Gun Thread: Post-NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition!

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Holy Balls O' Poo! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the 2025 Post NoVAMoMe Discussion and Analysis Edition??? Please consider this an open thread to discuss your NoVAMoMe experience, or really any other MoMe for that matter. Who knows, you may help a scairdy-cat lurker throw caution to the wind and commit to attending one!

NoVAMoMe Update
A bigly big thank you to all those who attended the 2025 NoVAMoMe! It is always so much fun to see our online pals and make some new freshly de-lurking friends as well! The weather was perfect and as far as I could tell everyone had a great time visiting one another. My bestest blog buddy, organizer and generally nice person extraordinaire bluebell and I thank everyone for attending. Hopefully those who were there will inspire others to join the fun at a MoMe near them!

Have I said it's fun?

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Do our Air Force pilots and Naval Aviators focus on fundamentals? Evidently they do!

Above, an Air Force Northrop B-2 Spirit Ass-Kicker

The GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)

Q: Weasel, what do we get when we put the two together?
A: Instant hole!

A hearty thank you and job well done to the men and women of the United States Armed Forces!

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Smith & Wesson Revolver Madness!

In the market for a used Smith & Wesson?

Now that you have it, let's take it apart and see what's inside while it's in pieces!

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Hickok45

Q: Weasel, what does Hickok45 do with every new gun?
A: I'm glad you asked.

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The Hell is That?

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Our Pal The Mergenthaler Linotype Linotron 505!

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Highway Patrol
1955 Season 1 Episode 1!!

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Night of the Blood Beast!

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Musical Interlude
Here is Leo with Dance Monkey

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
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Palmetto State Armory
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Target Sports USA
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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 07:03 PM (e5NfL)

2 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at June 22, 2025 07:05 PM (gf6+f)

3 Weasel, I was hoping for a cjgar review about your latest cigar.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:06 PM (ZIggv)

4 Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:06 PM (ZIggv)
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Not this week!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 07:07 PM (1HXVD)

5 I was very impressed that many of you Morons can ring steel at a 1,000 yards.

Trump must be a MAGA Moron ... since he can ring steel at 6,000 miles!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)

6 I made top ten??? Where is everybody?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 22, 2025 07:09 PM (pSHcJ)

7 I see the Bunker Buster made a big hole and just missed the visitors center! That was close!
Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!

Posted by: DBCooper at June 22, 2025 07:09 PM (iZBfk)

8 The best time to bomb the mullahs was 45 years ago. The second best time is now.

Posted by: Dolly the Llama at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (Cg/f3)

9 Sorry, but Dance Monkey is a terrible song. It somehow got internationally popular because the original singer sang it like she was drunk and constipated. A pure novelty song. Like of a rock band decided to write a song where the lyrics were all in farts.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (WbzKK)

10 Oh, I feel like such a rookie!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (pkbiv)

11 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (yMdDU)

12 Darn. Not first.
Range report. Grandson #1 is graduating soft air next Saturday and moving to the crossman model 1322. He has shown very good progress in handling and my yard set up range/ safety classes. So off to the sticks we go to shoot some soda cans. Probably going to take the walther .22 with us and let him try that too.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (LgDgc)

13 Weasel, does it have a really neat band on it ?

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:10 PM (ZIggv)

14 I was very impressed that many of you Morons can ring steel at a 1,000 yards.

Trump must be a MAGA Moron ... since he can ring steel at 6,000 miles!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Ha! That's funny....how are you brother? You and Gigi are coming to TX in Oct, right?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

15 We didn't attend the MoMe again this year. We had too much going on to make the drive. Hope everyone had a good time. I will say I am surprised about how the government is releasing so many details on the strike. Keeping your mouth shut would be the better choice. There is no reason to provide intel to the Iranians.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 22, 2025 07:13 PM (YcfMX)

16 Anything burning tonight Weasel?

Rocky Patel Sun Grown here.

Wonder if the B-2 crews or General Kurilla are burning one to mark the occasion.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 07:14 PM (1m82a)

17 Howdy Grateful!

We are planning on coming to Texas to see y'all good folks, but have one possible monkey wrench.

I am also working on the job search front, which is a strange environment compared to how it worked 40 years ago!

Good thing I am only 29!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM (HlyYF)

18 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM (WbzKK)

19 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 07:17 PM (BCwQW)

20 Elric, that’s a rather, um, memorable review.

And dain-bramaged memory serves, I think Weasel favorably reviewed that very stick here many moons ago.

