The Left is Now at Its Most Unpopular at Any Time Since the the Cold War<br><font color="red">Update: CNN Has Settled With Young</font>

The Left is Now at Its Most Unpopular at Any Time Since the the Cold War
Update: CNN Has Settled With Young

Leftism is now more unpopular than when the Soviet Union was still kicking around.

Good job, Donkey-Chompers.

Lefty political parties across the world are now more unpopular than any time since the Cold War, a staggering analysis of recent elections shows.
The Left suffered a record-low average of just 45% of votes in dozens of ballots held globally last year, according to the analysis of 73 democratic elections, conducted by the Telegraph.
In the United States and Western Europe, progressives were even more unpopular -- with the left-leaning parties securing only 42% of their respective votes.
The Right, meanwhile, won 57% of the average votes -- representing the widest gap since 1990, the analysis found.
Trump, who will be inaugurated on Monday, secured the popular vote with 77 million votes compared to the 75 million his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, raked in.
The Left's declining popularity is only expected to continue, too, experts say.
In the wake of Harris' defeat, leftist parties in Canada, Australia, and Germany are already predicted to suffer similar losses in upcoming ballots.
"The trend is up. There is no real reason to expect that it will stop anytime soon," Prof. Matthijs Rooduijn, a political scientist from the University of Amsterdam, told the outlet.

Update: Settled. Before I mentioned that the lawyer excused himself "to call my client." (AlextheChick pointed this out.) I thought maybe he was calling CNN to tell them, "We have to settle, what's the most you can offer?"

Unfortunately, this means that the size of the award will be protected by an NDA and we won't know how much they paid out. I guess maybe we can take guesses about it based on corporate filings, but they'll hide the amount in general "legal expenses" sums. Unless it's like a half billion dollars, I doubt we'll ever be able to have a good idea of how big the settlement is. The stone of the settlement will be hidden under too much general legal expenses sand.

Posted by: Ace at 05:30 PM

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1 In before "swing of the pendulum".

Posted by: Bert G at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (CiC/b)

2 Yasssssss. This is great news.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (raeI8)

3 75 million for Kamala ? Why do I doubt that

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (VE6XX)

4 >>>Good job, Donkey-Chompers.

She's the left's idiot queen. The idiot's love her. Normies and people who have to do real work and live in the real world? Not so much.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (i24o9)

5 I've got this idea for a movie where I put 3 penguins in a room and it eventually get so fouled with poop you can't even see what is going on.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (vFG9F)

6 And because they live in an echo chamber, they don't realize how fed up people are with them and their ideas. This is especially bad in DC. They need to lose badly for a decade.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 17, 2025 05:33 PM (NQtI0)

7 USA trend setters!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:33 PM (jQ+5q)

8 This is, of course, all because of the TRUMP!!! curse.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:34 PM (vFG9F)

9 Imagine how much lower the leftist numbers would be without their lap dog media.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (3Ev2O)

10 Heard Chris Plante say that Biden exits office with the worst approval rating ever recorded since they started to record such things.

Mid 60s % thinks Biden's presidency was not worth it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

11 5 I've got this idea for a movie where I put 3 penguins in a room and it eventually get so fouled with poop you can't even see what is going on.
Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (vFG9F)

Sorry, David Lynch is morte.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (sEnU7)

12 5 I've got this idea for a movie where I put 3 penguins in a room and it eventually get so fouled with poop you can't even see what is going on.
Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (vFG9F)

Really! Can I wear a tuxedo? I always wanted to wear a tuxedo.

-Jerry Nadler

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (jQ+5q)

13 Winning!

Posted by: Gref at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (aBgBM)

14
Good job, Donkey-Chompers

What did that numpty dullard do or say now?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (xG4kz)

15 Imagine how much lower the leftist numbers would be without their lap dog media.

Posted by: Beartooth at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (3Ev2O)

And without vote fraud and endless ballot counting.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (i24o9)

16 WEF has impoverished most native citizens in the West and made things worse day by day in how they live. Economic deprivation is one thing but add in illegals, censorship, embedded corruption, incompetence in office, and so on. The late Soviet Union was not intended as a model for the world to follow.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (ctrM5)

17 1 In before "swing of the pendulum".

I've only been told this for about three decades now.

I think it's all Trump. And many here ... many, many ... won't like the end result.

The end isn't Conservatism. Its Nationalist Populism. It'll be more unions, not less. Less cheap foreign goods, not more.

Tighter borders. More law and order. Less cheap labor.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:36 PM (E0n90)

18 “Time for a rebrand!”

— the Left

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 17, 2025 05:36 PM (Nzc3e)

19 The left is giddy that Trump can't have his Inauguration outdoors.. He won't be able to "lie "about the size of crowd this way

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2025 05:36 PM (VE6XX)

20 I can't imagine the caterwauling of those Senate harpies has helped the slide at all.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 17, 2025 05:36 PM (whIlM)

21 10 Heard Chris Plante say that Biden exits office with the worst approval rating ever recorded since they started to record such things.

Mid 60s % thinks Biden's presidency was not worth it.
Posted by: Axeman
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Makes the electorate more amenable to discussing the 2020 cheat and fixing it.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:36 PM (ctrM5)

22 It really is because of Trump.

In response to him, and the common people he champions, they couldn't stop themselves from pulling off the masks.

Posted by: davidt at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (i0F8b)

23 Lefty political parties across the world are now more unpopular than any time since the Cold War, a staggering analysis of recent elections shows.
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I'd guess that more and more people notice that "March through the institutions" is all about the marchers, and only in theory about us.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (krQz2)

24 Back off Fatman, I'm working this side of the street.

Posted by: Tennessee Tuxedo at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (3Ev2O)

25 It won't last, look at the UK. The Liberals were dead as a party, utterly hopeless and out of power four years ago. Now they are in charge. It goes in cycles, but it does look like the culture is pushing back against the crazy extremes of the left. And that's good news, at least a little.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (2VST1)

26 Gen X is becoming ascendant. By far the most conservative American demographic.

Interesting to see the difference between Trump's Boomer appointees like that stuff shirt Sessions and worthless Barr and the younger generation. Sen. Mullins remarking that voting while drunk and cheating on spouses is standard operating procedure in the Senate was music to my ears.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (ZOv7s)

27 Make the world great again.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (fV+MH)

28 >>I've got this idea for a movie where I put 3 penguins in a room and it eventually get so fouled with poop you can't even see what is going on.
Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (vFG9F)
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Probably be better than "Rabbits."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (bNf8H)

29 Crap. Comment past failure

Posted by: Tennessee Tuxedo at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (3Ev2O)

30 Trump, who will be inaugurated on Monday, secured the popular vote with 77 million votes compared to the 75 million his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, raked in.
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Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (5LoD7)

31 Opus would rule the roost.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Day 4 of Funemployment at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (Ad8y9)

32 Joe still has time to write a new constitution.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (63Dwl)

33 Before moving on, did our 'huge victory' just turn into a minor inconvenience with the settlement? $5M seems like nothing.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (4780s)

34 Probably be better than "Rabbits."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (bNf8H)
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Awww! We hateses the skwewy wabbitses!!

Posted by: Elmer Smeagol at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (krQz2)

35 It won't last, look at the UK. The Liberals were dead as a party, utterly hopeless and out of power four years ago. Now they are in charge. It goes in cycles, but it does look like the culture is pushing back against the crazy extremes of the left. And that's good news, at least a little.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (2VST1)
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No, it's Labour. There is also a Liberal Democrat party, that not long ago was strong enough to form a coalition gov't with the Tories.

The problem is that the Tories and Labour are the same now. The Tories are just slower about it and have Etonian accents. Labour won because everyone hated the Tories.

Now Labour is doing the usual leftist thing - lying about their agenda and doing nothing related to what they campaigned on.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (ZOv7s)

36 DC from DC baby!

I've been to better High School pep rally's than Donkey Chompers rally in Da Bronx.. She rushed out onstage like a she was playing an arena. What an ASSHOLE!!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (jQ+5q)

37 In response, I think they’ll double down on crazy.

Posted by: Allen at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (d2p0K)

38 " I've got this idea for a movie where I put 3 penguins in a room and it eventually get so fouled with poop you can't even see what is going on.
Posted by: fd"

I give it two thumbs up.

Posted by: Gene Siskel at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (fV+MH)

39 Getting mugged by Reality has consequences.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (snN/i)

40 32 Joe still has time to write a new constitution.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (63Dwl)

You can bet "Joe" wink, wink is working on it...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (VE6XX)

41 I'm not tired of winning yet.

Posted by: bluebell at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (79pEw)

42 Before moving on, did our 'huge victory' just turn into a minor inconvenience with the settlement? $5M seems like nothing.
Posted by: From about That Time at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (4780s)
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A court of law found CNN and Jake Tapper were defamatory. That was always the goal, and it was accomplished.

The money was gravy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (ZOv7s)

43 The decline won’t stop because they are doubling down on deviancy.

Hakeem Jeffries just smeared all K-12 boys as “predators” in response to bill that will have trans girls not playing on girls sports teams. He said this “unleashes predators.”

Yeah, no, parents do not accept that bigoted framing.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (Hkcdp)

44 Joe still has time to write a new constitution.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (63Dwl)
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Congress is going to have to strike that rant about Cornpop, though.

Posted by: Elmer Smeagol at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (krQz2)

45
Joe still has time to write a new constitution.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

For sure it'll include a "good and plenty" clause!

"Good and plenty" ice cream, of course!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (xG4kz)

46 Probably be better than "Rabbits."
Posted by: Frasier Crane at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (bNf8H)

A re-boot of "Night of the Lepus"?

