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THE MORNING RANT: America Plunges into Prolonged Deep Freeze Despite NOAA Climate Scientists Predicting a Warmer Than Average January
As much of America shivers under a deep freeze that is not going to break for several weeks, it’s a good time to take a look at the recent climate forecasts from the cannot-be-questioned “climate scientists” at NOAA.
They got it wrong, of course. Colossally wrong. The map below is what NOAA forecast back in October. “The science” showed that the South and East should expect a warm winter with above average temperatures.
We are now in the heart of winter, and NOAA got it 100% backwards, with most of the country in a prolonged cold snap bringing temperatures that are well below average.
“Multiple Arctic outbreaks to affect more than 250 million in central, eastern US into mid-January” [AccuWeather – 01/01/2025]
The central, southern and eastern United States are bracing for the coldest, most persistent frigid Arctic air in years that will come in waves and last through mid-January. Storms packing snow and ice will join in. "At this time, it looks like there will be at least three major blasts of Arctic air that will affect the Southern states," AccuWeather Meteorologist Alex DaSilva said. "The first outbreak will linger into Jan. 4, the second on Jan. 7-8 and then the third round on Jan. 11-12." Additional rounds of Arctic air may follow but be directed more toward the Midwest and Northeast.Clearly, making weather/climate predictions for more than a few weeks out is very difficult. NOAA might be entitled to some grace for this swing-and-a-miss if it wasn’t so aggressively promoting the climate apocalypse a few decades hence, and aiding the eco-communists in their quest to eliminate carbon-based freedom as the cure for the climate hoax. Of course, NOAA’s documented history of adjusting historical temperature records to create the illusion of global warming also renders any of its current “science” as assumed to be fraudulent. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. Actually, making long-range weather predictions is not difficult for NOAA, since there is only one forecast it is permitted to publish – warmer than average – with blood-red maps showing people suffering under life-sucking heat. To make a scientifically valid forecast that might actually show colder-than-average weather would put NOAA’s meteorologists at odds with the high priests of the climate church who have gained control of most government institutions. As recently as three weeks ago, NOAA was still clinging to its promise for a hot January. This map (h/t @BigJoeBastardi) from mid-December was NOAA’s January temperature forecast.
Weather is a life and death matter. Extreme weather has always been with us and always will be. Allowing NOAA to promote fraudulently inaccurate weather forecasts in service to an anti-civilizational political agenda cannot be tolerated any longer. The incoming Trump administration has a very full plate, but fixing NOAA and freeing it from the climate clerisy is critically important. [buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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I'll go let the Art thread know.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:00 AM (O7YUW)
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First
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:00 AM (W/lyH)
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Good morning good people.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (WXNFJ)
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Well...at the end of the day, second is what it is.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (W/lyH)
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Trudeau has just come out to address Canadians:
LIVE STREAM FROM CPAC
https://tinyurl.com/38axejme
LIVE STREAM FROM CPAC
https://tinyurl.com/38axejme
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (O7YUW)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with festive little caps and interpretive dance. at January 06, 2025 11:03 AM (VXcWv)
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Morning.
*Looks out at my truck ass deep in snow*
Man, why couldn't the glow ball warmists have been right just this once?
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274 Daphne or Velma?
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 10:58 AM (77rzZ)
This is a hard one. The idea that Velma is a sex goddess hiding under all that baggy clothing is a fair one, but she might also be a man hating feminist dyke.
Daphne is certainly cute and sporty.
Damn...toss-up.
Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (bVDBR)
*Looks out at my truck ass deep in snow*
Man, why couldn't the glow ball warmists have been right just this once?
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274 Daphne or Velma?
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 10:58 AM (77rzZ)
This is a hard one. The idea that Velma is a sex goddess hiding under all that baggy clothing is a fair one, but she might also be a man hating feminist dyke.
Daphne is certainly cute and sporty.
Damn...toss-up.
Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (bVDBR)
Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2025 11:03 AM (bVDBR)
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Cheer up Hordemates. Spring is only 75 days away.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:03 AM (W/lyH)
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Yeah, lots of global warming going on around here today. Probably about 7-8 inches of it by now.
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 11:03 AM (77rzZ)
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Trudeau has just come out to address Canadians:
I'd like to announce my intent to run for Governor!
I'd like to announce my intent to run for Governor!
Posted by: Justin Castreau at January 06, 2025 11:03 AM (/3Wsk)
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Still the hottest year evah.
Posted by: BignJames at January 06, 2025 11:03 AM (Yj6Os)
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The Trudeau ego is on full display. He's so full of himself he should be bursting like Mr. Creosote.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (O7YUW)
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It's a new ice age! Everyone must stop using carbon and restrict their lifestyle choices to avert catastrophe!
Fortunately, the prescription for avoiding an ice age is the same as for preventing global warming.
Fortunately, the prescription for avoiding an ice age is the same as for preventing global warming.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (/7KEl)
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Willowed: We have now entered the kinda sorta two months of Texas Winter.
Sunny, clear skies, 20ish degrees until mid-day.
Although, admittedly, if one snowflake falls it will cause wrecks all over the DFW area.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2025
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Just as down in Da Swamp. Though the natives drive badly in the dry as well as in the wet, there is an extra layer of panic evident in heavy rain or even the least snowfall.
Sunny, clear skies, 20ish degrees until mid-day.
Although, admittedly, if one snowflake falls it will cause wrecks all over the DFW area.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 06, 2025
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Just as down in Da Swamp. Though the natives drive badly in the dry as well as in the wet, there is an extra layer of panic evident in heavy rain or even the least snowfall.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (J2vNu)
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What an egomaniac Trudeau is. Wow.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (WXNFJ)
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Maybe the NOAA law enforcement dept can send their SWAT team to Old Man Winter's house and give him the fed beat down
Posted by: brak at January 06, 2025 11:05 AM (jGJov)
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Not too bad in Delaware, bit have had way shorter commute in light snow that took many hours to get home.
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 11:05 AM (0Sv+K)
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Always trust government experts comrades, especially the DEI hires!
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 06, 2025 11:05 AM (hOUT3)
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LOOK OUT
IT'S WEATHER
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (/7KEl)
But don't drink! Alcohol gives you cancer!
REEEEEEE!!!!
IT'S WEATHER
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:04 AM (/7KEl)
But don't drink! Alcohol gives you cancer!
REEEEEEE!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:05 AM (W/lyH)
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He 'intends' to resign? Why not just do it?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 06, 2025 11:06 AM (LkLld)
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Cooler winters. Fewer hurricanes. Why it is almost like global warming is some kind of grifting scam run by vile and evil communists.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 06, 2025 11:06 AM (17s+e)
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Best job to have...you can be wrong 100% of the time.
Posted by: BignJames at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (Yj6Os)
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Thx Buck.
TRUDEAU GOES DOWN, TRUDEAU GOES DOWN
TRUDEAU GOES DOWN, TRUDEAU GOES DOWN
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (c+GDc)
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The more they push the wrong predictions, the more people will ignore them. The true believers won't be affected, but normal people notice that what the "experts" said would happen isn't happening.
I hope they do this even more.
I hope they do this even more.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (zjgNU)
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Pretty normal here in Puyallup.
Cold, grey, threatening rain. Drab.
Cold, grey, threatening rain. Drab.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (W/lyH)
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He 'intends' to resign? Why not just do it?
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)
Yes. Resign. Don't talk.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:06 AM (WXNFJ)
Yes. Resign. Don't talk.
Posted by: Tuco at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (Aqu9a)
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Do any of you remember Jeanne Dixon, that old fortuneteller who used to get her predictions for the year published nationally? Never knew why she was a "thing", but early on I noticed her trick: She would make a HUGE number of predictions about all kinds of things (including weather). Most would be completely wrong, and everyone was supposed to just forget about those, can't get 'em all and that kind of thing. A few, by chance, would turn out to be plausibly correct, and she would trumpet what a great "prophet" she was based on these. Nope, she was just throwing shit at the wall and playing the odds. Made a nice career out of it.
What I see is the NOAA doing the same thing with a twist - they make predictions in line with their political junk science mindset each time, and they count on the variability in weather for it to come right every once in a while. Then they can jump and dance about how they predicted it, and that proves the Science is Settled! for all time to come. (ignoring how often they were wrong)
It's nothing more than Jeanne Dixon's old fortunetelling schtick, all dressed up and made to look sciencey. That's what the NOAA has devolved into.
What I see is the NOAA doing the same thing with a twist - they make predictions in line with their political junk science mindset each time, and they count on the variability in weather for it to come right every once in a while. Then they can jump and dance about how they predicted it, and that proves the Science is Settled! for all time to come. (ignoring how often they were wrong)
It's nothing more than Jeanne Dixon's old fortunetelling schtick, all dressed up and made to look sciencey. That's what the NOAA has devolved into.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:08 AM (wyMQY)
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Not that this matters, but AoS access and posting are both awful on an ancient iPad...
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 06, 2025 11:09 AM (hOUT3)
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Trudeau has asked the Governor General to prorogue Parliament until March 24th, and the GG has agreed to this.
Further, Trudeau "intends" to resign after the Liberal Party selects its next leader, and he's asked the Party Leader to kick that process off.
Trudeau will remain PM until that process is complete, apparently, but Parliament won't be in session (for now) but it might be back in session on March 25th and the Liberal Party leadership convention might not yet be complete.
The dude just couldn't make a clear cut of it and resign now. Nope, he had to draw it out and make himself the focus of attention for the next two+ months. His ego could allow no less.
I can't watch this anymore.
Further, Trudeau "intends" to resign after the Liberal Party selects its next leader, and he's asked the Party Leader to kick that process off.
Trudeau will remain PM until that process is complete, apparently, but Parliament won't be in session (for now) but it might be back in session on March 25th and the Liberal Party leadership convention might not yet be complete.
The dude just couldn't make a clear cut of it and resign now. Nope, he had to draw it out and make himself the focus of attention for the next two+ months. His ego could allow no less.
I can't watch this anymore.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:09 AM (O7YUW)
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Instead of "Global Warming™" it's commonly referred to as "Climate Change™" or more dire; a "Climate Crisis™."
This nomenclature allows the government(s) to enact whatever draconian mandates they wish, regardless of the actual, you know, weather.
