As Predicted, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass are Refusing to Allow People to Rebuild Their Houses in the Pallisades.<br>The Plan is to Starve Them Out and Offer Them Pennies on the Dollar for Their Property, to Build Low-Income Apartments.

As Predicted, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass are Refusing to Allow People to Rebuild Their Houses in the Pallisades.
The Plan is to Starve Them Out and Offer Them Pennies on the Dollar for Their Property, to Build Low-Income Apartments.

Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass promised Californians who lost their homes in their engineered firestorm that there would be reduced red-tape to allow reconstruction to begin within weeks.

More than six months later, not a single home has been rebuilt. In fact, not a single construction has even started.

People suspected that Newsom and Bass would not let this crisis go to waste and would seize people's property in order to build apartment buildings for the poor.

That's exactly what they're doing. They're refusing to grant permits to let people rebuild, so that their multimillion-dollar properties become effectively valueless.

Then they're going to offer peanuts to buy these distressed, deliberately-impoverished landowners out.

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BREAKING - The California Senate has passed SB 549, granting LA County authority to purchase fire‑destroyed lots for minimal cost and convert them into low‑income housing, directly contradicting Gavin Newsom's previous assurance to homeowners that such government‑driven property conversions wouldn't happen.

Beege Wellborne wrote about this last week.

Adam Carolla predicted this. (Video below the fold).

Beege Wellborne writes: "You knew he was right."

That sick feeling only grew as months passed. The empty words of a nervous-as-a-cat Bass, defensively deflecting Donald Trump's directions to make residents as whole as possible as soon as possible, hang in the air still.
In hard-hit Altadena alone, the rebuilding process six months later is sucking the lives and hope out of people.
And every dime they ever had.

...Addressing the concerns of homeowners at a recent community meeting, Barger told them, "You have lost so much, you shouldn't have to worry about permitting fees getting in the way of rebuilding your home. For most families, these fees may have exceeded $20,000. That's a barrier we cannot allow to stand."
The deferral of fees only applies to people who lived in their own single-family homes before the fire. It does not apply to non-owner-occupied rental properties, multi-family housing units or commercial structures.
The county estimates that if 60% of homeowners in Altadena and elsewhere in unincorporated Palisades rebuild, it would amount to $84 million in building permit fees.
Permitting is only one hurdle. For most, state and local building codes have changed in the decades since many of these homes were originally built, meaning the house has to have changes and extras that insurance covering a like-to-like rebuild does not account for.
"It adds expenses that we didn't expect. Like, solar is required on all new builds, and so is the easement from the property line. It's got to be five feet now and ours was only three," says Toomey, as she stands under a backyard oak tree that survived.
"And insurance doesn't pay for that stuff. That's on us," Silvernail adds.
Soil sampling is now required, and that tacks another $5000-$8000 onto the process.
The very long and tedious process, which is beginning to look as if it's specifically designed to soak as much money out of the homeowner as possible before they give up in disgust and move elsewhere.
There have been only an unconscionable 44 building permits approved in LA County since the fires.

...But the process is still slow. As of midday July 1, 2025, the LA County Permitting Progress Dashboard showed 890 rebuild applications in the Eaton Fire area, but only 44 building permits have been issued, taking an average turnaround of about 10 weeks to get through the process.
And speed matters. A survey of fire victims found that the longer it takes to rebuild, the more likely it is people won't move back.
"So even folks that fully intend to move back today, if this process, either through permitting or financing or insurance, takes more than three years, the percentage of people that want to move back drops to like 50%," Kawahara says.
Those are the single-family homeowners' travails.
Back in February, I wrote about a new Los Angeles ordinance that had come into effect, requiring low-income housing to be erected, replacing apartment buildings that were lost.
What that meant to fire victims who'd lost their rental homes was they might never have a home to return to if the landlord rebuilt their building and they now earned too much to make the qualifications for the low-income threshold.
In effect, LA County would be making them homeless.

Read the whole thing.

Monday morning over six months after the fire and zero work. No trucks no crews no materials pic.twitter.com/BlUrhsFT26
— Adam Carolla (@adamcarolla) July 14, 2025

Adam Corolla: Gavin Newsom is a 'Sociopath' who doesn't even know who he is.

Weakness masquerading as strength. 🎯 pic.twitter.com/LvmIk0JhvF
— Joni Job (@jj_talking) July 14, 2025

Flashback: As LA burned, the Democrat-controlled State Assembly appropriated $25 million to fight Trump.

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1 I am not shocked by this news.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)

2 I told the others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)

3 The leftoids will be forced out of their homes into smaller condos.

They'll blame Trump/Climate Change/"Rightwing extremists Republicans" and they'll vote for the same Democrats that did this to them.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (t0Rmr)

4 "But...we're fairly well off Democrats! None of this shit was supposed to touch us! I guess we'll just have to vote for more Democrats to fix this!"
-former residents of the Palisades

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)

5 But the weather!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 15, 2025 03:00 PM (63Dwl)

6 and so it continues

Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's continuing at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (jc0TO)

7 California is run by evil.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not kill at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (gxokI)

8 The conspiracy theorists get lucky again!

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (Qr870)

9 Absolutely the best part of all this will be if Trump manages to get rid of a significant fraction of the illegals so that there aren't any people to live in the apartments they're building on the land which used to be owned by the people who voted for them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 03:02 PM (ExV1e)

10 Now if you are a member of the inner party they wouldn't let the fires touch you - you get competent government.

The outer party sometimes will as well.

But run of the mill lefty voters? Sorry people your properties are the eggs they needed to make their immigrant omelet.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:02 PM (t0Rmr)

11 When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing and push out the upper middle class people who live there." He also heavily insinuated there was a racial angle to it.

Sounded nuts at the time, but uh... Hmmm.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)

12 8 The conspiracy theorists get lucky again!
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:01 PM (Qr870)

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I thought that the governments in CA would bulldoze all regulation to appease a donor base by getting their houses rebuilt as fast as possible.

But...I was very wrong.

They don't give enough money to the Democrat Party, it seems, to matter. Probably should fix this by just giving more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

13 fascinating to find out who those lucky 44 permit holders are ... & who they are related to.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (dKEEs)

14 The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling. Even if it's not good news for residents of LA, she's smiling. It's the same with Osama Bin Lenin. Always smiling. In a politician this does not inspire me with confidence.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)

15 "People suspected that Newsom and Bass would not let this crisis go to waste and would seize people's property in order to build apartment buildings for the poor."

I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

16 Then they're going to offer peanuts to buy these distressed, deliberately-impoverished landowners out.

Isn't this how Crassus became the richest man in Rome?

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (jc0TO)

17 I see the Dems voted on something to release the Epstein files in the Senate.

They had 4 years to do this under the Junta and nada.

Now if Trump wanted to maximize this he'd wait until every prominent Dem comes out and says "release all the files" and then do so...

If a bunch of information was destroyed under the Junta says so. If some of the information is controlled by NYS judges...says so.

But the current line isn't helping

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (t0Rmr)

18 13 fascinating to find out who those lucky 44 permit holders are ... & who they are related to.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (dKEEs)

Ooh, that's small fries compared to the developers who will make a fucking killing on this.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (uCjyK)

19 If it were me, I'd take my insurance check and hightail it for a red state.

Then again, if it were me, I'd have hightailed it for a red state 50 years ago.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (qpyNK)

20 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

The only thing lefties hate more than righties are other lefties. The dirty secret of Communism is its more transactional than Capitalism.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (Qr870)

21 I feel horrible for these people knowing what it's like to have your living situation jacked around for 6 months personally.

Of course, I didn't vote for crap like that either but still.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (jvJvP)

22 It’s almost like that empty reservoir was part of the plan.

Posted by: EveR at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (rdF17)

23 Behold, your 15-minute city. Foisted upon you by the exact same people who TOLD YOU they were going to foist them upon you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (fCgdX)

24 Remember when DJT attended a round-table meeting with Bass and her stooges shortly after the fires were snuffed? The President extracted a promise from the mayor that she would fast-track the permit process to help the homeowners rebuild on their properties. He said to her face that he didn't believe her, but he hoped it would happen.

Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (rj6Yv)

25 CA residents voted for this........

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:06 PM (g8Ew8)

26 If a bunch of information was destroyed under the Junta says so. If some of the information is controlled by NYS judges...says so.

But the current line isn't helping
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:05 PM (t0Rmr)

It's easy. Fuck the judges, fuck the FBI, and fuck the DOJ.

Trump can pick up the phone and call Tulsi Gabbard and tell her to march her Hawaiian ass over to Langley have make the CIA turn over everything they have, then release that.

That's where the real info will be. The important stuff, like who was funding / controlling Epstein, who was targeted for this honey pot, how it worked, etc. The FBI almost definitely does not have that information.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (uCjyK)

27 When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing

I think the amount the left uses willful incompetence to get things they couldn't get otherwise is significant.

This is pretty clearly one of those times.

Who needs to do the Crassus thing when you can just put a bunch of DEI types in charge of fire prevention in areas you want destroyed?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (t0Rmr)

28 Evilcrats.

Posted by: eleven at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (fV+MH)

29 They brought this on themselves. They voted for these charlatans. They let Karen Bass stay in office after the event took place when they should tarred and feathered her and her administration. They found the energy to harass ICE but not Karen Bass and her minions. They bought their ticket.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (TN0g+)

30 If ever there was an example of "they voted for this," this is likely it. I'm willing to hear out people who voted differently, but the stereotypical Californian affected by this? No one has that much empathy.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (srdUp)

31 Newsom 2028 !!!

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (v0R5T)

32 When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing and push out the upper middle class people who live there." He also heavily insinuated there was a racial angle to it.

Sounded nuts at the time, but uh... Hmmm.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
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I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (iFTx/)

33 Gavin Newscum and Karen B@assamatic

You will not own your home and you will love it serf.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (fFOKU)

34 The california representatives of the high table want him for preezy. The Chicago members got their way with Obama and Biden.

Posted by: Where is John Wick when you need him at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (luH9j)

35 CA residents voted for this........

Residents yes. I'm not convinced the majority of the citizens voted for this stuff though.

I think the recall election showed just how fake CA vote totals are

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (t0Rmr)

36 When this fire happened, a friend of mine from CA said "they allowed this fire to burn, they purposely left the reservoirs empty and let nature take its course because they wanted to bulldoze all of that land to build new low income housing

I think the amount the left uses willful incompetence to get things they couldn't get otherwise is significant.

This is pretty clearly one of those times.

Who needs to do the Crassus thing when you can just put a bunch of DEI types in charge of fire prevention in areas you want destroyed?
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Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence. What they did afterwards was willful.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (TN0g+)

37 The illegals will probably love the area too....

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY and NOT HOMELESS - New Life Creation - 11.1% at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (jvJvP)

38 Her Excellency, Madam Kimberly Guilfoyle, Ambassador to Greece is set to announce her new book "Leaving Little Gavin, a Collection of Short Stories".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (gm9Sb)

39 I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (viF8m)

40 40 I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:09 PM (viF8m)

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If only Comrade Newsom knew!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

41 I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:08 PM (iFTx/)

Well, of course the prime real estate will be resurrected bigger and better than ever for the "right people."

But I'm sure a big chunk will go to illegal immigrants and others as well.

Deals will be made.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (uCjyK)

42 I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.

To pull a line from the Simpsons...

Government employee: I said I couldn't help you, I didn't say I couldn't hurt you

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (t0Rmr)

43 On one hand, this is terrible and unjust.. I feel bad for the few decent Americans impacted by this. On the other hand, two-thirds of these people voted for this, and smaller proportions protested for this, rioted for this, contributed for this, shilled for this, or alienated friends and family for this, so f*ck 'em. They can fix it themselves, or let it be a warning for the rest of the nation. Sorry, Adam

Posted by: Disappointed Idealist at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (4K1AM)

44 Incredibly sad.

I would go ballistic, like John Beluchi, Samurai Swordsman. And gather all my wealthy friends to do the same.

It would be one thing to say, "No building on that spit of land next to the beach, let it go natural, yada, blada, organic, save the whales."

And I personally would not want to live right next to my neighbors and the busy road behind me. But each of those home owners should be able to rebuild, no doubt at higher costs and insurance.

This is America, dammit!

I really hope the people rise up and fight! Put down your bongs and get this done!

Instead: cheap housing for the poors? That's a great move, seeing as how it was rumored that the homeless isane druggies started the fires!

Outrageous. But not surprised.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (6PCLE)

45 Not saying it happened but what if Trump rope a doped Democrats into caring about Epstein?

Of course what's really happening is Democrats think they "got 'im", it's all a show they have no intention of letting this stuff ever see the light of day.

It's like Republicans voting 12 times to repeal ObamaCare. Uh-huh.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:10 PM (Qr870)

46 Section 8 housing next to Multi-million dollar homes is now the California dream.

Do it and watch the crime rates increase......

