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Wednesday Overnight Open Thread - January 29, 2025 [TRex]

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Good evening Horde. The time has come for mid-week shenanigans of the overnight variety.

This is the Wednesday night ONT.

[Gulfport, Mississippi. Just like the sign says.]

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Prayers up for those involved in the aviation incident over the Potomac River near Reagan National Airport. A helicopter apparently collided with an American Airlines CRJ-700 on final approach into DCA from Wichita. Does not look good.

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What does Ass mean in English?

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Learning English with Gallagher:

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Saturday Night Live does George Washington:

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Farfegnugen made the list but not Bless Your Heart?

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The ONT is here to help. Do not confuse your interrobang with your tittle or your glabella with your columella nasi. Definitely do not claim vagitus if you really have wamble:

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50 State Accents:

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The Buc ee's store locator looks different after Jan 20:

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Give me a toot, Vasili. One toot only, please.

UK navy mistook farting whale for phantom Russians trying to track their nuclear subs


What is going on with the Brits?

Britains first ever cyber-farting case: Woman, 25, faces jail after bombarding her boyfriend's ex with videos of her farting

In Britains first ever cyber-farting case, Evans bombarded her with several "inappropriate" videos of herself passing wind that were "indecent or grossly offensive."

Prosecutor Diane Williams told magistrates at Caernarfon, north Wales, that in the first video message: "She proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera on her bottom and passing the gas."

On December 22, there were three more videos of her letting rip.

Ms Williams said that over the course of the next few days, another four were sent of the same nature, showing "Miss Evans passing wind, her face smiling at the camera."

Evans was handed a 12-month community order, and defended her actions to The Sun, branding the case against her "petty".

Here it comes:

Evans, who was said to have mental health problems, was also handed 15 rehabilitation sessions, 60 days alcohol abstinence monitoring and a two-year restraining order. She must pay £100 compensation and £199 costs.

Mental problems, huh? Never would have guessed. Looks like the victim only gets a hundred pounds for their distress.

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Is this what happens without sufficient access to daylight? Long winters in the Nordic countries makes people do strange things.

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Ice marathon runner dons polar bear suit, breaks world record

Swedish duo breaks record for 13-hour table tennis rally

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Capitals goalie cites flying nacho distraction for allowing goal vs. Oilers

A tray of cheesy nachos flew from the stands and onto the ice, distracting Logan Thompson from stopping a shot during a narrow victory over the Edmonton Oilers, the Washington Capitals goalie said.

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Time for science! Apparatus for Facilitating the Birth of a Child (in other words, childbirth by centrifugal force). They thought of everything. It even has a net to catch the baby emerging at speed. Wonder why this did not catch on?

Yes, it received a patent in 1963. TRex is not aware of any cases of use in practice. If you try to become the first, please send a video.

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Auction alert: 1954 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R Stromlinienwagen from the Indianapolis Speedway Museum collection. RM Sotheby's has set an auction estimate of "in excess of €50 million." A single car auction at 2pm local time on Feb 1 at the Mercedes Benz Museum in Stuttgart, Germany will help find the car a new home. If you win, please consider giving rides to interested Hordelings.

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Since we are talking about Germany, here is a Rammstein 61 hour stage build time lapse from Dresden:

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Update for the official Ace of Spades ONT 2025 Prediction Challenge.

Of the ten events in the challenge, three are already underway. Trudeau has announced he is leaving and the President announced declassification of JFK files. For full credit, Trudeau has to actually leave office and JFK files need to be actually released, but the wheels are in motion. 17 of you guessed yes to both. Preliminary congratulations if you guessed those.

RFK, Jr. has made it to Senate hearings but has not cleared a vote yet. (The prediction was whether he got confirmed and stayed in office through the end of the year.)

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Moving in Stereo with the Cars for a big ONT finish:

Tried to find a live performance but could not find anything that came close to the original studio version. The studio version is probably better because it distinctly makes use of both left and right speakers. Phoebe Cates says hello but will not appear on the ONT for reasons.

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1 Praying for lots of survivors

Posted by: Ciampino - what do the Greenlanders want? at January 29, 2025 10:02 PM (KjLnc)

2 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at January 29, 2025 10:02 PM (w3u3d)

3 First!!

Posted by: Jmel at January 29, 2025 10:02 PM (bVhJi)

4 Yay! Hanging out at Wednesday Over Night Thread (WONT), as is our WONT....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:02 PM (QGaXH)

5 Congrats Ciampion

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at January 29, 2025 10:03 PM (w3u3d)

6 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 10:04 PM (WXNFJ)

7 I miss Edinburgh.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:04 PM (dDmld)

8 Off to the content

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at January 29, 2025 10:04 PM (w3u3d)

9 Rex, T! Hello and thanks!

Posted by: Doof at January 29, 2025 10:04 PM (uACWf)

10 SNL is still a thing?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:05 PM (dDmld)

11 Dang. Prayers up for the victims of the crash.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 29, 2025 10:05 PM (W/lyH)

12 We demand common sense farting control!!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM (WXNFJ)

13 11 Dang. Prayers up for the victims of the crash.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 29, 2025 10:05 PM (W/lyH)

72 hour rule in effect?

Watch it turn out to be under-trained DEI ATC.......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM (QGaXH)

14 Hey, TRex!

Posted by: Bulg at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM (77rzZ)

15 50 million Euros. How much is that in real money?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM (dDmld)

16 @mirandadevine
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FAA statement confirms the tragedy tonight in which American Airlines Flight 5342 from Wichita collided in midair with a Sikorsky H-60 helicopter on approach to Reagan Washington National Airport around 9 p.m.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM (mlg/3)

17 SNL sucks.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM (W/lyH)

18 Praying for survivors! Weird coincidence with the first two items: I went to first grade in Gulfport and had just moved to Washington DC shortly before the Air Florida crash. I remember that night so vividly!

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 29, 2025 10:07 PM (rbKZ6)

19 I don't know if it's been mentioned but an aircraft collided with a helicopter on approach/landing at Reagan Airport. Rescue operations are under way. It's very early but the first reports state it was an AA flight from Wichita KS and a police helicopter. No reports on fatalities. Not sure what's happening.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 29, 2025 10:07 PM (zkOVr)

20 Can we please have another Miracle of the Potomac?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:07 PM (Cp5Ma)

21 Hmm, I don't see "F*ck you you f*cking f*ck" on that list.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (lHPJf)

22 We demand common sense farting control!!

They need to deal first with the butter knives.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (mH6SG)

23 14 Hey, TRex!

Posted by: Bulg at January 29, 2025 10:06 PM
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Good evening Bulg!

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (IQ6Gq)

24 Hey! How'm I s'posed to get First if you post the ONT on time and I'm not here yet? I'm filing a claim. I want to talk to the manager. I'm hiring a lawyer. Discrimination against folks who aren't watching the clock.

Meanwhile, howdy y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - oneth at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (S9FPP)

25 LA Mayor Karen Bass is hiring an ‘outside consultant’ to rebuild the Pacific Palisades in a more equitable and environmentally sustainable way. She intends to award the contract without authorization from the property owners.

https://tinyurl.com/y4wbfr7a

Posted by: Ciampino - needs guillotine at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (KjLnc)

26 Great song behind the picture up top. The first time I heard it was in the movie Vanishing Point.
Background music for the hot chick riding the motorcycle in the desert in the nood.
Nice memory.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (Lo97M)

27 9 Rex, T! Hello and thanks!

Posted by: Doof at January 29, 2025 10:04 PM
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Good evening Herr Doofmeister!

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:09 PM (IQ6Gq)

28 Less than 1 and 1/2 and out of here, my uncle's funeral is in morning

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2025 10:09 PM (w5cj/)

29 I'm a dummy and didn't read the ONT first.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 29, 2025 10:09 PM (zkOVr)

30 Evenin'

Looks real bad at Reagan National. With the amount of air traffic in the DC area, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. Those ATC guys have a tough job.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 10:09 PM (sAmhv)

31 Fuck this DEI bullshit.

We know NOTHIGN right now except it seems a helicopter was in air space it should not have been in.

They are trying to find survivors.

Think of them and their families.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:09 PM (Cp5Ma)

32 Love Gulf shores. So chill and down to earth. Nice folks, slower pace. Lots of Oyst

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at January 29, 2025 10:10 PM (hftn9)

33 OMG. I’m still doing the ONT. For whomever is in charge, please note my attendance.

Posted by: RI Red at January 29, 2025 10:10 PM (mMtti)

34 Hunted for the "Gallagher on English" clip to post in the comments. Scrolled down just a teensy bit more, saw it was already embedded.

Humorous man, but screwed over so much in his lifetime.

Posted by: Another Anon at January 29, 2025 10:10 PM (QNMaY)

35
In the online Flight Simulator community, (I hate that term, community), flight simmers include both pilots & ATC. Yeah, there are lots of people out there who enjoy "playing" Air Traffic Controller and take it quite seriously.

These people get all the gear and play their part for the sim pilots to add to the "immersion" of the "game."

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:10 PM (4dSnS)

36 What's so great about Gulfport?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:10 PM (dDmld)

37 ...oyster dive bars with character.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at January 29, 2025 10:11 PM (hftn9)

38 Puddleglum - send me an email please.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

39 Thanks for the dandy ONT, TRex!

Ahhh, the Panama Canal. Photos are nice but it's best seen in person. Not sure about the name change to Buc-ee's though!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 29, 2025 10:11 PM (rxCpr)

40 If you win, please consider giving rides to interested Hordelings.

Rides, in a single-seat sports car?

OK, if I win, 'ettes can sit in my lap.

No 'rons, sorry.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 10:11 PM (DgGvY)

41 a Japanese chicken yodeler? Really?

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 29, 2025 10:11 PM (IQ6Gq)

42 Lots of songs 'bout Mississippi, but what about Misterpippi?

Posted by: River Stay Away From My Door at January 29, 2025 10:12 PM (G5+As)

43 So much content and some of it was useful! Thanks, TRex! 😀

Posted by: Piper at January 29, 2025 10:13 PM (QzINz)

44 hehehehe, tittle, hehehehehe...

Posted by: Butthead at January 29, 2025 10:13 PM (i0F8b)

45 What's so great about Gulfport?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:10 PM (dDmld)


It's on the coast and gets into the 70s in January. What's not great?

Posted by: Dr. T at January 29, 2025 10:14 PM (lHPJf)

46 Thanks and a good evening to you, Mr. TRex.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 29, 2025 10:14 PM (mH6SG)

47 The music scene in NYC was great in 1970. Mountain was a fine part of it.

Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slurp. at January 29, 2025 10:14 PM (G5+As)

48 The FAA has confirmed that it was a Sikorsky H-60.

Seeing elsewhere that the chopper had a callsign of PAT25. I believe PAT is the Army's Priority Air Transport unit which is basically a military taxi service.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:15 PM (IQ6Gq)

49 Mental problems, huh? Never would have guessed. Looks like the victim only gets a hundred pounds for their distress.

That's only twelve-and-a-half pounds per fart video sent! Cheap at twice the price, to taunt your BF's ex!

Posted by: foul Mathematics at January 29, 2025 10:15 PM (DgGvY)

50 The HH-60 from what I read is used for insertions and exfils, also rescue. Probably had no more on board than maybe four.

I had biz in VA in mid January 1982 and flew into DC National the day after the Florida Air crash, cranes and gear all clustered at the bridge and along the banks. I had repeat trips for half the year and always thought the DC airport a dicey place to be going with all the military bases nearby.

I pray for all aboard, that the end was instantaneous.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 29, 2025 10:15 PM (KiBMU)

51 43 So much content and some of it was useful! Thanks, TRex! 😀

Posted by: Piper at January 29, 2025 10:13 PM
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You're welcome! Cheers!

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:16 PM (IQ6Gq)

52 aviation incident over the Potomac River near Reagan National Airport

O Lord. First I've heard of this.

______________________

1954 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R Stromlinienwagen

No flames down the side? Not interested.

Posted by: mindful webworker - tooth at January 29, 2025 10:16 PM (S9FPP)

53 I watched Criterion's Blue-ray of the Japanese movie "House" from 1977. I'm not sure what I could add here. Let's just say the movie is sui generis and you've never seen anything like it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 29, 2025 10:16 PM (CHHv1)

54 26 Great song behind the picture up top. The first time I heard it was in the movie Vanishing Point.
Background music for the hot chick riding the motorcycle in the desert in the nood.
Nice memory.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at January 29, 2025 10:08 PM (Lo97M)
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I remember that scene. Unnecessary but nice. Actor was Barry someone driving a Dodge Challenger from NYC to LA.

Posted by: Ciampino - enjoyed that movie at January 29, 2025 10:17 PM (KjLnc)

55 Quack

Posted by: Bulg at January 29, 2025 10:17 PM (77rzZ)

56 So probably a UH-60L, can carry eleven.

At least not a VH-60.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:17 PM (Cp5Ma)

57 46 Thanks and a good evening to you, Mr. TRex.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 29, 2025 10:14 PM
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And a good evening to you as well, Commodore Deal.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

58 1954 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R Stromlinienwagen

No flames down the side? Not interested.
Posted by: mindful webworker - tooth at January 29, 2025 10:16 PM (S9FPP)

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Originally it had a Confederate flag on the hood. I guess they can't do that anymore.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:19 PM (dDmld)

59 That almost looks deliberate

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 29, 2025 10:19 PM (2Z+bq)

60 The video of the crash is from some distane and I know virtually nothing about aeronautics, so I'd like to hear from those who do: the small craft which is presumably the helicopter comes from the left on what looks like a straight line. It looks like it would have had a few seconds to alter its path but doesn't appear to. And clearly it should not have been in the approach path. don't understand how a helicopter can be making a beeline like that and not make an evasive move.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 29, 2025 10:19 PM (HdrJu)

61 39 Thanks for the dandy ONT, TRex!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at January 29, 2025 10:11 PM
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{{{Salute and wave of the cap to Legally Sufficient}}}

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

62 A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!

Posted by: Bully! at January 29, 2025 10:20 PM (G5+As)

63 Email sent, TRex

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 10:20 PM (sAmhv)

64 Vocabulary I scored 100%. I collect and cherish neglected words, and keep them alive as much as I can.

Posted by: jc at January 29, 2025 10:21 PM (JonzF)

65 65 Vocabulary I scored 100%. I collect and cherish neglected words, and keep them alive as much as I can.
Posted by: jc at January 29, 2025 10:21 PM (JonzF)

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You're a wonderful portmanteau.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:22 PM (dDmld)

66 Does a heli that size have blind spots?

If the plane were approaching from behind the heli pilot's left shoulder, the plane might not have been noticed until too late.

But why wasn't air control warning them off?

Posted by: Piercello at January 29, 2025 10:22 PM (1Osw1)

67 Farfegnugen made the list but not Bless Your Heart?

A significant omission. Also.....

The "miffed" section is missing "fudge."

The "son-of-a" section is missing "beech."

