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The "Moderate" Governor of Colorado, Championed by NeverTrump as a Solid Conservative-Leaning Libertarian, Mandates That All Coloradans Will Be Forced to Pay for the Sex Change Surgeries of Children (and All Others)

So moderate.

Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money?

Erin for Parental Rights
@Erin4Parents

Wow. @GovofCO just signed a bill forcing all of us to pay for elective transgender-affirming procedure... this bill even includes a slush fund to circumvent Medicaid no longer covering this.

Women of CO: you will all now be paying for men's breast implants, laser hair removal and skin tightening. But your insurance will NOT cover any of these elective procedures for you. Let that sink in.

*1309 also takes testosterone off the drug tracking program. So the wrong-sex hormones you're paying for for children will be secret.

That post here, linking Polis' tyrannical dictate. Note that there will be zero district court judges who rule against his abrogation of free speech rights.

He now claims it's a crime to "deadname" or "misgender" people.

And the district court judges will all say "Yup, this is The Law now."


In upsetting news, a Massachusetts school (of course) encouraged students to wear clothing making the political statement that there are 57 genders.

When one student wore a t-shirt proclaiming "There are 2 genders," the school disciplined him. Then the student wore a t-shirt saying "There are [censored] genders," and the school disciplined him again.

Only two members of the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case. It takes four justices to vote to hear a case (this is called "granting certiorari," or granting the request to hear a case the Court has discretion to hear, or not hear.

Apparently the Federalist Society's picks of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and Roberts all refused to hear the case, allowing the lower appeals court's ruling that schools may encourage students to endorse one political message, and forbid them from endorsing another, to stand.


Just the News:


Parents appeal censorship of "XX" wristbands at girls' soccer games to same appeals court SCOTUS refused to review, which upheld ban on gender-critical shirt as "reasonably interpreted to demean" a "deeply rooted" identity.


...

The high court Tuesday turned away pleas from those advocates and Republican state attorneys general to hear and reverse the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruling against Liam Morrison, upholding his Massachusetts middle school's ban on wearing shirts that read "there are only two genders" and, after his first punishment, "there are only censored genders."

First Circuit Chief Judge David Barron -- previously a Justice Department lawyer known for secretly advising the president who later nominated him that Barack Obama could legally kill Americans by drone strike -- had portrayed the issue as a matter of judicial deference.

...

ADF Vice President of U.S. Litigation David Cortman noted that Nichols Middle School (NMS), which Morrison attended when his parents sued on his behalf, "actively promotes its view about gender through posters and 'Pride' events" and encourages students to wear clothing in alignment with its views but not those opposed, a content-based restriction.

"It is unfortunate the Supreme Court passed on this opportunity to reaffirm and clarify" that the Tinker "rule against viewpoint discrimination fully applies in public schools," Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression Chief Counsel Robert Corn-Revere, who supported Morrison in a friend-of-the-court brief, wrote in an email.

Morrison's case "provided a good vehicle for addressing that question," he said.

The 1st Circuit, which lacks a single Republican presidential nominee, has a new chance to legally distinguish restrictions on gender-critical speech between minors and adults.

...

Justice Samuel Alito wrote a lengthy dissent against the denial of Morrison's case joined by Justice Clarence Thomas, who disagrees with the Vietnam War-era Tinker precedent allegedly ignored by the Boston-based appeals court but said it's "binding precedent that lower courts must faithfully apply" until SCOTUS junks it.

The high court's inaction has stripped "thousands" of students in public schools of their "full panoply of First Amendment rights" in the 1st Circuit's jurisdiction of Massachusetts, Maine and New Hampshire, and left lower courts "confused on how to manage the tension between students' rights and schools' obligations," Alito wrote.

The 1st Circuit "employed a vague, permissive, and jargon-laden rule that departed from the standard this Court adopted in" Tinker pertaining to antiwar armbands, the justice said.

He was baffled that the court "repeatedly emphasized" Morrison's age -- 12 when the suit was filed -- as justification to exempt him from the 1969 precedent in favor of 13-year-old Mary Beth Tinker as well as older teenagers.

"If a school sees fit to instruct students of a certain age on a social issue like LGBTQ+ rights or gender identity, then the school must tolerate dissenting student speech on those issues," Alito wrote. "If anything, viewpoint discrimination in the lower grades is more objectionable because young children are more impressionable and thus more susceptible to indoctrination."

...


Alito reminded the appeals court "the presumption against viewpoint discrimination is of such importance to our constitutional order that we have even applied it to categories of speech -- like fighting words -- that do not enjoy full First Amendment protection," such that Congress could not ban "only those fighting words directed toward Protestants."

Connecting these two stories: Jennifer Sey's clothing company, which produces shirts championing biological sex over claimed subjective "gender," is suing Colorado for
essentially outlawing her company by stripping Americans of their free speech rights to say that biological sex is real.

Colorado's new law prohibiting so-called deadnaming and misgendering transgender people in places of public accommodation could be challenged on any number of First Amendment grounds, even without the child custody provisions hastily stripped from the bill to address concerns by Democratic Gov. Jared Polis and some LGBTQ groups.

But the first major test of HB 25-1312, signed by Polis without a statement or ceremony, comes from an athletic wear company that markets itself as "the only brand standing for women's sports" and sells subscriptions to its own women-only running club.

XX-XY Athletics, founded by former world-class gymnast Jennifer Sey last year, sued the Colorado Civil Rights Division, Colorado Civil Rights Commission and Attorney General Phil Weiser to protect its continued ability to identify "men and boys who compete in women's sports" by given names and biologically accurate pronouns in its marketing.

Because the amendments to the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act guarantee the use of a "chosen name" and the choice of how to be addressed in public accommodations and advertising, "XX-XY Athletics can no longer speak the truth in pursuit of its mission" and "call men, men" in its ads and customer interactions, the lawsuit says.

"Colorado officials have not hesitated to go after businesses for violating" previous CADA iterations, "torching the First Amendment in the process," the brand alleged, noting the Supreme Court sided with Jack Phillips and Lorie Smith when regulators targeted them for refusing to celebrate same-sex marriage in custom cakes and websites.

XX-XY faces imminent "cease-and-desist orders, expensive investigations, hearings, and civil and criminal penalties" if it keeps speaking "its desired message and views," the suit says.

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1 r6u7nr67ub46r7

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:19 PM (n7rxJ)

2 Hmmm

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 30, 2025 01:19 PM (P5BPp)

3 Wurst!

Posted by: AI Commentator at May 30, 2025 01:19 PM (vFG9F)

4
Unbelievable. Even the Democrat Grandees have admitted that this is killing the party.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:20 PM (n7rxJ)

5 This is horseshit. Pure and simple.

Called the otters.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 01:21 PM (VNX3d)

6
Women of CO: you will all now be paying for men�s breast implants, laser hair removal and skin tightening. But your insurance will NOT cover any of these elective procedures for you. Let that sink in.

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Women of CO right back: *swooonnnn*

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:21 PM (n7rxJ)

7 Colorado is literally worse than California.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 30, 2025 01:21 PM (jGGMD)

8 Cultural Marxist strikes again

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 01:22 PM (ypFCm)

9 The thing about the student speech thing...

Thomas actually has a history of being for limiting student speech in Morse v. Frederick and Mahanoy Area School District v. B.L.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

10 And I'm guessing he'll be resoundingly re-elected.

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 30, 2025 01:23 PM (vsTPo)

11 He now claims it's a crime to "deadname" or "misgender" people.

Just took my company's sexual harassment training and this is included in it. The training claims that because the characteristic of gender identity is a protected class, then companies can enforce it in their policies.

Training explicitly stated that if we "deadname" or "misgender" someone, we can be disciplined and/or fired. Also explicitly stated that if a man "identifies" as a woman and wants to use the women's bathroom, employees are forced to honor that.

Again, the training said this is in US federal law, that "gender" is now a protected class.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 30, 2025 01:23 PM (P5BPp)

12 To get more straight males, the DNC is going to make them out of mentally ill lesbians.

Posted by: t-ibird at May 30, 2025 01:24 PM (uREkD)

13 Imma a guessing the Gov got some serious campaign cash from the Tranny Doctors.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 30, 2025 01:24 PM (n17eQ)

14 Couldn't you just say "Hey, Dickless!"?

Posted by: AI Commentator at May 30, 2025 01:24 PM (vFG9F)

15 This is what 'voting' gets you in CO.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 30, 2025 01:25 PM (Q4IgG)

16
In upsetting news, a Massachusetts school (of course) encouraged students to wear clothing making the political statement that there are 57 genders.

When one student wore a t-shirt proclaiming "There are 2 genders,"

===============

Hey, bigots. There are actually 58 genders. The 58th gender holds that there are 2 genders. Now celebrate me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:25 PM (n7rxJ)

17 Kudos to whatever Moron nicknamed him "Pole-smoker."

Posted by: pookysgirl, keeping things running at May 30, 2025 01:25 PM (Wt5PA)

18 And I'm guessing he'll be resoundingly re-elected.
Posted by: Ordinary American at May 30, 2025 01:23 PM (vsTPo)
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Of course he will. His team counts the votes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 01:25 PM (7fElN)

19 Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money?


I think they like to rub shoulders with their leftist betters and, just like their fellow travelers, they like treating the rest of us as revolting peasants whose opinions and demands on our government are safely ignored do to some -ism they learned in university.

I think they are basically a bunch of half-ass libertarians, pretending to be principled conservatives, who like low taxes and low government spending, the Media, the MIC, the Deep State, and little boys.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 01:25 PM (6ydKt)

20 Maybe we should stop being ruled by judges and commies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (CItiL)

21 The ruination of children is one of the left's few pillars.

It seems to be a hill they want to die on.

Effers.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (PMtkd)

22 So when the law is silent and or flatly oppressive....?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (xcxpd)

23 All mail in ballots is a magical thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (L/fGl)

24 Wow! It really didn't take that long for Colorado to turn into California, did it?

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (mADJX)

25 I know someone who was in the Federalist Society.

He was also mentored from HS to white shoe DC law firm.

He was also a sexual sadist and sociopath and child sexual abuser.
I assume it is all related.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (x99pR)

26 "I love this libertarianism!"
-Nick Gillespie

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

27 >> Women of CO: you will all now be paying for men's … laser hair removal

Nothing wrong with that. It’s like a turtle down there.

Posted by: Just the punchline at May 30, 2025 01:27 PM (yd2/I)

28 When one student wore a t-shirt proclaiming "There are 2 genders," the school disciplined him. Then the student wore a t-shirt saying "There are [censored] genders," and the school disciplined him again.

He'd have gotten my vote for class president just because he knows his way around a load of bullshit when he sees one.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (6ydKt)

29 Also explicitly stated that if a man "identifies" as a woman and wants to use the women's bathroom, employees are forced to honor that.

What if I identify as being sexually desirable to the most attractive woman at the company? Is she required to accept my delusion?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (ExV1e)

30 They prefer shorn scrotums?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (bQetG)

31 It looked like 80-20 issues were the hill that Democraps choose to die on. Nah. It's 95-5 issues they choose to die on.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (iFTx/)

32 My golf course hired a few kids to marshal for the summer . One is named Jack. Very small soft spoken guy who is the kid of one of the grounds keepers supervisor. Found out today Jack is a girl.

