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Trump to Hyper-Isolationists: I Never Promised You a Rose Garden
But apparently when Trump said this over and over and over again, the hyper-isolationists all heard him saying, "I promise I will pursue Barack Obama's Iran policy and help Iran get a nuclear bomb. And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it." He ever said these things. You made them up. You wanted him to say them, but he never, ever did. He said the opposite.“You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. You cannot let it happen because bad things will happen if that happens.” (6/24/23) pic.twitter.com/BFVxfxBWQh
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025
“Don’t let Iran have nuclear weapons. That’s my only thing I have to tell you today. Don’t let them have it.” (10/16/23) pic.twitter.com/0vvA6gKkAE
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025
“No nuclear weapons. You can’t have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are the single greatest threat to this world.” (11/9/23) pic.twitter.com/sZq7Ql04jT
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) June 17, 2025
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uh oh
Posted by: brak at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (jGJov)
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He's always said no nukes.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:49 PM (ExV1e)
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First!
Posted by: blackstone at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (9byfS)
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I don't want boots on the ground in Iran.
Anything short of that? Go right ahead those f*ckers deserve everything we can help Israel throw at them
Anything short of that? Go right ahead those f*ckers deserve everything we can help Israel throw at them
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:50 PM (t0Rmr)
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But apparently when Trump said this over and over and over again, the hyper-isolationists all heard him saying, "I promise I will pursue Barack Obama's Iran policy and help Iran get a nuclear bomb. And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."
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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Stateless.. 30% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (jvJvP)
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i have decided to try watery shit for a change
it's like heaven
it's like heaven
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (BvMja)
8
Winning solves a multitude of problems.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (jc0TO)
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Ace, awesome post. I'm with you 100%!
Posted by: jb at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (0sIOj)
10
But he's also made it clear, as he did when he used missile attacks to all but wipe out ISIS and also assassinate Iran's top terror commander, that enemy countries which do not accept his open hand will feel his closed fist.
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I remember this stuff.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who remembers this stuff.
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I remember this stuff.
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who remembers this stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)
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But couldn't Iran just have a small, limited nuclear weapon?
Posted by: Joe Biden's speechwriter at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (Dnobf)
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Jeez, Ace, tell us how you really feel.
Content like this makes me vote to spend time at AOS whenever I can.
Jeez, Ace, tell us how you really feel.
Content like this makes me vote to spend time at AOS whenever I can.
Posted by: Auspex at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM (j4U/Z)
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Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)
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The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base."
Things that would fracture the base:
A draft
An American invasion
American Peacekeepers
Things that would not fracture the base:
Bombing Iran
Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
Things that would fracture the base:
A draft
An American invasion
American Peacekeepers
Things that would not fracture the base:
Bombing Iran
Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)
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13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)
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Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)
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Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (GBKbO)
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So, what Trump is saying is he's not stupid and the absolute isolationists are really angry about it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (N1DT3)
18
I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (jc0TO)
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But couldn't Iran just have a small, limited nuclear weapon?
Posted by: Joe Biden's speechwriter at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM
Like a minor incursion? No, not that type Joe.
Posted by: Joe Biden's speechwriter at June 17, 2025 02:52 PM
Like a minor incursion? No, not that type Joe.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (ewjUl)
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I mean, there's a difference between full stop isolationism and just plain not intervening in any patch of dirt where some nomenklatura has an interest to fiddle with. Just because you don't want to be sending troops around willy-nilly doesn't mean you don't acknowledge a case where it's called for, within limits.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (OUMaO)
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Ace I think you meant Cooper called on the US to bomb Tel Aviv
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (akw+7)
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and also assassinate Iran's top terror commander
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That's an act of war by the way.
FYI, for people who are sperging out about bombing Iran being a "new" war.
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That's an act of war by the way.
FYI, for people who are sperging out about bombing Iran being a "new" war.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (Dnobf)
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18 I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (jc0TO)
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Let's be honest: If there's a primary antagonist to Iran it's Israel, not us.
Israel gets the most impact from Iran's funding of terror, including Hezbollah and Hamas.
This isn't our dirty work. We have grievances, legit grievances, against Iran, but Israel has a lot more.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (jc0TO)
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Let's be honest: If there's a primary antagonist to Iran it's Israel, not us.
Israel gets the most impact from Iran's funding of terror, including Hezbollah and Hamas.
This isn't our dirty work. We have grievances, legit grievances, against Iran, but Israel has a lot more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (GBKbO)
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I voted for this. I'd love to see a defeated, forever defanged Iran and hopefully an overthrown by Iranians of their own murderous government. That would help stabilize the middle east by cutting off (or at least reducing) funds for Hamass and Hezzbozack. We would all be safer as a result.
No, I don't want American boots on the ground. I'd prefer if we take no direct action in the war at all. But if Israel needs help with some very special deep penetrating, then so be it. I'd also offer my special penetration services to those hot IDF babes.
No, I don't want American boots on the ground. I'd prefer if we take no direct action in the war at all. But if Israel needs help with some very special deep penetrating, then so be it. I'd also offer my special penetration services to those hot IDF babes.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't want boots on the ground in Iran.
Anything short of that? Go right ahead those f*ckers deserve everything we can help Israel throw at them
Posted by: 18-1
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That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
I don't want boots on the ground in Iran.
Anything short of that? Go right ahead those f*ckers deserve everything we can help Israel throw at them
Posted by: 18-1
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That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (wbZPZ)
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25 That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (wbZPZ)
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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (wbZPZ)
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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:55 PM (GBKbO)
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That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.
That is what he said, that is what he promised, and that is what we voted for.
^^^^^^^^^
I voted for that.
That is what he said, that is what he promised, and that is what we voted for.
^^^^^^^^^
I voted for that.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (PfGa7)
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Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
I don't even believe that give them equipment. We guarantee loans so that they get more favorable rates but, as I understand it, they've paid them all off.
Maybe we help out with some minor gigantic bombings cuz they don't have those bombs - or the planes to deliver them - but I'm cool with that.
I don't even believe that give them equipment. We guarantee loans so that they get more favorable rates but, as I understand it, they've paid them all off.
Maybe we help out with some minor gigantic bombings cuz they don't have those bombs - or the planes to deliver them - but I'm cool with that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)
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It won't work.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (P9gC0)
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Got nothing to do with us but by all means let’s get into another endless war that only benefits our “greatest” ally who has sold American secrets to our enemies, havnt provided ANY actionable intell of consequence, they’ve killed Americans in an attempt to drag us into their wars previously. They ran and are obviously still running a black male ring targeting and capturing American politicians. I’m done with this bullshit.
Posted by: Goucho at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (vFpe0)
31
Imagine if Carter has supported the Shah instead of the Mullahs.
Probably no Iran-Iraq war (because Saddam knows the Shah can smack him around)
No Gulf War
No WoT
and on and on...
Probably no Iran-Iraq war (because Saddam knows the Shah can smack him around)
No Gulf War
No WoT
and on and on...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (t0Rmr)
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Darryl Cooper, the man Tucker Carlson praised and glazed as "the most important popular historian [i.e., 'Twitter crank'] writing today" expressly called for the US Air Force to bomb Tehran.
That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.
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That's Samantha Power's policy.
That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.
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That's Samantha Power's policy.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (VofaG)
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This isn't our dirty work. We have grievances, legit grievances, against Iran, but Israel has a lot more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
It's also in a much better position to do it, between intel, preparations, and a much more favorable logistics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
It's also in a much better position to do it, between intel, preparations, and a much more favorable logistics.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (OUMaO)
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28 Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
I don't even believe that give them equipment. We guarantee loans so that they get more favorable rates but, as I understand it, they've paid them all off.
Maybe we help out with some minor gigantic bombings cuz they don't have those bombs - or the planes to deliver them - but I'm cool with that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)
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I looked at this very briefly a few days ago, and yes, that seems to be the vast majority of "aid" to Israel.
Favorable loans to purchase our weapons.
I mean, it's circular and we probably lose money on it, but that seems to be it.
I don't even believe that give them equipment. We guarantee loans so that they get more favorable rates but, as I understand it, they've paid them all off.
Maybe we help out with some minor gigantic bombings cuz they don't have those bombs - or the planes to deliver them - but I'm cool with that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:56 PM (ExV1e)
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I looked at this very briefly a few days ago, and yes, that seems to be the vast majority of "aid" to Israel.
Favorable loans to purchase our weapons.
I mean, it's circular and we probably lose money on it, but that seems to be it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)
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13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.
Tuck had way way WAY too much pull with PDJT in the first term
now things are different
thank God!!!
Tuck had way way WAY too much pull with PDJT in the first term
now things are different
thank God!!!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (Pv3Rg)
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That's not Trump's policy. He promised to support Israel, and to stop Iran from getting the bomb.
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You're not wrong.
In fact, Trump's been saying exactly that since 2016.
He also showed he meant it throughout his first term.
It shouldn't be surprising to anybody, because Trump has never wavered on these positions.
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You're not wrong.
In fact, Trump's been saying exactly that since 2016.
He also showed he meant it throughout his first term.
It shouldn't be surprising to anybody, because Trump has never wavered on these positions.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (W2Pud)
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I mean, it's circular and we probably lose money on it, but that seems to be it.
yep they buy the weaponry and material from us
yep they buy the weaponry and material from us
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Trump basically blew Tulsi off in one sentence.
"I don't care what she said."
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)
Do you just come here to post inflammatory shit? Tulsi has already said that there is no distance between her position regarding Iranian weapons and Trumps.
"I don't care what she said."
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)
Do you just come here to post inflammatory shit? Tulsi has already said that there is no distance between her position regarding Iranian weapons and Trumps.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ICe/k)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ZmEVT)
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Fucker Carlson, amirite?
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (fV+MH)
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With that kind of admission of error, maybe the post's author should change to Lamont.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (PfGa7)
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-Lot's of military air activity today in western WA.
-Constant jamming of the The High Frequency Global
Communications System (HFGCS)
-USS Nimitz on the way to the Middle East.
-Refueling tankers airborne heading east
It all ads up to ____!
-Constant jamming of the The High Frequency Global
Communications System (HFGCS)
-USS Nimitz on the way to the Middle East.
-Refueling tankers airborne heading east
It all ads up to ____!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (/U5Yz)
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>>>Imagine if Carter has supported the Shah instead of the Mullahs.
He did, didn't he? I thought he did but I don't really know.
He did, didn't he? I thought he did but I don't really know.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (KRtlO)
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Whiney Carlson.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (P9gC0)
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The US is an aggrieved party, and aggrieved by Iran.
Going back to the hostage deal. Marine barracks, and then all the proxy shit they've pulled.
I've been arguing for, at the very least, the USAF to take a hand.
Israel doesn't have the lift capacity to drop those GPU whatevers...
Take the entire nuke sites down, then make the rubble bounce while it glows in the dark.
Going back to the hostage deal. Marine barracks, and then all the proxy shit they've pulled.
I've been arguing for, at the very least, the USAF to take a hand.
Israel doesn't have the lift capacity to drop those GPU whatevers...
Take the entire nuke sites down, then make the rubble bounce while it glows in the dark.
Posted by: MkY at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (+Pp+Q)
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Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?
dude it wasn't a RUMOR
tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!
I almost fell off the treadmill!
little dweeby weasel
dude it wasn't a RUMOR
tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!
I almost fell off the treadmill!
little dweeby weasel
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)
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39 No boots on the ground.
Bombs on the planes, sure.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (W2Pud)
I propose a compromise. Bombs on the ground where the mullahs live.
Bombs on the planes, sure.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2025 02:57 PM (W2Pud)
I propose a compromise. Bombs on the ground where the mullahs live.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (gKWVE)
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FYI, for people who are sperging out about bombing Iran being a "new" war.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (Dnobf)
Did the war that the Iranians started in 1979 ever end?
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:54 PM (Dnobf)
Did the war that the Iranians started in 1979 ever end?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)
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Some time ago MSM barbed Trump for burning on a subordinate with the harsh words, 'you've got to listen', they should have paid attention to the president.
Ill informed media creates an ill informed public. But of course
that's what the communists want.
Ill informed media creates an ill informed public. But of course
that's what the communists want.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Ffc+8)
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And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."
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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.
I guess that didn't work out.
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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.
I guess that didn't work out.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)
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shoot!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Pv3Rg)
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There is not going to be boots on the ground in Iran. If the US is putting troops on the ground anywhere we are already in WW fucking 111
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (DLqye)
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8 I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM
This! If there's no boots on the ground and you can eliminate a nuclear Iran and the funding of terrorists that has killed and injured thousands of Americans. I'm for it. If it means borrowing a few GBU's or aircraft or even piloting them, it's time. Iran's been fucking with everyone for close to 50 years. They funded and ran the insurgency that killed our troops. They cannot have a nuke. If the people of Iran also want to also overthrow the mullah's go for it.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM
This! If there's no boots on the ground and you can eliminate a nuclear Iran and the funding of terrorists that has killed and injured thousands of Americans. I'm for it. If it means borrowing a few GBU's or aircraft or even piloting them, it's time. Iran's been fucking with everyone for close to 50 years. They funded and ran the insurgency that killed our troops. They cannot have a nuke. If the people of Iran also want to also overthrow the mullah's go for it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (ewjUl)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.
I'm a neo-isolationist. I'm fine with the Iran thing, whatever it is and however it ends.
I suspect the part of the base that isn't is very small.
And, like a lot of political disputes, disgruntled parts of the base really have nowhere else to go anyway.
I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.
I'm a neo-isolationist. I'm fine with the Iran thing, whatever it is and however it ends.
I suspect the part of the base that isn't is very small.
And, like a lot of political disputes, disgruntled parts of the base really have nowhere else to go anyway.
I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (UGyV5)
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55 "I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.
I guess that didn't work out.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)
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Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.
I guess that didn't work out.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)
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Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)
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No one who voted for Trump will turn their back to him for "allowing" Israel to annihilate Iran.
Most of us have been waiting 45 years for this.
Most of us have been waiting 45 years for this.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (wBaIH)
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Israel is in the 6th or 7th year of the ten year 30 billion dollar total; aid legislation that passed.
We've given Ukraine 70 billion dollars since February 2022.
We've given Ukraine 70 billion dollars since February 2022.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (VofaG)
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"Hyper-Isolationists"
I don't think such a thing really exists except as another way to try to embarrass Republicans and drive wedges into their political coalitions. I'll bet any amount of money that every one of these "hyper-isolationists" now screeching at Trump were in orgasmic favor of a whole bunch of military operations during Obama's reign of error.
I don't think such a thing really exists except as another way to try to embarrass Republicans and drive wedges into their political coalitions. I'll bet any amount of money that every one of these "hyper-isolationists" now screeching at Trump were in orgasmic favor of a whole bunch of military operations during Obama's reign of error.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (iFTx/)
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>>>51 Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?
dude it wasn't a RUMOR
tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!
...
oh dang I always forget that!
dude it wasn't a RUMOR
tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!
...
oh dang I always forget that!
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (KRtlO)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (fV+MH)
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Iranian nukes = Iraqi weapons of mass destruction
I don't give a shit about Iran. So let's be honest, Iran has been "weeks away" from nukes since the early 1990's.
Bomb them, who gives a shit. But propaganda is propaganda.
I don't give a shit about Iran. So let's be honest, Iran has been "weeks away" from nukes since the early 1990's.
Bomb them, who gives a shit. But propaganda is propaganda.
Posted by: My Sweet Lord at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (zVDqY)
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66 >>>51 Remember when it was rumored that Trump got "serious" about covid after a late night visit from a panicky Tucker?
dude it wasn't a RUMOR
tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!
...
oh dang I always forget that!
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (KRtlO)
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That's not something to forget when you've decided that Tucker sucks.
dude it wasn't a RUMOR
tucker crowed about it ON HIS SHOW!
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oh dang I always forget that!
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:01 PM (KRtlO)
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That's not something to forget when you've decided that Tucker sucks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump is returning foreign policy to pre-Wilson, when it was based on national interests rather than ideology.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (ITkJX)
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>>>I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.
I mean, seriously dude, they've fomented chaos and funded terrorists and have murdered Americans for 66 straight years.
I mean, seriously dude, they've fomented chaos and funded terrorists and have murdered Americans for 66 straight years.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (KRtlO)
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This is not fracturing Trump's base. That is another fantasy.
Posted by: steevy at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (YwEeS)
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That's not something to forget when you've decided that Tucker sucks.
at that time I still found him amusing, like he had been with that other guy whatever
I mean I was watching his show
at that time I still found him amusing, like he had been with that other guy whatever
I mean I was watching his show
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The morons at this smart military blog are missing one YUGE problem with all of this. Somewhere in Albuquerque. There's a district judge that will say, nu uh bro! Trump can't do that! Denied!
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (ewjUl)
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71 Trump is returning foreign policy to pre-Wilson, when it was based on national interests rather than ideology.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (ITkJX)
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One would call it Jacksonian.
Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (ITkJX)
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One would call it Jacksonian.
Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Is it too early to note that the Bush family is a festering chancre on our nation?
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (jc0TO)
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I'm glad to boot a lot of those assholes (Especially Tucker and Dave Smith and Candace Owens) out of Trump's coalition for good. They have insignificant public support, and they can all go piss up a rope.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (uWKK8)
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MAJOR BREAKING - SOMETHING VERY VERY BAD IS HAPPENING Bad developments re Israel Iran. (Link to Kyle Kulinski YouTube video on Iran situation)
This guy referenced the AUMF, but I believe it was repealed. Though Trump doesn't need the AUMF to take this action based on recent history. Also, this guy's barber should be replaced.
"Also, this guy's barber should be replaced." He looks like Wil Wheaton costumed to play a Miami coke dealer.
Nothing but speculation. I hate YouTube and the culture of condensing a paragraph worth of info into 14 minutes of clicks for dicks.
