The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

The Dow Jones Industrials...aren't. Most of the stocks that comprise the index are not industrial companies, and the top 10 stock measured by market capitalization are tech and retail heavy. There isn't a traditional industrial corporation until #13: Chevron, and there are only four more companies that I would consider industrials: Caterpillar (#24), Honeywell (#25), and Boeing (#26).

The index is also calculated based on stock price, so a high price but lower market capitalization would influence the index more than a low price but a higher market capitalization. And they massage the index in other ways to make it consistent across all 30 stocks.

Does it represent a broad measure of the state of the American economy?

No. It doesn't have a single small or medium sized company in the index! How can it?

A better way to track the economy, or at least the stock prices of publicly held corporations is to watch the S&P 500, which is a list of about 500 American companies weighted by market capitalization. It's not an exact list of the largest 500 companies, but its pretty close. The Magnificent Seven (i.e., Tesla, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia, Apple and Meta) comprise over 30% of the S&P 500's market capitalization, which makes it pretty tech heavy!

And it still doesn't track small companies, which by many measures are a significant driver of employment in America. The Russell 2000 index is a measure of the bottom 2,000 companies on the Russell 3000 index, which is the 3,000 largest corporations in the country. It includes more than 95% of the publicly traded companies, so it is a pretty good snapshot of the overall economy. The Russell 2000 is about 7% of the market capitalization of the larger 3000 index, so it is a good measure of mid-cap and small-cap companies.

And the NASDAQ 100 is a very tech-heavy index that is also widely observed, but doesn't have much to do with American industrial capacty.

What's the point?

It is difficult to get a good measure of the state of public corporations with one index. They are too varied, both in size and in products. Apple corporation makes its products overseas, and sells in a particular market. Just because its stock may be doing well doesn't necessarily mean that the American economy is doing as well. And just because a few tech companies are flying high because of the demand for certain technology that drive Artificial Intelligence (AI) doesn't mean that the economy is doing as well.

So a more accurate picture of the state of the financial markets should include more than one index. And there are others besides the ones I have mentioned. And because these indexes are plain numbers, it is important that the percentage change is taken into account, rather than the raw change.

October 19th, 1987 saw the Dow drop by 508 points. That doesn't sound so bad, but it was 22.6%... the greatest one-day drop in history. The worst day last week isn't even in the top 20 worst days in history.

I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture of the economy, because the shift toward a tariff-driven trade policy is going to have its downsides, which will be reflected in the stock markets, hopefully just in the short term. It will also have significant upsides in American employment, international trade, and a more rational approach to the national security needs of raw materials and manufactured products.

The problem with our ignorant, biased, and lazy media is that they report the most shocking data, and don't bother with seemingly simple things like percentages vs. raw numbers, historical context, or the difference between the Russell 2000 and the Dow! Why? Well, they are "journalists," which is a placeholder for "mis-educated, innumerate, lazy leftists."

Anyone care to bet that 50% of the "journalists who have confidently pontificated about the financial markets the last several days can't tell you what the Russell 2000 is (it's a sucker bet)?

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Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Wow, you weren't kidding about the incoming.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:02 AM (xCA6C)

2 You can't track the economy with 30 stocks. It's even harder when those stocks don't represent the economy

Posted by: chicagovota at April 08, 2025 11:03 AM (baPXJ)

3 The bigger companies tend to be international enterprises. Small cap indexes better reflect the US economies, though the sector weights are off due to other considerations regarding financing and regulatory compliance(some sectors would prefer to remain private more than others).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at April 08, 2025 11:03 AM (okun6)

4 Especially when one of those 30 stocks is DIS.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 08, 2025 11:04 AM (ufFY8)

5 Some Rent A Twat journalist on Yahoo Finance said that the tariffs aren't working because the market is down.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2025 11:04 AM (17l0u)

6 It's true that a percent change is what matters, but if you watch a given index, you generally know whether a point drop is important or not.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:04 AM (xCA6C)

7 That asshole Trudeau chased my late mother out of the Canadian stock market when we realised everything could be frozen with a few keystrokes. I always saw it as a casino anyways.

She bought stuff that really went up in value.

So thank you asshole Trudeau.

Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 11:04 AM (jvJvP)

8 You want to track the economy?

GDP.

Job growth.

Consumer spending

Prices

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (17l0u)

9 I'm going to withhold judgement until I find out what Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, and Joy Behar think....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (PiwSw)

10 October 19th, 1987 saw the Dow drop by 508 points. That doesn't sound so bad, but it was 22.6%... the greatest one-day drop in history. The worst day last week isn't even in the top 20 worst days in history.

I remember that day well. Jaw agape. A beautiful, sunny fall day, wondering what the next day would bring.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (rj6Yv)

11 Financial News as an industry is a man who is tragically ignorant about mineralogy screaming at an ostrich in an attempt to get it to panic about the sand.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM (VoAdT)

12 I find that the Dow is closer to my stock portfolio than the S&P, but I hold a lot of individual stocks. The S&P is weighted over a third with mag 7 tech, and I don't buy those. My tax deferred mutual funds track against the S&P. So I look at both, but not too closely.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM (zct9C)

13 What's funny is that because they don't understand anything about the real economy, the stock market is acting like some emo baby, and shooting wildly down on one day over rumors, shooting wildly up the next day over other rumors.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM (uWKK8)

14 I look at my own worth, but not every day. I have other things to do.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM (g8Ew8)

15 We’ve been in a recession for years. At least since 2022.

The stock markets are not the economy. They’ve been overvalued for a while.

Inflation is still bad, although down from 2022-2023 highs.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM (l3YAf)

16 Mind you if this sudden dip had happened during the last Administration it would be a wonderful thing and you're a hater for worrying more about your money than starving handicapped POCs who can't afford to walk anywhere.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM (NR6c1)

17 Anyone care to bet that 50% of the "journalists who have confidently pontificated about the financial markets the last several days can't tell you what the Russell 2000 is (it's a sucker bet)?

I took Russell's sucker bet in 2000 at the Concourse C men's restroom at San Francisco International Airport. Totally worth it. Always bet on Black.

Posted by: Sam Brinton at April 08, 2025 11:07 AM (JCZqz)

18 October 19th, 1987 saw the Dow drop by 508 points. That doesn't sound so bad, but it was 22.6%... the greatest one-day drop in history. The worst day last week isn't even in the top 20 worst days in history.

I remember that day well. Jaw agape. A beautiful, sunny fall day, wondering what the next day would bring.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (rj6Yv)

October 20th?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:08 AM (l3YAf)

19 one more reason that I am sliding down the slope of "all official or (self-appointed) authoritative numbers are BS"

these days I go by "gut feel" and SWAG for any numbers not in the CRC or Machinery's Handbook.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at April 08, 2025 11:08 AM (/Ghsb)

20 The stock market has been used as a proxy for the meta economy since Black Monday 1929.

It's essentially a gauge of how the institutions feel about the health and direction of the economy.

If they are sullen, they beat the market down, if they want to make a little coin, they pump the market up and take profits when and where they can.

As noted, I've been investing since the dow was around 2500, I'll start to get antsy if it hits, 25k/

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 11:09 AM (XV/Pl)

21 October 20th?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:08 AM (l3YAf)

You just had to be there.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:09 AM (rj6Yv)

22 I watched a journalist and a lefty hedge fund guy completely subvert the meaning of the word "fungible" to try to paint a foreboding picture of the Economy just yesterday. I heard it once and didn't believe it, but they kept at it. I was nearly quoting Inigo Montoya at my TV before I even got out bed.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 08, 2025 11:10 AM (pIfcn)

23 The problem with our ignorant, biased, and lazy media is that they report the most shocking data, and don't bother with seemingly simple things like percentages vs. raw numbers, historical context, or the difference between the Russell 2000 and the Dow! Why? Well, they are "journalists," which is a placeholder for "mis-educated, innumerate, lazy leftists."

It's not their job to educate or inform, it's their job to let you know that orangemanbad and America is doomed unless you ask for the D.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:10 AM (ExV1e)

24 Mind you if this sudden dip had happened during the last Administration it would be a wonderful thing and you're a hater for worrying more about your money than starving handicapped POCs who can't afford to walk anywhere.
Posted by: NR Pax

It did. In 2022, the market dropped twice what it has in the past couple of weeks. Silence.

Of course, in 2023, we had at least two consecutive quarters of negative GDP, and they pretended that it wasn't a recession.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:10 AM (zct9C)

25 Yeah, journalists (there aren't many reporters around any more) are lazy, stupid asses.

Ya gotta look at all these indexes (indices?) to get a clearer picture. Good summary, CBD, even if you are in cheese eating surrender-monkey land.

A buddy of mine and me are comparing our portfolio losses and laughing (sort of) at the freakouts. He is down around 15%, I am down about 6%. Obviously, our allocations vary greatly.

There will be dislocations for a time (6mo to a year?), but adjustments will be made quickly and the economy will kick in, unless the godless commies continue their damage.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 08, 2025 11:10 AM (ufFY8)

26 I remember Black Monday, October 19, 1987. I was running a renovation of two floors of an advertising agency on Madison Avenue. Tuesday morning, we had a meeting with a couple of the suits about a couple "extras". One guy was a 20-something, one a 50-something who had been around the block.
The young guy, first thing said "At least we're still in business".
Older guy responds "Are you sure"?

Posted by: Carpenters Local 257 at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (G5+As)

27 9 I'm going to withhold judgement until I find out what Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, and Joy Behar think....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (PiwSw)

I wonder what their six year olds or cab drivers think.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)

28 If their producers knew how to funge, they'd be out of a job!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (VoAdT)

29 Robert Reich think?

That'll be a tall order.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (cUqk2)

30 Magnificent Seven (i.e., Tesla, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia, Apple and Meta) comprise over 30% of the S&P 500�s market capitalization, which makes it pretty tech heavy!

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80% of the gains in the sp500 over the past couple of years is due to those 7. It’s a really fucked up index right now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:12 AM (Y5yQx)

31 Green Energy Exec and Federal Bureaucrat Arrested For Vandalizing Multiple Tesla Vehicles on Capitol Hill

Posted by: SMOD at April 08, 2025 11:12 AM (RHGPo)

32 Best case scenario, their job is to entertain.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 08, 2025 11:12 AM (VoAdT)

33 I ran across two leftwing video clips that amused me.

The first had a professor telling students that in capitalism you have to produce more then you get paid so you will never get "what you are worth" - do people think companies will pay you more then you produce? How would that even work? The idea is in a company you can use their resources to produce more then you could on your own so both the company and you benefit. Imagine a factory worker building 10X as many widgets an hour on a factory line then he could by himself at home...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:12 AM (t0Rmr)

34 Mind you if this sudden dip had happened during the last Administration it would be a wonderful thing and you're a hater for worrying more about your money than starving handicapped POCs who can't afford to walk anywhere.
Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM

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An even larger sudden dip did happen, in 2022. Mostly ignored by the Biden loving media except to shrug it off as inconsequential.

Posted by: Bigsmith at April 08, 2025 11:13 AM (1Au9i)

35 27 9 I'm going to withhold judgement until I find out what Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, and Joy Behar think....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (PiwSw)

I wonder what their six year olds or cab drivers think.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)

OK, also Tom Friedman.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

36 I remember that day well. Jaw agape. A beautiful, sunny fall day, wondering what the next day would bring.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (rj6Yv)

I remember it too.
Bought into the loss over the next weeks.
Fire sale!

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (ufFY8)

37 Robert Reich.

Men of his stature are in short supply.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (ZmEVT)

38 @80

>>80% of the gains in the sp500 over the past couple of years is due to those 7. It’s a really fucked up index right now.

Our economy is very tech and tech services oriented and that's why tech companies dominate.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (XV/Pl)

39 Magnificent Seven (i.e., Tesla, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia, Apple and Meta) comprise over 30% of the S&P 500�s market capitalization, which makes it pretty tech heavy!

—

80% of the gains in the sp500 over the past couple of years is due to those 7. It’s a really f***ed up index right now.

Yesterday, I posted a comparison of the 1 week change for the Dow, S&P500, Nasdaq, and Russell 2000. They were all 10 plus or minus 0.5%.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (xCA6C)

40 Once we annex Greenland we will have all the raw materials we need to wrest the high tech supply chain from China.

Posted by: Diabeetus at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (ASvvW)

41 Markets do market things and people lose their fucking minds.

I lost about 10% of my investments. It'll all get clawed back before the end of the month. I have every expectation it'll put another 250K in the kitty by the end of the year.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

42 In an interview on Fox and Friends that, 'we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.' 'What has the globalist economy gotten the United States of America? And the answer is, fundamentally, it’s based on two principles – incurring a huge amount of debt to buy things that other countries make for us,” Vance said.

Chinese officials reacted negatively to the comment from Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday after he described the Chinese economy as fueled by 'peasants.' No 'peasants' were available for comment.