This nomenclature allows the government(s) to enact whatever draconian mandates they wish, regardless of the actual, you know, weather.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 11:09 AM (Q4IgG)
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Turdeau stepping down? I’ll believe it when he actually does. Until then he just another power hungry communist and they never step down.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 06, 2025 11:09 AM (17s+e)
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It's nothing more than Jeanne Dixon's old fortunetelling schtick, all dressed up and made to look sciencey.
Bill Nye has entered the chat.
Bill Nye has entered the chat.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:10 AM (W/lyH)
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25 Thx Buck.
TRUDEAU GOES DOWN, TRUDEAU GOES DOWN
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (c+GDc)
Oh my!
TRUDEAU GOES DOWN, TRUDEAU GOES DOWN
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 06, 2025 11:07 AM (c+GDc)
Oh my!
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at January 06, 2025 11:10 AM (PiwSw)
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NOAA: Here are our color swatches for this winter's map:
Almogordo Orange
Rosacia
Herpes Sore
Red Skull
Death By Cinammon
Almogordo Orange
Rosacia
Herpes Sore
Red Skull
Death By Cinammon
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at January 06, 2025 11:11 AM (amTrm)
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As much of America shivers under a deep freeze that is not going to break for several weeks, it’s a good time to take a look at the recent climate forecasts from the cannot-be-questioned “climate scientists” at NOAA.
the important question is what did the old farmer's almanac predict?
the important question is what did the old farmer's almanac predict?
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (v3pYe)
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It's snowing here, but the weather mandarins assured me that the snow was far to the south.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (d9fT1)
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It started out at 62 degrees this morning and it's now 44. Clearly, something is happening.
Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (O2hvN)
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Trudeau has asked the Governor General to prorogue Parliament until March 24th, and the GG has agreed to this.
A couple questions:
1. Will the new Parliament be the same as the old Parliament? If so, is the point of the current action to try and prevent his political opponents from demonstrating what an idiot he is?
2. With Parliament on vacay, is Trudeau "acting dictator of Canada"?
A couple questions:
1. Will the new Parliament be the same as the old Parliament? If so, is the point of the current action to try and prevent his political opponents from demonstrating what an idiot he is?
2. With Parliament on vacay, is Trudeau "acting dictator of Canada"?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (ExV1e)
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36 NOAA: Here are our color swatches for this winter's map:
Almogordo Orange
Rosacia
Herpes Sore
Red Skull
Death By Cinammon
*blows kiss*
Almogordo Orange
Rosacia
Herpes Sore
Red Skull
Death By Cinammon
*blows kiss*
Posted by: cinammon carter at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (v3pYe)
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34. Bill Nye the anti science guy also received a Presidential Medal of Freedom from Biden yesterday.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (LJtM6)
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38 It's snowing here, but the weather mandarins assured me that the snow was far to the south.
remember when snow was going to be a thing of the past?
remember when snow was going to be a thing of the past?
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (v3pYe)
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In line with the Weather Service's complete miss, and probably worse long term: The USDA has changed all the climate zones this year. They "determined" that the entire country is now a half step warmer on average. This is going to badly screw up planting times if anyone pays attention to it (everyone will plant too early) and greatly increase the chance of crop loss and famines.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 06, 2025 11:14 AM (lFFaq)
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That's weather NOT CLIMATE!!!!
-- every leftist/Green asshole who was saying the NE and Ontario/Western NY having a very mild winter was CAGW
-- every leftist/Green asshole who was saying the NE and Ontario/Western NY having a very mild winter was CAGW
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 06, 2025 11:14 AM (iMpf5)
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the important question is what did the old farmer's almanac predict?
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (v3pYe)
Apparently - calm, gentle, mild.
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (v3pYe)
Apparently - calm, gentle, mild.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 06, 2025 11:14 AM (ExV1e)
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To be fair, up through the end of December was unseasonably mild for us here in south-central MO.
Now we are back in the "normal" range for us...We usually get a cold snap in January with another one in early February.
Now we are back in the "normal" range for us...We usually get a cold snap in January with another one in early February.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 06, 2025 11:14 AM (BpYfr)
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Trudeau will step down because he knows Trump will crush his ass and 75% of his country want him out.
Posted by: ripley 7542 at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (Uy/WF)
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NOAA is good for hurricane tracking and that's about it.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (wa0T/)
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Free perogies for Canada.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (/UtnQ)
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But what does this mean for the frozen concentrated orange juice market?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (+QlJh)
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No one in NOAA is making predictions. It's all AI and AGW computer models. Go read the NOAA forecast discussions for your area. You'll see that no humans are really forecasting anything.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew8)
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We have the normal several days of really cold weather here in CenTex that we get every year, just about.
Enough to get the long johns out of the 'occasional' drawer, and put the litter box in the hall bath, but nothing to get excited about.
Enough to get the long johns out of the 'occasional' drawer, and put the litter box in the hall bath, but nothing to get excited about.
Posted by: sal at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (f+FmA)
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Supposed to be mid 40s/20s here for the next week/ten days...that's about 10 degrees below the usual.
Posted by: BignJames at January 06, 2025 11:16 AM (Yj6Os)
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34. Bill Nye the anti science guy also received a Presidential Medal of Freedom from Biden yesterday.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (LJtM6)
Where's mine?!? I deserve one. I just want what's rightfully coming to me!!
Posted by: Jen the original at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (LJtM6)
Where's mine?!? I deserve one. I just want what's rightfully coming to me!!
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson, Planetarium Gift Shop Asst. Manager at January 06, 2025 11:16 AM (Aqu9a)
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1. Will the new Parliament be the same as the old Parliament? If so, is the point of the current action to try and prevent his political opponents from demonstrating what an idiot he is?
2. With Parliament on vacay, is Trudeau "acting dictator of Canada"?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (ExV1e)
1a. Yes
1b. Yes
2. Yes
2. With Parliament on vacay, is Trudeau "acting dictator of Canada"?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 06, 2025 11:12 AM (ExV1e)
1a. Yes
1b. Yes
2. Yes
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:16 AM (wyMQY)
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30 Not that this matters, but AoS access and posting are both awful on an ancient iPad...
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 06, 2025 11:09 AM (hOUT3)
Everything is awful on an ancient iPad…
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 06, 2025 11:09 AM (hOUT3)
Everything is awful on an ancient iPad…
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:18 AM (FGFJD)
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Trudeau will remain PM until that process is complete, apparently, but Parliament won't be in session (for now) but it might be back in session on March 25th and the Liberal Party leadership convention might not yet be complete.
The dude just couldn't make a clear cut of it and resign now. Nope, he had to draw it out and make himself the focus of attention for the next two+ months. His ego could allow no less.
I can't watch this anymore.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
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Eh, the longer he stays in, the greater the revulsion for his party. Its polling but the latest has the Liberal Party becoming a rump party with only about six seats if elections were held last week. NDP gained some, the Quebecois gained some, but the Conservatives would sweep in a majority similar to Labour in UK because the Liberals (like the Tories in the UK) have stayed in power far longer than their performance in government warranted.
Trudeau is hoping for a miracle possibly but he has been in power for over 11 years now (similar to the Tories in the UK) and people are tired of him.
The dude just couldn't make a clear cut of it and resign now. Nope, he had to draw it out and make himself the focus of attention for the next two+ months. His ego could allow no less.
I can't watch this anymore.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant
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Eh, the longer he stays in, the greater the revulsion for his party. Its polling but the latest has the Liberal Party becoming a rump party with only about six seats if elections were held last week. NDP gained some, the Quebecois gained some, but the Conservatives would sweep in a majority similar to Labour in UK because the Liberals (like the Tories in the UK) have stayed in power far longer than their performance in government warranted.
Trudeau is hoping for a miracle possibly but he has been in power for over 11 years now (similar to the Tories in the UK) and people are tired of him.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)
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52 No one in NOAA is making predictions. It's all AI and AGW computer models. Go read the NOAA forecast discussions for your area. You'll see that no humans are really forecasting anything.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Nice trick - write some algorithms with your fingers all over the scales, and then say "it's Science! We can't help what it predicted!!!"
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Nice trick - write some algorithms with your fingers all over the scales, and then say "it's Science! We can't help what it predicted!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:18 AM (wyMQY)
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@40/I used to have a different nic:
1. Will the new Parliament be the same as the old Parliament?
Yes. Proroguement is simply pressing "Pause" so Parliament isn't in session, no debates are happening, no new laws are getting passed, and MPs are not sitting in the House.
If so, is the point of the current action to try and prevent his political opponents from demonstrating what an idiot he is?
I think he's trying to give the Liberal Party the necessary time to hold a Leadership convention and get it over and done with so that a new Leader of the Liberal Party (and thus a new PM) can take over when the new session begins, and hopefully guide the party to better polling numbers than the current extremely low numbers they're showing now. (Those numbers equal nothing short of party devastation, possibly down below the 12 seats required to hold official party status and not be declared a bunch of independents.) That's IF the election was held today of course.
2. With Parliament on vacay, is Trudeau "acting dictator of Canada"?
He's still the PM, yes.
1. Will the new Parliament be the same as the old Parliament?
Yes. Proroguement is simply pressing "Pause" so Parliament isn't in session, no debates are happening, no new laws are getting passed, and MPs are not sitting in the House.
If so, is the point of the current action to try and prevent his political opponents from demonstrating what an idiot he is?
I think he's trying to give the Liberal Party the necessary time to hold a Leadership convention and get it over and done with so that a new Leader of the Liberal Party (and thus a new PM) can take over when the new session begins, and hopefully guide the party to better polling numbers than the current extremely low numbers they're showing now. (Those numbers equal nothing short of party devastation, possibly down below the 12 seats required to hold official party status and not be declared a bunch of independents.) That's IF the election was held today of course.
2. With Parliament on vacay, is Trudeau "acting dictator of Canada"?
He's still the PM, yes.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:18 AM (O7YUW)
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (iODuv)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (1xs6C)
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In James Spann I trust. The rest of these charlatans can pound sand.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (OUMaO)
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I'm surprised that nobody has spoken out to say that NOAA seems more than a bit negative. We need YESAA.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (GITLP)
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Up here in Maine, the forecast has our days in the 20's with our lows in the 10's here on the coast.
While chilly, this is entirely normal and average to have this kind of cold for prolonged periods of time.
It does warm up Friday and Saturday to above freezing (time to wash the car!) but then it starts getting colder again.
