As It Becomes Clear That California's Insane "Environmental" Policies Resulted in the Fires, Media Insists We Are Not Permitted to Talk About the Causes of the Inferno

Other factors to blame: the budget cuts ordered by DEI Mayor Bass and the gonzo push to fill the fire departments with lesbians, who we all know are the equal to men in physical ability. (Which has been proven by women's absolute domination of transgenders who enter their sports at advanced ages with little prior experience.)

But I'll talk about them in a different post. Right now I want to talk about the fact that California's fire hydrants were bone dry during the fires, and that this is due to California permitting millions of gallons of freshwater run into the ocean every year instead of catching that precious water in cisterns and reservoirs.

They're wasting millions of gallons of critical fresh water -- and remember, California is a desert state where water is scarce and precious -- to save the "delta smelt," which I guess does best when fresh water is running into the sea.

How did the smelt become more important than the lives of human beings?

I don't know, but, via David Strom, Jonathan Turley reminds us that the "endangered fish," the Snail Darter, used by the left to stop damming in Tennessee was more than endangered. It was non-existent. They just took a very common non-endangered fish and claimed they discovered a new identical sub-species, which they claimed was endangered.

And voila -- instant victories in corruptly-arranged settlements. The scam has two parts: Outside "environmental" extortionists that file lawsuits, and corrupt insider bureaucrats who want to create their own laws through settlements with litigants rather than doing what ordinary citizens do, which is to petition their representatives for legislation.

In the annals of environmental law, no creature is more famous than the Snail Darter, the endangered species that shut down completion of the Tellico Dam in the 1970s. It required congressional legislation to allow the dam to be finished after years in the courts where judges maintained that the species had to be protected under the Endangered Species Act. According to the New York Times., the species may turn out to be as mythical as a unicorn.
The controversy began in 1967 when the Tennessee Valley Authority started constructing a dam on the Little Tennessee River, roughly 20 miles outside Knoxville. Environmentalists and locals opposed the project and, in 1973, a zoologist at the University of Tennessee named David Etnier went snorkeling with his students and found a possible solution. He spotted a small fish and called it a "snail darter" because of its movements and eating habits. He reportedly announced "Here's a little fish that might save your farm."
Dr. Zygmunt Plater, an environmental law professor at Boston College, represented the snail darter before the Supreme Court. He did an excellent job and, in 1978, the Supreme Court ruled that "the Endangered Species Act prohibits impoundment of the Little Tennessee River by the Tellico Dam" to protect the endangered snail darters.
That was then.
The Times now quotes Thomas Near, the curator of ichthyology at the Yale Peabody Museum who leads a fish biology lab at the university, that "there is, technically, no snail darter." Worse yet, it was actually just another member of the eastern population of Percina uranidea, or stargazing darters, which is not considered endangered.
In other words, years of litigation and millions of dollars were spent on what was a false claim, and the courts accepted the claims hook, line, and sinker.

"Environmentalists" rigged the #FakeScience for political purposes, inventing a new endangered species out of thin air, and their corrupt co-conspirators in the government accepted the #FakeScience as "proof."

It wasn't an "endangered" minor variant -- it was the same fucking fish all along.

Trump's been telling California to stop wasting its limited supply of water -- and noting that California is causing wildfires by wasting water -- since at least as early as 2019. He also slammed Newsom for failing to clear forested areas of deadfall, which of course is the kindling that sets woods on fire. I guess "environmentalists" object to cleaning forested areas. They want them au naturel, so that they can be more au flambé.

Trump again correctly diagnosed the reasons for California's state-mandated flammability on Joe Rogan, days before the election:

Here is President Trump three months ago on the famous Joe Rogan episode talking about how California refuses to build water reservoirs and manage their forests to prevent wildfires. pic.twitter.com/o5gUSkXexh
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) January 8, 2025

He again blasted Newsom for the Smelt Fires.

🚨JUST IN: Trump slams CA for lack of water needed to fight the devastating fires in LA:

“It's very sad because I've been trying to get Gavin Newsom to allow water to come. You have tremendous water up there. They send it out to the Pacific because they're trying to protect a… pic.twitter.com/d7W5ebMYu8
— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) January 9, 2025

Trump has been consistent and right in blaming Newsom and California's lunatic leftwing government for their constant wildfires.

So of course the media has to ride to the rescue.

A woke "news" anchor claimed that the fire hydrants in California Akshually weren't bone dry. Then he threw to an on-scene reporter who said that firefighters were saying the hydrants were bone-dry.

This news anchor tried to come to the defense of elected Democrats by claiming that Rick Caruso was wrong about firefighters not having water to put out fires but then the reporter on the ground jumps in to confirm that there’s NO WATER.

This is criminal. pic.twitter.com/dzDMrXIy00
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) January 9, 2025

Dana Bash "fumed" that Trump was blaming California's government for California's problems. She claimed that it was just so hurtful to "politicize" this situation -- a standard she never applies when Democrats rush to blame conservatives or guns for mass shootings, of course.

NEW: CNN fumes over Trump's criticisms of California as fires rip through the state, says *Trump* hasn't learned his lesson.

These clowns never learn.

The statement comes after Trump has publicly for years called on California to take fire safety seriously.

"This is the same… pic.twitter.com/1iAkrY45gk
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 8, 2025

Newsom signaled to his media allies that they needed to Swarm in to protect him -- he's the Real Victim here, because Trump said he's bad at his job.

NEW: CA Governor Gavin Newsom says he is so furious at Trump for blaming him for the California fires that he won’t even respond.

Newsom, who has directed billions of gallons of water into the Pacific Ocean, fumed that Trump would blame him.

“One can't even respond to it… This… pic.twitter.com/scQo7BGi9v
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) January 9, 2025

And so they duly Swarmed around him like a phalanx of Secret Service agents:

Republicans are blaming Dem policies for the catastrophic wildfires tearing through Los Angeles. 👉 https://t.co/pp7CimBTaI pic.twitter.com/AR97OkuAJq
— POLITICO (@politico) January 9, 2025

There's some Seizing and Pouncing going on, according to Politico:

Republicans are seizing on the catastrophic wildfires that tore through the Los Angeles area early Wednesday, blaming Democratic policies for the deadly, wind-fueled conflagrations that forced tens of thousands to flee their homes.
President-elect Donald Trump lashed out at Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday, calling the fires "virtually apocalyptic" in a Truth Social post and pointing a finger at state rules protecting endangered species for limiting the amount of water that gets sent south from Northern California.
"I will demand that this incompetent governor allow beautiful, clean, fresh water to FLOW INTO CALIFORNIA!," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "He is the blame for this."
Elon Musk also piled on, retweeting a comment by Libs of TikTok criticizing a delay in building dams and adding: "Crazy."

Note that neither Dana Bash nor Politico objected to the left claiming that "global warming" caused these fires. That was not politicizing the disaster, apparently.

For reasons they never expressed.

Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2025 03:29 PM (jGGMD)

2 I had an email this morning from my former sister-in-law who has lived, and raised her family in, their modest little house in Altadena since she got married about 40 years ago. "We evacuated night before last and got confirmation yesterday morning that our house, block, neighborhood and most of the town are gone. We are devastated and safe and in shock." I've literally felt sick ever since.

Posted by: Peaches at January 09, 2025 03:29 PM (14URa)

3 "This wouldn't have happened if we had a carbon tax and put Trump in jail!"
-sexual lovers of Science

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)

4 Oh, Damn...

I read the whole thing.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (oLK8+)

5 Pretty sure the media and the left are not going to be able to keep this out of the news cycle. Especially when the state of california comes to the fed asking for hundreds of billions to bail them out because of these fires.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (Rcnd3)

6 Hi, Jenna!

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ)

7
Everyone wants to live amidst pristine, untouched Nature until pristine, untouched Nature tries to kill you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (R9+Vu)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (Zz0t1)

9 ‘ As It Becomes Clear That California's Insane "Environmental" Policies Resulted in the Fires, Media Insists We Are Not Permitted to Talk About the Causes of the Inferno’

I’ve been saying this for 5 years.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (jbnUc)

10 As It Becomes Clear That California's Insane "Environmental" Policies Resulted in the Fires,

Media Insists We Are Not Permitted to Talk About the Causes of the Inferno
—Ace

Try to talk to them about it. It's like when you throw Holy Water on a vampire.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (5ZASI)

11 I guess "environmentalists" object to cleaning forested areas.

this is absolutely true, they will claim this is to protect wild areas where animals might want to live.

those animals could well be insects! but we have to protect THEIR habitats by leaving bramble and brush wild, screw the human inhabitants

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

12 Nope. Climate change IS the cause. Insurance will be almost impossible to get in hard hit states like California and Florida as disasters increase.

Posted by: Sid at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (K0Pcn)

13 Unfortunately, not one consequence will happen to those involved with creating this tremendous devastation and loss.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 03:32 PM (Zz0t1)

14 I have a house on the Central Coast of the State and can tell you we had two of the heaviest rainfall and snowpack years in the last 20 years in 2023 and 2024. And all that surplus water went right to the ocean.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at January 09, 2025 03:32 PM (th/4a)

15 So basically, Newsom's response to Trump's very accurate (if Trumpian) criticisms has been to cry about mean tweets and refuse to address the content of said criticisms?

I'm shocked. This is such an off-brand thing for him to do.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2025 03:32 PM (jGGMD)

16 btw similarly here, all the lovely ponds and dammed areas had to be turned into swamps, the 150 year old dam structures destroyed, to placate the very stupid Army Corps of Engineers, who are intensely into "wetlands" for duh baby animals

which probably means mosquitoes. they protect baby mosquitoes and the flooding around here is much worse, thanks guys!

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 09, 2025 03:33 PM (Pv3Rg)

17 Hey RFK JR needs to hook up with Green Peace Founder Patrick Moore...
bring him into the fold.
Good guy told of commies taking ovev green peace when the soviet union fell.
He left his own organization
If there ever was a one world organization it should be centered on stewardship of the mama...earth but just clean up our act. I think it was Bush who left the Kyoto Protocol agreement but Trump told the UN I think the stick the Paris accords..
Carbon credits? dont make me laugh

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:33 PM (jQ+5q)

18 Angry "Told you so" Ace is best Ace.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 09, 2025 03:33 PM (O7YUW)

19 So glad the 2028 lib 'hair apparent' is getting roasted for being a fire bug.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2025 03:33 PM (RMhXV)

20 "Republicans say" is all a Progressive needs to hear to ignore the rest of the sentence.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 09, 2025 03:33 PM (PiwSw)

21 Posted by: Little Larry Sellers

Where on the Central Coast are you?

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (77rzZ)

22 I guess "environmentalists" object to cleaning forested areas.

this is absolutely true, they will claim this is to protect wild areas where animals might want to live.

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (Pv3Rg)

Well, all those animals are now, how you say, crispy critters.

Posted by: Peaches at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (14URa)

23 yeah this is the end of the line for Newscum

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (Pv3Rg)

24 I wonder if the LAFD is re-thinking their decision to send surplus equipment to the Ukraine in 2022.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (VNX3d)

25 >>Nope. Climate change IS the cause.

I blame Alar.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (oLK8+)

26 Right now I want to talk about the fact that California's fire hydrants were bone dry during the fires, and that this is due to California permitting millions of gallons of freshwater run into the ocean every year instead of catching that precious water in cisterns and reservoirs.

==

stupid, stupid , stupid

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (g47mK)

27 I guess Californians just didn't believe in Climate Change hard enough. Tinkerbell says "be better".

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (u59JI)

28 All we have to do is reverse the industrial revolution and, I don't know, H-Bomb India, China, Russia, Brazil and Nigeria to cut carbon emissions to a sustainable level that will slow Global Warming.

It's just crazy to suggest filling fire suppressions systems and clearing out massive stores of kindling could make a difference.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (ualY1)

29
All these burned down houses will open up plenty of room for mass transit!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (R9+Vu)

30 >>Posted by: Little Larry Sellers

This is what happens, Larry!

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (oLK8+)

31 Pouncing and seizing.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (LkLld)

32 Well, all those animals are now, how you say, crispy critters.

sure but environmentalists don't care about that

I mean PETA is happy when "ethic treatment" means animals are put to death en masse - BY THEM!

all of this is just marxism

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (Pv3Rg)

33 I blame Alar.
Posted by: garrett

The Medfly.

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (77rzZ)

34 The US left both the Kyoto Protocols and The Paris Accords due to other members do not give a crapped rats ass about cleaning up the earth. They just want the jing!!!

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (jQ+5q)

35 lol I meant ethical treatment of course

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (Pv3Rg)

36 I'm still convinced Sid is a sock for one of you Morons.

Change my mind.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (kgE5c)

37 Even accepting Politico's logic, why should Republicans *not* be Seizing and Pouncing on the story? Isn't that the whole point of why we do politics: mobilizing public opinion to pass legislation addressing the issue?

Oh wait, I forgot it's only okay when Democrats do it. Never mind.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (jGGMD)

38 Obviously, the answer is for California to raise taxes and create a blue-ribbon "Fire Bad" panel, and possibly appoint a "Fire Bad" Czar. Also, more taxes.

Posted by: brak at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (jGJov)

39 Just think.

On one of them other divergent timelines, this plastic haired dipshit would be going through this disaster as President Elect Newsom.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (VoAdT)

40 33 I blame Alar.
Posted by: garrett

The Medfly.
Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:35 PM (77rzZ)

The African 'Killer' Bee.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (JgYYs)

41 Razorfist absolutely nails this topic.

https://tinyurl.com/yc6cdxe5

Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (dIske)

42 Green New Deals
Commie Eyes too
Off came the wheels

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (jQ+5q)

43 Sid Johnson is right! Californians didn't believe hard enough, and an angry Gaia smited them!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (u59JI)

44 >>this is absolutely true, they will claim this is to protect wild areas where animals might want to live.

I mean, the wild areas themselves burn up, killing millions of animals and destroying their precious ecosystem.

Seems like maybe we could stop that with just some scrub-cleaning. And dropping water preventatively on dry woods.

but you can't drop water on dry woods when you've intentionally starved yourself of water.

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2025 03:36 PM (KRtlO)

45 It was all stolen land anyway, amiright?

Let the rightful native owners rebuild.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (RLLZj)

46 >>>I’ve been saying this for 5 years.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

lol

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (KRtlO)

47 As It Becomes Clear That California's Insane "Environmental" Policies Resulted in the Fires, Media Insists We Are Not Permitted to Talk About the Causes of the Inferno

There seems to be a common playbook between the British left and the American left. "Don't talk about it" isn't really an effective strategy anymore, but I guess it's all they have.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (xCA6C)

48 California isn't a desert state. SoCal is sort of a desert, but the Sierra mtns run for 500 miles to the oregon border, and they get lots of snow, rain every winter.
They choose to let most of this water flow into the ocean.
It's retarded

Posted by: Kamala's Throat at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (W+TLY)

49 Nope. Climate change IS the cause. Insurance will be almost impossible to get in hard hit states like California and Florida as disasters increase.
Posted by: Sid at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM (K0Pcn)
____________________

Climate change is the cause of what, precisely?

How much did the climate change, and which model predicted that particular rate of change?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (ualY1)

50
Acid rain would have put out these fires fast.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (R9+Vu)

51 Impoundments aren't only for storage.

Impoundments pull water tables up and reduce the effects of drought years.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (oLK8+)

52 I'm just posting in the vain hope that Ace will quote my pearls of wisdom.

Posted by: ballistic at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (QeTpV)

53 The bigger picture is that the entire Endangered Species Act is a corrupt boondoggle that should be gutted if not completely replaced with more sensible legislation.

The main problem being that they've added species that are in no danger of going extinct. The current act covers over 2,000 species! They've done this by adding not only truly "endangered" species, but also "threatened" species (whatever that is).

They also play games by looking only at the populations in certain limited areas. So if Species X has a very low and vulnerable population in Area Y, then it's counted as endangered in Y even if the same species is all over Area Z. (I believe that's what they did with the snail darter.)

You can argue over whether it's worth protecting worthless, useless species like the snail darter at all, even if they are endangered. But it's insane to add thousands of non-endangered species to the list.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (iFTx/)

54 One can have fire suppression policies or "au natural" landscape, but not both.

Annual fires, which have existed forever, can be beneficial, because they clean up deadfall when it's manageable. But suppressing small, annual fires in favor of some sort of natural "wilderness" ethos is a recipe for disaster.

Posted by: RS at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (E7m29)

55 So you're saying that environmentalists have always been liars? I suppose the time has finally arrived for Hollywood "personalities" to feel it too and finally acknowledge that. Maybe it's time they started wearing ribbons at awards ceremonies for proper management of forest fires.

Posted by: Decaf at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (unUNN)

56 So any news on the A Listers homes in Malibu
Cher
Barbara Streisand
Jane Fonda
anybody we love to hate?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (jQ+5q)

57 Let the rightful native owners rebuild.

==

Mexico !

--Mexico

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (g47mK)

58 >>>52 I'm just posting in the vain hope that Ace will quote my pearls of wisdom.

Quoted!

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (KRtlO)

59 26 Right now I want to talk about the fact that California's fire hydrants were bone dry during the fires, and that this is due to California permitting millions of gallons of freshwater run into the ocean every year instead of catching that precious water in cisterns and reservoirs.

==

stupid, stupid , stupid
Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (g47mK)

By Shai-Hulud, we would never be so stupid ...

Posted by: Stilgar at January 09, 2025 03:38 PM (TTAGa)

60 It was all stolen land anyway, amiright?

Let the rightful native owners rebuild.

Posted by: Just Lily

Mid-Century Miwok is one of my favorite architectural styles.

