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Surprise: Hamas Accidentally Mis-Classified Its Fighting-Age Terrorist Casuatlies as Civilian Casualties

Whaaaaa...?

This makes no sense!



Hamas terror outlet quietly cuts Gaza death count, reveals most killed were combat-age men


Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities, and revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males 00 a demographic largely composed of combatants. The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children.

Salo Aizenberg, from the U.S.-based nonprofit HonestReporting, uncovered the changes through a detailed analysis of Hamas' casualty lists. The investigation revealed that 3,400 names, including over 1,080 children, were removed from the group’s March 2025 report after being listed in 2024.

Aizenberg pointed out that the original reports, published by the Hamas-controlled Gaza Ministry of Health, were widely cited by major international organizations, including the United Nations and the International Criminal Court (ICC). "These 'deaths' never happened. The numbers were falsified -- again," he wrote.

The United Nations did not respond to a Fox News Digital request asking if the world body regretted disseminating those numbers in light of the revised figures.

A spokesperson for the Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), which is investigating Israel for war crimes, told Fox News Digital, "We cannot provide comments on matters related to ongoing investigations. This approach is essential to protect the integrity of investigations, and to ensure the safety and security of victims, witnesses, and all those with whom the Office interacts."

David Adesnik, vice president of research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, who has also been tracking the figures, reached a similar conclusion. According to his analysis, "72% of the fatalities between the ages of 13 and 55 are male."

"Even at age 13, there's a major excess of male over female deaths, and the disparity grows with age," Adesnik told Fox News Digital. "If you calculate from age 13 to 59, there's a little more than 15,000 excess men. That gives you an idea of how many are actually fighters."

His analysis showed a striking gender imbalance: at age 13, there are 588 male casualties compared to 385 females; by age 19, the gap widens to 800 males versus 285 females. This trend continues throughout the age spectrum, suggesting a disproportionately high number of male combatant deaths.

Adesnik also highlighted issues with how deaths were recorded. "Significant numbers of names disappear from the list over time. It's like 2,000 names are removed and new ones added," he said.

I'm beginning to question the reliability of the statistics provided by the Hamas Ministry of Health, Propaganda, Jew-Detection and Rooftop Homosexual-Gravity-Testing Laboratories.

Update: Surprising everyone, the French have quickly surrendered to a genocidal army intent on killing Jews.

Posted by: Ace at 05:36 PM




Comments

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1 One man's militia terrorist is another man's civilian terrorist.

Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 10, 2025 05:38 PM (OC2Mq)

2 27th

Posted by: Orson at April 10, 2025 05:38 PM (dIske)

3 ?

Posted by: DanMa'am at April 10, 2025 05:38 PM (8uzBS)

4 Noodled.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 10, 2025 05:38 PM (VNX3d)

5 Hamass is just trying to appear legitimate.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 10, 2025 05:39 PM (/lPRQ)

6 Does that not make them journalists?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 10, 2025 05:39 PM (i24o9)

7 Now, to apologize, every member of Hamas must each eat 1 pound of bacon.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 10, 2025 05:39 PM (VNX3d)

8 But all those AWFLs online said like 50,000 Muslim children were killed. There were memes and everything...

Posted by: brak at April 10, 2025 05:40 PM (/5EhP)

9 I just sitting here reading Canada's latest shot to the foot. Get this....they just adopted California efficiency standards for essential home appliances. So, while Trump is unclogging the holes on shower heads...Canada is plugging theirs's up.

Why would anyone adopt California Green Fantasy legislation and think it's a good idea. I'm thinking the US Embassy Visa desk is going to be busy in Ottawa.

Posted by: Orson at April 10, 2025 05:41 PM (dIske)

10 Before 10/7, the average life expectancy for a male in Gaza was pretty low (40s? 50s?). It probably hasn't improved since then.

Posted by: pookysgirl can't look it up right now at April 10, 2025 05:42 PM (Wt5PA)

11 Massacre in Jenin! (TM)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:44 PM (RIvkX)

12 I think what really matters is the Hamas death toll, regardless of classification.

I mean... my goldfish that identifies as an endangered whale croaked the other day. I flushed it.

Who's the war criminal here?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 10, 2025 05:44 PM (Q4IgG)

13 Nuke em from space.
It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at April 10, 2025 05:45 PM (9INg6)

14 Hamas Lies the same as the Media Lies.

Cit. downstairs

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:45 PM (RIvkX)

15 When is EO allowing full flush - 8 gal - toilets again? Something Canada still has!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 10, 2025 05:45 PM (VphID)

16 We can still call it a genocide though, right?

Posted by: Lost Freshman Columbia Student at April 10, 2025 05:46 PM (lIio7)

17 Yeah yeah. Those Hamas officials are just too smart for our super-genius western media, and keep hoodwinking them into reporting exactly whatever Hamas tells them to.
It's not their fault, the American people are being duped by Hamas.
Straight shooters that the press are.