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (rj6Yv)

47 Did they drop another 2k+ commutations today?

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (snN/i)

48 What do you do, when for decades of the Cold War and two sides jerking the pendulum back and forth ... when they finally can't hang on and the damn thing swings sideways ?

I look forward to finding out.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (E0n90)

49 Heh, the Left is being overwhelmed by an ascending proletariat.

Posted by: davidt at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (i0F8b)

50 Honestly...

I wish the fucking pendulum would stop swinging.

The thing that's fucked up with the world is that fucking pendulum.

Just sit there in the middle.

Posted by: Gene Siskel at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (fV+MH)

51 I've got this idea for a movie where I put 3 penguins in a room and it eventually get so fouled with poop you can't even see what is going on.
Posted by: fd

Mr. fd, have you noticed all the defamation suits being waged and won for big dollars. Just how thick is your wallet?

Posted by: Penguin Defense Fund 501c3 at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (G5+As)

52 What I'd like to see is a serious push back against Communism, making it an evil word and getting people to be ashamed to admit it. Being an open communist should be death to your political career.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (2VST1)

53 I am glad they moved the Inauguration ceremony indoor.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (g47mK)

54 33 Before moving on, did our 'huge victory' just turn into a minor inconvenience with the settlement? $5M seems like nothing.

That's just the compensatory/damages part of the equation. The second part of the trial to determine punitive damages is starting next week.

That check will have more Zeros than Yamamoto had at Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (tOso8)

55 *indoors

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (g47mK)

56 Did they drop another 2k+ commutations today?

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (snN/i)
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It was part of the I Am Jesus order.

He set all captives free.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (krQz2)

57 Gene Siskel is a very insightful person. I must say.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (fV+MH)

58 In before "swing of the pendulum".
Posted by: Bert G

England swings like a pendulum do

Posted by: Miklos notes Farage seems to be doing well at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (xesY+)

59 I wish I was in DC this weekend. I bet it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (LkLld)

60 I think I saw that Biden's total college loan forgiveness is at $169 B so far

Posted by: DanMan at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (8uzBS)

61 Meh. I’d like to see the Left fucked in the pooper with a flaming hot serrated Satan cock dripping with acid and skunk stench. But I’ve been around long enough to see several rounds of “X Party is dead!” only to see X Party rise from the dead like Jason Vorhees. Things go in cycles. Leftism will be back, as it has on and off for 100 fucking years.

Posted by: Elric Blade at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (Nzc3e)

62 " I am glad they moved the Inauguration ceremony indoor.
Posted by: runner"

I very agree.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (fV+MH)

63
ohlolololol...

President Trump names Skylvester Skallonke, Jon Voigt, and Mel Gibson to "fix" "troubled" Hollywood.

I have no idea how they will do this, or even where they'll start. But have you seen Mel Gibson lately? He looks...insane. He's smiling a lot, which is nice, but it makes him look, well, crazier than a shithouse rat.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (MsCOV)

64 Before moving on, did our 'huge victory' just turn into a minor inconvenience with the settlement? $5M seems like nothing.
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Indeed. No satisfying crushing sound.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (krQz2)

65 Your honors I submit all these videos of Joe Biden to quantify the proposal to nullify every executive order signed by him while President.

-Special council arguing at SCOTUS

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (jQ+5q)

66 Hakeem Jeffries just smeared all K-12 boys as “predators” in response to bill that will have trans girls not playing on girls sports teams. He said this “unleashes predators.”

Yeah, no, parents do not accept that bigoted framing.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (Hkcdp)
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They're really screwed. They want to use the language of victimhood, but they're saying that girls should just accept guys waving their dicks in the girls' locker room.

You can't warn of "rape culture" when you are creating actual rape culture. People figure it out.

But that chicken isn't done getting humped, is it?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (ZOv7s)

67 10 Heard Chris Plante say that Biden exits office with the worst approval rating ever recorded since they started to record such things.

Mid 60s % thinks Biden's presidency was not worth it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

In 2020, everyone having at least half of a brain knew Biden would be a horrible President. He then exceeded their expectation of how horrible a President Biden could be. History cannot be hard enough on Decrepit Joe's political 'career.'

Posted by: Gref at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (aBgBM)

68 Re: Poll worker triple scanning ballots — this is why they need motor voter and refuse to clear the voter rolls. If they’ve inflated the number of registered voters then they can triple scan without going over 100% votes expected.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (Hkcdp)

69 " Just how thick is your wallet?
Posted by: Penguin Defense Fund 501c3"

Not very, but it's made out of genuine penguin skin.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (vFG9F)

70 After Donald Trump's inauguration, will there be hair-pulling and loud cursing at school board meetings?

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (rj6Yv)

71 I’m just hoping that Trump remembers to change the toilet seats and mattresses. Also, to bleach the showers. Maybe throw out the glassware and utensils.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (fR05s)

72 The Paolo is, how you say, used to pendulum swinging back and forth.

Posted by: The Paolo at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (G5+As)

73 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:40 PM (ZOv7s)

__________________________

Young wanted his reputation back. Settling wouldn't have done so with finality. A verdict of malicious intent is hard argue with. A number of his potential clients are media (pulling reporters out of war zones), so sticking it to CNN sits well with their competitors. Next, he'll get that security clearance back. And, he'll be back in business.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (dIske)

74 I don't like Pyrrhic victories, I want pain. Conan level to start.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (4780s)

75
Hey! All y'all are cordially invited to swing by Lilly and Joey's beach place in Rehoboth Beach starting next Friday evening for a boffo beach party weekend! Definitely plan to arise early on Sunday morning for a sunrise stroll to Biden Falls -- it's beautiful this time of year!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (xG4kz)

76 I prefer "Swing of the Axe".

Posted by: Power Trip at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (azSra)

77 The money was gravy.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

5 mil would buy a lotta gravy

I would probably spend most on booze, coke, and hookers, and waste the rest.

Posted by: Miklos has Priorities at January 17, 2025 05:45 PM (xesY+)

78 Gen X is becoming ascendant. By far the most conservative American demographic.

I am Gen X. I think I'm one of the loudest Gen X people here.

I think we're the most color-blind. And also the most results oriented. And the least ideological. We just want shit to work.

I don't know what to call us. I know we still get told to shut up a bunch. But we just tell the old fuckers shut up right back.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:45 PM (E0n90)

79 I said from the start Biden would be a disaster, and I'm far from a genus.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:45 PM (vFG9F)

80 Meh. I’d like to see the Left fucked in the pooper with a flaming hot serrated Satan cock dripping with acid and skunk stench. But I’ve been around long enough to see several rounds of “X Party is dead!” only to see X Party rise from the dead like Jason Vorhees. Things go in cycles. Leftism will be back, as it has on and off for 100 fucking years.
Posted by: Elric Blade at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (Nzc3e)
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That's because it is an ancient heresy. It is evil. It goes by many names and it will come back. It will keep coming back.

And then God will win.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:45 PM (ZOv7s)

81 And who is going to want to sit in Rachel “the man in a dress” Levine’s chair. Burn that sucker.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2025 05:45 PM (fR05s)

82 The progs introduced a brand of Hegelianism into American politics in the early 20th century.

They've long been mad because the cycle has been trying to move against them for decades.

Imagine that?

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:46 PM (krQz2)

83 Hakeem Jeffries just smeared all K-12 boys as “predators” in response to bill that will have trans girls not playing on girls sports teams. He said this “unleashes predators.”
______________

Remind me again, what demographic features the most predators? Hmmm, "Hakeem?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:46 PM (YqDXo)

84 I have no idea how they will do this, or even where they'll start. But have you seen Mel Gibson lately? He looks...insane. He's smiling a lot, which is nice, but it makes him look, well, crazier than a shithouse rat.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I'm seeing no down side to that appearance.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2025 05:46 PM (WXNFJ)

85 “ To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.”

1 Corinthians 9:22

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2025 05:46 PM (fR05s)

86 Joe still has time to write a new constitution.
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Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 17, 2025 05:47 PM (5LoD7)

87 They were the Israelites!

Posted by: The Hooters at January 17, 2025 05:47 PM (azSra)

88 "The trend is up. There is no real reason to expect that it will stop anytime soon," Prof. Matthijs Rooduijn, a political scientist from the University of Amsterdam

"Trust me, I'm a political scientist".

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2025 05:47 PM (D9hgC)

89 I don't like Pyrrhic victories, I want pain. Conan level to start.
Posted by: From about That Time at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (4780s)
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His enemies were crushed. CNN was found to have committed defamation and owes the guy $5 million.

The second part - the punitive portion - was settled. Likely for even more money.

This is an epic win.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:47 PM (ZOv7s)

90 Trump, who will be inaugurated on Monday, secured the popular vote with 77 million votes compared to the 75 million his Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, raked in.

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I wonder how much cheat is in there?

California alone probably manufactured at least 5 million -- especially in the month following the election ... allowing them to steal a number of House seats.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:47 PM (8cTjv)

91 Many boomers fell off during the shmandemic, retired and what not. So obviously the next generation is now ascendant. Good thing they grew up on Ronald Reagan!

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:48 PM (g47mK)

92
Just more selective in it's support, not wanting white cis-toxics around making progressives less comfortable at the city burnings.

Posted by: Auspex at January 17, 2025 05:48 PM (j4U/Z)

93 I am wondering if a lot of the loss of votes in the left comes from the left abandoning economics and class focus in favor of identity and niche politics of the global elite class.

Making voters miserable for Ukrainian wars, endless migrants making social services and society visibly and measurably worse, calling those disagreeing as fascists and putting them in jail, and impoverishing the citizenry via non existent green energy bloviation, is not popular.

