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Trump Set to Sign Executive Order Abolishing the Department of Education
I don't think he can abolish by executive order, as it is authorized by Congress.
A tactic he's using -- I think he did this with USAID -- is to defund/dismantle agencies to the "minimum level allowed by law." I expect that's what he'll do here -- he'll order government lawyers to look into the very minimum amount of funding and functionality of the DoEd required by law, and cut it to that level. Congress will have to take it from there.Trump is making Reagan look like a Bush. Speaking of Trump ending things that never should have begun:
President Donald Trump will sign an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, fulfilling a major campaign promise. The move shifts education authority back to states and parents, sparking fierce debate from both supporters and critics. Key Details: Trump has long criticized the agency, calling it a hub for "radicals, zealots, and Marxists." White House says the order will "empower parents" and refocus education on student outcomes. Critics, including teachers' unions, argue that only Congress can legally abolish the department. The executive order follows the Senate confirmation of Linda McMahon as Secretary of Education, who pledged to oversee the agency's closure. Congressional approval is required for full dissolution, but Trump aims to reduce its influence immediately. ... "The federal government has failed American students," Trump said in a statement. "For too long, unelected bureaucrats in Washington have pushed radical agendas while test scores plummet. It's time to return power to parents and local schools." The White House justified the decision by pointing to declining student performance, citing National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) scores, which reveal falling proficiency in math and reading. Additionally, the administration highlighted the strain placed on public schools by illegal immigration, arguing that resources have been diverted away from American students. "Over the past four years, Democrats have allowed millions of illegal minors into the country, straining school resources," said Harrison Fields, White House principal deputy press secretary. "Coupled with CRT and DEI indoctrination, this is harming our most vulnerable students." ... Despite Trump's executive order, Congress holds the ultimate authority to eliminate the agency. The Constitution's Article II requires legislative approval, and with only 53 Republican senators, the White House faces an uphill battle.
President Donald Trump held a "very good" call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Wednesday, following a preliminary agreement with Russian President Vladimir Putin one day earlier. Trump said the discussions focused on aligning Ukraine and Russia's "requests and needs" and that the ceasefire negotiations remain "on track." Key Details: Trump announced the call with Zelenskyy on Truth Social, stating it lasted about an hour and was largely based on the conversation he had with Putin on Tuesday. "Just completed a very good telephone call with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine," he wrote, adding that the talks centered on ensuring both sides' concerns were addressed. Putin agreed to halt strikes on Ukraine's energy infrastructure for 30 days, though the ceasefire has yet to extend to frontline combat or civilian areas. Special envoy Steve Witkoff suggested a full ceasefire could be reached in the coming weeks. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz will return to Saudi Arabia on Sunday to continue ceasefire negotiations, with a potential Trump-Putin meeting also on the table. It remains unclear whether a Ukrainian delegation will attend.
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:36 PM (lCaJd)
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Just Do It!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2025 03:36 PM (Cki93)
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That's New Math
That's New Math
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:36 PM (lCaJd)
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Still not tired
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (N1tpc)
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Good
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (PMtkd)
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FIRST
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (iFTx/)
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A tactic he's using -- I think he did this with USAID -- is to defund/dismantle agencies to the "minimum level allowed by law." I expect that's what he'll do here -- he'll order government lawyers to look into the very minimum amount of funding and functionality of the DoEd required by law, and cut it to that level.
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I saw that this is also the language in this EO on the Educated Department as well.
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I saw that this is also the language in this EO on the Educated Department as well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)
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Wasn’t it established by EO? Carter?
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
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This is what I voted for.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (wX56x)
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Hallelujah.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:38 PM (lTGtQ)
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8 Wasn’t it established by EO? Carter?
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
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Department of Education Organization Act.
1979.
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
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Department of Education Organization Act.
1979.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)
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Anything that was established by EO can be un-established by an EO. QED.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:38 PM (LweC0)
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Orange Man hates education!!!! America is stupid!!!!
Posted by: Social Media at March 20, 2025 03:39 PM (jGJov)
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12 Anything that was established by EO can be un-established by an EO. QED.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:38 PM (LweC0)
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Which doesn't include the Department of Education.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:38 PM (LweC0)
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Which doesn't include the Department of Education.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
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A tactic he's using -- I think he did this with USAID -- is to defund/dismantle agencies to the "minimum level allowed by law." I expect that's what he'll do here
Yeah basically he said that earlier today. And then he looks at congress and they shuffle around and look at everything else in the room and cough.
Yeah basically he said that earlier today. And then he looks at congress and they shuffle around and look at everything else in the room and cough.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2025 03:40 PM (2VST1)
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Critics, including teachers' unions--
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How do teachers' unions benefit from the DoE? It imposes tedious reporting duties on teachers, principals, etc. They could be hot-tubbing and shopping on Facebook instead.
Critics, including teachers' unions--
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How do teachers' unions benefit from the DoE? It imposes tedious reporting duties on teachers, principals, etc. They could be hot-tubbing and shopping on Facebook instead.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:40 PM (lCaJd)
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Congress will have to take it from there.
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With the government funded to the end of the fiscal year, it opens the opportunity for Congress to actually make these kinds of cuts.
Supposedly, it's been the strategy for a while.
But, Congress sucks and is awful, and I kind of doubt that they pull it off because excuses and Go Team Red.
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With the government funded to the end of the fiscal year, it opens the opportunity for Congress to actually make these kinds of cuts.
Supposedly, it's been the strategy for a while.
But, Congress sucks and is awful, and I kind of doubt that they pull it off because excuses and Go Team Red.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
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Of curse, this will have nearly zero effect on the amunt of education in this country, since schools are run by the states, not by the Feds.
But what it WILL do is IMPROVE the quality of educationl by removing the let0leaning Deep State influence onn state's curricula.
But what it WILL do is IMPROVE the quality of educationl by removing the let0leaning Deep State influence onn state's curricula.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (pMi6S)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (Zz0t1)
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Hey, you can still work here, but you can't use the building, or get paid.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (lTGtQ)
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18 Of curse, this will have nearly zero effect on the amunt of education in this country, since schools are run by the states, not by the Feds.
But what it WILL do is IMPROVE the quality of educationl by removing the let0leaning Deep State influence onn state's curricula.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (pMi6S)
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Every failing school in America will suddenly go from being an uncomfortable secret no one talks about to Trump's fault.
But what it WILL do is IMPROVE the quality of educationl by removing the let0leaning Deep State influence onn state's curricula.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (pMi6S)
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Every failing school in America will suddenly go from being an uncomfortable secret no one talks about to Trump's fault.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
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--> "left-leaning Deep State influence on states' curricula."
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (pMi6S)
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Learn to pick lettuce. I hear there is openings.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ewjUl)
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I Lum'd nood, you no noodlum'n bastages.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)
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I wish Goddessoftheclassroom was still around to enlighten us about actual teachers, what they do and what they think of this.
I wish Goddessoftheclassroom was still around to enlighten us about actual teachers, what they do and what they think of this.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (lCaJd)
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I think what he is doing is giving congress an ultimatum....either keep funding this piece of garbage useless department or turn it off completely. I don't see how this ever gets 60 votes in the senate though.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (e5NfL)
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Apparently "The Day The Earth Blew Up" is good, and dying at the box office. Because nobody is promoting it except RottenTomatoes critics whom nobody reads.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (gKWVE)
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"I don't think he can abolish by executive order, as it is authorized by Congress."
He certainly can, but no judge will have the fucking balls to bless that. Why? Because it would call into question every scumbag federal agency ever created.
I've long thought that every single time Congress tried to create a federal agency it was void ab initio. That's because all these agencies were created by Congress in the executive branch. How the fuck can they do that? All of these agencies are executive functions, and exist at the sole whim of the President.
He certainly can, but no judge will have the fucking balls to bless that. Why? Because it would call into question every scumbag federal agency ever created.
I've long thought that every single time Congress tried to create a federal agency it was void ab initio. That's because all these agencies were created by Congress in the executive branch. How the fuck can they do that? All of these agencies are executive functions, and exist at the sole whim of the President.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (iFTx/)
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"Trump is making Reagan look like a Bush."
Yes. DJT > RWR.
However, I think that is in the same way that Einstein > Newton. Two absolute giants.
Yes. DJT > RWR.
However, I think that is in the same way that Einstein > Newton. Two absolute giants.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (1Ou2I)
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Learn to pick lettuce. I hear there is openings.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ewjUl)
Walnuts, pecans, and peanuts.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ewjUl)
Walnuts, pecans, and peanuts.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (VNX3d)
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26 I think what he is doing is giving congress an ultimatum....either keep funding this piece of garbage useless department or turn it off completely. I don't see how this ever gets 60 votes in the senate though.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (e5NfL)
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The budget bill, which would include defunding of Education, will be passed by Reconciliation, requiring only 50 votes +1.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (e5NfL)
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The budget bill, which would include defunding of Education, will be passed by Reconciliation, requiring only 50 votes +1.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
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I would like to see Randi Weingarten launched into the Gulf of America via the worlds largest slingshot.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (ewjUl)
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Collins , Murk, Mitch and a few other GOPe types will curl up in fetal balls and suck their thumbs before they vote to keep the DoEd alive.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (bVN1m)
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Learn to pick lettuce. I hear there is openings.
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ewjUl)
Walnuts, pecans, and peanuts.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM
Perfect!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ewjUl)
Walnuts, pecans, and peanuts.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM
Perfect!
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (ewjUl)
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this just in: a federal judge has issued a temporary restraining order requiring putin to continue bombing ukrainian infrastructure until germany surrenders.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (CWTWj)
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A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste.
Posted by: United Negro College Fund at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (u5iGG)
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33 Collins , Murk, Mitch and a few other GOPe types will curl up in fetal balls and suck their thumbs before they vote to keep the DoEd alive.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (bVN1m)
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Thune could lose all three and still pass the budget with a zeroed out Education Department.
The guy managed to get every cabinet nominee through, even Hegseth and Patel.
We have a better chance with Thune than we ever had with McConnell in charge.
Still...25% at best.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (bVN1m)
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Thune could lose all three and still pass the budget with a zeroed out Education Department.
The guy managed to get every cabinet nominee through, even Hegseth and Patel.
We have a better chance with Thune than we ever had with McConnell in charge.
Still...25% at best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)
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Best way to get rid of the DOE is to make an XO that it should concentrate on teaching the greatness of the GOP, Lincoln, Trump, America and basic 4 Rs
Dems would beg for a bill to get rid of the department to stop that.
Dems would beg for a bill to get rid of the department to stop that.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (4pwAx)
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>>I would like to see Randi Weingarten launched into the Gulf of America via the worlds largest slingshot.
They could put it on PPV and raise millions!
They could put it on PPV and raise millions!
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (Cki93)
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How do teachers' unions benefit from the DoE?
actual teachers i know dislike all the D0E stuff -- one more layer of tedious administration to deal with on top of all the other tedious administration
the unions on the other hand -- I'm sure they get their graft from it
actual teachers i know dislike all the D0E stuff -- one more layer of tedious administration to deal with on top of all the other tedious administration
the unions on the other hand -- I'm sure they get their graft from it
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (jGJov)
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With the government funded to the end of the fiscal year, it opens the opportunity for Congress to actually make these kinds of cuts.
Supposedly, it's been the strategy for a while.
But, Congress sucks and is awful, and I kind of doubt that they pull it off because excuses and Go Team Red.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I have been shocked at the discipline so far.
Supposedly, it's been the strategy for a while.
But, Congress sucks and is awful, and I kind of doubt that they pull it off because excuses and Go Team Red.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I have been shocked at the discipline so far.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (AOsQT)
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Which doesn't include the Department of Education.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
Didn't stop Biden. Also, how can Congress establish a Department in the Executive Branch? Null and void, I would say. But then, I'm not a lefty judge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:39 PM (GBKbO)
Didn't stop Biden. Also, how can Congress establish a Department in the Executive Branch? Null and void, I would say. But then, I'm not a lefty judge.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (LweC0)
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How am I supposed to know Why It Matters if no one tells me.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (T7bgo)
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I just got mindfucked.
Youtube just recommended to me a new video by Daniel Baldwin. First, he looks and sounds exactly like his older brother Alexander. But he's claiming he's no longer a Democrat, and apparently, he's a Trump supporter. It's like Alternate Universe shit going on, here.
But here's the thing: I'm pretty certain Danny Baldwin made some unhinged anti-Trump remarks in the past, and kinda recently, too.
When did this conversion happen? Is he for real? I dunno.
I just got mindfucked.
Youtube just recommended to me a new video by Daniel Baldwin. First, he looks and sounds exactly like his older brother Alexander. But he's claiming he's no longer a Democrat, and apparently, he's a Trump supporter. It's like Alternate Universe shit going on, here.
But here's the thing: I'm pretty certain Danny Baldwin made some unhinged anti-Trump remarks in the past, and kinda recently, too.
When did this conversion happen? Is he for real? I dunno.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (WMYRW)
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No 'newd' alert?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (KgD/S)
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Corrupt (Meaning All)Teachers Unions hardest hit ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (I8uWL)
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A competitive marketplace for schools would vastly improve thenquality of education across-the-board, as parents could choose the better-performing schools and abandon the poor-performing schools.
As a result, 1. More students would be in god schools, and B. the fortmerly porr-perfoming schools would HAVE TO up the game or lose ALL students, and thus shutn down. So they would improve, as would all chools as they compete for "custimers"/students.
If it works for free-market capitalism, it will work for edcuation.
As a result, 1. More students would be in god schools, and B. the fortmerly porr-perfoming schools would HAVE TO up the game or lose ALL students, and thus shutn down. So they would improve, as would all chools as they compete for "custimers"/students.
If it works for free-market capitalism, it will work for edcuation.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (pMi6S)
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42 I have been shocked at the discipline so far.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (lTGtQ)
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It's true.
Only one House member was allowed to gadfly, and it affected nothing.
Three Senate members were allowed to gadfly, and it affected nothing.
It's interesting.
Doubt remains, though.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (lTGtQ)
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It's true.
Only one House member was allowed to gadfly, and it affected nothing.
Three Senate members were allowed to gadfly, and it affected nothing.
It's interesting.
Doubt remains, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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The budget bill, which would include defunding of Education, will be passed by Reconciliation, requiring only 50 votes +1.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
Trump could say every dollar allocated to DoE above the minimum required will be put into reducing the deficit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
Trump could say every dollar allocated to DoE above the minimum required will be put into reducing the deficit.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (KgD/S)
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No 'newd' alert?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (KgD/S)
I did, but the new thread was over 20 deep because these guys just don't care......
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (KgD/S)
I did, but the new thread was over 20 deep because these guys just don't care......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)
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It's a terrible thing to waste one's mind.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
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Relating to the last thread. So can we target any business and product or consumer of anything related to Soros or Buffet? I mean, it's funny, right Jimmuh Kimmel
Posted by: Minnfidel at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (ewjUl)
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He's no Adam Baldwin
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (T7bgo)
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35 this just in: a federal judge has issued a temporary restraining order requiring putin to continue bombing ukrainian infrastructure until germany surrenders.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (CWTWj)
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
Posted by: gnats local 678 at March 20, 2025 03:44 PM (CWTWj)
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (LweC0)
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54 It's a terrible thing to waste one's mind.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
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I waste them on potatoes.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
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I waste them on potatoes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm aiming to boost my 7-typos-per-comment average.Typo All-Star Game, here I come!
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (pMi6S)
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Dept of Education is just another liberal slush fund.
No one actually sees the benefits. Of course the teachers union will shriek about Republicans making cuts, but theyd say the same thing if the budget was doubled.
Bush flooded these sorts of departments with federal money with "no Child Left Behind" and did you every see educators praise Bush?
No one actually sees the benefits. Of course the teachers union will shriek about Republicans making cuts, but theyd say the same thing if the budget was doubled.
Bush flooded these sorts of departments with federal money with "no Child Left Behind" and did you every see educators praise Bush?
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (4pwAx)
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41 How do teachers' unions benefit from the DoE?
actual teachers i know dislike all the D0E stuff -- one more layer of tedious administration to deal with on top of all the other tedious administration
the unions on the other hand -- I'm sure they get their graft from it
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (jGJov)
There is a union that represents teachers. There is no union that represents students.
actual teachers i know dislike all the D0E stuff -- one more layer of tedious administration to deal with on top of all the other tedious administration
the unions on the other hand -- I'm sure they get their graft from it
Posted by: brak at March 20, 2025 03:45 PM (jGJov)
There is a union that represents teachers. There is no union that represents students.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
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DU this morning called it the "end of education" in America.
Huh.
So how did we get "educated" before 1976?
Huh.
So how did we get "educated" before 1976?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (MC8h6)
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But how can we edjukate owr kidzz if we don't have a department of edjukashun?
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (8iNlE)
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62 DU this morning called it the "end of education" in America.
Huh.
So how did we get "educated" before 1976?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (MC8h6)
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How? Much better.
Huh.
So how did we get "educated" before 1976?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (MC8h6)
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How? Much better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
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Best way to get rid of the DOE is to make an XO that it should concentrate on teaching the greatness of the GOP, Lincoln, Trump, America and basic 4 Rs
Dems would beg for a bill to get rid of the department to stop that.
Posted by: Oldcat
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What's the fourth R?
Dems would beg for a bill to get rid of the department to stop that.
Posted by: Oldcat
________
What's the fourth R?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (Dm8we)
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54 It's a terrible thing to waste one's mind.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
A mind is a terrible thing
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
A mind is a terrible thing
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (8iNlE)
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... he'll order government lawyers to look into the very minimum amount of funding and functionality of the DoEd required by law, and cut it to that level.
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Reduce the Department to a single position -- Secretary of Education -- that's paid a dollar per anum.
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Reduce the Department to a single position -- Secretary of Education -- that's paid a dollar per anum.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (HWUCC)
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I'm pretty certain Danny Baldwin made some unhinged anti-Trump remarks in the past, and kinda recently, too.
When did this conversion happen? Is he for real? I dunno.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I don't know anything about Daniel Baldwin, but it happens. Another actor, Michael Rappaport, made a similar radical and quick-ish conversion.
I'm pretty certain Danny Baldwin made some unhinged anti-Trump remarks in the past, and kinda recently, too.