Between Netanyahu telling Iran the "time is here", and Trump leaving G7, other indicators that US may become directly involved, that is, Trump starting war with no congressional approval whatsoever
Trump risks WW3 to stay out of jail. The American people finally are starting to notice the treason. I think he's 100% serious and going to call in airstrikes on Iran
What's in it for him (Trump)? Everything is transactional for him. If he doesn't benefit in some way, he's not interested. He'd rather be out playing golf.
This guy referenced the AUMF, but I believe it was repealed. Though Trump doesn't need the AUMF to take this action based on recent history. Also, this guy's barber should be replaced.
"Also, this guy's barber should be replaced." He looks like Wil Wheaton costumed to play a Miami coke dealer.
Nothing but speculation. I hate YouTube and the culture of condensing a paragraph worth of info into 14 minutes of clicks for dicks.
Between Netanyahu telling Iran the "time is here", and Trump leaving G7, other indicators that US may become directly involved, that is, Trump starting war with no congressional approval whatsoever
Trump risks WW3 to stay out of jail. The American people finally are starting to notice the treason. I think he's 100% serious and going to call in airstrikes on Iran
What's in it for him (Trump)? Everything is transactional for him. If he doesn't benefit in some way, he's not interested. He'd rather be out playing golf.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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I don't get the hyperventilating on the part of those who feel Trump isn't doing Trump. He is. Ace is correct.
I don't want to Bomb Iran or invade it. But those aholes earned what they are getting from Israel. Our support of Israel in this instance is prudent and serves US. I get that it is expensive, and risks escalation. Things were not risk free before. It was already a massively f ked up sitch. You were not negotiating with reasonable or trustworthy people. They had no intentions of going peacefully into the night. Again, as an admirer of adml Josh Painter, I appreciate the risk. You have tried everything else for 40 years with nothing but failure to show for it.
Either do something, or do politics and failure for another 40 years or until it's too late.
I don't want to Bomb Iran or invade it. But those aholes earned what they are getting from Israel. Our support of Israel in this instance is prudent and serves US. I get that it is expensive, and risks escalation. Things were not risk free before. It was already a massively f ked up sitch. You were not negotiating with reasonable or trustworthy people. They had no intentions of going peacefully into the night. Again, as an admirer of adml Josh Painter, I appreciate the risk. You have tried everything else for 40 years with nothing but failure to show for it.
Either do something, or do politics and failure for another 40 years or until it's too late.
Posted by: LOL at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JFNRR)
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72 >>>I think the discontent here will be short-lived, unless Iran foments chaos for years to come.
I mean, seriously dude, they've fomented chaos and funded terrorists and have murdered Americans for 66 straight years.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (KRtlO)
I mean something more like regime collapse and instability (like Libya, like Iraq).
I mean, seriously dude, they've fomented chaos and funded terrorists and have murdered Americans for 66 straight years.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:02 PM (KRtlO)
I mean something more like regime collapse and instability (like Libya, like Iraq).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (UGyV5)
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We should have curb stomped the persians in '79
Posted by: Life of Wryly at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (ycs3a)
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So Iran is using enrichment as a kind of blackmail over the middle east. It appears to finally be backfiring.
Posted by: Max Power at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Hucnr)
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79 Nothing but speculation. I hate YouTube and the culture of condensing a paragraph worth of info into 14 minutes of clicks for dicks.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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I feel seen. By DU of all people.
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I feel seen. By DU of all people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)
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Israel will get by with a little help from its friend.
We're going to blow the lid off Fordow then
sit off the coast and chow down on roast while
assuring that there is no outside interference.
We're going to blow the lid off Fordow then
sit off the coast and chow down on roast while
assuring that there is no outside interference.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Ffc+8)
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The Rand Paul's are neither isolationist nor fiscal conservatives. They are useful idiots for our enemies and media whores from Nowhereville, trying to pretend they matter.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: B-2 Pilot at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
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No one who voted for Trump will turn their back to him for "allowing" Israel to annihilate Iran.
Most of us have been waiting 45 years for this.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (wBaIH)
Some ex MLB star just said he would.
Of course the MSM has that as a top story.
Most of us have been waiting 45 years for this.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 17, 2025 03:00 PM (wBaIH)
Some ex MLB star just said he would.
Of course the MSM has that as a top story.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (VofaG)
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I don't really remember pre-Revolutionary Iran but I was very close with my grandmother (and took care of her before her death) and she frequently traveled to Iran. she loved it there!
I have a bunch of things from there that she gave me, of course rugs but also jewelry and antiques
it just stuck with me. it was a lovely country. and just poof. back to the darkest of ages for all of you poor people.
thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
I have a bunch of things from there that she gave me, of course rugs but also jewelry and antiques
it just stuck with me. it was a lovely country. and just poof. back to the darkest of ages for all of you poor people.
thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Pv3Rg)
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79 What's in it for him (Trump)? Everything is transactional for him. If he doesn't benefit in some way, he's not interested. He'd rather be out playing golf.
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You know...they're kind of right.
Trump would much rather play golf.
But the uniparty of Bush/Clinton/Obama fucked up America enough that Trump felt like he was in a position to help make it right.
Maybe one day they'll figure out that the Bushes and Clintons are on the same team.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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You know...they're kind of right.
Trump would much rather play golf.
But the uniparty of Bush/Clinton/Obama fucked up America enough that Trump felt like he was in a position to help make it right.
Maybe one day they'll figure out that the Bushes and Clintons are on the same team.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (GBKbO)
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I promised 2 important things : 1) No nukes for Iran, and 2) No fat chicks.
Posted by: President Donald Trump at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (SgTMz)
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"Also, this guy's barber should be replaced." He looks like Wil Wheaton costumed to play a Miami coke dealer.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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Ok, that was a good one. I'll give them that. Sounds like something I would say. I have no idea who they're talking about, but whatevs.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (JCZqz)
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Ok, that was a good one. I'll give them that. Sounds like something I would say. I have no idea who they're talking about, but whatevs.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (iFTx/)
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We need to have the TSAR BOMBA follow a bunker buster down into that mountain.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (PfGa7)
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One would call it Jacksonian.
Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
And then he decided to just kick the Spanish out for good and keep the place, orders be damned. One of my favorite (but not talked about much) history stories
Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
And then he decided to just kick the Spanish out for good and keep the place, orders be damned. One of my favorite (but not talked about much) history stories
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (uWKK8)
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88 wait, 46 years
I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
Eh, we don't math here.
But I'm with you on this point. Iran has begged for this outcome for decades. Now it's getting it. Sad!
I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
Eh, we don't math here.
But I'm with you on this point. Iran has begged for this outcome for decades. Now it's getting it. Sad!
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (UGyV5)
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88 wait, 46 years
I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
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It turned me into a newt!
I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
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It turned me into a newt!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Carter kinda did his dickless thing with the Shah where he was lambasting him over human rights in public while slowly pulling back aid to his government.
I don't know if Carter wanted the mullahs to take over but he certainly screwed things up enough where it ended up that way.
He did the same sort of thing that Obama did by ghosting Murbarak in Egypt during the Arab Spring and it almost ended with the same outcome if the Muslim Brotherhood there hadn't been kicked out of power by the army.
I don't know if Carter wanted the mullahs to take over but he certainly screwed things up enough where it ended up that way.
He did the same sort of thing that Obama did by ghosting Murbarak in Egypt during the Arab Spring and it almost ended with the same outcome if the Muslim Brotherhood there hadn't been kicked out of power by the army.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:06 PM (6ydKt)
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77 Is it too early to note that the Bush family is a festering chancre on our nation?
Posted by: toby928
I will reach up from the depths of Hell and strangle the life out of you.
Posted by: toby928
I will reach up from the depths of Hell and strangle the life out of you.
Posted by: Zombie Donny Rumsfeld at June 17, 2025 03:06 PM (/U5Yz)
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95 One would call it Jacksonian.
Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
And then he decided to just kick the Spanish out for good and keep the place, orders be damned. One of my favorite (but not talked about much) history stories
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (uWKK
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I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
Still, he's no William Henry Harrison in terms of great presidents.
Willing to march into Spanish-owned Florida to track down some murderers and hang them, no matter borders.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)
And then he decided to just kick the Spanish out for good and keep the place, orders be damned. One of my favorite (but not talked about much) history stories
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (uWKK
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I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
Still, he's no William Henry Harrison in terms of great presidents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:06 PM (GBKbO)
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He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)
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-=--I mean something more like regime collapse and instability (like Libya, like Iraq).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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It won't be that way. Large part of the population is civil, literate people. Just kill all the tyrants and let them put their country back together.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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It won't be that way. Large part of the population is civil, literate people. Just kill all the tyrants and let them put their country back together.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Ffc+8)
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Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.
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Ah, I hadn't heard that. I think Obama's people talked about balance or counterweight to Israel.
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Ah, I hadn't heard that. I think Obama's people talked about balance or counterweight to Israel.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Gen. Ripper, Wing CC at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (aKoaI)
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He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM
In fairness, he said not to start any foreign wars.
He has inherited a half dozen.
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM
In fairness, he said not to start any foreign wars.
He has inherited a half dozen.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (jc0TO)
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103 Oh, I believe the stated goal was hegemon. It's what the WEF said they wanted.
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Ah, I hadn't heard that. I think Obama's people talked about balance or counterweight to Israel.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Dnobf)
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Joe Mannix knows more about it, but the goal was hegemons in different regions of the planet.
I'm sure Obama talked about balance, but Obama also said that you could keep your doctor if you liked your doctor.
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Ah, I hadn't heard that. I think Obama's people talked about balance or counterweight to Israel.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Dnobf)
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Joe Mannix knows more about it, but the goal was hegemons in different regions of the planet.
I'm sure Obama talked about balance, but Obama also said that you could keep your doctor if you liked your doctor.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)
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101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining
I don't believe he's involved us in any.
Posted by: Its not raining
I don't believe he's involved us in any.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (SgTMz)
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I'm glad to boot a lot of those assholes (Especially Tucker and Dave Smith and Candace Owens) out of Trump's coalition for good. They have insignificant public support, and they can all go piss up a rope.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM
Don't know who Dave Smith is. But I wrote of Candy after Oct 7th. I left gateway Pundit today, there's some racist ass people and too many antisemites over there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:03 PM
Don't know who Dave Smith is. But I wrote of Candy after Oct 7th. I left gateway Pundit today, there's some racist ass people and too many antisemites over there.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (ewjUl)
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We need to have the TSAR BOMBA follow a bunker buster down into that mountain.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (PfGa7)
______
"Huh?"
-- Ritchie Valens
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:05 PM (PfGa7)
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"Huh?"
-- Ritchie Valens
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (iFTx/)
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I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (P9gC0)
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." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.
ummm…
Did they happen to notice that Trump won all the battleground states by peeling democrats and independents away from their usual habits. Trump has succeeded in erecting a Big Tent. This hasn’t been accomplished in 45 years.
What a bunch of crybabies. Yeah, oppose him, whatever.
ummm…
Did they happen to notice that Trump won all the battleground states by peeling democrats and independents away from their usual habits. Trump has succeeded in erecting a Big Tent. This hasn’t been accomplished in 45 years.
What a bunch of crybabies. Yeah, oppose him, whatever.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (+0yeI)
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Trump risks WW3 to stay out of jail.
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lol
You know who else risked a World War to stay out of jail?
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lol
You know who else risked a World War to stay out of jail?
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ir9vH)
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I'm repeating this the last thread because the prevarication mademe roll my eyes:
OT - So the media just out and one lies but we knew that . My newsfeed just reports an article from the left wing, "New Republic" " Trump reams out Pete Hegseth for disastrous military parade" Really? What was disastrous about it? Some of the military wasn't marching in step?
Some posters on the last thread had some good responses. Perhaps we should make up stories about what Trump is reaming out Hegseth about now:
Trump teams out Hegseth for his having larger biceps than he does.
OT - So the media just out and one lies but we knew that . My newsfeed just reports an article from the left wing, "New Republic" " Trump reams out Pete Hegseth for disastrous military parade" Really? What was disastrous about it? Some of the military wasn't marching in step?
Some posters on the last thread had some good responses. Perhaps we should make up stories about what Trump is reaming out Hegseth about now:
Trump teams out Hegseth for his having larger biceps than he does.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (rO61x)
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I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM
We helped overthrow the commies when they got voted in there, which was the style at the time.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM
We helped overthrow the commies when they got voted in there, which was the style at the time.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (jc0TO)
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Tucker comes off like an annoying reformed smoker who constantly nags everyone of the evils of smoking.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism. He absolutely refuses to believe Iran can be as bad as they obviously are because we all got lied to about the intel on Iraq.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism. He absolutely refuses to believe Iran can be as bad as they obviously are because we all got lied to about the intel on Iraq.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (PQWix)
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He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM
In fairness, he said not to start any foreign wars.
He has inherited a half dozen.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (jc0TO)
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This. He's not starting any. Hopefully he can end a few. The only way to end a war is to win it.
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM
In fairness, he said not to start any foreign wars.
He has inherited a half dozen.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:08 PM (jc0TO)
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This. He's not starting any. Hopefully he can end a few. The only way to end a war is to win it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (iFTx/)
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I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
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When did he fold?
I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
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When did he fold?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ffc+8)
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117 ======
I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
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When did he fold?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ffc+
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The nullification crisis.
I think Jackson was legit insane and folded at a key moment in American history, but I can't hate him.
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When did he fold?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (Ffc+
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The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)
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thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Pv3Rg)
Back then the reason Jimmy Carter gave for abandoning both The Shah in Iran and Somoza in Nicaragua in 1979 was their "human rights" abuses.
Hahahahaha...he was a funny guy! Human rights...hahaha!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (Pv3Rg)
Back then the reason Jimmy Carter gave for abandoning both The Shah in Iran and Somoza in Nicaragua in 1979 was their "human rights" abuses.
Hahahahaha...he was a funny guy! Human rights...hahaha!
Posted by: Tony Clifton at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (/xbAD)
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:10 PM (VofaG)
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"When Trump starts talking about your ratings, he's done with you."
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LMFAO ace
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LMFAO ace
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)
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>>I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.
One of the first regime change missions the CIA pulled was in Iran in conjunction with British Intelligence. They've been best buddies ever since.
One of the first regime change missions the CIA pulled was in Iran in conjunction with British Intelligence. They've been best buddies ever since.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (PQWix)
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wait, 46 years
I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
I'm sure you're aware of the rules regarding math on this blog.
I'm not keen on math
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM (KRtlO)
I'm sure you're aware of the rules regarding math on this blog.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (Dnobf)
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Things that would not fracture the base:
Bombing Iran
Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)
Well it is and it will continue to no matter how much people dont want it to be so.
The gen Z and millennials supporting Trump did not do so over his position on corporate tax rates or whatever.
But I guess endless wars are more important to some than the domestic policy Trump was elected to institute.
Is this repairable? I guess it depends on what happens next. But knowing our deep state as well as we all do I am not optimistic that this peters out.
Wont that be fitting though? The maga movement dissolving over deep state foreign wars. This is short sighted and avoidable. But whatever. Politics is fake and gay anyways as we all know.
Bombing Iran
Giving equipment to Israel to bomb Iran
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)
Well it is and it will continue to no matter how much people dont want it to be so.
The gen Z and millennials supporting Trump did not do so over his position on corporate tax rates or whatever.
But I guess endless wars are more important to some than the domestic policy Trump was elected to institute.
Is this repairable? I guess it depends on what happens next. But knowing our deep state as well as we all do I am not optimistic that this peters out.
Wont that be fitting though? The maga movement dissolving over deep state foreign wars. This is short sighted and avoidable. But whatever. Politics is fake and gay anyways as we all know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)
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Quinnipiac has approval for demorats at around 26%.
I think Ross Perot had better numbers.
But this is the time the isolationists want to abandon Trump. Why not just tell the world how irrelevant you are, cut to the chase ya buncha losers.
I think Ross Perot had better numbers.
But this is the time the isolationists want to abandon Trump. Why not just tell the world how irrelevant you are, cut to the chase ya buncha losers.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (+0yeI)
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>>This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.
Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.
He's already there.
Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.
He's already there.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)
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121 "When Trump starts talking about your ratings, he's done with you."
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LMFAO ace
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)
“You shouldn’t even be on this stage”
- from the 2016 primaries
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LMFAO ace
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)
“You shouldn’t even be on this stage”
- from the 2016 primaries
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (Mxf84)
128
Trump reams out Hegseth for having a "Deus Vult" tattoo because Trump never took Latin and doesn't know what it means.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (rO61x)
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Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)
Do you just come here to post inflammatory shit? Tulsi has already said that there is no distance between her position regarding Iranian weapons and Trumps.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ExV1e)
I'm not entirely convinced that Healey and Paratestes are different people.
Do you just come here to post inflammatory shit? Tulsi has already said that there is no distance between her position regarding Iranian weapons and Trumps.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 17, 2025 02:58 PM (ExV1e)
I'm not entirely convinced that Healey and Paratestes are different people.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (lHAAk)
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Obama's handlers's goal was wholesale destruction of the USA and the western world, and they almost got there.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (E0p3T)
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107 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Yea, and Blo Jiden is Mr. Statesman with 40 years of DC Homo Experience and Grifting...
There will not be any US War because Trump will Vaporize the Ragheads in their Goat Pens Buffing Mr. Nanny via the Gluteus Maximus Entry ....
Yea, and Blo Jiden is Mr. Statesman with 40 years of DC Homo Experience and Grifting...
There will not be any US War because Trump will Vaporize the Ragheads in their Goat Pens Buffing Mr. Nanny via the Gluteus Maximus Entry ....
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (aKoaI)
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We went easy on Iran after Reagan because we didn't want to push them into the Soviet orbit and grant them a warm water port.
That reason died with the USSR. That was the moment for payback.
