Gun Thread: Lack O' Content Week 2 Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

As promised last week, here is more lack o' content!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the lame-o content below, shall we?

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FUNdamentals
So fundamentals. I advocate focusing on one of four fundamentals, stance, grip, sight alignment and trigger pull/squeeze/press/manipulation every time you're at the range.

Assuming you're not focusing on fundamentals, as I suspect many of you are not, it begs the question; precisely what are you focusing on? Anything? Anything at all?

Please let us know in the comments.

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Fun With The M1

and...

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Fun With Pump Shotguns!

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Fun with ICBMs

and

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2025 NoVAMoMe

Note: One of the great joys of NoVAMoMe season, at least for me, is being able to cut and paste the entire block of text below and haranguing you to attend the event. Are you attending? Are you focusing on the fundamentals of attending?

Alright, guys and gals, the long awaited and highly anticipated details of the 2025 NoVAMoMe are here! That's right, I finally got my act together and updated the information page for 2025, and need to go over a few details. First, the date is June 21st, 2025. Nextly, my bestest blog buddy bluebell and I have decided 2025 will be a year of NoVAMoMe simplification, and want to pass along the changes from prior years.

First, no more registration and no more advance charge for food. If you would like to attend, send an email to WeaselBell Productions, and let us know. You will be directed to a sekrit webpage with all of the details. We do ask once you have decided to attend to let us know so we can coordinate an expected count with venue management. Once there if you are hungry or thirsty simply order from the onsite menu and pay separately. Cash and credit cards accepted. Next, although fun, we have decided to take a break from the raffles and mug sales this year. Depending on how it goes, that may be something we bring back in future years. While your generosity is always appreciated, with no prize table, please leave donations and contributions at home, but bring your appetite for a great afternoon spent with your imaginary online friends.

A NoVAMoMe PSA from our pal bluebell

Hi folks - just a quick PSA. If you write for info about the MoMe, please give us a few words in the body of the email just so I know you are a Moron and not a spammer (moron). I do receive spam on this email account because it's sitting right here in my nic, so that's why I'm asking. I don't want to give our details to a spammer. Also, remember to check your spam folder if you don't receive a reply email.
Thanks.
bluebell

Seriously, just send an email then go to the website with the password provided. If you forget, a link to the email is on the main page, left sidebar. If you do not sign up, bluebell will be disappointed. Weasel will be disappointed, too, but it's bluebell you need to worry about.

That's it, people. Email WeaselBell Productions today!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 Yay! Gubs!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:00 PM (Wnv9h)

2 Bang

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 07:01 PM (vl19i)

3 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:01 PM (Wnv9h)

4 Hello, Weasel1

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:01 PM (BCwQW)

5 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 07:02 PM (ypFCm)

6 You have 213 comments from the Food Thread (yummy) to beat. You can't shoot your way out.

Posted by: Ciampino - say yes to scotch any scotch at May 25, 2025 07:02 PM (sPQoU)

7 How can you NOT have fun with the M1?

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 25, 2025 07:04 PM (Hdixl)

8 Ciampino - I saw a photo of a weapons wall that might interest you. Besides rifles and handguns hung on the pegboard, there was a kitten resting on a pair of the pistol holders.

Not sure if it was Bailey or not.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 07:05 PM (VNX3d)

9 Fast Eddie, if you're here, did you figure out what was going on with your Ruger a couple of weeks ago?

Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2025 07:05 PM (5S5ii)

10 No range report yet, but the plan us to shoot tomorrow.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)

11 Evening all. I hope you're enjoying Memorial Day Weekend!

Posted by: Bushi Bear at May 25, 2025 07:06 PM (l1J7s)

12 How can you NOT have fun with the M1?

Talk to the ~~hand~~ thumb.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2025 07:07 PM (5S5ii)

13 In Denver airport, about to board for home. I will read the thread when I get home. Y'all take care and have fun.

Posted by: GWB at May 25, 2025 07:08 PM (cxDhk)

14 How can you NOT have fun with the M1?
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 25, 2025 07:04 PM

Mmm...1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV7Xm0H-N5E

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:11 PM (Wnv9h)

15 In the spirit of lack of content, I got nothing.

Posted by: Fritzy at May 25, 2025 07:12 PM (T5dpv)

16 Good evening. Thanks again for the thread, Weasel. I know things are a bit discombobulated in your neck of the woods.

Hopefully, roads are passable and things are slowly returning to something resembling normalcy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:14 PM (tT6L1)

17 I particularly like the rail car Minuteman launcher.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:14 PM (TLedf)

18 My usual fundamentals focus on range trips are trigger squeeze and sight alignment. On smaller pistols (EX: snub nose revolvers) messing up the trigger squeeze will throw your sights off. I try to practice before the range visit with snap caps first. This way, if I don't have the basics down, I can usually see the sights move when I squeeze the trigger, especially in double action on a double action revolver. Shooting revolvers in double action is one of the harder skills to pick up.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:14 PM (BCwQW)

19 Howdy

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at May 25, 2025 07:16 PM (sAmhv)

20 Thanks Blake. All good now. According to reliable sources (WW) the City cleaned up the mess, but now the back yard is wide open to a busy road, so FSJ and Gertie are unable to roam freely until I get some chicken wire up.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:16 PM (TLedf)

21 Weasel, do I need to re-submit my H&K CC9 submission for the thread? I had to switch over to a new e-mail address yesterday. If you're having problems on your end, I can re-send if necessary.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:17 PM (BCwQW)

22 Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:17 PM (BCwQW)
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Not yet, I've been kind of busy and haven't had a chance to sort through email. Things will settle down soon, I hope.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:18 PM (TLedf)

23 Not yet, I've been kind of busy and haven't had a chance to sort through email. Things will settle down soon, I hope.
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:18 PM

Countdown to retirement. How short are you?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:20 PM (Wnv9h)

24 Evening gub folks.
Last week on Gun Talk they were talking about the hearing protection act hopefully passing soon.
I'm going to suppress everything if it passes. "Silencer" is scare the ignorant bullcrap so I won't call them that.
Seems there is some drama with some manufacturer and their stace on the bill. Not sure of the particulars on it.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2025 07:21 PM (xcIvR)

25 Gub! Thanks much, Weasel.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2025 07:22 PM (mH6SG)

26 And, range report, new barrel installation edition. As I told the guys I shoot with, "New barrel, new load, same idiot behind the trigger."

Truer words were never spoken. Anyway, after checking, rechecking and checking my check on the head space, I measured the chamber, set my seating die and seated some existing ammo a bit deeper so it would run in the new chamber. (I did make sure to run a couple of patches down the bore before heading to do some shooting)

I hit the range, put the trusty Magneto speed on the rifle and pulled the trigger. Holy smokes...this was ammo I'd run in the previous barrel, and in the new barrel, it was 100 fps faster. I figured a 174 grain projectile running over 3000 fps was a bit too spicy so I ended the initial range trip and headed back to the reloading bench.

I might add, I was also doing an initial zero of the scope and it wasn't even close at 50 yards, not even on paper. I looked again, rookie mistake. I hadn't set the scope back to zero after the last 1,000 yard match.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:22 PM (tT6L1)

27 Mid-June so about 3 weeks. I expect I'll be answering questions 'n stuff for a while though. So soon-ish!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:23 PM (TLedf)

28 I looked again, rookie mistake. I hadn't set the scope back to zero after the last 1,000 yard match.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:22 PM

We've all been there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:23 PM (Wnv9h)

29 Good evening gubulators. Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

30 Weasel!

Got some good shootin in this weekend! Had a moving target. It was a star shape and when you hit one steel disk it started to spin. The more disks you hit, the faster it spun. The best I did was six shots for five targets.

