Wednesday Morning Rant

Symbols

One element of our culture war - perhaps the element of the culture war - is the running battle of symbols. Cultural symbols are always destroyed by a conquering force. The vanquished's old symbols are razed and the conqueror raises his own in their place. Whether it's a likeness of Stalin in Budapest or of Hussein in Baghdad or a street name in Detroit, symbols count. The powers that be erect theirs and destroy others.

Sometimes there's a nod to historical or cultural value that allows some symbol or treasure to survive, but sometimes not. Red China still has the Forbidden City despite the destruction of the "Four Olds" during the Cultural Revolution, but no non-Islamic symbols stand in Afghanistan. When the cultural shift happens as a result of shooting war, this process is usually fairly fast - the statue topples, the church is razed, and the new potentate puts up new stuff. When the war is primarily cultural, it's slower and muddier. Subversion is never as fast as direct assault, though it can be more successful.

For the first time in recent memory, one has finally gone our way. In what is likely just the first act in this theater of the culture war, Hegseth's Defense Department is beginning to do away with subversive ship names. Assuming the report is true, first up: oilers. First oiler: USNS Harvey Milk.

Something I didn't know before is that apparently all of our modern oilers are named after "civil rights icons." USNS Harvey Milk was christened during the Obama Administration by Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus. Milk was a Navy man, but that isn't why they named the ship after him. They named the ship after him for being a gay activist, and it's now to be rechristened under a new name yet to be announced. Per the article, neither the choice nor the timing are coincidental, as well they shouldn't be:

Military.com reviewed a memorandum from the Office of the Secretary of the Navy -- the official who holds the power to name Navy ships -- that showed the sea service had come up with rollout plans for the renaming of the oiler ship USNS Harvey Milk.
A defense official confirmed that the Navy was making preparations to strip the ship of its name but noted that Navy Secretary John Phelan was ordered to do so by Hegseth. The official also said that the timing of the announcement -- occurring during Pride month -- was intentional.

Good.

... the memo reviewed by Military.com noted that the renaming was being done so that there is "alignment with president and SECDEF objectives and SECNAV priorities of reestablishing the warrior culture," apparently referencing President Donald Trump, Hegseth and Phelan.

Excellent. Even better, all the usual suspects are already shrieking:

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the former House Speaker who represents much of San Francisco, in a statement Tuesday called the decision to rename the ship "a surrender of a fundamental American value: to honor the legacy of those who worked to build a better country."

Pull the other one, Nance. It jingles.

And more may be on the way:

CBS reported Tuesday that the Navy is also considering renaming other John Lewis-class oilers including the USNS Thurgood Marshall, USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and USNS Harriet Tubman. ... Unlike the Milk, though, some of the ships being considered for renaming have yet to be completed.

Pelosi, of course, has more to say, too:

"Our military is the most powerful in the world -- but this spiteful move does not strengthen our national security or the 'warrior' ethos," she added.

Yes it does, Nancy. This "spiteful move" as you call it is absolutely about both national security and the 'warrior' ethos - in the battle against you and your kind. This isn't about improving the way we look abroad or striking fear into foreign enemies, it's about striking fear into domestic culture warriors who have for decades run roughshod in their campaign of erasure and eradication of American symbols.

The battle may finally - again assuming that the report is true - be amping up. Renaming the oilers, Trump forbidding modern architecture for government buildings, etc. are all important plays in the ongoing battle for American culture. The timing of the Harvey Milk rename is as stupendous as the act itself. It is - if you will pardon the expression - a bit more than a "shot across the bow." It's a broadside, and it's been a long time coming. The only potential concern I have is how Military.com got early access to the memo. If it was leaked, Hegseth needs to find and punish the leaker.

Renaming a ship or rejecting their architectural perversions are perhaps little things, but they are also a clear signal that there is a counteroffensive under way. Hegseth is off to a very strong start in his big job to undo some of the subversion of our military over the past decade or so, and this action widens the campaign as it clearly targets leftist symbols for destruction, shouting that there is no place for leftist cultural revolution in the United States military. That's a good thing because symbols do matter and halting the destruction of our symbols and imposing the destruction of theirs is long overdue.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:15 AM

Comments

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1 Burst

Posted by: The Hon. Errk Swallowelll at June 04, 2025 11:14 AM (tLNZI)

2 1st?

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 04, 2025 11:15 AM (GYt5+)

4 Dammit, not first.

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)

5 It is my opinion we should not name our military ships after pedophiles. I am rigid that way.

Posted by: Piper at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (p4NUW)

6 Harvey Milk loved semen, so there's that

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

7 Corgis called

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (tLNZI)

8 6 Harvey Milk loved semen, so there's that
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (cD1dp)

9 The Peace symbol was the biggest commie prop yet.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (/U5Yz)

10 >> Milk was a Navy man

I did not know this and it’s funny as hell.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (l3YAf)

11 I'd keep "Harriet Tubman," as she risked her life to ferry slaves via the Underground Railroad.

But the other scumbags? As a wise man once said, "May their names be stricken from every pylon and tablet."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (Dg2sF)

12 Harriet Tubman was kind of a badass. I wouldn't be in favor of renaming her ship.

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (77rzZ)

13 There should be no statue erected of any living person.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (VofaG)

14 10 >> Milk was a Navy man

I did not know this and it’s funny as hell.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (l3YAf)

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He sailed the seven seas in the navy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:18 AM (cD1dp)

15 I foresee a "Rabbit Season - Duck Season" type situation with the renaming of not only these ships, but anything else that gets stripped of its gayness. Only to be re-re named with the next Democrat.

Ad nauseum.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 04, 2025 11:18 AM (Q4IgG)

16 It is my opinion we should not name our military ships after pedophiles. I am rigid that way.
Posted by: Piper at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (p4NUW)

*sad Joe Biden noises*

Posted by: USS Biden, a latrine ship at June 04, 2025 11:18 AM (l3YAf)

17 Milk abused a 16 year old. The person ended up committing suicide. This is not a person to honor.

Posted by: Piper at June 04, 2025 11:19 AM (p4NUW)

18 Rename one of them the USS Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 04, 2025 11:19 AM (662lG)

19 this spiteful move does not strengthen our national security or the 'warrior' ethos," she added.

Nancy Pelosi knows sweet FA about the warrior ethos. And why is warrior in scare quotes? All of you Dems can EABOD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2025 11:19 AM (dPfyF)

20 Thx Joe. The spiteful move was sticking the name Harvey Milk in our faces. FU Nan your family helped wreck two American cities, don't lecture us about strengthening national security

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 04, 2025 11:19 AM (oRTCs)

21 Take away statues and they do nothing. Take away a ship and it's the end of the world.

How about naming a ship the USS Rick Rescorla?

Posted by: NR Pax at June 04, 2025 11:19 AM (+4yJ5)

22 >> Milk was a Navy man

I did not know this and it’s funny as hell.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM (l3YAf)

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He sailed the seven seas in the navy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:18 AM

Original crew member of The Raging Queen.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2025 11:19 AM (dPfyF)

23 One element of our culture war - perhaps the element of the culture war - is the running battle of symbols. Cultural symbols are always destroyed by a conquering force.

The vanquished's old symbols are razed and the conqueror raises his own in their place.

Aunt Jemima, Land O' Lakes, Civil War statues. Washington Defenders.

Gulf of America.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (hKnez)

24 Heh. They ought to rename 'em all after Confederate generals. The nutbags on the left would spontaneously combust in unison.

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (tLNZI)

25 If Pelosi doesn’t like it then it’s definitely the right thing to do.

Nancy, I consider North Koreans to be as much my countrymen as you and your kind. Enjoy the spiteful politics that you helped create.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (jbnUc)

26 Milk was a Navy man

He enjoyed seamen.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (hKnez)

27 Land O' Lakes - removed the Indian and kept the land.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (Dv3i1)

28 They should rename four ships for each of the Four Chaplains, if they don't have ships named after them already.

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (77rzZ)

29 I'm against naming ships after people at all. I'll concede an exception for truly exceptional people who are long dead whose contributions to the country have stood the test of time.