We can play this same template on every leftist issue the leftist press and mainstream media lie to us about.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (FCbAQ)

18 spokesperson --> spokesman

I hate that lesbian usage of "spokesperson."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (YqDXo)

19 Does that not make them journalists?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 10, 2025 05:39 PM (i24o9)

----------------

"Austere Religious Scholars."

-- The Washington Compost

Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (OC2Mq)

20 F Hamas and F anyone that shills for them.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (RNuBu)

21 12 I think what really matters is the Hamas death toll, regardless of classification.

I mean... my goldfish that identifies as an endangered whale croaked the other day. I flushed it.

Who's the war criminal here?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
_______
Did you krill it?

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (9INg6)

22 Fun Fact: Montreal subway runs on rubber wheels so its super-quiet.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (RIvkX)

23 You'd think they'd be better at using Arabic numerals.

Posted by: DaveA at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (FhXTo)

24

It looks like that helicopter flew apart in midair. The damned rotor flew off in mid flight:
https://tinyurl.com/26ywfmmt

There is a video of the spinning rotor crashing into the Hudson.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 05:48 PM (w6EFb)

25 Taqiyya. It's all good.

Posted by: Hamas at April 10, 2025 05:48 PM (0sNs1)

26 Taqiyya. It's all good.
Posted by: Hamas at April 10, 2025 05:48 PM (0sNs1)

Ham, it's what's for breakfast.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (VNX3d)

27 Must be the same people who followed Biden's mental acuity.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (f1kZG)

28 Israeli Supreme Court rules that Israel has no obligation to provide electricity to Gaza.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (5JBMH)

29 Those are Hindu numerals. The Arabs just stole them.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (VphID)

30
Was that a "Jesus nut" failure on that rotor?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (w6EFb)

31 spokesperson --> spokesman

I hate that lesbian usage of "spokesperson."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (YqDXo)

-------------

Spokeshole is "gender"-neutral.

Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (OC2Mq)

32 Well, journalists repeated whatever numbers Hamas provided without any of the caveats that they would normally place on information received from Israeli sources. That should count for something.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (j08vF)

33 22 Fun Fact: Montreal subway runs on rubber wheels so its super-quiet.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:47 PM (RIvkX)

Are you ... in Montreal?

Posted by: m at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (CQE5S)

34
For Ace: a short message to acknowledge your daily toil for Us. I hope it inspires.

https://is.gd/h9HZyY

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (HokVO)

35 I used to bookmark this kind of stuff and keep it for later when people would bring up silly stuff in social media. But I deleted the folder and forgot about it because it didn't matter what I posted, what the proof was. Nobody changed their minds, nobody learned. It was pointless.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 05:50 PM (RKzci)

36 Islamic rage boy was all the rage for a while. As was "wounded but I got better" casualty guy.

Of course, let's not forget "artfully posed on concrete slabs" death guy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 05:50 PM (tT6L1)

37 "Fun Fact: Montreal subway runs on rubber wheels so its super-quiet.
Posted by: San Franpsycho "


That is a pretty fun fact. Didn't know that was a thing.

Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 05:50 PM (0HaGk)

38 from the previous thread:

206 ABC News:
The helicopter was carrying a pilot, two adults and three children, according to law enforcement sources. The family members were tourists from Spain, sources said.
The chopper -- identified by Federal Aviation Administration as a Bell 206 helicopter -- was on its sixth flight of the day.
Posted by: m at April 10, 2025 05:23 PM (CQE5S)

Posted by: m at April 10, 2025 05:51 PM (CQE5S)

39 It looks like that helicopter flew apart in midair. The damned rotor flew off in mid flight:
https://tinyurl.com/26ywfmmt

There is a video of the spinning rotor crashing into the Hudson.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 05:48 PM (w6EFb)
___________________

DEI Maintenance Inc. strikes again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 10, 2025 05:51 PM (YqDXo)

40 Rasmussen has Trump taking a big hit in his approval rating

https://tinyurl.com/mv57vytk

Posted by: Leupold at April 10, 2025 05:51 PM (4pwAx)

41 Ladies and Gentlemorons, I give you my favorite senator:

Sen. John Kennedy absolutely roasts AOC with EPIC one-liner.

"I think she's the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (RIvkX)

42 Those are Hindu numerals. The Arabs just stole them.

From what I have been able to research, most of the "Arabic innovations" were stolen from India. Those Hindu fellows were clever.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (RKzci)

43 Anyone old enough to walk and hold a weapon in Gaza is a Pali fighter. Act accordingly

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (6TePA)

44 Canada is mostly a third world country with lousy beer, shitty food and terrible hockey teams. We should invite all their farmers and oilfield workers to join our country and leave the rest to their pronouns and Eid dinners.

