Economic News, or We're All Going to Die!!!! Or Not. I'm not a Psychic.

April 2, 2025 was Liberation Day, the day that Trump's tariff offensive against the world started. Absent any real numbers, the press focused on the stock market's reaction as proof that it was a bad and destructive thing. Well...

There goes that narrative. Stocks are now back to where they were on April 2 one month later.

Are stocks the economy? No. It's somewhere between investment, speculation, and gambling, and the more time goes on, the more I think it's closer to gambling than anything else. What else is there?

Well, how about this? The below is the 2-year bond yield on US Treasuries over the last three months.

This is important because the 2-year bonds are the main vehicle of financing US debt, and it's lost 50 basis points since Trump took office. The US has a current debt of nearly $37 trillion. 50 basis points saved on that matters when refinancing bonds and directly affecting the amount of interest payments. We're currently at a point where interest payments on debt are probably going to be more than $1 trillion a year. That's more than the DOD's entire budget of about $850 billion.

Shaving down interest rates has an outsized effect on our deficit, and it's why Trump has been so vocal against Fed Chair Powell, an officer who reports to Secretary of the Treasury, Bessent. (Tangentially, Trump does have the power to fire Powell. It's a minor theme of the employment lawsuits going around right now.) The Fed directs interest rates, and the Fed's rates are well out of alignment with market rates, indicating a necessary cut (you know, what Powell rushed to do in October of last year in order to try and help Kamala Harris win the presidency).

Okay, but what else? Who cares about interest rates? I don't really care, even though I know I should. How about this:

There it is:
Native-born workers: +1.04 million
Foreign-born workers: -410,000 pic.twitter.com/SkHM1GnTgN
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) May 2, 2025

One of the lesser talked about parts of the Biden economy was the growth of jobs at the expense of people who were born here in favor of those who weren't. You can see that in the graph where the red line (foreign workers) was consistently above the growth of the green line (native workers), but this last month saw a sharp change, news brought about by the 177,000 April employment numbers.

There is no one number that can indicate the strength of the economy, but the GDP numbers for Q1 (when you actually look under the baseline -.3%) was actually pretty good, employment seems to be moving in the right direction, and bond yields seem to indicate better management of federal debt.

We are just over 100 days into Trump's presidency. He walked in with what he saw as a mandate to shake things up. We've gotten a lot of noise about how it's all bad, but...all I'm really seeing is signs of hope.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at 04:15 PM

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1 It's almost like a lot of people are just making shit up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 02, 2025 04:17 PM (uWKK8)

2 Tangentially, Trump does have the power to fire Powell

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NO HE DOES NOT

-Judge Boasberg

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 02, 2025 04:17 PM (wgbpW)

3 Hola p

Posted by: Thanatopsis at May 02, 2025 04:19 PM (GYt5+)

4 >>>You can see that in the graph where the red line (foreign workers) was consistently above the growth of the green line (native workers)

"They're just doing the jobs Americans won't do" or some other racist and meaningless platitude the media repeats constantly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 04:20 PM (uCjyK)

5
We are a land without hope unless we get "Just a Maryland Dad" back.

-- leftist numpties

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 02, 2025 04:21 PM (Tv15w)

6 My portfolio was up almost $13K today.

*buffs nails on shirt*

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (Q4IgG)

7 Bessent is rapidly becoming my favorite of Trump's cabinet choices.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (viF8m)

8 Stock market is speculation on the future.

Posted by: dantesed at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (qm5Wv)

9 8 Stock market is speculation on the future.
Posted by: dantesed at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (qm5Wv)

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The stock market is a casino run by degenerate gamblers who drive traffic by using algorithms that they've designed to act like degenerate gamblers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

10 I hear a lot of the science administrators moan about how they have to use H1B to get researchers because the U.S. doesn't do science. Oddly they never seem to think this might be related to the education policies their beloved D's have controlled for 3-4 decades or so.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 04:23 PM (bP/i4)

11 OTOH, Jim Cramer now says there's no chance of a recession.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (NwfFc)

12 I'm starting to see where the Democrats are coming from wrt Trump. He hasn't helped me at all. Yesterday I had to mow and trim the lawns and Trump was nowhere to be found. Then I had to make dinner and was out of some ingredients and of course, Trump - AGAIN - was nowhere to be found to help out.

Useless bastard. I'm voting Democrat from now on.

(I don't akshully need to do the slash thingy with an S do I?)

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (F5Hzk)

13 I think the fact that things are not booming and there are some negative economic factors is why Trump is calling this "still the Biden economy" and its hard for the press to really fight that narrative.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (2VST1)

14 11 OTOH, Jim Cramer now says there's no chance of a recession.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (NwfFc)

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Well...shit.

We now are all going to die.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (GBKbO)

15 You know who else wanted a stronger economy...

Posted by: Oh yeah. That's right. at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (TbWk/)

16 OTOH, Jim Cramer now says there's no chance of a recession.

FUCK.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:25 PM (Vnr18)

17 15 You know who else wanted a stronger economy...
Posted by: Oh yeah. That's right. at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (TbWk/)

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I'm pretty sure it's a major plot thread in Hamlet 2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

18
Bessent is rapidly becoming my favorite of Trump's cabinet choices.
Posted by: JackStraw

I am struck by how accomplished many of them are and how PDJT turns them loose on the presstitutes because he and they are of one mind as to what needs to be done and why.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 02, 2025 04:25 PM (Tv15w)

19 Stock market is speculation on the future.
Posted by: dantesed
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At some level, everything we do is speculation on the future.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (UBKzV)

20 My portfolio was up almost $13K today.

*buffs nails on shirt*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (Q4IgG)
***

*rolls down window*
I say, do you have any grey poupon?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (W/lyH)

21 Is there a "set hair on fire" chart with color codes.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (FhXTo)

22 Trump: Eff those losers on Rushmore! I want my own mountain!

Posted by: Jmel at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (bVhJi)

23 Of course we're going to have a recession. MSM will say, "Oops, we made a mistake during the Biden Administration and we're now correcting the problem so we have true numbers for the Trump administration.

MSM, always trying to help, right?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (tT6L1)

24 goodness, WE HAVE GRAPHS!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (g47mK)

25 Economic News, or We're All Going to Die!!!!

I miss Monty. I wonder what his take on the Trump economy would be.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (77rzZ)

26 24 goodness, WE HAVE GRAPHS!
Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (g47mK)

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I almost did some maths, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

27 Call me a Trump fanboi, but I have some confidence in his economic stewardship. A lot more confidence than I have had for any of his predecessors.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (YqDXo)

28 Just bomb the ball bearing factories.

Posted by: Colonel Hogan at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (YvSrC)

29 All I know is that if Final Gambit (30-1) doesn't win tomorrow I will lose my shirt and it will be my final gambit.

Posted by: On Borrowed Time at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (G5+As)

30 One other thing to remember, the nominal stock market gains during the Biden years where ephemeral.

If you weren't making >10% you were losing money because of Bidenflation.

Now that Trump has conquered Bidenflation gains are REAL, as in if you get a 10% gain you'd really gained 10%.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (t0Rmr)

31 Stock market is speculation ~~on the future~~.

there, I think that is better!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (g47mK)

32 Okay Jay. You are a Trump fanboi. AND SO AM I!!!

Heh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (F5Hzk)

33 Economics is hard and boring. Can we do another Hitler thread instead?

Posted by: Martin Tell at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (sFNX2)

34 Jim Cramer couldn't find his way out of a room with the lights on.

Posted by: dantesed at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (qm5Wv)

35 26 24 goodness, WE HAVE GRAPHS!
Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (g47mK)

I prefer Venn diagrams, myself.

Posted by: Former VP at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (G5+As)

36 Red graphs are much scarier than green ones.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (Vnr18)

37 One other thing to remember, the nominal stock market gains during the Biden years where ephemeral.

If you weren't making >10% you were losing money because of Bidenflation.
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True. Stock prices also rose dramatically because (I've read) European money fled to the US for better investment opportunities.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (YqDXo)

38 33 Economics is hard and boring. Can we do another Hitler thread instead?
Posted by: Martin Tell at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (sFNX2)

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I wrote a post about Administrative Law, too!

We'll see if it goes up.

Ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

39 Trump: Eff those losers on Rushmore! I want my own mountain!
Posted by: Jmel at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (bVhJi)

Well Crazy Horse has his own mountain. - Its actually a cool thing. Funded by donations. It's also been a very slow process, who knows if they'll ever get his horse 'carved' into the mountain.

Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (bP/i4)

40 Afternoon, all,

I did see $3.94 for a dozen eggs at Aldi yesterday. That's down from $4.94 or so a week back. So, there's that.

When I hit Walmart this weekend or Monday, I'l see how much a half-dozen goes for. Last time was $2.86.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 04:30 PM (omVj0)

41 33 Economics is hard and boring. Can we do another Hitler thread instead?
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You know who brought inflation down in Germany, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:30 PM (pZ64F)

42 This is why Churchill invaded Dunkirk.

Posted by: Colonel Hogan at May 02, 2025 04:30 PM (YvSrC)

43 I almost did some maths, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 02, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

wild and crrrrrazy guy!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 04:30 PM (g47mK)

44 Biden's people killed 10s of millions of hens. Trump fired them shortly after being inaugurated (had to have them dragged out in fact)

It does take a little while to replace that.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 04:31 PM (t0Rmr)

45 > My portfolio was up almost $13K today.

