Defying the Sloppy “No Dress Code” Dress Code at the Start-up I Once Worked For

Last night I had some fun at the expense of tech industry “start-up culture,” so I’ll stay on that theme tonight.

A decade ago I was recruited and hired in a finance capacity to try to help turn around a struggling start-up. (It ultimately went out of business. Shocker.) The President and the CEO were hopelessly distracted by idiotic management gimmicks, and the employees wasted most of their time on peer coaching, team building, accountability training, breakthrough communication, goal setting, etc. (Among the goals imposed on me were “Embrace the Uncomfortable” and “Kickassery.”

The CEO and the President wore jeans and sneakers, and by stressing “no dress code” what they really meant was “Dress like me in jeans and sneakers.” I didn’t. I wore dress slacks, loafers, and a collared shirt every day. This annoyed them greatly, and the President had several conversations with me about how I was dressing. Below is a compendium of how our conversations went.

PRESIDENT: We have no dress code here. People can wear whatever they prefer.

ME: That’s great.

PRESIDENT: So, just about everyone chooses to wear jeans and sneakers.

ME: That’s great.

PRESIDENT: So you can wear jeans and sneakers if you’d prefer.

ME: Thanks, but I prefer not to.

PRESIDENT: OK. Fine. But you don’t have to wear slacks and loafers. You can wear whatever you find most comfortable.

ME: I find slacks and loafers most comfortable when I’m sitting at a desk.

PRESIDENT: Well, most employees find jeans and sneakers to be the most comfortable.

ME: I don’t. Do you want me to wear jeans and sneakers?

PRESIDENT: You can wear whatever you want.

ME: I want to wear a collared shirt, slacks and loafers.

PRESIDENT: OK, but many employees find that their wardrobe makes a personal statement.

ME: So does mine.

PRESIDENT: What is your statement?

ME: That I prefer to wear slacks, a collared shirt, and loafers when I work.

PRESIDENT: Don’t you want to make an original statement?

ME: Wearing jeans and sneakers to match my co-workers would state that I am actually unoriginal, and that I am simply complying with the company dress code.

PRESIDENT: But we don’t have a dress code! In fact, many employees wear shirts with an ironic message. Our culture stresses individuality.

ME: Would it be ironic if I wore a suit and tie?

PRESIDENT: It would look like you work at a place with a dress code and that’s what’s so great about us – we don’t have a dress code!

ME: It sure sounds like there’s a dress code. But if there is not one, then I prefer to wear a collared shirt, slacks, and loafers.

PRESIDENT: When we take a group picture for our next press release, will you at least wear jeans, sneakers, and our company t-shirt for that one photo shoot?

ME: Of course. I’ll wear whatever you tell me to wear, any time you request that I do so.

PRESIDENT: You know, we often break into spontaneous fun and game activities which spill outside. Wearing jeans and sneakers allows employees to switch gears without having to change.

ME: That’s OK. I don’t want to play games or roughhouse outside. I want to work.

PRESIDENT: One thing that employees appreciate about us not having a dress code is that they don’t have to shop for work clothes. They can wear whatever is in their closet.

ME: I have a closet full of slacks and shirts but only two pairs of jeans. If you want me to wear jeans every day then I need to go shopping for new work clothes.

PRESIDENT: Does it bother you that just about all the other employees choose to wear jeans?

ME: No. Does it bother the other employees that I don’t wear jeans?

PRESIDENT: Some people here feel that your wardrobe makes a judgmental statement about how others dress. Do you feel we should have a more professional dress code here?

ME: No. You just need to be honest about the dress code you are trying to enforce on me.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 07:30 PM

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1 1st

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 29, 2025 07:30 PM (VrVs2)

2 Forst!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 29, 2025 07:33 PM (Hw6WF)

3 Kickassery?

Posted by: kallisto at April 29, 2025 07:33 PM (Ql5aA)

4 Arrgh. Read the content...

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (Hw6WF)

5 PRESIDENT: Some people here feel that your wardrobe makes a judgmental statement about how others dress. Do you feel we should have a more professional dress code here?

I had a niece who encountered this exact situation. She was told she dressed too well, and it was seen as a judgement on other workers.

If they see it that way, perhaps they should consider why they are so sensitive about their work output.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (s8j++)

6 How many pieces of "flair" did they recommend you wear? The minimum 15? Or was there peer pressure to wear more than that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (GlyvH)

7 I was rold I could have a stapler

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (VUnvY)

8 13 pieces of flair is the minimum.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 29, 2025 07:35 PM (MGB5H)

9 I always thought the "we have fun and games in the workplace" schtick was just to weed out the lazy workers.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 29, 2025 07:35 PM (dssJE)

10 How many paradigm shifts were you facilitating?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 29, 2025 07:35 PM (BDj+H)

11 Take Brian, for example. Brain wears 39 pieces of flair.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (MGB5H)

12 Did he ever tell you how much flair you are supposed to wear?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (2VST1)

13 6 How many pieces of "flair" did they recommend you wear? The minimum 15? Or was there peer pressure to wear more than that?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (GlyvH)

7 I was rold I could have a stapler
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (VUnvY)

You gotta be quick to work in an Office Space reference around here. LOL

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (Aqu9a)

14 Look at me reading the content.

Thank you Buck!

Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (jvJvP)

15 You gotta be quick to work in an Office Space reference around here. LOL
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (Aqu9a)
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Buck's conversation with his boss is just too eerily familiar...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (GlyvH)

16 Did they also encourage neck tattoos and a nose ring?

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (P0Y0t)

17 Do you feel we should have a more professional dress code here?

Yes, the answer is "yes"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (2VST1)

18 I resisted wearing business type clothes because in my job at any minute I might have to crawl under some desk or jam myself behind a piece of equipment trying to locate a problem and I didn't want to get grease and / or dirt on my good expensive slacks or shirt.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (Hw6WF)

19 Never wore running shoes to work.
Nice driving shoes (Cole Hahn) or the like.
Nice jeans or khakis. I love the original BR unwashed (raw) jeans or some (shit forget the name) khakis.
I am a shirt nut. Robert Graham Nate Naste Tori Richards.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (gbOdA)

20 "Kissassery" inorite

Posted by: gKWVE at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (gKWVE)

21 The reason Office Space resonates so well is that we've all had to put up with this kind of crap somewhere at some time. Maybe not everything they faced, but some of it.

(@*&@$!!in' Lumburgh

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (2VST1)

22 Good evening, horde.

What a hilarious, yet maddening, exchange, Buck.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (WIBSw)

23 I love self employment more than ever.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (oXfCm)

24 15 You gotta be quick to work in an Office Space reference around here. LOL
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (Aqu9a)
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Buck's conversation with his boss is just too eerily familiar...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (GlyvH)

Flair baby Flair

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (gbOdA)

25 Be honest, Buck; you just posted an unused Monty Python script.

Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (UCYpC)

26 >17 Do you feel we should have a more professional dress code here?

Yes, the answer is "yes"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (2VST1)

Look how different and individual we all are!!!!!!

*NARRATOR* they are look alike...

Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (BDj+H)

27 In the spring, summer and fall I wear skirts most of the time. I think they are more dignified for older women and they are much cooler in our hot weather.
I stress the comfort factor is I get asked, which is seldom.

Posted by: sal at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (f+FmA)

28 Early in my career, I had been wearing jeans to work all the time. No one ever said anything because everyone was as casual as me.

Then a new boss was appointed over me. The first time I met him, he yelled at me for wearing jeans. Let's just say our relationship went way, way downhill after that.

Also, I worked behind the scenes to get him fired. It was glorious. He never knew how much he was hated in the office.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (GlyvH)

29
Luckily, no one ever commented on my always wearing a collared shirt, slacks and loafers. Either it didn't bother anyone or, more likely, I was beneath notice.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (QnmlO)

30 "Let's all be different together!"

Posted by: Crusader at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (TN0g+)

31 more things change; more they stay the same.

For 70 years to UNIPARTY "Free Speech" has meant
"Call Americans racist; its OK!"

But saying "Americans are good" is not ok.i n fact if you say "America is good"
Adam and liz will throw you in the dungeon. maybe even have the "guards' beat you while there!

Posted by: rodney stanton at April 29, 2025 07:40 PM (saZvQ)

32 We had joy we had fun
We had workplace games in the sun
But the profits that we mined
Were just seasons out of time

Posted by: Terry Jacks at April 29, 2025 07:40 PM (Aqu9a)

33 You gotta be quick to work in an Office Space reference around here. LOL
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (Aqu9a)

—————

It’s not that I’m lazy, it’s that I just don’t care.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 29, 2025 07:40 PM (u73oe)

34 You get asked the craziest stuff by bosses, the conversations can get pretty surreal. Like the guy who insisted that I volunteer for a late night restocking effort at work. I declined to volunteer, which made him tooth-gnashingly enraged but damn it I barely had enough energy to get to work every day. The word volunteer means something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:40 PM (2VST1)

35 6 How many pieces of "flair" did they recommend you wear? The minimum 15? Or was there peer pressure to wear more than that?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (GlyvH)

7 I was rold I could have a stapler
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2025 07:34 PM (VUnvY)

You gotta be quick to work in an Office Space reference around here. LOL

What would you say you do here?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (s8j++)

36 I once worked for a Silicon Valley company. Not in SV, but the company was based there. When I started it was *very* casual. Shorts and T-Shirts weren't uncommon. Not my style. Never has been. I wore my slacks and button-down shirts. I was one of very few. I had a coworker - an eccentric genius who looked like a hobo who lived under a bridge - ask me why I always dressed up. I answered him honestly. I said, "because the only thing standing between me and poverty is this job, and two weeks. I dress to give it the respect it deserves."