Posted by: SMOD at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (RHGPo)

43 Thanks for making this point in layman's terms. Democrats merely claim the stock market doesn't represent the economy when it's down sharply while a donkey is in the White House.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (LPS7w)

44 Then the second video had someone saying, "I don't want to climb the corporate ladder, get better jobs, or accolades at work. I just want to make enough money to live comfortably and be able to help other people"

And here again the same problem - I don't want to work hard but I want lots of money.

Where do these people think the goods and services they want to "live comfortably" come from if not other people working hard to provide them?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:15 AM (t0Rmr)

45 Well said, CBD. Been a pet peeve of mine for many years. "The [whole] market" isn't up or down because "The Dow" is up or down.

Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 11:15 AM (vf0Y9)

46 Nvidia has a PE ratio of 35 now. 35 years of earnings per share to cover the share price. That isn't an investment, it is a sucker bet.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:15 AM (zct9C)

47 Robert Reich.

Men of his stature are in short supply.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM

People think little of him.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2025 11:16 AM (kgE5c)

48 Well said, CBD. Been a pet peeve of mine for many years. "The [whole] market" isn't up or down because "The Dow" is up or down.
Posted by: Doof at April 08, 2025 11:15 AM (vf0Y9)

Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.

Never not true.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 08, 2025 11:16 AM (VoAdT)

49 Nvidia has a PE ratio of 35 now. 35 years of earnings per share to cover the share price. That isn't an investment, it is a sucker bet.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:15 AM (zct9C)

You just need to be the great fool, not the greater fool...

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 08, 2025 11:16 AM (ufFY8)

50 Chinese officials reacted negatively to the comment

They react negatively to anything other than Joe Biden giving them our nuclear launch codes. I take their butthurt as a positive sign for us.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:16 AM (xCA6C)

51 I wonder what their six year olds or cab drivers think.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)

My six week-old said “Orangemanbad! Tariffs are trans genocide!” And everybody on the stock market stood and clapped.

Posted by: Liberal at April 08, 2025 11:17 AM (l3YAf)

52 DJIA may be “only” 30 companies but they’re still a good barometer of economic activity.

Visa and Amex are part of it. It’s just two companies but they represents consumer spending at large. How well Visa and Amex make do represents how how much consumers are spending. When caterpillar does well, there’s construction activity. When Home Depot does well it’s a broader indicator of housing. Every one of the companies represents a broader economic sector.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:17 AM (Y5yQx)

53 Huh? I thought certain guys have been doing that for millennia!

World's first sperm transplant:
https://tinyurl.com/59j9hs5r

Posted by: OrangeEnt at April 08, 2025 11:17 AM (0eaVi)

54 Stock started off as a way for people to jointly pool their assets to accomplish something that would make a profit that then they would share it.

Along the way stocks have become a kind of legalized gambling.

Its odd if you stop to think about it.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:17 AM (t0Rmr)

55 @41 "I have every expectation it'll put another 250K in the kitty by the end of the year."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

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I'm not familar with the concept of sticking large sums of cash "in the kitty."

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 08, 2025 11:17 AM (LPS7w)

56 Pigs get slaughtered.

*passes lipstick*

Posted by: Little piggy getting fat at April 08, 2025 11:18 AM (ufFY8)

57 Where do these people think the goods and services they want to "live comfortably" come from if not other people working hard to provide them?

Mom and Dad's estate?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:18 AM (xCA6C)

58 I'm not familar with the concept of sticking large sums of cash "in the kitty."/i]

Didn't Gwyneth Paltrow introduce a golden sex toy at Goop?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:18 AM (t0Rmr)

59 Let us not table the periodic reminder that AtC does not appreciate short snark.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 08, 2025 11:18 AM (a3Q+t)

60 The Stock market is a dramatic teenage girl.

Posted by: RI Red at April 08, 2025 11:19 AM (ijbJm)

61 You can't track the economy with 30 stocks.

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You can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

62 61 You can't track the economy with 30 stocks.

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You can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:19 AM (L/fGl)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (bss/y)

63 Oh and I saw a third video with a woman complaining that there were no negative impacts to Fedgov just endlessly printing more money.

And I guess if you control the media enough to hide the impacts of Bidenflation that's sort of true.

Of course the same people complain about everyone else raising their prices in an era of hyperinflation like we had under Biden

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (t0Rmr)

64 All else aside, if China really bans Hollywood movies, that might be the end of Hollywood - they've staked a huge amount on the Chinese market while alienating their own audiences.

If these tariffs break the back of that industry, it's already a massive benefit, right out of the gate.

But I doubt China would really hack off one of their most effective propaganda and agitation organs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (BI5O2)

65 Let us not table the periodic reminder that AtC does not appreciate short snark.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 08, 2025 11:18 AM

I'm 5'6". I'll snark at Reich all I want.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 08, 2025 11:21 AM (kgE5c)

66 The Stock market is a dramatic teenage girl.

Daddy Trump if you don't give me my Chinese allowance back I'm going to HOLD BE BREATH UNTIL I DIE!

Posted by: The Teenage Stock Market at April 08, 2025 11:21 AM (t0Rmr)

67 The constant money printing to keep the stock market ever rising, executives with incentives to keep stock prices high, forever low interest rates and constant bailouts so companies can't die with dignity make me leery of the stock markets.

But I know crap.

I have seen enough of "American Greed" to also scare the crap out of me. I can send you monthly pieces of paper too telling you how much 'you own.'

Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 11:21 AM (jvJvP)

68 Do 'journalists' not write about this detail because they are dumb and don't understand it, or because their goal is to propagandize and keeping things simple is key (though they otherwise do understand it)? I think 10, maybe 15+ years ago it was the latter. But after decades of propaganda, the current generation really is dumb and only understands the propaganda. They are the idiot monsters of their evil Dr. Frankenstein predecessors...

Posted by: bearski at April 08, 2025 11:21 AM (Bhsk7)

69 Have they made back the $9-trillion yet??

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (/tzYP)

70 Y'all are just jealous that Robert Reic-c-c-c-h-h-h-h can still wear the Sears Toughskins she bought him in 1959.

Posted by: Two Drinks He's Under The Table at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (G5+As)

71 I kinda feel like the squealing days after the Trump tariffs kicked in is akin to the outsized concern when, say, journalists and fedgov people are laid off.

I am not that invested in the comfort of people who have hated me for years, and been, at best, indifferent to average Americans' economic pains (or worse, enjoyed it and told us we deserved it).

For better or worse, I voted for this.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (Cki93)

72 Election WizardElectionWiz
BREAKING—In court documents, the DOJ revealed that Trump assassin Ryan Routh tried to buy military weapons from Ukraine to kill Trump, including a rocket launcher

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)

73 China is about to kill Hollywood? More tariffs please!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (Y5yQx)

74 You want to track the economy?

GDP.

Lutnick, the Commerce Secretary, has thoughts in GDP and how it's a bullshit measurement - as currently calculated.

https://youtu.be/182ckTL2KBA?t=2670

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)

75 The constant money printing to keep the stock market ever rising, executives with incentives to keep stock prices high, forever low interest rates and constant bailouts so companies can't die with dignity make me leery of the stock markets.

This is exactly what the left claims to hate BTW.

Inflationary money printing advantages politically connected, wealthy people, who can get early access to the inflated Bidenbux. Joe Normie just sees the prices of everything he buys go up faster then his salary.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)

76 65 Let us not table the periodic reminder that AtC does not appreciate short snark.
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Snarks and quarks??

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:23 AM (/tzYP)

77 I have seen enough of "American Greed" to also scare the crap out of me. I can send you monthly pieces of paper too telling you how much 'you own.'

Could be worse.

Posted by: Chinese workers invested in Chinese real estate at April 08, 2025 11:23 AM (xCA6C)

78 I remember it too.
Bought into the loss over the next weeks.
Fire sale!
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (ufFY

And just over a year later, #41 wiped the floor with Dukakis.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:23 AM (rj6Yv)

79 68 Do 'journalists' not write about this detail because they are dumb and don't understand it, or because their goal is to propagandize and keeping things simple is key (though they otherwise do understand it)?

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Both. They’re dumb as fuck and leftist garbage.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:23 AM (Y5yQx)

80 >>Anyone care to bet that 50% of the "journalists who have confidently pontificated about the financial markets the last several days can't tell you what the Russell 2000 is (it's a sucker bet)?

Same people who cry about climate change but couldn't tell you the optimal amount of CO2.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:24 AM (Cki93)

81 BREAKING—In court documents, the DOJ revealed that Trump assassin Ryan Routh tried to buy military weapons from Ukraine to kill Trump, including a rocket launcher

Well that explains what he was doing there versus the lie he told of recruiting mercs for the war.

Now can we find out which government agency was paying him to be there?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:24 AM (t0Rmr)

82 The constant money printing to keep the stock market ever rising, executives with incentives to keep stock prices high, forever low interest rates and constant bailouts so companies can't die with dignity make me leery of the stock markets.

But I know crap.

I have seen enough of "American Greed" to also scare the crap out of me. I can send you monthly pieces of paper too telling you how much 'you own.'
Posted by: Stateless...86% - mental state clawing up from 10% at April 08, 2025 11:21 AM (jvJvP)

I'm not an economist (nor pretend to be) but the bailouts are the thing I think are the most dangerous. Automakers, hollywood, whatever. If you do not let people suffer the consequences of their bad decisions, then they will never learn anything. The company doesn't have to face 'hey, we should not have done that.' or 'Maybe we are not making what people want?'

You enable. With other people's money. That they did not give to those companies in the first place intentionally- which is why the companies were failing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:24 AM (bss/y)

83 All else aside, if China really bans Hollywood movies, that might be the end of Hollywood - they've staked a huge amount on the Chinese market while alienating their own audiences.

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Oh, Br'er Chicoms, don't throw us into that briarpatch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:24 AM (L/fGl)

84 >>All else aside, if China really bans Hollywood movies, that might be the end of Hollywood - they've staked a huge amount on the Chinese market while alienating their own audiences.

They chose poorly.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:25 AM (Cki93)

85 BREAKING—In court documents, the DOJ revealed that Trump assassin Ryan Routh tried to buy military weapons from Ukraine to kill Trump, including a rocket launcher
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)

Anyone else think that is beyond normal nutbar weird?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:25 AM (bss/y)

86 I remember Black Monday, October 19, 1987.

Didn't they shut down trading for, like, four days so people could calm the fuck down?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (ExV1e)

87 I shorted all my stocks! Winner!

Posted by: Robert Reich at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (w9Wax)

88 72 Election WizardElectionWiz
BREAKING—In court documents, the DOJ revealed that Trump assassin Ryan Routh tried to buy military weapons from Ukraine to kill Trump, including a rocket launcher
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:22 AM (L/fGl)

The Secret Service still wouldn't have noticed him.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (pIfcn)

89 If you do not let people suffer the consequences of their bad decisions, then they will never learn anything/i]

If you know Uncle Sugar will cover your losses while letting you keep your winnings...why wouldn't you invest in the most risky thing you could?

To use the analogy of a Casino, why go to the poker table where you have to learn to play the game when you could just go to the highest pay out slot machine and sticks Uncle Sugar's coins in until you win?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (t0Rmr)

90 I’d bet most financial journalists can’t tell you the difference between debt and deficit or what marginal tax rate means. But they’ll wax poetically about how Trump is causing a second Great Depression.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (Y5yQx)

91 A few things to note, as well:

- all GDP “growth” over the last 3 years assumes the Feds haven’t been underestimating inflation. Does anyone feel like the official inflation numbers match their real-world experience with prices?

- all GDP “growth” over the last three years was government stimulus. In 2024, GDP rose by about $1.5 trillion but the national debt exploded by about $2.3 trillion. That doesn’t include increases in state and local debts, either.

What does it mean when “official GDP” is barely growing, inflation is raging (but undercounted), and the only thing keeping us from negative GDP prints is trillions per-year in government debt?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (l3YAf)

92 I remember that day well. Jaw agape. A beautiful, sunny fall day, wondering what the next day would bring.
I remember it too...but basically didn't care. Stocks go up, they go down. It was all back to the original spot within...what...6 months, maybe less.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (y2f7I)

93 >>Along the way stocks have become a kind of legalized gambling.
Its odd if you stop to think about it.

And after the Gamestop thing, you are a fool if you think it isn't rigged by the big guys.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (Cki93)

94 35 27 9 I'm going to withhold judgement until I find out what Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, and Joy Behar think....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (PiwSw)

I wonder what their six year olds or cab drivers think.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)

OK, also Tom Friedman.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

David Brooks is taking someone out for a sandwich who can't understand the menu, but has invaluable thoughts on the stock market and tariffs.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (V9cMX)

95 Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.

Posted by: one hour sober at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (Y1sOo)

96 All else aside, if China really bans Hollywood movies, that might be the end of Hollywood - they've staked a huge amount on the Chinese market while alienating their own audiences.
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Led Dawn -- "Avengee mee!"

There! I wanted to use that one in the Art Thread but missed my chance while having breakfast.

