Deep State Operative Reveals How "Sophisticated Bureaucrats" Can Decieve and Waylay "Unsophsticated Political Appointees" That Trump Puts Into Office

An example he gives of how bureaucrats will "crush" RFKJr.: they'll set up a fake commission to "study" one of his issues, like fluoridation in the water.

But the fake commission will grind on for years, doing nothing, and effectively stopping all action on RFKJr.'s order, because, you know, we have to wait for the results of the "study."

This guy, caught in a James O'Keefe Bumble-Date Sting, also admits: "the Deep State, to some extent, is real." He admits the bureaucracy serves its own interests, by fighting back against cuts to their budgets, for example.

WOW. The DEEP STATE is PLANNING TO SABOTAGE RFK Jr.

“RFK Jr. is a very bad pick for HHS… there’s probably a good chance that the bureaucracy just crushes him…”

“A fake commission will make RFK Jr. think something is happening when it's not…” pic.twitter.com/drDZ8eZLSX
— Liz Churchill (@liz_churchill10) January 23, 2025

Trump won't be so easily had, took, run amok, led astray, bamboozled this time around. He's set up a tip line asking bureaucrats who support him to report on bureaucrats who subvert his anti-DEI policy by such tactics as just dropping the "DEI" from a DEI hire's title.

Seth Dillon
@SethDillon
"We are aware of efforts by some in government to disguise these programs by using coded or imprecise language."
No surprise there. It's how leftists disguise all their shameful behavior. Child mutilation is "gender affirming care." Child murder is "reproductive freedom." Etc.

The ATF just rebelled against the elected president of the United States by evading his order cancelling all DEI efforts. They took an employee with the title "Head of DEI Office" and just dropped "DEI" from her title, making her, nonsensically, the "Head of Office," whatever that means.

Which office? Can't say. Just some office, somewhere, doing something.

Fire the leadership of the ATF.

Trump is dismantling sixty years of racist hiring practices by the US government.

As part of his flurry of initial executive actions, President Trump released an executive order titled "Ending Illegal Discrimination and Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity." It is no mere public relations statement but a long and carefully drafted order that, if upheld and properly executed, will eliminate the blight of racially preferential treatment in the federal government; it also seeks boldly (and likely less successfully) to eliminate it from our culture at large by applying indirect pressure.

he order is truly sweeping in its breadth; its immediate effect is to uproot with one stroke the vast bulk of the federal infrastructure of affirmative action and DEI protocols and hiring practices. This is an edifice that was built up painstakingly over decades by one Democratic executive order after another, dating all the way back to the Johnson administration's infamous 1965 Executive Order 11246, which first established "affirmative action" as a necessary criterion in government hiring and contracting decisions: Any company doing business with the federal government from that day forward has been required to comply with what the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission deems to be racially equitable in terms of hiring, salary, or promotion practices, or else take their case to court.
Now it is no more. E.O. 11246 has been repealed, along with four other Obama- and Clinton-era orders which implemented it. Companies contracting with the federal government will no longer be required by the Department of Labor to address racial or sexual "underrepresentation" with formal affirmative action plans. The federal government will now be commanded to immediately cease promoting "diversity," cease "holding Federal contractors and subcontractors responsible for taking 'affirmative action,'" and cease "allowing or encouraging Federal contractors and subcontractors to engage in workforce balancing based on race, color, sex, sexual preference, religion, or national origin."

...
Trump also makes clear his intent to apply painful public and government pressure on private-sector DEI practices as well, and does not cloak his reasons. As part of a section explicitly titled "Encourage the Private Sector to End Illegal DEI Discrimination and Preferences," the order directs agency heads to compile lists of public companies, universities, and large foundations in order to name and shame "the most egregious and discriminatory DEI practitioners in each sector of concern" and consider civil-compliance investigations and possible civil action over their DEI programs. Furthermore, Section 5 of the E.O. puts higher education on notice that these rules will be applied to any college or university that receives federal grant money or participates in the federal student-loan assistance program -- functionally speaking, every major university in America. (The order specifically states the Trump administration's intent to force colleges to comply with the Supreme Court's ruling in Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard (2023), the landmark case striking down racial discrimination in public and private college admissions.)
Naturally, several aspects of this momentous executive order will be fiercely litigated. But expect the bulk of it to stand, and stand as a major achievement for Trump's second term. The government's ruinous racial policies over the past half century were created primarily by executive order, not legislation, and what was done with the mere stroke of a presidential pen can be undone by the same means.

Posted by: Ace at 01:26 PM

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Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 01:26 PM (fwDg9)

2 Morning

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

3 Nice

Posted by: Doof at January 23, 2025 01:27 PM (gEQYA)

4 That's the first good video from O'Keefe's enterprise I've seen in years.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:27 PM (g47mK)

5 "Oh, you didn't do what I asked? Your FIRED!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

6 >>>But the fake commission will grind on for years, doing nothing, and effectively stopping all action on RFKJr.'s order, because, you know, we have to wait for the results of the "study."

Attach a dude date for the commission report. Fire those who do not perform to expectations.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:28 PM (i24o9)

7 It's really hard for me to come up with a convincing argument against anyone who thinks that bullet missing Trump (the head turn) was Divine Intervention.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 01:28 PM (mg05v)

8 I repeat:

Civil Service laws that protect unelected and unappointed bureaucrats from firing by the chief executive or his appointed officers are deeply unconstitutional and unAmerican.

It's well established that presidents can fire political appointees, even though Congress had a say in their hiring, but the chief executive can't fire anyone below those appointees?

Seriously...what the fuck? And it's been accepted for about 140 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

9 Bumble-Date Sting? Is that like Honey Trap ??

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (g47mK)

10 Seems to my President Trump's first administration had appointments had dragging anchors

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (fwDg9)

11 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (jbnUc)

12 >>>"Head of Office,"

Wasn't that Kamala's position?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (i24o9)

13
So Brat Ace: "Trump won't be so easily had, took, run amok, led astray, bamboozled this time around."

How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (FLFnM)

14 Things sure are different this time around. Like the old saying Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Posted by: ALH is a girl at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (+HzbQ)

15 President Trump has had FOUR LONG YEARS to draft up all this stuff without anyone in the media looking over his shoulder.

No doubt the best legal minds he can assemble have looked over these and made sure every "i" is dotted and every "t" is crossed.

Some will meet with legal challenges, of course, such as the EO on birthright citizenship.

But you can bet the vast majority of these will pass legal muster no problem.

Good luck fighting against it, bureaucrats!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (7fElN)

16 "The ATF just rebelled against the elected president of the United States by evading his order cancelling all DEI efforts. They took an employee with the title "Head of DEI Office" and just dropped "DEI" from her title, making her, nonsensically, the "Head of Office," whatever that means.

Which office? Can't say. Just some office, somewhere, doing something.

Fire the leadership of the ATF."

This is fraud. They should be fired for that alone.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (0TZUr)

17 11 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (jbnUc)

Gaussian curve of intelligence in the bureaucracy. Also, horny bastards whose blood leaves the top head while they're talking.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

18 Guess what? I got three replies, one funny, one about soul food that was incoherent, and one that asked if I was "triggered". What was more insane was the fact that my question was downvoted to -23.

it truly was.

and do you wonder now why somehow Biden didn't pardon himself, or his puppet master Barry? they failed. they promised the Deep State PDJT would die that day.

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

19 Ratcliffe (CIA) will be confirmed today.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (g47mK)

20 ***But the fake commission will grind on for years, doing nothing, and effectively stopping all action on RFKJr.'s order, because, you know, we have to wait for the results of the "study."***

Little shit does not understand how this 'New Era' thing works.
He will learn.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (TtkQJ)

21 12 >>>"Head of Office,"

Wasn't that Kamala's position?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (i24o9)

she just gave head.

Posted by: ALH is a girl at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (+HzbQ)

22 Haven't they figured out O'Keefe's MO yet? If they are that dumb, how were they beating us for so long?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (1bNHn)

23 Fire the leadership of the ATF."

just cut the entire agency

AFUERA

it is time

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

24 12 >>>"Head of Office,"

Wasn't that Kamala's position?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (i24o9)

She handled Willie Brown's staff when he was mayor.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

25 Why does every single one of these idiots getting caught in these stings look and talk exactly the same? It's always a pencil-necked homo (or homo-adjacent) soy-boy beta wimp whose underwear is still crunched up his asscrack from all the weggies he got as a kid.

Is there nobody else working in DC?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (iFTx/)

26 11 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Honey traps are the oldest form of espionage.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (j4U/Z)

27 19 Ratcliffe (CIA) will be confirmed today.
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (g47mK)

=======

$5 says the CIA has been operating in US borders, against its charter, for decades.

If Ratcliffe doesn't out that, he's a cuck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

28 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (jbnUc)
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People LOVE to brag about what they do, because it makes them feel important.

He's very good at finding people who can get others to open up about their shady shenanigans.

Those people are DYING to let others know about it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (7fElN)

29 How does that old saying go?

When the government fears the people....

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (a1415)

30 This clown has got to be a homo, no? I hear a girl's voice as the honeypot, but still. Homo.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (iFTx/)

31 13
So Brat Ace: "Trump won't be so easily had, took, run amok, led astray, bamboozled this time around."

How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (FLFnM)

Taken down the primrose path.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (ynpvh)

32 Bureaucracies or, really, any position of authority just shouldn't hire men. Men can't think with two heads at one time. O'Keefe can't reach women because women don't get this level of stupid horny.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (gKWVE)

33 Fire the leadership of the ATF."

This is fraud. They should be fired for that alone.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (0TZUr

Yep. Take down her boss, too.

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (2NXcZ)

34 Oh wow! A hot friendly chick is really in to me and wants to talk specifically about various details of my job. Should I do it!

Byron's brain: No. Damnit, we had to take CBTs about this very thing. You took training, tests. Walk away now.

Byron's lower brain: YES YES SHE WANTS US SAY ANYTHING DO IT DO IT NOW (kicks upper brain in its brain stomach)

Posted by: banana Dream at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Y6IkP)

35 20 Little shit does not understand how this 'New Era' thing works.
He will learn.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (TtkQJ)

=====

The Biden administration fought to make it easier to fire unwanted bureaucrats.

Few people remember this, but I believe it was when Sean Spicer was given a position at the end of Trump's term and Biden fought to fire him.

Biden won in court, and Spicer was glad. He didn't need the job. He needed the precedent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (GBKbO)

36 Content of your character, not the color of your skin, or how you give or take a penis.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (ufFY8)

37 Civil Service laws that protect unelected and unappointed bureaucrats from firing by the chief executive or his appointed officers are deeply unconstitutional and unAmerican.

It's well established that presidents can fire political appointees, even though Congress had a say in their hiring, but the chief executive can't fire anyone below those appointees?

Seriously...what the fuck? And it's been accepted for about 140 years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

Seriously, it's absurd. It is so rife for abuse, that I can't imagine anyone who defends this system is doing so with a straight face.

The "spoils system" as the progressive era Karens called it is preferable 10 out of 10 times.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (uCjyK)

38 23 Fire the leadership of the ATF."
just cut the entire agency
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Who here thinks alcohol, tobacco and firearms are bad things?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Wg6v7)

39 How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?
Posted by: Soothsayer
________

bumfuzzled

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 23, 2025 01:34 PM (Dm8we)

40 27 19 Ratcliffe (CIA) will be confirmed today.
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (g47mK)

=======

$5 says the CIA has been operating in US borders, against its charter, for decades.

If Ratcliffe doesn't out that, he's a cuck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

Um...enough has come out of their various US-centric operations starting in the 50's...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

41 O'Keefe can't reach women because women don't get this level of stupid horny.
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The DA of Fulton County has entered the chat.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 01:34 PM (azSra)

42 22 Haven't they figured out O'Keefe's MO yet? If they are that dumb, how were they beating us for so long?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 01:31 PM (1bNHn)

GOPe = Controlled Opposition = Washington Generals

Posted by: browndog howling at January 23, 2025 01:34 PM (TTAGa)

43 RFK, Jr. doesn't have much choice. The Deep State knows where all the files are. RFK, Jr. knows what kind of people they are. They're gonna strip him naked and go to work on him with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. I'm glad we retired when we did. Blood makes us queasy.

Posted by: Bob And Shirley Chipeska, federal retirees at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (R/m4+)

44 The EO requiring federal workers to physically report for work in their offices will substantially reduce the "ground clutter" for future administrative compliance purposes.

Posted by: mrp at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (rj6Yv)

45 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (jbnUc)

------------------

That is baffling. Hi, I know we just met, but would you please tell me all your secrets?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (2UnvF)

46 $5 says the CIA has been operating in US borders, against its charter, for decades.

If Ratcliffe doesn't out that, he's a cuck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

I think Epps was CIA and not FBI, making the witness technically correct and Cruz a cuck for not following up.

Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (2NXcZ)

47 I bet she is a blonde!

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (g47mK)

48 In 8 days, we'll find out if Trump speaks Words of Iron or Words of Sand.

That was the deadline he gave to comply.
To identify:
All DEI hires
All DEI name changes
All DEI programs
All DEI contracts

He promised severe consequences to anyone who tries to evade his EO on DEI.

Developing ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (2k0oQ)

49 38 23 Fire the leadership of the ATF."
just cut the entire agency
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Who here thinks alcohol, tobacco and firearms are bad things?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Wg6v7)

Isn't that a chain of stores in the deep South?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

50
Fire them all.

From a cannon.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (wtvvX)

51 Echoes of the infiltration of the State Department and agencies by Reds during the 40's. All defended by the Democrats, of course.

I continue to hype the moron-recommended 'Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies'. It's a real eye-opener.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (XeU6L)

52 So Brat Ace: "Trump won't be so easily had, took, run amok, led astray, bamboozled this time around."

How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (FLFnM)

Snowed?

Conned?

Folderolled?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (i24o9)

53 5 "Oh, you didn't do what I asked? Your FIRED!"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

Private sector demands results.....

https://tinyurl.com/bd3abkuu+

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (N39Ws)

54 ATF seems to have given Trump a yuuuge golden opportunity here. Don't think he's named a boss of that outfit yet. Definitely needs to be a fire-breather, serious type.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (1m82a)

55 >>>I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Cla

"As your dick gets harder your brain gets softer." -- Fred Rogers

Posted by: ace at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (KRtlO)

56
Snowed?

Conned?

Folderolled?
Posted by: Comrade Flounder

Buffaloed?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (FLFnM)

57 Just think; if the Swamp Hive hadn't faked Out-To-Lunch Joe into office in 2020, AND released the lawfare Stasi on Donald Trump, he'd in all probability be freshly retired from two terms of President, and his second term very probably wouldn't have been as productive as the first 4 days of his current, back-from-Hell term.

But now he's back, he's motivated, and he's got the majority of presidential voters behind him. All thanks to The Smartest People In Any Room Anywhere.

Yay, team!

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (Ft5W9)

58 50
Fire them all.

From a cannon.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 23, 2025 01:36 PM (wtvvX)

Make it canon to fire them from a cannon.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

59 Attach a dude date ...
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,

* points and laughs

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (mlg/3)

60 And the EO ordering and an immediate federal hiring freeze is an additional incentive for supervisors to do what they're told to do.

