An FBI Employee Confirmed the Authenticity of the Hunter Biden Laptop in October 2020.<br>The FBI Immediately Slapped a Gag Order on the Entire Matter to Keep Anyone from Repeating the Confirmation to Anyone Else.

An FBI Employee Confirmed the Authenticity of the Hunter Biden Laptop in October 2020.
The FBI Immediately Slapped a Gag Order on the Entire Matter to Keep Anyone from Repeating the Confirmation to Anyone Else.

This isn't the FBI trying to remain non-partisan. Remember, they organized a "tabletop simulation" which coached the media on how to suppress a "hypothetical" story about Hunter Biden's laptop being revealed to the public by, supposedly, Russian hackers. The FBI really set up this "hypothetical" wargame to coach the media to be prepared for this eventuality and censor the story when it came out.

The gag order was imposed because the FBI was running a psyop on the country pretending this laptop, which they'd already confirmed was real, was a Russian fake, and they didn't want any of their employees admitting it was all real.

Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger
The FBI said it didn't interfere in the 2020 election, but it did. It tricked Twitter & Facebook into censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story. Now, newly released chat messages show the FBI issued a "gag order" after an employee accidentally confirmed the laptop's authenticity.

Catherine Herridge
@C__Herridge
BREAKING: FBI Imposed "Gag Order" About Hunter Biden Laptop After Employee Accidentally Confirmed Its Authenticity To Twitter
Newly released internal FBI chat messages reveal senior bureau officials actively shutting down discussion of the laptop's credibility days before the 2020 Presidential election
This is a CatherineHerridgeReports @C__Herridge / Public @Shellenberger Joint Investigation
An FBI official admitted to House investigators that an FBI employee had inadvertently confirmed the authenticity of Hunter Biden's laptop to Twitter on a conference call the morning of October 14, 2020, the day the New York Post published a story about it.
"I recall that when the question came up, an intelligence analyst assigned to the Criminal Investigative Division said something to the effect of, 'Yes, the laptop is real'," the then Russia unit chief testified in a closed door transcribed interview.
"I believe it was an (Office of General Counsel) attorney assigned to the (Foreign Influence Task Force) stepped in and said, 'We will not comment further on this topic.'"
For the first time, and with a change of administration, the FBI has now turned over to GOP House investigators the internal chat messages that show Bureau leadership actively silenced its employees.
The FBI, which had a special task force to counter foreign election interference, could have set the record straight by confirming the laptop was real and the subject of an ongoing criminal probe. Instead, FBI leadership allowed the false narrative about the laptop to gain momentum.
The FBI provided the chat messages to congressional investigators with heavy redactions.
Some of the redactions on the chats are marked "OGC AGC," which appears to mean that they were made by the FBI's Office of General Counsel and Associate General Counsel.
An individual whose name is blacked out, tells Elvis M. Chan, the San Francisco-based FBI special agent tasked with interacting with social media companies, there was a "gag order" on discussion of Hunter Biden's laptop. In a separate exchange, Chan is told "official response no commen(t)."
In the chat, the FBI officials showed awareness that the laptop may have contained evidence of criminal activity.
Asked Chan, "actually what kind of case is the laptop thing? corruption? campaign financing?"
Another FBI employee responds, "CLOSE HOLD --" after which the response is redacted.
To which Chan responds, "oh crap" appearing to underscore the serious nature of the probe, which included felony tax charges. Chan adds, "ok. It ends here".
In the same conversation, Chan is asked if "Anyone discussing that NYPost article on the Biden's?" Chan responds, "yes we are. c d confirmed an active investigation. No further comment." "C D" is likely shorthand for the FBI's Criminal Division.
Said another FBI employee, whose name was redacted by the Bureau, "please do not discuss biden matter."
We asked for a response from the bureau and the FBI employees identified in the chat messages. An FBI spokesman declined to comment.
We go in-depth on the chat messages for subscribers!

Thanks to @ComradeArthur.

BREAKING: FBI Imposed “Gag Order” About Hunter Biden Laptop After Employee Accidentally Confirmed Its Authenticity To Twitter

Newly released internal FBI chat messages reveal senior bureau officials actively shutting down discussion of the laptop’s credibility days before the… pic.twitter.com/PzaCUG6B7L
— Catherine Herridge (@C__Herridge) April 1, 2025

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1 Shocked.

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 01, 2025 12:30 PM (6TlG5)

2 Democracy was saved!

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 12:30 PM (neOeF)

3 I’ll nood

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 01, 2025 12:30 PM (6TlG5)

4 The FBI Immediately Slapped a Gag Order on the Entire Matter to Keep Anyone from Re-Confirming its Authenticity.

Like ya do.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2025 12:30 PM (ExV1e)

5 unpossible! our ham and eggers!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 12:30 PM (ecJ7k)

6 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2025 12:31 PM (S4F9n)

7 Wake me when the arrests happen.

Posted by: Cray Cray at April 01, 2025 12:31 PM (8X2Fu)

8 But how will I know what to think if I don't get given Key Takeaways or Why It Matters?

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 12:31 PM (neOeF)

9 The Eff Bee Eye is a Deep State organization

And wondering how these Leftist Judges, often foreigners, from some Leftist area has standing to run the country?

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2025 12:32 PM (S4F9n)

10 I'm awaiting the EO that does away with the FBI, similar to the Department of Education.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 01, 2025 12:33 PM (Vyll1)

11 Sean hannity hardest hit.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2025 12:33 PM (MGB5H)

12 NAME.
THEM.
ALL.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 01, 2025 12:33 PM (wtvvX)

13
LEAVE HUNTER ALONE!

You bastards drove him all the way to South Africa, where he can't be the brilliant advisor Joey and the Doctor need.

Betcha the beachside coke scene there is wild, though.

Posted by: Auspex at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (j4U/Z)

14
So, what?

Posted by: Person who never thinks anything will happen at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (dg+HA)

15 And it never occurred to the agent to be a whistleblower over this. Shocker.

Posted by: NR Pax at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (NR6c1)

16 Sean Hannity told me that 99% of the Bureau are straight-shooters who carry a lunchbox to work.

Posted by: Hammond Eggers at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (G5+As)

17 Thank the Lord we have these brave men and women up on that wall safeguarding Our Precious Democracy.

Posted by: ballistic at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (fcWjU)

18 it was just a couple rogue agents in Cincinnati.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (Cus5s)

19 And wondering how these Leftist Judges, often foreigners, from some Leftist area has standing to run the country?
Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2025 12:32 PM (S4F9n)

The Senate, in between drug/sex/murder parties, confirmed them to the bench.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2025 12:34 PM (ExV1e)

20 Some people did something.

Mistakes were made.

We promise to do better.

If I am asked if I regret my Trump vote, shit like this is why I would say 'yes.' These 'FBI leadership' bastards should have been arrested and tossed into Gitmo at 12.01pm on January 20. Instead, they're guilty as sin and free as a bird, to quote yet another unhung traitor.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (Q0kLU)

21 12 NAME.
THEM.
ALL.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 01, 2025 12:33 PM

You spelt 'hang' wrong

Posted by: Eb Dawson at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (Y1sOo)

22 Somebody needs to prosecute, if such a thing is possible, Chris 'Good Hair' Wray for this crap.

Posted by: Sphynx at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (P6qMv)

23 when do we close it?

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (Pv3Rg)

24 I'm sure it was just Todd that messed up.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (MGB5H)

25 Hopefully all those names under the marker are "former" FBI agents. Probably ought to fire every one of their cubicle mates and training officers too.,

Posted by: DaveA at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (FhXTo)

26 Are the OGC and AGC offices emptied out of their occupants? Has their security clearances been revoked? Lying to Congress?

Or is this going to be another - "OK, we F***ed up. We'll "never" do it again. Sorry.". Then everyone goes their own way safe in their jobs, pensions, etc.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (2AW7/)

27 24 I'm sure it was just Todd that messed up.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (MGB5H)

======

Fucking Todd.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:35 PM (GBKbO)

28 I've heard rumblings that Kash is not so much talking about going after rogue agents anymore, and focusing on ham n' egg tasks like pursuing criminals in the real world.

Which, sure, do that, but what about going after these people? How many of them are still in the building, Kash?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (dGCAG)

29 10 I'm awaiting the EO that does away with the FBI, similar to the Department of Education.

this

although... give them notice and suddenly lots of unexpected "suicides"

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (Pv3Rg)

30 8 But how will I know what to think if I don't get given Key Takeaways or Why It Matters?

And what does Tay Tay think?

