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Gun Thread: 1st June and June 1st Edition!
FUNdamentals Last week I posed the following question:
So fundamentals. I advocate focusing on one of four fundamentals, stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger pull/squeeze/press/manipulation every time you're at the range. Assuming you're not focusing on fundamentals, as I suspect many of you are not, it begs the question; precisely what are you focusing on? Anything? Anything at all? Please let us know in the comments.Given the resultant paucity of responses, I am left with no alternative but to assume "you people" are, for the most part, not focusing on anything at the range. So I will ask you again; what in the ever-loving hell is going through your mind when you're blazing away at the range, if you are not focusing on fundamentals each and every time you yank on the trigger?
Guns of the Horde This week our pal Ed L saves us from another week of Weasel's lame-o content!
The Heckler & Koch (H&K) CC9 micro compact 9mm pistol is a new (fall 2024) entry in the small, concealed carry 9mm pistol market. H&K is a late entrant for this crowded market, trailing well behind its competitors. H&K says the CC9 has been in development for nearly seven years because of H&K&'s rigorous testing requirements, which is why it's taken so long to get the CC9 to market. Is the CC9 worth the wait and the relatively high ($699MSRP) price H&K wants for it?
The CC9 comes in a soft case with two compartments. The first holds the pistol and a spare magazine. The second has space for more spare magazines, the "operators manual," spare backstrap, and a lock.A quick look at the CC9 shows that right out of the box, the CC9 has full ambidextrous controls (slide stop, magazine release). H&K fans might be disappointed with the use of button magazine releases vice the H&K standard paddle magazine release, but there's no doubt that button magazine releases are far more popular in the US market. The CC9 comes with a very short section of Picatinny rails on the front dust cover. The CC9 has a trigger safety and an internal firing pin safety to stop negligent discharges due to dropping a loaded pistol. Unlike most other micro-9 pistols in its class, the CC9 comes with adjustable backstraps. The CC9 ships with a "normal" size backstrap installed. If you have larger hands or long fingers, you're well-advised to replace them with the "large" size backstrap. It will significantly improve your grip on the CC9.
This CC9 shipped with one 10 round flush fit magazine and one 12 round extended magazine. The 10-round magazine improves concealment, but the 12-round magazine gives you just a little bit extra grip space for your pinky finger. This small change makes for a noticeable improvement in the shooting experience. The CC9 is still controllable using the ten-round magazine. But the 12-round magazines are a bit more shooter friendly. The front sight is a large tritium lit dot, while the rear sight is a blacked out square notch. The CC9 uses a large, easy to use takedown lever. The takedown lever has a magazine disconnector, making it impossible to move he takedown lever until the magazine is removed and the slide locked to rear. Rotate the lever and hit the slide release to remove the slide from the frame. There' no need to pull the trigger to disassemble the CC9 for cleaning.
The CC9 comes optics ready with the plate in front of the rear sights. Most of H&K's testing involved feeding the CC9 a wide range of 9mm ammunition types to ensure the CC9 can reliably feed most 9mm ammunition types. My testing used three different types of ammunition. Here are pictures of the groups I shot with each.124 grain Federal Syntech. The first target is a 10-yard target shot with both hands and a 12-round magazine. Second photo is a 7-yard target fired with the strong hand only using the 10-round magazine.
This target is for 124 grain +P ammo.
This target shows the results for 147 grain Federal HST at 10 yards. Thanks to its trigger, the CC9 is capable of good accuracy at 7 and 10 yards. Felt recoil is significant, but well within what should be expected for pistols within its class. The slide release was stiff to operate but does appear to have improved after firing the first 50 rounds. I experience no malfunctions with any of the ammo I fired so far. So, is the H&K CC9 worthy of making it to your short list as a potential purchase? If you're a lefty, have large hands, want something with H&K's reputation for reliability, or prefer a handgun that doesn't make you pull the trigger to disassemble it for cleaning, the CC9 might fit the bill for you.Very nicely done! Thank you, Ed L!!!
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So my son-in-law shows up with a couple of sticks and we set about creating fire and fine drink with which to enjoy them. All I can say is my daughter chose wisely as he gave me a box pressed Carrillo Encore Majestic. He told me later is as rated at 96 points in Cigar Aficionado in 2022. I believe it. The Majestic comes together with immaculately detailed flavor that ranges from oak and tea to a slight background of caramel. I also caught some orange-like hints. None of these are overpowering and there is little initial taste. The light is easy and the ash burns evenly. The product is a rich, almost dense smoke that is aromatic and pleasant. The Encore features all Nicaraguan tobacco that's been aged and married in tercios together for two years. (Tercios, or bundles of tobacco held together by royal palm leaves and rope. I didn't know this.) The result is something I've never smoked before and I discovered a balance and smoothness I seldom find in a cigar. The first third of the Encore was a simple introduction to the cigar and the tastes ebbed and flowed a bit. Nothing bad, just interesting. The second third began to mellow with some creaminess starting to develop that not only softened the profile, but add subtlety. It finishes the same way. Hard core cigar smokers might find the Encore too mild, although it is rated in the medium range. It is an easy cigar to smoke and I think it is worth the $10 or so cost. Smoke it to the last inch, and you will find yourself sorry it has ended.
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Bang
Posted by: Eromero at June 01, 2025 07:01 PM (LHPAg)
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Ha!
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:01 PM (1m82a)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)
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June 1st and I still have not shot a round since the first gun thread in May.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 07:01 PM (e5NfL)
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KA-BOOM!!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:02 PM (0XVad)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a fundamental paucity of greetings to our host Weasel!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 01, 2025 07:03 PM (v23vE)
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Eromero aced me out.
So Weasel, anything burning tonight?
Pondering which victim to pick out of the tupperdor and go burn it on the porch while absorbing gunz stuff here.
Diogenes, wow! Great review. Have to look up the details. I know that Carrillo stick was cigar of the year a few years back. Have never picked one up, but my regular brick & mortar always has them, so definitely in my near future.
So Weasel, anything burning tonight?
Pondering which victim to pick out of the tupperdor and go burn it on the porch while absorbing gunz stuff here.
Diogenes, wow! Great review. Have to look up the details. I know that Carrillo stick was cigar of the year a few years back. Have never picked one up, but my regular brick & mortar always has them, so definitely in my near future.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:04 PM (1m82a)
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Evening folks, no range report. Spent the past two weeks serving my civic duty and also trying to squeeze a couple hours of work in. :-)
Next weekend should be another matter, just hope the weather that is forecast-ed decides to rethink what it wants to do and do the right thing.
Next weekend should be another matter, just hope the weather that is forecast-ed decides to rethink what it wants to do and do the right thing.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:05 PM (0XVad)
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Good afternoon. Thanks again, Weasel, for the thread.
As for fundamentals, draw, press toward target, pull trigger, checking for any "diving into the shot" nonsense.
When on the rifle, make sure nothing is wobbly and I don't slowly let the rifle creep forward from shot to shot. Controlled breathing, squeeze off the shot and, hopefully, I've just put another round through the same hole.
As for fundamentals, draw, press toward target, pull trigger, checking for any "diving into the shot" nonsense.
When on the rifle, make sure nothing is wobbly and I don't slowly let the rifle creep forward from shot to shot. Controlled breathing, squeeze off the shot and, hopefully, I've just put another round through the same hole.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:05 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:06 PM (Nrq/C)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 01, 2025 07:06 PM (sAmhv)
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Now, for the range stuff. I did my final, I hope, ladder test and seem to have found the right powder and bullet seating depth.
Obviously, more range time will be needed to confirm the load.
Oh darn.
Obviously, more range time will be needed to confirm the load.
Oh darn.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:06 PM (tT6L1)
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a fundamental paucity of greetings to our host Weasel!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 01, 2025 07:03 PM (v23vE)
Lack of, scarce?
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 01, 2025 07:03 PM (v23vE)
Lack of, scarce?
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 07:07 PM (zZu0s)
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if you are not focusing on fundamentals each and every time you yank on the trigger?
One of the fundamentals I focus on is not yanking on the trigger.
Be smoov, baby. The range babes are impressed with a smoov release.
One of the fundamentals I focus on is not yanking on the trigger.
Be smoov, baby. The range babes are impressed with a smoov release.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 07:07 PM (0sNs1)
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Thank you to Ed L for the H&K CC9 review. I'm impressed that they could accommodate 12 rounds in that small of a package. Definitely goes on my list of small EDC candidates to try if the chance ever arises.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (v23vE)
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Great review, Ed L, but, for some reason, meh. Probably an excellent little firearm but, seems a bit generic in the plastic department.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (tT6L1)
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No reviews on box pressed cigars.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (NVNRw)
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Ah, I see by checking the homepage (note: it's now called "Casa Carrillo", no longer E.P. Carrillo) I see the Pledge got top Cigar Afficionado honors in 2020, the stick Diogenes reviewed had that spot in 2018. Ol' Ernesto seems to know what he's doing.
Anyway, have had neither, will correct that.
Anyway, have had neither, will correct that.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (1m82a)
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And to the range yesterday and focused on a new grip technique taught to me by a guy who should be a professional instructor. He’s awesome.
Anyway, he had me pressing my palms together and pulling my elbows in slightly to steady the pistol instead of squeezing with my hands and fingers. He had my thumbs up higher than I’m used to as well.
I shot well. And my hands and wrists were not jolted.
Anyway, he had me pressing my palms together and pulling my elbows in slightly to steady the pistol instead of squeezing with my hands and fingers. He had my thumbs up higher than I’m used to as well.
I shot well. And my hands and wrists were not jolted.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 01, 2025 07:09 PM (8TJgL)
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"yank on the trigger" is a friend of mine.
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (JsD5q)
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Ah, "Earth vs the Flying Saucers". Starring that absolute stiff, Hugh Marlowe.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (5YmYl)
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Nearly 200 rounds of 45ACP loaded, only 300 more to go. Then on to 30-06. Then 38spl lead plinking loads. Then 45 Colt. Then .380. Oh, and 9mikemike. The cans are empty, I've been a bad reloader for a while.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (1m82a)
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Controlled breathing, squeeze off the shot and, hopefully, I've just put another round through the same hole.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:05 PM (tT6L1)
Yup. And it's more difficult than one might think to control one's breathing. At least for me!
The wobbly shit though...no excuse not to have a stable rifle. And I say that as a person who has had many wobbly rifles in my past!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:05 PM (tT6L1)
Yup. And it's more difficult than one might think to control one's breathing. At least for me!
The wobbly shit though...no excuse not to have a stable rifle. And I say that as a person who has had many wobbly rifles in my past!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 07:11 PM (mWSu4)
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Ben Had, you mean here? I'm sure I've reviewed several box-pressed sticks here, over time.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:11 PM (1m82a)
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RMBS, ready for next weekend? Packing your wet weather gear?
RI Red, gonna bring up a canopy that I purchased last year and used down at the TXMoMe.
