Gun Thread: More June Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Balls O' Poo! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be more June? One final week to go until I am jobless and standing at an intersection with a cardboard sign. About two more weeks (6/21) and it will be NoVAMoMe 2025, so you should be now rushing your preparations to completion. Bluebell and I can't wait to see all y'all! Details below.

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals

Welp, I think we have pretty well established you people, for the most part, are not thinking about anything and definitely not focusing on fundamentals when you are shooting.

**SIGH**

This hurts, people. This hurts Weasel deeply

Q: Weasel, why does our lack of focus on fundamentals hurt you so deeply?
A: Glad you asked.

It hurts Weasel, because Weasel knows this is the true path to shooting enlightenment.

How about attitude? Do you think your attitude affects your shooting? If so, how so?

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Hikok45 - Pocket Pistols

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More Hickok45!

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1911s

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RPG-7

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Our Pal Neptunium
For far too long we have neglected our pal neptunium. Let's fix that tonight!

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Headed to a Japanese Prison on Gun Charges?

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Highway Patrol!
This week's episode: Split Robbery

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Creature From Galaxy 27!

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2025 NoVAMoMe

Note: One of the great joys of NoVAMoMe season, at least for me, is being able to cut and paste the entire block of text below and haranguing you to attend the event. Are you attending? Are you focusing on the fundamentals of attending?

Alright, guys and gals, the long awaited and highly anticipated details of the 2025 NoVAMoMe are here! That's right, I finally got my act together and updated the information page for 2025, and need to go over a few details. First, the date is June 21st, 2025. Nextly, my bestest blog buddy bluebell and I have decided 2025 will be a year of NoVAMoMe simplification, and want to pass along the changes from prior years.

First, no more registration and no more advance charge for food. If you would like to attend, send an email to WeaselBell Productions, and let us know. You will be directed to a sekrit webpage with all of the details. We do ask once you have decided to attend to let us know so we can coordinate an expected count with venue management. Once there if you are hungry or thirsty simply order from the onsite menu and pay separately. Cash and credit cards accepted. Next, although fun, we have decided to take a break from the raffles and mug sales this year. Depending on how it goes, that may be something we bring back in future years. While your generosity is always appreciated, with no prize table, please leave donations and contributions at home, but bring your appetite for a great afternoon spent with your imaginary online friends.

A NoVAMoMe PSA from our pal bluebell

Hi folks - just a quick PSA. If you write for info about the MoMe, please give us a few words in the body of the email just so I know you are a Moron and not a spammer (moron). I do receive spam on this email account because it's sitting right here in my nic, so that's why I'm asking. I don't want to give our details to a spammer. Also, remember to check your spam folder if you don't receive a reply email.
Thanks.
bluebell

Seriously, just send an email then go to the website with the password provided. If you forget, a link to the email is on the main page, left sidebar. If you do not sign up, bluebell will be disappointed. Weasel will be disappointed, too, but it's bluebell you need to worry about.

That's it, people. Email WeaselBell Productions today!

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Musical Interlude
Here is our pal Leo with Frog Leap's interpretation of Africa.

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Cigar of the Week

This week our pal Winston AKA Pops and a couple of other nics scores again with this excellent review of the Big Sky Cigar Co.

A recent road trip took me to Missoula, MT. Aside from the pleasure of the drive I had two objectives. The first was for bourbon and brandy not available in the Soviet of Washington. That's another story though. The second was to visit Bell Pipe and Cigar. A very pleasant shop with a nice humidor and pleasant employees.
I bought three each of the river series by Big Sky Cigar Company. Named for four of the best fly-fishing streams in the state. All four are very well made in either Nicaragua or the Dominican Republic. Madison and Big Horn are upper mild to low medium in strength. Bitterroot is a solid medium to upper end medium. Blackfoot is an upper medium to mid full bodied. All four are Toro sized with varying ting sizes. Taste runs with coffee, pepper and chocolate. Tasty is my best description.
These are available outside of Montana, their website is quite helpful but may be a little out of date in places. They do a much better job at tasting metrics as my tastebuds are shot.
I've yet to try pairing with bourbon but that will be coming soon to a deck near me soon. These are not a cheap date but are very impressive.
The cigars, from left to right are Blackfoot, Bitterroot, Big Horn and Madison.

Excellent, Winston AKA Pops and a couple of other nics, if that is your real name, Thank you!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com
Nicks Cigar World New!

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo NEW!

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal Mis Hum. Great one!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 BOOM BOOM???

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:00 PM (0XVad)

2 Here!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:00 PM (tez/p)

3 Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 08, 2025 07:00 PM (v23vE)

4 Damn, Scoobs, too slow on the draw here.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:01 PM (tez/p)

5 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

6 4 Damn, Scoobs, too slow on the draw here.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:01 PM

I may be quick on the draw but you are on target before me ;-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)

7 Good afternoon and thank you for the thread, Weasel.

Long involved range report to follow.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:03 PM (tT6L1)

8 Bang Bang! On the drum, baby!

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 08, 2025 07:04 PM (7NkZG)

9 RI Red, would you like to do the honors and talk about the shenanigans that happened this past Friday in your neck of the woods?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:04 PM (0XVad)

10 Howdy!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 08, 2025 07:04 PM (sAmhv)

11 Howdy, All!
Spent 3 mornings last week at the farm practicing FUNdamentals with various shooting irons.

Spent the afternoons picking ticks off.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 07:05 PM (Hdixl)

12 Shenanigans? This sounds interesting.

What were you kids up to, pray tell.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:05 PM (tT6L1)

13 Yeah, they did that a couple times already.

Posted by: 80's music fan at June 08, 2025 07:06 PM (QSrLX)

14 Winston AKA Pops and a couple of other nics
A timely review. SNL is hitting Missoula tomorrow. I'll give him a heads up.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2025 07:07 PM (W/lyH)

15 Still no time at the range.

Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 07:07 PM (KoK5d)

16 The NoVa MoMe last year was great fun...and that was when Biden was in the White House. This year should be even better!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 08, 2025 07:07 PM (CHHv1)

17 RI Red, would you like to do the honors and talk about the shenanigans that happened this past Friday in your neck of the woods?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:04 PM (0XVad)

All yours, Scoobs. Perspective from attendees will be better!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:07 PM (tez/p)

18 Diogenes.
Do that. Also, Grizzly Liquor. They're only a few blocks apart.
Great selection of bourbon not found here as well as brandy, not found here.

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 08, 2025 07:09 PM (IictL)

19 11 Howdy, All!
Spent 3 mornings last week at the farm practicing FUNdamentals with various shooting irons.

Spent the afternoons picking ticks off.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 07:05 PM

I am going to need MANY more range days before I can spend the afternoons picking off ticks with my shooting irons!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:09 PM (HlyYF)

20 Hello, Weasel!

Posted by: ED L at June 08, 2025 07:10 PM (BCwQW)

21 Nood before commenting.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 07:11 PM (2gJlZ)

22 I would have been first but our galaxy is a bizillion of your Earth years away.

Posted by: The Creature From Galaxy 26. at June 08, 2025 07:12 PM (vFG9F)

23 As in I just nooded.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 07:12 PM (2gJlZ)

24 What were you kids up to, pray tell.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:05 PM

Well, we do have 3 new members of the 1,100 yard club.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)

25 The Sun Tsu quote above is apropos - our newest shooter (never past 100 yards before) was blasting the 525 target when we told him to move further out, that he’d already made the 525 his bitch!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:13 PM (tez/p)

26 Did Sun Tsu’s troops have hand cannons?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 07:13 PM (2gJlZ)

27 Well, we do have 3 new members of the 1,100 yard club.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:12 PM (Wnv9h)
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Excellent. Heck, a barn door looks small @ 1,100 yards and I assume you were shooting at something a might smaller.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:14 PM (tT6L1)

28 Great report, Winston AKA Pops!

And actually topically tied in to the gun thread - Bitteroot Valley has, I think, several ammo companies.

If I am up that way I now have a box to check in Missoula (notwithstanding what seems to be lots of commie nonsense breaking out there).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2025 07:14 PM (1m82a)

29 "Well, we do have 3 new members of the 1,100 yard club.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState"

Is that like first base in the mile high club?