When did this conversion happen? Is he for real? I dunno.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I don't know anything about Daniel Baldwin, but it happens. Another actor, Michael Rappaport, made a similar radical and quick-ish conversion.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
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So how did we get "educated" before 1976?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (MC8h6)
Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (MC8h6)
Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (WMYRW)
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How? Much better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
Even more than abortion, everyone involved in teaching is part of a weird hive mind cult. It is bizarre when you encounter it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)
Even more than abortion, everyone involved in teaching is part of a weird hive mind cult. It is bizarre when you encounter it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (bss/y)
72
Can Trump simply not spend the money Congress dictates goes to his own Department? Leave the money in limbo and defund on his own? I don't know why not. He is the Executive.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (LweC0)
73
There is a union that represents teachers. There is no union that represents students.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
There are student unions at universities. But they are hives of Marxist lunacy.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
There are student unions at universities. But they are hives of Marxist lunacy.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (pMi6S)
74
When did this conversion happen? Is he for real? I dunno.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I don't know anything about Daniel Baldwin, but it happens. Another actor, Michael Rappaport, made a similar radical and quick-ish conversion.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
If they make it back to the limelight and have unlimited funds, they'll go RIGHT BACK to being lib shittards.
When did this conversion happen? Is he for real? I dunno.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I don't know anything about Daniel Baldwin, but it happens. Another actor, Michael Rappaport, made a similar radical and quick-ish conversion.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
If they make it back to the limelight and have unlimited funds, they'll go RIGHT BACK to being lib shittards.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)
75
Best way to get rid of the DOE is to make an XO that it should concentrate on teaching the greatness of the GOP, Lincoln, Trump, America and basic 4 Rs
Dems would beg for a bill to get rid of the department to stop that.
Posted by: Oldcat
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What's the fourth R?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (Dm8we)
Reading, 'Riting, 'Rithmatic, and Reasoning?
Dems would beg for a bill to get rid of the department to stop that.
Posted by: Oldcat
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What's the fourth R?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (Dm8we)
Reading, 'Riting, 'Rithmatic, and Reasoning?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (VNX3d)
76
71
Even more than abortion, everyone involved in teaching is part of a weird hive mind cult. It is bizarre when you encounter it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (bss/y)
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They are up on the latest education theories.
You're not.
Fuck you, peasant.
Even more than abortion, everyone involved in teaching is part of a weird hive mind cult. It is bizarre when you encounter it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (bss/y)
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They are up on the latest education theories.
You're not.
Fuck you, peasant.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)
77
I expect a judge to say so, but with the EO saying to a minimum level required by law, what could they complain about, especially after the USAID has pretty much been taken care of.
Posted by: Black JEM at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (GZYu7)
78
72 Can Trump simply not spend the money Congress dictates goes to his own Department? Leave the money in limbo and defund on his own? I don't know why not. He is the Executive.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (LweC0)
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The Impoundment Control Act of 1974 says no.
Probably unconstitutional, but that's the law.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (LweC0)
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The Impoundment Control Act of 1974 says no.
Probably unconstitutional, but that's the law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)
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Trump's EO is not to abolish the Department of Ed because, as you note, he can't do that.
What he can do is direct the Secretary of Ed - who is his direct subordinate - to take all actions necessary to PREPARE for the elimination of the department.
What he can do is direct the Secretary of Ed - who is his direct subordinate - to take all actions necessary to PREPARE for the elimination of the department.
Posted by: blaster at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (xhfG9)
80
Fuck you, peasant.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)
Right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (GBKbO)
Right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (bss/y)
81
>>How do teachers' unions benefit from the DoE?
A guess?
Takes money out of local control, and it is doled back to the schools via grants that fund *their* programs, that force compliance with *their* requirements*.
If these grants are anything like the ones we've seen w/USAID, then they are likely big graft opportunities and the way to reward local organizations, Commie teachers and administrators.
*Example: Some federal funds are based on free school lunch participation - the higher the participation, the more federal funds. They are blatantly using DoE money to create local kids' dependence on free food from the state.
A guess?
Takes money out of local control, and it is doled back to the schools via grants that fund *their* programs, that force compliance with *their* requirements*.
If these grants are anything like the ones we've seen w/USAID, then they are likely big graft opportunities and the way to reward local organizations, Commie teachers and administrators.
*Example: Some federal funds are based on free school lunch participation - the higher the participation, the more federal funds. They are blatantly using DoE money to create local kids' dependence on free food from the state.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (Cki93)
82
"Trump is making Reagan look like a Bush."
Yes. DJT > RWR.
However, I think that is in the same way that Einstein > Newton. Two absolute giants.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (1Ou2I)
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I think Reagan was the Trump of his time. It was just a very different time.
Yes. DJT > RWR.
However, I think that is in the same way that Einstein > Newton. Two absolute giants.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:42 PM (1Ou2I)
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I think Reagan was the Trump of his time. It was just a very different time.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)
83
What's the fourth R?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (Dm8we)
Readin', Writin', Rythmatic, and Right Back Atcha.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (Dm8we)
Readin', Writin', Rythmatic, and Right Back Atcha.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (LweC0)
84
I don't know anything about Daniel Baldwin, but it happens. Another actor, Michael Rappaport, made a similar radical and quick-ish conversion.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
Is Rappaport a MAGA guy now? IIRC he supports Israel. I just remember him as a vocal lefty tool.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
Is Rappaport a MAGA guy now? IIRC he supports Israel. I just remember him as a vocal lefty tool.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (wX56x)
85
If not already stated, Trump can absolutely demote the DoE to a sub-cabinet level position today. Because it was elevated to cabinet level via a Carter EO.
Posted by: Taking Notes at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (DM9Kv)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (lTGtQ)
87
Every failing school in America will suddenly go from being an uncomfortable secret no one talks about to Trump's fault.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
as long as it becomes "something we need to fix locally" then I am fine with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)
as long as it becomes "something we need to fix locally" then I am fine with it.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (D7oie)
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73 There is a union that represents teachers. There is no union that represents students.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
There are student unions at universities. But they are hives of Marxist lunacy.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (pMi6S)
We had a Black Student Union back in the 70's in High School... basically just a social club though...
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
There are student unions at universities. But they are hives of Marxist lunacy.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (pMi6S)
We had a Black Student Union back in the 70's in High School... basically just a social club though...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (QAkQ3)
89
I'm not sure defunding the department to a 0.00 budget gets rid of it.
On paper it would still exist and a D president or congress could simply refill the coffers.
Seems like the Act that created it would have to be rescinded, which would be a tougher sell than zeroing out the dept. in reconciliation.
Prolly not going to happen.
On paper it would still exist and a D president or congress could simply refill the coffers.
Seems like the Act that created it would have to be rescinded, which would be a tougher sell than zeroing out the dept. in reconciliation.
Prolly not going to happen.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (FCbAQ)
90
Of curse, this will have nearly zero effect on the amunt of education in this country, since schools are run by the states, not by the Feds.
But what it WILL do is IMPROVE the quality of educationl by removing the let0leaning Deep State influence onn state's curricula.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (pMi6S)
Its like the EU being put atop the leftist leaning socialist basic European states. Being able to point the finger at another indifferent, corrupt group means nothing gets done squared.
But what it WILL do is IMPROVE the quality of educationl by removing the let0leaning Deep State influence onn state's curricula.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:41 PM (pMi6S)
Its like the EU being put atop the leftist leaning socialist basic European states. Being able to point the finger at another indifferent, corrupt group means nothing gets done squared.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (n7h9X)
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87 as long as it becomes "something we need to fix locally" then I am fine with it.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (D7oie)
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"This sentence makes no sense whatsoever."
-Everyone to the left of...Ted Cruz
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (D7oie)
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"This sentence makes no sense whatsoever."
-Everyone to the left of...Ted Cruz
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (GBKbO)
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11 8 Wasn’t it established by EO? Carter?
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
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Department of Education Organization Act.
1979.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yep. To do so, they split up the old Health, Education, and Welfare into DoE and HHS departments.
There used to be an Office of Education that became more important in the late 50's with Science funding after Sputnik and then it grew like topsy. Used to be an advisory office way back when it was established (1953) then spending functions were tacked on.
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
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Department of Education Organization Act.
1979.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Yep. To do so, they split up the old Health, Education, and Welfare into DoE and HHS departments.
There used to be an Office of Education that became more important in the late 50's with Science funding after Sputnik and then it grew like topsy. Used to be an advisory office way back when it was established (1953) then spending functions were tacked on.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (ctrM5)
93
Get that cutthroat, ballbuster McMahon in here to chop some heads and plunge the commode.
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 20, 2025 03:52 PM (fY84s)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at March 20, 2025 03:52 PM (zAWN6)
95
The Dems 4 Rs of education are
Murder, communism, illegals and Trannies. Yup the four Rs
Murder, communism, illegals and Trannies. Yup the four Rs
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2025 03:52 PM (bVN1m)
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I think Rapaport is still a deranged leftist but he is in the process of seeing the light over Israel. I think they tried to shut him down for supporting Jews. Very progressive people.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:52 PM (T7bgo)
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then spending functions were tacked on.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (ctrM5)
So.... untack. Right?
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (ctrM5)
So.... untack. Right?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (KtIIi)
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86 What's the fourth R?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
Based on recent news stories, rape.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (lTGtQ)
Recidivism?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
Based on recent news stories, rape.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (lTGtQ)
Recidivism?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (bss/y)
99
The kids can't read, can't write, and can't think. Triple threats!
Posted by: Urethra Franklin at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (D7oie)
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Here's a decent article from The Hill on the Ukraine conflict. It's really the first western media article I've read that covers what I've seen researching this since the beginning of the conflict. Also, the European Court on Human Rights found the Ukraine gov't guilty of the deaths in the Odessa massacre. Not a single person was arrested.
The Hill
https://tinyurl.com/3kdcuh97
Burned alive in Odessa
https://tinyurl.com/dvt8wajz
This is the democracy we were told we needed to defend.
The Hill
https://tinyurl.com/3kdcuh97
Burned alive in Odessa
https://tinyurl.com/dvt8wajz
This is the democracy we were told we needed to defend.
Posted by: ryukyu at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (CQ1dd)
102
It's a terrible thing to waste one's mind.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
A mind is a terrible thing
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (8iNlE)
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Eggs are so valuable now, they can't run the "This is your brain on drugs" commercials anymore.
Posted by: Dan Quayle at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (lTGtQ)
A mind is a terrible thing
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (8iNlE)
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Eggs are so valuable now, they can't run the "This is your brain on drugs" commercials anymore.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (HWUCC)
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I'm not sure defunding the department to a 0.00 budget gets rid of it.
On paper it would still exist and a D president or congress could simply refill the coffers.
Seems like the Act that created it would have to be rescinded, which would be a tougher sell than zeroing out the dept. in reconciliation.
Prolly not going to happen.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (FCbAQ)
Sure but that requires a lot of effort which these people don't do that often or well. That's what gives them the permanent slot in the budget for the big bux.
On paper it would still exist and a D president or congress could simply refill the coffers.
Seems like the Act that created it would have to be rescinded, which would be a tougher sell than zeroing out the dept. in reconciliation.
Prolly not going to happen.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 20, 2025 03:51 PM (FCbAQ)
Sure but that requires a lot of effort which these people don't do that often or well. That's what gives them the permanent slot in the budget for the big bux.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 03:53 PM (lTGtQ)
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We be needs the Deportments of Educatopin becuase I be grandukated from Hi Schrool and cans reed at a 6th grades level.
Childrin will be unedercated with outs the Givernmint Agercency.
I be gots a minimin wages job at COSTCO stocking the shelf in the Produce departmints.
Childrin will be unedercated with outs the Givernmint Agercency.
I be gots a minimin wages job at COSTCO stocking the shelf in the Produce departmints.
Posted by: Dweasel McDueshe at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (gaVwl)
106
Rape, Reading, Writing and Rape
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (T7bgo)
107
The mind is a terrible thing
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (AOsQT)
108
I think Rapaport is still a deranged leftist but he is in the process of seeing the light over Israel. I think they tried to shut him down for supporting Jews. Very progressive people.
Posted by: ...
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October 7 opened his eyes. He's now supports Trump, but you're right, he might be a single-issue guy who's still a commie in every other way.
I think Rapaport is still a deranged leftist but he is in the process of seeing the light over Israel. I think they tried to shut him down for supporting Jews. Very progressive people.
Posted by: ...
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October 7 opened his eyes. He's now supports Trump, but you're right, he might be a single-issue guy who's still a commie in every other way.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (lCaJd)
109
Every year my son was in public skool, I got a call from the "counselors" asking to enroll my son in Title Whatever for Indian Education. Seems the school got Federal dollars for enrolling students in special education programs for the poor, stupid natives. They took one look at him and figured he belonged. Then they asked which Federally-recognized tribe he was from. I told him he was Mayan. They said that wasn't recognized so he didn't need the program. He went from stupid to smart in one small comment. It is all about the money, not the kids.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (LweC0)
110
We don't need no education.
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (lG+X1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (KgD/S)
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (FhXTo)
113
The 4th "r" is always rape.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (vQCgN)
114
The 4th R is 'recess'
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (AOsQT)
115
Eggs are so valuable now, they can't run the "This is your brain on drugs" commercials anymore.
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Speaking of which, one of my favorite quotes is from Lily Tomlin:
"Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs."
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Speaking of which, one of my favorite quotes is from Lily Tomlin:
"Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs."
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (HWUCC)
116
Maybe those SWAT team weapons will go surplus.
Posted by: Francis at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (bbuBP)
117
Trump does crazy shit lately that fence-sitters seem to be lapping up.
Democrats are doing crazy shit that is making even fairly solid supporters think they are actually cognitively impaired.
Which number was that Alinsky rule, again? Something something that your people enjoy?
Democrats are doing crazy shit that is making even fairly solid supporters think they are actually cognitively impaired.
Which number was that Alinsky rule, again? Something something that your people enjoy?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (KtIIi)
118
Democrats and their insane allies are so beside themselves they don't know which way to scream.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (tT6L1)
119
I don't know anything about Daniel Baldwin, but it happens. Another actor, Michael Rappaport, made a similar radical and quick-ish conversion.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
A cynic might suggest that C listers will do what ever they think it'll take to stay relevant for one more day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:48 PM (lCaJd)
A cynic might suggest that C listers will do what ever they think it'll take to stay relevant for one more day.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (FCbAQ)
120
There is a union that represents teachers. There is no union that represents students.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
There are student unions at universities. But they are hives of Marxist lunacy.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (pMi6S)
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I was in some student unions. More of a social club with some vague academic "hook" to make it palatable to the school. There were some pretty girls there, so ... "where pretty girls are, well you know that I'm around."
Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 20, 2025 03:47 PM (1Ou2I)
There are student unions at universities. But they are hives of Marxist lunacy.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:49 PM (pMi6S)
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I was in some student unions. More of a social club with some vague academic "hook" to make it palatable to the school. There were some pretty girls there, so ... "where pretty girls are, well you know that I'm around."
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:55 PM (iFTx/)
121
REEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (lG+X1)
122
Over/under on the four-eyed pig f*cker Johnson folding like a cheap tent.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (/U5Yz)
123
Isn't the fat "lady" that heads the Teacher's Union telling everyone she was against shut-downs?
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (vQCgN)
124
Eggs are so valuable now, they can't run the "This is your brain on drugs" commercials anymore.
Posted by: ShainS -
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Just a funny aside, Chanel now sells these micro bags that are kind of egg-shaped and egg-sized. I was watching a fashion youtuber who said you could more easily afford the bag than an egg these days.
Eggs are so valuable now, they can't run the "This is your brain on drugs" commercials anymore.
Posted by: ShainS -
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Just a funny aside, Chanel now sells these micro bags that are kind of egg-shaped and egg-sized. I was watching a fashion youtuber who said you could more easily afford the bag than an egg these days.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (lCaJd)
125
btw, I immediately typed a nasty comment to Danny Baldwin asking him if his brother Alex shot anyone today.
Before I posted the comment I glanced at the other comments and they weren't what I expected so I actually watched the video. Anyway, I ended up leaving a positive comment and I think I "liked" the video.
btw, I immediately typed a nasty comment to Danny Baldwin asking him if his brother Alex shot anyone today.
Before I posted the comment I glanced at the other comments and they weren't what I expected so I actually watched the video. Anyway, I ended up leaving a positive comment and I think I "liked" the video.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (WMYRW)
126
I ask my teacher friends what can Trump's federal department do better for our kids than our own local government, teachers and administrators?
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (wBaIH)
127
4th R - Railin' (the students)
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 20, 2025 03:56 PM (Aqu9a)
128
What type of eggs are they talking about?
The ones at Aldi or those which are free-range, non-GMO?
The ones at Aldi or those which are free-range, non-GMO?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (KgD/S)
129
As good as "local control" sounds, be very aware of this:
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
130
There was a couple of us here in 2016 who said Trump could be like Reagan. Then again I took a lot of stick for just mentioning that he was like *Breitbart*.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (T7bgo)
131
We don't need no education.
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (lG+X1)
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"All in all you're just another schtick in The Wall."
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (lG+X1)
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"All in all you're just another schtick in The Wall."
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (oIShL)
132
Speaking of eggs...
are the Cadbury Eggs on the shelves, yet?
Probably, right? For weeks, right?
Speaking of eggs...
are the Cadbury Eggs on the shelves, yet?
Probably, right? For weeks, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (WMYRW)
133
129 As good as "local control" sounds, be very aware of this:
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
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I'm surprisingly fine with this.
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
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I'm surprisingly fine with this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)
134
"Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer "
And it gets sadder the farther back you go.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer "
And it gets sadder the farther back you go.
Posted by: eleven at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (0HaGk)
135
The fourth R is RAAAAAAACISSSSMMMMM!!!!
Posted by: Land Whales of Worcester at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (qUkBO)
136
In Reagan's defense he was up against the formidable foreign commies of the USSR and the NSWP as well as the domestic, who, admittedly, are proving to be in many ways worse.
Posted by: David Hogg at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (47/pr)
137
Anyone see any PEEPS 2025, yet?
Anyone see any PEEPS 2025, yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (WMYRW)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (WMYRW)
139
112 Einstein > Newton.
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (FhXTo)
Fig Newtons >Einstein > Newton.