So fun!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (mT+6a)

31 Good evening all my favorite people. I also have no content but a small contingent of the MGC is shooting tomorrow. Yay!!
I need to practice the new eyesight. Going to try starting at 5 yds and making that work before moving out. I had the most success at that distance but started at the end of the session so need to verify. Also going to bring the Kimber with red dot and see how I do with the heavier gun.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (t/2Uw)

32 Mid-June so about 3 weeks. I expect I'll be answering questions 'n stuff for a while though. So soon-ish!
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:23 PM

Niiice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (Wnv9h)

33 Niiice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (Wnv9h)
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I'm looking forward to becoming an even bigger slob!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:25 PM (TLedf)

34 This is the Most Outstanding Lack of Content EVAH ... ! Ya done good, Weez ...

Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2025 07:26 PM (ayRl+)

35 I'm looking forward to becoming an even bigger slob!
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:25 PM

We trust WW and the doggos will keep you in line.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:27 PM (Wnv9h)

36 Weasel there's a cigar review in your email and if it's missing I can re-send. More on the way, too.

For the backyard perimeter, may I suggest the towering steel fence of the kind that now graces much of our southern border (enhanced, in places, by concertina wire, multiple fence lines with open space in between, cameras, drones, etc. I mean with the apocalypse sure to arrive before too long, might as well be ready.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:28 PM (1m82a)

37 So fun!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (mT+6a)
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Excellent! How'd you do? Those things are tough! Did you focus on fundamentals and did it help?

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:28 PM (TLedf)

38 "Range" report.

Mocked one up in the front yard for airsoft target practice today for the grankids. Drilled into them keeping pointed downrange with the finger off the trigger. Never crossoing the firing liine until the range isn't hot and the difference between a hot and cold range. Youngest grand had to retreat to nerf guns as he can't quite pull the trigger on the airsofts. Oldest (8yo ) is learning site allignment and trigger pull. Doing pretty good too.
Probably going to start BB guns out in the sticks with him next weekend.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2025 07:29 PM (xcIvR)

39 Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:28 PM (1m82a)
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Nope, I have it! Thanks bud.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:29 PM (TLedf)

40 When's the last time you checked the torque on the bedding screws on your rifle? On your scope mount?

You do, of course, have the correct torque values memorized, correct?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 07:29 PM (0sNs1)

41 My reloading bench, all set up, glares at me each time I enter the garage. But I'll get to it. Cans are empty and hungry. And more range time definitely on the way.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:29 PM (1m82a)

42 Sharon!

Please be patient with yourself. And be patient with your eyesight. Give yourself a chance to heal
and adjust.

Take the pressure off and go practice your fundamentals. The groupings will come. Everything just changed for you. You got this!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:29 PM (mT+6a)

43 Congrats Weasel! You look good in coveralls so I expect you will adjust in no time at all.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2025 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)

44 Posted by: Dr_No at May 25, 2025 07:26 PM (ayRl+)
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Aw, shucks. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:30 PM (TLedf)

45 I'm looking forward to becoming an even bigger slob!
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:25 PM

Those tractor batteries don't charge themselves.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 07:30 PM (0sNs1)

46 You do, of course, have the correct torque values memorized, correct?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 07:29 PM

Written down, but, yeah.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:31 PM (Wnv9h)

47 Anyway, I took 7 tenths of a grain out of my initial load, loaded up some more test ammo and headed out. Results were most excellent. velocities were more than manageable and was able to get zero. So, I hit the silhouette match figuring it should be okay. And, initially, it wasn't. In fact, it was so bad I was about to quit but, they talked me into staying to see if I could get the dope worked out. I looked again, and, idiot me had read my elevation notes incorrectly. So, after a 1 for 10 start, I finished strong, going 8 for 10. Even better, after I was done, I checked my velocities again and was showing a glorious ES under 10.

Anyway, looks like the initial load is good enough for steel out to 500 meters, but, I still have questions about the load will do at 1,000 yards. Which is on the agenda for tomorrow.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:31 PM (tT6L1)

48 Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2025 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)
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Thank you! I tried using suspenders the other day but wasn't impressed. Takes some getting used to, I think.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:32 PM (TLedf)

49 Nurse, sounds like a Texas Star, one of my favorite targets. At the club where I'm still not a member but shoot matches, best ever was two Texas Stars behind a Polish Plate Rack, which is a linear version of the same idea (as plates fall, weight imbalance starts to spin the whole thing). Crazy fun, lots of rounds to clean the whole set-up (16 rounds, I think).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:32 PM (1m82a)

50 Got some good shootin in this weekend! Had a moving target. It was a star shape and when you hit one steel disk it started to spin. The more disks you hit, the faster it spun. The best I did was six shots for five targets.

So fun!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:24 PM (mT+6a)
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Nice, nurse! The "Texas Star" is a hoot. Good job!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:33 PM (tT6L1)

51 Wow, did those M1 instructions bring back memories. The sling stuff is still mostly incomprehensible yet. Of all the training with that weapon, sling use has always been the worst to get used to. The rest, close order drill, actual shooting and maintenance was (to me) neat.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Weasel!

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 25, 2025 07:33 PM (hKoQL)

52 Out of habit still have suspenders on the hockey pants, but for years they've had a belt built-in that works well.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

53 Excellent! How'd you do? Those things are tough! Did you focus on fundamentals and did it help?
Posted by: Weasel

I certainly tried to! I did notice that after all the slowing down,, and focusing, speeding up wasn’t as much of a disaster as it could have been.

But. Next week will slow way down. I may not even shoot 50 rounds. Will have a plan on trigger pull. STRAIGHT BACK!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:34 PM (mT+6a)

54 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:31 PM (tT6L1)
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You really need to re-work the load and seating depth for the new barrel.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:34 PM (TLedf)

55 Screaming in Digital blew the heck of a target with a Mossberg 590A1 at the MoMe two years ago.

No bayonet, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 07:35 PM (0sNs1)

56 GWD Godspeed to you

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 07:36 PM (ypFCm)

57 M1 is the funnest toy in the collection. And also the #1 item of interest at the range. Never take it to the range without having (forcing?) at least one M1 Virgin to shoot a clip. Never hard to find victims.

NZ Frank hardest hit!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:36 PM (1m82a)

58 Was going to hit the range this afternoon to do muzzleloader with a couple of young guys from our karate school. Reschedule due to family commitments. So I get to go myself!
Thank you Weasel and thank you to the Horde.
Prayers for our departed service members, and may their sacrifices be remembered

Posted by: Coelacanth at May 25, 2025 07:36 PM (idhMh)

59 Thanks Nurse. Trying to be patient. Only had one session since the surgery so really looking forward to tomorrow. I also got a date for hip surgery. August 20th. So if things go well I should be in good shape for Texas.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2025 07:36 PM (t/2Uw)

60 After hernia surgery, I switched to suspenders for a bit. My wife pointed and laughed at my wearing a belt with suspenders but I just couldn't tighten the belt enough to support the firearm.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:37 PM (tT6L1)

61 No bayonet, though.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 07:35 PM

No bayonet?! The deuce, you say!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:37 PM (Wnv9h)

62 Of all the training with that weapon, sling use has always been the worst to get used to. The rest, close order drill, actual shooting and maintenance was (to me) neat.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Weasel!

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 25, 2025 07:33 PM (hKoQL)

The USMC still trains Marines to shoot the M27 (H&K 416) for accuracy using the sling to help stabilize the weapon today.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:38 PM (BCwQW)

63 After hernia surgery, I switched to suspenders for a bit. My wife pointed and laughed at my wearing a belt with suspenders but I just couldn't tighten the belt enough to support the firearm.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:37 PM (tT6L1)
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They were digging into my neck sort of. I'm afraid this is going to prevent me from making any progress on the 20 year backlog of chores around the house until it's sorted out.

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:39 PM (TLedf)

64 There is of course a correct way to clean a Texas Star. If it's set up with one plate at 12 o'clock, very quick shots to the plates at 10 and 2 usually leave it pretty stable, then you knock off the top one, star just sort of wobbles with the two lower plates going back and forth.

Mind you I've never been quick/accurate enough to do this, but the better/more serious guys at the matches almost always do it.

Now if the star is stable at the start with no plate at 12, it's trickier.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:39 PM (1m82a)

65 Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 25, 2025 07:33 PM (hKoQL)
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:42 PM (TLedf)

66 I don;t think I hit a single plate on that spinning target at the MoMe. Crazy difficult.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2025 07:42 PM (t/2Uw)

67 I've pondered the full M1 sling instructions and messed around with it a bit, but never really adopted it. I do use the sling in a simpler way, support arm winged out a bit to provide tension to the "platform", when shooting off-hand. Usually helps. SEAL buddy taught me to shift weight back, hips a bit behind the legs, that often helps with stability too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:42 PM (1m82a)

68 Y'all might enjoy this story. I'm in England and hired a driver yesterday because I was visiting a library about an hour from London. Our driver has lived in England 25 years but was originally from Afghanistan. He loves England, his children have great jobs, his wife is very involved in the local garden club (a serious thing in England). He is muslim by ancestry, but he says the biggest problem in this country is very tribal non-assimilating Pakistanis, Pashtuns to be specific. He gets death threats constantly, many from recent arriving relatives.