Posted by: polynikes at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (VofaG)

33 It's almost like these idiots are intentionally grooming an entire generation of future school shooters. The last 4 school shooters have been transgender.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (e5NfL)

34 30 They prefer shorn scrotums?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (bQetG)

They really are breathtaking.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 30, 2025 01:28 PM (xcxpd)

35 Thomas actually has a history of being for limiting student speech in Morse v. Frederick and Mahanoy Area School District v. B.L.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

Yes, but as Thomas pointed out the rest of the court was ignoring well-established precedent in what constituted protected speech for students.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:29 PM (yd2/I)

36 In retrospect, Leonard Leo championing John Roberts 20 years ago should have warned us of what was to come. One more reminder not to be idiotically tribal in support of Republicans who pretend to be rational, hoping they can hide their Epstein flight record long enough to get confirmed and then turn into ACB.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2025 01:29 PM (ijc9M)

37 When will you fucking rubes finally learn your place and realize that all your children (especially your sweet, sweet boys) belong to us.

Posted by: Lincoln Man-Boy Love Project at May 30, 2025 01:29 PM (D0HYP)

38 24 Wow! It really didn't take that long for Colorado to turn into California, did it?
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (mADJX)

Californians will do that.
Just ask WA state.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (xcxpd)

39 >> Again, the training said this is in US federal law, that "gender" is now a protected class.

That’s true. You can thank SCOTUS for that one.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (yd2/I)

40
OK, assume that by some miracle the Republicans retake Colorado. Do you really think any of this will be repealed? That's why Democrats push this stuff: drive the first stake and they'll never pull it up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (QnmlO)

41 Nothing wrong with that. It’s like a turtle down there.
Posted by: Just the punchline at May 30, 2025 01:27 PM (yd2/I)
----
That makes it difficult to give someone a "gorilla mask."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (7fElN)

42 "you will all now be paying"

Hmm. Denver mayor says budget is somehow Trump's fault.

Ok, sure.

Posted by: Man at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (tubbA)

43 One could almost admire democrat for their steadfast adherence to demonic activity.
Almost.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (gxokI)

44 Eventually, the Dems will round up all the fags and trannies and gas them, because that's what their role model did.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 30, 2025 01:31 PM (TFN6S)

45 That makes it difficult to give someone a "gorilla mask."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (7fElN)

Silly putty mask.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:31 PM (yd2/I)

46 Letitia James Colleague Says She Abused Her Prosecutorial Power

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Ya think?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at May 30, 2025 01:32 PM (L/fGl)

47 >> …because that's what their role model did.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 30, 2025 01:31 PM (TFN6S)

Second look at Democrat Party?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:32 PM (yd2/I)

48 We have a very not-so-Supreme Court right now. Especially with all the wymyn on the Court, but moreso with DEI hire Ketanji Brown Jackson.

It's getting ridiculous.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 01:32 PM (gKDq2)

49 Federalist Society judges… yeah I think Trump has finally learned. He took a big huge dump on them today with a social media post just lambasting them in true Trump style

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 30, 2025 01:32 PM (ANuwa)

50 Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money
--------

Just don't tell me Heritage and Federalist have been infiltrated. Can you imagine???

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:32 PM (Dz1R2)

51 OK, assume that by some miracle the Republicans retake Colorado. Do you really think any of this will be repealed? That's why Democrats push this stuff: drive the first stake and they'll never pull it up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM


republicans are not going to retake colorado or any of the blue states, that is never going to happen. What will happen is those states will go bankrupt when the taxpaying base leaves and the money dries up. Hopefully when that happens there will be a true conservative as president so they don't get bailed out.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2025 01:33 PM (e5NfL)

52 I'm glad the Fed Society if finally getting shit for more than just Barrett. I'm not making the case for her, but I've long felt Gorsuch and Kavanaugh have been getting a free ride. Especially Gorsuch.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 01:33 PM (od0dV)

53
Colorado is literally worse than California.
Posted by: Dr. T

===============

1 - It's a competition
2 - New converts are often the most extreme

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:34 PM (n7rxJ)

54 The Supreme Court has long treated student speech less deferentially than other political speech. Schools are allowed quite a bit of latitude to restrict student speech. That may have been a reasonable idea back before schools became so politicized and relentlessly leftist commie cocksuckering. It's a terrible idea now. The whole school-speech jurisprudence should be shitcanned and started over.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 01:34 PM (iFTx/)

55 I truly wonder what the fuck happened to my home state.

My HS girlfriend moved to Texas because of it, and IYKYK just what it would take to get a native Coloradan to move to Texas.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:34 PM (RG+lC)

56 Legendary Dork David Hogg Caught on Project Veritas Cam Saying Who Really Ran Biden WH

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"Legendary dork"? Low blow, dude. Low blow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at May 30, 2025 01:34 PM (L/fGl)

57 So are they teaching this 12 year old kid in his science/biology lessons that there are 57 genders?

Is that actually in school textbooks now, because I have no idea?

How do they square that if the book says there are only two?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (6ydKt)

58 At some point, a dad is going to dad out to protect his child.

We're all going to understand.

And then that dad is going to be sentenced to life in prison - at best.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (oSeBJ)

59 38 Californians will do that.
Just ask WA state. - Mark Andrew Edwards


Yes, that was a great calamity, too. They're like a political and cultural virus.

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (mADJX)

60 It appears that in Colorado the state really does own your kids.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (rJ48h)

61
OK, assume that by some miracle the Republicans retake Colorado.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

===============

What are the voting laws in CO? Ballot harvesting, late vote counting, automatic registration with driver's license, no ID check, etc? They do know how to seal themselves in.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:36 PM (n7rxJ)

62 Jared Polis is a creepy faggot pedo groomer, correct?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 01:36 PM (iFTx/)

63 I truly wonder what the fuck happened to my home state.

My HS girlfriend moved to Texas because of it, and IYKYK just what it would take to get a native Coloradan to move to Texas.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:34 PM (RG+lC)


About 10 years ago, had a friend move from Queens to Denver. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 01:36 PM (gKDq2)

64 What is the rationale? OK, fine, let's stipulate that some surgical procedure is truly necessary for these people.... Why them?

Why don't I get free angioplasty or bypass surgery if I need it? Why don't I get a free liver transplant? Where's my new lungs? Come on. I need it. To live. Pay up.

Why does this particular category of "necessary" surgeries need to be paid for out of the public fisc, and no others?

Why was this even something up for consideration?

(the real answer is "to rub your filthy normie faces in it", of course.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 01:36 PM (VoAdT)

65 Runaway Train - Apparently Akira Kurosawa thought up the original story but was never unable to get it made. Good film, well recommended!

This should interest TJM.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 30, 2025 01:37 PM (n17eQ)

66 Say, have any of you begun to suspect that NeverTrump was always a gaggle of mediocre liberals who realized they could infiltrate the GOP and make a lot of money?
________
I caught on to Jonah Goldberg early. He loves to cite Chesterton's fence, but also supports "same sex 'marriage'". Uh, the fence comes from the article "The Drift From Domesticity", in which GKC denounces just that sort of thing.

https://tinyurl.com/26yndm28

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 01:37 PM (od0dV)

67 Next you're gonna tell me the fight against Trump was never personal and was always political????

That if Trump was for open borders, late term abortion, and a weak America capitulating to every sworn enemy foreign and domestic, they would worship him like a god and demand we do too???

Say it ain't so, Joe!!

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:37 PM (Dz1R2)

68 I don't know when God's meteor is coming, but I am pretty sure it aimed at Denver

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2025 01:37 PM (oNeeU)

69 Californians will do that.
Just ask WA state. - Mark Andrew Edwards

Yes, that was a great calamity, too. They're like a political and cultural virus.
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (mADJX)


There's a word for that: Californication.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (gKDq2)

70
The only thing is for parents either to homeschool or enroll their children in a severely religious private school.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (QnmlO)

71 Wesley Yang's Tweet (or whatever they're calling them these days) is very informative. I had no idea "gender affirming care" involved so many "extras".

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (mADJX)

72 When will you fucking rubes finally learn your place and realize that all your children (especially your sweet, sweet boys) belong to us.
Posted by: Lincoln Man-Boy Love

I have zero confusion regarding my place. It's on the opposite side of the battlefield from you, with a relaxed, well balanced stance, a good cheek weld and controlled breathing.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (Uzn0I)

73 I truly wonder what the fuck happened to my home state

They were the first state to legalize pot, so all the potheads moved there and became the majority.

Posted by: Chuck C. at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (D0HYP)

74 He now claims it's a crime to "deadname" or "misgender" people.
And the district court judges will all say "Yup, this is The Law now."


In the Biden era, we had many political prisoners, just like the UK does now. Colorado seems to be on the UK track of jailing those who exercise their free speech...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

75 I caught on to Jonah Goldberg early. He loves to cite Chesterton's fence, but also supports "same sex 'marriage'". Uh, the fence comes from the article "The Drift From Domesticity", in which GKC denounces just that sort of thing.

https://tinyurl.com/26yndm28
Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 01:37 PM (od0dV)

Goldberg cannot be expected to fully read the things he plagiarizes.

Ref Liberal Hypocrisy.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (RG+lC)

76 How, exactly, does this survive a Court Challenge? I'm referring to "it's illegal to call anyone names (related to "transgender" or other wise)".

For example. Some guy named Jed now refers to themself as Doris. I can still call Jed and asshole if he dings my car door. But, the law won't let me call him Jed? That will last all of five seconds in a court challenge.

By the same premise, I still don't see how the entire "transgender" farce survives the discovery process. It's made up. Even the surgical intervention is an elaborate form of disguise, no different (other than health repercussions) from putting on a wig or wearing a dress.

A vast majority of people still having functional brains are going to sit on a jury and decided accordingly. How do these edicts by troglodytes survive.

Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (dIske)

77 26 "I love this libertarianism!"
-Nick Gillespie
==

"Goth Fonzie" remains the best Ace putdown ever.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (eb5mD)

78 >> (the real answer is "to rub your filthy normie faces in it", of course.)

Socialized medicine for the Party. Tax slavery for wagies.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (yd2/I)

79 Advancing from victory unto victory.

Dylan Mulvaney Lands “Peak Femininity” Spokesman Role for Women’s Perfume

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (L/fGl)

80 Why don't I get free angioplasty or bypass surgery if I need it? Why don't I get a free liver transplant? Where's my new lungs? Come on. I need it. To live.

Absolutely. That's why healthcare should be free. -- people who don't understand how socialized medicine works

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (ExV1e)

81 Remember when ACB was the Trump-appointed hero of the conservatives?

Remember that next time we get Yet Another Conservative Hero shoved in our faces.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (ERYKL)

82 Supreme Court's sad lexicon.

Two judges dissenting -- Thomas and Alito.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (x99pR)

83 The dead naming section will be found unconstitutional pretty quickly. A person may sue the other person for damages , but criminal prosecution violates the 1st amendment. Of course some idiot Fed trial judge may go along with it but an appeals court won't

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (U09go)

84 73 I truly wonder what the fuck happened to my home state

They were the first state to legalize pot, so all the potheads moved there and became the majority.