Posted by: The Creature From Galaxy 26. at June 08, 2025 07:14 PM (vFG9F)

30 Watching a feed from Agenda-Free TV of the 101 freeway in LA blocked by foreign invaders waving foreign flags. This isn't 1st Amendment activity, this is insurrection.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 08, 2025 07:14 PM (6xrUr)

31 I was about to call it a day, but the L.A. disturbances are annoying me. Infinite grievances from these assholes. Fuck your feelings, go home.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 08, 2025 07:15 PM (2cS/G)

32 Went back to the range today for my second women's shooting class (last month was my first time shooting in 40 years.) Today, besides safety, we worked on grip and stance, and shot at cardboard targets at 10 yards again. We also shot at steel targets, which I had never done. We used one dummy round in a magazine to practice responding to a round that didn't fire. And finally we shot at clay targets at 60 yards. It was a lot of fun and I plan to go next month, the only bad part was that it is 95 degrees today. Last time I had trouble racking the slide (an older and not very strong) so I got a hand exerciser from Amazon to improve my grip strength and it was easier this time.

Posted by: Frankie at June 08, 2025 07:15 PM (vhqSB)

33 Shouts of VIVA LA RAZA are prominent.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 08, 2025 07:16 PM (6xrUr)

34 blake, I think the 1106 target is 18 or 20” wide. 😎

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:16 PM (tez/p)

35 Herrera Esteli on the porch, actually classic perfect weather today, break from the June Gloom.

Weasel?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2025 07:17 PM (1m82a)

36 Posted by: Frankie at June 08, 2025 07:15 PM (vhqSB)
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Nice, Frankie! Congratulations!!

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:17 PM (Xgoim)

37 Hmmm, that version of Africa is interesting, but I do not think they committed. They seemed to pick the music, then decided to sing the tune per Toto. Strange. Now I want to look and see if I can find a better one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 07:17 PM (zZu0s)

38 Well, we do have 3 new members of the 1,100 yard club.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:12 PM

Nice!!!!

Was there a diligent application of fundamentals to achieve those laudable accomplishments?

Let me shake my Weasel-approved Magic 8 Ball for the response: "It is certain"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM (HlyYF)

39 Interesting news from the Civilian Marksmanship Program. CMP is going to begin production of brand new M1 Garands with new forged receivers, new barrels, and a mixture of commercial and GI parts. They are partnering with Heritage Arms, the folks who manufacture the Rough Rider .22 revolvers among other guns. The price seems kind of high, but it just might be worth a look. https://tinyurl.com/CMPgarand

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM (Hdixl)

40 and I assume you were shooting at something a might smaller.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:14 PM (tT6L1)

Might or mite? Can I get a ruling?

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM (zZu0s)

41 Frankie, great job. Keep up the great work!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM (tT6L1)

42 Keep it up, Frankie. And keep the Fun in Fundamentals.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM (tez/p)

43 Weasel?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2025 07:17 PM (1m82a)
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$2 Drew Estate Factory Smoke. Big thunderstorm inbound so I may be forced to abandon my position.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM (Xgoim)

44 Posted by: Frankie at June 08, 2025 07:15 PM (vhqSB)

Congratulations, Frankie! One plus about indoor ranges is that crummy weather is less of a factor.

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM (BCwQW)

45
Might or mite? Can I get a ruling?
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM (zZu0s)
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The ruling would say I need to proof read before posting.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM (tT6L1)

46 I'm sure the $2,000 45 autos are wonderful. But I can say my Rock Island 45 auto, around $350, has been completely reliable and accurate enough for my needs and abilities. An inexpensive parkerized finish doesn't bother me.

Posted by: JTB at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM (yTvNw)

47 Also, Grizzly Liquor. They're only a few blocks apart.

Dang! With a name like that, better go there first!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM (W/lyH)

48 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM (QfvaV)

49 Well, the 4th annual NH mini MoMe was once again a sucess thanks to our host RI Red.

Attendees this year were CBD, RMBS and his friend and myself.
Weasel unfortunately was not able to attend this year and he was missed. Thankfully we were able to persevere without his spotting skills.

The weather that was forecast for that day did not show up until all the fun was done and we were back at the hotel.

The highlight of the trip was that 4 of the 5 attendees were able to ring steel at 1,106 yards.

Yep, you read that correctly, One Thousand One Hundred and Six yards.
Only RMBS's friend did not make it that far. But we were able to get him to ring steel at I believe was 875 yards.

Fun was had by all

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM (CSqhN)

50 I had to switch my VPN out of the Tokyo server it was set on (anime reasons) to see the video about “Behind Bars in Japan”. They don’t want you watching it if you are over there! Hmmmh?! I would think they would want you to watch it as a warning, but it’s probably some aspect of face culture I don’t understand. Now to watch it!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM (taapK)

51 The commumists in California are provoking another death to use as a martyr. Charlotsville on steroids. Pavel what-his-name.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM (6xrUr)

52 Weasel,

Congrats on the one week slide to retirement. Also, thanks for the Highway Patrol episodes. I don't much care about the show but I love the fins on the cars.

Posted by: JTB at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM (yTvNw)

53 Might or mite? Can I get a ruling?
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM (zZu0s)

mite

/pendant

Now that my necklace is off --

/pedant

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM (rF2iL)

54 All yew peeple cans talk abouts is evil guns when Trump is be killing persins of coller in the Las Angeles.

Makes us sick in Brattleboro that we be has a criminel in the Whyte Horse.

Posted by: Mary clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM (1Ymb4)

55 A note for anyone thinking of a Missoula trip. Neither the cigar store or Liquor stores are open on Sundays.
Be prepared. They aren't near the campus so I saw more cowboys than trannies.

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM (IictL)

56 Let me shake my Weasel-approved Magic 8 Ball for the response: "It is certain"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM (HlyYF)

PI, we missed Weasel, but we didn’t miss too many targets. And he would have been proud. There was no wobbly shit.
Well, except for something done early by someone whose name rhymes with Gildo .

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM (LMRVO)

57 Unplugging while the lightning storm goes through. Be back in a bit.

Posted by: JTB at June 08, 2025 07:23 PM (yTvNw)

58 Proper practice and application of the fundamentals prevents me from appearing in the 8 ring on your target.

Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 08, 2025 07:23 PM (XqeJN)

59 Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM (LMRVO)
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I thought I detected wobbly shit to the north.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:24 PM (i67OH)

60 On my way home I passed by Brattleboro and thought to look up dear old Mary.
But the smell of patchouli and cat piss kept any sane person away.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:24 PM (CSqhN)

61 They are partnering with Heritage Arms, the folks who manufacture the Rough Rider .22 revolvers among other guns. The price seems kind of high, but it just might be worth a look. https://tinyurl.com/CMPgarand

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 07:18 PM

Very interesting.

FWIW, I got my youngest daughter a very inexpensive Rough Rider with a 6" barrel as her first range training gun.

So far it has eaten every bit of cheap 22LR ammo she has thrown at it with zero problems and good accuracy.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

62 Proper practice and application of the fundamentals prevents me from appearing in the 8 ring on your target.
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 08, 2025 07:23 PM (XqeJN)
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The range was angry!

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:25 PM (jH5TK)

63 56 Well, except for something done early by someone whose name rhymes with Gildo .

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM

Hoo boy that was something. But we all did get a good laugh out of it.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:25 PM (CSqhN)

64 Well, except for something done early by someone whose name rhymes with Gildo .
Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:22 PM

We'll let him explain that.

*snort*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:25 PM (Wnv9h)

65 $2 Drew Estate Factory Smoke. Big thunderstorm inbound so I may be forced to abandon my position.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:19 PM

King Canute would find a way to finish his cigar without moving off of the deck!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:26 PM (HlyYF)

66 Only RMBS's friend did not make it that far. But we were able to get him to ring steel at I believe was 875 yards.

Fun was had by all
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM

True, but he learned a lot, had a great time, and got bit by the long range bug. I foresee distant steel in his future.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:27 PM (Wnv9h)

67 How about attitude? Do you think your attitude affects your shooting?

Absolutely. Whatever skill you’re at, attitude affects your ability to display it.

