Trump Announces Deal With China; Media Cry About Tariffs <i>Not</i> Causing Inflation As They've Insisted They Would for Two Years

Trump Announces Deal With China; Media Cry About Tariffs Not Causing Inflation As They've Insisted They Would for Two Years

The latest coordinated Democrat-Media Party panic operation concerned rare earth metals. They said that the economy would collapse because Trump's trade war with China was reducing the amount of heavy metals China was selling us.

Well, Trump says he just struck a trade deal with China and China will begin sending us heavy metals again.

(I know I keep flipping between rare earth metals and heavy metals but I think they're largely overlapping Venn circles and I like saying heavy metal and taking a ride on heavy metal.)

President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the U.S. deal with China is done, with Beijing to supply magnets and rare earth minerals while the U.S. will allow Chinese students in its colleges and universities.
"WE ARE GETTING A TOTAL OF 55% TARIFFS, CHINA IS GETTING 10%. RELATIONSHIP IS EXCELLENT!" Trump wrote on Truth Social without elaborating.
A White House official said the agreement allows the U.S. to charge a 55% tariff on imported Chinese goods. This includes a 10% baseline "reciprocal" tariff, a 20% tariff for fentanyl trafficking and a 25% tariff reflecting pre-existing tariffs. China would charge a 10% tariff on U.S. imports, the official said.
Trump said the deal is subject to final approval by him and President Xi Jinping.
"FULL MAGNETS, AND ANY NECESSARY RARE EARTHS, WILL BE SUPPLIED, UP FRONT, BY CHINA. LIKEWISE, WE WILL PROVIDE TO CHINA WHAT WAS AGREED TO, INCLUDING CHINESE STUDENTS USING OUR COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES (WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD WITH ME!)," Trump said.

China has agreed to a 55% tariff on their goods with only a 10% tariff on our goods? That seems incredible, but they have, in fact, been ripping us off for decades, and they are being hurt by Trump's tariffs. We're not, but they are.

Meanwhile, the media is now crying that the runaway inflation they were praying for isn't coming to save them from the Bad Orange Man:

Axios is very sad:

A run of better-than-expected indicators -- including Wednesday's inflation report -- so far point to a strikingly resilient economy.
Why it matters: Those waiting for signs of a tariff-wrecked economy will have to keep waiting.
Economists anticipate President Trump's policies, particularly those related to trade, will weaken growth and raise consumer prices. But how, when, or even if looks more uncertain than ever.

Aw. So sad! I know you were really counting on this, Democrat-Media Party.

Just six days ago, on June 5th, this same Politico for Kidz! website we know as Axios reported that "anecdotally" there was proof of the claim that tariffs are causing inflation, and said it was "textbook economics."

Now, it is true that tariffs usually cause price increases but you know what reduces prices? An economy becoming more productive. Like reversing the Obama-Biden trend of cutting jobs in the real economy (and putting people on welfare, where they're paid to produce nothing) while creating jobs in the fake economy of government bureaucrats taking money from some people and giving it to other people. Moving people from destructive to productive uses will tend to check price increases.

Bloomberg is very, very sad that Trump's tariffs are causing, if anything, prices to fall.

I won't bother to prove it -- though I could, easily -- the vile communist corporate propaganda media is wailing and gnashing their teeth that the explosion of inflation they've been wishcasting for not just since the election but for years before it just isn't happening.

The Guardian, in fact, flat out lies to its readers and tells them prices are going up:

US prices continued to rise in May amid Trump tariffs
Annualized inflation hit 2.4% in May, up from 2.3% in April, as Trump pushes ahead with controversial trade plans

US prices continued to rise in May as companies and consumers grappled with Donald Trump’s tariffs. The president has repeatedly pledged to lower costs across the economy.
Annualized inflation ticked higher, to 2.4%, in May, up from 2.3% in April. On a month-to-month basis, the consumer price index rose by 0.1%, down from 0.2% the previous month.
The readings were softer than expected. Economists had expected a headline CPI reading for 2.5% in May, amid widespread uncertainty over the direction of the US economy.

Now, it is true that inflation clocked in at 0.1% in May -- which is a very low rate. Sean Davis did a quick calculation and confirms that that 0.1% monthly increase in inflation translates to a yearly inflation rate of 1.25% -- well below the 2% inflation rate the Fed actually aims for as its "target" rate. (The Fed believes that some amount of inflation is good and necessary. I think they reason that some inflation pressures people to invest money or at least put it into savings accounts (with the bank investing it) rather than just hoarding it.)

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1 Grey boxes.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 11, 2025 03:30 PM (NcvvS)

2 1st

Posted by: GF at June 11, 2025 03:30 PM (SnGRt)

3 I didn't know we needed all that many magnets.

De-graying boxes though.....

Posted by: BurtTC at June 11, 2025 03:31 PM (dGCAG)

4 All I care about is Bismuth.

That's it.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 03:32 PM (0HaGk)

5 I like the grey boxes.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 11, 2025 03:32 PM (gOEou)

6 China pays a fee to keep their spies in the US? What's not to like.

Posted by: Accomack at June 11, 2025 03:32 PM (a0t1F)

7 Willowed:

So a Jewish lady is the head of Mexico?

Go ahead and square that circle.
Posted by: rickb223

Think of the food combos!
Posted by: Count de Monet

Gifilte Fish tacos!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (X9y8b)

8 What a greyt deal!

Posted by: fd at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (vFG9F)

9 Grey boxes.
Posted by: Nazdar at June 11, 2025 03:30 PM (NcvvS)
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Ja. What's the problem?

Posted by: Walter Gropius at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (krQz2)

10 Last month, my financial advisor talked about inflation around the tariffs. Going to keep him on a short leash.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (NcvvS)

11 So sorry they have the sadz...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (VE6XX)

12 We're more of a classic rock / R&B / soul band than heavy metal.

Posted by: Rare Earth at June 11, 2025 03:34 PM (q2NNn)

13 Economists anticipate President Trump's policies, particularly those related to trade, will weaken growth and raise consumer prices. But how, when, or even if looks more uncertain than ever.
_________________

If I were an economist I would never admit it in public.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 11, 2025 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

14 Sean Davis did a quick calculation and confirms that that 0.1% monthly increase in inflation translates to a yearly inflation rate of 1.25% -- well below the 2% inflation rate the Fed actually aims for as its "target" rate.

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I don't know, Ace, the math seems off. If it's 0.1% for one month, and we have 25 months a year.... looks like the Guardian (formerly known as the Indians) was right.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 11, 2025 03:34 PM (dGCAG)

15 Matzo chimichangas could work.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 03:34 PM (0HaGk)

16 Now, it is true that tariffs usually cause price increases but you know what reduces prices? An economy becoming more productive. Like reversing the Obama-Biden trend of cutting jobs in the real economy (and putting people on welfare, where they're paid to produce nothing) while creating jobs in the fake economy of government bureaucrats taking money from some people and giving it to other people. Moving people from destructive to productive uses will tend to check price increases.

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Not all price increases are inflation. They're not even necessary signals of inflation.

And the extent of tariffs effects on consumer prices is wildly overstated.

Since the money supply is not actually being affected, the effects will be more directly in line with the supply and demand curve.

Those goods subjected to tariffs will decrease demand as their prices go up. That's actually deflationary if anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:34 PM (GBKbO)

17 "I like saying heavy metal and taking a ride on heavy metal."

I dunno. Sounds kinda gay to me ....

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (iFTx/)

18 Matzo ball Taco soup?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (lIio7)

19 4 All I care about is Bismuth.

That's it.

Not actually a metal. Its crystal formations are pretty, though.

Posted by: Some Pedant at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (1Idb6)

20 9 Walter (from Bauhaus to Nohaus), this is my first FIRST since krakatoa's weekend EMTs. Let me bask for a few minutes.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (NcvvS)

21 Axios: I do not need to be told “why it matters”.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (2Rbgs)

22 >>>12 We're more of a classic rock / R&B / soul band than heavy metal.

well that's okay because both songs listed are classic rock. They're just ABOUT heavy metal, while not being heavy metal.

I guess Sammy Hagar gets close but he's not really thought of as "metal," I don't think.

Posted by: ace at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (KRtlO)

23 I didn't know we needed all that many magnets.
......

Everybody has a refrigerator.

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 03:36 PM (UjdFS)

24 The bad part of the deal is the China students (CCP spies) get to keep coming, and keep stealing.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 11, 2025 03:36 PM (vbXSk)

25 "Survey says"...economics is now The Price is Right!

Posted by: runner at June 11, 2025 03:36 PM (g47mK)

26 Without this site, how would we know that, when hot women reach middle age, they are seven times stronger than Viagra?

Posted by: Eeyore at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (od0dV)

27 I didn't know we needed all that many magnets.

You really only need a few big ones.

Posted by: Wile E. Coyote at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (1Idb6)

28 Any body here watch Ancient Apocalypse? Just discovered it this weekend. Nice to see these sights.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (FmapG)

29 chicom students can come, they just did not say how many...

Posted by: runner at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)

30 I didn't know we needed all that many magnets.
......

Everybody has a refrigerator.
Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 03:36 PM (UjdFS)

Thanks to me!

Posted by: Tank Abrams at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (dGCAG)

31 I think they reason that some inflation pressures people to invest money or at least put it into savings accounts (with the bank investing it) rather than just hoarding it.)

That ship sailed in 2020.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (X9y8b)

32 Either these tariffs are magical and are unique and don't do what tariffs are supposed to do and cause inflation, or tariffs don't cause inflation.

Which is it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

33 taRREEEEEEFFFS

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 11, 2025 03:37 PM (Splbu)

34 Gifilte Fish tacos!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (X9y8b)

Tres Leches Babka

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 11, 2025 03:38 PM (q2NNn)

35 Tariffs CANNOT cause inflation. Inflation is caused by the government printing money because it spends more then it takes in.

As a tax, tariffs will have a very slight deflationary impact.

Basically the $ the government collects when you buy cheap Chinese crap will go to pay for Obamaphones and gift cards for illegals instead of just printing that money

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:38 PM (t0Rmr)

36

FULL MAGNETS!

Posted by: Guy holding up Bic lighter at June 11, 2025 03:38 PM (63Dwl)

37 25 "Survey says" - more like Family Feud.

Posted by: Nazdar at June 11, 2025 03:38 PM (NcvvS)

38 Thanks to me!
Posted by: Tank Abrams

dying here

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at June 11, 2025 03:38 PM (Splbu)

39 Either these tariffs are magical and are unique and don't do what tariffs are supposed to do and cause inflation, or tariffs don't cause inflation.

Which is it?

Orange man bad!

Posted by: The Democrat-Media-Bulwark Complex at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (1Idb6)

40 But remember the Golden Age of Bidenomics, when inflation didn't exist?

Posted by: Eeyore at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (od0dV)

41 So sorry they have the sadz...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 11, 2025 03:33 PM (VE6XX)

Ah, Axios. Press here:

https://tinyurl.com/mwtcthvp

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (0eaVi)

42 Heh...and our hat to the north is still getting saturated on canola tariffs to the tune of 100%.

I'm sure the genius economist, garden gnome, Carney will have that ironed out in no time.

Posted by: Orson at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (dIske)

43 "WE WILL PROVIDE TO CHINA WHAT WAS AGREED TO, INCLUDING CHINESE STUDENTS USING OUR COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES (WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD WITH ME!)," Trump said."

We need to watch these Chinese students like a hawk. This could be a huge Trojan horse.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (NpAcC)

44 This may be shocking, but no one in the media knows a fucking thing about anything.

And the people they run to in order to tell them stuff also tend to know nothing.

Lot of stupid people out there.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (bwHMz)

45 Why does Trump want China to send us their maggots? Can't we raise our own?

Posted by: Emily Litella at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (G5+As)

46 F***in' magnets, how do they work?

Posted by: Insane Clown Ace at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (KRtlO)

47
There's a theory that China has us over a barrel on those rare earth minerals and this deal reflects that fact. Not good if true.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (YDQ9Q)

48 (The Fed believes that some amount of inflation is good and necessary. I think they reason that some inflation pressures people to invest money or at least put it into savings accounts (with the bank investing it) rather than just hoarding it.)

--

Inflation and unemployment tend to have an inverse relationship, for reasons that the character limit here won't let me dive too far into.

This is a political decision that a little bit of inflation is preferable to a degree of unemployment that isn't easily quantifiable. So the Federal Reserve targets a (relatively) low inflation rate.

