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THE MORNING RANT: As Tesla Sales Decline, Ford’s EV Sales…Fall Off a Cliff
Despite higher sales of internal combustion (ICE) and hybrid vehicles, Ford sold significantly fewer electric vehicles last month. Ford sold 4,859 fully electric vehicles in April, which is nearly 40% less than the 8,019 sold in April 2024.“Despite?” Is that the correct word to use here? It reminds me of the infamous Fox Butterfield stories from the NY Times, which had comically obtuse headlines along the lines of, “Despite record incarceration, crime rates are down.” Anyhow, “despite” people buying more gasoline powered (“ICE”
vehicles in April, Ford’s electric vehicle sales fell off a metaphorical cliff.
All three of Ford’s electric vehicles —the F-150 Lightning, Mustang Mach-E, and E-Transit —had double-digit sales declines last month. Ford sold 2,927 Mach-Es (-40%), 1,740 F-150 Lightnings (-17%), and just 192 E-Transit vans in April (-81%).Ford’s 4,859 EV sales amounted to just 2.3% of the company’s total sales in April. Yet CEO Jim Farley and nepot destructor Bill Ford remain committed to perpetuating the failed Model E-dsel efforts, despite multi-billion dollar EV losses continuing, with no end in sight. Aside from its existing – and underutilized - EV manufacturing plants, Ford built a massive new plant (“Blue Oval City”
near Memphis to assemble 500,000 electric pickup trucks per year. The plant was supposed to be open by now, but it has been mothballed until at least 2027. There is little prospect for it ever opening, as Ford’s April electric pickup sales annualize to less than 21,000 units per year, and the sales trajectory is downward from here.
Meanwhile, Ford’s Q1 2025 profit also plunged, as the ongoing EV losses continue to soak up a majority of the company’s ICE profits.
“Ford’s First-Quarter Profit Drops 64%; Suspends Outlook” [WSJ – 5.05.2025]Production halts and an unprofitable EV business nearly wiped out Ford Motor’s net profit in the first quarter, the company said Monday. Ford reported net income of $471 million, down from $1.3 billion a year earlier. Revenue fell to $40.7 billion, down from $42.8 billion in the first quarter of 2024.Ford would have made $1.3 billion in Q1 2025 had its disastrous EV division not racked up another $849 million loss, pulling quarterly profit down to $471 million. Ford has been losing about $5 billion per year on its EV operations, and there is no realistic possibility for this division to become profitable, especially with the Trump administration working to eliminate the EV tax rebates that have been part of Ford’s EV business plan. In February of this year, Ford was projecting that its EV business would lose another $5.5 billion in 2025. As noted in the headline of that Wall Street Journal story above, Ford is now having to suspend its previous 2025 outlook because things are getting worse. CEO Jim Farley actually had the audacity to start blaming Donald Trump for Ford’s woes: “Ford pulls guidance, warns it will take $1.5 billion hit from Trump's tariffs” [Reuters – 5/05/2025] This is the same Jim Farley who flushed away $9.8 billion from EV losses in 2023 and 2024 alone, and who is about to take another $5.5 billion hit (likely more) on EVs in 2025. I have never heard Farley criticize any of the globalist, eco-communists he and Bill Ford decided to obey when they set Ford off down the road of electric destruction, yet he’s whimpering about Trump. If/when Ford decides to staunch the EV bleeding and throw in the towel on its Model E-dsel, then I’ll be willing to listen to concerns about the (much smaller) impact of tariffs. Even Tesla’s sales woes aren’t steering any EV customers to Ford. Something that cannot go on forever will eventually stop. The longer it takes Ford to finally terminate its EV misadventure, the more likely it is that electric vehicles will bankrupt the company. Its Board of Directors has got to take action to stop the bleeding since Jim Farley and Bill Ford clearly won’t. If Ford’s Directors will not stop the EV bleeding, shareholders will have a legitimate reason to consider bringing a shareholder derivative lawsuit against Ford’s directors and executives for their fiduciary negligence. On whosever behalf Jim Farley and Bill Ford are working for, it is not Ford’s shareholders, employees, customers, or dealers. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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Splodey cars
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 09, 2025 11:01 AM (Cg/Hw)
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The media has gleefully been reporting any bad news about Musk’s electric car company, celebrating not only falling sales and financial repercussions, but also legitimizing vandalism against Tesla vehicles because of Musk’s politics.
Reporters are vermin. At least drug dealers are more honest.
Reporters are vermin. At least drug dealers are more honest.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 09, 2025 11:02 AM (RjOoY)
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I'm starting to get the impression that this Buck fella isn't the biggest fan of EVs.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 09, 2025 11:02 AM (2UnvF)
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The market as become saturated, hit its limit in the larger car market, and has a shaky future especially when it comes to government assistance.
Sure, spend billions more on it.
Sure, spend billions more on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (GBKbO)
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I think Ford is going to fall off a cliff, not just their EV's.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)
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The company I work for got rid of half of our charging stations and now only lets people charge for 30 minutes at a time.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (hVVER)
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Ford has always been woke as hell
It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories
He was massively antisemit
It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories
He was massively antisemit
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 09, 2025 11:04 AM (nGraA)
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We have marked spaces for "green" cars but I don't think they care anymore because I see SUVs and F250s parked there often. The "green" spaces don't bother me because we also have some really nice spots reserved for trucks and SUVs.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:05 AM (hVVER)
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I think Ford is going to fall off a cliff, not just their EV's.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)
Yup.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)
Yup.
Posted by: MAC V SOG at May 09, 2025 11:06 AM (P4Pk9)
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Ford is clearly gouging their ICE customers. The numbers are staring us in the face. Affirmative Action for cars I guess.
Posted by: Francis at May 09, 2025 11:06 AM (bbuBP)
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“See? We need to make MORE EVs!!!”
- auto industry (probably)
Ah, damn! Can’t blame free trade for this one.
- auto industry (probably)
Ah, damn! Can’t blame free trade for this one.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2025 11:06 AM (aTimx)
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What about Rivian? Are they taking share from Tesla...?
Posted by: bearski at May 09, 2025 11:07 AM (Bhsk7)
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6 The company I work for got rid of half of our charging stations and now only lets people charge for 30 minutes at a time.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (hVVER)
BINGO...it's all about the charging. Folks were willing to buy EVs b/c Musk had been investing in the best charging market across the nation. Now he's not, and his chargers are also at risk from vandals...so who wants to buy ANY EV then? Musk was the premier charging network guy...
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (hVVER)
BINGO...it's all about the charging. Folks were willing to buy EVs b/c Musk had been investing in the best charging market across the nation. Now he's not, and his chargers are also at risk from vandals...so who wants to buy ANY EV then? Musk was the premier charging network guy...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:07 AM (tOcjL)
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Teslas become verboten to the left, yet they won't compensate by shelling out big bucks for a lower quality EV. Sad.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:07 AM (Dv3i1)
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Ford EV sales fell of a $hitty painting.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:07 AM (Vnr18)
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Hey, being a non-profit is noble and wonderful.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (yvnLa)
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Tesla Model Y is best selling car. Not EV, best selling car. They just had a model refresh, so production had to be stopped for a few weeks. This is transitory.
Posted by: krennik at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (T0tPD)
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I saw my first Ford Lightning in the wild yesterday. I was behind it.
It has the ground clearance of a sedan.
It has the ground clearance of a sedan.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (yZCmg)
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It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories
He was massively antisemit
Posted by: Gonzotx
He was, but I think it was originally Arab Christians that he brought over. But then the Arab Muslims saw the prosperity their Christian neighbors were experiencing and decided to get in on it, too. I don't think it was Ford's idea to recruit Muslims just because he was antisemtic.
He was massively antisemit
Posted by: Gonzotx
He was, but I think it was originally Arab Christians that he brought over. But then the Arab Muslims saw the prosperity their Christian neighbors were experiencing and decided to get in on it, too. I don't think it was Ford's idea to recruit Muslims just because he was antisemtic.
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)
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Race War Update for today:
Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (73voq)
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I saw a Tesla with an "FJB edition" insignia on it.
I was really really hoping it wasn't aftermarket.
I was really really hoping it wasn't aftermarket.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (yvnLa)
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Aside from its existing – and underutilized - EV manufacturing plants, Ford built a massive new plant; “Blue Oval City” near Memphis to assemble 500,000 electric pickup trucks per year.
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Don't forget the sister EV complex near Glendale, KY. It is still being built with one of the two facilities actually churning out EV batteries under an existing contract... that's supposed to be fulfilled sometime soon.
Then, the complex is going to be re-tooled to manufacture the ICE F-150 trucks. The current assembly plant in Louisville is on property Ford has been leasing from, I think, UPS. Whereas they own the property in Glendale.
Massive outlay of monies from Ford when they can least afford it.
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Don't forget the sister EV complex near Glendale, KY. It is still being built with one of the two facilities actually churning out EV batteries under an existing contract... that's supposed to be fulfilled sometime soon.
Then, the complex is going to be re-tooled to manufacture the ICE F-150 trucks. The current assembly plant in Louisville is on property Ford has been leasing from, I think, UPS. Whereas they own the property in Glendale.
Massive outlay of monies from Ford when they can least afford it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)
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He was massively antisemit
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 09, 2025 11:04 AM (nGraA)
I've known about that for some time because of his crazy newsletters, but never dived into it. There's a lot to dislike about Henry Ford...
Posted by: Gonzotx at May 09, 2025 11:04 AM (nGraA)
I've known about that for some time because of his crazy newsletters, but never dived into it. There's a lot to dislike about Henry Ford...
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (hVVER)
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Ford built a massive new plant (“Blue Oval City” near Memphis) to assemble 500,000 electric pickup trucks per year.
________
500,000? WTF were they thinking?
________
500,000? WTF were they thinking?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (UBKzV)
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The article on Tesla would be more informative if it broke down how much Tesla sales are off domestically versus in China.
I strongly suspect most of the drop in sales comes from China.
I strongly suspect most of the drop in sales comes from China.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (IqKUv)
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O/T - late yesterday JackStraw said the Supreme Court allowed Trump to use the wartime enemy act to deport illegals. I could not find verification until this morning.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp34ylep987o
This was declared on Monday May 5th. I guess I missed it. Did y'all?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp34ylep987o
This was declared on Monday May 5th. I guess I missed it. Did y'all?
Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2025 11:10 AM (8uzBS)
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Why is she a FAFO?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:04 AM (2J/Lj)
I was addressing the senator who blocked Mr. Martin's nomination.
Posted by: mrp
I got that. But what makes her the FO to Tillis FA?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:04 AM (2J/Lj)
I was addressing the senator who blocked Mr. Martin's nomination.
Posted by: mrp
I got that. But what makes her the FO to Tillis FA?
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:10 AM (2J/Lj)
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My work covered the tesla charging stations with boxes and now they are just parking spaces. Had three two vehicle chargers for all of 2 teslas and all in prime parking real estate right by the front doors. So employee of the month and the Presidents spot was actually farther from the door than the EV stations that were always all but empty.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:10 AM (xcIvR)
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6 The company I work for got rid of half of our charging stations and now only lets people charge for 30 minutes at a time.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (hVVER)
Maybe they finally did the math and realized they were buying their employees 'gas'. Which is a decent deal for the employee. I wonder how the cost of a Tesla works out when your boss buys all your gas?
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:03 AM (hVVER)
Maybe they finally did the math and realized they were buying their employees 'gas'. Which is a decent deal for the employee. I wonder how the cost of a Tesla works out when your boss buys all your gas?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)
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500,000? WTF were they thinking?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (UBKzV)
That the government would force people to buy EVs.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (UBKzV)
That the government would force people to buy EVs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (bss/y)
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Henry Ford was just asking questions you guys.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (yvnLa)
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30 500,000? WTF were they thinking?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (UBKzV)
That the government would force people to buy EVs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (bss/y)
Bingo.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 09, 2025 11:09 AM (UBKzV)
That the government would force people to buy EVs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (bss/y)
Bingo.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (tOcjL)
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Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
Maybe some new white folks can cash in on this.
Maybe some new white folks can cash in on this.
Posted by: NR Pax at May 09, 2025 11:13 AM (RjOoY)
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Also that the government would buy them.
Why did Pfizer and the other gaggle of companies make so many extra doses of Vaxx? Because they figured the government would pay for it and the government figured they would force people to take it at gunpoint.
Why did Pfizer and the other gaggle of companies make so many extra doses of Vaxx? Because they figured the government would pay for it and the government figured they would force people to take it at gunpoint.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:13 AM (bss/y)
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That the government would force people to buy EVs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (bss/y)
Bingo.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (tOcjL)
And would shovel a bunch of cash at them to build a factory.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (bss/y)
Bingo.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:12 AM (tOcjL)
And would shovel a bunch of cash at them to build a factory.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:13 AM (yvnLa)
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Henry Ford should be in the book thresd.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:13 AM (Vnr18)
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Ford built a massive new plant (“Blue Oval City” near Memphis) to assemble 500,000 electric pickup trucks per year.
________
500,000? WTF were they thinking?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
I love when people make any kind of sales predictions. For anything.
1. How do you predict the unknown?
2. Is the prediction even realistic?
That's like on Gold Rush. Parker decides at the start of the season he wants to pull 10,000 ounces of gold out of the ground. Why stop at 10,000? Why not 25,000? You pulled to number out of uour ass, why not shoot for the stars?
________
500,000? WTF were they thinking?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
I love when people make any kind of sales predictions. For anything.
1. How do you predict the unknown?
2. Is the prediction even realistic?
That's like on Gold Rush. Parker decides at the start of the season he wants to pull 10,000 ounces of gold out of the ground. Why stop at 10,000? Why not 25,000? You pulled to number out of uour ass, why not shoot for the stars?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (y6oPX)
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Tesla Model Y is best selling car. Not EV, best selling car.
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Yep.
And in those very specific terms it's quite the impressive feat.
Except think of how many people you personally know who recently bought a car. Not a vehicle. Not an SUV or truck. A car. Sedan or coupe.
Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
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Yep.
And in those very specific terms it's quite the impressive feat.
Except think of how many people you personally know who recently bought a car. Not a vehicle. Not an SUV or truck. A car. Sedan or coupe.
Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (yZCmg)
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I thought Musk should have sold his majority interest 2 years ago when they went after him for his compensation package. As a guy who does have a pretty good view of the future he should have seen that EV sales wouldn't be sustainable without doubling or tripling our power grid which means a 100 more nuclear plants. He could have used that money to focus on his other businesses.
I once stayed at a Holiday Inn so I know what I'm talking about.
I once stayed at a Holiday Inn so I know what I'm talking about.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (VofaG)
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When you are holding an Israeli hammer, everything looks like an antisemitic nail.
I'm sure Ford, like every other major corporation imported third world shit-holers because they can be exploited to suppress American worker wages.
And I'm sure the Chamber of Commerce Right was all about it.
I'm sure Ford, like every other major corporation imported third world shit-holers because they can be exploited to suppress American worker wages.
And I'm sure the Chamber of Commerce Right was all about it.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (IqKUv)
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And would shovel a bunch of cash at them to build a factory.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:13 AM (yvnLa)
This too. It is a giant circle jerk of coercion and bribery.
Meanwhile, Toyota for the most part looked at all this shit and said 'lets make more hybrids.' And it seems to have been the way to go.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:13 AM (yvnLa)
This too. It is a giant circle jerk of coercion and bribery.
Meanwhile, Toyota for the most part looked at all this shit and said 'lets make more hybrids.' And it seems to have been the way to go.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:15 AM (bss/y)
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If Jim Farley holds on for just four more years,losing $20 billion more, maybe he'll ll have a Democrat president to rescue him.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 09, 2025 11:15 AM (DmCto)
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"militants"
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 11:15 AM (gt60b)
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42 If Jim Farley holds on for just four more years,losing $20 billion more, maybe he'll ll have a Democrat president to rescue him.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 09, 2025 11:15 AM (DmCto)
And that might be what they bet on.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 09, 2025 11:15 AM (DmCto)
And that might be what they bet on.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:16 AM (bss/y)
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Rivian is worldwide loss-leader. They lost $23.8 billion since 2013. More than any other company. Not much of a threat to Tesla.
Posted by: krennik at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (T0tPD)
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EV tech goes back to the origin of automobiles so it isn't new.
ICE is just so superior there is little reason to switch
ICE is just so superior there is little reason to switch
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (t0Rmr)
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"The Plan™" under *biden was twofold...
1. Get gas prices high enough that it hurt the public and the economy.
2. "Nudge" (force) people into the only available, and affordable option... EV's.
Manufacturers went along with this, willingly or not. As it was the only way they'd stay in business. Some went "all in" and others hedged. I'd wager that Ford was one that went "all in" and is now paying the price... literally.
The reasoning behind the government's push to EV's has been discussed at length, but I contend it was to control the public's ability to freely move about. Seeing as how a mobile society is difficult to subjugate.
1. Get gas prices high enough that it hurt the public and the economy.
2. "Nudge" (force) people into the only available, and affordable option... EV's.
Manufacturers went along with this, willingly or not. As it was the only way they'd stay in business. Some went "all in" and others hedged. I'd wager that Ford was one that went "all in" and is now paying the price... literally.
The reasoning behind the government's push to EV's has been discussed at length, but I contend it was to control the public's ability to freely move about. Seeing as how a mobile society is difficult to subjugate.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)
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If Jim Farley holds on for just four more years,losing $20 billion more, maybe he'll ll have a Democrat president to rescue him.
Posted by: JM
20 years.
4 for Trump
8 for Vance
8 for Huckabee-Sanders.
Posted by: JM
20 years.
