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Read a short story by Cleve F Adams last week. Default With Doom. Hard boiled detective fiction. Thought it might help writing the detective novel with ALH writers. But, nobody cares about that. Off to find another story.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM (0eaVi) 2
Part 1 of 2
For this week's book thread, I'd like to highlight a substack post made by author John Van Stry about what he calls "The Rothfuss Effect" and how it negatively impacts the income of Indy authors: https://tinyurl.com/mt6ww25x In a nutshell, the effect is that readers of Indy authors seem to have no patience if a first book leads into a sequel or intended series, abandoning the series after the first book because they have zero faith that the subsequent novels will be written and released. Some abandon immediately after the first book, some if the next book isn't out very quickly after the first (a few months at most.) What John didn't go into is why it's called the Rothfuss effect, so I will. Patrick Rothfuss created what was intended to be a trilogy called "The Kingkiller Chronicle". Book 1 "The Name of the Wind" was released in 2007, Book 2 "The Wise Man's Fear" was released in 2011. There is a third that has been "planned" since then but hasn't been released called "The Doors of Stone" but his editor (Betsy Wollheim) stated in 2020 that she had "never seen a word of book three", and suspected that Rothfuss stopped writing in 2014. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM (O7YUW) 3
Part 2 of 2
And yes, this is the same thing George R.R. Martin did with his "A Song of Ice and Fire" series of books (better known and recognized by the first book's title, "A Game of Thrones".) This caused a lot of readers to have no faith in the "Bring the series across the finish line" abilities of not only these two authors, but pretty much all authors. Television studios didn't exactly help with multiple cancellations of fans' favourite tv shows without warning, and without the show being able to get to a satisfying conclusion. The world we live in with instant gratification being the norm, and smartphones causing people's attention spans and patience to reach gnat-like durations hasn't helped either. Larry Correia has a blog post from April 18, 2023 basically telling readers to get over it and support the authors they like the stories from, otherwise they'll stop writing because they can't make money at it. https://tinyurl.com/msza7ywz John and Larry are both right. Just support your favourite authors by buying their books and don't be those idiots who doom a series before it can even get going because of two past authors who screwed over their fan bases. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM (O7YUW) 4
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Anyway, less than 100 pages to go in Martin Gilbert's Churchill a Life Didn't know but could have guess the Soviets imprisoned and murdered many Polish people to take over Poland AFTER WWII was over Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2025 09:02 AM (fwDg9) 7
Television studios didn't exactly help with multiple cancellations of fans' favourite tv shows without warning, and without the show being able to get to a satisfying conclusion. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM Preach!!! Posted by: Pissed-Off Firefly Fans at January 19, 2025 09:04 AM (tljrc) 8
The top pic. Our world is a fascinating place and this confirms it. Not all is bad and I try to find joy in it. Hopefully the US isn't as bad as we here see it.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 19, 2025 09:04 AM (2NHgQ) 9
Didn't know but could have guess the Soviets imprisoned and murdered many Polish people to take over Poland AFTER WWII was over
Posted by: Skip They also kept many of their German POWs in slave labor camps for a decade after the war ended. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:06 AM (9gKAh) 10
Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. Mine was wonderful.
Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 09:06 AM (yTvNw) 11
I'm thoroughly enjoying this reread of "Fellowship" and I'm particularly struck at how well Tolkien slowly but inexorably ramps up the tension during the hobbits' flight from Hobbiton.
I'm curious as to why the residents of the Shire weren't more freaked out by the Black Riders. It was more This queer-lookin' furriner was askin' after you, Mister Baggins, but I shooed him off my farm!" Could they cloud people's minds to where they saw a regular, if skeevy, human? It brings to mind this passage from the Bored of the Rings: "There are those that say he acts like he's got something to hide, they say," came a strange voice from the corner shadows. The voice belonged to a man, a stranger to the boggies of the Bag Eye, a stranger they had understandably overlooked because of his rather ordinary black cape, black chain mail, black mace, black dirk, and perfectly normal red glowing fires where his eyes should have been. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:07 AM (kpS4V) 12
Good Lord, I thought those Luke Cage stories would be so bad that they would be funny. Nope -- they were just bad. Bring on Iron Fist!
In dishonor of the late James Earl Carter, I'm reading the Destroyer series book "Missing Link." Copyright 1980. This time, the president's beer-swilling brother-in-law has disappeared, minutes after he negotiated a plutonium deal with Libyan officials. Any similarity to real people and events is coincidental. My, my. If you know the Destroyer series, you have an idea what will happen. If not, pick up one and treat yourself. I'm being brief (for me) because I'm wrapping up a weekend at my alma mater and need to hit the road for home. Rock Chalk Jayhawk! Posted by: Weak Geek at January 19, 2025 09:07 AM (9e9fp) 13
I'm on book 3 of Andrew Moriarty's "Decline and Fall of the Galactic Empire" series. Here the ragtag team has hired out as an Imperial Mercenary crew. In "New Oregon", where they speak Spanish and a bewildering civil war has broken out. They're fighting for the legitimate government which has attracted some sus allies.
AH Lloyd's readers might recognise some parallels . . . Posted by: gKWVE at January 19, 2025 09:08 AM (gKWVE) 14
Morning, Book Folken,
This week I finished the sixth novel in the Parker the tough thief series by Richard Stark, The Seventh, filmed in 1968 as The Split, so you may have seen paperback editions titled that. I'd read it long enough ago that I'd forgotten the plot and events, so it was essentially new to me. It contains a neat trick: The "amateur" who steps into the middle of Parker's getaway after a stadium robbery and grabs their money is never given a name. Parker only thinks of him as "the amateur." And we don't need to know his name, as I'm sure Stsark (Donald E. Westlake) realized. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:09 AM (omVj0) 15
I keep a list of authors whose series are in progress and check it occasionally to see if a new volume is out.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:10 AM (kpS4V) 16
Good Sunday morning, horde!
Larry Correia is correct. I have lots of other things to read while I wait for an author to write something else. I read and (mostly) enjoyed the first two books of the Rothfuss trilogy. If he ever does get around to writing the third, I'll read it. If not, oh, well. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 09:11 AM (OX9vb) 17
A few weeks ago, I stumbled across a gem in a used bookstore, a pristine copy of JW Vaughn's book, With Crook at the Rosebud. Vaughn, a historian, compiled the diaries of Lt John Bourke and other eyewitnesses to the battle of Rosebud Creek, where General Crook did battle with Crazy Horse.
The battle is not well known; despite the fact that a thousand US cavalry met a like number of Sioux. The sprawling battle might be considered a draw, except for the fact that Crook returned to his camp to recuperate his troops, and did not continue his task of moving 30 miles North from Rosebud creek. Because of this, he was not in position as planned for the pincer movement coordinated with General Custer at the Little Bighorn, and led to the infamous destruction of Custer's forces. That battle is well known, but could have had a very different outcome had Crook followed the plan. This book gives the details of the Rosebud battle, and an insight into how Crook's failure to follow through played an important role in the tragedy that occurred a week later. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:11 AM (9gKAh) Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:12 AM (q3u5l) 19
Thanks for another dandy Book Thread, Perfessor!
The local library had some Dean Koonz paperbacks on sale so I bought them, even though I don't recall reading his work before. I'm sure they are Moron Recommended, so they must be good. Currently reading Mansfield Park by Jane Austen. So far, quite good! Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 19, 2025 09:12 AM (rxCpr) 20
No finished mountaineering books, although I am reading The Mountain by Ed Viesturs. I like Ed, but he jumps around a bit in his books. I was distracted by typewriters. I now own an Everest K2 and an Olympia SM3. I have one more K2 on the way and an AMC. I will be busy cleaning machines for a bit.
Last time I was involved with typewriter people on the internet, things were more civil. I'll have to see how it goes. Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 19, 2025 09:13 AM (NQtI0) 21
@14 --
Westlake/Stark did that with some cities, too. In "Comeback," we're never told where the action takes place. Decide for yourself. Posted by: Weak Geek at January 19, 2025 09:14 AM (9e9fp) 22
Currently I'm into an omnibus of Agatha Christies, Surprise Endings by Hercule Poirot from about 1936. The first in it is The A.B.C. Murders from 1934 (?), which appears to be an early serial killer novel. But since it's rarely included on a list of such mysteries, I suspect Christie has a trick in store for us. I read it long ago as well, but have forgotten the murderer, so it's new to me.
The other two are Murder in Three Acts, which I suppose is about the theatre (always a fascination with playwright Christie), and Cards on the Table, which I think features a bridge game. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:14 AM (omVj0) 23
NaCly pointed me to Eisenhower's Lieutenants after I wished for a study comparable to Freeman's Lee's Lieutenants. I'm only done w/volume 1 of 2 so my opinion is still being formed. And it's been several years since I read LL, so I may not remember it all that well.
At first glance its intent is different. It's a great study in the events of the western front of WW2, but where Lee had a prominent place in LL, Eisenhower (so far) in EL is a bit player. Different wars and Eisenhower didn't have to deal w/so many of his commanders dying off and IIRC didn't have the same authority to replace or promote them. Still, it's given me a different appreciation of the western front. It was more than D-Day, MarketGarden, and Bastogne. Unlike Perfesser, I find Magic of Recluse and its successor two of the very few of Modisett's books I like. Maybe because I read them first and he does make "magic" cost its users. He understands little of economics and can't write more than 2 or 3 characters well. All of them in all of his series make the same complaints about the same things. Posted by: yara at January 19, 2025 09:17 AM (fUPOV) 24
Haven't looked at the economics of used book stores video yet, but if memory serves from reading about it some years back, the guy behind the counter who offers you what seems a low price for what you bring into the store has to triple or quadruple his money when he resells it. And who knows when he'll actually resell it. So I tend not to haggle either when bringing in or purchasing.
Except once. Somebody offered me 40 bucks for a first printing of Stephen King's Carrie -- "There's just so much King on the market now, so..." I sold it myself later on Amazon for 400, and didn't frequent that guy's shop very often after that. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:18 AM (q3u5l) 25
Westlake/Stark did that with some cities, too. In "Comeback," we're never told where the action takes place. Decide for yourself.
Posted by: Weak Geek at January 19, 2025 *** In an early one in the series, Parker and his crew mount a robbery in New Jersey, just across from Manhattan. Part of the plot turns on the fact that the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge did not exist then. And a good part of the story takes place in the Barrens, the wild swampy area of New Jersey. So Westlake often set his stories in a definitely recognizable New York; see the Dortmunder tales. But Parker is a traveler who goes into robbery jobs all over the country, so a nameless city works fine. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:18 AM (omVj0) 26
I began my annual LOTR reading, the 59th if I did the math right. It feels like coming back to a comfortable home. And the weather has been lousy: cold, windy, and wet. Perfect reading weather. The supplies are at hand: plenty of good coffee, tea, Lagavulin 16, my favorite porter to be sipped over the next few weeks. And I was able to score 2 pounds of one of my favorite pipe tobaccos (which has now been discontinued). The one volume flex cover edition I got recently is working as I hoped with decent size text and it lies open easily. Bliss!
In the back of my mind, considering the election and inaugural tomorrow, there is a sense of hope and renewal that makes a nice background to my reading. Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 09:20 AM (yTvNw) 27
I'm curious as to why the residents of the Shire weren't more freaked out by the Black Riders. It was more This queer-lookin' furriner was askin' after you, Mister Baggins, but I shooed him off my farm!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:07 AM (kpS4V) --- The text gives the answer - they aren't used to Big People, particularly in Hobbiton, so have no idea what is "normal." Plus, the Riders were trying to be subtle. As subtle as they could be, but those who knew more about Big People (Farmer Maggott) knew they were unnatural. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:21 AM (ZOv7s) 28
also, week before last (should've been in last week's SMBT) I read Malcolm Gladwell's Talking to Strangers about trusting people we talk to. Or not. And how both are fraught with problems.
Posted by: yara at January 19, 2025 09:22 AM (fUPOV) 29
yara at January 19, 2025 09:17 AM (fUPOV)
I read the single volume abridged version of 'Lee's Lieutenants' by Freeman last summer. Would the three volume version be worth it? Posted by: dantesed at January 19, 2025 09:23 AM (Oy/m2) 30
I liked Modessit's Spellsong series, at least the first few I read, With its magic based on music and song.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:24 AM (kpS4V) 31
We hear a great deal about 'recent' upheavals and resets of higher education curriculum, but don't often remember the really big changes that went on just after the civil war.