Posted by: Kratwurst at June 08, 2025 07:28 PM (fcDpY)

68 And we had the pleasure of meeting RI Red's Daughter in Law in Training. RI Red the Younger has great taste.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:29 PM (Wnv9h)

69 Evenin' gun nuts. I have not been to the range (again), but I'm trying to figure out logistics for the MoMe. I'm going to be in the ATL for work the week before. My original plan of flying in from ATL proved to be unworkable, but I might be able to roadtrip it if I get back home early enough on Friday and not too tired.

Posted by: screaming in digital at June 08, 2025 07:29 PM (DnMuk)

70 Absolutely. Whatever skill you’re at, attitude affects your ability to display it.
Posted by: Kratwurst at June 08, 2025 07:28 PM (fcDpY)
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Correct! There is a big mental aspect to shooting.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:29 PM (jH5TK)

71 Good job Scoobs, RI Red, CBD, and RMBS!

That may be one of our best range reports in recent history.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:30 PM (HlyYF)

72 sra blaster and I are back from the range today. Still working the Kimber CDS9.

I have a problem. Well 2 problems. One is that the gun is zeored with a dot. As zeroed as zero can be. From the benchrest it will put 2 out of 3 rounds in the exact same hole.

NEXT: standing up and shooting. Here is where you introduce human error. I got it figured out and am dead on with the dot. sra blaster, at the same distance, is shooting 4-6 inches lower. Tis a puzzlement.

She got pretty frustrated with it and then she pulled out her P365 and nailed the bullseye consistently at 7 yards with irons (usually beyond 5 her shooting gets a bit erratic with the P365 but it was dead on).

Then I had her shoot my P365XL with a dot and she shot better than the Kimber but not as well as with irons on the P365.

Here is the thing - standing behind her with the Kimber I can see that it is pointed low - she says the dot is on the target.

Problem one is that she can't shoot this gun with this dot. The second problem is I need to figure out how to tell her that she has the problem not the gun. (We are going with something with her glasses right now.)

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 07:31 PM (QfvaV)

73 BANG!

Posted by: Eromero at June 08, 2025 07:32 PM (LHPAg)

74 Weasel that’s one factor I don’t have to deal with. But I remember those t-storms. First few years they were a thing of wonder to me.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2025 07:32 PM (0/ySy)

75 How about attitude? Do you think your attitude affects your shooting?

Absolutely. Whatever skill you’re at, attitude affects your ability to display it.
Posted by: Kratwurst at June 08, 2025 07:28 PM

"The problem isn't the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."

-- Capt. Jack Sparrow

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 08, 2025 07:32 PM (XqeJN)

76 Hello all...sadly I have no range report. But I am working on my grip in the meantime...Expect to have a range report around the time of the NoVA MoMe, and am very much looking forward to that event.
To those who joined the 1106 club, congratulations!
And Weasel, enjoy this last week. Let people tell you how much they will miss you. You are going to love retirement.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 08, 2025 07:32 PM (IQ6Gq)

77 RMBS, I’ll thank you on DILIT’s behalf. Jr. may have gotten his great taste in women from his father.
And DILIT loved going to breakfast and dinner. As she said later, “We don’t get to socialize that often up here.”
Nurse, if you’re here, DILIT has threatened to shoot the woodpecker that bangs on our metal roof. She’s pretty good with her G22.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:33 PM (LMRVO)

78 So far it has eaten every bit of cheap 22LR ammo she has thrown at it with zero problems and good accuracy.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:24 PM (HlyYF)

I got one with the "Dead Man's Hand" grips. The Ace of Spades is very prominent.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 07:33 PM (QfvaV)

79 So, range report: frantic edition. Last week started with the arrival of the rest of the parts for my new rifle. Originally, I was looking at building a 6.5 x 284 Norma, just accepting there would be nothing resembling barrel life.

But, as I was looking through a reloading manual, I ran across the 6.5-06. Say what? Turns out, someone back when had necked up a 25-06 to .264. (6.5mm) I started looking at the numbers and thought, "Hmm, this sounds like fun." As I looked even further, I realized I only need to change out the neck bushing and mandrel in my resizing die. Even better, case length, shoulder, etc are the same as the 30-06. But, with the shooting commitments I had coming up, I felt a bit of pressure getting the rifle assembled and load worked out.

Yeah, I go from a regular cartridge which is reloaded a lot to a wildcat I have to resize brass for in order to get ammo. I decided to neck up the brass rather than try necking down 30-06 brass due to concerns about neck wall thickness.

/fin part 1

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:34 PM (tT6L1)

80 Yep, you read that correctly, One Thousand One Hundred and Six yards.
Only RMBS's friend did not make it that far. But we were able to get him to ring steel at I believe was 875 yards.

Fun was had by all
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:20 PM (CSqhN)
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Now that is very cool. Great job.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:36 PM (tT6L1)

81 I thought I detected wobbly shit to the north.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:24 PM (i67OH)

Oh yes...but it was a strangely made AR-10 bolt that was wobbly!

I have an AR-10 that I bought when Biden was elected, because I thought that it would be banned quickly.

No problems with it, and it is quite accurate too! Well, until Texas two years ago, when it just stopped ejecting. Instead it jammed the empty into the receiver and I had to use a cleaning rod to get it out. Weird, so when I got home I stripped the bolt and cleaned and lubed it. Everything worked fine at my next range visit, so what the hell?

Fast forward two years with no problems, and I put a new scope on it, so I took it to the range to zero. I stripped it to clean, reassembled the rifle, and headed to RI Red's wonderful neck of the woods to do some long distance shooting.

One round through it to check velocity, and boom! The spent case was jammed into the receiver!

Part 2...anon

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 08, 2025 07:36 PM (mWSu4)

82 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:34 PM (tT6L1)
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In October let's discuss uniforming neck wall thickness.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:36 PM (64qRd)

83 Let's have honest rowel hammers like the Mauser C96, Walther PP, 1911 combat commander, Beretta 21a. Those skeletonized abominations are revolting.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 08, 2025 07:36 PM (xSwrI)

84 King Canute would find a way to finish his cigar without moving off of the deck!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:26 PM

Pfft. When you can stop the tide from coming in, getting a little rain to avoid you is no problema.

Posted by: Canute, King of the Danes, and distant progenitor of Greta, Scold of the West at June 08, 2025 07:36 PM (XqeJN)

85 "The problem isn't the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."

-- Capt. Jack Sparrow
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Sage advice. Ever spiral down after something goes wrong? That’s likely why.

Posted by: Kratwurst at June 08, 2025 07:37 PM (fcDpY)

86 Brand new M1s?

NZFrank hardest hit!

Always meant to get a service grade Special, almost like a new rifle, but never did.

Great news. Some will probably ask “why not carbines?” but maybe CMP figured that outfit that bought the Inland name is making new ones already.

Now if we can just 86 the NFA and get M1919 production going again …..

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2025 07:37 PM (0/ySy)

87 I got one with the "Dead Man's Hand" grips. The Ace of Spades is very prominent.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 07:33 PM

Nice to see that Morons are now taking over all aspects of society outside of the Blue sh*tholes!

P.S. She got the Black Pearl grips ... because teenage girl.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at June 08, 2025 07:38 PM (HlyYF)

88 I thought I detected wobbly shit to the north.
Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:24 PM

Can you detect rice in rear rest bag to the west?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 08, 2025 07:38 PM (XqeJN)

89 Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 08, 2025 07:38 PM (XqeJN)
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*shudders*

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:39 PM (64qRd)

90 sra blaster is determined to find the problem. So we got home put up a target down the hall and put the boresight laser in.

I had it dot over dot at the length of the hall, and then had her try it. We were expecting that she was going to see the dot somewhat below the target bullseye. But, no, it was dead on.

How is it that she is looking through the dot correctly here but not there? Dunno.

But I pulled the dot and reinstalled the plate with the rear sights. Next adventure is going back to the range with the irons.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 07:39 PM (QfvaV)

91 In October let's discuss uniforming neck wall thickness.
Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:36 PM (64qRd)
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Sounds great I'm there.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:40 PM (tT6L1)

92 After much cursing and another attempt with the same result, RI Red stripped the bolt and discovered a very strange manufacturing choice.

The bolt cam pin hole that is eccentric on one side of the bolt on every other AR known to man, actually was the same shape on both sides, so I had a 50% chance of assembling the bolt 180 degrees off, so the the ejector would push the spent round into the receiver rather than out the ejection port!

