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Treasury Secretary Bessent: We Have the Opportunity for a "Beautiful Rebalancing" of Trade With China; Tariffs Could be Lowered to 50-65%
Those tariffs are still beastly for China.
Trump talked about cutting the tariffs "substantially" down from the current 145% level.This is CNN so of course they're promoting Chinese communist propaganda about the US president. China insists it's not even negotiating with China, and won't negotiate until Trump cancels all tariffs on China.
US President Donald Trump has signaled a potential U-turn on his trade war with China amid continued market volatility, saying the high tariffs on Chinese goods will "come down substantially, but it won't be zero." Trump's remarks, made at a White House news event Tuesday, appear to mark a rhetorical climbdown after weeks of tough posturing and tit-for-tat retaliation that sent tariffs on China beyond a staggering 145%. "145% is very high and it won't be that high," Trump said in a question-and-answer session with reporters in the Oval Office. "It won't be anywhere near that high. It'll come down substantially. But it won't be zero." Trump made the comments when asked about Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent's remarks earlier in the day that the high tariff rates between the United States and China have effectively embargoed trade between the economies. Bessent said at a private investment conference hosted by JP Morgan Chase that the trade war with China is unsustainable and he expects the battle to de-escalate in the very near future, a person familiar with the matter confirmed to CNN. Instead of a hard break or complete decoupling between the United States and China, Bessent told investors that the goal is to have a rebalancing of trade, the source told CNN. ... Trump's shift in tone also went viral on the Chinese internet. On Wednesday, the hashtag "Trump chickened out" was trending as a top topic on social media platform Weibo, racking up more than 150 million views.
Trump rejects that, for obvious reasons.
China has called on the US to cancel its sweeping tariffs on Chinese goods entering the country as a sign that the President Donald Trump is serious about resolving the trade war between the two countries. A Chinese official said there had been no trade talks with the US, despite suggestions otherwise from the Trump administration. The trade war between the world's two largest economies has been escalating, with China sending back Boeing planes it ordered from the US in its latest retaliation over tariffs. But Trump has appeared to soften his stance on China, saying that the taxes he has so far imposed on Chinese imports would "come down substantially, but it won't be zero". A trade war between China and the US is in full swing, with Trump imposing import taxes of up to 145% on Chinese goods coming into the US, and China hitting back with a 125% tax on American products. In one of China's strongest statements yet over the tariff war, Commerce Ministry spokesman He Yadong said the US should remove all "unilateral tariff measures" against China "if it truly wanted" to solve the issue. "The person who tied the bell must untie it," he added. Separately, Foreign Ministry spokesman Guo Jiakun said China and the US had "not conducted consultations or negotiations on tariffs, let alone reached an agreement". He added that reports to the contrary were "false". Trump previously said negotiations between the countries were "active" - but this was also contradicted by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who said on Wednesday they had not yet begun. Bessent added that there was an opportunity for a "big deal" between the US and China on trade. He has previously said he expected a de-escalation of the "unsustainable" trade war, and said the current situation was "not a joke".Treasury Secretary Bessent seems to believe China will negotiate.
Watch: Trump insists the US and China are having trade talks
Trump hints at softening China tariffs and says no plan to sack Fed boss
At a glance: Trump's tariffs on China, EU and rest of the world Trump said on Tuesday that he would be "very nice" in negotiations with Beijing in the hope of securing a trade deal. But following China's latest comments, he said on his Truth Social media platform "Boeing should default China for not taking the beautifully finished planes that China committed to purchase". "This is just a small example of what China has done to the USA, for years," he added, before repeating accusations that synthetic opioid fentanyl "continues to pour into our country from China, through Mexico and Canada, killing hundreds of thousands of our people". The boss of plane manufacturer Boeing revealed China had sent back aircraft it had ordered from the US as part of its retaliation to tariffs.
Bessent agrees that one factor driving our trade deficits are our budget deficits -- we're always printing and spending more money than we have, which creates a "demand suck" bringing in imports. He also talks about the dollar's position as the world's reserve currency driving up the value of the dollar and therefore raising the prices of US exports as well as creating that "demand suck" for foreign imports. See the link for that. (He doesn't want to give up the dollar's position as reserve currency.)
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said there is "an incredible opportunity" for the US and China to achieve what he terms a "beautiful rebalancing" on Wednesday, at an event held by the Institute of International Finance Treasury. Bessent spoke more about his call for a course correction for the International Monetary Fund and World Bank and the "back to basics" approach Trump wants for the international economic order. "The U.S. does not have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem," Bessent told Tim Adams, president and CEO of the Institute of International Finance (IIF) Global Outlook Forum. ... [BESSENT:] Alternatively, what I have said previously, there is an opportunity for a big deal here that the U.S. is looking to rebalance to more manufacturing. The identity of that would be less consumption. If China is serious, on less dependence on export-led manufacturing growth and a rebalancing toward a domestic economy. I think they use the term dual circulation. Well, it's right now it's really singular circulation. And if they want to rebalance, let's do it together. This is an incredible opportunity. And I think if the Bridgewater founder, Ray Dalio, were to write something, he could call it a beautiful rebalancing indeed.
This is a good point:
ADAMS: So you're already taking on the task of China, more consumption, less investment, dealing with their manufacturing excess capacity. Europe's a great opportunity, the U.S. rebalancing here, including on fiscal. So what do you want the IMF to do? What would you like to hear from Kristalina over the next couple of days or the board in a new direction? Again, back to factory settings direction. What do you want to hear from them? BESSENT: Well, again, I think it's just been mission creep. And occasionally you have to trim your garden when the weeds grow. And I think that it's back to basics. What are our priorities and how are we going to judge success? And the World Bank, you discussed about graduating the medium-sized countries that should have graduated some time ago, that changes the commercial model of the World Bank. But obviously, you think that's important. They need to be graduated.
He means that small economies routinely have big trade surpluses (relative to their tiny size, I mean), but large economies tend to be more balanced as internal consumption catches up with exports for foreign markets. But China is manipulating things to keep pumping out exports like an undeveloped country while actually having the world's second-biggest economy. I can't find a print article stating this, but Megyn Kelly claims that Trump is considering a cutting the tariffs to 50 or 65%. He also floated a scheme in which imports that don't threaten national security will be taxed at 35%, while those that do will be taxed at 100%.
ADAMS: Yes. I mean, it's just as President Trump says, it's common sense that you can't have the second largest economy in the world and... I applaud their rapid growth, but you don't get both. It's like the teenager who sometimes wants to be treated like a child, sometimes wants to be treated like an adult. And I got one of those, too. And it's an adult economy.
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I'll alert the others.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 24, 2025 04:24 PM (O7YUW)
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Hi Ho
Posted by: Ciampino - cause & reaction is key? at April 24, 2025 04:25 PM (sPQoU)
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Wait, I thought Trump was folding g without getting anything?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 24, 2025 04:25 PM (2Yslk)
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Another day without Kamala is a BEEEAUTIFUL DAY
Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (sBjls)
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Jeffrey Goldberg, the notorious editor of The Atlantic who's made a career out of publishing anonymous hit pieces against Donald Trump, is finally going to have to look President Trump in the eye. And boy, is this going to be interesting.
Trump, displaying his characteristic boldness, announced he'll be sitting down with Goldberg and his cadre of liberal scribes, including Michael Scherer and Ashley Parker— neither of whom could be mistaken for MAGA supporters.
Trump, displaying his characteristic boldness, announced he'll be sitting down with Goldberg and his cadre of liberal scribes, including Michael Scherer and Ashley Parker— neither of whom could be mistaken for MAGA supporters.
Posted by: SMOD at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (RHGPo)
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Saving face is a big deal in Asia. This should be fun.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (pZ64F)
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Slave labor makes a huge difference too I. Trade balance.
I just had a moment. We have a country that is actively using both Co contraction camps and slavery- and people are whining about a gang member who got sent back to his own country.
I just had a moment. We have a country that is actively using both Co contraction camps and slavery- and people are whining about a gang member who got sent back to his own country.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (2Yslk)
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Treasury Secretary Bessent: We Have the Opportunity for a "Beautiful Rebalancing" of Trade With China; Tariffs Could be Lowered to 50-65%
—Ace
Those tariffs are still beastly for China.
Clearly Trump has never learned to negotiate. You start by giving up every lever you have, then beg your opponent to not whip you as hard.
—Ace
Those tariffs are still beastly for China.
Clearly Trump has never learned to negotiate. You start by giving up every lever you have, then beg your opponent to not whip you as hard.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
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Saving face is a big deal in Asia. This should be fun.
I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:28 PM (s8j++)
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You desperately need a market. I have a market. Let's talk.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (pZ64F)
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The Goldberg thing is interesting. It is either ballsy or not at all.
I will say this: I LIKE Trump.
I will say this: I LIKE Trump.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (2Yslk)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (63Dwl)
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Trump previously said negotiations between the countries were "active" - but this was also contradicted by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who said on Wednesday they had not yet begun.
Idiot media, the tariffs ARE the negotiation.
Idiot media, the tariffs ARE the negotiation.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (jc0TO)
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Clearly Trump has never learned to negotiate. You start by giving up every lever you have, then beg your opponent to not whip you as hard.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
Sock fail, should be GOPe.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
Sock fail, should be GOPe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (2Yslk)
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Meanwhile in Space .....
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-74
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - SPACE AFFAIRS
Launch Date: April 24, 2025 (EDT)
Launch Time: 9:52 p.m. EDT - (April 25, 0152 UTC, 0352 UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/live/oq2DvxHvQiE
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-74
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - SPACE AFFAIRS
Launch Date: April 24, 2025 (EDT)
Launch Time: 9:52 p.m. EDT - (April 25, 0152 UTC, 0352 UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/live/oq2DvxHvQiE
Posted by: Ciampino - Musk's bread & butter at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (sPQoU)
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china will only agree if they get to set the rules. if people go hungry in peeking, xi jing ping won't care unless it leads to a major revolt, my word as a biden
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 24, 2025 04:29 PM (CWTWj)
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ADAMS: Yes. I mean, it's just as President Trump says, it's common sense that you can't have the second largest economy in the world and... I applaud their rapid growth, but you don't get both. It's like the teenager who sometimes wants to be treated like a child, sometimes wants to be treated like an adult. And I got one of those, too. And it's an adult economy.
He means that small economies routinely have big trade surpluses (relative to their tiny size, I mean), but large economies tend to be more balanced as internal consumption catches up with exports for foreign markets. But China is manipulating things to keep pumping out exports like an undeveloped country while actually having the world's second-biggest economy.
The teen thing is an excellent analogy.
He means that small economies routinely have big trade surpluses (relative to their tiny size, I mean), but large economies tend to be more balanced as internal consumption catches up with exports for foreign markets. But China is manipulating things to keep pumping out exports like an undeveloped country while actually having the world's second-biggest economy.
The teen thing is an excellent analogy.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (s8j++)
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The Goldberg thing is interesting. It is either ballsy or not at all.
He figures if it worked on Maher...
The Goldberg thing is interesting. It is either ballsy or not at all.
He figures if it worked on Maher...
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (63Dwl)
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China won't negotiate so we are negotiating with ourselves. Is that called winning?
Posted by: Oglebay at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (2ap+5)
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Philippe Lemoine @phl43 -
Presumably, China has felt the impact of the tariffs right away, because orders from the US must have stopped as soon as the tariffs on imports from China came into effect.
American consumers on the other hand won't really feel the pain until US retailers empty their inventories, because only then will they have to jack up their prices and I'm guessing that most of them won't do it until then in the hope that a deal can be struck before that happens, so I'm guessing that the pressure on Trump will become unbearable sometime in May or June.
I think he knows it and that's why he keeps sending increasingly desperate signals to China that he wants to make a deal, but the problem for him is that the Chinese also know it.
Apr 24, 2025 · 6:09 PM UTC
Presumably, China has felt the impact of the tariffs right away, because orders from the US must have stopped as soon as the tariffs on imports from China came into effect.
American consumers on the other hand won't really feel the pain until US retailers empty their inventories, because only then will they have to jack up their prices and I'm guessing that most of them won't do it until then in the hope that a deal can be struck before that happens, so I'm guessing that the pressure on Trump will become unbearable sometime in May or June.
I think he knows it and that's why he keeps sending increasingly desperate signals to China that he wants to make a deal, but the problem for him is that the Chinese also know it.
