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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition
Phyllis Fong, who served as Inspector General of the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) since 2002, told colleagues last week she planned to resist President Trump's order firing multiple IGs across different federal agencies. The act of defiance did not end well. Security greeted her when she showed up to work on Monday and promptly removed her from her office.
Good. She also stank at her job. Just look at the six-year long mess they made of Boar's Head! The USDA had internal reports of the seemingly total breakdown of that company's food safety systems, yet sat on their ample, well-fed asses until people started dying from Lysteria infections and they couldn't keep eating donuts and doing nothing. Fong's job was to make sure that the USDA was doing what they are supposed to do! She clearly didn't do that well, if the USDA was incapable of upholding basic food safety regulations at one of the iconic brands in the American food industry. And it won't stop on the sidewalk outside of USDA headquarters. It is vital that congress support the president in his efforts to root out the rot within the administration's many departments, and anything less than a united front will be a powerful signal who to primary in 2026! But it will also move into the courts, and hopefully it will go quickly to the Supreme Court, which must decide whether the hundreds of thousands of fifth column moles of the deep state can be dismissed for not supporting the policies of this, or any administration. America cannot be held hostage by unelected bureaucrats whose political beliefs are superior to the will of the American people, as voiced on November 5th, and as implemented by the president and his officers. It is my most fervent hope that President Donald Trump and his cabinet officers pursue this policy with vigor, because this is what he promised, and the American people seem to be tired of being lied to by their politicians! [Crossposted at CutJibNewsletter]
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:00 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 30, 2025 11:01 AM (WKUUp)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 11:02 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: RI Red at January 30, 2025 11:02 AM (mMtti)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:02 AM (J2vNu)
EXCELLENT
"You're fired!!"
Don't even THINK about doing your lil' activist rebellion by asserting it's not legal to fire you!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:02 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: BignJames at January 30, 2025 11:02 AM (Yj6Os)
Posted by: jhawk90 at January 30, 2025 11:02 AM (NMhcg)
Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at January 30, 2025 11:03 AM (FvZIy)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 30, 2025 11:03 AM (WKUUp)
Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at January 30, 2025 11:04 AM (FvZIy)
Posted by: RI Red at January 30, 2025 11:04 AM (mMtti)
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Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (77rzZ)
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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (VwHCD)
Posted by: BignJames at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)
Someone has a rather distorted view of her importance and position in the chain of command.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (iZHkp)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (+iIV1)
These people and their power trips.
Learn to
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (gxokI)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 30, 2025
***
"Fine. But you'll sit there without pay, and you can't use the breakroom or the ladies' room."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: BignJames at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)
I can do nothing for half that! But only if I can work remote.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Wee Tu Lo. at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (G5+As)
Posted by: Max Power at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (+hny1)
Posted by: RI Red at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (mMtti)
Posted by: George Costanza at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (HcoTw)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (zZ4br)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
Well, you just tell Mr. Trump that if he needs me I'll be IN MY OFFICE!!!!!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (+iIV1)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (VwHCD)
1. Grew up in Hawaii (wtf is in the water there?)
2. Lawyer who spent most of her career in government "civil rights" agencies
3. No apparent experience whatsoever with agriculture or IG or anything relevant to being IG of USDA.
4. Appointed by Dubya over 20 years ago.
5. Extremely cushy, almost no-work job
6. Big covid hysteric!
7. Esteemed member of The Resistance!
8. LOLGF
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)
Willowed. Good morning everyone.
Many years ago, i worked in Crystal Park 3 and then 5. The h-60s would fly down the west bank, right over the railroad to avoid crossing the flight paths of Reagan.
Why did they stop that? It was really cool watching them fly at 10th floor level along the railroad.
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Posted by: BifBewalski at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (MsrgL)
Phyllis Fong was born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and raised in Honolulu, Hawaii. After graduating from Pomona College with a B.A. degree in Asian studies, she earned her J.D. degree from Vanderbilt University School of Law.
Fong was nominated by President Bill Clinton and confirmed by the U.S. Senate as the Inspector General of the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA), serving from April 1999 to December 2002.
In December 2002, she was nominated by President George W. Bush and confirmed by the Senate as the Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA).
As Inspector General, Fong oversaw audits, investigations, and other activities related to the USDA’s programs and operations.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (WbBbu)
No. Wait. That was "Fang."
And he actually did some work, unlike this woman.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (E0r6f)
Like the raccoons from the Great Outdoors said "lips n assholes".
Posted by: JROD at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (IlL6s)
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (Aqu9a)
Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (1b5Z6)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
>>Don't even THINK about doing your lil' activist rebellion by asserting it's not legal to fire you!
Unfortunately, there is 99pct chance that some judge, somewhere will rule these firings were illegal and order them to be re-instated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (XV/Pl)
Like the raccoons from the Great Outdoors said "lips n assholes".
Posted by: JROD at January 30, 2025 11:08 AM (IlL6s)
Ya gotta challenge your immune system.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: Pork Flied Lice at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (G5+As)
Otherwise this "whack-a-mole" game with them will take up a lot of productive time and resources.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: BignJames at January 30, 2025 11:05 AM (Yj6Os)
I can do nothing for half that! But only if I can work remote.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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That's probably base pay. Feds get bonuses, which is fucking insane.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Dm8we)
I had crewed a few times for “Air Show Dan”, a Black Hawk driver who pulled a stunt he was incapable of performing and crashed it with family members on board (totally illegal, natch) on a maintenance test flight in the Bahamas.
Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (iZHkp)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (lDb3Z)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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This week, Lee Zeldin was confirmed as EPA chief. Got lost in all the other news.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (ctrM5)
Good. It's a battle that needs to be fought, and there is simply no doubt about Trump's writ to do what he's doing.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (xCA6C)
Dems think citing Barr and Bolton is some big "get."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (EiR50)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Q4IgG)
But the more you whack, the more productive you get.
Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (z+ik4)
Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (mlg/3)
They need to keep it up because the bureaucracy that has been in place for decades will not change unless they see that it has to happen.
They've been quietly and confidently undermining R presidents for my entire adult life. I'm sure they can't believe that it is indeed a new era in America.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (FCbAQ)
Collins just said she doesn't want to have to call her back to this chamber after an attack and ask why the signs were missed...sounds like a mom being like "I don't want to have to call you out on the carpet, young lady!" Condescending.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (XV/Pl)
In re: the communication of 30-JAN by the Honorable Judge Kumonnawannaleia, in the matter of Fong v. Reality, et al.,
Get Fucked
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (+iIV1)
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Unfortunately, there is 99pct chance that some judge, somewhere will rule these firings were illegal and order them to be re-instated.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025
***
To which Trump should say, "How many divisions does this judge have?" Then he can head off to play golf and sign more EOs.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (EV2jz)
Posted by: Chuck Barris at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (Aqu9a)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (XV/Pl)
Separate, but equal, baby!
Posted by: RI Red at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (mMtti)
https://is.gd/XjrYJC
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:09 AM (L/fGl)
I so wish that was legit audio.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: runner at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Dm8we)
I'd forgotten about that.
Posted by: BignJames at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (Yj6Os)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (sJ2CP)
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I had this hope in Trump's first term that the aghast notion of an outside being president would lead to efforts to limit the power of the executive.
How silly I was.
No, the solution was to further empower the executive...'s unelected bureaucracy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (dkDdC)
There's a lot less deference being shown these self-important gas bags than they think they deserve. Good. They've already decided how they're going to vote anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (xCA6C)
Like the raccoons from the Great Outdoors said "lips n assholes".
