The Supreme Court Has Deigned to Allow Trump to Be President On a Case-by-Case Basis

They're actually allowing Trump to sign an EO to cancel Biden's previous EO granting mass amnesty to 530,000 illegal aliens.

Apparently this is controversial -- Democrat EOs have More Constitutional Power than Republican ones, but the Supreme Court will allow a Republican EO to cancel a Democrat one just this once.

In an unsigned order that seven of the justices backed, the court stayed a district court decision that prevented the Trump administration from revoking Temporary Protected Status (TPS) from over a half-million migrants in the US. The court's order allows the Department of Homeland Security to initiate removal processes for these migrants even while a First Circuit appellate panel considers the case on appeal.
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Presumably, seven justices on the Supreme Court recognize that policy control comes with democratic elections as an expression of the will of the electorate. Since the apparent 7-2 majority on this order never explain themselves, we can only presume that they feel Trump is likely to prevail on that basis. We do get a big hint in that direction by the language of the stay: the court has ordered a stay to remain in effect regardless of how the First Circuit rules in due course on the appeal. If the appeal sides with the district court, it will have no effect as long as the White House seeks cert with the Supreme Court "in a timely manner." Clearly, the seven justices -- including Elena Kagan, interestingly -- feel that the Trump administration is likely to prevail on the merits if and when they review the case.

Ketanji Brown and Wise Latina Sotomayor dissented. See the link for that sh*tshow.

Stephen Milller blasted a CNN reporter for resorting to leftwing euphemisms for "illegal aliens with criminal records as long as the Rio Grande."

Rusty Weiss at RedState:

Brown questioned Miller on the case, using the flowery descriptor of Reyes as an "undocumented migrant." She also failed to note the Mexican national's criminal record while portraying him in an isolated manner as a "victim of a crime."
Miller wasn't interested in playing games.
"I want to clarify what you mean so we're talking about the same thing," Miller replied. "Are you saying this immigrant was here illegally?"

Brown falsely claimed she had clarified her comments when, in reality, she only altered the phrasing from "undocumented migrant" to "undocumented immigrant."
He is neither of those. With a criminal record, he is most definitely documented. And he is neither a migrant nor an immigrant; he is a criminal illegal alien, regardless of what another criminal may have done to set him up.
"You said undocumented, and I wasn't clear what that means," Miller continued, noting that such a word could assert that he simply had a fake ID.
Brown was disgusted with the retort.
"I want this to be, and call me naive, a good faith discussion about what's happening right now," she countered.
Miller shot back, "When we use language that's designed to obscure the truth, that's not good faith. An illegal alien is an illegal alien. They're not an 'undocumented migrant.'"

Video at the link.

Kinda-sorta related, if you squint: The FBI is finally going to investigate antifa terrorists.

Do you need names? Some of the rioters arrested at the attack over the weekend are Antifa members who were arrested previously in 2020 and 2021 in Portland.
— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) May 28, 2025

Doesn't Bongino know that antifa is "just an idea" and might not even exist?

Not related but I have to put it somewhere: The economy is cooking.

Personal income is surging:

CNBC's Rick Santelli: "The income numbers, really, for the first four months of year — they're stellar ... This administration is criticized for just about everything under the sun ... Why don't we give credit where credit is due? Income really shooting up." 🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/TuqN9JMoIp
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) May 30, 2025

CNBC: Personal income increased 0.8% in April — "almost TRIPLE the expectations." 🔥

"They're powerful numbers — up 0.6% in January, up 0.7% in February, up 0.5% last month, up 0.8% this month. This is a GREAT four-month start to any year." pic.twitter.com/s1Rx1KAYFl
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) May 30, 2025

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Posted by: GF at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (UhUim)

2 Willowed-
Elon is sporting a black eye in the Oval Office.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:22 PM (NpAcC)

3 Called the otters. Penguins can find their own way.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)

4
Reading the content.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (n7rxJ)

5 Willowed, naturally.

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 30, 2025 02:25 PM (6TlG5)

6 So nice of them.

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 02:25 PM (pMi6S)

7 Willowed-
Elon is sporting a black eye in the Oval Office.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:22 PM (NpAcC)

Had dinner with the Macrons.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (dGCAG)

8 Remember Ketanji Brown Jackson was recommended by Paul Ryan.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (NpAcC)

9 Mighty white of them. heh

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (14URa)

10 2 Willowed-
Elon is sporting a black eye in the Oval Office.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:22 PM (NpAcC)

Was he on Macron's plane?

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (mxvzO)

11 In an unsigned order that seven of the justices backed, the court stayed a district court decision that prevented the Trump administration from revoking Temporary Protected Status (TPS) from over a half-million migrants in the US. The court's order allows the Department of Homeland Security to initiate removal processes for these migrants even while a First Circuit appellate panel considers the case on appeal.

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An important element of this is that the stay allows Trump to actively get these people out of the country. They have less than 30 days to do so legally before they're in violation of the parole. The government has names and addresses of everyone involved.

Everyone's going to be out very quickly.

And the underlying case is going to get moot really fast.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

12 If you arrest the antifa leadership you are going to be putting nationally known Democrats and "thought leaders" in jail.

And I would love to see it.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (t0Rmr)

13
omg Steve Miller wouldn't even say "illegal immigrant" or "illegal migrant."

Illegal ALIEN.

This is what I voted for.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (n7rxJ)

14 4
Reading the content.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

*places hand on forehead*
*swoons*
*falls onto fainting couch*

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (W2Pud)

15 There really needs to be some clarity on the separation of powers and how things work here. Its gotten so muddled and messed up with judges being absolutely imperial. Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (2VST1)

16 Not related but I have to put it somewhere: The economy is cooking.

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I was promised that tariffs were going to destroy the planet, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

17 Trump is a TACO!

Posted by: The Left Cannot Meme at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (yd2/I)

18 weren't 'inflation' numbers also pretty good?

Posted by: gnats local 675 at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (CWTWj)

19 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (Dz1R2)

20 Jumanji and the Wide Latina are abominations. We can thank Biden for the former, and Obongo for the latter.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (YqDXo)

21 15 There really needs to be some clarity on the separation of powers and how things work here. Its gotten so muddled and messed up with judges being absolutely imperial. Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (2VST1)

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Almost the entire modern function of the federal judiciary is a violation of separation of powers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

22 >>> Remember Ketanji Brown Jackson was recommended by Paul Ryan.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (NpAcC)

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Let me just borrow Sarah's shocked face.

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (6TlG5)

23 Let's see:

Personal Income up
Inflation Down
Trade Deficit cut in half
530,000 Illegals can be deported.

A very good day for Trump.

Posted by: WisRich at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (G0vdT)

24 There really needs to be some clarity on the separation of powers and how things work here. Its gotten so muddled and messed up with judges being absolutely imperial. Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (2VST1)
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They're supposed to ref the game, not block and tackle for one of the teams.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (YqDXo)

25 Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (2VST1)

Judges are meant to judge cases. "How does The Law apply in this particular matter".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (VoAdT)

26 So nice of them.
Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 02:25 PM (pMi6S)

People don't like it when I'm snide about these things, so I'll try to play it straight: Team Trump is letting this stuff all play out, and with each and every one of these issues, not once have they suggested the courts have no authority to dictate what they can and cannot do.

It's hard for me to see this as anything other than a shutout for the courts. Even when they rule in Trump's favor, the bottom line is, he still can't do anything unless a court says he can.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (dGCAG)

27 Personal Income up
Inflation Down
Trade Deficit cut in half
530,000 Illegals can be deported.

A very good day for Trump.

Posted by: WisRich at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (G0vdT)
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So an existential threat to Our Democracy, amirite?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (YqDXo)

28 Sotomayor needs eclairs stat.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 02:29 PM (2ap+5)

29 Not related but I have to put it somewhere: The economy is cooking.

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Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot And Cooking!

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:29 PM (mI7PH)

30 Since Roberts is obsessed with the the judicial branch's legitimacy, make it clear that Trump is going to start ignoring judges.

He basically folded on ObamaCare because he didn't want Obama made.

Start threatening to pack the court, etc.

Posted by: Leupold at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (4pwAx)

31 Not related but I have to put it somewhere: The economy is cooking.

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Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot And Cooking!
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:29 PM (mI7PH)

TACO: Time America Cooks Again!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (VNX3d)

32 "The income numbers, really, for the first four months of year — they're stellar ... This administration is criticized for just about everything under the sun ... Why don't we give credit where credit is due? Income really shooting up."

MSNBC Headline:

Trump-Associated Statistics "Shooting Up" the Place: Nation Under Lockdown as Police Search for Gunman.

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (pMi6S)

33 Illegal ALIEN.

This is what I voted for.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (n7rxJ)

It really is the correct term. Being a "migrant" or not is irrelevant. You are here, from somewhere else. That makes you an Alien. You are doing so illegally. That makes it.... illegal.

Documents and living arrangements have precisely zero to do with it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (VoAdT)

34 Heck, even Kagan is putting a little distance between herself and KJB and the Wise Latina.

Posted by: WisRich at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (G0vdT)

35 Things are doing better than I expected, to be honest. I figured we'd see a mini recession because of the tariffs and the doom saying by the press but... its not happening.

Part of it is probably businesses beathing a sigh of relief with Trump in office, but part of it is is definitely inflation disappearing and people having money to spend. But it is surprising to me, a happy surprise.

I'm sure the press is miserable at having to report this.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (2VST1)

36 It's hard for me to see this as anything other than a shutout for the courts. Even when they rule in Trump's favor, the bottom line is, he still can't do anything unless a court says he can.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (dGCAG)

Exactly. I’m glad we’re winning some, but the game shouldn’t even be played.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (yd2/I)

37
Ketanji Brown Jackson:

"it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

Oh yes, that Constitutional clause about border crashers' right to a comfortable life and livelihood on American soil.

ace, we need a nickname for that lady along the lines of Ruth Bader-Meinhoff and Latrine John-Pissoir. You are the king at this sort of thing.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (n7rxJ)

38 Sotomayor needs eclairs stat.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 02:29 PM (2ap+5)
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I keep sending her cheesecakes. Keep a good thought.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (YqDXo)

39 34 Heck, even Kagan is putting a little distance between herself and KJB and the Wise Latina.
Posted by: WisRich at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (G0vdT)

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I like to imagine Kagan in conference with her head in her hands. "These dumb bitches..." she says under her breath.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

40 Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Ancient Israel seemed to have that same trouble too in the Old Testament. History sure rhymes.

Posted by: Archer at May 30, 2025 02:32 PM (IDphi)

41 Ketanji Brown Jackson:

"it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

Oh yes, that Constitutional clause about border crashers' right to a comfortable life and livelihood on American soil.
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Support the illegal aliens. Take the money from that that would otherwise be given to the blacks. Watch the fur fly then!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (YqDXo)

42 It's hard for me to see this as anything other than a shutout for the courts. Even when they rule in Trump's favor, the bottom line is, he still can't do anything unless a court says he can.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (dGCAG)
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That's we need two terms of MAGA Potus's to change the makeup of the courts.

