Animal Bandits Cafe

The Pont du Gard, the tallest of the Roman aqueducts
by Roberto Ferrari

Every dog is a food-thief. Even the goodest boys.

Beware the police dog! Very dangerous!

Martian sunset.

Shopkeeper adopts a cat who keeps wandering in to steal his snacks.

This dog has lost all of his primal instincts.

Buffalo crossing a stream.

A brand-new spring opens up in Scotland.

A couple of goofy donkeys may give you a smile.

Donkey is bamboozled by a mural.

Geese are equally hoodwinked.

Soccer bull.

Catch me if you can..🐿️💨😅 pic.twitter.com/boz7LAq6vw
— 𝕐o̴g̴ (@Yoda4ever) June 5, 2025

You pet me, I pet you back..🦭😍 pic.twitter.com/gXUWynlQOr
— 𝕐o̴g̴ (@Yoda4ever) June 4, 2025

On Monday I posted about the hungry elephant who wandered into a convenience store in Thailand helped himself to the eggs and rice cakes.

🐘 An elephant wandered into a supermarket in Thailand and helped itself to eggs and rice cakes before getting stuck in an aisle as it tried to plot an escape.

Full story here: https://t.co/SejuMiS3Ow pic.twitter.com/NbpTp8DVzR
— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) June 4, 2025

Typically, islands don't float. However, floating bogs do exist as an artificial phenomenon.

Residents in Wisconsin collectively joined their boats to move a giant floating bog on the Chippewa Flowage.

[📹AirFox Photography]pic.twitter.com/vDhVT3eX3M
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) May 30, 2025

Careful not to tip it over, fellas.

Posted by: Ace at 07:26 PM

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Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:29 PM (ic2Gw)

2 First.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 05, 2025 07:29 PM (U0o6X)

3 Mars revolves like a cheap wristwatch. Earth has that sweep second hand motion watch owners and habitable planets crave.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 05, 2025 07:29 PM (wzAuc)

4
What a day.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 07:30 PM (fmaTH)

5 Resident Alien comes back tomorrow at 11 PM.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 05, 2025 07:32 PM (U0o6X)

6 I guess nobody is surprised that Musk is a flake.

Posted by: fd at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (vFG9F)

7 What have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

8 >>On Monday I posted about the hungry elephant who wandered into a convenience store in Thailand helped himself to the eggs and rice cakes.

I was hoping you were going to post that. It obviously wasn't AI.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (viF8m)

9 Roads. Aqueducts.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 05, 2025 07:34 PM (U0o6X)

10 Greg Gutfeld called the hungry elephant Michael Moore on his show

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 05, 2025 07:36 PM (U0o6X)

11 Snausages.

Posted by: wth at June 05, 2025 07:36 PM (v0R5T)

12 hat have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

The comb over?

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 07:38 PM (VofaG)

13 Roads. Aqueducts.

Well, a non-aqua duck would just be a chicken now wouldn't it?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2025 07:38 PM (vIgP8)

14
I guess nobody is surprised that Musk is a flake.
Posted by: fd

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He can put his feet up and enjoy link #3.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (fmaTH)

15 Many images of Mars that I've seen (but not the one above) remind me of Sedona. If we ever manage to build some kind of settlement there, within a year I bet there will be people celebrating its "vibrant local art scene" and its "five-star cuisine".

Posted by: Paco at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (mADJX)

16 Willowed - Blonde Morticia, I have no doubt that due to the collapsed civic culture Homan and DOJ have a tricky set of pitfalls to avoid. Juries in most of "blue" "America" are unlikely to convict a public official who's obviously guilty of flagrantly committing felonies (as many thousands are WRT immigration law, aiding/sheltering).

And with one idiotic jury pulling an OJ, it will be formally and undeniably confirmed that the last shred of rule of law has simply vanished, beyond that which can be enforced by federal action.

But wondering if the incitement angle, where these vile worms are slandering and raising the threat level for ICE and others, might be easier to get a conviction. Probably not.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (1m82a)

17 If the shopkeeper actually adopted the cat, I don't think it can be called stealing. Mooching would be a better term.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (5yDGQ)

18 Clearly Big Penguin is establishing a beachhead in Thailand through influencing elephants into bad behaviours.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (0sNs1)

19 Romans gave us trian's gauge.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 05, 2025 07:40 PM (o+C8N)

20 7 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

They gave us toga parties. Everybody should go to a toga party at least once.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 05, 2025 07:41 PM (pIfcn)

21 >I guess nobody is surprised that Musk is a flake.

Not a flake. Naive about Washington DC, like first term Trump.

Posted by: davidt at June 05, 2025 07:42 PM (i0F8b)

22 I guess nobody is surprised that Musk is a flake.

Everything everyone is saying about Musk is what was said about Trump by everyone that didn't want his crazy ass close to the White House.

Is it all true ? Maybe. Maybe Musk is crazier than a loon. Just like Trump.

Do you want your Norms Restored ? Back to a better day when we had Bushes and more Bushes to keep a Reagan in check and two parties working together to make sure a crazy fuck like Ross Perot only got 20% of the vote and new campaign laws to make sure his like never happened again ?

All the talk about Musk today reminds me of all the talk about Trump back in 2015.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:43 PM (2AUcf)

23 I guess nobody is surprised that Musk is a flake.

Posted by: fd at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (vFG9F)

Not necessarily a flake. Politically unstable? Almost certainly.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:44 PM (ic2Gw)

24 Latin has given us ~60% of the English language.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 07:44 PM (0sNs1)

25 Maybe Musk will run for President.

Posted by: davidt at June 05, 2025 07:44 PM (i0F8b)

26 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

Romano cheese?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:45 PM (ic2Gw)

27 I'm hoping it's a ploy to get Musk back in business. But if not... he's going to Mars anyway.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 05, 2025 07:45 PM (bLe0J)

28 The Bushes were politically stable. You like that better ?

The Clintons apparently were "politically stable". Same for Obama. Same even for Biden. How did that work out for you
?

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:45 PM (2AUcf)

29 Many images of Mars that I've seen (but not the one above) remind me of Sedona. If we ever manage to build some kind of settlement there, within a year I bet there will be people celebrating its "vibrant local art scene" and its "five-star cuisine".

Posted by: Paco at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (mADJX)

It will have the burning man stench of hippies.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:46 PM (ic2Gw)

30 The Chairman of Big Penguin, taking a sardine from a tin of 50 Pilchard Perfectos: "This fellow Duncanthrax. Finish him."

Posted by: Paco at June 05, 2025 07:46 PM (mADJX)

31 Pepperoni.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 05, 2025 07:46 PM (U0o6X)

32 Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:45 PM (2AUcf)

Show us on the doll where BADORANGEMAN touched you.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:47 PM (ic2Gw)

33 You know what all this talk today reminds me of ? And look - this is a reach, because I obviously wasn't there and I don't read the book all that much.

But if some fucking upstart had the audacity to walk in and flip the money tables ? All the usual folks her would cluck their tongues and clack about "that's just not how you do business".

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:47 PM (2AUcf)

34 Can anyone ID the nationality of the police with the dog?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 07:47 PM (XeU6L)

35 If the shopkeeper actually adopted the cat, I don't think it can be called stealing. Mooching would be a better term.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
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We called that skeeching.

Hey, can I skeech a smoke?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 05, 2025 07:47 PM (ITkJX)

36 29 It will have the burning man stench of hippies. - Comrade Flounder

So I fear. I envision inflated real estate prices, too.

Posted by: Paco at June 05, 2025 07:48 PM (mADJX)

37 TOGA

TOGA

TOGA

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 07:48 PM (hpzqB)

38 Show us on the doll where BADORANGEMAN touched you.

Show me on the same doll where Big Republican Establishment Status Quo jacked you off to sleep.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:48 PM (2AUcf)

39 Last night's Café nominee for an under-appreciated word, paucity, comes from the Latin paucitas meaning "fewness, scarcity," derived from paucus "few".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 07:48 PM (0sNs1)

40 >>The Clintons apparently were "politically stable". Same for Obama. Same even for Biden. How did that work out for you

Like an elephant in a Thai food store.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 07:49 PM (viF8m)

41 The Chairman of Big Penguin, taking a sardine from a tin of 50 Pilchard Perfectos: "This fellow Duncanthrax. Finish him."
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And get the priest as well.

Posted by: Dr. X at June 05, 2025 07:49 PM (TN0g+)

42 Musk named his son X Æ A-12 .

He’s a genius but one of those flaky geniuses.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 07:49 PM (VofaG)

43 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

Candles.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, cowhand of the Apocalypse at June 05, 2025 07:50 PM (4ms1f)

44 Show me on the same doll where Big Republican Establishment Status Quo jacked you off to sleep.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:48 PM (2AUcf)

How clever.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:50 PM (ic2Gw)

45 Remember Musk also gave up some of his left leaning tendencies when his son became a tranny.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 07:50 PM (VofaG)

46 How clever.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:50 PM

The Rubber-Glue technique. Do right, no defense.

Posted by: toby928 at June 05, 2025 07:51 PM (jc0TO)

47 Raggedy Ann being rejected on the View proves there actually IS someone dumber than Sunny Hostin

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 07:52 PM (2VST1)

48 Tesla stock is down 14% today. Musk is going to have some angry shareholders to answer to if he keeps this up.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 07:52 PM (viF8m)

49 On the boat heading back to the beach! Beautiful
Day.

Anything interesting happen?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 07:53 PM (wlyRx)

50 Last night's Café nominee for an under-appreciated word, paucity, comes from the Latin paucitas meaning "fewness, scarcity," derived from paucus "few".
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Now do 'Surfeit'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 07:53 PM (XeU6L)

51 How clever.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:50 PM

By clever you mean non witty stupid straw man

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 07:53 PM (VofaG)

52 Like an elephant in a Thai food store.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 07:49 PM (viF8m)

Yep. As much as you and I used to fight, and still squabble ? You get it as much as I do.

The current Status Quo is not working. At best, I'll die before the last musical chair runs out. That's a shitty legacy to leave.

It only goes on like this, at some point, because we all sat in public school while taught the greatness of the Two Party System. Great my ass.

Yet still, some folks love them some Patrician Families. Bander used to say as much. He at least got points for admitting it.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:54 PM (2AUcf)

53 Islands do so float, I saw Dr Doolittle

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 07:54 PM (2VST1)

54 Now do 'Surfeit'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 07:53 PM (XeU6L)

That beach over there? Charlie don't surfeit.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 07:54 PM (ic2Gw)

55 Noble Roman pizza.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2025 07:56 PM (63Dwl)

56 18 Clearly Big Penguin is establishing a beachhead in Thailand through influencing elephants into bad behaviours.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (0sNs1)

Big Elephant stealing shit? now we know where Sen. McConnel disappeared to...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 07:57 PM (mP0Kj)

57 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

They gave us toga parties. Everybody should go to a toga party at least once.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here
......

And vomitoriums. For after the toga party.

Posted by: wth at June 05, 2025 07:57 PM (v0R5T)

58 Islands do so float, I saw Dr Doolittle
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 07:54 PM (2VST1)

You also have the Coeur D’Alene golf course and their floating island.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 07:59 PM (VofaG)

59 It only goes on like this, at some point, because we all sat in public school while taught the greatness of the Two Party System.
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I fully embrace that there has been grift as long as there has been government. But I truly believe the "compounding" effect didn't fully kick in until the last 20 years or so. I believe that even liberal shitholes like Oakland and Chicago and NYC once upon a time used to believe that you had to fix the potholes (so to speak) to get to stay in line for the grifting buffet.