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:39 PM (77rzZ)

61 Most fish will squeeze right thru your fingers if you seize or pounce on them. One of the biggest laughs I ever gave DadA was when I Three Stooged a pike out of the live well and back into the lake. Even the fish was surprised.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2025 03:39 PM (FhXTo)

62 At least no delta smelt have been injured or otherwise inconvenienced in the current events.

Posted by: Peaches at January 09, 2025 03:39 PM (14URa)

63 45 It was all stolen land anyway, amiright?
Let the rightful native owners rebuild.
Posted by: Just Lily

Sure. Just as soon as the reparation issues are sorted out.

Maybe by 2040.

Posted by: Auspex at January 09, 2025 03:39 PM (j4U/Z)

64 My father in law used to work for the water district in the Bay Area. He said the engineers had future California wired for ample water supply from way back -- the 30s and 40s. They had the dams and reservoirs and delivery systems all staged to account for population expansion, droughts, business needs, you name it. All they had to do was implement the plan. But CA went hard left. They let the Sierra Club dictate policy, and watched Sacramento go from Willie Brown's bitch to a complete leftist stranglehold.

These failures land squarely in the laps of the democrat machine. And yet I've heard people get mad at insurance companies and Trump and every other target other than the ones actually in charge of this debacle.

Ignorant, arrogant, and incapable of self-critique, the state will continue until it all burns to the ground and people finally realize their $2M 60-year-old tract homes on postage stamp lots are worth less than a single-wide in Topeka.

Posted by: red speck at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (0Id0S)

65 >> One can have fire suppression policies or "au natural" landscape, but not both.

Not in Socal. The Flora there is dependent on fire and that is part of the reason they make such awesome fuel.

You can't live within it like they are trying to do.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (oLK8+)

66 > Everyone wants to live amidst pristine, untouched Nature until pristine, untouched Nature tries to kill you.

Monty Burns on The Simpsons had a great rant about this.

https://youtu.be/yCZ4j9Y0Jfk?t=25

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (Odg76)

67 Everybody but the media and the democrats are blaming them. They are blind.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (4780s)

68
Let the rightful native owners rebuild.

_________

A vast landscape of dilapidated trailers, broken-down cars and liquor bottles.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (R9+Vu)

69 End Wokeness @EndWokeness
Biden and Gavin Newsom recently did the largest water dam removal in U.S. history because tribal leaders said to save fish

https://tinyurl.com/5n7wy8un
1:18 minutes; period news report

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (iMpf5)

70 Newsom is a lounge Lizard greaser meatball.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (kTd/k)

71 Especially when the state of california comes to the fed asking for hundreds of billions to bail them out because of these fires.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (Rcnd3)

The answer should be “GFY”, but I’m sure Cuck Mike Johnson is drafting a bailout package right now.

I don’t want one cent of my tax dollars to go to California’s self-imposed disaster. This isn’t a natural disaster, it’s a man-made problem.

Posted by: Doc at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (JREgK)

72 I am going to guess that the cause to the fire is a homeless campfire getting out of control, since it is a forbidden topic.

Posted by: Picric at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (Cqmx8)

73 Off sock.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (JREgK)

74 Cher
Barbara Streisand
Jane Fonda

==

they will blame it on climate change and completely miss the whole "no water in reservoirs, or fire hydrants" bit..because stupid, stupid , stupid

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (g47mK)

75 Trump is under orders from his Oligarch owners to ruin any chance Newsom has of going into national office

He sees Newsom as a direct threat to his power. He has to bring Newsom down any way possible. Even during a horrific and dire widespread emergency.

DEMOCRATS, you need to hit HARDER!! The dude is an idiot and he’s making shit up to make you look bad. I don’t know if Democrats need to hire some of the comedians who were in consideration for hosting the Golden Globes, but they gotta get their act together fast and learn to rhetorically defend themselves and attack, attack, attack. Or it’s gonna be four years of increasing hell.

Trump choosing to politicize this tragedy and sh*t on California leaders is sadly not surprising. This is his typical MO. Blame the victims.

"Governor Gavin Newscum". Never mind the water restoration declaration, this is what I paid more attention to.

There is no such document as the water restoration declaration, that is pure fiction. But the media won't report that.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (ycI94)

76 How, precisely, did climate change cause this fire? What was the mechanism and series of events?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building tension with Henri-Georges Clouzot at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

77 DEI in a fire.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (YeGMU)

78 >>>70 Newsom is a lounge Lizard greaser meatball.

accurate

he is very greasy.

Posted by: ace at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (KRtlO)

79 Sooo, are the CA fires more than 0% contained yet?

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (Odg76)

80 Meet the real Karen Bass.

Michelle Maxwell@MichelleMaxwell

This is who the REAL Karen Bass is, are we actually surprised? No wonder she didn’t bother to offer an empathetic response to her constituents. She needs to be fully investigated!!

https://tinyurl.com/2dtrftpp

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (kmQ35)

81 and people finally realize their $2M 60-year-old tract homes on postage stamp lots are worth less than a single-wide in Topeka.
Posted by: red speck

Blackrock and State Street are ok with that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM (IG4Id)

82 We have Global Warming on the West Coast and Global Cooling in the Midwest/East that must be taken care of by replacing Gasoline cars with electric cars that do not work.

We must do this to protect the future of our children who graduate High School with an IQ of 70 and not know if they are Male or Female.

Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (7uGna)

83 One of the biggest laughs I ever gave DadA was when I Three Stooged a pike out of the live well and back into the lake. Even the fish was surprised.
Posted by: DaveA

What does it mean to "Three Stooge" something?

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (77rzZ)

84 I sure hope that somebody is filming all of this for the next space alien film

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (RHGPo)

85 Isn't there some chemical that is spayed from planes to put out the fires ?

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (g47mK)

86 If a species cannot abide change, what good is it? I thought the evolution believers were of the opinion that a species adapts over time to it's new environment to produce a new wing or a new tail or a new penis to mutate and survive. Still waiting for my dog to start talking.

Posted by: Zombie Chuck Darwin at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (lX1hk)

87 Adam Corolla is a smart dude but he thinks that CA voters are gonna switch to GOP after all this.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Funniest thing I heard all day.
CA voters will vote for the Dems early and often until there's nothing left in CA.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (gUzGB)

88
Smelt invaded the Great Lakes to such an extent that when they moved into the streams annually you could net thousands of them in a couple hours. Took a lot longer to slice 'em and fry 'em than catch 'em.

Posted by: Auspex at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (j4U/Z)

89 Real estate in AZ, NV, CO, TX and FL about to get a bump from more CA refugees.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (gUzGB)

90 13 Unfortunately, not one consequence will happen to those involved with creating this tremendous devastation and loss.
Posted by: Sponge
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Don't be so sure. It probably flamed out Gavin's decreasing chances to run for prezzy in 2028 and I would not be surprise to see Bass turned out. She is black in an increasingly Hispanic city of LA that have their own identity pols to bolster. Rick Caruso got as much as 46 percent of the vote in 2022 against Bass. Easy enough to see at least 5-10 percent willing to chuck Bass out in the trash for a new Dem mayor.

De Blasio's mayoralty of NYC was so disastrous that it killed his career as well for higher office.

There are consequences to failure, even among Dem strongholds, it is just that the punishment of merely losing office is not proportional to their crimes.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (ctrM5)

91 Nick Sortor @nicksortor
🚨 #BREAKING: CRITICAL communication infrastructure is on the verge of being incinerated by the Eaton Fire in Los Angeles

Most LA TV and radio stations have their antennas atop Mt. Wilson, including NBC, ABC, CBS, etc.

Today’s Starlink deliveries are now vital, as emergency comms could be heavily impacted, per CBS.

@ElonMusk announced yesterday terminals would be delivered to the area this morning to help eliminate the blackout zones.

Why wasn’t brush cleared around these areas, @GavinNewsom?

https://tinyurl.com/4x9248v9
2:26 minutes

Eric Daugherty @EricLDaugh 5h
Elon Musk is providing free Starlink in LA today. Amazing.

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (iMpf5)

92 Nope. Climate change IS the cause. Insurance will be almost impossible to get in hard hit states like California and Florida as disasters increase.

Posted by: Sid at January 09, 2025 03:31 PM

Insurance is impossible to get in california because the state regulators won't let the insurance companies charge what they need to make a profit which they are required to do under state laws.

Just so happens that the state of calfornia sells crappy home owners insurance for a ridiculous price in case you can't get regular insurance on your house.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (Rcnd3)

93 I am going to guess that the cause to the fire is a homeless campfire getting out of control, since it is a forbidden topic.
Posted by: Picric at January 09, 2025 03:40 PM (Cqmx

Maybe, but fires are a common occurrence. Sparking electric lines, cigarette butts, car accidents.

The reason it’s so bad in CA is because it’s an over-developed tinderbox with insufficient fire prevention and suppression due to enviro-Commie policies.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (JREgK)

94 >>>70 Newsom is a lounge Lizard greaser meatball.

accurate

he is very greasy.
Posted by: ace at January 09, 2025 03:41 PM

His hair gel could be water-based. (insert your own lube joke here)

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (kgE5c)

95 >>he is very greasy.

He literally Oozes.

I see him all the time.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (oLK8+)

96 That Politico article at the end actually had "Mush" when they first released it. Little angry blue HAIRED journo bashing away at their keyboard. DAMN YOU LEON MUSH!!

Posted by: banana Dream at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (Y6IkP)

97 Were here... this is why we been keeping the powder dry and reupping the gym memberships..
Cerebral ain't jack shit against Garbage men

We'er going to get medieval of your ass.
-Steve Bannon

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (jQ+5q)

98 let's see, how about $1 billion for California wildfires, and we'll just add on another $99 billion to that for Ukraine to make it an even $100

Posted by: Congress at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (jGJov)

99 The rightful owners Blackrock and Vanguard will rebuild.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (YeGMU)

100 >>One can have fire suppression policies or "au natural" landscape, but not both.

My business associate lives just south of Sydney in Oz. The east coast of Australia has similar conditions and fires too California. They also have similar "environmentalists" that refuse to clean the forests and consequently get bigger fires.

He told me that even the aborigines are telling these whack jobs they have to clear the deep brush and debris but Karen knows better.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (LkLld)

101 Dr. Zygmunt Plater, an environmental law professor at Boston College, represented the snail darter before the Supreme Court.

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Am I the only one in envisioning a snail darter sitting at the plaintiff's table?

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (RiMfV)

102 SoCal gets an avg of 4 inches of water a year.
No matter which desert you look at 4 inches is just not enough water.
Gov Brown Sr had a plan, Jr and the 'hair apparent' have screwed Socal, maybe, just maybe SoCal will figure it out before the next election.

If they had elected Garvey they could have blamed a Rep Gov!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (RMhXV)

103 >>>Let the rightful native owners rebuild.

The lefty howls would be glorious.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (i24o9)

104 79 Sooo, are the CA fires more than 0% contained yet?
Posted by: bonhomme
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They only water they have is being scooped up by airplanes in the sea. Seawater, salty seawater. It's going to burn until it burns itself out.

Seawater's not going to put it out and nothing will grow where they are salting the earth.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (kmQ35)

105 Btw O/T I just got back from Ft Lauderdale and it was great being in MAGA country for 6 days.
Now I'm back in the cold People's Republic of NJ where my idiot governor is upset with Trump because it's a day that ends in -y.
I checked out some real estate while I was in FL.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (gUzGB)

106 First comes the pouncing then the seizing I think...

Posted by: steevy at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (KQk9m)

107 The same people screaming 'don't politicize it!' are the first to yell 'gun control!' 2 seconds after a shooting. And has anyone asked those yelling 'climate change!' to please, tell us in specific detail, what climate change policies would have stopped this and how? Please be specific with your answer.

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (NT6Qv)

108 Real estate in AZ, NV, CO, TX and FL about to get a bump from more CA refugees.
Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (gUzGB)

Stay out of Tennessee. Our cannibal hillbillies eat Californians.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (JREgK)

109 If a species cannot abide change, what good is it? I thought the evolution believers were of the opinion that a species adapts over time to it's new environment to produce a new wing or a new tail or a new penis to mutate and survive. Still waiting for my dog to start talking.
Posted by: Zombie Chuck Darwin

No, that's not what they say. Sometimes species will change to adapt to changing conditions (sometimes changing into a new species), but often they don't and go extinct.

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (77rzZ)

110 People keep pointing out that you cannot stop these fires from happening, and that may be true.
You also cannot stop the Santa Anna winds from blowing.

However, forest management, or even allowing residents and municipalities to care for the wooded areas around them, could mitigate the speed and ferocity of these fires.
Add in a little water, and maybe just maybe they could get ahead of some of these blazes before they're totally out of control.

But no. Of course anyone who points out the obvious failings of obvious failures is just pouncing and seizing for political gain.

Such a joke, and such a tragedy.

btw, if someone is seen starting a fire maliciously, they should be shot on sight.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (FCbAQ)

111 The locals are gonna figure this out.

Posted by: Greasy Gavin at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (14URa)

112 I told him from the first day we met that he must "clean" his forest floors regardless of what his
bosses, the environmentalists, DEMAND of him.

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Trump is right, environmentalists are the Democrats' bosses and when they win election they must do as they are told by the greenies. Burning down Hollywood might just not have been a good move.

Posted by: Decaf at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (unUNN)

113 What I don’t get is how Newsom didn’t see where starving CA of water would:
1) create water shortages for voting residents.
2) deprive firefighters of water from fires areas where his richest constituents live
With him getting blamed for both.

If it had me, I would have devised a plan where southern CA got its water and made up some bullshit rationale where I was saving fish by doing it.
It just seems counter to Newsom’s political interests.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (jbnUc)

114 Isn't there some chemical that is spayed from planes to put out the fires ?

Posted by: runner

Yeah, and if it hasn't been banned because cancer/ecobullshit yet, it soon will be.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (OUMaO)

115 If they had reservoirs or lakes the planes could be picking up freshwater.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (kmQ35)

116 Who gives a damn about anything that Dana Bash says?

Posted by: mr tmz at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (rJ48h)

117 Human Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Flatus is the main cause of the LA wildfires according to Rep. Jerry Nadler.

Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (FDlb9)

118 Fumble comedically

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (FhXTo)

119 You know what there is no actual, scientific proof of?

The "why" behind protecting endangered plants or animals.

It's literally, "well, it's just nice to have them around."

No where near "fills a vital or essential ecological niche."

Biologically, ecologically, what would happen if the polar bears were all gone tomorrow?
Nothing

Same for every other single species under an Endangered Species Act designation.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (cnILS)

120 Time to go fishing for some delta smelt. You bring the dynamite, I’ll bring the beer.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (pieWX)

121 Here's Gavin Newsom bragging about his dam removal project, or as he says, "The largest dam removal project in US history."

http://tiny.cc/6yw4001

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (Odg76)

122 Pretty sure the media and the left are not going to be able to keep this out of the news cycle. Especially when the state of california comes to the fed asking for hundreds of billions to bail them out because of these fires.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 09, 2025 03:30 PM (Rcnd3)

No matter what the left says, all Trump has to do is re-show the video of him and Rogan on July 19 of last year.

Anything they have to say, that's the response.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (lH8E4)

123 I don't know about the cause, but the solution is definitely more DEI, tranny, and gay hires in the fire department.

They can be trained to not report on the number of fires, so that the stats look better.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (lTGtQ)

124 Good!

Shows they have learned nothing. The outrage just keeps building and building, then.

“Your Death, before their Dishonor”; they are willing to sacrifice you and yours, so they can maintain fairy tales in their head.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (B+6a4)

125 Um, you don’t need fresh water to fight a fire.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (0N/Wa)

126 Announcing you are so furious you won't even respond is responding.

Posted by: ... at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (bAusb)

127 I suspect Newsom has skin tight leather pants in his closet.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (kTd/k)

128 I noticed Trump is running Blitzkrieg maneuvers
He is expediting the shit out of this MAGA movement
Dems been running a bowel Movement

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (jQ+5q)

129 Posted by: Greasy Gavin at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (14URa)

The locals will continue to vote (D) good and hard.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (gUzGB)

130 Dr. Zygmunt Plater, an environmental law professor at Boston College, represented the snail darter before the Supreme Court.

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Am I the only one in envisioning a snail darter sitting at the plaintiff's table?

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (RiMfV)

Don't be silly. It is endangered.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (i24o9)

131 Well, all those animals are now, how you say, crispy critters.
Posted by: Peaches

What a waste of good vittles.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (7gh5G)

132 The locals are gonna figure this out.

Posted by: Greasy Gavin

If you see them erecting a guillotine on your front lawn, they've figured it out.

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (OUMaO)

133 Dr. Zygmunt Plater, an environmental law professor at Boston College, represented the snail darter before the Supreme Court.

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Am I the only one in envisioning a snail darter sitting at the plaintiff's table?
Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM

At the start of the semester, our Civ Pro prof introduced Zyg with "If you were a snail darter, this man would need no introduction".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (kgE5c)

134 Drive up and down Interstate 5 below Sacramento for the past decades and you saw big signs on big farms calling out Pelosi and environmental bullshit resulting in fallow, dried up fields, reduced food production and Delta Smelt advocacy. The chickens come home to roost, commies. What? No water to put out the fire? Try a gummie. Change your point of view.

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (QSrLX)

135 Real estate in AZ, NV, CO, TX and FL about to get a bump from more CA refugees.
Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (gUzGB)

Stay out of Tennessee. Our cannibal hillbillies eat Californians.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (JREgK)

Settle them in Little Somalia, Minnesota.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (VNX3d)

136 Burn Baby Burn............. Disco Inferno!!!!

Cackle............ Cackle............. Cackle.....