Posted by: mrp at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (rj6Yv)

61 "Head of Office,"
Wasn't that Kamala's position?

Let's face it, she pretty much just blew off her duties and responsibilities.

Posted by: Sheriff Farley at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (QxEBj)

62 >>Bumble-Date Sting? Is that like Honey Trap ??

Yes. But there is a Vespa and a Messenger Bag.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (snN/i)

63 A seemingly hetero dupe this time. I was beginning to think maybe it really was just gays that fell for this stuff. Anyway, I would like to see what was left on the cutting room floor, loke what kind of game does a Harvard PhD bring to the dating scene?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (fs1hN)

64 22 Haven't they figured out O'Keefe's MO yet? If they are that dumb, how were they beating us for so long?
Posted by: Eeyore
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Persistence, reptilian brain, persistence. Rules, logic, intellect, rationality, anything in their path; common to civility does not matter.
They are predators and will fight the prey until the end.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (TtkQJ)

65 38 23 Fire the leadership of the ATF."
just cut the entire agency
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Who here thinks alcohol, tobacco and firearms are bad things?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Wg6v7)

For a TX MoMe? Nothing wrong with it.

As a federal agency - a blight

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (N39Ws)

66 43 RFK, Jr. doesn't have much choice. The Deep State knows where all the files are. RFK, Jr. knows what kind of people they are. They're gonna strip him naked and go to work on him with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch. I'm glad we retired when we did. Blood makes us queasy.
Posted by: Bob And Shirley Chipeska, federal retirees at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (R/m4+)

I don't think these idiots in DC truly appreciate the history here.

RFK Jr is convinced (and frankly, I think he's probably right) that the CIA / Deep State assassinated both his uncle and his father. And has publicly and openly stated it many times, and even given the names of who he thinks the shooters were.

He even went to bat for Sirhan Sirhan to get him out on parole, because he is convinced Sirhan was MKUltra'ed, and that none of the bullets he fired hit RFK Sr.

And we're to think that RFK Jr. is not aware of how DC works? I think he probably has a bit more insight in to that than your average bear.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (uCjyK)

67 Who here thinks alcohol, tobacco and firearms are bad things?
Posted by: Pudinhead

I saw a t-shirt at a gun show once that read:
"Alcohol,
Tobacco,
Firearms.
Who's bringing the chips?"

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (77rzZ)

68 Wierd, some rando was pooping on me when I said something very similar to this just yesterday.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (b4o9z)

69 61 "Head of Office,"
Wasn't that Kamala's position?

Let's face it, she pretty much just blew off her duties and responsibilities.

Posted by: Sheriff Farley at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (QxEBj)

That's because she sucked.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

70 Brandon Herrera for Head of ATF...and the sole employee of the department. Supply him with all the alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives for his YouTube channel.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (NUCav)

71 What's a "sophisticated bureaucrat"? Is that like a jumbo shrimp? A Golden Corral 6? A tall midget?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

72
Watch "Yes, Minister" to learn about bureaucratic inertia and resistance to change.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (dxSpM)

73 How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?
Posted by: Soothsayer
________

bumfuzzled
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Bamboozled

Posted by: Ross at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L)

74 Huh? What changed? Did something happen recently?

@LeadingReport 5m
BREAKING: Mexican military forces have begun constructing a large-scale migrant detention center in the border city of Matamoros, Tamaulipas, in preparation for the mass deportations announced by President Trump.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2025 01:39 PM (mlg/3)

75 Attach a dude date ...
Posted by: Comrade Flounder,

* points and laughs

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (mlg/3)

Dude don't deliver, dude is in the unemployment line.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:39 PM (i24o9)

76 There's a jaw-dropping nominee for AsstSecDef (MidEast), a lightweight Beltway drone who has railed against Trump's past MidEast policies and accomplishments. How such a creature got even one step into the vetting process is not just a mystery but one that needs to be solved/fixed.

Anyway, let's see if he survives.

Meanwhile, Gen. Brown/JCS Chairman absolutely and obviously needs to go. Well, Donald?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 23, 2025 01:39 PM (1m82a)

77 71 What's a "sophisticated bureaucrat"? Is that like a jumbo shrimp? A Golden Corral 6? A tall midget?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 23, 2025 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

Gay, with a fabulous sense of fashion.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

78 26 11 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Honey traps are the oldest form of espionage.
Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (j4U/Z)

Some dudes just can’t shut up about how important they (think) they are.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2025 01:39 PM (FGFJD)

79 60 And the EO ordering and an immediate federal hiring freeze is an additional incentive for supervisors to do what they're told to do.
Posted by: mrp
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Can't flood the zone. Can't hide.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (TtkQJ)

80
Anyone remember that cuck Drew M?

Another one of Ace's terrible choices. Anyway, remember when James OKeefe was setup and prosecuted, harshly, for "tapping phones" of that very corrupt "senator" mary landrieu?

Well, our very own DrewM joined our enemies in condemning OKeefe.

OKeefe served jail time for that.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (FLFnM)

81 Haven't they figured out O'Keefe's MO yet?

I imagine that O'Keefe himself is surprised that it keeps working. But as someone said, they're not sending us their best.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (/y8xj)

82 Watch "Yes, Minister" to learn about bureaucratic inertia and resistance to change.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

The first season is funny. The second is soul-crushingly depressing.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (mlg/3)

83
Things sure are different this time around. Like the old saying Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
Posted by: ALH is a girl at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (+HzbQ)

In this case, it's more along the lines of Ian Fleming's quip "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (y9nCu)

84 Yes. But there is a Vespa and a Messenger Bag.
Posted by: garrett

I found your comments on the 13th amendment on the last thread very interesting. And convincing.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (77rzZ)

85 >>Bumble-Date Sting? Is that like Honey Trap ??

Yes. But there is a Vespa and a Messenger Bag.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 01:37 PM (snN/i)

For half a block at least. Then, yard sale.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:40 PM (i24o9)

86 I think Epps was CIA and not FBI, making the witness technically correct and Cruz a cuck for not following up.
Posted by: Long night... darkness lifted. at January 23, 2025 01:35 PM (2NXcZ)

He was most likely working for someone.

The CIA is very opaque about who works for them, who doesn't, who is an operative, who is an informant, etc. etc.

People seem to float around military / CIA / FBI / NGO's / Organized Crime / Soldiers of Fortune / whatever.

It allows them to truthfully say "well, he wasn't on OUR payroll" because while a "former" CIA person organized the mission, the guys paycheck is coming from some Soros or Rockefeller NGO or some other third party.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:41 PM (uCjyK)

87 Meanwhile, Gen. Brown/JCS Chairman absolutely and obviously needs to go. Well, Donald?
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The JCS don't really command anything. Force Commanders do. JCS is basically a referee/teachers lounge.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:41 PM (Wg6v7)

88 It is no mere public relations statement but a long and carefully drafted order that, if upheld and properly executed, will eliminate the blight of racially preferential treatment in the federal government; it also seeks boldly (and likely less successfully) to eliminate it from our culture at large by applying indirect pressure.

I think this will be more successful than many think. Nobody really likes race preferences other than those who benefit directly from them, and those people don't want to self-identify. I mean, who wants to say "yeah, I'm a token race hire, because I'm not good enough to make it on merit".

The Overton Window has shifted.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (xCA6C)

89 Trump spent a miserable four years as the bureaucracy tried to jail and bankrupt him. They made it easier for assassins to try and kill him. Many of his inner circle and personal friends were ruthlessly persecuted. They invaded the sanctity of his home and even ransacked his wife's personal belongings. If they think this is the usual situation where a new broom can just be ignored, they are gravely mistaken.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (CwhoI)

90 and cease "allowing or encouraging Federal contractors and subcontractors to engage in workforce balancing based on race

Does "cease allowing or encouraging" mean the same thing as "prohibit"?

Please say yes, please say yes.

I hope Mastercard is paying attention.

Posted by: Half Dozen at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (uVHlT)

91 "The ATF just rebelled against the elected president of the United States by evading his order cancelling all DEI efforts."

ATF would be a good candidate for complete elimination. Anything they do that is absolutely necessary can be picked up by the states. They would be a good example to strike terror in the others.

Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (GUOwU)

92 When it comes to HHS, if anybody knows where the bodies are buried it is RFKj. The agency's 2020 budged was...$1.293 trillion ! All the worst miscreants fall under HHS - Food and Drug, Healthcare research, NIH and 20 other departments. You can see why they would not want RFKj there.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (g47mK)

93 Howdy Ace, Horde

Leftists don't understand that they're dealing with Trump 2.0 and 77 million plus MAGA voters who aren't playing their stupid games anymore.

Posted by: callsign claymore at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (Q2+8u)

94 86
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It allows them to truthfully say "well, he wasn't on OUR payroll" because while a "former" CIA person organized the mission, the guys paycheck is coming from some Soros or Rockefeller NGO or some other third party.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:41 PM (uCjyK)

Money Laundering.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (ynpvh)

95 Dissolve complete departments and start from scratch then.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (W2Pud)

96 91 "The ATF just rebelled against the elected president of the United States by evading his order cancelling all DEI efforts."

ATF would be a good candidate for complete elimination. Anything they do that is absolutely necessary can be picked up by the states. They would be a good example to strike terror in the others.
Posted by: Ripley at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (GUOwU)

======

Vance was talking about pushing for legislation to eliminate the ATF just a couple of days ago.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (GBKbO)

97
What would you suppose the percentage of federal employees of a certain age in DC are gay?

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (j4U/Z)

98 Trump is already putting hard deadlines in his EOs.

That is how his administration is going to operate.

You couldn’t complete this report in 90 days? You’re fired!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (XxG/N)

99 People LOVE to brag about what they do, because it makes them feel important.

He's very good at finding people who can get others to open up about their shady shenanigans.

Those people are DYING to let others know about it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (7fElN)

+++++
Spot on.

Posted by: washrivergal at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (C53IZ)

100 In this case, it's more along the lines of Ian Fleming's quip "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"
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This is an Auric Goldfinger quote.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (Wg6v7)

101 Some dudes just can’t shut up about how important they (think) they are.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 23, 2025 01:39 PM (FGFJD)

Well, he's trying to impress a (presumably) beautiful young lady he met on a dating app and is hoping to convince her to come home with him.

Kind of a trick as old as time, really.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (uCjyK)

102 >>I found your comments on the 13th amendment on the last thread very interesting. And convincing.

I hope you notice that I am mostly goofin' around.

But, I never really understood the express need for that Amendment once the Emancipation took place, as slavery was not codified in the founding documents.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (snN/i)

103
For Those Wondering Why OKeefe Still Snares These Shits In His Stings:

1. These Deep State Shits live in a Bubble. They only watch Fake News and hang around other Shits in their Bubble.

2. Same reason Chris Hansen never ran out of Pedos to be on his TV show.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (FLFnM)

104 >>Bumble-Date Sting? Is that like Honey Trap ??

Yes. But there is a Vespa and a Messenger Bag.
Posted by: garrett

Correct. Honey Trap, but faker and gayer.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (DgGvY)

105 Speaking of Melania's panty drawers, when are the agents involved in that miscarriage of justice going to be terminated with prejudice?

Posted by: ALH is a girl at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (+HzbQ)

106 >$5 says the CIA has been operating in US borders, against its charter, for decades.

no fucking way.

Posted by: mary meyer at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (rJ48h)

107 Brandon Herrera for Head of ATF...and the sole employee of the department. Supply him with all the alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives for his YouTube channel.

JD Vance said something about actually eliminating ATF entirely, but that's a strong second choice.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (NqGS/)

108 What would you suppose the percentage of federal employees of a certain age in DC are gay?
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If the general population is around 3%, then the federal population is probably...12%?

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (azSra)

109 O'Keefe pulls one on Leftists because they believe what they want yo believe

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (fwDg9)

110 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
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Shows you how pervasive it is and how comfortable they all are around one another.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 01:44 PM (mg05v)

111 What would you suppose the percentage of federal employees of a certain age in DC are gay?

Depends on the department. DoD? Probably very few. DoEd? Probably pretty high. State? All of them.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (xCA6C)

112 One thing the left has kept away from the American public is how much "affirmative action" and DEI--in practice--means "only black women get hired--regardless of qualification, training or experience."

And, once hired, can never be fired.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (2k0oQ)

113

This is a racket.

It is a means for many to make a lot of money with fake studies that go on and on, and get awards for shit they do.

Did they ever fix the water problem in Flint or was that just dropped after everyone got their piece?

Yeah.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (et1vG)

114 I am so happy reading posts like these. Thank you Ace.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (U9yly)

115 I still think that cabinet positions need to be spelled out in the Constitution. I would keep it at four: State, Defense/War, Treasury, and Interior.

You want any more new departments, you gotta pass an amendment to authorize it.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (77rzZ)

116 Doesn't ATF overlap with Justice Dept in...whatever it does ??

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (g47mK)

117 Yes. But there is a Vespa and a Messenger Bag.
Posted by: garrett
__________

I notice you didn't mention crocs.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (Dm8we)

118 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

Dude's gotta say something to impress he girl into dropping her shorts, and if his job is the only interesting thing about him...

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (hB7mE)

119 Technically, all race based hiring is illegal.

The media though has made it seem fringe that the law is actually enforced. Only bigots would say jobs qualifications should not be race based.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (4pwAx)

120 IIRC, there was an effort to disband the ATF and assign the agents to other LE agencies. All those agencies said they didn't want them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (2UnvF)

121 Read this one of those management books years ago.

The CEO of GM realized all those levers he thought he was pulling and knobs he was turning and switches he was flipping weren't actually connected to anything.

Kinda like that Close Door button in the elevator.

Posted by: Management Guru at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (DobEs)

122
Even though millions of people, including pedos, have seen Chris Hansen's tv show, To Catch A Predator, perverts will STILL continue to talk to anonymous "teens" on the Internet and take the risk it's a setup.

They're doing it today. They're doing it this very minute.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (FLFnM)

123 https://x.com/DataRepublican/
status/1881893718716010620

@Datarepublican is an X account I started following during the election season. She's a self-admitted autist and data nerd who used early voting data to try and model final results. She ended up being...really good at it.

Anyway, she has decided to use her time to focus on federal grants. Musk has already responded to one of her tweets which, as the head of DOGE which has an office in the WH, should quickly save $1 billion in funds.

She has a public tool ( https://t.co/8hhofBKj7N ) which one can use to dig through the data she's collating.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

124 Basically, hire project managers that know how to use MS Project, create a master RACI for all of the disparate projects, and adhere to time, task, milestones and the amount of good shit that can be achieved will be astounding.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (e4YHs)

125 Money Laundering.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (ynpvh)

Yeah, in a way. We have no idea what the CIA's budget is, it's classified. Same with all / most of the other 15 or whatever intelligence agencies (that we know of).

Shit, Allen Dulles funded his own quasi- CIA after WWII when the OSS was wound down with money he liberated from Europe in the immediate weeks after the end of the war. (Most people think it was money stolen from Germany / the Nazi's, which I guess makes it better somehow?)

And Nelson Rockefeller used to brag about how his NGO's funded off-the-books work by "our boys overseas" which could really only mean CIA (at least in that era).