Posted by: Allotta Fagina at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (BltCC)

47 Hair Gel and Bass Mouth will congratulate themselves on building "affordable housing".

They'll be nowhere to be found when it becomes Cabrini Green by the Sea.

Posted by: kbdabear at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (zBOzm)

48
It would be one thing to say, "No building on that spit of land next to the beach, let it go natural, yada, blada, organic, save the whales."

Now the way that one works is if you are inner party or willing to pay as a member of the outer party you still get your house on the beach.

But it is a good way to confine the area to those that are connected.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:11 PM (t0Rmr)

49
I think they're pushing out the middle class to make room for richer people (who happen to be nice fat donors), but regardless the middle class is getting fucked.
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There are wealth funds looking to glom on that real estate and the politicians are gonna get paid for facilitating. You are watching it happen. It will go on for years. Eventually Chinese billionaires will end up with some sweet land holdings on pac coast highway....

Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (luH9j)

50 Hey Cali Richie Rich?

Remember when you voted for this?

And we told you not to, that this is what you'd get?

And you whined, "but I can't vote Republican, they'll ban comic books of fags sucking dick and fingering assholes from the pre-school libraries!!"

Well.

Stew in your shit.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (Jw2IK)

51 I'd like to know what the rich and famous that lost their homes have to say about all this. Do they get some sort of special dispensation?

Because they'd be the likely ones to bitch about not being able to build back.

The others? Yea, appears tough shit for you.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (Q4IgG)

52 "They're refusing to grant permits to let people rebuild, so that their multimillion-dollar properties become effectively valueless."

These people are probably 90% hard left Democraps. These people overwhelmingly despise people like me. These people overwhelmingly want to see me dead.

Fuck these people through the dick with acid-laced 40-grit sandpaper and then kick them repeatedly in the nuts with ice hockey skates. Repeat until they pass out from pain. Wait them up and repeat.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (iFTx/)

53 Maybe one final attempt to recall Newscum will finally deliver him an electoral defeat.

I think the California state GOP would be up to the task.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (5yDGQ)

54 30 If ever there was an example of "they voted for this," this is likely it. I'm willing to hear out people who voted differently, but the stereotypical Californian affected by this? No one has that much empathy.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:07 PM (srdUp)

Nearly 50% of California residents are either foreign born, or the children of at least one immigrant.

So I don't know how much we can truly blame the upper class white people who were either accidentally or purposely displaced and who will have their neighborhoods bulldozed and replaced by a smattering of mega mansions for Chinese billionaires and slums for our lawn mowing amigos.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (uCjyK)

55 Not saying it happened but what if Trump rope a doped Democrats into caring about Epstein?

It would be a smart play...we'll see if that is his strategy I guess.

But right now I see the same leftists arguing Epstein was a hoax and there was never anything to it now arguing Trump is/was an Epstein client.

Amazing how their minds work

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (t0Rmr)

56 >> I do not understand Californians at all. I would be marching on Sacramento if this pyscho pulled this shit on me.

They built it. It’s their monster. All the politicians involved will be reelected. There won’t be any change in the legislature.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (mVMuD)

57 "The leftoids will be forced out of their homes into smaller condos.
Posted by: 18-1"

Which is better than what they deserve, which is a tiny house or stacked shipping crate apartment hey were trying to make a thing.

Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (GUOwU)

58 Not a dime of federal aid, please. I would rather my tax money be wasted on the Ukraine or an Iranian nuke.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 15, 2025 03:13 PM (wBaIH)

59 The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling. Even if it's not good news for residents of LA, she's smiling. It's the same with Osama Bin Lenin. Always smiling. In a politician this does not inspire me with confidence.

'Smiling Hans' Kesselring enters the chat.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (GYt5+)

60 Time to declare the entire state of California is in a state of insurrection perhaps?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (fFOKU)

61 SUCKERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Gav Newsome at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (q/j2W)

62 These members of the Communist Elite are now getting what's called 'Experience'. And everybody knows that 'Experience' is what you get when you don't get what you want'.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (ayRl+)

63 directly contradicting Gavin Newsom's previous assurance to homeowners that such government‑driven property conversions wouldn't happen.

The voters of Cali woke up with a whore because they went to bed with a whore.

Posted by: Carl Fox at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (5yGIt)

64 Eventually Chinese billionaires will end up with some sweet land holdings on pac coast highway....
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (luH9j)

Yup.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (g8Ew8)

65 The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)

66 I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.

LA has a plan on the books to become a fully WEF compliant "15 minute city". The fire area would be a great place to set up one 15-minute ring.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (2ocoG)

67 Time to declare the entire state of California is in a state of insurrection perhaps?

If the governor of CA in 1942 was trying to bring in and protect "Japanese undocumented immigrants" how would FDR have handled it?

That is what Trump should do...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (t0Rmr)

68 Democrats care about Epstein, trannies and illegal immigrants. Let that sink in. That’s their constituency.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (mVMuD)

69 Peopl not from California dn't realize that Pacific Palisades was and is one of the prime spots for real estate in the entire nation. It's one of the few places in L.A. that has spectacular ocean views, and also has the best air quality in L:A as well. And even so, it is extremely close to all the "action" (to the extent you'd want to be near the action in L.A. these days), just steps from Santa Monica, West Hollywood,S unset Blvd., most of the movie studios, near the airport, etc. T top it all off, most of the houses there were mansions or near-mansions, built in the 1920s with master craftsmanship. If I could have chosen anywhere in Sothern Caifornia to live, it would have been Pacific Palisades.

But it is exactly all these reasons why the left hates it and wants it destroyed.

Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (pMi6S)

70 Kimberly Guilfoyle is Ambassador to Greece? I did not know that.

Opa! Hellas!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (PiwSw)

71 Field Marshall 'Smiling Al' Kesselring was competent and evil.

Bassamatic is only evil.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (fFOKU)

72 Trump needs to sign an executive order declaring California a territory with the same rights as Puerto Rico....

Posted by: Buster Hymand at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (q/j2W)

73 70 Peopl not from California dn't realize that Pacific Palisades was and is one of the prime spots for real estate in the entire nation. It's one of the few places in L.A. that has spectacular ocean views, and also has the best air quality in L:A as well. And even so, it is extremely close to all the "action" (to the extent you'd want to be near the action in L.A. these days), just steps from Santa Monica, West Hollywood,S unset Blvd., most of the movie studios, near the airport, etc. T top it all off, most of the houses there were mansions or near-mansions, built in the 1920s with master craftsmanship. If I could have chosen anywhere in Sothern Caifornia to live, it would have been Pacific Palisades.

But it is exactly all these reasons why the left hates it and wants it destroyed.
Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:15 PM (pMi6S)

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"I can't believe this leopard is eating my face!"
-person who voted for the leopards eating my face party

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

74 I'm surprised that they're surprised they are being required to rebuild to current codes. Anyone with an older property should know that their replacement cost coverage needs to account for that.

Posted by: Bigsmith at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (1Au9i)

75 66 The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)

Sounds like a fun day at the beach.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (uCjyK)

76 Isn't this how Crassus became the richest man in Rome?
Posted by: toby928

With a hint of Nero's urban renewal method.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (L/fGl)

77 I can't believe the people who locked everyone in their homes for years, arrested them for going alone to parks and the beach while bearing secret responsibility for the deaths of millions including healthy elderly they trapped inside death camps with the virulent and contagious for no reason and who promised a chemical cure for all of it, that ended up in many cases far worse than the disease they created in the first place, would do this!!

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:16 PM (Qr870)

78
I think the California state GOP would be up to the task.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 15, 2025 03:12 PM (5yDGQ)

I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (y9nCu)

79
*shoulder shimmy*
*cow milking hand motions*
*shit eating grin*

Posted by: Gavin Newsom at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

80 Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence.
==
This is an insult to the incompetent.

Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (luH9j)

81 I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell

Food quality might improve.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (fFOKU)

82 Wonder if someone is gonna find a way to take this lack of permitting to a federal court (b/c it's an auto-loser in a CA court)...equal protection meets the takings clause?

If I was a pricey lawyer who wanted to stick it to CA (and I'm one of those who lost my home), I'd start trying some novel legal theories, especially using what the idiot polticos have said themselves...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (tOcjL)

83 Hopefully, Oprah will be able to buy up a lot of property like she did in Hawaii so she can build lots of low income housing for her friends and family. Maybe she can give each one a new car too! This makes me so happy! I love Oprah! Being a resident of California since I came here illegally 30 years ago, I love this place!

Posted by: Graciela Marciela Madonna Rodriguez at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (rfMRc)

84 Thus they can rename Pacific Palisades, Shithole-by-the-Sea.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (MZ+PY)

85 The land of the free...

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (ERYKL)

86 They happily voted for this, and I am happy they are getting what they voted for.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:18 PM (XFYYr)

87 Illegal takingI would think is a pretty accurate summation of these actions.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (fFOKU)

88 Your periodic reminder that once the illegal population hit critical mass in the 90s, Cali elections have been faker than Pelosi's face shape. There is pretty substantial evidence that they cheat like hell, and don't even bother disguising it with toilet flushes.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (2ocoG)

89 The Hardering.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (jc0TO)

90 I will feel sorry for any of the affected people who can prove they voted for President Trump.

Posted by: Weasel at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (mgRTg)

91 Those sites will make great "affordable housing" for all our border jumping newcomers as well as Chinese national "students." After all, they deserve that ocean view.

Posted by: brak at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (jGJov)

92 Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence.

That was planned. Much better times of the year to drain for maintenance other than fire season.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (4IClK)

93 81 Yep, the reservoirs being empty was incompetence.
==
This is an insult to the incompetent.
Posted by: Its not funny because it's true at July 15, 2025 03:17 PM (luH9j)

"Hey, how important do you think it is to make sure we have enough water pressure for all of the fire hydrants in this area, which is one of the most prone to wildfires areas of the world?"

"ehh... listen, the reservoir cover is broken. It's under warranty. We'll be fine leaving it empty for a few years."

"you sure?"

"it'll be fine, trust me!"

Yeah, I don't think that happened either. But maybe.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (uCjyK)

94 "Section 8 housing next to Multi-million dollar homes is now the California dream.

Posted by: Allotta Fagina"

Think of it a the 15 minute city. The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.

Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (GUOwU)

95 Steve Garvey must have connections to people who know rich people in the Palisades. He needs to reach out to them and promise to waive all permitting and let them rebuild in exchange for financial support for a gubernatorial bid.

Posted by: Keyser at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (9ZGzn)

96 1 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 15, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)

Even less shocking would be it coming out that this was a targeted arson attack that was done to leverage property rights change. I strongly suspect that Hawaii was a defacto op. If only we had a Federal investigatory agency who was zealous in looking at who benefitted from arson-based disasters.

Arson should be a capital offense.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (XFYYr)

97 Seriously, isn't this being given way more attention than it deserves ... ? Let it go … they're getting what they voted for. It. Ain't. Our. Problem. ...

Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (ayRl+)

98 I read that a fair number of those homes were rentals. So a ready-made population looking to rent is just waiting for their apartments. Too bad they'll likely be pushed aside for the illegals and indigents that will be settled in brand new section 8 high density apartments.

A brand new ghetto for the pols to glom onto.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (Q4IgG)

99 15 minute cities?

Don't think they thought this out when MS-13 is your neighbors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (fFOKU)

100 93 Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:19 PM (4IClK)

On the one hand they are idiots, on the other hand they are evil greedy cocksuckers who are idiots.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (XFYYr)

101 The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM

That puts them within easy looting distance. I like my criminals at least a bus ride away.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)

102 14 The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling. Even if it's not good news for residents of LA, she's smiling. It's the same with Osama Bin Lenin. Always smiling. In a politician this does not inspire me with confidence.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)

The old southern expression "grinning like an egg-sucking dog" comes to mind

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (5xvZ1)

103 >>I wouldn't let those corrupt, incompetent asses in the CA GOPe be Assistant Night Manager at a Compton Taco Bell

Well they won't be using Mexicans any longer.

>>@zerohedge
·
>>5m
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (viF8m)

104 Sven Lives!

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)

105 ‘ Newsom and Bass would not let this crisis go to waste and would seize people's property in order to build apartment buildings for the poor.’

Once again, the democrats’ favorite farm animals benefit at everyone else’s expense. That should secure their votes ( and the penumbras of their votes) to the ‘Rats .
I can see why they vote for the socialists. Everyone else voting that way continues to baffle me.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jbnUc)

106 100 Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (fFOKU)

15 minute cities with the nearest police response 1 hour away.

//LA Noir

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (XFYYr)

107 Being a victim of California and it's fire crap and building codes fuck that place.
At one time I wanted to retire there. Now I don't even want to go.

Posted by: Reforger at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (lPvx2)

108 In my blue state the locals voted for some feel good "low cost housing" initiative. Basically it lets the state force towns to build low income housing, but the towns ALSO have to approve it through a quirk of state law.