But at some point EVERY politician just figured out "The hell with this" and made EVERYTHING about the grift, figuring (correctly) that the more the money the more the power to fix elections and buy off judges and electorates and vote counters. At some point it all flipped, and we went from "some of the system is bad" to "most of the system is downright fraud and grift and evil, and what little of it isn't will be snuffed out shortly."

Posted by: Crusader at June 05, 2025 07:59 PM (TN0g+)

60 He’s a genius but one of those flaky geniuses.

Remember his freakout telling America to F themselves in the face that he'd go to war with us on this about H1B hires? LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:00 PM (2VST1)

61 Now do 'Surfeit'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 07:53 PM

Surfiet has traveled farther from Latin than paucity has.

It's Latin root is facere. The 'c' was dropped on the path from Old French to Middle English, where facere became faire ("to do") and sur- was added to make the verb surfaire, meaning "to overdo." It is the Anglo-French noun surfet ("excess"), however, that Middle English borrowed, eventually settling on the spelling surfeit.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:00 PM (0sNs1)

62 By clever you mean non witty stupid straw man
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 07:53 PM (VofaG)

It's Scogg, running true to form.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:01 PM (Cbb9L)

63 6 I guess nobody is surprised that Musk is a flake.
Posted by: fd

No. Brilliant but erratic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 05, 2025 08:02 PM (6PUpl)

64 That elephant is my spirit animal.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:02 PM (6ydKt)

65 Remember his freakout telling America to F themselves in the face that he'd go to war with us on this about H1B hires? LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:00 PM (2VST1)

Wasn't that that Indian fraud that got sideline relatively quickly?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:02 PM (ic2Gw)

66 It's Scogg, running true to form.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:01 PM (Cbb9L)

Ahh.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:03 PM (ic2Gw)

67 Tesla stock is down 14% today. Musk is going to have some angry shareholders to answer to if he keeps this up.

You know ... I kind of saw this. Back during Obama.

GE Appliance Park dedicated an entire building ... and granted, they were about 1/3 what they were back in the 60s when Louisville was cranking out appliances ... but yet, an entire building, and funding, to that stupid fucking hybrid water heater.

Yet people followed, because Obama and Jeff Immelt thought they were going to re-create the FDR era. They were simply going to create demand. They were just going to wave money and people would follow, obey, and innovate.

I wonder about Musk. Because he's got where he is, in not short part, by taking money that wasn't his.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:04 PM (2AUcf)

68 Wasn't that that Indian fraud that got sideline relatively quickly?

Yeah that got disappeared really fast, even Elon backed down right away and apologized.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:04 PM (2VST1)

69 The Pont du Gard is magnificent. It worked for hundred of years until the locals got too lazy and stupid to maintain it.

Kind of like what’s happening with our infrastructure now.

Posted by: Pete Bog at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM (PVcx/)

70 Remember like 5 minutes ago when leftists insisted Musk was the real president and Trump was just his puppet?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM (viF8m)

71 57 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 05, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

They gave us toga parties. Everybody should go to a toga party at least once.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here
......

And vomitoriums. For after the toga party.
Posted by: wth at June 05, 2025 07:57 PM (v0R5T)

Damn.... 1986 threw a Toga Party for Navy Relief in a Communications station Enlisted Club on Oahu.

We hired a Band, who somehow didn't get told it was a Toga Party, and when they showed up in normal clothes, some of our Navy Ladies took them off, and dressed them in Togas... and that was BEFORE the party started.

We came up with a new rating system for parties after that one... how many divorces are directly attributed to actions at the party.... magic number was.... Five...

I was soon relieved of my 'duties' as Pres of the Enlisted club... although they did leave my Nameplate on my favorite barstool.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM (mP0Kj)

72 IIRC, Scoggie was fairly normal to start. Was he running an 'op' to gain trust before transitioning, or did he just go off the rails into Sidistan?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM (0sNs1)

73 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:00 PM (2VST1)

Sorry. My mistake. I falsely attributed that to Vivek.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:06 PM (ic2Gw)

74 I wonder about Musk. Because he's got where he is, in not short part, by taking money that wasn't his.

And he's a bit of a tech fetishist, he's very upset that Trump ended the tax breaks for EVs. Doesn't make him entirely wrong or bad, just he has his flaws.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:06 PM (2VST1)

75 Surfiet has traveled farther from Latin than paucity has.
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Thanks. Interesting.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 08:07 PM (XeU6L)

76 If only you spend as much time winning your arguments as you do screaming "heretic".

Am I Scogg ? Am I wrong ? It should be so much easier to prove the second part. Just prove me wrong.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:07 PM (2AUcf)

77 You know what you faggots need? An extended lecture, and I'm here to provide one.

Posted by: Dyke Weakarms at June 05, 2025 08:07 PM (5tpFp)

78 So. Boned?

Posted by: gKWVE at June 05, 2025 08:07 PM (gKWVE)

79 34 Can anyone ID the nationality of the police with the dog?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 07:47 PM (XeU6L)

Shirt patch says "Madrid" so Spain.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:08 PM (6ydKt)

80 We came up with a new rating system for parties after that one... how many divorces are directly attributed to actions at the party.... magic number was.... Five...

I was soon relieved of my 'duties' as Pres of the Enlisted club... although they did leave my Nameplate on my favorite barstool.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM

Clearly, you were in dire need of the beneficent influence and supervision of some Supply Corp O-4s and -5s.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:08 PM (0sNs1)

81 And he's a bit of a tech fetishist, he's very upset that Trump ended the tax breaks for EVs. Doesn't make him entirely wrong or bad, just he has his flaws.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:06 PM (2VST1)

He has said he's OK with the end of the tax break, because Tesla has a commanding lead in the market for electric cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:08 PM (Cbb9L)

82
Wasn't that that Indian fraud that got sideline relatively quickly?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

Ramaswamy. Now running for Ohio governor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2025 08:09 PM (63Dwl)

83 Many images of Mars that I've seen (but not the one above) remind me of Sedona. If we ever manage to build some kind of settlement there, within a year I bet there will be people celebrating its "vibrant local art scene" and its "five-star cuisine".
Posted by: Paco at June 05, 2025 07:39 PM (mADJX)

Don't forget the people looking for peyote.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 08:10 PM (VNX3d)

84 He has said he's OK with the end of the tax break, *because* Tesla has a commanding lead in the market for electric cars.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:08 PM (Cbb9L)

How noble. Analysts disagree that it is a nothingburger for Tesla. Markets seem mixed on the prospect.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:10 PM (ic2Gw)

85 Islands do so float, I saw Dr Doolittle
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 07:54 PM (2VST1)

The dog is Belgian 😀

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:10 PM (VofaG)

86 Huge efforts were spent by almost every journalist and politician in the world to split Trump and Musk apart, by exploiting any rumor, innuendo, misunderstanding.
They played on Trump's ego by insinuating he is Musk's puppet, they played on Musk's ego by insinuating he isn't getting the appreciation he deserves for his work. Remember the snark around Musk's boy's visit to the White House?
Lots of politicians and journalists around the world will be happy tonight.

Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 08:10 PM (afPT4)

87 53 Islands do so float, I saw Dr Doolittle
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 07:54 PM (2VST1)
Capsize too.

Posted by: Eromero at June 05, 2025 08:11 PM (LHPAg)

88 And he's a bit of a tech fetishist, he's very upset that Trump ended the tax breaks for EVs. Doesn't make him entirely wrong or bad, just he has his flaws.

I'm more than a bit of a fine beer fetishist. But you'll never see me making the Conservative Case for Subsidizing My Beer. Because I'll either afford it or I won't. And either Becks will license it here (they do) or I'll pick another brand not from Mexico ... because all their brands really do suck.

If I have to pay ... and that's a subsidy ... for an EV ? That's bullshit. I don't expect anyone to subsidize my F-350.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:11 PM (2AUcf)

89 Kind of like what’s happening with our infrastructure now.

Yeah this is a real problem. We're getting to be like the Muslim takeover of Egypt where they stopped caring about the pyramids and temples as monuments and started stripping them for building materials. Or medieval England after Rome left.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:11 PM (2VST1)

90 Capsize too.
Posted by: Eromero at June 05, 2025 08:11 PM

See? People ridicule me, but I am right!

Posted by: Hank Johnson at June 05, 2025 08:12 PM (0sNs1)

91 Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:08 PM (0sNs1)

You are much too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:12 PM (2AUcf)

92 I was soon relieved of my 'duties' as Pres of the Enlisted club... although they did leave my Nameplate on my favorite barstool.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM

Clearly, you were in dire need of the beneficent influence and supervision of some Supply Corp O-4s and -5s.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:08 PM (0sNs1)

LOL... same year as our XO, Navy Captain, was relieved and transferred for having a bit of an affair with an enlisted chick... Yeah, she was HAWT... and I can personally testify she was good in the sack... but...

Only Navy Command I ever saw that was 50% Female. Barracks were off the hook.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 08:12 PM (mP0Kj)

93 Capsize too.
Posted by: Eromero

"I knowed it!!!!"
--Congressman Hank Johnson

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:13 PM (2VST1)

94 74 I wonder about Musk. Because he's got where he is, in not short part, by taking money that wasn't his.

And he's a bit of a tech fetishist, he's very upset that Trump ended the tax breaks for EVs. Doesn't make him entirely wrong or bad, just he has his flaws.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05

He developed PayPal and then sold it. Tesla was not his first rodeo.

Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:13 PM (pZEOD)

95 You know what you faggots need? An extended lecture, and I'm here to provide one.
Posted by: Dyke Weakarms at June 05, 2025 08:07 PM (5tpFp)

David Hogg has entered the chat.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2025 08:13 PM (/HDaX)

96 78 So. Boned?
Posted by: gKWVE

Boned. Boned never changes.

youtu.be/hG3uBgQmTnk

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 05, 2025 08:14 PM (6PUpl)

97 Bob Zimmerman thinks the new NASA budget is good: tinyurl.com/46nxz2vm
That doesn't affect Musk much, but it explains why Isaacman got the heave ho.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 05, 2025 08:14 PM (gKWVE)

98
Last month having been a lucrative one, I treated Her Majesty and me to dinner at Saltgrass. 16 oz. Pat's ribeyes for both of us. I know they're soaked in MSG, but they were good. Lots of leftovers brought home, so we can remember them fondly fir a couple of days.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2025 08:15 PM (QnmlO)

99 I'd type more but I've been sucking on this Sonic large Oreo Cheesecake Mastershake for like 30 minutes and I'm still only half way through it.

I'm thinking I should've gone with the medium size at this point.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:15 PM (6ydKt)

100 Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 08:10 PM (afPT4)

This all started because Musk shit on Trump’s BBB that he has been working hard to get passed for weeks.

I think any President in that situation would want to give Musk a harsh piece of their mind . Only difference is Trump probably the only one that would actually do it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:15 PM (VofaG)

101 Bob Zimmerman thinks the new NASA budget is good:

Is it zero ? Because if its not zero ?

We're at the point where dudes are shoving their own wooden ships off the coast, and kings and queens are trying to stop them because they don't have rights to the waters they've claimed by divine right.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:17 PM (2AUcf)

102 Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:13 PM (pZEOD)

Lot of people don’t realize he started Space X before he joined Tesla.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:18 PM (VofaG)

103 Current Trump and Musk is just kayfabe. YMMV.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:18 PM (7q0v1)

104 "This all started because Musk shit on Trump’s BBB that he has been working hard to get passed for weeks."

