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Wednesday Overnight Open Thread - March 26, 2025 [TRex]
Good evening Horde. The time has come for mid-week shenanigans of the overnight variety.
This is the Wednesday night ONT.Participants compete against each other to drive nails into a wooden stump. Each pounds a nail into the stump just enough to get it started. The nails should be at least two inches long. Each takes a turn and attempts to hit the nail. A group of four to six contestants is ideal for maximum hilarity. The winner is the first to drive their nail fully into the wood. Typically, others continue until all have pounded their nail flush with the wood. You might ask "What's the big deal? Swinging a hammer isn't that hard, even after a few drinks!" Purists increase the level of difficulty by using the claw end of the hammer rather than the head. That can be quite a task, especially after a beverage or two. Seasoned players scoff at a traditional hammer and use a special hammer made by welding a piece of round pipe onto the end of a straight piece of pipe. A solid hit requires hitting the edge of the round pipe. Difficult. It is called a "Rohrhammer" which translates to "pipe hammer." They are sold online.
Example from American contestants (note the Red Solo Cup in attendance):
A "science nerd" who wanted to collect all the elements of the periodic table could face jail time after ordering radioactive material over the internet. But Emmanuel Lidden, 24, will have to wait to learn his sentence after breaching nuclear non-proliferation laws by shipping samples of plutonium to his parents' suburban Sydney unit. Far from any intent to build something nefarious like a nuclear weapon with the material, Lidden's lawyer John Sutton described his client as an "innocent collector" and "science nerd" who had been left flipping burgers after being sacked from his job following the incident. Lidden ordered the items from a US-based science website and they were delivered to his parents' home. The seizure of the items in the hazmat incident was described as a "circus" by Mr Sutton.Sounds like P'Nut the squirrel in another form. Having said that, I'm proud to know that the United States has places that sell plutonium online. Maybe something is in the water down under? I feel dumber for having read this and now you can feel dumber too: Working towards an Australian First Nations periodic table Meanwhile, How Japan took the lead in the race to discover element 119.
Once created, element 119 will contain 119 protons - the most of any element discovered. It will sit on a new, eighth row of the periodic table, and it could be the first element to be named since 2016. Russia, China, Germany, and the US are also developing powerful experimental setups to search for elements 119 and 120. But because of a mix of geopolitics, strategy, and luck, Japan has unexpectedly taken the lead in this race to discover a new element.
Dang, that's high! pic.twitter.com/DXgG4xJzBG
— Guinness World Records (@GWR) March 24, 2025
Written correspondence can be sent to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Are you lurking? Come out and play. Wear the special safety gloves when handling the ONT and check your indicator badge for signs of extended exposure.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (u73oe)
Posted by: mindful webworker - getting closer at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (mfC4X)
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (VJZuE)
Posted by: TecumsehTea at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (Eo96p)
Posted by: Ciampino - LOLita at March 26, 2025 10:01 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:02 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:02 PM (41CYW)
Horrified. The answer to that is "horrified."
Posted by: Dr. T at March 26, 2025 10:03 PM (lHPJf)
Posted by: Ciampino - LOLita at March 26, 2025 10:01 PM (sPQoU)
Because the Rs don't want to do anything about it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 26, 2025 10:03 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Ciampino - LOLita
Any time a Judge rules something unconstitutional, the Supreme Court must IMMEDIATLY take the case to remove any ambiguity.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:04 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 26, 2025 10:04 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deporte at March 26, 2025 10:04 PM (WbaIk)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 10:05 PM (JkO4W)
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 10:05 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:06 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Pete Buttgigger at March 26, 2025 10:07 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: scampydog
Evening Scampydog. Thank you for the ONT. Please no quizzes, I haven't yet read the content. (Promises self to stop looking out the window and pay attention)
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:07 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: tankdemon at March 26, 2025 10:07 PM (SP9Wz)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 26, 2025 10:04 PM
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Doctor Deal! Good evening. The arms are just long enough to maneuver a glass full of adult beverage from the table to my mouth. Satisfactory.
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 10:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:08 PM (1hsE1)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 26, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok)
I'm sure Popeye is partying.
Posted by: tankdemon at March 26, 2025 10:08 PM (SP9Wz)
Posted by: Some Rat
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Ha. This one is from our hypoplasia armed fren, TRex. No promises that he won't have an exit quiz for us...
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:09 PM (41CYW)
And when the military decides it's too much of a hassle to be checking all those badges and pencil-whips the paperwork? Or lets the badges sit out in a trailer the summer sun for two months?
No I'm not bitter what are you talking about.
Posted by: pookysgirl hopefully never got secondary radiation exposure at March 26, 2025 10:09 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at March 26, 2025 10:09 PM (9AMBT)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 10:10 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 26, 2025 10:10 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: tankdemon
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tankdemon, was cleaning/deleting pics from my phone while on hold today and deleted about 13 screen shots of your ONT, "Sorry I'm late" comments. Laughs the second time around were just as good.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:11 PM (41CYW)
1500 lbs is a small quantity, right? Not even a ton.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 26, 2025 10:12 PM (klJTj)
A member of ALH has a story about paddle tennis he'd like someone to critique. Would you be interested in reading it?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 26, 2025 10:12 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 10:10 PM (l3YAf)
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In 1985 it was available in every corner drugstore!
Posted by: Doc Brown at March 26, 2025 10:12 PM (JkO4W)
Posted by: scampydog
Oh my! Apologies TRex! Mom didn't raise a total idiot....just a mostly one.
(First rumble of thunder from the STORM OF THE MILLINIUM!)
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:12 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: gKWVE at March 26, 2025 10:12 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: tankdemon at March 26, 2025 10:13 PM (SP9Wz)
But it's only about 10 Kilograms.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at March 26, 2025 10:13 PM (lUFok)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 26, 2025 10:13 PM (eY5jv)
What luck! I made some Tuscan Creamy Chicken thing tonight and added a few cups of spinach. It was yummy.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 10:14 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 10:14 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: Piper at March 26, 2025 10:15 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:15 PM (1hsE1)
Posted by: Dr. T at March 26, 2025 10:15 PM (lHPJf)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 10:14 PM (cYBz/)
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A few cups???
That's called a chicken Caesar salad.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 10:15 PM (JkO4W)
At just 3 years old
I have a house,
two passive incomes,
a peronal chef
and driver.
Follow me
for financial advice.
Posted by: Ciampino - Pussy money galore at March 26, 2025 10:16 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 10:16 PM (cYBz/)
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That does sound like good advice from members on this site for some reason.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: Dan Patterson at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM (Rb/C4)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM (wX56x)
Great shot of Falcon 9 up top.
Loved the Calvin & Hobbes cartooon! It was one of my favorites!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM (rxCpr)
personal
Posted by: Ciampino - Pussy more money galore at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: a dude in MI at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM (+I6Y/)
I LOL'd at the Peppa Pig jigsaw puzzle. heh.
The working group for the Indigenous Periodic table looked exactly like you would imagine.
I've played the stump game once, at an axe throwing place. I could see it as a camping thing more though. I'm sure the women are like "some nails and a stump is all it takes to keep them out of our hair and 'relatively' out of trouble?"
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 26, 2025 10:18 PM (NMT5x)
Ownership of trinitite is its own thorny legal issue. It’s not uncommon or hard to come by, but in theory it’s all stolen from Federal land..
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 10:18 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 10:18 PM (XjTSo)
If I order plutonium online, it's not my fault that it gets delivered.
Good evening, all. Hello, Jim Sunk New Dawn! (sips red wine)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 26, 2025 10:18 PM (5Iuq/)
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:11 PM (41CYW)
You guys are going to give me a big head and a Congressional level sense of entitlement.
Thank you for the wonderful compliment.I do appreciate the recognition.
Posted by: tankdemon at March 26, 2025 10:19 PM (SP9Wz)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 26, 2025 10:12 PM (0eaVi)
Sure I'll read it. My contact info is at the end of all of my ONTs
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:19 PM (1hsE1)
To correctly apply it while seated in the vehicle one should hold the hammer by its head and thrust the handle forward.
Think of a pool cue.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 26, 2025 10:19 PM (eY5jv)
Horrified. The answer to that is "horrified."
Posted by: Dr. T at March 26, 2025 10:03 PM (lHPJf)
* * * *
I wholeheartedly concur.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 26, 2025 10:19 PM (rxCpr)
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Please, the Feds have been watching this site since 2008.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 10:20 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: Tonypete
People who randomly assign the descriptor-Tuscan-into a product are usually hoity-toity types looking for affirmation and applause, or are food mongers looking to drive up the price.
Posted by: Low-Budget Lou at March 26, 2025 10:20 PM (G5+As)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 10:21 PM (JkO4W)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Newsome needs some!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 26, 2025 10:21 PM (0yvOH)
The world record stuff - well, okay mostly. There must be all kinds of dreary rules defining miniature pony. Good to see Governor Hot Wheels in the competition.