He blinked and said, "okay, cool." Never came up again, and I never got pressure from anyone about it. When that company said, "no dress code," they meant it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (WkNQM)

37 20 "Kissassery" inorite
Posted by: gKWVE at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (gKWVE)

Shoot, I found a bug. Do I fix it or do a fake karate kick.

Kick!

Damn, I still need to fix the bug.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (VNX3d)

38 I'd love a dress code/non-dress code chat over one more discussion of psychological safety ever again.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (ftFVW)

39 A good pair of suit pants is 1,000 more comfortable than jeans, and most of the time feels like you're wearing nothing at all.

The convenience of jeans is basically that you can just toss 20 pairs in the machine and be done washing them, while dress pants require dry cleaning (which basically doesn't clean anything)

I can basically wear whatever i want to work, and is prefer suit pants, but choose the convenience of jeans.

Posted by: Rbastid at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (+ABTQ)

40 Psst. The dress code was t-shirt and jeans.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (RIvkX)

41 ME: "I refuse to wear pants."

Posted by: wth at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (v0R5T)

42 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (ypFCm)

43 "PRESIDENT: Some people here feel that your wardrobe makes a judgmental statement about how others dress."

As loath as I am to quote her, it seems appropriate in this situation;

"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent."

--Eleanor Roosevelt

Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 07:42 PM (UCYpC)

44 Buck, that was a hilarious story.

Thank you.

Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 29, 2025 07:42 PM (jvJvP)

45 I resisted wearing business type clothes because in my job at any minute I might have to crawl under some desk or jam myself behind a piece of equipment trying to locate a problem and I didn't want to get grease and / or dirt on my good expensive slacks or shirt.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (Hw6WF)
++++
Makes sense to me. Clothes should be appropriate to the work. If the work gets you dirty, not wearing office clothes seems sensible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:42 PM (WkNQM)

46 If you don't value yourself what good are you?

Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:42 PM (oXfCm)

47 Look how different and individual we all are!!!!!!

*NARRATOR* they are look alike...
Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM

Brian: You're all individuals!

Crowd (in unison): Yes! We are all individuals!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)

48 when I worked at State Farm part time helping them transfer paper files to microfilm (in the 80s), there was a girl who worked there part time as well. She was sun-blindingly gorgeous and wore what was probably sold as a dress but was basically a tee shirt with a belt. I mean, it barely covered her panties.

Soon after starting work there, she met an exec, and started wearing much more modest clothes. She'd hooked her intended man.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (2VST1)

49 *NARRATOR* they are look alike...
Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (BDj+H)

THIS.
My eldest was a bit of a misanthropic rebel in high school.
He and his ilk would gather under the power lines to smoke before class.
A flock of crows couldn't have been more indistinguishable.

Posted by: sal at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (f+FmA)

50 Buck Throckmorton, you are my hero.

Posted by: Eromero at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (UYYJi)

51 15 You gotta be quick to work in an Office Space reference around here. LOL
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:36 PM (Aqu9a)
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Buck's conversation with his boss is just too eerily familiar...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (GlyvH)

Flair baby Flair
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:38 PM (gbOdA)

Wooo!

Posted by: Ric "Nature Boy" Flair at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (Aqu9a)

52 "Everybody in here is wearing a uniform, and don't kid yourselves."

Posted by: Stuff Zappa Said at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (vFG9F)

53 ME: "I refuse to wear pants."
Posted by: wth at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (v0R5T)
++++
I was once at a gas station in rural Missouri where you would not be welcome. Or maybe you went there too often.

It had a hand-scrawled sign taped on the door:
No shirt, no shoes, no pants, no service

I dunno how many pantsless people were going to a gas station at an otherwise empty rural highway exit, but it must've been a lot. So stay away from that place!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (WkNQM)

54 So when on Navy bases as a sub all my subs wore jeans and Ts.
I had about 3 or 4 pairs of heavy khaki style pants (cannot remember brand) and then always ExOffico shirt.
Hotels could not destroy my ExO shirts and they we cool in summer and with a long sleave T (not cotton hate cotton) warm in the winter.
But always a collar.

thx Buck

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (gbOdA)

55 Buck that is a funny story

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (ypFCm)

56 Makes sense to me. Clothes should be appropriate to the work. If the work gets you dirty, not wearing office clothes seems sensible.

I worked in a lab. My uniform was a collared shirt and a pair of Dockers, with old decrepit shoes. Dirt was less of an issue than holes eaten in your clothing.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (s8j++)

57 Be a rebel and a nonconformist just like everyone else.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (VUnvY)

58 I would come to work looking like a hobo, which is my most comfortable attire.

Posted by: Stuff Zappa Said at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (vFG9F)

59 I really should be getting ready for bed but been watching Cincinnati Kid and it's almost over

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (ypFCm)

60 Look how different and individual we all are!!!!!!

*NARRATOR* they are look alike...
Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM

Brian: You're all individuals!

Crowd (in unison): Yes! We are all individuals!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)

I'm not.

Posted by: Old Man at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (Aqu9a)

61 A flock of crows couldn't have been more indistinguishable.

Yeah like the girls all wearing their ugg boots and identical sweaters and jeans, all holding a coffee-shake. They're not like the other girls! They all just wear the same uniform/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (2VST1)

62 when I worked at State Farm part time helping them transfer paper files to microfilm (in the 80s), there was a girl who worked there part time as well.

Let me guess. You wore khakis.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (s8j++)

63 I dunno how many pantsless people were going to a gas station at an otherwise empty rural highway exit, but it must've been a lot. So stay away from that place!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (WkNQM)
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Rejects from the Sunday Morning Book Thread, no doubt.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (GlyvH)

64 Zappa didn't really say that, I did.

Posted by: fd at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (vFG9F)

65 Damn. When I first started out I had to wear a suit each day and I was just a junior programmer. That was kind of tough on my meager budget. I will admit that once casual dress became acceptable, I did not complain.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (mH6SG)

66 Look how different and individual we all are!!!!!!

*NARRATOR* they are look alike...
Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM

Brian: You're all individuals!

Crowd (in unison): Yes! We are all individuals!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (Wnv9h)

I can hear the monotone response.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (VNX3d)

67 I liked Buck, until I found out he wasn't a Team Player. Sad.

Posted by: Workin' Ova Heah at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (G5+As)

68 BR came back out with its linen jeans for the summer, I got a few pairs last year after the season, and the feel like they might finally be a great jean for these disgusting muggy nyc summers.

Posted by: Rbastid at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (+ABTQ)

69 Worked with a Latina woman about 20 years ago who insisted on short skirts and going commando. I knew she preferred to go commando because it was, quite often, the topic du jour at the coffee machine at least twice a week.

She was not particularly attractive. Although, certainly not ugly or overweight. But, that's not what I enjoyed the most about her. What I thought was absolutely hilarious were all the other women in the office making a fuss about it like it was going to lead to catastrophic apocalypse. Women are absolutely brutal sometimes...but mostly when other women are involved in the scenario.

Posted by: Orson at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (dIske)

70 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (2VST1)

Or she was told to do so.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (Vvh2V)

71 I dunno how many pantsless people were going to a gas station at an otherwise empty rural highway exit, but it must've been a lot. So stay away from that place!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:44 PM (WkNQM)
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Rejects from the Sunday Morning Book Thread, no doubt.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (GlyvH)

HAHAHAHAHAH!!

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (g47mK)

72 Ok, last thread was about Nike

Prof. Throckmorton reminded me of when Nike was a client.

Of course coming to work wearing anything other than Nike logo apparel was right out, including me as a consultant. Except for the CFO. Bankers expect suits.

Their long term strategy was very clear-to change the "dress code", or more accurately the "Style culture" in offices and companies to Sports Casual.

A bit before my day, but I know that the guy from Xerox or IBM who came to fix your copier or whatever wore a Suit and tie, white button down shirt.

Things have not gotten better.

Proper business attire is a measure of both professionalism and respect.

Posted by: Miklos applied for Official Old Fart Status at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (IKhKt)

73 Yeah like the girls all wearing their ugg boots and identical sweaters and jeans, all holding a coffee-shake. They're not like the other girls! They all just wear the same uniform/
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:45 PM (2VST1)
++++
Heh. It's uniforms all the way down.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (WkNQM)

74 It had a hand-scrawled sign taped on the door:
No shirt, no shoes, no pants, no service
.....

Wymminz excepted

Posted by: wth at April 29, 2025 07:47 PM (v0R5T)

75 I wear a collared shirt while eating collared greens.

Posted by: A. Collared man at April 29, 2025 07:47 PM (63Dwl)

76 Let me guess. You wore khakis.

Probably? I don't honestly remember. I am old enough to remember when men wore suits to the office job, no matter how humble it was. Every day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:47 PM (2VST1)

77 27 In the spring, summer and fall I wear skirts most of the time. I think they are more dignified for older women and they are much cooler in our hot weather.
I stress the comfort factor is I get asked, which is seldom.
Posted by: sal at April 29, 2025 07:39 PM (f+FmA)

I like African skirts.