Heh.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 07:18 PM (0/ySy)

21 Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM (RoO7G)

22 I will say I am surprised about how the government is releasing so many details on the strike. Keeping your mouth shut would be the better choice. There is no reason to provide intel to the Iranians.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at June 22, 2025 07:13 PM

Agreed.

OTOH, I wouldn't trust much of the operational details if I were a rival power.

Supposedly the payload of the B2 is 40,000 lbs, but we dropped 12 30,000 lb MOPs with 6 planes.

I know there is not supposed to be any math on this smart military blog, but even I can do that math!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM (HlyYF)

23 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

Had one a few years back and been meaning to get more.

Are you saying it's gone down a bit?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM (/lPRQ)

24 17 I am also working on the job search front, which is a strange environment compared to how it worked 40 years ago!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM
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If a recommendation letter from a dinosaur would help the cause, let me know.

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

25 I went to the range this week.

TWICE.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM (RoO7G)

26 Pillage Idiot, I just sent you a text.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:22 PM (ZIggv)

27 Elric, that’s a rather, um, memorable review.

And dain-bramaged memory serves, I think Weasel favorably reviewed that very stick here many moons ago.

Heh.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 07:18 PM (0/ySy)
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Really? I thought it was terrible. I could barely get it to light and stay lit. And I tried 3 different sticks from the same sampler. I threw the rest out. I guess it’s possible I got a very bad batch.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:22 PM (WbzKK)

28 Good evening Horde. Thanks Weasel!

Good to see morons this weekend. You'll all crazy (not that there's anything wrong with that).

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2025 07:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

29 Top 30?
Had a mandatory Range safety refresher on Saturday, due to some really interesting stuff that’s shown up on the security system there during the past year. Very worthwhile hour.

Hope everyone had a great weekend and thanks Weasel for your efforts on our behalf.

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (vt7xw)

30 Off topic but I think Chuckles Schumer looks like Montgomery Burns from The Simpsons.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (kTd/k)

31 Finally back to the range this week after more than two months, due to life....Was surprised how quickly I was able to fall into the rhythm...thanks to a wise & generous woman, I have been working with a hand grip, which made a huge difference in avoiding those shots that hit to the lower right (I am a lefty)...any other shots that didn't go where they were supposed to were quickly identified and addressed using those fundamentals rules, with good results. I really need to find a range in Pittsburgh....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 non-Hillary-Hole S&Ws >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hillary-Hole S&Ws.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (0sNs1)

33 If a recommendation letter from a dinosaur would help the cause, let me know.

Posted by: TRex at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM

Thanks!

Since they are contemplating hiring a dinosaur, I would assume a recommendation from an actual dinosaur would carry additional weight.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

34 Elric, that’s a rather, um, memorable review.

And dain-bramaged memory serves, I think Weasel favorably reviewed that very stick here many moons ago.

Heh.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Yes, I believe puros and blends have good years and bad.
At least with blends they can try for consistency.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 07:26 PM (/lPRQ)

35 Pillage Idiot, answer your phone.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:27 PM (ZIggv)

36 On Juneteenth I celebrated the end of chattel slavery in the US (thanks to the Republicans!) by shooting with TRex and Grateful. It was a mostly Sig show. P365 XL, Macro, and 2 P226's.

And an Extar EP9 which is not a Sig.

Shot lots that day. I was trying to get rid of the green coated reman ammo and I got pretty close to taking that totally out of inventory.

And also learned the following - some people are incompatible with dots. It's a vision thing.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:28 PM (RoO7G)

37 I went to the range this week.

TWICE.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:21 PM

With no mention of any focus on fundamentals, this may be subtractive in your Mid-Year Commentator Review, which Ace and the CoBs are currently working feverishly on.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:28 PM (0sNs1)

38 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 22, 2025 07:28 PM (sAmhv)

39 And also got to enjoy another NoVAMoMe...It is hard to describe to those who have not attended one, but I'll try. You get to meet people you know and catch up on everything since the last time you saw them...you get to meet and talk to people who post but whom you've never met...and you get to meet people who read but don't comment - and encourage them to jump in the comments.
As usual, it was a delightful afternoon of conversations, jokes, food, beverages, cigars (for those that do), planning for TX, celebrating major life events, and getting an opportunity to be a part of Club ONT that night. Aside from all of that, it is deeply rewarding to break bread with this family, and I am very "grateful" to be able to do it in NoVa, TX, and where ever we travel and can meet up with local Horde members. Thank you Ben Had for starting this tradition.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:31 PM (IQ6Gq)

40 You guys actually get together in person and not wear disguises?

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:32 PM (WbzKK)

41 Supposedly the payload of the B2 is 40,000 lbs, but we dropped 12 30,000 lb MOPs with 6 planes.

I know there is not supposed to be any math on this smart military blog, but even I can do that math!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM

It is known that a B2 can carry 2 GBU-57 A/Bs.

