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Convicted Disinformation Outfit CNN: Our Finances Are In Tough Shape and If You Hit Us With Major Punitive Damages We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You

CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.


I can't wait to hear the media, which has assured us for two years that juries in very leftwing districts are 100% fair and impartial, begin ripping Florida juries as corrupt fiends incapable of fairness or even human thought.

Posted by: Ace at 01:15 PM




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1 Present!

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 01:15 PM (g47mK)

2 Sock change.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:15 PM (kgE5c)

3 Sucks to be you CNN.

Pay the man.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2025 01:15 PM (snN/i)

4 CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline"

===

aw

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 01:15 PM (g47mK)

5 Willowed, but still on topic:

I think this is appropriate.

https://youtu.be/2q35PgSXhKg
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:14 PM

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:16 PM (kgE5c)

6 — Ace of Spades (@AceofSpadesHQ) January 17, 2025

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Ace quoting ace.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:16 PM (GBKbO)

7 Top 10?!?

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (pgwxJ)

8 '...or removed entirely'


That is my favorite part.

Posted by: garrett at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (snN/i)

9
Cry harder, CNN!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (xG4kz)

10 I don't think it's all that subtle.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (lTGtQ)

11 CNN -- too small to fail.

Where will 80-something liberals get their go to sleep juice?

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (fV+MH)

12 "Present!"

For me? It's not even my birthday!

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (vFG9F)

13 Will they learn anything from this?
Did they learn anything from the Sandmann defamation case?

Posted by: Xander Crews at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (rEmVK)

14 Ace quoting ace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:16 PM


Aceception.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:17 PM (kgE5c)

15 "Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 01:15 PM (g47mK)"

How much do you make on those ads posted in your comments?

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (vFG9F)

16 I've never seen a kamikaze nose dive described as a "subtle decline" but I also don't have the updated dictionary definition of "black market" that only CNN has.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (fPmNY)

17 saying it'd harm the company financially and hinder its ability

God forbid YOU be inconvenienced in any way!

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (KBusA)

18 "We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You"

They'll still be able to scoop the Gay And Lame newsbeat.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (w7peH)

19 Go back to August 2024. Warner Bros. did a $9.1 Billion write down due to the underwhelming performance of Cable television. And, that was dead center in the middle of a General Election campaign.

So, regardless of this verdict, it would not surprise me to see a whole lot of CNN's on the virtual chopping block. They aren't lucrative anymore.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (dIske)

20 F*** 'Em.

Send 'em to Hell.

Posted by: XTC at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (sm6Pk)

21 CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.


Reminds me of one attorney I worked for who got one of her clients off by saying to the judge "Your Honor, my client is an idiot."

It worked.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (77rzZ)

22
Without CNN, what will the hobos, illegal aliens and other layabouts who occupy airport departure areas have to watch at 3:00 AM?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (xG4kz)

23 Convict News Network

Posted by: 13times at January 17, 2025 01:19 PM (Jyalu)

24 Is there an Alex Jones button on that calculator used for calculating damages? .... use it!

Posted by: Wardo at January 17, 2025 01:19 PM (qTDvI)

25 If you have to change your socks you must have smelly feet.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:19 PM (fV+MH)

26 Are punitive damages insurable in FL? And if so, are they covered or excluded in CNN's policies?

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (5IFb9)

27 The punitive damages cap can be raised, or removed entirely.

No cap!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (fs1hN)

28 First hour of my schaedenboner.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (ufFY8)

29
CRUSH THEM!!!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (xznYk)

30 24 Is there an Alex Jones button on that calculator used for calculating damages? .... use it!
Posted by: Wardo
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That's the parameter for CNN.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (2E+2e)

31 Doesn't CNN carry liability insurance for this type of thing?

max them out, jury

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)

32 How much do you make on those ads posted in your comments?
Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (vFG9F)

I have not seen those. Brave blocks them, I guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (8zz6B)

33 I've been watching that stupid Rabbit movie for at least 15 minutes now and have yet to see any bunnies boinking. Does that come later?

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (vFG9F)

34
"We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You"

------

Tropical Storm Rodney is suing them for libel.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (7xqnr)

35 If You Hit Us With Major Punitive Damages We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You
.......

What about the world’s largest Lithium-Ion battery storage farm being on fire?

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (v0R5T)

36 Are punitive damages insurable in FL? And if so, are they covered or excluded in CNN's policies?
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge

By law, CA prohibits insurance of punis. Probably the same for every state, otherwise....

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (KAi1n)

37 Like the kid with two hams in his hands complaining that he has no bread.

I am unsympathetic.

Thing is I get how punitive damages are supposed to straddle a line between being tough enough that you don't do what you did anymore, and not so tough that it kills you. But somehow, I'm not so conscious of the line any longer when it comes to media companies.

"Wipe them out. ALLLL of them."

-Palpatine

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (PzXaK)

38 Does anyone know how much the plaintiff requested in compensatory damages? The jury gave him 5 million. Is that what he asked for?

I'm not sure how you get to a billion with only 5 million in damages.

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (o1mb2)

39 That's a shame.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (2UnvF)

40
CNN: "How will you know anything if we don't tell you about it?"

Posted by: Auspex at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (j4U/Z)

41
Does that Christiane Ammanpour Jew hater still work there? Make her pay too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (xznYk)

42 The NY Jets are in subtle decline.

CNN is the Titanic post iceberg.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (LkLld)

43 No cap!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (fs1hN)

Awww. Shoulda socked that one as "Edna Mod"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (8zz6B)

44 CNN's lawyer argues against the network being hit with punitive damages (after it was found liable for defaming Navy veteran Zachary Young) by saying it'd harm the company financially and hinder its ability to report on major breaking news events like wildfires

Yes, well the entire point of the lawsuit is to punish you for your "reporting" being biased and false.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (2VST1)

45 'Your honor, may we have a graphing calculator, with exponential function please?'

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (w7peH)

46 Cue Cousin Eustace slamming the cha-ching handle while wholesome Americans sing Auld Lang Syne.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (amTrm)

47 Ace quoting ace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Ace is the ultimate authority on what Ace says and he adjudicates any question of what Ace has said.

But, he should still cite himself otherwise he might plagiarize himself technically.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (ctrM5)

48 Let me get this straight.

CNN is arguing that the verdict will damage its ability to do its "job." (I use the term loosely here.)

Young took them to court because CNN's malfeasant defamation caused Young to no longer be able to do HIS job (rescuing people), which is arguably more valuable than CNN's.

Idiots. (CNN, not Young.)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (7fElN)

49 47th !

Posted by: crabgrass farmer at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (CTUih)

50

They'll have to cut back on Potato Pudgy's donut budget.

Do the right thing jury!

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (et1vG)

51 well looks like they nailed the emm effer, amirite?

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (dCxaZ)

52 CNN should have been run out of town years ago and people jailed when they conspired with Saddam Hussein while the USA was at war with Iraq. Treasonous bastards.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (D6PGr)

53 Oh boy is this great!

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (i24o9)

54 Well, that was obviously going to happen.

Now a real class act might say to CNN, keep your money, you pay some damages, but what we want are a series of change sat the network so this doesn't happen again.

step 1) Everyone involved in the story (reporters, writers, editors) is fired. That includes their lawyers.

Step 2) a long, investigative journalism piece on how they got this story so wrong, and what steps will be taken to never let it happen again.

Again, don't just take the corporate money - PUNISH the people in the newsroom responsible. Damage their careers. name and shame.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (nLFEI)

55 25 If you have to change your socks you must have smelly feet.
____

Wait, what do you use your socks for?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (fs1hN)

56 That FL statute is ultimately subject to the Supreme Court's rather un-originalist punitive damages jurisprudence. Given how this trial is going, I suspect the appeal's biggest issue may revolve around the constitutionality of punitive damages award (assuming here that it is gonna be yuge, luxurious even).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (wKJf5)

57 Does that Christiane Ammanpour Jew hater still work there? Make her pay too.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 17, 2025 01:21 PM (xznYk)

I hate that cvnt.
She might be doing PBS shit. Don't know.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (ufFY8)

58 Does Gavin know there are no more Lithium-Ion batteries available for his EV dream? Maybe he should visit Moss Landing and do his shoulder shimmy.

Posted by: wth at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

59 31 Doesn't CNN carry liability insurance for this type of thing?

max them out, jury
Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)
_____________________________

They likely have a Self-insured retention policy on their Professional Liability coverage. So, they'd take a big hit before the Re-insurer would step in to cover the difference if they exceeded the SIR.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (dIske)

60 Probably the same for every state, otherwise....
Posted by: SFGoth

Not so apparently in Ohio. Just skimmed up the insurance companies v. Oberlin case. Now settled but Oberlin and the insurance companies disagreed about whether the insurance companies were liable after Oberlin ignored their advice to settle.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (ctrM5)

61 I've been watching that stupid Rabbit movie for at least 15 minutes now and have yet to see any bunnies boinking. Does that come later?
Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (vFG9F)
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I watched the whole movie last night.

No rabbits boinking anywhere...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (7fElN)

62 "We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You"

We won’t be seeing Wolf Blitzer clutching lampposts?

Posted by: 13times at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (Jyalu)

63 I'm not sure how you get to a billion with only 5 million in damages.
Posted by: Hedley Lamarr


I thought they were based on a calculation of income loss, etc.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (mlg/3)

64 47 Ace is the ultimate authority on what Ace says and he adjudicates any question of what Ace has said.

