A Guest Music Thread [Joe Mannix]

What do you think of when you hear "bootleg" in the context of music? I usually think of cassette tapes with hand-scrawled labels or CD-Rs that will rot unless quickly backed up. I might even think of "a bunch of MP3s someone recorded at a show.' What I didn't think of until recently, though, was "professional-looking, commercially-pressed CD with liner notes and label information."

I have been sanitizing and updating my digital music library and stumbled across an album that I just couldn't find anywhere. It wasn't on the big metadata services and when I searched for less-well-known track names, various search engine AIs responded along the lines of "that artist never did a song by that name, but these other artists did." Yet I had the CD in my hands. It was professionally manufactured, not a CD-R. It was a mainstream artist, not an unknown independent. It had a record label and a catalogue number printed on the liner notes. No barcode, but that isn't too weird.

So I looked up the catalogue number and still got nothing. Going for broke, I just looked up the record label, hoping I could find some reference based on the label. I finally got a legitimate hit. It wasn't a label, it was a pseudo-label - a European company that produced and distributed bootlegs. It was referenced as a "bootleg label," and that's all they did. They did it very professionally, but the reason I could find nothing about this album on the internet is that the album doesn't technically exist. It is a pirate album.

I have some bootlegs in my collection and I know what they are, but this was a first for me! I don't think "serious, professional product" when I think "bootleg." Expectations status: subverted.

Do you have any bootlegs in your collection? How's the production value, both of the physical medium and the recording?

NOTE: As always, the intro is just a conversation starter if needed. You're welcome to go off-topic, just please keep it to the world of music!

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Exceptional Live Performances
KT Tunstall is very good at using a loop/effects pedal when she needs to. Shortly after her big hit "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree," she did a performance of the song for Rolling Stone (remember when they sometimes covered music?). Just her. She spends about 45 seconds recording loops and setting up her effects pedals for the non-guitar sounds - tambourine, percussion (after a fashion), non-lyric vocalizations, etc. - to build the soundstage for the song. Then she goes to work with guitar and voice to perform it, manipulating the effects pedals as needed to bring in the other sounds. It sure doesn't sound like the album version, but she uses effects pedals to an unusual degree to pull it off.

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Great Covers
When she isn't being deliberately inscrutable, Fiona Apple can really belt it out and she has an incredible, bluesy voice. She did a cover of the Beatles classic "Across the Universe" for the 1998 movie Pleasantville. It's very different from the original and I think Fiona Apple's sultry voice is particularly suited to it.

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~~Cool~~ Deliberately Pointless Music Videos
Following the release of 1990's Bossanova, the song "Velouria" became an unexpected hit and the band was invited to perform on the BBC's Top of the Pops program. They hit a snag, however, in that the song had no music video and Top of the Pops was open only to singles with music videos. To satisfy the requirement, the band threw together a cheap, pointless music video consisting of a single shot lasting about 20 seconds, slowed down (poorly) until it was the duration of the song. They didn't make it to the show while "Velouria" was still on the charts, but they did end up making perhaps the worst music video of all time as a means to an end.

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Arbitrary picks from my collection
In no particular order and no implications of quality, here are four songs I've heard reccently.

Andrew WK - She is Beautiful
It's hard to believe that he's a classically-trained pianist since childhood, because he mostly makes simple party rock.

The Back Keys - Little Black Submarines
This is one of their tracks where they really don't sound bigger than they are. They're a duo, and this song sounds like it. Not a bad thing in the slightest.

Band of Skulls - The Devil Takes Care of His Own
Simple rock and roll from the UK. Unusually, it's from this century.

Scylla - Afterglow
After Curve broke up for the first time, Toni Halliday and other musicians formed Scylla, toured a bit in the UK and recorded a demo. It was never released, but thrived as a bootleg. Scylla even made its way into some movie soundtracks despite having never had a formal album release.

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Have a great rest of your weekend!

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 07:30 PM

Comments

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1 Lileks did something on the diner podcast several times where he looked at some private or public access stuff. Mostly horrible.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:34 PM (zZu0s)

2 Old bootlegs are being cleaned up with modern IT (not necessarily AI but including that) and the stuff we're now able to access is a music historian's dream. For instance, really old Judas Priest, esp. live stuff before they released their first album, is super neat to hear (though not remotely commercially viable).

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 26, 2025 07:35 PM (KAi1n)

3 Old bootlegs are being cleaned up with modern IT (not necessarily AI but including that) and the stuff we're now able to access is a music historian's dream. For instance, really old Judas Priest, esp. live stuff before they released their first album, is super neat to hear (though not remotely commercially viable).
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 26, 2025 07:35 PM (KAi1n)
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The Achilles' Heel of the bootleg - that they are invariably recorded from the crowd somewhere, or from up in the rafters - is *begging* for a high-tech cleanup. Real live albums get to tap the sound board, bootlegs are (in my experience) universally muddy. That's too bad because a lot of bootlegs are from seriously good shows.

What you describe might be something kinda good to come out of this high-tech dystopia...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:38 PM (C19Uv)

4 First?

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 07:38 PM (xcIvR)

5 Oh gads, a music thread. This is gonna be worse than a TJM movie thread.

Svengoolie can’t get here fast enough.

Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:39 PM (77rzZ)

6 Amazed that I read the content - and there are only 2 comments up! I coulda been a contenda!

Posted by: Stella, NO! at July 26, 2025 07:39 PM (NcvvS)

7 Lichtenstein was mark of a quality bootleg

Posted by: Accomack at July 26, 2025 07:40 PM (JKkdu)

8 Bootleg jumped out in my face, and my mind took a totally different heading.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2025 07:40 PM (LHPAg)

9 I hear “bootleg” and immediately think of the Dead.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (mT+6a)

10 Lichtenstein was mark of a quality bootleg
Posted by: Accomack at July 26, 2025 07:40 PM (JKkdu)
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Heh. Mine wasn't from there, but in the neighborhood.

Or perhaps "neighbourhood," for our Euro-pirate friends...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (C19Uv)

11 Music related. I had Huey Lewis 'Do you believe in love' stuck in my head after waking up a couple days ago. I looked him up today and saw that he R retired evidently in 2018 because he was losing his hearing. Which seems too bad.

Plus, you think about his voice (small range) and non pop kind of look (some of the backup singing seemed synthesized and you know he would probably not make it big these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (zZu0s)

12 I hear “bootleg” and immediately think of the Dead.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (mT+6a)
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Ah, yes. The "jam bands" are all hip-deep in bootlegs. I don't see the appeal of jam bands and never have, but I do understand the point that every show is very different and some might be downright incredible - but only bootlegs exist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:43 PM (C19Uv)

13 I wonder what the policy is on drones at concerts? You might be able to get good live recordings. Hell, the bands themselves might do it if they are not lip syncing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:43 PM (zZu0s)

14 Hm. Closest I have on bootlegs are tapes of the first two albums from Warlock. A buddy happened to have the disks which were very tough to get in the US unless I wanted to spend close to $100 at Tower Records (Look it up kids.).

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 07:44 PM (7xrfc)

15 I was in the Navy in the early 70's. We went to Taiwan and visited shops that specialized in bootleg music and books. The LPs they sold (for 50 cents) were out an out copies of current releases but pressed on cheap vinyl. We copied them to tape before they wore out. The quality was OK until they did wear out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (63Dwl)

16 but I do understand the point that every show is very different and some might be downright incredible - but only bootlegs exist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:43 PM (C19Uv)

It's jazz bs. I get it. Great for eating to or having a conversation with it in the background.

But for music, I'll admit to being a bit nazi. We must have structure! We must have order!

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (zZu0s)

17 Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

It’s always these damn hippies.

Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (77rzZ)

18 I have a couple of Widespread Panic bootlegs. Had a friend who knew the band and was allowed to plug in to the board when they were near here live. He was trying to get me into them but I just couldn't. 100x's worse than the dead. It just pointlessly goes on and on and on and....
I can hardly tell where one song stops and the next starts.

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (xcIvR)

19 Plus, you think about his voice (small range) and non pop kind of look (some of the backup singing seemed synthesized and you know he would probably not make it big these days.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (zZu0s)
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No, probably not. But maybe could find some small-scale fame (survival, at least) on the internet.

After the halcyon days of the 1990s, things sort of reverted to the mean and then amplified. There was a lot of dreck in the 90s, but the combination of collapsing costs and still relatively controlled distribution made for the same old semi-closed shop the music business had always been, but with production costs so low that virtually everyone got a crack at it. The labels went nuts signing acts and there was just a *ton* of stuff produced and distributed.

Then Napster demonstrated how to collapse the costs of distribution, too - to the point that anyone could and did do it, at costs approaching zero - and put an end to that brief moment in time...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:46 PM (C19Uv)

20 I remember back when Metallica told their fans to tape the shows and share them with friends because that is how they got new fans.

Then Napster did the same thing but better and Metallica suddenly started calling their fans thieves.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 07:46 PM (7xrfc)

21 12 I hear “bootleg” and immediately think of the Dead.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (mT+6a)
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Ah, yes. The "jam bands" are all hip-deep in bootlegs. I don't see the appeal of jam bands and never have, but I do understand the point that every show is very different and some might be downright incredible - but only bootlegs exist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July

I’ve only been to five shows. All very different. All in the late 80s. Dylan and The Dead in Eugene, OR was by far the best. There’s quite a few bootlegs out there for that one.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:47 PM (mT+6a)

22 Does taping WBCN's broadcast from Boston Garden of the Dead concerts on reel to reel tape count as bootlegging.
At least a couple of hours long concerts uninterrupted, quite the event for BCN if ircc.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 26, 2025 07:47 PM (n4GiU)

23 I’ve been listening to The Best of Talking Heads today . I can’t tell you why I like them so much .

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 07:48 PM (VofaG)

24 Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

It’s always these damn hippies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (77rzZ)
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I can do orchestra for a future music thread. I didn't know there'd be any interest in it, since music threads are usually a bit more casual and modern. But noted. I can certainly do that. I have a pretty decent orchestral library, too . If you happen to like the variety from Russia and Eastern Europe, anyway.

But what would old timey orchestral bootlegging be? I imagine "hastily copied sheet music on cheap paper, stuffed into leggings after the show."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:48 PM (C19Uv)

25 Bulg

Take a break. You’re being an asshole.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:49 PM (mT+6a)

26 Limey tranny plays hurdy-gurdy:
youtube.com/watch?v=Sy3sRKEXW4E

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 07:50 PM (hNDvI)

27 >>What do you think of when you hear "bootleg"

The Dead, of course.

The Dead not only allowed taping their shows, they encouraged it. They let people plug into their sound board and spread the music. I had a fraternity brother whose older brother, a very successful white shoe lawyer, used much of his ill gotten gains following the Dead around the country and acquiring a huge library of bootlegs that he would trade back an forth with his younger brother.

They got almost zero radio time. Live bootlegs is how they became one of the highest grossing tour bands in history. Their live shows were sometimes great, sometimes a trainwreck. And sometimes spectacular.

There is, and sadly won't be, nothing like a Grateful Dead concert.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 07:50 PM (viF8m)

28 Interesting music choices. All good in their own way, but not my bag.
The first selection, showing the pedal recording and mixing was fascinating. I had no idea how it all worked.
I knew of such a thing, but always categorized it as “canned music”. Didn’t know how it was done.

ZZ Top was the top group who I always attributed “canned music” to.

Tons of sound, and excellent at that, but far more than 3 dudes could crank out without a little assistance, ie, “canned music”.

Am I wrong?

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 07:51 PM (7hdjp)

29 hy don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

It’s always these damn hippies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (77rzZ)

It’s in my random play rotation on my IPhone . I have The 50 Most Essential Pieces of Classical Music album downloaded.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 07:51 PM (VofaG)

30 I’ve only been to five shows. All very different. All in the late 80s. Dylan and The Dead in Eugene, OR was by far the best. There’s quite a few bootlegs out there for that one.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:47 PM (mT+6a)

Those shows were actually a big part of Eugene's economy. I met a couple up there who made most of their years money on those shows selling hotdogs.

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 07:52 PM (xcIvR)

31 I’ve been listening to The Best of Talking Heads today . I can’t tell you why I like them so much .
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 07:48 PM (VofaG)
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David Byrne was very talented and had quite a range. But I've just never been a fan. The Talking Heads just never did it for me.

But speaking of odd moments in time (if we were), when Microsoft was an unstoppable force during the rise of the Internet, they shipped a copy of David Byrne's "Like Humans Do" with Windows Media Player. Everyone with Windows XP had a copy of that song whether they knew it or not.
https://youtu.be/xMeivIkwf_I?list=RDxMeivIkwf_I

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:52 PM (C19Uv)

32 23 I’ve been listening to The Best of Talking Heads today . I can’t tell you why I like them so much .
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 07:48 PM (VofaG)
Ever been tested for Asperger?