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (FhXTo)
Fig Newtons >Einstein > Newton.
Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (dIske)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (Dm8we)
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I be gots a minimin wages job at COSTCO stocking the shelf in the Produce departmints.
Posted by: Dweasel McDueshe at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (gaVwl)
You are dumb. You're make 12 dollars an hour less than everyone else stocking shelves there.
Posted by: Dweasel McDueshe at March 20, 2025 03:54 PM (gaVwl)
You are dumb. You're make 12 dollars an hour less than everyone else stocking shelves there.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (v0R5T)
143
Where my PEEPS at?
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (lG+X1)
144
Government tried to take out President Trump.
Government lost.
President Trump decided to take out government.
I think President Trump just might win.
Government lost.
President Trump decided to take out government.
I think President Trump just might win.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 03:58 PM (tT6L1)
145
I'm starting to think Henley was a CIA stooge.
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (vQCgN)
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I think Reagan was the Trump of his time. It was just a very different time.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)
The issue then was ending the Cold War which he did. Nobody else could imagine different. Today's Neocons want a new cold war because they were the junior office jockeys then and loved it. They are a faction that make up the deep state.
Trump now is trying to end the deep state itself.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)
The issue then was ending the Cold War which he did. Nobody else could imagine different. Today's Neocons want a new cold war because they were the junior office jockeys then and loved it. They are a faction that make up the deep state.
Trump now is trying to end the deep state itself.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (n7h9X)
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When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
The difference is subsidy.
It's expensive to run a school into the ground that hard.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
The difference is subsidy.
It's expensive to run a school into the ground that hard.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (KtIIi)
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A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste.
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A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
/Marching Wegovy chubby zombies
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A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
/Marching Wegovy chubby zombies
Posted by: muldoon at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (/iMjX)
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I've said it before, but when I was in HS in the 80's, if you missed school on the day of a test, when you returned, you took a completely different test than what was given on test day.
My kids school, in Iowa no less, (home of the ITBS) if you failed a test, you got to retake the exact same test as many times as needed to get a passing score. This was the result of, IIRC, the Bush/Kennedy No Child Left Behind.
My kids school, in Iowa no less, (home of the ITBS) if you failed a test, you got to retake the exact same test as many times as needed to get a passing score. This was the result of, IIRC, the Bush/Kennedy No Child Left Behind.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (6TlG5)
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A cynic might suggest that C listers will do what ever they think it'll take to stay relevant for one more day.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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Bingo.
Cool if someone nobody decides to no longer support Democrats, but to me it almost always looks like a way to get attention.
Or they were always more right-leaning and now that their career is over, they can be honest.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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Bingo.
Cool if someone nobody decides to no longer support Democrats, but to me it almost always looks like a way to get attention.
Or they were always more right-leaning and now that their career is over, they can be honest.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (4pwAx)
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The Impoundment Control Act of 1974 says no.
Probably unconstitutional, but that's the law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Problem is getting standing the challenge that. Congress as a body might, dunno about states, local, or grant recipients.
Probably unconstitutional, but that's the law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Problem is getting standing the challenge that. Congress as a body might, dunno about states, local, or grant recipients.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie
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You also spread the bad. When the State of California decides to buy a particular textbook, it gets cheaper for other states to buy it, too. So California gets to determine curriculum for many other states.
insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie
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You also spread the bad. When the State of California decides to buy a particular textbook, it gets cheaper for other states to buy it, too. So California gets to determine curriculum for many other states.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (lCaJd)
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Peeps on east coast
Posted by: Francis at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (bbuBP)
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Thar child hating lesbian communist Weingarten is going to be very mas.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (wtvvX)
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Prometheus > Fig Newtons >Einstein > Newton
Posted by: Dr Spank at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (vQCgN)
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I want anyone at the Department of Ed to name something they've done that has had a measurable positive effect on kids in public schools.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (PMtkd)
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As good as "local control" sounds, be very aware of this:
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
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Yes, but it's already like that. DoE was mostly just a flush fund and money-laundering operation for the Democrap party. Get rid of DoE, nothing changes except Democraps lose a fat money stream.
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
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Yes, but it's already like that. DoE was mostly just a flush fund and money-laundering operation for the Democrap party. Get rid of DoE, nothing changes except Democraps lose a fat money stream.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 04:00 PM (iFTx/)
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I'm surprisingly fine with this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
What this will ultimately lead to is a competition among the states, with parents fleeing crazy/woke states to states with better education systems -- so in the long run the sane stataes will have improved economies while the woke states will be bankrupt wastelands. But that will take a long time.
I'm surprisingly fine with this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
What this will ultimately lead to is a competition among the states, with parents fleeing crazy/woke states to states with better education systems -- so in the long run the sane stataes will have improved economies while the woke states will be bankrupt wastelands. But that will take a long time.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (pMi6S)
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Current status: still most likely secretly mort, but on ice
Current status: still most likely secretly mort, but on ice
Posted by: Pope Watch at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (WMYRW)
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I think Reagan was the Trump of his time. It was just a very different time.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. The Fedgov blob was not nearly as horrendous then. The Dept of Education was a new creature.
What’s more is that the unitary executive was just a theory at the time. Many of the things Trump is accomplishing today required the groundwork laud by Reagan and the conservative movement in the 80s.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)
Agreed. The Fedgov blob was not nearly as horrendous then. The Dept of Education was a new creature.
What’s more is that the unitary executive was just a theory at the time. Many of the things Trump is accomplishing today required the groundwork laud by Reagan and the conservative movement in the 80s.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (/q9k6)
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Speaking of eggs...
are the Cadbury Eggs on the shelves, yet?
Probably, right? For weeks, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (WMYRW)
Biden shot 10 million chocolate egg makers because of bird flu.
are the Cadbury Eggs on the shelves, yet?
Probably, right? For weeks, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (WMYRW)
Biden shot 10 million chocolate egg makers because of bird flu.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (n7h9X)
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151 Problem is getting standing the challenge that. Congress as a body might, dunno about states, local, or grant recipients.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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If the Supreme Court can't be proactive in its pursuit of knocking down unconstitutional laws and has to wait for the perfect opportunity and set of circumstances, then the Supreme Court is a terrible body to determine constitutionality.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)
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If the Supreme Court can't be proactive in its pursuit of knocking down unconstitutional laws and has to wait for the perfect opportunity and set of circumstances, then the Supreme Court is a terrible body to determine constitutionality.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (PMtkd)
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California is already an economic wasteland with a budget deficit.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (KgD/S)
Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (WMYRW)
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As far as fed versus local control, I live in a Republican area and my kids education is totally woke.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)
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Keep on flooding the box.
Posted by: 13times at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (T7m9r)
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The Department of Education should be there to set some sort of national standard of what gets taught in each grade level, so that if a kid has to move to another state, there is no big shock like finding out in this new state, he should have already learned how to multiply fractions, or whatever.
Other than that, wtf else does the DoE do? It could be run by 2 people, and that's only to cover lunches, breaks and sick days.
Other than that, wtf else does the DoE do? It could be run by 2 people, and that's only to cover lunches, breaks and sick days.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (Vvh2V)
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (v0R5T)
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159 What this will ultimately lead to is a competition among the states, with parents fleeing crazy/woke states to states with better education systems -- so in the long run the sane stataes will have improved economies while the woke states will be bankrupt wastelands. But that will take a long time.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (pMi6S)
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Which was my thinking.
But even then, it's not like there's some narrow band of quality for public schools in America.
We're already seeing vast difference in quality, and it's obviously some part of the Great Migration (which I keep assuming is just continuing and has since 2020 and the BLM riots).
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (pMi6S)
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Which was my thinking.
But even then, it's not like there's some narrow band of quality for public schools in America.
We're already seeing vast difference in quality, and it's obviously some part of the Great Migration (which I keep assuming is just continuing and has since 2020 and the BLM riots).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Reagan beat the Soviets without firing a shot so to speak. Trump is beating the deepstate leftover from that earlier victory's wake.
Posted by: Black JEM at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (GZYu7)
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When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
However, when you make the schools worse, more students are pulled out of the system. This is a net gain. The number of homeschooled kids in AK is becoming staggering. The Anchorage School District is closing four schools this year, more next. The charter schools are doing well and expanding. The homeschool programs are bursting at the seams. I homeschooled the boy during Covid and didn't even break a sweat. The kid read Shakespeare and actually got it. He did Western Civ. These are not subjects in public skool.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
However, when you make the schools worse, more students are pulled out of the system. This is a net gain. The number of homeschooled kids in AK is becoming staggering. The Anchorage School District is closing four schools this year, more next. The charter schools are doing well and expanding. The homeschool programs are bursting at the seams. I homeschooled the boy during Covid and didn't even break a sweat. The kid read Shakespeare and actually got it. He did Western Civ. These are not subjects in public skool.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (LweC0)
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The Department of Education started out as one of the three legs of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (HEW). I recall that Joseph Califano was its Secretary at one time under Lyndon "Bag Ears" Johnson.
Then Education was split off to become its own entity and the remainder became the Department of Health and Human Services.
The Department of Education started out as one of the three legs of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (HEW). I recall that Joseph Califano was its Secretary at one time under Lyndon "Bag Ears" Johnson.
Then Education was split off to become its own entity and the remainder became the Department of Health and Human Services.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (xG4kz)
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Department of Education Organization Act.
1979.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman
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And at the time the USA was number 1 in the developed world in education. Now after 46 years of the DoEd we are at number45 in the developed world. No DoEd would be infinitely better than any DoEd.
1979.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman
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And at the time the USA was number 1 in the developed world in education. Now after 46 years of the DoEd we are at number45 in the developed world. No DoEd would be infinitely better than any DoEd.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (17s+e)
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Speaking of which, one of my favorite quotes is from Lily Tomlin:
"Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs."
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Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
"Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs."
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Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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Speaking of eggs...
are the Cadbury Eggs on the shelves, yet?
Probably, right? For weeks, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (WMYRW)
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They've already got stuff out for Easter ... 2026
are the Cadbury Eggs on the shelves, yet?
Probably, right? For weeks, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (WMYRW)
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They've already got stuff out for Easter ... 2026
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (iFTx/)
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176 Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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167 As far as fed versus local control, I live in a Republican area and my kids education is totally woke.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)
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Again, this is why it is critically important to find and support conservative candidates at the most local level,
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)
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Again, this is why it is critically important to find and support conservative candidates at the most local level,
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (PMtkd)
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As good as "local control" sounds, be very aware of this:
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
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Further encouraging people to flee from insanity, communism, destruction, dystopia, and death for rationality, capitalism, hope, freedom, prosperity, and life.
Make Subsidiarity Great Again!
Conservative states and sane states will be freed up to improve their school with basic skills and nin-politicized curricula. But insane left-leanign states *cough*California*cough*will be freed up to make their education systems even MORE atrocious, "woke" indoctrination factories that pump out illiterate angry activists.
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
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Further encouraging people to flee from insanity, communism, destruction, dystopia, and death for rationality, capitalism, hope, freedom, prosperity, and life.
Make Subsidiarity Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (oIShL)
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When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
well, it is not like we can make it less local or more global to make it better unless we get it run from Brussels or from the UN.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
well, it is not like we can make it less local or more global to make it better unless we get it run from Brussels or from the UN.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (D7oie)
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Can Trump simply not spend the money Congress dictates goes to his own Department? Leave the money in limbo and defund on his own? I don't know why not. He is the Executive.
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Yeah, that's actually what the judges are saying when they are ordering Trump to restore these grants, etc.:
That--and there's some mumble, mumble in there--the various laws plus this Shiny New Super Clause of Take Care Clause require the Executive to spend every dime exactly as ordered by Congress no matter what, no questions, no discretion.
And if you're saying, "wait, if that's the case, then why is there an Executive Branch at all if it has to follow the laws of Congress?"
Congratulations! You're not Ivy League stupid.
PS: "must follow the laws of Congress not applicable to Democrat Presidents."
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Yeah, that's actually what the judges are saying when they are ordering Trump to restore these grants, etc.:
That--and there's some mumble, mumble in there--the various laws plus this Shiny New Super Clause of Take Care Clause require the Executive to spend every dime exactly as ordered by Congress no matter what, no questions, no discretion.
And if you're saying, "wait, if that's the case, then why is there an Executive Branch at all if it has to follow the laws of Congress?"
Congratulations! You're not Ivy League stupid.
PS: "must follow the laws of Congress not applicable to Democrat Presidents."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (MC8h6)
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There should be excellent incentives offered to home school. The public education system has always sucked.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (/U5Yz)
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It's interesting.
Doubt remains, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Erring on the side of doubt when it comes to government is usually the prudent, heck, always, the prudent course.
It's interesting.
Doubt remains, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Erring on the side of doubt when it comes to government is usually the prudent, heck, always, the prudent course.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (tT6L1)
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>>>White House says the order will "empower parents" and refocus education on student outcomes.
Fascists gonna fascist.
Fascists gonna fascist.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (i24o9)
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What this will ultimately lead to is a competition among the states, with parents fleeing crazy/woke states to states with better education systems -- so in the long run the sane stataes will have improved economies while the woke states will be bankrupt wastelands. But that will take a long time.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (pMi6S)
Newsome's first recall was driven not by anyone conservative, but by rich liberals who were aghast that the 50000+ dollar a year private schools their kids were going to got the same unamerican and anticapitalistic woke indoctrination the proles were getting.
That wasn't what they wanted at all.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 04:01 PM (pMi6S)
Newsome's first recall was driven not by anyone conservative, but by rich liberals who were aghast that the 50000+ dollar a year private schools their kids were going to got the same unamerican and anticapitalistic woke indoctrination the proles were getting.
That wasn't what they wanted at all.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (n7h9X)
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"Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer "
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Speaking of which, we've all heard that Harvard now has to offer Bonehead Algebra to its freshmen? One could say this is your curriculum on DEI, but I bet high-high schools that white kids attend are producing A students (yesterday's C students) who can't do math.
"Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer "
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Speaking of which, we've all heard that Harvard now has to offer Bonehead Algebra to its freshmen? One could say this is your curriculum on DEI, but I bet high-high schools that white kids attend are producing A students (yesterday's C students) who can't do math.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (lCaJd)
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>As good as "local control" sounds, be very aware of this:
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In Colorado, the new curriculum will include
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
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In Colorado, the new curriculum will include
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (AOsQT)
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Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Only 946
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Only 946
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)
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167 As far as fed versus local control, I live in a Republican area and my kids education is totally woke.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)
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I live in a similar scenario which was remedied back in November. The School Board is now a majority normies. I won't say Conservative, but more common sense. They tossed the Superintendent within weeks.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:02 PM (4pwAx)
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I live in a similar scenario which was remedied back in November. The School Board is now a majority normies. I won't say Conservative, but more common sense. They tossed the Superintendent within weeks.
Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (dIske)
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w35ftr3qwr34w
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:36 PM (lCaJd)
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This will be on the Sunday Morning Book Thread vocabulary quiz.
Better start studying!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 03:36 PM (lCaJd)
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This will be on the Sunday Morning Book Thread vocabulary quiz.
Better start studying!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (7fElN)
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184 Erring on the side of doubt when it comes to government is usually the prudent, heck, always, the prudent course.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (tT6L1)
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Getting appointees through does not create trust for me.
Cutting the size of government creates trust in me.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (tT6L1)
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Getting appointees through does not create trust for me.
Cutting the size of government creates trust in me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
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189 She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Only 946
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)
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I carried an extra 1...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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Only 946
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)
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I carried an extra 1...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Bust Education back to whatever were its minimum and statutorily created functions.
All else goes and the rule, "No more making up new and untested crap" gets implemented, hard and fast.
Bust Education back to whatever were its minimum and statutorily created functions.
All else goes and the rule, "No more making up new and untested crap" gets implemented, hard and fast.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (xG4kz)
195
There should be excellent incentives offered to home school. The public education system has always sucked.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (/U5Yz)
mine in Ohio was pretty good.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (/U5Yz)
mine in Ohio was pretty good.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (n7h9X)
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A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste.
*************
A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
**************
Beat me to it!
*************
A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
**************
Beat me to it!
Posted by: Calorically yours, Wide Latina, Tank Abrams, Brian Love Spud at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (NMT5x)
197
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
Fifty little laboratories of democracy. If California wants to self-immolate, why should I stop them? Let them ban ICE engines and see how that goes.
Better things will win out if there’s competition. Forcing a top-down, one-size-fits-all control scheme only insulates leftists from the consequences of their ideology, and forces trannies in girl’s locker rooms on red states.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
Fifty little laboratories of democracy. If California wants to self-immolate, why should I stop them? Let them ban ICE engines and see how that goes.
Better things will win out if there’s competition. Forcing a top-down, one-size-fits-all control scheme only insulates leftists from the consequences of their ideology, and forces trannies in girl’s locker rooms on red states.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (/q9k6)
198
How is it Trump got his wall defunded under Biden but Trump can't steer funds elsewhere when he's President?
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (4pwAx)
199
A heart is a terrible thing to taste
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israelnationalnews.com/news/405532
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (gKWVE)
200
California is already an economic wasteland with a budget deficit.
Posted by: Anna Puma
*shoulder shimmy*
*milking a cow hand motions*
Posted by: Anna Puma
*shoulder shimmy*
*milking a cow hand motions*
Posted by: Gavin Newsom at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (v0R5T)
201
There was a couple of us here in 2016 who said Trump could be like Reagan. Then again I took a lot of stick for just mentioning that he was like *Breitbart*.
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (T7bgo)
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Just took him a bit longer
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (T7bgo)
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Just took him a bit longer
Posted by: Black JEM at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (GZYu7)
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134 "Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
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Question 5. There are ten commies in a room. Two more commies enter the room, an argument ensues, and three commies are shot to death. One commie leaves the room. Two more commies enter the room, an argument ensues, and four more commies are shot to death. Two commies leave the room. How many commies remain to be killed?
Answer: 30 million.
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Question 5. There are ten commies in a room. Two more commies enter the room, an argument ensues, and three commies are shot to death. One commie leaves the room. Two more commies enter the room, an argument ensues, and four more commies are shot to death. Two commies leave the room. How many commies remain to be killed?
Answer: 30 million.