So he joined a gun club, even though he cannot own a gun personally, at least legally, and he is learning to shoot. He says life is too precious to let the worst people intimidate you into living in the worst possible way. Don't know for sure but I believe he may have recently suffered a sad canoeing accident.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2025 07:42 PM (kkJCD)

69 No bayonet?! The deuce, you say!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:37 PM (Wnv9h)

I can fix that problem this year if you want. I had my surplus Winchester Model 12 trench gun repaired (thank you, Bull Creek Arms) to shooting condition again. And I do have a WWI era bayonet (a bit beat up) to go along with it, if you want it to put in an appearance at this year's TX MoMe.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:43 PM (BCwQW)

70
Mind you I've never been quick/accurate enough to do this, but the better/more serious guys at the matches almost always do it.

Now if the star is stable at the start with no plate at 12, it's trickier.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:39 PM (1m82a)
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I've seen guys fast enough to clean a Texas Star before it could move. My best, when I was shooting pistol a lot, was 3.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:43 PM (tT6L1)

71 Now if the star is stable at the start with no plate at 12, it's trickier.
Posted by: rhomboid

That’s just no fun if it isn’t spinning. And you can play a game with a partner. Load five rounds. Take five shots. Next shooter plays clean up.

It’s a hoot!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:43 PM (mT+6a)

72 Semi-related item:

Tuesday should be interesting in terms of space launches. SpaceX has a Falcon 9 launch and a Starship launch. Rocket Lab, from NZ, also has a launch.

Hopefully this Starship launch doesn't blow itself up!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 07:45 PM (VNX3d)

73 In retail gun newz, a fairly large CA sporting goods chain (Big 5 Sports) no longer has firearms, just airguns. Haven't been in one in ages, went there for some gym clothing, clerk said they dropped gunz about a year ago or so. I was impressed that they had them at all. Mark-up on guns is good, but the hassles of course are substantial.

I don't know if all locations have discontinued guns - Big 5 is in rural areas too. Maybe it's like Walmart, where it depends on location and market.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:46 PM (1m82a)

74 Hopefully this Starship launch doesn't blow itself up!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 07:45 PM (VNX3d)
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Me too! Are they still planning on an evening launch?

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:46 PM (TLedf)

75 Hey Dudes, it's your favorite President here.... Just got back from a hike in the Andes mountains with Dalai Lama and proud to announce I am now the spokesman for "Prevagen".

Look what it did for me. So, listen Ole Joey Boom Bots and improve your memory by taking Omega XL....

Posted by: Blo Jiden at May 25, 2025 07:47 PM (A2iSa)

76 Hopefully this Starship launch doesn't blow itself up!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 07:45 PM (VNX3d)
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Me too! Are they still planning on an evening launch?
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:46 PM (TLedf)

5:30 PM EDT.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 07:47 PM (VNX3d)

77 You really need to re-work the load and seating depth for the new barrel.
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:34 PM (TLedf)
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It's on the agenda. I was trying to put a load together which was sufficient for steel. Which it was but, for a 1,000 yard match? Most likely, no.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:48 PM (tT6L1)

78 blake the best shooters I've seen do just that, star barely moves. I typically was shooting revolver when the stars were a big part of these matches, which made it more "interesting", as only one miss was allowed if you didn't want to have all that time eaten up with a reload.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:49 PM (1m82a)

79 That’s just no fun if it isn’t spinning. And you can play a game with a partner. Load five rounds. Take five shots. Next shooter plays clean up.

It’s a hoot!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 07:43 PM (mT+6a)
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If I'm going first, no way I resist the temptation to "miss."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:50 PM (tT6L1)

80 Do they still launch stuff from Wallop Island MD? (think that's it). Used to drive by on the way to Chincoteague, as I recall. Was always surprised to see the NASA signage.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:50 PM (1m82a)

81 The Bidenization of the Dems: The Last EIGHT House Members to Die in Office Were ALL Democrats!

Bring out your brain dead Democrats.....

Bring out your brain dead Democrats.....

Bring out your brain dead Democrats.....

I am not Bloody Dead Yet............

Posted by: Nancy Pelsosi at May 25, 2025 07:51 PM (FDlb9)

82 blake the best shooters I've seen do just that, star barely moves. I typically was shooting revolver when the stars were a big part of these matches, which made it more "interesting", as only one miss was allowed if you didn't want to have all that time eaten up with a reload.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:49 PM (1m82a)
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If you were shooting a revolver at a star, my hats off to you. I can shoot a revolver reasonably well but fast enough to work a star? Nope.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 07:51 PM (tT6L1)

83 M590, you need at least three.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 07:53 PM (LHPAg)

84 Loaded up another 100 rounds of .45 Colt in anticipation

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 25, 2025 07:55 PM (Hdixl)

85 Do they still launch stuff from Wallop Island MD? (think that's it). Used to drive by on the way to Chincoteague, as I recall. Was always surprised to see the NASA signage.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:50 PM (1m82a)

They do. Maybe not as much as before, but it's definitely still active.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:55 PM (BCwQW)

86 blake I was decent with the Model 66 (no mods) but not super fast. There's a guy at this club who is *seriously* good. He used to compete in regional matches. Last time I checked my score (years ago), I was totally satisfied - this guy of course was #1, then #2 was much lower (much higher total time), and I was just behind #2. This was deemed all-time best, by me, and considering how good the top guy is, wasn't bad at all.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:55 PM (1m82a)

87 if you want it to put in an appearance at this year's TX MoMe.
Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 07:43 PM

Do eeet!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 07:56 PM (Wnv9h)

88 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 07:47 PM (VNX3d)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 07:56 PM (Vz3z5)

89 Ed L a few years back when I was really interesting in getting into 3-gun, my intention was to do Heavy Metal (M1, 1911, trench broom), I think that's what the were calling WWII guns-only. Never did get a Model 12 (or a Norinco knock-off, though almost bought one), and it turned out there are no 3-guns anywhere close to me, so.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:57 PM (1m82a)

90 As I was saying:
Loaded up another 100 rounds of .45 Colt in anticipation of son and grandson's next visit. I had always thought that my 1911s would be the greatest bones of contention among my heirs when I kick the bucket, but it seems like everybody's favorite is my Single Action Army. Maybe I should get another one . . .

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 25, 2025 07:58 PM (Hdixl)

91 Good Sunday evening / Memorial Day eve, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a special lack-of-content-is-still-content greeting to our host Weasel!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 25, 2025 07:59 PM (v23vE)

92 He's so short he can sit on a rolling paper and dangle his legs.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 07:59 PM (LHPAg)

93 SOB Van Owen, I have long intended to get an Uberti (I'm too cheap for an SAA). Have a Model 1866 in 45C, so there's that beautiful reloading synergy thing.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:00 PM (1m82a)

94 Hello gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:01 PM (Ygncl)

95 Thanks, Weasel. Range time tomorrow with scampywife!

Posted by: scampydog at May 25, 2025 08:02 PM (LVaYG)

96 Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:00 PM (1m82a)

They are simply fun to shoot. And I find myself rolling up the cuffs of my jeans like Gene Autrey when I go to the range.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at May 25, 2025 08:03 PM (Hdixl)

97 At blaster acres with sra blaster doing organic tree farming stuff.

Including putting the Hammer Knife Mower into employment.

The destruction is glorious.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:04 PM (Ygncl)

98 For those interested in US military use of combat shotguns, Bruce Canfield's "Complete Guide to United States Military Combat Shotguns" is probably the most detailed study of the subject. For a more condensed (and cheaper) summary of the subject, Osprey Publishing's "US Combat Shotguns" (part of Osprey's "Weapon" book series), by Leroy Thompson, gives a good overview of the same material.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:04 PM (BCwQW)

99 M1 is the funnest toy in the collection. And also the #1 item of interest at the range. Never take it to the range without having (forcing?) at least one M1 Virgin to shoot a clip. Never hard to find victims.

