Elon Musk Announces He'll Be "Scaling Back" His Work With DOGE as Democrat-Antifa Terrorism Crashes Tesla's Profits

lon Musk will significantly scale back his Trump administration work in May to focus on Tesla, the billionaire announced Tuesday as the electric vehicle maker reported a 71 percent drop in first-quarter profits.
"Probably in the next month, my time allocation to DOGE will drop significantly," Musk said at the outset of an earnings conference call, referring to his work for the "Department of Government Efficiency."
The comments came as Tesla reported profits of $409 million following a drop in auto sales that analysts said reflected brand damage due to Musk's work for President Donald Trump in slashing the US federal workforce.
Revenues fell nine percent to $19.3 billion.
The company retreated from its 2025 guidance, citing unpredictability over trade policy and demand.
"Uncertainty in the automotive and energy markets continues to increase as rapidly evolving trade policy adversely impacts the global supply chain and cost structure of Tesla and our peers," the company said.
"This dynamic, along with changing political sentiment, could have a meaningful impact on demand for our products in the near-term."

Literally zero left wing media corporations have condemned these terrorist attacks, therefore, they endorse the use of terrorism against a corporation as an expression of political disagreement.

We're pretty angry, media. You may regret being such major players in the terror game.

Hello, everyone.

Posted by: Ace at 12:20 PM

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1 one?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 12:21 PM (uCjyK)

2 Top 10

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 24, 2025 12:21 PM (pZ64F)

3 I guess the heckler's veto wins again.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:21 PM (s8j++)

4 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 12:22 PM (aHfB6)

5 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip

And just what the hell do you mean by THAT?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:22 PM (s8j++)

6 He said he's scaling back.. Said he's probably work with DOGE once or twice a week...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 12:22 PM (VE6XX)

7 If I owned a Tesla, I'd probably get a bumper sticker something like "Yes, I own a Tesla. I also own a Glock 21. Your call."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:22 PM (W5ArC)

8 This was always the plan, though, right? Musk's special appointment is time-limited.

Posted by: can of spam at April 24, 2025 12:23 PM (7oNMO)

9 He and Trump said back in December that he'd do this through April or May. The media trying to spin this into a win for Antifa is hilarious.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:23 PM (2ocoG)

10 The media is absolutely gleeful about it.

Even the normally not crazy liberal Wall Street Journal loves to run article after article about how musk is getting hurt.

I will forever be thankful for all the fraud musk exposed, but there’s no doubt the man will have a target on his back forever.

Posted by: Maroon at April 24, 2025 12:23 PM (lVKJi)

11 Wasn't he always supposed to "scale back" his DOGE activities after a certain point in time?

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:24 PM (77rzZ)

12 Will they? Will they...?

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 12:24 PM (sBjls)

13 I can't blame the man for spending time on his own businesses.

He's already given so much to his adopted country... We can't expect him to go bankrupt for it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:24 PM (W5ArC)

14 While the attack on Tesla by unhinged leftists is undoubtedly playing a big role in their reduced profit, Tesla is not immune to the general and growing disenchantment with EVs. They were going to suffer eventually, but it's better to have less business than go out of business entirely, as so many of them have.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:24 PM (s8j++)

15 Wasn't he always supposed to "scale back" his DOGE activities after a certain point in time?

Correct, and that certain point was always now.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:24 PM (2ocoG)

16 The stock price of Tesla has still done insanely well over the last few years

I think musk‘s big problem though is it was mostly California liberals that bought Tesla cars, so if that crew boycotts you it’s going to make a dent in sales.

I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.

Posted by: Maroon at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (lVKJi)

17 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (/dDa4)

18 >>>We're pretty angry, media. You may regret being such major players in the terror game.

*nods*

Posted by: Ghost of Dlamp at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (i24o9)

19 Wasn't he always supposed to "scale back" his DOGE activities after a certain point in time?

Correct, and that certain point was always now.

No, it was me. All me. I'm powerful.

Posted by: Delusional Antifoid at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (s8j++)

20 My very sheltered default leftardish friend said Musk was "stupid" to get involved.

He said "How come Bill Gates never got involved in politics?"

🤔

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (sBjls)

21 I heard on WMAL yesterday that a government special employee can only work a certain number of days in that category. I think it was 130 days. That would put it right in the middleof May.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)

22 I thought ace was also going to temporarily scale back.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (VofaG)

23 9 He and Trump said back in December that he'd do this through April or May. The media trying to spin this into a win for Antifa is hilarious.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:23 PM (2ocoG)
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Yep. It may have been "through first 100 days" but I'm not sure.

Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (G0vdT)

24 He will probably promote someone who is even more vicious than him.

"Big Ballz, congratulations on your promotion."

Posted by: NR Pax at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (lXoJ5)

25 Tesla is not immune to the general and growing disenchantment with EVs.

The funny thing is a fair number of Western automakers are going even harder on EVs as a way to own the conservatives, while at the Beijing Auto Show several Chinese makers rolled out new twin-turbo V8s and a V12.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (2ocoG)

26 Musk should sell the Doge toolkit to soon to be broke Los Angeles and Chicago.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (rJ48h)

27 Not enough of you to scare anyone. See the Hands Off protests.

Posted by: Sid at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (cAV5e)

28 TSLA is up 1.32% today.

Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (jc0TO)

29 Oh, almost forgot.
Hi Ace.
Nice weather has finally arrived here in MD. Time to spend more time outside.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (t/2Uw)

30 I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.
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Starlink is great, but if you already have terrestrial Internet it’s not better than that. For those of us in the sticks, it’s way better than HughesNet or Verizon Wireless.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (/dDa4)

31 $3.25/shr

Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (jc0TO)

32 IIRC, Musk's tenure as a "special government employee" could only be for so long... 120 days I believe. The media is framing it as a bow to the terror attacks on Tesla dealerships and owners, but that's probably only a small part of Musk's reasoning to return to the private sector.

I'll bet he returns to Federal service before the end of Trump's term for more fun and games.

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Posted by: Sturmtoddler at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (nXhwP)

34 I thought ace was also going to temporarily scale back.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (VofaG)

You know who else temporarily scaled back?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (i24o9)

35 > I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.
Posted by: Maroon at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (lVKJi)

Starlink?

There's some rural property in a family estate. If it winds up being kept, Starlink would be a great option.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (W5ArC)

36 I thought ace was also going to temporarily scale back.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

He was referring to his shelving activities only.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (77rzZ)

37 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.

It's not going too well for Hamas.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (2ocoG)

38 Wasn't he always supposed to "scale back" his DOGE activities after a certain point in time?

Correct, and that certain point was always now.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:24 PM (2ocoG)

His position had a legislative time limit whether he wanted to scale back or not.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (VofaG)

39 The Gov employee who just got a wrist slap for keying Teslas better be careful where he eats for awhile.

Public shaming it is.

Posted by: Francis at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (bbuBP)

40 As a Special Government Employee (SGE), Musk was always on a time clock for contributing his services to DC. By statute, he could only work for 130 days in a 365-day calendar year.

He was leaving in May no matter what. He can, of course come back later to make sure that DOGE is working just fine, but he was never going to leave his business for more than a few months. In light of the media rumor mill spewing disinformation back in February about Trump and Musk not getting along, it's funny that you don't hear about that anymore.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (5v+S7)

41 Hard to say how much of that Tesla drop was from "terrorism", and how much was from likely drops in government handouts for EVs.

Trump is loud and proud about increasing energy production, including oil and coal. Not sure if he has mentioned nuclear. But maybe if it is leftists (mostly) buying Teslas, it is possible fewer would buy from Elon as head of Doge ... though how can "reasonable leftists" object to the billions of fraud and waste being rooted out?

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (Cus5s)

42 Hello, Ace!

Posted by: Emmie at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (Sf2cq)

43 My understanding is the plan was scheduled for the first 100 days of Trump's term. Scaling back his involvement with DOGE was planned -- there are those in place who will continue the good work, as there is so much more to do in this massive audit. The left knew Elon's 100-day commitment, so they ramped up the protests and the vandalism and terrorism to create the optics that they scared Elon away from DC. Those on the who watch legacy media believe the left have another scalp.

Posted by: Coki at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (Wkrcf)

44 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!

Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (jc0TO)

45 His withdrawal was planned months ago and I do not think as a result of left wing terrorism.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (RIvkX)

46 Revenues fell all the way to 19 billion! How's the revenue of the "news" organizations doing?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (6/frM)

47 Ran into a guy last night (probably about 35) while grabbing a coffee. He was parked out front in what appeared to be a 2024 Corvette. Pretty car if you like that sort of thing. On both sides of this white Vette were stenciled letters spelling out:

"Fire Musk!"

So, I had to ask him. "Nice car. Why did you ruin it with the lettering?" I'm not stupid. I knew someone that invested in such nonsense would start spouting the usual idiocy. But, instead he took a deep breath and stared down at the ground before looking up and shrugging. "It's my wife's car. I'm just filling up the tank for her." I couldn't help but laugh. Then he said. "I only offer at night because I'm hoping no one sees it."

I wished him well.

Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (dIske)

48 So Tesla profit fell from 576 to 409 MILLION.

Now do a graph showing what DOGE has saved.

Posted by: scottst at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (qcvs8)

49 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!

*ears perk up*

Posted by: Barack Obama, Man's Country Lifetime Member at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (2ocoG)

50 > and how much was from likely drops in government handouts for EVs.

Tesla hasn't received any government support for years, and has in fact paid back ALL of the government funding it received.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (W5ArC)

51 >>"Big Ballz, congratulations on your promotion."

That would be perfect.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (F30Ty)

52 Isn't 130 days the max term of his 'temp' status, anyways?

You really got his scalp there, arsonists!

Posted by: t-bird at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (1sLEZ)

53 The MSM loses more and more credibility each day. It would be nice to see PDTS just shit can them from the WH and make room for more alternative entities.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead...Wearing Pants and Working at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (luW68)

54 This just means Elon will hand over some duties to somebody else at DOGE which is still supposed to be around until July of next year.

Might be a good thing for those guys if they can fly under the radar without all of the spotlight on Musk.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (6ydKt)

55 What I wish I could get is Tesla FSD (Full Self Driving) system on a ICE vehicle.

Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (G0vdT)

56 We had a discussion last night on the ONT. I suggested that Tesla ought to offer an electric repop of the Nash Metropolitan:

https://tinyurl.com/3de2htnm

Make it look as much like the original as possible, consistent with current crash-worthiness rules, etc. Make it an entry-level e-Car, and call it the Lectropolitan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (8zz6B)

57 Nice weather has finally arrived here in MD. Time to spend more time outside.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

My wife and I drove up to Charles Town, WV yesterday, and came back by way of Harpers Ferry and Brunswick, MD. Absolutely gorgeous weather and scenery.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (77rzZ)

58 14 While the attack on Tesla by unhinged leftists is undoubtedly playing a big role in their reduced profit, Tesla is not immune to the general and growing disenchantment with EVs. They were going to suffer eventually, but it's better to have less business than go out of business entirely, as so many of them have.
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Chyna has also stopped all rare Earth metal sales to the US. It's gotta hurt.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (/U5Yz)

59 35 > I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.
Posted by: Maroon at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (lVKJi

Yeah, we are thrilled with Musk but don't want electric cars,

Can't he buy a brewery?
Casino?

Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (jvJvP)

60 >> Chinese makers rolled out new twin-turbo V8s and a V12.

Good lord. Modern cars are enough of a pain to work on. I can’t imagine the shitshow of a Chinese V12.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (/dDa4)

61 As a Special Government Employee (SGE), Musk was always on a time clock for contributing his services to DC. By statute, he could only work for 130 days in a 365-day calendar year.

The previous administration taught me that such rules are suggestions to be ignored when convenient.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (lXoJ5)

62 osted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (dIske)

Yeah I was about to say he was a little young for a mid life crisis.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (VofaG)

63 Trump is loud and proud about increasing energy production, including oil and coal. Not sure if he has mentioned nuclear. But maybe if it is leftists (mostly) buying Teslas, it is possible fewer would buy from Elon as head of Doge ... though how can "reasonable leftists" object to the billions of fraud and waste being rooted out?
Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (Cus5s)

This morning I saw a boatload of political signs for the local commie candidate that read, "Stop TRUMP!! Stop MUSK!!" Yeah, a Dem. Of course

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (5xuJ/)

64 Tesla should design a good hybrid. This pure EV shit is just that, shit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (/U5Yz)

65 Good lord. Modern cars are enough of a pain to work on. I can’t imagine the shitshow of a Chinese V12.

Yeah, I'm torn between "mmmm, V12" and "oh god, a Temu V12".

Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (2ocoG)

66 No good deed goes unpunished.

They keep lists & name names.
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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (NFX2v)

67 Of course the terrorism against Tesla works. This is why they're doing it. Plus - the EV is the standard staple of the adherent to the church of the climate cataclysm, aka Democrat lunatics. You can't signal your virtue driving around a Tesla anymore - I'd say that this effect has more to do with Tesla's crash than Elon's DOGE participation.

Speaking of automotive industry news - Volvo announced layoffs at their commercial truck assembly facilities in PA, VA and MD. Tariffs cited. Mercedes is slowing production of their US-produced vehicles. "Just make it in America and you don't get tariff'd" was the biggest joke of this whole cockup.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (WYStd)

68 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!
Posted by: toby928

Better than the discussion of poop transplants in the MR thread.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (77rzZ)

69 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (/dDa4)
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You don't say.
-Norway, Spain, and Ireland rewarding Arab terror

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (RIvkX)

70 Seems to me others are interpreting Musk's "scaling back" on DOGE as a response to the damage being done to his car company.

I'm pretty sure he had been saying all along he would not stay in that role for very long. Whether the timing is influenced by the left's insane behavior, unless he says that's why, I'm not going to believe it just because some article says it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (dGCAG)

71 I would be sorry to see Elon go

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (aHfB6)

72 Owning an EV is just not in the cards for me, but I have ridden in a few teslas and they are absolutely beautiful automobiles. If I could afford it, I would love to have a self driving one. I have never liked driving and now that I am 29 it is even worse. Living in area where parking is ridiculously hard, I have to be assured there is a parking lot near where I am going so I don;t have to worry about street parking.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (t/2Uw)

73 Howdy Ace!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (W/lyH)

74 Greetings! Musk said months ago that he would leave around May 1. The DOGE team will still be at it. He also said that one of his companies is on the cusp of a major medical breakthrough and he needs to be hands on there.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (c6hLR)

75 Tesla hasn't received any government support for years, and has in fact paid back ALL of the government funding it received.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (W5ArC)

Tesla’s only profitable because of tax credits and regulatory credits. It’s kept afloat by taxpayers and buyers of new ICE vehicles.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (/dDa4)

76 $409 million profit on $19 billion in sales... that's a massive margin. The reason he's taking a break is so that he can go bathe in cash.

Posted by: t-bird at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (69i/G)

77 Good morning, Ace.

If President Trump has his way, the EPA will no longer stand in the way of locally sourced minerals and energy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (tT6L1)

78 > Chyna has also stopped all rare Earth metal sales to the US. It's gotta hurt.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (/U5Yz)

Eh... we've got plenty of rare earth ore right here. The largest known deposit in the world is in California, close to the Nevada border.

Trump just needs to tell the EPA and their communist brethren to STFU so we can mine them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (W5ArC)

79 Musk is free to design electronic upgrades to his Tesla's now that he's got time.

Like electric shocks for people keying them. Drain the entire fucking battery in two seconds if you have to. But make sure the vandal is toast.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (Q4IgG)

80 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (L/fGl)

81 >>Good lord. Modern cars are enough of a pain to work on. I can’t imagine the shitshow of a Chinese V12.

I can't imagine how much Melamine it takes to build a V12?

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (F30Ty)

82 I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.
Posted by: Maroon at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (lVKJi

Yeah, we are thrilled with Musk but don't want electric cars,

Can't he buy a brewery?
Casino?
Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (jvJvP)

Ive been after him to write a different autocorrect program. He would make another billion and garner the love of even his most ardent enemy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (VofaG)

83 If I owned a Tesla, I'd probably get a bumper sticker something like "Yes, I own a Tesla. I also own a Glock 21. Your call."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:22 PM (W5ArC)

I was disappointed on Easter Sunday when I saw a Tesla in the church parking lot and it had a sign on it saying something like Elon is a rat. C'mon, if you own a Tesla, then "own" it.

Posted by: haffhowershower at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (144I4)

84 "Might be a good thing for those guys if they can fly under the radar without all of the spotlight on Musk."

Concur. Anyhow, Musk stated at the onset that he was only going to work a few months on this. He's set the right "tone at the top" and we will be spared a trillion a year in risible expenses.

Posted by: CTHillary, dead but dreaming at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (VXSVh)

85 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (/dDa4)
====

You don't say.
-Norway, Spain, and Ireland rewarding Arab terror
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:32 PM (RIvkX)
-

In a backhanded way, so does Israel.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (Kjgs1)

86 I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.

Same. I have a lot of respect for what Elon has accomplished even if i don't agree with him on much. But I detest electric cars and find them to be absolutely pointless.

Posted by: Nelly at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (pSknm)

87 It’s funny, Tesla’s a major beneficiary of cap-and-trade emissions credits, which is apparently now a conservative thing.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:35 PM (/dDa4)

88 Literally zero left wing media corporations have condemned these terrorist attacks, therefore, they endorse the use of terrorism against a corporation as an expression of political disagreement.

We're pretty angry, media. You may regret being such major players in the terror game.

Indeed, they will not like it when they finally push too far. Lefties love them some violence. Payback will be a bitch.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2025 12:35 PM (W/lyH)

89 > Tesla’s only profitable because of tax credits and regulatory credits.

As I said, they haven't received ANY government support (including tax credits) in literally years. The tax credit expired in 2023.

Look it up.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:35 PM (W5ArC)

90 I thought ace was also going to temporarily scale back.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:26 PM (VofaG)

You know who else temporarily scaled back?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:27 PM (i24o9)
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Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 24, 2025 12:35 PM (7fElN)

91 I'm not inherently opposed to EV's, they just have to offer as good or better features.

For me:
1. Five minute full charge.
2. 350 miles to a charge.
3. Won't have runaway thermal fires! (this really should be first)

Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2025 12:36 PM (G0vdT)

92 Tesla’s only profitable because of tax credits and regulatory credits. It’s kept afloat by taxpayers and buyers of new ICE vehicles.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (/dDa4)

Yep. Elon's the biggest carbon credit grifter on the planet.

The other manufacturers literally have to pay Tesla when they sell an ICE car just because of the complete bullsh*t "Carbon Credit" scheme.

Loved what Elon did with DOGE. I'll forever hate loathe and despise him for the seemingly irreparable damage he's done to the automotive industry. The fact that literally every car on the market, down to the "cheapest" $25k commuter car has a f*cking tablet mounted on its dash is his f*cking fault.

He turned cars into rolling cell phones because he's a silicon valley dweeb.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 24, 2025 12:36 PM (WYStd)

93 Yeah, we are thrilled with Musk but don't want electric cars,

Can't he buy a brewery?
Casino?
Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (jvJvP)
__________________________________

I know a lot of people who wish the same thing....myself included. I don't just have indifference towards EV's. I abhor them for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which is the way they are used to make ICE's more expensive (supply side economic repercussions and increased regulations/ taxes).

I'd gladly throw some bucks Elon's way if he entered a business far away from any political spectrum, and if the items were useful to me. EV's are not.

Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (dIske)

94

My wife and I drove up to Charles Town, WV yesterday, and came back by way of Harpers Ferry and Brunswick, MD. Absolutely gorgeous weather and scenery.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:30 PM (77rzZ)
I swam in an outdoor pool yesterday and then sat in a lounge chair in the sun for awhile. Having lived in New England for most of my life, I will never get over how miraculous that is.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (t/2Uw)

95 I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.
Posted by: Maroon at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (lVKJi)

People have already mentioned Starlink but there's also X, SpaceX, The Boring Company, goodness only knows what else. Admittedly, SpaceX and The Boring Company aren't really consumer focused.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (ExV1e)

96 > 3. Won't have runaway thermal fires! (this really should be first)
Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2025 12:36 PM (G0vdT)

Unlike gasoline, which as we all know never, ever, ever catches fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (W5ArC)

97 We're pretty angry, media. You may regret being such major players in the terror game.

———

Nobody is going to do anything and if they did they will be criticized from the Right.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (Vh9CX)

98 I have a feeling that not only the left is unhappy with Elon's DOGE work, but many on the right whose shenanigans have been curtailed are furious as well. It's a team effort !

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (g47mK)

99 was disappointed on Easter Sunday when I saw a Tesla in the church parking lot and it had a sign on it saying something like Elon is a rat. C'mon, if you own a Tesla, then "own" it.
Posted by: haffhowershower at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (144I4)

Should have put a note on the windshield

Judge Not Lest Ye be Judged

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (VofaG)

100 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO

I'm not that good at reading people, but I think she's upset.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (s8j++)

101 You don't lose 71% without help from WS.

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (g47mK)

102 >>Yep. Elon's the biggest carbon credit grifter on the planet.

Have we met?