Posted by: Kamal Harris at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (FDlb9)

137 "Environmentalists" rigged the #FakeScience for political purposes,

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"TRUST THE ~~SCIENCE~~ FAUCI!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 03:47 PM (RiMfV)

138 What does it mean to "Three Stooge" something?
Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025

***
I'd guess it refers to physical comedy in their inimitable style, whether intentional or not.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (J2vNu)

139 Who gives a damn about anything that Dana Bash says?
Posted by: mr tmz at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (rJ48h)

Me!!

Posted by: Dana Bash's Dog at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (bAusb)

140 Back in the early 80's, Philadelphia Electric (PECO) was trying to build two nuclear reactors outside of Philadelphia on the Schuylkill (/ˈskuːlkɪl/ SKOOL-kil, locally /ˈskuːkəl/ SKOO-kəl) River.
They used Leslie Nielsen as their public spokesman for ads.

He had this one ad where he very disdainfully referred to ...

"but THESE!!! ENVIRONMENTALISTS"

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (RHGPo)

141 125 Um, you don’t need fresh water to fight a fire.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (0N/Wa)

You kind of do.

Let the fire burn and it's done, eventually.

Literally salt the earth, and it'll be messed up for generations.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (VoAdT)

142 Real estate in AZ, NV, CO, TX and FL about to get a bump from more CA refugees.
Posted by: Iasonas

Many of these homes were owned by the joe-everyman, the rich ones had great homes; but, now they will have nothing left to purchase their next home.
They'll be lucky to afford a tiny home near Death Valley.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (RMhXV)

143 I don't recollect cocksucker like Dana Bash thinking disasters should be depoliticized during Katrina.

Eat shit and die, media.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (QzM4s)

144 117 Human Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Flatus is the main cause of the LA wildfires according to Rep. Jerry Nadler.
Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (FDlb9)

Yeah, Nadler, yeah. *shifty eyes*

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (PiwSw)

145 Funniest thing I heard all day.
CA voters will vote for the Dems early and often until there's nothing left in CA.
Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna
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Fun fact, Caruso won about 45-46 percent against Bass in 2022 LA mayor race. He was viewed as a stealth GOP type.

LA also bounced Soros prosecutor Gascon for a non-Soros prosecutor from office pretty decisively.

And 2022 had Dems doing pretty well in local and state races and losing less than they should have in the House.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (ctrM5)

146 >>Literally salt the earth, and it'll be messed up for generations.

It's not Ag Land. You aren't tilling the soil with salt.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (oLK8+)

147 Time to go fishing for some delta smelt. You bring the dynamite, I’ll bring the beer.
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (pieWX)

Whoever delta, smelt it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (lH8E4)

148 Throw a little BBQ sauce in the water tankers. The critters are getting smoked anyways.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (FhXTo)

149 76 How, precisely, did climate change cause this fire? What was the mechanism and series of events?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, building ten

They are going to claim that global warming caused the Santa Ana's to be worse and occur more frequently just like they do with hurricanes.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (QVGsQ)

150 >>>btw, if someone is seen starting a fire maliciously, they should be shot on sight.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (FCbAQ)
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Clear the underbrush and add drip irrigation - it would be vibrant.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (kmQ35)

151 Another Eco Scam was the Spotted Owl that was endangered by logging supposedly because it could not survive without these trees.

Of course, the loggers could have designated a number of trees for these owls. But forget that.

Then people started seeing owls nesting in McDonalds signs and all sorts of other places.

And further info showed the Spotted Owls were identical to owls that live for hundreds of miles just a bit south of the area.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (n7h9X)

152 Ge who delta smelt it dealt it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (YeGMU)

153 But you know what you can guarantee if a ecological system has a vital, essential species that is endangered?

Extinction.

It's a dead-end species in a dead-end system that failed evolution.

But nothing beats the ridiculousness of trying to save the Panda Bears.
I mean, it's a lazy bear that decided it was too hard to hunt so just started eating grass instead.
Ridiculous. And a perfect mascot for that environmental org.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (cnILS)

154 It seems the cause may be arson...at least for one or more of the fires...

The fanning of the flames is all the rest of the screwed up Dem policies...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (exHjb)

155 Who sang Delta Smelt?

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (kTd/k)

156 Who gives a damn about anything that Dana Bash says?
Posted by: mr tmz at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (rJ48h)

Me!!
Posted by: Dana Bash's Dog at January 09, 2025 03:48 PM (bAusb)

And that's just because she pours gravy on her cooch every night.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (lH8E4)

157 Governor Gavin Newscum refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way.

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I love how Trump calls Gavin Newscum and then explains to a journalist that he gets along with him. I must say Newscum deserves every bit of it.

I expect these fires have burned any chance Gavin had of becoming a president. He can run but he will be Kamala-ed by any Republican candidate.

Posted by: Decaf at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (unUNN)

158 >>Um, you don’t need fresh water to fight a fire.

You don't. But you do need pumps that can handle salt water.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (LkLld)

159 Stephen L. Miller @redsteeze 8h
Reminder that Karen Bass was vetted and on Biden's shortlist for VP.

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 18m
Never pair an arsonist with dried wood.

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (iMpf5)

160 >>Many of these homes were owned by the joe-everyman, the rich ones had great homes; but, now they will have nothing left to purchase their next home.
They'll be lucky to afford a tiny home near Death Valley.

Oh, it is worse than that.

A lot of these 4-5 Million Dollar Homes are Mortgaged to the hilt for their owners to 'take advantage of their equity (GAINZ)'.

Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (oLK8+)

161 Prop 1 was passed in 2014 to increase the numbers of reservoirs in CA.
10 years later, not one is built.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (c6hLR)

162
There are consequences to failure, even among Dem strongholds, it is just that the punishment of merely losing office is not proportional to their crimes.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 03:43 PM (ctrM5)

Therefore, it's not consequence for their actions. It's merely a setback. They'll lobby or take on some other role to stuff their coffers with ill gotten gains.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (Zz0t1)

163 Exhibit A: see "The Klammath Dam Removal Project."
https://tinyurl.com/284e58bw (they removed 4 dams.)

The Klamath Dam removal project, which the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) called “the world’s largest dam removal effort”, began in July 2023 and concluded more than a year later.

“This is a monumental achievement – not just for the Klamath River but for our entire state, nation and planet,” Gavin Newsom, the California governor, said in a statement. “By taking down these outdated dams, we are giving salmon and other species a chance to thrive once again, while also restoring an essential lifeline for tribal communities who have long depended on the health of the river.” -- Gov Gavin Newsome 10/2/2024

Apparently, the dam and accompanying reservoir were an insult to both salmon and native Americans.

Posted by: front toward enemy at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (TIizU)

164 They are going to claim that global warming caused the Santa Ana's to be worse and occur more frequently just like they do with hurricanes.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (QVGsQ)

Didn't early explorers note the shores were burning? This isn't a new phenomenon

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (/6GbT)

165 Literally salt the earth, and it'll be messed up for generations.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

And then a never-ending series of dust storms and mudslides.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (IG4Id)

166 Frank Zappa summed up LA, "Where do I go for organic vaseline for my intercourse?"

Posted by: Deplorable Minion at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (QSrLX)

167 And 2022 had Dems doing pretty well in local and state races and losing less than they should have in the House.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 03:49 PM (ctrM5)

The local GOP makes the GOPe look like MAGA, and they got a month to 'find' votes for any local race they wanted to flip.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (n7h9X)

168 https://youtu.be/NBoWUv5pjnk?t=132

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (FhXTo)

169 Trump is right, environmentalists are the Democrats' bosses and when they win election they must do as they are told by the greenies. Burning down Hollywood might just not have been a good move.
Posted by: Decaf
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Some of those environmental groups have become skinsuits for foreign money that want US energy development (and other development) stymied. Places like Qatar, China, etc. are pouring money into these groups just like they are buying US universities.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (ctrM5)

170
Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 18m
Never pair an arsonist with dried wood.
Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (iMpf5)

Ah, but it's still wood, eh?

Now, where'd that little girl go?

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)

171 125 >>Um, you don’t need fresh water to fight a fire.

Do you want the nice men in their water-bombing planes to save your house from burning to ash by using plentiful seawater? Or do you insist they use nothing but Evian, lest they harm your begonias?

Posted by: red speck at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (0Id0S)

172 158 >>Um, you don’t need fresh water to fight a fire.
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And you don't salt the earth to make things grow.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (kmQ35)

173 85 Isn't there some chemical that is spayed from planes to put out the fires ?
Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (g47mK)

Yes and I haven't seen video of them doing drops of the orange Phos check and I'm not sure why.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (QVGsQ)

174 Apparently, the dam and accompanying reservoir were an insult to both salmon and native Americans.
Posted by: front toward enemy at January 09, 2025 03:51 PM (TIizU)

They could have built the casino over the dam like their ancestors did.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (n7h9X)

175 Oh, it is worse than that.

A lot of these 4-5 Million Dollar Homes are Mortgaged to the hilt for their owners to 'take advantage of their equity (GAINZ)'.

Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.

Want to bet the tax valuations on those properties won't change? They'll still be paying the same taxes even though their property is worth a bit less than it used to be.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (Odg76)

176
Enviros hate the logging industry because trees are beautiful and majestic, and cutting them down is like Hitler

they hate the oil industry because look at those poor ducks covered in oil!

they hate dams because fish must run free

they hate nuclear power because did you see The China Syndrome ? I did and it scared the shit out of America!

how do you argue with that
how to be reasonable

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (AOsQT)

177 >>Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (n7h9X)

Mt Graham had a squirrel like that.

Millions spent studying to find that it was your average pine squirrel and that its highest mortality was caused by the increased traffic from 'Activists' climbing the mountain in vehicles, to save it.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (oLK8+)

178 what would happen if the polar bears were all gone tomorrow?

Bears are an apex predator so they're prey animals would boom and bust from disease.

Posted by: DaveA at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (FhXTo)

179 My money is also on this shit getting it's start by some "unhoused" assholes. It usually is.

Posted by: Peaches at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (14URa)

180
And you don't salt the earth to make things grow.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (kmQ35)

Meaning, they won't be able to grow shit in the areas where they're dumping thousands of gallons of ocean water to contain the blaze for a while......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

181 Leftists: Its Shrub's fault a hurricane hit NOLA. He's the president nothing else matters. He should have personally moved the hurricane away or banned global warming something

Also Leftists: It isn't Biden, Newsom, or local Dem's fault that wildfires hit CA and the state wasn't prepared. Its, uh, global warming's fault. And Biden is only president, its not like he could have done anything about global warming.

Bonus Future Leftists: Its Trump's fault that [weather incident] happened. He's the president nothing else matters. He should have personally [done something stupid] or banned global warming something

Posted by: 18-1 at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (t0Rmr)

182 121 Here's Gavin Newsom bragging about his dam removal project, or as he says, "The largest dam removal project in US history."

http://tiny.cc/6yw4001
Posted by: bonhomme
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I used to work with a lot of environmentalists. They loved this shit. They used to lament the loss of the Hetch Hetchy valley. I never understood this - they all lived on the peninsula and all their water came from that valley. It was like they could not connect cause and effect. OK, we blow up all the dams. Then what? Oh, we desalinate! OK, but we already closed all the power plants so how do we do that?
Gray Davis had us on rolling blackouts. I used to laugh and laugh when our district would get shut down for a couple hours -- it was insane, I was living in an insane world run by the stupidest people on Earth. That is why I hated CA. I could write a book about all the nonsense I saw there.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (7gh5G)

183 Salting the earth is just a saying. It doesn’t kill plants forever. Some plants can grow right in seawater. Either way. The salt would run off with the rainwater. You would need tons and tons of salt per acre for it to even work. And in Roman times salt was way too valuable for that.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (0N/Wa)

184 The local GOP makes the GOPe look like MAGA, and they got a month to 'find' votes for any local race they wanted to flip.
Posted by: Oldcat

That is the trick, you don't run, like Caruso, as a GOP member. Run as a 'reasonable' Democrat.

If the rank and file GOP voters were smart, they would create a CA state party and simply let the moderate/liberal donor driven GOPe party sink.

Stay out of national politics except on the down low and focus on state and local elections.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (ctrM5)

185 Burn it down and salt the earth where it stood all in one step.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (YeGMU)

186 173 85 Isn't there some chemical that is spayed from planes to put out the fires ?
Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (g47mK)

Yes and I haven't seen video of them doing drops of the orange Phos check and I'm not sure why.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (QVGsQ)

It's California, so I'm half surprised that they didn't drop White Phosphorus.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 03:54 PM (VNX3d)

187 Trump was filmed yucking it up at Jimmay Cartier's memorial service with wait for it.. Bracak Obama. Oblowme was actually laughing...
Mooch was assigned to sit next to Trump she was a fat no show.
Karen Pence snubbed a Trump greeting while Mike Penance feigned a small smile stood up and shook Trumps hand limp wristed.

The Goracle (Al Gore) jump out of his seat and lunger toward Trump to shake his hand...
Slick willy was slicked out not giving a poo poo smiling prolly laughing at Cankles who sat next to him wwith a puss on her face lookin all tense and an overtightened fanbelt with bug eyes, Jimmay Cartier could not be reached for comment.

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (jQ+5q)

188 Trump should trade CA to Denmark for Greenland.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (gUzGB)

189 Oh, it is worse than that.

A lot of these 4-5 Million Dollar Homes are Mortgaged to the hilt for their owners to 'take advantage of their equity (GAINZ)'.

Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (oLK8+)

Something tells me taxpayers are going to be paying those mortgages. One way or another.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (lH8E4)

190
Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.

Remember former Trophy wives, we are always hiring! So...moisturize those feet and give us a try!

Posted by: Only Fans at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (t0Rmr)

191 Human Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Flatus is the main cause of the LA wildfires according to Rep. Jerry Nadler.
Posted by: Karine Jean-Pierre at January 09, 2025 03:46 PM (FDlb9)

That *wasn’t* a fart.

Posted by: Jerry Nadler's Tightie Formerly-whities at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (JREgK)

192 Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (oLK8+)

The tater still has 11 more days to "forgive" those loans, garrett.

Posted by: Peaches at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (14URa)

193 175 Oh, it is worse than that.

A lot of these 4-5 Million Dollar Homes are Mortgaged to the hilt for their owners to 'take advantage of their equity (GAINZ)'.

Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.

Want to bet the tax valuations on those properties won't change? They'll still be paying the same taxes even though their property is worth a bit less than it used to be.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (Odg76)

No, if they rebuild, they will SKYROCKET - all these homes took advantage of not getting reassessed since they were bought...but apparently, a rebuild will bring a reassess...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (exHjb)

194 Um, you don’t need fresh water to fight a fire.
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And you don't salt the earth to make things grow.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (kmQ35)

You don't WANT plants growing back in fire areas.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (n7h9X)

195 >>Salting the earth is just a saying. It doesn’t kill plants forever. Some plants can grow right in seawater. Either way. The salt would run off with the rainwater. You would need tons and tons of salt per acre for it to even work. And in Roman times salt was way too valuable for that.

Most will land on pavement and runoff. Because it's suburbia.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (oLK8+)

196 Wildfire is scary as shit.
Another one of those terrifying things that modern life has insulated us from.

Most have no idea that cozy little flame in their fireplace can take their whole house in less than 30 minutes.
The firetrucks get there not to save your house--to save your neighbor's houses from going as well.

If you want a good example of how fast a fire in your house would be, set your Christmas tree on fire.
Do it in a safe area, have plenty of room.
You won't be able to stand within 20 feet of it.
That's one, little tree.
Now multiply it geometrically.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (cnILS)

197 Impoundments pull water tables up and reduce the effects of drought years.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM (oLK8+)

The Central Valley water tables are the lowest in history, and the land itself is sinking because of these insane policies.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2025 03:56 PM (d9fT1)

198 Here's another important question:

Of that $7.5B water bond that was passed in 2014, how much of it was spent and on what? We know that not a single water storage facility was built. So where did the money go?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 09, 2025 03:56 PM (iFTx/)

199 Spotted owls killed the lumber industry around here.
They were suuuuuper important.
Haven't heard a word about them since.

Posted by: 29Victor at January 09, 2025 03:56 PM (TL7UX)

200 Of that $7.5B water bond that was passed in 2014, how much of it was spent and on what? We know that not a single water storage facility was built. So where did the money go?

Its like Biden's funding for EV chargers or Obama's funding of "rural internet". The "right" people got paid and that's all that matters...

Posted by: Only Fans at January 09, 2025 03:56 PM (t0Rmr)

201 >>Something tells me taxpayers are going to be paying those mortgages. One way or another.

Mortgages.

Second Mortgages.

HELOCs.

It's gonna be a shitshow.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (oLK8+)

202 200 Spotted owls killed the lumber industry around here.
They were suuuuuper important.
Haven't heard a word about them since.
Posted by: 29Victor at January 09, 2025 03:56 PM (TL7UX)

Who?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (VoAdT)

203 No, if they rebuild, they will SKYROCKET - all these homes took advantage of not getting reassessed since they were bought...but apparently, a rebuild will bring a reassess...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (exHjb)

Most of the high price houses you see have been reassessed recently. Prop 13 only helps people who don't move.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (n7h9X)

204 Andrew D. Huberman, Ph.D. @hubermanlab

People are lighting fires in otherwise non-burning urban areas of LA. Saw this happen first hand at 302 Pico in Santa Monica. Called it in & fire dept & police responded. Stay safe and call in any activity ASAP. We don’t need more flames out here.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (kmQ35)

205 Can't they do a controlled burn in front of the fire?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (YeGMU)

206 Water Bond..lol. I can guess where the money went. Not on water.

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (g47mK)

207 A lot of these 4-5 Million Dollar Homes are Mortgaged to the hilt for their owners to 'take advantage of their equity (GAINZ)'.