4 for Trump
8 for Vance
8 for Huckabee-Sanders.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (y6oPX)
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Do you still get Henry Ford's book in the glove compartment?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:18 AM (Vnr18)
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osted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:10 AM (xcIvR)
Sounds like more of a FU to Musk and not to EVs.
Sounds like more of a FU to Musk and not to EVs.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:18 AM (VofaG)
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8 words you never want to hear from your Sales Director:
Don't worry. We'll make it up in volume.
All these EV focused companies are going to take a big shit. A few will remain. Tesla. Nissan focused Leaf (or derivative). Toyota Pirus.
Even Honda and Toyota CEOs are aiming towards hy-brids. Which should have been the focus from the beginning.
As a former Michigander, watching the Big 3 (per se') get their clock cleaned again by Japanese is a bit depressing.
Don't worry. We'll make it up in volume.
All these EV focused companies are going to take a big shit. A few will remain. Tesla. Nissan focused Leaf (or derivative). Toyota Pirus.
Even Honda and Toyota CEOs are aiming towards hy-brids. Which should have been the focus from the beginning.
As a former Michigander, watching the Big 3 (per se') get their clock cleaned again by Japanese is a bit depressing.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 09, 2025 11:18 AM (FxH7T)
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Yes, the old pita from PA has entered.
>PA Commonwealth. "Proudly founded in 1681 as a place of tolerance and freedom." Road User Charge for Electric and Plug-In Hybrid Vehicles
>ABC Channel 6: Earlier this month, Pennsylvania began charging EV owners a $200 "Road User Charge" or RUC, which will increase to $250 in 2026. Plug-in hybrid owners will pay $50 in 2025 and $63 in 2026. PennDOT began sending out forms to those impacted with payment details. Apr 24, 2025
Yo! This ^, casinos, legal pot, and Medicaid just might keep us rolling for another few years.
>PA Commonwealth. "Proudly founded in 1681 as a place of tolerance and freedom." Road User Charge for Electric and Plug-In Hybrid Vehicles
>ABC Channel 6: Earlier this month, Pennsylvania began charging EV owners a $200 "Road User Charge" or RUC, which will increase to $250 in 2026. Plug-in hybrid owners will pay $50 in 2025 and $63 in 2026. PennDOT began sending out forms to those impacted with payment details. Apr 24, 2025
Yo! This ^, casinos, legal pot, and Medicaid just might keep us rolling for another few years.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (NFX2v)
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48 If Jim Farley holds on for just four more years,losing $20 billion more, maybe he'll ll have a Democrat president to rescue him.
Posted by: JM
20 years.
4 for Trump
8 for Vance
8 for Huckabee-Sanders.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (y6oPX)
Huh, you don't think Vance is picking Rubio as VP?
Posted by: JM
20 years.
4 for Trump
8 for Vance
8 for Huckabee-Sanders.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (y6oPX)
Huh, you don't think Vance is picking Rubio as VP?
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (tOcjL)
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The reasoning behind the government's push to EV's has been discussed at length, but I contend it was to control the public's ability to freely move about. Seeing as how a mobile society is difficult to subjugate.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)
Probably a multipronged thing. Control as it's own end gets them off. You saw that with how vigorously they were jerking off during Covid.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)
Probably a multipronged thing. Control as it's own end gets them off. You saw that with how vigorously they were jerking off during Covid.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (bss/y)
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My guess is that it went something like this: “Teslas look cool, and drive cool. I can’t afford one; I’ll settle for a Ford/Chevy/Whatever.”
If customers are no longer interested in a Tesla there’s no reason to settle for a lesser cool. They’ll just return to practicality, where gasoline-powered vehicles excel.
Except for a few niche edge cases, there is no contest between modern gasoline-powered vehicles and modern battery-powered vehicles.
If customers are no longer interested in a Tesla there’s no reason to settle for a lesser cool. They’ll just return to practicality, where gasoline-powered vehicles excel.
Except for a few niche edge cases, there is no contest between modern gasoline-powered vehicles and modern battery-powered vehicles.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (EXyHK)
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53 Huh, you don't think Vance is picking Rubio as VP?
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (tOcjL)
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Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (tOcjL)
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Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
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EVs should generally not be considered a class C vehicle just based on weight alone, right?
If not, it's probably close.
If not, it's probably close.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (yvnLa)
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55 My guess is that it went something like this: “Teslas look cool, and drive cool. I can’t afford one; I’ll settle for a Ford/Chevy/Whatever.”
If customers are no longer interested in a Tesla there’s no reason to settle for a lesser cool. They’ll just return to practicality, where gasoline-powered vehicles excel.
Except for a few niche edge cases, there is no contest between modern gasoline-powered vehicles and modern battery-powered vehicles.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (EXyHK)
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I believe Teslas are the cheap option at this point.
If customers are no longer interested in a Tesla there’s no reason to settle for a lesser cool. They’ll just return to practicality, where gasoline-powered vehicles excel.
Except for a few niche edge cases, there is no contest between modern gasoline-powered vehicles and modern battery-powered vehicles.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (EXyHK)
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I believe Teslas are the cheap option at this point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
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Where can I get a job like Jim Farley’s? Please? Be completely incompetent and yet make crap tons of money with no consequences for failure. Sounds like the dream job…. If I owned Ford stock I’d be very annoyed to say the least
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (+kWhq)
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Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Didn't Ace discover that when he went through Rubio's garbage?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Didn't Ace discover that when he went through Rubio's garbage?
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (77rzZ)
61
I don't have the link but that little $27,000 plastic EV truck from the tech thread a few days ago, the Slate, has some appeal to me. Ford concept of "any color you want as long as it's black" as they are all gray. Modular parts. 150 mile range.
I will look into one when they are available.
I'd also kind of like to buy a Tesla Cyber truck just to piss off liberals.
I will look into one when they are available.
I'd also kind of like to buy a Tesla Cyber truck just to piss off liberals.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
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I believe Teslas are the cheap option at this point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
Burn unit bills are insane.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
Burn unit bills are insane.
Posted by: Chevy Bolt Owners Association at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (yvnLa)
63
Even Honda and Toyota CEOs are aiming towards hy-brids. Which should have been the focus from the beginning.
I just bought a new Honda Passport. I started out looking for a sedan, but almost everything was only available as a hybrid, including Honda and Toyota. I don't want a hybrid. If you do, that's great, you get your choice, but I saw no value in it for me.
I get that they're trying to please the CAFE overlords, but for me, it just didn't make any sense to pay for that additional weight and complexity.
The bottom line is that companies that listen to customers instead of the government will do better.
I just bought a new Honda Passport. I started out looking for a sedan, but almost everything was only available as a hybrid, including Honda and Toyota. I don't want a hybrid. If you do, that's great, you get your choice, but I saw no value in it for me.
I get that they're trying to please the CAFE overlords, but for me, it just didn't make any sense to pay for that additional weight and complexity.
The bottom line is that companies that listen to customers instead of the government will do better.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (s8j++)
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wow Buck, good essay on the stupidity of the guys running Ford.
Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (8uzBS)
65
Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
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The new Mustang is an abomination.
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The new Mustang is an abomination.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
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Huh, you don't think Vance is picking Rubio as VP?
Posted by: Nova Local
Hoping the first female president will be Huckabee-Sanders. At least she's qualified.
Posted by: Nova Local
Hoping the first female president will be Huckabee-Sanders. At least she's qualified.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (y6oPX)
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60 Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Didn't Ace discover that when he went through Rubio's garbage?
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (77rzZ)
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"I don't throw away anything Nickelback, not even my purchasing receipts! They are precious to me!"
-transcript from the October 2027 Congressional hearing
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Didn't Ace discover that when he went through Rubio's garbage?
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (77rzZ)
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"I don't throw away anything Nickelback, not even my purchasing receipts! They are precious to me!"
-transcript from the October 2027 Congressional hearing
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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56 53 Huh, you don't think Vance is picking Rubio as VP?
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (tOcjL)
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Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
I will forgive. Shortly after meeting my wife, I discovered two CDs in her car: Nickleback and Creed.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:19 AM (tOcjL)
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Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:20 AM (GBKbO)
I will forgive. Shortly after meeting my wife, I discovered two CDs in her car: Nickleback and Creed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (KbCG3)
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A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)
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46 EV tech goes back to the origin of automobiles so it isn't new.
ICE is just so superior there is little reason to switch
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (t0Rmr)
I remember watching a Dennis the Menace rerun with my grandmother when was home sick from school one day. Dennis was helping his elderly neighbor run errands one day and she had an old electric car from the 20s that she had to charge halfway through running errands. Part of the gag was that it was slow and she had to haul around this super long power cord.
ICE is just so superior there is little reason to switch
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:17 AM (t0Rmr)
I remember watching a Dennis the Menace rerun with my grandmother when was home sick from school one day. Dennis was helping his elderly neighbor run errands one day and she had an old electric car from the 20s that she had to charge halfway through running errands. Part of the gag was that it was slow and she had to haul around this super long power cord.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (hVVER)
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Rubio's reputation never recovered after it was discovered that he's a Nickleback fan in 2027.
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I thought it was lost when he took a sip of water. What was he thinking?
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I thought it was lost when he took a sip of water. What was he thinking?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (Dv3i1)
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I love the Friday Buck EV columns detailing the follies. Only thing missing today is a conflagration photo.
Posted by: Fire Bug Fred at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (G5+As)
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This was declared on Monday May 5th. I guess I missed it. Did y'all?
Posted by: DanMan
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Date on that story was April 7th in the link. There has been another decision in district court since then claiming without a war, there is no enemy to deport. I also think several districts have also been demanding full habeas hearings for deportees.
I saw what Jack posted but the only order I see for May 5th was the keeping troons in the military injunction dissolved. Last case opinion drop was in April.
Posted by: DanMan
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Date on that story was April 7th in the link. There has been another decision in district court since then claiming without a war, there is no enemy to deport. I also think several districts have also been demanding full habeas hearings for deportees.
I saw what Jack posted but the only order I see for May 5th was the keeping troons in the military injunction dissolved. Last case opinion drop was in April.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (ctrM5)
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Meanwhile, Toyota for the most part looked at all this shit and said 'lets make more hybrids.' And it seems to have been the way to go.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
My opinion... That's where the bet should be. Toyota leading the way. Hybrids are popular and also solid engineering. They've had plenty of time to work out any bugs and improve everything to the nth degree.
EV are only viable in certain climate conditions, and are not practical for long trips or long term.
Hybrid is tried, tested, functional, practical, and popular. And they don't tend to do that random incineration thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
My opinion... That's where the bet should be. Toyota leading the way. Hybrids are popular and also solid engineering. They've had plenty of time to work out any bugs and improve everything to the nth degree.
EV are only viable in certain climate conditions, and are not practical for long trips or long term.
Hybrid is tried, tested, functional, practical, and popular. And they don't tend to do that random incineration thing.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (2J/Lj)
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for a decade now I always point out that they skipped a step with the push to replace ICE vehicles.
As with the radical Left they want what they want and they want it now. If they would have pushed for Hybrid vehicles first as they have for EV's, pure ICE vehicles would have been on their way out by now (with a few exceptions)
As with the radical Left they want what they want and they want it now. If they would have pushed for Hybrid vehicles first as they have for EV's, pure ICE vehicles would have been on their way out by now (with a few exceptions)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (VofaG)
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A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
Posted by: 18-1
DeMS-13 plays the long game. Why can't we?
Posted by: 18-1
DeMS-13 plays the long game. Why can't we?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (y6oPX)
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I'd also kind of like to buy a Tesla Cyber truck just to piss off liberals.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
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rickb223, I would love to see that too.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 09, 2025 11:24 AM (NVNRw)
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69 A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)
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There was early word that he was going with Dan Crenshaw, but then Vance put out a press statement that said, "That guy is, like, real gay. I'm going with Ric Grenell instead."
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)
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There was early word that he was going with Dan Crenshaw, but then Vance put out a press statement that said, "That guy is, like, real gay. I'm going with Ric Grenell instead."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
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Lithium Dealers hardest hit.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:24 AM (pZ64F)
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66 Huh, you don't think Vance is picking Rubio as VP?
Posted by: Nova Local
Hoping the first female president will be Huckabee-Sanders. At least she's qualified.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (y6oPX)
We have a bunch of qualified R women...
But 2028 will be a rough election...and R women on the ticket tend to keep certain male R and indy voters home.
And Rubio would be a 1st as VP...and she wouldn't...so he brings more to it while she subtracts for that indy voter (see the Arizona male hispanic voters last election)...
Posted by: Nova Local
Hoping the first female president will be Huckabee-Sanders. At least she's qualified.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (y6oPX)
We have a bunch of qualified R women...
But 2028 will be a rough election...and R women on the ticket tend to keep certain male R and indy voters home.
And Rubio would be a 1st as VP...and she wouldn't...so he brings more to it while she subtracts for that indy voter (see the Arizona male hispanic voters last election)...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:24 AM (tOcjL)
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Tesla Model Y is best selling car. Not EV, best selling car.
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Yep.
And in those very specific terms it's quite the impressive feat.
Except think of how many people you personally know who recently bought a car. Not a vehicle. Not an SUV or truck. A car. Sedan or coupe.
Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
WRONG
Tesla Model Y : 1.2 million
Best selling SUV: Toyota RAV4 1.02 million
Best selling pickup: Ford F-Series 903k
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Yep.
And in those very specific terms it's quite the impressive feat.
Except think of how many people you personally know who recently bought a car. Not a vehicle. Not an SUV or truck. A car. Sedan or coupe.
Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
WRONG
Tesla Model Y : 1.2 million
Best selling SUV: Toyota RAV4 1.02 million
Best selling pickup: Ford F-Series 903k
Posted by: krennik at May 09, 2025 11:24 AM (T0tPD)
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And next year, Dodge comes out with a 10.0L Quad turbo 1,500+bhp hunk of ridiculous called the Dodge Abomination.
Track kit will cost 50% of the base price and come with a free wallet and a lifetime supply of diapers.
Track kit will cost 50% of the base price and come with a free wallet and a lifetime supply of diapers.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:25 AM (yvnLa)
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The new Mustang is an abomination.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
THAT is NOT a mustang. It is a worse switcheroo than when they brought back the GTO name.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
THAT is NOT a mustang. It is a worse switcheroo than when they brought back the GTO name.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:25 AM (bss/y)
85
Date on that story was April 7th in the link. There has been another decision in district court since then claiming without a war, there is no enemy to deport.
Invasions happen before war is declared.
Pearl Harbor happened before war was declared.
Invasions happen before war is declared.
Pearl Harbor happened before war was declared.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:25 AM (y6oPX)
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A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
We need to road test our options for fratricidal arguments. You don't just jump in without any research.
We need to road test our options for fratricidal arguments. You don't just jump in without any research.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:25 AM (s8j++)
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The new Mustang is an abomination.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
THAT is NOT a mustang. It is a worse switcheroo than when they brought back the GTO name.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Anyone catch the Maverick truck? WTF?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
THAT is NOT a mustang. It is a worse switcheroo than when they brought back the GTO name.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Anyone catch the Maverick truck? WTF?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
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Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
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Methinks Buick is getting ready to Pounce!
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Methinks Buick is getting ready to Pounce!
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (pZ64F)
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Fairly recently, reports came out that trade ins of EVs for ICs outpaced trade ins of EVs for EVs.
I think we've hit the point where for much of the market they have the opinion that the compromises outweigh the benefits of the product.
I think we've hit the point where for much of the market they have the opinion that the compromises outweigh the benefits of the product.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (Oq5OE)
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86 A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
We need to road test our options for fratricidal arguments. You don't just jump in without any research.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:25 AM (s8j++)
Gotta work out and train how to form that circular firing squad.
Keep your powder dry, fellahs.
We need to road test our options for fratricidal arguments. You don't just jump in without any research.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:25 AM (s8j++)
Gotta work out and train how to form that circular firing squad.
Keep your powder dry, fellahs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (bss/y)
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Game on in India again.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (Vnr18)
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85 Date on that story was April 7th in the link. There has been another decision in district court since then claiming without a war, there is no enemy to deport.
Invasions happen before war is declared.
Pearl Harbor happened before war was declared.
Posted by: rickb223
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No one declares war anymore. It just happens. And we prefer it that way.
- U.S. Congress
Invasions happen before war is declared.
Pearl Harbor happened before war was declared.
Posted by: rickb223
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No one declares war anymore. It just happens. And we prefer it that way.
- U.S. Congress
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (Dv3i1)
93
Anyone catch the Maverick truck? WTF?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
I hate almost all modern car design.
I like my cars to be curvy.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
I hate almost all modern car design.
I like my cars to be curvy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (pZ64F)
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The two 1920's electric cars from the Harrahs Auto Museum both out distanced the Leaf about ten years ago.
With the original batteries.
With the original batteries.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (xcIvR)
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52. Continued
A large majority of such vehicles are licensed in NY, DE, NJ and so on, a trend which became prominent during C19 in the state, and now remains the same or worse.
In fact, in some residential locations along the streets, a PA license plate is becoming uncommon.
Not too long ago, the policing in the state was quite good but alas...
A large majority of such vehicles are licensed in NY, DE, NJ and so on, a trend which became prominent during C19 in the state, and now remains the same or worse.
In fact, in some residential locations along the streets, a PA license plate is becoming uncommon.
Not too long ago, the policing in the state was quite good but alas...
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (NFX2v)
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In other news of poor decision making skills on display, UNC banned Jordan Hudson *so she can’t be controlling there, only everywhere else.
*Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?
*Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (pZEOD)
98
Ben Had, have you heard anything from JT lately?
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (77rzZ)
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Anyone catch the Maverick truck? WTF?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
I like those dumb little things.
Not my cup of tea to actually own one, but it's nice to see truck options that aren't a $90k Limousine with a two foot bed lifted fifty feet in the damn air.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
I like those dumb little things.