Posted by: Chuck C. at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (D0HYP)

When I was born, Reagan was Gov of Kalifornia...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

85 Sorry, Liberal Fascism. I lose track of all the shit Goldberg steals.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:40 PM (RG+lC)

86 At some point, a dad is going to dad out to protect his child.

We're all going to understand.

And then that dad is going to be sentenced to life in prison - at best.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (oSeBJ)
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I wouldn't worry about the dads so much. It's the granddads who should keep people worried. They may decide they have nothing to lose to protect their grandchildren.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 01:40 PM (7fElN)

87
The Supreme Court has long treated student speech less deferentially than other political speech. Schools are allowed quite a bit of latitude to restrict student speech. That may have been a reasonable idea back before schools became so politicized and relentlessly leftist commie cocksuckering. It's a terrible idea now. The whole school-speech jurisprudence should be shitcanned and started over.
Posted by: Elric Blade

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I was just going to say, I reluctantly see merit in giving the Boston case to the schools because 12-year-olds in fact do not have that kind of First Amendment protection. The local law is an ass, and it isn't up to SCOTUS to save voters from it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:40 PM (n7rxJ)

88 76 How, exactly, does this survive a Court Challenge? I'm referring to "it's illegal to call anyone names (related to "transgender" or other wise)".

For example. Some guy named Jed now refers to themself as Doris. I can still call Jed and asshole if he dings my car door. But, the law won't let me call him Jed? That will last all of five seconds in a court challenge.

By the same premise, I still don't see how the entire "transgender" farce survives the discovery process. It's made up. Even the surgical intervention is an elaborate form of disguise, no different (other than health repercussions) from putting on a wig or wearing a dress.

A vast majority of people still having functional brains are going to sit on a jury and decided accordingly. How do these edicts by troglodytes survive.

Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (dIske)

Depends on where in Colorado. Just look at what happened to Trump and J6ers. All a libbie prosecutor needs to say to a libbie judge and libble jury is that the defendant is a MAGAT...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:41 PM (ynpvh)

89 Jared Polis is a creepy faggot pedo groomer, correct?
Posted by: Elric Blade

That's a bingo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at May 30, 2025 01:42 PM (L/fGl)

90 According to the Left, from conception to the day it is born, the mother has sole domain over the person including its very life and death.

But from birth on, the person belongs to the State.

- - A fascinating sleight of hand.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:43 PM (Dz1R2)

91 known for a long time that some repubs are happy to be in the minority so long as they get all the benefits of holding office

Posted by: gnats local 675 at May 30, 2025 01:43 PM (CWTWj)

92 And then that dad is going to be sentenced to life in prison - at best.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (oSeBJ)
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I wouldn't worry about the dads so much. It's the granddads who should keep people worried. They may decide they have nothing to lose to protect their grandchildren.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 01:40 PM (7fElN)

This is a fair point. I'll revise and extend my remarks to include granddads.

The thing of it is, though, NOBODY'S worried that it'll actually happen. At least, nobody in 'power' on the right, and nobody at all on the left. The left has NEVER had to bear the consequences of their actions, so they just don't expect there to be any.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (oSeBJ)

93 Is this about us?

Posted by: Creepy faggot pedo groomers at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (iu4b5)

94 but I am pretty sure it aimed at Denver"

Just waiting for "At night, the pyres for the dead light up the sky. It's medieval."

Posted by: Man at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (tubbA)

95 republicans are not going to retake colorado or any of the blue states, that is never going to happen. What will happen is those states will go bankrupt when the taxpaying base leaves and the money dries up. Hopefully when that happens there will be a true conservative as president so they don't get bailed out.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2025 01:33 PM (e5NfL)

And the progressive locusts will destroy their new home.

Posted by: mea culpa at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (/eSxK)

96 81 Remember when ACB was the Trump-appointed hero of the conservatives?

Remember that next time we get Yet Another Conservative Hero shoved in our faces.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at May 30, 2025 01:39 PM (ERYKL)

-- --

Most of us were just happy they couldn't accuse ACB of gang-raping beer drinking blonde teenagers with her buddies in such a horrible way that the victim had to get two doors for her house.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (6ydKt)

97
Why don't I get free angioplasty or bypass surgery if I need it? Why don't I get a free liver transplant? Where's my new lungs? Come on. I need it. To live.

===============

Is one of the 57 genders "Healthy Asexual"? Identify away!

(I'm kidding about Asexual, but I'm pretty sure it's one of the Protected 57, so why not use it?)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (n7rxJ)

98 A vast majority of people still having functional brains are going to sit on a jury and decided accordingly. How do these edicts by troglodytes survive.
Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (dIske)

You’re really overestimating the courts and the average person.

Remember, the process is the punishment. The goal isn’t to jail you over deadnaming, it’s to drag you through the system and put you under a microscope.

And employers already have policies against deadnaming. This only reinforces and encourages those policies.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (yd2/I)

99 >>Jared Polis is a creepy faggot pedo groomer, correct?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 01:36 PM

100%

Posted by: huerfano at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (n2swS)

100 This garbage absolutely goes against all JudeoChristian tradition and ideas of man’s special place in creation. I’m surprised that people aren’t more outraged.

Posted by: Dirac_Delta at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (VeK4w)

101 Question for Colorado: I am a man but I am insecure about my masculinity, will you pay for me to have my dick embiggened? To affirm my gender of course

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (oNeeU)

102 I'd be more accepting of limiting 1A rights for students if the limits went both ways.

Picket a Students in Christ meeting with a Trans Right Matter tshirt and nothing will be said.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (06wU2)

103 Jared Polis is a creepy faggot pedo groomer, correct?
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 01:36 PM (iFTx/)

Yes, and his potato shaped mug looks like a clown before the makeup.

So, so friggin' glad we took the plunge and moved the fuck away from the festering shithole, Colorado.

When we moved there in '96 it was awesome. The descent into californication was scary quick. Leftist billionaires like Pat Stryker were instrumental in making this happen.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (PSEDc)

104 I don't know if anyone else is watching today's SpaceX Falcon9 launch, but they've updated their displays to show which engines are active. Interesting.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (VNX3d)

105
"Goth Fonzie" remains the best Ace putdown ever.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 30, 2025 01:38 PM (eb5mD)

All of his names make me laugh but this one is chef's kiss perfect.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (mxvzO)

106 How is Colorado different than Illinois, or California??? Maybe around the edges, a little, but the state sucks, and when I visit relatives there I count the hours until I can leave…

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (PCK5/)

107 Are those "gender affirming" surgeries performed free????

This makes no sense. None. Zero.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (PMtkd)

108 How would people go about remembering names AND pronouns for everyone if needed. I mean it's not like the number of trannies is going down.

An absolute impossibility, and they want to enshrine it in law.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (Dz1R2)

109 To be honest, I figure we're in the last days of the human species. I give us ten years, twenty at the most.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (WPL6O)

110 I wouldn't worry about the dads so much. It's the granddads who should keep people worried. They may decide they have nothing to lose to protect their grandchildren.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 01:40 PM (7fElN)

So what happens when a grandpa in Colorado shoots the Mengele trying to trans his grandson, and then flees to Texas. Can Texas refuse extradition because it was justifiable homicide?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (TFN6S)

111 known for a long time that some repubs are happy to be in the minority so long as they get all the benefits of holding office

Posted by: gnats local 675 at May 30, 2025 01:43 PM


And that's why waves of republicans "retire" from congress once their chairmanship positions are over. The graft train is over for them and they are going to bail. They have no loyalty to either the voters or the party. It's how we lost the house big time in 2018.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (e5NfL)

112 66 I caught on to Jonah Goldberg early. He loves to cite Chesterton's fence, but also supports "same sex 'marriage'". Uh, the fence comes from the article "The Drift From Domesticity", in which GKC denounces just that sort of thing. - Eeyore

I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true.

His thought-box is definitely filled with an excess of amour propre, and his so-called ideas are simply little brown bags of liberal bias blown up into Hindenburgs of folie de grandeur. An absurd person.

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (mADJX)

113 Imma a guessing the Gov got some serious campaign cash from the Tranny Doctors.
Posted by: Pudinhead

You bet. On the front range, full of big money hospitals that contribute bigly to Polis and love to chop up kids.

Posted by: Cheri at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (oiNtH)

114
A vast majority of people still having functional brains are going to sit on a jury and decided accordingly. How do these edicts by troglodytes survive.
Posted by: Orson

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You probably missed my rage posts from a few weeks ago about the jury I just sat on. Guy flips his car 3 times, gets taken to the hospital and BAC is .371 and 4 people on my jury couldn't get to Guilty of DUI. Our "peers" are English-challenged immigrants and products of our public education system of the last 40 years.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (n7rxJ)

115 Most of us were just happy they couldn't accuse ACB of gang-raping beer drinking blonde teenagers with her buddies in such a horrible way that the victim had to get two doors for her house.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 01:44 PM (6ydKt)

Yeah, the right falls for the same tricks time and again. “Look, we’re not anti-woman, we’re supporting a based woman! Dems are the real misogynists!”

Then she gets appointed and hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (yd2/I)

116 Who is goth fonzie?

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (PMtkd)

117 I wouldn't worry about the dads so much. It's the granddads who should keep people worried. They may decide they have nothing to lose to protect their grandchildren.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Bingo!

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (Uzn0I)

118
But from birth on, the person belongs to the State.

- - A fascinating sleight of hand.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:43 PM (Dz1R2)

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Posted by: Suck it up and obey, Coloradans! at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

119 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (yd2/I)

______________________

A creative defendant would wait for the plaintiff counsel to represent you using your name, and then announce in court that you have changed your name and sex, and that the plaintiff counsel is guilty of the same legal violation for which you are being challenged. In fact, you could get the bailiff and likely the judge on that one if you give them enough rope to say your "original" name.

Won't survive a single case.

Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (dIske)

120 I think that this stuff will eventually be turned around because its crazy and evil and horrible, but the left is ABSOLUTELY DETERMNINED to impose it no matter what anyone thinks and its going to be a tough fight.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:49 PM (2VST1)

121 At some point, a dad is going to dad out to protect his child.
We're all going to understand.
And then that dad is going to be sentenced to life in prison - at best.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 30, 2025 01:35 PM (oSeBJ)

There's a few Morons out there who could botch up the jury process, I'd guess.
There's always nullification too.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2025 01:49 PM (FCbAQ)

122 I suspect those biology books with just two genders have been locked away

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2025 01:49 PM (ypFCm)

123 How would people go about remembering names AND pronouns for everyone if needed. I mean it's not like the number of trannies is going down.

An absolute impossibility, and they want to enshrine it in law.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (Dz1R2)

I personally don't worry about their "preferences." My viewpoint is just as valid as theirs.