Posted by: Al Gore at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (F30Ty)

103 If I had the cash, I wouldn't mind owning a Tesla for local out and about stuff.

I think the Tesla is close to being a nice second car for the person who needs an every day driver. Plus, how nice would it be if one has a 75 mile one way commute to come home, plug the car in and be done with it? Versus hitting the gas station every couple of days?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (tT6L1)

104 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!
Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 12:29 PM (jc0TO)

That's a bit like TJM announcing that he's keeping the comments Prometheus-free.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (ExV1e)

105 For me:
1. Five minute full charge.
2. 350 miles to a charge.
3. Won't have runaway thermal fires! (this really should be first)
Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2025 12:36 PM (G0vdT)
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Then there is the pesky outdated electrical grid that can't accommodate a massive influx of EV's. But, what's a few brownouts here and there?

Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (dIske)

106 Good. Excellent.

Elon will rotate out after getting the ball rolling and calling the tune, and be replaced with some polished osmium ramrod of a MF'er no one has ever heard of who doesn't have multiple billion dollar companies that can be harassed.

Shut up, i can dream.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 24, 2025 12:39 PM (VoAdT)

107 James O'Keefe's OMG is going to run with this as a 1st Amendment violation. Will be interesting:

https://tinyurl.com/2rdc43kr

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:39 PM (Kjgs1)

108 98 I have a feeling that not only the left is unhappy with Elon's DOGE work, but many on the right whose shenanigans have been curtailed are furious as well. It's a team effort !
Posted by: runner
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Seeking purity in politics is about like finding virtue in a whorehouse. Some of those most preening about muh principles are exactly the ones that you have to count the spoons after they leave.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 12:39 PM (ctrM5)

109 Unlike gasoline, which as we all know never, ever, ever catches fire.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (W5ArC)

Gasoline doesn't contain within itself both the fuel and the catalyst.

Lithium batteries do.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 24, 2025 12:39 PM (WYStd)

110 People have already mentioned Starlink but there's also X, SpaceX, The Boring Company, goodness only knows what else. Admittedly, SpaceX and The Boring Company aren't really consumer focused.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (ExV1e)

His AI company just bought X (twitter) in a stock exchange purchase.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:39 PM (VofaG)

111 No financial incentive here, but I wanted to pimp a baseball safety product.

https://www.sstbaseball.com/

They make carbon fiber, helmet-like shell hat inserts that fit into a standard baseball hat to protect pitchers from the impact of line drives.

My kid pitches, and the league allowed hotter USSSA bats this year like the Hype Fire and Rawlings Icon. The prospect of a line drive to the head is something that literally keeps me up at night. He already snatched a line drive that was within a foot of his head in a scrimmage.

So these seemed like a good, minimally intrusive solution to providing some head protection, without a full helmet.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (i24o9)

112 $409 million profit on $19 billion in sales... that's a massive margin. The reason he's taking a break is so that he can go bathe in cash.
Posted by: t-bird at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (69i/G)

That’s a bit over 2%. Tesla got $600 million in regulatory credits, so without that they’d be unprofitable.

That’s not even counting tax credits.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (/dDa4)

113 Aren't all of you forgetting that Musk owns X? This is by far his most valuable contribution. He also has SpaceX, Starlink, Robotics, working on neurolink projects. I mean, seriously people, he has to buy a brewery to satisfy you?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (t/2Uw)

114 Have we met?
Posted by: Al Gore at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (F30Ty)

They share a common chakra.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (WYStd)

115 >>I think the Tesla is close to being a nice second car for the person who needs an every day driver. Plus, how nice would it be if one has a 75 mile one way commute to come home, plug the car in and be done with it? Versus hitting the gas station every couple of days?

Until your house burns down...

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (F30Ty)

116 Liberals who bought earlier will now save on resale value by getting fellow liberals to wreck their car.

Posted by: MikeN at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (HVZOH)

117 Gasoline doesn't contain within itself both the fuel and the catalyst.

Lithium batteries do.

It's literally bathing in the oxidant. It doesn't need a catalyst.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (s8j++)

118 I wish there were other products. Elon Musk made because I’m just not a big electric car guy.

———

Starlink

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 12:41 PM (Vh9CX)

119 Until your house burns down...
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:40 PM (F30Ty)
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Check your neighborhood. How many people actually use their garage for their cars any more?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:41 PM (tT6L1)

120 It's literally bathing in the oxidant. It doesn't need a catalyst.

Well, unless you're driving on the moon.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:41 PM (s8j++)

121 Have we met?
Posted by: Al Gore at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (F30Ty)

Musk is the richest guy on Earth, most of which comes from his global warming scam company.

You’re a piker, Al.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (/dDa4)

122 This will give Musk more time to study the affects of the Neuralink brain chip implants and robots that will have large tata's.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (/U5Yz)

123 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO

I'm not that good at reading people, but I think she's upset.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (s8j++)
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I think she needs to step out of the car and very carefully follow all the other instructions the nice policeman tells her to do.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (Kjgs1)

124 >>Check your neighborhood. How many people actually use their garage for their cars any more?

That is where your charger is gonna be.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (F30Ty)

125 I liked Musk even when he was the Left's darling. I don't get the hate at all.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (VofaG)

126 People have already mentioned Starlink but there's also X, SpaceX, The Boring Company, goodness only knows what else. Admittedly, SpaceX and The Boring Company aren't really consumer focused.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (ExV1e)

You could have bought his not-a-flame thrower, but you didn't, did you?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (8zz6B)

127 Nobody is going to do anything and if they did they will be criticized from the Right.
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Covid says you're correct. There were literally zero instances where law enforcement was *corrected* by the armed citizenry so that they realized their presence was no longer needed. We as a nation largely rolled over and allowed the equivalent of un-elected county nurses to shut down churches while WalMart and the liquor stores stayed open.

Posted by: Crusader at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (TN0g+)

128 But I detest electric cars and find them to be absolutely pointless.
Posted by: Nelly at April 24, 2025 12:34 PM (pSknm)

i wouldn't say pointless. I'd take one for city living / driving only, if i had the disposable income to do it.

plus it is a very nice ride.

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (nXhwP)

129 >>Musk is the richest guy on Earth, most of which comes from his global warming scam company.

>You’re a piker, Al.

Name anything Al Gore made.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)

130 7 If I owned a Tesla, I'd probably get a bumper sticker something like "Yes, I own a Tesla. I also own a Glock 21. Your call."
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Just get a magnetic NAZI flag and put it on your car doors.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (pZ64F)

131 Unlike gasoline, which as we all know never, ever, ever catches fire.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (W5ArC)

Not without assistance.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (5xuJ/)

132 That is where your charger is gonna be.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (F30Ty)
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Yeah, those people run extension cords to their cars. I've seen it and still can't believe it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (tT6L1)

133 124 >>Check your neighborhood. How many people actually use their garage for their cars any more?

That is where your charger is gonna be.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (F30Ty)

Yes, but you can charge it in your driveway like My neighbors do...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (VE6XX)

134 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (L/fGl)

I'm kind of invested now. I want to know the backstory.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:44 PM (ExV1e)

135 Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)

He made kissing your wife on stage political kryptonite.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 24, 2025 12:44 PM (VoAdT)

136 *adjusts beret*

*lights Gauloise*

*peevishly orders a tiny cup of coffee from a sidewalk bistro*

Le Musk est mort. Vive le Musk.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 24, 2025 12:44 PM (6YdsJ)

137 Nothing temporary about this scaled back.

Posted by: Komodo Dragon at April 24, 2025 12:44 PM (cKhu0)

138 I would no sooner let my Electric Vehicle charge in my garage than I would let my 65 VW Idle in there.

Either way is asking for a house fire.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (F30Ty)

139 Musk is just afraid that the democrat terrorists will hurt him or his family.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (rjVXX)

140 100 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO

I'm not that good at reading people, but I think she's upset.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (s8j++)

I bet she's a demon in the sack.
Bossy too....

Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (jvJvP)

141 >>Yes, but you can charge it in your driveway like My neighbors do...

Merely mitigating the chance of fire damage to your home, but in no way eliminating it.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (F30Ty)

142 As I said, they haven't received ANY government support (including tax credits) in literally years. The tax credit expired in 2023.

Look it up.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:35 PM (W5ArC)

Tesla makes billions of dollars selling CAFE credits to other car manufacturers in the US every year. It's a cap and trade scheme our government backdoored in years ago. They also don't directly get the EV tax rebates that exist(ed) at the federal level in the US and around the world, and still exist in some states, but it's disingenuous to say that those billions of dollars in government tax credits don't benefit Tesla.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)

143 Yeah, we are thrilled with Musk but don't want electric cars,

Can't he buy a brewery?
Casino?
Posted by: Stateless.. 21% - mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back next week at April 24, 2025 12:31 PM (jvJvP)

This is a reminder that dataRepublican is Elon Musk adjacent and her husband owns a distillery. Which is like a brewery only better.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:46 PM (ExV1e)

144 i'm not surprised that tesla sales are down: who has been buying teslas, trump voters or hillary/kamala voters?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 24, 2025 12:46 PM (CWTWj)

145 Musk is just afraid that the democrat terrorists will hurt him or his family.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (rjVXX)
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He already pays for private security. I believe he's already had armed people intercepted. The death threats may have gone to 11 but they're not new.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (tT6L1)

146 I swam in an outdoor pool yesterday and then sat in a lounge chair in the sun for awhile. Having lived in New England for most of my life, I will never get over how miraculous that is.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (t/2Uw)

obligatory: pics or it didn't happen...
-_-

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (nXhwP)

147 Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett

The Internet. Duh.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (77rzZ)

148 Another Obama judge overruling the Executive Office:

https://tinyurl.com/2a3vmtjf

They need to be ignored and it needs to be stated out loud by the WH and by the DOJ.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (Kjgs1)

149 Imma gonna get a Not A Flame Thrower Flame Thrower and pickup a used Tesla and have some fun.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (pZ64F)

150 What does a battery replacement on the early gen Teslas cost these days?

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (F30Ty)

151 As I said, they haven't received ANY government support (including tax credits) in literally years. The tax credit expired in 2023.

Look it up.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:35 PM (W5ArC)

I mean, Tesla’s own financial filings list $595 million in regulatory credits alone.

At the top of Tesla’s US homepage they trumpet the tax credit:

https://www.tesla.com/

But I’m sure you know more about it than them.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (/dDa4)

152 I saw Ion Musk open for Atomic Kitten at The O2 in '13.

Posted by: ShainS -- at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (hC3xx)

153 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:33 PM (L/fGl)

I'm kind of invested now. I want to know the backstory.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:44 PM (ExV1e)

Bitches be buggin'. And apparently she got a ticket for failing to signal.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (i24o9)

154 Five minute full charge.

I wonder how many Tesla owners are aware that supercharging a battery damages the battery.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (ExV1e)

155 I'm not an EV advocate but the incidents of spontaneous fires in a Tesla are minuscule. Lower than ICE vehicles.

Its like the high incidents of aluminum wired houses catching fire you read in the papers every day.
What ???

