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Court Rejects Michael Mann's Request to Delay His Massive $530,000 Debt to National Review
Climate Jive Turkey Michael Mann sued National Review for ten years claiming they defamed him by questioning Doctor Hockey Stick's alleged "science." He lost. Not only did he lose, but he presented misleading claims to the court to jack up the damages he was seeking, and, due to this misrepresentation, was ordered to pay National Review's legal bills.
He's now boo-hoo whinin' and cryin' that he can't pay right now. The court ordered him to pay up.
Court Delivers Massive Blow To Famed Climate Scientist Who Sued Critics A Washington, D.C., court rejected University of Pennsylvania climate scientist Michael Mann's bid to postpone his required payment of hundreds of thousands of dollars to National Review on Thursday. The Superior Court of the District of Columbia ruled in January that Mann owes National Review approximately $530,000 to cover the outlet's legal fees after spending more than a decade locked in defamation litigation against the organization, and Mann subsequently requested a stay to postpone the payments. On Thursday, the court denied Mann's request, meaning that he will likely have to pony up cash to an outlet he once described in emails as a "threat to our children."Your wife's children, maybe.
I'll tell you what's extraordinary -- getting cucked by the cucks at National Review. I don't know how that's even possible! Michael Mann is the George Conway of Rosie Ruizes.
... In a filing opposing National Review's request for compensation, Mann argued that the move was a "mean-spirited and unjustified request by a powerful organization" intending to intimidate and silence him. Notably, Judge Albert Irving wrote in March that Mann and his lawyers had presented misleading information to the jury while the defamation case was at trial. Specifically, Mann and his representation misled the jury as to how much grant funding he missed out on due to the actions of the defendants, a key element of his defamation case, with Irving describing the deception as "extraordinary in its scope, extent, and intent."
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Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:32 PM (MGB5H)
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Rookie error - again.
Posted by: Nazdar at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (NcvvS)
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Where did Mark Steyn end up in all of this? I know he was also a defendant.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (5hfjS)
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If you sue for libel, they’re liable to prove it.
Posted by: Allen at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (JYpjP)
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Michael Mann >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael
Mann
Mann
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (MGB5H)
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Mann needs a Torpedo Hockey Stick to really fake the numbers.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (pMi6S)
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Cuck-on-cuck warfare. It's almost as good as blue-on-blue!
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (hDAOz)
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I'm surprised a ten year battle only cost half a million.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (v2VfP)
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Destroy his ass. Charlatan's like him need to be made a horrible example of.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (CNncw)
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"Famed climate scientist," instead of "Discredited climate huxter?"
Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (z9kNN)
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"X is the Y of Z" comparisons always tickle me.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (w6EFb)
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Nice. Mann is still called a "Climate Scientist" even though he's been shown to be a fraud.
Nice grift, if you can get it.
Nice grift, if you can get it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (tT6L1)
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Especially for what he did to Mark Steyn.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (CNncw)
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Michael Mann is the George Conway of Rosie Ruizes.
Trump needs to hire Ace and put him in charge of cruel tweets.
Trump needs to hire Ace and put him in charge of cruel tweets.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * feeling a bit atavistic at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (YyswZ)
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Mann has also been whining that he is just a poor college professor in his filings.
Maybe the organizations that have bankrolled Mann's litigation can pick up the payment to National Review.
Maybe the organizations that have bankrolled Mann's litigation can pick up the payment to National Review.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 02:36 PM (xTIDn)
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I think Steyn was sued in the people's republic of Canada, and was found guilty of being correct when arguing with a global warming cultist.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at April 08, 2025 02:36 PM (fgmuN)
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YOU PAY ME.
NOW.
NOW.
Posted by: Dude who is Owed Cash Money at April 08, 2025 02:36 PM (wtvvX)
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9 I'm surprised a ten year battle only cost half a million.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (v2VfP)
Does seem low. Maybe the judge only made him pay for some of the legal fees, I don't know.
Also, I haven't followed this case at all, but there must have been a lot of nonsense and tomfoolery from one or both sides for a federal defamation case to take 10 years. That's abnormally long.
Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (v2VfP)
Does seem low. Maybe the judge only made him pay for some of the legal fees, I don't know.
Also, I haven't followed this case at all, but there must have been a lot of nonsense and tomfoolery from one or both sides for a federal defamation case to take 10 years. That's abnormally long.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:36 PM (uCjyK)
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Where did Mark Steyn end up in all of this? I know he was also a defendant.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
Yeah, that's all I want to know. I couldn't possibly care less what happens to Natty Review.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
Yeah, that's all I want to know. I couldn't possibly care less what happens to Natty Review.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 02:36 PM (dGCAG)
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But people like Giuliani or Alex Jones get $100 million-bajillion dollar damage claim for discussing conspiracy theories. Basically made homeless.
This guy is a leading climate scientist clearly involved in massive fraud, lies about his research and lies in court and gets a $500k slap after 10 years.
This guy is a leading climate scientist clearly involved in massive fraud, lies about his research and lies in court and gets a $500k slap after 10 years.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (7NKxb)
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I almost begrudge National Review the money.
On the bright side, I guess Rich Lowery can get top of the line breast implants now. So there's that.
On the bright side, I guess Rich Lowery can get top of the line breast implants now. So there's that.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (y+qgR)
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Guess he'll have to magic up a new BS theory that just happens to support every left winger's presumptions and desires
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (OlZEO)
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Michael Mann has a brain like a bent hockey stick, it isn't useful in serious games.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (agZyU)
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"My God! It's full of cucks!" - Dave Bowman looking at the Mann vs. National Review case from somewhere near Jupiter
Posted by: Croaker at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (+BcZI)
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Also, no one would have taken his case on a contingency, so someone was paying his own attorney at an hourly rate for ten years. No way he was paying that personally.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (Dm8we)
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Maybe Greenpeace can loan Mr. Mann the money.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (wtvvX)
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Miami Vice Michael Mann > this guy
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (jGJov)
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Mark Steyn made the genius decision to be his own legal counsel and Lost in a Canadian "court."
Mark Steyn made the genius decision to be his own legal counsel and Lost in a Canadian "court."
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (Ks1zr)
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I'm guessing Penn, via our tax dollars, funded his decade of lawsuits without merit.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (zct9C)
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Micheal Mann? Isn't he the guy who diddled kids?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (lTnrq)
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Also, no one would have taken his case on a contingency, so someone was paying his own attorney at an hourly rate for ten years. No way he was paying that personally.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (Dm8we)
Something tells me we're going to find out WE paid, by means of CIA/USAID.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (Dm8we)
Something tells me we're going to find out WE paid, by means of CIA/USAID.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (dGCAG)
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3 Where did Mark Steyn end up in all of this? I know he was also a defendant.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
Stern lost. He was ordered to pay $1 in compensatory damages an $1,000,000 punitive damages, but punitive was later reduced to $5,000.
http://tiny.cc/9quf001
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:34 PM (uCjyK)
Stern lost. He was ordered to pay $1 in compensatory damages an $1,000,000 punitive damages, but punitive was later reduced to $5,000.
http://tiny.cc/9quf001
Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (z9kNN)
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When Emailgate happened in 2005 -- in which the emails from the office of the UK agency in charge of the raw data on nwhicn all "climate p[rdictions" were based were leaked, revealed that they FUDGED THE RAW DATA ITSELF, propping the entire "global warming" hoax with fraudulent numbers-- I thought the whole Global Warming/Climate Change idiocy would just collapse and quietly go away.
But no.
It was at that moment that thy tuned up the hysteria to 11 million, and toto my astonishment and cbagrin "Climrte Change" within a few years became univeralmin school curricula, medai, governement regulations, etc.
Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
But no.
It was at that moment that thy tuned up the hysteria to 11 million, and toto my astonishment and cbagrin "Climrte Change" within a few years became univeralmin school curricula, medai, governement regulations, etc.
Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
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29 Miami Vice Michael Mann > this guy
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (jGJov)
If you saw them together, would they be referred to as Michael Menn?
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (jGJov)
If you saw them together, would they be referred to as Michael Menn?
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (wtvvX)
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Only $530k for legal costs? Climate change bullshit is costing economies that per second.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (wBaIH)
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Maybe Greenpeace can loan Mr. Mann the money.
Posted by: Tex Lovera
I think they owe millions to Enterprise over the North Dakota pipeline.
Posted by: Tex Lovera
I think they owe millions to Enterprise over the North Dakota pipeline.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (zct9C)
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"X is the Y of Z" comparisons always tickle me.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (w6EFb)
They render me obtuse
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (w6EFb)
They render me obtuse
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (vf0Y9)
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Mann goes to "Go Fund Me", bags a million the first week and flips off Steyn.
Mann goes to "Go Fund Me", bags a million the first week and flips off Steyn.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:41 PM (j4U/Z)
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Mark Steyn made the genius decision to be his own legal counsel and Lost in a Canadian "court."
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (Ks1zr)
Sounds smart to me. He wasn't going to win in occupied Canada.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (Ks1zr)
Sounds smart to me. He wasn't going to win in occupied Canada.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:41 PM (n7h9X)
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Fuck that guy with a hockey stick.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 08, 2025 02:41 PM (ufFY8)
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38 Maybe Greenpeace can loan Mr. Mann the money.
Posted by: Tex Lovera
I think they owe millions to Enterprise over the North Dakota pipeline.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (zct9C)
Well, that was supposed to be the joke...
Posted by: Tex Lovera
I think they owe millions to Enterprise over the North Dakota pipeline.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (zct9C)
Well, that was supposed to be the joke...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (wtvvX)
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Stern lost. He was ordered to pay $1 in compensatory damages an $1,000,000 punitive damages, but punitive was later reduced to $5,000.
http://tiny.cc/9quf001
Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (z9kNN)
Oh. Well, that's not too bad, I guess.
http://tiny.cc/9quf001
Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (z9kNN)
Oh. Well, that's not too bad, I guess.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (uCjyK)
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I'm sure Al Gore, John Kerry, and Greta Thunberg will rush to Mann's aid. Gore and Kerry for the cash, Thunberg to yell in a megaphone in front of Nat'l Review HQ "How Dare You!!"
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (oiNtH)
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But people like Giuliani or Alex Jones get $100 million-bajillion dollar damage claim for discussing conspiracy theories. Basically made homeless.
This guy is a leading climate scientist clearly involved in massive fraud, lies about his research and lies in court and gets a $500k slap after 10 years.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (4pwAx)
Great point.
This guy is a leading climate scientist clearly involved in massive fraud, lies about his research and lies in court and gets a $500k slap after 10 years.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (4pwAx)
Great point.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (CNncw)
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Oops, I meant it to be a left-handed hockey stick!
Posted by: Michael Mann, NHL Hall-of-Famer at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (w9Wax)
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Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
the left needs its crisis to advance it's globalist socialist agenda, and this is the best they've got, at least until they release another virus or something
the left needs its crisis to advance it's globalist socialist agenda, and this is the best they've got, at least until they release another virus or something
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (jGJov)
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Court Delivers Massive Blow To Famed Climate Scientist Who Sued Critics
A Washington, D.C., court rejected University of Pennsylvania climate scientist Michael Mann's bid to postpone his required payment of hundreds of thousands of dollars to National Review on Thursday.
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Famed --> Notorious
And he's at Penn State, not the University of Pennsylvania.
Another "journalism" major f-up.
A Washington, D.C., court rejected University of Pennsylvania climate scientist Michael Mann's bid to postpone his required payment of hundreds of thousands of dollars to National Review on Thursday.
____________
Famed --> Notorious
And he's at Penn State, not the University of Pennsylvania.
Another "journalism" major f-up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (YqDXo)
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This crap started something like 20 years ago right?
And yet somehow global warming has had no effect on human life anywhere on the planet now 30 years into "12 years to save the planet"
And yet somehow global warming has had no effect on human life anywhere on the planet now 30 years into "12 years to save the planet"
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (t0Rmr)
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Ran across a Mark Steyn article in the London Spectator from 2003.
A couple of interesting quotes:
On 11 September 2001, I wrote that one of the casualties of the day’s events would be the Western alliance: ‘The US taxpayer’s willingness to pay for the defence of Canada and Europe has contributed to the decay of America’s so-called “allies”, freeing them to disband their armed forces, flirt with dictators and gangster states, and essentially convert themselves to semi-non-aligned.’ ‘The West’ was an obsolete concept, because, as I put it later that month, for everyone but America ‘the free world is mostly a free ride’.
It took twenty-four years, but Steyn's prediction is coming to pass.
The second quote is in the next comment.
A couple of interesting quotes:
On 11 September 2001, I wrote that one of the casualties of the day’s events would be the Western alliance: ‘The US taxpayer’s willingness to pay for the defence of Canada and Europe has contributed to the decay of America’s so-called “allies”, freeing them to disband their armed forces, flirt with dictators and gangster states, and essentially convert themselves to semi-non-aligned.’ ‘The West’ was an obsolete concept, because, as I put it later that month, for everyone but America ‘the free world is mostly a free ride’.
It took twenty-four years, but Steyn's prediction is coming to pass.
The second quote is in the next comment.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at April 08, 2025 02:44 PM (eb5mD)
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Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
the left needs its crisis to advance it's globalist socialist agenda, and this is the best they've got, at least until they release another virus or something
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (jGJov)
It's too bad we don't have the means to send them to Mercury, so they can study climate change closer to the source.
the left needs its crisis to advance it's globalist socialist agenda, and this is the best they've got, at least until they release another virus or something
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (jGJov)
It's too bad we don't have the means to send them to Mercury, so they can study climate change closer to the source.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:44 PM (VNX3d)
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Trump needs to hire Ace and put him in charge of cruel tweets.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * feeling a bit atavistic at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (YyswZ)
-____________________________
Whenever the term "Jive Turkey" pops up, affix the helmet and check the room for easy exits.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * feeling a bit atavistic at April 08, 2025 02:35 PM (YyswZ)
-____________________________
Whenever the term "Jive Turkey" pops up, affix the helmet and check the room for easy exits.
Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 02:44 PM (dIske)
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Has Andrew McCarthy vouched for Mann as of yet?
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (++oVT)
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It was at that moment that thy tuned up the hysteria to 11 million, and toto my astonishment and cbagrin "Climrte Change" within a few years became univeralmin school curricula, medai, governement regulations, etc.
Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
All the evidence about how identical twins raised apart react was fraudulent. Most of the parapsychology base raw data was faked. Lysenkoism in the USSR. Piltdown Man diverted human origin research for 40 years.
Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
All the evidence about how identical twins raised apart react was fraudulent. Most of the parapsychology base raw data was faked. Lysenkoism in the USSR. Piltdown Man diverted human origin research for 40 years.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (n7h9X)
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This crap started something like 20 years ago right?
it was global cooling in the 70s, warming in the 80s into the 90s, and then "climate change" around Y2K
it was global cooling in the 70s, warming in the 80s into the 90s, and then "climate change" around Y2K
Posted by: brak at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (jGJov)
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Hell, Juwanna Mann >>>>>> Michael Mann
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at April 08, 2025 02:44 PM (eb5mD)
That bitch could ball!
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at April 08, 2025 02:44 PM (eb5mD)
That bitch could ball!
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (MGB5H)
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Mann had also sued a guy in Canada. After a similar length of time and Mann's failure to comply with the discovery process, the ct dismissed the case . Haven't heard of any appeal by Mann
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (6TePA)
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The second Steyn quote from 2003:
Europe is dying. As I’ve pointed out here before, it can’t square rising welfare costs, a collapsed birthrate and a manpower dependent on the world’s least skilled, least assimilable immigrants. In 20 years’ time, as those Dutch Muslim teenagers are entering the voting booths, European countries, unlike parts of Nigeria, will not be living under Sharia, but they will be reaching their accommodations with their radicalised Islamic compatriots, who like many intolerant types are expert at exploiting the ‘tolerance’ of pluralist societies.
I'd say that Steyn accurately forecast the future, with Western European politicians participating in Iftar dinners and celebrating the glories of Ramadan.
Europe is dying. As I’ve pointed out here before, it can’t square rising welfare costs, a collapsed birthrate and a manpower dependent on the world’s least skilled, least assimilable immigrants. In 20 years’ time, as those Dutch Muslim teenagers are entering the voting booths, European countries, unlike parts of Nigeria, will not be living under Sharia, but they will be reaching their accommodations with their radicalised Islamic compatriots, who like many intolerant types are expert at exploiting the ‘tolerance’ of pluralist societies.