Wasn't Weasel going to do a training video demonstrating Garand Thumb for those who've never experienced it?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 08:04 PM (0sNs1)

100 Thanks for the shotgun book tips, Ed L.

Do you think some sort of shotgun or shotgun-like platform might be part of the solution for (last-ditch, close range) UAV defense for ground forces?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:06 PM (1m82a)

101 Evening gub folks.
Last week on Gun Talk they were talking about the hearing protection act hopefully passing soon.
I'm going to suppress everything if it passes. "Silencer" is scare the ignorant bullcrap so I won't call them that.
Seems there is some drama with some manufacturer and their stace on the bill. Not sure of the particulars on it.
Posted by: Reforger

Part of the Big Beautiful Bill.
I hear more than one GOPe senator plans on sinking for various reasons but if it goes through i'd probably go all in too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2025 08:06 PM (/lPRQ)

102 Including putting the Hammer Knife Mower into employment.

The destruction is glorious.
Posted by: blaster

Hammer Knife Mower?
AKA Flail ?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2025 08:08 PM (/lPRQ)

103 Duncanthrax, I always load the M1 for guest shooters. It's not really that big a deal, but just easier for everyone that way. Only time I had partial Garand Thumb was, of course, when the bolt wasn't locked back, but resting on the follower. If bolt is locked, not hard to load without problems. Assuming rifle is functioning properly.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:08 PM (1m82a)

104 Not much to contribute this week beyond saying that I saw a Battleship game style target in the most recent NRA magazine. Looked fun.

Also it's kind of funny to see how the NRA parallels the Republican party.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at May 25, 2025 08:08 PM (EGr8c)

105 M1 is the funnest toy in the collection. And also the #1 item of interest at the range. Never take it to the range without having (forcing?) at least one M1 Virgin to shoot a clip. Never hard to find victims.

Wasn't Weasel going to do a training video demonstrating Garand Thumb for those who've never experienced it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 08:04 PM (0sNs1)

Like this:

https://youtu.be/xY5vB9Z0M2g?t=240

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 08:10 PM (VNX3d)

106
Wasn't Weasel going to do a training video demonstrating Garand Thumb for those who've never experienced it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 08:04 PM (0sNs1)
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I managed not to do that in a video!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 08:10 PM (Qwc34)

107 Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:57 PM (1m82a)

If you still want to have a replica trench gun, Bull Creek Arms can take an existing Winchester Model 97 or Winchester Model 12 (provided by you) and convert it to trench gun configuration. Pricing starts at around $1k. If you want to do this, I recommend sending in a well worn (but still functional) example to have it converted.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:12 PM (BCwQW)

108 Do you think some sort of shotgun or shotgun-like platform might be part of the solution for (last-ditch, close range) UAV defense for ground forces?
Posted by: rhomboid

I think a barrel of the small racer drones with just enough targeting "AI" to IFF and go for kinetic kills by hitting to attack drone rotors.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2025 08:12 PM (/lPRQ)

109 Guys and Gals - I have to run, so please have fun and try not to burn the place down in the process.

See you next week!

Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 08:12 PM (Qwc34)

110 Don't get shot if you are pregnant or thinking about becoming pregnant, especially if you're a man.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 25, 2025 08:12 PM (zZ9Wr)

111 I take that back. Not the NRA part, the contribution part.

I've been watching cane self defense videos lately. Something to keep in mind? The ADA allows you to carry a walking cane anywhere, no questions asked. So anytime you've got to be disarmed of your carry pistol at a courthouse, airport, etc you can stroll right in with your cane. They'll probably even hold the door open for you.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at May 25, 2025 08:13 PM (EGr8c)

112 I hear more than one GOPe senator plans on sinking for various reason...

The usual suspects no doubt and I won't be surprised if Mitch decides to throw us one last FU on his way out. Maybe Cornyn too. Polling has him way behind Paxton so he's likely to let his spiteful bitch flag fly.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2025 08:14 PM (/y8xj)

113 If anyone's curious, this is the site I use to see upcoming launches to space:

https://tinyurl.com/LaunchSched

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 08:15 PM (VNX3d)

114 I've been watching cane self defense videos lately. Something to keep in mind? The ADA allows you to carry a walking cane anywhere, no questions asked. So anytime you've got to be disarmed of your carry pistol at a courthouse, airport, etc you can stroll right in with your cane. They'll probably even hold the door open for you.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at May 25, 2025 08:13 PM (EGr8c)

Worked for Gandalf.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 25, 2025 08:18 PM (0aYVJ)

115 Caine good at self-defense.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Caine at May 25, 2025 08:22 PM (0sNs1)

116 Motts Hammer Knife Mower is a flail mower.

Hammer Knife sounds cool though.

It's kind of a terrifying piece of equipment.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:23 PM (Ygncl)

117 I don't know if all locations have discontinued guns - Big 5 is in rural areas too. Maybe it's like Walmart, where it depends on location and market.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 07:46 PM (1m82a)
rhomboid, I was in walmart the day they pulled the ARs. They had two Colt....damn cheap. I should had laid down the mastercard then, but told the guy 'hold those two'. Went to get something to carry them in and they were gone. I guess I won't his buddy.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 08:24 PM (LHPAg)

118 Do you think some sort of shotgun or shotgun-like platform might be part of the solution for (last-ditch, close range) UAV defense for ground forces?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:06 PM (1m82a)

This is a high priority for DOD right now. Benelli has put forward a modification of their M4 platform as a last ditch point defense against drones fitted with optics and an extended magazine. Twenty or so years ago, the USMC (DOD proponent for shotguns) tested the AA-12, a full auto shotgun firing FRAG-12 rounds. The FRAG-12 were effectively mini-grenades inside a 3" magnum shotgun cartridge. Fitted with deployable fins and a fuse, it turned the AA-12 into a rapid fire (if heavy) mini-grenade launcher with a rate of fire of about 350 rounds per minute and a range of 200 meters. Cost led the USMC to turn it down. If the FRAG-12 ammo can be fitted with a proximity/AAA fuse, this could be a viable anti-drone weapon. The old "Future Weapons" show had a segment featuring the AA-12 and FRAG-12.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:28 PM (BCwQW)

119 Oh, dear.
I am severely tardy.
Or ‘tarded.
Did I miss anything?

Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2025 08:28 PM (R6zcv)

120 Mine hit the ground first

Mine was taller.

The War Wagon
John Wayne
Kirk Douglass

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 08:28 PM (mT+6a)

121 Ed L thanks for the shotgun tip. I'm doubting I'll get around to that particular itch, unfortunately. A few years back originals or Norincos would show up for sale in SoCal, for not exorbitant prices. Not sure about now. But I'll add Bull Creek Arms to my bookmarks.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:30 PM (1m82a)

122 e. I guess I won't his buddy.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 08:24 PM

Could he have gotten a whiff of your Glock aftershave?

NTTAWWT.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 08:30 PM (0sNs1)

123 I managed not to do that in a video!
Posted by: Weasel at May 25, 2025 08:10 PM (Qwc34)
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Denying us the full Garand experience, I see!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 08:31 PM (tT6L1)

124 Interesting, Ed L. I have definitely not been keeping up with the UAV thing, but gather that soft kill (various forms) has been a big part of both sides' UAV response over You Know Where.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:32 PM (1m82a)

125 Nothing makes me feel older than seeing my MOS outmoded and kind of forgotten. 1991-94, we were hot shit, one of the first classes to qualify for MLRS. We replaced the Lance, something replaced us and I think there's some version of HIMARRS that replaced us all.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 25, 2025 08:34 PM (2cS/G)

126 Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at May 25, 2025 08:13 PM (EGr8c)

The Irish name for what you're describing is "shillelagh."

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:35 PM (BCwQW)

127 Posted by: Lincolntf at May 25, 2025 08:34 PM (2cS/G)

HIMARS is the "baby" half-sized version of MLRS, carried on a wheeled HEMMT 8X8 chassis instead of on tracks. It shoots the same rockets as MLRS. Unfortunately, the old DP-ICM rockets have now aged out of service. The last ones got sent to the Ukrainians to shoot at Ivan to save us the millions it would take to DEMIL the lot.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:38 PM (BCwQW)

128 The Irish name for what you're describing is "shillelagh."

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I'm looking at much more gray man ones. There's a company called Cane masters that has an old man cane made of hickory (I think other woods too but I'd get hickory) with a slight point manufactured in at the crook.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at May 25, 2025 08:39 PM (EGr8c)

129 122 e. I guess I won't his buddy.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 08:24 PM

Could he have gotten a whiff of your Glock aftershave?

