Daily Tech News 6 July 2025

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The Nvidia RTX 5090 - the fastest graphics card available - can lose up to 25% performance if it doesn't have full PCIe 5.0 x16 bandwidth. (WCCFTech)

For example, running at half speed - with either a PCIe x8 slot or PCIe 4.0 - it loses... Basically nothing. Maybe 1%.

At a quarter of the bandwidth - so PCIe 3.0 - it loses 10% of its performance.

If you drop all the way back to PCIe 2.0 you finally see that 25% performance loss.

Meaning that PCIe 5.0 doesn't improve performance unless you don't have all 16 lanes available, even on a 5090.

And if you're using it for a workload that resides mostly on the card, like AI processing, you hardly need anything. There's more variability between test runs than between a single lane and a full x16 slot.

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The OneXGPU Lite offers a Radeon 7600M GPU on a Thunderbolt 5 connection, which is... Kind of pointless. (Liliputing)

The 7600M runs at about a quarter the speed of a 5090, so it would work just fine with Thunderbolt 4. Or Thunderbolt 3, since it's exactly the same speed.
Intel has a new network card. (Serve the Home)

The E610 offers two ports at up to 10Gb speeds and uses just 5W.
Serving 200 million requests per day using CGI on an entry level server. (Simon Willison)

CGI may not be fast, but that's all relative. It scales smoothly on whatever hardware you might throw at it, and hardware these days is fast.

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: Be right back, on a bus to Vegas.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 04:31 AM (aURVT)

2 The Comments of the Week on the ONT are prime this week!

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 04:32 AM (aURVT)

3 Very sad to read about the tragedy in Texas.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 04:34 AM (ZvVgj)

4 I've been missing me some Fleetwood Mac. The twitter account @redsteeze has been pretty regularly posting a screenshot of Brian Stelter twittering "And it all points in the same direction," which, every time, get me running through the lyrics of "Gypsy."

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 04:38 AM (aURVT)

5 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 06, 2025 04:39 AM (K9xEt)

6 Intel has a new network card. (Serve the Home). The E610 offers two ports at up to 10Gb speeds and uses just 5W.

Intel? 5W? Nah. Gotta be a typo.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025 04:39 AM (NXz8h)

7
Unfortunately, Elon Musk is proving why you never give a monkey a machine gun.

It starts out as a lot of fun and scares the lame-os, but then...

Posted by: naturalfake at July 06, 2025 04:52 AM (w3Pah)

8 Tusk (Live)
Fleetwood Mac
https://youtu.be/MrRVW-p8SJ8

My favorite performance of Tusk by far. This is sort of Rock and Roll's version of Tchaikovsky's 1812 overture with real cannons.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025 04:53 AM (NXz8h)

9 It starts out as a lot of fun and scares the lame-os, but then...

Posted by: naturalfake at July 06, 2025 04:52 AM (w3Pah)
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You sound scared.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 04:57 AM (ZvVgj)

10 Once again in the 23rd hour the hamassholes change their conditions for a " ceasefire".

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2025 05:02 AM (HFcKg)

11 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at July 06, 2025 05:06 AM (AN2gy)

12 Once again in the 23rd hour the hamassholes change their conditions for a " ceasefire".

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2025 05:02 AM (HFcKg)
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I could have told you 40 years ago that this would happen.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 05:09 AM (ZvVgj)

13 Some stories about the Texas flooding, mixed among other posts, here:

https://nitter.net/MarinaMedvin

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 05:10 AM (aURVT)

14 Biden's Dog, Smotrich and Zamir are really going at it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2025 05:12 AM (HFcKg)

15 I'm looking up gif's of Lucy pulling the football and I get:

Tenor
https://tenor.com › search › lucy-pulls-the-football-gifs
A cartoon girl in a blue dress is kneeling in a field holding a bag. #Lucy-Football #peanuts lucy brown is holding a football while charlie brown is looking on.

"holding a bag"?

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 05:14 AM (aURVT)

16 Anyone who lives near a river should always be aware of the dangers. My family had a camp along the Delaware River on a elevation of about 30 ft above the river. It was built in the 1930's and had seen a lot of floods I'm sure. But newer builders built right down on the river bank. Great to live next to a river so you can just walk out and swim, but when the heavy rains always come, the river turns into a raging, roaring water way. I hated to be there on those summer nights when a storm came through and you could start hearing the river roaring. Neighbors who lived much closer to the river in elevation had better be alert, or as much as you can in the dark. Helicopter rescues weren't uncommon. I was okay because back in the day, people built higher above the river bank, newer builders like to be on the water. Saw a new double wide home go floating down the river.

Posted by: Colin at July 06, 2025 05:21 AM (wlQdF)

17 The jOuRnAliSts at Rolling Stone magazine are all upset that Alligator Alcatraz is a jail and that it poses health risks to other jOuRnAliSts.

"In a state where backyard pools are surrounded on all sides by screens, the mosquitos are so bad that television reporters are even having trouble doing their jobs."

Oh no. Not that.

https://archive.ph/SKNzf

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025 05:22 AM (NXz8h)

18 G'mornin' everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 06, 2025 05:23 AM (dKEEs)

19 More stories about the Texas flooding, mixed among other posts, here:

https://nitter.net/bonchieredstate

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 05:25 AM (aURVT)

20 The Israelis are on to Hamas' phony cease fire negotiations. This was posted on Al Jazeera a few minutes ago.

"Israeli army continues bombing Gaza amid reports of ceasefire talks."

