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Trump Builds the China Tariff Wall Ten Feet Higher While Announcing a "Pause" on Tariffs for Other Countries; Markets Soar
James Madison informs me that the higher tariffs are only paused for countries that didn't retaliate:The 10% pause is for everyone who didn't retaliate. The EU did retaliate. Their tariffs should still be at 35%. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan ReitmanChina retaliated against the US by announcing an 84% tariff on US goods. This is a silly gesture, as China barely buys anything from us. They mostly just steal. Trump trumped China by jacking the China tariff up to 125%.
The White House is clarifying that Trump's announcement of a 90-day tariff "pause" means that the "tariff level will be brought down to a universal 10% tariff" during that time, while "negotiations are ongoing." That respite does not apply to China, which will see U.S. tariffs on its goods rise to 125%.The markets liked the 90-day pause on tariffs for countries other than China.
Dow surges 1,800 points after Trump signals a 90-day pause on tariffsKevin O'Leary says he wants Trump to hit China with a 400% tariff to get Xi on a plane to DC immediately. He says all they do is cheat and steal IP, and it's time to bring them to heel. He says that Xi will be kicked out of office the moment these high tariffs begin to hurt China's economy, so Xi will be forced to make major concessions to Trump. The CNN panel explodes with All the Outrage, obviously.
Stocks surged after President Donald Trump announced a pause in tariffs, causing a market that's been under extreme pressure the last 5 days to explode higher. The S&P 500 gained 6%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 2159 points, or 5.7%. The Nasdaq Composite jumped 8%. Stocks touched their session highs as Treasury yields eased following a strong bond auction. Earlier, yields had risen above 4.5%. The benchmark 10-year Treasury yield was last at 4.4%. China announced it will impose an 84% levy on U.S. goods starting Thursday. This comes after U.S. tariffs of 104% on Chinese imports took effect shortly after midnight. The EU also approved its first set of tariffs on the U.S. set to start April 15.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:13 PM (rxe17)
That's Mandarin swear words.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:13 PM (rxe17)
And sending home Chinese students in US.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:14 PM (Cki93)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2025 02:14 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:14 PM (HYKHz)
After China bends the knee, sue them $1 gazillion for IP theft going back decades.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:15 PM (rxe17)
The EU did retaliate.
Their tariffs should still be at 35%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2025 02:14 PM (Q4IgG)
True. A sizeable number of the commenters here are as well.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (ExV1e)
And Covid release.
I know, something needs to be done about the US participants like Fauci and Dazak. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (Cki93)
I'm enjoying the ride.
Go Trump Go.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)
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China's economy is completely and totally fake and has been for a very long time. You don't build ghost metropolises because you've got it goin' on.
Xi's power isn't about the health of the Chinese economy, it's about terror and power.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
**************
In the illustrious words of the Shia meme,
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???
DOOOOOOO ITTTTTTTTT
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)
I'm enjoying the ride.
Go Trump Go.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)
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If I told you that Trump wants to destroy China because of covid, would you believe me?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)
Is that what you're doing?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (xcxpd)
This is some crazy market manipulation, I gotta say.
Posted by: Grump928
Yeah, I'm not loving the cavalier announcements.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
I would want to.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (p7mbN)
I'm enjoying the ride.
Go Trump Go.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)
Yeah, markets up or down, I am enjoying the ride of a lifetime.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (xcxpd)
What I'm doing? No. I'm typing in a grey box.
That's what Trump campaigned on doing.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM
I happen to be on the very right side of this move but yeah, it's scary crazy.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (MJOSJ)
https://tinyurl.com/jtvkrtr7
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (Cki93)
I know, something needs to be done about the US participants like Fauci and Dazak. . .
Posted by: Lizzy
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I'm also a little grumbly against American companies who stupidly signed contracts with China that gave them valuable IP and then found out -- in the FO sense.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (rxe17)
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It's in Trump's statement.
"At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the days of ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable. Conversely, and based on the fact that more than 75 Countries have called Representatives of the United States, including the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subjects being discussed relative to Trade, Trade Barriers, Tariffs, Currency Manipulation, and Non Monetary Tariffs, and that these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States, I have authorized a 90 day PAUSE, and a substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Grigory Potemkin at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (xCA6C)
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The market was getting very dicey when it looked like that was about to break when Evergrande, the firm behind the ghost cities (I think that was the name) was unable to make payments
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (HYKHz)
Xi's power isn't about the health of the Chinese economy, it's about terror and power.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
The main difference between a democratic republic and a dictatorship is the number of people the leader has to satisfy and keep sweet. A dictator has fewer people to keep happy, but that number is never zero.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (D7oie)
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We're still doubling the price of the Super Switch, round eyes.
Posted by: Nintendo at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Jim Crammer at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (/U5Yz)
china is a Fucking Thief
They steal Everything, then they copy everything. They never pay for patents, they never pay for licenses, and they never pay for intellectual property.
AND they produce and export DISEASE.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:18 PM (GBKbO
Yeah, but Canada did retaliate.
Because Dickheads.
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (jvJvP)
Trump: "Secondary tariffs!"
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (Mx3OA)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (MJOSJ)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:20 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:20 PM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Roller Coaster Sex at April 09, 2025 02:20 PM (ekEaX)
Because Dickheads.
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (jvJvP)
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Because the worse Labour makes Canada, the more popular they get as long as they can blame Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
I recall when Clinton moves satellite tech over to Ron Brown's Dept of Commerce and all that tech was then stolen by the Chinese.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (Cki93)
The EU did retaliate.
Their tariffs should still be at 35%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)
That's how I read it and I hope it's correct. It'd be another slap in the face of the totalitarian asshats in Europe.
I wonder, though, how it works for member nations. I believe Italy is one of the nations looking to negotiate since Meloni isn't an idiot.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (ExV1e)
Better for my sanity 😊❤️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (aQSX6)
No other president would course correct as events dictate.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (p7mbN)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (6TePA)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (2cS/G)
Don't call the, tariffs.
Call it a 'Dickhead Tax.'
Posted by: Stateless...89%
You've been hosed, hosers.
Posted by: Bob, Doug, and Miklos McKenzie at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (RgW1J)
He's the Golden Scalp Weasel
we went from Shit Midas to Legit Midas
Posted by: kallisto at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (dCxaZ)
When, in fact, Trump announced that it's far from over and he's going to gouge out the eyes of everyone who tried to look big against him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
We joke about assless chaps.
Let's stick to drinking....
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Alana at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (t0dbK)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (/U5Yz)
I'm enjoying the ride.
Go Trump Go.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)
I agree.
https://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (MJOSJ)
Posted by: Josephistan at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (bHGBC)
Tariffs go into effect.
Congess screams about doing something to remove the power of the tariff from the president.
Countries fall all over themselves to negotiate with President Trump. Tariffs are immediately lowed.
Congress, once again, finds out they're incapable of keeping up with the moves of the Trump administration.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (42Vb+)
When Japan started producing stuffs, their product was cheap junk. But the Nip's improved quality rather quickly and became the best at making electronics, cars, watches, etc.
china makes Shit, and will always make shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)
I tell ya' horde, I tell ya'. This stock market thing doesn't bother me, not at all. I'm poor you see, so poor,, I'm so poor when my rich aunt died, in the will, I owed her 20 bucks
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (5hfjS)
My Dad worked for a university for a while before his retirement. His university sent him to China to set up a small branch of their business school. The terms the Chinese tried to force on the school were ridiculous.
They wanted to buy one copy of one book one time and get the rights to that book to reprint and sell to all students in perpetuity. They wanted all intellectual rights to all material taught in class after a single, lump sum payment that wouldn't even pay 1/5 of a professor's salary.
There were other terms I'm forgetting now, but it was incredible. The Chinese thought they were being generous by paying a pittance and allowing the school to operate in China.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (lIio7)
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I think they only threatened to retaliate but havent actually followed through on anything yet
They are canadians after all
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (HYKHz)
Using targeted tariffs intended to hit red states.