Apr 24, 2025 · 6:09 PM UTC
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (gKWVE)
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Clearly Trump has never learned to negotiate. You start by giving up every lever you have, then beg your opponent to not whip you as hard.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
Sock fail, should be GOPe.
I embrace the healing power of "and".
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
Sock fail, should be GOPe.
I embrace the healing power of "and".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (s8j++)
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They rely on our petrochemicals to make plastic and we are turning off the tap.
Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (YwEeS)
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9 Saving face is a big deal in Asia. This should be fun.
I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
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Asia is what it is. Its always been that way. Russia is Europe with a shit ton of Asia in it. Get used to this. That said, Trump holds the Pimp Hand and Xi knows it.
I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
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Asia is what it is. Its always been that way. Russia is Europe with a shit ton of Asia in it. Get used to this. That said, Trump holds the Pimp Hand and Xi knows it.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (pZ64F)
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Well IDK. But I guess we can agree that 50-65% is less than 145%, right? So he’s “negotiating” with himself.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:31 PM (wjLW2)
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You know who will have tremendous face? The guy who shoots Xi in the head and then resolves the trade war.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 04:31 PM (jc0TO)
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Wait, I thought Trump was folding g without getting anything?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 24, 2025 04:25 PM (2Yslk)
Near as I can tell, Trump is saying that he'd be willing to go back to what he put on China in the first place without all the escalations that were added because they decided to play games.
Saying that Trump "caved" would allow Xi to acquiesce while still saving face. Trump, who we know has a thin skin and doesn't handle insults well, would let it slide because it gets him to what he wants.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 24, 2025 04:25 PM (2Yslk)
Near as I can tell, Trump is saying that he'd be willing to go back to what he put on China in the first place without all the escalations that were added because they decided to play games.
Saying that Trump "caved" would allow Xi to acquiesce while still saving face. Trump, who we know has a thin skin and doesn't handle insults well, would let it slide because it gets him to what he wants.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:31 PM (ExV1e)
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Clearly Trump has never learned to negotiate. You start by giving up every lever you have, then beg your opponent to not whip you as hard.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
Sock fail, should be GOPe.
I embrace the healing power of "and".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (s8j++)
I wasn't aware there was much of a difference.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:27 PM (s8j++)
Sock fail, should be GOPe.
I embrace the healing power of "and".
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (s8j++)
I wasn't aware there was much of a difference.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 24, 2025 04:31 PM (VNX3d)
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Anyone who thinks that everything has not been arranged before any summit is either foolish or part of the Biden administration.
Of course everything will be discussed off the books and agreed before any big signing of a deal will be made. And of course some discussions are going on now.
Of course everything will be discussed off the books and agreed before any big signing of a deal will be made. And of course some discussions are going on now.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 04:31 PM (n7h9X)
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American consumers on the other hand won't really feel the pain until US retailers empty their inventories, because only then will they have to jack up their prices and I'm guessing that most of them won't do it until then in the hope that a deal can be struck before that happens, so I'm guessing that the pressure on Trump will become unbearable sometime in May or June.
I think he knows it and that's why he keeps sending increasingly desperate signals to China that he wants to make a deal, but the problem for him is that the Chinese also know it.
Let's see. If we stop buying from China, we lose out on cheap clothes and plastic crap. China loses out on eating.
I like our odds.
I think he knows it and that's why he keeps sending increasingly desperate signals to China that he wants to make a deal, but the problem for him is that the Chinese also know it.
Let's see. If we stop buying from China, we lose out on cheap clothes and plastic crap. China loses out on eating.
I like our odds.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (s8j++)
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Meanwhile over at Laura Loomer's X, she's reporting footage where Jerome Powell is talking #BLM and claiming it's his job to distribute resources with equity.
I think it's time for Powell to find somewhere else to work.
I think it's time for Powell to find somewhere else to work.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (gKWVE)
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Trump Net Approval:
Fox: -11
Economist/YouGov: -9
Rasmussen: 0
RMG Research: -3
Atlas Intel (Most accurate pollster): -6
For approval on Economic issues, the last positive poll for Trump was a +1 from YouGov back in early March at a +1. Right now his average is a minus 12.
Fox: -11
Economist/YouGov: -9
Rasmussen: 0
RMG Research: -3
Atlas Intel (Most accurate pollster): -6
For approval on Economic issues, the last positive poll for Trump was a +1 from YouGov back in early March at a +1. Right now his average is a minus 12.
Posted by: deadrody at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (2WemI)
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>>Asia is what it is. Its always been that way. Russia is Europe with a shit ton of Asia in it. Get used to this.
Now do Africa.
But, consider wearing a few condoms just to be safe.
Now do Africa.
But, consider wearing a few condoms just to be safe.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (F30Ty)
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Meanhile, a tanker full of LNG is headed to China was rerouted to Japan.
Evidently, China needs US petrochemicals for manufacturing purposes.
The article is on ZeroHedge. I prefer not to link.
So, the US is starving the Chinese not only of their markets but also of their raw inputs.
Evidently, China needs US petrochemicals for manufacturing purposes.
The article is on ZeroHedge. I prefer not to link.
So, the US is starving the Chinese not only of their markets but also of their raw inputs.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (tT6L1)
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*beep*
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at April 24, 2025 04:33 PM (/U5Yz)
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Saving face is a big deal in Asia. This should be fun.
I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
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Asia is what it is. Its always been that way. Russia is Europe with a shit ton of Asia in it. Get used to this. That said, Trump holds the Pimp Hand and Xi knows it.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (pZ64F)
Trump handled the East pretty will in the first term.
I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
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Asia is what it is. Its always been that way. Russia is Europe with a shit ton of Asia in it. Get used to this. That said, Trump holds the Pimp Hand and Xi knows it.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (pZ64F)
Trump handled the East pretty will in the first term.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 04:33 PM (n7h9X)
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I'm fed up with hearing about how we have to help the Chinese save face. I'm a proponent of publicly and vigorously spanking them until they learn their lesson.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:28 PM (s8j++)
I don't believe you're really the DNC.
Posted by: The DNC at April 24, 2025 04:28 PM (s8j++)
I don't believe you're really the DNC.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:33 PM (ExV1e)
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I would be fine without Chinese garbage they send us
Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 04:33 PM (ypFCm)
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Re Golberg interview. The story has already been written. They just need a few pull routes to fit their narrative.
Posted by: WIsRich at April 24, 2025 04:33 PM (J1d8J)
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Let's see. If we stop buying from China, we lose out on cheap clothes and plastic crap. China loses out on eating.
I like our odds.
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Precisely. Now add a war between Pakistan and India and things get really, really interesting.
I like our odds.
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Precisely. Now add a war between Pakistan and India and things get really, really interesting.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:34 PM (pZ64F)
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>> I would be fine without Chinese garbage they send us
Yep.
Now. If we're talking about the Ginger Chicken at my local Chinee Take-Out...
Yep.
Now. If we're talking about the Ginger Chicken at my local Chinee Take-Out...
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:34 PM (F30Ty)
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Let's see. If we stop buying from China, we lose out on cheap clothes and plastic crap. China loses out on eating.
I like our odds.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (s8j++)
Plenty of countries sell cheap shit. Or will buy Chinese and rebox it and ship it to us.
I like our odds.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (s8j++)
Plenty of countries sell cheap shit. Or will buy Chinese and rebox it and ship it to us.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (n7h9X)
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I think it's time for Powell to find somewhere else to work.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (gKWVE)
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Put him in charge of USAID.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (gKWVE)
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Put him in charge of USAID.
Posted by: ShainS at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (Rp7n7)
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Meanwhile over at Laura Loomer's X, she's reporting footage where Jerome Powell is talking #BLM and claiming it's his job to distribute resources with equity.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (gKWVE)
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Then distribute work with equity too.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (gKWVE)
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Then distribute work with equity too.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (YqDXo)
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>> American consumers on the other hand won't really feel the pain until US retailers empty their inventories, because only then will they have to jack up their prices
Or certain business onshore their production in the meantime. There are already some businesses e.g. in pharmaceuticals who have onshored production. Same for autos. Not every industry can do that but they are all searching how they can.
Point being any disruption will be temporary. I doubt the “pain” they are predicting will come through. That’s people with a stake in China saying that. Meanwhile they have a lot of idle factories and workers not getting paid. That’s why I am all in on 145% tariff.
Or certain business onshore their production in the meantime. There are already some businesses e.g. in pharmaceuticals who have onshored production. Same for autos. Not every industry can do that but they are all searching how they can.
Point being any disruption will be temporary. I doubt the “pain” they are predicting will come through. That’s people with a stake in China saying that. Meanwhile they have a lot of idle factories and workers not getting paid. That’s why I am all in on 145% tariff.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (wjLW2)
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37 I would be fine without Chinese garbage they send us
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We just got a Harbor Freight in our neighborhood. Haven't been in it yet.
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We just got a Harbor Freight in our neighborhood. Haven't been in it yet.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (pZ64F)
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Posted by: deadrody at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (2WemI)
Nobody cares as long as Democrat approval is at 25%, fag.
Literally, get new material.
Nobody cares as long as Democrat approval is at 25%, fag.
Literally, get new material.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (gKWVE)
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China won't negotiate so we are negotiating with ourselves. Is that called winning?
Posted by: Oglebay at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (2ap+5)
China wouldn't negotiate. They were gonna use their leverage to have the world unite behind their leadership to take it to the Americans. Then they spoke to the world and the world told them to fuck off. They'll negotiate. Maybe not today but they'll negotiate.
Posted by: Oglebay at April 24, 2025 04:30 PM (2ap+5)
China wouldn't negotiate. They were gonna use their leverage to have the world unite behind their leadership to take it to the Americans. Then they spoke to the world and the world told them to fuck off. They'll negotiate. Maybe not today but they'll negotiate.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:36 PM (ExV1e)
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>>We just got a Harbor Freight in our neighborhood. Haven't been in it yet.
No place better for buying Zip Ties.
Tools on the other hand...better off shopping 2nd hand.
No place better for buying Zip Ties.
Tools on the other hand...better off shopping 2nd hand.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:36 PM (F30Ty)
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Powell should be tossed down a set of fire stairs. If anyone is politicizing the Fed, it is him. There is zero reason not to lower rates at this point from
An economics standpoint. Zero.
An economics standpoint. Zero.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM (wjLW2)
50
BUT THE POLLS
Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM (sBjls)
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This is truly a national security issue.
Some of the crap, no. But if we rely on an -ahem- adversary for goods/parts necessary for our military or economy to function...
...Have we been lead by morons? (I know, they aren't morons, they were bought and paid for shills.)
Some of the crap, no. But if we rely on an -ahem- adversary for goods/parts necessary for our military or economy to function...
...Have we been lead by morons? (I know, they aren't morons, they were bought and paid for shills.)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM (N1tpc)
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Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:35 PM (gKWVE)
Nobody gives a shit about the opposition party's approval, Extra Chromosome Man. The GOP had low approval when it swept in 2010 and 2014. The Democratic Party wasn't all that well liked when it cleaned up in 2018 and 2020. People vote based on what they think of the president.
Nobody gives a shit about the opposition party's approval, Extra Chromosome Man. The GOP had low approval when it swept in 2010 and 2014. The Democratic Party wasn't all that well liked when it cleaned up in 2018 and 2020. People vote based on what they think of the president.
Posted by: deadrody at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM (2WemI)
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>>Powell should be tossed down a set of fire stairs. If anyone is politicizing the Fed, it is him. There is zero reason not to lower rates at this point from
An economics standpoint. Zero.
If you want to have the Recession, lowering rates is definitely a way to get there.
An economics standpoint. Zero.
If you want to have the Recession, lowering rates is definitely a way to get there.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:38 PM (F30Ty)
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For approval on Economic issues, the last positive poll for Trump was a +1 from YouGov back in early March at a +1. Right now his average is a minus 12.
Posted by: deadrody at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (2WemI)
Good thing he can't run again and midterms aren't for another 18 months.
Posted by: deadrody at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (2WemI)
Good thing he can't run again and midterms aren't for another 18 months.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:38 PM (ExV1e)
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China's goal has been to flood western democracies with cheap goods in order to put western workers out of a job, then use the welfare state to defeat the west that they cannot defeat militarily.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 04:38 PM (lTGtQ)
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Whose clothing business was shuttering?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
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>>"The person who tied the bell must untie it," he added.
What an odd statement.