My only explanation was that they built the bolts for both LH and RH receivers. Other than that...I got nothin!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 08, 2025 07:40 PM (mWSu4)

93 Weasel/Scuba Dude/RMBS: I have a couple of orphan optics I'd like to use to build a longer range 5.56mm platform around. Optic 1: TA-11 ACOG (3.5X35) with BDC reticle for the M249 SAW out to 1000 meters. Optic 2: TA-75 (6X4

with BDC reticle for green tip out of a M-16A4 out to 800 meters. Which of the two would be the better choice for a DMR setup?

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 07:42 PM (BCwQW)

94 Preferred Pocket Pistol: LCP II. Kind of bouncy, bouncy but it fits in a pants pocket.

In other news the decades long illegal alien invasion, celebrated with primarily Mexican flags being displayed, has become a violent insurrection in LA. Various politicians, including Gov. Newsom, LA Mayor Bass, Congresswoman Maxine "The Wig" Waters, are openly supporting the insurrection.

A Redditt commenter about all this summed it up with "US government waging war against its own people." This is not a surprising take; even CNN has started to refer to these non-citizens as undocumented citizens.

The Summer of love and mostly peaceful protests, 2025 edition, has officially kicked off with a flashbang.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at June 08, 2025 07:43 PM (NXz8h)

95 Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 07:42 PM (BCwQW)
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My long range experience is almost exclusively with Nightforce optics. Sorry!

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:44 PM (64qRd)

96 It was a real pleasure shooting with RI Red at his range. He knows the distances cold, and is a knowledgeable and calm instructor. I just shut up and he guided me to the 1,106 target...and the pink ram to boot!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 08, 2025 07:44 PM (mWSu4)

97 Excellent job, CBD.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 07:45 PM (tT6L1)

98 Latest Turkish 1911 clone got delivered to the gun shop and I picked it up on Wednesday. Haven't gotten a chance to shoot it, but hope to get to the local shooting spot tomorrow.
It is a Tisas brand "Duty" model, 5 inch barrel, steel frame, fixed sights. What caught my eye was all the features that would have cost me, not so long ago, a couple of paychecks to have put on it.
Long trigger. Flared ejection port. Fiber optic (dovetailed) front sight. Ambi thumb safety. Beavertail grip safety with memory bump. Beveled mag well. Flat checkered mainspring housing. Checkered wood grips. Checkered front strap!
I've said it before. Grab these Turkish clones while you can.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 07:46 PM (d1dHP)

99 93 Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 07:42 PM

Sorry Ed, I only know Vortex and that I will be upgrading to Nightforce on the next rifle. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:46 PM (CSqhN)

100 The bolt cam pin hole that is eccentric on one side of the bolt on every other AR known to man, actually was the same shape on both sides, so I had a 50% chance of assembling the bolt 180 degrees off, so the the ejector would push the spent round into the receiver rather than out the ejection port!

My only explanation was that they built the bolts for both LH and RH receivers. Other than that...I got nothin!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 08, 2025 07:40 PM

Yep, I learned something new that day. I’m sure the cam pin hole on every military AR is eccentric on one side, because Private Snuffy WILL do it backwards.
And ejecting the case to the right causes a major jam. Hard to believe a major manufacturer would build a reversible bolt.
But CBD did find it. Later in the day his socks weren’t so tight and he went long and strong.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:47 PM (LMRVO)

101 And having fired CBD's and RI Red's 6.5 Creeds, I'm definitely adding a 6.5 to my collection in the near future.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:47 PM (Wnv9h)

102 Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 07:42 PM

Sorry Ed, I only know Vortex and that I will be upgrading to Nightforce on the next rifle. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:46 PM

What Scoob said.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 07:48 PM (Wnv9h)

103 To the left, dammit.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:49 PM (LMRVO)

104 I picked up a S&W M&P15-22 and slapped a scope on it. It is a hoot. I can even punch paper at 100 yds. Having a plinker available has proven to be a lot of fun.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at June 08, 2025 07:51 PM (NXz8h)

105 We did find the elusive zero on Scoob’s Vortex scope.
I have it written down for the next time it wanders - 4 full revolutions plus 3 MOA up from bottoming out.
No excuses in TX, Scoob. Scope is fixed and you also made the pink ram your bitch!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:53 PM (LMRVO)

106 Once I commit to buying a new rifle I am going to asking Weasel for advice for the optic.
Just got to be ready for the sticker shock. LOL

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:54 PM (CSqhN)

107 I've said it before. Grab these Turkish clones while you can.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 07:46 PM (d1dHP)

I love mine.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2025 07:55 PM (W/lyH)

108 Blachawks without Apache Gunships?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 07:55 PM (m4pkx)

109 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 07:54 PM (CSqhN)
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Nightforce Competition scope with MOAR-T reticle.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 07:56 PM (3RLOR)

110 Weasel, RMBS, Scoob - Thanks. I'm looking to stick w/ 5.56mm and the AR-15 type platform for now to simplify logistics. I don't want to add another rifle caliber right now.

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 07:58 PM (BCwQW)

111 Weasel:

I've been stopping by RI Red's blog, and he has many interesting posts, including a series about guns for beginners.

katnapfever.wordpress.com

Posted by: The Neon Madman at June 08, 2025 07:59 PM (4QOY7)

112 Absolutely. Whatever skill you’re at, attitude affects your ability to display it.
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Correct! There is a big mental aspect to shooting.

https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Mind-3rd-Ed/dp/1934324264

Posted by: Oddbob at June 08, 2025 08:00 PM (/y8xj)

113 Anyway, I went on to get a decent chamber measurement, which was somewhat of a process and worked up a mid power load suitable for zeroing the scope. Got that done, did a ladder test, found the accuracy node and moved on from there. (thanks for the for the ladder test guidance, weasel.)

After everything was said and done, I wound up taking a second place in the club match yesterday. Considering I barely had the rifle zeroed to the round and really didn't have decent dope for the distances I did okay.

First blush, the rifle appears to be very accurate. But, I won't really know until I get the rest of the dope for the rifle over the next couple of weeks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:00 PM (tT6L1)

114 105 No excuses in TX, Scoob. Scope is fixed and you also made the pink ram your bitch!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 07:53 PM

Won't matter. If I do make it to Texas this year the only firearms I will be bringing are my handguns. I will bring my spotting scope for the rifle range, but I decided not to go through the hassle of flying with the rifle this time.
Next year when I expect to drive down is when I will bring everything.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 08:00 PM (CSqhN)

115 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:00 PM (tT6L1)
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Nice work!

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 08:01 PM (3RLOR)

116 He shoulda armed hisself.

Gainesville woman charged with rape after allegedly buying drinks for victim and manipulating him into returning to her apartment

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I hate when that happens.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 08, 2025 08:03 PM (L/fGl)

117 katnapfever.wordpress.com
Posted by: The Neon Madman at June 08, 2025 07:59 PM (4QOY7)
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All y'all check it out!

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 08:04 PM (3RLOR)

118 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:00 PM (tT6L1)
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Nice work!
Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 08:01 PM (3RLOR)

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Thank you. Oh and the 6.5 has already joined the 1,000 yard club.

By the way, I'm keeping track of the round count through the barrel.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:07 PM (tT6L1)

119 New M1 Garands.

"These guns are being produced by Heritage Arms USA in Alabama, which has no relation to Heritage Manufacturing (noted maker of .22 revolvers). "

tiny.cc/zpfm001

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 08:10 PM (d1dHP)

120 Hah, the log book in the front seat is a hoot, RI Red.

I keep the front passenger seat fairly clear of stuff until range day. The back seat, however, is generally a repository of various shooting related gear.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:11 PM (tT6L1)

121 Nicely done, blake.
I’m amazed at the round count on my 6.5 Ruger - well over 3K and still accurate, though MV is decreasing.
It will be interesting to hear about barrel life on your new shooter.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:13 PM (LMRVO)

122 "These guns are being produced by Heritage Arms USA in Alabama, which has no relation to Heritage Manufacturing (noted maker of .22 revolvers). "
osted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 08:10 PM (d1dHP)

Interesting. The article I linked had a link directly to the Heritage Manufacturing website. I stand corrected.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 08:14 PM (Hdixl)

123 I've been stopping by RI Red's blog, and he has many interesting posts, including a series about guns for beginners.

katnapfever.wordpress.com
Posted by: The Neon Madman at June 08, 2025 07:59 PM (4QOY7)

Thanks for the plug, Neon Madman and Weasel!
It seems that we continually get new shooters here with the same question - where do I start?
It got me thinking about the process and what I have found to work.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:15 PM (LMRVO)

124 I wanted to put this comment in the Food Thread, but it's to late for that now.

Wanted to mention that one of the restaurants I recommended the other day. Pisgah Fish camp in Brevard NC, was unfortunately put out of commission by Hurricane Helene and they decided 50 yrs of the business was enough.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 08, 2025 08:17 PM (Hw6WF)

125 It will be interesting to hear about barrel life on your new shooter.
Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:13 PM (LMRVO)
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Thanks,

I'm ordering a spare barrel next month. Lead times being what they are, I don't want to be caught short.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:19 PM (tT6L1)

126 Went on the Nightforce website and looked for scopes that had the MOAR-T reticle Weasel recommends.

The NXS 8-32 x 56mm looks really nice. And not as expensive as I thought. $2,100 or so.