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (/tzYP)

97 Real Inflation has been 10-20% per year.

If your income and the GDP haven't kept pace you've been losing money each year.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (t0Rmr)

98 The time to load up on stocks was 2001, 2003, 2008, 2020, and now.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (zct9C)

99 remember Black Monday, October 19, 1987.

Didn't they shut down trading for, like, four days so people could calm the fuck down?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (ExV1e)

No they didn’t.

You may be thinking of 9/11. Markets were closed for a few days. But that was probably more to do with it being in NYC than an effort to calm people.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (Y5yQx)

100 63 Oh and I saw a third video with a woman complaining that there were no negative impacts to Fedgov just endlessly printing more money.
Posted by: 18-1

If you want crazy, YouTube has a "Marxian Economics Professor" named Richard Wolff who has a channel. He's said repeatedly that printing money doesn't cause inflation, the greed of capitalist businessmen does. When the government prints and distribute money, all the businesses COULD keep their prices the same, everyone could buy more, which means we'd need to increase production, and hire more people, in a self-reinforcing spiral of prosperity.

Instead, capitalists get greedy, artificially inflate prices because people will pay, forcing other businesses to do the same, causing inflation and punishing the poor and working classes.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (JCZqz)

101 Never put your rocket launcher in carry on luggage.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (LkLld)

102 91 What does it mean when “official GDP” is barely growing, inflation is raging (but undercounted), and the only thing keeping us from negative GDP prints is trillions per-year in government debt?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (l3YAf)

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"That we should fix things by nibbling at the edges of the problem without making anyone mad because Republicans might lose 3 extra House seats next year."
-NRO

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)

103 four more companies that I would consider industrials: Caterpillar (#24), Honeywell (#25), and Boeing (#26).

There are THREE COMPANIES!!!

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (WPL6O)

104 Top three things that are currently making Democrats angry:
1) preventing men from competing against women in sports
2) cutting fraud, waste, abuse and misuse from the federal budget
3) restoring trade to benefit the American citizen

Just who do they represent, if that's what they are protesting against?
Who benefits from stopping those three?
Because it isn't America, it isn't Americans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (r/ymJ)

105 I find that the Dow is closer to my stock portfolio than the S&P, but I hold a lot of individual stocks. The S&P is weighted over a third with mag 7 tech, and I don't buy those. My tax deferred mutual funds track against the S&P. So I look at both, but not too closely.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:06 AM

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My wife and I are at the age where we need to get out of "growth" stocks anyway. Preferred stock is less volatile, and the higher (and reliable) dividends are a good stipend for retirement. Most tech dividends, to the extent they exist, are crap.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (wzAuc)

106
Ladies! It's the brand new craze that's sweeping the nation!

Get naked at the airport!!!

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/04/07/

there-appears-to-be-a-naked-woman-epidemic-

engulfing-air-travel-n2654912

You don't even need a hula-hoop to join in!....though uh...if you wanted to bring a hula-hoop along and work it...well, that would be just fine!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (iJfKG)

107 "October 19th, 1987 saw the Dow drop by 508 points. That doesn't sound so bad, but it was 22.6%... the greatest one-day drop in history. The worst day last week isn't even in the top 20 worst days in history."
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I remember that day well. I lived in a cul-de-sac in a subdivision just outside of Houston. By 6:00 PM the street was full of people, commiserating with one another, with stiff drinks in their hands. Turned into one hell of a block party.

Posted by: javems at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM (8I4hW)

108 I remember Black Monday, October 19, 1987.

Didn't they shut down trading for, like, four days so people could calm the fuck down?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:26 AM (ExV1e)

I was in college taking an economics class that semester. The prof went nuts although I’ve forgotten what he said…. But my primary takeaway from that incident is that it was a complete nothing burger…. A month later it was a big nothing. Why? I have no idea but it just didn’t matter in the long run ( or even the medium term)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (nrfI8)

109 Heh.... I recall a story a while back about how the nVidia founder's mom was REALLY ANGRY that he did a startup rather than taking a safe, steady job.

> Anyone care to bet that 50% of the "journalists who have confidently pontificated about the financial markets the last several days can't tell you what the Russell 2000 is (it's a sucker bet)?

Low bar. 50% of them probably couldn't tell you the difference between a credit card and a debit card.

It's a safe bet that any "journalist" "covering" a field where the actual experts in that field make significantly more than "journalists" is a babbling fucktard.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (W5ArC)

110 And after the Gamestop thing, you are a fool if you think it isn't rigged by the big guys.

The Nancy Pelosi ETF is 3X the market over the last few years.

Now...why would that be?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (t0Rmr)

111 64 All else aside, if China really bans Hollywood movies, that might be the end of Hollywood - they've staked a huge amount on the Chinese market while alienating their own audiences.

If these tariffs break the back of that industry, it's already a massive benefit, right out of the gate.

But I doubt China would really hack off one of their most effective propaganda and agitation organs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (BI5O2)

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Hollywood doesn't make very much in China anymore.

About $500 million last year compared to the nearly $9 billion in America.

China threatening to cut off Hollywood is an empty threat. Chinese movies replaced Hollywood movies in China years ago.

The biggest movie of the year globally is a Chinese animated movie. Almost all of its money was made in China.

Ne Zha 2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

112 95 Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.
Posted by: one hour sober at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (Y1sOo)

Pretty much a perfect name.

https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)

113 If you’re a long term investor, today is the best day to buy. And tomorrow will also be the best day to buy. And the day after that. And so forth.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (Y5yQx)

114 In an interview on Fox and Friends that, 'we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.' 'What has the globalist economy gotten the United States of America? And the answer is, fundamentally, it’s based on two principles – incurring a huge amount of debt to buy things that other countries make for us,” Vance said.

Chinese officials reacted negatively to the comment from Vice President JD Vance on Tuesday after he described the Chinese economy as fueled by 'peasants.' No 'peasants' were available for comment.
Posted by: SMOD at April 08, 2025 11:14 AM (RHGPo)

What was Vance thinking? We borrow money from communist apparatchiks to buy the things Chinese peasants produce.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (ExV1e)

115 Missed the art thread. Shucks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 11:30 AM (/U5Yz)

116 If you want crazy, YouTube has a "Marxian Economics Professor" named Richard Wolff who has a channel.
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Dire Wolff??

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:30 AM (/tzYP)

117 Tell the Chinks no more American cigarettes and no more internet porn. Then see how fast they get in line.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:30 AM (gm9Sb)

118 Never put your rocket launcher in carry on luggage.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2025 11:28 AM

Not to worry. I always carry my one-eyed heat-seeking missile, how you say, with me.

Posted by: Paolo at April 08, 2025 11:30 AM (a3Q+t)

119 Same people who cry about climate change but couldn't tell you the optimal amount of CO2.
Those idiots can't even state what percentage of the atmosphere is CO2 to within 3 orders of magnitude. Completely clueless.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 08, 2025 11:30 AM (y2f7I)

120 Sec Bessent had a good interview last week, explaining that all GDP growth since 2021 has been due to illegal aliens spending borrowed money given to them by the government.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (zct9C)

121 Mr. Drysdale knew how to run a bank at a profit, keep an expensive wife in furs, and cultivate a hot secretarial pool.

We miss him and his executive prowess.

Posted by: The Commerce Bank of Beverly Hills at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (G5+As)

122 63 Oh and I saw a third video with a woman complaining that there were no negative impacts to Fedgov just endlessly printing more money.

And I guess if you control the media enough to hide the impacts of Bidenflation that's sort of true.

Of course the same people complain about everyone else raising their prices in an era of hyperinflation like we had under Biden
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (t0Rmr)

This is Modern Monetary Theory, which was in vogue during the COVID times - Bloomberg went a long way toward promoting its biggest proponent, Stephanie Kelton. You haven't heard much from her or MMT lately.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (V1Js5)

123 https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)

Kind of a Sissy Spacek/Charlotte Rampling hybrid...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (PiwSw)

124 so, how is NVDA doing, good?

There are some articles out there that point out that if things are not all blended together, stocks and finance have been doing gangbusters for 4 years, but the street level business has been in recession.

But, the tech-bro's and venture capitalists only hang out on Main Street rarely.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (D7oie)

125 You can't track the economy with 30 stocks.

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You can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd.

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You can't get to heaven on roller skates
You can't take a taxicab to Timbuktu

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (TN0g+)

126 Of course, all of the so-called "financial experts" ignore the trillions of dollars of funny money which has flooded the economy and the stock market.

At some point, the piper will have to be paid for that stupidity.

But yeah, it's all due to President Trump's economic policies.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (tT6L1)

127 120 Sec Bessent had a good interview last week, explaining that all GDP growth since 2021 has been due to illegal aliens spending borrowed money given to them by the government.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (zct9C)

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Remove federal government funding from the GDP, not even state and local, and the US economy hasn't grown since 2007.

With a steady, followed by a very large, increase in immigration.

Millennials and Gen-Z wonder why things are so much harder now than before? That's a very large reason why.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)

128 > Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.

Zombie eyes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (W5ArC)

129 Then the second video had someone saying, "I don't want to climb the corporate ladder, get better jobs, or accolades at work. I just want to make enough money to live comfortably and be able to help other people"

There are two options to accomplish that.

1. Live paycheck to paycheck. Work until you die. Get lucky.
2. Get in on the leftwing grift machine and live high on the hog on money stolen from others.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (ExV1e)

130 The Dow is just an indicator, nothing more. Don't go ascribing motives to people using it that aren't there and never were. The effect on tariffs can only be negative. Simple thinking (very simple) will tell you this. If tariffs don't allow domestic companies to raise prices on their products, then they have no effect. If they do allow it, then, ipso facto, items become more expensive for Americans. This leaves less money to spend on other things. In other words, the government is picking the winners, something you would have complained about just a few months ago. Read Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams on tariffs. Or Milton Friedman. Lots of resources on this from learned people.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (P7Iz+)

131 The biggest movie of the year globally is a Chinese animated movie. Almost all of its money was made in China.

Ne Zha 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

They can control the message easier if it is homegrown.

Also, shit like live action Mulan has got to be insulting.

Although, by the same token, I would find propaganda insulting. So what do I know.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (bss/y)

132 The Dow is a 'false prophet' of the economy. The index itself is rigged to always go up over time. If a stock doesn't perform, it gets pulled and replaced by a better performer.

See, for instance, Raytheon, GE, and Intel...

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (hDAOz)

133 Can’t blame the nvidia mom. For every nvidia there are 100 start ups that go nowhere and lose all investor money.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (Y5yQx)

134 125 You can't track the economy with 30 stocks.
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You can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd.
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You can't get to heaven on roller skates
You can't take a taxicab to Timbuktu
Posted by: Crusader

You can't triple stamp a double stamp!

Posted by: Harry Dunn at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (JCZqz)

135 121 Mr. Drysdale knew how to run a bank at a profit, keep an expensive wife in furs, and cultivate a hot secretarial pool.

We miss him and his executive prowess.
Posted by: The Commerce Bank of Beverly Hills at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (G5+As)

Why thank you!

Posted by: Miss Jane Hathaway at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (PiwSw)

136 I wish that there was an “S&P 493” index to track the largest publicly traded companies, while excluding the “Magnificent Seven” bubble stocks.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (p6zRz)

137 >>Hollywood doesn't make very much in China anymore.

How many movies are funded by Chinese nowadays?
Saw a comment once that if a movie has a scene set in China, that means the movie has some Chinese funding.

Are they any more dependent on Chinese investors than they are in Chinese audience?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (Cki93)

138 Just wondering how many ships Shoshana Chatfield ran aground or into another ship? Over/under = 2.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 08, 2025 11:33 AM (y2f7I)

139 131 They can control the message easier if it is homegrown.

Also, shit like live action Mulan has got to be insulting.

Although, by the same token, I would find propaganda insulting. So what do I know.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (bss/y)

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Oh, the Chinese reaction to Mulan was hilarious.

Japanese designs in the set architecture everywhere because the white people in charge thought it looked good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:33 AM (GBKbO)

140 Oh and I saw a third video with a woman complaining that there were no negative impacts to Fedgov just endlessly printing more money.

And I guess if you control the media enough to hide the impacts of Bidenflation that's sort of true.

Of course the same people complain about everyone else raising their prices in an era of hyperinflation like we had under Biden
Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (t0Rmr)

The government can print infinity dollars, and it won’t create inflation.

Also, if there is inflation it’s because of corporate greed.

Posted by: Stephanie Kelter, Modern Monetary Theorist at April 08, 2025 11:33 AM (l3YAf)

141 https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y

Charlize Theron

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (D7oie)

142 She’ll let you take her home
It whets her appetite
She’ll lay you on the throne
She got zombie NATO eyes, the song plays

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (/tzYP)

143 Kind of a Sissy Spacek/Charlotte Rampling hybrid...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (PiwSw)

I'd almost put her as a 1. You know, aside from the crazy woke shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (bss/y)

144 Millennials and Gen-Z wonder why things are so much harder now than before? That's a very large reason why.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)

Bruh what? It’s all cuz boomers. They’re the reason for every bad thing on the planet.
- GenZ and Millenials

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (Y5yQx)

145 The people in America yelling the angriest about Trump's tariffs are the ones making the most money off of exploiting Americans.

