US, China Agree to 90 Day Reduction in Tariffs

U.S., China agree to 90-day tariff reduction after negotiations
The United States and China have agreed to reduce tariffs for 90 days following trade negotiations in Geneva, offering temporary relief to global markets. The deal marks a pause in the escalating economic conflict, with both countries pledging to resume talks during the truce.
Key Details:
The U.S. will lower tariffs on Chinese imports from April levels by 24 percentage points, maintaining a 10% base rate.
China will implement a matching reduction and suspend additional non-tariff measures targeting American goods.
S&P 500 futures jumped 3%, while U.S. bond yields climbed as investors reacted to signs of de-escalation.
Diving Deeper:
After weeks of mounting economic tension, the United States and China on Monday jointly announced a 90-day reduction in tariffs, signaling a temporary easing of the trade war that has unnerved businesses, investors, and policymakers across the globe.
The agreement, reached during weekend negotiations in Geneva, was confirmed by U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. "We had very robust discussions. Both sides showed great respect to what was a very positive process," Bessent said in remarks to reporters. According to Bessent, the U.S. will lower its tariffs to 30%, while China will cut its rates to 10% during this period--a proportional rollback from their respective April highs.
The White House clarified that the reduction affects tariffs announced by President Trump on April 2, cutting them by 24 percentage points while keeping the base ad valorem rate of 10%. In response, Beijing agreed not only to match the tariff rollback but also to lift administrative barriers and non-tariff measures it had imposed since April.
Both countries are expected to implement the agreed measures by Wednesday. The joint statement released following the talks indicated that discussions will continue over the coming months as the two sides explore a longer-term resolution.
Markets reacted quickly and positively. S&P 500 futures surged over 3% on the news, providing a shot of optimism after weeks of uncertainty. The U.S. Dollar Index, which had been under pressure due to investor anxiety about America's trade posture, rose more than 1%. Meanwhile, bond markets adjusted sharply, with the yield on the 10-year Treasury climbing to 4.445%, its highest point since early April.

The Dow is now up over 1000 points.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average surged 1037 points, or 2.5%, staying near its highs for most of the session with buying enthusiasm remaining strong. The S&P 500
popped nearly 3% on Monday, bringing its gain since its April intraday low at the height of tariff pessimism to more than 20%. The benchmark has cut its year-to-date losses to just 0.9%.
The Nasdaq Composite boomed by 4%, as the initial China agreement sent technology stocks tied to the country -- like Tesla and Apple -- flying higher.

🚨 Treasury Secretary @SecScottBessent announces a major trade deal with China:

“We have reached an agreement on a 90-day pause and substantially move down the tariff levels. Both sides on the reciprocal tariffs will move their tariffs down 115%.” pic.twitter.com/d89RFR3jA4
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) May 12, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM

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1 First?!?

Posted by: Grayman27 at May 12, 2025 01:19 PM (pgwxJ)

2 Ha!

Posted by: Grayman27 at May 12, 2025 01:19 PM (pgwxJ)

3 Wahoo!

Stocks are up!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 12, 2025 01:19 PM (u82oZ)

4 Trifecta...

Posted by: Grayman27 at May 12, 2025 01:19 PM (pgwxJ)

5 The market is celebrating 55% tariffs on Chinese goods.

It was 15% when Trump took office.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:19 PM (GBKbO)

6 Grayman27

Ya got pretty fast, firsty, gunslinging fingers there, sodbuster.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 12, 2025 01:20 PM (u82oZ)

7 And, remember, the market had completely recovered from the announcement that Trump was imposing 150% tariffs on China.

Almost like the market didn't believe that effective sanctions on China were the end of the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

8 RIP Jim NSD...lurker here, but I talked to him one time on the phone and he was such a character

Posted by: Mo at May 12, 2025 01:20 PM (xc6hB)

9 oh yeaeth...may be tempted to check the portfolio

Posted by: DanMan at May 12, 2025 01:20 PM (8uzBS)

10 Has a district judge struck this deal down, yet?

Posted by: Cray Cray at May 12, 2025 01:21 PM (oxaka)

11 Trump gets lucky again.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:21 PM (ExV1e)

12 TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla

So lower income taxes on those earning below 150,000.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 12, 2025 01:21 PM (u82oZ)

13 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

14 Also, in before the "free market" people arrive to tell us how bad this all was.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)

15 Seems those market whores really like cheap Chinese shit, eh?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

16 But, but the Dems told us tariffs would destroy us!!!

Posted by: mpfs. Scott Bessent fan grrllll at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (Vu4YK)

17 taREEEEffs is the proper spelling

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (rT96s)

18 My portfolio is shining again!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (lkmGL)

19 11 Trump gets lucky again.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:21 PM (ExV1e)

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The narrative is that Trump is retreating, getting nothing from China in a desperate effort to end the trade war because it's hurting America too much.

Despite...healthy consumer spending, the market recovering, and $10 trillion in announced foreign investment in America since 1/20.

Also...the tariffs will still be 55% when they were 15% when Trump entered office. The same 15% that he set in 2018 that also didn't end the world, Biden never rescinded, and that Biden actually added to (in terms of category, not general number).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

20 Again, any deal that does not incentivize manufacturing and fabrication moving back to the US is a failure, I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (z/ebR)

21 The Dow is now up over 1000 points.

----

Boocoo dinky dow?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (vHKB5)

22 I used to have a different nic

After his second ground breaking scientific discovery was deemed "lucky" Louis Pasteur said "Chance favors the prepared mind."

Like Trump.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (u82oZ)

23 The Chinese also told Bessent that when Biden took office they just ignored any obligations.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2025 01:24 PM (u73oe)

24 Federal payments for debt interest isn't getting any relief here.
Debt is consuming all the oxygen.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (J6B4f)

25 Trump has major erection - wokels hardest hit.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (n17eQ)

26 If I hear or see Smoot-Hawley mentioned one more fucking time...

I'll probably just make fun of them, tbh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (3/Rg9)

27 The narrative is that Trump is retreating, giving China nothing in a desperate effort to end the trade war because it's hurting America too much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

I kind of wonder how effective "the narrative" is with people under the age of 50. I assume the chirrens get their political takes from Rogan, Tim Pool (poor bastards), or big-boobed e-girls on TikTok.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (ExV1e)

28 Trump is calibrating the tarriff scale

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (rT96s)

29 The Chinese also told Bessent that when Biden took office they just ignored any obligations.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2025 01:24 PM (u73oe)

Lol. They know how to cozy up to Trump's ego, at least. "Oh yeah, that other guy we just ignored. But you? Biiiiig peeeenis. Our peeenis very smaw. (So smaw)".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (r97SN)

30 Now wait a second. Buck told me tariffs are wonderful. Why on earth would we reduce them? Shouldn't we be doubling or tripling them?

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (P7Iz+)

31 26 If I hear or see Smoot-Hawley mentioned one more fucking time...

I'll probably just make fun of them, tbh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (3/Rg9)

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The only way Smoot-Hawley even begins to make sense is if those pushing for the analogy admit that America has been in a depression for a few years.

Because the world had been in a depression for 2 years when Smoot-Hawley was passed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (GBKbO)

32 "The Guaranteed Trump Recession" hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (t+HS7)

33 The Dow is now up over 1000 points.

BUY BUY BUY
er... SELL SELL SELL?

Posted by: Jim Cramer Investment Club at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

34 30 Now wait a second. Buck told me tariffs are wonderful. Why on earth would we reduce them? Shouldn't we be doubling or tripling them?
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (P7Iz+)

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To be fair, this is more than triple the tariff rate that America had on China two months ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

35 Hey, Sponge, haven't been around the HQ in awhile, but I'll send a prayer your way

Posted by: mpfs. Scott Bessent fan grrllll at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (Vu4YK)

36 Reagan defeated the USSR and won the Cold War not by military action but by breaking their backs economically.

Trump will do the same to China's communist regime.

Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (pMi6S)

37 32 "The Guaranteed Trump Recession" hardest hit ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (t+HS7)

======

We're back to "the stock market isn't the economy," again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

38 And, as everyone EXCEPT those with TDS and the Media knew (redundant?)... China has caved.

They had to.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (QAkQ3)

39 Again, any deal that does not incentivize manufacturing and fabrication moving back to the US is a failure, I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (z/ebR)

I wonder if any of the companies planning on moving from Chynah to India have reconsidered given the recent and, no doubt, future unpleasantness with Pokeestahn.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (ExV1e)

40 So that whole maximum pressure thing DOES work after all. Wonders never cease. Some NYC real estate developer actually understands the art of the deal. Wow! Wonder what would happen if Trump wasn't stupid and would read more and listen to his betters.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (2J/Lj)

41
BUY BUY BUY
er... SELL SELL SELL?
Posted by: Jim Cramer Investment Club at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

*farts*

*falls down*

*presses send on text to Paul on investments*

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

42 >>>Now wait a second. Buck told me tariffs are wonderful. Why on earth would we reduce them? Shouldn't we be doubling or tripling them?

How tiresome.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:28 PM (i24o9)

43 Hey, Sponge, haven't been around the HQ in awhile, but I'll send a prayer your way
Posted by: mpfs. Scott Bessent fan grrllll at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (Vu4YK)

Good to see you around again.

And thank you. Very much appreciated.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

44 We're back to "the stock market isn't the economy," again.
--------------
We past the end of history about 15 years ago, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 12, 2025 01:28 PM (n17eQ)

45 Wait! This can't be true. I was told by experts and sources that the world was coming to an end and that Trump was going to crash the economy. Why just the other day Jim Cramer said...

Posted by: Cheri at May 12, 2025 01:28 PM (oiNtH)

46 Federal payments for debt interest isn't getting any relief here.
Debt is consuming all the oxygen.
Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (J6B4f)

Powell is holding the line against OrangeMan and being cheered on by millions who're going to be screwed as a result... and not in a good way.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (ExV1e)

47 Wonder what would happen if Trump wasn't stupid and would read more and listen to his betters.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (2J/Lj)

He might become actually electable.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)

48 Trump folds again!!!!

This is so dumb. You apply pressure, get concessions, then start relieving pressure to reward and reinforce getting concessions. Only cops and parents keep beating a compliant subject.

Posted by: Behavioral operant conditioning 101 at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

49 If I hear or see Smoot-Hawley mentioned one more fucking time...

I'll probably just make fun of them, tbh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (3/Rg9)

I would like to believe, in some circle of his friends or colleagues, some group of people refer to the Senator from Missouri as Smoot.

Maybe his college pals. Or when he runs into Rand Paul. Who he calls McNally.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (vHKB5)

50 Ok.
Well it's all trade negotiation stuff about which I know little and care less.
So...yea?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (xcxpd)

51 I chopped the the terriff,

Posted by: Shade tree expert at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (Y7Xr6)

52 48 Trump folds again!!!!

This is so dumb. You apply pressure, get concessions, then start relieving pressure to reward and reinforce getting concessions. Only cops and parents keep beating a compliant subject.
Posted by: Behavioral operant conditioning 101 at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

======

"Trump's goal is million percent tariffs on the world, and if he doesn't get it, then he's a failure."
-NRO

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (GBKbO)

53 Also...the tariffs will still be 55% when they were 15% when Trump entered office. The same 15% that he set in 2018 that also didn't end the world, Biden never rescinded, and that Biden actually added to (in terms of category, not general number).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)
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From what I saw elsewhere, the Biden Junta didn't bother to enforce any of the trade agreements with China. Reading between the lines, the Biden's were so completely owned by China, Joe really didn't dare enforce anything with China.

YMMV.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (tT6L1)

54 The NPR-niks and chin stroking would-be bien-pensants always fetishize some utopian world where conflicts are settled by rational discourse and negotiation, and yet the femtosecond a leader successfully negotiates something with someone else they're all screaming "PU$$Y! FA&&OT!!! SELLOUT!!!!"

It's adorable.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (r97SN)

55 Federal payments for debt interest isn't getting any relief here.
Debt is consuming all the oxygen.
Posted by: torabora

Heh. Dummies.

Posted by: BRICS at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

56 53 From what I saw elsewhere, the Biden Junta didn't bother to enforce any of the trade agreements with China. Reading between the lines, the Biden's were so completely owned by China, Joe really didn't dare enforce anything with China.

YMMV.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (tT6L1)

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Even if true, the tariffs were enforced from 2018-2020.

And they didn't end the world.