Prob the best way to do it, really. It's a more conservative action than the alternative.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (fqEzO)

49 39 Either these tariffs are magical and are unique and don't do what tariffs are supposed to do and cause inflation, or tariffs don't cause inflation.

Which is it?

Orange man bad!
Posted by: The Democrat-Media-Bulwark Complex at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (1Idb6)

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The logic is unassailable and undeniable.

I prostrate myself before your wisdom, oh great Democrat-Media-Bulwark Complex!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)

50 >>>This may be shocking, but no one in the media knows a fucking thing about anything.

now that's a controversial theory.

Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (KRtlO)

51 They said that the economy would collapse because Trump's trade war with China was reducing the amount of heavy metals China was selling us.
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They haven't been right about any major story in most of the last decade (at least).

If the 2024 election wasn't stolen, then perhaps they are right about that one.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (krQz2)

52 F***in' magnets, how do they work?

Why are pants different from shirts?

Posted by: the other greatest video of all time at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (1Idb6)

53 I think they reason that some inflation pressures people to invest money or at least put it into savings accounts (with the bank investing it) rather than just hoarding it.)

That is a reason I've seen people make for a small inflationary pressure being good but I think it is grossly overstated.

Do we really think that Joe Average will go buy a new TV *today* because in a slight inflationary environment it will be $5 more in a year, versus he wouldn't in a slight deflationary environment because it will be $5 less in a year?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (t0Rmr)

54 President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the U.S. deal with China is done, with Beijing to supply magnets and rare earth minerals while the U.S. will allow Chinese students in its colleges and universities.

Meh. I'd like to see us continue to develop our own RE mining and refining, and that won't happen if China continues to undercut domestic production with subsidized exports. Likewise, the universities provide them with a direct pipeline into every new thing we develop. I don't want to cut the Chinese students out entirely, but we need to be a lot smarter about what we let them do once they're here.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (s8j++)

55 50 >>>This may be shocking, but no one in the media knows a fucking thing about anything.

now that's a controversial theory.
Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (KRtlO

In fairness, grooming minors is a thing they know about.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (bwHMz)

56 Bismuth and Antimony.

That's all I need.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (0HaGk)

57 53 That is a reason I've seen people make for a small inflationary pressure being good but I think it is grossly overstated.

Do we really think that Joe Average will go buy a new TV *today* because in a slight inflationary environment it will be $5 more in a year, versus he wouldn't in a slight deflationary environment because it will be $5 less in a year?
Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (t0Rmr)

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I think it's more about capital budgeting and investing at that level than consumer spending.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

58 We keep student & professor spies and anchor baby flights (and US Hospital and Birthing hotels servicing) continue?

The ships at sea continue to unload their cheap goods at the US Ports?

And we're going to get off our a**es and renew our mining for heavy metals when?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (NFX2v)

59
All I care about is Bismuth.

Is that what they put in Pepto Bismol?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (63Dwl)

60 Yeah, you don't want deflation. I mean, if you have cash it's great. If you have non-cash assets, it sucks balls.

Tariffs can only cause inflation if you buy tariffed goods. Less cheap-ass plastic crap from China in our landfills, that's a net positive. Don't buy that crap.

Posted by: spongeworthy at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (CDWlY)

61 Economists anticipate President Trump's policies, particularly those related to trade, will weaken growth and raise consumer prices. But how, when, or even if looks more uncertain than ever.

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During the entirety of next Democrat Presidential Administration. Duh!

Posted by: ShainS -- Has the Big Beautiful Breakup passed yet? at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (/kYbb)

62 We need to watch these Chinese students like a hawk. This could be a huge Trojan horse.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 11, 2025 03:39 PM (NpAcC)

They ain't that big.

Posted by: Size small Trojans at June 11, 2025 03:42 PM (0eaVi)

63 Since when do you conduct a survey to see what the price of goods are?

Wouldn't you just, I dunno, go to a store and see what prices are and report on them?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

64 >>>Inflation and unemployment tend to have an inverse relationship, for reasons that the character limit here won't let me dive too far into.

oh right, yes, that's probably the real reason. If employment approaches 100%, wages start really getting inflated as the private sector is forced to raises wages to attract in that 5% of the population that just doesn't want to work and will only work if you overpay them. And then you have to raise wages to keep your workers from being poached by other companies.

Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (KRtlO)

65 I think it's more about capital budgeting and investing at that level than consumer spending.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

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ROIs etc already tend to take expected inflation changes into account.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (fqEzO)

66 63 Since when do you conduct a survey to see what the price of goods are?

Wouldn't you just, I dunno, go to a store and see what prices are and report on them?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

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One data point in NYC tracked over time doesn't necessarily indicate prices across the nation on average.

A survey is appropriate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)

67 I'm actually a little concerned about him opening universities to Chinese students. We can't get our own students to come out of college with any knowledge other than how to be a paid agitator and grift the system.

Now we're gonna educate communist loyalists?

WTF.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (bwHMz)

68 F***in' magnets, how do they work?
Posted by: Insane Clown Ace
.....

It's anti-gravity.

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (UjdFS)

69 55 50 >>>This may be shocking, but no one in the media knows a fucking thing about anything.

now that's a controversial theory.

Untrue! They are real aces when it comes to makeup, hair styling, and bias, but mostly bias.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (s8j++)

70 Bismuth Antimony and Ytterbium.

And that's ALL I need.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (0HaGk)

71 (Willowed but pertinent) I'm genuinely surprised the tariffs haven't caused an inflation spike.

Or perhaps all the other economic benefits of Trump policy compensate for whatever price impacts tariffs have.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at June 11, 2025 12:38 PM (V6W16)

Inflation is caused by the government printing money because it spends more then it takes in.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:38 PM (t0Rmr)
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Both wrong. Inflation is caused when the money supply is in excess of the productivity of the economy able to consume it. Has little to do with government receipts.

And tariffs, as a form of tax are in fact deflationary. Because the only way to avoid the tax is to buy something else, or buy less of the product being taxed. By definition, taxes increase the cost of all goods thus decreasing the amount of goods which can be purchased. This is deflationary. Every economist knows this. Those who professed otherwise either lied, or are in competent - or maybe both.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (GZYu7)

72 Sean Davis did a quick calculation and confirms that that 0.1% monthly increase in inflation translates to a yearly inflation rate of 1.25%
_________

I know there's no math, but when did they add half a month to the calendar?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (ITkJX)

73 71 And tariffs, as a form of tax are in fact deflationary. Because the only way to avoid the tax is to buy something else, or buy less of the product being taxed. By definition, taxes increase the cost of all goods thus decreasing the amount of goods which can be purchased. This is deflationary. Every economist knows this. Those who professed otherwise either lied, or are in competent - or maybe both.
Posted by: Black JEM at June 11, 2025 03:43 PM (GZYu7)

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Or economics education has gotten so bad that people forget the supply and demand curve after freshman year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

74 So which blog or SUPERPATRIOTAMERICANFLAG Twitter account said this Chinese deal is bad.

Posted by: Cmonman at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (mqp9Z)

75 Supply magnets?

Really?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (zZu0s)

76 I know there's no math, but when did they add half a month to the calendar?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (ITkJX)

Did you carry the four?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (bwHMz)

77 Annualized inflation ticked higher, to 2.4%, in May, up from 2.3% in April. On a month-to-month basis, the consumer price index rose by 0.1%, down from 0.2% the previous month.

But you guys told me everything was unicorn shit and skittles when Biden's economy saw 7 and 8% inflation........

.1% should have me shitting gold.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

78
I think it's more about capital budgeting and investing at that level than consumer spending.

I think the example generally holds. High levels of deflation would be bad, just as high levels of inflation are. But there is no real reason to believe low levels of deflation are any worse then low levels of inflation.

So imagine Globo Mega Corp can build a factory that will generate a 20% increase in profits. If deflation is 20% or higher then it makes no sense to build it. But if it is 1%? Then it has no real impact.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:45 PM (t0Rmr)

79 I don't want to cut the Chinese students out entirely, but we need to be a lot smarter about what we let them do once they're here.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (s8j++)

You're right. They should only let in women. Sexy sexy women.

Posted by: Swallowswell (come on, it's the only way I get any) at June 11, 2025 03:45 PM (0eaVi)

80 "We need to watch these Chinese students like a hawk. This could be a huge Trojan horse."

That horse was let in ? under Nixon. They got out of the horse and have been stealing our research, and/or buying our nuke secrets (and everything else they can get their hands on).

Posted by: illiniwek at June 11, 2025 03:45 PM (vbXSk)

81 Didn't know we even imported Chinese heavy metal..Brack Sabbath?

Posted by: Azjaeger at June 11, 2025 03:45 PM (6kD6S)

82 >> An economy becoming more productive.

Don't forget reducing DEI - time wasted on, and useless DEI hires.

Also,
The reason the Fed loves some inflation is because of the vig -- the gov. just claims that percentage of the entire money supply as vig each year. The old justification of "incentive to invest" makes no sense since (a) money is no longer gold horded in vaults, and (b) if inflation is -10%, wouldn't I still want to invest if I can gain -5% return? It makes no difference as long as investment returns more than not investing would.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (gto2l)

83 Thanks to me!
Posted by: Tank Abrams

dying here
Posted by: vmom

Did Tank fart again??

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (X9y8b)

84 F***in' magnets, how do they work?
Posted by: Insane Clown Ace
......

Ancient Chinese Secret

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (UjdFS)

85 Chinese students should no longer be welcome here. Spies and saboteurs. Don't you wonder why China chose that as a reciprocal trade?

Posted by: Ciampino - very suspicious at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (sPQoU)

86 The Founders were so stupid that they gave the Executive Branch the power to lay tariffs....and for 235 years it lay fallow until Trump weaponized it to right the American Ship of State which has been sinking.

Congress is skeptical and will take all the tariffs it can get while taxing us to death.

Posted by: torabora at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (q+j4m)

87 Under the deal, Chy-na will send us heavy metal, but it's all bootlegs of Judas Priest from the period after Rob Halford came sashaying out of the closet. Chy-na is asshoe.

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (guCHD)

88 13 Economists anticipate President Trump's policies, particularly those related to trade, will weaken growth and raise consumer prices. But how, when, or even if looks more uncertain than ever.
_________________

If I were an economist I would never admit it in public.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 11, 2025 03:34 PM (YqDXo)

Now do Trump's policies, particularly related to deregulation, will strengthen growth and lower consumer prices.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (pIfcn)

89 Next they will say Trumps economy was just lucky because of the AI boom.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (bwHMz)

90 That is a reason I've seen people make for a small inflationary pressure being good but I think it is grossly overstated.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (t0Rmr)
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Some inflation is just going to happen in a vibrant economy.

The macroeconomic formula is MV = PQ. High velocity has the same effect on prices as more money supply, until quantity can catch up.

Market economies are all about reaching equilibrium, but not immediately.

Thus, that inflation exists is ONE of the signs that your economy is growing.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (krQz2)

91 Didn't know we even imported Chinese heavy metal..Brack Sabbath?
Posted by: Azjaeger

Ah So/D So.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (X9y8b)

92 Why would the worker supply be going down, I wonder?

The WEF/GOPe are as malicious as they are retarded.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (zZu0s)

93 Don't you wonder why China chose that as a reciprocal trade?
Posted by: Ciampino - very suspicious at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (sPQoU

That's called playing the long con.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (bwHMz)

94 86 The Founders were so stupid that they gave the Executive Branch the power to lay tariffs....and for 235 years it lay fallow until Trump weaponized it to right the American Ship of State which has been sinking.

Congress is skeptical and will take all the tariffs it can get while taxing us to death.
Posted by: torabora at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (q+j4m)

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Actually, the Constitution explicitly lays the tariff power with Congress.

