Communist Ghoul Media Goes Straight to Blaming a Republican President for Deadly Weather

Around 70 people died in the floods and we can expect that number to continue rising as some of those reported missing will eventually be confirmed to be dead.

President Donald Trump signed a Major Disaster Declaration for Kerr County, Texas, over the weekend, pledging immediate federal assistance to support rescue and recovery operations after devastating Fourth of July flooding.
Key Details:
In a Truth Social post Sunday, Trump confirmed he signed the disaster declaration "to ensure that our Brave First Responders immediately have the resources they need."
Floodwaters surged through Kerr County on Independence Day, claiming nearly 70 lives and leaving over 20 girls still missing, according to updated reports.
More than 850 individuals have been rescued thanks to joint operations by the U.S. Coast Guard and state emergency personnel, Trump said, noting Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem visited the area alongside Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.
Diving Deeper:
President Donald Trump moved swiftly over the weekend to authorize federal support for flood recovery efforts in central Texas, where the aftermath of deadly flash flooding continues to unfold. On Sunday, Trump announced via Truth Social that he had signed a Major Disaster Declaration for Kerr County, one of the hardest-hit regions in the state.
"I just signed a Major Disaster Declaration for Kerr County, Texas, to ensure that our Brave First Responders immediately have the resources they need," Trump wrote. "These families are enduring an unimaginable tragedy, with many lives lost, and many still missing."
The disaster struck during Independence Day celebrations, with sudden and violent flooding sweeping through areas around Kerrville -- including children's camps -- leaving widespread devastation in its path.

The Democrat Media knew from the first moments the cause for this tragedy: Global Warming and the Bad Orange Man who is a Fascist.

It's so strange that no Democrat president, not one, has ever been blamed for the weather-related catastrophes that occur during his term, while not a single Republican president has ever escaped blame.

That seems statistically unlikely, if we assume a non-partisan media, so we should definitely not assume that.

Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger
Climate change caused the Texas floods that killed at least 27 people, say the media. No, it didn't. The lack of a flood warning system did. We've managed floods for millennia, and deaths from them declined 80% in the last 100 years. Climate reporters are trapped in a weird cult

Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger
Jul 5
Climate change caused the catastrophic floods that tore through Central Texas over the last few days, killing at least 27 people, including nine children, and turning calm rivers into violent torrents, according to the media.
At Camp Mystic in Kerr County, the Guadalupe River surged from about three feet to nearly 29 feet in just 90 minutes, sweeping away cabins, vehicles, and people with little or no warning. Climate change caused a warmer atmosphere, which holds more moisture, and unleashed it in increasingly intense bursts.
Volumes of precipitation were extreme. They had less than a 0.1% chance of occurring in any given year, according to the New York Times. Texas climatologists warned that the frequency and severity of such events have already increased and could intensify by another 10 percent by 2036. In East Texas, "the number of days per year with at least two inches of rain or snow has increased by 20 percent since 1900," noted the Times.
But that tiny increase in precipitation doesn't explain the floods or the deaths in Texas. Over the past century, global flood deaths declined by more than 80 percent. That happened not because nations reduced rainfall but because they have learned how to live with it. They built levees, dams, and drainage systems. They developed early warning systems and evacuated people before the water arrived. Kerr County in Texas failed to do any of these things.
Despite its location in one of the most flood-prone regions in the United States, the county had no formal flood warning system in place. There were no sirens, no automated text alerts, no rapid evacuation protocol. The river rose, and families had no idea it was coming...

Remember Julian Ryan. He died saving his mother, fiancee, and two children from the floods in Texas.

He was a hero. ♥️💔🙏 pic.twitter.com/0QzUFApWQy
— Sassafrass84 (@Sassafrass_84) July 6, 2025

27-year-old man dies while saving his fiancée, children & mom during the Texas flash floods

“I’m sorry, I’m not going to make it. I love y’all,” were Julian Ryan’s last words.

When Ryan realized 911 wouldn’t be able to save them in time as water rushed into the home, he punched… pic.twitter.com/SPAM3OSNgL
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) July 6, 2025

Climate change caused the catastrophic floods that tore through Central Texas over the last few days, killing at least 27 people, including nine children, and turning calm rivers into violent torrents, according to the media.

At Camp Mystic in Kerr County, the Guadalupe River… pic.twitter.com/bMiO9yPvre
— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) July 5, 2025

A Coast Guard rookie rescued 165 children trapped at Camp Mystic, a summer camp particularly hit by the floods:

“I had about 200 kids — scared, cold, and terrified. Probably the worst day of their lives.”

Coast Guard rescue swimmer Scott Ruskin shares how he helped save 165 people during the devastating Texas floods at Camp Mystic. pic.twitter.com/1jUWQGDqKa
— Good Morning America (@GMA) July 7, 2025

This DEI hire falsely claims that Camp Mystic is "whites only" and essentially says that we shouldn't care about white children dying in floods, You Racists.

🚨DISGUSTING: Meet Sade Perkins—former Market Manager of the Freedmen’s Town Farmers Market and a Non-Resident Fellow at Princeton University—who recently posted a vile racist video about Camp Mystic in Texas, in the wake of missing children during the floods. In her rant, she… pic.twitter.com/5tDyDs2LfV
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) July 7, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 12:24 PM

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1 There it is.

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (VPwHp)

2 Hello there.

Posted by: Max Power at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (+/b5h)

3 Obama got a hug for his hurricane. Granted it was from Fat Christie. That's like two hugs.

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 12:24 PM (VPwHp)

4 This is all a cover for the true culprit:

The copyright regime that is Life+70 out of alignment with the original intent of the founders.

Flash floods will stop when we return to 14 years for copyright.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

5 It's who they are.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (okun6)

6 Why, you felt the pulse. I just got done getting into a fine rage over these asshats.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (bss/y)

7 It's what they do.

They have a playbook that worked, so they will keep running it.

Leftists have a retarded ability to learn. We can be thankful for that, as their enemies.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 12:26 PM (N1DT3)

8 Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government!

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 12:26 PM (+RVtD)

9 It's so strange that no Democrat president, not one, has ever been blamed for the weather-related catastrophes that occur during his term, while not a single Republican president has ever escaped blame.

EXCUSE ME sir...the entire world knows that every Democrat president's term is notable for its consistent temperate weather, prosperity, unicorns, lollipops and rainbows, and a chicken in every pot.

Harrumph

Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:27 PM (dCxaZ)

10 Trump controls the weather???

I didn't know that.

Posted by: dantesed at July 07, 2025 12:27 PM (qm5Wv)

11 Good afternoon Ace and everyone
The Democrats Propaganda Ministry will never quit

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (+qU29)

12 I'll give this story 24 hours (maybe 4

in the FNM before it vanishes without a trace. Why? Dead white Christian girls. Nobody cares about them.

Had these been dead illegal invader sex traffickers, we would never hear the end of the story.

Remember when an illegal invader drowned trying to sneak across the river? It was front-page news for weeks.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (iFTx/)

13 The Julian Ryan story is making my heart hurt

RIP young man, condolences to his family and to all those who suffered similar fates and lost loved ones...

Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (dCxaZ)

14 Why did Trump make them build in a flood plain?

Posted by: huerfano at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (n2swS)

15 The earth is on fire! Fire I tells you! Fire!
Release my chakra! Yeah! Oh Yeah!

Posted by: Al Gore, Rapist at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (lX1hk)

16 Always the same common thread.

"Holy shit, people might start talking about something other than meeeee! Dead Kids? Who cares!!!! What about MY hangups and hobby-horses, huh?"

Climate change. Melanin. OrangeManBad. Doesn't really matter what the particulars of the hangup are. Talk about MEEEEEEEEEEE, Dammit!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (VoAdT)

17 The weather station people say that instead of the normal 2 staffers, they knew bad stuff was coming, so upped their staffing to five. Yet somehow, this is because of Trump.

as you're hopefully well aware by now, the National Weather Service increased its local staff — on a holiday weekend — because they could tell something bad was coming. The floods were predicted. The warnings went out.

https://is.gd/qYsd2i

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (Riz8t)

18 It's crazy to blame Trump when we all know it's the Joos.

Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (jc0TO)

19 Not getting enough attention: that campground is on land that floods frequently and has had kids die in previous floods. The owners/organizers should be liable.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

20 Remember. The hill country of Texas is a couple inches of soil over limestone. There's, basically, no soaking in. It's all run-off. Generally it's handled pretty well but the rain on the 5th was very heavy and very continuous.

They were sending out weather alerts on phones every couple hours. (Almost) everything the media says is a lie.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

21 10 Trump controls the weather???

I didn't know that.
Posted by: dantesed at July 07, 2025 12:27 PM (qm5Wv)

Jared lets him borrow his personal keycard for accessing The Machine any time he likes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:30 PM (VoAdT)

22 Julian Ryan, toxic male and hero.

Square that circle, leftists.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at July 07, 2025 12:30 PM (Qib0G)

23 The Church of Global Warming probably jumped for joy over this disaster

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

24 Trump controls the weather???

I didn't know that.

That's because J.J. Sefton controls the weather, but he's too powerful for the media to blame.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:31 PM (2ocoG)

25 "Despite its location in one of the most flood-prone regions in the United States, the county had no formal flood warning system in place. There were no sirens, no automated text alerts, no rapid evacuation protocol. The river rose, and families had no idea it was coming..."

Is that true? I heard that warnings did in fact go out -- but the river rising happened suddenly and late at night, when 99% of people were asleep, especially in a camp.

Seems more like a freak accident and perfect storm of bad circumstances more than any human failure.

Also, I understand the camp(s) has been there for a very long time. Has anything like this happened before?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

26 Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government!

If the rescission bills go through, we can expect frogs and locusts.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (Riz8t)

27 Is Sade (short for sadist) arguing that girls of colors other than white should be dead, too? Seems like it.

Posted by: huerfano at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (n2swS)

28 If the rescission bills go through, we can expect frogs and locusts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM

Rain of fire.

Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (jc0TO)

29 the rescission bills go through, we can expect frogs and locusts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (Riz8t)
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Rivers of blood.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (Qib0G)

30 It's crazy to blame Trump when we all know it's the Joos.

And their Joo-sharks with friggin laser beams.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (Riz8t)

31 >> The real culprit of severe weather... chemtrails.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG

I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense.

I have been researching weather modification and working with the legislative counsel for months writing this bill.
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Surprised the climate crisis cult hasn't gone off of that.

Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Greene's Weather Machine at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (Q4IgG)

32 I would gladly trade all those at CNN and other media outlets for those who have already died.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (XOckW)

33 Afternoon Ace, happy Monday.
All of the idiot boards that have been created by government over the last 50 years are staffed by many like this Perkins idiot."Food Insecurity" board is just make work . Shut down as many possible and you won't be exposed to as many idiots

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (JtH6i)

34 Dead White Jewish Male Caused The Flooding! There's a Story Ark in there somewhere -- Film at 11:00 ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (+RVtD)

35 Is that true? I heard that warnings did in fact go out -- but the river rising happened suddenly and late at night, when 99% of people were asleep, especially in a camp.

Other areas with frequent floods have sirens like tornado sirens to wake people up in cases like this. That county in TX discussed it but the residents refused the tax levy to pay for them.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (2ocoG)

36 May be too soon but it was the lack of common sense that made the floods a very sad catastrophe.

I’ve said it before prior to this central Texas flooding because it’s happen multiple times on the Trinity and San Jacinto Rivers . If you are expecting heavy rains and live by a Texas river you need to move to higher ground. You shouldn’t have to be formally warned.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (VofaG)

37 28 If the rescission bills go through, we can expect frogs and locusts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM

Rain of fire.
Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (jc0TO)

The Dead RISING from the GRAVE!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:34 PM (bss/y)

38 There should be a dedicated National Weather Service employee in every summer camp cabin and pup tent just to be prudent. Better to err on the side of caution!

Posted by: Karen From The HOA at July 07, 2025 12:34 PM (G5+As)

39 So-called "toxic" masculinity saved lives.

Not therapy.
Not community organizers.
Not activists.
Not marches.
Not protests.
Not break-out sessions.
Not studies degrees.
Not social workers.
Not words.
Not blue-state Democrats or their polices.

Men.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 12:34 PM (VlwBF)

40 Dead White Jewish Male Caused The Flooding! There's a Story Ark in there somewhere

ISWYDT

Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:34 PM (jc0TO)

41 People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (uWKK8)

42 41 People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (uWKK

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This is why there are houses on volcanoes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

43 The real culprit of severe weather... chemtrails.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸
@RepMTG

I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense.

I have been researching weather modification and working with the legislative counsel for months writing this bill.

She sounds insane, until you realize this is obviously aimed at Gates' intended trials of sun-dimming compounds in the atmosphere.