Zombie FDR himself could not run and win under such a platform and he was a scummy and talented a liar as there ever was in politics.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:48 PM (ctrM5)

94 What I'd like to see is a serious push back against Communism, making it an evil word and getting people to be ashamed to admit it. Being an open communist should be death to your political career.

You mean like the stuff where everyone is guaranteed something ? That's Communist. Or do you mean Socialist ? Like everyone contributing to one collective pot, that the Government holds, and then promises to dole out to each accord to their needs ?

This country, for my entire life, has been a psychotic mix between Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:48 PM (E0n90)

95 Imagine how much lower the leftist numbers would be without their lap dog media.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM

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Imagine how much lower they'd be without their overrepresentation in the world's remaining one-party states.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (amTrm)

96
President Trump names Skylvester Skallonke, Jon Voigt, and Mel Gibson to "fix" "troubled" Hollywood.

Just drop it, sir.

Let Hollywood stew in its own juices for a good long time. It already is festering -- let it lance its own boils.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (xG4kz)

97 California should lose statehood.

I mean that.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (fV+MH)

98 I think we're the most color-blind. And also the most results oriented. And the least ideological. We just want shit to work.

I don't know what to call us. I know we still get told to shut up a bunch. But we just tell the old fuckers shut up right back.
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:45 PM (E0n90)
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For the first time, Gen X outnumbers the Boomers, and it was because of this that Trump got elected. The Boomers broke slightly for Kamala; Gen X went for Trump by 10 points. The other demos were narrowly split.

You're welcome, Western Civilization.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (ZOv7s)

99
The second part - the punitive portion - was settled. Likely for even more money.

Really????

Last I heard (a few hours ago, but then I've been away from TV/Computer/etc) was that the punitive trial was about to start.

I wonder how much he's gonna get.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (tOso8)

100 Merrick Garland has left the DOJ for the final time.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (LkLld)

101 I prefer "Swing of the Axe".

Posted by: Power Trip at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM
(azSra)
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https://youtu.be/edxWlUBpf7E?t=90

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:49 PM (krQz2)

102 I'm sure our betters will will set the record straight on all that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2025 05:50 PM (Q4IgG)

103 What I'd like to see is a serious push back against Communism, making it an evil word and getting people to be ashamed to admit it. Being an open communist should be death to your political career.
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And I'd like its more "polite" version (Socialism) be met with the same scorn.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 05:50 PM (azSra)

104 Does Congress really need to pass a law clarifying that sending out a tweet does not a law make, nor an amendment make ? Or having it spelled out Constitutionally is enough ?

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:50 PM (g47mK)

105 And about the Plessy v. Ferguson business....

Brown v. Board of Education....

OVERTURNED

Dr. Jill is a DOCTOR and says the Board of Education is always EXPERTS

Posted by: Miklos quotes five minutes in the Future at January 17, 2025 05:50 PM (xesY+)

106 >>>Being an open communist should be death to your political career.

You had me at "being an open communist should be death . . . ."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (i24o9)

107 Merrick Garland has left the DOJ for the final time.

I'd like to see him come back one more time. This time frog-marched in wearing cuffs.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (tOso8)

108 update: CNN settles with Young.

Posted by: ace at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (KRtlO)

109 Until we start running commies through woodchippers on PBS TV, the left is not hated enough.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (S1XLH)

110 Oh ok I dint know there was ever a flattering one.
Those Hoft Brothers are mean..

Barack Obama Posts Unflattering Photo of Michelle Amid Divorce Rumors

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (jQ+5q)

111 >>You're welcome, Western Civilization.

Donald Trump IS a Boomer.

You're welcome.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (LkLld)

112 You mean like the stuff where everyone is guaranteed something? That's Communist.

Posted by: What Willl We Do
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The kulaks would beg to differ, unless you mean guaranteed a bullet in the head or death by starvation.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 05:52 PM (Dm8we)

113 Merrick Garland has left the DOJ for the final time.
Posted by: JackStraw

Several Indictments would be a Lovely Parting Gift

Posted by: Miklos in best Lovely Carol Merrill attire (oops) at January 17, 2025 05:52 PM (xesY+)

114 His enemies were crushed. CNN was found to have committed defamation and owes the guy $5 million.

The second part - the punitive portion - was settled. Likely for even more money.

This is an epic win.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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AND likely there will be more lawsuits to come. Just like reverse discrimination suits for whites and males. Once victories start piling up, trial lawyers take notice and start filing suits that they would have discouraged before.

I think Big Pharma is a fat vulnerable target that has basically only its bought allies at this point to defend itself from the enraged public and legislators.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:52 PM (ctrM5)

115 Starting with the USA, what's really going on? It can't be just a fear of a Republican Trump, there has to be some other dark secret or fears. Is it the Diddy or the Epstein list or both or something darker?
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Looking at the world, I can't figure out what undercurrents are flowing that are making leaders 'change' their spots overnight. Is Trump calling each one and "Here's a sploddy nuke for you", and "Here's a sploddy nuke for you", and "Here's a sploddy nuke for you" ........ or similar scenarios?

Posted by: Ciampino - should ask somebody at January 17, 2025 05:53 PM (i0xsb)

116 Many boomers fell off during the shmandemic, retired and what not. So obviously the next generation is now ascendant. Good thing they grew up on Ronald Reagan!
Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:48 PM (g47mK)
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Yeah, and we remember comedians like Richard Pryor who could make fun of race, and Don Rickles, who was an equal-opportunity bigot.

I am so epically sick of being told that it's still Selma 1963. That shit is old and done. And yeah, my dumbass liberal college town actually tried to do the whole "Now is the first time we are seeing minority representation" when my graduating class was all minorities and girls. White guys had better things to do.

The gaslighting may work on guilty Boomers or clueless Zoomers, but Gen X was there and is sick of being the scapegoat for everyone else's insecurities and/or political opportunism.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:53 PM (ZOv7s)

117 " >>You're welcome, Western Civilization.

Donald Trump IS a Boomer.

You're welcome.
Posted by: JackStraw"

Ok boomer.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:53 PM (fV+MH)

118 Merrick Garland has left the DOJ for the final time.

I'd like to see him come back one more time. This time frog-marched in wearing cuffs.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (tOso

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Hoard-mind.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:53 PM (krQz2)

119 Donald Trump IS a Boomer.

Only in the sense that ICBM nuke subs are called "Boomers".

Posted by: Miklos adds context at January 17, 2025 05:53 PM (xesY+)

120 NY Post - Trump demands Eff Bee Eye corrupt shuttered DIE office retain all records as critics call for national security focus

I wouldn't doubt they are shredding everything printed in the last 4 years

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2025 05:54 PM (fwDg9)

121 59 I wish I was in DC this weekend. I bet it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (LkLld)
________________

One of my baseball buddies is there for the Inauguration. I'm envious as hell!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:54 PM (YqDXo)

122 President Trump names Skylvester Skallonke, Jon Voigt, and Mel Gibson to "fix" "troubled" Hollywood.

I have no idea how they will do this, or even where they'll start. But have you seen Mel Gibson lately? He looks...insane. He's smiling a lot, which is nice, but it makes him look, well, crazier than a shithouse rat.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2025 05:43 PM (MsCOV)

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Trump should create and build a big beautiful movie studio -- but not in California. Maybe Florida or Texas ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:54 PM (8cTjv)

123
Barack Obama Posts Unflattering Photo of Michelle Amid Divorce Rumors

Big Mike in a Diaphanous Gown, Backlit by Moonlight, With a Ginormous Trouser Snake Dangling Between Her Legs?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:54 PM (xG4kz)

124 Merrick Garland has left the DOJ for the final time.
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On a stretcher?

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 05:54 PM (azSra)

125 Tighter borders. More law and order. Less cheap labor.
Posted by: What Willl We Do

And that's not to like how?

Posted by: MkY at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (cPGH3)

126 And I'd like its more "polite" version (Socialism) be met with the same scorn.

OK ... in a vacuum, I agree.

But we don't live in one. So what do you call it when certain corporations - Big This or That or Whatever - get government protections ? We can't sue Pfizer, after all, over this damn shot.

What do you call it when we're demanded to buy insurance ?

We live in Socialism. A unity of Industry and State not seen since WW II.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (E0n90)

127 I think we're the most color-blind. And also the most results oriented. And the least ideological. We just want shit to work.

Also, a lot of us had boomer older siblings who were such knuckleheads and so annoying we were determined not to go there and support anything like that. Their hippie crap was annoying as hell, which is why people in high school from around 1980-1986 looked and acted more Alex Keaton than Meathead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (2VST1)

128 109 Until we start running commies through woodchippers on PBS TV, the left is not hated enough.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (S1XLH)

I'm glad you mention wood chippers. With the new golden age on the horizon manufacturing is slated to make a YUGE comeback.
Im developing a front mounted wood chipper with snow plow scoops as a bolt on option to drive through crowds of protestors. Ima call it The Donkey Chomper

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (jQ+5q)

129 Don't get your Depends in an uproar, Jack; I've just declared myself supreme hokyfenokie of the entire universe via the 48th Amendment to the Confabulation of the Untitled Stats.
Right now, I'm drinking my milkshake! And I'm standing up! Boy, I loved that movie. Anyway, everything good is mandatory and everything bad is prohibited. And I've declared war on Botswana. Those banana shovers have been asking for it.

Posted by: Joe Biden, wearing nothing but backwards Underoos and a stovetop espresso pot on his head. at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (Ft5W9)

130 Should clarify: graduating class officers, as well as student government. Women had an absolute majority, but no, glass ceiling.

After St. George Floyd's martyrdom, our city council broke out the sackcloth and ashes until one of them pointed out that there had never been segregation in this town, the University had black students for more than 100 years and - get this - we're super progressive, so shut up already.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (ZOv7s)

131 >>Ok boomer.