It should be noted that -57 is the model designation for S&Ws chambered in the best handgun caliber ever, the .41 Magnum.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:33 PM (0sNs1)

42 Creature from Galaxy 27 returns!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 22, 2025 07:34 PM (63Dwl)

43

*tears Moron In Good Standing membership card*

I had the opportunity to acquire new "shoes" as Smash calls them, for my armory.

i spent it on a 40w laser to make intricate rocket parts, puzzles, and clock innerds.

i'll do better. Pinky swearsies.

Posted by: Hector Salamonca at June 22, 2025 07:34 PM (7UGcC)

44 So, it sounds like the The Mergenthaler Linotype Linotron 505 might be considered a primitive electro-optical, electro-mechanical physical markup language.

I wonder if Donald Knuth had ever seen one before he invented TeX? As I recall, frustration with the typesetting of one of his books was what inspired him to go down the rabbit hole of inventing TeX and it's descendants.

(Sorry for going off-topic, but it's Weasel's fault for linking that video).

Posted by: a.moron at June 22, 2025 07:35 PM (Yt3ED)

45 Supposedly the payload of the B2 is 40,000 lbs, but we dropped 12 30,000 lb MOPs with 6 planes.

I know there is not supposed to be any math on this smart military blog, but even I can do that math!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 07:20 PM

There were seven B-2's that went into iran from the reports I have seen.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 22, 2025 07:35 PM (e5NfL)

46 31: not sure about Pittsburgh but gun ranges in PA is fairly common. Might need to check outside Allegheny County. It's pretty 'blue'.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 22, 2025 07:36 PM (sAmhv)

47 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM

Lacks specific and important details, e.g. what breed of dog?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:36 PM (0sNs1)

48 I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM

Lacks specific and important details, e.g. what breed of dog?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 07:36 PM (0sNs1)
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Whoopie Goldberg

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:38 PM (WbzKK)

49 not sure about Pittsburgh but gun ranges in PA is fairly common. Might need to check outside Allegheny County. It's pretty 'blue'.
Posted by: Puddleglum
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Where do yinz go in Washington Co?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 07:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

50 Posted by: Hector Salamonca

how freaking olde is that sock?

Posted by: BifBewalski at June 22, 2025 07:39 PM (7UGcC)

51 Evening all.
Well, I missed the Sunday post MoMe range date because I was feeling a bit punky but in my defense, I believe it is the first time that has happened.
The MoMe was terrific. A bit smaller but that made for more conversation. Think I recruited a few locals to come and check out where we shoot and to join us sometime. (If I didn't get your contact info, email me).
Thank you Weasel and Bluebell for making this happen. ❤️

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 22, 2025 07:40 PM (t/2Uw)

52 Thanks for the gun thread, Weasel.
Jaws on TV. A few Garand sightings.

Posted by: scampydog at June 22, 2025 07:40 PM (41CYW)

53 Today the post MoMe shooting involved a smaller detachment. TRex and myself and Ed L. led an intrepid band of morons and moronabees (okay, it was RMBS, his mom, and the spouse of a lurker) and there was BLOOD.

A little slide bite. I carry a first aid kit to range day so it was survivable.

Also, I took my PSA Dagger which I have not shot in a while. I had that (with a cheapie green dot) and my Legion P226 with its Sig Romeo 1 Pro red dot.

I shoot the Dagger WAY better than the P226 which is annoying as the Sig is more than 4x the cost of the Dagger.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (RoO7G)

54 Well, I had to miss the NoVaMoMe this year, and was really bummed about that - especially the DMVMGC time.

But I *did* get to the range on Saturday. The activity on Saturday (that kept me from NoVaMoMe) got cancelled (for sad reasons), and I said "Screw it" to all the things I could have used that time for and went to the big First Day of Summer event at the range/gun store. They had Kimber, Glock, S&W, and Staccato reps there, along with a silencer guy, a local holster company, and some guy with bags. And free range time (didn't matter for me, as my range time is free anyway). But lots of people there with newbies, guy next to me with a full-auto, belt-fed 5.56 (maybe he checked it out of the Navy gun locker and brought it down to train the other guy). (It might have been 7.62, too.)