I'm totally against naming them after minor perverts and faggots or slimy activists -- all far left, natch -- or even recent people who done well for the country.

Naming a warship after someone is a true honor of the highest regard. It should be reserved only for the best of the best.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (iFTx/)

30
How about a compromise. Rechristen the erler as USS "Harvey Milk Burns in Hell."

The phrase about his current location could be painted underneath the existing name, saving money.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (ES1Rb)

31 Its spiteful to name military ships after peopled who really didn't like America.

I don't know if i'd put Harriet Tubman in that category though. Still don't know they would name a Navy ship after her though.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (VofaG)

32 Harvey Milk loved semen, so there's that
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM

I'm sure Ben Roethlisberger will be along shortly.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (dPfyF)

33 Great essay. Thanks.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (o/5fZ)

34 Personally I don't like naming ships after politicians. Period. I wish our warships had fearsome names like "American Vengeance." "Rolling Thunder." "You Done Fucked Up" "Nonstop Brutality."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (662lG)

35 Milk achieved a rank just slightly above ensign in his undistinguished Navy career.

He is only on a ship because he was a gay activist.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)

36 flopsy mopsy as per abc news:

Former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has a book out this fall that promises a close look at President Biden's decision not to run for reelection and calls for thinking beyond the two-party system.

Jean-Pierre herself has switched her affiliation to independent after working in two Democratic administrations, according to Legacy Lit, a Hachette Book Group imprint that will publish "Independent: A Look Inside a Broken White House, Outside the Party Lines" on Oct. 21.

Posted by: gnats local 675 at June 04, 2025 11:22 AM (CWTWj)

37 They ought to rename 'em all after Confederate generals. The nutbags on the left would spontaneously combust in unison.
Posted by: Polka will never die

Matthew Fontaine Maury, the father of modern oceanography, who went with the Confederacy.

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:22 AM (77rzZ)

38 Milk achieved a rank just slightly above ensign in his undistinguished Navy career.

He is only on a ship because he was a gay activist.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 04, 2025 11:21 AM (XV/Pl)

And he left after he came out.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:23 AM (VofaG)

39 "a surrender of a fundamental American value: to honor the legacy of those who worked to build a better country."

And all I have to add - beware all those Republicans who tell you to "pick your battles". Are names important ?

Well - your political enemies sure think so. And they fight on all fronts. So you lose, by default, wherever you don't show up to fight.

Exhausting, isn't it - the notion that no situation is simply "solved". But rather everything is a constant battle. Well - that's the terms your enemies have chosen. So you'll either fight in the gutter with them, or lose.

Don't trust those supposedly on your side that tell you "its just a name".

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:23 AM (EatKz)

40 At least Admiral Boorda had the decency to commit suicide.

Posted by: Zombie Tom Lantos at June 04, 2025 11:23 AM (G5+As)

41 Jean-Pierre herself has switched her affiliation to independent after working in two Democratic administrations

Showing that she's not too stupid to realize the Dem label is toxic. Still a commie, but one who figured out branding.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM (dPfyF)

42 What did Harvey Milk do to build our nation?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM (cD1dp)

43 At least Admiral Boorda had the decency to commit suicide.
Posted by: Zombie Tom Lantos at June 04, 2025 11:23 AM

I heard that in Rush Limbaugh's voice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM (dPfyF)

44 Gulf of America

Is that big mountain in Alaska back to being Mount McKinley or is it still Denali? Given Trump’s affinity for McKinley’s tariffs I’d be surprised it it doesn’t revert to the former name

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM (6RwsA)

45 How long get an Army base named "Fort Buttigieg?"

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

46 Naming a Navy ship after a gay guy definitely tracks, but he was dishonorably discharged for being a pedo so putting his name on in the first place was stupid.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 04, 2025 11:25 AM (2ocoG)

47 i remember the twinkie defense

i also remember seeing diane feinstein step over the bodies to climb her political ladder

Posted by: cherries in season at June 04, 2025 11:25 AM (txyUt)

48 32 Harvey Milk loved semen, so there's that
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (iFTx/)

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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:17 AM

I'm sure Ben Roethlisberger will be along shortly.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE OF THE JUXTAPOSITION OF "LONG" AND "SHORT"

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 04, 2025 11:25 AM (oY6Yp)

49 Is that big mountain in Alaska back to being Mount McKinley or is it still Denali? Given Trump’s affinity for McKinley’s tariffs I’d be surprised it it doesn’t revert to the former name
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Yes, he changed it back at the same time he renamed the Gulf.

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (77rzZ)

50 I don't know how any of this naming of things works...but despite how much I love seeing the realignment back to the military's core mission and away from culture wars, I can't help but think it will just all be unwound by the next D lunatic president. We need sooo many more years to unwind the degeneracy, evil and corruption from our gov't.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (qBdHI)

51 Should rename it the USNS Wayne Gretsky. He was a great Oiler.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (4ia/r)

52 Yes I was happy to read this story this morning

we should not be naming ships for the heroes of the radical left, or politicians at all

except maybe a truly good President
war hero
famous battle
maybe even a famous ship that has gone before

AND NEVER A MEMBER OF CONGRESS

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (AOsQT)

53 Milk was a Navy man.

Boomer fag?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (ZmEVT)

54 42 What did Harvey Milk do to build our nation?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM (cD1dp)

He's one of their heroes, it has nothing to do with america. Or rather, it is the america they want.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y)

55 Civil rights hero?

Name it USS Representative Robert Smalls. Born into slavery, he escaped to the blackade of Charlseton with a steamboat, the other enslaved members of the crew, their families, and thr boat's cargo of cannons. He volunteered for the Union Army afterwards, piloting supply transports in battle.

During one battle the boat's assigned captain abandoned the bridge so Smalls took command and completed the mission.

After the war he learned to read and write, went into business, and then into politics. He served in South Carolina's legislature then the US House of Representatives.

Democrats fabricated bribery charges against him, dropping the charges in exchange for charges of vote fraud against a number of Democrats getting dropped. Smalls continued attending Republican national conventions as long as he could, despite the Jim Crow Democrats making it impossible for him to actually continue in politics.

The only obstacles is thr Navy already has a cruiser named for him, but its name doesn't mention his title. Maybe use the name of the boat he captured during his escape -- the Planter -- or the name of the boat he took command of?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (iX1qt)

56 Willowed from previous and a reply:

Angels have no gender as they have no reproductive function. But when depicted in human form in the Bible, they are always men.
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I was listening to a preacher recently who asserted that "fallen angels" depicted in some biblical passages were angels that gave into lust and reproduced with human females.

Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (TN0g+)

57 Posted by: Piper at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (p4NUW)

I think he was technically an ephebophile (attraction by older people to young men sixteen to nineteen), but he took advantage of kids on the street. And no, there is no reason a ship should be named after him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (EJtBU)

58
"...Pedophiles Hardest Hit!"

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (JUV6P)

59
42 What did Harvey Milk do to build our nation?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM

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He donated miracle adhesive.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (ES1Rb)

60 they can rename sports teams because of made up 'feelings' but renaming a ship named after a pedophile is a bridge too far.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (VofaG)

61 >I can't help but think it will just all be unwound by the next D lunatic president.

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absolutely
the next D president will probably commission the USS Ru Paul['i]

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (AOsQT)

62 51 Should rename it the USNS Wayne Gretsky. He was a great Oiler.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (4ia/r)

The USS Earl Campbell

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (tLNZI)

63 👍 Symbols matter; symbols of strength matter more.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (NFX2v)

64 54 42 What did Harvey Milk do to build our nation?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:24 AM (cD1dp)

He's one of their heroes, it has nothing to do with america. Or rather, it is the america they want.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y)

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I understand that. But Nancy asserted that Milk helped build the nation.

What is it that he...did? Getting CA to allow gay teachers?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (cD1dp)

65 tagfail

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (AOsQT)

66 Showing that she's not too stupid to realize the Dem label is toxic. Still a commie, but one who figured out branding.