Those Loans are still gonna need payin'.
Posted by: garrett
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I thought all loans required full insurance coverage of the property.

The people who are gonna be naked are the ones without loans.
Ah, the state will bail them out somehow -- they are connected and they always get bailed out.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (7gh5G)

208 Who?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (VoAdT)

Not this shit again.

Posted by: Some Barn Mouse at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (t0Rmr)

209 Yes and I haven't seen video of them doing drops of the orange Phos check and I'm not sure why.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (QVGsQ)

I think it's because the winds were so ferocious, it wouldn't have gone where it needed to go.

Posted by: Peaches at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (14URa)

210 Newsome's hair ignited a grease fire that is consuming Kali. Note he is now wearing a baseball cap on TV. It's a cover up!

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (wBaIH)

211 If you follow that one story above:

Have no Prop. 1 water projects been built in California? No, but they are moving slowly
By George Skelton
Capitol Journal Columnist
Jan. 19, 2023 5 AM PT

SACRAMENTO — California voters approved a ballyhooed $7.5-billion bond issue eight-plus years ago thinking the state would build dams and other vital water facilities. But it hasn’t built zilch. True or false?

That’s the rap: The voters were taken. The state can’t get its act together.

Republicans and agriculture interests in particular make that charge, but the complaint also is widespread throughout the state.

https://tinyurl.com/4t6e4y7y

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (5ZASI)

212 Patrick T. Brown @PatrickTBrown31
Ph.D. climate scientist. Co-director, Climate & Energy @TheBTI Adjunct faculty (lecturer) in Energy Policy & Climate @JohnsHopkins

Patrick T. Brown @PatrickTBrown31 21h
There are major fires burning in and around the Los Angeles metro area this week, causing tragic loss of life and property.

What are the primary drivers of these events and their consequences? What is the impact of climate change and fuel (vegetation and, in this case, structures), and how can we best mitigate this kind of fire danger?

Fire danger is a product of meteorological and fuel conditions. You also need an ignition.

Meteorology
These fires are being driven by a particularly intense Santa Ana wind event with gusts over 80 mph in many locations.

Santa Ana winds are a part of LA climate, and there is little evidence that climate change will make them worse. If anything, we expect Santa Ana winds to become less intense/frequent as the climate changes

https://tinyurl.com/2pb9hds6
not ALL full of it

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (iMpf5)

213
they hate the oil industry because look at those poor ducks covered in oil!

We have plenty of Dawn dishwahing liquid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 09, 2025 03:58 PM (63Dwl)

214 Trump should relocate all leftist Canadians to California and call it New Trudeauland and in return we get Canada.
We can keep the Canadian farmers who have rifles.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:58 PM (gUzGB)

215 Damn, went through many a bottle of baby oil in some of them houses burned down!

Posted by: P Diddy at January 09, 2025 03:58 PM (gNakx)

216 They are children.

They can’t respond to Trump because they think they can will their reality into existence.

It would be funny if they weren’t killing real people, destroying real property and wildlife with this insane DEI, Ukraine, fantasy BS.

These are not fun jobs, they require dedicated, resourceful and brave people who put saving lives ahead of everything else. FFS, I can’t even tell if the three LAFD people - the chief and heads of DEI and HR are women or men in drag. No wait - they are clowns.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2025 03:58 PM (Hkcdp)

217 Of that $7.5B water bond that was passed in 2014, how much of it was spent and on what? We know that not a single water storage facility was built. So where did the money go?

Its like Biden's funding for EV chargers or Obama's funding of "rural internet". The "right" people got paid and that's all that matters...
Posted by: Only Fans at January 09, 2025 03:56 PM (t0Rmr)

They probably have a fully staffed planning board with lots of travel to Ghana. Like the high speed rail to nowhere they have now.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (n7h9X)

218 Check out this giant DEI fireperson

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/
1877458240050446339

"Am I able to carry your husband out of a fire? He got himself in the wrong place."

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (AOsQT)

219 > Of that $7.5B water bond that was passed in 2014, how much of it was spent and on what? We know that not a single water storage facility was built. So where did the money go?

Environmental impact studies, EPA bureaucrats' bank accounts, environmentalists bank accounts, lawyers bank account, and Hamas.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (Odg76)

220 If SoCal rebuilds tradesmen will make a killing.

Posted by: mr tmz at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (rJ48h)

221 The only fire panic I personally lived thru was following the Loma Prieta 'quake. There was thick smoke everywhere but, the air was still, there was little or no breeze. We knew there was fire but didn't even know which direction to flee.
Only later we learned it was the Marina district.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (c6hLR)

222 203 No, if they rebuild, they will SKYROCKET - all these homes took advantage of not getting reassessed since they were bought...but apparently, a rebuild will bring a reassess...
Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (exHjb)

Most of the high price houses you see have been reassessed recently. Prop 13 only helps people who don't move.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:57 PM (n7h9X)

Real estate has SKYROCKETED, even since 2020. No one will be immune to that reassess...

Remember, in inflation, you bury assets in real property...so all these houses have been held a few years and will be looking at much bigger tax bills after rebuild (b/c CA allows a reassess on a rebuild if you don't have one standing wall left)...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (exHjb)

223 Let's just assume for argument's sake that global warming is causing these fires then why aren't authorities doing everything in their power to prevent them by any means necessary? Why are authorities leaving everything to nature? Isn't this why they collect taxes, to keep people and properties safe?

Hell yes, the government, that is Gavin and the mayors, is to blame.

Posted by: Decaf at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (unUNN)

224
Want to bet the tax valuations on those properties won't change? They'll still be paying the same taxes even though their property is worth a bit less than it used to be.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 03:53 PM (Odg76)

The hurricane victims in NC had to pay full tax value for their homes that no longer existed. Because law.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (Zz0t1)

225 >>I thought all loans required full insurance coverage of the property.

At the time of the onset of the obligation, sure.

But. Most of these homes lost their Insurance in the last Year and a half...and I doubt they self-reported this.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (oLK8+)

226 Trump should trade CA to China in exchange for Hong Kong and permanent US protective status for Taiwan.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 04:00 PM (gUzGB)

227 “You also need an ignition.”

Uh, fancy word to hand wave away ARSON???

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2025 04:00 PM (Hkcdp)

228 Santa Ana winds are a part of LA climate, and there is little evidence that climate change will make them worse. If anything, we expect Santa Ana winds to become less intense/frequent as the climate changes

https://tinyurl.com/2pb9hds6
not ALL full of it
Posted by: andycanuck

BURN THE WITCH!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:00 PM (5ZASI)

229 they hate the oil industry because look at those poor ducks covered in oil!

We have plenty of Dawn dishwahing liquid.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 09, 2025 03:58 PM (63Dwl)

need to make ducks that eat oil.

I remember a study of the expensive oil cleanup of beaches. Turns out doing nothing was far better, the oil chunked up into tar and sank and was suctioned out to sea.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:00 PM (n7h9X)

230 Ducks actually love oil. Like Vietnamese and napalm. Can't get enough of the stuff.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:01 PM (QzM4s)

231 >>I used to work with a lot of environmentalists. They loved this shit. They used to lament the loss of the Hetch Hetchy valley. I never understood this - they all lived on the peninsula and all their water came from that valley. It was like they could not connect cause and effect. OK, we blow up all the dams. Then what?

I remember several years back there was a drought in California. My CA-based coworkers were going on about global warming. I was like “Well, what do you expect? You live in a desert.” They were shocked by this revelation. Water comes out of the faucet, how can it be a desert?

And these were well-educated professionals.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 04:01 PM (JREgK)

232 Dana, Dana, Dana, why the long face?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2025 04:01 PM (RLc6v)

233 Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 04:01 PM (JREgK)

Well-indoctrinated you mean.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (gUzGB)

234 Check out this giant DEI fireperson

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/
1877458240050446339

"Am I able to carry your husband out of a fire? He got himself in the wrong place."
Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (AOsQT)

That mentality right there tells everyone you should NOT be a firefighter. Very seldom do people trapped in or requiring assistance to vacate a burning building put THEMSELVES in the wrong place. What a piece of shit that bulldyke is.

Maybe a fire will come along and YOU'LL need carrying out, yet there's not a brigade big enough to lift your fat ass.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)

235
Yes and I haven't seen video of them doing drops of the orange Phos check and I'm not sure why.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 03:52 PM (QVGsQ)

I'd guess either they sent it all to Ukraine or environmental regs don't allow it, even though my National Forest town was saved using it.

Prolly not allowed in CA because of the Cancer warnings in the label or something.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (RLLZj)

236 Look, the locals are gonna figure this out. What we need to focus on right now is federal money for High Speed Rail. Because how else is anybody gonna get from Bakersfield to Merced??

Posted by: Greasy Gavin at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (14URa)

237 Calli has sent out notices the property taxes are still do and propertied need to be cleaned up pronto if not heavy fine will be imposed due to Calis environmental laws.
Usually these types of fine accrue and if not paid entitles the stats to sell your property at auction on the courthouse steps.
With Allstate pulling out it it rubber hits the road time and the poseurs will be revealed. Trump loves to buy distressed properties.. Just saying that is his#1 forte...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (jQ+5q)

238 Are the environmental nutters bitching about the forests and global warming the same nutters who want to kill 1 million Spotted Owls to "save" some other species of owl?

About all that...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (Q4IgG)

239 Everytime I hear the Delta Smelt I think he who smelt it dealt it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (RLc6v)

240 I thought all loans required full insurance coverage of the property.

At the time of the onset of the obligation, sure.

But. Most of these homes lost their Insurance in the last Year and a half...and I doubt they self-reported this.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (oLK8+)
_________

The lender should get notice of any insurance cancellation directly from the insurer. But the lender doesn't have many options at that point -- basically foreclosure -- so in many instances the lender will look the other way.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (iFTx/)

241 THE FIRE GOD IS ANGRY

WE MUST APPEASE THEY/THEM WITH HIGH SPEED RAIL AND SOY LATTEES

Posted by: The Left at January 09, 2025 04:02 PM (jGJov)

242 Trump should give CA back to Mexico in exchange for a battalion's worth of hot Latinas.

Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 04:03 PM (gUzGB)

243 If SoCal rebuilds tradesmen will make a killing.
Posted by: mr tmz

Que?
No habla englais.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:03 PM (5ZASI)

244 A lot of the stuff that goes on here is basically sheer incompetence as well. There’s a huge reservoir near where I live in Southern California that they have been dicking around with fixing for the past three years. Meanwhile, the last two winters there was an abundance of rain where they could’ve filled it right to the top, but They were still dicking around with fixing it so all that water went out to the ocean.
Oh, yeah, and when I drive past that every few weeks, I never see a single soul working on it.

Posted by: keena at January 09, 2025 04:03 PM (RiTnx)

245 >>The lender should get notice of any insurance cancellation directly from the insurer. But the lender doesn't have many options at that point -- basically foreclosure -- so in many instances the lender will look the other way.

My point was that the people that lost their homes aren't going to be able to service the loan obligations of their previous homes, let alone rebuild/relocate.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 04:03 PM (oLK8+)

246 ...
How did the smelt become more important than the lives of human beings?
...
Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM

I've been pondering that myself. I've come to the conclusion that it is merely a different facet of the Commie 's anti-human, demonic bull$h!t. They make a fetish of "pristine nature." Thus, no efforts to mitigate dead/dry brush/trees, store more water, etc. That works until it doesn't.

But people that gleefully kill unborn babies, castrate boys, lop the breast off girls, and turn a blind-eye to migrants murdering women are not going to be concerned about people getting killed and burnt-out of their homes due to wild fires.

Commies do not grant that human beings have any innate value. This is obviously a spiritual battle. That's why economic and utilitarian arguments fail to dissuade Commies.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (pJWtt)

247 >SACRAMENTO — California voters approved a ballyhooed $7.5-billion bond issue eight-plus years ago thinking the state would...

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hold it right there!
how do we know it was ballyhooed?

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (AOsQT)

248 We need common sense Godzilla control.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (L/fGl)

249 I bet some of the Hollywood bigwigs are a little happy for the fires. A lot of evidence going up in smoke.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (0N/Wa)

250 95 >>he is very greasy.

He literally Oozes.

I see him all the time.

Posted by: garrett

Mix things up with unctuous and oleaginous!

Posted by: Mr. Thesaurus at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (ycI94)

251 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.

Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)

252
I would not be surprise to see Bass turned out.

Posted by: whig

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Bass entered office in January 2023 and has another two years to change the subject. When she runs for re-election, she will cite her "brave leadership" in "getting Los Angeles through" this "sad, tragic disaster."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at January 09, 2025 04:05 PM (I87yH)

253 At least there hasn't been an earthquake in a while.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 09, 2025 04:05 PM (YeGMU)

254 Am I able to carry your husband out of a fire? He got himself in the wrong place."
Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (AOsQT)

How very DARE he live in his own home while it's on fire! People that dumb prolly deserve to burn, amiright!?

Posted by: Just Lily at January 09, 2025 04:05 PM (RLLZj)

255 Santa Anas have nothing to do with Global Warming, its just high pressure air piling up inland in the mountain ranges and pouring down to the coast.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:05 PM (n7h9X)

256 FFS, I can’t even tell if the three LAFD people - the chief and heads of DEI and HR are women or men in drag. No wait - they are clowns.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2025 03:58 PM (Hkcdp)

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I guessed A Lesbo and Two Trannies.

Looks and sounds like they should have a Pep Boys franchise ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 04:05 PM (RiMfV)

257 Roughly 20 billion in funding for new water projects was passed a decade ago or so. (I voted against the measure because I knew the money would never be allocated)

Guess what? 20 billion dollars that, as near as I can tell, was spent, but not for new water storage or water projects.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

258 At the time of the onset of the obligation, sure.

But. Most of these homes lost their Insurance in the last Year and a half...and I doubt they self-reported this.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (oLK8+)

Something fishy (heh) going on with this insurance cancellation thing. Somebody could look into this, and they might find the insurance companies bugged out, due to the state refusing to implement fire mitigation, and the state just basically let them get away with it.

I know you can't force insurers to insure people, but I'm guessing there were some shenanigans in there somewhere.

As with other parts of our "society," if you believe you have cause to hate insurance companies, you probably don't hate them enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (lH8E4)

259
I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley

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Google "California fire debt" for serious explanations of forest management.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (I87yH)

260 Wasn't is Cali that drained the reservoir 'cause of the video of some idiot pissing in it?

There was something like that, right, where they drained a reservoir for some gigantically stupid reason?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (cnILS)

261 There is another problem in CA.

If there is ever an earthquake in the hills when the soil is saturated, half those hills will slump and kill thousands. The worst I saw was East of San Diego where they cut the tops off the hills and built on them, but mostly on reclaimed land from the bit they cut off. But LA, the hills up North,... all over the state. All it needs is the right timing and they will all slide.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (7gh5G)

262 LAFD Assistant Chief Kristine Larson addressing the obvious and likely hypothetical where she might have to carry a man out of a building fire:

"He got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire."

http://tiny.cc/60x4001

This is why you have to pay attention to local politics. This fat, weak moron basically said, "Sucks to be you if you're caught in a fire and you weigh more than 120lbs" on a produced video and she kept her job as an assistant fire chief in a major city.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (Odg76)

263 But. Most of these homes lost their Insurance in the last Year and a half...and I doubt they self-reported this.

Posted by: garrett
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Lenders are notified if the insurance policy lapses directly by the insurance company usually because they require escrow accounts to pay for it along with local property taxes.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (ctrM5)

264 How did the smelt become more important than the lives of human beings?
__________________

Maybe they vote Democrat more reliably?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (YqDXo)

265 The manpower does exist. You offer prisoners early release in exchange for working.
This is already done on fire lines.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (c6hLR)

266 257 Roughly 20 billion in funding for new water projects was passed a decade ago or so. (I voted against the measure because I knew the money would never be allocated)

Guess what? 20 billion dollars that, as near as I can tell, was spent, but not for new water storage or water projects.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

Well, first you have to spend a few decades making sure homely lesbians are in charge of everything. So that the policy gets implemented right.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (QzM4s)

267 Santa Ana winds are a part of LA climate, and there is little evidence that climate change will make them worse. If anything, we expect Santa Ana winds to become less intense/frequent as the climate changes

It's a f*cking DESERT.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

268 Guess what? 20 billion dollars that, as near as I can tell, was spent, but not for new water storage or water projects.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (tT6L1)

Taps chin - if only there was an organization that could ask questions about this

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 09, 2025 04:07 PM (/6GbT)

269 Change the fish name to Animal House fish.

You fucked up. You trusted us.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at January 09, 2025 04:08 PM (+Pqmf)

270 225 >>I thought all loans required full insurance coverage of the property.

At the time of the onset of the obligation, sure.

But. Most of these homes lost their Insurance in the last Year and a half...and I doubt they self-reported this.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:59 PM (oLK8+)

The insurance companies are nice enough to notify your mortgage company for you.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 04:08 PM (QVGsQ)

271 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley

*cough 11 million illegals cough*

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:08 PM (5ZASI)

272 It’s mostly the power lines you have to worry about, Homeowners/ property owners are responsible for their properties. The govt only enforces codes for the most part.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 09, 2025 04:08 PM (0N/Wa)

273 Media Insists We Are Not Permitted to Talk About the Causes of the Inferno
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Because there are 3 things they like.