And half of the "exasperated" section is just Yosemite Sam's script.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 10:22 PM (DgGvY)

68 The first thing I thought of was Terrorist Attack. You just don't see a lot of helicopters crashing into airplanes at airports...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (TGPs7)

69 I suppose we'll know a bit more about what happened by tomorrow evening.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (mH6SG)

70 Evening, ONT Horde, and condolences to those who lost loved ones in the collision at DC airport.

For the record, I had just got in the door and posted "Last" on the cafe thread, fully expecting the ONT to be up already. Had no inkling of the tragedy in DC, or I would not have been so flip.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (8zz6B)

71 Originally it had a Confederate flag on the hood. I guess they can't do that anymore.
Posted by: Cicero

It is not unusual at all to see the Stars and Bars hereabouts in TN - especially during Memorial Day. On the square here in town is a memorial to all of our county's war dead. For the War Between the States' the listed KIA are roughly equal between the Blue and the Gray.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (WXNFJ)

72 Spent a couple of summers in Biloxi (Keesler). I liked the Gulf Coast.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (sAmhv)

73 The video of the crash is from some distane and I know virtually nothing about aeronautics, so I'd like to hear from those who do: the small craft which is presumably the helicopter comes from the left on what looks like a straight line. It looks like it would have had a few seconds to alter its path but doesn't appear to. And clearly it should not have been in the approach path. don't understand how a helicopter can be making a beeline like that and not make an evasive move.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 29, 2025 10:19 PM (HdrJu)

Yeah if the pilot wanted to hit the plane he couldn't have had better aim. Well, if you see John McClane wandering around you know shit is serious.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (VwHCD)

74 >Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 29, 2025 10:19 PM (HdrJu)

Your observations are the same as mine. The one craft approached the other from the same level, straight on. Not like it was some kind of a weird blind approach.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (2Z+bq)

75 TRex, bringing the content of awesome! Thanks. Many summer days of listening to the Carlin album. And knew the 7 words when I saw the title. And early Gallagher was great. The 54 Mercedes is a beautiful car. Heading back up to the content for more rabbit holes.

Posted by: scampydog at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (41CYW)

76 Evening all, thx TRex for the giant ONT. I think it was Narsha Warfield doing standup who said " I go through the projects and I hear ridiculous names . Any day now I expect to hear Farfegnugen, little Farfegnugen Jones get over hear"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM (6v8aM)

77 The first thing I thought of was Terrorist Attack. You just don't see a lot of helicopters crashing into airplanes at airports...
Posted by: Mister Ghost


No point speculating at this point.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM (mlg/3)

78 24 Hey! How'm I s'posed to get First if you post the ONT on time and I'm not here yet? I'm filing a claim. I want to talk to the manager. I'm hiring a lawyer. Discrimination against folks who aren't watching the clock.

Meanwhile, howdy y'all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - oneth

When one is tardy, it is traditional to state your excuse here. No matter, no fruit cup for you this evening.

Posted by: Cruel, But Fair. at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM (G5+As)

79 Two G rated curses I use often are Simpsons generated:

Son of a diddly!
For cryin' out glayvin!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Packing to leave CO at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM (Ad8y9)

80 I love that ‘54 Mercedes because I had that Hot Wheels car, it was awesome. I had the Hot Wheels race track where I could race it against the Scooby mobile.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM (7MHHr)

81 @libsoftiktok
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BREAKING: 4 people have been rescued from the water, according to NBC4 🙏🏻

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM (mlg/3)

82 English is hard mostly because of two things:
It's Germanic AND Latin (Saxon and French), with rules from both languages.
And it has evolved in some cases but not all. (Across a really wide range of geography.)

If you read a lot and listened to a lot of different people growing up, you pulled it all in organically. If not (or you can't handle "exceptions"), then you struggle.

Posted by: GWB at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (hzHvq)

83 Ever since a USMC F-4 Phantom II sliced a DC-9 and killed everyone over SoCal, all military flights must be in communication with FAA ATC.

There is what is called controlled air space around every airport that other aircraft cannot transit without express permission of ATC. These air spaces are clearly marked on all charts used by pilots.

So again, I must ask what the hell was the helicopter doing in air space it had no business in.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (Cp5Ma)

84 There isn't a man alive in the eighties who doesn't immediately , when hearing Moving in Stereo, think of Phoebe Cates on the diving board

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (6v8aM)

85 Good news - Hegseth just tweeted, so at least he was not on board.

Also Sean Duffy just got sworn in as Transportation Secretary today. Tough way to start that gig.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

86 1954 Mercedes-Benz W 196 R Stromlinienwagen
No flames down the side? Not interested.
Posted by: mindful webworker


I thought the name would mean something cool, but it's just "streamlined car." Boooo-ring.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 10:27 PM (DgGvY)

87 65
A credenza is nicer than a commode.

Posted by: Ciampino - But which is more useful? at January 29, 2025 10:27 PM (KjLnc)

88 My sister Violet and her husband Bruce also own a Mercedes and have room for a pony.

Posted by: Hyacinth Bucket at January 29, 2025 10:27 PM (G5+As)

89
Remember this tomorrow: the Democrat Shits in California "warned" PDT "not to politicize" the CA arson fires.

Remember it tomorrow, when these same Shits in Congress and other Democrats politicize this aircraft collision.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:28 PM (4dSnS)

90 76 TRex, bringing the content of awesome! Thanks.

Posted by: scampydog at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM
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Thanks! Enjoy the rabbit holes! This ONT ended up being pretty random.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:28 PM (IQ6Gq)

91 Anglish linguage: We can have parents, a mother and a father. We can have children, sons and daughters. Likewise siblings, brothers and sisters. We even have cousins, although no specific names for male and female. But we have no word for aunt and uncle‽‽‽

(Note the use of the interrobang!)

Historical quoth
http://mindfulwebworks.com/
art-of/the-plural-of-mouse

The plural of mouse is mice,
a flock of goose is geese,
but more than one house is not hice,
nor a flock of moose known as meese.

You might have a couple of beers,
you might wish a hundred wishes,
but you can't see a couple of deers,
and a hundred fish are not fishes.

Yet if I have two scissors, and I give you one,
each now has scissors. English is fun!

Originally commented on BenK's Wednesday Morning News Dump, September 10, 2014 09:54 AM
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=351689
#c22618657

Posted by: mindful webworker - threed at January 29, 2025 10:29 PM (S9FPP)

92 Also Sean Duffy just got sworn in as Transportation Secretary today. Tough way to start that gig.
Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:27 PM (IQ6Gq)

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We're going to really miss the firm command and quiet competence of the Chestfeeder.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:29 PM (dDmld)

93 I wonder if we will see other "incidents" such as this over the coming year.

Purely accidental to the untrained eye or "I'm just feeding you all panicfake"

Just like the Democraps did over the last 4 years.

Time to bring your powder up to loading, they are going to get desperate & dangerous very soon.

Posted by: Nightwatch at January 29, 2025 10:29 PM (pggNd)

94 Mental problems, huh? Never would have guessed. Looks like the victim only gets a hundred pounds for their distress.

That's only twelve-and-a-half pounds per fart video sent! Cheap at twice the price, to taunt your BF's ex!
Posted by: foul Mathematics at January 29, 2025 10:15 PM (DgGvY)

If someone sent me fart videos, I would LMAO. Farting chick would be a One, except for the purple hair. Should never have gone to court. Settle it by nude Jello wrestling, I say.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:29 PM (8zz6B)

95 77 Evening all, thx TRex for the giant ONT.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 29, 2025 10:25 PM
***
You're welcome. Farfugnugen is such a great, multi-purpose word.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:30 PM (IQ6Gq)

96 A credenza is nicer than a commode.
Posted by: Ciampino


Just remember which one to use on a late Saturday night.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:30 PM (mlg/3)

97 Sorry I'm late, I was on Strawberry Hill explaining to Fats Domino that he probably needed a better spellchecker on his GPS.

Posted by: tankdemon at January 29, 2025 10:30 PM (R256O)

98 Speaking of SNL, I just saw that Martha Stewart was going to guest host but her parole officer nixed it. Too much coke around?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 29, 2025 10:30 PM (L/fGl)

99 Good evening morons и спасибо TRex

Everyone should learn English. It is a prerequisite for an orderly mind.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 10:30 PM (RIvkX)

100 A credenza is nicer than a commode.
Posted by: Ciampino

I have no knowledge of opera terms.

Posted by: Some Rat at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM (+VovS)

101 and a hundred fish are not fishes.
Posted by: mindful webworker


True; a hundred bass are not fishes, they're fish.

One bass, one pike, and one perch can be "fishes," though.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM (DgGvY)

102 The funny thing about those alternative cuss words is that it was put together so long ago that they had no idea just how depraved the people of the future would be. There are quite a few cuss words used today that have no partner on that list. Probably because the list was compiled by a good person.

Posted by: Orson at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM (dIske)

103 "English is the result of Norman soldiers chatting up Saxon tavern wenches."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM (05UY5)

104 84 Ever since a USMC F-4 Phantom II sliced a DC-9 and killed everyone over SoCal, all military flights must be in communication with FAA ATC.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (Cp5Ma)
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Was that the F-4 with a bad transponder? Pilot decided to fly it anyway?

Posted by: Ciampino - fateful decisions at January 29, 2025 10:33 PM (KjLnc)

105 100 Good evening morons и спасибо TRex

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 10:30 PM
***
Good evening and congrats for getting the coveted century post.

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:33 PM (IQ6Gq)

106 That 1954 Mercedes Benz looks like my Pinewood Derby entry in 1973.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 10:34 PM (RIvkX)

107 One bass, one pike, and one perch can be "fishes," though.
Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM (DgGvY)

"Knock, knock."
"Who's there?"
"Dishes"
"Dishes who?"
"Dishes CheeBeeChee North."

(Canadian joke)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:34 PM (8zz6B)

108 "English is the result of Norman soldiers chatting up Saxon tavern wenches."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Dutch sounds like a drunken German trying to speak English

Posted by: Linguistically minded Miklos at January 29, 2025 10:34 PM (xesY+)

109 104 "English is the result of Norman soldiers chatting up Saxon tavern wenches."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM
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Hmmm....apparently my high school and college English classes could have been MUCH more interesting...

Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:35 PM (IQ6Gq)

110 PanicFake?

Disclose.tv@disclosetv
NOW - Doomsday Clock set to 89 seconds to midnight.

-
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 29, 2025 10:35 PM (L/fGl)

111 71 Evening, ONT Horde, and condolences to those who lost loved ones in the collision at DC airport.

For the record, I had just got in the door and posted "Last" on the cafe thread, fully expecting the ONT to be up already. Had no inkling of the tragedy in DC, or I would not have been so flip.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM (8zz6B)

"Had no inkling of the tragedy in DC, or I would not have been so flip."

Fog of war, my friend. No way you could have known.

Hope all is well in AJ.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:35 PM (QGaXH)

112 A credenza is nicer than a commode.
Posted by: Ciampino

Just remember which one to use on a late Saturday night.
Posted by: weft
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Had a guy in to work on the boiler. He was from PA. He asked about a bathroom, I told him that there was ahalf bath with a commode in the next room. He had never heard 'commode' used as a reference to a toliet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 29, 2025 10:35 PM (XeU6L)

113 107 That 1954 Mercedes Benz looks like my Pinewood Derby entry in 1973.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 10:34 PM (RIvkX)

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Not mine. My Pinewood Derby car looked like the Pinewood Derby blank with slightly rounded corners.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:36 PM (dDmld)

114 "Dishes CheeBeeChee North."

(Canadian joke)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I'll stick with KVRS and WWOZ, merci

Posted by: Musically minded Miklos at January 29, 2025 10:36 PM (xesY+)

115 The F-4's oxygen system was in op, TDY base could not fix it, so the plane was flying back to home station at low altitude. IIRC only the GIB survived.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:36 PM (Cp5Ma)

116

There are family members waiting at the airport for loved ones who were flying on the plane.

How awful for everyone.

Posted by: four seasons at January 29, 2025 10:36 PM (3ek7K)

117 Farfegnugen made the list but not Bless Your Heart?

A significant omission. Also.....


——

It might could be omitted because bless your heart isn’t always bad. You could really mean “bless your heart” and not “”well bless your heart”. Context matters.

Posted by: Piper at January 29, 2025 10:37 PM (pZEOD)

118 Had a guy in to work on the boiler. He was from PA. He asked about a bathroom, I told him that there was ahalf bath with a commode in the next room. He had never heard 'commode' used as a reference to a toliet.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


My grandma used to say 'davenport' for the couch. She grew up on a farm. Go figure.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:38 PM (mlg/3)

119 Can we please have another Miracle of the Potomac?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:07 PM

Hope so, maybe 4 so far survived? Prayers for all involved.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 10:38 PM (4p0Xq)

120 Added more manga style images

https://tensor.art/u/727481333235843246

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:38 PM (Cp5Ma)

121
It might could be omitted because bless your heart isn’t always bad. You could really mean “bless your heart” and not “”well bless your heart”. Context matters.
Posted by: Piper

True.

Can't blame a girl for lumpy grits if her Mama didn't teach her.

Posted by: Red Eye Gravy minded Miklos at January 29, 2025 10:39 PM (xesY+)

122 "English is the result of Norman soldiers chatting up Saxon tavern wenches."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy


That's one of the two quotes that define the English language.

"English is the result of Norman men-at-arms attempting to pick up Saxon barmaids and is no more legitimate than any of the other results." - H. Beam Piper


"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." - James D. Nicoll

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 10:39 PM (DgGvY)

123 Condolences and prayers for the crash people.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at January 29, 2025 10:39 PM (usyvb)

124 If you win, please consider giving rides to interested Hordelings.

Ummm, TRex, you realize that's a single-seater, right?

Posted by: GWB at January 29, 2025 10:40 PM (hzHvq)

125 My grandma used to say 'davenport' for the couch. She grew up on a farm. Go figure.
Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:38 PM (mlg/3

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Pfft. All the cool kids sat on Chesterfields.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:40 PM (dDmld)

126
Saxon birds.

I call 'em birds.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:40 PM (4dSnS)

127 Good evening and congrats for getting the coveted century post.
Posted by: TRex at January 29, 2025 10:33 PM (IQ6Gq)
===

I'm skilled.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 10:40 PM (RIvkX)

128 73 Spent a couple of summers in Biloxi (Keesler). I liked the Gulf Coast.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 10:23 PM

My dad was stationed there in 1965! Beautiful place!

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 29, 2025 10:40 PM (rbKZ6)

129 Dutch sounds like a drunken German trying to speak English
Posted by: Linguistically minded Miklos

Bavarian German is a completely different language than that of Hamburg or Bremen.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM (WXNFJ)

130 83 English is hard mostly because of two things:
It's Germanic AND Latin (Saxon and French), with rules from both languages.
And it has evolved in some cases but not all. (Across a really wide range of geography.)