The Caribbean Muppet ? She's about as Communist as I'm a Brain Surgeon.

She's a grifter. She grifts on all things easily grifted on by women ... the vag. She's looking for points for that. And she's grifting on being "black" when it suits her. Yet perfectly pronounces everything in the most sterile of accents when neither Caribbean or Black fits the room.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (EatKz)

67 Can you imagine serving on a ship named for someone because he was a pedophile? What would that do for your "warrior ethos"?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (t0Rmr)

68 The worst example of the politician name-game is Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas.

What a total scumbag.

I wish it were named Oscar Goodman International Airport instead. He did much more for the city of Las Vegas and was certainly more universally popular.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (2Qdab)

69 61 >I can't help but think it will just all be unwound by the next D lunatic president.

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absolutely
the next D president will probably commission the USS Ru Paul['i]
Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:28 AM (AOsQT)

We're in a cycle of escalation (ala Marius, then Sulla, Then Marius, Then Sulla.) The next dem admin will be insane. Like completely crackers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)

70 Former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has a book out this fall that promises a close look at President Biden's decision not to run for reelection and calls for thinking beyond the two-party system.

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Like multiple parties that then form coalitions, thereby making it easy to squeeze out the conservative right even when they win? We see it happen all the time.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 04, 2025 11:29 AM (qBdHI)

71 he other enslaved members of the crew

You mean, slaves?

This "enslaved" business sticks in my craw.

Posted by: Bulg at June 04, 2025 11:29 AM (77rzZ)

72 The worst example of the politician name-game is Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas.

Last time I went through there it was still McCarren. Do you get a complimentary black eye now in honor of Reid?

Posted by: Ian S. at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (2ocoG)

73 I watched Quigley Down Under last night. Did they hire the ugliest and most misshapen Aborigines in Australia, or are Aborigines the ugliest and most misshapen human beings in the world?

I give them props for casting actual natives, though. If Hollywood made the movie today, the Aborigines would all look like 30 year old Halle Berry.

Overall the movie was meh.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

74 Leave the Harriet Tubman. Good Republican, as likely to shoot you, if need be, as shake your hand! She can stay!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (5BUO5)

75 If ships are to be named after a person, that person should be a serviceman/woman who gave his/her life in service of the country, or had a distinguished naval career. Presidents don't qualify. I like the British tradition of naming ships after a badass characteristic: Dreadnaught, Warspite, Invincible, etc.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (xAP/Y)

76 Civil rights hero?

Without Harvey Milk, a little boy may never have grown up to become the great Rear Admiral Rachel Levine.

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (0w7Of)

77 Land O' Lakes - removed the Indian and kept the land.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 04, 2025 11:20 AM (Dv3i1)
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Every stick of butter should come with a "land acknowledgement" statement.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (7fElN)

78 When was the name of the Department of War changed to the Department of Defense?

Posted by: Wenda at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (KGfTv)

79 When the war is primarily cultural, it's slower and muddier. Subversion is never as fast as direct assault, though it can be more successful.

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During Subversive Transgender Genocide Vengeance Pride Month Of Rage?

REALLY, Mannix???

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (V9heG)

80 Tubman can have an airbase or army base, but not a ship.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (xAP/Y)

81 First oiler: USNS Harvey Milk.

Oh, please no!

My favorite teams are the Oilers and the Packers!

Posted by: Men on Football at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (jo6FO)

82 74 Leave the Harriet Tubman. Good Republican, as likely to shoot you, if need be, as shake your hand! She can stay!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (5BUO5)

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Naval ship names should probably be naval related.

We could use another USS Oliver Hazard Perry.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (cD1dp)

83 >What did Harvey Milk do to build our nation?
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he dorked young men up the squeakhole
it did ZERO to further the American Way, however
butt, that was his contribution

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (AOsQT)

84 The next dem admin will be insane. Like completely crackers.

You mean the last one wasn’t?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (5BUO5)

85 84 The next dem admin will be insane. Like completely crackers.

You mean the last one wasn’t?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (5BUO5)

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The figurehead will be more obviously insane instead of just demented.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:32 AM (cD1dp)

86 You mean, slaves?

This "enslaved" business sticks in my craw.

No offense intended.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 04, 2025 11:32 AM (iX1qt)

87 Wasn't Milk a confirmed MAP?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 04, 2025 11:32 AM (xAP/Y)

88 >> Aunt Jemima

I always thought Mrs. Butterworth was black, but since she wasn’t canceled I guess she’s white.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 11:32 AM (l3YAf)

89 Milk was a Navy man, but that isn't why they named the ship after him. They named the ship after him for being a gay activist, and it's now to be rechristened under a new name yet to be announced.

They really should have named it Cocky McCockface to begin with.

Posted by: Shadows at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (9iPPy)

90 CBS reported Tuesday that the Navy is also considering renaming other John Lewis-class oilers including the USNS Thurgood Marshall, USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and USNS Harriet Tubman. ...

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How 'bout the USNS St. George Floyd?

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (V9heG)

91 I wish our warships had fearsome names like "American Vengeance."

How about something like "Fluffy"? Because seriously, our enemies showing up at the other side because they got killed by a barrage from Fluffy is cool.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (+4yJ5)

92 82 74 Leave the Harriet Tubman. Good Republican, as likely to shoot you, if need be, as shake your hand! She can stay!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (5BUO5)

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Naval ship names should probably be naval related.

or at least navel related.

Posted by: anachronda at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (oY6Yp)

93 The worst example of the politician name-game is Harry Reid International Airport in Las Vegas.

The renaming of Army Street to Cesar Chavez Blvd always got me.

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (Vm5SY)

94 55 Civil rights hero?
Name it USS Representative Robert Smalls.
....
Posted by: Rob Crawford

Great idea. Also great additional details in the post to illustrate how the Dem party hasn't changed one bit since then.

I remember being shocked to discover that the "first black" representatives from many southern states were Republicans. But they don't count in today's media. I would guess that over 80% of the country will be as shocked to discover this as I was.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (Dv3i1)

95 Karine Jean-Pierre says she's an independent now.

https://tinyurl.com/3x9c64j6

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (paSBy)

96 Change the name of LaGuardia to Joey Bag O' Donuts International F***in' Airport

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (AOsQT)

97 That was a great read Joe. Thanks.

Posted by: Stateless.. 13% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (jvJvP)

98 Leave the Harriet Tubman. Good Republican, as likely to shoot you, if need be, as shake your hand! She can stay!

And then the Mexicans will insist some gun-toting Coyote that shot an ICE agent here or there get a ship.

No. Just because Republicans still love to reach back a couple hundred years and claim moral superiority over things they never participated in doesn't make it any better than when Democrats do it.

No Harriet Tubman anything. No John Brown either.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (EatKz)

99 78 When was the name of the Department of War changed to the Department of Defense?
Posted by: Wenda

Right after the last war we "won".

Posted by: What's In a Name? at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (G5+As)

100 Oilers should have fun names like "Mother's Milk" and "Gasoline Alley."

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (ZmEVT)

101 My brother was in the service, I never was, so if there is a preference that’s a long-standing tradition in the Navy for naming oilers, I wouldn’t know. What is the tradition?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (5BUO5)

102 We're in a cycle of escalation (ala Marius, then Sulla, Then Marius, Then Sulla.) The next dem admin will be insane. Like completely crackers.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)

This is probably true but nevertheless an unsettling analogy…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (i5Vkf)

103 Naming a warship after someone is a true honor of the highest regard. It should be reserved only for the best of the best.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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~bat-bat-bat,,bat-bat~

Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (5hfjS)

104 Little Orphan Karine no home yet.

Posted by: toby928 at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (jc0TO)

105 94 Great idea. Also great additional details in the post to illustrate how the Dem party hasn't changed one bit since then.

I remember being shocked to discover that the "first black" representatives from many southern states were Republicans. But they don't count in today's media. I would guess that over 80% of the country will be as shocked to discover this as I was.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 04, 2025 11:33 AM (Dv3i1)

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"The parties switched sides. Republicans were so angry that their leadership snuck through the Civil Rights Act that they literally walked across the aisle in Congress and switched parties."
-something a college professor told me

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (cD1dp)

106 USS Pinochet

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (/U5Yz)

107 95 Karine Jean-Pierre says she's an independent now.