Maybe Musk felt that he had earned some influence in the current administration, but the rejection of his proposal for the head of NASA showed this was not true. If this is the case, this predates that.

Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 08:18 PM (afPT4)

105 Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:15 PM (6ydKt)

Damn now I may go to Whataburger for a chocolate shake.,

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:19 PM (VofaG)

106 kayfabe?

coveffe.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:19 PM (6ydKt)

107 Current Trump and Musk is just kayfabe. YMMV.

I'll take that bet. Because it pissed Trump off for more than five minutes.

The Donald doesn't have that long an attention span. Its real. And really ... are we to this ? Its 11th Dimensional Chess again ?

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:20 PM (2AUcf)

108 Thursday on an afternoon. Noon
So peaceful I'll just dream away. Away

@SpaceX 1h

Targeting Friday, June 6 for a Falcon 9 launch of the @SiriusXM SXM-10 mission from Space Launch Complex 40 in Florida →

https://tinyurl.com/mr3ykmb2

@SpaceX 6h

Dragon arrives at the hangar at pad 39A in Florida ahead of its first flight. Falcon 9 is targeted to launch Dragon and @Axiom_Space’s Ax-4 crew to the @Space_Station next Tuesday, June 10

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:20 PM (vWeTL)

109 Remember his freakout telling America to F themselves in the face that he'd go to war with us on this about H1B hires? LOL

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05,

Trump should hammer that program next. Abused like hell.

Posted by: Stateless.. 16% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 08:21 PM (jvJvP)

110 I’ve seen that in person. Quite impressive. I

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:21 PM (NDtFP)

111 I don't think there's any Trumpstein dirt. I think Musk is dealing maximum damage on the way out. Which is fine with me... I bet Trump is wishing at this moment that he'd smeared Musk in the same way. It would be just as believable.

It's a funny play.

But it doesn't matter. It's just fun. Those files will never come out, so why not fuck around with it? It's unprovable either way, in any event.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:22 PM (BI5O2)

112 Hey, off topic, but in the Tuesday (maybe Wednesday) ONT there was a hilarious local news parody clip. Does anyone know what that is from?

Thanks

Posted by: Henry O. at June 05, 2025 08:22 PM (Wnkzy)

113 Damn now I may go to Whataburger for a chocolate shake.,

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:19 PM (VofaG)

I went to a Whataburger one time just outside Dallas.

Didn't get to try the milkshakes, though.

Sonic's are pretty good. This is the first time I've tried one.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:22 PM (6ydKt)

114 86, this!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 05, 2025 08:22 PM (/Ghsb)

115 Watching the video of the boats moving the island reminded me of an old smartphone game: Harbor Master. Kinda miss that one. I cannot find it anymore.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 08:23 PM (VNX3d)

116 >>>Do you want your Norms Restored ? Back to a better day when we had Bushes and more Bushes to keep a Reagan in check and two parties working together to make sure a crazy fuck like Ross Perot only got 20% of the vote and new campaign laws to make sure his like never happened again ?

All the talk about Musk today reminds me of all the talk about Trump back in 2015.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong
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It's almost like acting like a normal person is crazy.
They've been conditioning this for a long time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:23 PM (vWeTL)

117 Bob Zimmerman thinks the new NASA budget is good: tinyurl.com/46nxz2vm
That doesn't affect Musk much, but it explains why Isaacman got the heave ho.

Posted by: gKWVE at June 05, 2025 08:14 PM (gKWVE)

Great read. Thanks.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:23 PM (ic2Gw)

118 If you are concerned about the latest kerfuffle on the right, may I suggest you check out pro wrestling? You won’t believe what they get away with!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:23 PM (7q0v1)

119 I’ve seen that in person. Quite impressive.

"An island flipping over? I warned everyone!!"
--Congressman Hank Johnson

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:23 PM (2VST1)

120 That's how Bush got away with standing up there in the rubble saying - Let's Shop!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:24 PM (vWeTL)

121 >>This all started because Musk shit on Trump’s BBB that he has been working hard to get passed for weeks.

The most ironic part of all of this is almost nobody has actually read a single thing that's in the bill or knows how this byzantine process actually works. And that seems to include Musk. A lot of screaming with almost zero content.

I've heard for 2 weeks now that ZOMG there will only be $9.4 billion in DOGE cuts! Uh, no. That's the first of what will be a number of bills and that is only one means of actually cutting discretionary spending.

That's the most disappointing part about Musk's meltdown. He's supposed to be really smart and after spending 3 months as Trump's boo he still doesn't even seem to understand what's happening. Government is not business. The CEO of the government doesn't get to make unilateral decisions.

I have no idea why Musk decided to start this war but he seems really uninformed for such a smart guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:24 PM (viF8m)

122 10 mins ago Trump was loved by the left and hated by the right.

5 mins ago that switched.

Now….everyone hates him?

Life comes at you fast.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:24 PM (NDtFP)

123 Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 08:18 PM (afPT4)

Was he Musk’s recommendation? If so , it makes sense because he was named before they completed the background checks.

But I don’t think that is what started it because he was dismissed prior to Trump giving Musk his White House thank you meeting right?

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:25 PM (VofaG)

124 I bet Trump is wishing at this moment that he'd smeared Musk in the same way. It would be just as believable.

There are pics of Musk with Ghislane Maxwell, it would be easy to sell. I doubt Musk has the slightest to do with that, he seems to like busty adult blonde women like Trump does but it wouldn't be a tough sell.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 05, 2025 08:25 PM (2VST1)

125
I'm hoping it's a ploy to get Musk back in business. But if not... he's going to Mars anyway.
Posted by: lin-duh

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Or, perhaps, *back* to Mars.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 08:25 PM (fmaTH)

126 Elon also had Zip, which was an online business directory before google. He has a long history of success.

Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:25 PM (pZEOD)

127 Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:24 PM (viF8m)

He's fucking with you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:25 PM (BI5O2)

128 Ramaswamy. Now running for Ohio governor.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2025 08:09 PM (63Dwl)

Against former OSU coach and natl champ Jim Tressell. He has no chance.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (MGB5H)

129 Trump should hammer that program next. Abused like hell.

Does anyone else believe in supply and demand ? If we don't have enough STEM - (and I don't think its a problem you can fix quickly because you don't get the right people from college) ?

The answer isn't to import more. The answer is to let the market suffer a little, prices to go higher for the skill, so that more want to do it.

And I can assure you this ... we lack "base level engineer / technicians". The same level of know-how that was present back in the day.

We can't import them. Nobody else in the world is making them either. India isn't. China isn't. Japan and Germany can't.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (2AUcf)

130 So many of you are outraged, outraged! at what you hear going on between Donald and Elon! OK, whatever floats your boat…

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (7q0v1)

131 What do you call a lion that just killed and consumed your mother's sister?

An aunt eater.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (0sNs1)

132 anyway, hair not ignited, invoking the 168-hour rule

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (/Ghsb)

133 OK, if they want me to mediate between the two of them (Musk and Trump) , I am available. This is nonsense.

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:27 PM (g47mK)

134 There’s maybe a 25% chance the $9B will be cut. And there is less than 0% chance any other fits are made.

BBB is a shit sandwich. Musk rightfully called it for what it is. Trump went apeshit because it’s his baby. A baby that’s uglier than the Seinfeld baby.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:27 PM (NDtFP)

135 I have no idea why Musk decided to start this war but he seems really uninformed for such a smart guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:24 PM (viF8m)

He was definitely determined to set the biggest bridge he could find on fire.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:27 PM (6ydKt)

136 >>He's fucking with you.

Who? The guy who just cost his company $100 billion?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:28 PM (viF8m)

137 I suspect drugs are involved.

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:28 PM (g47mK)

138 I think they finally got to Elon. Wasn't he talking about something big that DOGE uncovered, real big. That he was scared, I never heard what that was.
For all we know it was Elon that was on Epstein island ... For now Im still sticking with Trump. He risked financial ruin, jail and even his life.

Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:29 PM (A2iSa)

139 Shirt patch says "Madrid" so Spain.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Thnx. Only blue berets that I've encountered were French Sûreté nationale, a long time ago. They weren't very friendly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2025 08:29 PM (XeU6L)

140 Or, perhaps, *back* to Mars.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 08:25 PM

Somewhere along the line, we lost 33% of one of the things that made Mars great.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:29 PM (0sNs1)

141 The Pont du Gard, the tallest of the Roman aqueducts

I wonder how long it took for the Romans to get the Statementicus Impactus Environmantalis done

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis at June 05, 2025 08:29 PM (K6h4I)

142 Nobody got to Elon. He is using.

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:29 PM (g47mK)

143 I have no idea why Musk decided to start this war but he seems really uninformed for such a smart guy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:24 PM (viF8m)

Why did he support Trump in the first place? It seems it was because he saw the footage of him being shot in the ear, then standing up in defiance. After voting for FJB, and saying nothing about his obvious mental incompetence.

Dude is a political basketcase. He should stick to rockets and EV subsidies.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (ic2Gw)

144
Against former OSU coach and natl champ Jim Tressell. He has no chance.
Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (MGB5H)

Maybe Gronk can be a governor somewhere.
I mean if being good at football is all that matters why not.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (NDtFP)

145 But it doesn't matter. It's just fun. Those files will never come out, so why not fuck around with it? It's unprovable either way, in any event.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

After encouraging his son to stick like glue to Trump for photo ops he may want to get out in front of people questioning why he did if he has inside info on Epstein/Trump.
Kind of like knowing Biden is a pervert and smiling for the camera as he strokes/sniffs your 12 yo daughter's neck.

Posted by: old chick at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (F3Dlr)

146 “ Your rulers are rebels, partners with thieves; they all love bribes and chase after gifts. They do not defend the cause of the fatherless; the widow’s case does not come before them.”

Isaiah 1:23

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (CJqj6)

147
What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid

=============

Nothing! If only we'd written down that recipe for cement.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (fmaTH)

148 >>>And he's a bit of a tech fetishist, he's very upset that Trump ended the tax breaks for EVs. Doesn't make him entirely wrong or bad, just he has his flaws.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
----------------------

You know better than that.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:31 PM (vWeTL)

149 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:27 PM (NDtFP)

Unless you don’t believe what JackStraw has been posting you also refuse to understand what Trump is trying to accomplish and what the BBB can actually address in cuts.

But again this BBB shitshow effects more than just this bill. It also effects all the other things Trump is trying to accomplish.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:31 PM (VofaG)

150 Maybe Gronk can be a governor somewhere.
I mean if being good at football is all that matters why not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (NDtFP)

He went to Arizona. No way he'd be worse than the last couple there.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2025 08:31 PM (MGB5H)

151 anyway, hair not ignited, invoking the 168-hour rule
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (/Ghsb)

Agreed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:31 PM (Cbb9L)

152 Who? The guy who just cost his company $100 billion?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:28 PM (viF8m)

Yes.