Not my cup of tea to actually own one, but it's nice to see truck options that aren't a $90k Limousine with a two foot bed lifted fifty feet in the damn air.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (yvnLa)
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The dealers are really pushing the "tariffs are coming, buy NOW" angle. When I pointed out that most of the vehicles I was considering were made in the US (although by transplants) the hemming and hawing was epic.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (s8j++)
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Best selling CAR means exactly that. Heck, Ford and GM don't even make them except for the Mustang and Camaro any longer.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (yZCmg)
CAFE standards make it impossible to make a decently priced sedan. The footprint and "type" now carry such severe penalties because they don't get the 45mpg fleet standard required by the laws.
This is yet another "make people buy things at the point of a gun" moment. Sec Trans Duffy may be doing something about this, it is probably something required under USSC decision of Loper-Bright, but it hasn't been fixed yet.
I am very sore today, and I apologize in advance for being a prick.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (yZCmg)
CAFE standards make it impossible to make a decently priced sedan. The footprint and "type" now carry such severe penalties because they don't get the 45mpg fleet standard required by the laws.
This is yet another "make people buy things at the point of a gun" moment. Sec Trans Duffy may be doing something about this, it is probably something required under USSC decision of Loper-Bright, but it hasn't been fixed yet.
I am very sore today, and I apologize in advance for being a prick.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (D7oie)
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According to the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA), Tesla sold 58,459 vehicles last month (including exports), down 5.96% year-over-year and 25.84% from March’s 78,828 units. From January to April, Tesla China's total sales fell 18.31% year-over-year to 231,213 units....
....Tesla is also facing a sharp downturn in Europe, with April 2025 sales collapsing across nearly all major markets. Once a regional EV leader, the company is now seeing year-over-year declines of over 50% in France, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, and the UK. In Germany—Europe’s largest car market—Tesla’s sales fell 46% despite a surge in overall EV adoption, ARS Technica wrote.
The report says that even in the UK, where battery electric vehicle (BEV) registrations rose 8.1%, Tesla’s sales plummeted 62%, registering only 512 vehicles out of more than 24,000 BEVs sold.
As I suspected. It's not low tier, borderline retarded liberals that are responsible for Tesla's sales drop.
Well, that is unless you want to consider Europeans and Commie Chinese low-tier, borderline retarded liberals, which I'm open to.
....Tesla is also facing a sharp downturn in Europe, with April 2025 sales collapsing across nearly all major markets. Once a regional EV leader, the company is now seeing year-over-year declines of over 50% in France, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, and the UK. In Germany—Europe’s largest car market—Tesla’s sales fell 46% despite a surge in overall EV adoption, ARS Technica wrote.
The report says that even in the UK, where battery electric vehicle (BEV) registrations rose 8.1%, Tesla’s sales plummeted 62%, registering only 512 vehicles out of more than 24,000 BEVs sold.
As I suspected. It's not low tier, borderline retarded liberals that are responsible for Tesla's sales drop.
Well, that is unless you want to consider Europeans and Commie Chinese low-tier, borderline retarded liberals, which I'm open to.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (IqKUv)
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We have a bunch of qualified R women...
But 2028 will be a rough election...and R women on the ticket tend to keep certain male R and indy voters home.
And Rubio would be a 1st as VP...and she wouldn't...so he brings more to it while she subtracts for that indy voter (see the Arizona male hispanic voters last election)...
Posted by: Nova Local
She has the executive experience as Governor.
Which is where the President traditionally was selected from.
But 2028 will be a rough election...and R women on the ticket tend to keep certain male R and indy voters home.
And Rubio would be a 1st as VP...and she wouldn't...so he brings more to it while she subtracts for that indy voter (see the Arizona male hispanic voters last election)...
Posted by: Nova Local
She has the executive experience as Governor.
Which is where the President traditionally was selected from.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (y6oPX)
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If they would have pushed for Hybrid vehicles first as they have for EV's, pure ICE vehicles would have been on their way out by now (with a few exceptions)
It isn’t just the denigration of hybrids; it’s the push for EV as Best For Everything. There are use cases for electric vehicles that do not require such dangerous storage density as is required for long-range vehicles.
I also blame government funding. There is a lot of money being spent on battery “research”, and all of it is going toward technology that is completely unsuitable for vehicles.
The idea that the same power storage tech will be best for pocket devices, long-range motor vehicles, and grid-level power storage is insane.
It isn’t just the denigration of hybrids; it’s the push for EV as Best For Everything. There are use cases for electric vehicles that do not require such dangerous storage density as is required for long-range vehicles.
I also blame government funding. There is a lot of money being spent on battery “research”, and all of it is going toward technology that is completely unsuitable for vehicles.
The idea that the same power storage tech will be best for pocket devices, long-range motor vehicles, and grid-level power storage is insane.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (EXyHK)
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93 Anyone catch the Maverick truck? WTF?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
I hate almost all modern car design.
I like my cars to be curvy.
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The wind tunnel wants suppositories. Ass Bullets. Totes Gay.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:26 AM (y6oPX)
I hate almost all modern car design.
I like my cars to be curvy.
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The wind tunnel wants suppositories. Ass Bullets. Totes Gay.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (pZ64F)
106
The new Mustang is an abomination.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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The new Mustang car is quite handsome.
The Mustang EV that they slapped the Mustang badge on to try to attempt to ride off of the name is laughable, but even fewer buyers would be found if they called it the Edge EV.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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The new Mustang car is quite handsome.
The Mustang EV that they slapped the Mustang badge on to try to attempt to ride off of the name is laughable, but even fewer buyers would be found if they called it the Edge EV.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (yZCmg)
107
Bulg, I have not. Giving him a call is on my to do list
Posted by: Ben Had at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (NVNRw)
108
94 91 Game on in India again.
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The Slushee Wars have begun.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (pZ64F)
Too bad asiatic immigrants are not known for operating Subways. Then we could shout out 'Subway Series!' like all those retarded NYers every time and annoy the fuck out of them.
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The Slushee Wars have begun.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (pZ64F)
Too bad asiatic immigrants are not known for operating Subways. Then we could shout out 'Subway Series!' like all those retarded NYers every time and annoy the fuck out of them.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)
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I'd also kind of like to buy a Tesla Cyber truck just to piss off liberals.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
They look like the demon spawn produced if a Rubix cube hate fucked a DeLorean.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
They look like the demon spawn produced if a Rubix cube hate fucked a DeLorean.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
110
I thought Musk should have sold his majority interest 2 years ago when they went after him for his compensation package.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (VofaG)
At the end of February 2025, Musk was the largest shareholder at Tesla with a bit over 12%. A lot of retirement funds seem to own Tesla so the lefties are fucking themselves.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (VofaG)
At the end of February 2025, Musk was the largest shareholder at Tesla with a bit over 12%. A lot of retirement funds seem to own Tesla so the lefties are fucking themselves.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (ExV1e)
111
Wait.
The press is celebrating a downturn in the profits of an American company that makes its cars in America that is owned by an African American?
The press is celebrating a downturn in the profits of an American company that makes its cars in America that is owned by an African American?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (W2Pud)
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*Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?
Let's just say the beejers were not in fact $20 same as in town.
Let's just say the beejers were not in fact $20 same as in town.
Posted by: Bill Belichick at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (t0Rmr)
113
I like those dumb little things.
Not my cup of tea to actually own one, but it's nice to see truck options that aren't a $90k Limousine with a two foot bed lifted fifty feet in the damn air.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Fod trucks:
Maverick
Ranger
F150 & up
Not my cup of tea to actually own one, but it's nice to see truck options that aren't a $90k Limousine with a two foot bed lifted fifty feet in the damn air.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
Fod trucks:
Maverick
Ranger
F150 & up
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (y6oPX)
114
She has the executive experience as Governor.
Which is where the President traditionally was selected from.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (y6oPX)
Look, everyone saw how Kari vs Trump did in Arizona...and it was not a surprise it was the Hispanic male voter who swung that for both elections...Arizona will still be swing in 2028...
Which is where the President traditionally was selected from.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (y6oPX)
Look, everyone saw how Kari vs Trump did in Arizona...and it was not a surprise it was the Hispanic male voter who swung that for both elections...Arizona will still be swing in 2028...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (tOcjL)
115
A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
Posted by: 18-1
Hell no - what else could we argue about for the next few years?
Posted by: 18-1
Hell no - what else could we argue about for the next few years?
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (cYBz/)
116
*Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?
Let's just say the beejers were not in fact $20 same as in town.
Posted by: Bill Belichick
She's pulling a golf ball thru a garden hose.
Let's just say the beejers were not in fact $20 same as in town.
Posted by: Bill Belichick
She's pulling a golf ball thru a garden hose.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (y6oPX)
117
Meanwhile, Toyota for the most part looked at all this shit and said 'lets make more hybrids.' And it seems to have been the way to go.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Toyota's boondoggle was pursuing hydrogen powered cars and so I think to some extent they had already had their green fatigue moment when EVs became the latest 'hot' thing.
Almost everything in life involves tradeoffs and that is where the public is usually ignorant at first of them and politicians exploit that ignorance to claim you can get something for nothing with no tradeoffs.
The problem for EV fans is that companies makign them burned the public badly with crappy products, vaporware, inadequate facilities, expensive repairs, and the tendency to go carbque unexpectedly.
Public, by and large, now is aware of the tradeoffs of EVs to IC engines and trying to fool or bully them into accepting them is a fool's mission. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow--only the hard work of rebuilding trust, infrastructure, etc. without gubmint grifting. Tesla might make a go of it but the grifters like Jim Farley and Ford won't.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Toyota's boondoggle was pursuing hydrogen powered cars and so I think to some extent they had already had their green fatigue moment when EVs became the latest 'hot' thing.
Almost everything in life involves tradeoffs and that is where the public is usually ignorant at first of them and politicians exploit that ignorance to claim you can get something for nothing with no tradeoffs.
The problem for EV fans is that companies makign them burned the public badly with crappy products, vaporware, inadequate facilities, expensive repairs, and the tendency to go carbque unexpectedly.
Public, by and large, now is aware of the tradeoffs of EVs to IC engines and trying to fool or bully them into accepting them is a fool's mission. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow--only the hard work of rebuilding trust, infrastructure, etc. without gubmint grifting. Tesla might make a go of it but the grifters like Jim Farley and Ford won't.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)
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> A little early to worry about who Vance will pick as his VP don't you think?
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I would be working on a ballot harvesting operation the likes of nobody's ever seen. And forcing in person, day of election only voting with no machines. Votes counted by midnight or they're void.
And so on.
Because the left is already working on another massive cheat for 2028 and way, way ahead of us.
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I would be working on a ballot harvesting operation the likes of nobody's ever seen. And forcing in person, day of election only voting with no machines. Votes counted by midnight or they're void.
And so on.
Because the left is already working on another massive cheat for 2028 and way, way ahead of us.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (Oq5OE)
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They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
Also a reason to buy one would be obtaining superhero status with the grands. They are both HUGE Elon fans.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
Also a reason to buy one would be obtaining superhero status with the grands. They are both HUGE Elon fans.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:31 AM (xcIvR)
121
Bellichek is in a most enviable position. Has enough money to last till his death, a hot young woman who may be sharp as a tack running his business and his johnson.
Posted by: Francis at May 09, 2025 11:31 AM (bbuBP)
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They look like the demon spawn produced if a Rubix cube hate fucked a DeLorean.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Madame has upped her game recently, 'rons.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Madame has upped her game recently, 'rons.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)
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The Mustang EV that they slapped the Mustang badge on to try to attempt to ride off of the name is laughable, but even fewer buyers would be found if they called it the Edge EV.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
Now do the Chevy Malibu.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
Now do the Chevy Malibu.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (y6oPX)
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In other news of poor decision making skills on display, UNC banned Jordan Hudson *so she can’t be controlling there, only everywhere else.
*Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (pZEOD)
News flash: Bill Belichick has lost his mind. Or more likely that’s a Bill Belichick imposter…. Those of us who’ve observed Belichick the football coach for 25 years know the real Belichick is a control freak. No matter how hot the lady (and honestly this Hudson lady is not all that) he’s not gonna let anyone control other than him…. Someone needs to do a wellness check
*Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:27 AM (pZEOD)
News flash: Bill Belichick has lost his mind. Or more likely that’s a Bill Belichick imposter…. Those of us who’ve observed Belichick the football coach for 25 years know the real Belichick is a control freak. No matter how hot the lady (and honestly this Hudson lady is not all that) he’s not gonna let anyone control other than him…. Someone needs to do a wellness check
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (5MZNC)
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Look, everyone saw how Kari vs Trump did in Arizona...and it was not a surprise it was the Hispanic male voter who swung that for both elections...Arizona will still be swing in 2028...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Cheat by mail states are not like other states. Predictions are pretty useless when the ballots come in weeks later as to who won.
Posted by: Nova Local
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Cheat by mail states are not like other states. Predictions are pretty useless when the ballots come in weeks later as to who won.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (ctrM5)
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‘ It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories’
That happened during Henry Ford’s time? I figured that happened as a product of the 1965 Immigration Act.
‘ It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories’
That happened during Henry Ford’s time? I figured that happened as a product of the 1965 Immigration Act.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (jbnUc)
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Realpolitik.
Breaking911@Breaking911
VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Breaking911@Breaking911
VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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Arizona will still be swing in 2028...
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Arizona is a bedroom community for California.
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Arizona is a bedroom community for California.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (pZ64F)
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Hell no - what else could we argue about for the next few years?
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (cYBz/)
.45 vs 9mm
Blondes vs Redheads
Ginger vs Maryann
North vs South
Longbows vs Crossbows
Shag vs Hardwood
Tits vs Legs
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2025 11:30 AM (cYBz/)
.45 vs 9mm
Blondes vs Redheads
Ginger vs Maryann
North vs South
Longbows vs Crossbows
Shag vs Hardwood
Tits vs Legs
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:33 AM (bss/y)
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They look like the demon spawn produced if a Rubix cube hate fucked a DeLorean.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Yeah. They are pretty cool looking.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Yeah. They are pretty cool looking.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:33 AM (xcIvR)
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127 Realpolitik.
Breaking911@Breaking911
VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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I was assured that we were getting boots on the ground.
Breaking911@Breaking911
VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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I was assured that we were getting boots on the ground.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)
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Anyone catch the Maverick truck? WTF?
Posted by: rickb223
The boy spawn has one. They aren't hideous. They also aren't real Maverick.
Posted by: rickb223
The boy spawn has one. They aren't hideous. They also aren't real Maverick.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:33 AM (2J/Lj)
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125 Look, everyone saw how Kari vs Trump did in Arizona...and it was not a surprise it was the Hispanic male voter who swung that for both elections...Arizona will still be swing in 2028...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Cheat by mail states are not like other states. Predictions are pretty useless when the ballots come in weeks later as to who won.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (ctrM5)
And yet, when those men were talking about Trump's nether regions as reasons they voted for him...ummm, and not mentioning voting for Kari...b/c there was a similarly equipped D man running against her...suppositions can be made...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Cheat by mail states are not like other states. Predictions are pretty useless when the ballots come in weeks later as to who won.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (ctrM5)
And yet, when those men were talking about Trump's nether regions as reasons they voted for him...ummm, and not mentioning voting for Kari...b/c there was a similarly equipped D man running against her...suppositions can be made...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (tOcjL)
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Imagine that we deported all those Soviets without a war with the USSR. But they were evil Russians, not our beloved TdA toughs who do human trafficking.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (D7oie)
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News flash: Bill Belichick has lost his mind. Or more likely that’s a Bill Belichick imposter…. Those of us who’ve observed Belichick the football coach for 25 years know the real Belichick is a control freak. No matter how hot the lady (and honestly this Hudson lady is not all that) he’s not gonna let anyone control other than him…. Someone needs to do a wellness check
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Brains age and include decreases in those parts regulating emotions and impulse control. That is why yutes are stupid messing with old men--their brains and their awareness of dwindling years means many do not give a shit anymore what society or the laws may say.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Brains age and include decreases in those parts regulating emotions and impulse control. That is why yutes are stupid messing with old men--their brains and their awareness of dwindling years means many do not give a shit anymore what society or the laws may say.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (ctrM5)
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VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
US State Department hardest hit.
Thank God.
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
US State Department hardest hit.
Thank God.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (cYBz/)
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They look like the demon spawn produced if a Rubix cube hate fucked a DeLorean.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Madame has upped her game recently, 'rons.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Yes, please, nobody bring up today's art.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Madame has upped her game recently, 'rons.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Yes, please, nobody bring up today's art.
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
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126 7
‘ It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories’
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He did this as a firebreak against the Purple Gang that ran Detroit. It was a Jewish Mob. Probably still running Detroit.
‘ It was Ford who brought the Muslims to Detroit to work in his factories’
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He did this as a firebreak against the Purple Gang that ran Detroit. It was a Jewish Mob. Probably still running Detroit.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (pZ64F)
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wow Buck, good essay on the stupidity of the guys running Ford.
Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (8uzBS)
More naive than stupid. Maybe "stupidly naive". Ford HQ trusted Dems. Ford HQ trusted globalists. It was a nascent fascist deal where Deep State government officials, together with Dem-afilliated labor unions conspired with the auto manufacturers to override customer's (mostly US citizens) vehicle preferences.
Donald Trump squashed that rip-off like a bug. Ending the anti-ICE (internal combustion engine) scheme played an important, but underreported part in his 2024 presidential campaign.
Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (8uzBS)
More naive than stupid. Maybe "stupidly naive". Ford HQ trusted Dems. Ford HQ trusted globalists. It was a nascent fascist deal where Deep State government officials, together with Dem-afilliated labor unions conspired with the auto manufacturers to override customer's (mostly US citizens) vehicle preferences.
