In a "Huge Win," the Woke Corporate Cartel "Net Zero" Stops Operations as Corporations Back Away from Toxic Wokeness

This was the group of financial services companies using their immense power to force countries to immiserate themselves by not producing energy.

The Net Zero Asset Managers (NZAM) coalition -- a United Nations--sponsored collection of financial services companies that have pledged to negate their portfolio's greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 or sooner -- suspended activities after investment firm BlackRock announced its departure from the group, according to a press release.
BlackRock, which manages over $10 trillion and has been a leader in environmental, social and governance (ESG) investing, announced its exit from NZAM Thursday, with its vice-chair Philipp Hildebrand saying the firm's involvement in the environmental coalition "caused confusion regarding BlackRock's practices and subjected us to legal inquiries from various public officials." Now, NZAM has pressed pause altogether, halting operations while it conducts a review of its activities, an NZAM press release published Monday stated.
"Recent developments in the U.S. and different regulatory and client expectations in investors' respective jurisdictions have led to NZAM launching a review of the initiative to ensure NZAM remains fit for purpose in the new global context," NZAM reportedly wrote in the letter. "As the initiative undergoes this review, it is suspending activities to track signatory implementation and reporting. NZAM will also remove the commitment statement and list of NZAM signatories from its website, as well as their targets and related case studies, pending the outcome of the review."
A slew of other financial services had left NZAM prior to BlackRock's Thursday exit, including Goldman Sachs Group, Wells Fargo & Co., Citigroup, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase & Co. BlackRock's exit came amid a broader corporate strategy shift away from environmental, social and governance (ESG) investing, with the firm only supporting about 4% of the 493 environmental and social investment proposals shareholders put forward between the end of June 2023 and the end of June 2024, down from a rate of 47% in 2021.
BlackRock was a major supporter of ESG investing in years prior, with CEO Larry Fink claiming in 2020 that "climate risk is investment risk" and that climate change would lead to a "fundamental reallocation of capital."

Oh you mean Larry Fink, who's been using financial power to pressure companies and entire nations to follow the Global Socialist Movement's line?

Like an... oligarch, almost?

Alternative energy continues to dazzle.

- A fire broke out at Vistra Corp.'s Moss Landing complex in California, one of the world's biggest battery storage facilities, prompting evacuations. Local officials said a fire suppressant system failed.
Every rack of batteries at the facility has a fire suppressant system fed by an on-site system, and this system failed, Chief Joel Mendoza with the North County Fire District, said during a press briefing Friday. The county declared a local emergency.
Vistra executives acknowledged the system failure at the briefing. Pete Ziegler, who manages the facility, added, "We don't know what started this event yet."

Regardless of the veracity and/or degree of “global warming”that contributes to modern-day natural disasters, this defense is being increasingly used by politicians and others to capitulate responsibility.
It’s not a matter of being responsible to mitigate the possibility of… https://t.co/BMtcY6mZmO
— Justine Bateman (@JustineBateman) January 17, 2025

Unrelated:

BREAKING: CBS is considering settling the $10 billion lawsuit by President Trump for election interference

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— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) January 17, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 04:26 PM

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1 Hmm

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2025 04:26 PM (aD39U)

2 First?!?

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:26 PM (pgwxJ)

3 Well, hoping for two Firsts in one day is just plain greedy.

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:27 PM (pgwxJ)

4 Read the content...

Posted by: Inogame at January 17, 2025 04:28 PM (53oGX)

5 Still not tired of winning.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at January 17, 2025 04:28 PM (N39Ws)

6 First CNN, now CBS.

Chances the other networks will figure out what time it is?

0.5%

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:29 PM (pgwxJ)

7 BREAKING: CBS is considering settling the $10 billion lawsuit by President Trump for election interference

Will it be tried in Florida?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2025 04:30 PM (aD39U)

8 "We don't know what started this event yet."

Lithium and oxygen, tempestuous lovers.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 04:30 PM (w7peH)

9 I don't believe they are actually getting rid of the DIE. I suspect they are making the motions and acting like they are getting rid of this garbage just because Trump won. If a democrat wins in 2028 they will just pull the curtains off of the furniture and restart everything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 17, 2025 04:30 PM (Rcnd3)

10 6 First CNN, now CBS.

Chances the other networks will figure out what time it is?

0.5%
Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:29 PM (pgwxJ)
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Don't forget ABC.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (G0vdT)

11 Sabotage is a possibility

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (KQk9m)

12 China have perfect record of EV battery storage safety. No fires have ever been reported!

Posted by: Chinese Spokesman Say at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (EI0rs)

13
Sounds like the Coakroaches are scattering before Jan 21st, as cockroaches do when they are exposed.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (MsCOV)

14 "Edited Answer" does her no favors, either. Dumb as a stump.

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (D9hgC)

15 Sabotage is a possibility
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (KQk9m)

Sounds like...classical music.

Posted by: Spock at January 17, 2025 04:32 PM (Ad8y9)

16
They are Disbanding they are a Racket.

And they are afraid the Trump Hammer is going to come down on their Racket.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2025 04:33 PM (MsCOV)

17 "We don't know what started this event yet."

Lithium-ion batteries. Anything else you need to know?

Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2025 04:33 PM (D9hgC)

18 ... a United Nations--sponsored collection of financial services companies ...

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Trump should dissolve the United Nations and raze the building -- preferably with most of the ambassadores still inside.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 04:33 PM (ilFGH)

19 Sabotage is a possibility
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (KQk9m)

Listen all ya all, it's a sabotage!

/ Beastie Boys

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at January 17, 2025 04:33 PM (nXhwP)

20 14 "Edited Answer" does her no favors, either. Dumb as a stump.
Posted by: t-bird at January 17, 2025 04:31 PM (D9hgC)
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Must of driven the editors crazy. "There's got to be something we can use!"

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 04:33 PM (G0vdT)

21 BREAKING: CBS is considering settling the $10 billion lawsuit by President Trump for election interference

Will it be tried in Florida?
Posted by: Grump928(C)

If CBS demands the terms of the settlement not be disclosed, then it becomes a hush money criminal case right?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (fQmeC)

22
The days of the obama corrupt DOJ are O-V-E-R.

This ain't 2017 again.

The rats are running for cover, this time.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (MsCOV)

23 I hope it's because a bunch of small investors - like moi - decided to trade out all their high ESG-score mutual funds for low ESG-score mutual funds.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (hB7mE)

24 Whoa CBS.. That could really cost you a lot for your word salad removal

Posted by: It's me donna at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (VE6XX)

25 This is the same as the FBI announcing they've closed down their Office of Diversity and Inclusion. Nothing will change, the useless diversity hires will still run their programs from a different unit, they just want the fig leaf to be able to tell Trump they don't have an official DEI element.

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (pgwxJ)

26
Hmmmm.

Have these companies' lawyers started looking at the possibility of the stock holders suing the Board/CEO/etc,

for violating their fiduciary responsibility to the stock holders via ESG nonsense.

ESG is simply an excuse to shovel profits away from stockholders and into the hands of political grifters.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (iJfKG)

27 "Net Zero" = Sharia-compliant banking for leftists.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2025 04:35 PM (pMi6S)

28 Can't stand it, I know you planned it. I'ma set it straight this Watergate...

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 04:35 PM (KQk9m)

29 Funny thing is, if we had cheap energy we would have the economic activity levels necessary to get to sustainable renewable energy far faster than with government mandates to shut down all competition to it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 04:35 PM (lUFok)

30 Will people notice?

- windmills and solar causing high energy prices and industrial economy collapse
- Anti-fracking and shuttered nuclear causing people to freeze in Europe
- Utility storage batteries causing fires
- "green" forest management and water policies causing fires.

etc.

It should be pretty clear that all the problems that the AGW (anthropenic global warming) fearmongers warned us about are coming to pass. The thing is though, they are caused by their mitigation policies, and not by the AGW.

Posted by: Gentlemen, assemble! at January 17, 2025 04:35 PM (0k/qJ)

31 Oh you mean Larry Fink, who's been using financial power to pressure companies and entire nations to follow the Global Socialist Movement's line?

Like an... oligarch, almost?

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There's still time for F. Joe Mugabe to award him the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 04:36 PM (ilFGH)

32 26
Hmmmm.

Have these companies' lawyers started looking at the possibility of the stock holders suing the Board/CEO/etc,

for violating their fiduciary responsibility to the stock holders via ESG nonsense.

ESG is simply an excuse to shovel profits away from stockholders and into the hands of political grifters.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2025 04:34 PM (iJfKG)

This … all of this.

Posted by: browndog breathing deeply at January 17, 2025 04:36 PM (TTAGa)

33 Good afternoon good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2025 04:36 PM (WXNFJ)

34 Vanguard announced a similar policy shift. They actually cited going back to Jack Bogle's roots. Ironic considering their new CEO was an SVP at Blackrock this time last year.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 17, 2025 04:37 PM (GTqXr)

35 Blackrock and any of these financial or public companies have an actual duty recorded in law to act in the clients or shareholders best interests. They have only been protected by a DoJ and SEC that subverts those laws and has written regulations attempting to obfuscate the actual statutes. Trump has made it clear these regulations will be eliminated as per the recent SCOTUS decision limiting the ability of executive branch agencies to bypass Congress. They are also losing these cases in lower courts as these obligations are not same obscure requirement, they underpin the entire industry. These companies see the litigation headlights coming and they’re trying to get ahead of them.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2025 04:37 PM (iiQg8)

36 What they still haven't learned about Trump: he's a counter puncher, not a bender over, here it comes again.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 04:38 PM (L/fGl)

37 I fell confident DEI and other wokeness will return like the tide.

Posted by: Eromero at January 17, 2025 04:38 PM (jgmnb)

38 OK - just as a big damn "I told you so".

Anybody from back in the day that were big, big pushers of "free trade" and "lower top marginal rates" wanna' admit they were wrong ?

I can think of one - but he's no longer with us. Used to host a blog. And was real in your face about patrician families.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:38 PM (E0n90)

39 I could get used to all this winning.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 04:38 PM (LkLld)

40 I'm not saying it's insurance fraud arson, BUT IF I WANTED TO DO THAT, I'd sabotage or "neglect" the fire suppression system.

Posted by: Wally at January 17, 2025 04:39 PM (ZEuC7)

41 Benz had a good livestream where he goes over the finances of FJP (fair and just prosecutors) ie, the "soros" prosecutor policy tentacle.

He is saying that most of their funding is from USAID -- The CIA group that is set up to give the CIA money to fund NGOs in foreign countries to advance "democracy."