If you read a lot and listened to a lot of different people growing up, you pulled it all in organically. If not (or you can't handle "exceptions"), then you struggle.
Posted by: GWB at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (hzHvq)

"English is hard mostly because ..." they made it up as they went along......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM (QGaXH)

131 Chesterfields?

So you smoked your couch?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM (Cp5Ma)

132 These people get all the gear and play their part for the sim pilots to add to the "immersion" of the "game."

Many of the sim pilots are also real pilots and many of the sim ATC guys are also real ATC. Love Airforceproud95's YouTube videos of this stuff. Some people don't like that he got more serious when he started flying real planes, but it's quite enjoyable.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM (5hs8R)

133 Pfft. All the cool kids sat on Chesterfields.
Posted by: Cicero

And smoked them

Posted by: Miklos, roling his own at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM (xesY+)

134 84 Ever since a USMC F-4 Phantom II sliced a DC-9 and killed everyone over SoCal, all military flights must be in communication with FAA ATC.

There is what is called controlled air space around every airport that other aircraft cannot transit without express permission of ATC. These air spaces are clearly marked on all charts used by pilots.

So again, I must ask what the hell was the helicopter doing in air space it had no business in.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (Cp5Ma)

72 hour rule.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:42 PM (QGaXH)

135 Remember this tomorrow: the Democrat Shits in California "warned" PDT "not to politicize" the CA arson fires.

Remember it tomorrow, when these same Shits in Congress and other Democrats politicize this aircraft collision.


Already happening. Dems and media are saying this crash is Trump's fault and he should resign in favor of Kamala.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 29, 2025 10:42 PM (5hs8R)

136 Hope all is well in AJ.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:35 PM (QGaXH)

Sprinkled rain this morning, but seems to be clearing now. Kind of chilly, due to warm up next week.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (8zz6B)

137 Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Netflix@netflix
Little House on the Prairie, a reimagining of the Laura Ingalls Wilder book series, is coming to Netflix!
Part family drama, part survival tale, and part origin story, the series will offer a kaleidoscopic view of the struggles and triumphs of those who shaped the American West.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (L/fGl)

138 Bavarian German is a completely different language than that of Hamburg or Bremen.
Posted by: Tonypete


!!!!

Posted by: Major Hochdeutschstetter at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (xesY+)

139 So you smoked your couch?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM (Cp5Ma)

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No. I smoked my neighbor's Vega with my '68 El Camino.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (dDmld)

140 Pascagoula, gateway to Gulfport.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 10:44 PM (WXNFJ)

141
I hardly ever watch The Five, but I always get a kick outta seeing Gutfeld with his head down, busily writing.

He's obviously writing jokes & his monologue for his show. It's just funny.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:44 PM (4dSnS)

142 Ummm, TRex, you realize that's a single-seater, right?
Posted by: GWB at January 29, 2025 10:40 PM (hzHvq)

Nothing a Sawzall won't fix.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:44 PM (8zz6B)

143 90
Remember this tomorrow: the Democrat Shits in California "warned" PDT "not to politicize" the CA arson fires.

Remember it tomorrow, when these same Shits in Congress and other Democrats politicize this aircraft collision.
Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:28 PM (4dSnS)

If it turns out it was caused by some under-trained, under-qualified ATC DEI hire it'll get memory holed faster than you can say 'bob's your uncle....'

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 10:44 PM (QGaXH)

144 No. I smoked my neighbor's Vega with my '68 El Camino.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (dDmld)

There were 2 kinds of vegas in my day. Ones with a cutting deck, and ones with a small block chevy.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 29, 2025 10:45 PM (VwHCD)

145 Felix Pappalardi, bass player of Mountain, was a very talented guy. Excellent record producer,(produced one of Cream's albums), great bass player, singer, songwriter. His wife, Gail Collins Pappalardi was likewise talented. Poet, lyricist, did the art on several Mountain albums.

As time went on, they decided to have an "open marriage". In a jealous rage, Gail shot Felix and killed him. She only served something like 10 months for manslaughter, but was shunned by the music scene for the rest of her life.

Posted by: Love Your Spouse at January 29, 2025 10:45 PM (G5+As)

146 Netflix@netflix
Little House on the Prairie, a reimagining of the Laura Ingalls Wilder book series, is coming to Netflix!
Part family drama, part survival tale, and part origin story, the series will offer a kaleidoscopic view of the struggles and triumphs of those who shaped the American West.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex,

Trans surgery in those days must have been painful.

Posted by: Miklos currently consuming schnitzel at January 29, 2025 10:45 PM (xesY+)

147 Part family drama, part survival tale, and part origin story, the series will offer a kaleidoscopic view of the struggles and triumphs of those who shaped the American West.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (L/fGl)

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I got this.

Herds of militant lesbians blackened the plain as far as the eye could see.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 10:45 PM (dDmld)

148 Paw, let me axe you a question!

Posted by: Black Laura Ingalls at January 29, 2025 10:45 PM (CHV3h)

149 You knew you grew up in a rich family if you had a day-bed....
Or they were all whores.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:46 PM (mlg/3)

150 Bavarian German is a completely different language than that of Hamburg or Bremen.

Thanks to mass communications over the last century or so a bit less than it used to be.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 29, 2025 10:46 PM (lUFok)

151 63 A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!
Posted by: Bully! at January 29, 2025 10:20 PM (G5+As)

I think you have that backwards.

Posted by: tankdemon at January 29, 2025 10:46 PM (R256O)

152
I'll tell you right now: they're going to blame doge & budget cuts.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:46 PM (4dSnS)

153 60 passengers and 4 crew on the AA flight and 3 crew on the helicopter.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 29, 2025 10:46 PM (w2lnC)

154 104 "English is the result of Norman soldiers chatting up Saxon tavern wenches."

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at January 29, 2025 10:32 PM (05UY5)
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Funny, hopefully not 'Wrong hole!'
But what of all the Germanic words?

Posted by: Ciampino - porco mouton at January 29, 2025 10:47 PM (KjLnc)

155 Frontier sodomy is the best sodomy!

Posted by: Queer Laura Ingalls at January 29, 2025 10:47 PM (CHV3h)

156 Another air disaster at LAX decades ago.

Controller dealing with two simultaneous air space incursions. While he fixated on the Grumman the other incursion kept on flying. Plane was on VFR and the pilot apparently lost. By the time the controller finished with the Grumman, the other plane collided with a PSA DC-9 resulting in a complete loss of life at a place called Ceritos.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:47 PM (Cp5Ma)

157 I've been flying full time since 1986 and I can tell you with extreme certainty that the greatest hazard to flight currently within the last 10 years is Terminal Area/Ground operations Air Traffic Controllers. Full-Stop. Every Near-Miss I have had is because of a Controller turning me into someone on departure/arrival or clearing me to take off in front of someone landing or clearing me to land with someone on the runway. You have to triple-think every clearance and look both ways before you commit.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 29, 2025 10:48 PM (y1Mvi)

158 67 Does a heli that size have blind spots?

If the plane were approaching from behind the heli pilot's left shoulder, the plane might not have been noticed until too late.

But why wasn't air control warning them off?
Posted by: Piercello at January 29, 2025 10:22 PM (1Osw1)

The angle of the video it looks like the helicopter is going straight for the plane.

Have been on that landing over the Potomac many times.

During the day I would always look at the monuments as DC is a beautiful city. This is very sad. I hope it was an accident and pray for all.

May there be survivors.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 29, 2025 10:48 PM (gi+MR)

159 Girthy ONT.

The English language bears the scars of each invasion the natives lost to. Thus influence by Frisian, French, Norse, Latin (and thus Greek).

Just like Spanish has Arabic/Muslim words in it:
Ojala --I hope/hopefully
Alabad --Praise

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)

160 Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Netflix@netflix
Little House on the Prairie, a reimagining of the Laura Ingalls Wilder book series, is coming to Netflix!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Inigo Montoya knows it doesn't mean "sodomizing" at January 29, 2025 10:49 PM (DgGvY)

161 Nellie Oleson says her penis is bigger than mine!

Posted by: Trans Laura Ingalls at January 29, 2025 10:49 PM (CHV3h)

162 Frontier sodomy is the best sodomy!
Posted by: Queer Laura Ingalls

There's grass on the roof that needs grazin'

Posted by: Lesbian homesteaders at January 29, 2025 10:49 PM (xesY+)

163 DB gets it. It's a mess near the big airports.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 10:49 PM (QB+5g)

164 Bavarian German is a completely different language than that of Hamburg or Bremen.
Posted by: Tonypete


!!!!
Posted by: Major Hochdeutschstetter at January 29, 2025 10:43 PM (xesY+)

I was stationed in Aschaffenburg. Their dialect was called Ascheberger, but other Germans called it Aschebescher, which means ash tray.

Or so I was told when I lived there (shrugs). Still, my German was never great, but it definitely had a different sound than other parts of Germany. Even other parts of Bavaria.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Packing to leave CO at January 29, 2025 10:50 PM (Ad8y9)

165 163 Frontier sodomy is the best sodomy!
Posted by: Queer Laura Ingalls

There's grass on the roof that needs grazin'

Posted by: Lesbian homesteaders at January 29, 2025 10:49 PM (xesY+)

Seems like that's where you'd buy frontier scissors...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:50 PM (ynpvh)

166
You know what's a fun aviation disaster to study?

Tenerife, Canary Islands, 1977.

And it all happened on the ground.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:51 PM (4dSnS)

167 How old is the Alternative Cuss Words list? Forty years old? I have heard about 75% of them used by someone in-person or on TV and radio. I have used about one-third at least once. About one-sixth frequently. I wonder how many of them that the latest two generations (Millennials and X?) have heard and used? My bet is not very many.

Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2025 10:51 PM (aBgBM)

168 I am going through bed, but again will be in prayer for the victims and their families in this horrific plane crash. May God provide comfort and strength to those who lost loved ones as well as healing to the survivors.

Posted by: Piper at January 29, 2025 10:51 PM (pZEOD)

169 Or so I was told when I lived there (shrugs). Still, my German was never great, but it definitely had a different sound than other parts of Germany. Even other parts of Bavaria.
Posted by: Pug Mahon


Vas Tutsi?

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:52 PM (mlg/3)

170 167
You know what's a fun aviation disaster to study?

Tenerife, Canary Islands, 1977.

And it all happened on the ground.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:51 PM (4dSnS)

That was a nasty one. One of the worst in history. And technically, one of the planes was just getting off the ground when it hit the other plane in its way. Something like over 500 died.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:52 PM (ynpvh)

171 Tenerife

Take terrorists planting bombs and a Dutch KLM Captain who thought he was god.

What do you get? Death and disaster.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:52 PM (Cp5Ma)

172 I hear that it's become popular to fart next to one of those "smart thermostats" and laugh at the air quality measurement going batshit.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 29, 2025 10:52 PM (W5ArC)

173 158- Posted by: DBCooper at January 29, 2025 10:48 PM

That is just terrifying!

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 29, 2025 10:53 PM (rbKZ6)

174
Every Near-Miss I have had is because of a Controller turning me into someone on departure/arrival or clearing me to take off in front of someone landing or clearing me to land with someone on the runway. You have to triple-think every clearance and look both ways before you commit.
Posted by: DBCooper


Just an hour ago I remarked how surprising it is ATC doesn't cause more disasters.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:53 PM (4dSnS)

175 I think Sodom was on a plain, which is kinda like a prairie. It all fits.

Posted by: Nellie Oleson at January 29, 2025 10:53 PM (G5+As)

176 And then we have that F-35A in Alaska turning into a lawn dart.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:54 PM (Cp5Ma)

177 Pfft. All the cool kids sat on Chesterfields.
Posted by: Cicero

And smoked them
Posted by: Miklos, roling his own at January 29, 2025 10:41 PM

On the veranda or lanai.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 10:54 PM (4p0Xq)

178 > Trans surgery in those days must have been painful.
Posted by: Miklos currently consuming schnitzel at January 29, 2025 10:45 PM (xesY+)

Eh... a few shots of laudanum did wonders.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 29, 2025 10:54 PM (W5ArC)

179 176 I think Sodom was on a plain, which is kinda like a prairie. It all fits.

Posted by: Nellie Oleson at January 29, 2025 10:53 PM (G5+As)

It ended up being plain disaster.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:54 PM (ynpvh)

180 By the time the controller finished with the Grumman, the other plane collided with a PSA DC-9 resulting in a complete loss of life at a place called Ceritos.
Posted by: Anna Puma


Cerritos, which is like 15-20 min away by air from LAX.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:55 PM (mlg/3)

181
Once we compel those Frogs to execute their northernmost surrender in Greenland, I urge PDJT to move immediately to rename Greenland's capital city to "Nuyuk Nuyuk Nuyuk". Larry, Moe and Curly would insist on it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 29, 2025 10:55 PM (xG4kz)

182 My favorite English plural (albeit old): Kine. It is the only plural that has none of the letters of its singular, Cow.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:56 PM (ynpvh)

183 Buddy of mine was a pilot. Died in a crash. We used to fly together all the time. He told me that if you did what the ATCs said was OK you were donna die. He was cleared to land saw another plane just sitting their on his runway when he was on final. Luckily it was daytime.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 10:56 PM (QB+5g)

184 I had a college roommate who used to get stoned and start gabbing about how someday he was going to learn Silbo Gomero. I had no idea what he was talking about. Steve wasn't exactly what you would call a gentleman and a scholar.

Years later, when the internet became a thing I looked it up. Turns out it's using distinctive whistling as a language. I hadn't heard from the guy in years, but I was tempted to hunt him down just to find out how in the hell he knew about Silbo Gomero. I'm guessing it was something stupid like watching the Discovery Channel or something and being too lazy to change the channel (no remotes back then).

Posted by: Orson at January 29, 2025 10:56 PM (dIske)

185
Check out this mid-air collision with sky-divers!

https://is.gd/e18gPl

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:56 PM (4dSnS)

186 Once we compel those Frogs to execute their northernmost surrender in Greenland, I urge PDJT to move immediately to rename Greenland's capital city to "Nuyuk Nuyuk Nuyuk". Larry, Moe and Curly would insist on it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 29, 2025 10:55 PM (xG4kz)

I believe it was formerly known as Godthaab.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 10:57 PM (8zz6B)

187 Footage of DC midair collision:

https://is.gd/Sxbk89

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 29, 2025 10:58 PM (W5ArC)

188 I don't have time for chores and the other patriarchal constructs associated with farm-life. I'm going to CrossFit with my black boyfriend.

Posted by: Vegan Laura Ingalls at January 29, 2025 10:58 PM (CHV3h)

189 Evans, who was said to have mental health problems, was also handed 15 rehabilitation sessions, 60 days alcohol abstinence monitoring and a two-year restraining order. She must pay £100 compensation and £199 costs.

The fuck kind of cruel amd unusual punishment is ^^^^this^^^^ shit?

Nope on out for Louisiana, not even close. Go watch Southern Comfort's crawfish boil scene. That's authentic Louisiana. And pert near where i roamed as a feral yute.

Posted by: BifBewalski at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (MsrgL)

190 much content tonight



tumescent
bordering on turgid

Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (AOsQT)

191
I watch all the Airline crash videos. They're addicting.
The one with the Fedex off-duty pilot attacking the Fedex flight crew is a good one.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (4dSnS)

192 Good news, maw! I'm going on a sex strike. Right after my abortion.

Posted by: Feminist Laura Ingalls at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (CHV3h)

193 Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 29, 2025 10:58 PM (W5ArC)

Yeah, I saw that. It looks like the helo just flew into the flight path of the United...dead center.

