Mid-Morning Art Thread

Inferno
Sarah Lucas

Why three? Because I had to look at it, and I am a big believer in sharing the pain. This was in the modern art gallery of the Tate Britain, which is an otherwise wonderful museum, filled with great British art. For some unfathomable reason, they feel that this sort of stuff deserves to be seen.

They are wrong.

This is the blurb about it.

In Inferno, two walnuts and a cigar become makeshift genitalia. The warm lightbulb glowing in the bowl suggests a fiery underworld. The toilet is an intimate place and a regular subject for Sarah Lucas. Throughout her work, everyday objects are playfully transformed to expose the mischievous, destructive and vulnerable parts of life. Humour is central to her work, often creating a sense of unease. Lucas says, ‘When humour happens, things get good. Less depressing. It's a kind of magic. Suddenly things make sense.’

Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:30 AM (+bLMA)

2 Yikes. Someone needs a colonoscopy to figure that shit out.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (2OJI2)

3 What a waste.

Of a good cigar.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (Q4IgG)

4 Ooohhhkaaay...

Posted by: Ummm at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM (XQo4F)

5 Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

Sarah should probably seek therapy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (dPfyF)

6 Last name says it all:

Lucas

Lucas Electric is the spawn of Satan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (6iQ9H)

7 Yikes. Someone needs a colonoscopy to figure that shit out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:31 AM

ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:32 AM (dPfyF)

8 Hey, this isn't the FWP thread!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (PiwSw)

9 Miss Lucas has deep and unresolved feelings about her early childhood. I'd like to study and help her.

Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (wVcYX)

10 I'd definitely piss in it, feigning ignorance.

Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:33 AM (0Id0S)

11 Oh, FFS

Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (GbwPZ)

12 fART

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (BHrzb)

13
No dog. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (HZi96)

14 And the Stop Oil people never seem to throw tomato soup on pieces like this. Wonder why that is?

Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (0Id0S)

15 Does Sarah also make paintings with her menstrual blood?

Asked no one with a lick of sanity ever.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:34 AM (6iQ9H)

16 Sarah isn't the only one who needs an intervention.

Posted by: Sarah's innumerable cats at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (XQo4F)

17 And I can smell it from here.

Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (2OJI2)

18 What a shifty exhibit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (ynpvh)

19 Miss Lucas, you know you really need some help. A regular psychiatrist couldn't even help you. You need to come to like Vienna or something. You know what I mean? You need to get involved at the University level. Like where I studied and have all these people looking at you and checking up on you. That's the kind of help you need. Not the once a week for eighty bucks. No. You need a team. A team of psychiatrists working round the clock thinking about you, having conferences, observing you, like the way they did with the Elephant Man. That's what I'm talking about because that's the only way you're going to get better.

Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM (wVcYX)

20 Shitty. Fn autocucumber

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (ynpvh)

21 It's no "Tampon in a Teacup".

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (BHrzb)

22 Camille Paglia nailed modern art over a decade ago when she called it bankrupt.

And every exhibit since has proven her point.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:36 AM (6iQ9H)

23 Oh my Lord, this is horrible!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (0nHVk)

24 Why does the toilet have to be filthy and broken? If she wanted an intimate twig and berries, why not use, say a twig and berries? Something natural and clean. Modern art doesn’t seek to entertain, it seeks to invade and disgust and repel. She thinks this is humorous?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:35 AM

I think Brits would have gotten a chuckle from the use of an actual twig and berries.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (dPfyF)

25 It’s crap like this that has ruined the concept and reputation of art since the Dadaists came along a century ago.

At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)

26 Bullsh*t. Derivative.

Posted by: Ongo Gablogian at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (PiwSw)

27 It sort of "one up" the banana taped to the wall.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (Q4IgG)

28 I'm getting more educated about art, thanks to this weekday thread. I could tell right away this wasn't a Kris post.

Posted by: Art and Farces at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (G5+As)

29 Great. Now I need a USB-C charging dongle to light my feces and I'm stuck with all these useless Lightning cords.

Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (0Id0S)

30 *Backs slowly out of room, turns, runs away screaming*

Posted by: Ty-D-Bol Man at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (wVcYX)

31 I had to make sure I wasn't on the First World Problems thread.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (NpAcC)

32 That toilet would really anger Alice from The Brady Bunch

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (Ry3Y5)

33 Posted by: Freud at July 14, 2025 09:35

I think she should be ridiculed and her “art” thrown in the dump. And then ignored.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM (2OJI2)

34 Sarah had to use a porcelain toilet because the museum refused to let her cut a hole in the floor to make it a proper loo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:39 AM (6iQ9H)

35 Modern aht is a money laundering scam.
There's the proof.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 14, 2025 09:39 AM (Aol+p)

36 Sarah should have skipped the brown acid.

Posted by: From about That Tim at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (/hiF1)

37 As far as English artists go, I much prefer John Constable to this toilet artist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (RkTHD)

38 This was in the modern art gallery of the Tate Britain

Modern art is for people who do not have talent.

Witness:

A banana duct taped to a white board.

I said what I said.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (+bLMA)

39 Shitter's full again!

Posted by: Cousin Eddie at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (wVcYX)

40 Be like your dad, not like your sis
lift the lid before you p***

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 14, 2025 09:40 AM (N39Ws)

41 Well, it’s no “Piss Christ,” that’s for sure.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (2OJI2)

42 Palate cleaner

https://tinyurl.com/yc2w3ufu

Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)

43 WTAF???!!!

BOOOOOOO!

shame on you , CBD! France made you...eccentric. Or maybe it's age..

Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (g47mK)

44 Needs some Lysol toilet bowl cleaner.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (NpAcC)

45 That urinal of Marcel Duchamp would be more appropriate, because at least it would be a French piece for Bastille Day.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (BHrzb)

46 Palate cleaner

https://tinyurl.com/yc2w3ufu
Posted by: Lizzy at July 14, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)

Thank you !! *clicks on Italian Renaissance

Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK)

47 Lizzy for Art Thread mod!

Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:42 AM (g47mK)

48 It sort of "one up" the banana taped to the wall.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 09:38 AM

Anything could have one-upped that garbage. Everybody knows you don't go taping no banana to no wall. That shit should have been stuck in a tailpipe, and the tailpipe mounted on the wall. Sheeeit...

Posted by: Axel Foley, Art Critic at July 14, 2025 09:43 AM (dPfyF)

49 C'mon, guys... it's a shitter called "inferno" and not a single Taco Bell joke yet?

Posted by: red speck at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (0Id0S)

50 Congrats, CBD. You finally found something worse than nekkid lardass on an ottoman.

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (77rzZ)

51 Literal trash. Call the garbage truck. Next.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (tOcjL)

52 Well, at least she didn't desecrate a Ferguson.

Posted by: Al Bundy at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (wVcYX)

53
Perhaps Sarah can offer up some equally humourous observations on the "playful transition" of Great Britain into an Islamic state that follows sharia law.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (xG4kz)

54 would not display

Posted by: Gref at July 14, 2025 09:44 AM (aBgBM)

55 No wonder 'artists' fear AI LLM generated art nyah

https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (6iQ9H)

56 I'd respect this more if she'd found a way to hide the power source illuminating the bowl interior. Well, not really. But that seems really sloppy and detrimental to the mystique and humor she's shooting for.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (RZ2SK)

57 Yeah, I saw the walnuts and cigar and understood the implication.

Funny?

