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Earlier this month, Bloomberg published an article about declining male enrollment in American colleges and universities. They weren't alone - the story was also available on wire services and popped up on various newspapers - but Bloomberg's article was notable in how messy it is and what it attempts to raise in reader's mind - and what it attempts to have the reader never consider.
The pattern usually goes like this: state some facts, state some more tangentially-related or unrelated facts, stoke some fear and depend on nobody saying to himself, "wait a moment, what's missing? Are these things actually related? Why is this article trying to scare me?" We see this all the time in the American press.Men opting out of college isn't a new phenomenon: Women have outnumbered men in undergraduate enrollment for about 40 years, and the gap continues to widen. Almost half of women age 25-34 have earned a bachelor's degree, according to Pew Research Center data; for men the rate is 37%. Between 2011 and 2022, the number of Americans attending college dropped by 1.2 million, with men accounting for almost the entirety of that drop.
As US men forgo higher education, the demographic group as a whole has lost ground in other areas too. Working-class men today are less likely to be employed than they were four decades ago, their inflation-adjusted wages have barely budged in more than 50 years ... Men with a college degree or higher still earn roughly 200% of what men without a diploma do, census data show.
Those are interesting comparisons. Can you spot a missing fact? One that stands out immediately is: "how was 'working class male' employment 40 years ago versus college education rates?" Bloomberg has made an assertion that "working-class men" have a bad deal, and it's because of falling college attendance creating too many "working-class men." Did it? Let's see.
In 1965, around 13%-15% of men aged 25 to 64 had a college degree. Looking at birth years of 1935-1950, we see soaring higher ed, with male degree attainment in those birth cohorts moving from between about 22% to about 32%. So degree attainment was quite a bit lower than it is today at the end of the period, but not by as much as you might think based on the scary headlines. According to a 2017 study, "blue-collar" employment fell by more than half in terms of total employment as compared to the 1970s. So is the problem "men aren't going to college anymore" as Bloomberg asserts, or is the problem "employment prospects suck for non-white-collar people" as the data indicate? The two are not wholly unrelated. If there are fewer blue-collar jobs, it would be good to pursue a white-collar job if you can, and that means college. Bloomberg, however, after framing the argument, fails to discuss the broader historical picture. Instead, they go for scare tactics. This is under the ellipse in the first quote:... they're less prone to get married or have children, and an increasing number report having no close friends. Men are also four times more likely than women to die by suicide. Data show that men age 18-30 spent an average of 6.6 nonsleeping hours alone each day in 2023, 18% more than they did in 2019 and over an hour more than women did, according to a report by the Aspen Economic Strategy Group.Not only are they poor and underemployed, they're lonely and suicidal and it's because they didn't go to college! Bloomberg also spends hardly any time on the cost problem. This article spends one paragraph plus a single quote from a high school student on the cost problem with college. It spends four paragraphs - plus an insert quote - on YouTube and social media "influencers" (and Trump, of course) conspiring to get men to reject college. It would all be fine if it weren't for those meddlers on YouTube and in the Oval Office! They also claim - in another three paragraphs - that men skip out on college because they're bored and it takes too long and there's too much bias in favor of instant gratification. A few words on needing a mortgage to go to college, literally nothing about education quality, and a pint of digital ink on "influencers" and "boredom" with a chaser of "you'll be miserable and suicidal if you don't go." No. Men aren't increasingly lonely because they're not going to college. Blue collar jobs didn't vanish because not enough men went to college. Marriage rates aren't declining because not enough men go to college. Birth rates aren't approaching fertility trap territory because not enough men go to college. Bloomberg wants you to think those things, using the oldest trick in the book. The data they provide are unrelated, and the data they choose not provide are related. All of those key metrics were better when male educational attainment was lower. But college - whether men go or not - is not the core problem. The problems described in the article - declining male enrollment, declining blue collar career prospects, declining marriage, declining reproduction, high loneliness, male suicide, etc. - are real but they are far less tightly correlated to the enrollment changes than Bloomberg wants to acknowledge. These are broad social problems that can't be boiled down to "foolish young men who spend too much time on YouTube aren't going to college because evil influencers tell them not to and they think it might be boring" or likewise boiled down to "men going to college collapses marriage and birth rates and the industrial economy." The attempt to pin all our problems on declining enrollment is insane, and there is one line in the article that exposes what Bloomberg is really concerned about:
Returning Gen X students such as Wilson won't be enough to keep higher ed afloat.Ah, there it is. Can't be having colleges fail because they priced themselves out of the market and drove away half their customers by offering poor value and low quality and a bad experience. Instead, get those young men to do their duty and go to college by making them (or, more likely, their parents) think they'll be underemployed, poor, lonely and suicidal if they don't. Gotta save the higher ed racket at all costs. This article is egregious, but it isn't really special. This is how the press works and, despite the press' declining influence, it remains fairly effective.
Comments
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Kolidge is for chicks.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:32 PM (pMi6S)
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Before this thread gets going... This morning, I read through the FOIA thread from yesterday.
Upon review, I was an ass, particularly to Harry, but also to Joe, whose thread it was.
I apologize to you both.
Upon review, I was an ass, particularly to Harry, but also to Joe, whose thread it was.
I apologize to you both.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:33 PM (oSeBJ)
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Walk around the UC Berkeley "Cal" campus any random day --75% of the student body is Asian females.
The stats are real.
The stats are real.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:34 PM (pMi6S)
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If colleges were actually concerned about "looking like America!" they'd have long ago done something about the massive overbalance of females on campus.
That they don't gives away the game.
That they don't gives away the game.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:34 PM (N1tpc)
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Read the content. Rookie mistake.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2025 03:34 PM (kgE5c)
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Noodled.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 03:35 PM (VNX3d)
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Who needs stupid men anyway, right?
Posted by: Feminists at May 01, 2025 03:35 PM (Hkcdp)
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3 Walk around the UC Berkeley "Cal" campus any random day --75% of the student body is Asian females.
The stats are real.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:34 PM (pMi6S)
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Best to go the University of Tennessee and have a good time with some southern belles.
The stats are real.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:34 PM (pMi6S)
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Best to go the University of Tennessee and have a good time with some southern belles.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:35 PM (GBKbO)
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If colleges were actually concerned at “looking like America” they wouldn’t be accepting to dang many foreign students. Columbia is over 40% foreign students— WTF?
Posted by: Feminists at May 01, 2025 03:37 PM (Hkcdp)
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Its not "conservative economics" but I'd like to see Trump mandate a maximum cost for college of $10K per year for American citizens.
Play with federal aid to force them to comply.
Note, most colleges could do this pretty easily though it would mean firing most of the non-teaching staff.
Play with federal aid to force them to comply.
Note, most colleges could do this pretty easily though it would mean firing most of the non-teaching staff.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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NY Post headline - Kilmar Abrego Garcia bragged he could kill his wife and get away with it, she claimed in newly unearthed protective order request
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 03:37 PM (Dv3i1)
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I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that since 2009 and obama changing the rules males on college campuses were fair game for any female to claim they had raped them.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2025 03:38 PM (e5NfL)
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This is a great thread for one of my Nearsider-isms.
"'Equal,' and 'identical,' are not synonyms."
In the great drive to convince (at least) two generations of boys that they're just defective females, we've deliberately created an entirely new set of concerns which, of course, the government has set out to fix.
Entirely ignoring that government intervention is what created these problems in the first place...
"'Equal,' and 'identical,' are not synonyms."
In the great drive to convince (at least) two generations of boys that they're just defective females, we've deliberately created an entirely new set of concerns which, of course, the government has set out to fix.
Entirely ignoring that government intervention is what created these problems in the first place...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:38 PM (oSeBJ)
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When I was a kid I got no respect. I had no friends. I remember the see-saw, I had to keep runnin' from one end to the other
When I was a kid I got no respect. I had no friends. I remember the see-saw, I had to keep runnin' from one end to the other
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 01, 2025 03:38 PM (5hfjS)
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10 Its not "conservative economics" but I'd like to see Trump mandate a maximum cost for college of $10K per year for American citizens.
Play with federal aid to force them to comply.
Note, most colleges could do this pretty easily though it would mean firing most of the non-teaching staff.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Just end government backed loans and let private student loans be dischargeable in bankruptcy with a provision that some material percentage of the bankrupted cost has to be paid by the college that accepted the loans.
Play with federal aid to force them to comply.
Note, most colleges could do this pretty easily though it would mean firing most of the non-teaching staff.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:37 PM (t0Rmr)
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Just end government backed loans and let private student loans be dischargeable in bankruptcy with a provision that some material percentage of the bankrupted cost has to be paid by the college that accepted the loans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
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Good Afternoon.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2025 03:39 PM (SYD5S)
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So how does the decline in male usefulness and attainment correlate to race and its various population trends?
I mean since all the Left ever fucking talks about is race, I'm sure the article has some very interesting things to note about it. Just go to the article and do a ctrl-F for "white", "black", "hispanic" and "asian" and let me know what you find.
I mean since all the Left ever fucking talks about is race, I'm sure the article has some very interesting things to note about it. Just go to the article and do a ctrl-F for "white", "black", "hispanic" and "asian" and let me know what you find.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:39 PM (M/tYi)
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I think that higher education peaked in the naughties and is in a decline now, because it got too expensive and has such awful payoff. You go into debt 100+ thousand dollars in order to learn about how bad white men are and how we need to destroy our culture?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 03:39 PM (2VST1)
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Study findings include:
More than 75 percent of students at two-year colleges and more than 50 percent of students at four-year colleges do not score at the proficient level of literacy. This means that they lack the skills to perform complex literacy tasks, such as comparing credit card offers with different interest rates or summarizing the arguments of newspaper editorials.
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Get yourself into high debt and still come out dumb as a rock. Sounds like a great deal.
More than 75 percent of students at two-year colleges and more than 50 percent of students at four-year colleges do not score at the proficient level of literacy. This means that they lack the skills to perform complex literacy tasks, such as comparing credit card offers with different interest rates or summarizing the arguments of newspaper editorials.
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Get yourself into high debt and still come out dumb as a rock. Sounds like a great deal.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (/U5Yz)
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The Marxist term “working class” must go. The implication is that rich people do not work which is why we should all hate them.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (eNdzY)
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OK, read the content. Left out of the entire discussion is that universities are nothing but indoctrination centers anyway, so the declining male erollment rate in colleges is a GOOD thing frankly.
If getting a peice of paper to enable hire wages comes at the price of contracting the communist brain virus, then it isn't worth it. Earn less but with a clear kind and an intact soul.
If getting a peice of paper to enable hire wages comes at the price of contracting the communist brain virus, then it isn't worth it. Earn less but with a clear kind and an intact soul.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (pMi6S)
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Like a bullfighter, the press needs you to focus on the red cape so that it can divert you from the target.
Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (KtPtl)
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One "conservative" way to fix colleges and universities has a few interlocking components:
1) No federal student grants.
2) The institution must co-sign any student loan its students receive.
3) All student visas are revoked, and none are issued for at least four years.
4) All visas for university staff are revoked, and none are issued for at least four years.
1) No federal student grants.
2) The institution must co-sign any student loan its students receive.
3) All student visas are revoked, and none are issued for at least four years.
4) All visas for university staff are revoked, and none are issued for at least four years.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (VNX3d)
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clear kind = clear mind
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (pMi6S)
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So that’s it — the overdue admission that men are absent from colleges is simply to keep schools afloat?
I guess they’ve finally figured out that men have value.
Exit question: Hey Bloomberg, did you evaluate the population growth and change in campus administrators????
I guess they’ve finally figured out that men have value.
Exit question: Hey Bloomberg, did you evaluate the population growth and change in campus administrators????
Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2025 03:41 PM (Hkcdp)
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flood the job market with H1Bs and immigrants
meanwhile, colleges raise tuition far outpacing inflation and an entire generation gets mired in debt with little return
limit grants and scholarships to women (even though they have outnumbered men at college for decades) and DEI
oh no, men aren't going to college!
meanwhile, colleges raise tuition far outpacing inflation and an entire generation gets mired in debt with little return
limit grants and scholarships to women (even though they have outnumbered men at college for decades) and DEI
oh no, men aren't going to college!
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 03:41 PM (jGJov)
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The Marxist term “working class” must go. The implication is that rich people do not work which is why we should all hate them.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (eNdzY)
I'm not sure now is a good time to get people to stop hating the rich.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (eNdzY)
I'm not sure now is a good time to get people to stop hating the rich.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (M/tYi)
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Just end government backed loans and let private student loans be dischargeable in bankruptcy with a provision that some material percentage of the bankrupted cost has to be paid by the college that accepted the loans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
I like this idea much better. I’d imagine if the student loan program was fully privatized, we’d see the purging of a lot of degrees offered by colleges and universities.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
I like this idea much better. I’d imagine if the student loan program was fully privatized, we’d see the purging of a lot of degrees offered by colleges and universities.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (eNdzY)
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The lower male enrollment in college has another problem.
Since there are fewer men in college it leads the female population in those colleges to have to compromise which means more sex and less relationship stuff.
And worse yet those men in college are more leftwing then average so they are getting a high portion of leftwing sneaky f*ckers.
So when you hear these women say things like "all men are rapists" its because the one guy they know*, who is in their feminist club had sex with all of them and not necessarily consensually.
*The science/math students don't count because they don't move in the same social circles as people pursuing less rigorous degrees like teaching or English....
Since there are fewer men in college it leads the female population in those colleges to have to compromise which means more sex and less relationship stuff.
And worse yet those men in college are more leftwing then average so they are getting a high portion of leftwing sneaky f*ckers.
So when you hear these women say things like "all men are rapists" its because the one guy they know*, who is in their feminist club had sex with all of them and not necessarily consensually.
*The science/math students don't count because they don't move in the same social circles as people pursuing less rigorous degrees like teaching or English....
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (M/tYi)
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I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that since 2009 and obama changing the rules males on college campuses were fair game for any female to claim they had raped them.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2025 03:38 PM (e5NfL)
A few years back, I had an exchange with a new female employee I'd hired.
She checked in, and I was showing her around the shop - where to go for certain things, the bathrooms, et al. I asked if she wanted to grab a coffee from the ground floor and she said yes.
The elevator came, and there was nobody on it. I told her to take it, and that I'd take another one.
When we got back, she accused me of being sexist because I wouldn't deign to ride the elevator with a woman. I told her that I chose not to because she could destroy me if I did. "If you told HR I smacked your ass, no amount of truth would save my job. I might even end up in prison. So no, until we know each other better, I won't ride the elevator with a woman I don't know."
She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2025 03:38 PM (e5NfL)
A few years back, I had an exchange with a new female employee I'd hired.
She checked in, and I was showing her around the shop - where to go for certain things, the bathrooms, et al. I asked if she wanted to grab a coffee from the ground floor and she said yes.
The elevator came, and there was nobody on it. I told her to take it, and that I'd take another one.
When we got back, she accused me of being sexist because I wouldn't deign to ride the elevator with a woman. I told her that I chose not to because she could destroy me if I did. "If you told HR I smacked your ass, no amount of truth would save my job. I might even end up in prison. So no, until we know each other better, I won't ride the elevator with a woman I don't know."
She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)
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2 Before this thread gets going... This morning, I read through the FOIA thread from yesterday.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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There are problems with FOIA as conceptualized and part of it is that if you try to scrutinize behavior more, they simply go off record via a multitude of messaging apps nowadays even places like Discord.
And yes, part of that issue is nat sec in nature with its overclassification of everything.
It is also the problem that FOIA is essentially an unfunded mandate for agencies and as such extremely low on the priority list.
There is also the fact that agencies simply do not have good paperwork/email/data management practices and thus finding information becomes something requiring people like DOGE data managers rather than the ill equipped staffs at these agencies.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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There are problems with FOIA as conceptualized and part of it is that if you try to scrutinize behavior more, they simply go off record via a multitude of messaging apps nowadays even places like Discord.
And yes, part of that issue is nat sec in nature with its overclassification of everything.
It is also the problem that FOIA is essentially an unfunded mandate for agencies and as such extremely low on the priority list.
There is also the fact that agencies simply do not have good paperwork/email/data management practices and thus finding information becomes something requiring people like DOGE data managers rather than the ill equipped staffs at these agencies.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (ctrM5)
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I'm not sure now is a good time to get people to stop hating the rich.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (M/tYi)
Yeah, but envy is an absolutely stupid emotion. It has killed millions, if not billions, and for what?
Quit getting pissed off at people for simply making a penny more than you do a year.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (M/tYi)
Yeah, but envy is an absolutely stupid emotion. It has killed millions, if not billions, and for what?
Quit getting pissed off at people for simply making a penny more than you do a year.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:43 PM (eNdzY)
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some material percentage of the bankrupted cost has to be paid by the college that accepted the loans.
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The college should co-sign the loan.
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The college should co-sign the loan.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 03:43 PM (Dv3i1)
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No respect at all. When I was a kid I got no respect. I played hide and seek. They wouldn't even look for me
No respect at all. When I was a kid I got no respect. I played hide and seek. They wouldn't even look for me
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (5hfjS)
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34 some material percentage of the bankrupted cost has to be paid by the college that accepted the loans.
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The college should co-sign the loan.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 03:43 PM (Dv3i1)
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A much cleaner way to explain my disorganized mind-thoughts.
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The college should co-sign the loan.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 03:43 PM (Dv3i1)
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A much cleaner way to explain my disorganized mind-thoughts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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Your analysis completely skips over the fact that one has to go to college to find sexually promiscuous hot girls. I have it on good authority from any number of ...spicy...websites.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (s8j++)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (sTuNG)
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37 Your analysis completely skips over the fact that one has to go to college to find sexually promiscuous hot girls. I have it on good authority from any number of ...spicy...websites.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (s8j++)
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Why when there are horny milfs down the street?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (s8j++)
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Why when there are horny milfs down the street?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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7 Who needs stupid men anyway, right?
Posted by: Feminists at May 01, 2025 03:35 PM (Hkcdp)
I'd stick with the smart ones, myself.
Posted by: Feminists at May 01, 2025 03:35 PM (Hkcdp)
I'd stick with the smart ones, myself.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (a4NoL)
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Instead of "male college enrollment", I wonder how all those statistics graphed to "female workforce participation."
I'm betting a clear and obvious inverse relationship.
Increasing the workforce means that each individual worker is less valuable, making wages stagnate.
Now a working class family, to have the same standard of living a similar family had in the 1970s, needs two incomes to survive.
So, we decrease their value as a worker, we decrease their value to the family as a breadwinner, we decrease their value to potential spouses and start wondering why there is a problem with lonliness, suicide, lack of family formation, lack of children, etc...
I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
I'm betting a clear and obvious inverse relationship.
Increasing the workforce means that each individual worker is less valuable, making wages stagnate.
Now a working class family, to have the same standard of living a similar family had in the 1970s, needs two incomes to survive.
So, we decrease their value as a worker, we decrease their value to the family as a breadwinner, we decrease their value to potential spouses and start wondering why there is a problem with lonliness, suicide, lack of family formation, lack of children, etc...
I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (N1tpc)
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There are an incredible number of academic scholarships that are for women only.
There are zero academic scholarships for men only.
If people are really serious about men in college they need to make it equal.
There are zero academic scholarships for men only.
If people are really serious about men in college they need to make it equal.
Posted by: Chemist at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (HJMJw)
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Why when there are horny milfs down the street?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
Will they pay for drinks?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
Will they pay for drinks?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (/U5Yz)
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Quit getting pissed off at people for simply making a penny more than you do a year.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:43 PM (eNdzY)
Oh no, I'm pissed at them for being uppity leftard scum.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 03:43 PM (eNdzY)
Oh no, I'm pissed at them for being uppity leftard scum.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (M/tYi)
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Hiya, all! And no worries, Washington Nearsider. Most of what you wrote is valid and my initial conception was half-baked. I still like the idea of publish-by-default, though, and think it could be made to work.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (WkNQM)
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Overturn Griggs v Duke Power. Intelligent, loyal and honest men are still in demand. Companies would love to recruit directly. College is the cost to get an interview. No reason for that level of stupid. My guess is we love us some debt slaves.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (pZ64F)
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9 If colleges were actually concerned at “looking like America” they wouldn’t be accepting to dang many foreign students. Columbia is over 40% foreign students— WTF?
Posted by: Feminists
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Foreign students often are paying the full ride of tuition, fees, etc. (or various exchange programs, AID, etc. were doing so for them). Domestic is basically a price discriminatory model where ability to pay and whether they want that 'demo' as a student.
Posted by: Feminists
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Foreign students often are paying the full ride of tuition, fees, etc. (or various exchange programs, AID, etc. were doing so for them). Domestic is basically a price discriminatory model where ability to pay and whether they want that 'demo' as a student.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:46 PM (ctrM5)
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I read somehow - probably X - that something like 25% of CA state college scholarship funds are being lost to fraud. The scammers have figured out how to get the money, then drop out.
So much needs to happen regarding the cash cows that colleges have become, because it’s probably just as bad as AUAID with the fraud, graft, and waste on do-nothing jobs that simply exist to scoop up money.
So much needs to happen regarding the cash cows that colleges have become, because it’s probably just as bad as AUAID with the fraud, graft, and waste on do-nothing jobs that simply exist to scoop up money.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2025 03:46 PM (Hkcdp)
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Today’s earlier threads remind me: Before Urban Dict and AoSHq, everything I knew about kinky s_x came from Episcopal Sunday School and the New England Journal of Medicine.
Posted by: Fenderbender at May 01, 2025 03:46 PM (1FEc1)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 01, 2025 03:46 PM (C4BAC)
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I remember a college girlfriend of mine told me she toured a very leftwing women's college while deciding where to go. The tour guide, who was a student there, told the group "We don't need men here for anything [wink wink nudge nudge]" which led my later girlfriend to drop that college from her list
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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There are zero academic scholarships for men only.
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The Rhodes Scholarship was until the paid managers of it decided Rhodes sucked.
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The Rhodes Scholarship was until the paid managers of it decided Rhodes sucked.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (pZ64F)
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If people are really serious about men in college they need to make it equal.
Posted by: Chemist at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (HJMJw)
Why would they be serious about it. It's easier to turn a woman into a lifelong commie in college so why should a man ever take up that space?
