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The Problem With FOIA
In a recent Morning Report, JJ had a link to an article about FOIA. In a surprise to nobody with a pulse, it turns out that the government is as recalcitrant as ever when it comes to FOIA requests. The linked article focuses on the delays in some agencies due to their gutting by DOGE, and the closure of some FOIA-focused offices in other agencies. The Trump administration is better in regard to transparency than others have been, but FOIA remains a poor process fraught with willful and coincidental delays.
FOIA is a bureaucratic process and one must expect delays with any bureaucratic process, but FOIA has long seemed particularly bad. Agencies despise FOIA and don't exactly bend over backwards to comply with it. FOIA violations are rarely punished and disclosures are always slow-waked whenever possible. This is part and parcel with FOIA and the Act has never worked the way its writers intended. This is at least part, I think, because FOIA was badly founded and hasn't kept pace with the times or technology.The problem with FOIA's basis is an assumption of secrecy. Agencies - all agencies - are allowed to keep secrets and everything is secret by default. If you make a FOIA request, it's right there in the name, at least colloquially: it's a request. A request is subject to denial. This should never have been permitted. It should have been a FOIA demand or a FOIA order. Demands can be rejected or orders disobeyed, but the expectation that it is a mere "request" should never have been the norm. But by this point in the state of common technology, however, even FOIA demands should be superfluous.
FOIA should have been repealed and replaced at least twenty years ago, and its assumption of secrecy thrown out with it. This country is, after all, a rePUBLIC. Governance should be performed in public, by default. There should be no default secrecy and no assumption that an agency is allowed to not disclose something. All government activities should be public and available to the public from the start, with no demand for information needed. No government document, E-Mail, contract, memo, etc. should be private in the first place. There should be no need to demand access. Access should be public. Access should be on the web, using the same organizational structure as the agency. If Agency X, Directorate Y, Group Z, Team 2 produced a document or a sent an E-Mail, it should just be immediately published unless it has to do with a contract currently in the bidding process (in which case it should be published - along with all other materials - the day the bid closes). The government has no trade secrets (it does not engage in trade). The government has no expectation of - or right to - privacy (they are public servants). Under normal circumstances, personally-identifiable information ("PII", which is both an industry and government standard) should be stripped and then the material published. Immediately. If information is formally classified, it can remain private. In that case, a stub entry should be created and published. The system should tell you that a document, memo, E-Mail, etc. exists and which part of which agency produced it, even if the document itself is not disclosed. This - inappropriate classification - should be the only place for a FOIA-type demand. "I know you made it, I know it exists, and I think it's BS that it's classified. I want a review." Other than that, or if you can argue public interest in the exposure of PII, the information should just be available from the start and as the norm. So "FOIA is under attack" per those paying attention, and I have no reason to assume that this is hyperbole. This is not, however, new in any way. FOIA has been "under attack" since the moment it was passed. FOIA has been the focus of obstruction and non-compliance as long as it has existed. No bureaucrat has ever wanted to comply with it in the first place, and no one sentenced to a FOIA office has ever gone out of his way to make the process smooth or effective. FOIA doesn't work, has never worked and never will work. Where you can drag information out of a FOIA office, it will be incomplete and redacted unless you bull-dog them for months and even then your odds are poor. So just get rid of it. FOIA is unfit for purpose. Repeal it and replace it with default-transparency laws, with demotions and terminations for non-compliance and jail time penalties for chronic non-compliance or inappropriately classifying materials. This is a public government, and we have the technology to enforce that. So do away with FOIA. Do away with default secrecy. Do away with "requests." Publish or perish.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at April 30, 2025 03:10 PM (Wx316)
Posted by: Canadian Gen Z at April 30, 2025 03:10 PM (sStKZ)
Posted by: SMOD at April 30, 2025 03:11 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 30, 2025 03:11 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at April 30, 2025 03:11 PM (AkyaN)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Speaking of documents that were supposed to be released, any update on those Epstein files we were promised many many months ago?
I don't know how that entire file is not subject to FOIA -- can't claim it's an active investigation. Epstein is dead, Ghislaine is in prison.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:12 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:13 PM (bW09W)
They'll hide documents on private servers. They'll mis-spell key words on documents (Obarna vs Obama). They'll redact mundane information that has no business being redacted. They'll flat out lie about having no responsive documents.
The problem is culture and politics.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 30, 2025 03:14 PM (lIio7)
Should have picked Paxton.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:14 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2025 03:14 PM (KtOUo)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (zyFko)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (jGJov)
Should have picked Paxton.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:14 PM (/U5Yz)
I would have picked Zombie Pinochet, personally.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (uCjyK)
Marty! You have to come with me! Something's happened to the blog!
Posted by: Doc Brown at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (QBMHV)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (aG/2t)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (Zz0t1)
>>Speaking of documents that were supposed to be released, any update on those Epstein files we were promised many many months ago?
The Epstein Files a re a Macguffen, what I want to know is which IC Apparatues were running him.
Was he just a US asset, was he working for other IC's, who was monitoring and controlling him, etc.
Fun Fact:
Bill Barr's dad, yes that Bill Barr, gave Epstein his first job.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (XV/Pl)
feh.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2025 03:16 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:16 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: jsg at April 30, 2025 03:16 PM (DF5Vx)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (aG/2t)
Are we still talking about FOIA?
I mean, I guess I can see your line of thought -- secrecy and everything being "classified" came out of the Cold War era. Or at least was turbocharged by that mindset.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:16 PM (uCjyK)
I would settle for the news report that the broad said they had in the can but were never allowed to release.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:17 PM (oXfCm)
Was he just a US asset, was he working for other IC's, who was monitoring and controlling him, etc.
Fun Fact:
Bill Barr's dad, yes that Bill Barr, gave Epstein his first job.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (XV/Pl)
Yes, agreed. I want his CIA / Mossad file, not the file the FBI has.
And yes, I'm aware of the Epstein-Barr Virus and the herpes we all got from that. (too far in my analogy?)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:18 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Buster Hymand at April 30, 2025 03:18 PM (Oal3t)
Yep, the time machine is acting up again.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 30, 2025 03:18 PM (w6EFb)
Look at the Epstein files. No, you can't.
There's a significant difference between information the government deems secret and what it deems the public would be better off not knowing.
It won't change anytime soon.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 30, 2025 03:18 PM (Q4IgG)
FOUA seems about as quaint as concern that the government wants to access your library history.
They know everything about us (along with google, meta, etc.) but we must beg for redacted records that take months, years.
Posted by: Canadian Gen Z at April 30, 2025 03:19 PM (KQ27X)
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A rather cromulent and apropos typo ...
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 03:19 PM (wclo2)
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What is the proposition for critical infrastructure? Make the plans, locations and vulnerabilities available to anyone who asks because muh freedom?
I get that government is stupid and useless and faggy and trading security for liberty etc etc but I'm not feeling you, this is short bus territory. Unless I missed your solution.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:19 PM (M/gGe)
Should have picked Paxton.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:14 PM (/U5Yz)
I would have picked Zombie Pinochet, personally.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:15 PM (uCjyK)
My original pick was John Eastman, but I am giving Bondi the benefit of the doubt. The DOJ is - by far - the worst agency in Gov't from a conservative perspective, and the engine room of the Deep State. It's going to take months to find out who the good apples are, then more time to get them to do the necessary work. Until then, it's like cleaning the Augean Stables.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2025 03:19 PM (QKabM)
Cold War is over. Yet the power structures remain.
Posted by: Fast Eddie Felson at April 30, 2025 03:20 PM (McYvC)
In other stupid government tricks, TX legislature just passed the anti-meme bill. A bunch of RINOs joined it.