That's Mr. Boomer.

Now get off my lawn.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (LkLld)

132 Just like the left didn't care if Trump got any time, they celebrated the conviction; we can celebrate the official legal determination that CNN, and the rest by proxy, are indeed fake news.

Posted by: Roberto at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (pu4/y)

133 Barack Obama Posts Unflattering Photo of Michelle Amid Divorce Rumors

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he can do so much better !

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)

134
Yeah, but, like, sick burn when we burn everything down on the way out the door Monday morning, fascists!

Posted by: Auspex at January 17, 2025 05:56 PM (j4U/Z)

135 And now Janet Yellen is gone.

Our long national nightmare is almost over.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:56 PM (LkLld)

136 Barack Obama Posts Unflattering Photo of Michelle Amid Divorce Rumors

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he can do so much better !

Who, Big Mike?

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 05:56 PM (tOso8)

137 >>Ok boomer.

That's Mr. Boomer.

Now get off my lawn.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:55 PM (LkLld)

Shouldn't you be napping in the easy chair, Gramps?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (i24o9)

138 >Being an open communist should be death to your political career.
_________________

I think we're already there. Notice how the Reds now bill themselves a democratic socialists.

They're commies, but reluctant to admit it in public.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (YqDXo)

139 I think Don Jr. current girlfriend should move on to Barack!

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (g47mK)

140 Trump should create and build a big beautiful movie studio -- but not in California. Maybe Florida or Texas ...

If I had his money, I would dump a sizeable amount into making it easier for regular folks to make and distribute movies. Make resources and infrastructure more broadly available. Make distribution and publicity something you and I can tap into rather than keeping it locked into the studio system.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (2VST1)

141 I wonder how much cheat is in there?

California alone probably manufactured at least 5 million -- especially in the month following the election ... allowing them to steal a number of House seats.
Posted by: ShainS

Using Obama as a baseline in 2008, my estimate was probably about 10-12 million ballots for Kamala were fake, illegal voters, nonexistent but counted, or bought (cash for a blank ballot).

The Dems in a non lockdown and reversion to traditional voting, simply could not get the additional 5 million cheats in key swing states that they got Joey Paste Eater in 2020 without exceeding the total population of voters this time.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (ctrM5)

142 I think Big Pharma is a fat vulnerable target that has basically only its bought allies at this point to defend itself from the enraged public and legislators.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:52 PM (ctrM5)
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I can't wait for the Dems to start defending them as providing needed medicine.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (ZOv7s)

143 Communist...people it is Socialism that you really need to be afraid of.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 05:57 PM (g47mK)

144 My problem with AOC is that her face has weird bone structure. She has two loosening slabs of muscle turning to fat for cheeks - you can already see them leaving a trench under her eyes. I just can't look at her without experiencing physical pain.

Posted by: Oglebay at January 17, 2025 05:58 PM (ogTiX)

145 " >>Ok boomer.

That's Mr. Boomer.

Now get off my lawn.
Posted by: JackStraw"

Hah. I was aborned in '64

Which makes both a boomer and a Xer.

So I can take credit for either or scorn either.

Depending.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:58 PM (fV+MH)

146 "For the first time, Gen X outnumbers the Boomers, and it was because of this that Trump got elected. The Boomers broke slightly for Kamala; Gen X went for Trump by 10 points. The other demos were narrowly split."
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I hope that GenX Stat holds true. But in my family of ten siblings the boomers were all for Trump but our 2 younger GenXers are stupid liberals.

Posted by: Cosda at January 17, 2025 05:58 PM (t44VK)

147 >>Ok boomer.
_________________

Holster the insults until and unless you can drive a stick shift and change a tire.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:58 PM (YqDXo)

148 . Being an open communist should be death to your political career.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (2VST1)

You could have stopped at "death".

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (VwHCD)

149 Didn’t the Covington Catholic kid also sue CNN? Or was that a different network?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (FGFJD)

150 >>> One of my baseball buddies is there for the Inauguration. I'm envious as hell!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:54 PM (YqDXo)

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Did you play college ball (or higher) somewhere?

Posted by: Turn 2 at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (NbP1V)

151 >President Trump names Skylvester Skallonke, Jon Voigt, and Mel Gibson to "fix" "troubled" Hollywood.

I have no idea how they will do this, or even where they'll start.

I think they will start by encouraging other closeted conservatives to come out

Posted by: at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (AOsQT)

152 Big Mike in a Diaphanous Gown, Backlit by Moonlight, With a Ginormous Trouser Snake Dangling Between Her Legs?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:54

Nah just both sitting all alone at the dining room table on Mooches birthday. Mooch was wearing an aunt Jemima Doo Rag and a plain dark blue sweat suit.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (jQ+5q)

153 He was awarded $5 million in actual damages, and asked for $1 billion at the start.

So we can say for certain that the amount was between $5 million and $1 billion.

My gut says its around $20-30 million.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (lCHt6)

154 Well, sure.

In the boomer times, you had hot (if smelly) chicks loudly propounding the virtues of communism. Of course dudes went along with it.

Now, all young people are dead-eyed nihilists. Ideology doesn't work anymore.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (BI5O2)

155 Janet Yellin resigns

"Guys-this is our chance! Nobody home, we loot the entire US Treasury!"

"But Boss, we scoped the placed out. Nothing but piles of IOUs"

Posted by: Miklos imagines a perfectly spherical Janet Yellin (pretty easy) at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (xesY+)

156 Not that I follow this stuff, but I kinda recall that even during the good old days of their marriage , Barack complained that Michelle was always sooooo negative.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (g47mK)

157 Did you play college ball (or higher) somewhere?

Posted by: Turn 2 at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (NbP1V)
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Yes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (YqDXo)

158 "Holster the insults until and unless you can drive a stick shift and change a tire.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara"

My first car was a 69 VW bug, and I changed all the things.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (fV+MH)

159 The gaslighting may work on guilty Boomers or clueless Zoomers, but Gen X was there and is sick of being the scapegoat for everyone else's insecurities and/or political opportunism.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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The latchkey generation that raised itself. Fast Times, based on a true story, is pretty much a documentary.

And about 10-15 million less numerous than the Baby Boomers due to abortion laws being liberalized. I went to high school where some girls treated abortions as birth control.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (ctrM5)

160 Yeah, due to the NDA you're gonna have no clue how much I banged them for.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to give Burger Yachts hell. I'm pretty sure that the 24 karat gold hot tubs on the bow and stern of my new yacht will balance each other out, and still leave room for the helipad and go kart track.

Posted by: Zac Young, Lighting a Celebratory Cigar With a 100 dollar bill at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (Ft5W9)

161 "Class Action" wasn't a great movie, but there's a line in the end after damning evidence comes to light shattering the whole mega-corporation's defense, and the CEO (chief counsel?) is begging the plaintiff's lead attorney (Gene Hackman) for a settlement while in the judge's chambers, going up to even the original ask of the lawsuit. Hackman smiles and doesn't answer and the guy yells "What'll it take (to settle)??!" And Hackman replies with a sh*t-eating grin, "Bottom line: you can't count that high." Boy, would've been nice if Young had done the same here...

Posted by: bearski at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (Bhsk7)

162 Donald Trump IS a Boomer.

You're welcome.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (LkLld)
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Trump is a renegade, and despised by his contemporaries.

Again, compare his Gen X nominees to the stuffy, useless Boomers from his first term.

Latchkey kids are feral, vicious, and pitiless. Norms? Yeah, no. I'm happy to see "retard" return to the lexicon, because there is so much retarded shit going on right now.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)

163 Big Mike is looking a little rough in that photo....

Maybe put on some pounds ???

Posted by: Franklin Stein at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (A2iSa)

164 I contend that, if actual votes were counted honestly, the left hasn't been a majority ever, in any city nor state.
Look at the Pendergast Machine era in KCMo. Nothing has changed in Kansas City in almost 100 years.
Tammany Hall in NYC. Chicago.
These are all blueprint machines that work, and have worked. Lose the steal, and lefties don't win nuthin'!

Posted by: MkY at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (cPGH3)

165 Janet Yellin resigns

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it was that or getting fired in two days

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (g47mK)

166 Holster the insults until and unless you can drive a stick shift and change a tire.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

And treat yer own snake bite

Posted by: Curmudgeonly Miklos at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM (xesY+)

167 Hah. I was aborned in '64

Which makes both a boomer and a Xer.

So I can take credit for either or scorn either.

Depending.
Posted by: eleven
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Well played.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:02 PM (ctrM5)

168 >>> Big Mike in a Diaphanous Gown, Backlit by Moonlight, With a Ginormous Trouser Snake Dangling Between Her Legs?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:54

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"Diaphanous"? Sounds like a word a boomer might say. Hmmm?

Posted by: Turn 2 at January 17, 2025 06:02 PM (NbP1V)

169 Now, all young people are dead-eyed nihilists. Ideology doesn't work anymore.

I cannot work out what Zoomers really want or are excited by. They seem disinterested in everything: they don't drive, they don't watch movies, they don't watch TV. They don't seem to care about ANYTHING, even more so than Gen X which was apathetic. The only thing they seem to like are memes and manga. And that, barely.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 06:02 PM (2VST1)

170 Do you might if we dance with yours dates ???????????

Posted by: Big Mike at Barry's Second Inauguration at January 17, 2025 06:02 PM (Gurs5)

171 165 Janet Yellin resigns

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it was that or getting fired in two days
Posted by: runner
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They shot Ole Yellin? Was it Rabies?