Maybe she'll start a HomelyFans page for her lesbo audience.

Posted by: Shadows at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (9iPPy)

108 Remember Chris Rock's joke about a MLK Boulevard always being in the shittiest part of town

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (AOsQT)

109 USA TODAY@USATODAY
Boulder suspect’s daughter dreamed of studying medicine. Now she faces deportation.

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Geez! You burn a few people alive and, all of a sudden, you're the bad guy!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (WJBLg)

110 Put me some knowledge - is the USS Enterprise decommissioned? Because if I were Secretary of the Navy, I'd move heaven and earth to assign her a Captain Kirk, A First Officer Spock and Chief Medical Officer McCoy.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (Dg2sF)

111 109 USA TODAY@USATODAY
Boulder suspect’s daughter dreamed of studying medicine. Now she faces deportation.

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Geez! You burn a few people alive and, all of a sudden, you're the bad guy!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (WJBLg)

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And America has the only medical schools on the planet, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:36 AM (cD1dp)

112 I like the British tradition of naming ships after a badass characteristic: Dreadnaught, Warspite, Invincible, etc.

The USS Perversion!

Posted by: The DNC at June 04, 2025 11:36 AM (tPOKY)

113 I would guess that over 80% of the country will be as shocked to discover this as I was.

Don't underestimate how stupid / miseducated people are. I saw a lefty on X yesterday preening about how MAGA's gonna be even madder than when Democrats defeated the Confederacy.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 04, 2025 11:36 AM (2ocoG)

114 Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:26 AM (AOsQT)

I say only a President who served in combat in the Navy or Marines.

Vance was a Marine combat correspondent so possibly if he can become President. He had a fast start as VP but Musk and others took over so now he appears just to be a typical VP figurehead.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (VofaG)

115 If ships are to be named after a person, that person should be a serviceman/woman who gave his/her life in service of the country, or had a distinguished naval career. Presidents don't qualify. I like the British tradition of naming ships after a badass characteristic: Dreadnaught, Warspite, Invincible, etc.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (xAP/Y)

And Milk resigned his commission rather than face a court martial for homosexuality. It was a culture war move to name the ship after him, and it is a culture war counter move to remove his name. That is the only reason lefties are screeching.

You lost. Suck it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (i24o9)

116 USS Pinochet
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Perhaps for an aircraft name but not a ship.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (cYBz/)

117 113 I would guess that over 80% of the country will be as shocked to discover this as I was.

Don't underestimate how stupid / miseducated people are. I saw a lefty on X yesterday preening about how MAGA's gonna be even madder than when Democrats defeated the Confederacy.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 04, 2025 11:36 AM (2ocoG)

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The parties switched in the 60s! It's why modern Democrats love Coolidge and hate FDR and modern Republicans love FDR and hate Coolidge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (cD1dp)

118 A lot of Blacks were elected during Reconstruction for the very simple reason that the Whites were disenfranchised.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (ZmEVT)

119 Maybe they should name Navy oilers, which aren't technically warships, after great pioneers in the oil industry, you know the people who made the production of affordable oil possible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (4ia/r)

120 100 Oilers should have fun names like "Mother's Milk" and "Gasoline Alley."

i'm right here, you know

Posted by: leonhard euler at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (oY6Yp)

121 Karine Jean-Pierre says she's an independent now.

So, she's now considering men, too?

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (6keFU)

122 Perhaps for an aircraft name but not a ship.

Why are ships sacred and planes not? Should be the other way around.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (2ocoG)

123 I regret never getting to comfort the cabin boys.

Posted by: zombie Harvey Milk at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM (0sNs1)

124 I was listening to a preacher recently who asserted that "fallen angels" depicted in some biblical passages were angels that gave into lust and reproduced with human females.
Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 11:27 AM (TN0g+)

--Genesis Chapter 6, the Nephilim

Posted by: logprof at June 04, 2025 11:38 AM (jo6FO)

125 She's free to study medicine in her home country. Good luck!

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at June 04, 2025 11:38 AM (+BqEV)

126 I always thought Mrs. Butterworth was black…

She was just passing for black: her true colors come out as you empty the bottle!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:38 AM (5BUO5)

127 Maybe they should name Navy oilers, which aren't technically warships, after great pioneers in the oil industry, you know the people who made the production of affordable oil possible.
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The USS Frank Phillips.

Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (TN0g+)

128 You mean the last one wasn’t?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:31 AM (5BUO5)

I mean far worse. They will take Trump investigating clearly illegal wrongdoing to further escalate political imprisonments, show trials, executions. They are working themselves up for it right now.

There was always a fundamental disconnect in the Left's reasoning. They papered over the crimes of Mao or Stalin while highlighting the Holocaust. It acted as a mental check on their... verve (only some of them, see weather underground or the 70s paramilitary revolutionaries.) How do you remove this check? Completely deny the holocaust and jettison the jews as part of your bloc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (bss/y)

129 Hey. Those catamites are going to groom themselves.

Posted by: Zombie Harvey Milk at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (ZmEVT)

130 I would suggest renaming the Oilers and related resupply ships in the USN after WWI and WWII Cooks and Stewards branch meritorious or combat awards.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)

131 Maybe they should name Navy oilers, which aren't technically warships, after great pioneers in the oil industry, you know the people who made the production of affordable oil possible.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2025 11:37 AM

You mean the people responsible for Climate Change??????

HOW DARE YOU ????!!????!????????!?

Posted by: Greta, the future Mrs. Thunberg-Hogg at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (0sNs1)

132 Don't underestimate how stupid / miseducated people are. I saw a lefty on X yesterday preening about how MAGA's gonna be even madder than when Democrats defeated the Confederacy.

Yes - people are historically stupid. Because they really will be pissed to learn that NorthEast Republicans insisting on tariffs against Southern Democrats led to the War of Northern Aggression.

They'll also be pissed to learn that all the early ports of call for arriving slaves were north of the Confederacy. And they'll really be stunned to compare and contrast slavery to indentured servitude.

But like I said, folks just love to reach back a few generations and claim glory and superiority over things they don't understand and never participated in.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (EatKz)

133 USNS Earl Campbell

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (2UnvF)

134 The timing of the Harvey Milk rename is as stupendous as the act itself. It is - if you will pardon the expression - a bit more than a "shot across the bow."

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One might even say a "money shot across the bow" in Harvey's case.

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (ZLe6e)

135 USS Pinochet
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Is there such a thing as helicopter carriers?

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (AU+PG)

136 Angels that can reproduce…

If so, it is part of their fallen nature that they can do so. As created by God, angels have no reproductive function.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (5BUO5)

137 111 109 USA TODAY@USATODAY
Boulder suspect’s daughter dreamed of studying medicine. Now she faces deportation.

-
Geez! You burn a few people alive and, all of a sudden, you're the bad guy!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (WJBLg)

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And America has the only medical schools on the planet, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:36 AM (cD1dp)

Practice medicine in bumfuckistan, selfish scrunt.

Your dad burned people alive including children, and the only thing you got is "what about me?"

That level of lack of self-awareness should be punishable by death.

Count yourself lucky you're only being deported.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (i24o9)

138 73 I watched Quigley Down Under last night. Did they hire the ugliest and most misshapen Aborigines in Australia, or are Aborigines the ugliest and most misshapen human beings in the world?

I give them props for casting actual natives, though. If Hollywood made the movie today, the Aborigines would all look like 30 year old Halle Berry.

they could at least check whether i was available

Posted by: deep roy at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (oY6Yp)

139 Kindltot
The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (u82oZ)

140 It is my opinion we should not name our military ships after pedophiles. I am rigid that way.
Posted by: Piper at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (p4NUW)
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I'm persuaded.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (DEQ0w)

141 119 Maybe they should name Navy oilers, which aren't technically warships, after great pioneers in the oil industry, you know the people who made the production of affordable oil possible.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

The SS Alberta Oil Peon has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: Oil's Well That Ends Well at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (G5+As)

142 136 Angels that can reproduce…

If so, it is part of their fallen nature that they can do so. As created by God, angels have no reproductive function.

maybe in angels it's more of a subroutine

Posted by: anachronda at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (oY6Yp)

143 137 Practice medicine in bumfuckistan, selfish scrunt.