1. Censorship
2. Democrats
3. Censorship

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:08 PM (krQz2)

274
Google "California fire debt" for serious explanations of forest management.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at January 09, 2025 04:06 PM (I87yH)

Don't google anything. Choose any other search engine. google hates you and wants you dead. Stop feeding your own demise.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (Zz0t1)

275 >>he is very greasy.

Isn't he a sion of one of the old California families that made their fortunes in petroleum?

Oil is in his blood, so to speak.

Posted by: Just Lily at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (RLLZj)

276 Good news a few dams that way are being blown up to bring the salmon back. Injuns won that round. Starlink will save the communication day. Fire is heading to Wilson commutation towers. I just pray for the average citizen. Must be shocking and just sad.

Posted by: Halito at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (Uu9+1)

277 Ima buy a food truck and haul ass to Cali

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (jQ+5q)

278 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)
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Utility companies used to cut back brush from their power line right of ways regularly. They also maintained access roads to their equipment.

This sensible policy was ended several years ago, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (tT6L1)

279 A common scam for a time by lenders was to declare they had not received the confirmation of continuing homeowner coverage of insurance and then automatically putting their own pet insurance affiliated companies in (at a nose bleed rate) in place of the homeowner's preferred one. Citibank was bad about that among other monster mega bank lenders.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (ctrM5)

280 Dana, Dana, Dana, why the long face?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2025 04:01 PM (RLc6v)

Never. Gets. Old.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (lH8E4)

281 Trump's been telling California to stop wasting its limited supply of water -- and noting that California is causing wildfires by wasting water -- since at least as early as 2019. He also slammed Newsom for failing to clear forested areas of deadfall, which of course is the kindling that sets woods on fire.
___________________

Another huge factor: fire caused by vagrants, either intentionally setting fires (one happened right near us) or accidentally when they start campfires/cooking fires.

A local cop vigorously confirmed this problem when I wondered aloud if this were the case.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (YqDXo)

282 We may be neglecting the most important issue to come out of this tragedy: Why does every lesbian in public life look like Peter Griffin?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (QzM4s)

283 >>I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley

You'd think that...but take a look at the budgets and spending for the Wildlands.

Logging Leases are a deferment of a lot of this as well. Part of a Logging Contract is thinning, clearing and reclamation.
Logging also provides roadways which can act as fire lines / breaks for when fires do pop up.

But Logging is teh Evils.

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (oLK8+)

284 Media Insists We Are Not Permitted to Talk About the Causes of the Inferno
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IT'S THE WIND!! IT'S ALL THE WIND!!!

Posted by: DNC Spin at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (krQz2)

285 Ima buy a food truck and haul ass to Cali
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (jQ+5q)

Good luck getting the required permit to actually sell anything, much less food.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:10 PM (Zz0t1)

286 The manpower does exist. You offer prisoners early release in exchange for working.

This is already done on fire lines.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

They even made a tv show about it.
Fire Country.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:10 PM (5ZASI)

287 I guessed A Lesbo and Two Trannies.

Looks and sounds like they should have a Pep Boys franchise ...

TransMannie, Morph and Dyke

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 09, 2025 04:10 PM (wtvvX)

288 We finally got snow in my area of okieland.

Posted by: Halito at January 09, 2025 04:10 PM (Uu9+1)

289 It's tempting to try to point to root causes and if there is one root cause, I think it's that government no longer sees itself as servant to the people. If it did, then protection of life and property would be the highest priority. Instead, the 'environment' takes precedence - so you can't have controlled burns, you can't pick up dead fall, you let rainwater runoff into the ocean, you don't build water storage or transportation facilities.....

Note - these wildfires are all in canyons which act as funnels for wind and fire. As soon as the canyon opens up onto flat land wind speed decreases and fire becomes much easier to fight.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:10 PM (QGaXH)

290 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
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It really is a thing that exists; controlled burns.

The Lodgepole pine seeds won't even sprout unless the shell had been cracked by temps above like 200 degrees, e.g. via fire.

Also, the Eastern seaboard was reportedly more like a dense park than the over-grown tangle of underbrush we know today.
Because of regular burns set by ... men.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (cnILS)

291 If you want a good example of how fast a fire in your house would be, set your Christmas tree on fire.
Do it in a safe area, have plenty of room.
You won't be able to stand within 20 feet of it.
That's one, little tree.
Now multiply it geometrically.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (cnILS)

I spent a little less than 2 years on a volunteer fire dept. We had a furniture store fire one night. Holy shit it was the hottest thing I ever experienced. Cars parked across the street from the building were catching fire and exploding. You couldn't stand within 100 feet of that building. When we went to tap the hydrant it was seized, so another pumper truck tapped a hydrant farther down the street and ran the hoses up to the main truck which was operating off its 1200 gallon capacity for the time being. Didn't matter. The building went from a decent fire to totally engulfed in minutes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (VwHCD)

292 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)

That's what they mean. Fires here each year can run for even 25 miles in uninhabited areas in the hills if they don't threaten anything without any fuss. There was one like that in my area and the Reagan library 10-15 years back. only when it jumped the range and burned close to homes did they have to fight back hard to save property. I think an outbuilding was burned.

Was kind of spooky seeing the fires spread from well E to across the north view to far to the West of me, but aside from one incursion right at my area it was safe enough,

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (n7h9X)

293 I'm old enough to remember that a natural disaster striking an area meant that that area was being judged for voting wrong.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (uhZAA)

294 Good luck getting the required permit to actually sell anything, much less food.
Posted by: Sponge

Que?
No habla englais.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (5ZASI)

295 YELBURTON:
Mr. Gittes! That's an outrageous
accusation. I don't know what you're
talking about.

GITTES
Well, Whitey Mehrholtz over at the
Times will. Dumping thousands of
gallons of water down the toilet in
the middle of a drought -- that's
news.

Posted by: front toward enemy at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (TIizU)

296 How do you like "regime change" now, D's? California, Panama, Greenland, Canada, France, Germany, England...

should I go on?

Posted by: t-bird at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (l5F6b)

297 I grew up experiencing the Santa Ana winds. This was back when we were all gonna die from a new ice age.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (tT6L1)

298 251 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM

You allow logging in forests would help and it costs the state nothing.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (QVGsQ)

299 You don't WANT plants growing back in fire areas.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (n7h9X)

Then you end up with landslides.

Idiotic enviro-Commie policies aside, this area is too over-developed to be safe from fire. Stick-built houses that are made of sawdust and glue, built right on top of each other up the sides of steep hills (fire loves to move up hills) that need the flammable chaparral to keep the soil from washing away.. it’s idiocy.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (JREgK)

300 Something fishy (heh) going on with this insurance cancellation thing. Somebody could look into this, and they might find the insurance companies bugged out, due to the state refusing to implement fire mitigation, and the state just basically let them get away with it.
...
As with other parts of our "society," if you believe you have cause to hate insurance companies, you probably don't hate them enough.
__________________

Not the fault of the insurance companies. They've been hit with massive liabilities from previous wildfires, but the state insurance commissioner wouldn't allow them to raise rates to offset the losses. So they pulled out.

Blame the state, not the insurance companies.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (YqDXo)

301 >>The insurance companies are nice enough to notify your mortgage company for you.

How in the hell has CA been dealing with this recent round of Insurance Cancellation?

Surely these homes are not all paid for...not in these times.

Are the Mortgage Holders just YOLOing it?

Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (oLK8+)

302 Something fishy (heh) going on with this insurance cancellation thing. Somebody could look into this, and they might find the insurance companies bugged out, due to the state refusing to implement fire mitigation, and the state just basically let them get away with it.

I know you can't force insurers to insure people, but I'm guessing there were some shenanigans in there somewhere.

As with other parts of our "society," if you believe you have cause to hate insurance companies, you probably don't hate them enough.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Not really, due to political pressure, "SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara today announced the final major step in his Sustainable Insurance Strategy, issuing a historic regulation aimed at restoring stability to California’s insurance market while addressing the growing risks of wildfires and climate change. The new Net Cost of Reinsurance in Ratemaking Regulation requires insurance companies — for the first time — to increase coverage in high-risk areas, ensuring more options for Californians while limiting the costs passed on to consumers. " . Thus exit occurs.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (ctrM5)

303 Also, the Eastern seaboard was reportedly more like a dense park than the over-grown tangle of underbrush we know today.
Because of regular burns set by ... men.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (cnILS)

Also pigs and other wildlife will kill sprouts and young brush if there are enough of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (n7h9X)

304 I'm putting money that it was started at a homeless camp. I've read that three of the firesseem to have started in the same area.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (NQtI0)

305 Why does every lesbian in public life look like Peter Griffin?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (QzM4s)

Do they walk around doing this?

https://youtu.be/_qfMIhV1UJE

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (Zz0t1)

306 So who has burnt out more square miles of a city?

Gavin Newsom or Curtis LeMay?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (3NsUs)

307 Well...back from running errands and just as I was pulling in, the voice on the radio informed me that if I blame the fires on poor resource and forest management, then I am a member of a vast right wing conspiracy against climate change.
I wnder...do I get a membership card too?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (W/lyH)

308 John A Konrad V @johnkonrad
CEO @gCaptain Maritime News, ship captain, author of Fire On The Horizon and cofounder @UnofficialNet - Blacklisted by Wikipedia - K5HIP; Great Barrington, MA

@amuse @amuse 8h
DEI: LA Department of Water and Power CEO Janisse Quinones makes $750,000 per year. Listen to her explain how LA ran out of water. One job…
Jan 9, 2025 · 2:11 PM UTC

John A Konrad V @johnkonrad 6h
She is a 20 year USCG Veteran and should understand the importance of marine pumping to refill fire department water supplies.

This topic is a MAJOR pet peeve of mine.

Let’s explore how California and Hawaii have utterly failed to use the natural resource we have: salt water. 🧵

I have been relentless in my anger towards San Diego and the US Navy for not providing proper fireboats to protect hundreds of billions in taxpayer ships, drydocks and equipment in the harbor after the Bonhomme Richard fire.

gcaptain.com/us-navy-lied-co…
US Navy Stonewalls Congress In Working Ship Reports
The US Navy has used a trail of misinformation to stonewall Congress and divert funding from working ships to naval aviation.

https://tinyurl.com/mr3pxytp
long, long thread readable without an X account

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (iMpf5)

309
Que?
No habla englais.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (5ZASI)

It really is the answer that covers everything.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (Zz0t1)

310 this is from the nation institute of health website, march 2022:

This article examines the Trump Administration's inability to mount a timely and effective response to the COVID‐19 outbreak, despite ample warning. Through an empirical exploration guided by three explanatory perspectives --psychological, bureau‐organizational, and agenda‐political --developed from the strategic surprise, public administration, and crisis management literature, the authors seek to shed light on the mechanisms that contributed to the underestimation of the coronavirus threat by the Trump Administration and the slow and mismanaged federal response.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (CWTWj)

311 apropos, I appreciate this post's graphics , well done!

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (g47mK)

312 303 Also, the Eastern seaboard was reportedly more like a dense park than the over-grown tangle of underbrush we know today.
Because of regular burns set by ... men.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (cnILS)

Also pigs and other wildlife will kill sprouts and young brush if there are enough of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (n7h9X)

So if there are not enough sprouts and young brush, the pigs leave them alone?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (ynpvh)

313
You allow logging in forests would help and it costs the state nothing.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (QVGsQ)
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I forgot about that one, Yeah, CA killing off the logging industry also did away with road maintenance in the forests.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

314 Well...back from running errands and just as I was pulling in, the voice on the radio informed me that if I blame the fires on poor resource and forest management, then I am a member of a vast right wing conspiracy against climate change.
I wnder...do I get a membership card too?
Posted by: Diogenes

That's oddly specific.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (5ZASI)

315
CA politics is largely controlled by Frisco commies, the LA/SoCal commies are junior partners. It's no coincidence that letting water run off from the Sacramento River Delta to the bay rather than being diverted via the CA Aqueduct into the farm land of the Central Valley and eventually into SoCal also ensures that the Bay Area has plenty of water at the expense of the rest of the state.

SoCal commies are dumb enough that they don't realize that they're being butt-raped by their Frisco commie fellow travelers.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (y9nCu)

316 San Diego had to release water from Lake Hodges because it was filled to the brim from the heavy rainstorms we had in the last year or two.

God forbid we build another reservoir to store water when we have a surfeit of it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (YqDXo)

317 Remember former Trophy wives, we are always hiring! So...moisturize those feet and give us a try!
Posted by: Only Fans at January 09, 2025 03:55 PM (t0Rmr)

I say this as someone who appreciates all parts of the female anatomy, but the fact we have an entire industry dedicated to filming and showing women's feet is enough to cause God to burn the whole thing down.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (lH8E4)

318 DEI: LA Department of Water and Power CEO Janisse Quinones makes $750,000 per year. Listen to her explain how LA ran out of water. One job…

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won't stop until they go to jail

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (g47mK)

319 Why does every lesbian in public life look like Peter Griffin?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:09 PM (QzM4s)
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They want to be free of THE MALE GAZE.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (krQz2)

320 313
You allow logging in forests would help and it costs the state nothing.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (QVGsQ)
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I forgot about that one, Yeah, CA killing off the logging industry also did away with road maintenance in the forests.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

"It was to save the owls!"
"Who?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (ynpvh)

321 >I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires.

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it's because of the hyperfocus on fire suppression after the fact

the natural life cycle of a forest (before Man interrupted) is that dead trees and branches fall to the forest floor and are destroyed in subsequent occasional lightning-caused fires

but Greenpeace or whatever comes along and says no, we have to keep forests from ever burning, because of Walt Disney movies. And so the fuel for the next fire builds and builds and builds and one day it catches fire and it's now too big to put out and who knew this would ever happen? We were so quick to put out even the smallest fire!

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (AOsQT)

322 251 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)
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On a large scale we don't stupidly build houses in heavily-forested areas, and we also don't take active steps to extinquish lightning-caused fires that occur naturally year in and year out. More numerous but smaller wildfires keep the understory cleaned out and provide nutrients back to the soil for the flora that aren't burned out.

Fire is, mostly, a really important part of the cycle of nature in the forest. How we mitigate the risks to human life and our dwellings is up to us. Certainly "Build a lot of houses in the woods then do nothing to mitigate fire risk" is a born loser, but such is Democrat stupidity.

Posted by: ballistic at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (QeTpV)

323 The roof is burning Cotton. It is literally on fire.

These people are beyond parody when it comes to stupidity.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (17s+e)

324 I believe that the fire department, or public works department has stated that the hydrants are empty because of a lack of pumping capacity rather than a lack of available water.

Posted by: wat at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (Dk542)

325 I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)
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Utility companies used to cut back brush from their power line right of ways regularly. They also maintained access roads to their equipment.
This sensible policy was ended several years ago, if I remember correctly.
Posted by: blake
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There is (was) a valid policy of clearing dead trees in forests to reduce fuel load. Environmentalists complained that owls live in those dead trees, and the roads and equipment are too disruptive so they had to stop. This was a big issue in CA for a long time.

I also remember seeing somewhere (not sure where. Maybe CA, maybe Europe) wide clearings used as a fire break to prevent any potential wild fire from spreading. I don't know a lot about that though.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (7gh5G)

326 Also pigs and other wildlife will kill sprouts and young brush if there are enough of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (n7h9X)

So if there are not enough sprouts and young brush, the pigs leave them alone?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Kinda, they don't hang around. They move on to better habitat.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (5ZASI)

327 he roof is burning Cotton. It is literally on fire.

Good. Maybe the slaves won't have to pick it no mo.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (Zz0t1)

328 313
You allow logging in forests would help and it costs the state nothing.
Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 04:11 PM (QVGsQ)
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I forgot about that one, Yeah, CA killing off the logging industry also did away with road maintenance in the forests.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (tT6L1)

And CARB and APCD should allow more controlled burns which even the fireman complain about. Poor management of resources.

Posted by: CaliGirl at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (QVGsQ)

329 So who has burnt out more square miles of a city?

Gavin Newsom or Curtis LeMay?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (3NsUs)

Intentionally? LeMay.

Overall - I'm not sure.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (VNX3d)

330 They just took a very common non-endangered fish and claimed they discovered a new identical sub-species, which they claimed was endangered.

They do that with Pacific Northwest salmon, too - every creek has its own genetically unique salmon, and under no conditions can salmon genetically optimized for one creek flourish in another creek.

That's why they took a few Sacramento River salmon and dumped them into rivers in New Zealand, and now New Zealand has huge salmon runs - because conditions in New Zealand just magically happened to be identical to conditions on the Sacramento River.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (uxCna)

331 Why are the people of LA and California complaining about what just happened ??

You voted for this and now you must live with it !!!!

Elections have consequences ..........

Posted by: George Hoglifter at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (W0y7n)

332 How in the hell has CA been dealing with this recent round of Insurance Cancellation?

Surely these homes are not all paid for...not in these times.

Are the Mortgage Holders just YOLOing it?
Posted by: garrett

Depends on what type of loan they have. Some have all kinds of alternative financing to afford unaffordable houses. There is also a state run pool of last resort insurance, like in Florida, that buckling for the same reason the one in Florida is.