Donald Trump squashed that rip-off like a bug. Ending the anti-ICE (internal combustion engine) scheme played an important, but underreported part in his 2024 presidential campaign.
Posted by: mrp at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (rj6Yv)
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Ford built a massive new plant (“Blue Oval City” near Memphis to assemble 500,000 electric pickup trucks per year.
...for $5.6 billion. Are you idiots?! Who the hell made that call?
...for $5.6 billion. Are you idiots?! Who the hell made that call?
Posted by: t-bird at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (r/hGe)
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WRONG
Tesla Model Y : 1.2 million
Best selling SUV: Toyota RAV4 1.02 million
Best selling pickup: Ford F-Series 903k
Posted by: krennik
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Wait, did you move the goalposts to worldwide? Why would we care or discuss what communist China or socialist Euro countries are requiring their subjects to purchase?
Per a quick brave search:
"Toyota RAV4 sales in the United States have shown steady growth over the years. In 2024, Toyota sold 475,193 RAV4 units, a 9.25% increase from the 434,943 units sold in 2023"
"In 2024, the Tesla Model Y was the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States, with sales of 405,900 units."
WRONG
Tesla Model Y : 1.2 million
Best selling SUV: Toyota RAV4 1.02 million
Best selling pickup: Ford F-Series 903k
Posted by: krennik
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Wait, did you move the goalposts to worldwide? Why would we care or discuss what communist China or socialist Euro countries are requiring their subjects to purchase?
Per a quick brave search:
"Toyota RAV4 sales in the United States have shown steady growth over the years. In 2024, Toyota sold 475,193 RAV4 units, a 9.25% increase from the 434,943 units sold in 2023"
"In 2024, the Tesla Model Y was the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States, with sales of 405,900 units."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (yZCmg)
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VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Dude! You visited the Pope.
Two days later, he died!
Visit Pakistan!
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
Dude! You visited the Pope.
Two days later, he died!
Visit Pakistan!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (y6oPX)
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What keeps Rivian stock so high, I wonder.... It loses $4 billion on $5 billion of sales, has barely enough cash on hand to last the rest of the year (so it needs a robust stock market to absorb another 25% dilution or a robust bank credit market to lend it the equivalent in new money...
Tough to understand why it's stock continues to rise in price.
Tough to understand why it's stock continues to rise in price.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (Rty+z)
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I'm not a Belichick fan but If he wants to give his money to a hot 24 year old who apparently has his back however crazy it is, I have no issue with it at all.
If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (VofaG)
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130 They look like the demon spawn produced if a Rubix cube hate fucked a DeLorean.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Yeah. They are pretty cool looking.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:33 AM (xcIvR)
And they seem to beg for some sort of heavy machine gun mounted on the roof. I mean, that bed is not useful for much, but it would make a good platform.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:29 AM (2J/Lj)
Yeah. They are pretty cool looking.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:33 AM (xcIvR)
And they seem to beg for some sort of heavy machine gun mounted on the roof. I mean, that bed is not useful for much, but it would make a good platform.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (bss/y)
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Lol.... imagine Trump inviting the Taliban to the Whitehouse to strategize over ending the kashmir war....
The streets would run gray with exploded skull contents.
The streets would run gray with exploded skull contents.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (yvnLa)
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Per a quick brave search:
"Toyota RAV4 sales in the United States have shown steady growth over the years. In 2024, Toyota sold 475,193 RAV4 units, a 9.25% increase from the 434,943 units sold in 2023"
"In 2024, the Tesla Model Y was the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States, with sales of 405,900 units."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
RAV isn't a car, either. It's an SUV. It's own category.
"Toyota RAV4 sales in the United States have shown steady growth over the years. In 2024, Toyota sold 475,193 RAV4 units, a 9.25% increase from the 434,943 units sold in 2023"
"In 2024, the Tesla Model Y was the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States, with sales of 405,900 units."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
RAV isn't a car, either. It's an SUV. It's own category.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:36 AM (y6oPX)
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Yes, please, nobody bring up today's art.
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
That it is a stupid place to build a house?
Or the perfect place for a misanthrope?
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)
That it is a stupid place to build a house?
Or the perfect place for a misanthrope?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)
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Also it should once again be noted that Tesla couldn't care less about the cars they sell.
The carbon credits that they cash in repeatedly after the sale on the cars already sold are where the money is. Imagine being able to sell the same car multiple times to multiple buyers, repeatedly and simultaneously, and it's completely legal. That.
Everything is fake and gay.
The carbon credits that they cash in repeatedly after the sale on the cars already sold are where the money is. Imagine being able to sell the same car multiple times to multiple buyers, repeatedly and simultaneously, and it's completely legal. That.
Everything is fake and gay.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:36 AM (yZCmg)
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If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
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Yoko still lives. John, not so much.
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Yoko still lives. John, not so much.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (pZ64F)
151
RAV4 counts as an SUV? Did they grow up?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (Vnr18)
152
That's like on Gold Rush. Parker decides at the start of the season he wants to pull 10,000 ounces of gold out of the ground. Why stop at 10,000? Why not 25,000? You pulled to number out of uour ass, why not shoot for the stars?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (y6oPX)
That worked for us!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:14 AM (y6oPX)
That worked for us!
Posted by: Communists and their Five Year Plans at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (aTimx)
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I used to know what RAV meant. Pretty sure the V is for vehicle.
Posted by: Francis at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (bbuBP)
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It is disgusting to watch CEOs make decisions that cost billions get golden parachutes while that sort of incompetence at lower levels in the private sector will get you fired.
This would be tough to reform...but I think starting with limiting how many boards someone can be on to one and allowing people with shares in 401ks to vote those shares instead of the holding companies...
This would be tough to reform...but I think starting with limiting how many boards someone can be on to one and allowing people with shares in 401ks to vote those shares instead of the holding companies...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (y6oPX)
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You want an EV, get an EV.
Don't be pushing efforts to outlaw ICE or forcing people to subsidize your EV.
fricken fascist skum.
Don't be pushing efforts to outlaw ICE or forcing people to subsidize your EV.
fricken fascist skum.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (zhin0)
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We need common sense Metallica control!
Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: Metallica concert registers a small earthquake in Virginia Tech's Lane Stadium as thousands of Hokies jumped in unison.
The band played in front of 60,000 fans as part of their M72 World Tour.
According to the Virginia Tech Seismological Observatory, there was a spike when Metallica started playing "Enter Sandman," as reported by CBS Sports.
The Virginia Tech football team is known for running out to the song before their football games as Hokie fans jump in unison.
So epic.
Collin Rugg@CollinRugg
NEW: Metallica concert registers a small earthquake in Virginia Tech's Lane Stadium as thousands of Hokies jumped in unison.
The band played in front of 60,000 fans as part of their M72 World Tour.
According to the Virginia Tech Seismological Observatory, there was a spike when Metallica started playing "Enter Sandman," as reported by CBS Sports.
The Virginia Tech football team is known for running out to the song before their football games as Hokie fans jump in unison.
So epic.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (L/fGl)
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Someone needs to do a wellness check
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May
Never forget there is no fool like an old fool. 😊
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May
Never forget there is no fool like an old fool. 😊
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (pZEOD)
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And yet, when those men were talking about Trump's nether regions as reasons they voted for him...ummm, and not mentioning voting for Kari...b/c there was a similarly equipped D man running against her...suppositions can be made...
Posted by: Nova Local
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AZ this time did not have cover of stopping the count everywhere to the benefit of Kamala.
That did not mean that they did not steal the 2024 election just like they have in previous races in 2022 and 2024.
Same as California, the Dems cheat by mail in lower level races where they can like in Orange County congressional districts. If you notice, every single close race gets won by Democrats and that margin of victory is always late votes--found thumb drives, mysterious ballots by mail, overseas voters with no apparent connection to the state, and so on.
And statistics-wise, you can never draw an inference from an n of one or even two.
Posted by: Nova Local
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AZ this time did not have cover of stopping the count everywhere to the benefit of Kamala.
That did not mean that they did not steal the 2024 election just like they have in previous races in 2022 and 2024.
Same as California, the Dems cheat by mail in lower level races where they can like in Orange County congressional districts. If you notice, every single close race gets won by Democrats and that margin of victory is always late votes--found thumb drives, mysterious ballots by mail, overseas voters with no apparent connection to the state, and so on.
And statistics-wise, you can never draw an inference from an n of one or even two.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (ctrM5)
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151 RAV4 counts as an SUV? Did they grow up?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (Vnr1
A lot of 'suvs' seem to fill the niche people want of having station wagons without being a station wagon.
*lights a candle for the Dodge Magnum*
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (Vnr1
A lot of 'suvs' seem to fill the niche people want of having station wagons without being a station wagon.
*lights a candle for the Dodge Magnum*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (bss/y)
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Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
Or, if you're my wife, those huge packages of paper towel rolls, 30-packs of toilet paper, and so on.
Or, if you're my wife, those huge packages of paper towel rolls, 30-packs of toilet paper, and so on.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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I cannot decide whether these companies bought the hype that EVs were going to take over the world, or are part of a plan to cynically MAKE that happen but its so pervasive that they even got Top Gear to start saying that nonsense. 50 years from now people are going to look back and marvel at the electric car fad and wonder why it was so pronounced in people who had the Mustang, Corvette, Camaro, and Hellcat.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (2VST1)
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Meanwhile, Toyota for the most part looked at all this shit and said 'lets make more hybrids.' And it seems to have been the way to go.
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I think that was part of the point of moving the Overton window like they did.
Notice everyone accepts hybrids now as a compromise, even though we had pretty much perfected the internal combustion engine?
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I think that was part of the point of moving the Overton window like they did.
Notice everyone accepts hybrids now as a compromise, even though we had pretty much perfected the internal combustion engine?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (yZCmg)
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Sounds like those who aren't buying Teslas just aren't buying EVs, in protest or not.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (3sj2H)
165
The new Mustang is an abomination.
I have a buddy that bought one. He wanted to show us how it drove. That piece of shit jumps from still to quick as hell in a second. We all told him to cut it out.
and its ugly
I have a buddy that bought one. He wanted to show us how it drove. That piece of shit jumps from still to quick as hell in a second. We all told him to cut it out.
and its ugly
Posted by: DanMan at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (8uzBS)
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Breaking911@Breaking911
VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
A good example of applying D for DIME.
VP VANCE ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT: "We can't control these countries."
"We're not going to get involved in the middle of a war that's fundamentally none of our business & has nothing to do with America’s ability to control it."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
A good example of applying D for DIME.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (aTimx)
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The idea that the same power storage tech will be best for pocket devices, long-range motor vehicles, and grid-level power storage is insane.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (EXyHK)
I recently listened to a lecture by a chemist who was claiming that Sodium would fill all the requirements of Lithium in battery tech, admitting that the weight would be greater because Sodium, but that the savings would be from the ability to more easily source and process Sodium compared to Lithium.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (EXyHK)
I recently listened to a lecture by a chemist who was claiming that Sodium would fill all the requirements of Lithium in battery tech, admitting that the weight would be greater because Sodium, but that the savings would be from the ability to more easily source and process Sodium compared to Lithium.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)
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To look at Arizona elections and not think corrupt is lame. Possibly gay too.
Posted by: Francis at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (bbuBP)
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RAV isn't a car, either. It's an SUV. It's own category.
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Yeah, that was my original point. Tesla has the best selling car when Ford and GM no longer even sell cars.
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Yeah, that was my original point. Tesla has the best selling car when Ford and GM no longer even sell cars.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (yZCmg)
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I'm not a Belichick fan but If he wants to give his money to a hot 24 year old who apparently has his back however crazy it is, I have no issue with it at all.
If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (VofaG)
Dude.....it's 2025.....on the internet.
This item has been selected for your attention, and we are going to need a stronger, more hyperbolic take on the issue.
You either need to vehemently oppose it or be a strong vociferous defender of it, even though it has nothing to do with you and is none of your business.
If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (VofaG)
Dude.....it's 2025.....on the internet.
This item has been selected for your attention, and we are going to need a stronger, more hyperbolic take on the issue.
You either need to vehemently oppose it or be a strong vociferous defender of it, even though it has nothing to do with you and is none of your business.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (IqKUv)
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Or, if you're my wife, those huge packages of paper towel rolls, 30-packs of toilet paper, and so on.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
Your wife is probably still satisfied from how easily you made it through covid, isn't she?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
Your wife is probably still satisfied from how easily you made it through covid, isn't she?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (bss/y)
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"FDNY marshals arrest suspect for setting 3 fires in Brooklyn NYCHA complex
Unique Cherry was arrested on Tuesday for sparking the blazes, which date back to December, Fire Commissioner Robert Tucker said."
Unique Cherry, my new favorite ghetto name.
Unique Cherry was arrested on Tuesday for sparking the blazes, which date back to December, Fire Commissioner Robert Tucker said."
Unique Cherry, my new favorite ghetto name.
Posted by: front toward enemy at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (TIizU)
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I have a BIL that worked for many years at the Mitsubishi plant in Bloomington, IL. Mitsubishi vacated that plant; closed it down. After some vacancy time, Rivian occupied that plant to much local fanfare. I don’t know what Rivian car is made there but I can’t imagine that plant can long survive… when it closes another blow to that local economy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (P/Wjn)
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To this day I haven't seen interviews with vote splitters that voted for Trump and a leftwing lunatic for senate that was just going to hamstring him.
Has anyone else? I'd love to hear the thought process for such a vote
Has anyone else? I'd love to hear the thought process for such a vote
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (t0Rmr)
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.45 vs 9mm
Blondes vs Redheads
Ginger vs Maryann
North vs South
Longbows vs Crossbows
Shag vs Hardwood
Tits vs Legs
Posted by: Aetius451AD
To be fair, Trump added tariffs up or down to our argument list and there is always Fenelon v. Mannix pix.
Blondes vs Redheads
Ginger vs Maryann
North vs South
Longbows vs Crossbows
Shag vs Hardwood
Tits vs Legs
Posted by: Aetius451AD
To be fair, Trump added tariffs up or down to our argument list and there is always Fenelon v. Mannix pix.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (ctrM5)
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With a HEMI.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (Vnr18)
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I recently listened to a lecture by a chemist who was claiming that Sodium would fill all the requirements of Lithium in battery tech, admitting that the weight would be greater because Sodium, but that the savings would be from the ability to more easily source and process Sodium compared to Lithium.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)
I think they use sodium tech to store power from solar farms.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)
I think they use sodium tech to store power from solar farms.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)
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"Even though" is the phrase I'd use. "Despite" suggests higher sales of non-EV vehicles had no effect on the drop in EV sales, when in fact sales levels move in relationship to one another for other reasons.
The reason is due to the Trump administration chopping off all the green energy bullshit and unlocking petro fuels production from the chains Biden has laid on.
But those dumb fucking "reporters" cannot bring themselves to state that clear fact, and write stupid words like "despite."
The reason is due to the Trump administration chopping off all the green energy bullshit and unlocking petro fuels production from the chains Biden has laid on.
But those dumb fucking "reporters" cannot bring themselves to state that clear fact, and write stupid words like "despite."
Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 09, 2025 11:41 AM (KiBMU)
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This item has been selected for your attention, and we are going to need a stronger, more hyperbolic take on the issue.
You either need to vehemently oppose it or be a strong vociferous defender of it, even though it has nothing to do with you and is none of your business.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (IqKUv)
This guy gets it.
You either need to vehemently oppose it or be a strong vociferous defender of it, even though it has nothing to do with you and is none of your business.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (IqKUv)
This guy gets it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)
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144 I'm not a Belichick fan but If he wants to give his money to a hot 24 year old who apparently has his back however crazy it is, I have no issue with it at all.
If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (VofaG)
It’s his money to do whatever with, that is between him and his family. It’s just an interesting, slow motion, public train wreck at the moment.
If she's his Yoko Ono and he doesn't have a problem with it why should I.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:35 AM (VofaG)
It’s his money to do whatever with, that is between him and his family. It’s just an interesting, slow motion, public train wreck at the moment.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:41 AM (pZEOD)
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Mr Jack hardest hit.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2025 11:41 AM (1m82a)
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This would be tough to reform...but I think starting with limiting how many boards someone can be on to one and allowing people with shares in 401ks to vote those shares instead of the holding companies...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr)
Or open CEOs who get golden parachute after failing to deliver a good performance to legal action to reclaim said golden parachute in the name of shareholders.
This would be tough to reform...but I think starting with limiting how many boards someone can be on to one and allowing people with shares in 401ks to vote those shares instead of the holding companies...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (t0Rmr)
Or open CEOs who get golden parachute after failing to deliver a good performance to legal action to reclaim said golden parachute in the name of shareholders.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2025 11:41 AM (aTimx)
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You either need to vehemently oppose it or be a strong vociferous defender of it, even though it has nothing to do with you and is none of your business.
In that case I strongly support having a 24 year old hottie managing my finances and naughty bits.
Bellichek though? Do not give a shit.
In that case I strongly support having a 24 year old hottie managing my finances and naughty bits.
Bellichek though? Do not give a shit.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)
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A lot of 'suvs' seem to fill the niche people want of having station wagons without being a station wagon.
Station Wagons are a casualty of CAFE like minitrucks. They got too bad gas mileage and that brought down the entire car line's average. Lift CAFE standards and suddenly these old classics people love become feasible again.
Station Wagons are a casualty of CAFE like minitrucks. They got too bad gas mileage and that brought down the entire car line's average. Lift CAFE standards and suddenly these old classics people love become feasible again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (2VST1)
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161 Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
Or, if you're my wife, those huge packages of paper towel rolls, 30-packs of toilet paper, and so on.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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Does your wife buy the paper towel and TP at Office Depot or Costco? I noticed I could probably save a good bit of money buying megapacks of brand name paper towels at Office Depot.