I can't see how this won't be effective, and all memes everywhere will stop.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2025 03:20 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 30, 2025 03:20 PM (cvWHI)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:20 PM (VofaG)
It adds: "For many converts, becoming Muslim isn't always a celebration, as many friends and relatives need some time to accept the good news." It has also been revealed that NHS staff were urged to fast for Ramadan in order to "understand and experience how Muslims feel". The network, which received at least £2,655 in public money in 2022/23, is believed to have been hiring for staff since January 2025, and says its vision is "inspiring, celebrating and championing the contribution of the NHS Muslim community".
... this just screams Occidentalphobia
Posted by: SMOD at April 30, 2025 03:20 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:21 PM (/U5Yz)
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney is looking to make a trade deal and will visit the White House within the next week
Posted by: CNN Breaking News at April 30, 2025 03:21 PM (Oal3t)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:21 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Joe Mannix Johnson is RIGHT at April 30, 2025 03:21 PM (TbWk/)
The default should be "all information is publicly available unless classified"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:21 PM (2VST1)
Suppressed because he paid enough dough to 2 judges so the videos were destroyed to prevent the public from seeing what their tax money had paid to record.
Posted by: Me So Horny at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (979V4)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (VNX3d)
I tell ya' horde, I tell ya'. I get no respect, no respect at all. Even with my old man I got no respect. He told me never take candy from a stranger unless he offered me a ride
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (5hfjS)
God's lips, your ears, some assembly required.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (M/gGe)
... this just screams Occidentalphobia
Posted by: SMOD at April 30, 2025 03:20 PM (RHGPo)
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Do they also pass out copies of Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (7fElN)
Requesting the records triggered actio.
Posted by: Canadian Gen Z at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (KQ27X)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (bW09W)
St Paul's will have minarets within a generation.
Posted by: brak at April 30, 2025 03:23 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (5hfjS)
one of my favs:
"I told my dad I was tired of running in circles, so he nailed down the other foot."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)
I doubt it but hopefully Abbot will veto it. Or was he for it? I hadn't heard anything about it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:23 PM (VofaG)
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!! Except for you, Muslims. Mix all you want.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:24 PM (2VST1)
1) they would be redacted all to hell and over.
2) he's dead and can not be held liable or responsible for anything he did anymore.
3) any big names will be expunged or redacted and no one will face any consequences for whatever happened.
4) any actual kids that were abused are either dead or adults who might want to put that shit behind them and not wind up "famous" for it.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at April 30, 2025 03:24 PM (2J/Lj)
I doubt it but hopefully Abbot will veto it. Or was he for it? I hadn't heard anything about it.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:23 PM (VofaG)
Here's hoping he does skidmarks on the bill, and sends it back with the veto. The resulting memes would be hilarious.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 30, 2025 03:24 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:22 PM (bW09W)
Canada experiencing buyer's remorse yet?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Joe Mannix Johnson is RIGHT at April 30, 2025 03:21 PM (TbWk/)
The problem is, like anything, there is no accountability at any level of government.
In a previous life, I spent a lot of time filing the state-level version of FOIA requests in a state with, on paper, very transparency promoting laws.
If the clerk on the other end doesn't want to give you the info, you have to sue. They still might not turn over the info. You then need to get an order from a judge saying they have to turn it over. Then the state appeals. Then the state wants an ex parte in camera meeting with the judge to say god only knows what.
Eventually after years of time and lots of money wasted, you may get a heavily redacted document. Or they might say they destroyed the records in the course of business.
And nothing happens to anyone involved here. The Court says "well, shit. Guess you're out of luck, bud" and no one gets in any kind of trouble for ignoring the law.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (uCjyK)
NHS staff have been told that converting to Scientology would be the "best decision you'll ever make" in a guide made by the organisation's Scientology Network. Its handbook for "New Scientologists" also reassures readers who are concerned that family members and friends "initially [do] not have a positive reaction". It was written by and handed out to staff, according to GB News, and addresses the reader as "convert". The guide adds that it is composed "with the intention of pleasing the Supreme Being by providing support to converts to Scientology, their peers and colleagues".
Like this?
Posted by: naturalfake at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (KQ27X)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (Er3Q7)
1) they would be redacted all to hell and over.
2) he's dead and can not be held liable or responsible for anything he did anymore.
3) any big names will be expunged or redacted and no one will face any consequences for whatever happened.
4) any actual kids that were abused are either dead or adults who might want to put that shit behind them and not wind up "famous" for it.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at April 30, 2025 03:24 PM (2J/Lj)
I don't care about Epstein. I want to know, for sure, in black ink, which agenc(ies) were behind Epstein and were trafficking young American girls to have sex with the worldwide rich and powerful to then videotape those encounters and use it as blackmail against those people.
It should be the biggest story of the last 100 years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:26 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:26 PM (oXfCm)
Generally, our lawyers sided with caution when releasing information. Not everything can be told to everyone, and that is just a fact.
Outside of the military, however, I don't see a lot of things being held close to the vest once an award is made. Seems like EPA crap, regulatory crap, results of various studies and even most judicial stuff could be made public without too much damage.
Now, let's talk about Congress and the critters therein...
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (a4NoL)
I care a lot about that. JFK stuff no, its nothing to me. But Epstein yeah, that matters a lot to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (2VST1)
Shoot me now.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:26 PM (oXfCm)
Not mentioning all the functional powerplants residing in SOUTH Texas.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Francis at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (bbuBP)
Posted by: toby928 at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (ypFCm)
Shoot me now.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:26 PM (oXfCm)
You should be getting water right now......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Those memes the kids use on the internet are bad news I tell you. What with all the dark web and them bitcoins and the stealing your ID and stuff. First you see a cartoon frog, next thing you know someone sold your house to Blackrock. True story.
Posted by: Texas Legislators at April 30, 2025 03:28 PM (jGJov)
Shoot me now.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:26 PM
How about shots, instead? Hold your glass up to the USB port.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 30, 2025 03:28 PM (QBMHV)
I would guess that by now, the players and victims are dead, retired, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2025 03:28 PM (KQ27X)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:28 PM (oXfCm)
Publish or perish.
Posted by: Joe Mannix at 03:10 PM
Joe - I'm bookmarking this post. I was just thinking about this today, as I'm considering running for a town office spot. My default setting on public records is just that - public. I think that (just like you wrote) every meeting that an official has should be public and viewable. Just post the Outlook calendar on the gov't website, so that everyone knows who is meeting with whom.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (QKabM)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:25 PM (2VST1)
Do we have a "Siberia?"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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Good point, Mannix. The judges would have also accepted "command!"
Speaking of Judges:
BREAKING: Feral District Clown Judge And De Facto POTUS Bozoberg Rules As Unconstitutional -- And Henceforth Bans -- FOIA. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (0Tdve)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:27 PM (2VST1)
JFK is same as Epstein to me. I want it in writing that the CIA assassinated JFK. We all know that's what happened, but force them to admit it.
Would kind of force everyone to look at how DC has operated for the past 60+ years in a much different light, no?
LBJ, Nixon, and Ford certainly seemed to operate under the assumption that they couldn't cross the CIA or they'd also be whacked.
That's not healthy for a supposedly free country.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (uCjyK)
You'll have to deal with/pay for the "Curious Idiot" problem somehow.
Posted by: Gladys Kravitz at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April
Good. Now do congress.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (BVcPt)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)
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Default secrecy does and should apply to some government held information. Ongoing criminal investigations, communications with government attorneys, licensing test questions being developed. I'm sure there are many, many other areas involving non-classified information for which there is a blanket reason supporting non-disclosure.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 30, 2025 03:30 PM (UBKzV)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:30 PM (oXfCm)
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:30 PM (asFox)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:31 PM (M/gGe)
Absolutely not.
In my position at DTRA, I create dozens of versions of a document before it is finalized. Those dozens of versions contain - obviously - different [read: incorrect] information than does the final version. The conversations back and forth during editing/staffing/legal review should not be automatically and immediately made public.
I would like all final, executed Government documents to be immediately made public, but the idea that the process by which that document became finalized should be public is asinine.