Posted by: Sam The Nuke Man at April 29, 2025 07:47 PM (gbOdA)

78 38 I'd love a dress code/non-dress code chat over one more discussion of psychological safety ever again.
Posted by: She Hobbit at April 29, 2025 07:41 PM (ftFVW)

Ugh, yes.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (WIBSw)

79 Buck would have been that lone Kraut at the Nuremberg Rally not heiling.

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (G5+As)

80 Or she was told to do so.

Well they sure took their time to tell her, if so. Weeks.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (2VST1)

81 45 I resisted wearing business type clothes because in my job at any minute I might have to crawl under some desk or jam myself behind a piece of equipment trying to locate a problem and I didn't want to get grease and / or dirt on my good expensive slacks or shirt.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 29, 2025 07:37 PM (Hw6WF)
++++
Makes sense to me. Clothes should be appropriate to the work. If the work gets you dirty, not wearing office clothes seems sensible.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:42 PM (WkNQM)

Yup, but the FIRST time meeting a new client? Business Casual and a nice Tie... even as an IT guy.

Why? Some cultures, especially Indian (dot) and Pakistani are highly classist... and if I met them first in Jeans and a Polo shirt? I was treated like crap... but IF I impressed on the first impression as someone of their class? Treated WAY better.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (QAkQ3)

82 Let’s be independent together!

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (6lvzU)

83 Proper business attire is a measure of both professionalism and respect.

There it is. I have no patience with professors who dress like undergrads, because, "you know, man, I'm cool. They see me as one of them."

Protip: No, no they don't.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (s8j++)

84 When I started wearing long skirts to work ( and stopped wearing jeans), I told some of the women "This is how I dress now." And no one ever said a word about it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (cvWHI)

85 I dunno how many pantsless people were going to a gas station at an otherwise empty rural highway exit, but it must've been a lot. So stay away from that place!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I was once in a collision in front of a gas station with a guy who turned out to be pantsless. To be fair, I think he was also high.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (ftFVW)

86 She was not particularly attractive. Although, certainly not ugly or overweight. But, that's not what I enjoyed the most about her. What I thought was absolutely hilarious were all the other women in the office making a fuss about it like it was going to lead to catastrophic apocalypse. Women are absolutely brutal sometimes...but mostly when other women are involved in the scenario.
Posted by: Orson at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (dIske)]

hitler or bare

Posted by: Sam The Nuke Man at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (gbOdA)

87 If you don't value yourself what good are you?
Posted by: Ben Had

Gotta Val-U-Rite yourself

Posted by: Affordable Miklos at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (IKhKt)

88 Women are absolutely brutal sometimes...but mostly when other women are involved in the scenario.
-----------
You can't ever leave an office or section of an office to be staffed *solely* by women--if you do, there are only 2 possible outcomes:

1). They will turn on each other (civil war); or
2). They will find an adjacent department or division that includes a good cross section of men to butt heads with.

Women do fine so long as there are men present to keep them from the 2 outcomes listed above. But they are beyond petulent in a work environment when left to their own devices.

Posted by: Crusader at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (TN0g+)

89 Kickassery?
Posted by: kallisto

Wiseassery > Dumbassery > Kickassery

Posted by: mikeski at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (DgGvY)

90 off sox

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (gbOdA)

91 Dash and She Hobbit could wear a burlap sack and still exude beauty.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (oXfCm)

92 Embrace the Uncomfortable ...great band name!

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (g47mK)

93 Unkempt, slovenly, and wrinkled is no way to dress for success in your career, son.

Posted by: CEO Wormer in a different timeline at April 29, 2025 07:50 PM (Aqu9a)

94 Why? Some cultures, especially Indian (dot) and Pakistani are highly classist... and if I met them first in Jeans and a Polo shirt? I was treated like crap... but IF I impressed on the first impression as someone of their class? Treated WAY better.

I remember reading an article about the tech gazillionaires who all dressed like hobos to convey that they weren't all stuck up and stuff. Humble. Except they didn't carry a wallet, or keys, or money, or anything. They had people walking behind them to do that.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:50 PM (s8j++)

95 You can't ever leave an office or section of an office to be staffed *solely* by women--if you do, there are only 2 possible outcomes

You left off a third: the place will be redecorated like once every two months

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:50 PM (2VST1)

96 I wore a collared shirt and dress slacks to work for years. I was the best dressed person in the office for most of the time
I would wear boots and a carhart barn coat when I was doing field work, but I found interviewing farm workers in the middle of a field while wearing slacks and a collar with a shirt was far easier than I thought it would be. For one, I was often the most interesting thing that happened to the guys all day.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 07:50 PM (D7oie)

97 Thong Thursdays !

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (/lPRQ)

98 hitler or bare
Posted by: Sam The Nuke Man at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (gbOdA)
________________

I'm going to say Bob Ross. Latina and 20 years ago.

Posted by: Orson at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (dIske)

99 Evenin’. All.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (77rzZ)

100 That is such a good exchange. It should be dialog in a movie about your life.

For the first 30 years of my 'professional' life, I had to wear a suit and tie. I had five different suits for the work week. Then suddenly, we went 'business casual', which just meant slacks and polo shirts. I actually missed the tie.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (jc0TO)

101 My first job out of college was in Silicon Valley. The whole "dress like a slob to prove how important you are to the company" was a big thing then.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (/y8xj)

102 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (2VST1)

Well, all the old biddies were held off by all the guys for as long as possible! 😂

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (Vvh2V)

103 If I had a dress code for my employees I would insist that all chaps be assless.

Posted by: fd at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (vFG9F)

104 I remember reading an article about the tech gazillionaires who all dressed like hobos to convey that they weren't all stuck up and stuff. Humble. Except they didn't carry a wallet, or keys, or money, or anything. They had people walking behind them to do that.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 07:50 PM (s8j++)

and the message is: I am no better than you are, so I owe you NOTHING.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 07:52 PM (D7oie)

105 The President and the CEO were hopelessly distracted by idiotic management gimmicks, and the employees wasted most of their time on peer coaching, team building, accountability training, breakthrough communication, goal setting, etc.

Thus further demonstrating that most corporate "culture" is a) retarded and b) infantilizing.

Posted by: Actually learn how to do the job? Fuck that, we have synergies to attain! at April 29, 2025 07:52 PM (TbWk/)

106 Kickassery?
Posted by: kallisto

Wiseassery > Dumbassery > Kickassery
Posted by: mikeski at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (DgGvY)

There is a Fat Ass Ranch Winery & Brewery outside of Fredericksburg, Texas. True Fact!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:52 PM (Aqu9a)

107
"Everybody in here is wearing a uniform, and don't kid yourselves."
Posted by: Stuff Zappa Said

That's what I say while eating a burnt weenie sandwich.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2025 07:52 PM (63Dwl)

108 I'm going to say Bob Ross. Latina and 20 years ago.
Posted by: Orson at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (dIske)

winter trim

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:52 PM (gbOdA)

109 Let’s be independent together!
Posted by: nurse ratched

Alone Together!

Posted by: Miklos remembers idiotic Covid slogans at April 29, 2025 07:52 PM (IKhKt)

110 My brother Joel was in IT for like 30 years, he wore a suit and tie most of those years. He had to pull up the floor panels and move wiring, etc, but that was the dress code for offices. He took the jacket off to do the electronic work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:53 PM (2VST1)

111 "Thong Thursdays !
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher"

*scribbles notes for new dress code*

Posted by: fd at April 29, 2025 07:53 PM (vFG9F)

112 I'm going to say Bob Ross. Latina and 20 years ago.
Posted by: Orson at April 29, 2025 07:51 PM (dIske)

winter trim
Posted by: rhennigantx

Happy little bush

Posted by: Miklos Bob-Ross at April 29, 2025 07:53 PM (IKhKt)

113 Dash and She Hobbit could wear a burlap sack and still exude beauty.
Posted by: Ben Had

Incidentally, that's what I wore to work today.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 29, 2025 07:54 PM (ftFVW)

114 Great topic Buck. I wore a sport jacket during my last few years at JPMorganChase and had largely the same conversation with my revolving gang of Scrum Masters.

While we are at it, let's enforce a methodology to eliminate useless meetings by scheduling daily meetings to talk about how we have eliminated meetings.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 29, 2025 07:54 PM (vKNmo)

115 As someone who now gets paid to wear pants, I can say I don't miss working at an office.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 29, 2025 07:54 PM (XV/Pl)

116 Let’s be independent together!

I want to be a bold iconoclast. Like everybody else.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 07:54 PM (/y8xj)

117 When I was employed, unless instructed otherwise, I wore a long-sleeved, button-down shirt and khaki pants to my office.

This is not difficult.

Posted by: Bulg at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (77rzZ)

118 I hate polo collar shirts

I like a button up shirt.

I do not own a polo.

Then again I have not been in a real work situation in 5 years.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (gbOdA)

119 What was the "purpose" of the struggling start up. I mean, what would you say they do there?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (63Dwl)

120 When in the office, ours or someone else's, I always wore slacks, a dress shirt and jacket. Just didn't feel comfortable without the jacket. We had almost 40 salesmen in the office initially, Wide variety of dress.

I usually wore company overalls if in the field, still with a dress shirt. People got used to it.

Posted by: javems at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (8I4hW)

121 When my kids got to be HS age, the public school system suddenly wanted to require "uniforms". Mrs928 argued against the notion at the PTA meeting. One of the things we pointed out that the kids already had a uniform, blue jeans and tee-shirts. If they wanted them to all wear matching school shirts that would have been easier than all an all new dress code.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (jc0TO)

122 My working days are over, but God save me from ever having to work in an all female office, ever again.

I am terrified of women in groups like that. Being one offers no protection. I hate the drama and the pettiness.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (Vvh2V)

123 Never been a follower. When people wore polyester I still wear linen and cotton

Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (oXfCm)

124 I hate polo collar shirts

I like a button up shirt.

I do not own a polo.

Then again I have not been in a real work situation in 5 years.
Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (gbOdA)

I bet you don't have a polo pony either, or a mallet.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (VNX3d)

125 91 Dash and She Hobbit could wear a burlap sack and still exude beauty.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM (oXfCm)

Aw, Ben Had. Thank ya, ma'am.