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2025 07:52 PM (LHPAg)

33 Music?

This music video is of the VTueber Ironmouse*. She is the one with the immune disease that destroyed her chances of being an opera singer. The same Ironmouse that suffered a lung infection that well nigh destroyed her lower range such that she has to talk in a very high pitched voice.

This is what Ironmouse is still capable of despite her illness and setbacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOS-e2d-cM

*This is the person that VShojo embezzled more than $500,000 in charity donations from in a futile attempt to stay financially solvent.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 26, 2025 07:53 PM (wOq++)

34 Been listening to a variety of stuff up here in Amish Country. Michael Stanley, Zac Brown, .38 Special. Mostly I channel surf the local radio stations. Y103 in Youngstown is a decent classic rock station. WDVE in Pittsburgh is ok too. Grew up listening to 'DVE. Head back to Babylon DC tomorrow. I'll listen to my flash drive mix 'tape'.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 26, 2025 07:53 PM (uGaBv)

35 Am I wrong?
Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 07:51 PM (7hdjp)

Yes.

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 07:54 PM (xcIvR)

36 The first selection, showing the pedal recording and mixing was fascinating. I had no idea how it all worked.
I knew of such a thing, but always categorized it as “canned music”. Didn’t know how it was done. ...
Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 07:51 PM (7hdjp)
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Effects and loop pedals (and the associated samplers) can be the modern version of the "one man band."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:54 PM (C19Uv)

37 No wonder KT Tunstall sucks.

I’m going to hear that stupid song tonight at work, too.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 07:54 PM (vm8sq)

38 Hmmm.

I would think classical is almost all, 'covers' i guess. A particular arrangement of a piece, sure but also by specific artists or orchestras. Piano pieces are a good example.

There would not be a recording bootleg sure, but it would be someone talking about a particular artist doing this or that composers piece and it being wonderful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)

39 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:52 PM (C19Uv)

Now you’ve reminded I have never been able to delete the stupid U2 album apple automatically downloaded on my phone. I thought I had deleted it one but it magically appeared again,

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 07:56 PM (VofaG)

40
Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

__________

No interest. The nichiest of niches.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 26, 2025 07:57 PM (HZi96)

41 >>I’ve been listening to The Best of Talking Heads today . I can’t tell you why I like them so much .

Because they are a Rhode Island formed band.

There is water at the bottom of the ocean.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 07:57 PM (viF8m)

42 Metallica almost seems to be a study in what happens when you have a point, but you become such an asshole about it and make such a scene that you cannot take it back. Or even walk it back just a little.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

43 25 Wouldn’t be the first time, Nurse.

Romantic music is my era. Yes, I have stated my general dislike of Bach, and the Baroque Era in general, with some exceptions. But I also dislike most of rock, again, with exceptions. The infatuation with the guitar, Spanish guitar excepted, escapes me. I want orchestral music: Stringe, brass, percussion, woodwinds, the whole works.

And give me a singable melody while you’re at it.

Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:59 PM (77rzZ)

44 I would think classical is almost all, 'covers' i guess. A particular arrangement of a piece, sure but also by specific artists or orchestras. Piano pieces are a good example. ...
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)
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Oh yes. The difference between one interpretation and another can be wild.

For example, Tchaikovsky's violin concerto. It was panned in its own time (to the point that, IIRC, he never composed specifically for violin again), but found popularity later. I like it a lot, but one particular version of it is an all-time favorite piece of mine. That work in particular seems highly variable and there are versions of it out there I just plain don't like.

But the version performed by the David Oistrakh and conducted by Franz Konwitschny in Dresden, 1954 is the hands-down greatest interpretation of it and in my opinion, all others pale in comparison.
https://youtu.be/1stifHfvgZ0?list=RD1stifHfvgZ0

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:00 PM (C19Uv)

45 Fiona Apple … nah. Never understood her appeal, other than she came at a time of some truly odious music that made mediocre sound good. Would bang, though. Once. She’s a nutter.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:00 PM (aeiyZ)

46 Tina Weymouth, the world's lamest bassist, lucked out bigly when she wound up with Byrne.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:01 PM (hNDvI)

47 Metallica almost seems to be a study in what happens when you have a point, but you become such an asshole about it and make such a scene that you cannot take it back. Or even walk it back just a little.

That makes a lot of sense. They were definitely pioneers in thrash metal.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 08:01 PM (7xrfc)

48 17 Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

It’s always these damn hippies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM (

Give me Mozart and Stravinsky.

Damn. Thinking about it, I haven’t been to a symphonic performance since I went to see the Houston Symphony five years ago.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:02 PM (vm8sq)

49 45 Fiona Apple … nah. Never understood her appeal, other than she came at a time of some truly odious music that made mediocre sound good. Would bang, though. Once. She’s a nutter.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:00 PM (aeiyZ)

She was interesting when she first came out. Afterwards, not so much.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:03 PM (vm8sq)

50 Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music.?

There’s some I like, especially Holiday selections, but have an affinity to Big Band.
Have the Glen Miller “best of” on my iPod rotation.
It’s a nice injection of nostalgia during a random playlist of 80s rock.

I may be a little older than 29…

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 08:03 PM (7hdjp)

51 My father had quite the variety of albums and he especially liked playing certain classical pieces turned up to eleven . Ride of the Valkyrie, William Tell Overture and 1812 Overture are engraved in my brain. Oh and The Flight of the Bumblebee

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (VofaG)

52 Tina Weymouth, the world's lamest bassist, lucked out bigly when she wound up with Byrne.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:01 PM (hNDvI)
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Damn, gp. When you swing, you cut like a hammer!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (C19Uv)

53 Bootleg >>> Buttigieg

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (aeiyZ)

54 If there is Scylla here, where is Charbydis?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (vm8sq)

55 "Bootleg" by Creedence Clearwater Revival

from their 2nd album Bayou County

https://youtu.be/L7mmngymq_c

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (AOsQT)

56 That stuff like, sucks.

Posted by: Butthead at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (/lMeC)

57 "Metallica almost seems to be a study in what happens when you have a point, but you become such an asshole about it and make such a scene that you cannot take it back."

The documentary "Some Kind of Monster" reveals all.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:05 PM (hNDvI)

58 >>Give me Mozart and Stravinsky.

Where do you think the damn hippies came from?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:05 PM (viF8m)

59 Country

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2025 08:06 PM (AOsQT)

60 There’s some I like, especially Holiday selections, but have an affinity to Big Band.
Have the Glen Miller “best of” on my iPod rotation.
It’s a nice injection of nostalgia during a random playlist of 80s rock.

I may be a little older than 29…
Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 08:03 PM (7hdjp)

Like clockwork, I would here “In The Mood” by Glenn Miller at 1130 CET on AFN Radio on Sundays as a bumper to some radio show.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:06 PM (vm8sq)

61 "Damn, gp. When you swing, you cut like a hammer!"

I'm just mad because she beat me at the audition. Sour grapes.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:06 PM (hNDvI)

62 What I noticed about Metallica was for the longest time none of the band members had visible tattoos.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:06 PM (VofaG)

63 58 >>Give me Mozart and Stravinsky.

Where do you think the damn hippies came from?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:05 PM (viF8m)

People forget that some of those classical composers back in the day could and would be the Kiss or Van Halen of the time.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:07 PM (vm8sq)

64 46 Tina Weymouth, the world's lamest bassist, lucked out bigly when she wound up with Byrne.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:01 PM (hNDvI)
True, but cheery enough in coveralls. Bouncy.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2025 08:07 PM (LHPAg)

65 Metallica almost seems to be a study in what happens when you have a point, but you become such an asshole about it and make such a scene that you cannot take it back."

The documentary "Some Kind of Monster" reveals all.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:05 PM (hNDvI)
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I was a casual Metallica fan until I saw that documentary. Were they trying to look like the most unsympathetic insufferable douchebags in all of music? I wanted to punch James and Lars in the fucking face.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:08 PM (aeiyZ)

66 If you just want to watch musical talent just watch Live from Daryl’s House. Even if I don’t like the guest singer it’s still an amazing showcase of talent. I’ve not seen one bad show.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:09 PM (VofaG)

67 Country
Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2025 08:06 PM (AOsQT)
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YUGE topic. What are you into?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:09 PM (C19Uv)

68 43 25 Wouldn’t be the first time, Nurse.

Romantic music is my era. Yes, I have stated my general dislike of Bach, and the Baroque Era in general, with some exceptions. But I also dislike most of rock, again, with exceptions. The infatuation with the guitar, Spanish guitar excepted, escapes me. I want orchestral music: Stringe, brass, percussion, woodwinds, the whole works.

And give me a singable melody while you’re at it.
Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:59 PM (77rzZ)

Bach does have the Brandenburg Concerto. Just sayin.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:09 PM (vm8sq)

69 "Would bang, though."

Why on earth do you think anyone cares?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 26, 2025 08:09 PM (89Sog)

70
18 Re Widespread panic. I saw them live in the late 90s and had the same impression. And I was appropriately fucked up for the show.

But I do like their studio stuff.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 26, 2025 08:10 PM (XvL8K)

71 If you just want to watch musical talent just watch Live from Daryl’s House. Even if I don’t like the guest singer it’s still an amazing showcase of talent. I’ve not seen one bad show.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:09 PM (VofaG)
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Darryl Hall knows how to retire. That series is definitely work checking out if you haven't. Amazing how tight they usually are, on a couple hours of setup of practice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:10 PM (C19Uv)

72 If you like KT Tunstall check out the episode of Daryll's House with her.

Posted by: davidt at July 26, 2025 08:10 PM (i0F8b)

73 12 I hear “bootleg” and immediately think of the Dead.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 07:41 PM (mT+6a)
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Ah, yes. The "jam bands" are all hip-deep in bootlegs. I don't see the appeal of jam bands and never have, but I do understand the point that every show is very different and some might be downright incredible - but only bootlegs exist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 07:43 PM (C19Uv)

Dick's Picks are very high-quality bootleg Dead albums. Great way to check them out.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 26, 2025 08:10 PM (uglmp)

74 If Beethoven was a metal bassist.
https://youtu.be/5EI0OP7o8cM

There you go. Classic music.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 08:11 PM (7xrfc)

75 65 It's a top of the line cinema verite documentary. If you liked that, you'll also love "Overnight," which shows Uber-Asshole Troy Duffy behind the curtains.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:12 PM (hNDvI)

76 Of course, I cannot go a music thread without mentioning a band I have been listening to since well before I was 29.

DREAM THEATER

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:12 PM (vm8sq)

77 Tunstall rig/gear rundown...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liOOHp61nZE

Posted by: davidt at July 26, 2025 08:12 PM (i0F8b)

78 Cow Demon, you are so right on. It’s obscure on one hand, but more mainstream than many realize.
Just like Herb Alpert. (Have that “best of” on my random rotation too)
He had game show theme music, and a lot more than people realize.
Obscure, but mainstream too.

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (7hdjp)

79 >>People forget that some of those classical composers back in the day could and would be the Kiss or Van Halen of the time.

Good music is a result of what came before.

And there is an enormous Tiger Shark being an asshole on Shark Week right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (viF8m)

80 Country
Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2025 08:06 PM (AOsQT)
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YUGE topic. What are you into?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:09 PM (C19Uv)

Yesterday I listened to Toby Kieth’s Greatests Hits.

He has a boatload . 35 songs on that album.

Dwight Yoakam’s Greatest Hits is one of my favorite and most played albums.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (VofaG)

81 Goodnight, All. This is not the thread for me.

Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (77rzZ)

82 65 I very much enjoyed the parts with Trujillo. He seems very cool.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (hNDvI)

83 Oh, and I should point out that Stravinsky would have surely appreciated Meshuggah.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (vm8sq)

84 >>> 40
Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

__________

No interest. The nichiest of niches.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 26, 2025 07:57 PM (HZi96)

"White Supremacy! REEEEE!!!" -- leftists

... hey, I wonder what would happen if you blasted some classical tunes at rioting klantifarts; would that drive them away faster than a fire hose spraying soapy water?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (ULPxl)

85 I was correcting my typo
I wrote 'county' for 'country' in the album title 'Bayou Country'

for the record, I was once a fan of country music, a long time ago, but the genre became a caricature of itself.

IMO of course

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2025 08:15 PM (AOsQT)

86 Speaking of classical…Death of Ase by Grieg is a great moody work. Obv no relation to this blog. I think.

https://youtu.be/2aKxf1h5r4g?si=0wOiDSmz6kJACCB6

I like almost all music genres, but big band swing, Latin jazz, and classical have to be at the top of my list. Rip Chuck Mangione. Will be sad when Arturo Sandoval passes (Amis Abuelos is killer).

