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RFK Jr. May Be Crazy, But Getting Rid Of A Mandate-Loving, Science-Torturing Bureaucrat Is A Very Good Thing!

RFK Jr. Is a loon when it comes to vaccines, and the catastrophe that is the Covid19 vaccine effort has just solidified his opinions. The reality is that there many, safe, effective, lifesaving vaccines available, and the experience with these in the 20th century is a wonderful example of the power of science. Polio, Small Pox, Measles, Tetanus, Pertussis (Whooping Cough) and several others are a successful testament to the West's public health and scientific efforts.

But as usual, hubris, graft, self-aggrandizement and government overreach took that wonderful success and made it a problem. The attitude seemed to be, if several vaccines are good, then a dozen are even better!

HPV? Why? Protecting children from a sexually transmitted disease? Chicken Pox? Why? Natural immunity is better, and the disease itself is mild. And let's accelerate the time frame for these vaccines, so babies are bombarded with vaccine after vaccine, without a solid understanding of how their immune systems will respond.

And if traditional vaccine development takes years, but we have a new and mostly untested way to create vaccines quickly, then why the hell not!

Covid19 was the perfect opportunity for the ultimate in medical and government hubris. Big Pharma had the technology to create a vaccine very quickly, and government had the jackbooted thugs of its enforcement arms to mandate its use. Never mind that it was a crappy vaccine, didn't really protect people from contracting the disease, didn't limit its spread very much, and had poorly understood side effects.

But none of that mattered, and the evil cabal of Pharma and government ran roughshod over our rights, and absolutely destroyed the science of vaccines in the process. In doing so they took a society that was mostly comfortable with vaccinations, and convinced them that government and Pharma were lying through their teeth, and absolutely could not be trusted with anything... including the vaccines that have been demonstrated to work.

But back to RFK Jr.'s lunacy. It now makes more sense to America, because even if he is mostly wrong about traditional vaccines (they don't cause autism), there is a monstrous example of exactly what he has been saying for years: the Covid19 catastrophe.

Sadly, our compliant media will not tell the truth about Peter Marks, who is one of the prime players in the ridiculously fast rollout of the Covid19 vaccine and the subsequent mandates for its use. He is a fascist: comfortable with government forcing any manner of medical treatment on pain of loss of employment and, in a few cases, death.

Good on Ya RFK Jr. for dumping this arrogant, superior, freedom-crushing fascist!

Top FDA vaccine official Peter Marks resigns in opposition to RFK Jr.

The Food and Drug Administration’s top vaccine regulator Peter Marks has resigned, citing Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s “misinformation and lies” around immunization, according to a resignation letter obtained by CNBC.

For nearly 10 years, Marks led the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, a post that included evaluating Covid-19 vaccines and establishing guidelines for emerging treatments like cell and gene therapies. A key figure at the FDA, biopharma industry insiders were closely watching Marks amid the transition.

The Wall Street Journal first reported Marks’s resignation, saying an official of the Department of Health and Human Services gave Marks the chance to resign or be fired. Marks, the FDA, and the Department of Health and Human Services did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


Oh... the poor dear! Just a dedicated and selfless career scientist whose only goal is to improve the health and well-being of Americans! He's like Santa Claus and Albert Schweitzer wrapped in one!

Wenstrup Investigates FDA's Rushed Approval of the COVID-19 Vaccine

FDA Director Dr. Peter Marks testified that the FDA’s approval of the COVID-19 vaccine may have been rushed in order to meet arbitrary mandate policies set forth by the Biden Administration. Previous documents uncovered by the Select Subcommittee revealed that scientists warned Dr. Marks and other FDA officials on numerous occasions about the dangers of rushing the COVID-19 vaccine approval process. The FDA seemingly disregarded the warnings, dismissed the scientists who brought forward the concerns, and went forward with the accelerated approval process. The day after approval, the Biden Administration announced its first COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

Well look at that! A mandate! Otherwise known as totalitarianism. Marks is an evil man, and his departure from the FDA is a wonderful thing. Too bad it wasn't on a rail.

[Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter and X/Twitter] And the Apple and Spotify feeds for CJN's podcast should be working!

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1 Oneith

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2025 12:01 PM (2ovuE)

2 Good ridden. Sure lots of underlings also had hands in this crime against humanity

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2025 12:05 PM (2ovuE)

3 OK, smart guy, what does cause autism, and why have the numbers skyrocketed? I know there is money in it-SSDI payments and such.

Posted by: On The Spectrum For Cash at March 30, 2025 12:06 PM (G5+As)

4 I believe RFK would agree with you on everything you said, except that vaccines don't cause autism.

What he would say is, there have been no studies done on the possible links between autism and the NEWER vaccines that were implemented when Big Pharma decided it was a lucrative business to give children all sorts of jabs without enough study of the side effects.

As for Peter Marks, I never liked any of his music anyway. Cheesy pop rock. I thought he was Canadian, but apparently not. Born in Chicago. Which is just as bad.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:06 PM (bZhLu)

5 The reality is that there many, safe, effective, lifesaving vaccines available, and the experience with these in the 20th century is a wonderful example of the power of science. Polio, Small Pox, Measles, Tetanus, Pertussis (Whooping Cough) and several others are a successful testament to the West's public health and scientific efforts.

Since RFK Jr agrees with you here, what exactly makes him a "loon when it comes to vaccines"?

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at March 30, 2025 12:07 PM (Sf2cq)

6 Lunacy?
Come on man. This is taking the language of the left. Don’t agree with someone he’s a lunatic. He’s carry. What’s next 2 minutes of hate for him?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:07 PM (lijkE)

7 In 2020 I was shocked and befuddled as a huge percentage of the population lost their minds over covid and the government went full-on fascist…. 5 years later I still shake my head and can hardly believe it happened.

It destroyed my trust… I no longer get a flu shot every year and I’ve declined the shingles vaccine even after experiencing an unpleasant bout of shingles. No more trust

Posted by: Joe Walsh at March 30, 2025 12:09 PM (5MZNC)

8 I am still not quite sure whether they rolled out the mandate to payoff pharma for their support- pharma got to sell billions, Biden admin gets their cut or whether they saw it as a great way to go after their political opponents.

The answer is probably 'yes'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 30, 2025 12:10 PM (bss/y)

9 I'll say this for RFK Jr.; he has all of the right enemies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2025 12:11 PM (uWKK8)

10 What about this pneumonia vaccine that seems to be the latest craze?
Color me skeptical.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:11 PM (dg+HA)

11 10 years ago I would have agreed that RFK Jr is crazy. But you know what was crazy? Thinking a virus came from a bat instead of - uhm you know - the fucking virus lab down the street.

I don’t believe anything experts say. Or any conventional wisdom. He could be crazy. He could also be 100% correct. I have no idea. But I’m not blindly following one side or the other anymore.

We’ve been told anyone who doesn’t believe the erf is burning up is a lunatic as well. 97% of scientists!!! And we were told the Hunter laptop was a fake by experts!!!

So why is he a lunatic exactly? Because experts say he is?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:12 PM (lijkE)

12 He is the first one that is getting serious about banning soda from the SNAP list. Because that has all of the wrong people pi$$ed it is bound to be a great move.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 30, 2025 12:13 PM (e5NfL)

13 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: The Food Pyramid at March 30, 2025 12:13 PM (dg+HA)

14 10 What about this pneumonia vaccine that seems to be the latest craze?
Color me skeptical.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:11 PM (dg+HA)

You sound like a crazy person. Shut up and do as you’re told.
- Pfizer

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:13 PM (lijkE)

15 Good on Ya RFK Jr. for dumping this arrogant, superior, freedom-crushing fascist!

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Yale Daily News@yaledailynews
UNIVERSITY | History department power couple Timothy Snyder and Marci Shore and philosophy professor Jason Stanley will begin teaching at the University of Toronto’s renowned Munk School in fall 2025.
. . . .
Stanley wrote to the Daily Nous that his decision to leave was “entirely because of the political climate in the United States.” On Wednesday, he told the Guardian that he chose to move after seeing how Columbia University handled political attacks from Trump.

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If they can't have Nazi thugs roaming campus, he's going to Canada!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:14 PM (L/fGl)

16 I still contend the covid op was about foisting public compliance with mandates that from the very start were obviously detrimental to said public.

On this, it was highly successful.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2025 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)

17 So why is he a lunatic exactly? Because experts say he is?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:12 PM (lijkE)

To be fair, the bear story was pure lunacy.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:15 PM (QOpc8)

18 BTW…. I still see masks in public. The way I see it these people are self-identifying as lunatics so I can stay away

Posted by: Joe Walsh at March 30, 2025 12:16 PM (5MZNC)

19 The COVID-19 vaccine was the third attempt in 15 years to perfect a RNA based vaccine.

From what I read weekly inChemical and Engineering News, technological progress, irrespective of logic or true need, is what drives false innovation.

The Left and Greens has misdirected an astounding amount of money, talent, and resources into solving problems that do not exist, like AGW, a circular production effort 9everything recycles), electric batteries, and fake food / meat.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 30, 2025 12:16 PM (u82oZ)

20 Dirty old eagles sock off

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at March 30, 2025 12:17 PM (5MZNC)

21 I still contend the covid op was about foisting public compliance with mandates that from the very start were obviously detrimental to said public.

On this, it was highly successful.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2025 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)

I was listening to a presentation by a pediatrician quite a few years ago. She was saying how infant vaccines were more about getting parents into the habit of bringing their children to the pediatrician than they were about immunity.

Because... for the first year of life, the infant has immunity passed to the babe... FROM THE MOTHER!

Now, you can say parents bringing their children to a pediatrician is a good thing, or you can call it a cash grab on the part of Big Doctor, but either way it's still manipulation through lies.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:17 PM (QOpc8)

22 One of my favorite memes to come out the COVID era (and there were many) was the picture of the middle aged white woman wearing a mask that bore the words "I just do what my TV tells me to do."

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:18 PM (dg+HA)

23 Since the 80/90s, the country has become obese, everyone’s depressed and on some kind of medication. Pharma profits have never been higher.

THIS is lunacy. Not RFK Jr.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:18 PM (lijkE)

24 The WSJ is not always wrong.

Jason Willick@jawillick
"MAGA Republicans see Europe as an extension of blue-state America, full of latte-sipping progressives who love high taxes and open borders."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)

25 22 One of my favorite memes to come out the COVID era (and there were many) was the picture of the middle aged white woman wearing a mask that bore the words "I just do what my TV tells me to do."
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:18 PM (dg+HA)

A related one was an Amish guy saying he doesn’t have Covid. And non Amish guy asks how can that be. Amish guy says I don’t own a TV.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:19 PM (lijkE)

26 BTW…. I still see masks in public. The way I see it these people are self-identifying as lunatics so I can stay away
Posted by: Joe Walsh at March 30, 2025 12:16 PM (5MZNC)

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and think these folks must be symptomatic, and they're just trying to reduce the amount of particles they're spewing into the air.

I'd rather not think they're lunatics. Although I'm sure many of them are.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:20 PM (QOpc8)

27 In 2020 I was shocked and befuddled as a huge percentage of the population lost their minds over covid and the government went full-on fascist…. 5 years later I still shake my head and can hardly believe it happened.

It destroyed my trust… I no longer get a flu shot every year and I’ve declined the shingles vaccine even after experiencing an unpleasant bout of shingles. No more trust
Posted by: Joe Walsh at March 30, 2025 12:09 PM (5MZNC)

The behavior of the whole national medical profession during this time has given me a deep distrust of everything connected to it. Doctors, nurses, laboratories........everything.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:20 PM (g8Ew8)

28 24 The WSJ is not always wrong.

Jason Willick@jawillick
"MAGA Republicans see Europe as an extension of blue-state America, full of latte-sipping progressives who love high taxes and open borders."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)

Well, yes. Oh and do not forget 'hate their country and want to be part of one world that THEY control.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 30, 2025 12:20 PM (bss/y)

29 Why don't you TRUST us?!

We are SMAHHHRRRT!!!!!

Posted by: EXPERTS! at March 30, 2025 12:21 PM (Vqx30)

30 So, there was a small riot in downtown Chicago on Friday night, and a small riot at a shopping mall in Pentagon City, Virginia on Saturday night.

In March.

I'm sensing another "summer of love" gearing up.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 30, 2025 12:22 PM (xTIDn)

31 Why should I trust the "acceptable range" for my A1C?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:22 PM (dg+HA)

32 It isn't "resigning in opposition" when they want you to resign.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 30, 2025 12:22 PM (KtIIi)

33 Re Candace and her reporting on him: IDGAF.

If he cuts HHS, gets rid of drug ads, ends food stamps for junk food and cuts back the bs food additives, I don't care Margaret.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 30, 2025 12:23 PM (NwfFc)

34 The COVID-19 vaccine was the third attempt in 15 years to perfect a RNA based vaccine.

From what I read weekly inChemical and Engineering News, technological progress, irrespective of logic or true need, is what drives false innovation.

