Mid-Morning Art Thread

General Sam Houston at San Jacinto
S. Seymour Thomas

[Hat Tip: Bulg]

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 there wolf

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:30 AM (gbOdA)

2 1?

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2025 09:30 AM (g47mK)

3 "They went thataway!"

Posted by: General Sam Houston at May 23, 2025 09:31 AM (7fElN)

4 Beautiful horse.

Posted by: Tuna at May 23, 2025 09:31 AM (lJ0H4)

5 Horsey looks mad.

Posted by: She Hobbit at May 23, 2025 09:31 AM (mlFvd)

6 Heroic

Posted by: Don Black at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (AOsQT)

7 Can't you see the no dumping sign, a-hole?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (cWffP)

8 >>Seymour Thomas

"We'll get to that next!"
-- Minnesota

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (F/B4x)

9 Horse: "I'm gonna have this asswipe off my back within the next mile. Just wait and see if I don't."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (W5ArC)

10 Over there! That guy in the dress is Santa Anna!

Posted by: huerfano at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (n2swS)

11 What the drama going on in the background on the right?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2025 09:33 AM (F/B4x)

12
No dog, but horse. Art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2025 09:33 AM (QnmlO)

13 Can't you see the no dumping sign, a-hole?
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (cWffP)
----
Horses can't read.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2025 09:33 AM (7fElN)

14 Texas Revolution, baby!
I like this!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 23, 2025 09:33 AM (NpAcC)

15 >>"They went thataway!"

"Daniel Boone saw a bear!"
"Where?"
"Over there!"

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2025 09:34 AM (F/B4x)

16 I still say he should have executed the first four hundred including Santa Anna, since they executed everyone in The Alamo.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 09:34 AM (l6jBh)

17 Caption:

"Look Over There, Men. Cowgirl Freedom is Showing Her Glorious Boobs of Freedom.

Now, Fight! For Freedom! For Texas! For Boobs!"

Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2025 09:34 AM (iJfKG)

18 Accurate so long as this is the very beginning of the battle. Houston was shot in the leg early on, fracturing his tibia, and he spent the rest of the day getting medical attention in his tent.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2025 09:35 AM (uWKK8)

19 "How many times do I have to tell you retards? The latrine is over there, down hill from our water supply. DOWN hill."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:35 AM (W5ArC)

20 Horsey looks mad.
Posted by: She Hobbit

Pawing in the valley and saying "Ha! Ha!" to the trumpets.

Or however it's phrased in the Book of Job.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:36 AM (77rzZ)

21 > 10 Over there! That guy in the dress is Santa Anna!
Posted by: huerfano at May 23, 2025 09:32 AM (n2swS)

I had no idea that Santa had gone trans.

I always had my suspicions about that dentist elf, though.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:36 AM (W5ArC)

22 "He's in the basement!"

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 09:37 AM (lCppi)

23 "I don't need a stupid map! I know where I am going!! Go right!"

Posted by: runner at May 23, 2025 09:37 AM (g47mK)

24 Would most definitely hang! And I don't mean just Santa Ana.

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 09:37 AM (lCppi)

25 Whether I want to Seymour Thomas would depend on whether it was Heather Thomas or Helen Thomas.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:38 AM (W5ArC)

26 >> "He's in the basement!"

CHHHHHAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGEEEE!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 23, 2025 09:38 AM (F/B4x)

27 For me, the most interesting thing about this painting is the tricorn hat.

Were those still a thing in 1836? Or in this case is it artistic license meant to draw a parallel with the American Revolution, when everybody wore them?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:38 AM (77rzZ)

28 Trivia: in later life, Santa Anna introduced chewing gum to the United States.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:39 AM (W5ArC)

29 The two guys at the far right are playing cards.

Posted by: Give me all your threes at May 23, 2025 09:39 AM (dg+HA)

30 "See Jackson standing there like a..."

Oh, wait a minute. Wrong war.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:40 AM (77rzZ)

31 "Guys, the food truck is over there. All the tacos you can eat!"

Posted by: dantesed at May 23, 2025 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)

32 Once again I cannot find details.

It may be at the San Jac museum up the road about 8 miles from me.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:40 AM (gbOdA)

33 31 "Guys, the food truck is over there. All the tacos you can eat!"
Posted by: dantesed at May 23, 2025 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)

Cause we done killed most of them Mexicans.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:41 AM (gbOdA)

34 Accurate so long as this is the very beginning of the battle. Houston was shot in the leg early on, fracturing his tibia, and he spent the rest of the day getting medical attention in his tent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2025 09:35 AM (uWKK

The whole battle lasted 18 minutes. It was all "the very beginning".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 23, 2025 09:41 AM (ExV1e)

35 "S. Seymour Thomas" might sound good in a limerick.

Posted by: Hint, hint at May 23, 2025 09:41 AM (dg+HA)

36 I really don't know much about Sam Houston other than that he was a soldier. guess I will have to read up on him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2025 09:42 AM (UT7mS)

37 Get that boy a whip and send him to the Rio Grande.

Posted by: red speck at May 23, 2025 09:43 AM (0Id0S)

38 Battle of New Orleans has a song.
Battle of San Jac needs one.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:43 AM (gbOdA)

39 If this Sam Houston guy was so great, why didn't they name anything after him?

Posted by: Person from New England at May 23, 2025 09:45 AM (dg+HA)

40 “but once he acquired ‘Bruin’ he could make the trip from Austin in three days instead of four, and he rode him habitually for years.”

Bruin was a mule.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:45 AM (gbOdA)

41 Battle of San Jac needs one.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:43 AM (gbOdA)

Sir Robin's minstrels tried to write one about how he bravely ran away but he was caught.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 23, 2025 09:45 AM (ExV1e)

42 "Point and Shoot"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 23, 2025 09:45 AM (Q4IgG)

43
"Yonder's the Piggly Wiggly."

Oh, sorry, wrong movie!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 09:46 AM (xG4kz)

44 Horse names is Saracen
But no Texas history expert seems to confirm this.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:46 AM (gbOdA)

45 C'mon boys! We'll head 'em off at the pass!

Posted by: Gen Sam at May 23, 2025 09:47 AM (Aqu9a)

46 I really don't know much about Sam Houston other than that he was a soldier. guess I will have to read up on him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Fen, he was a fascinating figure. Served as governor of both Tennessee and Texas. He lost the latter position in 1861 due to his opposition to secession. He was also a member of the Cherokee tribe.