I don't think so.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (3Rpkk)

58 I appreciate the “modern art” twist to the thread.

Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (2OJI2)

59 Where's an activist throwing orange paint when you need one?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (HFcKg)

60 I'm surprised some troll hasn't sat down on the toilet and taken a dump. Performance art!

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (Ry3Y5)

61 And here we have the latest advancement in modern enviromental toilet technology.
The "no flow" toilet.
Just put it wherever, shit in it and forget it.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (lPvx2)

62 Well, it's Monday.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (NpAcC)

63 So a representation of NYC?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (W3T6M)

64 58 I appreciate the “modern art” twist to the thread.

Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM (2OJI2)

The most modern art I go for is pop art...and I think the modernists have rejected it b/c it actually still has artistic merit...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (tOcjL)

65 Where's an activist throwing orange paint when you need one?

I'm surprised some troll hasn't sat down on the toilet and taken a dump. Performance art!

They probably guard this exhibit better than a John Constable exhibit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (6iQ9H)

66 Let's see: Rembrandt, Pre-Raphaelites, Constable, Carl Larrson, Wyeth (both NC and Andrew), Maxfield Parrish, Rockwell, even Franklin Booth and classic children's book illustrators could have been given space in the museum. Instead you have some brain dead 'artist' given space and approval by an even more brain dead board of directors.

It would be only just if someone took a dump in this 'art'. A way of saying: "You shit on us, we'll return the favor."

Posted by: JTB at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (yTvNw)

67 Be like your dad, not like your sis
lift the lid before you p***
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Sign in restaurant shitter:

We aim to please.
You aim too, please.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (+bLMA)

68 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around.
Dang. This is hilarious. First thing I'd do is leave the seat up.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (W/lyH)

69
Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched

Were you to visit any current art school and observe the shrapnel-scarred, overly inked and over weight denizens thereof, you'd know the answer.

It is "no".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:48 AM (xG4kz)

70 It's called "The Shitter".

It's what Great Britain has become. A Shitter. See also New York City, L.A. and Baltimore.

Posted by: The Shitter. at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (rfMRc)

71 Someone ate a lot of beets....that and shitty housekeeping

Posted by: night lifted at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (/YboP)

72 Seems there are several Tate Museums, including one in Liverpool that has been closed since 2023, due to lack of funds for renovation. Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Art Maven at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (G5+As)

73 Humour is central to her work, often creating a sense of unease.

When only you get the joke, it isn't a joke.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (+bLMA)

74 Actually.

The more I look at the cigar and walnuts, it becomes humorous. Too bad the filthy toilet is so repulsive. All I can think of is the GI bleed the person has going on. Or a really nasty hemorrhoid.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (2OJI2)

75 No comment until 100. Can we hurry this shit up?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:49 AM (W3T6M)

76 Could use a can of tomato soup poured all over it.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (NpAcC)

77 I appreciate the “modern art” twist to the thread.

Is there any that is not repulsive or violent?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:46 AM

Years ago the MFA had a piece in its modern "art" wing that was just a square of canvas, with the upper half painted white and the lower half painted yellow (or vice versa). I looked at my sister and said, what's this one called? Yellow and White? I looked at the tag, and sure enough, it was called Yellow White. Repulsive? No. Violent? No. Stupid AF? Yes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (dPfyF)

78
25 It’s crap like this that has ruined the concept and reputation of art since the Dadaists came along a century ago.

At that point beauty & inspiration went out the window to be replaced by shock & provocation.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)

The Dadaists have evolved into the Doodooists.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (advWG)

79
Spare Parts - a limerick

All dressed in transgender regalia
He joined a perverse bacchanalia
You may think he's gone too far
They say a cigar is just a cigar
Unless you need some makeshift genitalia!

Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (poXs5)

80 No comment until 100. Can we hurry this shit up?

Take this exhibit on the Oregon Trail, that should speed things up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (6iQ9H)

81 And even something by the modern British artist , David Hockney, would be better than pukey pink and broken toilet bowl:

https://tinyurl.com/yc6z39xa

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (RkTHD)

82 Easily a cigar that will not get a review on the gub thread.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (W/lyH)

83 If I had to critique this I'd have to say it's pretty shitty....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (VE6XX)

84 Kinda reminds me of the recurring dream I have where I'm in a public place and really have to poop, but every toilet I can find is either unspeakably nasty or exposed to public view.

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM (77rzZ)

85 The Dadaists have evolved into the Doodooists.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:50 AM (advWG)

Is all I want to say to you.

Posted by: Sting at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (wVcYX)

86 I'd like to see some urban street art. You know, where an ugly wall has been transformed into a pleasing mural or creative scene.

Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (XQo4F)

87 I remember when I was at the Tate there was a big pile of gravel in an open gallery. Renovations I guess? Wait, it's roped off...

No wait, this is an exhibit. lol

Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (jGJov)

88 The choice of "male" genitalia here is highly problematic. It underscores the artist's complete surrender to Patriarchial systems of control and oppression. At least the artist could have deigned to balance the choice with a symbol of female genitalia - Georgia O'Keefe weeps -- that would offset the toxic testoteronivitity of the current piece.

On the other hand, gay art patrons might find this stimulating, so I will grant that, given the viewer's perspective, it may not be totally without merit.

Posted by: Your Kid's Art Teacher at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (PiwSw)

89
53

I ought to have said "... favour us with ..." instead of "... offer up ..."

I hate missing opportunities to mock English spelling by actually it in postings.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (xG4kz)

90 If I had to critique this I'd have to say it's pretty shitty....

Posted by: It's me donna

Your comment identifies as #100.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (Q0+ef)

91 "‘When humour happens, things get good. Less depressing. It's a kind of magic. Suddenly things make sense."

The eloquence of this description transcends even the art itself.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (ERYKL)

92 Since this is Bastille day is this a metaphor for France ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 09:53 AM (VE6XX)

93 Would have actually been humourous if the seat was slammed on top of the twig.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:53 AM (advWG)

94 86 I'd like to see some urban street art. You know, where an ugly wall has been transformed into a pleasing mural or creative scene.

