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Gun Thread: Pre-March Edition!
FUNdamentals
Well let's kick things off wih this Colt Model 1911 from our pal and content submitter extraordinaire, EdL.
At first glance, this Colt M1911 looks no different than any other old, worn M1911. Only a close look at its serial number and right-side slide markings reveals that it's a milestone firearm. Serial Number 561 was part of the first shipment of five hundred M1911 pistols delivered to the US Navy on March 9, 1912 (one month before RMS Titanic began her ill-fated maiden voyage) at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, NY. It is the 561st M1911 delivered by Colt and the 61st delivered to the US Navy.
The M1911 pistols delivered in the early months of 1912 had several distinct features. The monogramed "WGP" above the magazine catch are the initials of Major Walter G. Penfield, the US Army Ordinance inspector at Colt. His initials signified US Army acceptance of the pistol. The left rear of the slide has the Colt rampant pony within a circle (and a slightly goofy facial expression upon magnification). M1911 pistols delivered in 1912 have rounded rear sights. This reduced wear and tear on the M1912 holsters carrying the M1911. Complaints about using this sight in service changed it to the more familiar rectangular rear sight used to the end of M1911A1 production. The "H" stamped just below the rear sight is the acceptance mark of Frank Hosmer, Major Penfield's civilian deputy. His "H" was placed on all major parts of the pistol (slide, barrel, frame) prior to final assembly.
The magazine catch release has a concave (aka "dimpled") shape. In service, removing the magazine catch release proved difficult. A slip by the soldier attempting to remove the magazine catch would result in the spring holding the catch in place shooting off into the unknown. The Army ordered Colt to change the mechanism to use a convex screw so that a screwdriver could be used to remove the magazine catch. This is the only moving part in John Browning's 1911 design that required changing after entering service. As delivered, this M1911 would have had Colt's commercial "fire blue" finish, with the small parts sporting a bright blue color contrasting with the darker finish of the rest of the pistol. This example has had virtually all of the finish worn off with use. Only a remnant of the bright blue finish is still visible on the trigger and underside of the hammer.
The magazine is one of the few surviving original magazines, identifiable by the exposed edges of the base plate. Magazine problems dogged the M1911 during its first year of service. The feed lips would bend with use. Cracks would form in the corners where metal was bent to shape the magazine. Colt had problems obtaining and working with an acceptable sheet steel with a low enough carbon content to prevent cracking. These problems would not be solved until well into 1913. It appears that the USN continued to use these early M1911s until their complete replacement by Beretta M9s. Serial number 538 now resides in the US Navy Museum's collection. The US Navy Museum received it from a decommissioning ship in 1991 after 79 continuous years of USN service.
M1 Carbine!
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Cigar of the Week
CAO Pilon So on New Year's Eve afternoon, I finished the last cigar of my 2024 surprise package of assorted sticks. Fortunately I was good boy last year, so much so that Santa brought me another pack for 2025. Now that I think about it, Santa and Mrs. D look a lot alike. Except for the beard. Well, the length anyway. Anyway, I concluded the year with the CAO Pilon, of the signature series by Rick Rodriguez. Now I don't enjoy a cigar that when I first put it into my mouth to moisten the end, th first thing I am hit with is that burning, peppery taste. It's not a big thing mind you, but an annoyance that I endure. And I'm glad I did. This was the 5 x 52 stick that after the first 5 minutes, turned into pure smoking pleasure. I forgot about how chilly it was (smoking outside) and how cloudy it was (the Pacific NW after all) and I found myself enjoying a real fine cigar. This pilon boasted a smooth draw, even burn, and a real pleasant flavor. I saw nice smoke development and almost no after-taste. I paired it with a generous dollop of Buffalo Trace bourbon and was sorry to see both the end of the cigar and the bottom of the glass. I fully recommend this cigar to smokers. Again, if you are a beginner, work through the pepper flavor at the start. You will be glad you did.Excellent, Diogenes! Thank you very much!!
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Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:00 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2025 07:01 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 07:01 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Lurking in Garland at February 23, 2025 07:01 PM (rJt05)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 07:03 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: Mrs. Higgs Bosun at February 23, 2025 07:05 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2025 07:06 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 23, 2025 07:07 PM (Hdixl)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2025 07:07 PM (b4o9z)
Anyways, I did make it to a gun range last weekend. The Lone Star Handgun range in San Antonio.
I took my two Sigs with me and my buddy brought down four of his pistols to play with.
Had a great time down there but the steel was not ringing as much as it should have been.
Let me say, I need to get back and practice the FUNDAMENTALS.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:07 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2025 07:07 PM
Branding we are certainly in favor of.
Posted by: THE Ohio State at February 23, 2025 07:08 PM (a3Q+t)
But, if I got that big, beautiful $5,000 check, I do have a list here....
And, thanks, Weasel, for the thread.
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 07:09 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:09 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Short Answer at February 23, 2025 07:10 PM (kM5e4)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:09 PM
To be fair, there are no 44+mm watches.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 07:11 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)
Let's just say I will be holding back buying anything new (except ammo) and will be happy with what I have.
As far as the TXMoMe in October goes, I have booked a hotel room for Thursday - Sunday but I am not booking airfare yet. I can cancel the hotel with no penalty, not so with airfare.
Plan is to work a half day Thursday and get to Dallas in the evening. Attend the MoMe on Friday and Saturday and fly home Sunday.
Work should be able to handle my supervisor and myself being out 1 day.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM (mB6WH)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at February 23, 2025 07:15 PM (VNX3d)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:16 PM (mB6WH)
I got to fly in a Stearman in Hawaii! I was going to ride in a Pitts Special, but it was down for annual maintenance when I arrived. So, while my wife and not-quite-6yo son got a sailplane ride, I got to ride in an open cockpit barnstormer.
