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When in Rome (or Hollywood)... [Lex]

When movie trivia was fun this was a good one: what two films, produced in the 1960s, took a two-decade break before the sequel was made in the 1980s?

The answer: Psycho (1960) and The Hustler (1961), their sequels being Psycho II (1983) and The Color of Money (1986). It was a good trivia question because the practice of a follow up in which the actors reprised their roles, separated by two decades no less, was rare—if non existent.
How times have changed…

There have always been serial style movies (James Bond or The Thin Man franchise) and regular sequels (The Godfather II, a masterpiece; The French Connection II, pedestrian) and remakes or reimaginings (Ben Hur, The Invisible Man, Road House) and reboots (The Planet of the Apes or Halloween), but I’m not talking about those.

The focus of this post is the continuing of a tale some years later, but there’s a difference between what I mean and a straight up sequel. Sequels usually come fast and furious (yes, I meant to do that) upon the heels of the first chapter. So The Fast and The Furious or Superman or Rambo.

The characters may be the same but there is no nostalgic yearning to see what they have been up to after many years, a la Norman Bates or Eddie Felson.

Traditional sequels usually are plot-based. Ethan Hunt is assigned a new mission. Clark W. Griswold goes on his next vacation. We care less about how the characters have evolved or aged or where they find themselves than we do about them saving the day or finding a decent hotel.

Business-wise it makes perfect sense. Hollywood produces a popular film and wants to cash in on sequels, so we get Final Destination part LVIII (or whatever we are up to now) and will keep getting more as long as profit is to be had.

But somewhere along the line, in addition to the traditional sequel, we got the years-later-what-are-they-up-to film.

What changed? Why were the cases of Psycho II and The Color of Money as follow ups isolated?

As with most things that have destroyed peace and justice in the galaxy, I lay the blame at the feet of Star Wars.

The Phantom Menace (1999) is technically not a sequel (it’s a prequel!), but these terms do not matter. It was the idea of 25 years passing before we caught up with characters we yearned to know more about that captured the public’s imagination.

The Star Wars movies have all been pretty stupid, but they earned a lot of money and opened the floodgates for fan service and nostalgia films like we have not seen before.

A variant of this became the ‘what happened to so and so’ movie, and they were intriguing to say the least. There are too many to count, but some of the most notable are Top Gun: Maverick, Cobra Kai, Coming 2 America, and Bill and Ted Face the Music.

If you were a popular character in the 1980s or 1990s, you can assume, if your follow up film has not been made, it is surely being considered.
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To be honest, I don’t much like these films. It speaks to the dearth of originality in the 21st century movie business. Why take a chance on an interesting, new voice or fresh ideas when you can dust off Axel Foley? Hollywood has always been a bottom line business, but studios and large production companies used to take some chances. Even their bombs now (Snow White) are retreads.

Flops aside, the sequel/prequel/reboot/follow up movie has been immensely profitable, so, like the baseball team that finishes last but keeps its fan base, why would there be efforts at improvement if the people keep paying?

And to be even more honest: while I don’t like the practice of the follow up sequel, sometimes I can’t help but think of interesting takes on old material, and since one can’t exactly beat Hollywood, one might consider joining the party.

I’m not much involved with screenwriting any longer, but, when I was, taking a popular character or movie and picking up the saga was not a bad play to make as an aspiring scribe.

Legally, you could never proceed with that kind of story in terms of production, but, in the scriptwriting game, anything you can do to draw attention to yourself and show you have chops is something many writers consider. It’s called the ‘get noticed’ script, and you write it to land representation which will then take out your original ideas or try to find you work based on your potential.

I fell under this spell once and wrote a follow up to Caddyshack. In my telling of the sequel, which I titled Danny Noonan, the character became a professional caddie but could never land a big player’s bag so was down and out. But then he receives a message that Ty Webb has passed away and left him Bushwood (Webb was the secret owner of the club). Danny returns to Bushwood to find it in disrepair. He may have been bequeathed the club but does not have the funds to rehabilitate it. Another man does: Carl Spangler, the harelipped stoner and former Bushwood greenskeeper. Spangler became a cannabis millionaire when marijuana was legalized, and he funds the revival of Bushwood. That is until Judge Smails grandson, Spaulding (he a judge too), blocks the construction. Danny seeks out his old rival DeNunzio, who is a lawyer now, to represent him. Maggie is of course still in town and the ghosts of Webb, Czervik, and Smails get in on the act too. It was a pretty dumb story, but I had fun writing it.

I only queried one person with this, Michael O’Keefe, the actor who played Danny Noonan. He got back to me right away to say he had been making his own efforts with Warner Brothers to develop a sequel, but, surprisingly, they were not interested in any more Caddyshack movies. So it ended there, but it was an interesting exercise.

And now I invite you to give me your take on a follow up film. There is only rule: the actors who played the characters (at least most of them) must be still living. This is not a reboot or slipping in someone new to play Jack Ryan. No, this must be like Bill and Ted or Maverick or Axel Foley, the old performers still living and able to reprise their roles.

Here are two examples I have come up with…

Title: Princeton Could Use a Guy Like Joel
Logline: 40 years after that Risky Business, Joel Goodson has his own kids and a picturesque, suburban McMansion. After the “time of his life” in high school, he played it safe. But does he have it in him one more time to say, “What the fuck” and make a move?

Title: Smith & Wesson & Me
Clint Eastwood has retied from movies, but where is he? Possibly in a retirement home. And what if Inspector Harry Callahan is also similarly situated? Can ‘Dirty’ Harry adjust to this kind of lifestyle, or will he still bend the rules to infuriate his bosses and get the bad guys?

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1 4e5tbw44

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2025 07:30 PM (Rrsaq)

2
I read the content!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 05, 2025 07:31 PM (Rrsaq)

3 Evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)

4 Rambo First Blood - 1982
Rambo Last Blood - 2019

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:32 PM (VofaG)

5 Don't forget The Wrath of Khan

Posted by: MikeN at July 05, 2025 07:33 PM (HVZOH)

6 Thinking to go see tje F-1 movie but probably will have to go by myself

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 07:35 PM (+qU29)

7 Kham was much better than the original

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:36 PM (bXbFr)

8 Funny we have a sequel thread b/c I watched 2 new concept movies this weekend - A Complete Unknown and Nonnas.

I can't actually recommend either one, although if you aren't offended by denigrating Catholics, I guess Nonnas is the better movie. Until they made the nun leave the convent b/c she fell for a woman, the movie wasn't that bad (although its rushed ending also just isn't good).

As for A Complete Unknown, it was truth in advertising. The absolute least interesting part of the movie is the lead, Bob Dylan. The movie has no stakes. No drama. No climax. And no journey of Bob's life, except for "how I couldn't handle fame and became an a$$hole." He's effectively a cypher. A better movie, regardless of politics of the characters, could have easily been done for Pete Seeger or Woody Guthrie...and those probably should have been made.

Both movies get a B- and a "only if you're really bored" - I mean, at least they weren't done before...and they are on streaming (one Netflix, one Hulu)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:37 PM (tOcjL)

9 I saw someone wrote an american psycho set in of all places japan in pary

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:37 PM (bXbFr)

10 The Color of Money

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:38 PM (i0F8b)

11 1985 The Breakfast Club
2025 The Early Bird Dinner Club

Haven't given this any thought beyond the title. Maybe Carl the Janitor owns a restaurant and the original group gathers there and we see vignettes of their lives.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 07:39 PM (144I4)

12 Sequel there should be character development in an origin story

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:39 PM (bXbFr)

13 stupid fingers


The Color of Money is a far cry from The Hustler.

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:39 PM (i0F8b)

14 I finally got around to watching "Real Genius" yesterday, since a lot of y'all seem to like it.

I thought it was pretty entertaining. William Atherton really did get typecast as an asshole, though. I've never seen him play a character who *wasn't* an asshole.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 05, 2025 07:40 PM (IBQGV)

15 A Complete Unknown sounds like a standard biopic. I often call them book reports because they give bullet points of a person's life but little else. Sounds like the case there. I have Netflix but haven't watched Nonnas. Embarrassingly, I'm watching Squid Game season 3. It's terrible, and I think they've bled this concept enough. But since it's so successful I wouldn't be surprised by some kind of spin off or just 'a new breed' of players.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:40 PM (y4H1r)

16 Almost too easy to say that Buckaroo Bonzai needs a sequel! An elderly Emilio Lizardio could offer a portal to the Red Lectroids, and Jeff Goldblum finds out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 07:41 PM (0DdMG)

17 Stop or My Granddaughter Will Shoot.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 05, 2025 07:41 PM (qwx/I)

18 My wife and I just got back from seeing the remastered version of Spinal Tap at the theater. The theater was actually pretty packed. Every bit a hilarious as the first time I saw it. At the end, they played a preview if Spinal Tap II coming in September. It looks like it will be as the first.

Posted by: Tennessee Jed at July 05, 2025 07:41 PM (CLS0Q)

19 11. Yes! I have often thought it amazing they have not done a Breakfast Club sequel. Either early bird dinner club or bran flakes for breakfast...