RI Red, gonna bring up a canopy that I purchased last year and used down at the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:12 PM (0XVad)
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Probably an excellent little firearm but, seems a bit generic in the plastic department.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (tT6L1)
Yeah...H&Ks are a bit bland looking, but they are robust. My H&K USP .40 has never had a failure in many thousands of rounds. It ain't pretty, but it goes bang all of the time!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (tT6L1)
Yeah...H&Ks are a bit bland looking, but they are robust. My H&K USP .40 has never had a failure in many thousands of rounds. It ain't pretty, but it goes bang all of the time!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 07:13 PM (mWSu4)
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So a woman vandalized AND shit a Tesla. Ammunition is expensive. I am just saying.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)
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The wobbly shit though...no excuse not to have a stable rifle. And I say that as a person who has had many wobbly rifles in my past!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 07:11 PM (mWSu4)
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Heh.
I remember one time, I was set up and the rear rest was rocking all over the place. I'm scratching my head at this then realized when the bench was made, they'd done a really poor job surfacing the concrete.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 07:11 PM (mWSu4)
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Heh.
I remember one time, I was set up and the rear rest was rocking all over the place. I'm scratching my head at this then realized when the bench was made, they'd done a really poor job surfacing the concrete.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:15 PM (tT6L1)
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When I go to the range, I try to channel gub Yoda (aka WBG).
Posted by: TRex at June 01, 2025 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Shot. Not shit. Although that was a thing too.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 07:15 PM (zZu0s)
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rhomboid, I just missed them. DBCOOPER sent some box pressed cigars one year and I never knew a cigar could have that much flavor. I know the press had nothing to do with the flavor but dang those were good.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2025 07:15 PM (NVNRw)
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Do you ten four?
Posted by: Dan Matthews at June 01, 2025 07:15 PM (63Dwl)
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26 It ain't pretty, but it goes bang all of the time!
Sounds like a very reliable firearm. In the long run I would assume that is what we are looking for.
Sounds like a very reliable firearm. In the long run I would assume that is what we are looking for.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:16 PM (0XVad)
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MIT has a certificate program that might appeal to the Horde:
https://is.gd/9Ep2Kf
The Pirate Certificate. You need to complete courses in Archery, Fencing, Pistol (Air Pistol or Rifle) and Sailing to get it. Letters of Marque are not included.
https://is.gd/9Ep2Kf
The Pirate Certificate. You need to complete courses in Archery, Fencing, Pistol (Air Pistol or Rifle) and Sailing to get it. Letters of Marque are not included.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
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Weasel,
Thanks for including the video about Ruger. I'll watch it later while enjoying a libation and pipe of Boswell's Northwoods blend. Should be interesting considering how many Rugers I have, mostly single action revolvers.
Thanks for including the video about Ruger. I'll watch it later while enjoying a libation and pipe of Boswell's Northwoods blend. Should be interesting considering how many Rugers I have, mostly single action revolvers.
Posted by: JTB at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (yTvNw)
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Ed L., how's the H&K trigger compared to a Sig P365?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (0sNs1)
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Yeah...H&Ks are a bit bland looking, but they are robust. My H&K USP .40 has never had a failure in many thousands of rounds. It ain't pretty, but it goes bang all of the time!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 07:13 PM (mWSu4)
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Yeah and the only reason you know that: Because you make regular trips to the range and shoot the firearm.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 07:13 PM (mWSu4)
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Yeah and the only reason you know that: Because you make regular trips to the range and shoot the firearm.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
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I have not touched the 9mm since I have had the revolver.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 01, 2025 07:19 PM (NVNRw)
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Hiya Ben Had! Hope you are well. I'm having one right now!
Posted by: DBCooper at June 01, 2025 07:24 PM (y1Mvi)
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35 Weasel,
Thanks for including the video about Ruger. I'll watch it later while enjoying a libation and pipe of Boswell's Northwoods blend. Should be interesting considering how many Rugers I have, mostly single action revolvers.
Posted by: JTB at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (yTvNw)
Ruger revolvers and rifles are the cat's pajamas.
Thanks for including the video about Ruger. I'll watch it later while enjoying a libation and pipe of Boswell's Northwoods blend. Should be interesting considering how many Rugers I have, mostly single action revolvers.
Posted by: JTB at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (yTvNw)
Ruger revolvers and rifles are the cat's pajamas.
Posted by: Eromero at June 01, 2025 07:25 PM (LHPAg)
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The cans are empty, I've been a bad reloader for a while.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (1m82a)
Loaded up 100 rounds of .45 Colt and 100 rounds of .38 Special this week. Got another 100 .357 magnum cases delivered but haven't had time to load them yet. Going to the farm tomorrow and hope to use a good chunk of what I loaded up. Note to self: time to order more powder and various flavors of boolits.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (1m82a)
Loaded up 100 rounds of .45 Colt and 100 rounds of .38 Special this week. Got another 100 .357 magnum cases delivered but haven't had time to load them yet. Going to the farm tomorrow and hope to use a good chunk of what I loaded up. Note to self: time to order more powder and various flavors of boolits.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 01, 2025 07:26 PM (Hdixl)
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During the ammo shortage of 5 years ago 9mm was the most available round, and because I like the simplicity of a revolver, I'm thinking of getting one of these...
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Opinions?
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Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 01, 2025 07:28 PM (mH6SG)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Posted by: blaster at June 01, 2025 07:28 PM (Bh+dU)
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"Earth Vs the Flying Saucers"! Where the real star is Ray Harryhausen.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 01, 2025 07:28 PM (CHHv1)
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Breaking. Molotov cocktail terror attack on march in support of Israeli hostages in the People's Republic of Boulder today. There are casualties but no details. FBI calls it a terror attack but the Boulder Police Chief refuses. We'll probably never know the real motive.
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at June 01, 2025 07:29 PM (L/fGl)
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42 During the ammo shortage of 5 years ago 9mm was the most available round, and because I like the simplicity of a revolver, I'm thinking of getting one of these...
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
Don't hesitate.
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Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
Don't hesitate.
Posted by: Eromero at June 01, 2025 07:29 PM (LHPAg)
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RMBS, ready for next weekend? Packing your wet weather gear?
RI Red, gonna bring up a canopy that I purchased last year and used down at the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:12 PM
Ready and looking forward to it! Weather looks a bit squirrely, but my rifle's cleaned and prepped, and ammunition has been obtained. I'll see you guys Thursday!
RI Red, gonna bring up a canopy that I purchased last year and used down at the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:12 PM
Ready and looking forward to it! Weather looks a bit squirrely, but my rifle's cleaned and prepped, and ammunition has been obtained. I'll see you guys Thursday!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:31 PM (Wnv9h)
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Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
For single action fans, Uberti makes several SAA clones in 9mm
For single action fans, Uberti makes several SAA clones in 9mm
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at June 01, 2025 07:32 PM (Hdixl)
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"EvTFS" has my favorite 50's vehicles, along with the war machines from "War of the Worlds."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 01, 2025 07:32 PM (CHHv1)
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"Earth Vs the Flying Saucers"! Where the real star is Ray Harryhausen.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
And Paul Frees.
"Earth Vs the Flying Saucers"! Where the real star is Ray Harryhausen.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
And Paul Frees.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 01, 2025 07:33 PM (63Dwl)
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what in the ever-loving hell is going through your mind when you're blazing away at the range, if you are not focusing on fundamentals each and every time you yank on the trigger?
Lately, I find myself refocusing on natural point of aim. I've noticed I get a little lax about that shooting from a bench.
Lately, I find myself refocusing on natural point of aim. I've noticed I get a little lax about that shooting from a bench.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:34 PM (Wnv9h)
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I'm thinking of getting one of these...
At one time, I owned a Ruger SP101, .327 Fed. Mag. Great little wheelgun. Wish I had of hung on to it.
At one time, I owned a Ruger SP101, .327 Fed. Mag. Great little wheelgun. Wish I had of hung on to it.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 01, 2025 07:35 PM (mH6SG)
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What if you misplace your moon clips?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 01, 2025 07:38 PM (63Dwl)
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I'll just throw this out there.
Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
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We got to the range with full contingent DMV MGC today.
Good shooting. Good people.
Took Sra blasters Kimber CDS9 out for its maiden voyage. Some teething issues it needs lube. Slide won't go all the way back in battery sometimes. Oddly like swa's Kimber Aegis.
Also stupid green coated ammo is still stupid. Two rounds got stuck in the chamber at different times.
Had some issues with zeroing the dot. It came with iron sights and probably should have shot it that way first but put the dot on. I have not had one be as far off from the boresight laser as this. Not sure why. We got it dialed in fairly well but not enough loctite it came loose and lost zero.
BUT - shoots very nice! Even with the dot off target the groups were quite tight. The all metal gun absorbed recoil better and did not tire Sra blasters wrist which was the desired outcome.
Needs to go back with bench rest to zero but it seems like a good addition to the laager.
Good shooting. Good people.
Took Sra blasters Kimber CDS9 out for its maiden voyage. Some teething issues it needs lube. Slide won't go all the way back in battery sometimes. Oddly like swa's Kimber Aegis.
Also stupid green coated ammo is still stupid. Two rounds got stuck in the chamber at different times.
Had some issues with zeroing the dot. It came with iron sights and probably should have shot it that way first but put the dot on. I have not had one be as far off from the boresight laser as this. Not sure why. We got it dialed in fairly well but not enough loctite it came loose and lost zero.
BUT - shoots very nice! Even with the dot off target the groups were quite tight. The all metal gun absorbed recoil better and did not tire Sra blasters wrist which was the desired outcome.
Needs to go back with bench rest to zero but it seems like a good addition to the laager.
Posted by: blaster at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Bh+dU)
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Actually Ben Had according to cigar experts box-pressing can/does alter the flavor experience. Don’t axe me to explain - though clearly it’s how the burn proceeds, ratio of wrapper to filler (higher in box-pressed), etc.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:41 PM (0/ySy)
58
54 What if you misplace your moon clips?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 01, 2025 07:38 PM (63Dwl)
My Ruger .9mm uses no moonclips.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 01, 2025 07:38 PM (63Dwl)
My Ruger .9mm uses no moonclips.
Posted by: Eromero at June 01, 2025 07:42 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 01, 2025 07:42 PM (0XVad)
60
Back.
Why is Tarzan doing a cross draw?
Doesn’t he know that the knife blade will cover various important parts of his body?
At least important to Jane.
Why is Tarzan doing a cross draw?
Doesn’t he know that the knife blade will cover various important parts of his body?
At least important to Jane.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:42 PM (Nrq/C)
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During the ammo shortage of 5 years ago 9mm was the most available round, and because I like the simplicity of a revolver, I'm thinking of getting one of these...
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM
I have one in .357 magnum, you do not want to shoot .357 magnums from that gun trust me.
I have not shot the 9mm version but it should be a peach. That gun is heavy and the standard 9mm round should be a breeze to shoot in it.