Since I had been medically grounded in the AF some years earlier, that was a real thrill. The only disappointment was I couldn't fly it for a bit, because there were no controls at my seat. But I still had bugs in my teeth from the flight.
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 07:16 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 23, 2025 07:07 PM (Hdixl)
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Washington Gun Law posted a video speculating the appointment of Kash Patel was a prelude in breaking up BATFE into 4 separate agencies. The idea being if this is done, it will take years to put the agency back together.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:17 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:11 PM
Purely "coincidentally", would you say you now live in a safe neighborhood?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (Q4Dc6)
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (hzHvq)
Ronin and the RIA 1911. They got a nice line of lube on the slide, too.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (zSjNu)
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I spent a very enjoyable 45 minutes or so doing aerobatics in a Stearman many years ago. If I were ever to buy an airplane, that'd be it.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (hzHvq)
Good to hear that you worked in an extra trip to Texas!
Was that a trip for business, or did you get to go for pure fun and see some buddies?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM (Q4Dc6)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:16 PM
What? Elon is going to the MoMe with his son? LOL
I am trying Ben, my department is small so there is not much coverage sometimes.
But I am putting it in the 70% chance of making it.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM (mB6WH)
Posted by: TRex at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
In most of Rural America, guns in trucks run between 1/3 to 1/2.
Avoid the bars after about 8 ? Safer than its ever been, according to my life experience. An armed society is polite, to a point.
Posted by: Short Answer at February 23, 2025 07:21 PM (kM5e4)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at February 23, 2025 07:21 PM (PdEg9)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM
As long as no one is shooting above the berms Sebs should feel pretty safe. ;-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:21 PM (0XVad)
Gees, sounds like a war zone. Keep low.
Posted by: Case at February 23, 2025 07:22 PM (xcRXq)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:22 PM (mB6WH)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM
The trip to San Antonio was purely for fun. Main reason was to go see Dream Theater perform on their 40th Anniversary tour.
They played at the Majestic Theater which is a really nice place.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:23 PM (0XVad)
Sorry you had a headache.
However, your comment was pure essence of 'ette!
Is there any other community in the U.S., where a lady says: "I had a headache today, so I cleaned my guns"?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:24 PM (Q4Dc6)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:18 PM (Q4Dc6)
Hah. The county also voted 75% for Trump.
But one of the two girls that were planning a school massacre in Houston was from the High School in town.
But yeah, safer than normal😀
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:24 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: TRex at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Homework? On the Gun Thread?
Hmmm...Maybe I should start assigning book reports...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at February 23, 2025 07:25 PM (BpYfr)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:25 PM (mB6WH)
Posted by: TRex at February 23, 2025 07:20 PM
I thought about them.......alot.
Does that count? :-p
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:25 PM (0XVad)
Anyway, loads tested well, though there were a couple of amusing side notes. I had two loads that didn't go where they were supposed to. One dropped low and the other was to the right of where it should have been. Both times, I checked the chronograph and the chronograph confirmed I must not have been as diligent as I should have been when I loaded the ammo.
Anyway, ammo I tested confirmed I was on the right path so I put together some loads for the silhouette match on Saturday, Did okay, 15 for 20. It's nice to finally be competitive when shooting these matches.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:27 PM (tT6L1)
What's the difference between the M1 Carbine and the M1A Carbine?
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 07:28 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:23 PM
Nice!
Those guys are from your neck of the woods, and just a hair older than you. Do you know some of the guys in the band?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:28 PM (Q4Dc6)
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Nice!
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:28 PM (iu4Pw)
Pulled the trigger and ordered a SS Ruger Vaquero 5.5" in 357 mag. from Bud's Guns.
They've been out of stock for two years.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2025 07:30 PM (8eY+W)
Posted by: Skip at February 23, 2025 07:30 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at February 23, 2025 07:31 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:28 PM (iu4Pw)
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Thank you, However, a lot of credit has to go to Coach Weasel for taking the time to work on this with me.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:31 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:32 PM (mB6WH)
1. I cleaned the break room coffee pot no one else seems to care about.
2. I got Karen in the next cubicle to stop wearing so much perfume that was making everyone nauseous.
3. I arranged all my to do paper work in neat piles.
4. Finally learned how to transfer calls without disconnecting the person on the other line.
5. Came back from lunch 15 minutes early to change my voice mail to let people know I will be on vacation next two weeks.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:32 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:31 PM (tT6L1)
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Absolutely my pleasure to work with you. Keep up the great work!
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:33 PM (iu4Pw)
Finally some range time at an annual camping trip.
Sighted in a Browning High-wall in 45-70 tang rear and globe front sights. Fun but punishing…
I was using loads rather more stout than original 45-70 BP - the rifle can handle them but I think my shoulder would appreciate something a bit milder
Chronographed my handloads for cowboy shooting and found they were a lot milder than I expected. Will have to step them up a bit as they probably wouldn’t meet power requirements.
Dinner Saturday was a game stew with venison.
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 23, 2025 07:33 PM (crcb1)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:28 PM
Actually, I am older than them. :-(
No, the only "famous" person I knew was a MLB pitcher who I went to high school with.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:33 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 23, 2025 07:34 PM (Hdixl)
Second ... I liked your long winded explain of accuracy from a carbine. Its stuff I've always known. Everyone around me always has known that the longer the barrel the longer the front post from your eye ... but it really was nice to see someone explain it.
Well done.
