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Sunday Overnight Open Thread - May 4, 2025 [Doof]

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May the Fourth Be With You!

Greeted you are. Into the ONT you will step. Much fear in the lurkers I sense. Commenting you will learn to do. Fun to be had, there is!

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Non-Wholesome Content

Did you catch my guest appearances as Cafe host on Thursday and Friday? I featured lots of great wholesome content. If you missed them, go check them out - but do not comment on "old" threads.

Well, tonight I bring you something 180 degrees opposite of wholesome.

The "Delco Pooper"

Woman charged after viral video shows her defecating on a car

The Brief

- A woman dubbed the "Delco Pooper" was arrested by Prospect Park police.

- 44-year-old Christina Solemeto was taken into custody after police say she was seen defecating on another car in a viral social media video.

- Solemeto tells FOX 29 she has "a sickness."

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The video was taken Tuesday evening and has now been seen millions of times on social media. The video shows the woman getting out of her car and defecating "liquified feces" on the hood of the car of another woman, according to police. She is seen in the video smiling while getting back into her black Nissan. The same Nissan was parked outside of her home Thursday night when she was arrested. Police say it started as a road dispute and escalated.

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"I don’t know it’s been running through my mind all day since I heard about it," said one neighbor.

"Just another day in Delco," said another nearby resident.

Solameto was booked on charges including indecent exposure, disorderly conduct and a summary offense of depositing waste on the highway.

As she was getting arrested Solemeto said, "I have a sickness." Solometo didn’t elaborate on the sickness. But the bizarre case has now gotten international attention. Just not the kind this local police chief wants.

Read the whole thing. Seriously! There is a video at the link of a news clip of the story.

The actual video of the incident is out there on the interwebs. Unfortunately, I have seen it. Because that's the kind of video clips my "friends" send me sometimes.

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Munchausen Syndrome?

Man Obsessed with Firefighters Sets Fire to His Own Home Just to See His Idols

A UK man has been given a suspended prison sentence after admitting to setting fire to his own home twice in one night just so he could see firefighters in action.

Arsonists are obsessed with fire, but 26-year-old James Brown, from Northumberland, in the UK, has been described as having an obsession and a fascination with firefighters rather than fires. In an ideal world, he would be a firefighter himself, but things didn’t work out that way, so he just settled for admiring firefighters from a distance and calling the fire department incessantly. When that wasn’t enough anymore, he moved on to setting his own house on fire just to see the firefighters in action.

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According to court records, James Brown filmed the firefighters as they rushed to put out the fire and seemed quite enthusiastic by their presence on his property. A simple background check showed that the 26-year-old man had called the fire department 80 times in the previous 12 months, and Brown himself eventually pleaded guilty to two counts of arson while being reckless as to whether life was endangered.

“You have said, in an ideal world, you would be a firefighter, and you have a long-standing interest in the fire service. It’s clearly an obsession,” Judge Robert Adams recently said during his ruling. “Your primary interest seems to be contacting the fire service rather than setting fires. “You waste the resources of the fire brigade, which could be used for more important matters where lives are in danger. I hope you have learned a lesson.”

Last month, James Brown was sentenced to eight months’ suspended sentence for two years with 150 hours of unpaid work for his 2023 crimes. His lawyer said that he is “extremely remorseful” and is currently seeking help for his obsession. He has refrained from contacting the fire department since his arrest.

Dude. Really??

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May The Fourth Bring You Content

On hold for Darth Vader



Vader's voice wasn't always James Earl Jones



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'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)

It's once again that time of the week to turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.

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A Quick and Fascinating History of Kentucky Derby Hats
(did you see what I did there?)

The Kentucky Derby, often dubbed "the most exciting two minutes in sports," is as much a fashion spectacle as it is a horse race. The extravagant hats worn by attendees stand out as a symbol of elegance, creativity, and Southern charm.

The hats originated with a utilitarian purpose- to shield ladies’ faces from the sun during the Victorian era. However, mirroring European trends, the hats became opportunities to express individuality, but more importantly, social status. This really took off in the 1960s when the Derby was televised.

Beyond aesthetics, Derby hats carry a deeper significance. They celebrate Southern hospitality, femininity, and the festive spirit of the event. In today’s world, this tradition is one to be cherished. And now for the hats!

Ladies at the 1900 Kentucky Derby

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Ladies at the 1945 Derby

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2000 Derby

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Kim Kardashian in 2009

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From the 2017 Derby

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And from the 151st Running of the Roses:

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But my absolute favorite wasn’t from the Derby at all, but from the Oaks, which ran Friday at Churchill Downs - they had a pretty significant wind event occur! The dress, the hat, just stunning. She is from Dallas, and I could not find out who this dress is by- I would love to, however!

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Thank you, Piper! Hats off to you for another great fashion segment.
(See what I did there?)


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Dj Doof - May Weird Al Be With You Edition




Not Weird Al, but similar




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Tonight's ONT brought to you by The Admiral King

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Mystery click cover song


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Comments, questions, suggestions, or emotional outbursts? You can do the email thing at doof2112 at proton dot me - or, follow Mr. Doof on X @doof2112.

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Comments

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1 Yay, Motorcycle Mass and Blessing of the Bikes Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok)

2 5.3 magnitude earthquake reported in West Texas
The USGS reported that the earthquake was about 35 miles south of Whites City, New Mexico.
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Experts say it was New Mexico’s fault.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:01 PM (/X/7F)

3 ndish!

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 04, 2025 10:03 PM (VJc7E)

4 Love the hats.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 04, 2025 10:04 PM (VJc7E)

5 Seagulls! Stop it now!

Posted by: pookysgirl, recalling another SW parody at May 04, 2025 10:04 PM (Wt5PA)

6 Heeellloooo!

Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:04 PM (d2kuJ)

7 Love the Derby hats.

Posted by: Tuna at May 04, 2025 10:05 PM (lJ0H4)

8 Maybe this belongs on the gub thread.

Libs of TikTok@libsoftiktok
A restaurant owner in Minneapolis was robbed by a man with 50 PRIOR ARRESTS
After the thief's arrest, he was released from custody and robbed the owner's restaurant AGAIN
This is how Gov. Tim Walz treats criminals in his state. They're just set free!

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But Twinkletoes can speak white person code!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:05 PM (L/fGl)

9 5.3 magnitude earthquake reported in West Texas
The USGS reported that the earthquake was about 35 miles south of Whites City, New Mexico.
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Experts say it was New Mexico’s fault.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

They tell me the fault line runs right through here.

Posted by: Mama Cass at May 04, 2025 10:05 PM (TfUTr)

10 Good Evening

Posted by: French Jeton at May 04, 2025 10:05 PM (DehcO)

11 That was very funny on the hats off, Doof!

Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (d2kuJ)

12 Kim Kardashian in 2009 had some Elizabeth Taylor vibes. Just sayin.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (r2ymA)

13 Nooded

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (VJc7E)

14 Yeah, I let Blanco grab first tonight. You're welcome. I didn't have any more room on my shelf for another First trophy. Maybe when Ace gets back he can help me build more shelves.
🙄
Happy Live Long and Prosper Day
https://youtu.be/EO7xDfTks4c

Posted by: mindful webworker - exponentially at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (7URu6)

15 Evenin'

youtu.be/A1NeFpMrtvc

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (sAmhv)

16 The hats are cool and interesting. I only have ball caps, but am unlikely to go to the Kentucky Derby or a Royal wedding.

Posted by: ScaryMary at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (uksS7)

17 When you're sitting back
In your rose-pink Cadillac
Makin' bets on Kentucky Derby day
I'll be in my basement room
With a needle and a spoon
And another girl to take my pain away

Take me down, little Suzy, take me down.
I know you think you're the Queen of the Underground
And you can send me dead flowers every mornin'
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Say it with dead flowers at my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave

Posted by: Jagger/Richards at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (W5ArC)

18 Appropriately, Mel Brook's Spaceballs just ended on Laff network.

Posted by: CapeFear at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (qhuez)

19 That was very funny on the hats off, Doof!
Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (d2kuJ)


I try!

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 10:07 PM (RFPHU)

20 Problem with womens hats and dresses.
One often worders what they look like without them.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2025 10:07 PM (TfUTr)

21 FESTIVE LITTLE HATS!!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at May 04, 2025 10:08 PM (qQApd)

22 Barstool Bar has a Nazi problem (and a solution).

https://shorturl.at/lP5yG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:08 PM (L/fGl)

23 Appropriately, Mel Brook's Spaceballs just ended on Laff network.
Posted by: CapeFear at May 04, 2025 10:06 PM (qhuez)

Spaceballs was peak Denise Richards.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:08 PM (r2ymA)

24 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at May 04, 2025 10:09 PM (w3u3d)

25 Dress prOn!!

*****

From last thread:

Yeah, let's throw another trillion-plus at this bloated bureaucracy.

Trump's Pentagon policy leaves alot to be desired.
Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 09:56 PM (r2ymA)

Yeah, Trump is.. inconsistent on this point. On the one hand, of the last century of Presidents, he articulates the best the case for minding our own damned business and protecting our people.

On the other hand, he promises more money for the MIC. I want America to be safe, of course. I’m willing to pay handsomely to stay on top on technology. To always be sure our shores are safe.

But I also don’t care about who controls the Dnieper or keeping the seas safe for Chinese container ships or the Korean peninsula safe for megacorporation chaebols that undercut American workers.

Call me crazy.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 10:09 PM (l3YAf)

26 Oh Sole meatos, I have a sickness, I have a sickness
Do not arrest me I am sick, too sick to be arrested.
Oh Sole meatos

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:09 PM (/X/7F)

27 Woman charged after viral video shows her defecating on a car

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Ain't feminism wonderful?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:10 PM (L/fGl)

28
Hey.

Yo.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:11 PM (QnmlO)

29 May the Fourth! *be with you....

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 10:11 PM (g47mK)

30 Ralph Steadman: But in England everyone understands that I'm just having them on a bit.
Hunter S. Thompson: Fuck England. This is America and people take those drawings as a deadly insult. Okay, here's the deal: You won't draw them, and I won't mace them.

(they were on assignment covering the Kentucky Derby)

I don't know how many of you are familiar with Steadman's art, but he would (e.g.) draw a recognizable caricature of the subject, except that it would also be a rat vomiting into a toilet.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:11 PM (W5ArC)

31 Greetings fellow Morons.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 04, 2025 10:11 PM (CHHv1)

32 Sorry I'm late, I grabbed a marmoset instead of a lemur.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2025 10:12 PM (BN5pm)

33 27 Woman charged after viral video shows her defecating on a car

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Ain't feminism wonderful?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:10 PM (L/fGl)

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There is no try. There is only poo.

Posted by: Yoda at May 04, 2025 10:12 PM (uksS7)

34 Maryland Man continues to impress. Thanks for including Mrs. Lennon. Piper does a great job again. Excellent headgear and not a Susquehanna Hat in the bunch.

Posted by: Little Girls With Little Curls at May 04, 2025 10:12 PM (G5+As)

35 Read the whole thing. Seriously! There is a video at the link of a news clip of the story.

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Film at 11:00? Dude, I'm not German.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:12 PM (L/fGl)

36 Solemeto tells FOX 29 she has "a sickness."

Tell us something we didn't know.

The video was taken Tuesday evening and has now been seen millions of times on social media.
😝
With the pinnacle of interconnective modern communication tools and a wealth of content available online many times exceeding the knowledge base of only a few years ago, pooping woman is what millions of folks want to see.
💩
(Searches for another funny cat video)
😾

Posted by: mindful webworker - need more giggling babies! at May 04, 2025 10:13 PM (7URu6)

37 So Doof leads off with a shitty story tonight?

And pooper chick is not hot, at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:13 PM (B0Ivl)

38 Are Kentucky Derby hats in the same lineage as Black Lady's Church Hats, or are they unrelated fashion trends?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:14 PM (W5ArC)

39 Doof!
Well done😉...
Although...Yoko?!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 04, 2025 10:14 PM (taw0g)

40 Thanks for a special "fourth" ONT, Doof!

And thanks for your extra posts while Ace was in an undisclosed location.

And thanks to Piper for the Derby hat show. I like the hats from the turn of last century better than those from yesterday's race!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 04, 2025 10:14 PM (rxCpr)

41 ***Ladies at the 1900 Kentucky Derby
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Yes, those... hats are very attractive.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:14 PM (/X/7F)

42 Doof!

Good evening, Horde. I am an unabashed Mike Rowe fanboi, having consumed the entirety of his Returning The Favor (RtF) series on Facebook, and it has returned as People You Should Know. First episode is https://bit.ly/4jNqCRK and I shed unabashed tears while watching, because of callbacks to RtF, but mostly because he shows how people can help each other without big daddy government mucking up the works.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 04, 2025 10:15 PM (v23vE)

43 39 Doof!
Well done😉...
Although...Yoko?!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 04, 2025 10:14 PM (taw0g)

He has a hidden mean streak.

Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:15 PM (d2kuJ)

44 Thanks Doof & Piper! Great content!

Posted by: Iris at May 04, 2025 10:15 PM (bOJ2I)

45 Darth Vader sounds amazingly similar to Gagravarr, Custodian of the Total Perspective Vortex on Frogstar World B.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 10:15 PM (D7oie)

46 Black Lady's Church Hats:

https://tinyurl.com/2h66b5tk

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:15 PM (W5ArC)

47 Food!

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:16 PM (77rzZ)

48 Everyone is welcome on the hats. It was fun!

Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:16 PM (d2kuJ)

49 Doing a great job there, Piper!

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (g47mK)

50 ***Ladies at the 1945 Derby
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They brainstormed the three stooges.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (/X/7F)

51
Overtime hockey, can't beat it. You'd think teams would play carefully to avoid mistakes but, if anything, they play with even greater abandon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (QnmlO)

52 Back when the world was more civilized:
http://bit.ly/4k7PW4D

Posted by: Warren G. Harding haz a sad at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (/o0Hl)

53 Were any of the music links "You Can Leave Your Hat On", as recorded by Joe Cocker? Because surely one ought to be.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (B0Ivl)

54 All women need is beautiful hair. Hats are superfluous.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (77rzZ)

55 I'll take 1900, thank you.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:18 PM (/X/7F)

56 Jagger/Richards have been excellent songwriters for over 60 years. They even wrote several of the best country songs ever written-Dead Flowers being among them. Just to prove they could.

Posted by: Wild Horses at May 04, 2025 10:18 PM (G5+As)

57 Happy Live Long and Prosper Day

"Use the Force, Harry!" -Gandalf

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 10:18 PM (yko4N)

58 Man Obsessed with Firefighters Sets Fire to His Own Home Just to See His Idols

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Well, sounds more exciting than coin collecting for a hobby.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:18 PM (L/fGl)

59 The hat that’s a giant flower is just too much for my taste. But why not wear a fashionable, individualistic hat that actually protects you from the sun?! That’s why I wear hats, and while I don’t mind being reasonably fashionable, I want a hat a hat that does it’s job: keep the sun off my face and neck, and out of my eyes, and even keep the stray raindrop off my face. Hats should do their job!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:18 PM (6nn2F)

60 43 Piper
He has a hidden mean streak.

Shades of Mis.Hum when he was feeling mean...🤒

Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 04, 2025 10:19 PM (taw0g)

61 > They even wrote several of the best country songs ever written-Dead Flowers being among them.

Yes... old-school Chuck Berry-style rock-and-roll, classic rock, country, blues, psychedelia, and even disco.

They can play pretty much any musical genre that's ever been invented.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:20 PM (W5ArC)

62 The last hat, the one from the Oaks, looks like a snapshot of a rifle bullet passing through some material. Either that, or it's a particle accelerator showing the discovery of the Higgs boson.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2025 10:20 PM (s8j++)

63 Problem with womens hats and dresses.
One often worders what they look like without them.
Posted by: Some Rat at May 04, 2025 10:07 PM (TfUTr)
* * * *
And I'm thinking that is the desired effect...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at May 04, 2025 10:21 PM (rxCpr)

64 I often make fun of hats and fashion talk on the ONT, but for the Kentucky Derby I will make an exception.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2025 10:21 PM (lHPJf)

65 I was almost expecting to see Carmen Miranda in thst line-up of millinery.

Posted by: tankdemon at May 04, 2025 10:21 PM (BN5pm)

66 For all you May 4 Star Wars geeks, check out the Ealing Studios flick Kind Hearts and Coronets.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:21 PM (77rzZ)

67 I only see a first and a second in that pic up top. No fourth.

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2025 10:21 PM (wbjSL)

68 Use the Schwartz, Lone Star

-- Yogurt

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2025 10:21 PM (VNX3d)

69 59 The hat that’s a giant flower is just too much for my taste. But why not wear a fashionable, individualistic hat that actually protects you from the sun?! That’s why I wear hats, and while I don’t mind being reasonably fashionable, I want a hat a hat that does it’s job: keep the sun off my face and neck, and out of my eyes, and even keep the stray raindrop off my face. Hats should do their job!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May

It’s fashion! (I think I am supposed to roll my eyes and say that really nasally to be authentic)

Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:22 PM (d2kuJ)

70 Piper
He has a hidden mean streak.

Shades of Mis.Hum when he was feeling mean...🤒
Posted by: COMountainMarie at May 04, 2025 10:19 PM (taw0g)


It's Admiral Ackbar - a trap is a must!

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 10:22 PM (RFPHU)

71 Happy Live Long and Prosper Day

"Use the Force, Harry!" -Gandalf
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 10:18 PM (yko4N)


I saw a meme like that earlier today, only it was subtitled "May the 4th Be Ever In Your Favor!"

You should always strive to enrage multiple fanbases at once.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 04, 2025 10:23 PM (lHPJf)

72 Derby lady hats are supposed to be over the top ! (see what I did there?)

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (g47mK)

73 22 Barstool Bar has a Nazi problem (and a solution).

https://shorturl.at/lP5yG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:08 PM


My solution? Give some 94 y.o. ladies with numbers tatooed on their arms a sock full of nickels and let them educate the Nazi wannabes.

If their arms get tired, maybe I would help out a little old lady with her chores for a bit.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (HlyYF)

74 Women should cover their hair in church, hat or veil, whatever. It’s a question of modesty. Hence Melania’s scarf at the late Pope’s funeral.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (6nn2F)

75 Most women’s hats are stupid.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

76 Overtime hockey, can't beat it. You'd think teams would play carefully to avoid mistakes but, if anything, they play with even greater abandon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (QnmlO)


Game 7 OT!! Nothing like playoff hockey!!!