He's lost money already, he's willing to lose more, and he's fucking with Donald Trump and, by extension, you and everyone who loves Trump. It's a gag.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:32 PM (BI5O2)

153 All the talk about Musk today reminds me of all the talk about Trump back in 2015.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 07:43 PM (2AUcf)

This spat reminds me of the spat between Trump and Obama over a birth certificate, and that led me to wonder why someone wanted to Trump to have no other recourse than to release the Epstein files . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (D7oie)

154 Running home town football players worked great in Georgia. Senator Herschel Walker showed the way.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (NDtFP)

155 Check your preconceptions people. I admit, I was outraged at what I saw on pro wrestling…when I was 8 years old.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (7q0v1)

156 Here's the WNBA standings update for the 2 or 3 of you who aren't up-to-date for some unfathomable reason, given what Month it is, and all:

Minnesota Lynx: 8-0
New York Liberty: 7-0

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (0sNs1)

157 147 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid

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Nothing! If only we'd written down that recipe for cement.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 08:30 PM (fmaTH)

-- --

They came up with pizza.
I've been grateful ever since.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)

158 >>>Who? The guy who just cost his company $100 billion?

Posted by: JackStraw
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How much did he lose while he was working in DC.
Who can say those two Starship bloopers were not because he was busy in DC?
I said the other day he could go Howard Hughes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (vWeTL)

159 Maybe Gronk can be a governor somewhere.
I mean if being good at football is all that matters why not.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at

Alabama enters the chat!

Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (pZEOD)

160 Here's the WNBA standings update for the 2 or 3 of you who aren't up-to-date for some unfathomable reason, given what Month it is, and all:

Minnesota Lynx: 8-0
New York Liberty: 7-0
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05

Caitlin said she'll be back to rescue the league next week.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2025 08:34 PM (MGB5H)

161 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 08:05 PM

*cough*navcams*cough*

Heh. I remember that!

Remember the, uh, woman, um, that the XO was doinking? The one with the "USDA CHOICE" tattoo?

LMAO

Posted by: JQ at June 05, 2025 08:34 PM (rdVOm)

162 Alabama enters the chat!
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:33 PM (pZEOD)

Tommy to the state house big Nick To the senate!

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2025 08:34 PM (MGB5H)

163 What have the Romans ever done for us?
Posted by: rhomboid

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Nothing! If only we'd written down that recipe for cement.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

*arches eyebrow*

Posted by: Miklosius Caroliniensis the Elder at June 05, 2025 08:35 PM (K6h4I)

164
But again this BBB shitshow affects more than just this bill. It also affects all the other things Trump is trying to accomplish.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:31 PM (VofaG)

I’m sick of this mentality. We have to accept a shit bill because reasons. No. How about we just don’t do shit bills and force the gop to pass good bills instead?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:35 PM (NDtFP)

165 No hockey game tonight. Not that I will tune in WNBA to make up for it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:35 PM (Cbb9L)

166
Has anyone peeked in at Powerline? I'm going to give myself a good 5-day break from that site.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 05, 2025 08:35 PM (fmaTH)

167 He's lost money already, he's willing to lose more, and he's fucking with Donald Trump and, by extension, you and everyone who loves Trump. It's a gag.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:32 PM (BI5O2)

I don’t love Trump.

I hate the CCP taking economic advantage of us, trannies in women's sports, illegal immigrants, Hamas supporting jew haters and a diminished military. This shit show is jeopardizing correcting these things.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:36 PM (VofaG)

168 Unless you don’t believe what JackStraw has been posting you also refuse to understand what Trump is trying to accomplish and what the BBB can actually address in cuts.

I don't. I've seen Reagan cut taxes and run deficits. I've seen Bush cut taxes on half the country and run deficits. I've seen W borrow a trillion for the banks, and Obama swear we need to borrow half a trillion every year because of it, and then every after to the point where we now claim about 4 Trillion and spend about 6 Trillion ... give or take.

No - I don't believe we need to "prime the pump" anymore with tax breaks or block grants. We need to stop spending and printing.

We're not going to borrow our way out of this.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:37 PM (2AUcf)

169 ok, who wrote : "..AR-15s and AK-47s Are ‘Widely Legal and Bought by Many Ordinary Consumers "??

no cheating

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:37 PM (g47mK)

170 I find Trump and Musk to be endlessly amusing; not like clowns though, because I f'n hate clowns.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 08:37 PM (D7oie)

171 How about we just don’t do shit bills and force the gop to pass good bills instead?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:35 PM (NDtFP)

I think I see the flaw in your plan.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:37 PM (ic2Gw)

172 166
Has anyone peeked in at Powerline? I'm going to give myself a good 5-day break from that site.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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First and foremost they are Bankers and lawyers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (vWeTL)

173 I’m sick of this mentality. We have to accept a shit bill because reasons. No. How about we just don’t do shit bills and force the gop to pass good bills instead?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:35 PM (NDtFP)

-- --

I just don't believe that holding them at gun point to pass 12 spending bills that all cut the budget by 50% is going to look good on C-SPAN, but what do I know?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (6ydKt)

174 This shit show is jeopardizing correcting these things.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:36 PM (VofaG

Those things won't be corrected. People who tell you they will are lying.

All of it is just a farce, and this is more farcical hijinks, and it changes nothing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (BI5O2)

175 >>Why did he support Trump in the first place? It seems it was because he saw the footage of him being shot in the ear, then standing up in defiance. After voting for FJB, and saying nothing about his obvious mental incompetence.

Maybe because Democrats were fucking with him and his businesses non-stop. They cost him $30+ million personally in the Delaware stock case after he bought Twitter.

I have nothing but admiration for Musk for buying Twitter, and I don't think this is hyperbole, and helping save free speech. That's something that will be talked about in history books long after we are gone.

And he's obviously brilliant when it comes to creating shit. He's a visionary and from all accounts a ruthless workaholic. But that doesn't mean he knows dick about how government works.

Does anyone really think Trump doesn't want to cut the corruption and bloat out of government and cut spending? Does anyone think Bessent and Trump's entire team doesn't want to cut this insane spending and cut the debt? Does anyone not understand neither Trump nor Musk runs Congress?

This is government. It sucks. It's frustrating. There are smooth brains fighting for us and against us.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (viF8m)

176 111 I don't think there's any Trumpstein dirt. I think Musk is dealing maximum damage on the way out. Which is fine with me... I bet Trump is wishing at this moment that he'd smeared Musk in the same way. It would be just as believable.

It's a funny play.

But it doesn't matter. It's just fun. Those files will never come out, so why not fuck around with it? It's unprovable either way, in any event.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:22 PM (BI5O2)

Trump could refute this by making them public, assuming that's true.

But as you say that's never happening. Despite all the talk.

So I think he deserves that particular black eye. He's earned it.

Not that it's likely to sway anyone on anything.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (y+qgR)

177 “ Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.”

Matthew 12:25

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 08:39 PM (CJqj6)

178 First and foremost they are Bankers and lawyers.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (vWeTL)

Mos Eisely is full of those...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:39 PM (Cbb9L)

179 ok, who wrote : "..AR-15s and AK-47s Are ‘Widely Legal and Bought by Many Ordinary Consumers "??

no cheating

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:37 PM (g47mK)

You forgot, "the answer will shock you."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:39 PM (ic2Gw)

180 I think Musk is the real Damien Thorn.

Though his mom is way hotter than one would expect.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 05, 2025 08:39 PM (qwx/I)

181 If I had told you 6 months ago the best Trump and the house/senate could do is $9b in cuts, you would have laughed at me. Because 6 months ago they were talking trillions in cuts.

But now we’re supposed to celebrate $9B because go team red!!!

Fuck that noise.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:40 PM (NDtFP)

182 The Center-right was the only side that wanted Elon once he bought Twitter and turned it into less than a playground for the left.

Elon picked up more supporters there and his political interests fell in with Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:40 PM (krQz2)

183 Jerome Powell and Trump are breaking the Euro, and breaking the back of the City of London. Trump wants lower rates, but that is not happening until we have an emergency.

Honestly, the rates are far below the reasonable levels as they are right now. It is still to profitable to take on debt and buy out companies to loot and dismemberment via private equity

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 08:40 PM (D7oie)

184 You forgot, "the answer will shock you."

==

indeed...I have a baad feeling about this

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:40 PM (g47mK)

185 Whole Musk - Trump brouhaha could just be misdirection.

Posted by: esy the elder at June 05, 2025 08:41 PM (bHTuV)

186 Kagan. The answer is Kagan.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:41 PM (2AUcf)

187 I just don't believe that holding them at gun point to pass 12 spending bills that all cut the budget by 50% is going to look good on C-SPAN, but what do I know?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (6ydKt)

How many votes does it take to pass 12 individual spending bills? More than 51%? More than a simple majority?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (D7oie)

188 posted, Jun 3

A million seconds ago was May 23rd
A billion seconds ago was 1993
A trillion seconds ago was 30,000 B.C.

The US national debt is now rising by $1 Trillion every 180 days.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (vWeTL)

189 You forgot, "the answer will shock you."
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Is that answer "electricity"?

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (krQz2)

190 Maybe because Democrats were fucking with him and his businesses non-stop. They cost him $30+ million personally in the Delaware stock case after he bought Twitter.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (viF8m)

That's my thought as well. Democrat's spurned him, so he backed Trump. Now he's feeling spurned again.

Basketcase, notwithstanding other things he did or has done with Twitter and SpaceX.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (ic2Gw)

191 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...

Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (A2iSa)

192 Kagan. The answer is Kagan.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:41 PM (2AUcf)
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Who goes up against Connor McCloud to be the One?

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:43 PM (krQz2)

193 >>He's lost money already, he's willing to lose more, and he's fucking with Donald Trump and, by extension, you and everyone who loves Trump. It's a gag.

You think that gag is going to play well with his stockholder and board? What's the gag of claiming Trump is a pedophile who should be impeached?

Musk is not the only owner of a publicly traded company. Not everyone who is losing money on this gag is laughing.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:43 PM (viF8m)

194 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (A2iSa)

And here I am without popcorn.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (Cbb9L)

195 This shit show is jeopardizing correcting these things.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:36 PM (VofaG

Those things won't be corrected. People who tell you they will are lying.

All of it is just a farce, and this is more farcical hijinks, and it changes nothing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (BI5O2)

The reciprocal tariffs and rounding up illegals are happening . DEI is being dismantled. The trannies are being pushed out . I think some people just don’t like or want to be positive about things.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (VofaG)

196 191 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:42

Anything else this day would like to bring?

Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

197 They can't cut everything at once and you have to start somewhere. At least let them get started.

Posted by: fd at June 05, 2025 08:45 PM (vFG9F)

198 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo
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Oh, no!

Anyway...

Posted by: JQ at June 05, 2025 08:45 PM (rdVOm)

199 Is that answer "electricity"?
Posted by: Axeman

I remember when Nancy Pelosi was kinda hot

Posted by: Thomas Edison at June 05, 2025 08:45 PM (K6h4I)

200 Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

I , personaly, had enough....

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:45 PM (g47mK)

201 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (A2iSa)

Keeev fncked with Russia's strategic bombers.
They tried to kneecap their nuke triad.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 08:46 PM (D7oie)

202 191 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo a
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Good, maybe one of them will hit Zelensky.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:46 PM (vWeTL)

203 *personaly

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:46 PM (g47mK)

204 Bombing? I thought their entire air force was destroyed by the brilliant, audacious, genius drone raid?

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:46 PM (2HvAK)

205 How many votes does it take to pass 12 individual spending bills? More than 51%? More than a simple majority?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 08:42 PM (D7oie)

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AS I understand it, if they do appropriations with good cuts in them via regular order with each bill up for a vote, the Dems in the Senate can and will filibuster which can only be broken with 60 votes to move the bill.

Which is why they've gone the reconciliation bill route, which only requires 51 votes.