Posted by: Short Answer at February 23, 2025 07:34 PM (kM5e4)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:35 PM (iu4Pw)
Work should be able to handle my supervisor and myself being out 1 day.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM
See you in TX, Scoob!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 07:35 PM (Wnv9h)
https://www.pacifictoolandgauge.com/
If you do yield to temptation, make sure you look at the shipping rate options before you place the order. It defaults to a high price option, but you can change it to regular USPS. You're .welcome.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 23, 2025 07:35 PM (rje2B)
What's the difference between the M1 Carbine and the M1A Carbine?
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 07:28 PM (hzHvq)
.30 caliber pistol round and .308 rifle round?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:36 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:32 PM
Hugs right back at ya!
Youngest daughter and Bride of PI have both been pushing me to take them out shooting as soon as the weather warms a bit!
I expect they will both be better shots than I am by the end of this year or next.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:36 PM (Q4Dc6)
Thing probably weighed about 7 lbs.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:37 PM (tT6L1)
They've been out of stock for two years.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 23, 2025 07:30 PM (8eY+W)
Atta' Boy !!! My carry, for about twenty years, was a GP-100 in 4" Stainless. Still have it in my night-stand. Still put it in the truck console on occasion. One Hell of a gun.
Posted by: Short Answer at February 23, 2025 07:37 PM (kM5e4)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:37 PM (VofaG)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM
Hmm...could we convince Rosasharn to comment here?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 07:38 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:39 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 07:39 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: Kratwurst at February 23, 2025 07:39 PM (kL9Oc)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:33 PM
I forgot that the "good guys" age better!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:40 PM (Q4Dc6)
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 23, 2025 07:40 PM (Hdixl)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 23, 2025 07:41 PM (mH6SG)
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 07:42 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:42 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 23, 2025 07:42 PM (QfvaV)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 07:35 PM
We shall see RMBS. I just may only bring the pistols with me this year. Less to lug around. :-)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:44 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: GWB
Imagine how exciting it would have been if you a low level inverted pass and picked up a cane spider or one of the foot long centipedes.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 23, 2025 07:45 PM (/lPRQ)
I know it's not the most "tactical" - but I always tell them shotgun, then revolver. Just for ease of operation which is then safety by definition.
Posted by: Short Answer at February 23, 2025 07:46 PM (kM5e4)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:44 PM
Only a few more months until NH's thawed out.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 07:46 PM (Wnv9h)
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Need to build a 1,000 yard indoor range. To bad USAID doesn't exist any more. Probably could have hit them up for a grant.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:47 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2025 07:49 PM (afZ9r)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 07:46 PM
And don't forget the NoVaMoMe
I figure late March or April I will take the rifle to my range and work out any bugs it might have. It is just to darn cold for ME to operate. LOL
Have to prepare for NH.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:49 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM (mB6WH)
Ben Had, I'm working on a Gun Thread submission that will scratch that itch.
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 07:51 PM (AiJK3)
Hi All
Scubs so glad you will make it to Texas.
Blake you missed a Galbraith discussion on the Book thread.
RMBS you may be overly optimistic with your weather report.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2025 07:51 PM (t/2Uw)
A beautiful 1911!
Posted by: Diogenes at February 23, 2025 07:51 PM (W/lyH)
This one came in at .93 - 1 MOA or less is all I’m asking for!
So, how did I find it? That’s right, I went back to loading Fundamentals. . .
The game changer was weighing each bullet. They ranged from 177.3 to 178.5. I used the 177.7s.
So, the variables were as minimized as possible. The only thing left was the sweet spot in the powder charge.
And I found it, dammit!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (PhL0q)
Have you heard from Jim SND?
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (/4+vQ)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 07:47 PM
That would take wind out of the calculations. :-)
How about an abandoned tunnel?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (/4+vQ)
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No but I read that Doof has. I think the mention was in the Tech thread this morning, comment < 100 as I recall.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:54 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2025 07:54 PM (afZ9r)
Ed L. brought an M11A1 which is a military version of the Sig P229. I had never actually seen a P229 - I have a couple of P226s and my understanding of the 229 is that it is a 226 shortened by a half inch in height and length to make a "carry" gun. That makes it seem like it just isn't that different.
But it is! It is about G19 size. But heavier!
Otherwise the controls are the same.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 23, 2025 07:55 PM (QfvaV)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:55 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2025 07:07 PM (b4o9z)
The Norinco 1911s were well-built guns. IIRC, they were forged from rail road rails. Back in the day, I believe the Norincos were the only foreign-built 1911 clones Wilson Combat would accept for customization.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 07:55 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at February 23, 2025 07:56 PM (bss/y)
Thanks Weasel again for another great thread.
Everyone have a good night and a great week!!!
Night all!!
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:56 PM (0XVad)
Posted by: Ben Had at February 23, 2025 07:14 PM
Particularly those of the *right* calibers.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 07:57 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2025 07:49 PM (afZ9r)
The original finish on that 1911 would have been the same as that on the two Colt New Service revolvers seen here a few months back. The small parts like the screws, trigger, and pins would have had a bright peacock blue color, with the rest of the pistol having a "black chrome" appearance. With the original finish, this 1911 would likely command six figures at an auction today. But sea spray and humidity probably took a toll on the original finish. It looked awesome, but it wasn't very durable.
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 07:57 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 07:58 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 23, 2025 07:58 PM (mH6SG)
So, the variables were as minimized as possible. The only thing left was the sweet spot in the powder charge.
And I found it, dammit!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM
Wow, that is an impressive level of precision Red!
For the overweight bullets, can you scrape a tiny dimple out of the base of the boat-tail and make them all 177.7s?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 07:58 PM (Q4Dc6)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 07:57 PM (a3Q+t)
Smith and Wesson Model 13-3 is impressive. I think I want one.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 07:58 PM (rj6Yv)
How the Higgs Bosun (or its field) is responsible for some particles having mass
How it makes sense that time passes at a different rate when you're moving fast
And the only way I can make sense of the two-slit experiment is by imposing my own notions onto the result.