Your dad burned people alive including children, and the only thing you got is "what about me?"

That level of lack of self-awareness should be punishable by death.

Count yourself lucky you're only being deported.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (i24o9)

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Chicks' been in federal custody since yesterday. I kind of doubt she has much contact with the outside world.

I suspect that this is a reporter going through social media and coming up with a sob story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (cD1dp)

144 If we just assign a number, Soviet style, this business of naming/renaming is moot.

Posted by: Soviet Navy Admiral - In Charge Of Ship Names at June 04, 2025 11:42 AM (Q4IgG)

145 A lot of Blacks were elected during Reconstruction for the very simple reason that the Whites were disenfranchised.

If they held official positions in the rebellion and refused to swear loyalty to the Union.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 04, 2025 11:42 AM (iX1qt)

146 Speaking of Oilers, will Florida sweep or win it in 5?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 04, 2025 11:42 AM (2UnvF)

147 they have college in Egypt

I hope that family is there already!!!

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (Pv3Rg)

148 I'm the son of a sea cook!

Posted by: SS Mortimer Brewster at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (G5+As)

149 The SS Alberta Oil Peon has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: Oil's Well That Ends Well at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (G5+As)

A dinghy? LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (4ia/r)

150 She's free to study medicine in her home country. Good luck!

She'll kill far fewer people that way.

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (AU+PG)

151 Oilers, in general, were dirty ships.

Given the apparent rust-bucketness of the current surface Navy, these days, that probably is not confined to them. Sad.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (0sNs1)

152 What’s all this about the Oilers? The Houston Oilers don’t even exist anymore!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (5BUO5)

153 128
‘’ Completely deny the holocaust and jettison the jews as part of your bloc.’
Jettison Jews, Jettison working class whites, jettison white people in general…

They may just jettison themselves into a much minority.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (jbnUc)

154 146 Speaking of Oilers, will Florida sweep or win it in 5?

whew

we shall see but I don't have a lot of hope for the oilers. maybe the panthers are banged up? it looks grim, especially if Bob stays hot

Posted by: Black Orchid at June 04, 2025 11:43 AM (Pv3Rg)

155 @55
I'm working on an online book: "100 Americans Who Should Be Famous (But Aren't)"

Robert Smalls is one.

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (Gqoy+)

156 It is my opinion we should not name our military ships after pedophiles. I am rigid that way.
Posted by: Piper at June 04, 2025 11:16 AM (p4NUW)
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I'm persuaded.
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I was almost persuaded.

Posted by: David Houston at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (TN0g+)

157 Chicks' been in federal custody since yesterday. I kind of doubt she has much contact with the outside world.

I suspect that this is a reporter going through social media and coming up with a sob story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (cD1dp)

How dare you blunt my righteous indignation!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (i24o9)

158 Overall the movie was meh.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 04, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

Quigley Down Under was just meh?

I guess its the same as guys looking at the same woman and most thinks she's beautiful but a few thinks she's just meh.

who was the poster who was serious when he always said Kate Upton was just meh when she was discussed?

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (VofaG)

159 Rename it the Oliver Sipple. Marine Vietnam combat vet, saved Gerald Ford's life by grabbing the gun when Sarah Jane Moore
tried to assassinate him. Quietly gay and a friend of Milk, who betrayed him because Milk decided that gays needed a hero to prove that they weren't all pedos. Outed Sipple to columnist Herb Caen and destroyed Sipples life. He died destitute and alone in his mid-40s.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (FoIOl)

160 Yes, I would have to agree that if a naval ship were to be named for a civilian, that person needs to be an actual national hero

someone of truly exceptional contributions to the US

the first man on the moon was a civilian, Neil Armstrong

does he have an aircraft carrier or battleship?

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (AOsQT)

161 This is probably true but nevertheless an unsettling analogy…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 04, 2025 11:35 AM (i5Vkf)

People remain people. There are also parallels with the Gracchi Bros (especially before the reelection), but right now, Marius and Sulla.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)

162 157 How dare you blunt my righteous indignation!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (i24o9)

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My suppositions are often wrong. I haven't even searched out the story.

Maybe it was an interview done by phone!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (cD1dp)

163
First oiler: USNS Harvey Milk

To be renamed USNS Puff Daddy, after the well known fan of baby oil.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (xG4kz)

164 Two sailors talking. My ship is named after a Marine who received the Medal of Honor. The second sailor replied, my ship is named after a guy that sucks cock.

Posted by: Ron at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (KDtr3)

165 My suppositions are often wrong. I haven't even searched out the story.

Maybe it was an interview done by phone!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (cD1dp)

Due to lack of interest, let's call it a draw.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (i24o9)

166 If they held official positions in the rebellion and refused to swear loyalty to the Union.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 04, 2025 11:42 AM (iX1qt)

Absolutely not how it worked in the slightest.

Even pro-Union congressmen from Tennessee - who risked treason from where they lived in the Confederacy - were not seated in the first congressional assembly after the end of the Civil War.

It was an occupation of victor against the vanquished. From soup to nuts.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (EatKz)

167 The idea generally is to demoralize normal, decent peaceable people. Rub yiur face in it. Whattaya gonna do about it? Ha ha! I can’t imagine the disgust at being assigned to a ship named after a degenerate kiddie fucker. Or being assigned to a new unit - and meeting your new platoon sergeant, who wears a fucking dress and demands to be called Brittney.

Our “leaders” are insane, and have a death wish.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (1meqy)

168 Is there such a thing as helicopter carriers?
Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM

Yes, e.g. the America-class and the Wasp-class.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (0sNs1)

169 Milk was a Navy man

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Of course he was. 😏

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 04, 2025 11:46 AM (g8Ew8)

170 Yes it does, Nancy. This "spiteful move" as you call it is absolutely about both national security and the 'warrior' ethos - in the battle against you and your kind.

This.

Psssttt...Hey Nancy. Stock Tip for that fellow you claim to be married to. Some company somewhere is going to get the contract to repaint all those names. Buy now!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 04, 2025 11:46 AM (W/lyH)

171 165
Due to lack of interest, let's call it a draw.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 11:45 AM (i24o9)

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Pistols at...who cares.

Let's just get a beer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:46 AM (cD1dp)

172 The renaming of Army Street to Cesar Chavez Blvd always got me.
Posted by: t-bird

I remember when that happened. The reporter had some 11 year old being interviewed who claimed that seeing his name on a street sign would inspire him and his friends to go to the library to learn about him.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 04, 2025 11:46 AM (+4yJ5)

173 who was the poster who was serious when he always said Kate Upton was just meh when she was discussed?
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:44 AM (VofaG)

Maybe Burt? I know who you are talking about though 'She's just fat.'

Which always seemed odd to me. It is not just that Miss Upton is stacked, her smile is also gorgeous. There are many kinds of attractive.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:47 AM (bss/y)

174 That's a good thing because symbols do and matter and halting the destruction of our symbols and imposing the destruction of theirs is long overdue.

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"Not so fast, Patriot!"

-- SCOTUS '89 ruling in Texas v. Johnson that burning the American Flag is protected as symbolic speech under the First Amendment ("Yes Virginia, it is a suicide pact")

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 04, 2025 11:47 AM (ZLe6e)

175 The USS Frank Phillips.
Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (TN0g+)

Ship number, 66

Posted by: Beartooth at June 04, 2025 11:47 AM (dLmtu)

176 Let's just get a beer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 11:46 AM (cD1dp)

Ok, Hiawatha.