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (VofaG)

156 Rachel Moiselle
@RachelMoiselle

The Nova exhibition shared a post inviting Kneecap to see their exhibit, one that honours the innocent victims of a brutal massacre, among them an Irish-Israeli girl. Irish people online have, to the tune of thousands, sneered at this invitation. They are collectively mocking this initiative that seeks to humanise murdered civilians.

What does it say when Irish society celebrates a music group that wrote ‘solidarity with the Palestinian struggle’ as the bodies of the October 7th victims were still being counted, yet expresses utter contempt for an exhibition that attempts to give these victims dignity?

What does it say when Irish society pontificates that this group is ‘on the right side of history’ as they praise a neo-Nazi, all while viciously targeting a woman for calling this out?

It is time for the ‘silent majority’ to speak up. Because, as it stands, you are complicit in this hatred and extremism continuing to take hold here.

Náire. That is how I feel being Irish these days. Shame.
8:44 AM · Apr 22, 2025
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No Irish.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (RIvkX)

157 124 >>Check your neighborhood. How many people actually use their garage for their cars any more?

That is where your charger is gonna be.
Posted by: garrett

We have a three car garage. Two bays have vehicles in them most of the time, the third bay is my shop. I had a 50 amp circuit installed outside for the RV so, technically, I could be charging an EV outside.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (/U5Yz)

158 was disappointed on Easter Sunday when I saw a Tesla in the church parking lot and it had a sign on it saying something like Elon is a rat. C'mon, if you own a Tesla, then "own" it.

Could be camoflage. There's only one side that will torch your car.

Posted by: t-bird at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (nYrjk)

159 I like Musk and what he is doing for Trump but if him going bankrupt is what it takes to get rid if the cyber-truck it is a hit I'm willing to take.

Posted by: Ripley at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (GUOwU)

160 107 James O'Keefe's OMG is going to run with this as a 1st Amendment violation. Will be interesting:

https://tinyurl.com/2rdc43kr
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Cook County IL and the eavesdropping law in IL.

2014 People v. Clark, IL Sup. Court held, "Audio and audiovisual recordings are medias of expression commonly used for the preservation and dissemination of information and ideas and thus are included within the free speech and free press guarantees of the first and fourteenth amendments. American Civil Liberties Union v. Alvarez, 679 F.3d 583, 595 (7th Cir. 2012). The act of making such a recording is necessarily included in the first amendment’s guarantee of speech and press rights as a corollary of the right to disseminate the resulting recording. Id. “[T]he eavesdropping statute operates at the front end of the speech process by restricting the use of a common, indeed ubiquitous, instrument of communication. Restricting the use of an audio or audiovisual recording device suppresses speech just as effectively as restricting the dissemination of the resulting recording."

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (ctrM5)

161 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO

I'm not that good at reading people, but I think she's upset.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:38 PM (s8j++)

I intend to run for President in 2028. I will campaign on only one promise. To make it a Federal capital offense to fail to signal you intend to make a turn in your vehicle, at least 100 feet before initiating the turn. Law enforcement will be empowered to summarily execute violators at the scene.

I will win all 538 Electoral Votes.

Posted by: Gref at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (aBgBM)

162 Musk is the richest guy on Earth, most of which comes from his global warming scam company.

You’re a piker, Al.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (/dDa4)

He didn't create the scam. he just took advantage of the rules set by government scammers, as every good capitalist should.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (8zz6B)

163 For those that didn't get the memo:

Thou shalt not speak ill of space daddy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:50 PM (i24o9)

164 139 Musk is just afraid that the democrat terrorists will hurt him or his family.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (rjVXX)

On Joe Rogan Musk said that he has to go easy on some of the Graft, or he'd be killed.

I believe him.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 12:50 PM (QAkQ3)

165 The only type of EV I would consider is an electric side-by-side UTV. I have no use for a gas or diesel one. An EV would be for taking trash down to the road, fetching the mail and maybe some light hauling around the property.

And, no, it would not reside in the garage either.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 24, 2025 12:50 PM (Q4IgG)

166 *adjusts beret*

*lights Gauloise*

*peevishly orders a tiny cup of coffee from a sidewalk bistro*

Le Musk est mort. Vive le Musk.

Posted by: Captain Obvious,

*ponders whether CO pronounced it Moosk or Musk*

Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:50 PM (s8j++)

167 Breaking: Elon says he'll depart on the originally planned timeline.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (2UnvF)

168 Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)

regulations, a career, a fortune and he made a young masseuse cry

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (D7oie)

169 *ponders whether CO pronounced it Moosk or Musk*
Posted by: Archimedes

"Muhsk." The Moosk out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (77rzZ)

170 *adjusts beret*

*lights Gauloise*

*peevishly orders a tiny cup of coffee from a sidewalk bistro*

Le Musk est mort. Vive le Musk.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 24, 2025 12:44 PM (6YdsJ)
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Are you in France or a hipster doofus in Park Slope?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (RIvkX)

171 I swam in an outdoor pool yesterday and then sat in a lounge chair in the sun for awhile. Having lived in New England for most of my life, I will never get over how miraculous that is.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (t/2Uw)
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I went outdoor swimming twice this week. Water temperature was below 70F. The cold outdoor showers I took before and after the swim were slightly colder.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (Kjgs1)

172 *ponders whether CO pronounced it Moosk or Musk*
Posted by: Archimedes at April 24, 2025 12:50 PM (s8j++)

Müsk

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (VoAdT)

173 It’s true that gasoline is pretty volatile.

Which is why you should use diesel.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (/dDa4)

174 Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)

regulations, a career, a fortune and he made a young masseuse cry
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What was his name?

Posted by: Crusader at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (TN0g+)

175 We have a three car garage. Two bays have vehicles in them most of the time, the third bay is my shop. I had a 50 amp circuit installed outside for the RV so, technically, I could be charging an EV outside.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (/U5Yz)
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My wife and I are unusual in that we actually use our two car garage. The third bay is my shop and, yep, I've got a 50 amp sub panel in it. I'd park the Tesla in front of the third bay and charge it with an extension cord from my shop.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)

176 Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (ctrM5)

__________________________

I wish O'Keefe luck. While there seems to be a defense of doing the recording in a public place, it's a gray area in Illinois. And, I can't help noticing that Illinois treats violations of this nature as a felony with potential jail time.

The Judge is going to be a leftist. Cook County. The jury isn't going to be beneficial either.

Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (dIske)

177 Afternoon ace. Musk has done a great service for this nation. Let him go back and do good things in private. DOGE is still in place , driving the Dems nuts

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (6TePA)

178 Trump To Go After Democrat Fundraising Juggernaut ActBlue In Presidential Memorandum: Report

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (Vh9CX)

179 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!
Posted by: toby928
......

Is there another kind?

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

180 Are you in France or a hipster doofus in Park Slope?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (RIvkX)
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Neither.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (6YdsJ)

181 Are you in France or a hipster doofus in Park Slope?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:51 PM (RIvkX)

Failed CBD sock opportunity.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (i24o9)

182 I think she needs to step out of the car and very carefully follow all the other instructions the nice policeman tells her to do.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (Kjgs1)

Except she doesn't appear to have done anything wrong. He's concerned for her mental stability (which seems to be hovering around zero) but he has no reason to harass her.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (ExV1e)

183 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (2sg1c)

184 What was his name?
Posted by: Crusader at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (TN0g+)

Don't know what his license says but his business cards say "Chakra Khan".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (VoAdT)

185 It is time for the ‘silent majority’ to speak up. Because, as it stands, you are complicit in this hatred and extremism continuing to take hold here.

Náire. That is how I feel being Irish these days. Shame.
8:44 AM · Apr 22, 2025
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No Irish.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (RIvkX)

Note, highly unlikely they are alive, but there are still 5 American citizens 'held' by Hamas... or at least there were last time I checked.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (QAkQ3)

186 >> The only type of EV I would consider is an electric side-by-side UTV. I have no use for a gas or diesel one.

Yeah, and they’re much quieter. Gas UTVs are loud as hell. I don’t live in the country so I can hear barely-muffled gas engines sputtering and spewing up and down the damned road.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (/dDa4)

187 But I’m sure you know more about it than them.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (/dDa4)

Is sneering a hobby for you, or is it an avocation?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (D7oie)

188 All that astronaut training going to waste!

Katy Perry “Regrets” Blue Origin Space Flight as She Continues to Face Massive Backlash

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

189
Unlike gasoline, which as we all know never, ever, ever catches fire.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (W5ArC)

Gasoline doesn't contain within itself both the fuel and the catalyst.

Lithium batteries do.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 24, 2025 12:39 PM (WYStd)

ICE vehicles have largely fixed the issue of gasoline fires with smart design, even during bad accidents. There was a time when cars were basically wheeled napalm canisters. Can't get every possible gas fire, of course, especially when the driver is a fucking idiot. *koff koff Paul Walker's friend driving the Porsche koff koff*

But a lot of people in the past were barbecued in moderate accidents that would otherwise have them walking away with nothing more than a sore neck, before the car companies figured out how to redesign the fuel systems to be relatively safe.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (y9nCu)

190 You could have bought his not-a-flame thrower, but you didn't, did you?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:42 PM (8zz6B)

I live in an HOA neighborhood with a strict no flamethrower policy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (ExV1e)

191 The brand damage was caused by terroristic a-holes.

Posted by: SteveF at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (iM6iw)

192 Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)Name anything Al Gore made.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:43 PM (F30Ty)

regulations, a career, a fortune and he made a young masseuse cry
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Make Sex Poodles Great Again!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (6YdsJ)

193 GIVE HIM A TICKET

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (v0R5T)

194 No Irish.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (RIvkX)
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No cry.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (Kjgs1)

195 125 I liked Musk even when he was the Left's darling. I don't get the hate at all.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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The right has its own problem with purity spirals that the left does. The urge to disqualify as unpure and to push people out of the tent is universal in politics.

Historical accounts of the Salem Witch trials are useful in that regard as an illustration.

That was also true in the history of the Massachusetts Bay Colony where even a stalwart like John Winthrop gets flak from his Puritan brethren because he pragmatically limited some of their purity spirals.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (ctrM5)

196 He didn't create the scam. he just took advantage of the rules set by government scammers, as every good capitalist should.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:49 PM (8zz6B)

He basically made the EV scam viable.