Posted by: Your neighborhood AWFL at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (dg+HA)

31 This would have been election interference, but thank Gaia that no one had standing to bring such a claim.

Posted by: Five Black Robed Ninnies at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (wqVgW)

32 I'm waiting for Long Shanks Comey to get his comeuppance.

Posted by: Sphynx at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (P6qMv)

33 but there are SO MANY good agents at the FBI.

... somewhere, I'm sure of it.

It's not like they are all compromised cowards... right?....

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (aPBRN)

34 The FBI cannot be saved. The FBI is just an evil organization. It needs to be thoroughly destroyed and never allowed to take root again. Reality of this happening, zero percent.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 01, 2025 12:37 PM (gllTv)

35 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 12:37 PM (l3YAf)

36 Must be fun to go around slapping people with gag orders. Almost as much fun as poking them with a pointed stick.

Posted by: Service With a Smirk! at April 01, 2025 12:37 PM (G5+As)

37 It's a real contest about which TLA is the most corrupt and evil, FBI is putting up some serious numbers to take the lead here.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at April 01, 2025 12:37 PM (xcxpd)

38 I've heard rumblings that Kash is not so much talking about going after rogue agents anymore, and focusing on ham n' egg tasks like pursuing criminals in the real world.

'Rumblings' aren't facts, but that development wouldn't surprise me at all. Except for Homan (and even he's gone weak-sister), all this tough talk from the administration has been just that. Talk.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (Q0kLU)

39 IF some people get fired over this it would be an epic fail by the evil Deep State. It already gave us Trump 2024, which is way better than Trump 2020 would have been.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (yT7Wa)

40 Let me know when these people go to prison.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (WPL6O)

41 We asked for a response from the bureau and the FBI employees identified in the chat messages. An FBI spokesman declined to comment.

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Meet your new FBI, same as the old FBI.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (Vh9CX)

42 I still believe that Trump having 2020 stolen was the best thing for the country.

He'd be gone by now. Instead, he had four years to plan, prepare, and allow the nation to see just how awful the left is.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (av5u4)

43

Golly, why would they do this?

Was this before or after that little shitbag Stork was in front of Congress acting like a demon?

The government exists for itself, doesn't it.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (et1vG)

44 11 Sean hannity hardest hit.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2025 12:33 PM (MGB5H)

Fifty-three patriotic FBI ham n' eggers, each one a Great American, each told me three years ago they were blocked from filing whistle-blower reports about this travesty of justice, by a senior FBI political appointee! Watch my Fox News Show tonight at 9 PM Eastern to hear the rest of this explosive story!

Posted by: Sean Hannity at April 01, 2025 12:39 PM (aBgBM)

45 32 I'm waiting for Long Shanks Comey to get his comeuppance.
Posted by: Sphynx

You'll never find me. Bought some really thick drapes.

Posted by: James Comey, Unemployed at April 01, 2025 12:39 PM (G5+As)

46 I do not regret my vote for Trump.
What would we have now without him?

Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 01, 2025 12:39 PM (P4Pk9)

47 The FBI cannot be saved. The FBI is just an evil organization. It needs to be thoroughly destroyed and never allowed to take root again. Reality of this happening, zero percent.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 01, 2025 12:37 PM (gllTv)

Being the eternal cynic I am, I started with the assumption Trump wasn't going to be able to do a lot of what he said he would.

I'm not so much disappointed as I am... tired of it all.

I don't regret voting for the guy, but yeah.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (dGCAG)

48 Surely this has to be a mistake!

--Efram Zimbalist, Jr

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (G3pj2)

49 He'd be gone by now. Instead, he had four years to plan, prepare, and allow the nation to see just how awful the left is.

and for the power elite - crazy medical supplements or no - to get that much older and weaker.

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (Pv3Rg)

50 In what way is the FBI morally superior to the KGB?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (jM63s)

51 I have always admired Catherine Herridge. The last and possibly only investigative reporter in the past 20yrs.

I used to "trust" the EffinBeeEye like I did the CDC. How things have changed.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (6PCLE)

52 Oh look! They are still hiding stuff. Look at how much is still redacted.

Posted by: Pj at April 01, 2025 12:41 PM (DyvBy)

53 I've heard rumblings that Kash is not so much talking about going after rogue agents anymore, and focusing on ham n' egg tasks like pursuing criminals in the real world.

Which, sure, do that, but what about going after these people? How many of them are still in the building, Kash?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 12:36 PM (dGCAG)

Spoiler alert: all of them, and nothing will happen to them.

See, they were just following processes and orders.

Which, depending on the scenario, is all the excuse you need.

Mistakes were made, processes will be changed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:41 PM (uCjyK)

54
So now that the NYT has published the deep state Russia expose', does the Trump-is-a-Russian-Agent Laptop Fibbers get to keep their jobs?

No hard feelings, Mr. Preznit, sir?

Posted by: Auspex at April 01, 2025 12:41 PM (j4U/Z)

55 In what way is the FBI morally superior to the KGB?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (jM63s)

The KGB was Russian, man. Russian.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2025 12:41 PM (ExV1e)

56 *I used to "trust" the EffinBeeEye like I did the CDC.*

Wear a mask. Wear two masks!

Posted by: Flashback to 2021 at April 01, 2025 12:42 PM (dg+HA)

57 Rogue FBI agents are those who do the right thing, aren't they?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 01, 2025 12:42 PM (jM63s)

58 This fits with how they treated the computer store operator when they secured the hard drive from him. The store owner told the two FBI field agents who showed up that based on what was on the computer, he was a little concerned for his safety.

They FBI agent told him, "If you don't say anything, you have nothing to worry about."

Posted by: Orson at April 01, 2025 12:42 PM (dIske)

59 Being the eternal cynic I am, I started with the assumption Trump wasn't going to be able to do a lot of what he said he would.

I'm not so much disappointed as I am... tired of it all.

I don't regret voting for the guy, but yeah.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (dGCAG)

Agree.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at April 01, 2025 12:42 PM (gllTv)

60 I've heard rumblings that Kash is not so much talking about going after rogue agents anymore, and focusing on ham n' egg tasks like pursuing criminals in the real world.
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'Rumblings' aren't facts, but that development wouldn't surprise me at all. Except for Homan (and even he's gone weak-sister), all this tough talk from the administration has been just that. Talk.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at April 01, 2025 12:38 PM (Q0kLU)

Rumbings is just my word, because I don't hang on everything being said by these people. What I've heard is people who DO pay attention to what Kash is saying, and they're saying he's not talking about going after rogue agents at this point.

Does that mean he's not going to do jack squat about it? Hell if I know, but the thing is, before he got the job, that was pretty much all he talked about.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (dGCAG)

61 58 This fits with how they treated the computer store operator when they secured the hard drive from him. The store owner told the two FBI field agents who showed up that based on what was on the computer, he was a little concerned for his safety.

Mr MacIsaac has been on local radio a few times and has spoken of enduring years of harassment.

he had to close the shop.

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (Pv3Rg)

62 It's not too late to arrest Chris Wray.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (6ydKt)

63 Tea leaves, but turnout from WI is looking positive. (Very high, rivaling 2024, which should help the R candidate.)

Also, the two FL special elections are no where near close based on partisan makeup so far.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)

64 And what does Tay Tay think?
Posted by: Your neighborhood AWFL
_________

The Tay Tay wave peaked, and is now on a slow steady decline to boob jobs and botox.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (rWTXa)

65 Being the eternal cynic I am, I started with the assumption Trump wasn't going to be able to do a lot of what he said he would.

Well that, and it takes time. Its only been like 70 days, so I'm willing to see what happens next.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (ecJ7k)

66 The FBI should be disbanded and the CIA should be folded into the department of defense.

Posted by: Ron at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (KDtr3)

67 Does that mean he's not going to do jack squat about it? Hell if I know, but the thing is, before he got the job, that was pretty much all he talked about.

Burt that may just be smart tho. with these people you don't talk about doing it you have to just WHAM! - do it

or they will kill you first

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (Pv3Rg)

68 Gag orders
Security classifications
FISA
Nationwide injunctions
Official immunity
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Name five things that are abused excessively by the government and can be eliminated with little or no harm to the public.

But will devastate the government.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (m77VT)

69 50 In what way is the FBI morally superior to the KGB?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (jM63s)

Morally superior? Eh.

The FBI has an interesting history. The tl;dr of it is that the Pinkertons were getting too powerful, so the FBI came in to bust kneecaps.

But like all government agencies, they experience massive mission creep and pretty soon J Edgar Hoover was the most powerful person in DC and had dossiers on every one of any prominence in the country.

This is always how it goes. Secret police (or, I'd even argue, federal police) do not work in a supposedly free, open, democratic society.

But the FBI are small fries compared to our intel community, who ended up getting way more power than the FBI in the post-WWII scramble for power in the new world order.