- So the soros prosecutors are really USAID prosecutors.
- And the CIA is directly funding the marxist revolution in the USA

Posted by: Gentlemen, assemble! at January 17, 2025 04:39 PM (0k/qJ)

42 I hope this walk away from Net Zero is real. I fear its like DEI, where they (ahem, FBI) publish a statement but then just give it another name and hide it deep in the HR department.

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 04:39 PM (G0vdT)

43 President Biden is horrified that billionaires are using their money to gather power...

...rather than people using power to gather money, like the Bidens, the Clintons the Obamas and the Pelosis.

One thing that shows how terrible a president Biden was, during his time on top of the heap, the Bidens raked in 30 to 40 million dollars from foreign sources. Hell, when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State, 40 million dollars was a good WEEK for the Clinton Global Initiative!

Posted by: JB1000 at January 17, 2025 04:39 PM (agR+u)

44 A fire broke out at Vistra Corp.'s Moss Landing complex in California...

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I think a number of these fires (maybe this one too) where batteries are involved are arson. The fire suppressing system not working raises a red flag. The EV market and a lot of the other "alternative energy" markets have cratered, and the intermediary companies are stuck with whole stockrooms filled with unsellable items.

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 04:39 PM (dIske)

45 Don’t settle yet, Wait for discovery.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at January 17, 2025 04:40 PM (w3u3d)

46 >>- So the soros prosecutors are really USAID prosecutors.
- And the CIA is directly funding the marxist revolution in the USA

Soros has been working with the CIA for years running color revolutions. That's where he made most of his money.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 04:40 PM (LkLld)

47 Tennessee AG just settled with Blackrock over their ESG practices violating their fiduciary responsibilities to their share holders and customers.

More anti-eco-mentalist winning.

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:41 PM (pgwxJ)

48 To be honest, I'm surprised JPMorganChase has backed out of the program. The entire time I was there, it was a shitstorm of wokeness and damn the results it had on the work product, investors and depositors. They simply didn't give two shits about that.

'Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion' is still an item on their main webpage. Until that goes. . . . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2025 04:41 PM (WXNFJ)

49 Free-market economics ALWAYS wins in the long run.

It even conquered Maoist China, which would have been deemed completely impossible starting in 1949 and up through the '80s. Maoist policies were self-defined as the exact antithesis of free-market capitalism.

Ad yet even in that environment capitlaim emerged triumphant.

In the West, some self-restircted garbage investments will always FAIL if people have a choice, Virtue-signaling yourself into bakruptcy cannot compete with the lure of actually makingv money.

Posted by: zombie at January 17, 2025 04:41 PM (pMi6S)

50 >35 Blackrock and any of these financial or public companies have an actual duty recorded in law to act in the clients or shareholders best interests.

Correct. There are a number of pending shareholder lawsuits stating exactly that...ESG policies directly resulted in under performing results or losses. American Airlines and Target are two that come to mind.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 17, 2025 04:41 PM (GTqXr)

51 If CBS demands the terms of the settlement not be disclosed, then it becomes a hush money criminal case right?
Posted by: Stu Podaso
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You mean against Trump, right?

Posted by: Alvin Bragg at January 17, 2025 04:41 PM (Dm8we)

52 I hope this walk away from Net Zero is real. I fear its like DEI, where they (ahem, FBI) publish a statement but then just give it another name and hide it deep in the HR department.

And so here we go. The idea - taught in high schools back in my day - that you needed to trust the corporate model because, at the top, it was all the best and brightest using money you and I should contribute to create profits.

Sure Jan.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:41 PM (E0n90)

53 "We don't know what started this event yet."

The lithium sticks its 2s orbital into the hangar cooch of the oxygen 2p orbital.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 04:42 PM (w7peH)

54 The video of the fire at the battery storage facility was spectacular, made even more impressive by the knowledge that firefighters have no way to even try to put it out. All anyone can do is run!

Imagine an electric car battery fire, X 1,000.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2025 04:42 PM (0fHLt)

55 A fire broke out at Vistra Corp.'s Moss Landing complex in California, one of the world's biggest battery storage facilities, prompting evacuations. Local officials said a fire suppressant system failed.
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Papa Podaso retired from the power plant facility there when it was owned by PGandE, and later on, Duke Energy. Back when it burned good ol' reliable natural gas.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 17, 2025 04:42 PM (fQmeC)

56 Free-market economics ALWAYS wins in the long run.

Show me one time, just in our country, when that has happened.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:42 PM (E0n90)

57 Truth is the most precious thing. That's why we should ration it.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 17, 2025 04:42 PM (utRVu)

58 Trump should dissolve the United Nations and raze the building -- preferably with most of the ambassadores still inside.
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He should announce that the US will no longer participate for the entirety of his term, and that the only votes the US will cast for the Security Council will be to block any action to be taken at all, no matter how "noble" (allegedly) the cause.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:42 PM (azSra)

59 Willowed RE Rowling:
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J.K. Rowling has been married to a man since 2001 and has two kids. I doubt she hates all men.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 17, 2025 04:26 PM (MQJVv)
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Exactly.

She *is* feminist. And she's more consistent with feminism in being trans-exclusionary than other feminists.

That doesn't mean she gets most of her arguments correct. It's still stupid to blame the bulk of men, who punch each other's "man cards" and tease each other about feminine-range behavior that it suddenly become apiece with "masculinity" that wants to "control women's spaces" as in point out "Well, it's still men".

As if it is the responsibility of every normal male to make sure there are 0 men in dresses, who flout male social behavior. Because we could just as easily go back to enforcing "male behavior" with men who play the female role in "sex" as well.

Oh, no! That was wrong. We have to allow the male and female roles closer together--but as we break down that Order, it's still up to Men to make sure no men within the lax standards of social sex role enforcement, who can pay the ever cheaper cost of effeminate behavior NEVER wear dresses to "invade women's spaces"!

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:43 PM (krQz2)

60 Somebody looked up fiduciary in the dictionary.
With photo of Vengeance Trump next to it.

Posted by: DaveA at January 17, 2025 04:43 PM (FhXTo)

61 CNN found guilty of defamation.

https://tinyurl.com/59we878j

Posted by: Paco at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (mADJX)

62 I do not disagree, as a philosophy, that individual freedom to buy and sell would lead to capitalism which would lead to maximum freedom to prosper. Or perish.

Now show me one time in American History where that environment as been in place.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (E0n90)

63 Hail Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (aD39U)

64 Sidenote:

WaPo new tag line.

"Riveting Storytelling for All of America"

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (G0vdT)

65 D-3 and counting...

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (krQz2)

66 Good afternoon good people.
Posted by: Tonypete

Wow, leaving a bunch of us out with that qualification...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (Wb3Uz)

67 Now we're all really going to die from failing to enact the latest leftie demands!
If only there were any one left alive to worry about this...

But we all died from:
Trump's first election
Trump pulling out of the Paris Climate Accords
Trump ending net neutrality
Trump's tax cuts
Trump's Muslim travel ban
Trump responding too much/too little to Covid

I don't know why you zombies keep posting here.
Is it all the brainz?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (fPmNY)

68 Meanwhile how do we get are pissed away fortunes back?

Posted by: DaveA at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (FhXTo)

69 Sidenote:

WaPo new tag line.

"Riveting Storytelling for All of America"

Posted by: WisRich at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (G0vdT)
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"Ripping Yarns and Farts."

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (krQz2)

70 So they used her answer to a completely different question, right? Or did they have to rephrase the same question in words she could understand, then edit out the simplified question? I had thought she finally found a coherent thought after a long ramble, but this is even more egregious.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 04:45 PM (amTrm)

71 Free-market economics ALWAYS wins in the long run.
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Show me one time, just in our country, when that has happened.
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Its a TRAP to stray too far away from the fundamentals of economics. Supply and demand curves accurately predict human behavior, and to magically wish them away because "the other guy is cheating" will have long-term consequences....if the magical wishing is allowed to continue for too long.

With that said, I do agree that some short-term diversions can sometimes incentivize others to behave more properly.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:45 PM (azSra)

72 Between the stuff happening that Ace noted in this post, plus the news on CNN being found guilty, looks like a pretty good day.

Posted by: Paco at January 17, 2025 04:45 PM (mADJX)

73 WaPo new tag line.

"Riveting Storytelling for All of America"

Posted by: WisRich

I read that in a Garrison Keillor Lake Wobegon voice.

Posted by: Miklos did not enjoy it though at January 17, 2025 04:46 PM (xesY+)

74 Soros has been working with the CIA for years running color revolutions. That's where he made most of his money.
Posted by: JackStraw

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I was naive and thought the prosecutor bit was his initiative.
It is harder to get my head around the CIA directly funding the destruction of the USA in this particular way.
(I know they do it in many other ways, but this seems so vile and hard to imagine that anyone up the CoC would want fingerprints on.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, assemble! at January 17, 2025 04:47 PM (0k/qJ)

75 Anybody from back in the day that were big, big pushers of "free trade" and "lower top marginal rates" wanna' admit they were wrong ?

I don't believe I've ever discussed it here but I have been a proponent of both these ideas.

I still believe that free trade is best but I have always recognized that it must be reciprocated. Being the only country with no barriers to foreign trade is like being the only country that disbands it's entire military.

In the matter of top marginal rates, I continue to believe that they should be lower. I don't believe in taxes as punishment even when the wealthy are not my friends. One of the big problems we have is that we've removed so many people from the tax roles but they're still permitted a vote. I believe that we should have a single tax rate and that it should apply from the first dollar on whatever taxation mechanism is used without exception: income/spending/property. If people find the taxes onerous, and I suspect they would, they could pressure their "representatives" to stop shoving money out the door as fast as possible.

If you feel that this provides you a means to say "I told you so", enjoy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 04:47 PM (ExV1e)

76 First CNN, now CBS.

Chances the other networks will figure out what time it is?

0.5%
Posted by: Grayman27 at January 17, 2025 04:29 PM (pgwxJ)

I want them to get down to NPR for not having enough country music songs played. Its NATIONAL public radio, not the same alternative songs from 1970.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (n7h9X)

77 First CNN, now CBS.
Chances the other networks will figure out what time it is?
0.5%
Posted by: Grayman27

Even flatworms turn away from pain. Network news is smarter than a flatworm.

Maybe only 1 or 2 IQ points, but smarter than a flatworm.

Posted by: mikeski at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (DgGvY)

78 It should be pretty clear that all the problems that the AGW (anthropenic global warming) fearmongers warned us about are coming to pass. The thing is though, they are caused by their mitigation policies, and not by the AGW.
Posted by: Gentlemen, assemble! at January 17, 2025 04:35 PM (0k/qJ)

Yup, you know what actually made the Santa Ana fires worse?