Posted by: Orson at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (dIske)

194 there is video of the plane/helo crash on X

does not look good

Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 11:00 PM (AOsQT)

195 >> I wonder how many of them that the latest two generations (Millennials and X?) have heard and used? My bet is not very many.

Millennial here. I’ve heard most of them and have said many of them.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at January 29, 2025 11:00 PM (l3YAf)

196 to "Nuyuk Nuyuk Nuyuk". Larry, Moe and Curly would insist on it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

There is still one house on Bath Avenue, Brooklyn that Moe and Curly built in 1929-30. They had left vaudeville because it was dying out. Shemp went to Hollywood and stayed. Moe and Curly soon followed and started their shorts careers. I think they originally built three houses, but two have been torn down as the neighborhood grew.

Posted by: The House That Moe Built at January 29, 2025 11:01 PM (G5+As)

197 > 183 My favorite English plural (albeit old): Kine. It is the only plural that has none of the letters of its singular, Cow.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:56 PM (ynpvh)

When I was a kid, the local sale barn where I grew up still listed how many kine were sold. I don't know if they still do.

IIRC, "kine" can be ones of any age or sex, without distinguishing between bull, cow, calf, heifer, steer...

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 29, 2025 11:01 PM (W5ArC)

198 There isn't a man alive in the eighties who doesn't immediately , when hearing Moving in Stereo, think of Phoebe Cates on the diving board
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (6v8aM)
====

"A man has got to know his limitations."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 11:01 PM (RIvkX)

199 Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:47 PM (Cp5Ma)

Thor's brother and s-i-l lived in Cerritos at the time. She had just had pretty extensive back surgery, and was laying out by the pool when she saw the plane coming down. She said thought it was going to crash right on top of her. She jumped up and ran and said she God must have helped her, because she could barely walk on her own at the time.

Plane went down about half a mile from their house.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at January 29, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V)

200 There is actually a beer brewery in Nuuk.

https://bryghuset.gl

First time I have ever seen the Greenland domain.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:02 PM (QB+5g)

201 Tammy

Yeah that would be terrifying. Yikes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:02 PM (Cp5Ma)

202 My first thought was intentional. I won't bother with a second thought until I get more information.

Posted by: ... at January 29, 2025 11:03 PM (lX8VI)

203 Vas Tutsi?
Posted by: weft cut-Batman

Everybody, do the Vas Tutsi!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 11:03 PM (WXNFJ)

204 Hey I made a subdued First!

Posted by: Ciampino - porco schifo at January 29, 2025 11:04 PM (KjLnc)

205 >NOVA Scanner Updates
@NOVAScanner
Audio between PAT25 and DCA tower asking if they have the CRJ in sight. Affirms and requests visual separation.

https://is.gd/v9QiTd

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 29, 2025 11:04 PM (2Z+bq)

206 I watch all the Airline crash videos. They're addicting.
The one with the Fedex off-duty pilot attacking the Fedex flight crew is a good one.
Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (4dSnS)
_____________________________

I enjoy the ones where some teenager is up for their first flight lesson and the instructor is incapacitated or something. You watch those kids grow up right before your eyes. I was listening to one where this 17 year old girl whose instructor had a heart attack, and the tower tells her "Don't worry, we'll get you down." And, the kid goes, "It's not getting down I'm worried about. I could do that now, but I'd be a spot on the tarmac. I want to get down properly." And in the background of the tower radio you hear some guy yell out. "Fuck Yeah."

Posted by: Orson at January 29, 2025 11:04 PM (dIske)

207 Interrobang: when you're tortured/interrogated, and it ends with a bang...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh)

208 A 40+ minute video with everything you'd want to know about the Tenerife collision accident. A big Charlie-Foxtrot.

https://youtu.be/2d9B9RN5quA

Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2025 11:05 PM (aBgBM)

209 157 Another air disaster at LAX decades ago.

Controller dealing with two simultaneous air space incursions. While he fixated on the Grumman the other incursion kept on flying. Plane was on VFR and the pilot apparently lost. By the time the controller finished with the Grumman, the other plane collided with a PSA DC-9 resulting in a complete loss of life at a place called Ceritos.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:47 PM (Cp5Ma)

I've been to the very spot where the DC-9 came down. No memorial at that location but the Cerritos Civic center has something.

Cerritos itself is a very nice suburb situated in south east L. A. county, northeast of Long Beach, along the 605 and 91 freeways.

A joke to lighten the mood:

Guy gets pulled over for speeding on the 91 Fwy. Cop tells him - you were doing 85 mph. Guy says 'but the speed limit here is 91'. Cop says 'that the route sign. You're on the 91 fwy'.

Guy says 'good thing you weren't around on the 605.....

I'll be here all week, folks. Tip your waitress....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:05 PM (QGaXH)

210 avgeekery says flight may have switched from runway 1 to 13 and was low.

Posted by: Some Rat at January 29, 2025 11:05 PM (+VovS)

211 How about cow and Kattle?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 29, 2025 11:06 PM (63Dwl)

212 >My first thought was intentional. I won't bother with a second thought until I get more information.
Posted by: ... at January 29, 2025 11:03 PM (lX8VI)

I hope Trump's cabinet and top staff are keeping their heads on a swivel...

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 29, 2025 11:06 PM (2Z+bq)

213 191 much content tonight



tumescent
bordering on turgid

Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 10:59 PM (AOsQT)

And it will be that way for more than 4 hours...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 11:06 PM (ynpvh)

214 171 167
You know what's a fun aviation disaster to study?

Tenerife, Canary Islands, 1977.

And it all happened on the ground.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 29, 2025 10:51 PM (4dSnS)

That was a nasty one. One of the worst in history. And technically, one of the planes was just getting off the ground when it hit the other plane in its way. Something like over 500 died.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 10:52 PM (ynpvh)

Two fully loaded 747s as I recall.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:08 PM (QGaXH)

215 IIRC, "kine" can be ones of any age or sex, without distinguishing between bull, cow, calf, heifer, steer...
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


We've raised cattle/kine for thousands of years, and never came up with a singular neuter term for one.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 11:08 PM (DgGvY)

216 Moe and Curly soon followed and started their shorts careers. I think they originally built three houses, but two have been torn down as the neighborhood grew.
Posted by: The House That Moe Built

Can you imagine the plumbing in Curly's house?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 29, 2025 11:09 PM (WXNFJ)

217 215 The worst.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at January 29, 2025 11:09 PM (GEVMH)

218 There is actually a beer brewery in Nuuk.

https://bryghuset.gl

First time I have ever seen the Greenland domain.
Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:02 PM (QB+5g)

Sounds like a good reason to visit Nuuk. Looking at the Danish text, I feel that I can almost read it. Some cognates to English are obvious, and some words quite obscure.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 11:09 PM (8zz6B)

219 Good news - Hegseth just tweeted, so at least he was not on board.

Also Sean Duffy just got sworn in as Transportation Secretary today. Tough way to start that gig.
Posted by: TRex

How bout Milley?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 29, 2025 11:10 PM (/lPRQ)

220 181 By the time the controller finished with the Grumman, the other plane collided with a PSA DC-9 resulting in a complete loss of life at a place called Ceritos.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Cerritos, which is like 15-20 min away by air from LAX.
Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:55 PM (mlg/3)

It's maybe 20 miles as the crow flies....so maybe 10 minutes at approach speed, 2 hours at evening rush hour.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:10 PM (QGaXH)

221 I'm not current on Airliners but even a CRJ-700 would be equipped with TCAS II Traffic Collision Avoidance System II
The system runs in different modes. Ground, terminal and En-route. They would have been in Terminal mode, or close-in mode and the system detects and displays airborne threats from 5 mi or less. indicates direction, altitude, trend (climbing/decending)
and speed. The initial warning is aural, ie: "traffic, 3 O'clock low, less than one mile followed by a aural prompt, "pull up" "turn left" etc for avoidance. However, if for some reason the military aircraft had its ADS-B turned off, the CRJ wouldn't "see" it. (Automatic Dependent Surveillance Broadcast) Shows other aircraft and controllers your position and basic flight info.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 29, 2025 11:11 PM (y1Mvi)

222 So far I've logged five confirmed Greenland ham radio contacts, and one of them, XP3A, was in Nuuk. That was 2020.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at January 29, 2025 11:12 PM (GEVMH)

223 There is actually a beer brewery in Nuuk.
https://bryghuset.gl
First time I have ever seen the Greenland domain.
Posted by: pawn


It's nu Niue domain, that's for sure.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 11:12 PM (DgGvY)

224 184 Buddy of mine was a pilot. Died in a crash. We used to fly together all the time. He told me that if you did what the ATCs said was OK you were donna die. He was cleared to land saw another plane just sitting their on his runway when he was on final. Luckily it was daytime.
Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 10:56 PM (QB+5g)

There was an evening crash at LAX that happened that way back in the mid-80's.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:13 PM (QGaXH)

225 So again, I must ask what the hell was the helicopter doing in air space it had no business in.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 10:26 PM (Cp5Ma)

Military flights frequently land at civilian airports. A lot of people are rushing to blame the helicopter, but it's quite possible that ATC screwed up.

Posted by: Sjg at January 29, 2025 11:13 PM (aqZN1)

226 We've raised cattle/kine for thousands of years, and never came up with a singular neuter term for one.
Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 11:08 PM (DgGvY)

Bovine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 11:13 PM (8zz6B)

227 Can you imagine the plumbing in Curly's house?
Posted by: Tonypete

The Depression started in earnest as they were finishing up those houses. Had a hard time selling them. Don't think they lost their shirts, but blessedly minor film stardom beckoned. I think they knew more about construction than their films would indicate, I hope!

Posted by: The House That Moe Built. at January 29, 2025 11:13 PM (G5+As)

228 Many will remember the Air Florida crash into the Potomac January 13, 1982

there was a DC Metro subway accident the same day that killed 3

Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 11:14 PM (AOsQT)

229 Sad news of loss of life due to mid air collision. The video shown does not seem to fit the "expert" analysis being offered even on Fox. To me it looks like the helicopter rose into the plane. My bet it is an alphabet soup DIE mad at TArump and did a suicide mission. The other two service members I bet had "accidental" GSW to the head .

Posted by: MacRadDoc at January 29, 2025 11:15 PM (+OjEW)

230 Two fully loaded 747s as I recall.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:08 PM (QGaXH)

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One 747 was cleared for takeoff. Another 747 crossed onto the runway without a clearance putting it right in the path of the 747 on its takeoff roll.

The pilots yanked the 747 off the ground before V1 and managed to get it airborne. Unfortunately, not soon enough. Their undercarriage tore through the fuselage of the plane on the ground, causing the airborne plane to go out of control and crash. The 747 on the ground was completely destroyed as well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (dDmld)

231 The helicopter was from the National Park Service from what I saw.

My bet was they had their ADS-B transponder off. Not sure if well ever find out. Collision was brutal and over water.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (QB+5g)

232 Posted by: Sjg at January 29, 2025 11:13 PM (aqZN1)

She's a Zoomie, she knows all that. 😉

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (Vvh2V)

233 Britain's first ever cyber-farting case

in America, we fart freely, like Benjamin Franklin said...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (ynpvh)

234 Incorrect. No one from Washington says, "Wersh". That is a dead giveaway that somebody is from somewhere else.

Posted by: Igotnothing at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (LTRHw)

235 Quitting time, back when I get home

Posted by: Skip at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (w5cj/)

236 So far I've logged five confirmed Greenland ham radio contacts, and one of them, XP3A, was in Nuuk. That was 2020.
Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket


There's only 56000 people in Greenland. You might have spoken to every ham radio operator there.

Posted by: mikeski at January 29, 2025 11:17 PM (DgGvY)

237 Lots of planes on the ground at Reagan and Dulles. Only transponders squawking are N registrations

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:17 PM (Cp5Ma)

238 Silent but deadly.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 29, 2025 11:17 PM (E0r6f)

239 I suppose MIL aircraft don't broadcast ADS-B. Don't know if they have CVR and FDR.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at January 29, 2025 11:17 PM (GEVMH)

240 Rob Green@RobGreen1010 10h ⚖️
Report to DoD and FBI Officials.

Gen Mark Milley may have received a pardon, but his subordinate and legal counsel, Admiral Christopher French did not.

This morning at 1134, I submitted, to both the FBI and DoD leadership, evidence of crimes committed by Admiral Chris French and a coverup by Admiral Darse Crandall. I was provided this information by a whistleblower. Under military regulations I have a duty to report this information and have fulfilled that duty.

Since the initial contact by the whistleblower, a small group of Constitution-defending officers and I vetted what was provided and confirmed the whistleblower’s story through other whistleblowers and with physical evidence.
---
_It goes on that this Flag Officer Jag corruption goes back to 09 and the, 7th Fleet, Fat Leonard corruption case and more. I have no corroborating info but this guy says it gives officials cause to open every case these jags were involved in and to pull stars.

https://tinyurl.com/3djx3rh2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 29, 2025 11:18 PM (Wnaut)

241 in America, we fart freely, like Benjamin Franklin said...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (ynpvh)

---------

You know who else was known for farting freely?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 11:19 PM (dDmld)

242 Sounds like the plane was on final and came down on top of the heli. Also sounds like ATC had made the airliner
aware of the chopper in the vicinity. Somebody fckd up somewhere and we'll find out. Tragic thing. If you've ever looked at the plates in ATC it's amazing stuff doesn't happen more and it's a testament to the job they do. I actually shadowed a guy at ARTC for a day and said, nah bro. Prayers to all involved.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:19 PM (4p0Xq)

243 231 Two fully loaded 747s as I recall.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:08 PM (QGaXH)

-------

One 747 was cleared for takeoff. Another 747 crossed onto the runway without a clearance putting it right in the path of the 747 on its takeoff roll.

The pilots yanked the 747 off the ground before V1 and managed to get it airborne. Unfortunately, not soon enough. Their undercarriage tore through the fuselage of the plane on the ground, causing the airborne plane to go out of control and crash. The 747 on the ground was completely destroyed as well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 11:16 PM (dDmld)


There were some survivors, including the pilot of the plane on its takeoff roll.

Posted by: Gref at January 29, 2025 11:20 PM (aBgBM)

244 Skip working late

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 29, 2025 11:20 PM (RIvkX)

245 Forgot to add. I don't think a military chopper would have TCAS. I could be wrong. If it didn't it would explain more about why they collided.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:20 PM (4p0Xq)

246 229- there was a DC Metro subway accident the same day that killed 3
Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 11:14 PM

And there was the terrible snowstorm! I was living out in Fairfax and was able to take the Metro to my car, which was parked at the Clarendon station. But then I had to dig my car out of the snow and get from there all the way out to Fairfax. It was such an awful night!