Hmmm, that is not to expensive. Will not buy this year, but as a present for me next year?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 08:19 PM (CSqhN)

127 I just scanned the FT comments and we are going to have a wedding at TX MoMe X?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 08, 2025 08:20 PM (IQ6Gq)

128 The NXS 8-32 x 56mm looks really nice. And not as expensive as I thought. $2,100 or so.

Hmmm, that is not to expensive. Will not buy this year, but as a present for me next year?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 08:19 PM (CSqhN)
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Might want to look at the Zeuss LRP S3. But, Leupold's Mark 4 HD 8 x 32 was $1,600 or so. I put one on my new rifle and like it a lot. The zero stop is easy to set, too.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:23 PM (tT6L1)

129 we are going to have a wedding at TX MoMe X?
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 08, 2025 08:20 PM

We're gonna need a bigger horse trailer.

Posted by: Chief Brody at June 08, 2025 08:24 PM (0sNs1)

130 107 One of the local gun shops carries a lot of Turkish imports of different brands. The owner likes them for being generally reliable and well finished, but mostly the price he can put them out at. I just wish Tisa or any of the Turks would do an exact MILSPEC M1 carbine clone and keep it under $600. Also, if Congress gets their act together and eliminates the SBR nonsense clone a M1A1 SMG.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 08:24 PM (gm9Sb)

131 Well, I need to wander. Have a good one, folks!

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 08, 2025 08:25 PM (tT6L1)

132 Nation's Gunshow next weekend. sra blaster wants to buy me a firearm, joking - kind of - that she would get me a Kimber CDS9 also.

I like that pistol but I have a carry gun that I am totally okay with. I suggested a MAC-5 as it is in the same price range and hey SP5 clone.

But you know what? I don't actually want that either.

Is there something wrong with me?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 08:26 PM (QfvaV)

133 man, bitdefender is keeping me from reading comments on Ace of spades, at least with Mozilla....says expired certificate.... funny thing, went to Edge, and I can see comments...

Posted by: ziggyyyyeee at June 08, 2025 08:26 PM (K5Rdg)

134 Drew Estates ACID Extra Ordinary Larry. It is big. It is bold, and it is one favorite cigars. It is rumored to pair well with Speyside Scotches.

https://is.gd/46GnhD

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 08, 2025 08:28 PM (izWRC)

135 Wait, wait, wait. They only got to 27 before they ran out of names for galaxies? Who the heck put those people in charge of the science?

Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 08:29 PM (KoK5d)

136 Also, if Congress gets their act together and eliminates the SBR nonsense clone a M1A1 SMG.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 08:24 PM (gm9Sb)

Point of reference: Auto Ordinance makes an SBR of the M1 Thompson with an MSRP of $2,613. Factor in inflation and these are far cheaper today compared to when they were first introduced 100 years ago.

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 08:30 PM (BCwQW)

137 127 I just scanned the FT comments and we are going to have a wedding at TX MoMe X?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 08, 2025 08:20 PM
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That would require adjustments to the safety briefing, right?

Posted by: TRex at June 08, 2025 08:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

138 Time to call it a night.

Thanks for the thread Weasel and what I need to look for in a Nightforce scope.

Who knows, maybe I will be unveiling a new rig in NH next year.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 08, 2025 08:30 PM (CSqhN)

139 Is there something wrong with me?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 08, 2025 08:26 PM (QfvaV)

The real deal Benelli M4. You know both of you would like that shottie.

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 08:32 PM (BCwQW)

140 The less than lethal rounds they are using these days for riots, rubber bullets?

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 08:35 PM (CA3k/)

141 That would require adjustments to the safety briefing, right?
Posted by: TRex at June 08, 2025 08:30 PM

One of Ben Had's constant complaints is that the Horse Trailer safety briefings are roundly ignored.

Posted by: Chief Brody at June 08, 2025 08:35 PM (0sNs1)

142 That Sun Tzu, he was wise beyond his years.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2025 08:36 PM (vYDwg)

143 That u tube video “Behind Bars in Japan” is almost an hour long, probably over an hour with all the pink salt commercial interruptions. It was pretty sobering. I wouldn’t want to be accused of any crime in Japan. It doesn’t matter if you are guilty or innocent, you’re going to get railroaded either way!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 08:36 PM (qgNn3)

144 Good evening to the GunHorde
No range time but finished reloading enough.45 Colt for next week’s Cowboy shoot.
Took a couple of young folks out to the range last week.22 (pistol and rifle) to start and muzzle loaders to finish. Much smelly fun.
Thanks as always, Weasel! Hope everyone has a wonderful week ahead.

Posted by: Coelacanth at June 08, 2025 08:36 PM (FdjOh)

145 Cleanup on Aisle 44.
Retardo sighting.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:37 PM (30Gj0)

146 Thanks for the link to the CMP and the new manufacture Garands. I don't need more than the one I have but if I were looking, this would get my attention. I would like to see what the new ones in .308 could do in competition.

I was disgusted at the clowns in the comments bitching about the price, always along the lines of "my grandpa bought his for 3 bucks and a pack of gum seventy years ago". They even griped about paying 40 dollars for shipping. Sheesh!

Posted by: JTB at June 08, 2025 08:37 PM (yTvNw)

147 144. Fat fingered again.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:38 PM (30Gj0)

148 And the prison system in Japan is harsh to a Westerner. It’s harsh even for Japanese, but a Westerner would find it doubly so!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 08:39 PM (qgNn3)

149 Fun Fact: Neptunium melts at 639 ± 3 °C: this low melting point, a property the metal shares with the neighboring element plutonium (which has melting point 639.4 °C), is due to the hybridization of the 5f and 6d orbitals and the formation of directional bonds in the metal.

The boiling point of neptunium is not empirically known and the usually given value of 4174 °C is extrapolated from the vapor pressure of the element. If accurate, this would give neptunium the largest liquid range of any element (3535 K passes between its melting and boiling points).

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at June 08, 2025 08:39 PM (0sNs1)

150 Wait, rainmaker, are you encouraging us to shoot immigrants? That sounds very illegal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 08:40 PM (CA3k/)

151 143 When I was stationed in Iwakuni there were a couple Marines locked up in , I guess, the prefecture jailhouse awaiting trial or lets make a deal. They were allowed a welfare check visit a week and a case of c rats. They were kept segregated from the JN population.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 08:41 PM (gm9Sb)

152 Also, just not very nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 08:42 PM (CA3k/)

153 Democrats can put tens of thousands in the street!

Just imagine an entire army of David Hoggs and Dylan Mulvaneys, just as far as the eye can see.

Cover your sixes, peeple!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2025 08:43 PM (vYDwg)

154 2000 national guard and soon 500 marines.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:45 PM (m4pkx)

155 New standard production Garands will be $1900. Seeing how a new Marlin lever action is $1000, a new S&W N-frame starts at $1000, and a new Colt Gold Cup is $1400, I think the price is quite reasonable.

A Garand in 6.5 Creedmoor would be a nifty range toy.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 08:46 PM (d1dHP)

156 Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:45 PM (m4pkx)

Any reports of rooftop Koreans?