Oh no. Not that.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025 05:28 AM (NXz8h)

21 16 Anyone who lives near a river should always be aware of the dangers. My family had a camp along the Delaware River on a elevation of about 30 ft above the river. It was built in the 1930's and had seen a lot of floods I'm sure. But newer builders built right down on the river bank. Great to live next to a river so you can just walk out and swim, but when the heavy rains always come, the river turns into a raging, roaring water way. I hated to be there on those summer nights when a storm came through and you could start hearing the river roaring. Neighbors who lived much closer to the river in elevation had better be alert, or as much as you can in the dark. Helicopter rescues weren't uncommon. I was okay because back in the day, people built higher above the river bank, newer builders like to be on the water. Saw a new double wide home go floating down the river.
Posted by: Colin at July 06, 2025 05:21 AM (wlQdF)

Yikes, Colin. Thanks for this.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 05:29 AM (aURVT)

22 The IAF bombed once more and the sandrats went a'runnin
There isn't quite as many as there was awhile ago

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2025 05:41 AM (HFcKg)

23 G'morning, all!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 06, 2025 05:45 AM (a1415)

24 Biden's Dog, Smotrich and Zamir are really going at it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 06, 2025 05:12 AM (HFcKg)
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We have our Massies and Pauls, too, yah know!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 05:47 AM (ZvVgj)

25 From the ONT:

88 I had lunch today with Salty and was explaining how much I've learned about this town from FB. I learned that the stray cat I'm feeding is also eating at a house the next block over.

More troubling is that there is a woman in town that traps cats, then drives them out to a smaller town 10-15 miles away and dumps them. This include pets that are properly licensed and neutered. So far, the city has done nothing, although they do have an ad out for a new Code Enforcement/Animal Control officer.

One local woman did find her cat at one of these sites, covered with fleas and ticks and very thin. I've read that this is happening in other areas too. Anyway, as awful as FB is, you might learn some interesting things.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 05, 2025 10:30 PM (AcTAo)

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 05:54 AM (u82oZ)

26 {{{Ben Had}}}
🎼 ♭ 5/4 ♫♫ ♫♫ Good evening! ♬♬ ♩ ♪

Drove roads with few cars, like maybe one per 10 minutes, through the Smoky Hills.

Wheat is harvested, soybeans and sorghum just starting.

Corn east of the Concordia-Salina line were looking mighty fine.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 05:57 AM (u82oZ)

27 Evening and morning, all!

You know, it's odd, but I don't recall "Tusk" from 1979. I was listening to the premier Top 40 AM station in town then, and I don't think they ever played it. At least not frequently enough that it stuck in my memory.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 05:58 AM (omVj0)

28 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 05:59 AM (u82oZ)

29 Wolfus Aurelius,

Hays was looking pretty prosperous yesterday. Lots of the smaller towns are barely hanging on, but Hays seemed vibrant, even without the students.

Smoky Hills and esp. the Wilson Lake area was balm to the soul.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 06:01 AM (u82oZ)

30 Wolfus Aurelius,

Hays was looking pretty prosperous yesterday. Lots of the smaller towns are barely hanging on, but Hays seemed vibrant, even without the students.

Smoky Hills and esp. the Wilson Lake area was balm to the soul.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025

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Once upon a time it was a famous cow town, I think, along with Dodge City?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 06:03 AM (omVj0)

31 Wolfus Aurelius,

Been a while. Add Abilene to the list. It was only for a few years back in the 1870s-1880, IIRC.

Dodge City has a lot of meat-packing plants still, and a big immigrant population.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 06:04 AM (u82oZ)

32 Watching Retro-Futuristic Space Exploration. Crazy AI!

https://youtu.be/j_oj7_CGwuA

Without ads at: https://pjmedia.com/charlie-martin/2025/07/04/ fireworks-in-the-sky-candy-n4941422. (mind the gap).

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 06:12 AM (u82oZ)

33 Not familiar with Tusk, which is surprising given how much airplay Fleetwood Mac gets even today, but I really like the addition of the Trojan fmarching band to the video. Probably a big money maker for USC.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:18 AM (n8qLV)

34 I could have told you 40 years ago that this would happen.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 05:09 AM (ZvVgj)

My grandfather told me 40 years ago never to trust an arab.

And he knew them well!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2025 06:21 AM (Zv8bq)

35 >>> Wheat is harvested, soybeans and sorghum just starting.

My childhood memory of visiting farm country is that wheat harvest is in August, but that was in North Dakota.

Posted by: fluffy at July 06, 2025 06:21 AM (AN2gy)

36 Salty, most of the house listings for Hays on Realtor that fall in my (admittedly cheap) price range are already pending or contingent. Doesn't seem like there are many choices there right now. There is one two-BR that looks nice.

Does Hays have good medical facilities? The Wiki entry didn't say, though I guess with a college there, would.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 06:21 AM (omVj0)

37 Terrible news from Texas. So sad, especially the Camp Mystic news.

Sidenote: I see the NYT has a headline up saying "Key offices were vacant at Weather Service in Texas". I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:24 AM (L7ZHz)

38 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 06, 2025 06:25 AM (VpKXM)

39 Not familiar with Tusk, which is surprising given how much airplay Fleetwood Mac gets even today, but I really like the addition of the Trojan fmarching band to the video. Probably a big money maker for USC.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025

***
"We're looking for a pack of Trojans."

"Just sold the last one!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 06:26 AM (omVj0)

40 Hooters picture from ONT reminds me. I have only visited Hooters twice, and my waitresses were nice, but not built as expected.
A Hooters was briefly in my hometown, but placed in the trashiest commercial strip. A predatory dude solicited one of the girls for photos and murdered her. That was the end of the Hooters here.