It might be interesting to go back and look at the predictions of people regarding the imposition of those tariffs in 2018.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

57 This is so dumb. You apply pressure, get concessions, then start relieving pressure to reward and reinforce getting concessions. Only cops and parents keep beating a compliant subject.
Posted by: Behavioral operant conditioning 101 at May 12, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)

Well, when your belly button window is dirty and you can't see past the shit.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

58 Smoot-Hawley is uttered by the same ignoramuses who scream "Trump is literally Hitler."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:31 PM (tT6L1)

59 >>>The prime minister said migrants must commit to integration and learning English, as part of a crackdown

>>>Fire Breaks Out in British PM Starmer’s London House

What an unlucky coincidence.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:31 PM (i24o9)

60 The only way Smoot-Hawley even begins to make sense...

Sense? Who's talking about sense? We just thrown shit against the wall and see if something will stick. -- Experts

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:32 PM (ExV1e)

61 I wonder if any of the companies planning on moving from Chynah to India have reconsidered given the recent and, no doubt, future unpleasantness with Pokeestahn.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Going to be a lot more of it. We can no longer be policeman of the world and the rest of the world is going to get a lot less predictable as to investment risk. Pax Americana is dead.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:32 PM (ctrM5)

62 Reagan defeated the USSR and won the Cold War not by military action but by breaking their backs economically.

Trump will do the same to China's communist regime.
Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (pMi6S)
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Isn't that what China has been trying to do to us?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 12, 2025 01:32 PM (7fElN)

63 I chopped the the terriff,

Posted by: Shade tree expert at May 12, 2025 01:30 PM (Y7Xr6)

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But you did not chop the date palm tree.

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:33 PM (t+HS7)

64 Going to be a lot more of it. We can no longer be policeman of the world and the rest of the world is going to get a lot less predictable as to investment risk. Pax Americana is dead.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:32 PM (ctrM5)

Playboy Americana > Pax Americana

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

65 The cuntiferous media is surely already furiously moving goalposts.

They greeted all the good news over the last few weeks about trade deals with other significant trading partners with "who cares, what about CHINA CHINA CHINA??"

They poo-pooed Bessent's meeting last weekend with Chinese officials as a waste of time. They all but cheered Chinese obstructionism and practically added Chinese flags to their social media accounts.

Now that a major deal is announced -- and one that's very positive for the USA -- what will be their fake spin now? They'll probably just ignore or lie about it.

Notice you don't hear any more screeching about the stock market, do you? That was the cuntiferous media's go-to for more than a month.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

66 >>>The prime minister said migrants must commit to integration and learning English, as part of a crackdown

>>>Fire Breaks Out in British PM Starmer’s London House

What an unlucky coincidence.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

Gee, I wonder what happened? Hmmmm

Posted by: mpfs. Scott Bessent fan grrllll at May 12, 2025 01:34 PM (Vu4YK)

67 Pax Americana is dead.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:32 PM (ctrM5)

Pax Americana might very well be a myth.

How many conflicts are going on because one or both sides got loud because they thought uncle Sam had their back?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:34 PM (r97SN)

68
Notice you don't hear any more screeching about the stock market, do you? That was the cuntiferous media's go-to for more than a month.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

In before the media declares it Trump benefiting from the Biden economy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

69 This is kind of funny.

Vanguard's graph of my 401k doesn't show every dip. It is, of course, based on readings from specific days to fill in the points on the graph.

There is...no downturn.
At all.

For this year.

If I had ignored the news and my investments for 6 weeks, come back and looked at it, I'd assume a quiet month of investing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

70 Pax Americana is dead.

From your keyboard to GOD's monitor.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:35 PM (ExV1e)

71 Well, when your belly button window is dirty and you can't see past the shit.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

Huh. You must have very unique physiology.

Posted by: All I see is an opaque indentation and a piece of lint at May 12, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)

72 Almost like the market didn't believe that effective sanctions on China were the end of the world.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

That has nothing to do with it. The only thing the "Market" believes is that uncertainty is bad.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (L5An7)

73 I hear or read about the trade negotiations with China and for some odd reason I start hearing Brian Johnson shriek "got you by the balls"

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (2J/Lj)

74 It will never work. China is too powerful and savvy to fall for any trade war.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (D7oie)

75 Comedy gold left unmined because that Congresswoman who could barely speak English didn't randomly show up and demand to be included in the talks.

Posted by: pookysgirl thinks Puerto Rico lost one of its village idiots at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (Wt5PA)

76 The euphoria in the markets is transitory. It always is.

Reality will settle in before the end of the week.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (Q4IgG)

77 58 Smoot-Hawley is uttered by the same ignoramuses who scream "Trump is literally Hitler."
Posted by: blake

I was an economics major, even then, I could see and it was known from Friedman among others that the Great Depression was largely the Federal Reserve's fault in raising interest rates and reserve requirements causing a monetary crunch post Black October in 1929. Another portion of the blame was the cessation of loans that the US made to Germany which then used those loan proceeds to pay Britain and France reparations and they used to pay us back. Self licking lollipop.

The breakdown of that transfer system had a bigger effect on the world economy than Smoot Hawley did. And the US economy was overwhelmingly domestic at the time with trade less than single digits of the US GDP. Thus, the Fed killed the US economy which then killed the international funds transfer system that then killed the world economy.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (ctrM5)

78 Lol. They know how to cozy up to Trump's ego, at least. "Oh yeah, that other guy we just ignored. But you? Biiiiig peeeenis. Our peeenis very smaw. (So smaw)".

That may be true, but they also owned and operated the entire Biden family. So it's not a stretch that they felt safe to ignore rules and treaties while he was in office.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (2ocoG)

79 20 Again, any deal that does not incentivize manufacturing and fabrication moving back to the US is a failure, I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (z/ebR)
_____________________

A lot of that is going to have to be applied here in the states. China is always going to have the labor cost advantage. So, the question is, how do we neutralize that advantage. The only thing I can think of is an onslaught of "employee owned companies." There would be a base salary, sure. But, the key would be increased salary based on the performance of the company. All of a sudden China's biggest advantage is toast. The by-products of an employee owned company are, also, pretty positive. All of a sudden, the manufacturing and acquisition dept. is keeping a close eye on the marketing dept. and vice versa. Self-policing on slacking workers. True innovative contribution from employees. When factory workers have skin in the game, they reach the next level of professionalism.

Posted by: Orson at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (dIske)

80 What's Nanzi been up to lately?

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (n17eQ)

81
Huh. You must have very unique physiology.
Posted by: All I see is an opaque indentation and a piece of lint at May 12, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)

Belly button window is required to see where you're going when your head is firmly shoved up your ass.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

82 72 That has nothing to do with it. The only thing the "Market" believes is that uncertainty is bad.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (L5An7)

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The only thing the market believes is "line go up."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

83 Ace mouthing off with out thinking is the best Ace.

Even though he has that long scar on his face from a Chinese made shelf, adds character.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (J8LnB)

84 clearly investors are reassured by the bidens recent tv appearances. sid just bought five shares of sperm incorpulated

Posted by: gnatslocal675 at May 12, 2025 01:39 PM (CWTWj)

85
RIP Jim NSD...lurker here, but I talked to him one time on the phone and he was such a character
Posted by: Mo

It's nice to hear so many of You have good memories of Jim. He'll always be with us in the gray boxes.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:39 PM (SC4oz)

86
Where Is Andycanuck?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:39 PM (SC4oz)

87 74 It will never work. China is too powerful and savvy to fall for any trade war.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (D7oie)

These dumbfucks got rolled by a Biden.

All the savvy ones either left or got shot years ago.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:40 PM (r97SN)

88
It's nice to hear so many of You have good memories of Jim. He'll always be with us in the gray boxes.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:39 PM (SC4oz)

And I see he's made the sidebar.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

89 Belly button window is required to see where you're going when your head is firmly shoved up your ass.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

Ahhhhh. A colorful metaphor!

Posted by: Must make it hard to walk at May 12, 2025 01:40 PM (TbWk/)

90 My portfolio is shining again!
Posted by: Biden's Dog

My wife and I just got off a call with our financial advisor. As of today, both our portfolios are in the black for the first time.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:40 PM (77rzZ)

91 From your keyboard to GOD's monitor.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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We have a little over 200 surface ships, aging air assets, and an expanding public distaste for overseas entanglements and spending.

And missiles of all sorts are far cheaper than ships and even sophisticated ones are becoming common arms for tribes like the Houthis as well as other nations.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (ctrM5)

92 VOTE VANCE!

Posted by: Sid just wants to vote for Vance at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (GNz3z)

93 both our portfolios are in the black for the first time.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:40 PM (77rzZ)

Perhaps a new financial advisor is in order?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (i24o9)

94 Belly button window is required to see where you're going when your head is firmly shoved up your ass.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

Ahhhhh. A colorful metaphor!
Posted by: Must make it hard to walk

I remember the ep of Ren and Stimpy where Stimpy went into his own bellybutton.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (77rzZ)

95 Dems really have been on a winning streak:
- The price of eggs are too high and will never come down!
- Republicans are regretting their vote for Trump!
- Maryland man is innocent!
- Tariffs will kill the economy!
- etc.

But, I'm sure their "the airplane from Qatar is a bribe!" will land.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2025 01:42 PM (sYVcz)

96 moron surrenders to china in trade war. hes dropping his 125% tariff on china to 10% and in return china is dropping their reciprical tariff to the same.

so all he did was raise the cost of chinese imports 10%

this is still not a win for any of us. we still are having to pay more but maybe that was the mission. forced inflation to help his corporate buddies

Pump and dump stock market for insiders...rinse and repeat. MTG plus a bunch of cabinet flunkies and donors will make a lot of money using various pump/dump and short sells every time mango Mussolini opens his mouth on tariffs

He's so stupid he really believed manufacturing would come running back, and people would be okay with paying $35 for a pack of toilet paper and the kids having two Barbies and five pencils while he took delivery of a massive jetliner dripping with gold. He really believed it.

Those numbers are probably going to change again soon. It just takes a few talking heads to say he’s made a bad deal. Then we’re back to square one again. 🤡 🤪

And the bond market? Business on a 90-day timeline isn't good business.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 12, 2025 01:42 PM (JCZqz)

97 I see Sidphilis has come forth with another of his demented assertions.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (tT6L1)

98 both our portfolios are in the black for the first time.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:40 PM (77rzZ)

Perhaps a new financial advisor is in order?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

What, that's not a good thing?

Maybe he meant for the first time this year. I don't understand this stuff very well.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)

99 We have a little over 200 surface ships, aging air assets, and an expanding public distaste for overseas entanglements and spending.

And missiles of all sorts are far cheaper than ships and even sophisticated ones are becoming common arms for tribes like the Houthis as well as other nations.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (ctrM5)

If we are not investing heavily in cutting edge drone and counter drone tech (and not just the multi-billion dollar pork-laden kind), then we face a future of disappointment and loss.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (i24o9)

100 It's Trump's fault.

Posted by: Whatever happened at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (4Lxlt)

101 by: Sid at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (GNz3z)

Go back to sucking your mom's dick and leave us alone, dumb fuck.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (2J/Lj)

102 73 I hear or read about the trade negotiations with China and for some odd reason I start hearing Brian Johnson shriek "got you by the balls"
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 12, 2025 01:37 PM (2J/Lj)

"Me love you ~~long time~~ for four years"

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (N39Ws)

103 I've got the local facebook forums for the towns in my area complete freaking out because ICE is apprehending illegals. They are trying to follow ICE and report where they are and at first I was getting angry - this is like letting a murderer know the police are casing the neighborhood he's in but...

Now I want them to do this. The more they spin up the terror the more the illegals will feel it too. And maybe this will persuade them to self deport.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (t0Rmr)

104 We will benefit. Can you imagine?! This a total inversion of government.

Posted by: t-bird at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (KtPtl)

105 Posted by: Sid at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (GNz3z)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 12, 2025 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

106 Perhaps a new financial advisor is in order?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (i24o9)
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I learned long ago that I can make (more) money with my own stock picks. I haven't had an "advisor" for almost 20 years.

BTW, one of my best stock picks was based on a comment here at AOSHQ about 2 years ago. I bought Tesla. It made sense.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:44 PM (lkmGL)

107 Gee, Whig, you don't think that it was due to a liquidity trap, where everyone sat on their money until the price of everything deflated to zero?

You will never win a Nobel in economics that way!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 01:44 PM (D7oie)

108 China can say whatever they want. Will it be enforced? That’s the key. And are there triggers in place to jack up Tarriffs back to 150% when (not if) the Chinese cheat.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (e4LaW)

109 80 What's Nanzi been up to lately?
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 12, 2025 01:38 PM (n17eQ)
Planning her return in January 2027.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (LHPAg)

110 "We'll give you $1,000 and free air fare, and keep your place in line for you, if you just pack up and leave willingly."

"Ermagerd, the terror!"