I'd say that Steyn accurately forecast the future, with Western European politicians participating in Iftar dinners and celebrating the glories of Ramadan.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (xTIDn)
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but I guess you are being sarcastic, from what your comments were last night about Dire Wolves. ride that obsession of yours like a litoptern!
Posted by: Kindltot
lol, your 50-cent words shalt not daunt me!
but I guess you are being sarcastic, from what your comments were last night about Dire Wolves. ride that obsession of yours like a litoptern!
Posted by: Kindltot
lol, your 50-cent words shalt not daunt me!
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (Ks1zr)
62
This crap started something like 20 years ago right?
And yet somehow global warming has had no effect on human life anywhere on the planet now 30 years into "12 years to save the planet"
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (t0Rmr)
Closer to 50. It started as The Coming Ice Age, then Global Warming, then Climate Change. The story changed every time the "experts" were proven wrong by time.
And yet somehow global warming has had no effect on human life anywhere on the planet now 30 years into "12 years to save the planet"
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (t0Rmr)
Closer to 50. It started as The Coming Ice Age, then Global Warming, then Climate Change. The story changed every time the "experts" were proven wrong by time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
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It took twenty-four years, but Steyn's prediction is coming to pass.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Now look at his predictions about birthrate and muzzies in Europe.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Now look at his predictions about birthrate and muzzies in Europe.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (lTnrq)
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And he's at Penn State, not the University of Pennsylvania.
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Decoded, this means he can walk to work.
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Decoded, this means he can walk to work.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (pZ64F)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (/Ghsb)
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Damn. Getting cucked by National Review? Savage.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (kgE5c)
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I thought it was "proven" that the hockey stick graph was an intentionally fabricated lie. "Hide the Decline" and all that phony data.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (Cus5s)
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No one called anyone a "JT".
Posted by: Jackie Moon at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (++oVT)
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I thought it was "proven" that the hockey stick graph was an intentionally fabricated lie. "Hide the Decline" and all that phony data.
IIRC all of the warming comes from the measurements of ONE tree.
IIRC all of the warming comes from the measurements of ONE tree.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
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@49 Jay, Mann was at Penn State when this crap started. In 2022 or something like that he went to U of Penn
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (6TePA)
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Mann goes to "Go Fund Me", bags a million the first week and flips off Steyn.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:41 PM (j4U/Z)
He can steal what he wants to from fools. Decreases their power.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:41 PM (j4U/Z)
He can steal what he wants to from fools. Decreases their power.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: gKWVE at April 08, 2025 02:48 PM (gKWVE)
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IIRC all of the warming comes from the measurements of ONE tree.
On the Yamal Peninsula in Arctic Russia.
PUTIN! PUTIN! PUTIN!
On the Yamal Peninsula in Arctic Russia.
PUTIN! PUTIN! PUTIN!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 02:48 PM (xTIDn)
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Does seem low. Maybe the judge only made him pay for some of the legal fees, I don't know.
Also, I haven't followed this case at all, but there must have been a lot of nonsense and tomfoolery from one or both sides for a federal defamation case to take 10 years. That's abnormally long.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Judge ruled that the defendants only get their legal fees/time for addressing the lack of grants issued lies by the plaintiff. Not all of them. Still cost NR a lot, bankrupted Steyn and killed his health, and affected the AEI somewhat and the defendant that worked for them.
Also, I haven't followed this case at all, but there must have been a lot of nonsense and tomfoolery from one or both sides for a federal defamation case to take 10 years. That's abnormally long.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Judge ruled that the defendants only get their legal fees/time for addressing the lack of grants issued lies by the plaintiff. Not all of them. Still cost NR a lot, bankrupted Steyn and killed his health, and affected the AEI somewhat and the defendant that worked for them.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:49 PM (ctrM5)
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And there he was waiting for a check in the mail for the case he won that is being appealed
Posted by: Hugh Ghotkuked at April 08, 2025 02:49 PM (dzZCL)
76
Famed --> Notorious
And he's at Penn State, not the University of Pennsylvania.
Another "journalism" major f-up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (YqDXo)
Nope. Left Penn State in 2022 for University of Pennsylvania. Has his own webpage, verified.
And he's at Penn State, not the University of Pennsylvania.
Another "journalism" major f-up.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:43 PM (YqDXo)
Nope. Left Penn State in 2022 for University of Pennsylvania. Has his own webpage, verified.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 08, 2025 02:49 PM (Xr4QU)
77
46 But people like Giuliani or Alex Jones get $100 million-bajillion dollar damage claim for discussing conspiracy theories. Basically made homeless.
This guy is a leading climate scientist clearly involved in massive fraud, lies about his research and lies in court and gets a $500k slap after 10 years.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (4pwAx)
Great point.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (CNncw)
Absolutely. Mann's a fraud, has always been a fraud, always will be a fraud. Every dollar he's made on his bullshit was fraudulently obtained. He should be doing life in prison and have permanent debarment from receiving any federal funds ever again since his grants were based on his bullshit and lies.
This guy is a leading climate scientist clearly involved in massive fraud, lies about his research and lies in court and gets a $500k slap after 10 years.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 02:37 PM (4pwAx)
Great point.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (CNncw)
Absolutely. Mann's a fraud, has always been a fraud, always will be a fraud. Every dollar he's made on his bullshit was fraudulently obtained. He should be doing life in prison and have permanent debarment from receiving any federal funds ever again since his grants were based on his bullshit and lies.
Posted by: Figures at April 08, 2025 02:49 PM (TbWk/)
78
Now look at his predictions about birthrate and muzzies in Europe.
A few young Euro-women went to go join ISIS when it became a regional power.
They were all surprised to learn that the role of a woman in Islam is to "marry" a jihadi and give him a bunch of kids before he dies. They didn't get to choose their husband or when/if he'd have sex with them.
And this was all a shock to them.
Europeans are so sheltered and coddled...
Now look at his predictions about birthrate and muzzies in Europe.
A few young Euro-women went to go join ISIS when it became a regional power.
They were all surprised to learn that the role of a woman in Islam is to "marry" a jihadi and give him a bunch of kids before he dies. They didn't get to choose their husband or when/if he'd have sex with them.
And this was all a shock to them.
Europeans are so sheltered and coddled...
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (t0Rmr)
79
@ 35, no kidding, same here ... and no one said a word.
It forced me to the realization that "science" had been totally corrupted within my lifetime.
It forced me to the realization that "science" had been totally corrupted within my lifetime.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (/Ghsb)
80
Closer to 50. It started as The Coming Ice Age, then Global Warming, then Climate Change. The story changed every time the "experts" were proven wrong by time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
Under Carter there were about 2 or 3 cold winters in a row. Thus the coming Ice Age. That started the trend as far as I remember. Before that, eco-huxtering was about birds and such dying back to the 60s.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
Under Carter there were about 2 or 3 cold winters in a row. Thus the coming Ice Age. That started the trend as far as I remember. Before that, eco-huxtering was about birds and such dying back to the 60s.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (n7h9X)
81
IIRC all of the warming comes from the measurements of ONE tree.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Get it? All hockey sticks come from one tree!
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (t0Rmr)
Get it? All hockey sticks come from one tree!
Posted by: haffhowershower at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (NMT5x)
82
My favorite debunking of Climate Change hysterics is to totally agree with them, agree that Climate Change i happening, agree is is caused by carbon, agree that mankind makes the carbon agree that it is causing Global Warming -- AND THEN show them the numerous studies showing that the extra CO2 in the atmosphere and the increased moisture has caused a massive indisputable "Global Greening," such that there is now 7% more plant life on Earth than there was 25 years ago, that there is a consequent greater biodiversity, and all life on Earth is doing better and better than it has in millennia.
Ooops.
Ooops.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (pMi6S)
83
I'm guessing Penn, via our tax dollars, funded his decade of lawsuits without merit.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (zct9C)
*******
Mark Steyn should sue the University of Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (zct9C)
*******
Mark Steyn should sue the University of Pennsylvania.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (NpAcC)
84
does Mann own a house?
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (D7oie)
85
National Review didn't even support Mark Steyn in that whole thing.
Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (KQk9m)
86
I think the whole "climate crisis" horseshit started back when "Ecology" was a subject matter taught in public schools. Before that it was "Be a hoot, don't pollute." *
* Woodsy Owl - 1977
* Woodsy Owl - 1977
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (Q4IgG)
87
These are the martyrs.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
88
He should be doing life in prison and have permanent debarment from receiving any federal funds ever again since his grants were based on his bullshit and lies.
Posted by: Figures at April 08, 2025 02:49 PM (TbWk/)
If we barred people that are based on bullshit and lies how would we staff DC? Wait a minute....
Posted by: Figures at April 08, 2025 02:49 PM (TbWk/)
If we barred people that are based on bullshit and lies how would we staff DC? Wait a minute....
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (n7h9X)
89
National Review didn't even support Mark Steyn in that whole thing.
Well getting involved in that kind of thing made some of the Fair Lady Jessica's bulls angry. And...you wouldn't like them when they were angry
Well getting involved in that kind of thing made some of the Fair Lady Jessica's bulls angry. And...you wouldn't like them when they were angry
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg typing from his cuckshed at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (t0Rmr)
90
Closer to 50. It started as The Coming Ice Age, then Global Warming, then Climate Change.
Whenever someone says "It's not Global Warming, it's Climate Change." I respond, "Oh? And in what way is the climate changing? And on what scale?"
Whenever someone says "It's not Global Warming, it's Climate Change." I respond, "Oh? And in what way is the climate changing? And on what scale?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (DIweC)
91
Throw his ass in jail and he can work minimum wage until he pays it off.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (kIzwW)
92
These are the martyrs.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
Trump and Musk
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
Trump and Musk
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (n7h9X)
93
@87 bob, I would say Trump
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (6TePA)
94
Steyn lost the case with Mann. Originally, Mann was awarded $1 million, but that was reduced to $5K by the judge. Mann has been and always will be a fraud.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (Xr4QU)
95
What's This?
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
Wow, a hundred seventy douchenozzles. Well, pack it in, folks. We're defeated.
What's This?
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
Wow, a hundred seventy douchenozzles. Well, pack it in, folks. We're defeated.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (Ks1zr)
96
Maybe Greenpeace can loan Mr. Mann the money.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (wtvvX)
Greenpeace needs all their money too, since they are being sued for assault and something just short of terrorism.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (wtvvX)
Greenpeace needs all their money too, since they are being sued for assault and something just short of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (D7oie)
97
Throw his ass in jail and he can work minimum wage until he pays it off.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (kIzwW)
PA drivers all rolling around with banana shaped license plates with "Pennsylvania" spelled wrong....
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (kIzwW)
PA drivers all rolling around with banana shaped license plates with "Pennsylvania" spelled wrong....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (VoAdT)
98
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Agreed but almost every leftist news reader/pundit has done worse.
Agreed but almost every leftist news reader/pundit has done worse.
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (t0Rmr)
99
I think the whole "climate crisis" horseshit started back when "Ecology" was a subject matter taught in public schools. Before that it was "Be a hoot, don't pollute." *
* Woodsy Owl - 1977
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (Q4IgG)
Rachel Carson, Silent Spring. DDT being barred killed millions in the tropics annually, might still do.
* Woodsy Owl - 1977
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (Q4IgG)
Rachel Carson, Silent Spring. DDT being barred killed millions in the tropics annually, might still do.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (n7h9X)
100
35, no kidding, same here ... and no one said a word.
It forced me to the realization that "science" had been totally corrupted within my lifetime.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (/Ghsb)
The SCIENCE™ has been corrupted for a lot longer than that, as we've been finding out. What blows my mind isn't so much that they've been lying their asses off for multiple generations, it's that it took PDT and a KENNEDY of all people to really start ripping the scabs off.
It forced me to the realization that "science" had been totally corrupted within my lifetime.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (/Ghsb)
The SCIENCE™ has been corrupted for a lot longer than that, as we've been finding out. What blows my mind isn't so much that they've been lying their asses off for multiple generations, it's that it took PDT and a KENNEDY of all people to really start ripping the scabs off.
Posted by: Lysenkoism lives on at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (TbWk/)
101
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
---------------
What does the Intel Community have to say?
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What does the Intel Community have to say?
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (pZ64F)
102
67 I thought it was "proven" that the hockey stick graph was an intentionally fabricated lie. "Hide the Decline" and all that phony data.
Posted by: illiniwek
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Unfortunately, Mann has refused to release the raw data he allegedly used for the hockey stick. Don't think that came out in the case either.
Steyn got it for a) being associated with Rush Limbaugh show which is anathema to DC residents, and from memory, b) he compared Mann at Penn State to Jerry Sandusky. Rand Simberg did the same which Steyn repeated and only got $1000 damages for that comment for defamation.
Jury did not like Steyn is the apparent difference in the case regarding the ridiculous punitive damage differences between him and Simberg for the same alleged offense.
Posted by: illiniwek
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Unfortunately, Mann has refused to release the raw data he allegedly used for the hockey stick. Don't think that came out in the case either.
Steyn got it for a) being associated with Rush Limbaugh show which is anathema to DC residents, and from memory, b) he compared Mann at Penn State to Jerry Sandusky. Rand Simberg did the same which Steyn repeated and only got $1000 damages for that comment for defamation.
Jury did not like Steyn is the apparent difference in the case regarding the ridiculous punitive damage differences between him and Simberg for the same alleged offense.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (ctrM5)
103
"67 I thought it was "proven" that the hockey stick graph was an intentionally fabricated lie. "Hide the Decline" and all that phony data.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (Cus5s) "
yup, part of Emailgate, mentioned at 35 up above
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (Cus5s) "
yup, part of Emailgate, mentioned at 35 up above
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (/Ghsb)
104
Maybe Greenpeace can loan Mr. Mann the money.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (wtvvX)
Greenpeace needs all their money too, since they are being sued for assault and something just short of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (D7oie)
Not short of terrorism when they attacked whale boats.
I'm no fan of whale hunting personally but its legal.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 08, 2025 02:38 PM (wtvvX)
Greenpeace needs all their money too, since they are being sued for assault and something just short of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (D7oie)
Not short of terrorism when they attacked whale boats.
I'm no fan of whale hunting personally but its legal.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (n7h9X)
105
Right now I can see the base of the south tower of the Golden Gate Bridge.
The water level around the base (where the Pacific Ocean meets the San Francisco Bay). is at THE EXACT SAME LEVEL IT WAS IN 1937 when the bridge was built.
Totally unchanged.
Sea-level rise in 88 years: 0 inches.
Who are you gonna believe -- Michael Mann or your lying eyes?
The water level around the base (where the Pacific Ocean meets the San Francisco Bay). is at THE EXACT SAME LEVEL IT WAS IN 1937 when the bridge was built.
Totally unchanged.
Sea-level rise in 88 years: 0 inches.
Who are you gonna believe -- Michael Mann or your lying eyes?
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (pMi6S)
106
> Before that it was "Be a hoot, don't pollute." *
> * Woodsy Owl - 1977
I believe that was, "Give a hoot, don't pollute."
> * Woodsy Owl - 1977
I believe that was, "Give a hoot, don't pollute."
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lIio7)
107
82 My favorite debunking of Climate Change hysterics is to totally agree with them, agree that Climate Change i happening, agree is is caused by carbon, agree that mankind makes the carbon agree that it is causing Global Warming -....
Posted by: zombie
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The problem is that there are serious flaws in every step where you agree. (and fraud.)
There is also the next step, (a) will the rise in CO2 be cheaper to mitigate in the future if we use coal now to develop technological advances that allow carbon free fuel, and (b) is the cure going to be more expensive than the disease.
Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: zombie
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The problem is that there are serious flaws in every step where you agree. (and fraud.)
There is also the next step, (a) will the rise in CO2 be cheaper to mitigate in the future if we use coal now to develop technological advances that allow carbon free fuel, and (b) is the cure going to be more expensive than the disease.
Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq)
108
If we barred people that are based on bullshit and lies how would we staff DC? Wait a minute....
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (n7h9X)
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (n7h9X)
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Posted by: Now you're on to something at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (TbWk/)
109
95
What's This?
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
Wow, a hundred seventy douchenozzles. Well, pack it in, folks. We're defeated.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (Ks1zr)
Past or present Government Intelligence Experts...
What's This?
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
Wow, a hundred seventy douchenozzles. Well, pack it in, folks. We're defeated.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 02:53 PM (Ks1zr)
Past or present Government Intelligence Experts...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (QAkQ3)
110
> Throw his ass in jail and he can work minimum wage until he pays it off.