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:41 PM (y4H1r)

20 I dont think its casting with him

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:41 PM (bXbFr)

21 Goonies 2: Eclectic Bugalou

Posted by: Mick at July 05, 2025 07:42 PM (HFx9z)

22 15 A Complete Unknown sounds like a standard biopic. I often call them book reports because they give bullet points of a person's life but little else. Sounds like the case there. I have Netflix but haven't watched Nonnas. Embarrassingly, I'm watching Squid Game season 3. It's terrible, and I think they've bled this concept enough. But since it's so successful I wouldn't be surprised by some kind of spin off or just 'a new breed' of players.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:40 PM (y4H1r)

That's just it. By the end of A Complete Unknown, you still know next to nothing about Bob Dylan. Like nothing. You don't know why he is the way he is, you don't know where he's come from, you don't know where he's going...drifter as I get famous is the most you get. You could have put his CDs in and probably learned more about his life...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:42 PM (tOcjL)

23 btw, to all my fellow pool players out there, during the montage in The Color of Money after Eddie convinces Vincent to get with the program, see if you can spot when Vincent cheats.

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:42 PM (i0F8b)

24 The Color of Money is a far cry from The Hustler.
Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:39 PM (i0F8b)

I actually enjoyed both . The original is a top 100 all time movie but it was a big downer after she committed suicide. I know there are no other plot that would have worked though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:43 PM (VofaG)

25 Wd richter wrote a sequel treatment wow is it stranger than the original buckaroo banzai

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:43 PM (bXbFr)

26 An Animal House sequel following the bios given on each of the characters at the end of the original.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 05, 2025 07:43 PM (p16cu)

27 Jim belushi (where has he gone) playing an older bluto

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)

28 Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:42 PM (tOcjL)

I got halfway through before I turned it off.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (VofaG)

29 Embarrassingly, I'm watching Squid Game season 3. It's terrible, and I think they've bled this concept enough. But since it's so successful I wouldn't be surprised by some kind of spin off or just 'a new breed' of players.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:40 PM (y4H1r)

Next watched that - my Netflix bad habits are The Recruit (canceled) and Night Agent (renewed for Season 3 - I'm halfway through Season 2).

And I watched Picard this summer b/c everyone said season 3 was good. You all are wrong. Season 3 was the same as 1 and 2 - average. Original show was better.

And season 4 of the Bear. Lacking in the 1st few episodes and took a direction I saw coming (although I saw a darker version for the ending, but I guess it still wants to be comedy) and is gonna make for a very difficult season 5...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (tOcjL)

30 23. the montage where the guy takes a swing at Vincent? He cheats in a game? I'd be curious to know what he did. Was it a filming flub or actually cheating as part of the hustle?

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (y4H1r)

31 I'm surprised there hasn't been a sequel* to Rounders, considering how popular the movie and poker are.

*Damon is the champ and Norton enters the scene...

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:46 PM (i0F8b)

32 26. Well, Bluto did become a Senator.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:47 PM (y4H1r)

33 Lets round up and say the Star Wars franchise is 50 years old. By way of comparison, it's like there were fanboys in 1983 who were devoted to Gold Diggers of 1933.

The Star Wars "prequels" actually made the original three worse upon second viewing.

Though now that I think about it, as an Xer I grew up watching Three Stooges and Little Rascals on Channel 32...and we all did the Curly Shuffle in 83.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 05, 2025 07:47 PM (qwx/I)

34 28 Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:42 PM (tOcjL)

I got halfway through before I turned it off.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (VofaG)

Which one? Or both?

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:47 PM (tOcjL)

35 30 23. the montage where the guy takes a swing at Vincent? He cheats in a game? I'd be curious to know what he did. Was it a filming flub or actually cheating as part of the hustle?

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (y4H1r)

He stops a ball with his hand after pointing at something to distract the other player.

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:48 PM (i0F8b)

36 Well better than jj drek but still too dark (literally) compared to the original

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:48 PM (bXbFr)

37 24. Pyscho II was a terrible follow up, but The Color of Money is a very good film. Different than The Hustler in many ways but a quality film whereas Psycho II was lame.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:48 PM (y4H1r)

38
David Westheimer wrote a sequel to Von Ryan's Express, but in the movie, unlike the book, Ryan is killed. It was something Sinatra insisted on so there wouldn't be a sequel.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2025 07:48 PM (/HVsR)

39 My two sequel "where are they now?" ideas are for A Few Good Men and Dirty Harry. My "A Few Good Men" sequel has Cruise as a civilian attorney, Demi Moore still a JAG. Kevin Bacon gets charged with some military crime with Moore the prosecuting attorney. Bacon gets Cruise to defend him.
For Dirty Harry, he is retired and living up in the mountains. A murder(s) occurs and he gets pulled in by the locals to solve it. Also someone from Harry's past is out to kill him.
BTW-I like the Color of Money as a sequel to The Hustler.

Posted by: zogger at July 05, 2025 07:48 PM (HGKOZ)

40 31 I'm surprised there hasn't been a sequel* to Rounders, considering how popular the movie and poker are.

*Damon is the champ and Norton enters the scene...

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:46 PM (i0F8b)

My Cousin Vinny could have EASILY had a sequel...and comedies tend to be the easiest to do...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:49 PM (tOcjL)

41 The Neverending Story II.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 07:51 PM (jc0TO)

42 40. Great idea...they'll have to dig up a couple more "utes" for that one.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:52 PM (y4H1r)

43
Johnny Hooker becomes a senator from Florida and figures out how to scam the government out of billions by setting up a slew of non-profits and NGOs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2025 07:52 PM (/HVsR)

44 Dirty Harry - I have always suspected that “Gran Torino” is a stealth sequel to Dirty Harry. What does Harry do when he’s old, retired from the force, and doesn’t have anyone who cares about him anymore? How does he come to terms with his life, and die with meaning and purpose?

I think Gran Torino answers those questions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 07:52 PM (Lhvai)

45 Who was the other guy with macchio

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:53 PM (bXbFr)

46 Stall Wars - The Final Humiliation. Mark Hamill reprises his role as Luke and returns as crackhead who lives behind a glory hole at an interstate rest stop.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 07:53 PM (vFG9F)

47 Stall Wars - The Final Humiliation. Mark Hamill reprises his role as Luke and returns as crackhead who lives behind a glory hole at an interstate rest stop.
Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 07:53 PM (vFG9F)
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That may have been the rejected script for The Last Jedi.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 05, 2025 07:54 PM (IBQGV)

48 45 Who was the other guy with macchio

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:53 PM (bXbFr)

For My Cousin Vinny, it was Ralph Macchio and Mitchell Whitfield who were the ones on trial...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:54 PM (tOcjL)

49 Yeah Probably, kowalski fit the profile its not spelled out what he did since korea

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:54 PM (bXbFr)

50 Hardware Wars

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 07:55 PM (0+1C6)

51 Which one? Or both?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:47 P

A Complete Unknown

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

52 Ah that guy

Vinnie It was written by two englishmen of all things

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:56 PM (bXbFr)

53 Also, in The Color of Money, I'm pretty sure George C Scott has an un-credited cameo. After Eddie beats Vincent, Eddie gets congratulated and shakes hands with some guys, one of whom is Scott at the tournament directors table. He may have been the guy who got Vincent to dump to Eddie.

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 07:56 PM (i0F8b)

54 When I was in college, the local movie marquee showed "Scent of a Groundhog" and "Woman's Day" playing.

I sometimes think about that concept.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 05, 2025 07:56 PM (qwx/I)

55 Cobra Kai is a pretty good continuance of the movie.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:56 PM (VofaG)

56 The Curly Shuffle came after Pac-Man Fever, right?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 07:57 PM (0+1C6)

57 Scent of a Woman is the go to Al Pacino impression material.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:58 PM (VofaG)

58 Thanks for the post, Lex.

RE your Caddyshack script, I'm sure there is a lot of directions you could go, and I have no doubt that Michael O'Keefe would love to do another one, but I'm torn on a sequel.

Part of me thinks that a sequel could not stand up to the original, but the other part of me realizes that some sequels are good and can enhance the original.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 08:00 PM (144I4)

59 Curly Shuffle was 1983. I know this because our 7th grade teacher hated it.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 05, 2025 08:00 PM (qwx/I)

60 51 Which one? Or both?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 07:47 P

A Complete Unknown

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

Then you literally didn't miss anything...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 08:00 PM (tOcjL)

61 Yes caddyshack was lightening in a bottle for many reasons

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:01 PM (bXbFr)

62 53. I know the guy you mean...that's George Scott? I'll have to look closely next time I watch it. Don't think it's him but I know the guy you mean.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:01 PM (y4H1r)

63 The Blue Max could have had a sequel. The book, which is quite different (including that it was Hauptmann Heidemann that took the death plunge, not Stachel.) And the author wrote a sequel about Stachel in Nazi Germany, The Blood Order.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 08:01 PM (L/fGl)

64 Trying to decide if I'm gonna go back for a Night Agent episode tonight or tackle my 3rd movie of the extended holiday - somehow, I can find time for movies in the summer that I can't find in the year - it helps there's no football, b/c my youngest insists I watch his desired games with him in the fall/winter (and really, I don't mind)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 08:02 PM (tOcjL)

65 A well constructed film does not need a sequel.

Aliens isn't really a sequel to Alien and there is only one Matrix movie, thank heavens.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:02 PM (XV/Pl)

66 there is only one Matrix movie, thank heavens.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:02 PM (XV/Pl)

True. 100% true.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 05, 2025 08:03 PM (tOcjL)

67 "Turn it offffff!!!"