Posted by: Vengeance at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (nCaYE)

45 Jihadis are listed as civilians, subway guys accidentally butt-poke dead fellow riders. Mistakes were made.

Posted by: Eromero at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (LHPAg)

46 The "Palestinians" agree to a 2 state solution.

First State: Hezbollah
Second State: Hamas

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (f1kZG)

47 "Of course, let's not forget "artfully posed on concrete slabs" death guy."

No love for poignant teddy bear in rubble?

Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 05:53 PM (0HaGk)

48
Rasmussen has Trump taking a big hit in his approval rating

https://tinyurl.com/mv57vytk

Posted by: Leupold



okay, concernbot


Posted by: Soothsayer at April 10, 2025 05:53 PM (HokVO)

49 Not in Montreal no but all the Canada-talk has me reminiscing of my lost youth. I had family there and we visited often.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:54 PM (RIvkX)

50 It looks like that helicopter flew apart in midair. The damned rotor flew off in mid flight:
https://tinyurl.com/26ywfmmt

There is a video of the spinning rotor crashing into the Hudson.

Posted by: publius



That does sound like a Jesus nut failure.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2025 05:54 PM (RNuBu)

51
Hi, I'm Leopold.
I come here every day to express my concern & dismay with Trump.

Posted by: Loeopold at April 10, 2025 05:54 PM (HokVO)

52 There is a video of the spinning rotor crashing into the Hudson.

That explains why it fell like that, because they will autorotate and slow with all the rotors :/

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 05:54 PM (RKzci)

53 Posted by: Leupold at April 10, 2025 05:51 PM (4pwAx)

I totally believe Rasmussen. Totally.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's brother Max at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (42Vb+)

54 Whaa? First the media are lying and now Hamas too?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (L/fGl)

55 49 Not in Montreal no but all the Canada-talk has me reminiscing of my lost youth. I had family there and we visited often.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:54 PM (RIvkX)

Fun facts!

Posted by: m at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (CQE5S)

56 "I think she's the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle."
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM (RIvkX)

Yeah she's the female version of whatever dude is responsible for the sticker on my old lawnmower warning you not to prune trees with it - with a nice a little pictogram of Boy AOC wildly swinging an upside down mower over his head.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (BI5O2)

57 The video seems to show the helicopter splitting apart before it plummeted into the Hudson. The passengers were Spanish tourists

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (6TePA)

58 Teo state formula? Liquid or gas?

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (QSrLX)

59
This is what happens when you let Elon & DOGE fire everyone at the FAA -- helicopters fall out of the sky.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (HokVO)

60 Canada is mostly a third world country with lousy beer, shitty food and terrible hockey teams. We should invite all their farmers and oilfield workers to join our country and leave the rest to their pronouns and Eid dinners.
---------
Wait, I've heard (though never confirmed) that there are quite a few very talented strippers in the Toronto area. We should extend an invite to them as well.

Posted by: Crusader at April 10, 2025 05:56 PM (TN0g+)

61 Rasmussen was very pro Trump the whole election season. Was also very accurate.

Posted by: Leupold at April 10, 2025 05:56 PM (4pwAx)

62 During Trump 1, my plumbing guy showed me what he called a Trump toilet. He poured a gallon bucket full of marbles into the thing and flushed it. All gone. I told him to install one in every bathroom. They’re still there and they still flush.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at April 10, 2025 05:56 PM (FIXtj)

63 59
This is what happens when you let Elon & DOGE fire everyone at the FAA -- helicopters fall out of the sky.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (HokVO)

helicopters fall out of the sky
and they stand there

Posted by: m at April 10, 2025 05:57 PM (CQE5S)

64 meant to post this earlier: definitely presidential material:

The former first lady of the United States -- who has been married to Barack Obama for 32 years - broke her silence on recent divorce rumors, while opening up about decisions that she has made for herself since leaving the White House in 2017.

"The interesting thing is that, when I say 'no,' for the most part people are like, 'I get it, and I'm okay,'" Michelle shared on the April 9 episode of the Work in Progress with Sophia Bush podcast. "That's the thing that we as women, I think...we struggle with disappointing people. I mean, so much so that this year people were...they couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing."

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 10, 2025 05:57 PM (CWTWj)

65 Anyone old enough to walk and hold a weapon in Gaza is a Pali fighter. Act accordingly

Unfortunately this fact of life and rule of war has been destroyed by the modern news reporter.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 05:57 PM (RKzci)

66 Poor family.

Bummer.

Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 05:58 PM (0HaGk)

67 > The video seems to show the helicopter splitting apart before it plummeted into the Hudson.
---------
Maybe it identified as a Pelican... H8rs.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 10, 2025 05:58 PM (Q4IgG)

68 > Canada is mostly a third world country with lousy beer, shitty food and terrible hockey teams.

Something like 90% of the population of Canada lives within 100 miles of the border. Canada is barely habitable.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 10, 2025 05:58 PM (lIio7)

69 I'm the real Leopold, and I'm here to scope things out.

Posted by: Leopoldo at April 10, 2025 05:58 PM (0sNs1)

70 "The interesting thing is that, when I say 'no,' for the most part people are like, 'I get it, and I'm okay,'" Michelle shared on the April 9 episode of the Work in Progress with Sophia Bush podcast. "That's the thing that we as women, I think...we struggle with disappointing people. I mean, so much so that this year people were...they couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing."
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 10, 2025 05:57 PM (CWTWj)
-----------------------

I guess we know where Kamala's speech writer wound up.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 05:59 PM (tT6L1)

71 Anyone old enough to walk and hold a weapon in Gaza is a Pali fighter. Act accordingly


If they run, they are VC.
If they stand still, they are well disciplined VC.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2025 05:59 PM (RNuBu)

72 Every helicopter pilot, in idle moments, considers what disaster might be ‘the one’.

Posted by: Eromero at April 10, 2025 06:00 PM (LHPAg)

73 Man, the government of Canada is crap and the big cities are as stupid big city like the US but I love Canada and Canadian people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 06:00 PM (RKzci)

74 Canada is mostly a third world country with lousy beer, shitty food and terrible hockey teams.
Posted by: Vengeance at April 10, 2025 05:52 PM


I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Peter North, proud Canadian and irregular AoSHQ commenter at April 10, 2025 06:00 PM (0sNs1)

75 70 "The interesting thing is that, when I say 'no,' for the most part people are like, 'I get it, and I'm okay,'" Michelle shared on the April 9 episode of the Work in Progress with Sophia Bush podcast. "That's the thing that we as women, I think...we struggle with disappointing people. I mean, so much so that this year people were...they couldn't even fathom that I was making a choice for myself that they had to assume that my husband and I are divorcing."
Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 10, 2025 05:57 PM (CWTWj)
-----------------------

I guess we know where Kamala's speech writer wound up.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 05:59 PM (tT6L1)

hahahahahaha

Posted by: m at April 10, 2025 06:00 PM (CQE5S)

76 The United Nations did not respond to a Fox News Digital request asking if the world body regretted disseminating those numbers in light of the revised figures.

I'll save you the trouble. No, they don't.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I WAS The Science at April 10, 2025 06:01 PM (lg881)

77 "Something like 90% of the population of Canada lives within 100 miles of the border. Canada is barely habitable.
Posted by: bonhomme"

That's Squatch Country.

Seriously when you Goggle Map that shit I don't even see how the Indians could move around in there.

Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 06:01 PM (0HaGk)

78 I'm just surprised they are changing the story now. My guess is it is more like 98%.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:01 PM (8HNt+)

79
okay, concernbot

https://youtu.be/gt1V61SPI_w

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 10, 2025 06:02 PM (63Dwl)

80 Yeah, that Obama marriage is built on a rock solid foundation of love and respect.

I mean, turkey baster children and husband off sailing while the children are born....if that's not love, what is?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 06:03 PM (tT6L1)

81 Seriously when you Goggle Map that shit I don't even see how the Indians could move around in there.
Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 06:01 PM (0HaGk)

There was a radio show I listened to (James Lileks old show) and in one of the eps, he and a guy are talking about how cold it was (the guy was from North Dakota.) The guy said 'there not much aside from a few barbed wire fences and a couple of sheep between us and the article circle.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:03 PM (8HNt+)

82
https://youtu.be/gt1V61SPI_w
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Classic.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 10, 2025 06:03 PM (HokVO)

83 Hi, I'm Leopold.
I come here every day to express my concern & dismay with Trump.
Posted by: Loeopold
____________

Bugs Bunny Leopold is the best Leopold.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 10, 2025 06:04 PM (Dm8we)

84 If they run, they are VC.
If they stand still, they are well disciplined VC.


He sounds so awful and crazy there, like a murdering monster. But that was a lesson he learned the hard way too many times, lost too many friends. Were they ALL enemies? No, but enough were that he couldn't take the chance.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 06:04 PM (RKzci)

85 It wasn't a mistake, it was Propaganda

Posted by: Skip at April 10, 2025 06:04 PM (ypFCm)

86 Same old shit, over and over. Put out the big lie, it gets trumpeted and endlessly repeated by the propagandists, and thus established as fact in the minds of the suckers.