Make Debtor's Prisons great again!
Make Debtor's Prisons great again!
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (lIio7)
111
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
---------------
What does the Intel Community have to say?
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (pZ64F)
Did Hogg sign it too?
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What does the Intel Community have to say?
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (pZ64F)
Did Hogg sign it too?
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (n7h9X)
112
70 @49 Jay, Mann was at Penn State when this crap started. In 2022 or something like that he went to U of Penn
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (6TePA)
_______________
Ah, thank you. I didn't know that.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:47 PM (6TePA)
_______________
Ah, thank you. I didn't know that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (YqDXo)
113
85 National Review didn't even support Mark Steyn in that whole thing.
Posted by: steevy
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Yep, they cut him loose and fired him effectively. Gave him the Derbyshire treatment.
Which is why never assume that these various 'conservative' organizations will have your back if they think it will cost them donor money.
Posted by: steevy
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Yep, they cut him loose and fired him effectively. Gave him the Derbyshire treatment.
Which is why never assume that these various 'conservative' organizations will have your back if they think it will cost them donor money.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (ctrM5)
114
National Review didn't even support Mark Steyn in that whole thing.
Posted by: steevy
I can’t believe it.
Posted by: steevy
I can’t believe it.
Posted by: J Derbyshire at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (nIRE6)
115
I tell ya' horde, I tell ya'. It's rough out there, rough. I tell ya' it's driving me to drink. Now I drink too much. The last time I gave a urine sample it had an olive in it...
I tell ya' horde, I tell ya'. It's rough out there, rough. I tell ya' it's driving me to drink. Now I drink too much. The last time I gave a urine sample it had an olive in it...
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (5hfjS)
116
jones was lazy in his diagnosis of sandy hook and other incidents, in fact it was much worse what they were doing to
snuff out the 2nd Amendment,
the Courts acted mostly because some of his followers who acted irresponsibly, but is that a reason to lose a billion dollars,
snuff out the 2nd Amendment,
the Courts acted mostly because some of his followers who acted irresponsibly, but is that a reason to lose a billion dollars,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (bXbFr)
117
Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq)
NIMBY on a grand scale. Just don't try and sell me your morals
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq)
NIMBY on a grand scale. Just don't try and sell me your morals
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (n7h9X)
118
Mann had help in financing his ten-year lawsuit. Regular people can't afford to keep lawyers on retainer for a fraction of that time. Go after his funders as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (4M29A)
119
Dang it Whig.
Posted by: Kratwurst at April 08, 2025 02:57 PM (nIRE6)
120
Pretty sure he doesn't have the money to pay this. After his brief stint as a famous global warming guru he has not had any high paying gigs and is most likely broke.
He is just like matt savinar from the peak oil crowd. He once commanded hundreds of thousands of $$$$$ for speaking fees at big peak oil conventions and events while he was pushing the doomer pron that the world was running out of oil fast. Now he has been reduced to casting horoscopes in california to make a living.
He is just like matt savinar from the peak oil crowd. He once commanded hundreds of thousands of $$$$$ for speaking fees at big peak oil conventions and events while he was pushing the doomer pron that the world was running out of oil fast. Now he has been reduced to casting horoscopes in california to make a living.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (e5NfL)
121
170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's tariff policy.
___________
Probably one signed it, and the other 169 plagiarized his signature.
If economists are against it, that confirms it's sound policy.
___________
Probably one signed it, and the other 169 plagiarized his signature.
If economists are against it, that confirms it's sound policy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (YqDXo)
122
The climate change debate is another all or nothing discussion. The Left predict the end of the world because of man made climate change and understandably a lot on the Right respond mainly that everything is fine and man is too insignificant to cause anything. Then the Right gets tagged with not caring about the environment which is bullshit.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (/Ghsb)
124
Something about pride...and being a huge lying fraudulent corrupt scummy gasbag that causes a fall.
Something about pride...and being a huge lying fraudulent corrupt scummy gasbag that causes a fall.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (et1vG)
125
Which is why never assume that these various 'conservative' organizations will have your back if they think it will cost them donor money.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (ctrM5)
Never thought of them as Conservative in the first place. Can't trust a rich Country Club set from New England.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:56 PM (ctrM5)
Never thought of them as Conservative in the first place. Can't trust a rich Country Club set from New England.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (n7h9X)
126
I was promised free fusion energy by the end of the decade in 1972.
Time to start suein' some sonsabitches.
I was promised free fusion energy by the end of the decade in 1972.
Time to start suein' some sonsabitches.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (j4U/Z)
127
I found this to be really rich, coming from him.
"intending to intimidate and silence him."
Pots and kettles and all. especially when you consider the comment at #14 above.
"intending to intimidate and silence him."
Pots and kettles and all. especially when you consider the comment at #14 above.
Posted by: Gunslinger at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (R2gO3)
128
Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq)
______________
Simple. Chinese carbon dioxide doesn't cause global warming. Only American carbon dioxide does that.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq)
______________
Simple. Chinese carbon dioxide doesn't cause global warming. Only American carbon dioxide does that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (YqDXo)
129
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Agreed but almost every leftist news reader/pundit has done worse.
Posted by: 18-1
===
And I also agree, but saying a mass shooting could be a false flag event should be protected under the 1st Amendment.
The idea that because you were a parent of a victim, that means you get some big payday is ludicrous.
There's some undercover video taken where a CIA employee said they were the ones that encouraged those families to sue Alex Jones.
Agreed but almost every leftist news reader/pundit has done worse.
Posted by: 18-1
===
And I also agree, but saying a mass shooting could be a false flag event should be protected under the 1st Amendment.
The idea that because you were a parent of a victim, that means you get some big payday is ludicrous.
There's some undercover video taken where a CIA employee said they were the ones that encouraged those families to sue Alex Jones.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (4pwAx)
130
Europeans are so sheltered and coddled...
Posted by: 18-1
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By and large those in Western Europe have subject mentality instead of citizen. They depend on authority to tell them what to do, when to do it, and what is acceptable for them to think.
A lot of them are beginning to awaken from the EU opium dream partially due to the internet starting to break their programming but the time is late for them to do so in order to save their countries.
Posted by: 18-1
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By and large those in Western Europe have subject mentality instead of citizen. They depend on authority to tell them what to do, when to do it, and what is acceptable for them to think.
A lot of them are beginning to awaken from the EU opium dream partially due to the internet starting to break their programming but the time is late for them to do so in order to save their countries.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (ctrM5)
131
Whenever someone says "It's not Global Warming, it's Climate Change." I respond, "Oh? And in what way is the climate changing? And on what scale?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (DIweC)
And when, throughout the history of the world, has the climate NOT been changing?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (DIweC)
And when, throughout the history of the world, has the climate NOT been changing?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (QAkQ3)
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Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's tariff policy.
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Probably one signed it, and the other 169 plagiarized his signature.
If economists are against it, that confirms it's sound policy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (YqDXo)
Why the hell does Harvard have 170 fricking Economists? They having the janitors sign too?
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Probably one signed it, and the other 169 plagiarized his signature.
If economists are against it, that confirms it's sound policy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (YqDXo)
Why the hell does Harvard have 170 fricking Economists? They having the janitors sign too?
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (n7h9X)
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170 Harvard "Economists" sign article condemning President Trump's traiff policy.
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What does the Intel Community have to say?
Posted by: Pudinhead
Oddly enough, the CIA funds 170 positions at the Harvard Department of Economics.
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What does the Intel Community have to say?
Posted by: Pudinhead
Oddly enough, the CIA funds 170 positions at the Harvard Department of Economics.
Posted by: Michael Mann, NHL Hall-of-Famer at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (w9Wax)
134
I get no respect, no respect at all I tell ya'. This morning when I put on my underwear I could hear the fruit-of-the-loom guys laughing at me...
I get no respect, no respect at all I tell ya'. This morning when I put on my underwear I could hear the fruit-of-the-loom guys laughing at me...
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (5hfjS)
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107 82 My favorite debunking of Climate Change hysterics is to totally agree with them, agree that Climate Change i happening, agree is is caused by carbon, agree that mankind makes the carbon agree that it is causing Global Warming -....
Posted by: zombie
The problem is that there are serious flaws in every step where you agree. (and fraud.)
There is also the next step, (a) will the rise in CO2 be cheaper to mitigate in the future if we use coal now to develop technological advances that allow carbon free fuel, and (b) is the cure going to be more expensive than the disease.
Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
I'm not saying that I actually do agree with all their fake-ass science--I'm saying that you can defeat them in conversation by not even disputing any of it, but then note that THEIR OWN SCIENTISTS have "proven" that Global Warming is actually a good thing. If anything, we should pump MORE carbon into the atmosphere. Pure plant food.
I've done this in actual conversations, and it totally deflates them.
Posted by: zombie
The problem is that there are serious flaws in every step where you agree. (and fraud.)
There is also the next step, (a) will the rise in CO2 be cheaper to mitigate in the future if we use coal now to develop technological advances that allow carbon free fuel, and (b) is the cure going to be more expensive than the disease.
Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
I'm not saying that I actually do agree with all their fake-ass science--I'm saying that you can defeat them in conversation by not even disputing any of it, but then note that THEIR OWN SCIENTISTS have "proven" that Global Warming is actually a good thing. If anything, we should pump MORE carbon into the atmosphere. Pure plant food.
I've done this in actual conversations, and it totally deflates them.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (pMi6S)
136
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (+sD5M)
137
Never thought of them as Conservative in the first place. Can't trust a rich Country Club set from New England.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (n7h9X)
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Not true. You can trust them to stab conservatives in the back.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (n7h9X)
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Not true. You can trust them to stab conservatives in the back.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (YqDXo)
138
"It's not Global Warming, it's Climate Change." I respond, "Oh? And in what way is the climate changing? And on what scale?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (DIweC)
And when, throughout the history of the world, has the climate NOT been changing?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (QAkQ3)
Modern day King Canutes, trying to stop the weather.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (DIweC)
And when, throughout the history of the world, has the climate NOT been changing?
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (QAkQ3)
Modern day King Canutes, trying to stop the weather.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (+sD5M)
140
the Mark Steyn lawsuits, esp. the one with Canada, is something else...long, but boring too! https://tinyurl.com/ycyuuh87
Posted by: zigggggy at April 08, 2025 03:01 PM (K5Rdg)
141
NR ... a "powerful organization." Heh ... I'm so old I remember the desperation letters from NR, begging even a poor college kid like me for cash. (Yep, we had real letters in envelops back in those days). Today NR seems to have grown rich and/or influential (?) on Bulwark style grift. How times have changed indeed
Posted by: YellowBird at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (MEbkQ)
142
and guiliani wasn't allowed to present any evidence because of judge howell, the one that relented on the probationary hires
Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (bXbFr)
143
Herbie Mann >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (+sD5M)
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IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE, MICHAEL MAN USES HOCKEY STICKS AND HOCKEY STICKS ARE MADE IN CANADA.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (/U5Yz)
145
Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
Should, but there's enough people who don't buy into it. It's been brute forced into our lives by people who for the most part don't even believe in it, which isn't the same thing as a mass delusion.
I would personally put at the top the fact that the world was attacked with a bioweapon that killed millions, including a million *Americans*, the media and elites helped perpetrate and FUD it, and everyone in the world essentially just goes about their business like that's normal. That's mass delusion.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
Should, but there's enough people who don't buy into it. It's been brute forced into our lives by people who for the most part don't even believe in it, which isn't the same thing as a mass delusion.
I would personally put at the top the fact that the world was attacked with a bioweapon that killed millions, including a million *Americans*, the media and elites helped perpetrate and FUD it, and everyone in the world essentially just goes about their business like that's normal. That's mass delusion.
Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (E0p3T)
146
also 114, LOL!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (/Ghsb)
147
Probably one signed it, and the other 169 plagiarized his signature.
If economists are against it, that confirms it's sound policy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (YqDXo)
Yup, if'n those Havhad Economists knew shit about the economy, they'd be so rich they would not be Teaching at Havhad...
If economists are against it, that confirms it's sound policy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (YqDXo)
Yup, if'n those Havhad Economists knew shit about the economy, they'd be so rich they would not be Teaching at Havhad...
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (QAkQ3)
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“Dr. Mann’s assertion that there was no falsehood or misrepresentation in his testimony or his counsel’s conduct borders on frivolity.”
“the record plainly shows the deliberate and knowing misconduct of Dr. Mann’s counsel in eliciting false testimony from Dr. Mann and misrepresenting his grant funding.”
“Dr. Mann’s counsel’s bad faith misconduct is an affront to the Court’s authority and an attack on the integrity of the proceedings warranting sanctions.”
“the record plainly shows the deliberate and knowing misconduct of Dr. Mann’s counsel in eliciting false testimony from Dr. Mann and misrepresenting his grant funding.”
“Dr. Mann’s counsel’s bad faith misconduct is an affront to the Court’s authority and an attack on the integrity of the proceedings warranting sanctions.”
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (XeU6L)
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60 The second Steyn quote from 2003:
Europe is dying. As I’ve pointed out here before, it can’t square rising welfare costs, a collapsed birthrate and a manpower dependent on the world’s least skilled, least assimilable immigrants. In 20 years’ time, as those Dutch Muslim teenagers are entering the voting booths, European countries, unlike parts of Nigeria, will not be living under Sharia, but they will be reaching their accommodations with their radicalised Islamic compatriots, who like many intolerant types are expert at exploiting the ‘tolerance’ of pluralist societies.
I'd say that Steyn accurately forecast the future, with Western European politicians participating in Iftar dinners and celebrating the glories of Ramadan.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (xTIDn)
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I'd say he did, too. Good find.
If they think they have problems now, they're going to miss these rather calm days compared to the next 20 years.
Europe is dying. As I’ve pointed out here before, it can’t square rising welfare costs, a collapsed birthrate and a manpower dependent on the world’s least skilled, least assimilable immigrants. In 20 years’ time, as those Dutch Muslim teenagers are entering the voting booths, European countries, unlike parts of Nigeria, will not be living under Sharia, but they will be reaching their accommodations with their radicalised Islamic compatriots, who like many intolerant types are expert at exploiting the ‘tolerance’ of pluralist societies.
I'd say that Steyn accurately forecast the future, with Western European politicians participating in Iftar dinners and celebrating the glories of Ramadan.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (xTIDn)
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I'd say he did, too. Good find.
If they think they have problems now, they're going to miss these rather calm days compared to the next 20 years.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (6ydKt)
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Are the courts starting to realize what a laughingstock they have become?
Posted by: Wally at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (NXYp1)
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These are the martyrs.
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
He's the first to admit he was wrong, and has taken steps to keep himself from doing anything like that again.
However, the court used bullshit claims, regarding the "damage" he did to the families of the victims, and then went after him in the worst possible way, giving him no legal angles to defend himself against the stupid claims of damage.
They did what they did, and didn't hide they were doing it, to discourage anyone else from making any use of the airwaves to assert narratives they don't like.
Had NOTHING to do with damages.
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
He's the first to admit he was wrong, and has taken steps to keep himself from doing anything like that again.
However, the court used bullshit claims, regarding the "damage" he did to the families of the victims, and then went after him in the worst possible way, giving him no legal angles to defend himself against the stupid claims of damage.
They did what they did, and didn't hide they were doing it, to discourage anyone else from making any use of the airwaves to assert narratives they don't like.
Had NOTHING to do with damages.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:03 PM (dGCAG)
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Whenever someone says "It's not Global Warming, it's Climate Change."
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"You just changed the name because you were tired of being wrong-footed by blizzards every time Algore was to give a speech on global warming."
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"You just changed the name because you were tired of being wrong-footed by blizzards every time Algore was to give a speech on global warming."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 03:03 PM (YqDXo)
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He is just like matt savinar from the peak oil crowd. He once commanded hundreds of thousands of $$$$$ for speaking fees at big peak oil conventions and events while he was pushing the doomer pron that the world was running out of oil fast. Now he has been reduced to casting horoscopes in california to make a living.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (e5NfL)
Kind of telling that a DOOMer wasn't saving any money for a rainy day in the future himself.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 02:58 PM (e5NfL)
Kind of telling that a DOOMer wasn't saving any money for a rainy day in the future himself.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:03 PM (n7h9X)
154
If Trump went he wanted 0 tariffs the Marxists would scream to load up on tariffs
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 03:03 PM (ypFCm)
155
Ann Coulter was the first NR conservative victim. She scared them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (VofaG)
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I'm not saying that I actually do agree with all their fake-ass science--I'm saying that you can defeat them in conversation by not even disputing any of it, but then note that THEIR OWN SCIENTISTS have "proven" that Global Warming is actually a good thing. If anything, we should pump MORE carbon into the atmosphere. Pure plant food.