So this has been going on forever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (uCjyK)

126 11 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 23, 2025 01:29 PM (jbnUc)

Makes you wonder what else we don't know from our fearless media... knowing this one group can find as much as they have.

Posted by: Inogame at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (53oGX)

127 Attach a due date for the commission report. Fire those who do not perform to expectations.
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1st Memo of every agency head:

Plans without deadlines are just dreams.

We fire dreamers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (2k0oQ)

128 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
==

It's like the classic honeypot strategy Russian spies used.

Betray your country after a few drinks and the chance for some action.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (4pwAx)

129 $5 says the CIA has been operating in US borders, against its charter, for decades.

If Ratcliffe doesn't out that, he's a cuck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)
_______________________________

SMOD posted on the ON last night about the United States v. Hasbajrami case handled up in NY. Essentially, they did surveillance on the guy without a warrant. The dude had terrorist ties and wasn't shy about it, but was a US Citizen. The courts finally ruled that surveillance without a warrant on a US citizen (through FISA) was a direct violation of the 4th Amendment. Obviously, the CIA would have been directly involved due to the target. So, there's likely an example of the CIA violating the US laws by using a relationship with the FBI to dilute the issue. Amusingly, this decision was made in the very beginning of Dec. but wasn't reported on or made public until just yesterday. Which suggests they sat on it to benefit the previous administration and likely the FBI and CIA.

Posted by: Orson at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (dIske)

130 Trump spent a miserable four years as the bureaucracy tried to jail and bankrupt him. They made it easier for assassins to try and kill him. Many of his inner circle and personal friends were ruthlessly persecuted. They invaded the sanctity of his home and even ransacked his wife's personal belongings. If they think this is the usual situation where a new broom can just be ignored, they are gravely mistaken.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 01:42 PM (CwhoI)

This is my take. I was talking to somebody about this last night. I said everything you did, and finished up with if you think trump is fucking around this time you're out of your mind. He's out for blood.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (VwHCD)

131 >>IIRC, there was an effort to disband the ATF and assign the agents to other LE agencies. All those agencies said they didn't want them.

The ATF is the bottom of the Barrel as far as agents go. Even the DEA guys talk shit about the ATF.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (snN/i)

132 Things may seem to be going too slow for us but for those automatons, the drones and the supervisors it's going so fast they can't keep ahead.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (TtkQJ)

133 Dude's gotta say something to impress he girl into dropping her shorts, and if his job is the only interesting thing about him...

For liberals, political power is the only interesting thing. So they're more than happy to project that onto any persons of the preferred sex they meet.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (NqGS/)

134 That is baffling. Hi, I know we just met, but would you please tell me all your secrets?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

That so needed a Carly Rae Jepsen sock.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (DgGvY)

135 So does the recision of affirmative action in contracting mean companies not run by women will stand a chance to compete?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (FCbAQ)

136 IIRC, there was an effort to disband the ATF and assign the agents to other LE agencies. All those agencies said they didn't want them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2025 01:46 PM (2UnvF)

To be fair, NOBODY wants to burn compounds full of children alive, at least not on the record.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (i24o9)

137 Received a copy of this official government message from a friend in the Department of the Interior. The purge has started.
https://tinyurl.com/bdejpwdu
https://tinyurl.com/5ctdeuks

This shouldn't be all that surprising after all, he said what he intended to do during the campaign.

Apparently the exact wording was on all the emails. Exact same wording sent out by all Department. It seems they were given the message and told to disseminate.

It was all pre-planned. Evil fucking monsters!!

I wish I could pack and move to Portugal. A Christian nationalist for OMB, an alcoholic for SOD, a vaccine denier for HHS, and Tulsi Gabbard for National Intel? This is just mind boggling.

The White House press corps. No organization dropped to their knees quicker than the "free" press! ABC gave him 15 million dollars and the rest of them couldn't get on their knees with their heads pressed to the ground fast enough!!!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (JCZqz)

138 DOGE has an office in the WH ?

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (g47mK)

139
"Hey Adam? This dude I met said Apples are really cool, and a great buzz, and I really think you'd be awesome if you took a bite."

That old.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (j4U/Z)

140 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (HUq5R)

141 I've got an easy solution to such shenanigans. Get caught evading, entire department has their budget zeroed out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (tT6L1)

142 So Brat Ace: "Trump won't be so easily had, took, run amok, led astray, bamboozled this time around."

How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:30 PM (FLFnM)

Taken down the primrose path.

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: The old okey-doke at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (xCA6C)

143 I hope Trump had his private security take fingerprints in Barron and Melania's closets. Hand them to Kash Patel, identify the muthafrickers, and fire them into Virginia on the Maga Trebuchet we should hope is built on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (U9yly)

144 Judge blocks Trump's Birthright citizenship order.

But....of course.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (a1415)

145 State? All of them.
Posted by: Archimedes

My dear boy . . .

Posted by: Prince Louis von Battenberg, first Earl Mountbatten of Burma at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (gKWVE)

146
Examples need to be made. A very public firing, with employees forced to clean out their desks and walked out the building. If they actually still work at a building.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (+oR7L)

147 The ATF just rebelled against the elected president of the United States by evading his order cancelling all DEI efforts. They took an employee with the title "Head of DEI Office" and just dropped "DEI" from her title, making her, nonsensically, the "Head of Office," whatever that means.

Office of Head?

We need one now that Kamala headed back to Cali.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (bss/y)

148 RFK Jr is convinced (and frankly, I think he's probably right) that the CIA / Deep State assassinated both his uncle and his father.

**************************************************

That's right; communists and 'Palestinians' had nothing to do with either one!

Posted by: MSM at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (gRVse)

149 137 It was all pre-planned. Evil fucking monsters!!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (JCZqz)

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Pre-planning firings is evil and monstrous!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

150 CJ Taft said it best in Myers v. US. "Upon an historical examination of the subject, the Court finds that the action of the First Congress, in 1789, touching the Bill to establish a Department of Foreign Affairs, was a clean-cut and deliberate construction of the Constitution as vesting in the President alone the power to remove officers, inferior as well as superior, appointed by him with the consent of the Senate; that this construction was acquiesced in by all branches of the Government for 73 years, and that subsequent attempts of Congress, through the Tenure of Office Act of March 2, 1867, and other acts of that period, to reverse the construction of 1789 by subjecting the President's power to remove executive officers appointed by him and confirmed by the Senate to the control of the Senate or lodge such power elsewhere in the Government were not acquiesced in, but their validity was denied by the Executive whenever any real issue over it arose. "

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (ctrM5)

151
Another example: Girls today are STILL sending noods over the phone/internet.

They will never learn....

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (FLFnM)

152 By supporting the end of DEI, O'Keefe is actually working against his own interests.

There will be fewer loose-lipped homos in government for him to wring info from. Not that it takes much wringing.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (DgGvY)

153 138 DOGE has an office in the WH ?
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (g47mK)

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I believe the phrasing I've seen is "in the WH complex", so it may be across the street.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (GBKbO)

154 120 You know what an FBI agent and an ATF agent have in common? They both applied to the FBI.

Posted by: callsign claymore at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (Q2+8u)

155 Basically, hire project managers that know how to use MS Project, create a master RACI for all of the disparate projects, and adhere to time, task, milestones and the amount of good shit that can be achieved will be astounding.

I want the feral government to suffer even more than that. JIRA. Scrum masters. Waterfall charts. Do it now.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (OyOhQ)

156 The clot shot mandate EO demonstrated that the (P)resident can, indeed, shitcan lowly, non-politically appointed federal employees at a whim. While an injunction prevented that from happening (wide-scale, at least), the courts considered the whole topic "moot" when shit-for-brains rescinded the EO and dismissed the anti-mandate lawsuit.

Nothing was settled.

The process is the punishment. Let's fucking goooooo.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (DTX3h)

157 137
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I wish I could pack and move to Portugal. A Christian nationalist for OMB, an alcoholic for SOD, a vaccine denier for HHS, and Tulsi Gabbard for National Intel? This is just mind boggling.
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Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (JCZqz)

Why? Don't allow pedophiles in Portugal?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

158 But, I never really understood the express need for that Amendment once the Emancipation took place, as slavery was not codified in the founding documents.
Posted by: garrett

I don't understand why, if they were going to prohibit slavery in every case except as punishment for a crime, they didn't attach penalties for doing it.

Unless they figured that being enslaved as punishment for illegally enslaving others would be the kind of punishment that any half-wit would see as logical extension of the principle.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (hB7mE)

159 Walter Cruickshank?!

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (g47mK)

160 Leftists assume the dope they just met is as radical as they are because where these people are from they usually are.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (mg05v)

161 I can’t believe how O’Keefe keeps finding these dumbshits who can’t keep their mouth shut.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
==

It's like the classic honeypot strategy Russian spies used.

Betray your country after a few drinks and the chance for some action.

Ah, the classics.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (xCA6C)

162 A close relative once worked at FEMA. A coworker of his - clearly a DEI hire - was working on a "report" for about 3 years. He showed up a day or two a week. "Worked" for a couple of hours and then left. This was long before Covid, so "working from home" was not a thing.

Posted by: Syracuse1989 at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (exm8+)

163 144 Judge blocks Trump's Birthright citizenship order.

But....of course.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice
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Necessary step to get it before Scotus.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (ctrM5)

164 >>>Few people remember this, but I believe it was when Sean Spicer was given a position at the end of Trump's term and Biden fought to fire him.

Biden won in court, and Spicer was glad. He didn't need the job. He needed the precedent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman
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Didn't see this the first time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (TtkQJ)

165 157 137
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I wish I could pack and move to Portugal. A Christian nationalist for OMB, an alcoholic for SOD, a vaccine denier for HHS, and Tulsi Gabbard for National Intel? This is just mind boggling.
...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (JCZqz)

Why? Don't allow pedophiles in Portugal?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

=======

Yeah, do get out, DUmmy.

Please. Go. Renounce your American citizenship. Become a citizen of the world.

Please.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (GBKbO)

166 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth
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Wanna guess how she voted on that fundamentally non-serious nominee for the Supreme Court, the one who admitted under oath that she didn't know what a woman was?

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (azSra)

167 34 Oh wow! A hot friendly chick is really in to me and wants to talk specifically about various details of my job. Should I do it!

Byron's brain: No. Damnit, we had to take CBTs about this very thing. You took training, tests. Walk away now.

Byron's lower brain: YES YES SHE WANTS US SAY ANYTHING DO IT DO IT NOW (kicks upper brain in its brain stomach)
Posted by: banana Dream at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Y6IkP)

Early on my dad taught me, "beware the approach." If anyone is approaching, calling, or otherwise initiating contact with you who you A) do not know and/or B) are not expecting, your guard goes up immediately.

It's shocking to me that these soyboys' first instinct isn't "WHO SENT YOU?"

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (/ZufQ)

168 140 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (HUq5R)

Murkowski got changes in election rules in AK so she could stay in the Senate. In the olden days, people like her were pushed out of of the village in the dead of winter.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (ynpvh)

169 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

What is OMB and who is the supposed Christian nationalist?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (R4OEO)

170 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth
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Wanna guess how she voted on that fundamentally non-serious nominee for the Supreme Court, the one who admitted under oath that she didn't know what a woman was?
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I hope Trump and Musk make it very clear that there will be *consequences* for such duplicity.

Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (azSra)

171 112 One thing the left has kept away from the American public is how much "affirmative action" and DEI--in practice--means "only black women get hired--regardless of qualification, training or experience."

And, once hired, can never be fired.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 01:45 PM (2k0oQ)

I think a lot of people have noticed that most federal employees they interact with seem to be non-white, and why that might be the case.

And like... a part of me gets it. Give good paying jobs that are impossible to be fired from to people that those in the government think would otherwise be unable to provide for themselves. Keeps them off welfare, and hopefully helps set up the next generation for success. Seems noble, right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (uCjyK)

172 I'm curious just how hot the girls working for O'Keefe are. They must be pretty impressive.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (1bNHn)

173 134 That is baffling. Hi, I know we just met, but would you please tell me all your secrets?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

That so needed a Carly Rae Jepsen sock.
Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 01:47 PM (DgGvY)

I hate that I know that reference ...

Posted by: browndog howling at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (TTAGa)

174 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth
Posted by: Grammie's phone

==

If true, Republicans just need to field a Democrat against her and just rip it off like a bandage and get skeletor out of there. Trump needs to just endorse a Democrat the next time around.

She's unbeatable in a primary and she knows it.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (4pwAx)

175 It was all pre-planned. Evil fucking monsters!!
======================

Yeah! Those evil monsters who hate racially based hiring and promotion! Who want efficient use of tax dollars! Those evil monsters!

This is so much fun.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (U9yly)

176 140 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM

Thune needs to pull her off of all committees, and regulate her to Time-out Siberia. Fuck her.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (+oR7L)

177
Necessary step to get it before Scotus

I believe this was the plan all along

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (HUq5R)

178 140 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth
Posted by: Grammie's phone
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She didn't get the bribe she wanted for a yes vote from Trump.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

179
It was all pre-planned. Evil fucking monsters!!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

LOLOLOL!

Translation: They were ready for us, this time!

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (FLFnM)

180 Oh wow! A hot friendly chick is really in to me and wants to talk specifically about various details of my job. Should I do it!

Byron's brain: No. Damnit, we had to take CBTs about this very thing. You took training, tests. Walk away now.

Byron's lower brain: YES YES SHE WANTS US SAY ANYTHING DO IT DO IT NOW (kicks upper brain in its brain stomach)

Our Precioussssss.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (xCA6C)

181 170 I hope Trump and Musk make it very clear that there will be *consequences* for such duplicity.
Posted by: Crusader at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (azSra)

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At this point, if I were Murkowksi who's survived two very strong primary attempts in the past 12 years or so, I'd feel pretty safe about flying my freak flag high.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

182

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (xCA6C)

183 By 5pm today, shouldn't that be Byron Cohen, Former White House Advisor?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (Aqu9a)

184 How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?

Hornswoggled

Posted by: FLanole at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (ZnrCl)

185 I'm curious just how hot the girls working for O'Keefe are. They must be pretty impressive.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (1bNHn)

It's James himself in a wig.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (VoAdT)

186 ATF is easily replaceable. Federal Level stuff goes to the FBI; instate stuff goes to the various State Police agencies. We have an internet now, it’s not hard for everyone to coordinate with each when required.

ATF is a useless and unnecessary duplication of efforts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (GvJdg)

187 There are days that I think I would prefer Trump to rule more like Daenerys Targaryen.

Not every day....

But some days.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (a1415)

188 from yesterday - Murk, Collins and McConnell are no on Hegseth. He still gets in with JD 's vote.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (g47mK)

189 I believe this was the plan all along
Posted by: Grammie's phone
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Yes, because the Court only considers actual legal disputes and does not issue advisory opinions.

They also take cases as a result of an appeal/writ of cert request from lower courts.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (ctrM5)

190 The only way I know of, actually two ways, to get Murkowski, Collins to have an epiphany is to punish them in DC, by fair means, or foul, or punish Alaska and Maine, in not too subtle ways…

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (PCK5/)

191 oh Archimedes ...