Posted by: But that's just me at July 14, 2025 09:52 AM (XQo4F)

I agree - graffiti can also be wildly better modern art than most modern art (it's probably rejected, too)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:54 AM (tOcjL)

95 I remember when I was at the Tate there was a big pile of gravel in an open gallery. Renovations I guess? Wait, it's roped off...
No wait, this is an exhibit. lol
Posted by: brak at

Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 09:54 AM (Q0+ef)

96 In this land of sand and sun, we never flush for #1!

Posted by: Every Drop Counts! at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (G5+As)

97
Now do one plugged with feminine hygiene products and overflowing water onto the floor, Sarah.

Lotsa humour there, you stupid bint.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (xG4kz)

98 56 I'd respect this more if she'd found a way to hide the power source illuminating the bowl interior. Well, not really. But that seems really sloppy and detrimental to the mystique and humor she's shooting for.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at July 14, 2025 09:45 AM (RZ2SK)

Thank you! That wiring mess is bothering me. She could have made an effort at least.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (advWG)

99 84 Kinda reminds me of the recurring dream I have where I'm in a public place and really have to poop, but every toilet I can find is either unspeakably nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:51 AM

I can help you out.

https://youtu.be/LuePe_-6C80

Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (XQo4F)

100 Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.
Posted by: BifBewalski

I remember when Prince Tampon was criticizing modern architecture back in the 80s.

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:55 AM (77rzZ)

101 You hicks just don't get it.

I don't get it either, but that's different.

Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 09:56 AM (fV+MH)

102 96 In this land of sand and sun, we never flush for #1!
Posted by: Every Drop Counts

If it’s yellow, let it mellow
If it’s brown, flush it down.

Things grampa used to say at the cabin with limited water and a septic system.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (2OJI2)

103
Since this is Bastille day is this a metaphor for France ?
Posted by: It's me donna

It would need copious amounts of merde to so qualify.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (xG4kz)

104 So how much did the "artist" get paid for this shit?

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

105 Art? Good grief. What's next, a pile of sh*t?

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (ilX37)

106 Heh, watched most of Moonstruck this weekend. It was good. Two takeways; (1) this movie made Nicolas Cage a star, and (2) Cher was not always nutty. She gave a good performance. The other takeaway is how shit house crazy things now compared to then.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 09:58 AM (W3T6M)

107 Inferno
Sarah Lucas, age 4
=================
There, ifify

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 14, 2025 09:58 AM (Gf636)

108 So how much did the "artist" get paid for this shit?
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (77rzZ)

2.6 Euros.

Posted by: USAID Down The Shitter at July 14, 2025 09:58 AM (rfMRc)

109 That'll teach you to talk about you know what nonstop !

Posted by: runner at July 14, 2025 09:59 AM (g47mK)

110 The picture was bad enough but the blurb made it even worse.
I have a particularly apt Yiddish word for this: Dreck.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 14, 2025 09:59 AM (t/2Uw)

111 Heh, watched most of Moonstruck this weekend. It was good. Two takeways; (1) this movie made Nicolas Cage a star, and (2) Cher was not always nutty. She gave a good performance. The other takeaway is how shit house crazy things now compared to then.
Posted by: pudinhead

That's one of my favorite flics. And Cher did do a good job.

"Snap out of it!"

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 09:59 AM (77rzZ)

112 Art? Good grief. What's next, a pile of sh*t?

Posted by: Case

See Brak's #87. The rock troll from The Fantastic Four crapped on the floor.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (Q0+ef)

113 traditional art is sooo Déclassé

you just wouldn't understand

(oh and you know who liked traditional art? that's right - Hitler. You reich wing haters)

Posted by: Art History Professor at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (jGJov)

114 Sarah could have used a battery powered LED light strip. But imagine having to replace that battery pack.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (6iQ9H)

115 It would need copious amounts of merde to so qualify.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 09:57 AM (xG4kz)

They seem to be sending copious amounts of merde across the channel. All those phony "asylum seekers". Which muslim countries are persecuting military aged able bodied muslim males?

Posted by: night lifted at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (/YboP)

116 113 traditional art is sooo Déclassé

you just wouldn't understand

(oh and you know who liked traditional art? that's right - Hitler. You reich wing haters)
Posted by: Art History Professor at July 14, 2025 10:00 AM (jGJov)

I had an art professor in College who sounded just like this...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (VE6XX)

117 Ooh look! My favorite place for breakfast!

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 14, 2025 10:01 AM (MFI7Z)

118 Two types of artists - ones that can paint humans and then the ones that can't.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (W3T6M)

119 You all are hilarious. At least this s***** exhibit gave you something to sharpen your wits on.

Posted by: Beverly at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (Epeb0)

120 Marcel Duchamp did this more than 100 years ago.

Sarah is not only bereft of talent, she is derivative.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (VTAje)

121 Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.

On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.

Posted by: eleven at July 14, 2025 10:02 AM (fV+MH)

122 Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
If I encountered that in the wild I'd shit at the front counter and claim I had actually cleaned the place up by putting down some fresh shit.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (lPvx2)

123 121 Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.

On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
----------------
Maybe. But in 1987 she was still hot.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)

124
I remember when Prince Tampon was criticizing modern architecture back in the 80s.
Posted by: Bulg

Pack some tampons in an opened tin meant for sardines or kippers and hawk it as a "Tribute to King Tampon III".

Your crucial decision would be: oil or water packed?

To be even more au courant, dare you consider packing them in tomato sauce, or would you decline and opt for mustard sauce instead?

Come to think of it, such a thing would be a fitting remembrance token for him when he passes on.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:04 AM (xG4kz)

125 Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
Posted by: Reforger

Did she find it like that, or nasty it up herself?

Like I said above, it reminds me of the toilets in my I-really-gotta-poop dreams.

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (77rzZ)

126 If the bowl is not cracked someone should haul it home.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (W3T6M)

127 But in 1987 she was still hot.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)

And a superb actor in this movie. Hell...everyone was great!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (VTAje)

128 Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.
On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
Posted by: eleven

Never go full retard.
- Sergeant Kirk Lazarus

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (Q0+ef)

129
Sarah is not only bereft of talent, she is derivative.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

To proclaim an artist as being derivative is as foul a descriptor as you can attach to them. The "great ego deflator", as it were.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (xG4kz)

130 128 Never go full retard.
- Sergeant Kirk Lazarus
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:05 AM (Q0+ef)

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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (GBKbO)

131 123 121 Cher can actually sound smart when she's reading someone else's words.

On her own it's FuLl rEtaRd CitY.
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Maybe. But in 1987 she was still hot.
Posted by: pudinhead

Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!

Posted by: Caesar and Cleo at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (G5+As)

132 127 But in 1987 she was still hot.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:03 AM (W3T6M)

And a superb actor in this movie. Hell...everyone was great!
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Yep. It is a jewel of a film.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:07 AM (W3T6M)

133 131 Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!
Posted by: Caesar and Cleo at July 14, 2025 10:06 AM (G5+As)

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William Friedkin, director of The Exorcist, directed the Sonny and Cher movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:07 AM (GBKbO)

134 Cher has been world famous since 1964. Y'all are just haters!
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I'm so old I remember when Sears were selling Sony and Cher sip up furry vests.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (W3T6M)

135 Yep. It is a jewel of a film.
Posted by: pudinhead

Agreed.