In my past position, as a supervisory agent, it was not at all unusual for a Report of Investigation to be drafted as 'substantiated' during the investigative process, only to have our Agency learn new and compelling information from a late witness/document and reverse our position - and vice versa.
That substantiated draft report is now slanderous and actionable.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:32 PM (oSeBJ)
Supposedly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2025 03:32 PM (Jqczo)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2025 03:29 PM (QKabM)
In fact, I actually think it would benefit the public in other ways. Trump's WH, for instance, is fairly open - at least by the standards of the past. I'm actually pro- most leaks. That's because it's hard for a small group of people, no matter how smart, to look at all the unforeseen consequences of any decision. Having the public - and potentially your domestic adversaries - weigh in on it allows the best policy to come out, which can then get legislated on only if necessary. There is a lot of wisdom in crowds that should be exploited where possible.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2025 03:32 PM (QKabM)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:31 PM (M/gGe)
Woof......on it.
It's a long, rough road, for sure. Godspeed, Emm. Stay strong, keep your faith high and laugh whenever you can.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:33 PM (oXfCm)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2025 03:33 PM (BVcPt)
Supposedly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 30, 2025 03:32 PM (Jqczo)
Yes...because the government NEVER oversteps it's bounds when interpreting laws.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (KQ27X)
The only solution is to shrink the size and scope of government and increase penalties on bad actors. "Make better laws" does not fucking work.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (M/gGe)
I get no respect, none at all I tell ya' none at all. The way my luck's running, if I was a politician I would be honest
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (5hfjS)
It should be the biggest story of the last 100 years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:26 PM (uCjyK)
In most times and places that's a line item on the entertainment budget.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (asFox)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (/U5Yz)
Yeah, but -- and this seems to be missed by everyone who works for the government -- you work for us.
My boss has full access to see my many, many, drafts of my legal documents, for example. Yes, some of the information or caselaw may be wrong in early drafts, but if he wants to look it over, he can.
Because he's paying me to do the work.
So why is it unreasonable for your bosses who are paying your salary (us, the taxpayers), to have full access to your work product? If only to ensure you are actually doing the work?
I'm being a bit extreme in my example here in purpose, but there seems to be a huggggge disconnect in how government employees view themselves and how private sector employees view themselves.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:35 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2025 03:36 PM (oXfCm)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:36 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (/U5Yz)
My plan is to station Lizzo in the Pacific with some burritos to counteract any effects.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:36 PM (M/gGe)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (ypFCm)
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I read this as underwear volcano.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (/U5Yz)
We have volcanoes doing stuff up here all the time. 300 miles is a long way, but if it really does blow up, rather than just ooze magma, it could mean a nice little tidal wave....
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (pZ64F)
Which brings us right back to Epstein....
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (a4NoL)
I read this as underwear volcano.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (pZ64F)
Isn't that what Hawaiians call a period?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (ypFCm)
I think there are still a few names on the client list that are still in power, like John Roberts.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (VNX3d)
FOIA love
FOIA love
FOIA love I give you everything and more, and that's for sure
FOIA love I bring you diamond rings and things right to your door
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (v0R5T)
At one company I worked at, we made a request for a federal contract. The gov. sent us a document that was almost completely redacted -- which they're not supposed to do.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:39 PM (77rzZ)
I tell ya' when I fly, I don't get no respect. I took one of those cheap flights, no frills. I finished eatin' and had to do the dishes
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 30, 2025 03:39 PM (5hfjS)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:39 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:39 PM (77rzZ)
Didn't stop 'em, did it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Had a friend who at a town council had to tell a resident "No we will not be checking on the town trash collector" who was salvaging while picking up the trash.
Posted by: DaveA at April 30, 2025 03:40 PM (FhXTo)
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Does Astoria know this?
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 03:40 PM (pZ64F)
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Hear! Hear!
OUT: WikiLeaks.
IN: WikiPeeks.
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 03:40 PM (0Tdve)
Ha!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 03:40 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:40 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2025 03:34 PM (KQ27X)
There are laws for that already. This potentially stops parodies and and things like the Bee does.
Michael Berry I believe has a funny segment called Drunk Dade calls into the show. That would now likely be illegal. But this law wont pass SC review.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:40 PM (VofaG)
During today's cabinet meeting RFK Jr made, to me, a rather stunning but not unbelievable remark. He mentioned that the *biden administration's HHS was involved with the trafficking of children. I think everyone knows that there were likely some people in his administration that are capable of this, but someone in an official position came out and said it, live.
There's a lot of nibbling around the edges of this topic and the degree of government involvement. But it will be kept from the public, not because it's a secret but because it'll embarrass a lot of people. That they'll face criminal prosecution over it is almost laughable.
FOIA the Health and Human Services agency. Let's see what happens.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:35 PM (uCjyK)
I don't work for you.
At the end of 2023, I got fired by my Agency for refusing to target classes of Americans with investigations and for refusing to order my subordinate agents to do the same.
I'm a contractor, but you're missing my point - maybe deliberately.
When the government finds a military officer guilty of a crime/UCMJ violation, that officer's career is typically over.
You want the substantiated draft report in the public for everyone to read even though it's entirely possible that the agency in question will learn a new set of facts, clearing the officer's name.
That's slander, and not only do you want it to happen, you're upset with people who don't want it to happen.
Working documents should never be public. Final documents always should be.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:35 PM (uCjyK)
Well, for those of us who took our promise seriously, there are reasons for secrecy in government operation, and following those rules means the enemies are kept at bay. Not all requests for information come from actors whose motives are pure as the driven snow. How do you feel about plans for hardened bunkers, or maybe missile silos? If you request plans of nuclear reactors, etc., to whom are those plans given, and for what purpose? You seem to think that government employees are all awful, which is not true, and that letting every Tom, LeeHo and Achmed access to all government information will somehow fix the situation. It won't.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (a4NoL)
Most secrecy now falls under the rubric of "people would lose confidence in their government if they found out the truth" or "the people would never let us do this thing we must do if we didn't hide it"
But this is exactly the sort of information the voters need to make informed decisions.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
True, but if Abbot doesn't veto it, I guarantee TX cops will be more than excited to enforce it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:42 PM (bW09W)
Hell, the government doesn't trust the government.
Posted by: Case at April 30, 2025 03:42 PM (OrSPY)
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Does Astoria know this?
Posted by: Pudinhead
We don't deal with tidal waves very well.
Posted by: Crescent City at April 30, 2025 03:42 PM (/U5Yz)
Half of the civil rights lawyers at DOJ resigned rather than press charges against Jew-haters. That's quite telling.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2025 03:43 PM (aLjiL)
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (pZ64F)
Isn't that what Hawaiians call a period?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Cliff Clavin trivia
The Hawaiian Capitol building is shaped like a volcano.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:43 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2025 03:19 PM (QKabM)
I wasn't Expecting the Impossible from her, and there has only been a few times a mole upset her applecart for a few weeks. I like the sound of her legal briefs (or her chosen lawyers) just the right amount of tweaking these rogue judges in the filings while pointing out their errors. If only most of the appeals judges werent traitors too.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:44 PM (asFox)
Right, and that's the key here, they cleverly came up with a way to seem as if they were giving information but that codified secrecy by default. Instead of "everything is available except critical state secrets" its "everything is classified except what you specifically ask for, and we'll decide what you get to see."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:44 PM (2VST1)
Half of the civil rights lawyers at DOJ resigned rather than press charges against Jew-haters. That's quite telling.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 30, 2025 03:43 PM (aLjiL)
And those were the Jewish ones.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (asFox)
https://tinyurl.com/3vkmcdbf
This is going to face immediate and, in my opinion, warranted challenge on a First Amendment basis.
Posted by: Strict scrutiny at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: Boss Moss
He did all the time. It drove me nuts.
Posted by: Mary Todd at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (/U5Yz)
Even when I was a kid I got no respect. I told my mother that Im gonna' run away from home and she said, On you mark!
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (5hfjS)
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Literally no other reason to open the border like a sieve the way they did.