Posted by: Chemist at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (HJMJw)
Why would they be serious about it. It's easier to turn a woman into a lifelong commie in college so why should a man ever take up that space?
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (M/tYi)
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There was some bullshit statistic that one out of four women in college had been raped. And yet, parents are sending an overwhelming number of women to college. I think most statistics are pulled out of someone's backside, including the use of them in this article.
Plus, you can make beaucoup bucks as a welder or a plumber these days. No college necessary, and State of Alaska even provides pre-training and access to apprenticeships. I suspect other states are the same.
Plus, you can make beaucoup bucks as a welder or a plumber these days. No college necessary, and State of Alaska even provides pre-training and access to apprenticeships. I suspect other states are the same.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (a4NoL)
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>>> Women have outnumbered men in undergraduate enrollment for about 40 years...
C. 1985 we called it MRS degree.
C. 1985 we called it MRS degree.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (/lPRQ)
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Be good kiddies.
Drink your Koolaidge.
Drink your Koolaidge.
Posted by: irright at May 01, 2025 03:48 PM (SchQD)
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The Rhodes Scholarship was until the paid managers of it decided Rhodes sucked.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (pZ64F)
Rhodes? Where were going, we don't need Rhodes.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (pZ64F)
Rhodes? Where were going, we don't need Rhodes.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2025 03:48 PM (M/tYi)
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... Now a working class family, to have the same standard of living a similar family had in the 1970s, needs two incomes to survive.
So, we decrease their value as a worker, we decrease their value to the family as a breadwinner, we decrease their value to potential spouses and start wondering why there is a problem with lonliness, suicide, lack of family formation, lack of children, etc... ...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (N1tpc)
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I think the causality might be inverted in the first part of that.
Women entered the workforce en masse in the 70s as a result of need first, not desire first. A lot of Boomer women were all about girl-bossing, but it wasn't yet the default standard.
Inflation destroyed wages. Wives went to work to help out the family. That *did* help in the immediate term, but helped compound things silently in the long term. And the bad behavior helping to drive inflation - that is, unchecked government spending a severing of ties between the federal budget and economic reality - continued unabated, too.
So, we decrease their value as a worker, we decrease their value to the family as a breadwinner, we decrease their value to potential spouses and start wondering why there is a problem with lonliness, suicide, lack of family formation, lack of children, etc... ...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (N1tpc)
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I think the causality might be inverted in the first part of that.
Women entered the workforce en masse in the 70s as a result of need first, not desire first. A lot of Boomer women were all about girl-bossing, but it wasn't yet the default standard.
Inflation destroyed wages. Wives went to work to help out the family. That *did* help in the immediate term, but helped compound things silently in the long term. And the bad behavior helping to drive inflation - that is, unchecked government spending a severing of ties between the federal budget and economic reality - continued unabated, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:48 PM (WkNQM)
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I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
People were promised basically twice the income and don't worry daycare/schools would raise your kids better then you could.
And...what ended up happening is salaries were halved and the daycares/schools ended up producing illiterate hoodlums.
I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
People were promised basically twice the income and don't worry daycare/schools would raise your kids better then you could.
And...what ended up happening is salaries were halved and the daycares/schools ended up producing illiterate hoodlums.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:48 PM (t0Rmr)
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Yeah,, when I was a kid I got no respect. When I went on the roller coaster, my old man told me to stand up straight
Yeah,, when I was a kid I got no respect. When I went on the roller coaster, my old man told me to stand up straight
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at May 01, 2025 03:49 PM (5hfjS)
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(insert College has risen in cost faster than medical care here)
Posted by: Francis at May 01, 2025 03:49 PM (bbuBP)
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Maybe they could ask my 21 year old son why he opted for trades vs college, even though he had a higher than 4.0 GPA and was quite well rounded in high school - 4 yr volleyball co-captain, class VP, 4 years in drama productions, etc. He applied to several colleges and was either waitlisted or offered alternate campus slots. If you say it had anything to do with the demographic boxes he DIDN'T check - well, you're a sexist and racist bigot. You're also probably correct, though.
Anyway, he's kicking ass as an HVAC apprentice and making seriously good coin. So eff you, college cartels.
Anyway, he's kicking ass as an HVAC apprentice and making seriously good coin. So eff you, college cartels.
Posted by: Doof at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (vf0Y9)
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46 Overturn Griggs v Duke Power. Intelligent, loyal and honest men are still in demand. Companies would love to recruit directly. College is the cost to get an interview. No reason for that level of stupid. My guess is we love us some debt slaves.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Can't do that by statutory interpretation. Either Scotus makes a constitutional ruling that the 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause forbids it or Congress has to change the law itself.
Basically any statute gets one facial interpretation by Scotus with the premise if the legislature doesn't like it, it can change the law. Subsequent as applied challenges can and do occur but the main doctrine stays put until either Scotus or Congress acts to kill it.
Disparate impact was written into a renewal of Civil Rights statutes to codify Griggs during the 1990's by a Dem Congress and GHWB.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Can't do that by statutory interpretation. Either Scotus makes a constitutional ruling that the 14th Amendment Equal Protection clause forbids it or Congress has to change the law itself.
Basically any statute gets one facial interpretation by Scotus with the premise if the legislature doesn't like it, it can change the law. Subsequent as applied challenges can and do occur but the main doctrine stays put until either Scotus or Congress acts to kill it.
Disparate impact was written into a renewal of Civil Rights statutes to codify Griggs during the 1990's by a Dem Congress and GHWB.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (ctrM5)
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Men are also four times more likely than women to die by suicide.
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Imagine the hundreds of billions of dollars spent in constant ad campaigns, research, and interventions in trying to prevent this if the sexes were reversed.
As it is? Probably not even 1 in 10 people know it's even happening.
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Imagine the hundreds of billions of dollars spent in constant ad campaigns, research, and interventions in trying to prevent this if the sexes were reversed.
As it is? Probably not even 1 in 10 people know it's even happening.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (/wLGm)
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I think a better way to think about it is what would they be saying if there were 50% more men than women in college, rather than the other way around. Easy: Sexism!!! Patriarchy!!! We need to replace all the professors with lesbians (I mean even more lesbians) and reprogram the schools to appeal more the women. But they don’t think for one second that they’ve designed all of education around women, and that maybe men have say f this. Which is what I think has actually happened.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (8iNlE)
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It's all a moot point anyway.
Go to Reddit and read the threads in the "Professors" subreddit. What is happening in universities these days is beyond belief. Thousands of professors chime in daily on thread after thread, andnthey all agree that:
-- Almost 100% of modern college students cheat, using AI -- some cheat on every assignment, some cheatmostof the time, and a few cheat only occasionaly--but they all cheat one way or another.
-- Modern students generally show up t college functionally illiterate, and unable to perform or comprehend basic math.
-- Mot students seem to have brain ndamage caused by iPhoje addictions: Most are incapable of concentrating mpre than 20n seconds in a row, most cannot understand lesson instruction, and they seem incapable of retaining information -- whatever you teach them one day, they have frgotten by the following day.
-- A substation majority of students are rude, dismissive, verbally aggressive, insulting, and seems to all have severe personality disorders, and are unable to function as adults.
[cont't]
Go to Reddit and read the threads in the "Professors" subreddit. What is happening in universities these days is beyond belief. Thousands of professors chime in daily on thread after thread, andnthey all agree that:
-- Almost 100% of modern college students cheat, using AI -- some cheat on every assignment, some cheatmostof the time, and a few cheat only occasionaly--but they all cheat one way or another.
-- Modern students generally show up t college functionally illiterate, and unable to perform or comprehend basic math.
-- Mot students seem to have brain ndamage caused by iPhoje addictions: Most are incapable of concentrating mpre than 20n seconds in a row, most cannot understand lesson instruction, and they seem incapable of retaining information -- whatever you teach them one day, they have frgotten by the following day.
-- A substation majority of students are rude, dismissive, verbally aggressive, insulting, and seems to all have severe personality disorders, and are unable to function as adults.
[cont't]
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)
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Overturn Griggs v Duke Power. Intelligent, loyal and honest men are still in demand. Companies would love to recruit directly. College is the cost to get an interview. No reason for that level of stupid. My guess is we love us some debt slaves.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (pZ64F)
Won't fix all the issues, but will at least stop people who should have never gone to college from getting 200K in debt to find out they are pretty stupid to have taken out 200k in nondischargeable debt.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (pZ64F)
Won't fix all the issues, but will at least stop people who should have never gone to college from getting 200K in debt to find out they are pretty stupid to have taken out 200k in nondischargeable debt.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (N1tpc)
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61 (insert College has risen in cost faster than medical care here)
Posted by: Francis
Doesn't compare to the rise in veterinarian care.
Posted by: Francis
Doesn't compare to the rise in veterinarian care.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (/U5Yz)
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I remember a college girlfriend of mine told me she toured a very leftwing women's college while deciding where to go. The tour guide, who was a student there, told the group "We don't need men here for anything [wink wink nudge nudge]" which led my later girlfriend to drop that college from her list
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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Not uncommon, and not just in cases where lesbianism is a thinly-veiled recruitment boast.
When men fall below some level - IIRC, it's somewhere around 40% or so - of the student body, women quit going, too. Fewer women than ever are out there trying to earn an MRS degree, but wanting to meet men is at least part of the equation, consciously or not.
If male enrollment generally falls too far below parity, enrollment is going to start crashing.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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Not uncommon, and not just in cases where lesbianism is a thinly-veiled recruitment boast.
When men fall below some level - IIRC, it's somewhere around 40% or so - of the student body, women quit going, too. Fewer women than ever are out there trying to earn an MRS degree, but wanting to meet men is at least part of the equation, consciously or not.
If male enrollment generally falls too far below parity, enrollment is going to start crashing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (WkNQM)
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"state some facts, state some more tangentially-related or unrelated facts, stoke some fear and depend on nobody saying to himself, "wait a moment, what's missing? Are these things actually related? Why is this article trying to scare me?""
Behold the formula for Heather Cox Richardson to make $1M per year from her daily Substack TDS "letters to America", on top of her $60K salary as a professor of "American Studies", and the occasional $300K speaking fee.
She is the Bible of the self-anointed aging "liberal" and yard sign Calvinist.
Behold the formula for Heather Cox Richardson to make $1M per year from her daily Substack TDS "letters to America", on top of her $60K salary as a professor of "American Studies", and the occasional $300K speaking fee.
She is the Bible of the self-anointed aging "liberal" and yard sign Calvinist.
Posted by: barbarausa at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (enw9G)
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Any word from Nurse R?
Posted by: PabloD at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (hc59r)
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Yes, foreign students has always been a great way to get full tuition students. However, it’s sounding like this has become so rampant that we, the people, are funding elite schools to educate primarily foreigners, who then get visas, then citizenship to do “jobs Americans can’t do.
It’s a complete loop, yet again ensuring Americans lose out to foreigners from the first step, and can never catch up once excluded.
It’s a complete loop, yet again ensuring Americans lose out to foreigners from the first step, and can never catch up once excluded.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (Hkcdp)
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Few students choose colleges based on costs, so colleges have responded by offering more and more perks instead - mostly with marginally valuable staff but also a bunch of expensive facilities.
So when you hear a younger person complaining that college in real costs was 1/10 of what it is now you can point out that's because they didn't have a gym, vegan cafeteria, and mental health counselors...
So when you hear a younger person complaining that college in real costs was 1/10 of what it is now you can point out that's because they didn't have a gym, vegan cafeteria, and mental health counselors...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)
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I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
I think people are figuring it out. Being able to afford for your wife to stay at home with the children is seen as a positive these days. Maybe AWFLs sneer at it but amongst my peers with young children those of us who can make it work do it. I don't know of any of the wives who rejected the idea of staying at home.
I think people are figuring it out. Being able to afford for your wife to stay at home with the children is seen as a positive these days. Maybe AWFLs sneer at it but amongst my peers with young children those of us who can make it work do it. I don't know of any of the wives who rejected the idea of staying at home.
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (jGJov)
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Funny, the dumbest people at college are the journalism majors. It’s the degree you fail into.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
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... -- Mot students seem to have brain ndamage caused by iPhoje addictions: Most are incapable of concentrating mpre than 20n seconds in a row, most cannot understand lesson instruction, and they seem incapable of retaining information -- whatever you teach them one day, they have frgotten by the following day. ...
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)
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I've seen this referred to as "phone brain" and, sometimes, "digital dementia." From some early studies I read a while back, extensive or continuous smartphone use (which isn't a phone, but a high-throughput data transfer device) throughout one's teens has similar effects to dementia (no retention, no focus, losing train of thought all the time, etc.). Probably not permanent, though. Or at least, hopefully.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:50 PM (pMi6S)
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I've seen this referred to as "phone brain" and, sometimes, "digital dementia." From some early studies I read a while back, extensive or continuous smartphone use (which isn't a phone, but a high-throughput data transfer device) throughout one's teens has similar effects to dementia (no retention, no focus, losing train of thought all the time, etc.). Probably not permanent, though. Or at least, hopefully.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (WkNQM)
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I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (N1tpc)
Probably not pilloried here. I was sold that lie. I did very well as an Architect, retired after 40 years of it. I put up with a fair amount of crap for being a woman in a man's profession for the first 10 years or so, but after that it pretty much stopped.
I also met other women in the profession who thought they had to be ball-busters to get ahead. Ruined themselves as women, IMO. I never had to do any of that to be successful. I was a mentor, not a dementor. For that I had very loyal people working for me, rather than a house of henpecked, miserable slobs.
I see no reason why a woman can't choose between working and raising a family, and why she is supposed to do both. Makes most women frazzled and miserable. I wouldn't have put up with it except society told me that was my "fulfillment." I'd have been perfectly happy as a domestic goddess. And now I am one.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:45 PM (N1tpc)
Probably not pilloried here. I was sold that lie. I did very well as an Architect, retired after 40 years of it. I put up with a fair amount of crap for being a woman in a man's profession for the first 10 years or so, but after that it pretty much stopped.
I also met other women in the profession who thought they had to be ball-busters to get ahead. Ruined themselves as women, IMO. I never had to do any of that to be successful. I was a mentor, not a dementor. For that I had very loyal people working for me, rather than a house of henpecked, miserable slobs.
I see no reason why a woman can't choose between working and raising a family, and why she is supposed to do both. Makes most women frazzled and miserable. I wouldn't have put up with it except society told me that was my "fulfillment." I'd have been perfectly happy as a domestic goddess. And now I am one.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (a4NoL)
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She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)
To even superficially puncture female solipsism is quite a feat. Well done.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)
To even superficially puncture female solipsism is quite a feat. Well done.
Posted by: We're all just one lie away from firing or prison at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (TbWk/)
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75 Funny, the dumbest people at college are the journalism majors. It’s the degree you fail into.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
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I thought it was Education majors.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
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I thought it was Education majors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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Speaking of Cecil Rhodes, I've done some reading and come to the conclusion that Rhodesia was one of the most successful and well run countries in the world. Until it was undermined by Soviet KGB-run subterfuge and revolution, and back stabbed by weak kneed politicians in the West. Now I'm hearing that Zimbabwe is asking for the whites to come back.
Of course they'd be fools if they did.
Of course they'd be fools if they did.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (C4BAC)
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Fewer women than ever are out there trying to earn an MRS degree, but wanting to meet men is at least part of the equation, consciously or not.
I see an endless complaints from younger women then they can't find "quality guys their age
Well, this is the hypergamy game, if the government oppresses men and rewards women, then women will find ever fewer "quality" guys - leaving them with the options of sharing some high status man, marrying a much older man, or de facto marrying their cats.
I see an endless complaints from younger women then they can't find "quality guys their age
Well, this is the hypergamy game, if the government oppresses men and rewards women, then women will find ever fewer "quality" guys - leaving them with the options of sharing some high status man, marrying a much older man, or de facto marrying their cats.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (t0Rmr)
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[con't]
-- Ifn you give any student a bad grade (which tyey all deserve), they will first beg for a better grade, and if that doesn't work, they will threaten to write a bad evaluation of you as blackmail unless you bump up their grade and if that does'tt work they will go to the administration and accuse you of abuse, incompetence, bigotry, racism, sexual harassment, homophobia, "ablism" --anythihg to get you to cav.e
-- TH4yn never recover from their illieteracy, and by the time they graduate they're generally still illiterate, merely better skilled at using AI to hide this fact.
-- Despite all this, all student have sky-ihgh self-esteem, and are all smug narcissists.
Reading these professor thread is the most depressing thing imaginable. Really makes you thinbk ourn civilization is domed.
-- Ifn you give any student a bad grade (which tyey all deserve), they will first beg for a better grade, and if that doesn't work, they will threaten to write a bad evaluation of you as blackmail unless you bump up their grade and if that does'tt work they will go to the administration and accuse you of abuse, incompetence, bigotry, racism, sexual harassment, homophobia, "ablism" --anythihg to get you to cav.e
-- TH4yn never recover from their illieteracy, and by the time they graduate they're generally still illiterate, merely better skilled at using AI to hide this fact.
-- Despite all this, all student have sky-ihgh self-esteem, and are all smug narcissists.
Reading these professor thread is the most depressing thing imaginable. Really makes you thinbk ourn civilization is domed.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (pMi6S)
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Don't miss the part where the corporations pushed for women to become mostly useless, disposable, interchangeable widgets the same as men.
Not only because it benefited them to have the labor, but if women are Strong and Independent and Aint Need No Man then they will have their own apartment/house, car, pantry, etc.
Not only did they halve the workforce but they roughly doubled consumption. Ka-ching.
Brilliant when you think about it.
Not only because it benefited them to have the labor, but if women are Strong and Independent and Aint Need No Man then they will have their own apartment/house, car, pantry, etc.
Not only did they halve the workforce but they roughly doubled consumption. Ka-ching.
Brilliant when you think about it.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (/wLGm)
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76 I've seen this referred to as "phone brain" and, sometimes, "digital dementia." From some early studies I read a while back, extensive or continuous smartphone use (which isn't a phone, but a high-throughput data transfer device) throughout one's teens has similar effects to dementia (no retention, no focus, losing train of thought all the time, etc.). Probably not permanent, though. Or at least, hopefully.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (WkNQM)
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Junior may end up getting a flip phone at some point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (WkNQM)
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Junior may end up getting a flip phone at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
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Few students choose colleges based on costs, so colleges have responded by offering more and more perks instead - mostly with marginally valuable staff but also a bunch of expensive facilities.
So when you hear a younger person complaining that college in real costs was 1/10 of what it is now you can point out that's because they didn't have a gym, vegan cafeteria, and mental health counselors...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)
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The facilities are crazy, but that's capital expense. It has to be serviced when debt is involved (there often is, and my alma mater is a great example). Compound it with all the "programs" - the operational version of the nice facilities - and it gets completely out of control fast.
So when you hear a younger person complaining that college in real costs was 1/10 of what it is now you can point out that's because they didn't have a gym, vegan cafeteria, and mental health counselors...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)
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The facilities are crazy, but that's capital expense. It has to be serviced when debt is involved (there often is, and my alma mater is a great example). Compound it with all the "programs" - the operational version of the nice facilities - and it gets completely out of control fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (WkNQM)
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Anyway, he's kicking ass as an HVAC apprentice and making seriously good coin. So eff you, college cartels.
Posted by: Doof
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The thing about college (or law school, med school, etc) is that they will ALWAYS take your money if you choose to enroll later.
In many cases, people can and do go back to get degrees or even specific certifications (like para legals in some states, etc) that require some college course work.
Our educational system in general is set up on the old German industrial model including K12 and not actually on education itself. We would do far better if K12+college became a more individualized process rather our current model.
The biggest opponents to such moves are oriented on sports, etc. as if you let students go to where their education requires, it destroys the whole freshman, sophomore, junior, etc. model that sports relies upon.
Those might be better off as club activities outside of school proper than keeping kids from doing what they need to do as individuals to learn.
Posted by: Doof
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The thing about college (or law school, med school, etc) is that they will ALWAYS take your money if you choose to enroll later.
In many cases, people can and do go back to get degrees or even specific certifications (like para legals in some states, etc) that require some college course work.
Our educational system in general is set up on the old German industrial model including K12 and not actually on education itself. We would do far better if K12+college became a more individualized process rather our current model.
The biggest opponents to such moves are oriented on sports, etc. as if you let students go to where their education requires, it destroys the whole freshman, sophomore, junior, etc. model that sports relies upon.
Those might be better off as club activities outside of school proper than keeping kids from doing what they need to do as individuals to learn.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (ctrM5)
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flood the job market with H1Bs and immigrants
meanwhile, colleges raise tuition far outpacing inflation and an entire generation gets mired in debt with little return
limit grants and scholarships to women (even though they have outnumbered men at college for decades) and DEI
oh no, men aren't going to college!
Posted by: brak
All they do is skulk around in the woods and kill things...
meanwhile, colleges raise tuition far outpacing inflation and an entire generation gets mired in debt with little return
limit grants and scholarships to women (even though they have outnumbered men at college for decades) and DEI
oh no, men aren't going to college!
Posted by: brak
All they do is skulk around in the woods and kill things...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (/lPRQ)
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75 Funny, the dumbest people at college are the journalism majors. It’s the degree you fail into.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
Education majors. Even dumber than journalism majors. Bottom of the barrel.
Why do you need four years of college to be able to figure out how to teach 3rd grade math? Didn't you take that already?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
Education majors. Even dumber than journalism majors. Bottom of the barrel.
Why do you need four years of college to be able to figure out how to teach 3rd grade math? Didn't you take that already?
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (a4NoL)
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82 Reading these professor thread is the most depressing thing imaginable. Really makes you thinbk ourn civilization is domed.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (pMi6S)
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What if the smartest of the newest generation...
aren't going to college?
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (pMi6S)
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What if the smartest of the newest generation...
aren't going to college?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
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But they don’t think for one second that they’ve designed all of education around women, and that maybe men have say f this. Which is what I think has actually happened.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA
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The system was designed this way by the Patriarchy!
Smash the Patriarchy!
Posted by: Mad Max in VA
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The system was designed this way by the Patriarchy!
Smash the Patriarchy!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 03:56 PM (Dv3i1)
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I thought it was Education majors.