*models burlap sack demurely

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (WIBSw)

126 Someone explain to me the female basketball coaches who insist on sideline coaching in sparkly dresses, heels, and giant hoop earrings. I will never understand that look.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (maV1K)

127 I dunno how many pantsless people were going to a gas station at an otherwise empty rural highway exit, but it must've been a lot. So stay away from that place!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I was once in a collision in front of a gas station with a guy who turned out to be pantsless. To be fair, I think he was also high.
Posted by: She Hobbit

Knew a cop who decided he wasn't going to get out of the cruiser that day. One of the many shops where they get to park the cruiser at home for 'presence'.

He got rear-ended. Wearing full uniform from the waist up. Boxer shorts and rubber slippers down below.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (/lPRQ)

128 All this talk of people looking like hobos makes me wonder what Ace is cooking while on vacation.

Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (UCYpC)

129 Happy little bush
Posted by: Miklos Bob-Ross at April 29, 2025 07:53 PM (IKhKt)

great indian name

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (gbOdA)

130 119 What was the "purpose" of the struggling start up. I mean, what would you say they do there?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2025 07:55 PM (63Dwl)

They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.

Posted by: They were robust, too at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (TbWk/)

131 I'm fortunate enough that I can wear jeans and a t-shirt to a client's office and if they don't like it I really don't gaf.

Posted by: fd at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (vFG9F)

132 Wiseassery > Dumbassery > Kickassery
Posted by: mikeski

I aspire to be Best-in-Class in only one of the three.

Posted by: Modest Miklos uses some MBA corporate jargon for the kids here at April 29, 2025 07:57 PM (IKhKt)

133 ... Of course coming to work wearing anything other than Nike logo apparel was right out, including me as a consultant. Except for the CFO. Bankers expect suits. ..
Posted by: Miklos applied for Official Old Fart Status at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (IKhKt)
++++
Oh yes. Saw it first hand. Major bank. Big problems. Multiple vendors flew in. Our execs briefed us. "Wear a suit. No exceptions."

Start time for the "war room" at their HQ was 09:00 sharp. Everyone is there, except the technical expert from Company X. Company X was also a megacorp.

A bit after noon, expert from Company X comes in. Dirty. Shorts, flip-flops, T-shirt. The other Company X reps were horrified, and so was Bank Executive. Bank Executive lit him up. "You're more than three hours late and you come in like this? What makes you think that's acceptable?"

Guy says, "last night I was on vacation on a boat in the Gulf of Mexico. My boss called me told me to get in the air. You demanded the best. Well, I'm the best. I figured you'd want me here ASAP. I will go to 5th Avenue tonight but I want to get your problem solved."

Yes, he *was* that good. And he bought the suit for day two. Competence can buy a lot of latitude.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 07:57 PM (WkNQM)

134 I worked at a steel mill for a while as an IT consultant. They flat-out told me not to wear suit/tie white-dress-shirts and to never EVER drive beside a truck carrying steel coils on a turn, because if a coil fell off, the recipient had no chance.

Posted by: Nazdar at April 29, 2025 07:57 PM (NcvvS)

135 "You *are* trying to set an image of a certain culture, among your employees and clients/customers, that you are NOT the sort of uptight and 'old school' folks against whom you're competing. What you're suggesting to me is that I should not look like a professional of that sort, and should look hip and casual."

"Oh, and that's exactly why you're going out of business."

Posted by: GWB at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (CJika)

136 Damn. When I first started out I had to wear a suit each day and I was just a junior programmer. That was kind of tough on my meager budget. I will admit that once casual dress became acceptable, I did not complain.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 29, 2025 07:46 PM (mH6SG)

More young men starting out need to know that one can get a decent suit jacket at Goodwill for about $25-$40 and shirts slacks are about as spendy

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (D7oie)

137 126 Someone explain to me the female basketball coaches who insist on sideline coaching in sparkly dresses, heels, and giant hoop earrings. I will never understand that look.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (maV1K)

Maybe respect for the team.
SHow up to play.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (gbOdA)

138 The last two years that I worked, I wore boxers and a tee-shirt.

That Covid work from home was the bee knees.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (jc0TO)

139 fd, if I didn't wear jeans and a t-shirt nobody would recognize me.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (oXfCm)

140 They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too

You got that from the 5 Minute Throck Manager, 1991 edition

Posted by: Miklos makes Allegations at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (IKhKt)

141 I assume the Fat Ass Ranch and the Ram Ranch don't get along well

Posted by: gKWVE at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (gKWVE)

142 models burlap sack demurely

I see that it is a haute couture Sac d'pommes de terre though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (2VST1)

143 I have worked in an office with almost 100% women, and they almost all got along great. Big on "empathy" and "being seen."

Christopher's right about the decorating, though. One of the few real points of contention with these ladies was how often to have birthday cake.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (WIBSw)

144 When I started working at my agency back in the Cretaceous it was full-on IBM with suit, tie, and slacks or dress (but on the traditional sex) with flair being what pocket protector one chose to wear.

By the end it was anything goes, to include cross dressing and onesies. Management stuck to suits, which made the techies avoid adult ensembles at all costs.

Granted, it was mostly t-shirts and jeans, but the occasional wizard robe made an appearance.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (kpS4V)

145
The President and the CEO were hopelessly distracted by idiotic management gimmicks, and the employees wasted most of their time on peer coaching, team building, accountability training, breakthrough communication, goal setting, etc.

_________

That narrows it down to 99.8% of companies.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (QnmlO)

146 when I worked at State Farm part time helping them transfer paper files to microfilm (in the 80s), there was a girl who worked there part time as well. She was sun-blindingly gorgeous and wore what was probably sold as a dress but was basically a tee shirt with a belt. I mean, it barely covered her panties.

Soon after starting work there, she met an exec, and started wearing much more modest clothes. She'd hooked her intended man.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:43 PM (2VST1)

So you're the Jake from State Farm?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (Aqu9a)

147 I distinctly recall interacting with the on-premise IBM CEs. Dressed to the nines in really expensive navy or black suits with white shirts or blouses. Kind of intimidating at first but some of them became pretty good friends as time went by.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (mH6SG)

148 Well off to watch "The Curse of Oak Island". They are getting so close to the treasure.... I can just feel it!!!

Posted by: javems at April 29, 2025 08:00 PM (8I4hW)

149 fd, if I didn't wear jeans and a t-shirt nobody would recognize me.
Posted by: Ben Had

If I didn't wear clothes, nobody would want to.

Posted by: Miklos has made peace with certain Realities at April 29, 2025 08:00 PM (IKhKt)

150 They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM

That's some outside the box thinking right there.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 08:00 PM (jc0TO)

151 The Chinese Tilapia industry is even shedding jobs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2025 08:00 PM (VUnvY)

152 Yup, but the FIRST time meeting a new client? Business Casual and a nice Tie... even as an IT guy.

Why? Some cultures, especially Indian (dot) and Pakistani are highly classist... and if I met them first in Jeans and a Polo shirt? I was treated like crap... but IF I impressed on the first impression as someone of their class? Treated WAY better.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 29, 2025 07:48 PM (QAkQ3)
++++
Cultural issues aside, it also comes back to the respect thing. You always dress well for the customer. If the customer isn't formal, don't wear a suit - you don't want to be *too* much more formal than the customer - but dress up for the customer. Show him you care enough to at least pretend.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:01 PM (WkNQM)

153 128 All this talk of people looking like hobos makes me wonder what Ace is cooking while on vacation.
Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM (UCYpC)
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Pink meth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:01 PM (kpS4V)

154 A zillion years ago, when I was a 26 year old new dentist, I ironed my slacks and button down shirt every morning. I tucked my tie between buttons so about 7-8 inches showed and rolled my sleeves up as a daily ritual. I ended with golf shirts and nice slacks.

By the time I retired half of the patients looked homeless, carrying a giant Mountain Dew.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at April 29, 2025 08:01 PM (KFgDI)

155 They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too at April 29, 2025 07:56 PM

That's some outside the box thinking right there.
Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 08:00 PM (jc0TO)
---
I've never seen a paradigm shifted so well...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 08:02 PM (GlyvH)

156 I'm kinda with 18, above.

used to work with a GM who was a 3-piece-suit guy; we really made an impressive pair, doing impromptu presentations for prospective clients and their test programs ... the Suit, and the guy in jeans and a black t-shirt, who knew about All Of The Things and How To Do Them.
or at least we made it work, bigly, lol

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:02 PM (/Ghsb)

157 The last two years that I worked, I wore boxers and a tee-shirt.

That Covid work from home was the bee knees.
Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 07:58 PM (jc0TO)
++++
I couldn't do it. I found that I need to habits of work to work. I did that kind of thing, and it lasted about a week. All through my work-from-home era, I dressed for work regardless. I had to, because I had difficulty getting into the right head space otherwise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:02 PM (WkNQM)

158 I am Team Casual all the way, but if your skirts are so short people can tell you're going commando, you need to be spoken to, or made to carry a towel to sit on at all times.

I do not want to be wallowing in your effluvium in the break room.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (Vvh2V)

159 Well off to watch "The Curse of Oak Island". They are getting so close to the treasure.... I can just feel it!!!
---------
I think one of the Big Foot shows is really close to catching Big Foot on camera as well. Oh, and one of the ghost shows might get great footage of a ghost too!

I heard a few days ago that "Moonshiners" is still on the air...and I can't imagine why.