*buffs nails on shirt*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (Q4IgG)
***

*rolls down window*
I say, do you have any grey poupon?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (W/lyH)
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It's in the fridge. Help youself.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 04:31 PM (Q4IgG)

46 My portfolio was up almost $13K today.

*buffs nails on shirt*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025

***
"Tell me, Mr. Maverick, is this your first time on the riverboat?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 04:31 PM (omVj0)

47 I just checked my retirement benefits. It was on a slight downward trend, but has since rebounded in the past couple of weeks...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 02, 2025 04:31 PM (7fElN)

48 Biden's people killed 10s of millions of hens.

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Did he promote the cops who gassed Peanut to lead this heroic effort?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2025 04:32 PM (BI5O2)

49 It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.

Posted by: Hall of Famer Yogi Berra at May 02, 2025 04:32 PM (G5+As)

50 Slave labor usually brings inflation down, and makes trains run on time!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 04:32 PM (g47mK)

51 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (pZ64F)

52 Mr. Madison, being under 40, you can't really be expected to have a clue, as you so apparently don't.

So let us give you the only one you need:

#OrangeManBad

Posted by: Denizens of Democratic Underground at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (0sNs1)

53 Predicting the past is much easier.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (Vnr18)

54 Since "markets" anticipate, it might make sense to look back to February when SnP hit 6147.

April 1 its high was 5650, from which it dropped for several days to a low of 4835. It is now back above the 50 day moving average, but still below the 200 day moving average.

I could move back to the crazy "buy every dip, stocks always go up over time" attitude that has been dominant since 1990 or so, but there are still some headwinds. Hopefully things work out well for American workers ... it could happen.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (Cus5s)

55 >>I am struck by how accomplished many of them are and how PDJT turns them loose on the presstitutes because he and they are of one mind as to what needs to be done and why.

It seems that all of his cabinet choices are very astute at working the media. Bessent's calm demeanor really works off Trump's less than shy and retiring style.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (viF8m)

56 Trump: Eff those losers on Rushmore! I want my own mountain!
Posted by: Jmel at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (bVhJi)
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Musk: Olympus Mons or bust!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (7fElN)

57 It's time we prepare a suitable memorial for former President Biden. We should create a sculpture of his face on the top of Mt. St. Helens. It will get blown apart the next time it erupts.

Or is that tempting fate....

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (VNX3d)

58 Biden's people killed 10s of millions of hens. Trump fired them shortly after being inaugurated (had to have them dragged out in fact)
_________________

The won ton who ordered the mass slaughter of hens had to be literally physically dragged out of her office when she was fired.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (YqDXo)

59 X is ablaze with mentally defective fuckneeny twinks claiming Trump LIIIIIIIIIIIIED about gas being below $1.98 in some places

I checked the map, it looks like those type of prices, $2.14 or lower are concentrated in Texas and neighboring states

Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (HYKHz)

60 Its a constant refrain that even the smallest effort to not massively screw up makes the economy grow by leaps and bounds, Reagan, even post first midterm Clinton, Trump 1 and Trump 2 in 100 days.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (8avO+)

61 I wrote a post about Administrative Law, too!

We'll see if it goes up.

Ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

That was actually one of my favorite classes when I was in my paralegal-certification course. Female prof. The rest of the class hated her, but I was her teacher's pet for some reason. Maybe because I was interested in the subject. Learned about the Chevron Doctrine in that class.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (77rzZ)

62 My portfolio was up almost $13K today.

*buffs nails on shirt*
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025

It os about your percentage, elon musk would be suicidal with a 13,000 day

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (I1y9+)

63 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (pZ64F)

Was it more or less than what you expected?

Posted by: dantesed at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (qm5Wv)

64 @EricLDaugh
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32m
🚨 JUST IN: S&P500 hits longest winning streak in 20 years after closing green again - CNBC

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (viF8m)

65 It's time we prepare a suitable memorial for former President Biden. We should create a sculpture of his face on the top of Mt. St. Helens. It will get blown apart the next time it erupts.
_________________

What's wrong with the Joe Biden Memorial Sewage Treatment Plant? Right next to the Bill Clinton Home for Wayward Girls.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:35 PM (YqDXo)

66 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.
Posted by: Pudinhead

I thought you were still working?

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)

67 >>Predicting the past is much easier.

Just ask Hitler.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:35 PM (viF8m)

68 JUST IN: S&P500 hits longest winning streak in 20 years after closing green again - CNBC

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:34 PM (viF8m)
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Damn that Trump! He's wrecking the country!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

69 Which track do they run the S&P 500 at?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:36 PM (Vnr18)

70 LOL, that clip from CNN with Van Jones, talking to some black Democrat Trump voters:

VJ: Don't you care that Trump is [same ginned-up supposedly racist thing]?
Man: I mean, I do care. But I care more about the price of eggs, about being able to take care of my family.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 04:36 PM (NwfFc)

71 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.
Posted by: Pudinhead

Germany has to be about done giving checks to you guys

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:36 PM (I1y9+)

72 Remember that the 2 yr Treasury is the most recent method of offlaying debt.
There used to be a good mix of 30 yr, 20 yr and 10 yr. plus T-bills.
We had very low rates, and the Biteme admin sold little or no 30 yr instruments.
Almost as if they wanted to hurt us, yeah?

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:36 PM (cPGH3)

73 I wonder what the % under 40 actually is here. 10? Maybe 20?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 02, 2025 04:36 PM (UBKzV)

74 >>> 12 I'm starting to see where the Democrats are coming from wrt Trump. He hasn't helped me at all. Yesterday I had to mow and trim the lawns and Trump was nowhere to be found. Then I had to make dinner and was out of some ingredients and of course, Trump - AGAIN - was nowhere to be found to help out.

Useless bastard. I'm voting Democrat from now on.

(I don't akshully need to do the slash thingy with an S do I?)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (F5Hzk)

That fcker isn't around when it's time to feed and water my critters, either.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 02, 2025 04:37 PM (Vqx30)

75 LOL, that clip from CNN with Van Jones, talking to some black Democrat Trump voters

Yeah that did not turn out at all like they had hoped. Especially Van. And this is the flaw with their approach. If you constantly call everything and everyone racist... what difference does it make who you vote for? Yeah okay he's racist... and so is everyone else. What else is new?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 04:37 PM (2VST1)

76 Mighty brave to post a math thread at four in the afternoon on a Friday. Do you you schedule 4:40 meetings too?

Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at May 02, 2025 04:37 PM (3wNhr)

77 Phyllis Fong, eh?

Lemme guess... She said they could make up for the chicken shortfall with cats and dogs, while providing full employment for our new arrivals from Haiti.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2025 04:38 PM (BI5O2)

78 what the % under 40 actually is here. 10? Maybe 20?

With wistful gaze the hq stares at Japan's population #s

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:38 PM (I1y9+)

79 63 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (pZ64F)

Was it more or less than what you expected?
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Haven't got it yet. Its gross $4k+/mo. I suppose I have to pay taxes on it. So, just waiting to see what the net is to figure cash flow for the house/family.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:38 PM (pZ64F)

80 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (pZ64F

I got my first pension check yesterday. Still working full-time so I need to invest it. I hear tulip bulbs are a pretty good investment.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 02, 2025 04:38 PM (dJimA)

81 The price of gold is dropping, everything is going to be OK. When people start panicking about the economy and the strength of the dollar they turn to precious metals, gold and silver. When people are feeling OK about the economy they start selling their precious metals, that is happening now.

Gold spot price has dropped over $200 an ounce in the last two weeks.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (e5NfL)

82 I’m looking forward to seeing how many new manufacturing facilities are built this year.

Posted by: H at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (9XdxT)

83 I am struck by how accomplished many of them are and how PDJT turns them loose on the presstitutes because he and they are of one mind as to what needs to be done and why.

It seems that all of his cabinet choices are very astute at working the media. Bessent's calm demeanor really works off Trump's less than shy and retiring style.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (viF8m)

Most of the actors in the new generation are like that. They don't remember the press pretending to be fair. Thats grandpa talk, and he's in a home.

There's a new guy Nuxanor, posting behind a blue skinned cartoon avatar on YT, thrashing various targets measuring what percent X is totally screwed. He's hilarious and actually gives facts and reasoning. Does a good Trump imitation, and he's pro Trump. Its funny when he stops a clip, does a riff on Trump responding and Trump uses his exact riff too.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (8avO+)

84 >>> 44 Biden's people killed 10s of millions of hens. Trump fired them shortly after being inaugurated (had to have them dragged out in fact)

It does take a little while to replace that.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 04:31 PM (t0Rmr)

Bluebell the hen demands revenge!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (Vqx30)

85 It's time we prepare a suitable memorial for former President Biden.
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On the one hand, there are plenty of garbage dumps.

On the other, garbage dumps are useful.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (NwfFc)

86 Predicting the past is much easier.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (Vnr1

_________________

Ask any climate "scientist." Climastrologist?

I love it when they say that their models would have predicted the climate of the past.

Of course the models would do that, you nitwits. You parameterized the models on the historical data. It'd be a pretty sorry lookout if they didn't reproduce the historical data now, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (YqDXo)

87 I wonder what the % under 40 actually is here. 10? Maybe 20?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

If you count mental age, Sid is about 5 1/2.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

88 I got my first pension check yesterday. Still working full-time so I need to invest it. I hear tulip bulbs are a pretty good investment.
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Go long Solar Energy.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (pZ64F)

89 51 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.

Was is from the Wehrmacht or was it delivered Luftwaffe mail?

Posted by: Martin Tell at May 02, 2025 04:40 PM (sFNX2)

90 "Shaving down interest rates has an outsized effect on our deficit, and it's why Trump has been so vocal against Fed Chair Powell, an officer who reports to Secretary of the Treasury, Bessent. (Tangentially, Trump does have the power to fire Powell. It's a minor theme of the employment lawsuits going around right now.)"

The modern Fed has two mandates: 2% economic growth (arbitrary, yet consensus decided) and 'full' employment. While the MSM states that the Fed isn't political, these are clearly political goals - especially in light of the fact that everyone votes here in the USA, not just white male property-owners. Interest rates affect the cost and value of capital, as well as employment capacities. Trump certainly isn't the first to pressure the Fed (LBJ did it more overtly, and FDR literally controlled the Fed during the Great Depression), and he won't be the last.