Communications majors
Preparing you for a career of forwarding emails in HR
Communications majors
Preparing you for a career of forwarding emails in HR
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 03:56 PM (jGJov)
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I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
Corporations wanted more wage slaves for less pay and the government wanted more tax cattle. They won. We lost.
Corporations wanted more wage slaves for less pay and the government wanted more tax cattle. They won. We lost.
Posted by: This was not accidental at May 01, 2025 03:56 PM (TbWk/)
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I remember when "income inequality" was the worst thing evah!
Now of course anything that helps American taxpayers is evil and rayciss and they should be proud to spend all their money paying for welfare for illegals.
Now of course anything that helps American taxpayers is evil and rayciss and they should be proud to spend all their money paying for welfare for illegals.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:56 PM (t0Rmr)
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> The Marxist term “working class” must go.
I've always found it blackly humorous that Karl Marx, self-described expert on the "working class", never worked a day in his life.
His children starved until he started mooching off his buddy Engels' (capitalist) dad, because he was too busy thinking Deep Thoughts and sexually abusing his servant girl to get a fucking job.
A real hero of the proletariat, that Marx.
I've always found it blackly humorous that Karl Marx, self-described expert on the "working class", never worked a day in his life.
His children starved until he started mooching off his buddy Engels' (capitalist) dad, because he was too busy thinking Deep Thoughts and sexually abusing his servant girl to get a fucking job.
A real hero of the proletariat, that Marx.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 03:57 PM (W5ArC)
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... When we got back, she accused me of being sexist because I wouldn't deign to ride the elevator with a woman. I told her that I chose not to because she could destroy me if I did. "If you told HR I smacked your ass, no amount of truth would save my job. I might even end up in prison. So no, until we know each other better, I won't ride the elevator with a woman I don't know."
She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)
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The only time I'll be alone with a woman at work is she's my boss and I have no choice. I've been asked to - and agreed to - train and mentor women, but I have also always made sure to have another coworker with me. "George knows this stuff really well, too. I want his help" or "Steve is ready to move up, too. Let's get him in on this, too."
She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 03:42 PM (oSeBJ)
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The only time I'll be alone with a woman at work is she's my boss and I have no choice. I've been asked to - and agreed to - train and mentor women, but I have also always made sure to have another coworker with me. "George knows this stuff really well, too. I want his help" or "Steve is ready to move up, too. Let's get him in on this, too."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:57 PM (WkNQM)
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I think people are figuring it out. Being able to afford for your wife to stay at home with the children is seen as a positive these days. Maybe AWFLs sneer at it but amongst my peers with young children those of us who can make it work do it. I don't know of any of the wives who rejected the idea of staying at home.
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (jGJov)
My wife is a stay-at-home mom, as well, but we are by no means blue-collar.
Some of our friends also have stay-at-home moms, but it is a clear minority. And that is among a massively overbalanced population sample of mainly conservative Christians.
It's worth the sacrifice, but for most people it's a scary sacrifice. (We moved to be able to afford it when we were younger.)
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (jGJov)
My wife is a stay-at-home mom, as well, but we are by no means blue-collar.
Some of our friends also have stay-at-home moms, but it is a clear minority. And that is among a massively overbalanced population sample of mainly conservative Christians.
It's worth the sacrifice, but for most people it's a scary sacrifice. (We moved to be able to afford it when we were younger.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (N1tpc)
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95 The only time I'll be alone with a woman at work is she's my boss and I have no choice. I've been asked to - and agreed to - train and mentor women, but I have also always made sure to have another coworker with me. "George knows this stuff really well, too. I want his help" or "Steve is ready to move up, too. Let's get him in on this, too."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:57 PM (WkNQM)
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Tangentially, how's your health these days?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:57 PM (WkNQM)
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Tangentially, how's your health these days?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
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There was an article about Hillsdale in the WSJ recently, specifically exploring how they do without fed money. A commenter on their site mentioned he and his daughter had toured both Hillsdale and Harvard. When he asked her why she then decided she didn’t want to go to Harvard, her reply was “No one there smiles.”
Interesting…
Interesting…
Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (Hkcdp)
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It's been my experience that the less women in the workplace the better.
Posted by: But I don't care any more at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (dg+HA)
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The notion that work is "empowering" has always amused me.
I guess maybe if you are a brain surgeon or something, but I've worked most of my life in the corporate world and the only think I've gotten is a paycheck from those companies. That's not nothing certainly...but it in no way gives your life meaning.
I guess maybe if you are a brain surgeon or something, but I've worked most of my life in the corporate world and the only think I've gotten is a paycheck from those companies. That's not nothing certainly...but it in no way gives your life meaning.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (t0Rmr)
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Really makes you thinbk ourn civilization is domed.
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For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky
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For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky
Posted by: Obscure Star Trek reference at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (Dv3i1)
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I see an endless complaints from younger women then they can't find "quality guys their age
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The appropriate thing for older women to do is to teach younger women that there are no long-term benefits to years of (ahem) "experience" and single life.
But for some reason that doesn't happen. Matter of fact, parents teach them the opposite. Take on massive debt! Go out and be workers! Postpone the important stuff in order to gain STDs and trauma! Yay!
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The appropriate thing for older women to do is to teach younger women that there are no long-term benefits to years of (ahem) "experience" and single life.
But for some reason that doesn't happen. Matter of fact, parents teach them the opposite. Take on massive debt! Go out and be workers! Postpone the important stuff in order to gain STDs and trauma! Yay!
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (/wLGm)
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Our educational system in general is set up on the old German industrial model including K12 and not actually on education itself. We would do far better if K12+college became a more individualized process rather our current model.
The biggest opponents to such moves are oriented on sports, etc. as if you let students go to where their education requires, it destroys the whole freshman, sophomore, junior, etc. model that sports relies upon.
Those might be better off as club activities outside of school proper than keeping kids from doing what they need to do as individuals to learn.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (ctrM5)
Well said.
The biggest opponents to such moves are oriented on sports, etc. as if you let students go to where their education requires, it destroys the whole freshman, sophomore, junior, etc. model that sports relies upon.
Those might be better off as club activities outside of school proper than keeping kids from doing what they need to do as individuals to learn.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (ctrM5)
Well said.
Posted by: Doof at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (vf0Y9)
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85 Few students choose colleges based on costs, so colleges have responded by offering more and more perks instead - mostly with marginally valuable staff but also a bunch of expensive facilities.
So when you hear a younger person complaining that college in real costs was 1/10 of what it is now you can point out that's because they didn't have a gym, vegan cafeteria, and mental health counselors...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)
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The facilities are crazy, but that's capital expense. It has to be serviced when debt is involved (there often is, and my alma mater is a great example). Compound it with all the "programs" - the operational version of the nice facilities - and it gets completely out of control fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Many universities are overleveraged with debt for capital building projects based on student fees and tuition income designated for bond repayment. Drop in enrollment means increased fees/tuition and that could mean a spiraling drop in enrollment for being overpriced.
So when you hear a younger person complaining that college in real costs was 1/10 of what it is now you can point out that's because they didn't have a gym, vegan cafeteria, and mental health counselors...
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:51 PM (t0Rmr)
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The facilities are crazy, but that's capital expense. It has to be serviced when debt is involved (there often is, and my alma mater is a great example). Compound it with all the "programs" - the operational version of the nice facilities - and it gets completely out of control fast.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Many universities are overleveraged with debt for capital building projects based on student fees and tuition income designated for bond repayment. Drop in enrollment means increased fees/tuition and that could mean a spiraling drop in enrollment for being overpriced.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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The STEM school where I work has been trying to get more women to come here for *decades*.
The M:F ratio here is still hovering around 3:1.
There's literally nothing stopping women from going to a STEM school and they will gladly hand out incentives to bring in women, but women simply don't sign up in the same numbers as men.
The M:F ratio here is still hovering around 3:1.
There's literally nothing stopping women from going to a STEM school and they will gladly hand out incentives to bring in women, but women simply don't sign up in the same numbers as men.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (7fElN)
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Funny, the dumbest people at college are the journalism majors. It’s the degree you fail into.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
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I thought it was Education majors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
Journalism is what you major in when you can't hack it in any other major. Education is what you major in when you can't hack it in Journalism.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 01, 2025 03:53 PM (+xH0d)
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I thought it was Education majors.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla
Journalism is what you major in when you can't hack it in any other major. Education is what you major in when you can't hack it in Journalism.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (hB7mE)
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Trade high schools instead of college prep High schools are desperately needed in this country.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (VofaG)
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> Now I'm hearing that Zimbabwe is asking for the whites to come back.
You'll get pilloried for mentioning this, but EVERY former African colony was immensely better off before the colonial powers exited (especially the former British colonies).
You'll get pilloried for mentioning this, but EVERY former African colony was immensely better off before the colonial powers exited (especially the former British colonies).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (W5ArC)
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-- Ifn you give any student a bad grade (which tyey all deserve), they will first beg for a better grade, and if that doesn't work, they will threaten to write a bad evaluation of you as blackmail unless you bump up their grade and if that does'tt work they will go to the administration and accuse you of abuse, incompetence, bigotry, racism, sexual harassment, homophobia, "ablism" --anythihg to get you to cav.e ...
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (pMi6S)
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I can't fathom that. I don't doubt it, but I don't (maybe can't) get it.
When I got a bad grade on something, I absolutely went to see the professor to ask what I needed to do to keep from getting a bad grade next time. If it was something objective (math, etc.), it would be "what should I study to help me get this better" and if something subjective (writing, etc.), I used it to learn what the professor wanted so I could try to make my next assignment fit.
Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (pMi6S)
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I can't fathom that. I don't doubt it, but I don't (maybe can't) get it.
When I got a bad grade on something, I absolutely went to see the professor to ask what I needed to do to keep from getting a bad grade next time. If it was something objective (math, etc.), it would be "what should I study to help me get this better" and if something subjective (writing, etc.), I used it to learn what the professor wanted so I could try to make my next assignment fit.
Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (WkNQM)
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Well, this is the hypergamy game, if the government oppresses men and rewards women, then women will find ever fewer "quality" guys - leaving them with the options of sharing some high status man, marrying a much older man, or de facto marrying their cats.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (t0Rmr)
And don't forget the effect of dating apps. The data show the women find 80% of men to be below average, and are all hooking up with the same guys who represent a tiny fraction of men but that satisfy their absurd "standards." So they've haremed themselves to a small group of "high-value" men who will gladly pipe them but ain't gonna marry them.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 03:54 PM (t0Rmr)
And don't forget the effect of dating apps. The data show the women find 80% of men to be below average, and are all hooking up with the same guys who represent a tiny fraction of men but that satisfy their absurd "standards." So they've haremed themselves to a small group of "high-value" men who will gladly pipe them but ain't gonna marry them.
Posted by: Maybe we deserve extinction at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (TbWk/)
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As soon as I saw the "College men earn 200%" more than blue collar I knew everything after that was more BS.
How about some data supporting that assertion?
How about some data supporting that assertion?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:01 PM (tT6L1)
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The Marxist term “working class” must go.
I prefer this structure: the dependent class, the productive class, the governing class - it more accurately reflects the real world.
I prefer this structure: the dependent class, the productive class, the governing class - it more accurately reflects the real world.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:01 PM (t0Rmr)
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Tangentially, how's your health these days?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
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Okay, I think. Backslid a bit but working on it. Thanks for asking!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (GBKbO)
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Okay, I think. Backslid a bit but working on it. Thanks for asking!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:01 PM (WkNQM)
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>>>She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
Don't keep us in suspense. How was she in the sack?
Don't keep us in suspense. How was she in the sack?
Posted by: one hour sober at May 01, 2025 04:01 PM (Y1sOo)
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Many universities are overleveraged with debt for capital building projects based on student fees and tuition income designated for bond repayment. Drop in enrollment means increased fees/tuition and that could mean a spiraling drop in enrollment for being overpriced.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Yup. For every Harvard, there are dozens of Antiochs. The college where I went is not going to survive what's coming.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Yup. For every Harvard, there are dozens of Antiochs. The college where I went is not going to survive what's coming.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:02 PM (WkNQM)
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98 There was an article about Hillsdale in the WSJ recently, specifically exploring how they do without fed money. A commenter on their site mentioned he and his daughter had toured both Hillsdale and Harvard. When he asked her why she then decided she didn’t want to go to Harvard, her reply was “No one there smiles.”
Interesting…
Posted by: Lizzy
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Hillsdale gets all the press but Grove City in PA was actually the plaintiff college that prevailed at Scotus causing the Dems and GHWB to rewrite the law so that all functions of a university are covered under federal scrutiny.
Grove City also does not accept any federal funds and fwiw, I have a friend that has taught there for many years.
Interesting…
Posted by: Lizzy
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Hillsdale gets all the press but Grove City in PA was actually the plaintiff college that prevailed at Scotus causing the Dems and GHWB to rewrite the law so that all functions of a university are covered under federal scrutiny.
Grove City also does not accept any federal funds and fwiw, I have a friend that has taught there for many years.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:02 PM (ctrM5)
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> Education is what you major in when you can't hack it in Journalism.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (hB7mE)
I can top that. "Human Resource Education" is a thing nowadays.
Although I'm not sure those are actually the worst, if you count the various Angry Studies majors, which primarily exist so the college can graduate enough minorities to keep the gummint off their asses.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (hB7mE)
I can top that. "Human Resource Education" is a thing nowadays.
Although I'm not sure those are actually the worst, if you count the various Angry Studies majors, which primarily exist so the college can graduate enough minorities to keep the gummint off their asses.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:02 PM (W5ArC)
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Junior may end up getting a flip phone at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
We let our oldest (14) take an older smartphone on a trip to DC this week so she can call us if need be. (First time she's been allowed out of the house with one.)
From what I can glean, that's been a disaster. Definitely not ready to have one and not be controlled by it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)
We let our oldest (14) take an older smartphone on a trip to DC this week so she can call us if need be. (First time she's been allowed out of the house with one.)
From what I can glean, that's been a disaster. Definitely not ready to have one and not be controlled by it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 04:02 PM (N1tpc)
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99 It's been my experience that the less women in the workplace the better.
Posted by: But I don't care any more at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (dg+HA)
Fewer. In all other respects I agree.
Posted by: But I don't care any more at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (dg+HA)
Fewer. In all other respects I agree.
Posted by: Grammar nazi at May 01, 2025 04:03 PM (TbWk/)
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It's been my experience that the less women in the workplace the better.
Posted by: But I don't care any more
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Except for the ones that fail the elbow test.
Put your elbows out, fists up. Walk towards that wall.
Your breasts touched first. You fail.
When can you start?
Posted by: But I don't care any more
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Except for the ones that fail the elbow test.
Put your elbows out, fists up. Walk towards that wall.
Your breasts touched first. You fail.
When can you start?
Posted by: a surfer at May 01, 2025 04:03 PM (v0R5T)
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So Waltz to the UN?
Also, yes Canada is back-door F'ed:
For fun, find Know Fake News on the tictok for honest reporting on their mayor.
Also, yes Canada is back-door F'ed:
For fun, find Know Fake News on the tictok for honest reporting on their mayor.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:03 PM (NwfFc)
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>>>She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective
http://tiny.cc/wdei001
http://tiny.cc/wdei001
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (jGJov)
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> Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me.
Back when I was an academic (I got better), I actually had a student have his mom call me and ask for a better grade.
When I was an undergrad, I would have died rather than have my mom contact the professor.
Back when I was an academic (I got better), I actually had a student have his mom call me and ask for a better grade.
When I was an undergrad, I would have died rather than have my mom contact the professor.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
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119 99 It's been my experience that the less women in the workplace the better.
Posted by: But I don't care any more at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (dg+HA)
Fewer. In all other respects I agree.
Posted by: Grammar nazi
They are trouble makers.
Posted by: But I don't care any more at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (dg+HA)
Fewer. In all other respects I agree.
Posted by: Grammar nazi
They are trouble makers.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (/U5Yz)
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123 Back when I was an academic (I got better), I actually had a student have his mom call me and ask for a better grade.
When I was an undergrad, I would have died rather than have my mom contact the professor.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
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The Coen Brothers made the movie for you:
A Serious Man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDKHWRbK2_Q
When I was an undergrad, I would have died rather than have my mom contact the professor.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
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The Coen Brothers made the movie for you:
A Serious Man:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDKHWRbK2_Q
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (GBKbO)
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I can't fathom that. I don't doubt it, but I don't (maybe can't) get it.
When I got a bad grade on something, I absolutely went to see the professor to ask what I needed to do to keep from getting a bad grade next time. If it was something objective (math, etc.), it would be "what should I study to help me get this better" and if something subjective (writing, etc.), I used it to learn what the professor wanted so I could try to make my next assignment fit.
Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (WkNQM)
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It absolutely happens. I've dealt with a couple of faculty this semester to whom it's happened. They are good teachers and they care about their students' learning.
However, if a student doesn't get a good grade, they'll shred the professor in end-of-course evaluations, even though the students earned their poor grade through low attendance and little-to-no engagement in the course.
When I got a bad grade on something, I absolutely went to see the professor to ask what I needed to do to keep from getting a bad grade next time. If it was something objective (math, etc.), it would be "what should I study to help me get this better" and if something subjective (writing, etc.), I used it to learn what the professor wanted so I could try to make my next assignment fit.
Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (WkNQM)
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It absolutely happens. I've dealt with a couple of faculty this semester to whom it's happened. They are good teachers and they care about their students' learning.
However, if a student doesn't get a good grade, they'll shred the professor in end-of-course evaluations, even though the students earned their poor grade through low attendance and little-to-no engagement in the course.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (7fElN)
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I don't think you can have any conversation about mental injuries in younger generations without considering the fact that 99.5% of them walk around baked out of their damn gourds all day every day.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (dk77l)
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When I was an undergrad, I would have died rather than have my mom contact the professor.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
If I had considered it, it would have meant I was in the hospital.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
If I had considered it, it would have meant I was in the hospital.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (VNX3d)
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Another useful step would be to overturn Griggs vs Duke Power Company as outrageously false and stupid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (2VST1)
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When I was an undergrad, I would have died rather than have my mom contact the professor.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
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I got screwed by a combination of a bizarre corner case and an intractable administration. I fought it all the way to board or regents and lost. Is what it is.
But I learned *long* after - just a few years ago - that my dad called the school and lit 'em up, too, for their absurdity. I was kinda mortified when I learned that LOL.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:04 PM (W5ArC)
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I got screwed by a combination of a bizarre corner case and an intractable administration. I fought it all the way to board or regents and lost. Is what it is.
But I learned *long* after - just a few years ago - that my dad called the school and lit 'em up, too, for their absurdity. I was kinda mortified when I learned that LOL.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (WkNQM)
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It's worth the sacrifice, but for most people it's a scary sacrifice. (We moved to be able to afford it when we were younger.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (N1tpc)
Here's the equation, though. A stay at home mom is also the person who figures out how to not spend all the money. That's why they used to teach home economics in junior high school. My mom raised five kids, kept the house, did the shopping and cooking and cleaning, and managed the household finances so that when my folks passed away, they still had over 2M in various accounts, this after several years in care.
We didn't waste food, but there was plenty of it. We didn't waste time, either, and all five of us learned everything there was to know about planting a produce garden, putting up food for the winter, processing moose and salmon, managing a huge freezer, sewing our own clothes, knitting our own sweaters and mittens, etc.
Otherwise, there was no way Dad could have supported us one one salary. It is a team effort, and plenty of work.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 01, 2025 03:58 PM (N1tpc)
Here's the equation, though. A stay at home mom is also the person who figures out how to not spend all the money. That's why they used to teach home economics in junior high school. My mom raised five kids, kept the house, did the shopping and cooking and cleaning, and managed the household finances so that when my folks passed away, they still had over 2M in various accounts, this after several years in care.
We didn't waste food, but there was plenty of it. We didn't waste time, either, and all five of us learned everything there was to know about planting a produce garden, putting up food for the winter, processing moose and salmon, managing a huge freezer, sewing our own clothes, knitting our own sweaters and mittens, etc.
Otherwise, there was no way Dad could have supported us one one salary. It is a team effort, and plenty of work.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (a4NoL)
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>>>From what I can glean, that's been a disaster. Definitely not ready to have one and not be controlled by it.
Everything on them is intentionally made to be as addictive as possible. Most adults don't know how not to be controlled by it.
Everything on them is intentionally made to be as addictive as possible. Most adults don't know how not to be controlled by it.
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (jGJov)
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What is Zimbabwe's real name? Rhodesia?
What is Zimbabwe's real name? Rhodesia?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (qKvR9)
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... Now a working class family, to have the same standard of living a similar family had in the 1970s, needs two incomes to survive.
You can get by on one income. But that means budgeting, and people do not want to to that because IT’s TOO HARD.
You can get by on one income. But that means budgeting, and people do not want to to that because IT’s TOO HARD.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 04:06 PM (eNdzY)
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She was absolutely gobsmacked, and an hour or two later came into my office to apologize and told me she'd never even considered those situations from a man's perspective.
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Wait until she finds out that men do things for her either because they're paid for the labor or because they want to have sex with her.
(the third option is avoiding potential wife/girlfriend friction if her request to help isn't met, but it's much less common)
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Wait until she finds out that men do things for her either because they're paid for the labor or because they want to have sex with her.
(the third option is avoiding potential wife/girlfriend friction if her request to help isn't met, but it's much less common)
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:06 PM (/wLGm)
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132 Everything on them is intentionally made to be as addictive as possible. Most adults don't know how not to be controlled by it.
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (jGJov)
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My RSS feed app controls me!
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (jGJov)
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My RSS feed app controls me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:06 PM (GBKbO)
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Inte, zombie.
Any of these professors consider what’s been happening in public schools as the cause, or do they blame the parents?
As for cheating, different cultures have different values for cheating. Wonder if they’ve considered that cheating became much more prevalent due to the increase in students from cheater cultures, as opposed to simply the AI tech being available?
And if your class is cheating, then why wouldn’t you, too? Not to endorse, but what choice do they have - drop out or join in. Colleges have to take some responsibility for that situation.
Any of these professors consider what’s been happening in public schools as the cause, or do they blame the parents?