There's a funny story about him when he was on his deathbed. All the newspapermen were gathered around his house awaiting news of his death. Now, Sam Houston hated newspaper reporters, so they were quite surprised when someone came out of the house and said that Houston wanted two reporters to come to his bedside. The two reporters went into Sam's bedroom, and he requested that one of them stand on each side of the bed. When they asked him why, Sam responded because he wanted to die like Christ (i.e., between two criminals).

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

47 “but once he acquired ‘Bruin’ he could make the trip from Austin in three days instead of four, and he rode him habitually for years.”

Houstons is an upscale TGIFridays.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:48 AM (gbOdA)

48 With less FLARE

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:48 AM (gbOdA)

49 Little known fact: Houston is pointing out a group of pregnant Mexicans hiding under a bush and asking his men to furnish them food, housing, a government check, and a cellphone, in perpetuity. Which is weird, because he didn't even know what a cellphone was.

Posted by: red speck at May 23, 2025 09:48 AM (0Id0S)

50 If this Sam Houston guy was so great, why didn't they name anything after him?
Posted by: Person from New England at May 23, 2025 09:45 AM (dg+HA)

Y'all wouldn't believe some of the folks who have things named after them down here. Deaf Smith County comes to mind.

You can read about that fella here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaf_Smith

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 23, 2025 09:48 AM (ExV1e)

51 Battle of New Orleans has a song.
Battle of San Jac needs one.
Posted by: rhennigantx

"The Ballad of the Alamo" is pretty good.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

52
Didja all say that Crockett was over there? That loud mouth CongressCow Crockett?

Send a whiff of grapeshot over yonder, if you please.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 09:49 AM (xG4kz)

53 Quite a set of chops on that guy.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2025 09:49 AM (RIvkX)

54 The First Texan, 1956 with Joel McCrea. Good movie!

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at May 23, 2025 09:49 AM (6/2v3)

55 No Dumbass! Right there next to the milk!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2025 09:50 AM (cYBz/)

56 https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/7247

Sams big statue.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 09:50 AM (gbOdA)

57 Refused to swear an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy
That ended his political careear

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 23, 2025 09:51 AM (Ft+0v)

58 I'm 67 ft tall, stand on a 10 ft granite base, and keep a lookout over I-45 near the Huntsville exits.

Posted by: Gen Sam at May 23, 2025 09:51 AM (Aqu9a)

59 How bad is your given first name that you go with 'Seymour' instead?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2025 09:51 AM (cYBz/)

60 Medicine man lead me up though town
Indian ground, so far down
Cut up land, each house, a pool
Kids wearing water wings, drink in cool

Follow dry river bed
Watch Scout and Guides make powwow signs
Past Geronimo's disco
Sittin' Bull steakhouse, white men dream

A rattle in the old man's sack, see
Look at mountaintop, keep climbing up
Way above us the desert snow
White wind blow

I hold the line
The line of strength that pulls me through the fear
San Jacinto
I hold the line
San Jacinto
-Peter Gabriel

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 23, 2025 09:51 AM (RIvkX)

61 > 27 For me, the most interesting thing about this painting is the tricorn hat.

Were those still a thing in 1836?

Dunno, but all the other pictures I can find with Houston wearing headgear show a sort of hybrid slouch/cowboy hat.

On the other hand, he was born in 1793, so he might've still had a tricorn or two hanging around the wardrobe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:51 AM (W5ArC)

62 And Sam Houston was born in Rockbridge County, Virginia. I've seen the marker commemorating his birthplace.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:52 AM (77rzZ)

63 We'll put the stadium over there. Right behind where all those Mexicans are napping.

Posted by: DaveA at May 23, 2025 09:52 AM (FhXTo)

64 "The Invention of the Miniskirt", by Seymour Heine.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 09:53 AM (W5ArC)

65 I love that big Sam statue!!!

"16 I still say he should have executed the first four hundred including Santa Anna, since they executed everyone in The Alamo.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 09:34 AM (l6jBh)"

The main reason they didn't was because Houston knew they had gotten very lucky to catch Santa Anna with his pants down (literally) and that Mexico, and its remaining armies, still vastly outnumbered them. They needed a negotiated peace where the Mexicans agreed to leave for good, not something that would spark an even bigger military reprisal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2025 09:54 AM (uWKK8)

66 -Peter Gabriel
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Interesting reference, considering that Phil Collins, Gabriel's former Genesis bandmate. Is a huge Alamo buff who donated his collection of Alamo memorabilia to the State of Texas several years ago.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:56 AM (77rzZ)

67 Morning, Art Consumers,

Sam Houston here looks like a character actor I've seen a lot on Grit. Can't quite dredge up his name, but the face is familiar.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 09:56 AM (omVj0)

68 The San Jacinto Mall used to be pretty nice. For being on the east side of Houston.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 09:56 AM (VofaG)

69 Interesting and effective painting. The background and sky is almost gentle with its soft, natural colors. To me, the horse sets the mood: dark, energetic, ready and eager for battle against the enemy forces after the Alamo and the massacres committed by the Mexican army. The soldiers on the right are a hint of the fierce battle to come. By contrast, Sam Houston seems sort of generic with the stereotype heroic pose and gestures. I'm sure that wasn't intended by Thomas but that is my reaction. There is a hint of Jacques-Louis David influence here. Bet the painting was a hit in Texas.

Check out some of Thomas' other paintings. They are beautifully done and reflect an emotional quieter sense.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2025 09:56 AM (yTvNw)

70
I knew a family whose name was Seymour when I was a younger'un.

Their youngest child is a committed lefty whose self-portraits on social media are reliably graced with his visage sporting what appears to be a permanent scowl.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 09:57 AM (xG4kz)

71 Those stirrup covers, or whatever they're called, are interesting.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 09:58 AM (omVj0)

72
Hmmm,, I'll allow it

Posted by: Zombie Bob Ross at May 23, 2025 09:59 AM (5hfjS)

73 And Sam Houston was born in Rockbridge County, Virginia. I've seen the marker commemorating his birthplace.
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:52 AM (77rzZ)

Not specific to Houston I don't believe but thus saying ' I wasn't born in Texas but I got there as fast as I could'

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 09:59 AM (VofaG)

74 Nice one, Bulg.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2025 09:59 AM (CQE5S)

75 Well done, boys! First round at Gilley's is on me.

Posted by: Gen Sam at May 23, 2025 10:00 AM (Aqu9a)

76
He could not have been a General -- where's the billboard-and-a-half of ribbons on his left chest like that stalwart fighter, General Milley?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:00 AM (xG4kz)

77 Looks left, points right.

No wonder the horse is confused.