It is kind of funny, 'fuck' is the new 'I'm going to get a beer.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)

177 The USS Pinochet: famous for its free helicopter rides!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:48 AM (5BUO5)

178 USNS PETER BOOTYJUICE

You know that was going to be an oiler out dirt poker.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at June 04, 2025 11:48 AM (17s+e)

179 who was the poster who was serious when he always said Kate Upton was just meh when she was discussed?
----

I have an idea
remember Mikey? 'He won't eat it! He hates everything!'

we have some Mikeys

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:48 AM (AOsQT)

180 I mean far worse. They will take Trump investigating clearly illegal wrongdoing to further escalate political imprisonments, show trials, executions. They are working themselves up for it right now.

In my darker moments, I almost want that to happen.

Throw a useless, mouthy fuck like Gowdy in GITMO and maybe the damned GOP would finally wake up.

Oh, who am I kidding? Every last one of them would turn into Chaim Rumkowskis.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (Dg2sF)

181 The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (u82oZ)

So, Joan? I can't think of any others.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)

182 I remember when that happened. The reporter had some 11 year old being interviewed who claimed that seeing his name on a street sign would inspire him and his friends to go to the library to learn about him.

There are a number of squares around where I live named after military people...which you only know because of their rank included in the name.

They only way to find out anything about them is to do an internet search and you'll usually find they died in combat doing something heroic. But...going to the library to look them up? Yeah good luck with that.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (t0Rmr)

183 They'll also be pissed to learn that all the early ports of call for arriving slaves were north of the Confederacy. And they'll really be stunned to compare and contrast slavery to indentured servitude.

But like I said, folks just love to reach back a few generations and claim glory and superiority over things they don't understand and never participated in.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:40 AM (EatKz)

Importing slaves was banned in 1808 even before the British banned it though the British banned slavery itself at the same time.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (VofaG)

184 The note about the "Four Olds" always amuses me. China love to brag about how they have "4000 years of culture" when they have spent so much of the last 75 years destroying all of it.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (fgmuN)

185 Hey it is fun to critique beautiful women who would never give me a second glance in a million years!!!

Posted by: tubal at June 04, 2025 11:50 AM (PCK5/)

186 The USS Frank Phillips.
Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 11:39 AM (TN0g+)

Ship number, 66
Posted by: Beartooth at June 04, 2025 11:47 AM (dLmtu)

***

The USS Len Barry. Ship number 123.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 04, 2025 11:50 AM (W/lyH)

187 A dinghy? LOL.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

No, it's Weird Dave that has the little dinghy.

Posted by: Keeping Score at June 04, 2025 11:51 AM (G5+As)

188 Maybe Summer Glau?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:51 AM (D7oie)

189 But...going to the library to look them up? Yeah good luck with that.

Odds are good that the kid was BSing the reporter.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 04, 2025 11:51 AM (+4yJ5)

190 186
‘ The USS Len Barry. Ship number 123’

Easy as ABC.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 04, 2025 11:51 AM (jbnUc)

191 Or being assigned to a new unit - and meeting your new platoon sergeant, who wears a fucking dress and demands to be called Brittney.

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"Discipline is the soul of an army." -- George Washington, 1757

"High heels are the sole of an army." -- Beijing Biden, 2021

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (ZLe6e)

192 >> The second sailor replied, my ship is named after a guy that sucks cock.

The USS George H. W. Bush?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (l3YAf)

193 Kate Upton is full-figured, not your typical runway model who looks like a boy.

Kate also seems to be fun in real life. I loved her Boobs in Space video

Posted by: Ignoramus at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (Gqoy+)

194 The USNS Amazon could work out some distribution deals as well as bringing much needed supplies and fuel.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (5BUO5)

195 181 The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (u82oZ)

So, Joan? I can't think of any others.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)

There's Tam, Phoenix, and Song.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (uWKK8)

196 The renaming of Army Street to Cesar Chavez Blvd always got me.
Posted by: t-bird

Cesar Chavez Blvd and Martin Luther King Ave are always in the shittiest part of town. Another case of the Donks laughing at minorities behind their back.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (FoIOl)

197 "The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers."

Starfleet did the same thing with runabouts. Most of them got blowed up.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (662lG)

198 192 >> The second sailor replied, my ship is named after a guy that sucks cock.

The USS George H. W. Bush?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (l3YAf)

USS Average Joe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:53 AM (bss/y)

199 Maybe Summer Glau?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:51 AM (D7oie)

Im guilty of saying she looks like Greta Thunberg's prettier sister.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:53 AM (VofaG)

200 I remember when that happened. The reporter had some 11 year old being interviewed who claimed that seeing his name on a street sign would inspire him and his friends to go to the library to learn about him.

There are a number of squares around where I live named after military people...which you only know because of their rank included in the name.

They only way to find out anything about them is to do an internet search and you'll usually find they died in combat doing something heroic. But...going to the library to look them up? Yeah good luck with that.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (t0Rmr)
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The only reason a kid would go to the library to look someone up is if they have a book report due on Monday. Nowadays, they'd just use ChatGPT.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 04, 2025 11:53 AM (7fElN)

201 The most stolen street sign in NYC was "Joey Ramone Way" near the old CBGBs. They raised the sign to about 20' to help stop that.

Posted by: Gimme, Gimme, Shock Treatment! at June 04, 2025 11:53 AM (G5+As)

202 Michael Moore has written a new pledge of allegiance.

Michael Moore proposes changing the American Pledge of Allegiance, removes reference to "God."

"I pledge allegiance to the people of the United States of America. And to the democracy for which we all stand: One person, one vote, one nation, part of one world, everyone! A seat at the table! Everyone! A slice of the pie! With liberty and justice, equality, and kindness and the pursuit of happiness for all."

-
It's Jeffersonian. George Jeffersonian!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 04, 2025 11:53 AM (WJBLg)

203 Importing slaves was banned in 1808 even before the British banned it though the British banned slavery itself at the same time.

And I'll say it again - differently this time and maybe slower. Nobody here ever owned a slave. Nobody here has ever been a slave. So all the preening about "my party freed the slaves" or "my part of the world isn't dirtied by nasty old slavery" is complete bullshit.

The North and the South enjoyed slavery and indentured servitude both in large portions. Slaves and servants were imported and owned all across the country at one time or another. As well as Chinese and other Asians used to build railroads.

Nobody here has the moral high ground.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (EatKz)

204 197 "The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers."

Starfleet did the same thing with runabouts. Most of them got blowed up.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (662lG)

It was the ship version of the Redshirt.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (bss/y)

205 181 The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 04, 2025 11:41 AM (u82oZ)

So, Joan? I can't think of any others.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)

There's Tam, Phoenix, and Song.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2025 11:52 AM (uWKK

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Naming a ship after a phoenix would probably be a bad omen, seeing as a phoenix is born from fire.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (7fElN)

206 Nobody here has the moral high ground.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM

I do.

Posted by: toby928 at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (jc0TO)

207
I wish our warships had fearsome names like "American Vengeance." "Rolling Thunder." "You Done Fucked Up" "Nonstop Brutality."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

"Kinetic Solution"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (xG4kz)

208 was listening to a preacher recently who asserted that "fallen angels" depicted in some biblical passages were angels that gave into lust and reproduced with human females.
——-

Nephelim. That isn’t really in dispute, Many cultures around the world have similar tales. Related to “there were giants in the earth in those days”.

I’ve a downloaded book that has reams of newspaper accounts of very, very large skeletons being found in various places in the 19th century. There were some notable hoaxes over the years, but the sheer volume of reports seems to bear some credence.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 04, 2025 11:55 AM (7GeYi)

209 There are also by far bigger problems than building & naming U.S. Navy replenishment oilers. For example:

wavy dot com news: Naval Station Norfolk
Bittersweet homecoming for USS Harry S. Truman
by: Madison Pearman, Posted: Jun 2, 2025

The Hill, Almost all Navy shipbuilding is hopelessly behind schedule, by Steve Cohen, Opinion Contributor - 05/02/24
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And we'll be amused & keep dragging out building and training until - Surprise! - “Spider’s Web” has been adapted for the US.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 04, 2025 11:55 AM (NFX2v)

210 Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (EatKz)

Dick face i was just posting additional facts to your post.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:55 AM (VofaG)

211 who was the poster who was serious when he always said Kate Upton was just meh when she was discussed?
Posted by: polynikes

That was y5.