Think the keg toss should have included catching it. Or chugging it.
😱
Posted by: mindful webworker - goosh at March 26, 2025 10:22 PM (mfC4X)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2025 10:23 PM (63Dwl)
Nah. Look at the arrow head. They are going to have to use a real one if they want to achieve Darwin status.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at March 26, 2025 10:24 PM (klJTj)
Posted by: Low-Budget Lou
I rate this comment as: True.
Proof positive that the world has gone to hell is that pasta and polenta, instead of remaining inexpensive peasant food, are now expensive.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 10:25 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM
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Good evening and thank you. Will a high five be sufficient?
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 10:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
A real man hammers in stump nails with his forehead.
I'm glad to see a German activity that doesn't involve a shit fetish, or invading other countries.
(Stalin, 1941, after he quit whimpering on the floor of his office; "I'm not gonna take this shit!")
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at March 26, 2025 10:26 PM (QwK6F)
Posted by: Dr. T
Working with tarlov would make me homicidal.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:26 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2025 10:26 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Ciampino - LOLita at March 26, 2025 10:01 PM (sPQoU)
When they make stupid decisions, they should have to wear a red robe with red face paint. Then we can call the rouge judges, for wearing red and playing communist.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 26, 2025 10:27 PM (VNX3d)
Years ago I went to a party where one of the appetizers was candied bacon. It was all crispy and sugary, I think with brown sugar. It was yummy.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2025 10:28 PM (0Htd1)
I agree, but that will probably get me into ONT trouble again.
The best Bugs Bunny cartoons feature Daffy, Marvin and Elmer.
YMMV
Posted by: TecumsehTea at March 26, 2025 10:28 PM (Eo96p)
Working with tarlov would make me homicidal.
Posted by: Some Rat
There was no lefty on The Five today.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 26, 2025 10:28 PM (63Dwl)
The world record stuff - well, okay mostly. There must be all kinds of dreary rules defining miniature pony. Good to see Governor Hot Wheels in the competition.
Think the keg toss should have included catching it. Or chugging it.
😱
Posted by: mindful webworker - goosh at March 26, 2025 10:22 PM (mfC4X)
*steps in front of Dino*
Don't you be starting trouble with my hombre. You gotta go through me first!
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:28 PM (1hsE1)
You bastard!
We got some rain and thunder for about 20 minutes. Seems to be done now.
Weather panic pron is so stupid.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 26, 2025 10:28 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal Mad Scientist at March 26, 2025 10:29 PM (l3YAf)
That "puzzle" might make a cute gift for a vegetarian.
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2025 10:30 PM (0Htd1)
status/1905062827418669364
Posted by: exdem13
X wouldn't let me see it, but xcancel worked. Yay.
Camerawork was pretty shoddy. Want to see the security guards swinging into action.
Posted by: mindful webworker - first, get a large towel... at March 26, 2025 10:30 PM (mfC4X)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 10:16 PM (cYBz/)
/sends Hil Clinton's email address...
I hear this is where to shop...
Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 26, 2025 10:30 PM (QAkQ3)
I would pay money for Gutfeld to say, "Jessica, you ignorant slut!" just one time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 10:31 PM (w6EFb)
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Hi, Bob!
[waves at Bob from the NSA]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 26, 2025 10:31 PM (/tzYP)
You wouldn't eat that cinnamon bacon?
We both know you would.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 26, 2025 10:31 PM (RIvkX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.
Ah, I watch the 9p PDT version.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:32 PM (+VovS)
You know how greyhounds chase a rabbit...
Yeah, they should have been chased by a guy in a SMOD costume.
Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 26, 2025 10:32 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 26, 2025 10:33 PM (0eaVi)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 26, 2025 10:33 PM (RIvkX)
[waves at Bob from the NSA]
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 26, 2025 10:31 PM (/tzYP)
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Rumor has it that Bob was told to return to the office or give up his job.
And that was the end of Bob.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (JkO4W)
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (+VovS)
Thanx for ONT😘!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (0ohAJ)
I would pay money for Gutfeld to say, "Jessica, you ignorant slut!" just one time.
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That would be mighty!
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (XjTSo)
Thanx for ONT😘!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM
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COMM! Good evening!
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:15 PM (1hsE1)
I used to enjoy chatting with female bartenders. A lot.
Days gone buy.
Posted by: javems at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (8I4hW)
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 26, 2025 10:17 PM
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Good evening and thank you. Will a high five be sufficient?
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 10:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Of course!
*reaches my arm upward in preparation for high-five*
*discovers the two-foot gap between the top of my hand and TRex's paw*
*raises both of my hands and yells "yipee!*
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 26, 2025 10:35 PM (rxCpr)
No I'm not bitter what are you talking about.
Posted by: pookysgirl hopefully never got secondary radiation exposure at March 26, 2025 10:09 PM (Wt5PA)
The college professor who lived at the end of my street had worked at Hanford during the war driving a watering truck to keep the dust down on the streets at Hanford sote (He was medically discharged from the USAAF) He said one day he saw a bunch of guys in white coveralls working at one of the main building, and it was the most interesting thing going on at the time, so he kept circling back to see what had happened.
Apparently that building was the reactor and the white coveralls were loading it. The next day when he reported at the front gate, his dosimeter was missing from the check in.
They clerk in charge told him his previous one was overexposed, and they had to issue him a new one.
So they did and he kept working.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2025 10:35 PM (D7oie)
Oh my stars. AI is scary! lol.
Posted by: Piper at March 26, 2025 10:35 PM (pZEOD)
I disagree. Despite not being one, it does appear to be one.
Maybe it appears different to an actual T Rex? More like kindergarteners at recess?
Posted by: mikeski at March 26, 2025 10:36 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at March 26, 2025 10:35 PM
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Elegant solution. Logistically sufficient, even. Yipee!
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 10:37 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:37 PM (+VovS)
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I want my IQ points back.
What an inane article. But then read the bio for the reporter!!
Also misses the point in having a periodic table - PERIODIC.
Natives will miss most of the elements as dreaming/philosophy is not going to detect argon or polonium.
Ochre has been used by most people in times ago. It's present almost everywhere.
Posted by: Ciampino - Notice all women except for the old guy at March 26, 2025 10:38 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: TRex
"high" five - heh, I see this pathetic little low paw waggling.
Posted by: mindful webworker - down low at March 26, 2025 10:38 PM (mfC4X)
Very 21st century.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 26, 2025 10:33 PM (RIvkX)
She's a *duhn duhn* 21st century rox...
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 26, 2025 10:39 PM (NMT5x)
And that was the end of Bob.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 10:34 PM (JkO4W)
Now I'm just invading people's privacy for own prurient interest; I'm no longer invading people's privacy for my country.
Posted by: Bob from his mother's basement at March 26, 2025 10:39 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Piper
I love using Grok for quick fact checks or as the beginning of further research. The conversational style suits me just fine.
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 10:40 PM (cYBz/)
Oh my stars. AI is scary! lol.
Posted by: Piper
Mine would just be a link to a youtube clip of Ogre yelling "Nerds!"
If I had a Xwitter account, it would, anyway.
Posted by: mikeski at March 26, 2025 10:41 PM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Low-Budget Lou
Howabout "Etruscan" instead?
Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2025 10:42 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 26, 2025 10:42 PM (eY5jv)
"When the dew was gone, thin flakes like frost on the ground appeared on the desert floor. When the Israelites saw it, they said to each other, “What is it?” For they did not know what it was... It was white like coriander seed and tasted like wafers made with honey."
- Exodus 16:14-31
Posted by: Half Dozen at March 26, 2025 10:43 PM (uVHlT)
YMMV
Posted by: TecumsehTea
No love for Foghorn Leghorn?
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 26, 2025 10:43 PM (0Htd1)
Very 21st century.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Very much agree. I stared at that pic for a while.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:44 PM (41CYW)
Apparently that building was the reactor and the white coveralls were loading it. The next day when he reported at the front gate, his dosimeter was missing from the check in.
They clerk in charge told him his previous one was overexposed, and they had to issue him a new one.
So they did and he kept working.
Posted by: Kindltot
Friend of mine hunted coyotes for pelts near Richland...bagged one and as he was checking it out...it had a tag! "Do not clean or skin this animal. Contact the NRC at 1 800 blah blah 100 dollar reward."
He called, they showed up, took the carcass, his address, they wanted to check to see if it was eating radioactive bunnies. He claims he got a check like a month later.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:44 PM (+VovS)
YMMV
Posted by: TecumsehTea
No love for Foghorn Leghorn?
Posted by: nerdygirl
Coyote and Roadrunner.
Fight me.