Or, if you're my wife, those huge packages of paper towel rolls, 30-packs of toilet paper, and so on.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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Does your wife buy the paper towel and TP at Office Depot or Costco? I noticed I could probably save a good bit of money buying megapacks of brand name paper towels at Office Depot.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (3sj2H)
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The band played in front of 60,000 fans as part of their M72 World Tour.
I don't get concerts of this size. Most ticketholders may as well be at home watching it on TV.
I don't get concerts of this size. Most ticketholders may as well be at home watching it on TV.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (UGyV5)
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I have a newish Toyota hybrid. I really like it so far… very good design, dependable and amazing gas mileage. I’d NEVER buy an EV
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (P/Wjn)
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ou either need to vehemently oppose it or be a strong vociferous defender of it, even though it has nothing to do with you and is none of your business.
In that case I strongly support having a 24 year old hottie managing my finances and naughty bits.
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
In that case I strongly support having a 24 year old hottie managing my finances and naughty bits.
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
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181 Mr Jack hardest hit.
Posted by: rhomboid
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I would say the poor sobs owning Ford stock, their workers, and the idiot states that sprayed taxpayer money on EV plants are the hardest hit.
A taxpayer and his money are soon parted by corrupt politicians.
Posted by: rhomboid
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I would say the poor sobs owning Ford stock, their workers, and the idiot states that sprayed taxpayer money on EV plants are the hardest hit.
A taxpayer and his money are soon parted by corrupt politicians.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (ctrM5)
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I don't get concerts of this size. Most ticketholders may as well be at home watching it on TV.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (UGyV5)
Just don't try to mosh with the dog.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (UGyV5)
Just don't try to mosh with the dog.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yvnLa)
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He wanted to show us how it drove. That piece of shit jumps from still to quick as hell in a second
All EVs have gigantic torque and are quick off the line, even in reverse. That's one of their big benefits.
All EVs have gigantic torque and are quick off the line, even in reverse. That's one of their big benefits.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (2VST1)
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Since we've strayed afar:
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)
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That's like on Gold Rush. Parker decides at the start of the season he wants to pull 10,000 ounces of gold out of the ground. Why stop at 10,000? Why not 25,000? You pulled to number out of uour ass, why not shoot for the stars?
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because reality shows are fake and gay.
Whatever number the claim they want at the beginning is just because that's close to what they got at the end and they just edit that in like it was the goal at the beginning.
Except for the time those dufusses went to South America. Dang but did they get embarrassed.
No editing was gonna save that shitshow.
Oh and the time they went to CO.
Those idiots launched the show but their refusal to learn anything is why I quit watching.
Parker and the Dutchman know what they doing.
Dutchman had one of my favorite sayings, (after chiseling Parker on a deal, lol):
Some lessons cost money, good lessons cost lots.
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because reality shows are fake and gay.
Whatever number the claim they want at the beginning is just because that's close to what they got at the end and they just edit that in like it was the goal at the beginning.
Except for the time those dufusses went to South America. Dang but did they get embarrassed.
No editing was gonna save that shitshow.
Oh and the time they went to CO.
Those idiots launched the show but their refusal to learn anything is why I quit watching.
Parker and the Dutchman know what they doing.
Dutchman had one of my favorite sayings, (after chiseling Parker on a deal, lol):
Some lessons cost money, good lessons cost lots.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (sMW+k)
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You gotta think that at some point the shareholders are gonna wake up and say "Hey, you know what, maybe we shouldn't be pissing away billions of dollars every year on shit nobody wants..."
Maybe when it becomes painfully obvious that the FedGov isn't coming to bail your ass out this time.
Maybe when it becomes painfully obvious that the FedGov isn't coming to bail your ass out this time.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (Wu4HK)
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192 Since we've strayed afar:
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)
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Again?!
How many times can one man die in a morning?
/sarc
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)
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Again?!
How many times can one man die in a morning?
/sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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174 To this day I haven't seen interviews with vote splitters that voted for Trump and a leftwing lunatic for senate that was just going to hamstring him.
Has anyone else? I'd love to hear the thought process for such a vote
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (t0Rmr)
I believe it's been scientifically documented to be:
"I'm fucking dumber than my pets, and I only have hamsters."
Has anyone else? I'd love to hear the thought process for such a vote
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (t0Rmr)
I believe it's been scientifically documented to be:
"I'm fucking dumber than my pets, and I only have hamsters."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (UGyV5)
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Thx Buck. That Ivanpah plant in the Mojave which is closing by the end of the year and has been a colossal waste uses sodium turned molten by the reflected sunlight to produce steam and then the energy. Not effective there or elsewhere.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (vmkyp)
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Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
Yeah they have a tiny square bed so you can pretend you have a pickup but can barely put a bicycle in it. Its just big enough to put groceries out in the wind and rain, but not big enough to be valuable for hauling anything.
Yeah they have a tiny square bed so you can pretend you have a pickup but can barely put a bicycle in it. Its just big enough to put groceries out in the wind and rain, but not big enough to be valuable for hauling anything.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (2VST1)
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CAFE standards make it impossible to make a decently priced sedan. The footprint and "type" now carry such severe penalties because they don't get the 45mpg fleet standard required by the laws.
This is yet another "make people buy things at the point of a gun" moment. Sec Trans Duffy may be doing something about this, it is probably something required under USSC decision of Loper-Bright, but it hasn't been fixed yet.
I am very sore today, and I apologize in advance for being a prick.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (D7oie)
A classic example of DC being jealous of Detroit, and wanting to get in the car business by telling the Big Three how to make cars and what cars they are allowed to sell. Because as we all know, DC knows best, better than even the market.
This is yet another "make people buy things at the point of a gun" moment. Sec Trans Duffy may be doing something about this, it is probably something required under USSC decision of Loper-Bright, but it hasn't been fixed yet.
I am very sore today, and I apologize in advance for being a prick.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:28 AM (D7oie)
A classic example of DC being jealous of Detroit, and wanting to get in the car business by telling the Big Three how to make cars and what cars they are allowed to sell. Because as we all know, DC knows best, better than even the market.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (aTimx)
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192 Since we've strayed afar:
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
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Did Vance pay him a visit?
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
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Did Vance pay him a visit?
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (pZ64F)
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It's a goose gander thing.
Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell
Get ready.
We must LOUDLY protest this [the Tish "Fat Fanny" James prosecution]. Trump is corruptly going after his enemies. If we are silent, democracy dies.
Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
No one is above the law.
Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell
Get ready.
We must LOUDLY protest this [the Tish "Fat Fanny" James prosecution]. Trump is corruptly going after his enemies. If we are silent, democracy dies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
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To this day I haven't seen interviews with vote splitters that voted for Trump and a leftwing lunatic for senate that was just going to hamstring him.
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They're standing there next to the Blemmyes and Cynocephali.
To this day I haven't seen interviews with vote splitters that voted for Trump and a leftwing lunatic for senate that was just going to hamstring him.
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They're standing there next to the Blemmyes and Cynocephali.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 09, 2025 11:46 AM (QnmlO)
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‘ I contend it was to control the public's ability to freely move about.’
There’s just so much stupidity AND evil intent among the powers that be, I could see either (or both) as the reason they pushed EVs
‘ I contend it was to control the public's ability to freely move about.’
There’s just so much stupidity AND evil intent among the powers that be, I could see either (or both) as the reason they pushed EVs
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:46 AM (jbnUc)
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
I really don’t care; in fact Belichick always rubbed me the wrong way.
I totally understand the attraction to a “hot” 20-something… but I don’t understand a willingness to lose one’s dignity. The older I get the more I value my dignity beyond pretty much anything else… I don’t believe I’d trade my dignity for even a young hottie
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
I really don’t care; in fact Belichick always rubbed me the wrong way.
I totally understand the attraction to a “hot” 20-something… but I don’t understand a willingness to lose one’s dignity. The older I get the more I value my dignity beyond pretty much anything else… I don’t believe I’d trade my dignity for even a young hottie
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:46 AM (P/Wjn)
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195 192 Since we've strayed afar:
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)
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Again?!
How many times can one man die in a morning?
/sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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He wakes up to "I got you babe" playing on the radio after each death.
NYT, David H. Souter, Republican Justice Who Allied With Court’s Liberal Wing, has died.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (NFX2v)
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Again?!
How many times can one man die in a morning?
/sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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He wakes up to "I got you babe" playing on the radio after each death.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 11:46 AM (3sj2H)
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Rep. Eric Swalwell@RepSwalwell
Get ready.
We must LOUDLY protest this [the Tish "Fat Fanny" James prosecution]. Trump is corruptly going after his enemies. If we are silent, democracy dies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
You're next bitch
Get ready.
We must LOUDLY protest this [the Tish "Fat Fanny" James prosecution]. Trump is corruptly going after his enemies. If we are silent, democracy dies.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)
You're next bitch
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (VofaG)
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
There is an episode of two and a half men where John Cryer's character - a divorced 40 year old starts a relationship with a 20ish year old woman. His ex-wife finds out and asks him if he is proud of himself and his answer is....YES YES I AM
I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
There is an episode of two and a half men where John Cryer's character - a divorced 40 year old starts a relationship with a 20ish year old woman. His ex-wife finds out and asks him if he is proud of himself and his answer is....YES YES I AM
Posted by: 18-1 at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (t0Rmr)
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A lot of 'suvs' seem to fill the niche people want of having station wagons without being a station wagon.
Station Wagons are a casualty of CAFE like minitrucks. They got too bad gas mileage and that brought down the entire car line's average. Lift CAFE standards and suddenly these old classics people love become feasible again.
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That's the hilarious part.
The federal government created SUVs by CAFE standards killing off station wagons.
Then, during Obama, they made SUVs and trucks absolutely huge by not understanding what they were doing with the "footprint" MPG model. There are interviews with Obama's minions where they openly admit not knowing what they were doing and making vehicles larger and less efficient overall, too.
Station Wagons are a casualty of CAFE like minitrucks. They got too bad gas mileage and that brought down the entire car line's average. Lift CAFE standards and suddenly these old classics people love become feasible again.
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That's the hilarious part.
The federal government created SUVs by CAFE standards killing off station wagons.
Then, during Obama, they made SUVs and trucks absolutely huge by not understanding what they were doing with the "footprint" MPG model. There are interviews with Obama's minions where they openly admit not knowing what they were doing and making vehicles larger and less efficient overall, too.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (yZCmg)
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Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (73voq)
Do they really want the clock turned back to 1960?? Do they? Sooner or later, for better or worse, someone is going to get tired of their shit. *note to self....take BP meds*
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (73voq)
Do they really want the clock turned back to 1960?? Do they? Sooner or later, for better or worse, someone is going to get tired of their shit. *note to self....take BP meds*
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (5xuJ/)
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David Souter may have been a sellout as a SCOTUS justice, but he was a helluva closer for the St. Louis Cardinals.
The guy was clutch.
The guy was clutch.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (IqKUv)
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You gotta think that at some point the shareholders are gonna wake up and say "Hey, you know what, maybe we shouldn't be pissing away billions of dollars every year on shit nobody wants..."
Now that the federal teat is drying up for asinine leftist projects like this, I suspect that will begin to happen. This stuff was all subsidized and could survive on tax dollars, but when that goes away? Its why companies like Master Card have stopped backing queer events and parades, because the business benefits are ending.
They all knew this stuff enrages their customers to please 5% of the population, but it got them access to low interest loans and grants from the fed and from fed-adjacent organizations. So it was worth it to them. When that dries up, its not any longer.
Now that the federal teat is drying up for asinine leftist projects like this, I suspect that will begin to happen. This stuff was all subsidized and could survive on tax dollars, but when that goes away? Its why companies like Master Card have stopped backing queer events and parades, because the business benefits are ending.
They all knew this stuff enrages their customers to please 5% of the population, but it got them access to low interest loans and grants from the fed and from fed-adjacent organizations. So it was worth it to them. When that dries up, its not any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (2VST1)
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
He had one of those. I guess she aged out. Now he has an ex cheerleader with a business or marketing degree, don’t really remember, who thinks she knows it all and launched her own business with his money, I mean good for her, but it is truly funny. “A diverse portfolio of cosmetics, real estate, marketing, business coaching and consulting…” and 50 other unrelated things.
I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
He had one of those. I guess she aged out. Now he has an ex cheerleader with a business or marketing degree, don’t really remember, who thinks she knows it all and launched her own business with his money, I mean good for her, but it is truly funny. “A diverse portfolio of cosmetics, real estate, marketing, business coaching and consulting…” and 50 other unrelated things.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (pZEOD)
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Here is my anecdotal observation for the day…. in my AO the gas price has been 2.74 for the last 5 weeks… I notice because prior to that the prices fluctuated, often drastically… I do not know why but it interests me.
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (PCK5/)
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If Ford goes belly up does that mean the Ford Foundation does too? Hope so
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (vmkyp)
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196 174 To this day I haven't seen interviews with vote splitters that voted for Trump and a leftwing lunatic for senate that was just going to hamstring him.
Has anyone else? I'd love to hear the thought process for such a vote
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Bad sampling--they have to ask the ballots what they think--not people on the street.
Has anyone else? I'd love to hear the thought process for such a vote
Posted by: 18-1
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Bad sampling--they have to ask the ballots what they think--not people on the street.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (ctrM5)
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Why no ICE sedans are being made by US companies, or at least EVs are being pushed so hard:
From the Federal Register - incomplete
The final rule establishes standards that would require an industry-wide fleet average of approximately 50.4 miles per gallon (mpg) in MY 2031 for passenger cars and light trucks, and an industry fleet-wide average for HDPUVs of roughly 2.851 gallons per 100 miles in MY 2035. The final CAFE standards increase at a rate of 2 percent per year for passenger cars in MYs 2027-31 and 2 percent per year for light trucks in model years 2029-31. The final HDPUV fuel efficiency standards increase at a rate of 10 percent per year in MYs 2030-2032 and 8 percent per year in MYs 2033-2035.
under this penalty for non-compliance:
the current civil penalty rate applicable to 49 U.S.C. 32912(b) of $5.50 per tenth of a mile per gallon for automobile manufacturers that do not meet applicable CAFE standards and are unable to offset such a deficit with compliance credits
From the Federal Register - incomplete
The final rule establishes standards that would require an industry-wide fleet average of approximately 50.4 miles per gallon (mpg) in MY 2031 for passenger cars and light trucks, and an industry fleet-wide average for HDPUVs of roughly 2.851 gallons per 100 miles in MY 2035. The final CAFE standards increase at a rate of 2 percent per year for passenger cars in MYs 2027-31 and 2 percent per year for light trucks in model years 2029-31. The final HDPUV fuel efficiency standards increase at a rate of 10 percent per year in MYs 2030-2032 and 8 percent per year in MYs 2033-2035.
under this penalty for non-compliance:
the current civil penalty rate applicable to 49 U.S.C. 32912(b) of $5.50 per tenth of a mile per gallon for automobile manufacturers that do not meet applicable CAFE standards and are unable to offset such a deficit with compliance credits
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (D7oie)
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210 David Souter may have been a sellout as a SCOTUS justice, but he was a helluva closer for the St. Louis Cardinals.
The guy was clutch.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (IqKUv)
Uh…. I’m standing right here…
The guy was clutch.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (IqKUv)
Uh…. I’m standing right here…
Posted by: Bruce Sutter Cubs and Cardinals closer at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (P/Wjn)
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I had two Honda Ridgelines in a row, a black 1st gen and a silver 2nd. Hard caps on both boxes. These, after a few F150s when I was building stuff.
Got stopped by an Ohio state highway patrolman near Columbus, eastbound near Columbus, for, essentially, driving with Colorado plates. The guy pretended I lane-changed back too quick in front of a semi after passing him, I said oh really, show me the dashcam. He thought I was hauling dope, CO being a dope state.
After I asked about the dashcam he tried the I'm your new friend schtick, asking me where I was going and why, and hey, whatcha got inside. I said none of your business and need to be on my way.
The dumb fuck then said OK be careful. Asshole.
Got stopped by an Ohio state highway patrolman near Columbus, eastbound near Columbus, for, essentially, driving with Colorado plates. The guy pretended I lane-changed back too quick in front of a semi after passing him, I said oh really, show me the dashcam. He thought I was hauling dope, CO being a dope state.
After I asked about the dashcam he tried the I'm your new friend schtick, asking me where I was going and why, and hey, whatcha got inside. I said none of your business and need to be on my way.
The dumb fuck then said OK be careful. Asshole.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (KiBMU)
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
There is an episode of two and a half men where John Cryer's character - a divorced 40 year old starts a relationship with a 20ish year old woman. His ex-wife finds out and asks him if he is proud of himself and his answer is....YES YES I AM
Posted by: 18-1
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Men and women think differently because people are not widgets.
I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
There is an episode of two and a half men where John Cryer's character - a divorced 40 year old starts a relationship with a 20ish year old woman. His ex-wife finds out and asks him if he is proud of himself and his answer is....YES YES I AM
Posted by: 18-1
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Men and women think differently because people are not widgets.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5)
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>> They all knew this stuff enrages their customers to please 5% of the population
It’s way more than 5% of the population.
I’m not sure the Federal teat is drying up. GOPe can’t even defund Planned Parenthood and wants to keep Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act spending.
It’s way more than 5% of the population.