The Santa Anas are caused by the difference in Temp between Southern Calif, and the area around Las Vegas. When LA is warmer than Vegas? Santa Anas.

So, there is this little thing called the Heat Island Effect, which raises Temp in large cities (like... oh... LA) by anywhere from 1-7 Degrees F.

As the Santa Ana winds get worse the more the Temp is different? Yeah, the overly large population of the LA Basin, which caused urban sprawl, and more heat Island Effect... made the Santa Anas worse.

Aint got a damn thing to do with CO2 though... let alone man made CO2.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (QAkQ3)

79 Senator Gilligan is on board too.

Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.
This is an incredible moment for reproductive freedom, and a historic day for equality – especially with Americans facing the further degradation of reproductive freedom as the incoming administration takes power.
Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex. I know they will have ample support as they seek justice, and I promise to stand by their side in this fight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (L/fGl)

80 Between the stuff happening that Ace noted in this post, plus the news on CNN being found guilty, looks like a pretty good day.
Posted by: Paco

That, and the newly cracked handle of Bourbon, yes it is.

Posted by: Miklos notes that the Drinking Lamp is LIT at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (xesY+)

81 "Riveting Storytelling for All of America"

Oh yeah? What about the Antistoryite Americans? You got stories for them?

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (w7peH)

82 BREAKING: CNN HAS SETTLED WITH THE PLAINTIFF
4:08 PM · Jan 17, 2025
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Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (t/2Uw)

83 Or move the UN to Greenland.

Posted by: Redenzo at January 17, 2025 04:49 PM (NleoP)

84 Gillibrand is an Insurrectionist! Arrest HER!!

Posted by: runner at January 17, 2025 04:49 PM (g47mK)

85 Like an... oligarch, almost?
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Let us remember, that the President who got elected during a year where the CEO of the biggest social platform spent $400 million to "secure the election" against that president's opponent--that President warned US about "Technological Oligarchs".

It's like somebody challenges Dems "What's the biggest irony you can produce?"

And they kill it every time.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:49 PM (krQz2)

86 Kirsten is just mad that Pam Bondi is the same age and looks 30 years younger than her....

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 04:49 PM (KQk9m)

87 I'm finally turning!

Posted by: The Worm at January 17, 2025 04:49 PM (MDua2)

88 Seems to be a retreat from wokeness but they will regroup and come back

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2025 04:49 PM (fwDg9)

89 Settlement solely for the punitive damages

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 04:50 PM (t/2Uw)

90 Investors, seeing a negative return on "woke" (DEI, ESG, etc.) investment strategies, for years, are probably a bit pissed off that they're seeing negative returns... aka "losses."

It's one thing to, say, invest in REI because you're an outdoorsy type of person vs. investing in it because you're woke. In both instances you expect to make money. Or you wouldn't be investing in it in the first place... woke or not.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 17, 2025 04:50 PM (Q4IgG)

91 A slew of other financial services had left NZAM prior to BlackRock's Thursday exit, including Goldman Sachs Group, Wells Fargo & Co., Citigroup, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase & Co.

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It's good that this scam is getting broken up.

But that lineup - BlackRock, Goldman, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley, JPMC - are the real problem. They'll just throw their enormous influence behind the next ruling class scam.

That are integral. The DC cartel has to get broken up first. But these banks have to be next - or they'll just juice up the next cartel.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 17, 2025 04:50 PM (BI5O2)

92
Every rack of batteries at the facility has a fire suppressant system fed by an on-site system, and this system failed, Chief Joel Mendoza with the North County Fire District, said during a press briefing Friday.

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There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (g3j/k)

93 reproductive freedom
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This Orwellian butchering of the English language has to be confronted. When they say "reproductive freedom", they aren't talking about "reproduction" at all--they mean the right to kill the unborn.

When they say "grooming gangs", they mean "rape gangs".

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (azSra)

94 Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:45 PM (azSra)

Problem is that we have a regulated Economy, not a free Economy.

Look around you right now, and I'll bet you don't see one single thing that does not have some type of Government regulation on it. Even mining, and farming... heavily regulated now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (QAkQ3)

95 Suspend the Lithium battery shelves over a pool with lead bolts.

fire, sploosh, bubbles.

Posted by: DaveA at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (FhXTo)

96 Good afternoon good people.
Posted by: Tonypete

Wow, leaving a bunch of us out with that qualification...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 17, 2025 04:44 PM (Wb3Uz)

I've seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I'm on my way.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (n7h9X)

97 Anybody from back in the day that were big, big pushers of "free trade" and "lower top marginal rates" wanna' admit they were wrong ?

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:38 PM (E0n90)
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What did you tell us?

I have been a big proponent of free trade, because the government should be able to show compelling interest to intervene.

What do I have to admit I was wrong about?

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:52 PM (krQz2)

98 WaPo new tag line.

"Riveting Storytelling for All of America"

Posted by: WisRich

I read that in a Garrison Keillor Lake Wobegon voice.
Posted by: Miklos did not enjoy it though at January 17, 2025 04:46 PM

--

Ribald Tales To Startle the Horses

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 04:52 PM (amTrm)

99 The death of various components of the media and DEI, Inc. warms the cockles of my heart.

Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 04:52 PM (wtvvX)

100 reproductive freedom
=====
This Orwellian butchering of the English language has to be confronted. When they say "reproductive freedom", they aren't talking about "reproduction" at all--they mean the right to kill the unborn.

When they say "grooming gangs", they mean "rape gangs".
Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (azSra)

and the born too. Birth is just a number.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (n7h9X)

101 Good afternoon good people.
Posted by: Tonypete

Wow, leaving a bunch of us out with that qualification...

It bothered me once upon a time, but you get used to it after a while.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (lUFok)

102 Suspend the Lithium battery shelves over a pool with lead bolts.

fire, sploosh, bubbles.
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It's the damn shelves again, isn't it?

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (azSra)

103 That are integral. The DC cartel has to get broken up first. But these banks have to be next - or they'll just juice up the next cartel.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Most...Excellent

*temples fingers*

Posted by: The Miklos Cartel at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (xesY+)

104 Its a TRAP to stray too far away from the fundamentals of economics.

Sure. Unless you're on the march to the camps. In which case, none of the rules of economics apply.

That's the problem. This economy is not free. Economics, as expressed all the way back to Adam Smith, assume every consumer is maximally free to do "something".

Until the situation is more free ? Its not a "trap" to assume the rules of economics, as you understand them, are wrong. It's just common sense to assume they don't apply - because the circumstances don't apply.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (E0n90)

105 "There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning."

Spray them with molten burning magnesium. Maybe the whole shebang will burn faster, go out sooner.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (w7peH)

106 Network news is smarter than a flatworm.

I knew Trump was going to win the election. -- Mike the Flatworm

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (ExV1e)

107 >>I was naive and thought the prosecutor bit was his initiative.
It is harder to get my head around the CIA directly funding the destruction of the USA in this particular way.

Nobody understood the scope of what the CIA has been doing until recently. Hell, I'm sure there's a lot we still don't know.

Ultimately, the whole censorship and narrative machine is run by the CIA.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (LkLld)

108 "We don't know what started this event yet."

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Old & Busted: "We may never know the motive of the Jihadi fire-bomber."

New Hotness: "We may never know the cause of the EV Battery fire-bombs."

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (2q1Vc)

109 I'm in wait and see mode on the retreat of woke. My employer was one that Mr. Starbuck had claimed victory for on ending DEI departments. And the next week our new CEO assured us employees that diversity wasn't going away, it was just being distributed amongst the rest of HR.

Posted by: She Hobbit at January 17, 2025 04:54 PM (ftFVW)

110 When they say "grooming gangs", they mean "rape gangs".
Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (azSra)
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It wouldn't be so bad if it were a bunch of guys who want to brush down horses.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:54 PM (krQz2)

111 Are you tired of the winning yet?

Posted by: Because I'm not at January 17, 2025 04:54 PM (dg+HA)

112 "Recent developments in the U.S. and different regulatory and client expectations in investors' respective jurisdictions have led to NZAM launching a review

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Who knew that elections have consequences?

Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 04:54 PM (unUNN)

113 John Nolte at Breitbart had a funny line about the CNN guilty verdict: "What this means is that I will be using the term 'Convicted Liar' to describe CNN and Jake Tapper until the end of time."

Posted by: Paco at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (mADJX)

114 Where is all the money paid by corporations for carbon credits?
OR
Where are all the trees planted to off set the carbon footprints?

Askin for a friend.

-Joe Six Pack

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (jQ+5q)

115 92
Every rack of batteries at the facility has a fire suppressant system fed by an on-site system, and this system failed, Chief Joel Mendoza with the North County Fire District, said during a press briefing Friday.

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There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (g3j/k)

I'm wondering if they pump Nitrogen or CO2 to smother the fire?? Would probably take quite a bit unless the batteries were compartmentalized in small volumes...

Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (wtvvX)

116 Senator Gilligan is on board too.

Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.
This is an incredible moment for reproductive freedom, and a historic day for equality – especially with Americans facing the further degradation of reproductive freedom as the incoming administration takes power.
Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex. I know they will have ample support as they seek justice, and I promise to stand by their side in this fight.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM (L/fGl)

Senator Gillibrand has been arrested by the Selective Service for not registering for the draft since 1982.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (n7h9X)

117 Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex.

Show me one single state that permits men more freedom to abort their babies than women.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (ExV1e)

118 So not tired of all the winning.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (kgE5c)

119 There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

You can't spray vacuum, so this checks out.

Posted by: mikeski at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (DgGvY)

120
I've seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I'm on my way.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (n7h9X)
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Don't get so close to the edge.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (krQz2)

121 Bondi and Gillibrand are the same age?!?!? Was Gillibrand born on February 29? Cuz otherwise I just don't see how that's possible.

Posted by: Wally at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (ZEuC7)

122 The DEI programs are also in violation of existing civil rights and EO laws. You cannot promote or hire on the basis of sex, gender or race. Several companies have already been successfully sued.

Again, these are not obscure statutes. They are settled and preeminent law. Only the corrupt DoJ and federal agencies along with Mr Poopypants have kept the laws from being enforced. That’s over and the litigation will be flowing.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (iiQg8)

123 Oh you mean Larry Fink, who's been using financial power to pressure companies and entire nations to follow the Global Socialist Movement's line?

Like an... oligarch, almost?

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I'm surprised he didn't get a medal from Biden.

Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (unUNN)

124 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.

Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex. I know they will have ample support as they seek justice, and I promise to stand by their side in this fight.
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Wait, you're a...(checks notes)...Senator...and you don't understand the amendment ratification process? And so you're going to just willy-nilly charge ahead "stand by their side" tilting at windmills?

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (azSra)

125 I have been a big proponent of free trade, because the government should be able to show compelling interest to intervene.

Free Trade with a society that, en masse, is only worth half your collective wealth ?

What's the end game. That society will have more wealth. You'll have less - but some cheap goods along the way. Your kids will be the ones that suffer. That's, truly, velocity of currency.

A long term that just states "it takes a bit - transfer of wealth isn't instant".

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (E0n90)

126 Senator Gillibrand has been arrested by the Selective Service for not registering for the draft since 1982.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (n7h9X)
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Until she started crying her way out of it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (krQz2)

127 There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

_________

Store them in a vacuum sealed container?

Posted by: Alvin Bragg at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (Dm8we)

128 I'm wondering if they pump Nitrogen or CO2 to smother the fire?? Would probably take quite a bit unless the batteries were compartmentalized in small volumes...
Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (wtvvX)

Halon has been the agent of choice for large Data Center fires for years... but Halon is reallllly shitty stuff.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (QAkQ3)

129 Network news is smarter than a flatworm.

I knew Trump was going to win the election. -- Mike the Flatworm
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 04:53 PM (ExV1e)

You can cut a flatworm in half and it remembers all it knew. Lets try that with Jake Tapper.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (n7h9X)

130
is that Paulie kid still outside, kicking the dirt and looking forlorn because we won't take him back?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (xG4kz)

131 105 "There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning."

Oh, yeah?
*unzips the fly on his Carhartt overalls*

Posted by: Your redneck neighbor down the street at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (dg+HA)

132 NZAM will also remove the commitment statement and list of NZAM signatories from its website, as well as their targets and related case studies, pending the outcome of the review."

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I call that tampering with evidence.

Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (unUNN)

133 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.
This is an incredible moment for reproductive freedom, and a historic day for equality – especially with Americans facing the further degradation of reproductive freedom as the incoming administration takes power.
Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex. I know they will have ample support as they seek justice, and I promise to stand by their side in this fight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM

I called this two hours ago.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (Rcnd3)

134 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution,
______________

Uh ... Giglibrand, the Equal Rights Amendment was never ratified, as far as I know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (YqDXo)

135 Senator Gillibrand has been arrested by the Selective Service for not registering for the draft since 1982.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (n7h9X)
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Until she started crying her way out of it.
Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (krQz2)

THERES NO CRYING IN BASIC

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (n7h9X)

136 80 That, and the newly cracked handle of Bourbon, yes it is.- Miklos

You're one up on me, there.

Although I do have a Mason jar of Apple Pie whiskey, given to me by a friend whose family distills the stuff in the Carolina hill country (and it's tax free!)

Posted by: Paco at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (mADJX)

137 128 I'm wondering if they pump Nitrogen or CO2 to smother the fire?? Would probably take quite a bit unless the batteries were compartmentalized in small volumes...
Posted by: Tex Lovra at January 17, 2025 04:55 PM (wtvvX)

Halon has been the agent of choice for large Data Center fires for years... but Halon is reallllly shitty stuff.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (QAkQ3)

OH, see I'm behind the times... can't use an anti greenhouse gas to put out a fire that is bad for the environment... how silly of me.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:59 PM (QAkQ3)

138 Related Breaking News --

January 17, 2025
U.S. Federal Reserve Board announces it has withdrawn from the Network of Central Banks and Supervisors for Greening the Financial System (NGFS)

For release at 1:30 p.m. EST

The Federal Reserve Board on Friday announced it has withdrawn from the Network of Central Banks and Supervisors for Greening the Financial System (NGFS).

While the Board has appreciated the engagement with the NGFS and its members, the work of the NGFS has increasingly broadened in scope, covering a wider range of issues that are outside of the Board's statutory mandate.

Posted by: Gref at January 17, 2025 04:59 PM (aBgBM)

139 I've seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I'm on my way.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 04:51 PM (n7h9X)
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Don't get so close to the edge.

I second that. If anything happened we'd miss your wonderous stories.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 04:59 PM (lUFok)

140 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.

Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex. I know they will have ample support as they seek justice, and I promise to stand by their side in this fight.
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Wait, you're a...(checks notes)...Senator...and you don't understand the amendment ratification process? And so you're going to just willy-nilly charge ahead "stand by their side" tilting at windmills?
Posted by: Crusader

Men thinking with their dicks >>> Women thinking with their vajayjays

Posted by: mikeski at January 17, 2025 04:59 PM (DgGvY)

141 There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.
Posted by: Semi-Literate
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They are put out by cooling. That means a lot of water, and in deep where it can cool the parts that are burning, not just on the surface.

So a fire suppression can work but only if it works quickly before the heat builds up. I don't know this facility, but the ones Tesla put in Australia were gapped so each module could burn without affecting it's neighbors. (in fact, I think Tesla has had fires where they lost only one module without too much drama.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, assemble! at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (0k/qJ)

142 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM

I called this two hours ago.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (Rcnd3)

So, they are trying to subvert the actual Constitution of the US... I believe that is called Treason?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (QAkQ3)

143 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.

Literally dumber than a box of rocks.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (lUFok)

144 I prefer the Busytown worm to flat worms. So cute driving his apple car.

Posted by: She Hobbit at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (ftFVW)

145 CNN found guilty of defamation.

https://tinyurl.com/59we878j
Posted by: Paco

STAND BACK EVERYONE!! I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THIS SHADENBONER WILL GET!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (WXNFJ)

146 While the Board has appreciated the engagement with the NGFS and its members, the work of the NGFS has increasingly broadened in scope, covering a wider range of issues that are outside of the Board's statutory mandate.
Posted by: Gref

I question the timing.

Posted by: The Miklos Cartel has Questions at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (xesY+)

147 Halon has been the agent of choice for large Data Center fires for years... but Halon is reallllly shitty stuff.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (QAkQ3)

I'd assume that it's illegal in Cali.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (ExV1e)

148 I have been a big proponent of free trade, because the government should be able to show compelling interest to intervene.

Free Trade with a society that, en masse, is only worth half your collective wealth ?

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 04:56 PM (E0n90)
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I'm not a purist and I'm not laissez faire.

But I would look long and hard at the trade-off the government intervening just because some guy has "too much" of the wealth.

The people can always fix that by not buying that brand. They have to have the will.

Government action for a lack of will is not a good tradeoff.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (krQz2)

149 Hey. We're sitting right here.

Posted by: A box of rocks at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (dg+HA)

150 I'm in wait and see mode on the retreat of woke. My employer was one that Mr. Starbuck had claimed victory for on ending DEI departments. And the next week our new CEO assured us employees that diversity wasn't going away, it was just being distributed amongst the rest of HR.
Posted by: She Hobbit at January 17, 2025 04:54 PM (ftFVW)
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The problem is that HR people actually know how to onboard and managed leave, sick benefits, etc.

DEI people dono't know how to do anything other than celebrate gayness and cry about stuff.

Having them now deal with actual company-liability-creating situations will hurt them a lot down the road.

"What do you mean I can't just throw white male applications away?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (ZOv7s)

151 9 I don't believe they are actually getting rid of the DIE. I suspect they are making the motions and acting like they are getting rid of this garbage just because Trump won. If a democrat wins in 2028 they will just pull the curtains off of the furniture and restart everything.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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Lawsuits for discrimination will eventually end the practice. Eventually the corporate counsels and risk assessors get involved. George Floyd is dead and BLM is following suit.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (ctrM5)

152 "They are put out by cooling. That means a lot of water, and in deep where it can cool the parts that are burning, not just on the surface."

Oooh, try LOX. It's colder, so it'll work faster.

Posted by: Knock gp A Kiss at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (w7peH)

153 >>Halon has been the agent of choice for large Data Center fires for years... but Halon is reallllly shitty stuff.

It's also now illegal.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (LkLld)

154 There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

_________

Store them in a vacuum sealed container?
Posted by: Alvin Bragg at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (Dm8we)

'burning' lithium isn't necessarily combining with oxygen, its combining with anything that will take its unwanted extra electron. The even more reactive sodium and potassium will burn if exposed to water or humidity in the air.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (n7h9X)

155 CNN found guilty of defamation.

https://tinyurl.com/59we878j
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Were they crushed?

Tell me that they were crushed.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

156 I remember when Gillibrand was cute. Of course, I also remember when Linda Ronstadt was cute. Emmylou Harris. You get it.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (E0n90)

157 with its vice-chair Philipp Hildebrand saying the firm's involvement in the environmental coalition "caused confusion regarding BlackRock's practices and subjected us to legal inquiries from various public officials."

But mostly the legal inquiries, which from what I've been reading elsewhere have been along the lines of the SEC asking about failing the fiduciary duty towards investors, and they're VERY unhappy about that because it makes what they're doing to the investors outright fraud.

Burn BlackRock, BURN.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (O7YUW)

158 While the Board has appreciated the engagement with the NGFS and its members, the work of the NGFS has increasingly broadened in scope, covering a wider range of issues that are outside of the Board's statutory mandate.
Posted by: Gref at January 17, 2025 04:59 PM (aBgBM)

Funny how all these boards were OK with doing illegal shit as long as Biden was in office.... but as soon as Trump got elected... are suddenly changing course BEFORE lawsuits and charges can be filed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (QAkQ3)

159 " CBS is considering settling the $10 billion lawsuit by President Trump for election interference"

TRUMP!!! curse!

Posted by: fd at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (vFG9F)

160 Literally dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Maisie Hirono or Patty Murray?

VOTE NOW

Posted by: Clickbait by Miklos at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (xesY+)

161 There is nothing that can be sprayed on burning lithium ion batteries that will stop them from burning.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

On the other hand, you could spray the area with FOOF and ClF3. Then the burning lithium won't seem so bad compared to the burning concrete and the clouds of hydrochloric and hydrofluoric acid.

Posted by: mikeski at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (DgGvY)

162 Literally dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (lUFok)
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She's telling people to file lawsuits on the basis of an unratified amendment. She really hates her followers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (ZOv7s)

163 Halon has been the agent of choice for large Data Center fires for years... but Halon is reallllly shitty stuff.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 04:57 PM (QAkQ3)

I'd assume that it's illegal in Cali.

I don't remember if halon is an ozone destroyer or greenhouse gas, but it's being phased out and replaced with something called FM-200.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (lUFok)

164 Have they found the plane yet?

Posted by: Evergreen at January 17, 2025 05:03 PM (dg+HA)

165 The problem is that HR people actually know how to onboard and managed leave, sick benefits, etc.

DEI people dono't know how to do anything other than celebrate gayness and cry about stuff.