Well one of the wealthy blue towns near mine did so, congratulating themselves for it.

The state then seized their one and only fancy hotel where most big functions in the area where held and turned the land over to a politically connected developer that will tear down the hotel and build tenements for "newcomers".

The local lefties are shocked that this would happen. They just wanted cheaper housing...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (t0Rmr)

109 Let's be clear,
They are not going to build "low income" housing, they are going to use that as a feint to build luxury apartments and beachfront development where the developers make billions and kick back to the pols.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (S6/Nv)

110 Don't think they thought this out when MS-13 is your neighbors.

Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom didn't think things out? I'm not sure they can think.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (2ocoG)

111 Climate Change is Driving Homelessness in California!

Posted by: The MSM at July 15, 2025 03:22 PM (IChGZ)

112 I strongly suspect that Hawaii was a defacto op. If only we had a Federal investigatory agency who was zealous in looking at who benefitted from arson-based disasters.
--------

Some of the "emergency response" should be investigated as well--there are reports that perfectly fine exit streets were blocked from use. The "perfectly fine" part was proven when some of those trapped drove AROUND the barriers and found nothing but safety awaiting ahead.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (TN0g+)

113 The only pictures I've ever seen of Karen Bass if of her smiling.

Rumor has it she's going to be on the September cover of Bass Masters.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (4IClK)

114 Think of it a the 15 minute city. The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (GUOwU)

Sounds great to me! You keep your house slaves close to the plantation at all times, they have fewer excuses about having to bring their kids to the doctors or broken down cars or whatever nonsense they say.

Maybe you can even get a bus to bring them from their hovels to the mansion, which would further cut down on traffic while you're trying to get to LAX in the back of your limo.

Really, it's a win/ win.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (uCjyK)

115 Hopefully the fire response is faster than One Hour Photo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (fFOKU)

116 It's a way for Gavin to look smaht.

Yes, there's a 10ft hole in the roof. It's not about nuance.

It's about throwing so much BS into the air that hopefully people walk away and say to themselves: you know what? Maybe the gutters and facial do have something to do with the 10ft hole in the roof. It's to try and make you forget about the question because there was no answer.

Gavin is stupid. Start there and everything flows from that point.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (JkCto)

117 15 minute cities?

-
Average life expectancy?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (L/fGl)

118 They are not going to build "low income" housing, they are going to use that as a feint to build luxury apartments and beachfront development where the developers make billions and kick back to the pols.

They're global warming true believers. It's gonna be brutalist concrete pods as far as the eye can see, and Klaus Schwab will christen it with his semen.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (2ocoG)

119 Palisades overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris, hard to get too upset about all this

Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (mjCXl)

120 this all kinds of fucked up. As bad as Colorado is, after that New year's fire in Superior a few years ago, that took out a thousand houses, rebuilding commenced almost immediately.

I wonder if that would happen in CO now. they are catching up to California rapidly.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (PSEDc)

121 105 Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (jc0TO)

Barely, I am experimenting with making Proton based steam machines using all AMD parts. It will enable me to gift people Ryzen 1000 based gaming boxes using renewed 6600-6650xt graphics cards.

300% of a steamdeck's performance at ~ 2/3ds the price. Not portable but fun and able to be sized down to ~ a webster's dictionary sized console probably.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (XFYYr)

122 Posted by: Polka will never die at July 15, 2025 03:21 PM (5xvZ1)

I've never heard that. It's quite a colorful expression. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (2GCMq)

123 This is gonna happen in Seattle. Bank on it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)

124 I'll bet it will have light rail.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (S6/Nv)

125 One could fence in Pacific Palisades (for the protection of new residents), put in place a shit pot full of Sero Scotty Trailers, and set up bus service to Beverly Hills and Hollywood. You would never have to worry about illegals again, or your lawn, or the silver ware getting dull. It would be like summer camp, all year round.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (gm9Sb)

126 >>>
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens

not my tacos and margaritas!!!

that's my favorite part of diversity!!!!!!!

Posted by: AWFLs at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (jGJov)

127
"Hey, how important do you think it is to make sure we have enough water pressure for all of the fire hydrants in this area, which is one of the most prone to wildfires areas of the world?"

"ehh... listen, the reservoir cover is broken. It's under warranty. We'll be fine leaving it empty for a few years."

I suspect the second line is more like, "Well ok fine we'll get to that right after we get these diversity reports done. BTW I just signed up for a wine and painting class so I'll be leaving every day this month at 2 PM so...maybe we'll get to it in a couple years? And remember people don't kill the job!"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (t0Rmr)

128 Are you not cynical?

Posted by: Duncanthrax Maximus at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (0sNs1)

129 Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM

I think I followed that.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (jc0TO)

130 124 This is gonna happen in Seattle. Bank on it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)

=======

What?

It's gonna stop raining?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)

131 You know what would really fuck things up to massive entertainment?

If Trump says, "If a single apartment complex, a single multi-resident property or anything but single-occupancy, residential housing is ever planned there, I'm going to order ICE to exercise the federal eminent domain and seize it from the state for a detention center.

We're going to build a big, beautiful ICE facility right there.
There will never be an apartment in the Palisades."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (Jw2IK)

132 127 >>>
Crackdown Begins: Federal Agents Target Taco Shops Employing Illegal Aliens

not my tacos and margaritas!!!

that's my favorite part of diversity!!!!!!!
Posted by: AWFLs at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (jGJov)

=======

I remember how it wasn't real French crepes because Puerto Ricans were making it.

Rolled them too tight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

133 To Live And Die In LA

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (viF8m)

134
The ocean view, blocked by a couple low rider Monte Carlos with "Los Diablo" decals on the rear window. Cheech and Raoul sitting on the hoods, drinking Modelos.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 15, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)

On the other hand, snooty CA jackwagons have a well-deserved reputation for claiming that those beaches are their property and calling in either rent-a-cops or the actual Sheriff's Department to throw people off the beach. Even though all CA coastlines are claimed by the state and declared to be public lands.

I'd love to see the yootoob vid of some rich hippie Karen walking up to some beer-swilling MS-13 thugs and trying to kick them off the beach.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (y9nCu)

135 113 Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:23 PM (TN0g+)

Hence "op", I am thinking there is some group of billionaires that have decided the millionaires who were doing well in "paradise" in Hawaii and Cali need to go.

Like him or hate him Kurt Schlichter had Cali's future's number in his Kelly Turnbull series.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (XFYYr)

136 I sure hope a unhoused differently abled intellectually disabled person does not burn down whatever gets rebuilt there in the end. That would be sad.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (CzMNg)

137 Seattle is in its own special Circle of Socialist Hell where the rain never ceases, and the city will fix the roof leaks in five years.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (fFOKU)

138 In 1975 I rode on an airplane for the first time in my life when my family took a vacation to Disneyland. I was from the Midwest. California looked like a paradise. For the most part, it was.

Man, has it changed.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 15, 2025 03:26 PM (bNf8H)

139 I agree with the first part, but not the second. The most desirable properties will be "seized" on the cheap, but not for apartment buildings. They will be seized (or rather bought out) by corrupt big-donor developers to build even bigger and grander homes for even richer people.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:04 PM (iFTx/)

Yeah, I've no doubt they'll be building low income housing in the less desirable parts (probably built by big-donor development firms) but keep an eye on what else goes in the plum parts. They'll also need shopping, business dev, etc. There'll be whiplash from all the kickbacks.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (8hxDK)

140 The Plan is to Starve Them Out and Offer Them Pennies on the Dollar for Their Property, to Build Low-Income Apartments

That is 100% the plan. And they are doing it to their wealthiest voters because they know nobody will vote for a Republican over this. And even if they did, I trust the California elections as much as I do Hawk Tua girl's cybercoin

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (dfIr7)

141 >>Posted by: toby928

I saw a van downtown a little while ago with a giant mural of a wizard riding a dragon. I thought it was you until I saw the Florida plates.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (viF8m)

142 There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.

Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (pZEOD)

143 All those immigrants will need some place affordable to live.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (aelnO)

144 124 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (xcxpd)

Eventually, it is part of the reason why one party states are stupid. Hell even the "uniparty" theory is not this brazen in power abuse. Literally the democrat party in Hawaii and Cali could run openly on genocide for outgroups and not lose.

We live in an insane asylum.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (XFYYr)

145 There have been many examples of state mandated "low income" housing that ended up being more expensive and denser than what was there before.

You can not turn Pacific Palisades into a ghetto just by building apartments. Rich people will buy them up because of location. If controlled by state, they will hand out the leases to friends who can afford big kickbacks. There are examples of this happening in other areas in the past but I can't think of where right now.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (S6/Nv)

146 "Soil sampling is now required, and that tacks another $5000-$8000 onto the process."

LOL. Suck it Cali.

Posted by: fd at July 15, 2025 03:28 PM (vFG9F)

147 At this rate in California, in a year it truly will be "Eat the rich."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (fFOKU)

148 I saw a van downtown a little while ago with a giant mural of a wizard riding a dragon. I thought it was you until I saw the Florida plates.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:27 P

The Wizard has to have a puppy under one arm.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (jc0TO)

149 I feel so sorry for all those rich people living in their multi million dollar mansions. They voted for this. They voted for Newsome. They voted for Bass.

They are getting what they voted for. They didn’t gaf when it was other folks’ homes burning. NOW they are being made to care.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (W2Pud)

150 American Idol producer, 70, and her husband were found murdered in their $4.5 million Encino home. Another home invasion?? Not looking good for LA on any front: https://tinyurl.com/3wf6n4n3

Posted by: beckster at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (NLtte)

151 132 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 15, 2025 03:25 PM (Jw2IK)

Eh, using the basis for Kelo for Federal seizures would at least force the matter to be better decided by Scotus.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (XFYYr)

152 My field of Fucks has Been Salted.

Posted by: Minnfidel at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (4p0Xq)

153 Thus they can rename Pacific Palisades, Shithole-by-the-Sea.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder

It's pronounced Shee-THOH-lay Del Mar.

Posted by: California Tourism Board at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (IChGZ)

154 Encino? Home invasion? Murder?

Another one of those tourist gangs from South America?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (fFOKU)

155 You want to talk diversity? A girl at a middle school in England was ordered to go home and change because she wore a nice modest skirt and hat decorated with the Union Jack.

Why was this so outrageous? Was it patriotism? Was it respect for the flag? Did it violate school policy?

No, it was because they were having a multicultural day celebrating various cultures... but not English culture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (dfIr7)

156
Barely, I am experimenting with making Proton based steam machines using all AMD parts. It will enable me to gift people Ryzen 1000 based gaming boxes using renewed 6600-6650xt graphics cards.

300% of a steamdeck's performance at ~ 2/3ds the price. Not portable but fun and able to be sized down to ~ a webster's dictionary sized console probably.
Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (XFYYr)

Who's your buddy? Who's your pal?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (y9nCu)

157 > 125 I'll bet it will have light rail.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (S6/Nv)

Close. Bureaucrats will get paid for "planning" the light rail, consultants will get paid for "studying" the light rail, and contractors will get paid for "designing" the light rail, but no actual rail will ever be laid.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (qpyNK)

158 Palisades overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris, hard to get too upset about all this
Posted by: Maroon at July 15, 2025 03:24 PM (mjCXl)

The USA overwhelmingly voted for Biden and Harris (81 million!), hard to get too upset about J6 or Melania's panties being rifled through.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (2ocoG)

159 I remember how it wasn't real French crepes because Puerto Ricans were making it.

Rolled them too tight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Like a blunt.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (4IClK)

160 150 Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 03:29 PM (W2Pud)

More telling will be "sane" democrats in other states happily pulling for imitation Matthew McConnaughy in 2028....

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (XFYYr)

161 How the fvck do they think they going to get the same amount of property taxes from a bunch of section 8 apartments that they would have received from a bunch of rebuilt luxury homes is truly beyond their ability to grasp.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (e5NfL)

162 American Idol producer, 70, and her husband were found murdered in their $4.5 million Encino home. Another home invasion?? Not looking good for LA on any front: https://tinyurl.com/3wf6n4n3

If it is moral to murder a healthcare exec because he's abusing the system to take people's money why not a infotainment exec as well?

I could get behind the "Free Luigi" movement if he is required to stay in a high income area in NYC, LA, SF, or Alexandria...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (t0Rmr)

163 I hate that this is happening but it's not going to stop until they are thrown out of office and off a bridge.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (7xrfc)

164 143 There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Posted by: Piper at July 15, 2025 03:27 PM (pZEOD)

Think about it. You're a kid born in America to two Mexican immigrants.

Your parents are illiterate. Maybe your mom cleans toilets and your dad mows lawns.

You come up in the shitty LAUSD schools where you learn how terrible and racist America is. You go to community college, fail out. Get a job at Subway making sandwiches for $20 an hour. You live with 4 roommates in a 2 bedroom apartment. Rent keeps going up.

How do you feel about those terrible racist rich white people living in the mansions overlooking the ocean? Maybe a bit angry? Resentful?