Besides, Trump has been right about where interest rates needed to go for the entire time he was POTUS. In 2018, IIRC, CNBC and others pressured Powell to raise rates when Trump wanted them lowered - to show his independence. He did, then quickly reversed course when the marked crapped out. Womp womp.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 02, 2025 04:40 PM (tbmfU)

91 My Ford Fusion lost its transmission, and a new one costs $8500, so I'm in the market for a new car. I went to the dealerships today (not Ford) and looked at an Acura TLX, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, and a couple of SUVs. To my surprise, the Accord and Camry are now almost exclusively available with a hybrid.

I contemplated why they would do something so stupid, and then it dawned on me; they have to to meet Biden's CAFE standards for the fleet. Screw what the customer actually wants, we in the government will decide what's good for you.

I was so angry I'm now looking at a Ridgeline and an SUV, and have almost given up on my preferred option: a sedan.

Please, Donald Trump, revoke CAFE and tell these little worms to get bent.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (s8j++)

92 Who gets the interest check? The one trill?

Posted by: Francis at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (bbuBP)

93 The US Government collected more than $17.4B in custom duties and certain excise taxes during the month of April.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (rj6Yv)

94 Mighty brave to post a math thread at four in the afternoon on a Friday. Do you you schedule 4:40 meetings too?
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile

Well, at his company he's CAO (Chief Asshoe Officer). So, probably.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (77rzZ)

95 Honest to God, how would our worst enemies acted any differently than the Biden ninconpoops?

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (cPGH3)

96 Go long Solar Energy

And don't forget to tilt at windmills.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (Vnr18)

97 12 I'm starting to see where the Democrats are coming from wrt Trump. He hasn't helped me at all. Yesterday I had to mow and trim the lawns and Trump was nowhere to be found. Then I had to make dinner and was out of some ingredients and of course, Trump - AGAIN - was nowhere to be found to help out.

There is a non zero chance if you did make that call to Trump, Trump would have done something, or sent Melania or a younger Trump over for the hell of it. Barron has been bred to reach those dishes on the high shelf for you.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:42 PM (8avO+)

98 When we quit shoveling tax money to Bolsheviks, doesn't the GDP show that as a loss?

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:42 PM (jc0TO)

99 Yellen really screwed the country by throwing all of that short term paper. There are trillions to refinance over the next several months.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 02, 2025 04:42 PM (XL8xg)

100 89 51 Heh, I get my first SS Check this month. Totes excited.

Was is from the Wehrmacht or was it delivered Luftwaffe mail?
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The SS have their own ways of communicating.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:42 PM (pZ64F)

101 Use cars.com to search dealer inventories for the options you want. Honda still makes plenty of non hybrid accords. Might be that dealer pushing what they have in stock.

Posted by: brak at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (vfVcm)

102 You pay taxes when you work. You pay taxes to SS. Then when/if you get SS you pay taxes on that.

And you used that taxed money to pay taxes on your purchases. And that taxed money to pay your real estate taxes on property you used taxed money to pay taxes.

And on and on and on

Posted by: 18-1 at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (t0Rmr)

103 When people start panicking about the economy and the strength of the dollar they turn to precious metals, gold and silver. When people are feeling OK about the economy they start selling their precious metals, that is happening now.

Gold spot price has dropped over $200 an ounce in the last two weeks.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (e5NfL)

PRC political elites have been buying Gold-related ETFs and bullion like crazy since Liberation Day.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (rj6Yv)

104 One thing I've never understood about non-dividend stocks:

What's the point in owning them? Their value only increases if other people buy them, but why are they buying except to hope that others will buy too?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (KbCG3)

105 That fcker isn't around when it's time to feed and water my critters, either.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 02, 2025 04:37 PM (Vqx30)
________________

I have to dig up and repair a sprinkler pipe that has struck a leak. WTF is Trump now?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (YqDXo)

106 Mighty brave to post a math thread at four in the afternoon on a Friday. Do you you schedule 4:40 meetings too?
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile

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Capital GAINZZZZZ!

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (Vyll1)

107 Architects just buy a low mileage used ICE Camry. Be happy pay less.

Posted by: torabora at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (Oohrt)

108 Honest to God, how would our worst enemies acted any differently than the Biden ninconpoops?
Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (cPGH3)

Our worst enemies are smarter. Who would have thought the best way to get to China was by attacking Russia via the Ukraine with Nazi allies?

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (8avO+)

109 55 >>I am struck by how accomplished many of them are and how PDJT turns them loose on the presstitutes because he and they are of one mind as to what needs to be done and why.

It seems that all of his cabinet choices are very astute at working the media. Bessent's calm demeanor really works off Trump's less than shy and retiring style.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM (viF8m)

Lutnick's interview with the All-In crew is very instructive in this regard. According to him, the major factor that decided who was picked among the finalists was their ability to communicate in front of a camera. Their screening room had eight huge screens that showed snippets of interviews each on did with the media, and the eventual pick was always the one who presented best. Trump required this level of competency from his people.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (tbmfU)

110 It's time we prepare a suitable memorial for former President Biden.
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On the one hand, there are plenty of garbage dumps.

On the other, garbage dumps are useful.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 04:39 PM (NwfFc)

We could send a bunch of Democrats to sculpt it in a garbage dump in Puerto Rico.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (VNX3d)

111 Are we refilling the SPR? Or do we have to get a Congressional appropriation for that?

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

112 Darned autocucumber...

Posted by: torabora at May 02, 2025 04:44 PM (Oohrt)

113 Honest to God, how would our worst enemies acted any differently than the Biden ninconpoops?

They would have been more honest

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:44 PM (I1y9+)

114 111 Are we refilling the SPR? Or do we have to get a Congressional appropriation for that?
Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

I read that it's being done.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 02, 2025 04:45 PM (uWKK8)

115 Chyna purchased gold to an all time high and then sold 5% of it in a week.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 04:45 PM (Vnr18)

116 >>My Ford Fusion lost its transmission, and a new one costs $8500, so I'm in the market for a new car.

Ice-T done tried to warn you but did you listen?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:45 PM (viF8m)

117 Are we refilling the SPR? Or do we have to get a Congressional appropriation for that?
Posted by: toby928

I heard that we are. But don't know.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:45 PM (77rzZ)

118 One thing I've never understood about non-dividend stocks:

What's the point in owning them? Their value only increases if other people buy them, but why are they buying except to hope that others will buy too?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (KbCG3)

If the real (ok realish) value goes up enough the company may split the stock to make one share a reasonable cost. Then you get your investment doubled for free, without dividends.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (8avO+)

119 Where do I have to apply to be the guy who drags federal shitstains from their offices? I'll work for 25% under the prevailing wage if I'm allowed full discretionary use of a very powerful stun baton.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (BI5O2)

120 Use cars.com to search dealer inventories for the options you want. Honda still makes plenty of non hybrid accords. Might be that dealer pushing what they have in stock.

Thanks for the tip. AI Google says >50% are now hybrids, but that was virtually all that was available at the dealership to which I went. The Camrys are ALL hybrids.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (s8j++)

121 So, have they stopped minting pennies yet? Any word on what they're going to do about the ones still in circulation?

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (77rzZ)

122 Bessent is rapidly becoming my favorite of Trump's cabinet choices.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:22 PM (viF8m)

Second, after Rubio.

Posted by: Ann at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (4neFu)

123 Are we refilling the SPR? Or do we have to get a Congressional appropriation for that?
Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

Last I heard, we were refilling it.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (rj6Yv)

124 116 >>My Ford Fusion lost its transmission, and a new one costs $8500, so I'm in the market for a new car.

Ice-T done tried to warn you but did you listen?
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at May 02, 2025 04:47 PM (pZ64F)

125 Trump gives new meaning to "Bull in China Shop!"

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 04:47 PM (D9BsV)

126 >>> 119 Where do I have to apply to be the guy who drags federal shitstains from their offices? I'll work for 25% under the prevailing wage if I'm allowed full discretionary use of a very powerful stun baton.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (BI5O2)

I haven't seen Danger Girl for a very long time, maybe she would lend you her 1.2Gw Sanity Prod.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 02, 2025 04:48 PM (Vqx30)

127 >>Are we refilling the SPR? Or do we have to get a Congressional appropriation for that?
Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

>>I read that it's being done.

True story. Biden drained the SPR so fast and recklessly he damaged the storage system. It has to be rebuilt before it can be completely refilled.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:48 PM (viF8m)

128 11 OTOH, Jim Cramer now says there's no chance of a recession.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 02, 2025 04:24 PM (NwfFc)

Goddamit it, time to sell everything and set my hair on fire.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 04:48 PM (uCjyK)

129 LA Times ...firewall...reporting High Speed Train financial crash. Might take 20 more years.

This should destroy Democrats in California.
But they will blame Republicans like they do for all of California problems.

I'm just surprised LA Times reporting this.

Posted by: torabora at May 02, 2025 04:48 PM (Oohrt)

130
I would consider a Tesla. Wouldn't have said that 6 months ago.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:49 PM (hJphV)

131 I was so angry I'm now looking at a Ridgeline and an SUV, and have almost given up on my preferred option: a sedan.

Please, Donald Trump, revoke CAFE and tell these little worms to get bent.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (s8j++)

Think I saw a mention of Trump suing some state about banning regular cars in 2035. Probably CA.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:49 PM (8avO+)

132 Economic News, or We're All Going to Die!!!!

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I'm going to miss you guys.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 02, 2025 04:49 PM (2UnvF)

133 Bloomberg Law News 4/28/2025:

The US is refilling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and will continue to fill it while he’s in office, US Energy Secretary Chris Wright says on CNBC.

Only two of the four major salt caverns can be filled because of repair work, Wright says
Wright says he is asking Congress for funding to help fill reserve faster
Wright calls pace of draining under Biden Administration “an irresponsible action” undertaken for electoral reasons
“It was drained so fast, it did some damage to the facilities,” Wright says

To contact the reporter on this story:
Maggie Eastland in New York at meastland@bloomberg.net

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 04:49 PM (rj6Yv)

134 Where do I have to apply to be the guy who drags federal shitstains from their offices? I'll work for 25% under the prevailing wage if I'm allowed full discretionary use of a very powerful stun baton.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (BI5O2)

Do you get to shove them on a flat moving cart first? A few are jumbo-sized, and not worth getting injured pulling out feet first. A cart would remove the fun of taking them down stairs, though.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 04:49 PM (VNX3d)

135 My Ford Fusion lost its transmission, and a new one costs $8500, so I'm in the market for a new car.

Ice-T done tried to warn you but did you listen?