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 08:46 PM (BCwQW)

157 Hmmm, tens of thousands. That's an interesting number.

A lot of antifa were just being shipped from riot to riot.

They are expecting a lot of the illegal immigrant guys as shock troops.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 08:46 PM (CA3k/)

158 Can you get an M 1 Garand with a 30 shot banana?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:47 PM (m4pkx)

159 >>Thanks for the plug, Neon Madman and Weasel!

You have a blog? I did not know that.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2025 08:48 PM (viF8m)

160 No rooftop Koreans yet. I did see a convenience store clerk get hit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:49 PM (m4pkx)

161 Can you get an M 1 Garand with a 30 shot banana?
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:47 PM (m4pkx)

No. You are probably thinking about the M1 Carbine, which uses the pistol-sized .30 Carbine cartridge and did use a 30 round magazine.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 08:50 PM (d1dHP)

162 They burned some of those self driving ubers.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:50 PM (m4pkx)

163 No rooftop Koreans yet. I did see a convenience store clerk get hit.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:49 PM (m4pkx)

Hit?

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 08, 2025 08:51 PM (CA3k/)

164 Yes, Jackstraw, now that I’m retired again I have some extra time. Keeps me happy blogging about felines and firearms. Not felines with firearms, mind you.

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:51 PM (30Gj0)

165 154 and soon 500 Marines. Finally, a test of the AR platform's ability to deliver the tried and true horizontal buttstroke. "Oh, man! You busted my grill! I paid good money for that in TJ!".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 08:52 PM (gm9Sb)

166 The M1 carbine had better ammo and was more portable. They should probably have given them different names.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:53 PM (m4pkx)

167 And down goes the Banhammer!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:53 PM (30Gj0)

168
2000 national guard and soon 500 marines.
Posted by: Boss Moss

To be soon joined by one Texas Ranger.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 08:54 PM (/lPRQ)

169 Cover your sixes, peeple!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 08, 2025 08:43 PM

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: @ssless Chaps at June 08, 2025 08:54 PM (0sNs1)

170 How much are the LA "protests" paying?

Posted by: Stoner in his parents basement at June 08, 2025 08:55 PM (lIgBp)

171 Sporty in downtown Los Angeles. 6 Waymo cars on fire in ICE protests.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 08, 2025 08:55 PM (TfzRo)

172 This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: @ssless Chaps at June 08, 2025 08:54 PM (0sNs1)

I told you- you're supposed to wear regular pants under them!

Posted by: Random Straight antifa goon at June 08, 2025 08:56 PM (CA3k/)

173 When I was stationed in Iwakuni there were a couple Marines locked up in , I guess, the prefecture jailhouse awaiting trial or lets make a deal. They were allowed a welfare check visit a week and a case of c rats. They were kept segregated from the JN population.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 08:41 PM (gm9Sb)

One of my Marines on Okinawa was convicted of rape and thrown in the slammer there. That was over 30 years ago. If he's not dead, he's more than likely still there.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 08:56 PM (Hdixl)

174 Sporty in downtown Los Angeles. 6 Waymo cars on fire in ICE protests.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 08, 2025 08:55 PM (TfzRo)

Wait, friendly fire?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2025 08:57 PM (CA3k/)

175 They should probably have given them different names.

Like Betty or Wilma?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 08, 2025 08:57 PM (TfzRo)

176 >>Yes, Jackstraw, now that I’m retired again I have some extra time. Keeps me happy blogging about felines and firearms. Not felines with firearms, mind you.

You learn something new every day.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2025 08:57 PM (viF8m)

177
Sporty in downtown Los Angeles. 6 Waymo cars on fire in ICE protests.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats

Waymo than expected.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 08, 2025 08:58 PM (63Dwl)

178 Like Betty or Wilma?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 08, 2025 08:57 PM (TfzRo)

Have we ever added them to the Ginger/Maryanne 9 mm/.45 debate?

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:58 PM (30Gj0)

179 Punched. He was trying to defend the store without weapons.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:58 PM (m4pkx)

180 One of my Marines on Okinawa was convicted of rape and thrown in the slammer there. That was over 30 years ago. If he's not dead, he's more than likely still there.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen

30 years ago I was at Schofield Barracks.
There was a political shit storm because of a rape on Okinawa... and a senior officer saying the perps were a-holes, why didn't they just use a prostitute? OMG !!!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:00 PM (/lPRQ)

181 Peacefull arson.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:00 PM (m4pkx)

182 Was Retardo suggesting mostly peaceful target practice?

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 09:01 PM (30Gj0)

183 Gainesville woman charged with rape after allegedly buying drinks for victim and manipulating him into returning to her apartment

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I hate when that happens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 08, 2025 08:03 PM (L/fGl)

Was she that ugly?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:03 PM (gK870)

184 Are they protesting for or against internal combustion engines?
Being Commiefornia it's got to be against, I guess.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:03 PM (/lPRQ)

185 and a senior officer saying the perps were a-holes, why didn't they just use a prostitute? OMG !!!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:00 PM (/lPRQ)

It wasn't me, I swear! I was pretty junior and didn't say nuffin to nobody!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 08, 2025 09:03 PM (Hdixl)

186 Was Retardo suggesting mostly peaceful target practice?
Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 09:01 PM (30Gj0)
----
Please don't encourage trolls. Thanks.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 09:05 PM (aYmFI)

187 Gainesville woman charged with rape after allegedly buying drinks for victim and manipulating him into returning to her apartment

-
I hate when that happens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 08, 2025 08:03 PM (L/fGl)

Was she that ugly?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:03 PM

Poor guy was scared stiff.

Posted by: toby928 at June 08, 2025 09:05 PM (jc0TO)

188 man, bitdefender is keeping me from reading comments on Ace of spades, at least with Mozilla....says expired certificate.... funny thing, went to Edge, and I can see comments...
Posted by: ziggyyyyeee at June 08, 2025 08:26 PM (K5Rdg)

Get the Brave browser. Kills most of the ads dead, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:05 PM (gK870)

189 Finally, a test of the AR platform's ability to deliver the tried and true horizontal buttstroke. "Oh, man! You busted my grill! I paid good money for that in TJ!".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 08:52 PM (gm9Sb)

USMC combat arms (i.e. infantry) replaced the M-16 and M-4 with the H&K M27, a slightly modified variant of the H&K 416. H&K put on a thicker castle nut and replaced three round burst with full auto.

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 09:05 PM (BCwQW)

190 Weasel, time for me to bail. Thanks again for the Sunday night highlight.
And for passing on wisdom to our mini MoMe folks. We missed you and your spotting, but were forced to up our game!

Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 09:06 PM (30Gj0)

191 Back to guns. A couple weeks ago I picked up for cheap one of my favorite types of guns, the All American sock drawer special. Inexpensive revolver that shows the world even the poorest has a right to defend home and family. This was an H&R 632, .32 S&W long. A little cleaning, 0000 steel wool, and some cold blue brought it back to life. I ran half a box of Fiocchi wadcutters through it with no problem (they're loaded a little hotter for Euro target autos). It now waits for somebody in need with limited funds.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 09:07 PM (gm9Sb)

192 Hey, All. What have I missed? No boob talk, I hope.

Posted by: Bulg at June 08, 2025 09:08 PM (77rzZ)

193 man, bitdefender is keeping me from reading comments on Ace of spades, at least with Mozilla....says expired certificate

Try this. Double click in the URL bar, change https to http and hit enter. You'll probably still get some kind of warning but there should be something to click on to say "yeah, I know it's not safe, load it anyway."

Posted by: Oddbob at June 08, 2025 09:08 PM (/y8xj)

194 Gainesville woman charged with rape after allegedly buying drinks for victim and manipulating him into returning to her apartment

-
I hate when that happens.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 08, 2025 08:03 PM (L/fGl)

Was she that ugly?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I may have witnessed just such a thing in college.

I saw through an open door a guy passed out on floor with girl stradling him. I think he'd have to be out... Nobody would volunteer with her. The girl looked up, saw me, yeah we knew each other in the secular sense... Locked eyes with her... reached up... closed the door.