When we say Great Books, we mean a pretty firm and challenging program. But when the term was first bandied, it stood for a compression of the traditional trivium and quadrivium. Scholars of that period, who we see as sort of super-literate now ("After all, there was so much less to know then!"), complained bitterly about all the leftovers being tossed into the English major basket after the bones had been picked. There was a sudden expectation that the fine points of persuasive argument, and the whole (distinct) art of choosing tone and language, would be absorbed through wicking, or caught onto by infectious enthusiasm. Generations of stories about professors and their classes play on the successes and failures of this. All that remains of the system they had before that is poor young JQ Adams complaining about his homework load. FWIW this is the first period in which "engineering" showed up in colleges as a major. Before that, it was just West Point. Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 09:24 AM (zdLoL) 32
John and Larry are both right. Just support your favourite authors by buying their books and don't be those idiots who doom a series before it can even get going because of two past authors who screwed over their fan bases.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM (O7YUW) --- When I finally decided to get serious and write books, my wife gave me some excellent advice. First and foremost, keep writing. An author with one book is generally ignored. People want to see if you have momentum and then they will swoop in and read your whole catalog. The other thing I did was wait until the whole Man of Destiny series was completed (albeit in draft form) before publishing any of it. Each new volume coming out spurred people to buy the ones before and its completion led to the most sales of all. The market is what it is. Keep writing. Once you have a catalog, then you can focus on promoting it. The days of first-book best-sellers are gone. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:25 AM (ZOv7s) 33
I'm not sure how many used book stores we have in town now. There was a classic one that used to be on Chartres St. in the French Quarter, only a few blocks from where I grew up. But it closed a couple of years ago. There's a sign indicating one in a shopping center on a major street in the suburban area where I live, and I know I visited it years ago. I need to see if it's still there.
There used to be one in the Faubourg Marigny, the neighborhood ust downriver from the Quarter. A buddy of mine worked there, and I visited one cold morning in Jan. of '87. The odd thing? The owner turned out to have been a neighbor of mine when I was a kid twenty-five years before -- she lived in the upstairs apartment. She had a bulldog named Lona that my brother and I played with in the patio. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:25 AM (omVj0) 34
Booken morgen horden
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:25 AM (J5RCE) 35
As one of the thread's resident comic book readers, I read a lot of super-hero stories. But modern super-hero book, because those are generally pretty bad. I do keep tabs on current goings-on via youtube review videos, and those paint a pretty bleak picture. Most of the big stories seem to be written by jagoffs, with the intent to actively piss off the readership.
At least, that's the impression that reviews give. But sometimes I wonder if that's really the case. I wonder if the reviewers that I watch are overstating things, or if the algorithm is directing me solely to negative reviews... ...Nope! The books are just as bad as advertised! Story to follow my next comment. Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 09:25 AM (Lhaco) 36
Since we're going to a Mass different from our usual time, I actually get to contribute in real-time this morning. I read Escape from Evil's Darkness by Father Robert Spitzer, S.J. This is the 2nd volume of his "Trilogy."
This book has discussions of the Catholic Church, the primacy of the Pope, spiritual conversion, and moral conversion. Like all of his books, this one has a huge bibliography and lots of footnotes. I had mixed feelings on this book. The individual sections were quite good, BUT this is a rather thick book and probably would have been better if published as two individual books. However, I think Fr. Spitzer got trapped by his outline for a planned set of 3 books. Overall rating is 4.25/5.0. If you don't believe in Satan and his minions, you're not going to get the full effect of Fr. Spitzer's arguments. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2025 09:26 AM (pJWtt) 37
JTB, which pipe tobacco was it that you mention?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:27 AM (omVj0) 38
In an Arabian country, I and a pair of fellow Americans were being framed for a serious crime against the Big Kahuna of the kingdom. We were facing torture and death.
But in the end, we were exonerated, the fiends were apprehended and hauled off. As a reward for my part in clearing things up, the potentate flew me home on one of his private jets, along with a box of gold and cash, a great number of expensive gifts, and his daughter, with whom I had fallen in love. I could not bring home the pair of camels, but I couldn't refuse them, so I made arrangements for someone there to take them. This would be a great story, except that I can't exactly recall the nature of the fraud, nor anything I supposedly did between being in deep trouble and the arrest of the perps. Such are dreams. Good morning, Booklanders. Posted by: mindful webworker - if I just need a plot... at January 19, 2025 09:28 AM (Mud1j) 39
@29: Would the three volume version (of Lee's Lieutenants) be worth it?
I suspect not, but I haven't seen it. I first ran across it in the Wilmington DE public library when I was riding the bus and had lots of time to read. And found the full set at a furniture consignment store (for $75) and bought it. I had seen Vol 1 at Borders for $25 in paperback so I wasn't losing any money. If it's a good abridgement, probably not; I'll have to let others comment. Posted by: yara at January 19, 2025 09:28 AM (fUPOV) 40
unless you are wearing these pants
If I don't have time to read the post or comments, I always take time to check out the pants. Uh… what pants? Posted by: mindful webworker - fabulous link at January 19, 2025 09:30 AM (Mud1j) 41
A copy (mostly) of a post I made in last week's Book Thread:
John Van Stry's fifth book in his "Wolfhounds" series, "Manifest Destiny" is out. I'm about 60% through it and it's a very enjoyable read (no surprise there.) The push to take back colony worlds from the usurper continues, and you get a really good look at how it's not just about the fleet battles, but it's also about solving logistics and economic problems on the worlds they're taking back, while still continuing to try to push forward and win the war. Further, John's a couple of sales at Amazon for two of his books in the USA and Canada. First, he's got a one-day sale coming up on Wednesday January 22 {That's in three days!} for "Stand Alone" (the first book in his Wolfhounds series.) It'll be $2.99 on that date. Second, he's got a month-long sale on "Serendipity", the first book in his "Ghost Warrior" series. It's $1.99. So if you've been waiting for a sale to start either of those two series, well there you go. Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:30 AM (O7YUW) 42
I'm almost finished with Graham Greene's biography of Charles Wilmott, 2nd Earl Rochester. Lord Rochester's Money is a fascinating and detailed account of a man who was very much of his age - his father was a Royal commander, and he moved in the highest circles of Restoration England. He was brilliant, charming, handsome, perpetually in debt, an incurable rake and also a poet and satirist of considerable skill.
This is a large-format volume, lavishly illustrated with full-color reproductions of the many portraits of Lord Rochester, his wife, children, King Charles II, the mistresses they shared, and also period drawings of life. Greene assumes some familiarity with Rochester's work, but provides many examples for those unfamiliar with it. One thing that amazes me is how many letters have survived through four centuries, and Greene includes photos of these to show the handwriting. By this point, English is more familiar to us, so the feelings are more relatable. (cont) Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM (ZOv7s) 43
Has anyone been to that massive King used book store in Detroit? Have family up there and would like to check it out.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM (Dm8we) 44
People have tried used book stores in this town on occasion. Since I moved here in late '85, there have been 2, along with a couple of people maintaining booths in larger resale shops. None of it lasts for long.
Once upon a time, I gave a little thought to opening one myself but after a couple of aspirin and a quick nap that thought went away. I can't think of a faster way to go broke. Depending on your location, YMMV. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM (q3u5l) 45
Good morning Perfessor.
I used to love the bookmobile. But I never saw a Mongolian one before. Very cool. Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2025 09:33 AM (W/lyH) 46
Also, a thanks to the Moron that suggested reading some of the Monsieur Pamplemousse series by Michael Bond. I'm reading Monsieur Pamplemousse published in 1985. I'm not certain where this falls within the series.
Amusing, with references to French cooking, French mores and some sexual innuendos. There appears to be 16 books in the series. However, I suspect that a few of these books will be more than enough. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2025 09:33 AM (pJWtt) 47
I love your topics today Perfesser!
The used bookstore meme IS me. And what we consume - whether through reading, or watching films, or scrolling through social media, absolutely feeds us mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. We can choose to stiff ourselves with junk mental doritos or with wholesome sustenance. Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:33 AM (OTdqV) 48
The used bookstore in my hometown is a pretty good one. They do a lot of their business through the sale of puzzles and games, and they give you credit if you bring a book in/back, so theoretically they could sell the same book over and over again.
There's also a neat used bookstore in Arkansas that sells its books by the pound; you put your selections on a scale at the front desk and they charge based on that. Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2025 09:33 AM (lHPJf) 49
The Dune novels are an infinite series where each is half as good as the one before.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 19, 2025 09:34 AM (Gqoy+) 50
So, over the holidays I was away from my physical comics, so I dipped into my digital comic collection. One of the books I looked at was "Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt." He was an old 70's-era superhero whose publisher went bankrupt a while ago. But recently his rights were picked up by a smaller publisher who hired some dork name Kieron Gillian to write a revival. I recognized the author's name as a guy who's done a lot of work for Marvel comics, but I decided to read the comic anyway. That was a mistake.
The book starts out with an alien invasion of Earth, which our 'hero' does nothing about. At least until a bunch of other heroes literally line up in his house and beg him to help. His help turns out to be just telling the others what to do, and the invasion is thwarted in a couple pages. Our hero then, seemly without any evidence, declares that the invasion was staged, and that it could only have been planned and pulled off by and evil version of himself. At that point, I stopped 'reading' the comic and just started scrolling through the file to see if the author was ever going to write something interesting. He didn't. (continued) Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 09:35 AM (Lhaco) 51
Uh… what pants?
Posted by: mindful webworker - fabulous link at January 19, 2025 09:30 AM (Mud1j) --- Whoops! Whoopsie! Should be fixed now... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2025 09:35 AM (BpYfr) 52
(cont) Restoration England has many similarities to our present situation. The Commonwealth was run (it is said) by major generals with swords and Bibles, and there was considerable repression, particularly regarding art, music, dancing, theater, and literature.
The early Restoration was therefore something of a mad house of partying, drinking, adultery, bawdy houses and of course lots of dancing and revelry. This is resonating with me, as we see people at last speaking their minds again without fear. The Restoration was exactly that - a return to the familiar, and as time passed, the excesses were curbed and Rochester found himself ostracized and isolated because what could be written off as youthful exuberance at the age of 20, was unseemly in one's 30s. Greene is foreshadowing his early death, which was not surprising considering that at one point he was continuously drunk for five years. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:36 AM (ZOv7s) 53
There's no question in my mind that what I've read in my life has shaped my beliefs and my character...
I'm thinking some of us didn't really read just the articles. Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2025 09:36 AM (W/lyH) 54
11 ... AHE,
The only Hobbits that actually meet a Black Rider are Gaffer Gamgee with his less than perfect eyesight and hearing and Farmer Maggot. The Gaffer bit has some humor since he is so provincial and sure of his place in the world that even a Black Rider just annoys him in his ignorance. Maggot, to his credit, doesn't quail at the meeting despite his fear, which points out what a great character his is and indicates that Hobbits in general may be tougher than they appear. BTW, quotes from Bored of the Rings are always fun. I can't read it without laughing out loud. Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 09:37 AM (yTvNw) 55
>I'm thoroughly enjoying this reread of "Fellowship" and I'm particularly struck at how well Tolkien slowly but inexorably ramps up the tension during the hobbits' flight from Hobbiton.
>I'm curious as to why the residents of the Shire weren't more freaked out by the Black Riders. It was more This queer-lookin' furriner was askin' after you, Mister Baggins, but I shooed him off my farm!" I imagine that the fear that they radiated could be deliberately amped up or down. Farmer Maggot, an extremely tough person by mortal standards, was completely spooked by them, but understated when he talked about it. The chapter Mines of Moria is one of the best chapters in any book. Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2025 09:38 AM (lhenN) 56
I haven't been to a bookstore in over ten years now. Usually, I look at Amazon Kindle for free samples or go to eBay browse for hardbacks that interest me.
Am I the only one that does this? Posted by: dantesed at January 19, 2025 09:38 AM (Oy/m2) 57
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:14 AM (omVj0)
I really liked Christie's "The ABC Murders." It's written in a somewhat unique fashion compared to the other Poirot stories, and she does a good job of faking you out as to who the killer is. Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2025 09:38 AM (lHPJf) 58
Used bookstores are a pleasure I cannot pass up. I invariably find something that I just have to purchase, and can spend hours browsing through books that are far superior to most of the deck being published now. There is also the side benefit that the wares are usually reasonably priced
That being said, I note how few books are present in many people's homes that I visit, and realise that the market is not large, and appears to be shrinking. I imagine that owning a used bookstore is probably a labor of love and not a path to riches. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (9gKAh) 59
Uh… what pants?
Posted by: mindful webworker - fabulous link at January 19, 2025 09:30 AM (Mud1j) --- Whoops! Whoopsie! Should be fixed now... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2025 09:35 AM (BpYfr) *** Well...hell. BBL. I gotta go find some pants. Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (W/lyH) 60
52 - If you listen to podcasts, David Crowther's History of England is currently on the Commonwealth.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (Dm8we) 61
"I suspect the collective library of the Moron Horde contains enough knowledge to rebuild a civilization from scratch."