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 06, 2025 06:27 AM (1FEc1)

41 Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

They have a regional hospital that looks pretty comprehensive. It is in a trauma region, but I think the real trauma hospitals are in big cities.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 06:30 AM (u82oZ)

42 I took both my sons to Hooters when they were 12 or so. We talked about the food.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2025 06:30 AM (jgmnb)

43 The AI women in that video could lead to unrealistic expectations.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 06:31 AM (u82oZ)

44 Based on her July 4 tweet, the Post thinks someone needs to do a welfare check at Kamala's house

https://tinyurl.com/353ey8r4

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:32 AM (fW52N)

45 G'mornin all y'all

Posted by: OkJohn at July 06, 2025 06:33 AM (NC/it)

46 Drove roads with few cars, like maybe one per 10 minutes, through the Smoky Hills.

Wheat is harvested, soybeans and sorghum just starting.

Corn east of the Concordia-Salina line were looking mighty fine.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Heart be still. The Smokey Hills triggered images of the Palouse wheat country in Washington State.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025 06:34 AM (NXz8h)

47 Alteria Pilgram

America is beautiful, away from the interstates.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 06:35 AM (u82oZ)

48 My grandfather told me 40 years ago never to trust an arab.

And he knew them well!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2025 06:21 AM (Zv8bq)
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My late father became great friends with some Arab businessmen who were Muslim but not very observant. They all enjoyed a good drink together.

One time when they had a bit too much, one of them put his arm around my father and said that he's a great friend but if he had to he'd stab my father in the back.

Lesson learned and handed down.

Just like many Jews in Israel found out in 1929!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 06:35 AM (ZvVgj)

49 "We're looking for a pack of Trojans."

"Just sold the last one!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 06:26 AM (omVj0)
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a friend's son, a struggling musician and actor, got a job once from Trojan, in an advertisement role of "Trojan Man". He was a semi-mystical guy giving advice to people that boiled down to "wear a condom".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:36 AM (Qy6rk)

50 I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:24 AM (L7ZHz)

I have read that the warnings were issued in a timely fashion, beginning at least 12 hours before the floods.

The TDS is going to help in the '26 midterm elections.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2025 06:38 AM (Zv8bq)

51 Salty, if I take off my requirement for a garage, the number of homes in Hays jumps a bit. I really do want a garage, though. Might not be cheap to have one built on my land.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 06:41 AM (omVj0)

52 CNN, doing its usual mangling of the facts, reports Measles cases are burgeoning and its all RFK's doing, because he is busily convincing people to avoid the vaccine.

The importing of large numbers of sick migrants until six months ago is not mentioned as a cause, strangely enough.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:41 AM (YSyQM)

53 ONT had the trackhoe described as ‘a piece of construction equipment with treads and a scoop out front’. Bless their hearts.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2025 06:43 AM (jgmnb)

54 Sidenote: I see the NYT has a headline up saying "Key offices were vacant at Weather Service in Texas". I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:24 AM (L7ZHz)
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They lie non-stop. This soon to be unemployed meteorologist from CBS tells the truth:

Avery Tomasco
@averytomascowx
Jul 5

All I'll say is this. The National Weather Service issued a flood watch for Kerr County more than 12 hours ahead of the catastrophic flood. A flash flood warning was issued for Hunt & Ingram 3 HOURS before the Guadalupe started to climb.

They did their job and they did it well

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 06:43 AM (ZvVgj)

55 Associated Press is a full on propaganda organ for Hamas, I see. You don't hate the press enough.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:46 AM (L7ZHz)

56 Good morning! Gonna be another cool humid day here in Cowtown. Looking forward to a little yard work and then an afternoon of chillaxin on the patio under the fan.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2025 06:46 AM (3Ope8)

57 Part of the problem is lack of common sense when of comes to moving water.

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2025 06:49 AM (jgmnb)

58 About to get light outside. I might go sit on the step with coffee and my pipe . . .

. . . Nah. Too damned humid.

In a while I'll drive out to Walmart in the exurbs and stock up on chow for me and the furry thugs. Since they don't have anybody on the real checkout stations until 7:30 or later, I won't be back for the start of the Book Thread. But I can think about my current story while I pilot the Buick out and back.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 06:50 AM (omVj0)

59 AP has a story up by two arab reporters claiming IDF soldiers fired on Gaza people trying to secure food aid. Their evidence for their claim is "Hamas told us". Israel produced a drone video of Hamas terrorists shooting civilians, which gets a mention at paragraph five of the story, along with a dismissive "don't believe your lying eyes" admonition from AP.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:51 AM (zjp0+)

60 Salty, if I take off my requirement for a garage, the number of homes in Hays jumps a bit. I really do want a garage, though. Might not be cheap to have one built on my land. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

One slice at costing this out is the marginal cost of a garage in a monthly mortgage payment is minimal. If you have the cash to build one seems you might be able to plunk that down as part of the down. If this is all fubar a carport might a reasonable middle ground. This is all spreadsheet work.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025 06:56 AM (NXz8h)

61 37 Terrible news from Texas. So sad, especially the Camp Mystic news.