So Trump has belled the cat to secure safety for the other mice. Very brave.
Now the cat is saying he has to un-bell it?
Fuck them.
(This is a reference to the "bell the cat" parable about mice afraid of a cat that is terrorizing them and they conclude the solution is simple - just tie a bell to the cat and they will have warning when it is near. Then one mouse says "but who is going to bell the cat?"
It is a story about how it takes someone who is brave and willing to take a risk, but they are mice.)
What an odd statement.
So Trump has belled the cat to secure safety for the other mice. Very brave.
Now the cat is saying he has to un-bell it?
Fuck them.
(This is a reference to the "bell the cat" parable about mice afraid of a cat that is terrorizing them and they conclude the solution is simple - just tie a bell to the cat and they will have warning when it is near. Then one mouse says "but who is going to bell the cat?"
It is a story about how it takes someone who is brave and willing to take a risk, but they are mice.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (06XVj)
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>> If you want to have the Recession, lowering rates is definitely a way to get there.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:38 PM (F30Ty)
Based on what exactly? What’s your thesis?
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:38 PM (F30Ty)
Based on what exactly? What’s your thesis?
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (wjLW2)
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48 >>We just got a Harbor Freight in our neighborhood. Haven't been in it yet.
No place better for buying Zip Ties.
Tools on the other hand...better off shopping 2nd hand.
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Zip Ties. Do they carry Quick Lime and tarps?
No place better for buying Zip Ties.
Tools on the other hand...better off shopping 2nd hand.
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Zip Ties. Do they carry Quick Lime and tarps?
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (pZ64F)
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I just liquidated my long positions. If the past is any precedent, you guys should jump in the markets tomorrow.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 04:40 PM (jc0TO)
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James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII has a new sting of yet another DC leech trying to fuck one of his operatives and running his mouth.
Titled, "DRAINING THE DEEP STATE". [ed. ... phrasing?]
DoD Branch Chief Calls President Trump “Illegitimate,” Vows to “Resist Him, Everything He Does,” Claims Pete Hegseth Is “Insanely Young” and Unfit to Lead: “Nobody I Know Should Be the Secretary of Defense”
“The same guy who tried to overthrow an election is just, like, truly setting us down a path of dictatorship.”
“I think they [Government] don't care who they hurt.”
Titled, "DRAINING THE DEEP STATE". [ed. ... phrasing?]
DoD Branch Chief Calls President Trump “Illegitimate,” Vows to “Resist Him, Everything He Does,” Claims Pete Hegseth Is “Insanely Young” and Unfit to Lead: “Nobody I Know Should Be the Secretary of Defense”
“The same guy who tried to overthrow an election is just, like, truly setting us down a path of dictatorship.”
“I think they [Government] don't care who they hurt.”
Posted by: gKWVE at April 24, 2025 04:40 PM (gKWVE)
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The boss of plane manufacturer Boeing revealed China had sent back aircraft it had ordered from the US as part of its retaliation to tariffs.
What they aren't mentioning here is that Malaysia, India, and even Russia have offered to buy those exact planes.
They are 737 Max planes that Boeing should be happy to sell to any country who wants them.
What they aren't mentioning here is that Malaysia, India, and even Russia have offered to buy those exact planes.
They are 737 Max planes that Boeing should be happy to sell to any country who wants them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:40 PM (6ydKt)
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>>Based on what exactly? What’s your thesis?
Go look at Rate Cuts and Timing for the last Economic Downturns stretching back to the Great Crash.
You will see something in common with all of them.
The Fed chasing indicators, slashing rates and prolonging the impact.
They have ONE TOOL and it NEVER works.
Go look at Rate Cuts and Timing for the last Economic Downturns stretching back to the Great Crash.
You will see something in common with all of them.
The Fed chasing indicators, slashing rates and prolonging the impact.
They have ONE TOOL and it NEVER works.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (F30Ty)
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are trolls allowed to talk back ?
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Women's March at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (0sNs1)
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>> I would be fine without Chinese garbage they send us
Yep.
Now. If we're talking about the Ginger Chicken at my local Chinee Take-Out...
Posted by: garrett
Switch to the Mary Ann Chicken.
>> I would be fine without Chinese garbage they send us
Yep.
Now. If we're talking about the Ginger Chicken at my local Chinee Take-Out...
Posted by: garrett
Switch to the Mary Ann Chicken.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (63Dwl)
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are trolls allowed to talk back ?
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (g47mK)
Their mouths are generally full
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (g47mK)
Their mouths are generally full
Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (sBjls)
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37 I would be fine without Chinese garbage they send us
Posted by: Skip
I have been screeching for YEARS about breaking the American addiction to disposable, cheap plastic crap made in China.
Does your infant really need that much crap?
Posted by: Skip
I have been screeching for YEARS about breaking the American addiction to disposable, cheap plastic crap made in China.
Does your infant really need that much crap?
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (W2Pud)
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(I said parable, I meant fable. mind stumble.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 04:42 PM (06XVj)
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Whose clothing business was shuttering?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
Some place called Shein (supposedly). All reporting out of China is suspect.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
Some place called Shein (supposedly). All reporting out of China is suspect.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:42 PM (ExV1e)
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are trolls allowed to talk back ?
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM
Only the ones we've licensed to be under their bridge.
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM
Only the ones we've licensed to be under their bridge.
Posted by: Big Penguin at April 24, 2025 04:42 PM (0sNs1)
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The BBC article seems to be all.... China is so very reasonable concerning trade and they are totally not involved at all in illegal fentynal exports to the US....and Trump is a big doodie head very bad man....
The BBC....
MMMMMMMMMM...
is this the same BBC that was funded by USAID to the tune of 3 billion dollars....?
So, all the BBC "journalists" have a new hot take... Orange Man Bad...is that it?
I'm skeptical. There. I said it.
The BBC article seems to be all.... China is so very reasonable concerning trade and they are totally not involved at all in illegal fentynal exports to the US....and Trump is a big doodie head very bad man....
The BBC....
MMMMMMMMMM...
is this the same BBC that was funded by USAID to the tune of 3 billion dollars....?
So, all the BBC "journalists" have a new hot take... Orange Man Bad...is that it?
I'm skeptical. There. I said it.
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at April 24, 2025 04:42 PM (0xY45)
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They are 737 Max planes that Boeing should be happy to sell to any country who wants them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Didn't Boeing have orders for something like 125 this month? Last month was 7-9 iirc. They'll have no problem selling them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Didn't Boeing have orders for something like 125 this month? Last month was 7-9 iirc. They'll have no problem selling them.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (vKNmo)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (CHHv1)
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Can any WWII history buffs help me with this difficult question (I don't know the answer):
What was the official/legal/political name of the nation of "Germany" between August 2, 1945 (when the previous Nazi government was officially dissolved at the Potsdam Conference) and May 23, 1949, when the " Federal Republic of Germany" (i.e. "West Grmany") was founded?
This was the period in which the Allies divided up "Germany" into four occupation zones -- French, British, US, Soviet. But the zones were not separate nations, merely four subdivisions of a larger nation. But what was that nation offfically called during those fur years?
Remember this is after the "Deutsches Reich" of the Nazi era, but before the " Federal Republic of Germany" of the Cold War era.
I see that at one pint the three western Aliled zoned (French, British, US) combined were referred to as the "Trizone," but that was an unofficial name, not the official name.
Anyone know? Help!
What was the official/legal/political name of the nation of "Germany" between August 2, 1945 (when the previous Nazi government was officially dissolved at the Potsdam Conference) and May 23, 1949, when the " Federal Republic of Germany" (i.e. "West Grmany") was founded?
This was the period in which the Allies divided up "Germany" into four occupation zones -- French, British, US, Soviet. But the zones were not separate nations, merely four subdivisions of a larger nation. But what was that nation offfically called during those fur years?
Remember this is after the "Deutsches Reich" of the Nazi era, but before the " Federal Republic of Germany" of the Cold War era.
I see that at one pint the three western Aliled zoned (French, British, US) combined were referred to as the "Trizone," but that was an unofficial name, not the official name.
Anyone know? Help!
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (pMi6S)
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They have ONE TOOL and it NEVER works.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM
Unlike, ahem, The Paolo.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM
Unlike, ahem, The Paolo.
Posted by: Paolo at April 24, 2025 04:45 PM (0sNs1)
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>>Posted by: nurse ratched at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM (W2Pud)
I heard some startling reports about the Rapeyness of Sea Otters last night!
Apparently, they enjoy raping all kinds of things. Not just the corpses of the River Otters they kill.
Fascinating stuff.
I heard some startling reports about the Rapeyness of Sea Otters last night!
Apparently, they enjoy raping all kinds of things. Not just the corpses of the River Otters they kill.
Fascinating stuff.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:45 PM (F30Ty)
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>>>"The person who tied the bell must untie it," he added.
Trump should make them fix their Chinglish in their manuals, too.
Trump should make them fix their Chinglish in their manuals, too.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 04:45 PM (i24o9)
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Whose clothing business was shuttering?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
Apparently, German Reich.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
Apparently, German Reich.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM (ExV1e)
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They are 737 Max planes that Boeing should be happy to sell to any country who wants them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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They have a massive back order and just filed with FAA to build 45 more per month.
The real threat is that China will build their own. Which they are trying to do as fast as possible
We waited to long to have trade ware with China. They will build their own engines, planes, EUV, .... it is too late to keep them down, so now we must crush them beneath our feet, which is more difficult and expensive. Good job Clinton, Bush, obama, biden autopen, Wall st. Goldman, and all you globalist assholes. You recreated Nazi Germany and gave them trillions to build their arsenal.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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They have a massive back order and just filed with FAA to build 45 more per month.
The real threat is that China will build their own. Which they are trying to do as fast as possible
We waited to long to have trade ware with China. They will build their own engines, planes, EUV, .... it is too late to keep them down, so now we must crush them beneath our feet, which is more difficult and expensive. Good job Clinton, Bush, obama, biden autopen, Wall st. Goldman, and all you globalist assholes. You recreated Nazi Germany and gave them trillions to build their arsenal.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM (06XVj)
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How about if imports threaten national security they’re not let in at all?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM (ncC2j)
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The pleasant lady falling out of her top at the top of the comments is certainly an imrovement over the smug mug of Hannity that was around for a couple of months….
Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM (PCK5/)
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM (ExV1e)
I should look at the input box before I hit enter. That was an answer to zombie.
I should look at the input box before I hit enter. That was an answer to zombie.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:47 PM (ExV1e)
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Whose clothing business was shuttering?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
Apparently, German Reich.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM
My market dried up overnight.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 04:39 PM (oXfCm)
Apparently, German Reich.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 04:46 PM
My market dried up overnight.
Posted by: Hugo Boss AG at April 24, 2025 04:47 PM (jc0TO)
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Powell should be tossed down a set of fire stairs. If anyone is politicizing the Fed, it is him. There is zero reason not to lower rates at this point from
An economics standpoint. Zero.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM
And Trump 1.0 appointed him based on recommendations from his advisors at the time. None of those advisors are in his inner circle this time.
An economics standpoint. Zero.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM
And Trump 1.0 appointed him based on recommendations from his advisors at the time. None of those advisors are in his inner circle this time.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 24, 2025 04:47 PM (e5NfL)
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I love when they demand suck.
Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at April 24, 2025 04:47 PM (oq5FV)
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I see that at one pint the three western Aliled zoned (French, British, US) combined were referred to as the "Trizone," but that was an unofficial name, not the official name.
Anyone know? Help!
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (pMi6S)
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Pretty sure it was just known as "Allied-occupied Germany" until the USSR withdrew from the Allied Control Commission or whatever it was called, at which time East/West Germany were established.
Anyone know? Help!
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (pMi6S)
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Pretty sure it was just known as "Allied-occupied Germany" until the USSR withdrew from the Allied Control Commission or whatever it was called, at which time East/West Germany were established.
Posted by: ballistic at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (oPt02)
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I've watched most of the video linked below, but from what I've seen so far, it is a MUST WATCH:
YT (What's Going On With Shipping channel)
"Are US Ports Empty and What Impact Does the Tariff Have on Global Shipping?"
LINK: https://tinyurl.com/y7ubkvaw
YT (What's Going On With Shipping channel)
"Are US Ports Empty and What Impact Does the Tariff Have on Global Shipping?"
LINK: https://tinyurl.com/y7ubkvaw
Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (rj6Yv)
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Does mayor Pete even have a function anymore??
Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)
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Didn't Boeing have orders for something like 125 this month? Last month was 7-9 iirc. They'll have no problem selling them.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (vKNmo)
I don't know their orders but I know that a lot of these countries with trade surpluses with the U.S. are going to try to put huge dents in our deficit by buying Boeing planes for their growing airline industries.
Boeing won't be hurting if they can get their quality control and other problems fixed.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (vKNmo)
I don't know their orders but I know that a lot of these countries with trade surpluses with the U.S. are going to try to put huge dents in our deficit by buying Boeing planes for their growing airline industries.
Boeing won't be hurting if they can get their quality control and other problems fixed.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:49 PM (6ydKt)
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Allied occupied Germany.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2025 04:49 PM (0Xu0D)
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is this the same BBC that was funded by USAID to the tune of 3 billion dollars....?
So, all the BBC "journalists" have a new hot take... Orange Man Bad...is that it?
I'm skeptical. There. I said it.
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin
The BBC is full of a lot of subsidized lying fucking Brits. Their country is circling the drain, they elect that faggot Starmer and the Labor MP list, and they complain that we (the US) are the problem.
Here, pull my other finger.
So, all the BBC "journalists" have a new hot take... Orange Man Bad...is that it?
I'm skeptical. There. I said it.
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin
The BBC is full of a lot of subsidized lying fucking Brits. Their country is circling the drain, they elect that faggot Starmer and the Labor MP list, and they complain that we (the US) are the problem.
Here, pull my other finger.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 24, 2025 04:49 PM (vcOmj)
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Anyone know? Help!
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (pMi6S)
-- -
According to Brave AI:
Between August 2, 1945, and May 23, 1949, the official name of the nation of Germany was the "German Reich," which was the legal and political designation for the country during this period. This period was characterized by the Allied occupation of Germany following the end of World War II, during which the country was divided into four occupation zones controlled by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and the Soviet Union. The term "German Reich" was used to denote the administrative entity under Allied control before the establishment of the Federal Republic of Germany, commonly known as West Germany, on May 23, 1949.
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:44 PM (pMi6S)
-- -
According to Brave AI:
Between August 2, 1945, and May 23, 1949, the official name of the nation of Germany was the "German Reich," which was the legal and political designation for the country during this period. This period was characterized by the Allied occupation of Germany following the end of World War II, during which the country was divided into four occupation zones controlled by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and the Soviet Union. The term "German Reich" was used to denote the administrative entity under Allied control before the establishment of the Federal Republic of Germany, commonly known as West Germany, on May 23, 1949.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:51 PM (6ydKt)
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"Pretty sure it was just known as "Allied-occupied Germany"
Posted by: ballistic
91 Allied occupied Germany.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Was that really its official, legal name? Sounds more like a coversational name. What was it in the German language?
Posted by: ballistic
91 Allied occupied Germany.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Was that really its official, legal name? Sounds more like a coversational name. What was it in the German language?
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:51 PM (pMi6S)
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I am fine with a smart military blog becoming a mostly politics blog and think that the niche threads, such as the food thread, which cbd does great work with, are here too, but why is what is ostensibly a smart military blog hosting a politics podcast with somebody name "the voice of clam juice", have we no limits to the miscegenation of subjects and thoughts and here?
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 04:51 PM (QbtCZ)
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"This is just a small example of what China has done to the USA, for years," he added, before repeating accusations that synthetic opioid fentanyl "continues to pour into our country from China, through Mexico and Canada, killing hundreds of thousands of our people".
The book "Blood Money" by Peter Schweizer covers this is some detail. The ongoing China war against the US has been on-going for a long time, and of course quite a few poli-tick-ians have been doing China's bidding.
The book "Blood Money" by Peter Schweizer covers this is some detail. The ongoing China war against the US has been on-going for a long time, and of course quite a few poli-tick-ians have been doing China's bidding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2025 04:52 PM (ynpvh)
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'I don't know their orders but I know that a lot of these countries with trade surpluses with the U.S. are going to try to put huge dents in our deficit by buying Boeing planes for their growing airline industries.
Boeing won't be hurting if they can get their quality control and other problems fixed.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:49
Yeah, that seems like a quick and easy way to get Trump off your ass, have your national airlines drop your orders for Airbus and sub in Boeing.
Boeing won't be hurting if they can get their quality control and other problems fixed.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:49
Yeah, that seems like a quick and easy way to get Trump off your ass, have your national airlines drop your orders for Airbus and sub in Boeing.
Posted by: Hugo Boss AG at April 24, 2025 04:52 PM (jc0TO)
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Say what you will about Trump but he is by far a master troll.
Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂
He’s too cruel some times.
Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂
He’s too cruel some times.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:53 PM (ncC2j)
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:54 PM (F30Ty)
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The boss of plane manufacturer Boeing revealed China had sent back aircraft it had ordered from the US as part of its retaliation to tariffs.
What they aren't mentioning here is that Malaysia, India, and even Russia have offered to buy those exact planes.
They are 737 Max planes that Boeing should be happy to sell to any country who wants them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Yeah, that's kind of a non-event, - "Oh, no, we'll be able to fulfill other people's orders faster!" - unless the aircraft were delivered, and then sent back and now Boeing has to check them for sabotage before they can be sold to someone else.
What they aren't mentioning here is that Malaysia, India, and even Russia have offered to buy those exact planes.
They are 737 Max planes that Boeing should be happy to sell to any country who wants them.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
Yeah, that's kind of a non-event, - "Oh, no, we'll be able to fulfill other people's orders faster!" - unless the aircraft were delivered, and then sent back and now Boeing has to check them for sabotage before they can be sold to someone else.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (hB7mE)
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According to Brave AI:
Between August 2, 1945, and May 23, 1949, the official name of the nation of Germany was the "German Reich," which was the legal and political designation for the country during this period. This period was characterized by the Allied occupation of Germany following the end of World War II, during which the country was divided into four occupation zones controlled by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and the Soviet Union. The term "German Reich" was used to denote the administrative entity under Allied control before the establishment of the Federal Republic of Germany, commonly known as West Germany, on May 23, 1949.
Posted by: SpeakingO
That's strange, because "German Reich" is the English for "Deutsches Reich" which was the Nazi name. But the Nazi goverement was dissolved in 1945, and retroactively deemed illegitimate for its entire existence. Did they really, then, keep the Nazi name, even though it had been explicitly erased frim history?
Between August 2, 1945, and May 23, 1949, the official name of the nation of Germany was the "German Reich," which was the legal and political designation for the country during this period. This period was characterized by the Allied occupation of Germany following the end of World War II, during which the country was divided into four occupation zones controlled by the United States, the United Kingdom, France, and the Soviet Union. The term "German Reich" was used to denote the administrative entity under Allied control before the establishment of the Federal Republic of Germany, commonly known as West Germany, on May 23, 1949.
Posted by: SpeakingO
That's strange, because "German Reich" is the English for "Deutsches Reich" which was the Nazi name. But the Nazi goverement was dissolved in 1945, and retroactively deemed illegitimate for its entire existence. Did they really, then, keep the Nazi name, even though it had been explicitly erased frim history?
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (pMi6S)
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The book "Blood Money" by Peter Schweizer covers this is some detail. The ongoing China war against the US has been on-going for a long time, and of course quite a few poli-tick-ians have been doing China's bidding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
“Treason doth never prosper: what ’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
― John Harrington
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
“Treason doth never prosper: what ’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
― John Harrington
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (vcOmj)
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You know how we’re in a recession and the world is ending because of the big bad orange man and his tarriffs ? Yeah about that…Google just posted blowout numbers for Q1. Weird.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (ncC2j)
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'I don't know their orders but I know that a lot of these countries with trade surpluses with the U.S. are going to try to put huge dents in our deficit by buying Boeing planes for their growing airline industries.
Boeing won't be hurting if they can get their quality control and other problems fixed.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:49
nah, is too hard to buy enough planes to matter, not that expensive, very long lead times.
it is going to be reshored mfgoos and evergy baby
Boeing won't be hurting if they can get their quality control and other problems fixed.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:49
nah, is too hard to buy enough planes to matter, not that expensive, very long lead times.
it is going to be reshored mfgoos and evergy baby
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 04:56 PM (QbtCZ)
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Say what you will about Trump but he is by far a master troll.
Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂
He’s too cruel some times.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:53 PM
That's some weapons grade trolling right there.
Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂
He’s too cruel some times.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:53 PM
That's some weapons grade trolling right there.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 24, 2025 04:56 PM (e5NfL)
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I’d say go 4-d chess troll and sell Trump ‘32 hats.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:58 PM (ncC2j)
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (IifOV)
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Say what you will about Trump but he is by far a master troll.
Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂
He’s too cruel some times.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:53 PM (ncC2j)
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You've got to laugh. This Presidency is the first one to not only rescue the country but to provide entertainment while doing it.
Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂
He’s too cruel some times.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 04:53 PM (ncC2j)
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You've got to laugh. This Presidency is the first one to not only rescue the country but to provide entertainment while doing it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (YqDXo)
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Yeah, that's kind of a non-event, - "Oh, no, we'll be able to fulfill other people's orders faster!" - unless the aircraft were delivered, and then sent back and now Boeing has to check them for sabotage before they can be sold to someone else.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (hB7mE)
They'll have go back in and change the livery and other country-specific things but yeah, it's no big loss to Boeing.
China has a lot of Boeing planes, though.
They'll still need parts which seems unlikely when they have 125% tariffs on American imports.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (hB7mE)
They'll have go back in and change the livery and other country-specific things but yeah, it's no big loss to Boeing.
China has a lot of Boeing planes, though.
They'll still need parts which seems unlikely when they have 125% tariffs on American imports.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (6ydKt)
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You've got to laugh. This Presidency is the first one to not only rescue the country but to provide entertainment while doing it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
I WANTED TO SEE HIM SPINNING PLATES TOO!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
I WANTED TO SEE HIM SPINNING PLATES TOO!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 05:00 PM (vKNmo)
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I’m surprised Chynah hasn’t stolen all the IP of a 737 and made its own yet. Probably under development.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:01 PM (ncC2j)
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Tonypete, did you ever get to meet Sponge?
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:01 PM (oXfCm)
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China has a lot of Boeing planes, though.
They'll still need parts which seems unlikely when they have 125% tariffs on American imports.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (6ydKt)
We make our own parts from high quality Chinese materials. You see. -- Winnie the Dictator
They'll still need parts which seems unlikely when they have 125% tariffs on American imports.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (6ydKt)
We make our own parts from high quality Chinese materials. You see. -- Winnie the Dictator
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 05:01 PM (ExV1e)
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That's strange, because "German Reich" is the English for "Deutsches Reich" which was the Nazi name. But the Nazi goverement was dissolved in 1945, and retroactively deemed illegitimate for its entire existence. Did they really, then, keep the Nazi name, even though it had been explicitly erased frim history?
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (pMi6S)
I'm pretty sure Reich just means Realm.
So it was just called the German Realm.
The term "Third Reich" is what gave the word the bad connotation, which just got worse over time.
That's strange, because "German Reich" is the English for "Deutsches Reich" which was the Nazi name. But the Nazi goverement was dissolved in 1945, and retroactively deemed illegitimate for its entire existence. Did they really, then, keep the Nazi name, even though it had been explicitly erased frim history?
Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (pMi6S)
I'm pretty sure Reich just means Realm.
So it was just called the German Realm.
The term "Third Reich" is what gave the word the bad connotation, which just got worse over time.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 05:01 PM (6ydKt)
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Meidas Touch- BlueSky: China just called out the Trump administration for blatantly lying about the existence of any ongoing negotiations between the U.S. and China.
Wonkette: Trump Hardball With China Just Trump Getting Kicked Hard In The Balls By China
Dude, they're not going to call you.
...in spite of rumors that tariffs could go down to 35 to 65 percent (which is still insane and economy-wrecking) his 145 percent tariff has still not come down. And the only “hardball” is Trump getting kicked in the balls, hard. By China!
China says "Fuck You!" to the insane Turd. Better act quick, despicable Turd, before you are ignominiously forced to "surrender" on the deck of a Chinese warship in Shanghai harbor.
They have the cards, he doesn't. A bully that gets hit back twice as hard. This shit show doesn't have the smarts to run a country, it's just putting on a play for them.
They are just stealing money with 'pump and dump' stock tactics. All of them should be in jail for doing this to us.