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (Pv3Rg)

192 Somehow Democrats got a liberal Senator for life with "Republican" Murkowski.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (4pwAx)

193 She's unbeatable in a primary and she knows it.
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (4pwAx)
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Didn't she lose a GOP primary, so she got her buddies to switch Alaska to an election system that allowed her to win?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (U9yly)

194
I don't think there are five people in Alaska that really want Lisa the Murk as their senator. But every six years she gets re-elected.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (dxSpM)

195 38 23 Fire the leadership of the ATF."
just cut the entire agency
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Who here thinks alcohol, tobacco and firearms are bad things?
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:33 PM (Wg6v7)
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Obviously, no one here. Make it the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Bewbs and the entire Horde could be hired to run it.

Posted by: Eeyore at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (1bNHn)

196 Interesting how stories like this - "how the deep state plans to upend Trump appointees" hit the presses (so to speak) AFTER the election. Nothing like fighting 10 electric car fires in one building with planes flying overhead dumping gasoline on the roof.

Posted by: Jeff B at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (qbmaU)

197 169 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

What is OMB and who is the supposed Christian nationalist?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (R4OEO)

Does the OMB monitor itself?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

198 Afternoon Ace. I would be surprised if the Deep State has O'Keefe followed and sends these people this way as fakes. If they're not doing that then our intelligence agencies are too stupid for words and should be disbanded

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (6v8aM)

199 why is Alaska still a state? revert it to province

... with Cali and Hawaii and Washington

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (Pv3Rg)

200 Murk is stupid. She and McConnell have a thing. She thinks he can protect her.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (g47mK)

201 193 She's unbeatable in a primary and she knows it.
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (4pwAx)
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Didn't she lose a GOP primary, so she got her buddies to switch Alaska to an election system that allowed her to win?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (U9yly)

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She's arguably lost both of her last two primaries.

But, she still won them and probably feels like she can overcome anything in Alaska.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

202 Popcorn, anyone?

@EndWokeness 3m
BREAKING: FBI and DHS raid the offices of Joseph Flynn, a top immigration lawyer in Providence, RI - sanctuary city.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (mlg/3)

203 from yesterday - Murk, Collins and McConnell are no on Hegseth. He still gets in with JD 's vote.
Posted by: runner
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Wasnt that rumored but not confirmed?

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (4pwAx)

204 I'm guessing Hegseth gets a yes vote by Fetterman.

Which means Murkowski's vote is irrelevant. Also assume someone will take the time to tell Murkoski she either gets in line or she can get out of line.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (tT6L1)

205 193 She's unbeatable in a primary and she knows it.
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (4pwAx)
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Didn't she lose a GOP primary, so she got her buddies to switch Alaska to an election system that allowed her to win?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (U9yly)

So make Alaska suffer until they get the point.

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (PCK5/)

206 Is Ranked Choice voting still the law in AK? That's what saved her ass last time she ran.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (eb5mD)

207 What is OMB and who is the supposed Christian nationalist?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 01:50 PM (R4OEO)

Office of Management and Budget, and don't know, but sounds promising.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (i24o9)

208 Let Buc-ee's take over ATF functions.

Next problem . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (Aqu9a)

209

Sen. Lisa Murkowski
@lisamurkowski
Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations, veterans, and Alaskans. After thorough evaluation, I must conclude that I cannot in good conscience support his nomination for Secretary of Defense. I did not make this decision lightly; I take my constitutional responsibility to provide advice and consent with the utmost seriousness.

I commend Pete Hegseth’s service to our nation, including leading troops in combat and advocating for our veterans. However, these accomplishments do not alleviate my significant concerns regarding his nomination. Managing the Department of Defense requires vast experience and expertise as the department is one of the most complex and powerful organizations in the world, and Mr. Hegseth’s prior roles in his career do not demonstrate to me that he is prepared for such immense responsibility. His leadership of two veteran organizations was marked with accusations of financial....

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (NpAcC)

210 175 It was all pre-planned. Evil fucking monsters!!
======================

Yeah! Those evil monsters who hate racially based hiring and promotion! Who want efficient use of tax dollars! Those evil monsters!

This is so much fun.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM (U9yly)

What also seems pre-planned: Some asshole shoots up a school, and Congress has a 1200 page bill ready to vote on within a day. How does that work?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (ynpvh)

211 It's James himself in a wig.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

My panties are soaked just thinking about it! (Ugh) 💦

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (JCZqz)

212 Cont..
mismanagement and problems with the workplace culture he fostered.

Although he has recently revised his statements on women in combat since being nominated, I remain concerned about the message that confirming Mr. Hegseth sends to women currently serving and those aspiring to join. Women have served our nation with distinction, overcoming immense obstacles to excel in combat and leadership roles, and they deserve to know that their leader honors and values their commitment to our nation.

While the allegations of sexual assault and excessive drinking do nothing to quiet my concerns, the past behaviors Mr. Hegseth has admitted to, including infidelity on multiple occasions, demonstrate a lack of judgment that is unbecoming of someone who would lead our armed forces. These behaviors starkly contrast the values and discipline expected of servicemembers. Men and women in uniform are held accountable for such actions, and they deserve leaders who uphold these same standards.

Above all, I believe that character is the defining trait required of the Secretary of Defense, and must be prioritized without compromise. The leader of the Department

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (NpAcC)

213 184 How about hoodwinked?

Flim flammed?

Shim shammed?

Hornswoggled

Posted by: FLanole at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (ZnrCl)

Kumala was an expert at hornswoggling.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (ynpvh)

214 204 I'm guessing Hegseth gets a yes vote by Fetterman.

Which means Murkowski's vote is irrelevant. Also assume someone will take the time to tell Murkoski she either gets in line or she can get out of line.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (tT6L1)

Yesterday they were still digging up stuff on him...He must really scare them

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (VE6XX)

215 What also seems pre-planned: Some asshole shoots up a school, and Congress has a 1200 page bill ready to vote on within a day. How does that work?

I will keep my mouth shut on this

but

I mean come on

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)

216 That's right; communists and 'Palestinians' had nothing to do with either one!
Posted by: MSM at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM (gRVse)

Correct. Also, seems highly unlikely that Oswald was a communist.

Not too many communists can renounce their citizenship, move to the USSR, live in luxury there, marry a local, have a baby, un-renounce their citizenship, have the state department pay for them to fly back to the US, and never get (officially) questioned or bothered by US authorities. Then of course support a family with seemingly no income for years before getting a job at a school book depository two weeks before allegedly killing a president.

Seems ... odd, no?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (uCjyK)

217 Heh. Just saw on Newsmax that Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (W2Pud)

218
She's arguably lost both of her last two primaries.

But, she still won them and probably feels like she can overcome anything in Alaska.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
==

That's why the Republicans need to just crossover and elect an actual Democrat in AK

Democrats will take a real liberal Democrat over a sometimes liberal Democrat.

It's like Obama vs McCain

then in 6 years, elect an actual new Republican Senator

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (4pwAx)

219 Lloyd Austin was confirmed by a 93-2 margin. Murkowski voted to confirm.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (2UnvF)

220 @181

>> At this point, if I were Murkowksi who's survived two very strong primary attempts in the past 12 years or so, I'd feel pretty safe about flying my freak flag high.

The GOP in Alaska have successfully engineered her into office until the Controlling Authorities of The Universe call her home.

As was said, kick her off all committees, and do whatever can be done to the extent possible to make her life in the Senate as difficult as possible.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (e4YHs)

221 185 I'm curious just how hot the girls working for O'Keefe are. They must be pretty impressive.
Posted by: Eeyore
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A lot of O'Keefe's targets are gay men becuz they hook up at a rate that would disturb love monkeys (bonobos).

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

222 Yesterday they were still digging up stuff on him...He must really scare them

They need a win. That's the extent of their thinking.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (xCA6C)

223 Bug protein bars are now available in europe.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (bz2GH)

224 Lot of money and grift go through Defense…

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (PCK5/)

225 215 What also seems pre-planned: Some asshole shoots up a school, and Congress has a 1200 page bill ready to vote on within a day. How does that work?

I will keep my mouth shut on this

but

I mean come on
Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)

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The ACA was written solely by Harry Reid starting in January 2009!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (GBKbO)

226
She's unbeatable in a primary and she knows it.
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:51 PM
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Didn't she lose a GOP primary, so she got her buddies to switch Alaska to an election system that allowed her to win?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM

So make Alaska suffer until they get the point.
Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM

this problem goes away once we repeal the Seventeenth Amendment

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (w9Ycv)

227 WTF Alaska ? Murkowski ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (VE6XX)

228 Being born in 1965 and having suffered under the governments affirmative action hiring policies when can I expect my reparations check??

Posted by: Fisht at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (BHEHK)

229 This Trump guy.

Amirite?

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (fV+MH)

230
Didn't she lose a GOP primary, so she got her buddies to switch Alaska to an election system that allowed her to win?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (U9yly)

Lost the GOP primary, then ran as a write-in, depending on Donk commie cocksucker votes combined with Daddy's friends in the GOP.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (y9nCu)

231 >>Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth

This just in, Trump has moved to change the name of Mt McKinnley to Mt Go Fuck Yourself Coke Bear.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (LkLld)

232 Obviously, no one here. Make it the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Bewbs and the entire Horde could be hired to run it.
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This man is a genius.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Wg6v7)

233 227 WTF Alaska ? Murkowski ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (VE6XX)

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Comment from 2002?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

234 It was all pre-planned. Evil fucking monsters!!

Ummm... Duh?

Posted by: Oddbob at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (/y8xj)

235 I remember that Biden changed the hiring rules for Federal workers to remove the preference for veterans. Has this been changed back yet?

Posted by: ALH is a girl at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (+HzbQ)

236 I hope you notice that I am mostly goofin' around.

But, I never really understood the express need for that Amendment once the Emancipation took place, as slavery was not codified in the founding documents.
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 01:43 PM (snN/i)

Something not codified plainly into law can be reinterpreted later and Lincoln wasn't having that. And he needed something for Southern states being returned to normal status to sign that said they yielded on that point.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (n7h9X)

237 Cont
of Defense must demonstrate and model the standards of behavior and character we expect of all servicemembers, and Mr. Hegseth’s nomination to the role poses significant concerns that I cannot overlook. Given the global security environment we’re operating in, it is critical that we confirm a Secretary of Defense, however, I regret that I am unable to support Mr. Hegseth.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (NpAcC)

238 This is my take. I was talking to somebody about this last night. I said everything you did, and finished up with if you think trump is fucking around this time you're out of your mind. He's out for blood.
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Trump today to the WEF-- the Who's Who of the world power elite.
Should be all diplomat-speak and cordial.

No fucks given. Several direct shots at them.

That happy face he has?
The joy of hearing the lamentations of their women as your enemies are driven before you.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (2k0oQ)

239 228 Being born in 1965 and having suffered under the governments affirmative action hiring policies when can I expect my reparations check??
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Yep. Me too.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (Wg6v7)

240 Suppose you change your job title to Head of Office. Next day Vivek and Elon show up like the two Bob's and ask, "what do you do around here?" Schedule DOGE interviews to start with the most recently created or renamed titles. And work backwards until you get to the New Deal.

Posted by: steve poling at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (J3cMN)

241 Murkowski is a no . Haven't seen anything to say that Mitch or Collins are a definite no on Hegseth. Roger Wicker did say that JD should stick around.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (6v8aM)

242 Byron Cohen.

Another dumb homo spills the beans.

Posted by: eleven at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (fV+MH)

243 Hail Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (aD39U)

244
It's more likely Collins and/or mcconnell vote for Pete than fetterman.

fetterman is totally full of shit, I suspect

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (FLFnM)

245 232 Obviously, no one here. Make it the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Bewbs and the entire Horde could be hired to run it.
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This man is a genius.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Wg6v7)

How best to enforce boob laws...Hmmm...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

246 @214

>> Yesterday they were still digging up stuff on him...He must really scare them

He’s an outsider and a disrupter, they are going to do what they can to thwart his appointment.

Nobody said, fundamental transformation would be easy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (e4YHs)

247 So how does Murk justify voting no on Hegseth?

Because he had an affair? Is that really what this is all about?

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (4pwAx)

248
Heh. Just saw on Newsmax that Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Give Murkowski a rifle and send her over there.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (63Dwl)

249 233 227 WTF Alaska ? Murkowski ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 01:56 PM (VE6XX)

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Comment from 2002?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO

I should have added again and again and again ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (VE6XX)

250 246 @214

>> Yesterday they were still digging up stuff on him...He must really scare them

He’s an outsider and a disrupter, they are going to do what they can to thwart his appointment.

Nobody said, fundamental transformation would be easy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (e4YHs)

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I suspect any major action at the top of the DOD, including any firing of Joint Chiefs officers, is waiting for his confirmation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

251 Yesterday they were still digging up stuff on him...He must really scare them
Posted by: It's me donna
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No, it was a patented late hit on a nominee by a disgruntled Dem associated ex inlaw. The ex-wife (no2 of Hegseth I think) alleged to have suffered domestic abuse said it was false and her lawyer would take legal action against those repeating the smear.

If for no other reason to disincentivize this sort of poo flinging by Dems, any late hit should be ignored. Hegseth's appointment was clear well over a month ago so plenty of time to present evidence instead of after a committee yes vote.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

252 Can I haz 40 acres and a mule?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (bz2GH)

253 I will keep my mouth shut on this

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (Pv3Rg)

Da, sometimes is best

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (mg05v)

254 Let Buc-ee's take over ATF functions.
Next problem . . .
Posted by: Count de Monet

Alcohol, tobacco, and flush toilets?

Posted by: SFGoth at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (KAi1n)

255 uppose you change your job title to Head of Office. Next day Vivek and Elon show up like the two Bob's and ask, "what do you do around here?" Schedule DOGE interviews to start with the most recently created or renamed titles.

This is wise. Start with the most recent job title changes.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (xCA6C)

256 What a cow.

Far too many words to say "No".

And still not enough to cover that skeletal coked up Willem Dafoe lookin ass.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (VoAdT)

257 We can't seem to ever get rid of Murkowski.
Maybe we should send Scott Presler to Alaska

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:00 PM (NpAcC)

258 I doubled McConnell's estates in Macau. Murkowski turned ... for much less. I don't know who this .. Collins .. is.

Posted by: Xi Jinping at January 23, 2025 02:00 PM (aD39U)

259 245 232 Obviously, no one here. Make it the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Bewbs and the entire Horde could be hired to run it.
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This man is a genius.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (Wg6v7)

How best to enforce boob laws...Hmmm...
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Firm support?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 02:00 PM (Wg6v7)

260 Office of Management and Budget, and don't know, but sounds promising.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 01:54 PM (i24o9

It's apparently someone named Russell Vought who is-of course- described by Pravda media USA as "ultra right wing." I guess he might go to a conservative church and that's why he's a supposed Christian Nationalist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 02:00 PM (FujVd)

261 256 What a cow.

Far too many words to say "No".

