THE MORNING RANT: Would Venture Capitalists and Startup Accelerators Invest in Entrepreneurs Who’ll Be Remediating Derelict Wind Farms?

I’m going to try to marry two different ideas going through my head into one thesis today. I apologize if it comes across a little clunky.

1) The Venture Capital / Accelerator types in my area have no interest in real industrial businesses. Instead, they keep chasing the same startup fads - either worn-to-death digital/software ideas, or green feel-good concepts.

2) There is a looming industrial/entrepreneurial opportunity to undo and remediate the environmental wastelands created by solar and wind projects, especially wind.

I was about to write about topic #1 when I got an email from co-blogger Mr. CBD stating: “We drove back from the Loire Valley yesterday, and for about 30 minutes we drove through an area of the valley that was covered in wind turbines. Hundreds of them! I saw a grand total of four that were spinning, and it was a typical windy day. And those four were clustered together, which tells me...something!”

I then responded to Mr. CBD: “There will be an amazing business opportunity in 15 to 20 years removing these derelict monstrosities and remediating the concrete-damaged soil where they now stand. I'd mention it to the local VC guys as a great business opportunity, but the only non-digital business opportunity with a tangible product that they care about is startups related to EVs and their batteries.”

Over my career, I have worked with many people who have started and built businesses, from construction to contracting to manufacturing to retail to distribution, etc. Pretty much all of them have some tangible product which they are buying, manufacturing, shipping, or selling. I do understand, of course, that this is a world where some of the most valuable publicly traded companies are only selling bits and bytes, but even the likes of Amazon and Apple are moving a lot of physical products.

But there is also a huge world outside of digital and high tech, and as best I can tell, those interested in startup and venture capital investing (at least locally) are generally uninterested in any tangible product, with one exception – pitches related to EVs and their batteries.

The willingness to be seduced by the EV hype, while abstaining from all other industrial startups is telling. It tells me that these are credulous investors who want to invest in fads rather than in companies with an actual product or service for which there is a market.

A local “startup accelerator” that provides funding and “mentoring” recently let go almost half of its staff amidst a reorganization. I’m not going to link to the story nor name this company, because I am not seeking to mock it by name. Rather I want to point out the myopic focus I observe in the venture capital and “accelerator” arena, at least locally. This is part of the report on where the accelerator will be targeting its time and money going forward:

[These] include companies focused on electric and autonomous vehicles, supply chain innovations, urban planning, smart traffic solutions, automotive battery technology and quantum technology.

That is one trendy list. And clearly, any companies engaged in most of these areas would be relying on government grants and contracts for revenue, especially in regards to urban planning, smart traffic solutions, and the EV related stuff. There are not consumers and businesses clamoring to buy urban planning software or smart traffic solutions.

So, to circle back to my two clunky points. That giant field of static wind turbines that Mr. CBD observed in France will soon be a field of derelict wind turbines. And there are thousands of such fields across the globe. There are over 75,000 ”active” wind turbines in the U.S. alone. “Active” doesn’t necessarily mean that they are spinning or producing any electricity – they just haven’t been decommissioned. But they will. All 75,000 of those monstrosities will have to come down as the wind debacle plays out and they reach the end of their relatively short life span.

There will be a great business opportunity for entrepreneurs to start-up businesses to get into the wind turbine remediation business. But those entrepreneurs won’t be skinny-jean guys who live in lofts and talk about AI and the blockchain. They’ll be guys wearing steel-toe boots and using equipment financed by a bank, because the VCs and “accelerators” will be focused on the latest feel-good fads.

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Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Windy

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 11:00 AM (/OoVe)

2 It's a breeze.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 11:03 AM (/OoVe)

3 The dog did it!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 11:03 AM (/OoVe)

4 Newted

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 16, 2025 11:04 AM (/OoVe)

5 Wonderful picture up top. Green technology Ozymandias.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:05 AM (L/fGl)

6 I like stories with happy endings

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:05 AM (ypFCm)

7 Not exactly an early-thread derail, but maybe dangerously close:

On the theme of "someone's going to make a buck cleaning up all this shit", I have been thinking about the many, many gargantuan warehouses springing up in my area to house the untold plastic riches flooding in from China until some dumb hump buys the damn crap.

But with less chinesium getting imported, whither the warehouses? I could easily be convinced that over 50% of them never were occupied since being finished, with perpetual "For Lease" signs along every by-road in the area.

So what will they become? Factory space, with plenty of elbow room, room for storage, and docks for days?
Section them up into little incubators for small businesses? I've dreamed up dozens of business ideas myself recently.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:06 AM (yvnLa)

8 Top 10?

Posted by: Polka will never die at May 16, 2025 11:06 AM (mY/vQ)

9 Also, mornin' horde

Posted by: Polka will never die at May 16, 2025 11:06 AM (mY/vQ)

10 It's an interesting idea, but I wonder who would pay for it, or whether the wind farms will just be abandoned.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at May 16, 2025 11:07 AM (okun6)

11 Looks like a job for the Amish.

Posted by: pawn at May 16, 2025 11:07 AM (AX1UC)

12 All the toxic waste associated with wind turbines... bleh. Y'all know my stance on what windfarms do to real farmland. (Not a fan, in case you were wondering.)

Posted by: pookysgirl knows that soil must be preserved at May 16, 2025 11:07 AM (Wt5PA)

13 Regarding all those warehouses... my sister in law believes they'll be eventually used to house the malcontents.

Us.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 11:08 AM (Q4IgG)

14 11 Looks like a job for the Amish.
Posted by: pawn at May 16, 2025 11:07 AM (AX1UC)

"Forget the ladder, Yoder. Just get a bunch of our biggest axes."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:08 AM (yvnLa)

15 Not seeing much use in old wind turbine materials, obviously now they just get turned into landfill.

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:09 AM (ypFCm)

16 I know nothing! Nothing!
- Sgt. Schultz

POLITICO@politico
Biden's former national security adviser Jake Sullivan tells our @Jack_Blanchard_ the former president's debate performance was "a shock to me."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:09 AM (L/fGl)

17 1) The Venture Capital / Accelerator types in my area have no interest in real industrial businesses. Instead, they keep chasing the same startup fads - either worn-to-death digital/software ideas, or green feel-good concepts.

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"The early 2000s called -- they want their Dot-Com Bubble back ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 11:10 AM (n+Gtf)

18 I bet a number of those turbines already need decommissioning. I wonder what the percentage is that wear out, or otherwise fail, every year.

OT, does anyone actually believe Comet *found* that message in the shells instead of making it himself? Twitter was having fun with creating AI generated pebble messages to insult him afterwards.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 16, 2025 11:10 AM (lFFaq)

19 I saw the Derelict Wind Farms open for J.J. and the Seftones at Nassau Coliseum in '79

Posted by: Life of Wryly at May 16, 2025 11:10 AM (ycs3a)

20 A "green energy" sanitation department?

Will the trash trucks have to be EV's?

Probably a good place to marry robotics and hazardous waste disposal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 11:11 AM (Q4IgG)

21 There will be a great business opportunity for entrepreneurs to start-up businesses to get into the wind turbine remediation business. But those entrepreneurs won’t be skinny-jean guys who live in lofts and talk about AI and the blockchain. They’ll be guys wearing steel-toe boots and using equipment financed by a bank, because the VCs and “accelerators” will be focused on the latest feel-good fads

Start up the business. Get government grants to de-commission turbines. Decommission four. File bankruptcy.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:11 AM (tI7cV)

22 Thanks, Buck. I've been noodling on a narrow part of the windmill topic for a couple of years. How/where do you landfill them. AOP weighed in with some ideas in the comment section one evening . Part of my day job is C&D landfills. Landfills are highly regulated - what can go in vs. What gets recycled or transferred out. One of my port buddies was telling me how tough the blades are to break down. Interesting stuff Buck. Thanks.

Posted by: scampydog phone at May 16, 2025 11:12 AM (cylix)

23 A "green energy" sanitation department?

Will the trash trucks have to be EV's?