But there are rules to what you can use reconciliation for.
Which is why they want to get this thing through as is, and then come back later with rescissions in future bills.

It's complicated but the theory is sound.

Whether it will actually happen that way is another story entirely.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (6ydKt)

206 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:42

Anything else this day would like to bring?

Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

Breaking: Dogs and cats are living together.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (ic2Gw)

207 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:42

Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

well, there's the New Madrid Fault and the Yellowstone Caldera. And Mount Adams, and that undersea volcano 300 miles west of Oregon.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (0aYVJ)

208 reciprocal tariffs and rounding up illegals are happening . DEI is being dismantled. The trannies are being pushed out . I think some people just don’t like or want to be positive about things.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (VofaG)

Tariffs are a nothing burger after all the pauses. They made a big deal of arresting 1500 illegals in May in Mass. out of 40 million nationally.

Yeah it’s better than 0 arrests. But it’s still a rounding error. At this rate it will take a few hundred years to deport them all.

It’s about being positive or negative. It’s seeing reality.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (NDtFP)

209 Bombing? I thought their entire air force was destroyed by the brilliant, audacious, genius drone raid?

==

Just like their Black Fleet Navy!

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (g47mK)

210 And here I am without popcorn.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You can buff my fenders anytime, Big Boy

Posted by: the Wretched Panhard at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (K6h4I)

211 Keeev fncked with Russia's strategic bombers.
They tried to kneecap their nuke triad.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Putin told Trump, 'I'm going to F_ them up.'
Trump said, 'I know.'

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (vWeTL)

212 Antifa - The faction that doesn't like fourths.

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (krQz2)

213 Blonde Morticia -

What’s the issue with Powerline? I just took a look over there and couldn’t see anything amiss. They seem, if anything, less taken in by the kayfabe than here, but I seem to be in a minority position on that subject in these parts.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:48 PM (7q0v1)

214 Government will crush your soul and steal your spirit. It moves at a glacial pace, and exists on endless compromise. It doesn’t produce anything, it rations, bloats and creates inefficiencies.

This isn’t new to anyone except idealists like Musk. He’s thus far been able to largely create his own reality. That’s not life for most of us.

Government has been this way from the beginning. Go back and read Madison’s note from the convention. Read some history on Jefferson and Adam’s.

Musk was destined for this the minute he stepped into the government arena. He’s not used to a world where, like it or not, things get done in small doses. This is no different. I admire what he did, but I now question his motives. He’s a juvenile neophyte in an adult world. Maybe it’s time for him to grow up and face reality. YMMV.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 08:48 PM (CJqj6)

215 2025 08:42

Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

It’s already tomorrow in Keeeeeeev.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:48 PM (NDtFP)

216 I worry that the supply of Chicken Kiev may be irreparably reduced. Maybe it's time to start hoarding.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2025 08:49 PM (y+qgR)

217 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (NDtFP)

Except you guys don’t see a half empty glass. You see an empty glass. About everything. Political and non-political.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:49 PM (VofaG)

218 Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

well, there's the New Madrid Fault and the Yellowstone Caldera. And Mount Adams, and that undersea volcano 300 miles west of Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Darleen is working a double shift and gets off at midnite

Posted by: Miklos bought a case of Natty Daddys and some incense at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (K6h4I)

219 200 Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

Things may be getting better for me.....

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (jvJvP)

220 >>>and that undersea volcano 300 miles west of Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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That's what's over humidifying the atmosphere.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (vWeTL)

221 It’s already tomorrow in Keeeeeeev.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 05, 2025 08:48 PM (NDtFP)
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Please! Don't misspell Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev.

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (krQz2)

222 Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

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The Dying of the Light.

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (krQz2)

223 Things may be getting better for me.....
Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (jvJvP)

That's great!

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:51 PM (2HvAK)

224 Musk is not the only owner of a publicly traded company. Not everyone who is losing money on this gag is laughing.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025

No. They're not. But he is. You have to keep in mind he's untouchable.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:51 PM (BI5O2)

225 He’s not used to a world where, like it or not, things get done in small doses. This is no different.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 08:48 PM (CJqj6)

We all sympathize, as we are just as frustrated.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:51 PM (ic2Gw)

226 How many votes does it take to pass spending bills in Congress under normal procedure?

How many does it take to pass spending bills in Congress under reconciliation?

What is the rescission process and how does it work?

What's the difference between mandatory spending and discretionary spending and when can each be cut?

These are kind of important things to know if you want to rage about what's currently going on in DC. Otherwise, you might accuse Trump of being a pedophile.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:51 PM (viF8m)

227 That's what's over humidifying the atmosphere.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (vWeTL)

I thought that was Nancy Pelosis nether regions over the trump-musk fight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:51 PM (2HvAK)

228
Darleen is working a double shift and gets off at midnite
Posted by: Miklos bought a case of Natty Daddys and some incense
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Get that foot tub of warm water ready.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:52 PM (vWeTL)

229 Putin told Trump, 'I'm going to F_ them up.'
Trump said, 'I know.'

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:47 PM (vWeTL)

Is that a real summary? I never read the article where Trump discussed the conversation. Just saw the headline.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:52 PM (VofaG)

230
This is government. It sucks. It's frustrating. There are smooth brains fighting for us and against us.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:38 PM (viF8m)

Trump learned by the end of the first term that you cannot ask for the perfect with Congress. Every single representative has their own agenda, their own donors, their own constituents, their own lobbyists. He has a bill that managed to get through the House and now is trying to get through the Senate with Senators who have less concern over being reelected than House members since they have a six-year timeline. And they all want their own agenda in it. The Democrats want it to fail, period.
Musk, apparently, has not accepted this universal truth.

Posted by: jen the original at June 05, 2025 08:52 PM (uFhcf)

231 Oh well, the kayfabe is working. If they got the people over here worked up, they’ve got the people on the left believing it too, which is the point. Ok, I’m going to shut up about it since I want it to work too.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:52 PM (7q0v1)

232 Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM (pZEOD)

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The Dying of the Light.

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (krQz2)

*rages*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:52 PM (ic2Gw)

233 where is this news of Russian strikes on Kiev coming from ??

Posted by: runner at June 05, 2025 08:53 PM (g47mK)

234 >>No. They're not. But he is. You have to keep in mind he's untouchable.

Oh, ok.

If Trump had not been elected he'd be in multiple lawsuits already by the Harris DOJ.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:53 PM (viF8m)

235 >>>
These are kind of important things to know if you want to rage about what's currently going on in DC. Otherwise, you might accuse Trump of being a pedophile.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Explain that to Elon. Also how cutting $9+Billion is significant compared to the US national debt rising by $1 Trillion every 180 days.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (vWeTL)

236 eh, g'night everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (/Ghsb)

237 That's great!
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:51 PM (2HvAK)

Hopefully.
Thank you.

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (jvJvP)

238 Ok, I’m going to shut up about it since I want it to work too.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:52 PM (7q0v1)

I am op agnostic. I was about to throw a full nude Pic out there in order to get people distracted from self immolation though. Might have caught a banning and full nude tessa fowler should only be employed as a weapon of last resort.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (2HvAK)

239 The Dying of the Light.

Posted by: Axeman at June 05, 2025 08:50 PM (krQz2)

*rages*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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I will always hear that in Rodney Dangerfield's voice.

Posted by: JQ at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (rdVOm)

240 All the pieces are laid out. If you can’t fit them together, that’s on you. Anyway, you’re supposed to be taken in, so good!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 08:55 PM (7q0v1)

241 Night sock rat.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:55 PM (2HvAK)

242 And Trump is also untouchable, for that matter. This is one of those unstoppable force/immovable object scenarios. Enjoy it, guys. It's fun to watch, nobody will be harmed, no body will be helped.

It's just theatre.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:55 PM (BI5O2)

243 Well, it's been a day....

Posted by: jsg at June 05, 2025 08:55 PM (kqCg2)

244 Who goes up against Connor McCloud to be the One?

That would be Clancy Brown. Sean Connery tunes him up a bit before losing.

Clancy Brown was also the sane dude in the Sci-Fi moving starring Debrah Farentino as the first AWFL. Not the one where they're on Little Tall Island with Tim Dayl. The one where they're on Mars or wherever the Hell and she's still stomping around with that "listen to what I have to say" bullshit. And Tim Curry shows up - but sadly, he doesn't kill Debrah Farentino.

Debrah Farentino was the first Hollywood AWFL. Then they came up with a much less attractive Kate Mulgrew.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:55 PM (2AUcf)

245 If Trump had not been elected he'd be in multiple lawsuits already by the Harris DOJ.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:53 PM (viF8m)

Which is why I suspect THAT is the main reason he supported Trump.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:55 PM (ic2Gw)

246 Holy hell, I am fucking stupid.

Sock_rat_eez.

Years and I just said that in my head and got it. I am the stupid.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:56 PM (2HvAK)

247 Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (2HvAK)

I willing for you to take the risk.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:56 PM (VofaG)

248 >>>Musk, apparently, has not accepted this universal truth.

Posted by: jen the original
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It's unimaginable that they haven't had conversations about how stuff works.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 08:56 PM (vWeTL)

249 211 Keeev fncked with Russia's strategic bombers.
They tried to kneecap their nuke triad.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Putin told Trump, 'I'm going to F_ them up.'
Trump said, 'I know.'
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Seems like the Z is doing all the F'n around and the Ukrainians are doing the finding out... something not right with that

Posted by: Wardo at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (A2iSa)

250 He’s not used to a world where, like it or not, things get done in small doses. This is no different.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 08:48 PM (CJqj6)

John Cornyn has been saying this for 20 years.

At some point, people have to stop pretending this is going to get done with a scalpel incrementally.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (y+qgR)

251
Does anyone else believe in supply and demand ? If we don't have enough STEM - (and I don't think its a problem you can fix quickly because you don't get the right people from college) ?

The answer isn't to import more. The answer is to let the market suffer a little, prices to go higher for the skill, so that more want to do it.

And I can assure you this ... we lack "base level engineer / technicians". The same level of know-how that was present back in the day.

We can't import them. Nobody else in the world is making them either. India isn't. China isn't. Japan and Germany can't.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 08:26 PM (2AUcf)

We have plenty of low level STEM techs...they can't get hired, even at the poor wages paid b/c there are too many and they still fight H1-Bs and INT college grads on visas here.

My STEM kid will now be in a non-STEM job as her 1st post collegiate job b/c she couldn't crack in from a state school as a Magna Cumm Laude...for $18/hour jobs.

Then again, she's making much more in non-STEM...so maybe there's a lesson in that...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (tOcjL)

252 I willing for you to take the risk.
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:56 PM (VofaG)

Only at the last extremity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (2HvAK)

253 Anything else this day would like to bring?
Posted by: Piper at June 05, 2025 08:44 PM

It's being reported that the gyre is widening.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (0sNs1)

254 The chilled white peaches slices are a nice compliment to this merlot.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (DLqye)

255 I see that one of the SheMale boxers (Imane Khalif) has decided not to enter the next women's boxing tournament, after the new testing rules.

Isn't that just tooooo bad.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 08:58 PM (VNX3d)

256 At some point, people have to stop pretending this is going to get done with a scalpel incrementally.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (y+qgR)

Has Trump been using a scalpel on the other issues other than the BBB?

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 08:58 PM (VofaG)

257 full nude tessa fowler should only be employed as a weapon of last resort.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (2HvAK)

Weapons of mass distraction. You madman.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:59 PM (ic2Gw)

258 If Trump had not been elected he'd be in multiple lawsuits already by the Harris DOJ.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 08:53 PM (viF8m)

Trump was elected, though.