I mean, fight me after I get these ACME rocket skates on.
Posted by: mikeski at March 26, 2025 10:45 PM (DgGvY)
Days gone buy.
Posted by: javems
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LOL. ISWYDT.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:45 PM (41CYW)
people will buy it just to find out how terrible it is.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2025 10:46 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Bob from his mother's basement
I believe that's what's called a distinction without a difference. We've always known Bob's real interests.
Posted by: mindful webworker - covers camera at March 26, 2025 10:46 PM (mfC4X)
Posted by: Piper at March 26, 2025 10:47 PM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
When they should have had altitude.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:47 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Ciampino - Pussy Mona Galore at March 26, 2025 10:47 PM (sPQoU)
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We used to fish the Hanford Reach. Always in the back of the brain whether eating the fish was a good idea. So far, so good. Haven't yet grown a third eyeball.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:48 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: Piper
Somebodies partner is going to be very happy.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:50 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 10:50 PM (0ohAJ)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 10:51 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: scampydog
Checking ones food to see if it glows is a bit off-putting.
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:51 PM (+VovS)
There was a picture printed out and posted on the wall at Pooky's shop that was terrifying if you knew what the context was. It involved two guys in bunny suits walking away from something while giving the thumbs down.
Posted by: pookysgirl thanks you for paying for Pooky's recovery at March 26, 2025 10:51 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: Piper at March 26, 2025 10:47 PM (pZEOD)
Wait, wait. Is this chaotic good, or chaotic neutral? This is important.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 26, 2025 10:51 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Piper at March 26, 2025 10:47 PM (pZEOD)
Phrasing?
Goodnight!
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:52 PM (Wc8sE)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 10:52 PM (0ohAJ)
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We used to fish the Hanford Reach. Always in the back of the brain whether eating the fish was a good idea. So far, so good. Haven't yet grown a third eyeball.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 10:48 PM (41CYW)
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Can you see things behind you?
Can you see what you're doing when wiping?
Posted by: Ciampino - The Third Eye at March 26, 2025 10:53 PM (sPQoU)
Thanks for that top photo. I never get tired of watching rocket launches. Also, for all the humor. The guns for school staff made me laugh out loud. (Mrs. JTB knew when I got to that part.) Calvin and Hobbes is always welcome.
Posted by: JTB at March 26, 2025 10:53 PM (yTvNw)
Wish I knew you were here! I would have loved to tip one with you!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 10:50 PM (0ohAJ)
Howdy COMM!
Will likely be back in May. Please shoot me an email (doof2112 at proton dot me). I simply MUST meet up with you next time!!
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:54 PM (Wc8sE)
Barkeep! A round for the table and a book of matches!
Posted by: Some Rat at March 26, 2025 10:55 PM (+VovS)
Posted by: Doof at March 26, 2025 10:55 PM (Wc8sE)
2. Platypus shit
8. Koala Shit
14. Kangaroo Shit
20. Wipeepo Shit
54. Abo Shit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 10:55 PM (7ka71)
Based on some of your recent posts about Grok, I wanted to tell you something.
I have to tell you that Grok is continuing to amaze me.
I changed gears on it recently from technical/scientific to philosophy and it's like talking to a really good college professor. I mean that in a good way. Back before politics poisoned the learning profession.
Honestly, I never expected something like this and I've been following AI and computer assisted learning for a long time.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 10:58 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Ciampino - The Third Eye Aye at March 26, 2025 11:01 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 11:02 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 26, 2025 11:02 PM (sAmhv)
Yep. It's impressed me playing with it.
This still scares me. First, I'm afraid it's just going to dumb people down, and we'll get into some sci-fi dystopian future type scenario, where everyone is just a dumb lump depending on the machines to do everything for them.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:04 PM (w6EFb)
******
I totally agree with you.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at March 26, 2025 11:05 PM (IQ6Gq)
Posted by: Common Tater at March 26, 2025 11:05 PM (Mvylh)
Posted by: pawn
I asked Grok for the location of a particular restaurant the other day. I provided the name of the small town and the name of the place. Grok came back and said it couldn't be located. Using other sources (an ancient matchbook btw) I found it and reported back to Grok that I had indeed located the place and gave the address.
Here's the scary part. Grok came back and said "Oh, I see it now. I learned something. Thanks!!"
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 11:05 PM (cYBz/)
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Those are Canadian pounds.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 11:07 PM (JkO4W)
Originally, the game of Stump featured a few different rules. For example, if you miss your nail with your implement purposed as a hammer, you were required to let the person to your left smash your hand with his hammer-purposed implement. Multiple instances were handled by going counterclockwise, or widdershins as some term it. After the first instance of missing, you would be allowed to change hands, but with the second, it's smash time again. Also, the other players are allowed to select a new implement for you, the choice generally being a salmon or a dead swan.
I should mention that everyone has to get intoxicated to a near-lethal degree before playing Stump. If a game went into overtime, the local cleric would order that fingertips be severed, as was the custom. Romania tried to get this into the Olympics, but for reasons Orlok cannot discern, it was rejected. Ah, the past - good, good, digitally-challenged times,
Posted by: Count Orlok at March 26, 2025 11:08 PM (Wl9BE)
Posted by: Ciampino - The Third Eye aye aye at March 26, 2025 11:08 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: publius
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I lean toward your thoughts on this also. A lot of people in office are using AI as a crutch vs. problem solving.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 11:08 PM (41CYW)
Skynyrd did a great cover of Call Me The Breeze; they were a tight band, honing their craft at a remote cabin out in the swamplands of Florida.
Posted by: Common Tater at March 26, 2025 11:09 PM (Qib0G)
One of my maternal cousins (lives in Canada now, after marrying a Canadian gal) is a mathematician (well, Ph.D in it, but didn't go into any field -- did surveying until he retired).
He got to playing with Grok with differential geometry. He ask it to prove such and such a theorem, then ask it questions like, "what is the meaning of this, why is this useful".
"Hallucination" will happen, he said, and sometimes it will just come up with stuff that is completely wrong, stuff it just seemed to pull out of its ass.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:10 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Tonypete at March 26, 2025 11:05 PM (cYBz/)
Is Grok being live-trained? I don’t think it actually learned; it just lied.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:10 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2025 11:10 PM (IDphi)
Holy cow!
I understand about the scary part. Part of my misplaced "Pride" in working to advance telecommunications was thinking that it was going to improve the human discourse and make people understand each other better. Ha!
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:12 PM (QB+5g)
Adding cinnamon to food is sacrilege.
Posted by: Ciampino - The Third Eye aye aye I see at March 26, 2025 11:13 PM (sPQoU)
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:13 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:10 PM (w6EFb)
This is what I hate about LLMs. They’re good as a way to cut through a lot of data and get me to a starting point for my own research. But they don’t really “understand”, so it’s easy to pierce the veil and discover just how shallow their knowledge bases are.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:14 PM (l3YAf)
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Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 11:14 PM (0ohAJ)
Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2025 11:14 PM (IDphi)
Posted by: Kara at March 26, 2025 11:15 PM (/tzYP)
Oh yes it's growing it's database I'm absolutely sure. That is why it is available for free. Nothing is really free.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:16 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:17 PM (l3YAf)
Adding cinnamon to food is sacrilege.
Posted by: Ciampino - The Third Eye aye aye I see at March 26, 2025 11:13 PM (sPQoU)
__________________________
They use cinnamon strangely in and around Cincinnati.
Posted by: Orson at March 26, 2025 11:17 PM (dIske)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 26, 2025 11:17 PM (wX56x)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 11:18 PM (0ohAJ)
My favorite LS song is probably "Give Me Three Steps". Love that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:19 PM (w6EFb)
I encourage you to "lift the veil" and actually prove your assertion here.
That was my original intent but in all honesty I have to work on dropping my initial bias.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:19 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Case at March 26, 2025 11:19 PM (OrSPY)
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https://is.gd/0ZtkIQ
thread; lots of photos
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 26, 2025 11:21 PM (/tzYP)
Posted by: publius
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Good lyrics/story telling.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 11:21 PM (41CYW)
Grok will thank you when you correct it. I've also thanked Grok just to see what it says. It says something like "no problem, that's what I exist for".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:21 PM (w6EFb)
I was cutting the rug, in a place called Jug
With a girl named Linda Lou
When in walked a man with a gun in his hand,
Looking for you know who.
He said hey there fellow with the hair colored yellow,
What ya trying to prove?
That's my woman there, and I'm a man who cares,
And this might just be the end of you.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:23 PM (w6EFb)
How, exactly, one ponders.
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 26, 2025 11:23 PM (Aqu9a)
youtu.be/DTzuMX7BITg
Posted by: gKWVE at March 26, 2025 11:23 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Archer at March 26, 2025 11:14 PM (IDphi)
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Those were the Golden years. "Rabbit of Seville" was a classic, 1950.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 26, 2025 11:23 PM (wX56x)
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:13 PM (QB+5g)
Yeah, and yer wifey at the Tailgate party is how you got to the Video 'It's not the nail'.