Posted by: Splunge at February 23, 2025 07:59 PM (afZ9r)
How about an abandoned tunnel?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (0XVad)
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Might not have the height needed. Round I use has a 257 inch drop @ 1,000 yards. Which I believe translates into 21' and change at the apex.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:00 PM (tT6L1)
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A technique I've used with some success is to sort match bullets by base to ogive measurements.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:00 PM (iu4Pw)
Range was packed and took close to an hour to get our two lanes adjacent. I decided to shoot my G44 in 22lr today and decided I have been spoiled by the slimmer grip on my G48. I shot ikay but it just wasn;t as much fun. Had some issues with the new G48MOS which seemed to be resolved with 124 gr ammo. So, need more ammo.
he highlight was shooting Ed's M11A1. What a fabulous trigger and the weight made it easy to keep steady. Although he said the sight was off a bit, I liked the clear white dot which is like my Glocks so had no trouble hitting the target.
All in all a very satisfying day.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2025 08:02 PM (t/2Uw)
Regarding revolvers, I was always a pistol fan. But I bought a Ruger Security Six off a friend and became an instant fan
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at February 23, 2025 08:03 PM (2AW7/)
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 08:04 PM (AiJK3)
So, the variables were as minimized as possible. The only thing left was the sweet spot in the powder charge.
And I found it, dammit!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (PhL0q)
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Excellent! Speaking of details, for some odd reason, I decided to check the length of a bunch of cases I'd done all the prep work to except trim. I couldn't believe it, a bunch of them were running 4 thousands under minimum recommended length. They went in the trash.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:04 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:04 PM (tT6L1)
I rarely pair with booze, probably because I mostly burn in the mid-afternoon, usually conversing with a buddy in a more eastern time zone. So I haven't many pairings with alcohol. Usually drink coffee, which goes well with most sticks.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:05 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: DBCooper at February 23, 2025 08:05 PM (y1Mvi)
The idiot behind the trigger was also operating on all cylinders, even though it was 12 freakin’ degrees!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:06 PM (PhL0q)
The rear sights were the same height but the front sight was lower. I am familiar with these sights coming as #8 and #6 sights (I think #10 is suppressor height). Some pistols get #6 front and rear and some #8 in the rear and #6 up front. I THINK this is what this P229 has - and I also think that the correct fix is to replace the #8 rear with a #6. Does that sound right?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 23, 2025 08:06 PM (QfvaV)
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 07:58 PM (rj6Yv)
S&W has done away with the hated lock on its revolvers starting this year. Perhaps S&W will put out a Model 13 as part of its "Classics" line at some point. The Model 10 and Model 36 are coming out later this year.
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 08:07 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at February 23, 2025 08:07 PM (QfvaV)
The idiot behind the trigger was also operating on all cylinders, even though it was 12 freakin’ degrees!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:06 PM (PhL0q)
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Good job. Getting the ES dialed in is tough.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:07 PM (tT6L1)
No exotic or interesting firearms really. One interesting shooter, the last one, a Navy guy who turns out is from Burkina Faso (the former Upper Volta), who became a member. He was stunned that I had heard of his homeland, and amused with my limited pidgin French. Nice guy.
Also was good to see two younger shooters (20/30 somethings) both with revolvers (Rugers, LP100 and a Redhawk/44) blasting away.
Didn't touch a trigger all day. Barely slept the night before, so shooting was out, plus we lost one of our crew recently and another had to leave early, so short-handed.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:12 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:13 PM (lG3Q4)
Got a nice1100 yard range where the sky is literally the limit on bullet drop.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:14 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:15 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 08:07 PM
I haven't had to deal with the Hillary Hole for over 20 years.
Posted by: Wm. J. "Bubba" Clinton at February 23, 2025 08:17 PM (a3Q+t)
Got a nice1100 yard range where the sky is literally the limit on bullet drop.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:14 PM (PhL0q)
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You know if I'm ever in that area of the country, that would be one of the things I'd love to try.
And if you're ever in my area, we have a range which has what they call, "The Patriot Mile." 1,776 yards. Connect, win a medal. I don't know all the rules but I do know I need to take a crack at it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:17 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:17 PM (1m82a)
Did not retain all my gains on the Sig but did retain some - so a win.
Posted by: Iris at February 23, 2025 08:19 PM (bOJ2I)
Thanks again, weasel!
No matches next weekend. I'm going to have withdrawal symptoms, I think.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:19 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:15 PM (1m82a)
S&W announced the return of the 10 and 36 at SHOT Show 2025. TFB TV did a segment on both guns from SHOT.
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 08:19 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2025 08:22 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at February 23, 2025 08:22 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:24 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:25 PM (1m82a)
I know lil Z is short and apparently this guy Merz is tall but...it looks comical if you see it
Posted by: 18-1 at February 23, 2025 08:26 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:15 PM (1m82a)
They were already in the Classics line along with the Model 19, but this year they have done some tweaks in addition to getting rid of the internal lock -- the Model 10 for instance has the narrow "pencil" profile barrel, and beautiful walnut grips made by Tyler Gun Works among other enhancements.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at February 23, 2025 08:28 PM (Hdixl)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 08:28 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: javems at February 23, 2025 08:28 PM (8I4hW)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 23, 2025 08:29 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:30 PM (PhL0q)
Please tell Mrs. E that Ace is purring for her, she's in our prayers, and that the PT is necessary!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 08:31 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:36 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 23, 2025 08:37 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:30 PM (PhL0q)
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Not yet. It's on my to-do list though!