That reason died with the USSR. That was the moment for payback.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (jc0TO)
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Iran and Iraq were both fairly advanced, westernized societies. And then the fundie Aloha Snackbar brigade took over, then, yea. Not so much.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (ewjUl)
134
How does Tucker plan to end Trump's presidency I wonder.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:13 PM (E0p3T)
135
Perhaps we should make up stories about what Trump is reaming out Hegseth about now:
...
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Bringing their idiocy to light is the best antiseptic.
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Bringing their idiocy to light is the best antiseptic.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (Ffc+8)
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126 >>This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.
Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.
He's already there.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)
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Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.
Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.
He's already there.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)
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Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (GBKbO)
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They both start with T. Close enough!
Posted by: Ace
Just a couple of degrees off on the trajectory... no problem, correct it in flight!
Posted by: Ace
Just a couple of degrees off on the trajectory... no problem, correct it in flight!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (qDqg1)
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>enemy countries which do not accept his open hand will feel his closed fist
Trump is doing what Ge. Mattis blustered:
"I came in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you fuck with me, I'll kill you all."
The problem with allowing Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program is that they can't. The primary site of concern is under a mountain too deep for IAF ordnance to penetrate. The US has a bomb that can do the job, but Israel has no bombers with the range and payload capacity to deliver it. So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Trump is doing what Ge. Mattis blustered:
"I came in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you fuck with me, I'll kill you all."
The problem with allowing Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program is that they can't. The primary site of concern is under a mountain too deep for IAF ordnance to penetrate. The US has a bomb that can do the job, but Israel has no bombers with the range and payload capacity to deliver it. So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (xBngO)
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Now that the democrat party fully supports weed, the libertarian party has the same platform.
There was that one small difference, now there is not.
There was that one small difference, now there is not.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (17s+e)
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I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Iran/China was driving our policy even then.
or just idiocy
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Iran/China was driving our policy even then.
or just idiocy
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
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So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM
or the new Persian government dismantles the facilities.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM
or the new Persian government dismantles the facilities.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (jc0TO)
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osted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)
As I always thought you're nothing but a troll. Go back and be a cuck for all your liberal friends like you used to inexplicably brag about.
As I always thought you're nothing but a troll. Go back and be a cuck for all your liberal friends like you used to inexplicably brag about.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (VofaG)
143
Before Iran it was called the Persian Empire.....
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (aKoaI)
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122 >>I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.
One of the first regime change missions the CIA pulled was in Iran in conjunction with British Intelligence. They've been best buddies ever since.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (PQWix)
Yep. We and the Brits have been fucking around with Iranian domestic affairs for almost 100 years now. It all goes back to the discovery of oil in Iran by the Brits.
The 1976 revolution was a direct response to us installing a deeply unpopular dictator (twice) after the Iranian people elected people who wanted to keep that oil money in Iran.
One of the first regime change missions the CIA pulled was in Iran in conjunction with British Intelligence. They've been best buddies ever since.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:11 PM (PQWix)
Yep. We and the Brits have been fucking around with Iranian domestic affairs for almost 100 years now. It all goes back to the discovery of oil in Iran by the Brits.
The 1976 revolution was a direct response to us installing a deeply unpopular dictator (twice) after the Iranian people elected people who wanted to keep that oil money in Iran.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (zuAlv)
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101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)
Trump's making the best of the hand he was dealt.
He hasn't started new wars.
He gave Iran 60 days to make a deal.
He's done a few weeks of strikes against the Houthis - who got what was coming to them.
We haven't done anything else that I can remember.
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)
Trump's making the best of the hand he was dealt.
He hasn't started new wars.
He gave Iran 60 days to make a deal.
He's done a few weeks of strikes against the Houthis - who got what was coming to them.
We haven't done anything else that I can remember.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (6ydKt)
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Ok, that was a good one. I'll give them that. Sounds like something I would say. I have no idea who they're talking about, but whatevs.
Posted by: Elric Blade
He's a Lefty YouTuber with a "show" called The Kyle Kulinski show on his channel Secular Talk. He's married to fellow Lefty media person Krystal Ball, who's older, and I think divorced her husband for Kyle?
https://tinyurl.com/3r5z7d9y
Posted by: Elric Blade
He's a Lefty YouTuber with a "show" called The Kyle Kulinski show on his channel Secular Talk. He's married to fellow Lefty media person Krystal Ball, who's older, and I think divorced her husband for Kyle?
https://tinyurl.com/3r5z7d9y
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (JCZqz)
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I don't get the bitching. We are in the best of scenarios where someone else is doing our dirty work.
It's perfect, really, and we could get a Free Persia out of the deal. (as in freedom, not low-cost)
It's perfect, really, and we could get a Free Persia out of the deal. (as in freedom, not low-cost)
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (1XOgo)
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134 How does Tucker plan to end Trump's presidency I wonder.
fortunately now he is term-limited which removes leverage from people like Tuck
fortunately now he is term-limited which removes leverage from people like Tuck
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Jeez, a man who does what he says he is going to do.
Hard to understand.
Hard to understand.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (n4GiU)
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... but ... but ... they would be *mostly peaceful* nuclear weapons!
Posted by: The MSM at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (4RPgu)
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I really don't get the anti-Israel stance a lot on the right seem to be taking. I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating, but that somehow it's Israel-the only country in the Middle East not run by an Islamic regime and the one currently kicking the hell out of the biggest threat by far in that region-that just loves to start wars. Which really ignores the constant threat that country has faced since day 1 of existing.
Do I completely trust the Israelis? No. Do I think they have a perfect track record of behavior? No, no one does. But do I see them as our only real ally there and do I admire the military operations they can pull off? Damn right i do.
Do I completely trust the Israelis? No. Do I think they have a perfect track record of behavior? No, no one does. But do I see them as our only real ally there and do I admire the military operations they can pull off? Damn right i do.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (f70Xg)
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Lame Duck.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (P9gC0)
153
Bath House Barry has been mighty quiet. Most likely changing the Middle East wing of His Big 'Ol Chicago Bath House into the Reach Around Room. If things work out right his legacy will be a full Jimmy for setting Iran on the path to nuking Israel. If Biden won a second term - I don't like thinking about the horrific consequences of that.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (m7pre)
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I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy.
Angry Ewok is Best Ewok.
I didn't vote for your fucking queerbait RoN pAuL!!!-cum-Medea-Benjamin gaywad peacenik foreign policy.
Angry Ewok is Best Ewok.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (y9nCu)
155
The elephant in the room is Tucker busted himself on opinions regarding Israel long ago.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (E0p3T)
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I don't know much Iranian history pre late 70s.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (P9gC0)
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My limited knowledge is that it was quite Westernized and modernized -- (ironically) similar to Israel actually -- and what other Middle Eastern countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, et. al ) have been aspiring to now for decades.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (P9gC0)
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My limited knowledge is that it was quite Westernized and modernized -- (ironically) similar to Israel actually -- and what other Middle Eastern countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, et. al ) have been aspiring to now for decades.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ir9vH)
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Wont that be fitting though? The maga movement dissolving over deep state foreign wars. This is short sighted and avoidable. But whatever. Politics is fake and gay anyways as we all know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)
The Deeps State's Presidents (Obama/Biden) actively supported Iran, so I don't know what you're talking about, and I'm not sure you do, either.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (zuAlv)
The Deeps State's Presidents (Obama/Biden) actively supported Iran, so I don't know what you're talking about, and I'm not sure you do, either.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Dnobf)
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The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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Your perspective on that is......different.
The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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Your perspective on that is......different.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ffc+8)
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Not hegemon, just a "balance" for Israel.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)
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Thanks for reminding me about that. Good lord what a shitstain.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 02:59 PM (Dnobf)
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Thanks for reminding me about that. Good lord what a shitstain.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (wzAuc)
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RedWave Press
@RedWave_Press
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins: “Is there any guarantee that if the U.S. did get involved militarily that a U.S. b*mb could destroy Iran's nuclear program and facilities?”
President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins: “Do you think if the U.S. got involved militarily it would actually wipe out Iran's nuclear program? Or where's your assessment of that?”
President Trump: “Well I hope their program's going to be wiped out long before then, but they're not going to have a nuclear weapon.”
RedWave Press
@RedWave_Press
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins: “Is there any guarantee that if the U.S. did get involved militarily that a U.S. b*mb could destroy Iran's nuclear program and facilities?”
President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins: “Do you think if the U.S. got involved militarily it would actually wipe out Iran's nuclear program? Or where's your assessment of that?”
President Trump: “Well I hope their program's going to be wiped out long before then, but they're not going to have a nuclear weapon.”
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (TGPs7)
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As I always thought you're nothing but a troll. Go back and be a cuck for all your liberal friends like you used to inexplicably brag about.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (VofaG)
Yes anyone who disagrees with you and your Fox News boomer take on world events is a troll.
I have no idea what youre talking about with liberal friends but whatever.
And hey I only represent what? 20-30 percent of Trump voters? Im sure insulting people with my positions will do a great job at winning elections going forward.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (VofaG)
Yes anyone who disagrees with you and your Fox News boomer take on world events is a troll.
I have no idea what youre talking about with liberal friends but whatever.
And hey I only represent what? 20-30 percent of Trump voters? Im sure insulting people with my positions will do a great job at winning elections going forward.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)
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He's a Lefty YouTuber with a "show" called The Kyle Kulinski show on his channel Secular Talk. He's married to fellow Lefty media person Krystal Ball, who's older, and I think divorced her husband for Kyle?
Krystal Ball ? I'll take porn star names for 400 Alex.
Krystal Ball ? I'll take porn star names for 400 Alex.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (ewjUl)
163
Who will wipe our vegetables?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (63Dwl)
164
I'm going to suspend judgment until I find out what Rob Reiner thinks about this...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (PiwSw)
165
Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
NO! There is...another...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
NO! There is...another...
Posted by: Yoda Ace, pining for DeSantis 2028 at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (JCZqz)
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President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”
oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
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How does Tucker plan to end Trump's presidency I wonder.
Maybe his DS bosses have another attentat in the works? 🤔
Maybe his DS bosses have another attentat in the works? 🤔
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (uSuNC)
168
Where is Fat Boy Austin with that stupid Plastic Mask to prevent his soberly body from getting the Wuhan Flu???
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (aKoaI)
169
>>The 1976 revolution was a direct response to us installing a deeply unpopular dictator (twice) after the Iranian people elected people who wanted to keep that oil money in Iran.
It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.
Iran was not exactly innocent in what happened but it all went pear shaped after the Shah was installed.
It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.
Iran was not exactly innocent in what happened but it all went pear shaped after the Shah was installed.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (PQWix)
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What a bunch of crybabies. Yeah, oppose him, whatever.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (+0yeI)
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This is about me isn't you bully!!![/sobs]
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:09 PM (+0yeI)
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This is about me isn't you bully!!![/sobs]
Posted by: Cryin Ron Pudilla at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (17s+e)
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My Dad almost gad to go to that in circa 1976.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (P9gC0)
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>>>Tucker comes off like an annoying reformed smoker who constantly nags everyone of the evils of smoking.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism. He absolutely refuses to believe Iran can be as bad as they obviously are because we all got lied to about the intel on Iraq.
It's more than that.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism. He absolutely refuses to believe Iran can be as bad as they obviously are because we all got lied to about the intel on Iraq.
It's more than that.
Posted by: ace at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (KRtlO)
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So these people are claiming they would have voted Kamala if only they knew Trump's policy on Iran, eh?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (E0p3T)
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>>I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating
That is why you are confused.
It is pervasive and it runs deep.
That is why you are confused.
It is pervasive and it runs deep.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (uZ2FS)
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158 =====
The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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Your perspective on that is......different.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ffc+
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Renegotiating the tariff rates instead of arresting the SC politicians, starting with Calhoun, advocating for nullification was him folding.
The nullification crisis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
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Your perspective on that is......different.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (Ffc+
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Renegotiating the tariff rates instead of arresting the SC politicians, starting with Calhoun, advocating for nullification was him folding.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)
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I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Iran/China was driving our policy even then.
or just idiocy
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
We went after Iraq because since Desert Storm, they were firing on US aircraft almost daily.
For starters.
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Iran/China was driving our policy even then.
or just idiocy
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
We went after Iraq because since Desert Storm, they were firing on US aircraft almost daily.
For starters.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (lHAAk)
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I’m fine with Trump making the decisions, he is the CiC after all.
All I want to know is what is the dividing line between the USA and Israel foreign policy?
All I want to know is what is the dividing line between the USA and Israel foreign policy?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (tn3dm)
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Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO
They tried to redefine antisemitism, criminalize criticism of Israel on college campuses, and most crucially, seed the idea that the declaration of Christ as our King amounted to hatred against Jews.
All of this was done in preparation for the
“Greater Israel” agenda, regarding which they attempted to emotionally manipulate Americans to accept.
The conspiracy theorists were right again. It was always about a planned war with Iran and a doomed, heretical belief that mass slaughter of women and children is messianic.
If you believe the polish Benjamin Mileikowsky is chosen by God to impart murder, starvation, rape and blackmail, then may God have mercy on your soul.
Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.
@RealCandaceO
They tried to redefine antisemitism, criminalize criticism of Israel on college campuses, and most crucially, seed the idea that the declaration of Christ as our King amounted to hatred against Jews.
All of this was done in preparation for the
“Greater Israel” agenda, regarding which they attempted to emotionally manipulate Americans to accept.
The conspiracy theorists were right again. It was always about a planned war with Iran and a doomed, heretical belief that mass slaughter of women and children is messianic.
If you believe the polish Benjamin Mileikowsky is chosen by God to impart murder, starvation, rape and blackmail, then may God have mercy on your soul.
Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)
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Good thing Trump isn't running for Office.
He's already there.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)
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People keep forgetting this.
Trump is not running again.
He's the Honey Badger President now because he just doesn't give a fuck.
He's already there.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:12 PM (uZ2FS)
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People keep forgetting this.
Trump is not running again.
He's the Honey Badger President now because he just doesn't give a fuck.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (6ydKt)
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Germany's Chancellor says " Israel is doing the World's dirty work ".
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (DLqye)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (/U5Yz)
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About now is when Tehran Tina should getting interviewed by CNN so she can explain how Allah and the Mullahs have Big and Little Satan right where they want them.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (m7pre)
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165 Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
NO! There is...another...
Posted by: Yoda Ace, pining for DeSantis 2028 at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (JCZqz)
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I think the only person with a remote shot will be Rubio.
Proximity to Trump is going to be so valuable in the 28 Republican primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
NO! There is...another...
Posted by: Yoda Ace, pining for DeSantis 2028 at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (JCZqz)
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I think the only person with a remote shot will be Rubio.
Proximity to Trump is going to be so valuable in the 28 Republican primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)
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If Biden won a second term - I don't like thinking about the horrific consequences of that.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (m7pre)
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Ditto to Killary winning a first (or even second) term.
That alone makes Trump an American Immortal and Godsend ... but mostly Godsend.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:17 PM (m7pre)
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Ditto to Killary winning a first (or even second) term.
That alone makes Trump an American Immortal and Godsend ... but mostly Godsend.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (diNR9)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (+qU29)
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President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”
oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
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TRUMP INSULTED A STRONK LADY GIRLBOSS. THE HORROR!
oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (Pv3Rg)
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TRUMP INSULTED A STRONK LADY GIRLBOSS. THE HORROR!
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (iFTx/)
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And hey I only represent what? 20-30 percent of Trump voters? Im sure insulting people with my positions will do a great job at winning elections going forward.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)
You and friends would have preferred Kamala's position on Forever War, yeah?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)
You and friends would have preferred Kamala's position on Forever War, yeah?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (E0p3T)
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Tucker comes off like an annoying reformed smoker who constantly nags everyone of the evils of smoking.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism.
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Iraq wasn't wrong because it was wrong. It was wrong because Iran and Saudi were more likely to have been involved in 9/11 and because *whoever* you wish to wage war with must be taught that the destruction of their stuff will continue UNTIL the bring ALL of their forces (uniformed and otherwise) to a complete stop. IF we were going to "do" Iraq, it should have been pounding after pounding until there was no longer any resistance offered. Iraq turned out horribly because its objectives were wrong and as a result its execution cost our soldiers dearly.
He was all in on the war in Iraq and when it turned out bad he embraced isolationism.
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Iraq wasn't wrong because it was wrong. It was wrong because Iran and Saudi were more likely to have been involved in 9/11 and because *whoever* you wish to wage war with must be taught that the destruction of their stuff will continue UNTIL the bring ALL of their forces (uniformed and otherwise) to a complete stop. IF we were going to "do" Iraq, it should have been pounding after pounding until there was no longer any resistance offered. Iraq turned out horribly because its objectives were wrong and as a result its execution cost our soldiers dearly.
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (TN0g+)
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The best thing about no mullah Iran would be less funding to hamas, hezboula, and hutis.
No to the 3H!
4H is good program though.
No to the 3H!
4H is good program though.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (rvwwT)
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>>It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Amazing what our Gen Z rep doesn't know.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Amazing what our Gen Z rep doesn't know.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)
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166 President Trump: “There's no guarantees in anything in life-- you know that. Look at you, right? There's no guarantee.”
oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid
I did the same thing and it backfired! Damn that Trump and his privilege!
oh God that's funny
I like salty Trump!
Posted by: Black Orchid
I did the same thing and it backfired! Damn that Trump and his privilege!
Posted by: Sen Ernst, saying "we're all going to die" responding to a Medicaid question at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (JCZqz)
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thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM
We had two new students in the mid 70s in my class. I still remember the Persian kid and the other kid that moved here from Saudi Arabia telling us about chop chop square. I believe the Persian kid's family was associated with the Shah and they fled.
The Persian kid's older sister had an arm full of gold bangles and you didn't see that kind of jewelry then. I don't remember her name but I remember the boy's name.
thanks Jimmy you idiot. trusting the revolutionaries. of course you did.