Posted by: H at July 26, 2025 08:15 PM (2gjbv)

87 64 46 Tina Weymouth, the world's lamest bassist, lucked out bigly when she wound up with Byrne.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:01 PM (hNDvI)
True, but cheery enough in coveralls. Bouncy.
Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2025 08:07 PM (LHPAg)

Tina and Chris Frantz (her hubby) live in Westport CT, and have been interviewed or featured on at the Westport Library for years. For the 40th Anniversary of the movie Stop Making Sense, they showed up for a screening there.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 26, 2025 08:15 PM (uglmp)

88 There's a pianist named Mike Harrison who is a genius at rhythm. The attached is to his version of do nothing till you hear from me.

https://tinyurl.com/47pn2ns7

Posted by: oglebay at July 26, 2025 08:15 PM (MMp6W)

89 Dwight Yoakam’s Greatest Hits is one of my favorite and most played albums.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (VofaG)
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I really like Dwight Yoakum. "This Time" is a damn good album.

https://youtu.be/4APfLNbdao4?list=RD4APfLNbdao4

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:15 PM (C19Uv)

90 >>Dick's Picks are very high-quality bootleg Dead albums. Great way to check them out.

This man speaks truth.

But it's also kind of a location thing. You had to be there.

We had so much fun.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:16 PM (viF8m)

91 >>> 54 If there is Scylla here, where is Charbydis?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:04 PM (vm8sq)

*points*

There Charybdis.

Posted by: Obligatory at July 26, 2025 08:16 PM (ULPxl)

92 was a casual Metallica fan until I saw that documentary. Were they trying to look like the most unsympathetic insufferable douchebags in all of music? I wanted to punch James and Lars in the fucking face.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:08 PM (aeiyZ)

I loved their first four albums. The Black Album was, to me, an album I liked BUT left me with a “That’s it?” Feeling.

I have been done with them since “Load (of Shit)”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:16 PM (vm8sq)

93 Pull me under is epic.
Not sure of what else they did, but do you think of Ian Anderson upon the intro vocals. I do…

Posted by: Gunslinger at July 26, 2025 08:16 PM (7hdjp)

94 If you like KT Tunstall check out the episode of Daryll's House with her.
Posted by: davidt at July 26, 2025 08:10 PM (i0F8b)
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Their version of "Something To Talk About" is very good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:16 PM (C19Uv)

95 My brother went to Piss … err, I mean Phish show last night. He likes them. I don’t. I was dragged to a Piss show one time a while ago. It smelled like … piss. Crawling with dirty smelly hippies. Dirty smelly hippies selling dirty smelly food. I lasted about 10 mins then bolted the fuck outta there. I felt like a needed a shower and tetanus shot afterwards.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (aeiyZ)

96 for the record, I was once a fan of country music, a long time ago, but the genre became a caricature of itself.

IMO of course
Posted by: Don Black

Don't true students of the the genre claim there are 30-35 separate and distinct branches of 'country music'?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (6WCwE)

97 The Flaming Lips have trip-a-delic shows that seem suited to bootleg recordings. I bet every show is different. But I didn't have the presence of mind to record anything because Wayne Coyne was rolling over me in his crowd-surfing big bubble.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (kpS4V)

98 sorry but I have to say

these Red Sox uniforms are grotesque

Posted by: Don Black at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (AOsQT)

99 ... hey, I wonder what would happen if you blasted some classical tunes at rioting klantifarts; would that drive them away faster than a fire hose spraying soapy water?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (ULPxl)

They would be deeply confused.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (vm8sq)

100 I listen to classical most of the time, but don't have much to say about it. I liked baroque so much that I burned out on it by age 30. These days, I always try to seek out offbeat stuff I've never heard before, obscure composers, avant-garde stuff. I also listen to college performances and recitals on YT, and always leave them an encouraging comment and thumbs-up.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:18 PM (hNDvI)

101 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:10 PM (C19Uv)

And the guys should definitely check out the Grace Potter episode of Daryl's House.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:19 PM (VofaG)

102 @100 couldn't Handel any more? It baroque you?

Posted by: H at July 26, 2025 08:19 PM (2gjbv)

103 was a casual Metallica fan until I saw that documentary. Were they trying to look like the most unsympathetic insufferable douchebags in all of music? I wanted to punch James and Lars in the fucking face.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:08 PM (aeiyZ)

I loved their first four albums. The Black Album was, to me, an album I liked BUT left me with a “That’s it?” Feeling.

I have been done with them since “Load (of Shit)”.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:16 PM (vm8sq)
——

They put blood, piss, and semen on two of their album covers. What fucking fag perverts do that?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:19 PM (aeiyZ)

104 You must know that I'm dealing with the crazy Fleetwwod Mac lady on FB, the one that says Stevie Nicks joined the band 1977. Waiting to see if I trigger another rant.

I used to have two Who bootlegs. One was a live concert and I think the other was unreleased stuff. Quality was pretty good on them both. I just bought a CD of the Buckingham Nicks album. It's from Japan so I don't think it's considered a bootleg. I have two other CDs from Japan, one of Tommy and Motel Shot by Delaney and Bonnie.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2025 08:19 PM (TEi+a)

105 Damn. Thinking about it, I haven’t been to a symphonic performance since I went to see the Houston Symphony five years ago.
Posted by: Cow Demon

======
Whereas I catch live rock and roll, of various degrees of skill, four or five times a week.
This accounts for a lot of the disparity in the pop vs classical comment ratio.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 26, 2025 08:19 PM (n4GiU)

106 My brother went to Piss … err, I mean Phish show last night. He likes them. I don’t. I was dragged to a Piss show one time a while ago. It smelled like … piss. Crawling with dirty smelly hippies. Dirty smelly hippies selling dirty smelly food. I lasted about 10 mins then bolted the fuck outta there. I felt like a needed a shower and tetanus shot afterwards.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (aeiyZ)
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I really never understood the appeal of Phish. Also never been to one of their shows, but I just can't imagine I'd be into it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (C19Uv)

107 Jamming to Ozzy at work since he died. He will always be known for my first concert. 1 October 1992 at Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio. His first appearance in San Antonio since…The Incident.

Opened with Paranoid. Closed with Crazy Train. One hell of a show. Ozzy was a raving lunatic on stage.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (vm8sq)

108 "hey, I wonder what would happen if you blasted some classical tunes at rioting klantifarts; would that drive them away faster than a fire hose spraying soapy water?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (ULPxl)"

When a retail establishment has trouble with derelicts hanging out, playing classical clears em out like a stink bomb. I suggested that to my public library. They said "Why would we want to chase them away?"

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (hNDvI)

109 17 Why don’t any music threads ever discuss Classical music?

It’s always these damn hippies.
Posted by: Bulg at July 26, 2025 07:45 PM

Bulg- here's one you might like. Beautiful music for some pre- Sunday Morning Book Thread listening:

Laufey:
https://tinyurl.com/mte56638

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (rbKZ6)

110 for the record, I was once a fan of country music, a long time ago, but the genre became a caricature of itself.

IMO of course
Posted by: Don Black

Don't true students of the the genre claim there are 30-35 separate and distinct branches of 'country music'?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (6WCwE)

We got both kinds here, Country and Western, at Bob's Country Bunker.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 26, 2025 08:21 PM (S/Y4j)

111 I really never understood the appeal of Phish. Also never been to one of their shows, but I just can't imagine I'd be into it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (C19Uv)

The closest we get to the Dead in the modern day. A constantly touring jam band. I never cared for Phish or the Dead.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:21 PM (vm8sq)

112 That didn't sound like Bulg to me at all. Kinda testy.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:23 PM (hNDvI)

113 Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (rbKZ6)

He took his ball and went home.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:23 PM (VofaG)

114 There are a ton of Zappa bootlegs. He even released a series of bootlegs he copied called "Beat The Boots".

Posted by: fd at July 26, 2025 08:24 PM (vFG9F)

115 Jamming to Ozzy at work since he died. He will always be known for my first concert. 1 October 1992 at Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio. His first appearance in San Antonio since…The Incident. ...
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (vm8sq)
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Ozzy shows up in the workplace a lot.

My favorite example was at a deli in the northeast. Guy was making my sandwich and "Crazy Train" came on. He sang along with it, enthusiastically. All about "going off the rails on the gravy train."

His colleague corrected him but he was insistent. "No, dude, it's 'gravy train.' Everyone knows what the gravy train is, and nobody wants to fly off it. What the fuck's a 'crazy train?' That's nothin', man. It's stupid. You're fuckin' wrong."

They continued to argue about it. He eventually asked me to arbitrate. I told him, "sorry, man, but he's right. It's 'Crazy Train.'"

He looked heartbroken.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:24 PM (C19Uv)

116 I wanted to set up an ipod with dulcimer music. I had some on CDs, and wound up on Bandcamp. Got a bunch of Jerry Rockwell stuff and found, you guessed it, a Japanese dulcimer player that fell in love with Appalachian music. Does a fine job.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2025 08:24 PM (TEi+a)

117 Lars had a collection of paintings probably worth well over 100 million at one time.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:25 PM (VofaG)

118 In the car, I always listen to soothing stuff. As much as I also like rock and punk, I don't play anything in the car that angrys up the blood. Gotta stay calm while driving.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:25 PM (hNDvI)

119 My brother went to Piss … err, I mean Phish show last night. He likes them. I don’t. I was dragged to a Piss show one time a while ago. It smelled like … piss. Crawling with dirty smelly hippies. Dirty smelly hippies selling dirty smelly food. I lasted about 10 mins then bolted the fuck outta there. I felt like a needed a shower and tetanus shot afterwards.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:17 PM (aeiyZ)
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I really never understood the appeal of Phish. Also never been to one of their shows, but I just can't imagine I'd be into it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (C19Uv)
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You’d be into it if you like hanging out in smelly homeless encampments where everyone’s on drugs and nobody showers or uses deodorant. But this was years ago. My brother tells me the recent shows are probably 50% middle-aged affluent guys. They’re much cleaner … but still on heavy drugs. I still won’t go.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:25 PM (aeiyZ)

120 Thx Joe.
Saw the Pixies at the Chance in Poughkeepsie. One very loud but great show.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:25 PM (hIY2p)

121 For us anime fans in the 1990s who couldn't afford or couldn't find the original Japanese CD releases there was always Son May Records from Taiwan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 26, 2025 08:25 PM (wOq++)

122
From my own neck of the woods, there are:

1) Commercial recordings of live performances, which can be indistinguishable from studio recordings but more often are marred by audience noises and applause.

2) Specialty transfers from LP to CD, which are usually well done and a good way to get performances that have never been commercially re-released.

3) Airchecks of radio broadcasts. These are almost always awful, with compressed dynamics, mistakes galore and sounding like the performance took place at a tubercular clinic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (HZi96)

123 >>I really never understood the appeal of Phish. Also never been to one of their shows, but I just can't imagine I'd be into it.

Best thing about music is there is something for everyone.

And nobody should give a shit when others don't like their taste.

De gustibus non est disputandum.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (viF8m)

124 There are a ton of Zappa bootlegs. He even released a series of bootlegs he copied called "Beat The Boots".
Posted by: fd at July 26, 2025 08:24 PM (vFG9F)

I'm one that never got the Zappa 'genius'.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (VofaG)

125 Saw Black Sabbath at the Alamodome. Pantera opened. Fucking awesome.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (dR6yv)

126 117 In the documentary, he auctions off a Basquiat. $4M I think.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:27 PM (hNDvI)

127 Kinda partial to Klezmer.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM (LHPAg)

128 ... hey, I wonder what would happen if you blasted some classical tunes at rioting klantifarts; would that drive them away faster than a fire hose spraying soapy water?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
..............................
This one might.

youtu.be/VE03Lqm3nbI

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM (uGaBv)

129 I bought several Telemann CDs, my most recent classical purchase. And I got some Michelle Shocked but I don't really care for the albums. I do like her voice. And I got Revival by Gillian Welch.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM (TEi+a)

130 This week I bought a ticket for Alison Krauss & Union Station.

Also planning to see Dream Theater in a couple months.

Maybe going to a Steven Wilson show a week before the MoMe.

And if I can swing it will catch Collective Soul on their summer tour.

