Tuesday Overnight Open Thread - May 13, 2025 [scampydog]

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Good evening, and welcome to the Tuesday ONT. Put your arms through the sleeves of your lab coat. It is time for some ONT space and science with our AoSHQ friend and commenter, publius. Open thread - feel free to run with scissors, talk about any topic, or be the rebel that opens the milk carton on the wrong side.

With an eye toward brains and tradition, we are leading off with a quote from Feynman - science street cred.

We have found it of paramount importance that in order to progress we must recognize our ignorance and leave room for doubt. Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty-some most unsure, some nearly sure, but none absolutely certain. Richard P. Feynman

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Failed Soviet spacecraft - Kosmos 482, launched in 1972 as part of the Venera Program, crashed into the Indian Ocean after 53 year of orbit.

Being built to survive passage through Venus' atmosphere means that if the 1,091-pound (495 kilograms), 3-foot (1 meter) lander is recovered it will likely be mostly intact. Under a United Nations treaty, any surviving debris from the spaceship will belong to Russia.

publius
Speaking of Kosmos 482, you may remember some Six Million Dollar Man episodes where Steve had to fight a rogue Russian Venus probe that accidentally crashed in the US and thought it was on Venus.

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Don Pettit returned to earth on April 20th.

"A week ago, I was on station, and I was doing really heavy squats, I was doing dead lifts, I could float around with the greatest of ease, even though I had no trapeze," he said. "I was at the peak of my game. And then you come back to Earth, and it's like, God, I can't even get up from the floor anymore. It's humbling. But it isn't about the large muscle groups. It's about the little, tiny muscles that everybody forgets about because they're just there and they work. When you're in weightlessness, these muscles don't work anymore. And they take a six-month vacation until you come back to Earth. And now, all of a sudden, they start groaning and talking to you, and it takes a while to get all these little muscles tuned back up to being an Earthling."

publius
He returned on his 70th birthday, Russian time zone. Watching the Soyuz recovery, I noticed they didn't show Don at all. Turns out the reason was he was puking his guts out, poor guy. He's said he's one of the worst about returning to 1g; it messes him up big time, and it takes him several days to feel human again as he puts it. This was probably Don's last mission -- he hasn't mentioned retiring from NASA yet, and I imagine he'll continue to work for a good while, but on Earth, not in space.

Here's an article with a picture of Don being carried off from the Soyuz. You can see he looks a little rough.

publius shared this fun Don and Suni dancing video.

“Two Steppin on the Moon”; Country Western singer Josh Turner @joshturnermusic visited Houston Mission Control and sang us this song. Suni Williams and I decided to give it a try while Butch Wilmore filmed the effort. Here is “Two Steppin in Space”.

Big thanks to Josh Turner… pic.twitter.com/PVQJOYz0H1
— Don Pettit (@astro_Pettit) April 16, 2025

publius
There's a famous "dancing on the ceiling" scene with Fred Astaire.

It was filmed in a rotating set. A room was constructed inside a large drum, which rotated with the camera fixed to the drum.

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Picture in the link below looks eerily similar to the Space Invaders. I'm not saying that Atari knows aliens, but aliens.

Lone Black Hole

Prior to this new finding, all the black holes that have been identified have also had a companion star-they are discovered due to their impact on light emitted by their companion star. Without such a companion star, it would be very difficult to see a black hole. The one identified by the team was only noticed because it passed in front of a distant non-companion star, magnifying its light and shifting its position in the sky for a short while.

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Now, the lone, or rogue black hole problem. It's a scary thought. If a black hole is quiet, it's not feeding on anything to give off light, one could be lurking out there and we wouldn't see it. So, you imagine what if a stellar mass one is on a collision course with the solar system. If it get too close, it would wreak havoc, planets, including earth, having their orbits perturbed or even ejected. Fortunately, the odds of this are very low, given what they think the black hole population is in the galaxy. Turns out the odds of this are 0.04% over the remaining 5 billion year lifetime of the Sun. Far higher, although still low in the absolute sense, is a passing star getting close enough to perturb the Oort Cloud a bit, and send a bunch of comets raining in the inner solar system years later.

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ONT brings you Physics News!

Resonance, the amplification of waves at specific frequencies, underpins many everyday technologies, including smartphones, ultrasound imaging, and radio systems. However, conventional resonators gradually dissipate energy, requiring continuous input to sustain their operation.
Nearly 100 years ago, Nobel Prize winners John von Neumann and Eugene Wigner introduced a radical idea: under specific conditions, it might be possible for waves to remain confined indefinitely, without leaking energy. These so-called bound states in the continuum (BIC) are akin to whirlpools that stay fixed in place, even as a river flows around them. Yet for decades, scientists assumed such states could not exist within a compact, single-resonator system-until now.

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Soon dilithium crystals.

Nuclear Powered Spacecraft

The Exlabs-Antares partnership "pairs two companies with an ambitious vision and pragmatic roadmaps to bring space nuclear technologies to bear," Will Madsen, Antares head of mission engineering, said in a statement. "For too long, space nuclear power has solely existed in conceptual studies - now it's time to build."

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Now, nuclear propulsion. The ultimate is something dubbed the Epstein Drive, after a fictional character on the sci-fi show The Expanse. Here's the scene showing how the inventor, Solomon Epstein, accidentally hit the mother load on fusion rocket efficiency. His test fusion hot-rod spaceship had a wonky voice interface, so he shut off the voice control. When he fired it up, the thrust was so great he was pulling too many g's to move, and so killed his fool self, strapped in under high g unable to turn off the engine:

What's interesting about this is it's possible with known physics. It ain't Star Trek warp drive using unknown physics. While the physics works, it's just the engineering of something like this is well beyond current capability. Power output would be in the TW range, 10s of TW. The exhaust blast would energetic indeed, and you'd be vaporized in you got behind the ass end of the thing. It would be impossible to fire it on the ground or in the atmosphere, as it would be like setting off a string of tactical nukes continuously. But it would work in space fine, minimum safe distance around 50 miles or so.

This would open up the entire solar system to traffic, reducing voyage times to earth-like trips. You would use constant acceleration trajectories, rather than free fall delta-v based orbital trajectories. You'd accelerate at 1g toward your target till you got about half-way, then turn around and decelerate at 1g.

Travel times would be about 2.5 hours to the Moon, 1.5 days to Mars, Jupiter in 4 days, Saturn in 6, and Pluto in 13 days. And this also solves the weightless problem. You'd be accelerating at 1g the whole time, save for brief periods of stopping and starting.

Something like this is conceivable with fusion reactions. Most fusion produces neutrons, which are hard to deal with, as there's no neutron mirror, something you can push against -- they just rip through everything and you can't direct the energy. However, there are a few that produce mostly charged particles for the products and you can imagine EM field "thrust plates", using superconducting magnets and ridiculously strong electric fields.

In rocket lingo, the efficiency of a rocket is dubbed specific impulse, which is just the ratio of thrust to mass flow rate, which is exhaust velocity, although, common practice is to express the mass flow in g-based weight, so the units are time, seconds. The most efficient chemical rockets we have are about 450 s. The Epstein drive would have exhaust velocities around 10% c, and specific impulse around 100K to 1 million. IOW, orders of magnitude more efficient. Note how this is achieved, throwing a little bit of mass out the tailpipe at high speed vs a lot of mass at slow speed.

If Elon figures that out, the solar system is now our backyard.

Big ONT thanks to publius for the knowledge and contributions.

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Any of the Horde mastered curing/making homemade bacon?

There is some science behind the wet and dry methods of curing.

But salt also penetrates the meat. Salt (NaCl) is a very tiny molecule with only two atoms, sodium (Na) and chloride (Cl). It easily splits into sodium and chlorine ions when it gets wet and they get electrified and easily penetrate the pores and membranes.
Nitrite is also a small molecule, NO2, with three atoms, one nitrogen (N) and two oxygens (O). Nitrite breaks down into nitric oxide (NO) and binds to the iron atom (Fe) in myoglobin in the meat. Myoglobin is the protein that gives meat its red color. The chemical process is similar to the process that causes the pink smoke ring in smoked meats and it gives cured meat its characteristic pink color.

Scanned The Deplorable Gourmet cookbook for a homemade bacon recipe but the driNks section tripped me.

Not linking any recipes, but did find this amazing site:

Bacon Festival and Events Directory

Bacon Curing - a Historical Review. Long read, bookmark it for later.

Great clip!
You all ever ate vegan bacon? pic.twitter.com/1d3u4VqUEA
— YourFavWestVirginian (@WVfunnyguy) May 4, 2025

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I used to see a tool. I'll never look at my staple gun the same way.

Physics. pic.twitter.com/imRbgh3hbv
— SULLY (@SULLY10X) May 4, 2025

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It's science. Gary and Wyatt told me so.

Close enough to science, song does use the word sun. It's about drug use, not what many think it about.

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This ONT brought to you by turning in foul balls and getting a snow cone in a thimble sized cup.

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1 Yay, Cough Drop Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 13, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok)

2 A♠, the place to be.
Naturally.

Posted by: mindful webworker - soon at May 13, 2025 10:00 PM (Ko0fO)

3 Thought it said AOC.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:00 PM (0eaVi)

4 Just a few keyboard errors and First slips away.

Calling the otters.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sign at May 13, 2025 10:01 PM (Ko0fO)

5 Top 10?

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at May 13, 2025 10:01 PM (hftn9)

6 * looks at opening meme *

* looks at the Cafe thread *

OK, doggo, give Ace back the time-machine keys.

Posted by: mikeski at May 13, 2025 10:01 PM (DgGvY)

7 Sorry I'm late, I couldn't decide between a Halls or a Ricola.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 13, 2025 10:02 PM (TjpHE)

8 Greetings Everyone

Had an excellent hike this morning in the Orchard Hills above Irvine. Temps in the low 60's, partly cloudy. Six miles and 750' elevation gain in just over two hours.

I didn't want to get up this morning but once I was on the trail it was highly rewarding. Saw two bunnies and a squirrel. Someone else said they saw a big skunk.

Hope all is well and no more boomer bashing! LOL!