"Whattya mean I can't experiment on the entire planet's atmosphere with nobody's permission?"

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (Riz8t)

44 If warnings did go out, and it wasn't at 3 am when everyone was asleep, I wonder if they were ignored because of today's hysteria about warning about everything.

I get "emergency" warnings about "extreme" heat (or cold) or wind or air quality or stubbed toes or premature ejaculation practically every week. And yes, I even got flood warnings at least 3x this season.

Nobody pays any attention to it any more. To warn of everything is to warn of nothing.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

45 This is why there are houses on volcanoes.

Naples has entered Chat

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XOckW)

46 The Left loves dead people. Loves them.

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (VPwHp)

47 I was going to type something about the black democrat lesbo racist but saved myself from typing and deleting it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (17s+e)

48 Previous thread had some comments about the difficulty of using sirens for warnings in such a large area but, it seems you could at least post some in towns and cities. If you get a ludicrous amount of rain in a short time, maybe get some fcking helicopters in the air along the problem river(s)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (ULPxl)

49 I can’t stop looking for at least one child to have survived of the 23

I can’t stop praying for hope

I can’t stop thinking , is there really a God

I just so t know if I believe anymore…

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (nGraA)

50 Some days the media is too depressing for words. Instead of highlighting the heroes that risk their,lives to save others, they only want to place blame. When Democrats are in charge, we don't spend enough trying to control,the climate so it's not their fault. When Republicans are in charge, we don't spend enough trying to control the climate so they are totally to blame.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (t/2Uw)

51 Julian should have thrown a chair through the window, instead of his fists. But I'm sure the adrenaline was flowing, and time was short.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (vbXSk)

52 People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (uWKK

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This is why there are houses on volcanoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
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"Yea, I know."

-- James Bond Villain

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

53 the rescission bills go through, we can expect frogs and locusts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (Riz8t)
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Rivers of blood.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM

Dogs and cats living together!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (dPfyF)

54 MTG is trying to curb Gates and his evil minions. But wasn't the one experiment carried out in Mexico?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (XOckW)

55 >>She sounds insane, until

Not until...

she's a Flaming Fucking Retard.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (Bi+MU)

56 Dead White Jewish Male Caused The Flooding! There's a Story Ark in there somewhere -- Film at 11:00 ...

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Noah > NOAA

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (+RVtD)

57 No one has any compassion for the drowned, displaced rattlesnakes?

Posted by: Snake Lady From Duel at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (G5+As)

58 52 This is why there are houses on volcanoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
______

"Yea, I know."

-- James Bond Villain
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

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Inside an active volcano is just a flex, bruh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

59 The Death of the First Born will bypass many Leftist households.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (XOckW)

60 > The lack of a flood warning system did.

I've heard a LOT of conflicting information about this. Some people were saying the NWS was understaffed and no warning went out.

AP reported the NWS office that does the forecast for Austin, San Antonio, etc had MORE staff than usual. Typically they have two, that day they had five staffers. According to AP, they issued at least three flood warnings, including a critical flood warning at 4am.

I saw lots of locals saying they think it was actually warning fatigue that caused the problem. The forecasters will issue dire warnings over and over and nothing happens, so people start to ignore the warnings.

I also read that there was a previous incident where a camp in the area evacuated and the bus they were in washed away on a bridge. So the camp directors may have thought the cabins were safer than evacuating.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (lIio7)

61 There was an article I saw over the weekend that helpfully pointed out that many of those who attend Camp Mystic are the children of the Texas rich and powerful and the political elite.

You know, hint, hint.

No matter how much you hate the media:
You don't hate the media near enough.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (VlwBF)

62 The lie going around is that Trump caused this with his spending cutbacks. But as Arch already noted, they actually had extra staffing in the local NOAA office before and during the flooding.

Oh well. Never let the facts get in the way of your narrative.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (x8q/H)

63 Is that true? I heard that warnings did in fact go out -- but the river rising happened suddenly and late at night, when 99% of people were asleep, especially in a camp.

Seems more like a freak accident and perfect storm of bad circumstances more than any human failure.

Also, I understand the camp(s) has been there for a very long time. Has anything like this happened before?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

The timing was the worst possible case - the final evacuation warning was sent out at 4 AM, by 7 AM everything was at full flood and the damage already done. I've seen some time lapse video and the water's rise is incredible - 30 feet in 90 minutes in many cases. The Guadalupe River went from being 20 yards across to a mile wide.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (uWKK8)

64 This is why there are houses on volcanoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Zombie Residents of Pompei and Herculaneum at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (dPfyF)

65 The real culprit of severe weather... chemtrails.

You laugh, but the government has attempted to release things into storms to control them before, mostly in the 60s and 70s. They famously cloud-seeded a hurricane and it swerved off-course and hit a city it wasn't predicted to, which largely put an end to the program.

Now of course Bill Gates has a plan in motion to blot out the sun, and various other climate cultists have similar smaller-scale plans.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

66 4 If warnings did go out, and it wasn't at 3 am when everyone was asleep, I wonder if they were ignored because of today's hysteria about warning about everything.

I get "emergency" warnings about "extreme" heat (or cold) or wind or air quality or stubbed toes or premature ejaculation practically every week. And yes, I even got flood warnings at least 3x this season.

Nobody pays any attention to it any more. To warn of everything is to warn of nothing.

When your response for 800 children’s lives

You f-king listen amd have an emergency plan

Doesn’t look like that happened

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (nGraA)

67 >>People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.

Flood Plains don't necessarily work like that.

You can have a 100 year flood, every year, for a 100 years.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2025 12:39 PM (Bi+MU)

68 People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (uWKK

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This is why there are houses on volcanoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Same thing with avalanches. People build in known avalanche paths. For 29 years out of 30, nothing happens other than a great location and views in the valley. But then that one year comes ...

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:39 PM (iFTx/)

69 Climate Anxiety Disorder...CAD.
Yeah, there are a bunch of CADs out there...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

70 How does this one compare with the flood of 1848 on the Guadalupe? I think Trump is responsible for that one, too. And global warming, which time travelled back to cause that flood.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (Vfq+S)

71 >>> 35

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Other areas with frequent floods have sirens like tornado sirens to wake people up in cases like this. That county in TX discussed it but the residents refused the tax levy to pay for them.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (2ocoG)

I was wondering if anyone else had done that.

>>> 44 If warnings did go out, and it wasn't at 3 am when everyone was asleep, I wonder if they were ignored because of today's hysteria about warning about everything.

I get "emergency" warnings about "extreme" heat (or cold) or wind or air quality or stubbed toes or premature ejaculation practically every week. And yes, I even got flood warnings at least 3x this season.

Nobody pays any attention to it any more. To warn of everything is to warn of nothing.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

WINTER STORM [insert fake and gay name] IS COMING! REEEEE!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (ULPxl)

72 I also read that there was a previous incident where a camp in the area evacuated and the bus they were in washed away on a bridge. So the camp directors may have thought the cabins were safer than evacuating.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (lIio7)

Yes, that was in 1987. At Camp Mystic, one of the camp's owners rushed down to try and help evacuate the most at risk cabins, and he himself was killed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (uWKK8)

73 65 The real culprit of severe weather... chemtrails.

You laugh, but the government has attempted to release things into storms to control them before, mostly in the 60s and 70s. They famously cloud-seeded a hurricane and it swerved off-course and hit a city it wasn't predicted to, which largely put an end to the program.

Now of course Bill Gates has a plan in motion to blot out the sun, and various other climate cultists have similar smaller-scale plans.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (2ocoG)

China did all kinds of shit along these lines during the Olympics they hosted.

Apparently it didn't really work all that well anyway, because Chinesium. But they definitely tried.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (VoAdT)

74 Remember, not only you do not hate the media enough, it is not even close. They keep upping their game so you just can't keep up.

Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (GUOwU)

75 Heart can only go out to families of the victims.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (+qU29)

76 Is that true? I heard that warnings did in fact go out -- but the river rising happened suddenly and late at night, when 99% of people were asleep, especially in a camp.

Seems more like a freak accident and perfect storm of bad circumstances more than any human failure.

Also, I understand the camp(s) has been there for a very long time. Has anything like this happened before?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:31 PM (iFTx/)

The timing was the worst possible case - the final evacuation warning was sent out at 4 AM, by 7 AM everything was at full flood and the damage already done. I've seen some time lapse video and the water's rise is incredible - 30 feet in 90 minutes in many cases. The Guadalupe River went from being 20 yards across to a mile wide.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (uWKK

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Is there nothing that Global Warming can't do?????

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (iFTx/)

77 68 Same thing with avalanches. People build in known avalanche paths. For 29 years out of 30, nothing happens other than a great location and views in the valley. But then that one year comes ...
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:39 PM (iFTx/)

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And hurricanes.

And tornadoes.

And earthquakes.

And blizzards.

Why can't everyone just build everything where none of these things happen?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

78 MTG is trying to curb Gates and his evil minions. But wasn't the one experiment carried out in Mexico?

Gates had approval from the Biden junta to do it in the US, but the only company capable of doing what he wanted was SpaceX and Elon told him to fuck off.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (2ocoG)

79 Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger
Climate change caused the Texas floods that killed at least 27 people, say the media. No, it didn't. The lack of a flood warning system did.

City people need to quit commenting on country issues. They don't understand distances & numbers.

Kerr County - 1,100 square miles.
Population - 48,000 people
Kerrville (county seat) population - 24,000
Those 24k live inside of 20.3 square miles.

24,000 live in 1,080 square miles. (.04 people per square mile)

No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (erzCX)

80 Is that true? I heard that warnings did in fact go out -- but the river rising happened suddenly and late at night, when 99% of people were asleep, especially in a camp.

Phone warnings went out. There's no siren system like tornado prone areas might have.

The thing is, people will say "but the river is prone to floods" - which is true - but a siren system would be asking a rural community to shell out, probably, millions on something that is rarely needed... and mostly not by them. It's a tough thing. Not sure what the answer is.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (ExV1e)

81 This is why there are houses on volcanoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

Volcanoes make great evil lairs, or so movies have taught me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

82 Same thing with avalanches. People build in known avalanche paths. For 29 years out of 30, nothing happens other than a great location and views in the valley. But then that one year comes ...
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:39 PM

You're saying that's wrong?

Posted by: Californians at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (dPfyF)

83 The timing was the worst possible case - the final evacuation warning was sent out at 4 AM, by 7 AM everything was at full flood and the damage already done. I've seen some time lapse video and the water's rise is incredible - 30 feet in 90 minutes in many cases. The Guadalupe River went from being 20 yards across to a mile wide.

I saw a video of that. The water went from a trickle, 40' down from a bridge, to cresting over the bridge. And, of course, some idiots tried to drive over it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (Riz8t)

84 Nothing new.
The Press is actively evil.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (xcxpd)

85 Noah wasn't Jewish. The first Jew was Abram/Abraham.

Posted by: Rabbi Seligman at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (G5+As)

86 Sade Perkins was one of the ghouls that outed herself. Another, probably far more concerning one was Dr Christina Propst. She is a Houston based pediatrician who said the people, "got what they voted for." Blue Fish Pediatrics suspended her, then fired her.

http://tiny.cc/dkuo001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 07, 2025 12:42 PM (lIio7)

87 And there's the Houston pediatrician who blamed Republicans and conservatives for this.

She's been fired already.

But, the Ever-Cucks of NeverTrump are sure to write an article on that ... decrying cancel culture.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 12:42 PM (VlwBF)

88 Also, I understand the camp(s) has been there for a very long time. Has anything like this happened before?

Near as I can tell, the last time that something bad happened in pretty near that spot was the late '80s. You need a 1000 year flood to happen WHILE summer camp is in session.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:42 PM (ExV1e)

89 I guarantee you they saw the Guadalupe rising long before it became the flash flood. I feel for those camp leaders still with us because they will be second guessing themselves for life.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:42 PM (VofaG)

90 People build houses in potential paths of hurricanes, rolling the dice it won't happen to them.

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (+qU29)

91 Why can't everyone just build everything where none of these things happen?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

In space, nobody can hear you scream...so at least death should be quiet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

92 I morn for all the victims, black, Latino, white, whatever.

I must suck at racism.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (wBaIH)

93 91 Why can't everyone just build everything where none of these things happen?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)

In space, nobody can hear you scream...so at least death should be quiet.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

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Solar flares! Radiation!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)

94 45 This is why there are houses on volcanoes.

Naples has entered Chat
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (XOckW)

TBF, Naples is beautiful.

And MOST of the time it is ok.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (bss/y)

95 Is Sade (short for sadist) arguing that girls of colors other than white should be dead, too? Seems like it.
Posted by: huerfano at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (n2swS)

I believe what she's saying is "Kill the Boer".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (ExV1e)

96
Julian should have thrown a chair through the window, instead of his fists. But I'm sure the adrenaline was flowing, and time was short.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (vbXSk)

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I wonder if a good singer could have shattered the glass with a 105-decibel wail at the correct frequency?