-- George C. Scott

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 08:03 PM (0+1C6)

68 Johnny Hooker becomes a senator from Florida and figures out how to scam the government out of billions by setting up a slew of non-profits and NGOs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Libs already did that one live!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 05, 2025 08:03 PM (SzZZ5)

69 Hey, Caddyshack 2 was a big hit in the Catskills.

Posted by: Jackie Mason at July 05, 2025 08:04 PM (fIPNY)

70 58. I didn't mention it in the post, but I believe in the 2020 US Open, Michael O'Keefe caddied the first two rounds for one of those unknown golfers who make it through qualifying. It was the 40th anniversary of Caddyshack and he was trying to drum up interest with that stunt. Didn't work of course, but I don't blame him for trying. I think you might be right: a Caddyshack sequel could ruin the original one, but I'm surprised, given the current climate, they have not tried it. If you can bring back Axel Foley why not Danny Noonan?

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:04 PM (y4H1r)

71 Its like with the first superman which no 2 nicely followed up then they lost the plot in the phantom zone

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:05 PM (bXbFr)

72 Lucas made the original Star Wars with 13-year old boys in mind.

Then he made the prequels with 9-year old boys in mind. To sell toys.

Then the series lost its way.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:05 PM (dtajH)

73 Wanted Dead Or Alive from 1986 with Rutger Hauer is a sequel to the 50s series with Steve McQueen.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 05, 2025 08:05 PM (CNl8/)

74 Scent of a Woman is the go to Al Pacino impression material.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 07:58 PM (VofaG)



There's two Al Pacino quotes that are go to for me.

I'd take a flamethrower to this place! - 'Scent of a Woman'
She's got a great ass! - 'Heat' The way he says that cracks me up.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 08:06 PM (144I4)

75 Yeah not really although gene simmons chewing the scenery as malach al rahim wasnt terrible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:06 PM (bXbFr)

76 With all the talk about Marvel's current 'Ironheart' tv show...I was reminded that there was an 'Ironheart' movie released on RiffTrax. I watched it, and I loved it from the first frame.

This Ironheart is a 1992 movie about an Asian-American kung-fu cop (it has better diversity representation than Marvel's Ironheart) who tracks down and beats up a ring of human traffickers. The traffickers pick up their victims in a 90's dance-club and the female lead is 90's dance instructor, which both give the movie a cool nostalgic vibe. The plot is as dumb as you'd expect for direct-to-video action flick, but the action is mostly cool, so who cares? And the movie is perfect for RiffTrax because there are so...many...driving scenes... Again, I loved it, and highly recommend it. As long as you enjoy direct-to-video shlock.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2025 08:07 PM (Lhaco)

77 "A well constructed film does not need a sequel."

Godfather II bookends the original with before and after. It's one big film.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:07 PM (dtajH)

78 74. I had Covid in November and wanted something brainless to read. I got Heat 2, co-authored by Michael Mann. I think they intended to make a movie out of it but it didn't happen. Book was okay in spots but pretty silly overall.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:08 PM (y4H1r)

79 >>Pyscho II was a terrible follow up, but The Color of Money is a very good film. Different than The Hustler in many ways but a quality film whereas Psycho II was lame.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 07:48 PM

Psycho was Hitchcock. I don't think anyone else could have made it. Psycho made me levitate the first time I watched it.

Psycho 2 was an overly complicated imitation directed by some rando hack.

Posted by: huerfano at July 05, 2025 08:08 PM (n2swS)

80 I'm getting it confused with Thunderheart, which was Val Kilmer playing a detective on the rez. Pretty good from what I remember.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 08:09 PM (0+1C6)

81 Fun stuff I watched recently on streaming:

Just now - Heads of State - funny and actiony
and it has the wonderful Paddy Constantine as a villain

Sinners - like Brother where art thou meets From Dusk till Dawn

Troppo - aussie murder mystery with crocs and sneks

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2025 08:09 PM (6U1c2)

82 Well it had a lot of character set up as well as what happened after the bank heist

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:09 PM (bXbFr)

83 Not sequels but they've done spin off movies . They did Robert of Bruce is one which was terrible.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:10 PM (VofaG)

84 The answer: Psycho (1960)
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I have an old-fashioned motel key 'fob' that I use as a key ring. It reads 'Bates Motel'

In the neighborhood, we had a *very* weird guy who had always lived with his aged mother. When I say weird, I mean weird. We always referred to him as Norman Bates.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2025 08:10 PM (XeU6L)

85 Some days idris elba should turn down a gig

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:11 PM (bXbFr)

86
What ruins the Godfather III for me is that a zillion mob bosses get shot up at a hotel and Michael... just goes home.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 05, 2025 08:11 PM (/HVsR)

87 @77

>>Godfather II bookends the original with before and after. It's one big film.

Realistically, Godfather pt II and certainly part III, were not essential to The Godfather story, and contrary to many, I don't think part ii is better than part I.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:11 PM (XV/Pl)

88 Den of thieves was a decent heist trope then the sequel lost the plot in southern europe

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:12 PM (bXbFr)

89 79. Well said. Psycho II was really just a random sequel done without any thought. All plot based, and of course it is hard to follow Hitchcock. But Robert Rossen is no easy act to follow either and Scorsese made a very thoughtful and entertaining picture about where Eddie Felson found himself 20 years later and how he was able to make his comeback.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:12 PM (y4H1r)

90 >>Some days idris elba should turn down a gig
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:11 PM (bXbFr)

Careful! Pedro Pascal might take his place.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 08:13 PM (0+1C6)

91 "Hitchcock" was about the making of Psycho with Anthony Hopkins and Helen Mirren. A souffle that didn't fully rise, but I still enjoyed it.

There's a scene with Hitchcock in the lobby of the theater during a preview, acting out the slashing of the shower scene, that's priceless.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:13 PM (dtajH)

92 In a very c thomas howell way

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)

93 George C Scott made the best Exorcist sequel.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:15 PM (VofaG)

94 86. Godfather III has many problems, one of which, for me, is that Don Altabello's motivation is not explained. He's Connie's godfather, so why would he betray her and the Corleones? Never could get past that. Coppola was broke so he needed to make the film, and that explains most of it.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:15 PM (y4H1r)

95 I am not making this up. There is an old motel near here that is now occupied by a roofing company. The name of the company?
"Bates Roofing".

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 08:16 PM (vFG9F)

96 It was an inside story about the people that had acquired paramount who were in league with sindona the kenzig. charactee

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr)

97 Leonard Part 6

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 08:17 PM (0+1C6)

98 My Pitch:

Serenity 2: Twenty years later. After Simon Tam developed an antidote to the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate, allowing the outer planet Miranda to be made habitable again, a secret that was kept from the Alliance. A colony... the "Free 'Verse" has been set up on this world, refugees from the Alliance. Mal Reynolds governs the colony, Jane keeps order, while River Tam and Zoe Washburn pilot Serenity, transporting refugees between the outer colonies and Miranda.

Miranda is wild place. Most of the Reevers are dead, but a few are still around to cause trouble. But the driver of the plot is that the Alliance have found out, a fleet is on its way, and May must rally the entire colony to fight for their independence.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 05, 2025 08:17 PM (DIweC)

99 Speaking of Psycho I'm currently watching Seven Psychopaths right now . Sam Rockwell and Christopher Walken.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:17 PM (VofaG)

100 Not one of you has mentioned Chained Heat 3.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:18 PM (jc0TO)

101 Thats a good one sort of pulp fiction crossed wity the player

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:18 PM (bXbFr)

102 Taboo 2

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 08:18 PM (0+1C6)

103 Psycho Dad II was a big let down, but then again the original rocked.

Posted by: Al Bundy at July 05, 2025 08:19 PM (i0F8b)

104 I would like another Riddick movie,

I liked all three a lot.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:19 PM (VofaG)

105 How many of the Jaws movies are actually sequels? Two?

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:19 PM (jc0TO)

106 Speaking of Psycho I'm currently watching Seven Psychopaths right now . Sam Rockwell and Christopher Walken.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:17 PM (VofaG)

That's a friggin' weird film. But I liked it. My wife thinks I'm teched.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:19 PM (0aYVJ)

107 The third one was a let down

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr)

108 ii deepens the characters of the old don and the new. Now you have two character arcs under a larger one.

iii was rushed. They lost Duvall when they started with an insulting lowball offer. Had he been in with a better script it could have worked.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:20 PM (dtajH)

109 Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:19 PM (0aYVJ)

Sam Rockwell is always good.

You would really like Mr. Right

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:21 PM (VofaG)

110 Im still waiting for The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Against the World Crime League.

By the way, what's that watermelon doing there?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2025 08:21 PM (0+1C6)

111 Oh its much stranger than you can imagine

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:23 PM (bXbFr)

112 And walken can read a phone book and give it gravitas

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:23 PM (bXbFr)

113 I love Boggy Creek II: and the Legend Continues

Whatever happened to Boggy Creek?