Well, off to read content. See you all later.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:03 PM (QGaXH)

9 Much cromulent content!
Thanks Scampy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - THIS Year in Corsicana - again at May 13, 2025 10:03 PM (hOUT3)

10 So was Feynman saying that the only thing settled in science is thst NOTHING is settled?

Posted by: tankdemon at May 13, 2025 10:04 PM (TjpHE)

11 Ricola.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:04 PM (OzWW4)

12 {{{{Hrothgar!!!}}}}

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:04 PM (IQ6Gq)

13 I didn't mean to kill the thread...sorry

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:06 PM (IQ6Gq)

14 2 A♠, the place to be.
Naturally.
Posted by: mindful webworker - soon at May 13, 2025 10:00 PM (Ko0fO)

Let's not get too caught up in "naturally."

Posted by: American Society of Plastic Surgeons at May 13, 2025 10:06 PM (TjpHE)

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Re the upside down Moon from last thread. Notice how Fred appears to be circling around the ceiling light in opposite directions. That's because the camera is upside down, changing your local reference frame's up and down and your reference for clockwise and counterclockwise.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 13, 2025 10:07 PM (w6EFb)

16 Now with organic whole grains.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:07 PM (OzWW4)

17 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 10:07 PM (sAmhv)

18 Thanks for the dandy and physics-y ONT, scampydog!

Interesting as always.

Hubby turns yucky pork belly into delicious bacon. It's marvelous!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 13, 2025 10:07 PM (rxCpr)

19 "Good evening, and welcome to the Tuesday ONT. Put your arms through the sleeves of your lab coat. It is time for some ONT space and science with our AoSHQ friend and commenter, publius."

Science is mean! (runs away sobbing)

Posted by: Michelle Fields at May 13, 2025 10:08 PM (i0F8b)

20 Why is the staples thing physics, as opposed to geometry or autism?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 13, 2025 10:08 PM (DL7HR)

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Hello, all!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 13, 2025 10:08 PM (n7rxJ)

22 Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe are now eligible for the baseball HOF. Don't expect Rose to get in, but maybe Shoeless Joe.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:08 PM (0eaVi)

23 Sciencey stuff...I'm lost.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:09 PM (TfUTr)

24 I was told I could have a stapler.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:09 PM (OzWW4)

25 OK, doggo, give Ace back the time-machine keys.
Posted by: mikeski
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I'd say, "Catch me if you can," but the cardio is not in my favor. Good evening, Horde.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:09 PM (41CYW)

26 Sciencey stuff...I'm lost.
Posted by: Some Rat
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Being lost will be remedied next Tuesday. And good to see you, Some Rat.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:11 PM (41CYW)

27 Why is the staples thing physics, as opposed to geometry or autism?

Maybe that many staples arranged in that manner creates a critical nuclear mass?

Posted by: Archer at May 13, 2025 10:11 PM (IDphi)

28 I was told I could have a stapler.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Yes, and you can listen to your radio for 15 min. if you keep the volume to a reasonable level.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:11 PM (TfUTr)

29 This ONT has rendered me blind.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 13, 2025 10:12 PM (TjpHE)

30 I suppose it is too soon to be discussing the Alcubierre drive or Casimir vacuum.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 10:12 PM (D7oie)

31 No SpaceX launch tonight. There is one planned for tomorrow midday (EDT).

Here's hoping Ciampino is home before the next Rocket Lab launch in a few days.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:12 PM (VNX3d)

32 Great content ScampyD

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at May 13, 2025 10:13 PM (Sy3PS)

33 This is the most geeky ONT ever!

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at May 13, 2025 10:13 PM (RIvkX)

34 I'm kind of partial to Bissell vaccuums.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (OzWW4)

35 As the ONT scrolled opening on mobile I thought I saw "Bacon Curious" in there. Yes, I admit, I'm bacon-curious.

Posted by: TBall at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (AN+ve)

36 I could put strychnine in the guacamole.

Posted by: Archer at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (IDphi)

37 There's a common topic missing in the top diagram. Stacy Abrams, black hole or money pit.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (VNX3d)

38 Took a trip into Oak Ridge today. As luck would have it, they were all out of (U-235), (Pu-239), and (U-233) so I was unable to secure any for you all.

But, they had plenty of Illudium Q-36 on hand should anyone need any for their Explosive Space Modulator project.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (cYBz/)

39 Good evening morons y gracias scampydog y publius

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (RIvkX)

40 Posted by: scampydog

Thank you! And an even bigger thank you for a wonderful ONT!

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:15 PM (TfUTr)

41 Does anyone know if Ciampino was discharged from the hospital and actually made it home?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

42
He's home

Posted by: four seasons at May 13, 2025 10:15 PM (3ek7K)

43 I could put strychnine in the guacamole.
Posted by: Archer at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (IDphi)

Try . . . Try grilling the avocados first.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 10:15 PM (D7oie)

44 I'm kind of partial to Bissell vaccuums.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (OzWW4)

Named after the actor, Whit Bissell. He of Trouble with Tribbles.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)

45
He said he'll update us later

Posted by: four seasons at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (3ek7K)

46 /Waiting to hear the physics of a cat scratch.

Posted by: davidt at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (i0F8b)

47 All sports is now run as a "legal" gambling book and they kept Rose out until after his death.

Redounds to baseball's everlasting shame. Shame.

Posted by: Mother Angelica at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (G5+As)

48 Try . . . Try grilling the avocados first.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Well played.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (41CYW)

49 Neil De Greasy Tyson Chicken is well qualified to be a planetarium director. I say this from in-person direct experience.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:17 PM (0M7jv)

50 There's a common topic missing in the top diagram. Stacy Abrams, black hole or money pit.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

AOC: Facts go in....never to be seen again.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:17 PM (TfUTr)

51 Evening Horde, thx scampydog.
Physics, chemistry , astrophysics, engineering and math. This Smart Military Blog sure is smaaht

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 13, 2025 10:17 PM (2ZThz)

52 All sports is now run as a "legal" gambling book and they kept Rose out until after his death.

Redounds to baseball's everlasting shame. Shame.
Posted by: Mother Angelica at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (G5+As)

Yep. Guess they had to wait so they wouldn't look too hypocritical.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (0eaVi)

53 Why is the staples thing physics, as opposed to geometry or autism?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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I have the same question

Posted by: lin-duh at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (VCgbV)

54 Thanks four seasons...very glad to hear he is home again...I'll check back again in the am as I need to head to bed due to early morning demands....night all...

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

55 ButtJizz is in Iowa.

He's running.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (W5ArC)

56 Named after the actor, Whit Bissell. He of Trouble with Tribbles.
Posted by: OrangeEnt As opposed to Ted Bessell who starred in That Girl and Me And The Chimp.

Posted by: Donald Hollinger at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (G5+As)

57 I suppose it is too soon to be discussing the Alcubierre drive or Casimir vacuum.
Posted by: Kindltot

I saw Casimir Vacuum open for Marianne Amplifier at The Orbit in '04.

https://youtu.be/vn6YfihCc04

Posted by: mikeski at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (DgGvY)

58 10 So was Feynman saying that the only thing settled in science is thst NOTHING is settled?
Posted by: tankdemon

HERESY!!! THE SCIENCE HAS SPOKEN, HEATHEN!!! DEATH TO THE DOUBTER OF KLIMATE CHANGE!!! YOUR CHAKRA IS EVIL AND DARK!!!

Posted by: High Druid Priest Al Gore at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (sAmhv)

59 10 So was Feynman saying that the only thing settled in science is thst NOTHING is settled?
Posted by: tankdemon at May 13, 2025 10:04 PM (TjpHE)

Newtons laws of motion were considered settled science for centuries until Einstein came along and said 'hold my beer'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:19 PM (QGaXH)

60 Science is never finished.

Posted by: Don Black at May 13, 2025 10:20 PM (AOsQT)

61 Newtons laws of motion were considered settled science for centuries until Einstein came along and said 'hold my beer'
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:19 PM (QGaXH)

I don't give a fig.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:20 PM (0eaVi)

62 > 55 ButtJizz is in Iowa.

P.S. to Mayor Pete: you may think that new beard makes you look macho, but in fact it makes you look even gayer than before.

You know how it's always easy to tell a gay man wearing a construction worker costume from a real construction worker? Like in the Village People?

Same thing..

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 13, 2025 10:20 PM (W5ArC)

63 Geeky enough to hold my attention as good as cat antics.

Posted by: Eromero at May 13, 2025 10:20 PM (LHPAg)

64 58 10 So was Feynman saying that the only thing settled in science is thst NOTHING is settled?
Posted by: tankdemon

HERESY!!! THE SCIENCE HAS SPOKEN, HEATHEN!!! DEATH TO THE DOUBTER OF KLIMATE CHANGE!!! YOUR CHAKRA IS EVIL AND DARK!!!
Posted by: High Druid Priest Al Gore at May 13, 2025 10:18 PM (sAmhv)

So taxes are not certain? That will scare most politicians!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:21 PM (VNX3d)

65 *looks at last clip*

*acknowledges that big hands is, indeed, the one*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 13, 2025 10:21 PM (Wnv9h)

66 15
Re the upside down Moon from last thread. Notice how Fred appears to be circling around the ceiling light in opposite directions. That's because the camera is upside down, changing your local reference frame's up and down and your reference for clockwise and counterclockwise.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 13, 2025 10:07 PM (w6EFb)

I wonder how they kept the chair he sits on in the beginning in place. Notice he moves it around with ease so it's not nailed to the floor.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:21 PM (QGaXH)

67 I ain't likely smart enough to be on this thread, but I'll hang around to bring the composite IQ down to an acceptable level.

Posted by: Substandard at May 13, 2025 10:21 PM (G5+As)

68 Good evening, good people, from the Adirondacks where the start of a delightful temperature week has begun.

Adding to that, may all effort from you result in maximum benefit to you, and ultimate heartburn from the leftwit fungi plaguing us.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at May 13, 2025 10:21 PM (hKoQL)

69

ButtJizz must be the bearded woman in that marriage.

I think I'm gonna puke.

Posted by: four seasons at May 13, 2025 10:22 PM (3ek7K)

70 68 We have some of your chairs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:22 PM (OzWW4)

71 Waiting to hear the physics of a cat scratch.
Posted by: davidt

The cats claw is an inclined surface on two planes. The retraction of the extensor muscle in the cats foreleg cause the "claw" to plow through the surface it is deployed on.
This results in "Ow".