Posted by: No Joy in Beharville at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (qUkBO)
203
"Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
Posted by: Sponge
I probably have posted this before, but sometime after grad school, a newspaper, I think the WSJ, published a test and asked readers to complete it.
I did so, and it was not easy. I think I scored in the B+ range. After scoring, it was revealed to be a Chicago public high school entrance exam from 1900.
Posted by: Sponge
I probably have posted this before, but sometime after grad school, a newspaper, I think the WSJ, published a test and asked readers to complete it.
I did so, and it was not easy. I think I scored in the B+ range. After scoring, it was revealed to be a Chicago public high school entrance exam from 1900.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)
204
When you insist on local control, you get the good with the bad.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
You also get accountability - such as it can be - more localized, rather than in a far off land of central planners more beholden to institutional and private donors than to constituents.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 03:57 PM (pMi6S)
You also get accountability - such as it can be - more localized, rather than in a far off land of central planners more beholden to institutional and private donors than to constituents.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (Cki93)
206
Getting appointees through does not create trust for me.
Cutting the size of government creates trust in me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
One requires the other, you need the ranks below the General to do the ditch digging and fighting on the front.
Cutting the size of government creates trust in me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (GBKbO)
One requires the other, you need the ranks below the General to do the ditch digging and fighting on the front.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (KgD/S)
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178 176 Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
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She looks every bit of it, too.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
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She looks every bit of it, too.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (Hpgos)
209
Test scores and general academic success in the US have an almost exact inverse relationship with funding of the DoE.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (t0Rmr)
210
204 You also get accountability - such as it can be - more localized, rather than in a far off land of central planners more beholden to institutional and private donors than to constituents.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (i24o9)
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Local governments are generally hopelessly corrupt, but being able to point to DC and say, "It's their fault," has created a screen that helps them distract from their own corruption and failures all the more.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (i24o9)
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Local governments are generally hopelessly corrupt, but being able to point to DC and say, "It's their fault," has created a screen that helps them distract from their own corruption and failures all the more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)
211
The kid read Shakespeare and actually got it. He did Western Civ. These are not subjects in public skool.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (LweC0)
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Not anymore...
I had both of them in high school.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (LweC0)
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Not anymore...
I had both of them in high school.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (7fElN)
212
A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Waste.
*************
A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
**************
Beat me to it!
Posted by: Calorically yours, Wide Latina, Tank Abrams, Brian Love Spud at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (NMT5x)
A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste.
*************
A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
**************
Beat me to it!
Posted by: Calorically yours, Wide Latina, Tank Abrams, Brian Love Spud at March 20, 2025 04:05 PM (NMT5x)
A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste.
Posted by: Ministry at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (i24o9)
213
In Colorado, the new curriculum will include
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (AOsQT)
Don’t forget:
White Devils, the Source of All Evil
Oh well, good reason to get out of CO.
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (AOsQT)
Don’t forget:
White Devils, the Source of All Evil
Oh well, good reason to get out of CO.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (/q9k6)
214
@189 she's 947 in dog years
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (bVN1m)
215
Has Crenshaw made a statement on the WEF losing American funding?
Isn't he a WEF lap dog, douche?
Isn't he a WEF lap dog, douche?
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (v0R5T)
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Test scores and general academic success in the US have an almost exact inverse relationship with funding of the DoE.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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Hmm, I think that's a proposition which can be verified. Tell all DOE Employees they have to pay rent to stay in the building and said rent is three times their annual salary. Make mandatory and call it a "tax."
Posted by: 18-1 at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (t0Rmr)
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Hmm, I think that's a proposition which can be verified. Tell all DOE Employees they have to pay rent to stay in the building and said rent is three times their annual salary. Make mandatory and call it a "tax."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (/U5Yz)
219
I would remind folks here that my parents graduated HS at 16 and went on to college. This was before FDR decided to buy the Teachers Unions.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (Hpgos)
220
Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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She's actually older than the other Lilly, Lilly Munster.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
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She's actually older than the other Lilly, Lilly Munster.
Posted by: Calorically yours, Wide Latina, Tank Abrams, Brian Love Spud at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (NMT5x)
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Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
I think she topped out as Edith Ann.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
I think she topped out as Edith Ann.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (LweC0)
222
The band Ministry has an album "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (bVN1m)
223
I'm sure it was mentioned here, but there was a story recently about a high school graduate, with honors, who is suing the school district because she's functionally illiterate and innumerate.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (VNX3d)
224
You also get accountability - such as it can be - more localized, rather than in a far off land of central planners more beholden to institutional and private donors than to constituents.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (i24o9)
Yeah the peeps in Rhode Island are gonna get a better hearing in Providence than DC. Its the big states versus small state problem that the Senate was formed to solve.
I think all states need something like that to keep cities from dominating the state government and giving state senates something to stand for.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (i24o9)
Yeah the peeps in Rhode Island are gonna get a better hearing in Providence than DC. Its the big states versus small state problem that the Senate was formed to solve.
I think all states need something like that to keep cities from dominating the state government and giving state senates something to stand for.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (i24o9)
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"Just completed a very good telephone call with President Zelenskyy of Ukraine," he wrote, adding that the talks centered on ensuring both sides' concerns were addressed.
"Zelensky is now going to play the marimba with his dick. They say it's gonna be the best concert ever." - probably The Donald
"Zelensky is now going to play the marimba with his dick. They say it's gonna be the best concert ever." - probably The Donald
Posted by: Ian S. at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (2ocoG)
227
Lily is just another old, crazy, lesbian.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:09 PM (PMtkd)
228
>> "Compare a math text book from the 60's to one today.......
My sone loved math, numbers games, etc.. until 3rd grade. At Back to school night his teacher gushed about how she was just finishing up her Masters degree in math instruction and how it would benefit all our kids.
Yeah, you can guess what happened, she somehow got him to hate math -- and for us to transfer him to a private school because he hated all school when she was finished with him. Never recovered his love for math, despite our many attempts. . .
My sone loved math, numbers games, etc.. until 3rd grade. At Back to school night his teacher gushed about how she was just finishing up her Masters degree in math instruction and how it would benefit all our kids.
Yeah, you can guess what happened, she somehow got him to hate math -- and for us to transfer him to a private school because he hated all school when she was finished with him. Never recovered his love for math, despite our many attempts. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (Cki93)
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215 Has Crenshaw made a statement on the WEF losing American funding?
Isn't he a WEF lap dog, douche?
Posted by: Seems Legit [/i
Yes. Yes he is.
Isn't he a WEF lap dog, douche?
Posted by: Seems Legit [/i
Yes. Yes he is.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (/U5Yz)
230
Off, gelatinous socks.
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (NMT5x)
231
Hey, here is something I just learned.
The Dept. of Edumucation oversees $276 Billion dollar slush fund congress created to mitigate the impact of Covid on students.
What?
"The department also manages a $276 billion Education Stabilization Fund (ESF) that's supposed to help students catch up after the disastrous teachers' union-backed shutdown of schools during the pandemic"
I can only imagine all the graft and fraud in that pile of cash.
The Dept. of Edumucation oversees $276 Billion dollar slush fund congress created to mitigate the impact of Covid on students.
What?
"The department also manages a $276 billion Education Stabilization Fund (ESF) that's supposed to help students catch up after the disastrous teachers' union-backed shutdown of schools during the pandemic"
I can only imagine all the graft and fraud in that pile of cash.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (VBJJ3)
232
Robert Spencer's "Antisemitism: History and Myth" is out, March 18, 2025. Anyone read it yet? Is it as good as Chuck Schumer's book?
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (gKWVE)
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The funny part is that, at least here in my part of California, the fancier and more impressive-sounding a school's name is, the more horrible it is.
If a school is called "The Advanced Academy of Technology and Science Excellence"you can bet your bottom dollar it's a dumping ground for illiterate gang-members and violent bullies.
If a school is called "The Advanced Academy of Technology and Science Excellence"you can bet your bottom dollar it's a dumping ground for illiterate gang-members and violent bullies.
Posted by: zombie at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (pMi6S)
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2-minute video:
Congresswoman Harriet Hageman describes
$ laundering at at the Department of Education
https://tinyurl.com/2h9m7bbx
Congresswoman Harriet Hageman describes
$ laundering at at the Department of Education
https://tinyurl.com/2h9m7bbx
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (qpw89)
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (KgD/S)
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236 Just nuke the Wuhan Flu slush fund.
$276 billion saved.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (KgD/S)
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They could lose a few bills on my front lawn beforehand, though.
$276 billion saved.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (KgD/S)
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They could lose a few bills on my front lawn beforehand, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
238
I probably have posted this before, but sometime after grad school, a newspaper, I think the WSJ, published a test and asked readers to complete it.
I did so, and it was not easy. I think I scored in the B+ range. After scoring, it was revealed to be a Chicago public high school entrance exam from 1900.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)
Back in that era, your mandatory schooling was finished at the end of the sixth grade. High school was for those going into the professions and so forth,
I did so, and it was not easy. I think I scored in the B+ range. After scoring, it was revealed to be a Chicago public high school entrance exam from 1900.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)
Back in that era, your mandatory schooling was finished at the end of the sixth grade. High school was for those going into the professions and so forth,
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (MqtqS)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (Cus5s)
240
No fake doctors in white coats, can't trust it
Posted by: ... at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (T7bgo)
241
Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)
242
The kid read Shakespeare and actually got it. He did Western Civ. These are not subjects in public skool.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (LweC0)
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Not anymore...
I had both of them in high school.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (7fElN)
Me too. 5 years of Latin in Jr High and High school (Jr high split 1 year of the subject since the class was short)
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (LweC0)
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Not anymore...
I had both of them in high school.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:07 PM (7fElN)
Me too. 5 years of Latin in Jr High and High school (Jr high split 1 year of the subject since the class was short)
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (n7h9X)
243
Public school died when they replaced History with Social Studies. Don't get me started on the idiot way they teach math. I had to deprogram my son every damned day when he got home.
I really loved it when the "teacher" taught him that the reason for Prohibition was that the "Irish" (Catholics) were all drunk and abusing their dozens of kids. Nothing like religious libel to stick with young impressionable minds.
I really loved it when the "teacher" taught him that the reason for Prohibition was that the "Irish" (Catholics) were all drunk and abusing their dozens of kids. Nothing like religious libel to stick with young impressionable minds.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (LweC0)
244
>>n Colorado, the new curriculum will include
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
You forgot: how best to sexually pleasure your School Board member (see: Tay Anderson).
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
You forgot: how best to sexually pleasure your School Board member (see: Tay Anderson).
Posted by: Lizzy at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (Cki93)
245
They could lose a few bills on my front lawn beforehand, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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If I did the math right, it adds up to ~$3K per household.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)
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If I did the math right, it adds up to ~$3K per household.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (tT6L1)
246
The Department of Education should be there to set some sort of national standard of what gets taught in each grade level, so that if a kid has to move to another state, there is no big shock like finding out in this new state, he should have already learned how to multiply fractions, or whatever.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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Even that level of authority/organization can be accomplished by a non-government accreditation-type agency that all the states join. That agency can do all the work, submit their standards to the DoE for approval, and that's it.
The Department of Education should be there to set some sort of national standard of what gets taught in each grade level, so that if a kid has to move to another state, there is no big shock like finding out in this new state, he should have already learned how to multiply fractions, or whatever.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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Even that level of authority/organization can be accomplished by a non-government accreditation-type agency that all the states join. That agency can do all the work, submit their standards to the DoE for approval, and that's it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (lCaJd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (KgD/S)
248
Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
249
Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
So kids can help with the harvest. Of course, now the harvest is marijuana.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
So kids can help with the harvest. Of course, now the harvest is marijuana.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (lTGtQ)
250
Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Summer vacay is a throwback to the days when everyone farmed and the kids had to help with the harvest, or so I've heard.
Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Summer vacay is a throwback to the days when everyone farmed and the kids had to help with the harvest, or so I've heard.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (lCaJd)
251
In Colorado, the new curriculum will include
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (AOsQT)
Don’t forget:
White Devils, the Source of All Evil
Oh well, good reason to get out of CO.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (/q9k6)
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Rental Economics
-curriculum developed by TdA
Introduction To Communism
Abortion For Fun And Profit
Sodomy 101
Transgender Studies
Heroes Of The WEF
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 04:04 PM (AOsQT)
Don’t forget:
White Devils, the Source of All Evil
Oh well, good reason to get out of CO.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:08 PM (/q9k6)
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Rental Economics
-curriculum developed by TdA
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (NMT5x)
252
OT: Just got off the phone with the retirement counselor guy. Two new things I didn't know: I can start taking my annuity payout even before I actually leave my job -- I wish they'd told me that before! And I can leave part of the account in place, take payments from the main part as I planned, and later have them start up a second annuity to draw from all or part of the left-behind portion.
It means I'd see less each month to start with, though not a lot less, and if I needed the extra I could call for it. Is this a good idea? Or should I grab all I can to maximize my monthly income? SS is my only other income, at least right now. Anybody ever done this?
It means I'd see less each month to start with, though not a lot less, and if I needed the extra I could call for it. Is this a good idea? Or should I grab all I can to maximize my monthly income? SS is my only other income, at least right now. Anybody ever done this?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (J2vNu)
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248 Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
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248 Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
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I found the square dancing section enjoyable. I also remember dodgeball. I enjoyed it even though I was not very good at it.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
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I found the square dancing section enjoyable. I also remember dodgeball. I enjoyed it even though I was not very good at it.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (G0vdT)
255
the reason for Prohibition was that the "Irish" (Catholics) were all drunk and abusing their dozens of kids.
This was part of the propaganda the Klan and Progressives (which had a good deal of overlap) were using to get Prohibition passed. But who believes this claptrap now?
This was part of the propaganda the Klan and Progressives (which had a good deal of overlap) were using to get Prohibition passed. But who believes this claptrap now?
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (gKWVE)
256
8 Wasn’t it established by EO? Carter?
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
Yes...but then it was confirmed by a passed and signed Congressional law. That's what Trump will be dropping its functions to - the contents of that law, and any follow ons...
Posted by: Piper at March 20, 2025 03:37 PM (pZEOD)
Yes...but then it was confirmed by a passed and signed Congressional law. That's what Trump will be dropping its functions to - the contents of that law, and any follow ons...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (tOcjL)
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Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
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I disagree. MAHA. There was a time when Harvard entry requirements included being able to swim a couple of lengths.
Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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I disagree. MAHA. There was a time when Harvard entry requirements included being able to swim a couple of lengths.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (lCaJd)
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5 years of Latin in Jr High and High school (Jr high split 1 year of the subject since the class was short)
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (n7h9X)
Latin? Did you go to school in Edwardian England?
Just kidding, taking Latin is actually based.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (n7h9X)
Latin? Did you go to school in Edwardian England?
Just kidding, taking Latin is actually based.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:16 PM (/q9k6)
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Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 04:16 PM (VNX3d)
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Posted by: Ciampino - claymores everywhere at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (KjLnc)
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Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
good idea, we can replace it with adderall
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
good idea, we can replace it with adderall
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (D7oie)
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1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 04:16 PM (VNX3d)
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We had to do that in junior high. Good experience.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 04:16 PM (VNX3d)
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We had to do that in junior high. Good experience.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (7fElN)
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The Department of Education should be there to set some sort of national standard of what gets taught in each grade level, so that if a kid has to move to another state, there is no big shock like finding out in this new state, he should have already learned how to multiply fractions, or whatever.
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No. That's exactly how we got the monstrosity we have now. States can decide. If they eff it up, so be it. Check your local curriculums and if they are shit, move.
The Department of Education should be there to set some sort of national standard of what gets taught in each grade level, so that if a kid has to move to another state, there is no big shock like finding out in this new state, he should have already learned how to multiply fractions, or whatever.
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No. That's exactly how we got the monstrosity we have now. States can decide. If they eff it up, so be it. Check your local curriculums and if they are shit, move.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (PMtkd)
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This was part of the propaganda the Klan and Progressives (which had a good deal of overlap) were using to get Prohibition passed. But who believes this claptrap now?
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (gKWVE)
My great grandparents were all in on Prohibition. My grandpa, OTOH, was in the 5th Marines and his muster cards have numerous entries busting him for drinking on guard duty. None of them were Irish, however, but I find it ironic that the one serving his country got bored and drunk. He was also at Belleau Wood and was highly decorated, so apparently the drinking only occurred when he was bored...
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (gKWVE)
My great grandparents were all in on Prohibition. My grandpa, OTOH, was in the 5th Marines and his muster cards have numerous entries busting him for drinking on guard duty. None of them were Irish, however, but I find it ironic that the one serving his country got bored and drunk. He was also at Belleau Wood and was highly decorated, so apparently the drinking only occurred when he was bored...
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:18 PM (LweC0)
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Add a class in Personal Finance. Use government spending habits as an example of how not to do it. Use actual paychecks showing the massive tax deductions. Watch 18-year-olds vote R in droves.
Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Add a class in Personal Finance. Use government spending habits as an example of how not to do it. Use actual paychecks showing the massive tax deductions. Watch 18-year-olds vote R in droves.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:18 PM (lCaJd)
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 04:16 PM (VNX3d)
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Our rural HS even had a drafting class along with shop which included welding.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 20, 2025 04:16 PM (VNX3d)
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Our rural HS even had a drafting class along with shop which included welding.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:18 PM (G0vdT)
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With scotch on the rocks at my side, I wish you all a good night from up here in quiet northern Israel.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 20, 2025 04:18 PM (3GdZZ)
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Summer vacay is a throwback to the days when everyone farmed and the kids had to help with the harvest, or so I've heard.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (lCaJd)
You don’t harvest much in the summer. We had summer break largely because those big buildings were dangerously hot without air conditioning.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (lCaJd)
You don’t harvest much in the summer. We had summer break largely because those big buildings were dangerously hot without air conditioning.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (/q9k6)
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In Home Economics the girls will learn to make sammiches.
Posted by: wth at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (v0R5T)
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
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I would also mandate Financial Accounting starting at 7th grade for all of them. Add Cost Accounting for the cherry on top.
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
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I would also mandate Financial Accounting starting at 7th grade for all of them. Add Cost Accounting for the cherry on top.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (Hpgos)
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Recess is important (certainly in grade school) if kids must sit in classes for 40 minutes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (PMtkd)
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I found the square dancing section enjoyable. I also remember dodgeball. I enjoyed it even though I was not very good at it.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (G0vdT)
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We had square dancing, too. We also learned the Hustle.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:15 PM (G0vdT)
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We had square dancing, too. We also learned the Hustle.