Sidenote: I see the NYT has a headline up saying "Key offices were vacant at Weather Service in Texas". I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood

Yep. They are repeating the Bush/Katrina attacks. The major difference? Trump ain't Bush and the newz is more hated now then it was then.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 06, 2025 07:01 AM (sAmhv)

62 One slice at costing this out is the marginal cost of a garage in a monthly mortgage payment is minimal. If you have the cash to build one seems you might be able to plunk that down as part of the down. If this is all fubar a carport might a reasonable middle ground. This is all spreadsheet work.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 06, 2025

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I'm willing to make a good-sized down payment to get my note into a good range for my income.* It's merely that there don't seem to be many listings in Hays for houses with garages. A carport would be a decent compromise. But if I live in an area with chilly to cold winters and snow, as I want to, shelter for my car is important. A carport leaves the car open to wind and blown snow.

* As a first-time home buyer, too, I might be able to get in on one of those DP assistance programs. i'm not counting on it, but I might.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 07:02 AM (omVj0)

63 Key Offices Vacant During Holiday might not be the zinger the media thinks it is.

Posted by: Wally at July 06, 2025 07:04 AM (GNjcL)

64 @9

Eh, not scared. In this case, very disappointed.

All a Musk third party will do is take votes away from the Reps and give the insane Dims a way back in their crazy anti- American anti-Business agenda,

Would should scare Musk more than anyone else.

His dreams of going to Mars dies the minute the Dims get power or a veto.

For someone so brilliant, he's awfully stupid.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 06, 2025 07:05 AM (w3Pah)

65 Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom is running on MeTV. Currently they have a 1964 episode dealing with eagles and how they are able to fly.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 07:06 AM (omVj0)

66 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 06, 2025 07:08 AM (XQo4F)

67 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 07:02 AM (omVj0)

If you're worried about your car, don't skimp and settle for something without a garage. Wind driven debris and hail are very real threats in that locale.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2025 07:10 AM (3Ope8)

68 If you're worried about your car, don't skimp and settle for something without a garage. Wind driven debris and hail are very real threats in that locale.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 06, 2025

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I'm assuming almost any locale can be subject to that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 07:12 AM (omVj0)

69 Have a great day, everyone.

May a cooling breeze from the Arctic send a cloud -dappled sky in motion.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 06, 2025 07:15 AM (u82oZ)

70 Wolfus--

Have you considered Oklahoma? There are some pleasant small cities here. Duncan (southwest) and Broken Arrow (northeast) come to mind.

Posted by: Great Plains Drifter at July 06, 2025 07:20 AM (oZ//P)

71 >Currently they have a 1964 episode dealing with eagles and how they are able to fly.
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Psst....

it's the wings

Posted by: Don Black at July 06, 2025 07:25 AM (AOsQT)

72 Morning peeps. It's another day of yard work around here if the storms don't pop up. Hot too.

I see Elon's having another tantrum. He's never getting to Mars if this keeps up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2025 07:28 AM (Q4IgG)

73 Tucker Carlson interviewed an Iranian mullah figure, who took time out of his busy schedule of killing women and young people to speak with TuCa. Should be a news maker event.

https://tinyurl.com/7t26jkbh

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 07:37 AM (Riby4)

74 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 06, 2025 07:43 AM (+qU29)

75 73 Tucker Carlson interviewed an Iranian mullah figure, who took time out of his busy schedule of killing women and young people to speak with TuCa. Should be a news maker event.

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The President of Iran?

I wonder when he'll interview Netanyahu. Wait, I don't have to wonder. That interview will be, never.

Tucker's just asking questions!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2025 07:44 AM (hY4dx)

76 Tucker Carlson interviewed an Iranian mullah figure, who took time out of his busy schedule of killing women and young people to speak with TuCa. Should be a news maker event.

https://tinyurl.com/7t26jkbh

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 07:37 AM (Riby4)
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Think of all the ~~deaths and torture delayed by an hour~~ lives saved by Tucker giving that interview. He really makes a difference!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 07:45 AM (ZvVgj)

77 Have you considered Oklahoma? There are some pleasant small cities here. Duncan (southwest) and Broken Arrow (northeast) come to mind.

Posted by: Great Plains Drifter at July 06, 2025

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Duncan looks good. The first house I looked at on Realtor got a "I love it" out of me.

Broken Arrow does not seem to have many listings.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 07:46 AM (omVj0)

78 Stovetop brewed Columbian cappuccino with a buttery brownie.

I'm loving it!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 07:55 AM (ZvVgj)

79 Wolfus, as an inveterate pipe smoker I thought of you reading a book about the “three musketeers”, the flight crew of the 509th Composite, who dropped the gadget on Hiroshima in 1945.

Paul Tibbetts had his pipe with him as he exited the plane upon landing back at Tinian. There is a photograph of him standing at attention with his pipe palmed in his left hand, they awarded him with the DSC on the spot. Oops! He favored Bond street tobacco. And used a Zippo. LOL

All the hipsters would be mortified I’m sure. Probably fueled with 100 octane gasoline, too.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2025 07:57 AM (SfY1i)

80 Wolfus, as an inveterate pipe smoker I thought of you reading a book about the “three musketeers”, the flight crew of the 509th Composite, who dropped the gadget on Hiroshima in 1945.