Posted by: JROD
When I worked in DC, there was a great little deli/diner I'd go to near my office. I think all of their meats were Boar's Head. Good stuff.
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 11:13 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:13 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:13 AM (g8Ew8)
Asian Studies? Why not pick something more challenging like basket weaving.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:13 AM (E0r6f)
Fong was among the 17 federal watchdogs fired by Trump in what critics described as a Friday night purge. Speaking to reporters afterward aboard Air Force One, Trump defended the move, saying “it’s a very common thing to do.” He did not say who would be installed in the vacant posts.
The dismissals, handed out less than a week after Trump took office for his second term, appeared to violate federal law, the Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency said in a letter to the White House on Friday.
Fong served as the first chairperson of CIGIE from 2008 through 2014, according to her biography on USDA’s website.
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So, they will try to lawfare him out of exerting any of his rightful executive power.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: Fong-Fong OnlyFans at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (dyGKN)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (EiR50)
I wanted him to ask in return, "are you asking me if I think that statement was because Robert Barr has an enemies list?"
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (EV2jz)
And did that ever backfire.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (ExV1e)
NOT MY JOB: Mayor Brandon Johnson doesn’t believe it’s his job to keep illegal alien s*x offenders off the streets of Chicago:
Reporter: "Tom Homan showed up in Chicago and within 24 hours, found a convicted s*x offender who has been living in our city since 2009. If he can do this, why can't you?"
Johnson: "That’s their job."
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Brandon's job is too loot the treasury.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: JROD at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (IlL6s)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Not so sure about that. Depends on definition of major and minor officers of the US. Major officers of the US, unless involved in quasi judicial or quasi legislative regulatory jobs are not protected from removal. IG jobs are primarily investigative and thus not quasi judicial. Investigations are executive functions and precedent has already been set that IGs can be removed for cause among other things.
A lot of district court judges are going to get their tallywackers or other appropriate protuberances thwacked by appellate actions due to Scotus precedents. I don't think the But Trump legal precedents are going to be binding this time. There will be potholes but Supreme Court generally follows the election results.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (ctrM5)
To which Trump should say, "How many divisions does this judge have?" Then he can head off to play golf and sign more EOs.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (J2vNu)
Didn't SCOTUS say no to the student loan debt cancel scheme? Did that stop the democrats?
Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (+iIV1)
>>To which Trump should say, "How many divisions does this judge have?" Then he can head off to play golf and sign more EOs.
True, but sadly, that's not going to happen, as Archimedes said, this is a fight that has to happen.
This is what the major front of resistance is going to be, judicial activism, the other front is going to be GOPe f**kery.
Both have to be dealt with simultaneously.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (XV/Pl)
NOT MY JOB: Mayor Brandon Johnson doesn’t believe it’s his job to keep illegal alien s*x offenders off the streets of Chicago:
Reporter: "Tom Homan showed up in Chicago and within 24 hours, found a convicted s*x offender who has been living in our city since 2009. If he can do this, why can't you?"
Johnson: "That’s their job."
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Brandon's job is too loot the treasury.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
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It's a mystery why the Democrat Party is polling at its lowest levels of popularity in the modern era of American politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 30, 2025
***
"Fine. But you'll sit there without pay, and you can't use the breakroom or the ladies' room."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:06 AM (J2vNu)
Move her desk to the basement. And NO stapler.
Posted by: Milton at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (iODuv)
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:13 AM (cjAAr)
Normally I just cover it in maple syrup.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (ExV1e)
They need to keep it up because the bureaucracy that has been in place for decades will not change unless they see that it has to happen.
They've been quietly and confidently undermining R presidents for my entire adult life. I'm sure they can't believe that it is indeed a new era in America.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (FCbAQ)
It has the flavor of performing an end run around the threat of a coup.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (D7oie)
The "that's not who we are" game isn't gonna fall for the banana in the tailpipe anymore.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (cjAAr)
I'd like to see them purged.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:16 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex
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From a recent Chicago City ethics official's report, Brandon has a secret room in his offices filled with loot--presents, etc.
Activist types on the left are usually activists in order to gain wealth, power, and/or sex.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:16 AM (ctrM5)
Prescient, that's what.
Posted by: Pippin at January 30, 2025 11:16 AM (v04i8)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (aD39U)
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^^^^^^^
A little dirt, pets,some food from the back of the fridge, keeps you tuned up.
Posted by: From about That Time at January 30, 2025 11:17 AM (4780s)
Reporter: "Tom Homan showed up in Chicago and within 24 hours, found a convicted s*x offender who has been living in our city since 2009. If he can do this, why can't you?"
Johnson: "That’s their job."
Reporter: What would you say you do here?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:17 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: JROD at January 30, 2025 11:17 AM (IlL6s)
If their whole identity and ego was tied to the job, I can see it being crippling to see that go, and they can't help themselves. A lot of times those are the people that die within a year of retirement, if there is nothing else for them to do to fill their time and create a sense of identity and purpose.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:17 AM (gWBY1)
NOT MY JOB: Mayor Brandon Johnson doesn’t believe it’s his job to keep illegal alien s*x offenders off the streets of Chicago:
Reporter: "Tom Homan showed up in Chicago and within 24 hours, found a convicted s*x offender who has been living in our city since 2009. If he can do this, why can't you?"
Johnson: "That’s their job."
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Brandon's job is too loot the treasury.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:14 AM (L/fGl)
Ask him if it would have been job with a citizen sex offender.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 11:17 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Phyllis Fong at January 30, 2025 11:17 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: runner at January 30, 2025 11:12 AM (g47mK
Crashes come in 3's. The South Korean crash, the one last night and (who's next).
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew8)
The USDA inspector general has a broad mandate, pursuing consumer food safety, audits and investigations of the Agriculture Department as well as violations of animal welfare laws. The USDA has been at the heart of concerns about bird flu, which has spread among cattle and chickens and killed a person in Louisiana.
Proactive firing to prevent another covid-style freakout?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (WbBbu)
I think Ill avoid Boar's Head for a while now assuming it hasnt already killed me
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (iZHkp)
Remember the B52 driver determined to do a barrel roll?
Posted by: BignJames at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (Yj6Os)
>>A lot of district court judges are going to get their tallywackers or other appropriate protuberances thwacked by appellate actions due to Scotus precedents.
Perhaps, but as history has show, some district magistrate has the power to kill the KeyStone pipeline, which is now dead, probably for all-time, so I'm fairly confident we are mere days away from this being reversed by some random judge.
And as big of wrecking ball is, I don't think he is going to ignore judicial edicts.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (XV/Pl)
They need to keep it up because the bureaucracy that has been in place for decades will not change unless they see that it has to happen.
They've been quietly and confidently undermining R presidents for my entire adult life. I'm sure they can't believe that it is indeed a new era in America.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (FCbAQ)
It has the flavor of performing an end run around the threat of a coup.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:15 AM (D7oie)
When you need to blitzkrieg, Pervitin, don't pussyfoot.
Posted by: Tuco Schicklgruber at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (Aqu9a)
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:19 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Kristen at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (5aPw1)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew
***looks around innocently***
Posted by: Stock Markets at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (TTAGa)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (E0r6f)
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (D7oie)
These psychos seriously have the fucking nerve to say they're "protecting democracy". They're setting up a fucking dictatorship filled with ass kissers and bootlickers who will do their every evil bidding.