Insurance companies are like bookies, there are some bets you cannot make them take because the risk is too high. When reinsurers refuse to cover the insurance company's excess risk, then they cut off policies to get under that cap.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (ctrM5)

333 The new Net Cost of Reinsurance in Ratemaking Regulation requires insurance companies — for the first time — to increase coverage in high-risk areas, ensuring more options for Californians while limiting the costs passed on to consumers. " . Thus exit occurs.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM

I was *assured* in my thermodynamics classes that perpetual motion machines were impossible.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (a3Q+t)

334 Mayor orders LA Rams to take the wind.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (krQz2)

335 I'm putting money that it was started at a homeless camp. I've read that three of the firesseem to have started in the same area.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (NQtI0)
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Me too. And they're not homeless, they're vagrants. We need a rectification of the language.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (YqDXo)

336 Also, the Eastern seaboard was reportedly more like a dense park than the over-grown tangle of underbrush we know today.
Because of regular burns set by ... men.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Yes, the Indians burned off the underbrush in the forest because the more open landscape this created attracted deer, which they could then kill and eat.

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (77rzZ)

337 That's oddly specific.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (5ZASI)

I thought so too. They also rambled on about trashing the politicians but I figured that was a given.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (W/lyH)

338 316 San Diego had to release water from Lake Hodges because it was filled to the brim from the heavy rainstorms we had in the last year or two.

God forbid we build another reservoir to store water when we have a surfeit of it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:14 PM (YqDXo)

Kali got RID of dams because enviro-wackos argued that the dams were un-natural and wanted to land back to the way it was for the plants and animals...
Will they get rid of the Hetch-Hetchy dam that feeds SF and surrounding areas for the same reason? Um, no, dude.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (ynpvh)

339 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.

Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)

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Can't find right now, but I've seen side-by-side photos of Yosemite Valley -- one from the late 1800s with all the dead flora cleared and one recently where its basically unmanaged -- a startling difference.

Even the Native Americans practiced responsible forest management ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (JXlGR)

340 Not really, due to political pressure, "SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Insurance Commissioner Ricardo Lara today announced the final major step in his Sustainable Insurance Strategy, issuing a historic regulation aimed at restoring stability to California’s insurance market while addressing the growing risks of wildfires and climate change. The new Net Cost of Reinsurance in Ratemaking Regulation requires insurance companies — for the first time — to increase coverage in high-risk areas, ensuring more options for Californians while limiting the costs passed on to consumers. " . Thus exit occurs.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (ctrM5)

I don't have enough time or interest in trying to analyze that statement, but I'm going to say, without any fear of being wrong, that whole announcement is as full of lies as the Covids, the 2016 Russian hoax, the Ukraine war, and the 2020 election narrative.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (lH8E4)

341 Not the fault of the insurance companies. They've been hit with massive liabilities from previous wildfires, but the state insurance commissioner wouldn't allow them to raise rates to offset the losses. So they pulled out.

Blame the state, not the insurance companies.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (YqDXo)

And the causes of these fires? in no particular order:

1) The state banning clearances of brush for ecological reasons

2) The state utility company not being able to clear brush from their increasingly unmaintained equipment

3) Homeless and Illegals camping in fire areas and not arrested.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (n7h9X)

342 And CARB and APCD should allow more controlled burns which even the fireman complain about. Poor management of resources.
Posted by: CaliGirl
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Firemen complain because their life is on the line. The eco interest groups and gubmint have no skin in the game unlike residents and firemen.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (ctrM5)

343 I believe that the fire department, or public works department has stated that the hydrants are empty because of a lack of pumping capacity rather than a lack of available water.
Posted by: wat at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (Dk542)

Well, if THAT'S the case.....IT'S STILL THE FAULT OF THE BUREAUCRACY.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (Zz0t1)

344 Gotta admit... laughing... Climate Change? really?

first off, the Climate ALWAYS changes. It is never static. From Ice Ages to Heat waves... it changes.

And it aint got nothing to do with us EXCEPT for the heat island effect and us sending heat energy around.

Yeah, the Santa Ana's are a bit frisky this year... but that has nothing to do with CO2 or anything Man made EXCEPT, as stated, the Heat Island Effect which does change temps (which cause winds) due to cities retaining heat.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (QAkQ3)

345 Dam Kali decommissioned...
https://tinyurl.com/bdhv8vz2

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (ynpvh)

346 @315 I'm sure the SoCal commies think it's not butt rape butt rape

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (RLc6v)

347 > The insurance companies are nice enough to notify your mortgage company for you.

When I signed my home loan, I was required to list the lender as an interested party on my home owner's insurance. The insurance company isn't just being nice, they're fulfilling a contractual obligation when they inform your lender of insurance coverage changes.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (Odg76)

348 FYI...Smelt fishing
Best river in America for smelting is the Lewis River just north of Vancouver Washington. Use nets and one can easily come away with a bucket full of them.
Good News: They taste great.
Bad News: They are a bitch to clean.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (W/lyH)

349 I believe that the fire department, or public works department has stated that the hydrants are empty because of a lack of pumping capacity rather than a lack of available water.

Because the idiots at LADWP apparently didn't have emergency generators at their pump stations.

No power, and the pumps stop working.

Who knew that power would go out during a wildfire?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (uxCna)

350 "How did the smelt become more important than the lives of human beings? "

Ask the now-zombie Senators and Congressmen who voted for a law, decades ago, to protect endangered species* no matter what.

*Animal species are legally declared endangered by un-elected Fed bureaucrats. Who are themselves environmentalist wackos. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Gref at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (aBgBM)

351 Also pigs and other wildlife will kill sprouts and young brush if there are enough of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (n7h9X)

So if there are not enough sprouts and young brush, the pigs leave them alone?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Kinda, they don't hang around. They move on to better habitat.
Posted by: rickb223 at

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This WHOLE conversation is very hurtful

Posted by: Liz Cheney at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (Ggs2O)

352 re 333: "I was *assured* in my thermodynamics classes that perpetual motion machines were impossible."

but you see them all the time in facebook "reels"

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (CWTWj)

353 I don't have enough time or interest in trying to analyze that statement, but I'm going to say, without any fear of being wrong, that whole announcement is as full of lies as the Covids, the 2016 Russian hoax, the Ukraine war, and the 2020 election narrative.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (lH8E4)

Seems consistent with what I heard, that rates could not be raised to match the risk. So at some point, the Insurance people bailed out rather than go bankrupt. Either way the residents would be screwed.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (n7h9X)

354 These fires are the perfect analogy to leftist policy consequences

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (lPmv3)

355 Everything for the state, nothing against the state

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (fwDg9)

356 No one deserves to have their home destroyed by fire.

That being said, I wonder how many of those folks in Malibu have more than one home?

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (W2Pud)

357 I propose the following: everyone who voted against and/or took steps to prevent water management (whether at the ballot booth, the legislature and/or the executive branch) be subject to an excise tax to pay for the damage.
Personally.

Posted by: CTSPURSMAN at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (Uy2Lz)

358 A couple of years ago, on the way to my first TX MoMe, I drove through Flagstaff during a controlled burn. It was like driving through dense fog.

Yeah, they managed to get the burn going when temperatures were low and no wind.

However, it seems like CA doesn't understand this principle.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (tT6L1)

359 2) The state utility company not being able to clear brush from their increasingly unmaintained equipment

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (n7h9X)

I'm trying to figure out why, when both Gas and Electricity is more than TWICE the average national Price in Calif... the Energy companies are broke and can't do maintenance. Where the hell is that money going?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (QAkQ3)

360 Kali hasn't constructed a new dam in 40 or so years. Here's a list of dam that have been decommissioned...

https://tinyurl.com/5yc4s8py

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (ynpvh)

361 "And voila -- instant victories in corruptly-arranged settlements. The scam has two parts: Outside "environmental" extortionists that file lawsuits, and corrupt insider bureaucrats who want to create their own laws through settlements with litigants rather than doing what ordinary citizens do, which is to petition their representatives for legislation."

Is there a Part III, perhaps? Payment of litigant lawyer's fees, or fines of some sort? If so, that constitutes fraud.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (JgYYs)

362 And if they're getting zero water at the hydrant, that's a bit more than a pump inadequacy. There should be SOME water there.

There is NONE.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (Zz0t1)

363 Californians remind me of a bunch of pandas playing with a collection of kitchen knives.

Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (dIske)

364 I also remember seeing somewhere (not sure where. Maybe CA, maybe Europe) wide clearings used as a fire break to prevent any potential wild fire from spreading. I don't know a lot about that though.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (7gh5G)
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CA used to bulldoze firebreaks across hills, but the noise upset the endangered hissing cockroaches, so they stopped.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

365 CA politics is largely controlled by Frisco commies, the LA/SoCal commies are junior partners.

By people who have never set foot outside of a city.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (5ZASI)

366 I spent a little less than 2 years on a volunteer fire dept. We had a furniture store fire one night.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

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Did it have one of those truss roofs? I bet it did.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (7gh5G)

367 We in Brattleboro call our fire responders fyrypyrsyns.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (a3Q+t)

368
This WHOLE conversation is very hurtful
Posted by: Liz Cheney at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (Ggs2O)

So is your face.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (Zz0t1)

369 Not the fault of the insurance companies. They've been hit with massive liabilities from previous wildfires, but the state insurance commissioner wouldn't allow them to raise rates to offset the losses. So they pulled out.

Blame the state, not the insurance companies.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:12 PM (YqDXo)
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Ah, you can trust Dems to try to force somebody's hand and then, shift blame when somebody takes an alternate route, and then to want to criminalize any discretion that doesn't lead to what they tried to force.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (krQz2)

370 I don't have enough time or interest in trying to analyze that statement, but I'm going to say, without any fear of being wrong, that whole announcement is as full of lies as the Covids, the 2016 Russian hoax, the Ukraine war, and the 2020 election narrative.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Individual Russians used 'the Burt TC full of lies standard' and applied it to all government statements issued during the late Soviet Union. Chernobyl for just one example.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (ctrM5)

371 Mayor orders LA Rams to take the wind.
Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (krQz2)

I don't know where it is, in relation to the fires, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if that new stadium burned to the ground.

In fact, it would be rich beyond compare, if the Dodgers, Rams, Chargers... all the pro teams found themselves having to share the Coliseum for several years.

Hell, burn that down too, make everyone play in Oakland.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (lH8E4)

372 I say this as someone who appreciates all parts of the female anatomy, but the fact we have an entire industry dedicated to filming and showing women's feet is enough to cause God to burn the whole thing down.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:15 PM (lH8E4)

Typical white person.

The native Americans fapped to all parts of the e-thot.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (JREgK)

373 Well, Mrs D has come out and said it.

Mrs D: "Almost every singly mayor, fire chief, and city council person flapping their gums has been a woman! When are they going to stop hiring stupid women?"

Me: *silence*

Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (W/lyH)

374 CA used to bulldoze firebreaks across hills, but the noise upset the endangered hissing cockroaches, so they stopped.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (YqDXo)
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*nods*
Understandable

Posted by: Asylum Inmates at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (krQz2)

375 They used to do controlled burning to clear this stuff out.

It was just a known thing even generations ago that if you just let "nature" handle it, nature is going to have wildfires.

But I can almost guarantee you this fire started from something manmade, like a utility line or maybe a homeless camp.

It certainly didn't start because of the .01 degree of difference as a result global warming, even if you want to accept those numbers.

Posted by: Leupold at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (4pwAx)

376 Nope. Climate change IS the cause.

I blame Alar.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (oLK8+)

and acid rain.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (z/ifB)

377 the Energy companies are broke and can't do maintenance. Where the hell is that money going?

Into unreliable "renewables", and enormously expensive batteries installed to back up the unreliable "renewables".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (uxCna)

378 155 Who sang Delta Smelt?
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 09, 2025 03:50 PM (kTd/k)

Helen Reedy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (JgYYs)

379 I smelt something funny here

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (//kNb)

380 87 Adam Corolla is a smart dude but he thinks that CA voters are gonna switch to GOP after all this.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Funniest thing I heard all day.
CA voters will vote for the Dems early and often until there's nothing left in CA.
Posted by: Iasonas for Vance/Anna Paulina Luna 2028 at January 09, 2025 03:42 PM (gUzGB)

They may already have switched, but between ranked choice voting, ballot harvesting, motor-voter, and other get-out-the (D) vote policies, it will be a cold day in Pac Palisades before the d's lose their super-majority in the legislature.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (QGaXH)

381 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale?

Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)

You are correct. But they have been putting out the small seasonal fires for a generation, so the fuel has built up so much that the fires burn hotter and longer than nature intended.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (d9fT1)

382 >>but the noise upset the endangered hissing cockroaches, so they stopped.

But enough about Nancy Pelosi..

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 09, 2025 04:23 PM (JREgK)

383 Climate change is the cause of what, precisely? How much did the climate change, and which model predicted that particular rate of change?

Posted by: Alec Leamas at January 09, 2025 03:37 PM

Good question. "Climate change" "experts" have supposedly predicted this stuff for the past, what, 50+ years? And California is the home of all the "climate change" "experts" who have been studying this for 50+ years.

And yet, absolutely none of them were planning anything to actually prevent any of these catastrophes from happening? One would think that "climate change" "experts" would know years in advance when there was a risk for wildfires like this and would be taking precautions years in advance. Things like, say, having plenty of water around for firefighters to use.

And yet, these "climate change" "experts" did the exact opposite of what they should have been doing. Just like they did with the Plandemic. It's almost like either they were lying about being "experts" or they deliberately did things wrong to ensure this exact situation would happen.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 09, 2025 04:23 PM (P5BPp)

384 That's why they took a few Sacramento River salmon and dumped them into rivers in New Zealand, and now New Zealand has huge salmon runs - because conditions in New Zealand just magically happened to be identical to conditions on the Sacramento River.
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Then they imported grizzlies to keep the salmon population down; and then the grizz began killing people, so they brought in cane toads to poison the grizzlies; then...

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 04:23 PM (iMpf5)

385 I believe that the fire department, or public works department has stated that the hydrants are empty because of a lack of pumping capacity rather than a lack of available water.

Because the idiots at LADWP apparently didn't have emergency generators at their pump stations.

No power, and the pumps stop working.

Who knew that power would go out during a wildfire?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:19 PM (uxCna)

The power company is allowed or forced to turn off power when fires start in high risk area avoid sparking more fires. This is not a joke. Apparently it is more sporting to have them flee in the dark.

In some of the more recent fires people on life support at home died when they did it.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:23 PM (n7h9X)

386 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale?

Ever been to Ft. Lewis? They imported some kind of ant that gathers up all the pine needles off the forest floor to make their nests, reducing the otherwise very real threat of rapidly spreading forest fire across a forest floor completely covered in a nice, even layer of dried pine needles.

https://tinyurl.com/yc5p7mwu

Posted by: Military Moron at January 09, 2025 04:23 PM (ycI94)

387 Californians remind me of a bunch of pandas playing with a collection of kitchen knives.

Posted by: Orson at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (dIske)
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And any injury is the fault of the guy who invented kitchen knives.

Posted by: Asylum Inmates at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (krQz2)

388 357 I propose the following: everyone who voted against and/or took steps to prevent water management (whether at the ballot booth, the legislature and/or the executive branch) be subject to an excise tax to pay for the damage.
Personally.
Posted by: CTSPURSMAN
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You highlight that part of the problem with universal suffrage is that a lot of the people voting do not have skin in the policy game at hand nor do the bureaucrats, politicians, and interest groups. Match made in hell.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

389 Ask the now-zombie Senators and Congressmen who voted for a law, decades ago, to protect endangered species* no matter what.
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Two kinds of endangered species: ones that were doing fine until human activity threatened them (e.g., the passenger pigeon), and ones that were on the way out all by themselves.

Trying to "save" the latter is a fool's errand.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

390 364 I also remember seeing somewhere (not sure where. Maybe CA, maybe Europe) wide clearings used as a fire break to prevent any potential wild fire from spreading. I don't know a lot about that though.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (7gh5G)
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CA used to bulldoze firebreaks across hills, but the noise upset the endangered hissing cockroaches, so they stopped.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

The coulda told the politicians to fuck around elsewhere...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (ynpvh)

391 for what it's worth, the los angeles area had higher than usual rainfall the past two years

but it's like what we learned from joseph and pharaoh: live it up in the plentiful years then go to d.c for handouts in the lean years. and you thought the leftists didn't know what's in the bible

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (CWTWj)

392 Unleashing isn’t as cool as seizing and pouncing.

I’m kinda meh about this. You choose to live in a communist shit hole? Sorry but that’s on you.

Hope the nice weather was worth it.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (DEN45)

393 Something I don't get.

Exactly HOW is "climate change" supposed to start a wildfire? Does it get so hot outside that wood spontaneously combusts or something?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (//kNb)

394 I'm putting money that it was started at a homeless camp. I've read that three of the firesseem to have started in the same area.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 09, 2025 04:13 PM (NQtI0)
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Me too. And they're not homeless, they're vagrants. We need a rectification of the language.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:17 PM (YqDXo)

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Had a bad fire in the San Francisco Peaks north of Flagstaff a couple years ago (which subsequently led to bad floods during monsoon season).

The cause was a vagrant living in the forest who was burning his used toilet paper.

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (JXlGR)

395 I spent a little less than 2 years on a volunteer fire dept. We had a furniture store fire one night.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

...

They always say fire sale but never think it could happen for real.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (z/ifB)

396 I don't have enough time or interest in trying to analyze that statement, but I'm going to say, without any fear of being wrong, that whole announcement is as full of lies as the Covids, the 2016 Russian hoax, the Ukraine war, and the 2020 election narrative.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:18 PM (lH8E4)

Seems consistent with what I heard, that rates could not be raised to match the risk. So at some point, the Insurance people bailed out rather than go bankrupt. Either way the residents would be screwed.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (n7h9X)

Yes, home owners be screwed.

My point is, anyone whinging over what the poor insurance companies have had to deal with, probably misses how all of this works.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (lH8E4)

397 Nope. Climate change IS the cause.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM

My work here is done.