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:22 PM (TfUTr)

72 22 Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe are now eligible for the baseball HOF. Don't expect Rose to get in, but maybe Shoeless Joe.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

If I recall correctly, the Houston Astros won a World Series while stealing signs, correct? They didn't forfeit that championship, right? I haven't paid much attention to stick and ball sports in a while so my details are minimal. If that was the case, then there shouldn't be any issue with Pete Rose.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 10:23 PM (sAmhv)

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Resonance, the amplification of waves at specific frequencies, underpins many everyday technologies, including smartphones, ultrasound imaging, and radio systems. However, conventional resonators gradually dissipate energy, requiring continuous input to sustain their operation.
Nearly 100 years ago, Nobel Prize winners John von Neumann and Eugene Wigner introduced a radical idea: under specific conditions, it might be possible for waves to remain confined indefinitely, without leaking energy. These so-called bound states in the continuum (BIC) are akin to whirlpools that stay fixed in place, even as a river flows around them. Yet for decades, scientists assumed such states could not exist within a compact, single-resonator system-until now. -
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I am a really really poor example of a random asshole to question about this. Someone smarter that me should tell me how this is different that a laser.

Posted by: irright at May 13, 2025 10:23 PM (GcX7b)

74 than, darnit.

Posted by: irright at May 13, 2025 10:23 PM (GcX7b)

75 Trump looked great in Saudi Arabia at the conference earlier today. He slammed the neocons, liberal NGO's, and Western nation builders, and complimented the people who lived there for building their own nations, based on their modern outlooks and discarding the old ways.
It was a great slam on the neocon way of thinking and their record of failure. Go to TGP for some videos, probably a lot of other places too.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (dadcM)

76 We have some of your chairs.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:22 PM (OzWW4)

Twelve Chairs?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (0eaVi)

77 44 I'm kind of partial to Bissell vaccuums.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:14 PM (OzWW4)

Named after the actor, Whit Bissell. He of Trouble with Tribbles.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)

Wasn't he also the guy in charge of the Time Tunnel? I think I also saw him on Perry Mason, along with just about every other 50's actor.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (QGaXH)

78 A pitcher for the Houston Astros once pitched a no hitter while on acid.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (OzWW4)

79 41 Does anyone know if Ciampino was discharged from the hospital and actually made it home?
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

Yes, he is home.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 13, 2025 10:26 PM (TjpHE)

80 @73 the spelling is different

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 13, 2025 10:26 PM (2ZThz)

81 Omg! Love love love the Violent Femmes!

Thanks, scampy!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2025 10:26 PM (mT+6a)

82 Dyson the Vacuum Cleaner Engineer is the son Freeman Dyson, the man who arguably should have shared the Nobel Prize in physics for QED, along with the three who did get it. Also Dyson spheres, Dyson transforms, Dyson trees, and too many other things to mention. He had the right idea about “climate change” in that he doubted the hoaxers. Great man, really. I hear his son makes really good vacuum cleaners.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (0M7jv)

83 Thank you for all the prayers and well wishes. Younger daughter kept me sort of informed.
Saturday late morning I was sleeping with Bailey and he got attacked by another gatto so he panicked and leapt away using (some) claws. One of them must have sliced a vein or something but I didn't realize it until I had a pool of blood on the carpet from the 'drip'. Had a whiteout. Went to hospital via ambulance. Cat scan showed nothing related to kidney cyst or pneumonia as per previous. Decided to ship me to a more advanced hospital in St, Louis. At about 1:30AM I got my first helicopter ride. I was so packed and hemmed in while strapped to a very narrow stretcher that I surprised myself not getting claustrophobic. Maybe more on that later.
I had lost 5 units (5 x 350ml? ). Lots of intravenous antibiotics, 3 units blood and more other liquids that I can remember. No scotch though. Apparently I had sepsis and septic shock.
Best food of any hospital I have used. I was in an ICU section and the nurses were fab. I was pampered.

Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU)

84 @78 Doc Ellis, Pittsburgh Pirates

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (2ZThz)

85 Donald Trump accomplished more in the last 12 hours than Mayor Pete accomplished in his life.
I guess he can brag about all the charging stations he had built. What was it, a dozen in 4 years?

Posted by: The Mind That Alters, Alters All at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (G5+As)

86 Omg! Love love love the Violent Femmes!

Thanks, scampy!
Posted by: nurse ratched
-----------
'Evening, nurse. Yeah, VF are on the regular rotation of ear worms for me also.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:28 PM (41CYW)

87 78 A pitcher for the Houston Astros once pitched a no hitter while on acid.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Same for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Doc Ellis. Pitched a no hitter while high on LSD. Maybe the current Pirates could....

Nah, they'd still suck.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 10:28 PM (sAmhv)

88 Yo, scampydog! Good stuff, brother. Nice assistance there, publius!

Posted by: Doof at May 13, 2025 10:28 PM (UQakJ)

89 Evening Horde, thx scampydog.
Physics, chemistry , astrophysics, engineering and math. This Smart Military Blog sure is smaaht

Pffffft.

Posted by: Journalists at May 13, 2025 10:29 PM (s8j++)

90 If that was the case, then there shouldn't be any issue with Pete Rose.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 10:23 PM (sAmhv)

He was told he could apply for reinstatement if he stopped gambling on sports. He didn't, so he was told his banning was still in effect.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:29 PM (0eaVi)

91 Venn diagrams, that's math, that's sneaky math!
No math at ONT, definitely no sneaky math at ONT.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:29 PM (xYplz)

92 Ciampino. Great to have you back. That's about enough of the scare the Horde crap outta you!

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (41CYW)

93 I think that according to the rotation, Ellis wasn't scheduled to start that day. I think he was surprised he had to pitch that day.

Posted by: LSD IZ FUN!! at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (G5+As)

94 Wasn't he also the guy in charge of the Time Tunnel? I think I also saw him on Perry Mason, along with just about every other 50's actor.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (QGaXH)

Yes. No one ever came back from the tunnel, but one character.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (0eaVi)

95 90 If that was the case, then there shouldn't be any issue with Pete Rose.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 10:23 PM (sAmhv)

He was told he could apply for reinstatement if he stopped gambling on sports. He didn't, so he was told his banning was still in effect.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Good thing there is no gambling in the MLB now.
(cough)
Also, Pete was kind of dumb.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 10:31 PM (sAmhv)

96 Wow

I thought the Dildo banned publius years ago.

Posted by: Miklos may have Memory Issues at May 13, 2025 10:31 PM (t6ibK)

97
I heard a story about Pete Rose destroying a young player by deliberately taking out his ligaments in a base collision. Not Ray Fosse, some other, younger guy who lost his career on the spot because of the injury.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 13, 2025 10:31 PM (n7rxJ)

98 Best food of any hospital I have used. I was in an ICU section and the nurses were fab. I was pampered.
Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU)

No scotch. Vodka? Beer?

Welcome back. Hopefully you're back home, and safe.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:31 PM (VNX3d)

99 I lurve me some 3d spherical trig. My analysis day job had me doing icbm trajectories and measuring/setting engagement performance contribution for the radars, satelites, command & control, and the (Boeing) interceptor.

How the ECEF and ECI coordinate systmes had to be converged, because we never got data that was consistent in coordinate frames. S9metimes we had to send the dat back because they woukd use ECI but with the wrong time. Like the earth woukd be on the other side of the sun where the satelites would be out in open space orbiting jack and shit.

Posted by: BifBewalski - close tags for the win at May 13, 2025 10:32 PM (MsrgL)

100 Yay! Ciampino is back!

Posted by: Time is Tight at May 13, 2025 10:32 PM (G5+As)

101 Ciampino! You lost 3 UNITS OF BLOOD from a cat scratch??!! What the hell do you have? Bengal tiger?

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:33 PM (TfUTr)

102 75 Trump looked great in Saudi Arabia at the conference earlier today. He slammed the neocons, liberal NGO's, and Western nation builders, and complimented the people who lived there for building their own nations, based on their modern outlooks and discarding the old ways.
It was a great slam on the neocon way of thinking and their record of failure. Go to TGP for some videos, probably a lot of other places too.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (dadcM)

Another thing I'm enjoying, among many, of this presidency is just how he's a whirlwind of action nearly seven days a week. The stark contrast with 'sleepy Joe' is, in a word, stark. Not that the press will ever highlight or even acknowledge it. But they know. And I'm sure they know that we know and won't forget how they covered for Biden.

The only way this gets better is if some judge, about to retire and leave the country, declares all auto-pen signed documents null and void and the auto-pen controller person ('Dr' Jill?) goes to jail for a long, long, very long time.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:33 PM (QGaXH)

103 Love love love the Violent Femmes!

Thanks, scampy!
Posted by: nurse ratched
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'Evening, nurse. Yeah, VF are on the regular rotation of ear worms for me also.
Posted by: scampydog

Why can't I get just one.....day after day

Posted by: D. Hogg at May 13, 2025 10:33 PM (t6ibK)

104 Ciampino!

Good to have you back, sir.

No more ER, ICU or DYING, people.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2025 10:33 PM (mT+6a)

105 Ciao Ciampino!

Posted by: Il Mikloso di Fiumicino at May 13, 2025 10:34 PM (t6ibK)

106 Doof! Good evening - and yeah, publius brought the content and brains.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:34 PM (41CYW)

107 I lurve me some 3d spherical trig.
Posted by: BifBewalski

* bats eyelashes *

Posted by: Trigglypuff at May 13, 2025 10:34 PM (DgGvY)

108 Why is the staples thing physics, as opposed to geometry or autism?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 13, 2025 10:08 PM (DL7HR)

I don't know, but I used the Hell out of my staple gun today. I had a whole mess of radiator hoses, used and new, crammed into cartons, and wasting shelf space in the little shop, which is heated. So I sat me down in a chair, and measured the I.D. of each hose at each end, applied a ring of masking tape, and wrote down those diameters with a Sharpie. Then I used a stitching awl to put a loop of thread through the rubber very near one end of each, and tied the ends in a knot. Then I took bundles of prepared hoses to the big shop, and stapled them to the wall by the thread loops. I went through an entire bobbin of waxed nylon thread. Now, if I need a rad hose, I can just look at the wall, and pluck off a likely-looking candidate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 10:34 PM (4FpNc)

109 -
If the idea is that, in a perfect "ideal" laser, the energy would not diminish until it was released by allowing it out as a beam, I would , once again, even though that seems to make sense to me, need some smart person to make it "dumb" for me.