Wonkette: Trump Hardball With China Just Trump Getting Kicked Hard In The Balls By China
Dude, they're not going to call you.
...in spite of rumors that tariffs could go down to 35 to 65 percent (which is still insane and economy-wrecking) his 145 percent tariff has still not come down. And the only “hardball” is Trump getting kicked in the balls, hard. By China!
China says "Fuck You!" to the insane Turd. Better act quick, despicable Turd, before you are ignominiously forced to "surrender" on the deck of a Chinese warship in Shanghai harbor.
They have the cards, he doesn't. A bully that gets hit back twice as hard. This shit show doesn't have the smarts to run a country, it's just putting on a play for them.
They are just stealing money with 'pump and dump' stock tactics. All of them should be in jail for doing this to us.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 24, 2025 05:02 PM (JCZqz)
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Does mayor Pete even have a function anymore??
Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)
Sperm dispenser?
Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)
Sperm dispenser?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 24, 2025 05:02 PM (zIS8z)
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Deutschland. There is wikipedia entry fwiw.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2025 05:02 PM (0Xu0D)
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I’m surprised Chynah hasn’t stolen all the IP of a 737 and made its own yet. Probably under development.
the have but thye have not had the ability to do even ball point pens until recently, the big impediment to china having aerospace mfg is that it is hard to bribe planes to fly
the have but thye have not had the ability to do even ball point pens until recently, the big impediment to china having aerospace mfg is that it is hard to bribe planes to fly
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:03 PM (QbtCZ)
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I thought reich just means empire in German.
And also mean short communist Clinton administration labor secretary.
And also mean short communist Clinton administration labor secretary.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:03 PM (ncC2j)
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The book "Blood Money" by Peter Schweizer covers this is some detail. The ongoing China war against the US has been on-going for a long time, and of course quite a few poli-tick-ians have been doing China's bidding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
“Treason doth never prosper: what ’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
― John Harrington
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (vcOmj)
*side eyes*
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
“Treason doth never prosper: what ’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
― John Harrington
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at April 24, 2025 04:55 PM (vcOmj)
*side eyes*
Posted by: Mitch the Glitching Turtle at April 24, 2025 05:03 PM (Aqu9a)
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Does mayor Pete even have a function anymore??
Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)
Did he have a function before?
Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (PCK5/)
Did he have a function before?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 05:03 PM (ExV1e)
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>>They have the cards, he doesn't.
Everyday these idiots plumb new depths of stupid I didn't think was even possible.
Everyday these idiots plumb new depths of stupid I didn't think was even possible.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2025 05:03 PM (viF8m)
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The Donald is the Troll Master
Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 05:04 PM (ypFCm)
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The term "Third Reich" is what gave the word the bad connotation, which just got worse over time.
robert was pretty much the last hurrah
robert was pretty much the last hurrah
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:04 PM (QbtCZ)
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China has a lot of Boeing planes, though.
They'll still need parts which seems unlikely when they have 125% tariffs on American imports.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (6ydKt)
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Out: comparative advantage
In: comparative disadvantage
They'll still need parts which seems unlikely when they have 125% tariffs on American imports.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 04:59 PM (6ydKt)
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Out: comparative advantage
In: comparative disadvantage
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (ncC2j)
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@98/Its Go Time Donald: "Trump Organization is selling Trump ‘28 hats. And the msm is freaking out. Oh my god he’s gonna run again. Reeeeeeeeee. 😂😂"
https://tinyurl.com/yeys6rt5
https://tinyurl.com/yeys6rt5
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (O7YUW)
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The term "Third Reich" is what gave the word the bad connotation, which just got worse over time.
robert was pretty much the last hurrah
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:04 PM (QbtCZ)
______________
Now if he had two older siblings ...
robert was pretty much the last hurrah
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:04 PM (QbtCZ)
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Now if he had two older siblings ...
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (YqDXo)
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heard some startling reports about the Rapeyness of Sea Otters last night!
Apparently, they enjoy raping all kinds of things. Not just the corpses of the River Otters they kill.
Fascinating stuff.
Posted by: garrett
You’re so full of crap.
Sea otters have nothing to do with river otters. You’re just trying to get me fired up.
Neener!
Apparently, they enjoy raping all kinds of things. Not just the corpses of the River Otters they kill.
Fascinating stuff.
Posted by: garrett
You’re so full of crap.
Sea otters have nothing to do with river otters. You’re just trying to get me fired up.
Neener!
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (W2Pud)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (lTGtQ)
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It is truly adorable how the left has been acting about tariffs. They are absolutely certain about a few things:
1) There were no tariffs before Trump imposed them
2) He started a trade war against former trading partners out of the blue and for no reason
3) These are so disruptive and destructive that people are cutting spending, not traveling as much, and are all miserable and panicking
All of which is hilarious mythology.
1) There were no tariffs before Trump imposed them
2) He started a trade war against former trading partners out of the blue and for no reason
3) These are so disruptive and destructive that people are cutting spending, not traveling as much, and are all miserable and panicking
All of which is hilarious mythology.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:06 PM (2VST1)
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it is necessary to fix the china thing, however, it is far more fun to watch the retards in canada who are slinging smack and threats, I never knew how stupid the average canadian was.
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:06 PM (QbtCZ)
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Wow! Trump just got another vacancy on the Texas Federal Courts
Posted by: Jonah at April 24, 2025 05:06 PM (YCxFk)
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"I'll do anything for Trade, But I won't do That!"
Posted by: Harley Pennington at April 24, 2025 05:07 PM (YC9fE)
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From what I read about him , Scott Bessent is a very smart and successful man and has known Trump for many years , I guess he doesn't think Trump hates gays. I also appreciate the fact that Bessent is probably taking a pay cut or at least didn't have to sign up for this job because he's quite wealthy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2025 05:07 PM (42Vb+)
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76 They have ONE TOOL and it NEVER works.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM
Unlike, ahem, The Paolo.
Posted by: Paolo at April 24, 2025 04:45 PM (0sNs1)
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"Put it away please."
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 04:41 PM
Unlike, ahem, The Paolo.
Posted by: Paolo at April 24, 2025 04:45 PM (0sNs1)
----
"Put it away please."
Posted by: Zombie Peter Sellers - The Millionairess at April 24, 2025 05:07 PM (sPQoU)
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Trump just got another vacancy on the Texas Federal Courts
"Yeah we'll get to that in like, 2027. Maybe."
--The Senate
"Yeah we'll get to that in like, 2027. Maybe."
--The Senate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM (2VST1)
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It's so nice that the media is rooting ..... For China....
Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM (Vh9CX)
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Free Trade wasn't free.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM (0Xu0D)
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We import cheap plastic crap, and iphones. China imports food.
That should tell you everything.
china is not going to be doing much plastic mfg now, no propane
That should tell you everything.
china is not going to be doing much plastic mfg now, no propane
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM (QbtCZ)
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137. spot on. Senate is still on their two week holiday.
Posted by: Jonah at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (YCxFk)
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I never knew how stupid the average Canadian was.
Yeah they are ... not covering themselves with glory here. You can see how they've managed to give two different Trudeau's like 30 years of power. Its not by accident or trickery.
Yeah they are ... not covering themselves with glory here. You can see how they've managed to give two different Trudeau's like 30 years of power. Its not by accident or trickery.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)
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He also floated a scheme in which imports that don't threaten national security will be taxed at 35%, while those that do will be taxed at 100%.
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The good thing about all this is that it creates huge uncertainty as far as dealing with China goes. Maybe the tariffs will come off, maybe they won't, maybe Xi will do something stupid that gives Trump an excuse to escalate.
The longer this goes on, the more businesses will decide that there's too much risk in being in bed with China, and find somewhere else for their production. And the more that happens, the less opportunity the ChiComs have to corrupt us.
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The good thing about all this is that it creates huge uncertainty as far as dealing with China goes. Maybe the tariffs will come off, maybe they won't, maybe Xi will do something stupid that gives Trump an excuse to escalate.
The longer this goes on, the more businesses will decide that there's too much risk in being in bed with China, and find somewhere else for their production. And the more that happens, the less opportunity the ChiComs have to corrupt us.
Posted by: Methos at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (Dnobf)
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Tonypete, did you ever get to meet Sponge?
Posted by: Ben Had
No, not yet. I underestimated the time requirements of taking care of little grandson. The good news is, he may be coming home in the next few days.
(Grandson, not Sponge.
)
Posted by: Ben Had
No, not yet. I underestimated the time requirements of taking care of little grandson. The good news is, he may be coming home in the next few days.
(Grandson, not Sponge.
)Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (vKNmo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)
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No, not yet. I underestimated the time requirements of taking care of little grandson. The good news is, he may be coming home in the next few days.
(Grandson, not Sponge. )
Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (vKNmo)
Fantastic
(Grandson, not Sponge. )
Posted by: Tonypete at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (vKNmo)
Fantastic
Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (VE6XX)
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I pray to Allah that this time around Trump is getting sold advice on judicial picks. Trump 1.0 had some real stinkers. For example one of his picks, today ruled a second “Maryland Man” has to be un-deported.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (ncC2j)
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I never knew how stupid the average canadian was.
It is a worldwide conviction that only average Americans are stupid. In fairness to the Canadians, I'm sure they're just misinformed.
It is a worldwide conviction that only average Americans are stupid. In fairness to the Canadians, I'm sure they're just misinformed.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (ExV1e)
150
137 Trump just got another vacancy on the Texas Federal Courts
"Yeah we'll get to that in like, 2027. Maybe."
--The Senate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
No, no...we'd love to quickly get another Kavanaugh or Barrett into the system prior to the midterms. Score points with the rubes for our relection, while still holding up Trump's extreme regime.
"Yeah we'll get to that in like, 2027. Maybe."
--The Senate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
No, no...we'd love to quickly get another Kavanaugh or Barrett into the system prior to the midterms. Score points with the rubes for our relection, while still holding up Trump's extreme regime.
Posted by: Republican GOPe Leaders in the Senate at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (JCZqz)
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Solid not sold advice.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (ncC2j)
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Because of abundant cheap natural gas plastics is becoming an american thing.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (0Xu0D)
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:11 PM (QbtCZ)
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The Holy Roman Empire was the 1st Reich.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 24, 2025 05:12 PM (0Xu0D)
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Canadians have been fucked over by Liberals for 10 years. What will they do in a few days? Hand the liberals a majority because their leader hates Trump.
Yeah they’re kinda retarded.
Yeah they’re kinda retarded.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:12 PM (ncC2j)
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This all strategic. Xi is trying to hit companies that will harm Trump politically.
He is willing to take internal losses, which is the definition of war.
So far, Trump has held up well to the stock market disruptions (which I am sure China encouraged) and I don't think Boeing is going to make a dent. Neither is propane. He tried to hit tesla with the rare earths.
I am not sure what cards he has left.
He is willing to take internal losses, which is the definition of war.
So far, Trump has held up well to the stock market disruptions (which I am sure China encouraged) and I don't think Boeing is going to make a dent. Neither is propane. He tried to hit tesla with the rare earths.
I am not sure what cards he has left.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:12 PM (06XVj)
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Because of abundant cheap natural gas plastics is becoming an american thing.
Posted by: Boss
indeed
it is funny how that works
Posted by: Boss
indeed
it is funny how that works
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:12 PM (QbtCZ)
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LINK: https://tinyurl.com/y7ubkvaw
Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (rj6Yv)
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I watched the video and while I think there are some interesting points, I also believe CA is also killing the LA terminal through the way they're attacking business. CA working very hard to kill refinery capacity, driving up fuel costs. How does a port survive without truckers to haul stuff away? Ships being able to refuel at a reasonable cost also comes to mind.
In other words, there may be some useful data but, it's still a single data point which doesn't take into account any outside factors which might also have an impact.
LINK: https://tinyurl.com/y7ubkvaw
Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 04:48 PM (rj6Yv)
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I watched the video and while I think there are some interesting points, I also believe CA is also killing the LA terminal through the way they're attacking business. CA working very hard to kill refinery capacity, driving up fuel costs. How does a port survive without truckers to haul stuff away? Ships being able to refuel at a reasonable cost also comes to mind.
In other words, there may be some useful data but, it's still a single data point which doesn't take into account any outside factors which might also have an impact.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (tT6L1)
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The same judge who sent a Christian Grandma to jail last year for 2 years for praying outside a Planned Parenthood butchery just ruled that the Trump administration cannot require voters to be American citizens to vote.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (2VST1)
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No, no...we'd love to quickly get another Kavanaugh or Barrett into the system prior to the midterms. Score points with the rubes for our relection, while still holding up Trump's extreme regime.