/MythBusters

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (dU6AD)

97 Sade Perkins is not a smooth operator.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (Dv3i1)

98 How does this one compare with the flood of 1848 on the Guadalupe? I think Trump is responsible for that one, too. And global warming, which time travelled back to cause that flood.

Impossible. He was resting up from causing the New Madrid earthquake.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (Riz8t)

99 >>>I saw lots of locals saying they think it was actually warning fatigue that caused the problem. The forecasters will issue dire warnings over and over and nothing happens, so people start to ignore the warnings.

This is generally my take. We get so saturated with round-the-clock severe weather coverage that we eventually get desensitized. You could see the same thing happening in MO this spring with all the tornadoes.

I get the argument about keeping everyone informed, and I agree with it up to a point. And I don't think most meteorologists are trying to create false alarms. But there is a point beyond which it becomes counterproductive, and even some of them admit that.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (x8q/H)

100 Same thing with avalanches. People build in known avalanche paths. For 29 years out of 30, nothing happens other than a great location and views in the valley. But then that one year comes ...
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:39 PM (iFTx/)

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And hurricanes.

And tornadoes.

And earthquakes.

And blizzards.

Why can't everyone just build everything where none of these things happen?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (GBKbO)
_____

"What about us?"

-- Sinkholes

"Fuck you"

-- Wildfires

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

101 There is a long global history of water disasters striking in the middle of the night and killing everyone.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (XOckW)

102 It never ceases to amaze me how little these people understand about how government works nor do they take even 5 minutes to research what happened.

The cuts in the BBB don't go into effect until FY 2026.

There were flood warnings issued hours before the actual flood.

The Texas NWS stations had extra staff that day because of the chance of flooding.

But nothing can get in the way of their hot takes.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (viF8m)

103 The Julian Ryan story is making my heart hurt

RIP young man, condolences to his family and to all those who suffered similar fates and lost loved ones...
Posted by: kallisto

Me as well. Incredible stories of courage under imminent death to save and protect those that you love and people that you don't know but for the fact that they are in trouble and you can help.

I am trying my hardest to ignore the heartless vultures that are using this tragedy for their own political and sick agendas. It's hard.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (oiNtH)

104 Also, I understand the camp(s) has been there for a very long time. Has anything like this happened before?

Near as I can tell, the last time that something bad happened in pretty near that spot was the late '80s. You need a 1000 year flood to happen WHILE summer camp is in session.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Camp Mystic was founded in the '20's.

1920.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (erzCX)

105 I am but a mere caveman, but wind farms have got to be affecting the weather. They remove a lot of wind energy from the atmosphere - energy that would otherwise go toward steering fronts and whatnot.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (eb5mD)

106 My brother lives in the hills above Wimberley where something similar happened ten years ago. When I talked to him this morning, he said that people have built in all the low places around there because it's flat and convenient and beautiful until it rains twelve inches in forty-five minutes.

Posted by: huerfano at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (n2swS)

107 In space, nobody can hear you scream...so at least death should be quiet.
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If true, why can I hear Lambert screaming her head off in full Dolby THX surround?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 07, 2025 12:45 PM (Dv3i1)

108 Japan has the level of government these creatures want and people still died from the Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 12:45 PM (svLOV)

109 @91

>>In space, nobody can hear you scream...so at least death should be quiet.

That's only because all of the molecules are dispersed, but at the big bang when everything was closer together....

WHAT A SOUND!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 12:45 PM (XV/Pl)

110 Dr. Christina Propst, Joseph Mengle with tits.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (XOckW)

111 I'd like to hear what NOAA has to say about historic floods...IYKWIM

Posted by: muldoon at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (poXs5)

112 >>> 72 I also read that there was a previous incident where a camp in the area evacuated and the bus they were in washed away on a bridge. So the camp directors may have thought the cabins were safer than evacuating.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (lIio7)

Yes, that was in 1987. At Camp Mystic, one of the camp's owners rushed down to try and help evacuate the most at risk cabins, and he himself was killed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:40 PM (uWKK

I saw a link earlier from someone who was uphill from some of the camps and he was running around banging on people's doors but as fast as the water rose, he couldn't do much. WTF could you get that is loud enough to wake up most people, let alone some drunks on the weekend of the 4th? Cattle siren???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (ULPxl)

113 24,000 live in 1,080 square miles. (.04 people per square mile)

No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.
Posted by: rickb223
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24 per square mile?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (p16cu)

114 Last mt. Vesuvius eruption was in 1944. No worries.

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (g47mK)

115 108 Japan has the level of government these creatures want and people still died from the Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 12:45 PM (svLOV)

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Darth Pelagius discovered a secret to stop people from dying, but only the jedi keep it from being used.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)

116 98 How does this one compare with the flood of 1848 on the Guadalupe? I think Trump is responsible for that one, too. And global warming, which time travelled back to cause that flood.

Impossible. He was resting up from causing the New Madrid earthquake.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:43 PM (Riz8t)

All three of those big ones. The rest he left to his minions.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 07, 2025 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

117 This whole situation is awful, and I think the reason we had far less fatalities in our flash floods last June is that we have better cell reception in our area. As rural as NW IA is, it doesn't hold a candle to that area of Texas (we had to drive in that area a lot when Pooky was training at Goodfellow AFB).

Posted by: pookysgirl, trying to dry out her basement again at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (Wt5PA)

118 People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (uWKK

This is pretty accurate. I wonder why people build on / near a known major earthquake fault line.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (ExV1e)

119 The Julian Ryan story is sad and tragic, but a bit odd. There's hundreds of things in my house I could use to break a window before I'd use my hand/arm. And why not use a door? Don't know any details about his particular situation at that moment, so can't judge. Maybe a panic situation...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (XMwZJ)

120 No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.

That is entirely false

Posted by: Gonzotx at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (nGraA)

121 We knew this was coming. They were just waiting for the right disaster. It's another iteration of Bush and Katrina with added vileness. They have nothing else to go with.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (WHfpM)

122 I just don't understand. Planned Parenthood sacrifices millions and millions of virgins every year and still we have bad weather.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (L/fGl)

123 All of Japan is a chain of instability. Volcanoes, tremors, tsunamis.

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (g47mK)

124 This is why there are houses on volcanoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)
______

"Yea, I know."

-- James Bond Villain
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (iFTx/)

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Inside an active volcano is just a flex, bruh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (GBKbO)
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The Chinese movie Skyfire. Dumber than rocks, but an entertaining action movie. It's Jurassic Park with a volcano. Some rich (white) guy builds a luxury theme park at the base of a volcano. He's sure it's safe. You'll never guess what happens.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:48 PM (iFTx/)

125 Where is Shep Smith screaming about cannibals?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:48 PM (XOckW)

126 124 The Chinese movie Skyfire. Dumber than rocks, but an entertaining action movie. It's Jurassic Park with a volcano. Some rich (white) guy builds a luxury theme park at the base of a volcano. He's sure it's safe. You'll never guess what happens.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:48 PM (iFTx/)

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Low-key character drama about a man coming to terms with the failings of his father?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

127 Noem and others have said over the weekend that warnings went out from the national weather service. The camp and other campgrounds are in areas that have very spotty cell service. She also said that the infrastructure to connect the warnings from the national weather service to the local warning systems is antiquated. It is in the process of being replaced, but is not completed yesterday when the river rose again due to another round of storms an Amber alert was sent out which has a better chance of reaching peoples cell phones. but if you’re like me, you have the amber alert system turned off because getting an alert every four or five hours regarding a child two counties over gets old…

Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 12:48 PM (4UCRK)

128 Sade Perkins is a typical lefty, dancing on the graves of the innocent and the righteous.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 07, 2025 12:49 PM (cVIPE)

129 105 I am but a mere caveman, but wind farms have got to be affecting the weather. They remove a lot of wind energy from the atmosphere - energy that would otherwise go toward steering fronts and whatnot.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (eb5mD)

I doubt that, just off the back of an envelope. It's like saying cruise ships crossing the Atlantic are going to affect the gulf stream. Or that traffic all going westbound on the highway at quitting time will speed up the earth's rotation. The orders of magnitude of energy involved are way, way, way off. You'd need a billion times more windmills even just to get to "pissing in the ocean" territory.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:49 PM (VoAdT)

130 I think it should be fairly straightforward to build a local early warning apparatus next to the river. It doesn't do anything until water triggers it, at which point, a very loud siren goes off, or at least wakes up someone tasked with deciding if it's a real emergency. That's how the new generation of rain-sensing windshield wipers in cars works. IR sensing is cheap.

New cars sense rain on the windshield using a rain sensor, typically located behind the rearview mirror. This sensor uses infrared light to detect moisture on the glass. When raindrops are present, they scatter the light, and the sensor detects the reduced amount of reflected light, triggering the wipers to activate and adjust their speed based on the perceived rain intensity.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:49 PM (Riz8t)

131 Julian should have thrown a chair through the window, instead of his fists. But I'm sure the adrenaline was flowing, and time was short.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (vbXSk)

That was my thought but I wasn't there.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:49 PM (ExV1e)

132 You'll never guess what happens.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:48 PM (iFTx/)

OSHA shuts him down because the bannisters and handrails on stairs are 1/2" too high for ADA standards.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 12:50 PM (D7oie)

133 89 I guarantee you they saw the Guadalupe rising long before it became the flash flood. I feel for those camp leaders still with us because they will be second guessing themselves for life.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:42 PM (VofaG)

many of them were woken by water coming through the windows.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:50 PM (uWKK8)

134 The Death of the First Born will bypass many Leftist households.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:38 PM (XOckW)

Many Leftist households had a party after they aborted the "would have been first born".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:50 PM (ExV1e)

135 >>No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.

>>That is entirely false

I used to live across the bay from the Plymouth nuclear plant, about 5 miles away. We had an early warning siren system that I found out about after I moved in.

It's a series of horns mounted on some of the telephone poles. They did a test a few days after I moved in and I had no idea it was a test.

That thing would have woken the dead.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 12:50 PM (viF8m)

136 Nobody pays any attention to it any more. To warn of everything is to warn of nothing.

A couple of years ago I was out shopping and got a call from my dad asking if the tornado had caused any damage to me. What tornado? There wasn’t any tornado around here. (I used to get these kind of calls all the time when I lived in San Diego and there was an earthquake in San Francisco.)

Drive a few blocks east to the next store and the whole area was destroyed. Checked my phone and, sure enough, hidden in the hundreds of lightning strike warnings was one tornado warning.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 07, 2025 12:50 PM (olroh)

137 No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.
Posted by: rickb223

If only we could harness the power Jazzy Crockett's big mouth!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

138 I get the argument about keeping everyone informed, and I agree with it up to a point. And I don't think most meteorologists are trying to create false alarms. But there is a point beyond which it becomes counterproductive, and even some of them admit that.
Posted by: Dr. T

Eyeballs = ratings.
Problem is, after crying wolf so many times, people quit paying attention.

Add in they are wrong more than correct because of hinky accounting practices and people actively tune them out.

Hinky accounting practices - 35% chance of rain

Doesn't mean where you LIVE has a 35% chance of rain. It means SOMEWHERE in their viewing area has a 35% chance of rain.

But they don't explain it that way. They just say "Tuesday July 8th has a 35% chance of rain".
After so many predictions and nothing, people tune them out.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (erzCX)

139 WTF could you get that is loud enough to wake up most people, let alone some drunks on the weekend of the 4th? Cattle siren???

Yoko Ono?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)

140 Darth Pelagius discovered a secret to stop people from dying, but only the jedi keep it from being used.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Oh come now. It's Plagueis. -:-)

Joking aside, too many people believe in their hearts that if the government had all the money in the world, we would be free from death, want and suffering.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (svLOV)

141 A lot of them did that, it was all over Twixxer. And every one of them repeated the same idiot lies: FEMA has been gutted, the weather service was understaffed, Trump killed these children. It was idiotic lies but boy they sure were quick to trot it out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (dfIr7)

142 Nobody pays any attention to it any more. To warn of everything is to warn of nothing.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:36 PM (iFTx/)

If only technology existed to allow the user to receive only the type weather alerts they desire and only for a singular locale (county) instead of an entire region.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: one hour sober at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (Y1sOo)

143 I saw lots of locals saying they think it was actually warning fatigue that caused the problem. The forecasters will issue dire warnings over and over and nothing happens, so people start to ignore the warnings.
--
Amber Alerts
Silver Alerts
Blue Alerts (or whatever it is for a suspect)
Weather alerts

And, the abuses they stacked on the emergency alert system during Covid.

yeah, I have all alerts shut off on my phone; fcking annoying.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (VlwBF)

144 >>> 101 There is a long global history of water disasters striking in the middle of the night and killing everyone.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:44 PM (XOckW)

Yeah, hard to see it coming at night. And how many people hauling ass up a hill at 3am remember to grab their cell phones, and have it charged?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (ULPxl)

145 Another unhinged ghoul, this time a Pediatrician. Dr. Christina B. Propst posted on Facebook the following:

May all visitors, children, non-MAGA voters and pets be safe and dry.
Kerr County MAGA voted to gut FEMA. They deny climate change.
May they get what they voted for.
Bless their hearts.