Posted by: irright at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (GcX7b)

110 >>>The Kosmos 482 probe, a relic from the first Space Race, crashed harmlessly into the Indian Ocean ...
----

Harmlessly? What if it hit a shark? What if it hit a WHALE??

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (xYplz)

111 I wonder how they kept the chair he sits on in the beginning in place. Notice he moves it around with ease so it's not nailed to the floor.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue

After he sets down the photo and plays with the chair, there is a cut. They really secured that chair because he hangs from it later.

The picture is another matter, as he picks it up and sets it down and picks it up again while the room rotates. I'm thinking magnets were involved.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dancing on the sun at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (Ko0fO)

112 >>>The Kosmos 482 probe, a relic from the first Space Race, crashed harmlessly into the Indian Ocean ...
----

Harmlessly? What if it hit a shark? What if it hit a WHALE??
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (xYplz)

If it hit a Greenpeace vessel, how would that count?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (VNX3d)

113 So usually he took acid when he thought he would be off.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 13, 2025 10:36 PM (OzWW4)

114 Yo, scampydog! Good stuff, brother. Nice assistance there, publius!
Posted by: Doof

*illuminates disco ball*

Posted by: Disco Facility manager Miklos at May 13, 2025 10:36 PM (t6ibK)

115 What if it hit a WHALE??
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (xYplz)

Don't think Stacey Abrams has ever been in the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:36 PM (0eaVi)

116 Ciampino - Shirley you noticed the irony of getting a CAT scan, amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2025 10:37 PM (cYBz/)

117 2000 Light Years from Home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3j9SHBxU9g

Posted by: yara at May 13, 2025 10:37 PM (k9S3D)

118 83 Thank you for all the prayers and well wishes.
Best food of any hospital I have used. I was in an ICU section and the nurses were fab. I was pampered.
Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU)

So glad you are home and on the road to recovery! I always enjoy your posts.

So you had a cat scan for a cat scratch? (kidding)

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:37 PM (QGaXH)

119 Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU
=-==

b"h for your good health

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 10:38 PM (RIvkX)

120 Now, if I need a rad hose, I can just look at the wall, and pluck off a likely-looking candidate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

HIRED

Posted by: Miklos from DOGE at May 13, 2025 10:38 PM (t6ibK)

121 It looks like Kilauea volcano in Hawaii is spilling out lava. Hopefully everyone's out of the way.

That isn't a good way to get a tan.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:38 PM (VNX3d)

122 thread loops. I went through an entire bobbin of waxed nylon thread. Now, if I need a rad hose, I can just look at the wall, and pluck off a likely-looking candidate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I'm your pal who doesn't need a radiator hose.

Posted by: The Wretched Panhard at May 13, 2025 10:38 PM (G5+As)

123 73 -
Lasers, masers, etc. all have to “fed,” have energy pumped in to their resonant cavities until extract the collimated, in-step, light, IR, whatever as a pulse or CW. They are talking, I presume (haven’t read the article) about putting energy in a resonant cavity and just leaving it there, indefinitely. Pretty nifty, I’ll be sure to read it later to see how they pull it off. Something similar was done years ago: put a current in a superconducting ring and keep it below it’s critical temperature (below which it is a superconductor) and the current keeps circulating indefinitely. That depends on superconduction. Without reading it, I suspect the resonant cavity depends on some “perfect” quantum resonance so maybe BEC or the like? Just guessing.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:39 PM (0M7jv)

124 Saw this old pilot for a science fiction show from late 50s. You'd recognize a few characters in it. It wasn't a kiddy show.

https://tinyurl.com/45re4ym7

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:39 PM (0eaVi)

125 Doof! Good evening - and yeah, publius brought the content and brains.
Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:34 PM (41CYW)

So - here in my undisclosed location in Colorado, I just returned from playing 18 holes at a local golf simulator / bar establishment. I played Old St. Andrews in Scotland.
Any chance I can get Mrs. Doggo down here to teach me to play better? I'm still - well, not very good. But I had a great time!

Posted by: Doof at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (UQakJ)

126 If it hit a Greenpeace vessel, how would that count?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Ah...oui

Posted by: Les Francais a New Zealand at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (t6ibK)

127 heh, a cat scan.

Posted by: davidt at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (i0F8b)

128 Great to have Ciampino back amongst the horde.
Praise God.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (Eo96p)

129 Miklos from DOGE

You mean, DODGE?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (0eaVi)

130 Ciampino, glad you are back!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (rT96s)

131 Posted by: BifBewalski

* bats eyelashes *

Posted by: Trigglypuff

How you doin'?
- The Donkey

Posted by: Donkey Show - close tags for the win at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (MsrgL)

132 @78 Doc Ellis, Pittsburgh Pirates
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (2ZThz)
====
I thought it was Vida Blue.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (RIvkX)

133 94 Wasn't he also the guy in charge of the Time Tunnel? I think I also saw him on Perry Mason, along with just about every other 50's actor.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:24 PM (QGaXH)

Yes. No one ever came back from the tunnel, but one character.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (0eaVi)

Tony and Doug never made it home?

To be fair, I don't think the custom of 'final episodes' really started until the 90's with that memorable final scene from 'Newhart' with Susanne Pleschette.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (QGaXH)

134 No one ever came back from the [time] tunnel, but one character.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

And that one person was Dr. Sam Beckett.

Who later jumped to the future to become a star ship captain.

Posted by: mindful webworker - according to Dr Who at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (Ko0fO)

135 113 So usually he took acid when he thought he would be off.
Posted by: Boss Moss

What you don't?

Posted by: Cooter Brown, Flyin' High at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (G5+As)

136 That isn't a good way to get a tan.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:38 PM (VNX3d)

How about some burnt ends?

Posted by: Famous Dave at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (0eaVi)

137 Not sure if Piper is around, but this might provide some content for her addition to Monday ONTs.

https://youtu.be/Xh6-vFDy0JM

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (VNX3d)

138 83
I forgot to mention that wound was on side of lower leg.

Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here! at May 13, 2025 10:42 PM (sPQoU)

139 114/
So, you're ok with being a facilities manager, but not a bouncer?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:42 PM (IQ6Gq)

140 You mean, DODGE?
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Got the hell outta there

Posted by: Le Mikleuse listening to WWOZ at May 13, 2025 10:42 PM (t6ibK)

141 Harmlessly? What if it hit a shark? What if it hit a WHALE??
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (xYplz)

What if it hit the sunken wreck of MH370?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 10:42 PM (4FpNc)

142 Any chance I can get Mrs. Doggo down here to teach me to play better? I'm still - well, not very good. But I had a great time!
Posted by: Doof
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Heh. She kicked the sh*t out of me on the course the last three rounds. Simulator golf is fun - glad you had a good time.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:43 PM (41CYW)

143 Good you’re feeling better, Ciampino. I was praying for you. Seems silly that it was for such a trivial cause! God bless you.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:43 PM (0M7jv)

144 Leave It To Beaver had a final episode. A retrospective with clips and remembrances. It was scheduled. Beaver wanted to quit and go to high school like a real kid. The ratings were still good. He decided to quit.

Posted by: Fred Rutherford at May 13, 2025 10:44 PM (G5+As)

145 110 >>>The Kosmos 482 probe, a relic from the first Space Race, crashed harmlessly into the Indian Ocean ...
----

Harmlessly? What if it hit a shark? What if it hit a WHALE??
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (xYplz)

Forget the fish and whales...WHAT IF IT HIT A MORON?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:44 PM (QGaXH)

146 Why is the staples thing physics, as opposed to geometry or autism?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

If you consider all the force vectors involved from the spring forces of the deformed rows of staples, I suppose it counts as physics.

That, or somebody needs to find something useful for that damn intern to do, pronto.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 13, 2025 10:44 PM (y9QyG)

147 https://tinyurl.com/5t3w9wh5

Measured dry cure bacon. Perfect every time.

I know. He's a Canuck, but give him a break!

He doesn't even realize he talks funny

Posted by: MkY at May 13, 2025 10:45 PM (cPGH3)

148 130 Ciampino, glad you are back!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 13, 2025 10:40 PM (rT96s)
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I'm not deporting Bailey. I need to find leather or steel leg warmers? What about (assless chaps?)

Posted by: Ciampino - Donalf where's yur troosers at May 13, 2025 10:45 PM (sPQoU)

149 -
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:39 PM -
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That was my guess, that this was a calculation on "perfect" physics. Perfect physics are great for calculations, but never perform perfectly when dealing with our imperfect world.

Posted by: irright at May 13, 2025 10:45 PM (GcX7b)

150 I thought it was Vida Blue.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (RIvkX)

Answer to one of my favorite baseball trivia questions. Have won many a beverage with it.

Who was the last switch hitter to win the American League MVP? Vida Blue (1971 - back when AL pitchers still batted)

Posted by: Doof at May 13, 2025 10:45 PM (UQakJ)

151 To be fair, I don't think the custom of 'final episodes' really started until the 90's with that memorable final scene from 'Newhart' with Susanne Pleschette.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (QGaXH)
====

MASH

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 10:45 PM (RIvkX)

152 120 Now, if I need a rad hose, I can just look at the wall, and pluck off a likely-looking candidate.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

HIRED
Posted by: Miklos from DOGE at May 13, 2025 10:38 PM (t6ibK)

I like the cut of that mans jib.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:46 PM (QGaXH)

153 So happy to actually see Ciampino back in the comments. Now, to create a plan that keeps you out of hospitals, despite the good food ( which really makes me wonder, because those those words have never been written before)....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at May 13, 2025 10:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

154 MASH
Posted by: San Franpsycho

The Fugitive.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 13, 2025 10:47 PM (TfUTr)

155 What did they leave to Beaver?

Posted by: Don Black at May 13, 2025 10:47 PM (AOsQT)

156 I saw the Violent Femmes live in concert. They invited people from the crowd to come up and play their instruments - sounds like a better idea then it was

Posted by: 18-1 at May 13, 2025 10:47 PM (t0Rmr)

157 >> Whit Bissell

One of the greats who was in everything.