Paul Tibbetts had his pipe with him as he exited the plane upon landing back at Tinian. There is a photograph of him standing at attention with his pipe palmed in his left hand, they awarded him with the DSC on the spot. Oops! He favored Bond street tobacco. And used a Zippo. LOL

All the hipsters would be mortified I’m sure. Probably fueled with 100 octane gasoline, too.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 06, 2025

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Cool! Bond Street leaf is long gone; I suppose there are some blends now that approximate it. I have a Zippo I use from time to time -- I start the pipe with two matches, and then use the Zippo to bring the blend back to life as I go along.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 07:59 AM (omVj0)

81 I'm off to the Walmart. Back in time for the Book Thread, though. If anybody has any more ideas about good small cities to live in, please let me know!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 06, 2025 08:00 AM (omVj0)

82 Secretary Hegseth on this week's episode of MAGA Warriors, with special guest start Lara Trump:

https://tinyurl.com/52xk5p77

Leadership by example. Very nice!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 08:05 AM (ZvVgj)

83 I have been reading a lot about Fleetwood Mac. The books by Ken Caillat about making Rumours and Tusk are especially good.

The band had to march to play, which would have made recording impossible. But they could march in place and play. The whole idea was Mick Fleetwood's, after hearing a band playing at a festival when he was visiting.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2025 08:05 AM (AcTAo)

84 Tusk is a very strange song for its time. I’m not surprised it didn’t get much radio play when it was first released.

It’s very Mick Fleetwood drum heavy, light on lyrics, and no catchy chorus. Not a very radio friendly song.

I happen to love it, though.
One of my favorite Fleetwood Mac songs (out of many).

It became a lot more popular over time due to how unusual it is.

I think the USC Trojan marching band played it during games for years.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 08:07 AM (6ydKt)

85 The only that could have helped on the Guadeloupe River would have been a network of sirens and other warning systems, such as for tornadoes. But being mostly unincorporated land, such a system has never been built.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2025 08:08 AM (Lhvai)

86 If you're worried about your car, don't skimp and settle for something without a garage. Wind driven debris and hail are very real threats in that locale.

You don't need wind driven debris and hail as motivation to garage the car.

Squirrels/critters, vandals, dew, sun, ice all take a toll on the longevity of a car. You don't see Jay Leno leaving his collection out on the back lot.

I won't buy a used car that has been normally parked outside, the elements knock years off of the vehicle.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:11 AM (a4flb)

87 The only that could have helped on the Guadeloupe River would have been a network of sirens and other warning systems, such as for tornadoes.

I thought that the reaction to hearing a tornado siren is the opposite to what you should do for a flash flood.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)

88 When I wake up anxious or stressed, listening to prayerful music as I putter around the kitchen really soothes my spirit.

Just thought I woukd sharr.

Good morning horde! This is the day the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 06, 2025 08:15 AM (DoBxX)

89 Tusk is the only song credited to all the band members. It started out as a warm up tune for Mick, then Lindsey came up with a riff for the sound check. It did get airplay, but the album was a bit experimental and didn't sell as well as Rumours.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2025 08:18 AM (AcTAo)

90 *share

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 06, 2025 08:18 AM (eZ5tL)

91 Sidenote: I see the NYT has a headline up saying "Key offices were vacant at Weather Service in Texas". I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.

Key offices for banks are vacant over holidays too.

Most professionals have families and phones too.

When weather kicks up, I'm not sure what Key Offices™ are supposed to do. Scream and Yell?

Do Key Offices™ suit up and join with First Responders to fish people out of torrents?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:18 AM (a4flb)

92 The Dems are going hard on the messaging that the cuts to the NWS are to blame for the tragedy in Texas.

Even though the local NWS issued a flood watch 12 hours and a flood warning 3 hours before.

Because, apparently the Dems believe the NWS controls the weather as opposed to merely forecasting it.

Nobody can accurately predict an exact amount of rain from a stalled weather system.

They estimate ranges, 0-1”, 1-3”, etc.

As Colin mentioned above, if you live near a river you have to be aware of the weather and be prepared when a large system comes in.

From what I understand this same girls camp was flooded in 1987 and some people were killed then, too. It might be time to consider some serious measure around there to prevent this from happening again.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 08:21 AM (6ydKt)

93 Associated Press is a full on propaganda organ for Hamas, I see. You don't hate the press enough.

I also don't drop a bucket down a septic tank to look for potable water.

The Legacy Press no longer serves an honest purpose. Its like poking a pile of manure with a stick and divining out the significant events by interpreting the movements of the maggots.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:22 AM (a4flb)

94 Tusk, as a song should work, could have worked, but really doesn't. Rockers don't like it, pop fans don't get it, the newer FM fans are all like "whut?!?!"

Turn down the sound I just like to see the bit where Stevie Nicks does her Marching Band Girl thing on a loop...over and over over...

I'll be in my bunk

Posted by: Surf Texas at July 06, 2025 08:24 AM (nEGV+)

95 93 Associated Press is a full on propaganda organ for Hamas, I see. You don't hate the press enough.

I also don't drop a bucket down a septic tank to look for potable water.

The Legacy Press no longer serves an honest purpose. Its like poking a pile of manure with a stick and divining out the significant events by interpreting the movements of the maggots.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:22 AM (a4flb
This is wordcraft of the highest order!

Posted by: Eromero at July 06, 2025 08:24 AM (jgmnb)

96 > Sidenote: I see the NYT has a headline up saying "Key offices were vacant at Weather Service in Texas". I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.
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This is the climate crisis crew's narrative. I've seen several references to "under staffed" weather offices right after any sort of severe weather. The flooding here in KY this spring, the tornados last month, the heat now... there's always an off-hand comment about the lack of personnel and budget cuts.