Been awhile since I've been to a concert. Making up for lost time.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM (DnMuk)

131 I'm an unashamed lover of pop music . I also like the hits and never bother with the b side or deep cuts. I'm a lazy music lover.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM (VofaG)

132 I like almost all music genres, but big band swing, Latin jazz, and classical have to be at the top of my list. Rip Chuck Mangione. Will be sad when Arturo Sandoval passes (Amis Abuelos is killer).
Posted by: H

Familiar with Airto ? He was trending toward great until he joined up with Flora Purim. His yoko, in my opinion.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 26, 2025 08:29 PM (n4GiU)

133 I've seen bands at strange venues.

Saw Def Lepard at DeZavala Walmart in SA.
Saw Jethro Tull at the Richmond Opera House.
Metallica at a horse track.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 26, 2025 08:29 PM (dR6yv)

134 Best thing about music is there is something for everyone.

And nobody should give a shit when others don't like their taste. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (viF8m)
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Yup.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:30 PM (C19Uv)

135 Saw Phish once in an odd double bill. The other band was the B-52s. It was at SPAC and there was two distinct fan bases. Not big on jam bands , unless it's the Allman Brothers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:30 PM (hIY2p)

136 115 Jamming to Ozzy at work since he died. He will always be known for my first concert. 1 October 1992 at Freeman Coliseum in San Antonio. His first appearance in San Antonio since…The Incident. ...
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:20 PM (vm8sq)
++++
Ozzy shows up in the workplace a lot.

My favorite example was at a deli in the northeast. Guy was making my sandwich and "Crazy Train" came on. He sang along with it, enthusiastically. All about "going off the rails on the gravy train."

His colleague corrected him but he was insistent. "No, dude, it's 'gravy train.' Everyone knows what the gravy train is, and nobody wants to fly off it. What the fuck's a 'crazy train?' That's nothin', man. It's stupid. You're fuckin' wrong."

They continued to argue about it. He eventually asked me to arbitrate. I told him, "sorry, man, but he's right. It's 'Crazy Train.'"

He looked heartbroken.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:24 PM (C19Uv)
—-

Umm … the song is called Crazy Train and that’s clearly what he’s saying. Well, my friend thought the ‘peaches and cream’ line from Pour Some Sugar was ‘you got the bitches, I got the weed.’

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:31 PM (aeiyZ)

137 130 This week I bought a ticket for Alison Krauss & Union Station.

Also planning to see Dream Theater in a couple months.

Maybe going to a Steven Wilson show a week before the MoMe.

And if I can swing it will catch Collective Soul on their summer tour.

Been awhile since I've been to a concert. Making up for lost time.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM (DnMuk)
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Cool!

I like Collective Soul. Didn't know they were touring. I'll see if they have a semi-local date. I would go see 'em again.

Do you like the Allison Kraus/Robert Plant collaborations? I think some of those tracks are really quite good.
https://youtu.be/L3Xi5gvZ7Kk?list=RDL3Xi5gvZ7Kk

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:32 PM (C19Uv)

138 When Napster came out, I already had to everything from my favorite bands, but I found if you typed in "live" or "demo"you got all kinds of interesting things you never knew existed. I have a lot of REM bootlegs from when they were playing in bars and I found bootlegs to concerts I'd been to in my youth - Queen on the Jazz tour, Wings over America opening night, Rolling Thunder Review, etc.

Posted by: Happy at July 26, 2025 08:32 PM (8wFql)

139 Umm … the song is called Crazy Train and that’s clearly what he’s saying. Well, my friend thought the ‘peaches and cream’ line from Pour Some Sugar was ‘you got the bitches, I got the weed.’
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:31 PM (aeiyZ)
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Eh. Close enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:33 PM (C19Uv)

140 I saw most of my concerts at the Lake Charles Civic Center. My father had a connection to get free tickets so saw a lot of acts that I would never have bought tickets for.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:34 PM (VofaG)

141 Armageddon is on . A dopey but entertaining movie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:34 PM (hIY2p)

142 "I'm one that never got the Zappa 'genius'.
Posted by: polynikes"

That's ok. I admit you have to be dedicated.

I like Klezmer too. Much better than rap.

Posted by: fd at July 26, 2025 08:35 PM (vFG9F)

143 Armageddon is on . A dopey but entertaining movie
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:34 PM (hIY2p)
++++
And Liv Tyler's dad did the music!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:35 PM (C19Uv)

144 Putting this on my roadtrip playlist. On continuous repeat.

https://youtu.be/t8dTnavUMnk

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:35 PM (DIweC)

145 Joe Mannix, I love the Plant & Krauss collaborations. They sound incredible together. I've probably missed my chance to see them live though.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2025 08:36 PM (DnMuk)

146 I love the B-52s. It was only in the last year I finally heard all of their albums.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:36 PM (hNDvI)

147 Armageddon is on . A dopey but entertaining movie
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:34 PM (hIY2p)
++++
And Liv Tyler's dad did the music!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:35 PM (C19Uv)

Better than their competitor Deep Impact.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:36 PM (VofaG)

148 'Armageddon is on . A dopey but entertaining movie'

'The Loudest Movie Ever Made!'

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:36 PM (hNDvI)

149 That same friend thought the chorus ‘cold gin time again’ was ‘Trojan time again’ (as in needing a condom for sex). The name of the song is Cold Gin, but it is Kiss ….

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:36 PM (aeiyZ)

150 A few weeks ago, a new video popped into my youtube feed; "Starlight Express" as sung by Sydnie Christmas. Back in the 90s, I listened to some of the songs from Starlight Express, just as part of some Adrew Llyod Webber compilation albums....I was on a big Phantom of the Opera kick, back then. And I still get back on it every now and then... SS sounded like a very silly story, with some very cheesy songs.

However, the way Sydnie Christmas sings the main theme...Its way more epic than anything I remember! I ended up buying the single.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 26, 2025 08:37 PM (Lhaco)

151 And those nasty print zine publishers wanted proper spelling, proper grammar, and even decent punctuation. Oh, the horror!!!
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 26, 2025 08:13 PM (sZyeE)

Ma capitaine, you have not yet enjoyed the prose architecture of Jim Theis' "Eye of Argon" (1970).

Posted by: gKWVE at July 26, 2025 08:37 PM (gKWVE)

152 "I'm one that never got the Zappa 'genius'."

I have yet to dig into his stuff. I've got a lot of it bookmarked.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:37 PM (hNDvI)

153 Todd Rundgren didn't do the music for Armageddon, oh wait

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:37 PM (hIY2p)

154 This singer has a somewhat similar vibe re: Scylla. I have a couple of her songs on my "new music" playlist.

Blu DeTiger:

tinyurl.com/Blu-DeTiger

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 08:38 PM (rbKZ6)

155 Todd Rundgren didn't do the music for Armageddon, oh wait
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 08:37 PM (hIY2p)
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*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:39 PM (C19Uv)

156 love the B-52s. It was only in the last year I finally heard all of their albums.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:36 PM (hNDvI)

If I didn't read the lyrics I would have never figured out ' Tin Roof. Rusted' .

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:39 PM (VofaG)

157 'Armageddon is on . A dopey but entertaining movie'

-------------------------------------

'The Wandering Earth' is basically the Chinese knock-off of a Jerry Bruckheimer/Michael Bay movie. And it's Wondrous.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:40 PM (DIweC)

158 My concert going days are over. My hearing is already bad. Got to preserve what I got.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 26, 2025 08:40 PM (uGaBv)

159 Putting this on my roadtrip playlist. On continuous repeat.

https://youtu.be/t8dTnavUMnk
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:35 PM (DIweC)
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Sounds like Japanese pseudo-singer who's a robot.

Something something Miksu, maybe?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:40 PM (C19Uv)

160 Great Covers

My current favorite, Within Temptation covering Passenger.

The whiny twee original that somehow has 3.8 billion views and seriously wtf is wrong with humanity:
https://youtu.be/RBumgq5yVrA

The improved version:
https://youtu.be/nmH2m4VUOJM

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 08:41 PM (DgGvY)

161 My concert going days are over. My hearing is already bad. Got to preserve what I got.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 26, 2025 08:40 PM (uGaBv)
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One of the things that sort of puts me off a lot of live shows, actually. I have pretty sensitive hearing and they're often just too loud. Not very manly, I know, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:41 PM (C19Uv)

162 Sounds like Japanese pseudo-singer who's a robot.
Something something Miksu, maybe?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Hatsune Miku.

A sort of vocal sampler/sequencer. A real woman sang all the Japanese syllables, and those are Miku's "voice."

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 08:42 PM (DgGvY)

163 Tomorrow I'll listen to Neil Diamonds Greatest Hits.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (VofaG)

164 This video:

Song: Meh.
Chorus: Kinda Catchy.
Visuals: I'll be in my bunk.

https://youtu.be/6f3RzjXPQwA

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (DIweC)

165
Don't true students of the the genre claim there are 30-35 separate and distinct branches of 'country music'?
Posted by: Tonypete

How many types of metal are there?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (63Dwl)

166 160 Great Covers

My current favorite, Within Temptation covering Passenger.

The whiny twee original that somehow has 3.8 billion views and seriously wtf is wrong with humanity:
https://youtu.be/RBumgq5yVrA

The improved version:
https://youtu.be/nmH2m4VUOJM
Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 08:41 PM (DgGvY)

The Within Temptation cover of Summertime Sadness was epic, and led me to the one Lana Del Rey song that I liked.

Ever single day during my first deployment I began the day with “Our Solemn Hour” in the office.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (vm8sq)

167 My current favorite, Within Temptation covering Passenger.

The whiny twee original that somehow has 3.8 billion views and seriously wtf is wrong with humanity:
https://youtu.be/RBumgq5yVrA

The improved version:
https://youtu.be/nmH2m4VUOJM
Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 08:41 PM (DgGvY)
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Add "Passenger" to the list of "I don't see the appeal." I sort of feel that way about the entire post-financial-crisis era. What wasn't slow, desultory and nearly monotonic was cheesy electronica. My brother refers to it as "recession music" and it seemed apt to me. It was a dark decade.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:44 PM (C19Uv)

168 I'm one that never got the Zappa 'genius'.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (VofaG)
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It's comments like this that immanentize Zappa Month.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 26, 2025 08:44 PM (kpS4V)

169 I wonder what a semi-violent protest would do if they started hearing The Imperial March, from Star Wars, from all around them. The other experiment that could be interesting would be to start playing dirges and songs like "Oh, Death," from speakers around the protest.

Which one would cause the largest percentage to scatter?

I suspect it's the latter. The thought of dying would discourage a rent-a-mob.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 26, 2025 08:44 PM (S/Y4j)

170 Another band related tangent. I used to have a copy of Rip Magazine that had an interview with Michael Monroe of Hanoi Rocks. Two things stood out in that interview with me.

1. When Vince Neil of Motley Crue was facing prison time for killing Razzle, the band actually reached out to Michael to see if he'd be interested in joining as their singer. "And that's how much they were standing by Vince."

2. Hanoi Rocks engaged in a lot of destructive behavior on tour. They played in Israel and they trashed the hotel room pretty badly. At one point, they thought it would be a good idea to throw a TV out the window. The cop whose car was the target was not amused. They were quickly booted out of the country.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 08:44 PM (7xrfc)

171 How many types of metal are there?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (63Dwl)

Hundreds.

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (xcIvR)

172 Hatsune Miku.

A sort of vocal sampler/sequencer. A real woman sang all the Japanese syllables, and those are Miku's "voice."
Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 08:42 PM (DgGvY)
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That's the one

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (C19Uv)

173 The whiny twee original that somehow has 3.8 billion views and seriously wtf is wrong with humanity:
https://youtu.be/RBumgq5yVrA

What I call “The Only Song”. I love WT but not even they can save it. Only if it were never recorded. Only if it were never thought of.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (vm8sq)

174 >>Not big on jam bands , unless it's the Allman Brothers

Whipping Post.

Look who is playing lead.

https://tinyurl.com/44jkxrzs

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (viF8m)

175 161 I damaged my hearing by listening to loud music at home with the big 1970s earmuff headphones.

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (hNDvI)

176 Thanks for the great music thread, Joe Mannix! This classical piano teacher and strings player enjoys eclectic music listening experiences -- variety is the spice of life!

Posted by: Official Delurker, let's hear it for Bach, Beethoven, Boston, and bluegrass at July 26, 2025 08:46 PM (Ylzzi)

177 170: did Hanoi Rocks ever tour with Saigon Kick?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:46 PM (vm8sq)

178 "How many types of metal are there?"

Including alloys? Amalgams?

Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:46 PM (hNDvI)

179 What I call “The Only Song”. I love WT but not even they can save it. Only if it were never recorded. Only if it were never thought of.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (vm8sq)
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I think I agree. Better than the "Passenger" original? Definitely.
Tolerable? Barely.

But I might check out their other stuff!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (C19Uv)

180 You're welcome to go off-topic, just please keep it to the world of music!

Queensrÿche

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (0sNs1)

181 https://youtu.be/6f3RzjXPQwA

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (DIweC)

Lady Gaga should sue her. But I guess imitation is the greatest compliment.

Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (VofaG)

182 I've heard that some bootleg labels look very professional. I had some, but they are in storage and I can't even remember what they were. Actually, I think they were concerts from the Doors (which the horde seems to dislike intensely, but I like them) and David Bowie.

Generally, bootlegs are concert recordings which can be dodgy in quality. I understand the appeal, as here is something by a favorite artist which no one else has. It's just not always a great listening experience. It's more a souvenir of a place you never were.

King Crimson have been quite generous recently in releasing lots of live recordings, particularly of the Bruford-Cross-Fripp-Wetton lineup (my fave).

Uh, yeah. Happy Saturday folks.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (CHHv1)

183 Add "Passenger" to the list of "I don't see the appeal." I sort of feel that way about the entire post-financial-crisis era. What wasn't slow, desultory and nearly monotonic was cheesy electronica. My brother refers to it as "recession music" and it seemed apt to me. It was a dark decade.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:44 PM (C19Uv)

What else are they known for except “The Only Song”?

Pop music died around 2000 or so.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:48 PM (vm8sq)

184 131 I'm an unashamed lover of pop music . I also like the hits and never bother with the b side or deep cuts. I'm a lazy music lover.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM

New or old? If you're looking for something new, here are a couple to check out:

Peach Tree Rascals
grentperez
COIN- these guys sound similar to Saint Motel
Fiji Blue
Hauskey

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 08:49 PM (rbKZ6)

185 Sounds like Japanese pseudo-singer who's a robot.
Something something Miksu, maybe?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Hatsune Miku.
Posted by: mikeski

She "toured" as a hologram, with a live band. She even played on Letterman's show in 2014.

https://youtu.be/V_Ifupd4gTA

"Like being on Willie Nelson's bus." -- Dave

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 08:49 PM (DgGvY)

186 180 You're welcome to go off-topic, just please keep it to the world of music!

Queensrÿche
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (0sNs1)

My copy of Q2K is on sale for the low, low price of 15 cents. Played all of twice.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:49 PM (vm8sq)

187 I damaged my hearing by listening to loud music at home with the big 1970s earmuff headphones.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (hNDvI)
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One of the benefits of being a Millennial (yes, yes, I'll vacate your lawn immediately) is that since I was a teenager, even cheap headphones have been decent. More money gets more better (to a point), but even run of the mill headphones were at least okay. Clarity even an acceptable volume.

I have a nice Hi-Fi and I sometimes still opt to use my good headphones instead. The improvement in headphones has been crazy and you don't *need* that kind of volume. It may be desirable, but it isn't necessary just to hear what's going on.

We are in a headphone golden age right now, and it's awesome. Plenty of shit out there, and plenty of overpriced crap, but also plenty of really good stuff.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:50 PM (C19Uv)

188 How many types of metal are there?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (63Dwl)

A bunch:
Classic heavy metal
thrash metal
speed metal
death metal
black metal
prog-metal
industrial
Nu-metal (mostly shite)

Hair metal is not a real thing. Poison is not metal. Skid Row wandered along the line of not metal and metal. Definitely the best of the "hair bands"

Posted by: Mike with a metal plate in muh head at July 26, 2025 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)

189 177: did Hanoi Rocks ever tour with Saigon Kick?

They insisted that Saigon Shakes and that killed any deal.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 08:50 PM (7xrfc)

190 How many types of metal are there?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (63Dwl)
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There are a dozen different kinds just of ‘death metal’

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:52 PM (aeiyZ)

191 Enjoying a nice glass of wine and listening to Dinah Washington.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 08:52 PM (HFcKg)

192 I'm an unashamed lover of pop music . I also like the hits and never bother with the b side or deep cuts. I'm a lazy music lover.
Posted by: polynikes at July 26, 2025 08:28 PM
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B-sides are usually B-sides for a reason.

But sometimes, there's a real gem hiding on the other side. In my experience, the more prolific a band is, the more likely it is that there's a decent B-Side to be found. It is, to a point, a numbers game - and an outfit with eight or ten or more albums is more likely to have a bunch of stuff on the cutting room floor (if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor) that's worth listening to than a band with a couple of records.

"Garbage" has a few worthwhile B-Sides.
https://youtu.be/2FiglIE2npg?list=RD2FiglIE2npg

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:53 PM (C19Uv)

193 But I might check out their other stuff!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (C19Uv)

If you check out anything else WT related, I heartily recommend “The Silent Force” from 2004. “Jillian” is on there. DO NOT TURN UP your volume in the first 32 seconds of that song. If you do, you will be more than a little surprised at 0:33.

I love their music and Sharon den Adel’s vocals are amazing but I’d start there. That should be enough to win you over,

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:53 PM (vm8sq)

194 Song: Meh.
Chorus: Kinda Catchy.
Visuals: I'll be in my bunk.
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Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (DIweC)
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K-pop girls are the only reason for K-pop to exist...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:54 PM (C19Uv)

195 How many types of metal are there?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM

Once, on a business trip to Florida, we had a free weekend, and the colleague I was with decided to road trip to Cape Canaveral. Our music tastes turned out to be decidedly different, so we agreed we'd each control the radio dial (yes, it was some years ago) for 30 minutes.

His two genres were rap and metal, neither of which I could stand. (To be fair, he could barely stand my choices.)

On the second or third of his 30 minute segments, I sarcastically muttered, "Good thing there's not a rap-metal fusion." "Oh, but there is!" he replied, and went wild searching the FM band for some.

Having finally found one, he cranked up the volume. Cranked. After 30 seconds, I reached over and turned the radio off.

We rode in radio silence for the remainder of the trip up and back.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 26, 2025 08:55 PM (0sNs1)

196 If you check out anything else WT related, I heartily recommend “The Silent Force” from 2004. “Jillian” is on there. DO NOT TURN UP your volume in the first 32 seconds of that song. If you do, you will be more than a little surprised at 0:33.

I love their music and Sharon den Adel’s vocals are amazing but I’d start there. That should be enough to win you over,
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:53 PM (vm8sq)
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I'll check it out!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:55 PM (C19Uv)

197 ... On the second or third of his 30 minute segments, I sarcastically muttered, "Good thing there's not a rap-metal fusion." "Oh, but there is!" he replied, and went wild searching the FM band for some. ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 26, 2025 08:55 PM (0sNs1)
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Heh

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:55 PM (C19Uv)

198 Late the thread but fwiw, a fair number of bands are releasing live versions as extras on their cds, etc. And some are using that same cleaning etc. technology to release older live albums.

The Who, if you buy many of their studio albums now come with bonus unreleased or live tracks that you could only previously get through bootlegs. Plus they issued Isle of Wight show from 1970 and Live at Hull from 1971.

Finally restored a dual boot on my web computer after Microsoft bollixed the Secure Boot shim months ago so posting in ye olde Windows 8.1. Use it to run a few programs that either are no more or mega bucks to update for marginal improvement.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2025 08:56 PM (ctrM5)

199 Hair metal is not a real thing. Poison is not metal. Skid Row wandered along the line of not metal and metal. Definitely the best of the "hair bands"
Posted by: Mike with a metal plate in muh head at July 26, 2025 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)

Hair metal and glam rock from the 1980s was “safe metal”. Heavy rock, but “safer” than the more “dangerous” music like Metallica, Slayer, or King Diamond or the like,

As a teenage boy, the fact that so many adults deemed bands like those last three “dangerous” drove me to them. Many a late night watching Headbanger’s Ball commenced, driving me into the dark embrace of heavy metal.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:57 PM (vm8sq)

200 160 Great Covers

My go to favorite cover

https://youtu.be/Qt6Lkgs0kiU

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:57 PM (DIweC)

201 Visuals: I'll be in my bunk.

Meh. But at least it's live, not anime.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 26, 2025 08:57 PM (n4GiU)

202 On the second or third of his 30 minute segments, I sarcastically muttered, "Good thing there's not a rap-metal fusion." "Oh, but there is!" he replied, and went wild searching the FM band for some.

Having finally found one, he cranked up the volume. Cranked. After 30 seconds, I reached over and turned the radio off.

We rode in radio silence for the remainder of the trip up and back.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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I've been trapped in a car with librarians listening to NPR. I'll take rap-metal over that.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 26, 2025 08:57 PM (DnMuk)

203 ... The Who, if you buy many of their studio albums now come with bonus unreleased or live tracks that you could only previously get through bootlegs. Plus they issued Isle of Wight show from 1970 and Live at Hull from 1971. ...
Posted by: whig at July 26, 2025 08:56 PM (ctrM5)
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That's cool. I'm all for it. AI might as well do *something* of value

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:57 PM (C19Uv)

204 But sometimes, there's a real gem hiding on the other side. In my experience, the more prolific a band is, the more likely it is that there's a decent B-Side to be found. It is, to a point, a numbers game - and an outfit with eight or ten or more albums is more likely to have a bunch of stuff on the cutting room floor (if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor) that's worth listening to than a band with a couple of records.

"Garbage" has a few worthwhile B-Sides.
https://youtu.be/2FiglIE2npg?list=RD2FiglIE2npg

Posted by: Joe Mannix
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True. Depends on the band and on a great album, most of the songs are at least good if not superb regardless of what was actually played on the radio.

Posted by: whig at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (ctrM5)

205 I'm working hard on left hand right hand independence today and my family is suffering, but they are suffering for art.

Posted by: oglebay at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (MMp6W)

206 Finally restored a dual boot on my web computer after Microsoft bollixed the Secure Boot shim months ago so posting in ye olde Windows 8.1. Use it to run a few programs that either are no more or mega bucks to update for marginal improvement.
Posted by: whig at July 26, 2025 08:56 PM (ctrM5)
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Come to meeeeeeeeee

Posted by: SaaS at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (C19Uv)

207 Loud music ….

I’ve been wearing earplugs at concerts and clubs since the get. I never got the appeal of really loud music. If the music is good, you don’t need to blast it for it to be good. If the music sucks, turning it up louder won’t make it good. I get the appeal of loud live music (deep house and techno) and the loud bass you can feel, especially if youre trippin, but you can get the body feel and still save your hearing with earplugs.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (aeiyZ)

208 Three year tour, late 80s, in the Philippines, with TDY's to Korea, Hong Kong, Thailand...yeah, I have a bootleg or two. Some are good, most were barely OK. But you did on occasion get to see a concert or movie before it was formally released.

Posted by: JML at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (hWYeE)

209 First and only bootleg I bought was Electrif Lycanthrope by Little Feat. I bought it at a legit music store and when I pointed out to the manager it was a bootleg, he sold it to me at a substantial discount. I loved it.

Posted by: Indiana Lurker at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (3ZVqj)

210 160 Great Covers

Also good
https://youtu.be/ilJmXx7RRL0

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (DIweC)

211 That is one big psycho shark.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:59 PM (viF8m)

212 True. Depends on the band and on a great album, most of the songs are at least good if not superb regardless of what was actually played on the radio.
Posted by: whig at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (ctrM5)
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Yup.

Kinda like "one-hit wonders." A lot of them are one-hit wonders for a *reason.*

But when I find one that actually had a solid album - or several of them - it's a pleasant surprise!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:59 PM (C19Uv)

213 Familiar with Airto ? He was trending toward great until he joined up with Flora Purim. His yoko, in my opinion.
Posted by: From about That Time

No but he looks cheeky. Little clips I watched he seems more like true jazz with a latin flavor…funky cutouts and async drums, very technical. What’s his best?

Posted by: H at July 26, 2025 09:00 PM (2gjbv)

214 I am truly interested in not what you listen to but why you listen to it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:01 PM (HFcKg)

215 A friend is a huge metal head. A few years back he went to Helsinki to catch some Finnish Death Metal band. Apparently it's a unique kind of death metal

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 09:02 PM (hIY2p)

216 The loudest band I ever heard live was Quiet Riot.

Hmmm...

Posted by: Official Delurker, my ears are still ringing at July 26, 2025 09:02 PM (Ylzzi)

217 KT does a bang up cover of The Jackson Five's: "I Want You Back" ...

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:02 PM (TTAGa)

218 87 I damaged my hearing by listening to loud music at home with the big 1970s earmuff headphones.
Posted by: gp at July 26, 2025 08:45 PM (hNDvI)
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One of the benefits of being a Millennial (yes, yes, I'll vacate your lawn immediately) is that since I was a teenager, even cheap headphones have been decent. More money gets more better (to a point), but even run of the mill headphones were at least okay. Clarity even an acceptable volume.

I have a nice Hi-Fi and I sometimes still opt to use my good headphones instead. The improvement in headphones has been crazy and you don't *need* that kind of volume. It may be desirable, but it isn't necessary just to hear what's going on.