NTTAWWT.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 08:30 PM (0sNs1)
Yeah, I was probably carrying a Glock that day. But this weekend? A big beautiful BUL .45 acp stainless, high visibility TrigiCon sights.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 08:40 PM (LHPAg)

130 @Ed L I once crashed a HEMTT into a building in Treis-Karden, not fun. Thanks for the update, though.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 25, 2025 08:41 PM (2cS/G)

131 Oh, dear.
I am severely tardy.
Or ‘tarded.
Did I miss anything?
Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2025 08:28 PM

But do you *feel* tardy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 08:41 PM (Wnv9h)

132 The M590a1 is good because once it's out of shells it makes a good club.

I like mine but it's a beast. sra blaster doesn't like shooting it. It's one of the few singletons in the laager. She liked shooting Ed Ls Benelli though.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:42 PM (Ygncl)

133 The crook also allows for swinging and grasping. Lots of speed at the tip when swung. Just a simple stick would do, of course, but a cane shaped cane would be easier at airports or theme parks.

Worth watching a few videos for the option. I see weasel has retired early so I'll probably bring it up again at some point, so please forgive me in advance.

Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Men are the romantic sex, with no concern for a mate's income or potential at May 25, 2025 08:42 PM (EGr8c)

134 Interesting, Ed L. I have definitely not been keeping up with the UAV thing, but gather that soft kill (various forms) has been a big part of both sides' UAV response over You Know Where.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 25, 2025 08:32 PM (1m82a)

Both sides have introduced fiber-optic cable reels to make soft-kill methods (jammers) completely ineffective for drones at the front line/FEBA. Hard-kill point defense against these things is a big problem right now w/o a ready solution. Note that one side has targeted Ivan's factories making both microprocessors and fiber optic cable in the latest round of behind the line drone strikes. That should give you a pretty good idea of just how important it is to one side to take Ivan's fiber optic guided drones off the battlefield.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:43 PM (BCwQW)

135 Bayonets at the TX MoMe X? OK, now we need to establish some rules. Emergency care is provided for GS wounds. Not for tannerite, as previous explained, nor for bayonet injuries. So, proceed at your own caution, knowing the nearest hospital is 25min away.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 08:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

136 Shooting slugs out of the M590a1 will put hair on your chest

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:44 PM (Ygncl)

137 Did I miss anything?
Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2025 08:28 PM (R6zcv)
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Being as I'm not privy to your last range visit, no idea.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 08:46 PM (tT6L1)

138 I have the 18.5 barrel on my 590 so no bayonet lug for me. But like i said as a melee weapon the club is effective.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:47 PM (Ygncl)

139 Shooting slugs out of the M590a1 will put hair on your chest
Posted by: blaster

What if one already has hair on their chest?

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at May 25, 2025 08:47 PM (elaR+)

140 Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:42 PM (Ygncl)

You know that Benelli M4 would make a GREAT birthday present for sra blaster, right?

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:48 PM (BCwQW)

141 blake, that reply is priceless. We done, Sir.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:48 PM (NVNRw)

142 Ben! How are things in the heart of TX?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 08:49 PM (tT6L1)

143 You know that Benelli M4 would make a GREAT birthday present for sra blaster, right?
Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:48 PM (BCwQW)

This years birthday was taken up by the Kimber CDS-9

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:49 PM (Ygncl)

144 What if one already has hair on their chest?
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at May 25, 2025 08:47 PM (elaR+)

You shot one too?

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:50 PM (Ygncl)

145 Shooting slugs out of the M590a1 will put hair on your chest
Posted by: blaster

What if one already has hair on their chest?
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale

You will sprout random tufts of hait on your back.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2025 08:51 PM (/lPRQ)

146 blake, life is good on the farm. No hogs to shoot at the moment but that is not all bad.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:51 PM (NVNRw)

147 Wait - tannerite in Texas?

We are blowing stuff up now?

Count. Me. In.

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:52 PM (Ygncl)

148
You will sprout random tufts of hait on your back.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2025 08:51 PM (/lPRQ)
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That's not funny!

Posted by: Rachel Zeigler at May 25, 2025 08:52 PM (tT6L1)

149 135 Bayonets at the TX MoMe X? OK, now we need to establish some rules. Emergency care is provided for GS wounds. Not for tannerite, as previous explained, nor for bayonet injuries. So, proceed at your own caution, knowing the nearest hospital is 25min away.....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at

There’s a lot of land.
A lot of farm equipment.
Wild hogs.

Just sayin.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 08:52 PM (mT+6a)

150 Assuming you're not focusing on fundamentals, as I suspect many of you are not, it begs the question; precisely what are you focusing on? Anything? Anything at all?

Well, the target, mostly.

Posted by: Paco at May 25, 2025 08:52 PM (mADJX)

151 Bayonets at the TX MoMe X? OK, now we need to establish some rules. Emergency care is provided for GS wounds. Not for tannerite, as previous explained, nor for bayonet injuries. So, proceed at your own caution, knowing the nearest hospital is 25min away.....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 08:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

Grateful, the trench gun bayonets can be attached while still sheathed in their scabbards. Also, for shooting, you might not want to attach it because it does add weight on the front end of the weapon. Check out a picture of a M1917 bayonet for the trench gun. You'll see that it's really a sword that happens to have a shotgun attached.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:53 PM (BCwQW)

152 Ben Had!

The hogs have taken a hiatus?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 08:53 PM (mT+6a)

153 Wait - tannerite in Texas?

We are blowing stuff up now?

Count. Me. In.
posted by Blaster
************
Trust you to come back with that response. The previous messaging from me was you do it totally at your own risk. I am not available to assist when something goes wrong. The message from Ben Had was it just won't happen.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 08:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

154 Let me end this right now. No tangerine now or ever. I know you all are kidding but.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:54 PM (NVNRw)

155 This years birthday was taken up by the Kimber CDS-9
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:49 PM (Ygncl)

Next year. There's always next year...

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:55 PM (BCwQW)

156 Speaking of fundamentals, Daughter of Blake, DoB, was really good with the draw, support hand and press the 1911 toward the target. She listened during her training a while back. (not of Dad)

DoB was good enough to notice she was diving into the shot as she pressed the trigger. And able to correct.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 08:55 PM (tT6L1)

157 154 Let me end this right now. No tangerine now or ever. I know you all are kidding but.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:54 PM (NVNRw)

Buzzkill!

Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:56 PM (Ygncl)

158 nurse, hi darlin. They chose to move right at the time the piglets were optimum eating size. My luck.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:56 PM (NVNRw)

159 This years birthday was taken up by the Kimber CDS-9
Posted by: blaster at May 25, 2025 08:49 PM (Ygncl)

Next year. There's always next year...
Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 08:55 PM (BCwQW)
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Now, now, lets not be too hasty on this. What if next year doesn't come? Need to think of these things. Justification of purchases is a lifestyle choice.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 08:57 PM (tT6L1)

160 Bayonets at the TX MoMe X? OK, now we need to establish some rules. Emergency care is provided for GS wounds. Not for tannerite, as previous explained, nor for bayonet injuries. So, proceed at your own caution, knowing the nearest hospital is 25min away.....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 08:44 PM (IQ6Gq)

Grateful, the trench gun bayonets can be attached while still sheathed in their scabbards. Also, for shooting, you might not want to attach it because it does add weight on the front end of the weapon. Check out a picture of a M1917 bayonet for the trench gun. You'll see that it's really a sword that happens to have a shotgun attached.
Posted by: Ed L
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Now, I know you've been to previous MoMes and I know you are familiar with the lunatics who attend. Again, sheathed or not, proceed at your own risk. I will not be available to help you, so find a buddy before proceeding to drive you to the hospital.
And since I am operating on a "good Samaritan" basis, I cannot be guilted into helping.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

161 How did tannerite morph into tangerine?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM (NVNRw)

162 Hey people, Tannerite party at Blaster Acres!!!!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:00 PM (IQ6Gq)

163 There's always next year. Ha, you never know so get thee to MoMe X.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:00 PM (NVNRw)

164 I like tangerines.

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 09:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

165 My mailbox has been deluged with Memorial Day sales ads. I succumbed and bought some 1911 magazines. I think Wilson Combat has a "MEM2025" for 20% off on magazines, and Ed Brown also has magazines on sale.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:01 PM (N4aB6)

166 Hey people, Tannerite party at Blaster Acres!!!!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:00 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Seems appropriate. Tannerite MoMe at Blaster's place.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 09:02 PM (tT6L1)

167 Take Grateful at her word.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:02 PM (NVNRw)

168 161 How did tannerite morph into tangerine?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM (NVNRw)

It's a plot by Big Vitamin C!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at May 25, 2025 09:03 PM (hOUT3)

169 164 I like tangerines.