Posted by: WisRich at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (G0vdT)

43 ace, we need a nickname for that lady along the lines of Ruth Bader-Meinhoff and Latrine John-Pissoir. You are the king at this sort of thing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (n7rxJ)

I thought "Affirmative Action Jackson" was already in the style guide....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (VoAdT)

44 Check out the videos at the RedState link of Stephen Miller. He is good.

What makes me crazy is how the media talky bitch keeps overtalking him. They all do this and it is so annoying. They have their own system of making sure no conservative can ever complete a sentence. Imagine being her husband?

so I gotta wonder if they are promoted based on their ability to overtalk? Now imagine their staff meetings. So rude and so unproductive.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (x99pR)

45 33 Illegal ALIEN.

This is what I voted for.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (n7rxJ)

It really is the correct term. Being a "migrant" or not is irrelevant. You are here, from somewhere else. That makes you an Alien. You are doing so illegally. That makes it.... illegal.

Documents and living arrangements have precisely zero to do with it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (VoAdT)

And human traffickers or drug smugglers aren't migrants either. Visa overstays aren't undocumented. Illegal alien is really the only sensible term for the category.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (okun6)

46 I love Stephen Miller and why haven't we been drilling down like this on the euphemisms that the left constantly use to obfuscate the issues.

When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean...

Trump has pulled the curtain back and the feckless gop could have been doing this the whole time but they never wanted to. They're in on it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (mxvzO)

47 I keep sending her cheesecakes. Keep a good thought.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (YqDXo)

Boxes of chocolates work too

Posted by: night lifted at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (FZn/N)

48 I like to imagine Kagan in conference with her head in her hands. "These dumb bitches..." she says under her breath.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
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I'd like to hear what Clarence Thomas thinks about Jumanji.

"You're making us look bad!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (YqDXo)

49 In general don't look at how they vote when it doesn't appear to matter how they vote.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (Dz1R2)

50 Commissar Judges

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 02:34 PM (ypFCm)

51 CNBC > NBC?

Posted by: Max Power at May 30, 2025 02:34 PM (q177U)

52 Sotomayor needs eclairs stat.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 02:29 PM (2ap+5)

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We're gonna need bigger cacao tropical forests ...

/Check that -- we can harvest from San Fransicko and substitute caca instead ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:34 PM (mI7PH)

53 Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

According to Marbury v. Madison, that comment is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 02:34 PM (pMi6S)

54 Even when they rule in Trump's favor, the bottom line is, he still can't do anything unless a court says he can.

Right, every time they rule like this instead of stomping on the previous ruling and vacating it with prejudice, they are reinforcing the idea that the president acts only with the permission of the judicial department.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:35 PM (2VST1)

55
Reading the content.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

*places hand on forehead*
*swoons*
*falls onto fainting couch*
Posted by: nurse ratched

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lolol, when I'm not first, gotta resort to something radical.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:35 PM (n7rxJ)

56 I'd like to hear what Clarence Thomas thinks about Jumanji.

"You're making us look bad!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (YqDXo)

"Black folk?"

"Judges, you halfwit!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:35 PM (VoAdT)

57 CNBC: Personal income increased 0.8% in April — "almost TRIPLE the expectations."
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Don't you love economic expectations? This is another area where we'd do better asking those playing in pre-K sandboxes.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (od0dV)

58 But I thought the Trump tariffs destroyed the economy?

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (YwEeS)

59 It really is the correct term. Being a "migrant" or not is irrelevant. You are here, from somewhere else. That makes you an Alien. You are doing so illegally. That makes it.... illegal.

Documents and living arrangements have precisely zero to do with it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (VoAdT)
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The Left loves to introduce new more sanguine terms for noxious people and practices. "Unhoused" or "experiencing homelessness" for "vagrant." "Gay" for "homosexual." "Undocumented migrant" for "illegal alien."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (YqDXo)

60 Commissar Judges Brown and Sotomayor will never vote for anything President Trump wants to do

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (ypFCm)

61 Kunta Kinte Brown Jackson is a fine example of why affirmative action is a national disgrace. It's all fun, games and Dr.Feelgood until her zookeepers let her out of her cage to vote.

Posted by: Zombie Koko The Talking Gorilla at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (R/m4+)

62 But I thought the Trump tariffs destroyed the economy?

Posted by: steevy at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (YwEeS)
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They did, but it got better.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (YqDXo)

63 What I will probably never understand is how anyone had "standing" to litigate on behalf of illegals but literally nobody in the country had "standing," in any court including SCOTUS, to litigate on behalf of American citizens regarding the 2020 election.

Posted by: Peaches at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (14URa)

64 Little by little, Trump is winning the legal challenges and establishing his presidential power. Yes, there were setbacks and will be setbacks. But as far as I know, there hasn't been a definitive decision on the merits blocking anything Trump did. Most of the bullshit TROs have been rolled back.

Unlike some people here, I think Trump should keep doing this. I get the impulse to say "fuck these judges, Trump should just do whatever he wants to do, up to and including feeding judges to Florida alligators." But that could backfire. So long as Trump is mostly winning, he should stay the course. You don't drop the nuke unless you absolutely have to.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

65 Dump a pile of superfine sugar on the bench and let Sotomayor go full Tony Montana.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (2ap+5)

66 Just got here so I don't know anything but car radio said that the most important thing occupying the Senate and House is investigating Biden's cognizant decline.

I hope the radio is FOS.

That sounds like e's speed. Let's investigate the obvious while screwing up the President's agenda.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:37 PM (85azL)

67
How can the economy be that good if Red Lobster is in trouble? Huh? HUH? Those cheddar bay biscuits are what our economy is built on!

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (IifOV)

68 Right, every time they rule like this instead of stomping on the previous ruling and vacating it with prejudice, they are reinforcing the idea that the president acts only with the permission of the judicial department.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:35 PM (2VST1)

And I wish Trump would use some of that bombast he's famous for, and blast the judges who rule over him.

He seems to do that when it's personal, but not when they're overruling his E.O.'s.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (dGCAG)

69 CNBC: Personal income increased 0.8% in April — "almost TRIPLE the expectations."
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Don't you love economic expectations? This is another area where we'd do better asking those playing in pre-K sandboxes.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (od0dV)
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Economists like to style economics as a "science." It isn't one; it's a joke. You could better with a magic 8-ball, or a ouija board

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (YqDXo)

70 > 43 ace, we need a nickname for that lady along the lines of Ruth Bader-Meinhoff and Latrine John-Pissoir. You are the king at this sort of thing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (n7rxJ)

I thought "Affirmative Action Jackson" was already in the style guide....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (VoAdT)

I llike Ketanjello. Maybe with some unnecessary apostrophes in it. K'etan'jello.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (qpyNK)

71 Shouldn't we all be sending boxes of chocolates to the Wide Latina?

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (od0dV)

72 When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean...

Trump has pulled the curtain back and the feckless gop could have been doing this the whole time but they never wanted to. They're in on it.
Posted by: CaliGirl

The question is, which is to be master -- that’s all.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (x99pR)

73 CNBC > NBC?

Posted by: Max Power at May 30, 2025 02:34 PM (q177U)

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CNBC > NBC > MS-13-NBC

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (nJznc)

74 Yeah Kagan is a leftist crank but she's not as idiotic and driven by straight party line obedience like the other two. I mean she's reliably wrong but she's not brainless about it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:39 PM (2VST1)

75 >> You don't drop the nuke unless you absolutely have to.

Pansy.

Posted by: Curtis LeMay at May 30, 2025 02:39 PM (yd2/I)

76 That sounds like e's speed. Let's investigate the obvious while screwing up the President's agenda.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:37 PM (85azL)

Well, actually, that helps Trump. Those 8,000 pardons are in question thanks to President Auto Pen.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:39 PM (gKDq2)

77 But that could backfire. So long as Trump is mostly winning, he should stay the course. You don't drop the nuke unless you absolutely have to.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

What i like most about it as a strategy is that it's passive.

Let their own weight break them. Let their own imbalance topple them. They are the ones in the unstable, untenable position. They have no choice but to continue doubling down for as long as Trump is willing to "play their game". It's already bearing fruit. They're becoming a punchline even to normies. That's never a good thing to be.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:39 PM (VoAdT)

78 Yeah, "standing." Ask California voters about "standing" before a queer federal judge striking down Proposition 8 defining marriage as between one man and one woman. "Standing." Right up there with, "Its a tax," and "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor."

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 30, 2025 02:40 PM (QSrLX)

79 ***Not related but I have to put it somewhere: The economy is cooking.
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Saw reports from disparate sources saying that Powell cannot dodge Trump now. He has no excuse. Meanwhile employment's up, wages are up and prices are down. God, please look down upon the e's and help them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:40 PM (85azL)

80 Unlike some people here, I think Trump should keep doing this. I get the impulse to say "fuck these judges, Trump should just do whatever he wants to do, up to and including feeding judges to Florida alligators." But that could backfire. So long as Trump is mostly winning, he should stay the course. You don't drop the nuke unless you absolutely have to.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)
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I agree. Ignoring the judges entirely is probably what the Reds want: to vitiate the rule of law, and set the precedent of ignoring it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:40 PM (YqDXo)

81 What I will probably never understand is how anyone had "standing" to litigate on behalf of illegals but literally nobody in the country had "standing," in any court including SCOTUS, to litigate on behalf of American citizens regarding the 2020 election.

Standing is basically secret judge code for "I don't want to rule on this"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:40 PM (2VST1)

82
Support the illegal aliens. Take the money from that that would otherwise be given to the blacks. Watch the fur fly then!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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Alternatively, relocate them to Colorado and make them aware that they will now be paying for white people's sex changes -- AND that their kids will be subjected to proper instruction in these matters and forced to say "ella" and "el" in accordance with their tranny teachers' and classmates' preferences.

By the way, does a monolingual Spanish speaker get out of that pronoun requirement? It just occurred to me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:40 PM (n7rxJ)

83 > Pansy.
Posted by: Curtis LeMay at May 30, 2025 02:39 PM (yd2/I)

You never want LeMay deciding if you go to war, but if you do, you want him in the lead plane..

Posted by: John Fitzgerald Kennedy at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (qpyNK)

84 ace, we need a nickname for that lady along the lines of Ruth Bader-Meinhoff and Latrine John-Pissoir. You are the king at this sort of thing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (n7rxJ)

I thought "Affirmative Action Jackson" was already in the style guide....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:33 PM (VoAdT)

I llike Ketanjello. Maybe with some unnecessary apostrophes in it. K'etan'jello.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (qpyNK)
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Jumanji

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

85
If Trump gets to pick another Supreme Court Judge if Sotomayor croaks the epic meltdown will be so epic. Somebody get her some crispy cremes.