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM
I have one in .357 magnum, you do not want to shoot .357 magnums from that gun trust me.
I have not shot the 9mm version but it should be a peach. That gun is heavy and the standard 9mm round should be a breeze to shoot in it.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 07:42 PM (e5NfL)
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@Duncanthrax I shot Ed Ls CC9 back to back with my 365 XL which is a flat trigger gun, and shot it a few weeks back against a 365. I would say that it is better overall to include trigger over the regular 365 and on par with the XL. YMMV.
Posted by: blaster at June 01, 2025 07:43 PM (Bh+dU)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)
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Guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:45 PM (xcxpd)
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42 ... "During the ammo shortage of 5 years ago 9mm was the most available round, and because I like the simplicity of a revolver, I'm thinking of getting one of these...
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?"
I have the SP101 DA only version in 357 although I only use 38 specials in it. It's a bit heavier than many other snubby revolvers but that helps with recoil and control. Unless you are looking for the least weight, go for it.
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?"
I have the SP101 DA only version in 357 although I only use 38 specials in it. It's a bit heavier than many other snubby revolvers but that helps with recoil and control. Unless you are looking for the least weight, go for it.
Posted by: JTB at June 01, 2025 07:45 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at June 01, 2025 07:45 PM (L/fGl)
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Settled on a Rocky Patel Decade (box-pressed BTW) that came in an “intro” sampler from Cigar Page, where I have been a regular customer for years (clicked thru an ad at Cigar Afficionado assuming I wouldn’t be eligible). $1.75, nice 80% discount over regular price.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:46 PM (0/ySy)
68
Always yield to temptation, you might not get a second chance.
I was doing my daily browsing of the Bud's Gun Shop website, when a Tisas 1911 caught my eye. Now, Tisas pumps out Turkish 1911 clones in an amazing number of variations, but this one had a checkered front strap.
Why manufacturers continue to make modern 1911s with a smooth front on the grip puzzles me, as nowadays it would just need one more stop at a CNC station to fix the problem, but they do. I Believe I have singlehandedly kept the Pachmayr company in business, buying their rubber wrap around 1911 grips, to fix the issue.
This model had a "sale" price shown. Quickly checking my other favorite online retailers I found it was out of stock elsewhere. I am awash in 1911s, and have no earthly need for another one, let alone a full size, steel frame, 45 ACP model. So of course I bought it.
Finishing the order, I went back to the website to check on something, and found I had gotten the last one in stock. Bawahahaha!
I was doing my daily browsing of the Bud's Gun Shop website, when a Tisas 1911 caught my eye. Now, Tisas pumps out Turkish 1911 clones in an amazing number of variations, but this one had a checkered front strap.
Why manufacturers continue to make modern 1911s with a smooth front on the grip puzzles me, as nowadays it would just need one more stop at a CNC station to fix the problem, but they do. I Believe I have singlehandedly kept the Pachmayr company in business, buying their rubber wrap around 1911 grips, to fix the issue.
This model had a "sale" price shown. Quickly checking my other favorite online retailers I found it was out of stock elsewhere. I am awash in 1911s, and have no earthly need for another one, let alone a full size, steel frame, 45 ACP model. So of course I bought it.
Finishing the order, I went back to the website to check on something, and found I had gotten the last one in stock. Bawahahaha!
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 07:46 PM (GM4rl)
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I'll just throw this out there.
Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
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308, 309, whatever it takes
Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
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308, 309, whatever it takes
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 01, 2025 07:46 PM (tAvsu)
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Thanks for reminding me...I need to get a cigar for the range Friday.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:47 PM (Wnv9h)
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So, quick drop in before dogs monopolize my night.
I've been getting light primer strikes with my 'new' (not new at all, unknown round count) G26 upper and my G30, which WAS my EDC but has now been demoted.
I did a detailed clean, paying close attention to the striker channel. After the clean, the G26 run 100 rounds with no light primers. The G30...no, had 3 light primer strikes in 20 rounds of Fiocci 230 gr FMJ.
Not amused.
I have a new striker spring ordered, so going to replace that and see if it fixes the issue. I hope so. The G30 is easier to carry than the G21 and is almost more accurate, if that's possible.
I've been getting light primer strikes with my 'new' (not new at all, unknown round count) G26 upper and my G30, which WAS my EDC but has now been demoted.
I did a detailed clean, paying close attention to the striker channel. After the clean, the G26 run 100 rounds with no light primers. The G30...no, had 3 light primer strikes in 20 rounds of Fiocci 230 gr FMJ.
Not amused.
I have a new striker spring ordered, so going to replace that and see if it fixes the issue. I hope so. The G30 is easier to carry than the G21 and is almost more accurate, if that's possible.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:47 PM (xcxpd)
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308, 309, whatever it takes
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 01, 2025 07:46 PM
I love this place.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 01, 2025 07:46 PM
I love this place.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:47 PM (Wnv9h)
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I'm looking for a light carry, maybe five-six rounds. Something no-one will notice. Any suggestions?
Posted by: 85 Bears at June 01, 2025 07:48 PM (r2ymA)
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Photo of Molotov Cocktail terrorist in Boulder. Remarkably cracker looking.
https://is.gd/S5QMpE
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at June 01, 2025 07:45 PM (L/fGl)
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Gotta live the sign saying “this is a smoke free zone’ at a location that’s just been fire-bombed. At least nobody was smoking, that second-hand smoke is dangerous.
https://is.gd/S5QMpE
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at June 01, 2025 07:45 PM (L/fGl)
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Gotta live the sign saying “this is a smoke free zone’ at a location that’s just been fire-bombed. At least nobody was smoking, that second-hand smoke is dangerous.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 01, 2025 07:49 PM (tAvsu)
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PDT's helicopter just flew over.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 07:50 PM (jUN6x)
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Weasel did you wave?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 01, 2025 07:50 PM (0/ySy)
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The HK CC9 is basically a Taurus G3c only $300 more.
I'm seriously not seeing any differences of note, that includes accuracy and reliability. (The G3chas been zero malf for the first 500 rounds for me)
I'm seriously not seeing any differences of note, that includes accuracy and reliability. (The G3chas been zero malf for the first 500 rounds for me)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (xcxpd)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (BCwQW)
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Thanks for reminding me...I need to get a cigar for the range Friday.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:47 PM (Wnv9h)
Yes, the black flies are still out and abundant.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:47 PM (Wnv9h)
Yes, the black flies are still out and abundant.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (Nrq/C)
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (KoK5d)
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And furthermore....I'm not sure stance matters.
If anything, just having your feet solidly under you and drawing and firing seems to be more important than any 'stance'.
Exceptions granted for those who's EDC includes .45 ACP, .357 Mag or .44 mag. Bracing against the recoil does matter there.
If anything, just having your feet solidly under you and drawing and firing seems to be more important than any 'stance'.
Exceptions granted for those who's EDC includes .45 ACP, .357 Mag or .44 mag. Bracing against the recoil does matter there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:52 PM (xcxpd)
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Sign for the NoVaMoMe? TxMoMeX? MiniGunMoMes?
What happens herestays here gets talked about all week.
What happens here
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:53 PM (VNX3d)
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Thanks for the opinions. I've actually already made up my mind to get one, but I figured this was the place to ask and make sure there was no major negative aspect of the gun.
It's also so good looking.
It's also so good looking.
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:53 PM (i0F8b)
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73 I'm looking for a light carry, maybe five-six rounds. Something no-one will notice. Any suggestions?
Posted by: 85 Bears at June 01, 2025 07:48 PM (r2ymA)
Look at Kel Tec. Seriously.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: 85 Bears at June 01, 2025 07:48 PM (r2ymA)
Look at Kel Tec. Seriously.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM (xcxpd)
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82 Sign for the NoVaMoMe? TxMoMeX? MiniGunMoMes?
What happens here stays here gets talked about all week.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:53 PM (VNX3d)
There are serious bragging rights involved at the NH MiniMoMe. Trash-talk is mandatory.
What happens here stays here gets talked about all week.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:53 PM (VNX3d)
There are serious bragging rights involved at the NH MiniMoMe. Trash-talk is mandatory.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:55 PM (Nrq/C)
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I'll just throw this out there.
Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
Past 500 yards, you want 6.5. If money is tight, look at Savage
Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
Past 500 yards, you want 6.5. If money is tight, look at Savage
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:55 PM (xcxpd)
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@Duncanthrax I shot Ed Ls CC9 back to back with my 365 XL which is a flat trigger gun, and shot it a few weeks back against a 365. I would say that it is better overall to include trigger over the regular 365 and on par with the XL. YMMV.
Posted by: blaster at June 01, 2025 07:43 PM
Good to know, thanks! I would have expected it to be slightly better, but not hugely. I concur that the 365 flat triggers feel a little better than the curved. It's not that hard to swap in a flat trigger, if you're so inclined.
Posted by: blaster at June 01, 2025 07:43 PM
Good to know, thanks! I would have expected it to be slightly better, but not hugely. I concur that the 365 flat triggers feel a little better than the curved. It's not that hard to swap in a flat trigger, if you're so inclined.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 07:56 PM (0sNs1)
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RMBS, Hands down, the 6.5 Creedmoor is the better round for long range shooting. At least out to 1,000 yards.
308 just isn't as efficient at those distances. Also, recoil from the 6.5 is much easier to handle versus 308.
308 just isn't as efficient at those distances. Also, recoil from the 6.5 is much easier to handle versus 308.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:56 PM (tT6L1)
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RedMind, I've had way more fun with a 6.5 Creedmoor than I ever had with a bolt .308. There is, however a new caliber Creedmoor now that is supposed to be even more fun. I love to spot and a .308 is like watching a school bus go thru the sky.
Creedmoors are more sporty to spot. The .308 boys were sucking air @ 1300 yds at the Gunsite advanced precision rifle course and my partner and I with 6.5's went on and played past 1500. I have a simple Savage 110BA LH with a Vortex Razor MRAD and am on my second barrel.
Creedmoors are more sporty to spot. The .308 boys were sucking air @ 1300 yds at the Gunsite advanced precision rifle course and my partner and I with 6.5's went on and played past 1500. I have a simple Savage 110BA LH with a Vortex Razor MRAD and am on my second barrel.
Posted by: DBCooper at June 01, 2025 07:56 PM (y1Mvi)
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What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
The 6.5 kicks less, shoots flatter, and is much friendlier for punching holes in paper during sunny days on the range.
OTHO, During the Burning Times, you will be able to delink 7.62 machine gun ammo to keep your .308 shooting.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
The 6.5 kicks less, shoots flatter, and is much friendlier for punching holes in paper during sunny days on the range.
OTHO, During the Burning Times, you will be able to delink 7.62 machine gun ammo to keep your .308 shooting.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 07:57 PM (GM4rl)
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Look at Kel Tec. Seriously.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM (xcxpd)
MAE. You forgot the Ruger LCP in .380. Which is a better-built ripoff of the P3AT.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM (xcxpd)
MAE. You forgot the Ruger LCP in .380. Which is a better-built ripoff of the P3AT.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:58 PM (Nrq/C)
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Very nice picture of the sights on that H&K, Ed! Putting all the focus on the front sight!