Probably a good place to marry robotics and hazardous waste disposal.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Yeah. You don't want humans around as the burn to the ground.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:12 AM (tI7cV)

24 Start up the business. Get government grants to de-commission turbines. Decommission four. File bankruptcy.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:11 AM (tI7cV)

Hire your cousin to manage the bankruptcy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:12 AM (yvnLa)

25 > Start up the business. Get government grants to de-commission turbines. Decommission four. File bankruptcy.
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Make your biz an 8-A and you're golden.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 11:12 AM (Q4IgG)

26 That top picture should be captioned: "Don Quixote Was Here".

Posted by: Ciampino - the Fall look for wind at May 16, 2025 11:13 AM (sPQoU)

27 Decommissioning wind turbines. Who pays?

Because you know the company that put them up and the company that ran them have been defunct for years.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:13 AM (tI7cV)

28 26 That top picture should be captioned: "Don Quixote Was Here".
Posted by: Ciampino - the Fall look for wind at May 16, 2025 11:13 AM (sPQoU)

"Who's tilting now, bitch?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (yvnLa)

29 This is exactly right re: VC investments. A few years ago I developed a mobile app product that would provide access to emergency housing during mass evacuations. Every time our team pitched it, we got rave reviews for our innovation and forward-thinking. But, we never got an investment. The investments always went to the next pizza delivery app or ride share app. It was maddening.

Posted by: My Sweet Lord at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (L4N4P)

30 I would design a giant shear, like a monster version of the office paper-cutter, run by hydraulics, to shear the wind-fan blades into strips about a foot wide. Then have smaller shears to cut those strips into foot-square tiles. The ones that are fairly flat could be sold as roofing tiles, and badly-shaped ones could be added to the feed stream in coal-fired power plants. Since the towers are hollow, cut them off about 25 feet above ground level, add a conical lid, and instant grain bin!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (jJbz0)

31 Thanks, Buck. I've been noodling on a narrow part of the windmill topic for a couple of years. How/where do you landfill them.

Marianas Trench - Challenger Deep. 7 miles down.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (tI7cV)

32 The problem with windmill removal is that it has to be government sponsored and funded, especially for liability and disposal issues.
There's a possibility that they could just become eyesores that blight the landscape for a century or so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 16, 2025 11:15 AM (uWKK8)

33 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

34 I don't know the answer to this, but when you drill an oil well you have to plan for its eventual decommissioning in some way. You post a bond, or you have a reserve for future plugging and abandonment, or if you're Exxon you just file a financial statement saying you're good for it. Is there anything analogous for wind farms? That is, is there a pot o' money out there to someday be harvested? Otherwise, who's going to pay for the remediation?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 16, 2025 11:16 AM (bTIum)

35 30 I would design a giant shear, like a monster version of the office paper-cutter, run by hydraulics, to shear the wind-fan blades into strips about a foot wide. Then have smaller shears to cut those strips into foot-square tiles. The ones that are fairly flat could be sold as roofing tiles, and badly-shaped ones could be added to the feed stream in coal-fired power plants. Since the towers are hollow, cut them off about 25 feet above ground level, add a conical lid, and instant grain bin!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (jJbz0)

Ever see one of them helicopters that dangle a huge saw contraption underneath to cut trees away from power lines?

Maybe something along those lines, but more like a sod-cutter orientation. Or a big stirrup hoe lined with ridiculously large demo saws...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:16 AM (yvnLa)

36 i work in the demolition industry and can assure you that windmills are coming down like whoa nationwide. and there is no shortage of entrepreneurial cash and muscle behind it. a lot of outfits actually play the game of assuming all liability for remediation in exchange for cash up front from the current owners. plus those monstrosities each have huge recycled metal value.

Posted by: mps at May 16, 2025 11:16 AM (3PM4g)

37 Since the towers are hollow, cut them off about 25 feet above ground level, add a conical lid, and instant grain bin!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (jJbz0)
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Or put a giant fan inside the base and sell wingsuit rides!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 16, 2025 11:16 AM (6YdsJ)

38 That is, is there a pot o' money out there to someday be harvested? Otherwise, who's going to pay for the remediation?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

Look in the mirror.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:16 AM (tI7cV)

39 Biden's former national security adviser Jake Sullivan tells our @Jack_Blanchard_ the former president's debate performance was "a shock to me."
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Jake is an idiot or a liar.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (Dv3i1)

40 Wind power is great for your home, but only as a limiter to your monthly bill due to it's inconsistency.

Remember: They can only accept a limited wind speed and need to be locked down in winds exceeding 30 mph (or so, I think).

It's fake and gay.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (Zz0t1)

41 Marianas Trench - Challenger Deep. 7 miles down.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (tI7cV)

Martha's Vinyard - Random Back Yards. 0 miles down.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (yvnLa)

42 There is a huge block of cement and steel bars buried quite deeply in the soil. I wonder if that can ever be removed?

Also a colossal amount of energy will go to remove them, much more than they ever produced.

Posted by: Ciampino - a lot of energy to remove at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (sPQoU)

43 Wouldn't be the co lab would it? They lost funding, alas.

Posted by: William Robert at May 16, 2025 11:18 AM (4m9KV)

44 Damn invader immigrants!

https://shorturl.at/dTq41

Extra points for "Snazis"!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:18 AM (L/fGl)

45 Ever see one of them helicopters that dangle a huge saw contraption underneath to cut trees away from power lines?
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007 got chased by one.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 16, 2025 11:18 AM (6YdsJ)

46 Maybe all these windmills are actually fake and were never intended to "work", but disguise a whole system of short-range ballistic missiles?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:18 AM (yvnLa)

47 I'm on my 5th startup. Most have been in and around the tech space but this one is industrial. It was way easier raising money in the tech space because that's where the rewards were.

For investors it's all about the exit strategy. For the last 30+ years the market has put a much higher valuation on tech related products. Even when a revenue stream was hard to identify the valuations given to tech companies is many multiples higher than for industrial products. Not always logical but that's what it is.

You will never see a more incestuous and corrupt relationship than VCs and the stock market. It's a club that loves a rigged game. They aren't smarter than you are, they run the game.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (viF8m)

48 In Tehachapi Pass, there is an early derelict wind farm, the ground under the broken wind mills is stained dark from all the leaking turbines, it looks foul.
Every windfarm should be forced to have 'cleanup after failure bonds' before ground breaking occurs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (uCQKt)

49 My sister is a CFO works for a private equity firm in the “green” space. They’ve done very well buying failed startups, reorganizing things, injecting a bit of cash and then spinning it off for the next suckers to buy.

What’s funny is she is a bigly big leftist as is everyone at that firm. But she’ll also fight to the death to save the company $20 in taxes where she can, lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (7YTFo)

50 All 75,000 of those monstrosities will have to come down as the wind debacle plays out and they reach the end of their relatively short life span.

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New Solar Power Farms FTW!

[ICYMI: from four months ago, Las Vegas Review-Journal Headline: "Ivanpah Solar Generating Facility near Las Vegas faces cloudy future; units closing."]

[Pull Quote:]

G&E customers would stop receiving power from the plant beginning in 2026, and NRG would then deactivate and decommission the units."

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (n+Gtf)

51 The sad answers to your two ideas are:

1. Venture capital has been chasing startup "green-energy" fads because that's where the money is, including obscene amounts of free gov't money. Yes, the ventures almost always fail. But that's long after the initial VC investors made piles of money. The losers are the 3rd or 4th round of investors. You know, the suckers.

2. There is no gov't or other money in undoing environmental wastelands created by solar and wind projects. So these wastelands will continue to be wastelands, conceivably forever.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (iFTx/)

52 Seems to me most of the Green Energy scam is get boat loads of money now, pocket most of all of it, dump the cleanup costs back on those you scammed
The tax payers

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:21 AM (ypFCm)

53 15 Not seeing much use in old wind turbine materials, obviously now they just get turned into landfill.
Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:09 AM (ypFCm)

Disposal costs for all that useless crap is seriously going to cut into any potential profit that might be available to whoever returns the land to a workable condition. It would probably be cheaper to just buy undeveloped land and build whatever on that. These wind farms are likely to remain derelict testaments to feel-good folly.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 16, 2025 11:22 AM (WKxf3)

54 30 Since the towers are hollow, cut them off about 25 feet above ground level, add a conical lid, and instant ~~grain bin~~ low-income housing!

fixt for social justice

Posted by: anachronda at May 16, 2025 11:22 AM (sGtp+)

55 Good news, everyone!

End Wokeness@EndWokeness
EFF leader in South Africa: "We have not called for killing off the whites FOR NOW"
Perfectly normal

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)

56 There is a huge block of cement and steel bars buried quite deeply in the soil. I wonder if that can ever be removed?

Also a colossal amount of energy will go to remove them, much more than they ever produced.
Posted by: Ciampino - a lot of energy to remove at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (sPQoU)

You don't have to remove all of it. Drill and blast to remove the concrete to about ten feet below grade, cut off exposed rebar, and backfill with subsoil and topsoil. Farm right over the buried hulks. Now, those patches may be slightly less productive, for groundwater reasons, but at least you can run a seeder or combine in a straight line again.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:22 AM (jJbz0)

57 These wind farms are likely to remain derelict testaments to feel-good folly.
Posted by: tankdemon at May 16, 2025 11:22 AM (WKxf3)

Well I suppose that's a sort of value all on its own.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (yvnLa)

58 >>> 29 This is exactly right re: VC investments. A few years ago I developed a mobile app product that would provide access to emergency housing during mass evacuations. Every time our team pitched it, we got rave reviews for our innovation and forward-thinking. But, we never got an investment. The investments always went to the next pizza delivery app or ride share app. It was maddening.
Posted by: My Sweet Lord at May 16, 2025 11:14 AM (L4N4P)

Of course not, you aren't one of the Good People.