I've done this in actual conversations, and it totally deflates them.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (pMi6S)
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Be sure to finish it all off by telling them to stop exhaling all of their CO2 all over you.
I've done this in actual conversations, and it totally deflates them.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 03:00 PM (pMi6S)
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Be sure to finish it all off by telling them to stop exhaling all of their CO2 all over you.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (6ydKt)
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Herbie Mann >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (+sD5M)
Aimee Mann. Better than any other Mann on the planet.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (+sD5M)
Aimee Mann. Better than any other Mann on the planet.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (dGCAG)
158
"Scientists say..." or "Experts say..." is now so illegitimate to me. They have created their own demise and are shocked that a lot of people are skeptical of any thing they say other than water is wet.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (oiNtH)
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what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China?
It pads the trust funds of rich white kids so they can become full-time Climate Change activists.
It pads the trust funds of rich white kids so they can become full-time Climate Change activists.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (DIweC)
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> I believe that was, "Give a hoot, don't pollute."
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Yea... this predictive spellcheck that somehow has infected my browser is giving me fits. I know what I type, but it gets changed and I don't look.
Anyway, the "ecology" topic was something I got indoctrinated by in junior high. Whole months were dedicated to pollution, saving the erf, the coming ice age, heat wave, rising oceans, evaporating oceans, acid rain, etc.
It didn't help that my mom was all in on it. At least for a while. I think after a couple years she sort of figured out it was horseshit. But we did pick up our trash...
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Yea... this predictive spellcheck that somehow has infected my browser is giving me fits. I know what I type, but it gets changed and I don't look.
Anyway, the "ecology" topic was something I got indoctrinated by in junior high. Whole months were dedicated to pollution, saving the erf, the coming ice age, heat wave, rising oceans, evaporating oceans, acid rain, etc.
It didn't help that my mom was all in on it. At least for a while. I think after a couple years she sort of figured out it was horseshit. But we did pick up our trash...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (Q4IgG)
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Never thought of them as Conservative in the first place. Can't trust a rich Country Club set from New England.
Posted by: Oldcat
That is why I used the air quotes around conservative. NR masked its decline by climbing aboard GWB's idiocy train in the 00's. But, they actually had conservative writers at one time--O'Sullivan, Sobran, Buchanan, Florence King, Derbyshire, that were cut loose or retired one by one.
What was left was corporatist "Invade the World, Invite the World" types that despised common folks. Kevin Williamson is a posterboy for such.
Posted by: Oldcat
That is why I used the air quotes around conservative. NR masked its decline by climbing aboard GWB's idiocy train in the 00's. But, they actually had conservative writers at one time--O'Sullivan, Sobran, Buchanan, Florence King, Derbyshire, that were cut loose or retired one by one.
What was left was corporatist "Invade the World, Invite the World" types that despised common folks. Kevin Williamson is a posterboy for such.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (ctrM5)
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Black high school student and track athlete Karmelo Anthony's parents have a GiveSendGo fund set up for legal defense for him after he murdered an opposing athlete at a track meet in Plano, Texas.
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
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Why the hell does Harvard have 170 fricking Economists? They having the janitors sign too?
Posted by: Oldcat
Former and current professors, graduates, etc.
It's really just 170 fuckfaces affiliated with Harvard Univ.
Why the hell does Harvard have 170 fricking Economists? They having the janitors sign too?
Posted by: Oldcat
Former and current professors, graduates, etc.
It's really just 170 fuckfaces affiliated with Harvard Univ.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (F6zF9)
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One bullshit grant from USAID would have taken care of this at our expense.
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (qL8Uu)
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And I also agree, but saying a mass shooting could be a false flag event should be protected under the 1st Amendment.
The idea that because you were a parent of a victim, that means you get some big payday is ludicrous.
There's some undercover video taken where a CIA employee said they were the ones that encouraged those families to sue Alex Jones.
Posted by: Leupold
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Oh, I agree and that was why I put him on the list of martyrs.
I saw the videos and do not think it was faked, I do see why some would be suspect. After fast and furious and L.V., doubt should be expected.
And regardless, the judgment was insane.
I thought this was America.
The idea that because you were a parent of a victim, that means you get some big payday is ludicrous.
There's some undercover video taken where a CIA employee said they were the ones that encouraged those families to sue Alex Jones.
Posted by: Leupold
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Oh, I agree and that was why I put him on the list of martyrs.
I saw the videos and do not think it was faked, I do see why some would be suspect. After fast and furious and L.V., doubt should be expected.
And regardless, the judgment was insane.
I thought this was America.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (lTnrq)
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Simple. Chinese carbon dioxide doesn't cause global warming. Only American carbon dioxide does that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (YqDXo)
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Like the Sun, Climate, Cancer, Math, Human Virtues, et. al. -- Carbon Dioxide is now "Racist."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 02:59 PM (YqDXo)
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Like the Sun, Climate, Cancer, Math, Human Virtues, et. al. -- Carbon Dioxide is now "Racist."
Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (STC6P)
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Ann Coulter was the first NR conservative victim. She scared them.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (VofaG)
John Birch Society called to say hellooo.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (VofaG)
John Birch Society called to say hellooo.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (dGCAG)
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End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
BREAKING: Federal agencies spent more than $4.6 billion on furniture since 2021, despite employees working from home
https://tinyurl.com/bdh28nsf
@EndWokeness
BREAKING: Federal agencies spent more than $4.6 billion on furniture since 2021, despite employees working from home
https://tinyurl.com/bdh28nsf
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (NpAcC)
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Expecting justice from a court is like banging a chick carrying a "Free Love" sign and being surprised that you caught the clap.
Expecting justice from a court is like banging a chick carrying a "Free Love" sign and being surprised that you caught the clap.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (j4U/Z)
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158 "Scientists say..." or "Experts say..." is now so illegitimate to me. They have created their own demise and are shocked that a lot of people are skeptical of any thing they say other than water is wet.
Posted by: Cheri
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At the end of the day, most are no better than prostitutes because they will say what gets them pay.
Posted by: Cheri
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At the end of the day, most are no better than prostitutes because they will say what gets them pay.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (ctrM5)
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141, probably from usaid just like all of our other enemies
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (/Ghsb)
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I'd say he did, too. Good find.
If they think they have problems now, they're going to miss these rather calm days compared to the next 20 years.
We are now a quarter of the way through the 21st Century.
Given how the first quarter has gone, by the end of the century the Western European states will not be identifiably European in any meaningful sense.
It's why the ruling class of Western Europe is now fixated on fighting Russia - they want an external enemy, so their subject populations don't notice what is happening to their countries.
If they think they have problems now, they're going to miss these rather calm days compared to the next 20 years.
We are now a quarter of the way through the 21st Century.
Given how the first quarter has gone, by the end of the century the Western European states will not be identifiably European in any meaningful sense.
It's why the ruling class of Western Europe is now fixated on fighting Russia - they want an external enemy, so their subject populations don't notice what is happening to their countries.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (xTIDn)
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NR ... a "powerful organization." Heh ... I'm so old I remember the desperation letters from NR, begging even a poor college kid like me for cash. (Yep, we had real letters in envelops back in those days). Today NR seems to have grown rich and/or influential (?) on Bulwark style grift. How times have changed indeed
Posted by: YellowBird at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (MEbkQ)
They are neither rich nor influential. I don't hear much from them even to scorn them on the interwebs. Its hard to live off the corpse of Buckeley forever.
Posted by: YellowBird at April 08, 2025 03:02 PM (MEbkQ)
They are neither rich nor influential. I don't hear much from them even to scorn them on the interwebs. Its hard to live off the corpse of Buckeley forever.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (n7h9X)
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@EndWokeness
BREAKING: Federal agencies spent more than $4.6 billion on furniture since 2021, despite employees working from home
https://tinyurl.com/bdh28nsf
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (NpAcC)
I really wouldn't call for the taxpayers to start burning federal buildings down because they've been raping us blind for decades and too many of us can't afford to live life due to the tax burden incurred........
BREAKING: Federal agencies spent more than $4.6 billion on furniture since 2021, despite employees working from home
https://tinyurl.com/bdh28nsf
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (NpAcC)
I really wouldn't call for the taxpayers to start burning federal buildings down because they've been raping us blind for decades and too many of us can't afford to live life due to the tax burden incurred........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (+sD5M)
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Manfred Mann >>Herbie Mann >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Mann
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (/U5Yz)
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158 "Scientists say..." or "Experts say..." is now so illegitimate to me. They have created their own demise and are shocked that a lot of people are skeptical of any thing they say other than water is wet.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (oiNtH)
Unamed Sources... or confidential sources... in other words.... I made shit up.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:04 PM (oiNtH)
Unamed Sources... or confidential sources... in other words.... I made shit up.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (QAkQ3)
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Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (ctrM5)
I'm so proud that I have referred to National Review as New Republic for as long as I can even remember. I lead a sad existence.
I'm so proud that I have referred to National Review as New Republic for as long as I can even remember. I lead a sad existence.
Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (E0p3T)
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Oh, I agree and that was why I put him on the list of martyrs.
I saw the videos and do not think it was faked, I do see why some would be suspect. After fast and furious and L.V., doubt should be expected.
And regardless, the judgment was insane.
I thought this was America.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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I dont believe they were faked either, but somehow we had the DNC chairman basically accuse the Bush family of orchestrating 9/11, awards showered on michael Moore, 9/11 was an inside job and Giuliani was in on it, etc and I dont remember one lawsuit happening.
Different standard for left vs right conspiracy theories and damages awarded.
I saw the videos and do not think it was faked, I do see why some would be suspect. After fast and furious and L.V., doubt should be expected.
And regardless, the judgment was insane.
I thought this was America.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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I dont believe they were faked either, but somehow we had the DNC chairman basically accuse the Bush family of orchestrating 9/11, awards showered on michael Moore, 9/11 was an inside job and Giuliani was in on it, etc and I dont remember one lawsuit happening.
Different standard for left vs right conspiracy theories and damages awarded.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (4pwAx)
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27 Also, no one would have taken his case on a contingency, so someone was paying his own attorney at an hourly rate for ten years. No way he was paying that personally.
He admitted under oath that he was not paying his legal fees.
Some left wing nutcases we’re of course
I love Mark Steyn , adore him
He had 3 Heart attacks because of the stress this ass put upon him
He finally sounds better, but he’ll never be 100%
He admitted under oath that he was not paying his legal fees.
Some left wing nutcases we’re of course
I love Mark Steyn , adore him
He had 3 Heart attacks because of the stress this ass put upon him
He finally sounds better, but he’ll never be 100%
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (O/k6C)
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Isn't it sad when shitty things happen to shitty people.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (jvJvP)
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Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (ctrM5)
They didn't climb on GWB's train. They were with you guys opposing Harriet Miers and Dock screening and a number of other issues regard to the War on Terror.
They didn't climb on GWB's train. They were with you guys opposing Harriet Miers and Dock screening and a number of other issues regard to the War on Terror.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (VofaG)
182
Simple. Chinese carbon dioxide doesn't cause global warming. Only American carbon dioxide does that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Trust him
He's pre-chem
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Trust him
He's pre-chem
Posted by: My Delta name is Miklos at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (RgW1J)
183
161 Never thought of them as Conservative in the first place. Can't trust a rich Country Club set from New England.
Posted by: Oldcat
---------------
Roundheads are to be avoided. Crazy Quakers are worse.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Roundheads are to be avoided. Crazy Quakers are worse.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (pZ64F)
184
Today NR seems to have grown rich and/or influential (?) on Bulwark style grift.
They became toadies for the tech companies, in exchange for supporting the policies that the tech companies want.
They became toadies for the tech companies, in exchange for supporting the policies that the tech companies want.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (xTIDn)
185
92 These are the martyrs.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
_________________________
I think you have to put the "Honey Badger", Peter Navarro in that list. That dude is an economic hard ass and went to prison because he refused to comply with the J6 lynch mob.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
_________________________
I think you have to put the "Honey Badger", Peter Navarro in that list. That dude is an economic hard ass and went to prison because he refused to comply with the J6 lynch mob.
Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (dIske)
186
Hockey Stick be damned. Michael Mann makes a hell of a film.
Posted by: Francis at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (bbuBP)
187
Ya' know horde I've been interested in genealogy lately. So I looked up my family tree and found out I was the sap
Ya' know horde I've been interested in genealogy lately. So I looked up my family tree and found out I was the sap
Posted by: Zombie Rodney Dangerfield at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (5hfjS)
188
Black high school student and track athlete Karmelo Anthony's parents have a GiveSendGo fund set up for legal defense for him after he murdered an opposing athlete at a track meet in Plano, Texas.
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
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Mangione/Anthony 2028 -- Make Murderer's Row Great Again!
/their campaign would easily raise over $1 billion ...
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
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Mangione/Anthony 2028 -- Make Murderer's Row Great Again!
/their campaign would easily raise over $1 billion ...
Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (x8RlK)
189
"Federal agencies spent more than $4.6 billion on furniture since 2021"
Now do domestic case goods sales volume for the same period.
Now do domestic case goods sales volume for the same period.
Posted by: Auspex at April 08, 2025 03:10 PM (j4U/Z)
190
Marine Le Pen is leading the field of potential French presidential candidates with 36% preference in the latest poll. Second in the running is " a fresh baguette".
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:10 PM (rj6Yv)
191
"Mann argued that the move was a 'mean-spirited and unjustified request by a powerful organization' intending to intimidate and silence him."
Not even a hint of irony there
Not even a hint of irony there
Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at April 08, 2025 03:10 PM (kyc0U)
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Since I like to give an occasional peek into the future for those unfortunate enough to pay attention to my foil-based ramblings, here's one:
Once the Left embraces their racism entirely and without equivocation, they will even do Voxplainers on how the problem with Hitler wasn't akshually racism, it was just that he was white. We're already close, they're just not quite saying it yet.
Once the Left embraces their racism entirely and without equivocation, they will even do Voxplainers on how the problem with Hitler wasn't akshually racism, it was just that he was white. We're already close, they're just not quite saying it yet.
Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)
193
https://is.gd/LBkzWG
@bennyjohnson
Journalist Ben Bergquam says Cartels are PAYING OFF Judges To Block President Trump from Deporting Terrorists:
"Going to find direct financial contributions from the cartels to these judges. We will find it. Go after the bankers and where the money is being laundered."
[video]
https://is.gd/G3Oyok
@itscarterhughes
HOLY COW! President Trump wasn't joking... He's called for Congress to ABOLISH the income tax. This is HUGE!
[video]
(I saw a comment about this one in the Morning Report thread, but if it was mentioned in the post I missed it)
@bennyjohnson
Journalist Ben Bergquam says Cartels are PAYING OFF Judges To Block President Trump from Deporting Terrorists:
"Going to find direct financial contributions from the cartels to these judges. We will find it. Go after the bankers and where the money is being laundered."
[video]
https://is.gd/G3Oyok
@itscarterhughes
HOLY COW! President Trump wasn't joking... He's called for Congress to ABOLISH the income tax. This is HUGE!
[video]
(I saw a comment about this one in the Morning Report thread, but if it was mentioned in the post I missed it)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 08, 2025 03:11 PM (Vqx30)
194
Given how the first quarter has gone, by the end of the century the Western European states will not be identifiably European in any meaningful sense.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (xTIDn)
They already are not European. They are Globalists, indistinguishable from Globalists from anywhere else in the world. And their solutions are nothing like the host countries would do. Is England building a Navy? Is Germany invading Poland? No, to invade Russia the answer is to borrow a lot of money and steal it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (xTIDn)
They already are not European. They are Globalists, indistinguishable from Globalists from anywhere else in the world. And their solutions are nothing like the host countries would do. Is England building a Navy? Is Germany invading Poland? No, to invade Russia the answer is to borrow a lot of money and steal it.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:11 PM (n7h9X)
195
My final split with NR occured when they axed John Derbyshire.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (XeU6L)
196
Black high school student and track athlete Karmelo Anthony's parents have a GiveSendGo fund set up for legal defense for him after he murdered an opposing athlete at a track meet in Plano, Texas.
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
How many white women will try and date him while he's in prison?