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:02 PM (ctrM5)

172 Not that I follow this stuff, but I kinda recall that even during the good old days of their marriage , Barack complained that Michelle was always sooooo negative.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (g47mK)

I think Barry is queer as a two dollar bill, and Michelle hates white people. Yet - and my opinion will ruffle some and I don't care - you can see Barry genuinely enjoying Warren Hayes from Government Mule and Trucks and Tedeschi playing some really good old blues songs.

He's not totally awful. Shouldn't be in charge of anything. But not worth hanging. He's better than Carter. He doesn't hate me - he's just fucking wrong to the core.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:03 PM (E0n90)

173 Barack Obama Posts Unflattering Photo of Michelle Amid Divorce Rumors
Big Mike in a Diaphanous Gown, Backlit by Moonlight, With a Ginormous Trouser Snake Dangling Between Her Legs?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Speaking of pendulums swinging...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 17, 2025 06:03 PM (eDL7B)

174
Not that I follow this stuff, but I kinda recall that even during the good old days of their marriage , Barack complained that Michelle was always sooooo negative.
Posted by: runner

Her resting bitch face was the tell, dummy.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 06:03 PM (xG4kz)

175 Hah. I was aborned in '64

Which makes both a boomer and a Xer.

So I can take credit for either or scorn either.

Depending.
Posted by: eleven
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If I could do math here, I might be able to prove that that year does not sound like you're only 29.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 06:03 PM (krQz2)

176 Hope CNN is forced t settle for mid 9 figures.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 17, 2025 06:03 PM (17s+e)

177 Now, all young people are dead-eyed nihilists. Ideology doesn't work anymore.

I cannot work out what Zoomers really want or are excited by. They seem disinterested in everything: they don't drive, they don't watch movies, they don't watch TV. They don't seem to care about ANYTHING, even more so than Gen X which was apathetic. The only thing they seem to like are memes and manga. And that, barely.
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That's the end result of nihilsm. When one doesn't believe in anything, one doesn't have anything to give them *hope*. Without hope, there is little reason to act.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 06:04 PM (azSra)

178 I'm guessing CNN's checkbook is starting to look a lot like mine did, first year outta college...

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (tOso8)

179 Gol Dang everybody quitting and changing their stories and dissolving companies and departments of government?
They must be glues to the confirmation hearings.
Pam Bondi put a chill up their spine.. VIA Maddow

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (jQ+5q)

180 They're dead-eyed eyed nihilists because it makes sense. I don't like it, but I get it. What else are they supposed to be?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (BI5O2)

181 C'mon, man! It's dangerous to drive around with a dirty windshield!

Posted by: Jake Tapper Standing at an Intersection Holding a Stolen Gas Station Window Squeegee at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (Ft5W9)

182 I'd make Tapper firing part of settlement

Posted by: Dagny at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (slJFB)

183 Was wondering how many without a pardon are sweating out this last weekend hoping Sundowner hasn't forgotten them.

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (fwDg9)

184 even during the good old days of their marriage , Barack complained that Michelle was always sooooo negative.

Boy, you couldn't see that coming from her face at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (2VST1)

185 "If I could do math here, I might be able to prove that that year does not sound like you're only 29.
Posted by: Axeman"

I'm 29 to the power of i

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (fV+MH)

186 I'm happy the CNN case settled. I'm sure it's enough money to make the plaintiff happy, which is what is most important. It would have been nice for a big, public fuck you to CNN, but the plaintiff now doesn't have to worry about appeal after appeal, and can put the moolah in the bank. Good for him.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at January 17, 2025 06:06 PM (bNf8H)

187 I think Barry is queer as a two dollar bill, and Michelle hates white people. Yet - and my opinion will ruffle some and I don't care - you can see Barry genuinely enjoying Warren Hayes from Government Mule and Trucks and Tedeschi playing some really good old blues songs.

He's not totally awful. Shouldn't be in charge of anything. But not worth hanging. He's better than Carter. He doesn't hate me - he's just fucking wrong to the core.
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No Kenyan Muslim should have ever been allowed to run for President. And while in office, he was a condescending prick.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 06:06 PM (azSra)

188 Holster the insults until and unless you can drive a stick shift and change a tire.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

And treat yer own snake bite
Posted by: Curmudgeonly Miklos at January 17, 2025 06:01 PM

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You want more party-line stories? This is how you get more party-line stories?

Posted by: Guy who grew up with a dial phone at January 17, 2025 06:06 PM (amTrm)

189 I cannot work out what Zoomers really want or are excited by. They seem disinterested in everything: they don't drive, they don't watch movies, they don't watch TV. They don't seem to care about ANYTHING, even more so than Gen X which was apathetic. The only thing they seem to like are memes and manga. And that, barely.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Similar to the late Soviet period (and apparently now a thing in Japan (males) and China (laying down).

Lots of people ended up drinking themselves to death via alcohol in the dying Soviet Union and early restored Republic. IN our country, it is od'ing on a variety of drugs. Japan, just not propagating, and China, no hope of starting a family because Xi is killing the Chinese capitalistic model in return for personal and party control.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:06 PM (ctrM5)

190 The most dangerous place in the world is between Michaelle and the Taco Bar.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 17, 2025 06:07 PM (17s+e)

191 They don't seem to care about ANYTHING, even more so than Gen X which was apathetic.

Heh. I'm proudly Gen X. We were awful, according to Boomers. We didn't care about "the important stuff". Just good jobs and getting a house.

I'll continue to say it - we're in the last death throws of the Most Self Important Generation. One thing is for sure - we don't go out and show our asses nearly as much as our smarter elders. Maybe for the first time ever in modern history.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:07 PM (E0n90)

192 The latchkey generation that raised itself. Fast Times, based on a true story, is pretty much a documentary.

And about 10-15 million less numerous than the Baby Boomers due to abortion laws being liberalized. I went to high school where some girls treated abortions as birth control.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:00 PM (ctrM5)
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"Look, we're going up to the cabin. Be back by midweek. Food in the fridge, here's $20 if you need anything."

That was high school for a lot of us.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:07 PM (ZOv7s)

193 Don't kid yourself, he hates white people, and talented people in general. They all mellow out after they leave office, but he is still and ass...who needs a new flame.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 06:08 PM (g47mK)

194 It won't last, look at the UK. The Liberals were dead as a party, utterly hopeless and out of power four years ago. Now they are in charge. It goes in cycles, but it does look like the culture is pushing back against the crazy extremes of the left. And that's good news, at least a little.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (2VST1)

Labor LOST votes in the last election. They got more seats because of a corrupt bargain with the other parties not called Reform, and the electorate wanting to punish the Tories for betraying them. So the utter collapse of the Tories was what was important.

And Labor, with Southport Murders and Rape Gang Coverup is in tatters already,

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:08 PM (n7h9X)

195 Revenge is a dish best served cold, cooked well-done, slathered with ketchup, with a Diet Coke on the side!

Posted by: Donald J. Trump at January 17, 2025 06:08 PM (Ft5W9)

196 Young people are dead-eyed from permanent immersion in the net.

Some are not.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:08 PM (fV+MH)

197 =====
No Kenyan Muslim should have ever been allowed to run for President. And while in office, he was a condescending prick.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 06:06 PM (azSra)

This! He seriously mastered that mussolini looking down his nose thing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 06:09 PM (VwHCD)

198 "Look, we're going up to the cabin. Be back by midweek. Food in the fridge, here's $20 if you need anything."

That was high school for a lot of us.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

OMG, you were living with us and I didn't even notice?

Posted by: Auspex at January 17, 2025 06:10 PM (j4U/Z)

199 No Kenyan Muslim should have ever been allowed to run for President. And while in office, he was a condescending prick.

Fair. But if my choices are Trump, Biden, Obama, "W", Clinton, Bush, and Reagan, or Carter to have a beer with >

Clinton
Obama

Check please.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:10 PM (E0n90)

200 Where is the picture of Michelle in the Black dress ???

Posted by: Buster Hymandd at January 17, 2025 06:10 PM (u10wd)

201 you can see Barry genuinely enjoying Warren Hayes from Government Mule and Trucks and Tedeschi playing some really good old blues songs.

Nah, he would pretend to hate it and want to hear some hip hop band. Seriously, he poses worse than even normal politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 06:11 PM (2VST1)

202 Revenge is a dish best served cold, cooked well-done, slathered with ketchup, with a Diet Coke on the side!

Posted by: Donald J. Trump at January 17, 2025 06:08 PM (Ft5W9)

Served in two scoops.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 06:11 PM (i24o9)

203 "Don't kid yourself, he hates white people, and talented people in general. They all mellow out after they leave office, but he is still and ass...who needs a new flame.
Posted by: runner"

The progs do seem to despise talent more than anything.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:11 PM (fV+MH)

204 "Look, we're going up to the cabin. Be back by midweek. Food in the fridge, here's $20 if you need anything."

That was high school for a lot of us.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Same for me. All my friends worked as soon as they were able--pizza making and delivery, restaurants, grocery jobs stocking shelves, stringer at the local paper, and so on. Had to work so you could afford a car and upkeep of it.

If you were lucky, it was not a worn out AMC Pacer or Pinto.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

205 They're dead-eyed eyed nihilists because it makes sense. I don't like it, but I get it. What else are they supposed to be?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 17, 2025 06:05 PM (BI5O2)
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Zoomers are just lost. Between the lockdowns and the collapse of society norms, they're wandering around trying to find something to believe in.

Lots are returning to the old faiths. Our parish is seeing lots of young families right now, and the head coverings are returning. You see this is the demand for the TLM and also the fact that vocations are really picking up. Lots of religious sisters these days, and priestly vocations are doing very well.

Communism is a heresy, one that turns envy into a virtue. Note also how pride is celebrated rather than condemned.

But the tide has changed. We all feel it.