Full name was Whitner Nutting Bissell, and his second wife was named Dilys Mary Shan Jukes.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 13, 2025 10:48 PM (w6EFb)

158 Was Vida Blue form Louisiana? Mom used to point out a row of shacks in one the Louisianan wide spots we would drive through to get to Gran's house and say that's where Vida Blue grew up.

Always wondered if she was BS-ing us waifu kids.

Posted by: BifBewalski - close tags for the win at May 13, 2025 10:48 PM (MsrgL)

159 So happy to actually see Ciampino back in the comments. Now, to create a plan that keeps you out of hospitals, despite the good food ( which really makes me wonder, because those those words have never been written before)....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady

Agree re: Ciampino.

The local hospital has the best $2 slice of pizza in the county.

Posted by: Miklos learns through adversity at May 13, 2025 10:49 PM (t6ibK)

160 143 Good you’re feeling better, Ciampino. I was praying for you. Seems silly that it was for such a trivial cause! God bless you.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:43 PM (0M7jv)
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Thank you for your prayers.
After rescuing many strays with sores, over the years, I came to realize that a simple puncture can become infected, enlarge and eventually kill the animal.

Posted by: Ciampino - Donald where's yur troosers at May 13, 2025 10:50 PM (sPQoU)

161 Full name was Whitner Nutting Bissell, and his second wife was named Dilys Mary Shan Jukes.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

I'd be willing to bet that's NEVER been on a trivia competition.
Why kinda swill you serving us here?

Posted by: MkY at May 13, 2025 10:50 PM (cPGH3)

162 The staples are physics, geometry, and autism: embrace the power of and!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:50 PM (0M7jv)

163 ...Best food of any hospital I have used. I was in an ICU section and the nurses were fab. I was pampered.
Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU)

Great to have you back, Ciampino!

I knew you'd find the pony in the middle of all the crap you went through over the last few days.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 13, 2025 10:50 PM (6mUsj)

164 Trump looked great in Saudi Arabia at the conference earlier today.

He's being treated as, and acting like the King of the World. I wonder if he has any remodeling plans for the White House after seeing that gigantic palace room they signed papers in? Man, that was huge.

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 10:51 PM (Xm4LY)

165 151 To be fair, I don't think the custom of 'final episodes' really started until the 90's with that memorable final scene from 'Newhart' with Susanne Pleschette.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (QGaXH)
====

MASH
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 10:45 PM (RIvkX)

You're right - MASH was 1983 or so.

I was going to type '80's' but second guessed myself.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:52 PM (QGaXH)

166 I'm kind of partial to Bissell vaccuums.

They suck.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 13, 2025 10:53 PM (lUFok)

167 So was Feynman saying that the only thing settled in science is thst NOTHING is settled?

Nothing is settled. And there are always new wonders to discover.

“ …the imagination of nature is far, far greater than the imagination of man.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at May 13, 2025 10:53 PM (EXyHK)

168 Leave it to Beaver to screw up was the gist of the show.

Posted by: Head Stuck In Fence at May 13, 2025 10:54 PM (G5+As)

169 Off to watch Gutfelt - maybe check in laters.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:54 PM (QGaXH)

170 So was Feynman saying that the only thing settled in science is thst NOTHING is settled?

Nothing is settled. And there are always new wonders to discover.

“ …the imagination of nature is far, far greater than the imagination of man.”
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
---------------
Another excellent Feynman quote.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:54 PM (41CYW)

171 Hey, Ciampino, how about shin guards, something like what a well-off centurion might wear to battle?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 10:54 PM (0M7jv)

172 > Named after the actor, Whit Bissell. He of Trouble with Tribbles.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)

I thought it was a typo for Jacqueline Bissett, who could reportedly suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 13, 2025 10:55 PM (W5ArC)

173 Parks and Rec is a very funny show.

So is Portlandia. Really. It’s funny.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2025 10:55 PM (mT+6a)

174
Saw this old pilot for a science fiction show from late 50s. You'd recognize a few characters in it. It wasn't a kiddy show.

https://tinyurl.com/45re4ym7
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Theo Marcuse

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 10:55 PM (63Dwl)

175 > 92 Ciampino. Great to have you back. That's about enough of the scare the Horde crap outta you!
Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (41CYW)

Likewise.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 13, 2025 10:57 PM (W5ArC)

176 I segued right from my role as Fred Rutherford into my role as Mel Cooley.

Posted by: Shakespeare, Pfffffft! at May 13, 2025 10:57 PM (G5+As)

177 You'd accelerate at 1g toward your target till you got about half-way, then turn around and decelerate at 1g.

I bet we'd nudge that a little higher, too. 1.5g?

Posted by: t-bird at May 13, 2025 10:58 PM (yLThl)

178 151 To be fair, I don't think the custom of 'final episodes' really started until the 90's with that memorable final scene from 'Newhart' with Susanne Pleschette.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 13, 2025 10:41 PM (QGaXH)
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Isn't that because no one knows that this season's last episode is actually the last, after the series is canceled in the off season?

Posted by: Ciampino - the vagaries of Hollywood at May 13, 2025 10:59 PM (sPQoU)

179 Here's a 1959 pilot for a Nero Wolfe series, set in the US rocket program. Includes early William Shatner as Archie Goodwin.

https://youtu.be/9_AoebAAig4

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:59 PM (VNX3d)

180 Saw this old pilot for a science fiction show from late 50s. You'd recognize a few characters in it. It wasn't a kiddy show.

https://tinyurl.com/45re4ym7
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Check out the vid @ 5:33. The origin of the Engineer saying "I'm giving it all we've got Captain."

Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2025 11:00 PM (cYBz/)

181 Theo Marcuse
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 10:55 PM (63Dwl)

Robert Fuller too. Although the face of the Colonel seems familiar to me, the name didn't.

Posted by: Famous Dave at May 13, 2025 11:00 PM (0eaVi)

182
I was going to type '80's' but second guessed myself.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Perry Mason The Case of the Final Fadeout

1966

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673265

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 11:00 PM (63Dwl)

183 Thanks for the bonus, nerdy publius content. Publius is a mensch.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 13, 2025 11:01 PM (0FNVq)

184 Saw this old pilot for a science fiction show from late 50s. You'd recognize a few characters in it. It wasn't a kiddy show.
https://tinyurl.com/45re4ym7
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Aw, why'd ya have to do that? Now I'm half-way through the episode. Oh, well. Everything's a distraction from everything else!

Posted by: mindful webworker - blast off at May 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Ko0fO)

185 Pilot for what became Leave it to Beaver was titled-It's A Small World. Different Ward and Wally.

Posted by: History of Mayfield at May 13, 2025 11:01 PM (G5+As)

186 I forgot to mention that wound was on side of lower leg.
Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here! at May 13, 2025 10:42 PM (sPQoU)

Dad's girlfriend got caught by a blackberry thorn on the leg while picking blackberries. It hit a varicose vein and it bled and bled. It would have been worse if she had been on blood thinners.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 11:01 PM (D7oie)

187 Here's a 1959 pilot for a Nero Wolfe series, set in the US rocket program. Includes early William Shatner as Archie Goodwin.

https://youtu.be/9_AoebAAig4
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 13, 2025 10:59 PM (VNX3d)

What might have been if the show was picked up.

Posted by: Famous Dave at May 13, 2025 11:01 PM (0eaVi)

188 Got a kydex holster for the Ruger RXM 9mm. It wants to grab onto the gun and not let go. I'm working the Ruger in and out of it, trying to break it in. Otherwise, I might have a Barney Fife versus The Three Stooges moment if I tried to draw in a hurry.

There is a scene in "Justified" where Raylan gives a lesson in gun fighting to a young wannabe crook. It goes something like:
"Now, I could try to do a quick draw, but there's always the possibility that something could wrong. So it's better to have my gun in my hand when I might need it, like now. (carefully pulls pistol out and points it at crook)

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 13, 2025 11:03 PM (y9QyG)

189 -
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Another excellent Feynman quote.
Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:54 PM-
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In my EXTREMELY half-ass study of human beings, Feynman was the smartest.
(I have a bias toward humility/self doubt.)

Posted by: irright at May 13, 2025 11:03 PM (GcX7b)

190 We make homemade bacon all the time. It’s not that difficult and requires I avoid my usually casual approach to specific quantities of ingredients.

The result is always delicious and so far from store bought bacon that they don’t seem to be the same animal.

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 13, 2025 11:03 PM (eDtr8)

191 Aw, why'd ya have to do that? Now I'm half-way through the episode. Oh, well. Everything's a distraction from everything else!
Posted by: mindful webworker - blast off at May 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Ko0fO)

It's pretty good. You can always stop it, check the comments and then go back. I do that nearly every night.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:03 PM (0eaVi)

192 There were two pilots for Three's Company before they found Suzanne and Joyce. Jack and the Ropers were in all of the pilots.

Posted by: Ralph Furley's Polyester Pants at May 13, 2025 11:03 PM (G5+As)

193 One and a half days to Mars riding a fusion powered atomic rocket.

https://tinyurl.com/3jhjp6ck

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (xYplz)

194 Here's a 1959 pilot for a Nero Wolfe series, set in the US rocket program. Includes early William Shatner as Archie Goodwin.

https://youtu.be/9_AoebAAig4
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Watched a bit and bookmarked for later.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (41CYW)

195 Ciampino, did you call 911 yourself?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (rT96s)

196 Where do you buy a pork belly?

Posted by: Gettin' Hangry at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (G5+As)

197 Where do you buy a pork belly?
Posted by: Gettin' Hangry at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (G5+As)

Vmom knows. A Filipino store.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:06 PM (0eaVi)

198 Hat tip to Igor.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:07 PM (xYplz)

199
Robert Fuller too. Although the face of the Colonel seems familiar to me, the name didn't.
Posted by: Famous Dave

He was in a lot of older TV shows.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574374

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 11:07 PM (63Dwl)

200 >> I bet we'd nudge that a little higher, too. 1.5g?