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)

136 Posted by: BifBewalski
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Somehow, I knew you would get that.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (Q0+ef)

137 >>>Art like that, is why London's skyline looks worse today, than at the height of Hitler bombing it in the 40s.

full of ugly modern skyscrapers funded by Qatari and Saudi money

Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (jGJov)

138 136 Posted by: BifBewalski
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You're just a dude disguised as a dude pretending to be another dude.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Somehow, I knew you would get that.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (Q0+ef)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)

139 She could have easily hidden most of the wiring underneath the toilet. The power cord could’ve been hidden by building a pedestal, running the wiring through it, and backing it up against the wall.

But since it’s obvious she threw this thing together in about three days that would’ve required too much work, and the laziness of the entire piece calls for more obvious laziness just to keep the theme going.

I’m not a teenage boy anymore, so bathroom humor no longer really appeals to me.

The sad part is this thing has probably got a sky-high price estimate on it when it’s only worth the price of the part she pulled out of a garbage heap and the cost of some led lights and a cigar.

I never really cared about the “Found Art” trend (which is what this installation basically is) but it’s been all the rage in art schools for decades.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (6ydKt)

140 The sad part is this thing has probably got a sky-high price estimate on it when it’s only worth the price of the part she pulled out of a garbage heap and the cost of some led lights and a cigar.
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My guess the art world, like Hollywood, is in business to launder money.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:10 AM (W3T6M)

141 Dunno, that seems to cry out for a sledge hammer to me . . .

Posted by: 0007 at July 14, 2025 10:10 AM (ZrNSG)

142 When a shitter pulled out of an abandoned crack house gets LED lights and is called art the world..is..fucked.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 14, 2025 10:11 AM (snZF9)

143 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)

You're a dude who doesn't get it pretending to be a dude who gets it pretending to be a dude who doesn't get it.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (lPvx2)

144 You all are hilarious. At least this s***** exhibit gave you something to sharpen your wits on.

Those who write on bathroom walls
roll their shit in little balls.
Those who read these words of wit
eat those little balls of shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (+bLMA)

145 I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate this.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (L/fGl)

146
Yawn, an Art Critique - a limerick

An over-clever clownish buffoon
A heavy-handed dim-witted goon
She must have thought we'd never
See an artist oh so clever?
But shocking Normies is just so jejune!

Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (poXs5)

147 I never really cared about the “Found Art” trend (which is what this installation basically is) but it’s been all the rage in art schools for decades.

And yet its purveyors insist it's edgy and avant garde. It became garde after DuChamp.

Posted by: James Comey at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Riz8t)

148 With their deliberately hideous exhibits, the Tate Museum has become like the whore that the self-hater pays to defecate on his face.

There's a soul sickness in Western culture.

Posted by: Beverly at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Epeb0)

149 143 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:09 AM (GBKbO)

You're a dude who doesn't get it pretending to be a dude who gets it pretending to be a dude who doesn't get it.
Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (lPvx2)

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I think I would understand this.

If I could read.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)

150 There's a soul sickness in Western culture.

Part of it. The rest is doing just fine.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (Riz8t)

151 Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
Posted by: Reforger

Tuna boats. Mechanic shops. (For the mechanics, not the customers) Truck stops.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (+bLMA)

152 It truly does always come down to bathroom humor.

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (6LBk0)

153 The artist knows her intended audience. She's making bank selling garbage to art museums.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (lUFok)

154 100 rule?

REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network

G. Maxwell commits suicide.
No evidence of foul play...

Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 10:15 AM (tm0oK)

155 I’m not a teenage boy anymore, so bathroom humor no longer really appeals to me.

**********

Let's not be hasty here. You're talking about my whole oeuvre...

Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:15 AM (poXs5)

156 There's a soul sickness in Western culture.
Posted by: Beverly

All of those people who have spent sooo much time and energy denying God's existence, sure have accepted his fallen angel without question.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:16 AM (+bLMA)

157 Amazing to me that much modern 'Art' is childish, devoid of skill and immature.

Akin to our government servants now that I think about it.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (cYBz/)

158 The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut

Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (tm0oK)

159 It truly does always come down to bathroom humor.
Posted by: Polka will never die

And bewbs.

Pull my finger.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (+bLMA)

160 Well, I see CBD has decided to plumb new depths of depravity in the world of art.

Ugh. Even my toilet at home doesn't look this bad.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (7fElN)

161 I think I would understand this.

If I could read.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 14, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)

I don't get it. How?...
Nevermind.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:17 AM (lPvx2)

162 The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
Posted by: Operator Error

Lance Armstrong.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:18 AM (+bLMA)

163 Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?
Posted by: Reforger

Taco Bell after the lunch rush.

Posted by: reason at July 14, 2025 10:18 AM (X19j8)

164 Glenn Greenwald@ggreenwald

1) One of Epstein's closest friends was former Israeli PM Ehud Barak.

2) A key source of Epstein's vast wealth, though mysterious, was from Les Wexner, whose primary life cause is Israel.

3) Ghislaine Maxwell's father - the billionaire Robert Maxwell -- was a Mossad agent who mysteriously died after that was reported. Though Maxwell was British, Israel gave him a state funeral when he died.

4) Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel.

5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech.

(Evidence below)

But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can't Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (TGPs7)

165
Paulie Walnuts wuz here!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (xG4kz)

166 The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut

The squirrel in Ice Age?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (Riz8t)

167 Posted by: Beverly at July 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Epeb0)

This was at the Tate Britain, which is a superb museum and not to be confused with the Tate Modern, which is worth visiting...once, and mostly because the building is sort of interesting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (VTAje)

168 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)

169 Literal shArt.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:20 AM (Zz0t1)

170
The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut
Posted by: Operator Error

The blind squirrel?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (xG4kz)

171 I had a John Cleese moment in the Tate London once. Bending over to look at the sig on a painting, I sensed a head close by. Someone else examining the signature.

That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (zeLd4)

172 It's embarrassing for the world that this is considered art and put on display somewhere for anyone to see.

That woman is damaged. Toxicology report required. She's pharmaceutically damaged beyond repair.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM (Zz0t1)

173 A lot of "art" is commissioned. So, someone pays for it.

I've no idea what the story is behind that piece above, but if it was commissioned the person who paid for it is nutz. The "artist" is obviously, certifiably nutz.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:22 AM (Q4IgG)

174 REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network

Probably the single most effective way to slow the Trump Train and affect the midterms is to get rid of her. And the more suspicious, the worse it would be.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 14, 2025 10:22 AM (W/lyH)

175 The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut

The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes

Did Scrat ever actually possess the nut? I know he chased it thru three films.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:22 AM (+bLMA)

176 This was at the Tate Britain, which is a superb museum and not to be xonfused with the Tate Modern, whish is worth visiting...once, and mostly because the building is sort of interesting.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I must say I did enjoy the Imperial War Museum in London. Continuing to keep the word 'War' in the title is a nice touch in this day and age. The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:23 AM (cYBz/)

177 The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:23 AM (cYBz/)

Agreed!