I have no respect for someone who gets rich off of taxpayers. They should all be hanged.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (/dDa4)

197 All that astronaut training going to waste!

Katy Perry “Regrets” Blue Origin Space Flight as She Continues to Face Massive Backlash
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

If she's an astronaut, then a 3 year old in a Little Tykes car is a NASCAR driver!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (VNX3d)

198 But I’m sure you know more about it than them.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (/dDa4)

Is sneering a hobby for you, or is it an avocation?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (D7oie)

Sneering is down the hall. This is getting hit on the head lessons.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (i24o9)

199 36 I thought ace was also going to temporarily scale back.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Ace is still here? Crap.

Ok ladies, out of the cake. We'll pay for your time but keep in town and watch for our text.

Posted by: Beartooth at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (dJimA)

200 I live in an HOA neighborhood with a strict no flamethrower policy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (ExV1e)
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Judicious use of the not flamethrower might quell any complaints.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (tT6L1)

201 Oh look, another Federal King has decided that schools don't have to follow non-discrimination laws so long as they are discriminating against whites and dressing it up as "diversity, equity and inclusion."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (mmNvG)

202 150 What does a battery replacement on the early gen Teslas cost these days?

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (F30Ty)

Without processed heavy metals from Chyna, a lot more.

EV is doomed. Too many factors going against it.

Number one being that we still, a billion dollars later, lack charging infrastructure and batteries that last in all climates.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (2sg1c)

203 I went outdoor swimming twice this week. Water temperature was below 70F. The cold outdoor showers I took before and after the swim were slightly colder.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

What're the daytime temps like over there now?

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (77rzZ)

204 183 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA

Check the Fox news Green Room?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (/U5Yz)

205 Tesla makes billions of dollars selling CAFE credits to other car manufacturers in the US every year. It's a cap and trade scheme our government backdoored in years ago. They also don't directly get the EV tax rebates that exist(ed) at the federal level in the US and around the world, and still exist in some states, but it's disingenuous to say that those billions of dollars in government tax credits don't benefit Tesla.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)

Unless you can point to evidence that Musk was instrumental in getting this system set up, that's just good business.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)

206 183 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (2sg1c)

———-

Going over the Epstein files page by page.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (Vh9CX)

207 179 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!
Posted by: toby928
......

Is there another kind?
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

Women can have sperm too, you transphobe!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (uCjyK)

208 So India announced yesterday that it would abrogate the Indus Waters Treaty with Pakistan.

Pakistan today said they would consider that an act of war.

https://tinyurl.com/4a5ppk8r

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 24, 2025 12:57 PM (paSBy)

209 188 All that astronaut training going to waste!

Katy Perry “Regrets” Blue Origin Space Flight as She Continues to Face Massive Backlash
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

Yeah, I still think those Blue Pop Tart Uniforms they wore?

Said 'Vault 69' on the back....

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 12:57 PM (QAkQ3)

210 >>> 39 The Gov employee who just got a wrist slap for keying Teslas better be careful where he eats for awhile.

Public shaming it is.
Posted by: Francis at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (bbuBP)

It would be very sad if xhe's car was keyed any time it ventured out in public.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 12:57 PM (Vqx30)

211 Except she doesn't appear to have done anything wrong. He's concerned for her mental stability (which seems to be hovering around zero) but he has no reason to harass her.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (ExV1e)
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My point WAS about her mental stability - or specifically the lack thereof. She's behind the wheel of a machine that can easily kill.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 12:57 PM (Kjgs1)

212 Unless you can point to evidence that Musk was instrumental in getting this system set up, that's just good business.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)

Good business or not, I was merely pointing out that it is not true that Tesla is not heavily subsidized by the government.

As far as if Elon lobbied to get this system set up? I have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised. Tesla is the prime beneficiary of these schemes.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (uCjyK)

213 Katy Perry “Regrets” Blue Origin Space Flight as She
......

Receives Current Savings Statement

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (v0R5T)

214 I wish O'Keefe luck. While there seems to be a defense of doing the recording in a public place, it's a gray area in Illinois. And, I can't help noticing that Illinois treats violations of this nature as a felony with potential jail time.

The Judge is going to be a leftist. Cook County. The jury isn't going to be beneficial either.
Posted by: Orson at April 24, 2025 12:52 PM (dIske)

Can Illinois get him extradited from another State for a "political" crime like that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (8zz6B)

215 In before we start discussing men's sperm again!
Posted by: toby928
......

Is there another kind?
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2025 12:53 PM (v0R5T)

Women can have sperm too, you transphobe!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (uCjyK)

As much as they want, in my experience.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (i24o9)

216 Why are doomed to failure at the DOJ?

Why is Trump's agenda able to be shut down by judicial activism and judge shopping?

They knew this was likely to happen cause it happened last time.

Unless the tides turn in the SC, Trumps agenda is both DOA and being reversed.

Every ruling seems to be shutting him down and forcing the WH to reverse course.

And with a liberal majority in the SC, this isn't going to change, is it?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (2sg1c)

217
Unless the tides turn in the SC, Trumps agenda is both DOA and being reversed.

Every ruling seems to be shutting him down and forcing the WH to reverse course.

And with a liberal majority in the SC, this isn't going to change, is it?

It is certainly discouraging...
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (2sg1c)

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:00 PM (VE6XX)

218 EV is doomed. Too many factors going against it.

Number one being that we still, a billion dollars later, lack charging infrastructure and batteries that last in all climates.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (2sg1c)

What the Greens don't understand, is that when you refine oil, into Gasoline, it already has a large energy content... you are using energy that is already IN the oil.

Electric or even Hydrogen? You must produce the energy in another form... they only STORE energy, don't really CREATE the energy.... so you have to get that energy from somewhere....

They leave out that part...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 01:00 PM (QAkQ3)

219 What're the daytime temps like over there now?

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (77rzZ)
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Had a heatwave here the last 3 days. 86F and very bad air quality.

Dropping tomorrow to a comfortable 72F.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:00 PM (Kjgs1)

220 150 What does a battery replacement on the early gen Teslas cost these days?

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2025 12:47 PM (F30Ty)

The cost of a new Tesla.

Posted by: Gref at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (aBgBM)

221 Well this was always going to happen.

I'm looking forward to whatever revenge Elon (and Trump) manage for our real domestic terrorists.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (xcxpd)

222 Trump now has the lowest 100 day approval (44%) of the last five presidents according to Fox News.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (/U5Yz)

223 > Where is Pam Bondi?
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Her inability to even articulate what it is she's supposed to be doing has quite a few people asking this very question.

I doubt she'll be around this time next year if the lawfare the administration is withering under isn't quelled. Like yesterday.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)

224 They leave out that part...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 01:00 PM (QAkQ3)

By design. Which makes you realize the agenda isn't about saving the planet but instead is about enriching certain people.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (2sg1c)

225 And with a liberal majority in the SC, this isn't going to change, is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (2sg1c)

Nope. And if Trump's not willing to go full Andrew Jackson on the courts, or at least make SCOTUS believe he would, then...

Well, we'll see.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (uCjyK)

226 "I wonder how many Tesla owners are aware that supercharging a battery damages the battery."

I learned this winter, that one can actually blow up a (lead acid) battery by overcharging it. Makes a loud bang ... (trying to start a tractor in the very cold)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (Cus5s)

227 Can Illinois get him extradited from another State for a "political" crime like that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (8zz6B)
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May have to go to the SC.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (Kjgs1)

228 I took a look at the Tesla web site. The only car model which shows a tax credit is the model Y.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (tT6L1)

229 I guess allt he companies that get tax breaks to locate to state or city their company officers who negotiated it should be hung.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (VofaG)

230 Sigh.

The law that created DOGE under Obama has a time limit. He cannot stay at the place longer than a certain amount because of that law. He's not backing off because of loons burning Teslas.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (2VST1)

231
I went outdoor swimming twice this week. Water temperature was below 70F. The cold outdoor showers I took before and after the swim were slightly colder.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at Ap
Pool temp was 82 degrees, outdoor temp 78. But the Y keeps this pool heated and open year round except when the temps fall under 32 degrees or it's storming. And people actually swim. Me, I'm done the first week in November and yesterday was the first time in 2025. But in MA, July 1 to mid August is about it.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (t/2Uw)

232 Since we’re past 100 comments, here’s the earliest photograph of space, colorized, from over White Sands NM, in February, 1949:

https://is.gd/jYsOAL

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (bIzDl)

233 Her inability to even articulate what it is she's supposed to be doing has quite a few people asking this very question.

I doubt she'll be around this time next year if the lawfare the administration is withering under isn't quelled. Like yesterday.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)

No, no, I was told she was a bulldog and any criticisms of her is off limits. She's doing an excellent job.

Also, on an unrelated note, where are those Epstein files we were promised "BY THIS WEEKEND" months ago?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

234 Tesla sells the worlds most popular car. Model Y. Not the most popular EV, the most popular CAR. Tesla just changed over 3 factory production lines to a new version. They took a sales hit on the changeover, but all of the old models were sold. Now they are ramping back up with the new version.

Posted by: krennik at April 24, 2025 01:03 PM (T0tPD)

235 216 Why are doomed to failure at the DOJ?

Why is Trump's agenda able to be shut down by judicial activism and judge shopping?

They knew this was likely to happen cause it happened last time.

Unless the tides turn in the SC, Trumps agenda is both DOA and being reversed.

Every ruling seems to be shutting him down and forcing the WH to reverse course.

And with a liberal majority in the SC, this isn't going to change, is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA
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Trump is actually sandbagging the courts and makes it more likely to win in the court of public opinion. He is using a broad front strategy to attack the Deep State and in the end, just like the courts tried to resist FDR, they are going to get rolled because they are losing public support with every 20-80 decision they make.

It is a political war as much as a legal fight and to win you gotta have public support for what you are doing when you cross the Rubicon.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:03 PM (ctrM5)

236 Musque.

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2025 01:03 PM (g47mK)

237 Tesla batteries are fickle in colder climates. Some part of the charging energy goes into the battery heating circuits. Also, the batteries are liquid cooled so some sort of pump runs when they are being charged and discharged in warmer climates. It's shit tech.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (/U5Yz)

238 230 Sigh.

The law that created DOGE under Obama has a time limit. He cannot stay at the place longer than a certain amount because of that law. He's not backing off because of loons burning Teslas.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (2VST1)

Czars don't need Senate Confirmation.... appoint him as the Grand Czar of DOGEyness...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (QAkQ3)

239 Unless you can point to evidence that Musk was instrumental in getting this system set up, that's just good business.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 12:56 PM (ExV1e)

He was instrumental in setting it up, but are you saying it’s just good business to collect welfare checks or sell $200 hammers to the Pentagon, as long as you didn’t set the system up?