Having them now deal with actual company-liability-creating situations will hurt them a lot down the road.

"What do you mean I can't just throw white male applications away?"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:01 PM (ZOv7s)

you should report them to the Equal Opportunity Board since discrimination is illegal.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:03 PM (n7h9X)

166 But mostly the legal inquiries, which from what I've been reading elsewhere have been along the lines of the SEC asking about failing the fiduciary duty towards investors, and they're VERY unhappy about that because it makes what they're doing to the investors outright fraud.

Burn BlackRock, BURN.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (O7YUW)
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Wait till they find out how much the CEOs profited from these losing bets.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:03 PM (ZOv7s)

167 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.

Literally dumber than a box of rocks.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (lUFok)
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Definitely a DC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:03 PM (YqDXo)

168 I remember when Gillibrand was cute. Of course, I also remember when Linda Ronstadt was cute. Emmylou Harris. You get it.
Posted by: What Willl We Do

Now that Theda Bara....

Posted by: Miklos Clampett at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (xesY+)

169 The people can always fix that by not buying that brand. They have to have the will.

Tell me about it, while you refuse to buy health insurance.

Dude - I get it - you want to argue open market, capitalism ideas. We don't live in that country.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (E0n90)

170 I don't remember if halon is an ozone destroyer or greenhouse gas, but it's being phased out and replaced with something called FM-200.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (lUFok)

Probably Halon in a funny hat and glasses.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (n7h9X)

171 I have been a big proponent of free trade, because the government should be able to show compelling interest to intervene.

What do I have to admit I was wrong about?
Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 04:52 PM (krQz2)

Nothing, on the face of it.

The question always boils down to compelling interest.

French people make better cheese than Americans do. But we make a whole shitload more of it.

My little girl loves cheese. For now, I shovel a lot of relatively low-quality American cheddar down that greedy gullet. Later, when she's a refined lady, I'll buy French cheeses for her.

That's the beauty of free trade.

It's not about offshoring our industrial base to our enemies and putting millions of our people out of work.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (BI5O2)

172 @61/Paco: "CNN found guilty of defamation."

From the article:

"Convicted News Network"

Yes. This has made my Friday.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (O7YUW)

173 burning' lithium isn't necessarily combining with oxygen, its combining with anything that will take its unwanted extra electron. The even more reactive sodium and potassium will burn if exposed to water or humidity in the air.
Posted by: Oldcat
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So if they're in a vacuum, what would take the unwanted extra electron?

Posted by: Alvin Bragg at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (Dm8we)

174
the firm's involvement in the environmental coalition "caused confusion regarding BlackRock's practices

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No, it caused clarity.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (g6sX8)

175 Ribald Tales To Startle the Horses
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer
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Heh, another way to rename Boccaccio's Decameron or the Miller's Tale of Chaucer.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (ctrM5)

176 President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.
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This just in: President Trump has canceled the 19th Amendment, effective immediately.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

177 She's telling people to file lawsuits on the basis of an unratified amendment. She really hates her followers.

Probably the only thing she and I would agree on, then.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (lUFok)

178 Any state that gets sued by some dumbass listening to Gillibrand should, in turn, sue her for legal fees. As a Senator, she shouldn't be spouting off about matters of governance since she obviously doesn't understand them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (ExV1e)

179 "Baseball, Hot Dogs, Apple Pie Whiskey, and Chevrolet ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (2q1Vc)

180
On the other hand, you could spray the area with FOOF and ClF3.

ChemJeff is back!

What the everloving fook were you referring to?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (xG4kz)

181 167 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.

Literally dumber than a box of rocks.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (lUFok)

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Keep your eyes open. This is a "Squirrel" story meant to divert. It's Friday, the day they drop the real bombs late in the afternoon. What's the real item they don't want you looking at to closely?

Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)

182 Who moved my cheese?

Posted by: It was a book at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (dg+HA)

183 Yup, that's a legit post from @SenGillibrand.

I...
I...
I...

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (krQz2)

184 >>I don't remember if halon is an ozone destroyer or greenhouse gas, but it's being phased out and replaced with something called FM-200.

Ozone. Halon started being phased out with the adoption of the Montreal Protocol signed back in 1987. Some systems that were in use could still get refills but it's illegal for new installations across the US and most of the world.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (LkLld)

185 you should report them to the Equal Opportunity Board since discrimination is illegal.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:03 PM (n7h9X)
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That's what I'm saying - DEI people are monumentally stupid, completely unself-aware, and will write all manner of incriminating memos to each other about how smart they are in subverting the system by punishing white people.

Hope they enjoy the settlements to come.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:06 PM (ZOv7s)

186 174
the firm's involvement in the environmental coalition "caused confusion regarding BlackRock's practices

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No, it caused clarity.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone

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Captain Subtext says "We could not hide it anymore and investors and incoming government are pissed off about it."

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:06 PM (ctrM5)

187 176 President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.
______________

This just in: President Trump has canceled the 19th Amendment, effective immediately.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

Under Biden rules, the Balanced Budget Amendment is now part of the Constitution.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 17, 2025 05:06 PM (QAkQ3)

188 I remember when Gillibrand was cute. Of course, I also remember when Linda Ronstadt was cute. Emmylou Harris. You get it.
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (E0n90)

Jenny Lind....

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:06 PM (n7h9X)

189
Gillibrand!

Be better, New York. Be better.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:06 PM (xG4kz)

190 Halon has been the agent of choice for large Data Center fires for years... but Halon is reallllly shitty stuff.
Posted by: Romeo13

Every machine room in every Datacenter I have ever worked at had at least an eight page flowchart describing all the steps to be taken before we vacated the room. The HALON system automatically released the gas usually within 45 seconds after the fire alarm was triggered.

Given that HALON displaces all the O2 in the space and all the required steps to be performed before evacuating the space was about 15 minutes, we pretty much ignored that flowchart.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 17, 2025 05:06 PM (WXNFJ)

191 NZAM = nazi American?
That's unfortunate abbreviating. Do better.

Posted by: torabora at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (Ar52Y)

192 I love how they keep stressing " this happened DECADES ago you guys, they are only looking into because of Elon Musk"....

https://instapundit.com/696655/

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (KQk9m)

193 Literally dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Maisie Hirono or Patty Murray?

VOTE NOW

Posted by: Clickbait by Miklos at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (xesY+)
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It's the stupidity version of Ali v. Frazier.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (YqDXo)

194 Hope they enjoy the settlements to come.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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O/T, If Hegseth gets his way, you may get to rejoin Uncle Sam's military or perhaps some sort of monetary payment instead.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (ctrM5)

195 Literally dumber than a box of rocks.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at January 17, 2025 05:00 PM (lUFok)
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For all X is "dumber than a box of rocks".

Kirsten Gillibrand < X

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (krQz2)

196 To me the Grooming gangs are slavery owners

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (fwDg9)

197 Keep your eyes open. This is a "Squirrel" story meant to divert. It's Friday, the day they drop the real bombs late in the afternoon. What's the real item they don't want you looking at to closely?
Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)
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If Biden's people could play four-dimensional chess, he wouldn't have been forced off the ballot by an intern with the X password.

Right now it's YOLO hour in the White House.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (ZOv7s)

198 Dude - I get it - you want to argue open market, capitalism ideas. We don't live in that country.
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (E0n90)

And so your point is that the system we have - a not open market - which has been completely fucked by the idiots regulating it proves that a regulated market is better than an actual open one?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (ExV1e)

199 Do Democrats really want the president to have the power to change the Constitution with a Tweet with Crazy Donnie scheduled to take office in 2 days?

That seems shortsighted.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (LkLld)

200 Pedophiles, wokesters, and propagandists are dropping like flies.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (i24o9)

201 Like shit, CNN has settled.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (krQz2)

202
Keep your eyes open. This is a "Squirrel" story meant to divert. It's Friday, the day they drop the real bombs late in the afternoon. What's the real item they don't want you looking at to closely?
Posted by: Orso

J'Blowme's Big, Fantastic Bag o' Pardons!

Go ahead, pardon 'em.

That just puts those receiving pardons on the fast track to their waiting lampposts.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 17, 2025 05:09 PM (xG4kz)

203 >>>BREAKING: CBS is considering settling the $10 billion lawsuit by President Trump for election interference

But why shouldn't PDT be awarded the $10 billion?

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:09 PM (VnUSN)

204 This kind of thing only works because CEOs are like most people: great at what they are good at, but dumb in most other areas. Combine that with a sheep mentality in many businesses, and you get guys going along with dumb crap because they don't understand it and everyone else is doing it.

But here's the good side: once they stop, they don't do it again, any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)

205 Keep your eyes open. This is a "Squirrel" story meant to divert. It's Friday, the day they drop the real bombs late in the afternoon. What's the real item they don't want you looking at to closely?
Posted by: Orson at January 17, 2025 05:05 PM (dIske)

Preparations to disrupt the inauguration?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (ExV1e)

206 Where are all the trees planted to off set the carbon footprints?

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Los Angeles hills?

Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (unUNN)

207 Meanwhile the Germans are flipping out because the "far right" is going to win the elections next month ("far right" ofc being anti immigration). They will not be permitted to win.

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (KQk9m)

208 O/T, If Hegseth gets his way, you may get to rejoin Uncle Sam's military or perhaps some sort of monetary payment instead.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (ctrM5)
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Thank you for thinking of me. Yes, this is on my mind as well and I smiled broadly when he repeated his pledge at his hearing.

I do hope they offer an alternative to returning to the colors, because I would rather not do PT tests again. Wife is strongly opposed. I guess we'll see.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (ZOv7s)

209 People miss this extraordinary thing:

Blackrock wasn't investing THEIR money in ESG.

They were investing YOUR money in ESG. Without your knowledge or permissions.

Not only that, but they were also pressuring other companies to invest in ESG, using their financial power.

Now, this is all, get this, ILLEGAL.

Blackrock is fiduciary. That means they are required by law to invest in the thing that gives their clients (YOU) the best possible return on investment. If investing in an oil company yields a better return than investing in a solar company, they are required, by law, to get the higher return.

In other words, they are not empowered to make these decisions. That is why they are backing off - there is a good chance the Trump justice department sues their silly asses for billions and tosses people in jail if they continue.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (nLFEI)

210 Wait till they find out how much the CEOs profited from these losing bets.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

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This is the problem right here.
They have all gamed the system such that stock prices go up even after failure, and even if they do not go up, their bonuses and cash-outs do.