Piss off.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (r97SN)

111 What, that's not a good thing?

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)

It's a good thing, but even an unadvised moron like me can be in the black, especially in this market (hovering at +46% on the year right now).

If this market is what it takes to get you in the black, I wonder about the investment advice is all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (i24o9)

112 Posted by: Sid at May 12, 2025 01:41 PM (GNz3z)
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LOSING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (lkmGL)

113
If we are not investing heavily in cutting edge drone and counter drone tech (and not just the multi-billion dollar pork-laden kind), then we face a future of disappointment and loss.

The lesson of the Uke war is if your enemy can see your assets he can destroy them.

So you want things that are small, cheap, and replaceable. The current US military mantra of "the more money the more better" is completely at odds with that idea.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

114 Stay 'tarded, Sid.

Posted by: Somebody had to do it I guess at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

115 Reagan defeated the USSR and won the Cold War not by military action but by breaking their backs economically.

Trump will do the same to China's communist regime.
Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (pMi6S)
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Isn't that what China has been trying to do to us?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 12, 2025 01:32 PM (7fElN)

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Explicitly.

See Xi's "One Road, One Belt" Initiative (relabeled BRI for Belt and Road Initiative) international agenda -- formally incorporated into the Chinese constitution in 2017.

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (Sf/Gg)

116
The Left: Trump's tariffs need to go!

Also the Left: haha, Trump caves on tariffs!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (SC4oz)

117 114 Stay 'tarded, Sid.
Posted by: Somebody had to do it I guess at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

========

He just wants to vote for Vance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

118 Where Is Andycanuck?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:39 PM (SC4oz)

Slightly salty because the US is for once putting our interests above other countries' and he lives in one of those other countries. I hope he'll be back, we love him despite his location.

Posted by: pookysgirl, putting up the Maple Leaf signal at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (Wt5PA)

119 How many conflicts are going on because one or both sides got loud because they thought uncle Sam had their back?
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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Think it was more that the US would step in to stop destructive wars if they got too far. US during the Clinton era had to step in when Paki and India in the 90's nearly went to nukes for example. Same in some other places like Cyprus between the Greeks and the Turks, and so on.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (ctrM5)

120 He's so stupid he really believed manufacturing would come running back, and people would be okay with paying $35 for a pack of toilet paper and the kids having two Barbies and five pencils while he took delivery of a massive jetliner dripping with gold. He really believed it.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 12, 2025 01:42 PM (JCZqz)
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I see the math challenged at DU have spoken again.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (tT6L1)

121 I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (z/ebR)

They are our enemy...of that we can be sure. Assuming that China is just like any other nation is a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (L5An7)

122 116
The Left: Trump's tariffs need to go!

Also the Left: haha, Trump caves on tariffs!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (SC4oz)

======

Also, also the left: Trump told me personally that he wants 1,000,000% tariffs on the world, and if he gets less than that, then he fails.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

123 The only times our investment portfolio was "in the red" was a couple during *biden's blunders and for a couple days during the "great tariff scare of 25."

We've regained all losses and are once again making bank.

For now. I'm sure the euphoria is temporary.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (Q4IgG)

124 What's Nanzi been up to lately?
Posted by: Pudinhead
......

At least a quart.

Posted by: wth at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

125 103 I've got the local facebook forums for the towns in my area complete freaking out because ICE is apprehending illegals. They are trying to follow ICE and report where they are and at first I was getting angry - this is like letting a murderer know the police are casing the neighborhood he's in but...

Now I want them to do this. The more they spin up the terror the more the illegals will feel it too. And maybe this will persuade them to self deport.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (t0Rmr)

You should mention you think you saw someone handcuffing one of the internet followers for interference of a federal officer...but you hope you're wrong b/c the prison sentence for that would suck for someone doing the right thing.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (tOcjL)

126 Slightly salty because the US is for once putting our interests above other countries' and he lives in one of those other countries. I hope he'll be back, we love him despite his location.

eh he needs to give his balls a tug!

Posted by: Black Orchid at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (Pv3Rg)

127 Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Well, I'm certainly not capable of questioning his advise. We've been with this firm for a long time, and I'm not switching now.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

128
He just wants to vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (Zz0t1)

129 So you want things that are small, cheap, and replaceable. The current US military mantra of "the more money the more better" is completely at odds with that idea.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (t0Rmr)

Distributed, numerous, massively force-multiplying. And counter-tech to defend against same.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (i24o9)

130 121 I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (z/ebR)

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With a replacement birthrate below 1 (very likely), the nation will be roughly a quarter of its size in a couple of generations.

Decouple from China, then ignore them.

They're imploding

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

131 Today is shaping up to be one of the best days my stock investments have ever had

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

132 Slightly salty because the US is for once putting our interests above other countries' and he lives in one of those other countries. I hope he'll be back, we love him despite his location.
Posted by: pookysgirl
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My guess is he won't. Canada is in pretty bad financial shape and getting worse by the year and if Alberta starts threatening to overturn the applecart, things will get worse up there.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (ctrM5)

133 How many conflicts are going on because one or both sides got loud because they thought uncle Sam had their back?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Uncle Sam typically has our backs only if he's buttfucking us.

Posted by: Both hands on your shoulders for prostate exam at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (TbWk/)

134 121 I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM (z/ebR)

They are our enemy...of that we can be sure. Assuming that China is just like any other nation is a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (L5An7)

With their one child policy, the law of unintended consequences will prevail. China can not sustain their power with such a declining population.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (N39Ws)

135 If you don't think the Left or Democrats were diabolical back in 2004, making shaky Michael J Fox the front man for their Abortion Quest (while of course selling baby parts) was demonic.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (M/gGe)

136 US during the Clinton era had to step in when Paki and India in the 90's nearly went to nukes for example.
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Pakis and Hindus blowing each other up would be great for the environment according climate change.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (n17eQ)

137 BTW, one of my best stock picks was based on a comment here at AOSHQ about 2 years ago. I bought Tesla. It made sense.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:44 PM (lkmGL)

Most of my gains have been off of Space Daddy and the price swings at Tesla.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (i24o9)

138 Gold and silver mining stocks are down 5-15% ... guess "the end of the world as we know it" is delayed ... again.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (Cus5s)

139 Boocoo dinky dow?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM

Me love you long time.

Posted by: Lima Bravo Foxtrot Mike at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (g07/a)

140 Ugh......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

141 134 With their one child policy, the law of unintended consequences will prevail. China can not sustain their power with such a declining population.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (N39Ws)

=======

They have tens of millions of single men who cannot get married and have kids.

The country is actively and quickly contracting.

They won't be able to exert power over Taiwan or North Korea in 20 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

142 And let's not forget Bessent did this in the midst of being drug to a pointless hearing to be harangued by midwit Dems desperate for a TV soundbite.

Where he roundly mocked them, farted in their general direction and returned to doing the work for the American people.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (sYVcz)

143
You should mention you think you saw someone handcuffing one of the internet followers for interference of a federal officer...but you hope you're wrong b/c the prison sentence for that would suck for someone doing the right thing.

They are telling each other Trump is going to use the cover of deporting illegals to arrest them and send them to black sites.

Of course the same assholes wanted Biden to round up people not getting the clot shot to send them to black sites.

But...your idea is an interesting one.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)

144 They are our enemy...of that we can be sure.

Yes, the CCP- their Deep State working hand-in-hand with
our Deep State- is the enemy of our peoples.

Posted by: t-bird at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (KtPtl)

145 It's a good thing, but even an unadvised moron like me can be in the black, especially in this market (hovering at +46% on the year right now).

If this market is what it takes to get you in the black, I wonder about the investment advice is all.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 01:45 PM (i24o9)

It all depends on how you invest, which depends on your risk tolerance and whatnot. I haven't made any money since November. That has to do with how I'm invested, which is the result of many hours of conversation between me and my advisor. I have, however, made a number of changes to put me in a secure position to retire later this year. Should start seeing investment increases again soonish.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (ExV1e)

146 I see the math challenged at DU have spoken again.
Posted by: blake
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They are upset that the prices of buttplugs, dilators, and dildoes will soar.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (ctrM5)

147 143 They are telling each other Trump is going to use the cover of deporting illegals to arrest them and send them to black sites.

Of course the same assholes wanted Biden to round up people not getting the clot shot to send them to black sites.

But...your idea is an interesting one.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)

========

"I cannot believe you dumb fucks. Trump doesn't care about illegals. They're not his enemy. He's using them to scare you normies. He's actually using ICE to murder trannies."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

148 131 Today is shaping up to be one of the best days my stock investments have ever had
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (t0Rmr)

Did you only recently start investing? Market is up 3-4% There have been probably 100 days with bigger gains in the past 10-15 years.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (e4LaW)

149
You know, if You think about it...

If President Trump gets just 25% of what he wants, that's STILL a Big Improvement for Us.

That's why he's shooting for the Moon. He won't get 100% for us, but he'll get 25%, or maybe half.

That's quite the contrast to the Republicans S.O.P. of asking ONLY for what they think Democrats will allow, and then settling for 10% of it.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (SC4oz)

150 Hamas lets last LIVING American hostage go...

Please check his fingerprints and DNA.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (QAkQ3)

151 With their one child policy, the law of unintended consequences will prevail. China can not sustain their power with such a declining population.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (N39Ws)

Unless they coopt western leaders to do their bidding and force other more "vibrant" world populations to subsidize them through chicanery and theft.

I guess I shouldn't give them any ideas.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (M/gGe)

152 The WEF is probably furious Pakistan and India have decided to stop shooting at each other, for now. I'm sure the WEF was collective orgasm over the thought of a few hundred million less people on earth.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (tT6L1)

153 =========
They are upset that the prices of buttplugs, dilators, and dildoes will soar.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (ctrM5)

Don't forget the Chinese knockoff plastic f*ck dolls.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)

154 143
You should mention you think you saw someone handcuffing one of the internet followers for interference of a federal officer...but you hope you're wrong b/c the prison sentence for that would suck for someone doing the right thing.

They are telling each other Trump is going to use the cover of deporting illegals to arrest them and send them to black sites.

Of course the same assholes wanted Biden to round up people not getting the clot shot to send them to black sites.

But...your idea is an interesting one.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (t0Rmr)

I'm betting it stops all the idiots cold...which would be the idea. While still getting folks to self-deport b/c now they are willing to go after "the helpers"...

And you can admit you were wrong later...must have been for something else or glasses must have been foggy...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (tOcjL)

155 I've got the local facebook forums for the towns in my area complete freaking out because ICE is apprehending illegals. They are trying to follow ICE and report where they are and at first I was getting angry - this is like letting a murderer know the police are casing the neighborhood he's in but...

Now I want them to do this. The more they spin up the terror the more the illegals will feel it too. And maybe this will persuade them to self deport.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:43 PM (t0Rmr)

ICE needs to outfit a bunch of white vans that have ICE in giant letters then "cream" in tiny letters to make the false alarms skyrocket.

Posted by: pookysgirl has great troll ideas at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (Wt5PA)

156 That's why he's shooting for the Moon. He won't get 100% for us, but he'll get 25%, or maybe half.

That's quite the contrast to the Republicans S.O.P. of asking ONLY for what they think Democrats will allow, and then settling for 10% of it.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (SC4oz)

Wow... its almost like he knows how to do business... maybe he should write a book or something... maybe call it...

The Art of the Deal...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (QAkQ3)

157 With their one child policy, the law of unintended consequences will prevail. China can not sustain their power with such a declining population.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (N39Ws)

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They have tens of millions of single men who cannot get married and have kids.

The country is actively and quickly contracting.

They won't be able to exert power over Taiwan or North Korea in 20 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)
________

"What about us??"

-- Leftover Women

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)

158 The time to crush China was 30 years ago. It’s too intertwined in everything to do it now. Best we can do is contain them.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (e4LaW)

159 Gee, Whig, you don't think that it was due to a liquidity trap, where everyone sat on their money until the price of everything deflated to zero?

You will never win a Nobel in economics that way!

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 01:44 PM (D7oie)

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I expect my upcoming book "Thomas Friedman's Brain Is Flat And Smooth: But Mostly Smooth" to win a Nobel in Economics.

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (EsiFJ)

160 Hamas lets last LIVING American hostage go...

Please check his fingerprints and DNA.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (QAkQ3)
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Don't get it. Please explain.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (lkmGL)

161 Here is one basic investment point - diversify. Not only across companies, not only across sectors, but across investment types as well.

That was in a growing economy you will almost certainly do well.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (t0Rmr)

162
For Instance, PDT wants no tax on Overtime. So if he gets a 50% tax reduction on Overtime pay, that's FuckingHuge. That's Still a big win.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (SC4oz)

163 103 I've got the local facebook forums for the towns in my area complete freaking out because ICE is apprehending illegals. They are trying to follow ICE and report where they are and at first I was getting angry - this is like letting a murderer know the police are casing the neighborhood he's in but...