We should exempt Alberta from our tariffs in response.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
Yes, the majority here ARE THAT retarded.
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (jvJvP)
I'm also a little grumbly against American companies who stupidly signed contracts with China that gave them valuable IP and then found out -- in the FO sense.
I recall when Clinton moves satellite tech over to Ron Brown's Dept of Commerce and all that tech was then stolen by the Chinese.
Posted by: Lizzy
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How about Google.cn?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (rxe17)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)
It's because they are freeloading assholes.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (MGB5H)
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Trump just made what was deemed impossible by most reality.
Posted by: JackStraw
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This.
On trade.
On the border
On DEI/trans/commie agenda
On net zero.
He is running out of dragons to slay.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (Mx3OA)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (MJOSJ)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (GBKbO)
Probably, although I'm of the belief that he'll end up being a more impactful President as a result of the interregnum.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 09, 2025 02:25 PM (42Vb+)
Posted by: TheITGuy2 at April 09, 2025 02:25 PM (+Em2P)
Posted by: Marcus T
The nut doesn't fall far from the Luap Nor tree.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:25 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Orson at April 09, 2025 02:25 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)
It's because they are freeloading assholes.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (MGB5H)
It lets them look tough while doing nothing. See, we're doing something!
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:25 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Issue AOP an exclusive Duty Free license.
Posted by: Miklos, ze probleme she ees sol-ved at April 09, 2025 02:26 PM (RgW1J)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:26 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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wadji go an do that fer, WADJI GO AN DO THAT FER?/!/!1!!
Posted by: Karl Childers at April 09, 2025 02:26 PM (5hfjS)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 02:26 PM (p7mbN)
I know it's a negotiation tactic, but f--- it.
Let the other countries suffer.
Car market is doing great because people want to scoop up something while they still can.
This is a good thing.
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:26 PM (gUzGB)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (MJOSJ)
Asians are creative and can turn a television into a watch.
Posted by: Zombie Reggie White, NFL Hall Of Famer at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (ekEaX)
He caved. 90 Day Pause. He basically lost Trillions in the market and got nothing in return.
I suspect he caved to Wall St., too. Bezos, and all of the others who are getting reamed by this shit have likely been screaming in his ear. Folks shouldn't be surprised when we go through this bullshit again in 90 days.
The conman put a 90 day pause on tariffs on all countries who didn't retaliate. He breaks it, then says I fixed it. Classic trump.
What he has been doing to total market manipulation. He drives the market down with tariffs, his tech bros short everything, make billions. Pauses tariffs, market goes way up. again, his tech bros that are in the know make billons again. This has to be against the law. Where is the SEC on this?
This is how trump normalizes chaos
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (1MSOJ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (p7mbN)
Fun fact about Canadian politics: There is exactly one registered gun rights lobbyist in Canada. She's about as powerless as a mall cop. Nobody takes her calls. Nobody gives her the time of day. Despite this, Trudeau and other Canadian poofs will endlessly gripe about the "powerful gun lobby" in Canada.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (JCZqz)
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Was this dumbass panicking?
Because I wasn't panicking.
I remembered the market losing 25% of its value in autumn 2022 and the world continuing to spin on its axis.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (g47mK)
I think everyone was just settling in and accepting the new reality, and then PDT makes another move.
I liked the idea of enduring a much-needed Market/Trade Correction. Let the dust settle, and rebuild.
But now we just re-inflated The Bubble in, literally, 45 minutes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (A1wUB)
Nick Sortor@nicksortor
President Trump just absolutely OBLITERATED Adam Schiff
"We call him watermelon head. I said, how can that big, fat face stand on a neck that looked like this finger? How could it? It was the weirdest thing. I said, it’s a mystery. Nobody can understand it."
"He's a bad person. A sick degenerate."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (1MSOJ)
Only the unaborted ones....
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: JackStraw
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This.
On trade.
On the border
On DEI/trans/commie agenda
On net zero.
He is running out of dragons to slay.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (Mx3OA)
Let's get our ass to Mars.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (i24o9)
They're probably in credit card debt anyway.
The ultra rich that panic sold can afford it, because they still have millions in cash products.
We live in stupid times.
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (gUzGB)
Get that bubble back up there!
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (F30Ty)
Posted by: Alotta Fagina at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (1MSOJ)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)
It's because they are freeloading assholes.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:24 PM (MGB5H
Yeah, they had / have a good deal here and they know it. They're doing what's in their best interest. Can't fault them for that.
But we need to do what is on our best interest, which is to kick their socialist asses to the curb.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (g47mK)
Xi is not going anywhere.
Posted by: runner
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I for one can't think of a single top Chinese leader (=Secretary of the CCP) who's ever been ousted. Has anyone here?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (rxe17)
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (gUzGB)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (F30Ty)
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We're never going to get back to the idea of the stock market being a reflection of economic reality without an actual crash and reset.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (3447G)
Posted by: Eyeore at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (Kxb1A)
Posted by: Pancreatic Cancer That Xi Insists He Doesnt Have at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt
Mary is SO RIGHT!!!
And Mary, I hope you are better after the tumble you took at the hard cider and tai-chi event at the Unitarian Universalist Community and Islamic Center!
Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (RgW1J)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (MGB5H)
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The ultra rich cause the market moves, initiate the sell off, and then buy at the bottom.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)
Dude. Stop talking sense. It's hurting your brand!
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (F30Ty)
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Issue AOP an exclusive Duty Free license.
Posted by: Miklos, ze probleme she ees sol-ved at April 09, 2025 02:26 PM (RgW1J)
Alberta will likely hold a referendum on independence after the general election.
Posted by: mrp at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (VNX3d)
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My prediction is that the EU is going to renegotiate CETA with Canada. Canada is going to circumvent the Monroe Doctrine by "un-officially" becoming an ad hoc member of the EU. Then, the sour heavy crude of Canada is going to be shipped to China for refining instead of the US. EU gets their petroleum that way no longer relying exclusively on Russia (or as currently, the US). Canada sticks it to the US by cozying up to China (which they already are, the Chinese pop in Canada is massive). China, Canada, and EU focus trade with each other.
You can scoff at the outlandish of it all, but they are all petty, envious, and leaning socialist (all of them)
Posted by: Orson at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (ypFCm)
My sainted mother used to say, "Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope."
Based on the comments since Trump was inaugurated, I reckon she was right.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (6TePA)
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (gUzGB)
I didn't quite time it right, but I am happy.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (g47mK)
IIRC in December 2022 after the election that had the house returning the gop in 2023 the dems passed a stinker of a spending package and needed 60 votes in the senate. Cornyn and Cotton threw in with Murk, Collins and maybe another goper or two to pass it which took the new house out of being able to revise the budget for 10 months.
Did I get that right?
Posted by: DanMan at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (8uzBS)
I recall when Clinton moves satellite tech over to Ron Brown's Dept of Commerce and all that tech was then stolen by the Chinese.
Posted by: Lizzy
Agreed.
But a former boss said: if I don't sell it to them, someone else will. (Military stuff excepted) and keep people employed. Ours was a service type product.
The thought was to bring them into the world market. Communist or not. But again, China has a hundred year plan and we have quarterly readouts.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (FxH7T)
Dude. Stop talking sense. It's hurting your brand!
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (F30Ty)
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Did we agree on something else?
Should I mention Escape from LA to balance the universe?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
And Mary, I hope you are better after the tumble you took at the hard cider and tai-chi event at the Unitarian Universalist Community and Islamic Center!
Posted by: Concerned Woman of Brattleboro
LOL
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (/U5Yz)
When actually he and the Financial Big Brains in his administration have wargamed this entire policy.