(and I wonder how much of the investment money was from USAID or some other gubmint slush fund!)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (Vqx30)

59 You will never see a more incestuous and corrupt relationship than VCs and the stock market. It's a club that loves a rigged game. They aren't smarter than you are, they run the game.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (viF8m)

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Thank goodness The Feral Government isn't printing and spending several trillion dollars a year to keep the rigged game afloat.

/

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (n+Gtf)

60 2. There is no gov't or other money in undoing environmental wastelands created by solar and wind projects. So these wastelands will continue to be wastelands, conceivably forever. Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 11:19 AM (iFTx/)

The history of Superfund would tell you that some member of Congress will figure out that it's a field of grift to be harvested.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (bTIum)

61 Martha's Vinyard - Random Back Yards. 0 miles down.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Definitely better.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (tI7cV)

62 Biden's former national security adviser Jake Sullivan tells our @Jack_Blanchard_ the former president's debate performance was "a shock to me."
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Jake is an idiot or a liar.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (Dv3i1)

They're ALL lying. Watch his basement campaign. Watch his rallies. Watch ANYTHING from him. He was a mental handicap the ENTIRE TIME and EVERYONE saw it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

63 Have any studies been done on local effects of removing wind energy from the atmosphere by these things?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 16, 2025 11:24 AM (6YdsJ)

64 Section them up into little incubators for small businesses? I've dreamed up dozens of business ideas myself recently.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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CNC milling and 3d printing of parts (including the high end 3d metal parts "printing" more like fusing) would be areas that I would focus upon. Then energy aka backup systems to keep the home power on when the grid becomes unstable.

Robotics is another. Japanese nursing homes, for example, have moved into using robots to help elderly do things such as bathing, etc. Agricultural harvesting and restaurant operations are yet other unsexy places to invest in order to replace cheap illegals as laborers.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:24 AM (ctrM5)

65 I’ve worked for 2 startups. Both panned out well, bought by bigger behemoth companies. Stock options popped. Both times the products were kinda meh but the story the founders told was a good one and enough to get the buyers interested.

It’s all fake and gay throughout the tech startup landscape. It’s all vaporware.

But the attitude is we buy or invest in 10 of them, if 2 end up being hits, we’re happy. It’s a lot like pharma. You only need one viagra in your portfolio, which pays for the 25 drugs that never make it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 16, 2025 11:25 AM (7YTFo)

66 Turn undoing the Green New Deal into an industry.

Sounds great.

Posted by: Don Black at May 16, 2025 11:25 AM (AOsQT)

67 Martha's Vinyard - Random Back Yards. 0 miles down.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Yard Art

Al Gore's Tennessee Mansion.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

68 @AOP -- you're right, it just becomes a manmade boulder.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 16, 2025 11:25 AM (bTIum)

69 63 Have any studies been done on local effects of removing wind energy from the atmosphere by these things?
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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I think so. It does affect the local micro climate to some degree but dunno about bigger effects. They are most effective as bird killers and visual eyesores.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:26 AM (ctrM5)

70 46 Maybe all these windmills are actually fake and were never intended to "work", but disguise a whole system of short-range ballistic missiles?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:18 AM (yvnLa)

That would be cooler, but no.

Cash in on the short term while also virtue signaling.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 16, 2025 11:26 AM (bss/y)

71 Robotics is another. Japanese nursing homes, for example, have moved into using robots to help elderly do things such as bathing, etc. Agricultural harvesting and restaurant operations are yet other unsexy places to invest in order to replace cheap illegals as laborers.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:24 AM (ctrM5)

One of my ideas was "brewery incubator". Give a space for small startup brewers and distillers to set up shop and get their groove established. Have a little onsite pub they could sell their stuff at. Something like that.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:26 AM (yvnLa)

72 18 OT, does anyone actually believe Comet *found* that message in the shells instead of making it himself?

sounds perfectly cromulent to us!

Posted by: prancer and vixen at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (sGtp+)

73 They are most effective as bird killers and visual eyesores.
Posted by: whig

Whale-killers, too.

Posted by: Bulg at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (77rzZ)

74 I think so. It does affect the local micro climate to some degree but dunno about bigger effects. They are most effective as bird killers and visual eyesores.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:26 AM (ctrM5)

Didn't Owebama do an executive order removing the Bald Eagle from the protected list so the turbines could continue killing them?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

75 But the attitude is we buy or invest in 10 of them, if 2 end up being hits, we’re happy. It’s a lot like pharma. You only need one viagra in your portfolio, which pays for the 25 drugs that never make it. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 16, 2025 11:25 AM (7YTFo)

That's exactly right. And no one invests in just one startup fund, either, they invest in 10 of them, so if each has 30 investments, the investors have tiny interests in 300 companies. Most of the 300 are going to fail, but a few will be unicorns.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 16, 2025 11:28 AM (bTIum)

76 Didn't Owebama do an executive order removing the Bald Eagle from the protected list so the turbines could continue killing them?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

I dunno, I think Bald Eagles actually have sprung back pretty well. My place is lousy with the things.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:28 AM (yvnLa)

77 >>> 36 i work in the demolition industry and can assure you that windmills are coming down like whoa nationwide. and there is no shortage of entrepreneurial cash and muscle behind it. a lot of outfits actually play the game of assuming all liability for remediation in exchange for cash up front from the current owners. plus those monstrosities each have huge recycled metal value.
Posted by: mps at May 16, 2025 11:16 AM (3PM4g)

Seriously? Very cool.... would you mind sharing a little bit more? Is there a way we can offer any support (investing or whatever)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 16, 2025 11:29 AM (Vqx30)

78 Wouldn't surprise me if the windmills ever where only known to work occasionally and even then not for long.

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:29 AM (ypFCm)

79 OT, does anyone actually believe Comet *found* that message in the shells instead of making it himself?

sounds perfectly cromulent to us!
Posted by: prancer and vixen at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (sGtp+)

***

Word

Posted by: The Easter Bunny at May 16, 2025 11:29 AM (ycs3a)

80 Didn't Owebama do an executive order removing the Bald Eagle from the protected list so the turbines could continue killing them?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

I dunno, I think Bald Eagles actually have sprung back pretty well. My place is lousy with the things.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

It's not so much protected because of being endangered as much as protected because it's our national symbol.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:30 AM (tI7cV)

81 What’s funny is she is a bigly big leftist as is everyone at that firm. But she’ll also fight to the death to save the company $20 in taxes where she can, lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
____

She has something in common with Donald Trump. I'm sure it will warm her heart when you tell her.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:31 AM (Dv3i1)

82 It's not so much protected because of being endangered as much as protected because it's our national symbol.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:30 AM (tI7cV)

I thought Congress declared our national bird the middle finger in 2007.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 16, 2025 11:31 AM (yvnLa)

83 The Danes build and supply many of these wind turbines. And they are among the tallest wind turbines in the world!

Posted by: Aksel Jensen at May 16, 2025 11:32 AM (RFhjS)

84 See the violence inherent in the system!

CBS News Miami@CBSMiami
Convicted killer Glen Rogers, once speculated to have ties to the O.J. Simpson case, was executed for the 1995 murder of a woman in a Tampa motel.

-
Convicted of four murders, suspected in many more.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

85
It's not so much protected because of being endangered as much as protected because it's our national symbol.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:30 AM (tI7cV)

Yes, but I seem to remember Owebama doing something that made it OK to slaughter them "for the greater good" of green energy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

86 56 There is a huge block of cement and steel bars buried quite deeply in the soil. I wonder if that can ever be removed?