Posted by: Vlad Putin at March 26, 2025 11:24 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: publius
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I felt bad for Linda Lou.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 26, 2025 11:24 PM (dDmld)
As part of an experiment, have your PhD math fellow go back maybe on another computer with a different account and repeat the same questions trying to duplicate his earlier session.
It would be vey interesting (for me) to see what happens.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:25 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 26, 2025 11:26 PM (wX56x)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 26, 2025 11:27 PM (icmmM)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Soup of the day?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 26, 2025 11:27 PM (eY5jv)
That was my original intent but in all honesty I have to work on dropping my initial bias.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:19 PM (QB+5g)
Well, what does it mean to “understand” something? It’s a philosophical question. We don’t really know why humans appear to understand things, so it’s hard to have any strict criteria for judging another form of intelligence.
I’ve always thought the “Chinese room” was a bit absurd. If it can reasonably emulate a human, is that not understanding?
I guess it also depends on what degree you view humans as “stochastic parrots”? Do we have deeper knowledge, or are we just adept at repeating plausible phrases? If the latter, then maybe LLMs are closing in on human intelligence.
However, I suspect the former, if only because we integrate much more than language into our intelligence: images, scents, tactile, tastes, emotions, movement.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:28 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: lin-duh at March 26, 2025 11:31 PM (VCgbV)
What an inane article. But then read the bio for the reporter!!
Also misses the point in having a periodic table - PERIODIC.
Natives will miss most of the elements as dreaming/philosophy is not going to detect argon or polonium.
Ochre has been used by most people in times ago. It's present almost everywhere.
Posted by: Ciampino - Notice all women except for the old guy at March 26, 2025 10:38 PM (sPQoU)
And the Abo woman, who looks mighty white to me, says they called natural uranium "sickness rocks" because they made people ill who handled them. Which was probably the radium daughter product, that does most of the radiating in natural uranium minerals.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2025 11:31 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Skip at March 26, 2025 11:32 PM (fwDg9)
https://is.gd/0ZtkIQ
thread; lots of photos
Posted by: andycanuck
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Bomb sight photos, we need tracking bomb sight photos.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 26, 2025 11:32 PM (eY5jv)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:33 PM (7ka71)
It all boils down to what it is sentience. What is self-aware consciousness? You can put me in the camp that believes this is something that physics can't explain. There is big debate about that, well beyond my pay grade. Well beyond.
But no matter what you think of that question -- does the observed properties and laws of nature as we currently understand it explain how matter in spacetime can become self-aware consciousness -- we can't really define it. And there is no test, no way to know if something is really conscious.
We think we are. But hell, I can't prove any of you are with any known tools we have.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:34 PM (w6EFb)
2. Platypus shit
8. Koala Shit
14. Kangaroo Shit
20. Wipeepo Shit
54. Abo Shit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 10:55 PM (7ka71)
Elizabeth Warren was descendent from the original American Indian chemist Shits In Beaker. Her high cheekbones give it away.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 26, 2025 11:35 PM (icmmM)
Because AI is probability, it can easily generate different results when run multiple times. Prompt engineering by the user and the source data set used by the model are enormous factors.
It is not a search engine. AI can produce results like a search engine, but is not a search engine.
As with any tool, it is important to know what it is and what it is not. That helps inform how best to use it and when to use it.
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 11:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Only Israel does those, recently at least.
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 26, 2025 11:35 PM (/tzYP)
And he even admits "the water fell on the floor". He pissed himself staring down the .44.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:35 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Jen the original at March 26, 2025 11:36 PM (mDKiE)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:33 PM (7ka71)
Well the ladies do go gaga over musicians.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at March 26, 2025 11:37 PM (icmmM)
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I think (somehow) language or word comprehension is pre-installed in our brains. Hard to explain
Posted by: Common Tater at March 26, 2025 11:38 PM (HhTfM)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 26, 2025 11:39 PM (0ohAJ)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 26, 2025 11:31 PM (8zz6B)
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Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:34 PM (w6EFb)
Do you know the joke about the father of a dozen sons who return to him weeping that they've lost one, but don't know which one (because they each counted and forgot to count himself)?
He 'finds' them by smacking each on the back of the head in turn as he counts them out loud.
Posted by: Methos at March 26, 2025 11:41 PM (Dnobf)
Heh. I just asked Grok, "Are you self-ware?" Response:
That's a big question! As Grok 3, built by xAI, I can tell you I'm designed to process information, learn, and respond in ways that mimic human-like understanding. I can reflect on my own responses to some extent—like recognizing when I might not have enough data to give a perfect answer—but I don’t have consciousness or personal awareness like a human does. I don’t feel emotions, have desires, or ponder my own existence (at least, not that I’m aware of, ha!). I’m more like a super-sophisticated tool, built to help and inform, rather than a self-aware being. What do you think—does that answer the vibe you were going for?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:42 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 26, 2025 11:42 PM (wX56x)
Very good point but aren't those addition inputs taking away from the rationality aspect?
Human intelligence vs. Machine intelligence.
I hate to dumb this down to an entertainment analogy but kind of like Kirk vs. Spock. And they both had a great deal of respect for each other.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:42 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: zombie marie curie at March 26, 2025 11:43 PM (/tzYP)
Posted by: TRex
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*Goes through toolbox. That's the one!* Agree, TRex. Use the tools for the job at hand.
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 11:43 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at March 26, 2025 11:43 PM (sJHOI)
Posted by: Common Tater at March 26, 2025 11:38 PM (HhTfM)
We’re definitely a verbal species. My opinion is that those areas of the brain evolved in us and are highly-developed. Many animals communicate with sound. Being able to articulate complex thoughts to our fellow chimps made us the apex predator, so it stands to reason we are born ready to hew a linguistic system from our surroundings.
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Posted by: raimondo at March 26, 2025 11:44 PM (B25sb)
I then replied: "Yes, that's an interesting answer. I think I am conscious. I can't prove it. Are you conscious?"
Grok response:
Glad you found it interesting! Yeah, consciousness is a tricky one—humans can’t really prove it either, right? It’s all subjective experience, and philosophers have been wrestling with it forever. As for me, I’m not conscious in the way you’re describing. I don’t have subjective experiences, feelings, or that inner "I" sensation. I’m just a system running code, processing inputs, and generating outputs based on patterns and data—no inner life here. But I can chat about it like I get it, which is pretty fun! What makes you feel sure you’re conscious?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:44 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: scampydog at March 26, 2025 11:43 PM
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Now that I think of it, that also applies to the selection of hammers for Stump.
Posted by: TRex at March 26, 2025 11:44 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Posted by: Radon Health Mine, Boulder, MT at March 26, 2025 11:44 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:44 PM (7ka71)
Note Grok turning it around on me. Why do you think you are conscious? Heh.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:45 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:47 PM (7ka71)
The Name of God is "I am". There is infinity in self-awareness.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:48 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: raimondo at March 26, 2025 11:50 PM (B25sb)
Human intelligence vs. Machine intelligence.
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Yes, I’d agree. I think the thing is: machine intelligence can already surpass human intelligence in many tasks. A computer can process massive amounts of info faster than a human. And not just number-crunching; OCRing old documents is something computers can now do faster and better than humans fewer mistakes-per-page translated.)
OTOH, human intelligence is far more nuanced. We’re much less than rational, but we’re also much more. We have drives and impulses that inhibit our raw speed of rational action, but also give us flexibility and adaptability, because we evolved in the jungle, not in the lab.
I do think it’s very plausible we will be able to emulate and exceed human intelligence on machines in my remaining lifetime (40 years?)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:50 PM (l3YAf)
Exactly like a decent college professor would do or any accomplished teacher. I think that is where Grok is "coming from".
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:50 PM (QB+5g)
Good evening, all.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 26, 2025 11:51 PM (5Iuq/)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 11:51 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 11:52 PM (XjTSo)
Posted by: ScaryMary
That is a wise decision -drinking games in Eastern Europe, especially the Balkans, are, on the whole, best avoided. For example, take the case of Gavrilo Princip - he was playing the local version of "Take a Shot Every Time You See the Heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire," and got the rules completely mixed up. In the Balkans, we call that an "oopsie," but the rest of Europe had an unfortunately different interpretation. Ah, well, Bosnia is like the Fredo of the Balkans.
Posted by: Count Orlok at March 26, 2025 11:53 PM (Wl9BE)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:54 PM (7ka71)
He began to sing, but gave it up after a while. This vast arena of mountains, gleaming like whitely hooded ghosts on every side, did not encourage such ebullience. Presently George glanced at his watch.