What about all of the NGOs grifting off USAID? Hey, they just took the money, they didn’t create USAID.

Pfizer never mandated clotshots, that was the Federal government. They just massively profited from selling a government-mandated, taxpayer-subsidized product.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (/dDa4)

240
What the Greens don't understand, is that when you refine oil, into Gasoline, it already has a large energy content... you are using energy that is already IN the oil.

Electric or even Hydrogen? You must produce the energy in another form... they only STORE energy, don't really CREATE the energy.... so you have to get that energy from somewhere....

They leave out that part...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 01:00 PM (QAkQ3)

Yes. As my Thermodynamics 101 prof hammered into us, the First Law of Thermodynamics in simple English is: Rate of Creation of Energy Equals Zero.

Posted by: Gref at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (aBgBM)

241 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA

Right now she's watering outdoor plants in her bathrobe.

Posted by: some Moron with a drone at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (v0R5T)

242 Can Illinois get him extradited from another State for a "political" crime like that?

States can extradite prisoners from another state, it happens all the time, but it has to be for crimes they committed in that state. Like a robber goes on a 5 state spree, and gets caught in a sixth.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:05 PM (2VST1)

243 The Left loves their progroms and agitators.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2025 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

244 241 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA

We can say the same thing about Kash Patel...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:05 PM (VE6XX)

245 Czars don't need Senate Confirmation.... appoint him as the Grand Czar of DOGEyness...

Yeah but he only ever intended to be in that position temporarily anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (2VST1)

246 Elon Musk was always only going to be involved with the government and DOGE for 100 days.... as a temporary consultant......... they ALL said so from the beginning....... so the 100 days are about up and he is doing exactly what he said he would......... scaling back an leaving.......

Posted by: Monica at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (kfQcw)

247 222 Trump now has the lowest 100 day approval (44%) of the last five presidents according to Fox News.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Fox polling is and has been uniformly awful over the years because their political director of that is Deep blue. Ignore it or only use it for trend analysis.

Rassmussen had him in the 50's at an all time high just a couple of days ago.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (ctrM5)

248 @Breaking911 4m
BREAKING: A judge has temporarily halted the White House’s push to end diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in K-12 public schools - AP

Posted by: Perfect Strangers at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (mlg/3)

249 241 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA

Right now she's watering outdoor plants in her bathrobe.
Posted by: some Moron with a drone

Is she wearing anything under the robe? Asking for friend.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (/U5Yz)

250 3. Won't have runaway thermal fires! (this really should be first)
Posted by: WisRich at April 24, 2025 12:36 PM (G0vdT)

Unlike gasoline, which as we all know never, ever, ever catches fire.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 24, 2025 12:37 PM (W5ArC)

Yeah, but ICE vehicles don't spontaneously combust. Ever.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 24, 2025 01:07 PM (ClxgD)

251 The President's idea of fun for the day:

https://tinyurl.com/fj3xwac6

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:07 PM (Kjgs1)

252 >>> 222 Trump now has the lowest 100 day approval (44%) of the last five presidents according to Fox News.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (/U5Yz)

Thank you for your Concern.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (Vqx30)

253 240
What the Greens don't understand, is that when you refine oil, into Gasoline, it already has a large energy content... you are using energy that is already IN the oil.

Electric or even Hydrogen? You must produce the energy in another form... they only STORE energy, don't really CREATE the energy.... so you have to get that energy from somewhere....

They leave out that part...

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2025 01:00 PM (QAkQ3)

Yes. As my Thermodynamics 101 prof hammered into us, the First Law of Thermodynamics in simple English is: Rate of Creation of Energy Equals Zero.

Posted by: Gref at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (aBgBM)

I like how I once saw the laws summarized:

You're in the game.
You can't win.
You can't break even.
You can't quit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

254 I took a look at the Tesla web site. The only car model which shows a tax credit is the model Y.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 01:02 PM (tT6L1)

Which is the best-selling vehicle model on Earth, and third- or forth-best selling in the US.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (/dDa4)

255 Number one being that we still, a billion dollars later, lack charging infrastructure and batteries that last in all climates.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (2sg1c)

My sister showed up at my house last week driving a VW electric car. They put a charger in their house, and they say they can drive from Nikiski to Knik and back on one charge. Except they also bought a condo in Anchorage and put a charger in there, too, which says they charge it up on the way home.

Charging isn't instant. Distances in Alaska are long. Winters are cold. I suspect they still drive the old car in the winter. It just doesn't pencil out.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (a4NoL)

256 248 @Breaking911 4m
BREAKING: A judge has temporarily halted the White House’s push to end diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in K-12 public schools - AP
Posted by: Perfect Strangers at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (mlg/3)

I'm waiting for a judge to rule Trump must stop breathing....

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (VE6XX)

257 “Terrorism works. Duh.”
— AQ, ISIS, CAIR, HAMAS

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (Hkcdp)

258 Looks like Pam discovered Jeff Sessions' bottle of Nyquil in a storage closet.

Posted by: Bulg at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (77rzZ)

259 I think there's a happy place we can find between

PAM BONDI IS DOING NOTHING IF SHE IS NOT IN THE HEADLINES EXECUTING PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE EVERY DAY

and

TRUST THE SYSTEM PAM BONDI IS KWEEN!!!!

Its only been a few weeks, we need to see what comes of the work which takes months or years to come to fruition. She's not doing nothing, but I do wish she'd be more aggressive and up front about doing things we need to see to have some hope or confidence.

Personally I don't think there's any hope, that this is all a distraction as the building collapses, but who knows, maybe she can get some good done. Bashing her every day for not showing up in a super suit and saving the world doesn't exactly accomplish anything, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (2VST1)

260 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.

It's not going too well for Hamas.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (2ocoG)

It works pretty well in jurisdictions that routinely elect and re-elect Soros prosecutors and judges.

Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (rj6Yv)

261 Katy Perry “Regrets” Blue Origin Space Flight as She Continues to Face Massive Backlash
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

If she's an astronaut, then a 3 year old in a Little Tykes car is a NASCAR driver!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (VNX3d)

I would never regret a ride like that. What I would regret is making it a massive media event and then making false claims of prestige afterwards. It was her choice and she chose......poorly.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (g8Ew8)

262
New game

Where's Bondo

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (sBjls)

263 I think there's a happy place we can find between

PAM BONDI IS DOING NOTHING IF SHE IS NOT IN THE HEADLINES EXECUTING PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE EVERY DAY

and

TRUST THE SYSTEM PAM BONDI IS KWEEN!!!!

Its only been a few weeks, we need to see what comes of the work which takes months or years to come to fruition. She's not doing nothing, but I do wish she'd be more aggressive and up front about doing things we need to see to have some hope or confidence.

Personally I don't think there's any hope, that this is all a distraction as the building collapses, but who knows, maybe she can get some good done. Bashing her every day for not showing up in a super suit and saving the world doesn't exactly accomplish anything, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (2VST1)

That happy place is spankings.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (i24o9)

264 The Gov employee who just got a wrist slap for keying Teslas better be careful where he eats for awhile.

Public shaming it is.
Posted by: Francis at April 24, 2025 12:28 PM (bbuBP)

Elon should hit him with a civil suit and discover who ordered him to do it.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (n7h9X)

265 251 The President's idea of fun for the day:

https://tinyurl.com/fj3xwac6
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:07 PM (Kjgs1)

Just pokin' the bear.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (a4NoL)

266 Where is Pam Bondi?
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Her inability to even articulate what it is she's supposed to be doing has quite a few people asking this very question.

I doubt she'll be around this time next year if the lawfare the administration is withering under isn't quelled. Like yesterday.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 24, 2025 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)

Yep. Even though it's only been a hundred days or so, she should be aware of the 'optics' of being seen to not be doing anything. These are unusual, dangerous times because of the Left's ramping up and times like that call for decisive action. I really, really hope she's not another Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (ClxgD)

267 Katy Perry “Regrets” Blue Origin Space Flight as She Continues to Face Massive Backlash
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

If she's an astronaut, then a 3 year old in a Little Tykes car is a NASCAR driver!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (VNX3d)

I would never regret a ride like that. What I would regret is making it a massive media event and then making false claims of prestige afterwards. It was her choice and she chose......poorly.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (g8Ew

You'd think astronauts would be a bit thicker skinned.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (i24o9)

268 265 251 The President's idea of fun for the day:

https://tinyurl.com/fj3xwac6
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:07 PM (Kjgs1)

He better be recording it...

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (VE6XX)

269 You people are so impatient. Trump just hitting 100 days in office. His cabinet picks even a shorter amount of time. They have to wade through 4 years of obfuscation and destruction of documents. It is also no wonder that Trump's ratings are falling as the medicine he is dishing out is causing a lot of stock market angst. But, better to get it out of the way sooner rather than later. he is forcing the Court's hand now. He is closing down agencies and programs and this will get solidified in the next budget cycle.
Take a breath. Give it time.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

270 More evidence that violence works.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 24, 2025 01:11 PM (f1kZG)

271 Electoral polls are narrative shaping crap but definitely believe the other polls.

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 01:11 PM (sBjls)

272 It won't work or make a difference. Not until Musk completely steps away from DOGE. Even then it will take a while.

The best way to deal with a bully is to punch them. These filthy little terrorists need to be arrested, charged, and penalized. Tell them "bleep you" and DOGE continues but this time we crank it up to eleven.

Posted by: Rick67 at April 24, 2025 01:11 PM (38Xd9)

273 You people are so impatient.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

What do you mean by you PEOPLE?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:11 PM (i24o9)

274 It struck me today that the women who flew in that penis-shaped spacecraft were symbolically semin.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 24, 2025 01:11 PM (kTd/k)

275 Take a breath. Give it time.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

But I already lit my hair !

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (VE6XX)

276 251 The President's idea of fun for the day:

https://tinyurl.com/fj3xwac6

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:07 PM (Kjgs1)

I find that hard to swallow when thinking of Jimmah Carter...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

277 This chick wants law and order.

https://shorturl.at/q4LYO
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence

To be honest, sometimes I feel that way. Like when I see cars without a front plate or having totally blacked out windows, including the windshield. Both are illegal in my state. But then I take a deep breath and think of the other ways I'm breaking the law in some fashion and figure it evens out.

But I do consider drivers who don't signal rude. I mean, is it a flex when they don't? Are they trying to evade some invisible follower so they don't want to telegraph their get away route?