As for cheating, different cultures have different values for cheating. Wonder if they’ve considered that cheating became much more prevalent due to the increase in students from cheater cultures, as opposed to simply the AI tech being available?
And if your class is cheating, then why wouldn’t you, too? Not to endorse, but what choice do they have - drop out or join in. Colleges have to take some responsibility for that situation.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 01, 2025 04:07 PM (Hkcdp)
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We need youtube classes on how to beat the press like PDT does. They might actually enjoy the abuse though.
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2025 04:07 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:07 PM (42Vb+)
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Almost half of women age 25-34 have earned a bachelor's degree
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In what subject(s), pray tell? I'm guessing most of them have degrees in bullshit subjects.
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In what subject(s), pray tell? I'm guessing most of them have degrees in bullshit subjects.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (YqDXo)
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I worked all my life at a job that required a lot of brain power, didn’t get paid all that much. I was smart about investing, and if I am well off now in retirement it wasn’t because I didn’t work. Brain work is work - look how exhausted a chess champion is after a hard match.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (jHien)
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I did have a "WTF?" conversation with a professor who gave me a bad grade on an exam because I gave a correct answer but not the answer that she secretly wanted. Seriously. There was nothing in the question or that was presented in class to indicate this was the case. I was not the only student who got burned by that either. She was immature and bitchy about it too.
Posted by: Professors can be tards too at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (TbWk/)
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Yup. For every Harvard, there are dozens of Antiochs. The college where I went is not going to survive what's coming.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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I dealt with some foreign universities such as in Italy, etc. (not the prestigious ones but the more easily attainable ones). Many rent space in commercial buildings, activities are on a voluntary club basis, and your housing is your own business.
Many of our urban state universities had similar origins but have moved to the high cost models as well with dorms, defined campuses, student services, etc.
Ultimately, I think online and hybrid universities are going to gain from the coming failures as education is just deriving down to a credential for most jobs.
Universities and colleges simply need to redefine themselves into working for their students rather than for themselves.
Part of that is that colleges/universities are now run by a managerial class of presidents, provosts, deans, etc. that float between schools despite truly awful records. Same system exists for large school district managers--they get fired in Phoenix but hired in Memphis sort of thing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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I dealt with some foreign universities such as in Italy, etc. (not the prestigious ones but the more easily attainable ones). Many rent space in commercial buildings, activities are on a voluntary club basis, and your housing is your own business.
Many of our urban state universities had similar origins but have moved to the high cost models as well with dorms, defined campuses, student services, etc.
Ultimately, I think online and hybrid universities are going to gain from the coming failures as education is just deriving down to a credential for most jobs.
Universities and colleges simply need to redefine themselves into working for their students rather than for themselves.
Part of that is that colleges/universities are now run by a managerial class of presidents, provosts, deans, etc. that float between schools despite truly awful records. Same system exists for large school district managers--they get fired in Phoenix but hired in Memphis sort of thing.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (ctrM5)
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>>>Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Having trouble w/second semester, same prof. I visited him, questioning why my essays, all of a sudden, were less well received than they were first semester. After receiving much circumlocution I asked, "you have a new grader, don't you?" - Affirmative.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Having trouble w/second semester, same prof. I visited him, questioning why my essays, all of a sudden, were less well received than they were first semester. After receiving much circumlocution I asked, "you have a new grader, don't you?" - Affirmative.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (0duCh)
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Wait until she finds out that men do things for her either because they're paid for the labor or because they want to have sex with her.
(the third option is avoiding potential wife/girlfriend friction if her request to help isn't met, but it's much less common)
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:06 PM (/wLGm)
Was it you who said "If they do boyfriend things FOR you, it's because they want to do boyfriend things TO you."?
(the third option is avoiding potential wife/girlfriend friction if her request to help isn't met, but it's much less common)
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:06 PM (/wLGm)
Was it you who said "If they do boyfriend things FOR you, it's because they want to do boyfriend things TO you."?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (oSeBJ)
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You can work for the man or you can start your own business. Most of the people I’ve met that live in the higher priced homes in my community made their money by having their own company.
I worked for the man for 35 years but wish I had pursued starting a business that I had some passion about. I would have been no worse off even if it had failed. You can always go work for the man. That said , I’ve never been motivated by money which is a hindrance to making money unsurprisingly.
I worked for the man for 35 years but wish I had pursued starting a business that I had some passion about. I would have been no worse off even if it had failed. You can always go work for the man. That said , I’ve never been motivated by money which is a hindrance to making money unsurprisingly.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (VofaG)
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We need youtube classes on how to beat the press like PDT does. They might actually enjoy the abuse though.
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2025 04:07 PM (FhXTo)
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MSM keeps coming back for more. I believe that's known as a "tell."
Posted by: DaveA at May 01, 2025 04:07 PM (FhXTo)
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MSM keeps coming back for more. I believe that's known as a "tell."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (tT6L1)
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For the world is hollow, and I have touched the sky
Posted by: Obscure Star Trek reference at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (Dv3i1)
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I'm here for it.
Posted by: Obscure Star Trek reference at May 01, 2025 03:59 PM (Dv3i1)
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I'm here for it.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (RIvkX)
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My former employer insisted that I get a MBA. I said fine, you pay for it. They did. I quit right after I graduated.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:08 PM (/U5Yz)
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We let our oldest (14) take an older smartphone on a trip to DC this week so she can call us if need be. (First time she's been allowed out of the house with one.)
From what I can glean, that's been a disaster. Definitely not ready to have one and not be controlled by it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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We're test running one for similar situations.
House rules: No internet-connected electronics in your room with the door closed, and you put the device down if other people are around.
Big differences in the concerns between boys and girls, though. Social media for girls is the big killer. Literally. That stuff will destroy the psyche.
From what I can glean, that's been a disaster. Definitely not ready to have one and not be controlled by it.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
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We're test running one for similar situations.
House rules: No internet-connected electronics in your room with the door closed, and you put the device down if other people are around.
Big differences in the concerns between boys and girls, though. Social media for girls is the big killer. Literally. That stuff will destroy the psyche.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (/wLGm)
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So no, until we know each other better, I won't ride the elevator with a woman I don't know."
Here's a good men rule: ever go into a room with a closed door alone with a woman that isn't family or a wife. Never. If it comes down to he said/she said, no amount of apology or retractions saves your reputation or chances of advancement or even employment.
Here's a good men rule: ever go into a room with a closed door alone with a woman that isn't family or a wife. Never. If it comes down to he said/she said, no amount of apology or retractions saves your reputation or chances of advancement or even employment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (2VST1)
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Wait until she finds out that men do things for her either because they're paid for the labor or because they want to have sex with her.
(the third option is avoiding potential wife/girlfriend friction if her request to help isn't met, but it's much less common)
You just described my prime motivation. I occasionally do things for chivilrous reasons too.
(the third option is avoiding potential wife/girlfriend friction if her request to help isn't met, but it's much less common)
You just described my prime motivation. I occasionally do things for chivilrous reasons too.
Posted by: Francis at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (bbuBP)
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Lulz??
New fake poll out of Texas shows matchup between colin allred beating Ken Paxton 52-37.
lulz or no lulz?
Lulz??
New fake poll out of Texas shows matchup between colin allred beating Ken Paxton 52-37.
lulz or no lulz?
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (qKvR9)
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SUCCESS!!!!
i got a rocking chair at CLT right in front of the paino, which not being played right now, and am people watching for the next two hours while I wait on my flight to HSV.
there sure is a lot of yoga pants on parade, most of them are well fitted too. many with bactrian dromedary feet.
SUCCESS!!!!
i got a rocking chair at CLT right in front of the paino, which not being played right now, and am people watching for the next two hours while I wait on my flight to HSV.
there sure is a lot of yoga pants on parade, most of them are well fitted too. many with bactrian dromedary feet.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (q9Puu)
Posted by: J. Peterman at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (dg+HA)
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There's literally nothing stopping women from going to a STEM school and they will gladly hand out incentives to bring in women, but women simply don't sign up in the same numbers as men.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (7fElN)
This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall. The idea that “many just don’t want to” never computes with the elites.
There's literally nothing stopping women from going to a STEM school and they will gladly hand out incentives to bring in women, but women simply don't sign up in the same numbers as men.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (7fElN)
This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall. The idea that “many just don’t want to” never computes with the elites.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (eNdzY)
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Here's a good men rule: ever go into a room with a closed door alone with a woman that isn't family or a wife. Never. If it comes down to he said/she said, no amount of apology or retractions saves your reputation or chances of advancement or even employment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (2VST1)
THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!
- M. Pence
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (2VST1)
THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!
- M. Pence
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (oSeBJ)
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Word is that commie allred didn't put out that fake poll, but cuck cornyn did.
What is this, 1980??
These Republicans are so lame.
Word is that commie allred didn't put out that fake poll, but cuck cornyn did.
What is this, 1980??
These Republicans are so lame.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (qKvR9)
Posted by: What a terrible destination at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (TbWk/)
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Re HVAC...it doesn't happen all the time but there's seriously dangerous environmental hazards working with HVAC.
Nasty filters. Dirty air handlers. High roof or ground temperatures. Sometimes freezing sometimes you're getting soaked. Crawling in ridiculous tight spaces. Spiders scorpions. Asshole bosses.
Nasty filters. Dirty air handlers. High roof or ground temperatures. Sometimes freezing sometimes you're getting soaked. Crawling in ridiculous tight spaces. Spiders scorpions. Asshole bosses.
Posted by: torabora at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (XWtWQ)
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I am not sorry I went to college. It helped me get some jobs. and I liked college. I am not sorry I went to graduate school and I am also a wife and mother. Colleges have major problems, yes and no, I don't think everybody should go, and I think Ivy League schools are a disaster.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (42Vb+)
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Here's a good men rule: ever go into a room with a closed door alone with a woman that isn't family or a wife. Never. If it comes down to he said/she said, no amount of apology or retractions saves your reputation or chances of advancement or even employment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (2VST1)
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I worked IT for a high school. During lunch, I was in an empty classroom doing some work and two girls walked in, I looked at them, pointed at the door and said, "Out!" They looked startled but complied.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:09 PM (2VST1)
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I worked IT for a high school. During lunch, I was in an empty classroom doing some work and two girls walked in, I looked at them, pointed at the door and said, "Out!" They looked startled but complied.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (tT6L1)
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THAT'S WHAT I SAID!!
- M. Pence
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (oSeBJ)
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Everybody gets one.
- M. Pence
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (oSeBJ)
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Everybody gets one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (WkNQM)
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This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall. The idea that “many just don’t want to” never computes with the elites.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (eNdzY)
It's the same with women's sports.
"Why don't men watch women's sports?!?!?"
Uh, WOMEN don't watch women's sports. Why should we?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (eNdzY)
It's the same with women's sports.
"Why don't men watch women's sports?!?!?"
Uh, WOMEN don't watch women's sports. Why should we?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (oSeBJ)
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Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (WkNQM)
I didn't demand anything, but I did speak with my Chemistry professor in college. I asked if he could do anything about my grade, since I was forever working with the assistant to figure out what in hell I was trying to learn. I spent hours trying to fit it into my piss-poor brain and it just didn't take. He gave me a C- instead of a fail grade because of the effort, and I promised I would not take another chemistry class as long as I lived.
I was fine until the uncertainty thing, and beyond that it was all gibberish to me.
Physics made sense, but chemistry is just magic, sort of like electricity.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (WkNQM)
I didn't demand anything, but I did speak with my Chemistry professor in college. I asked if he could do anything about my grade, since I was forever working with the assistant to figure out what in hell I was trying to learn. I spent hours trying to fit it into my piss-poor brain and it just didn't take. He gave me a C- instead of a fail grade because of the effort, and I promised I would not take another chemistry class as long as I lived.
I was fine until the uncertainty thing, and beyond that it was all gibberish to me.
Physics made sense, but chemistry is just magic, sort of like electricity.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (a4NoL)
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Ever have the conversation with HR about why you're not hiring enough females or minorities? They are not pleasant. I really hated HR with the heat of a burning sun.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (qKvR9)
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Here’s one example of how people aren’t taught to think anymore (from a willowed comment of mine):
You want people to research a subject?! They don’t know how! The old ways of taking 3’ x 5’ cards and taking notes on them from documented sources, and _paraphrasing_ the ideas in your own words is, apparently, no longer taught. That’s why they are always plagiarizing. They look up the references digitally then copy without restating ideas in their own words (that’s crucial - that makes sure you know the ideas, but use your own words), then they just pluck the copied bit, with or without citation, with or without understanding, into their presentation that they pass off as their own thoughts on the subject. Instant plagiarism! I saw it a lot in my latter years as a teacher.
You want people to research a subject?! They don’t know how! The old ways of taking 3’ x 5’ cards and taking notes on them from documented sources, and _paraphrasing_ the ideas in your own words is, apparently, no longer taught. That’s why they are always plagiarizing. They look up the references digitally then copy without restating ideas in their own words (that’s crucial - that makes sure you know the ideas, but use your own words), then they just pluck the copied bit, with or without citation, with or without understanding, into their presentation that they pass off as their own thoughts on the subject. Instant plagiarism! I saw it a lot in my latter years as a teacher.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (jHien)
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there sure is a lot of yoga pants on parade, most of them are well fitted too. many with bactrian dromedary feet.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (q9Puu)
One night on my job will have you campaigning to have yoga pants banned.
there sure is a lot of yoga pants on parade, most of them are well fitted too. many with bactrian dromedary feet.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:10 PM (q9Puu)
One night on my job will have you campaigning to have yoga pants banned.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (eNdzY)
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Uh, WOMEN don't watch women's sports. Why should we?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (oSeBJ)
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I dunno, I liked pro beach volleyball back in the day.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (oSeBJ)
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I dunno, I liked pro beach volleyball back in the day.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (tT6L1)
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I am not sorry I went to college. It helped me get some jobs. and I liked college. I am not sorry I went to graduate school and I am also a wife and mother. Colleges have major problems, yes and no, I don't think everybody should go, and I think Ivy League schools are a disaster.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (42Vb+)
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Yup. I'm not advocating for "no college." I *do* think college is pushed far too hard on far too many people, and has become a cargo cult "I must go because I must go because others before went" and it's stuid.
But the press *does* cover it that way. It's part of that vast complex pushing college at all costs, damn the value and damn the consequences.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:11 PM (42Vb+)
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Yup. I'm not advocating for "no college." I *do* think college is pushed far too hard on far too many people, and has become a cargo cult "I must go because I must go because others before went" and it's stuid.
But the press *does* cover it that way. It's part of that vast complex pushing college at all costs, damn the value and damn the consequences.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (WkNQM)
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So another judge, another mask, another embarrassment:
Whining "we are not political actors."
Yeah bitch, you are. You 1,000% are.
You're rotten through and through with politics.
You're just so pig-ignorant of reality that you deceive yourself that your political beliefs are just "common sense."
You know who doesn't have to prove they aren't political actors?
People who are not whining about being accused of being political actors.
PS: If you stupid bitches weren't all disgusting, craven political actors--how come every article has to refer to the President that appointed you?
If you stupid dripping brain sharts weren't political actors, the President who appointed you would be irrelevant.
Whining "we are not political actors."
Yeah bitch, you are. You 1,000% are.
You're rotten through and through with politics.
You're just so pig-ignorant of reality that you deceive yourself that your political beliefs are just "common sense."
You know who doesn't have to prove they aren't political actors?
People who are not whining about being accused of being political actors.
PS: If you stupid bitches weren't all disgusting, craven political actors--how come every article has to refer to the President that appointed you?
If you stupid dripping brain sharts weren't political actors, the President who appointed you would be irrelevant.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (NwfFc)
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If young men don't go to college, how will the higher ed social engineers program them to be good progressives?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
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You want people to research a subject?! They don’t know how! The old ways of taking 3’ x 5’ cards and taking notes on them from documented sources, and _paraphrasing_ the ideas in your own words is, apparently, no longer taught. That’s why they are always plagiarizing. They look up the references digitally then copy without restating ideas in their own words (that’s crucial - that makes sure you know the ideas, but use your own words), then they just pluck the copied bit, with or without citation, with or without understanding, into their presentation that they pass off as their own thoughts on the subject. Instant plagiarism! I saw it a lot in my latter years as a teacher.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (jHien)
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Flash cards are really helpful for the rote part of education. Loved 'em.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:12 PM (jHien)
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Flash cards are really helpful for the rote part of education. Loved 'em.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (WkNQM)
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Was it you who said "If they do boyfriend things FOR you, it's because they want to do boyfriend things TO you."?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating
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Yep. And I suspect 100% are aware of it and that they're knowingly using the men.
Which was fine in the past, but I suspect Gen X is about the last bunch that's going to pretend and play along. Which is kind of hilarious, but careful what you wish for.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating
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Yep. And I suspect 100% are aware of it and that they're knowingly using the men.
Which was fine in the past, but I suspect Gen X is about the last bunch that's going to pretend and play along. Which is kind of hilarious, but careful what you wish for.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (/wLGm)
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I work in a field predominated by college educated women
The amount of incompetence I see from them is just staggering, and they continued to get hired for plushy jobs over men because muy dei vaginas
Even funnier, women can’t stand working with other women. I work in a small team of all males, we had a new female coworker who was temporarily assigned to us, after her assignment ended she literally cried about having to leave us and go back to working in divisions filled with catty Karens.
I’ve worked for various different companies and it strikes me how I tend to see this pattern repeat itself
The amount of incompetence I see from them is just staggering, and they continued to get hired for plushy jobs over men because muy dei vaginas
Even funnier, women can’t stand working with other women. I work in a small team of all males, we had a new female coworker who was temporarily assigned to us, after her assignment ended she literally cried about having to leave us and go back to working in divisions filled with catty Karens.
I’ve worked for various different companies and it strikes me how I tend to see this pattern repeat itself
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (HYKHz)
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Demanding a grade change would never have occurred to me. Dropping classes happened a few times (prof was a dick who hated me from the start, for example, and I had no expectation that he or she would be fair in grading), though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I had a Economics professor who hated me because I was unavoidably late once to class and as I sat down he told me I had to leave . I told him no , I paid for the class. That this wasn’t high school. Worst grade I got in college but I wasn’t going to drop the class after that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I had a Economics professor who hated me because I was unavoidably late once to class and as I sat down he told me I had to leave . I told him no , I paid for the class. That this wasn’t high school. Worst grade I got in college but I wasn’t going to drop the class after that.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (VofaG)
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Expert on island capsizing and congresscritter Hank Johnson searches for the exact metaphor.
Daily Caller@DailyCaller
Democrat Rep. Hank Johnson: “I’m not a Latino at the Home Depot”
Daily Caller@DailyCaller
Democrat Rep. Hank Johnson: “I’m not a Latino at the Home Depot”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (L/fGl)
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Yeah men will watch women's sports. Not for the sport though, they watch because hot girls in tight outfits, like gymnasts and curling.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (2VST1)
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Healey wife just informed me there is a bitcoin named FartCoin.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (/U5Yz)
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Inflation destroyed wages. Wives went to work to help out the family. That *did* help in the immediate term, but helped compound things silently in the long term. And the bad behavior helping to drive inflation - that is, unchecked government spending a severing of ties between the federal budget and economic reality - continued unabated, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:48 PM
The minimum wage in the US in 1963 was $1.25. In 1963 I could go to the neighborhood bar down the street from my grandmothers house and buy a Reese cup for a nickel. I could buy 25 Reese cups for one hours work at minimum wage in 1963.
In 2025 the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, a Reese cup cost $1.25. In 2025 I can't even buy 6 Reese cups for one hours minimum wage. The average starting wage in my area is about $14.00, I still can't buy half of the number of Reese cups with one hours worth of work that I was able to buy in 1963.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 03:48 PM
The minimum wage in the US in 1963 was $1.25. In 1963 I could go to the neighborhood bar down the street from my grandmothers house and buy a Reese cup for a nickel. I could buy 25 Reese cups for one hours work at minimum wage in 1963.
In 2025 the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, a Reese cup cost $1.25. In 2025 I can't even buy 6 Reese cups for one hours minimum wage. The average starting wage in my area is about $14.00, I still can't buy half of the number of Reese cups with one hours worth of work that I was able to buy in 1963.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (e5NfL)
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (q9Puu)
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I am not sorry I went to college. It helped me get some jobs. and I liked college. I am not sorry I went to graduate school and I am also a wife and mother. Colleges have major problems, yes and no, I don't think everybody should go, and I think Ivy League schools are a disaster.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Fen, did you meet your husband in college?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Fen, did you meet your husband in college?
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (v0R5T)
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The first thing every student needs to learn when they first go to college is that "Fair" is the place with the elephants and the clowns. Nothing is fair and you're a hump if you think anyone wants it to be.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (dk77l)
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There's literally nothing stopping women from going to a STEM school and they will gladly hand out incentives to bring in women, but women simply don't sign up in the same numbers as men.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (7fElN)
This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall. The idea that “many just don’t want to” never computes with the elites.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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Those $60,000 sociology degrees aren't going to pay for themselves, h8rs.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:00 PM (7fElN)
This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall. The idea that “many just don’t want to” never computes with the elites.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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Those $60,000 sociology degrees aren't going to pay for themselves, h8rs.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (/wLGm)
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If young men don't go to college, how will the higher ed social engineers program them to be good progressives?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
In theory? By manufacturing generations of women who are good progressives. That way, in our pursuit of boobs, we'll say/do/vote for anything.
In reality, the political gender gap is massive, and still opening.
Like Anna Navarro's mouth.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
In theory? By manufacturing generations of women who are good progressives. That way, in our pursuit of boobs, we'll say/do/vote for anything.
In reality, the political gender gap is massive, and still opening.