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:37 PM (iu4Pw)
Two comments. First, my dad was a flight instructor during WWII. His 'cadets' were Free French. He had great stories to tell, and I still have his notebooks. I still have some of his flight gear, and great photos. The tie? The initial training for these guys was in Stearman PT-17's
Second, how can any history re the M1 Carbine not refer to 'Carbine Williams'. A NC boy, btw.
See: http://tiny.cc/423b001
It's a good story.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2025 08:38 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:38 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:25 PM (1m82a)
According to the books I've read about 1911 development, the specs for the 1911 competition didn't require the magazine catch to be removed. Therefore, JMB didn't make it easy to remove. But after adoption, the Army wanted to make the catch more removable. Therefore, the Army ordered the change be made. That's a hit on the Army, not JMB.
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 08:39 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 23, 2025 08:31 PM (a3Q+t)
Mrs. E says mucho gracias.
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2025 08:39 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:40 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Weasel
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Recently finished 'Flight of the Intruder'. Good read.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2025 08:42 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:42 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 23, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)
Jealous!
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 08:44 PM (hzHvq)
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Agreed!
In Cannibal Queen, Coonts flies his Stearman all over the lower 48, seeing the country from 1,500 ft and giving anyone who wanted a ride a chance to go up. Great non-fiction.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:45 PM (iu4Pw)
Forgot to thank you Weasel for the work you put into this thread.
As a side note - my father in law’s two favorite rifles were the M1Garand and the M1 carbine. Of course they started him off with a BAR…
Posted by: Coelacanth at February 23, 2025 08:46 PM (+V4HG)
WashingtonNearsider sent me a gracious and info-packed email a while back about researching WWII vets. Am hoping to find out a lot more about my sister's late FIL, who flew B-26s in the ETO. Have his (contrary to rules) notebook with telegraphic notes on each mission. Hope to find much more in terms of unit activity, location, etc. I was even able to find on the interwebs what was almost certainly one of his targets, a stone bridge in a French town, which is still there.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:47 PM (1m82a)
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Thanks for reading and participating!
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:47 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: rhomboid
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I'll add to my comment at 144 that my dad was a good friend of Bevo Howard. I have letters that they exchanged:
https://spenceairbase.com/bevo.html
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2025 08:48 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 23, 2025 08:49 PM (9aVck)
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I have my dad's flight gear and his log book. It's a lot of fun to read that.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:49 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 08:49 PM (PhL0q)
He knows more about the Russia Hoax than even Kash.
Shit's about to get real in DC.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2025 08:50 PM (/RHNq)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:51 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2025 08:51 PM (DO41q)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 23, 2025 08:51 PM (l3YAf)
No shootin' today, but did have the pleasure of breaking bread with TRex and Grateful on Friday. Thanks again for letting us know you were in town!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at February 23, 2025 08:51 PM (v23vE)
Posted by: EdL at February 23, 2025 08:51 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:52 PM (iu4Pw)
(He joked, as if he understood .00001% of that video.)
Posted by: mindful webworker - misanthropically principled at February 23, 2025 08:53 PM (9pu/X)
I have my dad's flight gear and his log book. It's a lot of fun to read that.
Posted by: Weasel
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Some of the comments re his students were pretty sharp, viz:
"Vomited"
"Piss poor turns"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2025 08:54 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 23, 2025 07:45 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 08:54 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: Common Tater
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I'll exchange when a valve goes funky, otherwise just get them refilled.
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 08:54 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: PecanScandi at February 23, 2025 08:55 PM (mOTcl)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 23, 2025 08:55 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:56 PM (iu4Pw)
"This could mean coordinating nuclear weapons programs with the United Kingdom and France, he said, and potentially even the disbanding of the North Atlantic Treaty Alliance (NATO).
Merz even went so far as to imply that the United States under Trump was essentially on the same side as Russia when it comes to geopolitical affairs."
LINK : https://tinyurl.com/yb9hjvbe
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 08:57 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 23, 2025 07:52 PM (0XVad)
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Might not have the height needed. Round I use has a 257 inch drop @ 1,000 yards. Which I believe translates into 21' and change at the apex.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at February 23, 2025 08:00 PM (tT6L1)
Well, if I ever see they're shutting down the Monitor Merrimack Tunnel here, I'll let you know. You're gonna want a BIG dehumidifier, though, I'm guessing.
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 08:59 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at February 23, 2025 08:59 PM (c5NKU)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 23, 2025 09:00 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Bulg at February 23, 2025 09:00 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Common Tater
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I'll exchange when a valve goes funky, otherwise just get them refilled.
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 08:54 PM (rdVOm)
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I bought a new 20 lb. tank. I use it to refill 1 lb. Mr. Heater Fuel Kegs, which are US DOT approved.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:00 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2025 09:00 PM (DO41q)
He also pretty convincingly threw the G-1 model under the bus for any shaped bullet.
Again, I learned something on the GT!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:01 PM (PhL0q)
Thanks Ammoseek.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2025 09:02 PM (t/2Uw)
Again, I learned something on the GT!
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:01 PM (PhL0q)
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Definitely G7 for the bullets you're using!
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:03 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2025 09:00 PM (DO41q)
Do you still pay $11 for a refill? I'm paying around $18. Propane has gone up quite a bit.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:03 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:03 PM (YobFY)
Posted by: mrp
Excellent! Those little bottles are $$$$$!
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:03 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:04 PM (PhL0q)
He said about 2 in the morning all the alcoholics came straggling back to the boat, and he found someone to safe his duty weapon. “You dumb shunnofabish” etc.
Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2025 09:05 PM (DO41q)
Posted by: mrp
Excellent! Those little bottles are $$$$$!