We are in a headphone golden age right now, and it's awesome. Plenty of shit out there, and plenty of overpriced crap, but also plenty of really good stuff.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:50 PM (C19Uv)
—-

I got a pair of px8 Bluetooth to replace my old Sony wired that I only used on airplanes. Figured I would only use the px8 the same way. But no. The advances in headphone sound and ANC is amazing. You’d need $10k floor speakers to match the quality of the px8.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 09:02 PM (aeiyZ)

219 First and only bootleg I bought was Electrif Lycanthrope by Little Feat. I bought it at a legit music store and when I pointed out to the manager it was a bootleg, he sold it to me at a substantial discount. I loved it.
Posted by: Indiana Lurker at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM (3ZVqj)
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Nice!

The bootleg that led me down the rabbit hole I described above came from a truly excellent used record store. Gigantic selection, sort of organized (it was hypothetically organized, but people always put stuff back wherever and the staff didn't usually bother to fix things). Great store. I picked it up because the cover art was cool and I liked a couple of songs of theirs I'd heard before.

Now, many many years later, I find out it was a bootleg.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:03 PM (C19Uv)

220 I got a pair of px8 Bluetooth to replace my old Sony wired that I only used on airplanes. Figured I would only use the px8 the same way. But no. The advances in headphone sound and ANC is amazing. You’d need $10k floor speakers to match the quality of the px8.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 09:02 PM (aeiyZ)
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My trusty Audio Technica wired headphones are *awesome*. My Hi-Fi isn't *that* much, but it was well into the four figures even with shopping fairly carefully - and depending on the music, I sometimes prefer my ATs.

But what really blows me away is the advances in small stuff. In my adult life, earbuds have gone from "uncomfortable, ungainly, shitty-sounding crap" to "comfortable and damn good." I have a few pairs of "true wireless" earbuds and some are crazy good. Not in the same league as my ATs, but still damn good and what you can get for around a hundred bucks is unreal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:06 PM (C19Uv)

221 He was with Return to Forever, and had some solo releases at the same time. Free, and Virgin Land are good.
I liked his early stuff a lot, then lost track of him.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 26, 2025 09:07 PM (n4GiU)

222 B-sides are usually B-sides for a reason.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

In dome cases the B-sides are far more appealing to the band's die hard fans. My two favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs are B-sides: Aeroplane Flies High and Marquis in Spades.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:07 PM (oNVea)

223 >>I am truly interested in not what you listen to but why you listen to it.

When you come visit, I'll let you know.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 09:07 PM (viF8m)

224 It’s too bad David Lettwrman turned out to be such a douche.

But his show had some amazing bands on in the mid 80s through the late 90s.

Fun stuff.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:07 PM (mT+6a)

225 In dome cases the B-sides are far more appealing to the band's die hard fans. My two favorite Smashing Pumpkins songs are B-sides: Aeroplane Flies High and Marquis in Spades.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:07 PM (oNVea)
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Yeah, that's definitely another aspect to them. B-sides as "a present to our fans" are absolutely a thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:08 PM (C19Uv)

226 214 I am truly interested in not what you listen to but why you listen to it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:01 PM

Orchestration, particularly violins, always seems to draw me to a song. This guy, for instance, must have some classical training because most of his songs open with some really nice arranging. I don't really like his voice but the music is so pretty. He's very pop:

Rex Orange County-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr2CsEtXxmI

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:08 PM (rbKZ6)

227 Song: Meh.
Chorus: Kinda Catchy.
Visuals: I'll be in my bunk.
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Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 26, 2025 08:43 PM (DIweC)
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K-pop girls are the only reason for K-pop to exist...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 08:54 PM (C19Uv)
——

Could be a few trannies in that video … or in the band. The Blade loves Asian girls. But the chance that any rando Asian girl is really a tranny is probably 10x that of white or black girls.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (aeiyZ)

228 Out of here to catch some local live music. Says band comes on at 9, I'll get there 9:30, and probably still have a half hour to kill.
Gotta pace your beers carefully at my age.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (n4GiU)

229 Skid Row's Sebastian Black years were pretty good. I loved "18 and Life".

Posted by: gKWVE at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (gKWVE)

230 214 I am truly interested in not what you listen to but why you listen to it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:01 PM (HFcKg)
Wise beyond your years.

Posted by: Eromero at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (LHPAg)

231 It’s too bad David Lettwrman turned out to be such a douche.

But his show had some amazing bands on in the mid 80s through the late 90s.

Fun stuff.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:07 PM (mT+6a)
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"Live on Letterman" would make for one hell of a compilation album/DVD release. Some absolutely incredible stuff happened on Letterman.

And a ton of dreck, of course. But hey, bad with the good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (C19Uv)

232 Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen had a huge amount of bootlegs,

almost all of which are unlistenable.

They were a very fun bar band style group.

This album "We Got a Live One Here" was their last live hurrah....Grab a beer, some nachos and Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?

v=fTl_MmaO4l4&list=PLzrkUwDMBmUmGlZaT6cnZ

rGDHhTvuV241

Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (iJfKG)

233 Here's that KT Tunstall link

https://shorturl.at/R3KuU

I Want You Back

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:10 PM (TTAGa)

234 @214 music is moving and I find I prefer music that lifts my mood or at least reflects it. I avoid things with secular lyrics. For me, can’t be too careful about letting things that aren't good gain ground up there. As a teen listened to lots of main stream stuff and it did impact me negatively I think.

Posted by: H at July 26, 2025 09:10 PM (2gjbv)

235 Always loved that Fiona Apple version of Across the Universe. When I got bored of all the lullabies for the little hobbits, I looked up the lyrics and worked it into the rotation, LOL!

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:10 PM (oNVea)

236 Pete Townsend
https://tinyurl.com/bdhkze68

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:11 PM (mT+6a)

237 got a pair of px8 Bluetooth to replace my old Sony wired that I only used on airplanes. Figured I would only use the px8 the same way. But no. The advances in headphone sound and ANC is amazing. You’d need $10k floor speakers to match the quality of the px8.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 09:02 PM (aeiyZ)
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My trusty Audio Technica wired headphones are *awesome*. My Hi-Fi isn't *that* much, but it was well into the four figures even with shopping fairly carefully - and depending on the music, I sometimes prefer my ATs.

But what really blows me away is the advances in small stuff. In my adult life, earbuds have gone from "uncomfortable, ungainly, shitty-sounding crap" to "comfortable and damn good." I have a few pairs of "true wireless" earbuds and some are crazy good. Not in the same league as my ATs, but still damn good and what you can get for around a hundred bucks is unreal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:06 PM (C19Uv)
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I can’t wear earbuds. They always fall out of my ears. So it’s over the ear or nothing.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 09:11 PM (aeiyZ)

238 Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen had a huge amount of bootlegs,

almost all of which are unlistenable.

They were a very fun bar band style group. ...
Posted by: naturalfake at July 26, 2025 09:09 PM (iJfKG)
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I saw Commander Cody once. Was a bit disappointing. Definite bar band (I saw them in a bar), and if the bar had a good setup, it was probably good.

This bar did not have a good setup.

But I do have a Commander Cody-related problem. Every time I am in an airport, I can't help but think of "Back To Tennessee" - but if you hum it, you'll be tackled and arrested!
https://youtu.be/vXXRjPUvZnY?list=RDvXXRjPUvZnY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:12 PM (C19Uv)

239 214 I am truly interested in not what you listen to but why you listen to it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:01 PM (HFcKg)

I could crash server space on that topic. I alluded to a bit, up above, on why metal.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 09:12 PM (vm8sq)

240 If you check out anything else WT related, I heartily recommend “The Silent Force” from 2004. “Jillian” is on there. DO NOT TURN UP your volume in the first 32 seconds of that song. If you do, you will be more than a little surprised at 0:33.

I love their music and Sharon den Adel’s vocals are amazing but I’d start there. That should be enough to win you over,
Posted by: Cow Demon

I agree that their older stuff is better. Then again, I'm older stuff, too.

Mother Earth, The Silent Force, The Heart of Everything.

Their first one, Enter, was beauty-and-the-beast style with a growly male singer alongside Sharon. Still good, but maybe not what the average Moron is looking for. They bring in guest vocalists for those songs on tour, now.

And speaking of live recordings, their Black Symphony album/dvd is killer. Sharon isn't just a studio voice.

The Promise, which might be the hardest song she sings:
https://youtu.be/3oB2x5-44Zo?t=30

Somewhere, as a duet with Anneke from The Gathering:
https://youtu.be/ScjEJRIZGvg?t=30

For both, skip the first 30 seconds because it's just the bootlegger's "intro" thing.

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:13 PM (DgGvY)

241 I saw an opening band at the Paramount in Portland, name forgotten, that had their sound so loud that it was physically painful to be in the room with them. At the end of their set, pretty much everyone was jammed into the lobby. Only time I've seen that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 26, 2025 09:13 PM (TEi+a)

242 >>Loud music ….

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 08:58 PM

I do not like loud music. I went to a Van Halen concert in the late 70s and couldn't hear for days afterward.

Posted by: huerfano at July 26, 2025 09:13 PM (n2swS)

243 yeah, Garbage's "#1 Crush" started life as a B-side. A B-side that ended up being played all the time on the radio instead of whatever was supposed to be on the A-side.
Of course the best B side is Erasure's "When I Needed You", which backs up "The Circus" which is shit.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 26, 2025 09:14 PM (gKWVE)

244
"Live on Letterman" would make for one hell of a compilation album/DVD release. Some absolutely incredible stuff happened on Letterman.

And a ton of dreck, of course. But hey, bad with the good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Oh man! Absolutely!

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:14 PM (mT+6a)

245 /ship of fools I mean, which is also not great (but better than the circus)

Posted by: gKWVE at July 26, 2025 09:14 PM (gKWVE)

246 I can’t wear earbuds. They always fall out of my ears. So it’s over the ear or nothing.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 26, 2025 09:11 PM (aeiyZ)
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If you ever want to try again, consider trying memory foam tips.

Downsides: they never fit in the case, they're fairly expensive and they get gross so you'll go through them at a fair clip.
Upsides: very good noise isolation and a tight fit that doesn't result in fatigue or pain.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:14 PM (C19Uv)

247 With all appropriate humility and embarrassment, a cut from before my hands quit working. Just doing this for me. Y'all just go on to the next comment. Seriously.
__________
🎶 🎹 amateur hour again

Nothing Much
Admissions of limitations as a songsmith

Link in nic. Vid should play from 0:00 to 4:05.
A cut from Mindful Webworkshop #1, 2016 Aug 12

🌅

Posted by: mindful webworker - pass pass me by at July 26, 2025 09:14 PM (f+yIF)

248 I absolutely LOVED MTV unplugged.

I came to really enjoy some bands I would never have otherwise listened to.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:16 PM (mT+6a)

249 I absolutely LOVED MTV unplugged.

I came to really enjoy some bands I would never have otherwise listened to.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:16 PM (mT+6a)
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I always liked "120 minutes" more than "Unplugged," but saw a whole lot of both!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:17 PM (C19Uv)

250 With all appropriate humility and embarrassment, a cut from before my hands quit working. Just doing this for me. Y'all just go on to the next comment. Seriously. ...
Posted by: mindful webworker - pass pass me by at July 26, 2025 09:14 PM (f+yIF)
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Didn't.

Thanks for sharing your stuff!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:17 PM (C19Uv)

251 yeah, Garbage's "#1 Crush" started life as a B-side. A B-side that ended up being played all the time on the radio instead of whatever was supposed to be on the A-side.
Of course the best B side is Erasure's "When I Needed You", which backs up "The Circus" which is shit.
Posted by: gKWVE

Probably because of Leonard di Crapio's 90s Romeo and Juliet. And it's a damn good song.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:18 PM (oNVea)

252 In an ocean of dreams
I was sailing your sea
A stow away, a traveller
Following your stream
Your shore was my home
As the waves breaking
Fading love washed away in ...

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 26, 2025 09:18 PM (89Sog)

253 220-But what really blows me away is the advances in small stuff. In my adult life, earbuds have gone from "uncomfortable, ungainly, shitty-sounding crap" to "comfortable and damn good." I have a few pairs of "true wireless" earbuds and some are crazy good. Not in the same league as my ATs, but still damn good and what you can get for around a hundred bucks is unreal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:06 PM

I just got some of the new Apple Airpods that can also be used as hearing aids. The sound is amazing and you can take a hearing test right on your phone. Luckily, the test confirmed that I don't need the hearing aid feature but I might some day.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:18 PM (rbKZ6)

254 I listened to a bit of the Kt tunstall I want you back. Hmmm. This could be a case of my memory rejection but it lacks the purity of the Jackson 5 version.