The Left and Greens has misdirected an astounding amount of money, talent, and resources into solving problems that do not exist, like AGW, a circular production effort 9everything recycles), electric batteries, and fake food / meat.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 30, 2025 12:16 PM (u82oZ)

The sad thing is, mRNA therapy is indeed a promising field of study. The problem is, it's really not ready for human poopulations, without more study and effort to make it safer.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:23 PM (QOpc8)

35 I just finished listening to Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries, discussing vaccination, the vaccine manufacturers, and what is not told to anyone out of concern over patients not taking them

It will not make anyone happy

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)

36
I no longer get a flu shot every year and I’ve declined the shingles vaccine even after experiencing an unpleasant bout of shingles. No more trust
Posted by: Joe Walsh

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I've also decided to stop getting the flu shot. I started getting it in 2012 when an insanely healthy acquaintance of mine died of the flu. That was a VERY virulent flu year swept under the rug during COVID because it showed we'd been there before and survived without lockdowns and masks.

Anyway, no more flu shots for me. I feel like I can't trust them, which is maddening. They might be the right thing to do, but how would we know?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 12:24 PM (lCaJd)

37 This damn Trump economy!

Anti-Gun "March for Our Lives" Lays Off Most Employees

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:24 PM (L/fGl)

38 I'd rather not think they're lunatics. Although I'm sure many of them are.

They're nuts, except for the Antifa-types, who are trying to hide their identities.

Somebody on X posted: "Why wouldn't you wear a mask?".

Nuts.

I briefly met the head of my local county's Democratic party organization.

She wore a facemask, of course.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 30, 2025 12:25 PM (xTIDn)

39 *Anti-Gun "March for Our Lives" Lays Off Most Employees*

For those of you keeping score at home, I'm still not sick of winning.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:26 PM (dg+HA)

40 This topic always generates a lot of heat without a lot of increased understanding. Many in the commentariat seem to latch onto a particular spin and jump in with both feet.

I agree with our Parisian contributor Le CBD that mid-century development of vaccines against the common deadly childhood infectious diseases was a historical advancement for society. I'm not so sanguine about vaccines for non-deadly diseases such as HPV or for that matter COVID in most people.

And the unforeseen (or should I say intentionally overlooked) interplay between mRNA and the coronavirus spike protein have shown to be probably as detrimental as the disease if not more.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 12:26 PM (/iMjX)

41 Well, yes. Oh and do not forget 'hate their country and want to be part of one world that THEY control.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 30, 2025 12:20 PM (bss/y)

I heard Tim Dillon of all people talking about this, how Britain has allowed bazillionaires from all over the world to come in and set up shop, because it's financially advantageous to do so.

Leading to a ruling class that really has no loyalty to the British state.

I hadn't thought of this before, but if that's the case, then why should they care whether a bunch of swarthy foreigners show up on boats and take up space in quaint British towns. If the country is screwed, they don't care. As long as it remains financially advantageous for them to be there, and once it no longer is, they'll go somewhere else.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:27 PM (QOpc8)

42 *Anti-Gun "March for Our Lives" Lays Off Most Employees*

Well, the laundered USAID money ran out.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 30, 2025 12:28 PM (xTIDn)

43 Wenstrup Investigates FDA's Rushed Approval of the COVID-19 Vaccine

Remember the claim was that the clot shot reduced your changes of getting COVID by 99%. This was based on falsified data. And everything Biden did from the mandates to the rushed approvals was based on these faked trials.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:28 PM (t0Rmr)

44 *Anti-Gun "March for Our Lives" Lays Off Most Employees*

Why does an organization that produces nothing but press releases need more than one or two employees anyway? And if their cause is so morally just, couldn't that one or two do it on a voluntary basis?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 30, 2025 12:29 PM (/y8xj)

45 Anyone throwing a wrench into the Deep State gears is fine with me, however he does it

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2025 12:29 PM (2ovuE)

46 The whole Covid event was an op, from the introduction of the virus through the vaccine mandates.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:29 PM (g8Ew8)

47 University of Maryland’s Next Commencement Speaker Is Kermit the Frog

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And will be brought to you by the letters B and S!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:30 PM (L/fGl)

48 Remember the claim was that the clot shot reduced your changes of getting COVID by 99%.

No, the claim was that it was impossible to get COVID after being vaccinated, as stated by both the President and the head of the CDC.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 30, 2025 12:30 PM (xTIDn)

49 So what's causing all the autism? Don't tell me it's just misdiagnoses. Something big is happening out there. Everybody knows some kid who is just not right mentally. I know many. I never saw kids like this growing up in the 70s and 80s.

Posted by: Victoria from Roseville, CA at March 30, 2025 12:30 PM (Y03RW)

50 I agree with our Parisian contributor Le CBD that mid-century development of vaccines against the common deadly childhood infectious diseases was a historical advancement for society. I'm not so sanguine about vaccines for non-deadly diseases such as HPV or for that matter COVID in most people.


I'm not anti-real vaccines, but I've see the charts that show increases in human longevity, and almost all the gains trace to better sanitation in the years before the mass roll out of vaccines where the advances are much more muted.

And of course ironically in the last few years those numbers have trended down mostly due to drugs (and to a lesser extent the clot shot)

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)

51 I only know what works for me . I took a flu shot a couple of times and got flu symptoms each time. I foolishy took the pneumonia shot and I have never been so sick in my life.

There is no way I was ever going to take the covid shot

Posted by: Ben Had at March 30, 2025 12:31 PM (keLsF)

52 I am not an expert on viruses, or mRNA vaccine technology, any more than my med school classmate Dr. Rachel (nee Richard) Levine who was touted as a COVID expert in his role as physician general of Pennsylvania despite rising to prominence more as a gender confused middle-aged man more than for his knowledge.

Knowing Levine's education, training and work experience I can say with confidence that he was parroting the party line as fed by Fauci et al. I have no doubt that he fancies himself an expert, much the same way as he fancies himself a woman.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 12:31 PM (/iMjX)

53 Vaccines in general started out with a noble purpose. But like all things it got taken over by corrupt leftists.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:32 PM (lijkE)

54 They're nuts, except for the Antifa-types, who are trying to hide their identities.

Somebody on X posted: "Why wouldn't you wear a mask?".

Nuts.

I briefly met the head of my local county's Democratic party organization.

She wore a facemask, of course.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 30, 2025 12:25 PM (xTIDn)

Sure, but someone in the grocery store, or Walgreens who comes in wearing a mask while they're picking up their cold/flu medicine, the mask does reduce how much creeping crud they're spreading.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:32 PM (QOpc8)

55 44 *Anti-Gun "March for Our Lives" Lays Off Most Employees*

Why does an organization that produces nothing but press releases need more than one or two employees anyway? And if their cause is so morally just, couldn't that one or two do it on a voluntary basis?
Posted by: Oddbob at March 30, 2025 12:29 PM (/y8xj)
I’m more libertarian than I use to be, pare these entities down 75%., at least.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2025 12:32 PM (p4vtc)

56 So you're quite certain traditional vaccines do not cause autism? Wow, Dr CBD, you are truly an impressive intellect. I can't wait to read your conclusive research paper, I'm glad you solved this conundrum that had so many of us guessing.

Heuristics are henceforth banned by Dr Dildo.

Posted by: Fred V at March 30, 2025 12:33 PM (Mr2Dy)

57 So what's causing all the autism? Don't tell me it's just misdiagnoses.

One argument I've seen is that its associative mating.

In the old days the math genius would get a good job and marry a woman who was pretty, or a good home maker, or just the daughter of a friend of the family.

Now? Math/computer nerds marry math/computer nerds. So if there is some recessive gene that enhances that sort of intelligence but if two copies are gained causes issues with other types of intelligence it could explain at least some of the changes.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:33 PM (t0Rmr)

58 24
'"MAGA Republicans see Europe as an extension of blue-state America, full of latte-sipping progressives who love high taxes and open borders."'

Yes. And Europeans to their detriment bought the CNN/MSNBC lie that America is a democrat country with a tiny fringe that doesn't go along with globohomo. That's why it's always a shock to them when we win.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 30, 2025 12:34 PM (3wi/L)

59 Much of this shit could be avoided in the future if we GET GOVERNMENT OUT OF OUR MEDICAL CARE.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:35 PM (g8Ew8)

60 Trump Sides With Vance, Says “Europeans Are Parasites”

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I guess they picked the wrong week to be European.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:35 PM (L/fGl)

61 Thx CBD, caught part of someone at a confessional hearing saying that since approximately 1992 no double blind testing has been done on vaccines. Most is allegedly done based on computer models. . Anyone else hear this?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 30, 2025 12:35 PM (2ZThz)

62 I still don't understand the measles panic. We all had measles as kids.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at March 30, 2025 12:36 PM (w6EFb)

63 3 things the right refuses to let go of

1. We have to be the worlds policeman
2. Tax cuts for billionaires is a good thing
3. Always listen to the experts

The younger generations see through the bullshit. But older people on the right will go to their graves following these principles.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:36 PM (lijkE)

64 I'm no scientist and I don't play one on tv but I do know that kids today are fatter and sicker than when I was a kid and it didn't happen by magic. And I have as much faith in our medical empire as I do the legal profession and government. There are good people in every walk of life but on the whole the medical profession has become another bloated bureaucracy beholden to big bucks.

I'll judge RFK by his results.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 12:36 PM (LkLld)

65 Vaccines have made massive wealth for the pharma companies, and indemnification has made them richer and immune from prosecution for any slight harm (or actually any harm) that might arise from their use.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 12:37 PM (D7oie)

66 31 Why should I trust the "acceptable range" for my A1C?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:22 PM (dg+HA)

I don't know why you would. There's a lot not to trust. The latest is starting pre-teens on statins is one example.

Posted by: Night lifted.... at March 30, 2025 12:37 PM (2NXcZ)

67 "I said in my announcement speech that I have so many skeletons in my closet that if they could all vote, I could run for king of the world."
_RFK JR.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 12:37 PM (yQMZb)

68 I asked my Dr about the pneumonia vax recently, saying that I trusted him because he never pushed the Covid vax (suggested, never pushed).

He seemed a little embarrassed by my comment. Perhaps because nobody ever evaluated trusting his advice out loud, in front of an NP, no less. New era, doc.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 30, 2025 12:38 PM (wBaIH)

69 I was ok with rushing the covid vaccine a bit for the stated 2020 purpose of having it available for medically frail seniors, where the disease risk was high.

And then the deep state installed Biden, the FMN began pushing the vaccine for everybody and that wasn't selling enough vaccines to please the greedy so they had Biden do the mandate. One good thing out of that for me; I had procrastinated on the vaccine by my nature, then was becoming less likely to take it because WTF, why is the FNM pushing so hard for it? and then the mandate kicked on my "oh hell no, will I let that senile pervert make any medical decision for me" instinct. I submitted religious exemption paperwork when my work declared we are a federal contractor and thus under the mandate.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 12:38 PM (CKOCg)

70 I’m more libertarian than I use to be, pare these entities down 75%., at least.

I choose to interpret this phrase as "cut 'em off at the knees."

Posted by: Oddbob at March 30, 2025 12:38 PM (/y8xj)

71 One argument I've seen is that its associative mating.

In the old days the math genius would get a good job and marry a woman who was pretty, or a good home maker, or just the daughter of a friend of the family.

Now? Math/computer nerds marry math/computer nerds. So if there is some recessive gene that enhances that sort of intelligence but if two copies are gained causes issues with other types of intelligence it could explain at least some of the changes.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:33 PM (t0Rmr)

That's an interesting hypothesis. It could also be something in the opposite direction... in that there is more DIVERSITY in the gene pool.

Think about all the Poles and Italians and British and french and African and Asian and on and on and on folks who are now getting access to each other.

In the before times, if you were of one ethnic/national group, you were almost certainly going to mate with someone else from your group.

Now, most of us are mutts. Could that be a factor? I sure as hell don't know.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:39 PM (QOpc8)

72 I suspect if you really were to break it down

Vaccines available 30+ years ago: 80% of positive impact

Vaccines available 20+ years ago: 90% of positive impact

Vaccines available 10+ years ago: 100% of positive impact

Total of vaccines available now (including the clot shot): 60% of positive impact

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:39 PM (t0Rmr)

73 Saw this morning that Web MD still says kids should be Fake Vaxed

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2025 12:40 PM (2ovuE)

74 I don’t have the training or knowledge to know about vaccines but I can black box vaccine results.

When I was a child there was maybe one or trip kids that had a peanut allergy in an entire school. Now you can’t bring peanuts to school because there are so many. The sheer number of all vaccines kids have to take is staggering and I know there have to be bad interactions. Maybe fewer like e we used to take. The big ones.