Now I want them to do this. The more they spin up the terror the more the illegals will feel it too. And maybe this will persuade them to self deport.
Posted by: 18-1

There's a subreddit called Ice_raids I saw a post for recently. Crying about ICE smashing out the windows of an illegal that was resisting arrest. I made some blunt (but truthful) comments and got instantly banned. Apparently it's a site ONLY for reporting active or upcoming ICE raids so people can avoid, hinder, or protest. It's great for us though, because we can see all the ICE action and arrests, and (like you said) it may spread fear among the illegal community and encourage them to self deport.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (JCZqz)

164 138 Gold and silver mining stocks are down 5-15% ... guess "the end of the world as we know it" is delayed ... again.
Posted by: illiniwek
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Those are merely proxies for actual silver and gold. Both of those markets get distorted nowadays from demand in India and China for physical silver and gold as hedges against inflation and unrest.

Stores of value, nothing more or nothing less.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (ctrM5)

165 139 Boocoo dinky dow?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 12, 2025 01:23 PM

Me love you long time.
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I know you. You someone.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (n17eQ)

166 Don't forget the Chinese knockoff plastic f*ck dolls.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)

Wait, is there a bill in the Senate about--- oh, you mean literal...

Nevermind.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (r97SN)

167 161 Here is one basic investment point - diversify. Not only across companies, not only across sectors, but across investment types as well.

That was in a growing economy you will almost certainly do well.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (t0Rmr)

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Nah.

90% into the QQQs.
10% into a put option on the QQQs a year out.

You get all of the growth of the high-movement stocks while none of the risk.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

168
Whereas Republicans wouldn't even ask for a tax cut, or they'd ask for a pathetic "rebate" check like Bush did.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (SC4oz)

169 "What about us??"

-- Leftover Women
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)

Tough shit. A salaryman wasn't good enough for them, they all wanted a Party Leader or oligarch. Now they're single and barren.

Posted by: Enjoy the cats at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (TbWk/)

170 I expect my upcoming book "Thomas Friedman's Brain Is Flat And Smooth: But Mostly Smooth" to win a Nobel in Economics.

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:52 PM (EsiFJ)
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You may have to settle for a winner-winner chicken dinner.

That is, a pullet surprise.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (lkmGL)

171 Bill Maher Says Democrats Went From “Men Can Have Babies” to “We Like the Terrorists”

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Next cannibalism for fun and profit?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (L/fGl)

172 There was protest in Massachusetts yesterday called something like hands off moms. Because apparently ICE arrested an illegal who’s also a mother. And apparently if you pop out a kid you are no longer subject to immigration laws.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (e4LaW)

173 Bill Maher Says Democrats Went From “Men Can Have Babies” to “We Like the Terrorists”

And you support them. F*ck off.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

174 Book idea:

An anthology of essays about how past Nobel Prize winners were full of shit and the research that proved it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

175 They are our enemy...of that we can be sure. Assuming that China is just like any other nation is a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (L5An7)

Not sure I agree with that sentiment. China is just like any other nation. They're all prepared to be our enemy depending on circumstances. China is just more prepared.

Assuming that countries friendly to us will remain friendly to us forever is also flirting with disaster. -- Molly Hatchet

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (ExV1e)

176
Did you only recently start investing? Market is up 3-4% There have been probably 100 days with bigger gains in the past 10-15 years.

Everyone's portfolio is built a little different of course.

And this isn't the only good day I've had but I'm about 5% across a very diversified portfolio which in a *day* is good.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (t0Rmr)

177 You may have to settle for a winner-winner chicken dinner.

That is, a pullet surprise.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (lkmGL)

The Pullet Prize !

Posted by: runner at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (g47mK)

178 And you support them. F*ck off.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)
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Prime candidate for a belly button window.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (tT6L1)

179 171 Bill Maher Says Democrats Went From “Men Can Have Babies” to “We Like the Terrorists”

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Next cannibalism for fun and profit?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (L/fGl)

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Did he miss the "We Like Terrorists" phase of the W presidency?

Or the Reagan presidency?

Or the Nixon presidency?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

180 And apparently if you pop out a kid you are no longer subject to immigration laws.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (e4LaW)

And they're wrong.

Kid goes away with mom. Kid can come back when they're 18 and live in the US as a citizen. They can apply to bring their family with them at a later date.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

181 Also, also the left: Trump told me personally that he wants 1,000,000% tariffs on the world, and if he gets less than that, then he fails.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

He told me the same thing. Then he told me that I tee off like a 6 week old girl.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (ExV1e)

182 Don't forget the Chinese knockoff plastic f*ck dolls.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (Zz0t1)

That is no way to talk about Meghan Markle

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (M/gGe)

183 159 Gee, Whig, you don't think that it was due to a liquidity trap, where everyone sat on their money until the price of everything deflated to zero?

You will never win a Nobel in economics that way!

Posted by: Kindltot

Nope. If it was, the post war 1919-1920 Depression would have lasted through the 20's.

Federal Reserve response botched it is pretty clear. There is actually a very good contemporary source for the Depression in a book by the Senior Economist at the time at Chase Manhattan Bank. Some good facts there seen at the time from his perch along with dispelling misconceptions in the record promoted by New Deal zealots.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

184
Prime candidate for a belly button window.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (tT6L1)

Heh.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

185

Prix du poulet ! (Ask CBD what that means...)

Posted by: runner at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (g47mK)

186 You may have to settle for a winner-winner chicken dinner.

That is, a pullet surprise.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 12, 2025 01:54 PM (lkmGL)

The Pullet Prize !
Posted by: runner at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (g47mK)

Pullet with butterfly wings

Posted by: The world is chicken vampire at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (TbWk/)

187 Trump will do the same to China's communist regime.
Posted by: zombie at May 12, 2025 01:27 PM (pMi6S)
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b"h

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (RIvkX)

188 ICE needs to outfit a bunch of white vans that have ICE in giant letters then "cream" in tiny letters to make the false alarms skyrocket.
Posted by: pookysgirl has great troll ideas

That's almost literally what the ICE_Raids subreddit I just mentioned posted a real example of lol
https://tinyurl.com/mujtztax

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (JCZqz)

189 Di di! Di di mau!

Posted by: Lima Bravo Foxtrot Mike at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (g07/a)

190 A researcher from a school in Ghent
Had subjects fitted with a stent
though they felt good they'd find
that cholesterol would still bind
but might be cured with cells totipontent

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (D7oie)

191
That is no way to talk about Meghan Markle
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 01:55 PM (M/gGe)

I figured she'd take it as a compliment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

192 For someone who acts as if he’s a sharp political commentator, Bill Maher sure does miss the obvious eventual path of progressive piliciand behavior, huh?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (Hkcdp)

193 An anthology of essays about how past Nobel Prize winners were full of shit and the research that proved it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The idea that scientists were virtuous truth tellers is about as silly as the virtuous politician.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (ctrM5)

194 You get all of the growth of the high-movement stocks while none of the risk.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

Technically you get 90% of the growth, with a little bit of the risk if everything stays sideways for a year.

But it's about the safest play you can make.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (r97SN)

195 I started investing when I was 22,23. Just basic 401k deductions. All went into the cheapest mutual funds available which were usually index funds. And that’s what I’ve done pretty much over the past 25 years. Index funds and QQQ. Never panic sell. Never lose sleep over day to day or even quarter to quarter fluctuations. Just buy and hold. In a few years there will be enough there to retire early.

No magic to it. Boring wins the long game.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (e4LaW)

196 "The benchmark has cut its year-to-date losses to just 0.9%."

It is still down 5% from its high back in mid-February. But it made a big break through the 200 day moving average, today.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (Cus5s)

197 Unless they coopt western leaders to do their bidding and force other more "vibrant" world populations to subsidize them through chicanery and theft.

I guess I shouldn't give them any ideas.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 01:50 PM (M/gGe)

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Old & Busted: African Americans.
New Hotness: African Chinese Catholics.

Posted by: ShainS -- Sovereignty Trumps Journalism (#OrangeHorseBad)! at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (EsiFJ)

198 26 If I hear or see Smoot-Hawley mentioned one more fucking time...

I'll probably just make fun of them, tbh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (3/Rg9)

Halsey Taylor water fountain>Lynn Halsey Taylor>Smoot Hawley

Posted by: haffhowershower at May 12, 2025 01:57 PM (K+s1B)

199 Another cracked column in a Florida condo.

Posted by: eleven at May 12, 2025 01:58 PM (0HaGk)

200 90% into the QQQs.
10% into a put option on the QQQs a year out.

You get all of the growth of the high-movement stocks while none of the risk.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yup. I put my tax returns and some other extra cash I had into QQQ on April 15th, and it's already up around 11%.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 12, 2025 01:58 PM (JCZqz)

201 They have tens of millions of single men who cannot get married and have kids.
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Send in the Tranny Comfort Brigade!

Posted by: Civilizational Locusts of South Berwick at May 12, 2025 01:58 PM (qUkBO)

202 I expect my upcoming book "Thomas Friedman's Brain Is Flat And Smooth: But Mostly Smooth" to win a Nobel in Economics.
Posted by: ShainS
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Pan head engines good, pan head brain, not so much.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

203 189 Di di! Di di mau!
Posted by: Lima Bravo Foxtrot Mike at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (g07/a)

Chinese for little dick?

Di di - little brother - dick

Mao - little

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 01:59 PM (r97SN)

204
Please note: the DUmmies are upset that our Economy isn't collapsing.

So disregard Everything they say, except for amusement.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:59 PM (SC4oz)

205 Smoot Hawley sounds dirty.

Posted by: eleven at May 12, 2025 01:59 PM (0HaGk)

206 Trump is calibrating the tarriff scale
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 12, 2025 01:26 PM (rT96s)
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I am a dummy but in my opinion he's got a lot to balance.
One the one hand he gets revenue and no trade war by negotiating with China and other countries for a "better deal." But the other hand is that without egregious tariffs, you're not going to get the onshoring of industries that left for slave-labor countries because it'll still be cheaper to produce there.

I don't think there's a balance point where he can get both, and the onshoring of jobs and industries would be more beneficial long term, while hurting more now.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 12, 2025 02:00 PM (FCbAQ)

207 My guess is he won't. Canada is in pretty bad financial shape and getting worse by the year and if Alberta starts threatening to overturn the applecart, things will get worse up there.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (ctrM5)

I hope you're wrong, for his and others' sake. One-third of my denomination is in Canada, and although the Toronto faction is where we get most of the Leftward pressure from, the majority of our churches up there are full of hard-working conservatives.

Posted by: pookysgirl, eh? at May 12, 2025 02:00 PM (Wt5PA)

208 204
Please note: the DUmmies are upset that our Economy isn't collapsing.

So disregard Everything they say, except for amusement.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 12, 2025 01:59 PM (SC4oz)

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The stock market isn't the economy. It wasn't when it went up under Trump's first term. It wasn't when it went up (almost exclusively, except Autumn 2022) under Biden.

I keep bringing it up, but the GDP numbers for Q1 showed a strong, growing economy, despite the topline -.3%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:00 PM (GBKbO)

209 "What about us??"

-- Leftover Women
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 01:51 PM (iFTx/)

Tough shit. A salaryman wasn't good enough for them, they all wanted a Party Leader or oligarch. Now they're single and barren.
Posted by: Enjoy the cats at May 12, 2025 01:53 PM (TbWk/)
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Not that simple. The leftover women are in their late 20s and early 30s. They are shunned by the vast majority of Chinese men who are interested only in younger women, despite there being a shortage of available women. There's a good case to be made that the men are being too picky, not the women.

In any event, it's very odd that in a country where men outnumber women and are desperate to find wives, there is an entire demographic of relatively young, otherwise desirable women who are not in the dating pool. Whether they were pushed out, or they took themselves out (or combo) is mostly irrelevant because the entire situation is mystifying.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:00 PM (iFTx/)

210 Di di! Di di mau!
Posted by: Lima Bravo Foxtrot Mike

Fooky fooky two dollah.

Posted by: Fook Mi at May 12, 2025 02:01 PM (v0R5T)

211 New Hotness: African Chinese Catholics.
Posted by: ShainS

I had African students over the years and they generally despise the Chinese in their home countries even to the point of believing that prior French or British colonization was superior. Not an isolated pattern either. As the US and USSR found out, you simply cannot buy love in the long term abroad however much money you spend.