Congress ceded the power to the executive in the very late 1700s through statute.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

95
I know there's no math, but when did they add half a month to the calendar?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

The Great Leap Year.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 11, 2025 03:48 PM (63Dwl)

96
Sooo. Is Abe Vigoda dead or nah?

Posted by: Always confused guy at June 11, 2025 03:48 PM (5hfjS)

97 Wed Zeppewin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 11, 2025 03:48 PM (zZu0s)

98 Or economics education has gotten so bad that people forget the supply and demand curve after freshman year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

I admit to a certain distraction by freshman coed convex curves being supplied in abundance.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (q2NNn)

99
Market economies are all about reaching equilibrium, but not immediately.

Amusingly part of the reason the elites like high levels of inflation is that they can use the time period from when government starts spending money and when inflation hits to their advantage because they have earlier access to Bidenbux.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (t0Rmr)

100
Their wish casting for Trump to fail, "Here. No, here! This time, for sure, here!" is very much like a guy who keeps peeing into the wind and then wonders why he is always getting peed upon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (xG4kz)

101 Under the deal, Chy-na will send us heavy metal, but it's all bootlegs of Judas Priest from the period after Rob Halford came sashaying out of the closet. Chy-na is asshoe.
Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (guCHD)

He sashayed? Yeah, must've missed that. I've never seen him fly a pride flag, display the hijacked rainbow or talk about 'gay rights' really ever........Seems to me he just lives his life, rocks out and keeps his private life, private.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

102 Did California lose its lawsuit about the President having power to put down insurrection?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (bwHMz)

103 Bismuth Antimony and Ytterbium.

And that's ALL I need.
Posted by: eleven
.....

Maybe a little unobtanium?

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (UjdFS)

104 (The Fed believes that some amount of inflation is good and necessary. I think they reason that some inflation pressures people to invest money or at least put it into savings accounts (with the bank investing it) rather than just hoarding it.)

Thanks for that, Ace,
I've thought about this before wondering why there is a magic 2% inflation goal. It's obviously never been important to me enough to look up... but now I know at least one reason.

Posted by: Inogame at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (53oGX)

105 >>>
I know there's no math, but when did they add half a month to the calendar?

I think it's due to the compounding effect. If inflation goes up 1% in Month One, and then 1% in Month Two, etc., each month's 1% is a little bigger than the previous month's one percent.

Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (KRtlO)

106 Tariffs don't cause inflation. That is a non-sequitur. They will make things more expensive (i.e. increase cost); that is how they work. Tariffs work by making imports more expensive so that domestic products are relatively less expensive. The problem is that so many inputs to domestic manufactured goods are imported such that even domestically produced products cannot escape cost increases.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (P7Iz+)

107 Wed Zeppewin.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

*snort

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (X9y8b)

108 The Hu

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (ITkJX)

109 Sean Davis did a quick calculation and confirms that that 0.1% monthly increase in inflation translates to a yearly inflation rate of 1.25%
_________

I know there's no math, but when did they add half a month to the calendar?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 03:44 PM (ITkJX)
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You really don't know how interest is compounded?

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:50 PM (krQz2)

110 because they have earlier access to Bidenbux.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (t0Rmr)

Hmmm. And use the funny money to buy things of actual value?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 11, 2025 03:50 PM (zZu0s)

111 >> And tariffs, as a form of tax are in fact deflationary. Because the only way to avoid the tax is to buy something else, or buy less of the product being taxed. By definition, taxes increase the cost of all goods thus decreasing the amount of goods which can be purchased. This is deflationary. Every economist knows this. Those who professed otherwise either lied, or are in competent - or maybe both.

Yes, but that would mean either less goods have been purchased overall, or that consumption has moved to non tariffed goods. I don’t believe either one of those has happened unless I missed something.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 11, 2025 03:50 PM (wgAtL)

112 I am still amazed that we are not in hyper inflationary territory. I mean there is still over $800 BILLION backed into federal spending from the 2008 financial crisis from the obama economic stabilization bill and there is also a whole bunch of $$$$ still being spent from the covid emergency bill and the biden inflation reduction act.

We should be in the 1,000-2,000% inflation territory at this point.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 11, 2025 03:50 PM (e5NfL)

113
Another "hunnert"!

* buffs fingernails on shirt *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 11, 2025 03:50 PM (xG4kz)

114 102 Did California lose its lawsuit about the President having power to put down insurrection?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (bwHMz)

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In a lawsuit begging for immediate relief, the 9th Circuit judge (SCOTUS jurist Breyer's brother, in fact) denied immediate relief. The merits case is still to happen, but the whole thing being about emergency relief of a situation and the judge saying, "We can talk about this in 3 days," does not bode well for Newsom's chances in the case.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

115 Some inflation is just going to happen in a vibrant economy.

The macroeconomic formula is MV = PQ. High velocity has the same effect on prices as more money supply, until quantity can catch up.

Market economies are all about reaching equilibrium, but not immediately.

Thus, that inflation exists is ONE of the signs that your economy is growing.
Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (krQz2)

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Yes.

And hence the issue. Increase the money supply too much (eg out of proportion with economic needs) you can get a very short lived burst...but it rapidly collapses on itself.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 03:51 PM (fqEzO)

116 Yay?

Newsweek, Trump Administration To Give $1,000 Boost to All Newborn Babies, Published Jun 10, 2025

"Every U.S. citizen born after December 31, 2024, before January 1, 2029, will receive a one-time contribution of $1,000 that will "track the overall stock market," Trump said.

So, it would include anchor babies, too, as they are "U.S. citizens."

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 11, 2025 03:51 PM (NFX2v)

117 Sean Davis is a weird dude.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 11, 2025 03:51 PM (wgAtL)

118 Thanks TJM!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:51 PM (bwHMz)

119 Next they will say Trumps economy was just lucky because of the AI boom.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:47 PM (bwHMz)

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Bubba got credit for the 90s technological revolution in America.

/Of course, only because his VP invented the interwebz ...

* spits twice *

Posted by: ShainS -- Has the Big Beautiful Breakup passed yet? at June 11, 2025 03:52 PM (gHVXY)

120 Looking more closely at why tariffs can raise costs it is because China say can produce some things more cheaply.

Well...why? Yes partly it is a lower cost of living, but mostly it is fewer environmental and labor regulations.

Want to make tariffs make less of a difference? Remove those restrictions.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 03:52 PM (t0Rmr)

121 Lammstein

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (UjdFS)

122 The "natural" rate of inflation is negative. Anything more is government theft.

Each year we learn and improve how we make all things. That *should* be reflected in lower prices. Without money printing inflation would be -24%. So in reality, government vig on money is inflation rate plus about 2-4% every year.

There are a few tricks at play here.
1. They keep inflation positive.
2. They justify money printing (increasing money supply) based on GDP growth. This is combination of population and economy growth.
Just because population grows, there is no justification for more money. That is just taking value from the existing population. (This gets hairy to explain so I will skip.) but my point is that if gov. justifies printing money based on increased population, and money printed by gov. ends up in ruling class pockets due to corruption and self dealing, isn't that part of why they want open borders?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (gto2l)

123 Media Cry About Tariffs Not Causing Inflation As They've Insisted They Would for Two Years

They're wrong?! How can that be. They get so many things right, it's just shocking. Shocking! I'm so shocked, I can't even shockface.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (gLikB)

124 79 I don't want to cut the Chinese students out entirely, but we need to be a lot smarter about what we let them do once they're here.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 11, 2025 03:40 PM (s8j++)

__________________________

I agree with that. You have to understand the soft spot Trump has on the issue. His communications director in the White House is Steven Cheung. He was born in the US, but his parents were immigrants from China. Cheung never finished his college degree, which is remarkable considering the position he holds.

Trump has always shown deserved loyalty, and this issue might be a favor to Cheung.

Posted by: Orson at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (dIske)

125 Did California lose its lawsuit about the President having power to put down insurrection?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (bwHMz)

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Probably not if brought to a California court.

The sleeper cells of lying scumbag communists have been routing various cases against Trump to anti-Trump judges--when it's supposed to be a random process.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (krQz2)

126 There's necessarily going to be an increase in prices because so much of our manufacturing has been offshored and must come back. That will hit in years from now.

Until then, we all fight over too expensive batteries and oven mitts.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (bwHMz)

127 Judge Breyer once struck down a major San Francisco rent control provision, said it violated the 5th amendment and California's Ellis Act (CA Gov't Code sec. 7060 et seq.)

Posted by: Dark Litigator at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (KAi1n)

128
Bubba got credit for the 90s technological revolution in America.

/Of course, only because his VP invented the interwebz ...

* spits twice *
Posted by: ShainS -- Has the Big Beautiful Breakup passed yet? at June 11, 2025 03:52 PM (gHVXY)

Even Mark Cuban (pissbeuponhim) came out and said the 90's was like no other because Clinton opened the candy store and let the kids run it. They lied, cheated and stole EVERYTHING that wasn't bolted down, and some things that were.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

129 I know there's no math, but when did they add half a month to the calendar?

I think it's due to the compounding effect. If inflation goes up 1% in Month One, and then 1% in Month Two, etc., each month's 1% is a little bigger than the previous month's one percent.
Posted by: Ace
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Then how could it have been .2% in April with an annualized rate of rate of only 2.3 per the article? That's lower than the 2.4 annualized rate they give for .1% in May.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 03:54 PM (ITkJX)

130 I am pretty sure the steel and aluminum products will stack to make those 80%

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 11, 2025 03:54 PM (NtVYv)

131 125 Probably not if brought to a California court.

The sleeper cells of lying scumbag communists have been routing various cases against Trump to anti-Trump judges--when it's supposed to be a random process.
Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:53 PM (krQz2)

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Nah.

They pulled a non-insane judge who denied immediate relief to an suit demanding emergency action.

The Newsom lawsuit was hilariously stupid and poorly written and pretty much not about the statute in question at all.

Newsom is going to take the fact that he filed A lawsuit as a victory no matter how things end. And partisan Democrats who hate brown people and want a white dude to be their nominee will tout it as a great victory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

132 Prosperity is all about plentiful affordable energy.

Posted by: toby928 at June 11, 2025 03:55 PM (jc0TO)

133 Why have a bunch of economics experts awaiting their NPC patch to unify the message:

Why would Xi agree to this? Sounds like more bs.

More gaslighting. What I've been reading, nothing has changed. Trump is lying.

Ditto! I see no reason for China to agree to anything Trump wants!

This is supposed to be a deal? This Trump clown is a complete failure. Americans will face a 55 percent tax on Chinese goods, less affordability of US goods in China depressing US exports, and the US gets nothing other than the exact same status quo that existed under President Biden? Another golden TACO.

There is no way that this is the actual deal? China would never agree to something so one-sided. This is Trump just making up numbers to make himself look good again.

Meaning he raised our taxes.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 11, 2025 03:55 PM (JCZqz)

134 It's what separates us from the beasts.

Posted by: toby928 at June 11, 2025 03:56 PM (jc0TO)

135 Also food for thought.

Imagine if you will an economy where imported widgets are cheaper than domestic. David Ricardo aside, let's tariff the imported widgets to make them materially more expensive.

Fine.

A domestic widget maker can look at the prices from his foreign competitors and find value in increasing his prices somewhere between his old price and the new higher price.

Tariffs have an expected effect in a vacuum, but we aren't in a vacuum. However, this isn't inflation in any event. It's a supply side shock.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 03:56 PM (fqEzO)

136 "Every U.S. citizen born after December 31, 2024, before January 1, 2029, will receive a one-time contribution of $1,000 that will "track the overall stock market," Trump said.

So, it would include anchor babies, too, as they are "U.S. citizens."

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 11, 2025 03:51 PM (NFX2v)

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Make it conditional on mandating that all anchor baby payments must come directly from the personal fortunes of all contemporaneous SCOTUS "Justices."

/only half-joking

Posted by: ShainS -- Has the Big Beautiful Breakup passed yet? at June 11, 2025 03:56 PM (gHVXY)

137 >>>Then how could it have been .2% in April with an annualized rate of rate of only 2.3 per the article? That's lower than the 2.4 annualized rate they give for .1% in May.

i was told there would be no math on this blog.

I don't know, to be honest.

Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:56 PM (KRtlO)

138 Damn.

We hit 43,000 and then nope.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 03:57 PM (0HaGk)

139 137 i was told there would be no math on this blog.

I don't know, to be honest.
Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:56 PM (KRtlO)

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I really want to know who this imposter who capitalizes ace is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

140 Prosperity is all about plentiful affordable energy.
Posted by: toby928 at June 11, 2025 03:55 PM (jc0TO)
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And high-density yield energy forms make it the most plentiful.

Which is why the commie bastards want to kill coal.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:57 PM (krQz2)

141 "...with Beijing to supply magnets and rare earth minerals while the U.S. will allow Chinese students in its colleges and universities."

So in exchange for raw materials, we give up training/knowledge and access by CCP agents of intellectual property theft?