Even the California fires are part of that. Reports are already coming in of miraculous events. The media won't cover it, but it's happening. God is not asleep.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (ZOv7s)

206 Young people are dead-eyed from permanent immersion in the net.

Some are not.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:08 PM (fV+MH)

Everything is politicized. I can't blame them for finding no joy in any of it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (i24o9)

207 "Look, we're going up to the cabin. Be back by midweek. Food in the fridge, here's $20 if you need anything."

That was high school for a lot of us.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:07 PM (ZOv7s)

In my case it was "we're going down the shore". To be fair though, they didn't do that until I was 15-16, and I was thrilled to actually see my father the workaholic take some time off and have fun. Having the house to myself was also a major bonus. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (VwHCD)

208 "Fair. But if my choices are Trump, Biden, Obama, "W", Clinton, Bush, and Reagan, or Carter to have a beer with >"

Well Trump doesn't drink but I wouldn't mind having a Diet Coke with him.

Posted by: Tuna at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (oaGWv)

209 Another thought to warm your heart and bring good cheer:

HILARY CLINTON WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (17s+e)

210 155 Janet Yellin resigns

"Guys-this is our chance! Nobody home, we loot the entire US Treasury!"

"But Boss, we scoped the placed out. Nothing but piles of IOUs"

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Those IOUs are as good as money.

Posted by: Lloyd Christmas at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (sZO0q)

211 "Look, we're going up to the cabin. Be back by midweek. Food in the fridge, here's $20 if you need anything."

That was high school for a lot of us.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed
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Boomer here. Dad worked 8-5. Mom worked 3-11. Home from school. Watch the younger kids. Make supper. Not all boomers lived the Leave it to Beaver lifestyle.

Posted by: Cosda at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (t44VK)

212 33 Before moving on, did our 'huge victory' just turn into a minor inconvenience with the settlement? $5M seems like nothing.

That's just the compensatory/damages part of the equation. The second part of the trial to determine punitive damages is starting next week.

That check will have more Zeros than Yamamoto had at Pearl Harbor.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (tOso

No, CNN settled . The cash payout is whatever the defendant wanted, since they failed so badly,

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:13 PM (n7h9X)

213 A lot of folks have said this but I remember a column/book by Ann Coulter saying the left always overreaches when it comes to power, and the tables always turn because the left is arrogant and people have had to live under Democrat government for a while. I truly wasn't sure if it was going to happen this time.

Posted by: RM at January 17, 2025 06:14 PM (n/1Oj)

214 Michele isn't wearing any makeup in that picture.

99 percent of wives would slay their husbands in front of witnesses if they posted a pic like that, let alone to millions of followers.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at January 17, 2025 06:14 PM (Vvh2V)

215 Not all boomers lived the Leave it to Beaver lifestyle.

And not all of Gen X had absent parents. My mom was home all day and loved it, she had dinner on the table when we all came home. It varies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 06:14 PM (2VST1)

216 Having the house to myself was also a major bonus. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (VwHCD)

That was risky business.

Posted by: Berserker Sr. at January 17, 2025 06:14 PM (i24o9)

217 "Everything is politicized. I can't blame them for finding no joy in any of it.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon "

The last 10 years have been joyless. You have a point.

I feel bad for kids growing up in this talent hating world.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:15 PM (fV+MH)

218 And Labor, with Southport Murders and Rape Gang Coverup is in tatters already,
Posted by: Oldcat

Yep, Starmer and his party has fallen faster in approval than almost every other government not headed by Liz Truss and the recent budget problems this week spurring a probably minibudget is going to make things worse.

Basically, Starmer is screwed between Bank of England raising rates, the exploding public debt service, and all the promises he made to buy votes becoming undone. All the new money from tax increases is going to repay the BoE for market looses from quantitative easing and that is still not enough.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:15 PM (ctrM5)

219
Speaking of Skylvester Skallonk...

I watched "Eye See You" (2002) last night. Big cast of well-known names. Based on a book. And, still, it was ridiculous.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (MsCOV)

220 No, CNN settled . The cash payout is whatever the defendant wanted, since they failed so badly,
==

the lawyers probably did the " it will go to appeal, it will cost a lot and take time and might get overturned, so take the money" , blah blah blah. They did their thing and wanted to be paid.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (g47mK)

221 Having the house to myself was also a major bonus. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (VwHCD)

That was risky business.
Posted by: Berserker Sr.

Who's the U-boat commander?

Posted by: Detective Sergeant Miklos at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (xesY+)

222 In my case it was "we're going down the shore". To be fair though, they didn't do that until I was 15-16, and I was thrilled to actually see my father the workaholic take some time off and have fun. Having the house to myself was also a major bonus. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (VwHCD)
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Yeah, I was a junior when that started, and I was happy about it. I hated wasting every single weekend at that damn cabin.

"Gee, why don't you have a girlfriend, or go on dates."

"Um, we go up north every weekend. When would I go ono a date?"

Senior year was awesome. I hosted Saturday night Shogun (you know, the old Milton Bradley game). It was a sugar-filled riot.

Anyone remember Jolt?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (ZOv7s)

223 I feel bad for kids growing up in this talent hating world.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:15 PM (fV+MH)

The kids don't know any thing better. They know not what they miss. I try to make sure my kids can be kids without all the political crap and hatred.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (i24o9)

224 "Don't kid yourself, he hates white people, and talented people in general. They all mellow out after they leave office, but he is still and ass...who needs a new flame.
Posted by: runner"

The progs do seem to despise talent more than anything.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 06:11 PM (fV+MH)

Progs are the ones who see the DMV as more talented and efficient than they are.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:17 PM (n7h9X)

225 Bite Me is naming a new aircraft the Bill Clinton? what??
I wonder if Trump can change that.

The USS Bath House Bill...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 06:17 PM (jQ+5q)

226 213 A lot of folks have said this but I remember a column/book by Ann Coulter saying the left always overreaches when it comes to power, and the tables always turn because the left is arrogant and people have had to live under Democrat government for a while. I truly wasn't sure if it was going to happen this time.
Posted by: RM at January 17, 2025 06:14 PM (n/1Oj

Yes, but what happens is that Republicans then consolidate the left's gains, and conservatism then moves on to defending the new status quo. So the left's overreach just results in pauses on the ever leftward march. Very little counter-reform happens.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 06:17 PM (yjflf)

227 Anyone remember Jolt?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (ZOv7s)

All the sugar, twice the caffeine?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:18 PM (n7h9X)

228 sry Bite Me is naming a new aircraft carrier..

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 06:18 PM (jQ+5q)

229 Unfortunately, this means that the size of the award will be protected by an NDA and we won't know how much they paid out. I guess maybe we can take guesses about it based on corporate filings, but they'll hide the amount in general "legal expenses" sums. Unless it's like a half billion dollars, I doubt we'll ever be able to have a good idea of how big the settlement is. The stone of the settlement will be hidden under too much general legal expenses sand.

==

It might still be possible. Year over year filings, then compare.

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 06:18 PM (g47mK)

230 No, CNN settled . The cash payout is whatever the defendant wanted, since they failed so badly,
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I will be listening for the lamentations of their women.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 06:18 PM (krQz2)

231 Every generation blames the one before.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (mH6SG)

232 Well, it must have been a pretty decent settlement offer if CNN saw the jury asking for a calculator.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (vt7xw)

233 The kids don't know any thing better. They know not what they miss. I try to make sure my kids can be kids without all the political crap and hatred.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (i24o9)

I did the same. I tried to hide all the shit in the world from them. It drives me crazy when I hear young kids, 9, 10 years old, spew political talking points they hear from parents. It’s like fuck man your kids will have 60,70, 80 years to do that. Can’t you let them be kids while they’re kids?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (AMcpv)

234 The kids don't know any thing better. They know not what they miss. I try to make sure my kids can be kids without all the political crap and hatred.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Good for you. What you said is the mark of an excellent parent.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (ctrM5)

235 All the sugar, twice the caffeine?
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:18 PM (n7h9X)
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IYKYK

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (ZOv7s)

236 Anyone remember Jolt?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I think I read somewhere that Jolt is coming back but with more caffeine.

Posted by: Tuna at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (oaGWv)

237 The progs do seem to despise talent more than anything.

And why do you think most of the GOP still wants to import Visa workers ?

They hate expensive talent. They love cheap talent. All the ownership class wants to maximize profits, and minimize labor costs.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (FeAkV)

238 Anyone remember Jolt?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Only as a high caffeine cola

Posted by: Miklos of limited recollection if subpoena'd at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (xesY+)

239 Yes, but what happens is that Republicans then consolidate the left's gains, and conservatism then moves on to defending the new status quo. So the left's overreach just results in pauses on the ever leftward march. Very little counter-reform happens.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 06:17 PM (yjflf)

****

Yes, this. Exactly.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 17, 2025 06:20 PM (FC8SQ)

240 Anyone remember Jolt?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Vaguely.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:20 PM (ctrM5)

241 Bite Me is naming a new aircraft the Bill Clinton? what??
I wonder if Trump can change that.

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That would be cool.

The news would be all over him about being petty.

As if Joe's nullification of all Trump's EOs wasn't.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 06:20 PM (krQz2)

242 Anyone remember Jolt?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

My one experience with Jolt was as a mixer for cheap scotch before seeing RUSH at the S.D. Sports Arena. Free tix because I worked at the college radio station and no one else wanted to go.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2025 06:20 PM (KAi1n)

243 I'll take 1 billion dollars minus a 10 dollar tip for each of you guys who made this possible.

That's what I would have said.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 17, 2025 06:20 PM (RLLZj)

244 231 Every generation blames the one before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (mH6SG)

All generations do think the next one is fucked up. But dude!! Millennials and GenZ. Something went horribly wrong there.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:21 PM (AMcpv)

245 >>It might still be possible. Year over year filings, then compare.