I don't get it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (s8j++)

136 We don't need an SPR, we need about 6 new refineries, strategically situated around the Continental US of A.

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (cPGH3)

137 LA Times ...firewall...reporting High Speed Train financial crash. Might take 20 more years.

This should destroy Democrats in California.
But they will blame Republicans like they do for all of California problems.
_________________

Both of them!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (YqDXo)

138 Not worried in the least.

I died from Popcorn Lung during Trump's first term.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (Ruu2t)

139 I would consider a Tesla. Wouldn't have said that 6 months ago.
Posted by: Soothsayer

Texas is overrun with teslas and the full self driving is fantastic, door to door no driver needed

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (I1y9+)

140 Are we refilling the SPR? Or do we have to get a Congressional appropriation for that?
Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM (jc0TO)

Last I heard, we were refilling it.
Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 04:46 PM (rj6Yv)

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"Elon Musk has been draining every non-Electric Vehicle in the Feral Government Fleet of gasoline to do so! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!"

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (D9BsV)

141 R. I. P. Ruth Buzzi. I didn't see that yesterday.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (vs3rY)

142 I was so angry I'm now looking at a Ridgeline and an SUV, and have almost given up on my preferred option: a sedan.

Please, Donald Trump, revoke CAFE and tell these little worms to get bent.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (s8j++)

I'd prefer a Hybrid, actually. It seems like the simple and sane low gas usage model that takes real world into account and I never heard of the fire problems much with the gas first types.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)

143 131 I was so angry I'm now looking at a Ridgeline and an SUV, and have almost given up on my preferred option: a sedan.

Please, Donald Trump, revoke CAFE and tell these little worms to get bent.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (s8j++)

Think I saw a mention of Trump suing some state about banning regular cars in 2035. Probably CA.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:49 PM (8avO+)

Yeah, unless he got CA under control whatever else he does with CAFE will be for naught. CA, as the largest car market in America, drives the bus on standards for the industry. CAFE just cosigns on what CA does.j

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 02, 2025 04:51 PM (tbmfU)

144 True story. Biden drained the SPR so fast and recklessly he damaged the storage system. It has to be rebuilt before it can be completely refilled.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:48 PM (viF8m)

I didn't know that. If we had a media worth the cost of the rope to hang them we would know that. If a Republican had done that people living under bridges would know that.

You can't hate the media enough.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 02, 2025 04:51 PM (F5Hzk)

145 Has Congress put up a firewall between the Executive Branch and the sweet nectar of SPR?

NAH. Congress is chasing interns to bang on camera in every closet on the Hill.

Posted by: torabora at May 02, 2025 04:51 PM (Oohrt)

146
btw, I saw there's supposebly a new American car company taking pre-orders for their new very *basic* plain-jane electric pickup truck. It's called SLATE.

Obviously a play on tesla.

I think the whole thing is a Hoax, though. An elaborate AI-generated hoax.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (hJphV)

147 We don't need an SPR, we need about 6 new refineries, strategically situated around the Continental US of A.
Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM

Hardened against drone attack, if that's possible.

I fully expect one of our adversaries to go after our energy infrastructure with drones soon.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (jc0TO)

148 We don't need an SPR, we need about 6 new refineries, strategically situated around the Continental US of A.

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (cPGH3)
______________

In the latest news from the People's Republic, Newsom is talking about building / expropriating a petroleum refinery in California, to be run by the state, because reasons. A commie wet dream of having the state run everything.

Yet another train wreck in the making.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

149 In the market for a Kubelwagen. Cars.com had no listings for me to peruse.

Posted by: General Burkhalter at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (G5+As)

150 >>I don't get it.

And that's why you are looking for a new car. Ice-T told you to buy car insurance over and over but you ignored his reasonable request.

Now it's time to deal with the guy in the polyester suit.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (viF8m)

151 I don't... what exactly was Ruth Buzzi's career? I don't remember seeing her in anything except lame talk shows.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (2VST1)

152 One thing I've never understood about non-dividend stocks:

What's the point in owning them? Their value only increases if other people buy them, but why are they buying except to hope that others will buy too?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 02, 2025 04:43 PM

You sure you aren't talking about bitcoin? Sounds exactly the same to me.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (e5NfL)

153 Texas is overrun with teslas and the full self driving is fantastic, door to door no driver needed
Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (I1y9+)

Saw a funny skit where a husky couple in a Tesla were going out and just asked the car "Take us to a place we've never been before" and it goes to Planet Fitness.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (8avO+)

154 >>Gold spot price has dropped over $200 an ounce in the last two weeks.

At @$3k an ounce, that's not much movement.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2025 04:53 PM (Ruu2t)

155 Economic News, or We're All Going to Die!!!!

------------------

I'm going to miss you guys.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Regardless of where I go, I'm bound to see some of y'all.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 04:53 PM (vs3rY)

156 You sure you aren't talking about bitcoin? Sounds exactly the same to me.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (e5NfL)

bitcoin doesn't have a company behind it

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:53 PM (8avO+)

157 NAH. Congress is chasing interns to bang on camera in every closet on the Hill.

Posted by: torabora at May 02, 2025 04:51 PM (Oohrt)
_______________

The Senate conference room (aka faggot honeymoon suite) is fully booked up for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:53 PM (YqDXo)

158 One thing I've never understood about non-dividend stocks: What's the point in owning them?

Like buying baseball cards or paintings.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 02, 2025 04:53 PM (McYvC)

159 Other countries run on tariffs, but out Leftists h8 ours

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2025 04:53 PM (ypFCm)

160 I don't... what exactly was Ruth Buzzi's career? I don't remember seeing her in anything except lame talk shows.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Laugh In. Beating Artie Johnson over the head with her handbag.

She also played a ventriloquist, IIRC, in an episode of The Love Boat.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (77rzZ)

161 Not worried in the least.

I died from Popcorn Lung during Trump's first term.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (Ruu2t)

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Drinking the Fish Tank Cleaner killed me, but I never got Covid!

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (D9BsV)

162 136 We don't need an SPR, we need about 6 new refineries, strategically situated around the Continental US of A.
Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:50 PM (cPGH3)

As long as it's not in my backyard, I'm fine.

I don't want my neighborhood to smell like New Jersey, I'm sure you can understand.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (uCjyK)

163 I don't... what exactly was Ruth Buzzi's career? I don't remember seeing her in anything except lame talk shows.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (2VST1)

Laugh In in the 60s / 70s. One of the regulars

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (8avO+)

164 "Gold spot price has dropped over $200 an ounce in the last two weeks."

It had spiked, a couple days at least up over $100. One metals guy says China is on holiday, will be back (buying) on Monday.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (Cus5s)

165 I am not opposed to the traditional hybrid, but I would never buy a Prius. Fag-mobile. I've seen other Toyota and Honda hybrids that actually look like traditional sedans. Kia, as well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (0aYVJ)

166 I don't... what exactly was Ruth Buzzi's career? I don't remember seeing her in anything except lame talk shows.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Rowan & Martin's Laugh In & 70's game shows.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (vs3rY)

167 One thing I've never understood about non-dividend stocks: What's the point in owning them?

Like buying baseball cards or paintings.
Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson

Or NFTs?

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:54 PM (77rzZ)

168 >>Drinking the Fish Tank Cleaner killed me, but I never got Covid!

Probably the bleach you injected that saved you.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (Ruu2t)

169 Dude near me has a 1962 two-tone Thunderbird for sale, it looks like its in good shape, at least the body. Its Oregon so shouldn't be much rust. Probably gonna be pretty expensive for a bullet bird.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (2VST1)

170 Look at core GDP, without government spending... ah borrowing, is at 3%/year.

I'm ok with that and if you look at core GDP under Biden we were negative almost the entire four years.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (17s+e)

171 >>I didn't know that. If we had a media worth the cost of the rope to hang them we would know that. If a Republican had done that people living under bridges would know that.

https://tinyurl.com/29jay93s

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (viF8m)

172 Not only is the economy getting set to ROAR, but everyone is healthier now that RFK Jr. is getting rid of all those funky fake colors like Red #9, Ass#11 and Yellow #5. As an added benefit, less E Coli going around since the Beaners are no longer shitting on the lettuce before shipping it to Aldi's for consumption.

Posted by: The New York Sun at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (R/m4+)

173 19 Stock market is speculation on the future.
Posted by: dantesed
___________
At some level, everything we do is speculation on the future.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

May we interest you in one of our life insurance products?

Posted by: THE Prudential at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (DsA2n)

174 >>I am not opposed to the traditional hybrid, but I would never buy a Prius. Fag-mobile. I've seen other Toyota and Honda hybrids that actually look like traditional sedans. Kia, as well.

Most of them lose the battle of simple physics when it comes to a collision.

Posted by: garrett at May 02, 2025 04:55 PM (Ruu2t)

175 OTOH, Jim Cramer now says there's no chance of a recession.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Maybe he's trying to be more accurate by publicly saying the opposite of what he wants to?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (hB7mE)

176
The new fake "Slate" electric $20K truck:

https://is.gd/V43tKx

Tell me this is not a Hoax.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (hJphV)

177 I bought my wife a Honda Odyssey last month (more made in America than my Chevy pickup) and I looked at a new Accord while I was there. Was a normal one, not a hybrid. Really nice car, and good to see a manufacturer that still makes a quality sedan and not another generic SUV crossover

Posted by: brak at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (jGJov)

178 I don't want my neighborhood to smell like New Jersey, I'm sure you can understand.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

We have landfills. We can have refineries.
Much better than paper mills, yes?

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (cPGH3)

179 In the latest news from the People's Republic, Newsom is talking about building / expropriating a petroleum refinery in California, to be run by the state, because reasons. A commie wet dream of having the state run everything.