I'm not sure that's a good trade. Short-term gain (debatably) for long-term loss.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 11, 2025 03:57 PM (gLikB)

142 101 Under the deal, Chy-na will send us heavy metal, but it's all bootlegs of Judas Priest from the period after Rob Halford came sashaying out of the closet. Chy-na is asshoe.
Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 03:46 PM (guCHD)

He sashayed? Yeah, must've missed that. I've never seen him fly a pride flag, display the hijacked rainbow or talk about 'gay rights' really ever........Seems to me he just lives his life, rocks out and keeps his private life, private.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

You mean other than writing a biography about it and giving interviews where he says things, like: "I'm fucking here. I'm queer. Get fucking used to it."

https://tinyurl.com/mw46kcbs

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 03:57 PM (guCHD)

143
Meaning he raised our taxes.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at June 11, 2025 03:55 PM (JCZqz)
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A foolish inconsistency is the hobgoblin of tiny brains.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (tT6L1)

144 "Psh. Look at Trump, chickening out again. If 55% is so great, why wouldn't we push for 155%?!?!?! Reeeeeee!!!!"

--Every lib everywhere

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (KbCG3)

145 Their wish casting for Trump to fail, "Here. No, here! This time, for sure, here!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at June 11, 2025 03:49 PM (xG4kz)
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So it's just like ~~global warming~~ climate change?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (YqDXo)

146 Manischewquila

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (Jh9Au)

147 How will America survive when they have to pay Amazon prices for TEMU crap?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)

148 i was told there would be no math on this blog.

I don't know, to be honest.
Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 03:56 PM (KRtlO)
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You know, I've never seen a moose out front, either!

It's all unravelling.

Next, thing you know carrots are okay in chili....

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (krQz2)

149 "Prosperity is all about plentiful affordable energy.
Posted by: toby928"

That and yoga pants.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (0HaGk)

150 China is asshoe. Back in the days of Nehru, India was the #1 PR firm for Mao's China, and then China backstabbed India and drove them out of part of Tibet.

The two would have been bosom buddies forever and co-workers leaders, but no, the scorpion can't deny its nature.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 11, 2025 03:59 PM (wBaIH)

151 i'm trying to do a compounding interest calculation but I must be doing something wrong.

Posted by: Ace at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (KRtlO)

152 Katherine Leavitt finally said it: "That's a stupid question." Some reporter impugning Trump's commitment to the First Amendment because he's for arresting people who throw Molotov cocktails.

Another reporter tried the same thing, asking where the First Amendment fits into Trump's "hierarchy of priorities."

I'd like to question where these "protests" fit into the hierarchy of aggrieved injustices?

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (x2CMu)

153 "Manischewquila
Posted by: haffhowershower"

Ehhh.

I just threw up in my gullet.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (0HaGk)

154 It is funny that the left has finally discovered tariffs and remittance taxes take money away from people.

Wait until they find out that's true for every other tax as well, all of which they endorse.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (t0Rmr)

155 >>>Then how could it have been .2% in April with an annualized rate of rate of only 2.3 per the article? That's lower than the 2.4 annualized rate they give for .1% in May.

Somebody used a pivot table.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (q2NNn)

156 "Psh. Look at Trump, chickening out again. If 55% is so great, why wouldn't we push for 155%?!?!?! Reeeeeee!!!!"

--Every lib everywhere

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 11, 2025 03:58 PM (KbCG3)
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Who can't answer the question: "Why not raise the minimum wage to $50 bucks an hour?"

"Because government solutions are created by smart people, dammit! Not hayseeds like you people! And they are for our best!"

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (krQz2)

157
You mean other than writing a biography about it and giving interviews where he says things, like: "I'm fucking here. I'm queer. Get fucking used to it."

https://tinyurl.com/mw46kcbs

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 03:57 PM (guCHD)

Uh, he's not an over the top flamboyant lunatic. He's queer and treats it like its no big deal. He's not flying flags and throwing that shit in your face ever 3 seconds.

Rob also wrote about how PRIEST came to adopt its iconic leather look, saying: "The biggest myth about this new stage gear is that I had somehow masterminded the image as a cover and a vent for my homosexuality — that I was getting a thrill from dressing on stage as I'd like to dress in the street, or the bedroom. This is utter bollocks. I had no interest in S&M, domination or the whole queer subcult of leather and chains. It just didn't do it for me. My sexual preference was for men, sure, but I was — and still am — pretty vanilla. I've never used a whip in the boudoir in my life.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

158 Prosperity is all about plentiful affordable energy.

It's what separates us from the beasts.
Posted by: toby928

That and yoga pants.
Posted by: eleven

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

159 Katherine Leavitt finally said it: "That's a stupid question." Some reporter impugning Trump's commitment to the First Amendment because he's for arresting people who throw Molotov cocktails.

Your free speech is "literal" violence

Their literal violence is free speech

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 04:01 PM (t0Rmr)

160 Ace is bizzarro ace.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:01 PM (0HaGk)

161 Seems to be a thing:

A nitric acid leak at an explosives plant in Vinton County, OH has triggered evacuations and released nitric oxide gas, and could cause possible loss of consciousness. Flights banned from area.

The chemical spill released 3,000 gallons of nitric acid from a tank at the Austin Powder Red Diamond Plant in McArthur– which manufactures explosives used for mining and construction – around 8:30 a.m. Wednesday, a Vinton County spokesperson told WLWT.

https://tinyurl.com/yc2rmfjk

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 04:02 PM (X9y8b)

162 50 China is asshoe. Back in the days of Nehru, India was the #1 PR firm for Mao's China, and then China backstabbed India and drove them out of part of Tibet.

The two would have been bosom buddies forever and co-workers leaders, but no, the scorpion can't deny its nature.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 11, 2025 03:59 PM (wBaIH)

China to India - You time up! You go now!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 11, 2025 04:02 PM (uWKK8)

163 I'm in the import business.

Consumers don't really need half the shit they buy now, and if the price goes from $29.99 to $49.99 its not that noticeable.

China is deflating 3% per year, prices keep going down.

This might be more visible in home repair, A/C replacement something big ticket.

But the new adirondak deck chairs you got at Costco?
LOL no.

Posted by: Harun at June 11, 2025 04:02 PM (IuIym)

164 breakfast taquitos with a schmear

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 11, 2025 04:02 PM (q2NNn)

165 I was hoping the tariffs would shut down Red China's slave factories and all the Swells would have to go without their overpriced Apple products around the world while the chinamen rioted and killed in the streets of Shanghai.

Maybe next time...

Posted by: Moose Dung at June 11, 2025 04:03 PM (I58on)

166 I'd like to question where these "protests" fit into the hierarchy of aggrieved injustices?

Posted by: Ordinary American at June 11, 2025 04:00 PM (x2CMu)
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Also why did they slaver over people being given YEARS for "trespassing" on public property?

I can't say it enough: FU-U-U-UCK these people!

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:03 PM (krQz2)

167 It does seem logical that tariffs would cause inflation, by raising the costs for businesses who will obviously then pass that cost on to customers. QED.

The problem is that is too simplistic. Not only do tariffs drive people to find alternate sources of materials that avoid the tariffs but this analysis ignores the fact that Trump's strategy is to force down tariffs against the USA. When those come down then money is saved by businesses, who then make more money and do not raise prices as expected.

Further, it drives building and hiring in the USA, which benefits workers here and drives the US economy overall which raises all boats.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:04 PM (e7kz6)

168 >>> (The Fed believes that some amount of inflation is good and necessary. I think they reason that some inflation pressures people to invest money or at least put it into savings accounts (with the bank investing it) rather than just hoarding it.)

I take my money out of the system completely, and put it into silver.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at June 11, 2025 04:04 PM (w6EFb)

169 If inflation is low, you can cut interest rates.

If you cut interest rates, that reduces the federal deficit. Since interest on the national debt is $1 trillion per year, even a small decrease in interest rates reduces the number substantially.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 11, 2025 04:04 PM (gDhA9)

170 "Psh. Look at Trump, chickening out again. If 55% is so great, why wouldn't we push for 155%?!?!?! Reeeeeee!!!!"

I remember when the GOPe was running things we'd ask them to end the whole whole programs and they'd go into a negotiation where they publicly said they wanted a 10% cut offering... a 5% cut to start.

And by the time the Dems were done negotiating it would be a 5% increase and the GOPe would tell us how good they were at negotiating because the Dems started out asking for a 50% increase.

Meanwhile if you went to lefty forums you'd find how overjoyed they were that they got an increase when the evvvvvil Republicans had a majority in congress and that they'd get that 50% when they had control (and they would)

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 04:05 PM (t0Rmr)

171 not just The Guardian is lying. Some headlines from the msm today

ABC “News”: Inflation ticket Higher In May Amis Trump Tarriffs

USA Today: CPI Report reveals inflation crept higher

CBS: Inflation edged higher in May

Oddly yahoo and nbc have the most fair headline

Yahoo: inflation pressures ease on a monthly basis

NBC: May inflation shows prices held steady

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 11, 2025 04:05 PM (E4th+)

172 Uh, he's not an over the top flamboyant lunatic. He's queer and treats it like its no big deal. He's not flying flags and throwing that shit in your face ever 3 seconds

Yeah he's not singing songs about how great it is to have sex with men, even his more openly queer songs can be interpreted as being a guy with a girl, if you weren't already aware of his proclivities.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:05 PM (e7kz6)

173

Uh, he's not an over the top flamboyant lunatic. He's queer and treats it like its no big deal. He's not flying flags and throwing that shit in your face ever 3 seconds.

Posted by: Sponge

Halford in The Guardian:

"The world is a much better place now, thank God, but we’ve still got homophobia, racism and these stupid parts of humanity that drive us nuts. You’ve really got to face it head on, so please come out, wherever you are! Proud and loud."

https://tinyurl.com/3jkjj5s9

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 04:06 PM (guCHD)

174 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 11, 2025 04:05 PM (E4th+)
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The increase is in the mail.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:06 PM (krQz2)

175 I like how the Democrats are so reality-based that they thought an April re-run of the Kamala "[Trump's tariffs] will be the largest tax increase on the middle class" ads, that ran in heavy rotation in all the swing states she lost, was really going to work this time.

Like, the ad was so poorly received that Trump won every swing state so ... try it again?
This time with feeling.

But, the real LOL part was the news dork trying to trip up the lady on the street snidely asking, "do you support the tariffs even though it'll make prices go up?"
And she says, "yes. I mean, I'm already paying more for everything [due to the last 4 years]."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 11, 2025 04:06 PM (1r1Cc)

176 I guess Sammy Hagar gets close but he's not really thought of as "metal," I don't think.
Posted by: ace at June 11, 2025 03:35 PM (KRtlO)

I think Hagar, Van Halen, and the like were referred to as ‘Hard Rock’.

Back when there were like 33 flavors of Rock.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 11, 2025 04:07 PM (6ydKt)

177 They aren't entirely wrong: food prices have gone up slightly in May. Not like under Biden but still, up. That is completely unrelated to tariffs though. We're not buying corn from China and even if we were, the tariffs are not on that stuff.

Its like lying scumbags in games and comic books raising prices and blaming tariffs, but books and publishing are not affected by tariffs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:07 PM (e7kz6)

178 172 Uh, he's not an over the top flamboyant lunatic. He's queer and treats it like its no big deal. He's not flying flags and throwing that shit in your face ever 3 seconds

Yeah he's not singing songs about how great it is to have sex with men, even his more openly queer songs can be interpreted as being a guy with a girl, if you weren't already aware of his proclivities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:05 PM (e7kz6)

What a baffling defense. You mean he didn't run it in his audience's face at a time when it would have killer his career? The same is true of George Michael.

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 04:08 PM (guCHD)

179 175 Like, the ad was so poorly received that Trump won every swing state so ... try it again?
This time with feeling.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 11, 2025 04:06 PM (1r1Cc)

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Trump didn't win every swing state. That's impossible. It hasn't happened in 50 years, which means it's impossible.

The only explanation is that Musk changed vote totals through Starlink connected vote tabulators that I swore up and down could never connect to the internet 4 years ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

180 Got gleaming chrome, reflecting steel, loaded, loaded
Ready to take on every deal, loaded, loaded
My pulse is racing, I'm hot to take
This motor's revved up, fit to break
Living after midnight, rockin' to the dawn
Lovin' 'til the morning, then I'm gone, I'm gone...

Not gay, not gay at all. You know how you can tell? The muscles!