Our whole economy is run for short term benefit of certain people. They all have a day-trader mentality of riding the wave, even if it is destroying the country. I saw it in many ways with the stock manipulations in the CA tech sector where obviously bad operational decisions were made because the accounting was such that it made the quarterly numbers look better even though it was bad for the company. Better numbers=bigger bonus. Exec staff does not care since they get bigger bonuses too, and they all plan to cash out before the fall.

Posted by: Gentlemen, assemble! at January 17, 2025 05:11 PM (0k/qJ)

211 And so your point is that the system we have - a not open market - which has been completely fucked by the idiots regulating it proves that a regulated market is better than an actual open one?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:07 PM (ExV1e)

My point is that arguing shit from a "free market" perspective is dumb. And purposely dumb. But its the kind of thing certain folks of either a certain age or certain demographic insist on doing.

I scream - put all that useless shit away. Because we don't live in a free market, we don't live in capitalism. We live in a socialist system a couple decades, at most, shy of 1940s Germany.

You don't get from where we are, to where we'd like to go, with purely Free Market solutions. You sure as shit don't get there with Free International Trade. Or even bitching in the streets over Top Marginal Rates.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:11 PM (E0n90)

212 Do Democrats really want the president to have the power to change the Constitution with a Tweet with Crazy Donnie scheduled to take office in 2 days?
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They're amazingly stupid, so they probably have not thought of this.

See, also, the Dems nuking the Senate filibuster for judicial appointments.

"Oh, jeez, I wish we hadn't done that" said while looking at the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:11 PM (YqDXo)

213 Unfortunately Schoolhouse Rock did a piece on how a bill becomes a law. They don't seem to have one on how an Amendment Proposal becomes a Constitutional Amendment.

Somebody could send that to Gillibrand.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:12 PM (krQz2)

214 201 CNN has settled.
Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (krQz2)

CNN settles with US Navy veteran after $5 million defamation verdict (Reuters)

The six-person jury decided CNN had to pay damages totaling $5 million. The settlement will avert a second phase of the trial that would have determined any punitive damages. The verdict followed a two-week trial in Panama City, Florida, state court. ... Circuit Judge William Henry did not provide details of the deal in announcing the settlement in open court.

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:12 PM (VnUSN)

215
What's the real item they don't want you looking at to closely?
Posted by: Orson

Joe's new Bill of Positive Rights!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2025 05:12 PM (63Dwl)

216 This kind of thing only works because CEOs are like most people: great at what they are good at, but dumb in most other areas. Combine that with a sheep mentality in many businesses, and you get guys going along with dumb crap because they don't understand it and everyone else is doing it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)
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I've literally heard a CEO claim that "we" had to do something because everyone else was doing it.

Great leadership in action.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:12 PM (YqDXo)

217 Government action for a lack of will is not a good tradeoff.
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I wish a rich Republican donor would commission a monument that includes just those words and donate it during the Trump administration so that it could be placed alongside the other historic monuments in the DC area.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 05:13 PM (azSra)

218 Meanwhile the Germans are flipping out because the "far right" is going to win the elections next month ("far right" ofc being anti immigration). They will not be permitted to win.
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (KQk9m)
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Are they outright in front place? Last I saw they were likely to finish 2nd, and become the Official Opposition, which would be a nightmare for the establishment.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:13 PM (ZOv7s)

219
This Biden unilaterally declaring the ERA the law of the land in violation to the Constitution still bugs me,
mainly for this reason.

Are there no people in authority who can stand up and say,

"Look, it's unfortunate that President Biden his so senile that he no longer knows or understands the law. His unilateral declaration of the ERA as law has no validity and is not law. To declare it so is in fact a violation of our constitutional law.

President Biden can declare whatever senile and/or insane things he wishes, but I can promise you that it will have no, that is zero, effect as law or in court beginning on Monday."

Is that so hard to say?

No, it is not. Get on it a-holes!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 17, 2025 05:13 PM (iJfKG)

220 Unfortunately Schoolhouse Rock did a piece on how a bill becomes a law. They don't seem to have one on how an Amendment Proposal becomes a Constitutional Amendment.

Somebody could send that to Gillibrand.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:12 PM (krQz2)
________________

Send her a comic book on how all this works.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:14 PM (YqDXo)

221 Unwanted Electron would be a good name for Goth Emo band.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at January 17, 2025 05:14 PM (V362x)

222 They are up enough that the German establishment is shitting themselves and setting their hair on fire

https://youtu.be/tq-5YkH_5hg?si=6TjdZWqw_IIpvPNH

Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 05:15 PM (KQk9m)

223 204 ... like most people: great at what they are good at, but dumb in most other areas
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:09 PM (2VST1)

Bears repeating.

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:15 PM (VnUSN)

224 133 Kirsten Gillibrand
@SenGillibrand
President Biden just declared that the Equal Rights Amendment is now a valid part of the Constitution, and should be considered the law of the land.
This is an incredible moment for reproductive freedom, and a historic day for equality – especially with Americans facing the further degradation of reproductive freedom as the incoming administration takes power.
Now, women living in states with restrictions on their reproductive freedoms can – and should – file suits to overturn these unconstitutional laws that discriminate on the basis of sex. I know they will have ample support as they seek justice, and I promise to stand by their side in this fight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 17, 2025 04:48 PM

I called this two hours ago.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 17, 2025 04:58 PM (Rcnd3)

It's an op to force Trump's DoJ to defend the position that the ERA (it makes women real persons!) has not been ratified. And to force the (illegitimate, ultra-conservative!) SCOTUS to shut-down this foolishness after an Hawaiian Fed Judge and the 9th Circuit rule the ERA is in fact, ratified.

Posted by: Gref at January 17, 2025 05:15 PM (aBgBM)

225 I suspect Young was the reason the case settled now. Up til now he had refused to settle because he wanted a public acknowledgement of what CNN had done to him. Now that he’s got there, I imagine he just said “sure, give me the money, we’re done here.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2025 05:15 PM (0fHLt)

226 This Biden unilaterally declaring the ERA the law of the land in violation to the Constitution still bugs me,
mainly for this reason.

Are there no people in authority who can stand up and say,

"Look, it's unfortunate that President Biden his so senile that he no longer knows or understands the law. His unilateral declaration of the ERA as law has no validity and is not law. To declare it so is in fact a violation of our constitutional law.
____________________

You see, this is why when the look for intelligent life they point the telescopes out into space, because God knows there's no intelligent life here.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:16 PM (YqDXo)

227 160 Literally dumber than a box of rocks.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Maisie Hirono or Patty Murray?

VOTE NOW

Posted by: Clickbait by Miklos at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (xesY+)

Having once been a resident of Washington, I have to vote Patty Murray, but Maisie Hirono is in a category of stupid all her own.

Posted by: Farquad at January 17, 2025 05:16 PM (CFMhl)

228 And so your point is that the system we have - a not open market - which has been completely fucked by the idiots regulating it proves that a regulated market is better than an actual open one?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Depends on the case and facts. Generalizations in international economics usually come a cropper because economically optimal decision making rests on trust between countries. There is no such thing--one can trust individuals but countries cannot trust other countries because incentives are different between individuals and those of the state. Its also why international law is an oxymoron and mainly power arguments disguised in legalese.

Tariffs got a bad name in the late 1890's-1900's because it eventually became a source of political meddling in Congress for particularistic interests. They actually overhauled and fixed tariff law by the 1920's and we operate under that framework today. It is just not been used much.

Then GATT and WTO got glomped on top of it and made a mess of international trade in that it gave incentive to ask forgiveness rather than permission.

Trade agreements should be bilateral with few multilateral deals.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:16 PM (ctrM5)

229 Okay, checked the polls. AfD is in second place, but the Free Democrats are only polling 4%, which is below the threshold to get seats.

What that means is that if the CDU/CSU win a plurality, they will have to coalition with either the Social Democrats or the Greens. They cannot coalition with AfD because they are both of the right, and AfD is stealing their voters, which is why all parties are declaring them to be anathema.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:16 PM (ZOv7s)

230 The thing about the ERA is that were it contested, it should be very easy to challenge as it received two illegal extensions to its ratification date back in the day.

But, then again: PLAY CALVINBALL!

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:17 PM (krQz2)

231 You don't get from where we are, to where we'd like to go, with purely Free Market solutions. You sure as shit don't get there with Free International Trade. Or even bitching in the streets over Top Marginal Rates.
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You may (or may not) get there quickly with "purely Free Market solutions", but to get there at all we must sell others on the concepts of sound economic theory which to some degree all rely on a mostly unregulated market.

I do agree that "bitching in the streets over Top Marginal Rates" doesn't resonate at all with Joe and Mary Six-pack.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 05:17 PM (azSra)

232 Bet Far Right in European is Nazis, just as it stated in the 1940s

Posted by: Skip at January 17, 2025 05:17 PM (fwDg9)

233 225 I suspect Young was the reason the case settled now. Up til now he had refused to settle because he wanted a public acknowledgement of what CNN had done to him. Now that he’s got there, I imagine he just said “sure, give me the money, we’re done here.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 17, 2025 05:15 PM (0fHLt)

He seems to be a brave man.

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (VnUSN)

234 Hegseth now has 50 confimed votes so he is in. The next psyop will be against Kash.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (t/2Uw)

235 It's an op to force Trump's DoJ to defend the position that the ERA (it makes women real persons!) has not been ratified. And to force the (illegitimate, ultra-conservative!) SCOTUS to shut-down this foolishness after an Hawaiian Fed Judge and the 9th Circuit rule the ERA is in fact, ratified.
Posted by: Gref
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US DoJ is under no compulsion to defend past actions by a Prezy.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (ctrM5)

236 You don't get from where we are, to where we'd like to go, with purely Free Market solutions. You sure as shit don't get there with Free International Trade. Or even bitching in the streets over Top Marginal Rates.
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:11 PM (E0n90)

I'm free markety, but even the most free country needs to set aside these wishes if it wants to build its own industries for war making and defense at a minimum. Even my jaded soul is still shocked that we have one ammo maker in our country and lots of our electronics are made in the country we are most likely to go to war with.

People need to be shot for that.

Paranoid old Russia kept all its obsolete tanks and factories of old equipment waiting for a big war from the bad old days and they are kicking Ukraine's ass with them. Turns out an old tank is great for mobile artillery, busting bunkers and anywhere where the 100 or so real tanks the other side has in the country are.

and all those mothballed factories are working 24-7.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (n7h9X)

237 So if they're in a vacuum, what would take the unwanted extra electron?
Posted by: Alvin Bragg

Off sock, but still wondering about this. I mean, would a lithium battery burn in space?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (Dm8we)

238 This thing today also hits onto something else.

All of us - well, OK, some of you - just assume when you put money in the 401K, or company stock, you won't get screwed.