And still not enough to cover that skeletal coked up Willem Dafoe lookin ass.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (VoAdT)

The old plural for cow is kine. We have kine in Congress.
(Note: kine is the only plural to have no letters in common with its singular...)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:00 PM (ynpvh)

262 You know, Elon has threatened to run primaries against people who go against President Trump.

Murkowski would be the perfect high profile scalp.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (tT6L1)

263 >>Obviously, no one here. Make it the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Bewbs and the entire Horde could be hired to run it.

Day 1: Breast Reduction Surgery is Outlawed.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (snN/i)

264 Heh. Just saw on Newsmax that Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (W2Pud)

I'm trying to figure out just how stupid he and his cronies are. This isn't helping.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (mg05v)

265 262 You know, Elon has threatened to run primaries against people who go against President Trump.

Murkowski would be the perfect high profile scalp.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (tT6L1)

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She's not up for re-election until 2028.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

266 240 Suppose you change your job title to Head of Office. Next day Vivek and Elon show up like the two Bob's and ask, "what do you do around here?" Schedule DOGE interviews to start with the most recently created or renamed titles. And work backwards until you get to the New Deal.
Posted by: steve poling at January 23, 2025 01:58 PM (J3cMN)

DOGE should livestream Vivek and Elon doing Bob-style interviews of SES personnel.

I'd pay for it. I'm sure others will too. They'll raise revenue as well as cut costs!

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (/ZufQ)

267 Common sense bewb armor control laws.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (bz2GH)

268 Sen. Murk - "... in good conscience . . . "

You have no conscience and there's nothing good about you. Dismissed!

I said dismissed!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (Aqu9a)

269 But, I never really understood the express need for that Amendment once the Emancipation took place, as slavery was not codified in the founding documents.
Posted by: garrett

Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland. Emancipation was under Commander in Chief role and only covered where the US military was the defacto government. Thus, the 13th Amendment drove a stake in the heart of slavery including in the remaining three slave states in the North. Remember, Dred Scott was actually still ruling precedent and it was so bad it took three amendments to fix.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (ctrM5)

270 262 You know, Elon has threatened to run primaries against people who go against President Trump.

Murkowski would be the perfect high profile scalp.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (tT6L1)

They still have ranked choice voting right ? As long as they do she will "win"

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (VE6XX)

271 264 Heh. Just saw on Newsmax that Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (W2Pud)

I'm trying to figure out just how stupid he and his cronies are. This isn't helping.
Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (mg05v)

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He knows it's over. He's just trying to shift blame for the end of the war that doesn't end with Zelenskyy as president of a unified Ukraine on Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

272 135 So does the recision of affirmative action in contracting mean companies not run by women will stand a chance to compete?
Posted by: OneEyedJack

I think this is huge, and being overlooked.

Maybe everybody's waiting to see how the graft will find a new route into politicians pockets before getting excited by it.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (j4U/Z)

273 Obviously, no one here. Make it the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Bewbs and the entire Horde could be hired to run it.
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This man is a genius.
Posted by: Pudinhead

Huh? ATF exists to make sure you don't have access to alcohol, tobacco, or firearms.

And you want to add boobs?

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (DgGvY)

274 Heh. Just saw on Newsmax that Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Give Murkowski a rifle and send her over there.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (63Dwl)

Zelensky should really suck a dick.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (uCjyK)

275 She's not up for re-election until 2028.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Figures. Ah well.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)

276 >>@EricLDaugh
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>>4m
BREAKING: Senator Roger Wicker believes Pete Hegseth still has 50 votes for secretary of defense, meaning JD Vance would break the tie for confirmation - Fox /
@aishahhasnie

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (LkLld)

277 why is Alaska still a state? revert it to province

... with Cali and Hawaii and Washington
Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2025 01:53 PM (Pv3Rg)

Turn it into seven GOP states, its big enough.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (n7h9X)

278 I just think once again it's going to be UniParty Republicans that stymie Trump.

Shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

First Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years, but they still want to run away from him because he's icky.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (4pwAx)

279 She's not up for re-election until 2028.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

The time you spent learning this fact, whenever it happened, could have been better spent staring at your toenails.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (mg05v)

280 275 She's not up for re-election until 2028.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)
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Figures. Ah well.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (tT6L1)

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I mean, it can still happen.

But she's got plenty of time to spread money around through the Alaska machine, have some symbolic votes, and appeal to Democrats in the state to shore up her position.

We'll see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

281 Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (W2Pud)
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When I heard this, my first reaction was "Aren't there already troops in Ukraine?"

Probably logistical and training, but still, I bet 5 quatloos Biden (or whoever the fuck was signing hsi name to stuff) sent Americans to Ukraine.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (adwAx)

282 Day 1: Breast Reduction Surgery is Outlawed.
Posted by: garrett

At least for any chicks under 50.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)

283 276 >>@EricLDaugh
·
>>4m
BREAKING: Senator Roger Wicker believes Pete Hegseth still has 50 votes for secretary of defense, meaning JD Vance would break the tie for confirmation - Fox /
@aishahhasnie
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (LkLld)

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No Fetterman, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

284 267 Common sense bewb armor control laws.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (bz2GH)

This needs to be regulated.

https://youtu.be/W24Nubbeqb0&t=42s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (ynpvh)

285 I can't shake this feeling that the tendrils of the left are recoiling for a series of strikes.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (mlg/3)

286 First Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years, but they still want to run away from him because he's icky.
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (4pwAx)

It's not because he's icky it's because he's not a leftist and/or on the leftist payroll. The icky argument went out the window with the popular vote.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (mg05v)

287 235 I remember that Biden changed the hiring rules for Federal workers to remove the preference for veterans. Has this been changed back yet?
Posted by: ALH is a girl at January 23, 2025 01:57 PM (+HzbQ)
‘Some’ veterans.

Posted by: Eromero at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (jgmnb)

288 >>Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland. Emancipation was under Commander in Chief role and only covered where the US military was the defacto government

This is good stuff.
I totally forgot about the Emancipation Proclamation not taking these 3 into account.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (snN/i)

289 >>He knows it's over. He's just trying to shift blame for the end of the war that doesn't end with Zelenskyy as president of a unified Ukraine on Trump.

What will be real fun is when Trump gives Putin a stage to tell the world why he invaded Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (LkLld)

290 Heh. Just saw on Newsmax that Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Give Murkowski a rifle and send her over there.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2025 01:59 PM (63Dwl)

Zelensky should really suck a dick.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (uCjyK)

He only has two strategies - yell at people for money and tell his troops to stand and die in every tiny hamlet in the country for nothing.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (n7h9X)

291 Zelensky should play the piano with his tiny shriveled cock.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (bz2GH)

292 279 She's not up for re-election until 2028.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

The time you spent learning this fact, whenever it happened, could have been better spent staring at your toenails.
Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (mg05v)

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I am writing a movie post, watching Napoleon The Director's Cut, keeping my Teams active, and commenting here all at the same time!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

293 Or just fire the entire ATF....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (xcxpd)

294 He knows it's over. He's just trying to shift blame for the end of the war that doesn't end with Zelenskyy as president of a unified Ukraine on Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

This is something no one has explained to me - why in the world would I care who is in charge of a patch of dirt in Eastern Europe?

I'm not involved in getting billions of dollars in kickback money and rights of first refusal on Ukrainian farm land, minerals, and oil. Let the people who are put on some camo and get out there and fight against the Russians or whoever.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (uCjyK)

295 284 267 Common sense bewb armor control laws.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (bz2GH)

This needs to be regulated.

https://youtu.be/W24Nubbeqb0&t=42s

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (ynpvh)

https://youtu.be/C3dM90Frt1U

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

296 But she's got plenty of time to spread money around through the Alaska machine, have some symbolic votes, and appeal to Democrats in the state to shore up her position.

We'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

There's always the chance of an ice floe... She's no spring chicken...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (VE6XX)

297 I'm on a zoom, and some libshit couldn't contain herself and busted in with "a federal judge just threw out Trump's birthright leadership EO!!!" And she really said leadership.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (Dm8we)

298 Hail Trump.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025

Hail yes!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (Aqu9a)

299 I do think though Republicans in Congress should punish Alaska.

The whole state is basically just a pork barrel project.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (4pwAx)

300 Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson

Thank you for doing the right thing, Senator Murkowski

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (NpAcC)

301 I am writing a movie post, watching Napoleon The Director's Cut, keeping my Teams active, and commenting here all at the same time!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

No juggling?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (aD39U)

302 In this case, it's more along the lines of Ian Fleming's quip "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action"
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This is an Auric Goldfinger quote.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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“How can we account for our present situation unless we believe that men high in this government are concerting to deliver us to disaster? This must be the product of a great conspiracy, a conspiracy on a scale so immense as to dwarf any previous such venture in the history of man. A conspiracy of infamy so black that, when it is finally exposed, its principals shall be forever deserving of the maledictions of all honest men."

Posted by: Joe McCarthy at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (XeU6L)

303 294 This is something no one has explained to me - why in the world would I care who is in charge of a patch of dirt in Eastern Europe?

I'm not involved in getting billions of dollars in kickback money and rights of first refusal on Ukrainian farm land, minerals, and oil. Let the people who are put on some camo and get out there and fight against the Russians or whoever.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (uCjyK)

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I have NEVER cared about the Ukraine war.

It is a feudalist fight between two powers half a world away.

I. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.

And people acting like not supporting Ukraine makes me unAmerican make me laugh in derision.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

304 293 Or just fire the entire ATF....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (xcxpd)

Turn it into the proverbial convenience store.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (/ZufQ)

305 And as someone who (now) works in government...yeah, it doesn't even take malice to delay things. Folks here work at their own...tempo. Unless the org leader puts feet to fire, and fires slow staff, nothing gets done in a timely fashion. Private sector is frankly just better across the board, in every way.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (xcxpd)

306 Flounder did good with "dude date."
A typing variance can be like found wisdom, sometimes.
So many of these disclosures happen because of dude dates.

Actual due dates are good too, but there's a working alternative in modern practice: put the new policy, or policy retraction, into use at once via EO, with the set term 'research' due on a date certain, the way public comment periods are supposed to work. Those now arguing status quo are then reduced to status quo ante, and have to overcome new and real evidence. Good fun.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (zdLoL)

307 That letter from Murk, will not soften Trump's heart.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (g47mK)

308 288 >>Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland. Emancipation was under Commander in Chief role and only covered where the US military was the defacto government
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Add Delaware to the list. Maryland was the captive state. Lincoln sent the Army to seize the State's Legislature and had the guns at Ft. McHenry turned onto the city of Baltimore with the promise to level the place if they secede.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (Wg6v7)

309 Murkowski would be the perfect high profile scalp.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 23, 2025 02:01 PM (tT6L1)

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She's not up for re-election until 2028.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Dirty GOP pols in Alaska (Ted Stevens was one, a second was Murcow's father (Frank Murkowski) who was a GOP senator then left his seat to his daughter to run and win as governor.

Palin, in part was destroyed by the cozy arrangements between oil companies and their service contractors, native reservations, and politicians. Ted Steven's trial highlighted corruption issues like getting cheap renovations to houses, etc.

Ted was railroaded but at the same time was a slimy toad getting whatever he could under the guise of 'friendship'. Murcow's father was no different and I suspect his daughter has loose ethics as well.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (ctrM5)

310 301 I am writing a movie post, watching Napoleon The Director's Cut, keeping my Teams active, and commenting here all at the same time!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (GBKbO)

No juggling?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (aD39U)

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Well, yeah. With my toenails. I thought that was implied.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

311 We are now headed into a four-day erection. Medical attention should be sought.

Posted by: It just keeps getting better at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (ybSPO)

312 304 293 Or just fire the entire ATF....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (xcxpd)

Turn it into the proverbial convenience store.
Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (/ZufQ)

I'll go along with that. I do like booze and guns.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (xcxpd)

313 And I'm sure that Deep State looks on RFK Jr as a flake and a lightweight. His dad wasn't. Even took on the Mafia. This Kennedy has even more incentive to go after them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (NQtI0)

314 >>I'm on a zoom, and some libshit couldn't contain herself and busted in with "a federal judge just threw out Trump's birthright leadership EO!!!" And she really said leadership.

Did you jump in to tell her to thank the judge? The only way this was ever going to be decided is at the Supreme Court and the faster lower courts rule against it the better.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (LkLld)

315 I miss the Murkowski Coke Bear Memes.

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (snN/i)

316 Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland.
Posted by: Whig

Delaware, too.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

317 @269 five states, the three you mentioned plus West Virginia and Delaware. Delaware and Kentucky kept their slaves till 12/65 when the 13th went into effect. Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia got rid of their after the emancipation proclamation.
Oddly at the time of the 13th amendment New Jersey also still had 19 slaves or indentured servants

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (6v8aM)

318 WHat is a Senator worth without a security clearance - due to irresponsible...something or other ? Or suspended until an investigation is completed ? Stupid bint.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (g47mK)

319 297 I'm on a zoom, and some libshit couldn't contain herself and busted in with "a federal judge just threw out Trump's birthright leadership EO!!!" And she really said leadership.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (Dm8we)

Wow- does she not know the point is to get it in front of SCOTUS?

Posted by: Piper at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

320 This is good stuff.
I totally forgot about the Emancipation Proclamation not taking these 3 into account.
Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2025 02:04 PM (snN/i)

Also, a presidential "proclamation" isn't exactly legally binding.

In fact, it was meaningless, since he kept slavery in Union states, and only "abolished" it in states that did not recognize him as President and over whom he had no power, and in fact were actively rebelling against the Union and had their own president, who made no such proclamation.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (uCjyK)

321 Murcokeski the cocaine sniffer has…integrity reservation about Hegseth. Lolol ok.

Her and Collins need to go.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (nIMb3)

322 Zelenski is demanding US troops in Ukraine.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2025 01:55 PM (W2Pud)
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When I heard this, my first reaction was "Aren't there already troops in Ukraine?"

Probably logistical and training, but still, I bet 5 quatloos Biden (or whoever the fuck was signing hsi name to stuff) sent Americans to Ukraine.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 02:03 PM (adwAx)

Every one of the long range HIMARS shot into Russia has to be personally 'aimed' and fired by a US soldier. The targets are detected by US satellites and coordiates calculated by US troops.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (n7h9X)

323 318 WHat is a Senator worth without a security clearance - due to irresponsible...something or other ? Or suspended until an investigation is completed ? Stupid bint.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (g47mK)

$20, same as in town

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (ynpvh)

324 So make Alaska suffer until they get the point.
Posted by: tubal

Like Gunny Hartman from FMJ. 'Everytime your Senator fucks up, I will not punish them. I will punish all of you!'

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (NUCav)

325 The judge that blocked Trump's EO was a Reagan appointee.

Why does this never happen to Democrat appointed judges?

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (4pwAx)

326 So who is this Hairy Sissy who applauds Murkowski??

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (PCK5/)

327 317 Oddly at the time of the 13th amendment New Jersey also still had 19 slaves or indentured servants
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January

Delaware was the last state to get rid of their slaves.