Posted by: kallisto at April 09, 2025 02:32 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Miklos, neglected third Duke brother at April 09, 2025 02:32 PM (RgW1J)
But sure Congress should have tariff powers get the fuck out of here with that nonsense
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:32 PM (HYKHz)
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If by "natural" you mean "so long as we can keep inflation sequestered in stocks, we're happy", then yeah, I guess.
Posted by: Methos at April 09, 2025 02:32 PM (Dnobf)
I'm enjoying the ride.
Saw an interview with Scott Bessent last month, and he mentioned that Trump contacted him 2 years ago asking him to come up with a plan to keep the economy afloat while he was doing his Fedgov layoffs/DOGE cuts, which was the hot topic at the time. I have no doubt Bessent was tasked with how to manage the fallout from the trade reset, too.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:32 PM (Cki93)
Mary what color of children ???
Green, Orange, Blue, Violet, Red, Purple, Yellow, Brown or Black will be affected in Crimea located in Ukraine????
Posted by: Alotta Fagina at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (A2iSa)
When, in fact, Trump announced that it's far from over and he's going to gouge out the eyes of everyone who tried to look big against him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)
As an extra bonus, people will eventually get pissed about this and he'll be able to say, TRUTHfully (see what I did there), that it's not his fault the media misrepresented what he said.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (ExV1e)
I can't find it now, but just a couple days ago some DUmmy wrote something like "My 401K lost 20% of its value in the last 2 weeks. Even with a miracle economic recovery, it will be at least 6 months before it recovers!"
Possibly one of the dumbest DU takes I've ever seen...and that's saying A LOT.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (JCZqz)
The Chinese taste in movies doesn't include re-raced and gendered remakes.
Oh, neither does anyone else's.
Posted by: Auspex at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (j4U/Z)
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Hanged not hung! As my Sainted Mother used to say.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (2cS/G)
***********************
First step is to ban high frequency trading
Let actual real people trade in the markets instead of algorithmic bots
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (HYKHz)
I assure you you will live without acting as either.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (LkLld)
Dude. Stop talking sense. It's hurting your brand!
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:30 PM (F30Ty)
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Did we agree on something else?
Should I mention Escape from LA to balance the universe?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)
*thinks about Prometheus*
*thinks about mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better about mentioning Prometheus*
Uh, yeah TJM - mention Escape From L.A. to balance the universe. Yeah, that's it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (5iaUO)
Possibly one of the dumbest DU takes I've ever seen...and that's saying A LOT.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (JCZqz)
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"I lost 20% when the market lost 10%," is not evidence of a good asset mix.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
But now we just re-inflated The Bubble in, literally, 45 minutes.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (A1wUB)
I agree. If the end goal is to improve the domestic US economy and the standard of living for the middle class, then tariffs must stay high.
I don't particularly care if Vietnam is willing to give us a great deal on slave labor produced Nike sneakers.
That deal comes at the expense of potential sneaker factory working people here in the US.
That said, if the goal is to shift production from China to somewhere like Vietnam, while also trying to repatriate industries, I guess I can concede that making a smart political move (moving us away from reliance on China) at the expense of making the smart economic move (moving us away from reliance on everyone else in the world and bringing industry back to the US) might be a fair temporary trade off.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
Don't call the, tariffs.
Call it a '
Posted by: Stateless...89% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:17 PM (jvJvP)
FTFY
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (nXhwP)
How would Trump react -- if at all -- to Chy-na invading and taking over our potential future "51st State?"
Discuss ...
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 02:28 PM (oTMKS)
Chy-nah already owns Canada's Liberal Party, and most of its politicians, like unelected PM Marx Carnage.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Marcus T at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (MJOSJ)
I am on Team Bring the Pain.
There's nothing real about our Economy. We need Interest Rates above 4.5% (well above, imo) before we start to see any tangible improvement.
Driving the market by letting preferred borrowers skim 2-3% is no way to drive production and wages up.
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (F30Ty)
Ponder this. Deeply.
As I have also advised my friends and family, it never was about "tariffs." It was, and still is, about kicking ass on the scale required to bury the statist globalists under a pile of radioactive waste for the next century.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (MkuC5)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 09, 2025 02:23 PM (42Vb+)
The awesome part is when O'Leary says that the tariff on China should be 400% and then goes into why.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Shoofly the Boxing Mule at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (ufJfM)
Mary ate the butter!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (/U5Yz)
A bubble can't be under 8% of the Market.
24k is more realistic.
Posted by: garrett at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (F30Ty)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (LkLld)
The Deep State has been using the US economy for their own geopolitical (and corrupt / grift) purposes for decades.
"We'll let you sell in to the US market if you do what we tell you to do. Also, great news! We're going to give you suitcases full of cash to fund your extravagant lifestyle. 5 suitcases left CIA headquarters, 4 suitcases arrived here today, and you'll be getting 2 suitcases for your effort."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (a1415)
And their filthy Canadian ways
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (wBaIH)
Hopefully that works out now.
I'm happy for that dude. And I'm in a pissy, murderous mood.
Posted by: Stateless...79% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (a1415)
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I go to TEMU for cheap crap, not expensive crap.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (p7mbN)
The cold war against the Soviets was not won with bullets. It was won with economics.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (pZ64F)
horse thieves are hanged, etc etc.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (8zz6B)
Thanks for saving me typing.
Posted by: Stateless...79% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 09, 2025 02:37 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Peter North at April 09, 2025 02:37 PM (Kxb1A)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (a1415)
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I go to TEMU for cheap crap, not expensive crap.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (GBKbO)
Did you hear that a TEMU warehouse burned down? The current estimated loss of products is $75.32.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
As a far Lefty, probably invested heavily in Tesla to save the planet from global warming several years ago, and is now reaping the rewards of her TDS.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at April 09, 2025 02:27 PM (1MSOJ)
Exactly! I was just telling My Beard...uh, I mean my husband, that hard hearted people like Trumpf need to understand the suffering they cause for all the little coloreds around the world and the only way to alleviate it is to give me and my church millions and millions of dollars! Hallelujah and pass the USAID check!
Posted by: Bishopedness Mariann Edgar Budde, Not A Lesbian, Really at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (ekEaX)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (LkLld)
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Didn't work on Gotham.
They had the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needed right then. A silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark knight
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)
@nicksortor
🚨 #BREAKING: President Trump has ripped the potential TikTok deal “OFF THE TABLE” for the foreseeable future, per Fox Business
This comes after China decided to f*** around with retaliatory tariffs.
GOOD!
That CCP app sould burn in hell.
https://is.gd/chhzVW
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (oTMKS)
[insert meme picture of Bushies and big $$$ donors bent over laughing at a cocktail party + "And then we told them: Learn to code! Lol!"]
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (Cki93)
If the end goal is to improve the domestic US economy and the standard of living for the middle class, then tariffs must stay high.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Yes.
And what about the UAW who just supported President Trump's import tariffs? Are those reversed, too?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (A1wUB)
I guess I missed the class where they explained that.
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (gUzGB)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
As a far Lefty, probably invested heavily in Tesla to save the planet from global warming several years ago, and is now reaping the rewards of her TDS.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (JCZqz)
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Probably 100% in the most aggressive Vanguard asset class possible because they're 67 years old and never saved until about five years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:39 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 09, 2025 02:39 PM (hXFMA)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 09, 2025 02:39 PM (wBaIH)
And what about the UAW who just supported President Trump's import tariffs? Are those reversed, too?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:38 PM (A1wUB)
I guess so. Little bait and switch for our car making union buddies.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: barbarausa at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (enw9G)
Posted by: Yuan Hung Lo at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (l3sRd)
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM (uCjyK)
Even lawyers could be trained to rivet the handles onto made-in-USA Harbor Freight putty knives.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (8zz6B)
I see you've never met any lawyers.
Posted by: Taking Notes at April 09, 2025 02:41 PM (Kxb1A)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
That's terrible news, and we're sorry to hear about your accident! Unfortunately, your policy has a $500 deductible...