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (IifOV)

86 We're just finally getting over the last time there was a black eye in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Roy at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (qwype)

87 > I mean she's reliably wrong but she's not brainless about it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:39 PM (2VST1)

She's probably the closest to Bader-Meinhoff on the current court. A communist, yes, but not a brutally stupid communist.

Posted by: John Fitzgerald Kennedy at May 30, 2025 02:42 PM (qpyNK)

88 CaliGirl it's a massive and universal problem that goes back years. It's really part of the same general disaster as accepting a false framework/false premises when discussing any issue.

Chicken/egg whether this is all the cause or symptom of a generally low level of capacity to think rationally or logically.

"Undocumented migrant" has no legal meaning (DHS under the vile vegetable tried to make it a thing, force use of the term internally). Every time it is mentioned it should be nuked, as doing that allows you to review/explain legal and practical reality.

One more thing: Miller and others might want to start adding, every single time they discuss the general border/immigration issue, that criminal illegals are a small % of the problem, a priority for obvious reasons, and that *all* people here illegally need to go.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (1m82a)

89 Illegal alien is a correct legal term. That's why Trump is using the Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal aliens. The law has been on the books for over 200 years.

Leftists love to attempt to change reality by changing the words that are used. They don't want us to use sex to define men and women, they demand we use gender which means anything they want it to mean.

So illegal aliens become undocumented migrants. It's a bullshit word game to try and obscure reality.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (viF8m)

90 Maybe Bongino can start in the Seattle Mayor's office.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (W/lyH)

91 If Trump gets to pick another Supreme Court Judge if Sotomayor croaks the epic meltdown will be so epic. Somebody get her some crispy cremes.
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (IifOV)

I'd laugh hard enough to hurt if someone managed to get Ketanji to sign a resignation letter, with plenty of witnesses that she did it voluntarily, with plenty of time to read it first.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (VNX3d)

92 Jumanji

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (iFTx/)
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That's the one I favor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:44 PM (YqDXo)

93 We're just finally getting over the last time there was a black eye in the Oval Office.
Posted by: Roy at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (qwype)

Listen, fat, I frequently had a brown eye in the Oval Office. Jill would have to clean me up with wet wipes, but she’d usually get one of the Secret Service idiots to do it. My word as a Biden!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 30, 2025 02:44 PM (yd2/I)

94 There's going to be a live-action film based on the Legend of Zelda series of video games.

Zelda is going to be played by a tranny.

Because of course she is.

Posted by: John Fitzgerald Kennedy at May 30, 2025 02:45 PM (qpyNK)

95 I'd laugh hard enough to hurt if someone managed to get Ketanji to sign a resignation letter, with plenty of witnesses that she did it voluntarily, with plenty of time to read it first.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (VNX3d)
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Time to repurpose the autopen.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:45 PM (YqDXo)

96 I seriously tried to read and understand what Sotomayor and Kentajidiot wrote. But I think I just lost 30 points off my IQ.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 30, 2025 02:45 PM (WgtUE)

97 80 Unlike some people here, I think Trump should keep doing this. I get the impulse to say "fuck these judges, Trump should just do whatever he wants to do, up to and including feeding judges to Florida alligators." But that could backfire. So long as Trump is mostly winning, he should stay the course. You don't drop the nuke unless you absolutely have to.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)
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I agree. Ignoring the judges entirely is probably what the Reds want: to vitiate the rule of law, and set the precedent of ignoring it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yup, as rough as it is, the team is moving the ball forward and keeps getting first down. It's not beautiful like Stabler passing to Biletnikoff, it's more like Campbell or Brown bashing their way three yards at a time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:45 PM (85azL)

98 Quick reminder: Paul Ryan vocally supported KBJ for SCOTUS, and even claimed kinship in doing so.

Scumbag.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (v2IpS)

99 Elon just said at the press conference that his son X punched him in the eye after they were playing around.
Elon jokingly told his son to punch him and he did.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (NpAcC)

100 > So illegal aliens become undocumented migrants.

I've even seen "undocumented probationary citizen" somewhere, I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (qpyNK)

101 How can the economy be that good if Red Lobster is in trouble? Huh? HUH? Those cheddar bay biscuits are what our economy is built on!

Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2025 02:38 PM (IifOV)

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"Donald Trump Killed The Radio Shack ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (r2huA)

102
Anyway, I'm loving this and wondering what the next step is. Of course Kristi Noem is advising the New, Improved CBPOne that helps you self-deport (hilarious that Fox News is the only station carrying that PSA as far as I can tell, as if...) but I'm curious about mass raids. Something happened in Boston today/yesterday? How many were picked up? I hope the disappearance of nannies, gardeners, and dishwashers discourages the others. It sounds harsh, but fvck, don't break the fvcking law ffs.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (n7rxJ)

103 Didn't Robin Williams star in a movie bio-pic about Justice Brown' childhood?

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (pMi6S)

104 that criminal illegals are a small % of the problem, a priority for obvious reasons, and that *all* people here illegally need to go.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (1m82a)
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All the people who are here illegally ARE criminals. By definition.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

105 Bono was on Joe Rogan, I'm sure Joe did his best to make Bono likable but he's eternally a pretentious putz to most of the world. Even when I was a big fan in the 80s I wished he would just shut up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (2VST1)

106 > So illegal aliens become undocumented migrants.

I've even seen "undocumented probationary citizen" somewhere, I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (qpyNK)

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I was always partial to "Undocumented Democrat Voter."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:47 PM (r2huA)

107 91 If Trump gets to pick another Supreme Court Judge if Sotomayor croaks the epic meltdown will be so epic. Somebody get her some crispy cremes.
Posted by: Frank Barone at May 30, 2025 02:41 PM (IifOV)

I'd laugh hard enough to hurt if someone managed to get Ketanji to sign a resignation letter, with plenty of witnesses that she did it voluntarily, with plenty of time to read it first.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:43 PM (VNX3d)
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Sounds like a job for Luca Brasi.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 02:47 PM (od0dV)

108 >>I agree. Ignoring the judges entirely is probably what the Reds want: to vitiate the rule of law, and set the precedent of ignoring it.

Not to mention impeaching him because of course they would.

Trump hasn't lost anything yet other than a little time and he's setting valuable precedent by fighting and winning.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 02:47 PM (viF8m)

109 > So illegal aliens become undocumented migrants.

I've even seen "undocumented probationary citizen" somewhere, I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (qpyNK)
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Too many syllables. I favor "wetback."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:47 PM (YqDXo)

110 It's a tactical question of course - when/if to repudiate the lawless judiciary.

At some point the repercussions of judicial lawlessness and usurpation roughly equal the potential consequences of repudiation. Judgement call.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 02:48 PM (1m82a)

111 Jumanji

But I liked the first movie!

Elon jokingly told his son to punch him and he did.

This sounds entirely plausible. Kids will do that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:48 PM (2VST1)

112 Yeah, it’s funny how a Republican EO cannot cancel a Democrat EO. That happened in Trump’s first term as well. Thou shalt not undo the lightworker’s efforts.

I also remember Trump exercising executive authority where a court ruled against him stating that the law he was using did indeed grant the president the authority to make that decision, but it was reversed because he did it for the wrong reason.

Posted by: Advo at May 30, 2025 02:48 PM (jO4mz)

113 So can they be deported immediately or do they all need a court hearing? Cuz didnt scotus say that before? It was that only for certain illegals? This is why everyone hates lawyers.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (HmCtv)

114 >>>Leftists love to attempt to change reality by changing the words that are used. They don't want us to use sex to define men and women, they demand we use gender which means anything they want it to mean.
,,,

Posted by: JackStraw
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I like sex. Sex is good it makes me a jolly fellow.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (85azL)

115 Unlike some people here, I think Trump should keep doing this. I get the impulse to say "fuck these judges, Trump should just do whatever he wants to do, up to and including feeding judges to Florida alligators." But that could backfire. So long as Trump is mostly winning, he should stay the course. You don't drop the nuke unless you absolutely have to.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)
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I agree. Ignoring the judges entirely is probably what the Reds want: to vitiate the rule of law, and set the precedent of ignoring it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Yup, as rough as it is, the team is moving the ball forward and keeps getting first down. It's not beautiful like Stabler passing to Biletnikoff, it's more like Campbell or Brown bashing their way three yards at a time.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:45 PM (85azL)
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Yes, and Trump is passively-aggressively ignoring the courts when he can get away with it. "You want me to return that Kilmar scumbag? I'd love to help ya, he's already on a plane. Habeas in DC for Gangbanger A? So sorry, he's been moved to Texas."

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (iFTx/)

116 Kagan voted with the conservatives, 7-2 decision??! Old "Balls and Strikes" Roberts continues to forego established immigration precedent? Chickenshit spineless weasel. And his harridan wife too.

Does this mean that Cubans in Florida will cease being slavishly loyal to the GOP? Probably not but interesting to contemplate.

Obama ended the "wet foot, dry foot" policy in 2017. Maybe that's why they voted the way they did.

these people are here LEGALLY, but the corrupt majority defiling the Supreme Court, plus one supposed Liberal, tell Trump, "We don't care how many laws you break, or what a despicable excuse for a human being you are, or that "for now" doesn't mean shit when these folks are rounded up and shipped to El Salvador while we play with ourselves."

I hate these fuckin' people.

plus the fact that migrants are a temporary work force, mostly agricultural. Migrant workers have no intention, or need, to settle here permanently. They come for the picking season and then they go back home. They do nothing illegal while they're here. Sometimes their children get free education in our public schools, but even that's not a regular thing anymore

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (JCZqz)

117 Didn't Robin Williams star in a movie bio-pic about Justice Brown' childhood?

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (pMi6S)

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Creature from the Crack Lagoon?

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (PHATe)

118 Trump hasn't lost anything yet other than a little time and he's setting valuable precedent by fighting and winning.

Yeah. I get the desire for Trump to nuke the courts and get it all done tomorrow but this stuff takes time and we have to be patient, they're really doing it differently this time. Remember the first term, when a Hawaiian judge made a ruling, he'd just roll over on his back paws up. Not so any more. They have a team of ace lawyers scrambling within minutes and fighting back.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (2VST1)

119 I was always partial to "Undocumented Democrat Voter."
Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 02:47 PM (r2huA)

Probationary Democrat.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (yd2/I)

120 Let’s call them what they really are. Democrat Voters

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:50 PM (HmCtv)

121 Trump blasted the Federalist Society and that dickhead Leonard Leo today. I guess he finally figure out he got snookered on the left wing socialist ACB.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (KEvf9)

122 Yeah, "standing." Ask California voters about "standing" before a queer federal judge striking down Proposition 8 defining marriage as between one man and one woman.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 30, 2025 02:40 PM (QSrLX)
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That was an outrage. The fruit judge clearly had a conflict, and should have recused himself.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (YqDXo)

123 113 So can they be deported immediately or do they all need a court hearing? Cuz didnt scotus say that before? It was that only for certain illegals? This is why everyone hates lawyers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (HmCtv)

Most of them have multiple deportation orders.. they should immediately get the boot.. I said "should."