She has been fired and post has been removed. She should lose her license.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2025 12:52 PM (oiNtH)

146 140 Oh come now. It's Plagueis. -:-)

Joking aside, too many people believe in their hearts that if the government had all the money in the world, we would be free from death, want and suffering.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (svLOV)

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NERD!

Also, this is obviously true. The Soviet Union was free from death, want, and suffering.

They didn't even have crime.

It was a paradise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

147 Hinky accounting practices - 35% chance of rain

Doesn't mean where you LIVE has a 35% chance of rain. It means SOMEWHERE in their viewing area has a 35% chance of rain.

From what I understand it means this: in this area, 35% of it will get rain.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:52 PM (dfIr7)

148 No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.
Posted by: rickb223

If only we could harness the power Jazzy Crockett's big mouth!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

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That thing could tip over an island!

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 12:53 PM (QJibF)

149 My best friend’s two nieces 11 and 17 were rescued from Camp Mystic. The girl’s parents were in Norway. The Father flew back at a cost of $7000 . They of course one of the fortunate parents. The 11 year old was in a cabin close to the river. They do tiers depending on age. The cabins closest to the river are for the youngest campers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:54 PM (VofaG)

150 She'll save children.

But not the Texan children.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:54 PM (VoAdT)

151 I remember one of the survivors from New Orleans after Katrina. He said as the storm was passing through he went downstairs and suddenly there was water in the doorway. And it was rising.

Water plays no games.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 07, 2025 12:54 PM (XOckW)

152 Some people were saying the NWS was understaffed and no warning went out.

This is not true. So many warnings went out that I turned the system off on my phone. Every couple hours.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (ExV1e)

153 137 No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.
Posted by: rickb223

If only we could harness the power Jazzy Crockett's big mouth!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

https://youtu.be/VST1ruR4x9s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

154 YOU are the carbon the Bolsheviks want to eliminate.

Posted by: toby928 reminds you at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (jc0TO)

155 133. The weather service noted that as the river came up the flood gauges were washed away. I don’t know at what point that happened, but if it was early enough, that would’ve been an absolute OSHIT moment.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (4UCRK)

156 "NERD!"

I'm at peace with that.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (svLOV)

157 My boss, unironically, just mentioned how this tragedy was caused by global warming right after talking about how she's read how this has happened in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, etc.

Fucking retards.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (1GV/C)

158 From what I understand it means this: in this area, 35% of it will get rain.

Today there is a 35% chance of rain. At noon there is a 45% chance of rain. At five there is a 25% chance of rain. Something isn’t on the same wavelength there.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (olroh)

159 I saw Mickey 17. Meh. The basic plot was good, and there were some clever ideas, but the (comically overrated) director had no idea what to do with them.

Nobody ever asks Mickey the most obvious of all questions about his repeated deaths: "Does it hurt?"

Weird and abrupt changes in tone and lurching from almost Rocky Horror weirdness to horror.

Every scene with Mark Ruffalo was cringe. And the entire last 1/3 of the movie is ... Starship Troopers?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (iFTx/)

160 >>> 149 My best friend’s two nieces 11 and 17 were rescued from Camp Mystic. The girl’s parents were in Norway. The Father flew back at a cost of $7000 . They of course one of the fortunate parents. The 11 year old was in a cabin close to the river. They do tiers depending on age. The cabins closest to the river are for the youngest campers.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:54 PM (VofaG)

*headdesk*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (ULPxl)

161 I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense.

well thank God for that crazy lady!

and me - I'm crazy too!

people. have. been. fucking with. the weather

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (Pv3Rg)

162 I shan't believe it!

15 Democrat officials – including judge, mayors, and city councilors – charged with vote-harvesting scheme by Texas DA

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)

163 And thank god your friend received good news.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (ULPxl)

164 Apparently in Carlson's dumbass interview with the "president" of Iran, he asked him if Israel "attempted" to assassinate him. too bad Carlson did not get a chance to interview Nasrallah.

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (g47mK)

165 I am but a mere caveman, but wind farms have got to be affecting the weather. They remove a lot of wind energy from the atmosphere - energy that would otherwise go toward steering fronts and whatnot.

That's a real thing that's been measured. Large-scale wind farms do in fact affect the weather. If you just have one or two like an old-timey farm all that will happen is you'll kill a lot of birds, but get an organized grid of them going like in many places and it really does change the weather.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (2ocoG)

166 many of them were woken by water coming through the windows.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:50 PM (uWKK

I know that. They should have moved the kids away from the river with the forecast . Another camp saw the Guadalupe rising before any warnings and moved their campers.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (VofaG)

167 121 We knew this was coming. They were just waiting for the right disaster. It's another iteration of Bush and Katrina with added vileness. They have nothing else to go with.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (WHfpM)

Never let a crisis go to waste. I fully expect a rapper to go on camera and claim President Trump hates black people or something. It's like they play the same playbook over and over.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (hs4ik)

168 158 From what I understand it means this: in this area, 35% of it will get rain.

Today there is a 35% chance of rain. At noon there is a 45% chance of rain. At five there is a 25% chance of rain. Something isn’t on the same wavelength there.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (olroh)

Well they have to pick some kind of number to attach to it because "I don't know maybe" doesn't sound nearly sciencey enough.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (VoAdT)

169 There will be no national divorce. That is fantasy. There is only Bosnia.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (i24o9)

170 24,000 live in 1,080 square miles. (.04 people per square mile)

No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.
Posted by: rickb223
______

24 per square mile?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Did I do it backwards? I probably did.
Yeah. 24 people per square mile.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (erzCX)

171
"Antifa" goons are now shooting and ambushing authorities.

And Democrats wonder why they're not popular.

Posted by: Auspex at July 07, 2025 12:58 PM (j4U/Z)

172 Vile people.

Posted by: steevy at July 07, 2025 12:58 PM (YwEeS)

173 Digital alerts, those you get via smart phone are sophisticated enough that you can tailor them to only alert you to specific events. I'm not interested in the National Weather Service's climate emergency alerts about "excessive heat or cold." Or weather phenomenon related to lakes, oceans, volcanos or avalanches. I live nowhere near any of those.

Severe storms, tornados and, during winter, ice. Other than those... nothing.

Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Greene's Weather Machine at July 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)

174

"Non-Resident Fellow at Princeton University"

Is that one of those jobs for blacks only?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (et1vG)

175 Israel is the bad guy, trying to assassinate legitimate president of Iran!1! *who has sworn death to Israel , preferably with missiles and nukes, but that is minor details

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (g47mK)

176 It's crazy to blame Trump when we all know it's the Joos.

Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (jc0TO)

Finally! Someone gets it!

It's their damned weather machines!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...antisemite at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (5Eb8h)

177 Hinky accounting practices - 35% chance of rain

Doesn't mean where you LIVE has a 35% chance of rain. It means SOMEWHERE in their viewing area has a 35% chance of rain.

Nope, it means that 35% of the area covered will get rain.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (2ocoG)

178 I saw Mickey 17. Meh. The basic plot was good, and there were some clever ideas, but the (comically overrated) director had no idea what to do with them.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM

It was better when it was titled Moon.

Posted by: toby928 reminds you at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (jc0TO)

179 NERD!

Also, this is obviously true. The Soviet Union was free from death, want, and suffering.

They didn't even have crime.

It was a paradise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

---------------

"Yeah, but did their Dear Leader ever shoot an 18 on a par-72 golf course littered with skull traps?"

/Kim Jong-Un

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (3goEG)

180 The media will be on something else in matter of days.

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (g47mK)

181 notification abuse = notification fatigue

this is why having an NOAA radio and using it if you're in a flood plain or tornado area is a good idea

your phone ain't gonna help you'll just tune out all the nonsense with the few important things sprinkled in

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (Pv3Rg)

182 Despite its location in one of the most flood-prone regions in the United States, the county had no formal flood warning system in place. There were no sirens, no automated text alerts, no rapid evacuation protocol. The river rose, and families had no idea it was coming...

This is completely and utterly FALSE. I received many many flood watch warnings that night. They were LOUD on my phone and I was unable to turn them off. (If he's trying to be cute because the warning system is a state system and not a county-run system, he should be ashamed).

Posted by: LASue at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (lCppi)

183 If only we could harness the power Jazzy Crockett's big mouth!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (TJLr1)

184 173 Digital alerts, those you get via smart phone are sophisticated enough that you can tailor them to only alert you to specific events. I'm not interested in the National Weather Service's climate emergency alerts about "excessive heat or cold." Or weather phenomenon related to lakes, oceans, volcanos or avalanches. I live nowhere near any of those.

Severe storms, tornados and, during winter, ice. Other than those... nothing.
Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Greene's Weather Machine at July 07, 2025 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)

Picked up my kids from vacation bible school a couple of weeks ago. Storm rolls in literally as we're getting in the car. Most of the parents got stuck in the church.

Anyway, we're driving and it's 8:45 PM, so dark. I'm trying to be calm and sheets of rain pound the truck. My young son asks if we're safe to drive because he was scared. I told him nothing to be scared of.

At that exact second, literally, tornado warning goes off on my phone. Thanks a lot, weather service.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (1GV/C)

185 160. It looks to me like having the youngest campers close to the river also allowed them to be close to the camp offices ,to the lunchroom, activity center, all that kind of stuff you’re not going to put a bunch of eight year-old girls completely away from the central location of activities.Especially when most of them might be experiencing their first away from home camp experience with no parents or family members.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (4UCRK)

186 My best friend’s two nieces 11 and 17 were rescued from Camp Mystic. The girl’s parents were in Norway. The Father flew back at a cost of $7000 . They of course one of the fortunate parents. The 11 year old was in a cabin close to the river. They do tiers depending on age. The cabins closest to the river are for the youngest campers.
Posted by: polynikes

Praise God that they were spared. I am sure that the days ahead will not be easy for them but loving adults surrounding them and having a strong faith will provide what they will need.

Posted by: Cheri at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (oiNtH)

187 You'd thunk most adults knew not to camp by a waterway.

So many waterways in some parts. Always surrounded.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (wLVMR)

188 Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (Pv3Rg

So you do believe in man made climate change?

Because if man can do it intentionally then why can't it happen unintentionally?

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (VofaG)

189 One becomes desensitized to alarms, as others have noted. Why do I need a Silver Alert about some guy from a Memory Unit getting past the Wanderguard at the nursing home in Charlotte four hours away?

Posted by: Everybody To Get From Street! at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (G5+As)

190 The Mystic camp has 750 girls. It must be on a huge piece of property. Not to minimize the tragedy, but this only affected a small number of girls in a small area of the camp (the part near the river). As I speculated above, this was most likely a freak accident that could not have been prevented by any realistic warning system.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:01 PM (iFTx/)

191 Mexicans protest Americans moving into their neighborhoods
The influx of Americans moving to Mexico is pushing housing prices up and forcing Mexicans out of some cities. CNN's Valeria León reports
https://t.co/Palx5TJuI7FDC

‘Speak Spanish or get out of here’ Mexicans protest gentrification and U.S. migration
ANI News
youtube.com/watch?v=1_4rEKAinWg

AFP News Agency
@AFP
VIDEO: Shops, restaurants vandalized in Mexico City anti-gentrification protest
Hundreds turned out in the Colonia Roma neighborhood to denounce rising housing prices and the displacement of long-time Mexican residents from areas increasingly populated by foreigners
x.com/AFP/status/1941462381420245032
Shops, restaurants vandalized in Mexico anti-gentrification protest
4:41 AM · Jul 5, 2025

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at July 07, 2025 01:01 PM (9aVck)

192 "Antifa" goons are now shooting and ambushing authorities.

headline I saw read "Violence at ICE facility; one dead"

as if the guy who died wasn't attacking them! didn't shoot them first!!!

argh

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:01 PM (Pv3Rg)

193
For me, even worse than Warning Fatigue is that I can't get Santa Barbara to take me off the alert list. I haven't lived there in 10 years and I'm STILL getting flood and wildfire warnings from those fuckers, even after contacting them and demanding they remove me.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 07, 2025 01:01 PM (y9nCu)

194 From what I understand it means this: in this area, 35% of it will get rain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

35% chance of rain. Yeah. And in Dallas/Ft. Worth, that's a big assed area that someone might get rain.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:01 PM (erzCX)

195

Ah, that black cunt is one of those Universal Unitarial nutjobs.