There is no Harris DoJ.

What did you expect? Loyalty? Do you even America?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 08:59 PM (BI5O2)

259 Weapons of mass distraction. You madman.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:59 PM (ic2Gw)

Well, people were running around with their hair on fire.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 09:00 PM (2HvAK)

260 Sign in

GO! - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - SXM-10 - SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Sapce Affairs Live
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In 26 hours. Just in time for ONT!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:00 PM (vWeTL)

261 I will always hear that in Rodney Dangerfield's voice.

Followed by the Triple Lindy!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 05, 2025 09:00 PM (7q0v1)

262 It’s amazing to me that there are people who believe there’s some magical bill that will undo over a hundred years of fuckery. Pass Trump’s bill and build on it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 05, 2025 09:00 PM (u73oe)

263 >>Explain that to Elon. Also how cutting $9+Billion is significant compared to the US national debt rising by $1 Trillion every 180 days.

Happy too.

Also happy to explain the same thing Trump's Director of OMB Russ Vought who controls the rescission process for the White House which is where recission bills start has said over and over and over and over and over that this is the 1st rescission bill they are sending to Congress not the last and they are using this as a test to see how Congress deals with these lay up cuts before deciding whether to continue this process or use other tools to cut DISCRESTIONARY spending.

He's literally been saying this since his Senate hearing and said it again last night. Maybe Elon should actually listen to him because it's pretty fucking clear what Trump's team is trying to do.

Remember, this is the same team everyone said would cause massive inflation with the tariffs and it's now the lowest since the last Trump administration.

Do you really think only Musk understands our debt problem?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:00 PM (viF8m)

264 You know, I really liked the relationship between Janeway and Chakotay.

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (jvJvP)

265 My STEM kid will now be in a non-STEM job as her 1st post collegiate job b/c she couldn't crack in from a state school as a Magna Cumm Laude...for $18/hour jobs.

Then honestly ... I don't know what to tell you. Because everywhere I work is throwing out about $30/hr, to start, just to be the numb-nuts pushing the buttons in the control shack to make the conveyors come off and on in a quarry. And walk out now and then and bang on something with a hammer when it doesn't move.

Every trade union here is hiring ... more than $18 an hour as a first year first six months. Especially for a girl ... if she can get off her ass.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (2AUcf)

266 One of the most preposterous gastronomic propositions was the poorly marketed "Penguin Kiev". Not only was the soybean battered and fried entree badly received, the adopted cartoon mascot, a rainbow penguin donning a gay Ukrainian Nazi's beret, was roundly criticized for it's blatant stereotyping and despicable cultural appropriation.

Posted by: Penguin Facts at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (vFG9F)

267 Elon is as weird as he is a genius. He's this generation's Howard Hughes.

Posted by: jen the original at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (uFhcf)

268 Hannity is on....

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:02 PM (jvJvP)

269 >>What did you expect? Loyalty? Do you even America?

You're talking in circles now.

What's your point?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:02 PM (viF8m)

270 I see that one of the SheMale boxers (Imane Khalif) has decided not to enter the next women's boxing tournament, after the new testing rules.

Isn't that just tooooo bad.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Ima whoop that girl ass

Posted by: Suspended Sekrit Service agent at June 05, 2025 09:02 PM (K6h4I)

271 You know, I really liked the relationship between Janeway and Chakotay.

I enlisted in '90. Ran into a few NCOs, after a few beers, that would talk about fragging the officers tent if shit got too sideways.

I always thought they were out of there minds ... until Janeway.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (2AUcf)

272 Then again, she's making much more in non-STEM...so maybe there's a lesson in that...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 08:57 PM (tOcjL)

Get her a welding ticket and training on CNC machining. If she can weld and can do engineering she will have managers sending her letters to come work for them. The fact that she has that STEM degree will prove she can read plans, unlike most of the welders I knew.
If she can get a pipefitter cert, she can work anywhere she wants as long as they burn metal.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (D7oie)

273 Elon Musk retweeted

Naval@naval 4h

Elon’s stance is principled.
Trump’s stance is practical.
Tech needs Republicans for the present.
Republicans need Tech for the future.
Drop the tax cuts, cut some pork, get the bill through.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (vWeTL)

274 Say! Does anyone here know how to Madison?

Posted by: Brad Majors at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (0sNs1)

275 Elon is as weird as he is a genius. He's this generation's Howard Hughes.
Posted by: jen the original at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (uFhcf)

I’m glad someone else sees that. I said that over a year ago.

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (VofaG)

276 full nude tessa fowler should only be employed as a weapon of last resort.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 08:54 PM (2HvAK)

Weapons of mass distraction. You madman.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 08:59 PM (ic2Gw)

Full nude Madonna classified as weapon of mass destruction. How many Rosie O'Donells is that?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (VNX3d)

277 Elon is as weird as he is a genius. He's this generation's Howard Hughes.
Posted by: jen the original

I have empty Kleenex boxes for sale.

For the Right Price.

Posted by: Savvy Businessman Miklos at June 05, 2025 09:04 PM (K6h4I)

278 265 My STEM kid will now be in a non-STEM job as her 1st post collegiate job b/c she couldn't crack in from a state school as a Magna Cumm Laude...for $18/hour jobs.

Then honestly ... I don't know what to tell you. Because everywhere I work is throwing out about $30/hr, to start, just to be the numb-nuts pushing the buttons in the control shack to make the conveyors come off and on in a quarry. And walk out now and then and bang on something with a hammer when it doesn't move.

Every trade union here is hiring ... more than $18 an hour as a first year first six months. Especially for a girl ... if she can get off her ass.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (2AUcf)

Quarry...that's the difference. Hers were all lab-based STEM for Chem and Bio...so actually more high-end and expensive machines to use and more precision...for less money.

She did get some interviews, but no offers. Then, she finally applied non-STEM and got 4 offers...in a week.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:05 PM (tOcjL)

279 How many Rosie O'Donells is that?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (VNX3d)

.25 Rosies

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 05, 2025 09:06 PM (2HvAK)

280 I have empty Kleenex boxes for sale.

For the Right Price.
Posted by: Savvy Businessman Miklos at June 05, 2025 09:04 PM (K6h4I)

Throw in some empty urine bottles and you have a deal.

Posted by: jen the original at June 05, 2025 09:06 PM (uFhcf)

281 I always thought they were out of there minds ... until Janeway.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:03 PM (2AUcf)

Lol.

Canadian news. Tariffs are hitting Canada hard.

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:07 PM (jvJvP)

282 Woo-hoo! Found the lost throttle cable. Went out to put my steak on the grill; got that done. Decided to walk out behind the house and pee on the grass, because I can. Stumbled over it, lying right on the cement slab. Must have fallen off the back of the golf cart.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:07 PM (Cbb9L)

283 Quarry...that's the difference. Hers were all lab-based STEM for Chem and Bio...so actually more high-end and expensive machines to use and more precision...for less money.

She did get some interviews, but no offers. Then, she finally applied non-STEM and got 4 offers...in a week.

Then there is a lesson. Seriously. And I get this all the time, from Ivy League engineers and Foreign Engineers from King's College of this or Sultan's School of that.

If you don't understand how this works ... right in front of you right now ? I don't fucking care how smart you are about shit not in front of you right now. Because this is the problem, right here.

Are you "over-qualified" ? That's just "not qualified".

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:08 PM (2AUcf)

284 I can't explain the reasoning behind the process for the BBB better than Stephen Miller, and I can say he's always come across, to me at least, as a 'just the facts' straight shooter as far as the D.C. politico crowd goes.

Here is Charlie Martin at PJ Media explaining the entire thing with Miller on X as an assist:

Understanding the Big Beautiful Bill and the Laws That Surround It
https://tinyurl.com/5x6wrpph

Posted by: SpeakingOf at June 05, 2025 09:08 PM (6ydKt)

285 Hokey Smokes Bulwinkle, the world is on fire.

https://tinyurl.com/2vsxca6e

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:09 PM (vWeTL)

286 If you don't understand how this works ... right in front of you right now ? I don't fucking care how smart you are about shit not in front of you right now. Because this is the problem, right here.

Are you "over-qualified" ? That's just "not qualified".

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:08 PM (2AUcf)

Turns out, she was always underqualified. All the layoffs (FDA, Park Service, NIH, etc) here put too big a pool of STEM here right now. And those folks, since they are paid til Sept 30, were willing to take sh&t jobs to stay here (and my kid didn't want to leave the area yet)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:11 PM (tOcjL)

287 Hokey Smokes Bulwinkle, the world is on fire.

https://tinyurl.com/2vsxca6e
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:09 PM (vWeTL)

If you're too close, that will set your hair on fire.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 09:12 PM (VNX3d)

288 Hokey Smokes Bulwinkle, the world is on fire.

https://tinyurl.com/2vsxca6e
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:09 PM (vWeTL)

That's one weird map projection they are using.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:12 PM (Cbb9L)

289 Hannity thinks this fight is a policy difference and will blow over.

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:12 PM (jvJvP)

290 If you believe CBS News, they're claiming that ICE has already picked up 100k illegals. I don't remember if that is detained or deported.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 09:14 PM (VNX3d)

291 Hokey Smokes Bulwinkle, the world is on fire.

https://tinyurl.com/2vsxca6e
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:09 PM (vWeTL)

That's one weird map projection they are using.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at Jun

What’s a hotspot as opposed to a fire?

Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 09:14 PM (VofaG)

292 Turns out, she was always underqualified. All the layoffs (FDA, Park Service, NIH, etc) here put too big a pool of STEM here right now.

Oh Yeah ... and they are uniformly awful. Again, other than Elon's data-centric shit ? No other country in the world is putting out engineers that can design, build, and support a damn thing. Its going to be a problem. And I just do simple integration ... nobody can do that anymore.

Its all just credentials crowding and dick-bumping.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:15 PM (2AUcf)

293 From Le Figaro:
Une vidéo de 1992 montre Trump faire la fête avec Jeffrey Epstein, accusé de «trafic sexuel»
Trump accusé d'avoir agressé une mannequin rencontrée via Epstein, selon le «Guardian»
What a coincidence that, as soon as Musk accused Trump of involvement with Epstein, journalists all over the world had stories ready to go along the same lines.

This seems suspicious to me.

For context, Le Figaro is the main center-right French newspaper, like WSJ here.

Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 09:15 PM (afPT4)

294 If you believe CBS News, they're claiming that ICE has already picked up 100k illegals. I don't remember if that is detained or deported.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 09:14 PM (VNX3d)

Risking anti-math rules, they were recently touting 2,200 up in a day as a record. Times 120ish days?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 09:17 PM (ic2Gw)

295 What’s a hotspot as opposed to a fire?
Posted by: polynikes at June 05, 2025 09:14 PM (VofaG)

Usually found in Paradise, with a pink hotel and a boutique.

Posted by: Joni Mitchell at June 05, 2025 09:17 PM (Cbb9L)

296 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo

I'd take the wastewater plants.
Then cut off supplies and power plants.