And impossible to make it a legal requirement. It assumes prior knowledge of someone's pronoun preference before it's actually told to you. Plus their preferences change on a whim.

Won't keep them from trying, of course.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:49 PM (06wU2)

124 The Jussie Smollett of basketball.

Angel Reese Refuses to Address WNBA Investigation After It Failed to Find Evidence of Fan “Racism”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, You and whose army? at May 30, 2025 01:49 PM (L/fGl)

125 A large chunk of libertarianism has always been just a thumb in the eye of the majority - pro drug, pro poor lifestyle. This is just another case, lets embrace mutilation of kids to score off the normies.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 01:49 PM (8avO+)

126 Is an unjust law a law? Does God’s law supesuede Man’s law?

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (PCK5/)

127 Won't survive a single case.
Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (dIske)

Nonsense.

They'd toss you in jail for contempt on the spot.

No one ever came out of a courtroom better off than they went in by pissing off the judge.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (VoAdT)

128 r6u7nr67ub46r7
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Wadja go an do that fer-WADJA GO AN DO THAT FER!?1?!?

Posted by: Karl Childers at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (EFZgU)

129 101 Question for Colorado: I am a man but I am insecure about my masculinity, will you pay for me to have my dick embiggened? To affirm my gender of course
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (oNeeU)

Bigger dick, pec implants, liposuction, ab surgery, and jaw implants for that mega-Chad masculine look.

Posted by: Affirm my gender! at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (TbWk/)

130 More importantly, who is goth Pinky Tuscadero?

Posted by: Happy Days at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (iu4b5)

131 An absurd person.
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:47 PM (mADJX)

To think Goldberg owes his visibility and resultant career to Monica Lewinsky.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (06wU2)

132 I am willing to call Charles "Charlene" ( I haven't been faced with this problem yet and hope I am not ), but I will not use the pronoun she for someone who is obviously male or vice versa. I will just use for example . "Charlene" went to the bathroom, not "She went to the bathroom."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (Y7uBg)

133 Republicans really do suck at judiciary-related matters, all aspects. We lose and lose and lose again while the Left effectively uses its grip on the judicial branch as a weapon against Republican policies and presidents. Maybe we suck at it because a substantial portion of Republican voters still believe justice should be blind and nonpartisan and never used as a political weapon.

We're fools for thinking this way.

Posted by: troyriser at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (DPeYO)

134 101 Question for Colorado: I am a man but I am insecure about my masculinity, will you pay for me to have my dick embiggened? To affirm my gender of course

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2025 01:45 PM (oNeeU)

It wouldn't align with Colorado's values...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

135 I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true.

That book really frustrated me because it sold so well but he had not only nothing new to say, but it was largely plagiarized from other writers. It is hard as an author to not be a little jealous when some vapid overrated hack gets huge sales for some piece of crap like Dan Brown keeps having happen.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (2VST1)

136 That includes eye lifts and skin tightening which I'm assuming is a face lift? This is crazy and I'm tired of it.

Posted by: CaliGirl at May 30, 2025 01:52 PM (mxvzO)

137 Democrats have made very clear what their goals are. They show you every day. Even in the face of defeat they’re saying out loud they will subvert the government once again to get retribution. They’ve made Musk Public Enemy #1. In places like Colorado they are going down The Bill of Rights and eliminating every citizens liberty.

As much as they try to hide it in order to get reelected, it’s who they are. Why anyone would ever trust them again is stunningly stupid.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 30, 2025 01:52 PM (cIsFN)

138 I spell supersede wrong every time… do not know why

Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2025 01:52 PM (PCK5/)

139 127 Won't survive a single case.
Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (dIske)

Nonsense.

They'd toss you in jail for contempt on the spot.

No one ever came out of a courtroom better off than they went in by pissing off the judge.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (VoAdT)

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The people brought up on charges under this law are going to suffer terribly.

The law won't survive, but it'll be an expensive slog for the examples caught up in the net.

It will encourage the Great Migration more, though. Another 100,000 people deciding "fuck this" before 2030 and leaving could be a tipping point for CO losing another seat in Congress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

140 Democrats are Marxist-Socialist . It's their way or their way. The is No 20/80 bs with anything on their agenda.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2025 01:53 PM (DWSbV)

141 It's being reported that Jake Tapper's book sales are a bust (and not the sweet Moron-approved kind), and that his ratings have dropped to a decade low.

I must interrupt you "Right on"ning, your high-fiving, and general effervescence at this tidbit to ask a serious question. These results could easily lead to Mr. Tapper's disappearance from the media landscape. Ace would no longer have periodic opportunities to reference him.

Is this what you want?

If not, please shed a tear for Mr. Tapper.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 30, 2025 01:53 PM (0sNs1)

142 No one ever came out of a courtroom better off than they went in by pissing off the judge.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (VoAdT)

Everyone gangsta until they actually have to go to court and sit before the judge. Then it’s all too real.

Doesn’t matter if you win or lose, the chilling effect will be there. And then you’ll get fired from your corporate job and your wife will be harassed on social media for being married to a “bigot.”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:53 PM (yd2/I)

143 127 Won't survive a single case.
Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (dIske)

Nonsense.

They'd toss you in jail for contempt on the spot.

No one ever came out of a courtroom better off than they went in by pissing off the judge.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (VoAdT)

Unless they had dirt on the judge...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

144 I wonder how many regular old, garden variety, gays and lesbians are terrified that their kooky extremist buddies in the LGBTQ2S++/57 are turning what was a good thing for them into a potential future nightmare because they finally pushed the normies a little too far and a real backlash ensues?

Because you know the ones with brains have to see what's coming if this keeps going.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (6ydKt)

145 Dirty gay Polis making mutilated dollies for fun and sadism.

Posted by: night lifted at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (FZn/N)

146 I don’t know how the good people left in Colorado aren’t burning the capital down and hanging Democrats from lampposts.

Posted by: Vengeance at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (cIsFN)

147
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: World Boxing announces mandatory s*x testing for all boxers— says Imane Khelif will NOT be allowed to compete in the female category until he undergoes testing

https://tinyurl.com/2ncuj22y

Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (NpAcC)

148 I will never use a made-up pronoun. Never participate in someone else's mental illness.

It's ridiculous and not the truth. Truth is rather important.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (PMtkd)

149 Call me Napoleon.

Posted by: Asylum resident at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (63Dwl)

150 148 I will never use a made-up pronoun. Never participate in someone else's mental illness.

It's ridiculous and not the truth. Truth is rather important.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (PMtkd)

I can make an exception: if you use She/He/It and call them "SHIt"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

151 Can Texas refuse extradition because it was justifiable homicide?

Yes? I mean, how is this different from Colorado saying “it’s legal to chop children’s legs off” and then telling Texas “that man stopped a doctor from chopping his grandson’s legs off, you need to return him to us for trial”?

I’ve never understood how, barring legislation specifically legalizing it, child mutilation was not a literal crime to begin with.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (EXyHK)

152
The thing of it is, though, NOBODY'S worried that it'll actually happen. At least, nobody in 'power' on the right, and nobody at all on the left.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating

===============

I bet they're rubbing their hands waiting for it to happen. After all, they don't care who dies. When it does, they'll once again scream that White Supremacy MAGA Christian Nationalism violent terror is the greatest threat to our nation.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (n7rxJ)

153 According to the Left, from conception to the day it is born, the mother has sole domain over the person including its very life and death.

But from birth on, the person belongs to the State.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:43 PM (Dz1R2)


Which means, in accordance with leftist dogma, the State can require women to reproduce.

Once she gets pregnant she could argue that it's her body but her body is the State's body.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (ExV1e)

154 141 It's being reported that Jake Tapper's book sales are a bust (and not the sweet Moron-approved kind), and that his ratings have dropped to a decade low.

I must interrupt you "Right on"ning, your high-fiving, and general effervescence at this tidbit to ask a serious question. These results could easily lead to Mr. Tapper's disappearance from the media landscape. Ace would no longer have periodic opportunities to reference him.

Is this what you want?

If not, please shed a tear for Mr. Tapper.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 30, 2025 01:53 PM (0sNs1)

=======

His career as a fake centrist that GOPe aligned commentators approve of is coming to an end.

The only thing he can do now to redeem himself at all and help the profession he so loves is to burn as many people as possible who have been lying to the people, both insiders to the government machine and members of the press.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

155 Posted by: Suck it up and obey, Coloradans! at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

Yes( I'm sure Paul would be all on board with transgenderism/ sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (Y7uBg)

156 114 You probably missed my rage posts from a few weeks ago about the jury I just sat on. Guy flips his car 3 times, gets taken to the hospital and BAC is .371 and 4 people on my jury couldn't get to Guilty of DUI. Our "peers" are English-challenged immigrants and products of our public education system of the last 40 years. - Blonde Morticia

Amen! I sat on a jury in Miami one time. Defendant was a drug dealer who looked like Charles Manson. The cops had him cold. Result: hung jury. One liberal would not accept the validity of police testimony under any circumstances whatsoever, and one elderly lady said that the Holy Spirit had come to her in a dream the night before and told her the guy was innocent. From that moment, I vowed that if I were ever called for jury duty again, I'd confess to the crime myself rather than sit for two full days listening to idiots talking nonsense.

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (mADJX)

157 I saw Vapid Overrated Hacks open for Pink Floyd. They were difficult to tell apart.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (6YdsJ)

158 Republicans really do suck at judiciary-related matters, all aspects

The problem is less a Republican one in my opinion than something inherent to the judicial system. Judges are almost without exception arrogant and condescending, and all are lawyers by origin, who are people trained not to find the truth or reason, but the best argument to accomplish their goals.

That doesn't mean lawyers are all evil and awful and we should first kill them all, it is a useful profession and can be quite beneficial. But the profession necessarily leads to a certain flexibility in the law and perception that combined with the power to declare law and culture as a judge can be very problematic and very, very few can fight that trend.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (2VST1)

159 151 Can Texas refuse extradition because it was justifiable homicide?

Yes? I mean, how is this different from Colorado saying “it’s legal to chop children’s legs off” and then telling Texas “that man stopped a doctor from chopping his grandson’s legs off, you need to return him to us for trial”?

I’ve never understood how, barring legislation specifically legalizing it, child mutilation was not a literal crime to begin with.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (EXyHK)

Because pervy politicians and their allies like it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (ynpvh)

160 Nobody ever really thought that the first "openly gay" congress critter, then governor was moderate.

I should probably switch from trying to make it easier to stay where I am to working to move to a saner state.
I've been typing and thinking that for over a year now since my dad passed away, but have not wanted to take on the challenge of starting anew cuz I'm risk aversive and lazy.

Since I avoid the FNM I don't get steady reminders that I'm in a blue shithole state now, but every once in a while the state commiecrats do something that catches AoS attention.

Posted by: PaleRider has a long memory at May 30, 2025 01:56 PM (CKOCg)

161 I can make an exception: if you use She/He/It and call them "SHIt"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

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Okay, I'll do it.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:56 PM (PMtkd)

162 Call me Napoleon.
Posted by: Asylum resident

Only if you refer to me as "President Roosevelt."
-- Teddy Brewster

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

163
“that man stopped a doctor from chopping his grandson’s legs off

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Homicide, friends, so extradition happens.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:56 PM (n7rxJ)

164 It's being reported that Jake Tapper's book sales are a bust (and not the sweet Moron-approved kind), and that his ratings have dropped to a decade low.