Posted by: Greta at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (a3Q+t)

398 "Peace is that brief, glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: Sharkman at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (DMhl9)

399 Just wait until the proggies that live along the ocean are not allowed to rebuild. It's going to be hilarious.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (17s+e)

400 >>> In fact, it would be rich beyond compare, if the Dodgers, Rams, Chargers... all the pro teams found themselves having to share the Coliseum for several years.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (lH8E4)

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Make Moonshots great again.

Posted by: Turn 2 at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (JfxgE)

401 Off! Off! Damn sock.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (krQz2)

402 Me: *silence*
Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (W/lyH)

The safe play

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (/6GbT)

403 We're considering relocating to Wyoming and becoming snow-birds.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (QGaXH)

404 I'm trying to figure out why, when both Gas and Electricity is more than TWICE the average national Price in Calif... the Energy companies are broke and can't do maintenance. Where the hell is that money going?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2025 04:20 PM (QAkQ3)

Yeah that's a juicy subject. Look up PG&E bankruptcy.

Posted by: front toward enemy at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (TIizU)

405 Do you think that maybe the insurance companies found out that the fire hydrants are dry and decided to cancel the policies?

Maybe the fire victims can get a class action against the City for not fulfilling their responsibilities of providing adequate protection?

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (QB+5g)

406 You highlight that part of the problem with universal suffrage is that a lot of the people voting do not have skin in the policy game at hand nor do the bureaucrats, politicians, and interest groups. Match made in hell.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)
__________________

Yep. Which is why only net payers of taxes and those who served in the military should be allowed to vote. No skin in the game, no vote.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

407 376 Nope. Climate change IS the cause.

I blame Alar.
Posted by: garrett at January 09, 2025 03:34 PM (oLK8+)

and acid rain.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (z/ifB)

Yeah, man, that acid, man, rains like a rainbow...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (ynpvh)

408 They may already have switched, but between ranked choice voting, ballot harvesting, motor-voter, and other get-out-the (D) vote policies, it will be a cold day in Pac Palisades before the d's lose their super-majority in the legislature.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (QGaXH)

I don't THINK we have ranked choice yet. We have a jungle primary so usually you can choose from one leftist or another, identical leftist.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (n7h9X)

409 for what it's worth, the los angeles area had higher than usual rainfall the past two years

but it's like what we learned from joseph and pharaoh: live it up in the plentiful years then go to d.c for handouts in the lean years. and you thought the leftists didn't know what's in the bible
Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (CWTWj)

The song says it never rains in Southern California, so they do everything they can to wisk the water away to get rid of any evidence it actually did rain.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (Zz0t1)

410 I July our small town Etna, Ca in Scott Valley/Siskiyou County came close to having to be Evacuated over Fire and they still have not came out with the Cause of it

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (wGqjj)
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It's racism.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (krQz2)

411 Individual Russians used 'the Burt TC full of lies standard' and applied it to all government statements issued during the late Soviet Union. Chernobyl for just one example.
Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (ctrM5)

Yes. You don't have to specify Russian. Any country/government will do.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (lH8E4)

412 Two kinds of endangered species: ones that were doing fine until human activity threatened them (e.g., the passenger pigeon), and ones that were on the way out all by themselves.

Trying to "save" the latter is a fool's errand.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

...

Or just take the silent spring approach and say we're killing ALL the birds.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (z/ifB)

413 379 I smelt something funny here

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (//kNb)

I thought that was the Fanny Wilis cooch thread...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (ynpvh)

414 The power company is allowed or forced to turn off power when fires start in high risk area avoid sparking more fires. This is not a joke. Apparently it is more sporting to have them flee in the dark.

Which is fine, but then you need emergency generators so critical equipment (like pumps) can keep operating.

LADWP apparently spent the money on DEI trainings instead.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (uxCna)

415 so you combine aggressive fire suppression with a refusal to let logging companies clear out dead timber, add DEI and a Sierra Club fetish for little fish over people, and one day your whole world will burn to the ground.

Posted by: Don Black at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (AOsQT)

416 They may already have switched, but between ranked choice voting, ballot harvesting, motor-voter, and other get-out-the (D) vote policies, it will be a cold day in Pac Palisades before the d's lose their super-majority in the legislature.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Go for the initiative for eliminating blanket primaries and at the same time have a pincer movement in suing the state government to clean up voting rolls in the state. MVRA requires it and voter groups have already won several such lawsuits because the law is clear that it has to be done.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (ctrM5)

417 Pacific Palisades voted 71.17% for Harris in the last election.

This is what they voted for.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

418 Do you think that maybe the insurance companies found out that the fire hydrants are dry and decided to cancel the policies?

Maybe the fire victims can get a class action against the City for not fulfilling their responsibilities of providing adequate protection?
Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (QB+5g)

They could get a huge payout.....paid for by their local taxes. WIN

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:27 PM (n7h9X)

419 Two kinds of endangered species: ones that were doing fine until human activity threatened them (e.g., the passenger pigeon), and ones that were on the way out all by themselves.

Trying to "save" the latter is a fool's errand.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

No one really knows why the Labrador duck went extinct. Apparently, it wasn't very good eating, so it wasn't human hunting that wiped it out. It may have been one of those latter species whose time was just up.

Posted by: Bulg at January 09, 2025 04:27 PM (77rzZ)

420 >>> In fact, it would be rich beyond compare, if the Dodgers, Rams, Chargers... all the pro teams found themselves having to share the Coliseum for several years.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (lH8E4)

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Make Moonshots great again.
Posted by: Turn 2 at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (JfxgE)

Why am I surprised that we haven't seen anyone throwing Jello shots onto the fire to try putting it out?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 04:27 PM (VNX3d)

421 Pacific Palisades voted 71.17% for Harris in the last election.

This is what they voted for.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

They wanted to get her out of state. Sensible.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:27 PM (n7h9X)

422 I spent a little less than 2 years on a volunteer fire dept. We had a furniture store fire one night.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

Did that during high school. Had a grass fire that got really, really close to a dynamite plant before we got it out.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:27 PM (5ZASI)

423 3) Homeless and Illegals camping in fire areas and not arrested.

Posted by: Oldcat

4 ) Pot farms set up by cartels.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 09, 2025 04:27 PM (IG4Id)

424 LADWP apparently spent the money on DEI trainings instead.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (uxCna)
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At least they spent the money wisely.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (YqDXo)

425 390 364 I also remember seeing somewhere (not sure where. Maybe CA, maybe Europe) wide clearings used as a fire break to prevent any potential wild fire from spreading. I don't know a lot about that though.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:16 PM (7gh5G)
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CA used to bulldoze firebreaks across hills, but the noise upset the endangered hissing cockroaches, so they stopped.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:21 PM (YqDXo)

The coulda told the politicians to fuck around elsewhere...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (ynpvh)

Hissing cockroaches are native to CA? I thought they were from Madagascar, not the USA.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (JgYYs)

426 "Peace is that brief, glorious moment in history when everyone stands around reloading."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: Sharkman at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (DMhl9)

Yup...fromStuff Jefferson Said 4th ed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (d9fT1)

427 They have been wanting a disaster to start over with Socialism

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (fwDg9)

428 Yes. You don't have to specify Russian. Any country/government will do.
Posted by: BurtTC

Communist countries are pretty much the worse at it because there is some nominal pushback when a government does not have total control. Omitting and obfuscating are the general means in such places rather than the bald faced lie. California, however, is closer to Commie totalitarian one party state than it is to other places.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (ctrM5)

429 I don't doubt that CA drove out insurers through regulation. But it seems to me that the outcome would essentially be the same if CA allowed the rate increases, at least for the non-rich, because middle class people could not afford it.

I'm not in CA, but I am taking it in the neck in terms of insurance increases for everything. Had to outright drop flood insurance. Too much money.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (QzM4s)

430 California let its population double without constructing a single major new reservoir.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (uxCna)

431 The cause was a vagrant living in the forest who was burning his used toilet paper.

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal!
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Glade is coming out with a new scent for your home "Burning Hobo Used Toilet Paper." Gonna be a big seller according to industry experts.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (17s+e)

432 The power company is allowed or forced to turn off power when fires start in high risk area avoid sparking more fires. This is not a joke. Apparently it is more sporting to have them flee in the dark.

Which is fine, but then you need emergency generators so critical equipment (like pumps) can keep operating.

LADWP apparently spent the money on DEI trainings instead.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (uxCna)

They tried to make home generator illegal a while back.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (n7h9X)

433 3) Homeless and Illegals camping in fire areas and not arrested.

Posted by: Oldcat
____________________

THIS!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (YqDXo)

434 Literally salt the earth, and it'll be messed up for generations.

It's just a little saltwater, it's not poison, you're not making salt flats. They're next to the ocean, anyways. Stuff grows in the salty air.

Posted by: t-bird at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (NCclz)

435 and what about this guy getting away with killing an endangered species?

https://tinyurl.com/4c9trfww

Posted by: gnats local 678 at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (CWTWj)

436 In the name of equity all the burned homes along PCH in Malibu should be rebuilt and then given to inner city youths.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (DEN45)

437 Ha! I knew it. Beautiful. The Fetermonster has a build a lil coalition of 4 or 5 Senators. They voted to confirm DJT.. With John now Schumer can go fuck himself because pubs now tentatively pubs have a filibuster proof majority. AND SCREW cOLLINS AND mURKOWSKI WITH A BARBED WIRE DIDLO
Fettermonster going to Mar A Lago
https://tinyurl.com/4vkxmfaa

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (jQ+5q)

438 Hissing cockroaches are native to CA? I thought they were from Madagascar, not the USA.
Posted by: Darrell Harris

Probably are. But thanks to tramp steamers, tons of invasive species are moving all over the world.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (5ZASI)

439 395 I spent a little less than 2 years on a volunteer fire dept. We had a furniture store fire one night.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads

...

They always say fire sale but never think it could happen for real.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (z/ifB)

I don't need anymore fire right now, thank you, even if it's on sale...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:29 PM (ynpvh)

440 Do you think that maybe the insurance companies found out that the fire hydrants are dry and decided to cancel the policies?

Maybe the fire victims can get a class action against the City for not fulfilling their responsibilities of providing adequate protection?
Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (QB+5g)

Nothing would shock me.

If you told me the pols and insurance co's, and Blackrock and all the usual oligarchs knew the fire was coming (sooner or later), not unlike Covid, and were willing to allow the thing to spread, so they could swoop in later and rake in the cash, away from the ordinary schlub.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (lH8E4)

441 417 Pacific Palisades voted 71.17% for Harris in the last election.

This is what they voted for.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Think I read somewhere that her and Emhoff have a house at risk from the fires. Saw that maybe in KTLA-7's coverage.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (ctrM5)

442 Guess they never heard of goats in California.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (0wWvl)

443 California let its population double without constructing a single major new reservoir.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (uxCna)

They had a proposition to limit water usage per capita a while back. Filling in your large swimming pool did not count, while baths and washing machines did.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (n7h9X)

444 Ace, point of clarification...... Northern California forests are tree'd...... Southern California "forest land" (designated so by state or federal governments) are arid scrub, sage, manzanita and acacia brush.....they do not get enough rain to support tree'd forests..... any actual trees burning were growing in somebody's manicured and watered yard.............

Posted by: Monica at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (kfQcw)

445 I hope Trump doesn't send a nickel of federal dollars over there.

Give them the North Carolina treatment. Over 70% of the effected people voted Harris? Talk to Gavin Newsom about being made whole.

Maybe they can spend some of those funds for high speed rail. CA just basically defaulted on all their federal unemployment money they owe.

Posted by: Leupold at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (4pwAx)

446 322 251 I'm a little skeptical when hear about forests that are supposed to have their underbrush cleared to prevent fires. Maybe in some very limited areas close to homes, power lines, roads but how is that possible on a large scale? The manpower does not exist. I despise Dems but this line of attack doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:04 PM (GUOwU)

controlled burns. You allow small, several acre fires every other year or so, fires small enough to take out the brush but not big enough to kill the trees. If you're close to residential areas then you have to send people in to cut it and bag it. You must do this constantly, never slack off, but if you do this then the big fires never happen no matter how bad the wind is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (wyMQY)

447 Does anyone have contact info for those hissing cockroaches? We're looking for guests to book.

Posted by: The View showrunners at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (PiwSw)

448 Nope. ~~Climate change~~ Socialism IS the ~~cause~~goal. -- Sid

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (krQz2)

449 113 What I don’t get is how Newsom didn’t see where starving CA of water would:
1) create water shortages for voting residents.
2) deprive firefighters of water from fires areas where his richest constituents live
With him getting blamed for both.

If it had me, I would have devised a plan where southern CA got its water and made up some bullshit rationale where I was saving fish by doing it.
It just seems counter to Newsom’s political interests.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 09, 2025 03:45 PM (jbnUc)

It's been a while since I paid attention to it, but I recall reading during previous droughts the water allocation breakdown of developed, available fresh water was:

50% Agriculture
5% Industrial Use
5% Residential use

Balance into the ocean for environmental reasons.

And they wondered why people were unwilling to do much to conserve residential water....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (QGaXH)

450 Guess they never heard of goats in California.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (0wWvl)

Would help the mountain lions, too, then they could cull the women joggers.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (n7h9X)

451 Fettermonster going to Mar A Lago
https://tinyurl.com/4vkxmfaa
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It!
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He is the new designated Manchin and Sinema of the Dem party.

Posted by: whig at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (ctrM5)

452 The left is a dead end. They will continue to deny reality until it kills them. Sadly, they will take many with them.

Posted by: It has been ever thus at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (HXZiI)

453 We're sending all the fuck ups to Greenland Shh don't tell Norway
-DJT

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (jQ+5q)

454 Progressives: "Damn Climate Change! We should have NEVER left the Ice Age!!"

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (krQz2)

455 CA just basically defaulted on all their federal unemployment money they owe.
Posted by: Leupold at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (4pwAx)
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Businesses all got his with a major payroll tax increase, I believe, to cover the default.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (tT6L1)

456 I July our small town Etna, Ca in Scott Valley/Siskiyou County came close to having to be Evacuated over Fire and they still have not came out with the Cause of it

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (wGqjj)
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It's racism.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (krQz2)
_______________

Net neutrality.

Climate change.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

457 I wonder if Adam Corolla knows yet, if his house burned. He was not sure last night.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (Cus5s)

458 399 Just wait until the proggies that live along the ocean are not allowed to rebuild. It's going to be hilarious.
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Thread on hoops to jump through for rebuilding...
Leigh @Hammock_Cat Jan 8
On the CA fires, and ***REBUILDING***

I'm not a Blue Check but hopefully this post will be amplified by others with more reach.
The screenshots I'm sharing are from a former boss and friend of mine whose home was lost to a fire a few years ago.
He's giving great advice:
https://tinyurl.com/cry27vuj

Old North State Guy @uncjonboy 22h Replying to @Hammock_Cat
As an insurance guy, the one thing I would add is work through your agent as well. Agents have been removed from the claims loop for the most part BUT they should absolutely be involved and willing to advocate for what is justifiable. If a claim is going smoothly, great, but we want to be involved anytime there is a dispute. Any agent/agency worth their salt should want to be involved. Often adjusters are brought in from other states and are less familiar with how state endorsements alter the base policy. Claims are an agency's chance to shine and to earn the commission we get paid.

Posted by: andycanuck (iMpf5) at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (iMpf5)

459 Where is Jimmy Kimmel's house ? Axing for a friend.

Posted by: runner at January 09, 2025 04:32 PM (g47mK)

460 412 Two kinds of endangered species: ones that were doing fine until human activity threatened them (e.g., the passenger pigeon), and ones that were on the way out all by themselves.

Trying to "save" the latter is a fool's errand.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

...

Or just take the silent spring approach and say we're killing ALL the birds.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (z/ifB)

There was a cartoon with the penguins from the Madagascar movie, where they brought back a Dodo bird from extinction, but it kept killing itself doing extreme sports...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at January 09, 2025 04:32 PM (ynpvh)

461 Insurance rates spiking has zero to do with global warming and everything to do with inflation.

Inflation in construction costs have easily doubled in the last 4 years, and even that's being conservative.

Posted by: Leupold at January 09, 2025 04:32 PM (4pwAx)

462 The left is a dead end. They will continue to deny reality until it kills them. Sadly, they will take many with them.

Posted by: It has been ever thus at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (HXZiI)
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There are only two ways to exit the progressive spiral.

1. Before the crash
2. Surviving the crash.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:32 PM (krQz2)

463 450 Guess they never heard of goats in California.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (0wWvl)

Would help the mountain lions, too, then they could cull the women joggers.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (n7h9X)
________________

The women sprinters would have a fighting chance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

464 OT I watched Biden deliver an 11-minute eulogy of Jimmy Carter. Not that he wrote it! His yelling, air-stabbing cadence is so distasteful I hope to never hear it again.

Posted by: m at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (VnUSN)

465 controlled burns. You allow small, several acre fires every other year or so, fires small enough to take out the brush but not big enough to kill the trees. If you're close to residential areas then you have to send people in to cut it and bag it. You must do this constantly, never slack off, but if you do this then the big fires never happen no matter how bad the wind is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (wyMQY)

If the wind picks up controlled burns can be not quite so controlled. I think this happened further east in CO or AZ or NM. I also recall rumors of arson by the firemen

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (n7h9X)

466 They may already have switched, but between ranked choice voting, ballot harvesting, motor-voter, and other get-out-the (D) vote policies, it will be a cold day in Pac Palisades before the d's lose their super-majority in the legislature.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (QGaXH)

I don't THINK we have ranked choice yet. We have a jungle primary so usually you can choose from one leftist or another, identical leftist.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (n7h9X)
***

Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a renewed push for a new state of Northern California...perhaps even a militant push.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (W/lyH)

467 "Nope. Climate change IS the cause"

I know the MSM are a bunch of ignorant, incurious lemmings but you would think they woudl notice that the cause of any natural disaster story is predetermined before it happens. Doesn't that seem a little suspicious?