Says a lot. That is a Communist front.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 07, 2025 01:01 PM (et1vG)

196 190 The Mystic camp has 750 girls. It must be on a huge piece of property. Not to minimize the tragedy, but this only affected a small number of girls in a small area of the camp (the part near the river). As I speculated above, this was most likely a freak accident that could not have been prevented by any realistic warning system.

you are right as rain Elric

things like this happen. Nature is lovely but it's apt to kill you

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

197 Finally! Someone gets it!

It's their damned weather machines!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...antisemite at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (5Eb8h)
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Yeah, well, what I really hate is when same Jooooos! get the keys to both the time machine and the weather machine. The amount of mischief goes off the charts!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (tT6L1)

198 Trump must be borrowing the weather machine from the Jews!
/sarc

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (ZVgZ4)

199 I shan't believe it!

15 Democrat officials – including judge, mayors, and city councilors – charged with vote-harvesting scheme by Texas DA
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (L/fGl)

Woot!! Keep it coming! Pretty soon the Dems will b down to actual living, legal- citizen voters, and then they will be completely screwed.

Posted by: LASue at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (lCppi)

200 157 My boss, unironically, just mentioned how this tragedy was caused by global warming right after talking about how she's read how this has happened in the 90s, 80s, 70s, 60s, etc.

Fucking retards.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 07, 2025 12:55 PM (1GV/C)

Don't do that. Three generations of imbeciles are enough

Posted by: Zombie Oliver Wendell Holmes at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

201 US labor market demographics are shifting fast

Over the past 3 months, the number of foreign-born workers in the US fell by 3.4% — the sharpest drop since 2007 (excluding the 2020 pandemic).

That’s a decline of 1.1 million people, bringing the total to 32.6 million — the lowest since December 2024. This follows a record 5.0% surge (up 1.6 million) in the previous 3 months.

Overall, since 2020, the foreign-born labor force has grown by 6.3 million, or 24%.

Meanwhile, the number of native-born workers rose by 1.8 million (+1.3%) in the past 3 months, hitting a record 138.8 million.
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Weird how native job gains almost match non-native job losses for ... jobs Americans won't do

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (NwfFc)

202
Whites leave - White Flight
Whites stay - Gentrification
Whites die - Happy Left

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (VPwHp)

203 I saw Mickey 17. Meh. The basic plot was good, and there were some clever ideas, but the (comically overrated) director had no idea what to do with them.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM

It was better when it was titled Moon.
Posted by: toby928 reminds you at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (jc0TO)
____

yea, although in M17 the gimmick is that the Mickey character knows he's continually cloned (he keeps his memories), and willingly participates in it.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (iFTx/)

204 Warning systems and advanced site preps are why USA is so much safer than China (or many other places). In China, buildings get washed away or dams collapse, and the "fix" is for China to lie about the deaths, and advertise how BigGov helps the people.

BUT if the weather folks knew this was going to be a monumental flood in advance, they should have maybe gotten a helicopter (or five) with speakers up warning people. idk details ... but too many were left unprepared with nowhere to hide, even if it was a once a century occurence.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (vbXSk)

205 In other news, Ample Bosoms Audra is wearing an incredibly skimpy bra and insufficient coverup.

Young and the Senseless.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (ufFY8)

206 Yeah, well, what I really hate is when same Jooooos! get the keys to both the time machine and the weather machine. The amount of mischief goes off the charts!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (tT6L1)

Pixy rarely misplaces the keys to the Time Machine.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (TJLr1)

207 The various governments have had the ability to influence weather going back to the 1950s, some have boasted of it, including the USA.
The HAARP project has been with us since for decades. Few are even aware of it.
Hubris precedes Nemesis.

Posted by: casual observer at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (JXxGi)

208 "Non-Resident Fellow at Princeton University"

Is that one of those jobs for blacks only?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (et1vG)

-----------------

AKA "Dean of Spades"

[h/t Michael Obama and Reggie Love]

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (xGPu8)

209 193
For me, even worse than Warning Fatigue is that I can't get Santa Barbara to take me off the alert list. I haven't lived there in 10 years and I'm STILL getting flood and wildfire warnings from those fuckers, even after contacting them and demanding they remove me.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
=========
You were warned. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave.

Welcome to the Hotel California.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)

210 I am but a mere caveman, but wind farms have got to be affecting the weather.

Apparenty they do, but only in a localized area. Like big cities are heat sinks and that slightly affects the weather around them, but only in that area.

Those big wind farms disrupt weather patterns downwind of the turbines for a ways, not sure how far. Its not hundreds of miles, though, its turbulence for a little ways.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (dfIr7)

211 Whites leave - White Flight
Whites stay - Gentrification
Whites die - Happy Left
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (VPwHp

Astute

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (VofaG)

212 190 The Mystic camp has 750 girls. It must be on a huge piece of property. Not to minimize the tragedy, but this only affected a small number of girls in a small area of the camp (the part near the river). As I speculated above, this was most likely a freak accident that could not have been prevented by any realistic warning system.

you are right as rain Elric

things like this happen. Nature is lovely but it's apt to kill you
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

I think it's been there for 95 years. I suspect there are Texas families who have sent 4 generations of girls there, all without mishap.

Posted by: LASue at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (lCppi)

213 So you do believe in man made climate change?

Because if man can do it intentionally then why can't it happen unintentionally?

not in the aggregate

what they're doing is cloud-seeding, essentially. and putting particulate in the sky to block solar rays.

the amount of water in the atmosphere doesn't change, so when they mess around cloud seeding (and this has been known since the practice was openly done in California ages ago!) they end up helping one area with more rain and causing droughts elsewhere. they're not manufacturing H2O! just encouraging it to fall out of the atmosphere in a specific place with the particulate.

and in some cases they think putting that gunk up there will keep the temps a bit lower. no idea if they even care what that does when it inevitably falls to earth. salts the plant life, at the very least

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (Pv3Rg)

214 You'd thunk most adults knew not to camp by a waterway.

So many waterways in some parts. Always surrounded.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot

Kinda useless to advertise swimming & boating at camp if your camp is 1.5 miles away from the river.
(Guadalupe River swole to a mile wide)

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (erzCX)

215 It's just so weird how the cause of any problem is always "global warming", "capitalism" and "Republicans", and the solution is always "communism".

What are the odds, huh?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (qpyNK)

216 the weather still sux, so manipulation is not working !

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (g47mK)

217 I am introducing a bill that prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of chemicals or substances into the atmosphere for the express purpose of altering weather, temperature, climate, or sunlight intensity. It will be a felony offense.

I have been researching weather modification and working with the legislative counsel for months writing this bill.
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Surprised the climate crisis cult hasn't gone off of that.
Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Greene's Weather Machine at July 07, 2025 12:33 PM (Q4IgG)

She expressly does not mention cloud seeding done in an effort to trigger rainfall in drought-stricken areas. I wonder why?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (ztIZS)

218 Michelle

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (xGPu

Yeah she's definitely a "Fellow"

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (VPwHp)

219 City people need to quit commenting on country issues.

Wisdom.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (ExV1e)

220 For me, even worse than Warning Fatigue is that I can't get Santa Barbara to take me off the alert list. I haven't lived there in 10 years and I'm STILL getting flood and wildfire warnings from those fuckers, even after contacting them and demanding they remove me.
_____

Your voter registration will remain in perpetuity. One way to acheive a kind of immortality. Congrats!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (Dv3i1)

221 Weird how native job gains almost match non-native job losses for ... jobs Americans won't do

Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

Millions of illegals have been removed or self deported and its affecting crime, traffic, insurance, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (dfIr7)

222 Weird how native job gains almost match non-native job losses for ... jobs Americans won't do
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

It was always thus. Labor economics is rather simple supply and demand. And since forever, most of those hiring workers want their labor as cheap as possible so as to maximize their returns.

All the Tech bros hiring a bunch of coolie labor are doing, is privatize the gains and collectivize the losses.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)

223
ow-ow-OW!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (5hfjS)

224 The Mystic camp has 750 girls. It must be on a huge piece of property. Not to minimize the tragedy, but this only affected a small number of girls in a small area of the camp (the part near the river). As I speculated above, this was most likely a freak accident that could not have been prevented by any realistic warning system.

you are right as rain Elric

things like this happen. Nature is lovely but it's apt to kill you
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:02 PM (Pv3Rg)
___

Yup. I'm a big skier. A big risk to backcountry skiers is avalanches. There is an advanced warning system and protocols for determining avalanche risk. Most avalanche deaths -- and there are many -- are from idiots ignoring the warnings. But there are quite a few deaths even when skiers (or mountain climbers) do everything right. They heed warnings, don't take unnecessary risks -- and still get killed. Nature can be a lethal bitch.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (iFTx/)

225 O/T and filed under "Unexpectedly:"]

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They own the data.
They shape the code.
And now they’re wiring themselves directly into the system that’s supposed to “think” for you.

This isn’t innovation.
It’s infiltration.

https://is.gd/dcEG6H

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (xGPu8)

226 Whites leave - White Flight
Whites stay - Gentrification
Whites die - Happy Left
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (VPwHp

Astute
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (VofaG)
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Common practice used to be: Young couple would find a run down house at a good price in marginal neighborhood, fix it up, make it nice. Other people follow suit and, all of a sudden, in a decade or so, the run down neighborhood is no longer run down. But, somehow, that's bad.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (tT6L1)

227 It was better when it was titled Moon.
Posted by: toby928 reminds you at July 07, 2025 12:59 PM (jc0TO)
____

Hah I was going to snark the same thing.

Whatever happened to claiming someone 'Schumered' you? Haven't heard that in a while. I guess her 15 minutes of aos fame ran out.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (VofaG)

228
‘Speak Spanish or get out of here’ Mexicans protest gentrification and U.S. migration
ANI News
youtube.com/watch?v=1_4rEKAinWg

Not just irony. Add in aluminumy, silvery, titaniumy...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (y9nCu)

229 >>City people need to quit commenting on country issues.

Because Hayseeds have ALL the answers.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (Bi+MU)

230 Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

Millions of illegals have been removed or self deported and its affecting crime, traffic, insurance, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Many of those illegals remaining are also keeping a low profile since drunk driving,etc. might credibly now get them deported.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)

231 And we must through much tribulation enter into the Kingdom of God. Acts

Posted by: Kingsman at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (ehY6c)

232 No idea how big this camp is but would sirens outside its property be even heard?

Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 01:09 PM (+qU29)

233 Mystic camp cover 725 acres.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 01:09 PM (4UCRK)

234 Schumering is now a move where you put cheese on a raw burger right before you're about to flip it.

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:09 PM (VPwHp)

235 Yup. I'm a big skier. A big risk to backcountry skiers is avalanches. There is an advanced warning system and protocols for determining avalanche risk. Most avalanche deaths -- and there are many -- are from idiots ignoring the warnings. But there are quite a few deaths even when skiers (or mountain climbers) do everything right. They heed warnings, don't take unnecessary risks -- and still get killed. Nature can be a lethal bitch.

Elric we are all skiers too. So yes. We probably have a different perspective

been on a mountain when bad things have happened, luckily we got down ok but others didn't

a river or a lake doesn't seem like Killington or anything, but it's sublime moreso than "pretty" ... for a reason

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Pv3Rg)

236 Many of those illegals remaining are also keeping a low profile since drunk driving,etc. might credibly now get them deported.
Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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I also suspect they're more than happy to see the thugs and whatnot be removed, because they really didn't like gang members, rapists and other human debris raising their profile in the community.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 07, 2025 01:10 PM (tT6L1)

237 >>Mystic camp cover 725 acres.

Just over 1 sq mile.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Bi+MU)

238 You could see the same thing happening in MO this spring with all the tornadoes.

On the one hand, growing up in North Texas, I recall that "tornado warning" meant that someone had, no shit, seen a tornado with their own eyes. Now it means that radar says things look hinky.

OTOH, I understand that the increased warning time has saved lives.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:11 PM (ExV1e)

239 230 Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

seeing this myself! everyone is starting to note it.

and like it.

the Left is unhappy and will try to paper it over somehow

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:11 PM (Pv3Rg)

240 Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 07, 2025 01:03 PM (ufFY

Link? Otherwise you are being a tease.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...antisemite at July 07, 2025 01:11 PM (Zv8bq)

241 In a medium sized city, what is the density of warning sirens?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:11 PM (erzCX)

242 Speak Spanish or get out of here’ Mexicans protest

El fucko de offo.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 01:11 PM (9Qx17)

243 Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

Millions of illegals have been removed or self deported and its affecting crime, traffic, insurance, etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (dfIr7)

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Before escaping Califzuela a dozen years ago, my favorite day of the year was "A day without an illegal!"