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (RFPHU)

77 those 1900's ladies- ooh laa la
mucho heart racing

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at May 04, 2025 10:25 PM (iNp3L)

78 The hat that’s a giant flower is just too much for my taste. But why not wear a fashionable, individualistic hat that actually protects you from the sun?! That’s why I wear hats, and while I don’t mind being reasonably fashionable, I want a hat a hat that does it’s job: keep the sun off my face and neck, and out of my eyes, and even keep the stray raindrop off my face. Hats should do their job!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May

We've been looking for a new Cowboy. Sounds like you'll do.

Posted by: The Village People at May 04, 2025 10:25 PM (yko4N)

79 74 What is immodest about women’s hair in church?

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:25 PM (77rzZ)

80 I'll have to see that Star Wars movie some day, maybe ET, too.

Posted by: huerfano at May 04, 2025 10:26 PM (n2swS)

81 Good evening y gracias doof

I supposed most habitable planets will be binary systems.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 10:26 PM (RIvkX)

82 From what I know about Phillies, Eagles, and Flyers fans, and Philadelphians in general, I would expect to have my car shit on if I went there, which I won't.

Posted by: Sweet Rural Shade at May 04, 2025 10:26 PM (G5+As)

83 > 79 74 What is immodest about women’s hair in church?
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:25 PM (77rzZ)

Back in the days when accidentally seeing an ankle would produce an instant boner, seeing pretty much any female body part led to Impure Thoughts, I guess.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:27 PM (W5ArC)

84
Women should cover their hair in church, hat or veil, whatever. It’s a question of modesty. Hence Melania’s scarf at the late Pope’s funeral.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (6nn2F)

________

Just about every woman at my parish wears a veil or hat at Mass.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:27 PM (QnmlO)

85 Better than the Star Wars jokes: in honor of the day

https://is.gd/5meX4H

because it’s 5/4.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:27 PM (6nn2F)

86 Overtime hockey, can't beat it. You'd think teams would play carefully to avoid mistakes but, if anything, they play with even greater abandon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM (QnmlO)

Yeah, no better drama in Sports. Winnipeg ties it with 1.6 left.
But it will never get much coverage in the US sports media.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:27 PM (r2ymA)

87 Because that's the kind of video clips my "friends" send me sometimes.

You need new friends.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 10:27 PM (mWSu4)

88 51 Overtime hockey, can't beat it. You'd think teams would play carefully to avoid mistakes but, if anything, they play with even greater abandon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:17 PM


I know they want to win, but at some point I think you have been checked into the boards enough for one day's work that you are willing to take some chances just to clock out.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 04, 2025 10:28 PM (HlyYF)

89 Women should cover their hair in church, hat or veil, whatever. It’s a question of modesty. Hence Melania’s scarf at the late Pope’s funeral.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (6nn2F)

Where does that come from, though? I’m not opposed to it. In fact, I support the recent trend of young Catholic women veiling.

But why does it matter? I want to make sure I’m adopting tradition from savory sources.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 10:28 PM (l3YAf)

90 May the Fourth be with you - unless you only have a three-speed stick shift.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2025 10:28 PM (VNX3d)

91 I didn't have any more room on my shelf for another First trophy.


There's trophies? All I ever got was a vaguely threatening email.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (lUFok)

92 Star Wars Day. It was amazing how the movie took the country by storm. I recall seeing TV ads for it. I was finishing my college sophomore year. It looked interesting but I wrote it off as a war in space B movie. I didn't intend to spend money to see it in a theater. Two weeks later word had spread that it was a must see and I was standing in a long line to get a ticket.

A week after that, it had become such a phenomenon that my mom said she wanted to see it and asked me to go along with her. She was afraid to go to a movie by herself. My mom wanting to see a sci-fi type movie in first-run at a theater told me the movie was the biggest thing in the country at the time.

I ended up seeing Star Wars five times in 1977. Twice in Phoenix, twice in Santa Fe, NM where I was working a summer job, and once in mid-October in Houston (with a group of fellow college students who like me had seen it several times before).

Incredible.

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (aBgBM)

93 I ran across the wackiest conspiracy theory - Tartaria.

In the real world Tartaria is a name for a region in central asia. It has historically been undeveloped and backward.

The conspiracy theory though claims it was the most advanced civilization but then at some point between the 1700s and now it was destroyed by a mud flood.

The evidence? Well, a lot of buildings from the 1800s around the world look the same and...people back then look too primitive to have built them.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (t0Rmr)

94 But my absolute favorite wasn’t from the Derby at all, but from the Oaks, which ran Friday at Churchill Downs

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Is that a Georgia O'Keeffe vagina hat? Because it looks like Georgia O'Keeffe vagina hat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (L/fGl)

95
I have a couple hats that are sort of like those Derby hats. They don't keep my head warm, and they don't keep the sun out of my eyes. They are hard to keep on my head. People think they're really cool and want to know where I got them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (U7Gpi)

96 Barstool Bar has a Nazi problem (and a solution).

https://shorturl.at/lP5yG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:08 PM

Twitchy has a problem, too. It's fucking near unreadable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (B0Ivl)

97 Fun Fact: The ornate brass and Lalique glass radiator caps and hood ornaments were developed to discourage Car-Crappers

Posted by: Ounce of Prevention at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (G5+As)

98 What is immodest about women’s hair in church?
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:25 PM (77rzZ)

Show up on a Sunday morning just once with a condom wrapper stuck in your hair, and you never hear the end of it.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 04, 2025 10:30 PM (yko4N)

99 The hold-musicification of the Imperial March is fantastic!

Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2025 10:31 PM (wbjSL)

100 83 Women should dress appropriately feminine in church, but not provacatively. Same for men.

I don’t see how hair enters into it.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:31 PM (77rzZ)

101 > Show up on a Sunday morning just once with a condom wrapper stuck in your hair, and you never hear the end of it.
Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 04, 2025 10:30 PM (yko4N)

On the other hand, I never have to buy hairspray or gel.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 04, 2025 10:32 PM (W5ArC)

102 I think the puppy has settled, the cats got their midnight snacks, I am off to bed! Glad y’all enjoyed the hats! Sleep well!

Posted by: Piper at May 04, 2025 10:32 PM (BgmlQ)

103 > I don’t see how hair enters into it.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:31 PM (77rzZ)

You don't think a beautiful head of hair on a woman is sexy?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 04, 2025 10:32 PM (W5ArC)

104 Thinking about starting a rumor that Trump is going to levy a tariff on Chinese food, just to stir up stupid people.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (lUFok)

105 Where does that come from, though? I’m not opposed to it. In fact, I support the recent trend of young Catholic women veiling.

But why does it matter? I want to make sure I’m adopting tradition from savory sources.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 10:28 PM (l3YAf)

To me, it comes uncomfortably close to muzzies putting their women in hijabs or toebags.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (B0Ivl)

106 Veils/hats in church are a holdover from the desert culture in the middle east of covering women up so that men aren't tempted. It's Western Civilization's version of the hijab, although it predates that by centuries. Same reason the wives of very devout rabbis shave their hair and wear wigs.

Nowadays it is merely a sign of respect and a chance to dress up, but it stems from women being made to cover up.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (Vvh2V)

107 "Tonight's ONT brought to you by The (Admiral) King"*

Admiral Ackbar, of Horde fame, would be proud of your aural ear bleach link, Monsieur Doof.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 04, 2025 10:34 PM (zqoNi)

108 > In the real world Tartaria is a name for a region in central asia. It has historically been undeveloped and backward.

Sauces and raw steak are pretty much their only claims to fame.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:34 PM (W5ArC)

109 The hold-musicification of the Imperial March is fantastic!
Posted by: GWB at May 04, 2025 10:31 PM (wbjSL)


Agree! I've watched that more times than I can count, and it is great every time.

Tawny Platis is very talented and also funny. Did I also mention that she's cute?

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 10:34 PM (RFPHU)

110 Evening Horde , thx Doof.
I was expecting a mystery click of Elvis or maybe even The Fine Young Cannibals doing Suspicious Minds. But alas, just Yoko. I need a drink

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 04, 2025 10:35 PM (rp63B)

111 > Nowadays it is merely a sign of respect and a chance to dress up, but it stems from women being made to cover up.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (Vvh2V)

Eh... pretty sure that men don't usually go to church in muscle shirts and speedos, either.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:35 PM (W5ArC)

112 In the real world Tartaria is a name for a region in central asia. It has historically been undeveloped and backward.

It was originally named MacadamMacadamia, but that was thought to be too Hawaiian.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2025 10:36 PM (s8j++)

113 In the real world Tartaria is a name for a region in central asia. It has historically been undeveloped and backward.

The conspiracy theory though claims it was the most advanced civilization but then at some point between the 1700s and now it was destroyed by a mud flood.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (t0Rmr)

Tartaria is nice, but it's no Plateau of Leng

Posted by: H.P. Lovecraft at May 04, 2025 10:36 PM (yko4N)

114 American women wearing hats nowadays just doesn't work. It's very unusual for starters, and when it is done the women seem to go for gaudy monstrosities that do not make the wearers any prettier or more beautiful.

Fight me!

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (aBgBM)

115 I ended up seeing Star Wars five times in 1977. Twice in Phoenix, twice in Santa Fe, NM where I was working a summer job, and once in mid-October in Houston (with a group of fellow college students who like me had seen it several times before).

Incredible.
Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (aBgBM)

Seeing Stars Wars then was something that this current generation could not even imagine. Something so totally new.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (r2ymA)

116 It was originally named MacadamMacadamia, but that was thought to be too Hawaiian.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 04, 2025 10:36 PM (s8j++)

That's just nutty.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (B0Ivl)

117 92 Star Wars Day. [...]
A week after that, it had become such a phenomenon that my mom said she wanted to see it and asked me to go along with her. She was afraid to go to a movie by herself. My mom wanting to see a sci-fi type movie in first-run at a theater told me the movie was the biggest thing in the country at the time.

I ended up seeing Star Wars five times in 1977. Twice in Phoenix, twice in Santa Fe, NM where I was working a summer job, and once in mid-October in Houston (with a group of fellow college students who like me had seen it several times before).

Incredible.
Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (aBgBM)


Howdy Gref! Hope all is well with you.

I press-ganged my folks into taking ten-year-old me to see the original Star Wars for the second time. I think that diminished their respect for me, but in any event, that was the first movie I ever saw 2x in a theater.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (v23vE)

118 Little known fact: Adam had a son named after himself, who became the progenitor of the Scots.

Name: Adam MacAdam.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (W5ArC)

119
To me, it comes uncomfortably close to muzzies putting their women in hijabs or toebags.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (B0Ivl)

_________

There's a ton of difference between a woman wearing a veil in church to show submission to the Lord in His House and a woman wearing a hijab because Muslim men might otherwise get aroused.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (QnmlO)

120 But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her;for her hair is given to her as a covering.

I Corinthians 11:14-15

Posted by: Head Pontificator at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (G5+As)

121 I ran across the wackiest conspiracy theory

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I saw one that contends that alien abductions are not really alien abductions. That's just a cover story for the military abducting people, brain washing them, and doing other experiments on them. Well, if the branch of the military doing this is the Navy, it explains the anal probes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (L/fGl)

122 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:35 PM (

Certainly not. But they don't cover their heads. Au contraire.

I don't have a problem with it, just saying that it comes from the tradition of married women being veiled, long before Judaism, let alone Christianity.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (Vvh2V)

123 Evening Horde , thx Doof.
I was expecting a mystery click of Elvis or maybe even The Fine Young Cannibals doing Suspicious Minds. But alas, just Yoko. I need a drink
Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 04, 2025 10:35 PM (rp63B)


FYC was in the running. I've used that version on a previous ONT. With the Admiral - it had to be something unexpected.

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (RFPHU)

124 How does one explain belly dancers with veils ?

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 10:39 PM (VofaG)

125 103 Yes, I love women’s hair. But that doesn’t mean that women need to cover it up. Any more than naturally large-breasted women need to unnaturally bind their breasts.

People are as God makes them. How I respond to the way He made them is between me and God. The people under consideration are not at fault, so long as they are not being deliberately provocative.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:39 PM (77rzZ)

126 Seeing Stars Wars then was something that this current generation could not even imagine. Something so totally new.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (r2ymA)

Exactly.

They have everything at their fingertips, so nothing is special. They wait for nothing, so nothing is exciting!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 10:39 PM (mWSu4)

127 I have a couple hats that are sort of like those Derby hats. They don't keep my head warm, and they don't keep the sun out of my eyes. They are hard to keep on my head. People think they're really cool and want to know where I got them.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2025 10:29 PM (U7Gpi)

You need a brand new leopard-skin pillbox hat:

https://youtu.be/lOCYQtrm19s

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:39 PM (B0Ivl)

128 the "Delco Pooper" ...

Men caught urinating in public are usually tagged as exposing themselves and get a lifetime subscription to being a "sex offender".

Does Delco Pooper get this prize too?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2025 10:39 PM (/lPRQ)

129 104 Thinking about starting a rumor that Trump is going to levy a tariff on Chinese food, just to stir up stupid people.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (lUFok)


Do it. The widespread shrieking from Trump-h@ters will be epic.

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:40 PM (aBgBM)

130 I recall seeing the first trailer for Star Wars, and laughing about what a rotten movie it was bound to be.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 10:40 PM (yko4N)

131 27 Woman charged after viral video shows her defecating on a car

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Ain't feminism wonderful?



"You are a pooper in the rectum alliance and a shitter! Flush her away!"

Posted by: Darth Sphincter at May 04, 2025 10:40 PM (fIPNY)

132 79 74 What is immodest about women’s hair in church?
Posted by: Bulg
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You know, that old story about a woman letting her hair down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:41 PM (/X/7F)

133 The belly dancers aren't veiled in Scotland, even when performing the Dance of The Seven Army Blankets.

Posted by: Hoot Mon! at May 04, 2025 10:41 PM (G5+As)

134

The Kentucky Derby was postponed in 1945 due to a temporary ban on horse racing imposed by the U.S. government during World War II, as the resources and manpower were needed for the war effort. The race was eventually held on June 9, 1945, after the ban was lifted following the end of the war in Europe.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2025 10:42 PM (63Dwl)

135 There's a ton of difference between a woman wearing a veil in church to show submission to the Lord in His House and a woman wearing a hijab because Muslim men might otherwise get aroused.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (QnmlO)

Why should only the women have to show submission in this fashion?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:42 PM (B0Ivl)

136 I saw one that contends that alien abductions are not really alien abductions. That's just a cover story for the military abducting people, brain washing them, and doing other experiments on them. Well, if the branch of the military doing this is the Navy, it explains the anal probes.

There are a lot of variants on "the real abductors are..." and I've seen them listed as:

Future Humans
Humans working for aliens
The government
Demons

And if there is something to the experience I'd say the latter is actually the most believable.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 10:43 PM (t0Rmr)

137 Howdy Gref! Hope all is well with you.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (v23vE)

Howdy back at ya, my friend! All is well with me. I hope the same is true for you!

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:43 PM (aBgBM)

138 Does Delco Pooper get this prize too?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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No, she has a sickness.


some people just don't understand

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:44 PM (/X/7F)

139 There's a ton of difference between a woman wearing a veil in church to show submission to the Lord in His House and a woman wearing a hijab because Muslim men might otherwise get aroused.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (QnmlO)

Why should only the women have to show submission in this fashion?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:42 PM (B0Ivl)

There's a goat joke in there somewhere.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 10:44 PM (yko4N)

140 It’s from St. Paul: 1 Cor 11.1-16, It’s controversial. My church doesn’t require it, but our pastor has explained that it prohibits immodest dress in church. That seems a reasonable application to the present day. You have to know that in the early church women adorned their hair with various fancies. It was an attempt at a come on, an enticement to men. Same could be said about young women wearing tube tops or the like to church. It has an ungodly effect, whether intentional or not (it’s often intentional). Really, I think modest dress is all that’s required. I don’t really demand hats or veils. But I think hats are becoming on women, and more women should wear them (as long they are practical!).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:44 PM (6nn2F)

141 I think long hair makes any woman look younger than they are. I don't think older women should cut their hair.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 10:45 PM (VofaG)

142 If it was merely submission to God, men would cover their heads as well. We see that in the kippah.

I am merely saying that the tradition of women covering their heads in church is an old one, the origin of which goes back to a time and culture that predates Christianity.

I wear a hat most of the time when I go to church and I always travel with a scarf when abroad, to show respect as needed, be at a church, synagogue, mosque or temple.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:45 PM (Vvh2V)

143 I don't have a problem with it, just saying that it comes from the tradition of married women being veiled, long before Judaism, let alone Christianity.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (Vvh2V)

And distinct from the savages of Islam, whose idea of a woman is as chattel, and hiding them from the world with hijabs and worse is considered the only way to deal with femininity.

Because they are sexually inadequate and need to control women....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 10:45 PM (mWSu4)

144 Star Wars hits the subway.
https://youtu.be/J5gCeWEGiQI

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 04, 2025 10:45 PM (klJTj)

145
Why should only the women have to show submission in this fashion?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:42 PM (B0Ivl)

_________

The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. - 1 Corinthians 11:7

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:47 PM (QnmlO)

146 As a ten year old boy I was transfixed seeing Star Wars on the big screen.

A ten year old boy today would be indifferent to it after a few years of watching porn on his phone.

Glad I was born when I was.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:47 PM (r2ymA)

147 It’s modesty not submission. See what I said at 140.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:48 PM (6nn2F)

148 >>> climate update: Global temperatures have returned to early 2023 levels.

-- > Everything old is new again

https://youtu.be/ZRVv2b-hL_0?t=91

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:49 PM (/X/7F)

149 I never got the whole head-covering thing anyway, even for males in Islam and some branches of Judaism. Why would the top of the head offend God?

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:49 PM (77rzZ)

150 126 Seeing Stars Wars then was something that this current generation could not even imagine. Something so totally new.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 10:37 PM (r2ymA)

Exactly.

They have everything at their fingertips, so nothing is special. They wait for nothing, so nothing is exciting!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 10:39 PM (mWSu4)

Star Wars really was something. Saw it first day, first showing in May 1977. My son was even more impressed when I told him that I saw Empire Strikes Back on its opening day, first showing as well. I will never forget leaving the Loews Astor Plaza theater in Times Square that day to find a sea of people waiting to get in to watch the next showing. They wanted to know how it was, and there was no way we were going to tell them about Darth Vader and Luke. We instinctively knew that it would be beyond terrible to spoil the surprise for them.

I truly lived in a wonderful age. I wouldn't trade that time for anything.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 04, 2025 10:50 PM (zqoNi)

151 Love seeing the hats Piper!

Posted by: lin-duh at May 04, 2025 10:50 PM (VCgbV)

152 130 I recall seeing the first trailer for Star Wars, and laughing about what a rotten movie it was bound to be.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 10:40 PM (yko4N)


Same here. Up till then, sci-fi movies with spacecraft blasting away at each other, were schlok films mostly made in Italy or Japan, with cheap sets and cheesy models of spacecraft. And lousy special effects.