Posted by: Moonbeam at January 29, 2025 11:21 PM (rbKZ6)

247 Can't remember, did Ron Brown's T-43 have a CVR and FDR. Memory wants to say no.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:21 PM (Cp5Ma)

248 Gorgeous car. I admire people who have cars like that and drive them. Too many end up garage queens.

Posted by: Pete Bog at January 29, 2025 11:21 PM (kq/Qu)

249 230 Sad news of loss of life due to mid air collision. The video shown does not seem to fit the "expert" analysis being offered even on Fox. To me it looks like the helicopter rose into the plane. My bet it is an alphabet soup DIE mad at TArump and did a suicide mission. The other two service members I bet had "accidental" GSW to the head .
Posted by: MacRadDoc at January 29, 2025 11:15 PM (+OjEW)

Someone up-thread posted that the helicopter may have flown up and into the path of the airliner. Can't tell from the videos if the helo was behind or in front of the airliner but if flew into path that makes sense...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:22 PM (QGaXH)

250 ATC audio of the crash

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/
1884812123366113553

Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 11:22 PM (AOsQT)

251 The only survivors from Tenerife came from the Pan Am plane. The only KLM survivor did not reboard and stayed with her boyfriend in the terminal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:23 PM (Cp5Ma)

252 237 Someday I'll hear that North Korean callsign, and I'll blow the house fuses trying to work him. I think their ham population is currently zero.

I talked about HAARP the other day, I tried for two days this week to hear them, but failed. Here's a guy who heard them real good:
https://tinyurl.com/yc6pmvt7

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at January 29, 2025 11:23 PM (GEVMH)

253 You know who else was known for farting freely?
Posted by: Cicero

Ja, and he was a terrific dancer!

Posted by: Franz Liebkind at January 29, 2025 11:23 PM (G5+As)

254 You know who else was known for farting freely?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 11:19 PM (dDmld)


Don't eat the pea soup.

Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2025 11:24 PM (gKDq2)

255 Don't eat the pea soup.
Posted by: RickZ

Beano, FTW!

Posted by: Methane Mike at January 29, 2025 11:27 PM (G5+As)

256 Someone up-thread posted that the helicopter may have flown up and into the path of the airliner. Can't tell from the videos if the helo was behind or in front of the airliner but if flew into path that makes sense...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:22 PM (QGaXH)

I wonder if a sudden wind shear could have caused one or both aircraft to suddenly change altitude, changing a close approach into a direct hit?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 11:28 PM (8zz6B)

257 That snowstorm the day of the Air Florida crash was incredible. I got home after driving for two hours on I-70 following in the tracks from some semi I never saw. I didn't even see another vehicle either the whole time. I had the shakes from being so focused.

Got home to find the roommate watching people pulling passengers out of the frozen Potomac.

Howard Stern got suspended the next day for calling up Air Florida on the air and asking how much was the fare from Washington National to the 14th St. bridge.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:29 PM (QB+5g)

258 Someone up-thread posted that the helicopter may have flown up and into the path of the airliner. Can't tell from the videos if the helo was behind or in front of the airliner but if flew into path that makes sense... Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:22 PM (QGaXH)

Fox is now saying that the helo was told to pass behind the jet by ATC.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2025 11:29 PM (r5tfK)

259 I suppose MIL aircraft don't broadcast ADS-B. Don't know if they have CVR and FDR.
Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at January 29, 2025 11:17 PM (GEVMH)

I don't know the technical side of things, but it's definitely possible to get TCAS warnings from military aircraft. There was a minor story a few months back of a pilot piping up after getting a TCAS warning while on final because some fighter pilots were showboating.

Posted by: Sjg at January 29, 2025 11:30 PM (aqZN1)

260 Gulfport probably has, close to, if not the least expensive gasoline in the US.

Posted by: rdohd at January 29, 2025 11:30 PM (lz2XK)

261 A comment on DM got my attention. Commenter says he's a commercial pilot and he thinks the helicopter hit the plane intentionally.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 29, 2025 11:30 PM (paSBy)

262 Last transmission from ATC was to the chopper asking if it had the CRJ in sight.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:32 PM (4p0Xq)

263 @pawn, I vaguely knew Lenny Skutnik. "Know" is too strong a word, I knew who he was to say hi back before he became a hero. (I interned in the summer of 1981 at the CBO, which was small in those days.)

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2025 11:32 PM (r5tfK)

264 262 A comment on DM got my attention. Commenter says he's a commercial pilot and he thinks the helicopter hit the plane intentionally.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 29, 2025 11:30 PM (paSBy)

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Possible case of workplace violence then?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 29, 2025 11:33 PM (dDmld)

265 not vouching for any of this

@TomFitton @nbcwashington
-- Plane split in two in seven feet of water. Helicopter upside down, sort of "bobbing up and down" in water. Call went out to any vessels in the area to assist in search and rescue.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 11:33 PM (mlg/3)

266 the video making the rounds on X shows the helo seemed to be in level flight

Posted by: Don Black at January 29, 2025 11:33 PM (AOsQT)

267 We've raised cattle/kine for thousands of years, and never came up with a singular neuter term for one.
Posted by: mikeski

I think it was Evangeline that we had to read in junior high. Longfellow complimented Evangeline by saying she had the sweet breath of kine. I didn't know what kine were so I looked it up. She had cow breath.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 29, 2025 11:33 PM (L/fGl)

268 Gutfeld preempted tonight I guess....

But I DVR Larry everyday so not a total loss....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (QGaXH)

269 Shouldn't it be Gulf-of-America-Port now?

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (mlg/3)

270 Possible case of workplace violence then?
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I have no idea. I hope it's not true.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (paSBy)

271 Gulfport probably has, close to, if not the least expensive gasoline in the US. Posted by: rdohd at January 29, 2025 11:30 PM (lz2XK)

Chevron Pascagoula refinery right up the road.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (r5tfK)

272 Sounds like a good reason to visit Nuuk. Looking at the Danish text, I feel that I can almost read it. Some cognates to English are obvious, and some words quite obscure.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 29, 2025 11:09 PM (8zz6B)


a friend's grandad was Danish who came over in the 30's. He said the first English book he read was Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, it was a good half way from Danish to English

Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (D7oie)

273 Someone up-thread posted that the helicopter may have flown up and into the path of the airliner.
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Is that even feasible?

A jet which is landing is still going, what, 200mph, and the helicopter is coming in at an angle to that path. That seems like it would be hard to eyeball, particularly at night.

Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (Dnobf)

274 Helicopters are hard to see at night. Airliners are not. Even at 3 miles at night they are easy to see. Having a lit up airliner with landing lights on crossing in front of you and not see it is kinda sketch.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 29, 2025 11:35 PM (y1Mvi)

275 Longfellow complimented Evangeline by saying she had the sweet breath of kine.

One of my dad's friends once remarked that you had to be quite a man to satisfy a cow. Then again, he was a Long fellow.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2025 11:36 PM (r5tfK)

276 A jet which is landing is still going, what, 200mph, and the helicopter is coming in at an angle to that path. That seems like it would be hard to eyeball, particularly at night.
Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM

Distance and speed are hard to take in accurately at night. FOX said the last transmission to the chopper asked do you have the CRJ in sight.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:36 PM (4p0Xq)

277 @interesting_aIl
Bullet proof Chinese face mask vs different caliber bullets

https://tinyurl.com/yeyw3er5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 29, 2025 11:37 PM (Wnaut)

278 Having a lit up airliner with landing lights on crossing in front of you and not see it is kinda sketch.
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That's what the commenter on DM was saying. Also, he said the helicopter's flight path in relation to the plane made no sense.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 29, 2025 11:37 PM (paSBy)

279 The upthread X/Twitter of the ATC audio. There was a tag showing the CRJ-700 at 350ft and 113knots with the UH-60 a good distance to the right of the passenger jet.

Hard to imagine how the helicopter could miss the anti-collision lights.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:37 PM (Cp5Ma)

280 Trump fires Government Employees and now planes collide over DC.

This is Trump's fault for firing worthless Government employees that work from home !!!!!!!

Posted by: CNN Breaking News at January 29, 2025 11:37 PM (FDlb9)

281 Beano, FTW!
Posted by: Methane Mike at January 29, 2025 11:27 PM (G5+As)


I think that was 'Pervitin for the win'. Worked for a while, too, until that whole Russia fiasco. Two years fighting lighting wars on meth will do that to you. Why was the Eastern Front so brutal? The Germans were a twitchy bunch of meth heads with heavy weapons.

Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2025 11:37 PM (gKDq2)

282 The airliner was on short final. last ping was 139kts.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 29, 2025 11:38 PM (y1Mvi)

283 "Commenter says he's a commercial pilot and he thinks the helicopter hit the plane intentionally."

I think that is just about impossible to do in reality. Anyone that thinks that needs to seriously think about all the variables involved. Damn near impossible I would think.

Plus it was at night when situational awareness is really limited. You can't get an accurate vector from a flashing light when you are moving.

Only way that would be feasible was for you to be moving much faster that the target and overtake it.

Plus there were three people onboard the chopper.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:38 PM (QB+5g)

284 267 There are currently at least two cam angles being broadcast.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at January 29, 2025 11:38 PM (GEVMH)

285 Second to last ping was 139 kts.

Posted by: DBCooper at January 29, 2025 11:39 PM (y1Mvi)

286 Yea, I'm going with horrible accident, not some vast conspiracy. I've mentioned before but there is A LOT of air traffic in the DC Metro region. Three international airports, multiple military installations, hospitals, various LEOs, private aircraft, secret squirrels, corporations, etc. All the ATCs around here to a damn fine job and the fact that collisions don't happen every day is a testament to that. This was just a terrible accident.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 29, 2025 11:42 PM (sAmhv)

287 Here in Houston a couple of months ago a helicopter ran into a radio tower at night. Another pilot said that tower was notorious for its lights blending into the downtown skyline. I wonder if something similar could have happened here -- the helicopter pilot lost the lights of the jet because they blended into background.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2025 11:43 PM (r5tfK)

288 Trump fires Government Employees and now planes collide over DC.

Yeah, this is all over X. “Trump fired the head of TSA, this is his fault.” Bunch of ghouls, and not very smart ones.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 29, 2025 11:43 PM (EXyHK)

289 Audio from airport tower sheds light on moments after crash

https://tinyurl.com/vc3kxx46

Posted by: Ciampino - ATC may be in trouble at January 29, 2025 11:44 PM (KjLnc)

290 The singular neuter for kine is steer.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at January 29, 2025 11:45 PM (jkhGM)

291 CNN - no survivors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:47 PM (Cp5Ma)

292 G’Night, All..

Posted by: Bulg at January 29, 2025 11:48 PM (77rzZ)

293 Evidently it was an Army helicopter from Fort Belvoir with three crew aboard.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 29, 2025 11:51 PM (dg+HA)

294 UH-60 according to media was from Belvoir and on a training flight.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 29, 2025 11:51 PM (Cp5Ma)

295 Lord have mercy. Reports that divers have found passengers still strapped into their seats.

Posted by: Bert G at January 29, 2025 11:51 PM (VARTN)

296 At 139 kts the jet was moving it's entire length in less than half a second.

Try and hit that at night. It would take multiple attempts to be in the pre collision airspace with all the needed flight vectors.

It was an accident.

Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:52 PM (QB+5g)

297

CNN says the helicopter was on a training flight.

Posted by: four seasons at January 29, 2025 11:52 PM (3ek7K)

298
Clearly this accident is the fault of the Nearest Available Republican.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2025 11:52 PM (dxSpM)

299
CNN says the helicopter was on a training flight.
Posted by: four seasons at January 29, 2025 11:52 PM (3ek7K)

________

Looks like a "fail".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 29, 2025 11:53 PM (dxSpM)

300 Last transmission is telling if true. Tower @ Reagan asked the chopper asked if it had the CRJ in sight. The CRJ was on short final @ 400 feet. Military aircraft I don't believe have TCAS. (Traffic Collision Avoidance System). I don't think the jet had any idea that thing was as close to them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:53 PM (4p0Xq)

301 Mila Joy@MilaLovesJoe

Do you know that there is a “town” that was created in Texas to house illegals?

Colony Ridge.

There's 50,000 living there.

The head of the congressional cartels task force is @DanCrenshawTX.

He lives in Texas & is a Republican.

Yet he has NEVER mentioned Colony Ridge.

Why is that?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 29, 2025 11:53 PM (Wnaut)

302

Braenyard,

I read about Colony Ridge months ago. Apparently it's a no go area for we the citizens.

Posted by: four seasons at January 29, 2025 11:55 PM (3ek7K)

303 At 139 kts the jet was moving it's entire length in less than half a second.

Try and hit that at night. It would take multiple attempts to be in the pre collision airspace with all the needed flight vectors.

It was an accident.
Posted by: pawn at January 29, 2025 11:52 PM

Agreed. It was a fuck up of epic proportions. Accident happen. It's a testament to aviation world that there's not more. I have a better chance of dying in a car accisdent than an airplane crash.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:55 PM (4p0Xq)

304 Why is that?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 29, 2025 11:53 PM (Wnaut)


Lot of power and influence comes from riding herd on that sort of money.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 29, 2025 11:55 PM (D7oie)

305 Woke up to read the terrible news.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 29, 2025 11:56 PM (bKqAu)

306 This made the room a bit dusty for me.
Man waiting at airport tells local news station WUSA his wife was onboard the doomed plane & texted him before the crash.

https://tinyurl.com/2fcu663c

Posted by: Ciampino - I visualised that and it wasn't good at January 29, 2025 11:56 PM (KjLnc)

307 Any chance the UH60 crew was flying under night vision goggles?

Posted by: Common Tater at January 29, 2025 11:57 PM (+4cXA)

308 I do have say, and not to be grim and no disrespect. But it was good that both craft landed in the Potomac than had it happened over highly populated area. This is the first airliner crash in like a decade.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:58 PM (4p0Xq)

309 I do have say, and not to be grim and no disrespect. But it was good that both craft landed in the Potomac than had it happened over highly populated area. This is the first airliner crash in like a decade.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 29, 2025 11:58 PM (4p0Xq)


Of course it's Trump's fault. He's now the president after all.

Posted by: RickZ at January 29, 2025 11:59 PM (gKDq2)

310 I just read that the Potomac is currently 37 degrees, giving a person 15-20 minutes in the water before they get hypothermia. That's a tough job in the dark for the first responders.

On a lighter note, that Rammstein video is incredible. It's amazing the work that goes into putting on a show of that magnitude.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at January 29, 2025 11:59 PM (lg881)

311 Keep trying to dig out of these rabbit holes but everytime I click there's another one.

TheRedPilledGirl @RedPilledGirly Replying to SarahisCensored

These are the campaign donations that were given to Greg Abbott from the developer of Colony ridge. This is why Abbott looks the other way and allowed it to grow to this size.

https://tinyurl.com/275vr9hb

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2025 12:00 AM (Wnaut)

312 301
I don't know if TCAS works once the plane is in landing mode, just like the Terrain Warning which is disabled in certain configurations.
The jet is in 2 pieces with bodies still strapped in their seats.

Posted by: Ciampino - everything probably happened too fast at January 30, 2025 12:02 AM (KjLnc)

313 274 Someone up-thread posted that the helicopter may have flown up and into the path of the airliner.
-
Is that even feasible?

A jet which is landing is still going, what, 200mph, and the helicopter is coming in at an angle to that path. That seems like it would be hard to eyeball, particularly at night.
Posted by: Methos at January 29, 2025 11:34 PM (Dnobf)

"have flown up and into the path"

Unintentionally.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 30, 2025 12:02 AM (QGaXH)

314 The UH-60 flight path before collision had it flying along the east bank of the Potomac traveling south. And then just before reaching Runway 33 at Reagan they jag over the water.