My freeway commute went from 45 to 10 minutes each way.

They really showed us!

Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (xGPu8)

244 You'd thunk most adults knew not to camp by a waterway.

So many waterways in some parts. Always surrounded.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot

Kinda useless to advertise swimming & boating at camp if your camp is 1.5 miles away from the river.
(Guadalupe River swole to a mile wide)

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:06 PM (erzCX)

Yes, waterways are a camp destination, especially in Summer. Wife said the river rose a reported 26 feet. As someone noted, that is a 100 year flash flood, and nothing short of absolute government prohibition of use could have prevented loss of life here, a restriction nobody would have supported.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (i24o9)

245 Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

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YES!! I've commented on this before , lighter traffic. maybe fewer accidents too. and ... the crime is down, no?

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (g47mK)

246 But nothing can get in the way of their hot takes.

People read something on twitter which either makes them mad or conforms to their biases so they blast it out to their "followers". And then it becomes "known".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (ExV1e)

247 Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

Millions of illegals have been removed or self deported and its affecting crime, traffic, insurance, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Many of those illegals remaining are also keeping a low profile since drunk driving,etc. might credibly now get them deported.
Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
_______

The number of incredibly annoying and dangerous delivery guys on their way-too-fast electric bikes -- 99% of which are obvious illegals -- are definitely down. The cops have also started cracking down on them. I'm convinced that 90% of the rise of traffic accidents is due to these cocksuckers on their bikes.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (iFTx/)

248 Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:04 PM (Pv3R

My point of course is we put significantly more gunk into the air without the intention to change the weather or atmosphere or levels of X . Do you think that affects the weather?

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (VofaG)

249 Seems like only yesterday that the DU loonies were blaming Bush for the tsunami in Indonesia.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (Y5pM4)

250 Every area on earth floods. Just depends on how often.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (wLVMR)

251 what were we living in , last 30 years ??!!

Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (g47mK)

252 Florida & Tennessee recently passed legislation to stop weather modification release into the atmosphere.

Posted by: Braenard - some Best Friends are more important than others at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (pSvqQ)

253 I think the camp managers should have been better prepared based on topographic data and past experience.

Posted by: fd at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (vFG9F)

254 Mexico needs more protesters. We should send them more of ours.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (bvNHo)

255
One wonders whether being no doubt slotted into a "token-only" position herself, and probably more than once, Sade Perkins is expressing the rage of a tokenized persyn herself.

It sucks to have gone all in on the race card for your own life, only to find that you fast tracked yourself into tokenhood, doesn't it, Sade?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (xG4kz)

256 Schumering is now a move where you put cheese on a raw burger right before you're about to flip it.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:09 PM

I thought Schumering was releasing digestive system outputs toward a rotating air mover.

Isn't that the precursor to the Schumer Hits the Fan?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (0sNs1)

257 YES!! I've commented on this before , lighter traffic. maybe fewer accidents too. and ... the crime is down, no?
Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (g47m

Less uninsured drivers !

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (VofaG)

258 247 The number of incredibly annoying and dangerous delivery guys on their way-too-fast electric bikes -- 99% of which are obvious illegals -- are definitely down. The cops have also started cracking down on them. I'm convinced that 90% of the rise of traffic accidents is due to these cocksuckers on their bikes.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (iFTx/)

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This sounds like traffic in New Dehli.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (GBKbO)

259 Common practice used to be: Young couple would find a run down house at a good price in marginal neighborhood, fix it up, make it nice. Other people follow suit and, all of a sudden, in a decade or so, the run down neighborhood is no longer run down. But, somehow, that's bad.
Posted by: blake
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Housing is an interesting market for economists because it is a 'sticky' good that is also packed in with public goods tied to that property--schools, community, services, nearness to jobs, traffic, and public safety.

The old saw was to find the cheapest house in a 'nice' subdivision that you can afford--you get the rest of the package of public goods but pay less for it.

That is also why leftists think this is 'unfair' that newcomers can change a neighborhood through sweat equity, etc. from those that lived there by outbidding them for properties in that neighborhood. Risk for newcomers never comes into lefty heads because everything is a zero sum game for them.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)

260 My point of course is we put significantly more gunk into the air without the intention to change the weather or atmosphere or levels of X . Do you think that affects the weather?

no idea. I do know that jets fly higher than the particle distributors - those are small planes and quite visible

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:14 PM (Pv3Rg)

261 Communist Mayor of Los Angeles, Communist possible Mayor of New Your, Communist media Ghouls. Lot of this going around

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 07, 2025 01:14 PM (JtH6i)

262 Every area on earth floods. Just depends on how often.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM

Analysis: True.

Posted by: zombie Noah at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (0sNs1)

263 This isn’t innovation.
It’s infiltration.

https://is.gd/dcEG6H
Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (xGPu

"How do you like the AI we're making for you, sir?"

"It's good... it's... ok.... but... could you maybe put a chick in it, and make it lame and gay?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (VoAdT)

264 The number of incredibly annoying and dangerous delivery guys on their way-too-fast electric bikes -- 99% of which are obvious illegals -- are definitely down. The cops have also started cracking down on them. I'm convinced that 90% of the rise of traffic accidents is due to these cocksuckers on their bikes.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade
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Some hipsters will be bemoaning that loss of vibrancy in the Atlantic or New Yorker soon. Willing to lay odds.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

265 The number of incredibly annoying and dangerous delivery guys on their way-too-fast electric bikes -- 99% of which are obvious illegals -- are definitely down. The cops have also started cracking down on them. I'm convinced that 90% of the rise of traffic accidents is due to these cocksuckers on their bikes.

ooh maybe cracking down on uber eats etc will cause them to go out of business?

because I hate the heck out of that whole trend

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (Pv3Rg)

266
Yup. I'm a big skier. A big risk to backcountry skiers is avalanches. There is an advanced warning system and protocols for determining avalanche risk. Most avalanche deaths -- and there are many -- are from idiots ignoring the warnings. But there are quite a few deaths even when skiers (or mountain climbers) do everything right. They heed warnings, don't take unnecessary risks -- and still get killed. Nature can be a lethal bitch.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:07 PM (iFTx/)

Mother Nature is a serial killer.

It's amazing to see the lengths man will go to in order to monitor and mitigate avalanches. Crazy doods coming down sheer cliffs on skis to monitor snow conditions, or ski resorts like Alyeska in Alaska which has Army surplus recoilless rifles set up to intentionally set off controlled avalanches.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (y9nCu)

267 Same thing with avalanches. People build in known avalanche paths. For 29 years out of 30, nothing happens other than a great location and views in the valley. But then that one year comes ...
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:39 PM (iFTx/)

Mt. Rainier lahar people are going to love hot mud-surfing.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (i24o9)

268 Because Hayseeds have ALL the answers.

Posted by: garrett

Nope. But we do things differently out here.
Time and space are different when you don't have 1,000 people per square mile.
Cow loose on 635 in Dallas stops traffic.
Cow loose out here doesn't even rate a mention.

But they'll try to make it sound like it's the end of the world.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (erzCX)