Democrats may tell you it's for cheap labor but remember they lie about EVERYTHING. Even when it sounds like they must be telling the truth.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (M/gGe)
And...they looked at the legends from the tribes in the area they expected to have been hit by it and sure enough they had legends about great waves coming and destroying their villages...
Honestly it looks like oral history has a lot more accuracy in it then people expected...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (2VST1)
-the Dulles brothers
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Strict scrutiny at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (TbWk/)
By who? Please don't say the Supreme Court.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (M/gGe)
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (77Bgk)
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Does Astoria know this?
more importantly, is lex luthor buying up property?
Posted by: anachronda at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (sGtp+)
https://tinyurl.com/3vkmcdbf
This is going to face immediate and, in my opinion, warranted challenge on a First Amendment basis.
Posted by: Strict scrutiny at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (TbWk/)
It's by Phelan. That explains a LOT.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 03:37 PM (pZ64F)
Isn't that what Hawaiians call a period?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Pretty sure that's a pseudonym for a Polynesian Wet Dream...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (a4NoL)
I don't mean this personally against you -- I like you -- but this kind of thinking is kind of what I'm talking about.
Yes, there are legitimate concerns about things like leaking battle plans during a war. We can all agree on that.
However, and here's the problem, it quickly becomes a slippery slope to "we can't let the people who are supposed to be running the country (the voters) know what's going on because then THE ENEMY will know" which ... we're not in a declared war here. Who is this enemy? Does the risk of a vague enemy seeing this information outweigh the massive problem of the informed electorate who elect people and tell the government what to do not being informed?
And that a small self selected group of "insiders" CAN see this information, but the rest of us can't?
It doesn't seem like a great situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:42 PM (bW09W)
For a time, until congress could ratify war powers to him in the South and border states.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (asFox)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (M/gGe)
There are already clear rulings issued by the SC that gives a big leeway to political satire and parodies.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Joe Mannix at 03:10 PM
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Great turn of phrase.
And NO TENURE!
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (0Tdve)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 30, 2025 03:48 PM (sagpo)
Add to the fact that they use this when we are not at war with anyone.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:48 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:48 PM (M/gGe)
Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
The Brits were also behind it. I'm reading a book about it now.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (77rzZ)
This is exactly why I think it was Britain.
Which explains why Clinton and the rest of the clients advanced British foreign interests as our own, and Prince Phillip, a non-entity for anyone outside of Britain got picked up by the operation as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (v0R5T)
And that a small self selected group of "insiders" CAN see this information, but the rest of us can't?
It doesn't seem like a great situation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (uCjyK)
Do you sincerely believe Osama didn't watch CNN?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (oSeBJ)
Oral history is much more reliable than modern people think of it. You always hear of the "telephone game" but the truth is, all it takes is at least one wise guy in the chain who thinks its absolutely hilarious to change the message to ruin the entire experiment.
But if your entire culture and heritage hinges on correctly and properly keeping exact and meticulous care in passing on these things, its very different.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:50 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (LHPAg)
Wife came in and said "I'm takin' a rainstorm nap," opened the windows and hit the couch.
It's currently 60 degrees in North Texas.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 30, 2025 03:47 PM (VofaG)
Amy Bony Carrot, Lefty Roberts, or Kryin Kavanaugh on any of them?
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:50 PM (M/gGe)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:46 PM (2VST1)
Oregon gets Mag 9 earthquakes at rare intervals. The last was dated because its Tsunamis wrecked the coast of Japan and they had records. The tsunami that didn't have to cross a huge ocean did horrible damage to the coast.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:50 PM (asFox)
With my doctor I get no respect, no respect at all. I told him I want a vasectomy. He said, with a face like mine, I don't need one
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 30, 2025 03:51 PM (5hfjS)
Notagreatplan
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:51 PM (M/gGe)
"Pikers, I suspended elections and changed the constitution several times in my country"
--Zelenskyyyyy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:51 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: 18-1
You mean Prince Andrew?
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Gladys Kravitz
Charge a print fee.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (hB7mE)
OT question, Bulg
Did you hear frm your son and his girlfriend in Spain. Are they o.k.?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (42Vb+)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (oSeBJ)
Who cares?
How can an electorate vote on issues if the very government the citizens cede power to to rule in their name keep secrets from the electorate?
Why even pretend to have elections at this point?
We can't know what's going on in the bowels of DC because Osama watches CNN from a Pakistani safehouse, we can't have opinions on anything if it disagrees with The Experts (tm), we can't ask questions how the integrity of elections.
And we're supposed to be the ones controlling the government and making informed decisions about how we vote every election?
So uh... what's our role here again?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (uCjyK)
Yes. And during Democratic ones.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Rod Serling at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (JRP2U)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (2VST1)
Would you like a spoiler alert on how that will go?
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 03:53 PM (M/gGe)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 30, 2025 03:54 PM (RIvkX)
And...they looked at the legends from the tribes in the area they expected to have been hit by it and sure enough they had legends about great waves coming and destroying their villages...
Honestly it looks like oral history has a lot more accuracy in it then people expected...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (t0Rmr)
they have geologic deposits from the earthquake - it was on the Oregon side. The Japanese were surprised there was a tsunami without an earthquake.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:54 PM (asFox)
Freedom always has a cost. Better to have embarrassing stuff released once in a while than to have everything be secrets we have to pry out of the government with a tire iron.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:55 PM (2VST1)
Which explains why Clinton and the rest of the clients advanced British foreign interests as our own, and Prince Phillip, a non-entity for anyone outside of Britain got picked up by the operation as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (t0Rmr)
Maxwell Senior worked for Mossad, was buried in Israel in a state funeral, and the Prime Minister of Israel said he "has done more for Israel than can today be said."
Might he have also been involved with British intelligence? Sure. Do the CIA use the 5 eyes to get around domestic spying laws? At times, yes.
Was Mossad running an Op on US soil, in collaboration with the Brits, without the CIA and NSA knowing? No chance.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:55 PM (uCjyK)
Good way to eliminate over 90% of government electronic communication.
That or cc: their related Office of Council and label literally everything "Attourney Work Product".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 03:55 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: brak at April 30, 2025 03:55 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: brak at April 30, 2025 03:55 PM (jGJov)
Sounds about right.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:56 PM (uCjyK)
There are many other exceptions that would need a taxonomy of their own, but the default should be "public and published in a timely manner with PII redacted" rather than "private and never and disclosed."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 03:56 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (oSeBJ)
Who cares?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 03:52 PM (uCjyK)
The people targeted by jihadis would care.
Hey, look everyone, there's going to be a huge meeting between all the Combatant Command commanders and a bunch of GS-7/9/11 chem/bio weapons researchers at this office building in Springfield, VA next Thursday at 1000.
Too bad they're all fucking dead now, because Harry needed to read their calendars himself.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:56 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2025 03:49 PM (v0R5T)
It doesnt get warmer blasting the beachfront a few miles inland.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 03:56 PM (asFox)
Has there been any FOIA of late that didn't have redactions?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 30, 2025 03:57 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 03:57 PM (E2I8c)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 30, 2025 03:57 PM (/U5Yz)
https://tinyurl.com/3vkmcdbf
This is going to face immediate and, in my opinion, warranted challenge on a First Amendment basis.
Posted by: Strict scrutiny at April 30, 2025 03:45 PM (TbWk/)
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If the MDM-MSM, politicians, celebrities, social media losers, et. al. can call Trump a Nazi, "literally Hitler," and for his assassination -- I'm thinking an Anti-Meme bill is DOA in any rational constitutional court (an unfortunately rather high bar, I know).
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 03:57 PM (0Tdve)
"You're raising a trans kid that warms my heart particularly as a black man would you care to share that journey"
Is it, "That warms my heart, particularly as a black man. Would you care to share that journey?"
Or, "That warms my heart. Particularly as a black man, would you care to share that journey?"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:57 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Yes, they're fine. Thanks for asking. He texted us that the power was back up, and my wife texted back, "Must've been an interesting day." Son replied, "Yeah."