Another thing we got a new vizsla puppy in 2021 and her puppy vaccines had a Covid vax in them. We had seven vizslas and this girl has terrible skin allergies that no other one had I put that to that Covid vax. BTW I it was in a big combo shot out I wouldn’t have allowed it.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at March 30, 2025 12:40 PM (17s+e)

75 HPV? Why? Protecting children from a sexually transmitted disease?
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If they aren't immunized as children the vaccine doesn't work. Then later on down the years it can negatively affect women and men in several different ways. Ask Michael Douglass.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (yQMZb)

76 What's a "confessional hearing?" Is that a Catholic thing?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (dg+HA)

77 Now, most of us are mutts. Could that be a factor? I sure as hell don't know.

Europe's demographic break down was very similar to America* before the recent waves of immigration started. They started mass immigration a little later then us, and it appear intermarry less with their immigrants, so if that was it you'd see a big decline here first (like you can see in height)

*Absent black Americans who did not intermarry with white Americans much at the time.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

78 "I said in my announcement speech that I have so many skeletons in my closet that if they could all vote, I could run for king of the world."
_RFK JR.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 12:37 PM (yQMZb)

Back when he was a Democrat, they DID vote!

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (QOpc8)

79 Sure, but someone in the grocery store, or Walgreens who comes in wearing a mask while they're picking up their cold/flu medicine, the mask does reduce how much creeping crud they're spreading.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:32 PM (QOpc


Only if it's a fresh mask they've been wearing for less than 15 minutes. After that point it becomes a biohazard and they are exhaling even more germs than they would without a mask.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (Sf2cq)

80 Even in the before times when I wasn’t black pilled I never took the flu shot. My thinking was I get the flu, I get the flu. No big deal.

And oddly enough I’ve never had the flu. At least I don’t think I have. Maybe I did and it wasn’t really a big deal.

Either way the flu shot is not needed.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (lijkE)

81 I think big agriculture has played a part in the rise of “autism.”

There is a while lot of crap in our food they don’t allow anywhere else.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 30, 2025 12:42 PM (mT+6a)

82 Vaccines are known to cause fevers in some toddlers and if parents are not adequately warned and watchful for fever and take whatever steps needed to get a too high temperature down pronto that in itself will cause brain problems for some kids.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 12:42 PM (CKOCg)

83 So what's causing all the autism? Don't tell me it's just misdiagnoses. Something big is happening out there. Everybody knows some kid who is just not right mentally. I know many. I never saw kids like this growing up in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by: Victoria from Roseville, CA at March 30, 2025 12:30 PM (Y03RW)

I don't think you realize how much money is being made by doctors and drug companies from diagnoses of mental abnormalities.

Of course they're being over-diagnosed.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:42 PM (g8Ew8)

84 "I said in my announcement speech that I have so many skeletons in my closet that if they could all vote, I could run for king of the world."
_RFK JR.


At one of his confirmation circuses hearings, some D was haranguing asking him if he had ever harassed a woman. I so wanted him to just silently point to the "Kennedy" on the name plate in front of him.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 30, 2025 12:42 PM (/y8xj)

85 Mrs. F. thinks both RFK is crazy and also that the MMR vaccine triggered Boy F.'s autism.

I disagree.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 30, 2025 12:43 PM (RIvkX)

86 ...because even if he is mostly wrong about traditional vaccines (they don't cause autism)...


I feel the traditional vaccines are fine but in Washington State, the doctors almost demand a new parent get their kids 18 different immunizations by the age of two.
This is dangerous.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 12:43 PM (W/lyH)

87 18-1 your observation tracks with reality - expansion of human life span, historically, is mostly (and unsurprisingly) mostly from reduction of infant and youth mortality, with enteric (water-borne) disease being the main factor in that.

Clean drinking water will never be surpassed as the largest factor in raising human life expectancy, statistically all the leverage was in reducing mortality in the young. Infant mortality might have some different factors, not sure. But safe potable water is the main advance in public health in human history.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 12:43 PM (1m82a)

88 I no longer get a flu shot every year and I’ve declined the shingles vaccine even after experiencing an unpleasant bout of shingles. No more trust
Posted by: Joe Walsh


Same here and my doctor says he is seeing more and more people refusing the flu shot because of the bull$hit they pulled with mandated covid shots. I was also part of that big swine flu vaccine with the Army back in the 70s. It knocked me into the dirt for 4 days. It was all I could do to make it to the bathroom. Lord knows what they stuck in that mess, all I know is it killed a bunch of soldiers before they called a halt to it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 30, 2025 12:44 PM (e5NfL)

89 Europe's demographic break down was very similar to America* before the recent waves of immigration started. They started mass immigration a little later then us, and it appear intermarry less with their immigrants, so if that was it you'd see a big decline here first (like you can see in height)

*Absent black Americans who did not intermarry with white Americans much at the time.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

I would have suspected our poopulation was much more heterodox than Euroland's for at least a century.

Are you saying it wasn't?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:44 PM (QOpc8)

90 Thx CBD, caught part of someone at a confessional hearing saying that since approximately 1992 no double blind testing has been done on vaccines. Most is allegedly done based on computer models. . Anyone else hear this?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 30, 2025 12:35 PM (2ZThz)


Yes, and there is no real tracking of reported vaccine injuries. The VAERS system is catching only a small portion due to the manner of its creation.

the studies are supposed to be done by the pharma companies, and they only do short term studies on immediate toxicity.
what we have at the moment are studies on both "did the patient catch whatever he was inoculated for" and all cause mortality.
Those are interesting because some can be shown not to work, some are shown as actual sources for outbreaks, and some have odd effect on general health and all cause mortality.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 12:44 PM (D7oie)

91 I used to discount 'vaccines cause autism'. But when they are telling parents to start immunizing at freaking 2 months and CBD just stated that medicine does not yet know how infant immune systems respond to vaccines? Maybe these vaccines are causing autism in .x percent of infants getting them.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 12:44 PM (CKOCg)

92 for the first year of life, the infant has immunity passed to the babe... FROM THE MOTHER!

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Um. More like ~ 3 months. Passive immunity from the mother is in the form of circulating antibodies from the mother's bloodstream that cross the maternal-fetal barrier into the placenta and thence to the baby. Circulating antibodies have a half-life of maybe six weeks and are largely gone from the baby's bloodstream by 3 months. The baby's immune system does not 'learn' how to make its own antibodies from the mother. That requires exposure to antigens out in the world.

NOTE: Some passive immunity is passed to the baby via colustrum in early breast milk.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 12:45 PM (/iMjX)

93 I've stood in those Army lines somewhere around 12 times. My first flu shot nearly killed me. Haven't had any shots since.
My stance on the covid shot was "I'll wait 'til they finish giving it to rats then I'll think about it."
Then they skipped the rats and used the population instead.
I wasn't playing regardless of the consequences.
The Army experimented on me with the Anthrax "vaccine", long term exposure to Lariam... some shot called Plague and there was no way I was playing lab rat again.

Posted by: Reforger at March 30, 2025 12:45 PM (xcIvR)

94 3 things the right refuses to let go of

1. We have to be the worlds policeman
2. Tax cuts for billionaires is a good thing
3. Always listen to the experts


Bullshit. On this blog I doubt that anyone believes that. I certainly do not. But your concern is concernly concerningly noted and concerned.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at March 30, 2025 12:46 PM (17s+e)

95 I would like to see data relating to how long a woman was on birth control pills and autism.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 30, 2025 12:46 PM (keLsF)

96 "Clean drinking water will never be surpassed as the largest factor in raising human life expectancy,..."

That, and the Bass-O-Matic 76.

Posted by: Dan Akroyd at March 30, 2025 12:46 PM (dg+HA)

97 The wildest part of all this?

When Autism started getting linked to vaccines it was AWFLs leading the charge. The same AWFLs who would put you in a concentration camp today for not getting the clot shot.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:47 PM (lijkE)

98 Of course they're being over-diagnosed.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:42 PM (g8Ew

I believe there is plenty of evidence it's both over-diagnosed AND becoming more prevalent.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:47 PM (QOpc8)

99 Bullshit. On this blog I doubt that anyone believes that. I certainly do not. But your concern is concernly concerningly noted and concerned.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at March 30, 2025 12:46 PM (17s+e)

Dude this post is literally Number 3

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:48 PM (lijkE)

100 I used to discount 'vaccines cause autism'. But when they are telling parents to start immunizing at freaking 2 months and CBD just stated that medicine does not yet know how infant immune systems respond to vaccines? Maybe these vaccines are causing autism in .x percent of infants getting them.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 12:44 PM (CKOCg)
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And don't get me started at the INGREDIENTS lists on a box of cereal. You know the ones...double chocolate sugar bombs marketed directly towards children.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 12:48 PM (W/lyH)

101 I know of a vaccine that keeps melanoma in remission and has the happy side effect of the recipients never getting respiratory infections.

But, the vaccine is cheap to produce, hasn't shown any adverse reactions, and is effective, so you can't have it unless you are admitted to a special, exclusive study.

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at March 30, 2025 12:48 PM (Sf2cq)

102 I was forced to take the shot by the State, and the State forced me to force others.

This guilt I will bear a lifetime.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 30, 2025 12:49 PM (RIvkX)

103 57
'So what's causing all the autism? Don't tell me it's just misdiagnoses.

One argument I've seen is that its associative mating.'

If there is such a trend I would look more to the average age the parents are when they have kids currently vs. in the 70s and 80s.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 30, 2025 12:50 PM (3wi/L)

104 {{{ Emmie }}}

Which one is that?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 30, 2025 12:50 PM (u82oZ)

105 Clean drinking water will never be surpassed as the largest factor in raising human life expectancy,..."

That, and the Bass-O-Matic 76.
Posted by: Dan Akroyd at March 30, 2025 12:46 PM (dg+HA)

The Bass-O-Matic has saved my life several times. God bless the Bass-O-Matic.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:50 PM (g8Ew8)

106 Auto cucumber is treating me like a red haired step son today.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at March 30, 2025 12:50 PM (17s+e)

107 I would have suspected our poopulation was much more heterodox than Euroland's for at least a century.

Are you saying it wasn't?
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:44 PM (QOpc
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In some parts of Seattle you can certainly smell the poopulation.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 12:51 PM (W/lyH)

108 From the Bee.

Touching: Libs Spell Out 'Coexist' With Burning Teslas

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Soldier of the Persistence at March 30, 2025 12:52 PM (L/fGl)

109 I don't think you realize how much money is being made by doctors and drug companies from diagnoses of mental abnormalities.

Of course they're being over-diagnosed.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:42 PM (g8Ew


This does not include, of course, the explosion of the number of totally incapacitated individuals who are non-verbal, stimming, wearing diapers, and unable to function without intense support.

Even without taking out the marginal ones, the increase of the severely affected individuals is larger.
To dismiss it as, "well it is not so bad, my cousin's kid is weird" is a disservice to the families of the severely affected.

In a culture where "get a colonoscopy and quit tobacco because cancer is bad" is the most moral thing evar it is dishonest to say "Autism is rare and over-diagnosed, we shouldn't waste time looking into ways to prevent it"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 12:52 PM (D7oie)

110 I'd like to see more permission for "off label" use of medicines. And, of course, allow the safe and effective drug Ivermectin to be used widely again.

Posted by: JM in Illinois at March 30, 2025 12:53 PM (PU21p)

111 If these vaccines are all "safe, effective, [and] lifesaving" why do the manufacturers enjoy immunity from legal liability for each and every one? Why do you have to prove fraud or criminal conduct for liability to attach? Would you use a child safety seat that you couldn't sure the manufacturer over if your kid catapults out of it in a crash? Get rid of that protection, and then I'll consider listening to all the bleating about "safe and effective."

Posted by: Juris Doctor Doom at March 30, 2025 12:54 PM (48oWz)

112 So, there was a small riot in downtown Chicago on Friday night, and a small riot at a shopping mall in Pentagon City, Virginia on Saturday night.
In March.
I'm sensing another "summer of love" gearing up.
Posted by: The ARC of History


*************

Official Opening Day for Major League Rioting is April 5. Molotov throwers and bullhorn operators reported early and some exhibition riots are being held at some of the spring training facilities. Season tickets are still available. Antifa is the pre-season favorite as BLM has lost some key players to free agency.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 12:54 PM (/iMjX)

113 >>>Of course they're being over-diagnosed.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
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From a different perspective; They are being re-defined. A new definition of the parameters of ADHD and the PTB have now legally proscribed a normal kid as hyperactive in need of medication. They redefined homosexuality from a psychological disorder to A OK.

Once that happens the Dr.s either get in line or get in trouble.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 12:55 PM (yQMZb)

114 Remember the claim was that the clot shot reduced your changes of getting COVID by 99%. This was based on falsified data. And everything Biden did from the mandates to the rushed approvals was based on these faked trials.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2025 12:28 PM

As far as I know, to this day, there is no COVID vaccine. The only reason anyone can call the clot shots a vaccine is because the FDA changed the definition of vaccine in September of 2021 from "produce immunity" to "produce protection".