That's the voter base in CA. They want to force those people in to poverty. They want to build affordable housing in the rich white areas. They want to fuck those people over.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (uCjyK)

165 @151 To be fair, a $4.5 million Encino home probably doesn't have a second bathroom.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (qwx/I)

166 Steve Garvey must have connections to people who know rich people in the Palisades. He needs to reach out to them and promise to waive all permitting and let them rebuild in exchange for financial support for a gubernatorial bid.
Posted by: Keyser at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (9ZGzn)
********
Steve Hilton is the Republican candidate that is running. He's terrific.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (NpAcC)

167 rolled on the smooth plump thighs of Cuban ladies..

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (jc0TO)

168 98 Seriously, isn't this being given way more attention than it deserves ... ? Let it go … they're getting what they voted for. It. Ain't. Our. Problem. ...

Posted by: Dr_No at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM (ayRl+)

This and Hawaii were templates. If lefties start taking over more and more cities/states, expect more fires in desirable or red areas and the use of eminent domain to claim the damaged properties. Vote like your life, livelihood and home depend on it.

Posted by: moki at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (wLjpr)

169 Harry Paratestes

The tax rolls will definably suffer. This is all an own goal.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)

170 155 Encino? Home invasion? Murder?

Another one of those tourist gangs from South America?
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No suspects at this time but there was a prowler reported at the property last week. May have been the SA gangs or maybe a 'native.'

Posted by: beckster at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (NLtte)

171 157 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (y9nCu)

There is finally an opportunity to stick it to Microsoft, I cannot not take it. If/when I can get the pricepoint equilibrium to sub 300 for the whole kit and kaboodle I will probably be giving them away. I am very burnt out on my contracting work, and I am probably going to go into semi-retirement within the next two years.

Time to get back to my side hustles.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XFYYr)

172 How the fvck do they think they going to get the same amount of property taxes from a bunch of section 8 apartments that they would have received from a bunch of rebuilt luxury homes is truly beyond their ability to grasp.
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But you're assuming any of those in charge have any interest in "effective government administration".

Spoiler: They don't.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+)

173 American Idol producer, 70, and her husband were found murdered in their $4.5 million Encino home. Another home invasion?? Not looking good for LA on any front: https://tinyurl.com/3wf6n4n3

If it is moral to murder a healthcare exec because he's abusing the system to take people's money why not a infotainment exec as well?

I could get behind the "Free Luigi" movement if he is required to stay in a high income area in NYC, LA, SF, or Alexandria...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 15, 2025 03:31 PM (t0Rmr)
_____

Did anyone spot a fag wielding a hammer?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (iFTx/)

174 The second bathroom for guests is listed on the blueprints as a bidet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (fFOKU)

175 You don't hate these people enough.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (Wnv9h)

176 the DNC in general and California in particular really dislike having a middle class. I suppose they know that it is easier to implement their bullshit with just a small upperclass and a lower class that depends on getting at least partial support from the gub'mint.

I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)

177 I hate that this is happening but it's not going to stop until they are thrown out of office and off a bridge.
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That should be a ballot initiative.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+)

178 169 Posted by: moki at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (wLjpr)

Correct the "cold civil war" is simmering, and "neighborhood watch" may take on necessity as a virtue.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XFYYr)

179 Townhall.com
@townhallcom
ZOHRAN MAMDANI: If I ever ran out of money, my family would be able to support me.

https://tinyurl.com/3h6amhen

Posted by: redridinghood at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (NpAcC)

180 The tax rolls will definably suffer. This is all an own goal.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)

They don't care.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (uCjyK)

181 "Soil sampling is now required, and that tacks another $5000-$8000 onto the process."
......

Yep, it's dirt. Pay me.

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (v0R5T)

182 177 Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)

Most people when they engage in masturbation looking towards Brazil are doing so because of the beautiful locals...

democrats do so because of the favelas.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:34 PM (XFYYr)

183 That should be a ballot initiative.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (TN0g+) /i]

Sorry, that's ballot initiative is unconstitutional.

Posted by: The CA SC at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (t0Rmr)

184 I suspect some homeowners in the Palisades intended to leave their homes to their kids. If the city offers pennies on the dollar, they will not be happy.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (rJ48h)

185 Make me.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (Pce4l)

186 Remember Springfield, Ohio? Where Haitians were eating the pets last year?

Clark County ain't in California ...

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (WXIX) - Hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees, including those in Clark County, are expected to lose their Temporary Protected Status in just a couple of months after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security rescinded a previous extension made by the Biden administration.

Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (rj6Yv)

187 >
The tax rolls will definably suffer. This is all an own goal.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:32 PM (u82oZ)

Nah... a lot of these mooks are just in it for the short-term score.

They don't give a fuck if the whole thing goes smash 10 or 15 years down the line. By that time they're planning on being in a nice place in Arizona or something.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (qpyNK)

188 This is one of the most evil schemes I've ever seen. If a corporation tried to screw devastated people like this, there would be vigilante movies coming out of Hollywood every month. But it's Democrats, so no one says a fucking word.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (xP8uf)

189 Section 8 housing next to Multi-million dollar homes is now the California dream.

Do it and watch the crime rates increase......

Posted by: Allotta Fagina
===

You think Section 8 Denizens steal from each other?
You have to put them next to where the pickings are good.

This is the brilliance of putting just a few section 8 into each new development. Spread them out so they are harder to protest against.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (/lPRQ)

190 The likes of Newscum and Bassamaticc are confident they will be long gone when California becomes a state shaped sink hole.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (fFOKU)

191 My husband agrees with you all. Because he is a bigger Moron than I am. He says lawsuits will tie it up and it probably will be high end apts to enrich the rich with kickbacks to the politicians.

I guess I felt bad for possibly the one person who voted Trump/Vance and has a second home on that land for generations. I have a vivid imagination.

We also used to live a block from the Atlantic after building a house, and that's why it sent me briefly insane. The thought of this. Not that I'd rebuild if a hurricane wiped us out, but I'd want market value.

The Pacific Palisades people are going to be thrilled to look down on this beach, now occupied by cartels, illegals and homeless meth heads. I hope Mel Gibson raises all sorts of hellfire and damnation.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (6PCLE)

192 I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)

We did just fine without one.

Posted by: PRC at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (Pce4l)

193 Is any rebuilding going on in Lahaina?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (W2Pud)

194 [Tangentially related:]

The wifey and I spent the 4th of July Independence Day holiday weekend at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon (my first visit there after a dozen visits to the more built up, popular, and crowded in South Rim

It was fantastic -- and now we're among the last to have experienced and seen the historic old Lodge and Cabins

A lightning-caused wildfire some miles away began our last night there -- and instead of quickly containing and putting it out, the stupid decision was made to let it burn some undergrowth and deadwood (in red flag conditions mind you with 100° temperatures and high winds).

Now all the structures are gone (many built by 1937 after the original Lodge burned down in 192

and many workers are left with no jobs and few possessions remaining.

Hopefully President Trump and his people will cut through any red tape & idiotic regulations & building codes to get it rebuilt as faithfully, soon, and inexpensively as possible.

Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (Bi/Rw)

195
No, it was because they were having a multicultural day celebrating various cultures... but not English culture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (dfIr7)

I saw that. The kids in Welsh/St George gear were sent home as well. No English culture allowed in Old Blighty.

Posted by: moki at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (wLjpr)

196 The Amish would've had that entire city rebuilt in a matter of weeks.

At what point do people just say fuck it, hire whoever, and just build?

They can't stop all of them.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (KbCG3)

197
Nah... a lot of these mooks are just in it for the short-term score.

A lot of true believing leftists claim the world is already doom and we only have years left anyway. None of these people are worried about "the long term"

Posted by: The CA SC at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)

198 193 I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)

We did just fine without one.
Posted by: PRC at July 15, 2025 03:36 PM (Pce4l)

Who needs a middle class when you can have a nomenklatura?

Posted by: USSR at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (Pce4l)

199 [Ancillary ProTip:] The morning we left, we were having a coffee outside behind a beautiful stonewall at the lodge overlooking the canyon -- and I placed my wallet and car key fob on top of the wall.

A cute little chipmunk appeared (they were all over the place, but likely & sadly not anymore) running around, up and down, stopping to pose for pictures ... when suddenly he went for my key fob, gnawing on it trying to get a hold of it and dragging it away!

I managed to shoo him off before he absconded with it down the canyon wall and into a den -- lost forever. We would have been totally screwed ... and possibly forcibly evacuated with someone else -- resulting in my car being a burned-out husk up there now.

So --

Old & Busted: Don't forget to bring a towel!
New Hotness: Don't forget to bring a spare key fob!

Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (Bi/Rw)

200 143 There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.
Posted by: Piper

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In the 90s, in my town in NJ, they would broadcast the town council meetings late at night on cable (mandated public service programming) and I had insomnia.

They spent hours and hours debating where to put the state court mandated low income housing (Mt. Laurel ruling.) It was hilarious -- they discussed where all neighboring towns were putting it. It was a shit show. Nobody wanted this, but no one had political power to stop it, so towns were finding the shittiest spot - usually on the edge of town - and trying to make it so that all transportation available would dump the poors onto the next town over.

This is when I understood I had to leave NJ.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (S6/Nv)

201 I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)

Yeah, they do fine. And we're rapidly approaching that.

You have the true aristocrat class. They may or may not have real jobs, they have intergenerational wealth and don't really care.

You have the "striving" or upper middle class class. They do the white collar work and hope to someday be in the aristocrat class, but they won't ever be accepted in to that class.

Then you have the "worker class" who exist to do everything the aristocrat class wants done.

That's kind of the way of the world, historically. The US somewhat bucked that trend, but things are equalizing out now.

The aristocrats do not want a strong middle class, that's not only terrifying to them, but also an unnecessary use of resources. The plumber doesn't need three cars and a vacation home at the lake.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (uCjyK)

202 @143

>>There is no other area in LA to build low income housing? Maybe next door to the mayor as a suggested start.

Low income housing is the hook, there will be very little low income housing built.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (hfKLq)

203 199 193 I just don't see how societies without a middle class are sustainable. I guess they totter along though, I know its common and the U.S. with a large middle class is more the exception.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 15, 2025 03:33 PM (XatHf)

And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (Pce4l)

204 187 Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:35 PM (rj6Yv)

My brother sold his house in Springfield this year, I am rather happy he did so.

Posted by: sven at July 15, 2025 03:38 PM (XFYYr)

205 the DNC in general and California in particular really dislike having a middle class. I suppose they know that it is easier to implement their bullshit with just a small upperclass and a lower class that depends on getting at least partial support from the gub'mint.

Lefties world wide hate having a middle class. Communism only "works" if you have the commissars and a dependent lower class. Everyone else gets killed for being a kulak or for being a useful idiot that no longer has a use.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (2ocoG)

206 197 The Amish would've had that entire city rebuilt in a matter of weeks.

At what point do people just say fuck it, hire whoever, and just build?

They can't stop all of them.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 15, 2025 03:37 PM (KbCG3)

“Just doing our jobs, like when we kept all those kids off the playground.”

~ The Police

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (Mxf84)

207 *Pauses*

What a truly evil idea.

What if the California Dept. of Environmental Protection and EPA declares the entire Palisades a Super Fund Site?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (fFOKU)

208 This and Hawaii were templates. If lefties start taking over more and more cities/states, expect more fires in desirable or red areas and the use of eminent domain to claim the damaged properties. Vote like your life, livelihood and home depend on it.
Posted by: moki

Too many times and it will be too obvious. Especially if they are trying it in red areas.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (4IClK)

209 Spectacular ocean views? Who cares! I think they should get diversity in Malibu. All of them structures need some culture like tagging, the state can supply the spray paint. Tag that place up, it's art! Then move in homeless people from downtown L.A. with their North Face and Sierra Designs tents and shopping carts. Water right there that they can bathe, piss or shit in. Then when they're all cracked up, looped on fentanyl or whatever drug they're on people driving the PCH can play crackhead slalom from them jittering their way high AF out on the road into traffic like the rest of the inner city dwellers do early in the morning

Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 03:39 PM (IlL6s)

210 Well...shit.

Criterion's gonna take more of my money.

Guillermo del Toro's Nightmare Alley is going into the collection.

"But, TJM, you already have it. You already have it in 4K even."

Yes, but they are also doing the black and white version.