Posted by: t-bird at May 23, 2025 10:00 AM (7bp2g)

78 Sam Houston here looks like a character actor I've seen a lot on Grit. Can't quite dredge up his name, but the face is familiar.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,

He kind of resembles the actor who played him in Wayne's Alamo movie (except that the actor didn't have those rockin' burns).

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:01 AM (77rzZ)

79 Did AIT at Fort Sam Houston. It's where I met my wife.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 23, 2025 10:01 AM (PSEDc)

80 18 getting medical attention in his tent
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2025 09:35 AM (uWKK

Is that what they're calling it these days.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2025 10:01 AM (CQE5S)

81
Boys, I have seen the Promised Land, and it is filled border to border with Buc-ees stores!

* loud cheering *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:02 AM (xG4kz)

82 The Tri Corner hat is interesting for the period. I wonder when it went out of style completely.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 10:02 AM (VofaG)

83 Quite a set of chops on that guy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Reminds me of my high-school graduation photo. One of my friends quipped that I was going for the "Amish-farmer" look.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:03 AM (77rzZ)

84 How bad is your given first name that you go with 'Seymour' instead?
Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2025

***
One of the Jax Beer TV commercials with Mike Nichols and Elaine May has a cowboy and his horse in a bar. The cowboy asks for a Jax for his horse, and the barmaid refuses. The cowboy lists all the selling points of the beer and finishes, "My horse is parched, lady!" "No, no, we can't serve beer to horses!"

Cowboy to horse: "I'm sorry, boy."

Horse: "That's all right, Seymour. I'm driving anyway."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:03 AM (omVj0)

85 When they asked him why, Sam responded because he wanted to die like Christ (i.e., between two criminals).
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 09:47 AM (77rzZ)

Lol. Being a Texas transplant I had no idea about all of that, except the bit about resigning as governor due to secession.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:03 AM (lFFaq)

86 Seems the painting above should be of a grey horse.

Seems Houston had two horses shot out from under him at San Jacinto.

https://tinyurl.com/mej9sc5k

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:05 AM (l6jBh)

87 Huntsville is the home of the Wall's Unit which houses Texas's death row, with over 400 prisoners executed since 1974.

I think we added 5 this year.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:05 AM (gbOdA)

88 What in Sam Houston is goin' on here?!??!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:06 AM (wtvvX)

89 Did AIT at Fort Sam Houston. It's where I met my wife.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

MUCH more honorable than meeting your future ex-wife just outside the back gate at Fort Polk.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2025 10:06 AM (cYBz/)

90 The hidden meaning behind a horse statues pose

https://tinyurl.com/25ch3tjh

Works this time!

Posted by: scottst at May 23, 2025 10:08 AM (qcvs8)

91 Horse - "Get off me you oaf!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2025 10:08 AM (y9j25)

92 He kind of resembles the actor who played him in Wayne's Alamo movie (except that the actor didn't have those rockin' burns).
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025

***
Richard Boone. Not who I was thinking of, but there's some resemblance.

Here's the guy: https://tinyurl.com/yc5expe3

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:08 AM (omVj0)

93
The Tri Corner hat is interesting for the period. I wonder when it went out of style completely.

Posted by: polynikes

Isn't that the headgear of this site's favorite lass, Hat Girl?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:10 AM (xG4kz)

94
And Sam Houston was born in Rockbridge

That's funny -- I don't remember seeing him in "Blazing Saddles"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:11 AM (xG4kz)

95 Is the Horde slow out the gate with comments this morning?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2025 10:12 AM (y9j25)

96 Isn't that the headgear of this site's favorite lass, Hat Girl?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:10 AM (xG4kz)

At one time until Cake Girl took over.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 10:12 AM (VofaG)

97 And Sam Houston was born in Rockbridge

That's funny -- I don't remember seeing him in "Blazing Saddles"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

The picture above? He's telling a soldier he'll have to go back for a shitload of more dimes!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:13 AM (l6jBh)

98 Is the Horde slow out the gate with comments this morning?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Everyone is looking up Texas history.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:13 AM (l6jBh)

99 Interesting that we have a painting, unobjectionable in both topic and execution, based on an heroic figure and yet we're struggling to reach the century mark.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 23, 2025 10:13 AM (ExV1e)

100
Richard Boone. Not who I was thinking of, but there's some resemblance.

Here's the guy: https://tinyurl.com/yc5expe3

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Paladin!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:14 AM (xG4kz)

101 Time traveling Elon shouldn’t stand that close to the hind end of a horse.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 23, 2025 10:14 AM (cduTK)

102 Texas history?

That may take awhile.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2025 10:14 AM (y9j25)

103 Richard Boone. Not who I was thinking of, but there's some resemblance.

Here's the guy: https://tinyurl.com/yc5expe3

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

Paladin!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Have Gun Will Travel

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:14 AM (l6jBh)

104
* throws self on ground, panting *

Jeebus, but that was a slog to get this far!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:15 AM (xG4kz)

105 Dennis Quaid played a good Houston in the Alamo remake. First time I recall hearing catamite used in a movie. Or anywhere, actually.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at May 23, 2025 10:16 AM (MZ+PY)

106 The artist, born in Texas and lived in France for a while before returning to the states, lived from 1868 to 1956. Think of all the changes in those almost 90 years: aftermath of the Civil War, the first powered flight, two world wars, depression, roaring twenties, the US becoming the world power. It would be interesting to see what he painted later in life versus his time in France.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2025 10:16 AM (yTvNw)

107 Fake Jake the Snake explains why he kept quiet about Biden’s mental decline.

Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: Book salesman Jake Tapper says he was simply "too polite" in the past, which is why he missed President Biden's very public mental decline.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)

108 36 I really don't know much about Sam Houston other than that he was a soldier. guess I will have to read up on him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2025 09:42 AM (UT7mS)

Sam held a LOT of high offices over a 38-year political career:

Congressman from Tennessee
Governor of Tennessee
Representative in the Texas House
President of Texas
Senator from Texas
Governor of Texas

And he also found time to kick Mexico's ass.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (wtvvX)

109 Turns out it is possible to discipline judges.

Florida judge suspended for telling too many bad jokes

https://shorturl.at/sWxuA

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (L/fGl)

110 Why did Santa Ana bring only 2000 men to the Alamo ?

He only had two cars.