I was working on some bits using fundamentals. I did a little just-above-the-belt point-shooting. And then bringing it up to my eye level to see how close I was to natural aimpoint. A lot of 1-hand shooting.

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (PkFyV)

55 Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:43 PM (xcxpd)

56 49: Sorry, I don't know. Grew up in Lawrence county. Live in NoVA now. Still got family and friends up there. Visit at least once a year. Pretty sure there's a few of them in Washington County.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 22, 2025 07:46 PM (sAmhv)

57 Range report, once again starring the Glock 26 (G30 is benched again until I can get a new recoil spring).
The G26 continues to impress me. I thought the grip was too short but the 12 round magazines (The Magpul one is slightly better for me) give me a full grip on the pistol. I just have to watch reloading or I'll get some skin pinch.

I'm shooting 147 gr rounds almost exclusively now and out of the 3" barrel of the G26, the recoil is surprisingly mild. Maybe it's the double spring design, not sure, but it works.

Accuracy is more than fine, draw + fire drills are good at both 7 and 10 yards. And my Don Hume IWB holster is here and I'm breaking it in. The G26 is officially my Summer carry, along with my PSA Micro Dagger.

Good stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:46 PM (xcxpd)

58 Also, I took my PSA Dagger which I have not shot in a while. I had that (with a cheapie green dot) and my Legion P226 with its Sig Romeo 1 Pro red dot.

I shoot the Dagger WAY better than the P226 which is annoying as the Sig is more than 4x the cost of the Dagger.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (RoO7G)

The Ergonomics of the PSA Dagger are surprisingly good. And at the price, I can't think of a better 'starter' gun. Buy two.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:47 PM (xcxpd)

59 Grateful, the MoMe was in existence long before our Texas adventure. CBD hosted several before us Southerners ever caught up.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:48 PM (ZIggv)

60 What did I learn?

Aside from needing more range time, that is? I need to clean and function check my carry weapon. I need to get a SOLID grip on the gun early if I'm going to expect to not have any problems point-shooting early out of the holster.

I need to figure out the proper seating of my hands on the 9mm for a proper pointing grip. I still like shooting the .45 more than the 9mm, and I'm better at it.

And, when I finished off with the .22, I was really anticipating the shot. I have to work on that.

I also learned I need to win a lottery game so I can buy a couple of Kimbers and the S&W .357 revolver. (I still want the Python 2020, but that S&W was really nice trigger pull.)

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2025 07:48 PM (PkFyV)

61 For RMBS and RMBS Mom: I assume you were here for the NoVa MoMe, since I saw you today at church. I was sitting in back and saw you a few pews up. Wanted to catch you and say hi at coffee hour, but our mutual EF said you had to rush off. I’m sorry to have missed you!

Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM (lw6gg)

62 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM (RoO7G)

RMBS and lurker spouse tried the H&K CC9 with one or two magazines each. Definitely not a newbie's gun.

RMBS, lurker spouse, and RMBS mom shot the .32 ACP Walther PPK/S SD w/ a suppressor. With a little more practice, RMBS mom might qualify for her 00 number. RMBS thinks this should make the trip to TX.

Almost everyone fired five rounds from the H&K MR556A4 SBR (11" barrel). BIG muzzle flash and loud muzzle blast with every round.

RMBS and lurker spouse tried out the MP5 at 15 yards. An OK showing for the first time w/ an SMG.

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM (BCwQW)

63 I've seen a number of comments on the unexpected success of the OPSEC regarding last night's raid. I think I've discovered the secret.

ILRedAlert@ILRedAlert
CNN reports that top Democrats on intelligence committees were not briefed on the strikes, while Republicans were.

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Geez! They're treasonous scum for a few decades and, right away, Trump doesn't want to share military secrets with them!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Master of the Mundane at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM (L/fGl)

64 That’s all you need to go know.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:16 PM (WbzKK)

So you're saying it's bad?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 22, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

65 Looking to buy a
Athlon Optics Rangecraft Velocity Pro Radar Chronograph
because some Moron mentioned it here a couple weeks back.

Most places out of stock now, but the rest all even at $400.
The Garmin original is still going for $600.