Like Anna Navarro's mouth.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (oSeBJ)
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If young men don't go to college, how will the higher ed social engineers program them to be good progressives?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
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That's the real problem. Young people don't watch much TV anymore, don't read newspapers and increasingly check out of school. Why do you think they're so monomaniacal about controlling social media, and why do you think big, mainstream outfits like Bloomberg blame the problem of falling enrollment (insofar as it is a problem, and I do agree that it is in some ways, though for very different reasons) almost entirely on "influencers" leading people astray?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
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That's the real problem. Young people don't watch much TV anymore, don't read newspapers and increasingly check out of school. Why do you think they're so monomaniacal about controlling social media, and why do you think big, mainstream outfits like Bloomberg blame the problem of falling enrollment (insofar as it is a problem, and I do agree that it is in some ways, though for very different reasons) almost entirely on "influencers" leading people astray?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (WkNQM)
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142 I did have a "WTF?" conversation with a professor who gave me a bad grade on an exam because I gave a correct answer but not the answer that she secretly wanted. Seriously. There was nothing in the question or that was presented in class to indicate this was the case. I was not the only student who got burned by that either. She was immature and bitchy about it too.
Posted by: Professors
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A lot of professors were the smartest kids in the room in their k-12 and somewhat in their undergrad degrees. But the truth is in grad school, a lot of really bright people into it for the learning get turned off when exposed to the sausage factory making grad students into Phds. Lots of informal hazing, meetings, and other things, to turn off people that had the brains to succeed but not the actually desire to do so.
Closest you can say about a lot of college faculty is midwits of about 130+ iq. Some are much brighter but often those are treated badly within systems by their less gifted colleagues and often by students in evaluations etc.
You have to want to do it and very bright people often have other options--some bad like coffee barista and some good such as industry, etc
Posted by: Professors
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A lot of professors were the smartest kids in the room in their k-12 and somewhat in their undergrad degrees. But the truth is in grad school, a lot of really bright people into it for the learning get turned off when exposed to the sausage factory making grad students into Phds. Lots of informal hazing, meetings, and other things, to turn off people that had the brains to succeed but not the actually desire to do so.
Closest you can say about a lot of college faculty is midwits of about 130+ iq. Some are much brighter but often those are treated badly within systems by their less gifted colleagues and often by students in evaluations etc.
You have to want to do it and very bright people often have other options--some bad like coffee barista and some good such as industry, etc
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (ctrM5)
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I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
Corporations wanted more wage slaves for less pay and the government wanted more tax cattle. They won. We lost.
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So, how would that work exactly ? Woman/young woman becomes of age and..? what? how will she live? stay with her aging parents ? Get married and become her husband's ward ? Forever depend on someone for a handout ?
Corporations wanted more wage slaves for less pay and the government wanted more tax cattle. They won. We lost.
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So, how would that work exactly ? Woman/young woman becomes of age and..? what? how will she live? stay with her aging parents ? Get married and become her husband's ward ? Forever depend on someone for a handout ?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:16 PM (g47mK)
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I have no problem with anyone going to college. But not on my dime! Stupid laws and rules have done nothing but make things worse. You give something free with no consequences to people of course they will jump on it. Taxpayers are suppose to pay taxes to run the government not to give certain people a free ride. You sign the paper for a loan you are obligated to pay it back. The only ones getting anything out of this are the colleges. And they make up rules as to who will get in? The whole process is insane.
Posted by: Case at May 01, 2025 04:16 PM (OrSPY)
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182 Herpes simplex virus?
Posted by: What a terrible destination
huntsville, alabama
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (q9Puu)
Eh. Same same.
Posted by: What a terrible destination
huntsville, alabama
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (q9Puu)
Eh. Same same.
Posted by: I denounce myself. Sorta. at May 01, 2025 04:16 PM (TbWk/)
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The appropriate thing for older women to do is to teach younger women that there are no long-term benefits to years of (ahem) "experience" and single life.
The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2025 04:16 PM (fUDLX)
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Healey wife just informed me there is a bitcoin named FartCoin.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Must be a spinoff of DoggieCoin.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Must be a spinoff of DoggieCoin.
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2025 04:16 PM (v0R5T)
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Like a bullfighter, the press needs you to focus on the red cape so that it can divert you from the target.
Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (KtPtl)
That would be the fire hydrant behind the red cape.
Posted by: t-bird at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (KtPtl)
That would be the fire hydrant behind the red cape.
Posted by: Bugs Bunny knows things at May 01, 2025 04:16 PM (FCbAQ)
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> If I had considered it, it would have meant I was in the hospital.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (VNX3d)
Sure, that would be a valid reason.
> But I learned *long* after - just a few years ago - that my dad called the school and lit 'em up, too, for their absurdity. I was kinda mortified when I learned that LOL.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (WkNQM)
OTOH, this sounds like it was a bit more serious than the fact that you got a well-justified B.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (VNX3d)
Sure, that would be a valid reason.
> But I learned *long* after - just a few years ago - that my dad called the school and lit 'em up, too, for their absurdity. I was kinda mortified when I learned that LOL.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (WkNQM)
OTOH, this sounds like it was a bit more serious than the fact that you got a well-justified B.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (W5ArC)
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In addition to indoctrination, college encourages women to “go wild” with countless partners, destroying their ability to pair bond with a man, and thus, greatly increasing the chance of a happy traditional marriage, even if they reject feminism.
Posted by: Cray Cray at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (wfKZW)
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187 If young men don't go to college, how will the higher ed social engineers program them to be good progressives?
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
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That's the real problem. Young people don't watch much TV anymore, don't read newspapers and increasingly check out of school. Why do you think they're so monomaniacal about controlling social media, and why do you think big, mainstream outfits like Bloomberg blame the problem of falling enrollment (insofar as it is a problem, and I do agree that it is in some ways, though for very different reasons) almost entirely on "influencers" leading people astray?
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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It's dead Jim. The 20th Century industrialized control model is going to fail . The internet was the new printing press in effect.
Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at May 01, 2025 04:13 PM (Sf2cq)
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That's the real problem. Young people don't watch much TV anymore, don't read newspapers and increasingly check out of school. Why do you think they're so monomaniacal about controlling social media, and why do you think big, mainstream outfits like Bloomberg blame the problem of falling enrollment (insofar as it is a problem, and I do agree that it is in some ways, though for very different reasons) almost entirely on "influencers" leading people astray?
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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It's dead Jim. The 20th Century industrialized control model is going to fail . The internet was the new printing press in effect.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (ctrM5)
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Most adults don't know how not to be controlled by it.
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (jGJov)
And here we are posting on this site....
Posted by: brak at May 01, 2025 04:05 PM (jGJov)
And here we are posting on this site....
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (a4NoL)
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This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall.
They don't want women in STEM because they want more girl electricians and computer engineers. They want women in STEM because they believe that women can take over and change them into relativist emotion-driven fields like they did everything else.
They don't want women in STEM because they want more girl electricians and computer engineers. They want women in STEM because they believe that women can take over and change them into relativist emotion-driven fields like they did everything else.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (2VST1)
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I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
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So they've haremed themselves to a small group of "high-value" men who will gladly pipe them but ain't gonna marry them.
This is another one of those ways that men and women are different that modern young women are largely ignorant of.
Men are less interested in relationships and more interested in sex. So just because you can get Chad Hammerbone III to have sex with you doesn't mean you are getting a relationship out of him. Because from his perspective he might just want you for sex.
This is another one of those ways that men and women are different that modern young women are largely ignorant of.
Men are less interested in relationships and more interested in sex. So just because you can get Chad Hammerbone III to have sex with you doesn't mean you are getting a relationship out of him. Because from his perspective he might just want you for sex.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (t0Rmr)
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One night on my job will have you campaigning to have yoga pants banned.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
do you work in an inner city blue shit hole where ebonics is the primary language?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
do you work in an inner city blue shit hole where ebonics is the primary language?
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:18 PM (q9Puu)
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In theory? By manufacturing generations of women who are good progressives. That way, in our pursuit of boobs, we'll say/do/vote for anything. ...
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (oSeBJ)
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That might be the math, but it doesn't work that way. Would it, in a vacuum? I don't know. But it isn't a vacuum. In order for the scheme to work for, men have to have a chance to get some, and increasing numbers don't. The whole "believe what I believe if you want to go to bed with me" thing only works - insofar as it works at all - if the "go to bed" part happens.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:15 PM (oSeBJ)
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That might be the math, but it doesn't work that way. Would it, in a vacuum? I don't know. But it isn't a vacuum. In order for the scheme to work for, men have to have a chance to get some, and increasing numbers don't. The whole "believe what I believe if you want to go to bed with me" thing only works - insofar as it works at all - if the "go to bed" part happens.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:18 PM (WkNQM)
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Posted by: wth at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (v0R5T)
No; I met him after college. We worked together. He was paying his own way through college and so was taking longer than the standard four years, and we both worked at the writing and math lab (for students who needed help) at the school where my mother was a professor,
No; I met him after college. We worked together. He was paying his own way through college and so was taking longer than the standard four years, and we both worked at the writing and math lab (for students who needed help) at the school where my mother was a professor,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (42Vb+)
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196 In addition to indoctrination, college encourages women to “go wild” with countless partners, destroying their ability to pair bond with a man, and thus, greatly increasing the chance of a happy traditional marriage, even if they reject feminism.
Posted by: Cray Cray
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As a prof, I did not see that much actually in my particular students. Same with excessive drinking or drugs but in fairness, my students took my classes planning to be in law, federal workers, etc.
Have much less of an idea about the ones in Art, Theater, etc.
Posted by: Cray Cray
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As a prof, I did not see that much actually in my particular students. Same with excessive drinking or drugs but in fairness, my students took my classes planning to be in law, federal workers, etc.
Have much less of an idea about the ones in Art, Theater, etc.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (ctrM5)
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202 One night on my job will have you campaigning to have yoga pants banned.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
do you work in an inner city blue shit hole where ebonics is the primary language?
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:18 PM (q9Puu)
Any WalMart graveyard shift.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
do you work in an inner city blue shit hole where ebonics is the primary language?
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 01, 2025 04:18 PM (q9Puu)
Any WalMart graveyard shift.
Posted by: People of Walmart is real and horrifying at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (TbWk/)
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I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
Abducted by Amazons.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
Abducted by Amazons.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (g47mK)
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I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM
A Peaches sighting!
Ace is on vacation this week.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM
A Peaches sighting!
Ace is on vacation this week.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (kgE5c)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (42Vb+)
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The minimum wage in the US in 1963 was $1.25. In 1963 I could go to the neighborhood bar down the street from my grandmothers house and buy a Reese cup for a nickel. I could buy 25 Reese cups for one hours work at minimum wage in 1963.
In 2025 the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, a Reese cup cost $1.25. In 2025 I can't even buy 6 Reese cups for one hours minimum wage...
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Something I thought was neat when it was shown to me?
A popular value meal at a fast food restaurant (Big Mac, Whopper, etc) always roughly corresponds to one hour of unskilled labor. It's minimum wage normally, but this whole $15 / inflation thing found it's level, too.
In 2025 the minimum wage is $7.25 an hour, a Reese cup cost $1.25. In 2025 I can't even buy 6 Reese cups for one hours minimum wage...
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Something I thought was neat when it was shown to me?
A popular value meal at a fast food restaurant (Big Mac, Whopper, etc) always roughly corresponds to one hour of unskilled labor. It's minimum wage normally, but this whole $15 / inflation thing found it's level, too.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (/wLGm)
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I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
On leave. In Burma. Or Rhodesia.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
On leave. In Burma. Or Rhodesia.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (oSeBJ)
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In reality, the political gender gap is massive, and still opening.
Two trends that are getting a lot of discussion that amuse me...
1) Leftwing women that lament that the men they are attracted to have politics they hate.
2) Leftwing women that lament that men "pretend" to be progressive that use that to get them to have sex with them
Two trends that are getting a lot of discussion that amuse me...
1) Leftwing women that lament that the men they are attracted to have politics they hate.
2) Leftwing women that lament that men "pretend" to be progressive that use that to get them to have sex with them
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (t0Rmr)
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200 I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches
Vacay in Bangkok.
Posted by: Peaches
Vacay in Bangkok.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (/U5Yz)
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Ace is on vacation this week.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (kgE5c)
Gracias, amigo! One can only hope this involves Thai tranny hookers.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (kgE5c)
Gracias, amigo! One can only hope this involves Thai tranny hookers.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (14URa)
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I'll be pilloried for saying it, but the movement pushing women to join the workforce was massively wrong and harmed both men and women.
Corporations wanted more wage slaves for less pay and the government wanted more tax cattle. They won. We lost.
You're not wrong. I am fine with women getting a job if they want to, but pushing for them ALL to get a job, attacking women for wanting to be married, describing marriage as drudgery and misery at best and in most cases slavery and rape... that's where the problems came.
Women will seriously claim they will not submit to any man or do what he says, while bowing to their boss and obeying them. They will do it for money, but not love and family?
Corporations wanted more wage slaves for less pay and the government wanted more tax cattle. They won. We lost.
You're not wrong. I am fine with women getting a job if they want to, but pushing for them ALL to get a job, attacking women for wanting to be married, describing marriage as drudgery and misery at best and in most cases slavery and rape... that's where the problems came.
Women will seriously claim they will not submit to any man or do what he says, while bowing to their boss and obeying them. They will do it for money, but not love and family?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (2VST1)
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Excluding lawyers and doctors, what's the percentage of college graduates that retire in their degree field?
College is a scam pretending to be a non-racial aptitude exam.
College is a scam pretending to be a non-racial aptitude exam.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (NwfFc)
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I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
ace and garrett are on a romantic getaway
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (14URa)
ace and garrett are on a romantic getaway
Posted by: The LOOOOOVE BOOOOAT at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (TbWk/)
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196 In addition to indoctrination, college encourages women to “go wild” with countless partners, destroying their ability to pair bond with a man, and thus, greatly increasing the chance of a happy traditional marriage, even if they reject feminism.
Posted by: Cray Cray at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (wfKZW)
To be fair, it isn't just college doing this. The culture apparently thinks the only way women can interact with men is sexually. We know that is absolute crap. It is quite possible for a woman to know here worth and keep her legs firmly together in social situations.
It is also a man's responsibility to behave like a gentleman even in the confrontation of some oversexed harpy. It just doesn't happen much.
I have several men, particularly coworkers, whom I consider friends, and the feeling is mutual. I would never even consider having sex with any of them. I think the bullshit 60's sex crap has ruined that for most people. It is a shame.
Posted by: Cray Cray at May 01, 2025 04:17 PM (wfKZW)
To be fair, it isn't just college doing this. The culture apparently thinks the only way women can interact with men is sexually. We know that is absolute crap. It is quite possible for a woman to know here worth and keep her legs firmly together in social situations.
It is also a man's responsibility to behave like a gentleman even in the confrontation of some oversexed harpy. It just doesn't happen much.
I have several men, particularly coworkers, whom I consider friends, and the feeling is mutual. I would never even consider having sex with any of them. I think the bullshit 60's sex crap has ruined that for most people. It is a shame.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (a4NoL)
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Universities and colleges simply need to redefine themselves into working for their students rather than for themselves.
You’re never going to get an institution to place somebody else in place of their own self-interest. The wouldn’t survive if they did! What you need to do is make the self-interest of the institution coincide with the interests of the students. That should be doable, with the right incentives.
You’re never going to get an institution to place somebody else in place of their own self-interest. The wouldn’t survive if they did! What you need to do is make the self-interest of the institution coincide with the interests of the students. That should be doable, with the right incentives.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (jHien)
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I have no problem being alone with a woman. It’s being alone with kids that I avoid . I don’t even interact with them in a crowd /group . Which sucks because I love kids and used to like joking around with them, giving them tennis lessons, etc.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (VofaG)
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Ace joined the Foreign Legion.
Said he wanted to see new lands, meet new people, shower with men.
Ace joined the Foreign Legion.
Said he wanted to see new lands, meet new people, shower with men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (qKvR9)
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Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:19 PM (ctrM5)
When I was in college you couldn't drink till you were 21 and I was busy doing theatre. The only time I got drunk in college was at a cast party.
When I was in college you couldn't drink till you were 21 and I was busy doing theatre. The only time I got drunk in college was at a cast party.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (42Vb+)
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Ace obviously used the time machine and noticed Peaches was going to make an appearance, hence the week long vacation.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (tT6L1)
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Ace is in a ski lodge with a bunch of ski bunnies complimenting him on his luxurious ewok fur.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (2VST1)
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... You're not wrong. I am fine with women getting a job if they want to, but pushing for them ALL to get a job, attacking women for wanting to be married, describing marriage as drudgery and misery at best and in most cases slavery and rape... that's where the problems came. ...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (2VST1)
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The disparagement and humiliation of women who wanted to be wives and mothers was spectacularly damaging.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (2VST1)
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The disparagement and humiliation of women who wanted to be wives and mothers was spectacularly damaging.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (WkNQM)
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What, no boobs?
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (Axc90)
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You can find old fast food/grocery store ads on youtube and the like to see what the real inflation rate has been.
And it is many, many times higher then the official rate.
You can find old fast food/grocery store ads on youtube and the like to see what the real inflation rate has been.
And it is many, many times higher then the official rate.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (t0Rmr)
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When you read stories in liberal media about the "decline" of white men it is either "gosh how did that happen?" or "they deserved it because they suck." Not a mention of the fact that white men have been villified and there are "programs" to advance every demographic group except white men. "Women in STEM!!" "Affirmative action" in higher ed. and hiring. Minority and women set asides for government contracts. Add in destruction of traditional support and development organizations like Boy Scouts and churches, and the destruction of the traditional family. Plus the disappearance of "factory," mining, and other blue collar jobs that got offshored to Chyna (which de-industrialization became the official policy of the US Government starting in the early 90's).
These liberal "thinkpieces" would never want to discuss these issues as root causes because it runs counter to their mantras like "implicit bias," the "glass ceiling," colonialism, et al.
These liberal "thinkpieces" would never want to discuss these issues as root causes because it runs counter to their mantras like "implicit bias," the "glass ceiling," colonialism, et al.
Posted by: Paladin at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (zIa5F)
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> 202 One night on my job will have you campaigning to have yoga pants banned.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
I've often said that those should be subject to regulations similar to those for tires -- i.e., a maximum PSI rating.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
I've often said that those should be subject to regulations similar to those for tires -- i.e., a maximum PSI rating.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (W5ArC)
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Those $60,000 sociology degrees aren't going to pay for themselves, h8rs.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too
And that's why Starbucks venti latte should cost $25.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too
And that's why Starbucks venti latte should cost $25.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (L/fGl)
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The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
Posted by: rickb223
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Depends on the persons involved and the marriage itself. Been happily married, more or less, for over thirty years and together as a couple for longer than that.
A clue is stability of marriage in the parents of both couples. Not perfect, but a clue.
Posted by: rickb223
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Depends on the persons involved and the marriage itself. Been happily married, more or less, for over thirty years and together as a couple for longer than that.
A clue is stability of marriage in the parents of both couples. Not perfect, but a clue.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (ctrM5)
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Closest you can say about a lot of college faculty is midwits of about 130+ iq. -whig-
130 is midwit?
Huh. I guess I assumed mid-wit was someone just above average, 105-115 as a rough guide, and studied hard.
130 is midwit?
Huh. I guess I assumed mid-wit was someone just above average, 105-115 as a rough guide, and studied hard.
Posted by: Bugs Bunny knows things at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (FCbAQ)
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Ace joined the Foreign Legion.
Said he wanted to see new lands, meet new people, shower with men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (qKvR9)
So THAT'S why he's been learning French!
Ace joined the Foreign Legion.
Said he wanted to see new lands, meet new people, shower with men.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (qKvR9)
So THAT'S why he's been learning French!
Posted by: It all makes sense now at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (TbWk/)
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I have no problem being alone with a woman.
I LIKE being alone with women. But its professionally unwise and unsafe to do so.
I LIKE being alone with women. But its professionally unwise and unsafe to do so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (2VST1)
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Excluding lawyers and doctors, what's the percentage of college graduates that retire in their degree field? ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (NwfFc)
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I worked in my field of study for about three months. Total. At the beginning.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (NwfFc)
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I worked in my field of study for about three months. Total. At the beginning.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (WkNQM)
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Healey wife just informed me there is a bitcoin named FartCoin.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (/U5Yz)
That is like saying there is a Coke named Pepsi.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:14 PM (/U5Yz)
That is like saying there is a Coke named Pepsi.
Posted by: Doof at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (vf0Y9)
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Yup. For every Harvard, there are dozens of Antiochs. The college where I went is not going to survive what's coming.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:02 PM (WkNQM)
I used to date an Antioch grad. MA in Women's Studies, worked in her company's HR for a few years before leaving to be an HR consultant for more $. Weird chick, but a tiger in the sack. All her friends were lefty lesbians, except for the men she dated. After a brief period of bi exploration in college, she was enthusiastically heterosexual and had an odd, blue-collar guy fetish.
She dumped me because she found out I'd voted for Dubya in '04.
Yup. For every Harvard, there are dozens of Antiochs. The college where I went is not going to survive what's coming.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:02 PM (WkNQM)
I used to date an Antioch grad. MA in Women's Studies, worked in her company's HR for a few years before leaving to be an HR consultant for more $. Weird chick, but a tiger in the sack. All her friends were lefty lesbians, except for the men she dated. After a brief period of bi exploration in college, she was enthusiastically heterosexual and had an odd, blue-collar guy fetish.
She dumped me because she found out I'd voted for Dubya in '04.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (y9nCu)
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Now I'm hearing that Zimbabwe is asking for the whites to come back.
Some well-meaning journalist went to Zimbabwe and was shocked to learn that there was considerable nostalgia for the old government among the black population.
Sure, the old government was racist and oppressive, but there was always enough to eat, and the white government didn't engage in the wholesale slaughter of dissidents the way Mugabe's government did.
Some well-meaning journalist went to Zimbabwe and was shocked to learn that there was considerable nostalgia for the old government among the black population.
Sure, the old government was racist and oppressive, but there was always enough to eat, and the white government didn't engage in the wholesale slaughter of dissidents the way Mugabe's government did.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (xTIDn)
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Universities and colleges simply need to redefine themselves into working for their students rather than for themselves. ...
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (jHien)
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What's funny is that if you were to ask them, most will say it's exactly this that's bankrupting them.
See the stuff from Whig above on things like the swanky facilities. All there to draw in the customer, and crushing them in debt.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (jHien)
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What's funny is that if you were to ask them, most will say it's exactly this that's bankrupting them.