Speaking of which, there is a book I've been considering, but it's expensive. "The Book: The Ultimate Guide to Rebuilding a Civilization." https://tinyurl.com/fmwnupcr I think I could get lost in the art for many hours--it's a beautiful book. And information medical, mechanical, military, culinary, etc. I simply don't know about the team of authors, though. Mostly Russian, looks like, with one declaring himself to be part of the "Burner community"(Burning Man), complete with danger hair. Going to ponder it some more. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (OX9vb) 62
"Peter Cannon: Thunderbolt" was the embodiment of everything wrong with modern comic book writing (and movie writing, and tv writing, and probably novel writing). The hero was an arrogant asshole but was treated as a total Mary Sue, there was no struggle, it was full of multiverse nonsense, and it ended with a sexuality swap of an established character. Absolute, utter garbage. I will no longer doubt any negative review of anything. They really can't exaggerate how dumb writing can be...
Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (Lhaco) 63
People have tried used book stores in this town on occasion. Since I moved here in late '85, there have been 2, along with a couple of people maintaining booths in larger resale shops. None of it lasts for long.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM (q3u5l) If you live in the Southwest Ohio region, Browse Awhile Books in Tipp City is worth a trip. It's located in an townhouse-style building within the old section of the city. Narrow storefront, but very long. A pretty yuge and varied selection. When I go, I always spend more than I planned. I don't go a lot because their prices are a bit high, but whoever finds the books has a pretty good eye. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2025 09:40 AM (pJWtt) 64
there used to be a shop (well I guess not really a shop) on Walnut Street by Rittenhouse Square that was a book swap.
It was run by a grizzled old man, assisted by his cat. I loved it so much but have no idea if he ever made any money there at all. it was literally a swap. You could not buy a book! You had to swap. Walnut St rents even then were exorbitant so he must have been independently wealthy? neat place tho Posted by: Black Orchid at January 19, 2025 09:40 AM (Pv3Rg) 65
The bookstore meme? I picture myself as Bogart in The Big Sleep meeting the young Dorothy Malone.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:40 AM (omVj0) 66
the best best best used book store is right up the road here
Baldwin's Book Shop look it up! it's the loveliest place. I go and just hang out for hours. Posted by: Black Orchid at January 19, 2025 09:42 AM (Pv3Rg) 67
That sounds pretty lamb that peter cannon series
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at January 19, 2025 09:42 AM (dJR17) 68
btw, and this might not be the forum to ask but I will anyway
Has anyone tried buying ebooks from Baen directly on their phone, then reading it on a kindle ereader? Not using a pc or laptop at all? Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:43 AM (0JWOm) 69
Speaking of cats in bookstores, there used to be a shop just inside the Quarter which had a handsome longhaired cat as mascot. Both are gone now, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0) 70
I'm giggling like a twelve-year-old over these boggie (hobbit) names: Dildo and Frito Bugger, Spam Gangree, Nat Clubfoot, Clotty Peristalt, and Old Poop of Backwater.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:44 AM (kpS4V) 71
Used bookstores are a pleasure I cannot pass up. I invariably find something that I just have to purchase, and can spend hours browsing through books that are far superior to most of the deck being published now. There is also the side benefit that the wares are usually reasonably priced
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (9gKAh) --- My tastes are such that used book stores are very hit or miss. A large store closed last month and I wasn't surprised. It was a bit off my usual pathways, but in July I dropped in to see if I could find something interesting and it was almost all 80s pulp trash. It was like a time capsule of a mall bookstore. Nothing truly vintage, just the detritus of a byegone age. I spent quite a while trying to find something, *anything* to buy. By contrast Curious Books almost always has something interesting. My last trip there saw me leave with a stack of Graham Greene, and I'm enjoying his lighter, conversational writing style along with his brevity. SO MUCH BREVITY. I love not having to hold up 1,000 page doorstopper for a change. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:45 AM (ZOv7s) 72
That being said, I note how few books are present in many people's homes that I visit, and realise that the market is not large, and appears to be shrinking. I imagine that owning a used bookstore is probably a labor of love and not a path to riches.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:39 AM (9gKAh) I was fortunate growing-up in a household where the Old Man was a polymath with a huge private library. Mom also read a lot, but she tended towards mysteries she got from the local library. Whenever I needed to do research, up to high school, I would just ask the Old Man and he would point me to the appropriate area of his personal collection. I inherited the book-bug, myself. I'm stunned at other people's lack of books when I'm in their houses. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2025 09:45 AM (pJWtt) 73
When I had a Barnes and Noble walking distance from my house I read more than a few books sitting in the big comfy chairs they had. It was my fake personal library.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 19, 2025 09:45 AM (D6PGr) 74
56 -
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. The closest bookshop is an hour's drive from here and I don't get there much at all. Nearly all my book buying is done online these days and nearly all of that is for the Kindle. When I lived in Chicago, I was scrounging through bookshops all the time even though I worked in one. Now -- not so much. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:45 AM (q3u5l) 75
John and Larry are both right. Just support your favourite authors by buying their books and don't be those idiots who doom a series before it can even get going because of two past authors who screwed over their fan bases.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM (O7YUW) Or, don't write multi-book series. As I've said before, I feel it's just a cheap way to write: book 27 of.......... Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 09:45 AM (0eaVi) 76
I'm giggling like a twelve-year-old over these boggie (hobbit) names: Dildo and Frito Bugger, Spam Gangree, Nat Clubfoot, Clotty Peristalt, and Old Poop of Backwater.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:44 AM (kpS4V) --- NOSEFINGERS! bellowed an irate drunk who, true to his name, had a finger jammed up his nostril to the second digit. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:46 AM (ZOv7s) 77
Books are rather unique…
Would it be pedantic of me to point out one of my major linguistic gripes? "Unique" can't have a diminishing modifier. Something cannot be "almost" or "nearly" or "somewhat" or "very" one of a kind. It's unique or it's not. I see this abuse a lot. (Sorry, Prof.) Huh. I was pretty sure Strunk covered this in Elements of Style, but a word-search at Gutenberg's copy turned up empty. https://grammarist.com/usage/unique/ I sometimes think of collecting all the linguistic speed bumps I encounter during a week reading online, or in videos, to gripe here on Sunday mornings. But it would be such a big list. The Petty Pedant Report. Posted by: mindful webworker - uniquely common at January 19, 2025 09:46 AM (Mud1j) 78
*That being said, I note how few books are present in many people's homes that I visit, and realise that the market is not large, and appears to be shrinking.*
Fair, if I go to your house and there are no books, I'm judging you. Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at January 19, 2025 09:46 AM (9yUzE) 79
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 09:47 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 09:48 AM (Zz0t1) 81
Ah, those pants! I would almost wear those.
Posted by: mindful webworker - with a MAGA hat at January 19, 2025 09:48 AM (Mud1j) 82
66 the best best best used book store is right up the road here
Baldwin's Book Shop -- The Barn? That place is a trap! You could lose days in there. Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:48 AM (0JWOm) 83
The bit about used bookstores in the post pretty well sums up my feelings. Mrs. JTB knows that I will be a long while anytime I go into the local used bookstore. I think it's been 15 minutes but it turns out to be an hour or more.
Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 09:48 AM (yTvNw) 84
@65 Hard to figure how she made any money, closing every rainy afternoon like that. Or maybe that's how she made it?
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 09:49 AM (zdLoL) 85
I'm giggling like a twelve-year-old over these boggie (hobbit) names: Dildo and Frito Bugger, Spam Gangree, Nat Clubfoot, Clotty Peristalt, and Old Poop of Backwater.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:44 AM (kpS4V) --- NOSEFINGERS! bellowed an irate drunk who, true to his name, had a finger jammed up his nostril to the second digit. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 *** Unfair and common of me, I know. But I remember the names of the Bored characters better than I do the original LoTR names. Of course I haven't reread Tolkien in a very long time, while my copy of Bored (a British edition I found in, get this, *a used bookstore*) is right here. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:49 AM (omVj0) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 09:49 AM (Zz0t1) 87
The original looked pretty good why couldnt they stay with that.
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at January 19, 2025 09:49 AM (dJR17) 88
I spend many hours in front of a screen each week as my occupation, and at the end of each day, my eyes hurt. I don't want to spend my off hours looking at a screen, so it is physical books for me. This has the added bonus of not relying on battery power or electricity, or the whims of the tech gods to not edit the stories after the fact, or to ban them ex post facto.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:49 AM (9gKAh) 89
What I read most throughout my life also shaped a lot about how I think.
Reading Workers Comp , Property and Liability claims files makes you distrust everyone but also teaches you how to organize your life and navigate red tape. Also makes you a Jack of all trades. Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 19, 2025 09:50 AM (D6PGr) 90
5 Hard to figure how she made any money, closing every rainy afternoon like that. Or maybe that's how she made it?
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 *** On top of that, there aren't that many rainy afternoons in LA. Maybe in the winter? James M. Cain's Mildred Pierce, set in southern CA, features a heavy rainstorm one New Year's Eve in the story. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:51 AM (omVj0) 91
Books are rather unique…
Would it be pedantic of me to point out one of my major linguistic gripes? "Unique" can't have a diminishing modifier. Something cannot be "almost" or "nearly" or "somewhat" or "very" one of a kind. It's unique or it's not. I see this abuse a lot. (Sorry, Prof.) Huh. I was pretty sure Strunk covered this in Elements of Style, but a word-search at Gutenberg's copy turned up empty. https://grammarist.com/usage/unique/ I sometimes think of collecting all the linguistic speed bumps I encounter during a week reading online, or in videos, to gripe here on Sunday mornings. But it would be such a big list. The Petty Pedant Report. Posted by: mindful webworker - uniquely common at January 19, 2025 09:46 AM (Mud1j) H.W. Fowler's A Dictionary of Modern English Usage (2nd ed., 1965), states that using the qualified "rather" is a no-no. However, he states that "almost" is appropriate. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2025 09:51 AM (pJWtt) 92
Putting aside modern super-hero comics in favor of older ones, I continued reading my Luke Cage Omnibus, as well as Wolverine Omnibus 3.
Luke Cage is very of-its-time. 70's blacksploitation. Fun, if you can look past some of the inherent silliness of 70's super-villains... I'm just now reaching the issues that Weak Geek is reading. Wolverine 3 is generally better, early 90's material with some very respectable creators. Larry Hama doing the writing, with Mark Silvestri drawing it. It's quite good. However.....I just finished an issue (35) where super-heroic-hijinks have transported Wolverine to 1937 Guernica. Ho boy. I'm guessing that AH Lloyd would throw a fit over all the inaccuracies I'm about to read about... Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 09:51 AM (Lhaco) Posted by: Black Orchid at January 19, 2025 09:51 AM (Pv3Rg) 94
There are a few youtube channels that talk about Tolkien's stories that is very similar to documentaries about Rome. The battle at the end of the second age was covered (spoilers, Elrond was there) and the story escalated up to the point where Isildur cut the ring.
The fall of Moria was covered. A hard battle took the narrow bridge at the east end. Then at the west end the lake was dammed, and the water was so high that the Watcher grabbed someone standing in the gate. These events seem to be coordinated by someone smarter than a goblin boss. Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2025 09:52 AM (lhenN) 95
I am torn between buying a book or settling for the free pdf scans
Here is the pdf on archive.org https://tinyurl.com/LatinMost1 Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:52 AM (0JWOm) 96
On the few occasions I pictured myself as Bogie meeting Dorothy Malone in the bookshop, she'd always end up saying, "You were beginning to interest me, vaguely. But forget it, fella -- buzz off."
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:52 AM (q3u5l) 97
Will we ever unlock the mysteries of true quantum teleportation, as shown in Star Trek?
The thing about teleportation, at least as portrayed in Star Trek, is that you need to be murdered to use it. You are literally disassembled then reassembled. ie, dead then not dead. Or are you? There no system that's perfect, so I imagine that each trip via teleport leaves you with some changes or flaws. How many trips can you take before these flaws in your reconstruction become evident? How long before Mr Spock believes that he's a brook trout and wants to be sautéed in butter? These are the questions which keep me up at night. Posted by: naturalfake at January 19, 2025 09:53 AM (iJfKG) 98
That camel sure has a fine strut looking demeaner about him.
*did I just gender assign?* Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 *** Camels are interesting beasts. A shame they're bad-tempered, or so I've read. Maybe only if they're mistreated. That rich-looking hair is *warm* -- I have a camel's hair sport jacket that is too warm to wear most of the year here. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:53 AM (omVj0) 99
On a camel, a library has to limit the number of books they can literally carry. So I'm guessing this children's library doesn't have the "banned books" of Florida.