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:04 PM
We had two new students in the mid 70s in my class. I still remember the Persian kid and the other kid that moved here from Saudi Arabia telling us about chop chop square. I believe the Persian kid's family was associated with the Shah and they fled.
The Persian kid's older sister had an arm full of gold bangles and you didn't see that kind of jewelry then. I don't remember her name but I remember the boy's name.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (v2VfP)
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umm is that entire post a quote from Owens or?
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Fuck's aches, just find some IAF stickers and slap 'em on a B-2. Put a fake xpdr on the bastard and bombs away. The five sided nuthouse can pay for it out of petty cash for cryin' out loud. This isn't some massive intractable problem here.
Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.
Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (BcT2b)
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101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)
Iran has been at War with the Great Satan since the late 70's. It's nothing new.
Sorry, for me this is a bit personal, as I helped pick up Dead Bodies in Beirut in 83... died when a Truck Bomb designed and Built in Iran, and driven across Syria to Beirut, destroyed our Marine Barracks.
Posted by: Its not raining youre pissing down my leg at June 17, 2025 03:07 PM (Eg3nV)
Iran has been at War with the Great Satan since the late 70's. It's nothing new.
Sorry, for me this is a bit personal, as I helped pick up Dead Bodies in Beirut in 83... died when a Truck Bomb designed and Built in Iran, and driven across Syria to Beirut, destroyed our Marine Barracks.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)
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163 Who will wipe our vegetables?
I have recently started giving my fresh produce a vinegar bath before consuming.
Omg, what have I been consuming all these years?? Frightening what the water looks like.
I ate a lot of unadulterated produce growing up due to oarents/grandparents growing lots of vegetables and some fruit. Guess I’ll have to find another source if homegrown
I have recently started giving my fresh produce a vinegar bath before consuming.
Omg, what have I been consuming all these years?? Frightening what the water looks like.
I ate a lot of unadulterated produce growing up due to oarents/grandparents growing lots of vegetables and some fruit. Guess I’ll have to find another source if homegrown
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (uSuNC)
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>>It's more than that.
Sure, there's more now. But that was the genesis of his morphing from a hawk to an isolationist and Israel bad because they have the temerity to fight back instead of rolling over and dying.
Sure, there's more now. But that was the genesis of his morphing from a hawk to an isolationist and Israel bad because they have the temerity to fight back instead of rolling over and dying.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (PQWix)
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196 Hope Tucker made enough money.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)
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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)
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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)
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I think we should just bomb Ireland to be honest.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (fV+MH)
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The problem with allowing Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program is that they can't. The primary site of concern is under a mountain too deep for IAF ordnance to penetrate. The US has a bomb that can do the job, but Israel has no bombers with the range and payload capacity to deliver it. So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (xBngO)
Pretty sure the Israelis said they have a plan which does not require US help. And considering that when Dems are in power they would have to have that plan, so I tend to believe them. Prolly something more sophisticated than a 30000 lb bomb.
The problem with allowing Israel to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program is that they can't. The primary site of concern is under a mountain too deep for IAF ordnance to penetrate. The US has a bomb that can do the job, but Israel has no bombers with the range and payload capacity to deliver it. So the only way for Israel to wipe out the nuclear program is with US bombs delivered from US planes. That's just the reality of the situation.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at June 17, 2025 03:14 PM (xBngO)
Pretty sure the Israelis said they have a plan which does not require US help. And considering that when Dems are in power they would have to have that plan, so I tend to believe them. Prolly something more sophisticated than a 30000 lb bomb.
Posted by: Lt oddball at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (OA79/)
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107 101 He also promised no foreign wars. How's that going?
Posted by: Its not raining
I don't believe he's involved us in any.
Posted by: Dr Spank
Let's see where we stand tomorrow.
Posted by: Its not raining
I don't believe he's involved us in any.
Posted by: Dr Spank
Let's see where we stand tomorrow.
Posted by: No confidence at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Eg3nV)
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It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.
Iran was not exactly innocent in what happened but it all went pear shaped after the Shah was installed.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (PQWix)
Absolutely. But there are repercussions to overthrowing governments and installing brutal dictators.
A lesson the US and our retarded European allies seem incapable of learning.
Or if youre a cynical type you might think they know exactly what theyre doing and its by design to keep the money flowing to the military industrial complex / deep state.
Iran was not exactly innocent in what happened but it all went pear shaped after the Shah was installed.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (PQWix)
Absolutely. But there are repercussions to overthrowing governments and installing brutal dictators.
A lesson the US and our retarded European allies seem incapable of learning.
Or if youre a cynical type you might think they know exactly what theyre doing and its by design to keep the money flowing to the military industrial complex / deep state.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (zuAlv)
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On a non-related point, Fat Harvey got convicted on one count of sexual assault.
The jurors instantly went to the media and whined and cried and made Mean-Girl-type accusations against other jurors. One juror was earlier dismissed for whining about other jurors. Total reality-TV circus.
I'm sure the jury took their responsibilities very seriously in dispassionately deliberating over the charges against Fat Harv.
The jurors instantly went to the media and whined and cried and made Mean-Girl-type accusations against other jurors. One juror was earlier dismissed for whining about other jurors. Total reality-TV circus.
I'm sure the jury took their responsibilities very seriously in dispassionately deliberating over the charges against Fat Harv.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (PQWix)
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Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)
Wait, which Christians are being slaughtered because of Netanyahu? Where?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)
Wait, which Christians are being slaughtered because of Netanyahu? Where?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Mxf84)
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I think we should just bomb Ireland to be honest.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (fV+MH)
Don't even joke about that. You go after my Irish Redheads and there will be hell to pay.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (fV+MH)
Don't even joke about that. You go after my Irish Redheads and there will be hell to pay.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (E0p3T)
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Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.
CUT
JIB
NEWSLETTAHHHH
CUT
JIB
NEWSLETTAHHHH
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Warai, seconded
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (DLqye)
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Yep. We and the Brits have been fucking around with Iranian domestic affairs for almost 100 years now. It all goes back to the discovery of oil in Iran by the Brits.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The Brits have been involved for more like 200+ years, along with the Russians. It was a front in the Great Game.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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The Brits have been involved for more like 200+ years, along with the Russians. It was a front in the Great Game.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (ITkJX)
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205 >>Trump is not running again.
Kings don't run for office. duh
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (PQWix)
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God Emperors rule for 3500 years to put humanity on the Golden Path.
Kings don't run for office. duh
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (PQWix)
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God Emperors rule for 3500 years to put humanity on the Golden Path.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)
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Regarding #178. Just curious for an approximate date on that?
Also, if that's a verified quote, I'd love to hear Candace's defenders try to explain why they still hold any respect for her after that post?
Also, if that's a verified quote, I'd love to hear Candace's defenders try to explain why they still hold any respect for her after that post?
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (TN0g+)
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Or just bomb the shit out the damn cyclotrons ourselves and say "because Fuck You that's why". Let all the sniveling bitches have their little tantrums in their little newspapers that no one reads, who cares.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (BcT2b)
Wonder how much outside movement a spinning centrifuge can survive... can't be much those tolerances have to be pretty tight at the speed those spin...
Multiple bombs, dropped off target in a line leading to said target, timed to increase the shock wave created by the first bomb.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (BcT2b)
Wonder how much outside movement a spinning centrifuge can survive... can't be much those tolerances have to be pretty tight at the speed those spin...
Multiple bombs, dropped off target in a line leading to said target, timed to increase the shock wave created by the first bomb.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (mP0Kj)
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I have to confess that I liked the 'Deffs to da Shah' students in college than the 'We only want our land' Palestinians. Those guys were boring.
Posted by: toby928 at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (jc0TO)
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174 >>I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating
That is why you are confused.
It is pervasive and it runs deep.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (uZ2FS)
It's weirdly popular, I'll give you that. Not just hushed conversations now but full blown agenda.
That is why you are confused.
It is pervasive and it runs deep.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (uZ2FS)
It's weirdly popular, I'll give you that. Not just hushed conversations now but full blown agenda.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (A5bjg)
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"Vance is going to be able to take on the popular stuff and distance himself from the unpopular stuff in 28. If the Trump administration is overall considered a success, the distancing will be easy enough."
James, I disagree. The problem that any vice-president faces is to distinguish himself from his predecessor, and his predecessor's mistakes (and every president makes them) while not alienating his predecessor's supporters. The only VP who managed that successfully was Thomas Jefferson, and that was only because his predecessor, John Adams, was himself deeply unpopular - mainly because Adams tried to be his own man rather than the second coming of George Washington. It will be very hard for Vance to define himself as his own man without alienating Trump's MAGA supporters. Vance might well be better off waiting a few years - say, after the DeSantis administration - before re-entering the presidental stakes, much like Richard Nixon did.
James, I disagree. The problem that any vice-president faces is to distinguish himself from his predecessor, and his predecessor's mistakes (and every president makes them) while not alienating his predecessor's supporters. The only VP who managed that successfully was Thomas Jefferson, and that was only because his predecessor, John Adams, was himself deeply unpopular - mainly because Adams tried to be his own man rather than the second coming of George Washington. It will be very hard for Vance to define himself as his own man without alienating Trump's MAGA supporters. Vance might well be better off waiting a few years - say, after the DeSantis administration - before re-entering the presidental stakes, much like Richard Nixon did.
Posted by: The MSM at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (4RPgu)
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199 196 Hope Tucker made enough money.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)
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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)
He should find a new hobbies like raising thoroughbred or America's cup sailing.199 196 Hope Tucker made enough money.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:22 PM (A5bjg)
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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)
He should find a new hobbies like raising thoroughbred or America's cup sailing.199 196 Hope Tucker made enough money.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (OA79/)
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"Germany's Chancellor says " Israel is doing the World's dirty work ".
Posted by: Ben Had "
Wow, really?
Posted by: Ben Had "
Wow, really?
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (UjdFS)
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:18 PM (zuAlv)
Ah...the first option for a flaccid intellect...ad hominem arguments.
Your ignorant and transparent attempt to tar Trump with the neo-con brush is ridiculous. Try to understand his foreign policy, and not just reflexively criticize it.
It's not difficult. He says it in plain English, using simple declaratory sentences.
Ah...the first option for a flaccid intellect...ad hominem arguments.
Your ignorant and transparent attempt to tar Trump with the neo-con brush is ridiculous. Try to understand his foreign policy, and not just reflexively criticize it.
It's not difficult. He says it in plain English, using simple declaratory sentences.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (L5An7)
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It's worked out so well in the past, Marky boy...
Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
Isolationists stand in the way of Trump and Netanyahu transforming the Middle East
Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
Isolationists stand in the way of Trump and Netanyahu transforming the Middle East
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (TGPs7)
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Comes from old money. He's already rich and will always be rich.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Carlson's mother is an heiress to the Swanson family (food products) fortune, or something.
His father was a producer for ABC News.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)
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Carlson's mother is an heiress to the Swanson family (food products) fortune, or something.
His father was a producer for ABC News.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (6ydKt)
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That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
Call it a Test Drive.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
Call it a Test Drive.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (NHiEn)
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (n+rGF)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (28IDa)
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Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians.
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It should be easy to list one, in that case.
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It should be easy to list one, in that case.
Posted by: Methos at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (Dnobf)
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Krystal Ball ? I'll take porn star names for 400 Alex.
Posted by: Minnfidel
Who would believe a name like that?
Posted by: Harry Glasscock
Posted by: Minnfidel
Who would believe a name like that?
Posted by: Harry Glasscock
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (PfGa7)
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I think we should just bomb Ireland to be honest.
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There's two types of people I can't stand--those that are intolerant of others, and the Dutch.
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There's two types of people I can't stand--those that are intolerant of others, and the Dutch.
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (TN0g+)
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Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (Pv3Rg)
She doesn’t have to worry about losing a paycheck due to her marrying WAY up in the world. So now webget Candace Unplugged.
I hope someday she is embarrassed about what she has written. If she doesn’t, I see her morphing into a mash-up of Rosa DiLauro and Maxine Waters.
She doesn’t have to worry about losing a paycheck due to her marrying WAY up in the world. So now webget Candace Unplugged.
I hope someday she is embarrassed about what she has written. If she doesn’t, I see her morphing into a mash-up of Rosa DiLauro and Maxine Waters.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (PFbvp)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:27 PM (91YPD)
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This is what the isolationists don't see - first, this is the culmination of a 40+ year conflict against the Ayatollahs, and second, they are now on the ropes and ready to fall. One more little push and they're gone. They could have been gone during Obama's time, but he backed the regime instead of the people.
Israel has already done all of the hard work. They're ready to fall, right now. So does anyone seriously think Trump will become unpopular for winning one of the most overwhelming and one sided victories in US History? Really? Really? Well sit on the sidelines and watch and see how it plays out.
Israel has already done all of the hard work. They're ready to fall, right now. So does anyone seriously think Trump will become unpopular for winning one of the most overwhelming and one sided victories in US History? Really? Really? Well sit on the sidelines and watch and see how it plays out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (uWKK8)
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I really don't get the anti-Israel stance a lot on the right seem to be taking. I don't believe it's all based in Jew hating,
There are two Israels, just like there are two Americas. Why are *we* hated around the world? We aren't- it's our Deep State faction and its actions that are.
There are two Israels, just like there are two Americas. Why are *we* hated around the world? We aren't- it's our Deep State faction and its actions that are.
Posted by: t-bird at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (x405f)
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Thanks for pointing that out.
Amazing what our Gen Z rep doesn't know.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)
Im way too old to be gen z. And I of course know the history of US and British involvement in Iran. As does everyone commenting on the issue of war with Iran I would assume. Right? Or are people just repeating the same nonsense that they know nothing about that got us involved in Iraq?
Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?
Jeb would have at least kept dick Cheney in the republican camp.
Amazing what our Gen Z rep doesn't know.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)
Im way too old to be gen z. And I of course know the history of US and British involvement in Iran. As does everyone commenting on the issue of war with Iran I would assume. Right? Or are people just repeating the same nonsense that they know nothing about that got us involved in Iraq?
Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?
Jeb would have at least kept dick Cheney in the republican camp.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)
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Nice rant Ace!
Ok Iran is in a corner where their only 2 options are 1) "Use'em or lose'em" on whatever weapons they have left or 2) Give up.
They still aren't convinced to go with option 2 because they still have Fordow, and think that gives them "negotiating room".
That leaves 4 options for eliminating Fordow from the equation (2 hard, 2 easy):
Hard 1: Israel hits Fordow from the air, over, and over, and over, and over....again. Until all power, air, entrances, etc are sealed off.
Hard 2: Israel hits Fordow wih a ground assault with MANY lost lives, until everything is sealed off.
Easy 1: Someone (insurgents, disaafected military, etc.) infiltrates Fordow and blows it up. Lots of lost lives among the insurgents, but no Israeli (or US) casulaties.
Easy 2: US hits Fordow with "Bunker Busters" until it is a smoking hole.
Just my thoughts.
-SLV
Ok Iran is in a corner where their only 2 options are 1) "Use'em or lose'em" on whatever weapons they have left or 2) Give up.
They still aren't convinced to go with option 2 because they still have Fordow, and think that gives them "negotiating room".
That leaves 4 options for eliminating Fordow from the equation (2 hard, 2 easy):
Hard 1: Israel hits Fordow from the air, over, and over, and over, and over....again. Until all power, air, entrances, etc are sealed off.
Hard 2: Israel hits Fordow wih a ground assault with MANY lost lives, until everything is sealed off.
Easy 1: Someone (insurgents, disaafected military, etc.) infiltrates Fordow and blows it up. Lots of lost lives among the insurgents, but no Israeli (or US) casulaties.
Easy 2: US hits Fordow with "Bunker Busters" until it is a smoking hole.
Just my thoughts.
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (e/Osv)
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ayfkm? srsly? bomb Tel Aviv? WTAF?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (/Ghsb)
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140 I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
Iraq/Saddam's government was being taken over by Salafists, which are Islamic radicals like the Wahabbis.
The surviving members of this movement, particularly some officers, ended up forming the core of ISIS.
By comparison in Saudi Arabia we were able to cooperate with the monarchy in the 2000s to curtail the Wahabbis.
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
Iraq/Saddam's government was being taken over by Salafists, which are Islamic radicals like the Wahabbis.
The surviving members of this movement, particularly some officers, ended up forming the core of ISIS.
By comparison in Saudi Arabia we were able to cooperate with the monarchy in the 2000s to curtail the Wahabbis.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (okun6)
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Everyone talks that bullshit about our two parties meeting in the middle at their endpoints (due to a misidentification between America and the persistent historic Euro infatuation with authoritarianism) but I will say there is a definite place where they meet and shake hands, and it is Jew-hate.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (PQWix)
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Do I completely trust the Israelis? No. Do I think they have a perfect track record of behavior? No, no one does. But do I see them as our only real ally there and do I admire the military operations they can pull off? Damn right i do.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (f70Xg)
I am a balls-to-the-wall Israel fan, not least because I have a bunch of family there, and my mother was born there.
But what you say is perfectly reasonable, and is all I hope for in America.
Posted by: UGAdawg at June 17, 2025 03:16 PM (f70Xg)
I am a balls-to-the-wall Israel fan, not least because I have a bunch of family there, and my mother was born there.
But what you say is perfectly reasonable, and is all I hope for in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (L5An7)
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Don't even joke about that. You go after my Irish Redheads and there will be hell to pay.
Posted by: ...
Busty ✔️ Leggy ✔️ Pale ✔️ Insane 💯 https://tinyurl.com/2ac3dz64
But, I mean, you can always make an exception...right?
Posted by: ...
Busty ✔️ Leggy ✔️ Pale ✔️ Insane 💯 https://tinyurl.com/2ac3dz64
But, I mean, you can always make an exception...right?