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
How many white women will try and date him while he's in prison?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (/U5Yz)
197
I dont believe they were faked either, but somehow we had the DNC chairman basically accuse the Bush family of orchestrating 9/11, awards showered on michael Moore, 9/11 was an inside job and Giuliani was in on it, etc and I dont remember one lawsuit happening.
Different standard for left vs right conspiracy theories and damages awarded.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (4pwAx)
There are even some today who would tell you a group of Orthodox Jews took hammers to Building 7 to bring it down.
Just because.
But they're just exercising their First Amendment rights, you hater you.
Different standard for left vs right conspiracy theories and damages awarded.
Posted by: Leupold at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (4pwAx)
There are even some today who would tell you a group of Orthodox Jews took hammers to Building 7 to bring it down.
Just because.
But they're just exercising their First Amendment rights, you hater you.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (dGCAG)
198
Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (lIio7)
199
‘I was blinded by science!’
Posted by: Eromero at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (jgmnb)
200
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
Less money for "In this house..." signs.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
Less money for "In this house..." signs.
Posted by: Miklos sees Upsides at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (RgW1J)
201
"Federal agencies spent more than $4.6 billion on furniture since 2021"
Who do you think furnished our apartments?
Who do you think furnished our apartments?
Posted by: Biden's Border Swarm at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (NCclz)
202
lol?
Canada's milktoast "conservative" Pierre Poullverierrier is having a "Canada First" rally.
Gee, canada first. I wonder where he got that idea.
lol?
Canada's milktoast "conservative" Pierre Poullverierrier is having a "Canada First" rally.
Gee, canada first. I wonder where he got that idea.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (F6zF9)
203
Mangione/Anthony 2028 -- Make Murderer's Row Great Again!
/their campaign would easily raise over $1 billion ...
Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (x8RlK)
Heh......true story.
The kid sat under the wrong tent on purpose and when asked to leave, he said "try it and see what happens."
The victim attempted to grab his backpack, from which he pulled a knife and stabbed the victim in the chest, killing him in minutes.
/their campaign would easily raise over $1 billion ...
Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:09 PM (x8RlK)
Heh......true story.
The kid sat under the wrong tent on purpose and when asked to leave, he said "try it and see what happens."
The victim attempted to grab his backpack, from which he pulled a knife and stabbed the victim in the chest, killing him in minutes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (+sD5M)
204
Once the Left embraces their racism entirely and without equivocation, they will even do Voxplainers on how the problem with Hitler wasn't akshually racism, it was just that he was white. We're already close, they're just not quite saying it yet.
Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)
They are already dropping racism. The advanced front is Trans, where they can manufacture their elite oppressed group themselves.
Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:11 PM (E0p3T)
They are already dropping racism. The advanced front is Trans, where they can manufacture their elite oppressed group themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (n7h9X)
205
They didn't climb on GWB's train. They were with you guys opposing Harriet Miers and Dock screening and a number of other issues regard to the War on Terror.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
Not really. Ed Whelan had his own cronies that he wanted as an alternative including John Roberts. Regarding the war on terror, none of them suggested keeping Muslims out of the country and closing the borders other than Ann Coulter who they fired because of it.
From wiki
"In 2001, as a contributing editor and syndicated columnist for National Review Online (NRO), Coulter was asked by editors to make changes to a piece written after the September 11 attacks. On the show Politically Incorrect, Coulter accused NRO of censorship and said she was paid $5 per article. NRO dropped her column and terminated her editorship. Jonah Goldberg, the editor-at-large of NRO, said: "We did not 'fire' Ann for what she wrote... we ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty [concerning the editing disagreement]."
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
Not really. Ed Whelan had his own cronies that he wanted as an alternative including John Roberts. Regarding the war on terror, none of them suggested keeping Muslims out of the country and closing the borders other than Ann Coulter who they fired because of it.
From wiki
"In 2001, as a contributing editor and syndicated columnist for National Review Online (NRO), Coulter was asked by editors to make changes to a piece written after the September 11 attacks. On the show Politically Incorrect, Coulter accused NRO of censorship and said she was paid $5 per article. NRO dropped her column and terminated her editorship. Jonah Goldberg, the editor-at-large of NRO, said: "We did not 'fire' Ann for what she wrote... we ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty [concerning the editing disagreement]."
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
206
How many white women will try and date him while he's in prison?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
How many public school teachers already have?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
How many public school teachers already have?
Posted by: Miklos suspects at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (RgW1J)
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This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
Which society......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
Which society......
Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (E0p3T)
208
Happy birthday bonhomme , many more. You too JJ
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (6TePA)
209
As Belushi once said "your women! How much for the little girls?!"
Posted by: Kamala's Throat at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (W+TLY)
210
How many white women will try and date him while he's in prison?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (/U5Yz)
His fan mail bag will be filled, I'm sure.
As I said. Damaged......
How many white women will try and date him while he's in prison?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (/U5Yz)
His fan mail bag will be filled, I'm sure.
As I said. Damaged......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (+sD5M)
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198 Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme
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Congrats and have a good one.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Congrats and have a good one.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (ctrM5)
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canada first, okay.
EU first, okay.
china first, more than okay!
but America First? No way okay.
canada first, okay.
EU first, okay.
china first, more than okay!
but America First? No way okay.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (au4p0)
213
Is Michael Mann married to Juwanna Mann?
Posted by: Wally at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (NXYp1)
214
At the end of the day, most are no better than prostitutes because they will say what gets them pay.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (ctrM5)
"Economic Experts" would be a great band name.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:06 PM (ctrM5)
"Economic Experts" would be a great band name.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (rj6Yv)
215
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Posted by: MACAUSLOT 88 at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (qRDZn)
216
Black high school student and track athlete Karmelo Anthony's parents have a GiveSendGo fund set up for legal defense for him after he murdered an opposing athlete at a track meet in Plano, Texas.
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
Would there be any way for the family of the murdered kid to seize those funds? Or get the GSG shut down?
It's almost up to $200k.
This society is irreparably damaged.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:05 PM (+sD5M)
Would there be any way for the family of the murdered kid to seize those funds? Or get the GSG shut down?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (8zz6B)
217
Canada's milktoast "conservative" Pierre Poullverierrier is having a "Canada First" rally.
Gee, canada first. I wonder where he got that idea.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (F6zF9)
I thought this guy might be good for Canada, but now he looks just the same. Well, welcome Alberta as 51 state. Can't wait to see a little maple leaf among the stars.
Gee, canada first. I wonder where he got that idea.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (F6zF9)
I thought this guy might be good for Canada, but now he looks just the same. Well, welcome Alberta as 51 state. Can't wait to see a little maple leaf among the stars.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (n7h9X)
218
Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (lIio7)
Happy B-Day!
You share one with JJ!!! Blessed.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (lIio7)
Happy B-Day!
You share one with JJ!!! Blessed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (+sD5M)
219
> Black high school student and track athlete Karmelo Anthony's parents have a GiveSendGo fund set up for legal defense for him after he murdered an opposing athlete at a track meet in Plano, Texas.
It's almost up to $200k.
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Here's what should happen; a lawyer is introduced to the family who promises to get the kid off the hook. Knows all the judges, etc, etc. Get him/her hired.
Tank the defense so bad the kid has to be sent to prison. While taking $200K from his grifting asshole parents.
It's almost up to $200k.
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Here's what should happen; a lawyer is introduced to the family who promises to get the kid off the hook. Knows all the judges, etc, etc. Get him/her hired.
Tank the defense so bad the kid has to be sent to prison. While taking $200K from his grifting asshole parents.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (Q4IgG)
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Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme
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You do realize that you've reached the halfway point...probably more.
Posted by: bonhomme
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You do realize that you've reached the halfway point...probably more.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (XeU6L)
221
Is Michael Mann married to Juwanna Mann?
I thought her name was Noyuda? Off to ask the machine...
I thought her name was Noyuda? Off to ask the machine...
Posted by: t-bird at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (eST6G)
222
They are neither rich nor influential. I don't hear much from them even to scorn them on the interwebs. Its hard to live off the corpse of Buckley forever.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (n7h9X)
Can't disagree with you there ... Buckley was never perfect, but he was a smart and interesting narrator of the day. When his light faded, NR lost the edge - and the writing talent - it once had. Malachi Martin and D Keith Mano (boy, I never thought of putting those two in the same sentence) and others, always drove me to the back pages the latest issue. It was this thinking man's equivalent to a new comic for a 12 year old.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (n7h9X)
Can't disagree with you there ... Buckley was never perfect, but he was a smart and interesting narrator of the day. When his light faded, NR lost the edge - and the writing talent - it once had. Malachi Martin and D Keith Mano (boy, I never thought of putting those two in the same sentence) and others, always drove me to the back pages the latest issue. It was this thinking man's equivalent to a new comic for a 12 year old.
Posted by: YellowBird at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (MEbkQ)
223
Still ranks and the greatest mass delusion of the last century.
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
They duped the whole world into thinking that the sky was falling because it got hot in summer
Posted by: zombie at April 08, 2025 02:40 PM (pMi6S)
They duped the whole world into thinking that the sky was falling because it got hot in summer
Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (y9ksN)
224
The victim attempted to grab his backpack, from which he pulled a knife and stabbed the victim in the chest, killing him in minutes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (+sD5M)
Worse than that . He had reached in his backpack and told the victim ' touch me and see what happens' . The victim went to push him out of the tent and the perp stabbed him immediately.
He intended to stab him from the start.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (+sD5M)
Worse than that . He had reached in his backpack and told the victim ' touch me and see what happens' . The victim went to push him out of the tent and the perp stabbed him immediately.
He intended to stab him from the start.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (VofaG)
225
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Posted by: ... at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (E0p3T)
226
@205 you can almost hear Jonah saying "and she made me cry"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (6TePA)
227
ellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme
====
Congrats and have a good one.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (ctrM5)
Happy Birthday, and start practicing your "Git offa my lawn whippersnapper"
Posted by: bonhomme
====
Congrats and have a good one.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (ctrM5)
Happy Birthday, and start practicing your "Git offa my lawn whippersnapper"
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (n7h9X)
228
Bonne Anniversaire, Bonhomme!
Posted by: Le Mikleuse at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (RgW1J)
229
Pierre Po- po - porobably not going to be prime minister ever.
Posted by: gKWVE at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (gKWVE)
230
Happy Birthday, bonhomme! and many more!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (/Ghsb)
231
Michael Cuckmann more like.
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (0HaGk)
232
How come his lawyers aren't on the hook to National Review....they shopped his crap to the court. They should have to pay and be sanctioned.
Posted by: torabora at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (Xjzeb)
233
These are the martyrs.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
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. General Mike Flynn;
. John Eastman (Trump Lawyer);
. Ashli Babbitt, Roseanne Boyland (both literally), and other J6 Victims; and
. Corey Comperatore (literally).
.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
----------------
. General Mike Flynn;
. John Eastman (Trump Lawyer);
. Ashli Babbitt, Roseanne Boyland (both literally), and other J6 Victims; and
. Corey Comperatore (literally).
.
Posted by: ShainS -- If Elon Bought Planned Parenthood, The Left Would Hate Abortion at April 08, 2025 03:17 PM (MGnUt)
234
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Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:17 PM (au4p0)
235
Would there be any way for the family of the murdered kid to seize those funds? Or get the GSG shut down?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (8zz6B)
GSG had a fund for Kyle Rittenhouse as well, so I'm not really against what they're doing, but the fund states 'self-defense' and 'innocent, churchgoing, loving child' as the defense.
Um, no. It's premeditated murder.
I will file it under "a fool and his money are soon parted" for those donating and when the family blows it on cars, gambling and weed.
Would there be any way for the family of the murdered kid to seize those funds? Or get the GSG shut down?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (8zz6B)
GSG had a fund for Kyle Rittenhouse as well, so I'm not really against what they're doing, but the fund states 'self-defense' and 'innocent, churchgoing, loving child' as the defense.
Um, no. It's premeditated murder.
I will file it under "a fool and his money are soon parted" for those donating and when the family blows it on cars, gambling and weed.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:17 PM (+sD5M)
236
"Economic Experts" would be a great band name.
Posted by: mrp
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As new wave bands go, not a bad title . Punk needs a bit more as does rap.
Posted by: mrp
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As new wave bands go, not a bad title . Punk needs a bit more as does rap.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:17 PM (ctrM5)
237
Less money for "In this house..." signs.
Posted by: Miklos sees Upsides at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (RgW1J)
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When I see those stupid signs I have the irrational urge to ring the doorbell and say were you born stupid or is it a culmination of your life choices?
But I'm rational, so I don't act on every urge. I just walk on by and thank God that I have the ability to think critically.
Posted by: Miklos sees Upsides at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM (RgW1J)
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When I see those stupid signs I have the irrational urge to ring the doorbell and say were you born stupid or is it a culmination of your life choices?
But I'm rational, so I don't act on every urge. I just walk on by and thank God that I have the ability to think critically.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:17 PM (PMtkd)
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Thanks, everyone!
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:17 PM (lIio7)
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addition to the martyr list
Peanut - also his friend the Opossum or whatever he was
That dude who was shot with the bear spray.
That dude who was shot walking away from a rally
Corey Comparatore
Plus there are a few pro-life martyrs and that grandma in prison for backing up election data she was told to destroy.
(sorry, I am sleepy and can't think of all their names.)
Peanut - also his friend the Opossum or whatever he was
That dude who was shot with the bear spray.
That dude who was shot walking away from a rally
Corey Comparatore
Plus there are a few pro-life martyrs and that grandma in prison for backing up election data she was told to destroy.
(sorry, I am sleepy and can't think of all their names.)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (lTnrq)
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> You do realize that you've reached the halfway point...probably more.
Yep.
*contemplates the nature of mortality*
Yep.
*contemplates the nature of mortality*
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (lIio7)
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Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM
Happy birfday, bonhomme!
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:12 PM
Happy birfday, bonhomme!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (kgE5c)
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Famed Green Peace Founder Patrick Moore (who was kicked out by the commies) along with Elon Musk offers to support a team of 'expert' climate hustler scientists on a first of its kind climate expedition. Unlike the famed Cousteau expeditions uncovered secrets of the oceans Team Ice Riders will experience the FO part of FAFO. Esteemed team, members to include but not limited to: Captain Michael Mann, Reseach and Archives Neil deGrasse Tyson, Climate impact expert Bill Nye, Financial and Human resources Al Gore. Deck Swabby Al Roker, Galley Chef Greta Thunberg.
Musk states the after his successful polar orbit mission his team has devised new 'Iceberg Boats". The team will be cast off from Antartica using 12 Minn Kota Ultrex 80 Trolling Motors strategically placed around the one square iceberg . By Musks calculations The iceberg dubbed USS Freezer Queen may or may not reach Cape Horn in time for the Easter Day 'Hey I'm Horny' parade
Musk states the after his successful polar orbit mission his team has devised new 'Iceberg Boats". The team will be cast off from Antartica using 12 Minn Kota Ultrex 80 Trolling Motors strategically placed around the one square iceberg . By Musks calculations The iceberg dubbed USS Freezer Queen may or may not reach Cape Horn in time for the Easter Day 'Hey I'm Horny' parade
Posted by: I was Gumby Damn It! now I'm no0t at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (/m17t)
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These are the martyrs.
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
Trump and Musk
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (n7h9X)
Steve Bannon
Peter Navorro
Conrad Black
Giulianni - A lawyer representing a client
Jones - TBH, he was kind of nuts on that story
Steyn - Spoke the truth about climate science fraud
J6 patriots - noticed the election fraud
who else?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:51 PM (lTnrq)
Trump and Musk
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 02:52 PM (n7h9X)
Steve Bannon
Peter Navorro
Conrad Black
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (rj6Yv)
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Stern lost. He was ordered to pay $1 in compensatory damages an $1,000,000 punitive damages, but punitive was later reduced to $5,000.
http://tiny.cc/9quf001
Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (z9kNN)
Oh. Well, that's not too bad, I guess.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (uCjyK)
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Mann had also sued a guy in Canada. After a similar length of time and Mann's failure to comply with the discovery process, the ct dismissed the case . Haven't heard of any appeal by Mann
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (6TePA)
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Steyn "lost" in a forum-shopped jury trial where the jury no doubt had little idea what the trial was about and probably saw the case as Democrat vs. Republican. Even one judge (bear in mind this court usually handles traffic and landlord/tenant law) said "all this paper work gives me a headache!", so the judges were similarly awful.
The punitive award in DC was reduced to $5,000 but even that is being appealed. This travesty of justice will someday be reversed, I pray.