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:50 PM (aBgBM)

153 _________

The man indeed ought not to cover his head, because he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of the man. - 1 Corinthians 11:7
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Good thing Trump said Two Corinthians.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:51 PM (/X/7F)

154 It’s modesty not submission. See what I said at 140.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 10:48 PM (6nn2F)

So dress in a manner appropriate to a formal office. Fair enough.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:51 PM (B0Ivl)

155 I'll take 1900, thank you.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

Concur.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2025 10:51 PM (/lPRQ)

156 129 104 Thinking about starting a rumor that Trump is going to levy a tariff on Chinese food, just to stir up stupid people.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (lUFok)


Do it. The widespread shrieking from Trump-h@ters will be epic.
Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 10:40 PM (aBgBM)

Since tomorrow is Cinco de Mayo, a rumor about a tariff on Mexican food would be timely.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 04, 2025 10:51 PM (VNX3d)

157 149 I never got the whole head-covering thing anyway, even for males in Islam and some branches of Judaism. Why would the top of the head offend God?
Posted by: Bulg
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It's where he puts his hand.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:52 PM (/X/7F)

158 Good thing Trump said Two Corinthians.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:51 PM (/X/7F)

I see four Corinthians, all upholstered in fine leather.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:52 PM (B0Ivl)

159 Woman charged after viral video shows her defecating on a car

Damn it, Ricky Bobby !!! You get off your ass and help that lady down. And help me use this remote to find ESPN. The Cowboys are on !!!

Posted by: Big Belly Boomer at May 04, 2025 10:52 PM (MEYgk)

160 157 ?????

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:53 PM (77rzZ)

161 I'm more a fan of Star Trek than Star Wars.

But I do note that Star Wars attracts way more women as fans.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 10:53 PM (VofaG)

162 I'm sure Darth Vader being voiced by David Prowse sounds strange to 'Muricans, but you really need to be British to truly understand the absolute hilarity of hearing Vader with a West-country/Bristol accent.

Posted by: Bluekollar at May 04, 2025 10:54 PM (OxfnK)

163 I ddg'd on "st paul on hair on men and women" and read the blurbs returned. I was going to click through further, but got enough info without doing that.

I was going to quote some here, but, heck, y'all can ejjimicate yerselves if you're that interested. I have some videos to watch…

Posted by: mindful webworker - long-haired freaky people at May 04, 2025 10:55 PM (7URu6)

164 And I'm not saying that the reason churches prefer it now is to prevent men from being aroused, just that it originated thousands of years ago for more or less that reason, or perhaps to signify that a woman was married, and therefore having sex, and no longer pure, which comes back to respect, I suppose.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:55 PM (Vvh2V)

165 Thinking about starting a rumor that Trump is going to levy a tariff on Chinese food, just to stir up stupid people.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310

They can have my General Tso when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:55 PM (L/fGl)

166 160 157 ?????
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:53 PM (77rzZ)

Nah, don't stop him. He's on a roll.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 04, 2025 10:56 PM (zqoNi)

167 General Washington's chicken !

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 10:56 PM (g47mK)

168 Doof: you were doing just fine until the god awful hidden click. Last time I heard something so horrible was two feral cats trying to chase each other away.

But thanks for the " May the Fourth be with you" roundup. I truly have to admit everything since the original trilogy has been nothing more than pure, unadulterated bull guano. I liked Quigon Jinn, but George killed him off. George wasn't going to have another Han Solo on his hands, stealing the spotlight.

The Lord of the Ring trilogy over lapped the prequels, and it was pathetic. The LotR trailers showed real characters doing real things. The Prequel trailers were nothing more than "Look at these wonderful sfx! And even more sfx! You're going to love these fantastic sfx!"

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 04, 2025 10:56 PM (xoECP)

169 >> Same could be said about young women wearing tube tops or the like to church. It has an ungodly effect, whether intentional or not (it’s often intentional). Really, I think modest dress is all that’s required

I tend to agree. I go to a church where some women veil and some wear yoga pants. It seems unbalanced. But I don’t to be fighting a boner while waiting to take the Eucharist. Seems undignified for all involved.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 10:57 PM (l3YAf)

170
I'm sure Darth Vader being voiced by David Prowse sounds strange to 'Muricans

_________

Wasn't Prowse the one the studio said they couldn't give him a cut because Star Wars hadn't made a profit?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 10:57 PM (QnmlO)

171 I've been called the most exciting 2 minutes in sex.

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at May 04, 2025 10:57 PM (szqEY)

172 John Leonard Orr was an arson investigator and fire captain in Glendale, CA. Convicted of serial arson and four murders. Is said to have lit 2,000 fires over a 30-year period. Most occurred between 1984-91.

Posted by: Forensic Files at May 04, 2025 10:58 PM (G5+As)

173 climate update: Global temperatures have returned to early 2023 levels.

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Is there nothing President Trump can't do?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 10:58 PM (L/fGl)

174 The Lord of the Ring trilogy over lapped the prequels, and it was pathetic. The LotR trailers showed real characters doing real things. The Prequel trailers were nothing more than "Look at these wonderful sfx! And even more sfx! You're going to love these fantastic sfx!"
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 04, 2025 10:56 PM (xoECP)

What's funny is that the SFX from Episodes 4 and 5 look more timeless than those of the prequel trilogy. They looked dated ten years ago.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 04, 2025 10:58 PM (zqoNi)

175
youtube.com/watch?v=x5YP_oLcgpg&t=59s

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 10:59 PM (/X/7F)

176 And I'm not saying that the reason churches prefer it now is to prevent men from being aroused, just that it originated thousands of years ago for more or less that reason, or perhaps to signify that a woman was married, and therefore having sex, and no longer pure, which comes back to respect, I suppose.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:55 PM (Vvh2V)

This makes the most sense to me.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (l3YAf)

177 I like long long hair on women too. It’s sort of like the really young kids who think the difference between girls and and boys is the length of their hair (I’m talking really innocent children!). Anyway I once said that in passing to my late wife, and she let her hair grow long. I really liked it more than I thought I would! Later she got cancer, and all the hair came off. We bought her wigs, and when she went into remission, her hair grew back, a little different from before. I still miss her.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (6nn2F)

178 Can we get over the idea that Paul’s personal preferences in worship are binding on all Christians?

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (77rzZ)

179 Piper: Thanks for the hats. The gal from Dallas was truly the winner. Rose rather icky pink, and the hat made the whole outfit pop!

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (xoECP)

180 Hardware Wars was better: https://youtu.be/ccfbw2RJ3ow

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 11:01 PM (lUFok)

181 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 10:45 PM (mWSu4)

I hate to say this, but the older I get, the more I understand why A-rabs think women ought to be covered up, locked up, and not let out without supervision! 🤣🤣🤣

But your point is well taken. 😉

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:02 PM (Vvh2V)

182 161 I'm more a fan of Star Trek than Star Wars.

But I do note that Star Wars attracts way more women as fans.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 10:53 PM (VofaG)


How many women watching Star Trek TOS then and now looked up to Yeoman Rand (secretary) or Lt. Uhuru (telephone operator) or Kirk's bimbo of the week?

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 11:02 PM (aBgBM)

183 164 And I'm not saying that the reason churches prefer it now is to prevent men from being aroused, just that it originated thousands of years ago for more or less that reason, or perhaps to signify that a woman was married, and therefore having sex, and no longer pure, which comes back to respect, I suppose.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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There's a story about tradition being around so long that people forget why it exists. Then they cancel the tradition and the problem it was created for comes back.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:02 PM (/X/7F)

184 The ladies might like the similar hats in the "Ascot Gavotte" number in that great musical "My Fair Lady".

https://tinyurl.com/bdh74fwv

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 04, 2025 11:03 PM (vExMx)

185 I still miss her.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (6nn2F)

I’m sorry, dude.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:03 PM (l3YAf)

186 178 Can we get over the idea that Paul’s personal preferences in worship are binding on all Christians?
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (77rzZ)

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Ooh. A theological debate.

Count me in.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2025 11:04 PM (hY4dx)

187 183 The number “Tradition!” from Fiddler on the Roof has entered the chat.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:04 PM (77rzZ)

188 Guy in my high school class was a probationary fireman in the volunteer fire dept. in my hometown. Obsessed with the whole culture and excitement. He was maybe a little low IQ and kinda strange. He loved to race in his Celica to the firehouse when the siren went off. Cops stopped him several times for excessive speed and that was the excuse to finally wash him out of the program. Town was better off.

Another guy in my HS class died age 21, when he slipped off the pumper and fell under the wheels as it left the firehouse.

Posted by: Fireman, Save My Child! at May 04, 2025 11:05 PM (G5+As)

189 Paul’s personal preferences aren’t the point. His intent was to prevent sexual provocation in church. And that intent is the inspired word of God, and you risk much to doubt it.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:06 PM (6nn2F)

190 "Women should cover their hair in church, hat or veil, whatever. It’s a question of modesty. Hence Melania’s scarf at the late Pope’s funeral."


YEAH MODESTY. I KEEL THEM IF THEY DON'T

Posted by: Achmed Mohammad at May 04, 2025 11:07 PM (szqEY)

191 FoxTrot's contribution to Star Wars Day (link goes to foxtrot.com):

https://tinyurl.com/55msnpjd

Posted by: Biden's Lonely Neuron at May 04, 2025 11:07 PM (DR8E2)

192 Dog had to go out to drop a mohammed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:08 PM (S8BjZ)

193 or perhaps to signify that a woman was married, and therefore having sex, and no longer pure, which comes back to respect, I suppose.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 10:55 PM (Vvh2V)


A woman's purity is not dependent on her sexual activity.

And covering a woman's hair doesn't make her pure, neither does it hide her possible impurity.

It is also radically different than the covering of women in Islam. That is pure subjugation, and fear of a woman's sexuality.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 11:08 PM (mWSu4)

194 190 "Women should cover their hair in church, hat or veil, whatever. It’s a question of modesty. Hence Melania’s scarf at the late Pope’s funeral."
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Melania was the best and most appropriately dressed woman at the funeral.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:08 PM (/X/7F)

195 Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 11:02 PM (aBgBM)

Is Princess Leia that big of a role model? She was the only female in Star Wars right?

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 11:08 PM (VofaG)

196 189 Yeah, I get a lot of sexual provocation in church from women not covering their hair.

Grow up.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:08 PM (77rzZ)

197 I hate to say this, but the older I get, the more I understand why A-rabs think women ought to be covered up, locked up, and not let out without supervision!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:02 PM (Vvh2V)

Obviously Women in the West have gotten totally out of control and Moslems are largely more correct in their notions of the place of women in society.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (r2ymA)

198 178 Can we get over the idea that Paul’s personal preferences in worship are binding on all Christians?
Posted by: Bulg

No, Bulg.
"Holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:21

There's no personal opinion in the Bible. All dictated and preserved by the Lord.

Posted by: Fireman, Save My Child! at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (G5+As)

199
It is also radically different than the covering of women in Islam. That is pure subjugation, and fear of a woman's sexuality.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Why do women cover their hair at synogog?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (/X/7F)

200 170 - It could be, though almost certainly none of the actors received a 'cut' as part of their original deal. It is known George Lucas gave Alec Guiness a small percentage after 'Star Wars' exploded (though it did not stop Guiness from criticising the movie, or at least over-enthusiastic fans). Not sure if other stars received 'cuts', but certainly they were paid better for the sequels..

Oh - and Weird Al is, of course, a genius. Not all the song parodies hold up over the years, but 'Yoda' is awesome - and seeing how Mark Hamill did indeed play his part till he was 'old and grey', prophetic...

Posted by: dev2000man at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (OVaMN)

201 I don't get "Star Wars Day". It's a movie. OK. Next?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:10 PM (S8BjZ)

202 But I don’t to be fighting a boner while waiting to take the Eucharist. Seems undignified for all involved.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 10:57 PM (l3YAf)

Yea, see, that's why the Muzzies do it. They can't risk having boners 24/7, so in to the bags go the wimmenz.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:10 PM (Vvh2V)

203 I see I am speaking to doubters and conflaters. May the Holy Ghost soften your heart, that you may hear and know the Truth. God bless you!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:11 PM (6nn2F)

204
There's a story about tradition being around so long that people forget why it exists. Then they cancel the tradition and the problem it was created for comes back.

Posted by: Braenyard
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Parallel with Chesterton's fence?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2025 11:11 PM (XeU6L)

205 Star Wars is lame and ghey and they put a chick in it.

Star Trek has Shatner. Case closed.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 11:11 PM (RIvkX)

206 75 Most women’s hats are stupid.
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

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Have you seen the one with the N scale railroad that circles the brim?

Not stupid.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2025 11:11 PM (hY4dx)

207 Why do women cover their hair at synogog?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (/X/7F)

Modesty and respect. And if you think that is anywhere near what Islam demands, then you need to learn about a woman's place in Judaism.

[It's spelled, "Synagogue."]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 11:11 PM (mWSu4)

208 Good evening, Horde. Thanks Doof and Piper. Akbar got me - was singing Fine Young Cannibals while doing yard work today. Thought, "Oh cool," and clicked the link. Damn you Doof.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (41CYW)

209 You let them uncover their hair and, next thing you know, they're pooping on cars.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (L/fGl)

210 Of course, I tell someone I’m arguing theology with to grow up, when we have folks here discussing Star Wars.

It’s the Star Wars folks who need to grow up first.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (77rzZ)

211 Yea, see, that's why the Muzzies do it. They can't risk having boners 24/7, so in to the bags go the wimmenz.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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On the other side of the isle too.
No handsies or footsies.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (/X/7F)

212 Paul certainly didn't follow the 'judge not lest ye be judged.'

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (VofaG)

213 196 189 Yeah, I get a lot of sexual provocation in church from women not covering their hair.

Grow up

Read my comment at 140.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:13 PM (6nn2F)

214 1900 Derby ladies. And their hats are nice too.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2025 11:13 PM (41CYW)

215 >>>then you need to learn about a woman's place in Judaism.

[It's spelled, "Synagogue."]
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo a
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Always the barb.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:13 PM (/X/7F)

216 Yoko is the reason I never click the mystery click.

Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 11:14 PM (RIvkX)

217 195 Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 11:02 PM (aBgBM)

Is Princess Leia that big of a role model? She was the only female in Star Wars right?

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 11:08 PM (VofaG)


I dunno. Princess with a gun who leads a galactic rebellion and bosses men around and backtalks them? Not exactly Yeoman Rand.

Posted by: Gref at May 04, 2025 11:14 PM (aBgBM)

218 Of course, I tell someone I’m arguing theology with to grow up, when we have folks here discussing Star Wars.

=


As kids used to say in HS, it's a free country.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 11:14 PM (g47mK)

219 191 FoxTrot's contribution to Star Wars Day (link goes to foxtrot.com):

https://tinyurl.com/55msnpjd
Posted by: Biden's Lonely Neuron at May 04, 2025 11:07 PM (DR8E2)

I do miss reading the Sunday comics with Little. Foxtrot and Sherman's Lagoon were a couple of favorites...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (bA75n)

220 118 Little known fact: Adam had a son named after himself, who became the progenitor of the Scots.

Name: Adam MacAdam.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (W5ArC)
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also gravel used to pave roads.

Posted by: Ciampino - more meanings at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (sPQoU)

221 Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (r2ymA)

Look, I am merely saying, you can see how someone might be persuaded to see their side. 😂

Surely there's a happy median to be struck! 😁

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (Vvh2V)

222 As kids used to say in HS, it's a free country.
Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 11:14 PM (g47mK)

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Also, "you're not the boss of me."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (hY4dx)

223 Always the barb.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:13 PM (/X/7F)

Always the veiled nastiness.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (mWSu4)

224 Also, "you're not the boss of me."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (hY4dx)

And.."talk to the hand".

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (g47mK)

225
a woman was married, and therefore having sex, and no longer pure
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

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Having sex with your husband makes you impure? Being married makes you no longer available (theoretically), but impure? Did Adam and Eve have sex before the apple incident? If they did, this impurity case falls apart.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (U7Gpi)

226 I got a good swack of mowing done today, and the areas not done simply don't have enough growth yet to make it necessary.

So I put a battery in the Avanti, and aired up the tires, and fed it a quart of ATF to replace what leaked out over the winter, and took it to town, and bought gas and groceries. A good day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (S8BjZ)

227 MiladyJo tells me that when she and her sisters went to Mass without a veil, they complied by… pinning a doily on their head. They would fold them into as small a triangle as they could.

Vital theological rules, practically on a par with the Commandments.

Like in High School when a girlfriend talked me (raised Episcopal) into going to her Catholic church. Assured me that I could take communion with them. I can still see the glaring disapproval of the priest that I had my hands out to receive the host rather than my tongue. I didn't exactly feel welcomed; more like I was some kind of demonic infiltrator.

Posted by: mindful webworker - lesson learned for life at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (7URu6)

228 Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (/X/7F

Definitely no footsies with them unshod feet! The horror!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (Vvh2V)

229 Surely there's a happy median to be struck! 😁

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (Vvh2V)

Behead only half of the western whores?

Posted by: Islam at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (mWSu4)

230 182 Gref: I started out in Trek fandom, then eventually migrated over to Wars. Writing in the Trek universe was a bit of a slog. Trek zines had covered just about every possibility. I had to find a single instant that had been over looked by all the other writers. Wars was wide open, and the writers were terrified of stepping outside of Canon. There were an infinite number of possibilities the strict constructionists had over looked. One writer had an absolutely fantastic Darth Vader series, but gave it up when RotJ came out because her series veered away from fricking Canon!

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (xoECP)

231 I don't get "Star Wars Day". It's a movie. OK. Next?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:10 PM (S8BjZ)

Of course, I tell someone I’m arguing theology with to grow up, when we have folks here discussing Star Wars.

It’s the Star Wars folks who need to grow up first.
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (77rzZ)


Don't you guys have lawns to go lord over?

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (RFPHU)

232 As kids used to say in HS, it's a free country.
Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 11:14 PM (g47mK)


We used to say it because it used to be true.

Posted by: Biden's Lonely Neuron at May 04, 2025 11:17 PM (DR8E2)

233 As kids used to say in HS, it's a free country.
Posted by: runner

Well, back when you were in HS, it probably was.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 11:18 PM (L/fGl)

234 Muslims are closer to biblical "gender roles" than the decadent post-Christian West.

Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 11:18 PM (r2ymA)

235 Good evening, Horde. Thanks Doof and Piper. Akbar got me - was singing Fine Young Cannibals while doing yard work today. Thought, "Oh cool," and clicked the link. Damn you Doof.
Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2025 11:12 PM (41CYW)


*grins and laughs*

Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 11:18 PM (RFPHU)

236 Where does that come from, though? I’m not opposed to it. In fact, I support the recent trend of young Catholic women veiling.