Posted by: Temu's Insurance Company at April 09, 2025 02:41 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 02:41 PM (p7mbN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 09, 2025 02:41 PM (SSLjk)
Posted by: toddg at April 09, 2025 02:42 PM (vypVY)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:36 PM (LkLld)
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Economic Security == National Security
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 02:42 PM (oTMKS)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:42 PM (LkLld)
Many lawyers are even incompetent at practicing law.
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:42 PM (gUzGB)
I try to be circumspect when it comes to tariffs, because I know I lack expertise. (So does every MSM columnist, but that doesn't stop THEM.)
Here's some things I DO know & that I CAN understand: Honduras imports more U.S. beef than all of Europe combined. Japan has a 70% tariff on U.S. rice. Canada's tariffs are so high that they effectively prohibit the import of U.S. milk.
When people call for "Free Trade!," THIS is what they have in mind.
I have a lot of respect for Kevin O'Leary. When HE says we should have 400% tariffs on Chinese imports, I think that proposition is worthy of consideration.
Posted by: mnw at April 09, 2025 02:42 PM (kd60y)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
Tell us about it.
Posted by: $10 Tree at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Sheriff Bart at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 09, 2025 02:41 PM (SSLjk)
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Maybe he can ask Queen LeBron for a loan?
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (oTMKS)
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (SSLjk)
I can't find it now, but just a couple days ago some DUmmy wrote something like "My 401K lost 20% of its value in the last 2 weeks. Even with a miracle economic recovery, it will be at least 6 months before it recovers!"
Possibly one of the dumbest DU takes I've ever seen...and that's saying A LOT.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions
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I remember it! Approximately, "I worked hard all my life and now in my retirement years my investments have taken a 20% dip that may require SIX MONTHS to recover!!1"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (rxe17)
That being said, Trump's been "making deals" for decades and has a pretty savvy intuition on what will work and what won't.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: JM in Illinois
It was at $198 last week, dropped to $171. And it's at $187 today, up 10% from the opening.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (8zz6B)
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but sure.
I don't understand the counter-argument here. Is it not important to try to make sure there are jobs and a functioning economy for the next generations?
Or nah, fuck 'em? blue collar jobs get off-shored, service-type blue collar jobs going to illegal immigrants, and white collar jobs go to legal immigrants?
The people that live here can just ... work at Starbucks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
Canada doesn't have a Labour Party. They have Liberals, who are scum and filth, and New Democrats, who are also scum and filth. And they have Conservatives, who are slightly less scummy and filthy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
Come shop with us. We hate the filthy Chinese.
Posted by: Daiso at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (/U5Yz)
I see you've never met any lawyers.
Posted by: Taking Notes at April 09, 2025 02:41 PM (Kxb1A)
Well that's OK. Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Casual Observer at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (05wnl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
Canada doesn't have a Labour Party. They have Liberals, who are scum and filth, and New Democrats, who are also scum and filth. And they have Conservatives, who are slightly less scummy and filthy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (8zz6B)
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It's hard to differentiate them from the filth and scum of Britain sometimes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (jc0TO)
Dow up 2400 pts.
Posted by: dantesed at April 09, 2025 02:44 PM (Oy/m2)
NGL, this sounds a lot like some of the comments here.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:45 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:40 PM (8zz6B)
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do we get to use training aids? By training aid, I mean, cattle prods, whips, cat o nine tails, etc. Hot pokers if they're especially recalcitrant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 09, 2025 02:45 PM (tT6L1)
They were in contact even before the balloon arrived.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 09, 2025 02:45 PM (iJfKG)
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This is one of the reasons he is effective.
Posted by: ... at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (I7yuf)
Let actual real people trade in the markets instead of algorithmic bots
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger
I thought Congress tried to stop that by not allowing anyone claim capital losses unless they held the stock for more than 90 days... or something like that.
Maybe that was also only for the little investors.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (hB7mE)
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (gUzGB)
I get that Roberts doesn't want to rein in Judges who are obstructing Trump. But you'd think letting Judges ignore SCOTUS would motivate him to protect his precious legacy.
http://tiny.cc/m5zf001
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (lIio7)
http://tiny.cc/m5zf001
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (lIio7)
I would think sheer petulance alone would get Roberts to act.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 02:47 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:47 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (rxe17)
A better question might be if any have ever died from an illness. That's how the Soviets used to do it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:47 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:47 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: Skip at April 09, 2025 02:47 PM (ypFCm)
Posted by: naturalfake"
I'd guess his underling handlers knew but they kept Biden in the dark.
Posted by: Ripley at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (GUOwU)
if I don't sell it to them, someone else will. (Military stuff excepted) and keep people employed. Ours was a service type product.
The thought was to bring them into the world market. Communist or not. But again, China has a hundred year plan and we have quarterly readouts.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal
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Marco Rubio has had the take on this for years, and he includes tough words for the Yanks who do it. Basically, "The Chinese have found a way to use capitalism against us.”
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (rxe17)
Posted by: ... at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (I7yuf)
Let actual real people trade in the markets instead of algorithmic bots
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger
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Agree. I’d go a little further and require a hold of 24 hours before allowing to sell.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (UMMMY)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (rxe17)
Most of the world has.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: BChasm Phone at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (hplWf)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (MGB5H)
Posted by: naturalfake"
Wait until you find out it wasn't appeasing, it was a partnership.
Posted by: ... at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (I7yuf)
Maybe that was also only for the little investors.
Posted by: FeatherBlade
Doesn't apply to futures, IIRC. They're worthless after 90 days.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (MGB5H)
No lunch special! You pay FULL PRICE!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (63Dwl)
They were in contact even before the balloon arrived.
Posted by: naturalfake
They make damn fine balloons.
Posted by: Mark Kelly at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (/U5Yz)
Even after SCOTUS says Trump can use the Alien Enemies Act to deport foreign gang members, Judges are issuing emergency stays.
I get that Roberts doesn't want to rein in Judges who are obstructing Trump. But you'd think letting Judges ignore SCOTUS would motivate him to protect his precious legacy.
http://tiny.cc/m5zf001
Posted by: bonhomme
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I can't remember, did SCOTUS actually, actually say Trump can use that Act, or was that the decision that only ruled on jurisdiction (i.e., sue in Texas, not D.C.)? Or have there been two SCOTUS decisions? I'm losing track.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:50 PM (rxe17)
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I think THIS version of Trump is among his best roles. He gets to play that (almost mythical) role of "Business Man Running Government Like a Business" and he's used to throwing his weight around to make deals. There's no heavier of a heavyweight in the nations-business than the United States, so he's perfectly in his element making deals for this country.
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM
Screw that, you'd kill my gaming.
Maybe on non-margin accounts, maybe.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (jc0TO)
To quote the late great Tom Wilson, Where the fuck is my jetpack?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (VoAdT)
Honestly, it might change a lot. There are many sauces that are a pain in the butt to make from scratch, even if you can get the ingredients. Your local buffet is probably buying those things from China.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (lIio7)
"The Chinese have found a way to use capitalism against us.”
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:48 PM (rxe17)
Most of the world has.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Yes! In fact, they've found a way to use many (all?) American principles against us.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (rxe17)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM (63Dwl)
I like French Onion.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:52 PM (MGB5H)
F em.
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (gUzGB)
Correct. The illegal commie regime needs to be shit canned to the ash heap of history.
Posted by: Zombie Chiang Kai-shek at April 09, 2025 02:52 PM (ekEaX)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:50 PM (rxe17)
I only read the synopsis of the decision, but I understood it that because the relief requested related to habeas corpus, the aggrieved parties must pursue relief in the jurisdiction that they were detained, not the DC 7-11 court for leftist causes.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:52 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:50 PM (rxe17)
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The ruling was on jurisdiction, but they also said that the Trump admin had to allow for habeus claims.