Posted by: Crusader at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (TN0g+)

160 One of the few real points of contention with these ladies was how often to have birthday cake.

I worked for the Oregon department of revenue a summer, and I could not figure out why all the women there were so... um, zaftig. Then I realized that they took every CONCEIVABLE excuse to have a party in which everyone brought food for a potluck and more than half of it was incredible desserts, pastries, etc.

Graze on that a couple times a week and you're gonna need 2 chairs to hold you, too.

They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too

That's some outside the box thinking right there.
Posted by: toby928

Why don't you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (2VST1)

161 used to work with a GM who was a 3-piece-suit guy; we really made an impressive pair, doing impromptu presentations for prospective clients and their test programs ... the Suit, and the guy in jeans and a black t-shirt, who knew about All Of The Things and How To Do Them.
or at least we made it work, bigly, lol
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:02 PM (/Ghsb)
++++
The classic technical pairing! It *does* work. At least, it used to. I dunno if it still does.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:04 PM (WkNQM)

162 Why? Some cultures, especially Indian (dot) and Pakistani are highly classist... and if I met them first in Jeans and a Polo shirt? I was treated like crap... but IF I impressed on the first impression as someone of their class? Treated WAY better.
Posted by: Romeo13

My wife's oncologist is either a Paki or Hindu. First time we met, I was in my work clothes (jeans, work boots, polo with co. logo). He treated my wife with very little respect. Next time we met, I was in dress slacks, oxford shirt, no hat.
All of a sudden, she gets a wee bit of respect.
A$$hole

Posted by: MkY at April 29, 2025 08:04 PM (cPGH3)

163 Just to show how ancient I am, when I started working in an office, the saying was 'Dress like your boss's boss'.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 08:04 PM (jc0TO)

164 I had a career where I wore whatever they told me to wear. Every day. They even published a plan called Plan Of The Day.

Posted by: Eromero at April 29, 2025 08:04 PM (UYYJi)

165 I want to be a bold iconoclast. Like everybody else.
Posted by: Oddbob

Hey!

We got the same tats!

Cool!

Posted by: probably not Miklos at April 29, 2025 08:04 PM (IKhKt)

166 Why don't you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (2VST1)

No one ever does.

Posted by: Harvey Danger at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (TbWk/)

167 The lovely Mrs. assumed responsibility over a large department during her career in which all were women except for a very few.

On day one, she walked around and checked things out. On day two, she marched down to "Slut's Row" (her term btw) and sent them home to return asap wearing decent, appropriate clothing. There was a new Sheriff in town now they were going to work.

Most were gone by the end of the month.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (vKNmo)

168 They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too

That's some outside the box thinking right there.
Posted by: toby928

Why don't you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (2VST1)

Let's circle back and drill down on that.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)

169 Most folks are slobs because they are lazy, fat and have no discipline and follow other people and the TV screen for how to dress and act. No one thinks for themselves anymore and it shows. Disgusting. I figure in a few years Crocs and Diapers will be all the rage among the dumb masses as they buy cheap chinese crap from Wally World to fill up their empty existence and their hove around's basket paid for by the government.

Posted by: Wash Your Ass at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (R/m4+)

170 Everybody crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (oXfCm)

171 "Competence can buy a lot of latitude."

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (/Ghsb)

172 models burlap sack demurely

I see that it is a haute couture Sac d'pommes de terre though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 07:59 PM (2VST1)

Idea for Piper's part of next Monday's ONT?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (VNX3d)

173 Let me be frank here, Mr. Throckmorton:

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU MY PREFERENCE IS YOU WEAR JEANS AND SNEAKERS?????!?

Posted by: El Presidente at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (0sNs1)

174 Let's circle back and drill down on that.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM

Bring in all the stakeholders.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (jc0TO)

175 I always dressed the same when I worked from home.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 29, 2025 08:06 PM (cvWHI)

176 >>> "because the only thing standing between me and poverty is this job, and two weeks. I dress to give it the respect it deserves."

I love that!

I worked for the guvmint in DC as one of my first real jobs out of college, and bought a lot of matching dress jackets and skirts and slacks. When I switched to higher Ed, I was poor and just wore what I already had to work every day. A coworker pulled me aside and was like "hey, you can wear jeans on Friday and you can be a little more business casual." I appreciated the advice, but I'd also been taught "dress for the job you want, not the one you have." I still had imposter syndrome as a new employee, and was young and wanted to be taken seriously. It took a while to phase out of suits, but I learned to mix and match business and casual in a way that worked for me.

Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2025 08:06 PM (8b3hM)

177 I just got a letter from my New Mexico state rep. for Las Cruces. The highlights of what my rep. is working on.

Against Housing Discrimination. What this translates to is protection from "income discrimination." Or I as like to call it, the rent is optional part of the lease.

Immigrant Safety Act. This would codify into state law the nullification of federal immigration laws and enforcement. Essentially it is a pro open borders law.

State Enforcement of Immigration Law. This does nothing of the sort. Essentially this one duplicates the previous one. I am impressed with the double down.

Expanding Voting Rights. New Mexico doesn't require any ID to vote so I am not sure how that the current situation can be expanded on. It also gets rid of closed primaries which means she is for taking away the voting rights of the parties to run their primaries as they see fit.

Finally: "Every email, every protest, every meeting, every conversation - that's what makes this work possible. I'll see you in the streets, in the neighborhoods, on the picket lines, and in the movement. In Solidarity [the reps. name]."

In Solidarity. WTH? I am surrounded by Marxists here. SOS.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:06 PM (amnH6)

178 pink meth

I don't want to talk down the competition, dawg, but . . .

Posted by: Jesse Pinkman at April 29, 2025 08:06 PM (gKWVE)

179 Why don't you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (2VST1)
++++
That's no way to turn the ship around! We need to embrace the best elements of the highly-effective Agile and Afterburner strategies to hybridize a new operational framework that lets us delight our customers and build long-term relationships as we partner with them to achieve transformation!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:07 PM (WkNQM)

180 I work/ed in an office. When I go to the office, I wear slacks, a collared shirt, usually a jacket. Infrequently a neck tie. Polished shoes. If you don't take yourself seriously, you cannot expect others to do so.

Posted by: Weasel at April 29, 2025 08:07 PM (Axc90)

181 They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too

That's some outside the box thinking right there.
Posted by: toby928

Why don't you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (2VST1)

Let's circle back and drill down on that.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)

And then we can backfill.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:07 PM (Aqu9a)

182 Dash and She Hobbit could wear a burlap sack and still exude beauty.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 29, 2025 07:49 PM

Properly accessorized, of course. The 'ettes do have fashion standards, in addition to their colors. This is known.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 29, 2025 08:07 PM (0sNs1)

183 By the time I retired half of the patients looked homeless, carrying a giant Mountain Dew.
Posted by: free tibet with purchase

Welcome to your flight!

-all airlines

Posted by: Miklos prefers to drive at April 29, 2025 08:07 PM (IKhKt)

184 I've never seen a paradigm shifted so well...

At the end of the day, it is what it is.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 08:08 PM (/y8xj)

185 >>> I figure in a few years Crocs and Diapers will be all the rage among the dumb masses as they buy cheap chinese crap from Wally World to fill up their empty existence and their hove around's basket paid for by the government.

Wall-E promised me floaty chairs. I'm still waiting on the floaty chairs. Also the hoverboard from back to the future 2 and the transporters from Star Trek. All the sloth!

Posted by: LizLem at April 29, 2025 08:08 PM (8b3hM)

186
I worked in the same department as a paralegal who was, well, overweight (she would have said "fat"). But she wore nice blouses and long skirts that didn't emphasize her weight, her hair was always well arranged and her makeup enhanced her face. The end result was that she looked quite attractive.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2025 08:08 PM (QnmlO)

187 You wore slacks. What a profile in courage.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 29, 2025 08:08 PM (guCHD)

188 I couldn't do it. I found that I need to habits of work to work. I did that kind of thing, and it lasted about a week. All through my work-from-home era, I dressed for work regardless. I had to, because I had difficulty getting into the right head space otherwise.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

I always started my day by putting on my work pajamas.

Posted by: She Hobbit at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (ftFVW)

189 I hate to be the guy that has to bring up externalities when everyone is rolling.

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (jc0TO)

190 Weasel, the polished shoes do count.

Posted by: MkY at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (cPGH3)

191 *fistbump*, Joe!

good times, good times ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (/Ghsb)

192 I've never seen a paradigm shifted so well...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 08:02 PM (GlyvH)

I bet they forgot the clutch, and dropped the tranny.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (VNX3d)

193 I always dressed the same when I worked from home.

The whole "dress in a suit but not wear pants" thing baffled me. Do you... just walk around the house in your boxers normally??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (2VST1)

194 153 Pink meth.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:01 PM (kpS4V)

It comes in pink? You would think somebody would have informed me about this by now. This information will certainly influence my future purchases.

Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (UCYpC)

195 Let's impact the bottom line, put us well into the black!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (Aqu9a)

196 In Solidarity. WTH? I am surrounded by Marxists here. SOS.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram

Yer doin it RONG

"translated from Polish"

Posted by: Miklos and Lech Walesa from Solidarnosc at April 29, 2025 08:10 PM (IKhKt)

197 Hey, Tonypete!

The Blue Danube reopened today.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 08:10 PM (WIBSw)

198 153 Pink meth.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:01 PM (kpS4V)

It comes in pink? You would think somebody would have informed me about this by now. This information will certainly influence my future purchases.
Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (UCYpC)

It's Himalayan!

