Mid-Morning Art Thread

Les Otages
Jean-Paul Laurens

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 What’s an otage

Posted by: H at June 27, 2025 09:30 AM (2gjbv)

2 yuk

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:30 AM (gbOdA)

3 Jester be all tired and shit.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:31 AM (gbOdA)

4 Jean-Paul Laurens

1838-1931

FrenchAcademic Classicalpainter, sculptor and illustrator

Les Otages

Hostages

1896

140 x 146 cms | 55 x 57 1/4 ins
Oil on canvas

Musee des Beaux-Arts

Lyon| France

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

5 Les who?

Never heard of him.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 27, 2025 09:32 AM (Btf0M)

6 What's the story here?
Some context. . . ?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 09:32 AM (VVnrT)

7 Pink headgear?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:32 AM (6bTRc)

8 Geez, guys, get a room!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 27, 2025 09:32 AM (LxER7)

9 He does not give a specific historical setting, although he evokes the Princes in the Tower and Richard III of England. It is now collected in the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

10 "The Outages?"

Makes sense since they're dressed kinda gay.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (77rzZ)

11 Well, son, you can't win 'em all.

Posted by: Jean-Paul Laurens, Sr. at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (6bTRc)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (Zz0t1)

13 Les Otages

The Outages

Ma? When will the internet be back up?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (flKEw)

14 Les Miserables >>> Les Otages

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (Dv3i1)

15 The Hostages is an 1896 oil on canvas painting created by French painter and sculptor Jean-Paul Laurens, the last in a series of historical works by him. He does not give a specific historical setting, although he evokes the Princes in the Tower and Richard III of England. It is now collected in the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon.
(wiki)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (ULPxl)

16 Juvenile prison.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (Zz0t1)

17 Les Nessman.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (VAINm)

18 "Les Otages" is French for "WitchDoktor's House on Saturday Night."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (fFFrU)

19 French midget wrestling is boring.

Posted by: red speck at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (0Id0S)

20 "We have your children. We're keeping them in a pit."

"Oh, right on. Don't let the short one bite you."

"We dressed them like elves."

"...YOU MONSTER!!!!!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (BjH5D)

21 Definitely not a happy place.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (VVnrT)

22 Too slow!!!

*spitefully tosses pie at rhennigantx*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (ULPxl)

23 What’s an otage
Posted by: H

$20 - same as in town.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (cYBz/)

24 The art of being bored to tears.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (Q4IgG)

25 Les who?

Never heard of him.
Posted by: Pete in Texas

Les Nessman, five-time winner of the Buckeye News Hawk Award and the Silver Sow Award!
-- Les Nessman

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (77rzZ)

26 Those ain't otaku. They're just weebs.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 09:35 AM (BjH5D)

27 Looks like a scene from any airport after 9:00 when traveling with kids.

Posted by: red speck at June 27, 2025 09:35 AM (0Id0S)

28 He told Mom these outfits would get them locked up. But she sent them out like that anyway.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 09:35 AM (ftFVW)

29 Gonna need *alot* of happy little bushes to save this one.

But, hey, it's your painting.

Posted by: zombie Bob Ross at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (0sNs1)

30 "Les Otages" is French for "WitchDoktor's House on Saturday Night."
Posted by: WitchDoktor

Sounds like Taylor's place would be much more fun.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

31 Clearly, the circus is in town.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (cYBz/)

32 can someone explain

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (AOsQT)

33 Les Otages=The Otters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (VAINm)

34 "What are you in for?"

"Fighting during recess. You?"

"Falling asleep in class."

"Hmm."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (BjH5D)

35 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes_in_the_Tower

Good grief, that's depressing.

Posted by: pookysgirl could say that about most of English history at June 27, 2025 09:37 AM (Wt5PA)

36 Alternate title:

"Very Few People Know That Santa Claus Runs A Prison at the North Pole"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2025 09:37 AM (iJfKG)

37 14 Les Miserables >>> Les Otages
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Les Bians >>> Les Miserables >>> Les Otages

Posted by: Moron Math at June 27, 2025 09:38 AM (ycI94)

38 How much ya want for it?
I am prepared to offer double.

Posted by: John Podesta's brother at June 27, 2025 09:38 AM (VVnrT)

39 For a minute looked like those otages was doing some funny business.

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2025 09:38 AM (jgmnb)

40 "What are you in for?"

"Fighting during recess. You?"

"Falling asleep in class."

"Hmm."
Posted by: Warai-otoko

"We need that nerdy guy who can write that letter to the principal. And where is Ally Sheedy?"

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:38 AM (77rzZ)

41 The hostages. Depressing . Child trafficking and/or murder . Happy Friday.
Wouldn't hang. Thx for the effort though, CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 09:39 AM (pwtJC)

42 Must be the midget champion of the medieval wrastlin federation. He is a sportsman though. You can tell by the care he is taking of his vanquished foe.

Moe. Moe the foe.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 27, 2025 09:39 AM (89Sog)

43 Alternate title:

"The Gulag Elfipelago"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2025 09:39 AM (iJfKG)

44 Sounds like Taylor's place would be much more fun.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

Ha.

Although she -is- building a video game room.

When growing up I had no idea she'd be a techie. Her room looked like a place where Holly Hobby and Strawberry Shortcake would hook up.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:40 AM (WfZMN)

45 I don't get it.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 27, 2025 09:40 AM (NpAcC)

46 ...10,876,573 bottles of beer on the wall

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 09:40 AM (ITkJX)

47 The Princes in the Tower refers to the mystery of the fate of the deposed King Edward V of England and his younger brother Prince Richard of Shrewsbury, Duke of York, heirs to the throne of King Edward IV of England. The brothers were the only sons of the king by his queen, Elizabeth Woodville, living at the time of their father's death in 1483. Aged 12 and 9 years old, respectively, they were lodged in the Tower of London by their paternal uncle and England's regent, Richard, Duke of Gloucester, in preparation for Edward V's forthcoming coronation. Before the young king's coronation, however, he and his brother were declared illegitimate by Parliament. Gloucester ascended the throne as Richard III.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:40 AM (gbOdA)

48 It appears that the song and dance act didn't go over well with the audience.

Posted by: dantesed at June 27, 2025 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)

49 15 The Hostages is an 1896 oil on canvas painting created by French painter and sculptor Jean-Paul Laurens, the last in a series of historical works by him. He does not give a specific historical setting, although he evokes the Princes in the Tower and Richard III of England. It is now collected in the Museum of Fine Arts of Lyon.
(wiki)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 09:33 AM (ULPxl)
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They weren't exactly "hostages" though, were they? If you believe the story, Richard just wanted to get rid of them for his own ends. Wonder if this is a translation thing.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 27, 2025 09:41 AM (LxER7)

50 Their Uncle murdered them and took their stuff.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:41 AM (VAINm)

51 Good grief, that's depressing.
Posted by: pookysgirl could say that about most of English history at June 27, 2025 09:37 AM (Wt5PA)
++++
It is unclear what happened to the two princes after the last recorded sighting of them in the tower. It is generally assumed that they were murdered; a common hypothesis is that the murder was commissioned by Richard III in an attempt to secure his hold on the throne. Their deaths may have occurred sometime in 1483, but apart from their disappearance, the only evidence is circumstantial. As a result, several other theories about their fates have been proposed, including the suggestion that they were murdered by their kinsman the Duke of Buckingham, their future brother-in-law King Henry VII, or his mother Lady Margaret Beaufort, among others. It has also been suggested that one or both princes may have escaped assassination.

Regal politics is a rough game.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:41 AM (6bTRc)

52 Note to self: Never make fun of the King

Posted by: Court Jester at June 27, 2025 09:41 AM (fLQ2m)

53 Note to self: Never make fun of the King
Posted by: Court Jester

Or call him a fink.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:42 AM (77rzZ)

54 Maybe Kris could chime in and explain this one to me.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 27, 2025 09:42 AM (NpAcC)

55 In before all the THIS IS GAY comments

Posted by: Rando del Ashalle at June 27, 2025 09:43 AM (eCuBP)

56 Elizabeth Woodville was a hottie, from what I've read.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:43 AM (77rzZ)

57 They wanted to be dentists.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:43 AM (VAINm)

58 Vincent Price

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:44 AM (gbOdA)

59 "The Hostages"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0)

60 Note to self: Never make fun of the King
Posted by: Court Jester at June 27, 2025 09:41 AM (fLQ2m)
++++
Respectfully, what is you would say you actually *do* here?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (6bTRc)

61 55 In before all the THIS IS GAY comments

Posted by: Rando del Ashalle

i was > < that close.

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (L2nWE)

62 It is unclear what happened to the two princes after the last recorded sighting of them in the tower. It is generally assumed that they were murdered; a common hypothesis is that the murder was commissioned by Richard III in an attempt to secure his hold on the throne. Their deaths may have occurred sometime in 1483, but apart from their disappearance, the only evidence is circumstantial. As a result, several other theories about their fates have been proposed, including the suggestion that they were murdered by their kinsman the Duke of Buckingham, their future brother-in-law King Henry VII, or his mother Lady Margaret Beaufort, among others. It has also been suggested that one or both princes may have escaped assassination.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Nah. There were both hired on as Pony Express riders and ended up in Rancho Cucamonga at the Popeyes there.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (cYBz/)

63 They wanted to be dentists.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:43 AM (VAINm)
*****
Gay dentists.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (NpAcC)

64 In before all the THIS IS GAY comments
Posted by: Rando del Ashalle

CBD's farewell to Pride Month.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (77rzZ)

65 Nah. There were both hired on as Pony Express riders and ended up in Rancho Cucamonga at the Popeyes there.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (cYBz/)
++++
I love a happy ending!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (6bTRc)

66 Regal politics is a rough game.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:41 AM (6bTRc)

I couldn't bring myself to post the relevant part of that article on their fate, which is a bit further down than your excerpt. Possibly because I had my own little one in my arms.