So if I were to compare anyone to the KGB, it would likely be the CIA.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (uCjyK)

70 66 The FBI should be disbanded and the CIA should be folded into the department of defense.

correct

Posted by: Black Orchid at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (Pv3Rg)

71 In what way is the FBI morally superior to the KGB?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 01, 2025 12:40 PM (jM63s)

The KGB was Russian, man. Russian.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 01, 2025 12:41 PM (ExV1e)

American communism has more anal sex and black “culture”, so it’s obviously superior.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (l3YAf)

72 Afternoon ace. The propaganda ministries will say this is"old news" and not cover any of if. Trump, Patel and Bondi have to keep chopping away at the FBI until the gangrene is removed.
They did take my advice to get Undercovers to safety and then dump the whole FBI database onto the Web so chopping away it is

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (2ZThz)

73 Also, the two FL special elections are no where near close based on partisan makeup so far.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)

Well that's unpossible. I was promised just yesterday the Dems were going to run away with the Florida races and I was too immediately light my hair on fire.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2025 12:45 PM (MGB5H)

74 Arrests. Trials. Long sentences and some executions.

Waiting.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 01, 2025 12:45 PM (CL9Gz)

75 Quick! Get the networks on the phone. We need another heroic show about the brave and honest special agents just be sure to make them women and gay.

Don't worry about funding, we have the USAID money.

Oh shit.

Posted by: FBI Communication Drone at April 01, 2025 12:45 PM (dJimA)

76 The FBI should be disbanded and the CIA should be folded into the department of defense.
Posted by: Ron at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (KDtr3)

Those guys suck!

Posted by: DIA at April 01, 2025 12:45 PM (gllTv)

77 They weren't just protecting their favorite candidate.

They were protecting foreign governments' ability to bribe and blackmail Biden.

Because they were blackmailing him, too.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (1jW5f)

78 It's time for some perp walks.

Noem has turned over two internal snitches who foiled a raid and put lives in danger.
Herridge has documented the FBI lawlessness with the laptop.

Perp walks are overdue.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (4GPKZ)

79 I saw the writing on the wall that "federal law enforcement" was rotting from the head down after Waco and the Elian Gonzalez travesty. It's been downhill from there.

Posted by: Paladin at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (wqVgW)

80 Patel needs to order all the redactions to be removed, and fire the people responsible for making the redactions.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (8zz6B)

81 "Sean Hannity told me that 99% of the Bureau are straight-shooters who carry a lunchbox to work."

Patel has also said ( paraphrased) there are "a lot" of good/excellent agents in the bureau. The scum do seem to rise to the top.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (Cus5s)

82 73 Well that's unpossible. I was promised just yesterday the Dems were going to run away with the Florida races and I was too immediately light my hair on fire.
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 01, 2025 12:45 PM (MGB5H)

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They weren't close based on early voting data, either, yesterday.

It was the mainstream media wishcasting and having shocking influence when their ability to predict elections are obviously shot, if there's an effort at all.

The pattern we saw play out over election season in 2024 in FL is just playing out again. An R-leaning electorate in early voting giving way to a R-heavy electorate on Election Day.

That doesn't turn out to create close races.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)

83 66 The FBI should be disbanded and the CIA should be folded into the department of defense.
Posted by: Ron at April 01, 2025 12:44 PM (KDtr3)

The DoD already has enough intel agencies. Army, Navy, Airforce, fucking Coast Guard, most likely the Space Force (too lazy to google). Plus, of course the NSA.

The CIA was supposed to consolidate all of those intel agencies (plus State, Treasury, etc) in to one report for the President. That was the entire purpose of the CIA under Truman. Truman was annoyed at getting dozens of contradictory reports and, in the name of efficiency, created one central intelligence agency to sort through the nonsense for him.

And within 10 years, they were assassinating people all over the planet and had more power than any elected person in DC.

Kind of the nature of the beast. Intel agencies do not meld well with our type of government.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:47 PM (uCjyK)

84 Does that mean he's not going to do jack squat about it? Hell if I know, but the thing is, before he got the job, that was pretty much all he talked about.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (dGCAG)

Another fraud.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 12:47 PM (l3YAf)

85 If the FBI were to be disbanded khaki sales would be severely disrupted.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at April 01, 2025 12:48 PM (jM63s)

86 I'm not going to get too exercised about what is going on at DOJ and the FBI. It's only April. Both DOJ and the FBI are some of the worst swamps in DC. Bondi and Patel have two jobs in front of them: Drain their organization of miscreants but also try to make sure they do their job.

It's a Herculean task I don't emvy either of them.

On the plus side, President Trump is going hard after swamp funding, which will have far reaching consequences. Need to cut people some slack here. They're human and going up against a completely vicious and corrupt system.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 01, 2025 12:48 PM (tT6L1)

87 Patel has also said ( paraphrased) there are "a lot" of good/excellent agents in the bureau. The scum do seem to rise to the top.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (Cus5s)

Yeah, yeah. Ham n' eggers just trying to get the bad guys off the street, we know. We've heard it all before.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (uCjyK)

88 73 Also, the two FL special elections are no where near close based on partisan makeup so far.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
______________________

Randy Fine did an interview yesterday on Clay and Buck. He said his opponent is one of those radical Hamas supporting idiots and his numbers looked great.

Posted by: Orson at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (dIske)

89 46 I do not regret my vote for Trump.
What would we have now without him?

Posted by: MAC V SOG at April 01, 2025 12:39 PM (P4Pk9)

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We'd have a wine step-mom with a decent laugh and about 5 pounds of air in her head at the WH.

We'd have Trump in jail for 10 years for an accounting trick.

We'd have a happy media, a very, very, happy media.
And isn't that the most important thing of all?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (6ydKt)

90 Aaaaand will Elvis Chan or anyone else be prosecuted for election tampering?

Posted by: Lizzy at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (Hkcdp)

91 Where is the line that separates election interference from treason?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * ain't no sunshine in my life today at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (Ad1BY)

92 Why is nobody in jail?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (ZWpzy)

93 7 Wake me when the arrests happen.
Posted by: Cray Cray at April 01, 2025 12:31 PM (8X2Fu)

I mean yeah but what would you charge them with?

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 12:50 PM (WYStd)

94 Oohhh. They "tricked" Twitter and Facebook.

ROFLMAO.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 01, 2025 12:50 PM (jcQqy)

95
How many of the 51 knew?

I'm just kidding they all knew.

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 12:51 PM (neOeF)

96 91 Where is the line that separates election interference from treason?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * ain't no sunshine in my life today at April 01, 2025 12:49 PM (Ad1BY)

Political power.

That's the line.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:51 PM (uCjyK)

97 Actually, jailing should start with Christopher Wray. As Director there is no possible way that he didn't know about this.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 12:51 PM (ZWpzy)

98
We need show trials.

We need object lessons.

Next press conference Bondi or Patel do is them pointing at hi-tops in orange jump suits. Otherwise I don't want to see or hear from them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (4GPKZ)

99 What's a little politicization of the guv'mint between friends?

Yall don't get your panties in a twist.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (aPY1X)

100 The FBI cannot be reformed.
It cannot be saved.
It cannot be fixed.

It is rotten top to bottom, from the GS-15 down to janitor with people loyal to--and only to--the Democrat Party.

There's no sorting the wheat from the chaff.

It's like the saying, "if you add a teaspoon of fine wine to a barrel of sewage, you still have a barrel of sewage. If you add a teaspoon of sewage to a barrel of fine wine, you now have a barrel of sewage."

The FBI is sewage.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (m77VT)

101 Question - is anything the FBI does actually illegal?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (aPY1X)

102

EM' ASPARAGUS FOADDY-SEBUN!11Q!1!!1!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (EFZgU)

103 66. CIA disbanded. The DoD already has more than one intelligence agency.

Posted by: PaleRider at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (CKOCg)

104 Again, abolish this organization which has become nothing more than an American Gestapo. And in the interim, require that all their agents speak with German accents. For authenticity's sake.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 12:53 PM (ZWpzy)

105 Funny - the actual fascists are the ones complaining most loudly about non-fascists being fascists.

Posted by: How very odd don't you think? at April 01, 2025 12:53 PM (TbWk/)

106 I mean yeah but what would you charge them with?
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 12:50 PM (WYStd)

RICO them. The underlying charges are corruption and some kind of abuse of authority under the color of law. I'm sure they're a cause of action a prosecutor could find if they so desired.

But that would mean admitting our FBI, CIA, etc. are operating as criminal organizations. Which no one will ever say.