Can't wait to hear his stories when he gets back.
Hope his flight back on Sunday isn't delayed, though. According to what was posted on the Morning Rant, flight delays could continue throughout the week.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 03:58 PM (77rzZ)
pay your taxes and don't ask questions
Posted by: brak at April 30, 2025 03:55 PM (jGJov)
Pretty much. Shut the fuck up, obey authority, and say thank you sir may I have another.
Posted by: When did this become the American ethos? at April 30, 2025 03:58 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: mea culpa at April 30, 2025 03:58 PM (qtsw+)
Britain’s first transgender judge is taking the UK to the European court of human rights over the supreme court’s ruling on biological sex.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 30, 2025 03:58 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (sagpo)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (bW09W)
Did anyone see Megyn Kelly's little tease clip about a parody she and a couple of her gal pals did, dubbed "Blonde Origin"? She's going to post in Friday.
Anyway, she and her friends took a ride on the Zero-g plane, goofing on Katy Perry and Lauren Sanchez. They had lines like, "When big boobs reach for the stars", and "Where cluelessness meets weightlessness".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (w6EFb)
That's why my position is, and has always been:
Working documents don't get released.
Final documents get released immediately.
But that's not what you were arguing for in the post.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: runner at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (g47mK)
Too bad they're all fucking dead now, because Harry needed to read their calendars himself.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:56 PM (oSeBJ)
Yes, I'm sure Al Qaeda has hit teams roaming the US looking for bio weapon researchers and their meetings. And that risk to the safety of our public servants far outweighs the benefit of us knowing how our taxpayer dollars are being spent and what's being done around the world in our name.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:00 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 30, 2025 03:58 PM (L/fGl)
I think it is a former judge. 'Trans former judge' was the headline I saw.
Robots in disguise.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 04:00 PM (E2I8c)
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 30, 2025 03:41 PM (a4NoL)
++++
Not all classification is illegitimate. I suspect a lot of it is but it has its place and this is one of them. In which case, just a stub entry.
"Department of Energy Nuclear Security Administration created a classified document." No content publicly viewable, but a public record of existence and fairy obvious why it would be classified. I am not opposed classification as such. There are many good reasons for it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:01 PM (WkNQM)
Michelle Obama: "You're raising a trans kid. That warms my heart, as a black man."
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Uhh, OK.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 30, 2025 04:01 PM (L/fGl)
Us rubes just have to live with it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (E2I8c)
Posted by: runner at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (g47mK)
For it, just not in it's current form.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 30, 2025 03:58 PM (L/fGl)
I think it is a former judge. 'Trans former judge' was the headline I saw.
Robots in disguise.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 04:00 PM (E2I8c)
I don't THINK Starmer has managed to crawl back into the EU enough that this suit would matter a lick.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (asFox)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (EafHQ)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)
Michelle Obama: "You're raising a trans kid. That warms my heart, as a black man."
Did she laugh like Hermann Munster afterwards?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:00 PM (uCjyK)
Yes. Jihadis are using AI to scour government documents to learn things so they can kill Americans or damage our interests.
They would continue using AI to scour government documents to learn things, except now they're going to learn about every preparatory meeting, test, in-person review, et al.
Shit, just releasing every email from every Navy ship at sea would tell everyone - in real time - exactly where that ship is.
But you need to read 'em, so fuck those guys.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (oSeBJ)
I've always liked the word "foyer."
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)
How do you feel about 'moist?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)
Us rubes just have to live with it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (E2I8c)
We exist to give them land and title, I mean, power and privilege. They aren't supposed to serve us, we're supposed to serve them.
Posted by: Didn't you get the neo-feudalism memo? at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (TbWk/)
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Does the farmer respond to FOIA requests from the dairy cows? I thought not.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (Dv3i1)
Posted by: torabora at April 30, 2025 03:14 PM (KtOUo)
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There’s a Steve Miller “Take the Money and Run” lyrics joke in there somehow.
Posted by: Dirac_Delta at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (iTLIU)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:05 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:05 PM (77rzZ)
I'd love to do an experiment. Put one of those candy stations using the honor system in a government coffee room....and a private business coffee room.
My guess is that the private business cash box will be pretty close at the end of the week. In a government office, the candy will be gone by lunch time the first day without a cent being found in the cash box.
Posted by: Orson at April 30, 2025 04:05 PM (dIske)
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 03:56 PM (oSeBJ)
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That would be classified, but even so, the *future* can never reasonably be part of disclosure. Past is another story, perhaps even with a sliding scale. At some point, that meeting - in a less extreme example where classification is not a legitimate factor (say, "Secretary of Transportation meeting with General Motors representatives"), I agree that appointment books should be public record. Not in advance and not even close of business, but at the close of the next quarter or after a year or some other reasonable timeline.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (WkNQM)
Glad they're o.k. Hope their flight back is smooth.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (1z+w8)
Us rubes just have to live with it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (E2I8c)
We exist to give them land and title, I mean, power and privilege. They aren't supposed to serve us, we're supposed to serve them.
Posted by: Didn't you get the neo-feudalism memo? at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (TbWk/)
Even the dumbest middle ages earl knew that if the farmers decided to quit, he and his men were all dead.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (asFox)
Like a National Geographic report on a tribe discovered in the Amazon jungle.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (2VST1)
I've always liked the word "foyer."
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)
How do you feel about 'moist?'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)
Moist definitely. Put it on my Citibank Moistercard.
Posted by: Didn't you get the neo-feudalism memo? at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (TbWk/)
They would continue using AI to scour government documents to learn things, except now they're going to learn about every preparatory meeting, test, in-person review, et al.
Shit, just releasing every email from every Navy ship at sea would tell everyone - in real time - exactly where that ship is.
But you need to read 'em, so fuck those guys.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:03 PM (oSeBJ)
Unfortunately, it's a risk they need to take if the very easily ascertainable position of their ship is released to these AI-enabled terrorists that our many many multi billion dollar a year "intel community" can't track down or thwart.
And before the terrorists, it was the Russians. And before the Russians, it was the Nazis and the Japs... etc. etc.
I guess that's how free societies operate, right? In secrecy. You have to, or the terrorists win.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:08 PM (S4ZTs)
Posted by: Sponge
Most words with the "oy" sound in them are pretty cool.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)
Us rubes just have to live with it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD workphone bot at April 30, 2025 04:02 PM (E2I8c)
As with the cops, the most important thing is that they make it home at the end of the day.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:08 PM (uCjyK)
For us, not for you. If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about.
Posted by: NSA agent jacking it to tranny hentai in his cubicle at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:08 PM (uCjyK)
And us.
- pensions
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (S4ZTs)
I guess that's how free societies operate, right? In secrecy. You have to, or the terrorists win.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (uCjyK)
From all the jokes about secrecy between Army and Navy, it isn't just foreigners they want to keep in the dark.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (asFox)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (ypFCm)
Ask the victims. Also I hear they like to especially hurt gays.
Ask American drug dealers if they like ms14 whatever.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (n5OtF)
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:09 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: runner at April 30, 2025 03:59 PM (g47mK)
Yes.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (M/gGe)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (Er3Q7)
Goddammit, Fred, I told you to reserve a conference room when you’re gonna do that.
Posted by: Bob from NSA at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (scBt+)
@LeadingReport 11m
BREAKING: New York State is set to implement a “bell-to-bell” cellphone ban in schools.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (mlg/3)
Michelle Obama: "You're raising a trans kid. That warms my heart, as a black man."
I guess that was supposed to be a joke?. If so, I don't think Michelle has a very good sense of humor.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (o3Uyl)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (2VST1)
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"Displaying a cross is worse than African boobs, h8r!"