Depression Era folks - that generation before WW II when they still didn't trust banks or government - would laugh in your face about such shit.

Back, back in the day ? You wouldn't need the courts to assume you were getting screwed on your money. Those old fucks just knew it - because they'd lived it.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (E0n90)

239 @184 I know of a datacenter that was built in SF with a halon fire suppression system in 2004. It said so on the warning labels.

Posted by: Chinese Spokesman Say at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (RS/nC)

240 (Reuters) Young, wearing a dark suit and blue tie, smiled as Henry thanked the lawyers for their work before dismissing them.

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (VnUSN)

241 234 Hegseth now has 50 confimed votes so he is in. The next psyop will be against Kash.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Hegseth was an outsider so worried more about him. Kash, for better or worse, is more on an insider.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:19 PM (ctrM5)

242 Hegseth now has 50 confimed votes so he is in. The next psyop will be against Kash.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (t/2Uw)

Or Tulsi

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:19 PM (n7h9X)

243 Then GATT and WTO got glomped on top of it and made a mess of international trade in that it gave incentive to ask forgiveness rather than permission.

Trade agreements should be bilateral with few multilateral deals.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Generations of economists have grown up believing the lie that Smoot-Hawley caused the Great Depression rather than FDR's fiscal policies.

Trade didn't collapse because of tariffs, it was slumping demand. The solution of paying people not to grow things worked out great.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 17, 2025 05:19 PM (ZOv7s)

244 The settlement was only for the punitive damages so he's getting 5 million plus the settlement amount. i imiagine this also means no appealso he will get the money right away.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:19 PM (t/2Uw)

245 234 Hegseth now has 50 confirmed votes so he is in.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (t/2Uw)

YAY!

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:20 PM (VnUSN)

246 "Look, it's unfortunate that President Biden his so senile that he no longer knows or understands the law. His unilateral declaration of the ERA as law has no validity and is not law.
________________

And Giglibrand is too effing stupid to grasp this rather essential point.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:20 PM (YqDXo)

247 Burn BlackRock, BURN.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 17, 2025 05:02 PM (O7YUW)

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Disco Inferno

Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 05:20 PM (unUNN)

248 This thing today also hits onto something else.

All of us - well, OK, some of you - just assume when you put money in the 401K, or company stock, you won't get screwed.

Depression Era folks - that generation before WW II when they still didn't trust banks or government - would laugh in your face about such shit.

Back, back in the day ? You wouldn't need the courts to assume you were getting screwed on your money. Those old fucks just knew it - because they'd lived it.
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:18 PM (E0n90)

You just paid attention to "Its a Wonderful Life" to learn about that.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (n7h9X)

249 246 Giglibrand
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:20 PM (YqDXo)

LOL

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (VnUSN)

250 Funny how the words "fiduciary responsibility" are being taken seriously now.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (ZmEVT)

251 And Giglibrand is too effing stupid to grasp this rather essential point.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:20 PM (YqDXo)
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Or she's just pushing the spin to confuse normies.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (krQz2)

252 I've literally heard a CEO claim that "we" had to do something because everyone else was doing it.

Great leadership in action.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Now do university administrators.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (ctrM5)

253 Do Democrats really want the president to have the power to change the Constitution with a Tweet with Crazy Donnie scheduled to take office in 2 days?

That seems shortsighted.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (LkLld)

Trump should declare the 22nd Amendment no longer applies to the office of the president but instead it applies to both houses of Congress

Posted by: Doof at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (RFPHU)

254 Before FDIC, banks go under and the depositors were screwed.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 17, 2025 05:22 PM (ZmEVT)

255 252 Now do university administrators.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (ctrM5)

And by "do," you mean ....

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:22 PM (VnUSN)

256 "Look, it's unfortunate that President Biden his so senile that he no longer knows or understands the law. His unilateral declaration of the ERA as law has no validity and is not law.
________________

And Giglibrand is too effing stupid to grasp this rather essential point.
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The entirety of leftist politics these days seems to be performance art. There is actually zero expectation that any of their acts will turn out to be *effective*, instead its as if the performance itself is the desired outcome.

Posted by: Crusader at January 17, 2025 05:22 PM (azSra)

257 Senator Gillibrand has been arrested by the Selective Service for not registering for the draft since 1982.
Posted by: Oldcat

Not one that ignorant of the rules should be playing the game.

Time for her state to bench her.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 17, 2025 05:22 PM (hB7mE)

258 Meanwhile the Germans are flipping out because the "far right" is going to win the elections next month ("far right" ofc being anti immigration). They will not be permitted to win.
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (KQk9m)

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Same leftie thinking and actions as in 1930s, guaranteed to take us back there.

Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 05:23 PM (unUNN)

259 People miss this extraordinary thing:

Blackrock wasn't investing THEIR money in ESG.

They were investing YOUR money in ESG. Without your knowledge or permissions.

Right, They were never going to run out because they weren't investing their treasure. Because they were not giving money away, they were pressuring banks and investors to not invest except along their ideological lines.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:23 PM (2VST1)

260 Before FDIC, banks go under and the depositors were screwed.
Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 17, 2025 05:22 PM (ZmEVT)

Now they just print fake money and the depositors are screwed.

There used to be penny candy. Now there isn't.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:23 PM (n7h9X)

261 Generations of economists have grown up believing the lie that Smoot-Hawley caused the Great Depression rather than FDR's fiscal policies.

Trade didn't collapse because of tariffs, it was slumping demand. The solution of paying people not to grow things worked out great.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Later econometricians worked out the approximate trade effects to come out to something less than 0.5 percent (.005).

International trade broke down primarily because we could not longer send loans to Germany in order for them to pay war reparations to Britain and France for them to pay back war loans from the US.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:24 PM (ctrM5)

262 It will be interesting to see what the final vote count is for Hegseth. If the Democrats will finally realize they will get more by backing Trump than opposing him.
Althugh Kash is an inside, he is really dangerous and can hurt them more.
Tulsi being a woman, former Democrat, former military will make it harder to dirty her.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:24 PM (t/2Uw)

263 Do Democrats really want the president to have the power to change the Constitution with a Tweet with Crazy Donnie scheduled to take office in 2 days?

That seems shortsighted.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (LkLld)
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If non-senile Presidents did have that power, there is a whole bunch of amendments that Trump should nuke.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:24 PM (YqDXo)

264 Dems have come to rely on "Our side of the story".

They just need "a side".

Who can put it past NY or DC judges to cite this very "amendment" to decide cases. It's going to be up to the SCOTUS to slap it down--if we get that lucky.

This is a turd in the punchbowl move. Just like tomorrow when Biden pardons the entire Democrat party, live or dead. (Kidding--I hope.)

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:24 PM (krQz2)

265 Now do university administrators.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (ctrM5)

Yikes.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 17, 2025 05:25 PM (i24o9)

266 254 Before FDIC, banks go under and the depositors were screwed.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 17, 2025 05:22 PM (ZmEVT)

The FDIC can only cover so much, though. If a large enough number of banks were to go under in a short period of time, then many depositors will still be screwed.

Posted by: Farquad at January 17, 2025 05:25 PM (CFMhl)

267 That seems shortsighted.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:08 PM (LkLld)
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I thought you said they were the California's-Not-Going-To-Really-Burn-Down Democratic Party?

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:25 PM (krQz2)

268 >>@184 I know of a datacenter that was built in SF with a halon fire suppression system in 2004. It said so on the warning labels.

Then ban was phased in over time because it was in such wide use, particularly by the feds. Halon is recyclable so some critical installations can get systems recharged but the production of halon is now banned.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 17, 2025 05:25 PM (LkLld)

269 Put me in coach!

JUST IN: Vivek Ramaswamy to Announce Run For Governor of Ohio

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:25 PM (jQ+5q)

270 Before FDIC, banks go under and the depositors were screwed.

Yep. And in our modern era ? Bond-holders get told they're screwed while the UWA pension fund gets made whole. But GM is alive, and Osama is dead.

While all that is going on ? My local bank took Tarp funds to buy other banks. Same shit Mitt Romney did, with private money.

We have not lived in a Capitalistic system my entire life. Seems like a good way to go. We should try it.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (E0n90)

271 Meanwhile the Germans are flipping out because the "far right" is going to win the elections next month ("far right" ofc being anti immigration). They will not be permitted to win.
Posted by: steevy at January 17, 2025 05:10 PM (KQk9m)

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Same leftie thinking and actions as in 1930s, guaranteed to take us back there.
Posted by: Decaf at January 17, 2025 05:23 PM (unUNN)

They've already cancelled Romanian elections since the wrong guy was winning. The treaties that made the EU were never ratified properly - they re did referendums until they won once and never again.

The EU has always been a dictatorship.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (n7h9X)

272 Folks, using the power invested in the Office of the President by Article VIII of the Constitution, and the fact I graduated first in my law school class, I hereby declare:

1. The 2nd Amendment of the Constitution is null and void;

2. The US Marshal's Service shall immediately apprehend and summarily execute Donald J. Trump, J.D, Vance, and all elected Republicans, Federal, State, and Local;

3. Chocolate Chocolate-Chip ice cream is the National Ice Cream Flavor of the United States.

Not kidding, folks! Not a joke!

Hey, who dropped this net over me? Help, Mr. Wizard!

Posted by: Joe Biden, Total and Ultimate President of Delaware and the other Forty-something States at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (aBgBM)

273 There is actually zero expectation that any of their acts will turn out to be *effective*, instead its as if the performance itself is the desired outcome.
Posted by: Crusader

There really is something in their minds that equates speech about a thing with doing that thing.

Which means any warning about the consequences of their actions is the same as threatening to make those consequences happen is the same as having already taken action against them.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (hB7mE)

274 And by "do," you mean ....
Posted by: m
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Shorthand for apply the same analysis to university administrators. I would not wish Jay harm as university administrators are a generally loathsome bunch. They get worse generally as they get more distant from the actual function of universities of teaching and research.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (ctrM5)

275 Unfortunately Schoolhouse Rock did a piece on how a bill becomes a law. They don't seem to have one on how an Amendment Proposal becomes a Constitutional Amendment.

Somebody could send that to Gillibrand.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:12 PM

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If people understood what a pain in the balls it is to amend the constitution, and that it's designed to be so, they might trouble themselves to understand and appreciate the document a little more. Can't have that!!