Only the punch line

( Pushes Mexican out of the plane ) Remember the Alamo !!

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (VofaG)

111 Richard Boone. Not who I was thinking of, but there's some resemblance.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
*
Paladin!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025

***
Boone's signature role -- but he also did villains beautifully. See him in Hombre with Paul Newman and Big Jake with John Wayne. Recently I watched a 1953 noir called Fear No More in which he plays a homicide cop who is slowly descending into madness. He had me hating the cop. Great work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (omVj0)

112 So is it happening, happening in part, or not at all?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 07:34 AM

Grok full response: https://bit.ly/3YZjNE7

In summary, tax relief for Social Security recipients is happening in part through the $4,000 deduction, but it’s not a full elimination of taxes on benefits, is income-limited, and only applies to those 65 and older, despite Social Security benefits starting at 62. The Senate still needs to approve the bill, and changes could occur.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (P5BPp)

113 "The Invention of the Miniskirt", by Seymour Heine.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

"Under the Bleachers," by Seymour Butts.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (77rzZ)

114 What is the point of TSA?

Svetlana Dali has been convicted of evading security at JFK to board a plane for Paris.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 23, 2025 10:19 AM (y9j25)

115 Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: Book salesman Jake Tapper says he was simply "too polite" in the past, which is why he missed President Biden's very public mental decline.
____

He wasn't polite to Lara Trump when she brought the subject up. That's when the pettifoggery of how dare you criticize someone with a stutter came about.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 23, 2025 10:19 AM (Dv3i1)

116 Of course King of the Hill had an episode on the Alamo and one on teaching Texas history.

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 10:19 AM (VofaG)

117 favorite lass, Hat Girl?

Festive little hat?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2025 10:20 AM (8zt8L)

118 Richard Boone died in St Augustine, Florida.

Posted by: dantesed at May 23, 2025 10:20 AM (Oy/m2)

119
In summary, tax relief for Social Security recipients is happening in part through the $4,000 deduction, but it’s not a full elimination of taxes on benefits, is income-limited, and only applies to those 65 and older, despite Social Security benefits starting at 62. The Senate still needs to approve the bill, and changes could occur.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 23, 2025 1

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This morning, with this, I did a very rough back-of-the-envelope guesstimate of what my taxes might be for this year. If I send some quarterly payments to the IRS, I may only owe $300 or so next April. April of '27 will be a whole new ball game -- but that is two years away.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:21 AM (omVj0)

120 Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: Book salesman Jake Tapper says he was simply "too polite" in the past, which is why he missed President Biden's very public mental decline.

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I keep bringing up a scene in Steven Spielberg's The Post where Tom Hanks as Ben Bradlee explains that in order to make up for being too nice to JFK, a president he was personally friends with, he's going to be really mean to Nixon, a president he hates.

And this is what makes him a good journalist.

That no one involved in the production saw it as an admission of deep partisanship has always flabbergasted me.

If there is any interest in actually making up for this, it's burning all of the sources who told you he was fine. Even then, you still shouldn't be trusted, but at least those sources will have to face public backlash for what they did behind the scenes. It's kind of a bare minimum.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 23, 2025 10:21 AM (GBKbO)

121
https://www.johnmoran.com/artist/stephen-seymour-thomas/

For the 1893 World’s Fair in Chicago, Thomas was commissioned to paint a portrait of Sam Houston for the Texas building. This was a huge equestrian portrait that, following the fair was displayed in the Paris Salon of 1898. In 1920 it was presented by Col. And Mrs. Francis Drake to the city of Houston and finally hung in the San Jacinto Museum.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:22 AM (xG4kz)

122 I really don't know much about Sam Houston other than that he was a soldier. guess I will have to read up on him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2025 09:42 AM (UT7mS)

Sam held a LOT of high offices over a 38-year political career:

Congressman from Tennessee
Governor of Tennessee
Representative in the Texas House
President of Texas
Senator from Texas
Governor of Texas

And he also found time to kick Mexico's ass.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:17 AM (wtvvX)

If you come to Austin, you should visit the Governor's mansion and see Sam Housston's bedroom, 4 poster bed, desk, etc. He was tall, and 2 of his children were born in that bed. An interesting tour!

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 10:22 AM (lCppi)

123 "San Jacinto" in English is "Saint Hyacinth." He was a dude, though.

"Gentleman of the house speaking!"

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:23 AM (77rzZ)

124 Repost from last night:

Dutch truck driver has had about enough of this shit.

https://tinyurl.com/33f8t5up

He drives for Air Liquide, which probably means he spends his days humping compressed gas cylinders around. He's easily up to the task of moving hippies out of the fucking road.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 10:23 AM (W5ArC)

125 THAT would get hung without question, in the den.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 23, 2025 10:23 AM (hKoQL)

126 Love the horse in that painting.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at May 23, 2025 10:23 AM (xcxpd)

127 Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 10:22 AM (lCppi)

I appreciate the info. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 23, 2025 10:24 AM (EJtBU)

128 > 123 "San Jacinto" in English is "Saint Hyacinth." He was a dude, though.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:23 AM (77rzZ)

Last name "Bucket". Pronounced "Boo-kay".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 10:24 AM (W5ArC)

129 Dutch truck driver has had about enough of this shit.

https://tinyurl.com/33f8t5up

He drives for Air Liquide, which probably means he spends his days humping compressed gas cylinders around. He's easily up to the task of moving hippies out of the fucking road.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 23, 2025 10:23 AM (W5ArC)

I was disappointed that he kept stopping and moving them out of the way like they were going to remain moved.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 23, 2025 10:24 AM (ExV1e)

130 Very nicely done

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2025 10:25 AM (ypFCm)

131 Those are some nifty shoe shields for stirrups. Never seen anything like that. It's sad that my first thought seeing the painting was to think about that kid in Jeepers Creepers pointing at the field to warn others.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 23, 2025 10:26 AM (qBdHI)

132 98 Is the Horde slow out the gate with comments this morning?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Everyone is looking up Texas history.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:13 AM (l6jBh)

I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

Because I recall getting at least one semester each on Texas History in grade and high school (back in the 60s/70s).