The White House calling her a "partisan bureaucrat" spells out the basis she has for a lawsuit. this is exactly what is required. Make them force the issue. Do not comply in advance. Fong is a real one
Too many people in important federal positions simply retired rather than challenge trump last time. It's pretty clear the only way our democracy will survive this second time is via courageous acts of resistance.
Why are the security agents following illegal orders? Why is anybody?
Security is likely to be former military/police and follow chain of command, and if that's the case, more likely to be Republican. Plus, they are relatively little people. Their livelihood depends on keeping their superiors happy, who depend on keeping trump’s appointees happy.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (JCZqz)
Funny how that cargo ship crash disappeared after about 48 hours, eh?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Lizzy
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Congress cannot restrict a president for firing executive department officials for cause. Setting up resistance 2.0 is cause and all of her emails, all of her work product, her social media, etc. can be scoured for statements that support that. And, as above, no congressional protections extend to incompetence at their job as well.
Resistance 1.0 relied upon McConnell and Ryan (and then Pelosi after 2018 elections) to threaten Trump with impeachment etc. That threat is now a broken and twisted relic of the past as a tool.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew
***looks around innocently***
Posted by: Stock Markets at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (TTAGa)
** not me !
Posted by: Tay Tay's popularity at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (g47mK)
Zombie Richard Simmons told him to try to talk like a man, and not a gay retard.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew
The dems crashed pretty hard.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (VwHCD)
Apparently they found a window of time when Chaucer's location was unaccounted for, and pretended the events in the movie happened during that period.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (Wg6v7)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (JCZqz)
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I'm really curious:
How democratic is a bureaucracy that has no feedback mechanism to the people's expressed desire through voting?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (HYKHz)
Indeed. I've eaten a lot of Boar's Head deli meat and cheese over the years. Good sammich material.
But it'll be a while before I eat it again. If ever.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: runner at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (QZThv)
That's probably base pay. Feds get bonuses, which is fucking insane.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:10 AM (Dm8we)
Good news: You get a bonus this year
Bad news: It's a paper check that you have to pick up and sign for in person at the post office, False Pass, Unimak Island, Alaska
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (FoIOl)
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (Wg6v7)
Eat your melamine and shut up!
Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (JCZqz)
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So...does this apply under Democrat presidents too?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
I doubt they'd be able to pull that off.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (xCA6C)
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Russian pairs figure-skating champions.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (Q4IgG)
Wrong. Trump should continue to dismiss who he pleases without regard to the verdict of the USSC.
He should refuse to enforce any injunction the Court chooses to apply and give Separation of Powers as his reason.
Posted by: Senator Liawatha at January 30, 2025 11:22 AM (jbnUc)
***************
But its ok when WE do it!
Posted by: Also the retarded fuckheads at DU at January 30, 2025 11:23 AM (HYKHz)
Just how hot is this Fong Babe?
Posted by: Eric Swalwell at January 30, 2025 11:23 AM (Vrdez)
Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at January 30, 2025 11:23 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 30, 2025 11:24 AM (V6W16)
Posted by: JROD at January 30, 2025 11:24 AM (IlL6s)
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Well, she was sending emails:
[i[In an email to colleagues on Saturday, reviewed by Reuters, she said the independent Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency “has taken the position that these termination notices do not comply with the requirements set out in law and therefore are not effective at this time.”
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:24 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 30, 2025 11:24 AM (V6W16)
Her plaster is well applied.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:24 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (E0r6f)
And as big of wrecking ball is, I don't think he is going to ignore judicial edicts.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Nope, talks about Keystone are being revived. Still makes economic sense--it was the Biden administration that killed it via export license requirements, not a judge.
There is also the Reagan tactic of simply ignoring the ruling of one judge in application to the situation of others (happened in SSDI cases). Technically, a judge's ruling only binds the parties directly in the case and cannot bind those in other jurisdictions or even other plaintiffs (if not a class action lawsuit). Even Court of Appeals decisions, are technically limited to their particular circuit.
That is why the DC Circuit was a must capture for Reid and Co to the extent they nuked the filibuster to do so.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: The Huge Manatee! at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (G5+As)
Just how hot is this Fong Babe?
Posted by: Eric Swalwell at January 30, 2025 11:23 AM (Vrdez)
Ok for her age, but she's no Fang Fang Gang Bang Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.
It's a mark of just how stupid Swalwell is that he never got suspicious of why this hot Chinese babe was interested in a mutt like him.
Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (W5ArC)
Oh, mr judge person says i can't fire my employees?
Ok.
The USDA is hereby disbanded. Pack up your shit, folks.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (+iIV1)
Posted by: The Huge Manatee! at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (G5+As)
I wonder if they said YOU GO NOW.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (VwHCD)
Posted by: Ancient Chinese Secret at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (W5ArC)
What they did was spin the news cycle so opponents didn't know where to look or what to do. They also accelerated the cycle by a factor of 5 or 10. So where any story used to maybe linger for days and be "the news", they made sure that the life cycle of the *average* story was very very short, meaning with many things to choose from including fake ones, they could further manipulate what became prominent and what would be ignored.
Compare how a tranny mass shooting at a Christian school that kills 10 kids is treated to the life of a Trayvon or George Floyd story. This was all intentional.
Uniparty prevented this during DJT1 by running the Russia Hoax and keeping Trump under constant investigation and threat. It meant the 24/7 news always had a story to talk about that was under their curation.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 30, 2025 11:20 AM (JCZqz)
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I'm really curious:
How democratic is a bureaucracy that has no feedback mechanism to the people's expressed desire through voting?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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Oh you lost wayward soul. Isn't the answer obvious? It depends entirely on the political affiliation of the sitting president at the time.
Trump kicking this dedicated heroic public servant to the curb? THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
Biden kicking this paper-pushing parasite to the curb? DEMOCRACY AT ITS FINEST.
See how this works?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (iFTx/)
So long, Fong!
That's good money for someone who majored in hallway monitoring
Posted by: Boss Moss
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (xG4kz)
I'm glad Trump is getting ahead of it. Because I could see the media going all "Trump's in office now, planes be falling from the sky!" Because they are ghouls, and that matters more than the victims or fixing the problem.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:27 AM (gWBY1)
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The irony is that I got some of their meats due to it not having the hydrolyzed shit that Sabretts and Nathans had
And now it makes sense why they stunk and tasted like the stench of dead dogs whenever I kept them in the freezer for more than a week
I'm now giving True Story dogs a try and they're delish AND also keeping well in the freezer (so far)
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 11:27 AM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:27 AM (E0r6f)
Too high profile. Trump will point out the incompetence and the media will scream "raaaaaacist!".
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:27 AM (2ocoG)
I wonder if they said YOU GO NOW.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (VwHCD)
You heah fow twenny two yeahs.
Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 11:27 AM (z+ik4)
Posted by: Wee Tu Lo. at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (G5+As)
All of the above>>Mike Nifong
Posted by: Duke Lacrosse Team at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (PLGSy)
Trump kicking this dedicated heroic public servant to the curb? THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
Biden kicking this paper-pushing parasite to the curb? DEMOCRACY AT ITS FINEST.
See how this works?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 11:26 AM (iFTx/)
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Can we define democracy here? It must be some sort of first assumption difference that's causing confusion here.
Let me define democracy: the people voting for governmental action, though, of course, we are a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (GBKbO)
Just how hot is this Fong Babe?
Posted by: Eric Swalwell
Gross! No yellow!
Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons
Hey sailor!
Posted by: Kamala
Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (0bE/L)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (WKUUp)
The Chernobyl miniseries is a good cautionary tale for how that is complete folly.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (xCA6C)
[i[In an email to colleagues on Saturday, reviewed by Reuters, she said the independent Council of the Inspectors General on Integrity and Efficiency “has taken the position that these termination notices do not comply with the requirements set out in law and therefore are not effective at this time.”
Posted by: Lizzy
Associations are unofficial groups and their self interested interpretation of law is about the same value as the legal opinion of the man on the street.
Statutes and the Constitution itself (precedent going back to Washington firing people plus a bunch of court cases) are what matters.
There is a revised law on IG removal but even then, a president can fire someone for insubordination (cause).
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (ctrM5)
Hell, they killed the stories of *two* assassination attempts on Trump within a few days. Like it never happened - they only covered people who insisted his ear was nicked by shattered teleprompter glass, not a bullet.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (WbBbu)
Posted by: Askem For Funny Face Drink at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (G5+As)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (V6W16)
Every person in the Executive Branch works for the President. That's how it works. This isn't some new revelation.
These leftists scumbags who pretend that the FBI is some independent branch of government when we've had clowns like Comey who worked with Obama to frame Trump are breathtakingly dishonest.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (aD39U)
I get paid to eat cheap hotdogs.
Posted by: Kamala Sutra Harris at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew
The dems crashed pretty hard.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (VwHCD)
This is true. But I was talking primarily of plane crashes. Since Inauguration Day there's been numerous types of crashes.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (g8Ew8)
It didn't matter because the story had done its job for over two years prior. For two years Mueller was COMING, and it was Mueller Time. Trump was going to be removed from office for Obstruction. And that all kept their stupid leftards busy and active.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:28 AM (aD39U)
Hebrew National or nothing. Nathan's at times. Since I was a kid. Four years older than our old friend, Vic.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (iODuv)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (+iIV1)
That's why it's "our democracy", not the voter's.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (2ocoG)
https://is.gd/iVKCEl
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: The Huge Manatee! at January 30, 2025 11:25 AM (G5+As)
It is the year of the Snake.
HAPPY TET!
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (D7oie)
Every person in the Executive Branch works for the President. That's how it works. This isn't some new revelation.
These leftists scumbags who pretend that the FBI is some independent branch of government when we've had clowns like Comey who worked with Obama to frame Trump are breathtakingly dishonest.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (LkLld)
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But the press scared W into being meek on the issue by blowing up the front pages with contrived controversy on USAs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
There was a legal way. He can give Congress 30 days notice and then remove them. That's it. 30 days. And the IGs and CIGIE would have no legal objection. And yes, the legislative branch passed a bill that was signed by the President that limited the Executive branch's ability to remove this one particular category of official. That is a Constitutional check on the power of the Executive branch.
So why didn't he follow the rather minor procedural hurdle? This one could easily get blocked by the courts, and by that time, Trump may have lost momentum and the Democrats may have found a way to organize and intimidate the Republican squishes in the Senate.
While I appreciate the shock and awe approach, it's most effective when you also use the easy tools available to accomplish the same thing.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (a/dOO)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 30, 2025 11:24 AM (V6W16)
Her plaster is well applied.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
Should plaster be painted with an air gun or would a rattle can be sufficient?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (/U5Yz)
Those were the ones made with pure, sweet, sodium cyclamate, right?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (bss/y)
Hebrew Nats here too. Good stuff.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:31 AM (2ocoG)
Posted by: runner at January 30, 2025 11:31 AM (g47mK)
Hey sailor!
Posted by: Kamala
Posted by: rickb223
Nice shiners, Old Lady Emhoff!
Dougie enrolled you in the Perpetual Shiners Club, did he?
What an exemplary Second Gentleman!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 11:31 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)
"May I recommend using the nightstick, Officer?"
Posted by: NR Pax at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (svLOV)
This is a common theme, maybe the central tenet of the Uniparty government, and its bureaucracy that operates as an extra constitutional government. The same can be said for these foreign wombs that unilaterally create new citizens by simply squirting out a kid without respect to the will of the citizens.
The President isn't just the head of the Executive branch, the President is the Executive branch and all other personal and agencies that emanate from this serve at his or her will. This is a fact that the Left immediately ignores and then undermines, with varying degrees of success, using their opaque Mandarin penumbras and emanations to castrate presidents it despises.
President Trump is applying the correct tactic to these proven enemy bureaucrats: fire their asses, pull their clearances, cancel their access, and perp walk them off the property. From there these departed can wage their insurrection from afar.
Happy trails M'fers.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (Q8Bj8)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)
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Funny Face was Hepburn.
Funny Girl was Streisand (and William Wyler).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
While I appreciate the shock and awe approach, it's most effective when you also use the easy tools available to accomplish the same thing.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM
Is she fired or just removed from her office?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (aD39U)
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Gosh, were these people also in high dudgeon when the very same security apparatus were used to arrest gramma and grandpa for being at the White House on J6?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (WKUUp)
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (cjAAr)
Vienna Beef from Chicagoland is still the king of offal-based sausage-like link products, though.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE SHE'S GOT A BIG OL' SCHNOZZ
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (+iIV1)
Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (0bE/L)
Hebrew Nats here too. Good stuff.
Posted by: Ian S
Sabrett FTW.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (/U5Yz)
It didn't matter because the story had done its job for over two years prior. For two years Mueller was COMING, and it was Mueller Time. Trump was going to be removed from office for Obstruction. And that all kept their stupid leftards busy and active.
Posted by: ...
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Yep, and now a lot of that is gonna get exposed so that the Lawfare crew's asses are hanging out in midair where all can see them twinkle.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
Um, when legislation is passed and signed by the executive, yes, they can. That is a law, whether or not a later executive likes it.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (a/dOO)
Posted by: JROD at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (IlL6s)
Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 11:11 AM (z+ik4)
Years ago, somebody here posted a link to a video of Jenna Jameson playing Whack-a-Mole. She was not nekkid, so SFW, but she seemed very intense. Anyone else remember that?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (8zz6B)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 11:07 AM (VwHCD)
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Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, e intollerabile at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (KjLnc)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (tT6L1)
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Wife likes 'em. Skin isn't too tough either.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (E0r6f)
Funny Girl was Streisand (and William Wyler).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)
Also a really, really sappy Tammy Wynette song. Sappy even by the standards of Tammy Wynette songs.
https://tinyurl.com/mune9dee
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (g8Ew8)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (Dm8we)
Posted by: Grump928(C)
When you wake up in the morning and the light has hurt your head
The first thing you do when you get up out of bed
Is hit the streets a-runnin' and try to beat the hogs
And go get yourself some cheap hot dogs
Oh, yeah!
Oh, yeah!
Oh, yeah!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (L/fGl)
So why didn't he follow the rather minor procedural hurdle? This one could easily get blocked by the courts, and by that time, Trump may have lost momentum and the Democrats may have found a way to organize and intimidate the Republican squishes in the Senate.
That's giving them 30 days to cover up all the crimes they've committed over the last 4 years.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (WKUUp)
We're were witnessing the slow cancerous death of our Constitutional Democracy by only given the choice to vote for a horrible lying piece of shit, who did nothing that they promised to do to gain our votes or a communist horrible lying piece of shit, who did nothing that they promised to do to gain our votes.