Posted by: Marty Crane at June 11, 2025 04:08 PM (I58on)

181 Does anyone else notice - Trump has no cards to play. So, he just deals himself some cards.

Cut the visas for Chinese students. The hugely impacts both Harvard, and the wealthy in China. Suddenly China is ready to deal on tariffs, reducing their tariffs and allowing us to keep the ones we have.

In exchange for trump giving them back what they had a month ago.

The visas cost Trump zero.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 11, 2025 04:08 PM (gDhA9)

182 Didn't that cheeky bastard, Elon Musk, launch a Tesla into space like the 'vette in Heavy Metal? Is it tracking to Mars?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (xIkyh)

183 181 Does anyone else notice - Trump has no cards to play. So, he just deals himself some cards.

Cut the visas for Chinese students. The hugely impacts both Harvard, and the wealthy in China. Suddenly China is ready to deal on tariffs, reducing their tariffs and allowing us to keep the ones we have.

In exchange for trump giving them back what they had a month ago.

The visas cost Trump zero.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 11, 2025 04:08 PM (gDhA9)

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Or, the president has a giant deck of cards, enough to legally stack every hand he has out in the open, but no president has used them because reasons.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

184 "Back when there were like 33 flavors of Rock.
Posted by: SpeakingOf"

Wow.

Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

Like, wtf happened to that?

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (0HaGk)

185 What a baffling defense. You mean he didn't run it in his audience's face at a time when it would have killer his career?

Um, he wasn't openly queer and force it on everyone. Whatever the reason he did not, he did not. You just admitted that, isn't your entire thesis that Halford was problematic because he was so flamboyant?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (e7kz6)

186 How DARE President Trump, who is a businessman, understand economics! How DARE he!

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (a4NoL)

187 "The world is a much better place now, thank God, but we’ve still got homophobia, racism and these stupid parts of humanity that drive us nuts. You’ve really got to face it head on, so please come out, wherever you are! Proud and loud."

I couldn't name a Judas Priest song if you paid me, although if you told me that a song which sounds familiar was by Judas Priest I would say, "Oh, really?" so why am I supposed care wat the lead singer's political and social opinions are

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2025 04:11 PM (2GCMq)

188 And what else continues to lower inflation?

As noted in the sidebar, cutting the trade deficit in half significantly decreases the amount of debt needed to meet government spending goals. Custom revenues go straight to the US Treasury's accounts. At that point, Congress needs to reform its breakneck spending habits.

Posted by: mrp at June 11, 2025 04:11 PM (rj6Yv)

189 I'm just here for the "I told you so."

Tariffs are a tax. Taxes do not cause inflation. They pull money out of circulation, so are often deflationary.

This was always nonsense on stilts and """economists""" who confuse price rises with inflation need to spend a month in The Barrel.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:11 PM (ZOv7s)

190 Some Pedant -

Bismuth is too a metal! Just checked the periodic table and Wikipedia.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 11, 2025 04:11 PM (TlKpx)

191 Want to make tariffs make less of a difference? Remove those restrictions.

Or just ensure they can’t be used as roadblocks. The ostensible reason for those regs is a cleaner and safer environment. The actual reason is literally to block any development in the United States, to draw out any development through endless studies and lawsuits so that nothing gets built.

And then pretend that Americans don’t want to build.

The same is true, I suspect, of much of what goes under the HR umbrella. Make it harder or impossible to hire more American workers, and then claim Americans don’t want to work.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at June 11, 2025 04:12 PM (EXyHK)

192 188 And what else continues to lower inflation?

As noted in the sidebar, cutting the trade deficit in half significantly decreases the amount of debt needed to meet government spending goals. Custom revenues go straight to the US Treasury's accounts. At that point, Congress needs to reform its breakneck spending habits.
Posted by: mrp at June 11, 2025 04:11 PM (rj6Yv)

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1,000,000 people leaving the economy is deflationary as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

193 Does anyone else notice - Trump has no cards to play. So, he just deals himself some cards.

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Actually he does. The powers of the presidency are called "plenary". It means enough for anything.

The Federalists describe a "vigorous executive".

That's what the judges are ignoring. Because it's not Marxism.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:12 PM (krQz2)

194 Halford in The Guardian:

"The world is a much better place now, thank God, but we’ve still got homophobia, racism and these stupid parts of humanity that drive us nuts. You’ve really got to face it head on, so please come out, wherever you are! Proud and loud."

https://tinyurl.com/3jkjj5s9
Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 04:06 PM (guCHD)

Sure, because the best way to convince people that buttsex is the way to go is to flaunt your degeneracy in everyone's face and expect them to just capitulate and love it.

Umm...

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2025 04:13 PM (a4NoL)

195 Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

Like, wtf happened to that?

Streaming. Spottify, Apple Music, etc. Selling songs by the song rather than the album killed the concept album and variety on a disc. When it was an album, you could get Happy Trails on a Van Halen album, because they had space and a chance to have fun and do different songs. An album couldn't just be wall-to-wall the same thing or its boring.

Now, selling each song individually, the studios need every song to be a hit, so they slashed variety and distinctly different music in order to focus on the reliable hit.

Loss of sales killed experimentation and taking chances as well. They focus on the sure thing, so they make maximum money. So songs are not written by soulful, talented songwriters, they are written by 18 people all working together. They take the "Best parts" from each of those people and make it basically the crescendo, the chorus, for the entire song.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:13 PM (e7kz6)

196 @170

>>Meanwhile if you went to lefty forums you'd find how overjoyed they were that they got an increase when the evvvvvil Republicans had a majority in congress and that they'd get that 50% when they had control (and they would)

The difference between the two parties is the Donks know how to wield power to get what they want when they are in power and when they are out of power and even as lunatic and insane their agenda is, they work to advance their agenda.

The GOP has no idea how to wield power, and for the most part, the only thing they know how to do or even care about is increasing spending, increasing opportunities for graft and cutting taxes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:14 PM (XV/Pl)

197 2% inflation is optimal because of money illusion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_illusion

inflation is only just barely and temporarily (rate vs price) affected by tariffs, particularly for trade partners running large export/import surplus ratios against you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_the_United_States

instead we are seeing those trade partners pay what amounts to a "monopsony discount" to access a market heavily tilted in their direction, while production gradually sloshes back onto US shores in the long run

Posted by: TallDave at June 11, 2025 04:14 PM (98TtQ)

198 How DARE President Trump, who is a businessman, understand economics! How DARE he!

Posted by: tcn in AK at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (a4NoL)

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"That automatically disqualifies one from holding public office in general and from the Presidency specifically!"

/US District Clown Judge Bozoberg

Posted by: ShainS -- Has the Big Beautiful Breakup passed yet? at June 11, 2025 04:15 PM (71m32)

199 I'm just here for the "I told you so."

Tariffs are a tax. Taxes do not cause inflation. They pull money out of circulation, so are often deflationary.

This was always nonsense on stilts and """economists""" who confuse price rises with inflation need to spend a month in The Barrel.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:11 PM (ZOv7s)
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They add to prices, which long term increase the demand on income, which increases the need for raises, which cause increase to the actual price.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:15 PM (krQz2)

200 "Bismuth is too a metal! Just checked the periodic table and Wikipedia.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit"

Well...thank you!

Finally someone with some sense.

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:15 PM (0HaGk)

201 "...even if looks more uncertain..."

Ah, 'more uncertain' than what? 'Maybe'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2025 04:15 PM (XeU6L)

202 1,000,000 people leaving the economy is deflationary as well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 11, 2025 04:12 PM (GBKbO)
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That's kind of a trifecta. You save money on ER visits and fake transfer payments; more citizens get jobs they were taking; and the money they earned isn't sent overseas.

Huge drain on the economy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:15 PM (ZOv7s)

203 Um, he wasn't openly queer and force it on everyone. Whatever the reason he did not, he did not. You just admitted that, isn't your entire thesis that Halford was problematic because he was so flamboyant?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (e7kz6)

If you look upthread, I made an offhand joke about the China deal involving Judas Priest from the era when Halford was out of the closet (not their best material by and large). Someone got a burr under his saddle about how Halford was the right kind of faggot: subdued, non-militant. I then pointed out that none of that's particularly true: he was in the closet (not subdued), and his public statements after coming out are indistinguishable from any of the typical gay celebrities who come out from under the rock where they've been hiding. I'm sorry that you and Sponge find his stereotypical homosexuality to be your special cross to bear.

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 04:16 PM (guCHD)

204 @184

>>Like, wtf happened to that?

There is a linux app called radio-active, you enter a genre and it will supply something in the neighborhood of 100 streaming stations from around the world. I've been getting into French EDM lately.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

205 182 Didn't that cheeky bastard, Elon Musk, launch a Tesla into space like the 'vette in Heavy Metal? Is it tracking to Mars?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (xIkyh)

It’s still floating out there somewhere in a long orbit with a mannequin in an astronaut suit behind the wheel.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 11, 2025 04:16 PM (6ydKt)

206 Errr, I thought this guy was an FBI informant?

Enrique Tarrio @NobleOne 2h

I am Proud to announce that I have assumed the role of ICEraid Czar for http://iceraid.us

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 11, 2025 04:16 PM (mlg/3)

207 Doing my employer's yearly mandatory training. There's still a section with DEI bullshit, but to complete that section of the training you only have to click to confirm you read it. There are no test questions as there are with the others on workplace hazards, etc.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (ITkJX)

208 Tariffs are a tax. Taxes do not cause inflation. They pull money out of circulation, so are often deflationary.

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Assuming the government doesn't turn around and spend the money itself though. When spent it goes back in.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (06wU2)

209 "Back when there were like 33 flavors of Rock.
Posted by: SpeakingOf"

Wow.

Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

Like, wtf happened to that?
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (0HaGk)
_____

There still is, mostly. But you have to look for releases from genres that aren't top-40 type stuff. The Apple musics of the world almost exclusively pimp top-40 pop dogshit. But the good stuff is out there.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)

210 Elton John is queer as all get out but I like his music, and he almost never had anything openly and directly queer in his songs. He was just a talented songwriter who sang about all kinds of stuff, not homosexuality. That used to be how musicians used to be. I mean, Tchaikovsky was homosexual, but that didn't influence his music, he didn't write an opera about how much he loves anal sex.

I do not really care what your personal sins are if they don't corrupt your art and your work. Keep it to yourself and we'll get along fine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (e7kz6)

211 Heavy metals...?
Aren't they all heavy? I mean, which weighs more, 50lbs of lead, or 50lbs of tin foil?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 11, 2025 04:18 PM (W/lyH)

212 They add to prices, which long term increase the demand on income, which increases the need for raises, which cause increase to the actual price.
Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:15 PM (krQz2)
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Not true. That's like saying if income tax goes up everyone will demand a raise to pay it.

Tariffs target imports, so people can either pay the extra, or shift to something else (substitution). French wine is too pricey, so I buy an American one.

Inflation is created by expanding the money supply, not taxing imports.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:18 PM (ZOv7s)

213 The internet tells me that "Judas Priest" is a euphemism for Jesus Christ. Oh, goody.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2025 04:18 PM (2GCMq)

214 On another tack, one of the so-called "key" rare earths that we get from China, is Lithium, used in batteries for EV's , etc (not the Sirius satelite station).
Just incidentally, I know of at least two Lithium mining and processing projects that are already being built, and will come on line in 2027, 2028.

The Chinese actually need us a lot more now to export things to, because the Japanese GDP and the EU GDP (primarily Germany, 25% of the EU GDP) are shrinking.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 11, 2025 04:18 PM (vcOmj)

215 Carlos Alberto Escobar-Flores deHerrera Goncalvez

Mohammed Abdulolah Hakim-Moslamibad Durka0/Durka

John Jakob Jingleheimer Schmidt

A Modest Proposal: It could save millions of dolllars in administrative costs if every time a foreigner is deported from the country that they surrender one surname of their choosing. Eventually the cost just in pixelss on electronic immigration paperwork wouold be lowered to a manageablle levell.

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:18 PM (/iMjX)

216 I'm sorry that you and Sponge find his stereotypical homosexuality to be your special cross to bear.

I am sorry that you are so defensive you cannot discuss things without becoming personally offensive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (e7kz6)

217 "Bismuth is too a metal! Just checked the periodic table and Wikipedia.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit"

Well...thank you!