Then they can drink shit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 05, 2025 09:17 PM (/lPRQ)

297 Hannity thinks this fight is a policy difference and will blow over.

Hannity is my Dick Vitale of politics. Although Hannity did tap Ainsely Earhardt for a while. I'm sure he painted that house top to bottom.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:18 PM (2AUcf)

298 267 Elon is as weird as he is a genius. He's this generation's Howard Hughes.
Posted by: jen the original at June 05, 2025 09:01 PM (uFhcf)

Hughes, or dare I say... Tesla?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 09:19 PM (mP0Kj)

299 Quarry...that's the difference. Hers were all lab-based STEM for Chem and Bio...so actually more high-end and expensive machines to use and more precision...for less money.

She did get some interviews, but no offers. Then, she finally applied non-STEM and got 4 offers...in a week.
Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:05 PM (tOcjL)

If she can do bench work than she is positioned to get a lab tech job. Depending on what she has done, I would look into immunology labs, and blood work. I had a GF who worked at a lab that did immuno assay kits and made good money.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 09:19 PM (D7oie)

300 I can't get into all these conflicts after they've changed the names. I had Kiev on my Risk board. I ate Chicken Kiev.

Where in the fuck is this Keev ? And why do I care ?

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:20 PM (2AUcf)

301 292 Turns out, she was always underqualified. All the layoffs (FDA, Park Service, NIH, etc) here put too big a pool of STEM here right now.

Oh Yeah ... and they are uniformly awful.

Its all just credentials crowding and dick-bumping.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:15 PM (2AUcf)

It's why I'm glad she's out of STEM. She's in a non-deportable job in a semi-soft "health care" position where she's getting trained and licensed by the hiring company. It's kinda ideal for now...and since it involves dealing with autistic and ADHD kids (and my daughter is an unlimited font of patience thanks to her younger brothers), no Fed Gov wants it and the area hiring groups are desperate enough to pay for everything and take the unlicensed and license them.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:20 PM (tOcjL)

302 If she can get a pipefitter cert, she can work anywhere she wants as long as they burn metal.
Posted by: Kindltot
--------------------

And the welder's helper works his ass off.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:20 PM (vWeTL)

303 >> At some point, people have to stop pretending this is going to get done with a scalpel incrementally.

If you read some of the very good breakdowns being provided it is more than significant for government to achieve this type of bill. I think Russ Vought had the best breakdown. I will also say there is a lot more that can be done to lower the deficit- SECTREAS hasn’t even been involved yet. Future manufacturing and business in the country will also help. It’s already moving the economic needle. That’s the long game we need.

The US government isn’t Twitter or a private company. You can only do so much at one time. If that was Musk’s thought, he’s not as smart as I thought he was.

I will say one thing. The Epstein jab was not only demonstrably false but even lower then O thought Musk would go. It hurts Trump’s family, who just ingratiated themselves to Elon and his son. In my thinking it’s a sign of two things; Elon has never had a good ass kicking, and second, he needs a good throat punch.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 09:20 PM (BtTPD)

304 Risking anti-math rules, they were recently touting 2,200 up in a day as a record. Times 120ish days?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 05, 2025 09:17 PM (ic2Gw)

You know, those illegals, if they entered the country illegally, technically don't exist. No documents at all. So don't bother with hearings. Just automatically load them on a plane for their presumed country of origin.

Posted by: Joni Mitchell at June 05, 2025 09:21 PM (Cbb9L)

305 296 Russians are now bombing Kiev ...
Posted by: Wardo

I'd take the wastewater plants.
Then cut off supplies and power plants.

Then they can drink shit.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 05, 2025 09:17 PM (/lPRQ)

If'n I was Vlad... I'd go after supply lines... roads, bridges, railroads... especially at border crossings into the EU...

Ukes are not supplying their own stuff... its getting shipped and flown in.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 09:21 PM (mP0Kj)

306 What's your point?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:02 PM (viF8m)

The point is that there is no point. This is a couple of tomcats pissing at each other in a Chesapeake Bay alley. Nothing more to it than that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:22 PM (BI5O2)

307 300 I can't get into all these conflicts after they've changed the names. I had Kiev on my Risk board. I ate Chicken Kiev.

Where in the fuck is this Keev ? And why do I care ?
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:20 PM (2AUcf)

I Keev you!!!!

Posted by: Mohamed, the Ukrainian Terrorist at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (mP0Kj)

308 It's why I'm glad she's out of STEM. She's in a non-deportable job in a semi-soft "health care" position where she's getting trained and licensed by the hiring company.

Does she like it ? Because, as I found out, you don't have to like your job ... but you can't hate it.

Is she not miserable at it ? That's important.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (2AUcf)

309 Blessed are you, Lord or God, King of Creation. Watch over those here in need. Comfort them, heal them, strengthen them, bless them and may your Holy Spirit walk with them on their journey.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (BtTPD)

310 Hokey Smokes Bulwinkle, the world is on fire.

https://tinyurl.com/2vsxca6e
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:09 PM (vWeTL)

Um, the thermenal anomally closest to me is probably just the landfill at Coffin Butte in Benton County

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (D7oie)

311 If'n I was Vlad... I'd go after supply lines... roads, bridges, railroads... especially at border crossings into the EU...

Ukes are not supplying their own stuff... its getting shipped and flown in.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2025 09:21 PM (mP0Kj)

Maybe the Russkis had some some really good intel on Zelensky's location, and figured they had a good chance to bomb his ass right to Hell.

Posted by: Joni Mitchell at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (Cbb9L)

312 >>Turns out, she was always underqualified. All the layoffs (FDA, Park Service, NIH, etc) here put too big a pool of STEM here right now.

>>Oh Yeah ... and they are uniformly awful.

>>Its all just credentials crowding and dick-bumping.

Always told by the STEM is the way crowd that the reason we should listen to STEM grads is because they know how stuff works.

But when it comes to government they seem to believe that rule doesn't matter. It's screaming that works.

dick bumping STEMs

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:24 PM (viF8m)

313 Marcus T, Bless you.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2025 09:24 PM (DLqye)

314 Depending on what she has done, I would look into immunology labs, and blood work. I had a GF who worked at a lab that did immuno assay kits and made good money.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 09:19 PM (D7oie)

We did...all no's. Even had the science lead of a DNA analysis company come to her class, love her (and he found out his company had already turned her down after a pre-interview), and then he decides to resubmit her resume personally for reconsideration...and then the company still turned her down with no further interview.

Yeah, she got a little burned out on STEM interviewing.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:24 PM (tOcjL)

315 Off, sock.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:24 PM (Cbb9L)

316 >>> I've heard for 2 weeks now that ZOMG there will only be $9.4 billion in DOGE cuts! Uh, no. That's the first of what will be a number of bills and that is only one means of actually cutting discretionary spending.

Posted by: JackStraw
----------------------

That's the fault line. A promise that it will happen. It feels very much like
'you've got to pass the bill to see what's in the bill'.
We've been down that road before.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:25 PM (vWeTL)

317 Watching golf, PGA is up in Canada this week. Next week is the US Open in Pennsylvania.
For kicks, did the road mileage on google maps. If I wanted to head out to one or the other, it's either 539 or 548 miles.
Slow day today.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 05, 2025 09:25 PM (n4GiU)

318 >>The point is that there is no point. This is a couple of tomcats pissing at each other in a Chesapeake Bay alley. Nothing more to it than that.

Richest guy in the world and the most powerful guy in the world picking a very public fight over basically nothing.

ok

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:26 PM (viF8m)

319 309 Blessed are you, Lord or God, King of Creation. Watch over those here in need. Comfort them, heal them, strengthen them, bless them and may your Holy Spirit walk with them on their journey.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (BtTPD)

Thank you.

God is helping me now. I trust Him but just want things over soon.

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:27 PM (jvJvP)

320 Trump will continue being President, and Musk will continue being the richest man in the world, and that's that. DC will continue ignoring both of them, and that's that.

That's the point, I guess.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:28 PM (BI5O2)

321 Richest guy in the world and the most powerful guy in the world picking a very public fight over basically nothing.

ok
Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:26 PM (viF8m)

And what's being done that they don't want you to see, eh? I'm going with "theater".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:28 PM (Cbb9L)

322 Always told by the STEM is the way crowd that the reason we should listen to STEM grads is because they know how stuff works.

Pro Tip ... my Green Fogged Friend that turned me onto the Jerry Garcia Band.

If you're that smart ... don't bother telling me. Show me. Make things happen. Make drawings and write programs and manage money and handle people such that, at the end of the day, a thing is built and does something.

Don't trust Engineers anymore than Lawyers or Doctors. I don't tell anyone at the bar I'm an Engineer. I just tell them I'm Self Employed.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:28 PM (2AUcf)

323 Does she like it ? Because, as I found out, you don't have to like your job ... but you can't hate it.

Is she not miserable at it ? That's important.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:23 PM (2AUcf)

She is enjoying how supportive they are and how much they want here. Again, after 4 months of tons of nos, the yeses were an ego boost. And I think she's shocked they actually provided training, and now more training so she knows what she'll be doing.

She starts the work herself in two weeks. For now (and the last few weeks), she's still just being trained to learn the job and get certs (which she's very good at).

She appreciates the company wants to fully train their staff and at cost before having them deal with the kids (and parents).

She told me the job (b/c she's shadowed) feels like our homeschooling, so apparently, I prepped her well - maybe it was always intended to go this way.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:29 PM (tOcjL)

324 Oakmont is a bitch of a course.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, cowhand of the Apocalypse at June 05, 2025 09:30 PM (4ms1f)

325 246 Holy hell, I am fucking stupid.

Sock_rat_eez.

Years and I just said that in my head and got it. I am the stupid.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Dude. It took me a decade to figure out Helena Handbasket.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 09:31 PM (xRMIr)

326 It was the sea water. The Romans used sea water in their cement.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2025 09:32 PM (DLqye)

327 >> Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:27 PM (jvJvP)

Always trust Him. He will never abandon you. Even when you feel alone, he is there to carry you. Never quit. He will never quit in you.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 09:32 PM (BtTPD)

328 She told me the job (b/c she's shadowed) feels like our homeschooling, so apparently, I prepped her well - maybe it was always intended to go this way.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 05, 2025 09:29 PM (tOcjL)

Then this makes sense. She likes the "structure". As does my daughter.

Do me a favor ... drop in on her place of work, just once. Get a "feel" of it. Please. Just to make sure everything is on the up and up.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:32 PM (2AUcf)

329 Thank you Ben Had.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 09:33 PM (BtTPD)

330 Tree apple, Rand Paul has rational thoughts on what would make the big acceptable for his vote. ...very interesting

https://tinyurl.com/4bu9fxsy

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:33 PM (vWeTL)

331 >>That's the fault line. A promise that it will happen. It feels very much like
'you've got to pass the bill to see what's in the bill'.
We've been down that road before.

No, we haven't. We've never been on the same map as the road we are on now. What's happened over the last 4 months makes that very clear.

I like cynicism. It's been my constant friend all my life. But if you think this administration is anywhere near where we've been in the last 50 years you and I see what's going on in completly different terms.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:33 PM (viF8m)

332 That floating bog, was the expertise of one Hank Johnson sought for that undertaking?

Posted by: Ciampino - can the island swim? at June 05, 2025 09:34 PM (sPQoU)

333 Always trust Him. He will never abandon you. Even when you feel alone, he is there to carry you. Never quit. He will never quit in you.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 05, 2025 09:32 PM (BtTPD)

Thank you again.