So, nothing will happen to anyone. Maybe, at worst, some guy in a field office in Cincinnati will have to take an early retirement and get a no show job at a Deep State-aligned company.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:53 PM (uCjyK)

107
Every day is another day that Harris isn't president. You can't buy that peace of mind.

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 12:53 PM (neOeF)

108 Anyone here still think the FBI can be fixed, or reformed, or otherwise trusted to do anything other than choke on a big fat AIDS dick?

The FBI needs to be burned to the ground, the Earth salted, and an entirely new agency with a limited domestic purpose created. It's insane that we kept adding all these foreign elements to the FBI's jurisdiction and purpose.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2025 12:53 PM (iFTx/)

109 Patel has also said ( paraphrased) there are "a lot" of good/excellent agents in the bureau. The scum do seem to rise to the top.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (Cus5s)

As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 12:54 PM (m/xNt)

110 And it never occurred to the agent to be ~~a whistleblower~~ unemployed over this. Shocker.

Edited for reality.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (/y8xj)

111 101 Question - is anything the FBI does actually illegal?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (aPY1X)

Show me the man, I'll show you the crime.

- Prosecutors in literally any other context.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (uCjyK)

112 109 As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 12:54 PM (m/xNt)

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I suspect the best way to think of the rank and file of the FBI is that they are lawful neutral.

They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a lawful neutral with my kids.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

113 There's no sorting the wheat from the chaff.

It's like the saying, "if you add a teaspoon of fine wine to a barrel of sewage, you still have a barrel of sewage. If you add a teaspoon of sewage to a barrel of fine wine, you now have a barrel of sewage."

The FBI is sewage.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (m77VT)

Naw man, like every other law enforcement agency they have a couple of bad apples but the rest are all-American law-abiding Constitution-loving ham-and-eggers serving and protecting us, the helpless citizens of this divinely blessed country.

Posted by: Mmmm...ham and eggs... at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (TbWk/)

114 Harry Paratestes

Stop with the negative waves. Your solution is sound. We need to impart will on certain individuals to make it happen.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 01, 2025 12:56 PM (u82oZ)

115
Here's that fuck Elvis Chan on "securing" the 2020 election from foreign influence.

https://tinyurl.com/4wre7k8r

"The American public can be reassured ... the type of work we have been doing includes trying to ensure we have clear channels of communication open within the U.S. government; with the state, county and local officials that are in charge of elections; as well as with all the social media and technology platforms."

Just hold everything he says up to a mirror and you've got the truth.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 01, 2025 12:56 PM (lCaJd)

116 101 Question - is anything the FBI does actually illegal?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 01, 2025 12:52 PM (aPY1X)

Don't you mean LEGAL ?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 01, 2025 12:56 PM (jcQqy)

117 Given enough time, all organizations become corrupt.

Posted by: davidt at April 01, 2025 12:56 PM (i0F8b)

118 As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.

I hear you and am sure you are right but I am equally sure that there were some really, really decent people in the Nazi SS as well. Seriously. But that still wasn't an excuse.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 12:57 PM (ZWpzy)

119 I suspect the best way to think of the rank and file of the FBI is that they are lawful neutral.

They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a lawful neutral with my kids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

100%. And, I get it. They have careers to worry about and mortgages to pay and kids to feed.

They don't exactly hire cops (or people in the military) for their aversion to taking orders and their free-thinking nature.

In fact, they hire people who will say "how high?" when you tell them to jump.

I like how you phrase it though -- lawful neutral.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

120 I suspect the best way to think of the rank and file of the FBI is that they are lawful neutral.

They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a lawful neutral with my kids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

A collection of Eichmanns

Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 12:58 PM (KW6fN)

121 I suspect the best way to think of the rank and file of the FBI is that they are lawful neutral.

They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a lawful neutral with my kids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

"Vee ver just folloving zee orders" hasnt been a legitimate defense for a looooong time.

Posted by: Make Nuremberg Great Again at April 01, 2025 12:58 PM (TbWk/)

122 119 I like how you phrase it though -- lawful neutral.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

======

I'm not a DnD player, but the classification system has good uses.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

123 "Yeah, yeah. Ham n' eggers just trying to get the bad guys off the street, we know. We've heard it all before."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Seems like 100% of them were willing to arrest innocents and search their homes, while keeping the victim and his wife and kids out in the cold for hours.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:59 PM (Cus5s)

124 112 109 As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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Good, we need good people.
We also need bad people perp walked.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 12:59 PM (4GPKZ)

125 In fact, they hire people who will say "how high?" when you tell them to jump.

I like how you phrase it though -- lawful neutral.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

Patel could offer swift promotions to lower-level Fibbies who rat out the bad apples above them in the chain of command.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2025 12:59 PM (8zz6B)

126 I hear you and am sure you are right but I am equally sure that there were some really, really decent people in the Nazi SS as well. Seriously. But that still wasn't an excuse.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 12:57 PM (ZWpzy)

Yep. If you work for an evil organization, you are committing evil yourself. Even if you’re just the guy emptying the waste paper baskets.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 12:59 PM (l3YAf)

127 There are good folks in the FBI but they're out in the field offices across the country actually putting bad guys in prison and not getting noticed because they're just doing their jobs.

However, RBI Headquarters and the DC field offices could be leveled by naval gunfire at 2pm on a Monday and I wouldn't bat an eye.

Posted by: ballistic at April 01, 2025 01:00 PM (fcWjU)

128 127 There are good folks in the FBI but they're out in the field offices across the country actually putting bad guys in prison and not getting noticed because they're just doing their jobs.

However, RBI Headquarters and the DC field offices could be leveled by naval gunfire at 2pm on a Monday and I wouldn't bat an eye.
Posted by: ballistic at April 01, 2025 01:00 PM (fcWjU)

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The FBI field office in Birmingham sent more than a dozen agents to investigate a noose at Talladega once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

129 Stop with the negative waves. Your solution is sound. We need to impart will on certain individuals to make it happen.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 01, 2025 12:56 PM (u82oZ)

What?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:00 PM (uCjyK)

130 A collection of Eichmanns
Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 12:58 PM (KW6fN)

One might even say “little Eichmanns”.,

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 01:01 PM (l3YAf)

131 Apropos of nothing, anyone want their own EOD robot, missing the claw?

https://tinyurl.com/bp6updn6

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 01, 2025 01:01 PM (W2MFb)

132 120 I suspect the best way to think of the rank and file of the FBI is that they are lawful neutral.

They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a lawful neutral with my kids.
Posted by: TheJames, back to the finish with Corman
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Another word for lawful neutral is CHAMELEON.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 01:01 PM (4GPKZ)

133 Yes, of course the Space Force has an intelligence agency:

https://is.gd/plXIB9

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (FVaXK)

134 Patel could offer swift promotions to lower-level Fibbies who rat out the bad apples above them in the chain of command.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2025 12:59 PM (8zz6B)

There are certainly things he COULD do. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

I'm not a DnD player, but the classification system has good uses.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

I'm calling bullshit on you not being a DnD player.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

135 Seems like 100% of them were willing to arrest innocents and search their homes, while keeping the victim and his wife and kids out in the cold for hours.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:59 PM (Cus5s)

And this is part of the problem. You have to have a somewhat questionable mindset from the get-go to be not just wiling but eager to exert control up to and including visiting violence upon your fellow citizen. There need to be tighter strictures on law enforcement, not looser.

Posted by: Make Constitutional Rights Great Again at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (TbWk/)

136 As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 12:54 PM (m/xNt)

====

I suspect the best way to think of the rank and file of the FBI is that they are lawful neutral.

They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

Honestly, I wouldn't trust a lawful neutral with my kids.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
____________

I partly agree and partly disagree. Yes, a large portion of the rank and file will do whatever it takes to keep their jobs. They will follow orders. But there's also a significant portion of the rank and file (and upper levels) that's hardcore leftwing partisan. Obama and then Biden had a lot of time to stack the decks with DEI scumfucks and leftwing radicals. These cocksuckers will obey only the orders they agree with, and ignore or thwart the ones they don't.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (iFTx/)

137 134 I'm calling bullshit on you not being a DnD player. .
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

=======

After college, I spent an hour with my roommate and his friends building a character.

At the end of it, I said, "This is boring as shit," and I never played.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

138 97 97 Actually, jailing should start with Christopher Wray. As Director there is no possible way that he didn't know about this.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 12:51 PM (ZWpzy)

-- --

Anything dealing with a high-ranking politician or their family goes straight to the top floor.

Wray knew.
Wray knew it would help Biden and hurt Trump to bury the laptop.

His people weren't going rogue to setup social media for Russian disinfo while also pretending they didn't know they had Hunter's laptop with evidence of all sorts of criminal activity sitting in the forensics lab safe.