Consider a stock market--wholly controlled by the massive brokerage firms--reacting in a panic to a President wanting to make deals that are best for America.
Whose side are they on?

Then ponder further that the same party that held months-long protests not even 20 years ago, under the banner of "Occupy Wall Street," is the same party now fielding protestors to "Protect Wall Street!"
Whose side are they on?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (r/ymJ)

146 1987 Black Monday

My dad watched Louis Rukeyser on PBS. He walked out with gag broken limbs and crutches, bandaged up as bad as Wiley Coyote.

In his later years he watched Jim Cramer. What a downgrade the era of cable tv has been.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (lEahz)

147 > Why thank you!
Posted by: Miss Jane Hathaway at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (PiwSw)

Miss Jane was also appreciative of the hot secretarial pool.

Her pretend-lust for Jethro was just a beard. Like Rosie O'Donnell pretending to lust for Tom Cruise.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (W5ArC)

148 [o]95 Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.
Posted by: one hour sober at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (Y1sOo)

Pretty much a perfect name.

https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Kind of Meryl Streepy.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (/U5Yz)

149 137 How many movies are funded by Chinese nowadays?
Saw a comment once that if a movie has a scene set in China, that means the movie has some Chinese funding.

Are they any more dependent on Chinese investors than they are in Chinese audience?
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (Cki93)

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Those are far less frequent now than they were. Transformers 5 had something like that. The Martian had something like that.

I can't think of a major movie in the past 5 years that has done it (I'm probably missing one because I'm not an encyclopedia).

The Martian was 10 years ago. The collapse of the Chinese market for Hollywood killed Hollywood's desire to kowtow to China, and it killed Chinese need to control Hollywood.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

150 111 64 All else aside, if China really bans Hollywood movies, that might be the end of Hollywood - they've staked a huge amount on the Chinese market while alienating their own audiences.

If these tariffs break the back of that industry, it's already a massive benefit, right out of the gate.

But I doubt China would really hack off one of their most effective propaganda and agitation organs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (BI5O2)

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Hollywood doesn't make very much in China anymore.

About $500 million last year compared to the nearly $9 billion in America.

China threatening to cut off Hollywood is an empty threat. Chinese movies replaced Hollywood movies in China years ago.

-snip-

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

Donald Trump learned a very important lesson 35 years ago, which is one he's about to reintroduce to the world: If you owe the bank $1 million, you've got a big problem. If you owe the bank $1 billion, they've got a big problem. He's using our trade deficits (and our markets) as leverage to show the world that this will hurt them more than us.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (V1Js5)

151 The USG does not borrow money to buy anything Chinese peasants produce. The USG borrows money to keep the USG running. Pure and simple.

If you want to stanch the borrowing, slow the spending. Or raise taxes. Or do a bit of both. Taxes aren't the way to go. So stop spending.

It's that simple.

You do that and the Americans will still do what they have done before - pick and choose how they spend their money, whether on something a Chinese peasant makes or something an American makes.

Posted by: Diabeetus at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (ASvvW)

152 ttps://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y

Charlize Theron
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (D7oie)

She's an African-American.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (rj6Yv)

153 Why thank you!
Posted by: Miss Jane Hathaway
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Your efficiency arouses me greatly.

Posted by: george costanza at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (/tzYP)

154 136 I wish that there was an “S&P 493” index to track the largest publicly traded companies, while excluding the “Magnificent Seven” bubble stocks.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (p6zRz)

Easy. Take the return of the 500 then back out 80%. There’s your 493 return.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (Y5yQx)

155 > My dad watched Louis Rukeyser on PBS.

Ah, yes. Back when PBS had the occasional show that wasn't communist propaganda on its face.

As I recall, they screwed Rukeyser over pretty hard. After he left, the show didn't last long.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM (W5ArC)

156 CBD: "There isn't a traditional industrial corporation until #13: Chevron, and there are only four more companies that I would consider industrials: Caterpillar (#24), Honeywell (#25), and Boeing (#26)."

Well, tech and pharmaceutical can also be "industrial", in the sense that they manufacture physical products.

Proctor & Gamble, NVidia, Sherwin Williams, J&J, Merck, Cisco, Amgen. 3M. These are all industrial companies.

Posted by: Pastafarian at April 08, 2025 11:36 AM (tWGrL)

157 Pagodas all look alike.

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:36 AM (/tzYP)

158 123 https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (bss/y)

Kind of a Sissy Spacek/Charlotte Rampling hybrid...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2025 11:31 AM (PiwSw)

Also looks like Cynthia Nixon.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 11:36 AM (V1Js5)

159 Charlize Theron
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:34 AM (D7oie)

Is there another Charlize Theron I do not know about?

https://tinyurl.com/5bvsxc9e

For the leg minded 'Rons.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)

160 I'm not worried.

Posted by: Archer at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (IDphi)

161 Don’t the Chinese steal all Hollywood IP anyway? So how much profit is there?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (Y5yQx)

162 But I doubt China would really hack off one of their most effective propaganda and agitation organs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:20 AM (BI5O2)

From a totally rational point of view, that is right, but I suspect that the "profoundly Chinese focused Chinese people who promote traditional Chinese values" are totally comfortable with such profoundly Western institutions like Hollywood. They might see cultural value in banning Western movies, and this may be a good pretext.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (D7oie)

163 >Bruh what? It’s all cuz boomers. They’re the reason for every bad thing on the planet.

The stereotypical boomer will tell their 2.1 grandkids to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. "What worked for me" was a hugely superior job market, housing market, dating market and education. The country became predatory all around them, but so slowly that they didn't notice.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (lEahz)

164 Nvidia is around $100, down from $140 six months ago.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (zct9C)

165 I think most Americans are tired of all the negativity and panic pron and lying. I think most would like to be happy and left alone and hear positive news about our country.

After the first three months of Covid, leaders should have come out and said, “hey, that was kind of scary, but we are over the hump now. There will still be some outbreaks and deaths, but let’s get back on track and back to work and back to school.”

Same with today and the economy. And foreign relations. If the press was to change their tune and be encouraging and positive, they would win back some folks. Maybe a lot of folks.

But negativity and panic pron is what they do.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (HMS1n)

166 >>Those are far less frequent now than they were. Transformers 5 had something like that. The Martian had something like that.

Oh good.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:38 AM (Cki93)

167 165 But negativity and panic pron is what they do.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (HMS1n)

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Watch promos for The Weather Channel.

The Weather Channel sells itself on fear.

The freaking Weather Channel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

168 Billionaires yes! Babies no!

Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Hakeem Jeffries: MAGA Extremists want to starve babies so their billionaire puppet masters can make more money.
21% approval is still WAY too high for this clown.

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I imagine Extreme Hakeem got this talking point from some commie rat bastard Mad Libs game.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)

169 147 J. D. Clampett Petroleum Enterprises, chaired by one Jethro Bodine, CEO, CFO. Mr. Bodine is a graduate of the Harvard School of 'rithmetic and Cipheren, taught in the Granny Clampett Memorial Hall.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:39 AM (gm9Sb)

170 I learned what the Russell 2000 and Russell 3000 are today. I'll probably forget what they are by May, but since I'm not a reporter writing about the economy or stock market, my ignorance of them does not matter.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 11:39 AM (CKOCg)

171 123 https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Maybe Gwenyth Paltrow? https://tinyurl.com/y3hcwnyu

Not a perfect match, but some similar vibes. Plus, she was just discussed for her gold sex toy line lol.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at April 08, 2025 11:39 AM (JCZqz)

172 Posted by: Miss Jane Hathaway
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Your efficiency arouses me greatly.
Posted by: george costanza at April 08, 2025 11:35 AM

Poor baby, that water was really cold, eh?

Posted by: Miss Jane Hathaway at April 08, 2025 11:39 AM (a3Q+t)

173 It's time to pay the fiddler,
But before we pay the fiddler,
Let's ask him to please play one last
Final tune. Bom,bom, bommm...

Posted by: Conway Twitty at April 08, 2025 11:39 AM (G5+As)

174 The biggest movie of the year globally is a Chinese animated movie. Almost all of its money was made in China.

Ne Zha 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

I believe that.

I can't imagine the movie doing well worldwide.

I just finished reading the story/plot and it's almost incomprehensibly insane with almost no logical follow through.

I guess that you have to be Chinese and familiar with the culture to really appreciate it.

Or, maybe it's just really animated well with lots of pretty colors and it keeps the kiddies amazed that way.

That could work.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (iJfKG)

175 There's a little insulation from the tariff economy for companies such as Apple and Samsung in that so many people who live by a payment budget don't consider the upgrade on their phone to be a purchase. It's factored into the monthly payment and the "phone bill" went up, but the phone was free!
So for the very few people who actually buy their phones they see the price increase, for everyone else it's just the phone bill. That'll keep phone sales from taking the same beating that automobiles might see.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (FCbAQ)

176 Does anyone feel like the official inflation numbers match their real-world experience with prices?

Officially, inflation measurements don't include anything whose prices are subject to inflation. This is done to minimize COLA adjustments.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (ExV1e)

177 The Weather Channel sells itself on fear.

The freaking Weather Channel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)
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Polar Vortex for the win! Also, there was some weather phenomena which had the word "bomb" appended to it. My aging memory can't quite pull it up. Or, I'll remember about two seconds after I hit "post."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (tT6L1)

178 > They might see cultural value in banning Western movies, and this may be a good pretext.
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (D7oie)

Some of them call our media "cultural weapons of mass destruction".

I think it was Neal Stephenson who said something like "when a traditional third-world father sees his son coming home in 'shorts' that hang past his knees and a Chicago Bulls baseball cap with the brim turned sideways, it's not surprising that he grabs a machete and starts chopping off heads".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (W5ArC)

179 I'm still waiting for DOW 10K again, with the CNBC 10K party hats. ... Nasdaq passed over 5000 then went all the way back to ~1450 after dotcom bubble burst.

That was around 2000. Then they did TARP and QE and now "Modern Monetary Theory. I doubt DOW goes back to 10K (666 on SnP iirc) ... but still room for downside ... or maybe the "Buy Every Dip" wins again and the passive bid just keeps plowing all their savings into "The Market".

I haven't sold anything, but haven't bought anything either.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (Cus5s)

180 >>One of the top U.S. military officers at NATO headquarters in Brussels has been fired by the Trump administration in the latest effort to erase so-called woke policies, sources confirmed Monday to multiple news outlets.

Officials said it was apparently tied to comments Vice Adm. Shoshana Chatfield has made that supported diversity in the force.

At least it's not a transwoman, which I kinda expected.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:41 AM (Cki93)

181 Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.
Posted by: one hour sober at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM (Y1sOo)

Pretty much a perfect name.

https://tinyurl.com/4bjazyzw

She looks like an actress and I cannot think of the name.

Also, I denounce myself. I thought from the name that she would be black.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Kind of Meryl Streepy.
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Waffle House 5.

Posted by: Crusader at April 08, 2025 11:41 AM (TN0g+)

182 Millennials and Gen-Z wonder why things are so much harder now than before? That's a very large reason why.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)

You mean, it is not due to them being profligate spenders who waste their money on things like new phones and flashy clothes and streaming services instead of dutifully saving their money in 2% interest CDs in an 8% inflationary economy?

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:41 AM (D7oie)

183 What was Vance thinking? We borrow money from communist apparatchiks to buy the things Chinese peasants produce.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (ExV1e)

We’re not borrowing much money from China at all. Most of the money the FedGov borrows comes from domestic sources. Same for U.S. consumers.

It’s more like “We borrow money from U.S. banks and investors, who are backstopped by the Federal Reserve and who have guaranteed profits.”

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (l3YAf)

184 I’m sure it’s been said, but the same people bitching about the stock market now we’re just fine with destroying the economy over a virus with a 99.99% survivability rate.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (u73oe)

185 Bomb cyclone

Posted by: one hour sober at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (Y1sOo)

186 But negativity and panic pron is what they do.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (HMS1n)

And then there are the rousing cheers from American steelworkers, who loudly proclaim that Donald Trump saved the US steel industry. i put more trust in their opinion than in a herd of trust-funded deskbound weasels with little sense and less intellect.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (rj6Yv)

187 >>Polar Vortex for the win! Also, there was some weather phenomena which had the word "bomb" appended to it.

It was "bomb cyclone."

My favorite: "atmospheric river"

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (Cki93)

188 As I recall, they screwed Rukeyser over pretty hard. After he left, the show didn't last long.
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TBF, a near-empty studio with a silent guest sitting on the other side of a desk isn't exactly riveting TV.

Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (/tzYP)

189 TIAA just sent me a statement yesterday. The "Dow Jones U.S. Total Stock Market Float Adjusted Index" was up 26.28% for the 1 year average. That might be April 2024 - Mar 2025. Anyway I think it means the stock market was due for a correction. Even with inflation a 26% gain with the last 10 months of Biden's term is bullshit.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (CKOCg)

190 >>The Weather Channel sells itself on fear.