Bastards.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

211 And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon

The government's ATM machine.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (4IClK)

212 *leftover structures from the fire*

Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (IlL6s)

213 Too many times and it will be too obvious.

After watching them blatantly steal the 2020 election and try to assassinate the president, I am convinced now that there is no such thing as "too obvious" or at least "so obvious that everyone turns against it."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)

214 I thought Ukraine was the government's ATM?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (fFOKU)

215 And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon

The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM

The Tax Farm.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (jc0TO)

216 New York Times article: ICE Raids Scare Off L.A. Workers Rebuilding Fire-Torn Areas
Immigrant workers are central to recovery efforts in neighborhoods burned in the January wildfires, but recent raids have led some to stay home.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (JCZqz)

217 Is any rebuilding going on in Lahaina?

No. I've told this here before, but the "natives" are denying permits because they see it as their big chance to actually make good on the "land acknowledgements" and kick out the haoles. The (D) governor tried to make them issue permits and the ACLU sued him for "fascist genocide". A federal judge agreed. Now it will never be rebuilt and the native Hawaiians are just waiting for people to give up and sell them the land for pennies on the dollar.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (2ocoG)

218 SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (WXIX) - Hundreds of thousands of Haitian refugees, including those in Clark County, are expected to lose their Temporary Protected Status in just a couple of months after the U.S. Department of Homeland Security rescinded a previous extension made by the Biden administration.
Posted by: mrp

QUACK !

Posted by: Ducks for Trump at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (v0R5T)

219
California is the Cuban model come home to roost.

Works if you're a Castro or Ana de Armas.

Posted by: Auspex at July 15, 2025 03:42 PM (Y8DZL)

220 After watching them blatantly steal the 2020 election and try to assassinate the president, I am convinced now that there is no such thing as "too obvious" or at least "so obvious that everyone turns against it."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (dfIr7)

Shit, look at people's reaction to the Epstein situation. "bah, move on! He's dead. Who cares?"

The propaganda is strong out there. Shockingly so.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (uCjyK)

221 *Pauses*

What a truly evil idea.

What if the California Dept. of Environmental Protection and EPA declares the entire Palisades a Super Fund Site?
Posted by: Anna Puma

*goes to Science Lab Supply Company and orders 1,000 gallons of mercury

"This is gonna be great!"
Posted by: Flounder

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (4IClK)

222 "But, TJM, you already have it. You already have it in 4K even."

Yes, but they are also doing the black and white version.

Bastards.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.

Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (rj6Yv)

223 I'd like to see/hear some interviews with displaced former homeowners about their feeling towards their state, county and city governments. How many have actually "seen the light?"

Bet it ain't many.

Cuz a lot of them figure the state will take care of them... eventually.

The time to revisit this is in 2027 or '28. After the misery has had a chance to settle in.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (Q4IgG)

224 Adam Carolla's criticism of Gavin Newsom has sustained me emotionally for years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (JvZF+)

225 people driving the PCH can play crackhead slalom

I'd like to see that as an Olympic sport.

Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (pMi6S)

226 224 Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.
Posted by: mrp at July 15, 2025 03:43 PM (rj6Yv)

=======

I don't...really like the film. I do have an older Blu-ray, a multipack with the other two No Name films that I like a lot more.

But, TGTBTU? One of the most beloved westerns ever made?

Not really a fan. I can pass on the 4K.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

227 I thought Ukraine was the government's ATM?
Posted by: Anna Puma

That's Fedgov.
Property tax is local/state gov

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (4IClK)

228 Alar in Mexico is probably cheaper than mercury and not as easily traced.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (fFOKU)

229 They put Light Rail in Sunnyvale when I lived there.
on Fair Oaks. The only road with nice tall trees. Cut down the trees for a fucking bus on rails that stops at red lights.
I took it to work once when my car was being serviced. Normally a 5 min ride took over an hour on light rail. My home and office were both a short walk from stations.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (S6/Nv)

230 Shit, look at people's reaction to the Epstein situation. "bah, move on! He's dead. Who cares?"

Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.

I feel like Biden's Dog wouldn't like that.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)

231 I wonder how these people are holding up though and not filled with murderous rage. I had 5000 hours of meditation under my belt and I was going crazy.

Now that it's over, for my own well being, I have forgiven my brother. And I choose to laugh at all the trauma.

That and I've found tons of their family pictures, their kids' pictures, wedding pictures and I'm shredding them as I clean up the house now that it's FINALLY mine.

I guess I'm a work in progress. And I need the frames.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 11.3 % at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (jvJvP)

232 Newsom has really mastered the Peter Strzok slime ball shoulder shimmy.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ap+5)

233 99 I read that a fair number of those homes were rentals. So a ready-made population looking to rent is just waiting for their apartments. Too bad they'll likely be pushed aside for the illegals and indigents that will be settled in brand new section 8 high density apartments.

A brand new ghetto for the pols to glom onto.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 15, 2025 03:20 PM

I have a good friend who has a sister in Altadena and brother in Pasadena. Both were years-long renters. The brother was eventually able to move back into his home after a couple of months but the sister was not able to. The damage was too extensive. In that situation, two parties are impacted- the owner and the renter. With so many people displaced, places to rent, never mind in their children's school district, were impossible to find. What a nightmare.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (rbKZ6)

234 213 And what’s a middle class other than a group of people who aspire to more? I’d argue nothing.
Posted by: Cow Demon

The government's ATM machine.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:41 PM (4IClK)

EVERYBODY is the government’s ATM when you get right down to it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (Pce4l)

235 At least as concerns Altadena - who is going to work at JPL and Caltech? The low income families?

Posted by: InZona at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (4egyM)

236 I'm holding out until Criterion issues Nightmare Alley in Smell-O-Vision so the sweet fragrance of carnies washes over me as I watch.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (CzMNg)

237 227 people driving the PCH can play crackhead slalom

I'd like to see that as an Olympic sport.
Posted by: zombie

But, just as in "Death Race 2000," the gold medal goes to the person who runs over the most drug addicts.

Posted by: zombie at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (pMi6S)

238 Also, David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me is getting a 4K upgrade. Knew that was coming once one was announced in France like...2 years ago.

I held off on that purchase, so I have no problem picking that 4K up. Also...an upgrade for A History of Violence.

October, man...I'm gonna buy things that come out in October.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

239 The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley
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In the week following The Storm here, I was invited to dinner with two couples here. Two *very* affluent couples. I had spent the day dealing with finding housing for 150 Vets whose facilities had been washed away by the flood.

Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)

240 Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.

I feel like Biden's Dog wouldn't like that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)

I just...

ya know?

This is exhausting.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (uCjyK)

241 Anna Puma

How are you doing? Is life less like the Perils of Anna Puma these days?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (u82oZ)

242 Do you have the 4k Blu-Ray version of "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"? I've seen HD-quality video clips on YT, and they are quite good.

--------

Hey TJM, do you have the 4K Blu-Ray version of "Point Break"?

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (TN0g+)

243 Alar in Mexico is probably cheaper than mercury and not as easily traced.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ooooh. Good thinking.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (4IClK)

244 Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)

Yeah, I work for / with the NYC version of that.

It is something to behold.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (uCjyK)

245 244 Hey TJM, do you have the 4K Blu-Ray version of "Point Break"?
Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (TN0g+)

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No.

Next!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)

246 Reverse gentrification is tight!!!!

Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (dIske)

247 Also, David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me is getting a 4K upgrade. Knew that was coming once one was announced in France like...2 years ago.

GARZAMBOZIO.

It's really not a very good movie.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (CzMNg)

248 249 Also, David Lynch's Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me is getting a 4K upgrade. Knew that was coming once one was announced in France like...2 years ago.

GARZAMBOZIO.

It's really not a very good movie.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 03:47 PM (CzMNg)

=======

It's a very good movie!

Pure descent into Hell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

249 Epstein actually isn't important, except to people who desperately want Trump to nuke Tel Aviv.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:44 PM (2ocoG)

Dude I love your insights and you are usually bang on but - no

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (Qr870)

250 The domestic help is with easy walking distance of your mansion and which also reduces greenhouse gases.
Posted by: Ripley
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In the week following The Storm here, I was invited to dinner with two couples here. Two *very* affluent couples. I had spent the day dealing with finding housing for 150 Vets whose facilities had been washed away by the flood.

Over dinner, the conversation turned to these couples discussion of their favorite chefs, and the virtues of their respective cleaning ladies. Meanwhile, just a mile or so away, thousands of people had lost their homes. I have never experienced, so viscerally the unconcious arrogance of the affluent.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 15, 2025 03:45 PM (XeU6L)
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Good thing you didn't stick around for the discussion of their favorite pool boys ....

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

251 Sounds like DataRepublican is getting ready to drop a nuke of her own on NGOs and the money trail.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (viF8m)

252 California government has turned into the villains in a James Ellroy novel.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (xP8uf)

253 Because I have a connection to Lahaina, I've been checking in on the aftermath of that fire:

https://tinyurl.com/4spjhakp

2 years (very soon) and barely anything has been rebuilt.

Lahaina was a much more middle class area, with actual families, single family homes, smaller shops, et al- unlike the "resort" parts of Maui.

And the government is making sure that these places will never return with their draconian permitting process.

From the article:

"Maui County officials estimated that relaxing the SMA rule would help 103 commercial and 533 residential structures get permits a full year faster than before."

TWO YEARS AFTER THE FIRE, they are discussing relaxing a rule to make it A YEAR sooner to get through the process.

We plan to return in 2028. I'm guessing they might be building by then, but they won't have recovered.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (N1DT3)

254 OTOH,....

In Japan they tried to eminent domain some farms to build Narita. The Japs went full terrorist and for decades they had to cordon off the area and check passports to allow people to enter since the homeowners were blowing shit up.

There are still homes in the middle of runways, although not as much now as a few years ago as people are dying off.

That is what resistance looks like.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (S6/Nv)

255 I bet the bodyguards hated guarding those two.

Newson is trying really hard to be normal but he took much of is normal prescription.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (EyfuW)

256 Good thing you didn't stick around for the discussion of their favorite pool boys ....
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

A good pool boy knows not to make eye contact when working.

A great pool boy knows to make eye contact with the husband sitting in his cuck chair while he rails the husband's wife.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (uCjyK)

257 Democrats née communist, only know jealousy. They addre jealous that people either had nice houses there, or lived there for decades as part of a thriving community. They hate that joy and happiness, so they want to destroy it by turning what those people loved in to another slum.

I get the reflex is always to snark "you got what you voted for" but for many of these people that may not be thr case (and how fucking dumb did that look when so many liberals said the same about the Texas floods)

Hopefully there are enough lawyers or people with money, that they can fight this, before Democrats do more to turn the nicest areas of country into ghettos for the street trash they import.

Posted by: Rbastid at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (uw7Xa)

258 Close. Bureaucrats will get paid for "planning" the light rail, consultants will get paid for "studying" the light rail, and contractors will get paid for "designing" the light rail, but no actual rail will ever be laid.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 15, 2025 03:30 PM (qpyNK)

That pretty well describes marriage too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (g8Ew8)

259 That's a shame.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Joy Bringer at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (/U5Yz)

260 Who knew LA was NC and TN?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (W3T6M)

261 Just finished one complex model of about 300 parts and over 190 decals.

So, for something 'easy' trying to blitz build a specific plane for the 80th anniversary of Japan's surrender.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (fFOKU)

262 Newsom has really mastered the Peter Strzok slime ball shoulder shimmy.
Posted by: Oglebay
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He's a spastic.

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 03:50 PM (UjdFS)

263 Because I have a connection to Lahaina, I've been checking in on the aftermath of that fire:

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:49 PM (N1DT3)

(That connection to Maui? We have some friends who moved from Pacific Palisades to Maui because they were afraid of the fires. Of note, their home on Maui was never in danger from the fires and their previous home in Pacific Palisades is now gone.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 03:51 PM (N1DT3)

264 Here's a funny scenario. Tom Hank's $26 Million mansion was saved due to a massive amount of fire retardant materials and extra costs to provide water features.

His mansion stands as it always has. BUT, he's about to be sitting in the middle of a Low Income neighborhood.

Nice save, Tommy.

Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (dIske)

265 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)

266 Ice ice baby.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:53 PM (cn0nj)

267 268 Ice ice baby.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:53 PM (cn0nj)

Immigracion?!? Ay!

Posted by: Denizens of LA County at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (uCjyK)

268 267 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)

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Dolley and I watched the Hunger Games prequel yesterday over our streaming digital footlocker.

The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

269 How the fvck do they think they going to get the same amount of property taxes from a bunch of section 8 apartments that they would have received from a bunch of rebuilt luxury homes is truly beyond their ability to grasp.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS

5M home. vs. 5M commercial rental unit

The value of the rental unit will be more than 5M.

Cali tried to eliminate Prop 13 on commercial buildings recently and was voted down.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (JkCto)

270 @239 zombie-If I remember correctly you're familiar with San Fran/Bay Area. You and others familiar with Market Street in SF at 3-5 in the morning know exactly what I'm talking about. I always called it crackhead slalom.

Posted by: JROD at July 15, 2025 03:55 PM (IlL6s)

271 Here's a funny scenario. Tom Hank's $26 Million mansion was saved due to a massive amount of fire retardant materials and extra costs to provide water features.

His mansion stands as it always has. BUT, he's about to be sitting in the middle of a Low Income neighborhood.

Nice save, Tommy.

Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (dIske)

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"The Gump Dump" has a nice ring to it ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 15, 2025 03:55 PM (bSjm6)

272 "Read the whole thing."

I did read the whole thing, several days ago, when it was posted on HotAir. Jeez Ace, maybe it's a slow news day, but can't you do better than copying their homework from last week?

Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (aGKc9)

273 "The Gump Dump" has a nice ring to it ...
Posted by: ShainS

Golf clap

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (4IClK)

274 This is far worse than a few % tax on tea.

Perhaps it is time to revisit the 13 colonies' attitude toward overweening government.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (L5An7)

275 These worthless democrat cocksuckers are getting exactly what they voted for and they're getting it nice and hard.

_|__________________ <--my give a fuck meter

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)

276 No. I've told this here before, but the "natives" are denying permits because they see it as their big chance to actually make good on the "land acknowledgements" and kick out the haoles. The (D) governor tried to make them issue permits and the ACLU sued him for "fascist genocide". A federal judge agreed. Now it will never be rebuilt and the native Hawaiians are just waiting for people to give up and sell them the land for pennies on the dollar.
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This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out? Managers get paid.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (W3T6M)

277 Governments seem to have moved on from taxation being a necessary source of state revenue to taxation being a tool to punish people the state doesn't like.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (2ap+5)

278 Unpopular take: CDs are sufficient resolution and you don't need to upgrade.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (dfIr7)

279 234 Newsom has really mastered the Peter Strzok slime ball shoulder shimmy.
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Newsom just called Chaya of Libs of Tik Tok a "shit poster." Classy.

Posted by: beckster at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (NLtte)

280 _|__________________
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)

On the contrary I give a fuck. I love it!!!

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (Qr870)

281 I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.

HDR works really well on OLED screens and poorly on everything else. (It's especially miserable on LCD, which has no contrast).

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (2ocoG)

282 Theyre gambling Trump and the feds step in and save LA from spending a dime on helping rebuild. No way they suffer that horrendous backlash and bad press stealing those homes.

Posted by: Shortchanged at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (WbcL6)

283 They shut down a taco shop in NM or Ariz. Owner all workers arrested. Owner also illegal. Big house, many guns.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (cn0nj)

284 I still say both of Carolla's self produced movies are 3.5 stars out of 4.

I do recall though someone here saying the hated The Hammer. I don't understand that at all.

Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (VofaG)

285 279 Governments seem to have moved on from taxation being a necessary source of state revenue to taxation being a tool to punish people the state doesn't like.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (2ap+5)

Obama openly said something to that effect. He was talking about raising marginal tax rates, I believe, and he said something like "even if we bring in less revenue, I don't care." (unfortunately google is enshittified to the point where I can't find the exact quote and am going off memories from like 2010).

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (uCjyK)

286 Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?

doubtful

Posted by: brak at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (jGJov)

287 Cash Jordan.

https://is.gd/tri4jX

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (cn0nj)

288 I'm starting to think these man made disaster fires (or most of them) are the "climate change" Greta has been yelling about.

I do not think for one hot second that the Helene NC and TN flooding was "man made." It's happened before, I learned last year, from hurricanes hitting somewhere on the Gulf.

Camp Mystic was built on a flood plain. I would not build on a flood plane if the last flood was 100yrs ago. So I don't think that was "man made."

I don't think the flooding in NYC is "man made." I have read of flooding in subways before, which gives me the willies as sometimes it was bad enough when dry. We did take them, however, in the distant past. The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.

I hope this helps turn California RED. I hope this blows up Newscum's future!

The fires in Hawaii and, at least some, in LA were homeless meth head made. Maybe they were paid by someone. Maybe they simply all need to be rounded up and put in asylums. Maybe Bass paid them so she could do this. I will start this rumor!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)

289 The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (Qr870)

290 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

I changed my mind a tiny bit on HDR btw. If I crank the settings up on my projector, the HDR picture becomes somewhere between good and very good. It's stupid because it still has to be calibrated movie by movie which is very very dumb, but I think that's because I didn't want to pay double for a projector that handles it more consistently.
Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 03:52 PM (Qr870)

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Dolley and I watched the Hunger Games prequel yesterday over our streaming digital footlocker.

The HDR on the 4K stream made it...so dark. It was weird. First HDR I've seen make the image darker. The HD was much brighter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

291 Keep it up and they'll call you a troll.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM (3k+jV)

I get called a troll all the time, amongst other things.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (uCjyK)

292 Sounds like DataRepublican is getting ready to drop a nuke of her own on NGOs and the money trail.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 03:48 PM (viF8m)

The teaser is that it is able to track the kickbacks, and the previously untraceable subsequent sub-grants.

She must have the entire dataset available to her.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (D7oie)

293 The low-income housing is for the neighborhoods and hills around the coast. A lot of people will lose their houses, but some will eventually be allowed to rebuild in those subdivision type neighborhoods in the Palisades.

But those people whose houses are right on the beach in Malibu are probably screwed.

I watched the video Adam Carolla did a few weeks ago giving a tour around the beach and some of the work that had to be done to rebuild there (a lot of pylons covered in concrete & rebar).

A lot of those houses will probably never get a permit to rebuild due to the environmental wackos wanting the beaches to be clear all the way the to the highway.

If they are allowed to rebuild it's probably going to take five years or more to finish the construction.

People will say "Screw it." and move.
Which is what the city and state wanted anyhow.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (6ydKt)

294 This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out?

They just want the land. Check out the story upthread about the real Japanese and the airport.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (2ocoG)

295 And thats the point. They want you to shut up. They really, really want to control who says what. Keep it up and they'll call you a troll.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 03:57 PM

This is not exactly Hyde Park. Not all opinions are welcome. The internet is vast, Joe. Explore it.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (jc0TO)

296 They shut down a taco shop in NM or Ariz. Owner all workers arrested. Owner also illegal. Big house, many guns.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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ICE raids during siesta always work.

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (UjdFS)

297 Where's the royalty check for use of our plan?

Posted by: Lahaina at July 15, 2025 04:00 PM (D0HYP)

298 Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 03:56 PM (aGKc9)

What is the name of your blog? I would love to see how you have covered this issue.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (L5An7)

299 293 There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

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I've watched more than this movie on this TV with HDR. It might be a bad encode on the stream. I need to throw in the disc to see if it replicates there.

If I were gonna spend money to upgrade my system, I'd go with a TV that does Dolby Vision.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)

300 Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?
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No, I think they move to Denver or Austin and within a few days are sufficiently bored enough to wonder how they can helps schedule drag shows at the public library and whether their new home city has free needles for the local addicts.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (TN0g+)

301
HDR works really well on OLED screens and poorly on everything else. (It's especially miserable on LCD, which has no contrast).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 03:58 PM (2ocoG)

Makes a lot of sense

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (Qr870)

302 I don't think the flooding in NYC is "man made." I have read of flooding in subways before, which gives me the willies as sometimes it was bad enough when dry. We did take them, however, in the distant past. The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)

It's been heavily raining on and off for days, and the subway system is, after all, underground. And it's 100 years and maintained about as well as you'd expect, so the pumps get overwhelmed / break pretty regularly.

Oh, and in much of the city (less so in Manhattan) sewage and street drains go to the same pipes, so even if the subway system is able to pump the water out, it has nowhere to go during heavy rain storms.

So the subway tunnels flood. Occasionally. And usually only in low spots.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (uCjyK)

303 And the low-income apartments will come at a unit cost of at least a million bucks, optimistically.

"Subsidized low-income housing" is a racket.
Doubly so in California.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (eS/6S)

304 CBC top of the hour. Wildfires.

A competent government would have taken money from the stash and bought a few hundred firefighting planes and trained people.

This has been going on 4 years.

President Trump should slap an extra 5% tariffs on Canada just for the air pollution affecting the US.

Posted by: Stateless - HAPPY NOT HOMELESS! - New Life Creation 11.3 % at July 15, 2025 04:02 PM (jvJvP)

305 Addressing the concerns of homeowners at a recent community meeting, Barger told them, "You have lost so much, you shouldn't have to worry about permitting fees getting in the way of rebuilding your home. For most families, these fees may have exceeded $20,000. That's a barrier we cannot allow to stand."
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20 grand in *permitting*?!

How?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)

306 297 This sounds spot on but how do the Hawaiian Japanese make out?

They just want the land. Check out the story upthread about the real Japanese and the airport.
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When I lived in Oahu, the Japs run all the business. Is there a new management class working in HI?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (W3T6M)

307 Water goes downhill.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (cn0nj)

308 "It adds expenses that we didn't expect. Like, solar is required on all new builds, and so is the easement from the property line. It's got to be five feet now and ours was only three," says Toomey, as she stands under a backyard oak tree that survived.
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I wonder which solar industry racketeers got that juicy regulation imposed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)

309 It is so depressing. Signs throughout Altadena on cleared lots and in front of intact homes: "Altadena is Not for Sale". My local printer has had her business broken into twice in the last 2 weeks -- no policing. She still has no air conditioning. The burned out buildings next to her and in the surrounding blocks still not cleared.

Posted by: la2la at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (NGv4m)

310 311 Water goes downhill.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (cn0nj)

That it does.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (uCjyK)

311 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (L5An7)

If I just have to copy posts from other blogging sites, I could start tomorrow. I know you're just defending the boss, I get it, but damn, Beege posted this story on Friday.

Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (aGKc9)

312 Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.

It's actually not a gimmick. On a good display it's a better upgrade to overall quality than 4K.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (2ocoG)

313 Not often am I proved correct within twenty posts.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM

You are a master of the trite and obvious.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (jc0TO)

314 Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (3k+jV)

You have more sand in your vagina than Palisades beach.

Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (VofaG)

315 303 Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?

Even Hawaii, which is massively in the D camp, has about 40% of the population voting for conservatives.

Being that the middle class is pretty well squeezed out of the state, that's absolutely amazing.

In all these places, there are a lot of people who didn't "Vote for this". (Another example is Illinois, which is basically dark red except for Chicago.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (N1DT3)

316 I wonder which solar industry racketeers got that juicy regulation imposed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (eS/6S)

I imagine it was Solar City / Tesla. They were / are the big player in CA and had / have a lot of lobbyists.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (uCjyK)

317 There are probably settings or modes making your HDR "dynamic" and adjusting on the fly, which can cause odd results. I'm not a fan of any of the dynamic shit.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

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I've watched more than this movie on this TV with HDR. It might be a bad encode on the stream. I need to throw in the disc to see if it replicates there.

If I were gonna spend money to upgrade my system, I'd go with a TV that does Dolby Vision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
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DV is better than the HRD version (HDR10+?) but it's also dynamic and depends in part on the encoding on the dics (or streaming feed). All of this is just another tech but it depends on the content and mixing in the source material. A lot of the mixing is crap.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)

318 316 Exactly. It's mostly a gimmick and a bad one.

It's actually not a gimmick. On a good display it's a better upgrade to overall quality than 4K.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (2ocoG)

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There are some cinematographers and directors who think it's a gimmick and make the HDR essentially just a shell for the SDR image.

Robert Eggers, for instance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)

319 >>Not often am I proved correct within twenty posts.

You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)

320 I hope this helps turn California RED. I hope this blows up Newscum's future!

The fires in Hawaii and, at least some, in LA were homeless meth head made. Maybe they were paid by someone. Maybe they simply all need to be rounded up and put in asylums. Maybe Bass paid them so she could do this. I will start this rumor!
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 03:59 PM (6PCLE)

Newscums future is a waste for a large number of reasons, so at least we got that going for us. Hoping for any good results of California voting is futile, because the voting system has become so systemically corrupt that the people there no longer are allowed to do any voting, not in any real sense.
Seriously, when the corruption in California voting is explained, any sane person will say "that isn't possible, that can't be legal, can it?" Well yes it is, and it guarantees one party rule.
Democrat Party operative are allowed to collect and fill out tens of thousands of ballots themselves, without the voter ever having seen them. Legal in California.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (uWKK8)

321 The very long and tedious process, which is beginning to look as if it's specifically designed to soak as much money out of the homeowner as possible before they give up in disgust and move elsewhere.
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Yes and no. It's designed to soak money out of the builder, period. In this case, the builder happens to be a homeowner.

Like all artificial barriers, these are in place to ensure that the anointed and connected - whether builder or purchaser - can play. The builder has to know how and who to grease, and to afford the grease. The purchaser has to pay for all the grease at all levels.

If you're not rich or connected or both, you're frozen out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (eS/6S)

322 In all these places, there are a lot of people who didn't "Vote for this". (Another example is Illinois, which is basically dark red except for Chicago.)
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Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)

323 I have some opinions that wouldn't be necessarily welcome here, so I don't post them. I'm not here to convert, I am here to be amused.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (jc0TO)

324 When I lived in Oahu, the Japs run all the business. Is there a new management class working in HI?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:03 PM (W3T6M)

Hawaii is the only state that is not majority white.