As if that's why there's "weather" that affects people.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2025 08:24 AM (Q4IgG)

97 I once saw a Fleetwood Mac cover band who called themselves "Tusk." Excellent show.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2025 08:25 AM (XQo4F)

98 I thought that the reaction to hearing a tornado siren is the opposite to what you should do for a flash flood.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)

Presumably the residents of such areas would know the difference. But the point is that right now there’s no warning systems at all in those areas, other than watch your weather channel a lot. The flash flood warning was issued at 5:54 am, the Guadalupe was at full flood by 8:54. The night before only light showers had been forecast.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2025 08:26 AM (0DdMG)

99 It might be that Musk's American Party is a direct result of his feelings of frustration and bitterness over how he believes he and DOGE were disrespected by Trump and his team, climaxing in the scuffle he had with Bessant. To go, in just a few months, from full-throated support of Trump and MAGA to proposing a third party that would potentially damage the Republicans and Trump is quite something. The paradox (and beauty) of Musk is that he is both a scientifically minded thinker/inventor and an emotionally childish idealist.

Will this American Party amount to anything?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 08:26 AM (WHfpM)

100 I had an investment property, a rental house in Ingram, with deeded and exclusive river access. sold it I think 1 1/2 years ago. Yikes.

Still have a condo in Kerrville, but it's about as far from the river as it can be and still be in Kerrville.

Posted by: Surf Texas at July 06, 2025 08:28 AM (nEGV+)

101 Remember to hydrate, people!

Posted by: United Beverage Alliance at July 06, 2025 08:28 AM (G5+As)

102 Turn down the sound I just like to see the bit where Stevie Nicks does her Marching Band Girl thing on a loop...over and over over...

I'll be in my bunk
Posted by: Surf Texas at July 06, 2025 08:24 AM (nEGV+)

She was head twirler (or whatever it’s called) at Alhambra High in Phoenix, always liked the way she’s reliving the old days there.
I was in our high school marching band, we played Alhambra and got stomped. I’m pretty sure that in my freshmen year I would have seen her on the field in her Senior year.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2025 08:29 AM (Lhvai)

103 Tusk is the only song credited to all the band members. It started out as a warm up tune for Mick, then Lindsey came up with a riff for the sound check. It did get airplay, but the album was a bit experimental and didn't sell as well as Rumours.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2025 08:18 AM (AcTAo)

I’ve heard it on classic rock radio occasionally over the years. But it gets nowhere near the amount of love as some of their bigger hits.

You’re more likely to hear Gypsy or Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow than Tusk.

I love Sara which I think was also on the Tusk album, I think, and it doesn’t get much airplay either.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 08:31 AM (6ydKt)

104 Turn down the sound I just like to see the bit where Stevie Nicks does her Marching Band Girl thing on a loop...over and over over...

I'll be in my bunk
Posted by: Surf Texas at July 06, 2025 08:24 AM (nEGV+)

Stevie is definitely at peak cuteness in the video.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 08:33 AM (6ydKt)

105 always liked the way she’s reliving the old days there."

Nice to see them having fun without the drugs.

Posted by: Surf Texas at July 06, 2025 08:34 AM (nEGV+)

106 They estimate ranges, 0-1”, 1-3”, etc.

While post-DOGE cuts took 600 FTE staffers out, those remained were forecasting 4-8 inches of rain for the Hill Country. But over 13 inches fell in some areas.

I would love for the ankle-biters who worship government sinecures, especially those holiday-vacant Key Offices™ care to show how being at home that day somehow would be able to forecast at the mirco level rainfall.

These Key Offices™, missed on Harvey and Helene when they washed out Houston and Yancey County.

Because that work is done real-time by forecasting computers which are obsolete and have been corrupted due to decades of weather data hacking in the service of "proving" Climate Change™

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:34 AM (a4flb)

107 Wolfus may be gone, but perhaps he'll check back.

The World According to Briggs is a YouTube channel with lots of info about different cities and states. He talks a lot about the economics of retirement and home buying.

Here's a sample: https://tinyurl.com/edv6hrpk

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2025 08:34 AM (XQo4F)

108 Musk will do what he did during the election. He gave some people a bunch of money, then claimed he won PA for Trump. The person responsible for the win was Scott Pressler, who did the work on the ground, registering people to vote. Musk's party will be a flop.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 06, 2025 08:35 AM (AcTAo)

109 > Will this American Party amount to anything?
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Some people are pointing out that it would make more sense to primary sitting RINO's instead of this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2025 08:35 AM (Q4IgG)

110 Will this American Party amount to anything?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 08:26 AM (WHfpM)

I think Musk is politically naive. He’s motivated by budgets and numbers and technical details, and he thinks other people will be as well. But while those things are good to get right, I’d say that the vast majority of MAGA supporters are motivated by wanting to fix out of control immigration, DEI nonsense everywhere, higher education going completely off its nut, and any other number of social issues.
What in Musk’s planned party will address that? Cutting spending is great, but how is he planning on getting voters motivated for that, without addressing all the other stuff?
Right now it looks like Musk wants to create the Rand Paul/Thomas Massie party, but there’s just no constituency for that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 06, 2025 08:37 AM (Lhvai)

111 I looked it up and St Joseph is the patron saint of finding a new home.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 06, 2025 08:39 AM (6U1c2)

112 Some people are pointing out that it would make more sense to primary sitting RINO's instead of this.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2025 08:35 AM (Q4IgG)

No question. But that doesn't quench Musk's bitterness. Perhaps there was no way to avoid the angry split. But it still occurs to me that Trump did handle it very adroitly.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 08:40 AM (WHfpM)

113 Will this American Party amount to anything?
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 08:26 AM (WHfpM)

It will amount to a big time & money suck from Elon.