But why does it matter? I want to make sure I’m adopting tradition from savory sources.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 10:28 PM (l3YAf)

To me, it comes uncomfortably close to muzzies putting their women in hijabs or toebags.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I think that women wear a head veil (just covering their hair) is a sign of respect and reverence, humility toward God, and as an imitation of Mary. Veiling of women (in church) is a longstanding (millenia) tradition in the Catholic Church. And frankly, their is hardly anything cuter than seeing little girls veiled in Church, usually at Latin Mass services.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:19 PM (tjZg/)

237 Don't you guys have lawns to go lord over?
Posted by: Doof at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (RFPHU)

Eh, it was a fun movie, or series of movies. But not a life-changing experience.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:19 PM (S8BjZ)

238 >> Like in High School when a girlfriend talked me (raised Episcopal) into going to her Catholic church. Assured me that I could take communion with them. I can still see the glaring disapproval of the priest that I had my hands out to receive the host rather than my tongue.

Catholics take it on the hand now (perhaps unfortunately so..) But Protestants are still forbidden the Eucharist at Catholic churches. That’s a rule I obeyed for nearly a decade.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:19 PM (l3YAf)

239 Paul condemned himself as the worst of sinners, having persecuted the early church, even to the point of murder. He knew he was worthy of Hell save for the redeeming blood and death of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. May the Paraclete touch your heart! I don’t want anyone to go to Hell, but some are bound and determined to go. May God bless you so that you may believe and be saved! Amen.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (6nn2F)

240 198 Disagree. Humans, and human free will, wrote the Bible. God, of course, guided it, but he let the various human authors express their opinions, in accordance with his Divine Will.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (77rzZ)

241 Well, back when you were in HS, it probably was.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 11:18 PM (L/fGl)

My HS had metal detectors.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (g47mK)

242

President Trump on Sunday said that he's ordering the reopening of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary - the historic prison located in the middle of the San Francisco Bay that closed over six decades ago.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (63Dwl)

243 The observant women I grew up with kept their head shaved or shorn and wore wigs.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (RIvkX)

244 To me, it comes uncomfortably close to muzzies putting their women in hijabs or toebags.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 10:33 PM (B0Ivl)


Men uncover in church and indoors and women don't. It is one of those things - I mean unless it is in synagogue. Used to be if a man wore his hat into the Elks lodge bar, he bought a round of drinks for the house. The rules have changed since then.

In the Us in the 1800's there were some 'rules" about the ages girls wore braids, and when they started wearing their hair up, and they always wore hats or bonnets.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (D7oie)

245 Weeping Willow by Scott Joplin is surprisingly difficult piano piece, at least for my intermediate skills. Been at it two weeks and finally have it memorized and the fingering worked out. Left hand is a nightmare though and will probably take a few weeks before I can play fluidly. Too late to turn back now but will be worth it.

Posted by: Ripley at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (PTDkx)

246 Star Wars was quite a thing, 40 years ago.
And Blade Runner
And Close Encounters of the Third Kind
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They should try something new.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:21 PM (/X/7F)

247 Muslims are closer to biblical "gender roles" than the decadent post-Christian West.
Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 11:18 PM (r2ym

Ninja please. Show me any Muslim queens.

Posted by: polynikes at May 04, 2025 11:21 PM (VofaG)

248 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2025 11:16 PM (U7Gpi)

Just theorizing here. It would've been well over 5000 years ago, no telling what the thought process was.

Sending menstruating women off to live in tents away from everyone else is understandable under their circumstances, but who knows what their thought process was when making womwn cover up?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:21 PM (Vvh2V)

249 President Trump on Sunday said that he's ordering the reopening of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary - the historic prison located in the middle of the San Francisco Bay that closed over six decades ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (63Dwl)

That could get expensive, and may piss off the Indians who claim it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:22 PM (S8BjZ)

250 I ended up seeing Star Wars five times in 1977. Twice in Phoenix, twice in Santa Fe, NM where I was working a summer job, and once in mid-October in Houston

Anything's got to be better than watching the Rockets play

Posted by: gKWVE at May 04, 2025 11:23 PM (gKWVE)

251 Like in High School when a girlfriend talked me (raised Episcopal) into going to her Catholic church. Assured me that I could take communion with them. I can still see the glaring disapproval of the priest that I had my hands out to receive the host rather than my tongue.

Catholics take it on the hand now (perhaps unfortunately so..) But Protestants are still forbidden the Eucharist at Catholic churches. That’s a rule I obeyed for nearly a decade.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director


Yeah, there is a big debate within the Catholic Church about taking the Host in your hand or having it placed in your mouth. The old way (Latin Mass) was to have it placed in your mouth by the priest. Novus Ordo (the Vatican II Mass) allows you to take it in your hand.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:23 PM (tjZg/)

252 That could get expensive, and may piss off the Indians who claim it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:22 PM (S8BjZ)

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Some federal official could give a Land Acknowledgment just before they pull the switch.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2025 11:24 PM (hY4dx)

253 Protestants don’t want the Catholic eucharist. The idea that earthly elements could take on divine attributes is idolatry.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:24 PM (77rzZ)

254 Obviously Women in the West have gotten totally out of control and Moslems are largely more correct in their notions of the place of women in society.
Posted by: dudley at May 04, 2025 11:09 PM (r2ymA)

So you're saying women are like bears?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 11:25 PM (yko4N)

255 Franpsycho, in case you missed it the first time (weeks ago), I need to inform you that Yoko's uncle was on the deck of the USS Missouri for the surrender ceremony in 1945. He was the younger guy carrying the briefcase, foreign ministry guy.

Pretty bizarre trivia.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:25 PM (1m82a)

256 So you're saying women are like bears?

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Boy, that escalated quickly.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 04, 2025 11:26 PM (hY4dx)

257 240 198 Disagree. Humans, and human free will, wrote the Bible. God, of course, guided it, but he let the various human authors express their opinions, in accordance with his Divine Will.
Posted by: Bulg
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Something about Constantine saying, times up, deliberation's over. Put it together. It gives one the feeling that there is a lack of resolution or something.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:26 PM (/X/7F)

258 Used to be if a man wore his hat into the Elks lodge bar, he bought a round of drinks for the house. The rules have changed since then.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 11:20 PM (D7oie)

Same was true of the Canadian Legion. The cap rule was done away with not long ago at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:26 PM (S8BjZ)

259 Pretty bizarre trivia.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:25 PM (1m82a)
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In a way it makes perfect sense.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 11:27 PM (RIvkX)

260 So you're saying women are like bears?

If you get between them and their offspring, worse.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at May 04, 2025 11:27 PM (lUFok)

261 Re-open Alcatraz?

Never a dull moment with the Bad Orange Man.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:27 PM (1m82a)

262
The old way (Latin Mass) was to have it placed in your mouth by the priest. Novus Ordo (the Vatican II Mass) allows you to take it in your hand.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:23 PM (tjZg/)

___________

Even when circumstances dictate that I go to a Novus Ordo Mass, I take Communion on the tongue. But I'm a slave to Crumb Theology.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 11:27 PM (QnmlO)

263 Weeping Willow by Scott Joplin is surprisingly difficult piano piece, at least for my intermediate skills. Been at it two weeks and finally have it memorized and the fingering worked out. Left hand is a nightmare though and will probably take a few weeks before I can play fluidly. Too late to turn back now but will be worth it.
Posted by: Ripley
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Tickling the ivories. We got rid of the piano when oldest finished up college. I do miss the piano music in the house. Good luck with Weeping Willow adventure.

Posted by: scampydog at May 04, 2025 11:28 PM (41CYW)

264 So I put a battery in the Avanti, and aired up the tires, and fed it a quart of ATF to replace what leaked out over the winter, and took it to town, and bought gas and groceries. A good day.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

The Avanti was a really pretty car style. Ahead of it's time when it first appeared. I wish they would have put a more powerful engine in it. How well does yours run? Obviously you have spent a lot of time on it.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:28 PM (tjZg/)

265 The idea that earthly elements could take on divine attributes is idolatry.

==

what about moon rocks ??

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2025 11:28 PM (g47mK)

266 >> And frankly, their is hardly anything cuter than seeing little girls veiled in Church, usually at Latin Mass services.

This is truth. Nietzsche thought ethics was mostly aesthetics. I sometimes think he’s right. High church has the most swagger.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:29 PM (l3YAf)

267 To me, it comes uncomfortably close to muzzies putting their women in hijabs or toebags.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

When I visited the Blue Mosque in Constantinople, my immediate thought was "I want the Love my Carpet" contract for this place

Posted by: Ixnay on the Iklosmay at May 04, 2025 11:30 PM (LP6Fv)

268
That could get expensive, and may piss off the Indians who claim it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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They piss and moan about everything. The sober one's know how to work the system quite well and don't GAS about their unfortunate brothers.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:30 PM (/X/7F)

269 Alcatraz will need a lot of refurbishing, billions of dollars and years' worth.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 04, 2025 11:31 PM (RIvkX)

270 Dueling theological absolutists are my favorite Moron comment exchanges.

Heading out before I get drawn in to set you all straight.
😁

https://youtu.be/GABEHMlhfVU

G'nite, y'all. Be of good cheer.

Posted by: mindful webworker - just a suggestion from the Son of God at May 04, 2025 11:31 PM (7URu6)

271 Obviously Women in the West have gotten totally out of control and Moslems are largely more correct in their notions of the place of women in society.
Posted by: dudley

Some years ago, I read a biography of Salah -eh-din (known as Saladin). He was held as a "hostage" in his youth by the Crusaders in a town they held. This was a formality, and he was not kept in a prison.
He noted that Christian women were not made to walk behind their husbands, and would stay and talk in public (ZOUNDS!!) even if their husbands left their company.
This was over a 1000 years ago, too.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:31 PM (tjZg/)

272 I only recently heard that just prior to the ceremony, MacArthur puked in the head of the flag cabin. Nerves, emotion, whatever. He was pretty composed reading his little speech, but if you look closely his hand holding the paper is shaking pretty good. Interesting.

Franpsycho, sorta similar, does it make sense that Chevy Chase's father in law was Halsey's chief of staff, and later a carrier commander who was eventually sidelined due to his abrasive personality?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:31 PM (1m82a)

273 Paul probably held the coats of the men who stoned the first martyr, Stephen. It’s shocking to realize based on their relative ages that Paul (then Saul) probably heard Jesus preach in Jerusalem and probably looked Him in the face. As a zealous Pharisee he probably hated Jesus and would have liked to shut Him up. It was only Jesus’ direct intervention in Paul’s life (on the road to Damascus) that brought about his conversion to one of the greatest advocates for Jesus as opposed to against him. You should try to understand what you discuss, but belief requires a softened heart. May the Holy Ghost come to you. Amen.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:32 PM (6nn2F)

274
Same here. Up till then, sci-fi movies with spacecraft blasting away at each other, were schlok films mostly made in Italy or Japan, with cheap sets and cheesy models of spacecraft. And lousy special effects.


Star Wars did have the best FX of its time.

It also had prime Harrison Ford, a still functional Carrie Fisher, and the best voice in film - James Earl Jones.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:33 PM (t0Rmr)

275 Franpsycho, sorta similar, does it make sense that Chevy Chase's father in law was Halsey's chief of staff, and later a carrier commander who was eventually sidelined due to his abrasive personality?
Posted by: rhomboid

So soon?

Posted by: Adm. John McCain at May 04, 2025 11:33 PM (LP6Fv)

276 Would think The Rock would require total reconstruction. And hard to see how operating costs and total cost would make any sense, compared to just building another fed pen or expanding an existing one in BF Egypt somewhere in the vast expanse of these United States. But that's just uninformed guesswork.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:34 PM (1m82a)

277 But I do note that Star Wars attracts way more women as fans.

Star Wars is more space fantasy, Star Trek is nominally harder science fiction...but very nominally.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:34 PM (t0Rmr)

278 This was over a 1000 years ago, too.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:31 PM (tjZg/)

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*cough*

800 years.

Posted by: The AoSHQ House Pedant at May 04, 2025 11:34 PM (hY4dx)

279 Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:32 PM (6nn2F)

Amen, indeed.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (Vvh2V)

280 >> Protestants don’t want the Catholic eucharist.

I dunno, man, sometimes they do.


>> The idea that earthly elements could take on divine attributes is idolatry.

Tell that to Jesus, who was made of earthly elements.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (l3YAf)

281 Have they figured out how to get Miklos back yet?!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (Vvh2V)

282 Always the veiled nastiness.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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No. It was a direct question relating to the subject of the moment.
Nothing more.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (/X/7F)

283
Re-open Alcatraz?

Never a dull moment with the Bad Orange Man.

Posted by: rhomboid

===============

Considering it was closed because of the expense, I'm not sure how reopening it is going to help, but in any case I'm going to get tickets asap and visit it before the first raft of no-goodniks gets processed in.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (U7Gpi)

284 As I recall McCain was pretty competent, and was more/less a scapegoat for Halsey's *second* typhoon fiasco. In any case he got a street named for him down at the old Naval Training Center (now Liberty Station). Still there.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:36 PM (1m82a)

285 261 Re-open Alcatraz?

Never a dull moment with the Bad Orange Man.

Posted by: rhomboid



Got to put those insurrectionists in Soviet California somewhere! LoL!

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 04, 2025 11:36 PM (sAmhv)

286
Tell that to Jesus, who was made of earthly elements.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (l3YAf)

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Hah! Joke's on you.

Posted by: A Docetist at May 04, 2025 11:36 PM (hY4dx)

287 This was over a 1000 years ago, too.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:31 PM (tjZg/)

---------

*cough*

800 years.
Posted by: The AoSHQ House Pedant


RONG

Posted by: Bishop Usher, doin' the Math at May 04, 2025 11:37 PM (LP6Fv)

288 I suppose that I should go to bed.

I mean no offense to my Roman-Catholic Hordemates. I agree with you politically.

But I enjoy theological arguments, as I enjoy those over the Civil War. But I apologize if I get a little excessive in my rhetoric.

Good night and blessings to you all.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:37 PM (77rzZ)

289 Protestants don’t want the Catholic eucharist. The idea that earthly elements could take on divine attributes is idolatry.
Posted by: Bulg


Well, to put it kindly, that's just ignorance and stupidity, and lack of understanding what transubstantiation means.

There are videos on YouTube by Ignatian monks that explain the meaning of transubstantiation. The substance does not change its chemical or physical nature, but as the wafer becomes a Holy Sacrament, it takes on the nature of the Body of Christ. This is why the Eucharist is such a big deal in the Catholic Church. I also think that the Eastern Orthodox Church has the same belief. So that's about 1.5 Billion people, give or take.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:37 PM (tjZg/)

290 President Trump on Sunday said that he's ordering the reopening of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary - the historic prison located in the middle of the San Francisco Bay that closed over six decades ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. President Trump on Sunday said that he's ordering the reopening of Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary - the historic prison located in the middle of the San Francisco Bay that closed over six decades ago.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
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Easy - Just use helicopter transport. Get close to ground and out you go... Food deliveries same way.
Red cross observers? Same.

Those sentenced to life can be dropped from 50+ ft. They'll be there the rest of their life.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2025 11:37 PM (/lPRQ)

291 In keeping with the crappification of cars, a repost from earlier today:
Even billboards aren't safe.

https://tinyurl.com/yndex4u

Posted by: Ciampino - couldn't find a goat? at May 04, 2025 11:38 PM (sPQoU)

292
Franpsycho, sorta similar, does it make sense that Chevy Chase's father in law was Halsey's chief of staff, and later a carrier commander who was eventually sidelined due to his abrasive personality?
Posted by: rhomboid

__________

Miles Browning was Chase's maternal grandfather.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 04, 2025 11:38 PM (QnmlO)

293
I think I get Dudley's joke.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 04, 2025 11:38 PM (U7Gpi)

294 Tell that to Jesus, who was made of earthly elements.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:35 PM (l3YAf)

--------

Hah! Joke's on you.
Posted by: A Docetist

Gonna be a fight

Posted by: drunk Bogomil at the bar at May 04, 2025 11:38 PM (LP6Fv)

295 Fun fact. Alcatraz' first prisoner was sentenced to prison for homosexual sodomy.

Frank Lucas Bolt
Little has been documented about Alcatraz’s LGBTQ+ prisoners, but gay men did play a role in the infamous prison. In fact, it was a queer man, Frank Lucas Bolt, who served as the prison’s first official inmate. Bolt was serving in the U.S. Army in Panama when he was convicted of sodomy in 1932 and sent to serve time at a Pacific area military prison. Then, in June 1934, Lucas was shipped to the newly established Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary, two months before the prison’s official opening on August 11th.

FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, perhaps Alcatraz’s staunchest proponent, signed Bolt’s official admission papers as Alcatraz Inmate #1. Hoover wanted Alcatraz seen not only as a prison for America’s most dangerous mobsters and criminals, but also as a symbol of America’s intolerance and prosecution of homosexuality and what he deemed “undesirable lifestyles.”⁹

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 11:38 PM (L/fGl)

296 He noted that Christian women were not made to walk behind their husbands, and would stay and talk in public (ZOUNDS!!) even if their husbands left their company.
This was over a 1000 years ago, too.


The guy that developed modern Islamism, Sayid Qutb, nominally did so in reaction to his time in the American midwest in the 1950s. Women in skirts that showed their ankles dancing with men that's weren't their husbands...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:38 PM (t0Rmr)

297 The Avanti was a really pretty car style. Ahead of it's time when it first appeared. I wish they would have put a more powerful engine in it. How well does yours run? Obviously you have spent a lot of time on it.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:28 PM (tjZg/)

This one is a bit of a mutt. I know a little of its history. It has a 283 McKinnon (GM) engine that, according to its serial number, was first installed in a 1966 Studebaker sedan. ('65 and '66, Studebakers used GM engines, because engine foundry in South Bend was closed) It is coupled to a GM TH350 transmission, which was not available in Studebakers. Works well enough, though, other than the torque converter drainback issue. Also has the wrong rear axle in it. Plan is to replace the rear axle with the right one (Dana 44), and also replace the TH350 with a 700R4, to get the lockup converter, and overdrive gear.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:39 PM (S8BjZ)

298 So that's about 1.5 Billion people, give or take.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:37 PM (tjZg/)

All wrong!

Posted by: Eat the cracker, drink the HFCS-enhanced thimble of grape juice at May 04, 2025 11:40 PM (l3YAf)

299 Miles Browning was as funny as Chevy Chase.

Discuss

Posted by: John Moses Browning at May 04, 2025 11:40 PM (LP6Fv)

300 Maternal granddad? Thanks Hadrian. Messed that up.

Another fifty push-ups in the morning.