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 09:01 PM
***
I'll even attend a pre-tangerine briefing if necessary or prudent.

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 09:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

170 How did tannerite morph into tangerine?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM

Autocucumber mocks us.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:03 PM (Wnv9h)

171 Grateful,

I applaud you on being clear.

Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 09:04 PM (mT+6a)

172 It's a plot by Big Vitamin C!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again
************
Absolutely! Preach it Hrothgar!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

173 On Presidents Day we buy a mattress.
What do we do on Memorial Day?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2025 09:04 PM (gbOdA)

174 Well, time to wander. For some reason, my wife tends to bake cakes on Sunday. I guess I can choke down a fresh baked goody.

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 09:05 PM (tT6L1)

175 RMBS, gun thread adjacent but I had venison carpaccio this weekend. Shoot more deer.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:05 PM (NVNRw)

176 Hey, worst case scenario, AOP can fix anything. I assume that includes humans....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

177 What do we do on Memorial Day?
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2025 09:04 PM (gbOdA)
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You're married with a new mattress and have trouble figuring out what to do on Memorial day? Maybe hit the mattress for that nap rather than the recliner?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 25, 2025 09:06 PM (tT6L1)

178 Touching a jar of Tannerite immediately reduces 30 points from your IQ. As does donning a pair of rollerblades. Playing with Tannerite while rollerblading would probably cause some folks to forget to breathe.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:07 PM (N4aB6)

179 122 e. I guess I won't his buddy.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 08:24 PM

Could he have gotten a whiff of your Glock aftershave?

NTTAWWT.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 08:30 PM (0sNs1)
The old nap trick.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 09:08 PM (LHPAg)

180 RMBS, gun thread adjacent but I had venison carpaccio this weekend. Shoot more deer.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:05 PM

Niiiice. Our new office building is across the street from a nice little market that sells venison, elk, alligator, kangaroo....Imma have some fun this fall.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:08 PM (Wnv9h)

181 I saw a program on CBS earlier today that seemed to be discussing, in documentary form, the most notable nuclear power plant accidents in history. When it occurred to me it could be more than a coincidence that they air this while Trump is pushing for the building of new nuclear power plants, I turned out.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2025 09:09 PM (36PRH)

182 Hey, worst case scenario, AOP can fix anything. I assume that includes humans....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

If you want to risk waking up on blocks with the rear end from a 1958 Studebaker bolted to your ass...

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:10 PM (N4aB6)

183 151
I guess my cat Bailey is not invited even strapped to a rifle as a living bayonet? He did a great job on me.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm all out of antibiotics at May 25, 2025 09:10 PM (sPQoU)

184 Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

Understood, Grateful. The bayonet isn't really practical; you'll understand after shooting the shotgun. But it does look pretty cool when it's attached to the shotgun.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:10 PM (BCwQW)

185 The old nap trick.
Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 09:08 PM (LHPAg)
That sounded weird, I meant the mattress thing.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 09:11 PM (LHPAg)

186 Niiiice. Our new office building is across the street from a nice little market that sells venison, elk, alligator, kangaroo....Imma have some fun this fall.
*************
Any chance that is Savenors? Had a cousin who managed that store a few years back

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

187 I guess my cat Bailey is not invited even strapped to a rifle as a living bayonet? He did a great job on me.
Posted by: Ciampino - I'm all out of antibiotics at May 25, 2025 09:10 PM

That was actually a thing in 101 Uses for a Dead Cat

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:13 PM (Wnv9h)

188 Hey, worst case scenario, AOP can fix anything. I assume that includes humans....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

If you want to risk waking up on blocks with the rear end from a 1958 Studebaker bolted to your ass...
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
*********
I salute you Sir, that's a comment of the week!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:14 PM (IQ6Gq)

189 Grateful, seconded.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:14 PM (NVNRw)

190 Watching Coke 600 and we have had many women killed in war.
Proud but very sad.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2025 09:15 PM (gbOdA)

191 Any chance that is Savenors? Had a cousin who managed that store a few years back
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:11 PM

Sadly, no. The Savenors on Charles Street that we and Julia Child knew and loved closed. Their other location is in Cambridge and I haven't gotten there yet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:15 PM (Wnv9h)

192 181 I saw a program on CBS earlier today that seemed to be discussing, in documentary form, the most notable nuclear power plant accidents in history. When it occurred to me it could be more than a coincidence that they air this while Trump is pushing for the building of new nuclear power plants, I turned out.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2025 09:09 PM (36PRH)

Of COURSE they are. That's exactly what they are doing.

If he said 'I like puppies! Every american should own a dog.' Then they would run a 2 hour special on dogs biting kids. And it would just be and endless reel of dog attacks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2025 09:15 PM (bss/y)

193 Let me end this right now. No tangerine now or ever.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:54 PM

Dang. There went the prime candidate for the next addition to the'Ette's fashion color palette.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 09:19 PM (0sNs1)

194 Come on Folks, we are losing in on #213 - got 40 minutes.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm all out of things that go up at May 25, 2025 09:19 PM (sPQoU)

195 194
closing not losing

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm all out of things that go up at May 25, 2025 09:20 PM (sPQoU)

196 Good evening, Gub-rons & Fire-ettes. I posted this yesterday on the prayer thread, and Hrothgar asked that I post it again today and tomorrow:

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=363653

Many of you will no doubt recognize this stirring tribute by our dearly departed Jim SND. As I said yesterday, this is easily the most moving tribute to our fallen heroes I have ever read. May perpetual light shine upon Jim and upon those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 25, 2025 09:20 PM (kOluj)

197 196 Thanks MKC, and you chose the right forum to do it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at May 25, 2025 09:22 PM (hOUT3)

198 196 Good evening, Gub-rons & Fire-ettes. I posted this yesterday on the prayer thread, and Hrothgar asked that I post it again today and tomorrow:

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=363653
--
Thank you.

Posted by: Ciampino - I'm still not over Jim going at May 25, 2025 09:22 PM (sPQoU)

199 If you want to risk waking up on blocks with the rear end from a 1958 Studebaker bolted to your ass...
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Upside: There will probably also be a Panhard anti-sway link.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 25, 2025 09:23 PM (XeU6L)

200 173 On Presidents Day we buy a mattress.
What do we do on Memorial Day?

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 25, 2025 09:04 PM
***
Tangerines. We eat tangerines or plan to eat tangerines (while observing all appropriate safety precautions).

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 09:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

201 Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 25, 2025 09:20 PM

Dusty in here.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:24 PM (Wnv9h)

202 Reading along, nothing to add . But wondering if someone will get their hair singe at MoMe

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 09:24 PM (ypFCm)

203 Reading along, nothing to add . But wondering if someone will get their hair singe at MoMe
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 09:24 PM

If you stand too close to the grill, yeah.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:25 PM (Wnv9h)

204 202 Reading along, nothing to add . But wondering if someone will get their hair singe at MoMe

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 09:24 PM
***
No. There will be no flammable hair moments. None. We will eat tangerines without setting each other on fire.

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 09:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

205 161 How did tannerite morph into tangerine?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM

Orange Man good?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:26 PM (HlyYF)

206 How come there's never been a song written about Mr.Tangerine Man?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 09:26 PM (0sNs1)

207 Shotguns for drones. I saw a video of some Russians blasting away at an observation drone. One had an AK, the other had a semiauto shotgun with an extended tube magazine. Hard to tell from the video, but it looked like the drone was 100 yards away.

They weren't having much luck, but then one of their buddies stepped up with the new hand launched anti-drone drone. He pointed it at the drone, fired it, and it quickly hunted down the opposing drone.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:27 PM (N4aB6)

208 How come there's never been a song written about Mr.Tangerine Man?

So. Close.