I’m not sure the Federal teat is drying up. GOPe can’t even defund Planned Parenthood and wants to keep Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act spending.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 11:50 AM (l3YAf)
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I recently listened to a lecture by a chemist who was claiming that Sodium would fill all the requirements of Lithium in battery tech, admitting that the weight would be greater because Sodium, but that the savings would be from the ability to more easily source and process Sodium compared to Lithium.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)
Did they mention how awesome it would be if the battery was breached and the fire department hosed it down?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:39 AM (D7oie)
Did they mention how awesome it would be if the battery was breached and the fire department hosed it down?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (ExV1e)
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The older I get the more I value my dignity beyond pretty much anything else… I don’t believe I’d trade my dignity for even a young hottie
I'd trade an awful lot of dignity to get a 23 year old Phoebe Cates as a girlfriend. Even if I knew for sure she was just after my money. At least for a little while.
I'd trade an awful lot of dignity to get a 23 year old Phoebe Cates as a girlfriend. Even if I knew for sure she was just after my money. At least for a little while.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (2VST1)
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Look at the old Outback. It was a station wagon.
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (gt60b)
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Now, imagine the penalty for marketing a 1990 Toyota Tercell econobox that ONLY gets 30mph
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (D7oie)
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My AWD Kia Sportage is more or less a station wagon on steroids. I like the vehicle. I wouldn't mind having a sedan though. Or a sportier car. I can't have one unless I move my driveway. It has tall bank on one side and in a sedan, can't see over or around it we literally would have to get the entire front end out on the road to see if any vehicles were coming...... up the road. Hubbymayhem had a rental car and was nearly clobbered when a UPS truck came flying by. If there had been anyone coming over the hill from the other direction, someone would have been injured. SUV sit higher so we can see a little farther out from the driveway.
We have been considering moving the driveway. Not practical.
We have been considering moving the driveway. Not practical.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (2J/Lj)
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Uh…. I’m standing right here…
Posted by: Bruce Sutter Cubs and Cardinals closer at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (P/Wjn)
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You a zombie or ghost?
Uh…. I’m standing right here…
Posted by: Bruce Sutter Cubs and Cardinals closer at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (P/Wjn)
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You a zombie or ghost?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (3sj2H)
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I think they use sodium tech to store power from solar farms.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)
And if a sodium battery bank catches fire out in the desert, oh, well.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)
And if a sodium battery bank catches fire out in the desert, oh, well.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (WUoYt)
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He had one of those. I guess she aged out. Now he has an ex cheerleader with a business or marketing degree, don’t really remember, who thinks she knows it all and launched her own business with his money, I mean good for her, but it is truly funny. “A diverse portfolio of cosmetics, real estate, marketing, business coaching and consulting…” and 50 other unrelated things.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (pZEOD)
You do have to watch an elder abuse situation. He may no longer be competent or he may be a victim of abuse, and golddiggers should not benefit at the expense of the victim and his family...
He had one of those. I guess she aged out. Now he has an ex cheerleader with a business or marketing degree, don’t really remember, who thinks she knows it all and launched her own business with his money, I mean good for her, but it is truly funny. “A diverse portfolio of cosmetics, real estate, marketing, business coaching and consulting…” and 50 other unrelated things.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:48 AM (pZEOD)
You do have to watch an elder abuse situation. He may no longer be competent or he may be a victim of abuse, and golddiggers should not benefit at the expense of the victim and his family...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (tOcjL)
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The older I get the more I value my dignity beyond pretty much anything else… I don’t believe I’d trade my dignity for even a young hottie
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Not much dignity in shitting yourself on a regular basis.
Getting up 5 times a night to piss.
Choking down a handful of pills with a glass of fiber or vitamin supplement daily.
Spending the day stuck in front of the boobtube 'cause your joints hurt.
The wonders of old age.
A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
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Not much dignity in shitting yourself on a regular basis.
Getting up 5 times a night to piss.
Choking down a handful of pills with a glass of fiber or vitamin supplement daily.
Spending the day stuck in front of the boobtube 'cause your joints hurt.
The wonders of old age.
A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
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Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
I test drove the Ridgeline and liked it okay, but it does drive like a truck, so not for me. I'm that guy who would mostly use it to bring home plants from the nursery, with the occasional load of mulch.
I test drove the Ridgeline and liked it okay, but it does drive like a truck, so not for me. I'm that guy who would mostly use it to bring home plants from the nursery, with the occasional load of mulch.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (s8j++)
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Station Wagons are a casualty of CAFE like minitrucks. They got too bad gas mileage and that brought down the entire car line's average. Lift CAFE standards and suddenly these old classics people love become feasible again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Remove CAFE standards. Period. This isn't 1972.
If someone wants to 6 mpg, let them have it.
Talk about making the gas tax up on volume.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Remove CAFE standards. Period. This isn't 1972.
If someone wants to 6 mpg, let them have it.
Talk about making the gas tax up on volume.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (y6oPX)
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214 If Ford goes belly up does that mean the Ford Foundation does too? Hope so
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I don't think the CIA would allow that.
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I don't think the CIA would allow that.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (pZ64F)
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No 2 Indians speak the same broken pidgin english.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (Vnr18)
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because people are not widgets.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5)
This is what I'm always saying!!
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:50 AM (ctrM5)
This is what I'm always saying!!
Posted by: Robert Reich at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (gt60b)
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After I asked about the dashcam he tried the I'm your new friend schtick, asking me where I was going and why, and hey, whatcha got inside. I said none of your business and need to be on my way.
The dumb fuck then said OK be careful. Asshole.
Posted by: Mr Gaga
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They go to training seminars about how to violate your rights. Kansas State Police just got busted about systematic manipulations in traffic stops such are artificially prolonging stops, dog searches, etc. to violate 4th amendment rights.
Time for asset forfeiture laws without a conviction in court to go bye bye. And the money must go to the general fund, not to the cops.
The dumb fuck then said OK be careful. Asshole.
Posted by: Mr Gaga
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They go to training seminars about how to violate your rights. Kansas State Police just got busted about systematic manipulations in traffic stops such are artificially prolonging stops, dog searches, etc. to violate 4th amendment rights.
Time for asset forfeiture laws without a conviction in court to go bye bye. And the money must go to the general fund, not to the cops.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (ctrM5)
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Or, if you're my wife, those huge packages of paper towel rolls, 30-packs of toilet paper, and so on.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
TP doesn't expire. A buck saved buying in bulk is a buck which can be spent on a large glass of sugar masquerading as coffee.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 09, 2025 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
TP doesn't expire. A buck saved buying in bulk is a buck which can be spent on a large glass of sugar masquerading as coffee.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (NFX2v)
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Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
*Ranchero & El Camino have entered the chat.
*Ranchero & El Camino have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (y6oPX)
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204 I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
Yep.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (yZCmg)
Yep.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:54 AM (UGyV5)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)
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a divorced 40 year old starts a relationship with a 20ish year old woman. His ex-wife finds out and asks him if he is proud of himself and his answer is....YES YES I AM
Posted by: 18-1
When I found myself single again after the passing of my wife, I dated all over the age continuum. 8 to 80 - blind, crippled or crazy (as it were).
If you want an interesting dining experience take a 15 year younger woman to a restaurant. Some of the other ladies there will put on quite a show.
Posted by: 18-1
When I found myself single again after the passing of my wife, I dated all over the age continuum. 8 to 80 - blind, crippled or crazy (as it were).
If you want an interesting dining experience take a 15 year younger woman to a restaurant. Some of the other ladies there will put on quite a show.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 09, 2025 11:54 AM (cYBz/)
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198 Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
Yeah they have a tiny square bed so you can pretend you have a pickup but can barely put a bicycle in it. Its just big enough to put groceries out in the wind and rain, but not big enough to be valuable for hauling anything.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Boy spawn hauls 4x8 sheets of plywood in his Maverick. It's not the size of the bed, it's how well you secure the cargo.
Yeah they have a tiny square bed so you can pretend you have a pickup but can barely put a bicycle in it. Its just big enough to put groceries out in the wind and rain, but not big enough to be valuable for hauling anything.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Boy spawn hauls 4x8 sheets of plywood in his Maverick. It's not the size of the bed, it's how well you secure the cargo.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:54 AM (2J/Lj)
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223 The older I get the more I value my dignity beyond pretty much anything else… I don’t believe I’d trade my dignity for even a young hottie
I'd trade an awful lot of dignity to get a 23 year old Phoebe Cates as a girlfriend. Even if I knew for sure she was just after my money. At least for a little while.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It is not dignity that most old guys trade--it is money.
I'd trade an awful lot of dignity to get a 23 year old Phoebe Cates as a girlfriend. Even if I knew for sure she was just after my money. At least for a little while.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It is not dignity that most old guys trade--it is money.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 11:54 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (a4flb)
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When I found myself single again after the passing of my wife, I dated all over the age continuum. 8 to 80 - blind, crippled or crazy (as it were).
If you want an interesting dining experience take a 15 year younger woman to a restaurant. Some of the other ladies there will put on quite a show.
Posted by: Tonypete
Half less seven.
If you want an interesting dining experience take a 15 year younger woman to a restaurant. Some of the other ladies there will put on quite a show.
Posted by: Tonypete
Half less seven.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (y6oPX)
Posted by: Mohammed at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (l3YAf)
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‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
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Ford Mavrick, Honda Ridgeline... they're sedans with a large, open trunk for people who rarely ever need to actually "haul" something... but might need bring home a recliner or new grill from some big box store.
*Ranchero & El Camino have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (y6oPX)
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No! You can't barrow my damn truck.
*Ranchero & El Camino have entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (y6oPX)
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No! You can't barrow my damn truck.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (W/lyH)
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At the bottom of it all is Gaia, and money… mostly money.
Posted by: tubal at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (PCK5/)
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@247 8 to 80? 😮
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (3sj2H)
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The new Mustang is an abomination.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
THAT is NOT a mustang. It is a worse switcheroo than when they brought back the GTO name.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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To date, I have only seen one. A pair of yuppies dismarking from it after parking. I asked myself, 'WTF were you thinking?' Some sort of odd ego thing at work there.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 09, 2025 11:22 AM (Dv3i1)
THAT is NOT a mustang. It is a worse switcheroo than when they brought back the GTO name.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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To date, I have only seen one. A pair of yuppies dismarking from it after parking. I asked myself, 'WTF were you thinking?' Some sort of odd ego thing at work there.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (XeU6L)
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‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
Does he have any Family ? They should stage an intervention...
‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
Does he have any Family ? They should stage an intervention...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (VE6XX)
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217 210 David Souter may have been a sellout as a SCOTUS justice, but he was a helluva closer for the St. Louis Cardinals.
The guy was clutch.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (IqKUv)
Uh…. I’m standing right here…
Posted by: Bruce Sutter Cubs and Cardinals closer at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (P/Wjn)
Wait. That was Bruce Sutter, wasn't it.
Was David Souter the guy that played for the Islanders then?
The guy was clutch.
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:47 AM (IqKUv)
Uh…. I’m standing right here…
Posted by: Bruce Sutter Cubs and Cardinals closer at May 09, 2025 11:49 AM (P/Wjn)
Wait. That was Bruce Sutter, wasn't it.
Was David Souter the guy that played for the Islanders then?
Posted by: Unsavory Truth at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (IqKUv)
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Not much dignity in shitting yourself on a regular basis.
Getting up 5 times a night to piss.
Choking down a handful of pills with a glass of fiber or vitamin supplement daily.
Spending the day stuck in front of the boobtube 'cause your joints hurt.
The wonders of old age.
A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
No… all those things happen in private. Important distinction. Dignity is maintained in public…. No one is dignified in private sitting in the can scratching their balls. Belichick is making himself a public spectacle…. If he wanted to light it up with her in private more power to him
Getting up 5 times a night to piss.
Choking down a handful of pills with a glass of fiber or vitamin supplement daily.
Spending the day stuck in front of the boobtube 'cause your joints hurt.
The wonders of old age.
A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
No… all those things happen in private. Important distinction. Dignity is maintained in public…. No one is dignified in private sitting in the can scratching their balls. Belichick is making himself a public spectacle…. If he wanted to light it up with her in private more power to him
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (WnEm5)
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I will never understand the Tesla hate. I get there are downsides to EVs and I did not buy my Tesla to save the planet, I bought one because it was the best option for me and as a capitalist, that is how I make buying decisions. I have to say, the car is spectacular, best vehicle I have ever owned and it is not close and with each update, it gets just a little better. I get that they may not be a good fit for some or even most but when its time for me to buy another car, I doubt I will bother looking at any other manufacturer.
Posted by: AndrewsDad at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (WX3pP)
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If you want an interesting dining experience take a 15 year younger woman to a restaurant. Some of the other ladies there will put on quite a show.
Posted by: Tonypete
When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
Posted by: Tonypete
When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:57 AM (y6oPX)
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I don't get concerts of this size. Most ticketholders may as well be at home watching it on TV.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (UGyV5)
It's about being part of the group experience.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 11:42 AM (UGyV5)
It's about being part of the group experience.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 11:57 AM (ExV1e)
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*disembarking
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2025 11:57 AM (XeU6L)
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You do have to watch an elder abuse situation. He may no longer be competent or he may be a victim of abuse, and golddiggers should not benefit at the expense of the victim and his family...
Posted by: Nova Local at May
He seems pretty competent, he is coaching at UNC, just wrote a book, he is no Biden. I think he is just a little blind right now to the situation, I don’t think he predicted the backlash to her. It really is between his family and him, I imagine that is a delicate situation in and of itself.
Posted by: Nova Local at May
He seems pretty competent, he is coaching at UNC, just wrote a book, he is no Biden. I think he is just a little blind right now to the situation, I don’t think he predicted the backlash to her. It really is between his family and him, I imagine that is a delicate situation in and of itself.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:57 AM (pZEOD)
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Make Ford Focus Groups (SWIDT?) Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (gdH0L)
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AndrewsDad, meet Mr Jack.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (1m82a)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (sMW+k)
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At least I assume Belichick can get what he wants out of the relationship and not like the decrepit old man that Ana Nicole Smith married.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)
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*Ranchero & El Camino have entered the chat.
Makes for a great Date Night vehicle if one simply adds Astroturf to the bed.
Makes for a great Date Night vehicle if one simply adds Astroturf to the bed.
Posted by: BillClinton at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (a4flb)
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RAV4 counts as an SUV? Did they grow up?
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (Vnr1
A lot of 'suvs' seem to fill the niche people want of having station wagons without being a station wagon.
First car was a IH Scout Travelor.
Title said "station wagon"
*lights a candle for the Dodge Magnum*
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 09, 2025 11:37 AM (Vnr1
A lot of 'suvs' seem to fill the niche people want of having station wagons without being a station wagon.
First car was a IH Scout Travelor.
Title said "station wagon"
*lights a candle for the Dodge Magnum*
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (zhin0)
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256 Not much dignity in shitting yourself on a regular basis.
Getting up 5 times a night to piss.
Choking down a handful of pills with a glass of fiber or vitamin supplement daily.
Spending the day stuck in front of the boobtube 'cause your joints hurt.
The wonders of old age.
A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
No… all those things happen in private. Important distinction. Dignity is maintained in public…. No one is dignified in private sitting in the can scratching their balls. Belichick is making himself a public spectacle…. If he wanted to light it up with her in private more power to him
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (WnEm5)
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What good is a trophy girlfriend if you can't show her off? amirite
Getting up 5 times a night to piss.
Choking down a handful of pills with a glass of fiber or vitamin supplement daily.
Spending the day stuck in front of the boobtube 'cause your joints hurt.
The wonders of old age.
A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
No… all those things happen in private. Important distinction. Dignity is maintained in public…. No one is dignified in private sitting in the can scratching their balls. Belichick is making himself a public spectacle…. If he wanted to light it up with her in private more power to him
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (WnEm5)
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What good is a trophy girlfriend if you can't show her off? amirite
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (3sj2H)
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‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
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She was a shark long before the Belichick opportunity came along.
‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
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She was a shark long before the Belichick opportunity came along.
Posted by: WisRich at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (G0vdT)
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254 249 97
‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
Does he have any Family ? They should stage an intervention...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (VE6XX)
Yes, someone should save him from the peril. Naughty Zoot!
‘Belichick’s 24 year old girlfriend and now CEO of Belichick Enterprises. Also, new owner of an $8M real estate portfolio. Wonder how that happened?’
She really did a job on him.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)
Does he have any Family ? They should stage an intervention...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 09, 2025 11:56 AM (VE6XX)
Yes, someone should save him from the peril. Naughty Zoot!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (KbCG3)
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When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
If he asks if she'd like a kiddie menu, you're Joe Biden.
If he asks if she'd like a kiddie menu, you're Joe Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (s8j++)
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William Clay Ford was a drunk but Henry the Deuce was able to keep him involved at Lincoln with body design. He did manage to steal his wife's checkbook and buy the Lions, making it the next to least valuable franchise in the NFL.
Young Billy continued that mismanagement until the family kicked him out of that assignment, his next inspiration was to ruin Greenfield Village by sticking an ultramodern headquarters to hover over it's old town recreation vibe in Dearborn.
They just completed renovation of the Michigan Central Train station, a beautiful building with small prospects of residency.
The stupid with this guy goes on and on.
William Clay Ford was a drunk but Henry the Deuce was able to keep him involved at Lincoln with body design. He did manage to steal his wife's checkbook and buy the Lions, making it the next to least valuable franchise in the NFL.
Young Billy continued that mismanagement until the family kicked him out of that assignment, his next inspiration was to ruin Greenfield Village by sticking an ultramodern headquarters to hover over it's old town recreation vibe in Dearborn.
They just completed renovation of the Michigan Central Train station, a beautiful building with small prospects of residency.
The stupid with this guy goes on and on.
Posted by: Auspex at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (j4U/Z)
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I will never understand the Tesla hate.
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Very few people on the right hate them. The criticism of something that isn't a car and isn't useful for the vast majority of people as a car is not hatred.
If any hate exists it's for the government mandates requiring the selling and purchasing of EVs. CARB and the states that signed onto CARB agreements and what not.