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)
242
Trump's base may not desert him, but Trump's base didn't get him elected. It was the other 10-15%, like Hispanics, black men, and generally people who looked at the Democratic party as lunatics, who got him over the line. Lose them by fucking up the economy, losing the deportation battle, and/or committing them and their kids to another ME war, and it's basically over for his agenda. That's what people are concerned about; not sparing Iran from the beating they deserve.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (MZ+PY)
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232 Israel has already done all of the hard work. They're ready to fall, right now. So does anyone seriously think Trump will become unpopular for winning one of the most overwhelming and one sided victories in US History? Really? Really? Well sit on the sidelines and watch and see how it plays out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (uWKK
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I kind of doubt outright American involvement is required to get the fall.
Sustained background support to keep Israel supplied while it tears apart Iran's anti-aircraft and nuclear infrastructure, as much as possible from the air, yes, but not even one direct fire of a missile from us.
If Iran is already seeing thousands of political prisoners streaming out of jails after just a couple of days, this is not a regime long for this world without a lifeline. It's in the process of collapse. And the longer it goes on, the more brazen Israel can become and the more emboldened internal resistance can grow.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:28 PM (uWKK
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I kind of doubt outright American involvement is required to get the fall.
Sustained background support to keep Israel supplied while it tears apart Iran's anti-aircraft and nuclear infrastructure, as much as possible from the air, yes, but not even one direct fire of a missile from us.
If Iran is already seeing thousands of political prisoners streaming out of jails after just a couple of days, this is not a regime long for this world without a lifeline. It's in the process of collapse. And the longer it goes on, the more brazen Israel can become and the more emboldened internal resistance can grow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)
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Could the IDF take out the toughest nuclear site with ground troops?
Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?
If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?
If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
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Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)
If "what" is going to be the Republican foreign policy.
"Getting involved"?
A bit simplistic, no?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)
If "what" is going to be the Republican foreign policy.
"Getting involved"?
A bit simplistic, no?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (E0p3T)
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Horde status check:
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[] not on fire
[] on fire
Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical
Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire
Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical
Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (6YdsJ)
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13 Tucker is convinced that he called off an attack on Iran during the first Trump term. Maybe he did. But since then he’s been under the mistaken notion that he calls Trump’s foreign policy. Which, thankfully, he doesn’t.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)
Tucker probably faces east every morning and commands the Sun to rise. Clearly he's calling the shots...
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at June 17, 2025 02:53 PM (f7GkW)
Tucker probably faces east every morning and commands the Sun to rise. Clearly he's calling the shots...
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (hOOi9)
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Even the French are coming.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (P9gC0)
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I greatly appreciate how tough-minded Trump is. The media is lying when they characterize him as erratic. He has a clear vision and a true moral compass and he is going to do what is right.
I love and admire that man.
I love and admire that man.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (rF2iL)
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Fordow is irrelevant anyway if you just keep killing enough of the assholes that they fill the hole back in themselves out of sheer terror.
Make 'em bust their own bunker.
Make 'em bust their own bunker.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (BcT2b)
251
Kanye West fucked Candace's brains out until she turned into a full-on Nazi Bitch who could put Leni Riefenstahl to shame.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (uWKK8)
252
Summary of my opinion about Trump: US Trump. The Mullahs, with help from Bath House Barry, squeezed this turd onto his plate. There never was any doubt how he would respond when it got down to the proverbial brass tacks. This is why I voted for him, he does not disappoint. Greatest president since Lincoln.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (m7pre)
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223 That's where I am. What did we develop a Massive Ordnance Penetrator for? Just drop it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
Call it a Test Drive.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (NHiEn)
Maybe do a live test of a circumnavigation fully loaded B2 bomb run and it sorta falls off the truck or something
Whoops whoopsies..
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Sell it to Israel and lend them the plane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu
Call it a Test Drive.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (NHiEn)
Maybe do a live test of a circumnavigation fully loaded B2 bomb run and it sorta falls off the truck or something
Whoops whoopsies..
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:31 PM (OA79/)
254
I will buy you a garden
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.
Was that Everclear?
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.
Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)
255
Interesting. We haven't had a Musk, X, free speech, or strong empowered girlboss AG post in a while, have we?
Elon Musk’s social media company X Corp reportedly sued New York Attorney General Letitia James in Manhattan federal court on Tuesday, saying the state’s "Stop Hiding Hate" law tramples the First Amendment by forcing platforms to reveal how they police user speech.
The legislation, modeled after a now-revised California bill, requires large social networks to publish their content moderation rules and file twice-yearly reports to the attorney general detailing "hate speech" removals, "disinformation" takedowns and other enforcement actions. X argues the disclosures mandate mirrors the California law a federal appeals court.
https://tinyurl.com/bpafvbc2
Elon Musk’s social media company X Corp reportedly sued New York Attorney General Letitia James in Manhattan federal court on Tuesday, saying the state’s "Stop Hiding Hate" law tramples the First Amendment by forcing platforms to reveal how they police user speech.
The legislation, modeled after a now-revised California bill, requires large social networks to publish their content moderation rules and file twice-yearly reports to the attorney general detailing "hate speech" removals, "disinformation" takedowns and other enforcement actions. X argues the disclosures mandate mirrors the California law a federal appeals court.
https://tinyurl.com/bpafvbc2
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (iFTx/)
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His father was a producer for ABC News.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (6ydKt)
His father was almost definitely involved with the CIA. And as Putin pointed out pointedly in the interview with Carlson - Tucker also tried to join the cia.
I dont know why anyone cares what that deep state scion thinks. Whatever he thinks today will change next week if history is any judge.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:25 PM (6ydKt)
His father was almost definitely involved with the CIA. And as Putin pointed out pointedly in the interview with Carlson - Tucker also tried to join the cia.
I dont know why anyone cares what that deep state scion thinks. Whatever he thinks today will change next week if history is any judge.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zuAlv)
257
eleven. He did indeed say that.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (DLqye)
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225 And now a message from Prince Pahlavi to the people of Iran:
https://tinyurl.com/ywrde99v
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (n+rGF)
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If what he's saying can happen that would be the best possible outcome at this point.
https://tinyurl.com/ywrde99v
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:26 PM (n+rGF)
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If what he's saying can happen that would be the best possible outcome at this point.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (6ydKt)
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Why did we elect Trump and not Jeb! If this going to be the republican foreign policy?
Jeb would have at least kept dick Cheney in the republican camp.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)
Brainless binary thinking.
Put the bong down, kick out the other sophomores in your dorm room, sober up, and then read some books.
Jeb would have at least kept dick Cheney in the republican camp.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM (zuAlv)
Brainless binary thinking.
Put the bong down, kick out the other sophomores in your dorm room, sober up, and then read some books.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (L5An7)
260
But, I mean, you can always make an exception...right?
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)
What worries me dearly is how many pics you trawl through that you *don't* post. I don't even get to the why...
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)
What worries me dearly is how many pics you trawl through that you *don't* post. I don't even get to the why...
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (E0p3T)
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I mean we went after Iraq really at the behest of Iran!
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
Iraq/Saddam's government was being taken over by Salafists, which are Islamic radicals like the Wahabbis.
Does everyone forget the year run up to the war where the reasons were laid out . In addition to having actual legislation during the Clinton administration that outlined what would justify military action against Iraq.
at the time I was like "why Iraq specifically? the terrorists had zero connection ...?"
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 17, 2025 03:15 PM (Pv3Rg)
Iraq/Saddam's government was being taken over by Salafists, which are Islamic radicals like the Wahabbis.
Does everyone forget the year run up to the war where the reasons were laid out . In addition to having actual legislation during the Clinton administration that outlined what would justify military action against Iraq.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:33 PM (VofaG)
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His father was CIA.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (PQWix)
Well that tracks, since legacy media is pretty much an op.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (PQWix)
Well that tracks, since legacy media is pretty much an op.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:33 PM (PFbvp)
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Everyone talks that bullshit about our two parties meeting in the middle at their endpoints (due to a misidentification between America and the persistent historic Euro infatuation with authoritarianism) but I will say there is a definite place where they meet and shake hands, and it is Jew-hate.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM
Yep. I don't get it. I left Gateway this am, way to many Jew bashing idiots over there. For the record. I am not Jewish (proudly a flawed Christian) But I stand with them. I don't always agree with them, but hell, I don't agree with my wife all the time either.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:29 PM
Yep. I don't get it. I left Gateway this am, way to many Jew bashing idiots over there. For the record. I am not Jewish (proudly a flawed Christian) But I stand with them. I don't always agree with them, but hell, I don't agree with my wife all the time either.
Posted by: Minnfidel at June 17, 2025 03:33 PM (ewjUl)
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But apparently when Trump said this over and over and over again, the hyper-isolationists all heard him saying, "I promise I will pursue Barack Obama's Iran policy and help Iran get a nuclear bomb. And also, again like Barack Obama, when Iran's regime is fatally threatened, I will step in to save it."
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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
This is the Democrats/WEF(?) stupid 6 Great Equal Powers Control the World Nonsense....like Rollerball's premise only with socialist monkeys instead of corporations and stupider. And no cool sports.
Iran is to be the Big Daddy Power in their neck of the woods.
Madeline Albright's been spewing this silliness along with the DNC since Preezy Clinton was in office.
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"I want Mullah controlled Iran to be a hegemon in the Middle East," feels like something an insane person would say.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)
This is the Democrats/WEF(?) stupid 6 Great Equal Powers Control the World Nonsense....like Rollerball's premise only with socialist monkeys instead of corporations and stupider. And no cool sports.
Iran is to be the Big Daddy Power in their neck of the woods.
Madeline Albright's been spewing this silliness along with the DNC since Preezy Clinton was in office.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (iJfKG)
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The hyper-isolationists are threatening that Trump doing the things Trump has repeatedly promised to do would "fracture the base." This is their threat that they'll abandon and oppose Trump.
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Pretty sure The Lincoln Project has desk space...
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Pretty sure The Lincoln Project has desk space...
Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (Bhsk7)
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246 Horde status check:
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Tits:
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Jets:
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[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (6YdsJ)
You forgot
Concern:
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[ ] Not Notes
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[] on fire
Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical
Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (6YdsJ)
You forgot
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Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (Mxf84)
267
Yeah, Iran cannot have the bomb and our own intelligence said they did not have it. To go from the no war president to this with the world on the edge feels like betrayal. I don't care what Israel does, they started it they can finish it. Hopefully it all works out but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)
268
Didn't Carlson have a meltdown about Trump starting s world war with North Korea?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (kTd/k)
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Zineb Riboua
@zriboua
U.S. interests in the Middle East are simple: secure oil, safe shipping, no terrorism, no nukes. Israel helps deliver all four. Obsessing over Israeli domestic politics and Netanyahu misses the strategic point, and it’s usually done intentionally to advance an anti-US agenda.
Zineb Riboua
@zriboua
U.S. interests in the Middle East are simple: secure oil, safe shipping, no terrorism, no nukes. Israel helps deliver all four. Obsessing over Israeli domestic politics and Netanyahu misses the strategic point, and it’s usually done intentionally to advance an anti-US agenda.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (TGPs7)
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267 Yeah, Iran cannot have the bomb and our own intelligence said they did not have it. To go from the no war president to this with the world on the edge feels like betrayal. I don't care what Israel does, they started it they can finish it. Hopefully it all works out but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)
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The IAEA said, the day before Israel started bombing, that Iran was out of compliance with limitations on uranium enrichment.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)
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The IAEA said, the day before Israel started bombing, that Iran was out of compliance with limitations on uranium enrichment.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)
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I dont know why anyone cares what that deep state scion thinks. Whatever he thinks today will change next week if history is any judge.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zuAlv)
I've watched one or two interviews Tucker did over the last two years or so, whenever it was he left Fox.
His opinion doesn't really mean much these days.
But I'm amused that Tucker's name was mentioned as vice-presidential candidate for a time last year.
That tide has definitely turned.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zuAlv)
I've watched one or two interviews Tucker did over the last two years or so, whenever it was he left Fox.
His opinion doesn't really mean much these days.
But I'm amused that Tucker's name was mentioned as vice-presidential candidate for a time last year.
That tide has definitely turned.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (6ydKt)
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>>Does everyone forget the year run up to the war
Yes.
Literally, from the instant it happened. It has never been discussed again.
Only, Muh YellowCakes!
Yes.
Literally, from the instant it happened. It has never been discussed again.
Only, Muh YellowCakes!
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (uZ2FS)
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If "what" is going to be the Republican foreign policy.
"Getting involved"?
A bit simplistic, no?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (E0p3T)
Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.
That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
"Getting involved"?
A bit simplistic, no?
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (E0p3T)
Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.
That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)
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Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)
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If Trump uses the Bunker Buster in Iran, I will definitely blow my wad in my gym short from the Testosterone Burst without Blue Chew !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:35 PM (BltCC)
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Not sure at this point who lives in a bigger fantasy land.
The Democrats or the Tucker Carlson wing of the GOPes.
The Democrats or the Tucker Carlson wing of the GOPes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (Ar3gH)
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I kind of doubt outright American involvement is required to get the fall.
Sustained background support to keep Israel supplied while it tears apart Iran's anti-aircraft and nuclear infrastructure, as much as possible from the air, yes, but not even one direct fire of a missile from us.
If Iran is already seeing thousands of political prisoners streaming out of jails after just a couple of days, this is not a regime long for this world without a lifeline. It's in the process of collapse. And the longer it goes on, the more brazen Israel can become and the more emboldened internal resistance can grow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)
I agree - the Regime is cracking already, and I don't think US involvement is necessary. If it was my choice, I probably would forbear.
BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Sustained background support to keep Israel supplied while it tears apart Iran's anti-aircraft and nuclear infrastructure, as much as possible from the air, yes, but not even one direct fire of a missile from us.
If Iran is already seeing thousands of political prisoners streaming out of jails after just a couple of days, this is not a regime long for this world without a lifeline. It's in the process of collapse. And the longer it goes on, the more brazen Israel can become and the more emboldened internal resistance can grow.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)
I agree - the Regime is cracking already, and I don't think US involvement is necessary. If it was my choice, I probably would forbear.
BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK8)
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254 I will buy you a garden
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.
Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)
Yes, New Life by Everclear.
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.
Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)
Yes, New Life by Everclear.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (v2VfP)
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I am a balls-to-the-wall Israel fan, not least because I have a bunch of family there, and my mother was born there.
But what you say is perfectly reasonable, and is all I hope for in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (L5An7)
I am more isolationist than most here... not because I want a total pull back of US forces, but because I think we are way over deployed and getting into fights that don't actually help us.
THIS however, is one fight we've been in since the late 70's... and we need to finish it so we don't have to keep going back again and again.
One MAJOR problem I have with US Policy, is that the Military goes out and wins the Fights, then the Politicians squander the Victory.... From Viet Nam on... it's been the Pattern, consistently.
If we are going to fight.. fight all out and end it.... or don't start the damn fight in the first place.
But what you say is perfectly reasonable, and is all I hope for in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (L5An7)
I am more isolationist than most here... not because I want a total pull back of US forces, but because I think we are way over deployed and getting into fights that don't actually help us.
THIS however, is one fight we've been in since the late 70's... and we need to finish it so we don't have to keep going back again and again.
One MAJOR problem I have with US Policy, is that the Military goes out and wins the Fights, then the Politicians squander the Victory.... From Viet Nam on... it's been the Pattern, consistently.
If we are going to fight.. fight all out and end it.... or don't start the damn fight in the first place.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (mP0Kj)
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Once Trump oversees the dismantling of the Mullah regime and bring peace to the Middle East, much to the dismay of libs everywhere, he will focus on Russia-Ukraine. He will convince the Ukrainians to get back to the table and negotiate a peace.
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Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)
You are a horrible human being (or Mon Calamari), and there is a special place in hell for you.
You are a horrible human being (or Mon Calamari), and there is a special place in hell for you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (L5An7)
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244 Could the IDF take out the toughest nuclear site with ground troops?
Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?
If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I was thinking like this. Basically build a forward operating base right out front of the doors and aim all your artillery and slpodey flyboy stuff back at the rest of Iran. Just keep blasting the blast doors with shaped charges until you are in. I can't imagine that Iran is in a position to mount any sort of organized counterattack.
Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?
If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I was thinking like this. Basically build a forward operating base right out front of the doors and aim all your artillery and slpodey flyboy stuff back at the rest of Iran. Just keep blasting the blast doors with shaped charges until you are in. I can't imagine that Iran is in a position to mount any sort of organized counterattack.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (OA79/)
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Brainless binary thinking.
Put the bong down, kick out the other sophomores in your dorm room, sober up, and then read some books.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (L5An7)
Perhaps not as gentle as I was going to say.
I am looking at the players here. Who is giving Trump grief, who isn't, yada yada. It's very difficult for me to see that a Trump who hates the GOPe and has significant power over it would roll over for them.
Put the bong down, kick out the other sophomores in your dorm room, sober up, and then read some books.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:32 PM (L5An7)
Perhaps not as gentle as I was going to say.
I am looking at the players here. Who is giving Trump grief, who isn't, yada yada. It's very difficult for me to see that a Trump who hates the GOPe and has significant power over it would roll over for them.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (aqrdH)
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Lot of so called right wing influencers got drunk on the Qatari grift money
We know who they are.
We know who they are.
Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Modkf)
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>>Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.
>>That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
I guess it all depends on whether you believe we've ever not been at war with Iran over the last 40+ years.
>>That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
I guess it all depends on whether you believe we've ever not been at war with Iran over the last 40+ years.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (PQWix)
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All I want to know is what is the dividing line between the USA and Israel foreign policy?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (tn3dm)
I'm okay with US Marines looting and then burning the al-Aqsa Mosque
Too soon?
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (tn3dm)
I'm okay with US Marines looting and then burning the al-Aqsa Mosque
Too soon?
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (H7kgD)
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Afghanistan's debacle turned me into a dove on fighting pointless wars overseas. To the point I'm now to the left of the "Ukraine uber alles!" commie peaceniks. The last thing I want is a land war in Iran. I don't want any more of our solder's blood spilled there. They've paid enough.