How much above 1g a healthy human could tolerate is really unknown. 1.5g is likely the limit, but it would take time to acclimate. If you suddenly went to 1.5g, it wouldn't be too tolerable. What you'd want to do is increase it slowly, over a couple of weeks, I think.

Considering at 1g constant, the whole Solar System is about 2 weeks max, you wouldn't gain much. Now for cargo, not humans or animals, you could increase it well above 1g depending on the cargo.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 13, 2025 11:08 PM (w6EFb)

201 C'mon, knock on our door!
We've been waiting for you!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 11:08 PM (RIvkX)

202 >>> 190 We make homemade bacon all the time. It’s not that difficult and requires I avoid my usually casual approach to specific quantities of ingredients.

The result is always delicious and so far from store bought bacon that they don’t seem to be the same animal.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 13, 2025 11:03 PM (eDtr

I'm assuming you use real smoke vs steam with smoke extract, which is what something like 98% of grocery store bacon is (and USDA approved!!!). I believe Wright bacon is one of the few exceptions.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 13, 2025 11:08 PM (Vqx30)

203 Are you joking?

Posted by: Pork-Bellies-R-Us at May 13, 2025 11:08 PM (GcX7b)

204 MWAAAAH!

(Hi and welcome back in Persian kittuh to Ciampino)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 13, 2025 11:08 PM (sAmhv)

205 The Russians on Mars. Merry Christmas

youtu.be/u7bi9PJ-OYs

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 11:08 PM (D7oie)

206
Pilot for what became Leave it to Beaver was titled-It's A Small World. Different Ward and Wally.
Posted by: History of Mayfield

And Richard Deacon was in it. But not as Fred Rutherford.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 11:10 PM (63Dwl)

207 175 > 92 Ciampino. Great to have you back. That's about enough of the scare the Horde crap outta you!
Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (41CYW)

Likewise.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 13, 2025 10:57 PM (W5ArC)
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Truer words scampydog.
The whiteout convinced me I was going to die - white light? Now I actually have died during a cauterization procedure (a couple of minutes) - I was running in a field of bright poppies taller than me, blue sky and BRIGHT sunshine. I was a child again. I was so happy that I cursed out the nurse who paddled me and woke me up.

Posted by: Ciampino - wait it is later at May 13, 2025 11:11 PM (sPQoU)

208 He was in a lot of older TV shows.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0574374
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 13, 2025 11:07 PM (63Dwl)

That's why his face seemed familiar. I've watched most of those western series.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:11 PM (0eaVi)

209 I go dark for few weeks because of massive work going on at the house, and while doing some catch up I see Jim SND passed. Jewels and now Jim. I have no words..

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 13, 2025 11:11 PM (snZF9)

210 >>>The ultimate is something dubbed the Epstein Drive, after a fictional character on the sci-fi show The Expanse. Here's the scene showing how the inventor, Solomon Epstein, accidentally hit the mother load on fusion rocket efficiency. His test fusion hot-rod spaceship had a wonky voice interface, so he shut off the voice control. When he fired it up, the thrust was so great he was pulling too many g's to move, and so killed his fool self, strapped in under high g unable to turn off the engine:

*sighs* Not just like poor Jeffrey.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 13, 2025 11:11 PM (lHPJf)

211 The Korean researchers didn’t use BEC, but clever nano tech! Impressive!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:12 PM (0M7jv)

212 Got shaken up last night at 2AM:

https://tinyurl.com/2ndtt7ym

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 11:12 PM (lkmGL)

213 Shirley Jones starred in a 1965 failed pilot called "Dream Wife".

Posted by: Mrs. Ingles at May 13, 2025 11:13 PM (G5+As)

214 The Epstein Drive -

Epstein didn’t kill himself!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:13 PM (0M7jv)

215 Seriously though, that was the most interesting thing I've read on the ONT in a while, and that's saying something.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 13, 2025 11:13 PM (lHPJf)

216 Fortunately, the odds of this are very low, given what they think the black hole population is in the galaxy
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How much of the dark matter do they think is rogue black holes?

What if most of it is?

Posted by: Methos at May 13, 2025 11:14 PM (Dnobf)

217 Shirley Jones starred in a 1965 failed pilot called "Dream Wife".
Posted by: Mrs. Ingles at May 13, 2025 11:13 PM (G5+As)

One good thing about YT is you can find episodes of failed series. There's usually someone who likes them and gets video of them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:14 PM (0eaVi)

218 Read the post. Now my brain hurts. Good thing there was bacon.

Posted by: javems at May 13, 2025 11:15 PM (8I4hW)

219 Where do you buy a pork belly?
Posted by: Gettin' Hangry at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (G5+As)

I got some at my local small-town grocer last week. Four dollars a pound.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:15 PM (4FpNc)

220 Javems! Been thinking about you. Good to see you here.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 11:16 PM (41CYW)

221 Bers, it's getting to where I'm afraid to come on the blog at all. Campiano gave us a scare a few days ago, and you yourself did not too long ago!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:17 PM (Vvh2V)

222 Richard Deacon was very adept at playing a smarmy nebbish-type. A very particular talent.

Posted by: Wrote a Microwave Cookbook, Too at May 13, 2025 11:17 PM (G5+As)

223 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 11:12 PM (lkmGL)

As if y'all didn't have enough to say grace over!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:17 PM (Vvh2V)

224 "I'm not saying that Atari knows aliens, but aliens."

What is this "Atari" you speak of?

Posted by: TAITO, creators of Space Invaders at May 13, 2025 11:18 PM (TdCYS)

225 The Expanse is some of the best televised sci-fi of all time. It ends a bit weaker than it started but it's still well worth watching. I love the retro-future noir vibe of S1.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at May 13, 2025 11:18 PM (0FNVq)

226 I had lost 5 units (5 x 350ml? ). Lots of intravenous antibiotics, 3 units blood and more other liquids that I can remember. No scotch though. Apparently I had sepsis and septic shock.
Best food of any hospital I have used. I was in an ICU section and the nurses were fab. I was pampered.

Posted by: Ciampino - yep I'm here at May 13, 2025 10:27 PM (sPQoU)

Glad you are better, Ciampino. Sounds like a close call.

St. Louis has the best hospitals around. We are very blessed.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at May 13, 2025 11:18 PM (CZtU8)

227 I tried making bacon by salting down pork belly in a ziplock bag with sugar cure, it turned out very salty, and I never figured out I had to cut it thin, and simmer the slices before frying. Unsmoked it is not great bacon.

I do make pickled beef with cheap roasts cut about an inch thick. I seal them with about a tablespoon of sugar cure and put them in the freezer. About a week before I want one, I pull it out to the fridge and let it work itself in the plastic bag, then I cook it like a corned beef in a crock pot.
Those I have to slice it thin and simmer for a few minutes to get the salt off too, but they are worth the hassle. They are a wonderful slice of beef for a sandwich.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 11:18 PM (D7oie)

228 164 Trump looked great in Saudi Arabia at the conference earlier today.

He's being treated as, and acting like the King of the World. I wonder if he has any remodeling plans for the White House after seeing that gigantic palace room they signed papers in? Man, that was huge.
Posted by: t-bird at May
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It's against the rules to touch the king.
--

There's an old clip of Trump walking behind the seated king, tapping him on the shoulder as he passed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:18 PM (xYplz)

229 You can always stop it, check the comments and then go back.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Which I did. Obviously. 😛

Theo Marcuse - knew I knew him from somewhere. Star Trek and probably others. He was in everything. Amusing to note, his IMDb page doesn't list Outpost in Space, even though he is credited in the Outpost page.

Posted by: mindful webworker - piiigs iinnnn spppaaaaace at May 13, 2025 11:19 PM (Ko0fO)

230 Gene Roddenberry lifted that entire Doc/Bartender scene from Outpost in Space 1959 for his original pilot for Star Trek, the one with Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Pike, not Shatner. Most people would have seen it as the two part episode “The Cage”.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:19 PM (0M7jv)

231 Seriously though, that was the most interesting thing I've read on the ONT in a while, and that's saying something.
Posted by: Dr. T
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Right there with you. When publius sent that over I read it twice, then lost over 2 hours. Went down a bunch of rabbit holes.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 11:19 PM (41CYW)

232 The Grocery Outlet we use usually has pork belly, interestingly. Bought it once to make delish apetizers of some sort (already forget, I'm sure the recipe is bookmarked in an appropriate folder). Have looked into makin' bacon but laziness has precluded that, so far. Think I even have some a that "pink salt" here somewhere, must have thought I was going to do it (actually now recall I got it from a butcher at the high-end butcher shop nearby that we rarely visit).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2025 11:19 PM (1m82a)

233 My gourmet preserving ventures are limited to pickling or salting meyer lemons. Which I am going to have to do soon. Tree is full. Also might make more limoncello, haven't done that for at least two seasons.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2025 11:21 PM (1m82a)

234 Hello, Horde! 😊💕

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at May 13, 2025 11:21 PM (SRRAx)

235 The original pilot was called Tge Cage. The two part episode which aired was called The Menagerie.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 13, 2025 11:22 PM (TdCYS)

236 Costco sells pork belly

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 13, 2025 11:22 PM (rT96s)

237 Meanwhile, in Ukraine:
1. Continued desperate attempts by the West to get an immediate 30 day ceasefire. There will be a Russian delegation in Istanbul on 15 May, looking for someone to talk to. Unknown if anybody will dare to actually speak to them and risk being called a Putin Stooge back home.
2. In a peculiar incident, the Ukrainians blew up some buildings well behind their current front lines to prevent the Russians from occupying them later. While it was perhaps a sensible thing to do, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in their future prospects.
3. The Russians continue to grind, and in some places surge, forward all along the front line. The attempted Ukrainian raid across the border in the northwest has been pretty much stamped out. No fresh news about the Russians crossing the river at Kherson in the south.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 13, 2025 11:22 PM (y9QyG)

238 >> How much of the dark matter do they think is rogue black holes?

What if most of it is?

