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Vance: Biden Knew The Names and Locations of Violent Criminal Alien Murderers and Rapists and Chose to Leave Them in Place to Kill and Rape Americans

It's that stark, and it's completely true.


Vice President JD Vance claimed Wednesday that the Biden administration was aware of the names and addresses of violent criminals in the country illegally but took no action.

Vance, 40, described it as "one of the craziest things of the last week" to learn the previous administration knew the whereabouts of some of the criminal migrants recently taken into federal custody as part of President Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration.

"What is shocking to me is that many of these violent criminals -- we knew their addresses, we knew their names. We just needed to send somebody to go to their house and get them the hell out of the country," the vice president told Fox News host Sean Hannity Wednesday night.

Vance fumed that federal officials "haven't done anything until about eight days ago, when Donald Trump became the president of the United States" to apprehend known gang leaders and other violent offenders -- many of whom illegally came into the country under former President Joe Biden's watch.

"It really should shock the conscience of the American people," the vice president argued.

Vance noted that on the campaign trail, critics of Trump's pledge to deport criminal migrants often noted that one major hurdle would be that "we don't know where they are."

"It turns out we actually do know where a lot of them are. We just haven't had immigration enforcement. And that's what's changed," he said.

Vance touted Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration, and his flurry of executive actions, as signs that the new administration has accomplished "more in eight days than the entire Biden administration accomplished in four years."

"And of course, the things that we're accomplishing are actually good things," he argued.

Indeed. In just, what, ten days, Trump/Vance/Homan have rounded up five thousand five hundred dangerous criminal aliens.

Noted Chinese Spyf*cker Eric Swallowell is now pretending Oceana has always been in favor of deporting criminal aliens.

I mean, as long as Republicans agree to amnesty all the rest of the criminal aliens and give them voting cards.

Rep. Eric Swalwell

@RepSwalwell

I'm with Ritchie. Here's where we need to be: Dems want order at border, violent criminals GONE, and immediate legal immigration pathways to help workforce crisis in agriculture, hospitality, and restaurants. Do not defend deported gang leaders!

But you've literally defended not deporting them your entire career.

Make no mistake about why they did this: they wanted to pressure Republicans into giving them amnesty for all illegals by refusing to 1, protect the border at all, and 2, deport the known predator criminal aliens. They wanted to trade these things for amnesty -- they weren't willing to protect American citizens from thieves, murderers, rapists, and pedophiles unless they got something in exchange for it.

They literally extorted Americans by threatening them with murder by the criminal aliens they had imported just to pressure citizens into welcoming these millions of Undocumented Democrats.

And they're still refusing to deport criminal aliens unless they get some sweet amnesty in return:

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2

Sanctuary cities in the "FO" stage of "FA" of Trump DOJ's immigration enforcement operation.

I believe this is the 1st time an illegal--who reportedly re-entered the US FIVE TIMES then committed at least one other crime here--was arrested by the feds after a NY sheriff released him and refused to honor a federal warrant for his arrest.

Acting deputy AG Emil Bove indicates those officials who refused to enforce the federal warrant--which may include Tompkins County Sheriff Derek Osborne--are under investigation and could face federal charges themselves.

Outstanding. These lawless "sanctuary city" Democrats making their own communities unsafe need to be held liable for their actions.

Matt Finn
@MattFinnFNC

DEVELOPING: Two migrants who crossed the southern border in TX in summer 2023 are believed to be in custody in relation to the heinous murder of a 63-year-old Chicago man in his home this Sunday. A Top US official and multiple sources tell Fox. Piecing it together.



Posted by: Ace at 05:18 PM




Comments

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1 Very early.

Posted by: scampydog at January 30, 2025 05:18 PM (2bFN5)

2 I'll let the others know.

Posted by: scampydog at January 30, 2025 05:18 PM (2bFN5)

3 almost first of sorts again

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 30, 2025 05:19 PM (CWTWj)

4 Still, many think the Democrats don't want us dead.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 05:20 PM (Q4IgG)

5 Hail Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 05:21 PM (aD39U)

6 can't wait till mayor frey's car is stolen. even if it's not an illegal doing it

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 30, 2025 05:21 PM (CWTWj)

7 How many of those criminals did they bring in?

Even the ones who arrived with no 'help', does anyone believe all the illegal and unConstutional surveillance couldn't find them?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM (Vqx30)

8 >Still, many think the Democrats don't want us dead.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 05:20 PM (Q4IgG)

Sam Hyde was right

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM (cuN/U)

9 I got into an argument with Wifey about this. Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here.

Got mad when I pointed out that we already compromised abt 30 years ago with a blanket amnesty in return for enforcement.

Such short memories on her side of the family.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM (m0MIc)

10 It wasn't just Biden that knew and allowed. Governors, mayors, police chiefs, NGO's, and probably the media.

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM (abcTK)

11 Even 1,000 a day is pissing in the ocean.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM (E0r6f)

12 "What is shocking to me is that many of these violent criminals -- we knew their addresses, we knew their names. We just needed to send somebody to go to their house and get them the hell out of the country," the vice president told Fox News host Sean Hannity Wednesday night.

I mean, it has to be true, people actually did know. They are going and getting them, without some "door to door" search. They knew, and it was obvious that they knew.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:23 PM (2VST1)

13 Jacob Frey allowed BLM rioters to burn down a police station.

Posted by: mr tmz at January 30, 2025 05:23 PM (rJ48h)

14 I grew up in San Jose, CA. Hearing that radio show yesterday where the mayor (?) -- some state official -- was broadcasting where ICE was active and what vehicles they were driving was galling. The street names were ones I knew as chronic high-crime/gang territory. That some paid "public servant" thought he was doing the city a favor by giving assistance to illegal immigrant criminals is absolutely mind-boggling.

Posted by: red speck at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (0Id0S)

15 If there is political will, we could find, identify, catch, and deport 90%+ of illegals with very little effort (other than the logistical challenges of transporting so many people).

Hopefully for the first time in my life, there is now the political will. We shall see.

But, yes, of course the government knows where the overwhelming majority of illegals are. We live in a surveillance state. The illegals aren't making any attempt to hide. Their kids are enrolled in schools, they get welfare, the whole family goes to the doctor, etc. etc.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (uCjyK)

16 NY sheriff released him and refused to honor a federal warrant for his arrest.

**************************

That same sheriff will throw your ass in prison for 80 years if there's a typo on your concealed carry permit

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (HYKHz)

17 "Dems want order at border"

Imagine actually believing this, let alone saying it aloud.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (i7Q7S)

18 Noted Chinese Spyf*cker Eric Swallowell

To be fair, he's also attempting, almost single-handedly, to resurrect my performing art.

Posted by: Le Petomaine at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (a3Q+t)

19 I got into an argument with Wifey about this. Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here.

We should show compassion and let them stay. Of course, they don't get government money anymore, and they're not allowed to work as long as US unemployment is above, say, 0%, but let them stay and enjoy the rights of illegals the world over.

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (abcTK)

20
Here's what Really going with all those woke fake-defiant "mayors" & "governors."

They're all publicly defiant, but, privately, they're happy their Shit-holes are being cleaned up.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (zcs+5)

21 They wanted to trade these things for amnesty -- they weren't willing to protect American citizens from thieves, murderers, rapists, and pedophiles unless they got something in exchange for it.
===
Nice country you got there, be a shame if sumthin happened to it.

Posted by: Democratic Crime Family at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (nJfmk)

22 Time's Up.

Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (1b5Z6)

23 That collection of detritus in the Minneapolis video pretty much explains everything wrong with that area. And yeah, I count the fat/butch sign language gal as part of the problem. You appear in public for a living--mix in a salad, take a lap or two around the track, and buy some professional clothes!

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (azSra)

24 We can hold those who broke the law interfering with ICE arrests in the same cells at GITMO as the illegals, while they await their trials. They want a neighbor; they can have one in the next bunk.

Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (z+ik4)

25 Self deportation will be the solution… make it miserable for them to live here…. also, lean, heavily, on their home countries.

Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (PCK5/)

26 I like that Vance blames Biden directly even though the vegetable in chief was not really running anything except his choice of ice cream.

Biden is the face of the regime, so isolate him, freeze him ... attack. (paraphrase of the rule for radicals by Alinsky)

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (Cus5s)

27 >Rep. Eric Swalwell @RepSwalwell I'm with Ritchie. Here's where we need to be:

----

not because it's right
because it's politically expedient

Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (AOsQT)

28 >>> What is shocking to me is that many of these violent criminals -- we knew their addresses, we knew their names. We just needed to send somebody to go to their house and get them the hell out of the country," the vice president told Fox News host Sean Hannity Wednesday night.

Can John Walsh, Chris Hansen, and Dr. Phil team up to do an online or televised show where they get embedded with ICE and just film rounding these people up? "To catch America's Most Wanted."

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (gWBY1)

29 Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey announces the city will not cooperate with Trump's deportations
_______________

Arrest Frey.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (YqDXo)

30 Two migrants who crossed the southern border in TX in summer 2023 are believed to be in custody in relation to the heinous murder of a 63-year-old Chicago man in his home this Sunday.

According to Second City Cop, the 63-year-old had set up a Grindr date with the two of them.