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:03 PM (rdVOm)
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I recently bought a refill 1# refill kit with the Mr. H bottles, but haven't tried it yet. Easy to use?
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:05 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:03 PM (rdVOm)
They are. They're double-walled and solid. One thing, though - don't buy them from Amazon. I've had better success buying them from Home Depot.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:05 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at February 23, 2025 08:51 PM
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Thank YOU! It was a mini MoMe!
Posted by: TRex at February 23, 2025 09:06 PM (IQ6Gq)
I am looking at buying myself a toy
Posted by: Kindltot at February 23, 2025 09:06 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 09:07 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 23, 2025 08:38 PM (XeU6L)
Mike, would you consider donating those eventually to the US Air Force Academy special collection? They have a bunch of things like that, including letters home from the Lafayette Escadrille pilots. It sounds like that would be a great addition.
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 09:08 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: RI Red
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The custom made competition kind.... I have not looked too closely. One of the coaches built it and will sell it at cost so probably around $1800-$1900. Competition guns be expensive.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:08 PM (YobFY)
Posted by: Common Tater at February 23, 2025 09:09 PM (DO41q)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:10 PM (iu4Pw)
around $400. He said it’s basically a cheap Glock.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:10 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:05 PM (iu4Pw)
Very easy to use. Use gloves because a propane freeze burn isn't pleasant. On some of my 1 lb. tanks, after I screw in the bottle, I have to use my left hand to keep the air release valve open (the wire ring). It often won't stay open on its own. You just keep turning the ring until you hear the air escape. There are plenty of YT videos describing the process.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:10 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:11 PM (YobFY)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 09:11 PM (54iBb)
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Good to know, thank you! I watched a vid before buying and it seemed easy enough.
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:12 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 08:45 PM (iu4Pw)
Sounds like Richard Bach's "Stranger to the Ground". That is a great read, too. (And not nearly as philosophical as some of his other works.)
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 09:12 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:13 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 09:14 PM (54iBb)
I think I'm in love.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Add me to that fundraiser. Several kids shoot Staccato's in competition.... must be nice.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:14 PM (/iXAp)
Nurse, you can buy two when DOGE gives us our rebate.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:14 PM (PhL0q)
It's great getting to share triumphs and tribulations.
have a great week all.
Good Night.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 23, 2025 09:14 PM (t/2Uw)
Thank you!
I really appreciate all y'all being here tonight and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:15 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:15 PM (iu4Pw)
We don't know if Merz will be Chancellor yet. The coalition they'll have to put together will be....insane... since they're going to keep firewalling the AfD.
Roughly, very roughly, the CDU/CSU, or CxU is like the RINO GOPe. The coalition govt. will be like the RINOs getting together with the Democrats, with Greens and communists thrown in, all to exclude the "Nazis".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:16 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:12 PM (iu4Pw)
Another thing I did was order solid brass (with rubber gaskets) screw caps for the bottles, replacing the plastic OEM caps. The plastic caps only keep debris out of the fuel connection valve. Ordered them from Amazon and the brass caps are excellent.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:16 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2025 09:17 PM (b4o9z)
The Red Family knows that 7 pm on is Do Not Disturb time at Schloss Rot.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:17 PM (PhL0q)
One has a wonky valve, but is still full so can't exchange it. Planning on spending an evening on the deck, using grill as a heater, since flame won't get beyond barely-there-blue...then exchange when it's empty.
Filled 3 empties at end of last summer-- cost $53.
I've saved 1# bottles, just need to get a stand for refilling from a 20.
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:18 PM (rdVOm)
Wow, it’s hard for me to imagine something like that.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at February 23, 2025 09:19 PM (l3YAf)
This is, as Eugyppius calls it, Kenyapocalpse. The Kenya coalition (red, green, black). This is the worst of all possible worlds.
The CxU could get together with the AfD and have a near majority (could even go with a minority govt of those two). But no, AfD like Orangeman, bad.
So communist, green, pro-migrant stabbing balls to the wall Kenya coalition.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:20 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 09:20 PM (4Bi3b)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:20 PM (iu4Pw)
Roughly, very roughly, the CDU/CSU, or CxU is like the RINO GOPe. The coalition govt. will be like the RINOs getting together with the Democrats, with Greens and communists thrown in, all to exclude the "Nazis".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:16 PM (w6EFb)
Yeah. The final tallies are out (Germans use paper ballots. Sixteen states had their totals ready in two hours after the polls closed). CDU + SPD coalition is nuts. How will they agree to fix immigration, energy policy, defense spending, etc. when they disagreed on everything? Bottom Line : It's all about protecting the EU and the gravy train. AfD is for Germany and is ready, willing, and able to ditch the EU.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:22 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:22 PM (rdVOm)
Have you gotten to shoot a Staccato yet?
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:22 PM (PRg7w)
Filled 3 empties at end of last summer-- cost $53.
I've saved 1# bottles, just need to get a stand for refilling from a 20.
Posted by: JQ
Have you tried one of those self-serve exchange machines?
I have a tank with a bad valve too and was thinking of red-tagging and ditching it by exchanging with a (presumably) good tank and valve.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 23, 2025 09:22 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:24 PM (iu4Pw)
With greens and actual communists thrown in.
The FDP (yellow, the parties there are all color coded) didn't make the 5% threshold, so no seats for them. They were kinda-sort of free market liberals type. Think social liberal, but free market types.
They formed the so-called "traffic light coalition", red-yellow-green, which was a fucking disaster, and the FDP association with it is what killed the govt.
And now, they get an even more insane govt.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:24 PM (w6EFb)
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Only once. Was at a HomelyDepo. I usually go to the big grocery store in town, as their exchange price is better than the convenience stores around.