And there is a good pub just down the street.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:24 AM (VTAje)

178 Thanks for ruining my morning. Its like getting mugged, then deciding to go out and mug someone else, because you got mugged. Logic of the dawned, indeed.

Posted by: Please stop at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (WcEAX)

179 That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Connie Booth - "Don't mention the war."

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (cYBz/)

180 The walnuts were a nice touch, though I would have gone with one nut...you know who else had one nut

The squirrel in Ice Age?
Posted by: Archimedes

Did Scrat ever actually possess the nut? I know he chased it thru three films.

Can we ever really "possess" something, or does it possess us?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (Riz8t)

181
REPORT: Ghislaine Maxwell Ready to Testify Before Congress — Could Blow Lid Off Epstein Files and Elite Pedophile Network

Probably the single most effective way to slow the Trump Train and affect the midterms is to get rid of her. And the more suspicious, the worse it would be.
Posted by: Diogenes

I am reminded of Donnie Wahlberg pulling out a can of lighter fluid and setting the evidence audio tape on fire in "Shooter".

"This thing's plutonium!" (Or words to that effect.)

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (xG4kz)

182 178 Thanks for ruining my morning. Its like getting mugged, then deciding to go out and mug someone else, because you got mugged. Logic of the dawned, indeed.
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This is how Zombies do it.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (W3T6M)

183 I just visited Tate Britain a month ago. I made a beeline for the Turner and Constable galleries and - thankfully - entirely missed this garbage. In fact, all of the "modern" art on display that I saw on the way to the Turners looked like silly nonsense.

Posted by: JTSmith at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (YK9Am)

184 Thanks for ruining my morning.

Posted by: Please stop at July 14, 2025 10:25 AM (WcEAX)

You are very welcome!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:27 AM (VTAje)

185 I must say I did enjoy the Imperial War Museum in London. Continuing to keep the word 'War' in the title is a nice touch in this day and age. The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!

They had a pretty cool display which was a reproduction of a soldier in a deep shellhole, with suitable artillery sounds and flashes on the horizon. I wonder if it's still there.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 14, 2025 10:27 AM (Riz8t)

186 The Imperial War Museum is nice if you don't read all the captions blaming the British Empire for all the world's ills.

Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (EcHpA)

187 One nut is much more provocative than two.

Posted by: Operator Error at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (tm0oK)

188 That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Connie Booth. (68-7

Useless Trivia: Similar to Firefly, there were only 12 episodes.
Season 1 1975
Season 2 1979

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (+bLMA)

189 I guess it could be a metaphor for Biden's Presidency.

Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)

190 Connie Booth was born in Indianapolis btw.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (cYBz/)

191 186 The Imperial War Museum is nice if you don't read all the captions blaming the British Empire for all the world's ills.
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Same deal with Mount Vernon. A Whole Lotta Slave Porn going on.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (W3T6M)

192 I guess it could be a metaphor for Biden's Presidency.
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)

Alternate Title: The Liberal Mind

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)

193 I'm going to assume that "Sarah" Lucas is a troon...

Posted by: XTC at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (UnA8+)

194 The only museum I visited the one time I was in London was the Victoria and Albert.

And the only thing I remember from that was the reproduction of Trajan's Column.

Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (77rzZ)

195 Did the Trump admin really think they could just sweep the Epstein case under the rug? That’s a bigly yuuge error.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (ImXfC)

196 Can we ever really "possess" something, or does it possess us?
Posted by: Archimedes

Snaps fingers on both hands.

"Deep man. That's deep".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (+bLMA)

197 all of the "modern" art on display that I saw on the way to the Turners looked like silly nonsense.

Posted by: JTSmith at July 14, 2025 10:26 AM (YK9Am)

I think they did that on purpose to goose the views of the modern art.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:30 AM (VTAje)

198 I'm so old I remember when Sears were selling Sony and Cher sip up furry vests.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:08 AM (W3T6M)

Those were before my time, but I remember Sears.
*Hank Hill voice*
“Gawd I miss that store”

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 10:31 AM (advWG)

199 Connie Booth was born in Indianapolis btw.
Posted by: Tonypete

I did not know she was in MP & the Holy Grail.
She was the witch.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (+bLMA)

200 I can see it now; "Truckstop Toilets."

Probably on PBS.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (Q4IgG)

201 eventually the Tate Britain will be a mosque and the only art allowed in there will be geometric mosaics, but at least no light up toilets and piles of rocks

Posted by: brak at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (jGJov)

202 The Imperial War Museum is nice if you don't read all the captions blaming the British Empire for all the world's ills.

Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (EcHpA)

They redid the National Portrait Gallery, and the captions and blurbs are vile. Luckily they can't f*ck up the art!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (VTAje)

203 This is a magnificent work of art. I can only imagine the hours of work the artist put into creating it. The lighting and perspective are so realistic. Saving this to use as my computer background screen. Thanks, so much for posting it.

Needs toilet paper dispenser, though.

Posted by: mindful webworker - actually, that's $#!+ at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (+kBwA)

204 The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!

And how!!!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (advWG)

205 You can look at Stuppleart.com to look at art just a little better.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:33 AM (VofaG)

206 While in London my son pulled some strings and got me into the Albert Hall around midnight. It was surprisingly busy with someone practicing a piece on their organ. Fantastic, heavenly, magnificent - superlatives pale - the organist (and organ) were that good.

I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 14, 2025 10:34 AM (cYBz/)

207 WTF?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Pce4l)

208 I'm guessing this "artiste" is a grand master scatagories player.

🙄

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 14, 2025 10:35 AM (89Sog)

209 189 I guess it could be a metaphor for Biden's Presidency.
Posted by: Case at July 14, 2025 10:28 AM (ilX37)

Or the SCOAMF's presidential library. Contains both books he didn't write, plus all his articles from his tenure at the Harvard Law Review

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 14, 2025 10:36 AM (6LBk0)

210 Same deal with Mount Vernon. A Whole Lotta Slave Porn going on."

Yeah. Used to be a colorful interesting place. For the past decade it's drab, dull, and never ending litany of slaaaavery. And all Americans (except illegals) should feel remorse.
Daily.

Not terribly optimistic...

Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 10:36 AM (tubbA)

211 I can see it now; "Truckstop Toilets."

“And the Men Who Use Them”
-Bawack Obama

“And Why PublicFunding to Keep Them Open is Essential”
-David Fwench

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (advWG)

212 Was it something we said? If it'll help any, I'll promise never to put maple syrup on French toast ever again.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (q3u5l)

213 can't even spell my site correctly. oh well

stuppleart

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (VofaG)

214 While in London my son pulled some strings and got me into the Albert Hall around midnight. It was surprisingly busy with someone practicing a piece on their organ. Fantastic, heavenly, magnificent - superlatives pale - the organist (and organ) were that good.

I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.
Posted by: Tonypete

That would be cool.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (+bLMA)

215 Ooh, there's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth

But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Pce4l)

216 >The 15 inch naval guns out in front are terrific!

What knockers!!

Posted by: Gene Wilder at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (XQo4F)

217 Eye witness testimony.

https://is.gd/z2knYF

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (L/fGl)

218 Art Anal-ysis -a limerick

She's borderline insane, she's lost the plot
It's a foul bowel obsession that she's got
It seems her only theses
Are coprophilia and feces
Her tangled stool obsession? A Freud knot!

Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (poXs5)

219

Ooh, bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow when they rode by

And we're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled to let his kingdom rise

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (Pce4l)

220 And the only thing I remember from that was the reproduction of Trajan's Column.
Posted by: Bulg at July 14, 2025 10:29 AM (77rzZ)

I was in the pool!

Posted by: Trajan at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (vYDwg)

221 I can see it now; "Truckstop Toilets."

Probably on PBS.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 14, 2025 10:32 AM (Q4IgG)

Was watching some old Overhaulin' episodes yesterday. One of the "cons" was Chris Jacobs pretending to be a director and had bought a guy's AMC AMX to use in his new series "Blowing Up Cars in Slow Motion."

"Maybe you've seen my other works......"Blowing Up Boats in Slow Motion" or "Blowing Up Planes in Slow Motion.""

I chuckled.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)

222 Ooh, there's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth

But they're marching to Bastille Day
The guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Pce4l)

Not my favorite, but still a great song.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (i24o9)

223

Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago, the mould was cast

For they marched up to Bastille Day
The guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys
Oh!

Posted by: Prof. Neil E. Peart at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (Pce4l)

224 Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:37 AM (VofaG)

I fixed it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 14, 2025 10:40 AM (VTAje)

225 A great poem by a great poet is NOT spam.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:40 AM (Pce4l)

226 The modern art was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 14, 2025 10:40 AM (XQo4F)

227 I see today's "art" is a live look in at CNN.

BTW, I know some of you are passionate about the Epstein deal, and you are right--child predators deserve worse than death.

But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
Egging this on for a fight.
And if you want to say, but maybe this time they are dealing honestly and fairly, go ahead.

But if it's Trump vs. CNN, it's 100% Trump all the time--no matter how bad a "look" it is for Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (JThEY)

228 Wolfus better batten down the hatches when he recovers from surgery. Ventusky has some nasty tropical weather headed his way in a couple of days.

Posted by: pawn at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QB+5g)

229 just got back from dentist appt., and I'm all ready to jump into Art Thread. And this is what I get?

feh

Posted by: Otto Pen at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (sJHOI)

230 I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.

Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)

231 The Tate has JMW Turner paintings. If I ever were to go there, it would be to see those, not to look at a toilet that is much dirtier than the one in my bathroom.

Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.

Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)

232
I read later it has almost 1000 pipes.
Posted by: Tonypete

Pfffft! so does Wolfus.

Posted by: Pipe This!! at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (G5+As)

233 I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)

I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

234 Not my favorite, but still a great song.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 14, 2025 10:39 AM (i24o9)

Indeed. I make it a point to play this early and often every July 14.

If Doof isn’t posting this I will be quite disappointed.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (Pce4l)

235 They live among us.

https://is.gd/mAeSBr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:42 AM (L/fGl)

236 Mao approves of this “art”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 14, 2025 10:43 AM (Pce4l)

237 I'm guessing Sarah doesn't occupy one of the favorable quadrants on the hot/crazy matrix.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at July 14, 2025 10:43 AM (hjUY3)

238 just got back from dentist appt., and I'm all ready to jump into Art Thread. And this is what I get?

feh
Posted by: Otto Pen

Don't chip a tooth on the throne.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:45 AM (+bLMA)

239 The Tate has JMW Turner paintings. If I ever were to go there, it would be to see those, not to look at a toilet that is much dirtier than the one in my bathroom.

Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)

Houston Museum has my favorite Turner. Its apparently before his scratchy plexiglass period. Very nice.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:45 AM (VofaG)

240 I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (QzINz)

I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge

Wasn't it the Europeans who shit seven times a day as normal?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (+bLMA)

241 Not art. Not even interesting. Needs Comet.
Posted by: huerfano at July 14, 2025 10:41 AM (n2swS)
------------------
Mr. Clean. Stronger than dirt.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (W3T6M)

242 Anyway, good morning! Everyone has gotten breakfast here, I have walked the doge and am headed to the doctor’s for a check on my low blood sugar. Woohoo.

Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (QzINz)

243 227 I see today's "art" is a live look in at CNN.

BTW, I know some of you are passionate about the Epstein deal, and you are right--child predators deserve worse than death.

But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
Egging this on for a fight.
And if you want to say, but maybe this time they are dealing honestly and fairly, go ahead.

But if it's Trump vs. CNN, it's 100% Trump all the time--no matter how bad a "look" it is for Trump.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Pepperidge Farms remembers a number of 'sex scandals'---Cong. Foley and Kolbe preying on pages, before them Gerry Studds, Daniel Crane, etc. etc. preying on pages. The whole Boys Town child sex scandal in the 80's and early 90's, Craig Spence who was intertwined with the Reagan and Bush White Houses and led people on night time WH tours.

Then you have the Russia Russia fake shit, a guy being put in jail for fake reasons due to the Obama admin trying to deflect Benghazi questions. The curious power of arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi, the Vegas mass murder, Burisma and Ukraine, the assassinations of JFK, MLK, RFK

Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (ctrM5)

244 OMG! IT'S COME TRUE!

https://is.gd/f76Upa

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:48 AM (L/fGl)

245 So that's where Hermes' bag got to!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 10:49 AM (6aG9P)

246 But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."

—

Right wing media has been leading this charge.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)

247
Right wing media has been leading this charge.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)

I have to agree....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (VE6XX)

248
A card-playing wag known as Krouse
With a penchant to grumble and grouse
At the casino down the road
When the toilets overflowed
Said "A flush always beats a full house!"

Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (poXs5)

249 Right wing media has been leading this charge.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 10:50 AM (ImXfC)

Curious to who you are referring to?

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)

250 Gee, who knew that all those nasty frat bathrooms in college were bastions of high art?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (iFTx/)

251 Work beckons.

I'm swamped for the next few weeks, so I'll be scarce for a while.