Bad use of a dating app...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (uxCna)

31 Let the Finding Out begin.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (aD39U)

32 That sheriff needs to be raided by the FBI (pre-dawn with at least 2 MRAPs) indicted on 400 counts, and then bankrupted defending himself.

For starters.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (i7Q7S)

33 26 I like that Vance blames Biden directly even though the vegetable in chief was not really running anything except his choice of ice cream.

Biden is the face of the regime, so isolate him, freeze him ... attack. (paraphrase of the rule for radicals by Alinsky)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (Cus5s)

Biden also can't defend himself, so he's an even better target...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (exHjb)

34 Give me your murderers, your rapists
Your drug smugglers and those yearning to mow my lawn

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at January 30, 2025 05:26 PM (vaN1W)

35 Again, Biden really didn't have a say in these policies. This smacks of Barky and the Kalorama cartel.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 05:26 PM (g8Ew8)

36 GITMO is mostly empty.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:26 PM (E0r6f)

37 Also, I'm fucking tired of hearing the "give them a path to citizenship" bullshit.

There is ALREADY A PATH TO CITIZENSHIP, ASSHOLES!!"

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 05:26 PM (m0MIc)

38 Even 1,000 a day is pissing in the ocean.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM

In fairness, it beats simply commanding the tide to cease and retreat.

Posted by: zombie King Cnut at January 30, 2025 05:26 PM (a3Q+t)

39
There's No One more happy right now than the woke totalitarian dyke "governor" of Massachusetts, who has FILLED every single motel in MA with illegals, most of whom are violent, and All are living off the state.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:26 PM (zcs+5)

40 >>>I like that Vance blames Biden directly even though the vegetable in chief was not really running anything except his choice of ice cream.

Biden wasn't, and still isn't in control of his own sphincter.

Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 05:27 PM (z+ik4)

41 They raided P Diddy's house with about 50 FBI agents pouring out of military vehicles. They can do that for a tough talking, gun toting sheriff too.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 30, 2025 05:27 PM (i7Q7S)

42 This is exactly right. They dumped millions of illegals on us to force a crap deal. They (barely) lost that bet and now the worm has turned. We can keep throwing illegals out until they scream "Uncle!" and get a deal we want.

Posted by: spongeworthy at January 30, 2025 05:27 PM (CDWlY)

43 Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here.

Again? Seriously how many times do you do this?

sarcasm
This is why broads shouldn't vote!
/sarcasm

Look, empathy can be a fine thing but we have way too much of it these days. If you break into my house because I have such nice stuff and just camp in the den you don't get to demand you get to stay because you used to live in a shack. I don't care how sad your kids look. Get out of my house, I'll invite you through the front door if I want you in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (2VST1)

44 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (Zz0t1)

45 No noodin' bastages.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (Zz0t1)

46 Matt Finn
@MattFinnFNC
DEVELOPING: Two migrants who crossed the southern border in TX in summer 2023 are believed to be in custody in relation to the heinous murder of a 63-year-old Chicago man in his home this Sunday. A Top US official and multiple sources tell Fox. Piecing it together.

That's the problem with Republicans: they're so uptight about heinous murders.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (TdYBy)

47 Got mad when I pointed out that we already compromised abt 30 years ago with a blanket amnesty in return for enforcement.

The 1986 amnesty turned California from a red state into a deep blue state.

With far more illegals today, it would give the whole country the politics of California.

Worst decision Reagan ever made.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (uxCna)

48
So while that little shit "mayor" jacob talks shit about ICE, he's probably secretly helping ICE clean up his shitty city.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (zcs+5)

49 This is exactly right. They dumped millions of illegals on us to force a crap deal. They (barely) lost that bet and now the worm has turned. We can keep throwing illegals out until they scream "Uncle!" and get a deal we want.
Posted by: spongeworthy at January 30, 2025 05:27 PM (CDWlY)

---

I'm ornery.

Keep throwing them out AND get what we want.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (m0MIc)

50 Time to arrest a few government officials for not complying with ICE detainers. I would start with Brandon Johnson and Jacob Frey, but that's just me.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2025 05:29 PM (2UnvF)

51 If they deport enough of them maybe egg prices will fall.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:29 PM (E0r6f)

52 I'm thinking I may put together a house framing crew or two. I have a hunch there may be a shortage of that kind of labor...

Posted by: DanMan at January 30, 2025 05:29 PM (8uzBS)

53 The left Wingers I work with are moaning about Trump and saying "Insanity at its finest, terrible story about the plane crash" and they're upset that Trump pointed a finger at Biden and the Dei policies and "it's going to be a long 4 years and very unsettling times and our country is broken."

They really are living in an alternate universe.

They normally never talk about politics on the office instant messenger board but one woman is always eager to try to stir the pot and she immediately jumped in with comments and emojis. I'm afraid this one is going to try to keep it going every blessed day. What a pain in the ass

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2025 05:29 PM (Epeb0)

54 Rep. Eric Swalwell

@RepSwalwell

I'm with Ritchie. Here's where we need to be: Dems want order at border, violent criminals GONE, and immediate legal immigration pathways to help workforce crisis in agriculture, hospitality, and restaurants. Do not defend deported gang leaders!


Ace, take it easy on him. I mean, he was almost killed in a plane crash this morning!!! Have a heart, man.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (Zz0t1)

55 Without the FO, FAFO doesn't have any teeth, and FAFO don't play that way.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (ynpvh)

56 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)

57 But what about the chiillllldren!!!!!!!

Boo hoo 😭😭😿

Posted by: Democratic Crime Family at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (nJfmk)

58 Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann

25th Amendment. Today. I want a psychiatric professional to put Trump in a strait jacket before sunset

Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (NpAcC)

59 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me
Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)

---

Is it by chance the guy who worked Mandela's funeral...?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (m0MIc)

60 Brandon Johnson is walking on some very hot coals. The mostly black people living in South East Chicago have had it with him and have been very vocal to his face how pissed off there are with illegals getting resources/$$$ that they are not and the crime that has sky rocketed as a result which was already bad. He better have some very good security around him and avoid a lot of areas.

Posted by: Cheri at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (oiNtH)

61 >> 19 I got into an argument with Wifey about this. Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here

Yes, let's all the rapists, pedos, hidden terror cells, gangs, and drug peddlers stay.

A friend of mine's kid married a dreamer, and she turned super pro illegal immigration. The girl is by all accounts a sweet kid, and they are a happy couple. But it doesn't change the fact thar what her parents did was wrong. And that for every illegal or dreamer that are net positives, we can't afford them, and we can't always sift the good from the evil until it's too late.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (gWBY1)

62 No noodin' bastages.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
---------
I nooded. I know this grapevine.

Posted by: scampydog at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (2bFN5)

63
Two Things from last thread:

1. Fag Hags are the worst of the pathetic "I Can Fix Him" women.

2. Dogs sure are pals, eh? They like to be at your side constantly and will agree with everything you say.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (zcs+5)

64 Crap I’ve been posting my ass off in the other thread.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (IOGah)

65 What's a nonheinous murder?
"Oh I'm so sorry to pester you, dear chap, would you might sipping on some hemlock tea? and I made scones."

Posted by: gKWVE at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (gKWVE)

66 56 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me
Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)

Honestly, you could save TONS of money by just turning the teleprompter around for the deaf...or putting a camera on it...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (exHjb)

67 Couldn't the sign language guy just repeat everything a little louder?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (E0r6f)

68 > Even 1,000 a day is pissing in the ocean.

Unfortunately, yes. Let's say Biden let in ten million illegals, a conservative estimate. If we deport 1,000 per day, that's over 27 years to get rid of the ones Biden let in.

It's still a hell of a lot better than what we had before.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (V1QHJ)

69 The speech had been proceeding for perhaps
twenty minutes when a messenger hurried on to the platform and a scrap of paper was slipped into the speaker's hand. He unrolled and read it without
pausing in his speech. Nothing altered in his voice or manner, or in the content of what he was saying, but suddenly the names were different. Without words said, a wave of understanding rippled through the crowd.
Oceania was at war with Eastasia! The next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners and posters with which the square was decorated were all wrong! Quite half of them had the wrong faces on them. It was sabotage! The agents of Goldstein had been at work! There was a riotous interlude while posters were ripped from the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot.

Posted by: George O. at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (D0HYP)

70 "I got into an argument with Wifey about this. Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here."

Many will remain, even if they could remove five million of the worst. But e-verify and cutting off all the free shit would plausibly get another ten million to self deport.

And if another ten million are actually working (construction, nannies, landscaping, or other) ... MAYBE if they behave, they get some sort of temporary Visa?

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (Cus5s)

71 Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann

25th Amendment. Today. I want a psychiatric professional to put Trump in a strait jacket before sunset
Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (NpAcC)


You first, you insane raving lunatic.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (Zz0t1)

72 Matt Finn
@MattFinnFNC
DEVELOPING: Two migrants who crossed the southern border in TX in summer 2023 are believed to be in custody in relation to the heinous murder of a 63-year-old Chicago man in his home this Sunday. A Top US official and multiple sources tell Fox. Piecing it together.
=========
That's the problem with Republicans: they're so uptight about heinous murders.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:28 PM (TdYBy)

Those migrants were just helping to shore up social security. We should be thanking them. -- Democrats

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (ExV1e)

73 Vance: Biden Knew The Names and Locations of Violent Criminal Alien Murderers and Rapists and Chose to Leave Them in Place to Kill and Rape Americans

They were just killing and raping the people Americans wouldn't. Really it is an act of love

Posted by: Jeb Bush at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (t0Rmr)

74 I nooded. I know this grapevine.

*has traumatic flashbacks to dancing and singing raisins*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (2VST1)

75 66 56 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me
Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)

Honestly, you could save TONS of money by just turning the teleprompter around for the deaf...or putting a camera on it...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (exHjb)

Oh wait, I'm thinking of Dem press conferences...that wouldn't work for Trump ones...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 05:33 PM (exHjb)

76 Those migrants were just helping to shore up social security. We should be thanking them. -- Democrats

I know right?