The 'revision' gets as little play as possible.

The big lie survives as 'fact'.

Posted by: davidt at April 10, 2025 06:04 PM (i0F8b)

87 "It’s critically important that, to the extent you can find anything that gives you the ability to be patient in this extremely dangerous and unprecedented crisis, that you do."

-- Kamala Harris

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 10, 2025 06:05 PM (0sNs1)

88 It's our biggest National Park.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 10, 2025 06:05 PM (dg+HA)

89 re 76: i'll bet they regret that ham ass admitted it. but i think we've all seen the pics of five year olds dressed like freedom fighters

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 10, 2025 06:05 PM (CWTWj)

90 The only question is, and related to the media lying below:

What bigger lie are they hiding that they are admitting to this lie?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 10, 2025 06:06 PM (NwfFc)

91 The Canada I visited as a yout was beautiful. Some of the best trout fishing I've ever experienced. But, also, Canada doesn't have summer so much as bug season.

The deer and horse flies are something else.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 06:06 PM (tT6L1)

92 Bugs Bunny Leopold is the best Leopold.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 10, 2025 06:04 PM (Dm8we)
===

Leopold!
/loud stage-whisper

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 10, 2025 06:06 PM (RIvkX)

93 If they run, they are VC.
If they stand still, they are well disciplined VC.

-------------------

The actor who said this was originally cast as the drill instructor, But Kubrick didn't think he took it seriously enough. The R Lee Ermey went on a 45 minute non stop rant and the rest is history.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2025 06:07 PM (2UnvF)

94 OT: but can someone explain to me the Reformation firearm thing linked over at Insty?

How is that not a rifle?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:08 PM (8HNt+)

95 90 The only question is, and related to the media lying below:

What bigger lie are they hiding that they are admitting to this lie?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 10, 2025 06:06 PM (NwfFc
The terror cells and teenybopper suicide bombers dems imported.

Posted by: Eromero at April 10, 2025 06:08 PM (LHPAg)

96 Was that a "Jesus nut" failure on that rotor?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (w6EFb)

Or possibly a lube failure in the rotor transmission, causing the transmission to seize up solid, and the rotor shaft to shear from torque? The Bell 206 is a damned reliable machine, but they are getting long in the tooth.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:09 PM (8zz6B)

97 [/]How is that not a rifle?

ATF regulations are... curious...

https://youtu.be/VxQr2bJVqPA

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 10, 2025 06:09 PM (RKzci)

98 How is that not a rifle?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:08 PM (8HNt+)
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No rifling. Rifling has a twist rate. The Reformation has straight lands and grooves. So, firearm but not a rifle.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 06:09 PM (tT6L1)

99 21 12 I think what really matters is the Hamas death toll, regardless of classification.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
____________________

I take that position as well. I recall during the first week there was a story about a very old woman they took hostage who was a survivor of the death camps of WW2. They forced her "jokingly" to do a television commercial for a pizza restaurant. Those would be your everyday, innocent Gaza residents.

Posted by: Orson at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM (dIske)

100 I would expect nothing less from France. It is after all a place where a 40 year old tranny seeiced the future preside while he was in HS. Then married him.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM (xHYkz)

101 100

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM (2UnvF)

102 People are way too thin skinned here regarding any bad news.

Posted by: Leupold at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM (4pwAx)

103 It looks like that helicopter flew apart in midair. The damned rotor flew off in mid flight:
https://tinyurl.com/26ywfmmt

There is a video of the spinning rotor crashing into the Hudson.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 05:48 PM (w6EFb)
***

Link requires registration.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 10, 2025 06:11 PM (W/lyH)

104
Not sure why Ace didn't title this: "Now It Can Be Told..."

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 10, 2025 06:11 PM (HokVO)

105 >> Link requires registration.

Not with me with Chrome on Windows running Ublock. Haven't tried it with anything else.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 06:12 PM (w6EFb)

106 Link requires registration.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 10, 2025 06:11 PM (W/lyH
A yankee newspaper.

Posted by: Eromero at April 10, 2025 06:13 PM (LHPAg)

107 The video seems to show the helicopter splitting apart before it plummeted into the Hudson. The passengers were Spanish tourists
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 10, 2025 05:55 PM (6TePA)

Losing the rotor =/= "splitting apart". The intact cabin fell into the river.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:13 PM (8zz6B)

108 "No rifling. Rifling has a twist rate. The Reformation has straight lands and grooves. So, firearm but not a rifle.
Posted by: blake "

The Phil Niekro Special.

Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 06:13 PM (0HaGk)

109 Having a time in NYC, though. Grand Central shut down at rush hour?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 10, 2025 06:13 PM (wBaIH)

110 Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 10, 2025 06:05 PM (0sNs1)

_____________________

I want to see Kamala end up selling shit on the Shopping Channel. "This 2 in 1 tote bag is for toting. It's a 2 in 1 because that what it says here on the card. You can put stuff in it like, well, OH RIGHT, like well, stuff you might need."

Posted by: Orson at April 10, 2025 06:14 PM (dIske)

111 The Phil Niekro Special.
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300 Wins, and 3000 Strikeouts!

Where's Biff Pocoroba?

Posted by: Crusader at April 10, 2025 06:14 PM (TN0g+)

112 These were just casualty experts who were shocked and taken by surprise that the numbers were wrong.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at April 10, 2025 06:15 PM (ziSwF)

113 >> Or possibly a lube failure in the rotor transmission, causing the transmission to seize up solid, and the rotor shaft to shear from torque?

In one of the pictures, showing the rotor just above the helicopter body, it does like a large chunk of something is still attached to the rotor.

In the video of the spinning rotor crashing in the water, I can't make out the chunk. I guess it could've come off during that tumble down, but I don't know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 06:15 PM (w6EFb)

114 Boggles my mind that Hamas terrorists and Gazan civilians invade Isreal, kill civilians indiscriminately and with barbaric cruelty, take hostages and display them as trophies and groups pop up on campuses all over the US chanting free, free Palestine and be general assholes to their fellow students and faculty before even the Israelis did anything retaliatory.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 10, 2025 06:15 PM (j08vF)

115 will no one tell the truth?

Posted by: Francis at April 10, 2025 06:16 PM (bbuBP)

116 "No rifling. Rifling has a twist rate. The Reformation has straight lands and grooves. So, firearm but not a rifle.
Posted by: blake "


What good does that do?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2025 06:16 PM (RNuBu)

117 Re: Insty wtf did Cornell need a Billion dollars.

This is why this is so insane, shitloads of money spent on everything but border control, defense and regulating trade between the states.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:17 PM (8HNt+)

118 We can lament the loss of immense herds of Buffalo roaming the Great Plains and upper Missouri for a number of reasons, but Lewis and Clark reported absolutely huge clouds of “Vurry Trublesome Musquitos” accompanied them, so often in the journals it is routine at times.

Clark reported a large herd of mule deer that was in a heavily emaciated condition, that he attributed to Mosquitos. Sucked all their blood out, basically.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 10, 2025 06:17 PM (q3N/z)

119 First the media Lied about Biden.
Now about Hamas.

I’m starting to think these people are not very trustworthy.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 10, 2025 06:17 PM (xHYkz)

120 I saw one of the videos the attackers uploaded the day of the attack.

Should they still be bombing? I'd still be bombing.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 10, 2025 06:18 PM (pIfcn)

121 OT: but can someone explain to me the Reformation firearm thing linked over at Insty?

How is that not a rifle?


Because it is literally not rifled. The barrel has lands and grooves but they are not spiraled.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 10, 2025 06:18 PM (/y8xj)

122 Posted by: Leupold at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM (4pwAx)

Did I ever tell you how Trump tried to sexually assault me in the men's section of Bergdorf Goodman? It's totally hair raising.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's brother Max at April 10, 2025 06:18 PM (42Vb+)

123 Yes, lube failure can be, how you say, catastrophic.

Posted by: The Paolo at April 10, 2025 06:18 PM (i0F8b)

124 Re: Insty wtf did Cornell need a Billion dollars.

This is why this is so insane, shitloads of money spent on everything but border control, defense and regulating trade between the states.
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That's where our MESSAGING is wrong. We shouldn't cut their federal funding over "antisemitism". We should cut their federal funding because Joe and Mary Sixpack shouldn't have even a single penny of their paycheck sent to an Ivy League school.

The anti-semitism issue is separate, and a matter for *law enforcement*.

Posted by: Crusader at April 10, 2025 06:19 PM (TN0g+)

125 “Vurry Trublesome Musquitos” a




Sounds tuurible.
- Charles Barkley

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 10, 2025 06:19 PM (xHYkz)

126 Because it is literally not rifled. The barrel has lands and grooves but they are not spiraled.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 10, 2025 06:18 PM (/y8xj)

So, the bullet is still put into a spin, right. It is just you have separate, straight lines it has the travel through?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:19 PM (8HNt+)

127
Link requires registration.
Posted by: Diogenes

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It's on the Daily Mail homepage.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 10, 2025 06:19 PM (+KY4Y)

128 Or across.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:19 PM (8HNt+)

129 i see on fox biz news that gm is laying off 200 workers at an ev plant. trump should resign for causing this

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 10, 2025 06:20 PM (CWTWj)

130 Start spreading the newwwwwws....I'm leaving today;
I want to be a part of it: New York, New York;
Screwing a corpse, It sure isn't gay;
Copter crashing the heart of it: New York, New York;

(might need a little work MOAR cowbell?)