CBS News - 18 bodies pulled from the water along with three debris fields.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:03 AM (Cp5Ma)

315

Braenyard,

Yep, in a nutshell. I could never understand how it was allowed to be there.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 12:04 AM (3ek7K)

316 276 Longfellow complimented Evangeline by saying she had the sweet breath of kine.

One of my dad's friends once remarked that you had to be quite a man to satisfy a cow. Then again, he was a Long fellow.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 29, 2025 11:36 PM (r5tfK)

Joke Punchline: Hi, I'm Tonto Wachowski.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 30, 2025 12:04 AM (ynpvh)

317 There is going to be a press conference in 25 minutes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:05 AM (Cp5Ma)

318 I don't know if TCAS works once the plane is in landing mode, just like the Terrain Warning which is disabled in certain configurations.
The jet is in 2 pieces with bodies still strapped in their seats.
Posted by: Ciampino - everything probably happened too fast at January 30, 2025 12:02 AM

Yes they still work.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 30, 2025 12:06 AM (4p0Xq)

319 The jet is in 2 pieces with bodies still strapped in their seats.
Posted by: Ciampino - everything probably happened too fast at January 30, 2025 12:02 AM (KjLnc)


Leads one to think the passengers were unconscious before the plane hit the water, or were knocked out by the impact. One would expect conscious passengers to undo their seat belts and try to exit the aircraft.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 12:06 AM (8zz6B)

320 Who are these vile disgusting retards who are now trying to say Trump somehow affected the controllers and thus caused the crash.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:07 AM (Cp5Ma)

321 I was stationed in Aschaffenburg. Their dialect was called Ascheberger, but other Germans called it Aschebescher, which means ash tray.

Or so I was told when I lived there (shrugs). Still, my German was never great, but it definitely had a different sound than other parts of Germany. Even other parts of Bavaria.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Packing to leave CO at January 29, 2025 10:50 PM (Ad8y9)



I was in A'Burg myself. 3ID, '85-'88.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 30, 2025 12:07 AM (YxMyw)

322
Do you know that there is a “town” that was created in Texas to house illegals?

Colony Ridge.

There's 50,000 living there.


Glenn Beck has mentioned it on his show several times.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 12:08 AM (63Dwl)

323 They are still working on getting passengers off the planes at Reagan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:08 AM (Cp5Ma)

324 They are calling it a “training mission” for the Black Hawk. That is not to say the pilots were green or inexperienced; they are virtually all “training missions”.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 12:10 AM (+4cXA)

325 Who are these vile disgusting retards who are now trying to say Trump somehow affected the controllers and thus caused the crash.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:07 AM (Cp5Ma)



Communist animals as Jessie Kelly would say. AKA Democrats.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 30, 2025 12:10 AM (YxMyw)

326 Mary Talley Bowden MD@MdBreathe

Confrontation between Mary Talley Bowden M.D. and CostCo pharmacist
https://tinyurl.com/32ppz2d2

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2025 12:12 AM (Wnaut)

327 TheRedPilledGirl@RedPilledGirly 11m
Conspiracy Update #2
- CIA- Helicopter left Fort Belvoir, home of the CIA, but as of now they say it was training.
- Flying dark - Video seems to show helicopter was indeed flying dark, part of training?
- VIP flight- Yes it was a PAC Helicopter that transports VIP’s but they’re saying no VIP’s on board at the time. Military training exercise.
- Transponder - Conflicting reports, some say on, some say off. But it must of been on if flight trackers are being posted.
-Flight pattern- Conflicting reports on if it was sus or not.
Conclusion= Still feels Sus but hopefully just an accident. Information is changing quickly. It’s my job to question everything.
Tragic, prayers for the families, hope more people are rescued.
#planecrash #ConspiracyTheories

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 30, 2025 12:13 AM (Wnaut)

328 Agenda Free on YouTube is showing video of rescue boats around what looks to be part of the fuselage that is above water.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:15 AM (Cp5Ma)

329 >>> 289 Trump fires Government Employees and now planes collide over DC.

Yeah, this is all over X. “Trump fired the head of TSA, this is his fault.” Bunch of ghouls, and not very smart ones.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 29, 2025 11:43 PM (EXyHK)

They do Transportation Safety, it's right there in the name!!! Same as Antifa, they're anti-fascist!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 12:20 AM (Vqx30)

330 Isn't ATC responsible for everything that happens in their airspace?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 30, 2025 12:20 AM (YxMyw)

331 home

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2025 12:21 AM (fwDg9)

332 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 46m
Statement released from the American Airlines:

"American Eagle Flight 5342 en route from Wichita, Kansas (ICT), to Washington, D.C. (DCA) was involved in an accident at DCA. The flight was operated by PSA Airlines with a CRJ-700.

There were 60 passengers and four crew members on board the aircraft.

Our concern is for the passengers and crew on board the aircraft. We are in contact with authorities and assisting with emergency response efforts.

If you believe you may have loved ones on board Flight 5342, call American Airlines toll-free at 800-679-8215. Those calling from outside the U.S. can visit news.aa.com for additional phone numbers. Family members in Canada, Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands can call 800-679-8215 directly."

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:22 AM (5LoD7)

333 " Who are these vile disgusting retards who are now trying to say Trump somehow affected the controllers and thus caused the crash."

Get ready because this is going to be the competing narrative for the next four years. It worked the last time.

I doubt if even total social ostracization will work to tone this down. People now are almost automatic now in embracing any BS that supports their need to be in outrage mode. They are addicted to the TV and the media is their supplier.

Looking at the NJ drone "panic" that had an obvious explanation that no one wanted to hear. They just wanted OUTRAGE!

Posted by: pawn at January 30, 2025 12:22 AM (QB+5g)

334 ...I doubt if even total social ostracization will work to tone this down...


The only appropriate - and necessary - response to these communist animals is "Fuck You! War!"

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 30, 2025 12:25 AM (YxMyw)

335 Trump has posted to Truth Social.

First post he is asking the same questions we have been asking. In his style.

Second post - "What a terrible night this has been. God bless you all."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:26 AM (Cp5Ma)

336 There's going to be an enormous amount of data, logs, transcripts, interviews, and whatnot to assign blame in a few weeks. No reason to try and rush to form an opinion with none of that.

Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:27 AM (aqZN1)

337 >>> 323
Do you know that there is a “town” that was created in Texas to house illegals?

Colony Ridge.

There's 50,000 living there.
==
Glenn Beck has mentioned it on his show several times.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 12:08 AM (63Dwl)

I wonder if anyone has mentioned this to Tom Homam or Kristi Noem?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 12:27 AM (Vqx30)

338 Three minutes until the press conference is supposed to start.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:28 AM (Cp5Ma)

339 BNO News Live @BNODesk 11m
The press conference has been delayed until 12:30 a.m. ET

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:28 AM (5LoD7)

340 >Anyone that thinks that needs to seriously think about all the variables involved. Damn near impossible I would think.

Damn near impossible to carry out intentionally but no problem with it completely randomly happening? That doesn't really add up to me.

I'm not necessarily convinced it was intentional, but I've seen nothing to make me think otherwise either. And there are a lot of extenuating circumstances that give me pause. We did just live through a whole lotta crazy conspiracy theories that actually turned out to be conspiracy fact.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 30, 2025 12:28 AM (2Z+bq)

341 BNO News Live @BNODesk 25m
Rescue workers have located multiple passengers underwater, still sitting in their seats - scanner

BNO News Live @BNODesk 1m
Police official confirms no survivors have been found so far from the D.C. plane crash - CBS

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:28 AM (5LoD7)

342 Leads one to think the passengers were unconscious before the plane hit the water, or were knocked out by the impact. One would expect conscious passengers to undo their seat belts and try to exit the aircraft.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 12:06 AM (8zz6B)

Almost certainly knocked out by the impact - imagine passengers in a car that crashes at 100+ MPH. Nobody comes out of that in good shape.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 30, 2025 12:29 AM (7MHHr)

343 I have reservations about making reservations to visit the reservations.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:30 AM (IOGah)

344 God Bless those poor people and their families.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 30, 2025 12:31 AM (MZsCp)

345 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 10m
The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing, why didn’t the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn’t the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane. This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 8m
What a terrible night this has been. God bless you all!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:31 AM (5LoD7)

346 >There's going to be an enormous amount of data, logs, transcripts, interviews, and whatnot to assign blame in a few weeks. No reason to try and rush to form an opinion with none of that.
Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:27 AM (aqZN1)

True, the government never hides things and tries to shape narratives as time goes on. Just think about all of the good information we got on Trump shooter Crooks now they've had time to carefully research and compile all of the information on that curious case for the good citizens of America.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 30, 2025 12:33 AM (2Z+bq)

347 R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 46m
🚨#BREAKING: The Joint Task Force National Capitol Region says the BlackHawk was taking part in a training flight.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:33 AM (5LoD7)

348 I have reservations about making reservations to visit the reservations.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:30 AM (IOGah)

But sentences like this, and those in the links up top almost never occur in normal usage by native English speakers, because we have such a great wealth of synonyms for practically every commonly used noun and verb. If it came up in conversation, you and I would most likely say, "I have doubts about booking a trip to visit the reservations."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 12:36 AM (8zz6B)

349 Shower and in bed
Gave a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at January 30, 2025 12:37 AM (fwDg9)

350 Yea, I'm going with horrible accident, not some vast conspiracy.

The problem with living in this country is that it's gone quasi-Soviet. You don't know what the truth is, just that official sources aren't truthful.

I assume it's a fuck up, nothing more. But will I really ever know? Probably not. No one wants me to know anything anymore.

Posted by: kulak wrecker at January 30, 2025 12:38 AM (XT8Jk)

351 Night, Skip.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 12:38 AM (8zz6B)

352 Good Night Skip

I'm out too.

Good night everyone....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 30, 2025 12:39 AM (QGaXH)

353 Damn near impossible to carry out intentionally but no problem with it completely randomly happening? That doesn't really add up to me.
-
Consider that if you're trying to do it deliberately, you only get one shot before someone notices what you're doing. We roll the dice on an accident anytime two aircraft are within a mile or two of each other, which must happen thousands of times a day near airports.

Also, there's audio of communication between the tower and the helicopter pilot, and nothing seems out of order (i.e. no one was shouting 'aloha snackbar' and ATC isn't exactly frantic).

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 12:39 AM (Dnobf)

354 when Trump first ran in 2016 I commented here that I thought he was basically a blog commenter running for President. And I didn't mean it as a negative though I also said he probably would eventually get banned on most blogs.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:39 AM (IOGah)

355 Damn near impossible to carry out intentionally but no problem with it completely randomly happening? That doesn't really add up to me.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 30, 2025 12:28 AM (2Z+bq)

When you realize how many near misses happen, yes it makes perfect sense that one of those ends up not missing.

Conspiracy theories rot otherwise healthy brain cells.

Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:39 AM (aqZN1)

356 🚨#BREAKING: The Joint Task Force National Capitol Region says the BlackHawk was taking part in a training flight.
Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:33 AM (5LoD7)

Isn't nearly every flight that doesn't involve contact with the enemy a training flight? Wouldn't do to admit they were just up there, stooging around on the taxpayers' dime, just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 12:41 AM (8zz6B)

357 Conspiracy theories rot otherwise healthy brain cells.
Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:39 AM (aqZN1)

Calling any theory a "conspiracy theory" before anything is really known is a sign of not too many healthy ones.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:42 AM (lX8VI)

358 328 TheRedPilledGirl@RedPilledGirly 11m
Conspiracy Update #2
- CIA- Helicopter left Fort Belvoir, home of the CIA, but as of now they say it was training.
- Flying dark - Video seems to show helicopter was indeed flying dark, part of training?
- VIP flight- Yes it was a PAC Helicopter that transports VIP’s but they’re saying no VIP’s on board at the time. Military training exercise.
- Transponder - Conflicting reports, some say on, some say off. But it must of been on if flight trackers are being posted.
-Flight pattern- Conflicting reports on if it was sus or not.
Conclusion= Still feels Sus but hopefully just an accident. Information is changing quickly. It’s my job to question everything.
Tragic, prayers for the families, hope more people are rescued.
#planecrash #ConspiracyTheories
Posted by: Braenyard
.........................................
Can we just not tip toe through the fetid tulips of conspiracy theories for 24-48 hours? This is retarded. Also, the CIA is not based at Ft Belvoir. It's up in Langley. The fucking Internet was a mistake.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 12:42 AM (sAmhv)

359 Need a rotorhead's opinion but NVG's in such a bright area as an airport sounds like a bad idea.

Reagan is shut down until 5am Eastern.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:43 AM (Cp5Ma)

360 Gotta believe it's an accident, unless/until there is compelling evidence to the contrary

Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 12:43 AM (AOsQT)

361 If this was just an accident the helo pilot must have been lost. Who flies across an active runway?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:43 AM (IOGah)

362 Also, there's audio of communication between the tower and the helicopter pilot, and nothing seems out of order (i.e. no one was shouting 'aloha snackbar' and ATC isn't exactly frantic).
Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 12:39 AM (Dnobf)


Perhaps the helo pilot thought he was taking evasive action, and did exactly the wrong thing in an instant of panic?

Flight data recorders for both aircraft may have a tale to tell.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 12:44 AM (8zz6B)

363 >but no problem with it completely randomly happening? That doesn't really add up to me.
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shit happens

Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 12:45 AM (AOsQT)

364 I should have maybe said not enough healthy ones, I will retract, I'm just tired of having to assume the most benign things in the face of an ever not remotely benign world.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:45 AM (lX8VI)

365 Sebastian

The UH-60 was traveling south pretty much following the east shore of the Potomac River.

But just after flying past the USSS HQ at JFB Andrews the flight path zings out towards the center of the river just as this passenger jet is on final approach.

It is just weird.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:45 AM (Cp5Ma)

366 Yeah to the layman a “training flight” has specific connotations, none of them good.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 12:46 AM (+4cXA)

367 shit happens
Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 12:45 AM (AOsQT)

I thought that for about four minutes on 9/11.

I'm not directly comparing the two. Okay maybe I am.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:46 AM (lX8VI)

368 >>> FBI Says No Indication of Terrorism in DC Plane-Helicopter Collision Near Reagan Airport

Remember this -
IF it is not, then this is the first time the declaration was true.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 12:46 AM (/lPRQ)

369 No FDR on military acft

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 12:47 AM (+4cXA)

370 Calling any theory a "conspiracy theory" before anything is really known is a sign of not too many healthy ones.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:42 AM (lX8VI)

I'm literally arguing to wait for information to come out. When people respond with "that just gives the government time to cover everything up" then yes that is some real 9-11 truther energy.

Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:48 AM (aqZN1)

371 FBI Says No Indication of Terrorism in DC Plane-Helicopter Collision Near Reagan Airport
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Well I feel better.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:48 AM (lX8VI)

372 If this was just an accident the helo pilot must have been lost. Who flies across an active runway?
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That is a question that needs answering, What was the helo doing there?