None of the COVID "vaccines" produce immunity. That was known from the start. So they changed the definition of vaccine. When they did this, they started calling the flu shot the flu "vaccine".

https://bit.ly/3FTrJeT

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 30, 2025 12:55 PM (P5BPp)

115 Um. More like ~ 3 months. Passive immunity from the mother is in the form of circulating antibodies from the mother's bloodstream that cross the maternal-fetal barrier into the placenta and thence to the baby. Circulating antibodies have a half-life of maybe six weeks and are largely gone from the baby's bloodstream by 3 months. The baby's immune system does not 'learn' how to make its own antibodies from the mother. That requires exposure to antigens out in the world.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 12:45 PM (/iMjX)

Partial correction then, first, breastfeeding babies will likely have extended periods of immunity from their mother, and infants will continue to have SOME immunity from microbes for much of the first year. It's not as simple as "it lasts this long."

But the statement I made was not exactly right, because the emphasis was in the wrong direction. The speaker was essentially advocating for pediatric visits in the first year, and was using the vaccines as a REASON for parents to bring their children in. Even though for SOME period of time in that first year, some of those vaccine were basically useless.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:55 PM (wvpq/)

116 {{{NaCly}}}

Cancer vaccine that can't get approval:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c0nx6aBpUj4

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at March 30, 2025 12:56 PM (Sf2cq)

117
And don't get me started at the INGREDIENTS lists on a box of cereal. You know the ones...double chocolate sugar bombs marketed directly towards children.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 12:48 PM (W/lyH)

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But that's our favorite cereal!

Posted by: Calvin and Hobbes at March 30, 2025 12:56 PM (THqo5)

118 "Antifa is the pre-season favorite as BLM has lost some key players to free agency."

Fags For Palestine is this season's sleeper team.

Posted by: Place your bets now at March 30, 2025 12:57 PM (dg+HA)

119 'So what's causing all the autism? Don't tell me it's just misdiagnoses.

One argument I've seen is that its associative mating.'

If there is such a trend I would look more to the average age the parents are when they have kids currently vs. in the 70s and 80s.


I would not be surprised to find that both are a factor.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 12:57 PM (xCA6C)

120 When Autism started getting linked to vaccines it was AWFLs leading the charge. The same AWFLs who would put you in a concentration camp today for not getting the clot shot.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:47 PM (lijkE)


a) false
b) false equivalence
c) even terrible people have good ideas, just like really good people have terrible ideas.
c) screaming NAZIS THOUGHT OF THIS BURN ALL NAZIS AND THEIR WORKS is not really a long term plan of action that accomplishes anything other than divert people through bonfires. And that is the sort of thing that Nazis do

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 12:57 PM (D7oie)

121
In a culture where "get a colonoscopy and quit tobacco because cancer is bad" is the most moral thing evar it is dishonest to say "Autism is rare and over-diagnosed, we shouldn't waste time looking into ways to prevent it"
Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 12:52 PM (D7oie)

I didn't say there was no autism or that we should poo poo those who genuinely have it. I said it was way over-diagnosed.

My advice to you would be, Always follow the money.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 12:58 PM (g8Ew8)

122 I've mentioned before that I work in atmos. science. That was a good earlier life lesson not to 'just trust the experts.' These climate scientists are not committing deliberate fraud; they have first fooled themselves as I think Feynman might say. They have no concept that maybe because the federal grants for climate research were 90% or more tilted towards 'find AGW' for the past 30 years or so, they found what they were systematically looking for instead of just developing better understanding of the complex climate system.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 12:58 PM (CKOCg)

123 If there is such a trend I would look more to the average age the parents are when they have kids currently vs. in the 70s and 80s.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 30, 2025 12:50 PM (3wi/L)

Yes, that would be another interesting line of study.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:59 PM (wvpq/)

124 Muldoon, some time ago you shocked and discouraged me when you provided a link to what I think was the pediatrics' assoc. schedule of recommended vaccines for kids. It was a page long. To my seat-of-the-pants common sense reasoning, insane.

I can't imagine any statistically proper study would show any overall benefit to the health of our young population from the vaccine list quadrupling since the early 70s. But maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 12:59 PM (1m82a)

125 Passive immunity from the mother is in the form of circulating antibodies from the mother's bloodstream that cross the maternal-fetal barrier into the placenta and thence to the baby.

Soooo....what you're saying is that maternal antibodies are illegal aliens?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 12:59 PM (xCA6C)

126 I've mentioned before that I work in atmos. science. That was a good earlier life lesson not to 'just trust the experts.' These climate scientists are not committing deliberate fraud; they have first fooled themselves as I think Feynman might say. They have no concept that maybe because the federal grants for climate research were 90% or more tilted towards 'find AGW' for the past 30 years or so, they found what they were systematically looking for instead of just developing better understanding of the complex climate system.

Concur. People find it very easy to fool themselves when there's money at stake.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:01 PM (xCA6C)

127 Sorry, but RFK Jr is not a lunatic or wrong about vaccines.

Posted by: BonnieBlue at March 30, 2025 01:01 PM (m5qlK)

128 I will never ever ever comply with any government mandate

just want to get that out there

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I don't care. at March 30, 2025 01:02 PM (AOsQT)

129 When you turn pharmacology into a meat grinder, it doesn't much matter if there's overdiagnosis or missed opportunities for real research into real cures for the truly ill.

They're both ground up just as fine, just the same.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 30, 2025 01:03 PM (KtIIi)

130 I've mentioned before that I work in atmos. science. That was a good earlier life lesson not to 'just trust the experts.' These climate scientists are not committing deliberate fraud; they have first fooled themselves as I think Feynman might say. They have no concept that maybe because the federal grants for climate research were 90% or more tilted towards 'find AGW' for the past 30 years or so, they found what they were systematically looking for instead of just developing better understanding of the complex climate system.

Do you pay income taxes?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:03 PM (xCA6C)

131 Whoops.

I will never ever ever comply with any government mandate

just want to get that out there



Do you pay income taxes?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:03 PM (xCA6C)

132 128. Really Don? I comply with the seatbelt mandate every time I drive. Now if I thought seatbelts were more likely to harm me than prevent injury if I get in an accident I would resist the mandate.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:05 PM (CKOCg)

133 "I recently took a 3000 mile cross country road trip with my trusty Bass-O-Matic. (I always call it my trusty Bass-O-Matic because I DO trust it.) And at just 3 pounds it weighs less than some of my purses.

I now feel more active than I did in my teens. And the bags under my eyes disappeared.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:05 PM (/iMjX)

134 The thing with vaccines is that as with every other medical decision, they should be a CHOICE.

Focusing on the autism nonsense is trying to shift the debate.

EVERY VACCINE has potential side effects. Every single one.

The chance and severity of the side effects are variable.

There are many, MANY vaccines that are not given to the general public because the negatives outweigh the positives. The smallpox vaccine is a perfect example.

But this idea that you are not ALLOWED to question ANY vaccine, for ANY reason, just because The Science Says So, is the exact reason this backlash is so severe.

Saying LOL VACCINES DON'T CAUSE AUTISM and acting like that ends any debate about which vaccines are actually needed, is the reason RFK has so much support.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at March 30, 2025 01:05 PM (setIA)

135 And don't get me started at the INGREDIENTS lists on a box of cereal. You know the ones...double chocolate sugar bombs marketed directly towards children.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 12:48 PM (W/lyH)

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But that's our favorite cereal!
Posted by: Calvin and Hobbes at March 30, 2025 12:56 PM (THqo5)
***

Ha!
My point exactly!
Been reading about your adventures for years and you haven't grown an jnch!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:06 PM (W/lyH)

136 I'd say the farce of "climate science" owes as much to bad science from bad scientists who don't seem to grasp the basics of the scientific method as much as from financial incentives. Hubris, power madness, and filling the need for a quasi-religious "cause" in their life sort of rounds out the list.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 01:06 PM (1m82a)

137 Hey, don't look at me. I build strong bodies twelve ways.

Posted by: Wonder Bread at March 30, 2025 01:06 PM (dg+HA)

138 They have no concept that maybe because the federal grants for climate research were 90% or more tilted towards 'find AGW' for the past 30 years or so, they found what they were systematically looking for instead of just developing better understanding of the complex climate system.
Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 12:58 PM (CKOCg)

I think part of the reason everyone chases grants is the basic understanding that there is MUCH to learn about damn near everything, so if what you're studying appears to be a worthwhile endeavor (whether you're deluding yourself or not), then why WOULDN'T you study the thing that will get you funded?

Maybe that's not the best way to do science, but it's the best way to put food on your table.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:07 PM (wvpq/)

139 130. Yes I do, but my salary is funded by the government so I can't claim to be a net funder. Of course I think that OUR group is useful, because its good to better be able to predict the weather, especially stuff like where hurricanes will go, better and a day or 2 earlier than before.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:08 PM (CKOCg)

140 Think smallpox was eradicated. Thus, no point in a vaccine.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 01:08 PM (1m82a)

141 All this talk about Man dates is getting me hot and bothered.

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at March 30, 2025 01:09 PM (PiwSw)

142 >>These climate scientists are not committing deliberate fraud; they have first fooled themselves as I think Feynman might say.

Disagree. The "science" behind manmade climate change has been so obviously corrupt for years any scientist in the field who goes along with it is either corrupt or dumb as a post. We've gone from an imminent ice age in the 70's to melting ice caps in the 80's to whenever there is any type of weather event it's because we have too many farting cows.

Science isn't about coming up with a conclusion and they massaging data to support it while hiding your work. That's fraud not science.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:10 PM (LkLld)

143 141 All this talk about Man dates is getting me hot and bothered.
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at March 30, 2025 01:09 PM (PiwSw)

Sobs

Posted by: Mr. Chasten Buttigieg at March 30, 2025 01:10 PM (VE6XX)

144 Sure, but someone in the grocery store, or Walgreens who comes in wearing a mask while they're picking up their cold/flu medicine, the mask does reduce how much creeping crud they're spreading.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 12:32 PM

Only if it's a fresh mask they've been wearing for less than 15 minutes. After that point it becomes a biohazard and they are exhaling even more germs than they would without a mask.


Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM

Not to mention, they better not have touched the mask at all when putting it on or positioning it on their face. Breathing all those germs and bacteria into their mask and then touching it with their hand/fingers to move it into position, then touching a door to enter a building, putting their hand(s) onto a shelf to pick something up, putting their hand(s) onto a counter to wait for their prescription(s), putting their hands on their credit card or cash to pay for their prescription(s) and then handing that to the pharmacist or cashier.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 30, 2025 01:10 PM (P5BPp)

145 Do you pay income taxes?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:03 PM (xCA6C)

If the government told you not to jump in a volcano, would you jump in a volcano?

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:11 PM (wvpq/)

146 Big Pharma is in the business of selling the public drugs it concocts for the afflictions it also concocts.

I've never in my life seen and heard about so many different forms of psychological conditions, rashes, allergies, etc. that suddenly are chronic and, like magic, this drug will cure/treat it.

It's like there's a disease out there that fits everyone and there's a pill for it. Even a bent dick.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2025 01:11 PM (Q4IgG)

147 It drives me nuts when I hear the question asked "what is autism?" and the answer comes back "it's a spectrum" . That tells me nothing , except that the medical establishment has no idea what it is either. I have a good friends who have a son who is autistic. He stumbles over words , doesn't look people in the eye , but he functions using ear plugs and a laptop. Good kid , but his father says the doctors have no idea what caused it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 30, 2025 01:13 PM (2ZThz)

148 If the government told you not to jump in a volcano, would you jump in a volcano?

Depends. Am I carrying the ring that binds them all?

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:13 PM (xCA6C)

149 If the government told you not to jump in a volcano, would you jump in a volcano?


I would point out that real government leadership leads by example.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:14 PM (W/lyH)

150 Think smallpox was eradicated. Thus, no point in a vaccine.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 01:08 PM (1m82a)

Hey, you know what some of those swarthy brown people are bringing across the border?

Guess!

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:14 PM (wvpq/)

151 Thing that always got me is evrry voluntary vaccine or medicine ad gives warnings except the Fake Vax.

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2025 01:14 PM (2ovuE)

152 140 Think smallpox was eradicated. Thus, no point in a vaccine.


monkeypox is most likely smallpox

also vaccines are garbage and I'm sick of arguing with my doc every appointment about flu/rsd/shingles - I'd bet someday soon he's going to "fire" me. he is ADAMANT and it's eerie.

Posted by: Black Orchid at March 30, 2025 01:14 PM (Pv3Rg)

153 I think overloading babies with too many vaccines at one time is a contributing factor. Personally I don't think any vaccines are necessary the first year to a nursing baby. And would be judicious thereafter.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 01:15 PM (yQMZb)

154 I can't imagine any statistically proper study would show any overall benefit to the health of our young population from the vaccine list quadrupling since the early 70s. But maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by: rhomboid

*********

I think the zeal to "find an effective vaccine" ran out of diseases that were prevallent, highly contagious and deadly back in the 70s or 80s. Around the early 80s we started seeing vaccines targeting:

1.meningococcall meningitis (not that common, not that contagious, bhough potentially lethal or lifelong complications)

2. HIB (Hemophilus influenzae bacteria)

3. HPV- genital warts (sexually transmitted and suspected contributor to risk of cervical cancer decades later)

and some others.