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:27 AM (wtvvX)

133 Horses were Houston's hobby.

Posted by: Robert Plant at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (JkO4W)

134 I just bought the official 7th grade history book.
I will have a partial review on the book thread.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (gbOdA)

135 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?
Posted by: Tex Lovera

We only had one semester of Michigan history, as I recall.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (77rzZ)

136
Sam fought under General Andrew Jackson at the Battle of Talladega. Dave Crokett, too, was there.

In 1814, Sam Houston was wounded by an arrow in the upper thigh during the Battle of Horseshoe Bend along the Tallapoosa River in Alabama. Maddened by the pain, Houston ordered a comrade at swordpoint to pull the arrow out. The ugly wound never completely healed, troubling Houston for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (xG4kz)

137 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

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That's an interesting question. For me growing up in the 70s in Ohio, I remember having exactly zero state history lessons.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 23, 2025 10:29 AM (qBdHI)

138 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

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In middle school I remember learning quite a lot about our state’s history.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 23, 2025 10:29 AM (7YTFo)

139 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

Because I recall getting at least one semester each on Texas History in grade and high school (back in the 60s/70s).
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025

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In seventh grade Social Studies, we did. It's the reason I am familiar with the source of a lot of the street names in the city. If I had known about John Churchill Chase's Frenchmen, Desire, Good Children book then, I'd have aced the report we had to do about the street names.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:29 AM (omVj0)

140 That's an interesting question. For me growing up in the 70s in Ohio, I remember having exactly zero state history lessons.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Not even anything about the Toledo War?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:30 AM (77rzZ)

141
Gee, thanks, autocucmber!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:30 AM (xG4kz)

142 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?
Posted by: Tex Lovera
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Oh, yes. When I lived in Fort Collins, CO, we had quite a few lessons on Colorado state history in grade school. I left before attending secondary education, however.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2025 10:30 AM (7fElN)

143 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

Because I recall getting at least one semester each on Texas History in grade and high school (back in the 60s/70s).
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:27 AM (wtvvX)

Yes I had Ark history in 7th grade and OK history in 9th (we moved).
I won award in OK for perfect score on state test and best OK History paper in school.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:30 AM (gbOdA)

144 If you come to Austin, you should visit the Governor's mansion and see Sam Housston's bedroom, 4 poster bed, desk, etc. He was tall, and 2 of his children were born in that bed. An interesting tour!

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 10:22 AM (lCppi)

I remember doing that when I was in grade school (San Antonio)! (Of course, that was before Austin went totally crazy...)

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:30 AM (wtvvX)

145 We only had one semester of Michigan history, as I recall.
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (77rzZ)

I went to school in Phoenix, and we covered all of Arizona's history. Which was about 10 pages in a loose-leaf binder.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2025 10:31 AM (uWKK8)

146 I just bought the official 7th grade history book.
I will have a partial review on the book thread.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (gbOdA)
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Look forward to seeing it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2025 10:31 AM (7fElN)

147
Not even anything about the Toledo War?

Posted by: Bulg

Why would they be forced to endure the humiliation of having to welcome Toledo, OH into their happy circle?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:31 AM (xG4kz)

148 Not even anything about the Toledo War?

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Wait, I think I did learn Cincinnati was once called Porkopolis.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 23, 2025 10:31 AM (qBdHI)

149 Finally a tour guide who accurately points out the stolen bike storage lot in the basement of the Alamo.

Posted by: Paul Reubens at May 23, 2025 10:32 AM (fs+VW)

150 Not even anything about the Toledo War?

Posted by: Bulg

Why would they be forced to endure the humiliation of having to welcome Toledo, OH into their happy circle?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025

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Hey! My family were all decorated in that war!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:32 AM (omVj0)

151 Sam fought under General Andrew Jackson at the Battle of Talladega.

Ricky Bobby was there!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (l6jBh)

152 Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:27 AM (wtvvX)

Third grade was when we focused on state/local history in Colorado in the 80s. No idea what they do now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (lFFaq)

153 Wait, I think I did learn Cincinnati was once called Porkopolis.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Some connection with Bailey and Jennifer?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (77rzZ)

154 I can't remember what I watched on TV last night, let alone whether or not my state's history was taught in school when I was a kid.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (Y1sOo)

155 No. 150: I meant to sign it as "Cpl. Klinger," but hit "Post" too soon!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (omVj0)

156 Texas Sate History Museum is great.
I would plan at least a full day.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (gbOdA)

157 147
Not even anything about the Toledo War?

Posted by: Bulg

Why would they be forced to endure the humiliation of having to welcome Toledo, OH into their happy circle?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:31 AM (xG4kz)

They were probably fighting over who got stuck with it.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:34 AM (wtvvX)

158 By the way, I got a call from my oldest friend yesterday, the fellow I sent the Trek books for his birthday this month. We talked for an hour, almost as if we had just seen each other a month or two ago instead of years. I'm mailing him a letter today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (omVj0)

159
I went to school in Phoenix, and we covered all of Arizona's history. Which was about 10 pages in a loose-leaf binder.

Posted by: Tom Servo

Flash Card Arizona History

We dug up a bunch of shit
We drunk up a bunch of swill
We shot up a bunch of four-flushers
We were overrun on our southern border by swarms of locusts
We have only remedial skills at counting ballots expeditiously

The End

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (xG4kz)

160 136
Sam fought under General Andrew Jackson at the Battle of Talladega. Dave Crokett, too, was there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:28 AM (xG4kz)

Usually Battle of Talladega is over who get the last natty lite tall boy.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (gbOdA)

161 Some connection with Bailey and Jennifer?

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Good one!