Posted by: Republican GOPe Leaders in the Senate at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (JCZqz)
Actually, what we do is get a squish like Kavanaugh or Barrett, and then we fight over them. For example, I'll come out against them, and so the conservatives will think they're sticking it to me and the Democrats by backing them.
Works every time.
Posted by: Republican GOPe Leaders in the Senate at April 24, 2025 05:10 PM (JCZqz)
Actually, what we do is get a squish like Kavanaugh or Barrett, and then we fight over them. For example, I'll come out against them, and so the conservatives will think they're sticking it to me and the Democrats by backing them.
Works every time.
Posted by: The Turtle at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (/dDa4)
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Apparently, the Metcalf family has been SWAT'd three times.
But it is the Anthony family that is fleeing due to threats.
But it is the Anthony family that is fleeing due to threats.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (szPgS)
162
Vietnam says "open for business "
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:14 PM (oXfCm)
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I was reading some comments from super smart canadians that were saying they should send the hydro which they are not sending south to uros and oil over to the asians.
I have not need to splain why that funny
I have not need to splain why that funny
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:14 PM (QbtCZ)
164
Anyone else remember the media gushing over the North Korean broad....Kim's sister or whatever that was during the Olympics.
Her very presence at the games was clapping back at Trump they said.
The media praising literally anyone who is hostile to us is nothing new.
Her very presence at the games was clapping back at Trump they said.
The media praising literally anyone who is hostile to us is nothing new.
Posted by: Cmonman at April 24, 2025 05:15 PM (rSMVi)
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Vietnam says "open for business "
Posted by: Ben
the official release said "we business you long time joe"
Posted by: Ben
the official release said "we business you long time joe"
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:15 PM (QbtCZ)
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But it is the Anthony family that is fleeing due to threats.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (szPgS)
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It wouldn't surprise me if the same people who donated to Karmelo's defense got a tad bit upset because the money raised was used for something other than defending poor Karmelo.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (szPgS)
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It wouldn't surprise me if the same people who donated to Karmelo's defense got a tad bit upset because the money raised was used for something other than defending poor Karmelo.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:15 PM (tT6L1)
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Christopher another No Bordets to welcome a invasion
Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 05:15 PM (ypFCm)
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I was just reading how Trump is crashing China's plastics manufacturing. And, face it, a vast majority of their exports have some sort of plastic attached to it.
China uses US petroleum for the endeavor, and tankers are being re-routed in transit to other countries.
China uses US petroleum for the endeavor, and tankers are being re-routed in transit to other countries.
Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 05:16 PM (dIske)
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No, no...we'd love to quickly get another Kavanaugh or Barrett into the system prior to the midterms.
You'd think so but they have not even started hearings to appoint a single judge yet.
You'd think so but they have not even started hearings to appoint a single judge yet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:16 PM (2VST1)
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Let's see. If we stop buying from China, we lose out on cheap clothes and plastic crap. China loses out on eating.
I like our odds.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (s8j++)
I see people say this, but China doesn't import much food, and is even a net food exporter some years. Like America, they'll import different regional foods, but China's not going to starve without access to American soybeans or corn.
I like our odds.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 04:32 PM (s8j++)
I see people say this, but China doesn't import much food, and is even a net food exporter some years. Like America, they'll import different regional foods, but China's not going to starve without access to American soybeans or corn.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:16 PM (/dDa4)
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>>> 161 Apparently, the Metcalf family has been SWAT'd three times.
But it is the Anthony family that is fleeing due to threats.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (szPgS)
THREE times now?
Kash should just fire every single fcking current Eff.Bee.EYE agent and hire some fit Morons...
But it is the Anthony family that is fleeing due to threats.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (szPgS)
THREE times now?
Kash should just fire every single fcking current Eff.Bee.EYE agent and hire some fit Morons...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:16 PM (Vqx30)
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161 Apparently, the Metcalf family has been SWAT'd three times.
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They must pay for making little Anthony kill their son. Imagine what he is going through while tooling around in his new car and playing video games in the decked out basement of the luxury home they are forced to rent.
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They must pay for making little Anthony kill their son. Imagine what he is going through while tooling around in his new car and playing video games in the decked out basement of the luxury home they are forced to rent.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2025 05:17 PM (Dv3i1)
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It wouldn't surprise me if the same people who donated to Karmelo's defense got a tad bit upset because the money raised was used for something other than defending poor Karmelo.
Posted by:
nah its a scam , they are probably getting some high interest financing from the esquire baby shakr
Posted by:
nah its a scam , they are probably getting some high interest financing from the esquire baby shakr
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:17 PM (QbtCZ)
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plastic is made from oil????
Posted by: Liberal in a "Stop Big Oil" shirt scrolling on their iphone at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (jGJov)
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I would love to see the Canadians send their oil to asia. Getting a pipeline over the highest of the Rocky Mountains is the easy part; getting BC to agree to it is the tough part.
The reason Canada sends oil to the US is because they can't send it west and their voters won't allow them to pipe it east.
The reason Canada sends oil to the US is because they can't send it west and their voters won't allow them to pipe it east.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (lTGtQ)
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Disinterested, that was when Chyna could buy Ukranian wheat.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (oXfCm)
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Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 24, 2025 05:02 PM (JCZqz)
How can you live in a country you hate so much that you constantly root against it, especially when the other party controls the White House?
I didn't like Biden in the least, thought he was a demented crook long before it was fashionable, but I surely didn't celebrate when he decided to leave Afghanistan the way he did.
I wasn't rooting for our people to lose, to look like cowards in retreat or for soldiers to die.
The wackos on DU are pulling for the CCP just because they hate Trump and that Trump swept the American left from power.
Their totally nihilistic world-view craves nothing but power while draping themselves in cynical humanism.
How can you live in a country you hate so much that you constantly root against it, especially when the other party controls the White House?
I didn't like Biden in the least, thought he was a demented crook long before it was fashionable, but I surely didn't celebrate when he decided to leave Afghanistan the way he did.
I wasn't rooting for our people to lose, to look like cowards in retreat or for soldiers to die.
The wackos on DU are pulling for the CCP just because they hate Trump and that Trump swept the American left from power.
Their totally nihilistic world-view craves nothing but power while draping themselves in cynical humanism.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (6ydKt)
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it is interesting that it is easier for us to quit buying things than it is for the chicom to quit selling things.
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (QbtCZ)
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There is some good news from the Hawaiian judge ruling…
Part of the EO Trump signed forced states to only count ballots received by Election Day. That part was allowed to continue by the judge. (How nice of her). And the other part allowed was giving doge access to voter databases to find non citizens registered to vote.
Part of the EO Trump signed forced states to only count ballots received by Election Day. That part was allowed to continue by the judge. (How nice of her). And the other part allowed was giving doge access to voter databases to find non citizens registered to vote.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (ncC2j)
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Yeah they are ... not covering themselves with glory here. You can see how they've managed to give two different Trudeau's like 30 years of power. Its not by accident or trickery.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)
Mostly the filthy Easterner swine.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)
Mostly the filthy Easterner swine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 05:19 PM (8zz6B)
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I think the hate against the Metcalfs is real.
The Anthony's are just playing the victim card narrative. As they flee from their 'walled and gated community' for safety.
The Anthony's are just playing the victim card narrative. As they flee from their 'walled and gated community' for safety.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:19 PM (szPgS)
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139 Reich = Empire
Holy Roman Empire
German Empire
Third Reich
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM
Robert Reich
Holy Roman Empire
German Empire
Third Reich
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM
Robert Reich
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (IifOV)
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Kash should just fire every single fcking current Eff.Bee.EYE agent and hire some fit Morons...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:16 PM (Vqx30)
Why do they need to be fit? FBI agents aren't chasing people down. I'm old and fat and I can walk in, say "I'm FBI and I'm taking over this investigation", walk through the crime scene, and announce - in the presence of two dozen dead jihadis - that we can rule out terrorism as the cause of the issue.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:16 PM (Vqx30)
Why do they need to be fit? FBI agents aren't chasing people down. I'm old and fat and I can walk in, say "I'm FBI and I'm taking over this investigation", walk through the crime scene, and announce - in the presence of two dozen dead jihadis - that we can rule out terrorism as the cause of the issue.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (ExV1e)
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Mostly the filthy Easterner swine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
in would note here that I said average canadian, and as you doubtless are aware I consider you better than average so
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
in would note here that I said average canadian, and as you doubtless are aware I consider you better than average so
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (QbtCZ)
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Powell should be tossed down a set of fire stairs. If anyone is politicizing the Fed, it is him. There is zero reason not to lower rates at this point from
An economics standpoint. Zero.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM
Lowering rates isn't a good thing. It allows you to cheat economic laws by increasing the debt bubble, but that's the last thing we should be accepting at this point. You need higher interest rates to make deter "investments" from being made in stupid shit, like individual consumption (credit cards, student loans, home loans, etc) or things no one needs (beenie babies, solar panels, carbon sequestering, etc).
An economics standpoint. Zero.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 24, 2025 04:37 PM
Lowering rates isn't a good thing. It allows you to cheat economic laws by increasing the debt bubble, but that's the last thing we should be accepting at this point. You need higher interest rates to make deter "investments" from being made in stupid shit, like individual consumption (credit cards, student loans, home loans, etc) or things no one needs (beenie babies, solar panels, carbon sequestering, etc).
Posted by: Methos at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (Dnobf)
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111 I’m surprised Chynah hasn’t stolen all the IP of a 737 and made its own yet. Probably under development.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:01 PM (ncC2j)
They have. The Cormac C919. Airbus (A) Boeing (B) and now Cormac (C). Clever, right?
Anyways, it took them like 15 years to build, and I don't think any are flying outside of China.
I have no idea how well it will hold up, but the engines are made by CFM (American / French), and the technology to make the rest of the plane shouldn't be that hard to copy, so it's probably fine.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:01 PM (ncC2j)
They have. The Cormac C919. Airbus (A) Boeing (B) and now Cormac (C). Clever, right?
Anyways, it took them like 15 years to build, and I don't think any are flying outside of China.
I have no idea how well it will hold up, but the engines are made by CFM (American / French), and the technology to make the rest of the plane shouldn't be that hard to copy, so it's probably fine.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (uCjyK)
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Correction, that is Thousand Millimeter Reich.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:21 PM (szPgS)
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And of course cheating now means paying more for it later.
Posted by: Methos at April 24, 2025 05:21 PM (Dnobf)
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Why do they need to be fit?
so they can march in those 'Patriot Front' getups or whatever that was
so they can march in those 'Patriot Front' getups or whatever that was
Posted by: brak at April 24, 2025 05:21 PM (jGJov)
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And of course cheating now means paying more for it later.
Posted by: Methos
are we discussing marriage or tariffs
Posted by: Methos
are we discussing marriage or tariffs
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:21 PM (QbtCZ)
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Wow! Trump just got another vacancy on the Texas Federal Courts
Posted by: Jonah at April 24, 2025 05:06 PM (YCxFk
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The heck with qualifications or temperament. Dems don't. Get a right winger appointed.
Posted by: Jonah at April 24, 2025 05:06 PM (YCxFk
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The heck with qualifications or temperament. Dems don't. Get a right winger appointed.
Posted by: WIsRich at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (J1d8J)
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I used to have a different nic, I want to say how much I appreciate you.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (oXfCm)
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China's not going to starve without access to American soybeans or corn.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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I was reading recently how our cattle population is half what it was just a couple decades ago.
Why the fuck are we exporting grains and not high value beef?
Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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I was reading recently how our cattle population is half what it was just a couple decades ago.
Why the fuck are we exporting grains and not high value beef?
Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (06XVj)
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I like the part where China tried telling the world that they better not make a deal with Trump.
And the world is lining up to make a deal with Trump.
But the biggest tell was how they were all talking that gay-ass shit like "respect" and other stupid stuff that--if we had a pussy like Biden--would have shamed us into backing down.
Instead, Trump renamed it General Don's Chicken and kicked Xinhau out of the WH until they agreed with the name change.
And the world is lining up to make a deal with Trump.
But the biggest tell was how they were all talking that gay-ass shit like "respect" and other stupid stuff that--if we had a pussy like Biden--would have shamed us into backing down.