Finally someone with some sense.
Posted by: eleven

Didn't know that was in question.
94% Bismuth & 6% tin for shotgun shell pellets for duck hunting.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (X9y8b)

218 Assuming the government doesn't turn around and spend the money itself though. When spent it goes back in.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (06wU2)
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LOL, like there is ANY relationship between revenue and spending in this country!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (ZOv7s)

219 Uhmm, there has to be a certain amount of inflation or we'd still be paying 5K dollars for a house, or a car, or you name it.

Things have to inflate or you will get no growth, it's also a guardrail against irrational exuberance's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (XV/Pl)

220 There still is, mostly. But you have to look for releases from genres that aren't top-40 type stuff. The Apple musics of the world almost exclusively pimp top-40 pop dogshit. But the good stuff is out there.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)

--

I'd argue that it increases variety, since indies can release their own stuff outside of the major labels acting as gatekeepers.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (06wU2)

221 "Bismuth is too a metal! Just checked the periodic table and Wikipedia.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit"

Well...thank you!

Finally someone with some sense.

Posted by: eleven
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Answers the question, 'What do Pepto Bismol and wheel weights have in common'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (XeU6L)

222 By the time they've been deported 9 times we could just call them Joe.

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (/iMjX)

223 There still is, mostly. But you have to look for releases from genres that aren't top-40 type stuff. The Apple musics of the world almost exclusively pimp top-40 pop dogshit. But the good stuff is out there.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 11, 2025 04:17 PM (iFTx/)

It kind of amazes me when I stumble on a band that I'd never heard of, that gets zero mainstream publicity, and find out that they have a loyal following.

You just have to be your own curator.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (KbCG3)

224 but if you really want to know where inflation is headed, the NGDP Gap is your best bet

https://www.mercatus.org/ngdp-gap

the nonlinear gap is falling into neutral territory so it's getting hard to inflate, but with Q2 looking like 4% on GDPNow the fall is going to level off a bit (6% NGDP growth is not quite neutral territory)

https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow#Tab3

so don't expect a rate cut anytime soon, particularly with real wages finally growing... remember Fed still has $6.7T in assets, meaning there is $6.7T in extra created money still out there chasing goods and services... overall picture looking good though

Posted by: TallDave at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (98TtQ)

225 I know I keep flipping between rare earth metals and heavy metals but I think they're largely overlapping Venn circles and I like saying heavy metal and taking a ride on heavy metal.

Taarna the Tarakian is one of the baddest female characters of all time. She didn't have to speak, she didn't need any kind of catch phrases, she was just absolutely badass. -- from the comments

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (ExV1e)

226 re: bismuth:

FACK, you're right, and I'm wrong. Maybe I was thinking of antimony?

(I actually bought some bismuth at the mall many many years ago- remember Natural Wonders? Goof times.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (1Idb6)

227 LOL, like there is ANY relationship between revenue and spending in this country!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (ZOv7s)

🤣

Oh hey, I started reading some of your books. I like what I've read so far.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (06wU2)

228 Elton John is queer as all get out but I like his music, and he almost never had anything openly and directly queer in his songs. He was just a talented songwriter who sang about all kinds of stuff, not homosexuality. That used to be how musicians used to be. I mean, Tchaikovsky was homosexual, but that didn't influence his music, he didn't write an opera about how much he loves anal sex.

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Taupin wrote the words, Taupin was a little straighter than Elton.

All the Young Girls Love Alice.

Dan Dare: "Dan Dare doesn't know it, but I'd like to make him."

There was a reason I could never bring an EJ album into an Irish Catholic household.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (krQz2)

229 Uhmm, there has to be a certain amount of inflation or we'd still be paying 5K dollars for a house, or a car, or you name it.

Things have to inflate or you will get no growth, it's also a guardrail against irrational exuberance's.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (XV/Pl)
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Wait, price stability *hampers* growth? Tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:21 PM (ZOv7s)

230 And, as I understand it, the first 10 seconds of the song are what hook people into listening on Spotify. It's changed the structure of the song too, no need for a bridge. And add to that, musicians that no longer play instruments. It's sad.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 11, 2025 04:21 PM (AcTAo)

231 By the time they've been deported 9 times we could just call them Joe.

That is a frustrating part of the system. Deportation is great but... they keep coming back. Should be a worse penalty each time, so they feel less encouraged to try again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:21 PM (e7kz6)

232 Rob Halford is an odd one. There are interviews out there where he sounds like a conservative. There are others where he sounds like a typical leftwing homo. I don't know which is the real one. I suspect it's the former, and he says the leftwing stuff because he thinks he has to.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)

233 Oh hey, I started reading some of your books. I like what I've read so far.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:20 PM (06wU2)
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Glad you like them!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:22 PM (ZOv7s)

234 American AF
@iAnonPatriot
Mexican flags are now going up at construction sites all across the US..

https://tinyurl.com/tv6pf22y

Posted by: redridinghood at June 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

235 ... Good.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 11, 2025 04:22 PM (1Idb6)

236 Wow.

Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

Like, wtf happened to that?
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (0HaGk)

They wanted ‘diversity’ of music.

Which in America in 2025 you get Rap/Hip-Hop or Country, sometimes a combination of the two.

Then they throw in some Pop Divas and this thing they call Indie Rock which is just re-branded Folk.

Diversity = Conformity to whatever is popular to the labels in NYC, LA & Nashville.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 11, 2025 04:22 PM (6ydKt)

237 Well yeah, reducing govt spending is the best way to fight inflation... so not just killing fraud and waste as the only good things. Maybe USAID was actually funneling a lot more money then even DOGE found. hee hee.

But I definitely think just the threat of DOGE has reined in a lot of unnecessary spending by taking away credit cards.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (rvwwT)

238 That is a frustrating part of the system. Deportation is great but... they keep coming back. Should be a worse penalty each time, so they feel less encouraged to try again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:21 PM (e7kz6)
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This is why the border wall and robust defense of it is also important. Why try to come back if you're 99% likely to get caught and sent home yet again?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (ZOv7s)

239 And, as I understand it, the first 10 seconds of the song are what hook people into listening on Spotify. It's changed the structure of the song too, no need for a bridge

Yeah there's that, and the fact that it kills songs like some of the Cure's best stuff or Pink Floyd that has a minute or two of build up before the song gets going. Young people are like "where's my chemical reward!!!" *furiously working 3 devices at once*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (e7kz6)

240 Beach Boys Brian Wilson morte at 82. Sad

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (/U5Yz)

241 Aren't they all heavy? I mean, which weighs more, 50lbs of lead, or 50lbs of tin foil?
Posted by: Diogenes

**********

Duuuuude!

*bong hit*

That's...um....like heavy, man

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (/iMjX)

242 @229

>>Wait, price stability *hampers* growth? Tell me you're kidding.

Yeah, pretty much, you typically want prices to be stable, but stable anything in our economic system hampers growth.

The entire economic world order is predicated on unending growth. You don't get growth with "stability." It's kind of axiomatic.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (XV/Pl)

243 The internet tells me that "Judas Priest" is a euphemism for Jesus Christ. Oh, goody.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
......

The internet also tells me that Karen Bass' husbands name is Jesus Lechuga.
I kid you not.

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

244 A lot of interesting chatter happening today from a lot of sources about something going on with Iran soon. Maybe the biggest is the US partially evacuating the US Embassy in Iraq because of an unspecified major threat. Also a very large shipment of anti-drone weaponry that was going to Ukraine has been diverted and sent to US Bases in the middle east instead. It seems like something big is anticipated.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (uWKK8)

245 Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

We play both kinds! Country *and* Western!

Posted by: one of the greatest movies of all time at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (1Idb6)

246 Rob Halford is an odd one. There are interviews out there where he sounds like a conservative. There are others where he sounds like a typical leftwing homo. I don't know which is the real one. I suspect it's the former, and he says the leftwing stuff because he thinks he has to.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)

Well, being a fag means he ain't right in the head to begin with but what ya gonna do.

Posted by: Zombie Brian Wilson at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (I58on)

247 Uhmm, there has to be a certain amount of inflation or we'd still be paying 5K dollars for a house, or a car, or you name it.

Things have to inflate or you will get no growth, it's also a guardrail against irrational exuberance's.

Absent inflation there are things that would push up housing costs - look at high demand areas for example.

But, an increase in prices is only very tangentially rated to actual economic growth. So to use your example, absent inflation your $5K house might now cost $10K because of increased demand while your $1k/year salary has increased to $50k/year because of increases in productivity. And the value of those increases in productivity would be a lot more obvious.

Basically the way I look at it is the government has stolen all the increases in productivity *for decades* via Bidenflation.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (t0Rmr)

248 Uhmm, there has to be a certain amount of inflation or we'd still be paying 5K dollars for a house, or a car, or you name it.

Things have to inflate or you will get no growth, it's also a guardrail against irrational exuberance's.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (XV/Pl)

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I'd just say that money doesn't equal wealth. A dollar bill isn't worth anything other than what you can buy with it. It's a unit of measurement.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (06wU2)

249 FACK, you're right, and I'm wrong. Maybe I was thinking of antimony?

(I actually bought some bismuth at the mall many many years ago- remember Natural Wonders? Goof times.)
Posted by: Lance McCormick

Antimony is a metal, also. A rather toxic heavy metal. I think it is sometimes used to harden steel.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (vcOmj)

250 American AF
@iAnonPatriot
Mexican flags are now going up at construction sites all across the US..

https://tinyurl.com/tv6pf22y
Posted by: redridinghood at June 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)
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"Sir, the enemy are firing flares to show us their positions!"

"Tell the artillery to send it."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ZOv7s)

251 I suspect it's the former, and he says the leftwing stuff because he thinks he has to.

I wonder about that, too. I mean he's never made being gay a secret, he just never was really offensively open about it. But some of the things he says are a bit ridiculous and maybe its chemically enhanced.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (e7kz6)

252 > Like, wtf happened to that?
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (0HaGk)

It's all been replaced by illiterate ape-grunting about "bitchez" and "hos".

In other news, Geraldo Rivera is saying stupid shit on X, which I'm sure will come as a major shock to everyone here.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (qpyNK)

253 216 I'm sorry that you and Sponge find his stereotypical homosexuality to be your special cross to bear.

I am sorry that you are so defensive you cannot discuss things without becoming personally offensive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (e7kz6)

When a couple of humorless retards transform an offhand joke into some kind of high school forensic exercise defending Rob Halford's honor (a topic no one at the HQ seriously gives one solitary fuck about), I do get testy. The constant search for umbrage that some of you cocksuckers are on is tiresome.

Posted by: The Tariffier at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (guCHD)

254 The internet also tells me that Karen Bass' husbands name is Jesus Lechuga.
I kid you not.
Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

I thought she was lesbian...

Posted by: It's me donna at June 11, 2025 04:25 PM (VE6XX)

255 So lettuce Jesus?

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 11, 2025 04:25 PM (gOEou)

256 Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (v0R5T)

I didn't even know she had a husband.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2025 04:25 PM (2GCMq)

257 Inflation is created by expanding the money supply, not taxing imports.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:18 PM (ZOv7s)
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Right by the money supply.

But "inflation" IS the equilibrium of the price of goods at a higher level. It takes more of your income to buy the same thing.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:25 PM (krQz2)

258 They're just ABOUT heavy metal, while not being heavy metal.

Of course, in this case, Heavy Metal is the movie, which is a collection of related vignettes in the styles one might find in the magazine of the same name which really wasn't related the musical genre.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 11, 2025 04:26 PM (ExV1e)

259 It's none of your bismuth.

Posted by: Karen Bass at June 11, 2025 04:26 PM (v0R5T)

260 This latest China 'deal' lets their CCP students attend US colleges at will. This sounds f*cking stupid.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 11, 2025 04:26 PM (/U5Yz)

261 Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

We play both kinds! Country *and* Western!
Posted by: one of the greatest movies of all time at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (1Idb6)

It was a mission from God.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 11, 2025 04:26 PM (q2NNn)

262 It is somewhat comical to watch the left try to defend the riots and oppose deportation because "the Spaniards controlled this area, we stole it from them!"

I mean, we didn't steal anything, we bought almost all of it and signed a treaty for the rest, but even if we had just conquered the Southwestern USA by force of arms... so? How is that any less valid than how they did it to the Navajo and Commanche and Apache?