Sadly, its historical truth of pig slaughter is much less...titillating.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (qBdHI)

162 143 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

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In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (JkO4W)

163 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 23, 2025 10:30 AM (7fElN)

I didn't know you grew up in Fort Collins!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (lFFaq)

164 Flash Card Arizona History

We dug up a bunch of shit
We drunk up a bunch of swill
We shot up a bunch of four-flushers
We were overrun on our southern border by swarms of locusts
We have only remedial skills at counting ballots expeditiously

The End
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025

***
Add: "It's hot here, unless it's *really* hot."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:36 AM (omVj0)

165 We have only remedial skills at counting ballots expeditiously

The End
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (xG4kz)

We found 400k vote records from people that do not exist at SS or DMV.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:36 AM (gbOdA)

166 Fun fact: The last land battle of the Civil War, the Battle of Palmito Hill, was fought in Texas, 12-13 May 1865, over a month after Appomattox.

It was a Southern victory.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:36 AM (77rzZ)

167 No. 150: I meant to sign it as "Cpl. Klinger," but hit "Post" too soon!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:33 AM (omVj0)

You're an excitable boy.

Perfect hair, though.

Posted by: Gen Sam at May 23, 2025 10:36 AM (Aqu9a)

168
I do not recall getting much instruction in Michigan's history, although we did get a smattering of it when it came to building the locks at Sault Ste. Marie. The nearby village of Harvey was named for the engineer who undertook that task.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at May 23, 2025 10:37 AM (xG4kz)

169 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (JkO4W)

I think San Antonio has 5 or 6 missions. Some still as Churches.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:38 AM (gbOdA)

170 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.
Posted by: Cicero

Cool! I loved those when I lived in Cali. Managed to visit most of them.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:38 AM (77rzZ)

171 Karmelo Anthony's GiveSendGo fund for stabbing a cracker at a Frisco HS Track Meet has surpassed $500,000 with a new goal of $600,000.

https://tinyurl.com/epvmm37j

Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:38 AM (l6jBh)

172 The oddest thing to me is that a stretch of US 90 in town here is called "Chef Menteur," "Big Liar" in French. Apparently that was the local Indians' name for one of the French governors.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:39 AM (omVj0)

173 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

We got a great deal here in VA, probably because there was a great deal. Interestingly, we got not a single land acknowledgement.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 23, 2025 10:39 AM (s8j++)

174 171 Karmelo Anthony's GiveSendGo fund for stabbing a cracker at a Frisco HS Track Meet has surpassed $500,000 with a new goal of $600,000.

https://tinyurl.com/epvmm37j
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:38 AM (l6jBh)

Dallas be South Africa on the Trinity

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:39 AM (gbOdA)

175 Good morning! The horse looks more passionate about freedom than many of our citizens.

I am off the rest of the day and not sure what I am going to do!

Posted by: Piper at May 23, 2025 10:39 AM (IUV3m)

176 The Death Dealer >> General Sam Houston at San Jacinto

Just saying. Come to think of it, maybe some Frazetta or Vallejo would be nice on the art thread. They were the only two painters my dad ever liked.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 23, 2025 10:40 AM (iFTx/)

177 171 Karmelo Anthony's GiveSendGo fund for stabbing a cracker at a Frisco HS Track Meet has surpassed $500,000 with a new goal of $600,000.

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Now you can do your part to preserve the cultural treasure of ghetto thuggery!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:40 AM (JkO4W)

178 I am off the rest of the day and not sure what I am going to do!
Posted by: Piper

You mean you would consider doing something else than hanging out with us here all day?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:40 AM (77rzZ)

179 When I visited Tucson with Mrs. Wolfus No. 2, we went to see the San Xavier del Bac Mission. Neat.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:41 AM (omVj0)

180 That's an interesting question. For me growing up in the 70s in Ohio, I remember having exactly zero state history lessons.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Hmmmmm. . . During Junior High, we had a year of Ohio History. That was around '67 or so.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2025 10:41 AM (cYBz/)

181 Would Hang!

(would hang Santa Ana, too. the general, not a painting of the rat)

Posted by: Gref at May 23, 2025 10:41 AM (aBgBM)

182 We got a great deal here in VA, probably because there was a great deal. Interestingly, we got not a single land acknowledgement.
Posted by: Archimedes

I joke to my wife that Virginia history is all about four people: Washington, Jefferson, Lee, and Pocahontas.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (77rzZ)

183 The San Antonio Missions are a group of five historic Spanish colonial missions located in San Antonio, Texas, which include Mission San José, Mission Concepción, Mission San Juan, and Mission Espada.

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (gbOdA)

184 Karmelo Anthony's GiveSendGo fund for stabbing a cracker at a Frisco HS Track Meet has surpassed $500,000 with a new goal of $600,000.

https://tinyurl.com/epvmm37j
Posted by: rickb223 at May 23, 2025 10:38 AM (l6jBh)

Dallas be South Africa on the Trinity
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:39 AM (gbOdA)
________

Anyone here still think this scumbag won't walk??

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (iFTx/)

185 The San Antonio Missions are a group of five historic Spanish colonial missions located in San Antonio, Texas, which include Mission San José, Mission Concepción, Mission San Juan, and Mission Espada.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Isn't the Alamo part of that?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (77rzZ)

186 Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (gbOdA)

What is the 5th one?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (lFFaq)

187 The stars at night,
are big and bright!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (2UnvF)

188 I joke to my wife that Virginia history is all about four people: Washington, Jefferson, Lee, and Pocahontas.
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (77rzZ)

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The original lineup of Jefferson Airplane

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:44 AM (JkO4W)

189 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (JkO4W)

Now that's cool.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:44 AM (wtvvX)

190 'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

Because I recall getting at least one semester each on Texas History in grade and high school (back in the 60s/70s).
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:27 AM (wtvvX)
____

I grew up in NYC. We learned to say "yo mama" and "I got your [thing] right here" while grabbing our nuts.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 23, 2025 10:44 AM (iFTx/)

191 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (JkO4W)

Now that's cool.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

Serraiously cool.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:45 AM (77rzZ)

192
Now that's cool.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:44 AM (wtvvX)

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Not if you build it from Legos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:45 AM (JkO4W)

193 San Jacinto. Fabulous place. Great place. And Sam Houston? Great American. We've got a lot of Texans here, and we love 'em, don't we? Great taco bowls in San Jacinto. Maybe not as good as Trump Tower's, but...(chuckle) a good bit of cultural exchange. The Mexicans gave us tacos, and we gave 'em lead. A lotta lead, believe me. But, things are going better now, thank goodness, and the Mexican president, Sheinbaum's her name, great, tough woman...we still have a few, uh, differences, but we're working things out, and I think we're all going to profit in the end. A lot of profit for a lot of people, believe me.