Posted by: Tony Fauci at January 30, 2025 05:33 PM (t0Rmr)

77 This is exactly right. They dumped millions of illegals on us to force a crap deal.

Nah. I don't think that's right at all.

They talk about ending whiteness all the time, and they mean it.

The crime? They don't give a fuck. They think whites deserve to be raped and murdered.

It's just like England's muslim gangrape as public policy.

This isn't about leverage or deals. They hate you and want to subjugate and replace you.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:33 PM (TdYBy)

78 @KeithOlbermann

25th Amendment. Today. I want a psychiatric professional to put Trump in a strait jacket before sunset
===
Um, ya. Maybe you shouldn't be the guy questioning the sanity of others. M'kay

Posted by: Pro. Jection at January 30, 2025 05:33 PM (nJfmk)

79 We need to start labeling them SCOFFLAW CITIES.

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (Epeb0)

80 75 66 56 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me
Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)
____________________________

JAZZ HANDS!!!!

Posted by: Orson at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (dIske)

81 ---------
I nooded. I know this grapevine.
Posted by: scampydog at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (2bFN5)


So you did......


355 Nood.
Posted by: scampydog at January 30, 2025 05:19 PM (2bFN5)


Mea culpa.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (Zz0t1)

82 They talk about ending whiteness all the time, and they mean it

That's why it is absolutely combined with a drive to stop white people from having kids and getting married. They have worked out that white people won't go along with the left wing plan, and so they have to go.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (2VST1)

83 70 "I got into an argument with Wifey about this. Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here."

Many will remain, even if they could remove five million of the worst. But e-verify and cutting off all the free shit would plausibly get another ten million to self deport.

And if another ten million are actually working (construction, nannies, landscaping, or other) ... MAYBE if they behave, they get some sort of temporary Visa?
Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (Cus5s)

1986 compromise is what got us here. NO compromise. If they live in the shadows, so be it, but they've resigned themselves to it by being a criminal and never turning themselves in for punishment...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (exHjb)

84 Every illegal goes home.

And every rapefugee.

And every bureaucrat that signed off any form of government assistance for them should get a long prison sentence.

There should be no compromise.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (t0Rmr)

85 Uh, what workforce crises in agriculture, hospitality, and restaurants?

If you paid a reasonable wage for those jobs, Americans would be doing them...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (QAkQ3)

86 Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann

25th Amendment. Today. I want a psychiatric professional to put Trump in a strait jacket before sunset
Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (NpAcC)

Who is Keith even talking to anymore?

It's like watching a guy yell at his lunch.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (TdYBy)

87 Crap I’ve been posting my ass off in the other thread.

so maybe somebody caught my willow

Posted by: DanMan at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (8uzBS)

88 Swalwell is a liar.

They've had 4 years in control of the border and it's the most porous it's been in HISTORY.

Please, f*ck the wrong spy and pay dearly for it.......soon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (Zz0t1)

89 Every illegal who self deports will be spared the Woodchipper of Antioch.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (E0r6f)

90 Time to arrest a few government officials for not complying with ICE detainers. I would start with Brandon Johnson and Jacob Frey, but that's just me.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2025 05:29 PM (2UnvF)

At the risk of being called an "explainer"... while they should be arrested and prosecuted, they (likely) won't be convicted because the prosecutions would take place in areas which had elected them. So, in addition to arrest and prosecution, all federal funds should be halted to all localities which interfere - by action or inaction - with federal immigration efforts.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (ExV1e)

91
It's like watching a guy yell at his lunch.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (TdYBy)


You work at my datacenter?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (Zz0t1)

92 If you paid a reasonable wage for those jobs, Americans would be doing them...

AND...if you didn't make welfare/SSDI so easy to get...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (t0Rmr)

93 59 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me
Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)

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Is it by chance the guy who worked Mandela's funeral...?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 05:31 PM (m0MIc)

I like how she signs...with style! NSFW
https://youtu.be/__3q4YuZsko

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (ynpvh)

94 >>> If you break into my house because I have such nice stuff and just camp in the den you don't get to demand you get to stay because you used to live in a shack. I don't care how sad your kids look. Get out of my house, I'll invite you through the front door if I want you in.

I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (gWBY1)

95 @22/ballistic: "Time's Up."

Years ago Kent "Dullhawk" McManigal made a wonderful "Time's Up" flag (the spiritual successor to the Gadsden flag):

https://tinyurl.com/46ehfmw5

You can still buy them.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (O7YUW)

96 85 Uh, what workforce crises in agriculture, hospitality, and restaurants?

If you paid a reasonable wage for those jobs, Americans would be doing them...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (QAkQ3)

OR willing hired teenagers again...aka, the unhireable class b/c no one wants to put up with the state and local rules...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (exHjb)

97 >>>Who is Keith even talking to anymore?
It's like watching a guy yell at his lunch.

he's always Issuing Statements and Pronouncements.

Posted by: ace at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (KRtlO)

98 80 75 66 56 Press conferences with the sign language person just seem like parody to me
Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 05:30 PM (KQk9m)
____________________________

JAZZ HANDS!!!!
Posted by: Orson at January 30, 2025 05:34 PM (dIske)

Pretty sure that if a deaf person can read sign language on TV, they can read subtitles on TV.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (Jb8+d)

99
Who is Keith even talking to anymore?

It's like watching a guy yell at his lunch.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (TdYBy)


https://is.gd/uiCsOC

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:37 PM (Zz0t1)

100 Brandon Johnson is walking on some very hot coals. The mostly black people living in South East Chicago have had it with him and have been very vocal to his face how pissed off there are with illegals getting resources/$$$ that they are not and the crime that has sky rocketed as a result which was already bad. He better have some very good security around him and avoid a lot of areas.
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That's fun to believe, but you know damn well they'll just turn around and vote another non-white non-competent person to replace him.

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 05:37 PM (azSra)

101 At the risk of being called an "explainer"... while they should be arrested and prosecuted, they (likely) won't be convicted because the prosecutions would take place in areas which had elected them

You can get creative. Suppose the governor of a blue shitty is opposing ICE...find one of the illegals he was protecting that committed a felony out in a red suburb/county. Arrest him there for opposing the retainer AND as an accessory to the crime the illegal committed.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 05:37 PM (t0Rmr)

102 THE TOP STORY OF THE NIGHT!!!!

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:37 PM (E0r6f)

103 *has traumatic flashbacks to dancing and singing raisins*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM

Don't judge who I love. I admit raisin/sheep relationships aren't mainstream, but I was worried she might leave me.

I heard it through the grapevine,
how much longer would ewe be mine?

Posted by: The Raisin at January 30, 2025 05:37 PM (a3Q+t)

104 I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 05:36 PM (gWBY1)

Plus I'm willing to be she owes you a new couch. Ick.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2025 05:38 PM (Jb8+d)

105 Acting deputy AG Emil Bove indicates those officials who refused to enforce the federal warrant--which may include Tompkins County Sheriff Derek Osborne--are under investigation and could face federal charges themselves.

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Biden is at the top of that list, and he didn't pardon himself.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 30, 2025 05:38 PM (G0Uu2)

106 Bet Mayor Frey lives in a gated community and has armed security.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2025 05:38 PM (MQJVv)

107 Has anyone else seen this new quip by the left:

"If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too."

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 05:38 PM (gWBY1)

108 Keith Olbermann
@KeithOlbermann

25th Amendment. Today. I want a psychiatric professional to put Trump in a strait jacket before sunset


I want Keith's head used a bovine insemination device. Sans snorkel.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 30, 2025 05:38 PM (vaN1W)

109 You first, you insane raving lunatic.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:32 PM (Zz0t1)
*****
Trump broke him. There is no way he lasts the next 4 years.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 05:39 PM (NpAcC)

110 Couldn't the sign language guy just repeat everything a little louder?
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Sound's reasonable.

Posted by: Garrett Morris at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (azSra)

111 @107/LizLem: {{ Has anyone else seen this new quip by the left:

"If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too." }}

We can also say: "I don't care, Margaret."

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (O7YUW)

112 *****
Trump broke him. There is no way he lasts the next 4 years.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 05:39 PM (NpAcC)


#BarrelMouthTrigger

I'd be fine with it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (Zz0t1)

113 Who is Keith even talking to anymore?

It's like watching a guy yell at his lunch.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:35 PM (TdYBy)

"Old man yells at the sky, news at 11."

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (Jb8+d)

114 >>> Plus I'm willing to be she owes you a new couch. Ick. Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2025 05:38 PM (Jb8+d)

No no, it's her couch now. And you owe her a new one because of all your house privilege and white privilege!

Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (gWBY1)

115
You have 3 Types of "I Can Fix Him" idiot women, each more pathetic than the other:

The 1st type are your average run of the mill Bad Decision-Makers/Bad Judges of Character.

The 2nd type are your "jail brides," the women who pretend to "fall in love" with convicted reprobates because this is as close they can get to their fulfilling their dream of landing a "bad boy."

Finally, the 3rd type is the worst, most pathetic sample: the women who get involved with homos. They secretly hate gays but pretend to support his "lifestyle," because they believe "I Can Fix Him."

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (zcs+5)

116 Hey Oberdouche 2016 called and said let it go.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (IOGah)

117 What IS pinhead's job?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (63Dwl)

118
"If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too."


Renaming a body of water is not catering to the mental insanity of a deranged lunatic.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (Zz0t1)

119 We can also say: "I don't care, Margaret."
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (O7YUW)

And really, Margaret, none of us do.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (Jb8+d)

120 Obviously this is just for marketing and would *never* be provided to any government, right???
'Privacy Nightmare on Wheels': Every Car Brand Reviewed By Mozilla - Including Ford, Volkswagen and Toyota - Flunks Privacy Test
By Mozilla | Sept. 6, 2023
https://shorturl.at/pbU9X

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (Vqx30)

121 Both, Kash and Tulsi performed extremely well. Whoever prepped them deserves credit.

Posted by: runner at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (g47mK)

122 Didn't Kweef leave the twatters?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (Zz0t1)

123 118
"If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too."


Renaming a body of water is not catering to the mental insanity of a deranged lunatic.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:40 PM (Zz0t1)

We're not renaming it the Sahara Desert...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (ynpvh)

124 The Post Millennial
@TPostMillennial
·
Follow
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey announces the city will not cooperate with Trump's deportations:

"I want to speak directly to people who are undocumented … you're not an alien; in our city, you're a neighbor."
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See you in Gitmo, fool.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (RIvkX)

125 At the risk of being called an "explainer"... while they should be arrested and prosecuted, they (likely) won't be convicted because the prosecutions would take place in areas which had elected them.

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I don't know much about Minneapolis, Johnson is not popular in Chicago.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (2UnvF)

126 If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too." }}

That body of water ain’t identifying as a desert.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:42 PM (IOGah)

127 Is Keith still making YouTube videos from his mom's apartment?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:42 PM (E0r6f)

128 126 If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too." }}

That body of water ain’t identifying as a desert.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:42 PM (IOGah)

::: fist bump ::: see my #118

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:42 PM (ynpvh)

129 The Trump administration is going to face horrors in every agency left there by the Biden administration. The last post by Ace included evidence of Buttgiggles ideological incompetence . There will be hundreds of these land mines left over. F U Brandon and all of your minions

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (6v8aM)

130 Um...#123, not #118

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (ynpvh)

131 Concerning Margaret, I raised my kid already. I am sick and tired of having to put up with all of these adult children and their emotional tirades. Grow the hell up already. Life ain't fair, and you are not the center of the universe. I will call you what you look like, and you can get over it. I am not responsible for your feels just like you apparently aren't responsible for mine. Your rights end at the tip of your nose. So now just fuck right off to fuckoff mountain and leave me in peace.

Posted by: tcn in AK at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (Jb8+d)

132 We're not renaming it the Sahara Desert...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (ynpvh)

Finally get to say it.

Dammit Jim!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (IOGah)

133 I once saw Marlee Matlin in "Children of a Lesser God" on stage. The highlight was her arguing with a hearing girl and calling her (sign language) a "C*nt."

Posted by: goatexchange at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (hyS0X)

134
::: fist bump ::: see my #118
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:42 PM (ynpvh)


Your #123, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (Zz0t1)

135 Since Biden wasn't really President or in charge of anything for his term, who exactly has been importing, escorting, and protecting this illegal army of agents of chaos into every avenue of America?

This is more than simply expediting demographic change to alter voting patterns since the electorate, as it awakens, learns to oppose and reject progressive platforms. How many executive level, Democrat and/or Deep State cells have been furiously inciting revolution and insurrection within the Federal government? Joseph McCarthy would be even more shocked at the Trojan Horses stampeding America today.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (aXxgO)

136 I mean I get declarative sentences, being emphatic. We do that in comments here all the time (whether it's effective or not). But Keith acts like he's issuing orders. Or sending out a firm-wide memo. To whom? DMT elves? It's weird, and off-putting irrespective of the politics.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (TdYBy)

137 "The crime? They don't give a fuck. They think whites deserve to be raped and murdered.
It's just like England's muslim gangrape as public policy."

Except the far left whites are golden, just the dirty irredeemable deplorables should be raped/robbed/killed. We are the "infidels" to them.

They are a violent cult, but many hide behind some "children of the world" bullshit from the 60's. Or by now, they have moved on to "white Christians must DIE, to save the planet".

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 05:44 PM (Cus5s)

138
That's fun to believe, but you know damn well they'll just turn around and vote another non-white non-competent person to replace him.
Posted by: Crusader

Hell, they'll probably vote for Johnson again.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 05:44 PM (63Dwl)

139 134
::: fist bump ::: see my #118
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:42 PM (ynpvh)


Your #123, sir.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 30, 2025 05:43 PM (Zz0t1)

Yeah, I caught that. Won't tell you the number tho...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 05:44 PM (ynpvh)

140 Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey announces the city will not cooperate with Trump's deportations:

"I want to speak directly to people who are undocumented, you're not an alien; in our city, you're a neighbor
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Yep they may be in neighboring cells to yours, mayor.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, le scarpe at January 30, 2025 05:44 PM (KjLnc)

141 These people think they don't have to suffer any consequences for letting violent criminals run free.

I suspect they may find out that's not quite true if they're hauled off and charged under federal statutes.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 05:45 PM (tT6L1)

142 @94

>> I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.


The idea that the 14th amendment applies to illegal aliens is preposterous and that somehow illegals can create their own jurisdiction sua sponte that is inviolate is similarly preposterous.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 05:45 PM (NlntZ)

143 Illegals should be executed. Not joking. They are a hostile foreign invasion force not wearing enemy uniforms. What do we usually do to people like that? I don’t really want to kill tens of millions of people. I want them to get the fuck out of my country. I’m afraid they won’t leave unless they face execution.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 30, 2025 05:45 PM (4Y/Z1)

144 Wait. This Frey dude is still mayor of Minneapolis. What does it take for these leftists to vote out their crap leftist mayors???

Posted by: chique at January 30, 2025 05:46 PM (0efB3)

145 Yes; that's why ICE and other LEOs knew exactly where they were to pick them up as soon as the new PDT ROE came down.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 05:46 PM (5LoD7)

146
This is *not* a parody. This is how Things really were after WWII in 1946!

Aeronca - The Plane You'll Want to Fly

A plane so cheap and so easy to fly even a broad can do it!

https://is.gd/zLRlI8

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:47 PM (zcs+5)

147 What a country! Some intern got paid to make a giant poster featuring onesies for Bernie to do his thing. Only in America!

Posted by: Yakov Smirnov at January 30, 2025 05:47 PM (PiwSw)

148 You can change your name.

You can't change your pronouns. The whole point of pronouns are that they allow you to refer to someone without knowing anything except the person's sex...which is usually obvious.

Neo-pronouns are, at best, just another name. And there is no need for that.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 05:47 PM (t0Rmr)

149 I don't know much about Minneapolis, Johnson is not popular in Chicago.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2025 05:41 PM (2UnvF)

You only need to be 9% popular as long as it's the right 9%.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 05:47 PM (ExV1e)

150 Pr0n star Emily Willis suffered cardiac arrest during an addiction treatment program. She suffered brain damage and is now permanently disabled. Ketamine was her drug of choice. She reportedly used 6+ grams per day.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 05:48 PM (V1QHJ)

151 Ever notice that sign interpreters and whacky wavey arms inflatable tube man are never seen together?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at January 30, 2025 05:48 PM (wBaIH)

152 That's fun to believe, but you know damn well they'll just turn around and vote another non-white non-competent person to replace him.
Posted by: Crusader

Hell, they'll probably vote for Johnson again.
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That's the craziest aspect of city and state governments these days--nobody actually campaigns on the idea of *efficiently running* a government, but instead on a bunch of bullshit that has ZERO bearing on actually performing a JOB well. Once elected, you end up with city councils across the country passing motions to "Support The People of Palestine".....instead of focusing on crime, budgets, fixing the streets, or anything else that they actually should have been elected to address.

Its just an endless cycle of nothing-ness.

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 05:48 PM (azSra)

153 I see Keith Olbermann is still fuming from his bathtub.

None of this surprises me. The catch and release, which is not just for fish anymore. The massive herds of aliens from all over the world just walking in. When I read that Arizona ranchers were trying to get anyone's attention at the border problem in 1999, a lot was ignored. To find islamic prayer rugs with the garbage...welp, diversity litter bugs have arrived. To add to those more current from the ME, we have them from chy na and Africa. All were welcomed. All are here.

It is very simple, both with this issue and in DEI hiring: the Dims do not care if people die. They don't. I pray every day for the health and safety of President Trump, VP Vance, their families and his cabinet. It is now that we take back our country, and it is not going to be easy due to the mess the Dims had in place. Four long years without anyone in charge is playing out today in real time. The media can no longer hide behind their smokescreen.