But, he should still cite himself otherwise he might plagiarize himself technically.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (ctrM5)

=======

If ace says something that ace disapproves of, does ace ban ace?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (GBKbO)

65 I won a jury trial in a discrimination case against a landlord worth $90 million. Two of my 3 clients got $10,000 in punis each (on top of $150,000 in compensatory damages each). Punis are not a winning Lotto ticket. Sometimes you just match 4.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (KAi1n)

66 I say, let 'em crash.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (Dm8we)

67 CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.


Reminds me of one attorney I worked for who got one of her clients off by saying to the judge "Your Honor, my client is an idiot."

It worked.
Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:18 PM (77rzZ)


Stockholder lawsuits for corporate mismanagement are on the rise. CNN just became a liability.

Posted by: mrp at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (rj6Yv)

68 Shorter CNN:

How can we continue our hard work of defaming people if you take all our money?!?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (wKJf5)

69 38 Does anyone know how much the plaintiff requested in compensatory damages? The jury gave him 5 million. Is that what he asked for?

I'm not sure how you get to a billion with only 5 million in damages."

the other $995M is punitive damages for lying your arse off purposefully to smear the defendant. Which you shouldn't have done.

Posted by: Scott_T at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (2waQ7)

70 But, he should still cite himself otherwise he might plagiarize himself technically.

Posted by: whig


Remember, he banned himself once. For all we know he might sue himself for defamation and get socked for punitive damages.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (OUMaO)

71 I don't know why the CNN atty is crying poor mouth.

Just be upfront with the judge/jury. Tell them to award as much as they want...the IC's black budget will cover it anyway.

Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (dCxaZ)

72 CNN's lawyer argues against the network being hit with punitive damages (after it was found liable for defaming Navy veteran Zachary Young) by saying it'd harm the company financially

Like the Menendez brothers telling the court to have mercy because they're now orphans.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (ynpvh)

73 I believe “intent to nail” is a legitimate defense in Florida.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (fTG6a)

74 Punitive damages are usually excluded in insurance policies. Maybe you can get Lloyds of London to underwrite one for big buck premium.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (D6PGr)

75 Should have sent Tapper or Tater to beg in front of the jury .
Please don't bankrupt us . We have children and no marketable skills. Please , please think of the children

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (pqMwI)

76 53 Everything is Awesome!
youtube.com/watch?v=9cQgQIMlwWw

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (w7peH)

77 If CNN doesn't blather every day to inform the smooth brains how to think ? What's next ? The Weather Channel doesn't give those with no ambition to go outside any passion about the Hellscape that is outside ?

I don't know if you people understand the severity of this.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (E0n90)

78 Again, don't just take the corporate money - PUNISH the people in the newsroom responsible. Damage their careers. name and shame.
Posted by: El Mariachi at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (nLFEI)

Like I said in the last post: Require every anchor to close every program by stating that he/she is a worthless, lying piece of shit. For an entire year.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (8zz6B)

79 68 Shorter CNN:

How can we continue our hard work of defaming people if you take all our money?!?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (wKJf5)

========

That he highlights the hurricane coverage is hilarious.

Hurricane coverage is generally the worst stuff on cable news. It's sensationalistic, inaccurate, and generally not useful at all.

It's also what helps them drive up ratings, by highlighting disaster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)

80 I've been watching that stupid Rabbit movie for at least 15 minutes now and have yet to see any bunnies boinking. Does that come later?
Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (vFG9F

Watership Down II: Retirement

Posted by: 13times at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (Jyalu)

81 I am truly amazed that an individual won a defamation suit against Big Media. The deck is so stacked in these cases that it rarely/never happens.

CNN will have to appeal and then settle.

*Turns on "Dope's Die Motherfer, Die"*

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (wBaIH)

82 The Florida panhandle comes through.

Posted by: Good people at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (dg+HA)

83 I would include this provision - CNN is NEVER to hire these lawyers again and dissolve any contractual agreement with them.

Seriously - it's time to stop letting the malefactors hide behind corporate money. The lawyers were idiots and lied in court. Shame them, and at the very least, get them fired from CNN.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (nLFEI)

84 Ace is the ultimate authority on what Ace says and he adjudicates any question of what Ace has said.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (ctrM5)

If it's good enough for Charles Barkley...

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (5IFb9)

85 I have not seen those. Brave blocks them, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I abide them... only at AOSHQ.

What strikes me is the arrogance of those bastards at CNN. They still don't get it, do they?

Posted by: MkY at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (+Pp+Q)

86 The legacy media (relic media) went ALL IN on being nothing but TRUMP MEDIA for 10 years.

That's what is so awesome about this election.

I have no idea why they thought that was a thing to do.

It's like they took a quintuple mortgage on the Trump Hate.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (fV+MH)

87 My heart is breaking for CNN.

I almost typed that with a straight face.

Posted by: bluebell at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (79pEw)

88 73 I believe “intent to nail” is a legitimate defense in Florida.

Posted by: Dr Spank at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (fTG6a)

Aztec roofers hit worst.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

89 'Your honor, may we have a graphing calculator, with exponential function please?'

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (w7peH)

"Your honor, may we book time on the El Capitan supercomputer, please?"

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)

90 Mega MAGA far right Florida court

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (KQk9m)

91 Now settled but Oberlin and the insurance companies disagreed about whether the insurance companies were liable after Oberlin ignored their advice to settle.
Posted by: whig

That's a different issue. The underlying compensatories + interest are insurable. When defendant ignores insurer's advice to settle, defendant is taking chances on what's insurable.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (KAi1n)

92 78 Again, don't just take the corporate money - PUNISH the people in the newsroom responsible. Damage their careers. name and shame.
Posted by: El Mariachi at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (nLFEI)

Like I said in the last post: Require every anchor to close every program by stating that he/she is a worthless, lying piece of shit. For an entire year.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (8zz6B)

========

Chyron on the channel, 24/7:

"CNN has been found liable for defamation in its news stories. It is unexplored how many other news stories are filled with the same slip-shoddy reporting and ill-intent, but the assumption should be that it's a very high percentage. You are better watching The Food Network."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

93 I’m available!!

Posted by: Jim Acostas Well Worn Sphincter at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (9BaH9)

94 82 The Florida panhandle comes through.

Posted by: Good people at January 17, 2025 01:25 PM (dg+HA)

Are those that live in the Florida Panhandle panhandlers?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

95 If ace says something that ace disapproves of, does ace ban ace?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Wouldn't be the first time that happened....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (7fElN)

96 Ace is the ultimate authority on what Ace says and he adjudicates any question of what Ace has said.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (ctrM5)

Jonah may have something to say about that.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (i24o9)

97 Rent me!! I’m cheap!!

Posted by: Jim Acostas Well Worn Sphincter at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (9BaH9)

98 89 'Your honor, may we have a graphing calculator, with exponential function please?'

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (w7peH)

"Your honor, may we book time on the El Capitan supercomputer, please?"
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:26 PM (i24o9)
----

Call me!

Posted by: Deep Thought at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (LxER7)

99 Like I said in the last post: Require every anchor to close every program by stating that he/she is a worthless, lying piece of shit. For an entire year.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
____

I'm sure CNN will use 'convicted felon Trump' several times during the inaguration coverage. For fairness, any R that goes on CNN should mention this lawsuit and a summary of the sausage making behind CNN's lies before answering any questions.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (fs1hN)

100 56 That FL statute is ultimately subject to the Supreme Court's rather un-originalist punitive damages jurisprudence. Given how this trial is going, I suspect the appeal's biggest issue may revolve around the constitutionality of punitive damages award (assuming here that it is gonna be yuge, luxurious even).
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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Beccara was actually one of the sources for the Founders regarding excessive punishment and is why the 8th Amendment, among other amendments, regards proportionality as a requirement for just ruling. You see similar cases in Blackstone and Coke in both civil and criminal matters. Part of it is that punitive damages are public law allowing state judicial punishment for the society to rectify a defendant's behavior. That is a state act of punishment rather than dispute resolution. I think Georgia and maybe some other states also rake off a substantial amount of punitive damages in torts for the government rather than the plaintiff as a matter of public policy.

Punitive damages are not designed to enrich the defendant but to discourage bad behavior by the defendant in the future and by others that might do the same action.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ctrM5)

101 95 If ace says something that ace disapproves of, does ace ban ace?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM (GBKbO)
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Wouldn't be the first time that happened....

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (7fElN)

I think Chuy bans Lamont.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

102 "Subtle decline." And the Titanic had a slight brush with an iceberg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (4tmpE)

103 Does the Weather Channel even do weather any more?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ufFY8)

104 If ace says something that ace disapproves of, does ace ban ace?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM

He's banned himself before.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (Wnv9h)

105 Ep bep bep bep STOP. My penis can only get *so* erect!

Posted by: This level of shadenbonerism might be illegal at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (ybSPO)

106 97 Rent me!! I’m cheap!!

Posted by: Jim Acostas Well Worn Sphincter at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (9BaH9)

$20 same as...nevermind.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (ynpvh)

107 No job too large or small.

C’mon people. We need some cash

Posted by: Jim Acostas Well Worn Sphincter at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (9BaH9)

108 "begin ripping Florida juries as corrupt fiends incapable of fairness or even human thought."

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Yes. New Yorkers, who tolerate violent bums on the subway, poop in the streets and illegals taking over whole hotels and robbing people on the way to work, are so smart and sophisticated. Conversely, the free people in Florida are just dumb Trump voting rubes.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (i7Q7S)

109 " it'd harm the company financially and hinder its ability to report on major breaking news events like wildfires and crises around the globe"

Oh No! Anyway...