Did Ol' Man Crenshaw lie down with Mrs. Boggy? Begat the Li'l Creature?

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:23 PM (0aYVJ)

114 There could be a sequel to "UHF".

It's 30 years in the future and an evil streaming company is trying to do away with broadcast TV entirely. Weird Al and the crew, with a little assistance from space aliens, expose the conspiracy on their local 10 PM news show on channel 59-3.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 08:23 PM (vFG9F)

115 Another Sequel Idea: Who Gender-Swapped Roger Rabbit?

Plot: All across Toontown, classic and beloved characters are changing overnight; from lovable cartoons into ghastly CGI nightmares. Joyful toons are now dark and angst-ridden. Male characters are now female. Jokes are no longer allowed. Roger Rabbit must team up with Eddie Valiant again to find out who is responsible.

Bob Hoskins is unfortunately no longer with us, so that breaks the rule. I would have to recast his part with... um... Pedro Pascal, I guess.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 05, 2025 08:24 PM (DIweC)

116 The Webz says 3 sequels to Jaws, the continuity being various, rapidly dwindling, members of the Brody Family.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:24 PM (jc0TO)

117 >The Color of Money is a far cry from The Hustler.
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because of the partial nudity, probably

Posted by: Don Black at July 05, 2025 08:24 PM (AOsQT)

118 Watched Caddyshack this weekend, still amusing

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:25 PM (+qU29)

119 Forget about sequels, Hollywood needs to start making good original films, as it is, we are getting maybe one or two good films a year.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:25 PM (XV/Pl)

120 Sam Rockwell is one of my favorite actors. Moon was outstanding.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:25 PM (0aYVJ)

121 The Legend Of Boggy Creek scared the shit out of me when I was a little kid.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 05, 2025 08:25 PM (CNl8/)

122 There has to be 10 Jaws sequels

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:26 PM (+qU29)

123 115 There really are no rules, but I guess it doesn't qualify as a real follow up if the actors are different. I mean, you can do that, but it wouldn't be the same.

One I didn't include here, partially because it breaks the rule, is a Scarface follow up. The joke about Scarface is that everyone dies.

But not Elvira. So envisioned her having Tony's son (but she never told him), and returning to Miami to take the world and everything in it with Tony's heir.

But it would be hard to recapture the same flavor since most of the characters were killed in the original.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:27 PM (y4H1r)

124 Guys.

Do sequels for all of the John Hughes Brat Pack movies.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 05, 2025 08:27 PM (cIOlQ)

125 Leon the Professional could have a sequel with Portman as a hitman, err, person.

It would probably be better than the Lady Wick movie.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:28 PM (jc0TO)

126 You realize there was an earlier Fast and Furious series (actually "Fast and X"), back c. 1940, about a couple who owned a rare bookstore. They wanted something to compete with The Thin Man. The trouble is that they never could fix on an actor and actress to play the pair.

To me, the obvious choice for a new movie as listed would be Blue at the Mizzen, the last of the Aubrey novels. This one is post Napoleonic, set in Chile. (Based, like many of the stories, on Thomas Cochrane. To this day, Almirante Cochrane is a name preserved by the Chilean navy.)

Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2025 08:28 PM (od0dV)

127
The Inlaw Josey Wales


Josey's daughter-in-law takes care of him as he's unable to care for himself. As she's looking through his stuff one day, she discovers his guns and goes seeking vengeance.

On who and for what? Well, that's TBD...

Ok, I just looked and there was a sequel already, but forget about that one...

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (144I4)

128 The sequel I always wanted was for Strange Brew. They flirted with it but never pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (CNl8/)

129 Yeah everyone died in scarface

Good riddance

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (bXbFr)

130 There are rumors of a Lonesome Dove remake.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (L/fGl)

131 The Inlaw Josey Wales


I snorted out loud.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (jc0TO)

132 Harold and Kumar Go to Alligator Alcatraz.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 05, 2025 08:30 PM (DIweC)

133 Life of Brian II: Loretta's Story.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 05, 2025 08:31 PM (DIweC)

134 There are rumors of a Lonesome Dove remake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Bad idea, I think. I doubt that the original can be matched, much less eclipsed. Same for 'Open Range'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2025 08:32 PM (XeU6L)

135 There are rumors of a Lonesome Dove remake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (L/fGl)

No.

Just. No.

Fuck no.

Duvall and Jones were fucking perfect. Hell, the whole cast was fucking perfect.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:33 PM (0aYVJ)

136 Scooby Doo 3: Mr. Withers Strikes Back

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:33 PM (jc0TO)

137 The A24 studio shows that you can make $50mm movies that are good to outstanding that make a profit.

But there's not enough skim for Disney in $50mm movies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:33 PM (dtajH)

138 Although I have seen none of them, these 28 days... ones seem to be separated by some time.

And then there is the Kill Bill 1 and 2, I don't know the separation of those.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2025 08:33 PM (rvwwT)

139 121 The Legend Of Boggy Creek scared the shit out of me when I was a little kid.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 05, 2025 08:25 PM (CNl8/)

MST3K had great fun with “Legend of Boggy Creek 2”, especially pointing that it was actually Legend of Boggy Creek 3 since they’d already made a sequel.
Best part of “2” was pointing that the College Professor, who is also the writer and director, spends the vast majority of his time staring at the short shorts of the college girls he’s taken out into the woods with him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 08:33 PM (Lhvai)

140 Zounds you are just opening up the hellmouth

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:34 PM (bXbFr)

141 I wish the made another Quigley movie.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:34 PM (VofaG)

142 Casablanca II

Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2025 08:34 PM (i0F8b)

143 Quigley in Alaska

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:34 PM (jc0TO)

144 They have done a lonesome dead mans walk marathon on hdtv

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:35 PM (bXbFr)

145
Duvall and Jones were fucking perfect. Hell, the whole cast was fucking perfect.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
------

Agree. Was watching it yesterday. Casting was perfect, right down to Anjelica Houston.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2025 08:36 PM (XeU6L)

146 137 How many A24 movies are $50 million? I like their output but aren't budgets much lower than that?

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r)

147 spends the vast majority of his time staring at the short shorts of the college girls he’s taken out into the woods with him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 08:33 PM (Lhvai)

Crow: "...yes, these river bottoms..."

Gotta admit, them chicks were easy on the eyes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:36 PM (0aYVJ)

148 A evil mine owner hires Quigley to eliminate rival small claim miners in the Yukon, a reverse Pale Rider.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:36 PM (jc0TO)

149 Fun stuff I watched recently on streaming:

Just now - Heads of State - funny and actiony
and it has the wonderful Paddy Constantine as a villain

Sinners - like Brother where art thou meets From Dusk till Dawn

Troppo - aussie murder mystery with crocs and sneks
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport

Adding a couple of things I watched last week.

Dept Q on Netflix. Emotionally scarred detective runs a bare bones dept. focusing on cold cases. Based on the Danish mystery novels. Setting moved to Scotland. Great cast. I went through the whole nine hours in one sitting even though I'd read the book and knew the ending. Well acted.

Deep Cover on Prime. Bryce Dallas Howard, Orlando Bloom. Sean Bean, Ian McShane, Paddy Considine. Actors get talked into under cover work for a policeman. Cute movie. I guffawed numerous times.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2025 08:36 PM (lJ0H4)

150 Michael walsh actually attempted a sequel to casablanca as time goes on

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 08:36 PM (bXbFr)

151 Life of Brian II: Loretta's Story.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo


Oh, that sparked an idea.

Brian's Song II: Bromance Beyond the Grave

Just missed James Caan by a few years though.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 08:38 PM (144I4)

152 113 I love Boggy Creek II: and the Legend Continues

Whatever happened to Boggy Creek?

Did Ol' Man Crenshaw lie down with Mrs. Boggy? Begat the Li'l Creature?
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 08:23 PM (0aYVJ)

Did the Razorbacks win that football game? Did Tim ever hook up with either of the girls? Did they ever return that boat?

A classic movie, that one! For very eccentric definitions of 'classic.'