Instead, Trump renamed it General Don's Chicken and kicked Xinhau out of the WH until they agreed with the name change.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (mmNvG)
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I have no idea how well it will hold up, but the engines are made by CFM (American / French), and the technology to make the rest of the plane shouldn't be that hard to copy, so it's probably fine.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Interestingly, my understanding is that the wings/flaps/front flaps are the hard part to get right.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Interestingly, my understanding is that the wings/flaps/front flaps are the hard part to get right.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
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How did the skipper stay fat on the Island with so few carbs?
How did the skipper stay fat on the Island with so few carbs?
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:23 PM (IifOV)
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Interestingly, my understanding is that the wings/flaps/front flaps are the hard part to get right.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
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Engine comes apart mid flight, one still has a chance. The wing? Not so much.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
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Engine comes apart mid flight, one still has a chance. The wing? Not so much.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:23 PM (tT6L1)
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Pretty good article about the corporation called Internews:
Internews says it's here to "support press freedom." But as one media analyst put it, "It's not about giving journalists a voice--it's about choosing which voices get heard."
Nearly $473 million—yes, that’s nearly half a billion—has flowed to Internews from USAID and the U.S. State Department over the past 2 decades.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/ (delete space)
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Internews says it's here to "support press freedom." But as one media analyst put it, "It's not about giving journalists a voice--it's about choosing which voices get heard."
Nearly $473 million—yes, that’s nearly half a billion—has flowed to Internews from USAID and the U.S. State Department over the past 2 decades.
https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/ (delete space)
1915366122657927194
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:24 PM (2VST1)
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How did the skipper stay fat on the Island with so few carbs?
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:23 PM (IifOV)
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Well, according to the food Nazis who ruined my movie going experience...coconut oil is bad for you and now the popcorn tastes like excrement.
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:23 PM (IifOV)
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Well, according to the food Nazis who ruined my movie going experience...coconut oil is bad for you and now the popcorn tastes like excrement.
Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 05:24 PM (dIske)
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I used to have a different nic, I want to say how much I appreciate you.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (oXfCm)
Stop, you'll make me blush.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (oXfCm)
Stop, you'll make me blush.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 05:24 PM (ExV1e)
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I was reading recently how our cattle population is half what it was just a couple decades ago.
Why the fuck are we exporting grains and not high value beef?
Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (06XVj)
Likely due to other countries food regulations.
Europe in particular likes to use their food regulations to keep American products out and protect their own farmers. Which is fair, it makes sense.
And, also, their food is higher quality and less factory farmed in general, so I kind of get it on that level too.
But that would be my guess as to why we don't have massive beef exports to 1st world countries.
Why the fuck are we exporting grains and not high value beef?
Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (06XVj)
Likely due to other countries food regulations.
Europe in particular likes to use their food regulations to keep American products out and protect their own farmers. Which is fair, it makes sense.
And, also, their food is higher quality and less factory farmed in general, so I kind of get it on that level too.
But that would be my guess as to why we don't have massive beef exports to 1st world countries.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (uCjyK)
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No id to prove you are citizen
Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (P4Pk9)
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InterNews because InterFax was already taken.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (szPgS)
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plastic is made from oil????
Posted by: Liberal in a "Stop Big Oil" shirt scrolling on their iphone at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (jGJov)
Well, gas mostly. Every time you fart, andother sea turtle gets strangled.
Posted by: Liberal in a "Stop Big Oil" shirt scrolling on their iphone at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (jGJov)
Well, gas mostly. Every time you fart, andother sea turtle gets strangled.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (8zz6B)
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And fuck China
Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (P4Pk9)
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I have no idea how well it will hold up, but the engines are made by CFM (American / French), and the technology to make the rest of the plane shouldn't be that hard to copy, so it's probably fine.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
On the plus side, when they crash they will bury themselves"!
(On an early high speed rail train crashes the local authorities dug a big hole and just buried it - people and all - to try to hide the accident.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
On the plus side, when they crash they will bury themselves"!
(On an early high speed rail train crashes the local authorities dug a big hole and just buried it - people and all - to try to hide the accident.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (06XVj)
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If anybody wants to see examples of quality Chinese construction techniques, go to YouTube and search "tofu dreg" and see all of the glorious examples of their work.
Thailand is kinda pissed at them.
The only building that collapsed there in the earthquake last month was being built by a Chinese state-owned construction company.
https://youtu.be/YXLFQ0tJXU4
Thailand is kinda pissed at them.
The only building that collapsed there in the earthquake last month was being built by a Chinese state-owned construction company.
https://youtu.be/YXLFQ0tJXU4
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (6ydKt)
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But the biggest tell was how they were all talking that gay-ass shit like "respect"
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So ... no Chinese driving jokes?
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So ... no Chinese driving jokes?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:26 PM (YqDXo)
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Europe in particular likes to use their food regulations to keep American products out and protect their own farmers. Which is fair, it makes sense.
And, also, their food is higher quality and less factory farmed in general, so I kind of get it on that level too.
Mad cow disease has entered Chat.
And, also, their food is higher quality and less factory farmed in general, so I kind of get it on that level too.
Mad cow disease has entered Chat.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2025 05:26 PM (szPgS)
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>>Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Because many markets effectively prohibit importing US beef. Australia being one of them.
Thus we got Trump and tariffs.
Because many markets effectively prohibit importing US beef. Australia being one of them.
Thus we got Trump and tariffs.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2025 05:26 PM (viF8m)
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>>Posted by: nurse ratched at April 24, 2025 05:05 PM (W2Pud)
I couldn't help but think of you while listening to the radio...it was a show called Armstrong and Getty?
It was a report about a Sea Otter that mad his home in a River System and killed and raped hundreds of River Otters. Apparently, it's a common thing.
I tried to warn you. I really did.
I couldn't help but think of you while listening to the radio...it was a show called Armstrong and Getty?
It was a report about a Sea Otter that mad his home in a River System and killed and raped hundreds of River Otters. Apparently, it's a common thing.
I tried to warn you. I really did.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 05:26 PM (F30Ty)
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The only building that collapsed there in the earthquake last month was being built by a Chinese state-owned construction company.
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You get what you pay for.
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You get what you pay for.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (Dv3i1)
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Interestingly, my understanding is that the wings/flaps/front flaps are the hard part to get right.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
I'm not an airplane engineer, but I don't think so. I don't think the wings or flaps have changed significantly in the, what, 60 years the 737 has been flying?
Jet engines are hard.
China was importing Russian engines for a while for their own fighter jets because China couldn't build engines that work.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
I'm not an airplane engineer, but I don't think so. I don't think the wings or flaps have changed significantly in the, what, 60 years the 737 has been flying?
Jet engines are hard.
China was importing Russian engines for a while for their own fighter jets because China couldn't build engines that work.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (uCjyK)
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The Hawaiian judge ruled that only states and congress could impose a citizenship check. Be size congress and states are who make over laws. OK.
But didnt some states try that before? And other Hawaiian judges said immigration is a federal issue and states can’t do that.
It’s a neat trick they use.
But didnt some states try that before? And other Hawaiian judges said immigration is a federal issue and states can’t do that.
It’s a neat trick they use.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (ncC2j)
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>>> 193
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I was reading recently how our cattle population is half what it was just a couple decades ago.
Why the fuck are we exporting grains and not high value beef?
Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (06XVj)
I don't know if it's half, but the US "herd" is the smallest it's been since almost 70 years ago, when the *human* population was much smaller. There's a fckload more regulation now than back then, too...
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I was reading recently how our cattle population is half what it was just a couple decades ago.
Why the fuck are we exporting grains and not high value beef?
Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (06XVj)
I don't know if it's half, but the US "herd" is the smallest it's been since almost 70 years ago, when the *human* population was much smaller. There's a fckload more regulation now than back then, too...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (Vqx30)
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(On an early high speed rail train crashes the local authorities dug a big hole and just buried it - people and all - to try to hide the accident.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (06XVj)
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California will never have the problem. Because California will never actually build functioning HIGH. SPEED. RAIL.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (06XVj)
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California will never have the problem. Because California will never actually build functioning HIGH. SPEED. RAIL.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (YqDXo)
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Reich = Empire
Holy Roman Empire
German Empire
Third Reich
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM
Robert Reich
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (IifOV)
Ah, the Thousand Milimeter Reich.
Holy Roman Empire
German Empire
Third Reich
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 05:08 PM
Robert Reich
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:20 PM (IifOV)
Ah, the Thousand Milimeter Reich.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (/dDa4)
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The rest of the world uses tariffs willy nilly, their Propaganda Ministry's don't care
Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 05:28 PM (ypFCm)
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Like the children of Lake Woebegone, all Morons are above average.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 05:29 PM (jc0TO)
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I am not saying we should but if we nukd france that would introduce enough uncertainty into thngs to hurry negotiations with the other countries
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:29 PM (QbtCZ)
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Rod Serling could have done one hellof a TW Zone episode on the high speed rail to nowhere
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (oXfCm)
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I don't know if it's half, but the US "herd" is the smallest it's been since almost 70 years ago, when the *human* population was much smaller. There's a fckload more regulation now than back then, too...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (Vqx30)
Relatively speaking it is 1/2 when accounting for human population. 70 years ago the US human population was 1/2 what it is today.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM (Vqx30)
Relatively speaking it is 1/2 when accounting for human population. 70 years ago the US human population was 1/2 what it is today.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (ncC2j)
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Interestingly, my understanding is that the wings/flaps/front flaps are the hard part to get right.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
True, dat.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:22 PM (lTGtQ)
True, dat.
Posted by: Gender Reassignment Surgeon at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (8zz6B)
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How does a port survive without truckers to haul stuff away? Ships being able to refuel at a reasonable cost also comes to mind.
In other words, there may be some useful data but, it's still a single data point which doesn't take into account any outside factors which might also have an impact.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (tT6L1)
The most important point in the video for me was that American consumers won't feel a significant impact from the tariff confrontation until May (probably mid-May) and June. I would guess that Xi isn't going to make any major moves on the until the American consumers start their moaning and groaning. Unless, of course, starving Chinese consumers take matters into their own hands. Getting that tax cut bill resolved by July 4th will be on the front burner.
In other words, there may be some useful data but, it's still a single data point which doesn't take into account any outside factors which might also have an impact.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:13 PM (tT6L1)
The most important point in the video for me was that American consumers won't feel a significant impact from the tariff confrontation until May (probably mid-May) and June. I would guess that Xi isn't going to make any major moves on the until the American consumers start their moaning and groaning. Unless, of course, starving Chinese consumers take matters into their own hands. Getting that tax cut bill resolved by July 4th will be on the front burner.
Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (rj6Yv)
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Rod Serling could have done one hellof a TW Zone episode on the high speed rail to nowhere
Posted by: Ben
it would have to start somewhere
Posted by: Ben
it would have to start somewhere
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (QbtCZ)
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On the plus side, when they crash they will bury themselves"!
(On an early high speed rail train crashes the local authorities dug a big hole and just buried it - people and all - to try to hide the accident.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (06XVj)
Heh. Who knows?
It will be interesting though when a Cormac inevitably crashes. Especially if they end up making their own engines.
Due to international agreements, the plane manufacturer and engine manufacturers get to investigate the crash as well as the country in which the plane crashed.
So the French (airbus) and Americans (Boeing) are involved in pretty much every investigation around the world. Which is good, its one of the few areas our governments are competent in.
If a Chinese plane crashes in Burma and it's flying with Chinese engines... well... can anyone really trust whatever their version of the NTSB is?
(On an early high speed rail train crashes the local authorities dug a big hole and just buried it - people and all - to try to hide the accident.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:25 PM (06XVj)
Heh. Who knows?
It will be interesting though when a Cormac inevitably crashes. Especially if they end up making their own engines.
Due to international agreements, the plane manufacturer and engine manufacturers get to investigate the crash as well as the country in which the plane crashed.
So the French (airbus) and Americans (Boeing) are involved in pretty much every investigation around the world. Which is good, its one of the few areas our governments are competent in.
If a Chinese plane crashes in Burma and it's flying with Chinese engines... well... can anyone really trust whatever their version of the NTSB is?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:32 PM (uCjyK)
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>> I am not saying we should but if we nukd france that would introduce enough uncertainty into thngs to hurry negotiations with the other countries
Your terms are acceptable.
Your terms are acceptable.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:32 PM (/dDa4)
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DU is rooting for China?
[slow smile spread across my face]
Excellent.