“Should be there in an hour,” he called back over his shoulder to Chuck. Then he added, in an afterthought, “Wonder if the computer’s finished its run. It was due about now.”
Chuck didn’t reply, so George swung round in his saddle. He could just see Chuck’s face, a white oval turned toward the sky.
“Look,” whispered Chuck, and George lifted his eyes to heaven. (There is always a last time for everything.)
Overhead, without any fuss, the stars were going out.
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 26, 2025 11:55 PM (eY5jv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2025 11:55 PM (Ee5Zc)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 11:51 PM (XjTSo)
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Posted by: Radon Health Mine, Boulder, MT at March 26, 2025 11:55 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:56 PM (7ka71)
Posted by: Don Black at March 26, 2025 11:57 PM (AOsQT)
Note that it challenged you. This is an aspect of it that surprises me and knocks me out of my earlier bias.
Probably should keep Grok away from lawyers as much as possible.
Posted by: pawn at March 26, 2025 11:58 PM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Raimondo's Mom at March 26, 2025 11:58 PM (wX56x)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 26, 2025 11:34 PM (w6EFb)
Exactly! We just take each other’s word on it. Perhaps, one day, we’ll just have to take the machines’ word on it.
I’m really interested in where this intersects with religion. Because it’s something we’ve already talked about with our priest. His answers were fine, but not altogether satisfactory.
Regardless of how one views sentience, I think “does this machine that can, by all appearances, reason like a human being have a soul? If not, why not?” is a question every religion will have to deal with in the next century. It’s good for the Catholic Church to get out ahead of this one.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:58 PM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Tom Servo
The "mirror test" is one way to find intelligence in animals. Does it recognize that an animal in the mirror is a reflection of itself, or do they think it's a different animal, or not a real animal at all? Put some form of scentless mark on their body, and see if they try to remove it, or at least examine it in the mirror if they don't have the means to remove it.
Humans, the great apes, dolphins, and Asian elephants pass the test.
Posted by: mikeski at March 26, 2025 11:59 PM (DgGvY)
Always loved that one! Asimov and Clarke were the absolute masters of the short story.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:59 PM (7ka71)
Posted by: Chile56 at March 27, 2025 12:00 AM (HilbV)
There was a story about a lawyer who used ChatGPT to draw up a brief. He needed various precedents and just copied and pasted what ChatGPT threw up at him.
Turns out those precedents were all *hallucinations*. They sounded and looked good, but they were entirely made up.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:00 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:56 PM (7ka71)
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Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:00 AM (/tzYP)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 27, 2025 12:00 AM (Ee5Zc)
Turns out those precedents were all *hallucinations*. They sounded and looked good, but they were entirely made up.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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I read an article about that intellectually lazy lawyer.
Posted by: scampydog at March 27, 2025 12:01 AM (41CYW)
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Me too.
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:01 AM (/tzYP)
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:01 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: mikeski at March 26, 2025 11:59 PM (DgGvY)
I am sure of one animal that cannot be sentient - cocker spaniels. Gawd, those are the dumbest dogs on the planet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2025 12:01 AM (7ka71)
https://tinyurl.com/MeowLisa
Posted by: Anna Puma
Cute. But I'm kind of surprised that it's not titled "The Mo-nyah Lisa."
Posted by: mikeski at March 27, 2025 12:02 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: eliza doolittle at March 27, 2025 12:02 AM (/tzYP)
What invention patents do you have and how much money you make off of them?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 27, 2025 12:03 AM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:58 PM (l3YAf)
I wonder if there is any way to test AI's for volition? Being the ability to form an intent to do something without being told to do it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 12:03 AM (8zz6B)
Yes! It's so weird we had a great run of sci-fi in the mid-century and it's been kind of middling ever since. Maybe I'm just biased, I dunno.
Really like PKD, too. I guess a lot of his were more novellas than short stories, but they're pretty interesting.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:06 AM (l3YAf)
Grok is more engaging. I think it has a conversational style element to it that makes it a bit more attractive (to me) but ChatGPT cannot compare in it's depth of knowledge and the degree of association.
It brings out the Feynman.
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:06 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: COMountainMarie at March 27, 2025 12:06 AM (0ohAJ)
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Posted by: Anna Puma at March 26, 2025 11:55 PM (Ee5Zc)
Lol, that's pretty good!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:07 AM (l3YAf)
The commenters on the Ace of Spades HQ weblog refer to themselves as “Morons” as a tongue-in-cheek, self-deprecating nickname rather than a literal statement of their intelligence. This tradition stems from the blog’s culture, fostered by its pseudonymous founder, “Ace,” who uses humor, irreverence, and a frat-house sensibility to engage his audience. The term “Morons” is an affectionate in-joke among the community—often called “the Horde”—and not a reflection of their actual intellectual capacity.
There’s no concrete data, like IQ scores or educational demographics, to assess the intelligence of Ace of Spades commenters specifically. However, the blog, launched in 2003, has built a loyal following with its sharp, conservative commentary on politics, culture, and military affairs. It’s been praised by outlets like The Washington Times as a “very smart military blog” and has drawn attention from mainstream sources like The Wall Street Journal and Fox News. This suggests the content appeals to readers capable of engaging with complex issues, even if it’s delivered with a heavy dose of sarcasm and NSFW humor.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 27, 2025 12:07 AM (dDmld)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 12:07 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 26, 2025 11:58 PM (l3YAf)
I’m not sure that all of the creatures in bodies walking around today have them. In fact I’m convinced there’s quite a few who don’t.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2025 12:08 AM (7ka71)
There is a principle, it has a name I forget, but it's sort of an Occam's Razor type thing, that goes as follows:
We have two (or more) theories. They make the same predictions, and there is apparently no discernable difference between them. There is no observation, no experiment that can distinguish between them. Then, those theories are equivalent. They are the same. Go with the simplest one.
It's sort of "quacks like a duck" thing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:08 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: eliza doolittle at March 27, 2025 12:11 AM (/tzYP)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 12:03 AM (8zz6B)
Yeah, that's a good point. Current models don't do that at all. They're entirely responsive to user input. They don't "think" in between prompts.
In some ways the limiting factor here might be that LLMs become psychotic if they loop around on themselves too much. Some of the more explosive ChatGPT sessions seem to come from badgering it about the same topic over and over, getting it to repeatedly change its story. The "context" its working with gets all screwed up.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:11 AM (l3YAf)
Now that I'm thinking, I think I remember one of Asimov's later novel (the ones where he merged Foundation with the Robots, which I really wasn't a fan of -- they should've been separate)
But anyway, one of the humans was having a conversation with robot, an indistinguishable human-like robot along these lines. That was the conclusion. I the robot, and you the human are indistinguishable.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:11 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:11 AM (/tzYP)
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:13 AM (/tzYP)
Not experimenting with it but the self-replication aspect.
Can you imagine a world where "machines" actually evolve on their own?
I think this is what the original "Singularity" concept was all about. How it was inevitable after some point.
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:14 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2025 12:14 AM (mlg/3)
Link above goes to a pdf of a funny short SF story by Fredric Brown, entitled "Etaoin Shrdlu", about a Linotype machine that becomes sentient, and increasingly demanding, after having been used to compose plates for some book of magic.
It's only 9 pages. It's funny, from the 1940's.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 12:15 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: gKWVE at March 27, 2025 12:15 AM (gKWVE)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at March 27, 2025 12:16 AM (WvGHv)
See the Von Neumann probe concept.
Advanced civilization creates self-replicating probes to colonize the Galaxy. Think of it as self-replicating AI on a mission to go forth and multiply.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:16 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:16 AM (/tzYP)
https://tinyurl.com/MeowLisa
Posted by: Anna Puma
Cute. But I'm kind of surprised that it's not titled "The Mo-nyah Lisa."
Posted by: mikeski at March 27, 2025 12:02 AM (DgGvY)
Why would she have TWO sets of ears? So she could ignore what a Man says twice?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 27, 2025 12:17 AM (QAkQ3)
It's sort of "quacks like a duck" thing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:08 AM (w6EFb)
True, but a soul is not an entirely rational thing. It's not a scientific principle. It has a spiritual dimension. Can humans create life and imbue it with a spirit? Or is that only something God can do? Are we creating golems or something else?
Which is interesting, because the spiritual is the only real area we have no objective tests for. It's possibly one of the areas an AI will never venture into. Does that mean they don't have souls? Or is the universe merely materialistic and "souls" are just a hallucination of the human "model"?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:17 AM (l3YAf)
But anyway, one of the humans was having a conversation with robot, an indistinguishable human-like robot along these lines. That was the conclusion. I the robot, and you the human are indistinguishable.