See the stuff from Whig above on things like the swanky facilities. All there to draw in the customer, and crushing them in debt.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (2VST1)
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Border Czar Tom Homan Signals Imminent Arrests for Sanctuary State Officials – “Wait Until You See What’s Coming. I Meant What I Said”
It must be a day that ends in Y.
It must be a day that ends in Y.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (/U5Yz)
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The appropriate thing for older women to do is to teach younger women that there are no long-term benefits to years of (ahem) "experience" and single life.
The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
Posted by: rickb223 a
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This isn't wrong. Outside of religious values, in modern America there is no benefit to the man that can't be had by simply living with the woman.
Related: It's interesting how every older man I know does everything he can to help pass on wisdom and experience to younger men. Yes they'll tease and have fun, but they really do want the young men to learn/gain from their mistakes and move ahead. Advance society. Make their own lives better, make the community better, and make everyones lives better.
The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
Posted by: rickb223 a
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This isn't wrong. Outside of religious values, in modern America there is no benefit to the man that can't be had by simply living with the woman.
Related: It's interesting how every older man I know does everything he can to help pass on wisdom and experience to younger men. Yes they'll tease and have fun, but they really do want the young men to learn/gain from their mistakes and move ahead. Advance society. Make their own lives better, make the community better, and make everyones lives better.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (/wLGm)
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I've been MIA for a while but where da fuque is Ace? Does he need prayers???
Posted by: Peaches
Vacay in Bangkok.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
So yes.
Posted by: Peaches
Vacay in Bangkok.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
So yes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (L/fGl)
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I have no problem being alone with a woman.
I LIKE being alone with women. But its professionally unwise and unsafe to do so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (2VST1)
Never had a problem with it professionally .
I LIKE being alone with women. But its professionally unwise and unsafe to do so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:22 PM (2VST1)
Never had a problem with it professionally .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (VofaG)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (2VST1)
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What, no boobs of the good kind?
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What, no boobs of the good kind?
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (Axc90)
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216 Excluding lawyers and doctors, what's the percentage of college graduates that retire in their degree field?
College is a scam pretending to be a non-racial aptitude exam.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (NwfFc)
I would add architects and engineers to that list. There are plenty of professions besides doctors and lawyers that require higher education. Architects need either a five year or six year degree to become registered. That notwithstanding, I've met some seriously idiotic architects in my career.
College is a scam pretending to be a non-racial aptitude exam.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:20 PM (NwfFc)
I would add architects and engineers to that list. There are plenty of professions besides doctors and lawyers that require higher education. Architects need either a five year or six year degree to become registered. That notwithstanding, I've met some seriously idiotic architects in my career.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (a4NoL)
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this morning/noon Waltz head fake was impressive
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (42Vb+)
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She dumped me because she found out I'd voted for Dubya in '04.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (y9nCu)
Bullet status - dodged.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2025 04:23 PM (y9nCu)
Bullet status - dodged.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (oSeBJ)
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So yes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (L/fGl)
I said prayers, not antibiotics.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (L/fGl)
I said prayers, not antibiotics.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (14URa)
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After a brief period of bi exploration in college, she was enthusiastically heterosexual and had an odd, blue-collar guy fetish.
Saw a female comedian that said she got tired of dating guys because of the emotional mismatch and decided to try dating another girl.
And it went great until it was sexy time and her GF dropped trou and she found she was 100% straight.
Ha ha.
But, I suspect a lot of college aged women get told men are evil and horrible and they shouldn't date them only to find out that their own biology disagrees with that assessment.
Saw a female comedian that said she got tired of dating guys because of the emotional mismatch and decided to try dating another girl.
And it went great until it was sexy time and her GF dropped trou and she found she was 100% straight.
Ha ha.
But, I suspect a lot of college aged women get told men are evil and horrible and they shouldn't date them only to find out that their own biology disagrees with that assessment.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (t0Rmr)
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Ace got trapped on the top shelf.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
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I said prayers, not antibiotics.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (14URa)
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Hah!
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (14URa)
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Hah!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (tT6L1)
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*Excluding lawyers and doctors, what's the percentage of college graduates that retire in their degree field?*
I think it's pretty high for engineers.
I think it's pretty high for engineers.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (dg+HA)
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Excluding lawyers and doctors, what's the percentage of college graduates that retire in their degree field?
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Why exclude those two professions ?
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Why exclude those two professions ?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (oSeBJ)
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Now I'm hearing that Zimbabwe is asking for the whites to come back.
Even Charlie Brown wouldn't fall for that
Even Charlie Brown wouldn't fall for that
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (2VST1)
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Ace got trapped on the top shelf.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
Top shelf Val-U-Rite?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
Top shelf Val-U-Rite?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (VNX3d)
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83 Don't miss the part where the corporations pushed for women to become mostly useless, disposable, interchangeable widgets the same as men.
Boron Cobbie -
It sure was generous of some corporations to offer to pay for abortion travel for their women cogs/employees.
Boron Cobbie -
It sure was generous of some corporations to offer to pay for abortion travel for their women cogs/employees.
Posted by: fozzy at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (zH2yS)
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252 Ace got trapped on the top shelf.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
That's been my fear since I realized he was MIA - that there had been some horrible, under-reported shelving tragedy. Whew!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
That's been my fear since I realized he was MIA - that there had been some horrible, under-reported shelving tragedy. Whew!
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (14URa)
Posted by: David French at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (t0Rmr)
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Doctors do quit. Lawyers probably more so.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
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Ace got trapped on the top shelf.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
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Thankfully, the shelf has a strong chance of collapsing soon!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (RIvkX)
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Thankfully, the shelf has a strong chance of collapsing soon!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (WkNQM)
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When I was in college you couldn't drink till you were 21 and I was busy doing theatre. The only time I got drunk in college was at a cast party.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think more of the problem is binge drinking and based on my previous grad student and undergrad observations centered to some extent on the fraternities and sororities. Socialization revolving around alcohol to lessen inhibitions and regular parties at the campuses I have been on.
The place I taught was a striving school with a fair number of non traditional students (less so as time went on) that were goal oriented and the traditional 18-24 year olds and because it was at the right place at the right time, it exploded in enrollment during a time when most schools were beginning to lose students.
Our campus did not have formal Greek organizations until about ten years after I started teaching there and Greek is still not really a big item there as a lot of our students worked.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think more of the problem is binge drinking and based on my previous grad student and undergrad observations centered to some extent on the fraternities and sororities. Socialization revolving around alcohol to lessen inhibitions and regular parties at the campuses I have been on.
The place I taught was a striving school with a fair number of non traditional students (less so as time went on) that were goal oriented and the traditional 18-24 year olds and because it was at the right place at the right time, it exploded in enrollment during a time when most schools were beginning to lose students.
Our campus did not have formal Greek organizations until about ten years after I started teaching there and Greek is still not really a big item there as a lot of our students worked.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (ctrM5)
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I’m getting ready to fire my doctor.
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (hGxWW)
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Related: It's interesting how every older man I know does everything he can to help pass on wisdom and experience to younger men. Yes they'll tease and have fun, but they really do want the young men to learn/gain from their mistakes and move ahead. Advance society. Make their own lives better, make the community better, and make everyones lives better.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (/wLGm)
You have to be careful about that too. Following the "wisdom and experience" of certain older men fucked me over pretty hard, because I was overly credulous and their understanding of the world and society was, in retrospect, extremely ossified. And they aren't necessarily out to help you either. So, listen to what they have to say but carefully examine it and make sure it matches reality. And don't ignore your gut, especially if it's screaming at you to throw on the brakes.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:24 PM (/wLGm)
You have to be careful about that too. Following the "wisdom and experience" of certain older men fucked me over pretty hard, because I was overly credulous and their understanding of the world and society was, in retrospect, extremely ossified. And they aren't necessarily out to help you either. So, listen to what they have to say but carefully examine it and make sure it matches reality. And don't ignore your gut, especially if it's screaming at you to throw on the brakes.
Posted by: Older and wiser aren't synonymous. at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (TbWk/)
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They have some of the most beautiful and sexy women in the world.
Posted by: David French at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (t0Rmr)
There ya go, assuming gender . . .
Posted by: David French at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (t0Rmr)
There ya go, assuming gender . . .
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (14URa)
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It is also a man's responsibility to behave like a gentleman even in the confrontation of some oversexed harpy. It just doesn't happen much.
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The trick being that this doesn't happen for men.
A lot of women (I'm not directing this at you) think men can have sex / access to sex as easily as they can. Nothing can be farther from the truth.
IIRC an average looking nobody woman walking down the street has the equivalent sexual draw / opportunity to a world-famous multimillionaire A-list celebrity male. That's how big the gap is.
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The trick being that this doesn't happen for men.
A lot of women (I'm not directing this at you) think men can have sex / access to sex as easily as they can. Nothing can be farther from the truth.
IIRC an average looking nobody woman walking down the street has the equivalent sexual draw / opportunity to a world-famous multimillionaire A-list celebrity male. That's how big the gap is.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (/wLGm)
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repeating:
The White House Launches Familiar Looking Website for 'Trusted News Sites and Resources'
townhall.com/ tipsheet/ leahbarkoukis/ 2025/05/01/ the-white-house- wire- n2656378
that's the source
here's a link:
https://tinyurl.com/bdzeja53
The White House Launches Familiar Looking Website for 'Trusted News Sites and Resources'
townhall.com/ tipsheet/ leahbarkoukis/ 2025/05/01/ the-white-house- wire- n2656378
that's the source
here's a link:
https://tinyurl.com/bdzeja53
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (0duCh)
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According to the probe, my roast is still under a hundred degrees. Gonna be a while!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (WkNQM)
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Since there are fewer men in college it leads the female population in those colleges to have to compromise which means more sex and less relationship stuff.
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No one wants to explain to these future girl bosses that it's nearly impossible due to evolution and hormones for her to pair-bond after more than one maybe 2 partners.
But that biological drive to have a husband who takes care of her children never goes away.
And Daddy Government is a piss-poor substitute.
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No one wants to explain to these future girl bosses that it's nearly impossible due to evolution and hormones for her to pair-bond after more than one maybe 2 partners.
But that biological drive to have a husband who takes care of her children never goes away.
And Daddy Government is a piss-poor substitute.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (NwfFc)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (2VST1)
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Excluding lawyers and doctors, what's the percentage of college graduates that retire in their degree field?
_________.
I bet it's actually higher for engineering graduates than lawyers. At least a quarter of law school grads probably never do anything law related.
_________.
I bet it's actually higher for engineering graduates than lawyers. At least a quarter of law school grads probably never do anything law related.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (qke8h)
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I thought Ace was in astronaut training this week.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Axc90)
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Hard to understand why a decade or two of nothing but demonizing white males would have any sort of negative impact on their sense of self worth. And why they'd opt out of attending a 4 year struggle session where they're demonized some more at great cost to themselves.
Truly staggers the imagination.
Truly staggers the imagination.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Q4IgG)
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Re the real inflation rate -
Look at $1.25 in 90% silver quarters in 1962, the last year we were on full silver coinage. The amount of silver in those coins is about $30 in USD today (based on the recent surge in precious metal spot prices). That’s the real inflation.
Look at $1.25 in 90% silver quarters in 1962, the last year we were on full silver coinage. The amount of silver in those coins is about $30 in USD today (based on the recent surge in precious metal spot prices). That’s the real inflation.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (jHien)
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Never had a problem with it professionally .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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I haven't either.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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I haven't either.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (ctrM5)
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Bullet status - dodged.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (oSeBJ)
Nah. I knew it was just a matter of time.
Bullet status - dodged.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:25 PM (oSeBJ)
Nah. I knew it was just a matter of time.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (y9nCu)
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According to the probe, my roast is still under a hundred degrees. Gonna be a while!
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phrasing or no phrasing ?
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phrasing or no phrasing ?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (g47mK)
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I was once on a board of trustees and was one of two non-doctor non-lawyers and they were mostly very inept. I'm sure they were great within their fields but had no idea when they were out of their depths.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (RIvkX)
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The disparagement and humiliation of women who wanted to be wives and mothers was spectacularly damaging.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (WkNQM)
I grew up in the heart of that. Having babies would have been the end of the world as we knew it. Utter malarkey in every respect.
Now women are going to great lengths to have the babies they can no longer produce the old fashioned way, because they didn't do so during their fertile years. That's monumentally sad, and equally damaging. Particularly to the kids. It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (WkNQM)
I grew up in the heart of that. Having babies would have been the end of the world as we knew it. Utter malarkey in every respect.
Now women are going to great lengths to have the babies they can no longer produce the old fashioned way, because they didn't do so during their fertile years. That's monumentally sad, and equally damaging. Particularly to the kids. It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (a4NoL)
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262 Doctors do quit. Lawyers probably more so.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
They also develop substance abuse problems and kill themselves at very high rates. Doctors, lawyers, and dentists I believe have the worst incidence of mental health, substance abuse, and suicide of all "white collar" professions.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
They also develop substance abuse problems and kill themselves at very high rates. Doctors, lawyers, and dentists I believe have the worst incidence of mental health, substance abuse, and suicide of all "white collar" professions.
Posted by: Sometimes there's just so much you can take at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (TbWk/)
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A lot of women (I'm not directing this at you) think men can have sex / access to sex as easily as they can. Nothing can be farther from the truth.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (/wLGm)
I have pointed this out to women in the past.
"If you went outside right now and just screamed 'who wants free, no-strings sex?' you'd have a line around the building.
If I did it, I'd go to prison."
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (/wLGm)
I have pointed this out to women in the past.
"If you went outside right now and just screamed 'who wants free, no-strings sex?' you'd have a line around the building.
If I did it, I'd go to prison."
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (oSeBJ)
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As Insty likes to say, you can study disparities between women and men all you want as long as you conclude women are better.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (NwfFc)
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This blonde in a dress has never regretted the MRS degree she picked up at Cornell:
http://tiny.cc/kfei001
http://tiny.cc/kfei001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (WkNQM)
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Don't miss the part where the corporations pushed for women to become mostly useless, disposable, interchangeable widgets the same as men.
Boron Cobbie -
It sure was generous of some corporations to offer to pay for abortion travel for their women cogs/employees.
Posted by: fozzy
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Good point, I forgot about that. And it was celebrated.
Lots of people don't realize that a week after you've left your job nobody even misses you. A month after you're gone most people don't remember you worked there. A year? They don't remember your name.
But yeah, that's a lot better than a family and laughing children.
Boron Cobbie -
It sure was generous of some corporations to offer to pay for abortion travel for their women cogs/employees.
Posted by: fozzy
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Good point, I forgot about that. And it was celebrated.
Lots of people don't realize that a week after you've left your job nobody even misses you. A month after you're gone most people don't remember you worked there. A year? They don't remember your name.
But yeah, that's a lot better than a family and laughing children.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (/wLGm)
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Vice President JD Vance had to cast a tie-breaking vote to thwart efforts to stop President Donald Trump’s tariffs after three Republicans opted to side with Democrats.
The dirty R's:
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME),
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).
The dirty R's:
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME),
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (/U5Yz)
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Hard to understand why a decade or two of nothing but demonizing white males would have any sort of negative impact on their sense of self worth.
Yeah I shrug at the man bashing stuff, whatever, enjoy your future with 15 cats. But I can see where some poor guy that grew up his entire life being told to shut up and stop being a boy and all men are evil and we need to eliminate men from history and culture might suffer from it.
Yeah I shrug at the man bashing stuff, whatever, enjoy your future with 15 cats. But I can see where some poor guy that grew up his entire life being told to shut up and stop being a boy and all men are evil and we need to eliminate men from history and culture might suffer from it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (2VST1)
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274 I thought Ace was in astronaut training this week.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Axc90)
I hear he looks fabulous in the blue bell bottoms.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Axc90)
I hear he looks fabulous in the blue bell bottoms.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (a4NoL)
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Doctors do quit. Lawyers probably more so.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
I find that a lot of lawyers get involved in other businesses or start ups through their contacts being an attorney.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:26 PM (g47mK)
I find that a lot of lawyers get involved in other businesses or start ups through their contacts being an attorney.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (Axc90)
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Slightest doubt a second is the first opinion to take/
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (0duCh)
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phrasing or no phrasing ?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (g47mK)
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I was thinking euphemism.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (g47mK)
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I was thinking euphemism.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (tT6L1)
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Hard to understand why a decade or two of nothing but demonizing white males would have any sort of negative impact on their sense of self worth. And why they'd opt out of attending a 4 year struggle session where they're demonized some more at great cost to themselves.
Truly staggers the imagination.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Q4IgG)
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Utterly baffling.
Truly staggers the imagination.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 01, 2025 04:28 PM (Q4IgG)
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Utterly baffling.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (WkNQM)
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I grew up in the heart of that. Having babies would have been the end of the world as we knew it. Utter malarkey in every respect.
Now women are going to great lengths to have the babies they can no longer produce the old fashioned way, because they didn't do so during their fertile years. That's monumentally sad, and equally damaging. Particularly to the kids. It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (a4NoL)
Not to mention the higher risks of pregnancy complications and birth defects.
Now women are going to great lengths to have the babies they can no longer produce the old fashioned way, because they didn't do so during their fertile years. That's monumentally sad, and equally damaging. Particularly to the kids. It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:29 PM (a4NoL)
Not to mention the higher risks of pregnancy complications and birth defects.
Posted by: Not good for anyone at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (TbWk/)
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Scratch the sarc tag. Fat finger
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (0duCh)
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But yeah, that's a lot better than a family and laughing children.
Lets put it this way: when you're lying in bed dying, your coworkers are not gonna surround you and send you off with love and memories. You might get a card.
Lets put it this way: when you're lying in bed dying, your coworkers are not gonna surround you and send you off with love and memories. You might get a card.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (2VST1)
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I’m getting ready to fire my doctor.
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (hGxWW)
Going with HordeCare, I see...
I’m getting ready to fire my doctor.
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2025 04:27 PM (hGxWW)
Going with HordeCare, I see...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (y9nCu)
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I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that since 2009 and obama changing the rules males on college campuses were fair game for any female to claim they had raped them.
A decade ago, a male attending my old college had about a 5% annual chance of being formally charged with sexual assault.
Who would send their son to a place like that?
A decade ago, a male attending my old college had about a 5% annual chance of being formally charged with sexual assault.
Who would send their son to a place like that?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (xTIDn)
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285 This blonde in a dress has never regretted the MRS degree she picked up at Cornell:
http://tiny.cc/kfei001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Nice hourglass shape.
http://tiny.cc/kfei001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Nice hourglass shape.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:31 PM (/U5Yz)
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Sure, the old government was racist and oppressive, but there was always enough to eat, and the white government didn't engage in the wholesale slaughter of dissidents the way Mugabe's government did.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. Even if your neighbor is Bob Mugabe.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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The grass always looks greener on the other side of the fence. Even if your neighbor is Bob Mugabe.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 04:32 PM (Dv3i1)
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Yeah I shrug at the man bashing stuff, whatever, enjoy your future with 15 cats. But I can see where some poor guy that grew up his entire life being told to shut up and stop being a boy and all men are evil and we need to eliminate men from history and culture might suffer from it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (2VST1)
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It takes a toll. Even if you shrug it off and laugh at them - and a lot of men thankfully do exactly that - it isn't going to be an inducement to go spend six figures and mortgage your future to get it in big doses.
A big part of "why don't men to college" is money, but another really big part is alienation.
Congrats! You alienated your customers!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (2VST1)
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It takes a toll. Even if you shrug it off and laugh at them - and a lot of men thankfully do exactly that - it isn't going to be an inducement to go spend six figures and mortgage your future to get it in big doses.
A big part of "why don't men to college" is money, but another really big part is alienation.
Congrats! You alienated your customers!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:32 PM (WkNQM)
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A Mannix boobette! Bravo!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 01, 2025 04:32 PM (dg+HA)
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http://tiny.cc/kfei001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Nice hourglass shape.
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She knows what time it is!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Nice hourglass shape.
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She knows what time it is!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (Dv3i1)
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The dirty R's:
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME),
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (/U5Yz)
The republican party up here has been censuring Murky along with the turncoats in the state legislature. At some point, we WILL be rid of this turbulent idiot.
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME),
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY).
Posted by: Maj. Healey at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (/U5Yz)
The republican party up here has been censuring Murky along with the turncoats in the state legislature. At some point, we WILL be rid of this turbulent idiot.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (a4NoL)
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I am reminded of the Hartford HS honor student. An illiterate Puerto Rican girl who was then accepted to UConn. How was the application even submitted? Did someone check the sex and race boxes and that's all it took?
Anyway she is suing the state to win the ghetto lottery.
Anyway she is suing the state to win the ghetto lottery.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (wBaIH)
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I think doctors kill themselves because no one fvcking listens to them.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (RIvkX)
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Insightful analysis and good read, Mannix -- thanks!
Posted by: ShainS at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (Br9ks)
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It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
A friend of mine had her two kids in her early 40s.
She's glad she had them, but it was really, really difficult for her physically.
A friend of mine had her two kids in her early 40s.
She's glad she had them, but it was really, really difficult for her physically.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (xTIDn)
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It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
Yeah I always think of that when some 60 year old guy or something has a kid. OK fine, you're still packing ammunition but are you gonna be the one that wakes up in the middle of the night to feed the baby? Are you gonna be the one that changes his diaper when you want to take a nap?
Yeah I always think of that when some 60 year old guy or something has a kid. OK fine, you're still packing ammunition but are you gonna be the one that wakes up in the middle of the night to feed the baby? Are you gonna be the one that changes his diaper when you want to take a nap?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (2VST1)
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305 The republican party up here has been censuring Murky along with the turncoats in the state legislature. At some point, we WILL be rid of this turbulent idiot.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (a4NoL)
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Yeah.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (a4NoL)
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Yeah.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
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PSA :
"Cybersecurity researchers uncovered dangerous iPhone flaws that let hackers infiltrate any device linked to the same Wi-Fi network.
The team at Oligo Security discovered 23 vulnerabilities in AirPlay, which allows users to stream audio, video and photos from Apple devices to other smart devices."
"Cybersecurity researchers uncovered dangerous iPhone flaws that let hackers infiltrate any device linked to the same Wi-Fi network.