Been trying to get vet discount but the the one place I know is glitching out so I think I'll just bite the bullet and forgo the 5-10% discount.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 22, 2025 07:53 PM (/lPRQ)

66 And at the price, I can't think of a better 'starter' gun. Buy two.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 07:47 PM (xcxpd)

Who do you think you are talking to?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:53 PM (RoO7G)

67 You guys actually get together in person and not wear disguises?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:32 PM (WbzKK)

Where did it say there were no disguises?

Posted by: GWB at June 22, 2025 07:54 PM (PkFyV)

68 Today the post MoMe shooting involved a smaller detachment. TRex and myself and Ed L. led an intrepid band of morons and moronabees (okay, it was RMBS, his mom, and the spouse of a lurker) and there was BLOOD.

A little slide bite. I carry a first aid kit to range day so it was survivable.

Also, I took my PSA Dagger which I have not shot in a while. I had that (with a cheapie green dot) and my Legion P226 with its Sig Romeo 1 Pro red dot.

I shoot the Dagger WAY better than the P226 which is annoying as the Sig is more than 4x the cost of the Dagger.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 07:42 PM

And a special thanks to Ed L. for letting us all play with some of his more interesting toys!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 07:54 PM (yMdDU)

69 Elric, we do and it'sthe best time ever. We shoot, drink, eat amazing food, laugh, dance and enjoy life.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 22, 2025 07:57 PM (ZIggv)

70 Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 07:51 PM

LadyS! I didn't see you in back. Unfortunately we did have to run. It would have been great to catch up. The obvious solution is to come to TxMoMe X this year!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 07:59 PM (yMdDU)

71 Just had a new job listing pop up on my Indeed.

Wanted: Geological engineer. Ability to move mountains. Very high compensation package due to recent lack of availability of local experts.

Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:02 PM (HlyYF)

72 One interesting gun at range duty day last week.

LWRC 45ACP carbine. Not feather-light, but as a result recoil is minimal. Guy had the red dot zeroed very well, so pick it up, couple of quick shots at a steel plate about 35 yards away - ping, ping, ping. These PCCs are just the easiest platforms evah.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 22, 2025 08:04 PM (0/ySy)

73 Sunday night pet thread!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 08:05 PM (zbt+s)

74 blaster and RMBS,

Of course there was blood!

I thought the PSA Dagger had to be blooded every time before it was returned to the range bag or it would cease to function. It's right there in the name!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:05 PM (HlyYF)

75 Hash check

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (+mPER)

76 In case some of you are not tuned in to current events, buy guns. And ammo. And load some magazines.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

77 I thought the PSA Dagger had to be blooded every time before it was returned to the range bag or it would cease to function. It's right there in the name!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:05 PM (HlyYF)

The Dagger did do the bite, so you are correct sir!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:08 PM (RoO7G)

78 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?

Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (cl9qq)

79 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

+1

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (BCwQW)

80 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Brother, that would be one long commute to the TXMoMe....and not a legitimate excuse not to attend said MoMe....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (IQ6Gq)

81 Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 22, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

And seriously, start reloading. It's fun, and my ammo stockpile just keeps getting larger.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 22, 2025 08:10 PM (pSHcJ)

82 59 Grateful, the MoMe was in existence long before our Texas adventure. CBD hosted several before us Southerners ever caught up.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Sorry Ben Had, the signal is not coming in clearly.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

83 78 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?
Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (cl9qq)

An AR 15, because I bought several before the law changed.

Some states, the Mini-14 is a good alternatives (if you get a recent mfg).

For home defense, a shotgun may be better than a rifle. For other rifle roles, it depends on what you want to use the rifle for.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 08:11 PM (xcxpd)

84 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?

In California, a super soaker filled with warm cream corn.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 08:12 PM (88DkJ)

85 70: I’d love to attend the TX MoMe but probably never will. Just wanted to de-lurk for a minute to say hi. Yeah, I’m a back-of-church person and I didn’t receive Communion today so no surprise that you didn’t see me. Long homily, eh? Good but long.
Take care! May St. Olga pray for us all!

Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 08:13 PM (lw6gg)

86 18 ... "I’ll substitute my cigar review of the Romeo y Julieta Media Noche. It’s like dogshit wrapped in toilet paper pulled out of Obama’s ass after a hot night with his dead chef. That’s all you need to go know."