The idea that it could be black holes has been considered, but it doesn't work well. The dark matter is diffuse, spread out all over the galactic mass distribution. Little black holes would be very clumpy, and would produce noticeable microlensing of background starlight.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 13, 2025 11:23 PM (w6EFb)

239 Elementary school mothers would have a sno cone machine just outside the exit gate. What a super way to end the school day.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:24 PM (xYplz)

240 Harmlessly? What if it hit a shark? What if it hit a WHALE??
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 10:35 PM (xYplz)

If it hit a Greenpeace vessel, how would that count?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Double points with Triple multiplier and 50 free spins.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:25 PM (xYplz)

241 92 Ciampino. Great to have you back. That's about enough of the scare the Horde crap outta you!
Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 10:30 PM (41CYW)

Enough to scare the crap out of me. Good to see you on the mend Africa hand.

Posted by: javems at May 13, 2025 11:26 PM (8I4hW)

242 Gene Roddenberry lifted that entire Doc/Bartender scene from Outpost in Space 1959 for his original pilot for Star Trek, the one with Jeffrey Hunter as Captain Pike, not Shatner. Most people would have seen it as the two part episode “The Cage”.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:19 PM (0M7jv)

And the engineer giving all he's got.

Mindful, the title of the series was "Flight." That's what Oupost is listed under.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:26 PM (0eaVi)

243 Does anyone know how one goes about getting an individual health care plan?

One of my nieces just graduated ( high school) and needs some. Not sure why she cannot go on my brother or her mother's insurance; I suspect there's a story I'm not being told.

She was just laid off a job she had since she was 16 ( no COBRA) and is looking for another one, but she needs psychiatric meds and I've never had to deal with getting insurance and I don't know how to help her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:27 PM (Vvh2V)

244 Does anyone know how one goes about getting an individual health care plan?

One of my nieces just graduated ( high school) and needs some. Not sure why she cannot go on my brother or her mother's insurance; I suspect there's a story I'm not being told.

She was just laid off a job she had since she was 16 ( no COBRA) and is looking for another one, but she needs psychiatric meds and I've never had to deal with getting insurance and I don't know how to help her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:27 PM (Vvh2V)

245 I admit I have no actual facts to go by, but my suspicions are that Dark Matter is not actually a thing, being more like a misinterpretation of facts using incorrect suppositions like "luminiferous aether"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 11:27 PM (D7oie)

246 Ooops, sorry about the double post!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:27 PM (Vvh2V)

247 195 Ciampino, did you call 911 yourself?

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (rT96s)
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Nope, I was being kept propped up by my kids otherwise I would have been flat on the floor. Younger Daughter called the medics {and they didn't respond, "Take two aspirins and call me in the morning." (Cosby as a medic on an invasion beach)}.

Posted by: Ciampino - very unpleasant experience at May 13, 2025 11:28 PM (sPQoU)

248 Tammy write to weird dave. He is a broker.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 11:29 PM (RIvkX)

249 Does anyone know how one goes about getting an individual health care plan?

One of my nieces just graduated ( high school) and needs some. Not sure why she cannot go on my brother or her mother's insurance; I suspect there's a story I'm not being told.

She was just laid off a job she had since she was 16 ( no COBRA) and is looking for another one, but she needs psychiatric meds and I've never had to deal with getting insurance and I don't know how to help her.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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Tammy, I think Weird Dave can assist with this.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 11:29 PM (41CYW)

250 Z-man said he'd be in Istanbul Thursday. Have no idea, but seems to me Moscow has a plan they're working (in terms of ground war) and therefore won't be interested in a ceasefire til its boxes are all checked. Can't imagine they plan to take full administrative territory of the 2 southwester oblasts, that could take an eternity. Whereas I think they have all of Lugansk and most of Donetsk. All of those two, + artillery buffer zone, still my bet as to minimum goals.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2025 11:30 PM (1m82a)

251 >>> 232 The Grocery Outlet we use usually has pork belly, interestingly. Bought it once to make delish apetizers of some sort (already forget, I'm sure the recipe is bookmarked in an appropriate folder). Have looked into makin' bacon but laziness has precluded that, so far. Think I even have some a that "pink salt" here somewhere, must have thought I was going to do it (actually now recall I got it from a butcher at the high-end butcher shop nearby that we rarely visit).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2025 11:19 PM (1m82a)

Pink (NOT Himalayan!!!) salt for curing:
https://shorturl.at/ax40A
https://shorturl.at/CwueB
(The producer has their own website but it appears it has been updated, poorly, since I last visited)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 13, 2025 11:30 PM (Vqx30)

252 >>>Theo Marcuse - knew I knew him from somewhere. Star Trek and probably others. He was in everything. ...

Posted by: mindful webworker - piiigs iinnnn spppaaaaace
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The face, that's what the call it in the business. He had the face, didn't need to say a line and the face made the setting.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:30 PM (xYplz)

253 Oh, y'all are the best, I forgot he was a broker! I'm so glad I asked! I appreciate your help so much! 🤗🤗🤗

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:31 PM (Vvh2V)

254 220 Javems! Been thinking about you. Good to see you here.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 11:16 PM (41CYW)

Thanks. Good to hear from you. I'm hanging in there.

Posted by: javems at May 13, 2025 11:31 PM (8I4hW)

255 Tammy, she may easily qualify for her state's Medicaid program too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 13, 2025 11:31 PM (RIvkX)

256 Tammy, if your niece is unemployed, she may qualify for her state's health plan, especially if there is a need.
There is also the ability to pay cash for most appointments and Rx. That is a short term solution.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 11:32 PM (D7oie)

257 And the engineer giving all he's got.

Mindful, the title of the series was "Flight." That's what Oupost is listed under.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:26 PM (0eaVi)

I watched the Outpost pilot. Special FX were very cheesy. And the pointy craggity crags on the hostile planet seem quite at odds with an oxygen-bearing atmosphere, yet no signs of plant or animal life.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:32 PM (4FpNc)

258 When I was 8 years old I met Albert Einstein and we talked about physics and black holes.

I said hey Al what about the energy needed to exceed the speed of light was never achieved because the weight of the object approaches infinity. And he said thanx Joe and I will build on your theory.

I said it is all relative and Al said that's right..... The theory of Relativity is what you described.

Thats the Gods truth... Just ask him and The Dali Lama

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 13, 2025 11:33 PM (A2iSa)

259 More physics news:
https://tinyurl.com/2cejevup

Apparently the universe only has 10^78 years left, not 10^1100 as previously thought.

Please adjust your long-term investments accordingly.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at May 13, 2025 11:35 PM (r0NVS)

260 *tips banana to Ciampino*

Welcome back amigo.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 11:36 PM (Uzn0I)

261 As if y'all didn't have enough to say grace over!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 13, 2025 11:17 PM (Vvh2V)
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Yeh. No sirens for this earlier one at around 11PM:

https://tinyurl.com/y7b9b9vn

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 11:36 PM (lkmGL)

262 >>> 259 More physics news:
https://tinyurl.com/2cejevup

Apparently the universe only has 10^78 years left, not 10^1100 as previously thought.

Please adjust your long-term investments accordingly.
Posted by: Cave Johnson at May 13, 2025 11:35 PM (r0NVS)

This is unpossible as it would cut our copyrights short.

Posted by: DIESney at May 13, 2025 11:37 PM (Vqx30)

263 More physics news:
https://tinyurl.com/2cejevup

Apparently the universe only has 10^78 years left, not 10^1100 as previously thought.

Please adjust your long-term investments accordingly.
Posted by: Cave Johnson
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And there it is - Hawking radiation. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: scampydog at May 13, 2025 11:37 PM (41CYW)

264 >>>and I don't know how to help her.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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For the meds, establishing a relationship with a primary, maybe someone in the family has one and can be a reference. She confirms that she has been on X regimen, the primary can prescribe the meds.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:37 PM (xYplz)

265 I meant minimum territorial goals. Ukraine's future military status outweighs every other consideration, that's why there's a war on at all.

When Tucker did his Moscow trip and interview with Lavrov, there were a few hilarious moments. When Tucker asked whether it was correct that the US and Russian guvamints had not spoken for eons, Lavrov's expression was the seasoned poker-faced Russki diplomat's equivalent of "what the F is wrong with you??". Of course there was regular contact (um, Tucker, that's what embassies spend most of their time doing). Carlson had pimped the episode as examining the alarming situation where RUSSIA AND THE US HAVEN'T SPOKEN IN YEARS AND NUKYLER WAR IS A REAL POSSIBILITY ELEVENTY!!!!!

When Tucker asked what Moscow would accept as part of a settlement, Lavrov said no Ukraine in NATO, almost before the question was finished. A small hint as to the central nature of this question - a hint even most Euro and Beltway experts seem to take.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 13, 2025 11:37 PM (1m82a)

266 I watched the Outpost pilot. Special FX were very cheesy. And the pointy craggity crags on the hostile planet seem quite at odds with an oxygen-bearing atmosphere, yet no signs of plant or animal life.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:32 PM (4FpNc)

True, but they were supposedly in a wilderness area bombarded by radiation during the daytime. I just noticed it was an "adult" story, not a kiddie one and it seemed well done, sfx not withstanding.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:38 PM (0eaVi)

267 Thats the Gods truth... Just ask him and The Dali Lama
Posted by: Joe Biden

Big hitter the Lama.
-- Carl Spackler

Posted by: Tonypete at May 13, 2025 11:38 PM (cYBz/)

268 260 *tips banana to Ciampino*

Welcome back amigo.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * poorly trained emotional support moron at May 13, 2025 11:36 PM (Uzn0I)
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How did you know I like bananas? It's my breakfast almost every day.