Posted by: pookysgirl, trying to focus on the little musicmaker at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (Wt5PA)

67 One of yhem is the rightfull king.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (VAINm)

68 Very sad.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (mT+6a)

69 Violent regal intrigue is the main reason we abdicated the Polka Throne.

Posted by: The Schmenge Brothers at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (G5+As)

70 He had some interesting historical paintings. I’m not a big fan of this one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (2GCMq)

71 CBD's farewell to Pride Month.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (77rzZ)

Pride Month comes 3 months before the Fall.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (gbOdA)

72 The hostages… children, obviously. I would not hang this, no I would not.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (PCK5/)

73 Couple gloves and a ball would give them something to do, just sayin'.

Posted by: Capt. Virgil Hilts at June 27, 2025 09:46 AM (LxER7)

74 "The Hostages"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0)

And it's Big Boob Friday . . . . Hey! Where . . .?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (D7oie)

75 Back home in North Alabama from the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of Colorado. that place is just fooking wierd.

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (L2nWE)

76 Are those small pieces of bone on the floor?? Or is it just straw?

Posted by: dantesed at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (Oy/m2)

77 Violent regal intrigue is the main reason we abdicated the Polka Throne.
Posted by: The Schmenge Brothers

We were big in Sheboygan.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (cYBz/)

78 Possibly because I had my own little one in my arms.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Is he ready for the football team yet?

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

79
Turning the Tables - a limerick

The stolen kids of Old Mister Bransoon
Were obnoxious and a far cry from handsome
Their dad said "It's tough,
but if we wait long enough
The kidnappers will pay US the ransom!"

Posted by: muldoon at June 27, 2025 09:48 AM (poXs5)

80 I would hang this in my classroom if I taught 3rd or 4th graders and tell them it is the principals office.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:48 AM (gbOdA)

81 very bleak- no hang

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:48 AM (AOsQT)

82 I think it was Henry VII who done the Princes in.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:48 AM (77rzZ)

83
Nah. There were both hired on as Pony Express riders and ended up in Rancho Cucamonga at the Popeyes there.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 27, 2025 09:45 AM (cYBz/)

======

False.

They were adopted by traveling gypsies and became a double act: The Knife Throwing Twins.

They honed their skills for years until they were sent on a mission to assassinate their uncle, Richard.

They threw the knives that killed him, but the evidence has been obscured by the damage done to Richard's body immediately afterwards and the time after his death and until his body's discovery under the car park.

The brothers then went off and continued their gypsy performing careers, dying happily in their 90s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (GBKbO)

84 75 Back home in North Alabama from the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of Colorado. that place is just fooking wierd.
Posted by: BifBewalski at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (L2nWE)

The grass is NOT always greener, is it, Bif??

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (PCK5/)

85 I can't imagine an image of the little boys locked in the Tower of London that is more heartrending. Their small figures are dwarfed by the heavy, stark stones. Their bright clothing a contrast to the dull colors of the stonework that dominates the scene. And their poses. The despair, maybe resignation, of the older boy even as he offers the only comfort he can for the smaller one who sleeps in innocence. Too young to understand why they are there. No food, water or any means of comfort, just impending death of two innocent children. It is grim in a way anyone can feel and does so effectively.

As much as I admire Laurens' talent, this is a tough scene. I hope the rest of the day is more uplifting.

Posted by: JTB at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (yTvNw)

86 And it's Big Boob Friday . . . . Hey! Where . . .?
Posted by: Kindltot

You rang?
-- Bill Gates

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

87 Festively dressed children in a dungeon.

Would not hang.

It is a well lit dungeon, though.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (fV+MH)

88 there's a hole in the floor, lower left corner

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (AOsQT)

89 The kidnappers will pay US the ransom!"
Posted by: muldoon at June 27, 2025 09:48 AM (poXs5)

The Apple Dumpling Gang or Ruthless People

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (gbOdA)

90 seems kinda sad

Posted by: Otto Pen at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (sJHOI)

91 OMG! This looks like Trump is putting mariachi bands in jail.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (g8Ew8)

92 It is a well lit dungeon, though.
Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (fV+MH)
++++
Tower, not cellar. Royalty - even deposed royalty on their way to execution - get somewhat special treatment, I suppose.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (6bTRc)

93 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. The older kid is annoyed. It's his turn to clean the chamber pot.
Goes looking for coffee

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (W/lyH)

94 Painting: Helpful explanation from MBA Lyon, in case nobody else has linked it yet:
https://tinyurl.com/54r6vf3y

Posted by: gp Steps On Cusp Barefooted at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (IqBEX)

95 "I feel like a Plantagenet."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (xTinh)

96 At least there is no dragon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (VAINm)

97 At least there is no dragon.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (VAINm)
++++
It's just out of frame.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (6bTRc)

98 Phillippa Langley who was an amateur historian and helped find the remains of Richard III buried under what became a car park, has a book!, “The Princes in the Tower” with her theory that Richard didnt kill them but that they both survived

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (2GCMq)

99 Alternate title:

"Timeout at CBD's House"

Caption:

"This hurts me more than you, but I've told you before, "No maple syrup on French Toast!!!"

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (iJfKG)

100 97 At least there is no dragon.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (VAINm)
++++
It's just out of frame.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (6bTRc)
---

Pro-tip: Do NOT drop a stone down the hole.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (LxER7)

101 100

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (gbOdA)

102 CBD's farewell to Pride Month.
Posted by: Bulg

Nah, I expect something truly #FABULOUS on Monday to close out June.

Also, on a positive note, my very large corporate employer didn't mention gay pride at all this year. June is apparently National Safety Month. Who knew?

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (ftFVW)

103 What kind of Cob posts this depressing painting leading off a summer weekend?

Posted by: Browbeaten Barry at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (G5+As)

104 This is what happens when you don't eat your meat.

No pudding.

Sad.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (Q4IgG)

105 Is he ready for the football team yet?

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

Almost. He's ridiculously strong and is currently mostly filling out a 18-month sleeper.

Posted by: pookysgirl, looking for toddler football leagues at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (Wt5PA)

106 Pro-tip: Do NOT drop a stone down the hole.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (LxER7)
++++
Seconded. Stones are rough. No joy at all. Nothing like a fuzzy lil' hamster!

Posted by: Richard Gere at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (6bTRc)

107 What kind of Cob posts this depressing painting leading off a summer weekend?
Posted by: Browbeaten Barry at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (G5+As)

French-Adjacent.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (xTinh)

108
knock knock
who's there
Huguenot
Huguenot who
Huguenot leave this tower!

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (AOsQT)

109 "I feel like a Plantagenet."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:50 AM (xTinh)

Isn't that what Harvey Weinstein did to his ficus?

Is that what the kids are calling it?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2025 09:53 AM (iJfKG)

110 French-Adjacent.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (xTinh)
++++
Ouch

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 09:53 AM (6bTRc)

111
Circular Reasoning - a bonus limerick

The sad tale of Little Jack Horner
Who each day grew a little forlorner
His older sister Daisy
drove him just a little crazy
"Here's a round room, go sit in the corner!"

Posted by: muldoon at June 27, 2025 09:53 AM (poXs5)

112 I think it was Henry VII who done the Princes in.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025

***
Mystery novelist (and historian by training) Josephine Tey (her pen name) runs this theory up the flagpole in her The Daughter of Time. She wasn't the first to come up with the notion, but she makes it quite clear who is related to whom and asks Cui bono? (who benefits?). Henry VII had much more motive apparently than did Richard III.

It's also a very entertaining novel; recommended.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:53 AM (omVj0)

113 You!

You behind the grain shed!!

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 09:54 AM (fV+MH)

114
The grass is NOT always greener, is it, Bif??

Posted by: tubal

absolutely not. i had to go help fix a red program due to zero system engineering, lack of good comms between the user, the government, and the program. they got themselves into a real dilly of barrel there. glad I only had to be there for the week.

those responsible have been sacked. the newbies are all certified by me for systems engineering and understand the problem they have to dig out of. executives have been notified of the messaging they must accomplish with the government to bail themselves out of the sinking ship. sad all around that it got so effed up.

happy to not live there for sure.

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 27, 2025 09:54 AM (L2nWE)

115 Also, on a positive note, my very large corporate employer didn't mention gay pride at all this year. June is apparently National Safety Month. Who knew?
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM

I believe it's National OKC Thunder month.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 27, 2025 09:54 AM (MGB5H)

116 It's also a very entertaining novel; recommended.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Seconded.

Posted by: Tuna at June 27, 2025 09:54 AM (lJ0H4)

117 You want an interesting imprisoned prince story, read about Emperor Ivan VI of Russia. He succeeded to the throne as an infant, a half-great-grand-nephew of Peter the Great. After a little over a year on the throne under the regency of his mother, he was deposed by Peter's daughter Elizabeth and imprisoned for the rest of his life. Early in the reign of Catherine the Great, one of soldiers guarding him attempted to free him, at which point both Ivan and the soldier were killed. Ivan was only 24 when he died.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:54 AM (77rzZ)

118 The Tower of London was not always a prison. In Richard's time, I think, it was still considered an alternate royal residence. Its use as a prison came somewhat later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:55 AM (omVj0)

119 As much as I admire Laurens' talent, this is a tough scene. I hope the rest of the day is more uplifting.
Posted by: JTB at June 27, 2025 09:49 AM (yTvNw)

It's amazing how it captures the sheer soul crushing boredom of it all.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 09:55 AM (BjH5D)

120 118 The Tower of London was not always a prison. In Richard's time, I think, it was still considered an alternate royal residence. Its use as a prison came somewhat later.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:55 AM (omVj0)

======

Now it's a prison for jewels.