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2025 08:38 PM (Lhaco)

153 Not a a serial but a remake. Looked for it last week and couldn't find it except in my mind. The Man Who Loved Women - it was made three or four times with different titles; The first one being made before the war.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2025 08:38 PM (xCsAY)

154 @146 If they come in under $50mm fully loaded that makes my point even more.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:38 PM (dtajH)

155 There really was a skunk ape in Boggy Creek II. They called him "Old man Crenshaw".

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 08:39 PM (vFG9F)

156 A stretch would be Harold and Maude. Harold would have to be the old guy and Maude would have to be the great granddaughter of similar name, something like that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2025 08:39 PM (rvwwT)

157 Emilio Estevez is making Young Guns 3. Lou Diamond Phillips and Christian Slater are supposed to be involved also.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 05, 2025 08:39 PM (CNl8/)

158 Crossfire Trail was another good Tom Selleck Western.

Speaking of Selleck I think on last movie thread I said I had watched Mr Baseball again after 20 years and it holds up really well.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:39 PM (VofaG)

159
Uncle said that Pale Rider was a remake of Shane.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2025 08:40 PM (xCsAY)

160 A evil mine owner hires Quigley to eliminate rival small claim miners in the Yukon, a reverse Pale Rider.
Posted by: toby928


As long as there is busty cleavage. Laura San Giacomo can wear some underwire. Don't care if it's 20 below, it's essential to the plot.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 08:40 PM (144I4)

161 It's an old argument. Why make a $300 million dollar piece of junk when you can make 10 good movies at $30 million a piece? I don't have an answer except to say that's the way it is.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:40 PM (y4H1r)

162 William Atherton --

Yeah, he was typecast as a major-league ahole. But there's a film based on one of Jack Ketchum's novels, called The Girl Next Door. Based on the 1950s Sylvia Likens case -- a grim flick, and not for the squeamish. In Ketchum's novel, one of the neighborhood kids wants to help the girl but fails to do so. Atherton plays that character grown to adulthood and tormented by his failure. He's really pretty good in there.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 08:41 PM (q3u5l)

163 Does The Equalizer with Denzel Washington count? Even though sequelish, time has passed. Characters are older. And excellent movies.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2025 08:42 PM (2eet0)

164 Evening.

Wasn't Gran Torino basically Dirty Harry in retirement?

Posted by: Robert at July 05, 2025 08:42 PM (1Yy3c)

165 "Project Moon Base" (1953) Better than I expected. I imagine the cast grumbled about having to wear the gay AF spaceshorts and spaceskullcaps, but Donna Martell's spacerack is aerodynamic and sleek. Heinlein gets writing credit.
youtube.com/watch?v=fDWeD8uFq8Y

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 05, 2025 08:42 PM (eoBq9)

166 Caught a late showing of F1. Being an Apple production the cast has a full blown case of dIvErSiTy Is OuR sTrEnGth. Remarkably that is the beginning and end of it. On to the movie. The core of the movie is a bratty rookie gets schooled by the wise old veteran and along the way the bratty rookie finds himself while the wise old veteran casts off his demons. The plot twist here is It's done with Formula 1 racing cars. The good news is it works and it works really, really well. It's a great summer movie because It dumps all the moralizing and DEI crap, and gives us what we really came for: spectacular F1 racing with bang up crashes. If you like Ford versus Ferrari odds on you're going to like this one though I do have to say I found the Ford versus Ferrari a better movie. Final rating: Double Plus Good.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 08:42 PM (NXz8h)

167 The Trek films were follow-on sequels. The first showed Kirk as an admiral, what, six or seven years after the original five-year mission? Then Khan was set fifteen years after the "Space Seed" episode, with Montalban reprising his role as Khan.

Same with the Next Gen cast and their films.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 08:43 PM (omVj0)

168
I wish the made another Quigley movie.
Posted by: polynikes

Quigley, M.E.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 05, 2025 08:43 PM (63Dwl)

169 How about a spin off from Star Trek: The search for Spock with Christopher Lloyd and John Larroquette? Killing those two off instead of having them periodically pop up was an absolute crime.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 05, 2025 08:45 PM (sZyeE)

170 I wish the made another Quigley movie.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025

***
His adventure Down Under was the defining moment of Quigley's life, the most important events. So it would be hard to follow up on that with another story. Not impossible; but hard to do.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 08:45 PM (omVj0)

171 Maybe should go see F-1 movie tomorrow evening as wouldn't get a chance to see it until next, or in 3 weeks

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 08:46 PM (+qU29)

172 Uncle said that Pale Rider was a remake of Shane.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I dislike the acting by the kid they cast for that role (in Shane) that I can't watch it.

I think one of the best western remakes was 'True Grit'. Better than the original. Sorry, John.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2025 08:46 PM (XeU6L)

173 "So it would be hard to follow up on that with another story."

'Son of Quigley'

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 05, 2025 08:46 PM (eoBq9)

174 Apparently they're making a spin-off of Ferris Bueller that has the two valets that drove the car around having a "day off".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2025 08:46 PM (rvwwT)

175 @161

>>Why make a $300 million dollar piece of junk when you can make 10 good movies at $30 million a piece? I don't have an answer except to say that's the way it is.


A film at that budget would be either a psychological thriller or a rom com, films that Hollywood has lost the ability to make.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:47 PM (XV/Pl)

176 You must see F1 in IMAX, ideally fourth row center.

It's a big video game.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 05, 2025 08:47 PM (dtajH)

177 Big Trouble in Little China screams for a sequel, 40 years later. And not the planned abomination starring "the rock".

I'm talking Kurt Russell, Dennis Dun, Kim Cattrall, and critically, James Hong. Directed/written/scored again by John Carpenter. Haven't given much thought to a story, but maybe it's time to get the gang back together after Egg Shen has died under suspicious circumstances, and Dun - a successful businessman in Chinatown - comes looking for Jack, nattering on about Lo Pan being responsible. Jack is still driving a truck, having alimony obligations to several ex-wives - and maybe child support for a young daughter - but he believes it immediately because he blames Lo Pan for all the bad turns his life has taken. And then . . . getting the other gang members on board, Chinese mysticism, kung fu, and hilarity ensue.

Posted by: Kreskin at July 05, 2025 08:47 PM (gTo/1)

178 another Quigley movie.

What does he wear when it's cold?
Quigley down underwear.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 08:48 PM (/EMWh)

179 "You must see F1 in IMAX, ideally fourth row center."

Agree. F1 should be viewed on an IMAX screen if possible.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2025 08:48 PM (lJ0H4)

180 His adventure Down Under was the defining moment of Quigley's life, the most important events. So it would be hard to follow up on that with another story. Not impossible; but hard to do.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 08:45 PM (omVj0)

My take was he had 'defining' situations before he got to Australia. It's what made Quigley in the first place. I would think his personality of defending the weak and taking no shit would result in more defining moments.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:49 PM (VofaG)

181 Waterworld: Sahara. Total sequel material plus we get see Costner make an ass out of himself again.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 08:50 PM (NXz8h)

182 A prequel to Chinatown. What trouble did Jake Gittes get into on the force?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 05, 2025 08:50 PM (/EMWh)

183 175. It's true. Hollywood has lost the ability or desire to make medium budget movies. I do plan to write a future post about "The 80s movie" where these kinds of mid level films would get wide release and were generally done well (think Mr. Mom, Cloak and Dagger, 9 to 5).

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 08:52 PM (y4H1r)

184 "You must see F1 in IMAX, ideally fourth row center."

Agree. F1 should be viewed on an IMAX screen if possible.
Posted by: Tuna

Atmos if IMAX is not an option (my case). The audio is terrific.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 08:52 PM (NXz8h)

185 @166

>>Caught a late showing of F1.

I've seen some extended trailers and I didn't get the sense of speed from the footage.

Seemed ver slow.

Now that probably is the result of shooting digitally with super high refresh rate sensors and not film stock.

Look at Death Proof and you definitely get the feeling of speed.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:52 PM (XV/Pl)

186 175 @161

>>Why make a $300 million dollar piece of junk when you can make 10 good movies at $30 million a piece? I don't have an answer except to say that's the way it is.

A film at that budget would be either a psychological thriller or a rom com, films that Hollywood has lost the ability to make.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 08:47 PM (XV/Pl)

With ticket prices as high as they are who wants to pay out the ass to watch a "little" film?

Posted by: Robert at July 05, 2025 08:54 PM (1Yy3c)

187 Apparently they're making a spin-off of Ferris Bueller that has the two valets that drove the car around having a "day off".
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2025 08:46 PM (rvwwT)



Mia Sara showed some skin in Timecop. Relevant because boobs.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 08:54 PM (144I4)

188 The 100 + million movies are action with a lot of cast members . The good movies under 100 million have a limited cast and just tells a story,

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:55 PM (VofaG)

189 131 The Inlaw Josey Wales


I snorted out loud.
Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 08:29 PM (jc0TO)

As did I. Eastwood/Streisand vehicle in my head. They're dueling in-laws engaged in escalating family conflict until Eastwood shoots her dead. So yeah, feel good story..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 05, 2025 08:55 PM (bA75n)

190 Pixar's Bolt has held up well.

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2025 08:56 PM (Bbhox)

191 I've seen some extended trailers and I didn't get the sense of speed from the footage. Seemed very slow. Posted by: Thomas Bender

I can honestly say that never once crossed my mind. A lot of the footage could have been copped right from a live F1 car cameras but with much better resolution and editing. I never thought those looks slow.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 08:57 PM (NXz8h)

192 Pixar's Bolt has held up well.
Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2025 08:56 PM (Bbhox

My favorite animated movie.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:57 PM (VofaG)

193 His adventure Down Under was the defining moment of Quigley's life, the most important events. So it would be hard to follow up on that with another story. Not impossible; but hard to do.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 08:45 PM (omVj0)

My take was he had 'defining' situations before he got to Australia. It's what made Quigley in the first place. I would think his personality of defending the weak and taking no shit would result in more defining moments.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025

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True; he could be a series character. The stakes would have to be important, of course. I was thinking that he'd have tried settling down with Cora, Laura's character; and maybe he did, and she died, and there's a son, and . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 08:58 PM (omVj0)

194 Yeah Probably, kowalski fit the profile its not spelled out what he did since korea
Posted by: Miguel cervantes

For the first couple of decades he wrassled under the name "Killer".
Had some major battles with Haystack Calhoun.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 05, 2025 08:59 PM (n4GiU)

195 I subscribe to F1 TV which has access to the onboard cameras of all cars during events.

F1 The Movie was very faithful to what you see onboard the cars.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 05, 2025 09:00 PM (oLdT5)

196 172 -- I agree. I thought I would hate it, but turned out I really liked it.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at July 05, 2025 09:00 PM (sZyeE)

197 The Bridgework Of Madison County. 2 old flames meet again and neither remembers the other.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 09:01 PM (vFG9F)

198 Two Steve Carell movies that I thought were very good were made for well under 100 million combined and had over 200 million box office.