"Our Democracy" ie. Our Constitutional Republic was in the last, trembling stages of death with Biden, when-
it was administered a miracle cure in the form of Donald J Trump.
Any Republican who can't follow the Cure needs to be primaries out of office toot sweet in 2026.
And, of course, all Dims as well.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 30, 2025 11:35 AM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (aD39U)
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Yoo hoo! Call me!
Posted by: peter buttigieg at January 30, 2025 11:36 AM (tT6L1)
https://tinyurl.com/mune9dee
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (W5ArC)
That's pretty damn sappy, to be sure.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:36 AM (bss/y)
Happy trails M'fers.
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (Q8Bj
Exactly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 30, 2025 11:36 AM (mWSu4)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2025 11:36 AM (YIxO9)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (E0r6f)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (bss/y)
So why didn't he follow the rather minor procedural hurdle? This one could easily get blocked by the courts, and by that time, Trump may have lost momentum and the Democrats may have found a way to organize and intimidate the Republican squishes in the Senate.
While I appreciate the shock and awe approach, it's most effective when you also use the easy tools available to accomplish the same thing.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon
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The law itself is probably unconstitutional as it requires the President to wait and fire someone for cause. And insubordination is a cause for removal along with incompetence.
Congress does not have that power over removal of federal officers if they are not quasi legislative or quasi judicial officials (investigations are an executive function btw).
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5)
We don't really have all that many Republican fans, as it turns out.
Posted by: Robert Smith at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (W5ArC)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025
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Funny Girl. Funny Face was a brief TV series in the early '70s with Sandy Duncan.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (dR6yv)
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
Um, when legislation is passed and signed by the executive, yes, they can. That is a law, whether or not a later executive likes it.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (a/dOO)
I think you're looking at cause vs no cause firing. I think Trump is saying cause for the IG firings b/c they didn't do their job. The USDA one might be the most clear cut cause (thanks to Boars Head) so the hardest one to fight...others have a better shot at getting their jobs back b/c of the lack of notice...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (exHjb)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM
I'll keep an eye out for it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 11:38 AM (aD39U)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 11:38 AM (/U5Yz)
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‘ How democratic is a bureaucracy that has no feedback mechanism’
You know darn well that their definition of democracy’ is when they win.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 30, 2025 11:38 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, una tragedia at January 30, 2025 11:39 AM (KjLnc)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:34 AM (E0r6f)
Yentl, no?
Just for the record, I hope the court understands that I hate Barbara Streisand and her movies, I just have a memory for some things like a steel trap.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:39 AM (bss/y)
Trump is raising questions about the crash, calling it "preventable"
This link in Top Headlines, about Trump raising questions, goes to an X post of a rabbit eating food.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 30, 2025 11:39 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
I think Bruce Willis used rattle cans in Death Becomes Her.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 30, 2025 11:39 AM (JCZqz)
We don't really have all that many Republican fans, as it turns out.
Posted by: Robert Smith at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (W5ArC)
But, but, but..."Love Cats", Bobby!
You shouldn't done more songs like "Love Cats"!!!!
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 11:39 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (a/dOO)
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I think any law restricting the executives ability to fire members of the executive is prima facie unconstitutional.
Congress's control over the executive branch employment is limited to its advise and consent powers over cabinet officials. Anything else is the legislature unconstitutionally exerting undue influence on another branch of government.
It'd be like the President needing sign off for the House to expel members.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)
Vienna Beef from Chicagoland is still the king of offal-based sausage-like link products, though.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (W5ArC)
Hungarian kolbasz grilled, on a nice hard roll with browned kraut and brown spicy mustard. I still treat myself to it. The Hungarian DNA craves it. LOL!!
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (iODuv)
There is a revised law on IG removal but even then, a president can fire someone for insubordination (cause).
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:29 AM (ctrM5)
Again, CIGIE is a statutorally created body, so yeah, it does actually have some credibility. And when it comes to IGs, again, the executive is required to give 30-day notice.
I'm not defending Fong. I am familiar with the IG community. There are/were great IGs, and ones that were horribly run and ineffective.
On this one, Trump admits that he doesn't know who the IGs were. So who has his ear and actually ordered the removal, and what agenda does that person have? That's my concern.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (a/dOO)
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (exHjb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (E0r6f)
Posted by: Kamala
Guess who beats her nearest competitor for the '28 Donk nomination by better than 3 to 1.
https://is.gd/M6uqE3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (EiR50)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (EV2jz)
Posted by: Maj. Healey
I think Bruce Willis used rattle cans in Death Becomes Her.
Posted by: Moron Analyst
Thanks. I'll recommend this to my MIL.
This is why I come here.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (/U5Yz)
Nothing the Prez has done here is tripping my red flags.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (PzXaK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
Is this a Tonya Harding joke?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: anachronda at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (4tmpE)
Posted by: Kamala
Guess who beats her nearest competitor for the '28 Donk nomination by better than 3 to 1.
https://is.gd/M6uqE3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
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Lots of time until 2028, but yeah.
The idea that she'd just vanish as unbearably embarrassing was always nonsense. Name recognition counts for so much in politics, and she has more than any other Democrat who will run.
Still, I doubt she lasts to Super Tuesday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (Q8Bj8)
Posted by: Onions, Mustard, FTW! at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (G5+As)
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BTW, Congress cannot "check" the executive on removal, only appointment to major officials. Myers v. Humphreys drove a stake in the heart of the idea that the Senate could prevent removal of presidential appointees. The two exceptions were allowed later for regulatory appointees that exercised Congressional rulemaking and judicial functions (FTC commissioner--case was Humphrey's Executor), and Weiner v. US (War Claims Commission--quasi judicial). IGs are neither of these.
I suggest you read Myers v. Humphreys as it is not a long case but CJ William Howard Taft's opinion is magisterial (and has the lessons learned in hindsight from his stint as President). Basically, a president cannot faithfully execute the laws as Chief manager if he cannot remove insubordinate or incompetent staff. So Congress does not have the power to restrict a president from firing those as such. We can talk about the Pendleton Act a bit later as that gets more complex.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (YIxO9)
We should be so lucky, but there is zero.point.zero chance that she gets another shot.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)
The absurdity of letting Democrats slime Kash as a partisan while they allowed Biden and Obama to weaponize the DOJ is maddening.
Push back on these lying scumbags.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (LkLld)
Seriously. He's Joe Rogan's face on the Rock's body. It's uncanny.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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Is Friday afternoon really the time of choice?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (Dm8we)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
But on Slurper Tuesday WATCH OUT
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (cjAAr)
I love PDT, but this is ugh at this instant.
Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (aBgBM)
Funny Girl was Streisand (and William Wyler).
And Fanny Face is the biopic about Darius "Sweetdick" Honeycum.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (2ocoG)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)
A trifecta of patriotic Americans. 🇺🇸
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (4tmpE)
Nothing the Prez has done here is tripping my red flags.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:41 AM (PzXaK)
Yeah, you always want to minimize impact if they do something insane (had a couple of those, but only a couple.) You do not want them to work themselves up. Make it as much of a 'surprise' as possible. Most know when the hammer falls and why it does, but the ones who don't are the ones you are trying to give no chance to be retards.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (PCK5/)
Still, I doubt she lasts to Super Tuesday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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Name recognition as a hopeless vapid twit of a failure doesn't go all that far though.
Well, maybe it does. There WAS Joe Biden I suppose.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (PzXaK)
Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (PCK5/)
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He'll never win the presidency if he keeps this up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
Vienna Beef from Chicagoland is still the king of offal-based sausage-like link products, though.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 11:32 AM (W5ArC)
I'm the sausage king of Chicago!