And a nice review. You've been reading the NRA stuff again, haven't you?
And a nice review. You've been reading the NRA stuff again, haven't you?
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 07:59 PM (KoK5d)
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 07:59 PM (MvZ7K)
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I'm looking for a light carry, maybe five-six rounds. Something no-one will notice. Any suggestions?
Posted by: 85 Bears at June 01, 2025 07:48 PM (r2ymA)
Look at Kel Tec. Seriously.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM
I'd add the Ruger LCP II to the list. I add a Hogue overgrip to it; it increases the thickness a bit, but makes it much more shootable. You will (or should) have it in a holster for pocket carry, and that makes any additional thickness moot.
Posted by: 85 Bears at June 01, 2025 07:48 PM (r2ymA)
Look at Kel Tec. Seriously.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM
I'd add the Ruger LCP II to the list. I add a Hogue overgrip to it; it increases the thickness a bit, but makes it much more shootable. You will (or should) have it in a holster for pocket carry, and that makes any additional thickness moot.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 07:59 PM (0sNs1)
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42 During the ammo shortage of 5 years ago 9mm was the most available round, and because I like the simplicity of a revolver, I'm thinking of getting one of these...
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
Would.
Gun is miserable, just miserable, in .357. 9mm should be fine. Ruger revolvers run forever, so should be very durable.
https://tinyurl.com/5xwd5a3h
Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
Would.
Gun is miserable, just miserable, in .357. 9mm should be fine. Ruger revolvers run forever, so should be very durable.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:59 PM (xcxpd)
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MAE. You forgot the Ruger LCP in .380. Which is a better-built ripoff of the P3AT.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:58 PM (Nrq/C)
This is also true, both statements.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:58 PM (Nrq/C)
This is also true, both statements.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 08:00 PM (xcxpd)
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What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
The 6.5 kicks less, shoots flatter, and is much friendlier for punching holes in paper during sunny days on the range.
OTHO, During the Burning Times, you will be able to delink 7.62 machine gun ammo to keep your .308 shooting.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 07:57 PM
The guy that won the NRA long range high power match five times in a row used a .243. Just sayin.....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
The 6.5 kicks less, shoots flatter, and is much friendlier for punching holes in paper during sunny days on the range.
OTHO, During the Burning Times, you will be able to delink 7.62 machine gun ammo to keep your .308 shooting.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 07:57 PM
The guy that won the NRA long range high power match five times in a row used a .243. Just sayin.....
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:00 PM (e5NfL)
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The Ruger LCP Max bumps capacity to 10 rounds, but there were reports of teething problems when they came out. I haven't had an ear to the ground to know if they've been resolved.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:01 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 08:01 PM (xcxpd)
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Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (KoK5d)
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I'm a little behind on email. You might want to re-send
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I'm a little behind on email. You might want to re-send
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 08:02 PM (jH5TK)
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.308 is easier to find, and generally cheaper than 6.5 CM, if that matters. If you handload, it probably doesn't.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:03 PM (0sNs1)
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DavidT, Jr. has two 101s, one with a 4”, one with a 6” bbl. Both are a delight to shoot in .357 Mag. Of course, 38 Spl is even easier.
A bit hard to conceal.
But for open carry Burning Times, go for it.
A bit hard to conceal.
But for open carry Burning Times, go for it.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:03 PM (Nrq/C)
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I don't slowly let the rifle creep forward from shot to shot.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:05 PM (tT6L1)
Blake, can you explain that? I don't think I've heard that idea before. (Maybe it was expressed some other way.)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:05 PM (tT6L1)
Blake, can you explain that? I don't think I've heard that idea before. (Maybe it was expressed some other way.)
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM (KoK5d)
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What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Unless you're already committed to .308 for compatibility, go with the Creed.
Unless you're already committed to .308 for compatibility, go with the Creed.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM (mHc9/)
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Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (v23vE)
For such a small handgun, the ergonomics make shooting with defense ammo or +P rounds tolerable. The DMV MGC all tried a few rounds of +P and the 147 grain HST and still got groups similar to mine.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (tT6L1)
One thing the CC9 will flunk every time is looks. It's made to be a small, light carry handgun. That dictates a lot of choices. It will never be everyone's cup of tea.
For such a small handgun, the ergonomics make shooting with defense ammo or +P rounds tolerable. The DMV MGC all tried a few rounds of +P and the 147 grain HST and still got groups similar to mine.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 07:08 PM (tT6L1)
One thing the CC9 will flunk every time is looks. It's made to be a small, light carry handgun. That dictates a lot of choices. It will never be everyone's cup of tea.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM (BCwQW)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM (qpyNK)
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Yes, the black flies are still out and abundant.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM
I'll have my bug spray and my smoke generator.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM
I'll have my bug spray and my smoke generator.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:05 PM (Wnv9h)
108
Why is Tarzan riding Indian elephants, instead of African loxodonts?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:05 PM (0sNs1)
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"yank on the trigger" is a friend of mine.
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (JsD5q)
It sort of goes with the first joke on last night's ONT.
Posted by: The Fourth Shot at June 01, 2025 07:10 PM (JsD5q)
It sort of goes with the first joke on last night's ONT.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:06 PM (KoK5d)
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RMBS, you already know what I’m going to recommend.
Especially since you already have a fine .308.
I’ll bring extra 6.5 ammo on Friday.
I have a new “+P” that’s shooting well.
Especially since you already have a fine .308.
I’ll bring extra 6.5 ammo on Friday.
I have a new “+P” that’s shooting well.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:06 PM (Nrq/C)
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And a nice review. You've been reading the NRA stuff again, haven't you?
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 07:59 PM (KoK5d)
I haven't looked at an NRA publication for quite a while. I've copied formats I've seen here and elsewhere on the web.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 07:59 PM (KoK5d)
I haven't looked at an NRA publication for quite a while. I've copied formats I've seen here and elsewhere on the web.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 08:07 PM (BCwQW)
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Weasel, you still on track to join the Honorable Legion of Retired Morons?
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:08 PM (Nrq/C)
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The Pirate Certificate. You need to complete courses in Archery, Fencing, Pistol (Air Pistol or Rifle) and Sailing to get it. Letters of Marque are not included.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
I NEED that on my resume!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
I NEED that on my resume!
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (KoK5d)
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Blake, can you explain that? I don't think I've heard that idea before. (Maybe it was expressed some other way.)
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM (KoK5d)
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There are a couple of things at work here. I shoot 30.06 and I'm still using a bipod. Due to recoil from the 06 cartridge, when I get the rifle back in line for the next shot, I've noticed I have a tendency to lean into the rifle a bit more, which move things forward a bit. If I'm not paying attention from shot to shot, things creep forward, which is no bueno @ 1000 yards.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM (KoK5d)
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There are a couple of things at work here. I shoot 30.06 and I'm still using a bipod. Due to recoil from the 06 cartridge, when I get the rifle back in line for the next shot, I've noticed I have a tendency to lean into the rifle a bit more, which move things forward a bit. If I'm not paying attention from shot to shot, things creep forward, which is no bueno @ 1000 yards.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (tT6L1)
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Unless you're already committed to .308 for compatibility, go with the Creed.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM
I have a .308 (purty wood-stocked Winchester Model 70 Target), and I've been leaning towards expanding the stable a bit. I've heard great things about the Creed. I'm considering a Savage. I don't shoot long range enough to make an expensive build worth it.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 01, 2025 08:04 PM
I have a .308 (purty wood-stocked Winchester Model 70 Target), and I've been leaning towards expanding the stable a bit. I've heard great things about the Creed. I'm considering a Savage. I don't shoot long range enough to make an expensive build worth it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (Wnv9h)
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The Pirate Certificate.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
I NEED that on my resume!
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (KoK5d)
The MIT Pirate Certificate is only made available to MIT students
Well, dang. /crying/
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
I NEED that on my resume!
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (KoK5d)
The MIT Pirate Certificate is only made available to MIT students
Well, dang. /crying/
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:11 PM (KoK5d)
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Look at Kel Tec. Seriously.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM (xcxpd)
PF9 was first carry gun. It does fulfill the spec. And it will shoot.
But it is not pleasant to shoot. It is very snappy. But it is that gun that is better than the one you are not carrying.
PF 9 for 9mm
P3At for .380
P32 for .32 ACP.
Tiny guns, disappear in jeans pockets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:54 PM (xcxpd)
PF9 was first carry gun. It does fulfill the spec. And it will shoot.
But it is not pleasant to shoot. It is very snappy. But it is that gun that is better than the one you are not carrying.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:11 PM (QfvaV)
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I have a .308 (purty wood-stocked Winchester Model 70 Target), and I've been leaning towards expanding the stable a bit. I've heard great things about the Creed. I'm considering a Savage. I don't shoot long range enough to make an expensive build worth it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (Wnv9h)
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The Savage Axis II Precision should get the job done. Won't break the bank either. Shouldn't be more than about $900. Granted, scope and bipod will set you back, but, it will get the job done quite well.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (Wnv9h)
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The Savage Axis II Precision should get the job done. Won't break the bank either. Shouldn't be more than about $900. Granted, scope and bipod will set you back, but, it will get the job done quite well.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:12 PM (tT6L1)
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The HK CC9 is basically a Taurus G3c only $300 more.
I'm seriously not seeing any differences of note, that includes accuracy and reliability. (The G3c has been zero malf for the first 500 rounds for me)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (xcxpd)
That's a fair criticism. Is H&K's QC process worth the extra $$? That's up to the individual deciding whether to plunk down their $$ or not.
I'm seriously not seeing any differences of note, that includes accuracy and reliability. (The G3c has been zero malf for the first 500 rounds for me)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at June 01, 2025 07:51 PM (xcxpd)
That's a fair criticism. Is H&K's QC process worth the extra $$? That's up to the individual deciding whether to plunk down their $$ or not.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (BCwQW)
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Why is Tarzan riding Indian elephants, instead of African loxodonts?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Indian colonizers!
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Indian colonizers!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (ydbCq)
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The Pirate Certificate.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
I NEED that on my resume!
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (KoK5d)
The MIT Pirate Certificate is only made available to MIT students
Well, dang. /crying/
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:11 PM
I gotta say there appears to be a real need for a niche college that issues pirate certificates. With some federal money backing me I could start up a pirate university in no time flat. Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 07:17 PM (VNX3d)
I NEED that on my resume!
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (KoK5d)
The MIT Pirate Certificate is only made available to MIT students
Well, dang. /crying/
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:11 PM
I gotta say there appears to be a real need for a niche college that issues pirate certificates. With some federal money backing me I could start up a pirate university in no time flat. Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
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What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
You need the 6.5 to fill the niche of "a caliber that starts with 6."