Mann did sue in the other case (in B.C.) STG mentioned, and was assessed costs, which he never paid.
http://tiny.cc/9quf001
Posted by: tankdemon at April 08, 2025 02:39 PM (z9kNN)
Oh. Well, that's not too bad, I guess.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 08, 2025 02:42 PM (uCjyK)
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Mann had also sued a guy in Canada. After a similar length of time and Mann's failure to comply with the discovery process, the ct dismissed the case . Haven't heard of any appeal by Mann
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (6TePA)
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Steyn "lost" in a forum-shopped jury trial where the jury no doubt had little idea what the trial was about and probably saw the case as Democrat vs. Republican. Even one judge (bear in mind this court usually handles traffic and landlord/tenant law) said "all this paper work gives me a headache!", so the judges were similarly awful.
The punitive award in DC was reduced to $5,000 but even that is being appealed. This travesty of justice will someday be reversed, I pray.
Mann did sue in the other case (in B.C.) STG mentioned, and was assessed costs, which he never paid.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (g+IG3)
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bat-bat, bat,, bat-bat-bat
Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes
scritch-scritch-scratch scritch
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Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes
scritch-scritch-scratch scritch
OW
Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Claws at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (HgMAr)
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He intended to stab him from the start.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (VofaG)
Premeditated murder. Period.
Texas. He's 17. Adult. Death Row.
He intended to stab him from the start.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:16 PM (VofaG)
Premeditated murder. Period.
Texas. He's 17. Adult. Death Row.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (+sD5M)
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"He intended to stab him from the start.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth"
yeah, that was my read, too
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth"
yeah, that was my read, too
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 03:19 PM (/Ghsb)
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Texas. He's 17. Adult. Death Row.
Posted by: Sponge
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Nope. Scotus outlawed death penalty or even life in prison for those below 18 when the crime was committed. Justice Kennedy plus the lefties on the court bullshit.
Posted by: Sponge
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Nope. Scotus outlawed death penalty or even life in prison for those below 18 when the crime was committed. Justice Kennedy plus the lefties on the court bullshit.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (8zz6B)
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I really wouldn't call for the taxpayers to start burning federal buildings down because they've been raping us blind for decades and too many of us can't afford to live life due to the tax burden incurred........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (+sD5M)
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While Biden was asleep his puppet masters were spending our money like they were drunk billionaires.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:07 PM (+sD5M)
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While Biden was asleep his puppet masters were spending our money like they were drunk billionaires.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (NpAcC)
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Nope. Scotus outlawed death penalty or even life in prison for those below 18 when the crime was committed. Justice Kennedy plus the lefties on the court bullshit.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (ctrM5)
Well, if he's 18 when the trial begins, push for it.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (ctrM5)
Well, if he's 18 when the trial begins, push for it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (+sD5M)
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Also a bunch of covid martyrs. Tucker had one woman on recently and she was very good. Dr. Bowden, I think.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (lTnrq)
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241 Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme
Very happy birthday.
I'll always imagine you as 22 in mu head.
Posted by: bonhomme
Very happy birthday.
I'll always imagine you as 22 in mu head.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (jvJvP)
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I love Mark Steyn , adore him
He had 3 Heart attacks because of the stress this ass put upon him
He finally sounds better, but he’ll never be 100%
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (O/k6C)
He should make a YT channel/podcast. Low cost, get some of that thinking online, can have a few guests on his own schedule.
He had 3 Heart attacks because of the stress this ass put upon him
He finally sounds better, but he’ll never be 100%
Posted by: Gonzotx at April 08, 2025 03:08 PM (O/k6C)
He should make a YT channel/podcast. Low cost, get some of that thinking online, can have a few guests on his own schedule.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (n7h9X)
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Closer to 50. It started as The Coming Ice Age, then Global Warming, then Climate Change. The story changed every time the "experts" were proven wrong by time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
It is a religion, and not a very good one, at that. In the 19th century, odd little Protestant sects in the US started predicting the end of time. Every time that date passed, they got a new revelation. Eventually they stopped doing it, because people used to have shame. These experts have the religious fervor, but no shame to go with it.
I was on a tourist cruise on San Francisco Bay a couple years ago, and the narrator was opining that the entire wharf area needed to be replaced because of the rising tides. Took a look at the wharf where we docked. Same high water line that's been there for 100 years. Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
It is a religion, and not a very good one, at that. In the 19th century, odd little Protestant sects in the US started predicting the end of time. Every time that date passed, they got a new revelation. Eventually they stopped doing it, because people used to have shame. These experts have the religious fervor, but no shame to go with it.
I was on a tourist cruise on San Francisco Bay a couple years ago, and the narrator was opining that the entire wharf area needed to be replaced because of the rising tides. Took a look at the wharf where we docked. Same high water line that's been there for 100 years. Who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
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Happy Birthday, bonhomme!🥳
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (NpAcC)
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I thought this guy might be good for Canada, but now he looks just the same. Well, welcome Alberta as 51 state. Can't wait to see a little maple leaf among the stars.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (n7h9X)
As far as I know, Alberta has no native maples. I have "Manitoba Maple" in my yard, but it is really Box Elder.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:14 PM (n7h9X)
As far as I know, Alberta has no native maples. I have "Manitoba Maple" in my yard, but it is really Box Elder.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (8zz6B)
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He went into that tent to dare anyone to say anything to him. He was going to stab somebody.
That was his intent imo. I've seen it a dozen times.
That was his intent imo. I've seen it a dozen times.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (VofaG)
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Just to clarify, you're all 22 in my head....
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (PMtkd)
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Complaining about big meanies being mean is not very Mannly.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (63Dwl)
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While Biden was asleep his puppet masters were spending our money like they were drunk billionaires.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (NpAcC)
We've got thousands and thousands of veterans that are homeless, unable to get adequate medical care or commit suicide because they have no means, but government f*cktards were able to spend BILLIONS of FUNITURE while working from HOME.
Maybe pitchforks and torches are required.......
While Biden was asleep his puppet masters were spending our money like they were drunk billionaires.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 08, 2025 03:20 PM (NpAcC)
We've got thousands and thousands of veterans that are homeless, unable to get adequate medical care or commit suicide because they have no means, but government f*cktards were able to spend BILLIONS of FUNITURE while working from HOME.
Maybe pitchforks and torches are required.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (+sD5M)
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253 241 Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme
Very happy birthday.
I'll always imagine you as 22 in mu head.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (jvJvP)
And get off my lawn.
Posted by: bonhomme
Very happy birthday.
I'll always imagine you as 22 in mu head.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (jvJvP)
And get off my lawn.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (eQO/Z)
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259 Just to clarify, you're all 22 in my head....
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (jvJvP)
AoSHQ Style Manual says 29.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:22 PM (jvJvP)
AoSHQ Style Manual says 29.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (eQO/Z)
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Mann had also sued a guy in Canada. After a similar length of time and Mann's failure to comply with the discovery process, the ct dismissed the case . Haven't heard of any appeal by Mann
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Mann did sue in the other case (in B.C.) STG mentioned, and was assessed costs, which he never paid.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
"But another case, against Dr. Tim Ball, was decided by the Supreme Court of British Columbia, with Mann's case thrown out, and him ordered to pay the defendant's legal costs, no doubt a tidy sum of money. . . .
The Canadian court issued it's [sic] final ruling in favor of the Dismissal motion that was filed in May 2019 by Dr Tim Ball's libel lawyers.
Not only did the court grant Ball's application for dismissal of the nine-year, multi-million dollar lawsuit, it also took the additional step of awarding full legal costs to Ball. A detailed public statement from the world-renowned skeptical climatologist is expected in due course.
Dr Mann lost his case because he refused to show in open court his R2 regression numbers (the 'working out') behind the world-famous 'hockey stick' graph[.]" Article from American Thinker.
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Mann did sue in the other case (in B.C.) STG mentioned, and was assessed costs, which he never paid.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
"But another case, against Dr. Tim Ball, was decided by the Supreme Court of British Columbia, with Mann's case thrown out, and him ordered to pay the defendant's legal costs, no doubt a tidy sum of money. . . .
The Canadian court issued it's [sic] final ruling in favor of the Dismissal motion that was filed in May 2019 by Dr Tim Ball's libel lawyers.
Not only did the court grant Ball's application for dismissal of the nine-year, multi-million dollar lawsuit, it also took the additional step of awarding full legal costs to Ball. A detailed public statement from the world-renowned skeptical climatologist is expected in due course.
Dr Mann lost his case because he refused to show in open court his R2 regression numbers (the 'working out') behind the world-famous 'hockey stick' graph[.]" Article from American Thinker.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (ctrM5)
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He should make a YT channel/podcast. Low cost, get some of that thinking online, can have a few guests on his own schedule.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (n7h9X)
"DEMONITIZED AND SHADOWBANNED!!!"
- - - - YouTube Management
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (n7h9X)
"DEMONITIZED AND SHADOWBANNED!!!"
- - - - YouTube Management
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (+sD5M)
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Jonah Goldberg, the editor-at-large of NRO, said: "We did not 'fire' Ann for what she wrote... we ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty [concerning the editing disagreement]."
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
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Look, how is a man supposed to plagiarize articles advocating religious tests for entry into America? I mean, even a LA Times editor would reject that one!
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
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Look, how is a man supposed to plagiarize articles advocating religious tests for entry into America? I mean, even a LA Times editor would reject that one!
Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (7k1wd)
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I wish I was 50 again. Then I could go after 35 year old women again.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:24 PM (VofaG)
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Huh. This might not completely suck. A Hulu Predator series coming in June, which is in cartoon (or, "animated," for you sophisticates) form, called "Predator, Killer of Killers":
https://tinyurl.com/Predator-Cartoon-Series
The premise being, of course, that the Predators kill only warriors, because they are honorable or something.
Brought to you by the creators of the not-terrible Mary Sioux live-action movie "Prey," so woke content may be a bit higher than we'd like.
https://tinyurl.com/Predator-Cartoon-Series
The premise being, of course, that the Predators kill only warriors, because they are honorable or something.
Brought to you by the creators of the not-terrible Mary Sioux live-action movie "Prey," so woke content may be a bit higher than we'd like.
Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2025 03:24 PM (BRvvM)
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I have my Steyn Online jersey, golf shirt, several books, coffee mug (broken handle), and a CD. Big fan!
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:24 PM (rj6Yv)
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Happy birfday, bonhomme!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (kgE5c)
Likewise from me, bonhomme.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2025 03:18 PM (kgE5c)
Likewise from me, bonhomme.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (8zz6B)
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Jonah Goldberg, the editor-at-large of NRO, said: "We did not 'fire' Ann for what she wrote... we ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty [concerning the editing disagreement]."
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
When you look up 'fat f*ck' in the dictionary........
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
When you look up 'fat f*ck' in the dictionary........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (+sD5M)
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Market tanking. NASDAQ getting punched in the dick.
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth8)
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The thread is brimming with bonhomie.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6K6Eu)
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Climate Change is just a Cargo Cult for wankers. Odd that we let them have money and power.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (pZ64F)
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The leftist sign that makes me roll my eyes/ although "In this house we believe ...l does as well is "Hate had no home here." Really? It's seems like those leftists have a lot of hate for President Trump and those they refer to as MAGAts.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (42Vb+)
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It is a religion, and not a very good one, at that. In the 19th century, odd little Protestant sects in the US started predicting the end of time. Every time that date passed, they got a new revelation. Eventually they stopped doing it, because people used to have shame. These experts have the religious fervor, but no shame to go with it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
My favorite was the one that decided after a few screwed up meetings to see the second coming, to just say that the second coming HAPPENED but it was SECRET.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
My favorite was the one that decided after a few screwed up meetings to see the second coming, to just say that the second coming HAPPENED but it was SECRET.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (n7h9X)
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Climate Change is just a Cargo Cult for wankers. Odd that we let them have money and power.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (pZ64F)
LET them? We were FORCED to fund them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (pZ64F)
LET them? We were FORCED to fund them.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (+sD5M)
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Fellow morons. I am proud to announce that on this day nearly a half century ago, my mother brought baby bonhomme into this world. Thanks, Mom!
Posted by: bonhomme
Happy Birthday young man! I think that you will need to be carded to come here anymore
Posted by: bonhomme
Happy Birthday young man! I think that you will need to be carded to come here anymore
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (oiNtH)
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275 Climate Change is just a Cargo Cult for wankers. Odd that we let them have money and power.
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (pZ64F)
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If you've been paying attention to the scams DOGE has uncovered it's not so odd.
Climate Change is a money laundering scheme.
See: Al Gore
Posted by: Pudinhead at April 08, 2025 03:26 PM (pZ64F)
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If you've been paying attention to the scams DOGE has uncovered it's not so odd.
Climate Change is a money laundering scheme.
See: Al Gore
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (PMtkd)
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SnP now down 1.49 %
Nasdaq down 1.90 %
Quite the reversal from this morning.
Gold still up but dipped below 3000
Nasdaq down 1.90 %
Quite the reversal from this morning.
Gold still up but dipped below 3000
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (lIio7)
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Could Michael Mann just have Crockett and Tubbs seize a cartel shipment of cocaine and fentanyl to cover is his expenses?
$530K seems like chump change.
$530K seems like chump change.
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (fY84s)
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I would love to hear stories of non-insurance collections on civil court judgments.
Too many stories of deadbeat defendants refusing to pay and dodging collections efforts or making collection so expensive the plaintiff gets pennies on the dollar.
Unpaid civil judgments anywhere in the US ought to be a bar to filing suit.
Civil courts refuse to take themselves seriously. Why should anyone else care?
Too many stories of deadbeat defendants refusing to pay and dodging collections efforts or making collection so expensive the plaintiff gets pennies on the dollar.
Unpaid civil judgments anywhere in the US ought to be a bar to filing suit.
Civil courts refuse to take themselves seriously. Why should anyone else care?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (GD2xa)
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The view of Mann and his cronies about what constitutes scientific research is quite different from mine. I think they see it as a branch of show business.
The view of Mann and his cronies about what constitutes scientific research is quite different from mine. I think they see it as a branch of show business.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (xPNeT)
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Jeebus. Mann vs. NR?
This is a place where we need a judge to go Full Hawaiian and sentence all parties to death.
This is a place where we need a judge to go Full Hawaiian and sentence all parties to death.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (BI5O2)
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Saw Settled Science open for Economic Experts at Gaslight Park in '92
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (/U5Yz)
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Eh. Oil down to 58 bucks per barrel and change.
Market seems to be taking the new massive China tariffs just announced in stride. Xi is liquidating his US treasury holdings at about 50 billion per whack trying to drive yields up and his currency down.
Market seems to be taking the new massive China tariffs just announced in stride. Xi is liquidating his US treasury holdings at about 50 billion per whack trying to drive yields up and his currency down.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (ctrM5)
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Re Jonah Goldberg: I'd rather have dog hair on my clothing than cupcake crumbs
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (kTd/k)
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I think they see it as a branch of show business.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (xPNeT)
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They see it as a giant milking machine hooked up to the government teat.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (xPNeT)
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They see it as a giant milking machine hooked up to the government teat.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (6K6Eu)
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I’m not a Musk fan, but Peter Navarro is acting like a world-class r*tard right now.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (zjmBc)
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> My favorite was the one that decided after a few screwed up meetings to see the second coming, to just say that the second coming HAPPENED but it was SECRET.
Didn't the Jehova's Witnesses do this? I'm pretty sure they did.
Didn't the Jehova's Witnesses do this? I'm pretty sure they did.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (lIio7)
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Posted by: bonhomme
Congratulations on your birthday and God bless you. Are your mother and father still around to celebrate this momentous event with you?
Oh, yes, get off my lawn.
Congratulations on your birthday and God bless you. Are your mother and father still around to celebrate this momentous event with you?
Oh, yes, get off my lawn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (42Vb+)
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286 Jeebus. Mann vs. NR?
This is a place where we need a judge to go Full Hawaiian and sentence all parties to death.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
The judge should just require they reciprocate in blowjobs on each other.
Applying the "first you will blow me" doctrine of equity.
This is a place where we need a judge to go Full Hawaiian and sentence all parties to death.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
The judge should just require they reciprocate in blowjobs on each other.