Posted by: Piper at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (ZdaMQ)

328 I will say that the director's cut of Napoleon is obviously better than the original cut.

It's still not good, but it's definitely better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (GBKbO)

329 I'm on a zoom, and some libshit couldn't contain herself and busted in with "a federal judge just threw out Trump's birthright leadership EO!!!" And she really said leadership.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Wow- does she not know the point is to get it in front of SCOTUS?
Posted by: Piper

Gonna be a lot of briar patchin' the next four years.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (DgGvY)

330
Her and Collins need to go.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (nIMb3)

I can kind of give Collins a pass.. She's from Maine but Alaska ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (VE6XX)

331 Add Delaware to the list. Maryland was the captive state. Lincoln sent the Army to seize the State's Legislature and had the guns at Ft. McHenry turned onto the city of Baltimore with the promise to level the place if they secede.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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You are right, I always forget Delaware for good reasons now with FJB. Maryland though never formally left the Union and thus slavery was still permitted until the Maryland legislature apparently amended their state constitution to ban it in 1864. So subtract one and add one state.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (ctrM5)

332 had the guns at Ft. McHenry turned onto the city of Baltimore with the promise to level the place if they secede.
Posted by: Pudinhead

You keep repeating this, and it simply isn't true.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (77rzZ)

333 The number of Americans who think US troops in Ukraine is a quality idea and who don't stand to profit from it could probably fit on the bus in front of Rosa Parks.

Z's demand does nothing to shift blame and he sounds like a fucking retard. I would believe it's a Hail Mary for his benefactors before I believe it's been designed to actually convince anyone of anything.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (mg05v)

334 I have NEVER cared about the Ukraine war.

It is a feudalist fight between two powers half a world away.

I. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.

And people acting like not supporting Ukraine makes me unAmerican make me laugh in derision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

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Ditto here.

Like Covid, this op was transparently stupid and only the weakminded fell for it. Or those receiving kickbacks. Why, yes, we should send billions to the most corrupt country ever.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (PMtkd)

335 I have NEVER cared about the Ukraine war.

It is a feudalist fight between two powers half a world away.

I. Do. Not. Give. A. Shit.

And people acting like not supporting Ukraine makes me unAmerican make me laugh in derision.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

So...what if China eats Taiwan? Same feelings?

(I'm honestly shocked China didn't do this during Biden's interregnum. They are playing the long, long game, clearly)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

336 I can't shake this feeling that the tendrils of the left are recoiling for a series of strikes.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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It worked in 2016

Posted by: Democrats at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (XeU6L)

337 Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland.

It wasn't for want of trying on maybe 2.5/3 counts.
Missouri fought a bitter civil war ("war between the states" doesn't apply there). Kentucky brokered a deal to stay out of the fighting so wasn't much help for moving Union forces, until the CSA invaded it first. And Maryland pretty-much lost its pro-CSA government because the Union needed to keep DC and to protect Pennsylvania from what was going to become Gettysburg.
The one pro-Union slave state would be Delaware.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (gKWVE)

338 I can kind of give Collins a pass.. She's from Maine but Alaska ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (VE6XX)

Yeah, she does kinda vote like her state.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (g47mK)

339 VOTE VANCE!

Posted by: Sid at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (t+apK)

340 324 So make Alaska suffer until they get the point.
Posted by: tubal

Like Gunny Hartman from FMJ. 'Everytime your Senator fucks up, I will not punish them. I will punish all of you!'
Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (NUCav)

Really the only viable option…

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (PCK5/)

341 Everything I know of Fetterman says he won't vote for Hegseth. If he does it will surprise me

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (fwDg9)

342 I can kind of give Collins a pass.. She's from Maine but Alaska ?
Posted by: It's me donna

Collins seems more low key about it also.
Murkowsi seem to revel in being a "maverick"

Alaska went for Trump by like 14 points.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (4pwAx)

343 328 I will say that the director's cut of Napoleon is obviously better than the original cut.

It's still not good, but it's definitely better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (GBKbO)

Is it still mostly Josephine's story?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

344 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth

Because it's too hard to spell, right?

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (zdLoL)

345 Jan 2023 through Dec 2024 averaged 1501 migrant encounters at US Ports of Entry per day. On Jan 22, 2025 that number was 44.

All this posturing by the Biden Administration that nothing could be done unless a comprehensive immigration plan to fix the USA's broken immigration situation was passed was and still is a flat out lie. Mayorkas should be prosecuted for intentionally refusing to enforce US laws.

https://is.gd/v6l9m7

Posted by: Altaria Pilgram - My President has convictions at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (Q8Bj8)

346 316 Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland.
Posted by: Whig

Delaware, too.
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This is why Grant had slaves and Lee didn't.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (Wg6v7)

347
Wait, VP only gets a vote in case of tie, right?

What if these Republican Shits abstain from voting and the vote is 50-47?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (FLFnM)

348 The last known case of slavery in Alaska was resolved in 1886 when Sah Quah, a Haida man, appeared in a court in Sitka to request freedom from his enslaver, Nah-Ki-Klan, a Tlingit man. This case marked the end of de facto slavery in Alaska, which had persisted despite the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which abolished slavery nationally, taking effect on December 18, 1865. The Haida, Tlingit, and Tsimshian tribes practiced chattel slavery in Alaska, and Sah Quah’s legal action led to the abolition of slavery in the territory. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (aD39U)

349 300 Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson

Thank you for doing the right thing, Senator Murkowski

How can he tweet with a dick in his mouth?

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (+oR7L)

350 Like Gunny Hartman from FMJ. 'Everytime your Senator fucks up, I will not punish them. I will punish all of you!'
Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (NUCav)

I'm the innocent victim in all this.

Posted by: A jelly donut at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (ybSPO)

351 I thought that West Virginia had to abolish slavery as a condition of statehood?

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (77rzZ)

352 6 So who is this Hairy Sissy who applauds Murkowski??
Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (PCK5/)
*********
One of the top Dem influencers on X.
Reminds me of David Hogg.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (NpAcC)

353 In fact, it was meaningless, since he kept slavery in Union states, and only "abolished" it in states that did not recognize him as President and over whom he had no power, and in fact were actively rebelling against the Union and had their own president, who made no such proclamation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (uCjyK)

of course it wasn't meaningless. It meant every step forward a union army made the whole purpose of the South was ripped out permanently. Every island occupied was soon a site for slaves to desert and cease being an asset. And it meant that things were never going to go back to the ante-bellum status quo or anything like it.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (n7h9X)

354 Wow- does she not know the point is to get it in front of SCOTUS?

Posted by: Piper at January 23, 2025 02:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

These are the types that loved the idea of the free obamacare, until they found out that they had to pay for it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (i24o9)

355 338 I can kind of give Collins a pass.. She's from Maine but Alaska ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (VE6XX)

Yeah, she does kinda vote like her state.
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (g47mK)

I get that runner, but for my part it’s hardball time and he promised us that…

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (PCK5/)

356 They should all watch Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime Minister for lessons on the deep state.
And Sir Humphrey wasn't malignant, just a dedicated bureaucrat.

Posted by: Jimmy McNulty at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (m7IZx)

357 Slotkin and Durbin just voted to confirm Hegseth--as did Collins and Murkowski

so he's In like Flynn

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (94/H1)

358 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (bz2GH)

359 357 Slotkin and Durbin just voted to confirm Hegseth--as did Collins and Murkowski

Out of committee I believe

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (VE6XX)

360 335 So...what if China eats Taiwan? Same feelings?

(I'm honestly shocked China didn't do this during Biden's interregnum. They are playing the long, long game, clearly)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

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I believe our strategic use of Taiwan, mostly around its manufacturing capabilities, makes it far more important to American interests than Ukraine which has never been more than a corrupt sinkhole for American bureaucrats and elected officials.

Saying that Ukraine and Russia can piss off with their war is not the same as saying that all potential foreign entanglements are outside of legitimate American government interest.

Also...we should be working domestically to make Taiwan incidental to our strategic interests through our own high tech manufacturing. In the imperfect world we live in, Taiwan is a strategic interest. In a more perfect world, Taiwan is a redundant manufacturing hub we can afford to lose.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

361 317 @269 five states, the three you mentioned plus West Virginia and Delaware. Delaware and Kentucky kept their slaves till 12/65 when the 13th went into effect. Maryland, Missouri and West Virginia got rid of their after the emancipation proclamation.
Oddly at the time of the 13th amendment New Jersey also still had 19 slaves or indentured servants
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Should have looked it up. Going from memory on that one. I think NJ grandfathered in existing slaves from their 1804 gradual abolition of slavery act. Those remaining ones were all that were left over sixty years later I guess.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (ctrM5)

362 This is just Mookow pissing because Trump changed the mountain name.

She was all up on about it, pretty clearly saying she was going to spite Trump if he did it.

He did it. Because Trump is not playing nice this time.
She had her chance to get on board.

She has no idea that the power of a Senator is an illusion maintained by agreement of the Uniparty.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (2k0oQ)

363 325 The judge that blocked Trump's EO was a Reagan appointee.

Why does this never happen to Democrat appointed judges?
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:08 PM (4pwAx)

No, this is proceeding according to plan. The Judge did the right thing. The President can't change a SCOTUS interpretation of a constitutional amendment with an executive order.

Next step is the appeals process.

I also imagine Trump will find some realllly unsympathetic Defendant who claims US citizenship to deport.

There are multiple methods to get there, but basically this needs to get in front of SCOTUS. Lower courts hands are largely tied here.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (uCjyK)

364 I forgot about WV aka Union Virginia. Although its territories weren't very slavey.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (gKWVE)

365 I get that runner, but for my part it’s hardball time and he promised us that…
Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (PCK5/)

Need to get your people in, nothing can be done with her right now.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (g47mK)

366
Fucking Durbin & fucking Slotkin voted AYE??

No fucking way...

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (FLFnM)

367 358 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.
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Wait until we add Greenland to the flag.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (Wg6v7)

368 Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland.
Posted by: Whig

Delaware, too.
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This is why Grant had slaves and Lee didn't.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (Wg6v7)

Grant didn't have slaves, his wives family did and they were freed.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (n7h9X)

369 348 The last known case of slavery in Alaska was resolved in 1886 when Sah Quah, a Haida man, appeared in a court in Sitka to request freedom from his enslaver, Nah-Ki-Klan, a Tlingit man. This case marked the end of de facto slavery in Alaska, which had persisted despite the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which abolished slavery nationally, taking effect on December 18, 1865. The Haida, Tlingit, and Tsimshian tribes practiced chattel slavery in Alaska, and Sah Quah’s legal action led to the abolition of slavery in the territory. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (aD39U)

But the MSM told me slavery was solely whites enslavings blacks...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (ynpvh)

370 > Slotkin and Durbin just voted to confirm Hegseth--as did Collins and Murkowski
---

that's weird because foxnews headline

GOP senator announces she will oppose Trump nominee Pete Hegseth for defense secretary

'she' being Murk

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (AOsQT)

371 durbin & slotkin votes yes from whom , Ratcliffe ?

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (g47mK)

372 Three states still had legal slavery but did not leave the Union--Missouri, Kentucky, and Maryland. Emancipation was under Commander in Chief role and only covered where the US military was the defacto government
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Add Delaware to the list. Maryland was the captive state. Lincoln sent the Army to seize the State's Legislature and had the guns at Ft. McHenry turned onto the city of Baltimore with the promise to level the place if they secede.

*****

Maryland and Missouri ended slavery “voluntarily” while under Federal control.

The Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery in Kentucky, Delaware, and New Jersey.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (FC8SQ)

373 140 Murkowski is a No on Hesgeth
Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 01:48 PM

I hope Musk follows through on his promise to fund people to primary Murkowski and others like her.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (WsJuq)

374 *for

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (g47mK)

375 349 300 Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson

Thank you for doing the right thing, Senator Murkowski

How can he tweet with a dick in his mouth?

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (+oR7L)

That doesn't require fingers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:13 PM (ynpvh)

376 365 I get that runner, but for my part it’s hardball time and he promised us that…
Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (PCK5/)

Need to get your people in, nothing can be done with her right now.
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (g47mK)

Yeah… the art of the possible, I guess.. still sucks though..

Posted by: tubal at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (PCK5/)

377 Top of Mind > Head of Office

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (Vyll1)

378 You may have already seen this but I just heard about it.
A federal Judge declares Trump's EO on birthright citizenship unconstitutional. Good, the faster it get's to SCOTUS the better.

https://tinyurl.com/y5x4mfzf

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (RQRKj)

379 WOW. The DEEP STATE is PLANNING TO SABOTAGE RFK Jr.

"Wow"?

Newsflash: the Deep State is planning -- and probably already has operations in motion, having planned them for years -- to sabotage everything President Trump and anyone in his Administration try to do.

Everyone supporting President Trump should have already known this and have been planning for it.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (P5BPp)

380 343 Is it still mostly Josephine's story?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

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Pretty much.

But the world building and smaller, less important to the plot moments get more screentime.

There's an early moment, still during the Revolution, when a group of nuns are led to the Guillotine. They start chanting, the chant growing weaker as each one is led to the Razor until only the last one, the youngest is left, her voice eventually getting silenced, leaving the whole scene quiet.

It's a great moment that has nothing to do with Napoleon himself but everything to do with France at the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

381 Hey, Piper, if you're still here, yesterday you said that you would e-mail me a jicama recipe. I haven't seen that e-mail yet. Just a friendly reminder.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (77rzZ)

382 So...what if China eats Taiwan? Same feelings?

(I'm honestly shocked China didn't do this during Biden's interregnum. They are playing the long, long game, clearly)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

For me? Yes, absolutely. Same with any conflict on this planet. Why are we spending the money, energy, and blood to maintain a world order that doesn't directly benefit US citizens? And even if it did, how can our form of government work with a country that is trying to maintain a world wide empire? It doesn't.

And many of our problems today arise from the post - WWII era that was the beginning of some really shitty horrible people getting very rich off this kind of global adventurism.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (uCjyK)

383 No, this is proceeding according to plan. The Judge did the right thing. The President can't change a SCOTUS interpretation of a constitutional amendment with an executive order.

Next step is the appeals process.

I also imagine Trump will find some realllly unsympathetic Defendant who claims US citizenship to deport.

There are multiple methods to get there, but basically this needs to get in front of SCOTUS. Lower courts hands are largely tied here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

==

That might be how things ultimately work out, but I dont think this was the "plan" when the judge did it.

The judge said it was unconstitutional and froze it. I've never heard of a strategy like this.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (4pwAx)

384 I'm watching them vote now "live" on the Senate floor...

I heard "aye" called out for all four

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (94/H1)

385 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.
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Wait until we add Greenland to the flag.
Posted by: Pudinhead

Greenland has a population of 56000. It doesn't need 2 senators and a representative. Just glue it on to some other state, or leave it in the same category as Guam or PR.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (DgGvY)

386 The Greeenland state flag will be a golden narwahl rampant on a field of azure

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (AOsQT)

387 Years ago Trump told Zelinskyy to make the best deal he could. Years. Ago. But Biden. Hunter. Burisma. "Son of a bitch he got fired." After the threat to with hold a billion dollars. Great going, Progressives.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (QSrLX)

388 384 I'm watching them vote now "live" on the Senate floor...