Posted by: fozzy at January 19, 2025 09:53 AM (7PM4P) 100
Huh. I was pretty sure Strunk covered this in Elements of Style, but a word-search at Gutenberg's copy turned up empty.
https://grammarist.com/usage/unique/ Posted by: mindful webworker - uniquely common at January 19, 2025 09:46 AM (Mud1j) --- Being ungrammatical is part of style and the manner of it - erudite, rustic, someone trying to fake either approaches - is part of an author's voice. Style guides are just authors telling other authors to write as they do based on claimed authority. It's like King's On Writing. His autobiography was very useful, explaining much of his work, but his advice was basically how to write like he does, and I hate the way he writes. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:53 AM (ZOv7s) 101
Those pants are fine. I would wear them to taunt leftys from my back yard.
Posted by: fd at January 19, 2025 09:54 AM (vFG9F) 102
Finished A Hobbit, a Wardrobe, and a Great War: How J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis Rediscovered Faith, Friendship, and Heroism in the Cataclysm of 1914-1918 by Joseph Loconte.
Slow start, good finish. I recommend it. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 19, 2025 09:54 AM (u82oZ) 103
That top photo reminds me of Louis L'Amour talking about books on the frontier. In several stories he mentions how books were treasured although hard to transport safely and were carefully chosen.
It would be an amusing but frustrating exercise to think which books you would take to a distant place if you could just take a few. In my case it would require an extra conestoga wagon (at least) just for the books. Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 09:55 AM (yTvNw) 104
Because of this, he was not in position as planned for the pincer movement coordinated with General Custer at the Little Bighorn, and led to the infamous destruction of Custer's forces.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 09:11 AM (9gKAh) Let's not give the self-regarding idiot who got all his men killed the rank of general. He was a Lt. Col at the time. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 09:55 AM (0eaVi) 105
"How many trips can you take before these flaws in your reconstruction become evident? How long before Mr Spock believes that he's a brook trout and wants to be sautéed in butter?"
Only once if using the Infinite Improbability Drive. Posted by: fd at January 19, 2025 09:56 AM (vFG9F) 106
Television studios didn't exactly help with multiple cancellations of fans' favourite tv shows without warning, and without the show being able to get to a satisfying conclusion.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM While simultaneously keeping fan-hated shows going for seasons-on-end. Like Star Trek Discovery or (assumably) Rings of Power... It is a travesty that there are more seasons of Discovery than there are of Enterprise, or, even more blasphemously, than The Original Series. Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 09:56 AM (Lhaco) 107
43 Has anyone been to that massive King used book store in Detroit? Have family up there and would like to check it out.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM (Dm8we) ----- I have! We had a MiniMichiOhioMomee there. They have exquisite rare books as well as complete schlock (my two favorite categories). On one floor there's lots of old school pulp, and I got almost a dozen Tom Swift books. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (kpS4V) 108
Good morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (u82oZ) 109
Come to think of it, when Marlowe shoots it out with killer Lash Canino at the climax of the novel of Big Sleep, it's raining. The original short story Chandler cannibalized for use in the novel is called "Killer in the Rain."
It must rain sometimes in L.A., or we wouldn't have those big mudslides we read about. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0) 110
There no system that's perfect, so I imagine that each trip via teleport leaves you with some changes or flaws. How many trips can you take before these flaws in your reconstruction become evident? How long before Mr Spock believes that he's a brook trout and wants to be sautéed in butter?
These are the questions which keep me up at night. Posted by: naturalfake What could go wrong? Posted by: BrindleFly at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (9gKAh) 111
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Camels are interesting beasts. A shame they're bad-tempered, or so I've read. Maybe only if they're mistreated. That rich-looking hair is *warm* -- I have a camel's hair sport jacket that is too warm to wear most of the year here. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:53 AM (omVj0) I've always read they're pretty temperamental beasts. They work hard, until the don't want to. Then they'll spit on you in a "f*ck off" fashion and refuse to move. Seems there's a camel union afoot. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (Zz0t1) 112
Once upon a time, I gave a little thought to opening one myself ...I can't think of a faster way to go broke. Depending on your location, YMMV.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM (q3u5l) One would have to be wealthy enough to just enjoy it as a hobby. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 09:58 AM (OX9vb) 113
H.W. Fowler's A Dictionary of Modern English Usage (2nd ed., 1965), states that using the qualified "rather" is a no-no. However, he states that "almost" is appropriate.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 19, 2025 09:51 AM (pJWtt) --- Creating an oxymoron is often a way to convey ambiguity. Thus "rather unique" may be a way of saying it aspires to be unit, or is thought unique, but actually isn't. I should note that there are different cases for different style. My non-fiction voice is different than the ones I use in novels. In a recitation of fact, precision is essential, as it brevity. When you deviate, and throw in a flourish, it heightens the impact and ideally produces a chuckle from the reader, who can now get back into the organizational table of Nationalist division. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:59 AM (ZOv7s) 114
>The thing about teleportation, at least as portrayed in Star Trek, is that you need to be murdered to use it.
>These are the questions which keep me up at night. They must have kept McCoy up at night, but he was in the minority. Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2025 09:59 AM (lhenN) 115
Come to think of it, when Marlowe shoots it out with killer Lash Canino at the climax of the novel of Big Sleep, it's raining. The original short story Chandler cannibalized for use in the novel is called "Killer in the Rain."
It must rain sometimes in L.A., or we wouldn't have those big mudslides we read about. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0) --- Last week a local radio station played "It Never Rains in Southern California." Too soon? Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:00 AM (ZOv7s) 116
I've always read they're pretty temperamental beasts. They work hard, until the don't want to. Then they'll spit on you in a "f*ck off" fashion and refuse to move.
Seems there's a camel union afoot. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 09:57 AM (Zz0t1) ---- In Terry Pratchett's Discworld series camels are the greatest mathematician in the world. Not that anyone else in the world knows or cares, of course. They see camels as the ill-tempered beasts of burden we all know and love/loathe. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2025 10:00 AM (BpYfr) 117
Eons since I read it, but I think James Blish's Star Trek novel, Spock Must Die, dealt with that transporter issue.
And pre-dating that, Algis Budrys's terrific Rogue Moon. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 10:01 AM (q3u5l) 118
Of course I haven't reread Tolkien in a very long time, while my copy of Bored (a British edition I found in, get this, *a used bookstore*) is right here.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 09:49 AM (omVj0) ---- The BotR book wanted to be found! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:01 AM (kpS4V) 119
My dad was a blue collar guy who got his GED in the Marines at 17 and eventually retired from the Air Force as an E-6 but he read everyday of his life and we had a huge library in our house.
I grew up reading most of the classics via the Readers Digest Condensed library of books. Always wondered if I missed something or if RD did a great job in their editing. I’m sticking with the second option . Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 19, 2025 10:01 AM (D6PGr) 120
12 Good Lord, I thought those Luke Cage stories would be so bad that they would be funny. Nope -- they were just bad. Bring on Iron Fist!
I'm being brief (for me) because I'm wrapping up a weekend at my alma mater and need to hit the road for home. Rock Chalk Jayhawk! Posted by: Weak Geek at January 19, 2025 09:07 AM (9e9fp) Oh dear, you're making me scared to read on. I'm still only at issue 17. Hopefully there's a bit more cheesey fun before it gets ridiculous.... Also, I'm now laughing at the irony that the thread's two biggest comic-book-dorks went to KU (you) and arch-rival K-State (me). Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 10:01 AM (Lhaco) 121
Good morning
Haven't finished reading the comments yet but wanted to add that Patrick Rothfuss wrote a terrific novelette called The Narrow Road Between Desires. I read it a while back but thought it was brilliant. Somewhere I read tha Rothfuss is mentally ill and thought it sad that such a fabulous writer had been silenced. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:02 AM (t/2Uw) 122
There was a fantastic used book store in Berkeley called "Moe's Books." Moe was a 5'6", cigar smoking communist. But... his book store had everything.
They would take anything in trade, so I was able to do a tremendous amount of reading for about $10! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 19, 2025 10:02 AM (mQF7i) 123
They must have kept McCoy up at night, but he was in the minority.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2025 09:59 AM (lhenN) --- The interplay between future tech and limited television/film budgets is fascinating. "What are you doin' George?" "Making a space movie." "What are you doing will all these vintage guns? They got Mauser C96 Broomhandles in space?" "I'm on a budget. We'll throw some crap on them, no one will mind." Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:02 AM (ZOv7s) 124
Stagecoach from 1939 is ending on Grit. I need to read the original Ernest Haycox short story it's based on. Seems to me I've seen a collection of Western Hall of Fame short stories at my local library, and I'm pretty sure that's in it.
It better have Jack Shaefer's "Sergeant Houck" in it, though. Any collection of Western "classics" that does not have it is badly flawed. That is one of the finest short stories in any genre. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:02 AM (omVj0) 125
there aren't that many rainy afternoons in LA.
Ever notice how often it rains in Perry Mason? Can't get over it. Lots of arson, too. Ripped from the headlines? "Rather" is a conscious anglicism, just us trying to sound like auld country toffs. It has to be used rather sparingly, old man. Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 10:03 AM (zdLoL) 126
Let's not give the self-regarding idiot who got all his men killed the rank of general. He was a Lt. Col at the time.
Posted by: OrangeEnt At, yes, he was bucked down after the war, wasn't he? It is interesting, however, how he gets all of the blame when Crook and Reno also failed in their responsibilities. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:03 AM (9gKAh) 127
Quantum transportation of electrons is a working theory in real life right?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 19, 2025 10:04 AM (D6PGr) 128
Got on third of the way through Into the Silence: The Great War, Mallory, and the Conquest of Everest by Wade Davis.
Lost interest, probably before the fun part of the book. Returned it to the library. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 19, 2025 10:04 AM (u82oZ) 129
37 ... Good morning, Wolfus,
The tobacco is Mac Baren HH Burley Flake. I was able to get the last 2 pounds I saw anywhere. None of the online tobacconists have any of the HH line, or almost any Mac Baren in stock and no way to get more. That STG buyout (spits) really screwed us over. Stokkebye does a great job with their flake blends but they are all Virginia based. I would love to see them start a Burley flake offering. Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 10:04 AM (yTvNw) 130
In Terry Pratchett's Discworld series camels are the greatest mathematician in the world.
Not that anyone else in the world knows or cares, of course. They see camels as the ill-tempered beasts of burden we all know and love/loathe. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2025 10:00 AM (BpYfr) Well, it seems this place isn't the ONLY where math is banned. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:04 AM (Zz0t1) 131
Non book news:
'Ette Iris is in line for the rally today and just posted on X. Luckily we only got drizzle so far instead of snow. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:05 AM (t/2Uw) 132
I watched the 4 seasons of The Librarians last year. They must have had an idea that they weren't going be renewed since the final episode gave a wrap up of sorts. They could have continued with new storylines if a 5th season had been ordered. It's being rebooted and I'm assuming it will be awful. I think it's being done by the geniuses at the CW.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 19, 2025 10:05 AM (2NHgQ) 133
Posted by: mindful webworker - if I just need a plot... at January 19, 2025 09:28 AM (Mud1j)
Sounds like a Len Neal story.... Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 10:05 AM (0eaVi) 134
@86 *did I just gender assign?*
"Yes. She was a magnificent beast." --TE Chapman/Shaw/Lawrence, in letter to his publisher who complained he'd spelled his camel's name three ways. Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 10:05 AM (zdLoL) 135
I grew up reading most of the classics via the Readers Digest Condensed library of books. Always wondered if I missed something or if RD did a great job in their editing. I’m sticking with the second option .
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 19, 2025 *** Generally they did. For an extra-length novel like Anton Myrer's Once an Eagle, they gave it extra space. The only novel of the RDs I can recall as having a distinct style was Glendon Swarthout's Bless the Beasts and Children. It'd be hard to cancel his style and still have a recognizable book. They rarely published science fiction before the '70s. Arthur C. Clarke's classic disaster novel A Fall of Moondust was an exception. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:05 AM (omVj0) 136
The Second Hand Bookstore chain is great iMO.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 19, 2025 10:06 AM (D6PGr) 137
At, yes, he was bucked down after the war, wasn't he? It is interesting, however, how he gets all of the blame when Crook and Reno also failed in their responsibilities.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:03 AM (9gKAh) --- This reminds me of a discussion about the men who serve in wartime, perhaps as draftees, and decide to make a career of it. I don't think the Indian Wars can have their full context understood without considering that veterans of Shiloh and Antietam were running the show. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:08 AM (ZOv7s) 138
When I start feeling guilty and inadequate over how much of my reading has been current-popular rather than classic, I sometimes torment myself by skimming over the back of Louis L'Amour's Education of a Wandering Man. He lists a large number of the books he read during the period of his life covered by that book.