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (VE6XX)

124
OT, but I hear Scott Adams's beloved dog died. Man, if that isn't a "Sir, here's the door out, you can go."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (n7rxJ)

125 plus the fact that migrants are a temporary work force, mostly agricultural. Migrant workers have no intention, or need, to settle here permanently. They come for the picking season and then they go back home. They do nothing illegal while they're here. Sometimes their children get free education in our public schools, but even that's not a regular thing anymore
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (JCZqz)

Come on this can’t be real. Nobody - even at DU - is this out of touch with reality.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (HmCtv)

126 115 Yes, and Trump is passively-aggressively ignoring the courts when he can get away with it. "You want me to return that Kilmar scumbag? I'd love to help ya, he's already on a plane. Habeas in DC for Gangbanger A? So sorry, he's been moved to Texas."
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (iFTx/)

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A combination of malicious compliance and just outright...non-compliance.

How many fired federal workers have been given their badges back and allowed back in the building? None.

Delay for three days while the appeals process starts, get a stay, and move on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

127 > All the people who are here illegally ARE criminals. By definition.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:46 PM (YqDXo)

Yep. Some try to conflate illegal entry with not jumping through through some bureaucratic hoop (not renewing your visa on time or whatever). Those are civil infractions, which may result in a fine and/or deportation, but generally not jail time.

Illegal entry, however, is a crime.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (qpyNK)

128 Think about this. Democrats stole the 2020 election which enabled them to put Jackson on the court. Imagine if we had that pick.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (KEvf9)

129 This SCOTUS is to facilitate repealing Trump's EOs by future regimes. The Boobsie Twins dissented to make it look like something else.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (wBaIH)

130 116 these people are here LEGALLY, but the corrupt majority defiling the Supreme Court, plus one supposed Liberal, tell Trump, "We don't care how many laws you break, or what a despicable excuse for a human being you are, or that "for now" doesn't mean shit when these folks are rounded up and shipped to El Salvador while we play with ourselves."

I hate these fuckin' people.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (JCZqz)

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So...a temporary visa means permanent residency?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

131 Biden Revision News - Unexpectedly Down

Trump Revision News - Unexpectedly Up

Womp Womp, CNN

Posted by: jsg at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (4V/uj)

132 Rick Santelli made it on the board with ace.
The great Santelli.
His rant is the rant that lit the fuse of the Tea Party.

The Great Rick Santelli.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (85azL)

133 these people are here LEGALLY
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Huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

134 It's not beautiful like Stabler passing to Biletnikoff, it's more like Campbell or Brown bashing their way three yards at a time.
Posted by: Braenyard

More like John Riggins who told Sandra Dee O'Connor to loosen up.

Posted by: The Diesel at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (KAi1n)

135 When will someone publicly ask why John Roberts has held private, week-long meetings with Trump-hating Lawfare architect Norm Eisen in a secure diplomatic compound in the Czech Republic?

What matters were Roberts and Eisen discussing?

How does this not constitute an illegal ex parte communication?

Do any other Supreme Court Justices leave the country to meet with America-hating Leftists about matters before the court?

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (X+xvk)

136 plus the fact that migrants are a temporary work force, mostly agricultural. Migrant workers have no intention, or need, to settle here permanently. They come for the picking season and then they go back home.

I mean... this is true, and its been going on a century or so but what the hell does that have to do with the subject? Nothing Trump is doing has anything to do with migrant workers.

By the way, Oregon defies this guy's ideas. One year the harvest was terrible and there wasn't much work. So the governor of Oregon (cannot remember who, a Democrat) ruled that they could all just stay in Oregon, on welfare, and had homes built for them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (2VST1)

137 So...a temporary visa means permanent residency?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)
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It's like a "temporary" tax.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (YqDXo)

138 So can they be deported immediately or do they all need a court hearing? Cuz didnt scotus say that before? It was that only for certain illegals? This is why everyone hates lawyers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:49 PM (HmCtv)

Most of them have multiple deportation orders.. they should immediately get the boot.. I said "should."
Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (VE6XX)
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They don't need to have court hearings. They do need some kind of notice before they can be deported under the Alien Enemies Act. How much notice is an open question.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (iFTx/)

139 129 This SCOTUS is to facilitate repealing Trump's EOs by future regimes. The Boobsie Twins dissented to make it look like something else.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (wBaIH)

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This is fucking stupid.

Biden repealed everything day 1.

There is no conspiracy to make it easier for the next Democrat. They already do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (GBKbO)

140 133 these people are here LEGALLY
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Huh?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (YqDXo)

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It's true.

They're here legally until the parole ends...in about 28 days. Then they'll be here illegally.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:54 PM (GBKbO)

141 Apparently this is controversial -- Democrat EOs have More Constitutional Power than Republican ones, but the Supreme Court will allow a Republican EO to cancel a Democrat one just this once.
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This tells it. Judges have become a class with an interest to protect.

Fuckin' judges.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 02:54 PM (HcfrK)

142 So...a temporary visa means permanent residency?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (GBKbO)

Milenials turned the word literally to mean figuratively. Maybe they did the same with temporary and permanent.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:54 PM (HmCtv)

143 Entering illegally or over-staying a visa are not criminal violations like assault or robbery. A whole set of different procedures and even administrative courts apply to these violations.

Re-entering after previous deportation is a federal felony.

My sort of obvious point is that while initial focus/priority of dangerous violent criminals is clearly the right call, the larger enterprise - trying to empty the country of *everyone* here without status - requires minding the politix and social vibe, and as you move onto non-criminal illegals, the politix can change a bit.

Deporting the hard-working, friendly, law-abiding (apart from immigration status) guy who lives down the street is not the duh-slam-dunk-yeah-do-it action - emotionally - as booting the child-molester. Just think setting the framework so the idiots don't get to establish their typical false one could help. The public needs to remember/be edumucated that *all* illegals need to go.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 02:54 PM (1m82a)

144 Think about this. Democrats stole the 2020 election which enabled them to put Jackson on the court. Imagine if we had that pick.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (KEvf9)

Yeah, we’d have another ACB! 🥳

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:54 PM (yd2/I)

145 Trump gets more honey if he let's SCROTUS teabag him

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 30, 2025 02:55 PM (IMBHk)

146 They don't need to have court hearings. They do need some kind of notice before they can be deported under the Alien Enemies Act. How much notice is an open question.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (iFTx/)

There have been so many rulings it’s hard to keep up. But I thought in addition to what you said, there was another ruling that said illegals had to have a court hearing. Maybe I’m mixing things up.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (HmCtv)

147 124
OT, but I hear Scott Adams's beloved dog died. Man, if that isn't a "Sir, here's the door out, you can go."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (n7rxJ)

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I hope we all get to go out like clocks someone neglected to rewind. tick tock, tick ... tock, tick .... .... tock

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (2ap+5)

148
these people are here LEGALLY,

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

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And this is where we stop reading. I get it. They're here LEGALLY because Joe said "In defiance of US law, I pronounce you legal." That seems like something that's easily undone by a subsequent pronunciation...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (n7rxJ)

149 146 There have been so many rulings it’s hard to keep up. But I thought in addition to what you said, there was another ruling that said illegals had to have a court hearing. Maybe I’m mixing things up.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (HmCtv)

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At best, they get hearings before an IJ where they are given a chance to present evidence of legal residency.

The hearing lasts, maybe, five minutes.

It's not a trial.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (GBKbO)

150 >>>121 Trump blasted the Federalist Society and that dickhead Leonard Leo today. I guess he finally figure out he got snookered on the left wing socialist ACB.
Posted by: Marcus T
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It's like UpChuck said, DeepState (e) has so many ways to F you up; You don't want to mess with them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (85azL)

151 Yeah, having another "Republican" on the Supreme Court is about as useful as having John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell on your side....

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 02:57 PM (X+xvk)

152 I find it amazing that the Supreme Court would not stop the blatant Rights violations during Covid... would not even hear the cases, because it was a National Emergency declared by the President...

But now? Border has been declared a National Emergency and Invasion... Courts intervene constantly.

Economy has been declared an Emergency, so Trump is using powers granted to him, by Congress, to set tariffs in case of an emergency.

Hell, Courts are even stopping the Executive Branch from AUDITING ITSELF.

The Supremes only want to intervene if it is about Foreigners and Foreign interests, NOT when there are very blatant Civil Rights cases involving actual citizens.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2025 02:57 PM (mP0Kj)

153 >>these people are here LEGALLY

Not anymore, sugar tits. Their visas have been revoked.

They've been here 4 year now. They go home.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (viF8m)

154 The Supreme Court Has Deigned to Allow Trump to Be President On a Case-by-Case Basis
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Trump: "Can I be President now for a while? Thanks very much."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (YqDXo)

155 Rick Santelli made it on the board with ace.
The great Santelli.
His rant is the rant that lit the fuse of the Tea Party.

The Great Rick Santelli.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 02:52 PM (85azL)
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The name for a new Republican-exit party as the "Tea Party" was already being tossed around when Santelli made that speech.

My guess is that at least 3 or 4 months before.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (HcfrK)

156 Santelli's not just a great financial reporter and clearly right-minded overall, I have a friend whom he helped and and who has stories of others he's helped (basically new/green financial reporters) - he's been a mentor and friend to many and a very nice guy. So there's that.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (1m82a)

157 One of the reasons the left is really upset about this is that the Biden administration expanded a law that let him give illegals temporary legal status as "refugees" no matter their circumstances, and they used that to legally protect tens of thousands of illegals, and move them around to hide them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (2VST1)

158 153 >>these people are here LEGALLY

Not anymore, sugar tits. Their visas have been revoked.

They've been here 4 year now. They go home.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (viF8m)

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They still are here legally. Until the notice that the parole is over runs out. About 28 days.

Then they're here illegally.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

159 > 143 Entering illegally or over-staying a visa are not criminal violations like assault or robbery.

Overstaying a visa is a civil infraction, yes, but
entering illegally is absolutely a crime.

8 U.S. Code § 1325:

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (qpyNK)

160 Re: ace's previous post: "Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money?"

You could also say they are Trans-Cons (i.e. fake comservatives) who couldn't compete with fellow liberals.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (36PRH)

161 151 Yeah, having another "Republican" on the Supreme Court is about as useful as having John Cornyn and Mitch McConnell on your side....
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 02:57 PM (X+xvk)

I will admit its an 'I told you so for years' kind of moment, with how Bitch McConnel is acting now...