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 12:49 AM (Dnobf)

373 AoP

He pulled an Andrea Doria? Maybe.

I have the sad suspicion that the American Eagle pilots never saw the UH-60 so the CVR will probably have nothing except a query "do you see him?" and a reply of "negative" followed by them continuing with the landing. Likely impact judging from the flight paths would have the UH-60 hitting behind the wing on the right side.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:49 AM (Cp5Ma)

374 R A W S A L E R T S @rawsalerts 53m
🚨#BREAKING: Shared to me anonymously shows the Playback from official Air Traffic Control radar
📌#Washington | #DC
Watch as exclusive playback, sent anonymously by @avgeekjake to Rawsalerst, reveals official Air Traffic Control radar footage displaying the Collision Alert. This alert is not for an imminent collision but serves as a tool to draw heightened attention from the controllers to potential risks. The footage then captures the critical moment when both aircraft collided, emphasizing the urgency of the controllers' split-second decisions. The radar data provides a detailed view of the events leading up to the crash, offering valuable insight into the sequence of actions and how the situation ultimately unfolded.

https://tinyurl.com/327ydzfy
49 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:50 AM (5LoD7)

375
I'm literally arguing to wait for information to come out. When people respond with "that just gives the government time to cover everything up" then yes that is some real 9-11 truther energy.
Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:48 AM (aqZN1)

Definitely not what I said and I did just about apologize for being more harsh than I normally would. Of all places it's DC. Should raise anyone's hackles if only for a few days.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:50 AM (lX8VI)

376 Looking at the NJ drone "panic" that had an obvious explanation that no one wanted to hear. They just wanted OUTRAGE!

Posted by: pawn at January 30, 2025 12:22 AM (QB+5g)

I didn't see a single drone in my corner of jersey. I have a friend who was seeing them a lot, but he's probably 45 miles from me. He swore it had to be aliens. I told him, I said dude, if there is a race that's that advanced to where they can cross untold light years of space to get here, they're not going to use frigging drones. Their Mr spock will know the color of the corn in your shit 3 planets away.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 12:50 AM (VwHCD)

377 FBI Says No Indication of Terrorism in DC Plane-Helicopter Collision Near Reagan Airport
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Well, shit.

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 12:50 AM (Dnobf)

378 Anonymous radar footage when the NTSB isn't on the scene yet?

I call bullshit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:52 AM (Cp5Ma)

379 328
Helicopter is visible as a bright light traveling towards the plane's path, so it had a light on.

Posted by: Ciampino - everything probably happened too fast? at January 30, 2025 12:52 AM (KjLnc)

380 Press conference is finally about to start.

Sec. of Tran Sean Duffy

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 12:55 AM (Cp5Ma)

381 9/11/01 was bizarre because eyewitness reports or reporting were so far off. Small cessna don’t leave gigantic holes in buildings, and one seemed to think that without ATC airliners would inevitably just randomly crash into skyscrapers on clear sunny days. There are some real idiots out walking around for sure.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 12:55 AM (+4cXA)

382 I'm literally arguing to wait for information to come out. When people respond with "that just gives the government time to cover everything up" then yes that is some real 9-11 truther energy.
Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 12:48 AM (aqZN1)

This is a blog ,not a court of law.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:55 AM (IOGah)

383 Tim Murtaugh @TimMurtaugh 2h
This post should follow you forever, you disgusting, partisan ghoul. They are currently still pulling bodies out of the water and you have no idea what happened.

You think a government committee cause this crash?

Aaron Rupar @atrupar 2h
headlines from a week ago as an incident near DCA appears to be the deadliest aviation disaster in the US since 9/11 huffpost.com/entry/trump-avi…

Trump Guts Key Aviation Safety Committee, Fires Heads Of TSA, Coast Guard
The committee will technically continue to exist, but it won't have any members to carry out the work of examining safety issues at airlines and airports.
JOSH FUNK; Jan 22, 2025, 11:54 AM EST
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Leftist spin, incoming.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 12:56 AM (5LoD7)

384 344 I have reservations about making reservations to visit the reservations.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:30 AM (IOGah)
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That's why the Indians were here first!

Posted by: Ciampino - They had reservations at January 30, 2025 12:58 AM (KjLnc)

385 "deadliest aviation disaster in the US since 9/11"
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I'm sorry 9/11 was a what now?

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:59 AM (lX8VI)

386 I had Indian food while watching the Indians with an Indian.

Posted by: eleven at January 30, 2025 01:00 AM (fV+MH)

387 Gotta believe it's an accident, unless/until there is compelling evidence to the contrary
Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 12:43 AM (AOsQT)


Occam's Razor. Until it's not -- and we're not at that point yet.

Shit Happens. And I'm not making light of this disaster. But it's all in how you respond. And right now, I'll wait for the response to be over before I start going with one theory or another.

Posted by: RickZ at January 30, 2025 01:01 AM (gKDq2)

388 I like the word that has a totally different meaning when capitalized.

polish

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 01:01 AM (IOGah)

389 Ahhhh "Trump's 9/11". As predictable as morning dew. And away we go.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:01 AM (lX8VI)

390 Get the FUNK out Josh.

Begone from my sight you vile vermin, you are not fit to lick cat shit in the litter box.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:02 AM (Cp5Ma)

391 Aaron Rupar needs to suck start a live hand grenade.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 01:02 AM (sAmhv)

392 I am confused... Rupar or Funk?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:03 AM (Cp5Ma)

393 This is a blog ,not a court of law.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 12:55 AM (IOGah)

We are supposed to be a smart military blog, not DU. Seems to me it would be very difficult for a slow-moving aircraft to deliberately hit a fast-moving aircraft moving on a vector close to 90 degrees to the flight vector of the slow aircraft.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:03 AM (8zz6B)

394 Occam's razor has dulled considerably this last decade or two.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:03 AM (lX8VI)

395 Aaron Rupar needs to suck start a live hand grenade.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 01:02 AM (sAmhv)

They can deport every last illegal alien down to the last embryo, and in the end will still have millions of scumbags that will make it impossible to ever nice nice things.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 01:05 AM (VwHCD)

396 I am confused... Rupar or Funk?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:03 AM (Cp5Ma)

Twatter syntax can make damned hard to know who said what, and when.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:05 AM (8zz6B)

397 >>> 396 Aaron Rupar needs to suck start a live hand grenade.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 01:02 AM (sAmhv)

They can deport every last illegal alien down to the last embryo, and in the end will still have millions of scumbags that will make it impossible to ever nice nice things.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 30, 2025 01:05 AM (VwHCD)

That's ok, we still ought to have a canal along the US-Mexico border.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 01:06 AM (Vqx30)

398 We are supposed to be a smart military blog, not DU. Seems to me it would be very difficult for a slow-moving aircraft to deliberately hit a fast-moving aircraft moving on a vector close to 90 degrees to the flight vector of the slow aircraft.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:03 AM (8zz6B)

Make your argument against the conjecture then which the DU doesn't do. What they do do though is try to suppress viewpoints their Borg doesn't agree with.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 01:06 AM (IOGah)

399 Conspiracy theory: It was a conspiracy of circumstances

See above reference to Andrea Doria

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:07 AM (XeU6L)

400 This press conference is pretty useless.

Whoops - Reagan will stay closed until 11.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:08 AM (Cp5Ma)

401 >> I had Indian food..

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at January 30, 2025 01:08 AM (l3YAf)

402 I am confused... Rupar or Funk?
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Rupar -- citing the Funk 'article' from last week as a prediction.

Rupar is an infamous leftist media shit, almost always by truncating actual quotes to give a false impression about what was actually said.

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 30, 2025 01:08 AM (5LoD7)

403 It's more like Occam's Baseball Bat at this point.

Of course it's extremely extremely likely to be just an accident.

And for a long time covid was extremely likely to NOT have been developed by our own government and unleashed on the world from a bioweapon lab inside an enemy country.

When it comes to current events, probability is a fool's game.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:09 AM (lX8VI)

404 Except Mike Hammer I am having trouble wrapping my mind around two helicopter pilots not noticing they are getting closer to strobing anti-collision lights.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:09 AM (Cp5Ma)

405 That's ok, we still ought to have a canal along the US-Mexico border.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 01:06 AM (Vqx30)

Make a yuuuge wide canal without locks across the entire border, allowing ships to transit and stopping illegals from entering.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (l3YAf)

406 Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 12:55 AM (+4cXA)

Eyewitness reports are frequently terrible. TWA-800 had infamously bad eyewitness accounts. Most people aren't paying much attention before something shocking happens, and after it does it's pretty easy to create a narrative to fill in the details.

Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (aqZN1)

407 Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 01:06 AM (IOGah)

👀

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (lX8VI)

408 Okay...are we dealing with theories, hypotheses, or conjectures?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (XeU6L)

409 The whole gamut

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (Cp5Ma)

410 Okay...are we dealing with theories, hypotheses, or conjectures?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (XeU6L)

Put the Thesaurus away.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 01:14 AM (IOGah)

411 Eyewitness reports are frequently terrible. TWA-800 had infamously bad eyewitness accounts. Most people aren't paying much attention before something shocking happens, and after it does it's pretty easy to create a narrative to fill in the details.
Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 01:11 AM (aqZN1)

I’ve seen videos from 9/11 clearly showing planes hitting the towers but eyewitnesses on the scene a minute later saying “It was definitely a bomb, not a plane!” or insisting it was a missile.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at January 30, 2025 01:14 AM (l3YAf)

412 Except Mike Hammer I am having trouble wrapping my mind around two helicopter pilots not noticing they are getting closer to strobing anti-collision lights.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:09 AM (Cp5Ma)

And perhaps the helo crew saw the approaching airliner, but believed they were sufficiently below its flight path to avoid a collision. And in the last few seconds, one realized that they were on collision course, and shouted, "Go down!" And the green pilot pulled up on the collective instead.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:15 AM (8zz6B)

413 The red man came and stole our land.

Posted by: The Souletreans at January 30, 2025 01:15 AM (E0r6f)

414 Why do the idiots at the Eff.Bee.EYE insist on jumping in to say 'this is not terrorism' when nobody has any information yet, other than to show that they are Top.Men. (and in fact showing more the opposite)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 01:15 AM (Vqx30)

415 Tired of tracking everything. Early morning stuff calls.

God bless the families of those in the crash.

https://youtu.be/Yri2JNhyG4k

G'nite, y'all. God bless us every one.

Posted by: mindful webworker - forthwith at January 30, 2025 01:15 AM (S9FPP)

416 Except Mike Hammer I am having trouble wrapping my mind around two helicopter pilots not noticing they are getting closer to strobing anti-collision lights.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Twice ships collided with the Nantucket light ship.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:16 AM (XeU6L)

417 FBI is asshole

Posted by: fourseasons at January 30, 2025 01:17 AM (3ek7K)

418 Dang it, how to fool pilots. Optical illusion. Something fooled them?

Need to ferret out a UH-1/UFO incident where the crew were fooled by a meteor into believing they were being attacked by a UFO.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:17 AM (Cp5Ma)

419 "deadliest aviation disaster in the US since 9/11"
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I'm sorry 9/11 was a what now?
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:59 AM (lX8VI)

Even stupider considering American Airlines 587 was 265 dead one month after 9-11.

Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 01:18 AM (aqZN1)

420 Looks like it's going about 60 people. This type of thing has become fairly rare.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:19 AM (E0r6f)

421 Twice ships collided with the Nantucket light ship.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:16 AM (XeU6L)

Wasn't there a famous radio exchange with a Navy captain demanding that lighthouse yield the right of way?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:19 AM (8zz6B)

422 60 passengers, 4 crew. And three in the helicopter.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:19 AM (Cp5Ma)

423 I deal mostly in conjecture, consternation and hair on fire. Anything else would be uncivilized.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:20 AM (lX8VI)

424
Even stupider considering American Airlines 587 was 265 dead one month after 9-11.
Posted by: Sjg at January 30, 2025 01:18 AM (aqZN1)

Thank you I thought I remembered other stuff happening since, even if it was so close.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:21 AM (lX8VI)

425 Fatal US air crash in 2009.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:21 AM (Cp5Ma)

426 Have they released the manifest yet? Any VIPs on board?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 30, 2025 01:21 AM (IOGah)

427 407
Sure, and the CIA was involved. Gee, I wonder why?
According to Gov: TWA800 tank explodes, thus putting at least one engine out, maybe both if the wing fell off, and the front of the plane goes into a steep climb after all that power loss? What energy did it use?

Posted by: Ciampino - Useless press conference at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (KjLnc)

428 And for a long time covid was extremely likely to NOT have been developed by our own government and unleashed on the world from a bioweapon lab inside an enemy country.
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How are you measuring that as being a long time?

I remember Gaetz asking questions in a hearing in like January of 2020 about why we were funding the Wuhan lab where the outbreak started.

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (Dnobf)

429 The nerve of the lighthouse operator to fail to yield right of way.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (E0r6f)

430
Wasn't there a famous radio exchange with a Navy captain demanding that lighthouse yield the right of way?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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As the lore goes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (XeU6L)

431 >>> 422 Twice ships collided with the Nantucket light ship.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:16 AM (XeU6L)

Wasn't there a famous radio exchange with a Navy captain demanding that lighthouse yield the right of way?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:19 AM (8zz6B)

I remember that, it may have even been posted on an ONT, can't recall for sure though.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (Vqx30)

432 Are you saying the UH-60 identified as an F-22?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (Cp5Ma)

433 'm sorry 9/11 was a what now?
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:59 AM (lX8VI)

Some people did something.


Weird. Why is ICE rolling up on my house?

Posted by: Brofo Omar at January 30, 2025 01:23 AM (W5ArC)

434 Have they released the manifest yet? Any VIPs on board?
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No, they're still inviting family members of passengers to contact their hotline, which is to say they haven't been notified yet.

Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 01:24 AM (Dnobf)

435 The nerve of the lighthouse operator to fail to yield right of way.
Posted by: Boss Moss
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He didn't. He just said, 'I'm a lighthouse...your call'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 01:24 AM (XeU6L)

436 386 "deadliest aviation disaster in the US since 9/11"
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I'm sorry 9/11 was a what now?
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 12:59 AM (lX8VI)

A "tragedy". You know, like Munich '72, October 7th, or the Mumbai attacks in 2008.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at January 30, 2025 01:25 AM (lg881)

437 367 Yeah to the layman a “training flight” has specific connotations, none of them good.
Posted by: Common Tater
..........................
I get it. Really. But....Training happens at night here. I won't go into details but night time training is common in DC. I've been in a few. On the ground, not in the air. This marshwiggle does not like helicopters.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 01:25 AM (sAmhv)

438 Nothing beats the US Navy and the Honda Point disaster. They lost six Clemson class destroyers for taking too early of a turn.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:25 AM (Cp5Ma)

439 Okay...are we dealing with theories, hypotheses, or conjectures?
Posted by: Mike Hammer


I'm seeing about 90% WAGs, 10% SWAGs.