If he tries to outbid Trump for Greenland we'll know it was big.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 06:21 PM (LkLld)

246 Yes, but what happens is that Republicans then consolidate the left's gains, and conservatism then moves on to defending the new status quo. So the left's overreach just results in pauses on the ever leftward march. Very little counter-reform happens.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 06:17 PM (yjflf)

It took Reagan's 12 and Bush's 4 and Clinton's 8 and Dubs 8 before Federal Tax Raises stopped being punished for both sides. They needed to manufacture Obama to get back to parity on that.

It may last even longer without the GOPe undermining continually.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:21 PM (n7h9X)

247 Every generation blames the one before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (mH6SG)
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No, they used to respect the one before. That's what bothered me about the Boomers - they trashed their parents all the time. My grandparents were wonderful, hard-working people. They did not get the respect from their kids that they deserved.

Instead of respecting elders, Boomers made fun of them. Remember them trashing Bob Dole because he had a *war wound* and had to hold a pen to keep his hand from collapsing?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (ZOv7s)

248 What kind of ship will the SS Slick Willie be?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (AMcpv)

249 I'll take 1 billion dollars minus a 10 dollar tip for each of you guys who made this possible.

That's what I would have said.
Posted by: Just Lily

AND THE GUYS GET SHIRTS

Posted by: Miklos from the National Ace Archives at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (xesY+)

250 149 Didn’t the Covington Catholic kid also sue CNN? Or was that a different network?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

I hope they ask for, at a minimum, what was paid out for the Covington slander. It is probably a good approximation in any case.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (DsA2n)

251 Every generation blames the one before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (mH6SG)

And once in a while, they could be right.

I blame the earlier one. Millennials are not as bad as Boomers.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (FeAkV)

252 All generations do think the next one is fucked up. But dude!! Millennials and GenZ. Something went horribly wrong there.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:21 PM (AMcpv)

Millennials were propagandized from the cradle. They guzzled it all and asked for more. A lost generation.

Gen Z seems to have taken note and has a little more cynicism and skepticism.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (i24o9)

253 All generations do think the next one is fucked up. But dude!! Millennials and GenZ. Something went horribly wrong there.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:21 PM (AMcpv)

Feminism and the breakup of the core family to a critical point. Nobody was teaching the kids how to pair up and have families to fight the socialists and racists.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (n7h9X)

254 Bite Me is naming a new aircraft the Bill Clinton? what??
I wonder if Trump can change that.

The USS Bent Carrot.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (17s+e)

255 Yeah, it's borderline child abuse to politicize kids, imo. Just injecting anxiety, worry, anger into what should be an innocent childhood

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (U1FmN)

256 All I know is that we in Gen X took one look at our aging hippie parents and said "I'm getting a job and a haircut."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (vt7xw)

257 Keeping the settlement quiet will cost some additional money as well - good for Young.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (uLt48)

258 USS Huncher

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2025 06:24 PM (snN/i)

259 No, they used to respect the one before. That's what bothered me about the Boomers - they trashed their parents all the time.

You get bonus points for that sweeping generalization. Well done.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:24 PM (mH6SG)

260 The latchkey generation that raised itself. Fast Times, based on a true story, is pretty much a documentary.

circa 1995 or so...we had an annual party around 4th of July every year because DanMa'am's birfday is proximate to that date. Every year, bbq, pool, kegs and a whole lot of friends and neighbors. Our kids were in HS in Bellaire (TX) and one of them was at a kegger one of his friends was hosting. That kid got his older sister to make the purchase. Huge house in a nice neighborhood of more huge houses, pool in the yard, rowdies all around coming and going. A neighbor calls the cops and Bellaire PD made the scene. Uh oh. Police demand the kids call their parents. Except for us most of the parents were out of town, Paris, Cali, all over the place.
Cops had no idea what to do...20 or so lit teenagers and no body to come get them. Our son knew there was no way he wanted one of us to show up. Those kids noticed the cops weren't really interested in sticking around and they bailed out of windows, over fences, any way to get away. Talk of the town for a year .

Posted by: DanMan at January 17, 2025 06:24 PM (8uzBS)

261 231 Every generation blames the one before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:19 PM (mH6SG)

And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at January 17, 2025 06:24 PM (R3yzU)

262 These kids aren't entirely at fault. 1/2 of the blame goes to their parents. They helicopter in when their kid fuck's up, allowing them to learn exactly 0 lessons.

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2025 06:25 PM (Fg0Nr)

263 No, they used to respect the one before. That's what bothered me about the Boomers - they trashed their parents all the time.

When going to a mud field for a music festival to take the acid from a Mason Jar and then get all stiff necked about it for a couple decades ?

Yeah. That's a Boomer.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:25 PM (FeAkV)

264 I'm sorry he settled.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 17, 2025 06:25 PM (xcxpd)

265 You get bonus points for that sweeping generalization. Well done.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:24 PM (mH6SG)
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"Don't trust anyone over 30." That's pretty sweeping.

The counter-culture, the culture of youth, divorce on demand, abortion on demand - and damn the consequences.

This whole "I need to be me" and "my truth," where did that start?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:25 PM (ZOv7s)

266 I haven't was the comments so don't know if anyone mentioned this but Young got the 5 million. The settlement is only for punitive damages and we don't know how much it is but it is on top of the 5 million. I would think that if the jury had awarded an outrageous sum, CNN would have appealed and maybe Young wouldn't get anything right away.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 06:25 PM (t/2Uw)

267 Based -

Tomio Okamura: “Ban the Propagation of Islam in the Czech Republic”

Tomio Okamura is the leader of the SPD (Svoboda a prímá demokracie, Freedom and Direct Democracy) political party in Czechia. He is a model of diversity: his mother was Moravian and his father Japanese.

Mr. Okamura is currently facing prosecution and possible jail time for distributing a poster denouncing the EU Migration Pact, produced by the coalition that his party belongs to. I suspect that what sealed his fate was the use of a bloodthirsty negro in the image.

Image -
https://tinyurl.com/ydj95mf2

Rest of the story, via Gates of Vienna-
https://tinyurl.com/yzehrahy

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 06:26 PM (fs1hN)

268 231 Every generation blames the one before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

There was a distinct boom in US economy and peacefullness (by and large) from the Ike era until later in the LBJ era.

Gen X mainly got the stick as despite Reagan, there was the worst recession since the Great Depression in 82-83, still was inflation, and average workers (aka parents) pay started to decline during the Ford-Carter area and cost of living started increasing faster for transportation, education, and housing than paychecks did.

Technical Baby Boomers did not grow up under any severe recessions, some bad inflation post WWII with spotty housing shortages in places, but overall the 1946-1968 economy far outperformed the later 1973-1994 era for the average worker.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:26 PM (ctrM5)

269 USS Bill Clinton.

Home of VFA-72...the Blue Dresses.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 17, 2025 06:26 PM (vt7xw)

270 Zoomers are just lost. Between the lockdowns and the collapse of society norms, they're wandering around trying to find something to believe in.

Lots are returning to the old faiths. Our parish is seeing lots of young families right now, and the head coverings are returning. You see this is the demand for the TLM and also the fact that vocations are really picking up. Lots of religious sisters these days, and priestly vocations are doing very well.
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God is not asleep.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (ZOv7s)
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We are seeing it in my parish. Huge class of RCIA coming in this Easter. I see the head coverings popping up too. I think this TRAD movement is leaning into this notion that God isn't such a bad thing after all.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 17, 2025 06:26 PM (uLt48)

271 75 million for Kamala ? Why do I doubt that

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My immediate thought, too.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 17, 2025 06:27 PM (qBdHI)

272 All I know is that we in Gen X took one look at our aging hippie parents and said "I'm getting a job and a haircut."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (vt7xw)

I am at the leading edge of Gen-X. My folks were born in 1941 and 1942. They were far more in tune with their parents than the boomers ever were.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Day 4 of Funemployment at January 17, 2025 06:27 PM (Ad8y9)

273 This whole "I need to be me" and "my truth," where did that start?

Not with me. I think I'll just sit this one out.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:27 PM (mH6SG)

274
256 All I know is that we in Gen X took one look at our aging hippie parents and said "I'm getting a job and a haircut."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 17, 2025 06:23 PM (vt7xw)

Eh by the time I was an adult GenXer my parents were well past that phase of their life. My dad was hippie-esque I guess. I’ve seen pics of him in college and wow, barely recognizable.

But then he did what most of them did, graduate, get a job, make money, become what they thought they were protesting against.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:28 PM (AMcpv)

275 264 I'm sorry he settled.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Guy wanted a jury verdict clearing his name and he got money to pay back for a destroyed career. Like Kyle Rittenhouse, it is not his duty to save the world or end CNN.

Young rejected settling before trial risking getting nothing but he wanted vindication. That is braver than a lot of us if they waved around a pre trial settlement check.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:28 PM (ctrM5)

276 No, they used to respect the one before. That's what bothered me about the Boomers - they trashed their parents all the time. My grandparents were wonderful, hard-working people. They did not get the respect from their kids that they deserved.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:22 PM (ZOv7s)

Obviously not from an Italian family. Those Italian women would would beat you to a bloody eggplant if you mouthed off. Damn...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 06:28 PM (VwHCD)

277 Sally Struthers Steps Out After Bombshell Interview About Her Negative Experiences with Norman Lear and Betty White
. . . .
“All those years on the show, Norman and his wife would have dinner parties,” she said in the episode. Although the other stars of the show — Carroll O’Connor, Jean Stapleton and Rob Reiner — and their spouses were often invited, Struthers claimed, “I wasn't, in eight years, invited to his home. It didn't feel good.”