The team at Oligo Security discovered 23 vulnerabilities in AirPlay, which allows users to stream audio, video and photos from Apple devices to other smart devices."
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:34 PM (g47mK)
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Yeah I always think of that when some 60 year old guy or something has a kid. OK fine, you're still packing ammunition but are you gonna be the one that wakes up in the middle of the night to feed the baby? Are you gonna be the one that changes his diaper when you want to take a nap?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (2VST1)
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If you're over age 60, good chance you're awake anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (2VST1)
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If you're over age 60, good chance you're awake anyway.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:34 PM (tT6L1)
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Yeah.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
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Hmmmm. Maybe. It won't surprise me if the median expiry age of senators currently under 70 is only around 115 or 120.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
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Hmmmm. Maybe. It won't surprise me if the median expiry age of senators currently under 70 is only around 115 or 120.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:34 PM (WkNQM)
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How was the application even submitted? Did someone check the sex and race boxes and that's all it took?
Apparently she used a program to translate speech into text and sent that in.
Apparently she used a program to translate speech into text and sent that in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (2VST1)
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I hate many things, as you know, but I really do hate the Metric System bullshit. It's commie faggot bullshit.
Remember this shit from the 80's?
https://is.gd/Wx9r0x
I hate many things, as you know, but I really do hate the Metric System bullshit. It's commie faggot bullshit.
Remember this shit from the 80's?
https://is.gd/Wx9r0x
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (qKvR9)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:30 PM (WkNQM)
Not that anybody by me is looking at her hands, but why is that a number of the women whose pictures you post seem to have unnaturally long fingers (), which makes me think that some of them aren't actually women.
I'm glad her MRS degree allowed her to send out her photo to generic sexy women site on the net,
Not that anybody by me is looking at her hands, but why is that a number of the women whose pictures you post seem to have unnaturally long fingers (), which makes me think that some of them aren't actually women.
I'm glad her MRS degree allowed her to send out her photo to generic sexy women site on the net,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (42Vb+)
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314 Hmmmm. Maybe. It won't surprise me if the median expiry age of senators currently under 70 is only around 115 or 120.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:34 PM (WkNQM)
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Someone has to be the higher end of the range that creates that median.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:34 PM (WkNQM)
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Someone has to be the higher end of the range that creates that median.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)
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I bet the 60 y-olds you are having kids do not expect to be the one taking care of it.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)
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311 305 The republican party up here has been censuring Murky along with the turncoats in the state legislature. At some point, we WILL be rid of this turbulent idiot.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (a4NoL)
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Yeah.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
AK GOP could buy her a new house in the Yukon, and move her in there while she's in DC. Since her primary residence isn't in AK, she can't represent them anymore.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (a4NoL)
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Yeah.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
AK GOP could buy her a new house in the Yukon, and move her in there while she's in DC. Since her primary residence isn't in AK, she can't represent them anymore.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (VNX3d)
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Kentucky has way too much influence on my life here in Texas.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (VofaG)
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A lot of women (I'm not directing this at you) think men can have sex / access to sex as easily as they can. Nothing can be farther from the truth.
I've seen this come up on the Whatever Podcast.
Average Jane is comparing herself to her "boyfriend" Chad McRichyrich III. Said boyfriend is wealthy, charismatic and good looking and has several other "girlfriends" she doesn't what to think about. She isn't comparing herself to Average John, let alone Bob her coworker at Starbucks.
I've seen this come up on the Whatever Podcast.
Average Jane is comparing herself to her "boyfriend" Chad McRichyrich III. Said boyfriend is wealthy, charismatic and good looking and has several other "girlfriends" she doesn't what to think about. She isn't comparing herself to Average John, let alone Bob her coworker at Starbucks.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (t0Rmr)
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I think doctors kill themselves because no one fvcking listens to them.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (RIvkX)
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Killing others and/or yourself is the ultimate way to "play God."
* AAAAAAAND ... once again, the Nihilistic Satanic Leftist Death Cult has entered the chat *
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (RIvkX)
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Killing others and/or yourself is the ultimate way to "play God."
* AAAAAAAND ... once again, the Nihilistic Satanic Leftist Death Cult has entered the chat *
Posted by: ShainS at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (Br9ks)
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I bet the 60 y-olds you are having kids do not expect to be the one taking care of it.
Yeah, true, John Wayne wasn't changing any diapers, he had Consuela for that.
Yeah, true, John Wayne wasn't changing any diapers, he had Consuela for that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (qKvR9)
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This, right here, encapsulates why this “not enough girls are going into STEM fields drives me up the wall. The idea that “many just don’t want to” never computes with the elites.
As someone said up-thread, both government and big business are in thrall to the Marxist theory that everyone is an interchangeable widget, and any difference in outcomes is due to racism/sexism/shelf-ism, etc.
As someone said up-thread, both government and big business are in thrall to the Marxist theory that everyone is an interchangeable widget, and any difference in outcomes is due to racism/sexism/shelf-ism, etc.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 01, 2025 04:36 PM (noPDf)
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Yeah.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
Have you noticed that she now looks like a spawned-out humpy? That frown... very salmon-like. And nobody eats humpies anyway. Mushy pink garbage.
When she's dead. Of old age.
At 134.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)
Have you noticed that she now looks like a spawned-out humpy? That frown... very salmon-like. And nobody eats humpies anyway. Mushy pink garbage.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (a4NoL)
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Daylight Savings Time is also ghey.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (Vnr18)
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Someone has to be the higher end of the range that creates that median.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Yeah, but I don't think she's evil enough to hit the top of the range. Just run-of-the-mill "Senate Evil" gets you the median.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)
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Yeah, but I don't think she's evil enough to hit the top of the range. Just run-of-the-mill "Senate Evil" gets you the median.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (WkNQM)
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239 Universities and colleges simply need to redefine themselves into working for their students rather than for themselves. ...
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (jHien)
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What's funny is that if you were to ask them, most will say it's exactly this that's bankrupting them.
See the stuff from Whig above on things like the swanky facilities. All there to draw in the customer, and crushing them in debt.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Funny thing. Roughly ten years ago or so, all the college presidents got together with consultants informing them of declining male enrollment and interest in college. Turns out, these consultants pushed colleges that did not already have one, to get football teams (and damn the deficits and additional student fees added) in order to draw male students. Turns out surveys of average male students did not view a university as desirable if it did not have a football team. Females viewed a college as undesirable if the male enrollment was less than 45-40 percent as well. So our university and some others I know squandered money in football as a loss leader for male students.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:21 PM (jHien)
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What's funny is that if you were to ask them, most will say it's exactly this that's bankrupting them.
See the stuff from Whig above on things like the swanky facilities. All there to draw in the customer, and crushing them in debt.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Funny thing. Roughly ten years ago or so, all the college presidents got together with consultants informing them of declining male enrollment and interest in college. Turns out, these consultants pushed colleges that did not already have one, to get football teams (and damn the deficits and additional student fees added) in order to draw male students. Turns out surveys of average male students did not view a university as desirable if it did not have a football team. Females viewed a college as undesirable if the male enrollment was less than 45-40 percent as well. So our university and some others I know squandered money in football as a loss leader for male students.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (ctrM5)
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Yeah I always think of that when some 60 year old guy or something has a kid. OK fine, you're still packing ammunition but are you gonna be the one that wakes up in the middle of the night to feed the baby? Are you gonna be the one that changes his diaper when you want to take a nap?
The 60 year old guy married to a much younger woman has enough money to get "help". Its why she's with him to begin with.
The 60 year old guy married to a much younger woman has enough money to get "help". Its why she's with him to begin with.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (dg+HA)
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It is a whole different thing to give up sleep and ease when you are 40 than it is when you are 20. Not good for mom, not at all good for the kid.
If you doubt that, consider a 20 year old's response to drinking and partying all night compared to a 40 year old's.
If you doubt that, consider a 20 year old's response to drinking and partying all night compared to a 40 year old's.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2025 04:38 PM (s8j++)
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Average Jane is comparing herself to her "boyfriend" Chad McRichyrich III. Said boyfriend is wealthy, charismatic and good looking
Sure, but its not surprising. Young women are almost without exception lovely to look at, and they get to say when the naughty events happen. So their options are many and they don't know any better. Guys their age are idiots as well, you notice they never have some 19 year old guest talking to the ladies on there, its always guys in their 30s and older. Sometimes much older.
Sure, but its not surprising. Young women are almost without exception lovely to look at, and they get to say when the naughty events happen. So their options are many and they don't know any better. Guys their age are idiots as well, you notice they never have some 19 year old guest talking to the ladies on there, its always guys in their 30s and older. Sometimes much older.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:38 PM (2VST1)
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The 60 year old guy married to a much younger woman has enough money to get "help". Its why she's with him to begin with.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (t0Rmr)
And, we have a winner.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (t0Rmr)
And, we have a winner.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:38 PM (14URa)
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Funny thing. Roughly ten years ago or so, all the college presidents got together with consultants informing them of declining male enrollment and interest in college. Turns out, these consultants pushed colleges that did not already have one, to get football teams (and damn the deficits and additional student fees added) in order to draw male students. Turns out surveys of average male students did not view a university as desirable if it did not have a football team. Females viewed a college as undesirable if the male enrollment was less than 45-40 percent as well. So our university and some others I know squandered money in football as a loss leader for male students.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (ctrM5)
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I assume by "squandered" you mean that it didn't work?
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (ctrM5)
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I assume by "squandered" you mean that it didn't work?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:38 PM (WkNQM)
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329 Yeah, but I don't think she's evil enough to hit the top of the range. Just run-of-the-mill "Senate Evil" gets you the median.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (WkNQM)
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Her secret sauce is spite.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:37 PM (WkNQM)
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Her secret sauce is spite.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, smashy-smashy with Godzilla at May 01, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)
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Ace is on vacation this week.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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I can see him right now. Cucumbers on his eyes. Mud mask. Lounging on a chair drinking a Corona. Pedicure at 2:00. Massage at 3:00.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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I can see him right now. Cucumbers on his eyes. Mud mask. Lounging on a chair drinking a Corona. Pedicure at 2:00. Massage at 3:00.
Posted by: wth at May 01, 2025 04:38 PM (v0R5T)
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319 I bet the 60 y-olds you are having kids do not expect to be the one taking care of it.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)
I doubt Gutfeld is changing diapers.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)
I doubt Gutfeld is changing diapers.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (a4NoL)
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Lets put it this way: when you're lying in bed dying, your coworkers are not gonna surround you and send you off with love and memories. You might get a card.
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Odds of getting a card are long.
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Odds of getting a card are long.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (pZ64F)
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No matter if this space _____ is a 1/2 inch, or 12 millimeters, it doesn't matter. The metric system doesn't make that space any "easier" to express or negotiate.
No matter if this space _____ is a 1/2 inch, or 12 millimeters, it doesn't matter. The metric system doesn't make that space any "easier" to express or negotiate.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (qKvR9)
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330 Funny thing. Roughly ten years ago or so, all the college presidents got together with consultants informing them of declining male enrollment and interest in college. ... So our university and some others I know squandered money in football as a loss leader for male students.
should've bought a monorail
should've bought a monorail
Posted by: leonard nimoy at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (sGtp+)
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As someone said up-thread, both government and big business are in thrall to the Marxist theory that everyone is an interchangeable widget, and any difference in outcomes is due to racism/sexism/shelf-ism, etc.
Posted by: Ian S.
They don't have to be Marxist to think that. Simply put, the industrialized age viewed people as disposable (except for the elites). The ostensible reasons changed from the oligarchs and their servants in gubmint, but the motivation behind elites was always yearning for feudalism and serfs.
Posted by: Ian S.
They don't have to be Marxist to think that. Simply put, the industrialized age viewed people as disposable (except for the elites). The ostensible reasons changed from the oligarchs and their servants in gubmint, but the motivation behind elites was always yearning for feudalism and serfs.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (ctrM5)
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75 year old Richard Gere has a 4 year old and a 5 year old with his current wife.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (VNX3d)
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Hey, old dudes are sex machines.
Posted by: Bill B. at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (14URa)
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I doubt Gutfeld is changing diapers.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (a4NoL)
I doubt his wife is changing diapers either.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (a4NoL)
I doubt his wife is changing diapers either.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (g47mK)
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I can see him right now. Cucumbers on his eyes. Mud mask. Lounging on a chair drinking a Corona. Pedicure at 2:00. Massage at 3:00.
You misspelled "groaning on the floor with a bunch of collapsed shelves on top of him."
You misspelled "groaning on the floor with a bunch of collapsed shelves on top of him."
Posted by: Ian S. at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (noPDf)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (qKvR9)
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I doubt Gutfeld is changing diapers.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (a4NoL)
I feel like he probably is. I could be wrong, it's happened.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (a4NoL)
I feel like he probably is. I could be wrong, it's happened.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (14URa)
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Roast is climbing quickly. Now almost time to uncover it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (WkNQM)
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As someone said up-thread, both government and big business are in thrall to the Marxist theory that everyone is an interchangeable widget, and any difference in outcomes is due to racism/sexism/shelf-ism, etc.
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Yep.
Women were industrialized. Nothing more, nothing less. They had the most powerful, influential, crucial roles in the world, and they chose drudgery and wage-slavery because Mary Tyler Moore threw a hat into the air. Or something.
Oh yeah, and the CIA op.
Y'all did know Gloria Steinem was a confirmed CIA operative, right?
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Yep.
Women were industrialized. Nothing more, nothing less. They had the most powerful, influential, crucial roles in the world, and they chose drudgery and wage-slavery because Mary Tyler Moore threw a hat into the air. Or something.
Oh yeah, and the CIA op.
Y'all did know Gloria Steinem was a confirmed CIA operative, right?
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (/wLGm)
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So their options are many and they don't know any better. Guys their age are idiots as well
My concern in all this isn't that young people are ignorant, it is basically a tautology, but the media/schools/culture lie to them constantly about the differences between men and women.
There was another segment I saw where a male guest mentioned that women's fertility starts to decline in the late 20s and none of the female guests would believe him. Why not? Because some 40 year old female celebrity just had a kid.
Yes, all this information is there on the internet...but where these young women are getting their information from is intentionally misleading them
My concern in all this isn't that young people are ignorant, it is basically a tautology, but the media/schools/culture lie to them constantly about the differences between men and women.
There was another segment I saw where a male guest mentioned that women's fertility starts to decline in the late 20s and none of the female guests would believe him. Why not? Because some 40 year old female celebrity just had a kid.
Yes, all this information is there on the internet...but where these young women are getting their information from is intentionally misleading them
Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (t0Rmr)
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Oh, how is that girl Kat Timpf doing ?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (g47mK)
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When it's my time to go my plan is to linger and be a burden on my sister who I do not particularly like.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (Axc90)
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Great post Joe, thanks for breaking down their article so well and pointing to why they wrote it
Posted by: Draki at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (XhQKZ)
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This is going to shock you but WNBA player and possible man Britney Griner is in trouble for gambling on her own games LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (2VST1)
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When it's my time to go my plan is to linger and be a burden on my sister who I do not particularly like.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (Axc90)
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Now THAT Is spite!
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (Axc90)
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Now THAT Is spite!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (WkNQM)
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344 75 year old Richard Gere has a 4 year old and a 5 year old with his current wife.
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Do they look like gerbils?
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Do they look like gerbils?
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (pZ64F)
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Any of you watch the video I posted above?
What The Fuck is that bitch talking about??
She makes no sense.
Any of you watch the video I posted above?
What The Fuck is that bitch talking about??
She makes no sense.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (qKvR9)
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Females viewed a college as undesirable if the male enrollment was less than 45-40 percent as well.
A number of liberal arts colleges quietly engage in affirmative action for males, because the general belief is that if the percentage of females goes over 60%, women also stop wanting to attend.
A number of liberal arts colleges quietly engage in affirmative action for males, because the general belief is that if the percentage of females goes over 60%, women also stop wanting to attend.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (xTIDn)
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No matter if this space _____ is a 1/2 inch, or 12 millimeters, it doesn't matter. The metric system doesn't make that space any "easier" to express or negotiate.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (qKvR9)
When the government demanded that all units on drawings should be in metric and English units, they missed the point by a mile. What is a 2x4 in metric? And having done work on projects in Korea, a 3'-0" x 7'-0" door is not 3' x 7', it is a different size entirely, expressed in millimeters. Standards in metric countries are entirely different than standards in English countries.
So, drawings for US projects had nonsense millimeter units on them for no good purpose whatsoever. Your government dollars at work.
No matter if this space _____ is a 1/2 inch, or 12 millimeters, it doesn't matter. The metric system doesn't make that space any "easier" to express or negotiate.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:39 PM (qKvR9)
When the government demanded that all units on drawings should be in metric and English units, they missed the point by a mile. What is a 2x4 in metric? And having done work on projects in Korea, a 3'-0" x 7'-0" door is not 3' x 7', it is a different size entirely, expressed in millimeters. Standards in metric countries are entirely different than standards in English countries.
So, drawings for US projects had nonsense millimeter units on them for no good purpose whatsoever. Your government dollars at work.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:43 PM (a4NoL)
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75 year old Richard Gere has a 4 year old and a 5 year old with his current wife.
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Do they look like gerbils?
Can't get pregnant from using the back hole
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Do they look like gerbils?
Can't get pregnant from using the back hole
Posted by: Your kid's sex ed book page 32 at May 01, 2025 04:43 PM (t0Rmr)
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There was another segment I saw where a male guest mentioned that women's fertility starts to decline in the late 20s and none of the female guests would believe him. Why not? Because some 40 year old female celebrity just had a kid.
Well nobody is taught reason in school except some home schooled kids. So they cannot comprehend things like exceptions and statistics and science.
Well nobody is taught reason in school except some home schooled kids. So they cannot comprehend things like exceptions and statistics and science.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:43 PM (2VST1)
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should've bought a monorail
Posted by: leonard nimoy
I drolly proposed in a faculty meeting of building a stadium over a major roadway so that entrance, parking, and exits would be very convenient to fans after we lost another game.
Starting programs in programs at the major level lose quite often for years until it gets established.
I am not a collegiate or pro even sportsball fan despite playing football for years K-12.
Posted by: leonard nimoy
I drolly proposed in a faculty meeting of building a stadium over a major roadway so that entrance, parking, and exits would be very convenient to fans after we lost another game.
Starting programs in programs at the major level lose quite often for years until it gets established.
I am not a collegiate or pro even sportsball fan despite playing football for years K-12.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:43 PM (ctrM5)
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This is going to shock you but WNBA player and possible man Britney Griner is in trouble for gambling on her own games LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (2VST1)
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Did she bet on herself?
An athlete betting on his own contests is unseemly but I don't see how it's corrupt unless he's betting against himself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (2VST1)
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Did she bet on herself?
An athlete betting on his own contests is unseemly but I don't see how it's corrupt unless he's betting against himself.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (WkNQM)
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354 Oh, how is that girl Kat Timpf doing ?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (g47mK)
I absolutely adore her! She has a X account and seems to be doing well - not that she'd admit otherwise, bless her snarky heart.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (g47mK)
I absolutely adore her! She has a X account and seems to be doing well - not that she'd admit otherwise, bless her snarky heart.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (14URa)
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Sure, but its not surprising. Young women are almost without exception lovely to look at
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It's a shame we have to re-learn everything each generation in Modern America, but we would do well to once again teach our daughters that men have to earn their fortunes, but women are born with theirs.
The currency needs to be spent wisely.
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It's a shame we have to re-learn everything each generation in Modern America, but we would do well to once again teach our daughters that men have to earn their fortunes, but women are born with theirs.
The currency needs to be spent wisely.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Ladies, you weren't liberated, you were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (/wLGm)
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When it's my time to go my plan is to linger and be a burden on my sister who I do not particularly like.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (Axc90)
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Now THAT Is spite!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (WkNQM)
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If there were justice in this world I could time it so that I die on their front porch while they're away for a weekend.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (Axc90)
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Now THAT Is spite!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:42 PM (WkNQM)
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If there were justice in this world I could time it so that I die on their front porch while they're away for a weekend.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (Axc90)
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The older celebrities usually have a surrogate to have their kid.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (VofaG)
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332 307 I think doctors kill themselves because no one...
can read their handwriting.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty
Did you check to see if he wrote the reason why in the handwritten suicide note?
can read their handwriting.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty
Did you check to see if he wrote the reason why in the handwritten suicide note?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (Dv3i1)
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20 years ago colleges were pushing out males, any charge usually sex could get a male in hot water true or not
Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (ypFCm)
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There was another segment I saw where a male guest mentioned that women's fertility starts to decline in the late 20s and none of the female guests would believe him. Why not? Because some 40 year old female celebrity just had a kid.
The basic facts of female biology subvert The Official Narrative, Comrade.
The basic facts of female biology subvert The Official Narrative, Comrade.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (xTIDn)
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346 Hey, old dudes are sex machines.
Posted by: Bill B. at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (14URa)
I'm put in mind of the old tee shirt that explained that bald heads are solar panels for sex machines.
I didn't buy it then, either.
Posted by: Bill B. at May 01, 2025 04:40 PM (14URa)
I'm put in mind of the old tee shirt that explained that bald heads are solar panels for sex machines.
I didn't buy it then, either.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: anachronda at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (sGtp+)
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2 or 3 different Metric spanners will work on the same bolt.
Posted by: Boss Moss at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (Vnr18)
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Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 01, 2025 04:32 PM (dg+HA)
I'm in the one who came up with that term and she really doesn't qualify as her boobs aren't hanging out of her dress.
I'm in the one who came up with that term and she really doesn't qualify as her boobs aren't hanging out of her dress.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:45 PM (42Vb+)
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I am not a collegiate or pro even sportsball fan despite playing football for years K-12.
Posted by: whig
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Y'all had a kindergarten football team?
Posted by: whig
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Y'all had a kindergarten football team?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (qke8h)
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If there were justice in this world I could time it so that I die on their front porch while they're away for a weekend.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (Axc90)
I just totally fuckin' lost it, reading that. So not worthy . . .
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (Axc90)
I just totally fuckin' lost it, reading that. So not worthy . . .