Posted by: haffhowershower at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (144I4)

278 But I already lit my hair !

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (VE6XX)

lol, well carry on then.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (i24o9)

279 Tesla LOL!!!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/mrxbysvx

LOL!!!!! LOL!!!!! LOL!!!!!!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (Kjgs1)

280 273 You people are so impatient.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

What do you mean by you PEOPLE?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:11 PM (i24o9)

Given we're just past Easter, Youze Peeps.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2025 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

281 That happy place is spankings.

"A spanking! A spanking!"
--The sisters of Castle Anthrax

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (2VST1)

282 I think musk‘s big problem though is it was mostly California liberals that bought Tesla cars, so if that crew boycotts you it’s going to make a dent in sales.
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Per Copilot, Tesla owners by state:
California: 366,000
Florida: 62,200
Texas: 52,600
Washington: 43,400
Other states have fewer Tesla owners.

Holy crap, I had no idea how out of balance it was.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (mmNvG)

283
If you go back far enough, Trump and Musk were alright with the left 'cause they said the right things.

That changes, and you gotta stay on top of what's crazy or lil Hogg will come after you.

Posted by: Auspex at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (j4U/Z)

284 If you want to war below the table that can be arranged.

Got a whole department just for that.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (J8LnB)

285 Nope. And if Trump's not willing to go full Andrew Jackson on the courts, or at least make SCOTUS believe he would, then...

Well, we'll see.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Gotta apply the groundwork first. Essentially putting the judiciary under siege and he is making the judges do some really stupid and partisan shit now just like the dunce judge ruling that the mayor of NYC cannot 'help' ICE. It is going to fail hard because it is unenforceable and make the mayor a 'hero'

Judiciary, as the strutting peacocks that many trial judges are, has never learned what political branches have--you can make all the laws or rulings you want but in the end, if you ain't got the real power to enforce it, you got nuttin.

At the end of the day, even wiser Supreme Court justices in the past have recognized that their rulings must be able to persuade multiple audiences that their rulings are correct. Otherwise, they will be ignored.

See Gerald Rosenberg's Hollow Hope book about judicial orders during the segregation era. In the end, Congress ended segregation by denying school funds to segregated school systems that ended it, not court orders.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5)

286 >>> 156
==
What does it say when Irish society pontificates that this group is 'on the right side of history' as they praise a neo-Nazi, all while viciously targeting a woman for calling this out?

It is time for the 'silent majority' to speak up. Because, as it stands, you are complicit in this hatred and extremism continuing to take hold here.

Náire. That is how I feel being Irish these days. Shame.
8:44 AM · Apr 22, 2025
=====

No Irish.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 24, 2025 12:48 PM (RIvkX)

Anyone using the commie phrase "right side of history" is an idiot and/or a commie.
These days the Irish, or certainly their woketard "leaders", are looking about as Catholic as Pope Frankie.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (Vqx30)

287 201 Oh look, another Federal King has decided that schools don't have to follow non-discrimination laws so long as they are discriminating against whites and dressing it up as "diversity, equity and inclusion."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2025 12:55 PM (mmNvG)
_____

I can't find this in the news. But, assuming the judge is white, I hope this ruling ends up literally biting zher in the ass.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (Dv3i1)

288 Take a breath. Give it time.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (t/2Uw)

But I already lit my hair !

It'll grow back. Trust me.

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (s8j++)

289 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (/dDa4)

Back in the 70's in Beirut, the same terrorist organization (I forget which one--the PLO maybe?) that had tortured and murdered the US CIA section chief also kidnapped a member of the Soviet consulate and (probable) KGB operative. The Russians responded by finding, torturing, and killing in the most horrible ways imaginable everyone even remotely involved, as well as their immediate family members, with promises to find and murder the rest of their families down to the most distant cousin if their guy wasn't returned. The 'diplomat' was returned alive and unharmed.

I'm not advocating torture and murder. We're not Beirut 1973. I am advocating a tit-for-tat, take no prisoners response. You as a corporate entity or political figure tacitly support attacking Tesla? Okay, let's see what can legally be done using the power of the federal government to cripple (and ideally destroy) those businesses and donors allied with you.

Posted by: troyriser at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (DPeYO)

290 Even with the on again-off again pauses and deferrals, the US Treasury Department reported taking in $15B in customs duties over the last reported 30 day period.

Posted by: mrp at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (rj6Yv)

291 Its only been a few weeks, we need to see what comes of the work which takes months or years to come to fruition. She's not doing nothing, but I do wish she'd be more aggressive and up front about doing things we need to see to have some hope or confidence.

Personally I don't think there's any hope, that this is all a distraction as the building collapses, but who knows, maybe she can get some good done. Bashing her every day for not showing up in a super suit and saving the world doesn't exactly accomplish anything, either.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:09 PM (2VST1

I would like to at least hear some updates about how the work is going. Every day, Trump loses in the courts. It's making people assume what he's done is all illegal because he keeps getting shut down by these judges.

We all know the truth but the public perception is that Trump is just hot air. Came out fast and hard and has punched himself out in the first round.

Now the court is landing body blows and the ref is staring at the ring girl.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (2sg1c)

292 If the Tesla thing works, why has it faded from the news? Why are the attacks going away?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (2VST1)

293 {{{you PEOPLE}}}

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (t/2Uw)

294 I really, really hope she's not another Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 24, 2025 01:10 PM (ClxgD)

She's not. She's worse.

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (sBjls)

295 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

BREAKING: U.S. Tariff Revenues Hit Record $15 Billion in April, Surging Over 60%

https://tinyurl.com/yscp4rb9

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2025 01:14 PM (NpAcC)

296 It'll grow back. Trust me.
Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson

EEE-HEEE~!
* foot spin *

Posted by: Perfect Strangers at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (mlg/3)

297 Elon Musk was always only going to be involved with the government and DOGE for 100 days.... as a temporary consultant......... they ALL said so from the beginning....... so the 100 days are about up and he is doing exactly what he said he would......... scaling back an leaving.......
Posted by: Monica at April 24, 2025 01:06 PM (kfQcw)

Plus, he's got a huge candle to light coming up this next month.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (g8Ew8)

298 I would like to at least hear some updates about how the work is going. Every day, Trump loses in the courts.

Yeah but she gets chewed out for showing up to news programs and doing just that. I mean yeah it would be great to get more good news about progress but it gets buried. And Trump is not losing in courts, he's getting delayed by activist judges: NONE of these cases have gone to court yet, just stays and injunctions.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (2VST1)

299 273 You people are so impatient.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
=======
Combination of anxiety, battered Conservative syndrome, and those that are getting their ox gored either muh principles or losing jobs, contracts, etc. from teh new order.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

300 > If the Tesla thing works, why has it faded from the news? Why are the attacks going away?
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Because Musk is leaving DOGE. Thus, DOGE will shrivel up and die. The left believing they've "won." Whatever.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (Q4IgG)

301 Per Copilot, Tesla owners by state:
California: 366,000
Florida: 62,200
Texas: 52,600
Washington: 43,400
Other states have fewer Tesla owners.

Holy crap, I had no idea how out of balance it was.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (mmNvG)

I think Teslas are mostly owned by rich liberals and tech nerds who think they'll get girls.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)

302 Indiana judge lets murder suspect walk because of "staffing crisis" at prosecutor's office

An Indiana judge dismissed a murder trial because of a 'staffing crisis' at the prosecutor's office - as the victim's family still waits for justice 20 years after the killing.

Kevin Maddox, accused of fatally shooting 20-year-old Chad Rouse during a 2006 botched robbery, was released from jail after Howard County Superior Court Judge William Menges abruptly dismissed the case Tuesday just as it was set to kick off.

Menges' order cited the Howard County Prosecutor's office's hectic trial schedule, 'staffing crisis' and the fact it was 'overburdened with pretrial motions on the eve of trial.'

-
1. Justice delayed.
2. Justice denied.
3. Profit!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (L/fGl)

303 He was instrumental in setting it up, but are you saying it’s just good business to collect welfare checks or sell $200 hammers to the Pentagon, as long as you didn’t set the system up?

What about all of the NGOs grifting off USAID? Hey, they just took the money, they didn’t create USAID.

Pfizer never mandated clotshots, that was the Federal government. They just massively profited from selling a government-mandated, taxpayer-subsidized product.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 01:04 PM (/dDa4)

1. I don't believe that Musk was involved in setting up the system. Cap-and-trade was first proposed between 1967 and 1970, before Musk was even born. The Democrats were agitating for it since the late 1990s.
2. What he's doing isn't "collecting welfare checks" of "selling $200 hammers to the Pentagon". He's providing an opportunity for other car makers to produce profitable, gasoline powered vehicles while keeping the government off their backs. No doubt the politicians expected their cousins so et up some scam business to grab the money ala Al Gore's tree farms.

I'd say more but I've hit the Pixy limit. It's a bad system but it isn't Musk's fault.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (ExV1e)

304 285 Nope. And if Trump's not willing to go full Andrew Jackson

OT: I watched the Jackson Magnolia tree being cut down in front of the WH. The tree was diseased and just about dead. Trump replaced it with a MAGAnolia.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (/U5Yz)

305 BREAKING: President Trump just sidestepped a judge’s order attempting to block the deportation of illegal gang members by the DHS to countries like El Salvador. Trump deported them through the DOD instead, stating the judge’s order only applied to the DHS.

CHECK MATE!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (t/2Uw)

306 Which is the best-selling vehicle model on Earth, and third- or forth-best selling in the US.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 01:08 PM (/dDa4)
--------------

Okay, and? What's your point? Tax credits are the only reason the car sells? So, are you then claiming a $7,500 tax credit on a Trabant would make the car more palatable to the general public?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (tT6L1)

307 At the end of the day, even wiser Supreme Court justices in the past have recognized that their rulings must be able to persuade multiple audiences that their rulings are correct. Otherwise, they will be ignored.

See Gerald Rosenberg's Hollow Hope book about judicial orders during the segregation era. In the end, Congress ended segregation by denying school funds to segregated school systems that ended it, not court orders.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:13 PM (ctrM5

I feel like you've got too much confidence in the SC. The same court that bailed out Obama Care for the President.

These judges are no different just because their robes are fancier.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (2sg1c)

308 I don’t get the negativity about Elon Musk, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel etc here…. The Trump admin is less than 100 days old, cabinet appointees have been in their jobs less than that

Are these people perfect? No of course not but 2.0 is already much better than 1.0… and 1.0 was pretty good.

Be mad at the lawless courts, not at the people on our side

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (ZtAny)

309 Per Copilot, Tesla owners by state:
California: 366,000
Florida: 62,200
Texas: 52,600
Washington: 43,400
Other states have fewer Tesla owners.

Holy crap, I had no idea how out of balance it was.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

EVs have a narrow window of temperatures they work well in. I doubt many are in Minnesota.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (lTGtQ)

310 You people are so impatient.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
=======
Combination of anxiety, battered Conservative syndrome, and those that are getting their ox gored either muh principles or losing jobs, contracts, etc. from teh new order.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

Or its just the way some people are. Eyores gotta eyore and not in private.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (VofaG)

311 Out:

MAGA hats.