>>The freaking Weather Channel.

Well why not? Global warming worked to change the entire western world economics and its completely made up bullshit.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (LkLld)

191 Billionaires yes! Babies no!

Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Hakeem Jeffries: MAGA Extremists want to starve babies so their billionaire puppet masters can make more money.
21% approval is still WAY too high for this clown.

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I imagine Extreme Hakeem got this talking point from some commie rat bastard Mad Libs game.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)

Step 1: Starve babies.

Step 2: ?????????

Step 3: Make billions!!!!

This Economic Plan Brought to You by the Democrat Party and The Starve Babies Gnomes.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (iJfKG)

192 The effect on tariffs can only be negative. Simple thinking (very simple) will tell you this.

You're right. Simple thinking gives you simple answers. Unfortunately, life is often complicated.

Tariffs CAN be positive depending on the target, and the duration. If they're a successful prod to make a country (e.g. China) play fair, then that's overall a good thing. Once they've accomplished their goal, they need to be eliminated.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (xCA6C)

193 174 I guess that you have to be Chinese and familiar with the culture to really appreciate it.

Or, maybe it's just really animated well with lots of pretty colors and it keeps the kiddies amazed that way.

That could work.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 08, 2025 11:40 AM (iJfKG)

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That part is important. China is a very different culture from the US in any form. Traditional 1950s Americana or 2020s wokeism is just not that appealing to people who have lived and worked in China their entire lives and know nothing else.

There's a cultural barrier that's hard to overcome, which means that the only successful Hollywood films tend to be big spectacles like Avatar (hugely popular there).

The only movie upcoming that has anything to fear from this threat is Mission Impossible. Fairly popular in China and costing $400 million, meaning at least a billion necessary for profit. An extra $200 million from China could make or break the movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

194 The Russell 2000 is grueling three day potato sack race held each year in Olathe, Kansas.

Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (y9ksN)

195 The Stock market is a dramatic teenage girl.

Daddy Trump if you don't give me my Chinese allowance back I'm going to HOLD BE BREATH UNTIL I DIE!
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Yeah, a big revelation of the last week was that pretty much everyone on the stock exchange (and worldwide) thought Trump was just running his mouth.

They really thought he was just another politician, talking words but not really going to do anything.

And they're really pissed that he didn't do the usual, say nice things, lot's of talk about how everything is going to get fixed and no one will suffer.
But keep doing the same.
E.g., look at the Canadian PM race--both spouting the recycled, tired talk of the last 20 years like they haven't been saying the same thing for 20 years now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (r/ymJ)

196 Watch promos for The Weather Channel.

The Weather Channel sells itself on fear.

The freaking Weather Channel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

(Jump to top of page)

I live in an area that gets some snow every winter. Not 10 feet a year or anything but every winter there’s one or two big storms that will drop 6 inches or more. And then 3 days later it’s all melted and gone.

Yet the local media act as if it’s Florida and nobody has ever seen snow. Days of lead up. Snow is coming everyone!!! Brace yourselves. Only 2 days away. Make sure you’re prepared. Make sure you have gas in the car.

48 hours of fear mongering over weather.

It’s laughable. But it must work I guess it gets them eyeballs.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (Y5yQx)

197 Polar Vortex for the win! Also, there was some weather phenomena which had the word "bomb" appended to it. My aging memory can't quite pull it up. Or, I'll remember about two seconds after I hit "post."
Posted by: blake

The BOMB CYCLONE that leveled Seattle?

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (SoaZG)

198 I have to say 'Severe Weather Siege' is pretty snappy.

Ridiculous, but fun to say.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (bss/y)

199 A judge in Orange County, California, has rejected an effort by the Democrat-run state to block the City of Huntington Beach from enforcing a voter ID law that local voters passed by referendum last year, at least for municipal elections.

Posted by: SMOD at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (RHGPo)

200 Weather Channel favorite. Thunder Snow!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)

201 October 19th, 1987 saw the Dow drop by 508 points. That doesn't sound so bad, but it was 22.6%... the greatest one-day drop in history. The worst day last week isn't even in the top 20 worst days in history.

I remember that day well. Jaw agape. A beautiful, sunny fall day, wondering what the next day would bring.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:05 AM (rj6Yv)

Being a young man of no means, I was doing my level best to beg borrow or steal some money to get in on Monday.
IBM had taken a massive beating and was sure to go back up. Buying would be like stealing. Alas, nobody wanted to give young Jack of no means any cash.
I found out that one person jumped into IBM on Monday morning and did rather well. Bastard!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (FCbAQ)

202 I was in college taking an economics class that semester. The prof went nuts although I’ve forgotten what he said…. But my primary takeaway from that incident is that it was a complete nothing burger…. A month later it was a big nothing. Why? I have no idea but it just didn’t matter in the long run ( or even the medium term)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 08, 2025 11:29 AM (nrfI

And this exactly what would have happened in 1929 if FDR hadn't started interfering. It might have taken a bit more time but certainly not a decade and a world war.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)

203 >>I have to say 'Severe Weather Siege' is pretty snappy.

Ha!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:45 AM (Cki93)

204 139
‘ Oh, the Chinese reaction to Mulan was hilarious.

Japanese designs in the set architecture everywhere because the white people in charge thought it looked good.’

In my dream world, Disney remakes Winnie the Pooh with the Xi -Winnie cartoon blend.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 08, 2025 11:45 AM (jbnUc)

205 The BOMB CYCLONE that leveled Seattle?
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (SoaZG)
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Yeah, that's it. I got the "appended" part wrong, darn it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:45 AM (tT6L1)

206 There's a cultural barrier that's hard to overcome, which means that the only successful Hollywood films tend to be big spectacles like Avatar (hugely popular there).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

Which also goes to your point because Avatar is about the most meaningless fluff imaginable.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)

207 A joke was just bestowed upon on me…if MisHum is around, this is for you!

Why should you not tell a joke while ice fishing?

Because the ice might crack up.

Posted by: Piper at April 08, 2025 11:45 AM (p4NUW)

208 One of the big problems with investing given the 10-12 options provided by a typical employer 401(k) is it's hard to get the FANGs out of your portfolio. There is the international option, but that's only for investors who want a risky asset with returns less than a money market fund.

Posted by: Oglebay at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (MMp6W)

209 206 Which also goes to your point because Avatar is about the most meaningless fluff imaginable.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)

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Super generic hero journey stuff with bright colors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

210 Millennials and Gen-Z wonder why things are so much harder now than before? That's a very large reason why.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)

You mean, it is not due to them being profligate spenders who waste their money on things like new phones and flashy clothes and streaming services instead of dutifully saving their money in 2% interest CDs in an 8% inflationary economy?
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:41 AM (D7oie)

CDs? No one uses CDs anymore - it's streaming music, Boomer

Posted by: Gen Z at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (y9ksN)

211
And this exactly what would have happened in 1929 if FDR hadn't started interfering. It might have taken a bit more time but certainly not a decade and a world war.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew

Slight problem with your analysis. FDR wasn’t president until 1933.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (Y5yQx)

212 Yet the local media act as if it’s Florida and nobody has ever seen snow. Days of lead up. Snow is coming everyone!!! Brace yourselves. Only 2 days away. Make sure you’re prepared. Make sure you have gas in the car.

48 hours of fear mongering over weather.

It’s laughable. But it must work I guess it gets them eyeballs.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (Y5yQx)

The Bread, Milk and Egg cartels bribe them to boost sales!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 08, 2025 11:47 AM (FCbAQ)

213 > 194 The Russell 2000 is grueling three day potato sack race held each year in Olathe, Kansas.
Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 11:43 AM (y9ksN)

I thought it was referring to Jane Russell's chest, but 2000 is an exaggeration. 38D as I recall.

Mmmm... Jane Russell....

https://tinyurl.com/ms5ky9uh

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:47 AM (W5ArC)

214 Thx CBD. Agree that the Dow of isn't reflective of the overall economy, but it is fun watching the leftists lose their minds and then quickly shut up.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 11:47 AM (6TePA)

215 Thunder Snow!
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM

I'm more of a thunder thigh kind of girl, myself.

Posted by: Cora Segal at April 08, 2025 11:47 AM (a3Q+t)

216 214 Thx CBD. Agree that the Dow of isn't reflective of the overall economy, but it is fun watching the leftists lose their minds and then quickly shut up.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 11:47 AM (6TePA)

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"I'm a lifelong Republican who voted for Trump three times, but I'm going to cut off my kids' dick now because he caused me to lose $20,000 in two days, money I can't access for 30 years and will certainly make back in the next month."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

217

We’re not borrowing much money from China at all. Most of the money the FedGov borrows comes from domestic sources. Same for U.S. consumers.

It’s more like “We borrow money from U.S. banks and investors, who are backstopped by the Federal Reserve and who have guaranteed profits.”
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (l3YAf)
>>

From USA Facts:

Over the past 20 years, Japan and China have owned more US Treasurys than any other foreign nation.

Between December 2000 and April 2024, Japan grew from owning $556.3 billion to just over $1.1 trillion. China’s ownership grew from $105.6 billion to $749.0 billion.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (rj6Yv)

218 148 [o]95 Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.
Posted by: one hour sober at April 08, 2025 11:27 AM

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AU REVIOR, SHOSHANA!!!

Posted by: Colonel Landa at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (wzAuc)

219 Sharon Tate was in the secretarial pool. Miss Jane was personal executive secretary to Mr. Drysdale.

Jethro had a sister Jethrine, who was played by Jethro, but voiced by Linda Kaye Henning, daughter of Paul Henning, who created the entire Hooterville World. Linda Kaye was Betty Jo on Petticoat Junction for the entire series run 1963-70. Her tomboy childhood and love for critters during Ozark summers was the basis of the Ellie May Clampett character.

Posted by: Hooterville World Guardian at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (G5+As)

220 Thx CBD. Agree that the Dow of isn't reflective of the overall economy, but it is fun watching the leftists lose their minds and then quickly shut up.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2025 11:47 AM (6TePA)
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Problem is, leftists only stop screeching long enough to find the next thing to lose their minds over.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (tT6L1)

221 >> I thought it was referring to Jane Russell's chest, but 2000 is an exaggeration. 38D as I recall.

2000 milliliters

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (l3YAf)

222 210 Wasting money. Have you seen those commercials offering a clean up service on subscriptions that are unused. "Duh, I have $210 a month in subscriptions for services I forgot about".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:49 AM (gm9Sb)

223 This idiotic trend of giving every weather phenomenon a name needs to stop.

"Yes, it's the third day of Cold Drizzle Ferdinand. Let's go to Rob Retard for a live report."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:49 AM (W5ArC)

224 Good. It needs to be done, said, written.

Who'll suffer the most? Those above Medicaid level, below owning stocks, having 401Ks, etc. The middle, the widows/widowers, those not eligible for ss disability, those just dollars above aid for the size of their families, etc. And maybe why the tax on SS could be ended by the administration.

I saw the financial problems 1st hand in my own family years ago during one of the many cycles of federal mismanagement, but this seems to be different with China in the picture. Almost the 1930s again? IDK. But now or never to fix our broken parts in this wonderful nation for basically wonderful citizens. (I hope this makes some sense.)

Thanks, CBD.

Posted by: L - No nic, adores both Musk and Miller. at April 08, 2025 11:49 AM (NFX2v)

225 The Weather Channel has taken to naming literally every weather event.

Wind event Candice

Cloud event Murray

And so on....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2025 11:49 AM (Q4IgG)

226 Hegseth fires NATO DEI Admiral-ette Shoshana Chatfield for wokeism.
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Isn't it odd just how many of the DEI kommissariat are privileged white women whose only disadvantage in life was being born as ugly as a mud fence?

If I didn't know better, I might think this entire thing is a scam by rent-seeking white women looking for a way around the fact that they are dishwater dull mediocrities who couldn't otherwise lead a one-car funeral.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:49 AM (BI5O2)

227 Is there another Charlize Theron I do not know about?

https://tinyurl.com/5bvsxc9e

For the leg minded 'Rons.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)

The lead role in Monster
https://tinyurl.com/5az6937v

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:50 AM (D7oie)

228 This idiotic trend of giving every weather phenomenon a name needs to stop.

"Yes, it's the third day of Cold Drizzle Ferdinand. Let's go to Rob Retard for a live report."

It's a lot worse because everyone is still recovering from Zephyr Zoe.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:50 AM (xCA6C)

229 Slight problem with your analysis. FDR wasn’t president until 1933.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (Y5yQx)

He still fucked up the recovery.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2025 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

230 And this exactly what would have happened in 1929 if FDR hadn't started interfering. It might have taken a bit more time but certainly not a decade and a world war.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew

Slight problem with your analysis. FDR wasn’t president until 1933.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (Y5yQx)

True…. But Hoover reacted pretty much like FDR would’ve and he was prez at the time

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 08, 2025 11:50 AM (/iXAp)

231 168
‘ Hakeem Jeffries: MAGA Extremists want to starve babies so their billionaire puppet masters can make more money.’