Also a colossal amount of energy will go to remove them, much more than they ever produced.
Posted by: Ciampino

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What AOP says is the most efficient demo. Concrete though, in general, if you do not care to be gentle with it is quite vulnerable to slow moving explosive charges. In AF civil engineering, we used to do such things in practicing denial of structures, air strips, etc. for bugging out of an air base. A particular fertilizer is involved along with another ingredient which makes a quite effective concrete disassembler that is cheaper and easier to employ than the highly regulated stuff.

Even the windmill blades are disposable if you burn them for energy which is about the most effective way to recapture the carbon energy from plastics/resins.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)

87 >>> 80 Didn't Owebama do an executive order removing the Bald Eagle from the protected list so the turbines could continue killing them?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

I dunno, I think Bald Eagles actually have sprung back pretty well. My place is lousy with the things.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

It's not so much protected because of being endangered as much as protected because it's our national symbol.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:30 AM (tI7cV)

istr the JEF's action wrt wind turbines was drastically increasing the acceptable number of annual bird / bat murders for them to operate. Why do commies hate birbs?!?!?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 16, 2025 11:33 AM (Vqx30)

88 I live in an area heavily affected by wind farms. The electricity market is open to competition, so all providers sell on price. The wind farms are subsidized for both construction and operation. Banks line up to provide capital to build them, because they’re risk-free money makers.

Other power projects essentially compete on production price with taxpayers. Many lose, and the rest cut all expenses to the minimum to stay in business. Keeping excess capacity is discouraged by market forces, so the grid becomes unstable at high demand.

I’ve seen reports that wind farms have no legal restoration obligations, so when they’re done, the operators can just leave them. The blades go straight to landfill, because nothing about them is recyclable. I’ve also seen projections that, as the wind turbines crowd out unsubsidized generators, they can’t keep the grid frequency stable. I can’t find that on line now, so maybe it’s not as bad as expected.

Posted by: Advo at May 16, 2025 11:33 AM (jO4mz)

89 83 The Danes build and supply many of these wind turbines. And they are among the tallest wind turbines in the world!
Posted by: Aksel Jensen
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And when they are adjudged eyesores, rare specie bird killers, and toxic waste, I assume Danes will pick up the tab to remove them.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:34 AM (ctrM5)

90 Ocho Seis Ocho Cinco

Posted by: Cincinnati Bengals at May 16, 2025 11:34 AM (rAUAP)

91 OT, does anyone actually believe Comet *found* that message in the shells instead of making it himself?

sounds perfectly cromulent to us!
Posted by: prancer and vixen

He shills seashells by the sea shore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:34 AM (L/fGl)

92 CBS News Miami@CBSMiami
Convicted killer Glen Rogers, once speculated to have ties to the O.J. Simpson case, was executed for the 1995 murder of a woman in a Tampa motel.

-
Convicted of four murders, suspected in many more.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

Strange place to hold an execution. (Tom Bodette voice) "We'll turn the juice on for you!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:34 AM (jJbz0)

93 The Danes build and supply many of these wind turbines. And they are among the tallest wind turbines in the world!
Posted by: Aksel Jensen

You know, if you take the first three letters of "Denmark"...

Posted by: Bulg at May 16, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)

94 I saw The Birbs open for The Byrds back in '66.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at May 16, 2025 11:36 AM (6YdsJ)

95 They're ALL lying. Watch his basement campaign. Watch his rallies. Watch ANYTHING from him. He was a mental handicap the ENTIRE TIME and EVERYONE saw it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

Jake Sullivan should be convicted of crimes against humanity, so the fact he lies about an old man's health is not that big a deal, in the grand scheme of things.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:37 AM (dGCAG)

96 You gotta love this guy:

@realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”

Posted by: IrishEi at May 16, 2025 11:37 AM (3ImbR)

97 Even the windmill blades are disposable if you burn them for energy which is about the most effective way to recapture the carbon energy from plastics/resins.
Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)

The graphite fiber is combustible, too. I expect the plastic blades have a bulk composition none too different from coal, with a similar heat value.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:38 AM (jJbz0)

98 @realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”
Posted by: IrishEi at May 16, 2025 11:37 AM (3ImbR)

Well, that and the Chiefs getting slaughtered in the stupor bowel.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

99 47
‘ the valuations given to tech companies is many multiples higher than for industrial products. Not always logical but that's what it is.’

That sounds a bit like those tech company valuations are artificially inflated.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 11:38 AM (jbnUc)

100 Didn't Owebama do an executive order removing the Bald Eagle from the protected list so the turbines could continue killing them?
Posted by: Sponge

They finally shut down the Obama era solar concentrator fiasco out West that fried thousands and thousands of birds including protected species.

There is a process removing species from the protected list but dunno about Obama removing them. His typically coward way was to have agencies do his dirty work via waivers, rule exceptions, Dear Colleague letters, etc. Nasty critter and his government apparatchiks knew what to do to shield dear Leader.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:38 AM (ctrM5)

101
The graphite fiber is combustible, too. I expect the plastic blades have a bulk composition none too different from coal, with a similar heat value.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:38 AM (jJbz0)

Then turn that shit into a fine powder and burn it at the coal fired plants.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

102 It is simply not feasible to recycle or rehabilitate modern wind turbine blades.

Fiberglass is nasty stuff.

Now, you want to talk about using the blades to build a border wall?

Stand them on their side, bulldoze dirt either side to keep them propped up, 3 to 4 rows deep.
And the old towers can be repurposed as lookout towers on the border.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (M1WSs)

103 95 Jake Sullivan should be convicted of crimes against humanity, so the fact he lies about an old man's health is not that big a deal, in the grand scheme of things.

ah. the old "what difference, at this point, does it make?" ploy. second time i've seen it this week.

Posted by: anachronda at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (sGtp+)

104 CBS News Miami@CBSMiami
Convicted killer Glen Rogers, once speculated to have ties to the O.J. Simpson case, was executed for the 1995 murder of a woman in a Tampa motel.

-
Convicted of four murders, suspected in many more.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

Did he hand OJ the knife? Dispose of it for him?

I'm not sure what "ties" he had to the OJ case, but he sure as shit wasn't the one who tried to saw those people's heads off.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (dGCAG)

105 REEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted by: Swifties at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (Y1sOo)

106 102 It is simply not feasible to recycle or rehabilitate modern wind turbine blades.

Fiberglass is nasty stuff.

Now, you want to talk about using the blades to build a border wall?

hmmmm..... *scribbles note* bladehenge

Posted by: anachronda at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (sGtp+)

107 A while ago in (Canada )Ontario the brew it yourself craze kicked off. Places offered brew your own beer, help advice etc. Bottle it yourself or get help. There were businesses opening in every strip mall in Toronto. Every one was talking about it.. The Ontario government put a tax on every bottlefull. Within about a week the whole thing disappeared without a trace.

Posted by: Lord Percy at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (/cBnn)

108 >>That sounds a bit like those tech company valuations are artificially inflated.

In many cases they are. And by the very people who stand to profit from inflated valuations.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 16, 2025 11:41 AM (viF8m)

109 @realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”
Posted by: IrishEi

I heard the Chiefs were going to trade her for Beyonce.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:41 AM (L/fGl)

110 102 Assemble the blades in a manner where they could be submerged for artificial reefs. Sports fishermen, divers, and others would like it, as would the greenies. Wouldn't have to be anything fancy, just a huge cage with slats close together and the ocean does the rest of the work.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 16, 2025 11:42 AM (gm9Sb)

111 A while ago in (Canada )Ontario the brew it yourself craze kicked off. Places offered brew your own beer, help advice etc. Bottle it yourself or get help. There were businesses opening in every strip mall in Toronto. Every one was talking about it.. The Ontario government put a tax on every bottlefull. Within about a week the whole thing disappeared without a trace.
Posted by: Lord Percy at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (/cBnn)

And every LIberal MPP got a nice Christmas bonus from Molson's and Labatt's.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:42 AM (jJbz0)

112 A while ago in (Canada )Ontario the brew it yourself craze kicked off. Places offered brew your own beer, help advice etc. Bottle it yourself or get help. There were businesses opening in every strip mall in Toronto. Every one was talking about it.. The Ontario government put a tax on every bottlefull. Within about a week the whole thing disappeared without a trace.
Posted by: Lord Percy at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (/cBnn)

How did they know how many bottles you brewed?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

113 Jake Sullivan should be convicted of crimes against humanity, so the fact he lies about an old man's health is not that big a deal, in the grand scheme of things.
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ah. the old "what difference, at this point, does it make?" ploy. second time i've seen it this week.
Posted by: anachronda at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (sGtp+)

That's a ploy?