Elric,
Please don't hold back out of politeness Tell us what you really think.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 08:14 PM (yTvNw)

87 Ready to shelter. Sirens in Tel Aviv and center.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 22, 2025 08:14 PM (NC42u)

88 Curious, what rifles do those of you in states that have outlawed AR15 use as a substitute?
Posted by: Goatweed at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM (cl9qq)

You might want to look at some of the new "tactical" lever guns from Marlin or S&W or Henry. Ammo capacity isn't as large as an AR, but otherwise pretty handy.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 22, 2025 08:14 PM (pSHcJ)

89 I'm gonna make a gun and call it "The Bastard Sword".
That's a cool name right?
Dagger? WTF? Can you stab somebody with it? Because I'm pretty sure a "dagger" has impied the ability to stab since at least 1350 or so.

Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (LgDgc)

90 I picked up a chubby girl this week.

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjCiLmy

In the 1960s, the Swiss equipped their all soldiers with the equivalent of a Bren gun that also shoots anti-tank rifle grenades.

Long and heavy but fine as a Swiss timepiece.

Posted by: toby928 at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (jc0TO)

91 80 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Brother, that would be one long commute to the TXMoMe....and not a legitimate excuse not to attend said MoMe....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:09 PM

Help a murderous regime recover their nuclear equipment, or attend the TXMoMe?

Easiest decision ever!!!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (HlyYF)

92 89 I'm gonna make a gun and call it "The Bastard Sword".
That's a cool name right?
Dagger? WTF? Can you stab somebody with it? Because I'm pretty sure a "dagger" has impied the ability to stab since at least 1350 or so.
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (LgDgc)

Dunno, ask PSA's marketing dept.
It's a solid pistol though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 22, 2025 08:17 PM (xcxpd)

93 Buddy brought his friend to our weekly skeet shoot. Friend had never shot skeet. Buddy told him to bring shells with #9 shot if he could find them, #8 shot if he couldn't. Friend shows up with his family 12 gauge shotgun, and ammo, and we start shooting. There are 25 shots in a round of skeet.

After 10 shots, friend says he is out of #9 ammo. He has not hit a single target. We pause while he gets some more ammo, this time with #8 shot, from the car. He suddenly begins breaking clay pigeons. He continues hitting the targets, doing quite well for a beginner.

When we are done shooting he shows us the empty ammo box from his first 10 shots. In large letters on the box was "9 Pellet." He had started out shooting 00 buckshot loads, which only have nine pellets per round, as opposed to the 400 or so in a load of #8s.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:21 PM (J+OHH)

94 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

"Skies will be mostly clear this evening, with a chance for a light shower of JDAMS mixed with Tomahawks. Lows around 28C. Tomorrow will have increasing clouds with a chance of JDAM showers late, highs in the mid-30s C."

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:22 PM (BCwQW)

95 The mountains fall out of the sky and they lay there.

Posted by: Traffic circle at June 22, 2025 08:24 PM (63Dwl)

96 When we are done shooting he shows us the empty ammo box from his first 10 shots. In large letters on the box was "9 Pellet." He had started out shooting 00 buckshot loads, which only have nine pellets per round, as opposed to the 400 or so in a load of #8s.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:21 PM

Wow!

I never even feel the recoil when I am shooting light loads at quail.

I do feel my heavy turkey loads a bit, but you are trying to be stealthy, so I don't know if that alters my perception.

I would think(?) I would feel it for sure shooting 00 buckshot, which usually have a pretty good powder charge!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)

97 Seriously late.
Did I miss anything?

Posted by: RI Red at June 22, 2025 08:28 PM (4dsHO)

98 You DO NOT want to be a paper target 10 yards in front of Screaming in Digital when she has a 12 ga. loaded with buckshot.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 08:31 PM (yuVjX)

99 You guys actually get together in person and not wear disguises?
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 22, 2025 07:32 PM

Well, the lighting is kept deliberately low in the Horse Trailer for a reason.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 22, 2025 08:34 PM (yuVjX)

100 I’d love to attend the TX MoMe but probably never will. Just wanted to de-lurk for a minute to say hi. Yeah, I’m a back-of-church person and I didn’t receive Communion today so no surprise that you didn’t see me. Long homily, eh? Good but long.
Take care! May St. Olga pray for us all!
Posted by: LadyS at June 22, 2025 08:13 PM

Hopefully we'll see you at the next NoVaMoMe!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 08:35 PM (yMdDU)

101 Seriously late.
Did I miss anything?
Posted by: RI Red at June 22, 2025 08:28 PM (4dsHO)
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The NoVaMoMe.