Yet another train wreck in the making.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

That would actually work if he hired good people to run it and make a profit and use it to pay down the debt in our balanced budget.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (8avO+)

180 Rowan & Martin's Laugh In & 70's game shows.

Well that explains why I barely am aware of her. Odd that people seem so fond of her based on that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (2VST1)

181 Posted by: THE Prudential

Poseur.
-- THE Ohio State University

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:57 PM (77rzZ)

182 That would actually work if he hired good people to run it and make a profit and use it to pay down the debt in our balanced budget.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (8avO+)
_________________

Can I come to your planet? It sounds very nice.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:57 PM (YqDXo)

183
Am I really this cynical?
I'm at the point where I don't believe Anything, anymore.

But that Slate truck has my spidey-sense tingling. It sure looks like a Hoax. But "influencers" are already shilling for it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:57 PM (hJphV)

184 Tell me this is not a Hoax.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM

It's only a $500 deposit, right?

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (jc0TO)

185 Well that explains why I barely am aware of her. Odd that people seem so fond of her based on that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Nostalgia for what they grew up with.

Now, the way off my lawn is thataway.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (77rzZ)

186 179 In the latest news from the People's Republic, Newsom is talking about building / expropriating a petroleum refinery in California, to be run by the state, because reasons. A commie wet dream of having the state run everything.

Yet another train wreck in the making.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

That would actually work if he hired good people to run it and make a profit and use it to pay down the debt in our balanced budget.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (8avO+)
________________

Except they'll have Karen Bass and the three fire dykes running it. What's the worst that can happen?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (YqDXo)

187 We have landfills. We can have refineries.
Much better than paper mills, yes?
Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (cPGH3)

You may have landfills, I most certainly do not. My garbage goes on a train and is dumped in South Carolina or something, like civilized people.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (uCjyK)

188 Obviously a play on tesla.

I think the whole thing is a Hoax, though. An elaborate AI-generated hoax.
Posted by: Soohotthsayer at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (hJphV)

If its the red one with 3 slit headlights, Jay Leno just had one on JLG.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (O6RlW)

189 A cart would remove the fun of taking them down stairs, though.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Pushing them down the stairs in cart would be even more dynamic and exciting than just pushing them down the stairs

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (hB7mE)

190 Hq needs a bodycam.of the day thread

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (I1y9+)

191 I'd prefer a Hybrid, actually. It seems like the simple and sane low gas usage model that takes real world into account and I never heard of the fire problems much with the gas first types.

I have several reasons why I don't want a hybrid, but the main one is that the f***ing government wants to tell me I must have one, and nothing else will suffice.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (s8j++)

192 btw, I saw there's supposebly a new American car company taking pre-orders for their new very *basic* plain-jane electric pickup truck. It's called SLATE.

Obviously a play on tesla.

I think the whole thing is a Hoax, though. An elaborate AI-generated hoax.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (hJphV)

It's a Bezos-backed production.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (VNX3d)

193 Hell, look up Ruth Buzzi on IMDb. She's credited in 131 different shows. Way more than I thought.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 04:59 PM (vs3rY)

194

It's only a $500 deposit, right?
Posted by: toby928

Si.

Are you interested?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:59 PM (hJphV)

195 >>I don't get it.

And that's why you are looking for a new car. Ice-T told you to buy car insurance over and over but you ignored his reasonable request.

Now it's time to deal with the guy in the polyester suit.

Clearly I need to watch more TV.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:59 PM (s8j++)

196 Folks, take away CAFE standards, and we would have a VW diesel truck for around $12,000 right now.
50MPG in the 80's.

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 04:59 PM (cPGH3)

197 You may have landfills, I most certainly do not. My garbage goes on a train and is dumped in South Carolina or something, like civilized people.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 04:58 PM (uCjyK)

Barnswell?

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (rj6Yv)

198 Willowed, from the Germany thread:

I think the use of Hitler as everyone's favorite demon is because he arose in Europe, in one of its most outwardly civilized countries. Stalin was Russian, and they had always been regarded as semibarbarians at best. Mao, Pol Pot, Tojo -- all Asian, sand therefore mere exotic curiosities. Mussolini was nowhere near the madman that Hitler was. Hitler therefore represents the total depravity at the heart of Western Civ.

Not that expect any of the brain-dead libs who are always invoking his name to understand any of this.
Posted by: Bulg

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (77rzZ)

199 Much better than paper mills, yes?
Posted by: MkY

Paper mills don't smell nearly as bad as they used to. There's still a whiff of overcooked broccoli in the air, but at least you can't smell it 50 miles away.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (hB7mE)

200 Ah, the smell of paper mills. Does not smell like victory at all.

Posted by: Francis at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (bbuBP)

201
I've yet to see one of these Slates actually run & drive.

I did see one guy supposebly sit inside one, and it looked...cramped. Like his knees were up against his chest.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (hJphV)

202 In the latest news from the People's Republic, Newsom is talking about building / expropriating a petroleum refinery in California, to be run by the state, because reasons. A commie wet dream of having the state run everything.

Yet another train wreck in the making.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

That would actually work if he hired good people to run it and make a profit and use it to pay down the debt in our balanced budget.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (8avO+)
________________

Except they'll have Karen Bass and the three fire dykes running it. What's the worst that can happen?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

It'll be CITGO & Venezuela within 3 months.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 02, 2025 05:01 PM (vs3rY)

203 Si.

Are you interested?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:59 PM

Vaguely. This has become a golf cart town so I decent EV would fit in for around town use.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:01 PM (jc0TO)

204 Folks, take away CAFE standards, and we would have a VW diesel truck for around $12,000 right now

We'd have station wagons and mini trucks back. We'd have sub- $40,000 cars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:01 PM (2VST1)

205 91 My Ford Fusion lost its transmission,

did you look in its other pants?

Posted by: anachronda at May 02, 2025 05:01 PM (sGtp+)

206 It is not the garbage and refineries that are why nj has an unpleasant odor so much as the residents

Posted by: N at May 02, 2025 05:01 PM (I1y9+)

207
It's a Bezos-backed production.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Yeah, and supposebly American built.
I'm sure the biggest importer of chinese junk is going to make an American car.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:02 PM (hJphV)

208 169 Dude near me has a 1962 two-tone Thunderbird for sale, it looks like its in good shape, at least the body. Its Oregon so shouldn't be much rust. Probably gonna be pretty expensive for a bullet bird.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

It has gold valve covers. You can't afford it.

Posted by: Ralph Williams at May 02, 2025 05:02 PM (G5+As)

209 Barnswell?
Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (rj6Yv)

I have no idea, to be honest. They're pretty secretive about it for obvious reasons.

But NYC municipal trash ends up somewhere in the hinterlands.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 02, 2025 05:02 PM (uCjyK)

210 You gotta look at the bon mocket. The bon mocket!

Posted by: Snakehead Carville at May 02, 2025 05:03 PM (63Dwl)

211 Barnwell is how it's spelled, not "Barnswell".

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 05:03 PM (rj6Yv)

212
Just be careful of John Elway in a golf cart.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:03 PM (hJphV)

213 198 Stalin was Russian, and they had always been regarded as semibarbarians at best.

*pouts*

Posted by: georgia at May 02, 2025 05:03 PM (sGtp+)

214 Ah, the smell of paper mills. Does not smell like victory at all.

Boise Cascade used to have a huge paper mill in the center of Salem, it was a blight and stench that was difficult to believe. Decades after they moved out, it was still a big hole in the ground with a concrete shell. Parts of it they couldn't EVER clean up. There's a park nearby now, a huge concrete sphere that used to hold ghastly chemicals in it was deemed impossible to really clean or move safely, so they sealed it and painted it like a jaunty planet earth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:03 PM (2VST1)

215 I own a golf cart. I routinely use a golf cart. I would never rely on a golf cart for transportation.
Golf carts are for "don't go beyond where I can tow you back with the Allis B" range.

Posted by: MkY at May 02, 2025 05:03 PM (cPGH3)

216 Paper mills don't smell nearly as bad as they used to. There's still a whiff of overcooked broccoli in the air, but at least you can't smell it 50 miles away.
Posted by: FeatherBlade

Nothing smells as nasty as a chicken house. At least, they used to be horrible. Haven't been near one in years.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:04 PM (77rzZ)

217 The 1959 Thunderbird is worst bird of the series.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:04 PM (jc0TO)

218 The new fake "Slate" electric $20K truck:

https://is.gd/V43tKx

Tell me this is not a Hoax.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 04:56 PM (hJphV)
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I'm sure it can roll downhill, just like that "electric" truck some time ago.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

219 In Sim City 2000 I used to put the landfills, garbage incinerators, and power plants next to the neighboring towns.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 05:04 PM (Vnr18)

220 > Yeah, and supposebly American built.
I'm sure the biggest importer of chinese junk is going to make an American car.
---------
Built in America.

From cheap Chinese junk.

"Made in America" Thus ---> American

Been going on for decades, right?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 05:04 PM (Q4IgG)

221 The Chem-Nuclear low-radioactive waste site is located in Barnwell County, SC.

Posted by: mrp at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (rj6Yv)

222
It just occurred to me that 2028 will be the 100th birthday of the 1953 Corvette.

Or whatever the math is.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (hJphV)

223 It has gold valve covers. You can't afford it.

I am absolutely certain that I cannot afford it. Its gotta be 20k even if the engine is a mess

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (2VST1)

224
75th?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (hJphV)

225 188 If its the red one with 3 slit headlights, Jay Leno just had one on JLG.

i thought the 3 slit thing was just an experiment.

Posted by: anachronda, trying to catch the wave at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (sGtp+)

226 LA Times ...firewall...reporting High Speed Train financial crash. Might take 20 more years.

This should destroy Democrats in California.
But they will blame Republicans like they do for all of California problems.

I'm just surprised LA Times reporting this.
Posted by: torabora at May 02, 2025 04:48 PM (Oohrt)

It doesn't move the needle because it was such obvious nonsense everyone knew it wouldn't work. The best was during the election someone went to the HS rail like and was riffing on the waste and the department sent enforcers out to protest the protest. High comedy.