I'll try again when I am home.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:19 PM (zZu0s)

255 I just got some of the new Apple Airpods that can also be used as hearing aids. The sound is amazing and you can take a hearing test right on your phone. Luckily, the test confirmed that I don't need the hearing aid feature but I might some day.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:18 PM (rbKZ6)
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I was impressed with Airpods when I tried them. But the cost, and the fact that you need an app to really use them properly turned me off. But they are quite good.

I think the sweet spot on wireless earbuds is around $100-$150. There is a ton of very good stuff in that range. But a no-name weird Asian brand is always a gamble. I've been burned a couple of times, which would certainly not be true of Apple or Samsung.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:20 PM (C19Uv)

256 I mean, it’s a common song but.

I was at the central tavern in Seattle when Kurt fell off the stage because he was too messed up
To play. From that to this

https://tinyurl.com/55ev3kwf

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:20 PM (mT+6a)

257 I absolutely LOVED MTV unplugged.

I came to really enjoy some bands I would never have otherwise listened to.
Posted by: nurse ratched

YES! Nirvana's In the Pines unplugged is chef's kiss.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:20 PM (oNVea)

258 YES! Nirvana's In the Pines unplugged is chef's kiss.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:20 PM (oNVea)
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Nirvana might have had the best set on "Unplugged."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:21 PM (C19Uv)

259 For and amazing live performance, it's hard to beat Dire Straits Alchemy concert version of Sultans of Swing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY

Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (ufuUR)

260 123 >>I really never understood the appeal of Phish. Also never been to one of their shows, but I just can't imagine I'd be into it.

Best thing about music is there is something for everyone.

And nobody should give a shit when others don't like their taste.

De gustibus non est disputandum.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (viF8m)

Gen Z translation: don't yuck my yum.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (uglmp)

261 255- I think the sweet spot on wireless earbuds is around $100-$150. There is a ton of very good stuff in that range. But a no-name weird Asian brand is always a gamble. I've been burned a couple of times, which would certainly not be true of Apple or Samsung.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:20 PM

I just got them on sale through Amazon for $149. I couldn't believe it.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (rbKZ6)

262 I've been to probably 80 concerts over the years. Have 200 odd Artillery rounds fired. Listen to music so loud you can feel the bass. Hardly ever use hearing protection and somehow my hearing is still almost perfect. Last test about a year ago was better than the one a year before that.

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (xcIvR)

263 Gen Z translation: don't yuck my yum.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (uglmp)
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"Don't yuck my yum" is really dumb. But I do get it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:23 PM (C19Uv)

264 I just got them on sale through Amazon for $149. I couldn't believe it.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (rbKZ6)
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yeah, at that price, just get 'em LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:24 PM (C19Uv)

265 Nirvana might have had the best set on "Unplugged."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

You'll get no argument from me in that. I love Nirvana anyway, but the album they released from Unplugged is the one I listen to most.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:24 PM (oNVea)

266 Nirvana, Eric Clapton and 10000 Maniacs were all great on Unplugged.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 09:24 PM (hIY2p)

267 I came to this thread to see a Joe Mannix Babe and I am disappoint.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:25 PM (JkO4W)

268 The only concert I had to take a break from was a King Crimson show in Baltimore.

A long time ago.

Drugs might have been involved. Maybe. Probably.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 26, 2025 09:26 PM (Q4IgG)

269 Mr. Dmlw! is bingeing Weird Al on youtube right now.

I wouldn't mind, really, except Mr. Dmlw! always has to pump up the volume. I don't like loud anymore.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 26, 2025 09:26 PM (h7ZuX)

270 If you check out anything else WT related, I heartily recommend “The Silent Force” from 2004. “Jillian” is on there. DO NOT TURN UP your volume in the first 32 seconds of that song. If you do, you will be more than a little surprised at 0:33.

I love their music and Sharon den Adel’s vocals are amazing but I’d start there. That should be enough to win you over,
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 26, 2025 08:53 PM (vm8sq)

2004? Has it really been that long? Wow... That album is probably when I discovered Within Temptation. I rather like them...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 26, 2025 09:27 PM (Lhaco)

271 King Crimson have been quite generous recently in releasing lots of live recordings, particularly of the Bruford-Cross-Fripp-Wetton lineup (my fave).

Uh, yeah. Happy Saturday folks.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 26, 2025 08:47 PM (CHHv1)

Favorite King Crimson album: Three of a Perfect Pair (Belew-Fripp-Levin-Bruford)

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 26, 2025 09:28 PM (uglmp)

272 >>I was impressed with Airpods when I tried them. But the cost, and the fact that you need an app to really use them properly turned me off. But they are quite good.

You really don't. I got a pair with credit card points. I had no intention of buying but they are pretty good, no app required.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 09:28 PM (viF8m)

273 254 I listened to a bit of the Kt tunstall I want you back. Hmmm. This could be a case of my memory rejection but it lacks the purity of the Jackson 5 version.

I'll try again when I am home.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:19 PM (zZu0s)

Her vocal styling is RAW, but to me, that's what made it an interesting interpretation.

Did not mean to imply it surpassed the original. Simply that it was so raw, that it stood out and, over time, has grown on me.

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:28 PM (TTAGa)

274 I came to this thread to see a Joe Mannix Babe and I am disappoint.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:25 PM (JkO4W)
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This brunette in blue jeans doesn't want to disappoint you:
http://tiny.cc/l4cq001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:29 PM (C19Uv)

275 266 Nirvana, Eric Clapton and 10000 Maniacs were all great on Unplugged.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 09:24 PM (hIY2p)

As was Neil Young.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:29 PM (mT+6a)

276 I am truly interested in not what you listen to but why you listen to it.
Posted by: Ben Had

The intellectual me wants complex music. Classical. Metal. Key changes. Odd time signatures. Lots of both in the same song.

https://youtu.be/eBpq7MctZcc?t=16

The emotional me just wants the vocalist to let it all hang out.

https://youtu.be/27M76-hbfW8

Those are generally not found in the same music. So bands like Within Temptation and Epica are my jam.

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:29 PM (DgGvY)

277 259 For and amazing live performance, it's hard to beat Dire Straits Alchemy concert version of Sultans of Swing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY
Posted by: MichiCanuck
...................................
Alchemy is my favorite live album. I can listen to 'Telegraph Road ' on a loop. Absolutely sublime.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 26, 2025 09:29 PM (uGaBv)

278 A big draw for me with a lot of music I love is the quality of the melody.

From the rock world: Journey's Open Arms.

From the Romantic period: Chopin's Nocturne, Op. 9, No. 1.

Baroque: Vivaldi's Winter, slow movement; Handel's Amen Chorus from Messiah.

Classical: Beethoven's 5th Symphony *last* movement! Absolutely triumphant!

I could go on and on, but my internet keeps going out. Will sign out now before it goes poof for good!

Happy music listening, Horde. :-)

Posted by: Official Delurker at July 26, 2025 09:30 PM (/JIaN)

279 I came to this thread to see a Joe Mannix Babe and I am disappoint.
Posted by: Cicero

This brunette in blue jeans doesn't want to disappoint you:
http://tiny.cc/l4cq001
Posted by: Joe Mannix

But can she sing?

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:31 PM (DgGvY)

280 I've got tons of boots from many bands in my collection — and was actually involved in some of them (for Tangerine Dream) in one fashion or another. It was a real gas for me when some of those concerts were released as official "bootlegs" and several of the made up song titles remains and are now technically "official." :-)

Posted by: goozer at July 26, 2025 09:31 PM (V1MWf)

281 For and amazing live performance, it's hard to beat Dire Straits Alchemy concert version of Sultans of Swing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY
Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 26, 2025 09:22 PM (ufuUR)
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Dig it, thanks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:32 PM (C19Uv)

282 Talk about unplugged bootlegs. Here’s Tom Petty

https://tinyurl.com/2y2y634f

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:32 PM (mT+6a)

283 But can she sing?
Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:31 PM (DgGvY)
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Uhhhh, sure.

I mean "yes." Definitely! She's a virtuosa!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:32 PM (C19Uv)

284 So years ago, I went to see Warlock when they were on the Triumph and Agony tour. After the show, a few of us waited by their bus to get autographs. Tommy Bolin (The guitarist) was funny as hell.

"Hey Tommy! Can you sign our flyers?"
"Fuck that. I got something better for you guys."

The man handed out promotional post cards. I still have mine to this day.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 26, 2025 09:32 PM (7xrfc)

285 I saw Eric Clapton live last summer at the Hollywood Bowl. It was very strange.

First, musically, Clapton was in top form. His voice and his playing were perfection. It was surprising given his advanced age.

Second, Clapton did absolutely nothing to connect to the audience. He was there for a payday, period. No banter, no interesting stories of the heyday of blues-based rock, nothing. A terse "thank you" and he launched into the next song. He bolted from the stage at the end of the set with no encore.

During the show he literally played in the dark. You could see where he was because his guitar was white.

It was awesome to hear some Clapton classics live but Clapton was there for the check and it showed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:33 PM (JkO4W)

286 Man, Mark Knoppfler is good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:33 PM (C19Uv)

287 ... The emotional me just wants the vocalist to let it all hang out.

https://youtu.be/27M76-hbfW8

Those are generally not found in the same music. So bands like Within Temptation and Epica are my jam.
Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:29 PM (DgGvY)

Try this:

https://shorturl.at/HRIM8

Kathy Mattea stepping into "Standing Knee Deep In A River"

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:33 PM (TTAGa)

288 ... Second, Clapton did absolutely nothing to connect to the audience. He was there for a payday, period. No banter, no interesting stories of the heyday of blues-based rock, nothing. A terse "thank you" and he launched into the next song. He bolted from the stage at the end of the set with no encore.

During the show he literally played in the dark. You could see where he was because his guitar was white.

It was awesome to hear some Clapton classics live but Clapton was there for the check and it showed.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:33 PM (JkO4W)
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Hmmm.

So it was a performance, but not a "show?" Perhaps there is a distinction.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:34 PM (C19Uv)

289 youtu.be/EX2n2ftbdZU

Dire Straits- Telegraph Road

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 26, 2025 09:34 PM (uGaBv)

290 Stevie Ray Vaughan on Unplugged is my favorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz5TfirVwxQ

Posted by: huerfano at July 26, 2025 09:35 PM (n2swS)

291 Etymotic earphones fit well and sound good.

https://etymotic.com/earphones/

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 26, 2025 09:35 PM (63Dwl)

292 286 Man, Mark Knoppfler is good.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:33 PM (C19Uv)

Truth.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 26, 2025 09:37 PM (h7ZuX)

293 My ex husband was a big King Crimson fan.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 26, 2025 09:37 PM (mT+6a)

294 Sitting in a small club in Monterey, CA listening to B.B. King with about 100 people was.... surreal.

He liked to tell stories between jams.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 26, 2025 09:38 PM (Q4IgG)

295 More music threads.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 09:39 PM (viF8m)

296 The unplugged stuff was always good because I the end, if the music and voice is good, you do not need all the 'plugged' shit.

Damn, bad example but there was a Sarah Maclachlan song from before sad puppies. Like EARLY 90s. Possession. On the album she had a pop version and a piano only version. The piano only version was far better.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:39 PM (zZu0s)

297 The unplugged stuff was always good because I the end, if the music and voice is good, you do not need all the 'plugged' shit.

Damn, bad example but there was a Sarah Maclachlan song from before sad puppies. Like EARLY 90s. Possession. On the album she had a pop version and a piano only version. The piano only version was far better.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:39 PM (zZu0s)
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Kinda like pizza.

Toppings are nice and can really make a pie better, but if the place can't do a plain cheese properly, then it's really just not that good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:40 PM (C19Uv)

298 Stevie Ray Vaughan doing Life by the Drop is classic

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 26, 2025 09:40 PM (hIY2p)

299 Not to piss in the punchbowl, but Clapton's unplugged work left me cold, especially the rendition of Layla ...

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (TTAGa)

300 nurse, my ex had no music in his soul.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (HFcKg)

301 This brunette in blue jeans doesn't want to disappoint you:
http://tiny.cc/l4cq001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:29 PM (C19Uv)

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Poor girl has to live in sparking structure. I would consider taking her in.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (hY4dx)

302 Not to piss in the punchbowl, but Clapton's unplugged work left me cold, especially the rendition of Layla ...
Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (TTAGa)
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I don't see how an acoustic "Layla" could work properly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (C19Uv)

303 Poor girl has to live in sparking structure. I would consider taking her in.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (hY4dx)
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Be careful. The structure might be sparking because she's a firebug...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:42 PM (C19Uv)

304 My ex husband was a big King Crimson fan.
Posted by: nurse ratched

They have some range. Helped by the fact that they've been four different bands (at least), with Robert Fripp being the only common member.