See the same dynamic with heirs and the person they expect to inherit from.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

212 The Episcopal Church, also known as "The Church of Sid," has ended its refugee resettlement programs because Trump granted refugee status to white South Africans.

https://tinyurl.com/yv22ybhu

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 12, 2025 02:01 PM (paSBy)

213 If you thought the 2020 election was dirty just wait until Alberta or Saskatchewan votes to secede. There will be bucks with ballots stretching a mile long. There is no way the global deep state will allow that.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (e4LaW)

214 212 The Episcopal Church, also known as "The Church of Sid," has ended its refugee resettlement programs because Trump granted refugee status to white South Africans.

https://tinyurl.com/yv22ybhu
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 12, 2025 02:01 PM (paSBy)

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But mostly because federal funds had been cut.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

215 The man who called the 9/11 hijackers (who slit 5 foot nothing stewardesses' throats with box cutters) "brave", has a problem with "we like terrorists" now?

My God I don't know who is more full of shit, him or every other commie fag Democrat.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (M/gGe)

216 if Alberta starts threatening to overturn the applecart, things will get worse up there.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM (ctrM5)

Funny thought. Alberta revolts, votes to become a US territory.

Edmonton wins the Stanley Cup. America maintains possession of the Cup.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

217 If I hear or see Smoot-Hawley mentioned one more fucking time...

I'll probably just make fun of them, tbh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at May 12, 2025 01:25 PM (3/Rg9)

Irrelevant digression! There are some antique revolvers made by Remington that are called "Remington Smoots", apparently because the used some Smoot patents. Is it the same Smoot, or a relative?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (6RxEw)

218 The time to crush China was 30 years ago. It’s too intertwined in everything to do it now. Best we can do is contain them.
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Containing them, at this point, will crush them.

Anyway, another narrative of the leftie propaganda falls.

The same pattern:
Only the most drastic solution will work and we can't try that now because it's too radical and besides it'll be 10 years before it works so we need to just keep doing what we've been doing.

Yet, Trump--by merely trying--is driving dramatic results.
Which the left and their propagandists demanded we believe was impossible.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (sYVcz)

219 I figured she'd take it as a compliment.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

Supposedly, she was a very, very, very popular yacht girl. No doubt due tot he quality of her conversation.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (ExV1e)

220 By Jove, I think he's got it!

"What I think happened last election is younger men -- they would rather vote for somebody who they don’t completely agree with, they don’t feel judged by, than somebody who they do agree with, that they feel like they have to walk on eggshells around constantly… Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun."
-- David Hogg

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (g07/a)

221 Orange Man Bad persecuting another entrepreneur.

ICE Arrests Alleged Venezuelan Hitman in Texas

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And what's this with "hitman"? They prefer end of life specialist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)

222 Smoot Hawley sounds dirty.
Posted by: eleven

Mrs. Douglas always asked me to ride her like she was a Hawley.
-- Floyd Smoot

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)

223 China essentially caved.

This is the same deal they would have had without doing any tariff retaliation.

Also, it still leaves 30% tariffs + untouched.

And finally, in 90 days it all starts over.

I guess they really do need trade.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (IuIym)

224 All I want is for my grandchildren to grow up in the same America I did.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (u73oe)

225 Maybe the Episcopal charge is ending its refugee resettlement because it lost its USAID money, but couldn’t resist a goof “Because Trump!” Flounce?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (Hkcdp)

226 Another thing that needs to be brought up regarding the current negotiations:

China has seen very large demonstrations against Xi.

America has been largely ignoring the issue, complaining about a dip in stock market returns (which has completely been erased, even before today), and mostly focusing on illegal immigration.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

227 Best Smoot is unit-of-distance Smoot.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 12, 2025 02:04 PM (g07/a)

228 BREAKING: The Episcopal Church has announced it will end its decades-old partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by the Trump admin.

So the beast can be made to dismember itself? I love it.

Also, this proves that replacement theory ain't a conspiracy theory, it's a conspiracy fact.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:04 PM (2ocoG)

229 But mostly because federal funds had been cut.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)
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We have a hotel, locally, which was bought by Catholic Charities supposedly to house the homeless. It appears all work has stopped on the facility. I wonder what may have happened?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 02:04 PM (tT6L1)

230
The markets are supposed to be plunging to 0.00! We said they were in free fall! TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2025 02:04 PM (QnmlO)

231 Smoot Hawley sounds dirty.
Posted by: eleven

smut + soot = smoot

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (eb5mD)

232 I figured she'd take it as a compliment.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

Supposedly, she was a very, very, very popular yacht girl. No doubt due tot he quality of her conversation.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (ExV1e)
___________

She would regale the horny rich guys with her take on Pride & Prejudice

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (iFTx/)

233 "Oh, he's definitely a hitman. But we still have to prove in a court of law that he's Venezuelan."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (r97SN)

234 I hope you're wrong, for his and others' sake. One-third of my denomination is in Canada, and although the Toronto faction is where we get most of the Leftward pressure from, the majority of our churches up there are full of hard-working conservatives.
Posted by: pookysgirl
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I don't deal in hopes. Canada is in rough shape likely to get rougher and under the new Liberal government for the next five years is likely to implode. The trigger could very well be Alberta and carbon taxes from the central government.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (ctrM5)

235 I don’t want China bankrupt. I want China as the maker of cheap junk that we can do with or without. Like Japan during the Occupation. That will give them _some_ place in the world. Let the true China, Nationalist China, make the latest in chips and high tech. I’m fine with that. Let the mainland WANT to be West Taiwan. Well, I can dream.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (/HoPU)

236 "Again, any deal that does not incentivize manufacturing and fabrication moving back to the US is a failure, I don't want better terms with China, I want China dead, economically speaking"

so, first off, you want production to leave China, period.

To force it to America you probably need global tariffs of 100%+.

Good luck.

American firms have problems - because they are now used to very low volume high priced production runs

They need to start stretching and automating more.

30-70% which is what it will be now should be enough.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (IuIym)

237 Smoot Hawley sounds dirty.

Fred Smoot did some things as part of the Minnesota Vikings "Love Boat" scandal. Something about a double-ended CBD.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (2ocoG)

238 The brave thing Maher said was a bit of a nothing burger. Everyone knew what he meant. In a way it’s a Trunpism where the point was valid but he said it in a clumsy way.

Does anyone really believe Maher was a fan of 9/11 terrorists? I mean come on.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 02:06 PM (e4LaW)

239 Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:00 PM (iFTx/)

You're probably right that the situation has a different dynamic there than the West, which I am much more familiar with than that of China. Doesn't look good for either population if things continue in their respective directions.

Posted by: Would human extinction be that bad? at May 12, 2025 02:06 PM (TbWk/)

240 Another thing that needs to be brought up regarding the current negotiations:

China has seen very large demonstrations against Xi.

America has been largely ignoring the issue, complaining about a dip in stock market returns (which has completely been erased, even before today), and mostly focusing on illegal immigration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)
________

Another reason why China was desperate for a trade deal, and Trump knew it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:06 PM (iFTx/)

241 From a few reports I've seen, many producers have already started leaving China and moving toward Vietnam or India (or a few other places).

Lots of videos of silent ports and shut down factories, with no orders. Their domestic spending also seems to have collapsed. Aldi's in China was doing well though .. one show saying they could supply cheaper prices because China stores had more ? regulation .. and graft I suppose.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2025 02:06 PM (Cus5s)

242 228 BREAKING: The Episcopal Church has announced it will end its decades-old partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by the Trump admin.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Good. Churches have no business in sponsoring refugees in the first place unless they want to assume financial and criminal liability for them so they are not a burden on taxpayers.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:07 PM (ctrM5)

243 "I don’t want China bankrupt. I want China as the maker of cheap junk that we can do with or without. Like Japan during the Occupation. That will give them _some_ place in the world. Let the true China, Nationalist China, make the latest in chips and high tech. I’m fine with that. Let the mainland WANT to be West Taiwan. Well, I can dream."

That will never happen. China is now too advanced.

The internet led to massive speed runs by all countries.

Taiwan sent everything except some chips to China because their currency went up 60% in 10 years from 1983-1993.

I'm waiting for China's currency to do that.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:07 PM (IuIym)

244 I guess Amber Heard just had twins.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

245 240
Another reason why China was desperate for a trade deal, and Trump knew it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:06 PM (iFTx/)

======

Export economies need to export to their largest exporter to keep people fed.

Import economies that grow 90% of their own food don't need to import things nearly as much.

It's weird how it took some brash, uncouth billionaire from New York to figure that out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

246 I guess Amber Heard just had twins.
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

She gave two shits?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (Zz0t1)

247 Smoot Hawley....is that like Dwile Flonking? (See YouTube "Dwile Flonking British Pathe 1967" and "The Strange World of Dwile Flonking" from the Lewes Arms Pub in Lewes, Sussex (hometown of patriot Thomas Paine).

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (LKMDZ)

248 241 From a few reports I've seen, many producers have already started leaving China and moving toward Vietnam or India (or a few other places).

Lots of videos of silent ports and shut down factories, with no orders. Their domestic spending also seems to have collapsed. Aldi's in China was doing well though .. one show saying they could supply cheaper prices because China stores had more ? regulation .. and graft I suppose.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2025 02:06 PM (Cus5s)

======

Decoupling started years ago.

There have been holdouts, for sure, but a lot of manufacturing has been moving away from China for a while for a variety of reasons.

China is SIGNIFICANTLY weaker to fight this than they were a decade ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (GBKbO)

249 Bill Maher Says Democrats Went From “Men Can Have Babies” to “We Like the Terrorists”

And you support them. F*ck off.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Concise. Pithy even.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (L/fGl)

250 Not that simple. The leftover women are in their late 20s and early 30s. They are shunned by the vast majority of Chinese men who are interested only in younger women, despite there being a shortage of available women. There's a good case to be made that the men are being too picky, not the women.

The leftover women ended up that way because of high standards for husbands, pushed by societal and social media expectations. Husbands must earn X amount, have a home and car, etc. There are only a handful of men that meet those standards, and many other men have given up "lying flat and 'let it rot' movements", so many women will get to their 30s single. And, of course, theyre going to want an older, successful man.

But why would a single 35 year old guy with lots of money and status who wants to settle down and start a family pick the 32 year old woman over the 25 year old one, if he has the choice?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (JCZqz)

251 Suggested names:

Elephant and Haveyoo

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:09 PM (r97SN)

252 224 All I want is for my grandchildren to grow up in the same America I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (u73oe)

Get used to disappointment. -- Dread Pirate Roberts/Westley

Posted by: I'd like it too. Probably ain't happening. at May 12, 2025 02:09 PM (TbWk/)

253 America has been largely ignoring the issue, complaining about a dip in stock market returns (which has completely been erased, even before today), and mostly focusing on illegal immigration.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=======
Predicting anything in the world has become a chancy thing as we see from news coverage about 10 percent of what is actually going on in other places. And half of that news coverage is probably false.

Toward the end of my empirical research, I started learning Bayesian theory. The problem with it is you have to know a damn lot about the issue in the first place aka Bayesian prior in order to produce meaningful results. Foreign policy, forget it.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

254 246 I guess Amber Heard just had twins.
Posted by: Bulg

So, someone ignored Rule number 1 AFTER seeing what happened to Johnny Depp?!??!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:10 PM (JCZqz)

255 As the US and USSR found out, you simply cannot buy love in the long term abroad however much money you spend.

Posted by: whig

Me rove you rong time GI!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:10 PM (4dDXL)

256
Churches have no business in sponsoring refugees in the first place unless they want to assume financial and criminal liability for them so they are not a burden on taxpayers.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:07 PM (ctrM5)

________

Not... a burden... to taxpayers...

Are you saying we should return to the standard the US had in 1900?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (bc6Ft)

257 BREAKING: The Episcopal Church has announced it will end its decades-old partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by the Trump admin.
Posted by: Ian S.

Wait. I thought they were Episco-pale-ians.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (L/fGl)

258 Drumpffffffff!!!!!

He's ruining everything....

Posted by: Illiberal liberals at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (ICV+s)

259 But why would a single 35 year old guy with lots of money and status who wants to settle down and start a family pick the 32 year old woman over the 25 year old one, if he has the choice?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (JCZqz)

Can’t speak for the Chinese 35 year old. But personally I wouldn’t want a wife that much younger than me.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (e4LaW)

260 Slightly salty because the US is for once putting our interests above other countries' and he lives in one of those other countries. I hope he'll be back, we love him despite his location.
Posted by: pookysgirl, putting up the Maple Leaf signal at May 12, 2025 01:46 PM (Wt5PA)

I wasn't aware of any kind of flounce on his part? Just sent him an e-mail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (6RxEw)

261 "it is hard to say, without knowing"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (D7oie)

262 Anyway, another narrative of the leftie propaganda falls.

The same pattern:
Only the most drastic solution will work and we can't try that now because it's too radical and besides it'll be 10 years before it works so we need to just keep doing what we've been doing.