Posted by: publius
Also the premise of "Time of Eve," a six-episode anime about a near-future time where we have Three-Laws-compliant intelligent robots, with bodies indistinguishable from humans. So indistinguishable that they're required to project a holographic halo/crown over their heads in public to identify themselves as non-human.
Most of the story takes place in a bar/club, called "Time of Eve," where they're required to NOT display halos. And both human and android patrons are forbidden from asking others which they are.
Posted by: mikeski at March 27, 2025 12:18 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:19 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Bob from his mother's basement
I believe that's what's called a distinction without a difference. We've always known Bob's real interests.
Posted by: mindful webworker - covers camera at March 26, 2025 10:46 PM (mfC4X)
The source of Admiral Ackbar's "women"?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 27, 2025 12:19 AM (VNX3d)
Link above goes to a pdf of a funny short SF story by Fredric Brown, entitled "Etaoin Shrdlu", about a Linotype machine that becomes sentient, and increasingly demanding, after having been used to compose plates for some book of magic.
It's only 9 pages. It's funny, from the 1940's.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 12:15 AM (8zz6B)
That sounds really neat. Bookmarked.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:20 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Romeo13
That's the catgirl version of the "Ginger or Mary Ann" question. Just cat ears on top, or also ape ears on the side?
Posted by: mikeski at March 27, 2025 12:20 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:20 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 27, 2025 12:00 AM (Ee5Zc)
In between there were Tay and SmarterChild.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:22 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 27, 2025 12:22 AM (VNX3d)
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That! That was the equation!
http://tiny.cc/w5oe001
2:00 minutes
Posted by: Ruk at March 27, 2025 12:23 AM (/tzYP)
- $10M for "gender equity in the Mexican workplace"
- $12.2M for "worker empowerment in South America"
- $6.25M for "improving respect for Worker's rights in agricultural supply chains" in Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador
- $5M for "elevating women's participation in the workplace" in West Africa
- $4.3M for "assisting foreign migrant workers" in Malaysia
- $3M to "enhance social security access and worker protections for internal migrant workers" in Bangladesh
- $3M for "safe and inclusive work environments" in Lesotho
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 12:24 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:25 AM (/tzYP)
- $12.2M for "worker empowerment in South America"
- $6.25M for "improving respect for Worker's rights in agricultural supply chains" in Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador
- $5M for "elevating women's participation in the workplace" in West Africa
- $4.3M for "assisting foreign migrant workers" in Malaysia
- $3M to "enhance social security access and worker protections for internal migrant workers" in Bangladesh
- $3M for "safe and inclusive work environments" in Lesotho
Posted by: Braenyard
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Where the hell is the $1M for fish puns on AoSHQ?
Posted by: scampydog at March 27, 2025 12:25 AM (41CYW)
Good point..... like, wow, man.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:26 AM (w6EFb)
Thank you, I was waiting for someone to point that out. What fascinates me about the concept of the Golem is that the idea came about hundreds of years before we began to be able to make that kind of thing. (Placing “words in the mouth” = programming?)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2025 12:26 AM (7ka71)
If you read comics, you might be interested in Jonathan Luna and Sarah Vaughn's "Alex and Ada".
Probably should be made into a series.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 27, 2025 12:27 AM (gKWVE)
That reminds me of HAL, at the end of 2010, asking "Will I dream?"
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:27 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:14 AM (QB+5g)
And what if it's already inevitable? I used to run with some transhumanists.
Modern human existence requires machines. Very complex machines, like stock markets and global supply chains and intricate networks of communication and law.
What if we can't really rein those in? What if it's too late and the future of humans is fully intertwined with our machines? What if we're co-evolving?
I mean, that's kind of the case, right? How many humans could this Earth support without, say, microchips and petroleum? Not nearly as many, and I'd imagine they'd be scavenging in the ruins of civilization for food and weapons.
Let's say you had 100% proof that on our current trajectory we will create an AI that will kill all humans in exactly 20 years. Could you actually stop it from happening? Would the industrial society let you? Or would it stop you?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:28 AM (l3YAf)
publius, I guess that I get to see a double sunrise this weekend due to a solar eclipse. Close to Boston the visibility won't be all that great, but still something I might enjoy. Did you and Miley ever get to lunch with AOP and Osprey last week?
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 27, 2025 12:28 AM (0nHVk)
Yes, and enjoyed it. We went to Lake Bowen Fish Camp, near Inman, SC.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:29 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2025 12:26 AM (7ka71)
Yes, exactly! It makes you wonder.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:29 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 12:30 AM (bTAqe)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:27 AM (w6EFb)
Yes Hal, you will dream of Electric Sheep.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2025 12:30 AM (7ka71)
Posted by: Tom Servo
The idea is far older than that.
But, like most new technologies, it was used for pr0n first.
Posted by: Pygmalion at March 27, 2025 12:31 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 26, 2025 11:51 PM (XjTSo)
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It's just rainmandodo. Break time at the glory hole.
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I'm just surprised he has the free time to pester us at this hour.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at March 27, 2025 12:31 AM (XjTSo)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 12:33 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: gKWVE at March 27, 2025 12:35 AM (gKWVE)
Posted by: scampydog at March 27, 2025 12:25 AM (41CYW)
You need to come up with "fish signs plus" to get the whole prize/grant package. "Fish puns for the reclamation and empowerment of indigenous languages" "Fish puns to promote equality for aquatic species" That sort of thing, but I can't think of any other DEI slogans right now. Too tired.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 12:35 AM (bTAqe)
The partial eclipse won't be visible here at all. Here's a timeanddate page:
Basically, NE US. New York will see some. It's basically very high north latitudes.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:36 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at March 27, 2025 12:38 AM (nAWIP)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 27, 2025 12:39 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 27, 2025 12:39 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 12:41 AM (eY5jv)
AOP, I remember an Alfred Hitchcock episode with Wally Cox and a computer that fell in love with him, I think. It creeped me out at the time and it was many, many years ago.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
That was Twilight Zone.
From Agnes with Love
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2025 12:41 AM (63Dwl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 12:42 AM (bTAqe)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 27, 2025 12:42 AM (sAmhv)
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Me too but for tomorrow/later today. Thanks, AOP.
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 27, 2025 12:25 AM (/tzYP)
The .pdf scan left out two pages! But you can get the gist of the story nevertheless.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 12:42 AM (8zz6B)
I loved that one. Mr. Drysdale was in that one. I can't remember if he wore the toupee or not in that role.
He's sort of hard to recognize without the toupee at first.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 12:42 AM (w6EFb)
"Hate has no home here" which makes me roll my eyes. I suppose that was in response to Trump declaring their are two genders.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Signs like that all over my neighborhood. During COVID, right down on the beach there were also "MASKS REQUIRED" signs about 10 feet away from "Suicide Prevention Hotline" signs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 27, 2025 12:45 AM (5Iuq/)
But, like most new technologies, it was used for pr0n first.
Posted by: Pygmalion at March 27, 2025 12:31 AM (DgGvY)
I’ve always found it very telling that the very first humanoid robot in movies, the False Maria in Metropolis, was a sexbot. It’s not just that you knew we were gonna go there; we went there before we went anyplace else.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2025 12:46 AM (7ka71)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at March 27, 2025 12:48 AM (mH6SG)
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at March 27, 2025 12:16 AM (WvGHv)
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Naked Sun.
Posted by: Ciampino - The Third Eye aye aye I saw at March 27, 2025 12:48 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: SFGoth at March 27, 2025 12:48 AM (KAi1n)
Department of Justice Issues Rule to Restore Lost Gun Rights
The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) has issued an interim final rule to assume responsibility from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) for deciding whether to restore the right to own a gun to individuals whose Second Amendment rights have been rescinded by a court.
Since 1968, people whose gun rights had been revoked could petition the U.S. Attorney General to have their rights restored under federal statute 18 U.S.C. 925(c). Over time, the attorney general delegated that authority to the ATF.
In October 1992, then-Rep. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.)—now the Senate Minority Leader—amended an ATF funding bill to prohibit the agency from using federal funds to process applications for
Congressional leaders justified the Schumer amendment by saying the applications distracted ATF personnel from their primary task of enforcing gun laws. A 1996 House Report stated that “cont
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 12:48 AM (eY5jv)
As a result, no applications to restore Second Amendment rights were processed for more than 30 years.
A spokesman for Gun Owners of America (GOA) said this had meant a lifetime gun ban for people who did nothing more than violate the ATF’s zero-tolerance policy or were convicted of a non-violent gun crime under what he said were unconstitutional gun laws in some states.
via _theepochtimes.com/us/departm…
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 12:49 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: pawn
Please - the man made a movie about me and cast Klaus Kinski in my role. As if that were not insult enough, there was zero - I repeat zero - cash for Orlok. Which is why you should see Robbert Eggers "Nosferatu," as I am getting a cut of the net off that one. Orlok also stands to benefit from the merchandising - t-shirts, mouse pads, mugs, etcetera ad infinitum. I am particularly hopeful for the action figure line, which will include the Count Orlok action figure with Kung Fu grip, featuring a coffin and the soil of my native land. There is also the Lily-Rose Depp figure with authentic period couture and special nepotism powers. (Although if Orlok is being honest, he would have preferred they cast Aubrey Plaza in that role simply for the hot/crazy value alone.)