Thanks to all who came, It was wonderful to see you all and to meet a few newcomers! To those who couldn't make it, we missed you and hope to see you next year.

No truth at all to the rumor that we had anything to do with the bombings last night. None.

Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (79pEw)

102 Tomorrow will have increasing clouds with a chance of JDAM showers late, highs in the mid-30s C."*

*Localized temperatures may be significantly higher.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (yMdDU)

103 I would think(?) I would feel it for sure shooting 00 buckshot, which usually have a pretty good powder charge!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:25 PM (HlyYF)

I could tell he was shooting full power loads, but that is not unusual to see at the range. The budget 12 gauge shot shells tend to give you your money's worth, with a whole ounce and an eighth of shot and enough gunpowder to operate the crankiest of semi autos.

Me, I load my own gauge target loads, with only 3/4 oz. of shot, which is plenty for just breaking a target. In a heavy shotgun, they almost feel like you are shooting a .22

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:39 PM (J+OHH)

104 CAO cigar review: The Columbia Toro is very nice, featuring toasted vanilla and honey on the palate. Quite rich and slow burning.

The Gold Robusto is...meh. Some cedar and black pepper notes. Little reports that both fade about halfway in. He left about a third of it for me to finish, and I ended up making a Manhattan just to have something interesting to swirl around the tongue between hits...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (bA75n)

105 I hear the dinner bell.

Thanks for another Gub Thread, Weasel.

I hope all of you Morons and 'ettes have a good week!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (HlyYF)

106 No truth at all to the rumor that we had anything to do with the bombings last night. None.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (79pEw)
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Yeah! None!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (a4dG3)

107 The rose parade next year will be lit when the stealth bomber makes it's flyover. Betcha the crowds will cheer more than usual.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 08:43 PM (bGYm4)

108 No truth at all to the rumor that we had anything to do with the bombings last night. None.
Posted by: bluebell at June 22, 2025 08:36 PM (79pEw)
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Yeah! None!
Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 08:41 PM (a4dG3)

There's no connection between the MoMe and the closest Papa Johns' to Fort Fumble seeing a surge in orders at double or triple normal Saturday afternoon levels either.

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:45 PM (BCwQW)

109 Weasel and bluebell,
So pleased the MoMe went off so well. Wish we could have attended. Not to mention that it served as a perfect screen. While Iran was trying to ferret out the MoMe details, the bombers went undetected. VaMoMe, not just for fun and good company anymore.

Posted by: JTB at June 22, 2025 08:48 PM (yTvNw)

110 Bluebell, good evening. I spent some quality time with Mrs. Red at her summer job location.
I made a strategic decision - attend MoMe 400 miles away with frenz, or attend to Mrs. Red 200 miles away.
I now have a positive balance in the marital capital account.

Posted by: RI Red at June 22, 2025 08:48 PM (4dsHO)

111 Bluebell, good evening. I spent some quality time with Mrs. Red at her summer job location.
I made a strategic decision - attend MoMe 400 miles away with frenz, or attend to Mrs. Red 200 miles away.
I now have a positive balance in the marital capital account.
Posted by: RI Red
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I am sure all will be noted in your ever growing permanent record...

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 08:50 PM (IQ6Gq)

112 Bluebell, thank you for putting together another great MoMe for everyone!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:54 PM (BCwQW)

113 Have silencer sales dropped to zero while everyone waits to see if they will get deregulated by the Big Beautiful Bill?

I know my favorite gun shop on Gunbroker has been advertising their silencer inventory heavily over the last few weeks, which they didn't before.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:54 PM (J+OHH)

114 Have silencer sales dropped to zero while everyone waits to see if they will get deregulated by the Big Beautiful Bill?

I know my favorite gun shop on Gunbroker has been advertising their silencer inventory heavily over the last few weeks, which they didn't before.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 22, 2025 08:54 PM (J+OHH)

Vendors at last week's Chantilly show cut prices on their inventory of silencers (and firearms) during the show. I think it was in part to try to move what they have on hand.

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 09:00 PM (BCwQW)

115 Punching out early, as I have a long drive tomorrow.

Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel, and thanks again to you and bluebell for arranging another great NoVaMoMe!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 09:01 PM (yMdDU)

116 94 Anybody know how nice it is living in Qom, Iran this time of year?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

"Skies will be mostly clear this evening, with a chance for a light shower of JDAMS mixed with Tomahawks. Lows around 28C. Tomorrow will have increasing clouds with a chance of JDAM showers late, highs in the mid-30s C."