Posted by: Donald Trump at May 23, 2025 10:45 AM (ycI94)

194 Tap Tap Tap

Is this thing on?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 23, 2025 10:46 AM (2UnvF)

195 179 When I visited Tucson with Mrs. Wolfus No. 2, we went to see the San Xavier del Bac Mission. Neat.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 23, 2025 10:41 AM (omVj0)

We went there on a school trip. That's a very fascinating, historic place - especially when you realize it was out there, by itself for over 100 years in the middle of Indian country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2025 10:46 AM (uWKK8)

196 173 I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

We got a great deal here in VA, probably because there was a great deal. Interestingly, we got not a single land acknowledgement.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 23, 2025 10:39 AM (s8j++)

When Mrs. Tex and I lived out that way for a few years, I was struck by all the historic little towns and sites that I'd read about in History classes for years that were now all around me on a daily basis.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:47 AM (wtvvX)

197 Posted by: Donald Trump at May 23, 2025 10:45 AM (ycI94)

Lol. I miss the Saga of the Golden Scalpweasel and the stories of Sun-in-His-Hair.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:47 AM (lFFaq)

198 Dallas be South Africa on the Trinity
Not Dallas, McKinney. Totally different vibe. BTW, that HS is right in my AO.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 23, 2025 10:47 AM (cWffP)

199 NEW: Book salesman Jake Tapper says he was simply "too polite" in the past, which is why he missed President Biden's very public mental decline.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)

Oh yeah he was way too polite to Lara Trump.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 10:48 AM (dQpco)

200 The horror! The horror!

Michelle Obama Gets Flirty as She Reveals What She’d Do if She Were “Single” Amidst Rumors She’s Divorcing Barack

https://is.gd/mTeCQ5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:48 AM (L/fGl)

201 191 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 23, 2025 10:35 AM (JkO4W)

Now that's cool.
Posted by: Tex Lovera

Serraiously cool.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:45 AM (77rzZ)

Especially if built from Juniper wood.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:49 AM (wtvvX)

202 Michelle Obama Gets Flirty...
Go back to her home planet of Qo'noS (Kronos)?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 23, 2025 10:50 AM (xAP/Y)

203 The media "excuses" around this all sound like bad first date or job interview answers.

But they know no one will challenge them so this is just fun.

"I guess our biggest weakness here was we are just too trusting"

"We reported what we saw instead of guessing about what we couldn't see. It's a flaw."

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 10:50 AM (dQpco)

204 2 of his children were born in that bed.

Bed soaked in broodsow juice. Ick.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2025 10:51 AM (8zt8L)

205 Isn't the Alamo part of that?
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (77rzZ)

186 Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (gbOdA)

What is the 5th one?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (lFFaq)

The Only UNESCO World Heritage Site in Texas

In 2015, a group of five Spanish colonial missions in the San Antonio area – including most of San Antonio Missions National Historical Park and the Alamo – were named a World Heritage Site by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO).

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:51 AM (gbOdA)

206 I’ll bet Sam stole that saddle from a dead Mexican.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 23, 2025 10:51 AM (ktegP)

207 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:47 AM (lFFaq)

Hey poll hope you are well.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 10:51 AM (dQpco)

208 200 The horror! The horror!

Michelle Obama Gets Flirty as She Reveals What She’d Do if She Were “Single” Amidst Rumors She’s Divorcing Barack

https://is.gd/mTeCQ5

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:48 AM (L/fGl)

LOL. Wonder whose side the hags at The View would take?

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:52 AM (wtvvX)

209 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

These days, they build models of gay bath houses.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:52 AM (L/fGl)

210 General Sam Houston at San Jacinto, S. Seymour Thomas

I like it 👍 but probably wouldn't hang it.

"At the Battle of San Jacinto (1836), Sam Houston led the Texian army to a decisive victory over General Santa Anna's Mexican army, securing Texas independence." (Wikipedia)

It just occurred to me Juneteenth was only about 30 years later.

Thanks, good weekend!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 23, 2025 10:52 AM (NFX2v)

211 203 The media "excuses" around this all sound like bad first date or job interview answers.

But they know no one will challenge them so this is just fun.

"I guess our biggest weakness here was we are just too trusting"

"We reported what we saw instead of guessing about what we couldn't see. It's a flaw."
Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 10:50 AM (dQpco)

=======

Their ratings, not the envy of the world pre-election, have cratered and have no come back despite being the voice of the opposition, something that almost always finds an audience.

Something about the 2024 election broke the connection between these networks and about half of their audiences. Biden's health? Kamala's chances? Pure depression at the loss? I don't know, but I assume it all contributed.

His apology tour. Is it leading to increased ratings? No. It's leading to increased derision.

This isn't working for them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 23, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

212 205 Isn't the Alamo part of that?
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (77rzZ)

186 Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 10:42 AM (gbOdA)

What is the 5th one?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 10:43 AM (lFFaq)

Mission Pedro de Beste

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:53 AM (wtvvX)

213 The stars at night,
are big and bright!
Posted by: Duke Lowell

"I'm trying to use the phone!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at May 23, 2025 10:55 AM (cYBz/)

214 In CA we were required to build a model of a California mission.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

The Mission Project! Our kids had to visit, report, and build a model of one. It was a good excuse for a family road trip, but I know w would appreciate the missionary and dangerous aspect of it much more today!

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 10:55 AM (lCppi)

215 177 171 Karmelo Anthony's GiveSendGo fund for stabbing a cracker at a Frisco HS Track Meet has surpassed $500,000 with a new goal of $600,000.

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Now you can do your part to preserve the cultural treasure of ghetto thuggery!
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I thought there was a law that prevented someone from profiting from this kind of crime. Maybe they can be sued for it?

Posted by: Wardo at May 23, 2025 10:55 AM (rl0iN)

216 The media "excuses" around this all sound like bad first date or job interview answers.

But they know no one will challenge them so this is just fun.

"I guess our biggest weakness here was we are just too trusting"

"We reported what we saw instead of guessing about what we couldn't see. It's a flaw."
Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 10:50 AM (dQpco)
_____

"Our biggest weakness is that we are just too awesome."