269 The cabins closest to the river are for the youngest campers.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 12:54 PM (VofaG)
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*headdesk*
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (ULPxl)
~~~~~

The camp has been there for years and never suffered such a catastrophe before. My guess is that the younger ones were housed where they were because it was a shorter distance for them to the activities and no uphill climb, etc.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (3ImbR)

270 I hope after all the lawsuits, the assassination attempts, the black robed queens and kings trying to stymie his agenda and the blame directed towards him, Trump doesn’t say, before the end of his term “To hell with all this. I’m outta here. It’s all yours J.D.” Hopefully he’s too stubborn for that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (gxcfL)

271 Yup. I'm a big skier. A big risk to backcountry skiers is avalanches. There is an advanced warning system and protocols for determining avalanche risk. Most avalanche deaths -- and there are many -- are from idiots ignoring the warnings. But there are quite a few deaths even when skiers (or mountain climbers) do everything right. They heed warnings, don't take unnecessary risks -- and still get killed. Nature can be a lethal bitch.

Elric we are all skiers too. So yes. We probably have a different perspective

been on a mountain when bad things have happened, luckily we got down ok but others didn't

a river or a lake doesn't seem like Killington or anything, but it's sublime moreso than "pretty" ... for a reason
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:10 PM (Pv3Rg)
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I was caught in an avalanche while heliskiing in Alaska. We did everything right. Everyone else skied down the slope one at a time ("OAT"), which is the right way to do it. I was last to go. I was ready to drop in ... then, wham.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (iFTx/)

272 That trash black gal said, "I'm over here kiki-in.g" What does that mean?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (PMtkd)

273 Remember if we have bad weather it was caused by "climate change" and if we have good weather well that's just the weather and you can't draw and conclusions about climate from local weather

Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (t0Rmr)

274 264 Some hipsters will be bemoaning that loss of vibrancy in the Atlantic or New Yorker soon. Willing to lay odds.
Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

=======

"I wondered if I could get 3am Thai. I looked at the app, and it wouldn't show up until 4am! I'm here for 3am Thai! Not 4am Thai! Bring back all the illegals!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

275 Because Hayseeds have ALL the answers.

Posted by: garrett

We rural folk know how to deal with city slickers like you!

Posted by: Ned Beatty Ring A Bell? at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (G5+As)

276 I don't get the anti-gentrification thinking. If you're a property owner, "gentrification" would be a great boon to you as your property value would go up. If you're a renter, it would probably negatively affect you.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (XMwZJ)

277 Less uninsured drivers!

And fewer congestion!

Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (77rzZ)

278 The timing was the worst possible case - the final evacuation warning was sent out at 4 AM, by 7 AM everything was at full flood and the damage already done. I've seen some time lapse video and the water's rise is incredible - 30 feet in 90 minutes in many cases. The Guadalupe River went from being 20 yards across to a mile wide.
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I saw a video of that. The water went from a trickle, 40' down from a bridge, to cresting over the bridge. And, of course, some idiots tried to drive over it.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:41 PM (Riz8t)

I saw some video of police vehicles driving over a concrete bridge after the flood. The guardrails were gone, and the metal stanchions that supported the guardrails that hadn't been pulled out of the concrete were bent over at 90 degrees. The flow rate of the river water had to have been crazy high.

I saw a bit of news conference and the (At Scene Commander?) said that had been been pre-positioning assets that preceding Wed or Thursday. He also said part of the problem with any warning system down there was a lack of cell phone reception in the flood area. He said the warning could be broadcast, but not be heard.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (pJWtt)

279 In re weather alerts: I want to hear about the local river rising past food stage. I also want to live far away from the river on higher ground. The parents of our new youth minister lived in a pleasant riverside home on the north side of the county (river is boundary with the next county). They’ve been flooded twice: once in Hurricane Helene, and again in more recent heavy rains. Friend of mine had a second house on his property (his children used to live there I think) so he is loaning that out for the folks to live in, until they get settled. I don’t want a scenic waterway anywhere near my house, thank you!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (ZVgZ4)

280 276 I don't get the anti-gentrification thinking. If you're a property owner, "gentrification" would be a great boon to you as your property value would go up. If you're a renter, it would probably negatively affect you.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (XMwZJ)

========

My favorite 80s movie trend was the evil developer trying to pay money to people to leave shit hole tenements to build something nicer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

281 People will build on "100 year flood plains"...and when 50 years later there is flooding that destroys what they built the FNM will tell us that is do to climate change...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (t0Rmr)

282 Sade Perkins was one of the ghouls that outed herself. Another, probably far more concerning one was Dr Christina Propst. She is a Houston based pediatrician who said the people, "got what they voted for." Blue Fish Pediatrics suspended her, then fired her.

http://tiny.cc/dkuo001
Posted by: bonhomme at July 07, 2025 12:42 PM (lIio7)

One bitch
Two bitch
Guess who don’t
Work for Blue Fish

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (EjxLG)

283 152 Some people were saying the NWS was understaffed and no warning went out.
***
False. Some bitch reporter badgered Trump with this BS on his tarmac briefing with Howard Lutnick.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (WHfpM)

284 Julia Ryan was probably not thinking clearly. Yes, lots of stuff was probably around to break the glass - but that does not diminish his heroism.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (2myyY)

285 Risk for newcomers never comes into lefty heads because everything is a zero sum game for them.
Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)

They also don't believe in risk. Everything should be safe and guaranteed.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (rF2iL)

286 I think it should be fairly straightforward to build a local early warning apparatus next to the river. It doesn't do anything until water triggers it, at which point, a very loud siren goes off, or at least wakes up someone tasked with deciding if it's a real emergency.

How many miles of the Guadalupe River are in Kerr county? How far away can the sirens be heard? How many hundreds of towers need to be constructed with thousands of miles of wire? How many people needed to repair and maintain them?

Who pays for it?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

287 Skiing is suicide by mountain.

Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (77rzZ)

288 246 But nothing can get in the way of their hot takes.

People read something on twitter which either makes them mad or conforms to their biases so they blast it out to their "followers". And then it becomes "known".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Gresham's law applied to twitter or any other social media---bad commenters drive out the good. And worse, many of those bad commenters are foreign trolls or bots.

Scottish nationalist posts on UK boards dropped precipitously when Iran shut down access to the internet.

I saw similar drops in tech website comment sections at a few places that are normally a dumpster fire.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (ctrM5)

289 The campsite is at the confluence of two creeks and the Guadalupe. Looking at a topo map it is clearly in the floodplain.

Posted by: fd at July 07, 2025 01:19 PM (vFG9F)

290 I've come to the conclusion that wind, over time, is probably more destructive than any other phenomenon.

Most of the damage done here has been the result of wind + something... hail mostly. It blows shit everywhere, sometimes with great force. It can last for days, weeks.

Just yesterday the wind pulled a patio umbrella out of it's stand and tossed it across the deck. A "mild" gust.

Posted by: Marjorie Taylor Greene's Weather Machine at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (Q4IgG)

291 One bitch
Two bitch
Guess who don’t
Work for Blue Fish

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (EjxLG)

*golf clap*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (i24o9)

292 Climate journalist = professional liar.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (rJ48h)

293 Posted by: IrishEi at July 07, 2025 01:15 PM (3ImbR)

I don't have a problem with that set up. I'm just saying common sense would have had you move the campers based on the forecast and seeing the river rise.

I guess I see that because of the repeated flooding of the Trinity and San Jacinto over a decade. People finally got the message to take appropriate action based on the forecasts and their own observations of changes.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (VofaG)

294 287 Skiing is suicide by mountain.

the way I do it it's like a slightly faster less taxing walk down a mountain the snow lol

the way the kids do it, it's like flying

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (Pv3Rg)

295 "down a mountain in the snow"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (Pv3Rg)

296 F'n raccoon on the front porch eating dry cat food.

City response? 5 cop cars and two animal control trucks.

Out here? Open the front door and yell boo.

No media. No interviews. No dissertations on how it could might possibly probably 12% chance that it could maybe possibly be rabid.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:20 PM (erzCX)

297 Who pays for it?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

How dare you...it's for the children!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 07, 2025 01:21 PM (Zv8bq)

298 I don't get the anti-gentrification thinking. If you're a property owner, "gentrification" would be a great boon to you as your property value would go up. If you're a renter, it would probably negatively affect you.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 01:16 PM (XMwZJ)

========

My favorite 80s movie trend was the evil developer trying to pay money to people to leave shit hole tenements to build something nicer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)
____________

"I had a better plan"

-- Isaak O'Day

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 01:21 PM (iFTx/)

299 Who pays for it?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

Exactly.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

300 Bulg, I see we are speaking gooder english agin

Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 01:21 PM (D7oie)

301 Another interesting effect, traffic and accidents appear to be down. People are showing traffic maps of cities like Los Angeles noting that they have never in their young lives seen the traffic this light before.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Was near downtown LA on Friday and ran into very little traffic. Can't discount that people stayed home after the 4th, but it was so light that it was shocking.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 07, 2025 01:21 PM (4DY5T)

302 City response? 5 cop cars and two animal control trucks.

ha ha ha!

no

city of Philadelphia response: nothing

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:21 PM (Pv3Rg)

303 Another, probably far more concerning one was Dr Christina Propst. She is a Houston based pediatrician who said the people, "got what they voted for."

And four days ago would have told you that she went into pediatrics because she just loves children oh so much. Good on Blue Fish for taking out the trash.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 07, 2025 01:22 PM (/y8xj)

304 Best laid plans . . .

https://is.gd/MTVPzH

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 01:22 PM (L/fGl)

305 I don't get the anti-gentrification thinking. If you're a property owner, "gentrification" would be a great boon to you as your property value would go up. If you're a renter, it would probably negatively affect you.

This whole "issue" is odd. Gentrification is normally about an area around a big blue city getting converted from low cost apartments to high cost condos. This is rich leftists replacing poor leftists. And the whole reason for it is that leftists in government divert government spending to those big blue cities to increase the graft the rich leftists can steal .

And then of course this is all blamed somehow on conservatives who generally don't live in the big blue cities and certainly have no political sway in them.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 01:22 PM (t0Rmr)

306 And on an unrelated ( to global warming) note, I went to an Apple Store where most of the workers are pretty young and knowledgeable and pleasant, there was a nice person with “he and they “ as their pronouns on his name tag. What the heck does “They”mean? The person identifes as no gender? Both genders?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 07, 2025 01:22 PM (4nN12)

307 "But nothing can get in the way of their hot takes."

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That's the whole ball of wax.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (PMtkd)

308 We knew this was coming. They were just waiting for the right disaster. It's another iteration of Bush and Katrina with added vileness. They have nothing else to go with.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (WHfpM)
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Never let a crisis go to waste. I fully expect a rapper to go on camera and claim President Trump hates black people or something. It's like they play the same playbook over and over.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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OMG!!!
The latinos are eating babies in the HS auditorium!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (/lPRQ)

309 New cars sense rain on the windshield using a rain sensor, typically located behind the rearview mirror. This sensor uses infrared light to detect moisture on the glass. When raindrops are present, they scatter the light, and the sensor detects the reduced amount of reflected light, triggering the wipers to activate and adjust their speed based on the perceived rain intensity.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:49 PM (Riz8t)

Nifty technology, but ultimately a useless gadget. Just how stupid does one have to be to not turn on the windshield wipers when the glass gets speckled with raindrops? The effort required to flip the switch would not tax a cadaver.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (Q87aE)

310 Skiing is suicide by mountain.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM

In some cases, it's by tree.

Posted by: zombie Sonny Bono at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (0sNs1)

311 Er, downtown on Saturday, not Friday.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (4DY5T)

312 "What the heck does “They”mean? The person identifes as no gender? Both genders?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

There are several people in there.

Posted by: fd at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (vFG9F)

313
They also don't believe in risk. Everything should be safe and guaranteed.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump!

"Covered by insurance! Covered by insurance!"

"Bwwaaaawwwwwwkkkkk!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 07, 2025 01:23 PM (xG4kz)

314 My favorite 80s movie trend was the evil developer trying to pay money to people to leave shit hole tenements to build something nicer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

LEAVE THE BRONX!!

Posted by: Henry Silva at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (PSEDc)

315 Newby Street Tacos
Get your Newby Street Tacos.

- Street Taco Guy in HS Auditorium

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (/lPRQ)

316 >>I don't get the anti-gentrification thinking. If you're a property owner, "gentrification" would be a great boon to you as your property value would go up. If you're a renter, it would probably negatively affect you

The last part is where the problem comes in. I lived in Boston when we went through a major gentrification. Great for us property owners, not so much for the renters. And we heard about it a lot.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (viF8m)

317 What the heck does “They”mean? The person identifes as no gender? Both genders?

Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”

“My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.”

Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)

318 "What the heck does “They”mean? The person identifes as no gender? Both genders?
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It means they don't identify as a person. It's sad.

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (VPwHp)

319 How many miles of the Guadalupe River are in Kerr county? How far away can the sirens be heard? How many hundreds of towers need to be constructed with thousands of miles of wire? How many people needed to repair and maintain them?

Who pays for it?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

The Guadalupe River is a 370km long river that originates in the western portion of Kerr County in the US State of Texas. After flowing through several counties of Texas, the Guadalupe River finally drains into the San Antonio Bay,

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (erzCX)

320 279 In re weather alerts: I want to hear about the local river rising past food stage. I also want to live far away from the river on higher ground. The parents of our new youth minister lived in a pleasant riverside home on the north side of the county … I don’t want a scenic waterway anywhere near my house, thank you!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at

Kansas is missing waterways, but you get tornadoes to Oz. I am not sure of an area that doesn’t have potential weather issues. We have hurricanes and tornadoes. Flooding obviously happens with hurricanes, though despite being able to see Mobile Bay from our porch, we are high enough we aren’t considered a flood risk. Our house is supposedly built to withstand a cat 5 hurricane. But I would probably not stay in it to test the theory. The trade off is we have amazing beaches and winter is 3 weeks long, we are freezing at 45 degrees. We had once in a lifetime snow this year and no idea what to do with it!

Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 01:25 PM (pZEOD)

321 "How many hundreds of towers need to be constructed with thousands of miles of wire? How many people needed to repair and maintain them?" Posted by: I used to have a different nic

This might be a case for solar panels and small batteries, and some sort of radio/cell connection to each other. Would need them upstream from areas like the camp. I'm guessing some of the fed funds might be used for some such system.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 07, 2025 01:25 PM (vbXSk)

322 Do kids even ski anymore? I thought it was 90% snowboarding.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:25 PM (VofaG)

323 276 I don't get the anti-gentrification thinking. If you're a property owner, "gentrification" would be a great boon to you as your property value would go up. If you're a renter, it would probably negatively affect you.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent
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Property is weird--unlike an investment like a stock, mutual fund, cd, etc., property is essentially paying rent to yourself. So inflated prices when you do not want to sell simply raise collateral costs like insurance, property taxes, and investors trying to flip houses as neighbors.