If you had Chairman Mao on trial, would you fuss and argue over whether he said Stalin didn't kill anybody?

Which is not to say, don't go after Stalin, it's to say this is NOT the thing to go after Mao for.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:43 AM (dGCAG)

114 istr the JEF's action wrt wind turbines was drastically increasing the acceptable number of annual bird / bat murders for them to operate. Why do commies hate birbs?!?!?!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Modern day environmentalism is essentially religious in nature and thus petty considerations like math, science, and even protecting the environment from degradation do not apply if contrary to their virtue signalling du jour.

This is why I am a conservationist--not an environmentalist.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:43 AM (ctrM5)

115 Did he hand OJ the knife? Dispose of it for him?

I'm not sure what "ties" he had to the OJ case, but he sure as shit wasn't the one who tried to saw those people's heads off.
Posted by: BurtTC

He apparently confessed, to his brother, I believe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)

116 Why do commies hate birbs?!?!?!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Flying = freedom

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

117 I had a friend I worked with in the early 90's that brewed beer in his bathtub. He was keen to get me to try his home brew. All I could think of was him sitting and soaking in the same tub and it always dissuaded me from even taking a sip. How gross... I can't see why anyone would take him up on the offer

Posted by: Life of Wryly at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (ycs3a)

118 @realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”
---

With great power comes great responsibility. Use your powers wisely, Orangeman.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (Dv3i1)

119 This is why I am a conservationist--not an environmentalist.
Posted by: whig

That is a good distinction to make. Never occurred to me before. I would characterize myself that way as well.

Posted by: Bulg at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (77rzZ)

120 The money was made in building wind turbines, not in running them. Gov't incentives to build them were siphoned off.

Many of us said this would be a debacle. Now we all do, except the deluded.

California's Monorial is another example.

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 16, 2025 11:45 AM (Gqoy+)

121 I had a friend I worked with in the early 90's that brewed beer in his bathtub. He was keen to get me to try his home brew. All I could think of was him sitting and soaking in the same tub and it always dissuaded me from even taking a sip. How gross... I can't see why anyone would take him up on the offer
Posted by: Life of Wryly at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (ycs3a)

At least he didn't throw the beer out with the bathwater.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:45 AM (Zz0t1)

122 Did he hand OJ the knife? Dispose of it for him?

I'm not sure what "ties" he had to the OJ case, but he sure as shit wasn't the one who tried to saw those people's heads off.
Posted by: BurtTC

He apparently confessed, to his brother, I believe.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)

So you're saying a known murderer lied about killing Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman...

It's almost like he's as bad as Jake Sullivan, lying how he does.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:45 AM (dGCAG)

123
I'm not sure what "ties" he had to the OJ case, but he sure as shit wasn't the one who tried to saw those people's heads off.
Posted by: BurtTC

It didn't fit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

124 There is no gov't or other money in undoing environmental wastelands created by solar and wind projects. So these wastelands will continue to be wastelands, conceivably forever. Posted by: Elric Blade

I think you underestimate their desire to remove what is, for most people, a 400" tall reminder of the utter fecklessness and incompetence of government.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 11:46 AM (s8j++)

125 Thx Buck. Jake Sullivan and Anthony Blinken were the biggest foreign policy clusterf**KS in American history. Overeducated, book smart twits who ignored realty at every turn

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2025 11:46 AM (2ZThz)

126 He apparently confessed, to his brother, I believe.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:43 AM (L/fGl)

Sounds like some dumb jailhouse lawyer ploy: confess to a crime he clearly did not do, so as to create a narrative that his other convictions/confessions are somehow unreliable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:46 AM (jJbz0)

127 @realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”
---

With great power comes great responsibility. Use your powers wisely, Orangeman.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (Dv3i1)

Eh, I don't think he's all that. If he said he hates my ex-wife, she'd still be hot.

His powers are limited, after all.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:47 AM (dGCAG)

128 Errr....400' tall reminder. No, I'm not a member of Spinal Tap.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 11:47 AM (s8j++)

129 Home brew always tastes like that one skunky bottle Rolling Rock used to include, free of charge, in every case. Then they sold out and now include one good tasting bottle with 23 skunkies.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 16, 2025 11:48 AM (gm9Sb)

130 I'm not sure what "ties" he had to the OJ case, but he sure as shit wasn't the one who tried to saw those people's heads off.
Posted by: BurtTC

It didn't fit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)

The tie? Yeah, nobody should wear a tie.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

131 I have a sure fire business idea - I will take all the water pulled out of the air by dehumidifiers for a very low price. All one has to do is ship the water to me by means of a sink or floor drain. No addressing needed, the water knows where to go.

Send me my fee (based on gal of water shipped of course) and your problem is solved!!

I may lose $$ on the deal but I'm a giver. It would be worth it to set Gaias humors in order.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 16, 2025 11:48 AM (cYBz/)

132 15 Not seeing much use in old wind turbine materials, obviously now they just get turned into landfill.
Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:09 AM (ypFCm)

Thats it Skip! All the fiberglass from the windmill blades can be used to make levies to protect us from the rising oceans due to Climate Change.

*We wont tell the folks that do the feel good, 'green' venture capitalism that Climate Change as the left sells it is BS.

**Climate Change is real BTW, Earths climate has been in a state of flux for over a billion years, but Al Gore's church of GAIA has millions of idiots convinced that the climate should be static.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 16, 2025 11:48 AM (CKOCg)

133 Was just thinking on the plausibility Comey Just happened to come along on that on the beach.
If he did most likely saw who did it, nothing lasts long on a beach

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:48 AM (ypFCm)

134
Late to the thread, but I'm pretty sure the grifters who are getting rich greening us up have every plan to get richer greening us back down.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (n7rxJ)

135 Everyone knows that NGOs are mis-named. The "Non-" part is no longer valid, if it ever was. QuaNGOs (Quasi-) doesn't quite drive home the abomination these things are (sounds too cuddly, like a koala). Maybe better are Unofficial Government Orgs (UGO, pronounced Yugo) or Extra-Legal Government Orgs (EGO).

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (Dv3i1)

136 QWERTYs for Palestine!

Scott Jennings@ScottJenningsKY
How radically misinformed do you have to be as a self-described "gay, black trans man" to defend terrorists who would MURDER you on-sight?!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl)

137 127 @realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”
---

Love Trump but this is juvenile...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (VE6XX)

138 They finally shut down the Obama era solar concentrator fiasco out West that fried thousands and thousands of birds including protected species.
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I think, on a smaller scale, those could be fantastic garbage incinerators.
Like, they can generate a large enough and hot enough beam of heat that even the smoke gets reburned.
Kinda like those high-efficiency wood stoves.

Properly done, your only remains would be largely pure carbon ash and a slag of various metals easily refined.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 11:50 AM (M1WSs)

139 I had a friend I worked with in the early 90's that brewed beer in his bathtub. He was keen to get me to try his home brew. All I could think of was him sitting and soaking in the same tub and it always dissuaded me from even taking a sip. How gross... I can't see why anyone would take him up on the offer
Posted by: Life of Wryly at May 16, 2025 11:44 AM (ycs3a)

OK, this calls for a song:

https://youtu.be/GigRnEsqCmQ

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:50 AM (jJbz0)

140 Home brew always tastes like that one skunky bottle Rolling Rock used to include, free of charge, in every case. Then they sold out and now include one good tasting bottle with 23 skunkies.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 16, 2025 11:48 AM (gm9Sb)

***

If you are able to chew it you must stop drinking immediately

Posted by: Life of Wryly at May 16, 2025 11:50 AM (ycs3a)

141 The whole Mid Hudson valley has become home to craft breweries , distilleries and wineries. I don't think that's a bad thing but it is becoming bad oversaturated and some are already closing

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 16, 2025 11:50 AM (2ZThz)

142 One day the life-cycle for a new industry in the US will not look like" Bright Idea > Development of techniques > Initial minor success and profits > Expansion via Venture Capitalism > Purchase of contingent businesses and competitors for vertical integration >Financial Stress due to expansion > Private Equity investment > Systematic stripping of assets and compelling the businesses to engage in revenue boosting and "Austerity" > collapse of the industry and the dismemberment and sale of the various parts > exportation of the industry overseas because the US is "not receptive of manufacturing anymore"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 11:51 AM (D7oie)

143 > Late to the thread, but I'm pretty sure the grifters who are getting rich greening us up have every plan to get richer greening us back down.
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Yup. Same people, same companies, different names.