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:10 PM (Aqu9a)

199 Do you... just walk around the house in your boxers normally??

Oh I think we all know the answer to this. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (vKNmo)

200 " ... because I had difficulty getting into the right head space otherwise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:02 PM (WkNQM) "

for me, that's shaving in the morning. cannot get head to function properly with overnight stubble.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (/Ghsb)

201 This busty brunette in a dress appreciates a man who knows how to dress well:
http://tiny.cc/uj6i001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (WkNQM)

202 The whole "dress in a suit but not wear pants" thing baffled me. Do you... just walk around the house in your boxers normally??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

No. No panties here. Going to the mail does cause a bit of an uproar depending on the time of day.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:12 PM (amnH6)

203 for me, that's shaving in the morning. cannot get head to function properly with overnight stubble.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (/Ghsb)
++++
Lucky you. I can't head at all!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:12 PM (WkNQM)

204 Hey, Tonypete!

The Blue Danube reopened today.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

The Blue Dub is open again? Far out!

Posted by: Tuna at April 29, 2025 08:12 PM (lJ0H4)

205 Do you... just walk around the house in your boxers normally??

Oh I think we all know the answer to this. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (vKNmo)

Not Speedo's, so you can answer the door without getting arrested. If it's good enough for the beach, it's good enough for the delivery person.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 08:12 PM (VNX3d)

206 189 I hate to be the guy that has to bring up externalities when everyone is rolling

such as my skirt, papi?

Posted by: that latina in orson's office at April 29, 2025 08:13 PM (gKWVE)

207 Hey, Tonypete!

The Blue Danube reopened today.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

The actual Danube is only blue on certain days. Unless you use a yellow filter on your camera, most of the time it is rather brown.

Posted by: Miklos with Bad News from Budapest at April 29, 2025 08:13 PM (IKhKt)

208 The Blue Danube reopened today.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

WHAT!!

Shit. And here I am 1000 miles away. Of all the rotten luck.

*Kicks dirt*

Posted by: Tonypete at April 29, 2025 08:13 PM (vKNmo)

209 They were leveraging their core competencies to provide key deliverables to stakeholders.
Posted by: They were robust, too

That's some outside the box thinking right there.
Posted by: toby928

Why don't you run that up the flag pole and see who salutes?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:03 PM (2VST1)

Let's circle back and drill down on that.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:05 PM (kpS4V)

And then we can backfill.

But is the juice worth the squeeze?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 08:13 PM (s8j++)

210 Oh I think we all know the answer to this

And that answer is "no I wear sweats" or something like that. I mean we all joke about not wearing pants but its a joke. It was just putting on an act to wear just the suit jacket, for a joke SEE HA HA HA.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:14 PM (2VST1)

211 for me, that's shaving in the morning. cannot get head to function properly with overnight stubble.

My dad would not leave the house to go put gas in the car without shaving and putting on a button-up shirt. Just one of the many ways in which I do not live up to his example.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 08:14 PM (/y8xj)

212 David Horowitz has passed away.

https://tinyurl.com/ajmh48k6

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 29, 2025 08:14 PM (paSBy)

213 But is the juice worth the squeeze?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 08:13 PM (s8j++)
++++
It better be, or we'll really be behind the 8-ball! You don't get a second bite at the cherry!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:15 PM (WkNQM)

214 I just got a letter from my New Mexico state rep. for Las Cruces. The highlights of what my rep. is working on.

What's that kind of money doing in a Tres Cruces bank?

Posted by: Charley Varrick at April 29, 2025 08:15 PM (R/m4+)

215 Always enjoy Buck's posts.
Same experience working at a startup. A cult and a clown show. I left after 5 months.

Posted by: Coki at April 29, 2025 08:15 PM (Wkrcf)

216 I'm grateful for my earlier "dinosaur days" experience. I learned how to dress for the occasion. I also learned to immaculately slip on a tie in five seconds. I figure that skill kept me from being late for work more than once. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 29, 2025 08:15 PM (mH6SG)

217 re Charlie Kirk on Horowitz -
may the memory of the righteous be a blessing
Horowitz was one of the bravest men in a West which often wasn't as grateful as it should have been.

Posted by: gKWVE at April 29, 2025 08:16 PM (gKWVE)

218 My dad would not leave the house to go put gas in the car without shaving and putting on a button-up shirt

Even those of us who are 29, we grew up fairly casual. It was our parents and grandparents who'd dress up special to go out, then change when they got home. Grandpa wore a suit every time he went out of the house to go somewhere. My mom would wear nice clothes to go shopping. We lost that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:16 PM (2VST1)

219
I think I'll break off with my girlfriend

Her antics are queer, I'll admit

Each time I say, "Darling, I love you"

She tells me that I'm full of ...

Shaving cream, be nice and clean

Shave every day and you'll always look keen

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:16 PM (Aqu9a)

220 Dash, as a 'Ette in good standing, I expect to go there, kick open the door, eat well, drink too much, and to act in a manner that when you leave, the other customers simply roll their eyes.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 29, 2025 08:16 PM (vKNmo)

221 Sad to hear about David

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 08:16 PM (ypFCm)

222 Show him you care enough to at least pretend.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

That applies to some "hers" as well.

Posted by: Miklos sez "hey baby, you 'mind me of my third wife" at April 29, 2025 08:17 PM (IKhKt)

223 I want to thank everyone here for keeping me relatively sane over the last while.

January.... Mom died.
February.....my Uncle Leonard....90. I did a lot for him
.
March.....my computer died. Lost my Microsoft account. That was a gift that kept on giving.

April....Trumpy disappeared last week. My friends' cats. Snowflake and Trumpy would come in around 11am and sleep to about 6pm and I'd let them out.

And the dog Ralphy is limping horribly. I took him for shots for arthritis but it no longer seems to be working.

Tomorrow. New day. There were a few people here going to be cutting down on the booze. I'm joining you tomorrow.

Today was actually pretty nice. My friends had me over for lunch.The kids loved the pictures of their cats in our house. We had eggs, bacon, bread pasta. It was really nice. I haven't had a happy day for so long.

Tomorrow I start recreating my life. My friend is an engineer. Talented as hell. He's building the kids a tree house this week. I'm helping out and doing grunt work.

Snowflake just came in and is resting on the cat tree. I'm not a cat person, but apparently there are exceptions.

Thanks for the help. Tomorrow I start to make the Horde proud.

Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 29, 2025 08:18 PM (jvJvP)

224 220 Dash, as a 'Ette in good standing, I expect to go there, kick open the door, eat well, drink too much, and to act in a manner that when you leave, the other customers simply roll their eyes.
Posted by: Tonypete

Oh, all I have to do is take my husband. He'll take on that role with abandon.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 08:18 PM (WIBSw)

225 Have a great evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at April 29, 2025 08:18 PM (ypFCm)

226 Tomorrow I start recreating my life. My friend is an engineer. Talented as hell. He's building the kids a tree house this week. I'm helping out and doing grunt work

That sounds like a great way to spend time

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (2VST1)

227 Another sign Wal-Mart is circling the toilet, almost anything is allowed as work appropriate attire. So sometimes it is very hard to ID who the workers are.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (Ut2e7)

228 Shave every day and you'll always look keen
Posted by: Count de Monet

That rings a Bell

Posted by: Miklos sings along at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (IKhKt)

229 My Grandpa would wear a suit when he took us to baseball games.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (mH6SG)

230 The talk about the no dress code dress code reminds me of Steve Jobs and Zuckerberg wearing those dingy grey t-shirts.

Posted by: Decaf at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (unUNN)

231 Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 29, 2025 08:18 PM (jvJvP)
++++
Good for you, and good luck! And I am glad Snowflake came in!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (WkNQM)

232 Another sign Wal-Mart is circling the toilet, almost anything is allowed as work appropriate attire. So sometimes it is very hard to ID who the workers are.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Makes it easier to steal stuff

Posted by: Five Finger Miklos at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (IKhKt)

233 201 This busty brunette in a dress appreciates a man who knows how to dress well:
http://tiny.cc/uj6i001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (WkNQM)

As I was clicking the link, I thought to myself, "I know I am going to regret this."

What a pleasant surprise that I did not regret it. Not one bit.

Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (UCYpC)

234 Even better is when the office coven has decided that "we" are presenting the boss / expectant mother / departing employee with card, cake, ice cream, and a gift and your $5 - $10 contribution is expected.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (Aqu9a)

235 G'nite, Skip.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (mH6SG)

236 Another sign Wal-Mart is circling the toilet, almost anything is allowed as work appropriate attire. So sometimes it is very hard to ID who the workers are.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (Ut2e7)
++++
They all wear the vest here. Variety of clothing, but nothing outlandish and the vest is *always* on. Employees are easy to spot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (WkNQM)

237 When on a navy base as a sub…

Do you identify as a nuclear sub?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 29, 2025 08:21 PM (sagpo)

238 Dash, as a 'Ette in good standing, I expect to go there, kick open the door, eat well, drink too much, and to act in a manner that when you leave, the other customers simply roll their eyes.
Posted by: Tonypete

Tonypete, when frequented the Dube was the dark haired foreign looking bartender still there?

Posted by: Tuna at April 29, 2025 08:21 PM (lJ0H4)

239 Do you identify as a nuclear sub?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 29, 2025 08:21 PM (sagpo)
++++
:: sniff ::

poser.

Posted by: Apache Attack Helicopter at April 29, 2025 08:21 PM (WkNQM)

240 Employees are easy to spot.

Hard to find, but easy to spot once you find one, yeah.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:21 PM (2VST1)

241 Thanks for the help. Tomorrow I start to make the Horde proud.

Posted by: Stateless

Hugs, friend. Wanna go to the Blue Dube with us before we all stop drinking?