Posted by: Ciampino - yellow thing - very nice fruit at May 13, 2025 11:40 PM (sPQoU)

269 Yeh. No sirens for this earlier one at around 11PM:

https://tinyurl.com/y7b9b9vn
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 13, 2025 11:36 PM (lkmGL)

Where are the launchers for these missiles, and what are they? Fixed installations, or truck-mounted?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4FpNc)

270 This made me laff

https://x.com/positivesideofx

Posted by: Miklos is Highly Amused at May 13, 2025 11:40 PM (t6ibK)

271 Within the confines of the Space Station, everyone can still smell your bad breath and arse.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 11:41 PM (zKVqU)

272 True, but they were supposedly in a wilderness area bombarded by radiation during the daytime. I just noticed it was an "adult" story, not a kiddie one and it seemed well done, sfx not withstanding.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:38 PM (0eaVi)

One would think the entire dayside of the planet would be bombarded by radiation, if some of it was.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:42 PM (4FpNc)

273 Apparently the universe only has 10^78 years left, not 10^1100 as previously thought.

Just my damn luck.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 13, 2025 11:43 PM (/y8xj)

274 irright -

For the continuously flowing current, all you need to do is keep the ring below its critical temperature, i.e. superconducting. For some of the newer ceramic superconducting materials (how to make wires with a ceramic is an art, but one the engineers have mastered) the critical temperature is above the boiling point of liquid nitrogen. That means your superconducting maglev suspension and drive coils on your floating electric train just need to be in a sturdy Dewar flask, and the train engineer comes along at the end of the run to top off the Dewars with liquid nitrogen, which we can extract from the air and costs on a per gallon basis about the price of milk. Superconduction applications are doable and coming. It’s rather like how the engineers would top of the bearings with oil periodically on old steam engines. It’s just engineering, now! Power transmission, in the future, with superconducting power lines (probably buried in the ground, not in the air) can be all DC with no loss, none, in the power line (there is always some loss in AC transmission, even at very high voltages).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:45 PM (0M7jv)

275 One would think the entire dayside of the planet would be bombarded by radiation, if some of it was.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:42 PM (4FpNc)

They seemed to indicate that. I can't remember whether the Col was wearing a rad suit when he entered the building.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:48 PM (0eaVi)

276 Mindful, the title of the series was "Flight." That's what Oupost is listed under.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Oh, okay.

Time for me to read some bedtime stories to the pets. Keep the campfire going 'til Pixy gets here.

https://youtu.be/gmhCWO4RPb0

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - watch out for rogue kangaroos at May 13, 2025 11:48 PM (Ko0fO)

277 He wasn't. The rocket crew had rad meters to check their exposure in a sleeve pocket.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:49 PM (0eaVi)

278 Looks like the sets and backdrops for "Outpost" were done by Chesley Bonestell, or someone copying his style.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4FpNc)

279 The universe is going to end in only 10^78 years! Quick! Build Dyson spheres around all our stars! How to make stable Dyson spheres was only recently discovered. See Google Scholar.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:50 PM (0M7jv)

280 If Neil deGrasse Tyson farted in a Jeffries tube, would the captain be forced to catch a whiff on The Deck?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 11:51 PM (zKVqU)

281 Looks like the sets and backdrops for "Outpost" were done by Chesley Bonestell, or someone copying his style.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4FpNc)

Comments say Forbidden Planet props.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:51 PM (0eaVi)

282 How to make stable Dyson spheres was only recently discovered. See Google Scholar.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:50 PM (0M7jv)

Start with a Dyson cube, and keep knocking off corners until all the corners are gone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:53 PM (4FpNc)

283 If Neil deGrasse Tyson farted in a Jeffries tube, would the captain be forced to catch a whiff on The Deck?
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at May 13, 2025 11:51 PM (zKVqU)

Has he written any papers?

Posted by: Kindltot at May 13, 2025 11:53 PM (D7oie)

284 I’ve done the pork belly from Costco.

Dry rub with salt, brown sugar, cayenne and paprika. Let it sit in the fridge, covered for a couple days. Smoke long and low. Then, when you want to serve, throw on the grill high heat and sear, then put on hawiian rolls with crunchy cole slaw and serve as sliders.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 13, 2025 11:54 PM (mT+6a)

285 Where do you buy a pork belly?
Posted by: Gettin' Hangry at May 13, 2025 11:05 PM (G5+As)

Costco. Usually by the case.

Real smoke. Deli meat slicer. Freeze before slicing

Posted by: Pete Bog at May 13, 2025 11:55 PM (eDtr8)

286 Chesley Bonestell worked on Forbidden Planet.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 13, 2025 11:56 PM (0M7jv)

287 Comments say Forbidden Planet props.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 13, 2025 11:51 PM (0eaVi)

I noticed that all the controls, both in the base and the space ship, were analog, as were all the displays. Not even a Nixie tube, which were invented in 1955.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 13, 2025 11:57 PM (4FpNc)

288 logging back in - hinky browser

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 13, 2025 11:59 PM (xYplz)

289 This thing with the South African refugees amazes me on so many levels.

We've got the "we have to help everyone even if they aren't like us" crew that want to bring every third worlder here balking at these refugees because the color of their skin (great replacement is just a conspiracy theory people!)

Then we've got the FNM arguing that whites aren't being targeted in SA these refugees are really just leaving uh...because uh...no reason or anything.

Then you've also got the NGO set arguing that Trump holding back aid against SA because they are discriminating against whites is wrong. Even though 40 years ago they argued it was a moral imperative to issue a trade embargo on SA because...it discriminated against people based on race.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2025 12:01 AM (t0Rmr)

290
Mindful, the title of the series was "Flight." That's what Oupost is listed under.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Outpost was to be a spin off.
Like Assignment Earth.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2025 12:02 AM (63Dwl)

291 The amount of energy needed to make a Dyson sphere would likely mean that a civilization that could build one wouldn't actually need to.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2025 12:02 AM (t0Rmr)

292 The Inception hallway fight was the best special effect ever made.

https://youtu.be/4h_DpCFQ99w?si=2z1_1yOQCaEZh0-U

Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2025 12:03 AM (lhenN)

293
In view of recent interest in China, here is an article from a few years ago about doing business there.

https://tinyurl.com/5ytsmudx

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 14, 2025 12:04 AM (g3j/k)

294 Well, it's kind of early yet, but I am getting sleepy, so I'm going to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2025 12:06 AM (4FpNc)

295 G'night, AOP.

Posted by: scampydog at May 14, 2025 12:08 AM (41CYW)

296 In view of recent interest in China, here is an article from a few years ago about doing business there.

https://tinyurl.com/5ytsmudx
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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My experience was very similar to what was described in that article. I don't speak Mandarin, however. Hell I barely speak English.

Posted by: scampydog at May 14, 2025 12:11 AM (41CYW)

297 Good night AOP. Just got here, tried to read all comments but failed miserably. Very nice ONT, I hope that all of the super smart people have gone to bed because I can't offer much in that department.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 14, 2025 12:11 AM (0nHVk)

298 Then you've also got the NGO set arguing that Trump holding back aid against SA because they are discriminating against whites is wrong. Even though 40 years ago they argued it was a moral imperative to issue a trade embargo on SA because...it discriminated against people based on race.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2025 12:01 AM (t0Rmr)

Anybody remember how upset the left got when Hunter married a South African white? Me, neither

Posted by: night lifted at May 14, 2025 12:12 AM (FZn/N)

299 DDS!

*pats barstool*.
Come have a seat! Maybe COMM will join us.

Is Miklos around? How about Rat?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2025 12:14 AM (mT+6a)

300 258 When I was 8 years old I met Albert Einstein and we talked about physics and black holes.

I said hey Al what about the energy needed to exceed the speed of light was never achieved because the weight of the object approaches infinity. And he said thanx Joe and I will build on your theory.

I said it is all relative and Al said that's right..... The theory of Relativity is what you described.

Thats the Gods truth... Just ask him and The Dali Lama
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 13, 2025 11:33 PM (A2iSa)

You forgot to include the words 'no joke'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 14, 2025 12:14 AM (QGaXH)

301 Would Joe think the Dalai Lama was an animal from South America or a euphemism for something you do to tweens when your wife isn't around?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 14, 2025 12:17 AM (t0Rmr)

302 Outpost was to be a spin off.
Like Assignment Earth.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2025 12:02 AM (63Dwl)

No Terri Garr, though. The freighter captain did ogle the nurse at the end. But she wasn't a TG.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2025 12:17 AM (0eaVi)

303 It can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2025 12:20 AM (II0jt)

304 It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip
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Lunch? Italian sub sammich, please.

Posted by: scampydog at May 14, 2025 12:23 AM (41CYW)

305 I guess that talked me right out of any space travel

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2025 12:26 AM (II0jt)

306 I have a Italian hoagie

Posted by: Skip at May 14, 2025 12:26 AM (II0jt)

307 Dyson makes a good vacuum cleaner, but I'm not buying the hype about his sphere.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 14, 2025 12:27 AM (CzMNg)

308
I have a Italian hoagie
Posted by: Skip

I really hope you're talking about food.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 14, 2025 12:29 AM (Hc0oL)

309 Steak and eggs at 1230 am is one of the joys of being a dissolute bachelor.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2025 12:32 AM (bss/y)

310 Dyson makes a good vacuum cleaner, but I'm not buying the hype about his sphere.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 14, 2025 12:27 AM (CzMNg)

It sucks up photons!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 14, 2025 12:36 AM (l3YAf)

311 If you don't want to go to the trouble of building an entire Dyson sphere, you can just make a band and put it at an appropriate distance from your star, ala Larry Niven's "Ringworld" series.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 14, 2025 12:36 AM (y9QyG)

312 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2025 12:14 AM (mT+6a)

Are you feeling better, nurse? I prayed the Divine Mercy Chaplet for you yesterday.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 14, 2025 12:38 AM (l3YAf)

313 I have a Italian hoagie
Posted by: Skip

I really hope you're talking about food.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Innaccurate but Amusing Bigoted Facts at May 14, 2025 12:29 AM (Hc0oL)

I grew up calling it a sub, as in the shape of the sandwich being a 'submarine'. Now I call them heroes.

Whenever I hear someone calling them a hoagie, I think of Hoagie Carmichael and his claim to the longest song title (which I looked up),

I'm a Cranky Old Yank in a Clanky Old Tank on the Streets of Yokohama with My Honolulu Mama Doin' Those Beat-o, Beat-o Flat-On-My-Seat-o, Hirohito Blues.

Talk about stupid memory associations.

Posted by: RickZ at May 14, 2025 12:39 AM (gKDq2)

314 Doing business in Hong Kong.

youtube.com/watch?v=H2oD2ZKV7eM

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 14, 2025 12:42 AM (xYplz)

315 I grew up calling it a sub, as in the shape of the sandwich being a 'submarine'. Now I call them heroes.

Whenever I hear someone calling them a hoagie, I think of Hoagie Carmichael and his claim to the longest song title (which I looked up),

***

What’s a grinder?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 14, 2025 12:43 AM (l3YAf)

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