Wow. Just, wow. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 10:09 AM (q3u5l) 139
wonderful in the winter
Posted by: Black Orchid That place is amazing. If you go with someone not as into old books as you, you will need a rubber band and a ball of yarn. Tie the end of the yarn to the rubber band. Put the rubber band on your wrist. Entrust the ball of yarn to your companion. When they finally have had enough browsing, they can tug on the yarn which will make the rubber band snap painfully on your wrist. This will hopefully break your book trance. Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 10:09 AM (J5RCE) 140
The tobacco is Mac Baren HH Burley Flake. I was able to get the last 2 pounds I saw anywhere. None of the online tobacconists have any of the HH line, or almost any Mac Baren in stock and no way to get more. That STG buyout (spits) really screwed us over. Stokkebye does a great job with their flake blends but they are all Virginia based. I would love to see them start a Burley flake offering.
Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 *** Part of the order I put in for myself for Christmas but got delayed by USPS was HH Burley Flake. I haven't opened it yet; guess I'm waiting for a special occasion. I think Pipes and Cigars still has some Mac Baren blends, and maybe WVSmokeShop. I ordered some Virginia No. 1 from Tobaccopipes (which is going out of business, by the way). Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:09 AM (omVj0) 141
For fun, reread King David's Spaceship by Jerry Pournelle.
The setting is Jerry Pournelle's Second Empire and chronologically takes place parallel to The Mote In God's Eye. It’s got spaceships, pirates, barbarians, and battles. It also has a smattering of intrigue. Swashbuckling for a good cause. Light and fun to read. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 19, 2025 10:10 AM (u82oZ) 142
Okay, with all the LotR rights talk, I should mention that youtube recommended that I listen to an audio reading of Chapter 2 of Fellowship....and I did, because that's good advice. It was an hour well spent.
And it was rather amusing how many lines from that scene ended up in different scenes elsewhere in the movies... Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 10:10 AM (Lhaco) 143
https://tinyurl.com/LatinMost1
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:52 AM (0JWOm) Looks like it would be annoying and painful to read on a computer screen. I'd buy the book. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 10:12 AM (OX9vb) 144
I have! We had a MiniMichiOhioMomee there. They have exquisite rare books as well as complete schlock (my two favorite categories).
On one floor there's lots of old school pulp, and I got almost a dozen Tom Swift books. Posted by: All Hail Eris ________ How's that area of town? Safe? Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 10:12 AM (Dm8we) 145
I finally got a copy of the Sanderson book and it is really slow going. Hard to remember the multitude of different story lines and characters. My son, who is a big fan, decided to reread the first books and now I know why.. Thee should be a Cliff notes with character synopsis's and definitions. Or drawings. I seem to remember that some books had great illustrations which brought the flora and fauna to life.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:13 AM (t/2Uw) 146
Okay, with all the LotR rights talk, I should mention that youtube recommended that I listen to an audio reading of Chapter 2 of Fellowship....and I did, because that's good advice. It was an hour well spent.
And it was rather amusing how many lines from that scene ended up in different scenes elsewhere in the movies... Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 10:10 AM (Lhaco) --- There is a recording of Christopher Lee reading from The Silmarillion that is pretty epic. He's describing the last stand of the Men of Dor-Lomin, and hearing it aloud, it really puts R.E. Howard to shame with its intense, over-the-top slaughter. Conan never killed 70 dudes in a row with an axe smoking from troll blood. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:13 AM (ZOv7s) 147
Biff, it's fine. We even had lunch at a hipster place whose name escapes me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:14 AM (kpS4V) 148
Biff, it's fine. We even had lunch at a hipster place whose name escapes me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris __________ Dig. Appreciate the recon. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 10:15 AM (Dm8we) 149
I picked up Churchill biography at the used book store. You never know what treasures one might find. Lots of books I have are from the 2 nearby
Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2025 10:16 AM (fwDg9) 150
Btw I noticed this tab open on my phone- I am guessing it's from a previous book thread?
https://antigonejournal.com/ from the site: The Antigone team are pleased to pool together here the most useful, freely accessible Classics tools online. We have curated a list of 100 excellent open-access websites and resources, each chosen on the grounds of utility for the Classics learner/lover Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 10:16 AM (Wx316) 151
The battle of the Rosebud is also interesting because it was probably the first time the indians fought in an offensive style similar to the cavalry, and managed at least a draw going toe to toe with the troopers.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:17 AM (iL2x8) 152
After watching a two-star movie about Detroit's own Purple Gang on TCM, I thought I'd read up on these nice young Jewish boys with the entrepreneurial spirit. "The Purple Gang: Organized Crime in Detroit 1910 - 1946" by Paul R. Kavieff is a real Horatio Alger story of rum running, bootlegging, gambling, kidnapping, extortion, drugs, and freelance hijacking.
The gang's liquor was mostly stolen from independent operators and other gangs. The Little Jewish Navy ran stolen Canadian liquor over in private speedboats. Most of these "trombeniks" were the children of Eastern European Jewish immigrants, poor but hard-working and law-abiding people. But these kids saw their parents barely scraping by while local gangsters drove flashy cars and had fat bankrolls in their pockets, and they wanted a piece of the action. Prohibition came early here. The State Prohibition Referendum approved in 1916 became law in 1918. I read that Henry Ford was a big proponent because he was sick of factory workers showing up to the line drunk. Looking at the photos, we lost a lot when our goons went from spats and fedoras to track suits and gold chains. Class it up a little, boys! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:17 AM (kpS4V) 153
On the non-fiction front, I continue with 'Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies'. Would that all Americans would read it. Aside from the substance regarding the compromise of security within the government, there are remarkable parallels between the Democrat politicians' contrived attacks on McCarthy, and on Trump.
Fiction. Just started 'Out Stealing Horses', Petterson. So far, a very interesting read. Certainly the first Norwegian novel that I have read. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 19, 2025 10:19 AM (XeU6L) 154
https://tinyurl.com/LatinMost1
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 09:52 AM (0JWOm) Looks like it would be annoying and painful to read on a computer screen. I'd buy the book. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 *** I glanced over the first two lessons. It reminds me much of a short book on Latin grammar which was written in a conversational style by two brothers. Several chapters in, the authors start: "Sooner or later the student of Latin realizes that learning Latin involves learning a hell of a lot of grammar. The standard response to that is, 'What if your face froze that way?' " Darned if I can remember the title of the book or the authors, though. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:19 AM (omVj0) 155
Prohibition came early here. The State Prohibition Referendum approved in 1916 became law in 1918. I read that Henry Ford was a big proponent because he was sick of factory workers showing up to the line drunk.
Looking at the photos, we lost a lot when our goons went from spats and fedoras to track suits and gold chains. Class it up a little, boys! Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:17 AM (kpS4V) --- Michigan was the first state to approve Prohibition and the first state to repeal it. There are known locations of rum-running cars that fell through the ice. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:19 AM (ZOv7s) 156
There is a recording of Christopher Lee reading from The Silmarillion that is pretty epic. He's describing the last stand of the Men of Dor-Lomin, and hearing it aloud, it really puts R.E. Howard to shame with its intense, over-the-top slaughter.
Conan never killed 70 dudes in a row with an axe smoking from troll blood. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd I saw an interview with Christopher Lee and he noted that he read the Lord of the Rings annually. I imagine he relished playing his role. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:20 AM (iL2x8) 157
"Sooner or later the student of Latin realizes that learning Latin involves learning a hell of a lot of grammar. The standard response to that is, 'What if your face froze that way?' "
Darned if I can remember the title of the book or the authors, though. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:19 AM (omVj0) --- Learning German seriously buffed my English grammar. Those Krauts are all about rules! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:21 AM (ZOv7s) 158
I'm now on season 2 of Elementary and still amazed at how good it is. Does anyone know about the writers? How did they manage to write 20+ episodes and still be entertaining? The dialog is amazing especially the Sherlock character . You lose sight of the actor and only see the character.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:22 AM (t/2Uw) 159
Sharon, anything new on Hrothgar this morning?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 19, 2025 10:24 AM (oT+t6) 160
I should quit reading this thread and catch up on my Bible reading. Have a good day, all!
Posted by: PabloD at January 19, 2025 10:24 AM (zD6D1) 161
I saw an interview with Christopher Lee and he noted that he read the Lord of the Rings annually. I imagine he relished playing his role.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:20 AM (iL2x --- The great crime of Peter Jackson's films is that he was fully capable of making a true adaptation but chose not to, and all of his changes made the films worse, either by undermining plot points, inserting humor where it doesn't belong, or wrecking characters. I can't even watch "Return of the King" because it is so awful. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:24 AM (ZOv7s) 162
Being ungrammatical is part of style and the manner of it - erudite, rustic, someone trying to fake either approaches - is part of an author's voice.
Style guides are just authors telling other authors to write as they do based on claimed authority. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 09:53 AM (ZOv7s) You are right. (ed: correct) Using Pro Writing Aid to write stories, the thing points out grammatical errors it wants you to correct. I'd do it for the writer voice, but ignore it for character inner thoughts and dialog. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 10:25 AM (0eaVi) 163
I'm always amazed how far people will go in order to deliver books to readers. This guy uses a camel to transport his portable library to outlying regions of Mongolia, where books are few and far between. I'm sure he's a hero to all the folks there. I bet his route is also quite dangerous. People WANT books. People NEED books. I salute those who go the extra mile (or thousand miles) to bring reading materials to locations that lack them.
And I salute the Perfessor for correctly recognizing that it is a camel, and not a dromedary. On a different subject, for those that perused the ONT, MisHum utilized a graphic that incorrectly listed Absolute Zero ad -460 degrees F. The correct value is 459.67 degrees F. #PrecisionMatters Posted by: Wesley Crusher at January 19, 2025 10:25 AM (a3Q+t) 164
Sharon, our reading tastes align so I will have to try Elementary to see if our viewing tastes aligh as well.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 19, 2025 10:25 AM (0JWOm) 165
Sharon, anything new on Hrothgar this morning?
Posted by: Ben Had at January 19, 2025 10:24 AM (oT+t6) Uh oh. What'd I miss? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:26 AM (Zz0t1) 166
No news on Hrothgar since 5 pm yesterday. Starting to worry. His daughter knows how to reach us and we did respond when she texted us.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:26 AM (t/2Uw) 167
Good morning Book Lovers and thank you, Perfessor for the Book Thread.
I finished God's Hotel by Victoria Sweet in which Dr. Sweet wrote about her work at Laguna Honda Hospital, the last almshouse in the U.S. She first took the position because it was part time which allowed her to work on a PhD in medical history but quickly came to realize what a unique place Laguna Honda was. When she first started, there was little bureaucracy, adequate staff, and time to practice medicine. Then came the "efficiency experts," and then lawsuits that required even more levels of administration. Somewhere along the way Medicine became Health Care, which is not the same thing. It's a well written book. The story of Laguna Honda is pretty much the story of what has happened to medicine all over the country. I'm not sure how (or if) it can be turned around but I'm glad for a clearer picture of how we got here. Posted by: KatieFloyd at January 19, 2025 10:26 AM (O1auy) 168
140 ... "Part of the order I put in for myself for Christmas but got delayed by USPS was HH Burley Flake. I haven't opened it yet; guess I'm waiting for a special occasion.
I think Pipes and Cigars still has some Mac Baren blends, and maybe WVSmokeShop. I ordered some Virginia No. 1 from Tobaccopipes (which is going out of business, by the way)." I think you will love the Burley Flake. It goes especially well with good black coffee. Thanks for mentioning WVsmokeshop. If their site is up to date, I'll be placing an order soon. Their prices are good as well. For folks who may be wondering, pipe smoking and reading go well together besides the connection to favorite authors like Tolkien, Lewis, Conan Doyle and others. Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 10:26 AM (yTvNw) 169
A.H. Lloyd.
Last night I mentioned how long it took me to get through Long Live Death. I want to elaborate. Your book exposed how ignorant I was on several subjects. One of which was I knew very little about Spain itself. Almost nothing on Soviet tanks prior to the T34. Had no idea who was even involved in the Spanish Revolution or why. Your book sent me after books which is the best kind of book. Thank you for writing it. I started it again last night BTW. Posted by: Reforger at January 19, 2025 10:27 AM (xcIvR) 170
"Sooner or later the student of Latin realizes that learning Latin involves learning a hell of a lot of grammar. The standard response to that is, 'What if your face froze that way?' "
Darned if I can remember the title of the book or the authors, though. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:19 AM (omVj0) ---- Latino Pro Populo by the Humez brothers? Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:27 AM (kpS4V) 171
On a different subject, for those that perused the ONT, MisHum utilized a graphic that incorrectly listed Absolute Zero ad -460 degrees F. The correct value is 459.67 degrees F.