Posted by: Geoff Shotts at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (13ivK)

110 103 Does the Weather Channel even do weather any more?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ufFY

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The Weather Channel does music videos.

MTV does reality TV.

Bravo does sports.

ESPN does politics.

MSNBC does inside looks at mental asylums.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

111 Let us hope that after they are done paying out, CNN can't afford a tiny violin with which to play it's funeral dirge.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (40REk)

112 Chyron on the channel, 24/7:

"CNN has been found liable for defamation in its news stories. It is unexplored how many other news stories are filled with the same slip-shoddy reporting and ill-intent, but the assumption should be that it's a very high percentage. You are better watching The Food Network."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

Hah! That would be epic, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (8zz6B)

113 Rent me!! I’m cheap!!

Posted by: Jim Acostas Well Worn Sphincter at January 17, 2025 01:27 PM (9BaH9)

There's always gay pron, Jimmy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (4tmpE)

114 If it be possible, Joe grant us one of your pardons.

Posted by: CNN at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (UpLUT)

115 Without CNN, what will the hobos, illegal aliens and other layabouts who occupy airport departure areas have to watch at 3:00 AM?
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I vote Maverick reruns. Like the theme music.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (4780s)

116 CNN’s Creature Features moved to the 10am time slot.

Posted by: 13times at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (Jyalu)

117 "Does the Weather Channel even do weather any more?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt"

With scolding.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (fV+MH)

118 I don't give a shit. I've already made my millions.

Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (/U5Yz)

119
Not so apparently in Ohio. Just skimmed up the insurance companies v. Oberlin case. Now settled but Oberlin and the insurance companies disagreed about whether the insurance companies were liable after Oberlin ignored their advice to settle.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (ctrM5

If IIRC the carrier did send out a Reservation of Rights letter that specifically cites the policy exclusions and that the insurance company not liable for those damages arising out of those exclusions.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (D6PGr)

120 MSNBC does inside looks at mental asylums.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

MSNBC IS a mental asylum.

Posted by: and the inmates run it at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ybSPO)

121 Husted appointed to Vance's seat. Surprising. I thought he'd be a shoe in for Governor.

Posted by: Tanz der Lemmings at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (Ofj4q)

122 100 56
...

Punitive damages are not designed to enrich the defendant but to discourage bad behavior by the defendant in the future and by others that might do the same action.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ctrM5)

Exactly. If it doesn't hurt CNN as much as it hurt the plaintive, it's not punitive enough.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

123 That's guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!

Posted by: garry trudeau at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (+GVyA)

124 120 MSNBC does inside looks at mental asylums.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

MSNBC IS a mental asylum.
Posted by: and the inmates run it at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (ybSPO)

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And the cameras are inside it.

So...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

125 102 "Subtle decline." And the Titanic had a slight brush with an iceberg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (4tmpE)

Twas a flesh wound.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

126 I will shed no tears for CNN, but the increasing use of defamation lawfare will have a chilling effect on free speech.

Alex Jones is always the canary in the coalmine on such matters

Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (V6W16)

127 CNN: We're in a subtle decline
Jury: Oh? Let us help that along then.

Posted by: crabgrass farmer at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (CTUih)

128 In the words of Curly Bill, "Well, bye"

Posted by: Chicago Vota at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (baPXJ)

129 How many times in the butt?!

Posted by: CNN at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (OA79/)

130 114 If it be possible, Joe grant us one of your pardons.
Posted by: CNN at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (UpLUT)
_______________________________

Speaking of pardons, Jim Clyburn is falling all over himself today telling everyone what a great guy Joe Bide is.

Someone is angling for a much needed pardon, me thinks.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (dIske)

131 CNN has been found liable for defamation in its news stories.

Here's the deal - as plain as I can explain it. You, and I, have freedom of speech. However, if you call my mother a whore ?

That isn't free. I will meet you somewhere of my choosing - and we'll work it all out. If someone calls YOUR mother a whore ? You may choose to act differently.

If, however, you insist that it's your right to call my mother a whore because you're CNN and use the power of law enforcement to protect that right while broadcasting it out to the entire nation ?

Then I support my right to sue you into oblivion in court, win, and bankrupt you and everyone working with or for you calling my mother a whore. I don't care if the damages are "fair". To Hell with fair.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (E0n90)

132 When defendant ignores insurer's advice to settle, defendant is taking chances on what's insurable.
Posted by: SFGoth
_________

It's usually the other way around. Defendant demanding the insurer pony up within policy limits so there's no personal or corporate exposure.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (Dm8we)

133 And the cameras are inside it.

So...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

A witch!

Posted by: Burn her! at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (ybSPO)

134 133 And the cameras are inside it.

So...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

A witch!
Posted by: Burn her! at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (ybSPO)

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Who are you so wise in the ways of science?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

135 I would not object if Weather Channel went full busty weather ladies...

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (KQk9m)

136 BREAKING: FBI Agent who said New Orleans attack was not a ‘Terrorist Attack,’ reassigned.

Good Riddance

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (FCrpy)

137 136 BREAKING: FBI Agent who said New Orleans attack was not a ‘Terrorist Attack,’ reassigned.

Good Riddance
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (FCrpy)

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So, a terrorist attack in St. Louis is going to be called not a terrorist attack in the next few months?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

138 127 CNN: We're in a subtle decline
Jury: Oh? Let us help that along then.
Posted by: crabgrass farmer at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (CTUih)


Lol. Think Chevy chase on an aluminum saucer all waxed up with Pam going down the snow hill in christmas vacation.

Posted by: CNN at January 17, 2025 01:33 PM (OA79/)

139 'Your honor, may we have a rubber stamp that says ",000"?
We are getting serious writer's cramp back here.'

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:33 PM (w7peH)

140 The one with the nose ring?Send her to Alaska.

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (KQk9m)

141 "I would not object if Weather Channel went full busty weather ladies...
Posted by: steevy"

Well...yeah.

Butty ladies would be better tho.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (fV+MH)

142 131 CNN has been found liable for defamation in its news stories.

Here's the deal - as plain as I can explain it. You, and I, have freedom of speech. However, if you call my mother a whore ?

That isn't free. I will meet you somewhere of my choosing - and we'll work it all out. If someone calls YOUR mother a whore ? You may choose to act differently.

If, however, you insist that it's your right to call my mother a whore because you're CNN and use the power of law enforcement to protect that right while broadcasting it out to the entire nation ?

Then I support my right to sue you into oblivion in court, win, and bankrupt you and everyone working with or for you calling my mother a whore. I don't care if the damages are "fair". To Hell with fair.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (E0n90)

We have free speech. We are also responsible for our free speech. Just like we have a 2nd Amendment right to arms and are responsible for our use of said arms.
Sorry Michelle Fields. No Arms for you!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

143 Who are you so wise in the ways of science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

Which is how we know the earth to be banana shaped.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (z/ifB)

144 141 "I would not object if Weather Channel went full busty weather ladies...
Posted by: steevy"

Well...yeah.

Butty ladies would be better tho.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (fV+MH)

Imported Latin American Weather girls?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

145 How is it that the banner ad actually appears to be inserted within the first comment?

Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (z/ifB)

146 145 How is it that the banner ad actually appears to be inserted within the first comment?
Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (z/ifB)

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A couple of days ago, everyone was blaming me for that!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

147 104 If ace says something that ace disapproves of, does ace ban ace?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:24 PM

He's banned himself before.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:29 PM (Wnv9h)

After the shelves, right?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (OA79/)

148 BREAKING: FBI Agent who said New Orleans attack was not a ‘Terrorist Attack,’ reassigned.

Good Riddance
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (FCrpy)

If she wasn't reassigned to collecting penguin turds on Adak, it's not sufficient punishment.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (8zz6B)

149 141 "I would not object if Weather Channel went full busty weather ladies...
Posted by: steevy"

Well...yeah.

Butty ladies would be better tho.
Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (fV+MH)

I would be OK with using H1b visas to hire the Mexican Weather Ladies

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (FCrpy)

150 This is so sweet, I hope it keeps up and the left’s pain gets even worse after Monday.

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM (jgmnb)

151 Jonah may have something to say about that.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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Jonah lacks standing because he is too fat to get up off the couch.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (ctrM5)

152 125 102 "Subtle decline." And the Titanic had a slight brush with an iceberg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (4tmpE)

Twas a flesh wound.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

"Just a bit outside......"
--In loving memory of Bob Uecker

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (N39Ws)

153 121 Husted appointed to Vance's seat. Surprising. I thought he'd be a shoe in for Governor.
Posted by: Tanz der Lemmings at January 17, 2025 01:30 PM (Ofj4q)

Probably was...and probably is a lock to keep the seat in 2026...not a firebrand conservative, but OH doesn't tend to elect a lot of firebrands...Vance was the exception.

We'll see if Vivek really wants the Gov seat now, b/c he'd probably win that primary...it would be a harder election though, although that does depend on the D candidate...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (exHjb)

154

Can they rent out Andi Cooper's anus for a few dollars to Hollywood?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (et1vG)

155 Ads, ads, ads...

The new improved AoS is inserting ads willy nilly throughout and has actually been crashing almost daily. Twice daily on Sundays and holidays.