But no wet-and-sandy (not at the beach).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 04, 2025 11:41 PM (1m82a)

301 Even when circumstances dictate that I go to a Novus Ordo Mass, I take Communion on the tongue. But I'm a slave to Crumb Theology.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

My wife and I go to our closest Church, which has Novus Ordo. We have started going (sometimes) to a Church downtown that is an Oratorio (to get around Francis' edict) and does the Latin Mass.
At times, it is quite beautiful.
The midnight service on Christmas Eve, and the Tenebrae we went to on Good Friday....that was really an amazingly beautiful service.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:41 PM (tjZg/)

302 "Delco Pooper" what a shitty name.

Posted by: TC at May 04, 2025 11:41 PM (szqEY)

303 I wanted to thank whoever it was that linked to the interview with Joe Rigney, at Thinking in Public.

The discussion of Rigneys book and The Sin of Empathy was very interesting. It's a bit tedious, but contains numerous important observations regarding the psychology of the Left in its various incarnations. Sample:
"And then we saw this over the last 10 to 15 years and all things woke, that the common thread that I came to recognize in all of these different controversies, whether it was race or abuse, whether it was manhood, womanhood and sexuality, the common thread underneath was the victim is always right—the alleged victim’s always right, the proposed victim’s always right—and you can’t question challenge or anything because to do so would to be heartless, not empathetic. So empathy became the steering wheel by which opportunistic people took advantage of Christian soft heartedness."
https://albertmohler.com/2025/02/19/joe-rigney/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2025 11:41 PM (XeU6L)

304 Can we get over the idea that Paul’s personal preferences in worship are binding on all Christians?
Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:00 PM (77rzZ)


Martin Luther, John Wesley, and George Fox all agree with you to one degree or another

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 11:42 PM (D7oie)

305 "Delco Pooper" what a shitty name.
Posted by: TC

Buncha crap

Posted by: former 80s car owner at May 04, 2025 11:43 PM (LP6Fv)

306 “So empathy became the steering wheel by which opportunistic people took advantage of Christian soft heartedness."

Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche at May 04, 2025 11:43 PM (l3YAf)

307 “So empathy became the steering wheel by which opportunistic people took advantage of Christian soft heartedness."
Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche at May 04, 2025 11:43 PM (l3YAf)

Whoops, meant to say “That’s what I said!”

Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche at May 04, 2025 11:44 PM (l3YAf)

308 AOP - I forget, what year model the Avanti? Which engine?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2025 11:44 PM (XeU6L)

309 "Delco Pooper" what a shitty name.
Posted by: TC at May 04, 2025 11:41 PM (szqEY)

Inorite?

Posted by: Lucas Leaker at May 04, 2025 11:45 PM (S8BjZ)

310 Orange Man Bad is racist!

Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Today, Trump questioned Democrats’ decision to make Jasmine Crockett the “future of the party” — again calling her “a low-IQ person."
Crockett recently said she’d welcome an IQ test to prove she's smarter than Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 11:45 PM (L/fGl)

311 So empathy became the steering wheel by which opportunistic people took advantage of Christian soft heartedness."
https://albertmohler.com/2025/02/19/joe-rigney/
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc

Comes to it, then we kill dey asses

Posted by: Onward Christian Soldiers at May 04, 2025 11:45 PM (LP6Fv)

312 On the whole, Asian women don't cover their hair or wear hats. Hats traditionally are avoided because no woman wants to be the sort of woman who has to wear sun protection to keep their skin pale from working outdoors like a farmer.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 11:46 PM (D7oie)

313 “So empathy became the steering wheel by which opportunistic people took advantage of Christian soft heartedness."

Christians from a hundred years ago wouldn't recognize the current popular religion of, call it "Buddy Christ", as the same as their own.

Not that empathy isn't a part of Christianity obviously, but imagine if a surgeon felt the same empathy for a cancerous tumor as his patient...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:46 PM (t0Rmr)

314 Would think The Rock would require total reconstruction. And hard to see how operating costs and total cost would make any sense, compared to just building another fed pen or expanding an existing one in BF Egypt somewhere in the vast expanse of these United States. But that's just uninformed guesswork.
Posted by: rhomboid

Northern Alaska.
At least 150 miles from any other settlement.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2025 11:46 PM (/lPRQ)

315 Yoko Ono played with the Emperor Hirohito’s children. That is, she was a childhood friend of the next Emperor, Akihito, who in 2019 stepped down in favor of his son Naruhito, the current Emperor.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:47 PM (6nn2F)

316 On the whole, Asian women don't cover their hair or wear hats. Hats traditionally are avoided because no woman wants to be the sort of woman who has to wear sun protection to keep their skin pale from working outdoors like a farmer.
Posted by: Kindltot

Small Asian women

Bare feet

My back

Posted by: As Intended at May 04, 2025 11:48 PM (LP6Fv)

317 Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Today, Trump questioned Democrats’ decision to make Jasmine Crockett the “future of the party” — again calling her “a low-IQ person."
Crockett recently said she’d welcome an IQ test to prove she's smarter than Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
.....................................
(Sips beer)
This is a stupid timeline.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 04, 2025 11:48 PM (sAmhv)

318 AOP - I forget, what year model the Avanti? Which engine?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2025 11:44 PM (XeU6L)

It is a '63. Black on black. Body and chrome look good, but not show quality. I don't think it was ever a supercharged car, nor did it have A/C. Just a nice driver, that is far from being "correct".

Posted by: Lucas Leaker at May 04, 2025 11:48 PM (S8BjZ)

319 Does no one want to listen to the Dave Brubeck Trio. After all it’s 5/4!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:48 PM (6nn2F)

320 Not that empathy isn't a part of Christianity obviously, but imagine if a surgeon felt the same empathy for a cancerous tumor as his patient...
Posted by: 18-1
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That interview is worth the read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2025 11:49 PM (XeU6L)

321 118 Little known fact: Adam had a son named after himself, who became the progenitor of the Scots.
Name: Adam MacAdam.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 04, 2025 10:38 PM (W5ArC)
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also gravel used to pave roads.
Posted by: Ciampino - more meanings at May 04, 2025 11:15 PM (sPQoU)


He tried to found a country called "Macadamia". The whole idea was nuts.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 11:49 PM (D7oie)

322 Off, sock of Darkness.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2025 11:50 PM (S8BjZ)

323 288 Plus, I learn much from my debates with others, whether over theology or the Civil War.

I once saw a quotation, I don’t remember from whom, that went something like, “I never once learned anything from a man who agreed with me.”

That’s why I love the debates and discussions that we have here on this site.

Goodnight Again, All. God Bless You, All.
So, thank you, All. Good Night.

Posted by: Bulg at May 04, 2025 11:50 PM (77rzZ)

324 Yoko Ono played with the Emperor Hirohito’s children. That is, she was a childhood friend of the next Emperor, Akihito, who in 2019 stepped down in favor of his son Naruhito, the current Emperor.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:47 PM (6nn2F)

Wow, I guess the Japanese have more than gotten us back for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

And then some!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:50 PM (l3YAf)

325 Does no one want to listen to the Dave Brubeck Trio. After all it’s 5/4!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Fresh out of dry Vermouth for the Martinis

Posted by: Insufficient Logistics at May 04, 2025 11:50 PM (LP6Fv)

326 I don't understand the Mary connection with the veil. All the other women around her would've been veiled, too. That being my point. It was cultural. There may have been religious significance to it, but the covering of women was in the Middle Eastern culture even before Judaism. It has been handed down from that.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:50 PM (Vvh2V)

327 I am somewhat amused that when I was young it was cool to be tan, and judging by the youth now, it is cool to be pale.

Of course when you stay indoors on a computer it is easier to stay pale...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:51 PM (t0Rmr)

328 Please. Bring. Back. Miklos.

Please.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 04, 2025 11:51 PM (QGaXH)

329 In the 1970s we wore chapel caps.

I wear a veil to Mass.

It’s about being respectful.

Guess what, I cut off my long hair and I like it better now.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2025 11:52 PM (3O3BM)

330 Little know fact: The founder of Delco was Frank Delco.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 04, 2025 11:52 PM (XeU6L)

331 I was trying to find how much the taxes Mary and Joseph had to pay...the best I could find was an estimate of half a shekel, or about half an ounce of silver.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:52 PM (t0Rmr)

332 It is a '63. Black on black. Body and chrome look good, but not show quality. I don't think it was ever a supercharged car, nor did it have A/C. Just a nice driver, that is far from being "correct".
Posted by: Lucas Leaker, aka Alberta Oil Peon

There was one I saw frequently as a kid, it was kind of a silver color. Really pretty car. This was when they were new, sometime in the mid - 60's.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:53 PM (tjZg/)

333 Off, sock of Darkness.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

My Uncle John had a level of color blindness.

Kept him out of the Air Corps in WWII

Not severe, by my Aunt had to sort blue from black socks for him

Posted by: vague recollections at May 04, 2025 11:53 PM (LP6Fv)

334
Miklos is here. Different nics.

Posted by: fourseasons at May 04, 2025 11:53 PM (3ek7K)

335 I once saw a quotation, I don’t remember from whom, that went something like, “I never once learned anything from a man who agreed with me.”

Open discussion has the advantage of greater understanding, both of alternate viewpoints, and your own.

It does have a notable weakness though, and you see it reflected in the left/right political split.

So what does suppressing discussion do for you then? Well it allows you to have a single coherent narrative and organization as we see with the left.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:55 PM (t0Rmr)

336 I was trying to find how much the taxes Mary and Joseph had to pay...the best I could find was an estimate of half a shekel, or about half an ounce of silver.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:52 PM (t0Rmr)

Damned tax-and-spend Herods!

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 04, 2025 11:55 PM (l3YAf)

337 Please.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Your pleas have been heard, my son.

Blessings upon you

Posted by: Bishop Ralph of Shrewsbury at May 04, 2025 11:56 PM (LP6Fv)

338 Going out with a bang.

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (KKTV) - An apartment complex was evacuated late Sunday morning, according to the Colorado Springs Police Department (CSPD).
. . . .
Police said a man was found dead inside one of the rooms with a grenade in his hand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 04, 2025 11:56 PM (L/fGl)

339 Miklos is here. Different nics.

Posted by: fourseasons
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So, the rescue troops rallying at South of the Border can disperse?

Posted by: Pedro at May 04, 2025 11:56 PM (XeU6L)

340 Posted by: Kindltot at May 04, 2025 11:46 PM (D7oie)

They wear 175 sunscreen and carry parasols if need be, to avoid looking like they are the type of person who labors all day in the sun.

Pale skin is the ideal, and the South Koreans have figured out skincare that prevents melanin productionnow. The " Glass Skin" look is all the rage now. Korean skin care is cutting edge, and a lot fairly reasonably priced.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 04, 2025 11:57 PM (Vvh2V)

341 I don't understand the Mary connection with the veil. All the other women around her would've been veiled, too. That being my point. It was cultural. There may have been religious significance to it, but the covering of women was in the Middle Eastern culture even before Judaism. It has been handed down from that.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Mary was indeed born Jewish, as was Jesus (Yeshua). And so there were indeed a lot of Jewish customs taken up by the early Christian Church. But Mary, as the Virgin Mother of Jesus, is greatly revered within the Catholic Church, and there was always an urge to imitate her.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:57 PM (tjZg/)

342
Pedro, Return to your hacienda.

Posted by: fourseasons at May 04, 2025 11:57 PM (3ek7K)

343 Japanese women like to be as pale as possible (exception - the gyaru - which is sort of passé, except in anime). But they want to look like they don’t need any help in achieving that. So no big floppy hats or the like, but lots of sunscreen. Many exceptions: the titular lead in the anime “I fell in love with an Okinawa girl” or Okitsura, is quite the nut brown maid, and entirely unconcerned about it. Or perhaps unaware of the issue: she is a _very_ Okinawan girl.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 04, 2025 11:58 PM (6nn2F)

344 Welp, Jr. Dude totaled the crosstrek(no injuries, subie did its job) Emergency car buying has commenced. Did I mention I loath car buying?

Posted by: a dude in MI at May 04, 2025 11:58 PM (+I6Y/)

345 So, the rescue troops rallying at South of the Border can disperse?
Posted by: Pedro

Only when I Sez

Posted by: Pedro's boss (el Jefe) at May 04, 2025 11:58 PM (LP6Fv)

346 COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (KKTV) - An apartment complex was evacuated late Sunday morning, according to the Colorado Springs Police Department (CSPD).
. . . .
Police said a man was found dead inside one of the rooms with a grenade in his hand.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes!
====

The original dead man switch.



Was the pin pulled?
If not. No biggie.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 04, 2025 11:59 PM (/lPRQ)

347 Damned tax-and-spend Herods!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

Well, it was an order from Caesar Augustus that there should be an enumeration of all the people in the Empire, and that they should all be taxed.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:59 PM (tjZg/)

348 Trump: "I shall rebuild Alcatraz!"

CA Politicos: "Yay! More graft and corruption for us!"

Trump: "And I will divert all the High Speed Rail money to fund it!"

CA Politicos: "Wait. What?"

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at May 04, 2025 11:59 PM (yko4N)

349 Well it allows you to have a single coherent narrative and organization as we see with the left.
Posted by: 18-1
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I might say 'consistent' vs. 'coherent', but I get your point.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2025 12:00 AM (XeU6L)

350 Dude in MI, glad the kid's OK.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2025 12:00 AM (1m82a)

351 Pedro, Return to your hacienda.
Posted by: fourseasons

FUN FACT

South of the Border off I-95 (Dillon SC) was started by a guy named Schaeffer

Posted by: more is know than is told at May 05, 2025 12:01 AM (LP6Fv)

352 Delco began as the Dayton Engineering Laboratory Company, under Charles Kettering.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2025 12:01 AM (S8BjZ)

353 And bulg if you read this in the morning

If you want to have a discussion or argument, please be respectful.

Denigrating the Eucharist is not respectful. And it makes me not want to have anything to do with you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2025 12:01 AM (mT+6a)

354 subjective arguments are useless .

Posted by: polynikes at May 05, 2025 12:01 AM (VofaG)

355 Was the pin pulled?
If not. No biggie.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Probably an airman.
(ducks)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2025 12:02 AM (XeU6L)

356 Delco began as the Dayton Engineering Laboratory Company, under Charles Kettering.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Don't get me started on this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2025 12:03 AM (XeU6L)

357 I'm not a hat-person... Really glad that hats are not common for women anymore-- it would be just another expense that I cannot afford!

But there was a time!

Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora... OH! What a time!

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:03 AM (rdVOm)

358 Well, it was an order from Caesar Augustus that there should be an enumeration of all the people in the Empire, and that they should all be taxed.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:59 PM (tjZg/)

Well, sure.. but it’s not like the money collected by Herod was being put to much good, either!

And Rome did build some good infrastructure. Frankly, I’m not sure Judea was being taken advantage of then..

And then Jesus is just like “Pay your taxes to Rome, give your soul to God.”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:04 AM (l3YAf)

359 I am somewhat amused that when I was young it was cool to be tan, and judging by the youth now, it is cool to be pale.

Of course when you stay indoors on a computer it is easier to stay pale...

Posted by: 18-1 at May 04, 2025 11:51 PM (t0Rmr)
-

https://tinyurl.com/bdfkc2je

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 05, 2025 12:05 AM (yS/3v)

360 subjective arguments are useless .
Posted by: polynikes

Conjunctive arguments get complicated

Don't even get me started on subjunctives

Posted by: Commentarius Caroliniensis at May 05, 2025 12:05 AM (LP6Fv)

361 Let he who has not fallen asleep with a grenade in his hand cast the first stielhandgranate.

Posted by: Potato Masher at May 05, 2025 12:06 AM (G5+As)

362 353 Nurse, I am still lurking. I would be happy to have a discussion with you anytime.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:06 AM (77rzZ)

363 ‘Entitled’ Gen Z Starbucks employees blast uniform changes: ‘Snowflake behavior’

http://trib.al/jjIofSf

Posted by: Ciampino - non-uniform at May 05, 2025 12:08 AM (sPQoU)

364 351:South of the Border off I-95 (Dillon SC) was started by a guy named Schaeffer
Posted by: more is know than is told
...........................
I haven't been down that way on I95 in a long time. Does 'South of the Border' still exist?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 05, 2025 12:08 AM (sAmhv)

365 So Carney's Canadian government is going to take capital away from companies that don't adopt its government's climate change agenda.

And Carney announced tonight that his government is looking into banning social media like X.

Canada is quickly going to take pre-Milei Argentina's place as the hemisphere's basket case.

I used to think that Alberta and Saskatchewan weren't actually going to leave, but now it seems like this would be the best course of action for both of these provinces.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 05, 2025 12:09 AM (ItW09)

366 Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora...
Posted by: JQ

Ok...

Can't promise, but will try

Gotta buy some stuff

Posted by: Anonymous Bartender at May 05, 2025 12:09 AM (LP6Fv)

367 I leave my hair long for Thor, and you want to talk about looking like a hag.... some older women look great with long hair. My 61 year old self ain't one of them, but he's likes it, so long it is.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:09 AM (Vvh2V)

368 Confession: my dearly beloved late wife wore hats all the time. One of her anthropology professors nicknamed her “Hat”. He became a dear family friend. (She was anthropology student of the year when she graduated.) She always wore hats outside and she always looked great in them.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:10 AM (6nn2F)

369 366 Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora...
Posted by: JQ


I’ve never had a pair of leather pants. Sounds pretty bad ass.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2025 12:10 AM (mT+6a)

370 Links to the stories above:

https://tinyurl.com/4t9vxa45

https://tinyurl.com/3j9sfr48

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 05, 2025 12:10 AM (ItW09)

371 Bless you Tammy. You know you may look a lot better in his eyes than you think you do to others, or even yourself.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:12 AM (6nn2F)

372 You know, leather pants are less fun than you’d think.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:13 AM (l3YAf)

373 I haven't been down that way on I95 in a long time. Does 'South of the Border' still exist?
Posted by: Puddleglum

Schaeffer was a marketing genius.

Turned a wide spot in the road into a Bidnis.

https://tinyurl.com/bdhus3ta

They even have Honeymoon Suites

Posted by: this one girl keeps mentioning the honeymoon part at May 05, 2025 12:13 AM (LP6Fv)

374 South of the Border was still there last time I went through, which now that I think of it was pre-COVID. Haven’t stopped in years.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:14 AM (6nn2F)

375 ------

So, the rescue troops rallying at South of the Border can disperse?
Posted by: Pedro at May 04, 2025 11:56 PM (XeU6L)
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There is heavy administrative recalcitrance.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:14 AM (/X/7F)

376 should one were to use the subjunctive tenses, it might help avoiding conjunctivitis.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2025 12:15 AM (D7oie)

377 I’ve never had a pair of leather pants. Sounds pretty bad ass.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Wilson Leather, is where I bought.