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
You need the 6.5 to fill the niche of "a caliber that starts with 6."
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (KoK5d)
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Here's a little bit of trivia about the nickel deposits near Sudbury Ontario mentioned in the industrial film above. They are the result of an oblique strike by a large meteor about 1.85 billion years ago, which melted a large part of the crust and left a large elliptical crater.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (kCBPn)
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I gotta say there appears to be a real need for a niche college that issues pirate certificates. With some federal money backing me I could start up a pirate university in no time flat. Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
You might be able to get a discount on one from the Mexican Navy. Used, slightly damaged.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
You might be able to get a discount on one from the Mexican Navy. Used, slightly damaged.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (VNX3d)
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I gotta say there appears to be a real need for a niche college that issues pirate certificates. With some federal money backing me I could start up a pirate university in no time flat. Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
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Call it "Pirate Trade School." President Trump has said he wants to redirect some Harvard grant money....
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
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Call it "Pirate Trade School." President Trump has said he wants to redirect some Harvard grant money....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (tT6L1)
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The Savage Axis II Precision should get the job done. Won't break the bank either. Shouldn't be more than about $900. Granted, scope and bipod will set you back, but, it will get the job done quite well.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:12 PM
Thanks. I'm just starting to look, but the Savage Precision and the Axis II are among those I'm looking at. Good to see one has Horde approval.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:12 PM
Thanks. I'm just starting to look, but the Savage Precision and the Axis II are among those I'm looking at. Good to see one has Horde approval.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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Happy Sunday Evenin’, All!
Posted by: Bulg at June 01, 2025 08:15 PM (77rzZ)
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I gotta say there appears to be a real need for a niche college that issues pirate certificates. With some federal money backing me I could start up a pirate university in no time flat. Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
I gotta say that a retirement business opportunity presents itself.
Of course, I’ll probably have to pay licensing fees to Ace, Weasel, etc.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 01, 2025 08:13 PM (e5NfL)
I gotta say that a retirement business opportunity presents itself.
Of course, I’ll probably have to pay licensing fees to Ace, Weasel, etc.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:16 PM (Nrq/C)
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Thanks. I'm just starting to look, but the Savage Precision and the Axis II are among those I'm looking at. Good to see one has Horde approval.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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If you're looking to put out the bucks on a Savage Precision, then maybe look at Tikka's new offering. Ruger also has precision rifle at about the same price point, I believe.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM (Wnv9h)
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If you're looking to put out the bucks on a Savage Precision, then maybe look at Tikka's new offering. Ruger also has precision rifle at about the same price point, I believe.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:16 PM (tT6L1)
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Weasel, you still on track to join the Honorable Legion of Retired Morons?
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:08 PM (Nrq/C)
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Two weeks!
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:08 PM (Nrq/C)
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Two weeks!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 08:17 PM (5QMT6)
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Evening fellow reprobates.
Still working on getting my eyesight integration. Had no trouble at 5 yds and 10 yds but at 7 yds still seeing two targets when there is only one in front of me. I shot the best with my B48 iron sights and Ed's CC9 which I eally really like. Fit my hand well and I did not notice recoil even though Ed to,d me to expect it.
Also did well with Blaster's Sig with red dot but had mediocre outing with my G48 with green dot.
I had a spectacular day last Monday at the range where eyesight seemed to be working perfectly. Not so much today. May have been a bit overly optimistic.
Still working on getting my eyesight integration. Had no trouble at 5 yds and 10 yds but at 7 yds still seeing two targets when there is only one in front of me. I shot the best with my B48 iron sights and Ed's CC9 which I eally really like. Fit my hand well and I did not notice recoil even though Ed to,d me to expect it.
Also did well with Blaster's Sig with red dot but had mediocre outing with my G48 with green dot.
I had a spectacular day last Monday at the range where eyesight seemed to be working perfectly. Not so much today. May have been a bit overly optimistic.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 01, 2025 08:17 PM (t/2Uw)
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Here's a little bit of trivia about the nickel deposits near Sudbury Ontario mentioned in the industrial film above. They are the result of an oblique strike by a large meteor about 1.85 billion years ago, which melted a large part of the crust and left a large elliptical crater.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM
Personally, I find it very suspicious that meteors *always* land in a crater!
Posted by: MichiCanuck at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM
Personally, I find it very suspicious that meteors *always* land in a crater!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (0sNs1)
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You need the 6.5 to fill the niche of "a caliber that starts with 6."
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM
I did inherit a sporterized 6.5 Swede, but I'm looking for something more purpose built for long range.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:14 PM
I did inherit a sporterized 6.5 Swede, but I'm looking for something more purpose built for long range.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (Wnv9h)
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Here's a question: suppose you set up a free-lance operation with the intent of whacking Somali pirates and take their shit from them. What are the modern legalities of that? Killing the pirates would seem to be legal, but what about the loot?
I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (ydbCq)
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> Personally, I find it very suspicious that meteors *always* land in a crater!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (0sNs1)
You think that's weird, look at an aerial photograph of Barringer Crater in Arizona. That thing damned near hit the visitor's center!!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (0sNs1)
You think that's weird, look at an aerial photograph of Barringer Crater in Arizona. That thing damned near hit the visitor's center!!
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (qpyNK)
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If you're looking to put out the bucks on a Savage Precision, then maybe look at Tikka's new offering. Ruger also has precision rifle at about the same price point, I believe.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:16 PM
Looking at all of them. Like I said, I don't shoot long range a lot, so the most gun for the least $$ will be very attractive.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:16 PM
Looking at all of them. Like I said, I don't shoot long range a lot, so the most gun for the least $$ will be very attractive.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (Wnv9h)
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I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
I propose that we update Letters of Marque.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
I propose that we update Letters of Marque.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:21 PM (Nrq/C)
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Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
Mexico has a ship you could probably pick up real cheap.
Give me enough dough and I could commission a pirate training ship.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)
Mexico has a ship you could probably pick up real cheap.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 01, 2025 08:21 PM (63Dwl)
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Weasel, you still on track to join the Honorable Legion of Retired Morons?
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:08 PM (Nrq/C)
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I also didn't realize how much stuff I do until I started trying to explain it to someone else.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:08 PM (Nrq/C)
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I also didn't realize how much stuff I do until I started trying to explain it to someone else.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 08:21 PM (5QMT6)
Posted by: AoSHQ Style Guide at June 01, 2025 08:22 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:23 PM (tT6L1)
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> I propose that we update Letters of Marque.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:21 PM (Nrq/C)
Many of us probably know that there was a 19th Century treaty banning Letters of Marque.
The United States never signed that treaty.
We haven't issued any for a long time, but it would be perfectly legal to do so.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:21 PM (Nrq/C)
Many of us probably know that there was a 19th Century treaty banning Letters of Marque.
The United States never signed that treaty.
We haven't issued any for a long time, but it would be perfectly legal to do so.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:24 PM (qpyNK)
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Looking at all of them. Like I said, I don't shoot long range a lot, so the most gun for the least $$ will be very attractive.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (Wnv9h)
Axis II, then. I can help you accurize it to meet high expectations. That’s what I did with my Ruger predator in 6.5.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (Wnv9h)
Axis II, then. I can help you accurize it to meet high expectations. That’s what I did with my Ruger predator in 6.5.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:24 PM (Nrq/C)
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Looking at all of them. Like I said, I don't shoot long range a lot, so the most gun for the least $$ will be very attractive.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (Wnv9h)
The X-Ring guy has a video about shooting a mile with a $800ish dollar gun. He gets a Savage Axis II I think in 6.5 Creedmore and an Arken optic. And shoots a mile with it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:20 PM (Wnv9h)
The X-Ring guy has a video about shooting a mile with a $800ish dollar gun. He gets a Savage Axis II I think in 6.5 Creedmore and an Arken optic. And shoots a mile with it.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:24 PM (QfvaV)
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That Feeling When:
You get an email saying you have won an auction on Gunbroker, and you don't remember what you were bidding on.
"I thought I dropped out when that Smith and Wesson went over a thousand dollars. Was I mistaken? Do I owe somebody a lot of money now?"
Fortunately, it was only a laser pistol sight for under $100, which made it A Good Deal (tm).
You get an email saying you have won an auction on Gunbroker, and you don't remember what you were bidding on.
"I thought I dropped out when that Smith and Wesson went over a thousand dollars. Was I mistaken? Do I owe somebody a lot of money now?"
Fortunately, it was only a laser pistol sight for under $100, which made it A Good Deal (tm).
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 08:25 PM (GM4rl)
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Axis II, then. I can help you accurize it to meet high expectations. That’s what I did with my Ruger predator in 6.5.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:24 PM (Nrq/C)
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Hah, another vote for the Predator. Though, check out the link about. The Gen II looks really good.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:24 PM (Nrq/C)
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Hah, another vote for the Predator. Though, check out the link about. The Gen II looks really good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:25 PM (tT6L1)
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RMBS, this is supposed to be pretty good:
https://tinyurl.com/yckxcbnm
Not expensive, either.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:23 PM (tT6L1)
Oh, yeah, totally forgot! That’s my next rifle when my Gen 1 barrel goes.
https://tinyurl.com/yckxcbnm
Not expensive, either.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:23 PM (tT6L1)
Oh, yeah, totally forgot! That’s my next rifle when my Gen 1 barrel goes.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:26 PM (Nrq/C)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:27 PM (QfvaV)
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If you are coming to the MoMe and want to shoot with the MGC on Sunday.we are going to do it like last year. If you signed up SEG , you will just have to pay the guest fee of $15. We will take lanes based on who,is coming. Only three to a lane and we need a member at each station. Drop me a line if you think you want to. I'll try to organize the meet up and if you didn't come last year and fil out waivers, I can tell you how to get started.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 01, 2025 08:27 PM (t/2Uw)
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The terrorist behind the Boulder CO attack has been identified.
His name is... Bob Chang? No. Jimmy Patel? No. David O'Sullivan? No. Tony Parisi? No. James Anderson? No. Aaron Cohen? No.
Mohamad Soliman. What are the odds?
His name is... Bob Chang? No. Jimmy Patel? No. David O'Sullivan? No. Tony Parisi? No. James Anderson? No. Aaron Cohen? No.
Mohamad Soliman. What are the odds?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:29 PM (qpyNK)
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Here's a question: suppose you set up a free-lance operation with the intent of whacking Somali pirates and take their shit from them. What are the modern legalities of that? Killing the pirates would seem to be legal, but what about the loot?
I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
The US (and probably the Brits, too) had "Admiralty courts which determined the monetary value for things taken into navy service (i.e. ships, guns, etc.) and oversaw the sale of stuff that wasn't (cargo, etc.). Both navies had a pre-determined process to divide the money between the captain, officers, and crew (more rank = more $$). (1 of 2)
I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
The US (and probably the Brits, too) had "Admiralty courts which determined the monetary value for things taken into navy service (i.e. ships, guns, etc.) and oversaw the sale of stuff that wasn't (cargo, etc.). Both navies had a pre-determined process to divide the money between the captain, officers, and crew (more rank = more $$). (1 of 2)
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 08:29 PM (BCwQW)
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Well, time to wander. Cannot believe how the year is flying by.