On the positive, lots of pics of hot momma with cute kids.
Weird, same ads are popping up everywhere for me.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (/lPRQ)

156 He should agree to reduce the punitive damages if they will agree to:
1) 1 hour of "dealer's choice" where he gets to re-broadcast a YouTube streamer of his choice on CNN and,
2) 1 hour of the Gorilla Channel on CNN
3) both hours have to be a better time slot than Jim Acosta's.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (fPmNY)

157
CNN should put Fake Jake on at 3 AM selling steak knifes from China.

I think that's the best use of his skills.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (iJfKG)

158 I will shed no tears for CNN, but the increasing use of defamation lawfare will have a chilling effect on free speech. Alex Jones is always the canary in the coalmine on such matters.

Again - free speech was never, originally defined - the idea that you are free from push-back to say whatever you want about anyone you want.

It was the freedom to rent time, supply the ink and paper, and have your opinions printed so that you could post that on the public square.

Call my mother a whore ? You were never, as originally defined, protected from me. Just from the government.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (E0n90)

159 A couple of days ago, everyone was blaming me for that!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Yeah, but we blame you for everything.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (77rzZ)

160 139 'Your honor, may we have a rubber stamp that says ",000"?
We are getting serious writer's cramp back here.'
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:33 PM (w7peH

$1B


Nice and easy.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (OA79/)

161 159 A couple of days ago, everyone was blaming me for that!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Yeah, but we blame you for everything.
Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (77rzZ)

======

Fairly, I might add.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

162 NYPost reporting that the swearing in on Monday will NOT take place outside, but instead, inside the Rotunda. Due to cold temps. Guess we can't have photos of all the supporters on the Mall now, can we.

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (IQ6Gq)

163 If ace says something that ace disapproves of, does ace ban ace?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Partially depends on whether Bearded Ace or Ace did the dirty deed.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (ctrM5)

164 143 Who are you so wise in the ways of science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

Which is how we know the earth to be banana shaped.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (z/ifB)

Feminists would insist it's vulva-shaped. Who wants to live on the clitoris?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

165 160 $1B


Nice and easy.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (OA79/)

======

1 Bitcoin it is, then!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)

166 On the positive, lots of pics of hot momma with cute kids.
Weird, same ads are popping up everywhere for me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (/lPRQ)

...

Tell us you're clicking on them every time without telling us.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (z/ifB)

167 159 A couple of days ago, everyone was blaming me for that!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Yeah, but we blame you for everything.
Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (77rzZ)

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Fairly, I might add.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (GBKbO)
----
Adobe InDesign just crashed on me a few minutes ago. I assume you are responsible for that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:38 PM (7fElN)

168 How long until they announce damages?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:38 PM (NUdiI)

169 167 Adobe InDesign just crashed on me a few minutes ago. I assume you are responsible for that?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:38 PM (7fElN)

==========

Death to InDesign!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

170 correction:


CNN should put Jim Acosta on at 3 AM selling steak knifes from China.

I think that's the best use of his skills.


Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2025 01:38 PM (iJfKG)

171 It's usually the other way around. Defendant demanding the insurer pony up within policy limits so there's no personal or corporate exposure.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Usually

Posted by: SFGoth at January 17, 2025 01:39 PM (KAi1n)

172 In other news, Stuffy Steffy is still wearing her super tight green pants (not quite camel-toey) and sexy silky top.

Nice Bod Brooke is in a black outfit with boots, confronting Scrawny Taylor, who has a nice pair of jeans on.

Meanwhile, Lee and Mint Munching Poppy are arguing over a paternity test, bringing up Clint Howard's dead character. He was NOT the father!

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 17, 2025 01:39 PM (ufFY8)

173 Who are you so wise in the ways of science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

Which is how we know the earth to be banana shaped.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (z/ifB)

Feminists would insist it's vulva-shaped. Who wants to live on the clitoris?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

Location, location, location.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:39 PM (i24o9)

174 The Hardest Hit here has to be retiring politicians, who no longer have the media post to fall back to as the media fails, and will be relegated to visiting professor and think tank roles with virtually no screen time anywhere.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:39 PM (z/ifB)

175 Bloom County informed me that the Earth is shaped like a burrito.

Who am I to dispute that?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Day 4 of Funemployment at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (Ad8y9)

176 Hopefully the insurance companies will do to "news" organizations the way they did California homes. Nope, no insurance for you, too expensive to pay out. And you are realllllllllly at risk now.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (NMT5x)

177 CNN could do one of those boomer-soother shows, like 'CBS Good Morning,' with the nice man and the nice lady drinking decaf, talking softly, discussing non-political fluff. Televised valium.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (w7peH)

178 BREAKING: FBI Agent who said New Orleans attack was not a ‘Terrorist Attack,’ reassigned.

Good Riddance
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

=========

DoD independently determined it was and raised their threat posture explicitly citing NOLA and LV.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (/lPRQ)

179 "We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You"

-
You mean the earthquakes and hurricanes caused by global warming? And don't forget the scourge of black.holes!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (78MJH)

180 The first amendment also includes … petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I assume that includes the courts.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (D6PGr)

181 157
CNN should put Fake Jake on at 3 AM selling steak knifes from China.

I think that's the best use of his skills.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (iJfKG)

Randomly turned TV to one of the sales networks. They were hawking scissors as being unbreakable when the pair being used to cut jeans broke, live on TV. All of a sudden, the number of sales of those scissors slowed to a halt. LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

182 Feminists would insist it's vulva-shaped. Who wants to live on the clitoris?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

Location, location, location.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:39 PM (i24o9)


I see you've read about it. The clitoris is like Hawaii. Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to spend every waking moment of my life there.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (E0n90)

183 This is small but seems important, A Georgia federal judge has blocked a disparate impact settlement between the Biden DOJ and Cobb County, saying its racial quota for hiring African American firefighters is unconstitutional.

x.com/fedjudges/status/
1880303767926792668

Posted by: banana Dream at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (Y6IkP)

184 Is CNN self insured?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (NUdiI)

185 Adobe InDesign just crashed on me a few minutes ago. I assume you are responsible for that?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 17, 2025 01:38 PM (7fElN)

Adobe Distiller just failed to create a .pdf, because it did not have the Callibri font.

And then it offered to have me try their "AI" implementation.

Priorities, man.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (i24o9)

186 "I would be OK with using H1b visas to hire the Mexican Weather Ladies
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio"

RIGHT?

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (fV+MH)

187 It's usually the other way around. Defendant demanding the insurer pony up within policy limits so there's no personal or corporate exposure.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Usually
Posted by: SFGoth
________
Plus (and I dont know how it is in cali) consent policies are rare. The insurer can settle whether you like it or not.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (Dm8we)

188 158 I will shed no tears for CNN, but the increasing use of defamation lawfare will have a chilling effect on free speech. Alex Jones is always the canary in the coalmine on such matters.

Again - free speech was never, originally defined - the idea that you are free from push-back to say whatever you want about anyone you want.

It was the freedom to rent time, supply the ink and paper, and have your opinions printed so that you could post that on the public square.

Call my mother a whore ? You were never, as originally defined, protected from me. Just from the government.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (E0n90)

There's a more polite way to say it, but possibly more insulting:
"Well, your Mom certainly was no Virgin Mary!"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:42 PM (ynpvh)

189 Beccara was actually one of the sources for the Founders regarding excessive punishment and is why the 8th Amendment, among other amendments, regards proportionality as a requirement for just ruling. You see similar cases in Blackstone and Coke in both civil and criminal matters. Part of it is that punitive damages are public law allowing state judicial punishment for the society to rectify a defendant's behavior. That is a state act of punishment rather than dispute resolution. I think Georgia and maybe some other states also rake off a substantial amount of punitive damages in torts for the government rather than the plaintiff as a matter of public policy.

Punitive damages are not designed to enrich the defendant but to discourage bad behavior by the defendant in the future and by others that might do the same action.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:28 PM (ctrM5

The Supreme Court's punitive damages jurisprudence isn't based on the 8th Amendment.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 01:42 PM (wKJf5)

190 I see you've read about it. The clitoris is like Hawaii. Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to spend every waking moment of my life there.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (E0n90)

I could live there.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:42 PM (i24o9)

191 Convicted Disinformation Outfit CNN: Our Finances Are In Tough Shape and If You Hit Us With Major Punitive Damages We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You
---
Also, Mostly Peaceful Burn and Pillage

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (krQz2)

192 Hawaii actually exists.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (NUdiI)

193 Daily reminder: CNN does not exist to make money, they exist to push propaganda for the regime.

This will hurt, but it won’t break them… as long as they stay effective at lying to the masses.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (9yLUw)

194 Is CNN self insured?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (NUdiI)

One would think they would insist upon an insurer with a good reputation.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (8zz6B)

195 I see you've read about it. The clitoris is like Hawaii. Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to spend every waking moment of my life there.
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (E0n90)

I could live there.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 01:42 PM (i24o9)


Some people are more sensitive to smell that others. And there's no arguing personal tastes.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (E0n90)

196 54 Again, don't just take the corporate money - PUNISH the people in the newsroom responsible. Damage their careers. name and shame.
Posted by: El Mariachi at January 17, 2025 01:22 PM (nLFEI)

I want people made Permanently Homeless.

It's the only good non-violent punishment.

Posted by: XTC at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (sm6Pk)

197 It's usually the other way around. Defendant demanding the insurer pony up within policy limits so there's no personal or corporate exposure.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
======
Most insurers refuse to cover intentional misconduct including criminal actions in their fine print. Often there is insurance company versus insured in court actions after some loss if the insurance company can blame intentional or criminal misconduct of the insured. State laws and court cases hash that distinction including contractual wording differently depending on the state.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (ctrM5)

198 Bloom County informed me that the Earth is shaped like a burrito.

Who am I to dispute that?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Day 4 of Funemployment at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (Ad8y9)


They should have spent more time studying the works of Sir Bedevere.

https://youtu.be/a_i24MxyFng

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:43 PM (ExV1e)

199 CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.
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Finish himthem!

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (krQz2)

200 It's too bad Tapper was not named individually as a defendant in the case. Not sure why he wasn't. I'm sure there is a good reason. But it would have been nice if he was and was jointly liable for the judgment.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (bNf8H)

201 179 "We Won't Be Able to Cover Hurricanes and Earthquakes for You"

-
You mean the earthquakes and hurricanes caused by global warming? And don't forget the scourge of black.holes!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (78MJH)

But enough about Don Lemon...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

202 Disinformation is when you get in the way when CNN is trying to nail the m*th*rf*ck*r.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (78MJH)

203 CNN acts like they're the only source of news. Anyone want to break the news to them about that?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (Q4IgG)

204 Plus (and I dont know how it is in cali) consent policies are rare. The insurer can settle whether you like it or not.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (Dm8we)

Yep. I know IBM and UPS had ‘consent’ policies, most of those are with large self insured retention limits.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (D6PGr)

205 The UK is gone.

While at some sort of protest, a man films a woman who calls him a, "nonce." In UK slang, this is a synonym for pedo. He starts shouting for the police who are very close by and pushes her into their hands, telling them she has committed a public order offense on video and she called him a pedo. The police take the man's complaint seriously and cart her away.

http://tiny.cc/ei86001

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (Odg76)

206 Sweep the knee.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:45 PM (NUdiI)

207 Bloom County informed me that the Earth is shaped like a burrito.

Who am I to dispute that?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Day 4 of Funemployment at January 17, 2025 01:40 PM (Ad8y9)
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A burrito as short as it is round, also with rounded ends.

Yeah, maybe

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:45 PM (krQz2)

208 143 Who are you so wise in the ways of science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

Which is how we know the earth to be banana shaped.
Posted by: TexasDan at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (z/ifB)

Look, if we built a large, wooden badger......

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:45 PM (LxER7)

209 54 Again, don't just take the corporate money - PUNISH the people in the newsroom responsible. Damage their careers. name and shame.
Posted by: El Mariachi

Technically you can do that via a lawsuit holding each individual engaged in the defamation acts as well as their corporation. Usually not done though as it complicates matters of going after the deep pockets. Seen it done in discrimination cases though successfully.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:45 PM (ctrM5)

210 This is small but seems important, A Georgia federal judge has blocked a disparate impact settlement between the Biden DOJ and Cobb County, saying its racial quota for hiring African American firefighters is unconstitutional.

x.com/fedjudges/status/
1880303767926792668
Posted by: banana Dream at January 17, 2025 01:41 PM (Y6IkP)


Give Joey a couple minutes and he'll ratify the 29th Amendment.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:45 PM (ExV1e)

211 On the positive, lots of pics of hot momma with cute kids.
Weird, same ads are popping up everywhere for me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (/lPRQ)
...

Tell us you're clicking on them every time without telling us.
Posted by: TexasDan
===

Tempting,, but the tag line, "Millionaires/billionaires hate this video" isn't compelling. I suspect it is click-bait.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:45 PM (/lPRQ)

212
EM PUMPERNICKLE FOADDY-SEBUN!11!1!

Posted by: Maxine Waters' Hair at January 17, 2025 01:46 PM (5hfjS)

213 I believe “intent to nail”...
Posted by: Dr Spank


Used to date her.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 17, 2025 01:46 PM (NMT5x)

214 Plaintiff attorneys are experts in wording allegations in lawsuits that skirts all the exclusions found in the insurance policy.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:46 PM (D6PGr)

215 "Millionaires and billionaires hate click bait. Click here to stick it to them!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:46 PM (GBKbO)

216 205 The whole continent is gone. Pull USA out of NATO. There is nothing worth fighting for over there, certainly nothing that you can credibly call 'freedom.'

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (w7peH)

217 On the positive, lots of pics of hot momma with cute kids.
Weird, same ads are popping up everywhere for me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:36 PM (/lPRQ)
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Billionaires want to DESTROY that video!

Fuckin' asshole billionaires.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (krQz2)

218 Good news!
The phone company has evidently reached China and is now filling the hole they were digging in my yard!

The girl spawn wants to go shopping in Bloomington and is going to bribe me, with donuts, to drive her!

It's 40 degrees outside and melting snow and ice are falling off the roof! Ka-thud!!!

No bad news to report at this time. Carry on.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (4XwPj)

219
CNN should start a GoFundMe to travel to cover news stories.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (+oR7L)

220 149 141 "I would not object if Weather Channel went full busty weather ladies...
Posted by: steevy"

Well...yeah.

Butty ladies would be better tho.
Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (fV+MH)

I would be OK with using H1b visas to hire the Mexican Weather Ladies
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 17, 2025 01:35 PM

I'll just share this, then. She's a singer. This is a side gig.

https://youtu.be/ycLjHMVl5vU?si=36KXxZR2tNTJPnU5

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (Wnv9h)

221 Am I wrong for wanting the settlement to include the requirement that CNN, twice per hour, announce on air that they're malicious liars?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (ExV1e)

222 CNN acts like they're the only source of news. Anyone want to break the news to them about that?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (Q4IgG)
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They are fungiable.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (krQz2)

223 Eric Stratton isn’t enough. Try Yassir Arafat, Where is my money?”

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (QSrLX)

224 Well, doesn't that just beat off

ALL!!!

I meant, all.

Posted by: CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (Y1sOo)

225 Am I wrong for wanting the settlement to include the requirement that CNN, twice per hour, announce on air that they're malicious liars?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (ExV1e

Treasonous malicious liars

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (D6PGr)

226 Oh gosh I sure hope the jury does not lodge a billion dollar punitive fine that makes CNN go bankrupt. That would be terrible.

Posted by: blaster at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (V5wpW)

227 199 CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.
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Finish himthem!
Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (krQz2)
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Sweep the leg.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 01:49 PM (G0vdT)

228 Am I wrong for wanting the settlement to include the requirement that CNN, twice per hour, announce on air that they're malicious liars?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (ExV1e)
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Only if Trump owned the network.

But he'd probably have to put up a throbbing red chyron saying "Lying!"

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:49 PM (krQz2)

229 219
CNN should start a GoFundMe to travel to cover news stories.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (+oR7L)

"Learn to Code" GoFundMe for CNN's reporters and staff...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

230 Octogenerians hardest hit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:49 PM (NUdiI)

231 We won't be able to start City burning Riots for you!

Posted by: TATER at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (QxEBj)

232 I see you've read about it. The clitoris is like Hawaii. Nice place to visit. Wouldn't want to spend every waking moment of my life there.

Posted by: What Willl We Do

Used to live in Hawaii. Always said it is a nice place to live if you are financially independent of the local economy but would not want to visit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (/lPRQ)

233 Most insurers refuse to cover intentional misconduct including criminal actions in their fine print. Often there is insurance company versus insured in court actions after some loss if the insurance company can blame intentional or criminal misconduct of the insured. State laws and court cases hash that distinction including contractual wording differently depending on the state.
Posted by: whig
________

Not just refusal. It's prohibited to insure against criminal acts and most intentional torts in many, if not all, states.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (Dm8we)

234 "CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them."

Just came here to say:

SPEED THE DECLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: mmack at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (wqabK)

235 CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.
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Finish himthem!
Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:44 PM (krQz2)
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Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 01:49 PM (G0vdT)
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With a sledge...from the front.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (krQz2)

236 The Surgeon General should require CNN to maintain a banner at all times that says "We are convicted liars and you could be harmed by believing anything we say."

Posted by: blaster at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (V5wpW)

237 Yeah, who doesn't cry "poverty" to a jury before getting hit with punitives?

Posted by: Octochicken at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (oCS0o)

238 Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich


What is this in reference to?

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)

239 All of the cable and network news stations could get someone to competently read the news for 200k a year. And that’s over paying them.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (D6PGr)

240 The Supreme Court's punitive damages jurisprudence isn't based on the 8th Amendment.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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If you read carefully, I said among other amendments as a qualifier. In Gore, it was a due process violation under the 14th amendment (which btw is where the originalist analysis technically begins) but the same principles existed even before the Constitution itself was ratified.

Most of the argument in Gore centered around worries about opening a can of worms involving the Erie doctrine (aka no federal common law allowed anymore) and exactly how to instruct state courts and federal courts hearing diversity cases--how much is too much.

Proportionality of punishment to fit the offense is a basic originalist concept whether you are discussing civil or criminal action.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

241 236 The Surgeon General should require CNN to maintain a banner at all times that says "We are convicted liars and you could be harmed by believing anything we say."
Posted by: blaster at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (V5wpW)

=======

Rachel Maddow should have a chyron on screen at all times that says "I have argued in court that what I say is entertainment, not news. You should not believe me any more than you believe Tom Cruise in a movie."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

242
I can't wait to hear the media, which has assured us for two years that juries in very leftwing districts are 100% fair and impartial, begin ripping Florida juries as corrupt fiends incapable of fairness or even human thought.


I guarantee the guy that pulls quotes from DU is going to have some gems.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (t0Rmr)

243 225 Am I wrong for wanting the settlement to include the requirement that CNN, twice per hour, announce on air that they're malicious liars?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (ExV1e

Treasonous malicious liars

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:48 PM (D6PGr)

They have giant "L"s on their foreheads during newscasts. The "L" can stand for Liars or Losers. Both work.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (ynpvh)

244 CNN Lawyer: Please sir! They're not very good at their jobs! They'll be destitute! They'll have to sell the children!

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (krQz2)

245 Whig, are you an attorney?

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (77rzZ)

246 Finish them. CNN Delenda Est.

Posted by: setnaffa at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (dKSNq)

247 Kier Starmer is a nonce.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (fs1hN)

248 > CNN's own lawyer says that CNN is in "a subtle decline" so that the jury doesn't crush them.
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"Subtle decline?"

I don't think he understands the meaning of those words in that order.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (Q4IgG)

249 The ahole that leaked Israeli attack plans caught:

x.com/EYakoby/status/
1880320429359042705

Posted by: banana Dream at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (Y6IkP)

250 247 Kier Starmer is a nonce.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (fs1hN)

======

And not going anywhere for 4 more years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

251 238 Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich


What is this in reference to?
Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)
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Oh my, Karate Kid!

Wax on, Wax off is another famous quote.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (G0vdT)

252 Yeah, who doesn't cry "poverty" to a jury before getting hit with punitives?
Posted by: Octochicken at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (oCS0o)



"Please have pity on us, Your Honor. We are orphans."

Posted by: Menendez Bros. at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (8zz6B)

253 Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (Dm8we)

And exclusions aren’t in fine print . In fact many states require exclusions, notice to cancel, etc to be in a specific size font.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (D6PGr)

254 Welcome to Mortal Combat, CNN.
Please Jury - FINISH THEM!

Posted by: Tracy at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (x58Cx)

255 Does Gavin know there are no more Lithium-Ion batteries available for his EV dream? Maybe he should visit Moss Landing and do his shoulder shimmy.
Posted by: wth at January 17, 2025 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

Newsome is a snake standing upright.
That's not a shoulder shimmy, it's a slither.
It's his body trying to unass the area, but unable to because he's upright.

Posted by: OneEyedJack puts a parka on over his jacket. at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (FCbAQ)

256 238 Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich


What is this in reference to?

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)

Karate Kid, I believe.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (ynpvh)

257 216 205 The whole continent is gone. Pull USA out of NATO. There is nothing worth fighting for over there, certainly nothing that you can credibly call 'freedom.'
Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (w7peH)

———

Agree. The USA should’ve just stuck to the Monroe Doctrine and stayed out of WW1.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (Vh9CX)

258 Rachel Maddow should have a chyron on screen at all times that says "I have argued in court that what I say is entertainment, not news. You should not believe me any more than you believe Tom Cruise in a movie."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (GBKbO)

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Less. Less than a Cruise movie.

You should believe a world-threatening chimera virus before believing Madcow Disease.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (krQz2)

259 Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me."

Posted by: Henry Hill at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (OBSRZ)

260 Oh my, Karate Kid!

Wax on, Wax off is another famous quote.
Posted by: WisRich

OK, thanks. It's been ages since I saw that movie.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (77rzZ)

261 I would be OK with using H1b visas to hire the Mexican Weather Ladies
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio


Eh, unless they are offering it for $20, same as in town, then they can stay where they are and just send the video feed.

But in the spirit of the idea, if I had to choose anyone to come here on H1B, it would be those lovely lasses.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (NMT5x)

262 257 Agree. The USA should’ve just stuck to the Monroe Doctrine and stayed out of WW1.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (Vh9CX)

======

Wilson won re-election in 1916 promising to keep America out of the war.

By April of 1917, about a week after his second inauguration, America entered the war.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

263 Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich


What is this in reference to?

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)

Karate Kid, I believe.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (ynpvh)
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‘Tis

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (krQz2)

264 Butty ladies would be better tho.
Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 01:34 PM (fV+MH

In Britain, butty ladies are otherwise known as sammich wimmen.

Posted by: ... at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (P4Sr7)

265 251 238 Sweep the leg.
Posted by: WisRich


What is this in reference to?
Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)
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Oh my, Karate Kid!

Wax on, Wax off is another famous quote.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 01:52 PM (G0vdT)

What almost got it an "R" rating was the "wax off" part...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (ynpvh)

266 Not just refusal. It's prohibited to insure against criminal acts and most intentional torts in many, if not all, states.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba

Depends on the state, WA outlawed self defense insurance for example because it claimed it would insure criminal acts. Other states have not because it is dependent on the facts in a particular case whether a shooting is justified or not.

Most of the insurance involves post hoc where you get someone accused of negligence on a homeowner's policy being denied payment if they get criminal charges stemming from teh event. Sometimes courts have ruled that insurance must pay depending on a whole host of factors.

Insurance companies live in court so for the most part, they often try to deny and litigate any claims that cost them too much.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (ctrM5)

267 Proportionality of punishment to fit the offense is a basic originalist concept whether you are discussing civil or criminal action.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)

Scalia disagreed. So did Thomas.

You'd think that might give you some pause. But you're never very modest about these things.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (wKJf5)

268 Subtle decline = Pining for the fjords

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (wBaIH)

269 31 Doesn't CNN carry liability insurance for this type of thing?

max them out, jury
Posted by: kallisto at January 17, 2025 01:20 PM (dCxaZ)

Yes, and the insurance company is the one that usually provides the attorney to defend the insured.

That said, there is probably a deductible that the insured is required to pay, and anything over that is the insurance company's part.

The positive part is that the insurance company will probably make it quite clear that they will drop the insured if the persons responsible for the story are not given their walking papers.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (k1E2D)

270 I’ve heard it said some men go gay precisely because the sight of the clitoris and vulva are so horrifying to them, they’d rather have peeners inside them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (9yLUw)

271 Newsome is a snake standing upright.
That's not a shoulder shimmy, it's a slither.
It's his body trying to unass the area, but unable to because he's upright.

Posted by: OneEyedJack puts a parka on over his jacket. at January 17, 2025 01:53 PM (FCbAQ)
---
Can he account for his whereabouts in Year 0?

A garden maybe?

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (krQz2)

272 In Britain, butty ladies are otherwise known as sammich wimmen.
Posted by: ... at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (P4Sr7)

Toad in the hole.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (ufFY8)

273 This is CNN's Wallet

Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (wtvvX)

274 DJT should find a way to use the Fairness Doctrine to force cable and broadcast news (and entertainment shows) to show Community Notes as is done on X.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (8zz6B)

275 I thought Biden said there was no more fact checking.

Posted by: Brad at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (QxEBj)

276 268 Subtle decline = Pining for the fjords

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (wBaIH)

At least the jurors can nail it to the perch...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:57 PM (ynpvh)

277 Has anyone ever done crane without having the shit kicked out of them?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:57 PM (NUdiI)

278 CNN and Joe: Subtle Decliners

Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 01:57 PM (wtvvX)

279 Agree. The USA should’ve just stuck to the Monroe Doctrine and stayed out of WW1.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
___________

The Monroe Doctrine was a joke for the first 75 years, entirely dependent on the goodwill of the Brits and their navy.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 01:58 PM (Dm8we)

280 270 I’ve heard it said some men go gay precisely because the sight of the clitoris and vulva are so horrifying to them, they’d rather have peeners inside them.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (9yLUw)

Only the gay ones.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

281 277 Has anyone ever done crane without having the shit kicked out of them?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:57 PM (NUdiI)

Frazier Crane's lovers?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

282 My favorite soda right now: CNN Crush.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 01:58 PM (krQz2)

283 272 In Britain, butty ladies are otherwise known as sammich wimmen.
Posted by: ... at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (P4Sr7)

Toad in the hole.
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (ufFY

Bang hers and mash

Posted by: Bubble and squeak at January 17, 2025 01:59 PM (ybSPO)

284 I'll just share this, then. She's a singer. This is a side gig.

https://youtu.be/ycLjHMVl5vU
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 01:47 PM (Wnv9h)


That's hilarious.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)

285 >>> This is CNN's Wallet
Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (wtvvX)


This is CNN's prison wallet.

Posted by: banana Dream at January 17, 2025 01:59 PM (Y6IkP)

286 Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 01:57 PM (NUdiI)

Frazier Crane's lovers?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

Lilith?

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 17, 2025 01:59 PM (ufFY8)

287 Wilson won re-election in 1916 promising to keep America out of the war.

By April of 1917, about a week after his second inauguration, America entered the war.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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In fairness to Wilson, if you have read Tuchman's magnificent work on the Zimmerman Telegraph, the Germans forced Wilson into supporting congressional declaration of war. Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge summed it up best--Wilson did not intend to go to war but he was kicked into doing so by events beyond his control.

I loathe Wilson but for whatever his faults, Germans made it impossible for him (and Congress) to resist as Germany proposed alliance with Mexico to go to war and invade the US Southwest. And then did it again. And did so on telegraph lines specifically given to Germany by Wilson against the protest of the US State Dept. to use for the peace process.

Then German Foreign Minister Zimmerman admitted sending the telegraphs in an open press conference. That destroyed those saying it was a fake by the Brits.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

288 Most insurers refuse to cover intentional misconduct including criminal actions
——

Hm. How ‘bout engineered viruses tweaked in a lab to increase transmissibility.

Or experimental medical trials and brandy new exotic vaccines?

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:00 PM (qBPIs)

289 My connection to CNN is a friend and I pulled a help wanted paper off a bulletin board to move a girl from Louisiana to Atlanta with truck and trailer provided, to work at this new 24 Hour News Station.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 02:00 PM (D6PGr)

290 270 I’ve heard it said some men go gay precisely because the sight of the clitoris and vulva are so horrifying to them, they’d rather have peeners inside them.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 01:56 PM (9yLUw)

Gynecologists can tell you it's moreso the smell than the sight.

Posted by: Oh the stories of hygiene deficiency at January 17, 2025 02:00 PM (ybSPO)

291 Thank God The Talk is gone.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at January 17, 2025 02:00 PM (ufFY8)

292 288 Most insurers refuse to cover intentional misconduct including criminal actions
——

Hm. How ‘bout engineered viruses tweaked in a lab to increase transmissibility.

Or experimental medical trials and brandy new exotic vaccines?

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:00 PM (qBPIs)

Got drunk on brandy. Not a fan.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (ynpvh)

293 Karate Kid crane.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (NUdiI)

294 To save costs, CNN should move to TikTok with all its news and opinions.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (VNX3d)

295 270 I’ve heard it said some men go gay precisely because the sight of the clitoris and vulva are so horrifying to them, they’d rather have peeners inside them.

Posted by: BurtTC
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They are pretty scary if you watch Pink Floyd's The Wall movie. Vagina dentata. In fairness, the Judge's portrayal makes assholes pretty unappealing as well.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (ctrM5)

296 293 Karate Kid crane.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (NUdiI)

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How did karate kid win the competition when kicks to the face were explicitly not allowed?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

297 A nice tall, bubbly, refreshing glass of CNN Crush.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (krQz2)

298 Always said it is a nice place to live if you are financially independent of the local economy but would not want to visit.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 17, 2025 01:50 PM (/lPRQ)

Still talking about Hawaii, right?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 02:02 PM (i24o9)

299
Give Joey a couple minutes and he'll ratify the 29th Amendment.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


He could write some new amendments of his own.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2025 02:02 PM (63Dwl)

300 280!Only the gay ones.

——

If you’re putting it in another man, it’s a gay one.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:02 PM (9yLUw)

301 That said, there is probably a deductible that the insured is required to pay, and anything over that is the insurance company's part.

The positive part is that the insurance company will probably make it quite clear that they will drop the insured if the persons responsible for the story are not given their walking papers.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at January 17, 2025 01:55 PM (k1E2D)
-____________________________

Major news outlets will have a Professional Liability Policy. It's likely written as a Self-insured Retention policy which means that CNN would handle it (or Warner Bros. more likely) up to a certain reserve threshold. Insurances companies place a reserve threshold on when something would become reportable to them and involve their staff (and handling). My guess is that the Re-insurance company has been involved for sometime, and that CNN (Warner Bros.) have already signed their SIR deductible over to them.

The Reinsurer cannot dictate staff changes at CNN, they can only move rates to accommodate the risk. Which, in turn, pressures the insured (CNN) to behave a certain way.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 02:02 PM (dIske)

302 293 Karate Kid crane.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 17, 2025 02:01 PM (NUdiI)

This is the HQ. Expect what you write to be twisted and misused.

When the Karate Kid wax off, does he Come on Eileen?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 02:02 PM (ynpvh)

303 Mr. Jen wants to know if Biden will pardon CNN?

Posted by: Jen the original at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (iryqx)

304 What? That’s pretty gay. Normal males: We spend 9 months inside, and the rest of our lives trying to get back in

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (qBPIs)

305 Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:59 PM (ctrM5)

And the Germans used an outdated version of their code that they thought the Brits wouldn't know how to decipher.
But the Brits had the keys to that older code because they had taken them from Wilhelm Wasmuss, often called "the German Lawrence," who had been a German intelligence agent in the Mideast earlier in the war.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)

306 > I’ve heard it said some men go gay precisely because the sight of the clitoris and vulva are so horrifying to them, they’d rather have peeners inside them.

Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (Odg76)

307 303 Mr. Jen wants to know if Biden will pardon CNN?

Posted by: Jen the original at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (iryqx)

Hmmm. Does the Pardon power cover entities other than people and turkeys?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 02:04 PM (ynpvh)

308 In other words, laydees, keep ‘em clean.

Or your man might end up going to the gay bathhouses.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:04 PM (9yLUw)

309 They're not losing viewers, it's just that their appeal has become more selective.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 17, 2025 02:04 PM (y9ksN)

310 k bye

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 02:04 PM (fV+MH)

311 I was weirded out when I saw Barack's vagina.

Posted by: Big Mike at January 17, 2025 02:05 PM (ufFY8)

312 See Also: Errors and Omissions. One Would think this shit would bite them. Would think. One would be wrong.

Floyds of England or whoever will cover anything. Worse than Vegas

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:05 PM (qBPIs)

313 308 In other words, laydees, keep ‘em clean.

Or your man might end up going to the gay bathhouses.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:04 PM (9yLUw)

And start wearing crocs.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

314 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?
Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (Odg76)
_____________________

Nah, doesn't bother me. What really scared the hell out of me was when I found four men's watches and a couple rings in there.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 02:05 PM (dIske)

315 311 I was weirded out when I saw Barack's vagina.
Posted by: Big Mike
___

This site never fails.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM (fs1hN)

316 And the Germans used an outdated version of their code that they thought the Brits wouldn't know how to decipher.
But the Brits had the keys to that older code because they had taken them from Wilhelm Wasmuss, often called "the German Lawrence," who had been a German intelligence agent in the Mideast earlier in the war.
Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)


I remember reading Tuchman's Zimmerman Telegram, but i forget how the Brits were able to intercept the coded message. Had they tapped into the cable somewhere?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM (8zz6B)

317 315 This site never fails.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM (fs1hN)

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But we often disappoint ace.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

318 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?
Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (Odg76)

There's a reason they call it "bumping uglies."

Posted by: pookysgirl, putting some knowledge at January 17, 2025 02:07 PM (dtlDP)

319 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?
——-

Jonathan Winters talked about this on Johnny Carson. He said something about an “Axe wound” and everybody died laughing

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:07 PM (qBPIs)

320 What? That’s pretty gay. Normal males: We spend 9 months inside, and the rest of our lives trying to get back in
Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (qBPIs)

Just not the same one.

Posted by: Unless you're Oedipus at January 17, 2025 02:08 PM (ybSPO)

321 Zimmerman Telegraph, boobs, and bathhouses.

Where else will you get this, people?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 17, 2025 02:08 PM (ufFY8)

322 Proportionality of punishment to fit the offense is a basic originalist concept whether you are discussing civil or criminal action.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 01:51 PM (ctrM5)


Negative Ghost Rider. On this, you can not be more wrong.

The community, rather than the crown, enforcing the penalty was the basic premise. Think about it - if it was any other way, how could we not end up with exactly what we have now.

Said another way. If someone invades my home. And I exact retribution in my home ? Who are you and your opinion to mean a damn thing to me ?

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 02:08 PM (E0n90)

323 315 This site never fails.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM (fs1hN)

=====

But we often disappoint ace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

Of course he's disappointed in us. He's our blog father. That's what they do.

Posted by: You. Are. FAILURE! at January 17, 2025 02:09 PM (ybSPO)

324 306 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?

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I was weirded out the first time I saw chocolate mousse. Didn’t stop me from gobbling it down.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:09 PM (9yLUw)

325 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?

Not sure I get your question

Posted by: BIG MIKE at January 17, 2025 02:09 PM (QxEBj)

326 We need a calculator with more zeros.

Posted by: CNN case Juror #5 at January 17, 2025 02:10 PM (Aqu9a)

327 Scalia disagreed. So did Thomas.

You'd think that might give you some pause. But you're never very modest about these things.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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You might actually want to read their dissent in the case. It was not based on originalism but rather a claim that the court was engaged in substantive due process analysis. Scant history in the opinion and it was more a substantive policy critique as both opposed Roe v. Wade and Lochner for its substantive due process approach.

I'll ignore the personal insults as that is usually the last rejoinder when a person runs out of factual arguments.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

328 What? That’s pretty gay. Normal males: We spend 9 months inside, and the rest of our lives trying to get back in
Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (qBPIs)

Just not the same one.
Posted by: Unless you're Oedipus at January 17, 2025 02:08 PM (ybSPO)
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I don't kno-ow?!

* shrugs *

Posted by: Oedipus at January 17, 2025 02:10 PM (krQz2)

329 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?


meh, I accidently walked in on Rachel Levine one day after she wet her knickers on board AF1 and THB it looks just like mine, only smaller.

Posted by: Mayor Bootyjudge at January 17, 2025 02:10 PM (OBSRZ)

330 Got drunk on brandy. Not a fan.
——

My uncle had a sno-blower. What are you trying to say, James?

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:11 PM (qBPIs)

331 We need a calculator with more zeros.

Posted by: CNN case Juror #5 at January 17, 2025 02:10 PM (Aqu9a)
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Make a wish!

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 02:11 PM (krQz2)

332
I was weirded out the first time I saw chocolate mousse. Didn’t stop me from gobbling it down.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:09 PM (9yLUw)

Me too.

Posted by: Steve croft at January 17, 2025 02:11 PM (OA79/)

333 306 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?

Whoa! Gnarly!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at January 17, 2025 02:11 PM (Aqu9a)

334 Got drunk on brandy. Not a fan.
---
Sailors say she's a fine girl.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 02:12 PM (krQz2)

335 330 Got drunk on brandy. Not a fan.
——

My uncle had a sno-blower. What are you trying to say, James?

Posted by: Common Tater at January 17, 2025 02:11 PM (qBPIs)

just looked that up on urban dictionary...um...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 02:12 PM (ynpvh)

336 I don’t know what some of you are talking about. I had an innate and lasting attraction to the vagina from the first time I saw one . It’s like a magnet.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 02:12 PM (D6PGr)

337 318 Isn't everyone a little weirded out the first time they see the genitals of the opposite sex?
Posted by: bonhomme at January 17, 2025 02:03 PM (Odg76)

If by "weirded out" you mean hard enough to be unmeasurable using the Vickers test, then yeah.

Posted by: Cutting titanium coated diamonds at January 17, 2025 02:13 PM (ybSPO)

338 Isn't it funny ? In an entire Constitution that demands every single decision go to the individual state, rather than the federal - that when it comes to jurisprudence, suddenly you need one central authority to mediate everything across all the just recently colonies ?

Only a lawyer could see the wisdom in that.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 02:13 PM (E0n90)

339 I remember reading Tuchman's Zimmerman Telegram, but i forget how the Brits were able to intercept the coded message. Had they tapped into the cable somewhere?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

One of the Brit intelligence agents in the Middle East stole them from the Wasmuss fellow, a German agent. The Germans then changed the code, but used the old one to send the messages to Mexico. But since the Brits had the keys to that, they were able to decipher it.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 02:14 PM (77rzZ)

340 I remember reading Tuchman's Zimmerman Telegram, but i forget how the Brits were able to intercept the coded message. Had they tapped into the cable somewhere?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Yes, they had. But, for Wilson's benefit, the Brits allowed a US official at the British Embassy to use Brit's decoding book to decode the message at the US embassy. After all, US telegraph companies carried the message to the German embassy in Washington and Mexico. So, Wilson could reply to doubters that the message had been decoded by a US official on US soil which was true as far as it goes.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:14 PM (ctrM5)

341 I don’t know what some of you are talking about. I had an innate and lasting attraction to the vagina from the first time I saw one . It’s like a magnet.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 02:12 PM (D6PGr)
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Pardon me I read that was "inmate and lasting attraction".

I couldn't figure out where you were going with that.

Posted by: Axeman, Part-Time Dyslexic at January 17, 2025 02:14 PM (krQz2)

342 CNN: "We won't be able to lie and put democrat propaganda on air!!!!"

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 17, 2025 02:15 PM (17s+e)

343 You might actually want to read their dissent in the case. It was not based on originalism but rather a claim that the court was engaged in substantive due process analysis. Scant history in the opinion and it was more a substantive policy critique as both opposed Roe v. Wade and Lochner for its substantive due process approach.

I'll ignore the personal insults as that is usually the last rejoinder when a person runs out of factual arguments.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:10 PM (ctrM5)

Being a lawyer and all, I have. Their dissent is simple: there's no such limit on damages imposed by due process, which is the basis of the court's punitive damages policing. This isn't even debatable.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 02:15 PM (wKJf5)

344 Posted by: Axeman, Part-Time Dyslexic at January 17, 2025 02:14 PM (krQz2)

Hah.

Women’s prison movies

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 02:15 PM (D6PGr)

345 But we often disappoint ace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 17, 2025 02:06 PM


And the vast majority of those disappointments are noted in our Permanent Records.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 17, 2025 02:16 PM (a3Q+t)

346 Yes, they had. But, for Wilson's benefit, the Brits allowed a US official at the British Embassy to use Brit's decoding book to decode the message at the US embassy.

Keep this up, and we'll start another conversation about how the British like to use us, instead of being a staunch ally. And we can't have that.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 02:16 PM (E0n90)

347 But the Brits had the keys to that older code because they had taken them from Wilhelm Wasmuss, often called "the German Lawrence," who had been a German intelligence agent in the Mideast earlier in the war.
Posted by: Bulg
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Thanks for the addition.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:17 PM (ctrM5)

348 Hail DeSantis.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2025 02:18 PM (aD39U)

349 I remember reading Tuchman's Zimmerman Telegram, but i forget how the Brits were able to intercept the coded message. Had they tapped into the cable somewhere?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Oh, you were referring to interception rather than decoding. So I answered the wrong question in my response.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 02:18 PM (77rzZ)

350 NOOD Stinkypants

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 17, 2025 02:18 PM (ynpvh)

351 Lawyer fight!

LAWYER FIGHT!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:18 PM (9yLUw)

352 Thanks for the addition.
Posted by: whig

The Zimmerman Telegram is a good read. Lots of moving parts in that story.

Posted by: Bulg at January 17, 2025 02:19 PM (77rzZ)

353 Churchill also played with the facts to manipulate us to fight in Europe.

I don’t disagree with the decision to fight but Churchill did what he did.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 02:20 PM (D6PGr)

354 Lawyer fight!

LAWYER FIGHT!!!

==

at least one of them is a lawyer

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)

355 Being a lawyer and all, I have. Their dissent is simple: there's no such limit on damages imposed by due process, which is the basis of the court's punitive damages policing. This isn't even debatable.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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Argue with yourself. I'm done. People can read Bush v. Gore for themselves and choose between our positions.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:20 PM (ctrM5)

356 Lawyer fight!

LAWYER FIGHT!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at January 17, 2025 02:18 PM (9yLUw)

This is gonna get expensive

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 17, 2025 02:21 PM (NtVYv)

357 The Reinsurer cannot dictate staff changes at CNN, they can only move rates to accommodate the risk. Which, in turn, pressures the insured (CNN) to behave a certain way.
Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 02:02 PM (dIske)

They may not dictate staff changes, but they will "encourage" changes be made so that it doesn't happen again.

I do property management and one of the properties was owned by a trust that was managed by one of the top 10 banks. One day I called the manager of that trust to discuss a new lease and found out that he, and all of his staff were let go a week earlier. Saw him a couple of months later at Wal-Mart and he said a secretary distributed money from the trust to a scammer, and that it should have been questioned by everyone along the way. He said 10 people in total were fired because each one of them should have questioned it when it came across their desk. The insurance company for the bank was not happy.

They may not demand them to be fired, but they will make it known that "serious changes" will need to be made.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at January 17, 2025 02:22 PM (k1E2D)

358 Lawyer fight!

LAWYER FIGHT!!!



*breaks pool cue, tosses pieces to the ground*


Be quick about it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2025 02:22 PM (aD39U)

359 The Germans used the British owned cables across the Atlantic to try and send the Zimmerman Telegram. The Brits intercepted it and held it for the right moment

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 17, 2025 02:22 PM (pqMwI)

360 Husted appointed to Vance's seat. Surprising. I thought he'd be a shoe in for Governor.
Posted by: Tanz der Lemmings

What a bowl of crap! At the very least, I was hoping for Jane Timken. She married into money, but she has also worked hard as the Republican Party State Treasurer, etc.

And no, Husted was not a "shoe in" for governor in 2026. He is about as unpopular with the Republican base as DeWine is. I have doubts about him getting re-elected in 2026 as Senator. He may not even when the Party primary.
DeWine got elected and re-elected because the Democrats ran some really horrid people against him in 2018 and 2022.

Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at January 17, 2025 02:23 PM (vcOmj)

361 CNN will soon be auctioning off office furniture and old cameras.

GOOD

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 17, 2025 02:23 PM (JCFuC)

362 If America wasn't supplying the UK with supplies I suspect Germany wouldn't have seen any need for some Mexican alliance.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at January 17, 2025 02:24 PM (Vh9CX)

363 355 Being a lawyer and all, I have. Their dissent is simple: there's no such limit on damages imposed by due process, which is the basis of the court's punitive damages policing. This isn't even debatable.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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Argue with yourself. I'm done. People can read Bush v. Gore for themselves and choose between our positions.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 02:20 PM (ctrM5)

They can. But I'll save them the trouble.

First two lines of the Scalia/Thomas dissent:

"Today we see the latest manifestation of this Court's recent and increasingly insistent 'concern about punitive damages run wild. Since the Constitution does not make that concern any of our business, the Court's activities in this area are an unjustified incursion into the province of state governments."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 17, 2025 02:26 PM (wKJf5)

364 My connection to CNN is a friend and I pulled a help wanted paper off a bulletin board to move a girl from Louisiana to Atlanta with truck and trailer provided, to work at this new 24 Hour News Station.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 17, 2025 02:00 PM (D6PGr)

My connection is eating at the CNN food court in their hq building in Atlanta.

It was a pretty good food court.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 17, 2025 02:30 PM (g8Ew8)

365 Thanks for the recommendation on the Tuchman book. Called the library and put a hold on it. 3rd in line.

Posted by: morigu at January 17, 2025 02:45 PM (S3Nqt)

366 I'd ask CNN how much money they made from Pfizer in the last few years for commercials and that's what I would award for punitive damages.

Posted by: Jolo at January 17, 2025 02:45 PM (hFqlx)

367 I hope they calculate the damages like this

X + Y {with Y being "crush your enemy, see them driven before you }
with an exponent of Z { the lamentation of the women or Potato }

Screw CNN and all of these liars and their lying ways.

I shall invest in salt for the crater that used to be CNN when this is all done.

Posted by: Fox in Cleveland at January 17, 2025 02:53 PM (3s9iz)

368 If they can't run things financially, I don't see why we should leave such important tasks, such as beaking news, to them. Sounds like their broadcasting license should be pulled.

Posted by: Rbastid at January 17, 2025 02:59 PM (PJdKB)

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