Unlike investors, people buying a home to live in have attached public goods to that particular property that are 'sticky' in that other places may not have the same package bundled with your good.

Owner occupied homes are generally non-liquid investments and unrealized gains are just that, zero if you do not want to sell because of other factors.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:25 PM (ctrM5)

324 country people know about as much about city living as city people know about country living.

"They don't know anything about us except the nonsense they see on tv, because they're all stupid. But we know everything about them, because we watch tv."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 01:25 PM (VoAdT)

325 What the heck does “They”mean?

Means don't buy Apple.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 01:25 PM (zZ9Wr)

326 o primo dos por Ingles.

Posted by: IVR system at July 07, 2025 01:26 PM (0sNs1)

327 24,000 live in 1,080 square miles. (.04 people per square mile)

No warning system would have worked. Especially at 2:30 am.
Posted by: rickb223
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24 per square mile?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Did I do it backwards? I probably did.
Yeah. 24 people per square mile.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:57 PM (erzCX)

This whole exchange positively reeks of math.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:26 PM (ExV1e)

328 This is a pretty good video of some of the flood and devastation.
There's a woman from Hunt TX that clearly says they get weather alerts for flash floods all the time, like amber alerts, but they ignored the wrong one this time.

You can hear her at 3:20

https://youtu.be/5R_4VQuBRJs

Posted by: Rex B at July 07, 2025 01:26 PM (n8d+Q)

329 The Guadalupe River is a 370km long river that originates in the western portion of Kerr County in the US State of Texas. After flowing through several counties of Texas, the Guadalupe River finally drains into the San Antonio Bay,
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (erzCX)

Get an American description ! 😀

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:27 PM (VofaG)

330 The number of incredibly annoying and dangerous delivery guys on their way-too-fast electric bikes -- 99% of which are obvious illegals -- are definitely down.

I have an electric bike but it only goes around 20 mph max (which to me at least is frighteningly fast on a bicycle). Those really fast one are like motorcycles that aren't built quite as ruggedly. They seem really unsafe to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:27 PM (dfIr7)

331 The Julian Ryan story is sad and tragic, but a bit odd. There's hundreds of things in my house I could use to break a window before I'd use my hand/arm. And why not use a door? Don't know any details about his particular situation at that moment, so can't judge. Maybe a panic situation...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (XMwZJ)

Perhaps the flood water was already several feet above the door sill and they couldn't open it? For whatever reason, he thought time was of the essence.

Dude died knowing he got his family to safety. There's worse ways to die.

Well done, Julian Ryan. RIP.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 07, 2025 01:28 PM (pJWtt)

332 I miss Democrat presidents where the media would just ignore the mass murders, natural disasters, inflation, dead soldiers, etc

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:28 PM (VPwHp)

333 Warning signs: preacher had a story in the morning sermon about some young girls, in their early twenties I guess, who went to Niagara Falls to take selfies. To get the most dramatic shot they had to get right out to the guard rails, where it’s all wet and slippery. This is right over the falls, mind you. The guard rail is plastered all over with warning signs about not leaning over the railing, and so forth. Of course one of the girls has to get a selfie of herself on the other side of the guard rail. So, despite all the warning signs she climbs over, and gets her selfie. Then as she’s trying to climb back over the guard rail, she slips and falls to her death. You should pay attention to warning signs!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 01:28 PM (ZVgZ4)

334 country people know about as much about city living as city people know about country living.

Sounds like each group should heed each other when it comes to their lives and experiences then? Maybe rural people know more about living in rural areas and dealing with the wilds and urban people more about living in the cities?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:28 PM (dfIr7)

335 Audra:

https://tinyurl.com/35nuyj39

Today she was revealing about 57.83% of her boobs. Quite spectacular. No pics of that yet.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 07, 2025 01:29 PM (ufFY8)

336 I've lived in a city and that's why I am a country person.

Posted by: fd at July 07, 2025 01:29 PM (vFG9F)

337 Get an American description ! 😀
Posted by: polynikes

229 miles.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:29 PM (erzCX)

338 Dude died knowing he got his family to safety. There's worse ways to die.

That's the way every man I know wants to die. Not in a hospital bed, not rotting away of a disease, not in a car full of screaming passengers, but heroically saving the ones you love.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:30 PM (dfIr7)

339 314 My favorite 80s movie trend was the evil developer trying to pay money to people to leave shit hole tenements to build something nicer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Some developers in some expensive markets did pay goons, etc. but the usual tactic was to simply quit paying for maintenance, quit keeping the building up to codes, bring in housing voucher types, and let the place run down as it depreciates. Then sell it to another slumlord who spirals the property condition down even more. Repeat until abandoned as unlivable then the squatters move in for 'free'.

Other places though, like St. Louis, landlords and owners just walked away from the properties that promptly decayed into eyesores and squats.

Posted by: whig at July 07, 2025 01:30 PM (ctrM5)

340 I've lived in a city and that's why I am a country person.
Posted by: fd

Fist bump.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:30 PM (erzCX)

341 322 Do kids even ski anymore? I thought it was 90% snowboarding.

the boys do both but still prefer skiing. they are tall as all heck tho

I think snowboarding just wasn't a good fit for them but they do it with their lil friends sometimes heh

they like going FAST

one of their favorite mountains - mad river glen - didn't allow snowboarding, ski only

I think they're changing that this year sadly

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:30 PM (Pv3Rg)

342 The future of country music.

https://is.gd/uMt3QW

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 01:31 PM (L/fGl)

343 Nood! The left and the left only are in need of gun control laws.

Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 01:31 PM (pZEOD)

344 Guadalupe River is a 370km long river that originates in the western portion of Kerr County in the US State of Texas. After flowing through several counties of Texas, the Guadalupe River finally drains into the San Antonio Bay,
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 01:24 PM (erzCX)

Get an American description ! 😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:27 PM (VofaG)

You would need 10 beers or four whiskeys to get across the river at its narrowest point

Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 01:32 PM (VPwHp)

345 >>> 286
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How many miles of the Guadalupe River are in Kerr county? How far away can the sirens be heard? How many hundreds of towers need to be constructed with thousands of miles of wire? How many people needed to repair and maintain them?

Who pays for it?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

We know gubmint wants to spend as much as possible (and on themselves, not the hostage puppy), but that doesn't mean we need to put a *river* warning system on every fcking square inch of the county. How many miles of the Guadalupe go through Kerrville? Could we start by putting up towers with overlapping coverage in the bigger towns, and maybe tourist traps? How much do tornado sirens cost?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 01:32 PM (ULPxl)

346 ... country people know about as much about city living as city people know about country living.

Hmmm.

So this 'city living' is like having to go to a 'store' in winter because you cannot just get fresh food from the yard. Except every day?

Sounds very confusing.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 07, 2025 01:32 PM (/lPRQ)

347 When I moved to NYC after college, I am almost positive I was not considered for jobs in the advertising field because they thought I was a southern hick. Admittedly I had a strong southern accent at the time and stupidly wore boots with my suit ( high dollar ostrich skin in my defense) . And no one ever heard of McNeese University . I couldn't even get a job in the mail room .

I thought my portfolio was pretty good too.

Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 01:32 PM (VofaG)

348 Today she was revealing about 57.83% of her boobs.

I am impressed with your precision, I get an image of you up at the TV screen with calipers

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 01:33 PM (dfIr7)

349 Nifty technology, but ultimately a useless gadget. Just how stupid does one have to be to not turn on the windshield wipers when the glass gets speckled with raindrops? The effort required to flip the switch would not tax a cadaver.
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Being able to focus on driving instead of adjusting the wiper speed up and down is really kinda nice and useful.

For example, yesterday driving from McAllen:
Sunny--> heavy rain, can barely see--> barely a mist --> heavy rain, barely see--> sunny.

In less than 30 minutes.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VlwBF)

350 The video of how quickly the river was rising in a short period of time. Truly incredible.

https://tinyurl.com/yp6aaxn4

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 07, 2025 01:35 PM (5xuJ/)

351 Property is weird--unlike an investment like a stock, mutual fund, cd, etc., property is essentially paying rent to yourself. So inflated prices when you do not want to sell simply raise collateral costs like insurance, property taxes, and investors trying to flip houses as neighbors.

This is an interesting trend in the area I live in. The people born here are leaving, mostly being replaced by people from the local big blue shitty or India/China.

The general sentiment is "rising house prices are GOOD" but if you aren't looking to sell all it means are more taxes. And if you can't afford to pay the increased taxes? FU sell.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 01:35 PM (t0Rmr)

352 notification abuse = notification fatigue

this is why having an NOAA radio and using it if you're in a flood plain or tornado area is a good idea

your phone ain't gonna help you'll just tune out all the nonsense with the few important things sprinkled in
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 07, 2025 01:00 PM (Pv3Rg)

You are right. I would even suggest going a little further. Issue NOAA radios to heads of household, and managers of camps in flood-prone areas. A big camp? several radios. Each radio to have a unique address that can be pinged individually by the transmitter. From time to time, each radio gets pinged by the transmitter: "This is a test. No weather hazard exists at this moment. Please call 555-123-456 and punch in this code xxxxxx to verify you have received the test message. Failure to acknowledge will result in a visit from county authorities."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 07, 2025 01:36 PM (CmAvO)

353 New thread - Leftist ant-government violence

Nood

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 01:37 PM (ZVgZ4)

354 your phone ain't gonna help you'll just tune out all the nonsense with the few important things sprinkled in

The amount of notifications I am already getting about "severe weather" that have no more impact on my life then checking the weather forecast is...impressive.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 01:37 PM (t0Rmr)

355 I've lived in Cities.

I've lived in places that can't be more Rural.

I have learned one thing:
People Suck.

Posted by: garrett at July 07, 2025 01:38 PM (Bi+MU)

356 The Sadie Perkins who made that comment is an animal. Period.

Some hurtful 'news' is accidental and/or timed historically, but some may be purposeful. IDK. National Geographic, Fox News, You Tube Extreme Weather, etc. have been running articles about the death & devastation of Hurricane Katrina, for weeks.

But some, like Essence magazine, even more recently: “These Systems Were Not Built For Us”: 20 Years After Hurricane Katrina — What The Storm Taught Us About Power And Preparedness, afterwards, July 7, 2025.

ABC News, July 5th. In part, "Hurricane Helene struck Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Tennessee and Virginia in September 2024. The storm caused about 250 deaths..."

"Many of those who died in Helene fell victim to massive inland flooding, rather than high winds."
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MSM doesn't rag on Democrats: Gov. Christie thanked President Obama for "springing into action," and gave him that big hug after Hurricane Sandy, the storm inflicted great damage & killed 254 people in eight countries.
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No one here or there ^ was in Kerr County during the devastating flooding. Leave those poor people some peace.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 01:39 PM (NFX2v)

357 @169. There will be no national divorce.

I wish there would. If the NE states wanted to leave because they want to be socialist or communist, fine with me. Same for the Left Coast. There would be no civil war as far as I'm concerned. Who would want to fight to keep them in the union? Let 'em go. We would be better off without their constant bitching.

Posted by: Case at July 07, 2025 01:39 PM (ilX37)

358 You should pay attention to warning signs!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 01:28 PM (ZVgZ4)

This comment has been determined in the state of California to cause cancer

Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 01:40 PM (D7oie)

359 People are wondering why camps like that are built on a floodplain - well, for 25 years, that land will be beautiful pastureland with trees, with a nice lazy river running through it. Then, for 48 hours, it will become hell on earth and kill everything there. Then it will be completely fine for another 25 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (uWKK

This is pretty accurate. I wonder why people build on / near a known major earthquake fault line.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:47 PM (ExV1e)

The faults create the valleys that people can live and farm on.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 07, 2025 01:41 PM (8avO+)

360 Skiing is not something you can just do. It's years of days and days of practice, lessons and is really expensive. I'm about as good as one can get without severe dedication. As in everyday all day and able to support youself. Lots of pro boarders and skiiers start out working at resorts which is where I was able to hone my skills. I got paid to ski for a few years. Trained with the NSP (national ski patrol). Started boarding and got pretty good at it but not like skis which I've been doing since I was 6.
Skiing isn't suicide, it's living. I pitty those of you who have never experienced it to it full potential. You missed out on one of the finer things in life. Not to mention the lifestyle itself.
Ski bum isn't a bad way to go through life.

Posted by: Reforger at July 07, 2025 01:44 PM (SJnNf)

361 Full staffed FEMA under Biden sure did a bangup job in North Carolina after the Hurricane.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 01:44 PM (36PRH)

362 How many miles of the Guadalupe River are in Kerr county? How far away can the sirens be heard? How many hundreds of towers need to be constructed with thousands of miles of wire? How many people needed to repair and maintain them?

Who pays for it?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:18 PM (ExV1e)

We know gubmint wants to spend as much as possible (and on themselves, not the hostage puppy), but that doesn't mean we need to put a *river* warning system on every fcking square inch of the county. How many miles of the Guadalupe go through Kerrville? Could we start by putting up towers with overlapping coverage in the bigger towns, and maybe tourist traps? How much do tornado sirens cost?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 01:32 PM (ULPxl)

Well these days you'd probably have a Starlink system and a condensed data dump so the device wakes up every hour or so and checks the situation.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 07, 2025 01:44 PM (8avO+)

363 For example, yesterday driving from McAllen:
Sunny--> heavy rain, can barely see--> barely a mist --> heavy rain, barely see--> sunny.

In less than 30 minutes.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 07, 2025 01:33 PM (VlwBF)

Ive driven in rain so bad the wipers could not dent it. Had to open the window and look for a bridge to hide under until it went away.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 07, 2025 01:47 PM (8avO+)

364 Yes, waterways are a camp destination, especially in Summer. Wife said the river rose a reported 26 feet. As someone noted, that is a 100 year flash flood, and nothing short of absolute government prohibition of use could have prevented loss of life here, a restriction nobody would have supported.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 01:12 PM (i24o9)

In 37 the Ohio R went some 50 foot over flood stage in Cincinnati. You could row a boat over the left field wall in the baseball stadium. Not a lot you can do but hike uphill.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 07, 2025 01:52 PM (8avO+)

365 This whole exchange positively reeks of math.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 01:26 PM (ExV1e)

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I'm simple, that's why I love this comment.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 07, 2025 01:58 PM (PMtkd)

366 **How many miles of the Guadalupe River are in Kerr county? How far away can the sirens be heard? How many hundreds of towers need to be constructed with thousands of miles of wire? How many people needed to repair and maintain them?**

It would cost less, probably, to put a satellite enabled emergency radio on every home. Also, using drones as mobile alarms and flood spotters is something to be looked at.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 07, 2025 02:03 PM (tvrW2)

367 Deploy the Rohririm.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 07, 2025 02:18 PM (bvNHo)

368 I do not blame the lack of warnings, which did go out.
I do not blame the lack of a siren system, or whatever else, and so blame the victims.
I do not even blame the warning fatigue, which is quite real.

I blame the cause of the warning fatigue - the government agencies pandering to the political pressure from the ecofreaks to play up everything as the disaster the ecofreaks have been predicting for decades but never seems to happen.

Even these once-in-a-century storms have failed to rise to the apocalypse they predict, though they do inflict heartrending disaster.

Of course, when they do, those same ecofreaks immediately leap to politicizing the aid, making things worse so as to prove their fraud even as they undermine the government response they insist is required to save everyone.

I also blame the ecofreaks, and allied proggies, for this political response, as they have made it clear that is the only kind of response they understand to any such event. There is only the political for them and so I give it to them.

Posted by: Sam at July 07, 2025 03:37 PM (7jMef)

369 Brain dead Liberals are always blaming others like the Gun Lobby(NRA)Gun Stores and Gun Owners for Mass Shootings or Average Americans for Climate Change/Global Warming and the M.S. Media Bottom Feeders blame Trump for the Texas Flood since their totally Brainless Imbeciles and Screwballs

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 07, 2025 06:09 PM (wGqjj)

370 accusing them of being responsible for the deportation of illegal immigrants
Because they could have stacked them upstream of the camp and averted the catastrophe? Because that's the only link I can see other than her grotesque racism.

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