*seriously, though, you have had trials of late, and I say a prayer for you often.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 29, 2025 08:21 PM (WIBSw)

242 Thanks for the help. Tomorrow I start to make the Horde proud. Posted by: Stateless

Been there the hard way. Now years later, I have a good life; things do get better but you have to make them get better.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:22 PM (amnH6)

243 Another sign Wal-Mart is circling the toilet, almost anything is allowed as work appropriate attire. So sometimes it is very hard to ID who the workers are.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (Ut2e7)
++++
They all wear the vest here. Variety of clothing, but nothing outlandish and the vest is *always* on. Employees are easy to spot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Except when you need one in the paint department.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:23 PM (amnH6)

244 212 David Horowitz has passed away.

https://tinyurl.com/ajmh48k6
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 29, 2025 08:14 PM (paSBy)
A man who spent the rest of his life exposing the enemy ideology he was raised up in. Lion indeed.

Posted by: Eromero at April 29, 2025 08:23 PM (UYYJi)

245 I do not want to be wallowing in your effluvium in the break room.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

I saw Wallowing In Your Effluvium open for Black Tape For A Blue Girl at The Myth in 2002.

https://youtu.be/nUWDOaXkT5g

Posted by: mikeski at April 29, 2025 08:24 PM (DgGvY)

246 I can still get an Office Space reference in.

After you were asked to wear more flair, did you flip off the receptionist? Any customers? The batista?

Posted by: tunakermit at April 29, 2025 08:25 PM (1z2F+)

247 201 This busty brunette in a dress appreciates a man who knows how to dress well:
http://tiny.cc/uj6i001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:11 PM (WkNQM)

As I was clicking the link, I thought to myself, "I know I am going to regret this."

What a pleasant surprise that I did not regret it. Not one bit.
Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 08:20 PM (UCYpC)
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It's a Joe Mannix link, not an Admiral Ackbar link (always check the nic!).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 08:25 PM (GlyvH)

248 Walmart employees flee before I can get to them to ask them anything.

Posted by: Boss Moss at April 29, 2025 08:26 PM (VUnvY)

249 1. Log in to bank website
2. See big red warning triangle with an exclamation point inside of it next to the words "ACCOUNT ALERT"
3. Think, "ah, damn. What fresh hell is this going to be?"
4. Click link
5. "Congratulations! Your interest rate has gone down"

WTF. Pro tip: do *NOT* put the red warning alert on good news. Good grief. This is like that jurisdiction where cops pulled over good drivers to give them gift cards. Don't do that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:27 PM (WkNQM)

250 Another sign Wal-Mart is circling the toilet, almost anything is allowed as work appropriate attire. So sometimes it is very hard to ID who the workers are.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2025 08:19 PM (Ut2e7)
++++
They all wear the vest here. Variety of clothing, but nothing outlandish and the vest is *always* on. Employees are easy to spot.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Except when you need one in the paint department.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:23 PM (amnH6)
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I spent a summer working at a Meijer store in Kalamazoo, Michigan. Our required attire was a white button-down shirt, red vest (provided to us) and a tie. It was a definite contrast to the K-Mart workers down the street.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 29, 2025 08:27 PM (GlyvH)

251 Even better is when the office coven has decided that "we" are presenting the boss / expectant mother / departing employee with card, cake, ice cream, and a gift and your $5 - $10 contribution is expected.
Posted by: Count de Monet

I would offer to match that amount to the 401(k) with the employer.

Posted by: Miklos, essentially unemployable at April 29, 2025 08:28 PM (IKhKt)

252 & g'night everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 29, 2025 08:28 PM (/Ghsb)

253 Lucky you. I can't head at all!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:12 PM

* makes call me sign *

Posted by: Kamala! at April 29, 2025 08:29 PM (Kq6ZB)

254 "Congratulations! Your interest rate has gone down"

Well damn

Posted by: Miklos has a CD at April 29, 2025 08:29 PM (IKhKt)

255 Well damn
Posted by: Miklos has a CD at April 29, 2025 08:29 PM (IKhKt)
++++
LOL. Don't worry. It's still like 15% over prime or something.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:31 PM (WkNQM)

256 I've been doing startups and working remote for the last 30 years. Pants are optional on most days.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2025 08:31 PM (viF8m)

257 Yabba Dabba Poo

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:31 PM (gMWM2)

258 It's a Joe Mannix link, not an Admiral Ackbar link (always check the nic!).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I miss AtC "Victory Tits" links.

Gotta wait for 2026 and vote, I guess.

Posted by: Miklos likes places like that at April 29, 2025 08:31 PM (IKhKt)

259 Wild weather here today. Hot, windy, then storms with hail, then sunny. I hesitate to call it weather chaos -- this is Michigan in the Spring -- but it's hard to plan your garden when it's like Loki and Thor are having a drunken brawl in the heavens.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:32 PM (kpS4V)

260 Wild weather here today. Hot, windy, then storms with hail, then sunny. I hesitate to call it weather chaos -- this is Michigan in the Spring -- but it's hard to plan your garden when it's like Loki and Thor are having a drunken brawl in the heavens.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:32 PM (kpS4V)
++++
Did they ever have a sober brawl?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:33 PM (WkNQM)

261 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at April 29, 2025 08:34 PM (Bd09o)

262 Hey, Zod!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:34 PM (WkNQM)

263 I hate the dress down for interviews (no suit, nice shirt, khaki.) I once went to an interview and realized while reviewing the email in the parking lot that they did not want anyone in a suit. So I took the suit coat off. Easy enough.

Grandpa's favorite cuff links may have been over the line, but fuck that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:34 PM (Mx2pV)

264 I miss AtC "Victory Tits" links.

Gotta wait for 2026 and vote, I guess.

Posted by: Miklos likes places like that at April 29, 2025 08:31 PM (IKhKt

Maybe she'll pull em out for the World Series.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:34 PM (gMWM2)

265 198 153 Pink meth.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2025 08:01 PM (kpS4V)

It comes in pink? You would think somebody would have informed me about this by now. This information will certainly influence my future purchases.
Posted by: tankdemon at April 29, 2025 08:09 PM (UCYpC)

It's Himalayan!
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:10 PM (Aqu9a)

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I thought it was for breast cancer awareness!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 29, 2025 08:35 PM (OGOaV)

266 Hey Joe!

(where you goin' with that gun in yo' hand...)

Posted by: ZOD at April 29, 2025 08:35 PM (Bd09o)

267 Making meth pink would probably be easy enough. Considering what is already in it, it is not like the customers would complain about the dyes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:36 PM (Mx2pV)

268 ZOD IMPERIAL.
Posted by: ZOD

Oh shit

Was just about to cook a burger.

But there will be something to be done.

NOW

Posted by: Miklos is resigned to Fate at April 29, 2025 08:37 PM (IKhKt)

269 Making meth pink would probably be easy enough. Considering what is already in it, it is not like the customers would complain about the dyes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Don't they already have pink bath salts?

Like, is there a difference the customers would notice?

Posted by: Miklos is asking for a Friend at April 29, 2025 08:39 PM (IKhKt)

270 ZOD IMPERIAL.
Posted by: ZOD

Oh shit

Was just about to cook a burger.

But there will be something to be done.

NOW
Posted by: Miklos is resigned to Fate at April 29, 2025 08:37 PM (IKhKt)

Still, it's better than the Lee Iococca Chrysler Imperial.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 29, 2025 08:39 PM (VNX3d)

271 Like, is there a difference the customers would notice?
Posted by: Miklos is asking for a Friend at April 29, 2025 08:39 PM (IKhKt)

No idea. Not my particular poison.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:39 PM (Mx2pV)

272 Grandpa's favorite cuff links may have been over the line, but fuck that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone

Masonic ring

*winks*

Posted by: 14th Degree Miklos at April 29, 2025 08:40 PM (IKhKt)

273 I would give an enthusiastic primer on my annuities to any of these fine ladies, and especially the smiling bubbly miss at 0:42.

https://youtu.be/VbWURxIzAJA

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:40 PM (Aqu9a)

274 Masonic ring

*winks*
Posted by: 14th Degree Miklos at April 29, 2025 08:40 PM (IKhKt)

I think they are just blue glass in a gold setting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:41 PM (Mx2pV)

275 >>Don't they already have pink bath salts?

(Commander, First Heavy Zod Imperial Gorilla Bathsalt Cavalry)

Yes.

Posted by: ZOD at April 29, 2025 08:41 PM (Bd09o)

276 Little Anthony and the Imperials > ZOD IMPERIAL > Chrysler Imperial

Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 08:42 PM (s8j++)

277 Still, it's better than the Lee Iococca Chrysler Imperial.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

The early 60s Imperials (convertible) have long been objects of intense desire.

Well ok, the suicide door Lincolns too.

Posted by: Unrequited Miklos at April 29, 2025 08:42 PM (IKhKt)

278 (Commander, First Heavy Zod Imperial Gorilla Bathsalt Cavalry)

Yes.
Posted by: ZOD at April 29, 2025 08:41 PM (Bd09o)
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I am certain that this is not a type and they are literally salted-up gorillas. Terrifying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:42 PM (WkNQM)

279 Little Anthony and the Imperials > ZOD IMPERIAL > Chrysler Imperial
Posted by: Archimedes at April 29, 2025 08:42 PM (s8j++)

Crab Imperial fits in there somewhere, to the left of center.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 29, 2025 08:43 PM (Aqu9a)

280 The early 60s Imperials (convertible) have long been objects of intense desire.

Well ok, the suicide door Lincolns too.
Posted by: Unrequited Miklos at April 29, 2025 08:42 PM (IKhKt)
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I'd *love* to have a four-door slab-side Continental with a drop top with white leather and red piping. 1964 would be ideal.