Like shuffling cards.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 16, 2025 11:51 AM (Q4IgG)

144 Sounds like some dumb jailhouse lawyer ploy: confess to a crime he clearly did not do, so as to create a narrative that his other convictions/confessions are somehow unreliable.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:46 AM (jJbz0)

Henry Lee Lucas. Had cops coming from all over with their unsolved cases, they'd feed him some facts, and he'd confess to the crimes.

Got wined and dined, all the while he's claiming to be this mastermind killer who was everywhere, all at once, killing everybody.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:51 AM (dGCAG)

145 Comey found the stuff on the beach during one of his strolls. "Mommy, mommy, that big tall man keeps taking pictures of me in my bathing suit".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 16, 2025 11:51 AM (gm9Sb)

146 Properly done, your only remains would be largely pure carbon ash and a slag of various metals easily refined.

*cough*sodium chloride*cough*

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (s8j++)

147 I have valued power plants for many years and taught valuation for many years. It used to be possible to model the cash flows and say pretty accurately what a plant's value was. There were always some fudge factors like how many years out you expected it to operate and the cost of capital, but by and large the methodology used to work.

It even worked with wind farms for a while. You modeled the subsidy as a revenue stream or as a tax cost reduction, and especially if there was an agreement with the local utility, it was absolutely possible to put a number on it.

Then two things happened that completely blew rationality out of the water: first, so much cheap capital flooded the market that discount rates went to very, very low numbers, and second, there was so much demand to own a renewable asset that the market value disconnected from the cash flow. For the last 15 years or so, the owners of renewables, if they are rational business people, own them to flip them. At the end of the game of musical chairs, someone is going to hold an asset worth a lot less than he paid for it, but in the meantime lots of people are making lots of money.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (bTIum)

148 I wouldn't go near beer made in a bathtub, are you sure it's just a metifore for a bug galvanized tub?

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (ypFCm)

149 Assemble the blades in a manner where they could be submerged for artificial reefs. Sports fishermen, divers, and others would like it, as would the greenies. Wouldn't have to be anything fancy, just a huge cage with slats close together and the ocean does the rest of the work.
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Did you all see the thing where they got a camera down to the bottom of the Challenger Deep?
And found ... a beer bottle.
LOL.

Let's dump 'em there. F the Ancient Ones hiding down there.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (M1WSs)

150 >>The whole Mid Hudson valley has become home to craft breweries , distilleries and wineries. I don't think that's a bad thing but it is becoming bad oversaturated and some are already closing

You can't swing a dead lobster in RI without hitting a winery or a craft beer maker. Fortunately for me, one of the very good craft beer makers is only a few miles away.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (viF8m)

151
Love Trump but this is juvenile...
Posted by: It's me donna

Donna, maybe but it won't hurt him. Non-juvenile folks will continue to support him for all the reasons we know. Some folks that have no idea how the world operates will be attracted to our beloved CEO by this type of nonsense.

Big tent and all that. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (cYBz/)

152 Dismantling the concrete bunkers of the CA "high-speed-rail" will be a panacea for demolition crews.

Posted by: Jeff E at May 16, 2025 11:53 AM (hRPUs)

153 I used to brew at home. There were a handful of stores selling all the stuff you needed and the tax was just the normal sales tax 6% ? Those stores survived No sales tax in Alberta still ? No bathtub needed

Posted by: Lord Percy at May 16, 2025 11:53 AM (/cBnn)

154 96
‘ Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”’

He has so much energy, he’s even got time for stupid shit.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

155 At the end of the game of musical chairs, someone is going to hold an asset worth a lot less than he paid for it

Well, s***!

Posted by: The taxpayers at May 16, 2025 11:54 AM (s8j++)

156 Love Trump but this is juvenile...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (VE6XX)

In my fantasy world, Taylor Swift is a CIA operative, possibly an assassin who goes around the world, gathers adoring fans, performs hits, then leaves town.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:54 AM (dGCAG)

157 I will take all the water pulled out of the air by dehumidifiers for a very low price.

Already been done.

Posted by: Maud'Dib at May 16, 2025 11:54 AM (0sNs1)

158 99 47
‘ the valuations given to tech companies is many multiples higher than for industrial products. Not always logical but that's what it is.’

That sounds a bit like those tech company valuations are artificially inflated.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

For a long while, markets predicted outsized profits for FAANG and even created tech fund options for investors, 401k, and pension plans. Now those have fallen to earth to chase the next big thing--AI. Nvidia, for example got to the point where it was some ridiculous percentage of the total value stock index. IIRC something like 10 percent or so of the S&P 500 which was ridiculous on its face. AMD is worth more than Intel for example due to AMD moving into second place in the AI chip market while Intel's flopped.

Even now, the top eight listings in the S&P 500 valuation are tech firms and those eight firms are about one third of the S&P 500 total valuation. Berkshire Hathaway, by contrast is number 9 with its more conventional portfolio.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)

159 I see trucks heading west on the highway quite often carrying old windmill blades. They have special trailers and each truck can only carry one blade and they travel in threes. I have no idea where they are headed but I recall reading something about a dumping ground in Arizona or some other place west of me here in NE Texas.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 16, 2025 11:55 AM (e5NfL)

160
Biden's former national security adviser Jake Sullivan tells our @Jack_Blanchard_ the former president's debate performance was "a shock to me."

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Well, Jake, that's the sort of thing you miss when you don't read conservative media. Now democracy is doomed thanks to you.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 16, 2025 11:55 AM (n7rxJ)

161 Last night on Fox one of the guests said this isn't the first picture Comey has put up on Instagram with shells on the beach.... Of course he's scrubbed his Instagram account now.

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 11:56 AM (VE6XX)

162 Biden's former national security adviser Jake Sullivan tells our @Jack_Blanchard_ the former president's debate performance was "a shock to me."

For the supposedly smartest people around, they sure do miss a lot of very obvious things.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 11:56 AM (s8j++)

163 There are also valuable intellectual service businesses such as accounting, contract claims consulting, (yes, the law), real estate brokerage. Success does not need to be a product. It's if the service helps someone resolve a problem. Still requires an entrepreneur person plus "angel" capital has a role.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at May 16, 2025 11:56 AM (jFCkp)

164 OT, does anyone actually believe Comet *found* that message in the shells instead of making it himself?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 16, 2025 11:10 AM

To be fair, he did claim later that he had a slight suspicion that the message might be somewhat political in nature.

Since he was a Top. Man., who are we to question him?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 16, 2025 11:56 AM (0sNs1)

165 Love Trump but this is juvenile...
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I'm assuming Trump meant "HOT" as in hot commodity. Maybe also meant she's not as good looking. Either way, coming of a yuge trip to ME where he was feted like a king, yeah, save this kind of stuff for one of the grandkids to deliver on Instagram.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:56 AM (Dv3i1)

166 I used to brew at home. There were a handful of stores selling all the stuff you needed and the tax was just the normal sales tax 6% ? Those stores survived No sales tax in Alberta still ? No bathtub needed
Posted by: Lord Percy at May 16, 2025 11:53 AM (/cBnn)

A friend in Alberta used to home-brew. He did not mess with bottles. Did one fermentation, filtered the brew, and put it in Cornelius cans (the syrup cylinders for soda fountains), and artificially carbonated with CO2. Tasty clear beer, with no sediment, on tap!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (jJbz0)

167 The Ontario government put a tax on every bottlefull. Within about a week the whole thing disappeared without a trace.
Posted by: Lord Percy at May 16, 2025 11:39 AM (/cBnn)

Everything the government taxes, there is less of. Which is why the tax on income is so awesome.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (D7oie)

168 I have a sure fire business idea - I will take all the water pulled out of the air by dehumidifiers for a very low price.
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I route my A/C water outside instead of down the drain.

I pay good money for that purified water and I'm gonna use it to water my plants.

Most people have no idea how much condensation an AC in the south produces daily.

Really is dumb how we accept so much waste.

Like, your laundry water should be watering your lawn.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (M1WSs)

169 I’ve also seen projections that, as the wind turbines crowd out unsubsidized generators, they can’t keep the grid frequency stable. I can’t find that on line now, so maybe it’s not as bad as expected.
Posted by: Advo

*Spain has entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (tI7cV)

170 127
‘ Eh, I don't think he's all that. If he said he hates my ex-wife, she'd still be hot.’