The same people who talk about "land rights" and whine constantly about how the Red Man has been screwed over by the White Man now suddenly are all on the side of the White Man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:27 PM (e7kz6)

263 American AF
@iAnonPatriot
Mexican flags are now going up at construction sites all across the US..

https://tinyurl.com/tv6pf22y
Posted by: redridinghood at June 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)
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"Sir, the enemy are firing flares to show us their positions!"

"Tell the artillery to send it."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ZOv7s)
***

Jeez!
Glad I got my roof done before all this.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 11, 2025 04:27 PM (W/lyH)

264 Antimony is a metal, also. A rather toxic heavy metal. I think it is sometimes used to harden steel.

Some apparently consider it a metalloid (like silicon and arsenic).

A lot of these labels are kind of arbitrary. Is Pluto a planet? What *is* a planet? Can a moon be a planet? Do you have any more weed? How many fish can you name?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 11, 2025 04:27 PM (1Idb6)

265 Antimony is what the husband pays after a divorce.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2025 04:28 PM (PSEDc)

266 A lot of interesting chatter happening today from a lot of sources about something going on with Iran soon. Maybe the biggest is the US partially evacuating the US Embassy in Iraq because of an unspecified major threat. Also a very large shipment of anti-drone weaponry that was going to Ukraine has been diverted and sent to US Bases in the middle east instead. It seems like something big is anticipated.
Posted by: Tom Servo
__________

Someone mentioned earlier that Trump's 60 day deadline expires tomorrow.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 04:28 PM (ITkJX)

267 It's your one way ticket to midnight
Call it heavy metal
Higher than high, feelin' just right
Call it heavy metal

Posted by: The Red Rocker at June 11, 2025 04:28 PM (HcoTw)

268 Yeah, pretty much, you typically want prices to be stable, but stable anything in our economic system hampers growth.

The entire economic world order is predicated on unending growth. You don't get growth with "stability." It's kind of axiomatic.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:23 PM (XV/Pl)
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History says otherwise. When we used the gold standard, prices were remarkably stable and yet we saw the greatest growth rates in human history. Go look up the chart for the dollar and the giant parabolic curve that happened when we went to fiat money.

One other thing: how are you measuring growth? If you are using GDP you are using a very unreliable measurement. A women staying home and raising children does nothing to raise GDP, but putting them in daycare does.

If the Gov't borrows $1 trillion and spends it on tampons, that shows as $1 trillion in GDP growth. GDP is no longer a reliable measurement of the economy.

We need to back to old measurements, like steel production, calories for the work force, and population growth.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:28 PM (ZOv7s)

269 What is the point of putting up Mexican flags at construction sites. Nobody knew that people both legal and illegal from South America do construction?!! Is it a startling bit of info, too, that hey also do landscaping. Are we supposed to declare they're all legal now because they're working construction and doing lawn care?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2025 04:29 PM (2GCMq)

270 Jeez!
Glad I got my roof done before all this.
Posted by: Diogenes

Us too. A gang of Mexican's had it done in two days. It was a memorizing event to watch them work their process. Not one nail or staple was found after they left.
Excellent job.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 11, 2025 04:29 PM (/U5Yz)

271 Remember when there were ALL KINDS of music?

Like, wtf happened to that?
Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:09 PM (0HaGk)
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Listen to Mercury Tree, they do 17 EDO and 21 EDO scales.

There is probably a greater diversity of music being put out today than at any other time in history.

I just can't stand what is popular (usually)

Although I make a good effort at not liking popular music, I'm not perfect.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:30 PM (krQz2)

272 I too think it quite interesting that the CCP's main want in the negotiations was keeping their students (spies) here.

And for the non-math people, one month inflation and every month gets compounded to get the annual rate, not 12 times whatever 1 month percent.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 11, 2025 04:30 PM (rvwwT)

273 Fixed money supply has its own set of problems, for example regular and unpredictable recessions.

No perfect systems, just degrees of bad in relation to each other.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (06wU2)

274 What is the point of putting up Mexican flags at construction sites.

its the kind of racism that thinks every single swarthy fellow from south of the US border comes from Mexico. Hint: Guatemalans, Venezuelans, Brazilians etc etc do not care for this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (e7kz6)

275 Antimony is a metal, also. A rather toxic heavy metal. I think it is sometimes used to harden steel.
Posted by: A face in the crowd

1% to 10% antimony to lead. Hardens lead.
Used a lot in bullets & shotgun shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (X9y8b)

276 Some of these retards actually seem to think that Spanish was the indigenous language of California, and that "Mexico" per se was even a thing before the Spaniards showed up and kicked Indian ass and took their lunch money.

The Mexica, i.e. Aztecs, existed, of course, but they didn't control anywhere the territory of modern Mexico, much less Mexico before we grabbed Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California.

Plus if there was ever a group of people who richly deserved getting whacked and having their shit taken from them, it was the Aztecs. As one of Neal Stephenson's characters put it, it says a lot when the Spanish Inquisition takes over and things actually become more humane.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (qpyNK)

277 269 What is the point of putting up Mexican flags at construction sites. Nobody knew that people both legal and illegal from South America do construction?!! Is it a startling bit of info, too, that hey also do landscaping. Are we supposed to declare they're all legal now because they're working construction and doing lawn care?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2025 04:29 PM (2GCMq

Plus they are not all mexican . Guatemalans, Columbians and El Salvadorans take offense at being called mexican and they are not exactly fond of each other..

Posted by: It's me donna at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (VE6XX)

278 I recently rented a movie titled "While at War", which is about the parts of the Spanish Civil War. I'll admit I was a bit shocked at how the director and the script treated Franco. Not a monster, apparently.

Posted by: mrp at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (rj6Yv)

279 When I got my roof done it was all a bunch of white dudes playing classic rock and making hilarious jokes while carefully avoiding foul language.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (e7kz6)

280 If I recall correctly, it was Gabe Malor who introduced me to Judas Priest.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (bNf8H)

281 When the GOP finally gets around to stabbing us in the back on deportations again, where would you like them to stab you. I want mine in the kidney because I have two.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (/U5Yz)

282 When a couple of humorless retards transform an offhand joke

I saw Humorless Retards open for Judas Priest at the Orange Bowl in Miami in 1982.

Even got a souvenir hockey/retard helmet to show for it!

Posted by: Engelbert Humperdink at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (I58on)

283 278 On the left is where the real monsters were

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (YwEeS)

284 If I recall correctly, it was Gabe Malor who introduced me to Judas Priest.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (bNf8H)
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*nods head*

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (krQz2)

285 > 275 Antimony is a metal, also. A rather toxic heavy metal. I think it is sometimes used to harden steel.
Posted by: A face in the crowd

This is somewhat tempered by the fact that it is also a violent emetic.

Back in the days of patent medicine, you could buy "Everlasting Antimony Pills" to induce vomiting. You'd swallow it, barf it up, and the pill could then be recovered for reuse.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (qpyNK)

286 X'ers now say the US is evacuating nonessential personnel from bases in Iraq, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, and Qatar.

Iran is reportedly jamming GPS in Iraq near the border.

Jerusalem Post says the evacuations are in response to a threat from an Iranian official that US bases will be targeted if the talks fall through.

There's also talk of an Al Qaeda threat against US officials.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (paSBy)

287 Plus they are not all mexican . Guatemalans, Columbians and El Salvadorans take offense at being called mexican and they are not exactly fond of each other.

*high five*

You want to see sparks fly, call a Cuban a Puerto Rican, or a Puerto Rican a Mexican, etc

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (e7kz6)

288 265 Antimony is what the husband pays after a divorce.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2025 04:28 PM (PSEDc)

It's the screwing you get for the screwing you got.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (N39Ws)

289 I thought she was lesbian...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 11, 2025 04:25 PM (VE6XX)
.....

Who knows? Jesus Lechuga may be a tranny.

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (v0R5T)

290 On another tack, one of the so-called "key" rare earths that we get from China is lithium,
_______________

Lithium is not a rare earth. The "rare earths" are the lanthanide elements, and they're actually not rare at all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

291 272 I too think it quite interesting that the CCP's main want in the negotiations was keeping their students (spies) here.

And for the non-math people, one month inflation and every month gets compounded to get the annual rate, not 12 times whatever 1 month percent.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 11

There were two students caught at Vandenberg with a drone flying over the base and they had disabled whatever it is that allows it to be tracked and their phones had searches about the base. They caught them doing it let them go and then the Feds arrested them on the flight from SF back to China. How many others are there doing the spying American kids wont.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (gOEou)

292 I mean, c'mon man. Does a third-world peasant cartel mule really need four generations worth of patronymic/matronymic hyphenated surnames to validate their existence?

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (/iMjX)

293 267 - Standing Hampton was the first time I bought a CD rather than a cassette. Like '84 I think.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (ITkJX)

294 carefully avoiding foul language.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:32 PM (e7kz6)
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They spoke like they were on Hill Street Blues?

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (krQz2)

295 Plus they are not all mexican . Guatemalans, Columbians and El Salvadorans take offense at being called mexican and they are not exactly fond of each other..
Posted by: It's me donna

Brown on brown fratricide.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (X9y8b)

296 Antimony is a metal, also

You know who else was antimoney? Democrats, amirite? Huh? Huh? Fellas? ...is this thing on?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (e7kz6)

297 K.K. Downing came up with Priest's leather wear. Frankly, Eric Bloom of Blue Oyster Cult was doing the leather, shades, and motorcycle two years before Priest's first album came out and 7 years before Priest put on the cows. Before the leather, Halford was actually very flamboyant on stage and resembled mid-70's David Bowie. However, the "gayest" thing about Halford on stage was his world-class pirouettes.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (KAi1n)

298 By the time of the Mexican-American war, the current SW was sparsely populated by Mexicans who had of course conquered the native tribes.

So if the US were to "give it back" it would be to the various Indian tribes that live there.

Of course this is even stupid because the Aztecs, for example, had only come to Mexico a short time before the Spaniards. So you've have to find members of the tribes there before the Aztecs...but they in turn almost certainly conquered the land from someone else.

And on and on and on...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (t0Rmr)

299 Who knows? Jesus Lechuga may be a tranny.
Posted by: wth

With a name like that, I wonder if he's legal.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (X9y8b)

300 Antimony is what the husband pays after a divorce.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 11, 2025 04:28 PM (PSEDc)

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I thought he was Cleopatra's beau.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (krQz2)

301 They spoke like they were on Hill Street Blues?

No I misspelled it, they avoided talking about chickens

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (e7kz6)

302 Fixed money supply has its own set of problems, for example regular and unpredictable recessions.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (06wU2)
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Um...

Crazy thought: The people who are telling you that our system is the best one ever tried also profit from it the most.

Everyone else gets screwed.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (ZOv7s)

303 Posted by: It's me donna at June 11, 2025 04:31 PM (VE6XX)

No; I didn't think they were all from Mexico and so if I were a construction worker from someplace other than Mexico I might be a little irritated if Mexican flags were put out. i don't know where this idea comes from (the left, I suppose?) that all people from South of the border whose native language is Spanish all like each other and get along because they all speak Spanish.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

304 Plus they are not all mexican . Guatemalans, Columbians and El Salvadorans take offense at being called mexican and they are not exactly fond of each other.

*high five*

You want to see sparks fly, call a Cuban a Puerto Rican, or a Puerto Rican a Mexican, etc
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:33 PM (e7kz6)

Beaners . . . Eat beans!

Posted by: Tommy Chong, musical composer genius at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (q2NNn)

305 @268

>>We need to back to old measurements, like steel production, calories for the work force, and population growth.

All I'm looking at is how the system is constructed and how it works, it's predicated on limitless growth, growth in populations, growth in markets, growth in government services, growth in spending, etc. what we are seeing are the natural effects of the system, in this system, you will get periods of stability, inflationary bubbles, some air get's let out of the bubble causing instability, a period of stasis, then the bubble start to get inflated.

Rinse and repeat for couple hundred years.

I didn't design it, I'm just an observer.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (XV/Pl)

306 Antimony is what the husband pays after a divorce.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
......

I want none of that bismuth.

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (v0R5T)

307 However, the "gayest" thing about Halford on stage was his world-class pirouettes.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (KAi1n)
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And chaps.