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 08:22 PM (BCwQW)

Also, uranium oxide particles and dust will continue to fall for the next several days.

Posted by: Gref at June 22, 2025 09:01 PM (aBgBM)

117 For home defense, a shotgun may be better than a rifle. For other rifle roles, it depends on what you want to use the rifle for.

I have discovered that the Tavor X95 with 30rd magazine fits perfectly in the below deck storage in the Genesis GV80. Held securely in place as if the Koreans designed it to be hidden there.

Sometimes the firearm sort of selects itself.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 09:03 PM (a4flb)

118 Hello gun nuts. So glad the MoMe was a rousing success, but sad I wasn't there. Maybe next year, if the work stuff doesn't interfere again.

Can't wait for October!

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 22, 2025 09:04 PM (DnMuk)

119 Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 22, 2025 09:01 PM (yMdDU)
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Adios, amigo. Safe trip home, and my best to Amon. It was great to get the chance to hang out on Saturday!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:05 PM (fLeXO)

120 Punching out early, as I have a long drive tomorrow.

Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel, and thanks again to you and bluebell for arranging another great NoVaMoMe!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Safe and minimal traffic travels home....glad to see you both, looking forward to Oct.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 22, 2025 09:05 PM (IQ6Gq)

121 Amon = mom.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:06 PM (fLeXO)

122 Have a safe trip, RMBS!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 09:06 PM (BCwQW)

123 89 I'm gonna make a gun and call it "The Bastard Sword".
That's a cool name right?
Dagger? WTF? Can you stab somebody with it? Because I'm pretty sure a "dagger" has impied the ability to stab since at least 1350 or so.
Posted by: Reforger at June 22, 2025 08:15 PM (LgDgc)

In Baz Luhrmans Romeo+Juliet many of the guns have Sword and Rapier engraved as names.

So sure. It works.

Posted by: blaster at June 22, 2025 09:12 PM (RoO7G)

124 Howdy Weasel and everyone else! Good time at the MoMe yesterday. Something I really look forward to, and it never disappoints! Can't wait for October. Be there!!

Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 09:13 PM (RFPHU)

125 Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 09:13 PM (RFPHU)
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Thanks, brother. Always good to see you!

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:14 PM (fLeXO)

126 124 Howdy Weasel and everyone else! Good time at the MoMe yesterday. Something I really look forward to, and it never disappoints! Can't wait for October. Be there!!
Posted by: Doof at June 22, 2025 09:13 PM

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Likewise!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 22, 2025 09:17 PM (lIgBp)

127 OK, 9:17 thank you time.

Thank you, especially to those who attended the NoVAMoMe. Appreciate it and hope you all make it again.

Hope to see everyone right back here next Sunday.

Posted by: Weasel at June 22, 2025 09:17 PM (fLeXO)

128 Thanks for hosting, Weasel!

Posted by: Ed L at June 22, 2025 09:18 PM (BCwQW)

129 I have discovered that the Tavor X95 with 30rd magazine fits perfectly in the below deck storage in the Genesis GV80. Held securely in place as if the Koreans designed it to be hidden there.

Sometimes the firearm sort of selects itself.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 09:03 PM (a4flb)

Any bullpup is just plain ugly IMO. The comfort factor is mostly in your head I guess because despite shooting a couple of them, putting a hole in the paper is just plain impossible for me.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at June 22, 2025 09:20 PM (89Sog)

130 Any bullpup is just plain ugly IMO. The comfort factor is mostly in your head I guess because despite shooting a couple of them, putting a hole in the paper is just plain impossible for me.

Five points of contact without counting the sling. For me, its the best CQB configuration available. Has the ergos of the AR but can be stuffed into a tennis racket case.

The Tavor is a bit clunky though when compared to the Desertech MDRx which is almost perfect for those who want compact sub MOA out of the box (the .300BLK is a dream)

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at June 22, 2025 09:26 PM (a4flb)

131 Biden will perform an interpretive dance July 4th.
Why? It's in depends dance day!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 22, 2025 09:27 PM (3VMuV)

132 RAGG
MOPP
Bunker Buster

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 22, 2025 09:38 PM (dDmld)

133 In high school, back when Linotype machines used lead for typesetting - JUST before the Merganthaler Linotron debuted - I discovered that I was a REALLY good Linotype operator. My future was set!
Progress can be disappointing.

Posted by: LeastinID at June 22, 2025 09:54 PM (vFrhm)

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