I heard "aye" called out for all four
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (94/H1)

Hegseth or Radcliffe ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (VE6XX)

389 It's apparently someone named Russell Vought who is-of course- described by Pravda media USA as "ultra right wing." I guess he might go to a conservative church and that's why he's a supposed Christian Nationalist.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 23, 2025 02:00 PM (FujVd)

Tucker Carlson interviewed him a couple of months ago, back in August I think. It was an interesting interview, and it discussed a lot of the OMB functions. Vought's philosophy is that Congress finds the money to spend on various and sundry programs, but ultimately it is the President's job as Executive to determine IF it should be spent.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (D7oie)

390 from yesterday - Murk, Collins and McConnell are no on Hegseth. He still gets in with JD 's vote.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 01:52 PM (g47mK)

The Three Stooges.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (VwHCD)

391 "Wow"?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (P5BPp)

Maybe they meant whoa

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (mg05v)

392 297 I'm on a zoom, and some libshit couldn't contain herself and busted in with "a federal judge just threw out Trump's birthright leadership EO!!!" And she really said leadership.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 23, 2025 02:05 PM (Dm8we)

They have very little self control. I was hosting a working session with my company's leadership, and part of the agenda was identifying calendar items/events that we should have "something to say about."

I started to say something like, "and because it's an election year, we should consider whether it's appropriate to have have a prepared statement for either a Trump or Harris victory, or if that's not our lane."

Soon as I said "election year," there was a perfectly-executed performative groan followed by a "God help us" from an AWFL. It's a mental illness. They HAVE to let you know how they feel whether you care or not.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (/ZufQ)

393 I believe our strategic use of Taiwan, mostly around its manufacturing capabilities, makes it far more important to American interests than Ukraine which has never been more than a corrupt sinkhole for American bureaucrats and elected officials.

Saying that Ukraine and Russia can piss off with their war is not the same as saying that all potential foreign entanglements are outside of legitimate American government interest.

Also...we should be working domestically to make Taiwan incidental to our strategic interests through our own high tech manufacturing. In the imperfect world we live in, Taiwan is a strategic interest. In a more perfect world, Taiwan is a redundant manufacturing hub we can afford to lose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:12 PM (GBKbO)

I don't disagree with your assessment of Taiwan.
I do feel Ukraine is geographically strategic if nothing else. Morally, I don't want Russia to think they can just walk in and take it.

That doesn't mean I want the US Army there. (And they are already)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)

394 321 Murcokeski and Collins need to go.
Posted by: Marcus T

They've already left.

But being bitches with the majority is big medicine in the Senate.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (j4U/Z)

395 Mmmm. Cooooccckk.

Posted by: Sid at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (gKWVE)

396 Murkowski has concerns

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (AOsQT)

397 385 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.
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Wait until we add Greenland to the flag.
Posted by: Pudinhead

Greenland has a population of 56000. It doesn't need 2 senators and a representative. Just glue it on to some other state, or leave it in the same category as Guam or PR.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (DgGvY)

Part of of the great state of Canada?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (ynpvh)

398 John Ratcliffe confirmed to be CIA Director,

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (NpAcC)

399 Birthright Citizenship is a tax.

Posted by: Supreme Court Justice Roberts at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (dIske)

400 Greenland has a population of 56000. It doesn't need 2 senators and a representative. Just glue it on to some other state

-
East Georgia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (L/fGl)

401 393 I don't disagree with your assessment of Taiwan.
I do feel Ukraine is geographically strategic if nothing else. Morally, I don't want Russia to think they can just walk in and take it.

That doesn't mean I want the US Army there. (And they are already)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)

=======

The more time goes on, the more I find myself sympathetic with Washington's farewell message.

It's equally an earnest plea for self-sufficiency in a land of grand opportunity as it is a plea to stay out of Europe's wasteful wars.

The first part is more important, to me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

402 398 John Ratcliffe confirmed to be CIA Director,
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (NpAcC)

Shouldn't have taken so long with him

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (VE6XX)

403 the chyron on the screen says "Senate votes on Pete Hegseth"

is the media f*cking with me? Again?

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (94/H1)

404 I'm watching them vote now "live" on the Senate floor...

I heard "aye" called out for all four

Posted by: SantaRosaStan

Is it the vote for CIA/John Ratcliffe you are watching?

Posted by: friends in low places at January 23, 2025 02:18 PM (WD60c)

405 That might be how things ultimately work out, but I dont think this was the "plan" when the judge did it.

The judge said it was unconstitutional and froze it. I've never heard of a strategy like this.
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (4pwAx)

It's a very common strategy. It's how pretty much every major landmark SCOTUS case you've ever heard of happened.

Government or outside organizations set up a scenario to try to get a case in front of SCOTUS to change the interpretation of the law.

It's not easy to do. And ending birthright citizen is a long shot (unfortunately), even with this court. And even if it does end, it will be years from now.

That's why Trump's team got the ball rolling on day 1.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:18 PM (uCjyK)

406 325 The judge that blocked Trump's EO was a Reagan appointee.

Why does this never happen to Democrat appointed judges?
Posted by: Leupold
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Lot of the older judges were appointed via a blue slip procedure in the Judiciary Committee where home state senators (even Dems) could torpedo any district court judge that they did not approve of. The threat was also that any judge outside the norm could be filibustered so required 60 votes.

The logjam was broken by Harry Reid eliminating the filibuster for executive and judicial appointments and the Judiciary Committee blue slip process was so abused that gradually it was reduced in influence in blocking nominees.

Now you get full on District Court Commies from the Dems when they hold the Presidency and more conservative GOP judges appointed by Trump. E.g. of the old regime, Sotomayor was first appointed as District Court judge by GHWB in a deal brokered with the Dems in NY.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:18 PM (ctrM5)

407 @Oilfield_Rando 22h

Everything Donald Trump is dismantling will be parked at a bunch of communist 501c3’s until the next Democrat President, when it will be quickly restored to government. The Trump admin MUST go after the left wing non profits to secure long term victories. Break them. Strike.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 02:18 PM (CwhoI)

408 Better. East Virginia. Then we'd have West Virginia, Virginia, and East Virginia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (L/fGl)

409 382 So...what if China eats Taiwan? Same feelings?

(I'm honestly shocked China didn't do this during Biden's interregnum. They are playing the long, long game, clearly)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

For me? Yes, absolutely. Same with any conflict on this planet. Why are we spending the money, energy, and blood to maintain a world order that doesn't directly benefit US citizens? And even if it did, how can our form of government work with a country that is trying to maintain a world wide empire? It doesn't.

And many of our problems today arise from the post - WWII era that was the beginning of some really shitty horrible people getting very rich off this kind of global adventurism.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:14 PM (uCjyK)

chiming in on TJM's commentary, Taiwan is a huge processor/chip mfg. That is a benefit for the US computer industry and normies everywhere.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

410 >>The judge said it was unconstitutional and froze it. I've never heard of a strategy like this.

The entire reasoning behind this fight is to get a SC ruling on the meaning of the 14th Amendment. Open borders types have declared for decades that it means that if you set on US soil and give birth the child is automatically a US citizen.

That is not what the Amendment says but nobody has ever challenged it before. Now the fight is on and the only way it gets decided is at the SC.

The judge is wrong. It is clearly Constitutional.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (LkLld)

411 408 Better. East Virginia. Then we'd have West Virginia, Virginia, and East Virginia.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (L/fGl)

======

Rename North Carolina to South Virginia and South Carolina to Carolina.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

412 but ultimately it is the President's job as Executive to determine IF it should be spent.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 23, 2025 02:15 PM (D7oie)
================
Yes, and he drew a couple of distinctions: first, if Congress's goal can be accomplished spending less, the President should spend less, and second, if the President determines the spending by Congress is contrary to other law he should have the right to impound it in some manner and have Congress look at the issue again.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (RQRKj)

413 Every confirmation is a good sigh

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (fwDg9)

414 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:11 PM (bz2GH)

It's already detached.
Subdivided is next - in the mass production zone.

Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone.

Posted by: Doof at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (gEQYA)

415 385 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.
--------------

AK and HI should be reconstituted as territories.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (TtkQJ)

416 no suh, I am watching "Senate votes for Pete Hegseth for Defence Secretary"

LIVE !!

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (94/H1)

417 “Oh, I say and I say it again. You’ve been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok! This is what he does!”

Malcolm X (1992)

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (RHGPo)

418 RFK Jr is convinced (and frankly, I think he's probably right) that the CIA / Deep State assassinated both his uncle and his father. And has publicly and openly stated it many times, and even given the names of who he thinks the shooters were.

Didn't Pompeo say that he'd read the JFK file and thought it shouldn't be opened? If the file said - hey the government looked at this and truthfully told you everything they found, you wouldn't need a sealed file.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (ExV1e)

419 After we acquired the Philippines, Gen. Pershing, the military governor, had to after the Moros in the south, who practiced chattel slavery. He eventually succeeded in eliminating the practice.

Posted by: Bulg at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (77rzZ)

420 Everything Donald Trump is dismantling will be parked at a bunch of communist 501c3’s until the next Democrat President, when it will be quickly restored to government. The Trump admin MUST go after the left wing non profits to secure long term victories. Break them. Strike.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 23, 2025 02:18 PM (CwhoI)

I so agree!

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)

421 If Hegseth is confirmed he will get into wars we do not belong in !!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Bribum at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (A2iSa)

422 Proof of Doof's theory.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (TtkQJ)

423 t's a very common strategy. It's how pretty much every major landmark SCOTUS case you've ever heard of happened.

Government or outside organizations set up a scenario to try to get a case in front of SCOTUS to change the interpretation of the law.

It's not easy to do. And ending birthright citizen is a long shot (unfortunately), even with this court. And even if it does end, it will be years from now.

That's why Trump's team got the ball rolling on day 1.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
===

Wouldn't it be better to just rule it is constitutional when challenged so then it is a functioning EO then make the other side keep trying to find a judge to say it isn't ?

Either way, it eventually gets to the Supreme Court

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (4pwAx)

424 The more time goes on, the more I find myself sympathetic with Washington's farewell message.

It's equally an earnest plea for self-sufficiency in a land of grand opportunity as it is a plea to stay out of Europe's wasteful wars.

The first part is more important, to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah. Well, because as General Smedley Butler famously said "war is a racket."

It's a way for a small group of people to get rich, mostly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (uCjyK)

425 See the whites of their eyes, then shoot
With all the romance of the Ton-Ton Macoute

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (RHGPo)

426 I don't disagree with your assessment of Taiwan.
I do feel Ukraine is geographically strategic if nothing else. Morally, I don't want Russia to think they can just walk in and take it.

That doesn't mean I want the US Army there. (And they are already)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:16 PM (xcxpd)

Its a strategic trap for us because Russia has huge advantages logistically in any kind of military action, especially now that the fortified area built up for the last 10 years is essentially captured already.

The dweebs in charge in 2022 who wanted the war seriously thought the sanctions would topple Russia and there would be no serious war for long. 'home before the leaves fall' all over again. You could hardly believe anyone would think that if you hadn't seen all their other bonehead moves.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (n7h9X)

427 A Christian nationalist for OMB, an alcoholic for SOD, a vaccine denier for HHS, and Tulsi Gabbard for National Intel?

This is my new favorite version of the TV Tropes "rape, murder, arson, and jaywalking" trope.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (2ocoG)

428 Shouldn't have taken so long with him
Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (VE6XX)
*******
Obama had 9 confirmed by this time.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (NpAcC)

429 416 no suh, I am watching "Senate votes for Pete Hegseth for Defence Secretary"

LIVE !!
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:20 PM (94/H1)

And if it's a tie, JD will come out and say "I'm gonna flip a coin here.... Nah, just fucking with y'all... Ayes have it"

Posted by: Roy at January 23, 2025 02:22 PM (z+ik4)

430 The judge said it was unconstitutional and froze it. I've never heard of a strategy like this.
Posted by: Leupold
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Court injunctions under the federal court's equity powers can be issued until the matter is resolved.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:22 PM (ctrM5)

431 408 Better. East Virginia. Then we'd have West Virginia, Virginia, and East Virginia.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (L/fGl)

======

Rename North Carolina to South Virginia and South Carolina to Carolina.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (GBKbO)

Simpler renaming - East Texas, all of it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 23, 2025 02:22 PM (Aqu9a)

432 >>Didn't Pompeo say that he'd read the JFK file and thought it shouldn't be opened? If the file said - hey the government looked at this and truthfully told you everything they found, you wouldn't need a sealed file.

The next FBI Director has read it and says it should be released.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:22 PM (LkLld)

433 Hickenlooper apparently inherited his Daddy's Senate seat

a la Murkowski, et all

he just voted 'aye'

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:22 PM (94/H1)

434 The overall takeaway from O'Keefe's reporting is that gay men are probably the single biggest security risk this country faces. Shocking that plowing another dudes ass is also a good indicator of low trustworthiness.

Posted by: Resist_we_much at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (cpys8)

435 Yeah. Well, because as General Smedley Butler famously said "war is a racket."

It's a way for a small group of people to get rich, mostly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

I call dibs on the hardtack concession!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (i6Awv)

436 Wouldn't it be better to just rule it is constitutional when challenged so then it is a functioning EO then make the other side keep trying to find a judge to say it isn't ?

Either way, it eventually gets to the Supreme Court
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (4pwAx)

It doesn't really matter, it has the same effect. But a trial judge does not want to be overturned on appeal, so I would imagine this is exactly what Trumps legal team expected would happen.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (uCjyK)

437 The more time goes on, the more I find myself sympathetic with Washington's farewell message.

It's equally an earnest plea for self-sufficiency in a land of grand opportunity as it is a plea to stay out of Europe's wasteful wars.

The first part is more important, to me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:17 PM (GBKbO)

Well the man did fuck the shit out of bears and fought monsters in the woods, so I'd listen to him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (xcxpd)

438 Every confirmation is a good sigh
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (fwDg9)
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I know that was a typo but you're not wrong.

Posted by: bluebell at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (79pEw)

439 If they are voting now for Hegseth Thune must know he has the votes

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (VE6XX)

440
This is for Ratcliffe, not for Pete

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:24 PM (FLFnM)

441 Chickenfucker?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:24 PM (bz2GH)

442 Didn't Pompeo say that he'd read the JFK file and thought it shouldn't be opened? If the file said - hey the government looked at this and truthfully told you everything they found, you wouldn't need a sealed file.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Pompeo was first director of the CIA before he became Sec. of State. Deep State critter that is now persona non grata with Trump apparently. He pulled Pompeo's protective detail like Bolton's.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:24 PM (ctrM5)

443 Proof of Doof's theory.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 02:21 PM (TtkQJ)[/]

Can you be more specific? I espouse lots of theories.

Posted by: Doof at January 23, 2025 02:24 PM (gEQYA)

444 >An example he gives of how bureaucrats will "crush" RFKJr.: they'll set up a fake commission to "study" one of his issues, like fluoridation in the water.

----

So? have RFKJ pick his own people

nailed it

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:24 PM (AOsQT)

445 The thing is, by ruling this quickly, the judge hasn't laid the foundation for appeal.

LOL.

You had 30 days to paper it all up with all sorts of legal mumbo-jumbo.