I must liberate them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 09:55 AM (GBKbO)

121 Err .. okay.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 09:56 AM (jc0TO)

122 I have been to the Tower. Very interesting place.
Great museum of art, arms, and royal jewels.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:57 AM (gbOdA)

123 Now it's a prison for jewels.

I must liberate them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

FAFO, Piggyback Boy.
-- Big Raven

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)

124 It's also a very entertaining novel; recommended.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
*
Seconded.
Posted by: Tuna at June 27, 2025

***
Daughter of Time is also amazingly told, in that you know who all the major players are and how they are related without needing a family tree. You know how, in reading history, you've got Richard Whatever, and then halfway through his life he gets made Lord So-and-So? If you miss the point where that happens, you wonder, "Who is this Lord So-and-So guy and where did he come from?" Somehow Tey avoids that confusion very neatly.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (omVj0)

125 oh and Rooks

They have rooks there.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (gbOdA)

126 @SecDef
I am pleased to announce that the United States Navy is renaming the USNS Harvey Milk to the USNS Oscar V. Peterson.

We are taking the politics out of ship naming.
---

Oscar Verner Peterson was a Chief Petty Officer in the United States Navy who received the Medal of Honor posthumously in World War II for his actions during the Battle of the Coral Sea.

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (AOsQT)

127 Tower of Pizza>>Tower of London

Posted by: Hangry Hank at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (G5+As)

128
I have been to the Tower. Very interesting place.
Great museum of art, arms, and royal jewels.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 09:57 AM (gbOdA)

Yes, we've heard you raven about it.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2025 09:59 AM (iJfKG)

129 126 Oscar Verner Peterson was a Chief Petty Officer in the United States Navy who received the Medal of Honor posthumously in World War II for his actions during the Battle of the Coral Sea.
Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (AOsQT)

=======

"This is an attack on the Navy, politicization of the process, and a dishonor to a great American."
-NRO

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 09:59 AM (GBKbO)

130 "Hostages" is a timely title

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 10:00 AM (8ntUr)

131 I believe it's National OKC Thunder month.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Ha, I guess it is now! The outdoor lighting would suggest as much. Blue and orange, much better than rainbow.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 10:00 AM (ftFVW)

132 Where are the torture gadgets? This painting needs torture gadgets.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 10:01 AM (g8Ew8)

133 SecDef
I am pleased to announce that the United States Navy is renaming the USNS Harvey Milk to the USNS Oscar V. Peterson.

We are taking the politics out of ship naming.
---

Oscar Verner Peterson was a Chief Petty Officer in the United States Navy who received the Medal of Honor posthumously in World War II for his actions during the Battle of the Coral Sea.
Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM (AOsQT)
++++
1. Good.
2. I was promised that this would happen during "Pride Month," and it did. Secretary Hegseth is keeping promises!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 10:01 AM (6bTRc)

134
Yes, we've heard you raven about it.

Posted by: naturalfake

what about the air pandas?

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 27, 2025 10:01 AM (L2nWE)

135 A silly meme popped into my head yesterday. Not sure why, but it cracked me up.

Dude, handsome strapping male, says "I only eat fresh, organic pussy. None of that man made stuff." Cut to a post-op tranny...........hardest hit.

It made me laugh in my head.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 10:02 AM (Zz0t1)

136 Yes, we've heard you raven about it.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2025 09:59 AM (iJfKG)

It is my favorite part off Rome.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:02 AM (gbOdA)

137 @TonerousHyus
·
33s
SCOTUS rules universal injunctions by lower courts unlawful.

=======

SQUEEEEE!!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:03 AM (GBKbO)

138 I saw the post about Lalo Schifrin -- great composer.

I watched a documentary on the making of The Exorcist -- Schifrin wrote the original score that was rejected by William Friedkin (he was not pleased). However, you can hear the string arrangement in The Exorcist trailers (that scared the crap out of me as a kid).

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2025 10:03 AM (qwx/I)

139 6-3

I've been saying that every conservative on the Court was sick of the lower courts bullshit and had been saying it for years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (GBKbO)

140 SCOTUS gives trump win on nationwide injunctions. How big? Not sure.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (G0vdT)

141 "SQUEEEEE!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"

I second that squeee.

Wait. We're dudes we shouldn't be squeeing.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (fV+MH)

142 It made me laugh in my head.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Sad. If it was really good you would laugh out loud.

LIMH just doesn't hit the same as LOL.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (XlI3u)

143 SCOTUS gives trump win on nationwide injunctions. How big? Not sure.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (G0vdT)

So, they're admitting district judges can't rule outside of their district? Interesting.

What's Hawaii gonna do now? No one will hear from them, nor care anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (Zz0t1)

144 141 "SQUEEEEE!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"

I second that squeee.

Wait. We're dudes we shouldn't be squeeing.
Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (fV+MH)

======

This is true.

I amend my previous statement to read:

America. Fuck yeah.

*chugs lite beer*
*crushes beer can on head*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (GBKbO)

145 SCOTUS rules universal injunctions by lower courts unlawful.

Well, it's about time you said something.

Posted by: dantesed at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (Oy/m2)

146 IS the movie Tower of London the Play Richard III?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (gbOdA)

147 Wait. We're dudes we shouldn't be squeeing.
Posted by: eleven

It's okay, I'll squee for you.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (XlI3u)

148 SCOTUS gives trump win on nationwide injunctions. How big? Not sure.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (G0vdT)
++++
OVERRULED

Posted by: Circuit Court Judge at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (6bTRc)

149 146 IS the movie Tower of London the Play Richard III?
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (gbOdA)

======

Cormanized, but yeah.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (GBKbO)

150 I second that squeee.

Wait. We're dudes we shouldn't be squeeing.
Posted by: eleven

I ounce found myself sharing an elevator with Sebastian Gorka in DC.

I squeed in my head.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (77rzZ)

151
I still think the name should have been changed to the Oliver Sipple, as a colossal troll to the commies, but I'm vindictive that way.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (FoIOl)

152 Sad. If it was really good you would laugh out loud.

LIMH just doesn't hit the same as LOL.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (XlI3u)

I was alone in my back yard hauling old fence to a trailer for disposal. I felt had I laughed hysterically out loud, someone might've overheard and called the police.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (Zz0t1)

153 OVERRULED
Posted by: Circuit Court Judge at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (6bTRc)

Oh please oh please oh please....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (BjH5D)

154 "I watched a documentary on the making of The Exorcist -- Schifrin wrote the original score that was rejected by William Friedkin (he was not pleased). However, you can hear the string arrangement in The Exorcist trailers (that scared the crap out of me as a kid).
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie "

I still remember that trailer to this day. When they open the door and everything is flying around the room.

Literally made me too scared to see thje movie.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (fV+MH)

155 Supreme Court Ruling struck down by a lower court.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (VAINm)

156 This is what happens when you don't eat your meat.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

*********

Betcher Bottom Dollar!

An optimistic giant named Yarrow
Had a boy who was thin as an arrow
Stayed in his room, wouldn't eat
Broken bones nor bloody meat
But hey, the son'll come out, for marrow!

Posted by: muldoon at June 27, 2025 10:07 AM (poXs5)

157 SCOTUS rules universal injunctions by lower courts unlawful.

---------

Huh. Maybe we should insult the SCOTUS more.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 10:07 AM (g8Ew8)

158 It made me laugh in my head.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Sad. If it was really good you would laugh out loud.

LIMH just doesn't hit the same as LOL.
Posted by: She Hobbit

ROTFLMAO

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 10:07 AM (flKEw)

159 *crushes beer can on head*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (GBKbO)

I used to do that in college as a party gag. Then, someone substituted a steel can.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 10:07 AM (Zz0t1)

160 The funniest thing about the whole nationwide injunction thing is that it can't be turned on the right because the right hasn't been using it.

When the 5th Circuit struck down Biden's student loan giveaway, it only applied to the states in the 5th Circuit according to the 5th Circuit's own opinion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:07 AM (GBKbO)

161 @JonathanTurley
...we have birthright citizenship. It is written by Barrett.

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:07 AM (AOsQT)

162 Rancho Cucamonga
Sheboygan

Talk about a target-rich limerick environment!

Posted by: muldoon at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (poXs5)

163 >>SCOTUS gives trump win on nationwide injunctions. How big? Not sure.

Yuge.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (viF8m)

164 IS the movie Tower of London the Play Richard III?
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (gbOdA)

Somebody once asked Werner Klemperer, of Judgment at Nuremburg and Hogan's Hero fame, how he, a Jew who had escaped Hitler's Germany, could play a Nazi.

His reply was, "I'm an actor. If I can play Richard III, I can play a Nazi."

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)

165 ACB wrote the opinion, too.

I was hoping it'd be Alito.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (GBKbO)

166 Thomas has a concurring opinion in which he stresses that the Court "today puts an end to the 'increasingly common' practice of federal courts issuing universal injunctions."

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (G0vdT)

167 @JonathanTurley
·
3m
...Trump Administration wins a push back by the Court on lower court judges: Universal injunctions "likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to federal courts."

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (AOsQT)

168 >>> 144 141 "SQUEEEEE!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison"

I second that squeee.

Wait. We're dudes we shouldn't be squeeing.
Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:04 AM (fV+MH)

======

This is true.

I amend my previous statement to read:

America. Fuck yeah.