#PrecisionMatters Posted by: Wesley Crusher But you would still need a warm jacket to go out in it. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:28 AM (iL2x8) 172
Those Krauts are all about rules!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:21 AM Ja wohl! Posted by: zombie Felix Steiner at January 19, 2025 10:28 AM (a3Q+t) 173
Hrothgar went to the hospital with chest pain. They scheduled him for a catherization(I think that's what it's called). Got a text from him that it would be later in the day. Next day got a text from his daughter that thee was a complication and he was in the ICU under sedation. That was 5 pm yesterday. Nothing since.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:28 AM (t/2Uw) 174
But you would still need a warm jacket to go out in it. Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:28 AM A liquid nitrogen infusion to keep warm. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:29 AM (Zz0t1) 175
166 No news on Hrothgar since 5 pm yesterday. Starting to worry. His daughter knows how to reach us and we did respond when she texted us.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:26 AM (t/2Uw No news is good news I hope Posted by: It's me donna at January 19, 2025 10:29 AM (VE6XX) 176
Hrothgar went to the hospital with chest pain. They scheduled him for a catherization(I think that's what it's called). Got a text from him that it would be later in the day. Next day got a text from his daughter that thee was a complication and he was in the ICU under sedation. That was 5 pm yesterday. Nothing since.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:28 AM (t/2Uw) Well, added to the prayer list, then. Godspeed, fine gentlemen. I pray for an immediate and full recovery. You have a date in Corsicana later this year. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:30 AM (Zz0t1) 177
I assume "1-192-2025" in the title of this post refers to the date of today.
But with a typo. (Why do I get hung up on these things?) Perhaps I should be a copy editor. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 19, 2025 10:30 AM (dg+HA) 178
Thank you for writing it.
I started it again last night BTW. Posted by: Reforger at January 19, 2025 10:27 AM (xcIvR) --- Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:31 AM (ZOv7s) 179
I assume "1-192-2025" in the title of this post refers to the date of today.
But with a typo. (Why do I get hung up on these things?) Perhaps I should be a copy editor. Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 19, 2025 10:30 AM (dg+HA) Well, it certainly isn't Jenny's number. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:32 AM (Zz0t1) 180
Latino Pro Populo by the Humez brothers?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 *** That sounds right! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:33 AM (omVj0) Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:34 AM (Zz0t1) Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s) 183
Perhaps I should be a copy editor.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 19, 2025 10:30 AM Join us! We're always looking for a Few Good Morons! Posted by: Assistant Associate AoSHQ Copy Editor, Punctuation Brigade, Oxford Comma Company at January 19, 2025 10:34 AM (a3Q+t) 184
Make America Great Again Victory Rally: A rally at Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C., featuring performances by Kid Rock opening for the Village People. The rally is scheduled to begin at 3 p.m. EST
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 19, 2025 10:34 AM (/lPRQ) 185
Eris at 170, and Wolfus
Latin for People/Latino Pro Populo is the book. Pulled it up on archive.org and the 'face froze like that' shows on p. 106 in a search. Will have to look at that one. I was never really good at foreign languages -- one year high school French, one year college German, but three years of high school Latin; I've retained just about zip-a-dee-doo-dah from any of it. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 10:35 AM (q3u5l) 186
I still don't trust DC law enforcement, the Capitol Police or anything around that shithole, so despite Trump being inaugurated tomorrow, I wouldn't be caught within 500 miles of that place for the next 2 days.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:36 AM (Zz0t1) 187
It better have Jack Shaefer's "Sergeant Houck" in it, though. Any collection of Western "classics" that does not have it is badly flawed. That is one of the finest short stories in any genre.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:02 AM (omVj0) I read it on your recommendation. It was in a collection in the local library. I didn't like the character's behavior towards some of the others. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 10:37 AM (0eaVi) 188
Which channels will carry the inauguration? If the main ceremony is due to start at noon ET, then it'd be available here at eleven. I guess all three of the classic networks will have it, and Fox? And maybe PBS too?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:37 AM (omVj0) 189
Iris in line for the rally in DC. Looks peaceful so far. She said lots of MAGA hats on the metro.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:39 AM (t/2Uw) 190
It's interesting that the writer of "YMCA" came out and said that it was to be taken at face value because that's how he wrote it, and while there were gay guys in the group, he knew nothing of the culture at that point.
There's a sort of secular, sexualized gnosticism these days that tries to attribute things that simply were never intended. The "Top Gun" volleyball game was eye candy for the chicks. The filmmakers knew Cruise was a box office draw, and a scene like that gave the gals something to talk about. A movie that appeals to men and women! What a concept! Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:39 AM (ZOv7s) 191
I'm sure Right Side Broadcasting will stream it on YouTube.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 19, 2025 10:39 AM (dg+HA) 192
Will have to look at that one. I was never really good at foreign languages -- one year high school French, one year college German, but three years of high school Latin; I've retained just about zip-a-dee-doo-dah from any of it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 10:35 AM (q3u5l) --- I had six years of German - one in middle school, four in high school, one in college. Can't even read the papers I wrote. However, when I get drunk, a lot of it comes back. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:40 AM (ZOv7s) 193
It's interesting that the writer of "YMCA" came out and said that it was to be taken at face value because that's how he wrote it, and while there were gay guys in the group, he knew nothing of the culture at that point.
Bullsh*t. Posted by: Oddbob at January 19, 2025 10:40 AM (/y8xj) 194
I read it on your recommendation. It was in a collection in the local library. I didn't like the character's behavior towards some of the others.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 *** In some ways it's a hardboiled story without the crime. The film version with Joel McCrea and Barbara Stanwyck, Trooper Hook, does a pretty good job amplifying it into a ninety-minute film. McCrea is good casting as the sergeant, though. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:40 AM (omVj0) 195
Bullsh*t.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 19, 2025 10:40 AM (/y8xj) --- If it was any other time, I'd agree with you, but saying what he did in the current culture was very much an argument against interest. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:42 AM (ZOv7s) 196
Iris in line for the rally in DC. Looks peaceful so far. She said lots of MAGA hats on the metro.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:39 AM (t/2Uw) Prayers to her. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:42 AM (Zz0t1) 197
A cure for the Rothfuss effect: Make each book a complete story. No cliffhangers.
A few years back, I started reading a series that was set on the moon. It had about a half- dozen subplots, and every single one of them ended with a cliffhanger. I never went back for a second helping. Posted by: Toad-0 at January 19, 2025 10:42 AM (cct0t) 198
Okay, time to suit up. Thanks again, Perfesser!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:43 AM (ZOv7s) 199
Tim Curry read Journey to the Center of the Earth, and seemed to ace every French, German and Icelandic word, no matter how long. The same for Andy Serkis and The Silmarillion.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at January 19, 2025 10:43 AM (lhenN) 200
At, yes, he was bucked down after the war, wasn't he? It is interesting, however, how he gets all of the blame when Crook and Reno also failed in their responsibilities.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 19, 2025 10:03 AM (9gKAh) A failure of intelligence, I'd think. Why didn't his Indian scouts notice how many the Sioux were? Custer should have retreated, not attacked. So, his fault. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 10:43 AM (0eaVi) 201
Sexualized Gnostics was the garage band name for the group that would go on to ultimately be known as Culture Club.
Posted by: Not a joke at January 19, 2025 10:44 AM (dg+HA) 202
Like the answer to our prayers just got an update from Hrothgar's daughter.
"Hrothgar is making steady progress in the right direction. A lot going on right now. Keep the prayers coming." Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:44 AM (t/2Uw) 203
"Hrothgar is making steady progress in the right direction. A lot going on right now. Keep the prayers coming."
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:44 AM (t/2Uw) Will do! Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 19, 2025 10:44 AM (Zz0t1) 204
182 Man, with wind chill it is 4 degrees out there.
I need to seriously suit up to go to Mass. Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s) AHL. I am not in church this morning, but I intend to get out to my trucker buddy's place and feed his katz. I allso want to drop by the gubshow. I kinow, I'm a bad person. Our temp here dropped to 25 last night and I got chills so bad Mrs. E covered me with every blanket in the house, a depth of about 10 inches. I feel some better now and will pour some coffee down my neck. Posted by: Eromero at January 19, 2025 10:45 AM (LHPAg) 205
Stay safe, A.H.Lloyd!! Hope you have a hip flask.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:45 AM (kpS4V) 206
I can't resist used book stores. There is a treasure hunt aspect to them. I've come across some incredible bargains like most of the Patrick O'Brian books and Cornwell historical novels, all hardcover, in great condition and for a buck each. Similar with a hardcover collection of all the CS Lewis Signature works. There is also a surprise, although disappointing, at what is NOT there: Books by George MacDonald or Chesterton or good translations of Jules Verne or Homer as examples. Admittedly, my taste in books is becoming more esoteric so that limits possible purchases.
Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 10:46 AM (yTvNw) 207
There's a sort of secular, sexualized gnosticism these days that tries to attribute things that simply were never intended.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:39 AM (ZOv7s) Yep, that's what the YMCA and YWCA used to be--an inexpensive place to stay temporarily. But Gay being Gay, they made it about the Gay. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 10:46 AM (OX9vb) 208
I went to Baldwin's in West Chester PA shortly after it was featured here about 2 1/2 yrs ago. Without doubt best used bookstore in the area. Get a map & prepare to spend a good amount of time.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at January 19, 2025 10:47 AM (L1omb) 209
"Hrothgar is making steady progress in the right direction. A lot going on right now. Keep the prayers coming."
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:44 AM (t/2Uw) How about that? God is great! Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 10:48 AM (OX9vb) 210
202 ... Sharon,
Thanks so much (and to his daughter) for keeping us apprised on Hrothgar's progress. Prayers of course continue. Posted by: JTB at January 19, 2025 10:49 AM (yTvNw) 211
I finally finished The Diamond Age: or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer by Neil Stephenson.
It's two main concepts, the first is typical cyberpunk in that technology makes the individual independent and also drives anomie on culture-wide bases, and that some cultures are better at this than others; the second is that in such a world the only refuge is in coordination in groups you can trust. In the Diamond Age, physical wants are satisfied by matter compilers that can produce anything from basic food to high end machinery depending on the size of the feed, the programs available and the size of the output device, and society is divided into "phyles", sub cultures that assemble themselves for protection, wealth and to raise their kids. Percival Hackworth is an engineer for New Atlantis, a neo-victorian phyle, who has been tasked to develop a learning program to solve a principle problem, in that the brightest minds in the phyle are born outside of it, and the children of the phyle are either stodgy and self satisfied, or leave to find their future outside of the phyle. It is a beast of a book, and focuses around Nell the girl who got the copy and is raised by it in. Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2025 10:50 AM (D7oie) 212
197 A cure for the Rothfuss effect: Make each book a complete story. No cliffhangers.
A few years back, I started reading a series that was set on the moon. It had about a half- dozen subplots, and every single one of them ended with a cliffhanger. I never went back for a second helping. Posted by: Toad-0 at January 19, 2025 10:42 AM (cct0t) One armature's opinion: finish the story. Include and sequel-baiting epilog or stinger if you must, but give the main story a conclusion. Personally, I'm partly through a big fantasy epic that I've.....just quietly gave up on, because the story keeps getting bigger and bigger (and introducing point-of-view character that I don't care about/am actively rooting against their side) without any sign of a conclusion. I haven't officially bailed on the book, but whenever I consider continuing it I decide that there is some other book I'd rather read instead. Posted by: Castle Guy at January 19, 2025 10:50 AM (Lhaco) 213
Goodbye, Bob and Niki. Bob's Saucer Repair is closed.
Thank you, Perfessor, for noting Jerry Boyd's passing. I continue to be amazed at the discipline it must have taken to produce a novel a month for six years. I was expecting his next book around Christmas; when it was a few weeks overdue I checked the internet and found he was gone. His books were always entertaining. I will miss him. Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 19, 2025 10:50 AM (PH3st) 214
Villiage People had another hit called In the Navy. So... gay.
Ima call BS on the writers lack of knowlege about just how fag the whole thing was. I was like 9 when they started flaming and it was obvious even to a kid. They aided in the killing of disco too. For that we can all thank them. Suddenly millions of American straight men went "damn, see that? We look like fags. Let's stop that". Posted by: Reforger at January 19, 2025 10:53 AM (xcIvR) 215
I read that Larry Correia dedicated the final book in the series to R R Martin saying "See, it can be done".
Don't know if it's true. Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:53 AM (t/2Uw) 216
>>People WANT books. People NEED books.
Heck yes! I volunteer at a used book store and see it in action. Book readers are happy people. Every now and then you get someone who will say something like, "Oh, people still want (printed books) - can't you just get them online?" Oh, no, no, no. Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2025 10:54 AM (u1uWe) 217
I really liked Christie's "The ABC Murders." It's written in a somewhat unique fashion compared to the other Poirot stories, and she does a good job of faking you out as to who the killer is.