Posted by: Abe Froman at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (Aqu9a)
Posted by: Onions, Mustard, FTW!
This person recognizes a good dirty water dog when he smells them.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (/U5Yz)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (wBaIH)
well, there was mechastreisand in a south park episode...
Posted by: anachronda at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (EV2jz)
Posted by: Kamala
Guess who beats her nearest competitor for the '28 Donk nomination by better than 3 to 1.
https://is.gd/M6uqE3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
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Her nearest competitor is a penis?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
I love PDT, but this is ugh at this instant.
Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (aBgBM)
If it's true, it's true. Someone had (multiple) huge human errors, and it wasn't the personnel of the landing plane. So, you're down to 2 potential parties...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (exHjb)
And get told that the president has complete control over the executive branch.
Meaning he can fire EVERYONE. (Which, constitutionally, he can and should.)
The "civil service" has failed. It's time that we take out the trash.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (N1DT3)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (E0r6f)
Wait! Even they aren't putting up with that shit anymore. Learn to blow leaves.
Posted by: Ripley at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (PTDkx)
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (Q8Bj8)
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (iFTx/)
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Buttigieg.
So, yes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (exHjb)
The IG has no power to order USDA to change inspection procedures. They audit and produce recommendations that can be accepted or not. The USDA may have pointed out dozens of issues with the inspection process, but it's up to USDA management to make changes. The failure of Boar's Head is not on the IG.
And given that Trump has admitted he has no idea who they were, how can you argue that they were fired for cause? In this case, he needed to just go through the process, take 30 days and be done with it. No martyrs, no risk of legal setbacks that can get used in other cases as precedent.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (a/dOO)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (Dm8we)
Actually, no. As Napoleon said 'Speed is life' so the wise man does it immediately when the need presents itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (Dm8we)
Actually, no. As Napoleon said 'Speed is life' so the wise man does it immediately when the need presents itself.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)
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Could have used a train from Moscow, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 30, 2025 11:36 AM (YIxO9)
I do wonder if he is being "extremely reachable" about the Russian athletes who were killed.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (D7oie)
And get told that the president has complete control over the executive branch.
Meaning he can fire EVERYONE. (Which, constitutionally, he can and should.)
The "civil service" has failed. It's time that we take out the trash.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 30, 2025 11:44 AM (N1DT3)
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Yep, would LOVE to get a Court precedent to that effect.
Honestly I don't think the fired people are going to sue and risk that. They'll probably get better mileage out of making it a political issue, and frankly they are probably right.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (PzXaK)
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... with extreme prejudice even!
Posted by: ShainS -- Make Treason Executable Again! at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (C+z+B)
Posted by: Nashville Cats at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (G5+As)
Yep. My Fair Lady but with Astaire and Givenchy. Hepburn finally got to sing with her real voice in that film and wasn't dubbed.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (gWBY1)
"Make no mistake, there will be a trial, and when that trial ends, senators will have to decide if they believe Donald John Trump incited the erection”
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (a3Q+t)
Yep. My Fair Lady but with Astaire and Givenchy. Hepburn finally got to sing with her real voice in that film and wasn't dubbed.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (gWBY1)
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I don't like it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)
Well I've certainly been thinking it.
Trump is not known for his couth or restraint and hell they're going to pin this on him *and* us (you and me, see Katrina et al) so he is going on offense and setting narrative before they get the chance.
Would I prefer a world where corpses didn't get crapped on by our highest officials while they're still drying? YES. But we don't live in that world.
They hate Trump because he can out-left the left. Also, he may very well be correct.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:37 AM (exHjb)
The IG has no power to order USDA to change inspection procedures. They audit and produce recommendations that can be accepted or not. The USDA may have pointed out dozens of issues with the inspection process, but it's up to USDA management to make changes. The failure of Boar's Head is not on the IG.
And given that Trump has admitted he has no idea who they were, how can you argue that they were fired for cause? In this case, he needed to just go through the process, take 30 days and be done with it. No martyrs, no risk of legal setbacks that can get used in other cases as precedent.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (a/dOO)
The IG should have informed the president of the spectacular issues at USDA...did they?
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (exHjb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (4tmpE)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (E0r6f)
de l'audace, encore de l'audace, et toujours de l'audace
-Georges-Jacques Danton
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 30, 2025 11:48 AM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (E0r6f)
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Good voice, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
Russia is a big, cold, muddy place.
-Wehrmacht
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2025 11:48 AM (MQJVv)
Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2025 11:48 AM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (Q8Bj
You left out that they are also arrogant, violently partisan, and unwavering committed to their point of view.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:48 AM (D7oie)
https://mol.im/a/14341283
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, una tragedia
https://is.gd/zhG4kT
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:49 AM (exHjb)
Kamala will last in 2026 until she starts talking again and people remember her vast ignorance and goblet-goop thinking.
She's too freaking lazy to start now at a run and train herself to no giggle like a retard and learnt speak clear and cleanly about normal people issues, buuuuut she won't.
Now, if she could only blow her way to Preezyhood, she'd be a shoe-in.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 11:49 AM (iJfKG)
‘ Um, when legislation is passed and signed by the executive, yes, they can. ’
It better pass with a veto proof majority.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 30, 2025 11:49 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:49 AM (Q8Bj8)
Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (aBgBM)
-Georges-Jacques Danton
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (xCA6C)
And Robespierre still took his head off for being a possible political rival
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (iZHkp)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM
There is, how you say, iron in the words of Aetius451AD for all Morons to see.
Posted by: Paolo at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (a3Q+t)
Mel Brooks scene where all politicians literally say is "bullshit" was on point
harumph
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (HYKHz)
Guess who beats her nearest competitor for the '28 Donk nomination by better than 3 to 1.
https://is.gd/M6uqE3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
Fortunately, she only lost due to widespread racism and misogyny. Four years of celebrities and the media telling everyone that they're pieces of shit for not voting for a proud "black" woman will provide a groundswell of support that'll have the Democrats cackling.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
I think the magic words are "no jurisdiction"
Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (hB7mE)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (bKqAu)
With the exception of MLK birthday I'm thinking this is great!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (W/lyH)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (iJfKG)
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She has an odd combination of man face and resting bitch face
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 11:51 AM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Virginia SoCon
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"Presidentially appointed IGs can only be removed, or terminated, from their positions by the President of the United States, whereas designated inspectors general can be terminated by the agency head. However, in both cases Congress must be notified of the termination, removal, or reassignment." From wiki btw.
Congress cannot limit the president from firing those who are presidential appointees period. They are considered major officers of the US and thus Congress has no power to limit removal. They are NOT agents of Congress like the CBO, or some of the regulatory agencies like the FTC, FCC, etc.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:51 AM (ctrM5)
Dipshit Reporter: Mr. President, you were inaugurated 10 days ago, you issued an EO two day's ago directing for operational excellence in all of Government, sir, does this crash mean your order is ineffective?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:52 AM (XV/Pl)
If this is becoming a dog thread, Hebrew National all beef. Freezes like a champ, you can bust out individual frozen dogs pretty easily, and freezer to micro to mouth 45 seconds.
Posted by: From about That Time at January 30, 2025 11:52 AM (4780s)
Posted by: scampydog at January 30, 2025 11:52 AM (2bFN5)
Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2025 11:52 AM (PCK5/)
What's CBD's position on pouring maple syrup on Chuck U. Schumer?