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:55 AM (pvvko)

212 "The US Navy tradition was to name fleet oilers after major rivers."

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I'm waiting

Posted by: Jerry in Capone's Vault at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (DIygw)

213 There's a Bateman Street near me. Some local keeps putting a Batman logo sticker over the "e".

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (uWKK8)

214 Embattled Putin now faced with million 'invading' antelopes munching through Russia's grain supply

Posted by: SMOD at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (RHGPo)

215 211 who was the poster who was serious when he always said Kate Upton was just meh when she was discussed?
Posted by: polynikes

That was y5.

y2 > y5

Posted by: plugh at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (oY6Yp)

216 As to the muzzie family being deported, notice the story said everything was great for the muzzies and then “the father was charged” not arrested not committed an atrocious crime. It was the Trump government that “charged” the poor terrorist muzzie that ruined the illegal girl’s life.

I cried when I read this.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (17s+e)

217 hat was y5.
Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 11:55 AM (pvvko)

Yes. You have a good memory.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (VofaG)

218 Maybe Summer Glau?
Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 11:51 AM (D7oie)

She was hot in the Arrow series.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 04, 2025 11:56 AM (g8Ew8)

219
Kate Upton salute to Peter Cottontail

https://youtu.be/be5qLPmoMyg

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 11:57 AM (AOsQT)

220 I wish our warships had fearsome names like "American Vengeance." "Rolling Thunder." "You Done Fucked Up" "Nonstop Brutality."

WH40k ship names like "Righteous Fury" and "Vengeful Spirit"

Posted by: Halfhand at June 04, 2025 11:57 AM (/S69R)

221 Dick face i was just posting additional facts to your post.
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 11:55 AM (VofaG)

You been hangin' out with that People Here asshole too much. Nothing good comes from associating with that fuckin' guy. He sucks.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2025 11:57 AM (VoAdT)

222 USNS FAFO.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at June 04, 2025 11:57 AM (5BUO5)

223 I wish our warships had fearsome names like "American Vengeance." "Rolling Thunder." "You Done Fucked Up" "Nonstop Brutality."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

"Kinetic Solution"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (xG4kz)
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"More Dakka" - More Dakka is the art of solving problems by unloading as many rounds of ammunition at them as possible. Example 1 - Quad minicannon from yesterday's Cafe thread.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 04, 2025 11:57 AM (7fElN)

224 Speaking of celebrities, whenever she's brought up, there are always certain aspects of Brie Larson that seem to get discussed.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2025 11:58 AM (0sNs1)

225 I used to dislike renaming streets, thought if they wanted to honor someone build a new street. But upon in retrospect the new names are usually befitting the neighborhood.
What's Roosevelt Avenue like in your town?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 04, 2025 11:58 AM (yQMZb)

226 Milk joined the United States Navy during the Korean War. He served aboard the submarine rescue ship USS Kittiwake (ASR-13) as a diving officer. Milk later transferred to Naval Station, San Diego to serve as a diving instructor.

Posted by: SMOD at June 04, 2025 11:58 AM (RHGPo)

227
Should rename it the USNS Wayne Gretsky. He was a great Oiler.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

USNS Leonhard Euler

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 04, 2025 12:00 PM (xG4kz)

228 Naming a ship after a phoenix would probably be a bad omen, seeing as a phoenix is born from fire.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 04, 2025 11:54 AM (7fElN)

Fun trivia about that (I only know it because I used to live in Phoenix, and it was talked about there)
There was a light cruiser built towards the end of WW2 named the USS Phoenix; they were naming light cruisers after State Capitols at the time. It survived WW2, and was eventually sold to the Argentinian Navy, where it became one of their largest ships. It was renamed the General Belgrano, and was sunk with almost all hands lost by a British submarine during the Falklands War.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 04, 2025 12:00 PM (uWKK8)

229 225 See Little Rock, AR.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2025 12:01 PM (gm9Sb)

230 223

More Dakka" - More Dakka is the art of solving problems by unloading as many rounds of ammunition at them as possible. Example 1 - Quad minicannon from yesterday's Cafe thread.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 04, 2025 11:57 AM (7fElN

Saw that…. a REALLY expensive toy…

Posted by: tubal at June 04, 2025 12:01 PM (PCK5/)

231 what about minesweepers

do we still have minesweepers?

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 12:01 PM (AOsQT)

232 Its more of a pie face. With a square head. Escher couldn't draw me.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 04, 2025 12:02 PM (EatKz)

233
Iain Banks' Culture series has interesting ship names.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 12:02 PM (D7oie)

234 Kate Upton salute to Peter Cottontail

https://youtu.be/be5qLPmoMyg
Posted by: Don Black

The classics never get old.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 04, 2025 12:02 PM (WJBLg)

235 Pelosi, of course, has more to say, too:
"Our military is the most powerful in the world -- but this spiteful move does not strengthen our national security or the 'warrior' ethos," she added.

Naming it after Harvey Milk in the first place was spiteful.

Posted by: Eromero at June 04, 2025 12:02 PM (jgmnb)

236 224 Speaking of celebrities, whenever she's brought up, there are always certain aspects of Brie Larson that seem to get discussed.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

I am a firm supporter of the women's movement, but Brie leaves me flat, especially when viewed from behind.

Posted by: Fix-a-Flat at June 04, 2025 12:02 PM (G5+As)

237 I ain't serving on a ship named USS Indianapolis.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)

238 Milk joined the United States Navy during the Korean War. He served aboard the submarine rescue ship USS Kittiwake (ASR-13) as a diving officer. Milk later transferred to Naval Station, San Diego to serve as a diving instructor.
Posted by: SMOD at June 04, 2025 11:58 AM (RHGPo)

But not a muff-diving instructor, amirite?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (4ia/r)

239 There was a light cruiser built towards the end of WW2 named the USS Phoenix; they were naming light cruisers after State Capitols at the time. I
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She was built in the mid-30s, one of the excellent Brooklyn-class light cruisers.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (6YdsJ)

240 202. Michael Moore has written a new pledge of allegiance.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

"I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE
TO THE PEOPLE
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE DEMOCRACY
FOR WHICH WE ALL STAND:
ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE,
ONE NATION, PART OF ONE WORLD,

EVERYONE! A SEAT AT THE TABLE!
EVERYONE! A SLICE OF THE PIE!

WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, EQUALITY AND KINDNESS,

AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS FOR ALL."

Oh that took great thought! And Comedian Jimmy Failla remarked about Michael Moore being willing to share pie. 🤣

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (NFX2v)

241 All U.S. Navy ships have sweepers.

In fact, if you pay attention, you can hear the mournful cry of "Sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms. Sweep down all passageway fore and aft ... " over the 1MC at least once a day.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (0sNs1)

242 USNS Leonhard Euler
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

But what rational number would you assign it?

Posted by: t-bird at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (NEvbT)

243 Leonhard Euler would be a good porn star name.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (l3YAf)

244 240 EVERYONE! A SEAT AT THE TABLE!
EVERYONE! A SLICE OF THE PIE!

WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE, EQUALITY AND KINDNESS,

AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS FOR ALL."

Oh that took great thought! And Comedian Jimmy Failla remarked about Michael Moore being willing to share pie. 🤣
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 04, 2025 12:03 PM (NFX2v)

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Everyone, huh?

Including people who hate the pie and want to burn it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 12:04 PM (cD1dp)

245 ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE....

One time.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2025 12:04 PM (VoAdT)

246 Scharnhorst und Gneisnau. Naval tag team.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2025 12:04 PM (gm9Sb)

247 Pelosi, of course, has more to say, too:
"Our military is the most powerful in the world -- but this spiteful move does not strengthen our national security or the 'warrior' ethos," she added.