Off topic, but Mayor Frey's sign language pronoun looks like a shoe-in for an air traffic controller. I am feeling a bit evil right now...no offense to her or dwarves.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (gi+MR)

154 We’re now living in the post sternly-worded era.

Posted by: 13times at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (zFlqs)

155 Two migrants who crossed the southern border in TX in summer 2023 are believed to be in custody in relation to the heinous murder of a 63-year-old Chicago man in his home this Sunday.

According to Second City Cop, the 63-year-old had set up a Grindr date with the two of them.

Bad use of a dating app...
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Talk about "f around and find out"...

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (hB7mE)

156 "If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too."

... talk about a nonsequitur. They need to try harder. Do better, lefties. You used to be good at this stuff.

The idea that the 14th amendment applies to illegal aliens is preposterous and that somehow illegals can create their own jurisdiction sua sponte that is inviolate is similarly preposterous.

I think we're going to see the Supreme Court rule about that interpretation before summer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (2VST1)

157 >> I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.

I used the example of my Tennis club a lot in my discussions. If someone was to be able to bypass the guardhouse and climb over the fence and use the facilities for a few days before it was noticed doesn’t mean you have to let him stay because the local police won’t arrest him.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (IOGah)

158 126 If we can call a body of water a new name, we can call all trans people by their names and pronouns too." }}

That body of water ain’t identifying as a desert.

the ocean is a desert with its life underground
and the perfect disguise above

Posted by: anachronda at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (sGtp+)

159 The Five just had a segment on Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt. The lead in song was Wrecking Ball, which I thought was perfect.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (NpAcC)

160 150.Sorry to hear about Miss Willis. Always seemed so happy in those videos.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (wBaIH)

161
"the goyls taxi down to the end of the field!"

Those Aeroncas were fabric-covered, in case you didn't know. Yeah, no aluminum sheet metal, there.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (zcs+5)

162 Rep. Eric Swalwell

@RepSwalwell

I'm with Ritchie. Here's where we need to be: Dems want order at border, violent criminals GONE, and immediate legal immigration pathways to help workforce crisis in agriculture, hospitality, and restaurants. Do not defend deported gang leaders!
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In only 10 days, PDT shifted the Find and Immediately Deport Criminal Illegal Aliens Overton Window by about 5 billion miles.

Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (aBgBM)

163 Acting deputy AG Emil Bove indicates those officials who refused to enforce the federal warrant--which may include Tompkins County Sheriff Derek Osborne--are under investigation and could face federal charges themselves.


They should. They took an oath. They should honor that oath or get the fuck out.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (+RnoC)

164 104 I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.
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Squatters rights!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (5LoD7)

165 That's fun to believe, but you know damn well they'll just turn around and vote another non-white non-competent person to replace him.
Posted by: Crusader

Hell, they'll probably vote for Johnson again.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 05:44 PM (63Dwl)

The last time we replaced an incompetent black mayor for a different incompetent black mayor things got worse. We cannot risk that again. Re-elect Mayor Johnson! -- the people of Chicago

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 05:50 PM (ExV1e)

166 I like how she signs...with style! NSFW

There's a reason it's called interpreting and not translating. A big part of the job is trying to convey the emotions and connotations of the speaker.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 05:52 PM (/y8xj)

167 talk about a nonsequitur. They need to try harder. Do better, lefties. You used to be good at this stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (2VST1)

You’re too kind. They’ve never been good at it IMO.

They were born without the gene that allows one to make logical comparisons or proper analogies.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:52 PM (IOGah)

168 The wife is now transcribing WW2 submarine war patrol reports. She's hooked.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 05:52 PM (ExV1e)

169 I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.

The Junta was also allowing squatters to just seize houses and have the owners arrested so unfortunately in our Biden led dystopia that was how the world worked

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 05:52 PM (t0Rmr)

170
"That's the way to travel. The goyls will arrive just as fresh and rested as when they left this morning!"

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:53 PM (zcs+5)

171 They were born without the gene that allows one to make logical comparisons or proper analogies.

Yeah but they used to have better slogans. They used to be good at making up quips that became part of pop culture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:53 PM (2VST1)

172 Pr0n star Emily Willis suffered cardiac arrest during an addiction treatment program. She suffered brain damage and is now permanently disabled. Ketamine was her drug of choice. She reportedly used 6+ grams per day.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 05:48 PM (V1QHJ)
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K has become THE drug of choice for the under-30 party set. It’s got a euphoric soothing high that’s all the rage now. Unfortunately, it’s a dangerous drug made even more dangerous because it’s often secretly mixed with other drugs (like fentanyl). 6 grams a day would be about $1000 a day. That amount would kill a moose.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 30, 2025 05:53 PM (4Y/Z1)

173 If you can go to a bank and turn a dollar into four quarters, you can cut off a teenage girls' tits and put her on testosterone. That's just facts and logic!

-- The Left, which cannot meme

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 05:53 PM (TdYBy)

174 Yeah but they used to have better slogans. They used to be good at making up quips that became part of pop culture.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:53 PM (2VST1)

I believe you . I just can’t think of one.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:54 PM (IOGah)

175 Breaking911 @Breaking911 22m
TRUMP: "Birthright citizenship...was meant for the children of slaves. This was not meant for the whole world to come in & pile into the United States."

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 05:54 PM (5LoD7)

176 >>If you can go to a bank and turn a dollar into four quarters


'Here at the First National Bank of Change, we don't assume you just want Four Quarters. Perhaps you want Two Quarters, Three Dimes and Four Nickles...'

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2025 05:55 PM (xk5j8)

177 Of course they Bribe'em administration couldn't do anything about the criminals because would be a tacit admission of their failure.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 30, 2025 05:55 PM (FHoaH)

178 "And they're still refusing to deport criminal aliens unless they get some sweet amnesty in return..."

Amnesty is always on the table; reform never is. That was always the deal going all the way back to Reagan including Reagan. Reform is the unreachable carrot used to string the country along that led to endless failure theater, and no amount of amnesty was ever going to be enough to reach the point of "this far and no farther".

MAGA movement has been the ONLY tangible force to push honest, citizen-first action. The DNC never wanted reform. The GOPe never wanted reform. The Quasi-GOP with new, Trump/MAGA legislators actually do want reform and they're in sufficient numbers - finally - to at least get something. And all it took was allowing millions of foreign nationals to invade, plunder, and steal from enough people in enough protective bubbles to get a transformation.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 30, 2025 05:55 PM (aXxgO)

179 Pr0n star Emily Willis suffered cardiac arrest during an addiction treatment program

A porn star? Miserable and using drugs? Unpossible! Seems like every few months go by and yet another is dead from suicide, drug overdose etc.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:55 PM (2VST1)

180 Colorado Republicans Warn New Gun Control Legislation Would Ban 'Majority of Guns' in the State
https://shorturl.at/Ao8ey
Gateway Pundit

It's a feature, not a bug, to the commies. I'm starting to think CO needs to be #2 after CA on the reversion to territory list.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 05:55 PM (Vqx30)

181 > Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey

Wait: that human shitstain is STILL mayor? After the performance he put on during the George Floyd manufactured riots?

He and Karen "Large Mouth" Bass should get a room.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 05:56 PM (W5ArC)

182 I mean I get declarative sentences, being emphatic. We do that in comments here all the time (whether it's effective or not). But Keith acts like he's issuing orders. Or sending out a firm-wide memo. To whom? DMT elves?

People who, for whatever reason, have in the past gotten used to other people caring what they say can not understand that the "authority" they had was borrowed for purposes of the position and not theirs by right.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 05:57 PM (/y8xj)

183 If you can go to a bank and turn a dollar into four quarters, you can cut off a teenage girls' tits and put her on testosterone. That's just facts and logic!

-- The Left, which cannot meme
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But they can virtue-signal and do sign language with great zeal.

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 05:57 PM (azSra)

184 67 Couldn't the sign language guy just repeat everything a little louder?

is this about me?

Posted by: garrett morris at January 30, 2025 05:57 PM (sGtp+)

185 If it’s not a porn star from the 70’s or 80’s I have no clue who they are.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 05:57 PM (IOGah)

186 >>> We’re now living in the post sternly-worded era.
Posted by: 13times at January 30, 2025 05:49 PM (zFlqs)

Shucks. *kicks dirt*

Posted by: Chuck Grassley at January 30, 2025 05:58 PM (JfxgE)

187 I just tried to watch that sign-language video again--I just can't make it through. She makes it to farsical to take seriously, even it were PDT himself that were doing the talking.

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 05:58 PM (azSra)

188 TRUMP: "Birthright citizenship...was meant for the children of slaves. This was not meant for the whole world to come in & pile into the United States."

He is right, too. The 14th is part of a packet of amendments that were put through in response to slaves being set free. They were trying to work out how to legally deal with this body of new people in the USA. That's why the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was put in.