Have a good one!
Thanks again, Weasel!
Have a good one!
Thanks again, Weasel!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:31 PM (tT6L1)
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Looking forward to seeing you all at the NoVaMoMe! If you need info, hit me up for the deets!
Posted by: bluebell at June 01, 2025 08:32 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 08:33 PM (5QMT6)
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Blake, Blaster, thanks for the links. I'll check those out. I need to ping my buddy who has a Bergara in 6.5, too.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:34 PM (Wnv9h)
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If I'm not paying attention from shot to shot, things creep forward, which is no bueno @ 1000 yards.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (tT6L1)
Probably no bueno at any distance, and thanks for the explain. (Thought it might be something like that.)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 01, 2025 08:09 PM (tT6L1)
Probably no bueno at any distance, and thanks for the explain. (Thought it might be something like that.)
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:35 PM (KoK5d)
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Posted by: bluebell at June 01, 2025 08:32 PM
Bluebell! We're looking forward to seeing y'all in NoVa!
Bluebell! We're looking forward to seeing y'all in NoVa!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:35 PM (Wnv9h)
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"Here's a question: suppose you set up a free-lance operation with the intent of whacking Somali pirates and take their shit from them. What are the modern legalities of that? Killing the pirates would seem to be legal, but what about the loot?"
And what if the loot turns out to be Bitcoin that was paid as ransom for releasing the Somali pirates' victims? What happens if you kill the only pirate that has code to the Bitcoin wallet?
Things were a lot simpler, back in the days of dubloons and pieces of eight.
And what if the loot turns out to be Bitcoin that was paid as ransom for releasing the Somali pirates' victims? What happens if you kill the only pirate that has code to the Bitcoin wallet?
Things were a lot simpler, back in the days of dubloons and pieces of eight.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 08:36 PM (GM4rl)
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151 The terrorist behind the Boulder CO attack has been identified.
Mohamad Soliman. What are the odds?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:29 PM
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So, no need for a wellness check on Ward Churchill.
151 The terrorist behind the Boulder CO attack has been identified.
Mohamad Soliman. What are the odds?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:29 PM
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So, no need for a wellness check on Ward Churchill.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 01, 2025 08:37 PM (HAafC)
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Of course, I’ll probably have to pay licensing fees to Ace, Weasel, etc.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:16 PM (Nrq/C)
The ship would be the US Mencken, right?
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 08:16 PM (Nrq/C)
The ship would be the US Mencken, right?
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:38 PM (KoK5d)
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Thinking about adding a new long range rifle to my collection. I don't shoot long range often, and not beyond 1,000 yds, so this is basically just a fun gun. What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
I am by no means an expert or even that knowledgeable on long range shooting. I have a bolt action 30-06 that I have shot out to 500 yards. A former co-worker WAS pretty good at long range shooting.
From his experience and training with a retired Marine Gunny:
6.5 Creedmore is pretty lousy outside of 1000 yards. The wind does a lot of funny tricks with it.
.308 is better, but again a lot of it depends on the rifle.
He used .30 Win Mag, which is a pretty powerful round. He bought an $800 bolt action rifle for a .30 Win Mag cartridge, then had some specialist gun smiths make a great shooter's rifle out of the action for $5000. He could hit steel targets at a mile.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
I am by no means an expert or even that knowledgeable on long range shooting. I have a bolt action 30-06 that I have shot out to 500 yards. A former co-worker WAS pretty good at long range shooting.
From his experience and training with a retired Marine Gunny:
6.5 Creedmore is pretty lousy outside of 1000 yards. The wind does a lot of funny tricks with it.
.308 is better, but again a lot of it depends on the rifle.
He used .30 Win Mag, which is a pretty powerful round. He bought an $800 bolt action rifle for a .30 Win Mag cartridge, then had some specialist gun smiths make a great shooter's rifle out of the action for $5000. He could hit steel targets at a mile.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 01, 2025 08:40 PM (tjZg/)
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I'd like to be an amateur pirate. Too much pressure when you go pro.
Posted by: fd at June 01, 2025 08:42 PM (vFG9F)
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What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
I've taken my Creedmoor well past a mile. It's an amazing round.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
I've taken my Creedmoor well past a mile. It's an amazing round.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 01, 2025 08:43 PM (oSeBJ)
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I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
(2 of 2)
The last "prize money" awarded to ships' crews in the USN was in the waning days of peace in November 1941. USS Omaha and USS Somers boarded a US flagged vessel that turned out to be the German blockade runner SS Odenwald carrying nearly 4,000 tons of rubber. Sailing under "false" colors is a no-no and is, under the law of the sea, tantamount to piracy. Although US and Germany were still at peace, the USN task group commander reported the capture of SS Odenwald as a "suspected slaver" whose cargo was forfeit to the USN. Although the court case wasn't resolved until 1947 (thanks to WWII), each member of the boarding party got a bit over $3k. Each member of the ships' crews not part of the boarding party got an extra two months pay and allowances.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
(2 of 2)
The last "prize money" awarded to ships' crews in the USN was in the waning days of peace in November 1941. USS Omaha and USS Somers boarded a US flagged vessel that turned out to be the German blockade runner SS Odenwald carrying nearly 4,000 tons of rubber. Sailing under "false" colors is a no-no and is, under the law of the sea, tantamount to piracy. Although US and Germany were still at peace, the USN task group commander reported the capture of SS Odenwald as a "suspected slaver" whose cargo was forfeit to the USN. Although the court case wasn't resolved until 1947 (thanks to WWII), each member of the boarding party got a bit over $3k. Each member of the ships' crews not part of the boarding party got an extra two months pay and allowances.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 08:44 PM (BCwQW)
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What are the Horde's thoughts on 6.5 Creedmore v. 308?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
I've taken my Creedmoor well past a mile. It's an amazing round.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
See, that's real experience. I have never shot 6.5 Creedmore. I only know what I was told.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 07:39 PM (Wnv9h)
I've taken my Creedmoor well past a mile. It's an amazing round.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
See, that's real experience. I have never shot 6.5 Creedmore. I only know what I was told.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 01, 2025 08:44 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 08:47 PM (CItiL)
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Hey, has anyone mentioned you should be buying guns and ammo? Because you should be.
There is a bunch of weirdness going on. Something feels very off.
There is a bunch of weirdness going on. Something feels very off.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:47 PM (QfvaV)
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Things were a lot simpler, back in the days of dubloons and pieces of eight.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 08:36 PM (GM4rl)
There's still a process for taking care of this, even if it hasn't been used for 80 plus years. See my summary of the SS Odenwald, USS Omaha, and USS Somers story.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 08:36 PM (GM4rl)
There's still a process for taking care of this, even if it hasn't been used for 80 plus years. See my summary of the SS Odenwald, USS Omaha, and USS Somers story.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 08:48 PM (BCwQW)
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I'd like to be an amateur pirate. Too much pressure when you go pro.
Posted by: fd at June 01, 2025 08:42 PM (vFG9F)
All we'd need to do is get Weasel to dye his beard, set some burning match in his beard, then slap weaselparrot on his shoulder.
Posted by: fd at June 01, 2025 08:42 PM (vFG9F)
All we'd need to do is get Weasel to dye his beard, set some burning match in his beard, then slap weaselparrot on his shoulder.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 08:49 PM (CItiL)
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I've taken my Creedmoor well past a mile. It's an amazing round.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 01, 2025 08:43 PM
Y'all are confirming most of what I've heard about it. Might be time to add a 6.5 Creed to the inventory.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 01, 2025 08:43 PM
Y'all are confirming most of what I've heard about it. Might be time to add a 6.5 Creed to the inventory.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 08:50 PM (Wnv9h)
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I've taken my Creedmoor well past a mile. It's an amazing round.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
See, that's real experience. I have never shot 6.5 Creedmore. I only know what I was told.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 01, 2025 08:44 PM (tjZg/)
It was during a course, in a training environment, with an expert making wind calls for me.
But still. I got there. Reliably.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
See, that's real experience. I have never shot 6.5 Creedmore. I only know what I was told.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at June 01, 2025 08:44 PM (tjZg/)
It was during a course, in a training environment, with an expert making wind calls for me.
But still. I got there. Reliably.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 01, 2025 08:50 PM (oSeBJ)
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It is amazing the number of results that came up when I put 'fire bomb colorado' into Bing. Wthbis going on there?
But this is what happens when you keep soft peddling fire bombing car dealerships- you encourage these fuckers.
But this is what happens when you keep soft peddling fire bombing car dealerships- you encourage these fuckers.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 08:51 PM (CItiL)
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There is a bunch of weirdness going on. Something feels very off.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:47 PM (QfvaV)
I don't know. I think the oddness feels very much "return to historic norms." Of course, the historic norm is violence and bloodshed to gain and exercise power, or (sometimes) just to whack a few guys from the other clan.
The peace and prosperity, along with freedom and justice reigning, of America is a beautiful anomaly in history.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:47 PM (QfvaV)
I don't know. I think the oddness feels very much "return to historic norms." Of course, the historic norm is violence and bloodshed to gain and exercise power, or (sometimes) just to whack a few guys from the other clan.
The peace and prosperity, along with freedom and justice reigning, of America is a beautiful anomaly in history.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:51 PM (KoK5d)
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Ragnar Danneskjold.
Posted by: Eromero at June 01, 2025 08:52 PM (LHPAg)
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I don't know. I think the oddness feels very much "return to historic norms." Of course, the historic norm is violence and bloodshed to gain and exercise power, or (sometimes) just to whack a few guys from the other clan.
The peace and prosperity, along with freedom and justice reigning, of America is a beautiful anomaly in history.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:51 PM (KoK5d)
Well that's cheery!
But I guess you are saying buy guns and ammo, too!
The peace and prosperity, along with freedom and justice reigning, of America is a beautiful anomaly in history.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:51 PM (KoK5d)
Well that's cheery!
But I guess you are saying buy guns and ammo, too!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:53 PM (QfvaV)
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But I guess you are saying buy guns and ammo, too!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:53 PM
***
and hammer knife flail equipment (just in case).
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:53 PM
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and hammer knife flail equipment (just in case).
Posted by: TRex at June 01, 2025 08:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
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BTW, in my view of the universe, anyone with a molotov cocktail in their hands is a legitimate self-defense target. Once it's lit, you know it's an incendiary, and will do grave bodily harm or death to someone, drop them. Period.
(And I would argue that anyone standing around them blocking said shot is partaking in the use of that incendiary and is ALSO a legitimate target.)
(And I would argue that anyone standing around them blocking said shot is partaking in the use of that incendiary and is ALSO a legitimate target.)