Posted by: ScaryMary at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (wX56x)
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>>>Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
Public school is babysitting half the day or more, depending on the grade.
The teachers don't give homework, because the kids won't do it. And you have to mind-trick them into reading a book, from my local experience.
What a nightmare.
Public school is babysitting half the day or more, depending on the grade.
The teachers don't give homework, because the kids won't do it. And you have to mind-trick them into reading a book, from my local experience.
What a nightmare.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (i24o9)
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Wouldn't mind some instruction in cursive.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (cBhy9)
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Guy commuted by poopypants on drug charges, arrested on drug charges.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (MGB5H)
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Get rid of mandatory school. It should all be optional. The only thing that shouldn't be an option is a government school..
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (BI5O2)
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I would also mandate Financial Accounting starting at 7th grade for all of them. Add Cost Accounting for the cherry on top.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (Hpgos)
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YES!
Everyone needs to learn about taxation too. How it's everywhere and it's to keep you poor, not to pay for government spending.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (Hpgos)
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YES!
Everyone needs to learn about taxation too. How it's everywhere and it's to keep you poor, not to pay for government spending.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (PMtkd)
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261 Get rid of mandatory PE. Waste of time.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
good idea, we can replace it with adderall
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (D7oie)
RFK will never sign off on getting rid of mandatory PE. If you're gonna keep kids in a building in a seat for 8-10 hours/day (with before and after care), you need them to get some exercise every day. It's unhealthy otherwise.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:13 PM (/U5Yz)
good idea, we can replace it with adderall
Posted by: Kindltot at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (D7oie)
RFK will never sign off on getting rid of mandatory PE. If you're gonna keep kids in a building in a seat for 8-10 hours/day (with before and after care), you need them to get some exercise every day. It's unhealthy otherwise.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (tOcjL)
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Speaking of money, when are we supposed to receive that check from DOGE?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (KgD/S)
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249 Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Personal story about how conservative are created.
When I was in 3rd grade (or so. maybe 2nd or 4th) we had 4 days off of school in the middle of the year. "Teachers Union meeting."
I was shocked. For snow days they would add a day at end of year and here they are giving teachers 4 days to go to a convention. I also noticed that they all had an NJEA calendar on their desks.
Now I was a little kid, but I asked why they didn't do it in the summer and I was told that many teachers have plans during the summer. I later learned that this was all negotiated by the union that their convention time did not count as missed school days.
But even as a little kid I understood the grift. It was all about the teachers. Fuck the kids. It made an impression that I still remember. I remember from then on seeing those stupid triangular calendars and knowing that the teachers were not my friend.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Personal story about how conservative are created.
When I was in 3rd grade (or so. maybe 2nd or 4th) we had 4 days off of school in the middle of the year. "Teachers Union meeting."
I was shocked. For snow days they would add a day at end of year and here they are giving teachers 4 days to go to a convention. I also noticed that they all had an NJEA calendar on their desks.
Now I was a little kid, but I asked why they didn't do it in the summer and I was told that many teachers have plans during the summer. I later learned that this was all negotiated by the union that their convention time did not count as missed school days.
But even as a little kid I understood the grift. It was all about the teachers. Fuck the kids. It made an impression that I still remember. I remember from then on seeing those stupid triangular calendars and knowing that the teachers were not my friend.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (VBJJ3)
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We had to do that in junior high. Good experience.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (7fElN)
Jr High was shop, home ec, PE, typing and shorthand, real history (not social studies), civics, all the basics for a good and responsible life. High School was a bit more about things like Chemistry, Physics, Literature, Grammar, more History, and, oddly, Personal Finance.
I had been working since I was 14 and already handling my own checking account and taxes, so that last one was silly.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 20, 2025 04:17 PM (7fElN)
Jr High was shop, home ec, PE, typing and shorthand, real history (not social studies), civics, all the basics for a good and responsible life. High School was a bit more about things like Chemistry, Physics, Literature, Grammar, more History, and, oddly, Personal Finance.
I had been working since I was 14 and already handling my own checking account and taxes, so that last one was silly.
Posted by: tcn in AK at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (LweC0)
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I really would like to see vouchers make a political comeback. Just put something in the tax code where you get a federal tax credit for attending a private school. Something.
Liberals get a tax rebate for donating to NPR but Republicans can't get a tax break for private education?
Liberals get a tax rebate for donating to NPR but Republicans can't get a tax break for private education?
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (4pwAx)
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I probably have posted this before, but sometime after grad school, a newspaper, I think the WSJ, published a test and asked readers to complete it.
I did so, and it was not easy. I think I scored in the B+ range. After scoring, it was revealed to be a Chicago public high school entrance exam from 1900.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)
Back in that era, your mandatory schooling was finished at the end of the sixth grade. High school was for those going into the professions and so forth,
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (MqtqS)
I've seen even the 6th grade exams and they are not simple. Lots of allusions to classics if not reading them cover to cover. Nothing about being 'relevant' to kids who don't have any learning yet to be relevant to. Makes it easier for the teacher tho.
Our Latin class had a little program of teaching a bit of language to the elementary kids at the area schools. Kids liked it and ate it up. One year we did it to the toughs in the "falling behind" disciplinary class and we had to shift the program some but they learned some too.
I did so, and it was not easy. I think I scored in the B+ range. After scoring, it was revealed to be a Chicago public high school entrance exam from 1900.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:06 PM (lTGtQ)
Back in that era, your mandatory schooling was finished at the end of the sixth grade. High school was for those going into the professions and so forth,
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 20, 2025 04:11 PM (MqtqS)
I've seen even the 6th grade exams and they are not simple. Lots of allusions to classics if not reading them cover to cover. Nothing about being 'relevant' to kids who don't have any learning yet to be relevant to. Makes it easier for the teacher tho.
Our Latin class had a little program of teaching a bit of language to the elementary kids at the area schools. Kids liked it and ate it up. One year we did it to the toughs in the "falling behind" disciplinary class and we had to shift the program some but they learned some too.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (n7h9X)
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189 Lily is in a advertisement running on TeeVee. She's Hideous.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
See I am not that old !!!! I will be running for POTUS in 2028 again....
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (Hpgos)
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She's like 947 years old.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:03 PM (GBKbO)
See I am not that old !!!! I will be running for POTUS in 2028 again....
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (FDlb9)
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279 Speaking of money, when are we supposed to receive that check from DOGE?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (KgD/S)
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Right after Epstein client list is released.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (KgD/S)
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Right after Epstein client list is released.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (yHAEf)
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223 I'm sure it was mentioned here, but there was a story recently about a high school graduate, with honors, who is suing the school district because she's functionally illiterate and innumerate.
Educationally restarted but quick with a lawyer, in other words a typical gimme gimme class American then.
Educationally restarted but quick with a lawyer, in other words a typical gimme gimme class American then.
Posted by: Bensdad00 at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (HbqWh)
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Recess is important (certainly in grade school) if kids must sit in classes for 40 minutes.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (PMtkd)
Recess is important, because you have them the whole damned day.
We don't have PE, homeschooling.
When they get their work done, they are free to do whatever, including outside play, sports, music, etc.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:19 PM (PMtkd)
Recess is important, because you have them the whole damned day.
We don't have PE, homeschooling.
When they get their work done, they are free to do whatever, including outside play, sports, music, etc.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (i24o9)
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>>>Speaking of which, we've all heard that Harvard now has to offer Bonehead Algebra to its freshmen?
>Bonehead Algebra? I was doing Bonehead Algebra in 8th grade. The Ivys have lost their way.
>Bonehead Algebra? I was doing Bonehead Algebra in 8th grade. The Ivys have lost their way.
Posted by: Rev Wishbone at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (fY84s)
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Speaking of money, when are we supposed to receive that check from DOGE?
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:20
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Talk to the judge.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 20, 2025 04:20
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Talk to the judge.
Posted by: olddog in mo at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (hoCmQ)
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Showtime. Trump up.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:23 PM (G0vdT)
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Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Add a class in Personal Finance. Use government spending habits as an example of how not to do it. Use actual paychecks showing the massive tax deductions. Watch 18-year-olds vote R in droves.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:18 PM (lCaJd)
All these things. Kids grew up learning to do useful things - household handy man stuff, making a meal plan, putting together a grocery list and then making the food. Heck, throw in a basic ag class so they can learn how to grow basic foodstuffs to have fresh stuff.
Replace it with mandatory shop class. Kids today are morons with tools.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 20, 2025 04:14 PM (Hpgos)
1 semester with shop, and one with home ec. Make sure they can take care of themselves when they graduate, without living in a biological disaster area, whether male or female.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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Add a class in Personal Finance. Use government spending habits as an example of how not to do it. Use actual paychecks showing the massive tax deductions. Watch 18-year-olds vote R in droves.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:18 PM (lCaJd)
All these things. Kids grew up learning to do useful things - household handy man stuff, making a meal plan, putting together a grocery list and then making the food. Heck, throw in a basic ag class so they can learn how to grow basic foodstuffs to have fresh stuff.
Posted by: moki at March 20, 2025 04:23 PM (wLjpr)
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Every kid that leaves high school should understand something like a 401k.
Personal finance is sorely lacking in this country.
They want everyone poor and dependent on the government.
Personal finance is sorely lacking in this country.
They want everyone poor and dependent on the government.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:23 PM (4pwAx)
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If they can't close it. Keep two people to answer phones transfer calls to the states.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at March 20, 2025 04:23 PM (aICjD)
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292 Showtime. Trump up.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:23 PM (G0vdT)
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Confirmed:
WisRich is Melania.
Posted by: WisRich at March 20, 2025 04:23 PM (G0vdT)
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Confirmed:
WisRich is Melania.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Kammal Harris at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (l8kJx)
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1950's owner's manual for a new car taught you how to set points.
New car manual today instructs you to not drink the battery acid.
New car manual today instructs you to not drink the battery acid.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (LVaER)
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267 With scotch on the rocks at my side, I wish you all a good night from up here in quiet northern Israel.
Which is going to become central Israel when they annex the Druze inshallah.
Which is going to become central Israel when they annex the Druze inshallah.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (gKWVE)
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what you're not hearing is that (as many of us suspected) advanced weapons systems are quickly moving to Ukraine
the pressure on Putin to sign a ceasefire deal will grow every week
the pressure on Putin to sign a ceasefire deal will grow every week
Posted by: TallDave at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (98TtQ)
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Recess is important, because you have them the whole damned day.
We don't have PE, homeschooling.
When they get their work done, they are free to do whatever, including outside play, sports, music, etc.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (i24o9)
Even homeschooling, though, I set a rule that my kids had to walk every day if they couldn't come up with any other exercise outside. Even had a route planned to Target (2 miles) once they were teens - it was down to the 1st light (1.1 miles) when they were 10+ (under 10 and they had to walk with a sib on the light path b/c I didn't want the "well-meaning nanny staters" butting in)...if you don't, kids can get lazy.
We don't have PE, homeschooling.
When they get their work done, they are free to do whatever, including outside play, sports, music, etc.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (i24o9)
Even homeschooling, though, I set a rule that my kids had to walk every day if they couldn't come up with any other exercise outside. Even had a route planned to Target (2 miles) once they were teens - it was down to the 1st light (1.1 miles) when they were 10+ (under 10 and they had to walk with a sib on the light path b/c I didn't want the "well-meaning nanny staters" butting in)...if you don't, kids can get lazy.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (tOcjL)
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Ah, PE class! I was not a good overall athlete, but I wasn't bad at wrestling and certain running events. I was never on the track team, but one of my proudest moments was when, one evening, our champion hundred-yard-dash guy and I were running together, and I blew past him like he was standing still. We were being chased by older kids with crowbars and baseball bats- the backstory of which is a minor detail which need not detain us here - which, I'm pretty sure, had a lot to do with my superior speed, because I never was able to beat him again.
Posted by: Paco at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (mADJX)
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We don't have PE, homeschooling.
When they get their work done, they are free to do whatever, including outside play, sports, music, etc.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (i24o9)
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My grandkids are going to be homeschooled and sitting in classrooms all day is part of the reason.
Also, curriculum control, family time, time outdoors, hobbies, etc.
When they get their work done, they are free to do whatever, including outside play, sports, music, etc.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:22 PM (i24o9)
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My grandkids are going to be homeschooled and sitting in classrooms all day is part of the reason.
Also, curriculum control, family time, time outdoors, hobbies, etc.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (PMtkd)
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I really would like to see vouchers make a political comeback. Just put something in the tax code where you get a federal tax credit for attending a private school. Something.
Liberals get a tax rebate for donating to NPR but Republicans can't get a tax break for private education?
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (4pwAx)
School vouchers never went anywhere. They’re at a high-water point. They’re just done at the state and local level, as they ought to be.
Liberals get a tax rebate for donating to NPR but Republicans can't get a tax break for private education?
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:21 PM (4pwAx)
School vouchers never went anywhere. They’re at a high-water point. They’re just done at the state and local level, as they ought to be.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (/q9k6)
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Every kid that leaves high school should understand something like a 401k.
Personal finance is sorely lacking in this country.
They want everyone poor and dependent on the government.
Posted by: Leupold
If they want to do that, then they can't exclude people.
Personal finance is sorely lacking in this country.
They want everyone poor and dependent on the government.
Posted by: Leupold
If they want to do that, then they can't exclude people.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (LVaER)
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Speaking of money, when are we supposed to receive that check from DOGE?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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That was a dumb idea imo.
You send everyone a $1000 check and we'll spike up inflation again.
That kind of stuff during Covid really got people screwed up.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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That was a dumb idea imo.
You send everyone a $1000 check and we'll spike up inflation again.
That kind of stuff during Covid really got people screwed up.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (4pwAx)
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>>> Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)
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The last time I was full time teacher was in 2005. I coached three sports, including summer HS baseball. My salary was $30K. Students require 181 days of school. Teacher required 10 professional/inservice days during school year. Plus 2 at the end of the school year, and a minimum of three at the beginning. Also, we have to take five credits of re-endorsement/post grad every five years, at our own express. Throw in on top Mandatory Reporter certification annually. One for Child, one for adult, and one for senior. I won't even go into annual courses needed for coaching.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)
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The last time I was full time teacher was in 2005. I coached three sports, including summer HS baseball. My salary was $30K. Students require 181 days of school. Teacher required 10 professional/inservice days during school year. Plus 2 at the end of the school year, and a minimum of three at the beginning. Also, we have to take five credits of re-endorsement/post grad every five years, at our own express. Throw in on top Mandatory Reporter certification annually. One for Child, one for adult, and one for senior. I won't even go into annual courses needed for coaching.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (6TlG5)
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RFK will never sign off on getting rid of mandatory PE. If you're gonna keep kids in a building in a seat for 8-10 hours/day (with before and after care), you need them to get some exercise every day. It's unhealthy otherwise.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (tOcjL)
Its especially true for the boys, another thing holding them back.
I didn't appreciate having swimming in the morning when the ice storms had Carter turning the heat way down in the classes. Still have sensitivities to AC from that 50 years on.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:20 PM (tOcjL)
Its especially true for the boys, another thing holding them back.
I didn't appreciate having swimming in the morning when the ice storms had Carter turning the heat way down in the classes. Still have sensitivities to AC from that 50 years on.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:26 PM (n7h9X)
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2-minute video:
Congresswoman Harriet Hageman describes
$ laundering at at the Department of Education
https://tinyurl.com/2h9m7bbx
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (qpw89)
I remember when I thought only the mafia did money laundering, which I learned from movies like Goodfellas.
Sigh...
Congresswoman Harriet Hageman describes
$ laundering at at the Department of Education
https://tinyurl.com/2h9m7bbx
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (qpw89)
I remember when I thought only the mafia did money laundering, which I learned from movies like Goodfellas.
Sigh...
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 20, 2025 04:26 PM (NMT5x)
Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at March 20, 2025 04:26 PM (WMYRW)
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Re phys ed in high-school--today's lardass kids could use PE more than ever.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at March 20, 2025 04:26 PM (XMwZJ)
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Somewhere Randy Weingarten is downing her 3rd bottle of wine.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2025 04:27 PM (LkLld)
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You send everyone a $1000 check and we'll spike up inflation again.
That kind of stuff during Covid really got people screwed up.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (4pwAx)
its not inflationary if its your money returned.
That kind of stuff during Covid really got people screwed up.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (4pwAx)
its not inflationary if its your money returned.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:27 PM (n7h9X)
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link to livestream
https://is.gd/E68XUs
Posted by: Soothsayer
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HA, and the Secretary of Education in the front row. Gold.
link to livestream
https://is.gd/E68XUs
Posted by: Soothsayer
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HA, and the Secretary of Education in the front row. Gold.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:27 PM (lCaJd)
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No public schools have not always sucked. Back in the 1950-60s, young women regarded teaching as a vocation up to and through early marriage.
Later it became a career for the insufferables, who cared more about money, hours and power than practice for raising your own family.
Later it became a career for the insufferables, who cared more about money, hours and power than practice for raising your own family.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 20, 2025 04:27 PM (wBaIH)
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My grandkids are going to be homeschooled and sitting in classrooms all day is part of the reason.
Also, curriculum control, family time, time outdoors, hobbies, etc.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (PMtkd)
We both work from home and can swing it. I encourage anyone who can swing it to try. Reward is worth the trouble. Plus freedom to do things like spend the afternoon practicing baseball is the tits.
Also, curriculum control, family time, time outdoors, hobbies, etc.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (PMtkd)
We both work from home and can swing it. I encourage anyone who can swing it to try. Reward is worth the trouble. Plus freedom to do things like spend the afternoon practicing baseball is the tits.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:27 PM (i24o9)
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>>Why do teachers get 4 months off a year?
So 15 year olds can get their first Summer Job.
Watching the same kids that the Teachers do. For the same period of the day.
For min Wage.
So 15 year olds can get their first Summer Job.
Watching the same kids that the Teachers do. For the same period of the day.
For min Wage.