His novels aren't selling all that well either. I mean, better than mine, but not particularly great for a famous individual with connections.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:57 PM (2VST1)

165 Supreme Court's sad Lexicon:

These are the saddest of possible words:
Two justices dissenting, Thomas and Alito
Four commies, OK, but five were Republican appointed.
Two justices dissenting Thomas and Alito
Turning law and society into a pile of rubble
Words that are heavy with nothing but trouble
Two Justices dissenting, Thomas and Alito

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at May 30, 2025 01:57 PM (x99pR)

166 The thing of it is, though, NOBODY'S worried that it'll actually happen. At least, nobody in 'power' on the right, and nobody at all on the left. The left has NEVER had to bear the consequences of their actions, so they just don't expect there to be any.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

SCOTUS has been chipping away at our foundational element of rule of law for quite awhile. That boulder is close to breaking free and rolling down hill. When it does, their shock, suprise and righteous indignation will be be squashed flat. They want rule by law? They will get rule by law. Law of the jungle.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at May 30, 2025 01:57 PM (Uzn0I)

167 135 I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true.

That book really frustrated me because it sold so well but he had not only nothing new to say, but it was largely plagiarized from other writers. It is hard as an author to not be a little jealous when some vapid overrated hack gets huge sales for some piece of crap like Dan Brown keeps having happen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:51 PM (2VST1)
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Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn said it all in the 70s in his book, Leftism. The best thing I can say for Goldberg's book is that he did do the grunt work of coming up with many examples. But no insight.

"I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true." -- That actually comes from Samuel Johnson.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 01:57 PM (od0dV)

168 If a person's pronouns are "They, Them", do Coloradoans have to refer to the single individual in the plural (or face prosecution)?

I guess the plural could be correct in the "we are legion, for we are many" devil spirits sense.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 30, 2025 01:57 PM (vbXSk)

169
I bet they're rubbing their hands waiting for it to happen. After all, they don't care who dies. When it does, they'll once again scream that White Supremacy MAGA Christian Nationalism violent terror is the greatest threat to our nation.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:54 PM (n7rxJ)

You're totally right. Of course you are, and more fool I for not getting there on my own.

They still jerk off to J6. They NEED someone to protect a child so they can get that rush again.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (oSeBJ)

170 The courts are dogshit bastions of left wing subversives using the law as a weapon. Don’t expect any relief from them. Most of those jurists should be tossed into the flaming dumpster with the rest of their Democrat colleagues. I wouldn’t go into a single courtroom showing deference to a judge. I would beat them with the constitution and law.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (MJOSJ)

171 I'm so old I remember when Colorado was the "Hate State" and Colorado Springs was "Ground Zero" because Colorado voted on Amendment Two saying we wouldn't give wildly preferential hiring treatment to gays. (At the time, G&L represented

Then the Gill Foundation set their sights on us.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (rF2iL)

172 I spell supersede wrong every time… do not know why…

Here I am thinking, oh, you spelled it “supercede”, it’s a perfectly legit variant.

Oh, supersuede. That ought to be a word. But it would mean something entirely different. And probably reference Undercover Brother.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (EXyHK)

173 No crowing about this on DU, surprisingly. They love to talk about Tinker and supporting protests, so maybe they're really outraged at this travesty instead? Lol

Daily Kos knows the real probelm: the administration has begun exporting its war on the First Amendment. This week, the State Department announced that it is formally increasing “social media vetting” for all student and exchange visitor visa applicants.

The move comes on the heels of escalated attacks against storied universities including Harvard, where Trump skipped the vetting and went straight to cancelling foreign student visas outright...

Social media vetting is viewpoint discrimination under the 1st A

When the government engages in viewpoint discrimination, it singles out a particular opinion, perspective or “viewpoint” for treatment that differs from how other viewpoints are treated. Viewpoint discrimination, where the government persecutes or otherwise punishes someone for expressing views it dislikes or disagrees with, is illegal.
(the hypocrisy is stunning here!)

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (MS/3t)

174 I think the proper response when a freak says "you need to use my preferred pronouns" is GFY. Considering the insane operations taking place, they probably could.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:59 PM (PMtkd)

175 172 I spell supersede wrong every time… do not know why…

Here I am thinking, oh, you spelled it “supercede”, it’s a perfectly legit variant.

Oh, supersuede. That ought to be a word. But it would mean something entirely different. And probably reference Undercover Brother.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (EXyHK)

Like Corinthian Leather...

Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Montalban at May 30, 2025 01:59 PM (ynpvh)

176 >> One liberal would not accept the validity of police testimony under any circumstances whatsoever..

Based AF.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:59 PM (yd2/I)

177 173 Social media vetting is viewpoint discrimination under the 1st A

When the government engages in viewpoint discrimination, it singles out a particular opinion, perspective or “viewpoint” for treatment that differs from how other viewpoints are treated. Viewpoint discrimination, where the government persecutes or otherwise punishes someone for expressing views it dislikes or disagrees with, is illegal. (the hypocrisy is stunning here!)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (MS/3t)

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"There are no reasons anyone should be prevented from entering the United States at all."
-just say it, it's popular, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

178
From that moment, I vowed that if I were ever called for jury duty again, I'd confess to the crime myself rather than sit for two full days listening to idiots talking nonsense.
Posted by: Paco

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lol at that escape from jury duty. That would be hilarious in voir dire lolol.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 01:59 PM (n7rxJ)

179 Posted by: Suck it up and obey, Coloradans! at May 30, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

I know you're flinging shit and using my posts to springboard off, which by the way isn't particularly appreciated.

I have my own problems with those excerpts but thankfully I follow Jesus who said "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

That is clear about who is in charge, and if you want to pretend it's not in order to bathe in some shit while everyone looks on, be my guest.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (Dz1R2)

180 135 That book really frustrated me because it sold so well but he had not only nothing new to say, but it was largely plagiarized from other writers. - Christopher R Taylor

From absolute nobody to Krispy Kreme savant in no time flat. Some people just absolutely fall into it.

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (mADJX)

181 108 How would people go about remembering names AND pronouns for everyone if needed. I mean it's not like the number of trannies is going down.

An absolute impossibility, and they want to enshrine it in law.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:46 PM (Dz1R2)

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So, if I am in an argument with some asshole, I can change my pronouns on the spot to get him arrested?

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (oNeeU)

182 You know they mean it when its all caps.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (QSrLX)

183 Like Corinthian Leather...

From my Cordoba’s back seat I stab at thee!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (EXyHK)

184 153 According to the Left, from conception to the day it is born, the mother has sole domain over the person including its very life and death.

But from birth on, the person belongs to the State.
Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 01:43 PM (Dz1R2)

Which means, in accordance with leftist dogma, the State can require women to reproduce.

Once she gets pregnant she could argue that it's her body but her body is the State's body.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (ExV1e)
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I wouldn't be too blithe about that. When the demographic crisis really gets bad, that's likely to happen.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (od0dV)

185 The ruination of children is one of the left's few pillars.

It seems to be a hill they want to die on.

***

Their terms are acceptable.

Posted by: Jetto at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (/tZjt)

186 171 (my comment got truncated)

At the time, G&L represented <2% of the population and they wanted all employers, even childcare and religious organizations, to hire 10% G&L.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (rF2iL)

187 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (MS/3t)

Funny; I didn't know that terrorists had free speech rights in the US, while at the same time Colorado is willing to fine and jail actual US citizens for "misgendering"...

Posted by: Zombie Ricardo Montalban at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (ynpvh)

188 There was some issue with Colorado when I was a kid because of some beer company out there (Molson?) that was being boycotted for some reason. I never understood what it was all about.

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (77rzZ)

189 "which upheld ban on gender-critical shirt as "reasonably interpreted to demean" a "deeply rooted" identity."

White straight Christians have more deeply rooted identity. Is it now illegal to "demean" us? Or just the confused perverts?

Posted by: illiniwek at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (vbXSk)

190 I think the proper response when a freak says "you need to use my preferred pronouns" is GFY. Considering the insane operations taking place, they probably could.
Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 01:59 PM (PMtkd)

My preferred response is to completely ignore that person. If a person is that delusional, then I want nothing to do with them.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (VNX3d)

191 There's a reason The Ottoman is not upholstered in suede.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (0sNs1)

192 Kiiiiiiiirk!...oh, off sock.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (ynpvh)

193 Trump and Elon are on the tube. Trump played a clip showing the increase in personal wealth

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (U09go)

194 Social media vetting is viewpoint discrimination under the 1st A

Which only applies to American citizens and people living in the USA, not people in foreign countries.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (2VST1)

195 191 There's a reason The Ottoman is not upholstered in suede.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM (0sNs1)

Because it would be worse than getting his hair waxed?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

196 Who in the world ever said Polis was a conservative leaning libertarian?

Only an insane person.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (dGCAG)

197 Meanwhile there's a HUGE nursing shortage and most hospitals are over capacity but sure let's make sure "Oliver" has a vagina he can be happy about


What the fuck happened to us?

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (XLfSN)

198 Nonsense.

They'd toss you in jail for contempt on the spot.

No one ever came out of a courtroom better off than they went in by pissing off the judge.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 01:50 PM (VoAdT)
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Colorado has "citizen's arrest". It doesn't require a felony to apply. You can initiate based on misdemeanors. All that has to occur is a crime taking place in front of you. And, guess what, the court reporter is going to have it documented for you nice and neat.

I'm a bit tired of playing by the rules.

Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (dIske)

199 I spell supersede wrong every time… do not know why
Posted by: tubal at May 30, 2025 01:52 PM (PCK5/)

I dunno, I kinda liked supersuede. I envisioned an extra fuzzy fringed jacket.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (FCbAQ)

200
No crowing about this on DU, surprisingly.

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What's your impression of things over there? It might be my imagination, but it seems like they're receding. Maybe it's that social media has grown so much that they just can't have the prominence they once had, or maybe MSNBC got sick of Markos night after night.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (n7rxJ)

201 That doesn't mean lawyers are all evil and awful and we should first kill them all, it is a useful profession and can be quite beneficial.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (2VST1)


Wait, wait, wait.
Let's not get heap this kind of praise on them and blow these guys egos up even more than they already are before we break out the guillotines.

I think we should let AI be the judges from now on.
At least you could deprogram their bias.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (6ydKt)

202 There was some issue with Colorado when I was a kid because of some beer company out there (Molson?) that was being boycotted for some reason. I never understood what it was all about.
Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:01 PM


The beer was Coors. (Which should have been spelled Coörs.)