Whose babies?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (jbnUc)

232 Our friends, the Krauts.

Visegrád 24@visegrad24
The trial has started against a 20-year-old American woman who stabbed a 64-y-old Eritrean asylum seeker to death while he was sexually assaulting her at a train station in Kaiserslautern, Germany last summer.
The woman is a civilian contractor working at the Ramstein Air Base

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)

233 The wind cries Mary

Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (LkLld)

234 230 True…. But Hoover reacted pretty much like FDR would’ve and he was prez at the time
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 08, 2025 11:50 AM (/iXAp)

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FDR's run for president in 1932 was entirely themed around the idea that Hoover was doing too much to fix the economy instead of letting it fix itself.

Historical irony.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)

235 The Zoomer mentality is I’ll never afford a house cuz reasons so why save? It’s a self fulfilling prophecy as they will be 40 without anything saved up to buy a house. And then they’ll blame boomers or racism or whatever because they’ll be life long renters.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (Y5yQx)

236 Just wondering how many ships Shoshana Chatfield ran aground or into another ship? Over/under = 2.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 08, 2025 11:33 AM (y2f7I)

Helicopter pilot. Her "at sea" command was a helicopter squadron so I'm guessing the number is 0.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (ExV1e)

237 The Weather Channel has taken to naming literally every weather event.

Wind event Candice

Cloud event Murray

And so on....

Does that mean that a nice day is Unclouded.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (xCA6C)

238 232 Our friends, the Krauts.

Visegrád 24@visegrad24
The trial has started against a 20-year-old American woman who stabbed a 64-y-old Eritrean asylum seeker to death while he was sexually assaulting her at a train station in Kaiserslautern, Germany last summer.
The woman is a civilian contractor working at the Ramstein Air Base
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)

What the actual fuck, Germany?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (bss/y)

239
True…. But Hoover reacted pretty much like FDR would’ve and he was prez at the time
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 08, 2025 11:50 AM (/iXAp)
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Silent Cal, from what I remember, didn't think much of his successor.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (tT6L1)

240 This idiotic trend of giving every weather phenomenon a name needs to stop.

"Yes, it's the third day of Cold Drizzle Ferdinand. Let's go to Rob Retard for a live report."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:49 AM (W5ArC)

Also, the trend of naming every full moon. "It's a Strawberry Blood Mustang Moon!"

Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (y9ksN)

241 Mild Breeze Louise.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

242 Being older than dirt myself, as a kid I heard old timers referring to "Hoover Days". Shanty towns were called "Hoovervilles".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (W5ArC)

243 239 Silent Cal, from what I remember, didn't think much of his successor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (tT6L1)

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If John Coolidge hadn't died, the 1930s would have played out extremely differently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)

244 FDR's run for president in 1932 was entirely themed around the idea that Hoover was doing too much to fix the economy instead of letting it fix itself.

Historical irony.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)

Classic Democrat misdirection (i.e. 'Lying'.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (bss/y)

245 Weather Channel favorite. Thunder Snow!

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:44 AM (gm9Sb)

We've had that this year. Twice!

Posted by: pookysgirl has experienced it all at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (Wt5PA)

246 I used to get a kick out of the local Denver news stations with every snow shower or storm. Deploy reporters to various intersections to film the cars driving by, bring in extra weather staff etc. I get that weather is free, easy content and they have hours of news broadcasting to fill; but it is still eye rolling. Then in the summer it is potential drought or drought monitoring and fire risk.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (CKOCg)

247 As long as the numbers are moving we're not dead yet. If they stop moving we're dead and the numbers don't matter anymore.

Wrong number fixes go on the regular update schedule.
Numbers stopping goes on the emergency fix it now while the company VPs hover over your shoulder.

Posted by: DaveA at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (PMJuY)

248 The problem with our ignorant, biased, and lazy media
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Res ipsa loquitur

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (hj1Oi)

249 If John Coolidge hadn't died, the 1930s would have played out extremely differently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Cal's son, right? Died of blood poisoning?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (tT6L1)

250 They might see cultural value in banning Western movies,
Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:37 AM (D7oie)

I certainly do.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (BI5O2)

251 > Hakeem Jeffries: MAGA Extremists want to starve babies so their billionaire puppet masters can make more money.

Hawk Tuah Jeffries should concentrate on black fathers who don't support their babies.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:54 AM (W5ArC)

252 From USA Facts:

Over the past 20 years, Japan and China have owned more US Treasurys than any other foreign nation.

Between December 2000 and April 2024, Japan grew from owning $556.3 billion to just over $1.1 trillion. China’s ownership grew from $105.6 billion to $749.0 billion.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:48 AM (rj6Yv)

We’re borrowing $2.3 trillion a year, and you’re talking about an increase of $650 billion over nearly a quarter century. You’re proving my point.

Anyway, China’s been selling down its Treasury holdings since 2017. They reached an all-time high of $1.3 trillion in 2011. The whole “We’re borrowing a bunch of money from China” talking point hasn’t been accurate since Trump’s first term.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:54 AM (l3YAf)

253
My favorite: "atmospheric river"
Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:42 AM (Cki93)

It is what we used to call a "chinook" or "pineapple express"

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 11:55 AM (D7oie)

254 235 Zoomer think. I can be just as happy renting this tiny house with a composting toilet and hot plate because it gives me mobility. I'm looking into a yurt.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)

255 What the actual fuck, Germany?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

It's simple. She was supposed to quietly accept getting raped by one of her Moral Betters™ as part of the forward march of progress into a more diverse world.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 08, 2025 11:55 AM (NR6c1)

256 All I know is whether it’s hot in summer or cold in winter, climate change is to blame, and we need to ban cars and airplanes to make it end.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:55 AM (Y5yQx)

257 lso, the trend of naming every full moon. "It's a Strawberry Blood Mustang Moon!"
Posted by: Josephistan at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (y9ksN)

Nothing new under the sun.

How many days are named after gods from antiquity?

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (rj6Yv)

258 "Jobs Americans won't do" are "jobs Americans used to do."

And the people who tell you Americans won't do those jobs are the ones that:
1) raised the prices of housing, food and transportation for decades through inflation
2) outsourced jobs for decades through "free trade" deals
3) stagnated wages for decades; immigration, investing productivity gains into non-growth avenues (stock buybacks), for example.

But this time, this time, when they are telling you that tariffs are bad for Americans, they are telling you the truth .

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (r/ymJ)

259 The woman is a civilian contractor working at the Ramstein Air Base
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)

——————-

What I hope happens is that Trump calls the German chancellor and says that the day she sets foot in a German prison is the day we start moving our military bases to Hungary.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (u73oe)

260 In the mountains, we spell it the Rustle Index and it measures how far away you can hear a mountain lion moving through the dry grass as it stalks you.

Posted by: muldoon at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (/iMjX)

261 This Economic Plan Brought to You by the Democrat Party and The Starve Babies Gnomes.
Posted by: naturalfake

If killing babies is so profitable, why does Planned Parenthood need Federal funding?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz)

262 While I loathe Jeffries and think he's extremely dangerous, I also understand a lot of people in government prefer Hakeem to Trump.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:57 AM (tT6L1)

263 >The Zoomer mentality is I’ll never afford a house cuz reasons so why save? It’s a self fulfilling prophecy as they will be 40 without anything saved up to buy a house. And then they’ll blame boomers or racism or whatever because they’ll be life long renters.

Kindly fuck off.

I would have to spend 8x as much as my parents did to have a house just as large in a neighborhood just as safe.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 11:57 AM (lEahz)

264 > What I hope happens is that Trump calls the German chancellor and says that the day she sets foot in a German prison is the day we start moving our military bases to Hungary.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (u73oe)

The Poles have been pretty solid of late, also.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 11:58 AM (W5ArC)

265 Visegrád 24@visegrad24
The trial has started against a 20-year-old American woman who stabbed a 64-y-old Eritrean asylum seeker to death while he was sexually assaulting her at a train station in Kaiserslautern, Germany last summer.
The woman is a civilian contractor working at the Ramstein Air Base

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)

Don't eff with Americans abroad.

Posted by: pookysgirl refuses to be an easy target at April 08, 2025 11:58 AM (Wt5PA)

266 >>If I didn't know better, I might think this entire thing is a scam by rent-seeking white women looking for a way around the fact that they are dishwater dull mediocrities who couldn't otherwise lead a one-car funeral.

Rush said essentially the same thing about feminism. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 11:58 AM (Cki93)

267 If you want to know what the administration's battle plan is, look for the link to the interview by the 'All In' duo of Howard Lutnick (Cantor Fitzgerald).

It's about an hour and a half but the whole thing is fascinating. He talks about how he was recruited in the first place by Trump, how he has known the man for over 30 years and what he's really like, and then what their plan is to recalibrate the American, and by extension the world, economy.

He says that President Trump told him this is like playing in 1,000 Super Bowls. The greatest Quest and the greatest challenge.

Posted by: Beverly at April 08, 2025 11:58 AM (Epeb0)

268 Buy Gold!!!

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2025 11:59 AM (g47mK)

269 254 235 Zoomer think. I can be just as happy renting this tiny house with a composting toilet and hot plate because it gives me mobility. I'm looking into a yurt.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)

In the early 2010s there was a “millenails are changing X” boom in media. Millenails are changing fashion. And restaurants. And this and that.

One of the things they were touting is how millenails love the freedom of renting. Cuz hey I can like totally move to a hip new city if I want. So yeah man buying real estate is so last decade!!! That’s only for old people.

And I remember thinking you people are fucking imbeciles. This was in 2011,2012 ish when real estate was still dirt cheap after the crash.

How’d that work out kids?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:59 AM (Y5yQx)

270 I'll bet she's being charged for being American. I doubt that they actively hate their own women and want to see them raped and locked in cages as sacrifices to their dusky brethren. They're not British or anything like that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 11:59 AM (BI5O2)

271 249 If John Coolidge hadn't died, the 1930s would have played out extremely differently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Cal's son, right? Died of blood poisoning?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (tT6L1)

--

Cal Jr.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 08, 2025 12:00 PM (wzAuc)

272 Kindly fuck off.

I would have to spend 8x as much as my parents did to have a house just as large in a neighborhood just as safe.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 11:57 AM (lEahz)

lol. ok sure.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:00 PM (Y5yQx)

273 Slight problem with your analysis. FDR wasn’t president until 1933.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (Y5yQx)

Two foundational cultural myths fighting it out

One: FDR was the "good saviour President who was flawed in his understanding but recovered and made us great"

Two: Hoover was the "honest good President who was smeared and betrayed by FDR, and who would have charted us out of danger except the radical Democrat stances of market manipulation and made WWII inevitable"

Both have elements of truth, but forget that Hoover was a technocrat at heart, and FDR was a pathological liar who was devoted to shovelling money into the pockets of his besties

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 12:00 PM (D7oie)

274 > I would have to spend 8x as much as my parents did to have a house just as large in a neighborhood just as safe.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 11:57 AM (lEahz)

You probably make 8x more than your parents. Or more.

When I was a kid, candy bars were five cents. Now they're $1.50. My stepfather made $75/week, and that was far from the lowest paying job.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:01 PM (W5ArC)

275 262
‘ I also understand a lot of people in government prefer Hakeem to Trump.’

Well.When you put it that way…

He still looks like a grifting, race baiting POS.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 08, 2025 12:01 PM (jbnUc)

276 Trump Makes a Huge Move Against Illegal Immigrants

President Trump is done playing games with illegal immigrants who refuse to leave after receiving deportation orders. The administration announced a bold new plan to impose hefty $998 daily fines on migrants who overstay their deportation orders. It's not stopping there, either; it will also seize property from those who don't pay up.

https://is.gd/0J5aiM

Posted by: Archimedes at April 08, 2025 12:02 PM (xCA6C)

277 If John Coolidge hadn't died, the 1930s would have played out extremely differently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Cal's son, right? Died of blood poisoning?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (tT6L1)

--

Cal Jr.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 08, 2025 12:00 PM (wzAuc)
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From bomb cyclone to getting the wrong Coolidge..my batting average in this thread is terrible. I'd give up, but, no true Moron allows a little thing like getting facts wrong keep him from his daily commenting mission.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 12:02 PM (tT6L1)

278 Cal Jr.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

I thought he owned a burger stand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 12:02 PM (L/fGl)

279 You probably make 8x more than your parents. Or more.

When I was a kid, candy bars were five cents. Now they're $1.50. My stepfather made $75/week, and that was far from the lowest paying job.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:01 PM (W5ArC)

Don’t confuse people with facts. As everyone knows in 1977 all houses were free. Boomers graduated high school and with their diplomas was attached a deed to a 3 bedroom ranch home on 1/2 acre lot. I know this because the internet says so.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:03 PM (Y5yQx)

280 >>President Trump is done playing games with illegal immigrants who refuse to leave after receiving deportation orders. The administration announced a bold new plan to impose hefty $998 daily fines on migrants who overstay their deportation orders. It's not stopping there, either; it will also seize property from those who don't pay up.