Very dry in the forecast however. Not a flake of snow in the 2 week forecast amazingly.
While chilly, this is entirely normal and average to have this kind of cold for prolonged periods of time.
It does warm up Friday and Saturday to above freezing (time to wash the car!) but then it starts getting colder again.
Very dry in the forecast however. Not a flake of snow in the 2 week forecast amazingly.
Posted by: Defenestratus at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (JMkEl)
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In line with the Weather Service's complete miss, and probably worse long term: The USDA has changed all the climate zones this year. They "determined" that the entire country is now a half step warmer on average. This is going to badly screw up planting times if anyone pays attention to it (everyone will plant too early) and greatly increase the chance of crop loss and famines.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
When I am elected your King, the USDA's budget goes to zero, zip, nothing, nada.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
When I am elected your King, the USDA's budget goes to zero, zip, nothing, nada.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (WXNFJ)
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447 days after Hamas launched the attacks on Israel - murders, rapes, kidnappings, stabbings, and shootings, Antony Blinken is reluctantly having to admit that the barriers to peace are the same people who started it in the first place. Who'da thunk it?
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (GITLP)
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‘ making long-range weather predictions is not difficult for NOAA, since there is only one forecast it is permitted to publish – warmer than average’
Weeks like this one make me look forward to global warming. I wonder how many people that’s true for.
Weeks like this one make me look forward to global warming. I wonder how many people that’s true for.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (jbnUc)
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I'm surprised that nobody has spoken out to say that NOAA seems more than a bit negative. We need YESAA.
Posted by: SMOD
ISWYDT.
Posted by: SMOD
ISWYDT.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (SDPbT)
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (/7KEl)
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Yessir, all that global warming and man-made climate change is going to banish winter and melt the polar ice caps! Any year now!
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (XjTSo)
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Robert, I'll just presume you've heard the song about the 40,000 pounds of bananas. You take care of yourself out there.
Friend of my dad's was a beer truck driver for Buckeye. Most days that meant a straight truck with side slider doors. But he had a full CDL, and when they got bought, there was a stranded semi load of concentrated hops in San Francisco, and they flew him out to drive it home. He got caught in one of those Donner-like forced layovers at the peak of the Sierras, and was a guest of the state for two weeks. He saw that snowstorm in his dreams for the rest of his life.
The Soviets had ten cities of over 100,000 people north of the Arctic Circle. They called them "Science Cities," and they were totally dependent on an unending convoy of trucks on ice roads. If you got out of your truck, you were a goner. Along the road there were concrete pylons with the steering wheels of WWII trucks embedded in them, as monuments to The Unknown Truck Driver.
They were Studebaker steering wheels.
Friend of my dad's was a beer truck driver for Buckeye. Most days that meant a straight truck with side slider doors. But he had a full CDL, and when they got bought, there was a stranded semi load of concentrated hops in San Francisco, and they flew him out to drive it home. He got caught in one of those Donner-like forced layovers at the peak of the Sierras, and was a guest of the state for two weeks. He saw that snowstorm in his dreams for the rest of his life.
The Soviets had ten cities of over 100,000 people north of the Arctic Circle. They called them "Science Cities," and they were totally dependent on an unending convoy of trucks on ice roads. If you got out of your truck, you were a goner. Along the road there were concrete pylons with the steering wheels of WWII trucks embedded in them, as monuments to The Unknown Truck Driver.
They were Studebaker steering wheels.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (zdLoL)
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It's chilly here and we got a dusting of snow last night.
What annoys me is the tone of the weather reports that sound as if I should be alarmed about having cold weather in January and we're all gonna die.
What annoys me is the tone of the weather reports that sound as if I should be alarmed about having cold weather in January and we're all gonna die.
Posted by: Emmie at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (Sf2cq)
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I'm surprised that nobody has spoken out to say that NOAA seems more than a bit negative. We need YESAA.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (GITLP)
On it!
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (GITLP)
On it!
Posted by: Jar Jar Binks at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (Aqu9a)
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52 No one in NOAA is making predictions. It's all AI and AGW computer models. Go read the NOAA forecast discussions for your area. You'll see that no humans are really forecasting anything.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
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They ain't foolin' anyone.
We all know they're auguring from chicken entrails, casting knucklebones, and reading tarot cards to make their "predictions."
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
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They ain't foolin' anyone.
We all know they're auguring from chicken entrails, casting knucklebones, and reading tarot cards to make their "predictions."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (BpYfr)
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57 30 Not that this matters, but AoS access and posting are both awful on an ancient iPad...
Posted by: Hrothgar
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More a matter of Safari truly sucking as a web browser which is why I tried and discarded using a Mac laptop for my office computer. Sort of like Chrome on the PC/Android side--Safari is the underlying codebase that has a superstructure of a skin if you install an 'alternate' browser on Apple Systems.
AoS works quite well on a PC or Android device with Brave installed (which is a skin over Chrome plus stripping out some of Googles spyware features).
Posted by: Hrothgar
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More a matter of Safari truly sucking as a web browser which is why I tried and discarded using a Mac laptop for my office computer. Sort of like Chrome on the PC/Android side--Safari is the underlying codebase that has a superstructure of a skin if you install an 'alternate' browser on Apple Systems.
AoS works quite well on a PC or Android device with Brave installed (which is a skin over Chrome plus stripping out some of Googles spyware features).
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: Defenestratus at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM
Ayuh. Same down here. Clear and sunny all week, highs in the 20s and 30s, lows in the teens. Put another way, January.
Ayuh. Same down here. Clear and sunny all week, highs in the 20s and 30s, lows in the teens. Put another way, January.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (+QlJh)
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Important addendum:
Petroleum and natural gas aren't actually "fossil fuels" at all. Only coal is.
They were called "fossil" fuels by the oil industry to brand them as scarce and precious a hundred years ago or so, but geologists have known since the 1800s that that was bunk. Not least because the vast deposits are well below the fossil layer.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Petroleum and natural gas aren't actually "fossil fuels" at all. Only coal is.
They were called "fossil" fuels by the oil industry to brand them as scarce and precious a hundred years ago or so, but geologists have known since the 1800s that that was bunk. Not least because the vast deposits are well below the fossil layer.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (Epeb0)
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Trudeau is hoping for a miracle possibly but he has been in power for over 11 years now (similar to the Tories in the UK) and people are tired of him.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)
The best part about this is that the longer Trudeau hangs onto the office (looks like til March 25, at least) the less chance any other Liberal Party leader will have to make his mark or gain support before the next election.
Trudeau's narcism is guaranteeing the failure of his immediate successor.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)
The best part about this is that the longer Trudeau hangs onto the office (looks like til March 25, at least) the less chance any other Liberal Party leader will have to make his mark or gain support before the next election.
Trudeau's narcism is guaranteeing the failure of his immediate successor.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (wyMQY)
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@70/Don Black: Yup, he has announced he "intends" to resign, once the Liberal Party successfully concludes a leadership convention and has selected a new leader.
How much do you want to bet he interferes in that process, trying to push a handpicked replacement that's been loyal to him, so he can try the Obama "govern from behind the closed curtain" gambit?
How much do you want to bet he interferes in that process, trying to push a handpicked replacement that's been loyal to him, so he can try the Obama "govern from behind the closed curtain" gambit?
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:22 AM (O7YUW)
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In line with the Weather Service's complete miss, and probably worse long term: The USDA has changed all the climate zones this year. They "determined" that the entire country is now a half step warmer on average. This is going to badly screw up planting times if anyone pays attention to it (everyone will plant too early) and greatly increase the chance of crop loss and famines.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
When I am elected your King, the USDA's budget goes to zero, zip, nothing, nada.
Posted by: Tonypete
I will have the first 365 Chins in a Chinese phone book alternately predict the weather.
They couldn't do any worse.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
When I am elected your King, the USDA's budget goes to zero, zip, nothing, nada.
Posted by: Tonypete
I will have the first 365 Chins in a Chinese phone book alternately predict the weather.
They couldn't do any worse.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:22 AM (SDPbT)
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37 As much of America shivers under a deep freeze that is not going to break for several weeks, it’s a good time to take a look at the recent climate forecasts from the cannot-be-questioned “climate scientists” at NOAA.
the important question is what did the old farmer's almanac predict?
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The Farmer's Almanac is not perfect, but it's been more or less on the money for much of the USA for a much longer time than the NOAA.
the important question is what did the old farmer's almanac predict?
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The Farmer's Almanac is not perfect, but it's been more or less on the money for much of the USA for a much longer time than the NOAA.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (XjTSo)
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It seems to be a trend for our local 3-day forecasts for them to say something like: "40% chance of precipitation, possibly heavy in some areas."
Turns out they are never wrong.
Turns out they are never wrong.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (991eG)
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44 In line with the Weather Service's complete miss, and probably worse long term: The USDA has changed all the climate zones this year. They "determined" that the entire country is now a half step warmer on average. This is going to badly screw up planting times if anyone pays attention to it (everyone will plant too early) and greatly increase the chance of crop loss and famines.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 06, 2025 11:14 AM (lFFaq)
Gee, it's almost like crop loss is "the purpose of the system".
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 06, 2025 11:14 AM (lFFaq)
Gee, it's almost like crop loss is "the purpose of the system".
Posted by: Emmie at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (Sf2cq)
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Just watch Ryan Hall Y'all on You Tube. He's a meteorologist and will show you all the models, but won't put a lot of weight on long term ones. He called this storm and got it right
Also, pay attention to volcanic eruptions putting ash into the air. Will cause a cold spell every time.
Also, pay attention to volcanic eruptions putting ash into the air. Will cause a cold spell every time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (NQtI0)
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They were called "fossil" fuels by the oil industry to brand them as scarce and precious a hundred years ago or so, but geologists have known since the 1800s that that was bunk. Not least because the vast deposits are well below the fossil layer.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly
So oil is not dead dinosaurs? 🦕
It's like my whole life is a lie.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly
So oil is not dead dinosaurs? 🦕
It's like my whole life is a lie.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:24 AM (SDPbT)
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Weather Rock is never wrong.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 06, 2025 11:24 AM (Aqu9a)
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It's worth noting that a severe cold snap doesn't invalidate the winter as a whole being above average temps. Joe Bastardi himself, no friend to climate scientology, had a similar winter forecast posted in October for premium subscribers on his site.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (2ocoG)
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The Weather Channel app on my phone started coloring its map in a pale orange (think HOT!) anytime the temperatures are above 60. John Coleman would be furious.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (ARklu)
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We all know they're auguring from chicken entrails, casting knucklebones, and reading tarot cards to make their "predictions."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (BpYfr)
wooly worms
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (BpYfr)
wooly worms
Posted by: BignJames at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (Yj6Os)
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24 Best job to have...you can be wrong 100% of the time.