We have third parties in America, none of them amount to anything.

If he wasn’t so resentful and pissed off and his ego wasn’t leading him around by his dick, Elon would wise up and try and take over the Libertarian party instead of starting a new one.

Their ideology fits his and is a long-time, established party - that loses big on the regular.

Elon has nowhere near the influence he thinks he has and his efforts here are not going to change that. After all is said and done, Americans vote for the two main parties, like they’ve been doing for well over a century.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 08:41 AM (6ydKt)

114 Will this American Party amount to anything?

No.

Posted by: Constitution Party at July 06, 2025 08:43 AM (R/m4+)

115 But it still occurs to me that Trump did handle it very adroitly.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 08:40 AM (WHfpM)

I mean he did NOT handle it very adroitly.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 08:43 AM (WHfpM)

116 The President of Iran?

I wonder when he'll interview Netanyahu. Wait, I don't have to wonder. That interview will be, never.

Tucker's just asking questions!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 06, 2025 07:44 AM (hY4dx)

In fairness he did extend an invite to Netanyahu. So he can ask Bibi how he feels about killing 3 million gazzzan women and children every day! And isn't genocide terrible !

Posted by: runner at July 06, 2025 08:43 AM (g47mK)

117 Musk will do what he did during the election. He gave some people a bunch of money, then claimed he won PA for Trump.

Yes, the Bloomberg Strategery to Win. Sure fire way to piss away billions and have nothing to show for it.

Political Money goes in two ways: Grift for the Party Stewards and Political Consultants, and bribes and dark money to pay off the legions of ballot stuffers, forgers and fraudsters.

Some of it is like Christmas Bonuses to the television networks, but most people are annoyed not motivated by being blasted with political adverts.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:45 AM (a4flb)

118 For historical perspective, a group of mega rich businessmen who were dissatisfied with Herbert Hoover's response to the Depression, got together to make FDR president.

FDR promptly turned on them and made them into supervillains in his drama

Musk should think about that

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 06, 2025 08:45 AM (6U1c2)

119 54 Sidenote: I see the NYT has a headline up saying "Key offices were vacant at Weather Service in Texas". I suppose this flood is Trump's fault now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 06, 2025 06:24 AM (L7ZHz)
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They lie non-stop. This soon to be unemployed meteorologist from CBS tells the truth:

Avery Tomasco
@averytomascowx
Jul 5

All I'll say is this. The National Weather Service issued a flood watch for Kerr County more than 12 hours ahead of the catastrophic flood. A flash flood warning was issued for Hunt & Ingram 3 HOURS before the Guadalupe started to climb.

They did their job and they did it well
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 06:43 AM (ZvVgj)

Bless him.

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 08:46 AM (aURVT)

120 Will this American Party amount to anything?

I have seen this movie before with billionaire Perot and the Reform Party.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:46 AM (a4flb)

121 If he wasn’t so resentful and pissed off and his ego wasn’t leading him around by his dick, Elon would wise up and try and take over the Libertarian party instead of starting a new one.

I didn't know that Elon Musk was a Satanist. The Libertarian Party is raw evil.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:49 AM (a4flb)

122 “ so he will sprinkle many nations,
and kings will shut their mouths because of him.
For what they were not told, they will see,
and what they have not heard, they will understand.”

Isaiah 52:15

Posted by: Marcus T at July 06, 2025 08:50 AM (nIMb3)

123 Musk will do what he did during the election. He gave some people a bunch of money, then claimed he won PA for Trump. The person responsible for the win was Scott Pressler, who did the work on the ground, registering people to vote. Musk's party will be a flop.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
_________

His purchase and freeing up of Twitter may have won the election. The info about and videos of Biden and Harris, which otherwise would have had limited circulation, certainly made a difference.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 06, 2025 08:50 AM (QqW4y)

124 I think Musk expected something from Trump for his DOGE efforts but was very disappointed.Musk was also upset with Trump over H1B's.
The Dems may have promised him Mars for his help in splitting MAGA apart.
Think of oligarchs as dukes and all the trouble dukes can cause a king.

Posted by: Accomack at July 06, 2025 08:51 AM (oERdd)

125 Wolfus may be gone, but perhaps he'll check back.

The World According to Briggs is a YouTube channel with lots of info about different cities and states. He talks a lot about the economics of retirement and home buying.

Here's a sample: https://tinyurl.com/edv6hrpk
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 06, 2025 08:34 AM (XQo4F)

I've watched quite a few of them, but Briggs outed himself as an anti-Trump asshole. Not going to watch him anymore.

I don't have any ideas for Wolfus on nice places to live. I've hardly ever lived in one!

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2025 08:52 AM (0eaVi)

126 I have seen this movie before with billionaire Perot and the Reform Party.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:46 AM (a4flb)

Perot got 19% in 1992.
He might have been able to win had he not dropped out and then got back in.

That’s the high water mark for third party runs.

Perot was the Reform party and it fell apart without him.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 08:52 AM (6ydKt)

127 Ironically, Kerrville, TX is associated in my mind with the serial killer Genene Jones, who killed at least 20 children (high-end estimates place the total at around 60) over a number of years at a hospital in San Antonio and a clinic in Kerrville. She remains in prison in her mis-70s now. In her jobs as an LVN she injected multiple young children with overdoses of a variety of medications. A few years after her initial convictions I worked at the hospital in San Antonio where she had started her murderous acts. The echoes of her evil still resonated at that facility.