I'm less well versed on geography in NorCal so here is the problem with HS rail in So Cal. In order to be high speed, and get to SoCal, you have to cross a major line of large hills. So a tunnel? or a pass cut through?

Then you hit valleys filled with roads and infrastructure and houses that you have to destroy to make a nice fast unblocked path. Then a second line of hills...and even more hills and full valleys...

never gonna happen.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (8avO+)

227 Speaking of ICE cars and California, The big Valero refinery in Vallejo is going to shut down because regulations too onerous, business climate to hateful. Our per gallon price is at $4.80/gl regular.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (17s+e)

228 "Newsom is talking about building / expropriating a petroleum refinery in California, to be run by the state,"

I read this morning (somewhere) that California was about to lose a major (private?) refinery ... due to too much regulation. The Newsom plan, make CA commie, I guess.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (Cus5s)

229 A settlement for Ashlii Babbitt may be imminent. I didn't realize that this woman was just 5'2" and 110 pounds. And unarmed.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (Ma+6R)

230 Nothing smells as nasty as a chicken house.

I see your claim and raise you a Mushroom plant. Guess what they grow shrooms in?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (2VST1)

231 Willowed, from the Germany thread:

---------------

Invading Russia after agreeing to a peace treaty was straight-up monomaniacal madness (although I have never studied and know nothing about the context).

I saw Monomaniacal Madness open for ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (D9BsV)

232 In Sim City 2000 I used to put the landfills, garbage incinerators, and power plants next to the neighboring towns.

Reticulating splines.

I loved that game.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (McYvC)

233 It's only a $500 deposit, right?
Posted by: toby928
_____________

Preferably in cash, small unmarked bills.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:07 PM (YqDXo)

234 Nothing smells as nasty as a chicken house.

I see your claim and raise you a Mushroom plant. Guess what they grow shrooms in?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (2VST1)
_______________

Democrat policies?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:07 PM (YqDXo)

235 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.

Do you think shutting down and restarting your engine every few minutes is good or bad in terms of wear and tear?

Not an engineer so I can't speculate.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 02, 2025 05:08 PM (wBaIH)

236 Stalin was Russian, and they had always been regarded as semibarbarians at best.

*pouts*
Posted by: georgia

Yeah, but nobody in the West knew about the country of Georgia. They thought it was just the state that Sherman burned in Gone With the Wind.

And Stalin spoke Russian (non-natively), and identified himself with Russia, whether in its tsarist or Soviet incarnation.

There's the story that Stalin's mother once visited him in the Kremlin, and asked a question along the lines of (a la The Bobs), "What do you do here?" Stalin's answer was along the lines of "Do you remember the Tsars? Well, I'm kind of like the Tsar now."

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:08 PM (77rzZ)

237 It's only a $500 deposit, right?
Posted by: toby928
_____________

Preferably in cash, small unmarked bills.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:07 PM (YqDXo)

Copper pennies.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:08 PM (VNX3d)

238 It has gold valve covers. You can't afford it.

I am absolutely certain that I cannot afford it. Its gotta be 20k even if the engine is a mess
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:05 PM (2VST1)

Back in the 90s a coworker's husband had come into some money and was buying a Lexus. He mentioned the gold tipped exhaust tips and was surprised when cheap old me advised him to get them. I said, Tim, you are getting a Lexus, we have already left economy far behind. If you want em, get em.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:08 PM (8avO+)

239 174 Most of them lose the battle of simple physics when it comes to a collision.

except for the odd one every so often that tunnels through

Posted by: anachronda at May 02, 2025 05:09 PM (sGtp+)

240

Slate will offer a bare bones model, which is priced in the mid $20,000 range, with federal tax credits, making it more affordable than other electric trucks.

Customers can also choose to add extras.

The truck starts with a package that delivers a 150 mile range.

The truck will be sold directly to customers, bypassing dealerships to keep costs down.

https://www.slate.auto/en

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 05:09 PM (63Dwl)

241 Democrat policies?

...we were looking for "pasteurized feces" but we'll accept that.

Do you think shutting down and restarting your engine every few minutes is good or bad in terms of wear and tear?

Most modern cars do that now, stoplights etc your engine shuts off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)

242 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.

they put auto-stop in everything now, not just hybrids. have to turn it off every time yo7u start the vehicle

thanks CAFE

Posted by: brak at May 02, 2025 05:09 PM (jGJov)

243 "Not an engineer so I can't speculate."

How do you feel about biology?

Posted by: Francis at May 02, 2025 05:09 PM (bbuBP)

244 Trump: Eff those losers on Rushmore! I want my own mountain!
Posted by: Jmel at May 02, 2025 04:26 PM (bVhJi)

Well Crazy Horse has his own mountain. - Its actually a cool thing. Funded by donations. It's also been a very slow process, who knows if they'll ever get his horse 'carved' into the mountain.
Posted by: PaleRider at May 02, 2025 04:29 PM (bP/i4)

Carve DJT's likeness into El Capitan at Yosemite. Exploding liberal heads would be entertaining.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 05:09 PM (B0Ivl)

245 Speaking of ICE cars and California, The big Valero refinery in Vallejo is going to shut down because regulations too onerous, business climate to hateful. Our per gallon price is at $4.80/gl regular.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (17s+e)
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I think that that's what prompted Newsom's excretion re CA running a refinery of its own. You know, bring that government efficiency to bear on this problem, as Obama famously said re Obamacare.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (YqDXo)

246 I saw Monomaniacal Madness open for ...

Brian Wilson at the Palladium in 1975?
Or maybe it was Boston in 1985...

Posted by: gKWVE at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (gKWVE)

247
But them using "slate" is kinda bush league, to me.

Kinda an asshole move, if you ask me.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (hJphV)

248 Musk: Olympus Mons or bust!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM

Mons Veneris *and* bust >>>>>>> Olympus Mons or bust

Posted by: J. Random 'Ron at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (0sNs1)

249 Preferably in cash, small unmarked bills.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:07 PM (YqDXo)

Copper pennies.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

This is why I want to know what they're going to do about the pennies currently in circulation. I'm stocking up.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (77rzZ)

250 Not sure about the electric truck
Leno had two guys on with their 4door electric truck. Not sure if it's the same one as the link above. On phone, can see it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (O6RlW)

251
It's like bezos naming his stupid fake space program XSpace. Lame.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (hJphV)

252 Going to war with the largest, nuke owning country in the world is a bad idea ?? No one told us !

---Ukraine!

Posted by: runner at May 02, 2025 05:11 PM (g47mK)

253

The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.

Do you think shutting down and restarting your engine every few minutes is good or bad in terms of wear and tear?

Not an engineer so I can't speculate.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 02, 2025 05:08 PM (wBaIH)

Not sure I would care that much. I never heard of that being a huge problem like the infernos of EVs.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:12 PM (8avO+)

254 I saw Monomaniacal Madness open for ...

Brian Wilson at the Palladium in 1975?
Or maybe it was Boston in 1985...
Posted by: gKWVE at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (gKWVE)

Mohammed in the Kasbah in 720?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:12 PM (VNX3d)

255 Musk: Olympus Mons or bust!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 02, 2025 04:33 PM

Olympian Zeus knew his way around a mons or two.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:12 PM (77rzZ)

256 Nothing smells as nasty as a chicken house.

I see your claim and raise you a Mushroom plant. Guess what they grow shrooms in?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:06 PM (2VST1)
_______________

Democrat policies?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:07 PM

Wait until we march north, as certain 'commenters' here are trying to incite.

Posted by: Penguins and their projectile pooping at May 02, 2025 05:12 PM (0sNs1)

257 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.

Do you think shutting down and restarting your engine every few minutes is good or bad in terms of wear and tear?

Not an engineer so I can't speculate.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 02, 2025 05:08 PM (wBaIH)
________________

Probably does wonders for the starter motor. And the battery.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:12 PM (YqDXo)

258 Do you get to shove them on a flat moving cart first? A few are jumbo-sized, and not worth getting injured pulling out feet first. A cart would remove the fun of taking them down stairs, though.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

You could use one of those tilt bed carts for the stairs. That way you can aim it a little bit to grow the pile of useless shitstains at the bottom.

Posted by: BifBewalski at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (MsrgL)

259 183 But that Slate truck has my spidey-sense tingling. It sure looks like a Hoax. But "influencers" are already shilling for it.

you can trust the influencers. influencers never lead you wrong.

Posted by: anachronda at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (sGtp+)

260 It's like bezos naming his stupid fake space program XSpace. Lame.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (hJphV)
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Whereas he calls his first wife XWife.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (YqDXo)

261
late will offer a bare bones model, which is priced in the mid $20,000 range, with federal tax credits, making it more affordable than other electric trucks.

Oh, see?
It's being touted & shilled as a $20K truck. But it's mid-20's. And that's with NOTHING. And probably a really weak version of the electric motor. No AC? No Power windows? (Which is all I require.)

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (hJphV)

262 Just how efficient, safe and productive will this "state run refinery" be in California?

Bet it burns down in the first 6 months.

If for no other reason than the sweet, sweet irony.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (Q4IgG)

263 I think that that's what prompted Newsom's excretion re CA running a refinery of its own. You know, bring that government efficiency to bear on this problem, as Obama famously said re Obamacare.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:10 PM (YqDXo)

Don't see how Newsome running it suddenly exempts it from all laws and regulations. Probably adds more if the wonderful efficiency of Cal Fire is a standard.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:14 PM (8avO+)

264 My Ford Fusion lost its transmission, and a new one costs $8500, so I'm in the market for a new car.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 02, 2025 04:41 PM (s8j++)

Fusion underwent fission, eh?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 05:14 PM (B0Ivl)

265 a bare bones model

Kate Moss?

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:14 PM (77rzZ)

266 you can trust the influencers. influencers never lead you wrong.
Posted by: anachronda at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM

I rate this impeccably True.