Dan in Real Life
Crazy Stupid Love

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 09:01 PM (VofaG)

199 The 100 + million movies are action with a lot of cast members . The good movies under 100 million have a limited cast and just tells a story,
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:55 PM (VofaG)

Napoleon Dynamite.

I should hate this film, and yet, I love it. it's so friggin' weird, and funny, and sweet. But it's one I watch at least once a year.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 09:01 PM (0aYVJ)

200 197 Ha!

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs at July 05, 2025 09:01 PM (eoBq9)

201 I love it. it's so friggin' weird, and funny, and sweet. But it's one I watch at least once a year.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at July 05, 2025 09:01 PM (0aYVJ)

The dance scene and build up to it was fantastic

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 09:02 PM (VofaG)

202 @186

>>With ticket prices as high as they are who wants to pay out the ass to watch a "little" film?

Adjusted for inflation, the budget for Alien is 50m dollars which would be considered a low/mid budget today.

Hollywood could not turn out a film of that quality if you threw every writer in Hollywood on it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 09:02 PM (XV/Pl)

203 Wasn't Gran Torino basically Dirty Harry in retirement?
Posted by: Robert at July 05, 2025 08:42 PM (1Yy3c)

Yes! Exactly my point earlier in the thread.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2025 09:03 PM (Lhvai)

204 William Atherton

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Plays a good asshole. Or bad asshole. Whatever.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 09:03 PM (L/fGl)

205 I thought this post was going to be about Chinatown / The Two Jakes. But no, 1974 / 1990. So not quite two decades.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 05, 2025 09:03 PM (gKWVE)

206 Yeah Probably, kowalski fit the profile its not spelled out what he did since korea
Posted by: Miguel cervantes

He was a retired Ford factory worker.

Posted by: old chick at July 05, 2025 09:03 PM (F3Dlr)

207 The Return of the Man From U.N.C.L.E. TV movie (1983) was a follow-on sequel, with both Vaughn and McCallum recreating their roles. Leo G. Carroll had died in the interim since the show was canceled, so there was no Mr. Waverly. Both Solo and Illya had left the Command to follow different career paths: Solo to sell computers, Illya as, get this, a fashion designer (!!).

It was no Wrath of Khan or Aliens, and its budget was low; but it had a certain charm.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:03 PM (omVj0)

208 In my experience, video from a car always seems slower than actually being in the car.

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 09:03 PM (vFG9F)

209 Not movie-related, but fun anyway: Canadian PM Mark Carney showed up at the Calgary Stampede, and got roundly booed by a large crowd.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2025 09:04 PM (Xtdoj)

210 The Bridgework Of Madison County. 2 old flames meet again and neither remembers the other.
Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025

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* Applause *

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:05 PM (omVj0)

211 Harold & Kumar fit the parameters. Grumpy Old Harold & Kumar?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 09:05 PM (NXz8h)

212 Hey, I got one:

Blade Runner (1982)

Blade Runner 2049 (2017)

(Yikes, that's 35 years, and arguably, you have at least one actor reprising the role)

Posted by: Orson at July 05, 2025 09:05 PM (dIske)

213 160 A evil mine owner hires Quigley to eliminate rival small claim miners in the Yukon, a reverse Pale Rider.
Posted by: toby928
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Remake is different than serial. Remake takes the book or story and is redone in the new producers image.

Pale Rider stranger rides into town and straightens things out
same with Shane. At the end of Shane the boy crying for Shane as he rides off, Shane, Shane etc.
At the end of Pale Rider (not as faggy) the girl is crying after him as he rides off.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2025 09:06 PM (xCsAY)

214 I see they remade Overboard but gender swapped it. Because of course they did.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 09:06 PM (L/fGl)

215 @199

>>I should hate this film, and yet, I love it. it's so friggin' weird, and funny, and sweet. But it's one I watch at least once a year.

It's one of those lightning in a bottle films.

The love of uncle Rico and Lafonda is real and enduring and Tina, you fat lard, come get some dinner, will enter the pantheon of quotable movie lines.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 05, 2025 09:06 PM (XV/Pl)

216 Rambo Last Blood was the perfect last movie of the series.

Stallone also did great with the last Rocky movie

Balboa which was excellent.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 09:07 PM (VofaG)

217 "a psychological thriller or a rom com, films that Hollywood has lost the ability to make."

The technical ability is probably there; I'd guess that the failure is in the story departments. Nobody there can see the potential for a bunch of non-budget-busters that could be made by adapting (faithfully one would hope) works by Robert Bloch, Donald Westlake, Lawrence Block, Fredric Brown, Ed McBain, John D. MacDonald, and others? While some of their books have been filmed, there's a lot of untapped material out there.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:08 PM (q3u5l)

218 REX KWANDO!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rockin' these Bad Boys at July 05, 2025 09:08 PM (0aYVJ)

219 a psychological thriller or a rom com, films that Hollywood has lost the ability to make.

Recommended relatively older RomComs that both star Drew Barrymore

Going the Distance

Blended


Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 09:10 PM (VofaG)

220 Below are the movies A24 sent to me last winter for award season. I'm sure there are more, but I don't think any of these were close to $50 million even with inflationary budgets. I still agree with the sentiment, but these movies are more indy budget than mid level...


Love Lies Bleeding
Civil War
Maxxxine
I Saw the TV Glow
Janet Planet
Tuesday
Problemista
Look Into My Eyes
Heretic
We Live in Time

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 09:11 PM (y4H1r)

221 189 131 The Inlaw Josey Wales


I snorted out loud.
Posted by: toby928
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Comes to dinner with wife's family in New Hampshire.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 05, 2025 09:11 PM (xCsAY)

222 Not movie-related, but fun anyway: Canadian PM Mark Carney showed up at the Calgary Stampede, and got roundly booed by a large crowd.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You can tell a lot about a man by how he sits.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/lB2mGsyJH-A

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 09:11 PM (L/fGl)

223 Nobody there can see the potential for a bunch of non-budget-busters that could be made by adapting (faithfully one would hope) works by Robert Bloch, Donald Westlake, Lawrence Block, Fredric Brown, Ed McBain, John D. MacDonald, and others? While some of their books have been filmed, there's a lot of untapped material out there.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025

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Block has had two of his Matt Scudder stories adapted that I know of, one in about 1986 (very missable) and the newer A Walk Among the Tombstones with an excellent Liam Neeson as Matt. But yes, that *kind* of movie thriller seems to be overlooked and out of fashion now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:11 PM (omVj0)

224 Waterworld: Sahara.

Brilliant! The entire world is barren sand dunes, maybe inhabited by giant worms.


Wait ...

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:12 PM (jc0TO)

225 Love Lies Bleeding
Civil War
Maxxxine
I Saw the TV Glow
Janet Planet
Tuesday
Problemista
Look Into My Eyes
Heretic
We Live in Time
Posted by: Lex

Want my address?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 09:13 PM (NXz8h)

226 The Inlaw Josey Wales


I snorted out loud.
Posted by: toby928
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Comes to dinner with wife's family in New Hampshire.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

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Son-in-law insists they have tofurkey for Thanksgiving. Then it becomes Unforgiven.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Big Mouth of the West at July 05, 2025 09:14 PM (L/fGl)

227 Tuna, yes, Dept Q and Deep Cover absolutely rocked (for different reasons).
Very fun

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2025 09:14 PM (6U1c2)

228 With the development of CGI to handle creating the aliens on film, a bunch of Larry Niven's early work, the Known Space stories, would make excellent films. Ringworld could be the next Star Wars, and the adventures of Beowulf Shaeffer could make a fine group of films or a Netflix series.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:14 PM (omVj0)

229 We talked about Sam Rockwell and the movie Moon

It cost 5 million to make but only made 10 million at the box office .

Such a good movie made so little is disconcerting.

Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 09:14 PM (VofaG)

230 Lex, I saw Maxxxine (which is apparently a sequel) and Heretic.
Mildly interested in I Saw the TV Glow just based on the poster

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2025 09:17 PM (6U1c2)

231 Someone is using up a lot of leftover fireworks nearby

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2025 09:18 PM (6U1c2)

232 Walk Among the Tombstones with Liam Neeson was a NICE adaptation of Block's book. The ending was changed, I'd imagine because if you're paying Neeson the big bucks you gotta have Neeson in at the finish instead of doing it the way Block did it in the novel (no spoiler from this kid); but the adaptation was faithful in spirit to Block's novel, and more than satisfactory. Scott Frank did the adaptation, and if memory serves he also did the adaptation for Out of Sight and the Netflix production of Walter Tevis's The Queen's Gambit. Frank gets it -- if you've already got a terrific story, why screw around with it? Put as much of it on film as you can. A director once told Ray Bradbury that he wanted to tear out the book's pages and stuff them into the camera. Frank seems to be a guy who tries to do that.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:19 PM (q3u5l)

233 225. They are all watermarked. If I share them I get blackballed. I'd love to but even a year later I don't want to poke the beast by sending them around.