Public health officials, prompted by the CDC and the AAP pushed for policy. Pediatricians dared not deviate from the published AAP "guidelines" so the growing list became de facto "official".

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:15 PM (/iMjX)

155 I work with these people Jack. They truly believe what their massaged statistics tell them, increased CO2 causes warming, and with then when water vapor increases as a result of more ocean evaporation there will be a tipping point of positive feedback and environmental disaster. And they are not just dumb as a post, perhaps a bit 'on the spectrum' in being able to understand complex math and statistics to get temperature from some microwave instrument but not be able to step back, asses history and understand that the computer models must be missing something.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:16 PM (CKOCg)

156 If the government told you not to jump in a volcano, would you jump in a volcano?
--------
Depends. Am I carrying the ring that binds them all?
Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:13 PM (xCA6C)

Good point. Of course, 99.99% of governments in the history of mankind would tell you NOT to jump in with the ring. They'd insist you give it to them.

For safekeeping.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:16 PM (wvpq/)

157 What causes one to all of a sudden become a Francophile and move there? It gauls me to no end.

Posted by: Vaccine-Related? at March 30, 2025 01:17 PM (G5+As)

158 Even in the before times when I wasn’t black pilled I never took the flu shot. My thinking was I get the flu, I get the flu. No big deal.

And oddly enough I’ve never had the flu. At least I don’t think I have. Maybe I did and it wasn’t really a big deal.

Either way the flu shot is not needed.


Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 12:41 PM

Last time I had a flu shot was when it was required to attend high school. That was back in 1990. No flu shot since then. And have not had the flu over the past 35 years. I had mono once after freshman year of college (1995) and I have had a cold/sinusitis maybe 2-3 times over the past 25+ years.

No COVID shot for me either. Submitted a religious exemption for work when they mandated it. Last time I was sick was 10 years ago when I had a cold/sinusitis for about a week.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 30, 2025 01:17 PM (P5BPp)

159 132 128. Really Don? I comply with the seatbelt mandate every time I drive. Now if I thought seatbelts were more likely to harm me than prevent injury if I get in an accident I would resist the mandate.
Posted by: PaleRider

I don’t wear a seatbelt because the govt says I should. I wear it because it makes sense to do it. There’s no downside to it and only upside.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at March 30, 2025 01:17 PM (lijkE)

160 Don't look at me, I'm 99 44/100 percent pure.

Posted by: Ivory Soap at March 30, 2025 01:17 PM (RIvkX)

161 Gaul?

Asterix?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 30, 2025 01:17 PM (Nnyqs)

162 "I recently took a 3000 mile cross country road trip with my trusty Bass-O-Matic. (I always call it my trusty Bass-O-Matic because I DO trust it.) And at just 3 pounds it weighs less than some of my purses.

I now feel more active than I did in my teens. And the bags under my eyes disappeared.
Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:05 PM (/iMjX)
***

I'm contemplating a 3000 mile journey with Mrs D. Thinking if BurtTC's comment, are there any volcanoes between Washington State and DC?

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:18 PM (W/lyH)

163 What causes one to all of a sudden become a Francophile and move there? It gauls me to no end.
Posted by: Vaccine-Related? at March 30, 2025 01:17 PM (G5+As)
====

He should have waited for National Coming Out Day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 30, 2025 01:19 PM (RIvkX)

164 I would point out that real government leadership leads by example.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:14 PM (W/lyH)

Worth remembering, when Alzheimer Joe got his "vaccine," they showed him getting it in his left arm.

Then he went in front of the press and was rubbing his right arm.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:19 PM (wvpq/)

165 Here's what I have against the so-called "pneumonia vaccine". Pneumonia is a medical condition that can be caused by an uncounted number of viruses and bacteria; to suggest that there is one vaccine that can deal with all of them is complete idiocy. Now there may be a vaccine that protects against one of the more common causes; but if so they should be honest about what it is, and what protection it provides, rather than over-hyping the thing and claiming it protects against all pneumonia.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2025 01:21 PM (uWKK8)

166 >> I work with these people Jack. They truly believe what their massaged statistics tell them, increased CO2 causes warming, and with then when water vapor increases as a result of more ocean evaporation there will be a tipping point of positive feedback and environmental disaster.

Fair enough.

Then why are their predictions always wrong?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:22 PM (LkLld)

167 Saying LOL VACCINES DON'T CAUSE AUTISM and acting like that ends any debate about which vaccines are actually needed, is the reason RFK has so much support.
Posted by: DudeAbiding
===

I thought there was at least one vaccine where a side effect, however rare, was autism?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:22 PM (/lPRQ)

168 And for heavens sake Jack, don't lecture me on people not fooling themselves when you were mr sunshine that various investigations from 2017 through 2020 were going to result in public announcements of fraud and corruption that would rock the deep state back on their heels. People fool themselves into believing BS all the time.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:24 PM (CKOCg)

169 168 And for heavens sake Jack, don't lecture me on people not fooling themselves when you were mr sunshine that various investigations from 2017 through 2020 were going to result in public announcements of fraud and corruption that would rock the deep state back on their heels. People fool themselves into believing BS all the time.

*steps back, eyes the door*

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:24 PM (xCA6C)

170 Think smallpox was eradicated. Thus, no point in a vaccine.
Posted by: rhomboid
I was in on that, Central America in '68, we vaccinated every one in small villages.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 30, 2025 01:24 PM (vcYfq)

171 getting it in his left arm.

Then he went in front of the press and was rubbing his right arm.

*********

I used to do that so the mean kids at school would punch me in the arm that hadn't been jabbed. Clever boy I was.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:25 PM (/iMjX)

172 I think there was a link established between thimerosal, an ingredient since removed, and autism. No cite.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 30, 2025 01:25 PM (RIvkX)

173 >>And for heavens sake Jack, don't lecture me on people not fooling themselves when you were mr sunshine that various investigations from 2017 through 2020 were going to result in public announcements of fraud and corruption that would rock the deep state back on their heels. People fool themselves into believing BS all the time.

Who is the president and what is he doing right now?

Get back to me when government funded climate scientists are ever right.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:25 PM (LkLld)

174 People fool themselves into believing BS all the time.

*******

Yeah, but my cargo cult is right, not wrong like everybody elses.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:27 PM (/iMjX)

175 Think smallpox was eradicated. Thus, no point in a vaccine.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 01:08 PM (1m82a)

Hey, you know what some of those swarthy brown people are bringing across the border?

Guess!
Posted by: BurtTC
=====

Not all.

Those who go through the process for a legit immigrant visa (IV) have to go through medical exams and be cleared before being issued an IV.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:27 PM (/lPRQ)

176 Public health officials, prompted by the CDC and the AAP pushed for policy. Pediatricians dared not deviate from the published AAP "guidelines" so the growing list became de facto "official".
Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:15 PM (/iMjX)

Plus, up until a couple of months ago, American medicine was bowing to the dictates of the WHO, and the WHO was just another globalist organization set on world domination.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 01:27 PM (g8Ew8)

177 with these in the 20th century is a wonderful example of the power of science. Polio, Small Pox, Measles, Tetanus, Pertussis (Whooping Cough) and several others are a successful testament to the West's public health and scientific efforts.


I'd highly recommend watching Joe Rogan's podcast with Dr. Suzanne Humphries.

It's actually quite disturbing, the history of the polio vaxxine. Suffice to say, she makes a pretty compelling argument that the vaxxine was about as proper a use of "public health and scientific efforts "as Sidney Gottlieb's MKUktra.

Posted by: Gell-Man Amnesia at March 30, 2025 01:27 PM (p6Cox)

178 I used to do that so the mean kids at school would punch me in the arm that hadn't been jabbed. Clever boy I was.
Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:25 PM (/iMjX)

See, now part of me secretly hopes when he and Jill got behind closed doors she was punching him in places that wouldn't show.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:28 PM (wvpq/)

179 I don't read the climate studies. But when the predicitons are wrong, they go back and go "Oh, oops we didn't properly factor in the 20-30 year PDO effect" or "oh, the oceans are absorbing heat and we didn't account for that" or whatever. Yes they are rationalizing and smareter everyday people can see that, but they don't see it themselves.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:28 PM (CKOCg)

180 On why scientists are so easily fooled by "climate change"...
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 30, 2025 01:28 PM (uWKK8)

181
I work with these people Jack. They truly believe what their massaged statistics tell them, increased CO2 causes warming, and with then when water vapor increases as a result of more ocean evaporation there will be a tipping point of positive feedback and environmental disaster. And they are not just dumb as a post, perhaps a bit 'on the spectrum' in being able to understand complex math and statistics to get temperature from some microwave instrument but not be able to step back, asses history and understand that the computer models must be missing something.
Posted by: PaleRider

=================

"step back"?

You mean start with basic scientific principles? It's mind-boggling to me that these "scientists" are unaware of fundamental approaches, practices, etc.

Harvard has added Bonehead Algebra to its freshman curriculum. They should add Bonehead Science, in which students don't need to learn any facts, just methods.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 01:29 PM (lCaJd)

182 Not all.

Those who go through the process for a legit immigrant visa (IV) have to go through medical exams and be cleared before being issued an IV.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:27 PM (/lPRQ)

Good thing we didn't have a government that let everyone and anyone cross the border for 4 years.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:30 PM (wvpq/)

183 I'm contemplating a 3000 mile journey with Mrs D. Thinking if BurtTC's comment, are there any volcanoes between Washington State and DC?
Posted by: Diogenes

**********

Yellowstone Calders could go at any time.

Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:30 PM (/iMjX)

184 I am totally with you on the vaccines, some are great, but they put WAY too many into kids, and for stuff that they don't need to. I suspect that its actually harmful to protect kids from so much stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:30 PM (ecJ7k)

185 168
'that various investigations from 2017 through 2020 were going to result in public announcements of fraud and corruption that would rock the deep state back on their heels. '

He ended up being right 8 years later.
What prediction were you right about?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 30, 2025 01:30 PM (3wi/L)

186 CBD has some reading to do.
The "placebos" used in vaccine trials are either other vaccines or the vaccine preservative, not saline. There is a reason for that.
Imagine if some old flawed study showing smoking Camel cigarettes was safe. And then based on that, Camel cigarette smoking was used as the placebo in all subsequent cigarette safety studies.
And since all cigarettes are then shown to be "safe," they would claim that smoking every type of cigarette simultaneously was completely safe.
And then they would give them to children...
...and make it mandatory...
...and remove the liability.

There is also a reason they never study vaccinated vs unvaccinated, and it's not because they are trying to save money.

Posted by: Meateater at March 30, 2025 01:31 PM (KGxBg)

187 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:31 PM (ecJ7k)

188 also vaccines are garbage and I'm sick of arguing with my doc every appointment about flu/rsd/shingles - I'd bet someday soon he's going to "fire" me. he is ADAMANT and it's eerie.
Posted by: Black Orchid

Virtually all retail level doctors and nurses swear total innocence on the whole "COVID Mandate" series of crimes against humanity, "But it was the PROTOCOL!".

Until they recognize that they were functionally the 'camp guards'* the system will be broken.

*No to compare to nazis because we cannot, yet. Until we know the ultimate bodycount. The we can use the > of the < comparison.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:32 PM (/lPRQ)

189 FDA Director Dr. Peter Marks testified that the FDA’s approval of the COVID-19 vaccine may have been rushed in order to meet arbitrary mandate policies set forth by the Biden Administration.

It hasn't been that long ago, and I remember Trump's Warp Speed mandate to get a 'vaccine' out fast.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:32 PM (ecJ7k)

190 I'm contemplating a 3000 mile journey with Mrs D. Thinking if BurtTC's comment, are there any volcanoes between Washington State and DC?
Posted by: Diogenes

**********

Yellowstone Calders could go at any time.
Posted by: muldoon at March 30, 2025 01:30 PM (/iMjX)

There's something like 600 volcanos in northern Arizona.

I don't believe any of them are bubbling right now though.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:32 PM (wvpq/)

191 I'm not saying there is not corruption and I am thrilled that Trump was able to defeat the deep state in 2024. But that does not change the facts that various probes that could have exposed shit before 2020 just killed time and managed to not expose anything, but reasonable smart people in this here blog, including a mr JackStraw were stating that when so and so's investigation was concluded it would expose xxx.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:34 PM (CKOCg)

192 When two smart people marry the kids are smart, but a little less than the average between the parents.

It's called reverting to the mean

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 30, 2025 01:35 PM (wBaIH)

193 I saw an interesting article that ckaimed the polio vaccine wasn't nearly as effective as claimed. That instead the definition of polio was changed such that it wasn't diagnosed anymore. It became gullian barer syndrome etc. A friend of mine got gb 3 months after a booster. He doesn't think it was related, but I'm a vaccine skeptic now. I know as many people who had life changing reactions to the covid vaccine (including deaths) as people i know who died from covid.