They were nice. Fully lined. Slim fit... about $200 in early 2000s. Had stored them at Dad's after he passed (space constraints, ya know)

Of course they were stolen when that Ahole broke in at Dad's!

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:15 AM (rdVOm)

378 I once had a pair of brown suede trousers.

And a motorcycle (a Pannonia)

Now I have neither.

Sic Transit Gloria

Posted by: probably for the better at May 05, 2025 12:16 AM (LP6Fv)

379 >>>Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora...
Posted by: JQ
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You, that's hot.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:16 AM (/X/7F)

380 Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at May 04, 2025 11:57 PM (tjZg

Oh gosh, yes, absolutely! I'm just saying that wearing a veil/ head covering was the common practice of the day, and Mary wasn't the only one doing it, so I wasn't sure why that specific trait was chosen to be the one venerated. Perhaps it was the easiest to adopt?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:16 AM (Vvh2V)

381
Ah, the famous Tatooine, two suns. They've discovered a little over 40 exoplanets in such circumbinary orbits so far. That's dubbed a P-type orbit. The planet orbits both stars.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2025 12:17 AM (w6EFb)

382 I used to think that Alberta and Saskatchewan weren't actually going to leave, but now it seems like this would be the best course of action for both of these provinces.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 05, 2025 12:09 AM (ItW09)


today Viva Frei said that he figured that if Alberta certifies to leave Canada, Quebec will be off like a shot too, and Canada will lose its two major resource areas.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2025 12:17 AM (D7oie)

383 Of course they were stolen when that Ahole broke in at Dad's!
Posted by: JQ at

Same guy?

I have a neighbor named Bill the Asshole.

Because his name is Bill, and he is an asshole.

Posted by: the HOA at May 05, 2025 12:18 AM (LP6Fv)

384 Japaneat just an hour ago released the 70th review of the more than 80 restaurants below a busy shopping street. I am going to be depressed when he finishes his reviews of these restaurants.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 05, 2025 12:18 AM (ItW09)

385 Japaneat's Episode 70:

https://tinyurl.com/2pskakzf

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at May 05, 2025 12:19 AM (ItW09)

386 I miss Wilson’s Leather as an outlet store. You can still buy from them online which works. At least they haven’t tried to throw off their older customers the way Bass shoes did. Bright blue tipped shoes - ugh! I don’t think that works even as a rock and roll song.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:19 AM (6nn2F)

387 Of course they were stolen when that Ahole broke in at Dad's!
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:15 AM (rdVOm)

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Of course. The leather pants are always the first thing they go for.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 05, 2025 12:20 AM (hY4dx)

388 344 Welp, Jr. Dude totaled the crosstrek(no injuries, subie did its job) Emergency car buying has commenced. Did I mention I loath car buying?
Posted by: a dude in MI at May 04, 2025 11:58 PM (+I6Y/)

Jr. Anonymous totaled our 2007 Forester in 2012. Not a scratch on him, walked away unharmed. Single car accident, hit a light pole. I tell him if he buys a house with room for me to park my camper so I don't have to pay storage all will be forgiven.

He says 'what do you mean you won't pay storage ?'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 05, 2025 12:20 AM (QGaXH)

389 Interesting discussion in here tonight.

Re head covering for women in church. It is traditional, but as with many traditions I think the meaning has been lost.

I think it does have to do with modesty and respect. I also think it had to do with male/female roles and possibly married vs unmarried females.

I don't think it has to do with purity. A married woman having sex with her husband is in no way to be considered impure.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:21 AM (PcTds)

390 Good news from our pale cousins across the pond.

In July of 2024, the Labour Party and Kier Starmer won general elections ...seeking to punish conservatives for not following through on their Brexit promises and stopping mass open immigration. ...Brexit movement was a success was because it attempted to address growing concerns among UK natives that their ties to the European Union had trapped them in a prison of progressive politics I...

In 2024, the Reform Party won around 14% of the vote share. This week [2025] in local elections they won 30% of the vote share, crushing Labour and the Conservatives and winning 677 council seats.

Labour lost 187 seats
Conservatives were stunned with a 674 seat loss.
Nigel Farage has hailed Reform UK's gains in Thursday's elections as "unprecedented" and "the end of two-party politics". The party also won two mayoral races and added a fifth MP to its ranks in the Runcorn.

Some critics say Farage does not go far enough in his solutions for saving the country.
---

‘E just wonj 677 council seats, 2 mayoral seats and added a 5th MP to the Runcorn you bloody fool.

Nigel --- > https://tinyurl.com/4azvhrzt

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:21 AM (/X/7F)

391 Sic transit Gloria.

You mean Gloria was the girl who threw up on the streetcar last Monday?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:21 AM (6nn2F)

392 Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora... OH! What a time!
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:03 AM (rdVOm)

Damn, sounds hot. Where were you at, JQ, The Matrix?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:22 AM (l3YAf)

393 But, Nurse, please do not categorize my views of communion as “not respectful.” I am not obligated to “respect” theological positions with which I disagree. I can, and will, respectfully debate those with whom I disagree theologically, but I cannot be asked to presumptively “respect” assertions with which I disagree. Respect is due to people, not necessarily to ideas.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:22 AM (77rzZ)

394 Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:10 AM (6nn2F)

I feel the love in every word you write about her, and it puts tears in my eyes.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:24 AM (Vvh2V)

395 The observant women I grew up with kept their head shaved or shorn and wore wigs

Do you know the reasoning behind that?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:24 AM (PcTds)

396
There is heavy administrative recalcitrance.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Hell...half of my cavalry (NC-Buncombe Cav. Reg 1) is already up in Shelby, drinking beer and eating barbeque. Probably don't even know where their damned horses are.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2025 12:24 AM (XeU6L)

397 At least they haven’t tried to throw off their older customers the way Bass shoes did. Bright blue tipped shoes - ugh! I don’t think that works even as a rock and roll song.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

When I got hired as an Extra in one of the worst movies ever made (Shag-198, which I have never seen other than the transatlantic in-flight short version, we had to show up dressed like it was 1962.

The only thing I did not have, but could easily borrow, were my Daddy's Bass Weejuns.

Posted by: barely even saw Pheobe Cates, which (plus $300) was the Main Thing at May 05, 2025 12:25 AM (LP6Fv)

398 357 Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora... OH! What a time!
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:03 AM (rdVOm)

I'm not going to a Mo Meet if I have to wear that......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 05, 2025 12:25 AM (QGaXH)

399 Weeping Willow by Scott Joplin is surprisingly difficult piano piece, at least for my intermediate skills. Been at it two weeks

Please keep us informed of your progress. Joplin's pieces are very entertaining.

I would like to learn Mozart's full "little star" next.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:26 AM (PcTds)

400 Probably don't even know where their damned horses are.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Men-Whisky

Horses-beer

Posted by: As I was taught at May 05, 2025 12:26 AM (LP6Fv)

401 So, we determined that the local solid waste transfer facility is.... the Tug Bar. Called to find out what the hours are, because we are still cleaning out the crap that the last owner of this place left behind. The woman who answered the phone (at 8:00 on a Sunday evening) was a little confused when DH asked what the hours are for the solid waste disposal facility. We thought we would get a recording, but no. She said, oh yeah, that's she is, and the are open until probably nine tonight. So DH asked to be certain, you mean the place by the Tug Bar. She said, we are the Tug Bar, and we handle the cash for the solid waste site.

Huh.

Alaska is a strange place.

The Tug Bar is awesome, good food, crusty locals, great drinks, just our kind of vibe. They have live music outdoors on Saturdays, shooting every second Sunday and sometimes on Saturdays as well, and if you get too drunk to drive they can rent you a crappy room out back to sleep it off. Most folks take the 4-wheeler so they don't have to drive on the road.

It's a mile from our place. We chose... wisely.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:27 AM (a4NoL)

402 OK, it’s time to lighten things up here.

BOOBS!

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:28 AM (77rzZ)

403 F-tard what broke into Dad's, was looking for anything pawnable. Took tools, antiques, model train & plane gear... yeah, fker went through the one closet, but didn't have time to get through the other-- didn't take my leather coats & skirts before he got busted.

Oh, and he was merely ticketed for "trespassing" because (wah!) homeless or whateverthefuk...

***deep breaths***

Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:29 AM (rdVOm)

404 Black leather pants & high heels, white silk blouse with skinny dark red tie, black leather trench coat... red lipsick... and a black fedora.

Ok



Found most of the stuff

*mirror, turn*

Oh honey, I am lookin' GOOD

Posted by: things...change a man at May 05, 2025 12:30 AM (LP6Fv)

405 395 The observant women I grew up with kept their head shaved or shorn and wore wigs

Do you know the reasoning behind that?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:24 AM (PcTds)

Same reason real Catholic women cover their heads. A woman's hair is her crown, and it is reserved for the husband, so it is kept covered. In the case of a Catholic woman, it is because St. Paul said it was because of the angels, IOW, because they see everything, and therefore we veil.

Catholics mostly only in Church, but for observant Jewesses, allways.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:30 AM (a4NoL)

406 Damn, sounds hot. Where were you at, JQ, The Matrix?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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On a date. It was winter time. Very comfortable and *he* thought it was HOT too... ooh la la!

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:31 AM (rdVOm)

407 today Viva Frei said that he figured that if Alberta certifies to leave Canada, Quebec will be off like a shot too, and Canada will lose its two major resource areas.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 05, 2025 12:17 AM (D7oie)

Quebec has resources, true. But are they major? No oil to speak of. Might have frackable gas/liquids in the Gaspe region, but they are anti-fracking. Minerals? Yes, but hardly unique to Quebec. Most of their developable hydroelectric potential is developed, I believe. Also logging, but again scarcely unique. Not much coal, AFAIK. Ontario can probably match or beat Quebec, dollar for dollar, in resources.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2025 12:31 AM (S8BjZ)

408 Tug Bar brings about a different image but none the less it sounds like a great place. There are no real eats around here, all synthetic.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:32 AM (/X/7F)

409 Not much coal, AFAIK. Ontario can probably match or beat Quebec, dollar for dollar, in resources.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2025 12:31 AM (S8BjZ)

Plus, Quebec, so who would want it?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:32 AM (a4NoL)

410 Oh honey, I am lookin' GOOD
Posted by: things...change a man
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Oh honey, made this woman look GOOD too! It was fun fashion.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (rdVOm)

411 Thank you, Tammy. I suspect I will never marry again, and I know I will never meet anyone like her again, until I meet her as a sister in Christ in Heaven.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (6nn2F)

412
Re female head coverings, it wasn't only in church. It was outdoors anywhere. A woman dashing out with her head uncovered would whip out a handkerchief or whatever and awkwardly hold it on her head while the wind lapped at it. This was quite a few years ago, like I remember reading passages like that in Balzac and Flaubert.

Now onto something else...

Does anyone know what it means that the National Endowment for the Humanities "is an independent federal agency"? Independent of what? I'm trying to figure it out because it's cutting grants that look deserving to me, while the university is a hotbed of DEI. I'm not sure what the official definition of "independent" means is all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (U7Gpi)

413 Ontario can probably match or beat Quebec, dollar for dollar, in resources.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Hydro power?

Posted by: A somewhat reconciled Panhard at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (LP6Fv)

414 >> my leather coats & skirts

Leather skirts? 🤨

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (l3YAf)

415 405 Oh, fer cryin’ out loud!

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:34 AM (77rzZ)

416 408 Tug Bar brings about a different image but none the less it sounds like a great place. There are no real eats around here, all synthetic.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:32 AM (/X/7F)

As I understand it, Tug Bar refers to the dude that originally built it, and he ran one of the tugs for the Port of Anchorage, which isn't far across the Inlet, so he ran from Goose Bay to the Port, and then ran the bar at night.

He doesn't own it anymore, I think his ex runs it, but it remains a staple of Knik culture and also a biker destination. And they know our names, so there's that.

Our neighborhood bar, so to speak.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:34 AM (a4NoL)

417 Leather skirts? 🤨
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Yes. What's the problem?

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:35 AM (rdVOm)

418 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:21 AM (Pc ds)

No, marital sex is not impure, but the woman is no longer virginal, and is impure in that respect. It wasn't meant as an insult, but it necessitated the head covering. She was carnal. Same thing with menstruating; women were considered unclean during their menses, and not allowed in places of worship. And I can just about imagine why, in that heat, no running water, no modern sanitary products. 😂 Some groups sent them to live in special areas outside the city walls! 🤣

All that to say that pure had various connotations. And I've often wondered if all the veils and coverings in general might have helped with odor control in a desert climate thousands of years ago..... 😁

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:35 AM (Vvh2V)

419
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:30 AM (a4NoL)

==============

Even though I really want to get an answer to my question about the NEH's independence, I'll add to this discussion yet again, to say:

That doesn't tell us why their heads are shaved or shorn.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:36 AM (U7Gpi)

420 411 Thank you, Tammy. I suspect I will never marry again, and I know I will never meet anyone like her again, until I meet her as a sister in Christ in Heaven.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (6nn2F)

Some marriages are one and done. I can't imagine every remarrying were I to lose DH. I think you only get one soulmate in life, and he is certainly it. God is good, and I am particularly blessed. Sounds like you were, too.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:36 AM (a4NoL)

421 Ontario can probably match or beat Quebec, dollar for dollar, in resources.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Hydro power?
Posted by: A somewhat reconciled Panhard at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (LP6Fv)

Niagara Falls ring a bell?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2025 12:37 AM (S8BjZ)

422 AOP what form would AB's "independence" take, or is there a menu and nobody yet knows? Not full national independence and sovereignty, I assume? Some sort of compact with Ottawa?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2025 12:37 AM (1m82a)

423 >>>
Catholics mostly only in Church, but for observant Jewesses, allways.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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Speculating, San Franpsycho, story. The ladies shaved their hair and wore wigs, thus they were covered.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:37 AM (/X/7F)

424 I recall that when Quebec had it's last and almost successful vote on independence, the Parti Quebequois said "Our economic relationship with the US will continue as before."

Bush I said "Who told you that?"

That is suspected to have changed the independence vote, just enough.

Posted by: Magyar with memory at May 05, 2025 12:37 AM (LP6Fv)

425 395 The observant women I grew up with kept their head shaved or shorn and wore wigs

Do you know the reasoning behind that?
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:24 AM (PcTds)

An female African American co-worker confided to me that many AA ladies wear wigs due to issues with AA hair.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at May 05, 2025 12:37 AM (QGaXH)

426 Leather skirts? 🤨
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Yes. What's the problem?
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:35 AM (rdVOm)

Lol, nothing. Just reminds me of my lost youth.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:38 AM (l3YAf)

427 Sorry, all this head-covering business as a religious requirement is nonsense.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:38 AM (77rzZ)

428
marital sex is not impure, but the woman is no longer virginal, and is impure in that respect.

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Well that whole idea is just bullshit. I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve had sex before the apple business, and she wasn't impure at that point. She was just doing what she was divinely intended to do. Same for all wives.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:39 AM (U7Gpi)

429 Nonsense for either sex.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:39 AM (77rzZ)

430 The idea that earthly elements could take on divine attributes is idolatry.
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Tell that to Jesus, who was made of earthly elements.

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Indeed, a central tenet of Christianity is the divine God become "earthly" or incarnate.

Goodnight Bulg - thanks for spurring conversation

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:40 AM (PcTds)

431 Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:33 AM (6nn2F)

But should you meet someone you care for, don't deny yourself another marriage. I am serious when I say that she may well send you someone. Your happiness is still of great importance to her.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:40 AM (Vvh2V)

432 All that to say that pure had various connotations. And I've often wondered if all the veils and coverings in general might have helped with odor control in a desert climate thousands of years ago..... 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:35 AM (Vvh2V)

Contact with blood was considered unclean, with good reason. It probably mostly was, before hygiene was improved. If you look at the rules for humane slaughter that meets kosher standards, you will see that the blood matters greatly. It was considered the seat of life, and spilling it was considered somewhat blasphemous, even that of animals. The various temple rituals involved catching the blood, which was a difficult maneuver for menstrual blood, hence the unclean designation. Also why women had to be purified after giving birth, which also involves a fair amount of blood.

A veil meant that one's hair was reserved for one's husband. I think for observant Jewesses, shaving makes wearing a wig easier, but I don't know any other reason for shaving. I have never seen anything in the Torah or Talmud dictating a shaved head, only a covered one. Wigs are a fairly new contrivance to accomplish that task. A fashion?

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:41 AM (a4NoL)

433 428 Blonde Morticia, I completely agree.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:41 AM (77rzZ)

434 Just reminds me of my lost youth.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Seeing those lovely skirts just hanging in a closet, reminds me of my own lost youth, now. It's time to take them to a resale shop I guess.

At 29, I'd look ridiculous in most of them. There are a couple that are longer, classic styles, so will keep them for another while.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

435 >>>Some groups sent them to live in special areas outside the city walls! 🤣
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Women that hang out together cycle together. I've had the thought that they may have looked forward to it. Sort of a get-a-way for the girls. Let the men fend for themselves.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:42 AM (/X/7F)

436 Tourist suffers horrific fate attempting to take a selfie at Colosseum

https://mol.im/a/14678153

Posted by: Ciampino - yikes! at May 05, 2025 12:43 AM (sPQoU)

437 AOP what form would AB's "independence" take, or is there a menu and nobody yet knows? Not full national independence and sovereignty, I assume? Some sort of compact with Ottawa?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2025 12:37 AM (1m82a)

I assume it would be full secession, and then possibly negotiate some sort of association with the rump of Canada? I would prefer to see Alberta and Saskatchewan be annexed by the USA, and given Territorial status to begin with, but that is still a tough sell here, although it is being talked about.

Alberta and Saskatchewan have no military. What happens if we declare secession, and Canada says, No! We cannot just appropriate the military equipment and personnel that exist on the bases here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2025 12:43 AM (S8BjZ)

438 430 Goodnight. I’m always happy to engage in good-faith debate on any subject.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:45 AM (77rzZ)

439 427 Sorry, all this head-covering business as a religious requirement is nonsense.
Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:38 AM (77rzZ)

Of course you are free to believe what you do, but I do not consider it nonsense at all. As Catholics, we veil that which is sacred, meaning we put a veil over the tabernacle that holds the Divine Body of Or Lord. Likewise, we veil women, because they are the closest to Mary, the only human who was without sin. A veil is also a sign of our devotion to Our Lord, who wishes us to be chaste, cleaving only to our husbands, and therefore not to be an image of temptation to others. When a woman visits St. Peter's she will not be allowed in without a head covering of some sort, her shoulders and knees covered. Modesty matters. I feel I am worth it, created by God as I am.