On that list, I think I watched about half. None stood out, but at least they are trying with original content. I have so little interest in the next Superman movie.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 09:19 PM (y4H1r)

234 Someone is using up a lot of leftover fireworks nearby
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2025

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Better that than thugs engaging in small arms practice

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:19 PM (omVj0)

235 A different and (dare I say) more interesting take on Jaws 2: lose the shark.

In Jaws 2 we as the audience know there’s a shark but the townsfolk, correctly noting the extreme unlikelihood of a second such beast, thinks Brody is cracking under some delayed PTSD and seeing sharks in every shadow.
What would’ve been interesting would be to leave the shark’s existence more ambiguous and have it turn out that Brody really *was* cracking. No shark, just the demon in Brody’s own mind exacerbated by his reemergent drinking problem.
The movie ends with Brody recovered, a stronger happier man enjoying a swim at the beach with his family.

Posted by: James Felix at July 05, 2025 09:20 PM (7eK1Z)

236 As did I. Eastwood/Streisand vehicle in my head. They're dueling in-laws engaged in escalating family conflict until Eastwood shoots her dead. So yeah, feel good story..
Posted by: Joe Kidd


Lol. As long as the spit scene is recreated with Babs.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 09:20 PM (144I4)

237 . They are all watermarked. If I share them I get blackballed. I'd love to but even a year later I don't want to poke the beast by sending them around.

On that list, I think I watched about half. None stood out, but at least they are trying with original content. I have so little interest in the next Superman movie.
Posted by: Lex

Stupid rules. Could you use a sharpie?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 09:21 PM (NXz8h)

238 A Speed Racer sequel with the GRX and a couple of other plot lines from the cartoon.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 05, 2025 09:22 PM (Vh9CX)

239 The movie ends with Brody recovered, a stronger happier man enjoying a swim at the beach with his family.
Posted by: James Felix at July 05, 2025 09:20 PM

Who is then eaten by a shark.

Twist!

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:22 PM (jc0TO)

240 237. I'm sure I could try it. Why would they care now? But everyone in my film critics group also gets them, so I don't want to risk collective punishment.

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 09:23 PM (y4H1r)

241
The truth about why most modern movies are terrible.

https://youtu.be/VI9RSlHqu-w

30 minutes.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 05, 2025 09:23 PM (XQo4F)

242 Someone is firing leftover fireworks here as well.

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 09:25 PM (+qU29)

243 You know, from the shark's point of view, Quint was the monster, hunting down the peaceful aquatic creatures ala The Last Man on Earth.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:26 PM (jc0TO)

244 Big films versus small films. My first lean in is always towards small films that tell interesting stories with real conviction. If I can stretch an analogy, the way John Lennon once described how to write a song: say what you mean, make it rhyme, and give it a backbeat.

But if I have a choice between explosions and dialogue, the dialogue gets my ticket money on Wednesday. I love loud and trashy movies for the following reason: Because.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 09:26 PM (NXz8h)

245 Someone is firing leftover fireworks here as well.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025

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Stirling is racing around all keyed up, but he's not hiding, which means he isn't hearing firework noises I don't hear.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:26 PM (omVj0)

246 And leftover fireworks by me too.

Funny though. I have that Ring thing that has a community forum section in the app. Someone posted asking if anyone else heard gunshots.

Someone replied "yeah, that was me. I'm shooting at the fireworks."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 05, 2025 09:27 PM (EABvN)

247 My kid loves it.

Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2025 09:28 PM (28cZF)

248 Someone replied "yeah, that was me. I'm shooting at the fireworks."
Posted by: WitchDoktor

Hah!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 05, 2025 09:28 PM (gDlxJ)

249 So the Great White is the Ruth in the story, luring the monster Quint to his destruction.

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:29 PM (jc0TO)

250 Watching a Svengoolie rerun and they had Amanda Bearse on. I knew her from Married With Children but didn't know she was in Fright Night (never seen it).

So snooping around, Wikipedo says they are planning a prequel later this year, for the 40th anniversery of the movie.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025 09:30 PM (144I4)

251 First firework boom of the evening, and Stirling did a faster fade into the bedroom than he did last night. It's not like the noises are *right* outside the door. (Though as I was drifting off last night, the cracks and crashes did sound awfully close. . . .)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:31 PM (omVj0)

252 What was that movie where Richard Harris fight an Orca? Was it Orca?

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:31 PM (jc0TO)

253 yes, yes it was. 1977 Jaws rippoff

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:32 PM (jc0TO)

254 I think "Mud" and "Hell or High Water" are good examples of excellent movies that are not given the credit they are due.

Why? First guess: they are about men stepping up and doing what men need to do. Without a doubt, these are the best two movies I've seen in the past couple of years. And they are not new movies. They've been out there for a while.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rockin' these Bad Boys at July 05, 2025 09:33 PM (0aYVJ)

255 Watching a Svengoolie rerun and they had Amanda Bearse on. I knew her from Married With Children but didn't know she was in Fright Night (never seen it).

So snooping around, Wikipedo says they are planning a prequel later this year, for the 40th anniversery of the movie.
Posted by: haffhowershower at July 05, 2025

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I've got it on now. The movie is Return of the Vampire from 1943, with Bela Lugosi in a role that is clearly modeled on Dracula but is called Armand *Tesla*. (Clearly he has an electric personality -- an ionic character for sure.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:33 PM (omVj0)

256 Speaking of movies . . .

Netflix subscriptions may be taxed as 'tangible' property, appeals court rules

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This from Colorado, the San Francisco of the Rockies.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at July 05, 2025 09:34 PM (L/fGl)

257 What was that movie where Richard Harris fight an Orca? Was it Orca?
Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025

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I went to see it, hoping it would be bold SF and suggest that orcas were as intelligent as men. I hoped it would give us a game of move and countermove between the human and the killer whale. Nope.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 05, 2025 09:35 PM (omVj0)

258 Psycho II is actually a pretty good movie. Richard Franklin, the director is underrated, and the writer (Tom Holland, not Spider-Man) went on to do some interesting stuff.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 05, 2025 09:36 PM (CHHv1)

259 A great sequel to Shampoo would be Douche.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 05, 2025 09:36 PM (g8Ew8)

260 114 There could be a sequel to "UHF".

It's 30 years in the future and an evil streaming company is trying to do away with broadcast TV entirely. Weird Al and the crew, with a little assistance from space aliens, expose the conspiracy on their local 10 PM news show on channel 59-3.
Posted by: fd


LOL! I actually like that idea. 'UHF' was entertaining.


I'd like to see a follow up movie for 'Serenity' but they'd just fuck it up.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at July 05, 2025 09:36 PM (K9xEt)

261 The other day, one of the daily specials in the Kindle store was CRAB MONSTERS, TEENAGE CAVEMEN, & CANDY STRIPE NURSES, a look back (with lots of interviews & posters) at Roger Corman's stuff. I'd seen quite a few of the sf/horror flicks back in the 60s (never went in much for the biker or women in cages stuff); looked at a few of those again yesterday and today and was surprised at how much fun they can still be. Or maybe I'm just getting old, being well past 29.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:36 PM (q3u5l)

262 A great sequel to Shampoo would be Douche.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 05, 2025 09:36 PM

Lume: The Movie

Posted by: toby928 at July 05, 2025 09:36 PM (jc0TO)

263 Psycho II wasn't bad at all. But it wasn't Robert Bloch's Psycho II, which is probably unfilmable -- give the novel a look if you get a chance.

Hell or High Water was one of the better flicks I'd seen in a while, and worth seeing just for the closing dialog between Chris Pine and Jeff Bridges. A terrific scene.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:41 PM (q3u5l)

264 I've often thought that the Lewis and Clark Expedition would be a great streaming series. But then I think; they would make Lewis a fag, and Clark would be beating the men, and Sacajawea would be a Super Stronk Womyn who saves their bacon again and again. And she would have an affair with York. And there would be endless diatribes about the lands of the indigenous peoples being stolen by white men with theodolites, levels and sextants.

Never mind.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rockin' these Bad Boys at July 05, 2025 09:42 PM (0aYVJ)

265 Ferris Buellers day off?

Posted by: Nope! at July 05, 2025 09:43 PM (mzyYa)

266 Terror In The Night. A story of Lord Greystoke’s great great grandson in today’s England. Unsavory characters are dying under mysterious circumstances. The current Lord Greystoke tells a reporter ‘London is more savage than Africa’s most dangerous jungle. Monsters are everywhere.’’

Posted by: Eromero at July 05, 2025 09:45 PM (LHPAg)

267 Joel went to Princeton then worked for Lehman for a couple of years. Then went to Harvard Business School graduating in 1992 right as this thing called the internet was starting to happen.