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:56 PM (KoK5d)
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But I guess you are saying buy guns and ammo, too!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:53 PM (QfvaV)
Also, PRACTICE!
/grumbles about getting to the range, some day/
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:53 PM (QfvaV)
Also, PRACTICE!
/grumbles about getting to the range, some day/
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 08:57 PM (KoK5d)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at June 01, 2025 08:59 PM (VNX3d)
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Speaking of buying guns and ammo - sra blaster says we should go to the gun show Father's Day and get me a Kimber CDS9, too. Because that would be on-brand for us.
I liked shooting hers today and I think once we get the dot dialed in it will be a great carry piece. But my EDC is a P365 XL with a Romeo Zero on it and it is completely dialed in. It works well for me. I don't actually want a Kimber CDS9 because I am very happy with my carry gun.
But in the same price range is a MAC-5 which is a Turkish SP-5 clone AND I happen to know the owner of the company that engineers and imports them. That would go against the two of everything plan, but rules were made to be broken.
I liked shooting hers today and I think once we get the dot dialed in it will be a great carry piece. But my EDC is a P365 XL with a Romeo Zero on it and it is completely dialed in. It works well for me. I don't actually want a Kimber CDS9 because I am very happy with my carry gun.
But in the same price range is a MAC-5 which is a Turkish SP-5 clone AND I happen to know the owner of the company that engineers and imports them. That would go against the two of everything plan, but rules were made to be broken.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:59 PM (QfvaV)
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Interesting framing on a lot of the stories, calling the people marching for the hostages in Israel 'a protest.'
Also muddling it by not saying the people set on fire were part of the walk.
I hate journalists.
Also muddling it by not saying the people set on fire were part of the walk.
I hate journalists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:00 PM (CItiL)
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and hammer knife flail equipment (just in case).
Posted by: TRex at June 01, 2025 08:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
That makes it sound medieval!
Posted by: TRex at June 01, 2025 08:54 PM (IQ6Gq)
That makes it sound medieval!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 09:01 PM (QfvaV)
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I hate journalists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:00 PM (CItiL)
Not as much as you should.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:00 PM (CItiL)
Not as much as you should.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 09:01 PM (QfvaV)
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Just dropped off 2 Weatherby's at my gunsmith for complete refurbishment.
300 Win mag. Both made in Austria.
Can't wait to see them re-done.
300 Win mag. Both made in Austria.
Can't wait to see them re-done.
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 01, 2025 09:04 PM (7NkZG)
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But in the same price range is a MAC-5 which is a Turkish SP-5 clone AND I happen to know the owner of the company that engineers and imports them. That would go against the two of everything plan, but rules were made to be broken.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:59 PM (QfvaV)
But can the lower receiver accommodate an auto sear? Gotta think about growth potential, you know.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 08:59 PM (QfvaV)
But can the lower receiver accommodate an auto sear? Gotta think about growth potential, you know.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:04 PM (BCwQW)
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So, he hosed them down with gasoline first, then started chucking molotov.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:04 PM (CItiL)
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But can the lower receiver accommodate an auto sear? Gotta think about growth potential, you know.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:04 PM (BCwQW)
I will have to ask!
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:04 PM (BCwQW)
I will have to ask!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 09:06 PM (QfvaV)
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So, no need for a wellness check on Ward Churchill.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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LoL! There's a name I haven't heard of in years! How is ole Professor Cosplay Revolutionary?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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LoL! There's a name I haven't heard of in years! How is ole Professor Cosplay Revolutionary?
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at June 01, 2025 09:09 PM (sAmhv)
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I hate journalists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:00 PM (CItiL)
"You have heretofore read public sentiment in your newspapers, that live by falsehood and excitement; and the quicker you seek for truth in other quarters, the better."
Major General Wiliam T. Sherman, September 1864.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:00 PM (CItiL)
"You have heretofore read public sentiment in your newspapers, that live by falsehood and excitement; and the quicker you seek for truth in other quarters, the better."
Major General Wiliam T. Sherman, September 1864.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:09 PM (BCwQW)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 01, 2025 09:09 PM (63Dwl)
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So I will ask you again; what in the ever-loving hell is going through your mind when you're blazing away at the range, if you are not focusing on fundamentals each and every time you yank on the trigger?
I actually feel my junk get larger every time I pull the trigger on the S&W BFG 500 Magnum and detonate a round.
I actually feel my junk get larger every time I pull the trigger on the S&W BFG 500 Magnum and detonate a round.
Posted by: No Viagra Needed Here at June 01, 2025 09:14 PM (a4flb)
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That makes it sound medieval!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 09:01 PM
And the problem with that is what?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at June 01, 2025 09:01 PM
And the problem with that is what?
Posted by: Marcellus Wallace at June 01, 2025 09:15 PM (Wnv9h)
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>> But can the lower receiver accommodate an auto sear?
No. It has a poorly welded block so you can’t use an auto sear.
No. It has a poorly welded block so you can’t use an auto sear.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 01, 2025 09:17 PM (7PBzX)
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One of the young engineers showed up at the office with an unconventional haircut, looking rather like one of the Vikings in the TV series. I called him "Ragnar" until it grew out.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 09:17 PM (GM4rl)
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Just to end speculating:
Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_ 11m
BREAKING: Three senior DHS sources tell @FoxNews that the Boulder terror suspect is an Egyptian national in the U.S. illegally as a visa overstay who entered the U.S. during the Biden administration. I’m told Mohamed Sabry Soliman arrived at LAX on 8/27/22 on a B1/B2 nonimmigrant visa with an authorized stay through 2/26/23, but he overstayed & never left.
I’m told on 9/29/22, he filed some sort of claim with USCIS, potentially an asylum claim, and on 3/29/23, USCIS under the Biden admin gave him work authorization, which expired on 3/28/25.
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 19m
BREAKING: Suspect in Boulder, Colorado terror attack yelled 'Free Palestine!'; FBI investigating attack as "act of terrorism".
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 26m
BREAKING: Witnesses report Boulder, Colorado suspect used makeshift flamethrower and threw incendiary device into crowd.
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 26m
BREAKING: At least 6 people injured, aged 67-88, in Boulder, Colorado terror attack.
http://tiny.cc/gxpl001
eyewitness account
Bill Melugin @BillMelugin_ 11m
BREAKING: Three senior DHS sources tell @FoxNews that the Boulder terror suspect is an Egyptian national in the U.S. illegally as a visa overstay who entered the U.S. during the Biden administration. I’m told Mohamed Sabry Soliman arrived at LAX on 8/27/22 on a B1/B2 nonimmigrant visa with an authorized stay through 2/26/23, but he overstayed & never left.
I’m told on 9/29/22, he filed some sort of claim with USCIS, potentially an asylum claim, and on 3/29/23, USCIS under the Biden admin gave him work authorization, which expired on 3/28/25.
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 19m
BREAKING: Suspect in Boulder, Colorado terror attack yelled 'Free Palestine!'; FBI investigating attack as "act of terrorism".
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 26m
BREAKING: Witnesses report Boulder, Colorado suspect used makeshift flamethrower and threw incendiary device into crowd.
AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 26m
BREAKING: At least 6 people injured, aged 67-88, in Boulder, Colorado terror attack.
http://tiny.cc/gxpl001
eyewitness account
Posted by: andycanuck at June 01, 2025 09:20 PM (2yoRf)
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'And what if the loot turns out to be Bitcoin that was paid as ransom for releasing the Somali pirates' victims?'
That takes all the fun out of killing pirates if you can't keep their stuff.
I guess you still get the experience points.
'And what if the loot turns out to be Bitcoin that was paid as ransom for releasing the Somali pirates' victims?'
That takes all the fun out of killing pirates if you can't keep their stuff.
I guess you still get the experience points.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 01, 2025 09:21 PM (3wi/L)
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But can the lower receiver accommodate an auto sear?
No. It has a poorly welded block so you can’t use an auto sear.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 01, 2025 09:17 PM (7PBzX)
Probably because it's an import.
No. It has a poorly welded block so you can’t use an auto sear.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 01, 2025 09:17 PM (7PBzX)
Probably because it's an import.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:22 PM (BCwQW)
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Was the Boulder terrorist arrested, or perforated?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 09:22 PM (i0F8b)
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Delurk
Howdy all! Great read tonight.
Wish I could get to the range to practice my fundamentals. I’m stuck with virtual practice for now darn it. Too dang busy! Errgh!
Thanks for the thread Weasel!
Relurk
Howdy all! Great read tonight.
Wish I could get to the range to practice my fundamentals. I’m stuck with virtual practice for now darn it. Too dang busy! Errgh!
Thanks for the thread Weasel!
Relurk
Posted by: Ten Gallon Hat at June 01, 2025 09:22 PM (jTlEr)
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:23 PM (Jtz/H)
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I guess you still get the experience points.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 01, 2025 09:21 PM (3wi/L)
*golfclap*
But weapon durability takes a hit. But, level up on the Somali pirates before moving to the 10-20 level Iranian navy.
Everyone has to start somewhere.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 01, 2025 09:21 PM (3wi/L)
*golfclap*
But weapon durability takes a hit. But, level up on the Somali pirates before moving to the 10-20 level Iranian navy.
Everyone has to start somewhere.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:23 PM (zZu0s)
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That takes all the fun out of killing pirates if you can't keep their stuff.
I guess you still get the experience points.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 01, 2025 09:21 PM (3wi/L)
You have to show up at the prize court with all of the pirates' stuff. Assuming that the rules for the Odenwald case still apply, "finders keepers" is still a good rule of thumb for how the prize court operates.
I guess you still get the experience points.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 01, 2025 09:21 PM (3wi/L)
You have to show up at the prize court with all of the pirates' stuff. Assuming that the rules for the Odenwald case still apply, "finders keepers" is still a good rule of thumb for how the prize court operates.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:25 PM (BCwQW)
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Howdy 10GH!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:25 PM (Jtz/H)
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Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:25 PM (BCwQW)
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Posted by: andycanuck at June 01, 2025 09:20 PM (2yoRf)
I think the AoS stylebook needs to be amended to indicate the preferred form of reference is "Biden" or "Biden?" not Biden!
I think the AoS stylebook needs to be amended to indicate the preferred form of reference is "Biden" or "Biden?" not Biden!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at June 01, 2025 09:26 PM (hOUT3)
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Was the Boulder terrorist arrested, or perforated?
Arrested. Hawaiian judges probably are prepping rulings that he be released back into a crowd with more Molotov cocktails.
Arrested. Hawaiian judges probably are prepping rulings that he be released back into a crowd with more Molotov cocktails.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 01, 2025 09:27 PM (NqGS/)
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>> Probably because it's an import.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:22 PM (BCwQW)
I’m gonna be kind. You look at HK welds and it’s a thing of beauty. I aspire to weld that good. I look at the imports and say- what the hell.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:22 PM (BCwQW)
I’m gonna be kind. You look at HK welds and it’s a thing of beauty. I aspire to weld that good. I look at the imports and say- what the hell.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 01, 2025 09:27 PM (0RGA5)
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Hey! Forgot to mention, thanks for the M1 videos last week. I’m still going through them but I love that vintage mil stuff. And I maybe if I can get to the range with my CMP Rifle, 30 cal, M1 I can put that to good use!!