Posted by: Stateless.. 18% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 05, 2025 09:37 PM (jvJvP)

334 Is that a real summary? I never read the article where Trump discussed the conversation. Just saw the headline.
Posted by: polynikes
------------------------

Don't know what Trump's response was but Putin said he was going to hit them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:37 PM (vWeTL)

335 That floating bog, was the expertise of one Hank Johnson sought for that undertaking?
Posted by: Ciampino - can the island swim? at June 05, 2025 09:34 PM (sPQoU)

I'm somewhat surprised no one invited him to get under the bog and push it in the right direction - or just make sure it didn't tip over.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 05, 2025 09:37 PM (VNX3d)

336 It's why I'm glad she's out of STEM. She's in a non-deportable job in a semi-soft "health care" position where she's getting trained and licensed by the hiring company. It's kinda ideal for now...and since it involves dealing with autistic and ADHD kids (and my daughter is an unlimited font of patience thanks to her younger brothers), no Fed Gov wants it and the area hiring groups are desperate enough to pay for everything and take the unlicensed and license them.
Posted by: Nova Local

Bless her. Sometimes it isn’t the big certs and the big jobs that get us where we are supposed to be.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 09:39 PM (xRMIr)

337 Trump will continue being President, and Musk will continue being the richest man in the world, and that's that. DC will continue ignoring both of them, and that's that.

That's the point, I guess.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:28 PM (BI5O2)

Or Trump will be forced to make Bondi release the Epstien files in full to clear his own name.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 09:39 PM (D7oie)

338 324 Oakmont is a bitch of a course.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

One of the few courses in the world that can be ready for a golf major with very little prep. It's difficult as it is. Lee Trevino said as much.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 05, 2025 09:40 PM (6PUpl)

339 >>>I like cynicism. It's been my constant friend all my life. But if you think this administration is anywhere near where we've been in the last 50 years you and I see what's going on in completly different terms.

Posted by: JackStraw
--------------------

I trust the Admin. I don't trust congress.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:42 PM (vWeTL)

340 Thanks Ace.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at June 05, 2025 09:43 PM (FPGXM)

341 Sneaking a peek at the master plan whiteboard in DNC HQ:

Now that this SCOTUS term is ending, in six months the New York State Appeals Court hearing the appeal of Trump's financial fraud judgement will be ordered to issue a rubber stamp ruling upholding the crazy leftist NY judge's fines and penalties. Trump will appeal to SCOTUS. SCOTUS takes the case and a year from now overturns the ruling of Judge (I forget his name). Just in time for the Democrats to use that rile-up their base for the midterms.

Tin foil hat off.

Posted by: Gref at June 05, 2025 09:43 PM (aBgBM)

342 >>I trust the Admin. I don't trust congress.

No serious person does.

And yet Musk went after Trump and not Congress. The smartest and richest STEM guy in the world.

What a shocker.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:44 PM (viF8m)

343 surfeit
n noun
1 an excess.
2 archaic an illness caused or regarded as being caused by excessive eating or drinking.
n verb (surfeits, surfeiting, surfeited)
1 make (someone) weary of something through excess.
2 archaic overeat.

ORIGIN
Middle English: from Old French surfeit, based on Latin super- 'above, in excess' + facere 'do'.

Posted by: Ciampino - can it at June 05, 2025 09:44 PM (sPQoU)

344 >>>Or Trump will be forced to make Bondi release the Epstien files in full to clear his own name.
Posted by: Kindltot
--------------

It's not news that Trump was on Epstein's list.
It's also not news that Trump testified against Epstein in Florida.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:45 PM (vWeTL)

345 Or Trump will be forced to make Bondi release the Epstien files in full to clear his own name.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 05

Nope.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:45 PM (BI5O2)

346 >>>And yet Musk went after Trump and not Congress. The smartest and richest STEM guy in the world.

What a shocker.
Posted by: JackStraw
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If you look at the timeline Musk went after the bill. Trump went after Musk.
That's the sequence of the first two blows.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:47 PM (vWeTL)

347 Where's Ciampino?

Posted by: TecumsehTea at June 05, 2025 09:48 PM (Eo96p)

348 The Epstein files are above Trump's authority, let alone Musk's. They'll never see the light of day.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:48 PM (BI5O2)

349 Where's Ciampino?
Posted by: TecumsehTea at June 05, 2025 09:48 PM (Eo96p)

Right here in this thread.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:48 PM (Cbb9L)

350 I'm going to go and get a surfeit of vodka with a little pineapple juice.
bbiam

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 09:49 PM (vWeTL)

351 "And yet Musk went after Trump and not Congress."
Musk went after Congress as well.

Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 09:50 PM (afPT4)

352 Anyone heard from whig?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 09:51 PM (mT+6a)

353 Anyone heard from whig?
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 05, 2025 09:51 PM (mT+6a)

No. And his absence is worrisome. He has not been in the most robust state of health.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:53 PM (Cbb9L)

354 The Epstein files are above Trump's authority, let alone Musk's. They'll never see the light of day.

Hence the problem. Tell me I can't disclose something ? You'll see that shit on more billboards than a Buccees.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:53 PM (2AUcf)

355 The crazy thing about the Epstein op is that there's definitely a dozen others just like it. He was just reckless enough to be caught, or designated to be "caught" as a warning to the subjects of the others.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:53 PM (BI5O2)

356 Or Trump will be forced to make Bondi release the Epstien files in full to clear his own name.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2025 09:39 PM (D7oie)

If Trump was in the Epstein files why was the last administration fabricating stuff rather than simply release proof DJT was an Epstein client?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at June 05, 2025 09:54 PM (pIfcn)

357 The Epstein Files have been erased, wiped, zeroized, shredded, burned, the ashes encased in concrete, and dropped into the Marianas Trench. They are long gone. They've been long gone for a while now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at June 05, 2025 09:54 PM (6PUpl)

358 Hence the problem. Tell me I can't disclose something ? You'll see that shit on more billboards than a Buccees.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:53 PM (2AUcf)

Sure.

But what if I tell you aren't even allowed to see them? What do you put on a billboard?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:54 PM (BI5O2)

359 352 Anyone heard from whig?

oh no!!!

oh dear

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 05, 2025 09:55 PM (Pv3Rg)

360 >>If you look at the timeline Musk went after the bill. Trump went after Musk.
That's the sequence of the first two blows.

I looked at the timeline. I also know that Trump has been pushing this bill, and for some reason nobody here seems to actually know what's in it and why it needs to pass, for months.

Musk has also known since the day he took the DOGE job how this was going to play out. He had a private home for he and his son at Mar A Lago. He's been Trump's bestie since before the election. It would take a suspension of belief or the belief that Musk is in reality a fucking retard to believe he didn't understand what has been going on for months.

He was in all the cabinet meetings. He talked to Trump whenever he wanted. He was meeting with Congress constantly. And he just figured out today after getting a golden key to the White House from Trump last week he didn't like the bill?

The timeline didn't start this morning.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 09:55 PM (viF8m)

361 IMHO, the true "owner" of the Epstein files is the WEF, who hired Epstein to get kompromat on all the WEF flunkies. "To prove your loyalty to us, you will go to Epstein's island, boink an underage child of your choosing, and agree to have it videoed. We are all in the same boat It is to ensure you don't go rogue on us."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 05, 2025 09:56 PM (Cbb9L)

362 But what if I tell you aren't even allowed to see them? What do you put on a billboard?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 09:54 PM (BI5O2)

Then especially all of it. All of it. Fuck anyone that insists it has to be a secret like that. We're not in the Cold War anymore.

They should have hung Oppenheimer. But we're way past hanging Assange.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 05, 2025 09:59 PM (2AUcf)

363 Kennedy brought Trump 5-10% of the votes. Musk did the same.
Kennedy got a government department to run pretty much as he saw fit. Musk definitely thought he deserved something similar, but instead of having a well-defined deal with Trump he thought he could trust their personal relationship.
A deal would have been better. This shows naivete.

Posted by: PG at June 05, 2025 10:00 PM (afPT4)

364 Missed him. I saw Braenyard posting the flights but missed Ciampino. Thanks

Posted by: TecumsehTea at June 05, 2025 10:00 PM (Eo96p)

365 The timeline didn't start this morning.
Posted by: JackStraw
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If the dust up didn't start this morning when did it start?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 10:01 PM (vWeTL)

366 >>Kennedy brought Trump 5-10% of the votes. Musk did the same.

Ridiculous.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 10:02 PM (viF8m)

367 We are all in the same boat It is to ensure you don't go rogue on us."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Sad that this is most likely. And probably end of thread as it's 10:02 by the clock down there.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 05, 2025 10:03 PM (n4GiU)

368 361 IMHO, the true "owner" of the Epstein files is the WEF, who hired Epstein to get kompromat on all the WEF flunkies. "To prove your loyalty to us, you will go to Epstein's island, boink an underage child of your choosing, and agree to have it videoed. We are all in the same boat It is to ensure you don't go rogue on us."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The initiation.
Similar to the congressional initiation.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 10:04 PM (vWeTL)

369 >>If the dust up didn't start this morning when did it start?

Ask Elon. He picked the fight. And he's known about this process for at least 4 months.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 10:05 PM (viF8m)

370 366 >>Kennedy brought Trump 5-10% of the votes. Musk did the same.

Ridiculous.
Posted by: JackStraw
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It's not ridiculous (a little defensive are we not?) that Kennedy brought Trump votes that he otherwise would not have received.
Same for Musk.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 10:06 PM (vWeTL)

371 >>>Ask Elon. He picked the fight. And he's known about this process for at least 4 months.
Posted by: JackStraw
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No. You said it. You said it didn't start today. If you know that it didn't start today then you are aware of things that we are not.
Tell us.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 10:08 PM (vWeTL)

372 >>It's not ridiculous (a little defensive are we not?) that Kennedy brought Trump votes that he otherwise would not have received.
Same for Musk.

It's absolutely ridiculous. Unless you pretend that every person that's added to the Trump campaign is a not positive and nobody is turned off by Democrats joining his team.

Trump won in 2016 over the inevitable Hillary despite the Russia bullshit and he won in 2020 other than the now very obvious to even the dimmest bulbs cheating and he was way ahead of both Biden and Harris.

It's great that Musk and RFK and Tulsi came aboard but their impact on voters was minimal. Trump was always going to win and I said it at the time.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 10:13 PM (viF8m)

373 >>No. You said it. You said it didn't start today. If you know that it didn't start today then you are aware of things that we are not.
Tell us.

I did.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 10:14 PM (viF8m)

374 Trump won about a year when that government assassin capped him in the face. Musk is self-aggrandizing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2025 10:25 PM (BI5O2)

375 Pitiful retort.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 05, 2025 10:37 PM (vWeTL)

376 >>Pitiful retort.

And yet I'm right and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2025 10:43 PM (viF8m)

377 Whom the Godz destroy, they First Make MAD...

Remember who did this:
https://tinyurl.com/IceKingJOE-EvilNotMistaken
https://tinyurl.com/EvilDoktor-MichelleO
https://tinyurl.com/EvilDoktor-JILLtheApprentice
https://tinyurl.com/EvilDoktor-HillarySoSerious
https://tinyurl.com/EvilDoktor-GavinUberAlles
https://tinyurl.com/EvilDoktor-KarnBassFIRESTARTER

"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other potential adversaries around the world that they can change our policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.

To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK of additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09 after doing PRECISELY THAT

But I always promised the American people that I will be straight with you. (riteo) ... This is not in our national security interest.
-- JOE BIDEN's enabling the inevitable by capitulation to a lesser Evil.

TROY would have been well served to have looked the Gift Horse in the Mouth.

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at June 06, 2025 12:15 AM (WbE9R)

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