But, if world events like stopping WW3 force us to act, Trump is the ONLY president -- including the stuttering lead-from-behind, drone curious Obama -- who will do so with restraint when necessary, instead of letting the neocon and liberalhawk pigdogs slobber over and dictate unending war. He was the only one to have no new wars started under his watch; if he can, I think he wants a repeat this term. But we MUST lead through strength.
I worry though, that if any war started by Trump isn't ended during his term, it will never be. So let any wars he must start be swift, brutal, and short.
But, if world events like stopping WW3 force us to act, Trump is the ONLY president -- including the stuttering lead-from-behind, drone curious Obama -- who will do so with restraint when necessary, instead of letting the neocon and liberalhawk pigdogs slobber over and dictate unending war. He was the only one to have no new wars started under his watch; if he can, I think he wants a repeat this term. But we MUST lead through strength.
I worry though, that if any war started by Trump isn't ended during his term, it will never be. So let any wars he must start be swift, brutal, and short.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Eng1Z)
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I heard cruise missiles have been launched now by US ships. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)
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244 Could the IDF take out the toughest nuclear site with ground troops?
Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?
If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Does total air supremacy mean the Iranians cannot shoot down Israeli fighters, but they might still retain the capability to shoot down lumbering troop transports?
If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
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277 I agree - the Regime is cracking already, and I don't think US involvement is necessary. If it was my choice, I probably would forbear.
BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK
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I believe Trump, based on his actions, does not want sustained American involvement in anything and understands the slippery slope of getting too involved.
Plus, you know, Israel is showing every sign of being in control of the situation in Iran.
Where they need help most urgently is probably refilling Iron Dome munitions.
BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK
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I believe Trump, based on his actions, does not want sustained American involvement in anything and understands the slippery slope of getting too involved.
Plus, you know, Israel is showing every sign of being in control of the situation in Iran.
Where they need help most urgently is probably refilling Iron Dome munitions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)
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It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)
Similar deal with Egypt nationalizing the Suez Canal and blockading all Israel-bound ship traffic in the Straits of Tiran (in total violation of international maritime law) in '56, just to be dicks.
When Eisenhower put the screws to the Limeys and the Frogs to leave Egypt after kicking gyppo ass, that qualifies as one of the few fuck-ups of his administration.
It was nice of them to elect people who wanted to keep the oil money but it kind of ignores the fact that Iran made a deal with the Brits for BP to find and develop the oil fields because Iran had no idea how to do it in exchange for part of the proceeds. Then Iran had a change of heart after the oil was found.
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2025 03:21 PM (uZ2FS)
Similar deal with Egypt nationalizing the Suez Canal and blockading all Israel-bound ship traffic in the Straits of Tiran (in total violation of international maritime law) in '56, just to be dicks.
When Eisenhower put the screws to the Limeys and the Frogs to leave Egypt after kicking gyppo ass, that qualifies as one of the few fuck-ups of his administration.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (y9nCu)
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268 Didn't Carlson have a meltdown about Trump starting s world war with North Korea?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (kTd/k)
Eff him and his screechy bogus laugh straight to H.e.l.l.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (kTd/k)
Eff him and his screechy bogus laugh straight to H.e.l.l.
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (PFbvp)
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Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.
That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)
Have you noticed how often what "seems" to be happening with or around Trump very often isn't, sometimes as little as 48 hours, or as much as several months later?
At least be honest enough to say you're willing to see if this leads to either peace through strength, or ground troops in Iran.
That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)
Have you noticed how often what "seems" to be happening with or around Trump very often isn't, sometimes as little as 48 hours, or as much as several months later?
At least be honest enough to say you're willing to see if this leads to either peace through strength, or ground troops in Iran.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (E0p3T)
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If we are going to fight.. fight all out and end it.... or don't start the damn fight in the first place.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (mP0Kj)
And then get the hell out!
100% in agreement.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (mP0Kj)
And then get the hell out!
100% in agreement.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (L5An7)
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Cannot say enough how refreshing it is to read here today. Always funny and I laugh like a junior high boy. But today, reading elsewhere that some believe the hype that President Trump is causing war, entering war, sleeping with war, is enough to make me sprout horns.
I am a pretty smart former supermodel. Even I can see the MSM hype, read snippits of X hype for division. I greet this all with disgusted derision. I spit in their general direction.
The Loomers or similar of the X phere are to blame. Because SHE ALONE knows what to do and what is going on. I suggest she have a respite after a much needed rhinoplasty. Needed for cosmetic reasons and sticking her proboscis into matters she should not, for hysterical clicking of, and I am judging here, old wimmen who read X as if it was the authority and straight from the White House Situation Room.
I feel a bit bitchy today on the subject. I love you all, and Ace is the dude.
I am a pretty smart former supermodel. Even I can see the MSM hype, read snippits of X hype for division. I greet this all with disgusted derision. I spit in their general direction.
The Loomers or similar of the X phere are to blame. Because SHE ALONE knows what to do and what is going on. I suggest she have a respite after a much needed rhinoplasty. Needed for cosmetic reasons and sticking her proboscis into matters she should not, for hysterical clicking of, and I am judging here, old wimmen who read X as if it was the authority and straight from the White House Situation Room.
I feel a bit bitchy today on the subject. I love you all, and Ace is the dude.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (6PCLE)
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BUT I can also see how Trump would feel it would give him an incredible boost in "street cred" if he jumps in and delivers the Coup de Grace with one overwhelming blow. Next time he's in a room with Putin, he can just sit there and say "heh heh heh, did you see what I did? One punch and out!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK
Nope, for one main reason. DC believes in the concept of 'if you broke it, you bought it'... we would end up occupying Iran for years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:36 PM (uWKK
Nope, for one main reason. DC believes in the concept of 'if you broke it, you bought it'... we would end up occupying Iran for years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (e/Osv)
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Trump never said he would go to war with Iran to stop them from getting the bomb. Trump never said he would go to war with Iran if Israel started a war with Iran. Trump did say Gaza would never have happened he said Ukraine would never have happened. The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
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"I will buy you a garden
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.
Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD "
Pretty sure that was 50 cent.
Where your flowers can bloom.
I will buy you a new house
Bright, shiny and new.
Was that Everclear?
Posted by: Aetius451AD "
Pretty sure that was 50 cent.
Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (fV+MH)
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I don't care what Israel does, they started it they can finish it.
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That's a blinkered reading of history if you believe Israel "started it".
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That's a blinkered reading of history if you believe Israel "started it".
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (TN0g+)
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Horde status check:
Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire
Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical
Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious
Horde status check:
Hair:
not on fire
Tits:
calm
Jets:
cool
Hair:
[] not on fire
[] on fire
Tits:
[] calm
[] hysterical
Jets:
[] cool
[] flaming with RAGE!
Posted by: Captain Obvious
Horde status check:
Hair:
not on fire
Tits:
calm
Jets:
cool
Posted by: rickb223 at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (PfGa7)
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TBF to Trump, he has said Iran can’t have a nuke.
It also doesn’t mean that we have to like it and can voice our opinion stating as such.
It also doesn’t mean that we have to like it and can voice our opinion stating as such.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (eZwyX)
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"Here's to short bloody wars and sickly seasons."
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (Ar3gH)
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Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........
Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................
Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)
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1000% This.
Konstantin Kisin 2:04 PM Jun 16, 2025
Joking aside, the reason the online isolationists are having such a meltdown is actually not even that they are “anti-war”. Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they’re so upset.
The reason they have been able to maintain this illusion in their minds despite the fact that President Trump has always been pro-Israel and a hawk on Iran is that the illusion was flattering to them.
Thousands and thousands of likes on their posts about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII and Israel is the root of all evil went to their head. They thought they had power. The thought they had influence. And now that they’ve realized they don’t they’re calling for Trump to be impeached
My thoughts and prayers are with them at this difficult time.
Konstantin Kisin 2:04 PM Jun 16, 2025
Joking aside, the reason the online isolationists are having such a meltdown is actually not even that they are “anti-war”. Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they’re so upset.
The reason they have been able to maintain this illusion in their minds despite the fact that President Trump has always been pro-Israel and a hawk on Iran is that the illusion was flattering to them.
Thousands and thousands of likes on their posts about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII and Israel is the root of all evil went to their head. They thought they had power. The thought they had influence. And now that they’ve realized they don’t they’re calling for Trump to be impeached
My thoughts and prayers are with them at this difficult time.
Posted by: Cheri at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (oiNtH)
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When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator
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I'm not sure where you came from, but please feel free to go back there.
Posted by: Whirligiginator
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I'm not sure where you came from, but please feel free to go back there.
Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (TN0g+)
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I could give a fuck about some line between Israel and Americas foreign policies. Why do we have to tip-toe around a bunch of whiney cnts? How many Americans have them cocksuckers murdered with IED's in Iraq and terorism? Israel delivered a blow that knocked them on their ass now we need to deliver a kick to the head with a steel toe boot to finish these pricks off. IDGAF if it's a nuke or some other bomb that drives a stake through their nuclear programs heart. Good lord we're a bunch of sniveling pussies even on our side. No boots on ground. Give Israel a bomb(s) and rent them a plane. Put the Star of David on the f'ing plane and shove a bomb up their ass.
Posted by: JROD at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (IlL6s)
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Do you cut the red wire first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)
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What the Israelis have pulled of is nothing short of brilliant. They're pretty sharp, for sure, and they apparently had cooperation from people within Iran who can't stand the Islamists, but I have to wonder if the US military wasn't heavily involved in planning this.
From what I hear, the US has moved B-52s capable of dropping bunker busters to Diego Garcia, and a whole bunch of refueling tankers to the area. So if Trump decides it's necessary to use that stuff, we're ready.
Nobody is going to genuinely complain when the evil regime in Iran is finally gone, and we finally see peace in the Middle East. It reminds me of when the Berlin Wall fell - something I thought I would never see. Like the USSR, the Iranian regime is fragile, and just needs a little push.
Trump's recent commentary means "Ace was right", BTW. This is a for-real war, and Israel (and Trump) mean to end this threat once and for all.
Somebody also commented that something mind-blowing was in store on Thursday/Friday. You can't tell me the US military isn't in on this.
From what I hear, the US has moved B-52s capable of dropping bunker busters to Diego Garcia, and a whole bunch of refueling tankers to the area. So if Trump decides it's necessary to use that stuff, we're ready.
Nobody is going to genuinely complain when the evil regime in Iran is finally gone, and we finally see peace in the Middle East. It reminds me of when the Berlin Wall fell - something I thought I would never see. Like the USSR, the Iranian regime is fragile, and just needs a little push.
Trump's recent commentary means "Ace was right", BTW. This is a for-real war, and Israel (and Trump) mean to end this threat once and for all.
Somebody also commented that something mind-blowing was in store on Thursday/Friday. You can't tell me the US military isn't in on this.
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (hOOi9)
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If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
/Nods
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
/Nods
Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (mP0Kj)
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Trump said he was going to end the wars and reign in the deep state.
That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)
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I tend not to get into arguments that involve hotbutton issues that divide even conservatives, like Israel, generational shit-throwing, and whether Michele Obama has a dick.
But I think I see the disconnect here. Trump is not starting this war or "getting involved" in this war. The war pre-exists him, has for decades, and we have been "involved" -- usually on the wrong side -- for decades. Trump is trying to finally end this war.
That does not seem to be what is happening right now does it? We seem to be getting involved in more wars by the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (zuAlv)
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I tend not to get into arguments that involve hotbutton issues that divide even conservatives, like Israel, generational shit-throwing, and whether Michele Obama has a dick.
But I think I see the disconnect here. Trump is not starting this war or "getting involved" in this war. The war pre-exists him, has for decades, and we have been "involved" -- usually on the wrong side -- for decades. Trump is trying to finally end this war.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
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Give a listen to what Pahlavi said. There will no US troops on the ground.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (DLqye)
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304 Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........
Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)
I got something to say...
Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)
I got something to say...
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (e/Osv)
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and yes, Bravo, Ace!
I vote for Moar Of This, every day!
I vote for Moar Of This, every day!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (/Ghsb)
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308 Do you cut the red wire first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)
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"No the green one."
"But I'm color blind!"
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)
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"No the green one."
"But I'm color blind!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)
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I think this is something that had to be done (since the 80's probably), but also realize the following years I fear what is going to be done is wasted billions being sent to Iran to prop up a new regime.
If it was bomb it and forget it, I would be ok, but I think the chance of that is zero.
If it was bomb it and forget it, I would be ok, but I think the chance of that is zero.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (rvwwT)
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The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
And the people worrying about how terrible this is will be in the corner licking their own assholes in a few weeks when Iran is free and the threat of the Ayatollah's is gone forever.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
And the people worrying about how terrible this is will be in the corner licking their own assholes in a few weeks when Iran is free and the threat of the Ayatollah's is gone forever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (uWKK8)
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I heard cruise missiles have been launched now by US ships. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)
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Got it from an anonymous source but so far can't pick it up anywhere else. Boulder of salt.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)
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Got it from an anonymous source but so far can't pick it up anywhere else. Boulder of salt.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (n+rGF)
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When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM
I disagree.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM
I disagree.
Posted by: toby928 nullifies your vote at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (jc0TO)
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Wonder what name Tucker Carson would use when he comes here?
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (ry0b8)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (/Ghsb)
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Can the little bitches so concerned about boots on the ground shut the fuck up. It's not going to happen. No one is calling for that (well Lindsay Graham, but she's weird)
Posted by: Big Star at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (Modkf)
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Loveshack over Texas.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (P9gC0)
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281 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (JCZqz)
You are a horrible human being (or Mon Calamari), and there is a special place in hell for you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
What's sexier than 1 Irish girl? 2 Irish girls! That are siblings! I mean, with all those multipliers, how many points does both of them being trans REALLY deduct? It Pride Month! Lol...
You are a horrible human being (or Mon Calamari), and there is a special place in hell for you.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
What's sexier than 1 Irish girl? 2 Irish girls! That are siblings! I mean, with all those multipliers, how many points does both of them being trans REALLY deduct? It Pride Month! Lol...
Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (JCZqz)
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>>The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.
The isolationist types might have a different view if an Iranian nuke blew up in their faces.
Israel is Little Satan. We are Great Satan. They hate us even more than they hate Israel. Saying Iran having a nuke doesn't affect us is ludicrous. The leading state sponsor of terror in the world with nukes affects the entire world.
The isolationist types might have a different view if an Iranian nuke blew up in their faces.
Israel is Little Satan. We are Great Satan. They hate us even more than they hate Israel. Saying Iran having a nuke doesn't affect us is ludicrous. The leading state sponsor of terror in the world with nukes affects the entire world.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (PQWix)
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Absolutely. But there are repercussions to overthrowing governments and installing brutal dictators.
A lesson the US and our retarded European allies seem incapable of learning.
Or if youre a cynical type you might think they know exactly what theyre doing and its by design to keep the money flowing to the military industrial complex / deep state.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (zuAlv)
Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.
A lesson the US and our retarded European allies seem incapable of learning.
Or if youre a cynical type you might think they know exactly what theyre doing and its by design to keep the money flowing to the military industrial complex / deep state.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (zuAlv)
Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)
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Trump would not be tweeting all of this if he wasn't already in the process of revving up the Bunker Busters.
Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
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At least be honest enough to say you're willing to see if this leads to either peace through strength, or ground troops in Iran.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (E0p3T)
My hair is not on fire because of trumps statements. I agree that this could all work out.
What is pissing me off is people trying to gaslight Trump voters about what trumps own statements about endless wars meant.
Trump is on the edge of betraying a not insignificant number of his voters with his actions so far with Iran. To act like thats not the case and to insult anyone who says "wait a second this isnt what we sign up for" is insulting.
To say hey lets focus on the domestic issues that trump ran on instead of feeding the military industrial complex and get told that youre brain dead and antisemetic for holding those views is very dishonest and insulting.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (E0p3T)
My hair is not on fire because of trumps statements. I agree that this could all work out.
What is pissing me off is people trying to gaslight Trump voters about what trumps own statements about endless wars meant.
Trump is on the edge of betraying a not insignificant number of his voters with his actions so far with Iran. To act like thats not the case and to insult anyone who says "wait a second this isnt what we sign up for" is insulting.
To say hey lets focus on the domestic issues that trump ran on instead of feeding the military industrial complex and get told that youre brain dead and antisemetic for holding those views is very dishonest and insulting.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)
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316 I think this is something that had to be done (since the 80's probably), but also realize the following years I fear what is going to be done is wasted billions being sent to Iran to prop up a new regime.
If it was bomb it and forget it, I would be ok, but I think the chance of that is zero.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (rvwwT)
No need - they have incredible oil revenue, which up til now has all been wasted creating jihadi armies in Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen. Just let it stay in Iran and they're rich.
If it was bomb it and forget it, I would be ok, but I think the chance of that is zero.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (rvwwT)
No need - they have incredible oil revenue, which up til now has all been wasted creating jihadi armies in Lebanon, Gaza, and Yemen. Just let it stay in Iran and they're rich.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (uWKK8)
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288 I heard cruise missiles have been launched now by US ships. Stay tuned.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)
Where? is this posted? I don't need a link like I am a shrill harpie, as I am capable of looking. Thanks.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (n+rGF)
Where? is this posted? I don't need a link like I am a shrill harpie, as I am capable of looking. Thanks.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (6PCLE)
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Posted by: JROD at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (IlL6s)
Then why have any dividing line between any foreign policy? I get your point, but it seems extremely short sighted.
Then why have any dividing line between any foreign policy? I get your point, but it seems extremely short sighted.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (eZwyX)
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>>They both start with T. Close enough!
T FOR TEXAS :
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=SY63KTMrkTM
T FOR TEXAS :
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=SY63KTMrkTM
Posted by: LYNYRD SKYNYRD at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (uZ2FS)
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Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (mP0Kj)
Name a major conflict where that wasn't the case? Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.