But even for the Constitution, the 14th amendment is terribly written and overbroad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:58 PM (2VST1)

189
I wonder if someone could build an Aeronca today with a 3D Printer from Amazon??

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 05:59 PM (zcs+5)

190 Pr0n star Emily Willis suffered cardiac arrest during an addiction treatment program. She suffered brain damage and is now permanently disabled. Ketamine was her drug of choice. She reportedly used 6+ grams per day.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 05:48 PM (V1QHJ)
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hmmm, one poor life-choice after another.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 05:59 PM (ZOv7s)

191 184 February first he'll be 88.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:59 PM (E0r6f)

192 Even 1,000 a day is pissing in the ocean.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 05:22 PM (E0r6f)

They are already self-deporting, the less criminal ones. Same thing happened in the first term.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:00 PM (n7h9X)

193 My cities mayor , our county exec and our sheriff are all in on protecting illegals. The sheriff should know better he was a Marine. The leftists here are screaming about everything. I get the sneaking suspicion that something horrible is going to happen , but it's one of those train wrecks you see coming but can do nothing about

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 06:00 PM (6v8aM)

194 Here's the story on the tranny murder cult:

https://tinyurl.com/3ns973rr

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 30, 2025 06:00 PM (EV2jz)

195 TRUMP: "Birthright citizenship...was meant for the children of slaves. This was not meant for the whole world to come in & pile into the United States."

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But I feel sorry for them!

Posted by: Amy Coney Island Barrett at January 30, 2025 06:01 PM (2UnvF)

196 Pr0n star Emily Willis suffered cardiac arrest during an addiction treatment program. She suffered brain damage and is now permanently disabled. Ketamine was her drug of choice. She reportedly used 6+ grams per day.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 05:48 PM (V1QHJ)
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hmmm, one poor life-choice after another.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 05:59 PM (ZOv7s)

That's female empowerment. Much better than a nice middle class husband and 2.5 children and family gatherings and all that oppression.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:01 PM (n7h9X)

197 DEI. It's just a Flesh Wound.

Posted by: jsg at January 30, 2025 06:02 PM (Fg0Nr)

198 115
You have 3 Types of "I Can Fix Him" idiot women, each more pathetic than the other:

The 1st type are your average run of the mill Bad Decision-Makers/Bad Judges of Character.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes

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You don’t need to get this personal, sheesh.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:02 PM (p4NUW)

199 I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.



I rob a bank. On the way out of town, I stop at your house and give you the money. You now get to keep all that money.

Even though you we're not part of the robbery and and didn't break the law, you still don't get to reap the benefits of the broken law.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 06:02 PM (+RnoC)

200 > That's why the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was put in.

I've never understood that phrase. If an illegal alien commits a crime in the US, they can be prosecuted by the legal authority of that jurisdiction. They can't just say, "Sorry, I'm not American, your laws don't apply." It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 06:03 PM (V1QHJ)

201 TRUMP: "Birthright citizenship...was meant for the children of slaves. This was not meant for the whole world to come in & pile into the United States."
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The gasps and pearl clutching by the usual suspects was probably epic.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 06:03 PM (tT6L1)

202 I like that Vance blames Biden directly even though the vegetable in chief was not really running anything except his choice of ice cream.

Biden is the face of the regime, so isolate him, freeze him ... attack. (paraphrase of the rule for radicals by Alinsky)
Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 05:25 PM (Cus5s)

see who is loudest about protesting this. That will be the faction responsible.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:03 PM (n7h9X)

203 I thought the Subject to the jurisdiction was put there to carve out Indians and diplomats.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 06:04 PM (IOGah)

204 That's why the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was put in.

I've never understood that phrase. If an illegal alien commits a crime in the US, they can be prosecuted by the legal authority of that jurisdiction. They can't just say, "Sorry, I'm not American, your laws don't apply." It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.
Posted by: bonhomme


Try and draft an illegal alien. You will find out how quick you don't have jurisdiction over them.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 06:04 PM (+RnoC)

205 199 I like the example of, you let a pregnant woman come visit you at your house, she delivers early and plops the baby out on your couch, and suddenly now she and the baby own your house." It's just not how it works in a sensible world. But our country allows it to happen every day.



I rob a bank. On the way out of town, I stop at your house and give you the money. You now get to keep all that money.

Even though you we're not part of the robbery and and didn't break the law, you still don't get to reap the benefits of the broken law.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 06:02 PM (+RnoC

Do I get to keep the saucy couch?

Posted by: couchfucker at January 30, 2025 06:04 PM (TdYBy)

206
I'd like to buy the World some coke
And keep it company..

Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 30, 2025 06:04 PM (aD39U)

207 Foreign diplomats

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 06:04 PM (IOGah)

208 It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 06:03 PM (V1QHJ)
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If you're hear illegally, you don't have the same rights as a citizen. Therefore, you would not be subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 06:05 PM (tT6L1)

209 >>I've never understood that phrase. If an illegal alien commits a crime in the US, they can be prosecuted by the legal authority of that jurisdiction. They can't just say, "Sorry, I'm not American, your laws don't apply." It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.


Not in my reading.

They'd need to be eligible for the Draft, Taxation in all applicable forms and a host of other obligations of a citizen and/or Legal Alien.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2025 06:05 PM (xk5j8)

210 I got into an argument with Wifey about this. Her position is that we should compromise and give amnesty to those illegals already here.

We should show compassion and let them stay. Of course, they don't get government money anymore, and they're not allowed to work as long as US unemployment is above, say, 0%, but let them stay and enjoy the rights of illegals the world over.
Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2025 05:24 PM (abcTK)

funny how this compassion stops at the murderers and criminals and not at the victims, the people who are taxed to pay for all this, the people unemployed while aliens cut the going rate and so on and so on.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:05 PM (n7h9X)

211 Mayor Jacob Frey was also the guy who was mayor when George Floyd died. I still remember him kneeling before his casket, sobbing.

What a yutz.

Posted by: PJ at January 30, 2025 06:05 PM (RRCAT)

212
Youtuber blancolirio has an update for the collision:

https://is.gd/PbfHiQ

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:06 PM (zcs+5)

213 That's female empowerment. Much better than a nice middle class husband and 2.5 children and family gatherings and all that oppression.

Yeah the whole nu-feminist argument "better to be submissive to your boss who cares nothing for you and can fire you than a man who loves you and commits his life to you" to be strangely uncompelling.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:06 PM (2VST1)

214 Chain migration has got to be gotten rid because any amnesty will just nullify any deportation numbers. That barn door can be closed before the horse gets out.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 30, 2025 06:06 PM (FHoaH)

215 187 I just tried to watch that sign-language video again--I just can't make it through. She makes it to farsical to take seriously, even it were PDT himself that were doing the talking.
Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 05:58 PM (azSra)

I've thought they were all fake since Mandela's funeral (and it made me laugh to find out he was found out).

Mostly because deaf people, today, can read lips if they are deaf from birth. Perhaps maybe something prevents them from having a voice, but I knew a very smart girl, deaf from birth, in the late 60's, who lip read and sounded sort of Scandinavian vs Southern. She was in school at age 2yrs. There's also this thing called "closed captioning" on tv now.

So I have been confused for decades as to why they use them at all. I also know a tiny bit about ASL (a deaf track team taught us the alphabet and cuss words in HS) and it makes no sense when I bother to look at these grimacing people.

In FL we once had a fire emergency in the county and I taped a square of paper over the sign person as she annoyed me bigly.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 06:06 PM (gi+MR)

216 >>Try and draft an illegal alien.


Try and give one the Death Penalty.

Posted by: garrett at January 30, 2025 06:07 PM (xk5j8)

217 I've never understood that phrase. If an illegal alien commits a crime in the US, they can be prosecuted by the legal authority of that jurisdiction. They can't just say, "Sorry, I'm not American, your laws don't apply." It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 06:03 PM (V1QHJ)

Indians in reservations are supposedly in a different 'nation' and can dodge gambling law and build casinos.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:07 PM (n7h9X)

218
I'll tell you right now: there are going to be A Lot of new rules regarding Reagan/Joint Base Bolling, and the wacky shit they were allowing helicopters to do.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (zcs+5)

219 Does a deaf track team use starter pistols?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (E0r6f)

220
Dims: still clinging to their prerogatives as the "Massa Race".

"Who goin' to pick muh crops?"

"Who goin' to cook muh meals?"

"Who goin' to clean muh home?"

"Dunno, 'Massa'. I'm sure you'll find somebody."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (xG4kz)

221 > If you're hear illegally, you don't have the same rights as a citizen. Therefore, you would not be subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

They don't have the same rights, but they have rights under the Constitution. This seems like a distinction that's not implied by the law itself.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (V1QHJ)

222
The Junta was also allowing squatters to just seize houses and have the owners arrested so unfortunately in our Biden led dystopia that was how the world worked
Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 05:52 PM (t0Rmr)

Happened to my nephew. His wife's father died, and they were renovating his house to sell it. When they and the realtor went to do a walk-through before listing, the locks were changed and a family of 9 or 10 were living there. They had a grandma on oxygen and several kids (plus a table with various drugs being packaged for sale) and pulled a gun on my nephew. Cops said there was nothing they could do, the squatters had a "legal" lease. Nephew said, "My wife and I didn't sign it, how is it legal?" Cops refused to investigate. When they were eventually removed, they stole every appliance and destroyed every room in the house- tore down drywall, pooped in all the pipes, including the kitchen sink, and piled dead fish on the carpet. No recourse for my nephew.