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (amTrm)

276 Probably already mentioned, there was an eEV battery warehouse in San Diego that caught fire last summer/fall and it raged for weeks. The water that puts out the battery fires also creates new fires. They just have to let it burn and keep it under control, so this kind of fire takes exponentially more water.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 17, 2025 05:27 PM (Hkcdp)

277 The EU has always been a dictatorship.
Posted by: Oldcat

EUcrats might just soon regret that they have no army nor police. Also Belgium is hardly defensible.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:27 PM (ctrM5)

278 Biden's own DOJ in 2022 said this was not legitimate. His OWN DOJ. I wonder which 20 something year old intern tweeted this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:28 PM (t/2Uw)

279 The EU has always been a dictatorship.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (n7h9X)
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Those countries have had an undeclared fascist structure since mid-20th century.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

280 274 And by "do," you mean ....
Posted by: m
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Shorthand for apply the same analysis to university administrators. I would not wish Jay harm as university administrators are a generally loathsome bunch. They get worse generally as they get more distant from the actual function of universities of teaching and research.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (ctrM5)

Sorry, whig, I was joking around; I maybe should have said, "Phrasing?"

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:28 PM (VnUSN)

281 People miss this extraordinary thing:

Blackrock wasn't investing THEIR money in ESG.

They were investing YOUR money in ESG. Without your knowledge or permissions.
__________________

The Magnificent Mulatto failed to grasp this essential point in connection with hedge funds during the financial crisis. He thought he was screwing the hedge funds, apparently unaware that hedge funds are not investing their own money, but rather that of the limited partners. The limited partner that really got hosed by this idiot? The Michigan teachers' pension fund.

You've got to laugh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (YqDXo)

282 Trump should declare the 22nd Amendment no longer applies to the office of the president but instead it applies to both houses of Congress

Just as valid and constitutional as Biden's tweet (or rather, whoever tweets for Biden). My guess is that everyone is just doing their bucket list while they have a few days left, no matter how crazy, stupid, or impossible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (2VST1)

283 JUST IN: Vivek Ramaswamy to Announce Run For Governor of Ohio

I always thought that guy was smart. Naive, but smart. He had fifty states to choose from. And he picked ... Ohio ?

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (E0n90)

284 I just had a thought.
I like to watch WWII documentaries.
I had a vision of a Nurenberg stile bleacher set up filled with all the criminal Democraps.
That would be justice overload...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (jQ+5q)

285 Biden's own DOJ in 2022 said this was not legitimate. His OWN DOJ. I wonder which 20 something year old intern tweeted this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:28 PM (t/2Uw)
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A. They were against it before they were for it.

B. They've "grown"

Or something.

Posted by: Axeman at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (krQz2)

286 Put me in coach!

JUST IN: Vivek Ramaswamy to Announce Run For Governor of Ohio

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:25 PM (jQ+5q)

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H1-B visa holders hardest hit ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (2q1Vc)

287 A fire suppressant system to put out fires that can't possibly be put out by the laws of physics?

Ya don't say.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:30 PM (fV+MH)

288 Shorthand for apply the same analysis to university administrators. I would not wish Jay harm as university administrators are a generally loathsome bunch. They get worse generally as they get more distant from the actual function of universities of teaching and research.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (ctrM5)
____________________

No argument here, God knows.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:30 PM (YqDXo)

289 Yes I know I'm late.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:30 PM (fV+MH)

290 The EU has always been a dictatorship.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (n7h9X)

We should annex Greenland. And then Iceland. Just so we have a clean path to whatever land war they stir up next.

Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (E0n90)

291 JUST IN: Vivek Ramaswamy to Announce Run For Governor of Ohio

I always thought that guy was smart. Naive, but smart. He had fifty states to choose from. And he picked ... Ohio ?
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (E0n90)

He was born in Cincinnati.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (ExV1e)

292 Biden's own DOJ in 2022 said this was not legitimate. His OWN DOJ. I wonder which 20 something year old intern tweeted this.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at January 17, 2025 05:28 PM (t/2Uw)

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The same one who tweeted that he was dropping out of the Presidential election?

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (2q1Vc)

293 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

From your mouth...er, fingers, to God's Ears.

I'd be the first one in line to give up my right to vote if it meant all these raging lunatic females had to as well.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (Vvh2V)

294 289 Yes I know I'm late.

late as in the late arthur dent?

Posted by: slartibartfast at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (edU/H)

295 Nood

Posted by: Bert G at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (CiC/b)

296
I've literally heard a CEO claim that "we" had to do something because everyone else was doing it.

Great leadership in action.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

There ain't nothin' that will hit ya
Like when you get your picture
On the cover of CEO

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (63Dwl)

297 I always thought that guy was smart. Naive, but smart. He had fifty states to choose from. And he picked ... Ohio ?
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (E0n90)

Trump weaved Vivek into taking JD Vance Ohio seat RINO . Dewine picked a different guy. I guess that got Vivek's curry up!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (jQ+5q)

298 Sorry, whig, I was joking around; I maybe should have said, "Phrasing?"
Posted by: m
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No worries, mate. I figured out that is what you meant but always reply straight nowadays because some folks get tetchy.

Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (ctrM5)

299 I just had a thought.
I like to watch WWII documentaries.
I had a vision of a Nurenberg stile bleacher set up filled with all the criminal Democraps.
That would be justice overload...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (jQ+5q)

You obviously missed my rant on the ONT last night.lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (VwHCD)

300 300

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (VnUSN)

301 Now they just print fake money and the depositors are screwed.

There is actually a fund of money set aside to protect banks, the FDIC is a depository. Most of the money that was just printed with Quantitative Easing under Obama (negative interest rates creating money from nothing) was shoved into this fund, against crashing banks.

Mind you most of the money in the system now is fake, without backing, simply invented by the federal reserve and given to the treasury. So yeah, its invented fake money, but not directly so: they aren't just running the printers to hand out if a bank goes under.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 17, 2025 05:33 PM (2VST1)

302 298 Sorry, whig, I was joking around; I maybe should have said, "Phrasing?"
Posted by: m
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No worries, mate. I figured out that is what you meant but always reply straight nowadays because some folks get tetchy.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:32 PM (ctrM5)

Yeah, straight replies are good.

Posted by: m at January 17, 2025 05:33 PM (VnUSN)

303 "The EU has always been a dictatorship.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:26 PM (n7h9X)
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Those countries have had an undeclared fascist structure since mid-20th century.
Posted by: Axeman"

Crazy thought...

Europeans are fascistic by nature?

But I'm always wrong about everything.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:33 PM (fV+MH)

304 Funny how the words "fiduciary responsibility" are being taken seriously now.

Posted by: No one of any consequence at January 17, 2025 05:21 PM (ZmEVT)

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There's a new POTUS and AG in town ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (2q1Vc)

305 Free trade is great, when the entities involved have similar costs and profits, and can focus on their strong points, while importing on their weaker points.

It's a funny ol' concept called "comparative advantage." But it helps if you have a funny ol' thing called "absolute advantage."

It's a helluva lot easier to negotiate a low cost for your own high cost good if you have a lower cost good than your trade partner, as a bargaining chip.

But you could always do it the American way, and get brutally ass raped, if that's your thing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (BI5O2)

306 I'd like to see investment firms NOT having the ability to vote shareholder shares. It's totally bogus that they have that right. Only natural persons - not corporations - should have the right to vote shares.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:35 PM (YqDXo)

307 No worries, mate. I figured out that is what you meant but always reply straight nowadays because some folks get tetchy.
Posted by: whig

I never got any tetchy.

WHERE'S MY TETCHY?

Posted by: Miklos gets irritated if he think's he's left out at January 17, 2025 05:37 PM (xesY+)

308 Europeans are fascistic by nature?
_______________

Absolutely they are.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (YqDXo)

309 Crazy thought...

Europeans are fascistic by nature?

But I'm always wrong about everything.

Posted by: eleven at January 17, 2025 05:33 PM (fV+MH)

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The literal, "spiritual," and philosophical home of The Satanic Karl Marx.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:38 PM (2q1Vc)

310 Only natural persons - not corporations - should have the right to vote shares.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

And get rid of "Class A" shares- which have all the voting rights.

NY Times Company hardest hit.

Posted by: Miklos has Ideas at January 17, 2025 05:39 PM (xesY+)

311 I saw Tetchy open for The Clash at Electric Circus in '78.

Posted by: ShainS -- Commie-Caused Conflagrations Created Califzuela's Chernobyl at January 17, 2025 05:41 PM (2q1Vc)

312 Oh, yeah- if you've won a Pulitzer Prize, you get a pardon...

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 17, 2025 05:42 PM (/3Wsk)

313 Nice gams for an old broad.

Posted by: Egg Shen, Bus Philosophiser at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (uR4Tu)

314 You know, Trump is worth 100 in The Bush.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (fzEVZ)

315 "President Biden just declared"

Sorry, Senator Jellypants, that's not how constitutional amendments work.

I declare he is a pants-shitting retard amd you are a washed up slut and that you should both go fuck yourselves with rusty chainsaws.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 17, 2025 05:44 PM (S1XLH)

316 The EU has always been a dictatorship.
Posted by: Oldcat

EUcrats might just soon regret that they have no army nor police. Also Belgium is hardly defensible.
Posted by: whig at January 17, 2025 05:27 PM (ctrM5)

They already have. Farage fought proposals for the EU army when he was in there, and now the plan seems to use NATO for the purpose. Those idiots don't realize that NATO has no troops either.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:51 PM (n7h9X)

317 JUST IN: Vivek Ramaswamy to Announce Run For Governor of Ohio

I always thought that guy was smart. Naive, but smart. He had fifty states to choose from. And he picked ... Ohio ?
Posted by: What Willl We Do at January 17, 2025 05:29 PM (E0n90)

He was born in Cincinnati.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 17, 2025 05:31 PM (ExV1e)

its the second largest Midwest State, short of blue hellhole Illinois. Lets lock that down for 8 years

Posted by: Oldcat at January 17, 2025 05:59 PM (n7h9X)

318 Oh boy the damn is sprouting a leak..
The white kid sweating.
Feeling the heat
He told on himself.
Put him in a room with two old timey cops for questioning.

What do you know??
Who was your contact for the sale?
slap's him around

BREAKING: Biden CIA analyst admits to leaking Israeli plans to strike Iran

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 06:10 PM (jQ+5q)

319 BREAKING: Biden CIA analyst admits to leaking Israeli plans to strike Iran
link for 318

https://tinyurl.com/yc8cbkbj

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 17, 2025 06:12 PM (jQ+5q)

320 Gillibrand is an Insurrectionist! Arrest HER!!
Well...perhaps...but she is most assuredly a retard.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 17, 2025 07:44 PM (XMwZJ)

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