Wray had to OK all of that.

Wray's a snake, surrounded by snakes doing snake shit.

And now, if any of them are charged, they're all going to play stupid & ignorant and act like they're the victims of Trump's vengeance.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:03 PM (6ydKt)

139 133 Yes, of course the Space Force has an intelligence agency:

https://is.gd/plXIB9
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (FVaXK)

Of course. And it went from being led by a Marqus to a Marcus, so there's that.

But one might ask -- why does Space Force need a dedicated intelligence agency?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:03 PM (uCjyK)

140 Shrug.
- scotus

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at April 01, 2025 01:03 PM (A+/01)

141 I'm calling bullshit on you not being a DnD player.

Well, he does have kids, so....

Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 01:04 PM (/y8xj)

142 Hang them.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at April 01, 2025 01:04 PM (i24o9)

143 You know how much worse it was under Biden than Obama? Life under Harris would have been *that* much worse than Biden. By design. I don't even have the capacity to imagine.

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 01:05 PM (neOeF)

144 A new retarded anti-gun ownership talking point has dropped.

"1 out of every 15 American adults have been at a mass shooting, according to a University of Colorado study"

Assuming 260 million US adults 18 or older, that's about 17,333,333 people who have experienced a mass shooting. It doesn't pass the sniff test.

Apparently they included anyone who has heard illegal gunfire. So if a city based gang banger fired a gun out of a moving car, 5,000 people in that neighborhood just experienced a mass shooting.

Bad neighborhoods with multiple shootings per weekend drive up the national average with the same 100,000 people experiencing "mass shootings" over and over.

http://tiny.cc/oz4f001

Posted by: bonhomme at April 01, 2025 01:05 PM (lIio7)

145 128
The FBI field office in Birmingham sent more than a dozen agents to investigate a noose at Talladega once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

-- --

One of the most terrifying, bone-chilling, made to hang a mouse, nooses I've ever seen.

Top men.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:05 PM (6ydKt)

146
As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus

===============

Do you ever ask him about what's going on in DC? In leadership? Do you ever ask him if there's anything he can do to rid the organization of criminals at the top?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 01, 2025 01:05 PM (lCaJd)

147 I was going to write a screed on the bravery of the whistleblowers that risked all to bring this to light in 2020.

Except: I recall the knife that stabbed the TEA Party to death was borrowed from Republicans with permission.

There are some very massive, evil, amoral and violent organizations out there ready at a moment to defend the power of the Democrat Party.

The last 6 months get us maybe a year or so from our "D-Day" against them.
We have a lot, a whole lot, of work to do to root out the whole hydra of corruption against us.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 01:05 PM (m77VT)

148 And this is part of the problem. You have to have a somewhat questionable mindset from the get-go to be not just wiling but eager to exert control up to and including visiting violence upon your fellow citizen. There need to be tighter strictures on law enforcement, not looser.
Posted by: Make Constitutional Rights Great Again at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (TbWk/)

Lets be real -- they, like most police organizations in the US, largely hire adrenaline junkies who enjoy kicking in doors while kitted up like GI Joe.

Of course they were happy to comply.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:05 PM (uCjyK)

149 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 01:01 PM (l3YAf)

Some of us have just been around too long.

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (neOeF)

150 The FBI field office in Birmingham sent more than a dozen agents to investigate a noose at Talladega once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)

A “noose” that was 4 inches in diameter. A noose for a mouse. (For those who forgot, it was just an ordinary garage door pull that had been that way for years)

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (jDZeQ)

151 But one might ask -- why does Space Force need a dedicated intelligence agency?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Space aliens.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (4GPKZ)

152 As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus

Without question. I can not judge them or state unequivocally that I would have acted differently, yet, to quote John Stuart Mill: “Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

Posted by: Sock Monkey * ain't no sunshine in my life today at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (Ad1BY)

153 149 Some of us have just been around too long.
Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (neOeF)

=======

I remember when you went by another name...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

154 And now, if any of them are charged, they're all going to play stupid & ignorant and act like they're the victims of Trump's vengeance.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:03 PM (6ydKt)

And they would be right. But vengeance is deserved.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2025 01:07 PM (8zz6B)

155 This is why we have a "candidate quality" issue.

Any potential scandal a right of center figure has becomes covered endlessly and any policing agency that is controlled by the left will do a hostile investigation.

Conversely for left of center figures the issues are swept under the rug, minimized, and if there is a policing agency they refuse to investigate unless forced.

Posted by: Willy Brown at April 01, 2025 01:07 PM (t0Rmr)

156 Patel should fire every GS-14 and above.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 01:07 PM (ZmEVT)

157 >>to quote John Stuart Mill: “Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”

Why would you quote that Utilitarian Faggot?

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (AVXxY)

158 Space aliens.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (4GPKZ)

Heh, I suppose.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (uCjyK)

159 NY Post, Politics
Exclusive
‘Spies Who Lie’ were CIA contractors when they falsely implied Hunter Biden laptop was Russian fake
By Steven Nelson
Published June 25, 2024

And I still believe Hunter was, too.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (NFX2v)

160 RICO them. The underlying charges are corruption and some kind of abuse of authority under the color of law. I'm sure they're a cause of action a prosecutor could find if they so desired.

I could be wrong (probably am) but it seems to me that a RICO case would be tough to get a conviction for. Especially in DC.

Any charges would need to be filed in Texas or something.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (C9gs3)

161 I remember when you went by another name...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

When Vader fell to the dark side the good man I knew was destroyed. So what I told you was true- from a certain point of view.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi, liar

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (/x6eu)

162 161 When Vader fell to the dark side the good man I knew was destroyed. So what I told you was true- from a certain point of view.
-Obi-Wan Kenobi, liar
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (/x6eu)

=======

"I planned it all!"
-George Lucas

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)

163 I remember when you went by another name...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

There are some who call me... Tim.

Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 01:09 PM (neOeF)

164 The minute they denied it I knew it was real.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (gbOdA)

165
I don't even have the capacity to imagine.
Posted by: ...

==============

Neither do I. Four years, with a worshipful press, an enabling judiciary, a whole new electorate made of fine Corinthian leather, USAID unbound... I think China would have been the undisputed world power by 2028.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (lCaJd)

166 The FBI field office in Birmingham sent more than a dozen agents to investigate a noose at Talladega once.
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40 agents were needed to raid Mar a Largo.
To recover 9 boxes.
That they knew were stored in a locked room.

And they spent 8 hours there.
To recover 9 boxes.
That they knew were stored in a locked room.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (m77VT)

167 One of the most terrifying, bone-chilling, made to hang a mouse, nooses I've ever seen.

Top men.

You get sent on a bullsh*t assignment to a nice place. It takes you 10 seconds to know it's BS. Might as well milk the travel and per diem for a while since you're already there.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (/y8xj)

168 Spies Who Lie’ were CIA contractors when they falsely implied Hunter Biden laptop was Russian fake
By Steven Nelson
Published June 25, 2024

And I still believe Hunter was, too.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 01, 2025 01:08 PM (NFX2v)

Of course they wrote that letter at the urging of the CIA, I don't know how that is some kind of breaking news.

And Hunter? Who knows? I'm sure the CIA and other intel agencies used him because he's a nepo baby idiot crackhead who would be very easy to manipulate.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (uCjyK)

169 163 I remember when you went by another name...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)

There are some who call me... Tim.
Posted by: ... at April 01, 2025 01:09 PM (neOeF)

======

I had to pass through the forest with the Knights Who Say...who until recently said Ni.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

170 Space aliens.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at April 01, 2025 01:06 PM (4GPKZ)

Illegal Space Aliens.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (jcQqy)

171 Since Bidens handlers were going YOLO, I am surprised they did not try some good old fashioned gun control.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (/x6eu)

172 167 You get sent on a bullsh*t assignment to a nice place. It takes you 10 seconds to know it's BS. Might as well milk the travel and per diem for a while since you're already there.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (/y8xj)

======

It is a solid 60 minute drive from Birmingham.

90 if there's traffic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (GBKbO)

173 We have a church kid who grew up and joined the Marines and served as an MP and executive security. Now he is an FBI Special Agent.

I want to think that he is a Hammond Egger but, I am careful what I say around his parents now.

It sucks that it has to be that way.

Posted by: Grump928(C) RIP vic, absent friend at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (W2MFb)

174 156 Patel should fire every GS-14 and above.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 01:07 PM (ZmEVT
And forbid them ever working at any government position on pain of death.

Posted by: Eromero at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (p4vtc)

175 A collection of Eichmanns
Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 12:58 PM (KW6fN)

One might even say “little Eichmanns”.,
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 01:01 PM (l3YAf)

I tried to convey the same meaning without blatantly stealing the term. But you saw through that, didn't ya?!

Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (KW6fN)

176 I'm calling bullshit on you not being a DnD player. .
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

=======

After college, I spent an hour with my roommate and his friends building a character.

At the end of it, I said, "This is boring as shit," and I never played.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:03 PM (GBKbO)
_____

I was DM. I built an interesting and complex setting and campaign that I was very proud of. Sadly, the players were all hack-and-slash savages. They missed or ignored all the nuances and puzzles I designed, in favor of just killing everything.

There was an injured baby dragon that anyone not a retard would think twice about killing. Nah, they killed it. No matter how many hints I gave that maybe killing a baby dragon wasn't a good idea, and that maybe just maybe the baby's mother might be a great wyrm and lurking around, they didn't get it.

So it was with some satisfaction and just desserts when the mother did finally show up, saw what the characters did, and slaughtered them all in two rounds.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

177 "A “noose” that was 4 inches in diameter. A noose for a mouse. (For those who forgot, it was just an ordinary garage door pull that had been that way for years)"

But I guess all those agents got a free trip and free tickets for the race? Probably had 100 volunteers to go "investigate".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (Cus5s)

178 They will obey any order from their chain of command.

Good or bad.

That is true of cops and military in general. Remember that scene in Robocop where the cops are ordered to open fire on Robo? They complain, but they do it anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (ecJ7k)

179 As I recall, the agents that got Hunter's laptop from Mac (the repair shop owner) told the guy it would be very bad for him if he talked about that laptop to anybody.

Start with finding those agents, make them explain themselves, and then start working your way up the chain collecting evidence.

Bondi & Patel should set Bongino loose on this and see what he and his team can find.

Forget the IG, that'll just drag this out until 2027.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:12 PM (6ydKt)

180 The entire Comey FBI was a criminal cabal that should result in countless executions and life sentences, but wait for it... nothing will happen.

Posted by: EP at April 01, 2025 01:12 PM (aiCOr)

181 176 So it was with some satisfaction and just desserts when the mother did finally show up, saw what the characters did, and slaughtered them all in two rounds.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (iFTx/)

=======

"Alright, we'll call it a draw."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)

182 "I planned it all!"
-George Lucas
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)

I'd say the light incest was planned if the books had been written by noted speed bump, Steven King.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:12 PM (/x6eu)

183 Reports are that the Wisconsin turnout is +35 over the 2023 special elections. That translates to over 600k votes.
Come on GOP Badgers!

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 01, 2025 01:13 PM (2ZThz)

184 "The FBI" didn't do this. FBI people did it.

People with names.

Name every fucking one of them. And their contacts at justice, and at the WH.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 01, 2025 01:13 PM (KiBMU)

185 Since Bidens handlers were going YOLO, I am surprised they did not try some good old fashioned gun control.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (/x6eu)

my guess is they had their hands full doing what they were doing

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2025 01:13 PM (D7oie)

186 >>I was DM. I built an interesting and complex setting and campaign that I was very proud of. Sadly, the players were all hack-and-slash savages. They missed or ignored all the nuances and puzzles I designed, in favor of just killing everything.

Leeeeeroy Jenkins!

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:13 PM (AVXxY)

187 As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 12:54 PM (m/xNt)

That's what we said.

Posted by: German Nazzie Party 1922-1945 at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (dGCAG)

188 I just checked NPR.org, and I'm not seeing this story on their website.

I'm beginning to wonder if Katherine Maher's promise to make NPR more centrist was really sincere.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (d9Y5o)

189 I liked the nugget that German military can refuse to follow an order if... what was the phrasing? 'It violates their morals.'(?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (/x6eu)

190 "God Damnit Leroy!"

Posted by: davidt at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (i0F8b)

191 off sock

Posted by: Gref at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (aBgBM)

192 Oh, I don't disagree at all, but..

OPM Senior Executive Service Desk Guide

Ch. 8 - Removals and Suspensions
Statute: 5 U.S.C. 3393(g), 3592, and 7541-7543

Regulations: 5 CFR Part 359 and Part 752

Procedural protections and placement or other rights to which an SES member is entitled are determined by law and regulation. They depend on the nature of the action being taken, the type of SES appointment held by the member and, at times, by the member’s appointment status just before entry into the SES.

---
But there are also RIFs and Furloughs. (See the eleven other eleven chapters.)

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (NFX2v)

193 You get sent on a bullsh*t assignment to a nice place. It takes you 10 seconds to know it's BS. Might as well milk the travel and per diem for a while since you're already there.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 01:10 PM (/y8xj)

-- --

That pavement gets pretty hot in Alabama in the summer, though.

You're right.
They were probably laughing their asses off on the way back to the office.

Their bosses and their bosses are the pandering idiots.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (6ydKt)

194 109 Patel has also said ( paraphrased) there are "a lot" of good/excellent agents in the bureau. The scum do seem to rise to the top.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2025 12:46 PM (Cus5s)

As I've shared on here before, (and J.J. has highlighted) One of my good friends is an agent. He's a good man.

Just like all groups/organizations made up of human beings, there are good people and bad people.
Posted by: Defenestratus
========
I'm sure that there were good people at Enron. Doesn't mean that Enron was not a company built upon fraud. Enron is no more--good.

When bad behavior is endemic in an organization, it is best to let it die--you can use withering by repeated personnel cuts, ending it immediately, and so on.

The FBI is and has been a political police similar to the role that the KGB did internally and as such is a protector of big Fed government and Democrats in particular.

It is as corrupt as the CIA but focused more on domestic issues while the CIA is off meddling in other countries via color revolutions, etc.

In these cases, it is best to simply truncate the existing organization by handing off its intended tasks to other federal agencies. Then it dies.

Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

195 Why would you quote that Utilitarian Faggot?
Posted by: garrett

Because even utilitarian faggots can mistakenly speak the truth.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * ain't no sunshine in my life today at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (Ad1BY)

196 noted speed bump, Steven King.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:12 PM (/x6eu)

Lucky bastard.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (neOeF)

197 ...and give the "stink-eye" to the GS-13s.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (ZmEVT)

198 Utilitarian faggot or Unitarian faggot?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 01:16 PM (ZmEVT)

199 Didn't read the post but I've read elsewhere it was verified late in 2019.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 01, 2025 01:16 PM (NNMcJ)

200 I think absent an actual counter-espionage context, all communications from the Feds to tech companies should be on open comms.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 01, 2025 01:16 PM (mlg/3)

201 Or, how did Ralph Waldo Emerson get into the discussion?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (ZmEVT)

202 Alright...Important question:

Do I want to spend way too much money for the Limited Edition 4K of Dark City that will come with some bits of tat or wait a few more months and get the Standard Edition with the exact same discs but no tat for about half the price...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

203 Saving our precious democracy one giant psy op at a time.

Any and all even remotely associated with this travesty should be charged with sedition being a traitor jailed and pensions revoked. Possible El Salvador prison time.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (17s+e)

204 In other news, Nice Lips Sally is talking to ex Adam and Cute Chelsea is talking to Sally's Billy.

Chelsea is looking unusually hawt in a silky black top, and all dolled up with makeup. Nice Lips Sally has a weird tartan scarf and outfit.

I have no clue what they are talking about.

Big Tit Donna on deck in 13 minutes, if we are lucky.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (ufFY8)

205 I just checked NPR.org, and I'm not seeing this story on their website.

I'm beginning to wonder if Katherine Maher's promise to make NPR more centrist was really sincere.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 01, 2025 01:14 PM (d9Y5o)

She is busy regretting that she hadn't gotten on the story earlier, but when she is done with that, she will have one of her 83 partisan editors check to see if they think this story has legs.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (D7oie)

206 I liked the nugget that German military can refuse to follow an order if... what was the phrasing? 'It violates their morals.'(?)

Cops and military in the US all have that kind of thing in their rules, but effectively you have to follow orders even if its wrong. If you even survive the refusal, your career likely won't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (ecJ7k)

207 184 "The FBI" didn't do this. FBI people did it.

People with names.

Name every fucking one of them. And their contacts at justice, and at the WH.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 01, 2025 01:13 PM (KiBMU)

This, please. Hiding behind the corporate board does nothing to stop this behavior. I have seen it at work in the government and it sucks.

Posted by: tcn in AK at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (LweC0)

208 That is true of cops and military in general. Remember that scene in Robocop where the cops are ordered to open fire on Robo? They complain, but they do it anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 01:11 PM (ecJ7k)

Guys like Lt. Calley are considered monsters who murdered civilians. I suppose that's just, but I wonder, who above him in the chain of command was punished?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (dGCAG)

209 Bank robber or crooked fed?

Banks are insured. Bust the crooked Feds. Then hang said convicted Feds.