Posted by: Moki at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (wLjpr)

223 It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.

Yeah it has to have some contemporary meaning that eludes us (like the militia clause of the 2nd amendment). I think it means "if you are an American" basically, because the term was specifically added to EXCLUDE immigrants just dropping a kid off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (2VST1)

224
There is no evidence that Democrats want violent people GONE!

Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (j4U/Z)

225 The 1st type are your average run of the mill Bad Decision-Makers/Bad Judges of Character.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes

———-
You don’t need to get this personal, sheesh.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:02 PM

You're an excellent judge of character, Piper!

I mean, you hang out with us.

Wait....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 30, 2025 06:09 PM (Wnv9h)

226 Leading Report @LeadingReport 2h
BREAKING: President Trump appoints Chris Rocheleau as the acting administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 06:10 PM (5LoD7)

227 No recourse for my nephew.
Posted by: Moki


No legal recourse maybe. But there are recourses.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 06:10 PM (+RnoC)

228 Off sock

Posted by: Turn 2 at January 30, 2025 06:10 PM (JfxgE)

229 I think it was Adam Carolla who had a bit in his movie where he was doing stand up where there was a group of deaf people in the audience who had an interpreter with them . Hilarious but now I’m not sure if it was Carolla.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 06:10 PM (IOGah)

230
On the other hand, Democrats are telling you these people are Mary, Joseph and Jesus.

Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 06:10 PM (j4U/Z)

231 You're an excellent judge of character, Piper!

I mean, you hang out with us.

*desperately tries to get Redmind to stop digging with sign language behind Piper*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (2VST1)

232 Yeah the whole nu-feminist argument "better to be submissive to your boss who cares nothing for you and can fire you than a man who loves you and commits his life to you" to be strangely uncompelling.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:06 PM (2VST1)

And the 70s-80s version : 'lets give young girls jobs away from their family so we can have meetings with liquor and screw them until they get ugly'

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (n7h9X)

233 Amnesty is always on the table; reform never is.

A problem solved is a campaign issue lost.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (ExV1e)

234 They don't have the same rights, but they have rights under the Constitution. This seems like a distinction that's not implied by the law itself.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (V1QHJ)
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Certain rights, as detailed by the Founders, were considered "inalienable" in that everyone is born with those rights, and, therefore, exercising those rights can only be punished because they're impossible to take away.

I think you're looking at the dividing line of where inalienable ends and constitutional guarantees to citizens.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (tT6L1)

235 Cops refused to investigate. When they were eventually removed, they stole every appliance and destroyed every room in the house- tore down drywall, pooped in all the pipes, including the kitchen sink, and piled dead fish on the carpet. No recourse for my nephew.
Posted by: Moki at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (wLjpr)

But the cops all got to go home safely that night, which is the only thing that matters.

Posted by: Protecting and serving the criminals at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (URPBf)

236 You don’t need to get this personal, sheesh.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:02 PM

You're an excellent judge of character, Piper!

I mean, you hang out with us.

Wait....
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January

Ha!

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (pZEOD)

237 Indians in reservations are supposedly in a different 'nation' and can dodge gambling law and build casinos.

Yet American Indians including those born on a reservation are US citizens with full voting rights, etc. are they not? So I kind of feel like that whole "and subject to the jurisdiction" thing needs to be hashed out in the courts. And the process to do that has to start with a controversy. Which Trump has now provided.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM (/y8xj)

238 *desperately tries to get Redmind to stop digging with sign language behind Piper*
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:11

*squints*

The....sheriff...is....near?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM (Wnv9h)

239
Someone in the Cafe or ONT last night wondered if the heli pilot was wearing Night Vision Goggles (NVG).

Well, good question, because it is now a strong Maybe.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM (zcs+5)

240 Nearly 50 years ago, Garrett Morris showed the way to deliver the news for the hearing impaired. It should be adopted across the board.

Posted by: Beltone Bob at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM (G5+As)

241 What's an RJ?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 06:13 PM (E0r6f)

242 I think the subject to the jurisdiction thing means the Constitution itself. Not the more day to day laws like theft or murder.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2025 06:13 PM (t7yOI)

243 224
There is no evidence that Democrats want violent people GONE!

Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (j4U/Z)

Nope. The Elite Dems use it for power over their base.

The dead broke Dem base want us dead because they hate that we're happy and productive and have everything they never will.

Posted by: jsg at January 30, 2025 06:13 PM (Fg0Nr)

244 219 Does a deaf track team use starter pistols?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (E0r6f)

Ha! I was only 16yrs and forgot to ask. Maybe lights? I dunno but they were at the meet. I was on the relay team and a broad jumper. I jumped broadly. I also was forced into sports mostly because I was tall. Not very competitive.

I played basketball and had an outside shot. I did not believe in wrestling Amazons for tie balls. I basically let them have it so I did not mess up my hair. I still got at least two black eyes and a concussion.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 06:13 PM (gi+MR)

245 No recourse for my nephew.
Posted by: Moki at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (wLjpr)

There was recourse but he chose not to go to prison.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 06:14 PM (IOGah)

246 Yet American Indians including those born on a reservation are US citizens with full voting rights, etc. are they not? So I kind of feel like that whole "and subject to the jurisdiction" thing needs to be hashed out in the courts. And the process to do that has to start with a controversy. Which Trump has now provided.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM


Only because of the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 which postdates the 14th Amendment.

Further, this shows that it is up to Congress to control citizenship, not the courts.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 06:14 PM (aD39U)

247 Yet American Indians including those born on a reservation are US citizens with full voting rights, etc. are they not? So I kind of feel like that whole "and subject to the jurisdiction" thing needs to be hashed out in the courts. And the process to do that has to start with a controversy. Which Trump has now provided.
Posted by: Oddbob


Fine. Press gang the illegals into the military and send them to fight in Ukraine.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 06:14 PM (+RnoC)

248 241 What's an RJ?

$20. same as downtown.

Posted by: anachronda at January 30, 2025 06:14 PM (sGtp+)

249 What's an RJ?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 06:13 PM

Twenty bucks...same as in town.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (Wnv9h)

250 240 Nearly 50 years ago, Garrett Morris showed the way to deliver the news for the hearing impaired. It should be adopted across the board.
Posted by: Beltone Bob at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM (G5+As)

The original SNL crew were the best and my then boyfriend now husband and I watched every Saturday.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (gi+MR)

251
There was recourse but he chose not to go to prison.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 06:14 PM (IOGah)

This. I'm sure he thought about other options, but he had three kids under four, so prison wasn't going to help matters.

Posted by: Moki at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (wLjpr)

252 If you're hear illegally, you don't have the same rights as a citizen. Therefore, you would not be subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

hmmm...Ted Cruz made the opposite of that true when he argued before the World Court that the illegals that participated in a gang rape/kill event in Houston pay the ultimate price the same as the natives that were with them. George Bush took Mexico's side is that case. And lost.

Posted by: DanMan at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (8uzBS)

253 Yet American Indians including those born on a reservation are US citizens with full voting rights, etc. are they not? So I kind of feel like that whole "and subject to the jurisdiction" thing needs to be hashed out in the courts. And the process to do that has to start with a controversy. Which Trump has now provided.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 06:12 PM (/y8xj)
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They were made citizens by an act of Congress in 1924. Prior to that time, they were not citizens.

"subject to the jurisdiction thereof' refers to loyalty. A tourist may be subject to our laws, but their allegiance is with their home nation, so they are not subject to our jurisdiction. If apprehended, their nation can dispute the detainment and seek their release.

They can go to their consulate, etc.

That is why people seeking citizenship have to renounce their prior allegiance.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (ZOv7s)

254 Hordemind is scary.....

Posted by: jsg at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (Fg0Nr)

255 Regional Jet

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM (E0r6f)

256
Yes, that's right: the FAA has been Leader-less since Jan 20th until today. Because....Democrats.

And the FAA's "leadership" has been a joke for over a decade.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM (zcs+5)

257 Indian Reservations are still under US jurisdiction. They are established by federal laws that Congress passed. They aren’t separate countries.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM (t7yOI)

258 I've never understood that phrase. If an illegal alien commits a crime in the US, they can be prosecuted by the legal authority of that jurisdiction. They can't just say, "Sorry, I'm not American, your laws don't apply." It seems to me, that makes them "subject to the jurisdiction." It must be some term of art that I don't understand.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 06:03 PM (V1QHJ)

Indians in reservations are supposedly in a different 'nation' and can dodge gambling law and build casinos.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:07 PM


Native Americans on reservations that have treaties with the federal government are not subject to the jurisdiction of the State the reservation is located in, SCOTUS ruled on that some years back.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM (Rcnd3)

259 If it wasn't for casinos letting them get back some of being screwed for like 300 years straight, I'd call for Indians being just folded into the culture and cut this lame fake two levels of citizenship. No more "reservations" no more different status. But it just cracks me up watching white people voluntarily walk in and pour hundreds of millions of dollars a month into the pockets of people who have basically tooled over for generations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM (2VST1)

260 They aren’t separate countries.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM

Not since 1924.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 06:16 PM (aD39U)

261 237 Yet American Indians including those born on a reservation are US citizens with full voting rights, etc. are they not? So I kind of feel like that whole "and subject to the jurisdiction" thing needs to be hashed out in the courts. And the process to do that has to start with a controversy. Which Trump has now provided.
Posted by: Oddbob at January

In our defense, we were here first. And the reason is state laws don’t affect reservations, not federal. Under the gaming act , the proceeds are supposed to be used for specific purposes with the intent of bringing Native Americans out of poverty.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (pZEOD)

262 He is right, too. The 14th is part of a packet of amendments that were put through in response to slaves being set free. They were trying to work out how to legally deal with this body of new people in the USA. That's why the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was put in.