Better him than me.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:09 PM (/lPRQ)

195 Poor guy was scared stiff.
Posted by: toby928 at June 08, 2025 09:05 PM (jc0TO)

ISWYDT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:10 PM (gK870)

196 My uncle had a .32 but it seemed short or snub and a .380. He lijed small stuff for some reason.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:10 PM (m4pkx)

197 Howdy gun nuts!

No range time this weekend. But I did give a very good clean to the Ruger Mark IV. It’s crazy how dirty .22 is! But it’s such a fun plinker. I usually end every range visit relaxing and plinking 40 rounds or so.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2025 09:11 PM (mT+6a)

198 I like the idea of trigger fires release fires.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:12 PM (m4pkx)

199 Back to guns. A couple weeks ago I picked up for cheap one of my favorite types of guns, the All American sock drawer special. Inexpensive revolver that shows the world even the poorest has a right to defend home and family. This was an H&R 632, .32 S&W long. A little cleaning, 0000 steel wool, and some cold blue brought it back to life. I ran half a box of Fiocchi wadcutters through it with no problem (they're loaded a little hotter for Euro target autos). It now waits for somebody in need with limited funds.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door

32 Long !?
Good Lord. You going on safari?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:13 PM (/lPRQ)

200 Finally got the good-for-nothing production staff off their butts, and now about half a case of 45ACP loaded. Then on to 30 carbine, 30-06 food for the M1s, and 9mikemike.

Empty ammo cans are one of the saddest sights there is.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 08, 2025 09:14 PM (1m82a)

201 Back to guns. A couple weeks ago I picked up for cheap one of my favorite types of guns, the All American sock drawer special. Inexpensive revolver that shows the world even the poorest has a right to defend home and family. This was an H&R 632, .32 S&W long. A little cleaning, 0000 steel wool, and some cold blue brought it back to life. I ran half a box of Fiocchi wadcutters through it with no problem (they're loaded a little hotter for Euro target autos). It now waits for somebody in need with limited funds.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 09:07 PM (gm9Sb)

I have one of its stable-mates, an H&R hammerless 5-shot top-break revolver. It needs a new mainspring, as it has a weak primer strike. Quite accurate when it does go Bang! And very pretty nickel plate, with few flaws. It is chambered in .32 S&W short, which is hard to find.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:14 PM (gK870)

202 New elite military force?

https://youtu.be/oyCBh6veFJw

Advance to 24:20

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 08, 2025 09:14 PM (VNX3d)

203 Weasel, time for me to call it a night. See you next week!

Posted by: Ed L at June 08, 2025 09:14 PM (BCwQW)

204 Anybody heard from whig?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2025 09:15 PM (mT+6a)

205 The gophers were being coy today, so no range report from stately Peon Manor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:15 PM (gK870)

206 OK, 9:16 thank you time.

Thank you and hope to see you next week.

Open thread to discuss the LA Retards if you like.

Posted by: Weasel at June 08, 2025 09:16 PM (jH5TK)

207 Doesn’t anybody talk about boobs on this thread?

Posted by: Bulg at June 08, 2025 09:17 PM (77rzZ)

208 Anybody heard from whig?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 08, 2025 09:15 PM (mT+6a)

No word that I saw. I think TJM said he had sent him an email.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2025 09:17 PM (zZu0s)

209 I remember that 30 year old case in Okinawa, particularly that the officer got in trouble for making a thoughtless but true observation.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 08, 2025 09:17 PM (qgNn3)

210 Prices on the Garmin Xero Chrono are coming down.
Bunch of places now have it at $550. I would really like to get one.
Checking places to see if I can wrangle a veteran dicsount on top of that.

imagine tiny tiny font here...

Because my conventional Chrono is a pain to set up in front of the line and... I kind of shot it through and through last time I used it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:18 PM (/lPRQ)

211 199 Heh. 32 long. Good Lord, going on safari? Joe Scarborogh's dimwitted wife once said people hunting with an AR were trying to blow up the deer

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 09:18 PM (gm9Sb)

212 Horsies.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:18 PM (m4pkx)

213 Doesn’t anybody talk about boobs on this thread?
Posted by: Bulg at June 08, 2025 09:17 PM (77rzZ)

Well, since Weasel just gave the all clear, I should probably scrap the bullet bra theme.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2025 09:18 PM (zZu0s)

214 3.5% seems a bit low on remittances.

They do not want to discourage the illegals.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2025 09:20 PM (zZu0s)

215 Those Waygos must be electric. Burning down to the ground.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:21 PM (m4pkx)

216 201 AOP, I have tinkered with top breaks of many flavors for a long time (getting to be seldom due to arthritis in the hands). .32 S&W (short) is hard to find, but long not so much. Get a plinker in .32 long and shorten the cases for your top break.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 09:22 PM (gm9Sb)

217 I know several people have likely already said it, without even looking at the comments....

But I will reiterate:
Stay frosty and keep your head on a swivel. The freaks are feeling emboldened again. CARRY EVERYWHERE (multiple options). Train for the situation. And stay out of stupid places.

And if you see National Guardsmen, go elsewhere.

Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 09:22 PM (KoK5d)

218 Guns!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 08, 2025 09:23 PM (xcxpd)

219 201 AOP, I have tinkered with top breaks of many flavors for a long time (getting to be seldom due to arthritis in the hands). .32 S&W (short) is hard to find, but long not so much. Get a plinker in .32 long, do some shootin' and shorten the cases for your top break.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 08, 2025 09:23 PM (gm9Sb)

220 And... (spoiler alert) good shooting by the cops in the Highway Patrol episode tonight! (Bad guy did NOT have his head on a swivel.)

Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 09:23 PM (KoK5d)

221 I remember that 30 year old case in Okinawa, particularly that the officer got in trouble for making a thoughtless but true observation.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

IIRC He ws the commanding general.
I think Bill Clinton (of all people) recalled him and whacked him on the peepee.

Big protests on Okinawa - how dare those American pigs think we'd sell our daughters - it's the Thai and Filipina we bring on 'entertainer visas' tht we sell!

Anyway. Bases still there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:23 PM (/lPRQ)

222 So much for the Environment and Global Warming in LA by burning all those cars in the mostly peaceful protests....

Posted by: Franklin Stein at June 08, 2025 09:24 PM (FDlb9)

223 Hullo morons.
Did get some range time in this week. I replaced the striker spring on my G30 and got improvement. I did get 1 light primer strike out of 40 rounds, but that's much better than 1 per 5 rounds. We'll test again next week.

The G26 continues to impress me...when using OEM Glock parts. The thick grip, especially paired with the Magpul 12 round mags, works well for me. I got good hits with double taps, and one handed drills.

Check one out, if you can control it, the G26 performs better than expected, at least for me.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 08, 2025 09:25 PM (xcxpd)

224 AOP, I have tinkered with top breaks of many flavors for a long time (getting to be seldom due to arthritis in the hands). .32 S&W (short) is hard to find, but long not so much. Get a plinker in .32 long and shorten the cases for your top break.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door

Starline Brass always has .32 short.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:25 PM (/lPRQ)

225 That Schoefield Barracks has been in the News right much over the Years.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:25 PM (m4pkx)

226 217 I know several people have likely already said it, without even looking at the comments....

But I will reiterate:
Stay frosty and keep your head on a swivel. The freaks are feeling emboldened again. CARRY EVERYWHERE (multiple options). Train for the situation. And stay out of stupid places.

And if you see National Guardsmen, go elsewhere.
Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 09:22 PM (KoK5d)

This is good advice, all of it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 08, 2025 09:26 PM (xcxpd)

227 Dumb chronograph question: weren't the original chronographs made with double mesh screens that registered a contact closure when the slug passed through? Two such arrays spaced X feet apart would give you two contact closures, spaced apart in time, from which a velocity could be calculated.

I also think I recall reading about a "poor man's chrono" that consisted of a cylinder of graph paper standing on a phonograph turntable. Fire a round through it, and measure the displacement of the second hole from the exact 180 degree opposite expected if the round went at infinite velocity (or the cylinder were stationary).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:26 PM (gK870)

228 212 Horsies.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:18 PM (m4pkx)

We call 'dibs' in most of the country, not Hoisies.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at June 08, 2025 09:26 PM (xcxpd)

229 The insurance company for Waymo is going to have some words.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at June 08, 2025 09:26 PM (zZu0s)

230 The next Governor of Commiefornica has weighed in with another Einsteinian comment.........

'DANGEROUS ESCALATION'

Former VP (Hooker) Harris calls Trump admin response to LA riot ‘cruel, calculated’

Posted by: Franklin Stein at June 08, 2025 09:27 PM (FDlb9)

231 You'd think they'd move the horses further away from the smoke.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:29 PM (m4pkx)

232 The M1 carbine had better ammo and was more portable. They should probably have given them different names.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 08:53 PM (m4pkx)

Also lacking interchangeably are the M2 Carbine and the M2 .50 caliber machine gun, even though both are full auto weapons.