:: drools ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:44 PM (WkNQM)

281 I think there's a scene in Office Space that captures this pretty well.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at April 29, 2025 08:44 PM (MZ+PY)

282 Some of the extras were sharp looking cars. And gigantic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (Mx2pV)

283 Loki and Thor:
Did they ever have a sober brawl?

Mead!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (sagpo)

284 Towneplace Suites hotel freezer gin and tonic kinda night. Zod bless Fort Belvoir.

Posted by: ZOD at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (Bd09o)

285 Imperial Margarine > Imperial Stormtroopers > Little Anthony and the Imperials > ZOD IMPERIAL > Chrysler Imperial

Posted by: Let's get imperious at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (TbWk/)

286 I'd *love* to have a four-door slab-side Continental with a drop top with white leather and red piping. 1964 would be ideal.

:: drools ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:44 PM (WkNQM

A motor swap so she doesn't get 6 MPG, but yeah. That's a sexy ass car.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (gMWM2)

287 Electras, not extras.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (Mx2pV)

288 What does Empire Flooring come in?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:46 PM (WkNQM)

289 A motor swap so she doesn't get 6 MPG, but yeah. That's a sexy ass car.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (gMWM2)

Also leaded gas is hard to come by.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:46 PM (Mx2pV)

290 I'd *love* to have a four-door slab-side Continental with a drop top with white leather and red piping. 1964 would be ideal.

:: drools ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Oddly enough (to me) they are getting less expensive.

Dem kids don't want

Too big, too old

Posted by: Unrequited Miklos remains faithful at April 29, 2025 08:46 PM (IKhKt)

291 A motor swap so she doesn't get 6 MPG, but yeah. That's a sexy ass car.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:45 PM (gMWM2)
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Meh. It needs the rumble and the unfiltered exhaust. If I had a car like that, it would be a toy. MPG: irrelevant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:47 PM (WkNQM)

292 Meh. It needs the rumble and the unfiltered exhaust. If I had a car like that, it would be a toy. MPG: irrelevant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:47 PM (WkNQM)

Old money bags Mannix over here!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:48 PM (gMWM2)

293 An engine swap is not cheap either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 29, 2025 08:48 PM (Mx2pV)

294 And Empire Style fashion?

(I learned that apparently, it's pronounced "ahm-peer," at least among some)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:48 PM (WkNQM)

295 Old money bags Mannix over here!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:48 PM (gMWM2)
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Note that I said *if* LOL!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:49 PM (WkNQM)

296 And Empire Style fashion?

(I learned that apparently, it's pronounced "ahm-peer," at least among some)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:48 PM (WkNQM)

And Hots Cakes.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2025 08:49 PM (D7oie)

297 I bought my current PC 8 years ago. Today I bought a new one that costs $200 more than the current one. Both use the same class of parts other than generational differences..

How is that possible?

I anticipated I was going to get whacked on price after Biden's inflection reductions and the current tariff hysertia.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:49 PM (amnH6)

298 Oddly enough (to me) they are getting less expensive.

The year range of the popular cars goes up as people age. Basically retirees and middle aged guys want to buy the cars they always loved as teenagers but couldn't afford. Its moving up into the 80s recently and there's very little in that time period I consider classic from America. Grand National, kinda. The early 80s firebirds maybe? The problem is some of those cars looked great like the C3 corvettes but the cars were just awful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:49 PM (2VST1)

299 And all those Lincolns Frank Cannon crashed about every week in the 70s.

I think they cancelled the show just to preserve a few that were left.

Posted by: Miklos in best William Conrad voice at April 29, 2025 08:50 PM (IKhKt)

300 An engine swap is not cheap either.

Depends on how you acquire the "donor."

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 29, 2025 08:50 PM (lUFok)

301 LOL

Real life Office Space.

Put on more flair.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 29, 2025 08:50 PM (ufFY8)

302 I bought my current PC 8 years ago. Today I bought a new one that costs $200 more than the current one. Both use the same class of parts other than generational differences..

How is that possible?

I anticipated I was going to get whacked on price after Biden's inflection reductions and the current tariff hysertia.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:49 PM (amnH6)
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Same class of hardware and $200 more is more. Things have stopped getting cheaper in computer land (and the tariffs haven't really hit yet).

If you *really* want to spend money, get a high-end graphics card. Or a midrange graphics card. That's where the cash goes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:51 PM (WkNQM)

303 All the plastic corvettes?

I'd take the motor out of them and put it in the Lincoln

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:51 PM (gMWM2)

304 I think they cancelled the show just to preserve a few that were left.

Like how Dukes of Hazzard singlehandedly turned the Charger into a rare car.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:51 PM (2VST1)

305 The problem is some of those cars looked great like the C3 corvettes but the cars were just awful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

A true classic-

https://tinyurl.com/bdzzajrv

Posted by: Miklos has been laughing at this for years at April 29, 2025 08:52 PM (IKhKt)

306 A true classic

Eye candy for the ladies

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:53 PM (2VST1)

307 Yeah, 69 charger is a unicorn now.

Even the GNX is a unicorn.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 29, 2025 08:53 PM (gMWM2)

308 The year range of the popular cars goes up as people age. Basically retirees and middle aged guys want to buy the cars they always loved as teenagers but couldn't afford. Its moving up into the 80s recently and there's very little in that time period I consider classic from America. Grand National, kinda. The early 80s firebirds maybe? The problem is some of those cars looked great like the C3 corvettes but the cars were just awful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:49 PM (2VST1)
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There are a couple. One could make an argument for the Subaru Legacy. And I would argue all day that the AMC Eagle is perhaps the most important car of the decade and I would love to get my hands on a nice one (there aren't any).

The AMC Eagle was a tall station wagon with a bit of ground clearance and all-wheel drive that drove like a car, was great in snow and mud and okay on gentle terrain. Sound familiar? AMC invented the "crossover vehicle" a couple of decades before anyone else figured it out. Now it's practically all that exists. AMC was first. It wasn't even ugly!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:54 PM (WkNQM)

309 NOOD. Have a good night, folks!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:55 PM (WkNQM)

310 AMC had a lot of really great groundbreaking cars, its too bad they were murdered by the big 3.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 29, 2025 08:55 PM (2VST1)

311 If you *really* want to spend money, get a high-end graphics card. Or a midrange graphics card. That's where the cash goes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Graphic card prices are insane. My GC needs are for Photoshop so I don't gain much, if anything, by going for mid to high end cards. This new machine came with a 4060 which is wildly better than what I had.

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:56 PM (amnH6)

312 Posted by: Joe Mannix

Interested in a 1984 Renault/AMC Alliance?

Give you a real deal

Posted by: Miklos Samples Jr. at BR-549 at April 29, 2025 08:57 PM (IKhKt)

313 When T. Rowe Price went business casual (Fridays only!) they produced a dos and don'ts pamphlet with lots of pictures. It was pretty common sense for the most part except for the exhortation that women couldn't wear skorts. I had no idea what skorts were, and the photo they used seemed like a pretty sensible piece of attire to me. No skorts!

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at April 29, 2025 08:57 PM (eb5mD)

314 Emily Kaplan looking like a spinner next to Brady Tchakuk.

Sadly, Ottawa leading the Leafs 1-0 after 2.
Get eliminated already!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 29, 2025 08:58 PM (ufFY8)

315 Graphic card prices are insane. My GC needs are for Photoshop so I don't gain much, if anything, by going for mid to high end cards. This new machine came with a 4060 which is wildly better than what I had.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at April 29, 2025 08:56 PM (amnH6)
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The 4060 is in a weird segment and it's also practically the only thing available at the moment. And if you're not a big gamer and not doing AI, it's probably awesome. If I were in the market, I'd consider it. But I don't game at all and care way more about the media engine and it's good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2025 08:58 PM (WkNQM)

316 I had no idea what skorts were, and the photo they used seemed like a pretty sensible piece of attire to me. No skorts!
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at April 29, 2025 08:57 PM (eb5mD)

Upskirt lobby was probably very powerful there.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 29, 2025 08:59 PM (ufFY8)

317 Huh. How about that?

https://tinyurl.com/ewv3v3nt

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2025 09:01 PM (viF8m)

318 I miss AtC "Victory Tits" links.

Gotta wait for 2026 and vote, I guess.

Posted by: Miklos likes places like that at April 29, 2025 08:31 PM

You didn't bookmark them? What kind of a Moron are you?

Posted by: toby928 at April 29, 2025 09:02 PM (jc0TO)

319 I miss my land yacht; truly comfortable seating with lots of leg room. Modern vehicles may have cool features, but the seating causes pain, and they're cramped, like they were designed for hobo dwarfs.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 29, 2025 09:02 PM (O7YUW)

320 Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 29, 2025 08:18 PM (jvJvP)

You make us proud every day, dear friend. Trumpy is probably just cheating on you. And he isn't cold anymore, so probably doesn't need the indoors as much.

I think you should consider moving in with my husband and I! 🤗

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 29, 2025 09:09 PM (Vvh2V)

321 Don't they already have pink bath salts?
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(Commander, First Heavy Zod Imperial Gorilla Bathsalt Cavalry)

Yes.

I'm such a dork that the first time I heard them talking about "bath salts" on the news, I thought they were talking about, ya know, bath salts.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 29, 2025 09:11 PM (/y8xj)

322 That conversation sounds very much like the 15 pieces of flare discussion in Office Space

Posted by: Lex at April 29, 2025 09:30 PM (MYYw0)

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