He let his mask drop.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (mP0Kj)

162 67
How can the economy be that good if Red Lobster is in trouble? Huh? HUH? Those cheddar bay biscuits are what our economy is built on!
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All you can eat shrimp is a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (n17eQ)

163 I remember when I was young and idealistic and thought the Tea Party would actually reform the GOP and save us from Obama’s anti-white gay communism.

Sigh.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (yd2/I)

164 Rick Santelli is the godfather of the tea party movement. It was his rant that started it all.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (HmCtv)

165 They don't need to have court hearings. They do need some kind of notice before they can be deported under the Alien Enemies Act. How much notice is an open question.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (iFTx/)

There have been so many rulings it’s hard to keep up. But I thought in addition to what you said, there was another ruling that said illegals had to have a court hearing. Maybe I’m mixing things up.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:56 PM (HmCtv)
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It all depends on what mechanism is used to fling their filthy asses back over the border. Trump is going after the low-hanging fruit first -- gangbangers and criminals that have already had their day in court, like Kilmar, and were judged deportable. Keep in mind that not even Trump is saying illegals get no process at all before getting launched. He's not saying he can grab up randos in the middle of the night, declare them illegal, and put them up against a wall. They must get some process, at some point. The big question is when and how much.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

166 Rick Santelli made it on the board with ace.
The great Santelli.
His rant is the rant that lit the fuse of the Tea Party.

The Great Rick Santelli.

I remember that, he started a movement when the country was afraid to criticize Shit Midas

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2025 03:00 PM (dCxaZ)

167 160 Re: ace's previous post: "Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money?"

You could also say they are Trans-Cons (i.e. fake comservatives) who couldn't compete with fellow liberals.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (36PRH)

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My recollection of the history of neocons is that they are called neocons because they were new conservatives...new about the time of Reagan.

They largely turned "conservative" over the fall of the Soviet Union without every changing any opinions on any issue. So, they're 1980s Democrats, at best.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)

168 And this is where we stop reading. I get it. They're here LEGALLY because Joe said "In defiance of US law, I pronounce you legal." That seems like something that's easily undone by a subsequent pronunciation...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:56

And what kills me is Europe is doing the same thing for the same reasons and it's high time someone everyone keeps speaking truth to power. And again, thank you Elon.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 03:00 PM (mxvzO)

169 >>> Ketanji Brown Jackson:

"it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (n7rxJ)

It is a scatological truth that the validations of the perineum adjudicators cannot consummate legal frottage!

Posted by: Oswald Bates at May 30, 2025 03:00 PM (cduTK)

170 Red Lobster finally collapsing is one of the signs that God loves us

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (2VST1)

171 There really needs to be some clarity on the separation of powers and how things work here. Its gotten so muddled and messed up with judges being absolutely imperial. Judges were never meant to be the final word on all topics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (2VST1)

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Almost the entire modern function of the federal judiciary is a violation of separation of powers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

Must have a limited number of judgements overturned without censure or removal. Since they are supposed to be following actual statutes and laws and not making shit up, another judge should be able to follow the reasoning. If not, the judge should be removed for wasting everyone's time.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (8avO+)

172 >> Keep in mind that not even Trump is saying illegals get no process at all before getting launched. He's not saying he can grab up randos in the middle of the night, declare them illegal, and put them up against a wall. They must get some process, at some point.

Yeah, Trump’s a moderate on the whole immigration thing.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (yd2/I)

173 >>They still are here legally. Until the notice that the parole is over runs out. About 28 days.

You forgot to say axshully.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (viF8m)

174 Rick Santelli is the godfather of the tea party movement. It was his rant that started it all.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (HmCtv)
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It was not.

I remember the day that people said "Turn your TV on" for that speech.

"Tea Party" as a name pre-existed that speech.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (HcfrK)

175 Yea but Trump lied to are Black President and the Supreme Court should find him guilty of Racism, and we all know his Breath stinks Too !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimeline at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (WYJMU)

176 173 >>They still are here legally. Until the notice that the parole is over runs out. About 28 days.

You forgot to say axshully.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (viF8m)

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In all fairness, it was implied.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (GBKbO)

177 ---
The name for a new Republican-exit party as the "Tea Party" was already being tossed around when Santelli made that speech.

My guess is that at least 3 or 4 months before.
Posted by: Axeman
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He lit the fuse.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (85azL)

178 Re: ace's previous post: "Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money?"

You could also say they are Trans-Cons (i.e. fake comservatives) who couldn't compete with fellow liberals.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 30, 2025 02:58 PM (36PRH)

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My recollection of the history of neocons is that they are called neocons because they were new conservatives...new about the time of Reagan.

They largely turned "conservative" over the fall of the Soviet Union without every changing any opinions on any issue. So, they're 1980s Democrats, at best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)
_________

I never trusted the neococks. That mistrust was very very much warranted.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

179 They can also be 'resident alien(s)' - like the series - if they satisfy days in country. Who can't fake that? 🤫

Time to be out with some old Treasury rules, in with some new. (And not by Executive Order.).

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Santelli's another good guy. He has to have quite a following given some of his well justified rants on in CNBC over the years.

And it's no secret I'd adopt Steven Miller & his family.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (NFX2v)

180 It still might not stop some less Commissar Judge to say President Trump can't do something.

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (ypFCm)

181 Remember Ketanji Brown Jackson was recommended by Paul Ryan.
Posted by: redridinghood

Remember when he flounced like a spastic kid because Trump got elected? What a fag.

Posted by: weft-cut loop at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (mlg/3)

182 They seem to never be able to find some nuances to change the laws

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 03:03 PM (ypFCm)

183 They don't need to have court hearings. They do need some kind of notice before they can be deported under the Alien Enemies Act. How much notice is an open question.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:53 PM (iFTx/)
_____________

"By the way, those two burly ICE agents are here to deport your ass. You've just been notified."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 03:03 PM (YqDXo)

184 169 >>> Ketanji Brown Jackson:

"it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

Hey Jumanji.... Key word here is NONCITIZENS What part of that don't you understand ? Oh never mind...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2025 03:03 PM (VE6XX)

185 The next Democrat will ignore every single court order they don't like - if there are any - you can bank on that with your very last penny.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:03 PM (Dz1R2)

186 So Trump gets to be President on Fridays.

Cool.

Posted by: Rando Calrissian at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (uTp11)

187 185 The next Democrat will ignore every single court order they don't like - if there are any - you can bank on that with your very last penny.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:03 PM (Dz1R2)

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Biden kind of already did. It's not new.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

188 Hercules only had the clean-out the Augean Stables. Trump is attempting to clean-out all the stables in DC. Each filled with enough manure to sink a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. If I am ever fortunate enough to meet PDT, I'd get tongue-tied attempting to thank him for a hundred things in 10 seconds.

Posted by: Gref at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (aBgBM)

189 The wisdom of Mr. Oswald Bates:

youtu.be/_Nm5kkacWl0

Posted by: banana Dream at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (cduTK)

190 The original group that favored the name Tea Party was a group of conservative voters who shared the idea that the Republican party had failed them, and was likely going to keep on failing them.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (HcfrK)

191 The deep state is going to deep state us forever. We don't have a country anymore. May as well face it.

Posted by: Case at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (a1g6Z)

192 191 The deep state is going to deep state us forever. We don't have a country anymore. May as well face it.
Posted by: Case at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (a1g6Z)

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Guess I'll go kill myself, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

193 Thanks TJM for filling gaps here on what is understandably a confusing situation.

And Blonde M., that's exactly it - the previous administration massively abused existing procedures and laws to pour unvetted undeserving people into the country. They even started flying them in (astonishing) primarily to 1) speed up the invasion 2) reduce the horrendous border-crossing/BP numbers.

Just as with the judiciary - which is a disaster, systemically, and not just because of "liberal" or "conservative" judges - our system has no mechanism to deal with bad faith by any of the actors. Sure, there is a great built-in protection - Congress and its power of the purse. But since Congress has basically disappeared as a player for a few decades, there is no check and balance.

So while most people think a well designed system has built-in protections, they generally don't. The constitution isn't self-enforcing - nor are laws, as we have seen. It takes will and use of existing authority to check abuses. Congress has disappeared (because voters have allowed it to), and the judiciary is just an unelected capricious super-legislature with mediocre and reckless personnel.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (1m82a)

194 He's not saying he can grab up randos in the middle of the night, declare them illegal, and put them up against a wall. They must get some process, at some point. The big question is when and how much.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

Hasn’t this always been the case though? Either Trump is doing things way differently or courts are coming up with new rules that did t exist 2 minutes ago. I’m kinda thinking the latter.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (HmCtv)

195 >> My recollection of the history of neocons is that they are called neocons because they were new conservatives...new about the time of Reagan.

They were corporatist Democrats who supported the Vietnam war and moved to the GOP in the 70s, as at that time it was the party more open to rule by the MIC and Wall Street.

Now that the MIC and Wall Street and corporate America have moved to the left on many issues the neocons have returned to the donkey party.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (yd2/I)

196 So Trump gets to be President on Fridays.

Cool.
Posted by: Rando Calrissian at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (uTp11)

Friday's a slow news day. Trump will get a lot more shit done.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (gKDq2)

197 >>"it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

Having 20 million illegal invaders occupy this country gave the actual citizens a bit of heartburn, too.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (viF8m)

198 192 191 The deep state is going to deep state us forever. We don't have a country anymore. May as well face it.
Posted by: Case at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (a1g6Z)

F' that.. I'm taking it back

Posted by: It's me donna at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (VE6XX)

199 "it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

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So, we'd better watch out for war actions as well.

They have been known to mess with noncitizens' lives.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:06 PM (HcfrK)

200 It's not about the term "Tea Party". Santelli was the first relatively high-profile media figure to spontaneously vent what millions were thinking. It was out of his lane in his job. That's what makes it interesting and important.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 03:06 PM (1m82a)

201 My recollection of the history of neocons is that they are called neocons because they were new conservatives...new about the time of Reagan.

They largely turned "conservative" over the fall of the Soviet Union without every changing any opinions on any issue. So, they're 1980s Democrats, at best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:00 PM (GBKbO)

I think they were junior staffers in the Cold War era, absorbing the mechanics but not the ideology of fighting Communism. As you say on both sides, tho early on many fled into the GOPe because nutty liberalism was repellant and the GOP had most of the jobs. But peeps like Vic Neuland. But being underlings they were more flexible about parties and became the core of todays deep state.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:06 PM (8avO+)

202 The entire illegal immigrant thing is a perfect example of the excess of empathy that dominates culture, the feminization of policy.

"oh, I would want to leave those awful places and come to America too, they have dreams of succeeding, how can we turn them away, that's just mean!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (2VST1)

203 I remember the day that people said "Turn your TV on" for that speech.

"Tea Party" as a name pre-existed that speech.
Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (HcfrK)

It may well have. But his speech is what got it going. It was the spark. Think Elon buying Tesla. Company existed before, Elon made it into what it became.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (HmCtv)

204
And it's no secret I'd adopt Steven Miller & his family.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (NFX2v)

I low key want him to yell at me like I'm a MSNBC stooge.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (mxvzO)

205 There was a cobweb festooned corner of my brain that hoped for Harris to win an obviously fraudulent election. That would have been fun.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (2ap+5)

206 When armed foreign invaders set foot on American shores and build camps and fortifications, we can't mess with their lives and retake occupied land.