Yet, Trump--by merely trying--is driving dramatic results.
Which the left and their propagandists demanded we believe was impossible.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 12, 2025 02:02 PM (sYVcz)

Now I feel old. I remember the stalling over ANWR and everyone realizing a decade later that it would have been a good idea given the gas prices they were experiencing. I could have sworn Michael Ramirez did a cartoon illustrating the principle, but that would take probably an hour to find.

Posted by: pookysgirl, DRILL BABY DRILL! at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (Wt5PA)

263 "it is hard to say, without knowing"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (D7oie)

Without knowing.

That wasn't so hard.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

264 But Trump is a fascist Nazi, right? So, obviously this is all designed to put us in slave labor camps and deprive us of our precious democracy! Reeeee....

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (XMwZJ)

265 It’s been too long, but I seem to recall Maher’s point was that the 9/11 terrorists were more brave than the US military and/or Bush and his team.

We could all agree that it takes a kind of conviction most of us don’t have to carry out the 9/11 attacks.
Saying they have conviction while also putting down your countrymen was an intentionally provocative dick move.
Maher got the response he wanted. I don’t consider him all that brave for saying that.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (Hkcdp)

266 All I want is for my grandchildren to grow up in the same America I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

That time is dead and gone.
Trust me. I wish mine could too.
In order for that to happen, it'd take eliminating a LOT of people from society.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (4dDXL)

267 China is SIGNIFICANTLY weaker to fight this than they were a decade ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=======
Part of that is Xi shat upon all these foreign corporations that thought China would be a gold mine of consumers.

Instead, the Chinese stole their IP, cloned manufacturing techniques, and started selling their products under home grown labels that competed with the expensive brands.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:13 PM (ctrM5)

268 It's hilarious to have seen the commie-Proggies shriek "Trump destrooooooyed the economy"...even after a week the all-important godlike Dow Jones average was going back up...like it always does. Or that Rand Paul wanted to have Congress pass bills on tariffs and not the President. Congress better have the Big Beautiful Tax cut bill READY TO GO without any "a "moderate GOP member has decided to not vote for the bill as it is NOT 100% Perfect!"

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at May 12, 2025 02:13 PM (LKMDZ)

269 Smoot Hawley's best song was Take This Job and Shove It.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:13 PM (L/fGl)

270 Not that simple. The leftover women are in their late 20s and early 30s. They are shunned by the vast majority of Chinese men who are interested only in younger women, despite there being a shortage of available women. There's a good case to be made that the men are being too picky, not the women.

The leftover women ended up that way because of high standards for husbands, pushed by societal and social media expectations. Husbands must earn X amount, have a home and car, etc.

But why would a single 35 year old guy with lots of money and status who wants to settle down and start a family pick the 32 year old woman over the 25 year old one, if he has the choice?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (JCZqz)
_________

It's not just "35 year old guys with lots of money and status." It's everyone, cutting across all socio-economic statuses. If it was just a few rich guys, and a few gold-diggers, the country wouldn't be in the catastrophic trouble it is. If anything, it's the lower classes -- both men and women -- who are probably most left out. The rich and connected will always find a way.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:14 PM (iFTx/)

271 BREAKING: The Episcopal Church has announced it will end its decades-old partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by the Trump admin.

Oh no! Whatever they do, I hope the Catholics and other churches don't also stop supporting illegal migrants into the country! And I hope those NGOs helping LGBGQIA2S+ families adopt kids don't stop their important contributions, either!

Posted by: Br'er Trump at May 12, 2025 02:14 PM (JCZqz)

272 I guess Amber Heard just had twins.
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Had twins? Is this a euphemism for two identically shaped extrusions from the digestive system left in the bed of some dim Hollywood guy??

Posted by: I just am not sure to be honest at May 12, 2025 02:14 PM (ICV+s)

273 228 BREAKING: The Episcopal Church has announced it will end its decades-old partnership with the government to resettle refugees, citing moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners from South Africa who have been classified as refugees by the Trump admin.
Posted by: Ian S.

Hmmm... can't resettle anymore because they are WHITE?

OK then... Racist much?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2025 02:14 PM (QAkQ3)

274 Part of that is Xi shat upon all these foreign corporations that thought China would be a gold mine of consumers.

Instead, the Chinese stole their IP, cloned manufacturing techniques, and started selling their products under home grown labels that competed with the expensive brands.
Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:13 PM (ctrM5)

Wait a minute - you mean the Chinese did what the Chinese have always done, and that a blind man could have seen coming from a mile away? They did that???

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2025 02:15 PM (uWKK8)

275 265 It’s been too long, but I seem to recall Maher’s point was that the 9/11 terrorists were more brave than the US military and/or Bush and his team.

-

Yeah he basically said the US was just sending missiles from a safe distance away with no consequences (pre 9/11). The terrorists acted in person.

Was it a dumb point? Yeah kinda. Did it mean Maher loved the terrorists? Of course not. When you’re on TV every day you’re bound to say stupid shit. He was one of the OG people subjected to cancel culture.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 02:15 PM (e4LaW)

276 I wasn't aware of any kind of flounce on his part? Just sent him an e-mail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (6RxEw)

I did not see a flounce, just noticed his attitude took a dive when Trump slapped tariffs on Canada and it impacted their election. Was hoping he'd stick around. :S

Posted by: pookysgirl worries about all of you, yes even you at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (Wt5PA)

277 235 I don’t want China bankrupt. I want China as the maker of cheap junk that we can do with or without. Like Japan during the Occupation. That will give them _some_ place in the world. Let the true China, Nationalist China, make the latest in chips and high tech. I’m fine with that. Let the mainland WANT to be West Taiwan. Well, I can dream.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 12, 2025 02:05 PM (/HoPU)

The US needs a nemesis. CCP serves as quite the sufficient one. We do best when we're focused on a rival; when we have none, we get lazy and unfocused.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (1Zc3u)

278 Had twins? Is this a euphemism for two identically shaped extrusions from the digestive system left in the bed of some dim Hollywood guy??

Posted by: I just am not sure to be honest at May 12, 2025 02:14 PM (ICV+s)

A more elegant way to put my #246 comment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)

279
Won't it be funny when it's found that all these church charities that helped move migrants were complicit in sex trafficking, drugs and extortion?

*giggles*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (bc6Ft)

280 moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners

Throw them to the wolves.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (rxm2j)

281 272 I guess Amber Heard just had twins.
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Had twins? Is this a euphemism for two identically shaped extrusions from the digestive system left in the bed of some dim Hollywood guy??
Posted by: I just am not sure to be honest

Uh....it was the dog. Again! He, uh, got into the pantry and ate WAY too much, and took a pair of wicked shits all over your side of the bed!

Posted by: Amber Heard at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (JCZqz)

282 279
Won't it be funny when it's found that all these church charities that helped move migrants were complicit in sex trafficking, drugs and extortion?

*giggles*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2025 02:16 PM (bc6Ft)

=======

I want Trump's first meeting with Pope Leo to include Trump giving him information about Catholic Charities' complicity in sex trafficking and asking Leo if he wants to be an ally in his fight or an enemy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

283 280 moral opposition to resettling white Afrikaners

Throw them to the wolves.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats

Is it because the Left hates African Immigrants, or African Americans? I'm not sure which snark angle to take on this one...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (JCZqz)

284 China has been doing to us what the British Empire did to China: the British smuggled opium into China to addle the population, China is smuggling fentanyl in to the US to do the sane or worse to us. We, as foreign barbarians, are a proxy for the British who humiliated Imperial China. They want revenge, and acknowledgment that they are the Middle Kingdom, the center of the world.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (/HoPU)

285 Are you saying we should return to the standard the US had in 1900?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

That is actually in immigration law dating from the 50's. Sponsoring someone for immigration requires that you sign a contract agreeing to liability if that person goes onto public assistance (IIRC within 5 years or so) after immigrating.

That used to be enforced btw until we suddenly decided to open the borders to everyone.

I despise each and every one of those 'charities' whether religious or secular in nature. All they became is a facilitator for illegals and endless waves of pseudo refugees. Ignoring, by the way, the requirement that refugees go to the nearest country for refuge and also the requirement return to their home one after the danger is over.

Just like TPS has become a one way roach motel entry in the US for permanently residing here.

Posted by: whig at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (ctrM5)

286
I don’t want China bankrupt. I want China as the maker of cheap junk that we can do with or without.

__________

*goes "zoom" with plastic toy airplane*
*propeller falls off*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (bc6Ft)

287 We could all agree that it takes a kind of conviction most of us don’t have to carry out the 9/11 attacks.
Saying they have conviction while also putting down your countrymen was an intentionally provocative dick move.
Maher got the response he wanted. I don’t consider him all that brave for saying that.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (Hkcd)

By that definition, any mass killer who stands up and shoots a dozen people on the street is "brave". Insanity and fanaticism are not the same thing as bravery, most Americans used to recognize that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (uWKK8)

288 Won't it be funny when it's found that all these church charities that helped move migrants were complicit in sex trafficking, drugs and extortion?

*giggles*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Like gambling at Rick's, they had no knowledge!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (4dDXL)

289 Side-hustle possibility for Doof!

PART TIME PICKLEBALL PRO
USTA Mid-Atlantic Foundation
Leesburg, VA

Apply

$40 - $50 / hr

Part-time

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

290 283 Is it because the Left hates African Immigrants, or African Americans? I'm not sure which snark angle to take on this one...
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (JCZqz)

======

They hate white people.
They see Trump accepting white asylum seekers as a potential wedge issue.
They have no principles anyway.
They think all Afrikaners are like the diplomat from Lethal Weapon 2.
They think they can raise $100,000 by putting it in a fundraising email.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

291 Off zombie old lady sock

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 12, 2025 02:19 PM (W2Pud)

292 Records are made to be broken.

Champion Eater Joey Chestnut Sets New Record in 2025 Ultimate Bologna Showdown

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:19 PM (L/fGl)

293 I did not see a flounce, just noticed his attitude took a dive when Trump slapped tariffs on Canada and it impacted their election.

That's debatable. Pierre also had his entire personality based on opposing Trudeau and he was obviously flailing when Trudeau went away.

The more conspiracy minded have pointed out that Canada and Australia's election polling went in an almost perfectly identical trajectory at the same time, even though Trump was saying nothing to or about Australia. Almost as if polls were being greased to cover up a steal.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (2ocoG)

294 They think all Afrikaners are like the diplomat from Lethal Weapon 2.

DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

295 Maher wanted offense and he got it.
It’s what he and many comedians and politicians do. Sometimes it bites you in the azz, just ask Kathy Griffin. I don’t have mushrooms feelings for them either way, just a known consequence for them.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (Hkcdp)

296 294 They think all Afrikaners are like the diplomat from Lethal Weapon 2.

DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

======

His assistant, though...

The South African accent on a woman...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

297 Hmmm... can't resettle anymore because they are WHITE?

OK then... Racist much?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2025 02:14 PM (QAkQ3)

These are people who's greatest moment of civil rights activism was boycotting Sun City and remembering when Nelson Mandela died in jail.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 02:21 PM (D7oie)

298
His assistant, though...

The South African accent on a woman...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

You'll get no argument from me, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

299 "Decoupling started years ago."

True, but it greatly accelerated under Trump 2.0. I think China ports were still always busy until recently. Plus US frontloaded inventory ahead of tariffs, so they have a sag now. The People are starting to protest.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2025 02:22 PM (Cus5s)

300 The South African accent on a woman...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Ugh. I hate South-African accents. Worse than Jersey accents.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:22 PM (77rzZ)

301 is that like Dwile Flonking? (See YouTube "Dwile Flonking British Pathe 1967" and "The Strange World of Dwile Flonking" from the Lewes Arms Pub in Lewes, Sussex (hometown of patriot Thomas Paine).
Posted by: Donovan Nuera at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (LKMDZ)

have actually done this.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 12, 2025 02:22 PM (6RxEw)

302 The South African accent on a woman...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

You'll get no argument from me, sir.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

Keeping the "F" in Effrican.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:22 PM (VoAdT)

303 Exactly, Tom Servo. He likened terrorists to our military for a little shock. It backfired. Sucked for him. Whatever.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2025 02:22 PM (Hkcdp)

304 By Jove, I think he's got it!

"What I think happened last election is younger men -- they would rather vote for somebody who they don’t completely agree with, they don’t feel judged by, than somebody who they do agree with, that they feel like they have to walk on eggshells around constantly… Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun."
-- David Hogg

https://is.gd/YDB6Zm

When he's right, he's right. Either that, or he's compensating.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM (s8j++)

305 His assistant, though...

The South African accent on a woman...