Version 1, 1969:
https://youtu.be/UlKrH07au6E

Version 4, 1995:
https://youtu.be/mJt0MNSDgdA

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:42 PM (DgGvY)

305 294 Sitting in a small club in Monterey, CA listening to B.B. King with about 100 people was.... surreal.

He liked to tell stories between jams.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 26, 2025 09:38 PM (Q4IgG)

Along those lines ...

David Bromberg was / is an outstanding story teller between songs ...

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:43 PM (TTAGa)

306 Metallica almost seems to be a study in what happens when you have a point, but you become such an asshole about it and make such a scene that you cannot take it back. Or even walk it back just a little.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

>>>

Bono of U2 doubles down.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 26, 2025 09:43 PM (/lPRQ)

307 Ref Bootleg.
A while back, I bought a few seasons of assorted animes.

Some were in gorgeous, colorful, durable packaging with the DVDs printed with neat graphics from the show.

Another one was in a cheap plastic box with a paper liner showing a poster and the DVDs loosely secured.

That last was a legit one. The others were bootleg.
(I didn't know they were bootleg when I bought them. Back then, the mysteries of EBay bootlegs unknown to me_

Posted by: comradearthur at July 26, 2025 09:44 PM (OdNzD)

308 300 nurse, my ex had no music in his soul.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (HFcKg)

I don't appear to have the best taste in men, but the men I've married both love music. Of all kinds. So, there's that.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 26, 2025 09:44 PM (h7ZuX)

309 >>> 306 Metallica almost seems to be a study in what happens when you have a point, but you become such an asshole about it and make such a scene that you cannot take it back. Or even walk it back just a little.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

>>>

Bono of U2 doubles down.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 26, 2025 09:43 PM (/lPRQ)

But not over a cliff.

Sad!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2025 09:44 PM (ULPxl)

310 I don't see how an acoustic "Layla" could work properly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (C19Uv)

Exactly.

It's just not the same song Vocally, Aurally, or in terms of Timing

Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:45 PM (TTAGa)

311 I don't appear to have the best taste in men, but the men I've married both love music. Of all kinds. So, there's that.

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Me too

Posted by: Mayor Chestfeeder at July 26, 2025 09:46 PM (hY4dx)

312 nurse, my ex had no music in his soul.
Posted by: Ben Had

Well that just sounds unbearable. What a hollow existence.

Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:46 PM (oNVea)

313 Didn't.
Thanks for sharing your stuff!
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Dang. Forgot how contrary Morons can be.

brunette in blue jeans

Thanks for sharing your stuff! 😆

Posted by: mindful webworker - once repaired a Wurlitzer at July 26, 2025 09:47 PM (f+yIF)

314 Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh
Posted by: She Hobbit

None at all, or she was just letting you know she was a rap fan?

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 09:47 PM (DgGvY)

315 Some were in gorgeous, colorful, durable packaging with the DVDs printed with neat graphics from the show.

Another one was in a cheap plastic box with a paper liner showing a poster and the DVDs loosely secured.

That last was a legit one. The others were bootleg.
(I didn't know they were bootleg when I bought them. Back then, the mysteries of EBay bootlegs unknown to me_
Posted by: comradearthur at July 26, 2025 09:44 PM (OdNzD)
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Heh. It's always odd when the pirate have more pride in their work than the legitimate operators. This happened in software a lot back when software piracy was rampant. The pirate groups would try to outdo each other in quality and branding. It became its own thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:47 PM (C19Uv)

316 She Hobbit, that is why there was an ex.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:48 PM (HFcKg)

317 Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh

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That's funny. Kind of like saying, I don't like food.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:48 PM (hY4dx)

318 272- You really don't. I got a pair with credit card points. I had no intention of buying but they are pretty good, no app required.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 09:28 PM

That's how I got my first pair. I lost one of them on a recent flight. I'll pay the new ones off with a points transfer as well.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:48 PM (rbKZ6)

319 Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:46 PM (oNVea)
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They exist. I'm related to some of them. I don't get it. I *can't* get it, I don't think. I get "there's music I don't like" and I get "man, I hate this music." I even get, "I only like music sometimes." But I don't get "music doesn't do anything for me."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:50 PM (C19Uv)

320 Open a bottle of wine, put in a CD and cook a lovely meal. Life doesn't get any better for me.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:51 PM (HFcKg)

321 Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:46 PM (oNVea)

I am old enough now to wonder whether I have any concept of what it's like in other people's head. To not know music, history, art. How shallow, narrow and barren a place it must be.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:51 PM (zZu0s)

322 133 I've seen bands at strange venues.

Saw Def Lepard at DeZavala Walmart in SA.
Saw Jethro Tull at the Richmond Opera House.
Metallica at a horse track.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 26, 2025 08:29 PM (dR6yv)

Did you see Metallica at Hawthorne in Stickney?

Posted by: Lars at July 26, 2025 09:51 PM (kJH1Z)

323 That's how I got my first pair. I lost one of them on a recent flight. I'll pay the new ones off with a points transfer as well.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 09:48 PM (rbKZ6)
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Oh man.

Was on a flight and the landing was *rough.* An earbud popped out. I was at the back of the plane, and I watched it bounce all the way up the aisle. I figured, "man, well, that's gone." I looked for it on they way out, and found it. Somehow. Caught it out of the corner of my eye, wedged under the wheel of a drink cart. Lost the tip, but the bud itself survived.

I still have them, and know that I used up 100% of my luck in recovering it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:52 PM (C19Uv)

324 >>Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh

Then you know who to avoid.

https://tinyurl.com/ypvebspx

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 09:52 PM (viF8m)

325 None at all, or she was just letting you know she was a rap fan?
Posted by: mikeski

Hahahaha, no she was a 50s-ish white woman 15 years ago. Doubt rap was in her repertoire, though I do enjoy some rap for the beat and visceralness.

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That's funny. Kind of like saying, I don't like food.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

That's kinda what I thought. Music is how I get deeper into moods, change my moods, connect with people. It just didn't compute.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:54 PM (oNVea)

326 Always been glad MiladyJo and I shared taste in music. Especially Beatles. She saw them once, live. Couldn't hear them, but did see them, from afar. Komisky Park, 1965.

Posted by: mindful webworker - happily at July 26, 2025 09:54 PM (f+yIF)

327 Oh, I need to find that music again and link it on a music thread. It was very surprising. It was for a Netflix anime. Dragon pri ce or something like that. I clicked on ewetub expecting so.ething twee and it was this rich, beautiful cello string piece.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:55 PM (zZu0s)

328 Saw the F-1 movie, pretty watchable if a little unbelievable. Would recommend it

Posted by: Skip at July 26, 2025 09:56 PM (+qU29)

329 312 nurse, my ex had no music in his soul.
Posted by: Ben Had

Well that just sounds unbearable. What a hollow existence.

Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:46 PM (oNVea)

The only thing that Nietzsche ever said that was worth a damn (and I bet he stole it): "Without music, life would be a mistake."

Posted by: goozer at July 26, 2025 09:56 PM (V1MWf)

330 Oh, I need to find that music again and link it on a music thread. It was very surprising. It was for a Netflix anime. Dragon pri ce or something like that. I clicked on ewetub expecting so.ething twee and it was this rich, beautiful cello string piece.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 26, 2025 09:55 PM (zZu0s)
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Anime surprised me. Sometimes, the music is taken *very* seriously. I'm not into Anime, but I have a couple of Anime soundtracks in my library. I find it weird how often inscrutable foreign cartoons (to me, anyway - I know Anime is big business with a major fan base, but I don't get it) have really serious, well-produced music.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:57 PM (C19Uv)

331 Joe Mannix, thank you for such a fun thread.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:58 PM (HFcKg)

332 326 Always been glad MiladyJo and I shared taste in music. Especially Beatles. She saw them once, live. Couldn't hear them, but did see them, from afar. Komisky Park, 1965.

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I was never a big Beatles fan but I ended up in Liverpool a few years ago. Seems that the Beatles drive the entire economy there today. I got a Beatles logo t-shirt at the Beatles museum, and I saw the actual Strawberry Fields.

I won't engrave it on my tombstone but it was fun.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 26, 2025 09:58 PM (hY4dx)

333 Joe Mannix, thank you for such a fun thread.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 26, 2025 09:58 PM (HFcKg)
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Thank you, and the other commenters! No point in writing it if nobody read it!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:59 PM (C19Uv)

334 Man. My younger grandson is getting REALLY good on drums.
He was over today bashing on my electric kit and I just stood there watching him going "damn." He just turned 5 and is better than I ever was. Just plays from his heart and to his own rhythm.
I gotta get a double bass pedal for that kit. He does it anyway with the high hat and the pedal.

And Dire Straits, Love Over Gold is easily in my top 10 albums, ever. Doing Telegraph right now. It's at the point where he left most of the lyrics to be written by some future generation.

Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 09:59 PM (xcIvR)

335 NOOD

ONT

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 26, 2025 10:00 PM (ULPxl)

336 Man. My younger grandson is getting REALLY good on drums.
He was over today bashing on my electric kit and I just stood there watching him going "damn." He just turned 5 and is better than I ever was. Just plays from his heart and to his own rhythm.
I gotta get a double bass pedal for that kit. He does it anyway with the high hat and the pedal. ...
Posted by: Reforger at July 26, 2025 09:59 PM (xcIvR)
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You get to encourage his talent *and* make his parents mad! A two-fer!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 10:00 PM (C19Uv)

337 The only bootleg I have is the extremely Rare Blade Runner Soundtrack - Esper Edition. Pretty much all the music in the film, some never released.

Posted by: Esperman at July 26, 2025 10:00 PM (lxE1b)

338 Music is how I get deeper into moods, change my moods,
Posted by: She Hobbit

I do the same.

Need more happy (despite the lyrics being the opposite):
https://youtu.be/n56SFvzmiYA

Need more sad (the "sad ending" to a concept album with 2 different endings):
https://youtu.be/yo7UXKKy4m0

Posted by: mikeski at July 26, 2025 10:01 PM (DgGvY)

339 >>"Without music, life would be a mistake."

Other than sex, which I am a big fan, there is nothing remotely like music.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 26, 2025 10:01 PM (viF8m)

340 ONT is up.

Thanks for a fun music thread, everyone. I usually jump at the chance to fill in for CBD. I rarely walk away from one without adding to my list of CDs to buy!

Have a great evening and Sunday!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 10:01 PM (C19Uv)

341 Metallica supports a foundation "All Within My Hands" that supports trades education, among other things for community support. Maybe they're aging into something resembling maturity?

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 26, 2025 10:03 PM (ky7/T)

342 323- Was on a flight and the landing was *rough.* An earbud popped out. I was at the back of the plane, and I watched it bounce all the way up the aisle. I figured, "man, well, that's gone." I looked for it on they way out, and found it. Somehow. Caught it out of the corner of my eye, wedged under the wheel of a drink cart. Lost the tip, but the bud itself survived.

I still have them, and know that I used up 100% of my luck in recovering it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 26, 2025 09:52 PM

I was in a window seat and mine dropped between the drink/tray console and the wall. I tried to get at it from every direction and couldn't even see it. When the flight attendant came along to ask me what I was looking for, she asked if a mechanic would be able to help. I laughed at that and told her he'd probably have to take the whole seat out!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 26, 2025 10:14 PM (rbKZ6)

343 A very special episode of What's Happening

Posted by: ... at July 26, 2025 10:17 PM (E0p3T)

344 302 Not to piss in the punchbowl, but Clapton's unplugged work left me cold, especially the rendition of Layla ...
Posted by: browndog earbuds in at July 26, 2025 09:41 PM (TTAGa)
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I don't see how an acoustic "Layla" could work properly.

Agree completely. It sucked.

Posted by: Happy at July 27, 2025 12:09 AM (8wFql)

345 I don't see how an acoustic "Layla" could work properly.

Agree completely. It sucked.
Posted by: Happy at July 27, 2025 12:09 AM (8wFql)

It has its uses. Like curing insomnia.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 27, 2025 12:31 AM (Pce4l)

346
Well that just sounds unbearable. What a hollow existence.

Once had a coworker tell me she didn't like music. I was speechless. smh
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 26, 2025 09:46 PM (oNVea)

My father had zero use for music and could not understand why everyone else in the family was all in on music.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 27, 2025 12:33 AM (Pce4l)

347 125 Saw Black Sabbath at the Alamodome. Pantera opened. Fucking awesome.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 26, 2025 08:26 PM (dR6yv)

I was there. Agreed!

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 27, 2025 02:15 AM (Pce4l)

348 Saw KT a few months ago when she opened for Roger Daltrey, she still does the looping thing.

Posted by: KM at July 27, 2025 02:26 AM (ES1Rb)

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