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 04:10 PM (4vd8A)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 30, 2025 04:11 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:11 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (2VST1)
More like the Cargo Cult natives trying to make magic imitations of things they don't understand.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:11 PM (asFox)
Like a National Geographic report on a tribe discovered in the Amazon jungle.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (2VST1)
++++
A Hot Accessory, at the Intersection of Faith and Culture
Seen on influencers, pop stars and White House staff, cross necklaces are popping up everywhere.
I am not going to pay to read it, but this isn't exactly a new phenomenon.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:11 PM (WkNQM)
It was probably just a really poorly stated transition: "That warms my heart. Particularly as a black man, would you care to share that journey?"
But not done well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:12 PM (2VST1)
But NY does it? Not a peep.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:12 PM (S4ZTs)
@LeadingReport 11m
BREAKING: New York State is set to implement a “bell-to-bell” cellphone ban in schools.
teachers will go nuts.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:12 PM (asFox)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:13 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)
It was probably just a really poorly stated transition: "That warms my heart. Particularly as a black man, would you care to share that journey?"
But not done well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:12 PM (2VST1)
When you ask a question you don't need to insert information about yourself.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:14 PM (asFox)
When I was a kid, the biggest problem the schools had to deal with is Bubble Gum. And, they couldn't even ban that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2025 04:14 PM (SFdpn)
All Big Mike does on her podcast is bitch about Barky. It's almost enough to kinda sorta make you feel sorry for the doofus.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 30, 2025 04:14 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:13 PM (77rzZ)
+++++
This busty blonde in a dress is pretty sure the's been one:
http://tiny.cc/9oai001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:14 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (/U5Yz)
When I was a kid, the biggest problem the schools had to deal with is Bubble Gum. And, they couldn't even ban that.
-----------------
There was a shit ton of it under my desk in English. Sort of repulsive.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (pZ64F)
Seen on influencers, pop stars and White House staff, cross necklaces are popping up everywhere.
I am not going to pay to read it, but this isn't exactly a new phenomenon.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:11 PM (WkNQM)
Remember the old Olive Garden article in that vein from forever ago. Sounded like Stanley meets Livingston.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (asFox)
BREAKING: New York State is set to implement a “bell-to-bell” cellphone ban in schools.
Will teachers have to teach? I can't see that going over too well with the union.
Posted by: t-bird at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (4Nep/)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (/U5Yz)
http://tiny.cc/9oai001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Oh my. Very nice. Thanks.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (77rzZ)
But someone in the White House wears one and it’s OMG OMG OMG Christian Nationalism.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (S4ZTs)
What was weird is how much kids absolutely needed to chew bubble gum in class, and it all had to do with Defiance.
It wasn't about bubble gum -- it was an act of defiance.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (SFdpn)
All Big Mike does on her podcast is bitch about Barky. It's almost enough to kinda sorta make you feel sorry for the doofus.
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Nah.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (M/gGe)
"You're raising a trans kid that warms my heart particularly as a black man would you care to share that journey"
Is it, "That warms my heart, particularly as a black man. Would you care to share that journey?"
Or, "That warms my heart. Particularly as a black man, would you care to share that journey?"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 03:57 PM (2VST1)
heh
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Oldcat
The one by Lileks?
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (77rzZ)
Not for nothing, but why were you touching the bottom of your desk?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (SFdpn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (bW09W)
it's not teachers that hate this, it's parents
parents rage at the idea of not being able to text their kids at school
Posted by: brak at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (M/gGe)
They should have used segway rather than transition.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Too slow...
Segway is a two-wheeled, self-balancing personal transporter device
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (EafHQ)
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 04:16 PM (M/gGe)
And touchy.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:18 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (WkNQM)
No, it wouldn't be classified.
A stand-up meeting to get all the players on the same page so that, over the next year, or whatever, everyone's goals/funding/timing align ISN'T classified. It's just a meeting to discuss timing and transition periods, and there are thousands of meetings like that (and similarly mundane), the knowledge of which would identify what individuals are working on what projects, even years afterward, because that's how long it takes to develop new things.
There seems to be this general idea at the HQ that everything DoD touches is classified. That's simply false. Around 20% of DoD employees don't even have a clearance at all.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:18 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 04:18 PM (/U5Yz)
We have an outstanding FOIA request from 2018 with the Department of Energy. DOE sucks anyway, but their FOIA desk is never occupied by a living being in possession of a brain. When someone new comes along to "fill the position," then the request is moved back to the bottom of the stack, as though it was just received yesterday.
And this is for routine stuff, not sooper sekrit information.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (rxCpr)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (S4ZTs)
I don’t feel sorry for him at all - your turn, buddy!
Give the rest of us privileged, ungrateful haters a break!
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (77Bgk)
http://tiny.cc/9oai001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:14 PM (WkNQM)
I'd say she has a weird face. But I'm not sure she even has a face.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:13 PM (bW09W)
Segue.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: ...
Boobs were the best aides to concentration. Not necessarily on the material being taught, however.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Oldcat
The one by Lileks?
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:17 PM (77rzZ)
Think so, there might have been others too.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (asFox)
Posted by: Bulg
It's been somme years but I think Hawaii's was the Sunshine Law.
Got laid off from a job there because 'no work'. While at unemployment office I caught a glimpse of the guys monitor and the company that laid me off for 'no work' had the same job listed... So I asked for a copy of my unemployment file... Was told "no can do as there is 'personel' information in it" my own information so it was exempt from disclosure...
Actually I suspect the office was not submitting my applications that I had to go through them for jobs that employers listed with them. Part of the 'system' was most employers could withhold their name so you didn't know who you were applying with... It's why I snuck a peak at the monitor in the first place.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (/lPRQ)
http://tiny.cc/9oai001
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Her butt is a little large but, I'll overlook that.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 30, 2025 04:21 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:21 PM (EafHQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:13 PM (bW09W)
Segue.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (CQE5S)
Let's roll!
Posted by: We usually walk moist places at April 30, 2025 04:21 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
Means that the boobs are likely natural.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:22 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:22 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:06 PM (uCjyK)
With some secrecy, yes. Most of us are arguing over to what degree the US Government should be able to operate in secret.
Not you, though. You're arguing that if our intelligence agencies can't stop every threat against every unit even when we spot them the live locations of same, then we shouldn't even bother.
Do you think your position leads to a bigger or smaller government intelligence cabal?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:22 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:18 PM (oSeBJ)
++++
Which is why future events would be out-of-scope and it would be fine for there to be a required time period before things like calendars would be made public. And I already acknowledged in the main post that PII would need to be stripped/redacted.
There are definitely some gaps in my original thought. I considered contracts but not drafts, as an obvious example. But "there needs to be a time gap for a lot of stuff before disclosure depending on agency and category" and "there must never be disclosure" are worlds apart.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:23 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:23 PM (bW09W)
Um...it's a scooter. Electronic, but still a scooter.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:24 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: the heat from burning strawmen at April 30, 2025 04:24 PM (TbWk/)
I was assured a 1929 style crash was gonna happen cuz Tarriffs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:25 PM (S4ZTs)
Yeah they oversold the hell out of that goofy thing. Neat balancing tech, but just a scooter like you said.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:26 PM (2VST1)
@LeadingReport 11m
BREAKING: New York State is set to implement a “bell-to-bell” cellphone ban in schools.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
Wouldn't it be better to tap into their comm with a Stingray and post everything on a big monitor at the main entrance?
They are in a public building...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:26 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:28 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:28 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:23 PM (WkNQM)
Concur.
Outside of active operational intelligence, once it's final, release it.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:28 PM (oSeBJ)
https://tinyurl.com/3ev4zhrt
James O'Keefe is not suicidal. Pray for him.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (/U5Yz)
___________________________
It's funny because he's an atheist.
Posted by: Going for the Ben schtick at April 30, 2025 04:28 PM (dIske)
"4) any actual kids that were abused are either dead or adults who might want to put that shit behind them and not wind up "famous" for it. "
Instead of famous use notorious.