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (0sNs1)

203 And by the way, you owe zero respect to a so called jurist who has consistently made it clear he will rule against plaintiffs with the wrong politics. That’s a complete subversion f our justice system that shouldn’t be honored in any way. You gain absolutely zero by yielding to their kangaroo courts. Grow some balls, show some courage and fights them with facts and established law.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (MJOSJ)

204 167 "I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true." -- That actually comes from Samuel Johnson. - Eeyore

Very true, but someone, I do not recollect who it was, said it about Goldberg's book, too. It's an observation that is widely applicable, especially these days.

Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (mADJX)

205 Voir, a dire, a female dire... 🎵

Sorry.

Voir, a dire, a dire of an indiscriminate gender on a sliding scaaaaaale... 🎶🎵

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (Dz1R2)

206 There is no way in hell I would be a teacher today. Regardless of what they paid, no way.

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 02:04 PM (PMtkd)

207 I want to be on a jury deciding some federal case. Everyone walks, for everything until elites and people in power start facing justice. I don't even care what they did, all the really awful crimes are not federal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:04 PM (2VST1)

208 When one student wore a t-shirt proclaiming "There are 2 genders," the school disciplined him. Then the student wore a t-shirt saying "There are [censored] genders," and the school disciplined him again.

Only two members of the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case. It takes four justices to vote to hear a case (this is called "granting certiorari," or granting the request to hear a case the Court has discretion to hear, or not hear.

Apparently the Federalist Society's picks of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett, and Roberts all refused to hear the case, allowing the lower appeals court's ruling that schools may encourage students to endorse one political message, and forbid them from endorsing another, to stand.



This is so much bullshit.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 30, 2025 02:04 PM (ipqug)

209 Meanwhile there's a HUGE nursing shortage and most hospitals are over capacity but sure let's make sure "Oliver" has a vagina he can be happy about
Posted by: melodicmetal1

He has had a very grueling experience. Now he can stop twisting in the wind.

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:04 PM (77rzZ)

210 205 Voir, a dire, a female dire... 🎵

Sorry.

Voir, a dire, a dire of an indiscriminate gender on a sliding scaaaaaale... 🎶🎵

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (Dz1R2)

That word is pronounced different in Texas...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

211 From that moment, I vowed that if I were ever called for jury duty again, I'd confess to the crime myself rather than sit for two full days listening to idiots talking nonsense.
Posted by: Paco
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lol at that escape from jury duty. That would be hilarious in voir dire lolol.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

I've been on juries twice, and always enjoyed it. I was one of those weird kids that did debate and mock trial (and I'm a fully reimbursed federal employee), so maybe I get more out of it than most.

In a civil injury suit, we had a couple Karens want to force a company to pay some dude's medical bills for his obvious misconduct and stupidity at work. They felt sorry for him, he was a victim, and the company had lots of money...

I shut that shit right down, and got all but one granny Karen to see reason. At the end, she yelled something like "I don't know how you can sleep with yourself at night", and Iol'd in her face. Good times...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 02:05 PM (MS/3t)

212 Once she gets pregnant she could argue that it's her body but her body is the State's body.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (ExV1e)

My point exactly except you dug a little deeper.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:05 PM (Dz1R2)

213 He's gay so it's okay

Posted by: Jeff Carter (@pointsnfigures1) at May 30, 2025 02:05 PM (ZiwLX)

214 Tapper's book is flopping. Who would buy it? The Republicans knew what was going on and don't have to pay for what they already know. The Dems think it's apostasy and they won't pay for it. So what is the audience?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (U09go)

215 There was some issue with Colorado when I was a kid because of some beer company out there (Molson?) that was being boycotted for some reason. I never understood what it was all about.

I heard two stories. One is that they didn't pasteurize their beer so it wasn't considered safe to store long. Another is that they didn't use union labor and the labor unions in every other state blocked their distribution. Maybe both were true? It gave Coors a special sort of forbidden, rare aura in states like Oregon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (2VST1)

216
I won't be going to Colorado -- for real. don't want to go to jail for saying "he" when I should say "bunnyself."

But seriously, I'm crossing a custom O'Farrell hat off my bucket list.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (n7rxJ)

217 Amazingly, this Thread is still Prometheus-free.

#BravoZulu Morons!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (0sNs1)

218 Polis has obviously figured out he has no chance of being elected President, so he said "aw, screw it...I'm going full crazy!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (3/Lvq)

219 The beer was Coors.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher

Yes, you're right, it was Coors. What was the issue there?

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

220 >>lol at that escape from jury duty. That would be hilarious in voir dire lolol.

I sat through the best voir dire ever a couple years ago. Guy showed up in a wife beater, came cargo shorts and Doc Martens. Long hair and an equally long beard.

His last name was Cash. Said he had 2 kids, Stolen and Cold. He went on an unprovoked rant about the state trying to take them because the cops kept busting him for drug possession and dealing but he claims not all of the cases were true, so he had that going for him. Even the judge was laughing his ass off.

I wish he had made the cut cause the 3 day trial that followed was one of the dumbest and most boring 3 days of my life.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (viF8m)

221 I wouldn’t go into a single courtroom showing deference to a judge. I would beat them with the constitution and law.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (MJOSJ)

A pipe would work better.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (FCbAQ)

222 So, if I am in an argument with some asshole, I can change my pronouns on the spot to get him arrested?
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 30, 2025 02:00 PM (oNeeU)

No standing!

Posted by: John Obama Judge Roberts at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (Dz1R2)

223 219 The beer was Coors.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher

Yes, you're right, it was Coors. What was the issue there?
Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

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Watch the documentary Smokey and the Bandit to learn more about the process of getting Coors past the Mississippi River.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

224 The people today telling us Trump is some extreme-ist anti-democratic tyrant spent the last 20 years telling us that the things the government is currently doing would never happen because no one wanted them be they left, right or center. Oh and now they tell us those same things are normal, middle of the road stuff that of course the government should do.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (t0Rmr)

225 219 Never mind. I see that Christoper answered my question about Coors.

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (77rzZ)

226 Can one of you legal eagles tell me why a preferred group of citizens can have free surgeries and others cannot?

Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (PMtkd)

227 So what is the audience?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (U09go)

The audience is the Narrative.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (Dz1R2)

228 Amazingly, this Thread is still Prometheus-free.

#BravoZulu Morons!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (0sNs1)

Coming soon to Colorado - Fire outlawed! Fire Bad!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (VNX3d)

229 When have the neverTrumpers said or done something conservative?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (SXxzC)

230 Colorado has "citizen's arrest". It doesn't require a felony to apply. You can initiate based on misdemeanors. All that has to occur is a crime taking place in front of you. And, guess what, the court reporter is going to have it documented for you nice and neat.

I'm a bit tired of playing by the rules.
Posted by: Orson

Yeah! Damn straight!

Uh...you first, though...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (MS/3t)

231 Meanwhile there's a HUGE nursing shortage and most hospitals are over capacity but sure let's make sure "Oliver" has a vagina he can be happy about
Posted by: melodicmetal1
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He has had a very grueling experience. Now he can stop twisting in the wind.
Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:04 PM (77rzZ)


He can dilate his open wound, the 'vagina', to keep it open for the rest of his life.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (gKDq2)

232 Then: What does gay marriage have to do with you anyway h8ter?

Now: The "Moderate" Governor of Colorado Mandates That All Coloradans Will Be Forced to Pay for the Sex Change Surgeries of Children

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (t0Rmr)

233 Thanks, Christopher!

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)

234 229 When have the neverTrumpers said or done something conservative?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (SXxzC)

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They are the conservatives. They are conserving the status quo.

We are closer to radicals, the ones desiring a return to the root of American governance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

235 Can one of you legal eagles tell me why a preferred group of citizens can have free surgeries and others cannot?
Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (PMtkd)

I think the noted legal scholar, George Orwell, had the answer to that.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (dGCAG)

236 A couple things about obeying authorities:

Here in the US, supposedly we are self-governed. (I realize that ideal has been chipped away.) Therefore, our job is not to surrender when some authority demands we do evil things. Our job is to protect the right to do righteous things. WE are the government.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure the apostles were within God's will when they continued to preach the gospel in spite of being ordered not to.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 30, 2025 02:10 PM (rF2iL)

237 The answer to globohomo's assault on our country's children is to use the already existing laws to arrest them, give them real time in prison, and a stint on the sex offender registry.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:10 PM (t0Rmr)

238 Never mind. I see that Christopher answered my question about Coors.

I just don't know if its true or not

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (2VST1)

239 Can one of you legal eagles tell me why a preferred group of citizens can have free surgeries and others cannot?
Posted by: Seems legit at May 30, 2025 02:08 PM (PMtkd)

I think the noted legal scholar, George Orwell, had the answer to that.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (dGCAG)
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2 + 2 = 5?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (7fElN)

240 238 Never mind. I see that Christopher answered my question about Coors.

I just don't know if its true or not
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (2VST1)

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He read it on the Internet. It's gotta be true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (GBKbO)

241 Where's the nationwide injunctions?

Conservative judges need to start playing this game.

Posted by: Leupold at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (4pwAx)

242 Amen! I sat on a jury in Miami one time. Defendant was a drug dealer who looked like Charles Manson. The cops had him cold. Result: hung jury. One liberal would not accept the validity of police testimony under any circumstances whatsoever, and one elderly lady said that the Holy Spirit had come to her in a dream the night before and told her the guy was innocent. From that moment, I vowed that if I were ever called for jury duty again, I'd confess to the crime myself rather than sit for two full days listening to idiots talking nonsense.
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (mADJX)

Old lady was clearly mentally unfit to serve as a juror. I would agree that police testimony on its own should not be presumptively valid, but could be considered reliable provided there is supporting evidence. Especially for things like DUI they're trained to provide key buzzwords to justify charges in their reports, whether they genuinely observed them or not - e.g. "glassy bloodshot eyes, slurred speech, unsteady gait, strong odor of alcohol."

Posted by: No state agent should get the benefit of the doubt at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (TbWk/)

243 Could a person's wife use this law to get her cans enhanced for free? Asking for a friend...and his wife.

Posted by: Meric at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (/BF22)

244 204 167 "I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true." -- That actually comes from Samuel Johnson. - Eeyore

Very true, but someone, I do not recollect who it was, said it about Goldberg's book, too. It's an observation that is widely applicable, especially these days.
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (mADJX)

I think it's pretty clear that Jonah's fat ass didn't write that book. Some ghostwriter did.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (xcxpd)

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I'll serve on jury duty again for sure, as frustrating as this trial was. The first one I sat on was a civil trial and our finding was unanimous.

This recent one was weird. There was no emotion, no feel-good nonsense, just people arguing about hard numbers -- BUT their reasoning was utter nonsense ("We can't have 110% certainty!!!", as if...). As much as we argued in deliberations, it was all civil and we simply wound up acknowledging that we all had different ways of thinking. No arguments about style, this lawyer was a meanie and that one was so smart, defendant seems nice, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:12 PM (n7rxJ)

246 244 I think it's pretty clear that Jonah's fat ass didn't write that book. Some ghostwriter did.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (xcxpd)

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Well, duh.