Posted by: B. Dylan at May 25, 2025 09:28 PM (/y8xj)

209 I detect a theme with all the rocket stuff.
Cool!
Watched a vid once of a Russian built FROG (Free.Rocket.Over.Groind) firing from Syria into Israel.
Snort! Absolutely hilarious.
It landed in Syria. Notorious for their inaccuracy.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2025 09:29 PM (W/lyH)

210 We have had burns and cuts and gashes that needed repair. Nothing we couldn’t handle.

Let’s keep it that way.

We are invited to someone’s home. To their livelihood.

Be respectful. If you wouldnt allow it on your own property, don’t suggest it on theirs.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 09:29 PM (mT+6a)

211 Shotguns for drones. I saw a video of some Russians blasting away at an observation drone. One had an AK, the other had a semiauto shotgun with an extended tube magazine. Hard to tell from the video, but it looked like the drone was 100 yards away.

They weren't having much luck, but then one of their buddies stepped up with the new hand launched anti-drone drone. He pointed it at the drone, fired it, and it quickly hunted down the opposing drone.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:27 PM

Battle Skeet!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:29 PM (Wnv9h)

212 175 RMBS, gun thread adjacent but I had venison carpaccio this weekend. Shoot more deer.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:05 PM

Howdy Ben Had!

GMTA. My youngest daughter was rooting around yesterday in the deep freeze in the basement. Walked into my office with the venison backstrap in one hand and the venison tenderloin in the other. "Now that is nice, you need to grill both of these!"

Venison is still thawing, but will be heading for the marinade tomorrow.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:30 PM (HlyYF)

213 You know, once Weasel's retired, we won't have to worry about him losing beauty sleep over a 0700 hrs. Zoom call with Ace.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 25, 2025 09:31 PM (0sNs1)

214 Venison is still thawing, but will be heading for the marinade tomorrow.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:30 PM

Very nice.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:31 PM (Wnv9h)

215 And burning hair is a nasty smell.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 09:31 PM (mT+6a)

216 125 Nothing makes me feel older than seeing my MOS outmoded and kind of forgotten. 1991-94, we were hot shit, one of the first classes to qualify for MLRS. We replaced the Lance, something replaced us and I think there's some version of HIMARRS that replaced us all.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 25, 2025 08:34 PM (2cS/G)

I'm old school Artillery. 90-94.
Now called "shooting degraded".

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2025 09:32 PM (xcIvR)

217 "Hey, Mr. Tannerite man
Lose a hand for me.
Sprinkle me with little bits of gore and goo..."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:32 PM (N4aB6)

218 Punching out for the night.

Thanks, Weasel, for another great Gub Thread!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:32 PM (Wnv9h)

219 Niiiice. Our new office building is across the street from a nice little market that sells venison, elk, alligator, kangaroo....Imma have some fun this fall.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:08 PM

Wow!

Did you recently move out of your previous state? Because that seems "out of character" for the denizens of THAT state.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:32 PM (HlyYF)

220 Hmm, no shooting this week, therefore, I did not miss anything this week.
Howsomever, CBD did inform that he is practicing, yes, practicing, for our upcoming long range event.
Which seems to be coming up fairly quickly.

Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2025 09:32 PM (R6zcv)

221 They weren't having much luck, but then one of their buddies stepped up with the new hand launched anti-drone drone. He pointed it at the drone, fired it, and it quickly hunted down the opposing drone.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Noted above using racing drones with enough smarts to IFF and home in on the aggressors.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 25, 2025 09:33 PM (/lPRQ)

222 Shotgun wouldn't have range IMO.
You really need a 20mm to reach out

Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 09:33 PM (ypFCm)

223 215 And burning hair is a nasty smell.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 09:31 PM (mT+6a)

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Yep..... bring back memories of branding cattle and lightning leaky propane heaters

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at May 25, 2025 09:33 PM (kOluj)

224 Pillage Idiot, have you gotten your phone back? I need to speak with your wife.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:34 PM (NVNRw)

225 Watched a vid once of a Russian built FROG (Free.Rocket.Over.Groind) firing from Syria into Israel.
Snort! Absolutely hilarious.
It landed in Syria. Notorious for their inaccuracy.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2025 09:29 PM (W/lyH)

Victory Base in Somalia was built on an old frog missle site.

Posted by: Rerorger at May 25, 2025 09:34 PM (xcIvR)

226 Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:27 PM (N4aB6)

That's why off the shelf shotguns aren't the solution to FPV drones with fiber optic cable guidance. Better ammo for the shotguns is necessary. As discussed up-thread, the FRAG-12 ammo system could serve as the basis for an anti-drone round if fitted with an anti-aircraft type fuse.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:34 PM (BCwQW)

227
You think you have problems.

Sat back to warch "Big Bad Mama" on the U-Tube and saw it was a porno with Captain James T. Kirk and Sgt "Pepper" Anderson the Police Woman and now hav'ta figger out it was the pre-roll, the all day vodka, or just a random hallucination.

Posted by: Auspex at May 25, 2025 09:35 PM (j4U/Z)

228 Did you recently move out of your previous state? Because that seems "out of character" for the denizens of THAT state.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:32 PM

Not yet, unfortunately.

Boston has a lot of very good gourmet food shops. Even the lefties like good ingredients. Savenors would have whole rattlesnake, lion, camel, you name it. I'm sure it shocked a lot of lefties, but everyone else appreciated it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:36 PM (Wnv9h)

229 Nothing makes me feel older than seeing my MOS outmoded and kind of forgotten. 1991-94, we were hot shit, one of the first classes to qualify for MLRS. We replaced the Lance, something replaced us and I think there's some version of HIMARRS that replaced us all.
Posted by: Lincolntf at May 25, 2025 08:34 PM (2cS/G)
***

When VII Corps.fired the prep fires before attacking across the berm in Desert Storm, the MLRS battalions were incredible! They turned the day into night.
And the iraqis invented a name for them. Metalle Gefarb. Steel Rain.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2025 09:36 PM (W/lyH)

230 224 Pillage Idiot, have you gotten your phone back? I need to speak with your wife.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:34 PM

I have!

Want to set up a time to have her call you?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:37 PM (HlyYF)

231 169
naartjies - Afrikaans and South African English.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_unshiu

Posted by: Ciampino - Free Staaaaat! at May 25, 2025 09:37 PM (sPQoU)

232 Shotgun wouldn't have range IMO.
You really need a 20mm to reach out
Posted by: Skip at May 25, 2025 09:33 PM (ypFCm)

Off the shelf ammo, no. Improved ammo like the FRAG-12 with deployable stabilizing fins and a proper proximity fuse, maybe.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:38 PM (BCwQW)

233 Pillage Idiot best if I have a time to call her.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:38 PM (NVNRw)

234 I was a medic in a Lance missile battalion. Couple of buddies were Stinger guys, but the Army had pulled Stingers from the arsenal, so one guy became the mail clerk, and the others were short-timers anyway, so they became duty drivers and staff duty phone jockeys. About the time I was short, our battalion was being absorbed into another unit, but the Lance missile was most certainly No Longer a Thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 25, 2025 09:38 PM (0aYVJ)

235 210 We have had burns and cuts and gashes that needed repair. Nothing we couldn’t handle.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2025 09:29 PM
***
and that was just from Disco Doof's dance floor moves after dark!

Posted by: TRex at May 25, 2025 09:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

236 161 How did tannerite morph into tangerine?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 08:58 PM

Orange Man good?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
*********
50,000 bonus points for the clever response!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:41 PM (IQ6Gq)

237 When VII Corps.fired the prep fires before attacking across the berm in Desert Storm, the MLRS battalions were incredible! They turned the day into night.
And the iraqis invented a name for them. Metalle Gefarb. Steel Rain.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2025 09:36 PM (W/lyH)

We sent the last DPICM rounds for MLRS/HIMARS to the Ukrainians before they aged out. Ivan has learned the hard way about "Steel Rain" too. Ukrainians haven't been shy about posting video showing "Steel Rain" coming down on Ivan when his officers are dumb enough to have him assemble in mass formations.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:41 PM (BCwQW)

238 Hey, worst case scenario, AOP can fix anything. I assume that includes humans....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

If you want to risk waking up on blocks with the rear end from a 1958 Studebaker bolted to your ass...
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:10 PM (N4aB6)

On the other hand, lower leg or foot injuries might get replaced with whitewalls.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 09:42 PM (VNX3d)

239 Boston has a lot of very good gourmet food shops. Even the lefties like good ingredients. Savenors would have whole rattlesnake, lion, camel, you name it. I'm sure it shocked a lot of lefties, but everyone else appreciated it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 25, 2025 09:36 PM

I read farther into thread after your initial post, and they seem well known.