Posted by: Tom at March 30, 2025 01:35 PM (4mhi+)

194 Dr. Kildare and King of the Miniseries Richard Chamberlain has passed away at age 90. Complications of a stroke.

Posted by: Tuna at March 30, 2025 01:36 PM (lJ0H4)

195 interplay between mRNA and the coronavirus spike protein

We've got a fallback plan.

Posted by: Ben Kingsley's Napalm ready glove box at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (FhXTo)

196 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:31 PM (ecJ7k)

Fluoride kept my teeth pretty much cavity free until, you know, they stopped putting it in the water.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (g8Ew8)

197
"And if traditional vaccine development takes years, but we have a new and mostly untested way to create vaccines quickly, then why the hell not!"...???

Because the time factor is a necessary part of the clinical trial regime. That's why.

5 years for animal trials and 5 years for human trials in case there is a synergistic effect with other drugs and foods/food additives plus the knock-on effect of undermining the recipient's health with unknown side effects.

The 9 month "clinical trial" for the Covid Not-a-Vaccine was glaringly not enough.
That alone was a major red flag.

Posted by: Speller at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (pSotA)

198 It's all bullshit, Jerry.
It's all bullshit.

Posted by: Case at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (OrSPY)

199 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (SXxzC)

200 194 Dr. Kildare and King of the Miniseries Richard Chamberlain has passed away at age 90. Complications of a stroke.
Posted by: Tuna at March 30, 2025 01:36 PM (lJ0H4)

One day before his 91st birthday.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:38 PM (4XwPj)

201 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:31 PM (ecJ7k)

Fluoride kept my teeth pretty much cavity free until, you know, they stopped putting it in the water.


There are now some rumors / reports / claims that fluoride lower IQ. No, I have no idea how well sourced the are.

Also, that it causes communism.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:38 PM (xCA6C)

202 194

I thought he was already dead.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 30, 2025 01:38 PM (3wi/L)

203 I don't believe any of them are bubbling right now though.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:32 PM (wvpq/)


*Looks at road map*
Damn!

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (W/lyH)

204 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

My grandmother was absolutely convinced that fluoride in the water was a communist plot.

Posted by: Tuna at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (lJ0H4)

205 Posted by: Tom at March 30, 2025 01:35 PM (4mhi+)

.....

It's pretty well accepted by reasonable people that the greatest factor in defeating polio wasn't the vaxxine, it was improvements in sanitation.

The polio rates had already dropped significantly before the vaxxine was ever even developed.

At this point, only history deniers challenge this.

Posted by: Gell-Man Amnesia at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (p6Cox)

206 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025

Does she want to see your etchings? You should ask!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (4XwPj)

207 My word she's pretty.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (SXxzC)

208 Doctor's and vaccines are no longer in my circle of trust.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (/U5Yz)

209 Dr. Kildare and King of the Miniseries Richard Chamberlain has passed away at age 90. Complications of a stroke.

That guy was ridiculously handsome. He used up the handsome quotient for, like, 15 other guys.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:40 PM (xCA6C)

210 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025

Does she want to see your etchings? You should ask!
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (4XwPj)

Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (SXxzC)

211 Grandma Mayhem. How's that baby boy ?

Posted by: Ben Had at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (keLsF)

212 or "oh, the oceans are absorbing heat and we didn't account for that" or whatever. Yes they are rationalizing and smareter everyday people can see that, but they don't see it themselves.
Posted by: PaleRider

Heh, back c. 1990 I was playing round with some big global energy equations and this idea of global cooling/heating and the oceans were the 2nd biggest factor, the big ball of molten rock below our feet was number 1, and the sun/outside heat was number 3.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (/lPRQ)

213 Richard Chamberlain was the king of the miniseries for a while, I am not sure I ever saw him in anything, except King Solomon's Mines.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (ecJ7k)

214 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (SXxzC)


Try harder!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (4XwPj)

215 I'm trying to give an example to just about my last remaining friend that I can talk to about stuff besides the weather, etc of the reckless waste that the DC political class has indulge in.

I saw a week or so ago a damning report about the Institute for Peace and their lavish offices, unaccountable expenses, and lack of any real value.

I can't find it anywhere. Anyone recall it and maybe knows where it is?

Posted by: pawn at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (QB+5g)

216 Smallpox inoculation goes back to the Revolutionary War; they were called scrapings. Big difference to big pharma. I had polio shots and still contracted polio [1950's].

Posted by: Brian Williams I WasThere at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (njAFV)

217 199 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (SXxzC)
She’s a mite young then.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (p4vtc)

218 Doctor's and vaccines are no longer in my circle of trust.

Unfortunately, the last 10 years have put me closer to the Unabomber "everything is a conspiracy" camp than I used to be. What, exactly, CAN we trust??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:42 PM (ecJ7k)

219 >>but reasonable smart people in this here blog, including a mr JackStraw were stating that when so and so's investigation was concluded it would expose xxx.

It was exposed. That's why we all know about it. Fixing it is taking longer than we'd all like but there is very little about what was going on we don't know.

And now the guy who was most responsible for uncovering the Russia hoax is the Director of the FBI and most who were involved have already been stripped of their security clearances and the corrupt money machine that fed much of their corruption is officially gone.

But the island I live on still has the same high water mark as it did in the 1600s when it was charted by Giovanni da Verrazzano. The ice caps not only haven't melted they are growing. Climate scientists predictions have guided much of our public policy since the 1970s when the global warming hoax was created and not single prediction they've made has come true.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:42 PM (LkLld)

220 Richard Chamberlain was such a faggot couldn't watch anything with him.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 01:42 PM (yQMZb)

221 Richard Chamberlain was the king of the miniseries for a while, I am not sure I ever saw him in anything, except King Solomon's Mines.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

He was great in the original Shogun with Toshiro Mifune.

Posted by: Tuna at March 30, 2025 01:42 PM (lJ0H4)

222 My word she's pretty.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (SXxzC)

Don't just gawk. Go over and say hello. Ask her how she's doin'.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 01:43 PM (g8Ew8)

223 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (SXxzC)

Try harder!
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (4XwPj)

Walk over and tell her you'll keep all the creeps from bothering her.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:43 PM (K6M7J)

224 Richard Chamberlain was the king of the miniseries for a while, I am not sure I ever saw him in anything, except King Solomon's Mines.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

He was great in the original Shogun with Toshiro Mifune.


He was in the Thorn Birds with peak Rachel Ward. If that wasn't enough to make him swear off the gay, there was no hope for him.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:44 PM (xCA6C)

225 199 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (SXxzC)
She’s a mite young then.
Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (

Drinking age.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:44 PM (SXxzC)

226 Archimedes

Richard Chamberlain was gay.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 30, 2025 01:44 PM (u82oZ)

227 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

It's the chlorine that screws you up.
So much so that many countries won't use it. Those are the countries where they say 'don't drink the water."

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:44 PM (/lPRQ)

228 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (SXxzC)


Do that staring thing where you look at someone and eventually they turn and look directly at you.
Then smile.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (W/lyH)

229 Northernlurkerg

Ask if her grandmother is widowed!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (u82oZ)

230 The Food and Drug Administration’s top vaccine regulator Peter Marks has resigned, citing Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s “misinformation and lies” around immunization, according to a resignation letter obtained by CNBC.

Now he can take the 5th if called to testify.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (jc0TO)

231
oh I get it
you guys are a bunch of wiseacres

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I don't care. at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (AOsQT)

232 Are we going to pretend that Jack was not fooled by various IG or DOJ or independent counsel investigations led by people that Jack assumed were honest and would get to and expose the truth 5-7 years ago?

My point is that it is pretty damn easy to fool oneself and the vast majority of climate scientists have a) been fooled by their predecessors, and b) fool themselves now and fiddle with their data instead of questioning their starting assumptions; they are not knowingly committing fraud to harm the western world.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (CKOCg)

233 Archimedes

Richard Chamberlain was gay.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Regrettably

Posted by: Tuna at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (lJ0H4)

234 I saw a week or so ago a damning report about the Institute for Peace and their lavish offices, unaccountable expenses, and lack of any real value.

ACE did a report on it a couple weeks ago:

ace.mu.nu/archives/414117.php

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (ecJ7k)

235
when the predicitons are wrong, they go back and go "Oh, oops we didn't properly factor in the 20-30 year PDO effect" or "oh, the oceans are absorbing heat and we didn't account for that" or whatever. Yes they are rationalizing and smareter everyday people can see that, but they don't see it themselves.
Posted by: PaleRider

==================

Do they continue to insist that the rest of us should take action on their predictions? Switch to windmills, declare climate change to be the #1 security threat and commence building fighter jets that run on Wesson oil, take away gas stoves, etc?

The doctor tells me I have six months to live, so I quit my job, tick a bunch of things off my bucket list, say my good-byes, and then... feel fine at six months. The doctors says "Oops, make that 18 months." Lather rinse repeat. The doctor says "Oops, make that 3 years."

I'm not going to listen to that doctor ever again.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (lCaJd)

236 222 My word she's pretty.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (SXxzC)

Don't just gawk. Go over and say hello. Ask her how she's doin'.


I imagine it going something like this:

https://is.gd/r6XykM

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (xCA6C)

237 Grandma Mayhem. How's that baby boy ?
Posted by: Ben Had
He's almost ten pounds of completely adorable! And oh my goodness, that hair! We've got a ginger!!!! He looks so much like my son did when he was born except for the red hair. The boy spawn had almost white blond hair that got darker and redder as he got older. Same as mine did. This "little" fella went full ginger from the jump! They are home now and he slept the whole time.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (4XwPj)

238 I am wearing my fedora. Perhaps she's into redneck hipsters.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (SXxzC)

239 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (SXxzC)


Try harder!
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (4XwPj)

LOL. Yeah, sometimes creepy gets the gal.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (g8Ew8)

240 Whenever Richard Chamberlain (RIP) comes up I always think of how beautiful Rachel Ward was in The Thorn Birds

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (2ZThz)

241 Northernlurkerg

Ask if her grandmother is widowed!
Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 30, 2025 01:45 PM (u82oZ)

Tell her you want to give her mom a spanking for letting her out in public like that.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:47 PM (K6M7J)

242 226 Archimedes

Richard Chamberlain was gay.


Yeah, I know. It's one of Mother Nature's more amusing little jokes.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:47 PM (xCA6C)

243 There's a young woman at the pub who looks like a super model.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025

Does she want to see your etchings? You should ask!
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:39 PM (4XwPj)

Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

Just keep staring at her with 'the look'. She'll be drawn to you.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 01:48 PM (/lPRQ)

244 Are we going to pretend that Jack was not fooled by various IG or DOJ or independent counsel investigations led by people that Jack assumed were honest and would get to and expose the truth 5-7 years ago?

I'm with you fellers

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:48 PM (ecJ7k)

245 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:31 PM (ecJ7k)

Fluoride kept my teeth pretty much cavity free until, you know, they stopped putting it in the water.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 01:37 PM (g8Ew


Dad was one of my small town's professional class, and he worked with the local dentist to implement fluoride in the local water. Dr Epple said he could tell kids who grew up locally versus the kids who grew up elsewhere because the cavities did go down after the addition. Mom's family is local, and she always claimed there was such a thing as "Willamette Valley teeth" and everyone when she was a kid had terrible teeth, and I suspect it is because the local soil lacks a number of important elements like phosphorus.
Fluoride does change enamel, AIIANM it enables phosphorous to be included in enamel but there may be some side effects for our bodies as well.
The studies that indicate that it is detrimental to kid's brains is concerning, and perhaps fluoride should just be in toothpaste and spit out, not in the drinking water

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 01:48 PM (D7oie)

246 I am wearing my fedora. Perhaps she's into redneck hipsters.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:46 PM (SXxzC)

Remember to call her M'lady.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (K6M7J)

247 I'm trying to give an example to just about my last remaining friend that I can talk to about stuff besides the weather, etc of the reckless waste that the DC political class has indulge in.

I saw a week or so ago a damning report about the Institute for Peace and their lavish offices, unaccountable expenses, and lack of any real value.

I can't find it anywhere. Anyone recall it and maybe knows where it is?
Posted by: pawn at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM


This was linked here:

Inside The Now-Shuttered Federal Agency Where Employees Lived ‘Like Reigning Kings’

https://tinyurl.com/yey62zxu

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (jc0TO)

248 Another way to get her attention is when she looks at you, lick your eyebrows.
Of course if you cannot lick your eyebrows, don't try now. It's really off-putting when all you can reach is your nose.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (W/lyH)

249 Wilt Chamberlain banged thousands of women
Richard Chamberlain gay

Life is weird

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (2ZThz)

250 ...traditional vaccines (they don't cause autism)...