Applying the "first you will blow me" doctrine of equity.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (ctrM5)
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The leftist sign that makes me roll my eyes/ although "In this house we believe ...l does as well is "Hate had no home here." Really? It's seems like those leftists have a lot of hate for President Trump and those they refer to as MAGAts.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
The denizens of Martha's Vineyard have that BS locked down. A bus full of illegals didn't last too long there did they? And as they rolled out on the bus, the hypocrites all lined and waved goodbye and threw kisses.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
The denizens of Martha's Vineyard have that BS locked down. A bus full of illegals didn't last too long there did they? And as they rolled out on the bus, the hypocrites all lined and waved goodbye and threw kisses.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (oiNtH)
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Not only did the court grant Ball's application for dismissal of the nine-year, multi-million dollar lawsuit, it also took the additional step of awarding full legal costs to Ball. A detailed public statement from the world-renowned skeptical climatologist is expected in due course.
Dr Mann lost his case because he refused to show in open court his R2 regression numbers (the 'working out') behind the world-famous 'hockey stick' graph[.]" Article from American Thinker.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (ctrM5)
Unfortunately, Tim Ball, who was a real "climate scientist" and not a fraud, died in 2022.
Dr Mann lost his case because he refused to show in open court his R2 regression numbers (the 'working out') behind the world-famous 'hockey stick' graph[.]" Article from American Thinker.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (ctrM5)
Unfortunately, Tim Ball, who was a real "climate scientist" and not a fraud, died in 2022.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (8zz6B)
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"67 I thought it was "proven" that the hockey stick graph was an intentionally fabricated lie. "Hide the Decline" and all that phony data.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (Cus5s) "
yup, part of Emailgate, mentioned at 35 up above
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (/Ghsb)
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The hockey stick was disproven by a Canadian statistician - Stephen McIntyre. McIntyre argued that Mann's algorithm created a hockey stick shape regardless of the data entered, causing McIntyre to comment that he would expect better of undergrad stats majors that what Mann, as a research scientist, had done.
Mann has always resisted being deposed because McIntyre's findings would be proven out. I don't believe McIntyre was ever sued - because it would have forced Mann to defend the hockey stick. Mann had a history of delaying proceedings, to avoid depositions and having to pay out lawyer fees because of that. A case against Tim Ball and a Canadian Organization (FCPP) had that ending, and I believe another one involvein Ezra Levant.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 02:46 PM (Cus5s) "
yup, part of Emailgate, mentioned at 35 up above
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 02:54 PM (/Ghsb)
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The hockey stick was disproven by a Canadian statistician - Stephen McIntyre. McIntyre argued that Mann's algorithm created a hockey stick shape regardless of the data entered, causing McIntyre to comment that he would expect better of undergrad stats majors that what Mann, as a research scientist, had done.
Mann has always resisted being deposed because McIntyre's findings would be proven out. I don't believe McIntyre was ever sued - because it would have forced Mann to defend the hockey stick. Mann had a history of delaying proceedings, to avoid depositions and having to pay out lawyer fees because of that. A case against Tim Ball and a Canadian Organization (FCPP) had that ending, and I believe another one involvein Ezra Levant.
Posted by: Black JEM at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (GZYu7)
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He should make a YT channel/podcast. Low cost, get some of that thinking online, can have a few guests on his own schedule.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (n7h9X)
"DEMONITIZED AND SHADOWBANNED!!!"
- - - - YouTube Management
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (+sD5M)
I'd expect he's likely to be below notice when there are crazy guys like Nuxanor advocating "CRYO TRUMP, run him every 4 years FOREVER". Plus there are ways to get money off their systems.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (n7h9X)
"DEMONITIZED AND SHADOWBANNED!!!"
- - - - YouTube Management
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:23 PM (+sD5M)
I'd expect he's likely to be below notice when there are crazy guys like Nuxanor advocating "CRYO TRUMP, run him every 4 years FOREVER". Plus there are ways to get money off their systems.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (n7h9X)
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> Climate Change is a money laundering scheme.
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It's like big pharma developing a pill for something that nobody has, but telling everyone that it will cure it.
Some percentage of the audience will buy it.
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It's like big pharma developing a pill for something that nobody has, but telling everyone that it will cure it.
Some percentage of the audience will buy it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (Q4IgG)
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It is a religion, and not a very good one, at that. In the 19th century, odd little Protestant sects in the US started predicting the end of time. Every time that date passed, they got a new revelation. Eventually they stopped doing it, because people used to have shame. These experts have the religious fervor, but no shame to go with it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
Play with them. Get a bunch of blow up dolls and a large quantity of helium. Blow them up, put a little weight in the feet, and release them in a populated area, with lots of cameras.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
Play with them. Get a bunch of blow up dolls and a large quantity of helium. Blow them up, put a little weight in the feet, and release them in a populated area, with lots of cameras.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (VNX3d)
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The view of Mann and his cronies about what constitutes scientific research is quite different from mine. I think they see it as a branch of show business.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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I think they see it as being "gay for pay".
The view of Mann and his cronies about what constitutes scientific research is quite different from mine. I think they see it as a branch of show business.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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I think they see it as being "gay for pay".
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (ctrM5)
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281 SnP now down 1.49 %
Nasdaq down 1.90 %
Quite the reversal from this morning.
Gold still up but dipped below 3000
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (Cus5s
104% tariffs. Lol. Good one.
It looks like I'll have to set up a Canadian shell company for China to funnel things through. The price of Chinese assless chaps is about to rise.
No big deal. Probably tight in the crotch.
Nasdaq down 1.90 %
Quite the reversal from this morning.
Gold still up but dipped below 3000
Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 03:27 PM (Cus5s
104% tariffs. Lol. Good one.
It looks like I'll have to set up a Canadian shell company for China to funnel things through. The price of Chinese assless chaps is about to rise.
No big deal. Probably tight in the crotch.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (jvJvP)
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Market tanking. NASDAQ getting punched in the dick.
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
Douse your hair with Ronsonol. I'll provide a match.
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
Douse your hair with Ronsonol. I'll provide a match.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (8zz6B)
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> Market seems to be taking the new massive China tariffs just announced in stride.
China banned the showing of Hollywood movies. I cheered. China also banned selling dysprosium, terbium, tungsten, indium and yttrium to the US and I wondered how screwed we are.
China banned the showing of Hollywood movies. I cheered. China also banned selling dysprosium, terbium, tungsten, indium and yttrium to the US and I wondered how screwed we are.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (lIio7)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (au4p0)
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Applying the "first you will blow me" doctrine of equity.
Posted by: whig
It’s not really a punishment for them unfortunately.
Posted by: whig
It’s not really a punishment for them unfortunately.
Posted by: Kratwurst at April 08, 2025 03:32 PM (nIRE6)
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.Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
Should I run screaming and light my hair on fire now?
Should I run screaming and light my hair on fire now?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 03:32 PM (42Vb+)
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My favorite was the one that decided after a few screwed up meetings to see the second coming, to just say that the second coming HAPPENED but it was SECRET.
Didn't the Jehova's Witnesses do this? I'm pretty sure they did.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (lIio7)
They were one of the second coming sects back in the day, yes. Not sure if they were the ones to do the secret thing.
Didn't the Jehova's Witnesses do this? I'm pretty sure they did.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (lIio7)
They were one of the second coming sects back in the day, yes. Not sure if they were the ones to do the secret thing.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:32 PM (n7h9X)
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Just to clarify, you're all 22 in my head....
Posted by: Stateless...
Just avoid the Remington ammo...
Posted by: Stateless...
Just avoid the Remington ammo...
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at April 08, 2025 03:32 PM (w9Wax)
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> Congratulations on your birthday and God bless you.
Thanks!
> Are your mother and father still around to celebrate this momentous event with you?
Yes, actually. I chatted with my Mom this morning.
Thanks!
> Are your mother and father still around to celebrate this momentous event with you?
Yes, actually. I chatted with my Mom this morning.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:32 PM (lIio7)
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Hypocritical that Mann would would claim this is meanspirited punching down when he was the one who brought the defamation suit against Rand and Mark and then drug it out as long as possible to sap their resources and cause torment in their lives.
The case should have been thrown out long long ago, so it is great that Mann is caught up in his own lies in a suit he claimed he was defamed for being accused of abusing data.
The case should have been thrown out long long ago, so it is great that Mann is caught up in his own lies in a suit he claimed he was defamed for being accused of abusing data.
Posted by: wodun at April 08, 2025 03:33 PM (J6zaj)
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I'm reminded of the human centipede with Michael Mann at the back.
Posted by: Rando Calrissian at April 08, 2025 03:33 PM (uTp11)
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It’s not really a punishment for them unfortunately.
Posted by: Kratwurst
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Except when you stream the footage throughout the world for fetish types that like it ugly. The internet is forever.
Posted by: Kratwurst
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Except when you stream the footage throughout the world for fetish types that like it ugly. The internet is forever.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:33 PM (ctrM5)
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China banned the showing of Hollywood movies. I cheered. China also banned selling dysprosium, terbium, tungsten, indium and yttrium to the US and I wondered how screwed we are.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (lIio7)
Well Ytterby is in Sweden so we have a source for 4 of those. Erbium, Terbium, Yttrium, and Ytterbium
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (lIio7)
Well Ytterby is in Sweden so we have a source for 4 of those. Erbium, Terbium, Yttrium, and Ytterbium
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:34 PM (n7h9X)
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Didn't the Jehova's Witnesses do this? I'm pretty sure they did.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (lIio7)
They were one of the second coming sects back in the day, yes. Not sure if they were the ones to do the secret thing.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Splinter of the Millerites I believe.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:29 PM (lIio7)
They were one of the second coming sects back in the day, yes. Not sure if they were the ones to do the secret thing.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Splinter of the Millerites I believe.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
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Market tanking. NASDAQ getting punched in the dick.
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
If you're on the window ledge on the 10th floor, I suggest going to the 20th floor just to be sure.
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
If you're on the window ledge on the 10th floor, I suggest going to the 20th floor just to be sure.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (au4p0)
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Splinter of the Millerites I believe.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
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I thought that was the Miller Lites.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
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I thought that was the Miller Lites.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (6K6Eu)
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314 China banned the showing of Hollywood movies. I cheered. China also banned selling dysprosium, terbium, tungsten, indium and yttrium to the US and I wondered how screwed we are.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Not if we make friends with Russia. Time to cut Ukraine loose and NATO to boot.
Posted by: bonhomme
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Not if we make friends with Russia. Time to cut Ukraine loose and NATO to boot.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (ctrM5)
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It looks like I'll have to set up a Canadian shell company for China to funnel things through. The price of Chinese assless chaps is about to rise.
No big deal. Probably tight in the crotch.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (jvJvP)
Think China went to 100 percent on Canada last week, not sure why.
No big deal. Probably tight in the crotch.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (jvJvP)
Think China went to 100 percent on Canada last week, not sure why.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (n7h9X)
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China banned the showing of Hollywood movies. I cheered. China also banned selling dysprosium, terbium, tungsten, indium and yttrium to the US and I wondered how screwed we are.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (lIio7)
A nation that relies on its adversary to supply it with vital material is already screwed.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:31 PM (lIio7)
A nation that relies on its adversary to supply it with vital material is already screwed.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (dGCAG)
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The US should also ban the showing of Hollywood Movies.
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (+nKhw)
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Splinter of the Millerites I believe.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
Glenn Miller was a heck of a bandleader, but worshipping the guy is way out there.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:35 PM (ctrM5)
Glenn Miller was a heck of a bandleader, but worshipping the guy is way out there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (8zz6B)
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I thought that was the Miller Lites.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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Miller Lites begats the Millerites. Or something like that.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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Miller Lites begats the Millerites. Or something like that.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM (ctrM5)
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> They were one of the second coming sects back in the day, yes. Not sure if they were the ones to do the secret thing.
I checked the interwebs. Apparently Jehova's Witnesses believe Jesus returned invisibly in 1914, but that this was not the Second Coming. If the info I read can be trusted, they believe this invisible visitation marked the establishment of His Heavenly Kingdom and started the culmination of future prophesied events.
I checked the interwebs. Apparently Jehova's Witnesses believe Jesus returned invisibly in 1914, but that this was not the Second Coming. If the info I read can be trusted, they believe this invisible visitation marked the establishment of His Heavenly Kingdom and started the culmination of future prophesied events.
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:37 PM (lIio7)
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Glenn Miller was a heck of a bandleader, but worshipping the guy is way out there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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You mean "In the Mood" is not a hymn?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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You mean "In the Mood" is not a hymn?
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:37 PM (ctrM5)
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It is a religion, and not a very good one, at that. In the 19th century, odd little Protestant sects in the US started predicting the end of time. Every time that date passed, they got a new revelation. Eventually they stopped doing it, because people used to have shame. These experts have the religious fervor, but no shame to go with it.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
Millerites on the hilltop.
Posted by: tcn in AK at April 08, 2025 03:21 PM (eQO/Z)
Millerites on the hilltop.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:37 PM (rj6Yv)
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china can go suck a big black dick
Ever buy a lithium battery from china? They LIE about everything. Their 5000mah, for instance, will be more like a third of that. china junk.
china can go suck a big black dick
Ever buy a lithium battery from china? They LIE about everything. Their 5000mah, for instance, will be more like a third of that. china junk.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:37 PM (au4p0)
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Market tanking. NASDAQ getting punched in the dick.
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
Almost time to buy Finally!
Posted by: Market Update. at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (6Mth
Almost time to buy Finally!
Posted by: LASue at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (vPSF2)
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" The US should also ban the showing of Hollywood Movies.
Posted by: Boss Moss "
People mostly have.
Posted by: Boss Moss "
People mostly have.
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (0HaGk)
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That this is a religion is shown by man's sinful role and the need for sacrifice.
If it was something we had no part in, like a meteor headed straight for us, their reaction would be entirely different.
If it was something we had no part in, like a meteor headed straight for us, their reaction would be entirely different.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (Dm8we)
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Well Ytterby is in Sweden so we have a source for 4 of those. Erbium, Terbium, Yttrium, and Ytterbium
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:34 PM (n7h9X)
Sure, but what about the other 4??
Comet, Cupid, Donner, and Blitzen.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:34 PM (n7h9X)
Sure, but what about the other 4??
Comet, Cupid, Donner, and Blitzen.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (dGCAG)
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The denizens of Martha's Vineyard have that BS locked down. A bus full of illegals didn't last too long there did they? And as they rolled out on the bus, the hypocrites all lined and waved goodbye and threw kisses.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (oiNtH)
In the old days when they ran you out of town on a rail you could at least resent them that did it to you. It was a courtesy.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (oiNtH)
In the old days when they ran you out of town on a rail you could at least resent them that did it to you. It was a courtesy.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (n7h9X)
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Holy crap. The Dow was up 1400 this morning, and its now down 640 and dropping. That's what you call a wild swing.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (xCA6C)
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Think China went to 100 percent on Canada last week, not sure why.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM
They did on some stuff. I didn't bother following it.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM
They did on some stuff. I didn't bother following it.
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (jvJvP)
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The Chinese , like US citizens, will just turn to watching Turner Classic Movies
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (6TePA)
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Rumors continue that China is selling big on Treasuries, driving up rates on purpose (it appears), and buying physical gold. Push on either string hard enough and that could possibly cause some issues for Bessent (and Trump).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (elz1b)
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Sure, but what about the other 4??
Comet, Cupid, Donner, and Blitzen.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (dGCAG)
I think they kinda got out of the element naming biz a while ago.
Comet, Cupid, Donner, and Blitzen.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (dGCAG)
I think they kinda got out of the element naming biz a while ago.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (n7h9X)
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333 The denizens of Martha's Vineyard have that BS locked down. A bus full of illegals didn't last too long there did they? And as they rolled out on the bus, the hypocrites all lined and waved goodbye and threw kisses.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (oiNtH)
In the old days when they ran you out of town on a rail you could at least resent them that did it to you. It was a courtesy.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (n7h9X)
Illegals totally have a right to be here. For some definitions of here.
I think that episode more than any other showed normies what was up.
Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 03:30 PM (oiNtH)
In the old days when they ran you out of town on a rail you could at least resent them that did it to you. It was a courtesy.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (n7h9X)
Illegals totally have a right to be here. For some definitions of here.
I think that episode more than any other showed normies what was up.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (guCHD)
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (0HaGk)
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Happy Birthday 🎂 bonhomme
Hope you get a cake today
Hope you get a cake today
Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (ypFCm)
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Holy crap. The Dow was up 1400 this morning, and its now down 640 and dropping. That's what you call a wild swing.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (xCA6C)
Reminds me of my ex.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (xCA6C)
Reminds me of my ex.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (dGCAG)
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Bismuth.