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For my money, the best weather reporting & predictions can be found on Mexican news broadcasts.
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For my money, the best weather reporting & predictions can be found on Mexican news broadcasts.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (XjTSo)
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So oil is not dead dinosaurs? 🦕
It's like my whole life is a lie.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:24 AM (SDPbT)
RIP my childhood memories of the Sinclair logo…
It's like my whole life is a lie.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:24 AM (SDPbT)
RIP my childhood memories of the Sinclair logo…
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (FGFJD)
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70 so Castreau resigned without actually resigning
called it
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (/7KEl)
Schrodinger's PM
called it
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:20 AM (/7KEl)
Schrodinger's PM
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (fbfJs)
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The best part about this is that the longer Trudeau hangs onto the office (looks like til March 25, at least) the less chance any other Liberal Party leader will have to make his mark or gain support before the next election.
Trudeau's narcism is guaranteeing the failure of his immediate successor.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Just like the waning Biden administration drift is not helping Democrats rally around their party and his popularity continues to crater.
Trudeau's narcism is guaranteeing the failure of his immediate successor.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Just like the waning Biden administration drift is not helping Democrats rally around their party and his popularity continues to crater.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)
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"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future".
Posted by: Zombie Yogi Berra at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (G5+As)
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They were Studebaker steering wheels.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
I was unaware until recently that Studebaker reached out to Toyota and Nissan during the late 60's to see if they could work out some type of merger.
Clearly, that didn't work out.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
I was unaware until recently that Studebaker reached out to Toyota and Nissan during the late 60's to see if they could work out some type of merger.
Clearly, that didn't work out.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (WXNFJ)
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The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (Epeb0)
abiotic genesis!
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (Epeb0)
abiotic genesis!
Posted by: BignJames at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (Yj6Os)
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For my money, the best weather reporting & predictions can be found on Mexican news broadcasts.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
And delivered by busty weather babes.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
And delivered by busty weather babes.
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (77rzZ)
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85 Just watch Ryan Hall Y'all on You Tube. He's a meteorologist and will show you all the models, but won't put a lot of weight on long term ones. He called this storm and got it right
He called it like 5 times. Seriously dude put out like 5 videos in the span of 3 days on this storm. I was like "really dude, thats more than enough".
He called it like 5 times. Seriously dude put out like 5 videos in the span of 3 days on this storm. I was like "really dude, thats more than enough".
Posted by: Defenestratus at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (JMkEl)
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So oil is not dead dinosaurs? 🦕
It's like my whole life is a lie.
Right, and that's why "Peak Oil" is also a lie.
It's like my whole life is a lie.
Right, and that's why "Peak Oil" is also a lie.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (2ocoG)
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For my money, the best weather reporting & predictions can be found on Mexican news broadcasts.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (XjTSo)
Oh wait, there’s a weather report happening on Mexican news broadcasts? ;-)
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (XjTSo)
Oh wait, there’s a weather report happening on Mexican news broadcasts? ;-)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (FGFJD)
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All this proves is that NOAA needs moar money to make better predictions!
Posted by: Frizzelda Q. Screetchan, Ed.D at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (PiwSw)
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Bill Nye the anti science guy also received a Presidential Medal of Freedom from Biden yesterday.
Posted by: Jen the original
And you get a Medal of Freedom, and you get a Medal of Freedom,
And you get a Medal of Freedom....
Posted by: Jen the original
And you get a Medal of Freedom, and you get a Medal of Freedom,
And you get a Medal of Freedom....
Posted by: Oprah Biden, talk show host to the country at January 06, 2025 11:27 AM (vcOmj)
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83 It seems to be a trend for our local 3-day forecasts for them to say something like: "40% chance of precipitation, possibly heavy in some areas."
Turns out they are never wrong.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (991eG)
Years ago our local news channel had the Sheriff in the studio publicizing something or other, and on a whim they let him do the weather that night. (He was known to be a pretty funny guy, btw) I never forgot his line - he read off the report, then squinted and said "well it says here there's a 20% chance of rain tomorrow. Well, that means there's an 80% chance that ain't shit gonna happen. Good night!"
Turns out they are never wrong.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (991eG)
Years ago our local news channel had the Sheriff in the studio publicizing something or other, and on a whim they let him do the weather that night. (He was known to be a pretty funny guy, btw) I never forgot his line - he read off the report, then squinted and said "well it says here there's a 20% chance of rain tomorrow. Well, that means there's an 80% chance that ain't shit gonna happen. Good night!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:27 AM (wyMQY)
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Local news screen crawl said: "Winter wetther later this week. Update at 10 p.m.
I told my wife, "That may turn out to be the worst spell of weather we've seen in years."
I told my wife, "That may turn out to be the worst spell of weather we've seen in years."
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:27 AM (991eG)
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Robert,
I left a note last thread. Be sure and check the roads in KS. The northeastern part was shut down yesterday, including I70. Was -1 here this morning, expected to get to 20. It may still be slick.
I left a note last thread. Be sure and check the roads in KS. The northeastern part was shut down yesterday, including I70. Was -1 here this morning, expected to get to 20. It may still be slick.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (NQtI0)
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Breaking the 200th post rule for Breaking News...
Glorious Leader Trudeau steps down.
Good Luck Canada...you're gonna need it.
Glorious Leader Trudeau steps down.
Good Luck Canada...you're gonna need it.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (XjTSo)
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Bill Nye the anti science guy also received a Presidential Medal of Freedom from Biden yesterday.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (LJtM6)
Well, he is certainly free of accuracy.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 06, 2025 11:13 AM (LJtM6)
Well, he is certainly free of accuracy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (8zz6B)
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Trudeau's narcism is guaranteeing the failure of his immediate successor.
In many ways, this is the story of Obama.
In many ways, this is the story of Obama.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (2ocoG)
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21 degrees here this morning in NE Texas. The normal overnight low for this time of year is supposed to be about 36.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (Rcnd3)
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many people think petroleum is 'dead dinosaurs'
actually it is what happens to the sediment and organic sludge at the bottoms of ancient lakes and seas that gets compressed and metamorphicated* over millions of years and comes out as Valvoline 5 W 30
* I just made that up
actually it is what happens to the sediment and organic sludge at the bottoms of ancient lakes and seas that gets compressed and metamorphicated* over millions of years and comes out as Valvoline 5 W 30
* I just made that up
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (/7KEl)
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So...what time is the EC vote certification scheduled for?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 06, 2025 11:29 AM (LxER7)
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Canada is a fagz country.
Posted by: Puddinhead at January 06, 2025 11:29 AM (/UtnQ)
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North Georgia is braced for a dusting of snow.
Posted by: fd at January 06, 2025 11:29 AM (O2hvN)
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unless I'm wrong
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:29 AM (/7KEl)
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The Wooly Bear is never wrong. Saw an almost all black one in October. Knew we were fucked this winter. NOAA are fools for ignoring the all-knowing Wooly Bear.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 06, 2025 11:30 AM (eb5mD)
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>>Ayuh. Same down here. Clear and sunny all week, highs in the 20s and 30s, lows in the teens. Put another way, January.
Same. No snow in the 10 day forecast.
Same. No snow in the 10 day forecast.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 06, 2025 11:30 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:30 AM (2ocoG)
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88 It's worth noting that a severe cold snap doesn't invalidate the winter as a whole being above average temps. Joe Bastardi himself, no friend to climate scientology, had a similar winter forecast posted in October for premium subscribers on his site.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (2ocoG)
Which supports the contention that all long range weather forecasting is a racket, and someone with a dartboard could turn in the same or better results.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (2ocoG)
Which supports the contention that all long range weather forecasting is a racket, and someone with a dartboard could turn in the same or better results.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (wyMQY)
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I hope Trump brings back the red and green teams for setting policies like he did with klimate chunge, and skews the teams towards skeptics. Resetting the Overton for every political topic is a needed thing.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (IG4Id)
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85 Just watch Ryan Hall Y'all on You Tube. He's a meteorologist and will show you all the models, but won't put a lot of weight on long term ones. He called this storm and got it right
Also, pay attention to volcanic eruptions putting ash into the air. Will cause a cold spell every time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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I discovered Ryan Hall on YT from someone commenting here. Watched him during his long livestream of a massive tornado outbreak with one particular cell having a tornado stretching from Arkansas to Kentucky a year or two ago.
Unlike the weathermen stereotypes, Ryan shuts up when he has nothing (his live stream coverage of hurricanes this year was spectacular) but carefully discusses when an important change happens such as the turn of Hurricane Helene in the very early hours of the morning that caused NC to get hit instead of the Atlanta track that others were predicting.
Also, pay attention to volcanic eruptions putting ash into the air. Will cause a cold spell every time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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I discovered Ryan Hall on YT from someone commenting here. Watched him during his long livestream of a massive tornado outbreak with one particular cell having a tornado stretching from Arkansas to Kentucky a year or two ago.
Unlike the weathermen stereotypes, Ryan shuts up when he has nothing (his live stream coverage of hurricanes this year was spectacular) but carefully discusses when an important change happens such as the turn of Hurricane Helene in the very early hours of the morning that caused NC to get hit instead of the Atlanta track that others were predicting.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (ctrM5)
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It's that warm Arctic air driving this cold snap, Buck!
Posted by: callsign claymore at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (AIHT7)
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RIP my childhood memories of the Sinclair logo…
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
Major intersection growing up:
Dunkin Donuts, Sinclair Station, Gulf Station & Shell Station.
Can't remember a password I created yesterday, but I can remember how an intersection was set up from 50 years ago.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
Major intersection growing up:
Dunkin Donuts, Sinclair Station, Gulf Station & Shell Station.
Can't remember a password I created yesterday, but I can remember how an intersection was set up from 50 years ago.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
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Hmm. Just after the Remington art thread.
I question the timing.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (1xs6C)
I noticed that as well.
COB conspiracy???
I question the timing.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 06, 2025 11:19 AM (1xs6C)
I noticed that as well.