-
Keel haul the bitch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at June 04, 2025 12:04 PM (WJBLg)

248 Saw that…. a REALLY expensive toy…
Posted by: tubal at June 04, 2025 12:01 PM (PCK5/)

Having one of those loaded with 12ga birdshot is going to be the first solution for mass drone attacks on airfields.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 04, 2025 12:04 PM (D7oie)

249 Harriet Tubman was a bad ass, so I am ok with that name. No connection to the Navy though.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at June 04, 2025 12:05 PM (NJHR8)

250 226 Milk joined the United States Navy during the Korean War. He served aboard the submarine rescue ship USS Kittiwake (ASR-13) as a diving officer. Milk later transferred to Naval Station, San Diego to serve as a diving instructor.
Posted by: SMOD

So, you're saying he learned to "go down" in the Navy?

Posted by: Barnacle Bill at June 04, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)

251 Anything that gets donks so worked up is by definition a good thing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at June 04, 2025 12:05 PM (17s+e)

252 Read about the USS Forester here the other night.
WWII, DDS, would do 44mph. Pretty damn fast for those times.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 04, 2025 12:05 PM (yQMZb)

253 ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE,
ONE NATION, PART OF ONE WORLD,

It's always projection with these mentally ill retards. 24/7

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (VofaG)

254 EVERYONE! A SLICE OF THE PIE!

Pretty sure if we have a shared pie you are going to find Michael Moore has eaten the whole thing overnight and put the empty pie plate back in the fridge.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (t0Rmr)

255 How 'bout a USNS Sergeant Reckless (named for a decorated warhorse who held official rank in the United States Military)?

wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_Reckless

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (C+z+B)

256 253 ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE,
ONE NATION, PART OF ONE WORLD,

It's always projection with these mentally ill retards. 24/7
Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (VofaG)

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Can we verify the one person, one vote thing, or is that racist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (cD1dp)

257 Kate Upton salute to Peter Cottontail

https://youtu.be/be5qLPmoMyg
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I'm not sure how I missed that previously. I'm not sure how anyone missed that previously.

Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (TN0g+)

258 There was talk at one time of putting Tubman on the twenty bill… then they considered the immediate nickname to follow… don’t be like Canadians…

Posted by: tubal at June 04, 2025 12:07 PM (PCK5/)

259 I nedz coffee

Posted by: Skip at June 04, 2025 12:07 PM (+qU29)

260 Her Majesty's naval ships had some cool names back in the day

Bellerophon
Repulse
Victory
Dreadnought
Leviathan

these were the named ships at Trafalgar

https://tinyurl.com/23b69jay

wiki

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 12:07 PM (AOsQT)

261 A) I don't want a slice of the pie if you're the one cuttin'.

B) Everyone gets their own pie. Bake it. Buy it. Eat it all, give half away. Whatever you wanna do. I don't live to take a piece of someone else's pie that you deigned to give me.

C) Shut your pie hole.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 04, 2025 12:07 PM (VoAdT)

262 Read about the USS Forester here the other night.
WWII, DDS, would do 44mph. Pretty damn fast for those times.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 04, 2025 12:05 PM (yQMZb)

But it would only travel in the fast lane and would not get over for other traffic.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 12:07 PM (i24o9)

263 Any time of day is a good time for pie.

Posted by: Fabienne at June 04, 2025 12:07 PM (0sNs1)

264 “Democracy” isn’t mentioned, not even once, in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, or the Bill of Rights.

There’s a reason for that. And we’re living it. Tub of Lard is an idiot

Posted by: Common Tater at June 04, 2025 12:08 PM (srX5Y)

265 I'm not sure how I missed that previously. I'm not sure how anyone missed that previously.
Posted by: Crusader at June 04, 2025 12:06 PM (TN0g+)

https://tinyurl.com/ycy9a7da

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 12:08 PM (bss/y)

266
226 Milk joined the United States Navy during the Korean War. He served aboard the submarine rescue ship USS Kittiwake (ASR-13) as a diving officer. Milk later transferred to Naval Station, San Diego to serve as a diving instructor.
Posted by: SMOD at June 04, 2025 11:58 AM

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His separation from the service came after he was discovered telling diving students that sodomy was an essential, secret part of the training.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 04, 2025 12:08 PM (QwK6F)

267 They ought to rename 'em all after Confederate generals. The nutbags on the left would spontaneously combust in unison.
Posted by: Polka will never die
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At the VA the other day, I was talking to a female administrator. a black lady as it happens. She is a Vet, so we chatted a bit. I asked her about her MOS, and where she trained. 'Gordon', she replied, and added, 'they've renamed it something or other'. Which makes a point. Those that were there (or Bragg, etc., etc.) will always think of it that way. They have a history with the place, and history cannot be altered by tearing things down.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 04, 2025 12:08 PM (XeU6L)

268 Mr Pieshare Moore somehow has a personal fortune of $30M. I guess he's just a little more equal then others.

Oh and amusingly he used to be worth $50M but then his ex took half...

Posted by: 18-1 at June 04, 2025 12:09 PM (t0Rmr)

269 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 12:09 PM (bss/y)

270 Democracy is Michael Moore and a table full of pies voting on what to have for dinner.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at June 04, 2025 12:09 PM (l3YAf)

271 We be all thinks that the next Aicraft carrier sholds be named after Presdent Obama to honer are furst Black Presdent.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from brattleboro, Vt at June 04, 2025 12:10 PM (MqCLA)

272 Look up Kate Upton doing the Cat Daddy dancre.

Posted by: polynikes at June 04, 2025 12:10 PM (VofaG)

273 269 Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 12:09 PM (bss/y)

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Well, sort of.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 04, 2025 12:10 PM (cD1dp)

274 Nood is the disappeared post from yesterday...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 12:10 PM (bss/y)

275 https://tinyurl.com/ycy9a7da

Posted by: Aetius451AD at June 04, 2025 12:08 PM (bss/y)

You, sir, are a great American.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 12:11 PM (i24o9)

276 HMS Phoebe was a 36-gun fifth rate of the Royal Navy. She had a career of almost twenty years and fought in the French Revolutionary Wars, the Napoleonic Wars and the War of 1812.

Posted by: Don Black at June 04, 2025 12:11 PM (AOsQT)

277 267 We Marines will always have Parris. Most of us.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 04, 2025 12:11 PM (gm9Sb)

278 Correction: it was Forrester class of ships not the name Forester,

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 04, 2025 12:11 PM (yQMZb)

279 Nood time warp.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 04, 2025 12:12 PM (i24o9)

280 And it wasn't Forester it was Forrest.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 04, 2025 12:12 PM (yQMZb)

281 I think Milk had some major character defects in addition to being a sexual pervert.

And he was a hardcore leftist, and pals with Jim Jones of evil fame.

Posted by: Beverly at June 04, 2025 12:13 PM (Epeb0)

282 Why don't they add a USS Andrew Gillum or USS Ed Buck while they're at it?

Posted by: Let's get degenerate! at June 04, 2025 12:31 PM (TbWk/)

283 Nood time warp.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Yesterday's thread reposted? Isn't than an Oold, it a Nood?

Posted by: mikeski at June 04, 2025 12:32 PM (nsh1D)

284 Now rename the USS William J. Clinton.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 04, 2025 01:06 PM (2Rbgs)

285 18 Rename one of them the USS Rush Limbaugh.
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Either a aircraft carrier or a communications vessel.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 04, 2025 01:13 PM (2Rbgs)

286 99 78 When was the name of the Department of War changed to the Department of Defense?
Posted by: Wenda

Right after the last war we "won".
Posted by: What's In a Name? at June 04, 2025 11:34 AM (G5+As)

1947. Oh, and that was right after the big war we WON.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 04, 2025 01:18 PM (2Rbgs)

287 I agree wholeheartedly with the decision to get rid of the name Harvey Milk (was there ever a gayer name than that). But I suggest they might consider keeping Harriet Tubman. She was quite the warrior.

Posted by: RebeccaH at June 04, 2025 02:18 PM (nnkjY)

288 They should rename the Navy ship to honor Corey Comperatore, the man killed at the Butler Trump Rally.

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