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (2ocoG)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (tT6L1)
And given that Trump has admitted he has no idea who they were, how can you argue that they were fired for cause? In this case, he needed to just go through the process, take 30 days and be done with it. No martyrs, no risk of legal setbacks that can get used in other cases as precedent.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:45 AM (a/dOO)
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Honest question.
Suppose the IG didn't recommend anything in the Boar's Head case (or any other time...)?
I think the "Should Have Known" falls squarely on management, but the "Should Have Inspected and Recommended" is IG?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (PzXaK)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Bat people aren't correct very often, but I must compliment your insight here. NJ is just the dirty, stained, mattress of NYC, afterall.
Posted by: Penguin Pete at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (G5+As)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (ufFY8)
Dipshit Reporter: Mr. President, you were inaugurated 10 days ago, you issued an EO two day's ago directing for operational excellence in all of Government, sir, does this crash mean your order is ineffective?
And just how many eggs did we lose in the crash, and what will that do to already sky-high egg prices under your administration?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (xCA6C)
‘ Hot dogs taste llike shit, mkay.’
I’m going to have to take your word for that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (jbnUc)
Ouch!!!
Posted by: tubal at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 11:47 AM (exHjb)
I'm trying to go through their reports to see. The IG reports to the Secretary of Agriculture and Congress. They don't send reports directly to the president, nor would any president want to receive them.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:54 AM (a/dOO)
Posted by: PaleRider at January 30, 2025 11:54 AM (34pOu)
>>So, it looks like Trump is saying ATC wasn't great, but the helicopter pilots were probably at the wrong height (not sure who's fault that is b/c the plane was at standard entry height) and should have visually moved the damn copter...
It's all going to boil down to, who was controlling the airspace, what was the flight plans for the aircraft, what were the instructions to the aircraft, etc.
This investigation should really be able to be wrapped up in a couple of weeks tops.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:54 AM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 30, 2025 11:54 AM (wBaIH)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (PzXaK)
That is better than the scenario where the IG does something like "this is what you need to assure happens so we don't have to inspect any more"
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (D7oie)
Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (W/lyH)
Until then, Trump should zip it.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Common Tater
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Going from memory, less than 10. Most of them resign when facing jail, etc. Last spate of them was in the late 80's and 90's.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: SMOD at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (RHGPo)
I love PDT, but this is ugh at this instant.
Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 11:43 AM (aBgBM)
He must know something that isn't yet being reported by the news talking heads.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (g8Ew8)
For example:
Fourteen members of the figure skating community were passengers on an American Airlines jet that collided with an Army helicopter near Ronald Reagan National Airport and crashed into the Potomac River in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday, according to Skating Club of Boston executive director Doug Zeghibe.
From what I have seen in videos, it seems the plane was on its correct landing flight pattern and got hit from the side by the helicopter. That would suggest to me that the helicopter hit the plane. Yet almost everywhere I read about this, they describe it as the plane hitting the helicopter.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (P5BPp)
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One thing that has always been true, the Left really loves it when Americans die.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:33 AM (a/dOO)
Bullshit. Nothing in the Constitution grants Congress the authority to create unfirable executive branch employees:
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (lDb3Z)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
Yes, actually. 'The Gift of Fear' describes why it's optimal. The employee leaves with others about the same time so the impact of being fired is somewhat lessened. Everyone should read that book.
Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (2ocoG)
Waste of good maple syrup. That's why we keep jugs of used motor oil around.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM (8zz6B)
What's CBD's position on pouring maple syrup on Chuck U. Schumer?
Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM
Does this syrup scenario also include fire ants?
In that case, I suspect CBD would approve.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM (HlyYF)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Trump could pull off starting a presser acting like Biden, complete with handlers, binder showing which reporters to ask for pre-cleared questions, mumbling, etc...only to then snap out of it and be himself.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM (kTd/k)
Astaire starred with Caron in Daddy Long Legs, another May/December movie where his love interest is young enough to be his daughter. I finally saw the play version of that, and the guy cast was so much younger! It really changed the entire dynamic, to have him closer to her age.
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM (WKUUp)
Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM (Q8Bj8)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM (ufFY8)
https://tinyurl.com/2s37j6m6
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
My beloved son Beau died in a Blackhawk flying near burn pits in Iraq, you know. I'll never forget...
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (JCZqz)
Honestly I don't think the fired people are going to sue and risk that. They'll probably get better mileage out of making it a political issue, and frankly they are probably right.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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Some will sue most likely. Remains to be seen whether they settle as Trump can do that with removal acceptance as part of the conditions of the settlement.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (ctrM5)
He said no, but he would promise to fire only those who are not doing their job.
This is the way. Part of the Job is to follow policy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (xCA6C)
Why? I've noticed that you don't seem to think that Trump is doing anything right.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (g8Ew8)
We don't live in a perfect world. I hate it but it's how it is. He understands the fight and the opponent better than practically anyone.
The moment they get a shred of daylight they will Katrina their way back to power.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (+iIV1)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (xG4kz)
With the exception of MLK birthday I'm thinking this is great!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2025 11:50 AM (W/lyH)
MLK was a Communist front man and a sexual degenerate; his birthday should never have been a holiday to begin with, and its enshrinement as one was an early example of DEI; he only got elevated to the undeserved honor because he was (1) black, and (2), safely dead, so he couldn't embarrass the feds with his otherwise inevitable descent into scandal and hucksterism.
Posted by: Wiese at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (1pand)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM (LkLld)
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Umm, could you be a bit more specific? We talking Maize, Warren or Schiff?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (tT6L1)
Statement from Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack on the Appointment of Phyllis Fong as the Acting Inspector General of the Federal Housing Finance Authority
Published: July 30, 2021
In part, "WASHINGTON, July 30, 2021 — Today, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack released the following statement regarding the appointment of Phyllis Fong as Acting Inspector General of the Federal Housing Finance Authority. Fong will continue to serve as the IG for the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) while she serves as the Acting FHFA IG."
During C19, too.
>Then, Meet the Inspector General, FHFA Inspector General Brian M. Tomney
Brian M. Tomney was nominated by President Joe Biden and confirmed by the U.S. Senate to serve as Inspector General for the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA). Sworn into office on March 14, 2022, Mr. Tomney is the third Senate confirmed Inspector General for FHFA.
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"Prior to serving as Inspector General, Mr. Tomney served as the Head of the Office of Corporate Investigations at Capital One...."
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Posted by: L - No nic day at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)
The Feed, Last Updated: 29 January, 2025
>And, Reuters Exclusive: USDA inspector general escorted out of her office after defying White House, By Rachael Levy, January 29, 2025
So Phyllis is the or a test case, and more.
Posted by: L - No nic day at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:58 AM (xCA6C)
There was no immediate word on the cause of the collision, but officials said flight conditions were clear as the jet coming from Wichita was making a routine landing when the helicopter flew into its path.
If that is the case, that would suggest the plane did indeed hit the helicopter. Granted, only because the helicopter flew into its landing flight path.
Is there anything anywhere this morning confirming if the Helicopter hit the plane from the side or, as stated here, the helicopter flew in front of the plane's landing flight path and the plane hit the helicopter?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (P5BPp)
@bennyjohnson
BREAKING: Trump appoints Christopher Rocheleau as acting commissioner to the FAA.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (NpAcC)
What's this "choir", to which Maisie the Dolt keeps returning.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: MkY at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (+Pp+Q)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (P5BPp)
Watch these two videos and listen to the audio.
https://tinyurl.com/4yyzrucr
https://tinyurl.com/28365je2
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (iODuv)
@disclosetv 2m
NOW - German police forces gather at the CDU party HQ in Berlin amid fears of far-left riots.
Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM
Probably needs to lay off of the firewater.
She didn't start with enough brain cells to get away with any impairment.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (HlyYF)
There isn't much speculation. The helicopter was asked if he saw the jet, and instructed to go behind the jet. He either mistook something else for the jet, or some other mistake ... (unless it was intentional, which seems unlikely).
The expert I heard said that bright light is not very visible from the side. The jet was on its normal approach.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 11:30 AM (a/dOO)
No, it isn't.
A President can't sign away his constitutional executive powers and constrain all following presidents. You need to amend the constitution, not pass a law.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (N1DT3)
Posted by: LizLem at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (gWBY1)
Patel, Gabbard and RFK,Jr all testifying live.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (cjAAr)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 11:55 AM (xCA6C)
Why? I've noticed that you don't seem to think that Trump is doing anything right.
I've made numerous statements on this site praising what Trump has done. Sorry if that doesn't fit with your predetermined attitude.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (+iIV1)
I prefer her in a bikini, however.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 30, 2025 11:57 AM
You want Tulsi in a bikini.
You'd settle for Joni in a bikini.
You'll get Susan Collins and Nancy P. in bikinis.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (kTd/k)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 30, 2025 11:56 AM (kTd/k)
It is reassuringly normal for the upper-class and university educated voters in Massachusetts since it reminds them of all their mothers, aunts, teachers and daughters.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 12:00 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: WisRich at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (G0vdT)
A President can't sign away his constitutional executive powers and constrain all following presidents. You need to amend the constitution, not pass a law.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (N1DT3)
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We've gotten way too used to unconstitutional laws being accepted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
https://tinyurl.com/4yyzrucr
https://tinyurl.com/28365je2
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM
Thanks, I'll check these out.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (P5BPp)
>>So, it looks like Trump is saying ATC wasn't great, but the helicopter pilots were probably at the wrong height (not sure who's fault that is b/c the plane was at standard entry height) and should have visually moved the damn copter...
It's all going to boil down to, who was controlling the airspace, what was the flight plans for the aircraft, what were the instructions to the aircraft, etc.
This investigation should really be able to be wrapped up in a couple of weeks tops.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 11:54 AM (XV/Pl)
Daily Mail has a story reporting Reagan ATC comm with fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft are on different frequencies. So the helo wouldn't real-time hear the AA plane's runway change and the AA plane didn't real-time hear comm to the helo. True? A factor if true? We'll find out.
Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (aBgBM)
Until then, Trump should zip it.
Posted by: Archimedes
If I've learned anything from watching the Left, it's that you say what you WANT the outcome to be, loudly, defiantly, and repeatedly, to get it settled into the public consciousness. By the time the official results come out, no one will care and the media will be focused on the next Trump outrage.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (JCZqz)
A veritable Cerberus of stupid.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: From about That Time at January 30, 2025 12:01 PM (4780s)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 12:02 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: From about That Time at January 30, 2025 12:02 PM (4780s)
Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 12:02 PM (xCA6C)
Guess who beats her nearest competitor for the '28 Donk nomination by better than 3 to 1.
https://is.gd/M6uqE3
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)
Incorrect interpretation of the poll. What it says is that 67% of Democrat voters want someone other than Kamala to be on the ticket in 2028, although they haven't coalesced on who that is to be yet.
I think Wes Moore looks likely, none of the baggage of the past. Some think Josh Shapiro, but there is no way today 's Dem party nominates a Jew.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2025 12:02 PM (wyMQY)
Whoopi Goldberg Says Trump’s Press Secretary Got Her Job Because of “Wokeness”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 12:02 PM (L/fGl)
**************
Up to 100% until companies get their shit together and move their chip manufacturing to the US
makes sense, I would prefer to see everything in house rather than seeing all the chips that power 99% of our tech remain on an island China wants to conquer
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - China is Assho And Void of Freedom Loving Wagshambas at January 30, 2025 12:03 PM (HYKHz)
Posted by: Cheek To Cheek at January 30, 2025 12:04 PM (G5+As)
A President can't sign away his constitutional executive powers and constrain all following presidents. You need to amend the constitution, not pass a law.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM (N1DT3)
Exactly. Imagine it this way: let’s say in 2028 the GOP loses the White House but keeps Congress. Could Trump and the GOP Congress rush through legislation that hires 1 million Trump loyalists to undermine the next administration, with explicit law they cannot be fired and that all positions must be filled solely by Trump loyalists?
If not, why not?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 30, 2025 12:04 PM (lDb3Z)
Posted by: L
Not really. Since the 1978 IG law was passed, multiple presidents have fired a bunch of IGs as a group. That is why Congress attempted to put a 30 day report requirement. But, because most of the IGs at issue are presidential appointees, past caselaw indicates that Congress cannot impose conditions on a president for their removal as major officers of the US.
Sort of similar how Congress has put reporting requirements on the War Powers Act that presidents have ignored in the past. Statute never trumps Constitutional powers so the courts usually try to interpret a statute to be congruent with the Constitution rather than assuming Congress passed an unconstitutional law by either eliminating a troublesome provision or by indicating something like the president can remove immediately but has to report the removal to Congress within 30 days.
Posted by: whig at January 30, 2025 12:05 PM (ctrM5)
Suppose the IG didn't recommend anything in the Boar's Head case (or any other time...)?
I think the "Should Have Known" falls squarely on management, but the "Should Have Inspected and Recommended" is IG?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 11:53 AM (PzXaK)
Department of Agriculture OIG has to address everything that the Agriculture department handles, including Food Stamps, Financial Management, etc. So, I don't know how many people they have directly assigned to USDA nutrition.
It is their top goal, according to their semi-annual report to Congress.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at January 30, 2025 12:05 PM (a/dOO)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 30, 2025 12:06 PM (Vh9CX)
It's pretty shocking how stupid and bad at their job most Congress Critters are.
This is pitiful.
How in the world do they manage to get elected?
I'm beginning to believe most of these a-holes are Harvey Weinsteined into power, given the backing, money, and power to run only after banging or blowing the right member of Their Betters.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 12:07 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Bob and Bob at January 30, 2025 12:08 PM (jGJov)
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Yesterday, spokesperson Leavitt said that they were going to pursue new policies rigorously.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2025 12:10 PM (l4pwx)
This is pitiful.
How in the world do they manage to get elected?
I'm beginning to believe most of these a-holes are Harvey Weinsteined into power, given the backing, money, and power to run only after banging or blowing the right member of Their Betters.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 12:07 PM (iJfKG)
Most of the electorate pays zero attention to any form of politics until they receive the ballot sample in the mail. Many vote as if they're judging a popularity contest. Sadly, many women I knew through the years use the phrase, "I like him/her. He/she seems nice". Soooo, the congress critters get elected because of an ignorant electorate. OR, they vote for someone who can bring home the bacon, like The Turtle™.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 30, 2025 12:11 PM (iODuv)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 30, 2025 11:59 AM
This video and some of the comments were extremely helpful, thank you.
Confirms what I have read and seen elsewhere that, for whatever reason, this is being reported incorrectly in the news. The helicopter flew into the plane, not the other way around.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 30, 2025 12:21 PM (P5BPp)
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