COB conspiracy???
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (W/lyH)
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110 21 degrees here this morning in NE Texas. The normal overnight low for this time of year is supposed to be about 36.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (Rcnd3)
We haven't forgetten the Great Freeze of about 3 years ago. (or was it four now?)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (Rcnd3)
We haven't forgetten the Great Freeze of about 3 years ago. (or was it four now?)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (wyMQY)
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (v3pYe)
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In Dallas, the local maniacs refuse to heed even the slightest precautions for driving in wet or snowy weather, resulting in the inevitable multi-car pile-up. Thanks retards!
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (GoY7t)
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For a week like this, I always ask: Where is that global warming they promised me?
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (P7Iz+)
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There will probably be a Spring election with the new Liberal leader/PM at the helm [even if he tries to hold it off until the mandatory October election] but something funny is that Justin, like Jill, has loved the perks and milked them for all they're worth the past 10 years and the biggest perk of all -- the G7 -- is being held in Alberta in June. [Not that it's possible for him to stay PM until then, having resigned as Liberal Party leader today.]
Ha, ha. Loser!
Ha, ha. Loser!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (iMpf5)
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Greenland's sounding pretty good right now.
Posted by: look whats not at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (nakGR)
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I hope Trump brings back the red and green teams for setting policies like he did with klimate chunge, and skews the teams towards skeptics. Resetting the Overton for every political topic is a needed thing.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
I'll wager that PDJT will exceed Slo Joe's career nine cabinet meetings within the first month of his term.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
I'll wager that PDJT will exceed Slo Joe's career nine cabinet meetings within the first month of his term.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (WXNFJ)
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I started an Audible book called Northeaster, about a blizzard in Maine in 1952. Stopped it a few times because I couldn't deal with how dumb people were. It's winter. If you drive,you should have a full tank of gas, and supplies in case you break down. That means warm clothes and a blanket, some sort of light, water and snacks.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (NQtI0)
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So we won't have Justine Trudeau to kick around any more. He just resigned.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (paSBy)
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> So...what time is the EC vote certification scheduled for?
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I don't think there will be one
DC weather today:
Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 29. Northeast wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
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I don't think there will be one
DC weather today:
Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 29. Northeast wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (/7KEl)
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No one in NOAA is making predictions. It's all AI and AGW computer models. Go read the NOAA forecast discussions for your area. You'll see that no humans are really forecasting anything.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Yep. The computers and AI have agency, just like the killer truck in New Orleans, and the killer gun in every school shooting.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Yep. The computers and AI have agency, just like the killer truck in New Orleans, and the killer gun in every school shooting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (8zz6B)
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Manely on the Plane
A meteorologist named Heather
Had a brain that was light as a feather
Her forecast this week
Called for "reign", "hayle" and "sleek"
Seems we're in for a bad spell of weather
A meteorologist named Heather
Had a brain that was light as a feather
Her forecast this week
Called for "reign", "hayle" and "sleek"
Seems we're in for a bad spell of weather
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (991eG)
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Judicial Watch:
NEW: Emails Tie "Black Hand" Nancy Pelosi to Special Treatment for Ashli Babbitt Killer!
NEW: Emails Tie "Black Hand" Nancy Pelosi to Special Treatment for Ashli Babbitt Killer!
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (GITLP)
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128 For a week like this, I always ask: Where is that global warming they promised me?
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (P7Iz+)
Brought a puppy home last Thursday. Turns out little pups aren’t fans of the cold. The house training proceeds, but is very difficult. :-|
Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM (P7Iz+)
Brought a puppy home last Thursday. Turns out little pups aren’t fans of the cold. The house training proceeds, but is very difficult. :-|
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:34 AM (FGFJD)
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Also, pay attention to volcanic eruptions putting ash into the air. Will cause a cold spell every time.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (NQtI0)
Come on Nst, you sound like you are implying that the actual weather is governed by natural global forces beyond the control of our selected bureaucrats that can no longer blame the starving peasants for climate disaster.
I'd almost bet you were a COVID denier too!
;-)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (NQtI0)
Come on Nst, you sound like you are implying that the actual weather is governed by natural global forces beyond the control of our selected bureaucrats that can no longer blame the starving peasants for climate disaster.
I'd almost bet you were a COVID denier too!
;-)
Posted by: Hrothgar at January 06, 2025 11:34 AM (hOUT3)
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Looks like the long-term weather modelers don't talk much with the polar vortex modelers. This cold spell has been predicted for some time. The long-term folks are probably worried about their rice bowls getting tipped over.
Nah.
Nah.
Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at January 06, 2025 11:34 AM (QB+5g)
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It’s hilarious how the media freaks out over weather. Yes it’s January. Get this ….its cold!!! Whaaaaaa?
And in July, wait for it…it will be hot. No teally, it will be.
Yet the news acts as if these events are once in a lifetime events.
No matter how much you hate them….
And in July, wait for it…it will be hot. No teally, it will be.
Yet the news acts as if these events are once in a lifetime events.
No matter how much you hate them….
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:34 AM (5y+cL)
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No one in NOAA is making predictions. It's all AI and AGW computer models. Go read the NOAA forecast discussions for your area. You'll see that no humans are really forecasting anything.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Yep. The computers and AI have agency, just like the killer truck in New Orleans, and the killer gun in every school shooting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil
No one wants to put their name to it in case it doesn't pan out.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Yep. The computers and AI have agency, just like the killer truck in New Orleans, and the killer gun in every school shooting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil
No one wants to put their name to it in case it doesn't pan out.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (SDPbT)
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83 It seems to be a trend for our local 3-day forecasts for them to say something like: "40% chance of precipitation, possibly heavy in some areas."
Turns out they are never wrong.
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Well, out here in Ohio, where we have entire counties the size of Rhode Island, it's possible to have a 40% chance of precipitation overall for a county. But as any gamer knows, you don't roll the % for the entire county, you roll for each community in the county, to see where the actual precipitation hits. So down here in Lemon Township, we get get some rain, as does Trenton across the river. But Oxford get and Middletown get none. West Chester only gets a little, but they still drive poorly to be polite to the rest of us.
Turns out they are never wrong.
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Well, out here in Ohio, where we have entire counties the size of Rhode Island, it's possible to have a 40% chance of precipitation overall for a county. But as any gamer knows, you don't roll the % for the entire county, you roll for each community in the county, to see where the actual precipitation hits. So down here in Lemon Township, we get get some rain, as does Trenton across the river. But Oxford get and Middletown get none. West Chester only gets a little, but they still drive poorly to be polite to the rest of us.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (XjTSo)
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The Soviets had ten cities of over 100,000 people north of the Arctic Circle. They called them "Science Cities," and they were totally dependent on an unending convoy of trucks on ice roads. If you got out of your truck, you were a goner. Along the road there were concrete pylons with the steering wheels of WWII trucks embedded in them, as monuments to The Unknown Truck Driver.
They were Studebaker steering wheels.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
Something like two thirds of the trucks the soviets used in WWII were American donations.
They were Studebaker steering wheels.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver
Something like two thirds of the trucks the soviets used in WWII were American donations.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (lTGtQ)
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Feel good moment. Team USA wins the World Junior Hockey Championship.
No kneeling here.
https://tinyurl.com/495px5ps
No kneeling here.
https://tinyurl.com/495px5ps
Posted by: JackStraw at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (LkLld)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (jbnUc)
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21 degrees here this morning in NE Texas. The normal overnight low for this time of year is supposed to be about 36.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (Rcnd3)
We haven't forgetten the Great Freeze of about 3 years ago. (or was it four now?)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM
2021 IIRC. That one killed all of our shrubs and most of our rose bushes.
Today I had to put the heat pump on "electric" for our heat. That is gonna add a couple of hundred dollars to my electric bill this month thanks to this cold spell.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:28 AM (Rcnd3)
We haven't forgetten the Great Freeze of about 3 years ago. (or was it four now?)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 06, 2025 11:32 AM
2021 IIRC. That one killed all of our shrubs and most of our rose bushes.
Today I had to put the heat pump on "electric" for our heat. That is gonna add a couple of hundred dollars to my electric bill this month thanks to this cold spell.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (Rcnd3)
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Biden giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Clinton.
The guy who abandoned Americans in Afghanistan gives award to woman who abandoned Americans in Benghazi.
Disgusting.
The guy who abandoned Americans in Afghanistan gives award to woman who abandoned Americans in Benghazi.
Disgusting.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (W/lyH)
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He called it like 5 times. Seriously dude put out like 5 videos in the span of 3 days on this storm. I was like "really dude, thats more than enough".
Posted by: Defenestratus
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Most of his videos, other than his livestream during actual storm systems, are about 10-15 minutes in length. Now, compare that with WeatherNation or the Weather Channel doing it all day.
It's his living and he does a pretty good job without overstating it unlike a lot of other YT weather video producers.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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Most of his videos, other than his livestream during actual storm systems, are about 10-15 minutes in length. Now, compare that with WeatherNation or the Weather Channel doing it all day.
It's his living and he does a pretty good job without overstating it unlike a lot of other YT weather video producers.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (ctrM5)
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Canada is a popcorn fart of a country. They like to run their mouths about "human rights" and "free health care for all" and other bullshit but no one really cares what they are about or what they do. Hell, we own the place and we don't give two shits about them.
Posted by: Xi Jinping, Head Chinese Commie Prick at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (lX1hk)
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Buck: Apologies for the timing of the breaking news I announced, but Trudeau always has inconvenient timing, just ask his ex-wife.
Thank you, thank you, I'm here till Thursday. Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waitress!
Thank you, thank you, I'm here till Thursday. Try the veal and don't forget to tip your waitress!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (O7YUW)
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DC weather today:
Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 29. Northeast wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (/7KEl)
Lemme guess it’s a snow day and every fedgov worker had the day off?
Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 29. Northeast wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (/7KEl)
Lemme guess it’s a snow day and every fedgov worker had the day off?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (5y+cL)
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I've seen comments on Hall videos, thanking him for saving someone's life, by telling them to take immediate shelter from a tornado. I amd so tired of "the sky is falling" weather forecasts. People will start ignoring them
Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (NQtI0)
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The weather pattern has been changing from El Nino to La Nina (Hable' Espanol??), which means that we are getting more normal westerly winds, which are also more affected by northern air patterns, pushing colder arctic air into the middle and east of the country.