Patsy Kensit, I think was the actress? 10/10.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM (2ocoG)

306 South African accents sound to me like a German who's lived for a long time in New Zealand.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM (VoAdT)

307
The South African accent on a woman...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

__________

People ask where Her Majesty's New Zealand accent is from. I say, "The Deep South."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 12, 2025 02:24 PM (bc6Ft)

308 Patsy Kensit, I think was the actress? 10/10.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM (2ocoG)

————

Not much of a swimmer though.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2025 02:24 PM (u73oe)

309 Just for a cost example, I sell laser cut steel umbrella stands.

I took my design to be quoted by an American factory next door to my office. Literally one block away.

They quoted me $60 / pc.

We import from China for $15 and retail for $45.

$60 is above retail.

I'd have to charge $120 retail.

So with the tariffs I found a Vietnamese factory that does it for $12

BTW, this is what is funny - the two factories in Vietnam and USA? They both use the exact same brand of machinery and are basically copies of each other.

Amada Japan and Amada USA machines.

The American factory is way overstaffed. It has an "Accounting department" with multiple comfy offices.

The Vietnamese guy? His wife in the corner of the factory.

Probably on his farmland, too. No rent.

Also funny, the workers in California? They are all older Vietnamese or Hmong people.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:24 PM (IuIym)

310 Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun."
-- David Hogg

Shows how out of touch that f*ck is. Young people want to play video games and stream shit online. They have no interest in getting laid.

I mean, watch TV commercials. "I love my HIMS prescriptions for my ED." ---32 year old male

The youth is wasted mightily on today's youth.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

311 But why would a single 35 year old guy with lots of money and status who wants to settle down and start a family pick the 32 year old woman over the 25 year old one, if he has the choice?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:08 PM (JCZqz)

If she would put some time and effort into developing certain, "skills", I could see it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2025 02:25 PM (uWKK8)

312 Can’t speak for the Chinese 35 year old. But personally I wouldn’t want a wife that much younger than me.
==
Eh. I think it would get awkward at a decade plus. Generational differences, sex maybe. I was still pretty frisky in my 50s but 60+, it's not the same. I could see the 55 year old Mrs getting bored with the 65+ year old Mr. I think 3 or 4 years seems ok. I suppose she could get bored with you sooner. I was still pretty much an amusement park ride until I got to 59 - 60. Now the ride only runs once a night, when it runs.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 12, 2025 02:25 PM (ICV+s)

313 With a replacement birthrate below 1 (very likely), the nation will be roughly a quarter of its size in a couple of generations.

Decouple from China, then ignore them.

They're imploding

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 01:48 PM
==
They were between 1.3 and 1.4 billion early in this century. They will be 600-650 million by 2050. There is no way to stop the swirling drain absent a collapse of the CCP. More likely, central China will coalesce into China, and the big coastal cities will become city-states.

China as we knew it is already over. It's why Xi came to the table. He had no choice. He wants to at least die in power.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2025 02:26 PM (GZYu7)

314 When he's right, he's right. Either that, or he's compensating.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM (s8j++)

He is the DNC's answer to Andrew Tate

Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 02:26 PM (D7oie)

315 Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM (s8j++)

I think he's compemsating.

This resonates with young men?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 12, 2025 02:26 PM (kjWDa)

316 Also, no VP of development, no sales guys, no social media team, etc,

You just talk to the boss man.

In America the boss man couldn't be bothered to meet a potential customer.

I assume they sell to government and maybe very large utilities who need urgent products.

That's okay.

Vietnam also had very large organized factories too with tons of staff and meeting rooms and presidents, and I can't place orders to them either.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:27 PM (IuIym)

317 CNN is upset that prices aren't rising like they predicted.

https://shorturl.at/fEH0X

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:27 PM (L/fGl)

318 I'm selling "decor" shit for homes. Its not missile parts.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:27 PM (IuIym)

319 The South African accent on a woman...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Ugh. I hate South-African accents. Worse than Jersey accents.
Posted by: Bulg

The physician I used to go to was from South Africa. She had a charming accent and was a nice looking woman, too. Just her practice is now too far away from where I live. About 45 minutes each way.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:28 PM (vcOmj)

320 I mean, watch TV commercials. "I love my HIMS prescriptions for my ED." ---32 year old male

The youth is wasted mightily on today's youth.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

Don't blame them too much. We got to see glamorous celebrities on TV we could fantasize about, and then go off trying to live our own fantasies. They see a 32 year old twink on a youtube ad bitching about how his dick don't work and he's got the Hivv, and think "no thanks".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:28 PM (VoAdT)

321 Wasn't it just last week (Wed?) that some congresscritter was grilling Bessent (with the help of some dude whispering in her ear) about tariffs and "significant" trade talks with nations, including China? Trying to get a gotcha moment over just beginning talks, yet a few days later we have this?

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at May 12, 2025 02:28 PM (lg881)

322 I mean, watch TV commercials. "I love my HIMS prescriptions for my ED." ---32 year old male

The youth is wasted mightily on today's youth.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
---------------

Aren't there some medical studies which point to an alarming lack of testosterone in younger men? I mean, we're talking less testosterone than an older man such as myself?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 02:28 PM (tT6L1)

323 318 I'm selling "decor" shit for homes. Its not missile parts.
Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:27 PM (IuIym)

not with that attitude they aren't.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:28 PM (VoAdT)

324 313 They were between 1.3 and 1.4 billion early in this century. They will be 600-650 million by 2050. There is no way to stop the swirling drain absent a collapse of the CCP. More likely, central China will coalesce into China, and the big coastal cities will become city-states.

China as we knew it is already over. It's why Xi came to the table. He had no choice. He wants to at least die in power.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2025 02:26 PM (GZYu7)

=======

Why even believe the number of their population?

It's probably lower than even that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

325 David Hogg is talking about getting laid?

Are things between him and Greta looking up?

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (77rzZ)

326 The Wheels on the Dow go Round and Round
Round and Round Round and Round....

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (PCK5/)

327 Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun."
-- David Hogg

Shows how out of touch that f*ck is. Young people want to play video games and stream shit online. They have no interest in getting laid.

I mean, watch TV commercials. "I love my HIMS prescriptions for my ED." ---32 year old male

The youth is wasted mightily on today's youth.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)
______

I'll bet 30% of sales of ED drugs are to younger guys who don't need it (or shouldn't need it). The club kids gobble them up. Party drugs make your dick limp. ED drugs shock them back up.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)

328 Pfizer, yeah you.
Give me your wallet.
Be a good chap about it.
Cherriee O.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (1k16i)

329 "it is hard to say, without knowing"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 12, 2025 02:11 PM (D7oie)

Without knowing.

That wasn't so hard.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

Without plowing.

Crap.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (i24o9)

330 Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun."
-- David Hogg

Donk 2028 slogan: Let's Get Drunk and Screw!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (L/fGl)

331 They want revenge, and acknowledgment that they are the Middle Kingdom, the center of the world.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (/HoPU)

Is that what Middle Kingdom means? I've never heard it adequately explained.

Posted by: pookysgirl, always thristing foe knowledge at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (Wt5PA)

332 David Hogg is talking about getting laid?

Are things between him and Greta looking up?
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (77rzZ)
_________

"What about me?"

-- Harry Sisson

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:31 PM (iFTx/)

333 325 David Hogg is talking about getting laid?

Are things between him and Greta looking up?
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (77rzZ)

greta is nominally female, so doubtful...

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2025 02:31 PM (PCK5/)

334 It's amazing how young Hogg is to begin his "hello fellow youths" phase.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:31 PM (VoAdT)

335 Young people should be able to focus on what young people should be focused on, which is how to get laid and how to go and have fun."
-- David Hogg

Donk 2028 slogan: Let's Get Drunk and Screw!

It's better than "brat".

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:31 PM (s8j++)

336 They want revenge, and acknowledgment that they are the Middle Kingdom, the center of the world.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 12, 2025 02:18 PM (/HoPU)

Is that what Middle Kingdom means? I've never heard it adequately explained.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Yes, that's what it means. Because it's in the "middle" ("center") of the world.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:31 PM (77rzZ)

337 "it is hard to say, without knowing"
Posted by: Kindltot

I've never had a problem.

Posted by: AOC at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (L/fGl)

338 Donk 2028 slogan: Let's Get Drunk and Screw!

It's better than "brat".

How about "Fat, drunk, and stupid"?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (s8j++)

339 I'll bet 30% of sales of ED drugs are to younger guys who don't need it (or shouldn't need it). The club kids gobble them up. Party drugs make your dick limp. ED drugs shock them back up.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)

And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.

Posted by: pookysgirl once had to listen to some drink Airmen rant about it at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (Wt5PA)

340 But why would a single 35 year old guy with lots of money and status who wants to settle down and start a family pick the 32 year old woman over the 25 year old one, if he has the choice?
=
Well in my case she was really nice looking, smart, funny and had a good job. We clicked right away. I enjoyed talking to her. We had a lot in common. TBF she had a banging body, for a girl in her mid 30s...

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (ICV+s)

341 " Why dooon't we get drunk, aaand screw???
Classic Country...

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (PCK5/)

342 South African accents sound to me like a German who's lived for a long time in New Zealand.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:23 PM

It does, doesn't it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (FAGAJ)

343 Was it a dumb point? Yeah kinda. Did it mean Maher loved the terrorists? Of course not. When you’re on TV every day you’re bound to say stupid shit. He was one of the OG people subjected to cancel culture.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 12, 2025 02:15 PM (e4LaW)

The Left has always idolized terrorists. It's nothing new and Maher whatever point he was making was part of it.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (M/gGe)

344 Is that what Middle Kingdom means? I've never heard it adequately explained.
Posted by: pookysgirl, always thristing foe knowledge at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (Wt5PA)

I've heard it several ways, too. "We are the center of the universe". "We are in between the Jurchen and the Hmong (or whoever)". "We are in between those Chineses and those other Chineses".

They're probably all true.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (VoAdT)

345 They were between 1.3 and 1.4 billion early in this century. They will be 600-650 million by 2050. There is no way to stop the swirling drain absent a collapse of the CCP. More likely, central China will coalesce into China, and the big coastal cities will become city-states.

China as we knew it is already over. It's why Xi came to the table. He had no choice. He wants to at least die in power.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2025 02:26 PM (GZYu7)

=======

Why even believe the number of their population?

It's probably lower than even that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)
______

I've always wondered how it's possible to estimate the populations of countries like China and India. Both are huge countries with massive territories of backwards, third-world citizens mostly isolated from the rest of the country. How do they count these people?

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (iFTx/)

346 Don't blame them too much. We got to see glamorous celebrities on TV we could fantasize about, and then go off trying to live our own fantasies. They see a 32 year old twink on a youtube ad bitching about how his dick don't work and he's got the Hivv, and think "no thanks".

More importantly, we got supermodels. They get Rachel Zegler.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (2ocoG)

347 Middle Earth>>>> Middle Kingdom

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM (PCK5/)

348 And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl

I know this from personal experience.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM (77rzZ)

349 David Hogg is talking about getting laid?

His hentai JoJo dakimakura just arrived in the mail.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM (JCZqz)

350 Don't blame them too much. We got to see glamorous celebrities on TV we could fantasize about, and then go off trying to live our own fantasies. They see a 32 year old twink on a youtube ad bitching about how his dick don't work and he's got the Hivv, and think "no thanks".

More importantly, we got supermodels. They get Rachel Zegler.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:33 PM (2ocoG)
__________

"Tell me about it!"

-- Seven Dwarfs

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM (iFTx/)

351 BTW, this is what is funny - the two factories in Vietnam and USA? They both use the exact same brand of machinery and are basically copies of each other.

Amada Japan and Amada USA machines.

The American factory is way overstaffed. It has an "Accounting department" with multiple comfy offices.

Posted by: Harun

Now do Smith & Wesson vs. Taurus.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:35 PM (4dDXL)

352 They were between 1.3 and 1.4 billion early in this century. They will be 600-650 million by 2050. There is no way to stop the swirling drain absent a collapse of the CCP. More likely, central China will coalesce into China, and the big coastal cities will become city-states.