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (yHAEf)
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>>> >>> Why do teachers get 4 months off a year? This has always been total BS.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)
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Oh, and it's closer to two and a half months. I'm not defending, as I got out of education. Just stating the facts, at least in my state.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 20, 2025 04:12 PM (/U5Yz)
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Oh, and it's closer to two and a half months. I'm not defending, as I got out of education. Just stating the facts, at least in my state.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (6TlG5)
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That was a dumb idea imo.
You send everyone a $1000 check and we'll spike up inflation again.
That kind of stuff during Covid really got people screwed up.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (4pwAx)
How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation? I agree it shouldn’t be given to everyone; it should be a non-refundable tax credit paid up-front.
You send everyone a $1000 check and we'll spike up inflation again.
That kind of stuff during Covid really got people screwed up.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:25 PM (4pwAx)
How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation? I agree it shouldn’t be given to everyone; it should be a non-refundable tax credit paid up-front.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (/q9k6)
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School vouchers never went anywhere. They’re at a high-water point. They’re just done at the state and local level, as they ought to be.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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That's fine if you live in a super red state, but at least half the country will never see it.
And the handful of state that have something close to a voucher, it's pretty mild at best. You defiintely don't get the full cost of a public education for that student.
Again, if I can give to NPR and get a rebate, why not let a parent get some sort of rebate for sending their kid to say a Christian school.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
==
That's fine if you live in a super red state, but at least half the country will never see it.
And the handful of state that have something close to a voucher, it's pretty mild at best. You defiintely don't get the full cost of a public education for that student.
Again, if I can give to NPR and get a rebate, why not let a parent get some sort of rebate for sending their kid to say a Christian school.
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (i24o9)
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A mime is an adorable thing to tase...
Posted by: muldoon at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (/iMjX)
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Oh, and it's closer to two and a half months. I'm not defending, as I got out of education. Just stating the facts, at least in my state.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (6TlG5)
Paid 2.5 months off.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (6TlG5)
Paid 2.5 months off.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:29 PM (i24o9)
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Here we go.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:29 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 20, 2025 04:30 PM (VBJJ3)
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If you've ever watched a teacher's union strike on TV you'd be compelled to pull your kids out of school that day.
Seriously, it looks like the bar scene from Star Wars.
They are disgusting.
Not like my sweet kindergarten teacher Mrs. Sinkovich. Whom I loved.
Seriously, it looks like the bar scene from Star Wars.
They are disgusting.
Not like my sweet kindergarten teacher Mrs. Sinkovich. Whom I loved.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:30 PM (PMtkd)
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How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation?
Because printing money increases the money supply. Taxes are how money gets un-printed.
Because printing money increases the money supply. Taxes are how money gets un-printed.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:30 PM (gKWVE)
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How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation? I agree it shouldn’t be given to everyone; it should be a non-refundable tax credit paid up-front.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
==
People on Obamacare, unemployment, or disability will tell you they are just getting the money they paid into the system.
We've seen that when you give people short term stimulus like this, they spend it on stupid things.
I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
==
People on Obamacare, unemployment, or disability will tell you they are just getting the money they paid into the system.
We've seen that when you give people short term stimulus like this, they spend it on stupid things.
I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
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Taxes are how money gets un-printed.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:30 PM (gKWVE)
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OR
Cutting the graft out of the government.
Saving trillions one department at a time.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 20, 2025 04:30 PM (gKWVE)
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OR
Cutting the graft out of the government.
Saving trillions one department at a time.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (PMtkd)
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All those programs should be ended. Pell at the top of the list.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (VBJJ3)
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Lower the budget of the DOE to $1.25, and-
Move its offices to the back stall in the men's room at the nearest McDonald's.
Lower the budget of the DOE to $1.25, and-
Move its offices to the back stall in the men's room at the nearest McDonald's.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2025 04:32 PM (iJfKG)
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I feel a disturbance in the force, as if millions of groomer teachers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Posted by: Judge Kamehameha at March 20, 2025 04:32 PM (i24o9)
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sound system is clipping.
Why can't they get the sound right?
Why can't they get the sound right?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (VBJJ3)
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Teach kids how to function in society
how to
bank
buy insurance
buy or rent housing
run a household
choose a doctor
buy a car
file a tax return
etc
how to
bank
buy insurance
buy or rent housing
run a household
choose a doctor
buy a car
file a tax return
etc
Posted by: Don Black at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (AOsQT)
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what you're not hearing is that (as many of us suspected) advanced weapons systems are quickly moving to Ukraine
==
what advanced systems ? the ones that they have already? like patriots ?
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what advanced systems ? the ones that they have already? like patriots ?
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (g47mK)
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I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
So I tend to agree, but I think the dividend checks add a bit of showmanship. It helps get people onboard with what DOGE is doing. Elon and Trump are both good at theatrics and branding, so I’d tend to defer to their experience here.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
So I tend to agree, but I think the dividend checks add a bit of showmanship. It helps get people onboard with what DOGE is doing. Elon and Trump are both good at theatrics and branding, so I’d tend to defer to their experience here.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (/q9k6)
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what you're not hearing is that (as many of us suspected) advanced weapons systems are quickly moving to Ukraine
the pressure on Putin to sign a ceasefire deal will grow every week
Posted by: TallDave at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (98TtQ)
Russia destroyed all of those 2 years ago, all they could spare and more. There's nothing new they haven't seen, and equipment isn't going to take trenches. Ukraine just tried another feckless offensive toward Belgorod, and a lot of the Ukrainians just surrendered. Morale is well below the basement for those fellows.
Its mud season coming up now so the drive to follow the retreating Ukrainians will wane and securing a new stop line will make a pause useful for them too. Neglecting to dig in in the first year caused the Russians some embarrassment.
the pressure on Putin to sign a ceasefire deal will grow every week
Posted by: TallDave at March 20, 2025 04:24 PM (98TtQ)
Russia destroyed all of those 2 years ago, all they could spare and more. There's nothing new they haven't seen, and equipment isn't going to take trenches. Ukraine just tried another feckless offensive toward Belgorod, and a lot of the Ukrainians just surrendered. Morale is well below the basement for those fellows.
Its mud season coming up now so the drive to follow the retreating Ukrainians will wane and securing a new stop line will make a pause useful for them too. Neglecting to dig in in the first year caused the Russians some embarrassment.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (n7h9X)
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A fair amount of my closest friends are elementary school teachers in various SoCal school districts, and I can tell you that even if we could wave a magic wand and get school curriculums back to normal, there are still going to be huge issues.
There is no way for teachers to have any actual discipline in the classroom. Most parents refuse to believe their child could possibly do anything wrong. The teachers can't do much of anything, even when a kid gets violent.
Anyone who actually wants a good education for their child, and can afford to do it is putting their kids in private school, and the magnet schools in the public school system take all the smart kids whose parents can't afford private school, so the classes are mostly composed of the mediocre at best kids, the kids whose parents can't or won't discipline them, and the kids whose parents who use school as a baby sitting service ( can't or won't follow up on homework assignments, poor attendance, etc)
Add in all the issues that come with the kids who are bussed in from the bad parts of town, and you have an awful situation.
I know we like to bag on teachers here, but it's not the job it once was.
There is no way for teachers to have any actual discipline in the classroom. Most parents refuse to believe their child could possibly do anything wrong. The teachers can't do much of anything, even when a kid gets violent.
Anyone who actually wants a good education for their child, and can afford to do it is putting their kids in private school, and the magnet schools in the public school system take all the smart kids whose parents can't afford private school, so the classes are mostly composed of the mediocre at best kids, the kids whose parents can't or won't discipline them, and the kids whose parents who use school as a baby sitting service ( can't or won't follow up on homework assignments, poor attendance, etc)
Add in all the issues that come with the kids who are bussed in from the bad parts of town, and you have an awful situation.
I know we like to bag on teachers here, but it's not the job it once was.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
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How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation?
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Simple: We have x "supply" of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods.
Now: Put an extra $1,000 into everyone's pockets = We now have x+$1000 of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods = Prices will rise.
Its supply & demand.
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Simple: We have x "supply" of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods.
Now: Put an extra $1,000 into everyone's pockets = We now have x+$1000 of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods = Prices will rise.
Its supply & demand.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:34 PM (TN0g+)
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M'yes...algebra. I shouldn't have had any trouble with it, because, as a rule, I wasn't bad at math, but, in my senior year, you see, there was this girl, and I got severely sidetracked and didn't study sufficiently and was facing a disaster. The thing that saved me was that I was sick and missed a major test, so I came in to take a make-up test, and Mrs. O'Keefe - god bless her soul - inadvertently attached the answer sheet to the back of the exam.
Posted by: Paco at March 20, 2025 04:34 PM (mADJX)
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Time to set a Google alert on "judge reverses Trump EO closing DOE"
Time to set a Google alert on "judge reverses Trump EO closing DOE"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:34 PM (lCaJd)
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A mime is an adorable thing to tase...
Posted by: muldoon at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (/iMjX)
lol!
There was a show in the late 80's where some cocaine cowboys were torturing a performer who used the theatrical technique of suggesting action, character, or emotion without words, using only gesture, expression, and movement. They put his head in some kind of mechanical squeezing thing.
I think the episode was called Mime Vise.
Posted by: muldoon at March 20, 2025 04:28 PM (/iMjX)
lol!
There was a show in the late 80's where some cocaine cowboys were torturing a performer who used the theatrical technique of suggesting action, character, or emotion without words, using only gesture, expression, and movement. They put his head in some kind of mechanical squeezing thing.
I think the episode was called Mime Vise.
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (NMT5x)
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332 I feel a disturbance in the force, as if millions of groomer teachers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
Posted by: Judge Kamehameha at March 20, 2025 04:32 PM (i24o9)
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I felt it too. Those freaks with stupid degrees get a minor in education and end up on TicTok telling us all how they enjoy telling your kids about their sex life.
Posted by: Judge Kamehameha at March 20, 2025 04:32 PM (i24o9)
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I felt it too. Those freaks with stupid degrees get a minor in education and end up on TicTok telling us all how they enjoy telling your kids about their sex life.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (PMtkd)
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How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation? I agree it shouldn’t be given to everyone; it should be a non-refundable tax credit paid up-front.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
==
People on Obamacare, unemployment, or disability will tell you they are just getting the money they paid into the system.
We've seen that when you give people short term stimulus like this, they spend it on stupid things.
I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
Well, it's their money. So, they can spend it on whatever they want, including "stupid things".
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
==
People on Obamacare, unemployment, or disability will tell you they are just getting the money they paid into the system.
We've seen that when you give people short term stimulus like this, they spend it on stupid things.
I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
Well, it's their money. So, they can spend it on whatever they want, including "stupid things".
Posted by: naturalfake at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (iJfKG)
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Oh, and it's closer to two and a half months.
Sure, summer break is around that, or 3 months. But you add spring break and all the "in service" days, Christmas Break, and all the rest and its closer to 4+ months off a year. In addition to weekends.
Sure, summer break is around that, or 3 months. But you add spring break and all the "in service" days, Christmas Break, and all the rest and its closer to 4+ months off a year. In addition to weekends.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (2VST1)
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its not inflationary if its your money returned.
Posted by: Oldcat
The treasury dept literally fires up a printer and mails out checks. It is the textbook definition of inflationary.
Posted by: Oldcat
The treasury dept literally fires up a printer and mails out checks. It is the textbook definition of inflationary.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (lTGtQ)
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>>> Paid 2.5 months off.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:29 PM (i24o9)
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They get paid for 9+ months of work. If you want them to work 12 months not only will have to put in A/C in every single school (as around these parts school gets released if it's over 90 degrees) you'd also have to pay teachers more for working 12 months. That said, I've never joined a teachers union, and I want to see the DOE closed down for good!
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:29 PM (i24o9)
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They get paid for 9+ months of work. If you want them to work 12 months not only will have to put in A/C in every single school (as around these parts school gets released if it's over 90 degrees) you'd also have to pay teachers more for working 12 months. That said, I've never joined a teachers union, and I want to see the DOE closed down for good!
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (6TlG5)
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shuttle diplomacy is the word !
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)
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Eh, like USAID, the DoEd was later codified in law. But if the DoEd act is anything like the law that codified USAID, the secretary has broad discretion on organizing and reorganizing. That's what seems to be happening with USAID getting gutted.
Neither USAID nor the DoEd should have ballooned into what they ended up as, and if this is the first step in abolishing both, all the better.
Neither USAID nor the DoEd should have ballooned into what they ended up as, and if this is the first step in abolishing both, all the better.
Posted by: McLurkerson at March 20, 2025 04:36 PM (/K/KA)
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309 2-minute video:
Congresswoman Harriet Hageman describes
$ laundering at at the Department of Education
https://tinyurl.com/2h9m7bbx
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (qpw89)
I remember when I thought only the mafia did money laundering, which I learned from movies like Goodfellas.
Sigh...
Posted by: haffhowershower
The FedGov spent decades chasing around the Mafia. They took notes on Mafia techniques. The FedGov learned valuable useful lessons.
Congresswoman Harriet Hageman describes
$ laundering at at the Department of Education
https://tinyurl.com/2h9m7bbx
Posted by: Kathy at March 20, 2025 04:10 PM (qpw89)
I remember when I thought only the mafia did money laundering, which I learned from movies like Goodfellas.
Sigh...
Posted by: haffhowershower
The FedGov spent decades chasing around the Mafia. They took notes on Mafia techniques. The FedGov learned valuable useful lessons.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at March 20, 2025 04:36 PM (sAmhv)
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here is no way for teachers to have any actual discipline in the classroom. Most parents refuse to believe their child could possibly do anything wrong. The teachers can't do much of anything, even when a kid gets violent.
Anyone who actually wants a good education for their child, and can afford to do it is putting their kids in private school, and the magnet schools in the public school system take all the smart kids whose parents can't afford private school, so the classes are mostly composed of the mediocre at best kids, the kids whose parents can't or won't discipline them, and the kids whose parents who use school as a baby sitting service ( can't or won't follow up on homework assignments, poor attendance, etc)
Add in all the issues that come with the kids who are bussed in from the bad parts of town, and you have an awful situation.
I know we like to bag on teachers here, but it's not the job it once was.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
Well, there is - you go back to a detention/suspension/expulsion system. Make behavior have penalties, not just rewards.
Anyone who actually wants a good education for their child, and can afford to do it is putting their kids in private school, and the magnet schools in the public school system take all the smart kids whose parents can't afford private school, so the classes are mostly composed of the mediocre at best kids, the kids whose parents can't or won't discipline them, and the kids whose parents who use school as a baby sitting service ( can't or won't follow up on homework assignments, poor attendance, etc)
Add in all the issues that come with the kids who are bussed in from the bad parts of town, and you have an awful situation.
I know we like to bag on teachers here, but it's not the job it once was.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
Well, there is - you go back to a detention/suspension/expulsion system. Make behavior have penalties, not just rewards.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:36 PM (tOcjL)
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I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
well you can't. Tax cuts don't 'spend' and can't be paid for. You could give it to the taxpayer, or use it in the general fund to retire the national debt. Anything else and the fistful of money you have must be spent on government waste and is inflationary.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
well you can't. Tax cuts don't 'spend' and can't be paid for. You could give it to the taxpayer, or use it in the general fund to retire the national debt. Anything else and the fistful of money you have must be spent on government waste and is inflationary.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:36 PM (n7h9X)
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Karoline was asked about the DoEd, and she said that the some functions will remain. It is the size that will shrink. Tremendously.
Posted by: runner at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (g47mK)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (i24o9)
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How does giving taxpayers their own money back spike inflation? I agree it shouldn’t be given to everyone; it should be a non-refundable tax credit paid up-front.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Taxes paid and government spending are not related at all. Someone cannot get their money back. They dont have a big safe where they store cash, they literally buy bonds with it, and shred bonds when they decide to pay money out.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
Taxes paid and government spending are not related at all. Someone cannot get their money back. They dont have a big safe where they store cash, they literally buy bonds with it, and shred bonds when they decide to pay money out.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (lTGtQ)
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They took notes on Mafia techniques. The FedGov learned valuable useful lessons.
Oh yes, by the time Clinton was president, they were busy turning the federal government into the same model.
Oh yes, by the time Clinton was president, they were busy turning the federal government into the same model.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (2VST1)
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Anyone looking for a good read, and confirmation on Trump Foreign Policy having the desired result, check out this article in the Financial Times:
https://tinyurl.com/m45serjd
Essentially, it tells the story of how Europe has been living as parasites off the US, and now that they are forced to build their own defenses, their social programs are going to suffer immensely. We're talking social benefits that would never have existed were it not for the US paying the defense bill all these years. A vast majority of their infrastructure was established at our expense. They have a dependency problem. It's a good article.
https://tinyurl.com/m45serjd
Essentially, it tells the story of how Europe has been living as parasites off the US, and now that they are forced to build their own defenses, their social programs are going to suffer immensely. We're talking social benefits that would never have existed were it not for the US paying the defense bill all these years. A vast majority of their infrastructure was established at our expense. They have a dependency problem. It's a good article.
Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (dIske)
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DeSantis in the crowd attending the EO ceremony.
Posted by: Jen the original at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (KgXkV)
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Add in all the issues that come with the kids who are bussed in from the bad parts of town, and you have an awful situation.
I know we like to bag on teachers here, but it's not the job it once was.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
Get rid of "public" schools and let the Monster Children be. The will be dead or in prison soon enough. Skip the "education" which is a waste of time and resources.
I know we like to bag on teachers here, but it's not the job it once was.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
Get rid of "public" schools and let the Monster Children be. The will be dead or in prison soon enough. Skip the "education" which is a waste of time and resources.
Posted by: Warden Samuel Norton at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (u5iGG)
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Simple: We have x "supply" of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods.
Now: Put an extra $1,000 into everyone's pockets = We now have x+$1000 of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods = Prices will rise.
Its supply & demand.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:34 PM (TN0g+)
But it’s not creating new money out of thin air. You have three options here:
- gov’t spends that $1000, it ends up in the pockets of grifter parasites and Democrats
- gov’t pays down debt, $1000 ends up in pockets of bondholders
- gov’t refunds taxes to net taxpayers, $1000 ends up in the pockets of productive citizens
Now: Put an extra $1,000 into everyone's pockets = We now have x+$1000 of cash chasing a more or less fixed production of goods = Prices will rise.