That business being successful surprises me for Bwoston and Cambridge!

I guess every cloud does have the possibility of a tasty lining.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:42 PM (HlyYF)

240 Need one of those old 4 gauge shotguns built to auto load with shells filled with 2 shot or 4 buck for drones. All you really have to do is mess up a rotor and they are all but uncontrolable.
We trained at NTC in the 90's to shoot down a drone but to simulate a fighter. After around 20,000 50 call rounds from M2's we hit it 3 times and the pilot was thinking we hadn't hit it. He never noticed. I envied that job for months. Motherfucker got paid to build and fly model airplanes.

Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2025 09:43 PM (xcIvR)

241 Well we passed the target #213 so Dildo is trailing again - hey but his food is phenomenal.

Posted by: Ciampino - 214 for the win at May 25, 2025 09:45 PM (sPQoU)

242 233 Pillage Idiot best if I have a time to call her.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:38 PM

Awesome, will do!

She has grades turned in, but I think she is picking up an extra week at school to help the admins finish up their school year. She can almost certainly take a break as needed on Tuesday, or she can arrange for tomorrow if you are not tied up doing family events.

I will get a time from her and text you!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 09:46 PM (HlyYF)

243 Boston has a lot of very good gourmet food shops. Even the lefties like good ingredients. Savenors would have whole rattlesnake, lion, camel, you name it. I'm sure it shocked a lot of lefties, but everyone else appreciated it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState
********
My aforementioned cousin is a good and true lefty. I love her, but her politics......

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 25, 2025 09:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

244 241 Well we passed the target #213 so Dildo is trailing again - hey but his food is phenomenal.
Posted by: Ciampino - 214 for the win at May 25, 2025 09:45 PM (sPQoU)
Maybe CBD will do a thread from Normandy tomorrow.

Posted by: Eromero at May 25, 2025 09:47 PM (LHPAg)

245 We sent the last DPICM rounds for MLRS/HIMARS to the Ukrainians before they aged out. Ivan has learned the hard way about "Steel Rain" too. Ukrainians haven't been shy about posting video showing "Steel Rain" coming down on Ivan when his officers are dumb enough to have him assemble in mass formations.
Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:41 PM (BCwQW)

My team (Corps Artillery G-2 Section) did all the targeting for the.23 ATACMS missions we fired. One target.was.a.SA-2 battery. BDA after the war showed five burnt out launchers and a Fire Control.van melted.to slag. Those bomblets were incredible!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2025 09:47 PM (W/lyH)

246 Pillage Idiot, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 25, 2025 09:47 PM (NVNRw)

247 > I saw a program on CBS earlier today that seemed to be discussing, in documentary form, the most notable nuclear power plant accidents in history.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 25, 2025 09:09 PM (36PRH)

I'm guessing they didn't bother to mention that nuclear power has been operating in this country for 70 years without a single fatality to a member of the general public, and significantly fewer fatalities to workers than any other energy source, including solar and wind (people fall off roofs and towers, yo).

Fortunately, neither Trump nor an increasingly large proportion of the American people give a shit what drivel See BS "News" might spout.

> If he said 'I like puppies! Every american should own a dog.' Then they would run a 2 hour special on dogs biting kids.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 25, 2025 09:15 PM (bss/y)

It's been said that Trump could cure cancer, and the propaganda stories would be about all the doctors he's put out of work.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 25, 2025 09:47 PM (W5ArC)

248 238
On the other hand, lower leg or foot injuries might get replaced with whitewalls.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 25, 2025 09:42 PM (VNX3d)
----
He'll just install white spats. Then you're stuck blancoing them every day.

Posted by: Ciampino - blancoing - a hated chore at May 25, 2025 09:49 PM (sPQoU)

249 Hmm... I'll bet you could reprogram one of those anti-drone drones to go after ducks. Call it an "artificial falcon" or something.

Yeah, I'm sure that would violate every game law there is, but it's amusing to think about.

"Not sporting"?

Nothing against those who enjoy sport hunting, but for me hunting has always been for meat.

I'm just glad I don't have to rely on it any more. Things were different when I was a kid. We had some store-bought meat, but those squirrels and rabbits were a nice addition to the menu.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 25, 2025 09:53 PM (W5ArC)

250 Trump should announce that he shits every day.
Every Lefty would become constipated with lower colon blockages.

Posted by: Ciampino - blancoing - a hated chore then at May 25, 2025 09:53 PM (sPQoU)

251 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 25, 2025 09:47 PM (W5ArC)

The new generation of nuclear reactors are supposedly civilianized models of the current nuclear reactors powering USN nuclear subs. Increasing the number of reactors produced should reduce (crosses fingers) the individual unit price of the reactors for everyone, including the USN.

Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:56 PM (BCwQW)

252 > Need one of those old 4 gauge shotguns built to auto load with shells

A friend's grandpa had an 8 gauge hanging on the wall when I was a kid. It was a monster. I don't recall ever seeing it fired (might've been illegal for hunting by then, might also have been an old-school Damascus barrel, the kind that likes to peel back like Elmer Fudd's gun if you try to put a modern round through them).

I can only imagine a 4.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 25, 2025 09:56 PM (W5ArC)

253 Trump should announce that...

He *loves* wind & solar power!

Heh. That'll put an end to that BS.

Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2025 09:56 PM (rdVOm)

254 Trump should announce that...

He *hates* gubz.

Leftards will be all about repealing the NFA.

Posted by: JQ at May 25, 2025 09:57 PM (rdVOm)

255 > the individual unit price of the reactors for everyone, including the USN.
Posted by: Ed L at May 25, 2025 09:56 PM (BCwQW)

Yep. Not only saves design costs and custom modification costs, but having a standard design should make getting regulatory approval much easier (especially now that Trump is putting nukes on a fast track).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 25, 2025 09:58 PM (W5ArC)

256 We trained at NTC in the 90's to shoot down a drone but to simulate a fighter. After around 20,000 50 call rounds from M2's we hit it 3 times and the pilot was thinking we hadn't hit it. He never noticed. I envied that job for months. Motherfucker got paid to build and fly model airplanes.
Posted by: Reforger at May 25, 2025 09:43 PM (xcIvR)

In the late 80s, I knew a guy who knew the guy who built the drones for NTC. He claimed that a self destruct charge was built into the drones, and every now and then they would blow one up to keep the troops from being discouraged by their inability to hit them. Was it true? I dunno.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 09:58 PM (N4aB6)

257 Maybe Cornyn too. Polling has him way behind Paxton so he's likely to let his spiteful bitch flag fly.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2025 08:14 PM (/y8xj)

I can see Cornyn supporting it so he can go home and say “See! I support Trump! I am MAGA all the way and Paxton WILL LOSE in November!!!”

Then assuming he gets another six year term, Cornyn will return to form.

Posted by: Cow Demon at May 25, 2025 09:58 PM (dSBTP)

258 Nood.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 25, 2025 10:00 PM (N4aB6)

259 Weasel, you magnificent bastard! Apparently my youngest daughter has read your book.

She has now adopted the chihuahua mix rescue that she had been fostering.

I think it must be mixed with some small type of terrier. She hunts both rabbits and birds in our backyard with a ferocity that does not match her size.

Thanks for a Gub Thread even when you are so busy!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 25, 2025 10:14 PM (HlyYF)

260 /sock

Posted by: Oddbob at May 25, 2025 10:22 PM (/y8xj)

261 Late but, guns!

Did get another 100 rounds through my new G26 slide. Accuracy was good for such a short barrel and grip.

Did have several light primer strikes with S&B ammo. Also ran into the same problem with my G30, which I've been carrying all week which is...alarming.

So doing a detail clean tomorrow. We'll see if that fixes the light primer strike. In the mean time, the PSA Micro Dagger is on deck for EDC.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 25, 2025 11:13 PM (xcxpd)

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