Admittedly I think muslim countries can be defeated in war but not in peace.
Name a major conflict where that wasn't the case? Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.
Admittedly I think muslim countries can be defeated in war but not in peace.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
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BETTER THEN BURNOUT !!!!!!!!!
313 304 Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........
Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)
I got something to say...
BETTER THEN BURNOUT !!!!!!!!!
313 304 Trump's response to the Ragshead's demand for negation's ASAP is below...........
Gunter, Gleiben, Glauchen, Globen ................
Posted by: Jack Mehoff at June 17, 2025 03:39 PM (BltCC)
I got something to say...
Posted by: Blo Jiden at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (1sBXy)
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Current events are shattering the illusion that their hot takes are representative or influential. This is why they’re so upset.
Konstantin is so smart…once again, right on point
His channel is Triggernometry, if anyone wants to check him out
Konstantin is so smart…once again, right on point
His channel is Triggernometry, if anyone wants to check him out
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (PFbvp)
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Do you cut the red wire first?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)
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Dunno. But I do know that the white zone is for loading and unloading only.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (P9gC0)
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Dunno. But I do know that the white zone is for loading and unloading only.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (6YdsJ)
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"he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them"
We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)
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298 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
1. Iran regularly calls for Death to America, the Great Satan
2. Iran has historically launched various terrorist attacks against the US and various other countries and supported military operations against the US
3. Officially they believe that a violent and explosive end to the world would usher in paradise
4. They've been working on longer distance delivery capability for a while
Iran getting a nuke is not very materially different from Al Qaeda getting a nuke. Perhaps they are modestly more restrained than Al Qaeda, but it's not clear that they are.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
1. Iran regularly calls for Death to America, the Great Satan
2. Iran has historically launched various terrorist attacks against the US and various other countries and supported military operations against the US
3. Officially they believe that a violent and explosive end to the world would usher in paradise
4. They've been working on longer distance delivery capability for a while
Iran getting a nuke is not very materially different from Al Qaeda getting a nuke. Perhaps they are modestly more restrained than Al Qaeda, but it's not clear that they are.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (okun6)
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When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us.
Israel is doing the entire world a favor. Maybe you should try to appreciate that.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us.
Israel is doing the entire world a favor. Maybe you should try to appreciate that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (L5An7)
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Code Pink/isolationist AoS posters hardest hit
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (2Rbgs)
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Recent conflicts have all been various rounds of whack-a-mole with some gaggle of shitheads stirred up by Iran. Half the dicks our guys fought in Iraq after the Ba'athists fell were just Iranian stooges of one flavor or another.
Topple the Islamic Republic, and the Forever Wars not only end, they can't be started back up again by whatever piece of shit scumbags inevitably slither into office after Trump is gone.
Just because some sour-gash retard on CNN has her War Face on and her fake accent turned up to 11 doesn't mean it's Forever Wars o'clock again.
And if lobbing some missiles at a bunch of goatfuckers over the horizon in a town that no one who can read has ever heard of is enough to get everyone's garanimals in a trefoil knot over Neo Khans, then all I can say is let's just disband the military altogether, buy ourselves some Amazon's Choice prayer rugs, and get it the fuck over with.
Topple the Islamic Republic, and the Forever Wars not only end, they can't be started back up again by whatever piece of shit scumbags inevitably slither into office after Trump is gone.
Just because some sour-gash retard on CNN has her War Face on and her fake accent turned up to 11 doesn't mean it's Forever Wars o'clock again.
And if lobbing some missiles at a bunch of goatfuckers over the horizon in a town that no one who can read has ever heard of is enough to get everyone's garanimals in a trefoil knot over Neo Khans, then all I can say is let's just disband the military altogether, buy ourselves some Amazon's Choice prayer rugs, and get it the fuck over with.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (BcT2b)
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Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
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Yeah, all we had to do is invent a portable star. Easy!
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
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Yeah, all we had to do is invent a portable star. Easy!
Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (3BwY8)
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>>>One MAJOR problem I have with US Policy, is that the Military goes out and wins the Fights, then the Politicians squander the Victory.... From Viet Nam on... it's been the Pattern, consistently.
Something ironic to consider is Vietnam was largely lost because the media turned against it. The same media slobbering over Ukraine can't easily pivot to being all anti-war. And even though they actually support Iran since it wants to tear down the US, they know they can't sell that to the plebes.
Something ironic to consider is Vietnam was largely lost because the media turned against it. The same media slobbering over Ukraine can't easily pivot to being all anti-war. And even though they actually support Iran since it wants to tear down the US, they know they can't sell that to the plebes.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (Eng1Z)
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339 When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
Yet. You hate addled anti-Semite.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
Yet. You hate addled anti-Semite.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (2Rbgs)
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292 Eff him and his screechy bogus laugh straight to H.e.l.l. - kalisto
Yes. That inane giggle, often expanding into a hysterical cackle. That always put me on my guard.
Yes. That inane giggle, often expanding into a hysterical cackle. That always put me on my guard.
Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (mADJX)
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Also, propaganda like the kind used in WW2 was banned. Obama rescinded that propaganda ban, so if Trump wanted to do war propaganda, he could.
Keep Calm and Make Iran Miniskirt Friendly Again!
Keep Calm and Make Iran Miniskirt Friendly Again!
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (Eng1Z)
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Iran getting a nuke is not very materially different from Al Qaeda getting a nuke. Perhaps they are modestly more restrained than Al Qaeda, but it's not clear that they are.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (okun6)
Good point.
And...they aren't more constrained, they just have a more complex leadership structure. Shit takes time to decide!
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (okun6)
Good point.
And...they aren't more constrained, they just have a more complex leadership structure. Shit takes time to decide!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (L5An7)
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I'd love to see a video of the B2s releasing their payloads over Fordnow. Then swooping away, banking off of the northeast wind nonchalantly.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (pMi6S)
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...The Gung ho types seemingly pumped about this conflict might change thier tunes in a few weeks if this blows up in our face. When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us. Dying for Israel is B.S.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
Israel has crippled the Iranian military, seriously damaged that nuclear program, and decapitated a large fraction of the individuals involved, in a matter of a few days, and you're worried about it blowing up in our face? Really?
"Iran having a nuclear bomb does not affect us."? Are you high?
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (fN+0V)
Israel has crippled the Iranian military, seriously damaged that nuclear program, and decapitated a large fraction of the individuals involved, in a matter of a few days, and you're worried about it blowing up in our face? Really?
"Iran having a nuclear bomb does not affect us."? Are you high?
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:45 PM (hOOi9)
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Didn't Carlson have a meltdown about Trump starting s world war with North Korea?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
I forgot about that. That was what, two or three world wars ago?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA
I forgot about that. That was what, two or three world wars ago?
Posted by: Josephistan at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (8Ee6S)
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I saw Shrieking Harpies open for Orestes and the Maenads at the Theatron in Athens in 490 BC.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (6YdsJ)
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Nood
Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (ZOk/W)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (ITkJX)
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Having been one of the boots on the ground when I was active duty I personally think we have spent way too many American lives in the middle east unless we go in loaded for bear and are allowed to *win*.
I am not against intervention in iran, they can't be allowed to become a nuclear power and they need to be stopped. I am against us sending troops with no plan for winning and no end game.
This crap of nation building we did in afghanistan and iraq should have showed us how wrong that strategy was. We need a WWII strategy, bomb the fvck out of them until they say uncle and then keep bombing them until the rubble bounces. We just spent 20 years in an endless forever war that gained us not one single thing except dead and maimed Americans.
I am not against intervention in iran, they can't be allowed to become a nuclear power and they need to be stopped. I am against us sending troops with no plan for winning and no end game.
This crap of nation building we did in afghanistan and iraq should have showed us how wrong that strategy was. We need a WWII strategy, bomb the fvck out of them until they say uncle and then keep bombing them until the rubble bounces. We just spent 20 years in an endless forever war that gained us not one single thing except dead and maimed Americans.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (e5NfL)
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Yeah, Iran cannot have the bomb and our own intelligence said they did not have it.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)
That is materially false.
Our own intelligence said they weren't "currently building a bomb," but that their enrichment capacity and efforts had no other outcome except a bomb.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 03:34 PM (fN+0V)
That is materially false.
Our own intelligence said they weren't "currently building a bomb," but that their enrichment capacity and efforts had no other outcome except a bomb.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (lHAAk)
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But I think I see the disconnect here. Trump is not starting this war or "getting involved" in this war. The war pre-exists him, has for decades, and we have been "involved" -- usually on the wrong side -- for decades. Trump is trying to finally end this war.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
And if thats how this plays out then I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.
That said I dont have the memory of a goldfish and remember how similar situations have played out all across the Middle East and Central Asia over the last 20-30 years so lets just say im not optimistic that this time will be any different.
Is that a fair take or does that make me a pussy and a fag and whatever else people here are claiming?
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)
And if thats how this plays out then I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.
That said I dont have the memory of a goldfish and remember how similar situations have played out all across the Middle East and Central Asia over the last 20-30 years so lets just say im not optimistic that this time will be any different.
Is that a fair take or does that make me a pussy and a fag and whatever else people here are claiming?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (zuAlv)
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Got it from an anonymous source but so far can't pick it up anywhere else. Boulder of salt.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (n+rGF)
Thanks. We've shown restraint. However, I do believe in supporting Israel. I will support President Trump and to hell with the milksops who test the wind as I farht in your general direction.
I will shed no tears, angst, or irritable bowel issues if every eeslamic was wiped off the planet. Barbarians.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at June 17, 2025 03:41 PM (n+rGF)
Thanks. We've shown restraint. However, I do believe in supporting Israel. I will support President Trump and to hell with the milksops who test the wind as I farht in your general direction.
I will shed no tears, angst, or irritable bowel issues if every eeslamic was wiped off the planet. Barbarians.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (6PCLE)
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"When it comes right down to it, Iran having a bomb does not affect us.
Posted by: Whirligiginator"
More than 10 miles from here.
Posted by: Whirligiginator"
More than 10 miles from here.
Posted by: Banana Schlitz Guy at June 17, 2025 03:46 PM (vFG9F)
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327 Trump would not be tweeting all of this if he wasn't already in the process of revving up the Bunker Busters.
Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
I'm sure some judge in Colorado will put an end to this craziness!!
Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
I'm sure some judge in Colorado will put an end to this craziness!!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (A5bjg)
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333 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2025 03:38 PM (mP0Kj)
Name a major conflict where that wasn't the case? Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.
Admittedly I think muslim countries can be defeated in war but not in peace.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
Oh... how about every ACTUAL War the US has fought?
Note, we have not been in an Actual War since WW2.
Name a major conflict where that wasn't the case? Winning the peace after the war has always been more difficult than winning the war. Japan is probably the only place where that was the exception.
Admittedly I think muslim countries can be defeated in war but not in peace.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
Oh... how about every ACTUAL War the US has fought?
Note, we have not been in an Actual War since WW2.
Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (mP0Kj)
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Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)
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Similar to what we should have frankly done to the treasonous Commies here post-WWII to the current day ...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)
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Similar to what we should have frankly done to the treasonous Commies here post-WWII to the current day ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (cnpI7)
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The B-2 can perform attack missions at altitudes of up to 50,000 feet (15,000 m); it has an unrefueled range of more than 6,000 nautical miles (6,900 mi; 11,000 km) and can fly more than 10,000 nautical miles (12,000 mi; 19,000 km) with one midair refueling.
If these babies are up at 50K, then the last thing you will hear is the explosions..... Then Meet Allah !!!!
If these babies are up at 50K, then the last thing you will hear is the explosions..... Then Meet Allah !!!!
Posted by: Blo Jiden at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (q/j2W)
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...sour-gash retard...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (BcT2b)
Reason #45,916 why I love this place.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2025 03:44 PM (BcT2b)
Reason #45,916 why I love this place.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (L5An7)
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Iran has been the world's leading group of absolute fuckbags killing and sponsoring the killing of American troops since the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, and following on with decades of manufacturing and teaching the manufacturing of IEDs that killed and maimed thousands over the course of the last 30 years.
I don't want to get involved any more than we have to in Iran, but if any group of fucksticks has it coming, it's the mullahs.
I don't want to get involved any more than we have to in Iran, but if any group of fucksticks has it coming, it's the mullahs.
Posted by: ballistic at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (3BwY8)
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I worry though, that if any war started by Trump isn't ended during his term, it will never be. So let any wars he must start be swift, brutal, and short.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Eng1Z)
IF Trump will mercilessly attack and leave for dead , politically , Miss Lindsey and his/her fellow War Pigs then Trump will likely be given a pass by his uber isolationist supporters --no matter what surgical aggressive action takes after cutting off Graham. South Carolina is going to have an R Senator regardless . Graham is dispensable and should be disposed of .... politically speaking.
I worry though, that if any war started by Trump isn't ended during his term, it will never be. So let any wars he must start be swift, brutal, and short.
Posted by: LizLem at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (Eng1Z)
IF Trump will mercilessly attack and leave for dead , politically , Miss Lindsey and his/her fellow War Pigs then Trump will likely be given a pass by his uber isolationist supporters --no matter what surgical aggressive action takes after cutting off Graham. South Carolina is going to have an R Senator regardless . Graham is dispensable and should be disposed of .... politically speaking.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (FCPbW)
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (eZwyX)
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Here's a clue:
Iran believes it's on them to usher in the end of time, which precedes their messiah returning.
Now tell me again it's okay for Iran to have nukes.
Iran believes it's on them to usher in the end of time, which precedes their messiah returning.
Now tell me again it's okay for Iran to have nukes.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (A5bjg)
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I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)
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I don't know Servo, I think any new regime is going to need help in re-establishing control and I think we will be funding or participating in that. Like I said, this was a long time coming but I don't believe we'll be out of there any time soon. Yay! if I'm wrong.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (rvwwT)
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I'm tired of reading "NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND!" and "No Nation-building!" When neither have even been hinted at by the administration.
Right now a lot of Trump's critics on the right are fighting against their own straw-men. It makes me think they see all this as a political issue for clicks rather than a real situation. And almost none of the people posting these WERE boot on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan, they've just found couple of slogans that work well with their followers.
Right now a lot of Trump's critics on the right are fighting against their own straw-men. It makes me think they see all this as a political issue for clicks rather than a real situation. And almost none of the people posting these WERE boot on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan, they've just found couple of slogans that work well with their followers.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (j6Ika)
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I'm sure Halliburton will rebuild Iran all nice and pretty when everyone is done bouncing the rubble.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:49 PM (A5bjg)
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Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)
Skunks!
Wait, hear me out!
Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)
Skunks!
Wait, hear me out!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (A5bjg)
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Does this mean no more Gay Pride Day Parades in Iran for the rest of 2025 ????
Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (1sBXy)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (L5An7)
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Biggest problem with the Shah was he wasn't brutal enough to the mullahs and ayatollahs. He should have scragged every damned one of them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)
Correct...same with Tsar What's his name when he had all the commies locked up at one time or another in Russia and did not put a bullet through their heads. No Lenin, No Stalin, No Trotsky...the list goes on and on.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (0PL/v)
Correct...same with Tsar What's his name when he had all the commies locked up at one time or another in Russia and did not put a bullet through their heads. No Lenin, No Stalin, No Trotsky...the list goes on and on.
Posted by: Sands Of Time at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (/xbAD)
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Are the Dems seriously unleashing Concern Trolls again, pretending to to criticize Trump (and his supporters) from the right flank -- as if that laughable strategy hasn't been tried and hasn't failed countless times before, because it's so easily detected and easily identified? Sheesh, get a new playbook, you bozos.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)
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Sup man.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (
Heyo! Not much just living life. How are things going with you?
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (
Heyo! Not much just living life. How are things going with you?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (zuAlv)
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Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)
And that's where me and a gunny sack of grenades come in. Git up offa that thing. HEH!
Tanker trucks full of gasoline. Pull up next to the vents, stick the hose in and pump the trucks dry. Get as much fuel into the vents as you can put your hands on, then launch a thermobaric RPG round in the front door.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (y9nCu)
And that's where me and a gunny sack of grenades come in. Git up offa that thing. HEH!
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (OA79/)
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Piggy-backing off CBD's post this AM, I think if Trump used our B-2's to drop a GBU-57 on Fordow... That doesn't have to be interpreted as our declaring war on Iran any more than Trump assassinating Soleimani. Or simply counter-bombing Houthi's without sending ground troops into Yemen. If it's for a clear and limited purpose that the general public would accept (preventing Iran from developing a nuclear weapon), I think he could do it without this going to WWIII etc.
Posted by: bearski at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (Bhsk7)
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7 Trump would not be tweeting all of this if he wasn't already in the process of revving up the Bunker Busters.
Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
IOW the forecast for Iran: cloudy with a chance of Glass.
Get ready for some seismic shocks. Both physically and politically.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
IOW the forecast for Iran: cloudy with a chance of Glass.
Posted by: Voter theater. at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (FCPbW)
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)
The point of talking Trump's previous statements is that it's not a betrayal of his past positions. But if we're gonna talk betrayal, then hell, Trump is betraying ALL his voters if he signs thta asshole BBB bullshit.
The question is does it really matter? Trump is there to make America stronger and better and improve the conditions of the world that exists around it if at all possible, and most of all to stop the commies from bullshitting us all down the criminal hellhole drain. He is generally doing that and will continue to.
This idea of one thing being the end-all be-all, it's not. You had no other option in the end. None of us did. If putting Iran's nuclear ambitions upsets you so much because you or others think it only impacts *Israel*, then vote for Rand in 2028. He'll get stabbed by his commie neighbor then talk up the commies real good.
But if you think holding some red diaper fuckstain over our heads for "muh principuhls" which will involve us being in twenty more different things you and other principuhled people don't want America spending time and money on, go ahead. You will be playing yourself.