Its supply & demand.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:34 PM (TN0g+)
But it’s not creating new money out of thin air. You have three options here:
- gov’t spends that $1000, it ends up in the pockets of grifter parasites and Democrats
- gov’t pays down debt, $1000 ends up in pockets of bondholders
- gov’t refunds taxes to net taxpayers, $1000 ends up in the pockets of productive citizens
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358 DeSantis in the crowd attending the EO ceremony.
Posted by: Jen the original at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (KgXkV)
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Good.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:38 PM (PMtkd)
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Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
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You've described a horrible situation that needs to change, especially the part about violent kids. Laws need to change. Or maybe they simply need to be enforced. Ugh, Governor Harris will surely see to it.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at March 20, 2025 04:33 PM (Vvh2V)
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You've described a horrible situation that needs to change, especially the part about violent kids. Laws need to change. Or maybe they simply need to be enforced. Ugh, Governor Harris will surely see to it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:38 PM (lCaJd)
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The treasury dept literally fires up a printer and mails out checks. It is the textbook definition of inflationary.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (lTGtQ)
in exchange for setting fire to many more and larger checks.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (lTGtQ)
in exchange for setting fire to many more and larger checks.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (n7h9X)
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And a few million angry lesbians cried out in anguish.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (MGB5H)
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BUT THE TEACHERS DONT GET PAID ENOUGH.
This is making me quite excited down there.
All those asshole piece of shit teachers panicking, those scumbag administrators letting kids get bullied and fucked with, the closet homos, the pervs, the social studies teachers teaching communism is great, the scam artists.
Will the money "saved" stay in the states and actually do something, who the hell knows.
BUT THE TEACHERS DONT GET PAID ENOUGH.
This is making me quite excited down there.
All those asshole piece of shit teachers panicking, those scumbag administrators letting kids get bullied and fucked with, the closet homos, the pervs, the social studies teachers teaching communism is great, the scam artists.
Will the money "saved" stay in the states and actually do something, who the hell knows.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (pUTg0)
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>>> Sure, summer break is around that, or 3 months. But you add spring break and all the "in service" days, Christmas Break, and all the rest and its closer to 4+ months off a year. In addition to weekends.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (2VST1)
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Listen, I’m on your side. But regardless of all the Christmas/spring breaks, students are required to be in class for 181 days. No more, no less. Teachers 10-15 days beyond that. And teachers get paid for those 201+ days accordingly. No more, no less.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2025 04:35 PM (2VST1)
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Listen, I’m on your side. But regardless of all the Christmas/spring breaks, students are required to be in class for 181 days. No more, no less. Teachers 10-15 days beyond that. And teachers get paid for those 201+ days accordingly. No more, no less.
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (6TlG5)
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352 I would just use DOGE cuts for across the board tax cuts, no short term "dividend" checks.
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
well you can't. Tax cuts don't 'spend' and can't be paid for. You could give it to the taxpayer, or use it in the general fund to retire the national debt. Anything else and the fistful of money you have must be spent on government waste and is inflationary.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:36 PM (n7h9X)
Reduced government spending is DEflationary, so if we reduce $2T, I'm sure we can handle the reinflating of $200B or so...inflation should NOT be a reason we don't do it, b/c we may need that inflation in a year (you don't want to have the debt we do and end up in an actual deflationary environment)...
jmo
Posted by: Leupold at March 20, 2025 04:31 PM (4pwAx)
well you can't. Tax cuts don't 'spend' and can't be paid for. You could give it to the taxpayer, or use it in the general fund to retire the national debt. Anything else and the fistful of money you have must be spent on government waste and is inflationary.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:36 PM (n7h9X)
Reduced government spending is DEflationary, so if we reduce $2T, I'm sure we can handle the reinflating of $200B or so...inflation should NOT be a reason we don't do it, b/c we may need that inflation in a year (you don't want to have the debt we do and end up in an actual deflationary environment)...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (tOcjL)
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Junior high P.E. we had a section on tumbling and were graded on doing a sequence consisting of a frog stand into a headstand, to a forward somersault, to a diving forward somersault to a cartwheel followed by a round-off to a backward somersault into a kip and finally a forward handspring.
I was long and skinny, so could never manage the kip or handspring, but managed the rest.
I was long and skinny, so could never manage the kip or handspring, but managed the rest.
Posted by: muldoon at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (/iMjX)
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But it’s not creating new money out of thin air. You have three options here:
- gov’t spends that $1000, it ends up in the pockets of grifter parasites and Democrats
- gov’t pays down debt, $1000 ends up in pockets of bondholders
- gov’t refunds taxes to net taxpayers, $1000 ends up in the pockets of productive citizens
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There's no getting around the fact that the third option is inflationary. Government spending is inflationary as well, but that's (largely) a topic for another day.
- gov’t spends that $1000, it ends up in the pockets of grifter parasites and Democrats
- gov’t pays down debt, $1000 ends up in pockets of bondholders
- gov’t refunds taxes to net taxpayers, $1000 ends up in the pockets of productive citizens
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There's no getting around the fact that the third option is inflationary. Government spending is inflationary as well, but that's (largely) a topic for another day.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (TN0g+)
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369 There's no getting around the fact that the third option is inflationary. Government spending is inflationary as well, but that's (largely) a topic for another day.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (TN0g+)
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Assuming the $1000 was taxed completely, returning it to the people who paid it is not inflationary. It's not adding to the money supply.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:39 PM (TN0g+)
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Assuming the $1000 was taxed completely, returning it to the people who paid it is not inflationary. It's not adding to the money supply.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)
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>>There's no getting around the fact that the third option is inflationary. Government spending is inflationary as well, but that's (largely) a topic for another day.
People tend to save their own money at a much higher rate than government which doesn't save any of their money.
People tend to save their own money at a much higher rate than government which doesn't save any of their money.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 20, 2025 04:41 PM (LkLld)
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Tax cuts are the only way. Let us keep more of the money we earn. It's a penalty anyway. We are not funding the military.
I don't know the line but most of us shouldn't be paying income tax (federal).
I don't know the line but most of us shouldn't be paying income tax (federal).
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:41 PM (PMtkd)
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It'll be back, just slimmer and sweeter.
S.510 - A bill to establish a Department of Education, and for other purposes. 96th Congress (1979-1980) Sponsor: Sen. Ribicoff, Abraham A. [D-CT] (Introduced 01/24/1979)
In October 1979, Congress passed the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-8
. Created by combining offices from several federal agencies, the Department began operations in May 1980.
Included (6) to encourage the involvement of the public, parents, and students in Federal education programs;
Signed Jimmy C.
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ed dot gov/about: An Overview of the U. S. Department of Education
In part, "In the 1860s, a budget of $15,000 and four employees handled education fact-finding. By 1965, the Office of Education had more than 2,100 employees and a budget of $1.5 billion. As of mid-2010, the Department has nearly 4,300 employees and a budget of about $60 billion."
"Page last reviewed Jan 15, 2025"
S.510 - A bill to establish a Department of Education, and for other purposes. 96th Congress (1979-1980) Sponsor: Sen. Ribicoff, Abraham A. [D-CT] (Introduced 01/24/1979)
In October 1979, Congress passed the Department of Education Organization Act (Public Law 96-8
. Created by combining offices from several federal agencies, the Department began operations in May 1980.
Included (6) to encourage the involvement of the public, parents, and students in Federal education programs;
Signed Jimmy C.
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ed dot gov/about: An Overview of the U. S. Department of Education
In part, "In the 1860s, a budget of $15,000 and four employees handled education fact-finding. By 1965, the Office of Education had more than 2,100 employees and a budget of $1.5 billion. As of mid-2010, the Department has nearly 4,300 employees and a budget of about $60 billion."
"Page last reviewed Jan 15, 2025"
Posted by: Use the correct terminology at March 20, 2025 04:41 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at March 20, 2025 04:41 PM (bFCtq)
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Assuming the $1000 was taxed completely, returning it to the people who paid it is not inflationary. It's not adding to the money supply.
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Its absolutely "adding to the money supply" in that we don't "have* to do it, and chose to, and mailed the checks. If had simply done nothing, we would have *by definition* a smaller money supply.
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Its absolutely "adding to the money supply" in that we don't "have* to do it, and chose to, and mailed the checks. If had simply done nothing, we would have *by definition* a smaller money supply.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (TN0g+)
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Public school teachers do have a valid complaint about funding: the administration takes up way too much of the budget and teachers are jacked out of supplies and proper equipment for the classroom. They literally have to buy crap for their classroom out of their own pocket that ought to come from the budget.
Instead, Principal Gooner gets 4 assistant principals and a staff of secretaries and instructional assistants and counselors and staff. HALF the faculty ends up being administration, not teachers. And that's not counting the coaches and janitors etc.
Instead, Principal Gooner gets 4 assistant principals and a staff of secretaries and instructional assistants and counselors and staff. HALF the faculty ends up being administration, not teachers. And that's not counting the coaches and janitors etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (2VST1)
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I think Bush's ADA also hurt education
I'm so sorry to say it but mainstreaming some cases just doesn't work
a relative is a one-on-one aide for a severely Autistic child and she has an assistant. how disruptive is it to have the three of them in a normal 3rd grade? I'm sorry if that's harsh. it's not working (mainstreaming) in some cases.
I'm so sorry to say it but mainstreaming some cases just doesn't work
a relative is a one-on-one aide for a severely Autistic child and she has an assistant. how disruptive is it to have the three of them in a normal 3rd grade? I'm sorry if that's harsh. it's not working (mainstreaming) in some cases.
Posted by: Black Orchid at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
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>>> >>>They get overpaid for 9+ months of work.
Fixed.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (i24o9)
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In my case, would you consider $30k in 2005, which included coaching three sports, AND summer baseball (which means I had no summer break) overpaid?
Fixed.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (i24o9)
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In my case, would you consider $30k in 2005, which included coaching three sports, AND summer baseball (which means I had no summer break) overpaid?
Posted by: Turn 2 at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (6TlG5)
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Essentially, it tells the story of how Europe has been living as parasites off the US, and now that they are forced to build their own defenses, their social programs are going to suffer immensely. We're talking social benefits that would never have existed were it not for the US paying the defense bill all these years. A vast majority of their infrastructure was established at our expense. They have a dependency problem. It's a good article.
Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (dIske)
They aren't having kids. Those social programs can't be paid by kids that aren't there. China has a similar cultural problems. The nation is aging, and kids can't support all the ancestors. They tried real-estate to give everyone hope for the future, but its been scammed and the investment is going bust.
Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (dIske)
They aren't having kids. Those social programs can't be paid by kids that aren't there. China has a similar cultural problems. The nation is aging, and kids can't support all the ancestors. They tried real-estate to give everyone hope for the future, but its been scammed and the investment is going bust.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (n7h9X)
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Attorney General Pamela Bondi Announces Severe Charges Against Violent Tesla Arsonists
WASHINGTON — Today, Attorney General Pamela Bondi announced charges against three individuals responsible for the violent destruction of Tesla properties. All three defendants will face the full force of the law for using Molotov cocktails to set fire to Tesla cars and charging stations.
“The days of committing crimes without consequence have ended,” said Attorney General Pamela Bondi. “Let this be a warning: if you join this wave of domestic terrorism against Tesla properties, the Department of Justice will put you behind bars.”
One defendant, also armed with a suppressed AR-15 rifle, was arrested after throwing approximately eight Molotov cocktails at a Tesla dealership located in Salem, Oregon.
Another was arrested in Loveland, Colorado, after attempting to light Teslas on fire with Molotov cocktails. The defendant was later found in possession of materials used to produce additional incendiary weapons.
In Charleston, South Carolina, a third defendant wrote profane messages against President Trump around Tesla charging stations before lighting the charging stations on fire with Molotov cock
WASHINGTON — Today, Attorney General Pamela Bondi announced charges against three individuals responsible for the violent destruction of Tesla properties. All three defendants will face the full force of the law for using Molotov cocktails to set fire to Tesla cars and charging stations.
“The days of committing crimes without consequence have ended,” said Attorney General Pamela Bondi. “Let this be a warning: if you join this wave of domestic terrorism against Tesla properties, the Department of Justice will put you behind bars.”
One defendant, also armed with a suppressed AR-15 rifle, was arrested after throwing approximately eight Molotov cocktails at a Tesla dealership located in Salem, Oregon.
Another was arrested in Loveland, Colorado, after attempting to light Teslas on fire with Molotov cocktails. The defendant was later found in possession of materials used to produce additional incendiary weapons.
In Charleston, South Carolina, a third defendant wrote profane messages against President Trump around Tesla charging stations before lighting the charging stations on fire with Molotov cock
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (/tzYP)
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tails.
Each defendant faces serious charges carrying a minimum penalty of five years and up to 20 years in prison.
The Department of Justice is committed to ending all acts of violence and arson directed at Tesla properties and otherwise.
Each defendant faces serious charges carrying a minimum penalty of five years and up to 20 years in prison.
The Department of Justice is committed to ending all acts of violence and arson directed at Tesla properties and otherwise.
Posted by: andycanuck (/tzYP) at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (/tzYP)
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It’s odd that the only thing that “creates inflation” is giving money back to taxpayers. Not spending it on USAID. Not paying down the debt and giving that money to bondholders.
Nope, just letting productive citizens keep the fruits of their labor. Why, doesn’t everyone know how horrible inflation was prior to the 1930s when FDR ended the gold standard and went on a spending spree?
Nope, just letting productive citizens keep the fruits of their labor. Why, doesn’t everyone know how horrible inflation was prior to the 1930s when FDR ended the gold standard and went on a spending spree?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (/q9k6)
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We need PE in highschool where else would lesbians use their Physical Education degrees?
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (PMtkd)
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Who is the woman Pres, Trump brought up at the end of video-the one he nominated to head the Dept of Education? What does she do now if the Dept is disbanded?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (42Vb+)
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NOOD
Trump, Republicans At All-Time High in Public Approval, Says (Liberally-Skewed) Fox News Poll
NOOD!
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Trump, Republicans At All-Time High in Public Approval, Says (Liberally-Skewed) Fox News Poll
NOOD!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (O7YUW)
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Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (dIske)
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European nations having to cut social programs? Things could get very ugly.
Posted by: Orson at March 20, 2025 04:37 PM (dIske)
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European nations having to cut social programs? Things could get very ugly.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (lCaJd)
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People tend to save their own money at a much higher rate than government which doesn't save any of their money.
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I'm not advocating against tax cuts.
I'm advocating against sending people checks who we don't by law (yet) have to send checks. Sending the checks will by definition by inflationary.
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I'm not advocating against tax cuts.
I'm advocating against sending people checks who we don't by law (yet) have to send checks. Sending the checks will by definition by inflationary.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (TN0g+)
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375 Its absolutely "adding to the money supply" in that we don't "have* to do it, and chose to, and mailed the checks. If had simply done nothing, we would have *by definition* a smaller money supply.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (TN0g+)
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That's not inflation. That's maintaining the current money supply without change.
The money already existed. It was taxed. It then got returned. That's not adding to the money supply.
You're arguing in favor of deflation, which is fine. But that doesn't mean that returning already taxed money is inflation.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (TN0g+)
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That's not inflation. That's maintaining the current money supply without change.
The money already existed. It was taxed. It then got returned. That's not adding to the money supply.
You're arguing in favor of deflation, which is fine. But that doesn't mean that returning already taxed money is inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (GBKbO)
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consisting of a frog stand into a headstand, to a forward somersault, to a diving forward somersault to a cartwheel followed by a round-off to a backward somersault into a kip and finally a forward handspring.
Wearing a dingus with an apparatus that squirts warm cream corn.
Wearing a dingus with an apparatus that squirts warm cream corn.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (bFCtq)
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Who is the woman Pres, Trump brought up at the end of video-the one he nominated to head the Dept of Education? What does she do now if the Dept is disbanded?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (42Vb+)
Linda McMahon. It's not gone just gutted and her goal
Is to see the doors closed and go back home.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 20, 2025 04:43 PM (42Vb+)
Linda McMahon. It's not gone just gutted and her goal
Is to see the doors closed and go back home.
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (MGB5H)
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It’s odd that the only thing that “creates inflation” is giving money back to taxpayers. Not spending it on USAID. Not paying down the debt and giving that money to bondholders.
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I already said a couple of posts back that government spending is inflationary.
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I already said a couple of posts back that government spending is inflationary.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (TN0g+)
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>>Its absolutely "adding to the money supply" in that we don't "have* to do it, and chose to, and mailed the checks. If had simply done nothing, we would have *by definition* a smaller money supply.
No. The supply would be the same. The location of the money and where it is spent would just be different.
Taxation isn't a control on Inflation. It's merely a control on the perception of inflation by the Taxed.
No. The supply would be the same. The location of the money and where it is spent would just be different.
Taxation isn't a control on Inflation. It's merely a control on the perception of inflation by the Taxed.
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (yHAEf)
Posted by: muldoon at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (/iMjX)
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In Charleston, South Carolina, a third defendant wrote profane messages against President Trump
It sounds like such old fashioned language. Guy obviously wrong "F Trump", right?
It sounds like such old fashioned language. Guy obviously wrong "F Trump", right?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 20, 2025 04:45 PM (42Vb+)
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The Value of my dollar does not increase in any relation to the Taxes levied on other dollars.
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:45 PM (yHAEf)
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I think Bush's ADA also hurt education
I'm so sorry to say it but mainstreaming some cases just doesn't work
a relative is a one-on-one aide for a severely Autistic child and she has an assistant. how disruptive is it to have the three of them in a normal 3rd grade? I'm sorry if that's harsh. it's not working (mainstreaming) in some cases.
Posted by: Black Orchid at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
Yeah mainstreaming was having some burly dude on our block here at work singing and shouting at the Porsche dealership for years. One year he vanished for good, must have got a bad batch of fentanyl or something, and he did keep the other homeless far away.
I'm so sorry to say it but mainstreaming some cases just doesn't work
a relative is a one-on-one aide for a severely Autistic child and she has an assistant. how disruptive is it to have the three of them in a normal 3rd grade? I'm sorry if that's harsh. it's not working (mainstreaming) in some cases.