You are remarkably certain about that. You have incontrovertible proof, I'm sure!

OK, then. What DOES cause autism--which has suddenly (last 20 years) become a thing? Or the prevalence of allergies, which were not "a thing" 60-75 years ago?

Posted by: dad29 at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (0C+Gl)

251 You mean start with basic scientific principles? It's mind-boggling to me that these "scientists" are unaware of fundamental approaches, practices, etc.

Harvard has added Bonehead Algebra to its freshman curriculum. They should add Bonehead Science, in which students don't need to learn any facts, just methods.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 01:29 PM (lCaJd)

If a student going into a 4 year university needs a Bonehead course - math, English, science - they should never have been admitted in the first place. Its a sign that the college or university is desperate for money, and will take anyone with a pulse.

I know they've been in place in some state schools for at least 35 years.

Having said that, a high school course that should be offered is "Critical Thinking, or How to Spot the Bullshit".

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (VNX3d)

252 Yeah, I'm slow.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 01:50 PM (jc0TO)

253 You can buy fluoride at WalMart or Amazon, ESPE, and also purchase two night mouth guards and mold them to your teeth.
Put a small stream of fluoride in each, put them on for ten minutes then do not rinse or eat for 30 minutes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 01:50 PM (yQMZb)

254 Thank you Mr. Taylor. That's it.

Posted by: pawn at March 30, 2025 01:50 PM (QB+5g)

255 Richard Chamberlain was the heartthrob of the 60s and well into the 80s. Remember we all called him Father What-a-Waste when he was in The Thornbirds.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 30, 2025 01:50 PM (3ImbR)

256 also vaccines are garbage and I'm sick of arguing with my doc every appointment about flu/rsd/shingles - I'd bet someday soon he's going to "fire" me. he is ADAMANT and it's eerie.
Posted by: Black Orchid

My doctor is the exact opposite- they are out there. I asked about shingles, he said we can talk more when I am 60-65, but right now I am healthy, I take no medications, etc. and he thinks the risk/reward is not worth it at this time. He doesn’t like the side effects of the HPV vaccine, so my daughter hasn’t gotten it. He was a big no on the Covid vaccine from the start.

Posted by: Piper at March 30, 2025 01:51 PM (p4NUW)

257 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (SXxzC)


Try harder!
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:41 PM (4XwPj)

LOL. Yeah, sometimes creepy gets the gal.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

Get that creepy on NL! I'm rooting for you!

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 01:51 PM (4XwPj)

258 Well, this could get interesting

@GrageDustin 6m
🚨 BREAKING: A group in Madison, Wisconsin is reportedly going to attempt to make a citizen's arrest of Elon Musk for “committing a felony for trying to bribe Wisconsinites to vote.”

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 30, 2025 01:51 PM (mlg/3)

259 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA


Buy her a drink. Chicks love Long Island Iced Tea in the early afternoon.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM (D7oie)

260 Fluoride is questionable in water, and again, it is risk reward. Now that it is in toothpaste and most people actually brush their teeth, it probably isn’t necessary any longer.

Posted by: Piper at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM (p4NUW)

261 BREAKING: A group in Madison, Wisconsin is reportedly going to attempt to make a citizen's arrest of Elon Musk for “committing a felony for trying to bribe Wisconsinites to vote.”

It will be amusing when they attempt to push past his security detail.

Posted by: Archimedes at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM (xCA6C)

262 >>Richard Chamberlain was the heartthrob of the 60s and well into the 80s. Remember we all called him Father What-a-Waste when he was in The Thornbirds.

He has a slightly bigger issue.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM (LkLld)

263 Craig Ferguson had a gift for making hot young women laugh by getting creepy.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (SXxzC)

264 Well, this could get interesting

@GrageDustin 6m
🚨 BREAKING: A group in Madison, Wisconsin is reportedly going to attempt to make a citizen's arrest of Elon Musk for “committing a felony for trying to bribe Wisconsinites to vote.”
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Good luck getting past Elon's security guys.

Posted by: Tuna at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (lJ0H4)

265
A group in Madison, Wisconsin is reportedly going to attempt to make a citizen's arrest of Elon Musk for “committing a felony for trying to bribe Wisconsinites to vote.”
Posted by: weft cut-loop

==============

I suppose paying people to vote a certain way is a crime, but paying them to vote, period?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (lCaJd)

266 218 Doctor's and vaccines are no longer in my circle of trust.

Unfortunately, the last 10 years have put me closer to the Unabomber "everything is a conspiracy" camp than I used to be. What, exactly, CAN we trust??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:42 PM (ecJ7
My primary care ‘provider’ wants me to be a diabetic she can’t stand it. My number is always less than 100-115. I don’t trust her or her medications. So there.

Posted by: Eromero at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (p4vtc)

267 Yeah, I know. It's one of Mother Nature's more amusing little jokes.

Like Rock Hudson, ridiculously handsome, queer as a 3 dollar bill.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (ecJ7k)

268 3 OK, smart guy, what does cause autism, and why have the numbers skyrocketed? I know there is money in it-SSDI payments and such.
Posted by: On The Spectrum For Cash

Getting SSDI for mid to high functioning autism is near impossible.

Posted by: Piper at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (p4NUW)