China as we knew it is already over. It's why Xi came to the table. He had no choice. He wants to at least die in power.
Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2025 02:26 PM (GZYu7)

China has had a repeating dynamic for most of the last two millenia; a very Strong Emperor unifies the country, kicks everybody's asses and establishes a dynasty. Then the dynasty falls apart as corruption and malfeasance takes over (sometimes slowly, sometimes quickly) Then the country splits up into factions run by warlords that prey upon each other and make life harsh for everyone. Then one becomes strong enough to make himself Emperor again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2025 02:35 PM (uWKK8)

353 224 All I want is for my grandchildren to grow up in the same America I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 12, 2025 02:03 PM (u73oe)
Our America will have to bring it back.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2025 02:35 PM (LHPAg)

354 His hentai JoJo dakimakura just arrived in the mail.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM

This is one of those things I don't want to Google, isn't it?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 12, 2025 02:35 PM (FAGAJ)

355 They want revenge, and acknowledgment that they are the Middle Kingdom, the center of the world.
===
They are between Heaven and the rest of the world. They think they are second to the gods, and everyone else on earth is beneath them.

Posted by: Jingoistic at May 12, 2025 02:35 PM (ICV+s)

356 For someone who acts as if he’s a sharp political commentator, Bill Maher sure does miss the obvious eventual path of progressive piliciand behavior, huh?

I saw a Maher clip a week or two ago where he was going on in depth about how stupid wokeness was. In the guest chair, looking like she was choking on a lemon, was Kara Swisher, representing woke "journalism". Her facial expressions were actually funnier than his alleged jokes.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 12, 2025 02:35 PM (2ocoG)

357 I'll bet 30% of sales of ED drugs are to younger guys who don't need it (or shouldn't need it). The club kids gobble them up. Party drugs make your dick limp. ED drugs shock them back up.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:30 PM (iFTx/)

And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl once had to listen to some drink Airmen rant about it at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (Wt5PA)
_______

True, but booze isn't big in the clubs. Everyone is high, not really drunk.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

358 David Hogg is talking about getting laid?

Are things between him and Greta looking up?
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (77rzZ)

greta is nominally female, so doubtful...
Posted by: tubal

THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Yeah, their children. Scary stuff, kids.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM (vcOmj)

359 And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl once had to listen to some drink Airmen rant about it at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (Wt5PA)

The kids don't drink alcohol like they used to, at least not at bars.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM (lg881)

360 348 And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl

I know this from personal experience.
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM (77rzZ

Heh. The Spirit is willing, but the Flesh is downright comical...

Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM (PCK5/)

361 THINK OF THE CHILDREN! Yeah, their children. Scary stuff, kids.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM (vcOmj)

The first recorded baby to inherit fetal alcohol syndrome.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:37 PM (VoAdT)

362 Again how is it "braver" to ambush trapped unarmed civilians with numbers and knives than it is to "lob missiles"?

I must have missed that day in English and/or logic class. I don't care if he was being provocative. So are his friends the retards on the Left. Or does he think they actually mean it while he gets to clown nose? Where I have I seen that routine before?

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 02:38 PM (M/gGe)

363 Now do Smith & Wesson vs. Taurus.
Posted by: rickb223

My limited experience with Taurus handguns over the years kind of argues against them. But, agreed, that Smith and Wesson is WAY over-priced, just like Colt.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:38 PM (vcOmj)

364 Aren't there some medical studies which point to an alarming lack of testosterone in younger men? I mean, we're talking less testosterone than an older man such as myself?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 12, 2025 02:28 PM (tT6L1)

RFK Jr. said that today's late 20's male has less T than a 65 year old man or some such.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

365
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 12, 2025 01:42 PM

-----

Reminder -- the commenters at DU are old.

Old.

Old-timey leftists from the 1970s, who haven't learned a thing in 50 years.

They should sell tickets and call it a wax museum.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 12, 2025 02:39 PM (uz6ub)

366 And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl

Can confirm.

It's also the name of a bar somewhere in Columbus, Ohio.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

367 I think the decline in testosterone is partly responsible for the observed decline in intelligence throughout the western world.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2025 02:40 PM (M/gGe)

368 Some ABC reporter at the press conference today was going after Trump for the airplane gift from Qatar. So predictable. Their entire purpose is to find something to hang on him while ignoring every accomplishment. It's psychotic. They're not journalists, they're a combination of fanatic propagandists and clownish character assassins.

Posted by: Ordinary American at May 12, 2025 02:40 PM (vsTPo)

369 Reminder -- the commenters at DU are old.

Old.

Old-timey leftists from the 1970s, who haven't learned a thing in 50 years.

They should sell tickets and call it a wax museum.

I'm not sure the denizens of this here site are the ones to mock them for that.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:40 PM (s8j++)

370 Why even believe the number of their population?

It's probably lower than even that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO).

I've watched a couple of videos from former chicoms. They say that the actual number of Chinese is between 400 - 700 million. Don't know if that is true but the Chinese lie about everything. I never believed in the 1.3 billion number.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 12, 2025 02:41 PM (dLmtu)

371 David Hogg is talking about getting laid?

-
Well, I could talk about running a marathon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, For a Limited Time Only at May 12, 2025 02:41 PM (L/fGl)

372 RFK Jr. said that today's late 20's male has less T than a 65 year old man or some such.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

My sons are 28 and 30 (soon to be 31) and I am SURE they have a lot more Testosterone than I do, and I am pushing 70.

That must be RFK Jr. talking about HIS testosterone levels.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:41 PM (vcOmj)

373 Why even believe the number of their population?

It's probably lower than even that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 12, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)
==
I wouldn't bet against the under.

Posted by: Black JEM at May 12, 2025 02:42 PM (GZYu7)

374 A great start, but unless real reforms are made to how China evades E-commerce tax accountability & trade-laws, as well as streamlining and enforcing customs–IRS data linking and closing offshore payment laundries, the US economy will continue to be hollowed out. China is unethical in all things, at every opportunity, and if you don't close ALL loopholes, they will continue to game the system to our disadvantage. Here's a great white paper on exactly how they do it and how to stop it: http://digitaltrojanhorse.com/article/

Posted by: UnderCoverinLA at May 12, 2025 02:42 PM (MKePZ)

375 I'm not sure the denizens of this here site are the ones to mock them for that.
Posted by: Archimedes

Fine, I didn't want to be on your stupid lawn, anyway.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:42 PM (77rzZ)

376 Isn’t Bush an Episcopalian? Open borders, gay pastors,and government grift Episcopalian?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 12, 2025 02:42 PM (p6xbI)

377 359 And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl once had to listen to some drink Airmen rant about it at May 12, 2025 02:32 PM (Wt5PA)

The kids don't drink alcohol like they used to, at least not at bars.
Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM (lg881)

When younger ones ask "why can't we buy alcohol at age 18?" I reply "because of the way things went when I and my cohort were 18 and it was legal."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2025 02:43 PM (uWKK8)

378 My limited experience with Taurus handguns over the years kind of argues against them. But, agreed, that Smith and Wesson is WAY over-priced, just like Colt.
Posted by: A face in the crowd

Taurus used to be Brazilian on old S&W machines. That's why a lot of their guns looked soooo similar.

"By 1968, Taurus was exporting its revolvers to the U.S. market. In 1971, Bangor Punta Corporation, Smith & Wesson’s then-parent company, purchased majority ownership of Forjas Taurus that led to the two firearm manufacturers to shared designs and manufacturing technology. (Gun enthusiasts will remember several Taurus model revolvers that appear and function similarly to famed Smith & Wesson models.) In 1977, Forjas Taurus came under new ownership that divorced Taurus’ relationship with Smith & Wesson."

They have grown up lately. I have no issues with their Tracker (revolver) line.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:43 PM (4dDXL)

379 When younger ones ask "why can't we buy alcohol at age 18?" I reply "because of the way things went when I and my cohort were 18 and it was legal."
Posted by: Tom Servo

Fist bump!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:43 PM (4dDXL)

380 RFK Jr. said that today's late 20's male has less T than a 65 year old man or some such.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:38 PM (Zz0t1)

I have nothing but a hunch to base this on, but it might actually be neither genetic nor environmental, but actually social.

Children grow up with zero social stressors. Bullying is forbidden except from authority figures themselves. Everyone must succeed at all costs regardless of accomplishment or effort. Nobody has to go off to work in factory after school. Does coming of age with few to no stressors in life mean you develop with less expression of certain hormones? Are other hormones affected similarly, like cortisone?

I'd like to see cross tabs from any of these studies. Do kids growing up in shitty environments have this same drop in testosterone? Is it a global phenomenon, or only in the cushier parts of the world?

Feh, any study that does get put out is bound to be fake and ghey, so whatever I guess.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:44 PM (VoAdT)

381 It's also the name of a bar somewhere in Columbus, Ohio.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer

Whisky Dick's Roadhouse in Columbus is closed. I think Covid killed it. But there are a lot of other bar & grills around the US with that name

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:44 PM (vcOmj)

382 All I want is for my grandchildren to grow up in the same America I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Hula hoops and Howdy Doody.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, For a Limited Time Only at May 12, 2025 02:44 PM (L/fGl)

383 "Now do Smith & Wesson vs. Taurus."

I don't know firearms at all.

I think if I am buying aerospace parts I want a ton of quality assurance.

But I'm buying napkin holders.

Also...this is weird, but the USA factory had lots of machines down, not operating, and actual defective laser cuts on the floor...not cut fully.

I was a little puzzled by that. Maybe they were fixing stuff.

Posted by: Harun at May 12, 2025 02:45 PM (IuIym)

384 Sane -> same

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 12, 2025 02:45 PM (/HoPU)

385 My sons are 28 and 30 (soon to be 31) and I am SURE they have a lot more Testosterone than I do, and I am pushing 70.

That must be RFK Jr. talking about HIS testosterone levels.
Posted by: A face in the crowd

Do your sons ride an e scooter nut to butt with man buns?

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2025 02:45 PM (4dDXL)

386
Whisky Dick's Roadhouse in Columbus is closed. I think Covid killed it. But there are a lot of other bar & grills around the US with that name
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:44 PM (vcOmj)

Well, I did go to it YEARS ago, so I've not been aware it was a Covid Casualty.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at May 12, 2025 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)

387 Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:44 PM (VoAdT)

That's actually an interesting thought.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:45 PM (77rzZ)

388
369

I'm not sure the denizens of this here site are the ones to mock them for that.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 12, 2025 02:40 PM (s8j++)

-----

Fair point. I just want to illuminate that that place is not the new generation.

It's also worth noting, that the average person here has learned quite a bit in the last ten years, much of it alarming.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 12, 2025 02:46 PM (uz6ub)

389 Isn’t Bush an Episcopalian? Open borders, gay pastors,and government grift Episcopalian?
Posted by: Jen the original

I think that he and his wife were Methodists.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:46 PM (vcOmj)

390 I think that he and his wife were Methodists.
Posted by: A face in the crowd

I bet Laura makes a mean jello salad.

Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:47 PM (77rzZ)

391 From a few reports I've seen, many producers have already started leaving China and moving toward Vietnam or India (or a few other places).
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That's been happening for years. China labor costs have skyrocketed and the savings for many industries aren't enough to justify dealing with with the rampant corruption and IP theft. Alternatives like Vietnam and India aren't pure either, but are somewhat better and are now cheaper to boot.

Posted by: Bigsmith at May 12, 2025 02:49 PM (1Au9i)

392 Do your sons ride an e scooter nut to butt with man buns?
Posted by: rickb223

My younger son, 28, is 6'2" tall, has two sons of his own, and weighs about 200 lb. He lifts a lot with one of his pals. A lot of muscle. He has, besides his regular job, a part time gig as a furniture mover.
My older son doesn't lift as much, since he hurt his back (lifting), but about 5'8" tall and built like a V.
So no, they don't have man-buns, and don't ride scooters.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 12, 2025 02:50 PM (vcOmj)

393 All I want is for my grandchildren to grow up in the same America I did.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Hula hoops and Howdy Doody.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, For a Limited Time Only at May 12, 2025 02:44 PM (L/fGl)

Tube Tops and Trans Ams.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 02:51 PM (i24o9)

394 Tube Tops and Trans Ams.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at May 12, 2025 02:51 PM (i24o9)

Plain 5-to-a-pack T-shirts and the old family minivan that your older brother didn't take with him to college.

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Oh, good, i don't have grandkids.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 12, 2025 02:53 PM (VoAdT)

395 And booze. "Whiskey d!ck" is a thing.
Posted by: pookysgirl

I know this from personal experience.
Posted by: Bulg at May 12, 2025 02:34 PM (77rzZ

Heh. The Spirit is willing, but the Flesh is downright comical...
Posted by: tubal at May 12, 2025 02:36 PM

"It provokes the desire, but it takes away the performance."

- Stuff Shakespeare Knew

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 12, 2025 02:59 PM (FAGAJ)

396 We be herd thats Presdent obama is the one that forced China into thei deel.

We wants to Thanx Presdent Obama for is grate leedership.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at May 12, 2025 04:00 PM (h8Giw)

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