Posted by: Francis at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (bbuBP)

210 1/3 of FBI agents had no problem devoting 4 years to locating and arresting elderly citizens for the crime of walking through the Capitol and snapping photos.

If 1/3 of any organization was willingly devoted to evil, would you still say the organization had ANY good men left?

It wasn't the whole city of Sodom that was banging on Lot's door.
Probably not even 1/3.
Maybe only 100.
But the whole city knew ... and did nothing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (m77VT)

211 Or, how did Ralph Waldo Emerson get into the discussion?
Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (ZmEVT)

Or Emerson Bigguns.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (8zz6B)

212 Just to add context to what my friend did at the FBI... (when last I discussed his job with him, which was almost a decade ago)...

He literally drove around town at night in a tinted out minivan - abducted street corner drug dealers and got them to flip on their suppliers then chased that up the cartel org-chart.

He never left home without arming his security system. Like he was militant about it. If he even thought that he forgot to do it we had to immediately stop what we were doing and head back to his house to make sure it was armed.

Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (xMYSd)

213 Tat?

Posted by: Grump928(C) RIP vic, absent friend at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (W2MFb)

214 176 I'm calling bullshit on you not being a DnD player. .
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 01, 2025 01:02 PM (uCjyK)

=======

After college, I spent an hour with my roommate and his friends building a character.

At the end of it, I said, "This is boring as shit," and I never played.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
_____

I was DM. I built an interesting and complex setting and campaign that I was very proud of. Sadly, the players were all hack-and-slash savages. They missed or ignored all the nuances and puzzles I designed, in favor of just killing everything.

There was an injured baby dragon that anyone not a retard would think twice about killing. Nah, they killed it. No matter how many hints I gave that maybe killing a baby dragon wasn't a good idea, and that maybe just maybe the baby's mother might be a great wyrm and lurking around, they didn't get it.

Posted by: Elric Blade
-----
I have the original D&D white box set and first edition AD&D rulebooks downstairs somewhere with Avalon Hill, SPI, etc. Played them all except 1914 was not a repeat. Traveller and TSR Top Secret were my favorites though.

Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (ctrM5)

215 I'm beginning to wonder if Katherine Maher's promise to make NPR more centrist was really sincere.

"We're workshopping ideas and then the final proposals will have to go to legal for approval. We should have something by the end of Q3. 2027. Maybe."

--Katherine Maher, probably

Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (/y8xj)

216 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

Are we talking Jennifer Connelly nudity?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (/x6eu)

217 Alright...Important question:

Do I want to spend way too much money for the Limited Edition 4K of Dark City that will come with some bits of tat or wait a few more months and get the Standard Edition with the exact same discs but no tat for about half the price...?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

2 questions?

What are bits of tat?
Can you trade tat for, well - you know?

Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (KW6fN)

218 Enron was not a company built upon fraud. Enron is no more--good.
Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

-- --

They're back!:

https://enron.com/

(seems apt for the date)

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (6ydKt)

219 why are there any redactions at all?

I thought Kash was going to change all that.

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (V6W16)

220 216 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

Are we talking Jennifer Connelly nudity?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (/x6eu)

=======

No. Dubbed sultry lounge singing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

221 Do I want to spend way too much money for the Limited Edition 4K of Dark City that will come with some bits of tat or wait a few more months and get the Standard Edition with the exact same discs but no tat for about half the price...?
---
"SHUT IT DOWN!"

lol

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (m77VT)

222 >>He literally drove around town at night in a tinted out minivan - abducted street corner drug dealers and got them to flip on their suppliers then chased that up the cartel org-chart.

"Agent, this is not the way we increase our Budget for the next quarter!"

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (AVXxY)

223 Tat?

I tawt I taw one.

Posted by: T. Bird at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (/y8xj)

224 All this redaction shit needs to stop. Unless there are criminal charges pending against some of those under that black ink, we need to know what the government has been doing in our name. And since we know no one is ever going to jail behind any of this, no need for redactions.

As someone once said, let justice be done though the heavens fall.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (MZ+PY)

225 a release with redactions might as well be no release at all

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (V6W16)

226 It wasn't the whole city of Sodom that was banging on Lot's door.
Probably not even 1/3.
Maybe only 100.
But the whole city knew ... and did nothing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (m77VT)

Excellent point!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (ZWpzy)

227 No. Dubbed sultry lounge singing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM

Aroo? I thought her lame singing that no one noticed was a subtle play on what we learn later about everyone's memories.

Posted by: Grump928(C) RIP vic, absent friend at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (W2MFb)

228 217 2 questions?

What are bits of tat?
Can you trade tat for, well - you know?
Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (KW6fN)

======

Thick cardboard box. Some cards. A poster. 60 page book.

Dolley won't be happy I'm upgrading a Blu-ray to a 4K, especially at inflated Arrow Video pricing, but she'll still...you know...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

229 Traveller and TSR Top Secret were my favorites though.

Top Secret was a great setting with a lot of neat ideas but the combat system was... odd. All guns did the same damage, but more powerful ones were more accurate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (ecJ7k)

230 SHOW US YOUR RACIST TITS, BABY!

Posted by: FBI Agents On the Infield at Talladega at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (paSBy)

231 202 Alright...Important question:

Do I want to spend way too much money for the Limited Edition 4K of Dark City that will come with some bits of tat or wait a few more months and get the Standard Edition with the exact same discs but no tat for about half the price...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

-- --

If you really like the movie, YOLO.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (6ydKt)

232
Will Bondi give a Fox News interview about this? This seems like a story big enough for Kash to weigh in, instead of leaving it to "an FBI spokesman" who has nothing to say.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (lCaJd)

233 SPI, etc. Played them all except 1914 was not a repeat. Traveller and TSR Top Secret were my favorites though.
Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:19 PM (ctrM5)

SPI.

A buddy of mine had War in the East. Never played it, but played Drive on Stalingrad a few times.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (ufFY8)

234 No. Dubbed sultry lounge singing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM (GBKbO)

Hmmm. Boobs would be a definite motivator.

As it is, is it good sultry lounge singing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (/x6eu)

235 227 No. Dubbed sultry lounge singing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:20 PM

Aroo? I thought her lame singing that no one noticed was a subtle play on what we learn later about everyone's memories.
Posted by: Grump928(C) RIP vic, absent friend at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (W2MFb)

======

She's dubbed in the theatrical version. Her real voice was used in the director's cut.

Which could be a sign of the reality of people in their places. It's the kind of movie that would do something like that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (GBKbO)

236 >>All this redaction shit needs to stop.

The Executive has the Ultimate Authority to declassify.

Trump needs to sit down in front of the American People and read the documents to us. Line by fucking line. And out everyone for everything.

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (AVXxY)

237 He literally drove around town at night in a tinted out minivan - abducted street corner drug dealers and got them to flip on their suppliers then chased that up the cartel org-chart.

He never left home without arming his security system. Like he was militant about it. If he even thought that he forgot to do it we had to immediately stop what we were doing and head back to his house to make sure it was armed.
Posted by: Defenestratus
-------
So, many of those jobs duplicated what local and state investigators did for a lot less pay and glory. Merging the DEA with the FBI was never a good idea in the first place and far too often they focus on street or one step up criminals rather than the top of the food chain which seems protected as 'sources', 'assets', etc.

Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (ctrM5)

238 March 8, 2023 - Issue: Vol. 169, No. 44 — Daily Edition
118th Congress (2023 - 2024) - 1st Session

PROTECTING SPEECH FROM GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE ACT; Congressional Record Vol. 169, No. 44
(House - March 8, 2023)

Mr. Chair, I rise in support of H.R. 140, the Protecting Speech from Government Interference Act. This legislation is clearly needed.
During the Oversight and Accountability Committee's February 8 hearing on protecting speech from government interference and social media bias, the Oversight and Accountability Committee learned just how easy it was for the Federal Government to influence a private company
to accomplish what it constitutionally cannot, and that is limit the free exercise of speech.
At the hearing, we heard hours of witness testimony that revealed the extent to which Federal employees have repeatedly and consistently communicated with social media platforms to censor and suppress the lawful speech of Americans.
The hearing exposed just how much the Biden administration attempted to normalize a policy of Federal censorship. Biden administration officials have publicly called upon and privately coordinated with private-sector social media ...

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (NFX2v)

239 a release with redactions might as well be no release at all
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (V6W16)

Even if it's in a binder and given to MAGA, Inc. people who are famous on X?