Posted by: Orson at April 10, 2025 06:20 PM (dIske)

131 And they are still being too generous by saying the excess male deaths are combat deaths:

The girls and women are just as active.

Who do you think were the main guards of the hostages?
Who do you think are the couriers and lookouts?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 10, 2025 06:20 PM (m7a0V)

132 Link requires registration.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 10, 2025 06:11 PM (W/lyH
A yankee newspaper.
Posted by: Eromero at April 10, 2025 06:13 PM (LHPAg)


Ahh!
Another news story of northern suppression!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 10, 2025 06:21 PM (W/lyH)

133 re 122: the story isn't valid unless he says he can't remember what year it was

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 10, 2025 06:22 PM (CWTWj)

134 So, the bullet is still put into a spin, right. It is just you have separate, straight lines it has the travel through?

Nope, no spin. The point of the thing is basically to slip between the definitions in the law so that it is allowed to have both a short barrel and a shoulder stock without being a SBR. I've observed that some people just seem to derive enjoyment from beating the system.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 10, 2025 06:22 PM (/y8xj)

135 I knew this was happening from the start, as the numbers of casualties of "children" tracked too closely too fast to the estimated size of Hamas itself. Unless the IDF was pushing Hamas to the side to get at the babies, the accidental deaths should have been smaller, and more random that the smooth rise that fit combatant casualties.

Plus they never mentioned Hamas fighter casualties not once.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 10, 2025 06:23 PM (n7h9X)

136 And they are still being too generous by saying the excess male deaths are combat deaths:

The girls and women are just as active.

Who do you think were the main guards of the hostages?
Who do you think are the couriers and lookouts?
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It's literally a satanic society. If Satan were to hand out annual reviews, "Palestine" would be an perennial Honor Roll member and he would offer them no areas of "recommended improvement".

Posted by: Crusader at April 10, 2025 06:23 PM (TN0g+)

137 I suspect that it's accurate "enough" at home defense ranges but not much more than that. Again, I think the main appeal is just to people who like to think that they're Stickin' It To The Man, Man.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 10, 2025 06:25 PM (/y8xj)

138 For the Gazoo women... Send in the Uterus Collector.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 10, 2025 06:26 PM (wBaIH)

139 Update: Surprising everyone, the French have quickly surrendered to a genocidal army intent on killing Jews.

French rifles. Never fired. Dropped once.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 10, 2025 06:26 PM (IifOV)

140 Boggles my mind that Hamas terrorists and Gazan civilians invade Isreal, kill civilians indiscriminately and with barbaric cruelty, take hostages and display them as trophies and groups pop up on campuses all over the US chanting free, free Palestine and be general assholes to their fellow students and faculty before even the Israelis did anything retaliatory.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 10, 2025 06:15 PM (j08vF)

This has been the model just for Israel ever since terrorism chic started up in the 70s and 80s.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 10, 2025 06:26 PM (n7h9X)

141 People are way too thin skinned here regarding any bad news.
Posted by: Leupold at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM (4pwAx)

Some people are way too gleeful about posting anything that might be construed as bad news.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:26 PM (8zz6B)

142 "No rifling. Rifling has a twist rate. The Reformation has straight lands and grooves. So, firearm but not a rifle.
Posted by: blake "

The Phil Niekro Special.
Posted by: eleven at April 10, 2025 06:13 PM (0HaGk)

Technically 0 is a twist rate.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 10, 2025 06:27 PM (n7h9X)

143 If only there was a place to get constant negative news.

Posted by: Francis at April 10, 2025 06:28 PM (bbuBP)

144
French tank transmission have 1 forward gear and 5 reverse. The forward gear is in case they're attacked from behind.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 06:28 PM (w6EFb)

145
AP News: Every death was a Palestinian women, holding a child, holding a baby, holding a puppy, holding a kitten.

Posted by: Frank Barone at April 10, 2025 06:29 PM (IifOV)

146 So, the bullet is still put into a spin, right. It is just you have separate, straight lines it has the travel through?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:19 PM (8HNt+)

No, the bullet does not spin.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:29 PM (8zz6B)

147 French tank transmission have 1 forward gear and 5 reverse. The forward gear is in case they're attacked from behind.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 06:28 PM (w6EFb)

The forward gear is also useful for parades, and going through a tank wash every week to keep it sparkling.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 10, 2025 06:30 PM (VNX3d)

148 And it is hard to get a puppy to hold on to anything.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:30 PM (8HNt+)

149 Why would anyone adopt California Green Fantasy legislation and think it's a good idea. I'm thinking the US Embassy Visa desk is going to be busy in Ottawa.
Posted by: Orson

Canada is known to have nearly no water resources at all. Arid-never rains or snows, no lakes or rivers. I feel sorry for America's Hat.