Posted by: Ciampino - it's a suggestion at April 30, 2025 04:28 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:29 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:22 PM (oSeBJ)
No, I'm not arguing that, and that is not a good faith reading of my arguments, and you know it.
I'm saying that once we accept this absurd premise that the all-important work being done in DC can't be made public because "the bad guys could find out!" then that's kind of the end of the argument. Because we can't even know about the alleged threats by the bad guys, because that's classified.
So if that's the end of the argument, fine. But don't pretend that we live in a free society where an informed electorate decides how our government operates.
And my argument, by the way, is the exact argument Congress made in passing the FOIA in the 1960's. And they put in the limited exemptions that you claim you need so that you're not hunted down by AI-enabled terrorists. And those exemptions swallowed the rule. And here we are.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: try the veal at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: Soothsayer
How many Magic Nose Goblins?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (/lPRQ)
https://tinyurl.com/3ev4zhrt
James O'Keefe is not suicidal. Pray for him.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 30, 2025 04:15 PM (/U5Yz)
At the beginning of that clip, is he saying, "I'm going dark"?
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:26 PM (2VST1)
++++
They were (and still are, for all I know) useful in a bunch of contexts, after modification. I saw an outfit that made them into a hands-free configuration of big, squishy tires for cameramen to quickly follow action over non-smooth terrain and leave his hands free to operate the camera (steer by leaning, partially seated/squatting when in use). Very neat.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (WkNQM)
Posted by: runner at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (g47mK)
He didn't believe in dog.
Posted by: try the veal at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (jGJov)
_______________________
I don't get it.
Posted by: James Madison's Apprentice at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:26 PM (2VST1)
The only good thing to come out of that fad was Paul Blart, Mall Cop.
The perfect end was when the owner of the company sailed off a cliff while riding one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (QULmo)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (WvGHv)
Instead of famous use notorious.
Posted by: Ciampino
I don't think "notorious" would be appropriate for the victims, only the perps. Perhaps a more neutral term like "well-known" for the victims
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (scBt+)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:30 PM (uCjyK)
I don't see anyone saying that.
I see people - including me - saying that SOME government work can't be made public.
I've also said, over and over, that every final government document should be immediately released to the public.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:31 PM (bW09W)
https://tinyurl.com/2br9hmfb
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2025 04:32 PM (42Vb+)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:32 PM (scBt+)
Must be a thing in Korean schools.
Was a plot device in "All of Us Are Dead"...
How do you call for help when the school takes all your cell phones and it gets overrun by zombies?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:33 PM (/lPRQ)
Not for nothing, but why were you touching the bottom of your desk?
----------------
Cuz we were discussing Ethan Frome.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 30, 2025 04:33 PM (pZ64F)
"To complete the experiment, Henry and his mom, Kerry Hyde, bought non-toxic lipstick and applied it to each of their cat's anuses."
https://tinyurl.com/yf4rmsv9
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 30, 2025 04:33 PM (UBKzV)
Yeah they oversold the hell out of that goofy thing. Neat balancing tech, but just a scooter like you said.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 30, 2025 04:26 PM (2VST1)
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Now there are dozens of variations of those electric scooters/bicycles. I see students on campus zipping around on those all the time. Makes the Segway look lame by comparison.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 30, 2025 04:33 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:33 PM (bW09W)
I'm going dark.
I'm not suicidal.
Pray for me.
This one scares me, guys.
https://tinyurl.com/3ev4zhrt
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:34 PM (CQE5S)
I'm not suicidal.
Pray for me.
This one scares me, guys.
https://tinyurl.com/3ev4zhrt
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:34 PM (CQE5S)
Yeah, agreed. The multiple camera angles and production quality kind of detract from me thinking this is anything other than a marketing gimmick though.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
There would be no secert spy planes or materials....not a good idea
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (EafHQ)
Posted by: Boss Moss
Did you hear what caused the atheists' riot?
They found a blank piece of paper on a magazine artist's desk.
(Joke from the era of the Danish Mohammed cartoons.)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (77rzZ)
I work with guys who can't seem to get their phone out of their hands.
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (ypFCm)
Over the short run, things like timing of ICE raids and the like seem fair game.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (scBt+)
321 270
Not for nothing, but why were you touching the bottom of your desk?
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Cuz we were discussing Ethan Frome.
Posted by: Pudinhead
/strokes chin
Ah.
Understood.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (SFdpn)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:36 PM (EafHQ)
Posted by: Kindltot at April 30, 2025 04:36 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:36 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2025 04:36 PM (42Vb+)
https://tinyurl.com/5fnj89bp
Posted by: Kindltot at April 30, 2025 04:36 PM (D7oie)
Link did not work for me.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:37 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (ypFCm)
It’s ver effeminate. I see these young dudes, even guys in construction and stuff, who are always checking their phones.
Heard some guy said he is always checking Instagram. I thought that was a girls’ site.
(I typed this on my phone, tho, so glass houses..)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:37 PM (scBt+)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (EafHQ)
We had already established the caveats for classified programs/weapons/systems.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:38 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 30, 2025 04:38 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:38 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (scBt+)
So you don't think Bondi should be prosecuting the government employees who leaked the dates/time/locations of ICE raids to obstruct the apprehension/deportation of illegals?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:39 PM (oSeBJ)
Instead of famous use notorious.
Posted by: Ciampino - it's a suggestion at April 30, 2025 04:28 PM (sPQoU)
Dead. If they try to open their mouths they will be dead.
Oh, by the way, RFK Jr's statement here is kind of important
https://tinyurl.com/5fnj89bp
Posted by: Kindltot at April 30, 2025 04:39 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Boss Moss
......
But then you'd be missing out on all the babes.
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2025 04:39 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Max Power at April 30, 2025 04:39 PM (q177U)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at April 30, 2025 04:39 PM (WvGHv)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (scBt+)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
Remember the ussr scientists that used robber soled shoes to gather metal shavings?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (EafHQ)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (cMECq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:38 PM (bW09W)
O.k., thanks. I see it's on Libs of TikTok and I've found it there.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)
_________________________
Same...but, on the other hand, the dude delivers time and time again. And, is relatively fearless. He seems to have a pretty good handle on targeting the insufferable blowhards who will brag about their endeavors.
Who knows. He might be playing around with something pretty nasty.
Posted by: Orson at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Orson
Lena Dunham doesn't sound like his type.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:42 PM (77rzZ)
I work with guys who can't seem to get their phone out of their hands.
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 04:35 PM (ypFCm)
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I've got a couple of student workers who are chronically addicted to their phones. We've had to lay down some harsh ground rules about phone usage at work.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 30, 2025 04:42 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:39 PM (oSeBJ)
They should be deported, too.
I meant fair game for secrecy. In other words, the older info is the less likely I am to support redaction, unless it’s nuclear secrets.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:42 PM (scBt+)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 30, 2025 04:40 PM (EafHQ)
I remember reading about it - I'm only 44. That was for the Mig-15, I think.
Anna would know for sure.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:42 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 30, 2025 04:42 PM (scBt+)
Ah. I made a mistake reading your initial post.
I agree with this one.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 04:43 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Orson
Lena Dunham doesn't sound like his type.
Posted by: Bulg at April 30, 2025 04:42 PM (77rzZ)
ewwwwww
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:44 PM (CQE5S)
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
1h
"During the Biden administration, HHS became a collaborator in child trafficking and for s*x and for slavery" - RFK Jr
HOLY SHLIT
[video]
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 30, 2025 04:45 PM (Vqx30)
Posted by: Jan. 6'ers at April 30, 2025 04:45 PM (VE6XX)
https://tinyurl.com/5fnj89bp
Posted by: Kindltot
Somebody had to fill the role after Epstein suicided.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:46 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 04:46 PM (ypFCm)
@libsoftiktok
1h
"During the Biden administration, HHS became a collaborator in child trafficking and for s*x and for slavery" - RFK Jr
this guy is just asking to get Kennedy-ed
Posted by: CIA at April 30, 2025 04:47 PM (jGJov)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 04:46 PM (ypFCm)
And still you make the top commenters list a lot!