Which the Trump admin never argued against (it was used as the "Trump loses even when he wins" narrative peddled by people like French).
The problem for illegal immigrants is that habeus claims are handled where they are being held by Immigration Judges, executive judges that Trump can hire and fire at will. It's an administrative procedure where the IJ says, "Do you have proof of being allowed to be here?" Which should last about 5 minutes, max.
And it can be bypassed by the illegal never even asking for the hearing, by offering them an agreement that puts them in their home country if they sign or in CECOT if they don't.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 02:53 PM (GBKbO)
One thing that annoys me about American business mavens is how they spooge themselves over the idea of getting access to the huge market of about 1.4B Chinese. Which is a lie. First off, the Chicoms have been overstating their population numbers for decades, it's more like 1.1B to 1.2B.
More importantly, the vast majority of the Chinese population are barefoot unskilled rural labor who don't have access to running water, electricity or paved roads and generally squat and shit in the street, because they don't know how to build outhouses. Good luck selling toasters and big screen TVs to stone age peasants who don't have electricity.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 09, 2025 02:53 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (rxe17)
People will do what you allow them to get away with. Trump said, "no, enough."
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 02:54 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (rxe17)
The Chinese embassy was tweeting out anti-tariff speeches by Reagan the other day.
They're just as involved in the global propaganda war as anyone else.
Except OUR global propaganda war doesn't seem to be being fought with "what's in the best interest of the American middle class" in mind. Rather for the personal enrichment of the self-proclaimed "elites."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:54 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: BruceWayne"
Americans will now be unable to afford wasabi sauce and Tsingtao for their Year of the Snake celebrations.
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at April 09, 2025 02:54 PM (GUOwU)
Like "Let's Be Happy" except unironically
youtu.be/mij9G3oZx8s
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 02:54 PM (gKWVE)
http://tiny.cc/m5zf001
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 02:46 PM (lIio7)
The dirty secret of Roberts is he cares about politics more than legacy. The legacy thing is straight out of Script Central.
Posted by: ... at April 09, 2025 02:55 PM (I7yuf)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 09, 2025 02:55 PM (17s+e)
Mary ate the butter!
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:35 PM (/U5Yz)
If you listen very intently, you can hear the butter going "arf, arf, Timmy's in well again".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 02:55 PM (8zz6B)
We have this now.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 09, 2025 02:55 PM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: JM in Illinois
It was at $198 last week, dropped to $171. And it's at $187 today, up 10% from the opening.
Don't forget Walmart. Damn near everything they sell is cheap shit from China. Even the bacon.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 02:55 PM (WCo3d)
I for one can't think of a single top Chinese leader (=Secretary of the CCP) who's ever been ousted. Has anyone here?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (rxe17)
A better question might be if any have ever died from an illness. That's how the Soviets used to do it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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In fact, I take that back. There was a plot to assassinate Mao.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:56 PM (rxe17)
No such thing. All the chinese buffets are run by Koreans. Norks mostly. Spying on everybody and everything and reporting to Kim Jong Dong directly, so watch yourself.
Posted by: South Korean at April 09, 2025 02:56 PM (ekEaX)
Everything proprietary at the gaming company was willingly exposed to the Chinese (government-owned) entity for a relatively modest sum. I suspect they'll still go under and be absorbed by the Chinese company or have anything of value stolen as the doors are closing.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at April 09, 2025 02:56 PM (4DY5T)
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It would appear that stocks have reached a permanently high plateau
Posted by: Professor Dickweed at April 09, 2025 02:56 PM (9qg/U)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:16 PM
Some of us just make razzie-style dismissive noises.
Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at April 09, 2025 02:56 PM (g07/a)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 09, 2025 02:53 PM (y9nCu)
It's true. I've been to China. Even in Beijing, the average person is clearly poor. Communal bathrooms for entire apartment blocs. Toilet / shower / wash room combinations in the more upper class places.
Go out in the country, and you may as well be in North Korea.
These people are using man power to plow fields, I don't think they're going to be a major market for the US any time soon.
There are, of course, a small group of incredibly wealthy people who are well connected to the Party and are allowed to own / run businesses, which are all state sponsored.
Everyone else is basically living like a slave producing shit for export while living off next to no money while the government and elites get rich.
Which seems to be the world our "elites" want to emulate.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM (uCjyK)
Our trade deficit with the world is about $150 billion a month. 10% on that = $15 billion income, or about $130 billion per year.
Posted by: El Mariachi at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM (gDhA9)
Actually, the dirty secret is that Roberts masters just got slapped with a 125% tariff.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM (WCo3d)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 02:34 PM (LkLld)
Think about who's been President.
A general, and actor, and a fuckload of "lawyer" politicians - I have lawyer in quotes since most of them got into office shortly after getting their license.
All they know how to do is talk about things. All their friends know how to do is talk about things. And most of them are idiots so they're easily convinced of stupid shit.
OTOH, mean tweets.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM (ExV1e)
-something Paul Krugman probably said to win an award and live in a mansion
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM (gUzGB)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (g47mK)
Good luck selling toasters and big screen TVs to stone age peasants who don't have electricity.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Sell them outhouses.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (63Dwl)
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I so agree. We're missing a BIG opportunity when it comes to the withholding of funds from Harvard, Cornell, etc. We keep saying we're doing it because of "anti-semitism". WE NEED TO SHIFT THE MESSAGE. We need to instead say "Federal law says you can't allow anti-semitism. Good sense says Joe and Mary Sixpack shouldn't be sending even a penny from their paychecks to Ivy League Schools...even if you suddenly put a stop to the anti-semitism."
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 02:49 PM
You been here one and half hour! You go now!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (bFu5X)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM (VoAdT)
But first we need interest rates waaaaaaaay down so we can re-finance all the government debt that's coming due.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix"
Go into Hobby Lobby and check out where stuff is made. I'd estimate around 70% Chinese. For their Americana decor and trinkets it is 95%
Posted by: Chuck Schumer at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM (GUOwU)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (63Dwl)
And toilet paper.
Posted by: mrp at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM
Meh. So can I.
Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA) at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM (g07/a)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (Cus5s)
And sending home Chinese students in US.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:14 PM (Cki93)
Yes.
And, how many H1Bs are from CHYna? Because they CCP would *never* demand that they suction up every bit of information they can, right?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (Vqx30)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (p7mbN)
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Someone blew up/crashed a plane that Zhou Enlai was supposed to be traveling on, but he changed his sched at the last moment.
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (gUzGB)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:56 PM (rxe17)
Pa Pa Pa Oom M-Mow Mow Pa Pa Oom Mow M-Mow Pa Pa Oom M-Mow Mow Pa Pa Oom Mow M-Mow Oom M
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (NtVYv)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 03:01 PM (p7mbN)
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I got a nice Kimono and slippers from Temu. Everything else sucked out loud.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 03:01 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 09, 2025 02:59 PM
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Jim Cramer at April 09, 2025 03:01 PM (g07/a)
I know, something needs to be done about the US participants like Fauci and Dazak. . .
Posted by: Lizzy
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Noose is a forbidden word.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:01 PM (x057s)
Like "Let's Be Happy" except unironically
youtu.be/mij9G3oZx8s
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 02:54 PM (gKWVE)
That is ancient.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 03:01 PM (i24o9)
I don't understand the counter-argument here. Is it not important to try to make sure there are jobs and a functioning economy for the next generations?
Or nah, fuck 'em? blue collar jobs get off-shored, service-type blue collar jobs going to illegal immigrants, and white collar jobs go to legal immigrants?
The people that live here can just ... work at Starbucks?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:43 PM (uCjyK)
What it means is this: when tariffs on China make that 99 cent putty knife balloon in price to 2.99, some American entrepreneur will see an opportunity, and set up a putty knife factory, and hire Americans to work in it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (pZ64F)
Mebbe so but my mom was a nurse, not an English major so hung it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (TN0g+)
I agree. I don't care about campus protests. I don't even care that the entire education system says white people are terrible and deserve to be killed.