While all his friends were accepting offers from Goldman Sachs or Solomon Brothers, Joel said what the fuck and took a job with a relatively unknown company called America Online. In lieu of a 6 figure starting salary (which was yuuuge money in 1992) he agreed to a very generous stock option package.

By the late 90s he was worth roughly $175M and was smart enough to sell right before the crash.






Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 05, 2025 09:45 PM (2Igpt)

268 Roger Corman's stuff. I'd seen quite a few of the sf/horror flicks back in the 60s (never went in much for the biker or women in cages stuff);

I love this stuff. There is a case to be made that these quick movies about really subjects tapped into something significant about American culture that I can't quite articulate. Roger Corman is the master of all this and he deserves a lot more recognition than he gets. He's truly one of our great filmmakers in my opinion.

Recommended: Crash! It features that an old husband confined to a wheelchair, a hot wife who's taken it over by some space alien idol she bought at a flea market, and a black Camaro convertible with side pipes that goes around crashing into things. On its own. Genius stuff

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0075887/

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 09:46 PM (NXz8h)

269 The Color of Money = Maverick the Pool Hustler

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2025 09:47 PM (vm8sq)

270 Ferris Buellers day off?
Posted by: Nope! at July 05, 2025 09:43 PM (mzyYa)

"Ferris Bueller Remembers He has an Algebra Final That He did Not Study For, and Cannot Remember Which Room He is Supposed To Be In."

Oh wait. He got a job in the Biden administration. All good.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rockin' these Bad Boys at July 05, 2025 09:47 PM (0aYVJ)

271 267...and what happened with Lana?

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 09:49 PM (y4H1r)

272 A movie about Henry VIII. Sequel could be Henry IX.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 05, 2025 09:50 PM (g8Ew8)

273 A quick question for the experts, knowing the ONT is about to drop:

I was enjoying the IFC channel but my cable provider, Frontier dropped it. I noticed when I compared individual episodes of 'Everybody loves Raymond' with TVLand vs IFC that TVLand was cutting out the first couple of minutes of Raymond, sometimes cutting out significant plot points.

I also notice a lot of times in episodes of the original Perry Mason series individuals in the credits who don't appear in the show (ex: 'Lady at cosmetic counter' but no cosmetic counter scene). Similarly, watching The Cheap Detective with Peter Falk, virtually all of Madeline Kahn's part was gone.

Can anyone suggest a streaming service where I can be assured I'm seeing the entire movie/show?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at July 05, 2025 09:51 PM (QGaXH)

274 272. Harrison Ford to play Henry in Regarding Henry IX???

Posted by: Lex at July 05, 2025 09:51 PM (y4H1r)

275 264 I've often thought that the Lewis and Clark Expedition would be a great streaming series.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Rockin' these Bad Boys at July 05, 2025 09:42 PM (0aYVJ)

________________________________

Lewis and Clark....starring Pauly Shore & Crispin Glover

Posted by: Orson at July 05, 2025 09:52 PM (dIske)

276 Thanks, Alteria. May have to check out Crash!

Agree about Corman. His high points for me are still the Poe pictures, particularly Pit and the Pendulum -- first one I saw and it still does the job for me every time.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:52 PM (q3u5l)

277 TSMF

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2025 09:52 PM (vm8sq)

278 Pixar's Bolt has held up well.
Posted by: Accomack at July 05, 2025 08:56 PM (Bbhox

My favorite animated movie.
Posted by: polynikes at July 05, 2025 08:57 PM (VofaG)

Bolt was Disney Animation Studios, not PIXAR.

Posted by: Robert sez AKSHUALLY!!!!!! at July 05, 2025 09:53 PM (1Yy3c)

279 Kathy Griffin's turned into a walking talking version of Freddy Krueger. Just saying...

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 05, 2025 09:53 PM (NXz8h)

280 I've been watching Yellowjackets. Damn, it turned "Blair Witch" all of a sudden.

Anyway, Juliette Lewis is in it, and bloody hell she looks like a guy who is transitioning.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 05, 2025 09:54 PM (9p1tT)

281 And outta here.

Thanks for the thread, Lex.

Have a good one, gang -- see some of you in the Book Thread tomorrow.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:55 PM (q3u5l)

282 Agree about Corman. His high points for me are still the Poe pictures, particularly Pit and the Pendulum -- first one I saw and it still does the job for me every time.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 05, 2025 09:52 PM (q3u5l)

They wouldn't be the same without Vincent Price.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 05, 2025 09:56 PM (g8Ew8)

283 27 Jim belushi (where has he gone) playing an older bluto
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 05, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)
Cue Anthrax, “NFL”

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 05, 2025 09:57 PM (vm8sq)

284 "Kathy Griffin's turned into a walking talking version of Freddy Krueger. Just saying...
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram"

I think they could do a sequel, "Kathy Griffin's Tales From The Crypt".

Posted by: fd at July 05, 2025 09:57 PM (vFG9F)

285 Hate to break it to you, but I think they did make a sequel to Caddyshack. I'm also pretty sure it blew goats. Figuratively, or course, but then again I didn't see it, so someone might have blown a goat.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 05, 2025 09:59 PM (MZ+PY)

286 NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2025 10:00 PM (+qU29)

287 I was in VHS duplication and then CD/DVD/BD replication for about 22 years (1998 - 2020)...

There is no "watermark" on discs, just like there was no "copy protection" on VHS.

Do what you wanna do.

Posted by: Idiocracy pt 2: The Dumbering at July 05, 2025 10:00 PM (G4q4e)

288 Gold Rush: A Tombstone Sequel.

Wyatt Earp and Josephine head to the frozen north to try to get rich opening a saloon. But Wyatt is forced to get out his Buntline Special when a conflict between locals and gold hungry outsiders turns bloody.

(Alternately, you could have him hunt a wendigo or something but this version is more set in the really real world even if Wyatt didn't go gunslinger up in the Yukon gold rush)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 05, 2025 10:01 PM (xcxpd)

289 And I liked the Caddy Shack sequel proposal, would watch.

Posted by: Idiocracy pt 2: The Dumbering at July 05, 2025 10:02 PM (G4q4e)

290 127
The Yankees were guilty of doing some pretty awful things.

Posted by: Eric2 at July 05, 2025 10:50 PM (q7Vou)

291 There was a brilliant episode of 'Boston Legal' (S3E1 in which William Shatner's character is haunted by his first trial 50 years earlier. His character in the flashback is played by.... William Shatner! The flashbacks are actually an episode of Studio One that Shatner did in 1957. With Ralph Bellamy as his father and Steve McQueen as the defendant.

It was an amazing bit of work taking advantage of Shatner's longevity.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0977321/?ref_=ttep_ep_18

Posted by: Epobirs at July 05, 2025 10:54 PM (/0z9K)

292 Event Horizon should be reconsidered for a sequel but sadly, I don't there's anyone smart enough to pull it off. It would most likely disappoint with too much focus on goofball CGI instead of great storytelling and masterful filmmaking.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at July 05, 2025 10:55 PM (QnXVi)

293 I had an idea for an elderly Harry Callahan movie. The retired Dirty Harry is suspicious of a series of death in his neighborhood. All retired government employees with gold plated pensions. They are having their hearts stopped by use of a modified defibrillator, causing their deaths to be assumed as natural causes.

I lifted that idea from a 1973 ABC TV movie starring Alan Alda titled 'Isn't It Shocking?'

Posted by: Epobirs at July 05, 2025 10:59 PM (/0z9K)

294 #287 Then what was Macrovision if not copy protection? There were workarounds but casual copying was prevented.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 05, 2025 11:01 PM (/0z9K)

295 There was a comics sequel series to 'Big Trouble in Little china' in which a time traveling Jack inadvertently befriends a young Lo Pan and set future events in motion.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 05, 2025 11:12 PM (/0z9K)

296 #252

Yes, 'Orca'. With a very young Bo Derek. She's the girl with her leg in a cast who gets eaten.

Posted by: Epobirs at July 05, 2025 11:16 PM (/0z9K)

297 Beetlejuice got a sequel in the past year. And they got reprised roles from Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder, among others. Decades after the original, with the passage of time being meaningful for the storyline.

Alec Baldwin had legal issues (mostly involving blowing away a person with a gun), so the Maitlands were handwaved out of the sequel. Ortho passed in 2010, so he couldn't reprise his role. And Jeffrey Jones had serious issues with the age of consent, so they ended up using a stunt double in an amusing way to keep the character without actually hiring him.

But they were able to revive it, and it was an amusing film.

Posted by: Another Anon at July 06, 2025 12:14 AM (4h45B)

298 This wasn't a movie, but I would have liked to have seen a "Barney Miller" dramatic cop show.

My premise would have Sgt. Levitt investigating a case that would have him cross paths with Sgt. Wojohowicz (sp?), who is happy with his posting to the canine unit; Capt. Dietrich; Ron Harris, who is ekeing out a living as an author; the formerly homeless Ray, who works at a shelter; and of course Inspector Miller. Maybe throw in Lt. Wentworth.

I had this idea when many classic shows were getting TV movie remakes. With so much of the cast gone, I never tried to flesh it out. It will remain a daydream.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 06, 2025 01:00 AM (p/isN)

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