I like Bismuth.
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (0HaGk)
None of your Bismuth.
I like Bismuth.
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (0HaGk)
None of your Bismuth.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (n7h9X)
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Holy crap. The Dow was up 1400 this morning, and its now down 640 and dropping. That's what you call a wild swing.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (xCA6C)
Traders are like the Bangladeshis that run from one rail to the other, until the ferry boat capsizes.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 03:38 PM (xCA6C)
Traders are like the Bangladeshis that run from one rail to the other, until the ferry boat capsizes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (8zz6B)
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337 Rumors continue that China is selling big on Treasuries, driving up rates on purpose (it appears), and buying physical gold. Push on either string hard enough and that could possibly cause some issues for Bessent (and Trump).
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Gold won't save the Chinese if their factories stop. We had a lot of it during the Great Depression and still had the Depression bit.
Simply put, medium of exchange, like the stock market is a derivative of the real economy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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Gold won't save the Chinese if their factories stop. We had a lot of it during the Great Depression and still had the Depression bit.
Simply put, medium of exchange, like the stock market is a derivative of the real economy.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (ctrM5)
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255 Closer to 50. It started as The Coming Ice Age, then Global Warming, then Climate Change. The story changed every time the "experts" were proven wrong by time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
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I kind of subscribe to the Coming Ice Age, but not because anything that we've done on Earth. I think lack of solar flare activity of our sun is going to be the culprit of any massive climate issues. Of course, the Greenies will be quick to jump in and say...see, our efforts worked....until the average temp in Tampa hits 35 Fahrenheit in July. Then they'll need a new cause while swinging back to the anthropomorphic global cooling nonsense.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 08, 2025 02:45 PM (VNX3d)
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I kind of subscribe to the Coming Ice Age, but not because anything that we've done on Earth. I think lack of solar flare activity of our sun is going to be the culprit of any massive climate issues. Of course, the Greenies will be quick to jump in and say...see, our efforts worked....until the average temp in Tampa hits 35 Fahrenheit in July. Then they'll need a new cause while swinging back to the anthropomorphic global cooling nonsense.
Posted by: Orson at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (dIske)
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Rumors continue that China is selling big on Treasuries, driving up rates on purpose (it appears), and buying physical gold. Push on either string hard enough and that could possibly cause some issues for Bessent (and Trump).
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (elz1b)
Buying gold?
HU GOLD?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (elz1b)
Buying gold?
HU GOLD?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (rj6Yv)
348
342 Holy crap. The Dow was up 1400 this morning, and its now down 640 and dropping. That's what you call a wild swing.
Posted by: Archimedes
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New China retaliatory tariffs over 100 percent now and that is sinking Apple for example.
Posted by: Archimedes
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New China retaliatory tariffs over 100 percent now and that is sinking Apple for example.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (ctrM5)
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I saw a comment today from someone who was quite pleased by getting Nvidia at 83.
My point is: all these big investor gurus and fund managers loved Nvidia at 150 and loved Apple at 150, so, logically, they should love this buying opportunity. Right?
This panic and sell-off is 90% contrived bullshit.
I saw a comment today from someone who was quite pleased by getting Nvidia at 83.
My point is: all these big investor gurus and fund managers loved Nvidia at 150 and loved Apple at 150, so, logically, they should love this buying opportunity. Right?
This panic and sell-off is 90% contrived bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (au4p0)
350
Bismuth.
I like Bismuth.
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (0HaGk)
None of your Bismuth.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (n7h9X)
Longest winter I ever saw was summer in Bismuth, ND.
I like Bismuth.
Posted by: eleven at April 08, 2025 03:40 PM (0HaGk)
None of your Bismuth.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:41 PM (n7h9X)
Longest winter I ever saw was summer in Bismuth, ND.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (dGCAG)
351
They duped the whole world into thinking that the sky was falling because it got hot in summer
Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (y9ksN)
______________
My favorite was the photo of the polar bear looking plaintive standing on a melting ice floe ... in broad daylight. Which happens above Arctic Circle only ... in summer.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 03:15 PM (y9ksN)
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My favorite was the photo of the polar bear looking plaintive standing on a melting ice floe ... in broad daylight. Which happens above Arctic Circle only ... in summer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (YqDXo)
352
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 03:39 PM (elz1b)
It's the correction we needed and the kick in the pants to domestically manufacture products that are crucial to our national security. You would have thought COVID shutdown would have been that kick in the pants but the Dems took over and actually made us more dependent on our adversaries.
It's the correction we needed and the kick in the pants to domestically manufacture products that are crucial to our national security. You would have thought COVID shutdown would have been that kick in the pants but the Dems took over and actually made us more dependent on our adversaries.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (VofaG)
353
Posted by: bonhomme at April 08, 2025 03:32 PM (lIio7
That's great. My mother was long gone by the time I turned fifty.
That's great. My mother was long gone by the time I turned fifty.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (42Vb+)
354
NR can FOAD.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (Y5yQx)
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335 Think China went to 100 percent on Canada last week, not sure why.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM
They did on some stuff. I didn't bother following it.
Posted by: Stateless..
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Canadians were put to death over drug trafficking in China last week. They, however, were at least of Chinese origin if not simply paper Canadians.
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:36 PM
They did on some stuff. I didn't bother following it.
Posted by: Stateless..
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Canadians were put to death over drug trafficking in China last week. They, however, were at least of Chinese origin if not simply paper Canadians.
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
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I saw a comment today from someone who was quite pleased by getting Nvidia at 83.
My point is: all these big investor gurus and fund managers loved Nvidia at 150 and loved Apple at 150, so, logically, they should love this buying opportunity. Right?
This panic and sell-off is 90% contrived bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (au4p0)
Well if they sell it, they toss their wealth into smarter hands. Think of it as evolution.
My point is: all these big investor gurus and fund managers loved Nvidia at 150 and loved Apple at 150, so, logically, they should love this buying opportunity. Right?
This panic and sell-off is 90% contrived bullshit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (au4p0)
Well if they sell it, they toss their wealth into smarter hands. Think of it as evolution.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:45 PM (n7h9X)
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Canadians were put to death over drug trafficking in China last week. They, however, were at least of Chinese origin if not simply paper Canadians.
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
No wonder they weren't getting far on a new bloc of countries to oppose America.
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
No wonder they weren't getting far on a new bloc of countries to oppose America.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (n7h9X)
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Gold won't save the Chinese if their factories stop. We had a lot of it during the Great Depression and still had the Depression bit.
Simply put, medium of exchange, like the stock market is a derivative of the real economy.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (ctrM5)
Watched a YT video earlier today. No purchase orders coming from the US. Chinese warehouses are filled with merchandise. Chinese ports are filled with full containers awaiting shipment.
Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Simply put, medium of exchange, like the stock market is a derivative of the real economy.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:42 PM (ctrM5)
Watched a YT video earlier today. No purchase orders coming from the US. Chinese warehouses are filled with merchandise. Chinese ports are filled with full containers awaiting shipment.
Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (rj6Yv)
359
NR can FOAD.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (Y5yQx)
Haven't they already?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (Y5yQx)
Haven't they already?
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (n7h9X)
360
Had a kid working at our engineering firm a while back who used to day trade on the sly all day. He got fired.
Posted by: wth at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (v0R5T)
361
NOOD
NOOD
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (mvwwF)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (mvwwF)
363
What of Minnesotans for Glowbal Warming?
Posted by: Boss Moss at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (+nKhw)
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Canadians were put to death over drug trafficking in China last week. They, however, were at least of Chinese origin if not simply paper Canadians.
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
Chinese nationals, maybe naturalized Canadians. "Hotel Canadians". No real commitment to Canada. Fuck 'em.
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
Chinese nationals, maybe naturalized Canadians. "Hotel Canadians". No real commitment to Canada. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2025 03:47 PM (8zz6B)
365
Watched a YT video earlier today. No purchase orders coming from the US. Chinese warehouses are filled with merchandise. Chinese ports are filled with full containers awaiting shipment.
Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (rj6Yv)
An odd one I have seen a few times recently is that some 400 million Chinese are just gone. Didn't watch the videos tho.
Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (rj6Yv)
An odd one I have seen a few times recently is that some 400 million Chinese are just gone. Didn't watch the videos tho.
Posted by: Oldcat at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (n7h9X)
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Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Posted by: mrp
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Dunno. Usual flight to safety but it marks a very bad actual economy rather than a good one.
Oil price is more important to an industrialized economy than the price of gold.
Posted by: mrp
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Dunno. Usual flight to safety but it marks a very bad actual economy rather than a good one.
Oil price is more important to an industrialized economy than the price of gold.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (ctrM5)
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Do these fucks on Wall Street think 100 bazillion percent tariffs between us and Chy-nah will be a thing long term?
Hint: they won’t
Hint: they won’t
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 03:48 PM (Y5yQx)
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My favorite was the photo of the polar bear looking plaintive standing on a melting ice floe ... in broad daylight. Which happens above Arctic Circle only ... in summer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (YqDXo)
Holding a guitar, singing "You picked a fine time to leave me, loose seal."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 03:43 PM (YqDXo)
Holding a guitar, singing "You picked a fine time to leave me, loose seal."
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 03:49 PM (dGCAG)
369
China banned the showing of Hollywood movies.
_______________
I love it! Kick Hollywood right in the balls.
Of course, this will provide Disney with an excuse for Snow Beige's dire performance.
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I love it! Kick Hollywood right in the balls.
Of course, this will provide Disney with an excuse for Snow Beige's dire performance.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (YqDXo)
370
An odd one I have seen a few times recently is that some 400 million Chinese are just gone. Didn't watch the videos tho.
Posted by: Oldcat
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China has quit putting out certain demographic stats after Covid. It is clear that China is facing a demographic cliff though perhaps greater than the Black Death effects in Europe back in the day.
Posted by: Oldcat
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China has quit putting out certain demographic stats after Covid. It is clear that China is facing a demographic cliff though perhaps greater than the Black Death effects in Europe back in the day.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:50 PM (ctrM5)
371
Canada was also having a slap fight with India over something.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
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iirc, India sent a hit team to Canada a year or so ago to take out a Sikh separatist....
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:44 PM (ctrM5)
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iirc, India sent a hit team to Canada a year or so ago to take out a Sikh separatist....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 03:52 PM (QEO+S)
372
Best. News. Ever
Posted by: 13times at April 08, 2025 03:58 PM (T0T7T)
373
Market seems to be taking the new massive China tariffs just announced in stride. Xi is liquidating his US treasury holdings at about 50 billion per whack trying to drive yields up and his currency down.
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (ctrM5)
saudi Arabia has eased off on throttling production, probably because they need money and maybe because they are tired of Iran's BS
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:28 PM (ctrM5)
saudi Arabia has eased off on throttling production, probably because they need money and maybe because they are tired of Iran's BS
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:00 PM (D7oie)
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Watched a YT video earlier today. No purchase orders coming from the US. Chinese warehouses are filled with merchandise. Chinese ports are filled with full containers awaiting shipment.
Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (rj6Yv)
China is holding gold, they are also a major arbitrage center, they were paying higher than London. The general thought is that China, like Russia, is trying to position themselves free of the USD, and that if you have a lot of gold you can float a gold backed bearer bond that has greater credibility than US Treasuries or Euros.
This may be one of the reason Trump is floating that Sovereign Wealth Fund idea, since the promise of gold may be a bigger asset than promises of future repayment based on fiat currency and the United States' population's ability to repay the government's debt.
Chinese politicians and industrialists are buying that gold?
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 03:46 PM (rj6Yv)
China is holding gold, they are also a major arbitrage center, they were paying higher than London. The general thought is that China, like Russia, is trying to position themselves free of the USD, and that if you have a lot of gold you can float a gold backed bearer bond that has greater credibility than US Treasuries or Euros.
This may be one of the reason Trump is floating that Sovereign Wealth Fund idea, since the promise of gold may be a bigger asset than promises of future repayment based on fiat currency and the United States' population's ability to repay the government's debt.
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 04:06 PM (D7oie)
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Now throw in the political issue -- what the hell good is it to cut Western carbon and offshore it all to China? How does it help to move it around?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq
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Same bullshit as Daylight Savings Time
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at April 08, 2025 02:55 PM (lTnrq
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Same bullshit as Daylight Savings Time
Posted by: Bonecrusher at April 08, 2025 04:13 PM (JNTt1)
376
"Mann and his representation misled the jury as to how much grant funding he missed out on"
I think he meant grift money
I think he meant grift money
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 08, 2025 04:18 PM (NtVYv)
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272 Jonah Goldberg, the editor-at-large of NRO, said: "We did not 'fire' Ann for what she wrote... we ended the relationship because she behaved with a total lack of professionalism, friendship, and loyalty [concerning the editing disagreement]."
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
When you look up 'fat f*ck' in the dictionary........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (+sD5M)
Definitely not a Jonah G-File fan (and not as much Ann's, either), but there is something to be said about a subset of people in the conservative movement of, say, the 90s and Oughts that just didn't play well with others. Steyn, for instance, has been absolutely everywhere - even as a sub for Rush (the best one, IMO). Did they see something that the population at-large didn't see, or was it something else?
Posted by: whig at April 08, 2025 03:13 PM (ctrM5)
When you look up 'fat f*ck' in the dictionary........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at April 08, 2025 03:25 PM (+sD5M)
Definitely not a Jonah G-File fan (and not as much Ann's, either), but there is something to be said about a subset of people in the conservative movement of, say, the 90s and Oughts that just didn't play well with others. Steyn, for instance, has been absolutely everywhere - even as a sub for Rush (the best one, IMO). Did they see something that the population at-large didn't see, or was it something else?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 04:24 PM (V1Js5)
378
Making up data the old hard way
Crunching the numbers day by day
Hiding the snow and the cold and the downward lime
Hide the decline
Hide the decline
Sing along you know the words
Crunching the numbers day by day
Hiding the snow and the cold and the downward lime
Hide the decline
Hide the decline
Sing along you know the words
Posted by: hurricane567 at April 08, 2025 04:45 PM (+PwsD)
379
This appears to be the FO stage of this court case.
Posted by: El Mariachi at April 08, 2025 04:51 PM (D1vbu)
380
84 does Mann own a house?
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (D7oie)
The father of his wife's children owns a house, Mann just sleeps on the sofa in the basement
84 does Mann own a house?
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 02:50 PM (D7oie)
The father of his wife's children owns a house, Mann just sleeps on the sofa in the basement
Posted by: hurricane567 at April 08, 2025 04:53 PM (OdN1q)
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I mean, sure $535,000 is a lot of money. Then again you knowingly lied to the court to win the case, so....?
Posted by: El Mariachi at April 08, 2025 04:53 PM (D1vbu)
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That's not what happened. National Review managed to get themselves removed from the case, claiming Mark Steyn wasn't working for them or something.
Then they collected from Mann under DC SLAPP law, a law meant to try and discourage lawsuits that threaten free speech.
What you described is what Mann did with his case against Mark Steyn, who because it was a DC jury, found for Mann because Mann told them Steyn guest hosts for Rush Limbaugh.
Steyn will collect some money from Mann for his false information presented in court about lost grant money, but nowhere near what Steyn paid for lawyers.
Then they collected from Mann under DC SLAPP law, a law meant to try and discourage lawsuits that threaten free speech.
What you described is what Mann did with his case against Mark Steyn, who because it was a DC jury, found for Mann because Mann told them Steyn guest hosts for Rush Limbaugh.
Steyn will collect some money from Mann for his false information presented in court about lost grant money, but nowhere near what Steyn paid for lawyers.
Posted by: MikeN at April 08, 2025 05:14 PM (HVZOH)
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“You have to be able to drop everything in 30 seconds when you feel the heat around the corner.” -the other Michael Mann…
…which applies to this Michael Mann
…which applies to this Michael Mann
Posted by: Lex at April 08, 2025 05:19 PM (MYYw0)
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The irony of this is Mann's legal strategy was to disclose as little as possible while stretching the legal process out endlessly, in order to bankrupt Steyn and NR. Process is the punishment. (It succeeded with Steyn, who I think was representing himself?)
So now Mann wants - again - to draw out the process. He'll never pay, and will force Steyn and NR to pay more lawyers to chase the settlement.
Mann is a classic scumbag. Not just as a "scientist" but as a basic human being.
So now Mann wants - again - to draw out the process. He'll never pay, and will force Steyn and NR to pay more lawyers to chase the settlement.
Mann is a classic scumbag. Not just as a "scientist" but as a basic human being.
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