What I DO care about is that American taxpayers are subsidizing this nonsense and that massive numbers of the students going to these "elite" schools are foreign students, denying those opportunities to American citizens.
That's what we should be worked up about, not whether the immigrants who come here support Israel or Palestine or India or Pakistan or whatever the fuck.
And of COURSE we're going to have these cultural clashes when you import people from all over the world with ancient blood feuds.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: El Mariachi at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (gDhA9)
Nooooooo! I already have to win a few scratcher tickets before I can order Crab Rangoon.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (WCo3d)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (8zz6B)
Oh, right. Okay, then we agree. Sorry, I misread your initial comment.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 03:03 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM (63Dwl)
And toilet paper.
This could be our big opportunity for a come back!
Posted by: Sears Catalog at April 09, 2025 03:03 PM (g07/a)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (WCo3
What if you just saved your scratcher money for crab Rangoon?
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 03:03 PM (MGB5H)
x.com/ByronYork/status/1909924466089410735
They'd be promising their base the same stuff the Don is actually doing.
So, in sum, all they got is short term squealing about the market.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 03:03 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Loral, Rialy and Lippo oh my! at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 09, 2025 02:39 PM (hXFMA)
Since most of Amazon's profits are AWS, probably not.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (ExV1e)
The Paolo, he, how you say, doesn't understand this ... not hung.
Posted by: The Paolo at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (05wnl)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at April 09, 2025 02:39 PM (hXFMA)
Since most of Amazon's profits are AWS, probably not.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (ExV1e)
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What do profits have to do with stock?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (2cS/G)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix"
Go into Hobby Lobby and check out where stuff is made. I'd estimate around 70% Chinese. For their Americana decor and trinkets it is 95%
Posted by: Chuck Schumer
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Sheared genius
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (x057s)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 02:58 PM
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Wait, David Hogg is Chinese?
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (JsLiN)
And sending home Chinese students in US.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 09, 2025 02:14 PM (Cki93)
Yes.
And, how many H1Bs are from CHYna? Because they CCP would *never* demand that they suction up every bit of information they can, right?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (Vqx30)
China threatening Chinese students and their families back home to get them to spy is a regular problem.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (okun6)
According to my TV, I buy scratcher tickets to support education!
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (WCo3d)
Posted by: torabora at April 09, 2025 03:05 PM (PIyKX)
I think Bessent is the best Secr of Treasury since...Alexander Hamilton!
Posted by: runner
Can he dance?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 09, 2025 03:05 PM (63Dwl)
Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Chuck Schumer is asked to denounce violence against Tesla — he REFUSES, then angrily attacks Elon Musk instead:
"I can't talk about Tesla, but Elon Musk is a disaster for America.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 09, 2025 03:05 PM (L/fGl)
And, how many H1Bs are from CHYna? Because they CCP would *never* demand that they suction up every bit of information they can, right?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 09, 2025 03:00 PM (Vqx30)
The only way to get rich in China is to be well connected with the CCP.
The only way to get approved to go abroad to study is if the CCP allows it.
You need to be incredibly rich in Chinese terms to come to the US for a 4 year degree.
So who do we think these kids are, exactly? Obviously the kids of high ranking party officials. Are they all here spying? Not necessarily. But I mean, cmon.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 03:05 PM (uCjyK)
--Florida man taking a nap on the beach
http://tiny.cc/b7zf001
Posted by: bonhomme at April 09, 2025 03:05 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (JsLiN)
Yeah, when you beat him, you want to beat him again 30 minutes later.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: zombie Brigham Young at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (g07/a)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 03:02 PM (WCo3
What if you just saved your scratcher money for crab Rangoon?
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That's a plan that just *so crazy*...it just might work!
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 02:33 PM (pZ64F)
Mebbe so but my mom was a nurse, not an English major so hung it is.
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My mom was a nurse as well. Don't fuck with the Betty.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (g47mK)
Someone blew up/crashed a plane that Zhou Enlai was supposed to be traveling on, but he changed his sched at the last moment.
Posted by: Bulg
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Lin Biao was attempting to escape with family after his son-in-law's coup attempt against Mao failed.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (rxe17)
I think Fake News wanted their big fake story today to be about that brave DEI nurse* who was acting commish of the IRS quitting on principle. She "quit" because she was about to be fired.
But then President Trump, once again, seized the news cycle.
*yeah, she got her stupid fake phD from a nursing school.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:06 PM (A1wUB)
That was when Ministry hadn't fired their bassist yet and still wanted to be the American New Order rather than the American Depeche Mode in With Sympathy, much less the American Skinny Puppy in Twitch.
And now Al's given up and realized his band was best when mincing around the stage with bad English accents, wot.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (gKWVE)
I really wish Trump would either do the tariffs or not do the tariffs.
I've got a potential $5k tariff bill over my head on something I ordered months ago thats on a boat right now from Israel.
If I have to pay that tariff, fine. But I'm gonna be mega super pissed if I have to pay that tariff and the next day Trump is like "lulz nevermind" and cancels them.
Do or do not. There is no try.
And before people say "just cancel your order and get something domestically". Would love to. Unfortunately This is the only fireplace on the market that will fit the space in my house due to it being on the 2nd floor and the area right above the fireplace being ... our master bedroom. Per building code, its the only fireplace that will work due to its smaller (but powered) vent pipe.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (VNX3d)
I'd give $10,000 for this to actually be true.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (k9OZB)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
The S&P 500 is usually more representative of diversified portfolios. DJIA is 30 of the largest companies. NASDAQ is weighted more towards tech and higher risk startups.
At close yesterday the S&P500 was down 19% from it's peak on Feb 19.
Posted by: Sjg at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (aqZN1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (p7mbN)
Posted by: Harbor Freight at April 09, 2025 03:08 PM (05wnl)
I really wish Trump would either do the tariffs or not do the tariffs.
I've got a potential $5k tariff bill over my head on something I ordered months ago thats on a boat right now from Israel.
If I have to pay that tariff, fine. But I'm gonna be mega super pissed if I have to pay that tariff and the next day Trump is like "lulz nevermind" and cancels them.
Do or do not. There is no try.
And before people say "just cancel your order and get something domestically". Would love to. Unfortunately This is the only fireplace on the market that will fit the space in my house due to it being on the 2nd floor and the area right above the fireplace being ... our master bedroom. Per building code, its the only fireplace that will work due to its smaller (but powered) vent pipe.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (WYStd)
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Bibi was in DC yesterday as part of an effort to go to 0 tariffs with the US.
The tariffs will probably go away on that trade line, but your order is already on the boat, so...who knows how any negotiations will affect it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 03:08 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:08 PM (x057s)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM (XeU6L)
At close yesterday the S&P500 was down 19% from it's peak on Feb 19.
Posted by: Sjg at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (aqZN1)
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Why would anyone's individual portfolio be down as far as the S&P?
Is there absolutely no hedging going on. There are a bunch of ways to do it.
My portfolio never went down more than 1% through the whole thing because...I was appropriately hedged. I made no bets to offset anything. I hedged appropriately. That's all.
Actually losing 20% in this situation is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 03:10 PM (p7mbN)
Posted by: Iasonas at April 09, 2025 03:10 PM (gUzGB)
I see what you did there. *Golf clap* (It's Masters week)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 09, 2025 03:10 PM (tOso8)
Posted by: Jim Cramer Investment Club and media personality at April 09, 2025 03:10 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM
That's one way to slant it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 09, 2025 03:10 PM (g07/a)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (g47mK)
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William E. Simon hardest hit ... and never even got a black rappin' musical.
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (JsLiN)
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (eQO/Z)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (6TePA)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (x057s)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM
That's one way to slant it.
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This is all gooked up.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (pZ64F)
With economics I just roll with it and figure all will be well. In this case I trust Trump until I have reason not to.