Posted by: Ripley at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (GUOwU)

468 442 using/renting herds of goats and sheep to clear grass and brush is very popular here in California.....mostly by private landowners. Goats are particularly good at clearing poison oak which grows everywhere in this state.

Posted by: Monica at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (kfQcw)

469 They tried to make home generator illegal a while back.

Posted by: Oldcat
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Not only tried they did make them illegal. I think the last will be sold in 2028. I have 3 sitting in my garage. One to use two to sell and ass rape leftists when they want lights and refrigeration.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (17s+e)

470 I July our small town Etna, Ca in Scott Valley/Siskiyou County came close to having to be Evacuated over Fire and they still have not came out with the Cause of it

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 09, 2025 04:25 PM (wGqjj)
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It's racism.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (krQz2)
_______________

Net neutrality.

Climate change.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:31 PM (YqDXo)
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Overfeeding koi fish.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (krQz2)

471
Trumps border was should be 50 miles north of Sacramento.

Enough.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (+oR7L)

472 O/T - New video from Disparu is all about upcoming Hollywood conference where they will learn from CCP how to implement social behavioral change via entertainment.

Wholeness isn’t going anywhere. They’ve decided they need to be more sophisticated in shoving it down our throats. Holy crap!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (Hkcdp)

473 It's just a little saltwater, it's not poison, you're not making salt flats. They're next to the ocean, anyways. Stuff grows in the salty air.
Posted by: t-bird

Salt grasses that have evolved or time does.
Groceries don't.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (5ZASI)

474 Ha! I knew it. Beautiful. The Fetermonster has a build a lil coalition of 4 or 5 Senators. They voted to confirm DJT.

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Huh? How does a senator Confirm DJT. To what?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (DEN45)

475 Trumps border wall should be 50 miles north of Sacramento.

Enough.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (+oR7L)

476 Hey there's an Amish convoy heading to Cali to build homes.
There will be there 6/25

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (jQ+5q)

477 President-elect Donald Trump met with Senate Republicans on Wednesday and previewed 100 executive orders he plans to issue once he steps into the Oval Office on January 20, two sources told Axios. Many voters are eagerly anticipating Trump’s first decisions after President Joe Biden’s managed decline of the United States.

Posted by: SMOD at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (RHGPo)

478 New video from Disparu is all about upcoming Hollywood conference where they will learn from CCP how to implement social behavioral change via entertainment.

Social behavior change from fire.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:36 PM (5ZASI)

479 471
Trumps border was should be 50 miles north of Sacramento.

Enough.
Posted by: Frank

It should extend about 50 miles off the coast and all the way to Canada.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 09, 2025 04:36 PM (DEN45)

480 Fast food restaurants in alabama ask state to slow down paroles as they use prisoners for cheap labor. (DU) yet you attack California.

Posted by: raimondo at January 09, 2025 04:36 PM (7LqQ+)

481 Is Hollyweird in peril?

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (4XwPj)

482 I wonder if Adam Corolla knows yet, if his house burned. He was not sure last night.
Posted by: illiniwek

Malibu is to the West of the current fires, so he may escape.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (IG4Id)

483 Hey there's an Amish convoy heading to Cali to build homes.
There will be there 6/25
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It!

Three weeks sooner than the EV convoy leaving Kansas.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (5ZASI)

484 One to use two to sell and ass rape leftists when they want lights and refrigeration.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at January 09, 2025 04:34 PM (17s+e)

Rent them at an exorbitant fee. And rent extension cords too! $1/ft/day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (d9fT1)

485 I think we could be entering The Age of Not Putting Up With Bullsh*t.

We may, MAY, survive this sh*t after all.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (XV/Pl)

486 Guess they never heard of goats in California.
Posted by: Ben Had at January 09, 2025 04:30 PM (0wWvl)

Yes, there are dozens of goat ranches on the outskirts of LA, Inland Empire, Kern county, etc. And yes, some cities use them, but it's still a difficult thing to get them up and down the arroyos to make it worthwhile.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (IG4Id)

487
Even if you give the California dems Climate Change as the reason for the fires, then they should have been spending on getting ready for dealing with the climate change (fire suppression, water retention, etc) So they lose their own argument.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (+oR7L)

488 LOL

https://x.com/VSenso32/
status/1877246760000598096

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (O7YUW)

489 Catch Up@CatchUpFeed

Joe Rogan: “I talked to a fireman once --- this is one of the reasons that freaked me out --- and he was telling me, ‘dude one day it's just going to be the right wind.’

And fire is going to start in the right place and it's going to burn through L.A. all the way to the ocean

And there's not a f—kng thing we can do about it.’”

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (kmQ35)

490 Keep reading this was expected to happen so that alone knowing Armageddon was coming The insurance pulled out

Posted by: Skip at January 09, 2025 04:38 PM (fwDg9)

491 Hissing cockroaches are native to CA? I thought they were from Madagascar, not the USA.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (JgYYs)

there's a large subspecies native to DC.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2025 04:38 PM (wyMQY)

492 399 Just wait until the proggies that live along the ocean are not allowed to rebuild. It's going to be hilarious.
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late friend of mine lived in a canyon development in LA, which a few years back lost some 30+ houses and years later most where not even started rebuilding. Pierce Brosnan , the blonde officer in CHiPs, and that wack Girl from Whos' the Boss all lived there.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:38 PM (n7h9X)

493 Recognizing the fish brought together unlikely allies: sport fisherman and environmentalists. A had lobby. Once you lose the first court case, it's damn near impossible to get it reversed on appeal.

The bulldozed fire breaks would not have done anything. Winds are at 20-40 mph (gusts).

Water and clearing fuel would be the only things that would help.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 09, 2025 04:38 PM (b8J4P)

494 I think there's a Delta Smelt in my pants!

Posted by: Joe from DE at January 09, 2025 04:38 PM (G5+As)

495 Trumps border wall should be 50 miles north of Sacramento.

Enough.
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (+oR7L)
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Nope. We need it at the Arizona and Utah border.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:38 PM (krQz2)

496 Fast food restaurants in alabama ask state to slow down paroles as they use prisoners for cheap labor. (DU) yet you attack California.

That's terrible!

They should be released, and given bus tickets to blue cities.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 09, 2025 04:39 PM (uxCna)

497 California smelt it.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:39 PM (krQz2)

498
Huh? How does a senator Confirm DJT. To what?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 09, 2025 04:35 PM (DEN45)

I stand corrected sir/madam.
Fetterman cosponsors GOP-led Laken Riley bill, one of the few Democrats backing it
https://tinyurl.com/mrzutt43s the

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:39 PM (jQ+5q)

499 My bosses lived in the hills of LA during the 60's & 70's. They said when they moved there as children there were big 7 mile long fire breaks up in the hills and they managed the heck out of the underbrush. They had prisoners, forest service, etc working to keep it managed.

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 09, 2025 04:39 PM (+oR7L)

500 Awkward: Mourners At Jimmy Carter Funeral Place Flowers On Biden

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 09, 2025 04:39 PM (L/fGl)

501 So the FNM keeps calling the German party AfD "far right"...so I looked up their leader Alice Weidel.

She's a lesbian woman gay married to another woman from Sri Lanka.

Yeah. Far right indeed.

Oh and pretty much all of her political opinions are moderate to center left by American standards.

Posted by: Some Barn Mouse at January 09, 2025 04:40 PM (t0Rmr)

502 Rent them at an exorbitant fee. And rent extension cords too! $1/ft/day.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (d9fT1)

Include an "Environmental Impact" surcharge.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at January 09, 2025 04:40 PM (PiwSw)

503 It's been a while since I paid attention to it, but I recall reading during previous droughts the water allocation breakdown of developed, available fresh water was:

50% Agriculture
5% Industrial Use
5% Residential use

Balance into the ocean for environmental reasons.
______________

This is roughly correct. Busting homeowners chops to cut water usage by 10% only made a difference of ... 0.5%. Big whoop.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:40 PM (YqDXo)

504 Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a renewed push for a new state of Northern California...perhaps even a militant push.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (W/lyH)

Problem is the divide is not really North and South, but Urban vs. Rural.

Central Valley Calif is fairly conservative... as is the North... but all political control resides with the cities, who just have more voters.

So, Bay Area, and LA South along the Coasts... with Sacto... one State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2025 04:40 PM (QAkQ3)

505 Joe Rogan: “I talked to a fireman once --- this is one of the reasons that freaked me out --- and he was telling me, ‘dude one day it's just going to be the right wind.’

And fire is going to start in the right place and it's going to burn through L.A. all the way to the ocean

And there's not a f—kng thing we can do about it.’”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (kmQ35)

That happened in San Diego. In LA the hills and mountains are across the wind flow, so it is a lot harder to burn to the sea from far inland. LA is like a fort with three or more walls nested. North of SD is like living in the barrel of a flamethrower.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (n7h9X)

506 NOOD Diddy vs Maginone

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (VNX3d)

507 She's a lesbian woman gay married to another woman from Sri Lanka.
______________

Are all women lesbians now?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (YqDXo)

508 Senators who just voted no to deporting illegal aliens who have committed crimes (not counting the felony that's responsible for them being here in the first place):

Booker, Hirono, Kim, Markey, Merkley, Sanders, Schatz, Smith, Warren.

The usual suspects. The bill passed 84-9.

Remember when they were pretending that Booker was a "moderate"? That's even more ridiculous than pretending he's a heterosexual.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (W5ArC)

509 Joe Rogan: “I talked to a fireman once --- this is one of the reasons that freaked me out --- and he was telling me, ‘dude one day it's just going to be the right wind.’

And fire is going to start in the right place and it's going to burn through L.A. all the way to the ocean

And there's not a f—kng thing we can do about it.’”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 09, 2025 04:37 PM (kmQ35)

"Long has Lord Denethor foreseen this doom."
"Know about it and done NOTHING!!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (wyMQY)

510 471
Trumps border was should be 50 miles north of Sacramento.

Enough.
Posted by: Frank

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The LaRaza peninsula

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (7gh5G)

511 They rejected the VLAT 747 because it was expensive.

They could have bought a few thousand of them with the losses from these fires.

It hauls 19000 gallons vs the DC10 11000 gallons.

Posted by: torabora at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (f8rQN)

512 Noodus P. Diddy

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (J2vNu)

513 I stand corrected sir/madam.
Fetterman cosponsors GOP-led Laken Riley bill, one of the few Democrats backing it
https://tinyurl.com/mrzutt43s the
Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at January 09, 2025 04:39 PM (jQ+5q)

Strange how brain damaged Fetterman seems to be the only Democrat with any intelligence...

Guess that sets a really weird low bar?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (QAkQ3)

514 Other factors to blame: the budget cuts ordered by DEI Mayor Bass and the gonzo push to fill the fire departments with lesbians, who we all know are the equal to men in physical ability.
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It's the snizzhound factor.

Posted by: Axeman at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (krQz2)

515 The Adam Carolla X rant was a work of art.

How many real people watch Dana Bash? Only the lonely or the insane, I think. Maybe they turn the volume down.

California's experiment with a communist government isn't working very well for the people who voted the straight commie ticket. Maybe they'll stop watching Maddow and Bash and start thinking about things in a silent room. Couldn't hurt. It might save their house, or their lives.

Posted by: mrp at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (rj6Yv)

516 501 So the FNM keeps calling the German party AfD "far right"...so I looked up their leader Alice Weidel.

She's a lesbian woman gay married to another woman from Sri Lanka.

Yeah. Far right indeed.

Oh and pretty much all of her political opinions are moderate to center left by American standards.

Posted by: Some Barn Mouse at January 09, 2025 04:40 PM (t0Rmr)

If you are against being gangraped by foreigners, you are far right in European politics.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (QzM4s)

517 Problem is the divide is not really North and South, but Urban vs. Rural.

Central Valley Calif is fairly conservative... as is the North... but all political control resides with the cities, who just have more voters.

So, Bay Area, and LA South along the Coasts... with Sacto... one State.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 09, 2025 04:40 PM (QAkQ3)

Coastal versus Inland. Even fairly liberal rancher types inland of Santa Barbara area have more sense than most of the Hollywood types.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (n7h9X)

518 Newsome, hold the anchovies; Pinchot you magnificent bastard! I read the book!

Posted by: pahound at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (oD06T)

519 Hissing cockroaches are native to CA? I thought they were from Madagascar, not the USA.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 09, 2025 04:28 PM (JgYYs)
______________

LOL. I just made that up.

And for the record, there is no program to help gay polar bears to stop smoking. Yet.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (YqDXo)

520 Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a renewed push for a new state of Northern California...perhaps even a militant push.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (W/lyH)

It will never happen. Because of the hurdles in Article IV of the Constitution, Section 3, Clause 1:

"New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress."

The Cali Legislature will never agree to give-up part of the state. Even if the Legislature were all Republican. Same goes for Oregon and Washington.

Posted by: Gref at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (aBgBM)

521 506 NOOD Diddy vs Maginone
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 09, 2025 04:41 PM (VNX3d)

Posted by: m at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (VnUSN)

522 You gotta admit, California is the biggest scam since DC.

Posted by: Eromero at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (jgmnb)

523 California's experiment with a communist government isn't working very well for the people who voted the straight commie ticket. Maybe they'll stop watching Maddow and Bash and start thinking about things in a silent room. Couldn't hurt. It might save their house, or their lives.
Posted by: mrp at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (rj6Yv)

We aren't at the Holodomor quite yet.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (n7h9X)

524 They can use B52's to drop water balloons as submunitions.

Posted by: torabora at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (f8rQN)

525 466 They may already have switched, but between ranked choice voting, ballot harvesting, motor-voter, and other get-out-the (D) vote policies, it will be a cold day in Pac Palisades before the d's lose their super-majority in the legislature.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:22 PM (QGaXH)

I don't THINK we have ranked choice yet. We have a jungle primary so usually you can choose from one leftist or another, identical leftist.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:26 PM (n7h9X)
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Wouldn't be a bit surprised to see a renewed push for a new state of Northern California...perhaps even a militant push.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 09, 2025 04:33 PM (W/lyH)

I stand corrected Old-Cat. I knew we did something along those lines but it wasn't ranked-choice.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 09, 2025 04:44 PM (QGaXH)

526 Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
·
Follow
NEW: CA Governor Gavin Newsom says he is so furious at Trump for blaming him for the California fires that he won’t even respond

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"I know you are, but what am I?" is about Gavin's intellectual level.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 09, 2025 04:45 PM (RIvkX)

527 Willowed again dammit

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 09, 2025 04:46 PM (RIvkX)

528 They rejected the VLAT 747 because it was expensive.

They could have bought a few thousand of them with the losses from these fires.

It hauls 19000 gallons vs the DC10 11000 gallons.
Posted by: torabora at January 09, 2025 04:42 PM (f8rQN)

They could pretty cheaply store older equipment in depots in fire country, then when they scramble in new peeps from all over the nation they don't need to drive their trucks and leave their homes at risk. In some recent fires that happened, the locals went to N CA, for example then fires happened locally.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:47 PM (n7h9X)

529 hey can use B52's to drop water balloons as submunitions.
Posted by: torabora at January 09, 2025 04:43 PM (f8rQN)

Russia could fire hypersonics and blow out fires.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 09, 2025 04:48 PM (n7h9X)

530 101 Dr. Zygmunt Plater, an environmental law professor at Boston College, represented the snail darter before the Supreme Court.

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Am I the only one in envisioning a snail darter sitting at the plaintiff's table?

Posted by: ShainS -- Take Back and Rename the PanaMAGA Canal! at January 09, 2025 03:44 PM (RiMfV)
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I imagine there were a few in the lunch sandwiches for the lawyers, right?

Posted by: Ciampino - I'll have my darters snailless at January 09, 2025 05:03 PM (i0xsb)

531 I have ordered all water from Northern California to be held and not sent South to fight the fires in order to protect the Speckled Mountain Gay Hamster Population.

The current population is believed to be 16 and they must be preserved at all costs.

Posted by: Gov Nusome at January 09, 2025 05:05 PM (162BX)

532 But wait...what started the fucking fire? 99% chance - a homeless encampment.

That will NEVER be reported.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 09, 2025 06:06 PM (ARlwA)

533 Studies from the early 1970s "Through strategic fuel management planning, we could influence the total number and size of the (conflagration) occurrences as well as their geographic distribution and thereby mitigate the impacts of too much of the ‘wrong kind of fire'”.

Yeah, so...what happened guys?

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 09, 2025 07:40 PM (mvURQ)

534 You know, it IS possible for California to store more water AND keep a good flow through the Sacramento River Delta to 1) keep the water used for farming there fresh and 2) protect salmon—one of our commercial industries—by maintaining salmon runs and their food (the much-maligned delta smelt), We need more dams, with fish ladders, and intelligent water releases. Don't punish the Delta just because L.A. built out a megalopolis in a desert.

Posted by: Beth Elliott at January 09, 2025 08:56 PM (KxqmN)

535 I went to HS in LA. Burn baby burn. That place should just burn and be gone. My parents always ask me when I visit...nope no way I'm going to once again walk in LA......

Posted by: NC Ref at January 10, 2025 12:19 AM (NC2pt)

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