El Nino (so last year!) was pushing warmer (and wetter!) equatorial air into the south and the east coast, resulting in a mild winter for a lot of folks in 2023-24.
El Nino (so last year!) was pushing warmer (and wetter!) equatorial air into the south and the east coast, resulting in a mild winter for a lot of folks in 2023-24.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (vcOmj)
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Yep. The computers and AI have agency, just like the killer truck in New Orleans, and the killer gun in every school shooting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (8zz6B)
“I put in all this garbage info into the system, and this is what it’s spitting out. I’ve got to trust what the model says!!”
~ Computer Model Jockeys everywhere
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2025 11:33 AM (8zz6B)
“I put in all this garbage info into the system, and this is what it’s spitting out. I’ve got to trust what the model says!!”
~ Computer Model Jockeys everywhere
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (FGFJD)
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Can't remember a password I created yesterday, but I can remember how an intersection was set up from 50 years ago.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
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I think I could faithfully draw a map of my elementary school playgrounds.
The very formative years ... I remember the civil defense sirens going off at noon every Saturday.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
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I think I could faithfully draw a map of my elementary school playgrounds.
The very formative years ... I remember the civil defense sirens going off at noon every Saturday.
Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 06, 2025 11:36 AM (HDU5E)
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My local weather people are giving stupid advice on air because we have 1/2” of sleet/snow on the ground. I’m not stupid. I can manage this crisis.
Posted by: High Tech at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (37cEZ)
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Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 29. Northeast wind around 9 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.
Posted by: Don Black
That's what's predicted here for Wednesday night thru Thursday night into Friday.
Posted by: Don Black
That's what's predicted here for Wednesday night thru Thursday night into Friday.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (SDPbT)
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So we won't have Justine Trudeau to kick around any more. He just resigned.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
The turd said he would resign once a new liberal leader was selected with a national process, who knows how long that will take?
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
The turd said he would resign once a new liberal leader was selected with a national process, who knows how long that will take?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (lTGtQ)
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All, or at least most of the National Weather Service's forecasting tools (models) are available on their various sites. Someone with a fair amount of knowledge of statistical modeling, thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, etc. would likely have a field day picking them apart.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (Q4IgG)
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National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration number of employees
321 NOAA Commissioned Corps (201
11,000+ civilian employees (2015)
.. why are these people still employed ?
321 NOAA Commissioned Corps (201
11,000+ civilian employees (2015)
.. why are these people still employed ?
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (GITLP)
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Today I had to put the heat pump on "electric" for our heat. That is gonna add a couple of hundred dollars to my electric bill this month thanks to this cold spell.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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We use our fireplaces (inserts) during peak cold weather as it increases the temperature inside leading to reduced use of our emergency heat strips. 8kw emergency heat strips run your bill up in a hurry.
Posted by: Mister Scott
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We use our fireplaces (inserts) during peak cold weather as it increases the temperature inside leading to reduced use of our emergency heat strips. 8kw emergency heat strips run your bill up in a hurry.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5)
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So we won't have Justine Trudeau to kick around any more. He just resigned.
He resigned, but not effective for at least 2 months if I understand correctly.
He resigned, but not effective for at least 2 months if I understand correctly.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (2ocoG)
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Clearly, making weather/climate predictions for more than a few weeks out is very difficult. NOAA might be entitled to some grace for this swing-and-a-miss if it wasn’t so aggressively promoting the climate apocalypse a few decades hence, and aiding the eco-communists in their quest to eliminate carbon-based freedom as the cure for the climate hoax.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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FBl agents eager for new leadership after New Orleans terror attack; decorum, procedures breached [ Embarrassed by the DEI hire ]
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (GITLP)
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So we won't have Justine Trudeau to kick around any more. He just resigned.
He resigned, but not effective for at least 2 months if I understand correctly.
So....a modified sashay, as opposed to a full flounce?
He resigned, but not effective for at least 2 months if I understand correctly.
So....a modified sashay, as opposed to a full flounce?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (xCA6C)
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Trudeau knows only one thing--grifting. He will NOT go willingly. His announcement today was merely to buy him more time to figure out where his next grifting opportunity lies.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (TN0g+)
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Justin Welby officially resigned at midnight Monday, ending his tenure as the archbishop of Canterbury.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (GITLP)
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Today I had to put the heat pump on "electric" for our heat. That is gonna add a couple of hundred dollars to my electric bill this month thanks to this cold spell.
Posted by: Mister Scott
My first house didn't have natural gas heat, it had electric.
Never again.
Posted by: Mister Scott
My first house didn't have natural gas heat, it had electric.
Never again.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:39 AM (lTGtQ)
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El Nino kind of means "the child"
La Nina kind of means "the bitchy child".
I think the climate is actually saved because today New York City begins charging a $9 per car fee to drive south of 60th Street during peak traffic hours of the day.
Well, that's what they told me on Linked In news.
Back to your lives, citizens.
La Nina kind of means "the bitchy child".
I think the climate is actually saved because today New York City begins charging a $9 per car fee to drive south of 60th Street during peak traffic hours of the day.
Well, that's what they told me on Linked In news.
Back to your lives, citizens.
Posted by: A face in the crowd.... at January 06, 2025 11:39 AM (vcOmj)
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“I put in all this garbage info into the system, and this is what it’s spitting out. I’ve got to trust what the model says!!”
~ Computer Model Jockeys everywhere
It's worth noting there have always been accurate, correct climate models. But the UN and NOAA ignore the ones that don't say communism is the only answer.
~ Computer Model Jockeys everywhere
It's worth noting there have always been accurate, correct climate models. But the UN and NOAA ignore the ones that don't say communism is the only answer.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:39 AM (2ocoG)
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we won't have Justine Trudeau to kick around any more. He just resigned.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
Make Canada Pretty Okay Again
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
Make Canada Pretty Okay Again
Posted by: Josephistan at January 06, 2025 11:39 AM (9XPe8)
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159 So we won't have Justine Trudeau to kick around any more. He just resigned.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
The turd said he would resign once a new liberal leader was selected with a national process, who knows how long that will take?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (lTGtQ)
More of a promise to resign at some undetermined future date.
What a toad.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
The turd said he would resign once a new liberal leader was selected with a national process, who knows how long that will take?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:37 AM (lTGtQ)
More of a promise to resign at some undetermined future date.
What a toad.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 06, 2025 11:40 AM (OA79/)
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All, or at least most of the National Weather Service's forecasting tools (models) are available on their various sites. Someone with a fair amount of knowledge of statistical modeling, thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, etc. would likely have a field day picking them apart.
I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:40 AM (xCA6C)
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I think I could faithfully draw a map of my elementary school playgrounds.
The very formative years ... I remember the civil defense sirens going off at noon every Saturday.
Posted by: ShainS
I could draw the inside of my elementary school.
Useless trivia: Elementary school was K-8. By the time I hit 8th grade, myself & two other students were the only three allowed to go up on the roof to retrieve balls. (Baseball, softball, soccer and dodgeballs)
The late 70's were magical.
The very formative years ... I remember the civil defense sirens going off at noon every Saturday.
Posted by: ShainS
I could draw the inside of my elementary school.
Useless trivia: Elementary school was K-8. By the time I hit 8th grade, myself & two other students were the only three allowed to go up on the roof to retrieve balls. (Baseball, softball, soccer and dodgeballs)
The late 70's were magical.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (SDPbT)
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I’ve lived in cold snow climates for 2/3 of my life. Snow is just another Tuesday. Everyone owns a 4wd/awd vehicle and has snow tires. 3 inches of snow? Nobody even notices. 6 inches of snow, I’ll have to break out the snow blower I guess. A foot of snow, probably should take it easy on the roads.
And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣
And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
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Trudeau knows only one thing--grifting. He will NOT go willingly. His announcement today was merely to buy him more time to figure out where his next grifting opportunity lies.
Posted by: Crusader
The prog-bots on Twitter are hoping for UN Secy. As if Trump needed another excuse to ignore the UN.
Posted by: Crusader
The prog-bots on Twitter are hoping for UN Secy. As if Trump needed another excuse to ignore the UN.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (IG4Id)
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The weather pattern has been changing from El Nino ...
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That's Spanish for The Niño.
/obligatory Chris Farley
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That's Spanish for The Niño.
/obligatory Chris Farley
Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (UOejL)
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All, or at least most of the National Weather Service's forecasting tools (models) are available on their various sites. Someone with a fair amount of knowledge of statistical modeling, thermodynamics, fluid dynamics, etc. would likely have a field day picking them apart.
I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
Posted by: Archimedes
Garbage in = garbage out.
I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
Posted by: Archimedes
Garbage in = garbage out.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (SDPbT)
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153 I've seen comments on Hall videos, thanking him for saving someone's life, by telling them to take immediate shelter from a tornado. I amd so tired of "the sky is falling" weather forecasts. People will start ignoring them
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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His livestream catches a lot of action out in the country especially at night where a lot of TV coverage of weather events sucks other than a chryon of warning areas.
Radio is a shell of what it was nowadays but most people have smartphones or even smart tvs to see YT videos that he puts out.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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His livestream catches a lot of action out in the country especially at night where a lot of TV coverage of weather events sucks other than a chryon of warning areas.
Radio is a shell of what it was nowadays but most people have smartphones or even smart tvs to see YT videos that he puts out.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (ctrM5)
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NOAA also has oversight on our Atlantic and Pacific fisheries. What can, and can't be fished and how much can be taken.
They have an armed contingent as well.
They have an armed contingent as well.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (Q4IgG)
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Can't remember a password I created yesterday, but I can remember how an intersection was set up from 50 years ago.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
Try this:
P A S S W O R D
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
Try this:
P A S S W O R D
Posted by: Diogenes at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (W/lyH)
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@167/Crusader: "Trudeau knows only one thing--grifting. He will NOT go willingly. His announcement today was merely to buy him more time to figure out where his next grifting opportunity lies."
THIS. But... he's made such a fool of himself worldwide, and is so disrespected, that he may find that all the doors he thought he would be able to step through are now closed to him.
(Ohplease ohplease ohPLEASE let that be the case.)
THIS. But... he's made such a fool of himself worldwide, and is so disrespected, that he may find that all the doors he thought he would be able to step through are now closed to him.