Posted by: Doof at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (KW6fN)

240 "Puddy tat" can have a different meaning, these days.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (8zz6B)

241 Who issued the gag order and why aren't they being charged with election interference?

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (f1kZG)

242 Where in the world is Nina Jankowicz:

https://tinyurl.com/3w6zhf5e

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (CL9Gz)

243 197 ...and give the "stink-eye" to the GS-13s.
Posted by: no one of any consequence

Hear, hear!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (NFX2v)

244 FEC fines should add to the treasury quite a lot.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 01, 2025 01:23 PM (17s+e)

245 In these cases, it is best to simply truncate the existing organization by handing off its intended tasks to other federal agencies. Then it dies.
Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

If there even needs to be anything like the FBI at the federal level it should be strictly to support local law officials. It should have no powers of its own.

Posted by: EP at April 01, 2025 01:24 PM (aiCOr)

246 All this redaction shit needs to stop. Unless there are criminal charges pending against some of those under that black ink, we need to know what the government has been doing in our name. And since we know no one is ever going to jail behind any of this, no need for redactions.

As someone once said, let justice be done though the heavens fall.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (MZ+PY)

Obviously, the folks who redact this stuff have their excuses. It's usually "ongoing investigation," "sources and methods," that sort of thing.

It would be simple to have a court determine if/when something should be redacted, based on very simple criteria: Show proof your investigation would be compromised if this information was released. Show that an individual will have his rights, health and/or safety harmed if the name is revealed.

Otherwise, reveal everything.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2025 01:25 PM (dGCAG)

247 >>So, many of those jobs duplicated what local and state investigators did for a lot less pay and glory. Merging the DEA with the FBI was never a good idea in the first place and far too often they focus on street or one step up criminals rather than the top of the food chain which seems protected as 'sources', 'assets', etc.

Generally, the Feds will Hook the high end of distribution and then proceed to leave them on the streets while they bust individuals to get their conviction numbers high. Because, that's where the increase in funding comes from.

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:25 PM (AVXxY)

248
Where in the world is Nina Jankowicz:

https://tinyurl.com/3w6zhf5e
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

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So, drying her tears with USAID dollars.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 01, 2025 01:25 PM (lCaJd)

249 The FBI said it didn't interfere in the 2020 election, but it did. It tricked Twitter & Facebook into censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story. Now, newly released chat messages show the FBI issued a "gag order" after an employee accidentally confirmed the laptop's authenticity.

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Sounds rather insurrection-y.

Now that the Garland Archipelago is empty, can we repopulate it with Top. Men.?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at April 01, 2025 01:25 PM (he7fo)

250 I died for your sins and this is how you remember me? By giving my name to future Fascists?

And by "died for your sins," I mean "died on the toilet."

Posted by: Elvis Presley at April 01, 2025 01:26 PM (NXYp1)

251 Where in the world is Nina Jankowicz:

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Last I heard she was auditioning for the upcoming Broadway play: Snow Woke and The Seven Cats.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at April 01, 2025 01:27 PM (he7fo)

252 Nood.

Posted by: T. Bird at April 01, 2025 01:27 PM (/y8xj)

253 And /sock.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 01, 2025 01:27 PM (/y8xj)

254 >>And by "died for your sins," I mean "died on the toilet."

I think the Sin was the Pickles on a Peanut Butter Sammich.

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:27 PM (AVXxY)

255 "a court determine"

I see the issue.

Posted by: Francis at April 01, 2025 01:28 PM (bbuBP)

256 And out everyone for everything.
Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:22 PM (AVXxY)

Well not everyone, honey!!

Posted by: Liberace at April 01, 2025 01:28 PM (neOeF)

257 It is no wonder that twitter is being attacked continuously.

This story might get out.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 01, 2025 01:29 PM (lTGtQ)

258 Utilitarian faggot or Unitarian faggot?

Posted by: no one of any consequence

This Lutheran pastor says God completely screwed up and needs to get his head straight!

Lutheran “pastor” says Jesus needed to have his worldview corrected

https://is.gd/snre0W

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 01, 2025 01:30 PM (RJkIF)

259 SPI.

A buddy of mine had War in the East. Never played it, but played Drive on Stalingrad a few times.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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Invasion America was fun but they had a weird after the SMOD game where you competed to rebuild America. Each of the players had a homeland of sorts to begin run by surviving organizations. One was Ma Bell, another was Bank of America, Vets and Texas Rangers, and then a church. After the Holocaust was the name of it.

Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:30 PM (ctrM5)

260 He literally drove around town at night in a tinted out minivan - abducted street corner drug dealers and got them to flip on their suppliers then chased that up the cartel org-chart.

He never left home without arming his security system. Like he was militant about it. If he even thought that he forgot to do it we had to immediately stop what we were doing and head back to his house to make sure it was armed.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 01, 2025 01:18 PM (xMYSd)

So he spent his career harassing people who just wanted to be able to do drugs. What a motherf*ckin’ hero.

Meanwhile, our country was taken over by anti-white gay communism and he did nothing to stop that.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at April 01, 2025 01:31 PM (l3YAf)

261 In these cases, it is best to simply truncate the existing organization by handing off its intended tasks to other federal agencies. Then it dies.
Posted by: whig at April 01, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)

If there even needs to be anything like the FBI at the federal level it should be strictly to support local law officials. It should have no powers of its own.
Posted by: EP at April 01, 2025 01:24 PM (aiCOr)

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Clinton began the weaponization of the FBI by creating a "Counterterrorism" division in '99, which W further weaponized after 9/11, natch.

They should have been restricted to domestic investigations only.

Then of course DogEater decided that US Military Veterans and White Males in general were the greatest terrorist threat, and voila!

Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at April 01, 2025 01:32 PM (he7fo)

262 Thiis whole story is yet another ho-hum to us.
So why is it being admitted to now? Who benefits?
Other than what the story says, that Twitter and Facebook were tricked, and not willing and eager participants, what is new, and are those particular facts even true?

Is it just that different outlets are carrying it this time, or what? If this is the Katel leadership showing that they're digging up the truth, it is old and weak news.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 01, 2025 01:33 PM (FCbAQ)

263 Dark City is an under-rated and fantastic movie.

Was in the theaters when I worked there.

I need to watch it again.

Wiki says it made 200k over budget, at $27.2 million.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 01, 2025 01:33 PM (m77VT)

264 229 Traveller and TSR Top Secret were my favorites though.

Top Secret was a great setting with a lot of neat ideas but the combat system was... odd. All guns did the same damage, but more powerful ones were more accurate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2025 01:21 PM (ecJ7k)

No kidding about the combat system. Nearly every one of my characters was invariably killed by a "critical hit" to one of my legs or foot. We ended up "home brewing" the system a bit to avoid that nonsense.

Posted by: goozer at April 01, 2025 01:35 PM (V1MWf)

265 Alright...Important question:

Do I want to spend way too much money for the Limited Edition 4K of Dark City that will come with some bits of tat or wait a few more months and get the Standard Edition with the exact same discs but no tat for about half the price...?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at April 01, 2025 01:17 PM (GBKbO)

Why choose? Why not get both? Why give money to Hollywood at all? They hate you.

Posted by: The Pirate Bay at April 01, 2025 01:37 PM (l3YAf)

266 >>And by "died for your sins," I mean "died on the toilet."

I think the Sin was the Pickles on a Peanut Butter Sammich.

Posted by: garrett at April 01, 2025 01:27 PM (AVXxY)

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I believe "The King" was addicted to various drugs and Peanut Butter & Banana Sammiches ... but mostly Peanut Butter & Banana Sammiches.

BTW, he apparently slipped in the bathroom and hit his head on a tub or something, knocking him out and likely leading to mental & physical issues, some years prior -- I think while staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel in Hollywood -- while there to film a movie. Could explain some things ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at April 01, 2025 01:37 PM (he7fo)

267 >> Clinton began the weaponization of the FBI by creating a "Counterterrorism" division in '99, which W further weaponized after 9/11, natch.

They blew Vicki Weaver’s brains out while she held her infant son. The weaponization of the FBI started as soon as it was founded.

Posted by: The Pirate Bay at April 01, 2025 01:39 PM (l3YAf)

268 Its not right to make fun of Elvis. Its a sin.

Posted by: Pudinhead at April 01, 2025 01:39 PM (Hpgos)

269 "The sin of Sodom was not sodomy. It was the lack of hospitality." - The Jesuits.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at April 01, 2025 02:04 PM (ZmEVT)

270 they are still lying here

note they redacted what type of investigation; it's cp shit, the laptop was jammed full of it

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An FBI Employee Confirmed the Authenticity of the Hunter Biden Laptop in October 2020.
The FBI Immediately Slapped a Gag Order on the Entire Matter to Keep Anyone from Repeating the Confirmation to Anyone Else.