There's just not enough 80/20 issues they're on the wrong side of but damned if Trump isn't finding more for them.
[slow smile spread across my face]
Excellent.
There's just not enough 80/20 issues they're on the wrong side of but damned if Trump isn't finding more for them.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2025 05:33 PM (mmNvG)
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I'm not an airplane engineer, but I don't think so. I don't think the wings or flaps have changed significantly in the, what, 60 years the 737 has been flying?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM
I think they have, a lot. The wing geometry and construction techniques was some of the IP that China stole from Boeing (?) when China got a partial manufacturing license.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:27 PM
I think they have, a lot. The wing geometry and construction techniques was some of the IP that China stole from Boeing (?) when China got a partial manufacturing license.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 05:33 PM (jc0TO)
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Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Yeah its kind of like how you never see American cars anywhere but America because there's not just gigantic tariffs on cars everywhere else, but there are huge fees every year to drive an American car. Like thousands a month in the EU.
The Hawaiian judge ruled that only states and congress could impose a citizenship check. Be size congress and states are who make over laws. OK.
Its literally already federal law that non citizens cannot vote, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 covers that. She just doesn't want Trump to enforce that law.
Yeah its kind of like how you never see American cars anywhere but America because there's not just gigantic tariffs on cars everywhere else, but there are huge fees every year to drive an American car. Like thousands a month in the EU.
The Hawaiian judge ruled that only states and congress could impose a citizenship check. Be size congress and states are who make over laws. OK.
Its literally already federal law that non citizens cannot vote, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 covers that. She just doesn't want Trump to enforce that law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 05:33 PM (2VST1)
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Australia sells their tough-as-shoeleather shitty ass crap beef all over the world. What the hell is wrong with our economy that we can not do that?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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I think there was something posted about that recently.
Our "food" has too many hormones and chemicals and the other countries won't allow their citizens to be exposed to it.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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I think there was something posted about that recently.
Our "food" has too many hormones and chemicals and the other countries won't allow their citizens to be exposed to it.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 24, 2025 05:34 PM (3mLe2)
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Noodely doodely, neighbors
Posted by: income tax, sales tax, property tax, inheritance tax, capital gains tax, excise tax, at April 24, 2025 05:35 PM (pIfcn)
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You guys wanna know how bad Trump is? Nasdaq today is at the same level it was in - wait for it - September 2024.
The horror!
The horror!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 24, 2025 05:35 PM (ncC2j)
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Our "food" has too many hormones and chemicals and the other countries won't allow their citizens to be exposed to it.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 24, 2025 05:34 PM
I think administration considers that a trade barrier also.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 24, 2025 05:34 PM
I think administration considers that a trade barrier also.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 05:35 PM (jc0TO)
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The most important point in the video for me was that American consumers won't feel a significant impact from the tariff confrontation until May (probably mid-May) and June. I would guess that Xi isn't going to make any major moves on the until the American consumers start their moaning and groaning. Unless, of course, starving Chinese consumers take matters into their own hands. Getting that tax cut bill resolved by July 4th will be on the front burner.
Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (rj6Yv)
Yeah, we're barely into this thing. Neither side has felt much pain. I don't think Americans (including some of the people here) realize just how much influence China has, or how much they can cripple our economy if they really want to.
Realistically, China is the world's largest economy. When adjusted for the actual value (PPP), they're on top. Our GDP counts stuff like welfare payments and handouts to NGOs.
They have the world's largest industrial base, by a large margin. Damn near everything is made there, or depends on something made there. Obviously, America has a lot of leverage, too, but China's not going to starve without our soybeans.
Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (rj6Yv)
Yeah, we're barely into this thing. Neither side has felt much pain. I don't think Americans (including some of the people here) realize just how much influence China has, or how much they can cripple our economy if they really want to.
Realistically, China is the world's largest economy. When adjusted for the actual value (PPP), they're on top. Our GDP counts stuff like welfare payments and handouts to NGOs.
They have the world's largest industrial base, by a large margin. Damn near everything is made there, or depends on something made there. Obviously, America has a lot of leverage, too, but China's not going to starve without our soybeans.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:36 PM (/dDa4)
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I think they have, a lot. The wing geometry and construction techniques was some of the IP that China stole from Boeing (?) when China got a partial manufacturing license.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 05:33 PM (jc0TO)
On 737's? Or 787's?
I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure the airframe on the 737 is pretty much the same as it was when the plane was introduced in the 1960's. I believe the Max is using more composites in the airframe, but mostly otherwise unchanged.
The 787 was built ground up around composites and they did a lot of cool things with the wings.
777X is somewhere in between.
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 05:33 PM (jc0TO)
On 737's? Or 787's?
I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure the airframe on the 737 is pretty much the same as it was when the plane was introduced in the 1960's. I believe the Max is using more composites in the airframe, but mostly otherwise unchanged.
The 787 was built ground up around composites and they did a lot of cool things with the wings.
777X is somewhere in between.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 05:36 PM (uCjyK)
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Disinterested, that was when Chyna could buy Ukranian wheat.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (oXfCm)
Ukraine's not even in the top 10. Brazil became China's largest ag partner back in 2018 or so, during the first trade war. And I don't think Brazil is going to slit its own throat by restricting imports to its biggest customer.
What's more, there's a lot of excess agricultural capacity out there. Plenty of countries that will be happy to sell to China.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (oXfCm)
Ukraine's not even in the top 10. Brazil became China's largest ag partner back in 2018 or so, during the first trade war. And I don't think Brazil is going to slit its own throat by restricting imports to its biggest customer.
What's more, there's a lot of excess agricultural capacity out there. Plenty of countries that will be happy to sell to China.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:37 PM (/dDa4)
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Rod Serling could have done one hellof a TW Zone episode on the high speed rail to nowhere
Posted by: Ben
it would have to start somewhere
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (QbtCZ)
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Chowchilla. Now we just have to figure out where Chowchilla is.
Posted by: Ben
it would have to start somewhere
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:30 PM (QbtCZ)
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Chowchilla. Now we just have to figure out where Chowchilla is.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:38 PM (YqDXo)
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>>> 237 Disinterested, that was when Chyna could buy Ukranian wheat.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (oXfCm)
Ukraine's not even in the top 10. Brazil became China's largest ag partner back in 2018 or so, during the first trade war. And I don't think Brazil is going to slit its own throat by restricting imports to its biggest customer.
What's more, there's a lot of excess agricultural capacity out there. Plenty of countries that will be happy to sell to China.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:37 PM (/dDa4)
Really? How convenient for the derp state to have Lula instead of Bolsonaro.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (oXfCm)
Ukraine's not even in the top 10. Brazil became China's largest ag partner back in 2018 or so, during the first trade war. And I don't think Brazil is going to slit its own throat by restricting imports to its biggest customer.
What's more, there's a lot of excess agricultural capacity out there. Plenty of countries that will be happy to sell to China.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 05:37 PM (/dDa4)
Really? How convenient for the derp state to have Lula instead of Bolsonaro.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 05:39 PM (Vqx30)
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I just checked USDA, and the cattle inventory is down about 33% from its peak which was about 1975.
So 50 years, down by 1/3 but population up by what, 75%?
Maybe the numbers I saw were per capita. Either way, it is down when people are much wealthier and should be eating more beef.
I guess diet has something to do with it, but exports should be up.
So 50 years, down by 1/3 but population up by what, 75%?
Maybe the numbers I saw were per capita. Either way, it is down when people are much wealthier and should be eating more beef.
I guess diet has something to do with it, but exports should be up.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 24, 2025 05:39 PM (06XVj)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 24, 2025 05:39 PM (wzAuc)
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I think wings have changed significantly in sixty years. I remember reading an article way back when about the invention of the "super critical air foil" I believe it was, in which the shape of the wing changes depending on whether the airplane is at cruising altitude or landing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:39 PM (tT6L1)
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I think wings have changed significantly in sixty years. I remember reading an article way back when about the invention of the "super critical air foil" I believe it was, in which the shape of the wing changes depending on whether the airplane is at cruising altitude or landing.
it is more of a software than hardware thing, it curses at and insults the pilot until he trims the plane correctly.
it is more of a software than hardware thing, it curses at and insults the pilot until he trims the plane correctly.
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:41 PM (QbtCZ)
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Our "food" has too many hormones and chemicals and the other countries won't allow their citizens to be exposed to it.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 24, 2025 05:34 PM
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Nah. The Euros lay awake at night thinking up excuses for not allowing American food products into their little theme park, so as to protect their politically-powerful farmers.
See, e.g., bans on "GMO" food, which they can't produce anyway.
Posted by: Boron Quidquid - you realize Darwin disproved evolution, right? at April 24, 2025 05:34 PM
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Nah. The Euros lay awake at night thinking up excuses for not allowing American food products into their little theme park, so as to protect their politically-powerful farmers.
See, e.g., bans on "GMO" food, which they can't produce anyway.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:42 PM (YqDXo)
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it is more of a software than hardware thing, it curses at and insults the pilot until he trims the plane correctly.
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:41 PM (QbtCZ)
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Ah, jilted bride syndrome.
it is more of a software than hardware thing, it curses at and insults the pilot until he trims the plane correctly.
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:41 PM (QbtCZ)
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Ah, jilted bride syndrome.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:42 PM (tT6L1)
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With the decline in the cattle population, has there been a subsequent increase in the number of chickens? How about pigs?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)
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it is more of a software than hardware thing, it curses at and insults the pilot until he trims the plane correctly.
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:41 PM (QbtCZ)
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Obligatory: 'm Gonna Git You Sucka (198
- Kung Fu Joe Gets Pulled Over Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJlJX4Rj_WU
Posted by: n at April 24, 2025 05:41 PM (QbtCZ)
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Obligatory: 'm Gonna Git You Sucka (198
- Kung Fu Joe Gets Pulled Over Scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJlJX4Rj_WU
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 24, 2025 05:46 PM (YqDXo)
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175 I would love to see the Canadians send their oil to asia. Getting a pipeline over the highest of the Rocky Mountains is the easy part; getting BC to agree to it is the tough part.
The reason Canada sends oil to the US is because they can't send it west and their voters won't allow them to pipe it east.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (lTGtQ)
There is nothing wrong with my country that 32 million of the correct dead would not cure....
The reason Canada sends oil to the US is because they can't send it west and their voters won't allow them to pipe it east.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 05:18 PM (lTGtQ)
There is nothing wrong with my country that 32 million of the correct dead would not cure....
Posted by: Stateless...21% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 24, 2025 05:48 PM (jvJvP)
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138 It's so nice that the media is rooting ..... For China....
If he was curing cancer, they would accuse him of Cancer genocide. They're completely around the bend.
If he was curing cancer, they would accuse him of Cancer genocide. They're completely around the bend.
Posted by: Nelly at April 24, 2025 05:52 PM (pSknm)
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They're completely around the bend.
Posted by: Nelly at April 24, 2025 05:52 PM
They really are.
When the mental health professionals are getting caught vandalizing Teslas and saying "Trump made me do it" they are way past around the bend.
Posted by: Nelly at April 24, 2025 05:52 PM
They really are.
When the mental health professionals are getting caught vandalizing Teslas and saying "Trump made me do it" they are way past around the bend.
Posted by: Frank Barone at April 24, 2025 05:56 PM (IifOV)
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"So 50 years, down by 1/3 but population up by what, 75%?
Maybe the numbers I saw were per capita. Either way, it is down when people are much wealthier and should be eating more beef.
I guess diet has something to do with it, but exports should be up."
So Keto and Carnivore Diets .. For The Win?
idk what RFK Jr's ideal diet is, other than no food dyes. But the "food pyramid" diet killed a lot of people too early.
Maybe the numbers I saw were per capita. Either way, it is down when people are much wealthier and should be eating more beef.
I guess diet has something to do with it, but exports should be up."
So Keto and Carnivore Diets .. For The Win?
idk what RFK Jr's ideal diet is, other than no food dyes. But the "food pyramid" diet killed a lot of people too early.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2025 05:56 PM (Cus5s)
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China is a teenager among nations, because it has never had to deal with other nations as an equal, it never matured and grew up. It has been spoilt by always getting its own way.
It has never fought a war with an equal, where both sides eventually want peace, like mature adults. Childish bullying is all China knows in its entire history.
It has never fought a war with an equal, where both sides eventually want peace, like mature adults. Childish bullying is all China knows in its entire history.
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