Now they have to rely on a hastily-written boilerplate.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 23, 2025 02:24 PM (2k0oQ)

446 If they are voting now for Hegseth Thune must know he has the votes
Posted by: It's me donna

==
I would tend to agree, but I will always be haunted by McCain's thumbs down at the 11th hour on obamacare

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (4pwAx)

447
Alaska is coastal, a long thin strip of humanity. A mile from the ocean in Ketchikan and you're in impassible brown bear land.

Can't split it.

Posted by: Auspex at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (j4U/Z)

448 Ratcliffe got 73 yes votes, 25 no votes

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

449 The overall takeaway from O'Keefe's reporting is that gay men are probably the single biggest security risk this country faces. Shocking that plowing another dudes ass is also a good indicator of low trustworthiness.

Posted by: Resist_we_much at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (cpys

I have a hard time trusting any dude that can look at the sea of beautiful women we have and say "nah bro, I want hairy man ass"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (VwHCD)

450 ==
I would tend to agree, but I will always be haunted by McCain's thumbs down at the 11th hour on obamacare
Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (4pwAx)

Don't remind me

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (VE6XX)

451 The timeline for Trump's appointments actually feels perhaps a bit faster than with Biden's:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_appointments
_by_Joe_Biden#Federal_executive_departments

Blinken wasn't approved until 1/26. Garland 3/11.

Austin was approved by 1/22, which is a bit faster than Hegseth should he get approved tomorrow. 2 days faster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (GBKbO)

452 Alaska should be subdivided. It's too big.
Posted by: Boss Moss

It's already detached.
Subdivided is next - in the mass production zone.
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone.
Posted by: Doof

This is a big decision, no need to rush into it.

Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (DgGvY)

453 74 yes votes

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

454 437 Well the man did fuck the shit out of bears and fought monsters in the woods, so I'd listen to him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (xcxpd)

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Sounds like a good book!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

455 Hey Ace I sent you a video of a Local news here in Columbus, Mental Health Expert warns kids will self Harm due to DEI being cancelled, it also happens to be where Vivek's school District. https://tinyurl.com/bdhdztnf

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (FCrpy)

456 chiming in on TJM's commentary, Taiwan is a huge processor/chip mfg. That is a benefit for the US computer industry and normies everywhere.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

So 18 year old American kids should die so that Intel isn't forced to open a chip manufacturing company in a country that is slightly more expensive to do business in?

I don't get this argument. It's a stupid idea to outsource manufacturing in general, but much more to outsource crucially important manufacturing.

But if a company is going to so, they should know that the US Army is not going to be there to bleed and die so that they could save a few bucks per processor shipped.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (uCjyK)

457
74/25 for Ratcliffe

= 99

Who didn't vote?

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (FLFnM)

458 74 yes votes
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (NpAcC)

FOR WHOM?

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)

459 454 437 Well the man did fuck the shit out of bears and fought monsters in the woods, so I'd listen to him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:23 PM (xcxpd)

======

Sounds like a good book!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

I liked it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (xcxpd)

460 North Carolina is appropriate for North Carolina.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (TtkQJ)

461
SHAME on cuck schumer!!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (FLFnM)

462 oh, ok.

Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)

463 The overall takeaway from O'Keefe's reporting is that gay men are probably the single biggest security risk this country faces. Shocking that plowing another dudes ass is also a good indicator of low trustworthiness.

Posted by: Resist_we_much

Intelligence agencies for this very reason would ask if you are homosexual with a polygraph because you were so high risk

oftentimes it would be blackmail from a foreign agent.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (4pwAx)

464 Solomon Henderson, a 17-year-old student, allegedly opened fire in the cafeteria at Antioch High School on Wednesday, killing 16-year-old Josselin Corea Escalante and injuring a 17-year-old, police said.
. . . .
A Pinterest account linked to Henderson features photos of past school shooters, including the shooters from Parkland, Florida, and Uvalde, Texas, according to a source.
Henderson’s social media presence also shows he may have been in contact with 15-year-old Natalie Rupnow, who opened fire at the Abundant Life Christian School in Madison, Wisconsin, last month, according to law enforcement sources.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (L/fGl)

465 74 for Ratcliffe

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (HUq5R)

466 Steve Doocey was asking annoying questions to Trump about the Jan6 pardons. Even though I disagreed with Doocey's premise on the violence caused by some of the protest, it gave Trump an opportunity to respond.

Great, that's what a free press is supposed to do.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (fs1hN)

467 Fetterman not voting today for some reason.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (NpAcC)

468 This is a big decision, no need to rush into it.
Posted by: mikeski at January 23, 2025 02:25 PM (DgGvY)

Take a chance -- go ahead and Roll the Bones.

Posted by: Doof at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (gEQYA)

469

cuck schumer grandstanding now like a piece of shit

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (FLFnM)

470 Kids will self harm no matter what happens to Trannies, it's a mental illness

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (fwDg9)

471 Why are they closing a refinery in Texas?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (bz2GH)

472 Pompeo gave as a reason not to release all JFK files is because the files name names, and some of those people are still alive, so we have to keep it secret

he says there is no grand conspiracy to be revealed
just boring stuff
but it still should be secret

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (AOsQT)

473
Fuck You cuck schumer you old pervert

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (FLFnM)

474 The next FBI Director has read it and says it should be released.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:22 PM (LkLld)

Patel ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (NtVYv)

475 FOR WHOM?
Posted by: runner at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (g47mK)
******
Ratcliffe

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:28 PM (NpAcC)

476 467 Fetterman not voting today for some reason.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (NpAcC)

=====

He skips a vote that he could use as "bipartisan"?

Dear lord, this guy is fucking awful.

Please stop praising him, people, for saying less than crazy things sometimes.

He's a flake, a fake, and will vote against us every time his vote matters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

477 >>Patel ?

Yep.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:28 PM (LkLld)

478
Who didn't vote

Probably Vance

Posted by: Grammie's phone at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (HUq5R)

479 I hate how companies think they can buy your loyalty with a pizza party.

Oh look, free pizza tomorrow. Awesome!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (i6Awv)

480
Vote now for Cloture

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (FLFnM)

481 It's a stupid idea to outsource manufacturing in general, but much more to outsource crucially important manufacturing.

But if a company is going to so, they should know that the US Army is not going to be there to bleed and die so that they could save a few bucks per processor shipped.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (uCjyK)

Yes. Autarky now.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (FC8SQ)

482 He's a flake, a fake, and will vote against us every time his vote matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

Yup.. He saw the vote in PA and is now pretending to be "moderate."

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (VE6XX)

483 382 So...what if China eats Taiwan? Same feelings?

(I'm honestly shocked China didn't do this during Biden's interregnum. They are playing the long, long game, clearly)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:09 PM (xcxpd)

We apparently have long standing agreements that Taiwan is part of China already. We can't defend it as China can just sink cargo ships with missiles even without a Navy. And US carriers are not able to sink mainland China.

The best thing for us is to cool down the area and wait for the demographics to increase their problems.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (n7h9X)

484 He's a flake, a fake, and will vote against us every time his vote matters.
______

Sen Manchin in a hoodie.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (fs1hN)

485 Virginia reunification..

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (bz2GH)

486 74/25 for Ratcliffe

= 99

Who didn't vote?
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM

Florida's seat is still empty, right?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (aD39U)

487 He skips a vote that he could use as "bipartisan"?

Dear lord, this guy is fucking awful.

Please stop praising him, people, for saying less than crazy things sometimes.

He's a flake, a fake, and will vote against us every time his vote matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)
********
Yes let us all never forget this day.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2025 02:30 PM (NpAcC)

488 I don't get this argument. It's a stupid idea to outsource manufacturing in general, but much more to outsource crucially important manufacturing.
---

It's not a stupid idea that they are an ally, an outpost, for us, on China's doorstep and a marker against China's aggression. Preferring the US to be king of the hill and not a subservient nation.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 02:30 PM (TtkQJ)

489 he says there is no grand conspiracy to be revealed
just boring stuff
but it still should be secret

Posted by: Don Black

Then there's no reason not to release it.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 23, 2025 02:30 PM (i6Awv)

490
Florida's seat is still empty, right?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (aD39U)

No.. Ohio is sworn in too

Posted by: It's me donna at January 23, 2025 02:30 PM (VE6XX)

491 apparently the chyron is wrong

fancy that....

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (94/H1)

492 >>Florida's seat is still empty, right?

No. Ron appointed the former AG of FL Ashley Moody.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (LkLld)

493
Florida's seat is still empty, right?
Posted by: Grump928

Negative

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (FLFnM)

494 492 >>Florida's seat is still empty, right?

No. Ron appointed the former AG of FL Ashley Moody.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (LkLld)

======

She and Vance's replacement got seated earlier this week, so they're voting on all of this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

495 He skips a vote that he could use as "bipartisan"?

Dear lord, this guy is fucking awful.

Please stop praising him, people, for saying less than crazy things sometimes.

He's a flake, a fake, and will vote against us every time his vote matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

Chill out, bro; it’s laundry day. My dress hoodie was getting pretty rank.

Posted by: Fetterman at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (FC8SQ)

496 NOOD

Posted by: browndog howling at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (TTAGa)

497 It's a stupid idea to outsource manufacturing in general, but much more to outsource crucially important manufacturing.

But if a company is going to so, they should know that the US Army is not going to be there to bleed and die so that they could save a few bucks per processor shipped.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (uCjyK)

Yes. Autarky now.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 23, 2025 02:29 PM (FC8SQ)

I was actually shocked these recent years about how bad our military industry is and has been. Us, and Europe can't produce shells enough to match what Russia is using for years? And Europe even gave up on promising that?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:32 PM (n7h9X)

498 495 Chill out, bro; it’s laundry day. My dress hoodie was getting pretty rank.
Posted by: Fetterman at January 23, 2025 02:31 PM (FC8SQ)

=======

This is really my fault.

I don't have the refined taste to discern between your dress and regular hoodie.

Mea culpa.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

499
Trust not in Fetterman

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:32 PM (AOsQT)

500 499
Trust not in Fetterman
Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:32 PM (AOsQT)

======

I trust him 100%.

I trust him to behave exactly as I predict he will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025 02:32 PM (GBKbO)

501 470 Kids will self harm no matter what happens to Trannies, it's a mental illness
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (fwDg9)

The Mental Health Expert was worried that the canceling of DEI will cause undue mental health problems that will lead to Self Harm,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 23, 2025 02:33 PM (FCrpy)

502
NOOD

noood

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 23, 2025 02:33 PM (FLFnM)

503
he says there is no grand conspiracy to be revealed
just boring stuff
but it still should be secret

Posted by: Don Black
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It's been like 61 years
Any adult "spy" or agent, law enforcement, etc has almost certainly died by now.

Posted by: Leupold at January 23, 2025 02:33 PM (4pwAx)

504 Abundant Life Christian School shooting latest: Motive appears to be combination of factors, police say

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We'll probably never know the true combination of factors, police explained.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 23, 2025 02:33 PM (L/fGl)

505 It's not a stupid idea that they are an ally, an outpost, for us, on China's doorstep and a marker against China's aggression. Preferring the US to be king of the hill and not a subservient nation.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 23, 2025 02:30 PM (TtkQJ)

You people have lost every war of the last 80 years. Why would anyone listen to you?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 23, 2025 02:33 PM (FC8SQ)

506 He skips a vote that he could use as "bipartisan"?

Dear lord, this guy is fucking awful.

Please stop praising him, people, for saying less than crazy things sometimes.

He's a flake, a fake, and will vote against us every time his vote matters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 23, 2025

He's learned from Manchin...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 23, 2025 02:36 PM (exHjb)

507 YouTube has a channel with a couple of NY kids driving through Appalachia and interviewing people they meet. One was a trip on the Ohio side of the Ohio River. Nearly everyone they spoke to said there were almost no jobs since this or that factory closed down. Many are on drugs, downtowns nearly empty, empty houses falling apart. Devastating. But there is still spirit in the people. Bring back manufacturing and maybe we can help these people.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 23, 2025 02:36 PM (fs1hN)

508 A federal judge on Thursday temporarily blocked President Donald Trump’s executive order ending the constitutional guarantee of birthright citizenship regardless of the parents’ immigration status. Reagan U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour, 81, ruled in the case brought by the states of Washington, Arizona, Illinois and Oregon, which argue the 14th Amendment and Supreme Court case law have cemented birthright citizenship.

Posted by: SMOD at January 23, 2025 02:36 PM (RHGPo)

509 chiming in on TJM's commentary, Taiwan is a huge processor/chip mfg. That is a benefit for the US computer industry and normies everywhere.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 23, 2025 02:19 PM (xcxpd)

So 18 year old American kids should die so that Intel isn't forced to open a chip manufacturing company in a country that is slightly more expensive to do business in?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 23, 2025 02:26 PM (uCjyK)

The US needs duplicates of all these industries locally in case of major wars. All of Taiwan is in range of these new missiles.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 23, 2025 02:36 PM (n7h9X)

510 Taiwan and Ukraine are very different in their strategic value to the United States. Taiwan means South Korea and Japan, the Phillippines, and, eventually, Indonesia. Essentially, the entire Eastern Asia sector of the globe.

So, no. China does not get Taiwan unless the Taiwanese, the South Koreans, and the Japanese concur with the US.

Posted by: mrp at January 23, 2025 02:41 PM (rj6Yv)

511 he says there is no grand conspiracy to be revealed
just boring stuff

Posted by: Don Black at January 23, 2025 02:27 PM (AOsQT)

Which is exactly what someone in on a grand conspiracy would say.

Posted by: ... at January 23, 2025 02:46 PM (mg05v)

512 Hegeth is in 51-49 via cspan.

Posted by: whig at January 23, 2025 02:58 PM (ctrM5)

513 A lot of blocks for appointments, and progress of any type has been bought and sold, in my opinion, with career diplomats and politicians. For the highest bidder to stuff their pockets forevermore.

Ripping security, to the tune of $2million/year for that fat toad Pompeo and others will save money and stop their damn propaganda. They spew nonsense from their puppet masters, keeping this country on hold for getting a damn thing done. Bolton probably wet his pants and tugged on his moustache he's so freaked out to lose power, or whatever type of power and bullshit he had in promoting eternal war somewhere on the planet.

I AM LOVING THIS WEEK! Every day multiple good things are happening. Our President is not playing. He is not a true politician, thank God. He is getting it done!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 23, 2025 03:15 PM (gi+MR)

514 YouTube has a channel with a couple of NY kids driving through Appalachia and interviewing people they meet. One was a trip on the Ohio side of the Ohio River. Nearly everyone they spoke to said there were almost no jobs since this or that factory closed down. Many are on drugs, downtowns nearly empty, empty houses falling apart. Devastating. But there is still spirit in the people. Bring back manufacturing and maybe we can help these people.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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'Hillbilly Elegy' addressed this at length. I have spent a great deal of time over the years traveling and camping in Appalachia, from N. GA, north to Maine. It is a culture of proud people, who have been ground down by political winds.

Posted by: Democrats at January 23, 2025 03:17 PM (XeU6L)

515 Oops... /Democrats

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Posted by: The Blackout Film at January 23, 2025 03:48 PM (i6PSB)

517 Brue-Rats want to keep their dark secrets from us like UN/CFR/Global Government all under their control

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 23, 2025 04:56 PM (wGqjj)

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