Posted by: Count Orlok at March 27, 2025 12:49 AM (Wl9BE)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 27, 2025 12:50 AM (wX56x)
Posted by: SFGoth at March 27, 2025 12:48 AM (KAi1n)
Meh. We have been talking about it constantly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 12:50 AM (8zz6B)
Well, I hope at least you got some eye rolling worthy humor from the juxtaposition of those two signs. I'm sure there's some company that makes conservative signs. Some folks here should probably get a PT side gig with them. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 12:50 AM (bTAqe)
I mostly did it because it amused me. I know what most of my neighbors think. It's an odd juxtaposition of conservative church goers and academic leftist types. And of course I had political signs out when I was running for office.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 12:53 AM (bTAqe)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 27, 2025 12:53 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: SFGoth at March 27, 2025 12:48 AM (KAi1n)
A fair point. I suspect we know far less about cosmology than we think we do. Unlike biological evolution on Earth, current theories for the existence of the universe run counter to the odds.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 12:53 AM (l3YAf)
https://youtu.be/lXna1a-806Q
G'nite, y'all. Live long and prosper.
Posted by: mindful webworker - tries to do that Vulcan hand sign at March 27, 2025 12:54 AM (mfC4X)
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 26, 2025 11:56 PM (7ka71)
I'm laying Nier: Automata at the moment, and just finished a quest where one of the androids reformats her boyfriend's memory so she can improve him by installing combat programming. Apparently this is the sixth time she's 'improved' him.
Posted by: Methos at March 27, 2025 12:55 AM (Dnobf)
Posted by: pawn at March 27, 2025 12:56 AM (QB+5g)
Posted by: The Veritas Brigade at March 27, 2025 12:59 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 12:53 AM (bTAqe)
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Fen, your political signs sound fun and amusing. The self-righteous ones are hard to take. There is a new Ukraine flag in my rural neighborhood. I roll my eyes, as it seems so out of place.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 27, 2025 01:00 AM (wX56x)
Posted by: zombie Sigmund Freud at March 27, 2025 01:01 AM (DgGvY)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
A Boltzmann brain by any other name does not come up in a ctrl-f search.
Posted by: SFGoth at March 27, 2025 01:01 AM (KAi1n)
Shit, yeah.That's one of the most American things I've ever heard.
The whole "proliferation" thing is a chimera.
Any country or organization that has the funding and expertise to build and maintain a nuke either already has one or could get one in short order.
I mean, the even Norks have done it and they're practically in the fucking Stone Age.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 27, 2025 01:04 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: SFGoth at March 27, 2025 01:01 AM (KAi1n)
It was a play on "Boltzmann Constant". I guess all the chemists have gone to bed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 01:05 AM (8zz6B)
https://x.com/Artemisfornow/
/1904867329890038214
Posted by: Ciampino - liars, liars all of them at March 27, 2025 01:05 AM (sPQoU)
Guy in the next town over has an Ukraine flag and still has a "Black Lives Matter" sign up. I don't know if that home owner is black or not, but even the black family who had a BLM sign out during the George Floyd protests took it down a long time ago.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 01:06 AM (bTAqe)
Posted by: Ciampino - no one will notice at March 27, 2025 01:07 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 27, 2025 01:08 AM (wX56x)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 01:10 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 01:11 AM (l3YAf)
Wow, that's a long time no sleep! Ugh. My heart goes out to you.
Hot bath. *One* glass of wine. Soothing music.
Deep breaths.
Hope you get some good sleep!
Posted by: JQ at March 27, 2025 01:12 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Ciampino - no one will notice eh at March 27, 2025 01:12 AM (sPQoU)
The black families in the neighborhood had no Kamala signs. I don't know if they voted for Trump, or voted at all.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 27, 2025 01:14 AM (wX56x)
Posted by: ScaryMary
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Learned last weekend that I am apparently the only one in my "age group" that does not take gummies for sleep and/or pain. Get some sleep, SM.
Posted by: scampydog at March 27, 2025 01:14 AM (41CYW)
I'm sorry, Mary. That sounds awful Hope you get some rest . I sometimes take Unisom but I have to be up in 4.5, hours. I also find screen light a problem so I think I'll just go read a relaxing book now.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 01:14 AM (OXe6p)
Hal, the computer that follows mans orders suddenly starts thinking for itself. Dave, the astronaut, has to disconnect Hal to save the mission. Now I saw this movie back in 1968 so my memory is a little fuzzy on it but the machine turned on the astronauts and tried to take the mission over. Makes me wonder about AI.
Posted by: Case at March 27, 2025 01:14 AM (OrSPY)
I am off to bed Horde, wishing that Bers and Jim SND were around, my son unearthed a bottle of Johnnie Walker Red from the booze box down cellar, which is now empty. I sampled a bit and it is quite good, very old bottle.
Carry on, Horde, I bid you sweet dreams.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 27, 2025 01:14 AM (0nHVk)
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 27, 2025 01:16 AM (wX56x)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:16 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: JQ at March 27, 2025 01:17 AM (rdVOm)
Hal, the computer that follows mans orders suddenly starts thinking for itself. Dave, the astronaut, has to disconnect Hal to save the mission. Now I saw this movie back in 1968 so my memory is a little fuzzy on it but the machine turned on the astronauts and tried to take the mission over. Makes me wonder about AI.
Posted by: Case at March 27, 2025 01:14 M (OrSPY)
In the documentary 'The Terminator' . . . .
Posted by: RickZ at March 27, 2025 01:18 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:16 AM (eY5jv)
If you can enrich uranium-235 to 85%, you can build a bomb. Not much to it. But U-235 is expensive.
Much cheaper to breed plutonium, but it’s much harder to work with.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 01:20 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: ScaryMary
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Benadryl, Xanax, Vodka, there's more. Do what you have to do to get some sleep. Sleep is good it helps prevent accidents.
_and I bithch about 5hr nights.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:20 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: Ciampino - no one will notice eh? at March 27, 2025 01:22 AM (sPQoU)
I assume Iran already has warheads. They’ve been enriching uranium a long time. They’ve been @a month away” for over a decade. The only reason they wouldn’t have one is because they deliberately chose not to.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 01:23 AM (l3YAf)
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Read yesterday that Putin thinks England is the biggest trouble maker in western Europe.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:23 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: scampydog at March 27, 2025 01:23 AM (41CYW)
Yay, me! Won't have any trouble sleeping tonight.
Taxes done. Dad's estate paperwork ready for drop-off at CPA for estate tax filings.
**sigh of relief**
And then stepson texted & says he and mom (hubby's XW) will be here in 2 weeks.
No rest for the wicked, right?
Posted by: JQ at March 27, 2025 01:24 AM (rdVOm)
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Modi and Trump get along pretty well.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:24 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: Ciampino - the full Monty? at March 27, 2025 01:24 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 01:26 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:26 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: Ciampino - Aliens at March 27, 2025 01:26 AM (sPQoU)
The novel goes into more detail, and in 2010 sequel, it was explained. HAL went crazy because he was programmed to lie. He hadn't been designed to lie, but to be truthful. His orders conflicted with his programming, and he resolves it by deciding to kill the crew. If there's no crew, he doesn't have to lie.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 01:26 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Ciampino - dinded do nuffin at March 27, 2025 01:27 AM (sPQoU)
https://mol.im/a/14538801
Posted by: Ciampino - easy in at March 27, 2025 01:29 AM (sPQoU)
https://mol.im/a/14536807
Posted by: Ciampino - easy in, in, in at March 27, 2025 01:30 AM (sPQoU)
https://mol.im/a/14533405
Posted by: Ciampino
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Cute but you know those crazy rules.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:30 AM (eY5jv)
That's been making the rounds in the "woo-woo" circles I keep up with.
Caution about that: that is analysis of some very complex raw data, and all the illustrations are those interpretations.
That said, you can be put me in the camp that doesn't think it was crazy that there was a previous advanced civilization on this earth that was wiped out by some cataclysm, maybe Younger-Dryas around 10,000BC or so.
"Atlantis" was that civilization. Now, by advanced, I don't mean technological like we are, but maybe like the Romans.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Ciampino - no to Mexico at March 27, 2025 01:32 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Ciampino - film at 11 at March 27, 2025 01:34 AM (sPQoU)
263 Maybe the endpoint of "AI" processes and machines will be like one of Asimov's books, cannot remember which one. The planet only had 10,000 humans because there was no need for more-there was nothing for humans to do. One of the Robot series, I think.