Posted by: Black Orchid at March 20, 2025 04:42 PM (Pv3Rg)
Yeah mainstreaming was having some burly dude on our block here at work singing and shouting at the Porsche dealership for years. One year he vanished for good, must have got a bad batch of fentanyl or something, and he did keep the other homeless far away.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:45 PM (n7h9X)
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Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:45 PM (yHAEf)
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We agree on something else.
End times?
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We agree on something else.
End times?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:45 PM (GBKbO)
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New York Times, Trump’s Battles With Colleges Could Change American Culture for a Generation
Many in higher education worry Trump’s efforts to bend academia to his will could end American leadership in research and science. Universities are not finding many allies to defend them. Published Mar. 20, 2025
Many in higher education worry Trump’s efforts to bend academia to his will could end American leadership in research and science. Universities are not finding many allies to defend them. Published Mar. 20, 2025
Posted by: Use the correct terminology at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (yHAEf)
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It’s odd that the only thing that “creates inflation” is giving money back to taxpayers. Not spending it on USAID. Not paying down the debt and giving that money to bondholders.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". - Milton Friedman.
If you print money, you are adding to the money supply. No matter what you do with it. What we have done, especially in the previous four years, was to print money such that there is 40 percent more in circulation now, much of it handed out to illegal aliens, in order to gin up the GDP numbers, because nobody looks at inflation adjusted GDP.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". - Milton Friedman.
If you print money, you are adding to the money supply. No matter what you do with it. What we have done, especially in the previous four years, was to print money such that there is 40 percent more in circulation now, much of it handed out to illegal aliens, in order to gin up the GDP numbers, because nobody looks at inflation adjusted GDP.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (lTGtQ)
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The money already existed. It was taxed. It then got returned. That's not adding to the money supply.
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The moment you start mailing checks that didn't exist before you have created "new" money, and added to inflation. Come on man, why do you think everything got so crazy expensive during Covid? The "good intentions" of the mailing entity doesn't magically make the creation of new money itself somehow completely oblivious to supply and demand curves.
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The moment you start mailing checks that didn't exist before you have created "new" money, and added to inflation. Come on man, why do you think everything got so crazy expensive during Covid? The "good intentions" of the mailing entity doesn't magically make the creation of new money itself somehow completely oblivious to supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (TN0g+)
402
We agree on something else
This can't keep happening.
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (yHAEf)
Quit crossing the streams!
This can't keep happening.
Posted by: garrett at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (yHAEf)
Quit crossing the streams!
Posted by: BruceWayne at March 20, 2025 04:47 PM (MGB5H)
403
nood?
Posted by: DaveA at March 20, 2025 04:47 PM (FhXTo)
404
401 The money already existed. It was taxed. It then got returned. That's not adding to the money supply.
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The moment you start mailing checks that didn't exist before you have created "new" money, and added to inflation. Come on man, why do you think everything got so crazy expensive during Covid? The "good intentions" of the mailing entity doesn't magically make the creation of new money itself somehow completely oblivious to supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (TN0g+)
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No money was created in this instance. It was taxed and taken.
A government check isn't automatically inflationary just by being a government check.
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The moment you start mailing checks that didn't exist before you have created "new" money, and added to inflation. Come on man, why do you think everything got so crazy expensive during Covid? The "good intentions" of the mailing entity doesn't magically make the creation of new money itself somehow completely oblivious to supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:46 PM (TN0g+)
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No money was created in this instance. It was taxed and taken.
A government check isn't automatically inflationary just by being a government check.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:48 PM (GBKbO)
405
No. The supply would be the same. The location of the money and where it is spent would just be different.
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Nope, because the money you're sending out if *new* money created. The old money was just sitting somewhere in a government bank (the old days) or created with a government bond (the new days). The moment you mail it out, that's *new* money. Its inflationary--its the very definition of inflation.
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Nope, because the money you're sending out if *new* money created. The old money was just sitting somewhere in a government bank (the old days) or created with a government bond (the new days). The moment you mail it out, that's *new* money. Its inflationary--its the very definition of inflation.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:49 PM (TN0g+)
406
No money was created in this instance. It was taxed and taken.
A government check isn't automatically inflationary just by being a government check.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Every 100 days, the federal government is spending a trilllion dollars more than they take in taxes. That is borrowed money being added to the money supply.
A government check isn't automatically inflationary just by being a government check.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
Every 100 days, the federal government is spending a trilllion dollars more than they take in taxes. That is borrowed money being added to the money supply.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 20, 2025 04:50 PM (lTGtQ)
407
A government check isn't automatically inflationary just by being a government check.
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It is *literally* inflationary. It doesn't matter if that check goes for bullets, tanks, or library books, the created money increases the money supply competing for a *fixed* rate of goods--that's the definition of inflation.
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It is *literally* inflationary. It doesn't matter if that check goes for bullets, tanks, or library books, the created money increases the money supply competing for a *fixed* rate of goods--that's the definition of inflation.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:50 PM (TN0g+)
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407 A government check isn't automatically inflationary just by being a government check.
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It is *literally* inflationary. It doesn't matter if that check goes for bullets, tanks, or library books, the created money increases the money supply competing for a *fixed* rate of goods--that's the definition of inflation.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:50 PM (TN0g+)
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Why do you keep ignoring the part of the hypothetical about it being taxed?
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It is *literally* inflationary. It doesn't matter if that check goes for bullets, tanks, or library books, the created money increases the money supply competing for a *fixed* rate of goods--that's the definition of inflation.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:50 PM (TN0g+)
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Why do you keep ignoring the part of the hypothetical about it being taxed?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:51 PM (GBKbO)
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It’s odd that the only thing that “creates inflation” is giving money back to taxpayers. Not spending it on USAID. Not paying down the debt and giving that money to bondholders.
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I already said a couple of posts back that government spending is inflationary.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (TN0g+)
That in excess of taxes paid, sure. Under that it isn't inflationary as some of it at least can add value to society ... army, navy cops ... judges less so. Waste fraud and useless programs are oppressive but not inflationary if paid with actual tax dollars.
PJ ORourke had a pithy rule "would i shoot someone if they wouldn't pay" to judge the line where things people are taxed can't be justified. No, Dems, we do not think that LGBT plays in Bhutan is a valid reason to spend tax money on, even if the budget were balanced.
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I already said a couple of posts back that government spending is inflationary.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (TN0g+)
That in excess of taxes paid, sure. Under that it isn't inflationary as some of it at least can add value to society ... army, navy cops ... judges less so. Waste fraud and useless programs are oppressive but not inflationary if paid with actual tax dollars.
PJ ORourke had a pithy rule "would i shoot someone if they wouldn't pay" to judge the line where things people are taxed can't be justified. No, Dems, we do not think that LGBT plays in Bhutan is a valid reason to spend tax money on, even if the budget were balanced.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:52 PM (n7h9X)
410
It seems like every govt agency has been dedicated to destroying the fabric of the US in many, many well-funded ways.
It seems like every govt agency has been dedicated to destroying the fabric of the US in many, many well-funded ways.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (pUTg0)
411
Why do you keep ignoring the part of the hypothetical about it being taxed?
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It has no bearing.
If you want to pretend "its not a $1000 check, its a $650 check because we taxed it" (or some other made up number), we've still literally increased the money supply chasing a fixed level of goods and services. That's inflationary, regardless of the intent.
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It has no bearing.
If you want to pretend "its not a $1000 check, its a $650 check because we taxed it" (or some other made up number), we've still literally increased the money supply chasing a fixed level of goods and services. That's inflationary, regardless of the intent.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (TN0g+)
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It is *literally* inflationary. It doesn't matter if that check goes for bullets, tanks, or library books, the created money increases the money supply competing for a *fixed* rate of goods--that's the definition of inflation.
No it isn't the definition of inflation. Inflation is when the total amount of money grows. My tax dollar is destroyed when it enters DC. It then can be turned into a check for a Abrams tank. That part of the tank is paid for by me, and thus not inflationary.
No it isn't the definition of inflation. Inflation is when the total amount of money grows. My tax dollar is destroyed when it enters DC. It then can be turned into a check for a Abrams tank. That part of the tank is paid for by me, and thus not inflationary.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:55 PM (n7h9X)
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411 Why do you keep ignoring the part of the hypothetical about it being taxed?
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It has no bearing.
If you want to pretend "its not a $1000 check, its a $650 check because we taxed it" (or some other made up number), we've still literally increased the money supply chasing a fixed level of goods and services. That's inflationary, regardless of the intent.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (TN0g+)
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We're talking hypotheticals.
I laid out the terms of it, and you started arguing something else.
Do you see why this discussion is being difficult for us as we essentially just talk past each other?
Why not say, "Sure, in this 'spherical chicken' hypothetical, it wouldn't be inflationary, but that's not how government works"?
Then we could move on from the base argument we're having, find some common ground, and have a good discussion?
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It has no bearing.
If you want to pretend "its not a $1000 check, its a $650 check because we taxed it" (or some other made up number), we've still literally increased the money supply chasing a fixed level of goods and services. That's inflationary, regardless of the intent.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (TN0g+)
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We're talking hypotheticals.
I laid out the terms of it, and you started arguing something else.
Do you see why this discussion is being difficult for us as we essentially just talk past each other?
Why not say, "Sure, in this 'spherical chicken' hypothetical, it wouldn't be inflationary, but that's not how government works"?
Then we could move on from the base argument we're having, find some common ground, and have a good discussion?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:55 PM (GBKbO)
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"Many in higher education worry Trump’s efforts to bend academia to his will could end American leadership in research and science. "
This sentence hides so much it's crazy.
So dishonest.
"Many in higher education worry Trump’s efforts to bend academia to his will could end American leadership in research and science. "
This sentence hides so much it's crazy.
So dishonest.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at March 20, 2025 04:55 PM (pUTg0)
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I already said a couple of posts back that government spending is inflationary.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (TN0g+)
That in excess of taxes paid, sure.
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NO.
Its inflationary, period.
Imagine the price of cars, copiers, phones, any product you wish to name, and how those prices would be affected if all government entities STOPPED buying them.
What does what we know about supply and demand curves suggest would happen to retail prices of those goods?
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:44 PM (TN0g+)
That in excess of taxes paid, sure.
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NO.
Its inflationary, period.
Imagine the price of cars, copiers, phones, any product you wish to name, and how those prices would be affected if all government entities STOPPED buying them.
What does what we know about supply and demand curves suggest would happen to retail prices of those goods?
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:56 PM (TN0g+)
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If you want to pretend "its not a $1000 check, its a $650 check because we taxed it" (or some other made up number), we've still literally increased the money supply chasing a fixed level of goods and services. That's inflationary, regardless of the intent.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (TN0g+)
you are neglecting that cashing the tax check *reduces* the money supply because I can not spend it.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (TN0g+)
you are neglecting that cashing the tax check *reduces* the money supply because I can not spend it.
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 04:56 PM (n7h9X)
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Then we could move on from the base argument we're having, find some common ground, and have a good discussion?
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Because all government spending is inflationary at its core, even if we have a great reason to do it. Save some lives by spending government money? Awesome, lets do that. In fact, let's do a lot of that.
But we can't pretend afterwards that the money we spent didn't affect supply and demand curves.
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Because all government spending is inflationary at its core, even if we have a great reason to do it. Save some lives by spending government money? Awesome, lets do that. In fact, let's do a lot of that.
But we can't pretend afterwards that the money we spent didn't affect supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:58 PM (TN0g+)
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417 Because all government spending is inflationary at its core, even if we have a great reason to do it. Save some lives by spending government money? Awesome, lets do that. In fact, let's do a lot of that.
But we can't pretend afterwards that the money we spent didn't affect supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:58 PM (TN0g+)
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Well, then you're just outright wrong.
Not all government spending is inflationary.
Government taxes $100 and spends $100. The money supply hasn't changed. There's no inflation. Government spending doesn't cause inflation. Increasing the money supply causes inflation.
But we can't pretend afterwards that the money we spent didn't affect supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:58 PM (TN0g+)
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Well, then you're just outright wrong.
Not all government spending is inflationary.
Government taxes $100 and spends $100. The money supply hasn't changed. There's no inflation. Government spending doesn't cause inflation. Increasing the money supply causes inflation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 20, 2025 04:59 PM (GBKbO)
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you are neglecting that cashing the tax check *reduces* the money supply because I can not spend it.
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That's a separate transaction. You paid your taxes, we're supposed to do that.
What we're not (yet, by law anyway) supposed to do is say "Here, have a check on us" after the tax check clears the bank. That's new money creation, and its inflationary.
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That's a separate transaction. You paid your taxes, we're supposed to do that.
What we're not (yet, by law anyway) supposed to do is say "Here, have a check on us" after the tax check clears the bank. That's new money creation, and its inflationary.
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:59 PM (TN0g+)
420
What does what we know about supply and demand curves suggest would happen to retail prices of those goods?
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:56 PM (TN0g+)
So if I buy a tank it is also inflationary? No? Why not?
I have 1000 and i spend it it is not inflationary
I send the same 1000 and they buy bullets and it is inflationary Why? what is the difference?
It only gets inflationary if I send 1000, they spend 2000 and the money supply grows by 1000 not 2000
Posted by: Crusader at March 20, 2025 04:56 PM (TN0g+)
So if I buy a tank it is also inflationary? No? Why not?
I have 1000 and i spend it it is not inflationary
I send the same 1000 and they buy bullets and it is inflationary Why? what is the difference?
It only gets inflationary if I send 1000, they spend 2000 and the money supply grows by 1000 not 2000
Posted by: Oldcat at March 20, 2025 05:00 PM (n7h9X)
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Yes, government spending can contribute to inflation, especially when it's financed by borrowing or printing money, increasing the money supply and demand for goods and services, potentially leading to higher prices.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Increased Demand:
When the government spends more, it injects more money into the economy, potentially increasing demand for goods and services.
Supply Constraints:
If the economy's ability to produce goods and services cannot keep up with this increased demand, prices will rise, leading to inflation.
Money Supply:
If the government finances its spending by borrowing (increasing the national debt) or by having the central bank print more money, the money supply increases.
Inflationary Pressure:
An increase in the money supply without a corresponding increase in the availability of goods and services can lead to inflation, as more money is chasing the same amount of goods.
Examples:
The large stimulus packages implemented during the COVID-19 pandemic, which involved significant government spending, were followed by a period of high inflation, suggesting a potential link between increased government spending and inflation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Increased Demand:
When the government spends more, it injects more money into the economy, potentially increasing demand for goods and services.
Supply Constraints:
If the economy's ability to produce goods and services cannot keep up with this increased demand, prices will rise, leading to inflation.
Money Supply:
If the government finances its spending by borrowing (increasing the national debt) or by having the central bank print more money, the money supply increases.
Inflationary Pressure:
An increase in the money supply without a corresponding increase in the availability of goods and services can lead to inflation, as more money is chasing the same amount of goods.
Examples:
The large stimulus packages implemented during the COVID-19 pandemic, which involved significant government spending, were followed by a period of high inflation, suggesting a potential link between increased government spending and inflation.
Posted by: LET'S ASK GOOGLE AI at March 20, 2025 05:14 PM (TN0g+)
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Ted Cruz interviewing Musk about magic money,
"Ted Cruz:
Now, one of the things you told me about is what you called Magic Money Computers at the Treasury. Tell us about it because I had never heard of that until you brought it up.
Elon Musk:
Okay, so you may think that the government computers all talk to each other, synchronize, add up what funds are going where, and that it’s coherent. And that the numbers, for example, that you’re presented as a senator are actually the real numbers.
Ted Cruz:
One would think.
Elon Musk:
One would think. They’re not.
Ted Cruz:
Yeah."
Continued.
"Ted Cruz:
Now, one of the things you told me about is what you called Magic Money Computers at the Treasury. Tell us about it because I had never heard of that until you brought it up.
Elon Musk:
Okay, so you may think that the government computers all talk to each other, synchronize, add up what funds are going where, and that it’s coherent. And that the numbers, for example, that you’re presented as a senator are actually the real numbers.
Ted Cruz:
One would think.
Elon Musk:
One would think. They’re not.
Ted Cruz:
Yeah."
Continued.
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 05:19 PM (ctrM5)
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Pt. B.
"Elon Musk:
They’re not totally wrong, but they’re probably off by 5% or 10% in some cases. I call a magic money computer any computer that can just make money out of thin air. Best magic money.
Ted Cruz:
How does that work?
Elon Musk:
It just issues payments.
Ted Cruz:
You said there’s something like 11 of these computers at Treasury that are sending out trillions in payments?
Elon Musk:
They’re mostly at Treasury. Some are at HHS, some at… there’s one at State, some at DOD. I think we’ve found 14 magic money computers now.
Ted Cruz:
Fourteen, okay.
Elon Musk:
They just send money out of nothing."
"Elon Musk:
They’re not totally wrong, but they’re probably off by 5% or 10% in some cases. I call a magic money computer any computer that can just make money out of thin air. Best magic money.
Ted Cruz:
How does that work?
Elon Musk:
It just issues payments.
Ted Cruz:
You said there’s something like 11 of these computers at Treasury that are sending out trillions in payments?
Elon Musk:
They’re mostly at Treasury. Some are at HHS, some at… there’s one at State, some at DOD. I think we’ve found 14 magic money computers now.
Ted Cruz:
Fourteen, okay.
Elon Musk:
They just send money out of nothing."
Posted by: whig at March 20, 2025 05:19 PM (ctrM5)
424
WOI YANG HOBI NGENTOD
Posted by: SEO NAGATOP PENGENTOT HANDAL at March 20, 2025 05:53 PM (hJ1Nt)
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It seems like every govt agency has been dedicated to destroying the fabric of the US in many, many well-funded ways.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (pUTg0)
Well the magic money might have started when hand delivering a vetted list of checks became impractical and the issuers just accepted all requests and trusted the sender to make sure their requests were scrutinized. Then with time the senders became non trustworthy themselves, and nobody ever tried to improve the feedback loop so somebody could confirm that a request for a check was vetted.
Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at March 20, 2025 04:53 PM (pUTg0)
Well the magic money might have started when hand delivering a vetted list of checks became impractical and the issuers just accepted all requests and trusted the sender to make sure their requests were scrutinized. Then with time the senders became non trustworthy themselves, and nobody ever tried to improve the feedback loop so somebody could confirm that a request for a check was vetted.
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