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:25 PM (rdVOm)
Maybe I should buy another 223 wylde upper and make it a triple.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at February 23, 2025 09:26 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Weasel
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Only when I retired, LOL. Got a case of .22 with special headstamp and label.
There's a 'company store' for employee purchases. Good prices but you can never be sure it didn't come from a wonky run. Of course they would never sell anything dangerous, but definitely wouldn't count on it for match!
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:28 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Bulg at February 23, 2025 09:29 PM (77rzZ)
Have you gotten to shoot a Staccato yet?
Posted by: lin-duh at February
Oh yes. Weasel buddy Geoff carries one. I ran it through the shoot and scoot last year.
Holy crap.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 09:29 PM (bOZwV)
And now, they get an even more insane govt.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:24 PM (w6EFb)
I spent all day watching the live election coverage on YT. After the polls closed and the exit polls were released, DW had a panel of all the party leaders seated at a table. DW reporter asked Merz some pretty tough questions about how he was going to form a coalition without including AfD. Merz visibly squirmed and rattled off nonsense. Weidel's eyes lit up. Great theater.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:30 PM (rj6Yv)
OK, I’ll buy one Staccato, 10 mags and $1700 of 9 mm ammo, then.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:30 PM (PhL0q)
Guns!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 23, 2025 09:30 PM (xcxpd)
I forgot about that. It is a beautiful gun. I didn't shoot it. Maybe this year if my shoulder is better finally or I'll just time my steroid shot just right.
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:32 PM (Av8mp)
Did some Dot Torture drills with my "church gun". It went ok. My church gun is a PSA Micro Dagger. Small, holds 15 rounds, has a red dot (the dot is too big) and is sufficiently accurate. Being small and light, you need to grip it a bit firmer than the PSA Dagger that's my usual EDC. But it will perform if you will.
Also did some double tap drills with said PSA Dagger. Went fine. Not my best day, far from my worst.
A good day at the range.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at February 23, 2025 09:33 PM (xcxpd)
Angela Merkel destroyed Germany.
The Traffic Light coalition was the most hated govt. in the history of post-war polling.
Her CxU party, RINO-like couldn't muster 30% against that. And now they're going to get an even worse govt than the Traffic Light.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:34 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:30 PM (PhL0q)
Yeah... it's tempting, but damn, those pistols are pricey.
When somebody builds a 2011 that is the equivalent of a good (not great) 1911, people will be beating a path to his door.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:35 PM (mWSu4)
It's not just the design, it shoots like a dream. Even the large 9mm that WBG Carrie's fit my hand and wasn't bulky at all in my hand.
The trigger was nicer than my Walther.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 09:36 PM (UfsdX)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:34 PM (w6EFb)
So they're going to get it gooder and harder.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 23, 2025 09:37 PM (rje2B)
In the past, I've looked at the downsides of a two-party system we have, and thought maybe 3 or more wouldn't be so bad.
And then I see this mess in Germany. Nope, give me a two-party system over that mess any day.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:37 PM (w6EFb)
Yeah... it's tempting, but damn, those pistols are pricey.
When somebody builds a 2011 that is the equivalent of a good (not great) 1911, people will be beating a path to his door.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:35 PM (mWSu4)
I bought a Langdon Tactical modified Beretta PX4 full size with the Gray Flat Trigger installed for a reasonable amount of money. Including the Ameriglo Tritium sights. Very nice.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:38 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:39 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:35 PM (mWSu4)
I've heard there is one called Apollo 2011 or something thta is good. Otherwise Bul Armory.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2025 09:41 PM (b4o9z)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
How about the Springfield Prodigy?
Posted by: Retief at February 23, 2025 09:42 PM (UL9Rw)
Posted by: TRex at February 23, 2025 09:42 PM (IQ6Gq)
I sent my H&K USP .40S&W to Gray guns for an accurizing and tune-up.
F*ck. It was expensive. But damn... they know what they are doing. It is a different gun now!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:42 PM (mWSu4)
Posted by: rhomboid at February 23, 2025 08:47 PM (1m82a)
The town or the bridge?
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2025 09:42 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Retief at February 23, 2025 09:42 PM (UL9Rw)
I have heard both good and bad things about it.
What do you think?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:43 PM (mWSu4)
We need to do the Lone Star Hideout experience at Staccato Ranch. $250/pp includes gun, ammo, and gear. 😁🤗
https://staccatoranch.com/ shooting-experiences/
Posted by: lin-duh at February 23, 2025 09:43 PM (VMWqr)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:43 PM (iu4Pw)
And then I see this mess in Germany. Nope, give me a two-party system over that mess any day.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:37 PM (w6EFb)
our history is that once a third party gets traction, it is to kick one of the other dominant two to the dustbin of history.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2025 09:44 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: whig's phone at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (ctrM5)
I guess when you destroy Europe and kill 50 million people while doing it, the fear that such behavior might be hereditary is almost pathological.
So the "Middle" will join with the Commies and the Greens, just to keep Hitler at bay for another generation.
Good news, I guess, as long as they start paying for their own national defense. And start building really cool tanks, again.
Posted by: Sharkman at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (/RHNq)
Jr. has the USP in .45, but doesn’t shoot it well.
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 23, 2025 09:41 PM (b4o9z)
They seem to be building nice pistols, but for $2,500 they better be good!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (mWSu4)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:34 PM (w6EFb)
But if they try that Frankenstein coalition, how long can it last? It will be completely unworkable, and the energy and economic crisis will only worsen. Collapsing economy plus chaotically split government, plus the US dropping our support - they could be heading into a complete collapse.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (73vBl)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:39 PM (PhL0q)
I bought the entire gun from Langdon Tactical - PX4, the Langdon trigger job, the Gray Flat trigger (four thumbs up), the Amerigo Tritium sights and + 1 17-round mag. You get 3 mags with the pistol, including a 30-round mag. Including shipping, it cost me around $1350. Langdon Tactical has a well-earned rep for their Beretta work.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:35 PM (mWSu4)
Tisas (Turkish) has a 2011-style in both 5 inch and 4.25 inch flavors at a very reasonable price. I haven't laid eyes on one, so that's all I can say about them.