Be well, Horde.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (Zz0t1)

252 A card-playing wag known as Krouse
With a penchant to grumble and grouse
At the casino down the road
When the toilets overflowed
Said "A flush always beats a full house!"
Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (poXs5)

LOL.. One of your best

Posted by: It's me donna at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VE6XX)

253 The debate is over.

https://is.gd/roXXWj

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (L/fGl)

254 Didn’t Freud have something to say about people stuck in the poop stage

Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)

255 I had a John Cleese moment in the Tate London once. Bending over to look at the sig on a painting, I sensed a head close by. Someone else examining the signature.

That someone else then spoke a phrase to whomever he was with as he stood back up, and from about the second word, I knew it was Cleese. He was with his wife, the woman who played the maid in "Fawlty Towers." She co-wrote the scripts, if I recall correctly.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 14, 2025 10:21 AM

John Cleese had a cameo in a Dr. Who episode. The TARDIS materializes in the Louvre, and he and a woman were pretentiously critiquing it as modern art. Then the Doctor ran in, the TARDIS dematerialized, and they were even ore impressed by the "art". Nice little moment of satire there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:53 AM (dPfyF)

256 Good heavens! Well, happy Monday there, but it's not art here.

Can you imagine? Sarah Lucas is a well known artist - on YouTube; has a Wikipedia page, and agents in NY, London and Berlin.

She's 62 years old & "part of the generation of Young British Artists who emerged in 1988," who brashly and tenderly explores "what makes us human."

No. But thanks for the art lesson.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 14, 2025 10:53 AM (NFX2v)

257 Sarah should probably expand her horizons past the bathroom.

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Psychological infants gotta infantilize ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 14, 2025 10:53 AM (RoUkY)

258 254 Didn’t Freud have something to say about people stuck in the poop stage
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)

Probably.

Posted by: Reforger at July 14, 2025 10:54 AM (lPvx2)

259 there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting."

Germans?

Posted by: man at July 14, 2025 10:54 AM (tubbA)

260 I have walked the doge and am headed to the doctor’s for a check on my low blood sugar. Woohoo.
Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM

And how are Elon and company this morning?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:55 AM (dPfyF)

261 I believe there is counseling available for those who have an obsession with toileting.
Posted by: Piper
+++++++++++++
I'm sure Muldoon has a code for that.
Posted by: Sponge

***************

Child's play

ICD-10-CM Diagnosis Code F98.1

Psychogenic encopresis

Posted by: muldoon at July 14, 2025 10:57 AM (poXs5)

262 Toilet "Inferno" and no Chipotle reference?

* hic *

Posted by: Hillary! at July 14, 2025 10:57 AM (Dv3i1)

263 EXACTLY!!! This is the environment ICE prisoners in Alligator Alcatraz are being forced to shave in.
-Debbie Was a man Schultz

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 14, 2025 10:58 AM (uEWUd)

264 And there is a number of spy and mole stories that were never resolved.

Simply put, most of what our elite get up to is vile decadence when they are not hoovering up other people's money, buying favors from pols, and seeking to misuse power. "Put not your trust in princes", indeed.

So you get into the rather nasty business as president where US intel agencies pal around with foreign ones to all get around spying on their own politicians. They simply outsource the job to other countries intel. PDT is also dealing with the despicable creatures in the Obama, Clinton, and Biden junta with the power to run amuck creating all kinds of fake and gay shit for their evil power games.

During the ensuing years after the heyday of Ghislaine and Epstein, we are left with documents of dubious quality, evidence that has gone missing or been tampered with over the years, and a persistent DoJ and IC internal corruption to a degree that no sane person would believe that Wray, Garland, Monaco, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, and our intel agencies with their foreign friends like MI-6 have not poisoned the evidence stream to the extent any cases would be non-prosecutable.

Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:59 AM (ctrM5)

265 122 Where the fuck do you even find a shitter that nasty?

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Have you seen the Molly Pitcher rest stop on the Jersey Turnpike?

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (ikKGb)

266 There is a British show called Landscape Artist of the Year. Its a competition show where each episode 6 or so painters compete to paint a landscape of a selected location. It is then judged by 4 'experts'. 90% of the time they choose the last one I would choose.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (VofaG)

267 260
And how are Elon and company this morning?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 14, 2025 10:55 AM (dPfyF)

Elon is bored, based on his recent posts on X, specifically about Austin. I think his mom may need to intervene- seems she is about the only one he listens to. 😃

Posted by: Piper at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (QzINz)

268 This is not 'art'. It's fraud.

Gee, who knew that all those nasty frat bathrooms in college were bastions of high art?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (iFTx/)

When I attended Sonoma State, all of the bathroom stall walls in the Art Dept. building were wrapped in white butcher paper and folks were encouraged to draw or write on them. After a while, they'd remove the paper, hang it in the halls, and put up fresh. It being the Art dept. the grafitti was somewhat more elevated above the 'Here I sit, broken-hearted' level and typical filthy drawings, but not by much. The practice did keep the stall walls from being scratched up and permanently defaced, so there was that.

Posted by: tankascribe at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (NtoJk)

269
Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)

Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)

270 Kinda reminds me of the recurring dream I have where I'm in a public place and really have to poop, but every toilet I can find is either unspeakably nasty or exposed to public view.
Posted by: Bulg

Didja' have the one where you find coins on the ground in succession? Or the one where you show up to a college final exam without knowing what the class was?

Yeah. That's everyone.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (mlg/3)

271 4) Epstein got the red carpet treatment when visiting Israel.

5) Epstein bankrolled major investments in Israeli tech.

(Evidence below)

But fine, if Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence or any other intel service - which is theoretically possible - why can't Pam Bondi, CIA and FBI say that?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 14, 2025 10:19 AM (TGPs7)

You know, if Epstein were a Mossad asset, giving him the red carpet treatment on his visits to Israel would certainly deflect attention to that rumor, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (gRLf5)

272 Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)

Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)

Those are pundits not a supposed news site.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)

273 "Throughout her work, everyday objects are playfully transformed to expose the mischievous, destructive and vulnerable parts of life."

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Nice way to say this is stupid, useless garbage appealing to no one.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (qBdHI)

274 Curious to who you are referring to?
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VofaG)

Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)

Those are pundits not a supposed news site.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)

To be clear I agree they are pushing it and commented days ago about the Right again shooting itself in the foot when we have the most momentum we have ever had for change.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (VofaG)

275 Tucker, Tim Pool, Laura Ingraham, Megyn Kelly to name but a few.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ImXfC)

Those are pundits not a supposed news site.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)

I said media not news site.

Point is it’s the right that’s screaming about this. And rightfully so (no pun intended). It’s a bullshit coverup. And it’s insulting that they think we’re this stupid.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (ImXfC)

276 That looks like quite the painful way to die. To put it in terms close to approaching colloquial "New Jersey"-ese: "Hey! Sarah! I got yer nuts right heeeeeeeere ... !"