Because that would upend what non-citizens are trying to do with their life.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (HcfrK)

207 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (viF8m)

208 102
Anyway, I'm loving this and wondering what the next step is. Of course Kristi Noem is advising the New, Improved CBPOne that helps you self-deport (hilarious that Fox News is the only station carrying that PSA as far as I can tell, as if...) but I'm curious about mass raids. Something happened in Boston today/yesterday? How many were picked up? I hope the disappearance of nannies, gardeners, and dishwashers discourages the others. It sounds harsh, but fvck, don't break the fvcking law ffs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Local news stations IN SEATTLE are playing Noem’s PSA.

I can hear the wails and gnashing of teeth and it is glorious.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 03:08 PM (W2Pud)

209 200 It's not about the term "Tea Party". Santelli was the first relatively high-profile media figure to spontaneously vent what millions were thinking. It was out of his lane in his job. That's what makes it interesting and important.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 03:06 PM (1m82a)

Bingo.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:08 PM (HmCtv)

210 I will admit its an 'I told you so for years' kind of moment, with how Bitch McConnel is acting now...

He let his mask drop.

Posted by: Romeo13

Yeah, but it wasn't just Bitch McConnell. It was John Boehner, Michael Steele, Rona McDaniel, Paul Ryan, John Kasich, Joe Scarborough, Kevin McCarthy, John Cornyn, John Thune, Miss Lindsey Graham...The list is endless. Useless, spineless, corrupt, sellout "Republicans" who always find a way to help Democrats win.

That's "our" party.

So comforting. It's like having Allstate.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:09 PM (X+xvk)

211 I never trusted the neococks. That mistrust was very very much warranted.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

Never saw much that was neo about them, aside from not wanting to change their minds about anything.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:09 PM (8avO+)

212
"THANK YOU VERY MUCH! CAN I BE IN CHARGE FOR A WHILE?"

-SGT Hartman

Posted by: Don Black at May 30, 2025 03:10 PM (AOsQT)

213 OT, but I hear Scott Adams's beloved dog died. Man, if that isn't a "Sir, here's the door out, you can go."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:51 PM (n7rxJ)

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One of my college roommates -- a bright religious Catholic -- once asked me an interesting question: "When you're older, who would you prefer died first: you or your wife?"

My visceral selfish response was: "I suppose myself, so that I wouldn't have to watch her die or deal with the grief & pain of her death."

He replied the opposite: "I would want her to die first, so that she wouldn't have to watch me die or deal with the grief & pain of my death."

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 03:10 PM (r2huA)

214 Jeebus, the ignorance (confident, swaggering, stupid ignorance) here.

Neocons were old-line (mostly Jewish) leftists who abandoned the cause at the height of the Cold War, mostly with reference to foreign policy issues. They became anti-Soviet.

The term now serves mostly as a marker of clueless bumper-sticker-level discussion. Even non-stupid people use the term, in the arid desert that is the public square, but none use it correctly.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 03:10 PM (1m82a)

215 It's Looting the Republic phase of the Empire downfall

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 03:11 PM (ypFCm)

216 "Tea Party" as a name pre-existed that speech.
Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:01 PM (HcfrK)

It may well have. But his speech is what got it going. It was the spark. Think Elon buying Tesla. Company existed before, Elon made it into what it became.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:07 PM (HmCtv)
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I'm not going to dispute that, and that may have shifted it from the discussion stage to the movement.

But it embodied the same idea of forming a sub-party within the Republican party, until such time as it became clear the GOP had NO value.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:11 PM (HcfrK)

217 I was able to reach a Mexican woman I know who probably came here illegally with her parents with this argument:

If I had a house and you thought it was a really nice house and wanted to live there, you still cannot break in through the window and squat in my house, then yell foul when I tell you to leave. You want in my house, come to the front door and get invited in.

It doesn't even matter if you were living on the street, you don't have a right to crash on my couch.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:11 PM (2VST1)

218 217 I was able to reach a Mexican woman I know who probably came here illegally with her parents with this argument:

If I had a house and you thought it was a really nice house and wanted to live there, you still cannot break in through the window and squat in my house, then yell foul when I tell you to leave. You want in my house, come to the front door and get invited in.

It doesn't even matter if you were living on the street, you don't have a right to crash on my couch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:11 PM (2VST1)

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"America is a deeply racist country with police who shoot brown people for fun. Just ask Democrats."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

219 I thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (HmCtv)

220 Biden kind of already did. It's not new.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)

As Yogi said - the best predictions are the ones that have already happened.

Wait that wasn't Yogi, that was me.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (Dz1R2)

221 Didn't sleep enough so feeling sluggish but guess it can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (ypFCm)

222 The list is endless. Useless, spineless, corrupt, sellout "Republicans" who always find a way to help Democrats win.

That's "our" party.

So comforting. It's like having Allstate.
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:09 PM (X+xvk)

One priminent 'endless' missing: Mittens. Bastard threw the 2012 election. I'll bet he was afraid of beating the black guy. Wimp. And the other descriptive words you used.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (gKDq2)

223 Anyway, I'm loving this and wondering what the next step is. Of course Kristi Noem is advising the New, Improved CBPOne that helps you self-deport (hilarious that Fox News is the only station carrying that PSA as far as I can tell, as if...) but I'm curious about mass raids. Something happened in Boston today/yesterday? How many were picked up? I hope the disappearance of nannies, gardeners, and dishwashers discourages the others. It sounds harsh, but fvck, don't break the fvcking law ffs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Local news stations IN SEATTLE are playing Noem’s PSA.

I can hear the wails and gnashing of teeth and it is glorious.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 03:08 PM (W2Pud)

Almost doesn't matter. Just having one be pulled off and lots of people swept up will discourage the others and the people who use them for work or for their criminal activity. Look how fast border crossings dropped off once Trump started deporting them. Sure a few judges ruined their reps trying to save a few, but that's a drop in the bucket and they aren't getting the job done.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:13 PM (8avO+)

224 I thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (HmCtv)

Started a LOT earlier than that, broski

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:13 PM (Dz1R2)

225 I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will do the thing on Birthright Citzenship.

But the end game with Illegals his still self-deportation, because of the numbers needed. If the courts won't co-operate it will only make this harder for all concerned including the Illegals.

If we're not allowed to deport we'll be forced to encourage self-deportation by enforcing existing laws and denying all sustenance. This means going after employers and there are obvious targets to start with. It means shutting off benefits.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 30, 2025 03:13 PM (Gqoy+)

226 The term now serves mostly as a marker of clueless bumper-sticker-level discussion. Even non-stupid people use the term, in the arid desert that is the public square, but none use it correctly.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 03:10 PM (1m82a)
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QAnon only was known by 20% of conservatives, and only believed by 4% at the time of Q's last post. And yet "QAnon" became the way for the sloganistas to dismiss so much of conservative politics.

They use "what works". The same way everybody became "Alt-right" when the Dems saw the chance to make that a bad name.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:14 PM (HcfrK)

227 I thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.

yeah that was the first place and time I remember the term being used

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:14 PM (2VST1)

228 I thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (HmCtv)

no they are a lot older.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:14 PM (8avO+)

229
"it undervalues the devastating consequences of allowing the Government to precipitously upend the lives and livelihoods of nearly half a million noncitizens"

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She didn't specify "on American soil" either. You know what I bet she'd do...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 03:14 PM (n7rxJ)

230 223 Almost doesn't matter. Just having one be pulled off and lots of people swept up will discourage the others and the people who use them for work or for their criminal activity. Look how fast border crossings dropped off once Trump started deporting them. Sure a few judges ruined their reps trying to save a few, but that's a drop in the bucket and they aren't getting the job done.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:13 PM (8avO+)

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Footage of a huge bust at a Tallahassee worksite with word afterwards that authorities are going after the contractor who hired the illegals.

https://x.com/tomaskenn/status/
1928081588836773894

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

231 thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (HmCtv)

Started a LOT earlier than that, broski
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:13 PM (Dz1R2)

Neo neo cons?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (HmCtv)

232 Anyone seen the whigster around

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (Dz1R2)

233 Neo neo cons?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (HmCtv)

Yeah. Same shit, different shitters

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (Dz1R2)

234 225 I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will do the thing on Birthright Citzenship.

But the end game with Illegals his still self-deportation, because of the numbers needed. If the courts won't co-operate it will only make this harder for all concerned including the Illegals.

If we're not allowed to deport we'll be forced to encourage self-deportation by enforcing existing laws and denying all sustenance. This means going after employers and there are obvious targets to start with. It means shutting off benefits.
Posted by: Ignoramus at May 30, 2025 03:13 PM (Gqoy+)

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The underlying birthright citizenship thing matters less to me than the overriding process question: national injunctions.

A killshot there would be much more impactful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

235 He's not saying he can grab up randos in the middle of the night, declare them illegal, and put them up against a wall. They must get some process, at some point. The big question is when and how much.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

Hasn’t this always been the case though? Either Trump is doing things way differently or courts are coming up with new rules that did t exist 2 minutes ago. I’m kinda thinking the latter.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:05 PM (HmCtv)
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Trump's use of AEA was indeed novel. Other than that, what's changed is activist judges trying to fuck him.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (iFTx/)

236
"America is a deeply racist country with police who shoot brown people for fun. Just ask Democrats."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (GBKbO)
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But, still. Only the police should have guns.

Yes, the most racist people should have all the guns.

That's Democrat "logic".

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (HcfrK)

237 I thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (HmCtv)

no they are a lot older.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:14 PM (8avO+)

Wiki -

Neoconservatism (colloquially neocon) is a political movement which began in the United States during the 1960s among liberal hawks who became disenchanted with the increasingly pacifist Democratic Party along with the growing New Left and counterculture of the 1960s.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (8avO+)

238
Local news stations IN SEATTLE are playing Noem’s PSA.

I can hear the wails and gnashing of teeth and it is glorious.
Posted by: nurse ratched

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a-HA, interesting.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (n7rxJ)

239 If we're not allowed to deport we'll be forced to encourage self-deportation by enforcing existing laws and denying all sustenance.

And a lot of that is already happening. Many are just heading home and more encouragement is on the way, such as higher taxes on money sent overseas. They need to be more aggressive against businesses knowingly hiring illegals. Almost every farmer hires illegals. They know these guys are not legal, but have the dodge of being given legitimate looking documents so they go with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (2VST1)

240 238
Local news stations IN SEATTLE are playing Noem’s PSA.