I voted for this

Posted by: Lizzy at April 08, 2025 12:03 PM (Cki93)

281 CDs? No one uses CDs anymore - it's streaming music, Boomer
Posted by: Gen Z at April 08, 2025 11:46 AM (y9ksN)

I saw a video the other day which said that CDs were making a comeback cuz the yoots were tired of always having to pay for a streaming service that would fuck up their playlists and, occasionally, just remove shit.

Don't know if it's true but it was interesting.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 12:04 PM (ExV1e)

282 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:01 PM (W5ArC)

Real wages have been stagnant for a long, long time, while real estate has increased in value. Not 8x overall, but a lot, and a whole lot in markets like my old one where I grew up (Colorado).

No f'in way I could have afforded a home there - ever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 12:04 PM (BI5O2)

283 I'd give up, but, no true Moron allows a little thing like getting facts wrong keep him from his daily commenting mission.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 12:02 PM (tT6L1)

Damn straight!

Posted by: pookysgirl, viva viva happy chu lu chu at April 08, 2025 12:04 PM (Wt5PA)

284 > You probably make 8x more than your parents. Or more.

Also, don't forget that homes are much, much larger today.

When I was in grad school, I bought a cheap house from the family of an elderly lady who'd just gone into a nursing home. A little over 1,000 square feet. One bathroom.

She and her husband raised four kids in that house.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:04 PM (W5ArC)

285 Cal Jr.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

I thought he owned a burger stand.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 12:02 PM (L/fGl)

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Nah, you’re thinking of Carl Spackler’s son who didn’t want to follow his dad into the world of greens keeping.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2025 12:04 PM (u73oe)

286 Calvin Coolidge's son was playing tennis without socks. The shoes rubbed him wrong, and an infection set in, finally going to blood poisoning. Way before antibiotics.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (gm9Sb)

287 Locking Hollywood movies out of China is not that big a deal, the only films that even attempt a release there are blockbusters and the gross's there are not really that integral to the success of a film.

For instance, Super Mario Bro's made 1.3B world wide, China accounted for 24m of that gross or less than 2% of the total.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (XV/Pl)

288 When I was a kid, candy bars were five cents. Now they're $1.50. My stepfather made $75/week, and that was far from the lowest paying job.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Ralph Kramden cleared $42 a week at the Gotham Bus Company. It never came to light how much Norton brought home from the sewer. However, Trixie and Alice never had to work outside the home.

Posted by: Chauncey Street memories at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)

289 287 Locking Hollywood movies out of China is not that big a deal, the only films that even attempt a release there are blockbusters and the gross's there are not really that integral to the success of a film.

For instance, Super Mario Bro's made 1.3B world wide, China accounted for 24m of that gross or less than 2% of the total.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (XV/Pl)

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The only upcoming release with real issues is Mission Impossible considering the cost. Paramount execs are probably panicking.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

290 PDT is clamping down on the illegals who were told to leave? The usual suspects will recoil in horror while completely hand waving away the billions of dollars in theft illegals have engaged in.

I mean, so what if illegals have been buying stolen ID's, getting SS benefits through fraud and pulling SNAP.

The real problem is telling them to get out and stop freeloading.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 12:06 PM (tT6L1)

291 Anyway, China’s been selling down its Treasury holdings since 2017. They reached an all-time high of $1.3 trillion in 2011. The whole “We’re borrowing a bunch of money from China” talking point hasn’t been accurate since Trump’s first term.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:54 A

china doesn't have to borrow anything from us. We are sending them our money by the boat load in the trade deficit. That money is/was turbo charging their economy while ours sucks. That $400 billion a year trade deficit could make a huge difference in the US economy if that money was spent here on American goods and businesses.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2025 12:06 PM (e5NfL)

292 I was in grad school, I bought a cheap house from the family of an elderly lady who'd just gone into a nursing home. A little over 1,000 square feet. One bathroom.

She and her husband raised four kids in that house.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:04 PM (W5ArC)

What? Kids had to share a room? No playroom? No man cave for the dad? No craft room for mom? Sounds like hell.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:07 PM (Y5yQx)

293 270 I'll bet she's being charged for being American. I doubt that they actively hate their own women and want to see them raped and locked in cages as sacrifices to their dusky brethren. They're not British or anything like that.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Tell me you haven't been to Germany recently without telling me. They do the same, if not worse, than the UK Establishment does. Arrests for self defense? Yes. Arrests for mentioning races in reporting? Yes. Suppression of facts in media? Yes. Except Germany goes farther, openly discussing banning political parties, and having establishment parties shun working with the massively popular AfD.

Posted by: Military Moron at April 08, 2025 12:07 PM (JCZqz)

294 My retirement is based on S&P500.

A better index, one cannot find.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (7NKxb)

295 Anyway, China’s been selling down its Treasury holdings since 2017. They reached an all-time high of $1.3 trillion in 2011. The whole “We’re borrowing a bunch of money from China” talking point hasn’t been accurate since Trump’s first term.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 11:54 AM (l3YAf)

That's only reflects China's US treasury holdings. We're running a massive chronic trade deficit with China, totaling $1.6T over the last five years. That includes not only the treasuries, but is also financed by the Fed's printing presses.

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (rj6Yv)

296 > However, Trixie and Alice never had to work outside the home.

Yes, it was considered a shameful sign of poverty if the wife had to work. The only exception was if the paterfamilias was off killing Krauts or Nips or some such.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (W5ArC)

297 294 My retirement is based on S&P500.

A better index, one cannot find.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (7NKxb)

========

The Pelosi index hedged with the anti-Cramer index > S&P500.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)

298 My retirement is based on S&P500.

A better index, one cannot find.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (7NKxb)

The Nancy Pelosi Portfolio Index!

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2025 12:09 PM (g47mK)

299 Sean Hannity grew up in a little house in Levittown, LI. One bathroom. Four older sisters.

Posted by: Gotta Go! at April 08, 2025 12:09 PM (G5+As)

300 288 When I was a kid, candy bars were five cents. Now they're $1.50. My stepfather made $75/week, and that was far from the lowest paying job.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Ralph Kramden cleared $42 a week at the Gotham Bus Company. It never came to light how much Norton brought home from the sewer. However, Trixie and Alice never had to work outside the home.
Posted by: Chauncey Street memories at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)

--

C.C. "Buddy" Baxter cleared $92.47 a week working for a big company in NYC and lived in a Manhattan apartment that he time-shared with his whoring colleagues.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 08, 2025 12:09 PM (wzAuc)

301 LOL ! TJM ! you are onto something!

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2025 12:09 PM (g47mK)

302 @289

>>The only upcoming release with real issues is Mission Impossible considering the cost. Paramount execs are probably panicking.

China is only important to a marginal film like the Mission Impossible films, and yeah, Dead Reckoning made 48m in China and that only matters because it was a bomb every where else.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 12:10 PM (XV/Pl)

303 In the early 2010s there was a “millenails are changing X” boom in media. Millenails are changing fashion. And restaurants. And this and that.

One of the things they were touting is how millenails love the freedom of renting. Cuz hey I can like totally move to a hip new city if I want. So yeah man buying real estate is so last decade!!! That’s only for old people.

***

You mean when the media was telling us about the miracles of “staycations” and “funemployment”? Maybe the pressitutes were just paper overing the terrible Obama economy by pretending these things were fashionable choices and not the result of an ongoing financial crisis? Or naw?

Do you think every 20-something had tens of thousands to put down on a new house during the Great Recession? Do you just believe everything the media says?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 12:10 PM (l3YAf)

304 302 China is only important to a marginal film like the Mission Impossible films, and yeah, Dead Reckoning made 48m in China and that only matters because it was a bomb every where else.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 12:10 PM (XV/Pl)

======

Paramount probably expects MI to make at least $100 million in China. Maybe $200. Desperate hope.

Which, for a film that needs a billion to break even means a lot.

The industry as a whole has moved on, but China still represents some marginal help in covering massive costs for huge films.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)

305 The only upcoming release with real issues is Mission Impossible considering the cost. Paramount execs are probably panicking.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, looking for laughs with Ivan Reitman at April 08, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

I was of the belief Chi Nah doesn't care much for our weird cartoon shit, but loves them some stuff getting blowed up.

Like, I don't know, but I'm going to pretend it's true even if it's not, that Michael Bay is considered a genius of Cinema in Chi Nah.

Him and Steven Segal.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 12:11 PM (dGCAG)

306 Atmospheric river = Jet stream

Posted by: Old Blue misses Mrs Old Blue at April 08, 2025 12:11 PM (X6YhY)

307 MAGA Extremists want to starve babies so their billionaire puppet masters can make more money.

*********

They've played the Politics of Guilt and Pity card nearly to death. It's losing its impact.

Step 1: PITY- Select a cute or innocent group (for the children, baby seals, sea turtles, peasants seeking a better life, oppressed minority, the homeless) and shout that you should pity them because whatever policy they are opposing harms the chosen group.

Step 2: GUILT- If you don't immediately jump on the pity bandwagon, play on guilt by accusing you of being cruel, heartless. Or just call you RACIST.

Decent people generally have empathy for those less fortunate than they are and certainly don't want to be thought of as mean. But if you fall into that trap, they have you by the short hairs and have hobbled you.

Why do you love millionaires and billionaires more than starving babies?

Posted by: muldoon at April 08, 2025 12:11 PM (/iMjX)

308 What I hope happens is that Trump calls the German chancellor and says that the day she sets foot in a German prison is the day we start moving our military bases to Hungary.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2025 11:56 AM (u73oe)

Why do we need military bases in Europe?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 12:12 PM (ExV1e)

309 Progressives and children.

Liberal white lady says 4 of her 7 kids are queer and the other 3 are dead to her “because they don’t agree with my activism”

https://shorturl.at/mZZPc

-
They can express their sexuality however they choose so long as it's fag.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 12:12 PM (L/fGl)

310
Do you think every 20-something had tens of thousands to put down on a new house during the Great Recession? Do you just believe everything the media says?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 12:10 PM (l3YAf)

Not that hard to save a few grand. That’s my point. But it’s easier to go to Starbucks every morning and whine about boomers.

In that time frame there was so much money available for first time buyers. Remember the $8k freebies from the govt? Plenty of 3% down mortgages available too. With just a little effort one could have bought a house then.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:12 PM (Y5yQx)

311 > 299 Sean Hannity grew up in a little house in Levittown, LI. One bathroom. Four older sisters.
Posted by: Gotta Go! at April 08, 2025 12:09 PM (G5+As)

I'll bet he has excellent bladder control to this day.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:12 PM (W5ArC)

312 Does anyone honestly believe the economic outlook for younger generations is anything like as bright as it was for Boomers?

That's not a knock on them - America was just a much more prosperous place then.

I get that some boomers hate millennials as much as vice versa, but if that belief were true, you wouldn't be looking at a transformative figure like Trump right now. We'd still be doing the same old thing that led to our roaring success.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 08, 2025 12:13 PM (BI5O2)

313 Atmospheric river = Jet stream >> Sh!t Creek

Posted by: muldoon at April 08, 2025 12:13 PM (/iMjX)

314 I was surprised dead reckoning did so poorly and barbie so well, that was the only film I paid to see that year,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 12:14 PM (bXbFr)

315 And throughout this, GenX is all "whatever...."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 12:14 PM (Oq5OE)

316 309
‘ Liberal white lady says 4 of her 7 kids are queer and the other 3 are dead to her “because they don’t agree with my activism”’

Named Karen. Of course.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 08, 2025 12:14 PM (jbnUc)

317 > Why do you love millionaires and billionaires more than starving babies?
Posted by: muldoon at April 08, 2025 12:11 PM (/iMjX)

Anyone else notice that Bernie Sanders has dropped his "millionaires and billionaires" catchphrase, replacing it with just "billionaires"?

I'm sure that has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Bernie is himself a multimillionaire. Just a coincidence, comrades!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:14 PM (W5ArC)

318 Sean Hannity grew up in a little house in Levittown, LI. One bathroom. Four older sisters.
Posted by: Gotta Go! at April 08, 2025 12:09 PM (G5+As)
===================
So he got to take a shower, finally, once he was in college? And he won't let anyone else talk because he wasn't allowed to talk at all until after his shower?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 12:15 PM (Ioqbq)

319 Biggest 'duh' ever

@ABC 5m
The Supreme Court said the Trump administration can move forward with the termination of 16,000 probationary federal workers across six agencies and departments, rescinding a lower court order.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 08, 2025 12:15 PM (mlg/3)

320 VA backed mortgages are zero down. Just sayin.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2025 12:15 PM (u73oe)

321 I was surprised dead reckoning did so poorly and barbie so well, that was the only film I paid to see that year,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 12:14 PM (bXbFr)

I tried watching it, got about 10 minutes in, then looked at the run time... something well over 2 hours!