269 Posted by: Piper at March 30, 2025 01:51 PM (p4NUW)
~~~~~

That sounds like my doc too. We're both very lucky.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (3ImbR)

270 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (VNX3d).

Only a private HS would offer such a course,
public schools are all about making good sheeple that will go along with the ruling elite.

Posted by: PaleRider at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (CKOCg)

271 Good ridden. Sure lots of underlings also had hands in this crime against humanity
Posted by: Skip
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Fellow Travelers and quislings. Many, if not most, simply compliantly naive, following 'The Science' as authoritatively pronounced by the 'Scientists'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 30, 2025 01:54 PM (XeU6L)

272 OK, then. What DOES cause autism--which has suddenly (last 20 years) become a thing? Or the prevalence of allergies, which were not "a thing" 60-75 years ago?


I don't have to answer that.

I just have to deny it's vaccines.

Posted by: Fauci's Little AoS Bitches at March 30, 2025 01:54 PM (p6Cox)

273 No one said mumps.
If an adult male contracts mumps there is a probability of sterility.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 01:55 PM (yQMZb)

274 What DOES cause autism--which has suddenly (last 20 years) become a thing? Or the prevalence of allergies, which were not "a thing" 60-75 years ago?

Posted by: dad29 at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM



I have a theory, besides the incentive to over diagnose.

I think autism is an extreme example of having what my Mother called 'a noisy head'. Too many neurons and too many firing all the time. I think that we have essentially done too much selection for smartness, ie, too many generations of smart people marrying smart people because that is their cohort. By the third or fourth generation it is getting too crowded in the children's noggins.

That's my theory anyways.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 01:55 PM (jc0TO)

275 Having said that, a high school course that should be offered is "Critical Thinking, or How to Spot the Bullshit".
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 30, 2025 01:49 PM (VNX3d)

Or join the military.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 01:55 PM (g8Ew8)

276 Craig Ferguson had a gift for making hot young women laugh by getting creepy.

He made women laugh period and that seems to be the key to their um, well not their hearts, exactly but boy did he have those young actresses outrageously flirting with him

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:55 PM (ecJ7k)

277 I saw a doctor once in 1981.

Posted by: Ben Had at March 30, 2025 01:55 PM (keLsF)

278 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

Buy her a drink. Chicks love Long Island Iced Tea in the early afternoon.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM


Ask her if your handkerchief smells like chloroform.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 01:57 PM (jc0TO)

279 I saw a doctor once in 1981.

Unfortunately I have seen a lot of doctors lately, but yeah my policy has been "I'm not dying or missing a limb yet" for most of my life. Lately things were getting pretty miserable, so I had to check and now I wish I had not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:57 PM (ecJ7k)

280 I suppose paying people to vote a certain way is a crime, but paying them to vote, period?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Exxxxxcept he wasn't paying people to vote. He offered two awards to people who showed up to a rally. It was a raffle in essence.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 30, 2025 01:57 PM (mlg/3)

281 By the third or fourth generation it is getting too crowded in the children's noggins.

Trepanning.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at March 30, 2025 01:58 PM (hPHw6)

282 OK, smart guy, what does cause autism, and why have the numbers skyrocketed? I know there is money in it-SSDI payments and such.
Posted by: On The Spectrum For Cash


I suppose we could look for a population with a very low incidence of autism and then work out how they live differently from mine?

No, let's blame the mothers and the schools and the government, it is clear they are at fault.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 01:58 PM (D7oie)

283 I think Musk did this in 2024 at some rally before and lefties got punched down in court over it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 30, 2025 01:58 PM (mlg/3)

284
Exxxxxcept he wasn't paying people to vote. He offered two awards to people who showed up to a rally. It was a raffle in essence.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

===============

lol, the lawsuit should be good publicity and encourage more people to go to the rallies.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 01:59 PM (lCaJd)

285 "On why scientists are so easily fooled by "climate change"...

They have to give a "nod" to global warming, or they don't get funding are become outcasts. One video I saw about some island with a muddy water side attributed it to "global warming". Then later in the video they showed it was actually because of some clear cut areas on the island with erosion bringing muddy water into the ocean.

I can imagine them getting the funding by showing the "climate shange" part to the powers that be. There seem to be a lot of cases of "due to global warming" extraneous comments in such "studies". Or "ocean rise due to global warming" ... have to bend the knee to get the bucks.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2025 01:59 PM (Cus5s)

286 >>I think Musk did this in 2024 at some rally before and lefties got punched down in court over it.

Pennsylvania.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:59 PM (LkLld)

287 Yeah, I know. It's one of Mother Nature's more amusing little jokes.
-----------
Like Rock Hudson, ridiculously handsome, queer as a 3 dollar bill.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:53 PM (ecJ7k)

You don't say!

Posted by: Cary Grant at March 30, 2025 01:59 PM (QEJzX)

288 Exxxxxcept he wasn't paying people to vote. He offered two awards to people who showed up to a rally. It was a raffle in essence.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 30, 2025 01:57 PM (mlg/3)


I bet if they try to arrest him they will get excluded from the raffle.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 02:00 PM (D7oie)

289 Aaron Judge had 3 homers yesterday. He just had the ne in first inning. He's pretty good

Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 30, 2025 02:00 PM (2ZThz)

290 Blonde Morticia -

"Went to see my doctor recently.

He said 'Hey sorry, have some bad news, you've only got three months to live'.

I said doc, that's rough, wow. Oh I've got some bad news, too. I don't have enough money right now to pay your bill.

'OK, six months!'".

Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 02:00 PM (1m82a)

291 Or join the military.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
------

While in the R&D Dept. at a prominent tech company, the Director of R&D stopped by to tell me that his son was going in the Army. I just barely bit my tongue and suppressed the urge to reply, 'That's good, he'll learn more about what constitutes good leadership than many people do in a lifetime.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 30, 2025 02:00 PM (XeU6L)

292 Credit to Rodney Dangerfield of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 30, 2025 02:01 PM (1m82a)

293 My doc is Gen X. He told me to get the vax if I wanted or don't if I didn't. He said, "I'm just gonna be Switzerland on it. The health department says no questions or risk losing the license. I don't tell people they are required to take an experimental drug if they don't want to. If they do want it, they can have it. But I'm not telling them to do it."

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 30, 2025 02:01 PM (4XwPj)

294 I got dropped by my GP because I hadn't been into the office in ten years. I had to get a new doctor because my old doctor wasn't taking new patients, which I had apparently become.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 02:02 PM (jc0TO)

295 1st WORLD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at March 30, 2025 02:02 PM (2ovuE)

296 On why scientists are so easily fooled by "climate change"

My guess in that is that initially it was professional trust and a lack of time. Say you're Dr Jenkins, Biologist, and some climate guy publishes a paper in National Science Trust and its peer-reviewed. You are not a climatologist, and you don't have the time to study this, you just trust that the system works and they know what they are talking about.

But after Climaquddick proved the fraud and manipulation of data, the deleting counter data to produce the hockey stick, the refusal to share work to anyone who questions their work... a lot of them hopped off the band wagon and are more quiet about it now.

Trepanning.

Gotta let those extra thoughts out!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 02:02 PM (ecJ7k)

297 Heh. I'm really not all that creepy.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA

Buy her a drink. Chicks love Long Island Iced Tea in the early afternoon.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM

Ask her if your handkerchief smells like chloroform.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 01:57 PM (jc0TO)

Put your arm in a sling, and ask her to help you load a box into your van.

Posted by: Buffalo Bill at March 30, 2025 02:02 PM (QEJzX)

298 > What DOES cause autism....
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Maybe redefining what is autism. It just seems to me that the medical industry is in the habit of redefining what constitutes medical conditions. Lowering the bar, so to speak.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 30, 2025 02:03 PM (Q4IgG)

299 250 OK, then. What DOES cause autism--which has suddenly (last 20 years) become a thing? Or the prevalence of allergies, which were not "a thing" 60-75 years ago?

Posted by: dad29 at March 30, 2025

I don’t know what causes it, but I can tell you my story. My daughter hit all her milestones until almost 4. She walked early and well. She spoke early and well. She showed absolutely zero balance issues - in fact, she displayed a very early acumen toward rhythm and dance that we thought she may even be a phenom. And then she wasn’t. Her emotional regulation stopped and she became an angry, over reactive child. Her sensitivity to sounds, clothes, multiple people talking went into hyperdrive. She stopped singing, she stopped being able to dance, her motor skills regressed, she went from insisting on wearing flip flops and cute flats to not being able to at all because she started toe walking. She still is over reactive, but through a lot of hard work and behavioral therapy, it’s in check, but not normal. Her gate is still not normal, her fine motor skills are something we have to work at every day and her affect is not normal. There is no family history. Yet here we are.

Posted by: Piper at March 30, 2025 02:04 PM (p4NUW)

300 Catch her eye.
Immediately look a little sheepish (but not too sheepish)
Look away.
Immediately look back and think about smiling, but don't actually smile. It'll give you just the right hint of a smile without looking like you're trying to smile.
Then look away for real, pretend she doesn't exist, and talk to somebody else for a bit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 30, 2025 02:05 PM (KtIIi)

301 Boy928 was a toe walker. He is scary smart. So hopefully he snuck under the too many synapsis line.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 02:06 PM (jc0TO)

302
What causes one to all of a sudden become a Francophile and move there? It gauls me to no end.
Posted by: Vaccine-Related?


Trapped in an invisible box.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 30, 2025 02:06 PM (63Dwl)

303 I suppose paying people to vote a certain way is a crime, but paying them to vote, period?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Exxxxxcept he wasn't paying people to vote. He offered two awards to people who showed up to a rally. It was a raffle in essence.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 30, 2025 01:57 PM

I thought he was asking people to sign some pledge or petition or something regarding the Wisconsin election. And then he was giving away $1mil to one person among those who signed the pledge/petition.

Elon Musk gives $1M to Wisconsinite who signed petition opposing ‘activist judges’

https://bit.ly/4chFJ2U

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 30, 2025 02:07 PM (P5BPp)

304 synapse

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 02:07 PM (jc0TO)

305 Yet here we are.
Posted by: Piper at March
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Nicole Shanahan's story.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 30, 2025 02:08 PM (yQMZb)

306
I can imagine them getting the funding by showing the "climate shange" part to the powers that be. There seem to be a lot of cases of "due to global warming" extraneous comments in such "studies". Or "ocean rise due to global warming" ... have to bend the knee to get the bucks.
Posted by: illiniwek

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I still kind of don't get it. You spend your career pretending to work. Decades from now, when it's all over and people are diving into How This Nonsense Got Going, people will find your name on studies and papers that reveal you to have been no better than a phrenologist.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 30, 2025 02:09 PM (lCaJd)

307 The reality is that there many, safe, effective, lifesaving vaccines available, and the experience with these in the 20th century is a wonderful example of the power of science.

Yes. And also no. Those terrific vaccines also come with consequences. They're rare. But they happen. A certain number of children, a very small number, will be grievously injured by them. The odds are very much in favor of vaccination. But some tiny fraction of children will be on the wrong side of those odds. We have a whole pharma-friendly apparatus, the vaccine court, to address these unfortunate consequences. There's really no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to pharmaceuticals. Even the best drugs are going to have negative externalities. And that's without even considering the (unlikely to my mind) possibility that these vaccines are responsible for the uptick in autism diagnoses. I'd like to see us get to the same place with drugs that conservatives have slowly moved toward with laws: anytime you approve one, someone's likely to die as a a result. We should be a little more circumspect about it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at March 30, 2025 02:09 PM (cl15i)

308 Unfortunately I have seen a lot of doctors lately, but yeah my policy has been "I'm not dying or missing a limb yet" for most of my life. Lately things were getting pretty miserable, so I had to check and now I wish I had not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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This is becoming a common topic of conversation among my age demographic. I had a very good doc for 20+ years. In the aftermath of Obamacare, he took retirement. Too much paperwork, increasing patient load.

The guy that followed became known as Doogie Howser among his patients. Nice guy, probably qualified, but just unable to establish any rapport with his paients. He even grew a beard to, I think, appear a bit wizened. He took a very early 'retirement', after two years.

Latest is a forty something female. We'll see. The common complaint that I hear is 'They listen, but dont hear', or they hear, but don't listen'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 30, 2025 02:11 PM (XeU6L)

309 Not to worry...the AI doctor will see you...soon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 30, 2025 02:13 PM (XeU6L)

310
Trapped in an invisible box.
Posted by: Bertram
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Heh.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 30, 2025 02:15 PM (XeU6L)

311 Latest is a forty something female. We'll see. The common complaint that I hear is 'They listen, but dont hear', or they hear, but don't listen'.

Yeah, doc is convinced I have diabetes, and I have a lot of the symptoms, but I suspect its something... else, but similar. For example, my body stores sugar, I had like triple the normal level of Triglycerides in my system. This has been true for decades. That's not normal for diabetes.

Another oddity is that its not just sugar that gives me problems its ANY sweetener: sucralose, stevia, alcohol sugars, aspertame, it doesn't matter. Causes angina and overall weakness and full body aches if I get too much. So I just avoid it all. Docs hear me say that and shrug, then ignore it. That seems... significant to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 02:16 PM (ecJ7k)

312 "Decades from now, when it's all over and people are diving into How This Nonsense Got Going, people will find your name on studies and papers that reveal you to have been no better than a phrenologist.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

But at least you had a good paying job for many years? And your career proceeded, instead of being dropped/cancelled. idk, what will they think of "me can have babies" and the other crap decades from now? Or maybe that will be the norm in some dystopian future. heh

Posted by: illiniwek at March 30, 2025 02:16 PM (Cus5s)

313 That's good, he'll learn more about what constitutes good leadership than many people do in a lifetime.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

... and know that getting ahead relies primarily on who you blow thanwhat you know or "leadership". It's the real reason traditionally homos were not allowed in the military. Your 'son' will go far.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 30, 2025 02:18 PM (/lPRQ)

314 I got dropped by my GP because I hadn't been into the office in ten years. I had to get a new doctor because my old doctor wasn't taking new patients, which I had apparently become.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 02:02 PM (jc0TO)

I got a new gp that had a long list of specialists she wanted me to see. I told her that I felt fine and that I didn't feel like anything was wrong with me and that I wasn't going to see a specialist without a reason. She fired me.

Again, follow the money.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 02:18 PM (g8Ew8)

315 I trust specialists a lot more than general practitioners. Its been my experience that I know as much about nearly any medical topic as the basic family doctor, but the specialists are a lot better and know the Deep Secrets about their area.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 02:21 PM (ecJ7k)

316 but the specialists are a lot better and know the Deep Secrets about their area.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 02:21 PM (ecJ7k)

Hopefully.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at March 30, 2025 02:23 PM (g8Ew8)

317 "It can't happen to me or my family."

Excpet it did. To me.

I developed a "mild" case of polio from the Salk vaccine.

I couldn't walk. I had braces on both legs from when I was about 3 until I was 5 YO.

My adult body shows a visible developmental difference between my left and RHS. My RHS is much more muscular. I couldn't skip until I was in JrHS.

Bunch of other stuff.

I had a bunch of inner conflicts surface when I took my son in for his required vaccines.

I had them do it anyway.

Life is a gamble.



Posted by: pawn at March 30, 2025 02:24 PM (QB+5g)

318 I feel the traditional vaccines are fine but in Washington State, the doctors almost demand a new parent get their kids 18 different immunizations by the age of two.
This is dangerous.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 30, 2025 12:43 PM (W/lyH)



Everything in Washington State is dangerous. It's become California North. I lived there over 20 years ago and it wasn't that way. The infection started since then. I almost moved back a decade ago but didn't due to Mrs Chairborne's objections and I'm very glad we didn't.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 30, 2025 02:24 PM (XjQMV)

319 He has a slightly bigger issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM (LkLld)
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*Sigh*
Yes, from heartthrob to heartache.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 30, 2025 02:25 PM (3ImbR)

320 He has a slightly bigger issue.

Gayer than Liberace's hairdresser.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 02:29 PM (jc0TO)

321 He has a slightly bigger issue.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 30, 2025 01:52 PM (LkLld)
~~~~~

*Sigh*
Yes, from heartthrob to heartache.

Posted by: IrishEi at March 30, 2025 02:25 PM (3ImbR)



Why? What happened to him?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 30, 2025 02:30 PM (XjQMV)

322 Gayer than Liberace's hairdresser.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 02:29 PM (jc0TO)



Really? I didn't know that. I shouldn't be surprised by anything at this point. Heh.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at March 30, 2025 02:32 PM (XjQMV)

323 I also suspect that the fluoride in the water is perfectly fine if not very beneficial but I am open to persuasion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 01:31 PM

Speaking of fluoride...

Utah Bans Fluoride in Drinking Water, Leads National Trend

Utah has become the first state in the U.S. to ban fluoride in public drinking water after Governor Spencer Cox signed H.B. 81 into law. The legislation prohibits cities and communities from adding fluoride to their water systems, despite opposition from some dentists and health organizations who warn of potential medical problems. Other states, including Florida, Ohio, and South Carolina, are considering similar legislation.

https://bit.ly/42f03NG

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 30, 2025 02:34 PM (P5BPp)

324 Yeah a few states are looking at banning fluoride, my guess is that Piper is right as usual and it likely doesn't need to be in the water any longer

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 30, 2025 02:51 PM (ecJ7k)

325 Back in '97 I enrolled in a cooking school. You had to prove you had your baby shots. Since I was well into my 40's, my baby book was hard to decipher so I had to get the MMR shot again. I was annoyed but I was told to look at it as a booster, since they didn't really know how long the baby vaxes lasted.

Posted by: Petey at March 30, 2025 03:57 PM (rzwGB)

326 The first doctor to publish an article about a possible and I repeat possible, connection between the measles mumps and rubella shot and autism was Dr Andrew Wakefield. He has been excoriated as a quack (which I uncritically accepted). But after the covid debacle I decided I would go on Rumble and listen to the doctor himself.

He explains in an interview with Steve Kirsch that there were 13 authors of the original article, and it was given, not the usual three peer reviews by Lancet, but five reviews. Lancet thought it was solid enough to publish.

Then the big Pharma companies jumped all over the medical establishment, and all 13 doctors had their licenses threatened, and yanked actually. Not because the National Health Service in England had disproven anything about the article, but because it was a financial threat to the vaccine industry.

So this doesn't prove a connection, but correlation, although it isn't proof, is definitely a red flag that warrants further investigation. Which is all the original article claimed.

So before dismissing Dr Wakefield's idea out of hand, it would be good to go and listen to what the man said for himself.

Posted by: Beverly at March 30, 2025 05:27 PM (Epeb0)

327 The first doctor to publish an article about a possible and I repeat possible, connection between the measles mumps and rubella shot and autism was Dr Andrew Wakefield. He has been excoriated as a quack (which I uncritically accepted). But after the covid debacle I decided I would go on Rumble and listen to the doctor himself.

He certainly gets trashed on the googles. He is introduced as a conman and fraudster before mentioning that he was an MD.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at March 30, 2025 06:16 PM (64TDs)

328 I will let anybody wearing a hospital gown inject anything into me as long as they tell me it's a "vaccine".

Same for my tiny baby child. Inject them with whatever that shit is!

That's how brainwashed I am. Who's with me!?

Posted by: Deplorable Dave at March 30, 2025 06:33 PM (4JGHb)

329 Show me the testing done for doing all the vaccines on the schedule per the schedule. At best I believe there is testing for individual vaccines, but I doubt even that exists based on FOI requests by "the loon" RFK.

RFK is quite reasonably asking that vaccines mandated by the government be properly tested. The fact that causes such hysteria from the pharmaceutical industry implies either they don't know, or they do know and the news isn't good.

Posted by: LordAzrael at March 30, 2025 07:38 PM (j1las)

330 How can we trust ANY vaccine anymore after the scamdemic?
How do we know they aren't sneaking the covid vax into all the other vaccines?
At 72 I'll just take my chances and keep the pony paste handy

Posted by: GFxRocket at March 30, 2025 07:38 PM (JLbOp)

331 Why chickenpox? So not only do that have vaccine, they have "shingles" vaccines too.

It used to be the only people who got shingles were sourpuss "Mr. Wilson" types who hated kids. Getting exposed to kids who had had chickenpox was how you boosted your immunity to not get shingles.

Posted by: SouthCentralPA at March 30, 2025 08:37 PM (muRIc)

332

Dr. Kildare, time for your pork injection!

Posted by: W. Coyote, Esq at March 31, 2025 08:01 AM (V+5KZ)

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