Posted by: Dr. T at January 19, 2025 09:38 AM (lHPJf) Avoid the current BBC version at all costs- typical of today's fare it is dark and disgusting. Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 10:54 AM (f+FmA) 218
Perhaps I should be a copy editor.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 19, 2025 10:30 AM Join us! We're always looking for a Few Good Morons! Posted by: Assistant Associate AoSHQ Copy Editor, Punctuation Brigade, Oxford Comma Company at January 19, 2025 10:34 AM (a3Q+t) Watch it! He's one of us. Posted by: A Literary Horde at January 19, 2025 10:55 AM (0eaVi) 219
I enjoy the Suchet Poirot series for its art direction as much as the stories. The lack of ahistorical diversity is a plus.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:57 AM (kpS4V) 220
Have a great day, everyone.
26 hours to go, if the Deep State transfers power as designed. The Roman Republic ended in brutal civil wars because they did not transfer power well. Want to avoid that. Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 19, 2025 10:57 AM (u82oZ) 221
Every now and then you get someone who will say something like, "Oh, people still want (printed books) - can't you just get them online?"
Oh, no, no, no. Posted by: Lizzy at January 19, 2025 10:54 AM (u1uWe) --- I mean, you can, but the best part of spelunking in a used book store is the serendipity. Online shopping if fine if you know exactly what you want, but finding some gem you didn't even knew existed is a feeling like no other. Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 11:01 AM (kpS4V) 222
The film version with Joel McCrea and Barbara Stanwyck, Trooper Hook, does a pretty good job amplifying it into a ninety-minute film. McCrea is good casting as the sergeant, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 10:40 AM (omVj0) McCrea was always an "oldie" type actor to me. I saw Ride the High Country and he was very good in it. He just didn't seem to be A list, I guess. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:01 AM (0eaVi) 223
219 I enjoy the Suchet Poirot series for its art direction as much as the stories. The lack of ahistorical diversity is a plus.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 10:57 AM (kpS4V) Even the opening sequence, shown each episode, is a masterpiece of art deco motifs. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 19, 2025 11:01 AM (7MHHr) 224
The coolest used book store I've been to is the Book Loft in Columbus. Not so much for the selection, but rather the location and layout.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 11:02 AM (Dm8we) 225
but 10% less kairos.
--------- For a minute there I thought you said Karos. I was fearful for the pecan pie. Posted by: scampydog at January 19, 2025 11:02 AM (32wH/) 226
For used books, don't forget thrift stores or antique shops. Found a couple in southern Utah that had one or two I considered picking up at the next trip.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:05 AM (0eaVi) 227
McCrea was always an "oldie" type actor to me. I saw Ride the High Country and he was very good in it. He just didn't seem to be A list, I guess.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:01 AM (0eaVi) He was absolutely a-list in the 40’s; see Sullivan’s Travels. Like Randolph Scott, his co-star in Ride the High Country, he ended up doing mainly westerns in the 50’s and while it was lucrative, it was a career cul de sac. Posted by: Tom Servo at January 19, 2025 11:10 AM (7MHHr) 228
226 For used books, don't forget thrift stores or antique shops. Found a couple in southern Utah that had one or two I considered picking up at the next trip.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:05 AM (0eaVi) This. The annex to our nice antique mall here has many shelves of used books. They are almost all non-fiction and lean heavily historical, esp. Texas, but there are hidden gems to be discovered. Son works for H-PB as a warehouse manager, so we would like that chain to live on. Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 11:10 AM (f+FmA) 229
My favorite used book store closed about a year ago.
An obviously ex hippy bought it. I went in for my usual monthly or so buy and she started knocking off the prices for stuff like dog eared pages and damaged covers and tried to give me all 5 books I had. I told her No. You'll go out of business that way. I want to pay according to you chart. She refused so I just left a $20 bill on the counter and walked out. Next time I went back it was a nail salon. Posted by: Reforger at January 19, 2025 11:11 AM (xcIvR) 230
Fiction stories can often reflect deeper truths that are difficult to simply put into a straightforward statement of fact.
But some will not learn and refuse to understand as they are wedded to their delusions. Posted by: Kid from Kindergarten Cop at January 19, 2025 11:12 AM (RUBw7) 231
OrangeENT, agreed on the antique shops. I have found some really interesting books among antiques--they're out of print, so would never find them elsewhere.
I have one written by a survivor of the Russian Revolution, and the parallel to today's leftist movements is both striking and depressing. Communism is Bad, and it never changes. Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 11:12 AM (OX9vb) 232
@219 I enjoy the Suchet Poirot series for its art direction
'Indeed.' I knew guys who watched it just for the trains, planes and automobiles. Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 11:12 AM (zdLoL) 233
He was absolutely a-list in the 40’s; see Sullivan’s Travels. Like Randolph Scott, his co-star in Ride the High Country, he ended up doing mainly westerns in the 50’s and while it was lucrative, it was a career cul de sac.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 19, 2025 11:10 AM (7MHHr) He didn't care- he listed his occupation on his tax returns as "rancher". Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 11:13 AM (f+FmA) Posted by: The Statler Brothers at January 19, 2025 11:13 AM (dg+HA) 235
234 "...Like Randolph Scott, his co-star in Ride the High Country..."
Whatever happened to him? Posted by: The Statler Brothers at January 19, 2025 11:13 AM (dg+HA) Riding the trail alone? Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 11:15 AM (f+FmA) 236
"But some will not learn and refuse to understand as they are wedded to their delusions."
This is about us, isn't it? Posted by: People still wearing a mask alone in the car at January 19, 2025 11:16 AM (dg+HA) 237
he listed his occupation on his tax returns as "rancher".
Victor Mature was a golfer. He tried to join a country club, and was informed they did not accept actors. He replied "I'm no actor, and I've got 65 films to prove it." Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 11:17 AM (zdLoL) 238
Mindful web worker: I'd read the " The Petty Pedant Report."
Posted by: who knew at January 19, 2025 11:19 AM (+ViXu) Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 11:19 AM (kpS4V) 240
Good morning Perfessor, Horde
Bad guys are conducting reconnaissance on American churches, folks. Three man teams in Virginia and California used identical methods within the last week or so. Two men photographed the exteriors and interiors of the churches. While their leader asked church staff about church security measures -- did the church have live stream video, was the feed monitored. Posted by: callsign claymore at January 19, 2025 11:20 AM (6pFnP) 241
I would strenuously avoid that James Clemens book simply for the presence of the useless apostrophe in "Wit'ch". Or is it "Witc'h"?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2025 11:20 AM (8zz6B) 242
Victor Mature was a golfer. He tried to join a country club, and was informed they did not accept actors. He replied "I'm no actor, and I've got 65 films to prove it."
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 19, 2025 11:17 AM (zdLoL) Man looking over an apartment balcony at the movie star hanging by a fire hose: "I think Alan Swann is beneath us!" Other man on balcony: "Of course, he's beneath us- he's an actor!" And Mr. Mature was only telling the truth... Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 11:20 AM (f+FmA) 243
Our last 9 years in Chicago, working for Kroch's & Brentano's, the nifty Mrs Some Guy and I lived in Rogers Park and there were at least 4 second-hand bookshops in easy walking distance. It was a dangerous place to be while trying to live on even 2 bookstore salaries. Spent a lot of time at the late great Hanley's Book Shop. She carried a lot of small press fantasy & science fiction material as well as a nice selection of used books in all areas. Gone now, even the building the location of which is now part of the parking lot for the Rogers Park Fruit Market.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 11:22 AM (q3u5l) 244
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 19, 2025 11:20 AM (6pFnP)
Did you think Garland and company are going to stop the communist "revolution" just because they couldn't steal this election? Posted by: Long night... at January 19, 2025 11:24 AM (2NXcZ) 245
A.H. Lloyd.
Last night I mentioned how long it took me to get through Long Live Death. I want to elaborate. Your book exposed how ignorant I was on several subjects. One of which was I knew very little about Spain itself. Almost nothing on Soviet tanks prior to the T34. Had no idea who was even involved in the Spanish Revolution or why. Your book sent me after books which is the best kind of book. Thank you for writing it. I started it again last night BTW. Posted by: Reforger at January 19, 2025 10:27 AM (xcIvR) *** I too just got the book and am looking forward to reading it. Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2025 11:25 AM (W/lyH) 246
IMHO, all the advice you need about writing was summed up in Mark Twain's rules of literary art.
Posted by: who knew at January 19, 2025 11:25 AM (+ViXu) 247
Communism is Bad, and it never changes.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at January 19, 2025 11:12 AM (OX9vb) That's just because the right people haven't been in charge! Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:26 AM (0eaVi) 248
Been a while since I plugged my only long-form writing effort, Invulnerable (link in nic to my website). I've mentioned before, I wanted to do a
I did some sketches and a plot outline and it wasn't clicking, and put it aside for years. Then one snowy winter when I couldn't compute because the power was unsteady and the battery backup didn't, I started sketching again, then writing longhand. It just poured out. What I ended up posting on my website was almost first draft. Possibly, that shows. The story starts as illustrated, then becomes text in the form of characters' recollections and interviews. The second part is one long narrative. It concludes in the form of a website about characters and events. Highly mixed media with multiple narrators. Never got much response on it. (Comments allowed on the table of contents and virgin PayPal buttons.) Long meant to upgrade some of the initial art and add a couple of spot illos. What's it about, though, you ask? Well… a small cult of "invulnerable" people, a gangster threat, interplanetary war in a distant system. The usual stuff. The DANG! Pixy comment limit reached. Posted by: mindful webworker - can't be harmed at January 19, 2025 11:28 AM (Mud1j) 249
He didn't care- he listed his occupation on his tax returns as "rancher".
Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 11:13 AM (f+FmA) He was the producer (the money, I guess) for a film by his son. It might have been Joel's last appearance. I think he was only at the end of the movie. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:28 AM (0eaVi) 250
We enjoy a new/used bookstore in Moab, Ut when we visit Back of Beyond Books. Love they have old manuals and more that are interesting to look at. It in an old building adding to the vintage feel.
We usually buy a couple as love that places like this still exist and support locals. My first used bookstore was my parents den. They had tons of books, encyclopedias , Shakespeare volumes etc. I loved as a kid taking a book down and paging through(America’s castles) or looking through identifying minerals books. It was really cool and hope there are more of these than I know out there inspiring kids today. Posted by: Paisley at January 19, 2025 11:30 AM (ny1NG) 251
I would strenuously avoid that James Clemens book simply for the presence of the useless apostrophe in "Wit'ch". Or is it "Witc'h"?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2025 11:20 AM (8zz6B) I don't like that, either. Buuuut... I did one character name in an unfinished work like that. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:31 AM (0eaVi) 252
Once started to read Mao's little red book. Got to a point where he stated the question 'Don't we want the state to wither away?' He followed that up with something along the lines of 'Yes, but not yet.' Because the people's revolution was still under attack by enemies within and without, and the state had to maintain power and control in defense of the revolution.
Which I took to mean that the state couldn't wither away until there was nothing opposed to the people's revolution anywhere in the world. Nothing, not even the thought of some individual somewhere. The people who think it just hasn't been done right will always ignore that. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 11:33 AM (q3u5l) 253
And Mr. Mature was only telling the truth...
Posted by: sal at January 19, 2025 11:20 AM (f+FmA) His stuff wasn't that bad. He appeared in the Monkee's movie, Head. Uh... wait. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:33 AM (0eaVi) 254
In Terry Pratchett's Discworld series camels are the greatest mathematician in the world.
Not that anyone else in the world knows or cares, of course. They see camels as the ill-tempered beasts of burden we all know and love/loathe. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 19, 2025 10:00 AM (BpYfr) In Erik Frank Russell's story Homo Saps, camels are the secret masters of the caravan Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2025 11:34 AM (D7oie) Posted by: tankdemon at January 19, 2025 11:36 AM (jfvTO) 256
Just finished Book 1 of the Caleb series by Jeff Menapace.
It is a quick, humerous, irreverent, read for when you need a break from anything that requires heavy thinking. Posted by: Diogenes at January 19, 2025 11:38 AM (W/lyH) 257
Improbably, Chuck Yeager was a backpacker. He used to bring friends and coworkers on miles long hikes to remote lakes for fishing. About a week in, he would have Air Force planes airdrop more supplies in, usually steaks and such. They got back at him by dropping frozen fish sticks. Ha!