But even for the Constitution, the 14th amendment is terribly written and overbroad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 05:58 PM (2VST1)

Made especially dicey because they didn't want to write 'slaves' or make something that only applied to one case. Or maybe if we'd occupied a colony with slaves.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (n7h9X)

263 So I have been confused for decades as to why they use them at all. I also know a tiny bit about ASL (a deaf track team taught us the alphabet and cuss words in HS) and it makes no sense when I bother to look at these grimacing people.

I assume in case the speakers mouth gets obscured somehow.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (ExV1e)

264 Help. Was it a sign language guy at a funeral in Africa where Barky was fixated on some Euro PM from Denmark. The guy was so funny we had running mock dialogs around here.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (FHoaH)

265
It's my understanding, there wasn't even an "acting" FAA boss until today. If so, that's on PDT.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (zcs+5)

266 This is the whole ball of wax. There are likely around 30-40 million illegal aliens in the United States. It is questionable the nation can be salvaged. My guess is not. But hope springs eternal for the Left, and they had rather reign in hell. So it is amnesty or your kids get raped and murdered--in which they take great delight.

Arrest this sheriff.

Expel all here illegally.

Outlaw the Democratic Party or turn it into a controlled opposition party.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 30, 2025 06:18 PM (CaELB)

267 Hordemind is scary.....
Posted by: jsg at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM

Beautiful and terrible.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 30, 2025 06:18 PM (Wnv9h)

268 Cops refused to investigate. When they were eventually removed, they stole every appliance and destroyed every room in the house- tore down drywall, pooped in all the pipes, including the kitchen sink, and piled dead fish on the carpet. No recourse for my nephew.
Posted by: Moki at January 30, 2025 06:08 PM (wLjpr)

But the cops all got to go home safely that night, which is the only thing that matters.
----(Part 1
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and...

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 06:18 PM (azSra)

269 But the cops all got to go home safely that night, which is the only thing that matters.
Posted by: Protecting and serving the criminals at January 30, 2025 06:11 PM (URPBf)
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Right, because cops are completely empowered to make the law up as they go, and there are no prosecutors or anyone else involved. Just the cops do things.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 06:18 PM (ZOv7s)

270 Part 2:
....notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn

Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 06:18 PM (azSra)

271 264 Help. Was it a sign language guy at a funeral in Africa where Barky was fixated on some Euro PM from Denmark. The guy was so funny we had running mock dialogs around here.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (FHoaH)

Yes. Mandela's funeral.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 06:19 PM (gi+MR)

272 n our defense, we were here first. And the reason is state laws don’t affect reservations, not federal. Under the gaming act , the proceeds are supposed to be used for specific purposes with the intent of bringing Native Americans out of poverty.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (pZEOD)

Like the lottery, which saved the education system where it was set up and made taxes plummet. Honest!

These lies are like the husband coming home drunk with lipstick on his cheek explaining to his wife how this isn't how it seems

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:19 PM (n7h9X)

273 Made especially dicey because they didn't want to write 'slaves' or make something that only applied to one case. Or maybe if we'd occupied a colony with slaves.

Yeah I wouldn't want to write something that was supposed to endure centuries and stand up to the corrupt sneaky lawyering of lawyers, but still be something that people will vote for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 30, 2025 06:19 PM (2VST1)

274 Made especially dicey because they didn't want to write 'slaves' or make something that only applied to one case. Or maybe if we'd occupied a colony with slaves.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (n7h9X)
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The Dredd Scott decision said that slaves could never actually be free, so the amendment was needed to overturn that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 06:20 PM (ZOv7s)

275 Oh yeah, he shit in my pants too.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at January 30, 2025 06:20 PM (aD39U)

276
You know who else quotes Solzhenitsyn?

Fake dyke "bishops" with hitler haircuts.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:20 PM (zcs+5)

277 Christy Blknky, Thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 30, 2025 06:20 PM (FHoaH)

278 “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and...
Posted by: Crusader at January 30, 2025 06:18 PM (azSra)

The best lesson from GA

Posted by: jsg at January 30, 2025 06:20 PM (Fg0Nr)

279
Nood Fags in a Tub

nood

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (zcs+5)

280 There is such a thing as a deaf cult. Gallaudet types that look down on any deaf person who pursues cochlear implants, for example. They are strident and crazy as any other kind of leftist. Nuts, and everyone else has to suffer their perverse ideas.

Posted by: Now Hear This!! at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (G5+As)

281 Nood. Lemon party.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (dR6yv)

282 Helicopter was a little too high.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (E0r6f)

283 272 These lies are like the husband coming home drunk with lipstick on his cheek explaining to his wife how this isn't how it seems
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30

It definitely got some Natives out of poverty - very specific ones. It didn’t trickle down. This is a whole thing, if you want a rabbit hole to go down one night, should you get bored.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (pZEOD)

284 That is why people seeking citizenship have to renounce their prior allegiance.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 06:15 PM (ZOv7s)

Except they no longer do... The Supremes decided that their view that dual citizenship was AOK over rode the clear Constitutional Power of Congress, to decide matters of citizenship and immigration.

Supremes decided that in a 5-4 decision in 1980.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (QAkQ3)

285 It's my understanding, there wasn't even an "acting" FAA boss until today. If so, that's on PDT.
Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (zcs+5)
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First off, do you need a guy three levels above you to do your basic job?

Do all the ATCs just sit on their hands until the acting is named?

Also: the federal gov't is like the military - when a position falls vacant, the next senior becomes acting.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (ZOv7s)

286 The arrest today of Tren de Aragua gang members was in The Bronx, about two miles from me. FFS, there have been regular reports in the NY Post of them terrorizing their neighborhood.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (Gqoy+)

287 It's my understanding, there wasn't even an "acting" FAA boss until today. If so, that's on PDT.
Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 06:17 PM (zcs+5)

Like the head of the FAA makes scheduling decisions for Reagan Airport.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (n7h9X)

288 They were made citizens by an act of Congress in 1924. Prior to that time, they were not citizens.

Thanks. That clears up that case then. So they are simultaneously citizens for some purposes and not for others. *shrug*

"subject to the jurisdiction thereof' refers to loyalty. A tourist may be subject to our laws, but their allegiance is with their home nation, so they are not subject to our jurisdiction. If apprehended, their nation can dispute the detainment and seek their release.

They can go to their consulate, etc.

I do not necessarily disagree with you but obviously some do. That's why I think it needs to be clarified. Non-weasel-worded legislation would be my preference but failing that a binding court decision. It may not go the way I would prefer but at least it would be settled.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 06:22 PM (/y8xj)

289 It must be some term of art that I don't understand.

it's not you, that amendment was written to address the citizenship of freed slaves. Twenty years later another case about a Chinese kid who was born to Chinese people living in the US (railroad worker). They weren't here illegally and they were established in the US at the time.

Posted by: DanMan at January 30, 2025 06:25 PM (8uzBS)

290 Lawyers have been interpreting a clear one sentence amendment for a hundred years now after there were no questions in the previous 150 years.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 06:25 PM (IOGah)

291 It definitely got some Natives out of poverty - very specific ones. It didn’t trickle down. This is a whole thing, if you want a rabbit hole to go down one night, should you get bored.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (pZEOD)

I don't know the specifics well for Native Americans, but there are many political and historical examples showing that closing your eyes and pouring money in a shower into anything doesn't work.

Every inner city program, say, the introduction of gold and silver from the Americas into Spain, on and on

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:26 PM (n7h9X)

292 Either ATC or someone from Belvoir can be heard on radio telling the helicopter to return to base right before the crash. "Can you return to base? I need you to land immediately," etc.

It's on Gateway Pundit.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 30, 2025 06:26 PM (paSBy)

293 Either ATC or someone from Belvoir can be heard on radio telling the helicopter to return to base right before the crash. "Can you return to base? I need you to land immediately," etc.

It's on Gateway Pundit.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 30, 2025 06:26 PM (paSBy)

wonder if that was on the correct frequency for the helo.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:29 PM (n7h9X)

294 All the officials knew. It was part of being a "Good Democrat"

I never looked at it like a negotiating chip but now I see it and it is disgusting.

Posted by: pawn at January 30, 2025 06:30 PM (QB+5g)

295 wonder if that was on the correct frequency for the helo.
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I don't know. It's on a long podcast and I haven't listened to all of it. The podcaster, "Stinchfield," says the helicopter didn't respond.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 30, 2025 06:31 PM (paSBy)

296
Biden DEI'd and people died.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 30, 2025 06:38 PM (NMT5x)

297 Like the head of the FAA makes scheduling decisions for Reagan Airport.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 06:21 PM (n7h9X)

THIS

Y'all know there is a nood, don't ye?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 06:43 PM (gi+MR)

298 Hawai'i, Maizie Hirono da bes' you can send us?

Do betta, brah. Do betta.

Posted by: Prisoner of Cats at January 30, 2025 07:36 PM (T9zfW)

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