*chugs lite beer*
*crushes beer can on head*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (GBKbO)

*ponders*

*raises card*

9.5

Posted by: East German Judge at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (ULPxl)

169 Zohran may have a winning strategy.
Running as Communist with Nazi ideas on race and Jews.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (gbOdA)

170 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 27, 2025 09:58 AM

I think I first read that book when I was about thirteen .i loved it and read it again decades later.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (2GCMq)

171 AhhhhhhhrooooOOOOOOOOH!

Posted by: Werewolves of London at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (0sNs1)

172 I ounce found myself sharing an elevator with Sebastian Gorka in DC.

I squeed in my head.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:06 AM (77rzZ)
++++
The only notable person with whom I've ever been in an elevator is the current governor of Colorado, well before he was Governor.

I told him exactly what I thought of his corrupt gerrymander and he had literally no response. None. Silence. Not even a literal "elevator speech" prepped for an *extremely* controversial issue (and very common item of discussion) at the time. Woefully unprepared and slow on his feet. I was decidedly unimpressed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (6bTRc)

173 169 Zohran may have a winning strategy.
Running as Communist with Nazi ideas on race and Jews.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (gbOdA)

Fun fact:

"Pogrom" is not a German word.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (BjH5D)

174 "It's okay, I'll squee for you.
Posted by: She Hobbit"

Ma'am.

::tips hat::

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (fV+MH)

175 @JonathanTurley
...we have birthright citizenship. It is written by Barrett.
Posted by: Don Black

And we are the only country in the world that does.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (flKEw)

176 This is true.

I amend my previous statement to read:

America. Fuck yeah.

*chugs lite beer*
*crushes beer can on head*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM (GBKbO)
***

So close.
You came so close to reclaiming man points.
Lite beer. Sheesh!

Posted by: Man Point Accountant at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (W/lyH)

177 176 So close.
You came so close to reclaiming man points.
Lite beer. Sheesh!
Posted by: Man Point Accountant at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (W/lyH)

=======

Guinness should not be chugged, you swine.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (GBKbO)

178 From SCOTUSBLOG.

ACB getting a little fed up with Jackson.

ACB *blisters* Justice Jackson's solo dissent -- " We observe only this:JUSTICE JACKSON decries an imperial Executive while em-bracing an imperial Judiciary."

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (G0vdT)

179 The theories about anyone other than Richard III doing the Princes in don't hold water; the number one reason that large swathes of the nobility and gentry turned on him, including many who had been loyal to his House of York, was the rumors that he had the Princes murdered. Nothing less than that would have caused nobles like the Stanley family to support a Welsh pretender like Henry Tudor with a very dubious claim to the crown. If the Princes were still alive during Richard's reign, and were only killed after Richard's death by Henry VII, Richard only had to produce them to prevent mass defections among his allies. Similarly, if they were murdered by Buckingham, who Richard later executed, he would at least have charged Buckingham with that crime, in an attempt to deflect blame from himself. Richard's absolute silence in the face of the destructive rumors about the murder of the Princes is the most damning evidence possible. The whole attempt to rehabilitate Richard is an exercise in unhealthy romanticism; he was the type of nasty piece of work who, like Luigi Mangione or a pit bull, who inspires devotion in a familiar type of neurotic, usually but not exclusively female.

Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (1pand)

180 *chugs lite beer*
*crushes beer can on head*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:05 AM

It is more impressive if you crush the can on your head before drinking it.

Posted by: Ahnold at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (0sNs1)

181 "Pogrom" is not a German word.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Russian. "Like thunder."

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (77rzZ)

182 Guinness should not be chugged, you swine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (GBKbO)

I always knew you were the kind of guy who sipped a car bomb.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (BjH5D)

183 His reply was, "I'm an actor. If I can play Richard III, I can play a Nazi."
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:08 AM (77rzZ)

Best ever Nazi in a movie is
Christoph Waltz
Col. Hans Landa

Truly evil.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (gbOdA)

184 Where's the bathroom?

Posted by: Umm... at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (XQo4F)

185 It is more impressive if you crush the can on your head before drinking it.
Posted by: Ahnold at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (0sNs1)
++++
Buy the book.

Posted by: Tales from the E.R., Volume XXVII at June 27, 2025 10:12 AM (6bTRc)

186 182 Guinness should not be chugged, you swine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (GBKbO)

I always knew you were the kind of guy who sipped a car bomb.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (BjH5D)

=======

I had a car bomb once. Didn't like it.

Too explosive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:12 AM (GBKbO)

187 Trump is having some kinda week.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 10:12 AM (viF8m)

188 From SCOTUSBLOG.

ACB getting a little fed up with Jackson.

ACB *blisters* Justice Jackson's solo dissent -- " We observe only this:JUSTICE JACKSON decries an imperial Executive while em-bracing an imperial Judiciary."
Posted by: WisRich

From fly-over country:

Conservative America is getting a little fed up with Amy Bony Carrot.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 10:12 AM (flKEw)

189 Where's the bathroom?
Posted by: Umm.

On the right. Duh.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (77rzZ)

190 I had a car bomb once. Didn't like it.

Too explosive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:12 AM (GBKbO)

Tilt the pint and slide the shot in next time.

This isn't the movies.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (BjH5D)

191 That shot ACB took at KBJ was killer.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (G0vdT)

192 Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions 6-3 vote. More to come

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (pwtJC)

193 Quaker Oatage, a nutritious part of this complete breakfast.

Posted by: Warm. Hearty. Fibrous. at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (TbWk/)

194 I would imagine at least one or more lower court judges are going to "test" SCOTUS and continue with the injunctions and TRO's.

Because they're being paid to do so. And also egos.

Maybe mostly egos. But for certain, there's money involved.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (Q4IgG)

195 When a court concludes that the Executive Branch has acted unlawfully, the answer is not for the court to exceed its power, too. The Government’s applications for partial stays of the preliminary injunctions are granted, but only to the extent that the injunctions are
broader than necessary to provide complete relief to each plaintiff with
standing to sue.

-------

Pretty much:

Lower courts can apply injunctions for their clients in order to receive relief, and no more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)

196 Cucamonga, you're nothing without us!

Posted by: Anaheim and Azusa at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (0sNs1)

197 192 Supreme Court limits nationwide injunctions 6-3 vote. More to come
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (pwtJC)

A wins a win....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (VE6XX)

198 Guinness should not be chugged, you swine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
______

It's fine to chug Guinness. Only 4.2 ABV, barely higher than an average lite beer.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:15 AM (ITkJX)

199 Les Nessman, five-time winner of the Buckeye News Hawk Award and the Silver Sow Award!
-- Les Nessman
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 09:34 AM (77rzZ)

Now with more music and Les Nessman!

Posted by: Dr. Johnny Fever at June 27, 2025 10:15 AM (vlXMQ)

200 194 I would imagine at least one or more lower court judges are going to "test" SCOTUS and continue with the injunctions and TRO's.

Because they're being paid to do so. And also egos.

Maybe mostly egos. But for certain, there's money involved.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (Q4IgG)

======

They're shit throwing assholes who don't give a shit about the law or precedent.

Yes, they'll continue, but the slapdowns will come faster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

201 That shot ACB took at KBJ was killer.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (G0vdT)

Sheesh. One more trigger word in this sentence and the Feds be all over this.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (W/lyH)

202 So, the spirit of aloha is out?

Posted by: dantesed at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (Oy/m2)

203 Lower courts can apply injunctions for their clients in order to receive relief, and no more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM

They will circumvent this by certifying nationwide classes and making it a class action.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (jc0TO)

204 198 Guinness should not be chugged, you swine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
______

It's fine to chug Guinness. Only 4.2 ABV, barely higher than an average lite beer.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:15 AM (ITkJX)

=======

This is like saying it's fine to down a MacCallan 18 in one gulp because the alcohol content isn't higher than Jack Daniels #9.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (GBKbO)

205 Yes, they'll continue, but the slapdowns will come faster.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

I think they can be ignored more easily too

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (VE6XX)

206 ACB getting a little fed up with Jackson.

ACB *blisters* Justice Jackson's solo dissent -- " We observe only this:JUSTICE JACKSON decries an imperial Executive while em-bracing an imperial Judiciary."
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:10 AM (G0vdT)

The honeymoon's over?

https://is.gd/aO6EEc

*Yahoo "news" link

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)

207 Bruno Ganz as Hitler was perfection.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (fV+MH)

208 It's fine to chug Guinness. Only 4.2 ABV, barely higher than an average lite beer.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:15 AM (ITkJX)

Instead of drinking imported beers, you should try a bottle of Orphan Tears

Posted by: Sip sipping on Orphan Tears at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (TbWk/)

209 @JonathanTurley
·
5m
...Notably, Justice Kagan who condemned these universal injunctions during the Obama Administration has found a comfort level with those injunctions during the Trump Administration...

of course

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (AOsQT)

210 Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (1pand)

I reject your well-reasoned and compelling argument in favor of the documentary The Black Adder.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM (FoIOl)

211 Waiting for the next call of "Where's my Jester?!?".

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM (Hw6WF)

212 "It's not an injunction. It's a TRO."

"Yeah, but we're still gonna TRO your ass in the tower, twinklenuts."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM (BjH5D)

213 That shot ACB took at KBJ was killer.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:13 AM (G0vdT)

Sheesh. One more trigger word in this sentence and the Feds be all over this.
Posted by: Diogenes

I like the way ACB targeted her comment at KBJ.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM (77rzZ)

214 203 They will circumvent this by certifying nationwide classes and making it a class action.
Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:16 AM (jc0TO)

======

Which is already hard to do, bumps up against jurisdiction, and is actively getting knocked down (Boesberg tried it and failed).

Yes, the lower courts will fight it because they're filled with activist douchenozzles.