But they helped with the pirouettes.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (krQz2)

308 Antimony and Cleopatra. One of the world;s great love stories.

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:36 PM (/iMjX)

309 Beaners . . . Eat beans!
Posted by: Tommy Chong, musical composer genius at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (q2NNn)
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They go to night school, and take Spanish, and get Bs.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:36 PM (krQz2)

310 I've been getting into French EDM lately.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:16 PM (XV/Pl)

Are the French particularly apt at Electric Discharge Machining?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 11, 2025 04:36 PM (D7oie)

311 Ladies and Gentlemen, Larry Correia weighs in about soldiers booing the MSM ( goes to X ) :

https://is.gd/rkDYUY

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (PiwSw)

312 William Jennings Bryan made a career from his "Cross of Gold" stemwinder.

Posted by: mrp at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (rj6Yv)

313 Antimony and Cleopatra. One of the world;s great love stories.

I hear Cleopatra had a great asp.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (t0Rmr)

314 Antimony: what you get when you play Tommy James and the Shondells backwards.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (qpyNK)

315 However, the "gayest" thing about Halford on stage was his world-class pirouettes.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at June 11, 2025 04:34 PM (KAi1n)
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And chaps.

But they helped with the pirouettes.
Posted by: Axeman

*Freddie Mercury has entered the chat.
Live at Wembly Stadium

Posted by: rickb223 at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (X9y8b)

316 I too think it quite interesting that the CCP's main want in the negotiations was keeping their students (spies) here.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 11, 2025 04:30 PM (rvwwT)
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It's not about the spying so much as keeping them safe in the event a revolution starts on the Mainland.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (ZOv7s)

317
So which blog or SUPERPATRIOTAMERICANFLAG Twitter account said this Chinese deal is bad.
Posted by: Cmonman

============

2WAY. Sean Spicer and Mark Halperin didn't like it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 11, 2025 04:38 PM (YDQ9Q)

318 Yes our non politicized military that Obama spent 8 years politicizing and the Biden admin 4 more . 12 of 12 of the last 16 years and the embeds resisted during the other 4...

Posted by: steevy at June 11, 2025 04:38 PM (YwEeS)

319 Antimony and Cleopatra. One of the world;s great love stories.
Posted by: muldoon
......

On par with Antimony and Huma.

Posted by: wth at June 11, 2025 04:38 PM (v0R5T)

320 William Jennings Bryan made a career from his "Cross of Gold" stemwinder.
Posted by: mrp at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (rj6Yv)
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He was advocating for inflation because debts could be paid off with cheaper money.

That's how it starts until the government is the debtor, then everyone else's money becomes worthless.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:38 PM (ZOv7s)

321 @310

>>Are the French particularly apt at Electric Discharge Machining?

Think Depeche Mode but with French Accents and irony so thick you could could hang a baguette on the ceiling.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:38 PM (XV/Pl)

322 William Jennings Bryan made a career from his "Cross of Gold" stemwinder.

Posted by: mrp at June 11, 2025 04:37 PM (rj6Yv)
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I actually gagged reading that.

I full bodied "Don't remind me", rolling my eyes reaction.

But it shows me anyway that bombast has long been the mode of the Democrat party "You're crucifying us on a CROSS OF GOLD!"

What, because we won't switch to the silver system?

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

323 China is about one economic downturn away from the populace deciding that the CCP no longer has the Mandate of Heaven, resulting in the whole shitteree dissolving into a bunch of petty states ruled by warlords.

It's happened a bunch of times before. The Chinese actually expect it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 11, 2025 04:40 PM (qpyNK)

324 Really, if you want to read something overblown and overreacting, read Bryan's Cross of God speech.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:40 PM (krQz2)

325 The mony/antimony engines canna take no more, Captain!

Posted by: Lt Cdr Montgomery Scott at June 11, 2025 04:40 PM (q2NNn)

326 Cleopatra lobbied hard to have her name added to the periodic table, but her application was rejected.

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:41 PM (/iMjX)

327 All I'm looking at is how the system is constructed and how it works, it's predicated on limitless growth, growth in populations, growth in markets, growth in government services, growth in spending, etc. what we are seeing are the natural effects of the system, in this system, you will get periods of stability, inflationary bubbles, some air get's let out of the bubble causing instability, a period of stasis, then the bubble start to get inflated.

Rinse and repeat for couple hundred years.

I didn't design it, I'm just an observer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (XV/Pl)
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Weird, I'm seeing soaring and unstainable national debt, collapsing birth rates and widespread societal collapse.

Maybe it's time is up?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ZOv7s)

328 I get confused on how Cleopatra committed suicide. Did she hold an asp to her breast, or did she hold a beast to her ass?

Posted by: muldoon at June 11, 2025 04:42 PM (/iMjX)

329 China is about one economic downturn away from the populace deciding that the CCP no longer has the Mandate of Heaven, resulting in the whole shitteree dissolving into a bunch of petty states ruled by warlords.

It's happened a bunch of times before. The Chinese actually expect it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 11, 2025 04:40 PM (qpyNK)
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If only there was a book out there that analyzed these trends and noting the lurking dangers for the CCP.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:42 PM (ZOv7s)

330 Crazy thought: The people who are telling you that our system is the best one ever tried also profit from it the most.

Everyone else gets screwed.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:35 PM (ZOv7s)

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Fixed money supplies encourage volatility in an economy and no realistic way to address it. Depressions are a greater danger since monetary policy is nonexistent. Plus it opens up an avenue of monetary destabilization for money that has a fixed exchange rate with a commodity. Gold, for instance, has utility in technology etc. A change in technology where that commodity has more value than the exchange rate messes a few things up.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:42 PM (06wU2)

331 Things have to inflate or you will get no growth, it's also a guardrail against irrational exuberance's.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (XV/Pl)

This is absolutely true, for example during the period of deflation in the US for the period of 1865 to 1893 there was absolutely no growth of any kind.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 11, 2025 04:42 PM (D7oie)

332 2WAY. Sean Spicer and Mark Halperin didn't like it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 11, 2025 04:38 PM (YDQ9Q)
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Spoiler alert: China has never kept a single foreign agreement. Ever.

They may be compelled to do it, but as soon as they can, they will void it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:43 PM (ZOv7s)

333
Next, thing you know carrots are okay in chili....

Posted by: Axeman

*swallows, looks around owlishly*

They aren't?

Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 11, 2025 04:43 PM (MsrgL)

334 Wait...

pirouettes are gay????

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:43 PM (0HaGk)

335 As a free-marketer, I'm far from antimony.

Posted by: Axeman at June 11, 2025 04:43 PM (krQz2)

336 Halford was actually very flamboyant on stage and resembled mid-70's David Bowie.

yeah there was a period where glam was big in the 70s like the late 80s "Dude looks like a lady" hair metal bands where the guys from Motley Crew wore more makeup than Lita Ford.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 11, 2025 04:45 PM (e7kz6)

337 nood fagz

Posted by: eleven at June 11, 2025 04:45 PM (0HaGk)

338 333
Next, thing you know carrots are okay in chili....

Posted by: Axeman

*swallows, looks around owlishly*

They aren't?
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 11, 2025 04:43 PM (MsrgL)

*hears sounds of drones overhead heading to Bif's AO.*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 11, 2025 04:45 PM (PiwSw)

339 Fixed money supplies encourage volatility in an economy and no realistic way to address it. Depressions are a greater danger since monetary policy is nonexistent. Plus it opens up an avenue of monetary destabilization for money that has a fixed exchange rate with a commodity. Gold, for instance, has utility in technology etc. A change in technology where that commodity has more value than the exchange rate messes a few things up.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:42 PM (06wU2)
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The greatest monetary destablizations in history happen when the currency is debased.

Compare pre-1973 growth with what came after. Oh, and be sure to subtract GDP growth from the nation debt, which usually exceeds it.

If you indext GDP to debt, the economy experienced zero growth overall since Obama took office. But the numbers look nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:45 PM (ZOv7s)

340 This is absolutely true, for example during the period of deflation in the US for the period of 1865 to 1893 there was absolutely no growth of any kind.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 11, 2025 04:42 PM (D7oie)

The US had entered its refractory period after the Northern Aggression climax.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 11, 2025 04:45 PM (q2NNn)

341 @327

>>Maybe it's time is up?

Perhaps, this is the reason why Western Countries are importing 10's of millions of people, the system demands the inputs of warm bodies to justify the other pillars of the system.

It's why the great migrations to the US of the late 18th and early 19th century were initiated, in order for the US to grow, it needed more people to justify it and all that entails.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (XV/Pl)

342 >>> 332
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Spoiler alert: China has never kept a single foreign agreement. Ever.

They may be compelled to do it, but as soon as they can, they will void it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 11, 2025 04:43 PM (ZOv7s)

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that OrangeManBad, who is totes dumb and always chickens out, may *akshually* be aware of this historical pattern.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (ULPxl)

343 This is absolutely true, for example during the period of deflation in the US for the period of 1865 to 1893 there was absolutely no growth of any kind.
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How many immigrants were entering the US during this timeframe? The population was increasing - seems odd there were no increase in economic growth.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (FmapG)

344 Things have to inflate or you will get no growth, it's also a guardrail against irrational exuberance's.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 11, 2025 04:19 PM (XV/Pl)

Inflation is necessary in Fiat currencies because the central banks require a certain level of income to survive, and fiat requires that rates be below the market cost for banking to be profitable. This easy money is a lot of what drives inflation.
The problem is that easy money makes it hard to do real things, and instead winds up driving financialization of the economy, where companies are created to satisfy consumer demands, but to be sold off for a profit.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (D7oie)

345 The greatest monetary destablizations in history happen when the currency is debased.

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How many depressions did the US have before leaving fixed money?

How many after it was abandoned?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (06wU2)

346 How many immigrants were entering the US during this timeframe? The population was increasing - seems odd there were no increase in economic growth.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (FmapG)

I forgot the "sarcasm" tag, didn't I

Posted by: Kindltot at June 11, 2025 04:47 PM (D7oie)

347 343 This is absolutely true, for example during the period of deflation in the US for the period of 1865 to 1893 there was absolutely no growth of any kind.
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How many immigrants were entering the US during this timeframe? The population was increasing - seems odd there were no increase in economic growth.
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Sub note, by 1865 the population was depleted by 650k cause vanity. Maybe not killing off an entire generation of men should be something to avoid?

Posted by: pudinhead at June 11, 2025 04:49 PM (FmapG)

348 Are the French particularly apt at Electric Discharge Machining?

Posted by: Kindltot
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AOP probably has that too.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 11, 2025 04:51 PM (XeU6L)

349 Sub note, by 1865 the population was depleted by 650k cause vanity. Maybe not killing off an entire generation of men should be something to avoid?

Posted by: pudinhead
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Omelette requires broken eggs.

Posted by: Abe Lincoln at June 11, 2025 04:53 PM (XeU6L)

350 How many depressions did the US have before leaving fixed money?

How many after it was abandoned?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 04:46 PM (06wU2)

They had what were called panics and some depressions that were resolved fairly quickly. These were caused by overprinting or too easy credit rates from the banks

Depressions are the end of a business cycle that is created by too easy money availabilty either through printing (banks, railroads, and a few other industries printed money, the Treasury only issued gold and silver specie) or too easy credit. A depression is where the bad investments encouraged by easy credit is washed out of the system by either bankruptcy, fire sales, or "writing uncollectable debts off"

Posted by: Kindltot at June 11, 2025 04:56 PM (D7oie)

351 I'll put it differently.

The US gold stock was dependent on externalities. For instance, in the 1890s the world gold stock increased (mining etc) and US prices increased accordingly. But then despite a smoothly increasing gold stock, prices were very volatile, jumping up sharply then suddenly declining.

Overall some years (from 1878 to 1914) had 10% inflation, others had -10%. And yes, bank panics, hoarding, etc played a role as well. Really, not having a central bank and holding to a fixed money supply doesn't guarantee against economic volatility.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 05:05 PM (06wU2)

352 Anyway, good discussion. 😊

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 11, 2025 05:08 PM (06wU2)

353 FFS, NO! TARIFFS DO NOT RAISE PRICES. THE GOVERNMENT SPENDING THAT THE TARIFFS ARE PAYING FOR RAISE THE BLOODY PRICES!!!11!!!! If your government is in debt, especially as deep, deep, DEEEEEP in debt as ours is, those tariffs cover money that you owed anyway. If anything, by forcing you to collect those debts in the present rather than kicking that debt even further down the road, tariffs actually alleviate inflation to some small degree.

Posted by: Wtp at June 11, 2025 05:31 PM (4cfLi)

354 Once again 60 Minutes spews its Lies and Leftists Propaganda to us

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