Now, about the M1 Abrams tank...

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 09:29 PM (d1dHP)

233 I’m not sure what type of CAO I’m burning tonight but it’s small gauge and had a cedar (?) wrapper around half to two-thirds of the open end. Figured this would be a quick burn but it looks like I’m going to get an hour or so out of it.

Went to the local gunshow yesterday and bought three hundred round packs of Federal 223 blasting ammo for $40 each, about as cheap as online. Some guy was selling a barely opened jug of Win244 so I bought that too. By the scale it looks like he maybe used two ounces or so.

Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 08, 2025 09:30 PM (2VTt6)

234 Time for me to bail. Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 08, 2025 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)

235 Hey GI... You got Girlfriend Vietnam...

Me loves you long time for 5 dollar....

Posted by: Kami "Ho Chi Minh" Harris at June 08, 2025 09:32 PM (fCSCO)

236 but I might be able to roadtrip it
Posted by: screaming in digital at June 08, 2025 07:29 PM (DnMuk)

It looks like I will not be able to help this year. I had an event pop up.

Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 09:33 PM (KoK5d)

237 5 dollar beaucoup money. 3 dollar 50 cents.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:33 PM (m4pkx)

238 >>Those Waygos must be electric. Burning down to the ground

Waymo. Yep, fully electric.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2025 09:33 PM (viF8m)

239 Former VP (Hooker) Harris calls Trump admin response to LA riot ‘cruel, calculated’
Posted by: Franklin Stein

I do hope Trump talking about stopping the rioting in general is just smoke and noise - nobody cares about the dumbasses burning and looting their own hood. Cali politicians (aka "The Leaders") made it clear they support think. Not one cent to rebuild.

But, the federal building need to be protected with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:33 PM (/lPRQ)

240 Dumb chronograph question: weren't the original chronographs made with double mesh screens that registered a contact closure when the slug passed through? Two such arrays spaced X feet apart would give you two contact closures, spaced apart in time, from which a velocity could be calculated.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:26 PM (gK870)

Yes, indeed. Those original paper screens, which had to be replaced for each shot, allowed advanced hobbyists to measure velocity at home for the first time. Prior to that, they had to send their loads off to a laboratory to get them tested.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 09:36 PM (d1dHP)

241 >>Those Waygos must be electric. Burning down to the ground

Waymo. Yep, fully electric.
Posted by: JackStraw
===

If they are 'protesting ICE' why are they torching electric cars?

Oh, because they just like to destroy shit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:37 PM (/lPRQ)

242 5 dollar beaucoup money.

5 dollar, for both.

Posted by: toby928 at June 08, 2025 09:38 PM (jc0TO)

243 I do hope Trump talking about stopping the rioting in general is just smoke and noise - nobody cares about the dumbasses burning and looting their own hood. Cali politicians (aka "The Leaders") made it clear they support think. Not one cent to rebuild.

But, the federal building need to be protected with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:33 PM (/lPRQ)

Just declare the rioters outlaw in the original strict sense of the word: no longer protected by law. Any citizen who wants to bag one can do so, and not be charged with any offense. Put a bounty on their heads.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:40 PM (gK870)

244 >>If they are 'protesting ICE' why are they torching electric cars?

I've been watching the video coming out of LA for a few hours. Most of the hardocre protesters seem to be a combination of illegals, many Mexicans, with a smattering of Allahu Akbars tossed in.

From some of the reports on X this is going to go off in other cities over the next few days/weeks.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 08, 2025 09:42 PM (viF8m)

245 Muslim Brotherhood and SEIU.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 08, 2025 09:44 PM (m4pkx)

246 Prices on the Garmin Xero Chrono are coming down. There are a couple of new players in the game now too! Labradar has a new much smaller and better unit. Athlon has a great new unit too, as well as Caldwell. They're all competitive pricewise. The Caldwell and Labradar units calculate your true Ballistic coefficient as well.

Posted by: ck at June 08, 2025 09:44 PM (nMOLw)

247 I haven't heard of measuring bullet velocity with a rotating drum target, though it would theoretically be possible if you got a big enough drum spinning fast enough.

I do know that shotgun experimenters would shoot at rotating drum targets to learn about what those pellets are actually doing. It turns out the pellets travel in a "cloud" formation, and not in a flat disc shape.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 09:45 PM (d1dHP)

248 Prices on the Garmin Xero Chrono are coming down.
Bunch of places now have it at $550. I would really like to get one.

Check into the Athlon competitor. From the YouTube vids, seems very comparable but ~$200 cheaper. Maybe won't impress the range babes as much though.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 08, 2025 09:47 PM (/y8xj)

249 164 Yes, Jackstraw, now that I’m retired again I have some extra time. Keeps me happy blogging about felines and firearms. Not felines with firearms, mind you.
Posted by: RI Red at June 08, 2025 08:51 PM (30Gj0)
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http://disq.us/p/3343xfh

Posted by: andycanuck at June 08, 2025 09:47 PM (2yoRf)

250 Thanks Weasel and good evening Horde.

Posted by: TRex at June 08, 2025 09:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

251 Yes, indeed. Those original paper screens, which had to be replaced for each shot, allowed advanced hobbyists to measure velocity at home for the first time. Prior to that, they had to send their loads off to a laboratory to get them tested.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 09:36 PM (d1dHP)

OK. Dumb idea time. Make two discs of styrofoam insulation board, each say 3 feet in diameter. Mount them 3 feet apart on a common axle. Use your computer printer to print out paper segments to stick on those discs, with radial lines "X" minutes apart. "X" being chosen such that, with a set rotary speed for the axle, X represents one millisecond of travel time between the discs. Three feet of travel in one millisecond = 3000 FPS.

The styrofoam discs ought to last for a hundred rounds or so before being totally torn up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:49 PM (gK870)

252 >>> Additionally, approximately 500 Marines from 2nd Battalion, 7th Marines at Twentynine Palms, California, are in a prepared to deploy status should they be necessary to augment and support the DoD’s protection of federal property and personnel efforts.

Twentynine Palms?
Marines are gonna be PO'd if pulled out of that paradise for some riot.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:51 PM (/lPRQ)

253 Twentynine Palms?
Marines are gonna be PO'd if pulled out of that paradise for some riot.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
*********
OK, I laughed....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at June 08, 2025 09:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

254 Twentynine Palms?
Marines are gonna be PO'd if pulled out of that paradise for some riot.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 08, 2025 09:51 PM (/lPRQ)

https://youtu.be/Vxr7shrLB9w?si=eCMBfFVXDP-uhfud

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:56 PM (gK870)

255 a cylinder of graph paper standing on a phonograph turntable
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 08, 2025 09:26 PM (gK870)

Are you going for a record there?

Also, who has a turntable they can take to the range?!

Posted by: GWB at June 08, 2025 09:56 PM (KoK5d)

256 253 Twentynine Palms?
Marines are gonna be PO'd if pulled out of that paradise for some riot.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

The Boys of Barstow have entered the chat.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 08, 2025 09:57 PM (W/lyH)

257 If you really want to get old school for measuring velocity, make a ballistic pendulum.

Fashion a swinging target that will capture the bullet. Carefully measure the mass that is going to swing. Rig up a recording device to measure how far the target swings when it is hit. Dig out your Physics 101 textbook.

Calculate the work that was done and the energy required to do it. This should be the same as the bullet's energy. Knowing the mass of the bullet, you can calculate the velocity.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 08, 2025 09:59 PM (d1dHP)

258 test

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 08, 2025 10:00 PM (QRFVs)

259 NOOD

ONT

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 08, 2025 10:01 PM (QRFVs)

260 Was she that ugly?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I'd rate her a 1-. (But then, I'm an old man.)

https://shorturl.at/9ARYm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, And You're Not at June 08, 2025 10:06 PM (L/fGl)

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