In:

https://tinyurl.com/b7rrn286

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (Kjgs1)

312 I don’t get the negativity about Elon Musk, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel etc here…. The Trump admin is less than 100 days old, cabinet appointees have been in their jobs less than that

A lot of people seem manic depressive here, they're either dipping their bits in pudding wildly celebrating or setting their hair on fire convinced we're all doomed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (2VST1)

313 244 241 Where is Pam Bondi?

Posted by: AlaBAMA

We can say the same thing about Kash Patel...
Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2025 01:05 PM (VE6XX)

———-

True

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (Vh9CX)

314 "Just make it in America and you don't get tariff'd" was the biggest joke of this whole cockup.

Posted by: Defenestratus

They aren't getting 100% of the vehicle created here, and that is easily proven since they are all ISO 19001 certified to control their suppliers and just in time inventory. Serves them right for following in the footsteps of asshole MBAs like Mitt Romney and offshoring American middle class jobs. So fuck 'em. Especially if it hurts the damned euro-wienies

I cannot be the only person thinking this.

Posted by: BifBewalski at April 24, 2025 01:18 PM (MsrgL)

315 Out:

MAGA hats.

In:

https://tinyurl.com/b7rrn286

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (Kjgs1)

Holy cow. Don't show that to the turn signal ticket lady.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:18 PM (i24o9)

316 EVs have a narrow window of temperatures they work well in. I doubt many are in Minnesota.

Yeah the limited range and slow recharge influences purchases as well. Plus, Teslas are almost exclusively the purchase of leftists.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:19 PM (2VST1)

317 17 Nobody ever wants to admit it, but terrorism works.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 24, 2025 12:25 PM (/dDa4)

We United Germany under the SED! We are proof that what you say is true!

Posted by: Red Army Faction at April 24, 2025 01:19 PM (8jn+t)

318 She's not doing nothing, but I do wish she'd be more aggressive and up front about doing things we need to see to have some hope or confidence.

Given the fact that some judge, somewhere, immediately issues a TRO if Trump requests a Diet Coke, being more aggressive and up front about doing things would just get tied up in still more legal shenanigans which would have all the same people who bitch about her every day bitching about the fact that she's adding to the problems.

Some people just want to complain.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 24, 2025 01:20 PM (ExV1e)

319 27: missed last November I see.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 24, 2025 01:21 PM (8jn+t)

320 Nood.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 24, 2025 01:21 PM (i24o9)

321
A lot of people seem manic depressive here, they're either dipping their bits in pudding wildly celebrating or setting their hair on fire convinced we're all doomed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2025 01:17 PM (2VST1)

I get that. But some of the folks here don't seem to be watching the news where the SC and the judiciary across this country are emboldened and issuing injunction after injunction.

Trump is getting pummeled right now and I've yet to hear anything from the WH except for Trump screaming on Truth Social about how unfair it is.

Where the hell is the army of lawyers demanding to be heard at the doors of the SC? How much longer is this going to be tolerated?

What groundwork is necessary? Don't these people own a copy of the Constitution? I'm sure I've got a copy they can borrow.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 01:21 PM (2sg1c)

322 When you ask your Tesla to take you somewhere you've never been before, you might get roasted.

http://tiny.cc/6ujh001

Posted by: bonhomme at April 24, 2025 01:22 PM (lIio7)

323 298 I would like to at least hear some updates about how the work is going. Every day, Trump loses in the courts.

Yeah but she gets chewed out for showing up to news programs and doing just that. I mean yeah it would be great to get more good news about progress but it gets buried. And Trump is not losing in courts, he's getting delayed by activist judges: NONE of these cases have gone to court yet, just stays and injunctions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
=====
Yep. Bondi is the public face of the DoJ apparently while her assistant chief is apparently running the place. The solicitor general's office is running the Scotus matters. Lots of lefty career attorneys have left and SG Sauer was the one that successfully argued the presidential immunity case last year. Now appointed a strong deputy who was also a Scalia clerk.

Civil Rights Division has been depleted of its leftists by Harmeet Dhillon (chief of the CRD now) as Bondi, etc. are defumigating decades of sabotaging leftist attorneys in the DoJ. Law specific news like Above the Law are full of how awful losing these 'career' attorneys is.

Movement is happening and very quickly by historical standards.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:22 PM (ctrM5)

324 Biden's Dog I want one

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2025 01:23 PM (aHfB6)

325 Why are doomed to failure at the DOJ?

Why is Trump's agenda able to be shut down by judicial activism and judge shopping?

They knew this was likely to happen cause it happened last time.

Unless the tides turn in the SC, Trumps agenda is both DOA and being reversed.

Every ruling seems to be shutting him down and forcing the WH to reverse course.

And with a liberal majority in the SC, this isn't going to change, is it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (2sg1c)

Calm down, Trump is playing nice but he's not conceding any points. At some point Roberts is going to have to crush out this nonsense, or his mythical 'norms' will be gone. The cockroaches are scattering and everyone can see it.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 01:24 PM (n7h9X)

326 Hopefully Bondi is just not telegraphing the hundreds of indictments she's preparing.
SURPRISE
But then, I'm an optimist.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2025 01:24 PM (v0R5T)

327 I get that. But some of the folks here don't seem to be watching the news where the SC and the judiciary across this country are emboldened and issuing injunction after injunction.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 12:58 PM (2sg1c)

Its the same half dozen judges and they haven't won any of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 01:25 PM (n7h9X)

328 I'm afraid Trump is not required to tell us immediately how he plans on responding to enemy actions as they are occurring. Im also sure Trump is well aware of what's going on.

Better to sit back and let the process that you or I have no control over play out rather than bring others down or get worked up about what you perceive.

Hoping for the best but preparing for the worst is always good advice.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 24, 2025 01:31 PM (VofaG)

329 BREAKING: President Trump just sidestepped a judge’s order attempting to block the deportation of illegal gang members by the DHS to countries like El Salvador. Trump deported them through the DOD instead, stating the judge’s order only applied to the DHS.

CHECK MATE!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (t/2Uw)

He can work down to the Post office. How many departments does the government have.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 01:32 PM (n7h9X)

330 What groundwork is necessary? Don't these people own a copy of the Constitution? I'm sure I've got a copy they can borrow.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

What you see in the news is NOT what is happening in the courts. When I taught, legal reporting that students read out of class had to be almost constantly corrected in class from the egregious errors that media has in stories. Essentially, legal reporting is on par with the Nation's or Rolling Stone's reports on economic mattters.

Read the actual orders and briefs in these cases. In most cases, these are TROs by design because it is very difficult to appeal them. But, 14 days, they expire and then the more difficult task for activist judges happens--they have to find facts on the record to substantiate their ruling on a preliminary injunction. That standard is irreparable harm shown by plaintiff facts provided, they are formally ruled by the court to be likely to prevail which means that the court must have a full adversarial hearing with both sides providing evidence.

In addition, the Trump administration is requiring plaintiffs now to provide bond (see Rule 65(a) for their TROs and preliminary injunctions.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:32 PM (ctrM5)

331 329 BREAKING: President Trump just sidestepped a judge’s order attempting to block the deportation of illegal gang members by the DHS to countries like El Salvador. Trump deported them through the DOD instead, stating the judge’s order only applied to the DHS.

CHECK MATE!
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 24, 2025 01:16 PM (t/2Uw)

He can work down to the Post office. How many departments does the government have.
Posted by: Oldcat
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That is in fact what he can do. TROs and preliminary injunctions only hold the bound parties, not the fed gov as a whole.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:33 PM (ctrM5)

332 I get that. But some of the folks here don't seem to be watching the news where the SC and the judiciary across this country are emboldened and issuing injunction after injunction.

Trump is getting pummeled right now and I've yet to hear anything from the WH except for Trump screaming on Truth Social about how unfair it is.

Where the hell is the army of lawyers demanding to be heard at the doors of the SC? How much longer is this going to be tolerated?

What groundwork is necessary? Don't these people own a copy of the Constitution? I'm sure I've got a copy they can borrow.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 24, 2025 01:21 PM (2sg1c)

There are some good YT channels if you want to watch the process work out and get a balanced perspective on this subject. You have ignored several clear defeats for the obstructionists.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 01:34 PM (n7h9X)

333 Deportations

Bill Clinton: 12.3 million deportations - 0 injunctions

George W. Bush: 10.3 million deportations - 0 injunctions

Barack Obama: 5.3 million deportations - 0 injunctions

Donald Trump: 100 thousand deportations - 30 injunctions

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2025 01:36 PM (aABKF)

334 Read the actual orders and briefs in these cases. In most cases, these are TROs by design because it is very difficult to appeal them. But, 14 days, they expire and then the more difficult task for activist judges happens--they have to find facts on the record to substantiate their ruling on a preliminary injunction. That standard is irreparable harm shown by plaintiff facts provided, they are formally ruled by the court to be likely to prevail which means that the court must have a full adversarial hearing with both sides providing evidence.

In addition, the Trump administration is requiring plaintiffs now to provide bond (see Rule 65(a) for their TROs and preliminary injunctions.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2025 01:32 PM (ctrM5)

Robert Gouleva , Esq has a good Youtube channel where he does read all the filings for both sides (mostly) with commentary tying things together. Its pretty funny.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 24, 2025 01:40 PM (n7h9X)

335 WA governor just signed legislation that gifts down payments averaging $120K to first-time black home buyers.

https://tinyurl.com/f27spcen

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 24, 2025 01:45 PM (paSBy)

336 WA governor just signed legislation that gifts down payments averaging $120K to first-time black home buyers.

https://tinyurl.com/f27spcen
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 24, 2025 01:45 PM

Is there a one-drop rule?

Posted by: toby928 at April 24, 2025 01:51 PM (jc0TO)

337 I think musk‘s big problem though is it was mostly California liberals that bought Tesla cars, so if that crew boycotts you it’s going to make a dent in sales.

Austin, Texas in general, has plenty, see a lot of them on the highway, son owns one, pretty nice car, just glad he gets to charge it up free at Apple

So I do t have to worry about him blowing up at home

5 Teslas down the street from me, live in a loop, or Austin.

Posted by: Gonzotx at April 24, 2025 02:35 PM (nGraA)

338 He's an idiot for giving in. They're not going to stop just because he quits working for Trump. He's forever tainted. They've tasted blood. They need to taste their own before they'll back down. Submitting to them will only make it worse.

Is itca publicly help company? Maybe he has no choice, but it won't make any difference to them. It will forever be a scalp on their belt, and they'll be worse the next time.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at April 24, 2025 03:54 PM (Vvh2V)

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