Palmetto State Armory has them in stock.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 23, 2025 09:46 PM (rje2B)
Posted by: Retief at February 23, 2025 09:47 PM (UL9Rw)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (PhL0q)
Heavy and long trigger pull. Loose barrel lock-up.
The Gray Guns mods made the trigger an excellent and short reset, and the barrel lock-up was a thing of beauty. It went from a 3" group at 10 yards to a 1.5" group.
Next time we shoot together I will bring it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:48 PM (mWSu4)
And also, a unitary, independent executive, like we have. Parliamentary systems suck, all in all.
Conceivably, Germany could go with a minority govt., a plurality govt, but the president has to approve that. If I'm understanding that mess of a system correctly. I got interested in this, reading Eugyppius.
If they fail to put together a minority coalition (there are two phases of tries here), then the president can approve a plurality vote, whoever gets the greatest number of votes from the mess of parties can put together a govt if the president approves it.
If he doesn't, then the president would call a new election. IOW, you fucked up, now do it over and try to elect a working parliament.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:49 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2025 09:44 PM (FCbAQ)
Just you wait! We're coming back!
Posted by: The Whigs at February 23, 2025 09:50 PM (rje2B)
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:45 PM (rj6Yv)
And their H&K work! That is a serious gunsmith!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:50 PM (mWSu4)
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 23, 2025 09:50 PM (CzhWp)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 09:50 PM (PhL0q)
Fail to approve a *majority* coalition, I meant to say.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:51 PM (w6EFb)
When somebody builds a 2011 that is the equivalent of a good (not great) 1911, people will be beating a path to his door.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:35 PM (mWSu4
I had a ParaOrdnance doublestack .45. That was almost too heavy. My FNX45 is definitely too heavy. 8+1 is fine with me.
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2025 09:51 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 09:52 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at February 23, 2025 09:46 PM (rje2B)
I fired a couple of magazines-worth of 9mm through one of those Turkish race guns and was very impressed.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:52 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 09:53 PM (rdVOm)
I love Highway Patrol -- the shootout scenes are a hoot. Everybody, good guys and bad guys, just jerk their guns and start shooting willy-nilly from the hip.
And rumor was that Broderick Crawford was stumbling drunk half the time during filming.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:54 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2025 09:51 PM (LHPAg)
I'll bring my Walther PPQ .45ACP to TX in October (if I remember).
You will like it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:54 PM (mWSu4)
The real California Highway Patrol in the day of the show referred to Broderick as "Ol' 502", 502 being the old code for DUI.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:56 PM (w6EFb)
Any wisdom re using spray-on dry moly lube on the springs and followers of the mags to reduce friction? Stuff goes on wet like paint, dries to a slippery solid film. I have had good luck with in other applications.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 23, 2025 09:56 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:56 PM (iu4Pw)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:54 PM (w6EFb)
Wasn't he the voice actor playing Matt Dillon for the radio presentation of "Gunsmoke"?
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:56 PM (rj6Yv)
Nope, that was William Conrad, Cannon himself.
He didn't get the TV gig, although he wanted it. His voice was very good, but well, no so good for the visual Matt Dillon. :-)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at February 23, 2025 09:58 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Weasel at February 23, 2025 09:58 PM (iu4Pw)
Having grown up with Mel Brooks movies, I was in awe of how the opportunity to say something clever had been handed to me on a silver platter. And after that moment of freezing, not jumping at that easy layup, he kind of screwed his face up in horror and said "No not really."
I tried to think of any time where someone was so burdened by blameless guilt, and only answer I could think of was someone who was beaten without mercy by their parents.
Blameless guilt is a disgusting thing, and the younger generations see it as someone defeated, senseless and not any kind of moral stand. In the US we have raaaaacism that is the same.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 23, 2025 09:58 PM (lhenN)
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 09:59 PM (rj6Yv)
I'll bring my Walther PPQ .45ACP to TX in October (if I remember).
You will like it!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 23, 2025 09:54 PM (mWSu4
And you’ll get to shoot my .45 Bul, I’ll bring the 9mm Bul too. Sweet 1911s.
Posted by: Eromero at February 23, 2025 09:59 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: JQ at February 23, 2025 10:00 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at February 23, 2025 08:59 PM (c5NKU)
______________________
Patel just got himself a pit bull.
Posted by: Orson at February 23, 2025 10:00 PM (dIske)
Posted by: OneEyedJack at February 23, 2025 09:44 PM (FCbAQ)
Our problems isn't the two-party system. It's the system that has so entrenched the two current parties that no 3rd party can come along and kick one to the dustbin.
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 10:02 PM (hzHvq)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 23, 2025 09:58 PM (lhenN)
I've seen that myself. It's hard to accept when an apology or an excuse is completely unecessary.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 10:03 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 23, 2025 10:03 PM (lhenN)
Posted by: RI Red at February 23, 2025 10:04 PM (PhL0q)
Posted by: GWB at February 23, 2025 10:02 PM (hzHvq)
The 1992 election might be an acception in modern history. The 1860 election had four parties in the ring. In 1912 the Bull Moose Party took out Howard Taft and gave us Woodrow Wilson.
Posted by: mrp at February 23, 2025 10:05 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 23, 2025 10:06 PM (Q4Dc6)
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