Posted by: Dr_No at July 14, 2025 11:07 AM (ayRl+)

277 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 14, 2025 11:06 AM (ImXfC)

we were comparing CNN but you knew that. You're part of the problem I'm referring to.

Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (VofaG)

278 Read someday, if you haven't, how Whitey Bulger was an informant for the FBI for decades and the FBI and local prosecutors, including a guy named Robert Mueller kept three innocent men in jail for a crime that Whitey and his crew committed.

Then there is the DoJ, Intel Community, and a host of people like AG Ed Meese, Billy Bob Barr, FBI chief Louie Freeh, and so on that were involved in the Inslaw scandal.

There is the astonishing lethal effects that we commonly joke about if you are around the Clintons and their web of corruption.

Then Congress has a secret slush fund to pay off sexual predator victims, they engage in inside trading, sell off their votes and influence to big donors, and use their powers to benefit the club, not the people.

Simply put, it is a really big club of awful people that are embedded in this country's (and most others) ruling class and most of what we see is probably about ten percent of what is going on.

Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (ctrM5)

279 But CNN and the rest of the scum are the ones pushing the right to make a big deal out of it; a "conspiracy theory that put Trump in office."
—
Right wing media has been leading this charge.
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And what drives the conversation on the right-wing media?
They talk about the same things "everybody" else is talking about.
And if CNNN/MSNBC/et al. are pushing a story, it's going to be a story on right-wing media.

I'm asking, shouldn't we be very, very cautious of being on the same "side" of a story as CNN?
That Trump "didn't deliver" on his promise?
Or, as they put it, giving a "platform" to an issue that only hurts Trump?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:09 AM (JThEY)

280 Megyn Kelly and Chelsea Clinton in a cat fight on X is amusing.

Rrrrrrrrrrw!

Good stuff from Kelly ripping on the Clintons.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 14, 2025 11:10 AM (Y1sOo)

281 Didn’t Freud have something to say about people stuck in the poop stage
Posted by: Coelacanth at July 14, 2025 10:52 AM (QJ2Hs)

Precursor to homosexuality.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 14, 2025 11:11 AM (g8Ew8)

282 During the ensuing years after the heyday of Ghislaine and Epstein, we are left with documents of dubious quality, evidence that has gone missing or been tampered with over the years, and a persistent DoJ and IC internal corruption to a degree that no sane person would believe that Wray, Garland, Monaco, federal prosecutors, FBI agents, and our intel agencies with their foreign friends like MI-6 have not poisoned the evidence stream to the extent any cases would be non-prosecutable.
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Exactly right.

There will be little to no Earthly justice for a lot of those involved.
That doesn't mean let it go.
But it also doesn't mean kneecap Trump over it.
Capone went to jail over tax evaision.
Destroying the power of the elite is more painful to them than the scandal.
See also the Diddy prosecution: They had him dead to rights on all of the charges. And they jury is going to let him skate on almost all of them.
Do you see a different outcome when the defendant has billions and politicians in his pocket?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 14, 2025 11:15 AM (JThEY)

283 I'm asking, shouldn't we be very, very cautious of being on the same "side" of a story as CNN?
That Trump "didn't deliver" on his promise?
Or, as they put it, giving a "platform" to an issue that only hurts Trump?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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People never ask themselves about the media (and the conservative media is as poisoned by being owned by oligarchs as well) what is the purpose they are trying to achieve with a story.

Part of it is clicks--sex, alleged coverups, and murders among the elite are always good for clicks.

A second part of it is to drive the conversation of elites and commoners like sheep into corrals.

Some are trying to use Epstein and Co as a bludgeon against Jews and Israel. Some are trying to use it to attack the Trump policies that are showing immediate success in economics, etc. Some are those that get captured by a narrative arc and cannot let it go (the whole Karen Read saga for example). Some hunt for victims they can champion (while conveniently ignoring massive crimes committed by human traffickers from other lands), and some are engaged in a cynical political effort to derail PDT for personal and political reasons.

Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:17 AM (ctrM5)

284 See also the Diddy prosecution: They had him dead to rights on all of the charges. And they jury is going to let him skate on almost all of them.
Do you see a different outcome when the defendant has billions and politicians in his pocket?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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And James Comey's daughter as one of his prosecutors.

More realistically, I have read as much of the documents released as I could about Epstein/Ghislaine. They are out there from the civil lawsuit filed against Prince Andrew, the original criminal complaint evidence including the investigating cop's report, and so on.

We know a lot about his and Ghislaine's methods in 'recruiting' staff. Some were over 18, some were less than 18 (seem to recall that one was 15) but the girls that gave depositions or testimony focused on their lives more than clients. Giuffre gave the longest deposition naming names, etc. and some of these facts were later found to be distorted or even fabricated. Superlawyer David Boies and his partners scoured up some of the Epstein girls as plaintiffs in various lawsuits which vanished over time as the cases were either dropped or quietly settled.

What we do not know is why.

Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)

285 So the terlet hobo scored an art show in? That's a bit surprising

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at July 14, 2025 11:41 AM (ujkbA)

286 Picture reminded me of an incident i vaguely remember from when i was young - not yet in kindergarten. Parents were not rich (8 kids will do that to you) but mom was a big fan of Better Homes & Garden magazine - so occasionally on a weekend dad would load us all up in the station wagon to visit some open houses - for mom's sake. No real intent to buy - just a free activity mom would love.

Most of us kids would stay in the car (with comics and coloring books to keep us busy) and the parental units would do the tour with one or two of us to stretch their legs. One time I was such a kid and wandered off - saw a toilet and did my business (#2). It was a new build - so the water hadn't been turned on yet. Parents asked where I'd been - I told them. We left quickly before the realtor could know it was us.

Hopefully some 4 year old having to go will see this "exhibit" and make it interactive.

Posted by: BobM at July 14, 2025 11:47 AM (y0oi5)

287 JFK, MLK, RFK
Posted by: whig at July 14, 2025 10:47 AM (ctrM5)

I shouted out, “Who killed the Kennedys?” When after all, it was you and me.

Posted by: Lucifer at July 14, 2025 01:04 PM (Pce4l)

288 The most modern art I go for is pop art...and I think the modernists have rejected it b/c it actually still has artistic merit...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 14, 2025 09:47 AM (tOcjL)

I have a quick cutoff for what isn't art. If I could do it without practice, it definitely is not.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:18 PM (8avO+)

289 There is a British show called Landscape Artist of the Year. Its a competition show where each episode 6 or so painters compete to paint a landscape of a selected location. It is then judged by 4 'experts'. 90% of the time they choose the last one I would choose.
Posted by: polynikes at July 14, 2025 11:00 AM (VofaG)

Its a critics disease. You see a zillion movies and the only ones that get a response are the ones that are crazy or different. If you lose touch with that sense of the normal, you've lost the audience.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 14, 2025 02:23 PM (8avO+)

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