One market downturn hurt us in distant the past, as I do remember my husband was not happy. The market usually responds eventually, or has. If he's not rewashing plastic ziplock bags I don't worry. Granted, there is nothing wrong with this, if any of you do. I simply don't.
My MIL did rewash plastic bags and it sort of grossed me out. I mean, they were washed until they fell apart, and she was well off but insane. I also was convinced she'd kill me if left overs were offered and I declined as I like to stay alive. Once I got salmonella (not from her) I was on high alert and still am.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: I just accidentally boinked a Zeta Reticulan at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Sid just wants to vote for Vance at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (PE4CR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM
That's one way to slant it.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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This is a slippery slope.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: runner at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (g47mK)
Salmon Chase.
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)
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That's not only wrong it's rude.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (x057s)
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (2cS/G)
Yes! In fact, they've found a way to use many (all?) American principles against us.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:51 PM (rxe17)
People will do what you allow them to get away with. Trump said, "no, enough."
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon
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Even beyond the economic wars. Consider the America-hating grad students here from foreign countries who seemingly couldn't wait to touch down on American soil to start denouncing us. "Yo I have FREEDOM OF SPEECH. It's my Constitutional right!"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (rxe17)
Posted by: Harbor Freight"
For several years now, HF has been increasing their manufacturing presence outside of China
Look at labels in the store.
You might be surprised.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at April 09, 2025 03:13 PM (a1415)
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 09, 2025 03:13 PM (p7mbN)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM
Do() || !Do(); // there is no try-catch
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 09, 2025 03:13 PM (g07/a)
Cullen S. Hendrix (PIIE), Date Dec. 18, 2024
It begins, "Conservative politics make for good music. The Nixon administration inspired anti-Vietnam war songs like “Fortunate Son” and “What’s Going On.” Ronald Reagan’s first term yielded “Born in the USA,” in which Bruce Springsteen smuggled social commentary on Vietnam and US industrial decline inside a hook so strong and anthemic that it has been serially misunderstood by reactionary politicians ever since. The first Trump administration elicited Childish Gambino’s “This is America.” And decades before all of this, Woodie Guthrie was wielding a six-string that killed fascists."
Global Think Tank, Civil Society darlings. F 'em.
Guess Fender and others need to rethink manufacturing, too.
Posted by: L - No nic, adores Musk & Miller at April 09, 2025 03:13 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: My mother in law at April 09, 2025 03:13 PM (05wnl)
Now do the SALT deduction. Also known as how the flyover states indirectly subsidize New England and California.
Posted by: Taking Notes at April 09, 2025 03:14 PM (Kxb1A)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
You have to be a real fast swimmer to do that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 03:14 PM (8zz6B)
PRC manufactured items are junk anyway and I try to buy quality items from more reliable countries..
Xi can Blow Me and I will cheer when that Loser is on a plane to DC to kiss Trump's ring .
And I hope says I will meet with you when I feel like it and you can wait in a Hotel till then !!!!!
Posted by: Alotta Fagina at April 09, 2025 03:14 PM (A2iSa)
Years ago Trump did a very funny bit on SNL. He claimed he started a chicken wing shop in New Jersey and he did a little song and dance to sell the wings.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (LkLld)
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I had no idea he deployed.
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (77rzZ)
Trump needs to fire as economic team, too chaotic. This is like the 3rd false start in tariffs
Get the tax cuts passed , then circle back around on tariffs.
Posted by: Maroon at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (KwEvH)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 09, 2025 03:04 PM (VNX3d)
I'd give $10,000 for this to actually be true.
Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 09, 2025 03:07 PM (k9OZB)
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New Stock Symbol: DeezNugz.
Posted by: ShainS -- On Democracies and Death Cults at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (JsLiN)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Kindltot at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (D7oie)
No, the dictator needs to keep all the same people happy. If they get moderately unhappy they get slapdash, if they get very unhappy they start burning down the cities.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (n7h9X)
- have bought right at the top of the curve before the dip
- be 100% allocated in a general index ETF like SPY or whatever with no cash, no bonds or bond funds, no sector exposure, no nothing
- sell *everything* you have at the bottom of the dip yesterday
If that's how you invest, you should not be self-managing your investments.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: JackStraw at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (LkLld)
Was it better than his Trump Steaks commercial?
I know that wasn't meant to be parody, but it still makes me laugh. "Trump steaks, available exclusively from The Sharper Image!" heh.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (uCjyK)
Bite the Orange Man crank..... Comrade !!!!
Posted by: Alotta Fagina at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (A2iSa)
I just doubt it can hold +10.4% until tomorrow.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Terry Jacks at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (TN0g+)
I hate that stupid saying.
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)
It's not really a saying it's a line from a movie from a muppet. But I get the sentiment. It leaves no room for instruction, learning, trial and error, growth, or realistic assessments or expectations. Unfortunately there are some people who act like a random line from Yoda is some great received wisdom. Parents raise their kids like this, managers in the workplace treat workers like this. It's damaging, defeating,and demoralizing, leads to burnout, warped personal beliefs, lack of resilience and adaptability, and in worst cases feelings of worthlessness and suicidality.
Posted by: Yoda sucks at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (fZg2O)
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (MGB5H)
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I had no idea he deployed.
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 03:15 PM (TN0g+)
Did he yell "KABONG!" while doing it?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: Harbor Freight"
For several years now, HF has been increasing their manufacturing presence outside of China
Look at labels in the store.
You might be surprised.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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And
WalMart made its bones selling cheap American made products.
This imbalance will balance out. Manufacturing and the jobs that go with them will come back here.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (x057s)
Posted by: Lincolntf at April 09, 2025 02:21 PM (2cS/G)
Trump seems to be squeezing the panickers out of the market with these tricks
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (n7h9X)
So if Monday was Black Monday II, or orange Monday as the Democrats unsuccessfully tried to meme it, what's today?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (6TePA)
There. Fixed it.
If you wanted counter-Reagan programming that didn't suck absolute balls, you had Nena's "99 Luftballons" in German. Also decent around there was Sting's "Russians" although that rings better today than then.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 03:17 PM (gKWVE)
Whipsaw Wednesday?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (A1wUB)
Whipsaw Wednesday?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (A1wUB)
Scalp Weasel Wednesday?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Yoda sucks
Yes, I know it's from a movie muppet, but as you note people treat it as some deep piece of thought. And I completely agree with your criticisms of it.
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (77rzZ)
They steal Everything, then they copy everything. They never pay for patents, they never pay for licenses, and they never pay for intellectual property.
AND they produce and export DISEASE.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (A1wUB)
But aside from that, their dance troupe is pretty cool.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:19 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (77rzZ)
You have to be a real fast swimmer to do that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 09, 2025 03:14 PM (8zz6B)
I find a dipnet works admirably.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2025 03:19 PM (eQO/Z)
Is there absolutely no hedging going on. There are a bunch of ways to do it.
My portfolio never went down more than 1% through the whole thing because...I was appropriately hedged. I made no bets to offset anything. I hedged appropriately. That's all.
Actually losing 20% in this situation is stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 03:09 PM (GBKbO)
A lot of people hold 75% or more of their investments in stocks, especially when they're younger. Bonds and cash usually get more weighting the closer you are to retirement and can't afford as much risk.
20% loss is on the high side, but certainly possible especially if his stock picks were weighted heavily based on personal politics.
Posted by: Sjg at April 09, 2025 03:19 PM (aqZN1)
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 03:19 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: L - No nic, adores Musk & Miller at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (77rzZ)
*fistbump*
Posted by: Down with idiotic platitudes! at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (TbWk/)
Um, you know how Fake News likes to label things like "worst day since...?"
You reckon Fake News will avoid labeling today as "Best Day Since....?"
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 02:19 PM (A1wUB)
But aside from that, their dance troupe is pretty cool.
Posted by: Oldcat
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I'm partial to their marching Women's Army.