No picture?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc)

171 This Green Scam of windmills has only gone on maybe 20 years? How fast are they built then torn down?

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (ypFCm)

172 Well, Jake, that's the sort of thing you miss when you don't read conservative media. Now democracy is doomed thanks to you.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 16, 2025 11:55 AM (n7rxJ)

Theoretically, if you're Jake Sullivan, you are meeting pretty much daily with the commander in chief, getting your marching orders, so you can do your job.

In essence, Jake is saying he wasn't getting them from Joe Biden.

Yeah, we know, Jake. You mass murderer.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (dGCAG)

173 The fact that Biden's National Security Advisor, the person charged with having his finger on the pulse of what is happening with countries and global relationships to base US foreign policy, admits he didn't even realize his boss was senile while the rest of the sentient world did, tells you all you need to know about how we got here.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (viF8m)

174 Was just thinking on the plausibility Comey Just happened to come along on that on the beach.

He didn't mean 86 86 him!

Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at May 16, 2025 11:58 AM (iSdyJ)

175 Most people have no idea how much condensation an AC in the south produces daily.

Really is dumb how we accept so much waste.

Like, your laundry water should be watering your lawn.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

*Septic systems have entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 11:58 AM (tI7cV)

176 150 >>The whole Mid Hudson valley has become home to craft breweries , distilleries and wineries. I don't think that's a bad thing but it is becoming bad oversaturated and some are already closing

You can't swing a dead lobster in RI without hitting a winery or a craft beer maker. Fortunately for me, one of the very good craft beer makers is only a few miles away.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 16, 2025 11:52 AM (viF8m)

The seacoast area of NH is also awash in craft/micro breweries. So many of them are locked into doing just IPAs or just sours. The few diverse ones seem to have the staying power.

Bigger players like SmuttyNose are consolidating - not a good sign. Red Hook had a good local presence in Portsmouth. Budweiser owns them and they pretty much shut the place down recently after they moved Red Hook out west (losing all the local taps) and moving the Cisco Brewery brand in.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 16, 2025 11:58 AM (N39Ws)

177 For the supposedly smartest people around, they sure do miss a lot of very obvious things.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 16, 2025 11:56 AM (s8j++)

not his fault!

He was bewitched by my captivating fishnet stockings

tee hee

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden at May 16, 2025 11:58 AM (dCxaZ)

178 These wind farms are likely to remain derelict testaments to feel-good folly.
Posted by: tankdemon

Well I suppose that's a sort of value all on its own.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

My name is Ozymandias, King of Winds. Look on my works, ye logical, and chuckle wryly.

Posted by: mikeski at May 16, 2025 11:59 AM (jp1+q)

179 39 Biden's former national security adviser Jake Sullivan tells our @Jack_Blanchard_ the former president's debate performance was "a shock to me."
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Jake is an idiot or a liar.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 11:17 AM (Dv3i1)

Jake, Blinken, and others would have seen Biden in-action (sort-of) at 2 AM more than once or twice, and after being nominally awake and theoretically chairing important military options and decision-making meetings for many hours.

He's lying. Or Biden only briefly attended meetings between 8 PM - 8 AM in-person. Both in my opinion. Sullivan /spit/ was one of the We're Actually Running Things Cabal. He gains nothing by telling the truth about Joe.

Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2025 11:59 AM (aBgBM)

180 He didn't mean 86 86 him!
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at May 16, 2025 11:58 AM (iSdyJ)
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Missed it by *that* much!

Posted by: Maxwell Smart at May 16, 2025 11:59 AM (6YdsJ)

181 159 I was on a road trip. Laid over for the night in Shamrock TX. The next day the little town was shut down for about an hour and a half due to a windmill being transported. Three or four articulated flatbeds, escort trucks, the works, all to get it off I40 and heading to Childress.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 16, 2025 11:59 AM (gm9Sb)

182 EXCLUSIVE: DOJ withheld evidence that could’ve helped Catholic pro-lifer who died in federal custody

https://tinyurl.com/yh5en94m

link goes to LifeSite News. Paragraph near the end says video shows it wasn't even him.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 16, 2025 12:00 PM (Dv3i1)

183 Maud'Dib, how in the world are you? Long time with out chatting with you.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 16, 2025 12:00 PM (NVNRw)

184 You can't swing a dead lobster in RI without hitting a winery or a craft beer maker. Fortunately for me, one of the very good craft beer makers is only a few miles away.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Cannabis infused drinks are the fastest growing segment nowadays in recreational substance abuse.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5)

185 ‘ Eh, I don't think he's all that. If he said he hates my ex-wife, she'd still be hot.’
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No picture?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 11:57 AM (jbnUc)

I have some pictures. Not many, she was one of those women who looked great, but hated having her picture taken.

I think she was afraid the camera would capture the demon's true form.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 12:01 PM (dGCAG)

186 My name is Ozymandias, King of Winds.

Pffffft.
rickb223, King of Breaking Wind

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 12:01 PM (tI7cV)

187 Pffffft.
rickb223, King of Breaking Wind
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 12:01 PM (tI7cV)

Man, does Mary Clogginstein have a deal for you!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 16, 2025 12:03 PM (jJbz0)

188 Pffffft.
rickb223, King of Breaking Wind
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 12:01 PM (tI7cV)

Pffffft…. ISWYDT

Silent but violent

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 16, 2025 12:03 PM (uAQQB)

189 186 My name is Ozymandias, King of Winds.

Pffffft.
rickb223, King of Breaking Wind
Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 12:01 PM (tI7cV)

Truly green energy. Or brown.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 16, 2025 12:04 PM (N39Ws)

190 Like, your laundry water should be watering your lawn.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

It is fairly easy to divert graywater to storage for doing such (don't advise this if on septic) if you are not on a slab foundation.

Same for rainwater collected on the roofs into storage tanks and substituting harvestable food crops for your landscaping. Most don't do it because HOA/local government code restrictions and the cost/effort involved.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:04 PM (ctrM5)

191 86
Even the windmill blades are disposable if you burn them for energy which is about the most effective way to recapture the carbon energy from plastics/resins.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
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So we built these monstrosities to avoid burning carbon fuels but we end up adding to the (non-toxic) CO2 anyway. Between construction and manufacturing to disposal I wonder what the energy balance and the CO2 output actually is? Probably less efficient than a gas-powered power station.

Posted by: Ciampino - a lot of energy to remove at May 16, 2025 12:04 PM (sPQoU)

192 Jake, Blinken, and others would have seen Biden in-action (sort-of) at 2 AM more than once or twice, and after being nominally awake and theoretically chairing important military options and decision-making meetings for many hours.

He's lying. Or Biden only briefly attended meetings between 8 PM - 8 AM in-person. Both in my opinion. Sullivan /spit/ was one of the We're Actually Running Things Cabal. He gains nothing by telling the truth about Joe.
Posted by: Gref at May 16, 2025 11:59 AM (aBgBM)

I sincerely doubt they ever woke Biden up for anything. At any time.

They were answering to someone else, which Jake is more or less admitting here. He's not a complete idiot, so I don't know why he's even admitting it now.

Does everyone have to go in front of a microphone now, and say they didn't know, just because Tapper wrote a book? If so, why? Why not just keep your mouth shut?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 12:05 PM (dGCAG)

193 Bible Study Moment With Pastor Carla Cheatham.

https://shorturl.at/JtRrT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 12:05 PM (L/fGl)

194 What’s scarier? Farting cows in fields OR farding cows in cars?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 16, 2025 12:05 PM (uAQQB)

195 158
‘ Even now, the top eight listings in the S&P 500 valuation are tech firms and those eight firms are about one third of the S&P 500 total valuation.’

Understood. But the fact that the FAANG values deflated so rapidly and the newer tech values inflated right into their voided spaces make me think…they’re inflated.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 12:07 PM (jbnUc)

196 First Lady will be driving through NE Texas in an hour or two heading to her dad's.

She prolly won't honk and wave to the Hordians there like I do.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 12:08 PM (Zz0t1)

197 ***these are credulous investors who want to invest in fads rather than in companies with an actual product or service
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They all are, except for the mercenaries that drive it. Mercenaries drive like Indians driving buffalo of the cliff except they feast upon the whole lot. See: BlackRock, Vanguard, State, and Goldman Sachs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 16, 2025 12:08 PM (nO7cW)

198 Thanks Buck

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 16, 2025 12:08 PM (xcxpd)

199 Google my question, it's says a lifespan of a wind turbine is 20 - 30 years but parts may wear out faster and need replacement

Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 12:09 PM (ypFCm)

200 A "green energy" sanitation department?

Will the trash trucks have to be EV's?