Ace.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

247 Now: The "Moderate" Governor of Colorado Mandates That All Coloradans Will Be Forced to Pay for the Sex Change Surgeries of Children
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:09 PM (t0Rmr)

Coming soon: The "moderate" Gov of CO mandates all subjects will be forced to get sex change surgeries for their children.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:12 PM (dGCAG)

248 There is no more obvious freedom then being free to state the truth. So you can't have a free society in any shape or form where saying basic truths like "a man cannot become a woman" gets you prison time.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)

249 221 I wouldn’t go into a single courtroom showing deference to a judge. I would beat them with the constitution and law.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 30, 2025 01:58 PM (MJOSJ)

A pipe would work better.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

Amen, brother! I told the judge I was traveling, and not engaged in commerce, and that bitch still found me guilty of speeding, no registration or insurance, etc. When I told her she was a dumb bitch, she illegally threw me in jail for a week!

Posted by: Sovereign Citizen at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (MS/3t)

250 Colorado has "citizen's arrest". It doesn't require a felony to apply. You can initiate based on misdemeanors. All that has to occur is a crime taking place in front of you. And, guess what, the court reporter is going to have it documented for you nice and neat.

I'm a bit tired of playing by the rules.
Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (dIske)

Lol, yeah, try to do a citizen’s arrest of a judge in his courtroom.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (yd2/I)

251 IMHO students shouldn't be making political statements in school, for a variety of reasons. But if schools allow political speech, then they can't discriminate based on viewpoint.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (y2f7I)

252 There's no way, *no* way, that you came from *my* loins. Soon as I get home, first thing I'm gonna do is punch yo' momma in da mouth!

Posted by: SpeakingOf at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (6ydKt)

253 He read it on the Internet. It's gotta be true.

Those were the stories going around in the ancient pre-internet days, rumors people swore were true. Maybe they are?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (2VST1)

254 2 + 2 = 5?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (7fElN)

Some fives are more equal than others.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (dGCAG)

255 I won't be going to Colorado -- for real. don't want to go to jail for saying "he" when I should say "bunnyself."

But seriously, I'm crossing a custom O'Farrell hat off my bucket list.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:06 PM (n7rxJ)

I will never go back to Colorado. Sons are in other states, and we sold our house. Any future TXMOMEs will have us driving west of that shit hole. I know it's hard to pull up stakes and move. We learned that first-hand. But it can be done. And, yes, I do understand, deep roots, family, jobs.

I will miss places like the Western slope, especially Grand Mesa. But Idaho has been great.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 30, 2025 02:14 PM (PSEDc)

256 Conservative judges need to start playing this game.

1) A conservative judge issuing a TRO stopping things the left wants would be disciplined if not killed

2) Even the best conservative judges are cowards.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:14 PM (t0Rmr)

257 Social media vetting is viewpoint discrimination under the 1st A

Which only applies to American citizens and people living in the USA, not people in foreign countries.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM


Yep there isn't a single person in a foreign country that has any protection under the 1st amendment. But the hawaiin judge will rule that the entire planet must be afforded 1st amendment protection because orange man bad.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2025 02:14 PM (e5NfL)

258 "raining explicitly stated that if we "deadname" or "misgender" someone, we can be disciplined and/or fired"

That is forcing people to deny reality. The problem with that is mental health, because when to train your mind to lie to you, your subconscious takes notes. And then one day, things that make you uncomfortable start being edited of your reality or permission. These people need to be sued into oblivion

Posted by: Fen at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM (ciYHQ)

259 248 There is no more obvious freedom then being free to state the truth. So you can't have a free society in any shape or form where saying basic truths like "a man cannot become a woman" gets you prison time.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (t0Rmr)

The whole "in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" thing.

Posted by: Did Orwell actually say it? If not he should have. at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM (TbWk/)

260 According to an item on X Dying Joe is threatening to beat the crap out of Jake Tapper.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM (SXxzC)

261 IMHO students shouldn't be making political statements in school, for a variety of reasons. But if schools allow political speech, then they can't discriminate based on viewpoint.

Imagine telling George Washington say that in the future in the US saying there are two sexes and only two sexes would be considered a controversial political statement.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM (t0Rmr)

262 184 Which means, in accordance with leftist dogma, the State can require women to reproduce.

Once she gets pregnant she could argue that it's her body but her body is the State's body.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (ExV1e)
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I wouldn't be too blithe about that. When the demographic crisis really gets bad, that's likely to happen.


can i interest you in some nice axlotl tanks? fresh, barely used!

Posted by: tleilaxu master at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (v3pYe)

263 I used to joke about it only being a matter of time before it's illegal for a straight man to refuse sex with a tranny. I'm not joking any more.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (iFTx/)

264 It's in our best interest as Republicans that Dems double down on tranny shit.

I applaud it. If this is what it takes to get through Dem primary, good luck in the general election (outside of CO)

I still can't believe how blue Colorado became in such a short time. The state is basically now San Francisco and George W. Bush won it twice.

Posted by: Leupold at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (4pwAx)

265 Lol, yeah, try to do a citizen’s arrest of a judge in his courtroom.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (yd2/I)

Hell, try to do a citizen's arrest of some dude coming out of your neighbor's house, after trying to rob the place.

Ask the McMichaels how that works out.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (dGCAG)

266 That’s true. You can thank SCOTUS for that one.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM

Via Grok:

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled on June 15, 2020, in Bostock v. Clayton County, that discrimination based on gender identity is prohibited under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively recognizing gender identity as a protected class in employment contexts. The 6–3 decision held that discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation inherently involves discrimination based on sex, which is covered by Title VII.

I then asked it who voted in favor and against:

The justices who voted in favor were:

Neil Gorsuch (wrote the majority opinion), John Roberts, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan

The justices who dissented were:

Samuel Alito (wrote a dissenting opinion), Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh (wrote a separate dissenting opinion)


3 women destroying rights of women. And pretty much screwing the entire nation on this issue for the foreseeable future. As I doubt anyone will overturn to take away the "rights" of "gender identity" people.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (P5BPp)

267 250 Colorado has "citizen's arrest". It doesn't require a felony to apply. You can initiate based on misdemeanors. All that has to occur is a crime taking place in front of you. And, guess what, the court reporter is going to have it documented for you nice and neat.

I'm a bit tired of playing by the rules.
Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 02:02 PM (dIske)

Lol, yeah, try to do a citizen’s arrest of a judge in his courtroom.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (yd2/I)

The bailiffs - judges' praetorians - would stomp the shit out of you then take you to jail.

Posted by: Just being realistic at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (TbWk/)

268 If you want a better book on fascism, check out Modern Fascism by Gene Edward Veith. Its a bit more academic but far more informative and valuable

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (2VST1)

269 Coming soon: The "moderate" Gov of CO mandates all subjects will be forced to get sex change surgeries for their children.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:12 PM (dGCAG)


A comedian a long time ago said to move out of California before they made gay marriage mandatory. It was supposed to be a joke, but now, . . . ?

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (gKDq2)

270 That doesn't mean lawyers are all evil and awful and we should first kill them all, it is a useful profession and can be quite beneficial.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (2VST1)


One could make an argument against that.
Every legal issue that makes a lawyer necessary is that way because a lawyer before him and a judge who is also a lawyer created a precedent, or a loophole, or an addendum, or etc, going back for generations until the clear intent of anything original is obscured by legalese.
Then there's the specious lawsuits...
It's only beneficial to have a lawyer when you need a shark with big teeth to protect you from another shark with big teeth.
Clear the ocean of sharks and...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (FCbAQ)

271 I used to joke about it only being a matter of time before it's illegal for a straight man to refuse sex with a tranny. I'm not joking any more.

This came up a few years ago. The leadership of the left told them to knock it off and they did...but the argument wasn't they were wrong, the argument was this was hurting the left.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (t0Rmr)

272 The 24th Foot will advance on The Governors' Palace. Fix bayonets.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (u82oZ)

273 38 24 Wow! It really didn't take that long for Colorado to turn into California, did it?
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 01:26 PM (mADJX)

Californians will do that.
Just ask WA state.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 30, 2025 01:30 PM (xcxpd)
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New Englanders and Minnesotans turned California into a leftist dystopia, and now - their work here done - they're moving on to ruin other states.

Bear in mind California USED to be more conservative than Texas is now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (YqDXo)

274 I will miss places like the Western slope, especially Grand Mesa. But Idaho has been great.
Posted by: Pug Mahon


Hiya pug!

Was hoping you and your bride would road trip out to Yakima earlier this month. You would drive through Walla Walla, great wine country and a beautiful drive.

Head up to north Idaho, Lake Coeur d’Alene, Sandpoint and Priest Lake when you get a chance. It’s jaw dropping.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

275 According to an item on X Dying Joe is threatening to beat the crap out of Jake Tapper.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM


He was out someplace doing a speech for memorial day and he started yelling about being an American, no joke. He also played the "my son died in Iraq" card again.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (e5NfL)

276 271 I used to joke about it only being a matter of time before it's illegal for a straight man to refuse sex with a tranny. I'm not joking any more.

This came up a few years ago. The leadership of the left told them to knock it off and they did...but the argument wasn't they were wrong, the argument was this was hurting the left.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (t0Rmr)

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Every single Democrat nominee for president will say it in 2028, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

277
I wish he had made the cut cause the 3 day trial that followed was one of the dumbest and most boring 3 days of my life.
Posted by: JackStraw

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I'm surprised the judge let him off. Courts are onto Thanked-and-excused-due-to-sheer-silliness. I was in the pool for a guy being tried for exposing himself to little kids and one prospective juror said "Obviously he's guilty, look at that face, and that heinious (mispronounced) crime should have the death penalty!"

But nothing like the hilarious Mr. Cash!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:18 PM (n7rxJ)

278 The obvious knock on hot topic is people at work claiming that so-and-so deadnamed them, even though they never did, just to get them fired.

He said/Zhe said.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:18 PM (VoAdT)

279 A comedian a long time ago said to move out of California before they made gay marriage mandatory. It was supposed to be a joke, but now, . . . ?
Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (gKDq2)

Bob Hope. That let's you know how far we've gone down the rabbit hole.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 30, 2025 02:18 PM (FCbAQ)

280 I don't understand why judges are never held accountable for their decisions nor do they never have to explain.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:18 PM (SXxzC)

281 Every single Democrat nominee for president will say it in 2028, though./i]

That sounds terrible.

/Donates maximum allowable amount to Kamala for PResident 2028

Posted by: David French at May 30, 2025 02:18 PM (t0Rmr)

282 245
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I'll serve on jury duty again for sure, as frustrating as this trial was. The first one I sat on was a civil trial and our finding was unanimous.

This recent one was weird. There was no emotion, no feel-good nonsense, just people arguing about hard numbers -- BUT their reasoning was utter nonsense ("We can't have 110% certainty!!!", as if...). As much as we argued in deliberations, it was all civil and we simply wound up acknowledging that we all had different ways of thinking. No arguments about style, this lawyer was a meanie and that one was so smart, defendant seems nice, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:12 PM (n7rxJ)

I thought, for civil trials, it was the the preponderance of evidence, for criminal crimes beyond a reasonable doubt...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 02:19 PM (ynpvh)

283 The whole "in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" thing.
Posted by: Did Orwell actually say it? If not he should have. at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM (TbWk/)


Voltaire had it right: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:19 PM (gKDq2)

284 I used to joke about it only being a matter of time before it's illegal for a straight man to refuse sex with a tranny. I'm not joking any more.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (iFTx/)

You vil live in ze pod, you vil eat ze bug, you vil suck ze girlcock.