I can hear the wails and gnashing of teeth and it is glorious.
Posted by: nurse ratched

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a-HA, interesting.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (n7rxJ)

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Open borders is actually not very popular.

But...a lot of Democrats think that abortion is the more important issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

241 Footage of a huge bust

https://x.com/tomaskenn/status/
1928081588836773894
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

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I am a little disappointed.

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (2ap+5)

242 59
The Left loves to introduce new more sanguine terms for noxious people and practices. "Unhoused" or "experiencing homelessness" for "vagrant." "Gay" for "homosexual." "Undocumented migrant" for "illegal alien."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (YqDXo)
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You left out African-American for Black. Someone even called Mandela that.

Posted by: Ciampino - that's too obvious at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (sPQoU)

243 But...a lot of Democrats think that abortion is the more important issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
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For God's sake, would they let that go? It's a state issue now, as it always should have been.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (YqDXo)

244 102 Anyway, I'm loving this and wondering what the next step is. Of course Kristi Noem is advising the New, Improved CBPOne that helps you self-deport (hilarious that Fox News is the only station carrying that PSA as far as I can tell, as if...) but I'm curious about mass raids. Something happened in Boston today/yesterday? How many were picked up? I hope the disappearance of nannies, gardeners, and dishwashers discourages the others. It sounds harsh, but fvck, don't break the fvcking law ffs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Noem, Gabbard and Dhillon are producers; Bondi, not so much.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (85azL)

245 Elon has a lot of women that want to give him a black eye. Except for Macron's wife. She beats up on her tiny man-child.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (u82oZ)

246 He's not saying he can grab up randos in the middle of the night, declare them illegal, and put them up against a wall. They must get some process, at some point. The big question is when and how much.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

These laws of what immigration due process is have already very well defined by Congress. The rogue judges ignore this entirely for no reason in law or morality. It is strictly political and ad hoc.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (8avO+)

247 243 But...a lot of Democrats think that abortion is the more important issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)
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For God's sake, would they let that go? It's a state issue now, as it always should have been.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (YqDXo)

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There are no state issues. There are only national issues. If someone in Mississippi isn't living like someone in New York City, it's a huge controversy and needs federal government action.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

248 This newly acquired buddy is bugging me to apply for a job as a doorman at the regions biggest strip joint. He says I would be sure to get hired.
I
Don't
Know
About
It

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (SXxzC)

249 Footage of a huge bust at a Tallahassee worksite with word afterwards that authorities are going after the contractor who hired the illegals.

See, that is what has to be done. You cannot just bust the illegals you have to cut off their jobs and resources as well. Over the past 40 years or so a huge infrastructure was developed to reward and promote illegal immigration. I keep reading of these contractors and farmers who are going "I had 4 people show up to work!"

Well you should be in prison, jackass.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (2VST1)

250 Me to my wife seeing two illegals walking on the street, joking: looks like Trump missed a couple

Wife: they look like good ones they don’t need to be deported

Me: what’s a good one?

Wife: the ones that work and don’t commit crimes

Me: Sigh

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (HmCtv)

251 I thought neocons were leftists who were turned right (ish) post 9/11.

yeah that was the first place and time I remember the term being used
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:14 PM (2VST1)
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Wolfowitz was called a "neocon", which is why when he predicted that the Clinton's policies left America open for terrorist action, because he specifically mentioned WTC in one of his papers, it "proved" that "neocons" planned 9/11.

In the 80s, it was argued that "neocon" was a way to say "Jew" because a number of Jews adopted conservative politics.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (HcfrK)

252 You left out African-American for Black. Someone even called Mandela that.

Posted by: Ciampino - that's too obvious at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (sPQoU)
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A liberal acquaintance referred to a former grad student of mine as "African-American."

I corrected him. "He's African-African. Born and raised there, and has never set foot in America."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (YqDXo)

253 241 Footage of a huge bust

https://x.com/tomaskenn/status/
1928081588836773894
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

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I am a little disappointed.
Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (2ap+5)

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Apologies.

https://is.gd/BDVpmM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

254 Open borders is actually not very popular.

But...a lot of Democrats think that abortion is the more important issue.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

Abortion is useful to tie women to the Democrats. Only there can they find absolution for any guilt they feel.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (8avO+)

255 232 Anyone seen the whigster around

No. I am growing concerned.

Posted by: Ann at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (4neFu)

256 255 232 Anyone seen the whigster around

No. I am growing concerned.
Posted by: Ann at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (4neFu)

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I miss his presence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

257 The other Steve Miller would probably object, but why isn't Jet Airliner used as the deportation theme song?

Posted by: InZona at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (iai6j)

258 For God's sake, would they let that go? It's a state issue now, as it always should have been.

yeah they kept yelling "keep the government out of our bedrooms!" and the Supreme Court said "you're right, the federal government has nothing to do with this."

This made them even more upset.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (2VST1)

259 Almost every farmer hires illegals. They know these guys are not legal, but have the dodge of being given legitimate looking documents so they go with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:16 PM (2VST1)

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"THIS is why it was righteous to discriminate against white male farmers in Biden's trillion-dollar loan forgiveness programs, h8rs!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (Js6QB)

260 I corrected him. "He's African-African. Born and raised there, and has never set foot in America."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (YqDXo)

I've seen people refer to black people in Great Britain as "African-American". Idiots.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (k9OZB)

261
It's not about the term "Tea Party". Santelli was the first relatively high-profile media figure to spontaneously vent what millions were thinking. It was out of his lane in his job. That's what makes it interesting and important.
Posted by: rhomboid

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It was also his passion as I recall. I don't watch a lot of financial news and I've got a bank balance to prove it, but it seems like his rant was more emphatic and emotional than most. PLUS, it was delivered during the time of Our Lord and Savior Obama.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (n7rxJ)

262 Neoconservatism (colloquially neocon) is a political movement which began in the United States during the 1960s among liberal hawks who became disenchanted with the increasingly pacifist Democratic Party along with the growing New Left and counterculture of the 1960s.
Posted by: Oldcat
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So, carpetbaggers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (85azL)

263 Footage of a huge bust

https://x.com/tomaskenn/status/
1928081588836773894
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:15 PM (GBKbO)

I've been binge watching videos of a Korean woman with a huge bust setting up luxury tents.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (SXxzC)

264 Apologies.

https://is.gd/BDVpmM
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

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Apology enthusiastically accepted!

Posted by: Oglebay at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (2ap+5)

265 In the 80s, it was argued that "neocon" was a way to say "Jew" because a number of Jews adopted conservative politics.

Oh they are still trying to pull that one, its code language for "jew" and you're a racist if you use the term yadda yadda.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:22 PM (2VST1)

266 The other Steve Miller would probably object, but why isn't Jet Airliner used as the deportation theme song?

Posted by: InZona at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (iai6j)

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It's hard to beat "ICE, ICE BABY!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump 2028 -- Keep America Hot! at May 30, 2025 03:22 PM (Js6QB)

267 There are no state issues. There are only national issues. If someone in Mississippi isn't living like someone in New York City, it's a huge controversy and needs federal government action.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

The Dems don't have enough ground support outside collages and a few major cities to hold people in line

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:22 PM (8avO+)

268
In the 80s, it was argued that "neocon" was a way to say "Jew" because a number of Jews adopted conservative politics.
Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM

That's what I remember, it was used as barely disguised slur.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 03:22 PM (mxvzO)

269 Apologies.

Those eyes...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:23 PM (2VST1)

270 If the neocon movement stated in the 60s it’s not that neo anymore.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:23 PM (HmCtv)

271 One priminent 'endless' missing: Mittens. Bastard threw the 2012 election. I'll bet he was afraid of beating the black guy. Wimp. And the other descriptive words you used.

Posted by: RickZ

Yep. Thought of Mittens the second after I hit "post." He was hammering Obama in debate, and then....

....He took his foot off the gas, called a strategic retreat, lest conservatism prevail, and turtled up to let Obama win.

Well, at least we had Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and the entire Bush family on our side. Conservative warriors all!

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:23 PM (X+xvk)

272 I've been binge watching videos of a Korean woman with a huge bust setting up luxury tents.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 03:21 PM (SXxzC)

is that Rirang ?

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:23 PM (8avO+)

273 Donkey-Chompers on the hot-seat:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez member of group that endorses petition to "Free Elias Gonzalez", DC anti-Semitic murderer who killed two young Jews, calls for copycat attacks:

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/ meet-the-left-wing-groups-and-operatives-rallying -behind-jewish-museum-shooter-elias-rodriguez/

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 03:24 PM (pMi6S)

274 One priminent 'endless' missing: Mittens. Bastard threw the 2012 election. I'll bet he was afraid of beating the black guy. Wimp. And the other descriptive words you used

I think he actually won an honest vote count, but would that have been any better? We wouldn't have gotten Trump in 2016 if Rmoney had won.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:24 PM (2VST1)

275 Movie news:

Well-sourced rumors that Alex Garland is gearing up his next movie:

An adaptation of Elden Ring.

Would easily be A24's most expensive film ever.

It could be awesome.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:24 PM (GBKbO)

276 242 59
The Left loves to introduce new more sanguine terms for noxious people and practices. "Unhoused" or "experiencing homelessness" for "vagrant." "Gay" for "homosexual." "Undocumented migrant" for "illegal alien."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:36 PM (YqDXo)
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You left out African-American for Black. Someone even called Mandela that.

Posted by: Ciampino - that's too obvious at May 30, 2025 03:18 PM (sPQoU)

The Democrats have gone back to using the term black. For several reasons. Primarily to enable the Dems to continue collecting all black-skinned people in the US into a single group. For political purposes.

Posted by: Gref at May 30, 2025 03:24 PM (aBgBM)

277 One priminent 'endless' missing: Mittens. Bastard threw the 2012 election. I'll bet he was afraid of beating the black guy. Wimp. And the other descriptive words you used.

Posted by: RickZ

Yep. Thought of Mittens the second after I hit "post." He was hammering Obama in debate, and then....

....He took his foot off the gas, called a strategic retreat, lest conservatism prevail, and turtled up to let Obama win.

Well, at least we had Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and the entire Bush family on our side. Conservative warriors all!

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:23 PM (X+xvk)

Wouldn't call him a neocon, just a traitor. But you were warned when he was governor of MA.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (8avO+)

278 Completely OT...
Just who the fu*k are the Crisleys and why should I care?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (W/lyH)

279 >I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will do the thing on Birthright Citzenship.