The irony is that she killed more children than this recent flood, and with intent.

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2025 08:53 AM (poXs5)

128 >>>These Key Offices™, missed on Harvey and Helene when they washed out Houston and Yancey County.

The NWS office in Greenville-Spartanburg, which covers Asheville and surrounding areas all the way up to Boone, forecasted the potential for extreme flooding, mudslides and whatnot from Helene before it even made landfall in Florida.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 06, 2025 08:54 AM (Y1sOo)

129 mid-70s

Posted by: muldoon at July 06, 2025 08:54 AM (poXs5)

130 For all we know the entire Trump/Musk rift and Musk's third party are contrived theater by Trump and Musk.

Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2025 08:54 AM (i0F8b)

131 For you RomeHeads, here's an interesting video on Rome's most remote outpost:

https://tinyurl.com/u6crkryn

Folks in the comments mention other far out sites with evidence of Roman occupation, or at least a presence.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 06, 2025 08:58 AM (kpS4V)

132 Right back to the usual.

Two days after they (probably grudgingly) posted the bug about Independence Day, the little holiday/important day shows the commie Kahlo's birthday as something special to marvel at.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 06, 2025 08:58 AM (0eaVi)

133 With the death of Michael Madsen, it brings the realization that he was the turn the key guy in Wargames.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2025 08:58 AM (XV/Pl)

134 So Musk wants an "American Party". The devil is in the details. How exactly do you plan to solve our debt crisis Elon.

Posted by: WisRich at July 06, 2025 09:00 AM (+xcAz)

135 130 For all we know the entire Trump/Musk rift and Musk's third party are contrived theater by Trump and Musk.
Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2025 08:54 AM (i0F8b)

But why?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 06, 2025 09:00 AM (WHfpM)

136 I didn't know that Elon Musk was a Satanist. The Libertarian Party is raw evil.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 08:49 AM (a4flb)

I have libertarian tendencies, especially on principles, and size of the government and nanny state.

But the Libertarian Party is more of a joke than evil.
They are about as realistic about the way the world works as the Communist party and that’s why nobody takes them seriously.

It’s a party for leftist anarchists who grew up a little and realized government is needed every now and then just to keep the criminals from ruining everything for the rest of us.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 09:00 AM (6ydKt)

137 Nood Books.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 06, 2025 09:01 AM (NcvvS)

138 78 Stovetop brewed Columbian cappuccino with a buttery brownie.

I'm loving it!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 06, 2025 07:55 AM (ZvVgj)

Yum!

Posted by: m at July 06, 2025 09:01 AM (aURVT)

139 Wolfus--

Duncan Regional Hospital is large and well respected.

Marlow, a few miles north is interesting.

SWOK is green and pretty. And there are mountains!

Posted by: Great Plains Drifter at July 06, 2025 09:02 AM (oZ//P)

140 They’ll be plenty of time to blame people after we’re done burying the dead and committing their souls back to our Lord and Savior.

What I will tell you is that if you live in Texas, especially near any flood plain, you listen the weather. Storms pop up and stall, only God himself knows what they will ultimately do. In that regard, the NWS issued an alert that should have been enough for people to take maximum caution in those areas. The Guadalupe River is notorious for breaking its banks and flooding. There are signs in many places along its banks indicating flood levels. Even if it was historic, the towns that have the Guadalupe within their borders know exactly where the flood plains are. I’ll leave it at that because now is a time for mourning and prayers. We haven’t even located all of the missing yet, and like clockwork the Democrats and their vultures in the media are seeking to place political blame.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 06, 2025 09:04 AM (WJY5I)

141 For all we know the entire Trump/Musk rift and Musk's third party are contrived theater by Trump and Musk.
Posted by: davidt at July 06, 2025 08:54 AM (i0F8b)

I doubt it.

If it was all contrived Trump would’ve never agreed to Musk basically accusing him of being a pedophile over the Epstein files.

Elon crossed that line on his own, and that bridge is still burning.

Musk is erratic to the point people are worried he’s high on something, and that’s not a good place to be if you want to get involved in high level politics.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 06, 2025 09:05 AM (6ydKt)

142 The NWS office in Greenville-Spartanburg, which covers Asheville and surrounding areas all the way up to Boone, forecasted the potential for extreme flooding, mudslides and whatnot from Helene before it even made landfall in Florida.

Exactly. The blame for Kerr County flooding was of the same thing - there were warnings. The implication of the ankle-biters is that the NWS could have Done Something - physically drag the people out Hollywood style seconds before the wall of water dropped in on them?

There is also the Boy Who Cried Wolf phenomena. We name heatwaves and polar vortexes and treat a few degrees above 20 year averages as the Angel of Death to "the most vulnerable communities".

Bad Things happen. I don't know how else they could have warned about flash flooding when they warned about flash flooding - unless flash flooding doesn't mean anything anymore to anyone.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 06, 2025 09:07 AM (a4flb)

143 People are upset because the government hasn't replaced common sense.

Posted by: pawn at July 06, 2025 09:21 AM (4NpHF)

144 The thing about the camps getting washed out in the Texas hill country is that they’re at camp. They aren’t watching TV, they aren’t listening to the radio, they aren’t plugged into computers. If no one contacts the camp leadership by phone or visit, they aren’t necessarily aware of the weather conditions. All the weather service staffing in the world won’t help someone off grid.

When I was a Boy Scout assistant scout leader, we’d keep an eye on the weather (ironically enough we were usually in the hill country), but without Wi-Fi and possibly without cell service, we might not catch a sudden storm.

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