But people can buy a Tesla the same way they can buy a truck.
You know, it would be interesting to know how many EV owners criticize truck owners for never towing anything...
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Very few people on the right hate them. The criticism of something that isn't a car and isn't useful for the vast majority of people as a car is not hatred.
If any hate exists it's for the government mandates requiring the selling and purchasing of EVs. CARB and the states that signed onto CARB agreements and what not.
But people can buy a Tesla the same way they can buy a truck.
You know, it would be interesting to know how many EV owners criticize truck owners for never towing anything...
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (yZCmg)
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If one of the major three wanted to make bank, allow customers to special order a vehicle from years past.
Yeah, a 2027 Chevy Bel Aire that LOOKS LIKE A 1957!
Yeah, a 2027 Chevy Bel Aire that LOOKS LIKE A 1957!
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (y6oPX)
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258 If you want an interesting dining experience take a 15 year younger woman to a restaurant. Some of the other ladies there will put on quite a show.
Posted by: Tonypete
When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
Posted by: rickb223 at May
Js dad, who isn’t doing well, bless him, is married to someone 10 years younger than us- not him, us. I think that huge age gap has become very, very real now that he isn’t doing well and requires assisted living care.
Posted by: Tonypete
When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
Posted by: rickb223 at May
Js dad, who isn’t doing well, bless him, is married to someone 10 years younger than us- not him, us. I think that huge age gap has become very, very real now that he isn’t doing well and requires assisted living care.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (pZEOD)
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>> TP doesn't expire. A buck saved buying in bulk is a buck which can be spent on a large glass of sugar masquerading as coffee.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (ExV1e)
A lot of stores have gotten wise and the per-unit price for buying in bulk is higher. Always best to compare. Sometimes it’s the middle size that’s the cheapest per-unit.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 11:53 AM (ExV1e)
A lot of stores have gotten wise and the per-unit price for buying in bulk is higher. Always best to compare. Sometimes it’s the middle size that’s the cheapest per-unit.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 11:59 AM (l3YAf)
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A classic example of DC being jealous of Detroit, and wanting to get in the car business by telling the Big Three how to make cars and what cars they are allowed to sell. Because as we all know, DC knows best, better than even the market.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (aTimx)
CAFE standards were set up to paper over the fact that Johnson and Nixon screwed up the Bretton Woods agreement and screwed up the international settling of debts and Nixon made it worse by instituting price and wage controls. OPEC didn't like being paid in trash papers and promises and pulled our chain hard, and got the agreement on how they would get paid.
But no one could admit that, so we got "peak oil" and CAFE standards.
It is a grift that has been a pretext to steal and control for 50 years.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 09, 2025 11:45 AM (aTimx)
CAFE standards were set up to paper over the fact that Johnson and Nixon screwed up the Bretton Woods agreement and screwed up the international settling of debts and Nixon made it worse by instituting price and wage controls. OPEC didn't like being paid in trash papers and promises and pulled our chain hard, and got the agreement on how they would get paid.
But no one could admit that, so we got "peak oil" and CAFE standards.
It is a grift that has been a pretext to steal and control for 50 years.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (D7oie)
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261 You do have to watch an elder abuse situation. He may no longer be competent or he may be a victim of abuse, and golddiggers should not benefit at the expense of the victim and his family...
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Well, he is coaching for the Tarheels.
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Well, he is coaching for the Tarheels.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (pZ64F)
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I have no problem with Tesla's. Buy what you want, drive what you want. Technologically, they are a marvel. But, subsidies, in any form, I adamantly oppose.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (XeU6L)
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I will never understand the Tesla hate
I think they are overrated, but not particularly hated. Most of the EV attacks here aren't based on spite toward the technology but toward the attitudes and hype and government waste. Its people pushing this crap with lies and stupidity that annoy us, not the EV its self. Yeah they have their problems but its your money. We all buy stuff that others might not consider wise.
But the huge money from the feds being shoveled into the maw of the EV furnace and the laws and policies to promote this technology (especially at the expense of other possibilities), that's frustrating and annoying.
I think they are overrated, but not particularly hated. Most of the EV attacks here aren't based on spite toward the technology but toward the attitudes and hype and government waste. Its people pushing this crap with lies and stupidity that annoy us, not the EV its self. Yeah they have their problems but its your money. We all buy stuff that others might not consider wise.
But the huge money from the feds being shoveled into the maw of the EV furnace and the laws and policies to promote this technology (especially at the expense of other possibilities), that's frustrating and annoying.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (2VST1)
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265 At least I assume Belichick can get what he wants out of the relationship and not like the decrepit old man that Ana Nicole Smith married.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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A lot of really wealthy guys get pissed off at their putative heirs drooling over what they might inherit. Not surprising that some go YOLO because after all, they earned it. Some don't and some do.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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A lot of really wealthy guys get pissed off at their putative heirs drooling over what they might inherit. Not surprising that some go YOLO because after all, they earned it. Some don't and some do.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (ctrM5)
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I saw a, I think Kia, concept EV that looks like an 80's sedan.
Fricking sweet looking.
I would 100% take that over a Tesla if I was in the market for a town runner.
Fricking sweet looking.
I would 100% take that over a Tesla if I was in the market for a town runner.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (sMW+k)
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265 At least I assume Belichick can get what he wants out of the relationship and not like the decrepit old man that Ana Nicole Smith married.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)
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For him marrying Anna Nicole Smith (RIP) must have been like marrying a bouncy castle.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)
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For him marrying Anna Nicole Smith (RIP) must have been like marrying a bouncy castle.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 12:00 PM (3sj2H)
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How is it undignified to date a younger woman? Older men have been doing that since the dawn of history.
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)
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We have been considering moving the driveway. Not practical.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (2J/Lj)
Consider mounting some convex mirrors on posts at the entrance to your driveway.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 09, 2025 11:51 AM (2J/Lj)
Consider mounting some convex mirrors on posts at the entrance to your driveway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (WUoYt)
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I bet everyone is supposed to act shocked and surprised that he didn't seek out an accomplished, wealthy older woman with advanced degrees and accumulated wealth from 30 years of business and corporate experience to be his mate.
As near as I can tell, he does not have children. That could be a factor in his thinking along with "she's hot".
As near as I can tell, he does not have children. That could be a factor in his thinking along with "she's hot".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (ExV1e)
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He seems pretty competent, he is coaching at UNC, just wrote a book, he is no Biden. I think he is just a little blind right now to the situation, I don’t think he predicted the backlash to her. It really is between his family and him, I imagine that is a delicate situation in and of itself.
While I wouldn't data a young woman because I have some dignity, AFAIK playing the fool isn't a legal concept, so he can do what he wants. I suspect there are a lot of Belichick spawn who are nervously watching their inheritance, though.
While I wouldn't data a young woman because I have some dignity, AFAIK playing the fool isn't a legal concept, so he can do what he wants. I suspect there are a lot of Belichick spawn who are nervously watching their inheritance, though.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (s8j++)
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Again?!
How many times can one man die in a morning?
/sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
During John McCain’s Funeral, no less!
How many times can one man die in a morning?
/sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
During John McCain’s Funeral, no less!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (l3YAf)
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A lot of stores have gotten wise and the per-unit price for buying in bulk is higher. Always best to compare. Sometimes it’s the middle size that’s the cheapest per-unit.
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Maff is hard.
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Maff is hard.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (pZ64F)
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OPEC didn't like being paid in trash papers and promises and pulled our chain hard, and got the agreement on how they would get paid.
But no one could admit that, so we got "peak oil" and CAFE standards.
It is a grift that has been a pretext to steal and control for 50 years.
Posted by: Kindltot
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To be fair, there was the whole 1973 Arab-Israeli war and subsequent Arab oil embargo.
It wasn't all Bretton Woods.
But no one could admit that, so we got "peak oil" and CAFE standards.
It is a grift that has been a pretext to steal and control for 50 years.
Posted by: Kindltot
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To be fair, there was the whole 1973 Arab-Israeli war and subsequent Arab oil embargo.
It wasn't all Bretton Woods.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (ctrM5)
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When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
If he asks if she'd like a kiddie menu, you're Joe Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes
Seriously. I mean, I'm 62. If I'm sitting with a 22 yr old, I can't get too pissed if he asks what my daughter or granddaughter would like.
If he asks if she'd like a kiddie menu, you're Joe Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes
Seriously. I mean, I'm 62. If I'm sitting with a 22 yr old, I can't get too pissed if he asks what my daughter or granddaughter would like.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (y6oPX)
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I test drove the Ridgeline and liked it okay, but it does drive like a truck, so not for me. I'm that guy who would mostly use it to bring home plants from the nursery, with the occasional load of mulch.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (s8j++)
I call them "Fridgelines", because they look like an appliance.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (s8j++)
I call them "Fridgelines", because they look like an appliance.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (WUoYt)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (sMW+k)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (YSM/8)
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Yeah, a 2027 Chevy Bel Aire that LOOKS LIKE A 1957!
That is my dream company. A business that builds modern "restomod" type cars with old car body designs. Especially from dead companies like Studebaker, Pierce-Arrow, Tucker, Hudson, etc. But with modern ride, features, engines, etc. They'd be hella expensive, but so sweet looking.
That is my dream company. A business that builds modern "restomod" type cars with old car body designs. Especially from dead companies like Studebaker, Pierce-Arrow, Tucker, Hudson, etc. But with modern ride, features, engines, etc. They'd be hella expensive, but so sweet looking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (2VST1)
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“A diverse portfolio of cosmetics, real estate, marketing, business coaching and consulting…” and 50 other unrelated things.
I mean, it worked for Meghan Markle.
I mean, it worked for Meghan Markle.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (ExV1e)
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If one of the major three wanted to make bank, allow customers to special order a vehicle from years past.
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I'll have a '69 Z-28, thank you.
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I'll have a '69 Z-28, thank you.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (XeU6L)
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"I have no problem with Tesla's. Buy what you want, drive what you want. Technologically, they are a marvel. But, subsidies, in any form, I adamantly oppose."
Bingo.
Would Tesla have survived without subsidies until they became first-mover in a small niche market? Don't almost half their "revenues" today still come from selling "carbon credits"?
Bingo.
Would Tesla have survived without subsidies until they became first-mover in a small niche market? Don't almost half their "revenues" today still come from selling "carbon credits"?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (1m82a)
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When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
If he asks if she'd like a kiddie menu, you're Joe Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes
you wink and reply 'me'
If he asks if she'd like a kiddie menu, you're Joe Biden.
Posted by: Archimedes
you wink and reply 'me'
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)
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rental car and was nearly clobbered when a UPS truck came flying by. If there had been anyone coming over the hill from the other direction, someone would have been injured. SUV sit higher so we can see a little farther out from the driveway.
We have been considering moving the driveway. Not practical.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench)
Wow! You live on the "farm" in the Art Thread?
We have been considering moving the driveway. Not practical.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench)
Wow! You live on the "farm" in the Art Thread?
Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slurp at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (G5+As)
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Old man marries a trophy wife.
Trophy wife brags to her friends that it will be easy to handle him and get an inheritance.
On the wedding night, old man walks into the bedroom wearing earplugs, nose plugs, and a condom.
Trophy wife asks what he's doing.
Old man says "I really hate the sound of screaming and the smell of burning rubber."
Trophy wife brags to her friends that it will be easy to handle him and get an inheritance.
On the wedding night, old man walks into the bedroom wearing earplugs, nose plugs, and a condom.
Trophy wife asks what he's doing.
Old man says "I really hate the sound of screaming and the smell of burning rubber."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (Oq5OE)
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Race War Update for today:
Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (73voq)
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Roarke's Drift, part II.
They're bragging about 200 deranged natives intimidating a couple of white families with young children. I guess when that's all you have to brag about ...
Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 09, 2025 11:08 AM (73voq)
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Roarke's Drift, part II.
They're bragging about 200 deranged natives intimidating a couple of white families with young children. I guess when that's all you have to brag about ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 09, 2025 12:03 PM (YqDXo)
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How is it undignified to date a younger woman?
I thnk it depends on the age range. If you're 87 and she's 22, thats pretty undignified and silly looking. If you're 50 and she's 25 that's less so.
I thnk it depends on the age range. If you're 87 and she's 22, thats pretty undignified and silly looking. If you're 50 and she's 25 that's less so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:04 PM (2VST1)
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I mean gosh, what are they going to talk about?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:04 PM (yZCmg)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 12:04 PM (Oq5OE)
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George Burns has just walked in
Posted by: Ben Had at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (NVNRw)
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286 As near as I can tell, he does not have children. That could be a factor in his thinking along with "she's hot".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
He has 3 children.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
He has 3 children.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (pZEOD)
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A young hottie might soften that.
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
As the saying goes, "Money can't buy love... but it can rent it."
Money too.
Mostly money.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 09, 2025 11:52 AM (sMW+k)
As the saying goes, "Money can't buy love... but it can rent it."
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (ExV1e)
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I mean gosh, what are they going to talk about?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
If she's talking, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
If she's talking, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (y6oPX)
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I will never understand the Tesla hate
I hate them and all EVs because the ultimate goal is to force me to have one or worse to force me onto public transportation.
The basic style of governance in America is: all that is not forbidden is compulsory. The idea that I'll be presented with a live-and-let-live choice in which each consumer makes his own choices is a farce.
They want to take away gas stoves. And are obsessed with how much water my toilet and shower are using. Everything is a slippery slope.
So I have to oppose everything. Because if I don't these expensive toys will be the only choice.
I hate them and all EVs because the ultimate goal is to force me to have one or worse to force me onto public transportation.
The basic style of governance in America is: all that is not forbidden is compulsory. The idea that I'll be presented with a live-and-let-live choice in which each consumer makes his own choices is a farce.
They want to take away gas stoves. And are obsessed with how much water my toilet and shower are using. Everything is a slippery slope.
So I have to oppose everything. Because if I don't these expensive toys will be the only choice.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (UGyV5)
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Would Tesla have survived without subsidies until they became first-mover in a small niche market?
Elon would still be playing with tinker toys and erector sets without subsidies. He built his entire empire on government money.
Elon would still be playing with tinker toys and erector sets without subsidies. He built his entire empire on government money.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (2VST1)
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294 When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
Booster seat.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (YSM/
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Basket of chicken fingers and a cola.
Booster seat.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (YSM/
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Basket of chicken fingers and a cola.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (3sj2H)
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Seriously. I mean, I'm 62. If I'm sitting with a 22 yr old, I can't get too pissed if he asks what my daughter or granddaughter would like.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (y6oPX)
I just kind of hate the presumptuousness of it in general. That yucky ingratiating thing where they act like they're personally connected to this group they've never met just because they're in some service relationship temporarily, like they've been my friend for ever and ever...
What's so hard about ".. and for you?" with a nice polite little up-talk at the end so you don't sound too demanding? No relationship assumptions, no dreaded gender or pronoun assumptions, just do your job. A smile and a polite tone is all you need, man. Relax.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (y6oPX)
I just kind of hate the presumptuousness of it in general. That yucky ingratiating thing where they act like they're personally connected to this group they've never met just because they're in some service relationship temporarily, like they've been my friend for ever and ever...
What's so hard about ".. and for you?" with a nice polite little up-talk at the end so you don't sound too demanding? No relationship assumptions, no dreaded gender or pronoun assumptions, just do your job. A smile and a polite tone is all you need, man. Relax.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (yvnLa)
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312 Elon would still be playing with tinker toys and erector sets without subsidies. He built his entire empire on government money.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (2VST1)
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His empire is built on Paypal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:05 PM (2VST1)
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His empire is built on Paypal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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>> I will never understand the Tesla hate.
Shitty, low-quality vehicles with bad panel gaps, pushed by hippies and commies, and subsidized with money stolen from my pocket.
The company wouldn’t exist without massive government intervention. They’re a fake solution for a fake and gay problem.
I favor a $10k /year tax for every EV, to claw back what was stolen from the rest of us.
Shitty, low-quality vehicles with bad panel gaps, pushed by hippies and commies, and subsidized with money stolen from my pocket.
The company wouldn’t exist without massive government intervention. They’re a fake solution for a fake and gay problem.
I favor a $10k /year tax for every EV, to claw back what was stolen from the rest of us.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (l3YAf)
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So I have to oppose everything. Because if I don't these expensive toys will be the only choice.
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This guy gets it.
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This guy gets it.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (yZCmg)
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How is it undignified to date a younger woman? Older men have been doing that since the dawn of history.
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)
It’s not. But… what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach, yet now even longtime players are looking at him saying WTF?!
Posted by: Bulg at May 09, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)
It’s not. But… what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach, yet now even longtime players are looking at him saying WTF?!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (5MZNC)
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On Belichek coaching...you forget what you know best last...see Joe Biden and the last 5 years. Man did not forget the political slights he received...
So, Bill could coach...and be becoming incompetent elsewhere...
See the old actors who start abusing young actresses out of character - they are starting down the dementia road, losing control of inhibitions 1st...
So, Bill could coach...and be becoming incompetent elsewhere...
See the old actors who start abusing young actresses out of character - they are starting down the dementia road, losing control of inhibitions 1st...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (tOcjL)
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When the waiter asks what your daughter would like, you've went too young.
Booster seat.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (YSM/
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I was attending a scientific conference when I had a breakfast with a younger female direct report. She ordered chocolate milk. The waiter gave me a side look.
"Hey, we're both married, but NOT to each other."
Booster seat.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (YSM/
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I was attending a scientific conference when I had a breakfast with a younger female direct report. She ordered chocolate milk. The waiter gave me a side look.
"Hey, we're both married, but NOT to each other."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (YqDXo)
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Look, it was just a bad call I made, the billions plowed into EV production. Alright?