Posted by: Harry Sasson at May 02, 2025 05:14 PM (0sNs1)

267 Just how efficient, safe and productive will this "state run refinery" be in California?

Bet it burns down in the first 6 months.

If for no other reason than the sweet, sweet irony.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (Q4IgG)

It will be swallowed into the ground during the first earthquake after the takeover.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:15 PM (VNX3d)

268 It's being touted & shilled as a $20K truck.

Yeah that ain't happening. Expect 30-40 when it ever gets made, if it ever gets made. Be kinda cool if they could but I would expect that to have a range of like 40 miles and 17 horsepower like that tiny Chinese pickup

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:15 PM (2VST1)

269 Just how efficient, safe and productive will this "state run refinery" be in California?

Bet it burns down in the first 6 months.

If for no other reason than the sweet, sweet irony.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 02, 2025 05:13 PM (Q4IgG)

Unlike normal CA programs, this MIGHT work and has an objective that is not harmful in itself. That sets it apart from the others.

I didn't say it will work.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:15 PM (8avO+)

270 I thought that slate was the only color it comes in.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:15 PM (jc0TO)

271
So, it's a $30K truck. And it will suck. I'll bet for a decent iteration, you'll spend $35K.

Meanwhile, the Cybertruck is a beast...and a rocket.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (hJphV)

272 I think the use of Hitler as everyone's favorite demon is because he arose in Europe, in one of its most outwardly civilized countries. -- Bulg

Schiklgruber also did his dirty work in Europe. Every now and again someone of European descent goes full "Heart of Darkness" like Francisco López in Paraguay or von Ungern-Sternberg in Mongolia, but unless you're from either of those countries you probably don't care (or even think he's a hero).

Posted by: gKWVE at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (gKWVE)

273 Slate is a not-yet approved 'Ette fashion color.

Use responsibly.

Posted by: AoSHQ Style Guide at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (0sNs1)

274 It will be swallowed into the ground during the first earthquake after the takeover.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:15 PM

Won't that release the demons that feed on human souls?

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (jc0TO)

275
I remember someone saying during COVID, "I don't want to die for your 401(k)!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (QnmlO)

276 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.
_______________

Now, class, when do light bulbs give up the ghost?

Ans.: when they're just turned on. There's the light bulb in a firehouse in CA somewhere that's been burning for a century (IIRC) and hasn't been turned off in all that time.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

277 It's being touted & shilled as a $20K truck.

Yeah that ain't happening. Expect 30-40 when it ever gets made, if it ever gets made. Be kinda cool if they could but I would expect that to have a range of like 40 miles and 17 horsepower like that tiny Chinese pickup
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:15 PM (2VST1)

The issue with an EV truck is weight. They could stack a hella lot of batteries in the trailer of a semi version. Just that it would fall to the earths core on most roads due to the weight.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:17 PM (8avO+)

278 Whereas he calls his first wife XWife.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Mine are XBabyMommas.
-- Elon Musk

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:17 PM (77rzZ)

279 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.
_______________

Now, class, when do light bulbs give up the ghost?

Ans.: when they're just turned on. There's the light bulb in a firehouse in CA somewhere that's been burning for a century (IIRC) and hasn't been turned off in all that time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

its filament is as thick as a finger lol. I gauge that has more effect than not turning it off.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:18 PM (8avO+)

280 The issue with an EV truck is weight. They could stack a hella lot of batteries in the trailer of a semi version.

Yeah they have to go across bridges and drive on ordinary roads on tires. There are actual practical limits on the battery capacity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:18 PM (2VST1)

281 Schiklgruber also did his dirty work in Europe. Every now and again someone of European descent goes full "Heart of Darkness" like Francisco López in Paraguay or von Ungern-Sternberg in Mongolia, but unless you're from either of those countries you probably don't care (or even think he's a hero).
Posted by: gKWVE

Yes, good point. Hitler was in the center ring.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:18 PM (77rzZ)

282 PROMISE?! The Economist Says the UN Could Run Out of Money IN MERE MONTHS and the Jokes Write Themselves

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If that happens, the nations will no longer be united!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 05:19 PM (L/fGl)

283 Probably does wonders for the starter motor. And the battery.

Comes with uprated AGM (glass mat) battery.
batteries are only good for 2-5 years anyways.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2025 05:19 PM (FhXTo)

284 I don't think the chairman of the Fed reports to the Secretary of The Treasury.

I think he reports to Congress.

I don't think Trump can fire him.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 02, 2025 05:20 PM (mWSu4)

285
Out cruising one night in high school, we stopped the car so one of us could go relieve himself after drinking. He reached out to lean against the building, but the building was about forty feet away. He fell down and pissed all over himself.

DOGE's cuts across departments is putting some sense of fiscal sanity into government spending. TBills are more attractive than they've been in decades, and TBonds will soon follow.

That cocksucker, Powell, will be the one on the ground, pissing himself because the only game those federal reserve pieces of shit know is to lower rates far below where they ought to be to benefit democrat administrations and to move rates upwards toward where they ought to be to harm GOP administrations.

Neutralize their arsenal. The federal reserve is a cabal of "and domestic."

Posted by: biteme at May 02, 2025 05:20 PM (xWS9V)

286 PROMISE?! The Economist Says the UN Could Run Out of Money IN MERE MONTHS and the Jokes Write Themselves
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Then who's going to rape the natives if the blue helmets pull out? I know. Phrasing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:20 PM (YqDXo)

287 PROMISE?! The Economist Says the UN Could Run Out of Money IN MERE MONTHS and the Jokes Write Themselves

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If that happens, the nations will no longer be united!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 05:19 PM (L/fGl)

Foreclosure sale on the UN headquarters in NYC? All of their offices in the US? Please???

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:21 PM (VNX3d)

288 Well some in Georgia pull the hair-splitting move of saying Stalin was Ossetian, not Georgian. As in North, and South, Ossetia (lovely places BTW). And his birthplace in Gori is in fact just down the hill from South Ossetia, and so presumably was "Ossetian" in some time period.

And Mandelstham's little poem that earned him a free stay in government housing (gulag) refers to Boba as "the Ossetian".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 02, 2025 05:21 PM (1m82a)

289 >>My Ford Fusion lost its transmission, and a new one costs $8500, so I'm in the market for a new car.
*
Ice-T done tried to warn you but did you listen?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025

***
*Cue Law and Order "scene change" music*

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (omVj0)

290 Foreclosure sale on the UN headquarters in NYC?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:21 PM (VNX3d)
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Future home of the world's biggest Taco Bell.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (YqDXo)

291
There's the light bulb in a firehouse in CA somewhere that's been burning for a century (IIRC) and hasn't been turned off in all that time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

It's amazing that the building hasn't suffered a power outage in 100+ years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (63Dwl)

292 Anybody catch that segment on Fox last night where Musk, Big Balls and the whole team were assembled for a Q & A?

You really don't want government running an oil refinery.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (viF8m)

293 It's amazing that the building hasn't suffered a power outage in 100+ years.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (63Dwl)

It's on a back-up battery system.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 02, 2025 05:23 PM (mWSu4)

294 Canucks: Slamming Busch Beer and Acting the Fool

https://shorturl.at/6OKCq

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Elephants and Earthquakes! at May 02, 2025 05:23 PM (L/fGl)

295 Anybody catch that segment on Fox last night where Musk, Big Balls and the whole team were assembled for a Q & A?

You really don't want government running an oil refinery.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (viF8m)
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Yeah, I did. Wow.

And I don't the government running much of anything, perhaps least of all a refinery.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:23 PM (YqDXo)

296 They built ev chargers for what a billion six?

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 05:24 PM (Vnr18)

297 275
I remember someone saying during COVID, "I don't want to die for your 401(k)!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
.................................
Yea, I 'memba. I heard that once at work and I replied 'well, on the bright side, we're all going to die anyway and have no control over how, when, or where!!'.

Nobody asks me questions at work anymore. Weird

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at May 02, 2025 05:24 PM (mDmlE)

298 I've yet to see one of these Slates actually run & drive.

I did see one guy supposebly sit inside one, and it looked...cramped. Like his knees were up against his chest.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:00 PM (hJphV)

You want an electric truck, you have the Tesla Cybertruck. What we need right now is a Toyota Hilux, like all the Third World Countries get.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 05:24 PM (B0Ivl)

299 Foreclosure sale on the UN headquarters in NYC?

Apparently they are running out of money. Breaks your heart.

The UN Building is supposedly really feeling its age, it is a mess inside. And all those times Superman wrecked the roof busting in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:24 PM (2VST1)

300 NASDAQ Composite (^IXIC)

17,977.73 +266.99 (+1.51%)

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:24 PM (jc0TO)

301
Speaking of fake and Hoaxes...

I present...

the Airbike:

https://is.gd/o1mUR5

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:24 PM (hJphV)

302
Re: above vid

Sad how many people think it's real in the comments.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM (hJphV)

303 AOP, is the Hilux the one all the jihadis drive?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM (D7yNd)

304 And I don't the government running much of anything, perhaps least of all a refinery.

How about a liquor store?

Posted by: Pennsylvania! at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM (gKWVE)

305 I want a $10,000 Toyota pickup.

Posted by: Boss Moss at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM (Vnr18)

306 I have wanted (and designed dozens of times) a hoverbike for most of my life, before Star Wars came out, even. A bicycle with hover instead of wheels. Let me go anywhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (2VST1)

307 Most modern cars do that now, stoplights etc your engine shuts off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025

***
That's why, in 2019, I skipped buying a 2017 Buick LaCrosse. Beautiful car, but you can't turn the auto stop-start off without a $150 aftermarket part. I am glad I bought the 2016, which does not have that "feature."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (omVj0)

308 >>Yeah, I did. Wow.

>>And I don't the government running much of anything, perhaps least of all a refinery.

We all knew the federal government was corrupt and stupid but hearing it detailed really pissed me off.