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (14URa)
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If there were justice in this world I could time it so that I die on their front porch while they're away for a weekend.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (Axc90)
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In the middle of summer, no less, when the heat and humidity would make things particularly memorable.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:44 PM (Axc90)
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In the middle of summer, no less, when the heat and humidity would make things particularly memorable.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (tT6L1)
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Waltz as UN Ambassador? Interesting
Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (VE6XX)
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Roast is climbing quickly. Now almost time to uncover it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (WkNQM)
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Great! What time do you want us there?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:41 PM (WkNQM)
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Great! What time do you want us there?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (2UnvF)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (qKvR9)
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A number of liberal arts colleges quietly engage in affirmative action for males, because the general belief is that if the percentage of females goes over 60%, women also stop wanting to attend.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Explicitly in one state for state colleges and universities, that was ended by an 11th Circuit Court of Appeals decision. It was before Gratz and Grutter.
The whole stinking court created victimhood index based on disparate impact and codified as suspect, semi suspect, and not protected classes needs to be junked as evil and vile. It is unAmerican and creates a caste system which is as bad as the Plessy v. Ferguson decision created.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Explicitly in one state for state colleges and universities, that was ended by an 11th Circuit Court of Appeals decision. It was before Gratz and Grutter.
The whole stinking court created victimhood index based on disparate impact and codified as suspect, semi suspect, and not protected classes needs to be junked as evil and vile. It is unAmerican and creates a caste system which is as bad as the Plessy v. Ferguson decision created.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:47 PM (ctrM5)
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Great! What time do you want us there?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (2UnvF)
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Whenever. I'm easy.
Great! What time do you want us there?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (2UnvF)
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Whenever. I'm easy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:48 PM (WkNQM)
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Y'all had a kindergarten football team?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Flag football in 1st and 2nd, Tackle from 3rd though high school.
We did not yet have public kindergartens in my state when I went to a private one.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Flag football in 1st and 2nd, Tackle from 3rd though high school.
We did not yet have public kindergartens in my state when I went to a private one.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:49 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:49 PM (Axc90)
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Y'all had a kindergarten football team?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (qke8h)
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I think, in some areas of the country, football helmets are considered appropriate baby shower gifts.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 01, 2025 04:46 PM (qke8h)
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I think, in some areas of the country, football helmets are considered appropriate baby shower gifts.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:49 PM (tT6L1)
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If there were justice in this world I could time it so that I die on their front porch while they're away for a weekend.
Posted by: Weasel
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Family Vacation! movie shows that might not be a good idea. They simply put ole Aunt Edna on top of the station wagon and hauled her around to dump on another cousin.
Posted by: Weasel
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Family Vacation! movie shows that might not be a good idea. They simply put ole Aunt Edna on top of the station wagon and hauled her around to dump on another cousin.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:50 PM (ctrM5)
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Kindergartens was not for dirt farmers.
Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2025 04:51 PM (hGxWW)
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think, in some areas of the country, football helmets are considered appropriate baby shower gifts.
Posted by: blake -
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(waves from Tuscaloosa)
Posted by: blake -
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(waves from Tuscaloosa)
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - Ladies, you weren't liberated. You were industrialized. Now you're widgets, too. at May 01, 2025 04:51 PM (aj2DA)
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What difference does it make if I buy 10 gallons of gas or 38 gay "liters" of gas, or 15 doozydaps of gas if it's all the same amount?
A rose is a rose...
What difference does it make if I buy 10 gallons of gas or 38 gay "liters" of gas, or 15 doozydaps of gas if it's all the same amount?
A rose is a rose...
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:51 PM (qKvR9)
Posted by: Aerosmith at May 01, 2025 04:52 PM (XWtWQ)
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Kindergarten football would be like that old electric game that vibrated and the players went everywhere.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 01, 2025 04:52 PM (qke8h)
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Anyone remember "Jeff B?"
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Vaguely, wasn't he a cob or something at AOS at one time or another?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Vaguely, wasn't he a cob or something at AOS at one time or another?
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:52 PM (ctrM5)
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>>>Almost half of women age 25-34 have earned a bachelor's degree
I wouldn't think it's that high.
I wouldn't think it's that high.
Posted by: m at May 01, 2025 04:52 PM (CQE5S)
397
I like metric in a lot of ways, and it makes sense in a lot of ways, but they lack good baseline measurements A foot is a perfect sized mid measurement, a meter is too long and a millimeter or centimeter is too short.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (2VST1)
398
Since women "joined the workforce" in the 40's, the only change in what jobs they took has been a decline in farm laborers.
Women are still doing the same jobs today--after decades in the workforce, trillions lavished on them in enticements to college and other careers--as they were 100 years ago.
Secretaries, social workers, assistants, education, nursing; those are the same jobs now and 100 years ago most women were doing.
Women are still doing the same jobs today--after decades in the workforce, trillions lavished on them in enticements to college and other careers--as they were 100 years ago.
Secretaries, social workers, assistants, education, nursing; those are the same jobs now and 100 years ago most women were doing.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (NwfFc)
399
394 Kindergarten football would be like that old electric game that vibrated and the players went everywhere.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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All my football years are on Super 8 movies and yeah, the first couple of years were like that.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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All my football years are on Super 8 movies and yeah, the first couple of years were like that.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (ctrM5)
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394 Kindergarten football would be like that old electric game that vibrated and the players went everywhere.
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It seemed like magic until you played two or three times. Then it sucked forever.
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It seemed like magic until you played two or three times. Then it sucked forever.
Posted by: Pudinhead at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (pZ64F)
401
Holy cow, I just finished my 15th meeting of the day, I think I need a pitcher of Gimlets, STAT!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
402
Hi Peaches!
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:49 PM (Axc90)
Hey, you! I was freaking out about the absence of the head ewok, so I dove in. But really saddened to see that Jewells has left us, cripes, I hate that shit.
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:49 PM (Axc90)
Hey, you! I was freaking out about the absence of the head ewok, so I dove in. But really saddened to see that Jewells has left us, cripes, I hate that shit.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (14URa)
403
Holy cow, I just finished my 15th meeting of the day, I think I need a pitcher of Gimlets, STAT!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
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Your hangover's gonna be a nightmare!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
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Your hangover's gonna be a nightmare!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (WkNQM)
404
I've got a book on my shelf, have yet to completely peruse, the metric system was born of a mistake and carried forward on a lie and a coverup.
Supposedly, when there was an error in calculation, which was known by the people charged with setting up the metric system, but, it was covered up.
Supposedly, when there was an error in calculation, which was known by the people charged with setting up the metric system, but, it was covered up.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (tT6L1)
405
Vaguely, wasn't he a cob or something at AOS at one time or another?
Posted by: whig
JeffB was a liberal-ish commenter here a long time ago, and he'd get roasted every day for his stupid takes.
Vaguely, wasn't he a cob or something at AOS at one time or another?
Posted by: whig
JeffB was a liberal-ish commenter here a long time ago, and he'd get roasted every day for his stupid takes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (qKvR9)
406
The metric system can be very helpful.
Posted by: Drug dealers everywhere at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (dg+HA)
407
Well nobody is taught reason in school except some home schooled kids. So they cannot comprehend things like exceptions and statistics and science.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I taught both reason and logic in our law course and in a senior capstone research class. My school's degree program used to require it until Philosophy decided they no longer wanted to teach it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I taught both reason and logic in our law course and in a senior capstone research class. My school's degree program used to require it until Philosophy decided they no longer wanted to teach it.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:55 PM (ctrM5)
408
But really saddened to see that Jewells has left us, cripes, I hate that shit.
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (14URa)
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Yeah, me too. But nice to see you!
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (14URa)
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Yeah, me too. But nice to see you!
Posted by: Weasel at May 01, 2025 04:55 PM (Axc90)
409
Holy cow, I just finished my 15th meeting of the day, I think I need a pitcher of Gimlets, STAT!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
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Can't you outsource that to AI yet?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
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Can't you outsource that to AI yet?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:55 PM (7fElN)
410
I just finished my 15th meeting of the day, I think I need a pitcher of Gimlets, STAT!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
So . . . not AA meetings, then?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (XV/Pl)
So . . . not AA meetings, then?
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (14URa)
411
Guys want a boobette?
Here's one. Scroll down. She's also a robbery suspect, and the clever headline in the "NYPost" says , "Hey this is some kinda bust"
https://tinyurl.com/bdycdht
Don't say I never gave you anything.
Here's one. Scroll down. She's also a robbery suspect, and the clever headline in the "NYPost" says , "Hey this is some kinda bust"
https://tinyurl.com/bdycdht
Don't say I never gave you anything.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (42Vb+)
412
OK, read the content. Left out of the entire discussion is that universities are nothing but indoctrination centers anyway, so the declining male erollment rate in colleges is a GOOD thing frankly.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (pMi6S)
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True as was seen in the recent election, young men are not voting left as much as young college educated women.
Posted by: zombie at May 01, 2025 03:40 PM (pMi6S)
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True as was seen in the recent election, young men are not voting left as much as young college educated women.
Posted by: Decaf at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (unUNN)
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The US has been on the metric system since the 1890s when the US Congress define the inch (1 in = 2.54 cm, exactly) and every other unit of measure in terms of the metric system. The fact that that we still use British units (the British don’t anymore) is custom and allowable by law, but only because the units are given in SI, i.e. metric units.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (jHien)
414
JeffB's girl was also a dirty whore.
Posted by: garrett at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (Ruu2t)
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Metric is often easier for scientific measurements. It makes a lot of sense and is highly convertible.
Standard measures are better for things involving people. More sensibly-sized units and the boundaries tend to make sense in people terms.
Our temperature scale is approximately the range of survivability from 0-100. 0 in metric is tepid and 100 is "you've dead for a long time" and the degree is huge.
Standard measures are better for things involving people. More sensibly-sized units and the boundaries tend to make sense in people terms.
Our temperature scale is approximately the range of survivability from 0-100. 0 in metric is tepid and 100 is "you've dead for a long time" and the degree is huge.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (WkNQM)
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I taught both reason and logic in our law course and in a senior capstone research class. My school's degree program used to require it until Philosophy decided they no longer wanted to teach it.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:55 PM (ctrM5)
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Hey, who needs reason and logic? Feelings are a more than adequate substitute for rigor and thought, right?
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:55 PM (ctrM5)
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Hey, who needs reason and logic? Feelings are a more than adequate substitute for rigor and thought, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (tT6L1)
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406 The metric system can be very helpful.
Posted by: Drug dealers everywhere at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (dg+HA)
It’s why you can’t order a quarter pounder with cheese in a McDonald’s in Paris.
Posted by: Drug dealers everywhere at May 01, 2025 04:54 PM (dg+HA)
It’s why you can’t order a quarter pounder with cheese in a McDonald’s in Paris.
Posted by: Vincent Vega at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (eNdzY)
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JeffB was a liberal-ish commenter here a long time ago, and he'd get roasted every day for his stupid takes.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I tend to only remember the good ones like Maet, Dave in Tx, and so on. I generally don't try to talk bad about AOS cobs as it is a pita to run a forum and even more so with a forum using the latest technology from 2000 or so.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I tend to only remember the good ones like Maet, Dave in Tx, and so on. I generally don't try to talk bad about AOS cobs as it is a pita to run a forum and even more so with a forum using the latest technology from 2000 or so.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (ctrM5)
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The US has been on the metric system since the 1890s when the US Congress define the inch (1 in = 2.54 cm, exactly) and every other unit of measure in terms of the metric system. The fact that that we still use British units (the British don’t anymore) is custom and allowable by law, but only because the units are given in SI, i.e. metric units.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (jHien)
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They can pry my furlongs per fortnight from my cold dead hands!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 04:56 PM (jHien)
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They can pry my furlongs per fortnight from my cold dead hands!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (7fElN)
420
Anybody know who established and where was the first state financed higher education institution for women? Trick question! NO CHEATING!
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (g47mK)
421
The roast turned out okay. Next one needs a little bit less time, but only a little. I can dial it in.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (WkNQM)
422
Afternoon, folken,
I just got off two phone calls to the Chase card people. The first guy (prob. in Bombay, no doubt; he sounded like Apu's cousin) tried to tell me that my minimum payment was always to be $40, even though my balance this month was ~$28. I quickly realized if that's true, I would have three options: charge $0 in a period, charge exactly $40, or always charge more than $40. This did not sound right. I called back, and this woman assured me my balance of ~$28 was the payment to make, and there would be no extra charges next month.
We'll see if she knew what *she* was talking about.
I just got off two phone calls to the Chase card people. The first guy (prob. in Bombay, no doubt; he sounded like Apu's cousin) tried to tell me that my minimum payment was always to be $40, even though my balance this month was ~$28. I quickly realized if that's true, I would have three options: charge $0 in a period, charge exactly $40, or always charge more than $40. This did not sound right. I called back, and this woman assured me my balance of ~$28 was the payment to make, and there would be no extra charges next month.
We'll see if she knew what *she* was talking about.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at May 01, 2025 04:58 PM (omVj0)
423
*Holy cow, I just finished my 15th meeting of the day.*
There's a new cover sheet for the TPS reports.
There's a new cover sheet for the TPS reports.
Posted by: Bill Lumbergh at May 01, 2025 04:58 PM (dg+HA)
424
>>>Instead, get those young men to do their duty and go to college by making them (or, more likely, their parents) think they'll be underemployed, poor, lonely and suicidal if they don't.
It's sick.
It's sick.
Posted by: m at May 01, 2025 04:58 PM (CQE5S)
425
Ok, I'll give you a hint, it is older than the US!
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (g47mK)
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421 The roast turned out okay. Next one needs a little bit less time, but only a little. I can dial it in.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (WkNQM)
I bet it smells amazing!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (WkNQM)
I bet it smells amazing!
Posted by: Peaches at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (14URa)
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Hey, who needs reason and logic? Feelings are a more than adequate substitute for rigor and thought, right?
Posted by: blake
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Some students had trouble with the concept of logical fallacies and its effect on research design for crafting their research papers in my class.
The legal students wanted to be advocates, the rest of them, IR, etc. wanted to base theirs on opinion rather than objective research.
Posted by: blake
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Some students had trouble with the concept of logical fallacies and its effect on research design for crafting their research papers in my class.
The legal students wanted to be advocates, the rest of them, IR, etc. wanted to base theirs on opinion rather than objective research.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (qKvR9)
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...Secretaries, social workers, assistants, education, nursing; those are the same jobs now and 100 years ago most women were doing.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (NwfFc)
And that's why nobody's baking any cookies anymore. We have a Global Cookie Dearth.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2025 04:53 PM (NwfFc)
And that's why nobody's baking any cookies anymore. We have a Global Cookie Dearth.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (C4BAC)
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My school's degree program used to require it until Philosophy decided they no longer wanted to teach it.
Remember the old movie and TV show Paper Chase? That is what everyone wants to believe law school is like, the teachers are brutal and strict, they required logic and truth, etc.
Remember the old movie and TV show Paper Chase? That is what everyone wants to believe law school is like, the teachers are brutal and strict, they required logic and truth, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 01, 2025 05:00 PM (2VST1)
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424 >>>Instead, get those young men to do their duty and go to college by making them (or, more likely, their parents) think they'll be underemployed, poor, lonely and suicidal if they don't.
It's sick.
Posted by: m
Reflects our media. Everything they push is sick, demented, and twisted with few exceptions.
It's sick.
Posted by: m
Reflects our media. Everything they push is sick, demented, and twisted with few exceptions.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 05:00 PM (ctrM5)
432
Anybody know who established and where was the first state financed higher education institution for women? Trick question! NO CHEATING!
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (g47mK)
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What is a "state?"
I suspect the Church had chartered institutions for female education a long damn time ago, and the Church then was *also* the state.
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (g47mK)
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What is a "state?"
I suspect the Church had chartered institutions for female education a long damn time ago, and the Church then was *also* the state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2025 05:01 PM (WkNQM)
433
I'm making spicy chicken and bean soup. So its not really soup weather. I don't care. I'm declaring war on my sinuses and allergies. Spicy chicken and bean soup is the correct weapon.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at May 01, 2025 05:01 PM (2J/Lj)
434
The legal students wanted to be advocates, the rest of them, IR, etc. wanted to base theirs on opinion rather than objective research.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Argument by assertion unsupported by underlying facts. Did you tell any of them the supply of politicians far exceeds demand?
The legal students wanted to be advocates, the rest of them, IR, etc. wanted to base theirs on opinion rather than objective research.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (ctrM5)
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Argument by assertion unsupported by underlying facts. Did you tell any of them the supply of politicians far exceeds demand?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2025 05:01 PM (tT6L1)
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420 Anybody know who established and where was the first state financed higher education institution for women? Trick question! NO CHEATING!
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (g47mK)
In the US or not?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:57 PM (g47mK)
In the US or not?
Posted by: m at May 01, 2025 05:01 PM (CQE5S)
436
425 Ok, I'll give you a hint, it is older than the US!
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (g47mK)
Catholic church? Nuns?
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2025 04:59 PM (g47mK)
Catholic church? Nuns?
Posted by: m at May 01, 2025 05:03 PM (CQE5S)
437
Remember the old movie and TV show Paper Chase? That is what everyone wants to believe law school is like, the teachers are brutal and strict, they required logic and truth, etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Personally, I thought Kingfield was a jerk as you can get across concepts without beating them over the head. You can do Socratic questioning without playing the infallible sage on the stage.
I only resorted to direct confrontation in open class if the student escalates the issue claiming what is wrong is actually right by their opinion. I certainly can be wrong or ignorant of some circumstance and do not mind a student asking questions or issuing statements to that effect. But, I was there to teach them and that is more like jazz than science. Each class and personality that you deal with are different and distinct and should be shown courtesy and respect unless they do something to destroy that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Personally, I thought Kingfield was a jerk as you can get across concepts without beating them over the head. You can do Socratic questioning without playing the infallible sage on the stage.
I only resorted to direct confrontation in open class if the student escalates the issue claiming what is wrong is actually right by their opinion. I certainly can be wrong or ignorant of some circumstance and do not mind a student asking questions or issuing statements to that effect. But, I was there to teach them and that is more like jazz than science. Each class and personality that you deal with are different and distinct and should be shown courtesy and respect unless they do something to destroy that.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 05:05 PM (ctrM5)
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I was going to say some midwestern frontier state that gave the franchise to women before the rest of the US. Now with your hint I’m thinking colonial… Wellesley? But I don’t think that has ever been state supported. Also not sure how old it is. Haven’t tried searching, just racking my brains.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 05:05 PM (jHien)
439
The Salem School of Witchcraft and Covens?
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at May 01, 2025 05:07 PM (C4BAC)
440
How old is St. Mary’s in San Antonio? If it is old enough, it might have been supported by Spain, since they had no separation of church and state.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 05:08 PM (jHien)
441
Argument by assertion unsupported by underlying facts. Did you tell any of them the supply of politicians far exceeds demand?
Posted by: blake
I lead them gently in class but saved such remarks for grading their papers. I required a LOT of writing including essay exams on our basic class. I hated multiple choice, fill in the blank, t/f etc. because I preferred for students to tell me coherently what they did know versus what they did not. The M/C, T/F, etc were simply time savers for profs in grading, not a good pedagogical device. Figured out late in my career how to use them better at times but still preferred written assignments.
Also screwed those frats and sororities that gathered test banks for their houses though that was not the intent. Past exams told them little about future ones. They had to come to class to pass.
Posted by: blake
I lead them gently in class but saved such remarks for grading their papers. I required a LOT of writing including essay exams on our basic class. I hated multiple choice, fill in the blank, t/f etc. because I preferred for students to tell me coherently what they did know versus what they did not. The M/C, T/F, etc were simply time savers for profs in grading, not a good pedagogical device. Figured out late in my career how to use them better at times but still preferred written assignments.
Also screwed those frats and sororities that gathered test banks for their houses though that was not the intent. Past exams told them little about future ones. They had to come to class to pass.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2025 05:09 PM (ctrM5)
442
Ack! Willowed again! Do tell us in the next thread.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at May 01, 2025 05:09 PM (jHien)
443
Yeah, true, John Wayne wasn't changing any diapers, he had Consuela for that.
I thought his wife's name was Pilar?
I thought his wife's name was Pilar?
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain at May 01, 2025 05:37 PM (XDJiH)
444
Why would men go someplace that they've clearly been told they're not welcome? They failed to mention that fact in their article. And most self respecting men wouldn't sit through classes being lectured at by Communist feminist professors, telling them how awful they are anyway.
Go pound sand ladies and learn to kill your own spiders.
Go pound sand ladies and learn to kill your own spiders.
Posted by: Tracy at May 01, 2025 05:48 PM (x58Cx)
445
Seven years of no college down the drain....
Posted by: Lex at May 01, 2025 05:59 PM (MYYw0)
446
The appropriate thing for older women to do is to teach younger women that there are no long-term benefits to years of (ahem) "experience" and single life.
The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
Posted by: rickb223
Good God. Pick a side and stick with it. Either tell both sexes to stay chaste and get or stay married if they want to do married-people things, or tell both sexes to avoid marriage and do whatever they want with their lives.
Telling one sex to be chaste and the other sex to avoid marriage has created the morass that out sexual culture is these days, switching which sex gets told what won't fix that.
The appropriate thing for older men to do is to teach younger men that there are no long-term benefits to marriage. Not as "no fault "divorce is set up now, with 80% of divorce initiated by women, where it's almost a guarantee you will lose half of everything you own.
Posted by: rickb223
Good God. Pick a side and stick with it. Either tell both sexes to stay chaste and get or stay married if they want to do married-people things, or tell both sexes to avoid marriage and do whatever they want with their lives.
Telling one sex to be chaste and the other sex to avoid marriage has created the morass that out sexual culture is these days, switching which sex gets told what won't fix that.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at May 01, 2025 06:35 PM (hB7mE)
447
So, what are these men doing when they're alone?
My money is on a lot of them playing video games, generally on line, and generally multi-player games.
So, are they really alone? Physically, yes, but my experience with playing a couple online multi-player games is that you're not really alone. You're interacting often, and people link up on social media with the contacts they make playing games.
My money is on a lot of them playing video games, generally on line, and generally multi-player games.
So, are they really alone? Physically, yes, but my experience with playing a couple online multi-player games is that you're not really alone. You're interacting often, and people link up on social media with the contacts they make playing games.
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Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat