Closing Arguments in Billion-Dollar CNN Defamation Trial: CNN Just Can't Stop Digging All the Holes

In the billion-dollar CNN defamation trial, the lawyers are offering closing arguments. The judge issued juror instructions just before that.

Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro
If they find CNN liable and they proceed to punitive damages, they need to determine if CNN engaged in express malice, actual malice, and outrageous behavior.
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Freedman notes that Axelrod's claim in opening that every word in CNN's report was "true."
He notes that every CNN witness claimed used the same false definition for "black market."

CNN is attempting to weasel its way out of defaming Young as working for the "black market" of human smuggling by now claiming they had no idea "black market" meant an illegal market, and they thought it only meant an... "unregulated market."

That's what CNN has instructed all of its employees to say -- they have suborned perjury, telling their employees to invent a fictitious definition of "black market" which they all claim they always believed.

Allegedly, you understand. I'm sure it's perfectly possible that a bunch of people independently and organically came to believe in a definition of "black market" that appears in literally zero dictionaries. (Until leftwing dictionary editors update their definitions to support CNN's court position, that is.)

He notes that every CNN witness said they had no remorse and they would publish it again.
Freedman recalls that the jury asked Marquardt if he was sorry and he said no.

Freedman says that everyone saw CNN senior editor Tom Lumley's conscience was eating him up on the stand because CNN was forcing him to lie.

Lumley is one of the two editors who ripped the story before CNN went ahead and published it anyway:

"The story is full of holes like Swiss cheese," Lumley wrote.
"Agree. The story is 80% emotion, 20% obscured fact lol," Trimble responded.

Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro

Freedman is reminding the jury of who Young was before the CNN report.

Freedman is walking the jury through the timeline of Young's evacuations from Afghanistan.
He save 22 women and a baby.
Freedman notes that Young had warned CNN that they didn't have the facts straight and that "they would face you [the jury]" and they did it anyway.
Freedman says it takes expressed and actual malice for CNN to do what they allegedly did.
Freedman note that CNN's headlines and article said Afghans faced "exorbitant" fees from people like the only person they named, Young. When they weren't paying his fees.

Major corporations like Bloomberg were paying the fees. This is just a complete lie.

Freedman is showing the jury the CNN teases where they set the story up as showing viewers how "desperate Afghans" were being "preyed" on by people who want them to pay up "big"
"We watched as they imposed their hypocritical moral values on Zak," Freedman proclaims, noting that CNN makes money off of war, which they targeted him for.
"Do they think we're all stupid?" Freedman asks.
Freedman points to the comments of CNN's Nicole Gaouette who said their own story's claims "were not fair."
"Do not let CNN tell more lies ... for their own self-righteousness." - Freedman.
Freedman shows the definition of "black market" in several dictionaries and they all call it an illegal market or implies illegality.
He notes that every CNN employee who has testified has used a definition that "cannot be sourced" to a dictionary.
He calls it a "conspiracy."
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Freedman notes that CNN editor Fuzz Hogan insisted they intended to say Young operated on a black market while all the others said no they didn't.
Freedman argues that it was evidence that the truth slipping out in the face of CNN's "conspiracy" to have the same claims.

"CNN deserves punishment. Look at what they did. Look at what they caused. They did it on purpose. Do not let them get away," said Freedman.

He also urged them to "fight fake news," which I love.

This is amazing:

Jury is back in the courtroom. CNN attorney David Axelrod has taken the stand to deliver the closing arguments for the network.
Axelrod says that throughout his closing arguments he will emphasize the CNN story is" accurate," and "tough but fair."
Axelrod is arguing that the plaintiff should've gone out of his way to try to convince the CNN journalists he wasn't "shady" (putting the burden of proof on the plaintiff). The jurors don't seem particularly convinced about the argument.
CNN's defense hinges entirely on disclaiming responsibility, shifting the burden onto the plaintiff to prove he is not 'extorting' 'desperate Afghans.' However, true journalism operates differently; it's CNN that should have substantiated its allegations, not the plaintiff.

CNN: Where we publish baseless accusations, and our victims are required to prove their innocence to us.

Young's lawyer also pointed out that CNN itself has made a lot of money on the Afghanistan war, so they have no right to complain about an American special forces soldier working there to evacuate people out of that hellhole.

He also points out that CNN "never saved a baby from Afghanistan."

Not even Jake Tapper, who loves the troops and attempts to smear himself in their glory!

I mentioned earlier that CNN's editors found a lot of faults in this story, and did not want to publish it. Let me repeat that:

"The story is full of holes like Swiss cheese," Lumley wrote.
"Agree. The story is 80% emotion, 20% obscured fact lol," Trimble responded.

So how did Axelrod handle that?

In his closing argument, Axelrod said that CNN's editors are, essentially, nasty little troublemaking bitches who just want to complain and ruin everything:

Jessica Costescu
@JessicaCostescu
CNN's lead attorney just threw one of its editors under the bus:
"Does anyone have someone in their lives that just likes to complain?"
"That may have been Mr. Lumley, and you saw that...all of his complaining...Mr. Lumley had a beef with the story, he wanted to go further."

A little more: CNN's lawyer Axelrod showed that he did a great job:

Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro
Axelrod is apologizing to the jury for being annoying and asking them to not to "take it out" on CNN.

LOL.

Well, at least he apologize for being annoying, unlike Jake Tapper.

Give this man his billion dollars!

Posted by: Ace at 03:37 PM

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Posted by: runner at January 16, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)

2 *stumbles in the dark

Posted by: runner at January 16, 2025 03:37 PM (g47mK)

3 In his closing argument, Axelrod said that CNN's editors are, essentially, nasty little troublemaking bitches who just want to complain and ruin everything:

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Who says they aren't?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

4 Quoteblockers are the worst!

Posted by: andycanuck (5LoD7) at January 16, 2025 03:39 PM (5LoD7)

5 Lumley is one of the two editors who ripped the story before CNN went ahead and published it anyway:

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But this is the only story where this happened.

CNN's editors are very happy with all their other stories.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

6 In his closing argument, Axelrod said that CNN's editors are, essentially, nasty little troublemaking bitches who just want to complain and ruin everything

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Well I guess not everything Axelrod said was a lie

Posted by: Ryan Frank at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (fgmuN)

7 The details of this case only interest me in how they speed the process of CNN going off of the air.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (lTGtQ)

8 Grey Market?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (bss/y)

9 I hope no one sues me for being annoying.

My employers don't have a billion dollars.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (PQz16)

10 Another thread on that trial. I thought the previous one moved to the top at first.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (NUdiI)

11 CNN senior editor Tom Lumley's conscience was eating him up on the stand because CNN was forcing him to lie.
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This is the funniest sentence I've read this decade.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (ggGAr)

12
Reminder: Fake News cnn recently STAGED a fake "prison" release in Syria

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (oKFJt)

13 Closing Arguments in Billion-Dollar CNN Defamation Trial: CNN Just Can't Stop Digging All the Holes
—Ace
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Exhibit A that they are Democrat to their core.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (krQz2)

14 So the CIA has to find another 24/7 World News Channel to shape the news it wants, rite?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 03:41 PM (jFCkp)

15 i need a super-500-million judgment guys

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (KRtlO)

16 CNN Just Can't Stop Digging All the Holes

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They definitely dig assholes.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (riYIr)

17 Does it seem like competence and sense of dignity are a thing of the past?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (bss/y)

18 I hope the Onion buys CNN's corpse.

Posted by: Stateless at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (jvJvP)

19 One has to hope the Communist News Network pays out their A holes

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (fwDg9)

20 Axelrod is apologizing to the jury for being annoying and asking them to not to "take it out" on CNN.
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He wants it in him on CNN.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (krQz2)

21 Will this end CNN????

Posted by: Lizzy at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (Hkcdp)

22 Just reading some of those emails and text messages I would award the guy the entire $1 billion. This $hit was done on purpose and was coordinated within the network.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 16, 2025 03:43 PM (Rcnd3)

23 "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."

If you don't have the facts, nor the law, nor the table, start pounding your clients.

- David Axelrod, Attorney at Law

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 03:43 PM (lsO/a)

24 >>>17 Does it seem like competence and sense of dignity are a thing of the past?

it does.

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 03:43 PM (KRtlO)

25 This is CNN.

Posted by: James Earl Jones at January 16, 2025 03:43 PM (NUdiI)

26 I swear, officer. When you overheard me talking about gutting, butchering, and burying my missing spouse, I was just using my own private lingo for how much I love her and miss her! Ask anyone who knows me! My buddy Ricky can tell you I was talking about murdering my wife just the other day!

Posted by: CNN Employee at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (Odg76)

27 Just reading some of those emails and text messages I would award the guy the entire $1 billion. This $hit was done on purpose and was coordinated within the network.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 16, 2025 03:43 PM (Rcnd3)
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They should have mentioned rape.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (krQz2)

28 I hope the Onion buys CNN's corpse.
Posted by: Stateless

The new woke Onion? Nope.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (77rzZ)

29 At least they still have the Al Capones' Vault story.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (PQz16)

30 Bob Uecker and David Lynch dead?

Over to Alton.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (bss/y)

31
Will CNN have to sign over the pink slip to Mr Young?

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (+oR7L)

32 Is this the same David Axelturfer who paid agents to pretend to be average-joe Democrats and concerned Republicans? I knew he was on CNN as a talking head but I didn't know he was their legal counsel as well.
Pity that ol' Davey couldn't put his men on the jury.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (gKWVE)

33 17 Does it seem like competence and sense of dignity are a thing of the past?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:42 PM (bss/y)

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Just in high powered law firms.

And government.

And corporate America.

And schools.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

34
What's with people adding "super" to everything, today?

That's super-easy!
She's super nice. That jacket was super cheap.

What happened to "really" and "very?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (oKFJt)

35 Is Ted Truner still alive?

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (77rzZ)

36
This guys odds of winning are better than the powerball.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (+oR7L)

37 >>>Will this end CNN????

Probably not. Even if the jury wacks CNN for the full billie, CNN will appeal for years, and offer Young some smaller settlement in exchange for having the money now rather than in six years.

This can't help CNN, obviously. And it's amazing how much lying these motherfuckers are lining up to do UNDER OATH.

Imagine the lies they tell when they're not in court!!!

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (KRtlO)

38 if CNN engaged in express malice, actual malice, and outrageous behavior.

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Uhh, yes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (L/fGl)

39 37 This can't help CNN, obviously. And it's amazing how much lying these motherfuckers are lining up to do UNDER OATH.

Imagine the lies they tell when they're not in court!!!
Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (KRtlO)

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WB/Discovery was already leaking ideas of selling off CNN before this cluster of a trial.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

40 CNN, the most trusted source that goes by that name.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (krQz2)

41 I pray CNN goes the way of the Dumont Network.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (WXNFJ)

42 And schools.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

And medicine.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (ctrM5)

43 35 Is Ted Truner still alive?
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (77rzZ)

Yes, he's 86 years old.

Posted by: Thrawn at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (9Ovst)

44 Does CNN have value to its parent, Warner Bros. Discovery?

Posted by: mr tmz at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (rJ48h)

45 26 I swear, officer. When you overheard me talking about gutting, butchering, and burying my missing spouse, I was just using my own private lingo for how much I love her and miss her! Ask anyone who knows me! My buddy Ricky can tell you I was talking about murdering my wife just the other day!
Posted by: CNN Employee at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (Odg76)

"To the moon, Alice!"

Posted by: Jackie Gleason at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (PQz16)

46 Is this the same David Axelturfer who paid agents to pretend to be average-joe Democrats and concerned Republicans?

Surprisingly, it's a different Axelrod than the greasy hitler one.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (aD39U)

47 Will this end CNN????
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Too fake to fail.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (krQz2)

48 I would urge getting screen grabs of old cnn.com articles using the term "black market," but I'll wager they've already been dealt with by their "curators."

Posted by: Freed terrorist #998 at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (amTrm)

49 And to think that CNN is part of nearly every basic cable and satellite package in the country. Being force-fed to the American public like a brain drug.

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (rj6Yv)

50 38 if CNN engaged in express malice, actual malice, and outrageous behavior.

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Uhh, yes?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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The Animal House Otter defense of Delta .

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (ctrM5)

51 What's with people adding "super" to everything, today?

That's super-easy!
She's super nice. That jacket was super cheap.

What happened to "really" and "very?"
Posted by: Soothsayer

The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

52 I saw nasty little troublemaking bitches open for Twisted Sister at The Gorge in George back in '85.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (W/lyH)

53 like Swiss cheese,"

CHEEEEESE

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (B/MLO)

54 I have an argument for the appeal:

"The US Supreme Court has made it nearly impossible for grievously-wronged plaintiffs to get satisfaction from defaming media companies. This means that it is imperative that in the few cases where plaintiffs are allowed to prevail, that juries be allowed to set punishing penalties for defamation. Otherwise there is no incentive at all for media companies to avoid defamation."

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (KRtlO)

55 49 And to think that CNN is part of nearly every basic cable and satellite package in the country. Being force-fed to the American public like a brain drug.
Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (rj6Yv)

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Good thing for America cable is dying.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (GBKbO)

56 "CNN is attempting to weasel its way out of defaming Young as working for the "black market" of human smuggling by now claiming they had no idea "black market" meant an illegal market, and they thought it only meant an... "unregulated market."

Is there an unregulated slave/smuggling market? It is illegal, so "regulated".

Grey market is usually "off the books" stuff, black market is always illegal stuff afaik. (as everyone knows).

Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (Cus5s)

57 It's express .. actual .. outrageous

Posted by: Jackie Chiles at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (aD39U)

58 That's what CNN has instructed all of its employees to say -- they have suborned perjury, telling their employees to invent a fictitious definition of "black market" which they all claim they always believed.
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Something like that is only a big deal if Trump did it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (krQz2)

59 "2 *stumbles in the dark
Posted by: runner"

Watch yer tibias!

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (fV+MH)

60 SHOVE.
IT.
RIGHT.
UP.
THEIR.
ASS.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (wtvvX)

61 Saw Melania is going after The View for their lies about her

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (fwDg9)

62 >>>CNN attorney David Axelrod has taken the stand to deliver the closing arguments for the network.

Since when do lawyers take the stand to deliver closing arguments?

***Not sure what the source is for that quote. No link provided.

Posted by: No Name Today at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (vlXMQ)

63 44 Does CNN have value to its parent, Warner Bros. Discovery?
Posted by: mr tmz
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I would say negative at this point from a reputational and earnings risk standpoint. These are reasons that Comcast is looking to spin off MSNBC as well.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (ctrM5)

64 CNN is attempting to weasel its way out of defaming Young as working for the "black market" of human smuggling by now claiming they had no idea "black market" meant an illegal market, and they thought it only meant an... "unregulated market."

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I'm surprised that they didn't claim they thought it meant a grocery store in Detroit.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (riYIr)

65 I've been trying to follow this case , but I'm excessively tired ( insomnia) and may not have read as carefully as I should have, ( sorry) so here' s my dumb question: Why did CNN decide fabricate a story about this guy doing human trafficking in Afghanistan without having any evidence and without verifying anything-aside from the fact that CNN is a bunch of lying weasels? Why was this guy chosen?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (gIdNC)

66 They still have cable?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM (NUdiI)

67 I'm a bit surprised CNN didn't beat up the defendant over his non-use of 'Markets of color'.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (WXNFJ)

68 I hope the Onion buys CNN's corpse.
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Or Babylon Bee.

And give Alex Jones a prominent position.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (azSra)

69 Unless the food has been really good, this should take about ten minutes to decide.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (RjdSJ)

70 The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

Ella Emhoff

Posted by: Just Lily at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (PQz16)

71 "claiming they had no idea "black market" meant an illegal market, and they thought it only meant an... "unregulated market.""

Libs don't know the difference btw 'illegal' and 'unregulated.' Only regulated shit is legal.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (ZwuMZ)

72 The View is extremely likely to be an intelligence (loosely termed) op. Think about that.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (ggGAr)

73 Capes?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (NUdiI)

74 Good thing for America cable is dying.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Well, their audience is as well. Last figures I saw has CNN with the oldest median audience age near 70, MSNBC slightly behind, and even Fox News in their 60's now.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (ctrM5)

75 CNN explained that black market just means wild and uncontrolled, kinda like black people.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (krQz2)

76
I hear that Sarah Palin might be getting another shot at the defamation case against the NYT's because of another court ruling.

Make them all bleed.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (+oR7L)

77 CNN advertisers must be scratch their heads and muttering 'WTF?"

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (rj6Yv)

78 23 "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."

If you don't have the facts, nor the law, nor the table, start pounding your clients.

- David Axelrod, Attorney at Law

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 03:43 PM (lsO/a)

Pound 'em RIGHT IN THE ASS.

Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice, Esq. at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (wtvvX)

79 I hope there are more than 10 zeroes on the punitive damages.

I hope CNN gets Gawkered.

Posted by: Your kids' Sociology Professor at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (zjgNU)

80 CNN has shrewdly maneuvered itself into a no win situation. Either they lose and pay big bucks or they win by admitting that they're a bunch of dummies who make up their own words.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (L/fGl)

81 72 The View is extremely likely to be an intelligence (loosely termed) op. Think about that.
Posted by: ...
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I would call it an unintelligence op. People watching that show actually get dumber in real time. Anti educational programming.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (ctrM5)

82 SHOVE.
IT.
RIGHT.
UP.
THEIR.
ASS.

That's your answer for everything.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (Odg76)

83 75 CNN explained that black market just means wild and uncontrolled, kinda like black people.
Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (krQz2)

Mostly peaceful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (bss/y)

84 69 Unless the food has been really good, this should take about ten minutes to decide.
Posted by: From about That Time at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (RjdSJ)

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"But the guy might have been guilty, is what I'm saying. We shouldn't just rush into judgment. Let's just having another trial right here. Maybe Jake Tapper was actually really innocent."
-Juror #8

*90 minutes later*

"I feel really good about myself for letting Jack Tapper go free. Better to let 100 guilty men go free than to jail one obviously guilty man in case I feel bad about it afterwards."
-Juror #9

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

85 They still have cable?
Posted by: Boss Moss

Usha Martin makes a shitton of it.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (WXNFJ)

86 What if you only have mound on your side?

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (fV+MH)

87 Capes?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (NUdiI)

No capes!

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (rj6Yv)

88 82 SHOVE.
IT.
RIGHT.
UP.
THEIR.
ASS.

That's your answer for everything.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (Odg76)

And yet he keeps setting the curve in class.

Posted by: Roy at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (z+ik4)

89 Or Babylon Bee.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (azSra)
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That would be good. And they could have "Throwback Segments" full of lies and shilling for the DNC.

"This has been a CNN Throwback Segment".

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (krQz2)

90 Why did CNN decide fabricate a story about this guy doing human trafficking in Afghanistan without having any evidence and without verifying anything-aside from the fact that CNN is a bunch of lying weasels? Why was this guy chosen?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I don't think they picked a guy to go after, they were looking for a story to take peoples' eyes off of the disastrous exit from Afghanistan, and he happened to be available.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (lTGtQ)

91 The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"
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Moar ass cheek.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (jFCkp)

92 I would call it an unintelligence op. People watching that show actually get dumber in real time. Anti educational programming.
Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (ctrM5)

It will come out one day. There is something about it. Whether it was from the beginning or whether they skin suited it, who knows.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (ggGAr)

93 72 The View is extremely likely to be an intelligence (loosely termed) op. Think about that.
Posted by: ...

(Puts on tin foil hat) Plausible.

youtu.be/v4-GcS1UQyg

I mean at this point, why not. Every conspiracy theory is 6 newz cycles away from being confirmed.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (sAmhv)

94 Apologies for being annoying or asking a lot of questions in closing is a bad move. If you are going to be a dick, address in jury selection. You find out what jurors will be antsy about it, and set an expectation that if you aren't that bad, is rewarded.

It's like he's never had a truly shitty case before....

Posted by: It's a type of cognitive blindness at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (HXZiI)

95 No one watches CNN except old farts and shut ins who cannot change the channel.
Die CNN Die!

Posted by: Zombie Walter Cronkite, Asshole at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (jiYtH)

96 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

97 77 CNN advertisers must be scratch their heads and muttering 'WTF?"
Posted by: mrp
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They are more focused on the core group of 25-44 or some such demographic. Last time I checked, it was well under 100k viewers even in evening and much worse during daytime.

CNN's audience in that group has evaporated to the extent that probably Andy Griffith reruns have higher audience ratings in that demographic. Certainly HGTV gets far better ratings in that demographic. Possibly streamed Yule Fire Log ratings as well.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:53 PM (ctrM5)

98 What's with people adding "super" to everything, today?

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"Don't say super, Stephanie. Nobody says super anymore."

Posted by: Stephanie's Ex in Saturday Night Fever at January 16, 2025 03:53 PM (qBdHI)

99 He calls it a "conspiracy."

No question they'd have conspired with CNN corporate legal guidance to unify their defense and response. I hope the jury doesn't interpret that as "fear mongering" by the plaintiff, but defense surely conspired. And since it is CNN, you can bet it was to conceal malice since dishonesty is baked into their cakes.

I truly hope CNN's damage is so high that it actually drains money from MSNBC's coffers, too.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 03:53 PM (aXxgO)

100 I hope they award $1bn. And Tapper gets fired.

Won't happen, but a fella can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

101 The fact the View and Oprah are even a thing is the biggest indictment of womankind ever.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (fV+MH)

102 Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 03:52 PM (lTGtQ)

Thank you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (gIdNC)

103 Really this is the answer... more need to take these trials to discovery. I'm actually surprised how few get to discovery phase, so few that media will email and message each other damning things because they've been untouchable for so long.

Posted by: Inogame at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (53oGX)

104 David Lynch, RIP

Another grim milestone for the biden-harris administration.

Posted by: caf at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (/+mVZ)

105 74 Good thing for America cable is dying.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Well, their audience is as well. Last figures I saw has CNN with the oldest median audience age near 70, MSNBC slightly behind, and even Fox News in their 60's now.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM

I saw ads for the new Hollywood Squares.

Considering how fractured the media landscape is, I don't think most people would recognize a third of these 'celebrities.'

Posted by: Stateless at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (jvJvP)

106 If this is the best lawyering money can buy, holy shit the bar* is low.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (mlg/3)

107 >> If they find CNN liable and they proceed to punitive damages, they need to determine if CNN engaged in express malice, actual malice, and outrageous behavior.

THIS is CNN.

Somebody dig up Bernie Shaw.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (/Jtgt)

108 103 Really this is the answer... more need to take these trials to discovery. I'm actually surprised how few get to discovery phase, so few that media will email and message each other damning things because they've been untouchable for so long.
Posted by: Inogame at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (53oGX)

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Multi-billion dollar company flashes $5 million at someone they've wronged: it tends to work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

109 86 What if you only have mound on your side?
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (fV+MH)

Depends on whose mounds.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (bss/y)

110 CNN explained that black market just means wild and uncontrolled, kinda like black people.
Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:50 PM (krQz2)

Mostly peaceful.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (bss/y)
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Like the wildfire in California.

I saw Newsom in front of that burning house, and got a real "mostly peaceful" vibe.

Ironically, he was in front of a smaller, more contained fire than the "mostly peaceful demonstration" in 2020.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (krQz2)

111 the real llife lionel hutz, ladies and gentlemen

the difference with newscorp verdicy was 1) the bosses want to lay down, 2) they used opinions of the staff, which did not pertain to Dominions operations

Posted by: miguel cervantes at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (dJR17)

112 If CNN is forced to shut down, what will they play on all those TVs in airports?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (WPL6O)

113 That would be good. And they could have "Throwback Segments" full of lies and shilling for the DNC.

"This has been a CNN Throwback Segment".
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Yes, exactly. There *is* some value to their retro footage, just not always value in the way CNN would like it. The time they got caught basically LYING for Iraq in return for preferred access would make for a great "Here's how it happened" retro special.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (azSra)

114 The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

Ella Emhoff
Posted by: Just Lily at January 16, 2025 03:49 PM (PQz16)

As I recall before supers, there were a number of models you saw, but there were several at a time and you tended not to know their name.

Supermodels used to be known by name, and be all over the place in multiple big campaigns at once.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (n7h9X)

115 43 35 Is Ted Truner still alive?
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:45 PM (77rzZ)

Yes, he's 86 years old.
Posted by: Thrawn at January 16, 2025 03:46 PM (9Ovst)

He's got Lewy Body Dementia - the same condition that Robin Williams had when he committed suicide.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (lsO/a)

116 Oprah is a monster who has done profound damage to the culture.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (sAmhv)

117 It will come out one day. There is something about it. Whether it was from the beginning or whether they skin suited it, who knows.
Posted by: ...
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Baba WaWa aka Barbara Walters was the one to pitch the show to ABC and produce it for awhile including its V(ulgar) for vagina shaped table.

She was connected to a lot of important folks over the years from interviews, etc. so quite possible.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (ctrM5)

118 > The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"

Real answer? How much money they could command for a photoshoot and whether anyone knows their name. If you're that pretty girl from the Search catalog and you earn $250 for a photoshoot, you're not a supermodel. If you're someone everyone knows like Cindy Crawford and you earn $10,000 for a photoshoot, you're a supermodel.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (Odg76)

119 CNN: Where we publish baseless accusations, and our victims are required to prove their innocence to us.

That's the media's entire M.O.: write shortly before publication and ask if you have any rebuttal to whispers from unnamed sources.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (guCHD)

120 The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

They get paid with actual money and not just heroin and cigarettes.

Posted by: Roy at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (z+ik4)

121 Glenn Ford being on Hollywood Squares was just sad.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (fV+MH)

122 I need someone to put me some knowledge: Why was CNN so determined to go after this guy in particular?

Posted by: pookysgirl, slightly out of the loop at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (dtlDP)

123 He calls it a "conspiracy."
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Is that a theory?

I think CNN said you can't have those unless well-founded.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (krQz2)

124 112 If CNN is forced to shut down, what will they play on all those TVs in airports?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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They shut down that service years ago. Some individual airports may still have it on but most have moved on.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (ctrM5)

125 Oprah is a monster who has done profound damage to the culture.

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She attained her $Billion dollar fortune off the backs of stupid white women whom she secretly hates.

Posted by: Stephanie's Ex in Saturday Night Fever at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (qBdHI)

126 Amber Heard's appellate lawyer. And against Palin in a libel case he won.

Posted by: It's a type of cognitive blindness at January 16, 2025 03:56 PM (HXZiI)

127 Considering how fractured the media landscape is, I don't think most people would recognize a third of these 'celebrities.'

Posted by: Stateless at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (jvJvP)

To be fair, at least a third were only famous for being on hollywood squares.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 03:57 PM (n7h9X)

128 The fact the View and Oprah are even a thing is the biggest indictment of womankind ever.
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Drew Barrymore noticed the success of the View and Oprah and said "Hold my alcohol-free beer!".

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 03:57 PM (azSra)

129 101 The fact the View and Oprah are even a thing is the biggest indictment of womankind ever.
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Who doesn't miss Oprah's commitment to books and lady authors?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 03:57 PM (jFCkp)

130 From the start of this trial CNN's personnel have been arrogant little shits. Let's see if that tactic works for them.

Hope CNN gets what they deserve from this. They're a miserable outfit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2025 03:57 PM (Q4IgG)

131 The fact the View and Oprah are even a thing is the biggest indictment of womankind ever.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (fV+MH)

Oprah is the modern day Black Mammy who the whites wimmen can get advice on mens, clothing and what to do about other wimmens who mess with their mens and clothes. Also, watchin de chirrens.

Posted by: Rhett Butler at January 16, 2025 03:57 PM (jiYtH)

132 /sock

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 16, 2025 03:57 PM (qBdHI)

133 Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:54 PM (

Yes, maybe, aside from the fact that are millions and millions of we women who have never watched "The View" (ok I did watch a clip of Whoopi complaining about political persecution by a bakery in NY) and may have seen one episode of Oprah.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (6AE0a)

134 Ted Turner is one of the largest landowners in the US. Top 10, maybe top five.

Funny he never comes up when they rail about fat cat oligarchs.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (wBaIH)

135 112 If CNN is forced to shut down, what will they play on all those TVs in airports?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Cat videos! I suggest this one.

youtu.be/iNQNmy6fF8k

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (sAmhv)

136 Multi-billion dollar company flashes $5 million at someone they've wronged: it tends to work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

I didn't mean it as a knock on those that settle... but if a few see this guy get big money they might hold out a bit. Or... who knows, the media might improve? lol

Posted by: Inogame at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (53oGX)

137 124 112 If CNN is forced to shut down, what will they play on all those TVs in airports?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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Reruns of NFL games would be good.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (jFCkp)

138 What if you only have mound on your side?
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 03:51 PM (fV+MH)

Depends on whose mounds.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (bss/y)
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But there would be so much elation, it could be an All-man joy!

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (krQz2)

139 It's "Market of Color", please.

Posted by: Josephistan at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (9XPe8)

140 The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

Christy Turlington.

I kid. Kinda.
But it's basically a designation for models so prominent you know their names. Chicks like Turlington or Linda Evangelista. Etc.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - resident squatch expert at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (guCHD)

141 Possibly streamed Yule Fire Log ratings as well.
Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:53 PM (ctrM5)

LOL

Fake fire. Fake news.

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (rj6Yv)

142 112 If CNN is forced to shut down, what will they play on all those TVs in airports?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

One of the first 100 Executive Orders next week is to require all airports to play the Gorilla Channel.

Posted by: Roy at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (z+ik4)

143 136 Multi-billion dollar company flashes $5 million at someone they've wronged: it tends to work.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (GBKbO)

I didn't mean it as a knock on those that settle... but if a few see this guy get big money they might hold out a bit. Or... who knows, the media might improve? lol
Posted by: Inogame at January 16, 2025 03:58 PM (53oGX)

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I remember when I thought the Covington kid thing was going to be the metal beam that broke the media's back...and then he settled.

I got it, but I was still disappointed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 03:59 PM (GBKbO)

144 Closing Arguments in Billion-Dollar CNN Defamation Trial: CNN Just Can't Stop Digging All the Holes
_______________

Meanwhile the jury is adding on zeroes to the final judgment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 03:59 PM (YqDXo)

145 113 That would be good. And they could have "Throwback Segments" full of lies and shilling for the DNC.

"This has been a CNN Throwback Segment".
=====
Yes, exactly. There *is* some value to their retro footage, just not always value in the way CNN would like it. The time they got caught basically LYING for Iraq in return for preferred access would make for a great "Here's how it happened" retro special.
Posted by: Crusader
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Reeling in the Years is doing just that with their IP. Some good stuff there in interviews and live performances (with Reeling in the Years stamped over the screen so assholes on YT cannot seize and put the captures on to deprive Reeling from ad revenue). Lots of shady shit going down on YT often from foreign lands where they skirt YT protections for IP so they get ad revenue from unwitting people searching for music to listen to.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:59 PM (ctrM5)

146 From the start of this trial CNN's personnel have been arrogant little shits. Let's see if that tactic works for them.
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It's a bold plan cotton let's see how it works out...

Posted by: It's a type of cognitive blindness at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (HXZiI)

147 To be fair, at least a third were only famous for being on hollywood squares.
Posted by: Oldcat

There were a lot of celebrities that I only knew from game shows growing up. Brett Sommers (Matchgame) and George Gobel (Hollywood Squares) are the two that immediately come to mind.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (77rzZ)

148 "CNN is attempting to weasel its way out of defaming Young as working for the "black market" of human smuggling by now claiming they had no idea "black market" meant an illegal market, and they thought it only meant an... "unregulated market.""

CNN better get down to my neighborhood quick for a black market exposé. A bunch of unregulated garage sells pop up here every weekend.

Posted by: scruboak at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (Bd5dd)

149 How hilarious does this sound in light of this trial?

Mr Biden said: “Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power. The free press is crumbling. Editors are disappearing. Social media is giving up on fact checking.

Posted by: Jay in PA at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (i7Q7S)

150 Axlerod. Another that should meet an unfortunate coma from a city bus.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

151 This verdict might end up raising my HBO rates. Doesn't Warner Bros. own CNN?

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (dIske)

152 If CNN is forced to shut down, what will they play on all those TVs in airports?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm
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They stopped that a while back, I thought.

I think they ended up cutting that expense from the budget and selling the TVs to the airports for cash.

I haven't seen CNN at an airport in years. And I've seen airport ads on those same TVs.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (krQz2)

153 Fenelon...you can't properly do misogyny without using the broadest brush possible.

It's the rule.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:00 PM (fV+MH)

154 The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"
Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

Typing only for myself, after watching Kate Upton runway videos posted by AtC (because she IS a giver), I can state definitely that I know a super model when I see one.

Posted by: mrp at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (rj6Yv)

155 LOL

Fake fire. Fake news.
Posted by: mrp
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Same actual content, pixels and noise on the screen. Call it the fake equivalence equation.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (ctrM5)

156 DeSantis names FL Attorney General Ashley Moody as Rubio replacement.

Posted by: Tuna at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (oaGWv)

157 Fenelon...you can't properly do misogyny without using the broadest brush possible.

I don't resent all women. Just the ones that insist on being heard or being in charge.

Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (QOCDM)

158 If CNN loses, maybe the court will make Tater the plaintiff's butler.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (L/fGl)

159 Well, at least the name plate above the office was changed...

@libsoftiktok
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5m
BREAKING: The FBI shut down its DEI office - FOX

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 04:02 PM (mlg/3)

160 CNN cannot win this.

They settle, they get a line of people outside their offices, waiting to serve papers.

They lose in court, same thing.

Good.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:02 PM (tT6L1)

161 #147 As a kid I vaguely was aware of Gobel as some sort of B-rate actor, but don't recall seeing Brett Sommers anywhere other than Matchgame.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:02 PM (azSra)

162 Mr Biden said: “Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power. The free press is crumbling. Editors are disappearing. Social media is giving up on fact checking.
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Translation: how dare you notice our criminality and incompetence and comment on it!!! This must be stopped.

Posted by: It's a type of cognitive blindness at January 16, 2025 04:03 PM (HXZiI)

163 I hope they fire Kaitlin Collins and wipe that perpetual shit eating smirk off her face.

Posted by: wth at January 16, 2025 04:03 PM (v0R5T)

164 It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 16, 2025 04:03 PM (SZfjz)

165 WYDEN: “We are in an arms race on clean energy with China.”

BESSENT: “China will build 100 new coal plants this year. There is not a clean energy race. There is an energy race.”

Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:03 PM (RHGPo)

166 I sat on two juries.

Yeah the prosecutor sometimes comes off as an asshole. That doesn't make the defendant innocent.

In one case, there were four counts. We found the defendant guilty on two of them and acquitted the other two.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:03 PM (ZmEVT)

167 >>Since when do lawyers take the stand to deliver closing arguments?

it's nIck Fondacaro of MRC and yeah, he misspoke. He just meant "addressing the jury."

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)

168 I thought troll season was over since we won the election. Or at least a short hiatus?

Posted by: Piper at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (pRpzT)

169 Wow, Ron Wyden looks like he forgot to take off his "Day of the Dead" makeup

Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (RHGPo)

170 @libsoftiktok
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5m
BREAKING: The FBI shut down its DEI office - FOX
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 04:02 PM (mlg/3)

That's all well and good. Where did they transfer the staff?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (Zz0t1)

171 Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (QOCDM

Okay Dokay. Not be heard? Perhaps you'd like to volunteer to put masking tape on the mouth of every woman in America and change it frequently.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (6AE0a)

172 >>>158 If CNN loses, maybe the court will make Tater the plaintiff's butler.

That's a fantastic idea for a half-hour comedy program.

Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)

173 They settle, they get a line of people outside their offices, waiting to serve papers.

They lose in court, same thing.

Good.
Posted by: blake

I did not stay at a Holiday Inn yesterday, but I have a feeling if you've already delivered your final remarks in front of a jury, you're not going to be able to make an offer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (mlg/3)

174 I remember when I thought the Covington kid thing was going to be the metal beam that broke the media's back...and then he settled.

I got it, but I was still disappointed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Look for steady erosion as trust in the media is now approaching that of pols. Funny thing is that it has been artificially boosted by Dems supporting Biden. They have already ostracized themselves from indy and GOP viewers. Thus, any positive news about Orange Man reported by the alphabets is likely to result in even lower trust in media because some Dems don't like it.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (ctrM5)

175 I sat on two juries.

How rude !!!

Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (QOCDM)

176 Mr Biden said: “Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power.
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Is that admitting that he's abusing power?

Who else is in power right now?

Isn't the government trying to tell people it is the authority on what is true and false, itself A *BIG* ABUSE OF POWER?

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (krQz2)

177 Mr Biden said: “Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power.

Why, oh why does Joe hate us so much?

Posted by: CNN at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (v0R5T)

178 Puddleglum: "Oprah is a monster who has done profound damage to the culture."

She only did it for the money, though. Not her fault. It was the piles and piles of Benjamins. She's a victim, really.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (aXxgO)

179 I'm going to have to take the liberty of nominating my Black Lab for press secretary. I just went out to call him in from the snow. He was out there barking at a tree with squirrels in it. I said, "Come on, kiddo, they aren't coming down."

He glanced one final time, and then proceeded to pee on the tree trunk before happily marching into the house.

He's a professional.

Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (dIske)

180 I sat on two juries.
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I hope you didn't fart.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (krQz2)

181 SpaceX - Starship Suborbital Test Flight 7
OLP-A - Starbase, Texas - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: January 16, 2025
Launch Time: 4:00 p.m. CT, 2200 UTC, 23:00 CET
Launch Window: Opens at 4:00 p.m. CT and closes at 5:00 p.m. CT.

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZrqlsAo7bVg

Posted by: Ciampino - to the blue yonder at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (i0xsb)

182 When Patel shows up and wants to see the memos, they will all be gone. Scrubbed from the systems.

That is when he needs to fire every GS-14 and above.

And give the stink-eye to the GS-13s remaining.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:06 PM (ZmEVT)

183 Why was this guy chosen?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 03:48 PM

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Modern journalism is all about synecdoche. Isolate a component, make it representative of The Thing to Be Hated, and unleash hell.

You know it's a fuckin lie. It's always malicious. But in this case, it appears they left receipts.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 16, 2025 04:06 PM (amTrm)

184 WYDEN: “We are in an arms race on clean energy with China.”

BESSENT: “China will build 100 new coal plants this year. There is not a clean energy race. There is an energy race.”
Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:03 PM (RHGPo)

The only thing China is doing for "clean" energy is selling us shitty solar panels. I would bet they don't install them anywhere in country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

185 I did not stay at a Holiday Inn yesterday, but I have a feeling if you've already delivered your final remarks in front of a jury, you're not going to be able to make an offer.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Actually common practice, albeit pricier, to settle a case before a jury takes you apart if you did not do well at trial (civil). The only problem for the defense is that if your trial has went shitty and you have pissed off the judge, the plaintiffs may have no reason to settle before a verdict.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (ctrM5)

186 I sat on two juries.
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I hope you didn't fart.

If only everyone were so considerate.

Posted by: My Office Chair at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (QOCDM)

187 I thought troll season was over since we won the election. Or at least a short hiatus?

Posted by: Piper at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (pRpzT)

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Those limitless Soros paychecks aren't gonna pay themselves you know.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (u6WYG)

188 FBI shut down its DEI office? How many offices do they have, about 500?

So 499 to go.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (GmJua)

189 I did not stay at a Holiday Inn yesterday, but I have a feeling if you've already delivered your final remarks in front of a jury, you're not going to be able to make an offer.
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Naw. You can offer even after the jury verdict comes back and you lost and are up on appeal....

Posted by: It's a type of cognitive blindness at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (HXZiI)

190 "Fondacaro" sounds like a dessert you might order at Olive Garden.

Posted by: With or without sprinkles at January 16, 2025 04:08 PM (DobEs)

191 If CNN loses, maybe the court will make Tater the plaintiff's butler.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 16, 2025 04:01 PM (L/fGl)

He'd be an expert on washing the plaintiff's dick, I'm sure.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)

192 As a kid I vaguely was aware of Gobel as some sort of B-rate actor, but don't recall seeing Brett Sommers anywhere other than Matchgame.

She was Oscar Madison's ex-wife on The Odd Couple (and Klugman's then-wife in real life)

Posted by: Chuck C at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (D0HYP)

193 Also, RIP David Lynch.

Family Guy jumped the shark a long time ago, but this little bit about "How David Lynch Stole Christmas" amused me. https://tinyurl.com/y4xpdxjw

Posted by: Thrawn at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (9Ovst)

194 Modern journalism is all about synecdoche. Isolate a component, make it representative of The Thing to Be Hated, and unleash hell.

You know it's a fuckin lie. It's always malicious. But in this case, it appears they left receipts.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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Easier to say logical fallacy of composition. I haven't seen the use of synecdoche since I retired from academia. Honestly, I had to look it up myself to make sure I remembered the definition correctly. So well played.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (ctrM5)

195 Posted by: Piper at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (pRpzT)

I have yet to determine whether the "Student" is the troll of many handles or a new one. I haven't read all of his posts so if it's "many handles man "he's refraining-so far from personal insults/- with a lesser degree of "why don't you have my searing intellect and know this?!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (SfX0V)

196 The only thing China is doing for "clean" energy is selling us shitty solar panels. I would bet they don't install them anywhere in country.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)
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They're going to have Uyghur children in the smokestacks cleaning them as they go along.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (krQz2)

197 I hope you didn't fart.

It was hilarious and educational. There was one or two white woman that did not want to convict the white woman defendant of anything.

There was an Japanese-American man that wanted to convict on everything.

There was a woman that needed to get out of there because she had a cruise to go on. (Note: she should have requested a postponement of her jury duty)

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (ZmEVT)

198
What if CNN is deliberately tanking this thing?

I know, trying to double-think stupidity on the left is dangerous.

Posted by: Auspex at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (j4U/Z)

199 CNN is attempting to weasel its way out of defaming Young as working for the "black market" of human smuggling by now claiming they had no idea "black market" meant an illegal market, and they thought it only meant an... "unregulated market."

LOL. I can remember when CNN and the Turner networks were all under the same roof in the 80s, the pro wrestling shows were forbidden from describing something that the heel would bring into the ring to scrape open the scalp of the babyface as a "foreign object." They had to refer to them as an "international object." This seems little different.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM (Rw0Zp)

200 When Patel shows up and wants to see the memos, they will all be gone. Scrubbed from the systems.
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He's gonna have everyone's DMs....

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM (HXZiI)

201 Actually common practice, albeit pricier, to settle a case before a jury takes you apart if you did not do well at trial (civil). The only problem for the defense is that if your trial has went shitty and you have pissed off the judge, the plaintiffs may have no reason to settle before a verdict.
Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:07 PM (ctrM5)

And Mr Young said he ain’t settling, so…

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM (GmJua)

202 187 I thought troll season was over since we won the election. Or at least a short hiatus?

Posted by: Piper
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I would watch out for impersonation trolls as well. But, Ace got a hat tip from Elon Musk no less and VDH this week so you may see a lot of new NICs around.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM (ctrM5)

203 Even with Lewy body dementia, Ted Turner's still smarter than his ex-wife Jane.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM (77rzZ)

204
That's a fantastic idea for a half-hour comedy program.
Posted by: ace at January 16, 2025 04:04 PM (KRtlO)

Mr. Belvequeer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:11 PM (Zz0t1)

205 Modern journalism is all about synecdoche

I confess I don't know what synecdoche means which is why I only lurk

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 16, 2025 04:11 PM (kTd/k)

206 It's a clever play really.

You can't be liable for libel if you don't know what words mean.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:11 PM (+iIV1)

207 34
What's with people adding "super" to everything, today?

That's super-easy!
She's super nice. That jacket was super cheap.

What happened to "really" and "very?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (oKFJt)
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Absolutely instead of Yes, Definitely, Of course, etc,

Posted by: Ciampino - absolutely super misuse at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (i0xsb)

208 What if CNN is deliberately tanking this thing?
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Trying to piss off the Judge to create error or a mistral is a thing. It's not a good thing, but desperate mf'ers do desperate things.

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (HXZiI)

209 He glanced one final time, and then proceeded to pee on the tree trunk before happily marching into the house.

He's a professional.
Posted by: Orson at January 16, 2025 04:05 PM (dIske)
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He'd try to make friends with everyone in the press room and we'd be treated to the spectacle of some of the low T press runts screaming like little girls at the mean doggy trying to lick them to death.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (tT6L1)

210 Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM (ctrM5

Oh good. I think they should have to pay an entry fee to troll.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (SfX0V)

211 As a kid I vaguely was aware of Gobel as some sort of B-rate actor, but don't recall seeing Brett Sommers anywhere other than Matchgame.

She was Oscar Madison's ex-wife on The Odd Couple (and Klugman's then-wife in real life)
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I had totally forgotten that--you're right!

And speaking of Klugman, I caught a few minutes of a "Quincy" rerun the other night--its rather funny how Quincy was written as having some sort of pull with the ladies.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (azSra)

212 Modern journalism is all about synecdoche
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Thought it was more Manhattan.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (krQz2)

213 What's with people adding "super" to everything, today?

That's super-easy!
She's super nice. That jacket was super cheap.

What happened to "really" and "very?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 16, 2025 03:44 PM (oKFJt)
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Absolutely instead of Yes, Definitely, Of course, etc,
Posted by: Ciampino - absolutely super misuse at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (i0xsb)
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Perfect!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:13 PM (tT6L1)

214 When Patel shows up and wants to see the memos, they will all be gone. Scrubbed from the systems.
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He's gonna have everyone's DMs....

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM

All of that $hit is already gone. The last tech update magically erased 4 years of texts, emails, dm's and phone records.

The secret service has already done that in regards to the first Trump assassination.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 16, 2025 04:13 PM (Rcnd3)

215 I bet, if you go back through CNN's history, they've done PLENTY of 'news articles' on the black market and how it functions.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:13 PM (Zz0t1)

216 So this is like suing the cia?

Which is like suing tax payers.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 16, 2025 04:13 PM (MM6+c)

217 I knew what synecdoche was.

Didn't feel like using it.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (fV+MH)

218 And Mr Young said he ain’t settling, so…
Posted by: BurtTC
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From what I read, he opposed settling before trial because he wanted his story out there and used the trial to show the bad practices of CNN journalism.

Given the trial did not go particularly well for CNN, Young might not settle until after having a jury verdict in hand. FWIW, I haven't seen the jury instructions which will be crucial in this case. Florida may use pattern civil jury instructions. I know they do in criminal cases. That will be a critical step as the judge instructs the jury on how to apply the law to the case to reach their decision.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (ctrM5)

219 When Patel shows up and wants to see the memos, they will all be gone. Scrubbed from the systems.
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"Unfortunately all are files were transferred to California two weeks ago."

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (krQz2)

220 Mr Biden said: “Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power.

--

Funny how "misinformation" and "disinformation" exploded into the lexicon when Democrats and leftists all over the world lost their ability to control the information and opinion of others.

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (qBdHI)

221 Speaking of human trafficking . . .

Traffickers caught after woman found in glove box
Eight members of a UK-based people smuggling gang are facing jail after a woman was …

https://is.gd/DQcXrp

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I think we can assume it was NOT Whoopi Goldberg.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (L/fGl)

222
Mr. Belvequeer.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:11 PM (Zz0t1)
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I laughed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

223 China stopped building their own solar facilities two years ago

Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (RHGPo)

224 "Hand" is synecdoche for sailor. When a part is used to identity the whole.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (ZmEVT)

225 I'm donating a lot of my late mother's stuff now.

Is there any reason to donate dvd's to Goodwill? Some people still have DVD players. One store in town still rents them.

How is there not a 'Columbo' channel on Roku or PlutoTV?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Stateless at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (jvJvP)

226
I laughed.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

My work here is done.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (Zz0t1)

227 sat on two juries.
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I hope you didn't fart.
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Had a case where the other jurors complained about how one guy stank. Sent note to judge during trial. He found out the guy was farting in the jury room. Kicked him off and seated the alternate. Weird.

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (HXZiI)

228 Crusader: "...its rather funny how Quincy was written as having some sort of pull with the ladies."

Well, it is the land of make-believe. They'd have you think they're smart, too.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (aXxgO)

229 214 When Patel shows up and wants to see the memos, they will all be gone. Scrubbed from the systems.
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He's gonna have everyone's DMs....

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM

All of that $hit is already gone. The last tech update magically erased 4 years of texts, emails, dm's and phone records.

The secret service has already done that in regards to the first Trump assassination.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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NSA has them more or less and most likely there is all sorts of automated behind the scene backups that most ordinary bureaucrats have no idea how to shut off or access. Telcoms have some of it as well.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (ctrM5)

230 206 It's a clever play really.

You can't be liable for libel if you don't know what words mean.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:11 PM (+iIV1)

CNN is not evil it's just that their whole staff is too stupid to understand the plain meaning of words and all misunderstand those same words in the same way.

For real.

Journalism.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (ecBOp)

231 Back in Trump’s first term in office, a bipartisan group of congressmen—Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA) and then-Reps. Ted Budd (R-NC) and William Lacy Clay (D-MO)—introduced a plan called the Generating American Income and Infrastructure Act. The so-called GAIIN Act, for short, even won the support of then-President Trump according to an interview Kelly did with Breitbart News in 2018. But, as Trump’s bipartisan efforts stalled out when Democrats went after him later that year with bogus impeachment charges, the proposal similarly lost steam. Now that Trump is returning to the White House with a massive refreshed working-class coalition across racial demographics, though, the idea is getting fresh consideration from top members of Congress and power players in Washington.

Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (RHGPo)

232 She was Oscar Madison's ex-wife on The Odd Couple (and Klugman's then-wife in real life)

Google up her younger pics. She was a real cutie.

Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (QOCDM)

233 China stopped building their own solar facilities two years ago
Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (RHGPo)

Because they realized that while it is adequate for your "250 in 1 Electronics Kit" from Radio Shack, it's unreliable horseshit for running a grid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (Zz0t1)

234 Is there any reason to donate dvd's to Goodwill? Some people still have DVD players. One store in town still rents them.

How is there not a 'Columbo' channel on Roku or PlutoTV?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Stateless at January 16, 2025 04:15 PM (jvJvP)
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Stateless, we have our own movies server. My wife and I get DVD's from swap meets, I rip them and put them on the server. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does this.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (tT6L1)

235 Funny how "misinformation" and "disinformation" exploded into the lexicon when Democrats and leftists all over the world lost their ability to control the information and opinion of others.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (qBdHI)

Why is trump starting all these fires in California?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (+iIV1)

236 Jury : no , Mr Axelrod we will take it out on CNN

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (dR02F)

237 212 Modern journalism is all about synecdoche
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Thought it was more Manhattan.

gin-soaked raisins > a manhattan

Posted by: theresa heinz-kerry at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (oY6Yp)

238 Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 03:55 PM (ctrM5)

Knew I could trust you to bring it together.

Posted by: ... at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (ggGAr)

239 I knew what synecdoche was.

Didn't feel like using it.
Posted by: eleven

A city in central NY?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (L/fGl)

240 I sat on two juries.

Posted by: Chris Christie at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (v0R5T)

241 NSA has them more or less and most likely there is all sorts of automated behind the scene backups that most ordinary bureaucrats have no idea how to shut off or access. Telcoms have some of it as well.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Just until Tulsi wants to see them.

Then, whoopsy!

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (krQz2)

242 I have yet to determine whether the "Student" is the troll of many handles or a new one.

It's Scogg.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (xCA6C)

243 235 Why is trump starting all these fires in California?

to buy up the land cheap for his puppetmaster, putin

Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (oY6Yp)

244 BabylonBee: Biden Takes Credit For Developing Dementia So Kamala Would Take His Place And Lose To Trump So Hamas Would Release Hostages

Posted by: SMOD at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (RHGPo)

245 Jury instructions. LOL. So much time arguing over what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (ZmEVT)

246 220 Mr Biden said: “Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation, enabling the abuse of power.

ITS FUNNY CAUSE CNN IS CLAIMING THE SPREAD MISINFORMATION ON ACCIDENT TO AVOID A BILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT.

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Posted by: Ben Rothliesbergergler at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (ecBOp)

247 225 I'm donating a lot of my late mother's stuff now.

Is there any reason to donate dvd's to Goodwill? Some people still have DVD players. One store in town still rents them.

How is there not a 'Columbo' channel on Roku or PlutoTV?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Stateless
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Yes on donating DVDs etc. Lots of people around like having physical media (like me).

FWIW, not to be intrusive while you are mourning, but you may can get tax deductions for donations (at least in the US) to offset estate taxes (and/or personal taxes for you). There should be some online schedule around by searching of the average donation values of normal goods.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (ctrM5)

248 New York is more about Manhattan, and not as much about Synecdoche.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (krQz2)

249
gin-soaked raisins > a manhattan
Posted by: theresa heinz-kerry at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (oY6Yp)

Heh......my mother read somewhere that soaking golden raisins in gin and eating them helped with joint pain. She was burning through a handle of gin a month.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (Zz0t1)

250 He's gonna have everyone's DMs....

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:10 PM

All of that $hit is already gone. The last tech update magically erased 4 years of texts, emails, dm's and phone records.
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DMs. Elon has all their dirty secrets, because the fools used it to communicate. They thought it was their playground... popcorn futures...

Posted by: Just Sayin at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (HXZiI)

251 I sat on two juries.
Posted by: Chris Christie at January 16, 2025 04:17 PM (v0R5T)

While sitting around the house, EMIRITE??!?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (Zz0t1)

252

Oops.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (Zz0t1)

253 217 I knew what synecdoche was.

Didn't feel like using it.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:14 PM (fV+MH)

Well sure, kind of a dochebag move throwing around words like that.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (GmJua)

254 CNN's closing argument seemed terrible to me.

I've been following this trail pretty closely (including watching the full livestream for the last three days) and was basically falling asleep when Axelrod was making his argument.

The only thing that makes sense to me is if he had already given up on the jury ruling for CNN, and he is just going through the motions in order to get to the appeal.

Posted by: ZH Cohen at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (rVq+P)

255 225 How is there not a 'Columbo' channel on Roku or PlutoTV?

there is a columbo channel on pluto.tv. unlike the godzilla channel, it survived the start of the new year.

Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (oY6Yp)

256 Heh......my mother read somewhere that soaking golden raisins in gin and eating them helped with joint pain. She was burning through a handle of gin a month.

And I bet she didn't have any shits to give about joint pain while she was soused. It worked !!!

Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (QOCDM)

257 This is a textbook case of the retributive media seeking out disapproved actors, who didn't strive for public notice, an targeting them for ruin. The message is clear: You don't have to be "somebody" for us to destroy you. In fact, the less prominent you are, the stronger the chilling effect. It's about removing friction against the narrative.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (amTrm)

258 Jury instructions. LOL. So much time arguing over what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (ZmEVT)
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¿Que?

Posted by: New York Juries at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (krQz2)

259 245 Jury instructions. LOL. So much time arguing over what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means.

Posted by: no one of any consequence
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Std in defamation cases is clear and convincing evidence which is the highest std. in Civil Law but considered less than beyond a reasonable doubt.

Jury instructions are critical for a verdict to stand on appeal and also to tell a bunch of yobos how to apply Florida and US law in the case (relatively rare to have a lawyer on the jury for that reason).

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:20 PM (ctrM5)

260 BREAKING NEWS:

"Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."

Posted by: Lady in Black at January 16, 2025 04:21 PM (qBdHI)

261 Goodwill is not a charity. It is an enterprise.

Give to Salvation Army, St. Vinny's (Vincent de Paul, not the mafia) other local thrift stores. We have one in town for the County Disability and Special Needs Board.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:21 PM (ZmEVT)

262 BREAKING NEWS:

"Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 16, 2025 04:21 PM (qBdHI)

Good. The butthurt is STRONG in those homos.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:21 PM (Zz0t1)

263 BREAKING NEWS:

"Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."

Oh, NO!!! Anyway...

Posted by: GEOTUS Trump at January 16, 2025 04:21 PM (xCA6C)

264 248 New York is more about Manhattan, and not as much about Synecdoche.

you misspelled "sycacuse"

Posted by: ear leader at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (oY6Yp)

265 And speaking of Klugman, I caught a few minutes of a "Quincy" rerun the other night--its rather funny how Quincy was written as having some sort of pull with the ladies.
Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:12 PM (azSra)

That show is so corny. As a kid the intro was followed by "Bedtime" so I never saw it but the wife and I have been watching for a few weeks now. You would think that driving off cliffs was the primary cause of death in LA during the 70's. And he's always yelling.

Posted by: Reforger at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (xcIvR)

266
My self-employed father was stiffed by a big corporation for work he did, resulting in his business going under. He sued. The depositions and trial went very badly for the defendants but he settled before the trial was over.

Could he have gotten a lot more in damages had it gone to a jury? Sure, but he would have had to wait God knows how long to collect. You don't eat in the future, you eat today. As it was, I'm convinced the years of stress killed my mother, who died not long after.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (dxSpM)

267 Jury instructions. LOL. So much time arguing over what "beyond a reasonable doubt" means.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE BURDEN OF PROOF IN A CIVIL CASE IS "PREPONDERANCE OF THE EVIDENCE"

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (D0HYP)

268 Axelrod should have just said that CNN is not fluent in English.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (aD39U)

269 Trump's Breath Stinks and I hope who reads him the Oath of Office can hold their breath for 10 minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (7uGna)

270 "Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."
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And nothing of value was lost.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (azSra)

271 "Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."

More Big Macs for the Golden Scalp Weasel !!!

Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (QOCDM)

272 Posted by: Archimedes at January 16, 2025 04:18 PM (xCA6C)

O.K from the posts I read he was actually making some cogent points ( not that I agree) and was not his usual angry self so I thought for a minute if it were Scogg he was having a more mellow day. As I said, he's a bright guy, just has IMO a whole lot of anger issues from way back.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (d6uAc)

273 "Reasonable doubt" should never be uttered in a civil case. Ever.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (amTrm)

274 whig: "Given the trial did not go particularly well for CNN, Young might not settle until after having a jury verdict in hand."

I sure hope he doesn't settle early even if the number is suitably high. It seems like the Court was smiling on him, that the jury was receptive, and that the political climate is perfect for slamming the MFM on principle alone. Granted, I'm not suffering this legal turmoil, so easy for me to say. It's just that, karma being timely, his full damages are deserved and the nation should be aware of the tangible, actual number of dollars of pain is available to them when "the press" violates people so routinely. If damages are publicly known, it will incentivize more to pursue legal relief from these political bastards.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (aXxgO)

275 Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."

Oh, NO!!! Anyway...
Posted by: GEOTUS Trump at January 16, 2025 04:21 PM (xCA6C)

Poor little dears couldn't find anything on the McDonald's menu they would like.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (Lp+GF)

276 The Columbo channel would have to beat out Disney +

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (fV+MH)

277
That show is so corny. As a kid the intro was followed by "Bedtime" so I never saw it but the wife and I have been watching for a few weeks now. You would think that driving off cliffs was the primary cause of death in LA during the 70's. And he's always yelling.
Posted by: Reforger at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (xcIvR)

Like today's medical dramas are any different.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)

278 247 Yes on donating DVDs etc. Lots of people around like having physical media (like me).

i noticed that the trough of $5 dvds was no longer there the last time i went to wal-mart

Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (oY6Yp)

279 It was hilarious and educational. There was one or two white woman that did not want to convict the white woman defendant of anything.

There was an Japanese-American man that wanted to convict on everything.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:09 PM (ZmEVT)
________________

I was a juror in a medical malpractice suit decades ago.

A white liberal woman (this was Berkeley, after all) wanted to find for the plaintiff (a black guy) because "he probably needs the money." Also the defendant, a Jewish neurologist, "probably has lots of money."

Turned out Tyrone went to the ER that night and on arrival in the ER said he'd been drinking with his friends on the street corner when he fell and hit his neck on the curb.

Only later did he remember that he'd sustained the injury hours earlier at work, when workman's comp would obtain.

Hmmm. Which story to believe ....?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

280 Klugman was a fag?

Wow.

Posted by: Rock Husdon and Jim Nabors at January 16, 2025 04:24 PM (ZmEVT)

281 Obama, Clinton and Bush probably all think they're sending a message.

Whatever.

Good riddance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:24 PM (tT6L1)

282 Just until Tulsi wants to see them.

Then, whoopsy!
Posted by: Axeman
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A lot harder in the digital age to actually kill information because nowadays it is spread via apps, etc. to so many different places. Even supposedly 'burn' after reading messaging apps have turned out to be readable with the a good techie on the case.

We are approaching a panopticon of such diffuse and powerful nature that nearly everything that you do or say will be stuck in database somewhere for retrieval. Want something different, you have to be a hermit living in a shack somewhere with no tech at all.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

283 I sure hope he doesn't settle early even if the number is suitably high. It seems like the Court was smiling on him, that the jury was receptive, and that the political climate is perfect for slamming the MFM on principle alone.

I'd tell him to settle. This stuff always gets reversed on appeal. Sullivan and all, as was mentioned earlier today.

Posted by: Student of Human Moves at January 16, 2025 04:24 PM (QOCDM)

284 I heard Carter won't be attending either.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (fV+MH)

285
Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch.

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Crow is on the menu.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (dxSpM)

286 Like today's medical dramas are any different.
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I briefly dated a nurse a decade or more ago. She cringed at what passed for "medical" television dramas.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (azSra)

287 When do Joe's handlers cut off his meds?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (kTd/k)

288 Modern journalism is all about synecdoche.

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Never knew how to pronounce that word (so just looked it up).

Sounds like a city in New York ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (P59V4)

289 Joe Biden = Caligula, Commodus, and Nero in one Rotting Corpse.....

We are reliving Roman history ................

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (houUd)

290 Obama, Clinton and Bush probably all think they're sending a message.

They are. We, the presidents of old, are irrelevant, and were rightly rejected by America. We have no influence anymore.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (xCA6C)

291 Obama, Clinton and Bush probably all think they're sending a message.

Whatever.

Good riddance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:24 PM (tT6L1)

We're not relevant!
We're not relevant!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (+iIV1)

292 I heard Carter won't be attending either.
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But his staff asserts he's sharp as ever, and that they have a difficult time keeping up with him!

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (azSra)

293 278 247 Yes on donating DVDs etc. Lots of people around like having physical media (like me).

i noticed that the trough of $5 dvds was no longer there the last time i went to wal-mart
Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (oY6Yp)

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Physical media is dying.

LG stopped producing Blu-ray players.

Streaming is the apocalyptic future.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

294 You would think that driving off cliffs was the primary cause of death in LA during the 70's.
Posted by: Reforger at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (xcIvR)
________________

Charles Darwin scribbling furiously ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

295 Could he have gotten a lot more in damages had it gone to a jury? Sure, but he would have had to wait God knows how long to collect. You don't eat in the future, you eat today. As it was, I'm convinced the years of stress killed my mother, who died not long after.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Very sad. I'm sorry your family had to go through that.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (77rzZ)

296 The way the left jeered Barbara Bush when she died and that shitweasel is still with them.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (fV+MH)

297 Obama, Clinton and Bush probably all think they're sending a message.
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That they're all has-beens?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (YqDXo)

298
"You were President once? Really? You're kidding me, aren't you?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (dxSpM)

299 284 I heard Carter won't be attending either.

might want to hire an exorcist to make sure

Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (oY6Yp)

300 PDJT named Jon Voight, Mel Gibson and Sylvester Stallone as special ambassadors to Hollyweird.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (NMT5x)

301 Hmmm. Which story to believe ....?
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Both. Power of and. He got hurt at work. Then went out drinking and fell down again.

Posted by: Ok who won??? at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (HXZiI)

302 289 Joe Biden = Caligula, Commodus, and Nero in one Rotting Corpse.....

We are reliving Roman history ................
Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (houUd)

You forgot Pupienus.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (+iIV1)

303 "Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."

Addition by subtraction. Trump will be an even bigger focus. Although, to be fair, the others know they're now inconsequential and would only set themselves up to be diminished further. Trump didn't get bigger; they just got smaller.

OTOH, Trump did actually get bigger.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (aXxgO)

304 >>>"Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."

I would love for a lot of these 'traditional' events to be tossed in the trash. Does anyone really want to have lunch with any of those three assholes?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (CwhoI)

305 There will always be restorers refurbishing players.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (fV+MH)

306 Obama , Clinton and Bush aren't going to the inaugural lunch? Awwwesome , more for me - Chris Christie

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (dR02F)

307 That show is so corny. As a kid the intro was followed by "Bedtime" so I never saw it but the wife and I have been watching for a few weeks now. You would think that driving off cliffs was the primary cause of death in LA during the 70's. And he's always yelling.

Posted by: Reforger at January 16, 2025 04:22 PM (xcIvR)
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He didn't drive off a cliff--it WAS MUH-DUH!!!

The requisite court room grandstanding scenes where Quincy might be threatened with disruption--but too often tolerated did that show in for me.

Posted by: New York Juries at January 16, 2025 04:27 PM (krQz2)

308 You would think that driving off cliffs was the primary cause of death in LA during the 70's.

I guess it replaced death-by-quicksand sometime in the '30s

Posted by: Chuck C at January 16, 2025 04:28 PM (D0HYP)

309 293 Physical media is dying.

LG stopped producing Blu-ray players.

Streaming is the apocalyptic future.

i knew the world was going to hell in a handbasket when netflix stopped shipping dvds. that's like the 242nd sign of the apocalypse or something.

Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:28 PM (oY6Yp)

310 Well heck. If you don't like Trump then stop sticking your munchkin ðick around my ice cream.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 16, 2025 04:28 PM (MM6+c)

311 Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch.
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Oh no! Who knew they were still alive?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

312
LG stopped producing Blu-ray players.

Streaming is the apocalyptic future.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)
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Akshually, technically, LG still makes Blu-ray players. However, they are designed to work with a computer.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:28 PM (tT6L1)

313 Obama, Clinton and Bush probably all think they're sending a message.

Trump's response and Gifts to them all is below.....

https://www.etsy.com/market/free_blow_job_token

Posted by: Ferd Berfal at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (gaVwl)

314 When do Joe's handlers cut off his meds?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (kTd/k)

We'll be paying to keep that f*ck alive for another decade.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)

315 I guess it replaced death-by-quicksand sometime in the '30s
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Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)

316 I heard Carter won't be attending either.
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Some grave matter came up.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (krQz2)

317 LOL. So, instead of arguing over the meaning of "beyond a reasonable doubt" they will be arguing over the meaning of "express malice and actual malice."

For shits and giggles, go over to Catholic media and see how they get all twisted over whether or not Francis is an actual heretic or "manifest heretic."

Posted by: Rock Husdon and Jim Nabors at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (ZmEVT)

318 Will Trump wear his McDonald's apron to the inauguration?

Posted by: Or the reflective vest? at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (DobEs)

319 309 i knew the world was going to hell in a handbasket when netflix stopped shipping dvds. that's like the 242nd sign of the apocalypse or something.
Posted by: anachronda at January 16, 2025 04:28 PM (oY6Yp)

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Physical media will continue to exist, but it's going to be the collector's market, not the mass market.

That just means that we'll get to a point where buying a Blu-ray is like buying vinyl.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

320 "Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch."
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Obama could attend if he had a napkin draped across his forearm.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:30 PM (YqDXo)

321 Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)
Posted by: Crusader

Gilligan's Island, too.

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 04:30 PM (77rzZ)

322 Also, Death By Quicksand would be a great band name.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:30 PM (azSra)

323 Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)
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In those days amnesia was everywhere.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:30 PM (krQz2)

324 We'll be paying to keep that f*ck alive for another decade.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
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It depends on whether or not Doctuh Jill gets tired of him and the rest of the family. Be funny if she was the trustee, because no one can rob an estate quite as efficiently as a trustee.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (tT6L1)

325 Off Rock Hudson and Gomer Pyle sock.

Did you ever see Rock Hudson's house? Really very garish.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (ZmEVT)

326 "For shits and giggles, go over to Catholic media and see how they get all twisted over whether or not Francis is an actual heretic or "manifest heretic.""

Depends if he lightened up.

Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (fV+MH)

327 For shits and giggles, go over to Catholic media and see how they get all twisted over whether or not Francis is an actual heretic or "manifest heretic."

Posted by: Rock Husdon and Jim Nabors at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (ZmEVT)
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Compromise: can't we all just agree he's a shithead, and let it go at that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

328 Did you ever see Rock Hudson's house? Really very garish.
Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (ZmEVT)
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Definitely homo, then.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (tT6L1)

329 I heard Carter won't be attending either.

might want to hire an exorcist to make sure
Posted by: anachronda

Last time they wheeled him out, to vote, parts started falling off... they gave up after his jaw dropped.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (/lPRQ)

330 Trump should roast the hell out of ex-President cowards that don't turn up.

I'm sure he can do it too.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (krQz2)

331 Did you ever see Rock Hudson's house? Really very garish.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (ZmEVT)
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He should have gotten a straight interior decorator.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (YqDXo)

332 Thanks everyone.

FWIW, not to be intrusive while you are mourning, but you may can get tax deductions for donations (at least in the US) to offset estate taxes (and/or personal taxes for you). There should be some online schedule around by searching of the average donation values of normal goods.
Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:19 PM (ctrM5

I'll look into that.
Thank you.

Posted by: Stateless at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (jvJvP)

333
Compromise: can't we all just agree he's a shithead, and let it go at that?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

Always wondered......Which is worse?

Being a shithead or a shitheel.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (Zz0t1)

334 Who knows what a jury will rule.

Donald Trump only person in history convicted of Being blackmailed and the blackmailer presented as a prosecuting witness.

( yeah I know it’s about the payments but it’s really not and that just as ridiculous)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (D6PGr)

335 I heard Carter won't be attending either.
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He was just buried.

Posted by: Axeman at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (krQz2)

336 284 I heard Carter won't be attending either.
Posted by: eleven at January 16, 2025 04:25 PM (fV+MH)

I would absolutely invite Jacob Chandler, Julian Assange, and other enemies of the last regime, give them prominent places in the event.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 04:32 PM (GmJua)

337 Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)
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In those days amnesia was everywhere.
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Yes! And apparently there was easy access to nitroglycerine.

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (azSra)

338 >>@PU28453638

>>🚨 Breaking: President Trump just announced on Dan Bongino’s radio show that he’s determined to expose the truth about January 6:

• Find out who the J6 pipe bomber is.
• Identify the mysterious “scaffold man.”
• Uncover the real story behind Ray Epps.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (LkLld)

339 Who gives a Kamal Harris (I mean Rat's) Ass ???????

Barry cannot attend because his Ass still hurts from a rough session with Big Mike reenacting Johnny Holmes Modified Pushups on Barry's Tender Tushy..

Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch.

Posted by: Ferd Berfal at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (A2iSa)

340
Aaron Spelling made a career out of producing hour long shows with guest cameo appearances by washed-up old hollywood types that my grandmother was devoted to.

"Burke's Law" with Gene Barry was a particular favorite.

Posted by: Auspex at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (j4U/Z)

341 Trump should roast the hell out of ex-President cowards that don't turn up.

I'm sure he can do it too.

Nah, it's better to go with "oh, I suppose I would if I ever thought about you".

Posted by: Archimedes at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (xCA6C)

342 Eh, former Presidents can do what they want to, go screw themselves for all I care.
It's obvious they don't like American traditions

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (fwDg9)

343 🚨 Breaking: President Trump just announced on Dan Bongino’s radio show that he’s determined to expose the truth about January 6:

• Find out who the J6 pipe bomber is.
• Identify the mysterious “scaffold man.”
• Uncover the real story behind Ray Epps.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (LkLld)

This must've been leaked and that's why Schiff and crew were grilling Blondie about Jan 6th so.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (Zz0t1)

344 51
The one I don't get is "supermodel." They used to be just "models." What happened to make them "super?"

Posted by: Bulg at January 16, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)
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It parallels 'star'. These days anyone who had a bit part in a movie 'starred' in the movie and is a 'star'. Back in the day 'stars' were actors and actresses who made the big bucks and pulled in the audiences: Richard Burton, Liz Taylor, Ava Garner, Rita Hayworth, John Wayne, Burt Lancaster, .......

Posted by: Ciampino - absolutely superstar at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (i0xsb)

345 Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)
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In detective shows it was getting "run off the road."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (YqDXo)

346 Nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (2UnvF)

347 Death By Quicksand didn't do badly when it opened off Broadway in late 1987. But the audience found an overabundance of tropical music and hula skirts to be too much when coupled with mediocre acting and somewhat cheesy set design.The performances were lucky to break even.

Posted by: Snooty Theater Critic at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (DobEs)

348 Find out who the J6 pipe bomber is.
• Identify the mysterious “scaffold man.”
• Uncover the real story behind Ray Epps.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (LkLld)

LBJ promises to find out about the hell a knoll is, and then who was on it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (+iIV1)

349 So, as I understand it, CNN's favorite phrase when "reporting" something said by anyone they dislike, the term "without evidence" can always apply, and means the disliked party is lying.

But that phrase is a one-way street, in that no allegations THEY make can be even hinted to be not true, because the "without evidence" term is never applied.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (KiBMU)

350 Dammit, I hate when auto cucumber corrects at the last moment.

Chansley, you shitty app.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2025 04:34 PM (GmJua)

351 Axeman: "In those days amnesia was everywhere."

I remember the quicksand but not the amnesia.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (aXxgO)

352 I want to know who Scaffold Commander is. He has to be a Fed not just some thug

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (fwDg9)

353 I buy Blu-ray or DVD then upload them to my server like a hombrew Netflix so my family can search for movies without going thru folders. I sometimes sell them on Ebay so then I can buy more.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (FCrpy)

354
Compromise: can't we all just agree he's a shithead, and let it go at that?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

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That's my view. He's just a bad pope. The Church has had them before. Paul VI was even worse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (dxSpM)

355 Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)
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In those days amnesia was everywhere.
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Yes! And apparently there was easy access to nitroglycerine.
Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (azSra)
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Fun fact: Explosive amnesia killed more cowboys than all other causes combined.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (7fElN)

356 It parallels 'star'. These days anyone who had a bit part in a movie 'starred' in the movie and is a 'star'.
_________________

A "superstar" is someone who appeared - albeit briefly - in a movie and was later in a TV commercial.

"Legendary" is someone who is expected to die soon.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (YqDXo)

357 I remember the quicksand but not the amnesia.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (aXxgO)
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ISWYDT

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 16, 2025 04:36 PM (tT6L1)

358 So many humiliated former presidents...

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 16, 2025 04:36 PM (lTGtQ)

359 I don’t blame Bush. How can you have lunch with the person who blamed you for 9/11. That would be being a cuck.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 16, 2025 04:37 PM (D6PGr)

360 Obama, Clinton and Bush probably all think they're sending a message.
Whatever.
Good riddance.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker

They're sending a message but not the one they think they are. They don't deserve a place at the table and I hope to see their skullduggery exposed in the coming years.

Posted by: Cheri at January 16, 2025 04:37 PM (oiNtH)

361 Former Presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will not attend the traditional inaugural lunch.

Oh good, we won't have to count the silverware.

Posted by: White House Kitchen Staff at January 16, 2025 04:39 PM (2qQF1)

362 Axeman: "In those days amnesia was everywhere."
______________

I liked when people got hit on the head and were knocked out for hours before awakening unfazed.

A friend of mine was accidentally kicked in the head diving for a throw at first base when the runner attempted to dive over him.

He was knocked out for ten minutes, and had to have emergency brain surgery to relieve the pressure on his brain from the resulting hematoma.

But people bopped on the head were knocked out for half an hour before coming to with no ill effects.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2025 04:39 PM (YqDXo)

363 CNN deserves what they get.
Cue the popcorn!

Posted by: Tracy at January 16, 2025 04:39 PM (GOnfF)

364 Reminds me of the scene in The Verdict, where the jury comes back from deliberations and asks the judge if they're limited in the amount they award to what the victim asked for.

Posted by: Socratease at January 16, 2025 04:43 PM (t8Egx)

365 Akshually, technically, LG still makes Blu-ray players. However, they are designed to work with a computer.
Posted by: blake

Yeah, I have several as I use them for long time archival storage. Thinking about a media center build though which would relegate physical media to a box in the basement. And I have been digitizing my CD and LPs as well as car radios are going away from even a CD player.

I have niche tastes and popular music streaming services don't fill it.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:52 PM (ctrM5)

366 Poor little dears couldn't find anything on the McDonald's menu they would like.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 16, 2025 04:23 PM (Lp+GF)

They didn't see the McDicks on the menu

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 16, 2025 04:53 PM (NtVYv)

367 359 I don’t blame Bush. How can you have lunch with the person who blamed you for 9/11. That would be being a cuck.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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After GWB helped cover up government malfeasance and illegal acts post hoc with The 9/11 Commission, I care not for his particular reputation.

My Pet Goat, indeed.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:54 PM (ctrM5)

368 364 Reminds me of the scene in The Verdict, where the jury comes back from deliberations and asks the judge if they're limited in the amount they award to what the victim asked for.
Posted by: Socratease
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Sometimes I think the rightful remedy to outrageous violations by the defendant is simply abrogate ownership of the asset and turn it over to the winner at court to do with as they please.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:55 PM (ctrM5)

369 261
Didn't the Salvation Army go woke or something? Or am I confusing it with some other debacle?

Posted by: Ciampino - superbly absolute at January 16, 2025 04:58 PM (i0xsb)

370 359 I don’t blame Bush. How can you have lunch with the person who blamed you for 9/11. That would be being a cuck.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
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BTW, GWB repeatedly was accused of wrongdoing, being a cokehead, drunkard, etc. by Dems and he still found time to sit with them to eat dinner.

Good riddance of the entire Bush clan--the entire nation is poorer and less free because of those assholes, Pappy Bush included.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:58 PM (ctrM5)

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Didn't the Salvation Army go woke or something? Or am I confusing it with some other debacle?
Posted by: Ciampino
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Yep, over troons and gays. They went gay for corporate pay. Same as the Trans Scouts USA.

Posted by: whig at January 16, 2025 04:59 PM (ctrM5)

372 Streaming is the apocalyptic future.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 16, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

So make your DvD cache into a streaming server.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 05:46 PM (n7h9X)

373 Death-by-quicksand was still a thing in the westerns of the '50s and '60s (Bonanza, Wild Wild West, High Chapparel, etc)

Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:29 PM (azSra)
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In those days amnesia was everywhere.
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Yes! And apparently there was easy access to nitroglycerine.
Posted by: Crusader at January 16, 2025 04:33 PM (azSra)
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Fun fact: Explosive amnesia killed more cowboys than all other causes combined.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 16, 2025 04:35 PM (7fElN)

I remember a hilarious "Big Valley" show where the pretty Daughter Audra (Linda Evans) caught Anthrax and was hidden by the cattle town and they tried to convince Mom Barkely (Barbara Stanwick) that she never existed. Don't know if Lee Majors was in that episode.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 16, 2025 05:50 PM (n7h9X)

374 I have this idea for a comedy how - it goes like this

Major news organization defames heroic former navy seal, who then sues for defamation. In court the news organization lies and perjures itself, and the lawyer is a real tool.

As punishment the jury awards the Navy Seal $1 billion. The news organization goes bankrupt and so is instead GIVEN to the Navy seal in compensation.

Hijinks ensue.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 16, 2025 05:55 PM (nLFEI)

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