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Geez, Sally. They probably just wanted to insure enough food for everybody!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 06:28 PM (L/fGl)

278 Anyone remember Jolt?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:16 PM (ZOv7s)
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Yep.

Until a college buddy of mine introduced me to Sundrop.

Much better soda.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 06:28 PM (BpYfr)

279 Sampling Small Batch 1792 bourbon tonight.

Perty.Damn.Good.

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2025 06:29 PM (Fg0Nr)

280 Zoomers are just lost. Between the lockdowns and the collapse of society norms, they're wandering around trying to find something to believe in.

We could blame it on them ... or we could look at who was in charge. Hell - lets look at who is still in charge now.

I always laugh, bitterly, whenever a Boomer bitches about a Participation Trophy. You think the little fat fucks made one themselves ?

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:29 PM (FeAkV)

281 I am at the leading edge of Gen-X. My folks were born in 1941 and 1942. They were far more in tune with their parents than the boomers ever were.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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My parents were Silents and pre WWII. But yes, they are more ideologically in tune. I think perhaps one of the reasons is that the kids heard their parents about the not so great FDR days at home.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:30 PM (ctrM5)

282 "Every generation blames the one before"

And every generation makes the one after it. The latest generation is the peak of civilization, built on every generation before it. Here it is the way we made it.

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 06:30 PM (vFG9F)

283 There's no way the left is less popular than they were in the 1980s.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 17, 2025 06:30 PM (3wi/L)

284 The left is giddy that Trump can't have his Inauguration outdoors.. He won't be able to "lie "about the size of crowd this way

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They have to get their jollies wherever they can these days. Not much going their way lately.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 17, 2025 06:31 PM (qBdHI)

285 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
JUST IN - Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend Trump's traditional inaugural lunch • NBC News

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 17, 2025 06:31 PM (5LoD7)

286 275 264 I'm sorry he settled.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Guy wanted a jury verdict clearing his name and he got money to pay back for a destroyed career. Like Kyle Rittenhouse, it is not his duty to save the world or end CNN.

Young rejected settling before trial risking getting nothing but he wanted vindication. That is braver than a lot of us if they waved around a pre trial settlement check.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:28 PM (ctrM5)

Getting paid is nice. Revenge is sweeter. At least from the outside. Oh well.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 17, 2025 06:31 PM (xcxpd)

287 I drank Jolt Cola when I wored overnights as a stocker at a grocery store.

Problem is, caffeine has very little affect on me. so, it didn't help.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Day 4 of Funemployment at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (Ad8y9)

288 Der Starmer visits Auschwitz. Looking for tips?

https://tinyurl.com/4a7m99d7

Posted by: OrangeEnt at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (0eaVi)

289 And every generation makes the one after it. The latest generation is the peak of civilization, built on every generation before it. Here it is the way we made it.

At least for the Gen X around me ? That's a legit conversation. As in, we could do with less. Less Internet. Less diversity.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (FeAkV)

290 Every generation blames the one before.
Posted by: Notorious BFD

I blame the Neanderthals.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (L/fGl)

291 I know a share of Boomers that bought into the whole Kamala will be our first woman President nonsense.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (wBaIH)

292 When going to a mud field for a music festival to take the acid from a Mason Jar and then get all stiff necked about it for a couple decades ?

Yeah. That's a Boomer.
Posted by: What Willl We Do
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Boomers I knew were selling sandwiches to the hippies at Woodstock. It's a big generation. We had all types. Including a whole bunch that went to Nam.

Posted by: Cosda at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (t44VK)

293 I'm a Kennedy
-era baby -- neither truly boomer or X.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 06:32 PM (amTrm)

294 And once in a while, they could be right.

I would argue that they are ALL right. That each generation loses things that the previous were good in, and the loss of certain hardships weakens the next. I think all those complaints about short skirts and riding cars instead of horses and the crazy new fad of having an oven instead of an open fire were all correct in some way.

But at the same time, good changes happened as well. The old people complaining about the new has merit (we all need to approach novelty with caution and see its problems) but there are actual benefits to air conditioning and the internet. Its always a tradeoff, there is no absolute good in this world except maybe a hug from your child.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (2VST1)

295 Nood
CIA Traitor

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (xcxpd)

296 285 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 2h
JUST IN - Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend Trump's traditional inaugural lunch • NBC News
Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 17, 2025 06:31 PM (5LoD7)

Have you seen Bush lately ?

Probably saved ALL of the Crab Rangoon

Posted by: jsg at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (Fg0Nr)

297 The giggling from the guy's lawyer should be a clue...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (IX6ED)

298 The problem with older generations shitting on younger ones, is that the former raised them and built the world they were raised in. There are things beyond the older generations' control, of course, but that's just as true or truer for younger ones, who have had far less time to make a mark. If they're monster babies, they're our monster babies.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (yjflf)

299 I am at the leading edge of Gen-X. My folks were born in 1941 and 1942. They were far more in tune with their parents than the boomers ever were.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
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My parents were Silents and pre WWII. But yes, they are more ideologically in tune. I think perhaps one of the reasons is that the kids heard their parents about the not so great FDR days at home.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 06:30 PM (ctrM5)
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I got along very well with my grandparents. In fact, I've patterned myself after them rather than my parents. I think a lot of Gen X did that, and wondered what the hell was wrong with the Boomers. I mean, I did.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (ZOv7s)

300 The left is giddy that Trump can't have his Inauguration outdoors.. He won't be able to "lie "about the size of crowd this way

And they love to repeat that as if it were a lie, but Trump included all the online streamers in his statement, which made it correct. But they are old school and don't think in those terms. Its partly why they lost. When they were getting Bruce Springsteen to do a benefit concert, Trump was on Joe Rogan.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 06:34 PM (2VST1)

301 JUST IN - Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend Trump's traditional inaugural lunch • NBC News
Posted by: andycanuck

Because we got the catering contract

Snobs

Posted by: Miklos from the local McDonald's at January 17, 2025 06:35 PM (xesY+)

302 I got along very well with my grandparents. In fact, I've patterned myself after them rather than my parents. I think a lot of Gen X did that, and wondered what the hell was wrong with the Boomers. I mean, I did.

That's a thing. I got along better with both my Grands than my parents. Of course, they're the Grands. But still, way more sane. Even as a kid, I could see it.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 06:36 PM (FeAkV)

303 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 17, 2025 06:36 PM (5LoD7)

304 221
'Who's the U-boat commander?'

My dad loved that line. It made the movie for him.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 17, 2025 06:37 PM (3wi/L)

305 The left is giddy that Trump can't have his Inauguration outdoors.. He won't be able to "lie "about the size of crowd this way

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They have to get their jollies wherever they can these days. Not much going their way lately.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 17, 2025 06:31 PM

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I'm giddy that he'll be in the Rotunda and throngs of his people will be outside the Capitol celebrating the Unstealing.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 06:37 PM (amTrm)

306 Indoor inauguration = much better security.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at January 17, 2025 06:38 PM (cIOlQ)

307 I think Barry is queer as a two dollar bill,

"Queer as a three-dollar bill."

Two dollar bills are legal tender, even if the only place you can get them are Dissmores.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 17, 2025 06:41 PM (hB7mE)

308 The cheat for the demoturds is probably between 5 to 10%. Kumswala probably got about 70 million legitimate votes. 69,500,000 too many.

Posted by: Life of Wryly at January 17, 2025 06:42 PM (1FWWQ)

309 Wait what? The inauguration is indoors?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 17, 2025 06:46 PM (AMcpv)

310 The problem with older generations shitting on younger ones, is that the former raised them and built the world they were raised in. There are things beyond the older generations' control, of course, but that's just as true or truer for younger ones, who have had far less time to make a mark. If they're monster babies, they're our monster babies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 06:33 PM (yjflf)

Don't confuse the real "things were better in my youth" and "kids these days suck, mine included" from the para political crap about boomers zoomers tumors and bazoomers.

The latter is not quantified enough for anything. I was in the last of the boomers, but my year elected Reagan and crushed communism. I don't even recognize these so called characteristics.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 07:09 PM (n7h9X)

311 There's no way the left is less popular than they were in the 1980s.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 17, 2025 06:30 PM (3wi/L)

They are labelling the left by party. All parties were far, far less left wing then than now.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 07:12 PM (n7h9X)

312 This whole "I need to be me" and "my truth," where did that start?

Not with me. I think I'll just sit this one out.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 17, 2025 06:27 PM (mH6SG)

Kramer versus Kramer at least....but since that was a reactionary show there was probably a dozen that make it look good before that.

Rockford Files had the "sound of one hand slapping" finish when a hippy girl hires Rockford to find her missing Guru who was a fake and stole money and he slaps her for chasing her down.

But there were gurus and mystics scamming rich wives and daughters for hundreds of years, spiritualists, Indian mystics etc etc etc. Goofball religions go back to Rome and farther on.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 07:19 PM (n7h9X)

313 My brother and I were raised in accord with the values that are now derided by the left and have never forsaken nor apologized for that. Such will never happen, either.

If that offends or upsettles, tough, deal with it.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at January 17, 2025 07:28 PM (hKoQL)

314 I’m quite sure the settlement is no less than $20 Mil. I remember reading somewhere that punitive damages are 3X compensatory damages, so that’s 20 Million, his lawyer would never let him settle for less.

Posted by: Jocon307 at January 17, 2025 07:42 PM (toPiK)

315 Burying it as a "legal expense"???

Sounds worthy of 34 felonies. Pam Bondi should get on that as soon as they file 1st quarter numbers.

Posted by: Jim T at January 17, 2025 08:19 PM (fItLz)

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The Left is Now at Its Most Unpopular at Any Time Since the the Cold War
Update: CNN Has Settled With Young