Posted by: mikeski at January 30, 2025 01:25 AM (DgGvY)

440 How are you measuring that as being a long time?

I remember Gaetz asking questions in a hearing in like January of 2020 about why we were funding the Wuhan lab where the outbreak started.
Posted by: Methos at January 30, 2025 01:22 AM (Dnobf)

I genuinely thought our involvement came out a couple months after we knew about the lab which was practically right away. I'm not gonna argue with you but I will say all of it was at least more than a few hours after the wet market bs story.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:26 AM (lX8VI)

441 > 387 I had Indian food while watching the Indians with an Indian.
Posted by: eleven at January 30, 2025 01:00 AM (fV+MH)

The Indian needed food.
And some skins for a roof.

Posted by: Theodosius Atrocious at January 30, 2025 01:26 AM (W5ArC)

442 What was the weather like near the airport at the time of the collision? I have been on planes that hit "bumps" on approach, and lost or gained a few feet in altitude from their glide path.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:27 AM (8zz6B)

443 Press conference they described the water as cold and wind breezy. But judging from the live feeds a perfectly clear night.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:28 AM (Cp5Ma)

444 Again, a “training flight” doesn’t mean they were green pilots. Could have been 2 CW4s with 9,000 flight hours each.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 01:29 AM (IDQSL)

445 Night all.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:29 AM (Cp5Ma)

446 I genuinely thought our involvement came out a couple months after we knew about the lab which was practically right away. I'm not gonna argue with you but I will say all of it was at least more than a few hours after the wet market bs story.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:26 AM (lX8VI)

The MSM is still denying that it was a lab-leak. The U.S. government is still mostly lying and obfuscating.

I remember people were pointing out the Wuhan Institute of Virology connection almost immediately. However, just because one conspiracy theory proves true does not mean all conspiracy theories are true. This looks like an accident.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at January 30, 2025 01:31 AM (l3YAf)

447 The story at the time, the WuHan coronavirus clinic had substandard protocols or whatever and scared the hell out of the CDC so someone decided to give ‘em a fuckpile of money to clean up their act. It didn’t help, apparently

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 01:32 AM (IDQSL)

448 > Little House on the Prairie, a reimagining of the Laura Ingalls Wilder book series, is coming to Netflix!

Let me guess: Laura is black. Ma is a lesbian. Pa is a "transwoman".

Posted by: Theodosius Atrocious at January 30, 2025 01:33 AM (W5ArC)

449 443 What was the weather like near the airport at the time of the collision? I have been on planes that hit "bumps" on approach, and lost or gained a few feet in altitude from their glide path.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
.........................
It's a clear night.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 01:33 AM (sAmhv)

450 Good night, Anna.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 30, 2025 01:34 AM (W5ArC)

451 Yeah, time for me to hit the sack, too. One comforting thought: the Trump administration is much more likely to honest about the causes of this disaster than was Biden's, and if it turns out to be malfeasance or incompetence on the part of any FED employees involved, that goes to Biden, too. Simply not enough time for Trump's EO's to have gotten that granular.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:35 AM (8zz6B)

452 If they only had a single crewchief he would normally sit on the right side, it’s possible the crew didn’t see the acft from the left. I guess. More eyeballs is always good. More than once I looked up front and saw both pilots looking down inside at the map or whatever, under night vision goggles. Yeesh “Hey somebody needs to look out front to see where we’re goin’, ya know”

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 01:38 AM (IDQSL)

453 Chicago's mayor has private GIFT ROOM stuffed with designer gear

https://mol.im/a/14339273

He's not beautiful so are these bribes?

Posted by: Ciampino - Useless piece of meat at January 30, 2025 01:40 AM (KjLnc)

454 Dem DA's outrageous decision after girl, 11, was raped by migrant in Boston shelter

https://mol.im/a/14337977

Posted by: Ciampino - it's Masshole at January 30, 2025 01:44 AM (KjLnc)

455 Greetings, horde! Today was...something.

Good news: Hubby is not on hospice. (Yet?) He'd suddenly had trouble moving his leg & was in pain, so we all thought "the worst" -- turns out, he simply couldn't find the words to say that he had fallen. Hard. When nobody else was around. (He was supposed to always use his call-button, but either didn't remember or was too impatient)

The Bad news: He broke his hip.

Surgery in the morning. Ugh.

Poor man, he's been thru so much! He's just falling apart before my eyes and I'm helpless..

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 01:48 AM (YoCnN)

456 Former advisor to Obama's White House who flew to Britain to 'rape a nine-year-old girl' is jailed in the UK.

https://mol.im/a/14338675

Posted by: Ciampino - these people are beyond redemption on Earth at January 30, 2025 01:49 AM (KjLnc)

457 Poor man, he's been thru so much! He's just falling apart before my eyes and I'm helpless..
Posted by: JQ


Continued prayers for you both, JQ.

Posted by: mikeski at January 30, 2025 01:50 AM (DgGvY)

458

I'm sorry to hear that JQ.

I pray things start looking up for you both.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 01:54 AM (3ek7K)

459 'Come get it, b**ch': Construction worker taunts 'Daddy Trump' daring him to arrest and deport him

https://mol.im/a/14338245

Posted by: Ciampino - enjoy Guantanamo at January 30, 2025 01:56 AM (KjLnc)

460 Thanks. At this point, I'm just numb & a bit exasperated.

One shot of brown. And I don't even *like* brown. Gotta calm my nerves. Ugh.

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 01:57 AM (YoCnN)

461 119
My grandma used to say 'davenport' for the couch. She grew up on a farm. Go figure.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 29, 2025 10:38 PM (mlg/3)
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A davenport folds out into a bed so is convenient for guests.

Posted by: Ciampino - not the best of beds but adequate at January 30, 2025 02:01 AM (KjLnc)

462 Zoom in to 0.1NM:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a97753,ae313d

https://tinyurl.com/3ceejyjp

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 30, 2025 02:01 AM (bKqAu)

463 Dayum... didn't mean to kill the thread!

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 02:15 AM (YoCnN)

464 BLM activist mayor storms out of meeting after slamming black locals for questioning luxury trip

https://mol.im/a/14338165

Posted by: Ciampino - Become a Black mayor - see the World with tax money at January 30, 2025 02:16 AM (KjLnc)

465

JQ,

Did you read about the helicopter and plane crash?

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:18 AM (3ek7K)

466
Helicopter Pilot Error. 100%. End of story.
ATC did their job.

Tower instructed to pilot to sight TRJ and "pass behind" TRJ. Pilot acknowledged.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 02:23 AM (4dSnS)

467
Correction: CRJ

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 02:25 AM (4dSnS)

468 Have the morons started accusing the pilot of being transgender yet?

Posted by: raimondo at January 30, 2025 02:26 AM (TPpZI)

469

It did look like the helicopter was at fault. The video is blurry so who knows.

The jet was in two pieces in the water. I wonder if the helicopter broadsided the plane.

What a terrible thing for everyone involved.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:33 AM (3ek7K)

470 Final words of IRS agent accidentally shot to death by coworker

https://mol.im/a/14333709

Why do IRS agents need guns? Trump needs to disarm all the agencies that don't get disbanded. Sell all the guns and ammo to civilians. If they need official backup then use local LEOs.

Posted by: Ciampino - Become a Black mayor - party with tax money at January 30, 2025 02:33 AM (KjLnc)

471 Have the morons started accusing the pilot of being transgender yet?
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You know a lot about transgenders?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 02:34 AM (XeU6L)

472
yeah, they do a great job robbing us of our money unarmed.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:34 AM (3ek7K)

473
VH-60 "gold top" Helicopter

Oh, for fuck's sake...

Okay, so presumably the helicopter was operating out of Joint Base Bolling, ACROSS the river from Reagan Intl Airport.

Here's where it gets interesting: There exists a "procedure" in this area where aircraft (helicopters) can "dart" across the river RIGHT ACROSS THE FINAL APPROACH for Runway 33.

So what the Helicopter Pilot did was, quite likely, a ROUTINE Procedure.

Unfortunately, the Pilot FAILED to spot the Delta CRJ and fly BEHIND it.

One more thing, these two aircraft were likely on TWO different Frequencies but communicating with the same Tower/Controller. Which means, I think, the Delta Crew was completely unaware of what was transpiring.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 02:36 AM (4dSnS)

474

Mike Hammer,

Do you know if the wildfires around Old Fort are under control yet?

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:36 AM (3ek7K)

475
btw, credit to Youtuber "blancolirio" for the above info and phrasing

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 02:38 AM (4dSnS)

476

Sounds like a stupid procedure.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:40 AM (3ek7K)

477
Sounds like a stupid procedure.
Posted by: four seasons


Especially at night.

Posted by: Soothsayer likes gladiators at January 30, 2025 02:43 AM (4dSnS)

478 Mike Hammer,

Do you know if the wildfires around Old Fort are under control yet?

Posted by: four seasons
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Received an emergency alert this morning. Latest, 10 p.m. :
Update at 10 p.m.:

Emergency personnel will be on the scene throughout the night at each wildfire that is burning to ensure life and property are protected.
Rest assured both fires are being monitored closely with crews on scene working to contain these fires.

Should new evacuation orders be issued we will send out alert messages which will activate cell phones.

Please ensure your phone is on and able to receive emergency alerts.

An emergency shelter will remain open at 203 East Main Street in Old Fort.


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 02:47 AM (XeU6L)

479

Mike,

Ya'll don't need any more Mother Nature disasters.

I hope they are contained soon.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:49 AM (3ek7K)

480 Team USA figure skaters and coaches were among the passengers on the flight from Wichita to Washington DC, according to Team USA pair skater Luke Wang.

https://tinyurl.com/2wjuw6pz

Posted by: Ciampino - Wow at January 30, 2025 02:53 AM (KjLnc)

481

The families of the passengers, I cannot imagine how devasted they are.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:56 AM (3ek7K)

482 JQ,

Did you read about the helicopter and plane crash?

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 02:18 AM
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Yes. Feel sorry for all the victims' families....

Got other stuff on my mind right now.

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 02:57 AM (YoCnN)

483 Ya'll don't need any more Mother Nature disasters.

I hope they are contained soon.
Posted by: four seasons
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It has been an interesting Fall/Winter. Damn near afraid to step outside.

What's odd is that all of this is having a psychological impact on people. Numerous people have told me that they don't feel safe anymore. Not 'safe' in the sociological sense, but something larger.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 02:59 AM (XeU6L)

484 Kenyan country ... I I have no words... at least not in Swahili:
youtube.com/watch?v=f0T_gkKIDb8

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 30, 2025 03:01 AM (mlg/3)

485

Probably an impending sense of doom. It would be difficult to deal with.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 03:01 AM (3ek7K)

486 It's a political rally song apparently. But, dang.

Posted by: weft cut-Batman at January 30, 2025 03:05 AM (mlg/3)

487 Need some sleep.

Posted by: Ciampino - Cat is already in the slot ready for ZZZs at January 30, 2025 03:08 AM (KjLnc)

488
Goodnight everyone.

JQ, I hope all goes well for you and hubby tomorrow.

Posted by: four seasons at January 30, 2025 03:09 AM (3ek7K)

489 Morning, insomaniacals. I'm up earlier than I planned, so what else is new, but I guess I got enough sleep.

'Tis Thor's Day, the Day of the Hammer, or Friday Eve. All kinds of ways to look at it. Are you still having some winter? I think ours is pretty much done.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:11 AM (omVj0)

490 Hey, JQ. How are you coming along?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:12 AM (omVj0)

491 Mornin' Wolfus! Long time...

I'm ok. Hubby is having one hell of a time lately.

Too tired to cry, ya know? Ugh.

How's it all going for you?

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 03:14 AM (YoCnN)

492
I'm ok. Hubby is having one hell of a time lately.

Too tired to cry, ya know? Ugh.

How's it all going for you?
Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025


***
Yeah, I looked up the thread and saw. My condolences to you and your man. When I first got sober, one of the sayings at AA meetings that annoyed me no end was, "God never gives us more than we can handle." I was like, "Oh, yeah? Really, huh? Tell me all about that." But over time . . . I came to see it was true. It may not seem like it at the time, and maybe not for a good while, but eventually . . .

Anyway, last week I handled the snow. (I tell people I looked like one of those Antarctic explorers with ice in my beard, and I was sure I was being stalked across my parking lot by a leopard seal.) People here panicked, of course, but it really wasn't that bad.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:24 AM (omVj0)

493 I've got a little time yet before I have to decide to work our or not. It's 66 outside (last week it was 26!). Usually I skip Thursday, but it'll rain early tomorrow.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:28 AM (omVj0)

494 It’s nacho place for y’all to serve nachos up in here.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at January 30, 2025 03:30 AM (fY84s)

495 Yeah, Wolfus, I saw a pic of Pensacola Beach (with snow!) and LOL'd... it snowed a little bit when I first got there in early '82. Madness! Ice Capades for cars! Heh.

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"God never gives us more than we can handle."

Well... I've handled so much over the last few years, and so much more just lately, feels like I'm gonna crack! Hubby, bless him, doesn't even realize that he's all messed up.

Shaking my head

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 03:39 AM (YoCnN)

496 Sending prayers, hugs and thoughts your way, JQ.

Beddy-bye for me. G'nite folks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 30, 2025 03:40 AM (XeU6L)

497 Captain obvious here...Leftists are complete trash..DO NOT wade into yahoo comments on air disaster. Lots of type delete responses needed

Posted by: a dude in MI at January 30, 2025 03:41 AM (+I6Y/)

498 "God never gives us more than we can handle."

Well... I've handled so much over the last few years, and so much more just lately, feels like I'm gonna crack! Hubby, bless him, doesn't even realize that he's all messed up.

Shaking my head
Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025


***
Yeah, it's one of those maxims that make you go, "Aw, c'mon. Tell me another one." But it is true, JQ. Maybe best in retrospect, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:42 AM (omVj0)

499 Hang in there, JQ.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 30, 2025 03:45 AM (sAmhv)

500 I'm wearing my terrycloth robe. Kinda warm in here.
Maybe it's time to shift to the seersucker one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:46 AM (omVj0)

501 Let's just say that it seems like "life" is just thumbing it's fking nose at me & hubby right now.

We both worked hard for many years, and *this* is our retirement?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu........k!

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 03:46 AM (YoCnN)

502 Yes, I'm having a pity party.

No, I'm not feeling particularly grateful at the moment.

Next person what says "Oh, but it could be worse" gets punched!

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 03:49 AM (YoCnN)

503 Gulfport used to be a fun escape from town. Every March there was a big SF convention at the Hotel d'Iberville on Hwy. 90 out there. The first Mrs. Wolfus, and later the second, and I used to make it a fun weekend every year between '79 and '86.

I'm not even sure the hotel is still there since Katrina, and the area has changed a *lot.* The town of Waveland was almost completely gone the last time I looked.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 30, 2025 03:50 AM (omVj0)

504 Pixie is arrived

Posted by: Pete Bog at January 30, 2025 04:02 AM (kq/Qu)

505 Drove thru Gulfport going to & from Mardi Gras, way back then... didn't stop unless maybe for gas? Needed to get back to base LOL.

Posted by: JQ at January 30, 2025 04:02 AM (YoCnN)

506 So sorry JQ. Will pray.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 07:57 AM (cjAAr)

507 Good blog you have got here.. It's hard to find good quality
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Take care!!

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