Posted by: Ten Gallon Hat at June 01, 2025 09:27 PM (jTlEr)
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Thanks for the great H&K write-up, Ed L!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:28 PM (Jtz/H)
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Thanks for a great Gub Thread, Weasel! I'll smoke a cigar for you in NH.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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So, the Poles voted the wrong way. Let's see if their high court overturns the election.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:29 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:29 PM (Jtz/H)
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Here's the Insty link on the incident in Boulder:
https://shorter.me/Tr4yy
Guy was an Egyptian national who entered on a B2 visa under Biden, then overstayed. There's video at the Insty link in some Tweets.
https://shorter.me/Tr4yy
Guy was an Egyptian national who entered on a B2 visa under Biden, then overstayed. There's video at the Insty link in some Tweets.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 09:29 PM (KoK5d)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:28 PM (Wnv9h)
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Please do! Have a good time.
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Please do! Have a good time.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:31 PM (Jtz/H)
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So, the Poles voted the wrong way. Let's see if their high court overturns the election.
That's the CIA/WEF's entire playbook now. It worked on Bolsonaro, it almost worked on Netanyahu, and it could've worked on Trump except they had DEI hires do the lifting.
That's the CIA/WEF's entire playbook now. It worked on Bolsonaro, it almost worked on Netanyahu, and it could've worked on Trump except they had DEI hires do the lifting.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 01, 2025 09:31 PM (NqGS/)
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Fundamentals versus fifty years of bad habits. Which will win?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 09:32 PM (GM4rl)
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Ok, love this one. On phone so I will try to break the link so it does not have carnal knowledge of the margins.
https://x.com/Budrip1007/
status/1929300289682583569
https://x.com/Budrip1007/
status/1929300289682583569
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 09:32 PM (zZu0s)
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Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at June 01, 2025 09:32 PM (GM4rl)
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Fundamentals take the place of bad habits!
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Fundamentals take the place of bad habits!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:33 PM (Jtz/H)
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Thanks for the great H&K write-up, Ed L!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:28 PM (Jtz/H)
You're welcome, Weasel! Next up: the Walther PPK/S SD in .32 ACP.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:28 PM (Jtz/H)
You're welcome, Weasel! Next up: the Walther PPK/S SD in .32 ACP.
Posted by: Ed L at June 01, 2025 09:34 PM (BCwQW)
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Please do! Have a good time.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:31 PM
Will do! We expect to see you there next year!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:31 PM
Will do! We expect to see you there next year!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:34 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thank you Horde and thank you Weasel.
Weasel - best wishes for the last two week push. Let people say nice things to you before you go. I'm sure you'll be missed.
Weasel - best wishes for the last two week push. Let people say nice things to you before you go. I'm sure you'll be missed.
Posted by: TRex at June 01, 2025 09:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:34 PM (Wnv9h)
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Well I won't have too much work as an excuse!
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Well I won't have too much work as an excuse!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:35 PM (Jtz/H)
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134 Here's a question: suppose you set up a free-lance operation with the intent of whacking Somali pirates and take their shit from them. What are the modern legalities of that? Killing the pirates would seem to be legal, but what about the loot?
I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
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They don't have any shit, that's why they're pirates.
As far as their captured ships and crews -- the only lreal value these things have is their ransoms. No real resale value in the modern world.
Western, non-criminal people can't ransom crews, the cargoes are spoiled or rusted from sitting in the Somali heat, and the ships have many unsightly stains and cigarette burns. And what's that terrible smell?
Shooting the pirates to pieces as they approach is where the money's at, but that job is already taken.
134 Here's a question: suppose you set up a free-lance operation with the intent of whacking Somali pirates and take their shit from them. What are the modern legalities of that? Killing the pirates would seem to be legal, but what about the loot?
I believe under classic English martial law, any goodies on the pirate ship were considered to be salvage/fair prize, but I could be wrong about that.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 01, 2025 08:18 PM (qpyNK)
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They don't have any shit, that's why they're pirates.
As far as their captured ships and crews -- the only lreal value these things have is their ransoms. No real resale value in the modern world.
Western, non-criminal people can't ransom crews, the cargoes are spoiled or rusted from sitting in the Somali heat, and the ships have many unsightly stains and cigarette burns. And what's that terrible smell?
Shooting the pirates to pieces as they approach is where the money's at, but that job is already taken.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 01, 2025 09:37 PM (ES1Rb)
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Opinions?
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
I have a S&W Model 36, and it works great. Why spend $900 when you can get the quintessential pocket .38 Special for less than half of that on the used market? And you can shoot +P out of it and beat the ballistics of a 9mm.
Posted by: davidt at June 01, 2025 07:27 PM (i0F8b)
I have a S&W Model 36, and it works great. Why spend $900 when you can get the quintessential pocket .38 Special for less than half of that on the used market? And you can shoot +P out of it and beat the ballistics of a 9mm.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 09:37 PM (mWSu4)
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Thanks for the Gun Thread, Weasel.
On that email (sent yesterday), you'll know it because I forgot the pics on the first one and resent it with the pics.
On that email (sent yesterday), you'll know it because I forgot the pics on the first one and resent it with the pics.
Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2025 09:37 PM (KoK5d)
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Posted by: TRex at June 01, 2025 09:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Will do. Thanks. Still seems a little surreal.
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Will do. Thanks. Still seems a little surreal.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:41 PM (Mmf4/)
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Thx as always, Weasel. We’ll be thinking of you on Friday.
As we frantically try to call shots.
As we frantically try to call shots.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 09:43 PM (ZacH9)
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Well I won't have too much work as an excuse!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:35 PM
Truth. See you in NoVa.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:35 PM
Truth. See you in NoVa.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:44 PM (Wnv9h)
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Thx as always, Weasel. We’ll be thinking of you on Friday.
As we frantically try to call shots.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 09:43 PM (ZacH9)
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Ha! You must first appease the range with a sacrifice!
As we frantically try to call shots.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 09:43 PM (ZacH9)
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Ha! You must first appease the range with a sacrifice!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:45 PM (Mmf4/)
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As we frantically try to call shots.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 09:43 PM
"Try" being the operative word.
Posted by: RI Red at June 01, 2025 09:43 PM
"Try" being the operative word.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:45 PM (Wnv9h)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:44 PM (Wnv9h)
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Yeah man! Looking forward to it.
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Yeah man! Looking forward to it.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:46 PM (Mmf4/)
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Ha! You must first appease the range with a sacrifice!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:45 PM
I'll bring my Garand. We can offer a bloody thumb sacrifice.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:45 PM
I'll bring my Garand. We can offer a bloody thumb sacrifice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:47 PM (Wnv9h)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 01, 2025 09:47 PM (Wnv9h)
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The range was angry that day, my friends.
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The range was angry that day, my friends.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:51 PM (Mmf4/)
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Tarzan and the Huntress... watched that while home sick as a kid. Best version of Ghost Riders in the Sky, thanks Weasel. Late to the thread, but finally got some range time last weekend. Bride de scampy was pulling left - but she got that sorted out. I took the Buck Mark out. Went better than expected.
Posted by: scampydog at June 01, 2025 09:51 PM (41CYW)
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The range was angry that day, my friends.
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:51 PM (Mmf4/)
And the socks were tight!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:51 PM (Mmf4/)
And the socks were tight!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 09:52 PM (mWSu4)
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:52 PM (Mmf4/)
Posted by: cosmo kramer at June 01, 2025 09:53 PM (2yoRf)
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So a woman vandalized AND shit a Tesla. Ammunition is expensive. I am just saying.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)
She must have an asshole the size of a small garage.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at June 01, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)
She must have an asshole the size of a small garage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 01, 2025 09:54 PM (ht/R9)
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And the socks were tight!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 09:52 PM (mWSu4)
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A terrible combination!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 01, 2025 09:52 PM (mWSu4)
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A terrible combination!
Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2025 09:54 PM (Mmf4/)
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98 The Ruger LCP Max bumps capacity to 10 rounds, but there were reports of teething problems when they came out. I haven't had an ear to the ground to know if they've been resolved.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:01 PM (0sNs1)
The first time I took mine out, the side of the frame started flexing enough for the trigger bar to come loose and result in a dead trigger. Sent it in to Ruger's Mayodan facility, replaced the trigger, bar and frame and turned it around in about a day. No issues the last time I shot it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 01, 2025 08:01 PM (0sNs1)
The first time I took mine out, the side of the frame started flexing enough for the trigger bar to come loose and result in a dead trigger. Sent it in to Ruger's Mayodan facility, replaced the trigger, bar and frame and turned it around in about a day. No issues the last time I shot it.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at June 01, 2025 09:55 PM (2VTt6)
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Thank you for Clark and Campbell.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 01, 2025 09:57 PM (dR6yv)
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Hate to say it, but sometimes i just fuzz out and think about the burger I'm going to have after...usually my best shooting.
Posted by: Mudshark at June 01, 2025 10:08 PM (BFiux)
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Last night about 2300 a 100+ person “house party” went full OK Coral. Multiple shooters. One dead, a dozen wounded. Police interview 70 witnesses. Nobody knows nothing.
Hope the neighbors had man-portable person and home protection systems.
Hope the neighbors had man-portable person and home protection systems.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at June 01, 2025 10:10 PM (XnUnk)
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No range report from me, perhaps in a month I can. Instead my medical report is I am slowly and painfully healing from a closed fracture with a platinum pin in my thigh bone. Thanks to Weasel & company for this thread. My long delayed report should include 5 30.06 military rifles, a repaired? .22 pistol and S&W M-60 .38 Special.
Posted by: Bond in Michigan at June 01, 2025 10:26 PM (BRjK4)
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Hey, Weasel--
Put me in the "I'm always thinking about fundamentals" category--any time I pick up one of my pistols: at the range, or doing dry fire at home with a laser cartridge.
I mean, how else can you improve your marksmanship? Like any other complex skill--my other big personal interest is playing music--it's all about mastering fundamentals. And mastering fundamentals is an endless pursuit; there's no upper limit on how good you can get. The cool thing is that the better you get the more you can enjoy doing it.
Put me in the "I'm always thinking about fundamentals" category--any time I pick up one of my pistols: at the range, or doing dry fire at home with a laser cartridge.
I mean, how else can you improve your marksmanship? Like any other complex skill--my other big personal interest is playing music--it's all about mastering fundamentals. And mastering fundamentals is an endless pursuit; there's no upper limit on how good you can get. The cool thing is that the better you get the more you can enjoy doing it.
Posted by: Steve at June 01, 2025 11:10 PM (p8BYK)
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Keep this going please, great job!
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