Probably a good place to marry robotics and hazardous waste disposal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer

The funny thing is, one can't take an electric trash truck to the dump, because the dirt haul road can't take the weight. An EV truck has an extra four tons of battery weight.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 12:09 PM (lTGtQ)

201 So we built these monstrosities to avoid burning carbon fuels but we end up adding to the (non-toxic) CO2 anyway. Between construction and manufacturing to disposal I wonder what the energy balance and the CO2 output actually is? Probably less efficient than a gas-powered power station.
Posted by: Ciampino

Yes. Just like buying a new EV is less efficient than buying a 90's to 00's era gasoline powered car if you consider the total carbon output required. Forget the tipping point nowadays but at some point if you go back in years, an older gasoline powered car is more ecologically efficient than a new EV in total energy consumed and environmental impact of mining, mfg, etc.

But hard to claim virtue from the neighbors if you are driving an old car in your wealthy neighborhood.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:10 PM (ctrM5)

202 Understood. But the fact that the FAANG values deflated so rapidly and the newer tech values inflated right into their voided spaces make me think…they’re inflated.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Little bit of cross reference there. Some of the FAANG are now part of the MAG 7.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 16, 2025 12:11 PM (nO7cW)

203 Google my question, it's says a lifespan of a wind turbine is 20 - 30 years but parts may wear out faster and need replacement
Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 12:09 PM (ypFCm)

Windmill of Theseus

Posted by: Kindltot at May 16, 2025 12:11 PM (D7oie)

204 Rhode Island's capital to fly Palestinian flag at city hall

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All they are saying is give peace a chance. Also, "Juden 'raus!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now For a Limited Time Only! at May 16, 2025 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

205 @realDonaldTrump
1h
Has anyone noticed that, since I said “I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT,” she’s no longer “HOT?”
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Love Trump but this is juvenile...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (VE6XX)
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True, but he's kinda right. She did fall off the map almost immediately after Trump shit on her at the Superbowl.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 16, 2025 12:12 PM (iFTx/)

206 This Green Scam of windmills has only gone on maybe 20 years? How fast are they built then torn down?

Posted by: Skip

There aren't any subsidies for tearing them down.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 16, 2025 12:12 PM (lTGtQ)

207 Google my question, it's says a lifespan of a wind turbine is 20 - 30 years but parts may wear out faster and need replacement
Posted by: Skip at May 16, 2025 12:09 PM (ypFCm)

They're warrantied for 15 years. If they break, it's too expensive to fix, so they just put a new one next to the broken one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

208 I think she was afraid the camera would capture the demon's true form.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 16, 2025 12:01 PM (dGCAG)

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lol

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 12:13 PM (n+Gtf)

209 175
‘ Septic systems have entered the chat.’

Isn’t most of the flushed water supposed to go into the leech bed?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 12:13 PM (jbnUc)

210
Isn’t most of the flushed water supposed to go into the leech bed?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 16, 2025 12:13 PM (jbnUc)

Now they have sprinkler systems so you blow your piss and shit right onto your yard!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

211 NOODlum.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 16, 2025 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

212 Understood. But the fact that the FAANG values deflated so rapidly and the newer tech values inflated right into their voided spaces make me think…they’re inflated.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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The bigger the firm and the more widespread its shares are, then percentage wise you are simply not going to be generating the percentage returns that you did in the past for investors. So, they traipse off for the next big thing.

Chasing the 'hot' values relies on momentum trading to whatever you think the market WILL want, not boring fundamentals of P/E. But brokers, etc. encourage such bad practices because they make their money from churn, not servicing clients well with their advice.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:15 PM (ctrM5)

213 First Lady will be driving through NE Texas in an hour or two heading to her dad's.

She prolly won't honk and wave to the Hordians there like I do.
Posted by: Sponge

We are unloved.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 16, 2025 12:15 PM (tI7cV)

214 Love Trump but this is juvenile...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (VE6XX)

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Some day I expect to be like Trump: an emotional 19-year-old in a 79-year-old body.

Posted by: ShainS -- Whites Have No Home Here! at May 16, 2025 12:16 PM (n+Gtf)

215 Not much can be done with wind-turbine blades, which are made of fiber glass and resin. There's a big landfill outside Grand Fork, ND, where they're buried.

However ... every offshore oil well has an escrow account to pay for its eventual decommissioning and removal. There's a lot of work being done in the Gulf of Mexico to remove dead oil rigs: if a company can remove the rig for less than what's in the escrow account, it gets to keep the remainder as clear profit. I don't know if wind turbines also have escrow accounts. If they don't, they should.

Posted by: Nemo at May 16, 2025 12:19 PM (4RPgu)

216 Love Trump but this is juvenile...
Posted by: It's me donna
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She got into the political game by endorsing Harris--which no one forced her to do. So she became fair game for Trump to be needled.

I personally find her tiresome and having minimal talents (other than her business sense in grabbing money from her fans) like most of the twits in our infotainment industries.

She is less tiresome than the outdated and decrepit 'Boss' Springsteen who popped up in London for a concert and bravely spoke 'truth' to power the other day. But that is not saying much.

Good news is that AI music is likely to carve a huge chunk out of the repetitive crap served up as music nowadays making the next 'star' to be a hideous borg AI/Internet Influencer meld.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:21 PM (ctrM5)

217 Taylor Swift is not at the top of the Zeitgeist at the moment because she's finished her big tour, doesn't have a new record to promote and because of the transitory nature of the disposable, short attention span culture we live in.

She be at the top of the stack once she starts touring or puts out a record.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 16, 2025 12:21 PM (XV/Pl)

218 Micro breweries and distilleries are like casinos. They sprout wherever the economy is definitely and permanently dead.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 16, 2025 12:22 PM (wBaIH)

219 Some day I expect to be like Trump: an emotional 19-year-old in a 79-year-old body.

Posted by: ShainS
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Politics is a contact sport and if you come out as a celeb to endorse someone, you get hit.

Ask Trump endorsers in infotainment how they have been affected business wise by endorsing Trump. Far worse than mild tweets issued by Trump. And the Dems have also singled out average citizens for the crime of simply supporting Republicans or Trump.

Got no sympathy to give one thin damn for Tay Tay.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:24 PM (ctrM5)

220 Springsteen's mumbling rant received less than a smattering of applause.

Very sad. Someone needs to tell him to chin up and entertain us, dancing monkey.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 16, 2025 12:25 PM (wBaIH)

221 She be at the top of the stack once she starts touring or puts out a record.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Her moment may have passed peak I think. It hasn't helped that her 'live' concerts are actually a hybrid of live, pitch correction on the fly, and recorded vocals. See Wings of Pegasus Fil YT for that analysis which is all the dude basically does.

Any singer, just like other countless music 'stars' that were so hot once fade as the next generations want someone new more their age and singing about their interests.

When Tay Tay hits Vegas for a long stay, then she has become a nostalgia act like the rest of faded stars in residence there.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:29 PM (ctrM5)

222 220 Springsteen's mumbling rant received less than a smattering of applause.

Very sad. Someone needs to tell him to chin up and entertain us, dancing monkey.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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He has become the sad sack but rich parody of his own song Glory Days. The 80's have long passed by.

Posted by: whig at May 16, 2025 12:30 PM (ctrM5)

223 Wind turbines have a service life before rebuilding at about 25 years. Same as thermal plants.
In 2024 25% of all US electricity. Came from renewables. Coal is down to 15% and dropping every year. Renewables in USA should reach 33% by 2031

And that idiot driving through the Loire Valley????Loire Valley has a total of 23 turbines

25 years ago there were only 2500 turbines in USA. They are now obsolete. Many non functional. There are now 75000 mostly in red states that seem to live them levelizred costs for solar and wind are lower than any other

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 16, 2025 12:33 PM (nlwX6)

224 >>>---

Love Trump but this is juvenile...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 16, 2025 11:49 AM (VE6XX)
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Looking at the positive; she is getting too old to play a little girl and would soon have worn out her welcome. Donald gave her a better exit than 'has been'.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 16, 2025 12:38 PM (nO7cW)

225 She won't play Vegas. By the time her crowd is old enough to attend she will be too old to perform. Besides, is her music anything other than transitory?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 16, 2025 12:42 PM (nO7cW)

226 Calling hind tit........again.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 16, 2025 12:43 PM (nO7cW)

227 The wind farms have an electric grid in place and would be excellent places for a nuclear power plant!

Posted by: Wingless at May 16, 2025 12:45 PM (HBxWr)

228 Birds before Wind Turbines

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 16, 2025 05:10 PM (wGqjj)

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