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:47 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: CIA at April 30, 2025 04:47 PM (jGJov)
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I believe that the 21st century term is Epstein-ed.
Posted by: ShainS at April 30, 2025 04:48 PM (WbV6R)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:50 PM (bW09W)
Posted by: Jan. 6'ers at April 30, 2025 04:45 PM (VE6XX)
Dupe Process
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:50 PM (CQE5S)
===
Why do these arrests only happen when Trump is in office?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:51 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: CIA at April 30, 2025 04:47 PM (jGJov)
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I believe that the 21st century term is Epstein-ed.
Posted by: ShainS
Since he's a Kennedy, he's asking to be John'd or Bobby'd.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2025 04:51 PM (xsqwN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:50 PM (bW09W)
++++
Apparently, 100%...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2025 04:52 PM (WkNQM)
.......
So Patel and Bondi are out making arrests as you speak?
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2025 04:53 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: CIA at April 30, 2025 04:47 PM (jGJov)
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I believe that the 21st century term is Epstein-ed.
Posted by: ShainS
Since he's a Kennedy, he's asking to be John'd or Bobby'd.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2025 04:51 PM (xsqwN)
I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill
With Abraham, Martin, and John
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:53 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 04:54 PM (bW09W)
You rang?
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at April 30, 2025 04:55 PM (e7zAw)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 30, 2025 04:55 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 30, 2025 04:55 PM (2cS/G)
Ha!
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 04:56 PM (CQE5S)
30 Kinda funny when you consider how much metadata on every American’s activity, thought, purchase, health, etc.
FOUA seems about as quaint as concern that the government wants to access your library history.
They know everything about us (along with google, meta, etc.) but we must beg for redacted records that take months, years.
Posted by: Canadian Gen Z at April 30, 2025 03:19 PM (KQ27X)
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No, the FOUA is good stuff. Keep it.
Posted by: Bum Pissing on Your Car at April 30, 2025 04:58 PM (iTNuP)
FOIA should be no different. FFS.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 30, 2025 04:58 PM (ALUT+)
Anybody else have this problem??
Posted by: dantesed at April 30, 2025 04:59 PM (Oy/m2)
Anybody else have this problem??
Posted by: dantesed at April 30, 2025 04:59 PM (Oy/m2)
No
Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2025 04:59 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: wth at April 30, 2025 04:53 PM (v0R5T)
From post 367 it sounds like something is happening.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2025 05:00 PM (LJcNN)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 05:00 PM (bW09W)
Anybody else have this problem??
Posted by: dantesed at April 30, 2025 04:59 PM (Oy/m2)
People have talked about it on other threads and the (a?) solution is to turn off java(script?) or have an adblocker.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:00 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (S4ZTs)
Way to spoil the fantasy.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 05:01 PM (E0p3T)
...and the California legislature is making whoring legal for 16 and 17 year olds? Only with appropriate criminal supervision, I'm guessing.
Posted by: Auspex at April 30, 2025 05:01 PM (j4U/Z)
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:01 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 30, 2025 04:19 PM (S4ZTs)
Way to spoil the fantasy.
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 05:01 PM (E0p3T)
Oh, man, that hit my funnybone.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:02 PM (CQE5S)
Are you here?
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 30, 2025 05:02 PM (w6EFb)
They've arrested Congress?????!!!!!!!
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 30, 2025 05:02 PM (ALUT+)
They've arrested Congress?????!!!!!!!
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 30, 2025 05:02 PM (ALUT+)
And their spouses.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:03 PM (CQE5S)
They've arrested Congress?????!!!!!!!
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 30, 2025 05:02 PM (ALUT+)
Themselves
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 05:03 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above!
________
It would take tens of thousands of employees to do that given the number of FOIA requests.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 30, 2025 05:03 PM (UBKzV)
Looks like the FBI is arresting bad guys as opposed to Wray's going after parents at school board meetings..
Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2025 05:03 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2025 05:03 PM (VE6XX)
Wonder how the FBI knew about them..........
Posted by: ... at April 30, 2025 05:04 PM (E0p3T)
I'm trying to make the numbers add up to 764:
Congress has a total of 535 voting members, a figure which includes 100 senators and 435 representatives; the House of Representatives has 6 additional non-voting members. The vice president of the United States, as President of the Senate, has a vote in the Senate only when there is a tie.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:04 PM (CQE5S)
There are no "teeth" baked into the cake. There's no penalties for failure to produce.
Make it "failure to provide information and documentation within ten days of request or the departmental director will spend 15 days in solitary at the closest federal detention facility".
Guarandamnteed it'll change toot sweet.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2025 05:04 PM (xsqwN)
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at April 30, 2025 05:05 PM (e7zAw)
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 30, 2025 05:05 PM (ALUT+)
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at April 30, 2025 05:05 PM (e7zAw)
Might as well jump (jump)!
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:06 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 30, 2025 05:06 PM (bW09W)
That checks out.
Posted by: garrett at April 30, 2025 05:06 PM (Ruu2t)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April
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Can Abbott get wheelie skid marks with his chai
Posted by: From about That Time at April 30, 2025 05:06 PM (v5U2D)
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:06 PM (CQE5S)
@libsoftiktok
1h
"During the Biden administration, HHS became a collaborator in child trafficking and for s*x and for slavery" - RFK Jr
--
Why hasn't G*d smashed a fiery meteor of doom into Washington DC yet? If true, our Founders are spinning so fast their bones have turned to powder.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 30, 2025 05:07 PM (qBdHI)
There are no "teeth" baked into the cake. There's no penalties for failure to produce.
Make it "failure to provide information and documentation within ten days of request or the departmental director will spend 15 days in solitary at the closest federal detention facility".
Guarandamnteed it'll change toot sweet.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2025 05:04 PM (xsqwN)
See my 377. Whe Bn Cdrs were pulled out of the field to respond to "Congressionals" you knew it was damn serious. Not responding was not an option. It was a career ender.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 30, 2025 05:07 PM (ALUT+)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 30, 2025 05:08 PM (i24o9)
===
Why do these arrests only happen when Trump is in office?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 30, 2025 04:51 PM (/lPRQ)
Next you'll try to tell me that actually enforcing laws we already have will really help slow illegal aliens coming to the US!
That'd just be crazy talk!
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 30, 2025 05:08 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at April 30, 2025 05:08 PM (cMECq)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 05:09 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: Ciampino - it was a suggestion at April 30, 2025 05:09 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at April 30, 2025 05:10 PM (cMECq)
==
He found 10 righteous people there ?
Posted by: runner at April 30, 2025 05:10 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 30, 2025 05:07 PM (qBdHI)
I don't know, but we'll never know the whole story, which kind of relates back to the point of this post.
Suffice to say we already know that USAID was funding the human trafficking to get the immigrants up here, including a whole lot of "unaccompanied minors" and we know most of them just ... disappeared.
Now RFK is saying DHS was also involved.
Unfortunately, if we had access to the information here to know what is really going on, Al Qaeda would win, so we should just shut up like good serfs.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2025 05:10 PM (uCjyK)
Megatron Roasting Guests at Universal Studios
https://youtu.be/lkJK3c25JOA
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 30, 2025 05:08 PM (i24o9)
hahahahaha
Maybe it's Ace in there.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:11 PM (CQE5S)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 05:12 PM (oSeBJ)
Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2025 05:12 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 30, 2025 05:12 PM (oSeBJ)
As it were.
Posted by: m at April 30, 2025 05:14 PM (CQE5S)
Skip, what's a data comment?
Posted by: Ciampino - it's a FOIA demand at April 30, 2025 05:25 PM (sPQoU)
Should FBI files on people who are being investigated be released? While parts of those files can be classified most are protected from release in FOIA as "Law Enforcement Sensitive".
Posted by: Gutrender at April 30, 2025 05:59 PM (tM2/o)
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