Posted by: Common Tater at January 19, 2025 11:38 AM (/2mYZ) 258
Re:
In Terry Pratchett's Discworld series camels are the greatest mathematician in the world. Not that anyone else in the world knows or cares, of course. They see camels as the ill-tempered beasts of burden we all know and love/loathe. -- Well, YMMV, but in my case integral calculus & beyond can do that to you. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 11:39 AM (q3u5l) 259
Bad guys are conducting reconnaissance on American churches, folks.
Three man teams in Virginia and California used identical methods within the last week or so. Two men photographed the exteriors and interiors of the churches. Look up "first amendment audit" on Youtube. It's a form of trolling. Posted by: Oddbob at January 19, 2025 11:44 AM (/y8xj) 260
I don't like that, either. Buuuut... I did one character name in an unfinished work like that.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 *** In my fantasy stories, I have a nonhuman race, probably long extinct, whose name (known because of visions by certain human characters) as "As'm'tyrr." My intention is to have someone pronounce it and show that the apostrophes denote glottal stops or clicks. In English an apostrophe denotes a missing letter or letters. "The horse's leg" = a much older construction, "the horse, its leg." And of course we leave letters out in contractions; "cannot" becomes "can't." The current "fashion" for putting an apostrophe in people's names, or using it willy-nilly in words in fantasy novels, shows the namer or author does not know this. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 11:46 AM (omVj0) 261
There are known locations of rum-running cars that fell through the ice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 19, 2025 10:19 AM (ZOv7s) Sounds like an interesting salvage opportunity. Classic cars and booze! Also a good hook for a novel. One of those sunken cars bears a deadly secret... Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2025 11:48 AM (8zz6B) 262
Look up "first amendment audit" on Youtube. It's a form of trolling.
Posted by: Oddbob at January 19, 2025 11:44 AM (/y8xj) First Amendment audits take place in public spaces. I wouldn’t classify them as trolling; Americans have a right to film in public. Churches are private spaces. Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 19, 2025 11:48 AM (FC8SQ) 263
Well, off to see what I can screw up in normal mundane reality today.
Thanks for the thread, Perfessor. Have a good one, gang. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 11:48 AM (q3u5l) 264
In my fantasy stories, I have a nonhuman race, probably long extinct, whose name (known because of visions by certain human characters) as "As'm'tyrr." My intention is to have someone pronounce it and show that the apostrophes denote glottal stops or clicks.
In English an apostrophe denotes a missing letter or letters. "The horse's leg" = a much older construction, "the horse, its leg." And of course we leave letters out in contractions; "cannot" becomes "can't." The current "fashion" for putting an apostrophe in people's names, or using it willy-nilly in words in fantasy novels, shows the namer or author does not know this. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 11:46 AM (omVj0) And I think the one I used does the same as yours. It just looks silly to me, so I have no intention to use something like that again. Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:50 AM (0eaVi) 265
Ys, 'tis time I went off to do some household chores. (Vacuuming is one. The bane of the cats' existence. Well, Stirling's; he runs and hides in the bathroom. Dagny the little sSberian sits atop a counter and watches.)
Thanks to the Perfessor and all of you for a fine Book Thread. Tomorrow's inauguration is a consummation devoutly to be wished; may it all go without a hitch! Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 11:51 AM (omVj0) 266
Hrothgar went to the hospital with chest pain. They scheduled him for a catherization(I think that's what it's called). Got a text from him that it would be later in the day. Next day got a text from his daughter that thee was a complication and he was in the ICU under sedation. That was 5 pm yesterday. Nothing since.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 19, 2025 10:28 AM (t/2Uw) There was a report on the ONT that he was "resting comfortably" in the ICU. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2025 11:51 AM (8zz6B) 267
244 No. I expect bad guys to do bad things. And if or when terrorists hit our churches, God forbid, I want them to fail because the congregation was armed and trained.
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 19, 2025 11:52 AM (6pFnP) 268
My little collection of atlases just paid off. I asked Grok if there were any atlases from the 70s that used 'West Bank' as the name for the part of the Kingdom of Jordan west of the Jordan River.
Grok asserted that the term was used in The Times Atlas of the World 1975 Comprehensive Edition and the 1975 National Geographic Atlas of the World. I have both on my shelf and, whadayaknow, neither atlas used the term 'West Bank'. I did find 'West Bank' used in Chaim Herzog’s 1982 “The Arab-Israeli Wars” in the section on the war with Jordan. So, AI - 0; atlases on shelf - 1 Posted by: Geoff Demarest at January 19, 2025 11:52 AM (/9lLa) 269
Tomorrow's inauguration is a consummation devoutly to be wished; may it all go without a hitch!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 11:51 AM (omVj0) Don't you mean, hit'ch? Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:52 AM (0eaVi) 270
"sSberian" = "Siberian."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 19, 2025 11:52 AM (omVj0) 271
John and Larry are both right. Just support your favourite authors by buying their books and don't be those idiots who doom a series before it can even get going because of two past authors who screwed over their fan bases.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 19, 2025 09:00 AM (O7YUW) But the latest con is to advertise a SEVEN Book series... and have two done... and the second on Pre Order for 3 months from now... HATE that. Classic bait and switch. As to long leads between books? I read a LOT of indi authors... and if it is years between the books of a series coming out? I've totally forgotten the earlier books... even if it was good enough to continue the series. Posted by: Romeo13 at January 19, 2025 11:53 AM (QAkQ3) 272
Good Morning from the Left Coast! I finished "The Vikings: A History" by Robert Ferguson. The Viking Era was only 300 years long, but they had a tremendous impact on the history of Europe, beyond Ireland, Scotland, and Britain. The book is a little dry and could have used a comprehensive map, not just the small sections offered in my edition, and a genealogy or cast of characters as all the Haralds, Olafs/Olavs, Svens, and Thors became confusing.
Posted by: March Hare at January 19, 2025 11:54 AM (jfX+U) 273
Has anyone been to that massive King used book store in Detroit? Have family up there and would like to check it out. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 09:31 AM back in the day, it was not uncommon for a sub-set of the Moron Horde to go on little walking tours of used bookstores mayhaps a mini MiMoMe is in order... Posted by: Pissed-Off Firefly Fans at January 19, 2025 11:55 AM (tljrc) 274
Saddest part of Sunday again. Thanks for the thread, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 19, 2025 11:55 AM (0eaVi) 275
267 244 No. I expect bad guys to do bad things. And if or when terrorists hit our churches, God forbid, I want them to fail because the congregation was armed and trained.
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 19, 2025 11:52 AM (6pFnP) And just because they aren't "in control" doesn't mean that they're no longer funded. I want them to fail too and I want their leadership crushed. The idea that they should survive and regroup/rebrand must be put down hard. Posted by: Long night... at January 19, 2025 11:56 AM (2NXcZ) 276
off, sock just got back from the weekly shopping looks like all the Lions merch is 50% off this morning... Posted by: AltonJackson at January 19, 2025 11:57 AM (tljrc) 277
I am reading, or at least trying to force myself through Forerunner Foray by Andre Norton, and it is hard going. It was more interesting when I was in junior high school I suspect, and I don't remember getting through it then.
It is so boring I am getting back into Willamette Landings, a WPA project doing a literary discussion of the role of the Willamette River during the pioneering days. Posted by: Kindltot at January 19, 2025 11:57 AM (D7oie) 278
...but they had a tremendous impact on the history of Europe, beyond Ireland, Scotland, and Britain.
Posted by: March Hare They attacked Constantinople in 860. They got out and about a bit. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 19, 2025 11:58 AM (Dm8we) 279
Once started to read Mao's little red book. Got to a point where he stated the question 'Don't we want the state to wither away?' He followed that up with something along the lines of 'Yes, but not yet.'
Governments are just groups of people, given authority, to act out their whims and wishes. And as it turns out, most people can't be trusted with authority. Certainly not those who seek to gain authority. The End. Posted by: Easy at January 19, 2025 11:58 AM (yAQn+) 280
Also a shout of "Thanks" to the Moron/ettes who recomme dead P.J. Fitzsimmons Anty Boisjoly series. Set in the late-1920's among Britains Upper Class, these are fun mysteries, full of clever word play and witticisms. I've listened to the first two as they are perfect for working out, especially on the treadmill or the elliptical. (Hmmm... Is that a new genre of books?)
Posted by: March Hare at January 19, 2025 11:59 AM (jfX+U) 281
My Kindle Fire was pushed off the high kitchen table by the cat and the screen was cracked.
It was only $20 more you buy a new one. I am delighted that all the books I bought for it are available to free re-download. Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 19, 2025 12:00 PM (ZmEVT) 282
If anyone is interested in chess, Tata Steel 2025 coverage is here:
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$20 more over the cost and delay of a new screen.
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Once started to read Mao's little red book. Got to a point where he stated the question 'Don't we want the state to wither away?' He followed that up with something along the lines of 'Yes, but not yet.' Because the people's revolution was still under attack by enemies within and without, and the state had to maintain power and control in defense of the revolution.
Which I took to mean that the state couldn't wither away until there was nothing opposed to the people's revolution anywhere in the world. Nothing, not even the thought of some individual somewhere. The people who think it just hasn't been done right will always ignore that. Posted by: Just Some Guy at January 19, 2025 11:33 AM (q3u5l) “We need to maintain the dictatorship of the proletariat just until the counterrevolutionaries are dealt with and the future of stateless communism is secured” == “just the tip”. Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 19, 2025 12:01 PM (FC8SQ) 285
Thanks for another tasty book thread, Perfessor!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 19, 2025 12:03 PM (kpS4V) 286
Back on Duty
WE HAZ A NOOD Posted by: Skip at January 19, 2025 12:05 PM (fwDg9) 287
Thank you, Perfessor. Have a great week, everybody
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 19, 2025 12:05 PM (6pFnP) 288
Bad guys are conducting reconnaissance on American churches, folks.
Three man teams in Virginia and California used identical methods within the last week or so. Two men photographed the exteriors and interiors of the churches. Look up "first amendment audit" on Youtube. It's a form of trolling. Posted by: Oddbob at January 19, 2025 11:44 AM (/y8xj) If they enter the church, they are trespassing. Take them captive, get all their ID, and get their vehicle ID, too. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 19, 2025 12:07 PM (8zz6B) Posted by: girldog at January 19, 2025 12:22 PM (GL1fM) 290
"After watching a two-star movie about Detroit's own Purple Gang on TCM, I thought I'd read up on these nice young Jewish boys with the entrepreneurial spirit."
About 40 years ago I tried a civil lawsuit in which the defendant had been a member of the Purple Gang-he was mentioned in the Kefauver hearings of the early 1950s. He didn't testify at our trials (the case was tried to a mistrial twice, and the guy died before we could go for a third try) and I never heard him speak, but he was a skinny little geek (maybe 5', 4") who dressed in dusty looking mid-brown sport coats and shirts. He'd apparently made good in "business" as the lawsuit involved land worth a few million or so, and when he died we were able to immediately settle the case at our estimate of damages because his estate was in a hurry to resolve all outstanding matters and the half-million to a few million in dispute in our lawsuit wasn't worth arguing over if it delayed closing the estate. Posted by: Pope John 20th at January 19, 2025 12:44 PM (uk4V/) 291
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'people already forget how bad the Obama administration was for America.' I remember only too well. Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 19, 2025 01:22 PM (3wi/L) 292
Thank you for posting about Jerry Boyd.
I love his books, and was waiting for new ones to come out. I liked his characters and their morals. His books gave me a pleasant, restful weekend and helped me recover to face the next week's grind. Posted by: Rue Sherwood at January 19, 2025 01:38 PM (Nc9ZR) 293
Mention was made about "Modern society being rebuilt from the personal libraries of morons"...In the series 1632++, by Eric Flint, something very similar occurs. An entire West Virginia town from the 70's is instantly transported, intact, and dropped into 1632 Germany. Not only do the Coal Miner locals have some intact technology, cars, guns, supplies, they even have a coal mine and powerplant. But the most valuable thing is the history books, and older books that inform them about how to build the tools and machines that created the original industrial revolution. They also use early american political/govt ideals and ideals to remake all of europe. I quite enjoyed reading most of the following books...the "World" of the series is now kept alive by numerous individual Fan continuation submissions. And there is even a newspaper, submissions controlled by the canon of prior published books, papers, all done by fan submission as well.(I stopped keeping up several years ago, but am ready to jump back in now that there are another half dozen of more books available)
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As far as currently reading....
I re-read Dune, and the original Herbert books in the trilogy. Then made a chronological list of the other books by his son.(and others), there are 37 in all "Official" books/short stories. I am about 22 books/stories deep into that journey. Posted by: birddog at January 19, 2025 01:53 PM (GbZG2) 295
Dang. I seem to have missed a thread with lots of subjects for me to address.
Wait'll next week. Posted by: Weak Geek at January 19, 2025 08:04 PM (p/isN) 296
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