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (HgMAr)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (6TePA)
Gainesville police arrested 40-year-old Speedy Gonzalez — yes, that is his real name — after identifying him on surveillance footage at a Walmart on Shallowford Road in March. Gonzalez is accused of carrying out a series of thefts at stores in Hall, Barrow, Gwinnett, Habersham, White, and Lumpkin counties.
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Allegedly he made off with $20,000.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (A1wUB)
Posted by: gKWVE at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Oldcat
That group is hated by the CCP
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (Z8YL4)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 02:29 PM (rxe17)
Xi had somebody eradicated in Shanghai during covid. Used COVID measures to wipe out that nest of rivals.
There were a few regime changes in the 70s too IIRC.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (n7h9X)
20% loss is on the high side, but certainly possible especially if his stock picks were weighted heavily based on personal politics.
Posted by: Sjg at April 09, 2025 03:19 PM (aqZN1)
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Mine is 90% stocks.
And I lost 1%.
I was hedged with Put Options on the QQQs. Everything lost in the stocks can picked up by the options.
This isn't rocket science. No one. I mean no one should lose 20% when the market goes down that much.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:18 PM (77rzZ)
There is a corollary that actually makes sense of this. I had a professor in Arch school and during critique, he would admonish students who said things like, "I tried to connect the interior space with the exterior views..." His response was, "This is not try-atechture. What did you DO? You put a window in that wall to good effect. Now move on."
IOW, cut the crap.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 03:21 PM (uCjyK)
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Speed kills!
Posted by: Crusader at April 09, 2025 03:22 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (HgMAr)
Isn't that North Korea, or does China have them too.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:22 PM (n7h9X)
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I've held bonds for 10 years and even up to now Im in the red with them
The rest is ETFs, which I need to rebalance to omit the international market which can suck my ding ding now
Posted by: The Unmasked and Unvaxed Ranger - Uplifting The Wagshambas of Freedom at April 09, 2025 03:23 PM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Sjg at April 09, 2025 03:19 PM
I lost near 30% in 2008 because I had a lot of bank stocks, some I lost permanently, like the bank shut down and the stock went to zero permanent. It took 3 years to get it all back.
On the plus side, three years of tax writeoffs.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 03:23 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: L - No nic, adores Musk & Miller at April 09, 2025 03:23 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 09, 2025 03:23 PM (6TePA)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 09, 2025 03:23 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: My mother in law
......
You can use them in public restrooms to cover the toilet seat.
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:24 PM (HgMAr)
When nullified tariffs are then bad but become good when lowered for the world markets or something.
Thus, I do not know if I supports tariffs for some countries and not others, so the playing field is equal to the point of being unequal to the world economies in the East but not Europe or the US
Posted by: Kamal Harris at April 09, 2025 03:25 PM (Pq6a+)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 09, 2025 03:26 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (HgMAr)
Isn't that North Korea, or does China have them too.
Posted by: Oldcat
......
https://tinyurl.com/4nfwtws8
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:26 PM (HgMAr)
- have bought right at the top of the curve before the dip
- be 100% allocated in a general index ETF like SPY or whatever with no cash, no bonds or bond funds, no sector exposure, no nothing
- sell *everything* you have at the bottom of the dip yesterday
If that's how you invest, you should not be self-managing your investments.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (VoAdT)
When someone says they lost X% they don't usually mean realized losses, but rather what their unrealized gains were compared to what they currently are.
Posted by: Sjg at April 09, 2025 03:26 PM (aqZN1)
Which seems to be the world our "elites" want to emulate.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 09, 2025 02:57 PM
Cuba: Private islands, access to imported goods, personal health care etc. for the upper echelon. Regular people have restricted access to catching fish and crustaceans (on an island!), poor transportation choices, and almost no way to repair houses etc.
Venezuela: Plebes buy Black Market feminine hygiene products while Maria Gabriela, one of the daughters of Hugo Chavez, gets the spoiled jet-setting life even after his death.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 09, 2025 03:27 PM (fxCK2)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 09, 2025 03:27 PM (L/fGl)
I hate that stupid saying.
Posted by: Bulg at April 09, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)
Being from the post hippie era, I tolerate that more that perhaps you do. Since then the force was some woozy hippie mysticism. Saying you will just try shows lack of confidence in your magic power, so stop that shit. Same as putting away the optical sight on the last shot at the Death Star. Trust the magic, trust yourself and quit whining.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:27 PM (n7h9X)
Trump's advantage when dealing with most foreign leaders is they actually believe CNN/MSNBC that he's crazy kookoo bananas and could do anything at any time, so they feel pressured into doing whatever they can to appease him.
Therefore I fully support him leaning into that.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2025 03:27 PM (2ocoG)
Even beyond the economic wars. Consider the America-hating grad students here from foreign countries who seemingly couldn't wait to touch down on American soil to start denouncing us. "Yo I have FREEDOM OF SPEECH. It's my Constitutional right!"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Don't forget the gringos. I contracted under an MBA. Every store in his portfolio went bankrupt all the while he showed them that they were in the black.
One can rig a ledger but no actual cash flow, customer acquisition and retention. If you aren't keeping and growing your customer base you have a dying company.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:29 PM (x057s)
Posted by: Congressman Eric Swalwell at April 09, 2025 03:29 PM (Pq6a+)
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:20 PM (HgMAr)
Isn't that North Korea, or does China have them too.
Posted by: Oldcat
......
https://tinyurl.com/4nfwtws8
Posted by: wth at April 09, 2025 03:26 PM (HgMAr)
whores for the upper management, just like USSR 's sports teams.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:29 PM (n7h9X)
Trump's advantage when dealing with most foreign leaders is they actually believe CNN/MSNBC that he's crazy kookoo bananas and could do anything at any time, so they feel pressured into doing whatever they can to appease him.
Therefore I fully support him leaning into that.
Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2025 03:27 PM (2ocoG)
I love it. These EU idiots have been blowing us off for 50 years or so talking nice in person while shafting us in reality, and not just in Economics. I heard someone speaking about this latest Houthi attack to preserve Europes lifeline through the Red Sea. Two US Carrier Groups, one Brit destroyer, one French boat.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:32 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 09, 2025 03:12 PM (rxe17)
Probably still better than our home grown grad students.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 09, 2025 03:36 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Oldcat
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French boat, is that a style or a comfort ship?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 09, 2025 03:36 PM (x057s)
- be 100% allocated in a general index ETF like SPY or whatever with no cash, no bonds or bond funds, no sector exposure, no nothing
- sell *everything* you have at the bottom of the dip yesterday
If that's how you invest, you should not be self-managing your investments.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 09, 2025 03:16 PM (VoAdT)
Back when Trump took office the first time, the market bumped. I figured it would happen again so when he won in November, I tossed about $3k of my truck slush fund that I use to pay for parts that I don't want the wife to see into two S&P Index funds.
Yeah they're hurting right now - but my whole net worth isn't depending on it... just my ability to spend stupid money on stupid things for the big red Hummer.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 09, 2025 03:40 PM (WYStd)
Didn't France build a nuclear aircraft carrier that irradiated its crew?
Posted by: Ian S. at April 09, 2025 03:54 PM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Dr_No at April 09, 2025 04:26 PM (ayRl+)
The tariffs lasted all of 12 hours? How is that supposed to give you leverage when the world sees you surrender that quickly? Flip flopping on something they just dug their heels in on?
And this was only 2 days after they vehemently denied there would be any 90 day pause.
Understand that stocks have now completely erased their liberation day losses... Do you think that's rational?
The real takeaway here is that if there were ever a chance to finally pop the easy money bubble in stocks, this was it. They cringed at the first sign of market trouble and surrendered. It was that easy. Now we're back to outrageous valuations and nothing but aggressive speculation.
Posted by: FunkySeeFunkyDo at April 09, 2025 04:59 PM (JXyy5)
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