So while 2/3rds of our valued employees can go start new lives as Door Dash drivers or whatever, I have to face the other global multinational CEOs at our clubs and feel their fake pity.
So while 2/3rds of our valued employees can go start new lives as Door Dash drivers or whatever, I have to face the other global multinational CEOs at our clubs and feel their fake pity.
Posted by: Ford CEO Jim Farley at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (Aqu9a)
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How is it undignified to date a younger woman?
I thnk it depends on the age range. If you're 87 and she's 22, thats pretty undignified and silly looking. If you're 50 and she's 25 that's less so.
I think it's that you're announcing to the world that you are dating a prostitute. Young women don't look at wrinkled oldsters and think "hawt". They think "cha-ching".
I thnk it depends on the age range. If you're 87 and she's 22, thats pretty undignified and silly looking. If you're 50 and she's 25 that's less so.
I think it's that you're announcing to the world that you are dating a prostitute. Young women don't look at wrinkled oldsters and think "hawt". They think "cha-ching".
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (s8j++)
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Maduro, every time he was shown, had his fingers put together as in prayer, and a stern weird look on his face. Odd f***er. Xi had his fixed inscrutable smile/poker face. Abbas was hunkered down covering part of his head with a scarf or something, weird. The translators for Xi and Abbas could be heard in the background while Putin was speaking. And a kid in the top row of the grandstand behind Putin was doing things 10-yr old boys do, finally they changed the shot. Lots of production foibles, but the T-34s looked great.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 09, 2025 12:07 PM (1m82a)
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I like the unspoken part where women who are eligible to vote are also incapable of engaging in adult relationships.
Whoops! Whoopsies!
Whoops! Whoopsies!
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:07 PM (yZCmg)
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Why is it "Musk backlash" and not "left wing backlash"?
Posted by: ... at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (gt60b)
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That is my dream company. A business that builds modern "restomod" type cars with old car body designs. Especially from dead companies like Studebaker, Pierce-Arrow, Tucker, Hudson, etc. But with modern ride, features, engines, etc. They'd be hella expensive, but so sweet looking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Exactly! And with people paying $80k+ for an off the rack pickup, people would pay for a classic with current features.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Exactly! And with people paying $80k+ for an off the rack pickup, people would pay for a classic with current features.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (y6oPX)
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It’s not. But… what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach, yet now even longtime players are looking at him saying WTF?!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at
She is stopping interviews, telling people they can’t have access to him unless they go through her, they must respect her, etc. It’s more than dating. She seems…special.
It’s not. But… what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach, yet now even longtime players are looking at him saying WTF?!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at
She is stopping interviews, telling people they can’t have access to him unless they go through her, they must respect her, etc. It’s more than dating. She seems…special.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (pZEOD)
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His empire is built on Paypal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
That was a big initial source of money, but he’s the world’s richest man because of Obama and Biden’s faggy climate change handouts. Who knows where he’d be without that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
That was a big initial source of money, but he’s the world’s richest man because of Obama and Biden’s faggy climate change handouts. Who knows where he’d be without that?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (l3YAf)
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She is stopping interviews, telling people they can’t have access to him unless they go through her, they must respect her, etc. It’s more than dating. She seems…special.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (pZEOD)
The word is...abusive.
She is stopping interviews, telling people they can’t have access to him unless they go through her, they must respect her, etc. It’s more than dating. She seems…special.
Posted by: Piper at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (pZEOD)
The word is...abusive.
Posted by: Nova Local at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (tOcjL)
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Katherine McPhee and David Foster got married in 2019 and have a son. There is a 35 year age difference.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 12:09 PM (VofaG)
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That is my dream company. A business that builds modern "restomod" type cars with old car body designs. Especially from dead companies like Studebaker, Pierce-Arrow, Tucker, Hudson, etc. But with modern ride, features, engines, etc. They'd be hella expensive, but so sweet looking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (2VST1)
There are custom shops that do exactly that. They are called "restomods". Upwards of a hundred G's.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (2VST1)
There are custom shops that do exactly that. They are called "restomods". Upwards of a hundred G's.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:09 PM (WUoYt)
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I like the unspoken part where women who are eligible to vote are also incapable of engaging in adult relationships.
Same for men. A 19 year old can vote but the average 19 year old today isn't mature enough to own a bicycle, let alone marriage.
Same for men. A 19 year old can vote but the average 19 year old today isn't mature enough to own a bicycle, let alone marriage.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:09 PM (2VST1)
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But… what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach
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So far as I know Saban is still married to Ms. Terry.
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So far as I know Saban is still married to Ms. Terry.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie -Women, you're pretty in feminine dresses and men like seeing you dressed up at May 09, 2025 12:09 PM (yZCmg)
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328 His empire is built on Paypal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
That was a big initial source of money, but he’s the world’s richest man because of Obama and Biden’s faggy climate change handouts. Who knows where he’d be without that?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (l3YAf)
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If we want to extend the metaphor, I'd say that Paypal is the foundation, and then the government grants for things like SpaceX and Tesla (well, more like subsidies in the latter) are the house on top of it.
His empire was built on Paypal as the base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
That was a big initial source of money, but he’s the world’s richest man because of Obama and Biden’s faggy climate change handouts. Who knows where he’d be without that?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:08 PM (l3YAf)
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If we want to extend the metaphor, I'd say that Paypal is the foundation, and then the government grants for things like SpaceX and Tesla (well, more like subsidies in the latter) are the house on top of it.
His empire was built on Paypal as the base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
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>> I think it's that you're announcing to the world that you are dating a prostitute.
All women want resources from men.
A prostitute’s not someone you pay for sex, it’s someone you pay to leave afterwards.
All women want resources from men.
A prostitute’s not someone you pay for sex, it’s someone you pay to leave afterwards.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (l3YAf)
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Nood.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (ExV1e)
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One of those Lightnings in April was my neighbor. I now have two neighbors with Lightnings... live right across the street from each other.
I'm glad I'm about 200' away so when the inevitably EV fires happen, I at least have a fighting chance of protecting my property.
I'm glad I'm about 200' away so when the inevitably EV fires happen, I at least have a fighting chance of protecting my property.
Posted by: Defenestratus at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (WYStd)
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I like the unspoken part where women who are eligible to vote are also incapable of engaging in adult relationships.
Nobody said they couldn't. But people will conclude it's a fiscal arrangement because that's almost always what it is. It's foolish to pretend otherwise.
Nobody said they couldn't. But people will conclude it's a fiscal arrangement because that's almost always what it is. It's foolish to pretend otherwise.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (s8j++)
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There are custom shops that do exactly that. They are called "restomods".
Yeah, but this would be different. This wouldn't take an existing car and work on it. This would be building from the ground up previous models brand new, customized for modern features, so you get the body, but purpose-built for modern tech. 6 figures, minimum but works of art.
Yeah, but this would be different. This wouldn't take an existing car and work on it. This would be building from the ground up previous models brand new, customized for modern features, so you get the body, but purpose-built for modern tech. 6 figures, minimum but works of art.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:11 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: kallisto at May 09, 2025 12:11 PM (dCxaZ)
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It’s not. But… what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach, yet now even longtime players are looking at him saying WTF?!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (5MZNC)
Meh. He's just some sort of sportsball personality. Who gives a shit?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 09, 2025 12:06 PM (5MZNC)
Meh. He's just some sort of sportsball personality. Who gives a shit?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:12 PM (WUoYt)
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We have marked spaces for "green" cars but I don't think they care anymore because I see SUVs and F250s parked there often. The "green" spaces don't bother me because we also have some really nice spots reserved for trucks and SUVs.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:05 AM (hVVER)
The local National Guard armory here has two SOLAR charging stations next to the building entrance, with motorized solar arrays that track the sun.
Kind of an expensive way to label the best parking space "Company Commander Parking Only"
We have marked spaces for "green" cars but I don't think they care anymore because I see SUVs and F250s parked there often. The "green" spaces don't bother me because we also have some really nice spots reserved for trucks and SUVs.
Posted by: mishdog at May 09, 2025 11:05 AM (hVVER)
The local National Guard armory here has two SOLAR charging stations next to the building entrance, with motorized solar arrays that track the sun.
Kind of an expensive way to label the best parking space "Company Commander Parking Only"
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 09, 2025 12:12 PM (y9nCu)
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Here’s a little energy storage joke:
Q: Are sodium ion batteries coming soon?
A: Na...
Interesting. Cheaper (but larger and heavier) and they don't catch fire. Makes you wonder why Moss Landing didn't look into this. Big Lithium must have some sort of hold on industry.
Q: Are sodium ion batteries coming soon?
A: Na...
Interesting. Cheaper (but larger and heavier) and they don't catch fire. Makes you wonder why Moss Landing didn't look into this. Big Lithium must have some sort of hold on industry.
Posted by: t-bird at May 09, 2025 12:13 PM (n9MHj)
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Even the flashy Korean evs are imploding:
Kia
EV6 -68% april - april, but -28% ytd
EV9 -85% april - april, but -29% ytd
which due to the small # sold is only a -1% drop to their overall ytd sales
Hyundai (fares probably the best)
ioniq 5 -8% april - april, but +14% ytd
inoiq 6 -12% april - april, but -10% ytd
which due to the small # sold is only a -0.4% drop to their overall ytd sales
Kia
EV6 -68% april - april, but -28% ytd
EV9 -85% april - april, but -29% ytd
which due to the small # sold is only a -1% drop to their overall ytd sales
Hyundai (fares probably the best)
ioniq 5 -8% april - april, but +14% ytd
inoiq 6 -12% april - april, but -10% ytd
which due to the small # sold is only a -0.4% drop to their overall ytd sales
Posted by: kerncon at May 09, 2025 12:13 PM (kwice)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 09, 2025 12:13 PM (XeU6L)
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His empire was built on Paypal as the base.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
Its more complicated than just that. Lot of mergers, buyouts , risking his fortune to date at the time to start Space X ( which was prior to Tesla), etc.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 09, 2025 12:10 PM (GBKbO)
Its more complicated than just that. Lot of mergers, buyouts , risking his fortune to date at the time to start Space X ( which was prior to Tesla), etc.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 09, 2025 12:13 PM (VofaG)
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Rule of thumb for guys:
Half your age plus 5.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 12:04 PM (Oq5OE)
*does math*
Good news, Sydney Sweeney!
Half your age plus 5.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 09, 2025 12:04 PM (Oq5OE)
*does math*
Good news, Sydney Sweeney!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 09, 2025 12:14 PM (l3YAf)
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Tesla Model Y : 1.2 million
Best selling SUV: Toyota RAV4 1.02 million
Best selling pickup: Ford F-Series 903k
Posted by: krennik
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Wait, did you move the goalposts to worldwide? Why would we care or discuss what communist China or socialist Euro countries are requiring their subjects to purchase?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
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No moving of goalposts. All of the above data is world-wide. You may not care about worldwide, but it is relevant to discussion.
I asked Grok:
what is the best selling car of any type in the world.
ans: Tesla Model Y
what is the best selling car of any type in China.
ans: Tesla Model Y (by a very tiny margin)
what is the best selling car of any type in the United States
ans: Toyota RAV4
My original point is that the media reporting of Tesla 's troubles are overwrought and wishful thinking.
Best selling SUV: Toyota RAV4 1.02 million
Best selling pickup: Ford F-Series 903k
Posted by: krennik
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Wait, did you move the goalposts to worldwide? Why would we care or discuss what communist China or socialist Euro countries are requiring their subjects to purchase?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie
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No moving of goalposts. All of the above data is world-wide. You may not care about worldwide, but it is relevant to discussion.
I asked Grok:
what is the best selling car of any type in the world.
ans: Tesla Model Y
what is the best selling car of any type in China.
ans: Tesla Model Y (by a very tiny margin)
what is the best selling car of any type in the United States
ans: Toyota RAV4
My original point is that the media reporting of Tesla 's troubles are overwrought and wishful thinking.
Posted by: krennik at May 09, 2025 12:14 PM (Mu170)
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Group of black militants decide to confront white families at a playground, screaming epithets.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
Who needs 30 round magazines?
Seven mags is baseload. Thank you.
https://x.com/NationalAware/status/1920670020532670913
What absolute cowards. From birth they are raised to hate white people. They're raising armies and this will escalate.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
Who needs 30 round magazines?
Seven mags is baseload. Thank you.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 09, 2025 12:14 PM (zhin0)
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what Belichick is doing is undignified. He was (and is) the GOAT coach, yet now even longtime players are looking at him saying WTF?!
Are any of those players 72 years old, single, and wealthy?
Are any of those players 72 years old, single, and wealthy?
Posted by: t-bird at May 09, 2025 12:15 PM (n9MHj)
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Yeah, but this would be different. This wouldn't take an existing car and work on it. This would be building from the ground up previous models brand new, customized for modern features, so you get the body, but purpose-built for modern tech. 6 figures, minimum but works of art.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:11 PM (2VST1)
There are restomods built exactly like that. All new parts, body panels included. $$$$
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 09, 2025 12:11 PM (2VST1)
There are restomods built exactly like that. All new parts, body panels included. $$$$
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 09, 2025 12:15 PM (WUoYt)
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Young women don't look at wrinkled oldsters and think "hawt". They think "cha-ching".
It's 2025, they think "cha-ching" about guys their own age too.
It's 2025, they think "cha-ching" about guys their own age too.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 09, 2025 12:15 PM (2ocoG)
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To be fair, there was the whole 1973 Arab-Israeli war and subsequent Arab oil embargo.
It wasn't all Bretton Woods.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (ctrM5)
There is a theory that wars become inevitable when the international clearing of debt becomes threatened, it is one of those ultimate moves of trying to defer or default on payments. As a theory it is distrusted and the argument against it is that correlation is not causation, but there is some correlation.
1973 was a very strange year, it is almost one of those years where everything changed. I was seven and only noticed the gas lines and the fact that Mom was pissed because she couldn't get canning lids.
It wasn't all Bretton Woods.
Posted by: whig at May 09, 2025 12:02 PM (ctrM5)
There is a theory that wars become inevitable when the international clearing of debt becomes threatened, it is one of those ultimate moves of trying to defer or default on payments. As a theory it is distrusted and the argument against it is that correlation is not causation, but there is some correlation.
1973 was a very strange year, it is almost one of those years where everything changed. I was seven and only noticed the gas lines and the fact that Mom was pissed because she couldn't get canning lids.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 09, 2025 12:16 PM (D7oie)
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254
‘ She really did a job on him.
Does he have any Family ? They should stage an intervention...’
I don’t think Bill would want his family showing up while that was going on.
‘ She really did a job on him.
Does he have any Family ? They should stage an intervention...’
I don’t think Bill would want his family showing up while that was going on.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at May 09, 2025 12:18 PM (jbnUc)
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The majority of these things will sit decaying or eventually catching fire. Either way , causing long-term environmental toxicity!
Posted by: Unkaren at May 09, 2025 12:30 PM (16w5m)
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Lol
Total EV sales this year are .7.5% of all new car sales in the USA 1st quarter
Up a bit from last year's first quarter of 7%
Total EVs sold 1st quarter 300000
Projected 2025 sales 1,4 million sold in USA
That will mean 10% of all light vehicles sold in USA will be EVs
EV sales are increasing steadily as a percent of vehicles sold
Also
Old people are continuing to die off.
Total EV sales this year are .7.5% of all new car sales in the USA 1st quarter
Up a bit from last year's first quarter of 7%
Total EVs sold 1st quarter 300000
Projected 2025 sales 1,4 million sold in USA
That will mean 10% of all light vehicles sold in USA will be EVs
EV sales are increasing steadily as a percent of vehicles sold
Also
Old people are continuing to die off.
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 09, 2025 12:57 PM (XVEWo)
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77 I'd also kind of like to buy a Tesla Cyber truck just to piss off liberals.
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
It reminds me of the LandMaster vehicle from "Damnation Alley".
Posted by: Reforger at May 09, 2025 11:21 AM (xcIvR)
They have an odd kind of brutal cool. It is also the tires and how they present from the side of the vehicle. It has a very... boy cool look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 09, 2025 11:23 AM (bss/y)
It reminds me of the LandMaster vehicle from "Damnation Alley".
Posted by: The Osprey at May 09, 2025 01:00 PM (QAykW)
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Lol
Whoever politically biased posts on cars go up
I always think back to all those doom forecasters who believed that when Obama loaned GM 38 billion and saved it, how do many Obama haters immediately had to begin screaming theat it was wasted money that GM would never pay it back
Anyone else recall that ?
Whoever politically biased posts on cars go up
I always think back to all those doom forecasters who believed that when Obama loaned GM 38 billion and saved it, how do many Obama haters immediately had to begin screaming theat it was wasted money that GM would never pay it back
Anyone else recall that ?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 09, 2025 01:01 PM (XVEWo)
359
Buck just can't bring himself to say that total US EV sales are increasing
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 09, 2025 01:02 PM (XVEWo)
360
359 Buck just can't bring himself to say that total US EV sales are increasing
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 09, 2025 01:02 PM (XVEWo)
It seems like every third car here in the Phoenix metro is one o' them Tesslers now. When I go out to my dad's place in Western NC every third car is a Subaru. And there aren't that many lesbians there, except in Asheville.
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at May 09, 2025 01:02 PM (XVEWo)
It seems like every third car here in the Phoenix metro is one o' them Tesslers now. When I go out to my dad's place in Western NC every third car is a Subaru. And there aren't that many lesbians there, except in Asheville.
Posted by: The Osprey at May 09, 2025 01:22 PM (QAykW)
361
Maybe there's just a ceiling for EV sales, especially now that mandates are being rescinded.
Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at May 09, 2025 02:22 PM (frFr1)
362
Ford tries to redesign and resell the Edsel again
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 09, 2025 05:38 PM (wGqjj)
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