(Ohplease ohplease ohPLEASE let that be the case.)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (O7YUW)
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I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
Joe Bastardi routinely beats their forecasts by simply looking up analogous situations in the past 80 years of weather records and seeing what happened next. It turns out the same atmospheric setup leads to the same results a huge percentage of the time.
Joe Bastardi routinely beats their forecasts by simply looking up analogous situations in the past 80 years of weather records and seeing what happened next. It turns out the same atmospheric setup leads to the same results a huge percentage of the time.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (2ocoG)
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DOGE NOAA
Posted by: torabora at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (PDl9A)
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Something like two thirds of the trucks the soviets used in WWII were American donations.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (lTGtQ)
I want to know what the commies did with the 4,773 P-39s we sent to them. That's 4,773. Jeez.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 06, 2025 11:35 AM (lTGtQ)
I want to know what the commies did with the 4,773 P-39s we sent to them. That's 4,773. Jeez.
Posted by: Lend-Lease at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (lX1hk)
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I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:40 AM (xCA6C)
The data themselves are corrupted. Even simple temperature data are skewed because of sensor locations. And they refuse to use satellite data!
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:40 AM (xCA6C)
The data themselves are corrupted. Even simple temperature data are skewed because of sensor locations. And they refuse to use satellite data!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (d9fT1)
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Along with having dino in your tank you have Wilma and Betty.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (63Dwl)
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It seems to be a trend for our local 3-day forecasts for them to say something like: "40% chance of precipitation, possibly heavy in some areas."
Turns out they are never wrong.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (991eG)
Don’t forget the weather apps that go from 20% chance of precipitation to 100% chance once it actually starts raining.
The older I get the more I just go straight for the radar map and make my own guesses. Usually no worse than the official guesses.
Turns out they are never wrong.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:23 AM (991eG)
Don’t forget the weather apps that go from 20% chance of precipitation to 100% chance once it actually starts raining.
The older I get the more I just go straight for the radar map and make my own guesses. Usually no worse than the official guesses.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (FC8SQ)
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Important addendum:
Petroleum and natural gas aren't actually "fossil fuels" at all. Only coal is.
They were called "fossil" fuels by the oil industry to brand them as scarce and precious a hundred years ago or so, but geologists have known since the 1800s that that was bunk. Not least because the vast deposits are well below the fossil layer.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (Epeb0)
Complete bunk. We keep finding new deposits because we are getting better at it. There is no such thing as a "fossil layer". Fossils exist in all ages of rock strata going back to the PreCambrian, but oil and gas aren't much found in rocks older than the Devonian.
Petroleum and natural gas aren't actually "fossil fuels" at all. Only coal is.
They were called "fossil" fuels by the oil industry to brand them as scarce and precious a hundred years ago or so, but geologists have known since the 1800s that that was bunk. Not least because the vast deposits are well below the fossil layer.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 11:21 AM (Epeb0)
Complete bunk. We keep finding new deposits because we are getting better at it. There is no such thing as a "fossil layer". Fossils exist in all ages of rock strata going back to the PreCambrian, but oil and gas aren't much found in rocks older than the Devonian.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2025 11:42 AM (8zz6B)
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DOJ Lawyer Who Demanded the FBI SWAT Raid on Mar-a-Lago Decides to Spend More Time Doing Something Else
In addition, Stanley Woodward, a lawyer representing Walt Nauta, a co-defendant in your classified documents case against President Trump, accused you of improperly pressuring him by implying that the Biden Administration would look more favorably on Mr. Woodward’s candidacy for a judgeship if his client cooperated with the Office of the Special Counsel.10 According to Mr. Woodward, you advised him that you “wouldn’t want [him] to do anything to mess that up,” in reference to Mr. Woodward’s judgeship application, and your desire to turn his client into a government cooperator.
In addition, Stanley Woodward, a lawyer representing Walt Nauta, a co-defendant in your classified documents case against President Trump, accused you of improperly pressuring him by implying that the Biden Administration would look more favorably on Mr. Woodward’s candidacy for a judgeship if his client cooperated with the Office of the Special Counsel.10 According to Mr. Woodward, you advised him that you “wouldn’t want [him] to do anything to mess that up,” in reference to Mr. Woodward’s judgeship application, and your desire to turn his client into a government cooperator.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (GITLP)
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CBC as sad about Justin as your MFM on Jan.8, 2016 and Nov.5, 20024.
https://tinyurl.com/y8dd8t89
screencaps not video
https://tinyurl.com/y8dd8t89
screencaps not video
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (iMpf5)
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134 > So...what time is the EC vote certification scheduled for?
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I don't think there will be one
according to the talking heads on the news this morning, it is constitutionally mandated to be today. speaker johnson, in his best authentic frontier gibberish, asked republican reps to stay in town over the weekend so they could have this vote regardless of the weather.
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I don't think there will be one
according to the talking heads on the news this morning, it is constitutionally mandated to be today. speaker johnson, in his best authentic frontier gibberish, asked republican reps to stay in town over the weekend so they could have this vote regardless of the weather.
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (v3pYe)
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NOAA also has oversight on our Atlantic and Pacific fisheries. What can, and can't be fished and how much can be taken.
Given the obvious danger of a "tragedy of the commons" scenario, I don't have a problem with someone acting to limit catches, PROVIDED they are apolitical.
Given the obvious danger of a "tragedy of the commons" scenario, I don't have a problem with someone acting to limit catches, PROVIDED they are apolitical.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (xCA6C)
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And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
In NYC’s defense, they can’t just push the snow onto the sidewalks, as there’s no where for the snow on the sidewalk to go. So you have to scoop it and put it in trucks and move it out of the city.
Pro-tip: don’t live in a big city. :-D
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
In NYC’s defense, they can’t just push the snow onto the sidewalks, as there’s no where for the snow on the sidewalk to go. So you have to scoop it and put it in trucks and move it out of the city.
Pro-tip: don’t live in a big city. :-D
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (FGFJD)
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When we shift from El Nino to La Nina patterns, the weather pattern typically moves to the east of the Continental Divide.
PNW/Intermountain West stays a bit more mild and gets less snowfall. The heavy winter weather shifts east and the South gets hit with Jan-Feb Winter Weather Temps. NE gets increased snows off the lakes.
It's kind of like...a pattern.
PNW/Intermountain West stays a bit more mild and gets less snowfall. The heavy winter weather shifts east and the South gets hit with Jan-Feb Winter Weather Temps. NE gets increased snows off the lakes.
It's kind of like...a pattern.
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (qu/pS)
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It's not called "warming" anymore.
It's called Climate Irregularities.
Stuff is happening--and it's our fault.
It's called Climate Irregularities.
Stuff is happening--and it's our fault.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (krQz2)
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#192 addendum:
Ezra Levant 🍁🚛 @ezralevant 36m
I just turned on the CBC. It's like I'm watching a funeral. Aaron Wherry is on now -- he looks like maybe he's been crying?
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Ha, ha! Losers!
Ezra Levant 🍁🚛 @ezralevant 36m
I just turned on the CBC. It's like I'm watching a funeral. Aaron Wherry is on now -- he looks like maybe he's been crying?
===
Ha, ha! Losers!
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (iMpf5)
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They were called "fossil" fuels by the oil industry to brand them as scarce and precious a hundred years ago or so, but geologists have known since the 1800s that that was bunk. Not least because the vast deposits are well below the fossil layer.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly
Also oil seeps up through volcanic seams and cracks on the ocean floor. It's been doing this since there were temperate oceans. I forget how much they estimate, but it's a shit ton of oil.
The earth's natural geophysical processes produce oil and gas, which is why we keep finding new, huge deposits.
Posted by: Beverly
Also oil seeps up through volcanic seams and cracks on the ocean floor. It's been doing this since there were temperate oceans. I forget how much they estimate, but it's a shit ton of oil.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (g8Ew8)
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I wonder if the drunk is ready for her day?
Posted by: fourseasons at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (3ek7K)
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@176/Its Go Time Donald: " And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣 "
https://tinyurl.com/4byzbpm9
https://tinyurl.com/4byzbpm9
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (O7YUW)
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What's the next big thing after debunking the 'dead dinosaurs are oil'?
AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
GOOD JOB WUHAN & Fauci...
AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
GOOD JOB WUHAN & Fauci...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (XjTSo)
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On December 6, 2024, Senator Tom Cotton (Republican of Arkansas) introduced a bill in the Senate to replace “West Bank” in all federal documents with “Judea and Samaria,” noting, “The Jewish people’s legal and historic rights to Judea and Samaria go back thousands of years. The US should stop using the politically charged term West Bank to refer to the biblical heartland of Israel.”
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (GITLP)
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (TN0g+)
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Justin Welby officially resigned at midnight Monday, ending his tenure as the archbishop of Canterbury.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (GITLP)
Probably off to Gaza to fight with Hamas.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM (GITLP)
Probably off to Gaza to fight with Hamas.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 06, 2025 11:44 AM (d9fT1)
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Joe Bastardi routinely beats their forecasts by simply looking up analogous situations in the past 80 years of weather records and seeing what happened next. It turns out the same atmospheric setup leads to the same results a huge percentage of the time.
Something...something...definition of insanity.
Something...something...definition of insanity.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:45 AM (xCA6C)
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So...what time is the EC vote certification scheduled for?
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I don't think there will be one
according to the talking heads on the news this morning, it is constitutionally mandated to be today.
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (v3pYe)
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"Pfffft!!!" - Nancy and the Democrats.
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I don't think there will be one
according to the talking heads on the news this morning, it is constitutionally mandated to be today.
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (v3pYe)
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"Pfffft!!!" - Nancy and the Democrats.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:45 AM (krQz2)
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191 DOJ Lawyer Who Demanded the FBI SWAT Raid on Mar-a-Lago Decides to Spend More Time Doing Something Else
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (GITLP)
This reads like a Babylon Bee headline.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (GITLP)
This reads like a Babylon Bee headline.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:45 AM (FGFJD)
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FBl agents eager for new leadership after New Orleans terror attack; decorum, procedures breached [ Embarrassed by the DEI hire ]
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM
Those die hires are going to be like ticks on a dogs back to get rid of. There are so many of them that got hired in the last four years that Trump and patel are not going to be able to fire them all, the MSPB will see to that.