It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)

325 April 16, 2008 Democratic Debate

Charlie Gibson:
“In each instance when the [capital gains] rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. The government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28%, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?”

Barack Obama:
“Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.”

Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (2ap+5)

326 At what point...

should we start saying that anyone who can afford to leave CA, and doesn't, has only him/herself to blame?

Are people staying in CA because they think it will get... BETTER?

All historical analyses are imperfect, and they break down completely in time, but CA reminds me of the French Revolution a bit. The normals assumed it HAD to get better, right? Right?

Like the DEM Party itself, I submit that CA has reached a tipping point now. The governing class keeps getting dragged further & further left. I see nothing to stop that trend, until the arrival of chaos-- a breakdown of all the public amenities & services that normals take for granted.

Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (kd60y)

327 Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)

Hence the "basically".

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)

328 323 >>Not often am I proved correct within twenty posts.

You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)

No we don't.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (CzMNg)

329 The only one that flipped me out was Penn Station once, and the one to the Bronx to see the Botanical Gardens...when you have a moose limb cab driver (from the station) telling you it is "unsafe" you sort of believe him.
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Reminds me of former co-worker who spent a year or so in Iraq as a dod civilian employee. Whoever they went anywhere they had army escourts with guns to share. Said they were driving through some shithole and their terp shrunk down low, "Oooh, this is bad neighborhood".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (/lPRQ)

330 So blot as in Soviet Russia?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (cn0nj)

331 321 DV is better than the HRD version (HDR10+?) but it's also dynamic and depends in part on the encoding on the dics (or streaming feed). All of this is just another tech but it depends on the content and mixing in the source material. A lot of the mixing is crap.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (iFTx/)

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Yeah, but I've just consistently read that problems people have with color and light on HDR layers get fixed with the Dolby Vision layer.

It's like any authoring and encoding from the advent of the digital age on. It can be good. It can be bad.

Just because LOTR's DVD looked great didn't mean that Ballistics Ecks vs Sever was gonna look good.

Same with Dark City's HDR looking great vs. Hunger Games prequel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

332 Well, East St. Louis would like to have a word with you.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (W3T6M)

Hence the "basically".
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)

You can usually toss in the University towns as well, but even they aren't deep blue like Chicago.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (N1DT3)

333 Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (2ap+5)

God damn, that was some great google-fu.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (uCjyK)

334 It won't be 'low cost' housing. It'll be million dollar condos owned by one of two FIRE firms renting them out. The 'low cost' units will be give-aways for show.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (mlg/3)

335 323 You aren't right. People argue here daily, on virtually every thread. It's kind of the point.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 15, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)

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No it isn't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

336 Think any of these homeowners will get redpilled and stop voting dem every time once they give up rebuilding and move to Denver or Austin or wherever?

I think it depends on the people . The left wing media does not have a lock on news anymore so when they see their politicians not giving a darn they may move , but still they may think " I've had it with Democrats. " It does happen. I got red pilled and I was not having to deal with the criminal ineptitude of D. politicians after a fire.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (2GCMq)

337 ((solar is required on all new builds))

___________________________________

Wow, I didn't know that. That seems to be overreach LMAO. It, also, seems to be a government entity conspiring against providers of other forms of energy. I could see how they can get away with requiring the installation to some extent. But, I don't even the State of California can mandate its use. That pesky ole' Fifth Amendment of the Constitution states under Property Rights that you can generate you own energy.

Posted by: Orson at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (dIske)

338 No it isn't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:07 PM

This is simple negation. I paid for an argument.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (jc0TO)

339 I don't get this about floods.

I have seen floods in unexpected places for the past 60 years. I remember growing up, it seemed every year some country in S.E Asia was loosing a few hundred thousand to floods.
Floods happen.
Look at the radar maps and you will see these deep red spots of 2" or 4" or more of rain per hour - they are usually small, but if they hit your valley or something upstream, you will flood.

This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (S6/Nv)

340 California is sunny.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (cn0nj)

341 Hawaii is the only state that is not majority white.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:06 PM (N1DT3)

For now.

Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)

342 This is simple negation. I paid for an argument.
Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:08 PM (jc0TO)

You most certainly did not

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (N1DT3)

343 You have to go out of your way for HDR content just as much as you do for full 4K content.

The streaming services have 4K/HDR on some stuff, but you have to pay extra for it.

I think HBO Max has 4K/HDR automatically if the source is in 4K and it detects your screen is capable.

It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (6ydKt)

344 It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)

345 348 It is majority Asian-descent. So it would be still mostly run by Asians.
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It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)

Make Hawaii Polynesian Again!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (uCjyK)

346 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.

Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)

347 This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
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Objection! Assumes "experts" are attempting competence rather than propaganda.

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (TN0g+)

348 It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM (W3T6M)

There's a lot of Philipinos, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese and other assorted countries as well.

There's a monument to the (a?) founder of Taiwan on Maui.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (N1DT3)

349 350 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)

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Most Hispanics consider themselves white, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

350 I know you're just defending the boss, I get it, but damn, Beege posted this story on Friday.

Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:04 PM (aGKc9)

Ace isn't my boss, and I am not defending him. I am calling you out for being a jerk. If you don't like the timeliness of the content, then leave.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (L5An7)

351 Speaking of Polynesians, I've been reading a few books on the subject this summer.

It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (uCjyK)

352 Texas counts white hispanics iirc.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (cn0nj)

353 The only thing worse on here than taking yourself too seriously is taking the other people to seriously.

Posted by: ... at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (Qr870)

354 For the lower income homeowners whose houses did not burn -- no help. One person I know of is digging up the toxic soil on her property by herself. Army Corps said it wouldn't help because she didn't lose her home. Her insurance adjuster said it would have been better if her house had burned down. She still has thousands of dollars of repairs to do and the insurance covered less than 1/3.

Posted by: la2la at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (NGv4m)

355 Make Hawaii Polynesian Again!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:10 PM

Per my haole brother, there are barely any Polynesians to be seen there anymore.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (jc0TO)

356 California is sunny.
Posted by: Boss Moss
......

Unless it's foggy.

Posted by: wth at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (UjdFS)

357 There are some cinematographers and directors who think it's a gimmick and make the HDR essentially just a shell for the SDR image.

Which is funny because the best filmed HDR content I've seen has been on YouTube shot on iPhones. Concert bootlegs in particular are the killer app for HDR. The bright stage lights and pyro effects don't blow out the image with HDR, so you can still see all the other detail. John Wick 4 on Apple TV+ was a good transfer also, but Hollywood's been very hit and miss on it.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (2ocoG)

358 Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)

Something like 40% of TX is Hispanic.

But I have no idea what that actually means, given that a bunch of Hispanics are or consider themselves to be White. Hispanic is kind of a dumb classification.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (CzMNg)

359 356 Texas counts white hispanics iirc.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (cn0nj)

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Also, Hispanic isn't a race. Most Hispanics consider themselves white.

The descendants of Cortez don't really think of themselves as much more than European descended.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

360 Also, I don't think that's even true now. CA and TX come to mind. CA is a plurality hispanic, and I believe TX is as well.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)

The fun part is that "Hispanic" is not a distinct racial group, and it gets less and less so each year. It used to be people who spoke Spanish at home, but now it's mainly white people who have a Spanish sounding last name.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (uWKK8)

361 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)

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Most Hispanics consider themselves white, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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Upper class Hispanics definitely consider themselves white. They consider lower class hispanics something other than white, though. Funny that. As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)

362 Listen people, the law is the law. We can't just make exceptions because of a fire. These laws are there to protect the public. The permitting process is vital and can not be shortchanged.

Wait a sec. I got to handle this phone call.
What? Sure, let the "newcomers" fly without ID. And naw, we aint got time to oversee the housing or do the bid process on the NGOs. Just hand out the money fast, this is an emergency!

Posted by: The Leftists in Charge at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (S6/Nv)

363 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKb

How come you never mentioned James Clavell was a director and not just a novelist?

He would have been the last person I'd guess that directed To Sir, With Love.

Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (VofaG)

364 If Newsom was smart, which he is not, he would have someone plant a few old Indian bones here and there. He could then declare it an ancient very SACRED native American burial site. Try getting that past a permitting committee.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)

365 350 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.
Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (VofaG)

According to slightly outdated numbers on wiki: 40% white, 40% hispanic, 12% black, then the rest.

Google's AI says 39% white, 41% hispanic, although that seems like splitting hairs.

So like I said, it's not majority white (50%+ of the population isnt white) and it's a plurality hispanic (the largest ethnic group in TX is hispanic, followed by whites)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (uCjyK)

366 358 It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.

I wonder if they'll hit a point where most eyes can't tell. Like ears with analog vs digital. I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (pb1DT)

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We're essentially there.

You have to be within a few feet to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p content on a commonly sized screen (60-80 inches) most of the time. There will be exceptions (Dunkirk is just...gorgeous, but that's probably because of the IMAX source more than anything else).

There will be attempts to advance it further, but it'll really be for theaters and just showy home theater stuff like full wall screens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)

367 The topic is still relevant no matter the age of the article.

Ace will be able to come back to this L.A. rebuilding story for years.

He's not exactly trying to break news on CNN here.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (6ydKt)

368 Per my haole brother, there are barely any Polynesians to be seen there anymore.
Posted by: toby928

Only on Niihau, I think.

Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (77rzZ)

369 He came dancing across the water
With his galleons and guns
Looking for the new world
And the palace in the sun

Posted by: Cortez The K. at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (TN0g+)

370 Texas is majority white by a good percentage.

They're loud by a good majority. Absolutely the loudest people I've ever heard.

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (pb1DT)

371 367 How come you never mentioned James Clavell was a director and not just a novelist?

He would have been the last person I'd guess that directed To Sir, With Love.

Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (VofaG)

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*shrugs*

I guess I just didn't know.

I do own To Sir, With Love, though. In 4K even.

It was part of a Columbia Classics set. It's a pretty good movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

372 Did someone get nuked?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)

373 It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.

It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)

374 Another interesting trend in what you may call the lower classes is the intermarriage of blacks and hispanics. I'm not sure what they call themselves, but I think ZZ Topp wrote a song about it.
Anyway the number of "pure" black kids keeps dropping every year, in part because of this.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uWKK8)

375 372 Did someone get nuked?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)

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Todd.

Fucking Todd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

376 I'm shocked, shocked....well not that shocked. California is as California does.

Posted by: Farquad at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (yqgaV)

377 It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead

The Honolulu Whorehouse Hironos.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (4IClK)

378 Only on Niihau, I think.
Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM

I think that's the one place he's met them. He tells a funny story about that and since he sometimes lurks, he might share it rather than be butchering the tale.

Posted by: toby928 at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (jc0TO)

379 20 grand in *permitting*?!

Paid to Public Sector Employees who you have already paid to do their job.

Posted by: garrett at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (v4Xg4)

380 Upper class Hispanics definitely consider themselves white. They consider lower class hispanics something other than white, though. Funny that. As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)

The upper class of most central and southern american countries is white of European descent.

But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.

In the US, we just lump them all together.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uCjyK)

381 Ace isn't my boss, and I am not defending him. I am calling you out for being a jerk. If you don't like the timeliness of the content, then leave.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 15, 2025 04:11 PM (L5An7)

And you are not my boss, I'll call it like I see it. Ace loves to dish it out, if he can't handle taking a little back when warranted, not my problem.

Posted by: toddg at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (aGKc9)

382 Did someone get nuked?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (cn0nj)

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Todd.

Fucking Todd.

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Todd's cool!

Posted by: Butthead at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (TN0g+)

383 It will become more common in the next decade, and then 8K Mini-LED will be the new thing.

I wonder if they'll hit a point where most eyes can't tell. Like ears with analog vs digital. I can't tell the difference.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:12 PM (pb1DT)

=======

We're essentially there.

You have to be within a few feet to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p content on a commonly sized screen (60-80 inches) most of the time. There will be exceptions (Dunkirk is just...gorgeous, but that's probably because of the IMAX source more than anything else).

There will be attempts to advance it further, but it'll really be for theaters and just showy home theater stuff like full wall screens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:14 PM (GBKbO)
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I agree but it depends on the quality of the source content. I despise streaming because of the often-sketchy quality. I watch only 4K discs (and BR where 4K isn't available). You can definitely tell the difference b/t 4K disc content on a 4K TV (where the entire pipeline is 4K) as compared to 1080p.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)

384 Back again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (cn0nj)

385 380 The upper class of most central and southern american countries is white of European descent.

But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.

In the US, we just lump them all together.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (uCjyK)

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When it comes to things like census and polling, though, it's almost all self-reporting.

Which causes one to wonder if anyone's trying to "control" for a meaningless label that those assigned to it don't actually want any part in.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

386 no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Like sailors throughout history, they followed the birds. When they saw birds they knew there had to be land in that direction.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (S6/Nv)

387 I've carefully avoided finding out what it meant to have a momma who's mizzikin and a daddy who's an ace of spades.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (2ap+5)

388 355 Speaking of Polynesians, I've been reading a few books on the subject this summer.