YMMV.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:45 AM (a4NoL)

440 Again, thank you Tammy. I don’t have my heart set against it, I just think the odds are against it. I would even consider dating a woman with a tattoo ( just not a heart with a dagger through it!).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:45 AM (6nn2F)

441 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:39 AM (U7Gpi)

I agree! I'm very inarticulate, as you, of all people know by now! Impure can be interpreted as simply meaning no longer virgin, or even just mean married. No longer innocent. Little girls are not required to cover their heads ( outside of Confirmation or First Communion, I think?)

It wasn't meant to be insulting, more of a noting of the change in status, and a mark of respect.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 12:46 AM (Vvh2V)

442 Well, time for me to let the dog in, and for me to go to bed. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2025 12:46 AM (S8BjZ)

443 'Night, AOP

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:49 AM (rdVOm)

444 At 29, I'd look ridiculous in most of them. There are a couple that are longer, classic styles, so will keep them for another while.
Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

Now that I am 29, I only wear dresses or skirts, most of them not very formal, but very comfortable. If they were good enough for Grandma, I guess they are good enough for me. I farm in them, and everything else.

Just a personal preference. Maybe I like the breeze up my parts, or something. But I like it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:49 AM (a4NoL)

445
I'm very inarticulate, as you, of all people know by now!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

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Tsk tsk I know no such thing.

But anyway, do you know in what sense the NEH is "an independent federal agency"? I'm trying to figure out why they've yanked funding for a legit-looking project. I imagine there's a good reason somewhere, but I'm trying to start this little inquiry by understanding what these administrative terms mean.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:50 AM (U7Gpi)

446 tcn -

Wasn’t Jesus wholly God and wholly human? And he was without sin. So I think you mean that Mary - according to the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception - was the only _other_ person without sin? Pardon me if I have misunderstood.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:50 AM (6nn2F)

447 Modesty matters. I feel I am worth it, created by God as I am.

YMMV.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:45 AM (a4NoL)

Agreed. Reverence must be cultivated. I don’t want my behavior, thoughts or words inside of a sacred place to be the same as outside. If religion should do anything to us, it should change us and make us more modest.

I don’t know that there’s an absolute scale for right and wrong, but I’m always eager to be reverent before the Blessed Eucgarist.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:51 AM (l3YAf)

448 *Eucharist.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:51 AM (l3YAf)

449 Oh, and he was merely ticketed for "trespassing" because (wah!) homeless or whateverthefuk...

Ugh indeed. Sorry to hear this JQ. I would be very uneasy thinking someone had invaded my space!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 12:53 AM (PcTds)

450 Niagara Falls ring a bell?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

My parents had their honeymoon there.

Thankfully, they declined the barrel ride.

Posted by: amazed that I am still here at May 05, 2025 12:53 AM (LP6Fv)

451 439 Sorry, where does it say in the Gospels that Mary was without sin?

And what does it matter anyway?

Catholics keep bringing up all these irrelevant issues, and acting like they’re necessary for Christian faith.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:53 AM (77rzZ)

452 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:49 AM

Welllll... I don't believe I'd want to be gardening in a leather miniskirt, LOL.

But I understand the general comfort of skirts & dresses. It's just that my only "feminine attire" is of the formal (or even *racy*) type.

I wear jeans, t-shirts, & sneakers mostly.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:54 AM (rdVOm)

453 I’d wear skirts or dresses every day if I could.

Alas, it’s scrubs and clogs. Oh well.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 05, 2025 12:54 AM (8Xlir)

454 Guys have to get part of their dick chopped off.

But chicks covering their heads is a bridge too far.

Whatthefuckever.

Is there anything women won't turn into a federal case?

Posted by: Waaaaah! at May 05, 2025 12:55 AM (lCYIV)

455 Goodnight. I’m always happy to engage in good-faith debate on any subject.
Posted by: Bulg

No you're not

Posted by: i came here for an Argument at May 05, 2025 12:55 AM (LP6Fv)

456 Mary is the counter to Eve. Eve brought sin into this world; Mary brought salvation from sin into this world.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:56 AM (l3YAf)

457 All that to say that pure had various connotations. And I've often wondered if all the veils and coverings in general might have helped with odor control in a desert climate thousands of years ago..... 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Veils and coverings in that hot sun?
Your own personal sun shade. Keep them light, billowing, ans airy.

Even the men were flowing dresses and head coverings.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2025 12:56 AM (/lPRQ)

458 446 tcn -

Wasn’t Jesus wholly God and wholly human? And he was without sin. So I think you mean that Mary - according to the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception - was the only _other_ person without sin? Pardon me if I have misunderstood.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 12:50 AM (6nn2F)

Yes, but obviously Jesus was fully God as well as human. I think he had a leg up on the whole no sin thing.

Mary was pure by choice, and it was a wholly human choice. At her dormition, she was assumed body and soul into heaven, because from the time she said yes to the Archangel Gabriel, she was, outside of time and space, entirely without sin, but by her own choice, know as the Fiat ( I will).

Not quite the same thing, at all. Of course Jesus was sinless, but I expect that to be the case because he is also entirely God while being entirely human.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:56 AM (a4NoL)

459 This is MSN. It sounds like a big DEI plan. Part of it is NPR and Public TV so you know they are screaming bloody murder.
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President Donald Trump’s budget proposal would eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities, reviving his failed first-term attempts to scrap the grantmaking agencies as he moves to reshape the nation’s artistic and cultural landscape.

The proposed cuts come even after the NEH slashed its workforce and the NEA canceled grants in compliance with Trump’s directives to reduce the federal workforce and shut down diversity, equity and inclusion programs. The tentative budget plan also targets the Institute of Museum and Library Services and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, as part of $163 billion in proposed cuts across much of the federal government.

Established by Congress in 1965, the NEA serves as the largest funder of the arts and arts education for communities across the country, primarily through grantmaking. The NEH helps fund humanities programs by supporting museums, libraries, universities, and public television and radio stations.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:56 AM (/X/7F)

460 So you Catholics can keep bringing up your theology here, but we Protestants can’t?

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:57 AM (77rzZ)

461 >> Mary was pure by choice, and it was a wholly human choice.

☝️

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (l3YAf)

462
Mary was pure by choice, and it was a wholly human choice.

Posted by: tcn in AK

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I don't think so. She was born without original sin on her soul. The Immaculate Conception.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (U7Gpi)

463 Sorry to hear this JQ. I would be very uneasy thinking someone had invaded my space!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel
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Thanks. It happened 2 years ago-- I've come to terms with it all. Fker *ransacked* the place but did no damage. Thankfully nobody lived there at the time.

I still have... less than charitable feelings... about the whole thing.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (rdVOm)

464 Nonsense for either sex.
Posted by: Bulg

I.Just.Cant.Even.

Posted by: Associate Justice Jumanji-Jackson-Browne at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (LP6Fv)

465 Thanks AOP. Surprised to hear that the rest of Canada would resist secession with force (if that's what you said). Thought there was a process for separation?

Dark times. Suspect dissatisfaction will only increase if the new clown management in Ottawa continues ruinous policies while the US presumably starts to come to life again.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (1m82a)

466 From the White House:

Last night, President Donald J. Trump signed an executive order ending the taxpayer subsidization of National Public Radio (NPR) and the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) — entities that receive tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer funds each year to spread radical, woke propaganda disguised as “news.”

Here are some examples of the trash that has passed for “news” at NPR and PBS:

NPR ran a story titled “Cannibalism: It’s ‘Perfectly Natural,’” in which an author described eating another human’s placenta: “It was really the prep that made it taste good. Granted, the [husband] was a chef and so he knew how to prepare it osso bucco style and used a really nice wine I had brought. It smelled great. It didn’t taste bad.”

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (/X/7F)

467 Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:38 AM (77rzZ)


Nonsense isn't the right word. I'm Protestant as well, and I would never disparage it. I might not believe it's a necessity, nor do I think not doing so is a sin, but what is nonsensical about it? It's a sign of reverence.

I feel bad dragging it out and hope I haven't offended anyone. I think it's lovely and I was merely pointing out that it predates all the Abrahamic religions, who adapted it as they saw fit.

I hate seeing Muslim women forced in to burquas and abayas, but I also hate the way Western culture has devolved in to glorifying dressing like streetwalkers, especially little girls and teens!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 01:00 AM (Vvh2V)

468 I still have... less than charitable feelings... about the whole thing.
Posted by: JQ

*calming beignets and cafe au lait, Mademoiselle*

Posted by: Cafe du Monde waiter at May 05, 2025 01:00 AM (LP6Fv)

469
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 12:56 AM (/X/7F)

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w00t, thank you. At least one very cool project just got cut at Saint Louis University (a hotbed of DEI bs and whose president signed that stupid letter defying Trump's determination to reinstall free thought at universities) and I'm trying to figure out what bigger thing is going on. Possibly the end of all NEH grants.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 01:02 AM (U7Gpi)

470 Given the cretinization of the country and the collapse of the civic culture, it's all just academic, but behold yet again the idiocy of the "press" (and most of its actual consumers):

"as he moves to reshape the nation’s artistic and cultural landscape."

WTF? *Ending* federal $$$ to the arts is an attempt to "reshape" them? Obviously it's the opposite. They will now be free to do what they please for $$ they can scam, er, raise from anywhere they like. The feds will have no say whatsoever.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2025 01:02 AM (1m82a)

471 Granted, the [husband] was a chef and so he knew how to prepare it osso bucco style and used a really nice wine I had brought. It smelled great. It didn’t taste bad.”
Posted by: Braenyard
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OH BARF!!!! THAT IS DISGUSTING!

*ahem*

Sorry. It just HURLED out....

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 01:02 AM (rdVOm)

472 Catholics keep bringing up all these irrelevant issues, and acting like they’re necessary for Christian faith.
Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:53 AM (77rzZ)

Nobody said any of this is necessary for Christian faith. Faith is gift from God, undeserved but available to all, just like the river of Grace that flows from heaven.

However, to understand how the entire enterprise works, a great many things have come to light based upon Revelation and Tradition, both of which have been passed down through the ages for our benefit and to support our faith.

If this sound obnoxious, I do not mean it to be so. Get a nice compendium of the Early Church Fathers and read what they have to say about the Jesus they knew. A great deal of intelligent discussion takes place there, based upon both the Bible (that was yet to be codified) and upon what Jesus told them directly. A great deal of clarity about what the Church was meant to be is found in the founding documents, which we have mostly entire from that time period.

Catholics don't make things up out of nothing. All if it is derived from original source material. But if you have faith, you are still good to go.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:03 AM (a4NoL)

473 *calming beignets and cafe au lait, Mademoiselle*
Posted by: Cafe du Monde waiter at May 05, 2025 01:00 AM (LP6Fv)


Here's your tip: Don't get banned.

Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 01:04 AM (gKDq2)

474 I don't think so. She was born without original sin on her soul. The Immaculate Conception.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (U7Gpi)

Yes, but she was chosen because she would say Yes to God at every point. Humans have free will, even Mary.

God knows the future and the past. Therefore, he could only choose as the vessel of his only begotten Son someone who was completely free of sin. Mary was not a robot made incapable of sin.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 01:04 AM (l3YAf)

475 Would love some beignets and chicory coffee (and fresh OJ) from Cafe du Monde in the morning. Friends just went to Jazzfest, haven't talked to them. I'm sort of over large events.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 05, 2025 01:05 AM (1m82a)

476 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:50 AM (U7Gpi)

It means they have no freaking oversight, IMHO. I think it literally means they don't fall under a specific department. Not really sure, but I think that's what it is.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 01:05 AM (Vvh2V)

477 Thank you for the beignets and cafe au lait, but I've suddenly lost my appetite....

Thanks anyway!

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 01:05 AM (rdVOm)

478 Here's your tip: Don't get banned.
Posted by: RickZ

I been kicked ougtta better joints

Posted by: Ixnay on the Iklosmay at May 05, 2025 01:05 AM (LP6Fv)

479 I been kicked ougtta better joints
Posted by: Ixnay on the Iklosmay at May 05, 2025 01:05 AM (LP6Fv)


We're not talking about your short stay at the YMCA.

Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 01:06 AM (gKDq2)

480 Tammy, I’m not advocating that people shouldn’t dress respectfully in church. As a male, I reflexively remove my hat inside of any building, sacred or secular. So why should women not uncover their heads also?

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:06 AM (77rzZ)

481 Granted, the [husband] was a chef and so he knew how to prepare it osso bucco style and used a really nice wine I had brought. It smelled great. It didn’t taste bad.”
Posted by: Braenyard
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OH BARF!!!! THAT IS DISGUSTING!

*ahem*

Sorry. It just HURLED out....
Posted by: JQ
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Meh,
What animals do to recover lost nutrients to survive.
They will et the runt of the litter too.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 05, 2025 01:07 AM (/lPRQ)

482 The Catholic faith is intricate and has a fair number of sacred traditions and beliefs with which (duh) many Protestants do not agree. These are not matters for debate, but comprise part of the mysteries of faith for Catholics. By and large they do not care whether an atheist or Protestant disagrees with the particulars of the faith.

Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at May 05, 2025 01:07 AM (WvGHv)

483 Not to change the subject but I've missed the late nights.
How is the Mr. doing and you?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:07 AM (/X/7F)

484 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:41 AM (a4NoL)

Exactly. Many ancient peoples in that region believed that the soul resided in the blood. That, again, carried over in to the religios practices.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 01:08 AM (Vvh2V)

485 I don't think so. She was born without original sin on her soul. The Immaculate Conception.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 12:58 AM (U7Gpi)

OK here's the weird thing. Until Mary said yes to the Angel, she was just like the rest of us. But because she said yes, she was then created sinless, i.e., the Immaculate Conception. It happened outside of space and time.

It's confusing as hell, but that's how it worked. She had the choice to say no. Free will is gift from God, and she had it just like we do. She chose wisely. At about the age of 12. None of us were nearly that wise at that age.

As humans, we really can't figure this out chronologically, because it didn't happen chronologically. God is outside of space and time. He sees everything that ever happened and ever will all at one time. We are not capable of that.

Yes, it is supposed to blow your mind. And no, I'm not a dope smoker. Read St. Thomas Aquinas sometime. It will explain it, but you still won't understand it.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:09 AM (a4NoL)

486 Bulg -

It doesn’t say it in the Bible, but the pope announced the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception ex cathedra, so a believing Roman Catholic must accept it as a matter of faith. This is one of the key differences between Catholics and Protestants. Protestants are sola scriptural. That’s not all of the differences, but it’s late and I am tired. Note that the Orthodox Churches don’t have the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception either. It’s solely a Roman Catholic doctrine (including the Uniate churches, which share doctrine with the RCC). In any case, I think you must meet people where they stand, if you disagree with a Roman Catholic and want to argue about transubstantiation, or the immaculate conception of Mary, you are really arguing about papal infallibility, and I think you have a much steeper hill to climb there with most Roman Catholics. Best to not imitate Sisyphus.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 01:09 AM (6nn2F)

487 A woman's hair is her crown, and it is reserved for the husband, so it is kept covered.

As Catholics, we veil that which is sacred, meaning we put a veil over the tabernacle that holds the Divine Body of Or Lord. Likewise, we veil women, because they are the closest to Mary, the only human who was without sin.

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These reasons make sense to me. Veiling would then be indications of gender differences.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:09 AM (PcTds)

488 Good night AOP

Glad you made it safely home.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:10 AM (PcTds)

489 Catholic Mariolatry is blasphemous and idolatrous.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:10 AM (77rzZ)

490 460 So you Catholics can keep bringing up your theology here, but we Protestants can’t?
Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 12:57 AM (77rzZ)

Nobody here ever said that. Feel free to do so. But so far, your comments are that Catholics are crazy or worse. Please present your case. Nobody is going to pick on your for that.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:11 AM (a4NoL)

491 Fun recollection-

A friend and I made a point of being the last guests and being more-or-less politely kicked out of and closing bars on *sad* only five (5) continents.

Never made it to PixyLand or or the Alien Nazi UFO bases in Antarctica.

Posted by: Iklosmay feels the Mission is Incomplete at May 05, 2025 01:11 AM (LP6Fv)

492 We're not talking about your short stay at the YMCA.
Posted by: RickZ

*does the Trump Dance*

Posted by: Iklosmay feels James Brown GOOD at May 05, 2025 01:13 AM (LP6Fv)

493 486 I don’t believe anything that a Pope has ever said.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:13 AM (77rzZ)

494
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:09 AM (a4NoL)

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It doesn't really blow my mind since none of that is new to me. It's how I envision the afterlife, in fact. If we don't come back, then we face an agonizing fate if we have to continue in linear time. Seriously, a billion years, have you thought of that? A trillion years? The only way a human soul would be able to bear eternity is if it's one big Now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 01:13 AM (U7Gpi)

495 489 Catholic Mariolatry is blasphemous and idolatrous.
Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:10 AM (77rzZ)

Do you believe that Jesus was born of sin? "Mariolatry" is a Protestant term that derides the honor Catholics reserve for the Mother of God. She is not a God, nor is she worshipped. She is honored. It is not the same thing. At all.

I know that most Protestants have to believe that Catholics are wrong, hence they are Protestants. It is the sort of TDS of religions. But if that is what you believe, you are certainly free to do so. I just wish it didn't involve denigrating Catholics for what we have believed for over 2,000 years.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:14 AM (a4NoL)

496 President Donald Trump’s budget proposal would eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities,

Do it!!

And keep going!!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:14 AM (PcTds)

497 Catholic and Protestant are very different but both believe in God who created the heaven and the earth, all things and small, all that is. And his only begotten son who he sent here to clarify a few things.

I think Catholics who have choose their path and stick to it will cross the goal and I believe the same for Protestants. Somewhere in the book it is said that God hates the middling. Either one way or the other or 'I will spit you out', I think.

Arguments between the two groups as to which is superior are counter productive. Time could be better spent better understanding what we agree on. And that is plenty.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:15 AM (/X/7F)

498 I don’t believe anything that a Pope has ever said.
Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:13 AM (77rzZ)

Nobody is forcing you to do so. The Immaculate Conception was the last ex-Cathedra statement by a Pope, and it really just stated for the record that which was already held by the Early Church Fathers, some of whom knew her.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:18 AM (a4NoL)

499 President Donald Trump’s budget proposal would eliminate the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities,

Do it!!

And keep going!!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel

Fuck my life because FASCIST

And thousands like me

I have spent FOUR (4) YEARS doing some kinda art-like stuff.

I was counting on that money

Posted by: You know who else was a frustrated artist? at May 05, 2025 01:18 AM (LP6Fv)

500 Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:10 AM (77rzZ),
: tcn in AK
---

Cut it out. You both know that Thomas Jefferson's letter on, as they call it, separation of church and state was to stop the fighting between the Baptists and the Catholics.

Yall aren't going to settle it tonight.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:19 AM (/X/7F)

501 490 No, Catholics are not crazy. The Catholic Church is.