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why

Posted by: Don Black at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (AOsQT)

280
There are no state issues. There are only national issues.

WORLD issues!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (63Dwl)

281 It's not about the term "Tea Party". Santelli was the first relatively high-profile media figure to spontaneously vent what millions were thinking.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 30, 2025 03:06 PM (1m82a)
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Bingo. That's my point. The thought was already in motion.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (HcfrK)

282 Rick Santelli's rant:

youtube.com/watch?v=DHbjenBMLno

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (85azL)

283 In the 80s, it was argued that "neocon" was a way to say "Jew" because a number of Jews adopted conservative politics.
Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:19 PM (HcfrK)

I hope they weren't intimating that the Left had some kind of problem with Jews? With prominent Democrat figures like Jesse Jackson and Fred Phelps (of Westboro Baptist Church fame), not to mention Minister Farrakhan leading the enlightened way, that would be crazy talk.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (Dz1R2)

284 Well-sourced rumors that Alex Garland is gearing up his next movie:

An adaptation of Elden Ring.

Hollywood has been yearning for something to replace Superhero movies for years now, and as I predicted a while back, they are pivoting to video game movies. There's like 10 in the works because Minecraft inexplicably is a hit despite being idiotic and crappy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (2VST1)

285 Homeless is now unhoused. Because of course it is.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (HmCtv)

286 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:20 PM (GBKbO)

Absolutely. I hope Whig is well and simply on vacation.

He is such a font of useful knowledge.

Posted by: Ann at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (4neFu)

287 280
There are no state issues. There are only national issues.

WORLD issues!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (63Dwl)

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American progressives don't give a shit about the civil war in the Republic of Central Africa.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

288 >I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will do the thing on Birthright Citzenship.

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why
Posted by: Don Black at May 30, 2025 03:25 PM (AOsQT)

There's a faction in SCOTUS that wants to clean up various vague and idiotic bits of "law". Like Roe vs Wade. They were hardly forced by either party into settling that issue.

This might be another one.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:27 PM (8avO+)

289 284 Hollywood has been yearning for something to replace Superhero movies for years now, and as I predicted a while back, they are pivoting to video game movies. There's like 10 in the works because Minecraft inexplicably is a hit despite being idiotic and crappy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (2VST1)

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I like Garland (not love...dude can direct the shit out of any sequence at least...the assault on the White House at the end of Civil War is bangin'), and I think his tone would match well with the Lands Between. Granted, I've only played Dark Souls 1 and 2, but I still get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:27 PM (GBKbO)

290 Just who the fu*k are the Crisleys and why should I care?

I vaguely remember the name from a reality TV show a while back. I am not enormously happy with how Trump is using the pardon power, he seems more motivated with "F you all for what you tried to do to me" than anything more noble and consistent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:28 PM (2VST1)

291 I just brought the cat tree, scratching posts and toys to my friends' across the street since Trumpy and Snowflake have been taken away from me and relocated.

It was too much to see stuff day after day. Beautiful cats. I am sure wherever they were dropped off, theu found a home.

Not a cat person bit I loves those two.

Things are looking up too. I've had on a bunch of YouTube videos about surrendering to God.

Posted by: Stateless.. 4% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at May 30, 2025 03:28 PM (jvJvP)

292 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez member of group that endorses petition to "Free Elias Gonzalez", DC anti-Semitic murderer who killed two young Jews, calls for copycat attacks:

Posted by: zombie at May 30, 2025 03:24 PM (pMi6S)
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And they have the NERVE to spit about January 6th!

This guy shot a woman as she was crawling away. He put 21 bullets into that couple (as I hear it).

But it was a good kind of cold-blooded slaughter.

People like Elias Gonzalez and Luigi Mangione are the only people in America who should have guns.

Posted by: Axeman at May 30, 2025 03:28 PM (HcfrK)

293 nood

jake

Posted by: banana Dream at May 30, 2025 03:28 PM (cduTK)

294 Nood....Tapper.

Posted by: Stateless.. 4% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at May 30, 2025 03:29 PM (jvJvP)

295 Hollywood has been yearning for something to replace Superhero movies for years now, and as I predicted a while back, they are pivoting to video game movies. There's like 10 in the works because Minecraft inexplicably is a hit despite being idiotic and crappy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (2VST1)

well, like Barbie it knew its audience and didn't hate them. That often works still.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:29 PM (8avO+)

296 Hollywood has been yearning for something to replace Superhero movies for years now, and as I predicted a while back, they are pivoting to video game movies. There's like 10 in the works because Minecraft inexplicably is a hit despite being idiotic and crappy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:26 PM (2VST1)

Every big blockbuster Movie is made for 17 year old boys. Video games is what they know and love. So video game movies it is for this generation.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:29 PM (HmCtv)

297 I'm sick of the liberal bullshit. Trump needs to use the power of imminent domain and seize a large chuck of Martha's Vineyard for a "undocumented migrant" housing and training facility.

Dims want illegals to stay? then they need to foot some of the bill.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 30, 2025 03:29 PM (f1kZG)

298 Elon has a lot of women that want to give him a brown eye.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 30, 2025 03:29 PM (DVR6q)

299
I'm optimistic that SCOTUS will do the thing on Birthright Citzenship.

Posted by: Ignoramus

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Just thinking about the immensity and number of the changes that would bring.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (n7rxJ)

300 I thought they were going to push anime hard.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (Dz1R2)

301 Until we put a stop to judges and lawyers defining “harm” as anything from death to hurt feefees we are going to be dealing with these leftist rulings for each and every bleeding heart case they can bring in.

I don’t know how to do that but this broad definition of harm to a plaintiff is the root of the problem.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (6ydKt)

302 285 Homeless is now unhoused. Because of course it is.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Gosh, they’ve been saying that here for years.

Also, “people experiencing homelessness.”

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (W2Pud)

303 Not a cat person bit I loves those two.

Things are looking up too. I've had on a bunch of YouTube videos about surrendering to God.
Posted by: Stateless.. 4% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at May 30, 2025 03:28 PM (jvJvP)

Good to see you here Stateless.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (8avO+)

304 This newly acquired buddy is bugging me to apply for a job as a doorman at the regions biggest strip joint. He says I would be sure to get hired.
I
Don't
Know
About
It
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

A) it's trap
2) do you really want to deal with the kinds of guys (or gals!) who go to strip clubs, every day, for work.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (hB7mE)

305 > "America is a deeply racist country with police who shoot brown people for fun. Just ask Democrats."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

And yet somehow every "brown person" on the planet wants to move here.

Weird, huh?

I mean, Jews didn't try to sneak IN to Nazi Germany, right? West Germans didn't need a wall to keep them out of East Germany. Floridians don't need to be prevented from building rafts to go to Cuba.

And so on.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2025 03:31 PM (qpyNK)

306 TJM, the number of birthrite

Posted by: Ben Had at May 30, 2025 03:31 PM (NVNRw)

307 dammit, the number of bitrthrite votes increases by the millions every year.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 30, 2025 03:32 PM (NVNRw)

308 I thought they were going to push anime hard.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (Dz1R2)

They don't control anime, and will likely find it to match its quirkiness. One I watched, Nadia : the secret of blue water mixed a retelling of Verne's Captain Nemo with some steampunk and ended up with a lot of Biblical allusions before it was all done. Oh and a bunch of filler episodes in the middle.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:34 PM (8avO+)

309 Those eyes...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 03:23 PM (2VST1)

She looks kind of nutty to me, as if you said the wrong thing she'd stab you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2025 03:34 PM (EJtBU)

310 dammit, again , birthright.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 30, 2025 03:34 PM (NVNRw)

311 Also, “people experiencing homelessness.”
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 03:30 PM (W2Pud)

—

It’s just another adventurous lifestyle choice,
A long term camping experience, as it were.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 03:34 PM (6ydKt)

312 I hope they weren't intimating that the Left had some kind of problem with Jews? With prominent Democrat figures like Jesse Jackson and Fred Phelps (of Westboro Baptist Church fame), not to mention Minister Farrakhan leading the enlightened way, that would be crazy talk.

Posted by: ...

How any American Jews can still vote Democrat is entirely beyond me. Columbia University, Harvard, Sharpton, Jackson, Phelps, Farrakhan, the celebrations of October 7th....

How many ways can the Left scream, "We HATE you!"

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:35 PM (X+xvk)

313 Every big blockbuster Movie is made for 17 year old boys. Video games is what they know and love. So video game movies it is for this generation.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 30, 2025 03:29 PM (HmCtv)

Lately this has not been the case, of course. The question is can in the future Hollywood adapt a game story and not twist it? the "Last of Us" series says no. They went even farther than the horrible storyline in the second game to own the audience.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:36 PM (8avO+)

314 There are no state issues. There are only national issues. If someone in Mississippi isn't living like someone in New York City, it's a huge controversy and needs federal government action.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Those people in Mississippi with a median income of $55k would love an income bump to $80k. NYC

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2025 03:38 PM (ipqug)

315 Good to see you here Stateless.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:30

Thank you so much!

Posted by: Stateless.. 4% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at May 30, 2025 03:38 PM (jvJvP)

316 How many ways can the Left scream, "We HATE you!"
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:35 PM (X+xvk)

I’m not even a Jew and they’ve told me about a thousand different ways in the last three or four decades.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 03:38 PM (6ydKt)

317 There are no state issues. There are only national issues.

WORLD issues!

==

Galactic issues !

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2025 03:38 PM (g47mK)

318 How any American Jews can still vote Democrat is entirely beyond me. Columbia University, Harvard, Sharpton, Jackson, Phelps, Farrakhan, the celebrations of October 7th....

How many ways can the Left scream, "We HATE you!"
Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:35 PM (X+xvk)

They create imaginary terrors elsewhere to keep them locked in and vulnerable where they are. Not sure if they did the same thing in the 30s but the effect is the same.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 03:38 PM (8avO+)

319 We need to fire the current expecters and hire better expecters.

Posted by: Bud Norton at May 30, 2025 03:39 PM (/8Jbh)

320 They create imaginary terrors elsewhere to keep them locked in and vulnerable where they are. Not sure if they did the same thing in the 30s but the effect is the same.

Posted by: Oldcat

Between Jews and blacks, the Democrats somehow manage to maintain the votes of people they have systematically worked to destroy.

The mind reels.

Posted by: Sam Adams at May 30, 2025 03:46 PM (X+xvk)

321 It doesn't even matter if you were living on the street, you don't have a right to crash on my couch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I'll bring beer

Posted by: unhoused Miklos at May 30, 2025 03:52 PM (K6h4I)

322 Stateless, good to see you!

Posted by: Wenda at May 30, 2025 03:58 PM (KGfTv)

323 t Has Deigned to Allow Trump to Be President On a Case-by-Case Basis

Shouldn't this blog be speculating what dice they're using for these decisions?

Posted by: DaveA at May 30, 2025 04:17 PM (FhXTo)

324 That's we need two terms of MAGA Potus's to change the makeup of the courts.
Posted by: WisRich
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Three. Just to be certain.

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327 If Trump really wants the motherload of deportable illegals he should set up an ICE checkpoint at the Fulton Street underground subway entrance connected to the World Trade Center, at 6AM. Every day when i head to work there's about 200 of them jumping the turnstyle. Grab them for fare evasion, then ship them off.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 30, 2025 09:41 PM (kl2za)

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