Posted by: Dust Bowl Blues at April 10, 2025 06:31 PM (G5+As)

150
The French fighter jet is called the Mirage because if you ever see it over a battlefield, you know you're seeing things.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 06:31 PM (w6EFb)

151 ***the French have quickly surrendered to a genocidal army intent on killing Jews.
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That's why they are known as cheese eating surrender monkeys.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 10, 2025 06:32 PM (RrIy1)

152 And it's 1100 - 1600 dollars...

I am missing the point here aside from 'sticking it to the man'. Can these be sold at convenience stores or something?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:32 PM (8HNt+)

153 Why would Hamas correct their numbers now? I don't understand the strategy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 10, 2025 06:32 PM (VofaG)

154 Canada is known to have nearly no water resources at all. Arid-never rains or snows, no lakes or rivers. I feel sorry for America's Hat.
Posted by: Dust Bowl Blues at April 10, 2025 06:31 PM (G5+As)

I can see a lucrative retirement business for me, refurbishing old appliances for resale.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:33 PM (8zz6B)

155 "No rifling. Rifling has a twist rate. The Reformation has straight lands and grooves. So, firearm but not a rifle.
Posted by: blake "


What good does that do?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 10, 2025 06:16 PM (RNuBu)
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No idea, other than it seems to give reasonable accuracy out to 50 yards or so.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 10, 2025 06:33 PM (tT6L1)

156 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:34 PM (8HNt+)

157 No idea, other than it seems to give reasonable accuracy out to 50 yards or so.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
___________

Higher muzzle velocity?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 10, 2025 06:34 PM (Dm8we)

158 I am missing the point here aside from 'sticking it to the man'. Can these be sold at convenience stores or something?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 10, 2025 06:32 PM (8HNt+)

It gets around the NFA ban on "short-barreled rifles", as I undertstand it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:35 PM (8zz6B)

159
Way OT but I'm so mad about it.

Mexico is still dumping sewage right into the Tijuana River, which empties right into the Pacific Ocean just south of San Diego. Navy SEALs getting sick in Coronado, beaches closed because of contamination as far north as La Jolla (maybe Carlsbad, I don't know).

Trump needs to get on that. Invade them, build a sewage treatment plant right on their damn territory with American labor, and occupy it until we trust the crooks to maintain it properly themselves -- which will be never.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 10, 2025 06:35 PM (+KY4Y)

160 Some people are way too gleeful about posting anything that might be construed as bad news.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:26 PM (8zz6B)

+1

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 10, 2025 06:35 PM (VofaG)

161 96 Was that a "Jesus nut" failure on that rotor?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at April 10, 2025 05:49 PM (w6EFb)

Or possibly a lube failure in the rotor transmission, causing the transmission to seize up solid, and the rotor shaft to shear from torque? The Bell 206 is a damned reliable machine, but they are getting long in the tooth.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 10, 2025 06:09 PM (8zz6B)


Another unfortunate incident reinforcing my vow to never voluntarily fly in a helicopter.

Posted by: Gref at April 10, 2025 06:41 PM (aBgBM)

162 Canada is mostly a third world country with lousy beer, shitty food and terrible hockey teams.

Something like 90% of the population of Canada lives within 100 miles of the border. Canada is barely habitable.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 10, 2025 05:58 PM (lIio7)

Wait till global warming makes all that area cropland.....no wait warming BAD BAD

Posted by: Oldcat at April 10, 2025 06:44 PM (n7h9X)

163 101 100
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 10, 2025 06:10 PM


* slides tube of Elizabeth Arden Hand Creme to Duke Lowell *

Posted by: Duke Sussex at April 10, 2025 07:02 PM (0sNs1)

164 Ace!

Your former gf Ashley Puff Face Judd is crying about a former family tragedy in the UK DM. I don't know why as I didn't read or care...which remains how I am for most headlines.

Does she ever stop weeping? This could explain why she's puffy. I should write her.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 10, 2025 07:41 PM (6PCLE)

165 Big fucking deal. The Jews have been labeling typhus deaths as gas chamber victims for 80 years.

Posted by: Padre Escobar at April 11, 2025 07:38 AM (euyey)

166 They are all goat molesters or encouragers of goat molesting.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at April 11, 2025 04:57 PM (bXvrr)

167 Peculiar article, totally what I needed.

Posted by: Major Model Brasil Major Model São Paulo at April 12, 2025 07:19 AM (QzqwF)

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