Show me Biblical support for “veneration” (i.e., worship) of Mary and the “saints.”

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:19 AM (77rzZ)

502 Mary is the counter to Eve. Eve brought sin into this world; Mary brought salvation from sin into this world.



If any of you get to visit Mount Angel Abbey outside of Portland, Oregon, they have a painting of a pregnant Mary meeting Eve. Inspired. Highly recommend.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:19 AM (PcTds)

503 @DataRepublican

New Substack Drop: How Soros and the NED Engineered Global Regime Change... with Your Tax Dollars 🇺🇸💸

I ran every issue of the Journal of Democracy (NED’s house organ) through AI to search for Soros references. And what I found is jaw-dropping.

_ Soros-backed groups ran exit polls to discredit elections (Moldova 2009)
_ “Civil society” NGOs blacklisted candidates before votes (Romania 2004)
_ Activists were flown across borders to learn how to topple regimes (Georgia’s Rose Revolution)
_ Soros-funded institutes literally wrote legislation and drafted constitutions abroad
_ Polling was used not just to measure opinion—but to shape political climates ahead of transitions
_ Western-backed coalitions targeted resource control (oil & gas) under the banner of “transparency

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:21 AM (/X/7F)

504 Cut it out. You both know that Thomas Jefferson's letter on, as they call it, separation of church and state was to stop the fighting between the Baptists and the Catholics.

Yall aren't going to settle it tonight.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:19 AM (/X/7F)

Its amusing that more than one State, when they ratified the US Constitution, had laws dictating what religions you could have to hold office.

Those laws were NOT immediately moot, because they were State, and not Federal, Laws.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 05, 2025 01:22 AM (QAkQ3)

505 I look at the Democrats, in total disarray... they have a new person named [Jasmine] Crockett. She's definitely a low-IQ person. They said she's the future of the party!
_President D.J. Trump

Jasmine Crockett:

Salary $174,000
Net Worth $9,000,000
Properties :
$2,000,000 townhouse
$1.5 million loft
$1.5 million lakefront cabin

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:22 AM (/X/7F)

506 Blonde Morticia, I think Trump/DOGE are taking a sledgehammer hammer to everything and will at some point go forward on a case by case basis. I don't think it's going to be very smooth and who knows if they'll even get it done. I've not kept up with my DC contacts and I didn't know many people outside of Defense and the Pentagon anyway, so I have no inside perspective.

NEH, as an independent agency, answers to the President, not, say, The Secretary of Health and Human Services. I'm sure Trump just canned everything in General Principal.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 01:23 AM (Vvh2V)

507 Arguments between the two groups as to which is superior are counter productive. Time could be better spent better understanding what we agree on. And that is plenty.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:15 AM (/X/7F)

The curious part is the arguments, which really amount to nearly nothing. I know both Catholics and Protestants like to claim their differences in belief, but the core of all of it is Jesus, that He came and died to save us, and that He will come again.

If we quit yelling across the divide and start focusing on the Truth, all will be well, all will be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

I don't for one minute think anybody is going to hell because they are Protestants, or Atheists, or Agnostics. That's between them and God. I pray that He sees the heart, not the politics or nonsense, and brings all to light of His love.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:23 AM (a4NoL)

508 Wow. Just popped back in to see what was going on. Sure am glad I missed the theological warfare. God is Love. That's all I need to know.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2025 01:23 AM (mH6SG)

509 Meh,
What animals do to recover lost nutrients to survive.
They will et the runt of the litter too.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Yeah. Animals. They eat bugs, too...

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 01:23 AM (rdVOm)

510 The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, under Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has mandated that all new vaccines undergo rigorous placebo-controlled trials before licensure—a seismic shift in policy that promises to reshape the vaccine approval process.

Announced on May 1, 2025, this directive applies not only to novel vaccines but also to updates for well-known diseases like measles and COVID-19 boosters, raising critical questions about balancing transparency, safety, and timely access to life-saving immunizations.


I've been able to find 22 of those ‘Pandemic Simulations’. Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates play key roles in them...as it was a way of drilling and practicing a coup d'état against American democracy…”
_RFK Jr. HHS Secretary

https://tinyurl.com/3a8x37ve

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:24 AM (/X/7F)

511
Here's the cool tool that's on the NEH's chopping block.

https://t-pen.org/TPEN/

Click into that embedded YouTube at maybe 3 and a half minutes in. Cool! Actually, what's on the chopping block is not the tool itself but an overhaul, something that will make it more useful to scholars. It's not essential, but I like it better than the National Garden of American Heroes.

THAT said, if the big idea is to get the US gov't out of all this picking of winners and non-winners and leave the funding up to donors and other sources of revenue, I get it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 01:26 AM (U7Gpi)

512 This is cute.

Socialist Soulmates - Bernie ❤️ AOC

https://tinyurl.com/4y8d4xdz




Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:27 AM (/X/7F)

513 G'nite, all. We are all God's children. Never lose sight of that.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2025 01:27 AM (mH6SG)

514 As a male, I reflexively remove my hat inside of any building, sacred or secular. So why should women not uncover their heads also?

Well, an easy and yet in our day and age, controversial answer is: male/female differential roles as indicated by attire.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:27 AM (PcTds)

515 Goodnight, All. I tried to tap out once before.

I wish nothing but blessings on the RC members of the Horde. I do learn from you, believe it or not.

Now, for a change of pace, off to pron.

Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:28 AM (77rzZ)

516 No, Catholics are not crazy. The Catholic Church is.

Show me Biblical support for “veneration” (i.e., worship) of Mary and the “saints.”
Posted by: Bulg at May 05, 2025 01:19 AM (77rzZ)

Luke 1:26-38 and 46-55.

For the Saints, both books of Maccabees.

And of course, Revelation (Apocalypse) 12:1-10.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:28 AM (a4NoL)

517 Posted by: Braenyard

I met some Soros people in a pub in Budapest. I helped with translation (they were young Americans). Some beers and they began to tell me things, most prominently "We got Obama elected" until a Senior Person called them aside and told them not to talk to me.

Posted by: Was I banned, or were they? at May 05, 2025 01:29 AM (LP6Fv)

518 Time-like loops are possible in a universe described by a rotating metric - the Gödelian metric - and the universe does appear to be rotating- has turned about 10 degrees since the start of time (so messages to the past are possible - just beyond our engineering capabilities) but if it is possible, God can do it, so a prayer said now - or a vow agreed to - can change the past. This is one of the areas where Protestants have it wrong: they reject 1 and 2 Maccabees because they endorse prayers for the dead. The Protestant reformers were very linear thinkers - read what Luther and Calvin wrote about Copernicus! - so if you died, you were judged by your status at the time of your death - if you died in a state of grace you went Heaven, if not you were sent to Hell. Prayers afterward were ineffectual since you had already been tried and sentenced. Here’s where I think the Protestants got it wrong: if your prayers can travel into the past and be heard before someone died, then they can, perhaps, change the outcome of your judgment in God’s courtroom. So Mary’s vow at the Annunciation could have changed the circumstances of her conception. God could do it without violating his Word.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 01:29 AM (6nn2F)

519
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 01:23 AM (Vvh2V)

=============

That's my sense of it. I know they're busy in D.C., but I wish someone would take the time to spell it out for us.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 05, 2025 01:30 AM (U7Gpi)

520 G'nite, all. We are all God's children. Never lose sight of that.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 05, 2025 01:27 AM (mH6SG)


Some more than others.

Don't tell me God's happy with everybody.

'You know, Adolf, you were a good kid, a little arrogant, but good. That whole Final Solution thing, though, . . . '

Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 01:31 AM (gKDq2)

521 Hello, this is God, I'm listening.

Invoke his name and he's there.

'night.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:33 AM (/X/7F)

522 I don't understand any Katlick (New Orleans pronunciation) v. Protestant disputes in my daily life.

People ask for (and get) prayers here-there is even a Prayer List- and I suspect that God hears all, whether Katlick, Calvinist or Jew.

Posted by: The Lord Shall Hear You at May 05, 2025 01:34 AM (LP6Fv)

523 Catholic Mariolatry is blasphemous and idolatrous.
Posted by: Bulg

Bulg, you are making me laugh. You rhetorically ask if Protestants can talk about their beliefs and then throw out another theological accusation.

I accept that is your belief. Do you want to tell us why that is your belief?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:35 AM (PcTds)

524 I was counting on that money
Posted by: You know who else was a frustrated artist

You choose...poorly... 😉

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:36 AM (PcTds)

525 Oh, Bulg, I hope you’re joking about the pron. May God save you if you weren’t joking!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 01:37 AM (6nn2F)

526 Socialist Soulmates - Bernie ❤️ AOC

https://tinyurl.com/4y8d4xdz




Posted by: Braenyard

We used to get a room...rooms...nice rooms, jacuzzi suites...champagne from Room Service....

But the Orange Nazi shut down USAID...

I ain't paying

Posted by: Bernie the Bolshie at May 05, 2025 01:39 AM (LP6Fv)

527 Cut it out. You both know that Thomas Jefferson's letter on, as they call it, separation of church and state was to stop the fighting between the Baptists and the Catholics.

Yall aren't going to settle it tonight


No it won't be settled tonight, but it is not bad or wrong to explore and explain differences without acrimony, it is a skill that I would like to develop more.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:39 AM (PcTds)

528 Is the Reformation over yet? Just asking...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2025 01:41 AM (XeU6L)

529 this directive applies not only to novel vaccines but also to updates for well-known diseases like measles and COVID-19 boosters,


Thanks for this, I wondered if it applied to established vaccines as well as new ones.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:43 AM (PcTds)

530 Is the Reformation over yet? Just asking...
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Is this a religious or plumbing question?

Posted by: Imklos needs competitive bids for one, not the other at May 05, 2025 01:43 AM (LP6Fv)

531 I apologize if people think I am proselytizing. I am not. I am simply stating what Catholics believe, how we worship, and why. Everyone is perfectly free to believe as they see fit, and God is the giver of faith, not Catholics or Protestants. I can't sit by and watch people denigrate my faith without at least defending it by stating the truth. If your faith means you have to denigrate mine, you might think about that a bit, since I don't believe mine denigrates yours. It is not my intention to pick on anyone, at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:44 AM (a4NoL)

532 PcTds)

528 Is the Reformation over yet? Just asking...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
................................
Yes. Catholics still haven't gotten over it.

(Ducks behind couch)

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 05, 2025 01:49 AM (sAmhv)

533 Cut it out. You both know that Thomas Jefferson's letter on, as they call it, separation of church and state was to stop the fighting between the Baptists and the Catholics.

Yall aren't going to settle it tonight.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 05, 2025 01:19 AM (/X/7F)

Settle it? No. But if I hadn't been exposed to Catholic arguments I never would have converted.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at May 05, 2025 01:49 AM (l3YAf)

534
Show me Biblical support for “veneration” (i.e., worship) of Mary and the “saints.”

Do we need to be told that the Mother of God is to be honored? Just to sit a moment with that fact let's know that she is deserving of great honor.

The idea of heroes has been belittled in our day, but it is good to have heroes and saints are wonderful heroes.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:49 AM (PcTds)

535 I met some Soros people in a pub in Budapest. I helped with translation (they were young Americans). Some beers and they began to tell me things, most prominently "We got Obama elected" until a Senior Person called them aside and told them not to talk to me.

Very interesting. No wonder my tinfoil hat fits so well.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:51 AM (PcTds)

536 My fambly is "mixed": Prods & Catholics, some of both on each side. Messy, when it comes to religious debates. LOL.

But we manage. At arm's length, mostly.

I thought it was sad, that Dad's only brother wouldn't be Dad's best man at his & Mom's (prod) wedding, because he (uncle) didn't get *dispensation to do so* from his parish priest.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 01:54 AM (rdVOm)

537 I enjoy the religious discussions. Tcn, you express your beliefs well, imo. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea so thanks for indulging us.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:57 AM (PcTds)

538 "Now dark hours. For sleep. First rub of belly. Also back. Told to large two-legged. bark"

*this was translated from Doggish to English by Grok AI

Posted by: Miss Dixie at May 05, 2025 01:59 AM (LP6Fv)

539
528 Is the Reformation over yet? Just asking...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
................................
Yes. Catholics still haven't gotten over it.

(Ducks behind couch)

😁 Never!! Reformation forever - (we always need reforming)

*Throws shoe behind the couch*

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:59 AM (PcTds)

540 Doggish to English by Grok AI

Impressed, Grok is good.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 02:01 AM (PcTds)

541 I thought it was sad, that Dad's only brother wouldn't be Dad's best man at his & Mom's (prod) wedding, because he (uncle) didn't get *dispensation to do so* from his parish priest.

I find this sad too. As was said above. The things that unite us are greater than the issues that divide us.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 02:03 AM (PcTds)

542 There's my three in a row 😔

Good night

Peace

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 02:05 AM (PcTds)

543 I know it's not everyone's cup of tea so thanks for indulging us.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:57 AM (PcTds)


My favorite family religious discussion goes back years.

Born again Baptist S-i-L hinted/told the side of the family that were Catholics that Catholics aren't Christian. They have statues, crucifixes, saint and Mary adoration, all not Christian.

We stopped having religious discussions in the family. We'll go to funerals and weddings, but that's it.

Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 02:06 AM (gKDq2)

544 Ok, so I’m teaching graduate level ideas to people taking 101 Physics is Fun! But I think my idea about time-like loops and prayer is correct, and it has profound theological implications. I could probably get thrown out of my church for advocating for it, especially since no one there would understand what I am talking about. My pastor within this year referred to the largish string musical instrument that the choir director’s husband played as a “sello”. The choir director laughed, very quickly, and the pastor took it with good humor: he knows he doesn’t know much beyond his area of expertise - just being a Bible believing evangelical Presbyterian minister is all he’s concentrated on. So I don’t go on about time-like loops to anyone at church, or their theological implications - no one would be able to understand. We even have people who believe that the speed of light is not constant, but depends if light is radially directed outward or inward to the Earth. Oh well, I’m going to bed. Good night!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 02:08 AM (6nn2F)

545 Yes. Catholics still haven't gotten over it.

(Ducks behind couch)

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at May 05, 2025 01:59 AM (PcTds)


Sure we have, Heathen. Plus, we cornered the Bingo And Booze market.

Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 02:08 AM (gKDq2)

546 Dad was hurt. Thought it was petty, and I agree. Blame the priest who withheld dispensation? I dunno.

Too complicated, IMO.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 02:09 AM (rdVOm)

547 Piper! Everything's so pretty! Thank you.

Posted by: m at May 05, 2025 02:11 AM (CQE5S)

548 Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 01:44 AM (a4NoL

You may do and say whatever you please, dearest lady. This ol' Protestant loves hearing you, and everyone else, speak so lovingly about your faith. We are Christians, united in our belief in Almighty God.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 02:15 AM (Vvh2V)

549 Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 05, 2025 02:08 AM (6nn2F)

Thank you, that was awesome! Sleep good. 😊

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at May 05, 2025 02:17 AM (Vvh2V)

550 Walking into St Patrick’s Cathedral in NYC was pretty cool and reflective until I heard the cash register at the gift store . I immediately wondered if the money changers and Jesus story was just lost on the Church.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 05, 2025 02:19 AM (VofaG)

551 401 So, we determined that the local solid waste transfer facility is.... the Tug Bar. Called to find out what the hours are, because we are still cleaning out the crap that the last owner of this place left behind. The woman who answered the phone (at 8:00 on a Sunday evening) was a little confused when DH asked what the hours are for the solid waste disposal facility. We thought we would get a recording, but no. She said, oh yeah, that's she is, and the are open until probably nine tonight. So DH asked to be certain, you mean the place by the Tug Bar. She said, we are the Tug Bar, and we handle the cash for the solid waste site.

Huh.

Alaska is a strange place.

The Tug Bar is awesome, good food, crusty locals, great drinks, just our kind of vibe. They have live music outdoors on Saturdays, shooting every second Sunday and sometimes on Saturdays as well, and if you get too drunk to drive they can rent you a crappy room out back to sleep it off. Most folks take the 4-wheeler so they don't have to drive on the road.

It's a mile from our place. We chose... wisely.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 12:27 AM (a4NoL)

What a great story!

Posted by: m at May 05, 2025 02:22 AM (CQE5S)

552 Sure we have, Heathen. Plus, we cornered the Bingo And Booze market.
Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 02:08 AM (gKDq2)

DH, who was nominally Lutheran when we met, was amazed when we went to a funeral followed by beer in the church basement at my Catholic parish. "You guys have beer? Where have I been all my life!" That wasn't what made him convert, but it was one of the things.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 02:26 AM (a4NoL)

553 DH, who was nominally Lutheran when we met, was amazed when we went to a funeral followed by beer in the church basement at my Catholic parish. "You guys have beer? Where have I been all my life!" That wasn't what made him convert, but it was one of the things.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 05, 2025 02:26 AM (a4NoL)


I went my only time to the KofC Hall (after I got some insurance policy). Cash bar. I never paid. I remember my Dad telling the bartender at one point to cut me off, then when my Dad left to go talk with someone, he'd ask, 'Another, Kid?' Don't remember much of that night.

Posted by: RickZ at May 05, 2025 02:47 AM (gKDq2)

554 Really interesting discussion tonight, respectful for the most part.

{{{JQ}}} You wear that outfit while dispensing drinks at the club next Saturday and you will make bank!!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2025 02:48 AM (0nHVk)

555 LOL, {{{Debby}}}!

Yeah, it turned more than a few heads back in the day...

The heels would kill me now, though. I can barely walk steadily in low-heel pumps.

And-- my sexy leather pants were stolen.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 03:00 AM (rdVOm)

556
''Sure am glad I missed the theological warfare.''

I'm not so sure. Protestants? Catholics? According to the by-laws we should have launched a cavalry charge 2 hours ago.

Posted by: Fen at May 05, 2025 03:01 AM (ciYHQ)

557
Reading over the above confirms my inclination to never, ever, never ever, never engage in denominational/sectarian discussions, especially among friends and family. Nothing good ever comes out of that in my experience. May not get bad, but never really good. :-)

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at May 05, 2025 03:03 AM (w6EFb)

558 I can't really do high heels anymore either, I'm afraid I'll break an ankle.

I am off to sleep and I shall think good thoughts.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 05, 2025 03:05 AM (0nHVk)

559 >>Nothing good ever comes out of that in my experience.

You got that right, publius! It's just trouble.

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 03:06 AM (rdVOm)

560 According to the by-laws we should have launched a cavalry charge 2 hours ago.

Posted by: Fen at May 05, 2025 03:01
=====
See 396

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2025 03:07 AM (XeU6L)

561 'Night, Debby.

Time for me, too.

'Night, horde!

Posted by: JQ at May 05, 2025 03:07 AM (rdVOm)

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