No thanks. Turned it off.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 12:15 PM (dGCAG)

322 >Liberal white lady says 4 of her 7 kids are queer and the other 3 are dead to her “because they don’t agree with my activism”

I think I'd rather have Joan Crawford as my mother than this harridan.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (rJ48h)

323 Why do you love millionaires and billionaires more than starving babies?

A starving baby never gave me a job.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (N+1yW)

324 The whole country is infected with mental illness. I am inclined to think it the work of Satan, as nothing else seems to make sense.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (pohLc)

325 So he got to take a shower, finally, once he was in college? And he won't let anyone else talk because he wasn't allowed to talk at all until after his shower?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 12:15 PM (Ioqbq)

LOL

Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (rj6Yv)

326 @304

>>The industry as a whole has moved on, but China still represents some marginal help in covering massive costs for huge films.

Money is money, but I have to believe that the the effort and resources to release a film in China is not worth the squeeze, especially for marginal films and if Paramount thinks Final Reckoning is going to make over 100m in China, good luck with that nonsense.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (XV/Pl)

327 skydance is a joint venture with alibaba's parent company,

the series has been surprisingly prescient re event in the deep state, specially no 2 and 3, but did you think there were evil and treacherous spies like this iteration of phelps before,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (bXbFr)

328 I'll bet she's being charged for being American. I doubt that they actively hate their own women and want to see them raped and locked in cages as sacrifices to their dusky brethren. They're not British or anything like that.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

That is probably the icing on the cake for the Germans however, they do charge, jail, and fine Germans for daring to point out the inconvenient truths about the migrant populations in GE.

Marie Therese-Kaiser was charged and fined for posting a chart of crime statistics of migrants. "Afghans and Africans are proportionally more than 40x - 70x more involved in gang rapes than Germans". Free speech is dead in Germany.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (oiNtH)

329 311
‘I'll bet he has excellent bladder control to this day.’

I peed out the window like a great American

Posted by: Sean Hannity at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (jbnUc)

330 In case anyone is wondering...

A hot fudge sundae flavored Pop Tart is some weird ass shit.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 08, 2025 12:17 PM (Oq5OE)

331 Fact: China's Manufacturing Dominance
China's lead has widened since then. In 2023, China's manufacturing value-added reached $4.66 trillion, which was 29 percent of the global total, and more than the next four largest manufacturing economies combined (the United States, Japan, Germany, and India).

Discussed ^ on a CNBC interview this AM.

Posted by: L - No nic, adores both Musk and Miller. at April 08, 2025 12:17 PM (NFX2v)

332 Why do you love millionaires and billionaires more than starving babies?
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A starving baby never gave me a job.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (N+1yW)

And it still has the chance to grow up to be Hitler.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2025 12:18 PM (dGCAG)

333 312 Does anyone honestly believe the economic outlook for younger generations is anything like as bright as it was for Boomers?

—

I’m not a boomer, solid GenX. Bought my first house at 28. I wasn’t really anyone special plenty of people my age did the same thing. First house I bought was $300k. That house today is $750k The job I had back then? With similar level of experience pays about twice what it paid then.

So yes income to home price is a little worse for someone today. But still doable.

Which is why I roll my eyes at the constant woe be me from today’s yuutes.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:18 PM (Y5yQx)

334 the mcguffins are a little forced I must admit, but they have done the bond beats then the daniel craig era,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at April 08, 2025 12:18 PM (bXbFr)

335 > I think I'd rather have Joan Crawford as my mother than this harridan.
Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (rJ48h)

Yep. On the whole, I'd choose being beaten with a wire coat hanger over having my peen cut off any day.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:18 PM (W5ArC)

336
We'll discuss more AoS Animal fun facts, today, because Nature is fun!

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 08, 2025 12:18 PM (Ks1zr)

337 322 >Liberal white lady says 4 of her 7 kids are queer and the other 3 are dead to her “because they don’t agree with my activism”

I think I'd rather have Joan Crawford as my mother than this harridan.
Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (rJ48h)

Odd that she had 7 kids.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (bss/y)

338 >Liberal white lady says 4 of her 7 kids are queer and the other 3 are dead to her “because they don’t agree with my activism”

Those 3 kids should count themselves lucky that this sham of a "mom" has disowned them. They have a chance for a healthy, happy, life now.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (oiNtH)

339 That's only reflects China's US treasury holdings. We're running a massive chronic trade deficit with China, totaling $1.6T over the last five years. That includes not only the treasuries, but is also financed by the Fed's printing presses.
Posted by: mrp at April 08, 2025 12:08 PM (rj6Yv)

True, our trade deficits are a form of borrowing, although not usually seen as such. So Vance’s original statement can be made to work:

We’re borrowing from US banks and the Federal Reserve, to buy cheap imports from the rest of the world, including China, which is also a form of borrowing because we’re giving debt instruments (Dollars) in exchange for goods with a future promise to redeem those debt instruments for goods or services. And a lot of that trade deficit “borrowing” is from workers in the rest of the world (not peasants).

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (l3YAf)

340 But it’s easier to go to Starbucks every morning and whine about boomers.

Go to Starbucks? What kind of loser do you think I am. I buy-now-pay-later doordash to go to Starbucks for me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (ExV1e)

341 Nood. Stonks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (bss/y)

342 Nood. Stock market.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 12:20 PM (ExV1e)

343 O' air river that ol' air river
He must know somethin' but don't say nothin'
He just keeps rollin'
He keeps on rollin' along

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 12:20 PM (L/fGl)

344 Odd that she had 7 kids.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (bss/y)

Likely by 7 different fathers.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 08, 2025 12:20 PM (pohLc)

345 Go to Starbucks? What kind of loser do you think I am. I buy-now-pay-later doordash to go to Starbucks for me.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 08, 2025 12:19 PM (ExV1e)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 08, 2025 12:20 PM (bss/y)

346 I've enjoyed the previous MI movies for what they are.... lots of STUFF!!! BLOWS!!! UP!!! and dudes hanging from helicopters by their pinky toes. Shakespeare? No. Fun to watch? Yes.

I'll probably watch this one too, when it comes on streaming.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:20 PM (W5ArC)

347 Macro and microeconomics aside, I just finished the last banana. What am I going to do now?

Posted by: No Skin In The Game at April 08, 2025 12:20 PM (G5+As)

348 > lots of STUFF!!! BLOWS!!! UP!!! and dudes hanging from helicopters by their pinky toes

Oh, and smokin' wimmenz. Mustn't forget them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 08, 2025 12:21 PM (W5ArC)

349 Jacobin, “Stop the Oligarchs” Is a Winning Message, By
Liza Featherstone, 04/04/2025

"Americans do not like billionaires throwing their endless money around to buy off whoever and whatever they want. The anti-oligarch messaging pushed by Bernie Sanders against the Trump administration has deep resonance, and we need more of it." More.

Posted by: L - No nic, adores both Musk and Miller. at April 08, 2025 12:21 PM (NFX2v)

350 >>I was surprised dead reckoning did so poorly

Me too!

Posted by: Amelia Earhart at April 08, 2025 12:21 PM (Y1sOo)

351 I buy-now-pay-later doordash to go to Starbucks for me.

🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:21 PM (Y5yQx)

352 Anyone else on this thread think that I earn 8x what my parents earn? Lord I didn't realize that saving was so easy.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 12:22 PM (lEahz)

353
Anyone else notice that Bernie Sanders has dropped his "millionaires and billionaires" catchphrase, replacing it with just "billionaires"?

I'm sure that has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Bernie is himself a multimillionaire. Just a coincidence, comrades!
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

He's a sly one, that old lazy socialist!

His mentally detuned audience won't notice that "millionaires" slid beneath his verbal waves, but those of us with functioning cognitive skills can smell his hypocrisy from miles away.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at April 08, 2025 12:23 PM (xG4kz)

354 Tariff complainers miss one simple fact: Two of our biggest targets, China and Germany, are export economies that were on the brink of recession even before PDJT started the tariff battle. To save their own skin they need to export more. And in both cases, America is their largest target market. So, as curreny trader and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said of China today, China is playing "a losing hand":

“What do we lose by the Chinese raising tariffs on us? We export one-fifth to them of what they export to us, so that is a losing hand for them,” he said.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 12:23 PM (Ioqbq)

355 Real wages have been stagnant for a long, long time, while real estate has increased in value.
---
Adjusted for inflation:
Average wages have only gone up 2x since the 60's.
Average home prices for an average house have gone up 4x in the same time.

Those are the facts.

Most estimates are that we are 5 million housing units short of what is needed.

None of the financial advice of "what worked for you," even from 10 years ago, will fix that.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 08, 2025 12:23 PM (r/ymJ)

356 I think I'd rather have Joan Crawford as my mother than this harridan.
Posted by: mr tmz at April 08, 2025 12:16 PM (rJ48h)

***

I'd rather be raised by wolves

Posted by: Life of Wryly at April 08, 2025 12:23 PM (1FWWQ)

357 Silent Cal, from what I remember, didn't think much of his successor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 08, 2025 11:52 AM (tT6L1)

Hoover was a pretty good mining engineer, and an all around good guy with actual leadership skills. Besides getting a scholarship from Stanford for "smart but impoverished students" translating Agricola's De Re Metalica with his wife Lou, he was also senior civilian during the siege of the mining and trade center in China during the Boxer Rebellion - and saving most of the civilians there by his leadership, he was also a middling politician.
He did have flaws, which may have come from his background and his faith. He was one of the few Presidents who grew up hoeing onion fields.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)

358 Res ipsa loquitur
Posted by: Huck Follywood at April 08, 2025 11:53 AM (hj1Oi)

"the cows are talking to themselves"

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 12:25 PM (D7oie)

359 Nood. Stocks.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 08, 2025 12:25 PM (4M29A)

360 Kindly fuck off.
I would have to spend 8x as much as my parents did to have a house just as large in a neighborhood just as safe.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 08, 2025 11:57 AM (lEahz)

Getting traction when young is tough for every generation.
I bought a small house in a sketchy neighborhood to get started.
Used that equity to move up years later.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 08, 2025 12:25 PM (FCbAQ)

361 We need them to pick cotton.

Jasmine Crockett says immigrants can't leave because "we done picking cotton"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at April 08, 2025 12:25 PM (L/fGl)

362 Fact: China's Manufacturing Dominance
China's lead has widened since then. In 2023, China's manufacturing value-added reached $4.66 trillion, which was 29 percent of the global total, and more than the next four largest manufacturing economies combined (the United States, Japan, Germany, and India).

Discussed ^ on a CNBC interview this AM.
Posted by: L - No nic,

Discussed this morning on Newsmax with Gordon Chang, Lawyer and political commentator on China. He believes that China is in deep trouble and that Trump holds all the cards over them regarding tariffs. He went on further on how the Communist Chinese party is turning on each other with the military side running against the administrative side while their economy and other parts of their society are falling further underwater. Interesting interview.

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2025 12:26 PM (oiNtH)

363 Liberal white lady says 4 of her 7 kids are queer and the other 3 are dead to her “because they don’t agree with my activism”

Hopefully YOU are dead to THEM, bitch.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 08, 2025 12:27 PM (mH6SG)

364 lol. ok sure.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 08, 2025 12:00 PM (Y5yQx)

when you stop clipping coupons and cashing your reverse mortgage checks, why don't you figure the average 20- year old's income, then figure food, rent, transport, insurance, clothing and dental care and get back on this question?

And since you think austerity is the key here, tell me how you start a family when the best housing you can get is renting someone's back bedroom.

Posted by: Kindltot - eight furry chickens in white wine at April 08, 2025 12:31 PM (D7oie)

365 Most estimates are that we are 5 million housing units short of what is needed.

None of the financial advice of "what worked for you," even from 10 years ago, will fix that.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Deport twenty to thirty million illegal aliens should do it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 08, 2025 12:32 PM (H/2Ua)

366 The thing about the Dow, Nasdag and S & P drop is that liberals should be celebrating. All my life, I've heard about record corporate profits and greedy Wall Street firms. So if they all take a big shellacking shouldn't that make the Left happy? Instead, they are pretending they care about 401Ks now. As always, anything that happens is about power and not any kind of principle. What can get them the most play about a drop in the market? Not greedy corporations taking a bath but Trump and his tariffs ruining the economy.

Posted by: Lex at April 08, 2025 12:34 PM (l5xX+)

367 Discussed this morning on Newsmax with Gordon Chang, Lawyer and political commentator on China. He believes that China is in deep trouble and that Trump holds all the cards over them regarding tariffs.

Chang has been predicting the imminent collapse of China for decades.

I wish he was right, but thus far he has been completely wrong.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 12:43 PM (xTIDn)

368 Britain is now considering conscription to prepare for the Great War With Putin.

Muslim migrants would be exempt, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2025 12:46 PM (xTIDn)

369 Test

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 01:22 PM (3yYgU)

370 Again

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2025 01:26 PM (ypFCm)

371 The single biggest - and most un-recognized problem in America is the intelligence of those providing us information. Teachers are the lowest-IQ cohort in any college or university; journalists are the 2nd-lowest. The idea we can have a well-educated franchise when educated by idiots and informed by morons is pure fantasy.

Posted by: Alexander Scipio at April 08, 2025 01:56 PM (029Oi)

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