And they've only begun to find stuff.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (viF8m)

309 AOP, is the Hilux the one all the jihadis drive?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM

Made by Toyota. They'd sell a bunch of them here, but reasons ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (0sNs1)

310 I want a personal ornithopter.

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (jc0TO)

311 Future home of the world's biggest Taco Bell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Talk about carbon emissions going through the roof.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (77rzZ)

312 How about a liquor store?

Oregon literally owns all liquor stores in the state.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (2VST1)

313 PROMISE?! The Economist Says the UN Could Run Out of Money IN MERE MONTHS and the Jokes Write Themselves

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

Posted by: UN African Peacekeepers and Rapists at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (R/m4+)

314 Foreclosure sale on the UN headquarters in NYC?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 02, 2025 05:21 PM (VNX3d)
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Future home of the world's biggest Taco Bell.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (YqDXo)

Time for someone else to get the honor. China has 59 empty cities to use.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (8avO+)

315 No! Not an American company making things! That's like our nightmare and worst imaginings all rolled into one?

Posted by: ... at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (E0p3T)

316 Anybody catch that segment on Fox last night where Musk, Big Balls and the whole team were assembled for a Q & A?

You really don't want government running an oil refinery.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 05:22 PM (viF8m)
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Who is Big Balls?

Posted by: LASue at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (lCppi)

317 Tangentially, Trump does have the power to fire Powell
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NO HE DOES NOT

-Judge Boasberg
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 02, 2025 04:17 PM (wgbpW)

I doubt Trump wants to fire Powell. Powell and Bessant have lunch together once a week. Trump would have to find someone Bessant is willing to talk to.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 05:28 PM (D7oie)

318 Most modern cars do that now, stoplights etc your engine shuts off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025

***
That's why, in 2019, I skipped buying a 2017 Buick LaCrosse. Beautiful car, but you can't turn the auto stop-start off without a $150 aftermarket part. I am glad I bought the 2016, which does not have that "feature."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (omVj0)

i remember when the enthusiasm for 'can't start engine without seatbelt on' stopped because a woman got raped because of that feature.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:28 PM (8avO+)

319 Duncanthrax, bet you can't get an extended warranty on those trucks.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM (D7yNd)

320 Who is Big Balls?

Is this some Ayn Rand thing?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM (2VST1)

321 Who is Big Balls?
Posted by: LASue at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (lCppi)

One of DOGE's best information finding specialists.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM (8avO+)

322 >>Who is Big Balls?

Well I don't wanna ...

Oh, he's one of Musk's 20 something geniuses.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM (viF8m)

323 How about a liquor store?

Oregon literally owns all liquor stores in the state.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:27 PM (2VST1)

Washington used to but I think they divested. one of the true pleasures of moving to California in the 80s was buying booze at Ralphs.

Posted by: LASue at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM (lCppi)

324 WHO WAS BALLZ!?

Posted by: toby928 at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)

325 I have wanted (and designed dozens of times) a hoverbike for most of my life, before Star Wars came out, even. A bicycle with hover instead of wheels. Let me go anywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (2VST1)

But not stop. Oops.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 02, 2025 05:30 PM (8avO+)

326 This is all misinformation.

CNN sez the world is on fire and it’s worse than 1930.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at May 02, 2025 05:30 PM (NWr1F)

327 In California, you could buy hard liquor in Safeway.

Cali did have some redeeming qualities, back in the 90s.

Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025 05:31 PM (77rzZ)

328
Anyone remember when Ford was attaching their Seat Belt Straps to the door and it would Literally STRANGLE YOU when you entered the car?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:31 PM (hJphV)

329 Dude near me has a 1962 two-tone Thunderbird for sale, it looks like its in good shape, at least the body. Its Oregon so shouldn't be much rust. Probably gonna be pretty expensive for a bullet bird.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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One of the "flowerpot taillight" 'Birds! I think they're also nicknamed the "submarine-nose" T-Birds, because the front fender seen in profile looks like a WWII sub. Beautiful cars, as were the '64-'66 models.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:31 PM (omVj0)

330 Comes with uprated AGM (glass mat) battery.
batteries are only good for 2-5 years anyways.

Posted by: DaveA at May 02, 2025 05:19 PM (FhXTo)

I just reinstalled the battery into my '88 Chevy pickup. Date on it is 5/13, and it will start the truck OK.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 05:31 PM (B0Ivl)

331 309 AOP, is the Hilux the one all the jihadis drive?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM

Made by Toyota. They'd sell a bunch of them here, but reasons ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (0sNs1)
Diesel, 5spd, 4X4, crewcab, what did I leave out?

Posted by: Eromero at May 02, 2025 05:31 PM (LHPAg)

332 The Toyota Hilux is simply the best built small truck I have ever seen. They sell a 3L diesel with 5 speed manual that you will absolutely tire of before it quits running.

Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at May 02, 2025 05:32 PM (McYvC)

333 Duncanthrax, bet you can't get an extended warranty on those trucks.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:29 PM

I'd buy one, especially if I could get the Ma Deuce trim model.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 02, 2025 05:32 PM (0sNs1)

334 Anyone remember when Ford was attaching their Seat Belt Straps to the door and it would Literally STRANGLE YOU when you entered the car?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025

***
There was also that brief aborted attempt at "You've got to put on your belt in order to start the car." The starter would not engage unless you had the belt buckled. That didn't last, thankfully.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:32 PM (omVj0)

335 Anyone remember when Ford was attaching their Seat Belt Straps to the door and it would Literally STRANGLE YOU when you entered the car?

Yeah that went from "that's kinda convenient" to "Awwgh whose idea was this!!!" in a hurry for me. Plus, just how strong are those things with that sliding track thing?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:32 PM (2VST1)

336 I have wanted (and designed dozens of times) a hoverbike for most of my life, before Star Wars came out, even. A bicycle with hover instead of wheels. Let me go anywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:26 PM (2VST1)

Christopher, you have a chance now. A Turkish company is bringing one out, Volonaut

youtu.be/-Fev5M_7Wnw

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 05:32 PM (D7oie)

337 Eromero, that it comes with a 50 cal gun mount in the bed?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:33 PM (D7yNd)

338 But not stop. Oops.

Details, you haters always gotta hate

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:33 PM (2VST1)

339 In California, you could buy hard liquor in Safeway.

Cali did have some redeeming qualities, back in the 90s.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025

***
Lousy-ana has no state liquor stores as far as I know. You buy liquor, wine, and beer right in the grocery.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:34 PM (omVj0)

340 AOP, is the Hilux the one all the jihadis drive?
Posted by: Ben Had at May 02, 2025 05:25 PM (D7yNd)

Yep. And Australians, and South Americans, and Central Americans, and Indian (dot, not feather), etc. etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 02, 2025 05:34 PM (B0Ivl)

341
Sometimes this place feels like a loony bin...

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:35 PM (hJphV)

342

NOOOD

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 02, 2025 05:35 PM (hJphV)

343 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.

Do you think shutting down and restarting your engine every few minutes is good or bad in terms of wear and tear?
===

I'm a mechanical engineer and I can tell you that any machine likes to be on or off for maximum life. Hardest on any machine is starting it up and stopping it. Particularly combustion engines or mechanical machines that need lubrication.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 05:36 PM (17s+e)

344 339 In California, you could buy hard liquor in Safeway.

Cali did have some redeeming qualities, back in the 90s.
Posted by: Bulg at May 02, 2025

***
Lousy-ana has no state liquor stores as far as I know. You buy liquor, wine, and beer right in the grocery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 02, 2025 05:34 PM (omVj0)
Drugstore too.

Posted by: Eromero at May 02, 2025 05:37 PM (LHPAg)

345 But other times Sooth it's the only sanity you can find

Posted by: Skip at May 02, 2025 05:38 PM (ypFCm)

346 well, shoot, I didn't read the rest of the thread, and now I am an idiot.

H. Beam Piper had "air cavalry" mounted on personal fiyers.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 02, 2025 05:38 PM (D7oie)

347 204 Folks, take away CAFE standards, and we would have a VW diesel truck for around $12,000 right now

We'd have station wagons and mini trucks back. We'd have sub- $40,000 cars.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 02, 2025 05:01 PM (2VST

Yes, ending CAFE would hopefully end the era of cookie-cutter passenger vehicle shapes. It's boring seeing pretty-much the same four or five vehicles everywhere.

Posted by: Gref at May 02, 2025 05:38 PM (aBgBM)

348 What a great thread. Regrettable to have missed it.
_always late

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 02, 2025 05:51 PM (M2v2q)

349 Jeez, maybe - I mean it would be great and incredible if we had like a bunch of representative people from each state who would like get together somewhere and like make a responsible budget with like real deficit reduction for the whole country? Maybe like incorporate all the Doge things they found were like totally fraudulent and eliminating them along with reforms? We'd probably have to pay these people to get together and do this, right? Might be worth trying I think?

Or just make a documentary detailing the minute by minute happenings to the like people of this country the second the interest payment on the debt isn't you know like made. Seems like it might get scary bad ya know? Aw well, probably not that important...

Posted by: mard at May 02, 2025 05:53 PM (3A2Vm)

350 The thing with hybrids is that your IC engine shuts off at every stop sign, red light and bum that staggers out in front of your car.

Do you think shutting down and restarting your engine every few minutes is good or bad in terms of wear and tear?
===

I'm a mechanical engineer and I can tell you that any machine likes to be on or off for maximum life. Hardest on any machine is starting it up and stopping it. Particularly combustion engines or mechanical machines that need lubrication.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at May 02, 2025 05:36 PM

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There are lots of Priuses that have gone multiple hundreds of thousands of miles without excessive engine wear issues. Apparently Toyota at least has this covered.

Posted by: Bigsmith at May 02, 2025 05:57 PM (1Au9i)

351 You skipped the DJIA, chief. Down 2%. Not a lot but not nothing either.

Posted by: Joe From Md at May 02, 2025 06:41 PM (Tw3c1)

352 My dad and I were at the local golf cousre in 1965 or so and we walked by a t-Bird. My dad said "That's what single guys drive" as we walked on to our station wagon.

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