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 23, 2025 10:55 AM (iFTx/)

217 Mission Pedro de Beste
Posted by: Tex Lovera

Pete Best got a mission named after him?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:56 AM (77rzZ)

218 "Our biggest weakness is that we are just too awesome."
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 23, 2025 10:55 AM (iFTx/)

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"My intelligence, diligence, and huge cock intimidate everyone around me."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at May 23, 2025 10:57 AM (GBKbO)

219 132 ... "I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?"

Don't know what they do now but we got a good amount of Rhode Island history in grade school during the 50s and early 60s. It started with the state being founded because Roger Williams pissed off the Pilgrim fathers, then King Philips War, piracy, British occupation during the Revolution, the first synagogue in the country, privateers at different times, Washington's Farewell Address, etc. There was a lot of history for such a small place.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2025 10:57 AM (yTvNw)

220 "I'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?"

Fourth grade we had Indiana history for both semesters. High school American history covered some Indiana history for maybe a couple of weeks. Teacher said "you should have learned all of the state history in 4th grade so we will just review it. If you want more info, the 4th grade textbook is in the library."

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 23, 2025 10:57 AM (2J/Lj)

221 2 of his children were born in that bed.

Bed soaked in broodsow juice. Ick.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 23, 2025 10:51 AM (8zt8L)

I checked; it's been well cleaned since then.
But being there makes you appreciate how tough life could be, even in a mansion, before air conditining, heating, modern medicine, electricity, etc.

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 10:57 AM (lCppi)

222 Every mission had some skeevy dude hanging around it.

The mission creep.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:58 AM (77rzZ)

223 This is a real fine painting! Must be one of the last appearances of the tricorne hat?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 23, 2025 10:58 AM (wTp6q)

224 166 Fun fact: The last land battle of the Civil War, the Battle of Palmito Hill, was fought in Texas, 12-13 May 1865, over a month after Appomattox.

It was a Southern victory.
Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:36 AM (77rzZ)

If you ever visit Starbase, TX down in deepest South Texas, you will go down Hwy 4 out of Brownsville towards Boca Chica. The Palmetto Ranch Battlefield will be found on your right about halfway to Starbase.

When I was just a pup (late 60s, if memory serves), a tropical storm washed away a lot of the beach down at Boca Chica, uncovering a strange pattern of stakes and other perfectly placed markers. Turns out that it was the Union Army camp that was established just after the troops landed, but before the battle began.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at May 23, 2025 10:58 AM (MbABp)

225 Bulg

Golf clap.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2025 10:59 AM (u82oZ)

226 Ars gratia artis.

Mattel Digging Deep for IP Gold With Announced “Whac-A-Mole” Film

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:59 AM (L/fGl)

227
*mumble-mumble-Alamo!-mumble-mumble*

Posted by: Ozzy Osborne at May 23, 2025 10:59 AM (5hfjS)

228 Another Maryland (D) congressman is making a trip to El Salvador tonight to hold hands with the human-trafficking, wife-beating gang-banger.

Posted by: one hour sober at May 23, 2025 11:00 AM (Y1sOo)

229 Yes I remember a number of classes I took on Louisiana history. Had to memorize all the Parishes and the Parish seats.

Did you know that General William Tecumseh Sherman was technically the first College President of LSU ?

Posted by: polynikes at May 23, 2025 11:01 AM (VofaG)

230 U nas yest' NOOD.

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)

231 "Our biggest weakness is that we are just too awesome."
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 23, 2025 10:55 AM (iFTx/)

We worked too hard.

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 11:01 AM (dQpco)

232 'm curious: Did my fellow Morons from other states get much in the way of classes on your State's History in grade or high school?

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Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 10:27 AM (wtvvX)
____

Washington State history, which was basically a field trip or two to museums with Indian artifacts. Plus art projects making totem poles, fishing boats, pictures oof salmon and berries, IIRC. On own we visited Fort Clatsup and a bunch of other forts with campgrounds surrounding them, which were pretty cool.

Posted by: LASue at May 23, 2025 11:02 AM (lCppi)

233 217 Mission Pedro de Beste
Posted by: Tex Lovera

Pete Best got a mission named after him?

Posted by: Bulg at May 23, 2025 10:56 AM (77rzZ)

Oh, absolutely!! The fifth mission...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 23, 2025 11:03 AM (wtvvX)

234 Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 10:51 AM (dQpco)

Yes, thank you. Recovering after a mini-vacation. It's a shame fun stuff is so disruptive of the general routine for much too long after it's over.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 11:03 AM (lFFaq)

235 These days, they build models of gay bath houses.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Available In Super Size! at May 23, 2025 10:52 AM (L/fGl)

20 bux is 20 bux

Posted by: rhennigantx at May 23, 2025 11:04 AM (gbOdA)

236 Yes, thank you. Recovering after a mini-vacation. It's a shame fun stuff is so disruptive of the general routine for much too long after it's over.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 23, 2025 11:03 AM (lFFaq)

True. I'm having one next week. Always happy to see you round

Posted by: ... at May 23, 2025 11:06 AM (dQpco)

237 *sings*

Texas, our Texas! All hail the mighty State!
Texas, our Texas! So wonderful so great!
Boldest and grandest, Withstanding ev'ry test;
O Empire wide and glorious, You stand supremely blest.

God bless you Texas! And keep you brave and strong,
That you may grow in power and worth,
Thro'out the ages long!

Learn it, Love it, Live it, Sing it.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 23, 2025 11:06 AM (iJfKG)

238 In junior high/middle school, not just state history but Pacific Northwest history in general. I enjoyed the class, but I'm one of those weirdos who enjoyed history classes.

Posted by: Farquad at May 23, 2025 11:09 AM (GQ/vu)

239 Online, says Houston was wounded at the battle of San Jacinto. Seems like the painting takes the same tact as statuary; one horse leg up if wounded, two horse legs up if died in battle.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 23, 2025 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

240 RE: The Toledo War..

In the days leading up to the Civil War, Michigan and Ohio fought over the stretch of land now known as Toledo.

Make no mistake, Michigan won that war.

Posted by: Blanco at May 23, 2025 12:29 PM (q83gU)

241 84 One of the Jax Beer TV commercials

that one was for narragansett beer.

Posted by: cmeat at May 23, 2025 01:41 PM (8HmRF)

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