But this is a huge step forward. It doesn't fix the out of control judiciary, but it makes it easier to adjust them back to reality.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM (GBKbO)

215 Cucamonga, you're nothing without us!
Posted by: Anaheim and Azusa at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (0sNs1)

*kicks rock*

Posted by: Barstow at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM (W/lyH)

216 "The Supreme Court sided with the Trump administration in its requests to partially enforce its birthright citizenship order.

In a 6-3 ruling, the majority found that lower courts exceeded their authority by issuing a nationwide block on President Donald Trump’s birthright citizenship restrictions.

“The injunctions before us today reflect a more recent development: district courts asserting the power to prohibit enforcement of a law or policy against anyone,” Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote in the majority opinion. “These injunctions—known as ‘universal injunctions’—likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to federal courts. We therefore grant
the Government’s applications to partially stay the injunctions entered below.”

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 10:18 AM (g47mK)

217 That's a win.

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 10:19 AM (g47mK)

218 217 That's a win.
Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 10:19 AM (g47mK)

I'll take it

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:19 AM (VE6XX)

219 the way I understand this is, a court can only provide TRO for the specific group of people mentioned in the suit, and NOT for every person in the known universe who might make a similar claim

unless I'm wrong

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:20 AM (AOsQT)

220 " We observe only this:JUSTICE JACKSON decries an imperial Executive while em-bracing an imperial Judiciary."

==

ouch !!!

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 10:20 AM (g47mK)

221 Markets are reacting favorably.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:20 AM (G0vdT)

222 Hey, Diogenes, I found out at my family gathering on Sunday that one of my nephews is the coach of the golf team at the high school I attended (which did not have a golf team when I was there).

And another nephew (cousin of the first nephew) is the assistant coach.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:20 AM (77rzZ)

223 Boasberg must be disappointed he is no longer president.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 10:21 AM (viF8m)

224 Well ACB arranged for the songs sung from Hamilton because Hamilton was black. Like Justice Jackson.

*insert googly eyes here*

Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2025 10:21 AM (Hxfl9)

225 222 Hey, Diogenes, I found out at my family gathering on Sunday that one of my nephews is the coach of the golf team at the high school I attended (which did not have a golf team when I was there).

And another nephew (cousin of the first nephew) is the assistant coach.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:20 AM (77rzZ)

Hell of a way to find out your nephews are ghey.

Posted by: NTTAWWT at June 27, 2025 10:21 AM (TbWk/)

226 Hey, Diogenes, I found out at my family gathering on Sunday that one of my nephews is the coach of the golf team at the high school I attended (which did not have a golf team when I was there).

And another nephew (cousin of the first nephew) is the assistant coach.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:20 AM (77rzZ)

Cool!
Do they give lessons?
I need lessons!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:21 AM (W/lyH)

227 179- Philippa Langley doesn't sound neurotic to me and a comparison to Luigi Mangione fans seems forced .She does a lot of research. I do realize, though that historians can have strong views on this

( Long article on her book and the theory):

https://tinyurl.com/5eswbn8p

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:22 AM (2GCMq)

228 The Luau is over.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:22 AM (VAINm)

229 Being on a high school golf team must be awesome.

Any time it rains for practice you can just hang out in the cafeteria and drink.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (BjH5D)

230 Cool!
Do they give lessons?
I need lessons!
Posted by: Diogenes

Maybe. But you'd have to go to Michigan.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (77rzZ)

231 So, the lower courts just coordinate their injunctions and TRO's for their relevant districts and instead of one being issued there will be many.

All with the same thing.

Hardly a bother... all they need are a few extra runners to bring the complaints to the judges.

Or not.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (Q4IgG)

232 Anyone dressing this way should be in prison. It would make the inmates happy.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (FmapG)

233 Why can't I be called by three names?
*sniff*

Posted by: Elana Kagan at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (XQo4F)

234 in other news, that container ship full of cars that was burning off of Alaska finally sank. They landed a recovery crew to try and put the growing fire out, but it finally burned a hole through the hull. Down to Davy Jones Locker.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 10:24 AM (uWKK8)

235 233 Why can't I be called by three names?
*sniff*
Posted by: Elana Kagan at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (XQo4F)

Elena, I call you a lot of names.. Most not printable

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:24 AM (VE6XX)

236 Why can't I be called by three names?
*sniff*
Posted by: Elana Kagan

Maybe get married, you fat-assed lesbo.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:24 AM (77rzZ)

237 This is like saying it's fine to down a MacCallan 18 in one gulp because the alcohol content isn't higher than Jack Daniels #9.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
________

Fair, so I'll add that there's nothing complex about Guinness' taste. It's training wheels for stout drinkers.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (ITkJX)

238 "Why can't I be called by three names?
*sniff*
Posted by: Elana Kagan "

Hah.

Posted by: Jackie Mackey Paisley Passey at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (fV+MH)

239 237 Fair, so I'll add that there's nothing complex about Guinness' taste. It's training wheels for stout drinkers.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (ITkJX)

======

I do like other stouts more, for sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (GBKbO)

240 The 3 libs on the court are, um, mad. Soto and Jackson reading their dissents from the bench.

Let'm fume!

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (G0vdT)

241 "... you can just hang out in the cafeteria and drink."

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: The Chess Club at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (XQo4F)

242 233 Why can't I be called by three names?
*sniff*
Posted by: Elana Kagan at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (XQo4F)

L Ana Kagan?

Elena K Gan?

Dumbass Piece'a Shit?

World's your oyster, lady.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (BjH5D)

243 Hey, I've got a locker too, y'know!
-- Mickey Dolenz

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

244 What is the Carbon footprint of a ship load of evs burning down to the waterline?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (VAINm)

245 234 in other news, that container ship full of cars that was burning off of Alaska finally sank. They landed a recovery crew to try and put the growing fire out, but it finally burned a hole through the hull. Down to Davy Jones Locker.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 10:24 AM (uWKK

T'would take a heart of stone not to laugh.

Posted by: Muy flamable at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (TbWk/)

246 241 "... you can just hang out in the cafeteria and drink."

This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: The Chess Club at June 27, 2025 10:25 AM (XQo4F)

"Stop using the clocks to time your chugging contests!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (BjH5D)

247 244 What is the Carbon footprint of a ship load of evs burning down to the waterline?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (VAINm)

It ain't good

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (VE6XX)

248 My wife missed her return flight and is going to be delayed a day in coming home.
She is going to make my hair turn white.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2025 10:27 AM (D7oie)

249 "What is the Carbon footprint of a ship load of evs burning down to the waterline?"

Ocean doesn't have footprints

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 27, 2025 10:27 AM (a1415)

250 What is the Carbon footprint of a ship load of evs burning down to the waterline?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:26 AM (VAINm)

It is carbon neutral like Chinese coal-fired plants

Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2025 10:27 AM (D7oie)

251 233 Why can't I be called by three names?
*sniff*
Posted by: Elana Kagan

You just need more syllables.

Posted by: Sondra Sotomayor at June 27, 2025 10:27 AM (XQo4F)

252 "What is the Carbon footprint of a ship load of evs burning down to the waterline?
Posted by: Boss Moss "

Or giant burning windmills.

Posted by: Jackie Mackey Paisley Passey at June 27, 2025 10:28 AM (fV+MH)

253 248 My wife missed her return flight and is going to be delayed a day in coming home.
She is going to make my hair turn white.
--------------
So another day of being a Geo Bachelor? Make hay while the sun shines.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:28 AM (FmapG)

254 Pretty much:

Lower courts can apply injunctions for their clients in order to receive relief, and no more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)
****
Courts don't have clients...unless they're leftist justices.

Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2025 10:28 AM (Hxfl9)

255 Wow, that's dedication on the part of an artist...depicting all that stone, yet managing to get the nuances and gradations in the color and texture.

that is quite an achievement!

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 10:28 AM (dCxaZ)

256 My wife missed her return flight and is going to be delayed a day in coming home.
Posted by: Kindltot

So one more party at your place tonight?

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:29 AM (77rzZ)

257 254 Pretty much:

Lower courts can apply injunctions for their clients in order to receive relief, and no more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:14 AM (GBKbO)
****
Courts don't have clients...unless they're leftist justices.
Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2025 10:28 AM (Hxfl9)

====

True. Typo.

Shame!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:29 AM (GBKbO)

258 Cool!
Do they give lessons?
I need lessons!
Posted by: Diogenes

Maybe. But you'd have to go to Michigan.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:23 AM (77rzZ)

No way I can drive that far.
(SWIDT)

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:29 AM (W/lyH)

259 234 in other news, that container ship full of cars that was burning off of Alaska finally sank. They landed a recovery crew to try and put the growing fire out, but it finally burned a hole through the hull. Down to Davy Jones Locker.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Hmmmm. I’m sure all those organic EVs pose no threat to the environment. None at all.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 27, 2025 10:29 AM (UNPQr)

260 My wife missed her return flight and is going to be delayed a day in coming home.
Posted by: Kindltot

Hey sailor.

Posted by: Waitress at the local Hooters restaurant at June 27, 2025 10:30 AM (XQo4F)

261 Langley is an obsessive Richard fangirl who gave up her job to write a screenplay about him; her obsession paid off in the form of an archeological find, but she's got an agenda. Langley and other self-styled "Ricardians," i.e. the members of the Richard III Foundation (formerly known as the Fellowship of the White Boar), are out to prove a point, and they don't look at history through an objective lens. Most of them will claim, for example, that St. Thomas More's negative biography of Richard III was a lie written to flatter Henry VII's son Henry VIII--ignoring the fact that it was never even published during More's lifetime, and ignoring the greater fact that More later lost his head rather than lie to please that same Henry VIII.

Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (1pand)

262 No way I can drive that far.
(SWIDT)
Posted by: Diogenes

I'm glad I was able to tee that joke up for you.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (77rzZ)

263 Ketanji Jackson dissent is flat out stupid. Paul Ryan's sister in law is a blithering idiot

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (pwtJC)

264 Kinda obvious when someone uses talk to text for their comment.

Posted by: Casual observer at June 27, 2025 10:33 AM (XQo4F)

265 263 Ketanji Jackson dissent is flat out stupid. Paul Ryan's sister in law is a blithering idiot
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (pwtJC)

When you look up the definition of DEI hire Jacksons name comes up...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:33 AM (VE6XX)

266 Paul Ryan's sister in law is a blithering idiot
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Well, she married into the Ryan family, so...

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:33 AM (77rzZ)

267 And we are the only country in the world that does.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 10:09 AM (flKEw)

I believe almost every country in the Americas does it. Of course, only the US matters cuz no one is sneaking into Paraguay to have a baby.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:34 AM (ExV1e)

268 Fresh Guinness (an oxymoron) is delicious. Denouncing it is very hipster at this point.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 10:34 AM (rCia8)

269 Why is it preferable to have child slave labor in third world countries strip mining their land for the rare earth minerals needed to make EVs, to coal mining with union American workers in America (providing GOOD MIDDLE CLASS JOBS).

Mining is mining.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 27, 2025 10:34 AM (3B0pS)

270 You don't marry a person.
You marry a family.

Posted by: Ask me how I know at June 27, 2025 10:34 AM (XQo4F)

271 Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (1pand)

What's their motivation for defending Richard? Are they anti-Tudor?

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:34 AM (77rzZ)

272 When you look up the definition of DEI hire Jacksons name comes up...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 27, 2025 10:33 AM (VE6XX)

I absolutely love the fact that Shitpants made a point of crowing about how she was, indeed, a pure DEI hire.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:35 AM (BjH5D)

273 Well, she married into the Ryan family, so...
Posted by: Bulg

I had no idea. Appropriate that she is now related to the last man to lose a debate with Joe Biden.

Posted by: Kratwurst at June 27, 2025 10:35 AM (fcDpY)

274 Learn to coal.

Posted by: The West Virginia Employment Commission at June 27, 2025 10:36 AM (XQo4F)

275 You don't marry a person.
You marry a family.
Posted by: Ask me how I know

Sometimes more than once.
-- the Hatsfields, McCoys, and Hapsburgs

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:37 AM (77rzZ)

276 I don't feel Tudor.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:37 AM (VAINm)

277 Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (1pand)

Please take it up with Langley. I admire Saint Thomas More for his religious convictions. I still think that particular work was a Tudor snow job.
Also, it's no big deal but I can't stand the term "fan girl" for historians. Are there "fan boys" as well?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:37 AM (2GCMq)

278 So another day of being a Geo Bachelor? Make hay while the sun shines.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:28 AM (FmapG)

Five o'clock call to tell me that the airline check in is closed, and a frenzied search online to find out if the flight had been moved or cancelled . . . Her talking about sleeping in the terminal, talk about being on stand-by for tomorrow, and finally me checking that the second leg of the flight had been updated correctly (spoiler, it wasn't)

She is going to make my hair turn white. She is our little agent of Chaos

Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2025 10:37 AM (D7oie)

279 Hawaiian judges can no longer rule outside Hawaii. 🤣🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:38 AM (ORJZB)

280 271 Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:31 AM (1pand)

What's their motivation for defending Richard? Are they anti-Tudor?
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:34 AM (77rzZ)

There's a grab-bag of motivations. Some are medievalists and Catholics who are indeed anti-Tudor, many are contrarians who know you get more attention by trying to upend established historical narratives than you do by supporting them. Some are Romanticist cranks, like the poet and amateur antiquarian Horace Walpole. And, again, many of them, like Langley or Josephine Tey, are women who have an unhealthy fixation with Richard as a tragically misunderstood bad boy who was really a good boy.

Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:38 AM (1pand)

281 I like the hats Tudor women wore.

Like little houses on their heads.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 10:39 AM (fV+MH)

282 Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:11 AM (1pand)

I reject your well-reasoned and compelling argument in favor of the documentary The Black Adder.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 27, 2025 10:17 AM

Chiswick! Fresh horses!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 27, 2025 10:39 AM (kgE5c)

283 249 "What is the Carbon footprint of a ship load of evs burning down to the waterline?"

Ocean doesn't have footprints

sure, it does. the ocean is a desert with its life underground and a perfect disguise above.

Posted by: anachronda at June 27, 2025 10:40 AM (sGtp+)

284 S&P500 is at an all time high right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:40 AM (ORJZB)

285 Josephine Tey, are women who have an unhealthy fixation with Richard as a tragically misunderstood bad boy who was really a good boy.

Sorry; I laughed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:40 AM (2GCMq)

286 I admire Saint Thomas More for his religious convictions. I still think that particular work was a Tudor snow job.
Also, it's no big deal but I can't stand the term "fan girl" for historians. Are there "fan boys" as well?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Fen, when I was in college I read a very interesting book (forget what it was called) that was a dual biography of Cardinal Wolsey and Thomas More. The gist of the book was that, while Wolsey was certainly no saint, he was a more effective statesman than More, the latter of whom was a hypocrite and a phony. It was an interesting read, like I said, but I don't know how accurate it was. Revisionist history can be problematic if you don't know a lot about the period involved.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:41 AM (77rzZ)

287
Infamous Lefty Propagandist Bill Moyers dead at 91

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 27, 2025 10:41 AM (x0n13)

288 Are there "fan boys" as well?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:37 AM

Yes.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:41 AM (jc0TO)

289 284 S&P500 is at an all time high right now.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:40 AM

Still not tired of winning.

Posted by: For those of you keeping score at home at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (XQo4F)

290 Infamous Lefty Propagandist Bill Moyers dead at 91

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 27, 2025 10:41 A

Good thing too.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (jc0TO)

291 sure, it does. the ocean is a desert with its life underground and a perfect disguise above.
-----------------
You need a seahorse with no name to see this.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (FmapG)

292 Fresh Guinness (an oxymoron) is delicious. Denouncing it is very hipster at this point.
Posted by: ...
__________

Then I denounce myself. I drink pretty much exclusively stouts, but I'll take whatever porter is available before ordering a guinness.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (ITkJX)

293 278 She is going to make my hair turn white. She is our little agent of Chaos

agent of kaos > agent of chaos

Posted by: siegfried at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (sGtp+)

294 Seems Starmer really is in on the plan to demolish the UK. The migrant boats now carry the men with their semi-automatic weapons, and he still does fuck all. Invasion is an act of war, assisting is treason. Just like Mayorkas, Starmer needs arrest trial and a speedy brutal sentence.

Posted by: night lifted at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (FZn/N)

295 S&P500 is at an all time high right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:40 AM (ORJZB)

Obviously we can't cut rates then. -- Jerome Powell

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (ExV1e)

296 trying to upend established historical narratives

==

we don't want to do that ! Especially the ones finances by the Tudors, and propagandized by the great engrish writers ! No sir !

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (g47mK)

297 In a funny aside to SCOTUS' ending of universal injunctions, the majority actually cited a Hawaii case in its conclusion.
-----------------------------------
"For good reason, the Court today puts an end to the “increasingly common” practice of federal courts issuing universal injunctions. Hawaii, 585 U. S., at 713 (THOMAS, J.,
concurring). "

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (900v3)

298 286 Also, it's no big deal but I can't stand the term "fan girl" for historians. Are there "fan boys" as well?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Fen, yes -- it's spelled "Fanboi".

Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (V1MWf)

299 I don't think More was a hypocrite and a phony and I also think Wolsey was a fairly good statesman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (2GCMq)

300 It's a very sad subject. People are being held as hostages. Not as prisoners or detainees, but as hostages.

Posted by: m at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (CQE5S)

301 Of course there are fan boys in history. Ask a modern historian about Saladin. Or about Songhai.

And of course, almost every dude who is interested in History is a fanboy about Rome when he is young.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (bss/y)

302 Brian Wilson's cause of death is that he stopped breathing?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (VAINm)

303 Why is it preferable to have child slave labor in third world countries strip mining their land for the rare earth minerals needed to make EVs, to coal mining with union American workers in America (providing GOOD MIDDLE CLASS JOBS).

So the oligarchs can have a higher profit margin. Can't go wasting good money on pay and benefits when you can get slaves.

Posted by: C-suite and multi-million bonuses here I come! at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (TbWk/)

304 Brian Wilson's cause of death is that he stopped breathing?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM

It's usually heart failure.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (jc0TO)

305 At the time everyone called her Tey-Tey.

Posted by: AWFL History buff at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (XQo4F)

306 There aren't many fields of human endeavor as bad as History when it comes to throwing the topic of discussion out the window, slapping your chest, and diving headlong into personal destruction and oblique non-sequiturs.

Philosophers and theologians aren't even as bad as professional historians.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (BjH5D)

307 Fen, yes -- it's spelled "Fanboi".
Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (V1MWf)

Thanks. Is it used for historians or just unbalanced men who are leftists?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (2GCMq)

308 There's a grab-bag of motivations. Some are medievalists and Catholics who are indeed anti-Tudor, many are contrarians who know you get more attention by trying to upend established historical narratives than you do by supporting them. Some are Romanticist cranks, like the poet and amateur antiquarian Horace Walpole. And, again, many of them, like Langley or Josephine Tey, are women who have an unhealthy fixation with Richard as a tragically misunderstood bad boy who was really a good boy.
Posted by: Wiese

Interesting. The "historian" Thomas Costain (more like a writer of good historical fiction posing as a historian) also thought that Richard was innocent of the murders. But the points you raised above about Richard not producing the living princes when it would have been in his interest to do so are good ones. I will have to read more on this topic.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (77rzZ)

309 Philosophers and theologians aren't even as bad as professional historians.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (BjH5D)

Education Majors, when they wake up at 11.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:45 AM (bss/y)

310 90% of what passes for "history" in the modern era is simply a provocative thesis designed to sell books--whether it's Buchanan claiming Churchill, not Hitler, started WW2, Langley claiming Richard III was a good guy, or Hannah Nicole-Jones with her 1619 Project. For what it's worth, Paul Murray Kendall, the pro-Richard III American historian who was a huge influence on Langley, admits that it's hard to come up with anyone other than Richard as the culprit in the Princes' murder: "The most powerful indictment of Richard is the plain and massive fact that the princes disappeared from view after he assumed the throne, and were never reported to have been seen alive. This fact ... weighs heavily against the indications of his innocence."

Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:45 AM (1pand)

311 Then I denounce myself. I drink pretty much exclusively stouts, but I'll take whatever porter is available before ordering a guinness.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (ITkJX)

It's one of my favorite things in the world and I can't drink it without a likely trip to the hospital so I have some personal frustrations I am working out.

It was always very difficult to find it fresh anyway but one pub in Boston had it in the 90's, and wow.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 10:46 AM (rCia8)

312 reading more excerpts form ACB's opinion. Boy, she dunked all over KBJ.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:46 AM (G0vdT)

313 This fact ... weighs heavily against the indications of his innocence."
Posted by: Wiese at June 27, 2025 10:45 AM (1pand)

Motive. Means. Opportunity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:46 AM (bss/y)

314 Are there "fan boys" as well?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Yes. See my comment above about sharing an elevator with Sebastian Gorka.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)

315 King Henry VI died of melancholy and cudgel, but mostly...

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:47 AM (jc0TO)

316 311 Then I denounce myself. I drink pretty much exclusively stouts, but I'll take whatever porter is available before ordering a guinness.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (ITkJX)
----------------
Porters are nice. Stouts are hideous.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:47 AM (FmapG)

317 A pint of plain is yer only man.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2025 10:47 AM (J86+s)

318 Universal injunctions likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has given to federal courts.

'LIKELY?!?!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:48 AM (bss/y)

319 298 Fen, yes -- it's spelled "Fanboi".
Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (V1MWf)

=======

I refer to myself as a Ridley Scott fanboi.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:48 AM (GBKbO)

320 I just signed up for my Medigap.

WHO HOO Im Old

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:48 AM (gbOdA)

321 The Princes did not hang themselves.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:48 AM (77rzZ)

322 *It's usually heart failure.*

Police suspect fair play.

Posted by: Old Dennis Miller at June 27, 2025 10:49 AM (XQo4F)

323 Yes. See my comment above about sharing an elevator with Sebastian Gorka.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)

Goulash farts?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:49 AM (gbOdA)

324 I like the hats Tudor women wore.

Festive little hats!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2025 10:49 AM (J86+s)

325 So the ruling isn’t as good as it appears. States can still get nationwide injunctions. So NY state or California sues, they can still get it. Which they will do with everything Trump does.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (ORJZB)

326 320 I just signed up for my Medigap.

WHO HOO Im Old
---------------
Both my wife and I signed up with COSTCO.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (FmapG)

327 IIRC the ship wasn't full of EVs, it was carrying less than 100. The rest were hybrids or ICE. But that just goes to show that they're unsafe at any number. They should be banned from parking garages, too.

Posted by: Farquad at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (YkGND)

328 318 Universal injunctions likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has given to federal courts.

it's a narrow ruling but GOOD NEWS

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (Pv3Rg)

329 Tater tots! Stelter implies the purpose of the "news" is not to provide information but rather to send a message.

Brian Stelter@brianstelter
Last night at the News Emmys, the judges wanted to send a message of support to CBS News and "60 Minutes" amid Trump's ongoing legal battle with the news division. CBS took home five Emmys total, the most of any network, including three for "60 Minutes" reports.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl)

330 Buchanan claiming Churchill, not Hitler, started WW2

Buchanan is an idiot. WW2 was started by Larry Fitzpatrick of 121 Chestnut Corner, London. Everyone knows that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (ExV1e)

331 OK there is a lot to digest with this SCOTUS dump

people smarter than me will explain it

but I like the smack-down on lower court injunctions

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (AOsQT)

332 Porters are nice. Stouts are hideous.
Posted by: pudinhead
_______

There are so many stouts out there that I guarantee you could find several you'd like. From sickly sweet pastry stouts, to bitterness off the charts.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (ITkJX)

333 If your lungs stop before your heart does that make you choke up that milky looking stuff?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (VAINm)

334 Both my wife and I signed up with COSTCO.
Posted by: pudinhead

That's not an olds thing. We've been signed up with CostCo since our son was small.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (77rzZ)

335 it's a narrow ruling but GOOD NEWS
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (Pv3Rg)

It is, I am just miffed at the 'Likely'. You fucking think?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (bss/y)

336 'LIKELY?!?!'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:48 AM (bss/y)

They brought out the big guns. Just be happy they didn't cite the More Often Than Not Clause.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (rCia8)

337 @JonathanTurley
...We have our fourth opinion. It is Mahmoud v. Taylor, by Justice Alito. Huge 6-3victory for parental rights over the ability to withdraw their children from LGBTQ lessons.

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (AOsQT)

338 The crematorium ended all doubts.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (W/lyH)

339 Both my wife and I signed up with COSTCO.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (FmapG)

I quit costmuch as when I was there I always needed a new printer tablet screen ice chest side of beeve hogs head of olive oil.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:52 AM (gbOdA)

340 So does this mean no more birthright citizenship?

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 27, 2025 10:52 AM (6LBk0)

341 Buchanan is an idiot. WW2 was started by Larry Fitzpatrick of 121 Chestnut Corner, London. Everyone knows that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (ExV1e)

He just wanted to see the neighbor's wife's boobs- how did he know it would lead to that?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 27, 2025 10:52 AM (bss/y)

342 So the ruling isn’t as good as it appears. States can still get nationwide injunctions. So NY state or California sues, they can still get it. Which they will do with everything Trump does.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (ORJZB)

Which means they'll rule that it has to actually affect the state and not just people in the state. Delay achieved.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:52 AM (ExV1e)

343 So private lawsuits no nationwide injunctions.

State governments can still get them

Like usual scotus can’t go all in on an issue and half asses it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:52 AM (ORJZB)

344 >>So the ruling isn’t as good as it appears. States can still get nationwide injunctions. So NY state or California sues, they can still get it. Which they will do with everything Trump does.

How exactly would that work? Since when can a state law bind the entire country?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (viF8m)

345 Brian Stelter@brianstelter
Last night at the News Emmys, the judges wanted to send a message of support to CBS News and "60 Minutes" amid Trump's ongoing legal battle with the news division. CBS took home five Emmys total, the most of any network, including three for "60 Minutes" reports.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl)

Oh, isn't he just adorable.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (BjH5D)

346 107 What kind of Cob posts this depressing painting leading off a summer weekend?
Posted by: Browbeaten Barry at June 27, 2025 09:51 AM (G5+As)

French-Adjacent.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 27, 2025 09:52 AM (xTinh)

hahahahaha

Posted by: m at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (CQE5S)

347 Both my wife and I signed up with COSTCO.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (FmapG)

Costco has medigap insurance?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (ExV1e)

348 And even though taste can't be argued, every single one of the community beer rating sites will have six or seven stouts in their top ten.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (ITkJX)

349 Remember the #10 cans of pudding for 3 or 4 dollars?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (VAINm)

350 If your lungs stop before your heart does that make you choke up that milky looking stuff?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (VAINm)

If you are asking for a friend, better call 911.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (W/lyH)

351 did they ever find the bodies, that was josephine tey's argument,

shakespeare and everyone else was going by merton, a tudor propagandist,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (bXbFr)

352 Which means they'll rule that it has to actually affect the state and not just people in the state. Delay achieved.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:52 AM (ExV1e)

You’re talking g about Hawaiian judges. They’ll rule on whatever they want and still issue the injunction action.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (ORJZB)

353 did we win or not

this is why I didn't go to law school

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 10:54 AM (AOsQT)

354 yeah tater it dont mean jack squat

Posted by: miguel cervantes at June 27, 2025 10:54 AM (bXbFr)

355 You’re talking g about Hawaiian judges. They’ll rule on whatever they want and still issue the injunction action.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM

The question will be how the Appellate Courts take this decision.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (jc0TO)

356 334 Both my wife and I signed up with COSTCO.
Posted by: pudinhead
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That's not an olds thing. We've been signed up with CostCo since our son was small.
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Precisely what the wife said - we should have done this years ago. The down side is Imma looking at an even bigger big screen than I currently have. The only draw back is pretty much anything on TeeVee sucks Donkey Dicks.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (FmapG)

357 I await Justice Thomas' concurrence on the injunction thing

should be a good'un

screw Roberts

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (Pv3Rg)

358 SCOTUS allows parents to opt out their kids from LBGQT instruction.

The libs are having a bad day.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (G0vdT)

359 Last night at the News Emmys, the judges wanted to send a message of support to CBS News and "60 Minutes" amid Trump's
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This means so much to me, thank you!!!

Posted by: The News Emmys' Mother at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (rCia8)

360 @disclosetv
·
2m
JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court rules parents can pull children from public school lessons that use LGBTQ storybooks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (mlg/3)

361 307 Fen, yes -- it's spelled "Fanboi".
Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2025 10:43 AM (V1MWf)
Thanks. Is it used for historians or just unbalanced men who are leftists?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 10:44 AM (2GCMq)

Yes. Both "fanboi" and "fangirl" (or "fangrrl") are used to describe those whose fandom for something has warped into a narrow viewpoint that excludes all others verging on obsession. See also "White Knight" and "Simp".

Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (V1MWf)

362 Dramatic video.

https://is.gd/vDmXqw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (L/fGl)

363 353 did we win or not

lol it's not a game my man!

but it's a helpful ruling

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (Pv3Rg)

364 If your lungs stop before your heart does that make you choke up that milky looking stuff?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:51 AM (VAINm)

Only if you're an android.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (g8Ew8)

365 Precisely what the wife said - we should have done this years ago. The down side is Imma looking at an even bigger big screen than I currently have. The only draw back is pretty much anything on TeeVee sucks Donkey Dicks.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (FmapG)

That's what game consoles are for.

Posted by: Better than streaming! at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (TbWk/)

366 JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court rules parents can pull children from public school lessons that use LGBTQ storybooks.

LOVE IT!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (Pv3Rg)

367 Precisely what the wife said - we should have done this years ago. The down side is Imma looking at an even bigger big screen than I currently have. The only draw back is pretty much anything on TeeVee sucks Donkey Dicks.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (FmapG)

I turn on my TV maybe once per month. That really helps you when you're walking past the new models.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (ExV1e)

368 @FDRLST
·
50s
Supreme Court Nukes Nationwide Injunctions Against Trump’s Birthright Citizenship Order

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (mlg/3)

369 How exactly would that work? Since when can a state law bind the entire country?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 10:53 AM (viF8m)

It’s not a state law. It’s if the state brings a lawsuit against Trump. California makes up some reason they’ll be hurt if Trump does X. A judge can say yep, this will hurt Cali. I’m issuing a nationwide stop to X. Because if Nevada does X Cali will still potentially be hurt.

That’s the genius of the Roberts court. Even when we win we lose.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (ORJZB)

370 Last night at the News Emmys, the judges wanted to send a message of support to CBS News and "60 Minutes" amid Trump's ongoing legal battle with the news division. CBS took home five Emmys total, the most of any network, including three for "60 Minutes" reports.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl)

***

So it didn't matter if others were better, it was all about the message.
Didn't Marshall McLuhan write about that?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:56 AM (W/lyH)

371 2m
JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court rules parents can pull children from public school lessons that use LGBTQ storybooks.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

It's a sad commentary on our times that the highest court in the land even has to rule on this issue.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 10:57 AM (77rzZ)

372 thanks to CostCo (and no thanks to freaking Samsung) I finally have a working dryer

also fantastic for glasses/contacts

and prescriptions

basically it rocks!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:57 AM (Pv3Rg)

373 As bad as SC is, imagine if Trump had never come along and Hildebeast had appointed three more demented commies.

It's not even worth thinking about. Not to mention the cases that would have come before it. We would be lucky to still have private property.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 10:57 AM (rCia8)

374 Has Judge Kamehameha spoken on this?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:57 AM (VAINm)

375 Bill Moyers, Presidential Aide and Veteran of Public TV, Dies at 91

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 27, 2025 10:57 AM (gbOdA)

376 357 I await Justice Thomas' concurrence on the injunction thing

should be a good'un

screw Roberts
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (Pv3Rg)

======

They're all released at once. Only concurrences are by Alito and Kavanaugh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:57 AM (GBKbO)

377 2m
JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court rules parents can pull children from public school lessons that use LGBTQ storybooks.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (mlg/3)

See Dick.
See James.
See Dick's dick.
See James' dick.
See Dick blow James.
Blow dick, Dick. Blow.

Posted by: Gonna be in first grade if not already at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM (TbWk/)

378 Nobody watches TV anymore.

Posted by: Welcome to streaming at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM (XQo4F)

379 Bill Moyers

Well
Bye

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM (VVnrT)

380 The question will be how the Appellate Courts take this decision.
Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (jc0TO)

Well yeah that was always the case. But I’m saying the win isn’t really much of a win because it has a giant loophole in it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM (ORJZB)

381 They're all released at once. Only concurrences are by Alito and Kavanaugh.

ah then I should stop waiting lol

is Alito's worth reading? (if you've read it TJM)

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM (Pv3Rg)

382 Go long on Mexipult futures.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 10:59 AM (VAINm)

383 381 They're all released at once. Only concurrences are by Alito and Kavanaugh.

ah then I should stop waiting lol

is Alito's worth reading? (if you've read it TJM)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM (Pv3Rg)

======

*points to self*

Illiterate asshole here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

384 It's a sad commentary on our times that the highest court in the land even has to rule on this issue.
Posted by: Bulg

Yeah, but at this late date, we're holding on to whatever we can for our kids.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 10:59 AM (mlg/3)

385 Dramatic video.

https://is.gd/vDmXqw
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 10:55 AM (L/fGl)

***

Well! What happened?
Don't leave us hanging!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 10:59 AM (W/lyH)

386 >>JUST IN - U.S. Supreme Court rules parents can pull children from public school lessons that use LGBTQ storybooks.

Nice.

Of course, it's been integrated into every lesson, as has DEI, so good luck trying to opt out.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 10:59 AM (VVnrT)

387 372 thanks to CostCo (and no thanks to freaking Samsung) I finally have a working dryer

also fantastic for glasses/contacts

and prescriptions

basically it rocks!

What about me?

Posted by: The Costco Gas Station at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (XQo4F)

388 Today is going to be absolutely wild.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (t/2Uw)

389 Oh wait, there is a Thomas concurring.

Again, illiterate.

And asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

390 "Dramatic video.

https://is.gd/vDmXqw
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks"

That looked like it smarted.

Truck driver was probably texting.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (fV+MH)

391 We all remember those crazy limeys chanting, "Heil Churchill."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (L/fGl)

392 But I’m saying the win isn’t really much of a win because it has a giant loophole in it.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 10:58 AM

All the law is a loophole, I think but, if the Circuit courts slap down each DC ruling in a couple of days it will suffice.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (jc0TO)

393 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

Come on, man.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (rCia8)

394 >>lol it's not a game my man!

>>but it's a helpful ruling

Gotta disagree with you. The left has been playing a game with the courts to try and stop Trump's agenda. The SC just smacked them down hard and also took a big shot at Jackson.

Her dissent was so retarded Barret opened up a can of whoop ass on her which was just the cherry on top.

Trump is doing a victory lap on social media right now, not just for the win on nationwide injunctions but also on birthright citizenship, and to the chagrin of the haters giving big props to Bondi.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (viF8m)

395 Things I have learned at the HQ… me not opining on legal issues… I know nothing about how the system works…

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:01 AM (PCK5/)

396 It's a sad commentary on our times that the highest court in the land even has to rule on this issue.
Posted by: Bulg

And that passing ruffians can say "Ni" at will to old ladies.

Posted by: There is a pestilence upon this land! at June 27, 2025 11:01 AM (TbWk/)

397 "Today is going to be absolutely wild.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)"

Could be a goodn.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 11:02 AM (fV+MH)

398 SCOTUS upholds fees we all pay for cell service in order to give welfare recipients free phones and internet. Obama phones upheld by scotus essentially.

Yeay conservative court!!!. lol

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:02 AM (ORJZB)

399 It is a tax..

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:03 AM (PCK5/)

400 Well...maybe I'm being a little harsh on the definitions of "fanboi/grrl". It's not always the extreme pejorative, as it can also be used to describe someone who is an "extreme" fan of something/someone, but I'm in "get offa my lawn mode" these days, so....

Full disclosure -- I'm a "fanboi" of several things, so I denounce myself.

Posted by: goozer at June 27, 2025 11:03 AM (V1MWf)

401 artificially intelligent nood

Posted by: anachronda at June 27, 2025 11:03 AM (sGtp+)

402 I can still fund divershitty phones?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (VAINm)

403 When did the nation's courts all agree to adhere to the Whiniest Bitch theory of jurisprudence?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (BjH5D)

404 Trump is holding a presser at 11:30. It appears he thinks we had a major victory at the SC today.

Cause we did.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (viF8m)

405 Well said JackStraw, well said.

Posted by: mpfs. Scott Bessent fan grrllll at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (rOBg+)

406 Obviously we can't cut rates then. -- Jerome Powell
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 10:42 AM (ExV1e)

You know how we reverse inflation? The tool the FED has is to keep rates high. You LIKE $15 Big Macs?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM (D7oie)

407 The NYT wonders why men don't read novels. Well, the vast majority of novels published today are written by women and the vast majority of those suck donkey dongs.

https://is.gd/coJdQc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM (L/fGl)

408 I think I would just use the word "fan" but to each fan, fangirl or fanboy their own.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (2GCMq)

409 Things I have learned at the HQ… me not opining on legal issues… I know nothing about how the system works…
Posted by: tubal

Wait. The system works?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (L/fGl)

410 408- That was supposed to be on the previous thread. Sorry!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 11:14 AM (2GCMq)

411
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM

I can recall the last modern novel I read by either a man or a woman. I tend to read things I enjoyed before that are from the 1700 's to the early 1900s
Someone would have to pay me immense sums of money to read "The Handmaid's Tale."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 11:20 AM (2GCMq)

412 "there's a hole in the floor, lower left corner"
and the bouquet emanating henceforth is exquisite.

Posted by: cmeat at June 27, 2025 01:14 PM (GAyiy)

413 Might A.I. do to Universities What Gutenberg did to Monasteries?
But but but only when they speak fluently in Latin, use roman numerals and disclaim algebra as heathen. Then, MAYBE. Maybe Not.

Posted by: raymota at June 27, 2025 02:35 PM (3+riX)

414 This image is from the waiting room to appeal one's case before the Autarch.

Posted by: Ronzoni at June 27, 2025 04:02 PM (ZDUTO)

415 He want to hear a Scary Story

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 27, 2025 06:30 PM (wGqjj)

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