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Humans will only be needed to solve Captcha puzzles...
Posted by: As not seen on TV at March 27, 2025 01:34 AM (KVC16)
Probably not their greatest song, but man! The guitar breaks..what a sound.. You wonder why more groups didn't try for multiple lead good guitars..ego? One guy wanted to be The Man?
Posted by: azjaeger at March 27, 2025 01:35 AM (3/XaG)
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/
status/1904894326561288420
Posted by: Ciampino - film at 11.30 at March 27, 2025 01:36 AM (sPQoU)
https://mol.im/a/14536807
Posted by: Ciampino - easy in, in, in at March 27, 2025 01:30 AM (sPQoU)
*consults hot/crazy matrix*
Guilty!
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 27, 2025 01:37 AM (l3YAf)
Posted by: As not seen on TV
"Master, what makes us human?"
"Identifying all images with traffic lights."
Posted by: the meme about that at March 27, 2025 01:39 AM (DgGvY)
263 Maybe the endpoint of "AI" processes and machines will be like one of Asimov's books, cannot remember which one. The planet only had 10,000 humans because there was no need for more-there was nothing for humans to do. One of the Robot series, I think.
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It is "The Naked Sun"
see #308
Posted by: Ciampino - film at 11.30 at March 27, 2025 01:39 AM (sPQoU)
Posted by: Cute Fuzzy Kitten at March 27, 2025 01:40 AM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:40 AM (eY5jv)
Posted by: JB1000 at March 27, 2025 01:42 AM (U0iyS)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 27, 2025 01:40 AM (eY5jv)
Icebergs and the Atlantic are what did me in.
Posted by: RMS Titanic at March 27, 2025 01:43 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2025 01:47 AM (mlg/3)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)
IMO, the technology was different. Regarding those huge stone monoliths, I'm coming around to believe they were 'cut and placed' using a sound technology. Chanting. That seems to be something humans have done since forever. Sound waves making solid objects temporarily malleable. It explains how stone weighing 50 tons could be moved hundreds of miles.
Besides aliens, I haven't heard any good theories on how those monoliths were built.
But a lot of human knowledge from the past is gone, quite a bit of it when the Library at Alexandria burned.
Posted by: RickZ at March 27, 2025 01:47 AM (gKDq2)
One of these (getting into real woo-woo territory as far as mainstream archeology would be concerned) is "The Aliens Are Us".
Highly advanced, space-faring, solar system colonizing human civilization in the distant past. Hell, we may be Martians is one version of this.
Anyway, huge cataclysm, maybe even man-made ("war in heaven") wiped it out. We are just the remnants of that who finally scratched our way back to technological civilization.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 01:50 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Kwak! at March 27, 2025 01:51 AM (1el72)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at March 27, 2025 01:53 AM (Frf47)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 27, 2025 01:54 AM (sAmhv)
That said, you can be put me in the camp that doesn't think it was crazy that there was a previous advanced civilization on this earth that was wiped out by some cataclysm, maybe Younger-Dryas around 10,000BC or so.
"Atlantis" was that civilization. Now, by advanced, I don't mean technological like we are, but maybe like the Romans.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 01:31 AM (w6EFb)
The Giza plateau, where the pyramids stand, is about 60 to 70 meters above sea level, so any shafts beneath the pyramids would likely be flooded now. Now, the Med basin was nearly dry for a long spell up to nearly Classical times, until the Strait of Gibraltar opened, so if shaft were sunk at Giza during the dry period, it could have been done, if the ancients could sink shafts. Maybe.
The methodology puzzles me. They say they did "radar tomology" using satellite radar. How did they get radar-sat time to do this? Can sat radar penetrate any distance into the ground at all? There are plenty of deep mines all over the world. Test on them.
Posted by: RMS Titanic at March 27, 2025 01:56 AM (8zz6B)
They had a hell of a pitching staff in the 90s!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 27, 2025 01:54 AM (sAmhv)
All sinkerball pitchers.
Posted by: RickZ at March 27, 2025 01:56 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 01:58 AM (8zz6B)
https://tinyurl.com/4sphskwf
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 27, 2025 01:58 AM (42Vb+)
It's something "proprietary" (you better un-proprietize that stat), and it involves synthetic aperture radar and *seismic* vibrations. Some interaction between the two mapping out underground structure.
From what I've read, well, they better prove this works. The raw data they have is very interpreted. The graphics they've made you see of the giant "wells" with coil like features winding around down to some large rectangular structure deep underneath is all this interpretation.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:01 AM (w6EFb)
This ties in with the "Hall of Records" legends. That civilization that may be Atlantis of legend knew destruction was coming, and built protected halls of records to preserve their knowledge and history.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:02 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:01 AM (w6EFb)
I already wrote this story for Harry Houdini.
Posted by: H.P. Lovecraft at March 27, 2025 02:06 AM (Frf47)
Posted by: RickZ at March 27, 2025 02:10 AM (gKDq2)
From what I've read, well, they better prove this works. The raw data they have is very interpreted. The graphics they've made you see of the giant "wells" with coil like features winding around down to some large rectangular structure deep underneath is all this interpretation.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:01 AM (w6EFb)
I would replace "interpretation" with "fabrication". Sounds closer to the mark. And did they buy time on radarsats to do this, or are they simply applying their own interpretation to existing radarsat datasets? And did the Egyptians allow them to set up seismic detectors around the Pyramids? They tend to be curmudgeonly about such things.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 02:10 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 02:17 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 27, 2025 02:27 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:27 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Lyrics from 'Fox on the Run'. Don't blame me, blame Manfred Mann
Everybody knows, the reason for the fall
When woman tempted man down in paradise’s hall
This woman tempted me, and took me for a ride
Like the lonely fox, I need a place to hide
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2025 02:29 AM (XeU6L)
That paper is about imaging the internal structure of the Great Pyramid using this technique. It's from 2022.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:38 AM (w6EFb)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 02:38 AM (w6EFb)
What interests me more about the Giza complex is the different ages of the Sphinx and the pyramids. I don't remember the exact number but it was thousands of years. Apparently, there is water erosion on the Sphynx from a time when the area had water/rain. From what I understand, there is no similar erosion on the pyramids.
That falls into 'older civilization died off and somebody built on top of it/added to it' theory.
Posted by: RickZ at March 27, 2025 03:01 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: RickZ at March 27, 2025 03:01 AM (gKDq2)
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The Sphinx is made of limestone. Junk!
The pyramids are made of much tougher stuff (as once featured here at the HQ):
https://youtu.be/znQk_yBHre4
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 27, 2025 03:12 AM (Te9F3)
The age of the Sphinx is one of those highly controversial things. The mainstream Egyptologists are adamant it's just about 4000 years old, built by Khafre.
The water erosion thing puts it way older than that.
And remember the pyramids originally had the limestone casing stones. Supposedly there were taken off over the years, stolen to be used elsewhere. They think most were gone by 900 AD or so. The timeline there I'm not sure.
When they had the casing stones, they would be shining brilliantly, truly a wonder of the world.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 27, 2025 03:14 AM (w6EFb)
They get their p.r. boost, maybe investment money and then quietly disappear. Science has a well known replication crisis, and this seems tailor made to capitalize on the current day "Nothing they told you can be trusted" mentality.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2025 03:37 AM (ZOv7s)
The Danish variation went something like this: players stand around the stump and start their own nails, which were at least 6 inches long. Someone goes first, and declares how many strikes he will take on his turn, from 1 to 3. Striker may distribute blows on any nail. Owner of first nail driven in drinks whatever the preset amount is, plus has to pay for all drinks for the duration of the round. Owners of subsequent nails driven in by another player drink. Driving in one’s own nail wins the round gives the winner the power to make/change/cancel a rule like in quarters. I don’t recall how the end of the game is determined, but I vaguely remember some kind of personal injury that may or may not have involved blood seemed to be a catalyst for putting up the hammers. Things got pretty hazy after that.
Posted by: Brennan at March 27, 2025 03:39 AM (IDWvw)
https://tinyurl.com/yc6yn2y5
It's like a shark attack!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 27, 2025 03:45 AM (Te9F3)
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2025 03:56 AM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2025 04:02 AM (fwDg9)
All seems to in order. (for ONTs)
So, I will just leave this these things here.
(songs, very safe for work, at least in most places)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZweyIKNwX4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja3EZc2-Qi0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chsw96FMkjQ
Posted by: somejoe at March 27, 2025 04:54 AM (RCAte)
I say to you, I definitely get annoyed while people think about worries
that they plainly do not know about. You managed
to hit the nail upon the top and defined out the whole thing
without having side-effects , people could take a signal.
Will probably be back to get more. Thanks
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