It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
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Watched a show on the Amazon. Turns out the indigenous people of the Amazon came from New Guinea and Australia. Seems Kon Tikki was correct. They estimate this happened 12,000 years ago. I have no idea how big the Pacific was 12k years ago.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (W3T6M)

389 But I have no idea what that actually means, given that a bunch of Hispanics are or consider themselves to be White. Hispanic is kind of a dumb classification.

Hispanic is made up. Spaniards are literally Caucasian Europeans. A lot of them are nearly as white as Ace.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (2ocoG)

390 A British family went on a trip to France and got ~~a surprise.~~ some direct cultural enrichment.

https://tinyurl.com/zy5cwmm8

LOL

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (/U5Yz)

391 It was Japs, Hawaiians and Samoans. The Japs ran everything not owned by DoD.
Posted by: pudinhead

The Honolulu Whorehouse Hironos.
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The Los Angeles Dodger's farm team?

Posted by: Crusader at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (TN0g+)

392 In the US, we just lump them all together..

We all look the same to them ?

Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (pb1DT)

393 This is the nature of floods. Suddenly now it is caused by SUVs?
Why are no experts in the field shooting this down before the idea takes hold. We have forgotten everything.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:09 PM (S6/Nv)

When you get 20" of rain or more in one day, on already saturated ground, all that water has to go somewhere. In the case of the NC Mountains it went down. In the case of sandy soil in FL it rises and then flows naturally.

NC had a cold front with 4" of rain. It then met Helene with up to 30" of rain and the water had no where to go. Similar story of a lotta rain in Texas in a day or so.

I have experienced 22" of rain in a day. It is unreal, even without flooding. Imagine a fire hose on your roof type rain...seriously.

But I have read the recent rain in Texas was man made. I don't think so! In NM they have arroyos. Mostly dry until a lotta rain. Same with slot canyons in national parks. People read the signs and get caught anyway.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (6PCLE)

394 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (GYt5+)

395 Democrats have perfected the art of prospering from failure.

The worse they govern, the more powerful and richer they become.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (j6Ika)

396 383 I agree but it depends on the quality of the source content. I despise streaming because of the often-sketchy quality. I watch only 4K discs (and BR where 4K isn't available). You can definitely tell the difference b/t 4K disc content on a 4K TV (where the entire pipeline is 4K) as compared to 1080p.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)

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Yeah, my discs do tend to look better than the streams.

And IMAX footage is just...gorgeous in 4K.

They Odyssey, 100% filmed in IMAX, is gonna look bangin' on my home screen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

397 Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.

It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)

They've done models on this -- starting with canoes / primitive wooden boats on islands and see how many would hit land on other islands based on wind and currents.

It was astronomically low. Like almost none. And some islands that would never be hit by any boat regardless of where it launched from due to the way the winds and currents work in the Pacific. And yet people were living there when the Europeans showed up.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)

398 373 It's so fascinating to me how they managed to settle / colonize / whatever so many islands so far apart from each other, and to this day, no one can really say how the fuck they did that.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Same way the Greeks did - when you suffer over-population pile a bunch of people onto boats and off you go. Good luck!
Some found land, others not so much.

It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)

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I think it's basically because once every few generations a large group within the island get tired of the man and his B.S., and the system hassling them, jump in their boats with friends & family and sail east until the see birds and hit land.

Keep doing that for a few thousand years and you hit New Zealand.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (6ydKt)

399 The Austronesian language family started on the island of Formosa. Then folks from Formosa spread that language family from Madagascar to Easter Island.

One of the more incredible migrations in human history.

Posted by: Bulg at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (77rzZ)

400 It was the Micronesians that could navigate the Pacific.
Polynesians were largely on one way trips unless they had a Micronesian with them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:16 PM (/lPRQ)

Someone once, might have been Thor Heyerdahl wondering how they could have navigated by the stars whenever there were storms, or overcast. But he was working with some of them, learning how they sailed, and he found out that the Polynesians knew the sky so well that even on a badly overcast night, they just had to see one star for a few minutes and they could figure out exactly where they were.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (uWKK8)

401 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 15, 2025 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

It's a great movie IMO. Clavell also wrote the screenplay to The Great Escape.

Posted by: polynikes at July 15, 2025 04:20 PM (VofaG)

402 Watched a show on the Amazon. Turns out the indigenous people of the Amazon came from New Guinea and Australia. Seems Kon Tikki was correct. They estimate this happened 12,000 years ago. I have no idea how big the Pacific was 12k years ago.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:18 PM (W3T6M)

Pacific was the same size as today. But also, that's very ... not accepted by the mainstream (although possible).

They think the original Polynesians originated somewhere on the Indian subcontinent and made their way to New Zealand before somehow spreading out over tens of thousands of miles to find tiny islands in the Pacific.

Which is ... just hard to wrap your mind around.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (uCjyK)

403 As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 15, 2025 04:13 PM (iFTx/)
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No, Elric, we have an Empire of Ghettoes Problem.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (W3T6M)

404 But large portions of the population are mixed (mestizo) or indigenous (depending on the country. Argentina, for example is almost 100% white, Guatamala is 40% or so) or, of course, black descendants of slaves.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

This is a very sensitive subject (it makes them tetchy? that word is not used enough.)

So "officially" they say there are no races. No blacks, no natives, no Europeans. But lately the "indigenous" want their special status as the people who got all their land stolen from them by whitey. And black want their due as victims of slavery (Why are they all so eager to say their ancestors are losers?) so it is coming to the fore.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (S6/Nv)

405 Is this where we start discussing Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World and whether it's as good as it's made out to be?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (6ydKt)

406 Pacific was the same size as today. But also, that's very ... not accepted by the mainstream (although possible).
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Drop the Pacific by 400 feet and show me what it looks like. Bet a shit ton of islands appear.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:23 PM (W3T6M)

407 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

Thanks! This is the kind of logic we need.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (S6/Nv)

408 Like sailors throughout history, they followed the birds. When they saw birds they knew there had to be land in that direction.
Posted by: bob

My luck, I'd follow the birds who don't hit land for their first six years...

Posted by: rickb223 at July 15, 2025 04:24 PM (4IClK)

409 Which is ... just hard to wrap your mind around.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 15, 2025 04:21 PM (uCjyK)

For us.

For them the ocean was everything and they we're good sailors.

It's theorized they made it all the way to Chile after Easter Island.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (6ydKt)

410 Good news, everyone!

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 15, 2025 04:25 PM (L/fGl)

411 They think the original Polynesians originated somewhere on the Indian subcontinent and made their way to New Zealand before somehow spreading out over tens of thousands of miles to find tiny islands in the Pacific.
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What I've heard is the Māori are actually descended from the indigenous inhabitants of Formosa. They got pushed out by the Chinese.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (W3T6M)

412 Fantastic Four skins are coming to Fortnite

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So how's The Invisible Girl's skin going to work?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 15, 2025 04:26 PM (6ydKt)

413 white Hispanics

The DEMs made an awful mistake by assuming these voters would accept inclusion among "black and brown people."

On a somewhat related topic, Mexican illegal aliens are NOT a representative sample of all Mexicans. They are dark skinned people from southern Mexico, for the most part.

Posted by: mnw at July 15, 2025 04:27 PM (kd60y)

414 I think it wasn't too long ago the CA DOJ and Gov. Hairgel promised to prosecute any real estate agents that unfairly lowballed the homeowners in the fire zone. Now the state will lowball them and turn around and sell the new low income housing tractor to developer. Heck of a scam right there.

Posted by: RichJ at July 15, 2025 04:29 PM (N+PhT)

415 Micronesias had maps of ocean swells caused by the various atolls and seamounts. Color of clouds above tolls differes from open ocean.

Recently, maybe still, you'd have them jump into a boat and go visit relatives hundreds of miles away.

Then you have the various stars, birds, etc.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 15, 2025 04:30 PM (/lPRQ)

416 I ask ChatGPT, "Why do low-income people never qualify for low-income housing?

Here is what it says:

This is a painful irony that many people face: low-income people often don’t qualify for low-income housing due to a combination of systemic, bureaucratic, and economic barriers. Here are the most common reasons why:

1. Minimum Income Requirements
Many subsidized or income-restricted housing programs still require a minimum income to ensure tenants can afford rent—even if it's reduced.

Why this happens: Property managers need to be sure that rent (even subsidized) will be paid. If someone’s income is too low—even if they qualify by poverty standards—they may be denied for being “too poor.”

2. Extremely Long Waitlists
Demand for low-income housing vastly exceeds supply, especially in major cities.

Result: Many people wait years or even decades for housing assistance (like Section 8 vouchers or public housing).

Some waitlists are closed entirely because they’re overwhelmed.

3. Strict Eligibility Criteria
Eligibility is often based on more than just income:

Credit history: Poor or no credit can disqualify applicants.

Criminal background: Certain charges—even old or minor ones

Posted by: Sun at July 15, 2025 04:32 PM (d4YSP)

417 I did a quick search for "Property Tax" in this page, including comments, and found nothing.

The thing is what kind of municipal government willingly and permanently destroys the cash cow of property taxes on the hundreds of luxury homes that used to be there?
Low cost housing, especially if the city ends up building and running it, isn't going to generate that kind of cash.
And the kind of local businesses that spring up to service luxury homes and wealthy people generate more tax income than the handful of McDonalds and Weed stores.

Posted by: John the River at July 15, 2025 04:35 PM (Li1E5)

418 As I've been screaming from the rooftops, we don't have a race problem in America. We have a class problem.

Yeah, people are complaining about black fatigue, but its not black people they are tired of. Its low class losers. White, black, hispanic, laotian, doesn't matter its a class issue. Its scum bags who loot stores and twerk on the ambulance and get into 3" fake nail fights and yank the weave off each other. That's not a race thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 04:40 PM (dfIr7)

419 Fantastic Four skins are coming to Fortnite

Fornite: uncut and bigger than ever

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 15, 2025 04:42 PM (dfIr7)

420 I would also like to remind everybody that 6 months ago, California passed an idiotic bill saying you WERE NOT ALLOWED to sell your property because of 'predatory companies'.

Now the state will try to force you to sell for less than those companies were offering.

Democrats are scum.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 15, 2025 04:58 PM (lCHt6)

421 I'm sure a lot of people cannot hold out, but I guarantee you there are plenty of rich Hollywood celebs who CAN and WILL.

I'm quite sure the state of CA and city of LA do not have a leg to stand on when it comes to preventing people from rebuilding their own property destroyed due to the incompetence and negligence of the gov't.

I bet they could even certify a CLASS of litigants against the city and state....

Posted by: deadrody at July 15, 2025 05:05 PM (vgB0v)

422 In my town, if your home burns down, the permit is automatic with no fees, as long as you stay in the same foot print of the original home. They even waived property taxes during the reconstruction.
By month six, the rubble was cleared, a new foundation dug and poured, first floor deck was up and some of the walls were going up.

We moved in 50 weeks after the fire.

No excuse for the BS in California.

Posted by: Astro is Asshoe at July 15, 2025 05:07 PM (/V68c)

423 500 owners should get together and plan to start rebuilding all on the same week. Then, when LA/Calif goes bonkers to stop them, they should ignore them and slap them with a ready to go Class Action lawsuit or RICO charges.

following the law doesn't work in Calif, so ignore it and sue

Posted by: YOHAN THE LIBRARIAN at July 15, 2025 05:27 PM (3TalN)

424 Governor Nuisance and Loud Mouth Bass would be perfect Cellmates in some Prison doing life for Treason and giving Aid and Comfort to the Enemy and Throw Away the Key

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at July 15, 2025 06:04 PM (wGqjj)

425 The Replacement Strategy is alive and well in California - replace successful, tax paying, mostly White landowners with illegal immigrants and homeless - who deserve an oceanfront property more than the former.

Carnac says: (1) there will be a lot more Conservatives in this liberal bastion; (2) tax paying Californians (and the rest of us) will be subsidizing the loss of tax dollars; and (3) environmentalists will ignore what the beachfront will become.

If "Gentrification" is bad, how destructive to a community, taxpayers, the environment, quality of life is "Reverse Gentrification"?

Trust me - I experienced this on a lesser scale in Columbia, the "planned community" in Maryland-fornia back in the 70's.

Posted by: Truthsayer at July 15, 2025 07:03 PM (Jj1OC)

426 If the CA government wants any of these properties, for whatever specious reason, they should be required to pay the last appraised value plus an adder for inflation. In short, what the owner was paying property tax on. Otherwise, it seems to be a violation of the takings clause, especially since the decrease in value was manufactured by the state.

Posted by: Danny Pifer at July 15, 2025 07:38 PM (C+xjW)

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As Predicted, Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass are Refusing to Allow People to Rebuild Their Houses in the Pallisades.
The Plan is to Starve Them Out and Offer Them Pennies on the Dollar for Their Property, to Build Low-Income Apartments.