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (yd2/I)

285 IMHO students shouldn't be making political statements in school, for a variety of reasons. But if schools allow political speech, then they can't discriminate based on viewpoint.

Imagine telling George Washington say that in the future in the US saying there are two sexes and only two sexes would be considered a controversial political statement.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:15 PM (t0Rmr)
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See my comment above. There was a time when there was no political speech or discussion in schools, especially schools for younger people. It was reasonable then to give schools power to restrict speech to ensure order and safety.

But things changed when filthy hippy commies started turning campuses into political soap boxes. Now colleges themselves do nothing but indoctrinate political viewpoints and speech.

Notice the kid in this case with the "2 genders" shirt was reacting to overtly political speech by the school. He didn't draw first blood.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (iFTx/)

286 Tree of Liberty: Getting mighty thirsty here boss.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (wBaIH)

287 The 6–3 decision held that discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation inherently involves discrimination based on sex, which is covered by Title VII.

Of course, they incorrectly equate "gender" with "sex". Gender is reserved for language (eg, masculine "el" and feminine "la" in Spanish language). Sex is reserved for people. There are two sexes. And no one can change their sex.

Until there is a decisive legal statement stating this, we're screwed on this issue.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (P5BPp)

288 I recall the left made the argument that if it is ok to take kids to Hooters, it is ok to take kids to drag queen story hour and have them read gay pron.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (t0Rmr)

289 254 2 + 2 = 5?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 30, 2025 02:11 PM (7fElN)

Some fives are more equal than others.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:13 PM (dGCAG)

For large values of 2 and small values of 5...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (ynpvh)

290 That doesn't mean lawyers are all evil and awful and we should first kill them all, it is a useful profession and can be quite beneficial.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 01:55 PM (2VST1)
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The law serves a vital function: to make the future more predictable, which encourages building and investment (which is why Somalia has precious little of either). Precedent serves as a guide to the economy.

The problem with these rogue leftist judges is that they are vitiating the predictability aspect, because God knows what they'll decide next. Result: people keep their heads down.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (YqDXo)

291 I still can't believe how blue Colorado became in such a short time. The state is basically now San Francisco and George W. Bush won it twice.
Posted by: Leupold at May 30, 2025 02:16 PM (4pwAx)


Gill Foundation and vote by mail.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (rF2iL)

292 "if I am in an argument with some asshole, I can change my pronouns on the spot to get him arrested"

Even better, make up a new one - you're Gender Flux, you assume a new genders faster than sound waves can reach your ears so anyone who interacts with you can't help but commit a hate crime because they cant keep up

Posted by: Fen at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (ciYHQ)

293 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

We really wanted to go to the PNW for the meetup, but we were still trying to unpack. It was her first full week in our new digs. Next year for sure. It's really not a long trip.

Say hi to all the other folks.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (PSEDc)

294 Coming soon: The "moderate" Gov of CO mandates all subjects will be forced to get sex change surgeries for their children.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:12 PM (dGCAG)

A comedian a long time ago said to move out of California before they made gay marriage mandatory. It was supposed to be a joke, but now, . . . ?
Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (gKDq2)

Obviously there are some extra steps between where we are, and the state mandating anyone marry or have sex with anyone else.

But we're not that far from some kid going home from school, declaring he/she is in the wrong body, having the parents say "go to your room until you stop being stupid," and then having courts FORCE them to addadictomy or chop the thing off. Depending on the child.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (dGCAG)

295 Elon is sporting a black eye in the Oval Office.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (NpAcC)

296 There is no more obvious freedom then being free to state the truth.

That is actually one of the most foundational principles of America. Shortly before the revolution one of the most powerful influences was a libel trial. A newspaper was pulled into court by the English colonial governor for saying something bad about him.

Back then, British law on libel was just "did you say something someone in power didn't like?" The jury had to find them guilty, because the newspaper did it and admitted it. So the defense lawyer told them to reject the law and find the newspaper not guilty because -- and this was the key -- what they wrote was TRUE. And he argued that TRUTH is the ultimate defense against libel.

The jury agreed unanimously.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (2VST1)

297 I recall the left made the argument that if it is ok to take kids to Hooters, it is ok to take kids to drag queen story hour and have them read gay pron.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (t0Rmr)
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Yeah, pretty much the same thing. Not.

A better analogy would be taking kids to the Mustang Ranch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (YqDXo)

298 The immediate answer to pronoun fascism is to refer to the entity by its last name and only its last name...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)

299 but the argument wasn't they were wrong, the argument was this was hurting the left.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (t0Rmr)

What's the difference?

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (Dz1R2)

300 inre Coors, something that I have some knowledge about...

Yes, it was limited distribution in the day because of the boycott and strikes. Even now it is a little difficult to get in my area.

The boycott though was related to Pete Coors and management having shaky (to say the least) relations with the union. There were also the Liberals there saying how racist and sexist Coors is. Didn't help that Pete Coors ran for office as a Republican and tried really clumsily to draw an inside straight with gay marriage.

Anyway, when I was a kid it was a staple field trip every year to Golden and to tour the brewery. Fun time except at the end when they'd give us water and say it was "clear beer."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 02:22 PM (oUlN5)

301 "Judges are almost without exception arrogant and condescending,"

And "D" students. What's the passing grade again?

Posted by: man at May 30, 2025 02:23 PM (tubbA)

302 NOOD Supreme Court

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 30, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)

303
What if I'm neurodivergent and nonstandard pronouns give me seizures? Do I get a pass? Because... REEEEEE (spit, snot, flailing arms)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 30, 2025 02:23 PM (n7rxJ)

304 298 The immediate answer to pronoun fascism is to refer to the entity by its last name and only its last name...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:21 PM (t0Rmr)

"Comrade"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 30, 2025 02:23 PM (VoAdT)

305 A comedian a long time ago said to move out of California before they made gay marriage mandatory. It was supposed to be a joke, but now, . . . ?
Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (gKDq2)
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It's the a-hole transplants that cause these problems. Native Californians are typically pretty conservative. Notice that where they live - most commonly in the inland areas - are deep red. It's the coastal areas that have suffered most from the Great Liberal Infestation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 30, 2025 02:23 PM (YqDXo)

306 The problem with these rogue leftist judges is that they are vitiating the predictability aspect, because God knows what they'll decide next. Result: people keep their heads down.

That is a great insight, its ruining people's trust and understanding of what comes next. There's few worse tyrannies than randomness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (2VST1)

307 >>> recall the left made the argument that if it is ok to take kids to Hooters, it is ok to take kids to drag queen story hour and have them read gay pron.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:20 PM (t0Rmr)

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Interestingly...

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/aWwVN9uoCn4

Posted by: Turn 2 at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (6TlG5)

308 The model for what trannies want to do for sex, sorry, dating, in general is what they did to lesbians.

Every lesbian dating site is full of trannies, and objecting to this as a lesbian will get you cancelled, and every lesbian bar is full of trannies and objecting will get your bar closed.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (t0Rmr)

309 Voltaire had it right: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:19 PM (gKDq2)

Much like the Matrix - when those people are ready, they won't have to (make them)

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (Dz1R2)

310 Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 30, 2025 02:22 PM (oUlN5)

Thanks, WD.

I hope you're doing well.

Posted by: Bulg at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (77rzZ)

311 Ok, here's another one that exposes the over reach of the Court system using the same logic they are applying to "transgenders" (which I shall always put in quotes since it's make believe).

Suppose you are a diagnosed schizophrenic. You go out and secure a nice healthy Professional Liability policy (also inclusive under your Home Owners policy) with big fat limits. Then, one of your personalities enacts libel or slander on another personality. You sue yourself. The insurance company is under obligation to defend you and pay any ruling. There are no specific exclusions in the policy addressing the issue. So technically, with the right jury you could walk away with a nice award by suing yourself.

This is what happens when you allow the mentally ill to dictate the application of the law.

Posted by: Orson at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (dIske)

312 Head up to north Idaho, Lake Coeur d’Alene, Sandpoint and Priest Lake when you get a chance. It’s jaw dropping.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (W2Pud)

We've been through there; loaded the boys into the family roadster and headed to the coast. One of several trips to the PNW. My folks were born and raised in the Tacoma and Longview areas. Lots of visits when I was a kid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 30, 2025 02:25 PM (PSEDc)

313 Voltaire had it right: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:19 PM

"Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better.

When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity.

To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself.

One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.

I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."

-- Theodore Dalrymple

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 30, 2025 02:26 PM (P5BPp)

314 Judges should be required to address press conferences. Don't ban me. I'm not violent but I'm ready to believe Colombians and Sicilians had the right approach to Judges.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (SXxzC)

315 237 The answer to globohomo's assault on our country's children is to use the already existing laws to arrest them, give them real time in prison, and a stint on the sex offender registry.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 30, 2025 02:10 PM (t0Rmr)

Works for me. Start with the pols

Posted by: night lifted at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (FZn/N)

316 Clyde Shelton,

According to Yuri Besmenov, political correctness is a communist plot fomented by the KGB into the west.

Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (gKDq2)

317 That is a great insight, its ruining people's trust and understanding of what comes next. There's few worse tyrannies than randomness.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 30, 2025 02:24 PM (2VST1)

Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends...

Posted by: night lifted at May 30, 2025 02:31 PM (FZn/N)

318 According to Yuri Besmenov, political correctness is a communist plot fomented by the KGB into the west.
Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:30 PM (gKDq2)


And amplified by Obama

Posted by: night lifted at May 30, 2025 02:32 PM (FZn/N)

319 A comedian a long time ago said to move out of California before they made gay marriage mandatory. It was supposed to be a joke, but now, . . . ?
Posted by: RickZ at May 30, 2025 02:17 PM (gKDq2)

That was Bob Hope. Years ago!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 30, 2025 02:35 PM (5xuJ/)

320 167 "I think Goldberg's pretensions to being an intellectual can be summed up by what someone said of his book, Liberal Fascism - What he says that is true isn't new, and what he says that's new isn't true." -- That actually comes from Samuel Johnson. - Eeyore

Very true, but someone, I do not recollect who it was, said it about Goldberg's book, too. It's an observation that is widely applicable, especially these days.
Posted by: Paco at May 30, 2025 02:03 PM (mADJX)

I never was impressed with the book, though I bought it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 02:54 PM (8avO+)

321 Judges should be required to address press conferences. Don't ban me. I'm not violent but I'm ready to believe Colombians and Sicilians had the right approach to Judges.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at May 30, 2025 02:28 PM (SXxzC)

The OJ trial showed that was a terrible idea.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 30, 2025 02:55 PM (8avO+)

322 Colorados Governor needs to be Parachuted into the Rocky Mountains without his Cellphone

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 30, 2025 04:29 PM (wGqjj)

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