The point of talking Trump's previous statements is that it's not a betrayal of his past positions. But if we're gonna talk betrayal, then hell, Trump is betraying ALL his voters if he signs thta asshole BBB bullshit.
The question is does it really matter? Trump is there to make America stronger and better and improve the conditions of the world that exists around it if at all possible, and most of all to stop the commies from bullshitting us all down the criminal hellhole drain. He is generally doing that and will continue to.
This idea of one thing being the end-all be-all, it's not. You had no other option in the end. None of us did. If putting Iran's nuclear ambitions upsets you so much because you or others think it only impacts *Israel*, then vote for Rand in 2028. He'll get stabbed by his commie neighbor then talk up the commies real good.
But if you think holding some red diaper fuckstain over our heads for "muh principuhls" which will involve us being in twenty more different things you and other principuhled people don't want America spending time and money on, go ahead. You will be playing yourself.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (E0p3T)
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I also hope Bibi finishes off Hamas while everyone is looking the other way.
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (UjdFS)
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I also don't understand why Israel needs the excuse of Iran nukes to attack them.
Iran has been bombing and terrorizing Israel via its proxies for over 30 years. Israel has spent that time chopping off hydra heads - now that it has a chance to go straight for the body of the beast, why wouldn't it?
Iran has been bombing and terrorizing Israel via its proxies for over 30 years. Israel has spent that time chopping off hydra heads - now that it has a chance to go straight for the body of the beast, why wouldn't it?
Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (j6Ika)
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376 Are the Dems seriously unleashing Concern Trolls again, pretending to to criticize Trump (and his supporters) from the right flank -- as if that laughable strategy hasn't been tried and hasn't failed countless times before, because it's so easily detected and easily identified? Sheesh, get a new playbook, you bozos.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM
Yeah it's pretty much small dick energy.
Posted by: zombie at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM
Yeah it's pretty much small dick energy.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (OA79/)
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337 "he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them"
We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)
Exactly. And he's not going to be putting "boots on the ground". The only people who will complain about it are the Globalists (which includes the Dems and RINOs) who have been trying to start WWIII for a long time.
You guys have heard of "The Sum of All Fears", right? You know Trump has been known to play Nessun Dorma at his rallies, right? You know what the connection to the movie is, right?
We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)
Exactly. And he's not going to be putting "boots on the ground". The only people who will complain about it are the Globalists (which includes the Dems and RINOs) who have been trying to start WWIII for a long time.
You guys have heard of "The Sum of All Fears", right? You know Trump has been known to play Nessun Dorma at his rallies, right? You know what the connection to the movie is, right?
Posted by: MrExcitement at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (hOOi9)
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Will the it's OK for Iran to have a nuke guy please explain why they wouldn't use it for a threat?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (DLqye)
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Iran believes it's on them to usher in the end of time, which precedes their messiah returning.
Now tell me again it's okay for Iran to have nukes.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (A5bjg)
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Do you think some people won't believe this fact?
The true believers are nuts.
Now tell me again it's okay for Iran to have nukes.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:48 PM (A5bjg)
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Do you think some people won't believe this fact?
The true believers are nuts.
Posted by: Seems Legit at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (PMtkd)
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:42 PM (zuAlv)
The basic disconnect between you and many others here (including me) stems from a difference in starting assumptions.
Your starting assumption is that we are currently at peace with Iran and Trump is about to start a conflict.
My starting assumption is that we have been at war with Iran since 1979, and Trump is about to end the conflict.
The basic disconnect between you and many others here (including me) stems from a difference in starting assumptions.
Your starting assumption is that we are currently at peace with Iran and Trump is about to start a conflict.
My starting assumption is that we have been at war with Iran since 1979, and Trump is about to end the conflict.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (lHAAk)
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382 I also hope Bibi finishes off Hamas while everyone is looking the other way.
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (UjdFS
Exploding falafel!
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2025 03:51 PM (UjdFS
Exploding falafel!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (A5bjg)
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339 - Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us. - CBD
True. I think it was James Burnham who said that it only takes one side to declare a war and define its stakes, or words to that effect. Just because it would be nuts for Iran to launch a missile at us doesn't mean they wouldn't do it, since it would make sense in their own twisted worldview. Just as there were Russians, both in the military and in the Communist Party, who thought that a nuclear war with the United states was winnable.
True. I think it was James Burnham who said that it only takes one side to declare a war and define its stakes, or words to that effect. Just because it would be nuts for Iran to launch a missile at us doesn't mean they wouldn't do it, since it would make sense in their own twisted worldview. Just as there were Russians, both in the military and in the Communist Party, who thought that a nuclear war with the United states was winnable.
Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (mADJX)
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The feeds certainly look like we're going to join in.
If that's just Fordow and some key bunkers to start, and then see how it goes from there.
Because Trump has now demanded "unconditional surrender" from the Iranians.
If that's just Fordow and some key bunkers to start, and then see how it goes from there.
Because Trump has now demanded "unconditional surrender" from the Iranians.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)
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337 "he wants to be known for ending wars rather than starting them"
We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)
Exactly.
We have been at war with Iran for 45 years. This is ending that war.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 17, 2025 03:43 PM (gDhA9)
Exactly.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (j6Ika)
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:50 PM (zuAlv)
Up and down my brother. Up and down.
Still blessed.
Up and down my brother. Up and down.
Still blessed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (eZwyX)
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I think the IDF should use Psychological War on the Ragheads. I would broadcast Kami's Cackling 24 hours a day until their ears bleed.
No one can survive this for a week without losing it....
No one can survive this for a week without losing it....
Posted by: Allotta Fagina at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (1sBXy)
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osted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:47 PM (m
WW2 just turned into the Cold World War which included Korea and Vietnam. We never won the peace and NATO is still costing us billions.
WW2 just turned into the Cold World War which included Korea and Vietnam. We never won the peace and NATO is still costing us billions.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (VofaG)
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Up and down my brother. Up and down.
Still blessed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (eZwyX)
Awesome. Good to see you around. Im migrating to the nood but probably will get back to work soon. Gotta pay those bills!
Still blessed.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at June 17, 2025 03:54 PM (eZwyX)
Awesome. Good to see you around. Im migrating to the nood but probably will get back to work soon. Gotta pay those bills!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 17, 2025 03:55 PM (zuAlv)
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391 The feeds certainly look like we're going to join in.
If that's just Fordow and some key bunkers to start, and then see how it goes from there.
Because Trump has now demanded "unconditional surrender" from the Iranians.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)
I liked that qoute he had that we know where Khamenei is, and he's safe from attack, but it would sure be helpful if maybe he was somewhere else if you know what I mean fellas.
If that's just Fordow and some key bunkers to start, and then see how it goes from there.
Because Trump has now demanded "unconditional surrender" from the Iranians.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 17, 2025 03:53 PM (6ydKt)
I liked that qoute he had that we know where Khamenei is, and he's safe from attack, but it would sure be helpful if maybe he was somewhere else if you know what I mean fellas.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (OA79/)
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Then you are retarded. Their missile program will eventually build an ICBM. And they will launch at us. - CBD
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That's the least of my fears, as I would hope we could take out a lone ICBM and whatever decoys are sent with it.
It's the container ship and other options they'd have that scare me.
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That's the least of my fears, as I would hope we could take out a lone ICBM and whatever decoys are sent with it.
It's the container ship and other options they'd have that scare me.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (ITkJX)
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
Canadistan -- It's only a matter of time.
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Canadistan -- It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: 29Victor at June 17, 2025 03:58 PM (j6Ika)
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364 Iran has been the world's leading group of absolute fuckbags killing and sponsoring the killing of American troops since the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut, and following on with decades of manufacturing and teaching the manufacturing of IEDs that killed and maimed thousands over the course of the last 30 years. - ballistic
The failure to do absolutely anything to strike at Iran or hold its government accountable, particularly over the manufacture of those IEDs that killed and maimed so many U.S. military personnel, is something that filled me with disgust at what appeared to be the fecklessness of George Bush in dealing with this particular threat. I am not a historian, and admit my knowledge of his war policy in this regard is slim, so if I am off base, feel free to correct me. I would actually welcome any insights that prove that I am judging Bush unfairly in this matter.
The failure to do absolutely anything to strike at Iran or hold its government accountable, particularly over the manufacture of those IEDs that killed and maimed so many U.S. military personnel, is something that filled me with disgust at what appeared to be the fecklessness of George Bush in dealing with this particular threat. I am not a historian, and admit my knowledge of his war policy in this regard is slim, so if I am off base, feel free to correct me. I would actually welcome any insights that prove that I am judging Bush unfairly in this matter.
Posted by: Paco at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (mADJX)
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America's turban.
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America's turban.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (ITkJX)
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Renegotiating the tariff rates instead of arresting the SC politicians, starting with Calhoun, advocating for nullification was him folding.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)
A shooting war in 1830 would have been much harder for the North to win. Railroads and immigration helped the North far more than the South. Also the Minie rifle made battles less decisive and more bloody. Also favoring the North since the South initially had better leadership.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)
A shooting war in 1830 would have been much harder for the North to win. Railroads and immigration helped the North far more than the South. Also the Minie rifle made battles less decisive and more bloody. Also favoring the North since the South initially had better leadership.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
Please no.
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
Please no.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (OA79/)
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At no time has Iranian Mullah's been more easily destroyed. Air defense down. All their terrorist proxies are dead or on life lines. Israel is doing all the heavy lifting. It's now or never.
Knocking out Iran now makes more sense than going into Iraq ever did.
Knocking out Iran now makes more sense than going into Iraq ever did.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (IifOV)
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
Please dont let them loot the Iranian treasury on the way out and live the life of luxury as full Professors at a Canadian university.
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 17, 2025 03:56 PM (NFX2v)
Please dont let them loot the Iranian treasury on the way out and live the life of luxury as full Professors at a Canadian university.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at June 17, 2025 04:01 PM (OA79/)
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I'd also like to remind everyone this is all because of Jimmy Carter that we are having this problem 45 years later. That SOB made the Shah of Iran capitulate to the Mullahs and here we are today.
I'd also like to remind everyone this is all because of Jimmy Carter that we are having this problem 45 years later. That SOB made the Shah of Iran capitulate to the Mullahs and here we are today.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (IifOV)
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I can't imagine the extreme hate that Bush would endure from some on the Right here in 2005/2006 if he would have expanded the war to include Iran.
Not saying though it shouldn't have been done. At least an aerial strike.
Not saying though it shouldn't have been done. At least an aerial strike.
Posted by: polynikes at June 17, 2025 04:03 PM (VofaG)
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Will the it's OK for Iran to have a nuke guy please explain why they wouldn't use it for a threat?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (DLqye)
A threat would be one thing. The danger is that they might just fire it to kill people for the hell of it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (DLqye)
A threat would be one thing. The danger is that they might just fire it to kill people for the hell of it.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (8avO+)
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310 If the site is very remote and in the desert, can air power alone force high enough casualties on Iranian ground forces that they cannot overwhelm any IDF ground base via counter-attack in strength?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
/Nods
Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (mP0Kj)
ehhh ... about that ...
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 17, 2025 03:30 PM (HlyYF)
I'm telling ya, airvents.
Posted by: James Brown at June 17, 2025 03:37 PM (OA79/)
/Nods
Posted by: Maverick at June 17, 2025 03:40 PM (mP0Kj)
ehhh ... about that ...
Posted by: Zombie Red Leader at June 17, 2025 04:04 PM (TTAGa)
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Oldcat , exactly.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2025 04:06 PM (DLqye)
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Exploding falafel!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (A5bjg)
Falafel has had that effect on me.
With all the nuke scientists gone I am guessing whoever is left in Iran is not equipped to do much more than herd goats and his harem. As it should be. Bring back mini skirts and booze and all will be well, inshallah.
Bastards! I hate them all! I do tend to lump them all into one falafel of rock worshipers. While realizing, at the same time, there is a smattering of Christians and good people there who are stuck with the terrorists and don't want to live like this.
I am not as heartless as I try to be.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 17, 2025 03:52 PM (A5bjg)
Falafel has had that effect on me.
With all the nuke scientists gone I am guessing whoever is left in Iran is not equipped to do much more than herd goats and his harem. As it should be. Bring back mini skirts and booze and all will be well, inshallah.
Bastards! I hate them all! I do tend to lump them all into one falafel of rock worshipers. While realizing, at the same time, there is a smattering of Christians and good people there who are stuck with the terrorists and don't want to live like this.
I am not as heartless as I try to be.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (6PCLE)
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403 A shooting war in 1830 would have been much harder for the North to win. Railroads and immigration helped the North far more than the South. Also the Minie rifle made battles less decisive and more bloody. Also favoring the North since the South initially had better leadership.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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I don't think SC would have gotten nearly as much support in 1830 as it did in 1860, especially if the response was just arresting Calhoun.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 03:59 PM (8avO+)
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I don't think SC would have gotten nearly as much support in 1830 as it did in 1860, especially if the response was just arresting Calhoun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)
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Netanyahu is of the synagogue of Satan. Every war he demands in congress ends with the mass slaughter of Christians. He is no more “God’s chosen” than Henrik Yagoda or Vladimir Lenin was before him.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)
Wait, which Christians are being slaughtered because of Netanyahu? Where?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Mxf84)
Many were recently killed in Syria, after the faction backed by Turkey toppled the government there and Russia and Iran were pulled out.
Making the collapse of the House of Cards set up in the wake of Hillary's meddling in Syria Netanyahu's fault is laughable.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at June 17, 2025 03:20 PM (TGPs7)
Wait, which Christians are being slaughtered because of Netanyahu? Where?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at June 17, 2025 03:24 PM (Mxf84)
Many were recently killed in Syria, after the faction backed by Turkey toppled the government there and Russia and Iran were pulled out.
Making the collapse of the House of Cards set up in the wake of Hillary's meddling in Syria Netanyahu's fault is laughable.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:08 PM (8avO+)
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I don't think SC would have gotten nearly as much support in 1830 as it did in 1860, especially if the response was just arresting Calhoun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)
Slave states are slave states. Lincoln had a lot of confidence in the power of the opposition in the South and it was all misplaced.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)
Slave states are slave states. Lincoln had a lot of confidence in the power of the opposition in the South and it was all misplaced.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)
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415
Slave states are slave states. Lincoln had a lot of confidence in the power of the opposition in the South and it was all misplaced.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)
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The nullification crisis was about tariff rates, not slavery.
And Calhoun was an ass that seemingly few people actually liked.
Slave states are slave states. Lincoln had a lot of confidence in the power of the opposition in the South and it was all misplaced.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (8avO+)
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The nullification crisis was about tariff rates, not slavery.
And Calhoun was an ass that seemingly few people actually liked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
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Israel has a nuke, Would Israel ever use it? Of course not, Iran would have a nuke so no regime change and other foreign military escapades against it. That's the main reason the US and Israel don't want Iran to get the bomb. Israel is small enough where you don't even need a nuke. If Iran was hell bent on getting rid of Israel they could do it without a nuke but they don't. The fact Israel started this attack amidst negotiations is pathetic, it is not a heroic or honorable act in the face of aggression. They obviously, don't need American military support if they were brazen enough to go through with it
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)
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The nullification crisis was about tariff rates, not slavery.
And Calhoun was an ass that seemingly few people actually liked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
Everything in the 1820-60 period was about slavery in the end with a few exceptions. SC wanted the ability to block the development of the Northwest because they didn't give a shit about the United States, just their section. They were seeing the end of the amount of Territory they could expand into that was good for cotton slave agriculture. They were starting to eye Texas as a new slave expansion area.
And Calhoun was an ass that seemingly few people actually liked.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 17, 2025 04:10 PM (GBKbO)
Everything in the 1820-60 period was about slavery in the end with a few exceptions. SC wanted the ability to block the development of the Northwest because they didn't give a shit about the United States, just their section. They were seeing the end of the amount of Territory they could expand into that was good for cotton slave agriculture. They were starting to eye Texas as a new slave expansion area.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:16 PM (8avO+)
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The fact Israel started this attack amidst negotiations is pathetic, it is not a heroic or honorable act in the face of aggression. They obviously, don't need American military support if they were brazen enough to go through with it
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)
The negotiations ended after 60 days, as Trump always told them. Israel prepped its action during that period, and set it off after Iran delayed past the deadline.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)
The negotiations ended after 60 days, as Trump always told them. Israel prepped its action during that period, and set it off after Iran delayed past the deadline.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 17, 2025 04:18 PM (8avO+)
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"The fact Israel started this attack amidst negotiations is pathetic, it is not a heroic or honorable act in the face of aggression. They obviously, don't need American military support if they were brazen enough to go through with it
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)"
They didn't start it. It was started by Iran via its proxy forces (Hams, Hez) on October 7. This is just a battle in the ongoing war, hopefully the last. Negotiations were given 60 days, then you don't fight nice if you want to win. This is something the US needs to relearn. You do not provide warnings - you strike fast, ruthlessly and relentlessly and you do not stop when you enemy is routed. Most military gains occur during the rout.
Posted by: Whirligiginator at June 17, 2025 04:13 PM (fN+0V)"
They didn't start it. It was started by Iran via its proxy forces (Hams, Hez) on October 7. This is just a battle in the ongoing war, hopefully the last. Negotiations were given 60 days, then you don't fight nice if you want to win. This is something the US needs to relearn. You do not provide warnings - you strike fast, ruthlessly and relentlessly and you do not stop when you enemy is routed. Most military gains occur during the rout.
Posted by: Brian at June 17, 2025 04:54 PM (iK8a4)
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Fordow simply needs isolating--NOTHING in or out, no power supply etc. and then forget about it.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 17, 2025 05:02 PM (hKoQL)
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I need another entry in the "I Come in Peace" cinematic universe. Get Dolph Lundgren out of the mothballs and on that screen again.
Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at June 17, 2025 05:59 PM (V362x)
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