Probably the best that they are going to be able to do is give them $hit desk jobs and take them out of the COC and hope they quit.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM
Those die hires are going to be like ticks on a dogs back to get rid of. There are so many of them that got hired in the last four years that Trump and patel are not going to be able to fire them all, the MSPB will see to that.
Probably the best that they are going to be able to do is give them $hit desk jobs and take them out of the COC and hope they quit.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 06, 2025 11:45 AM (Rcnd3)
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Amen.
Posted by: PETE at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (0Ctrb)
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I always thought the "heart" of winter was the end of January and all of February.
Posted by: ripley 7542 at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (Uy/WF)
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What's the next big thing after debunking the 'dead dinosaurs are oil'?
AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
Forgive me, but I'm not quite ready to believe "AI analysis" can eliminate 600M people.
AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
Forgive me, but I'm not quite ready to believe "AI analysis" can eliminate 600M people.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
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>Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (v3pYe)
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well it's coming on noon in DC and we haven't heard squat yet
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well it's coming on noon in DC and we haven't heard squat yet
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (/7KEl)
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A few years back NOAA switched to an animated weather map that absolutely sucks. Their old map was great, responded in a snappy manner to everything.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (BLpaA)
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Temperature monitoring stations are located in parking lots and next to factories or data centers for reasons....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (kTZg/)
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (77rzZ)
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When we shift from El Nino to La Nina patterns, the weather pattern typically moves to the east of the Continental Divide.
PNW/Intermountain West stays a bit more mild and gets less snowfall. The heavy winter weather shifts east and the South gets hit with Jan-Feb Winter Weather Temps. NE gets increased snows off the lakes.
It's kind of like...a pattern.
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (qu/pS)
It shuts off our rain in CA, we have zero this winter so far
PNW/Intermountain West stays a bit more mild and gets less snowfall. The heavy winter weather shifts east and the South gets hit with Jan-Feb Winter Weather Temps. NE gets increased snows off the lakes.
It's kind of like...a pattern.
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 11:43 AM (qu/pS)
It shuts off our rain in CA, we have zero this winter so far
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (S+j2h)
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:It started out at 62 degrees this morning and it's now 44. Clearly, something is happening.
Posted by: fd"
I think that is the polar vortex getting stated If you are outside when it happens you will turn into a huge block of ice when it happens and probably shatter. That's is science. I saw it in a movie.
Posted by: fd"
I think that is the polar vortex getting stated If you are outside when it happens you will turn into a huge block of ice when it happens and probably shatter. That's is science. I saw it in a movie.
Posted by: Ripley at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (GUOwU)
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211 I always thought the "heart" of winter was the end of January and all of February.
Posted by: ripley 7542 at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (Uy/WF)
Not scientific, but it’s always felt that way to me. One of the main reasons why I’d like to see Christmas moved to end of January/beginning of February. Something to look forward to in the most depressing months.
Posted by: ripley 7542 at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (Uy/WF)
Not scientific, but it’s always felt that way to me. One of the main reasons why I’d like to see Christmas moved to end of January/beginning of February. Something to look forward to in the most depressing months.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (FGFJD)
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AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
Forgive me, but I'm not quite ready to believe "AI analysis" can eliminate 600M people.
Posted by: Archimedes
AI can't. But Fauci & the communist leaders can.
Forgive me, but I'm not quite ready to believe "AI analysis" can eliminate 600M people.
Posted by: Archimedes
AI can't. But Fauci & the communist leaders can.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (SDPbT)
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Ezra Levant 🍁🚛 @ezralevant 36m
I just turned on the CBC. It's like I'm watching a funeral. Aaron Wherry is on now -- he looks like maybe he's been crying?
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Ha, ha! Losers!
Posted by: andycanuck
Eh? They're hosers, that's what they are.
I mean, TAKE OFF!
I just turned on the CBC. It's like I'm watching a funeral. Aaron Wherry is on now -- he looks like maybe he's been crying?
===
Ha, ha! Losers!
Posted by: andycanuck
Eh? They're hosers, that's what they are.
I mean, TAKE OFF!
Posted by: Doug McKenzie at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (vcOmj)
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Forgive me, but I'm not quite ready to believe "AI analysis" can eliminate 600M people.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Posted by: Skynet at January 06, 2025 11:49 AM (PiwSw)
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179 I think their forecasting tools are probably state of the art, but that is not the same thing as accurate. Furthermore, when your entire climate model relies on "forcing", aka making it up, you don't expect accuracy.
Posted by: Archimedes
Garbage in = garbage out.
state of the art garbage is best garbage
Posted by: Archimedes
Garbage in = garbage out.
state of the art garbage is best garbage
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:49 AM (v3pYe)
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t shuts off our rain in CA, we have zero this winter so far
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (S+j2h)
I am talking about SoCal, the north part of the state has been getting it good
I should have been more clear
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (S+j2h)
I am talking about SoCal, the north part of the state has been getting it good
I should have been more clear
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 06, 2025 11:49 AM (S+j2h)
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I always thought the "heart" of winter was the end of January and all of February.
Posted by: ripley 7542
With a swift kick in the ass around the end of the first week in March.
Posted by: ripley 7542
With a swift kick in the ass around the end of the first week in March.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:49 AM (SDPbT)
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I think that is the polar vortex getting stated If you are outside when it happens you will turn into a huge block of ice when it happens and probably shatter. That's is science. I saw it in a movie.
Did your gasoline freeze in the fuel lines?
Did your gasoline freeze in the fuel lines?
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (/7KEl)
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AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
GOOD JOB WUHAN & Fauci...
Posted by: CPT. Charles
India has overtaken China as the world's most populous country.
GOOD JOB WUHAN & Fauci...
Posted by: CPT. Charles
India has overtaken China as the world's most populous country.
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (77rzZ)
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@192/andycanuck: "CBC as sad about Justin as your MFM on Jan.8, 2016 and Nov.5, 20024.
20024?
Reminds me of this then-Twitter (now X) post from Trump himself, the Trump 4EVA meme:
https://tinyurl.com/9yb7887y
20024?
Reminds me of this then-Twitter (now X) post from Trump himself, the Trump 4EVA meme:
https://tinyurl.com/9yb7887y
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (O7YUW)
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It was 21° in Fort Worth this morning with the wind chill listed as 8°. 3-5" of snow are forecast for Thursday 😲😲😲
This delicate little flower isn't used to such frigid temps! And Texas cold is MEAN - there is nothing between us and the North Pole but barbed wire fences 😊❤️🥶🥶🥶
This delicate little flower isn't used to such frigid temps! And Texas cold is MEAN - there is nothing between us and the North Pole but barbed wire fences 😊❤️🥶🥶🥶
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (fV+di)
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Complete bunk. We keep finding new deposits because we are getting better at it. There is no such thing as a "fossil layer". Fossils exist in all ages of rock strata going back to the PreCambrian, but oil and gas aren't much found in rocks older than the Devonian.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I take it that you don't agree with Thomas Gold and his abiotic theory.
He was the reason that the lunar landers had massive landing pads on the legs. Gold posited that the lunar surface where it was not rocky had meters deep layers of dust. That would make landing perilous so NASA (despite evidence from Surveyor landings to the contrary) put massive landing pads on the LEM sufficient to land on massive loose dust surfaces. CYA at its finest.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I take it that you don't agree with Thomas Gold and his abiotic theory.
He was the reason that the lunar landers had massive landing pads on the legs. Gold posited that the lunar surface where it was not rocky had meters deep layers of dust. That would make landing perilous so NASA (despite evidence from Surveyor landings to the contrary) put massive landing pads on the LEM sufficient to land on massive loose dust surfaces. CYA at its finest.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (ctrM5)
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Perhaps NOAA is taking a longer view of things. Their 40-day forecast narrative follows a predictable arc.
...wait for it.
...wait for it.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (991eG)
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Forgive me, but I'm not quite ready to believe "AI analysis" can eliminate 600M people.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Posted by: Skynet at January 06, 2025 11:49 AM (PiwSw)
You will all become Coppertops for city 01.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
Super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Posted by: Skynet at January 06, 2025 11:49 AM (PiwSw)
You will all become Coppertops for city 01.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (VNX3d)
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209 FBl agents eager for new leadership after New Orleans terror attack; decorum, procedures breached [ Embarrassed by the DEI hire ]
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM
Those die hires are going to be like ticks on a dogs back to get rid of.
slather them in butter and wait for them to slide themselves out?
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 11:38 AM
Those die hires are going to be like ticks on a dogs back to get rid of.
slather them in butter and wait for them to slide themselves out?
Posted by: anachronda at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (v3pYe)
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A few years back NOAA switched to an animated weather map that absolutely sucks. Their old map was great, responded in a snappy manner to everything.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (BLpaA)
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Why you keep tryin' to read that word?
Posted by: banana Dream at January 06, 2025 11:48 AM (BLpaA)
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Why you keep tryin' to read that word?
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (krQz2)
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Having lived in the South for many years, I thought the weather forecast most of the year should be "it's hot and shitty again."
Having lived in the South for many years, I thought the weather forecast most of the year should be "it's hot and shitty again."
Posted by: fourseasons at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (3ek7K)
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I always thought the "heart" of winter was the end of January and all of February.
Posted by: ripley 7542 at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (Uy/WF)
The last two weeks of January into the first two weeks of February are usually the coldest here in OK. Snow is unpredictable but the biggest snowstorms I've seen here are usually in February.
Posted by: ripley 7542 at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM (Uy/WF)
The last two weeks of January into the first two weeks of February are usually the coldest here in OK. Snow is unpredictable but the biggest snowstorms I've seen here are usually in February.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew8)
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>>It shuts off our rain in CA, we have zero this winter so far
High Pressure usually dominates the SW in these seasons...
though, February-March in Flagstaff (and Utah) can see some of the best skiing in the country in these years.
High Pressure usually dominates the SW in these seasons...
though, February-March in Flagstaff (and Utah) can see some of the best skiing in the country in these years.
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (qu/pS)
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So... all this Climate Crisis™ talk and possible snow flurries in the capitol city means the election certification can't be held today?
Too.... dangerous. For democracy. Or something.
Too.... dangerous. For democracy. Or something.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (Q4IgG)
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On the way back from shopping radio said, we're (energy cos) not going to have power to keep warm tonight because we don't have enough coal and natgas plants to satisfy the need. Asshoes, they're the one's that shut them down.
More and more I'm a subscriber to the ignoramus solution.
More and more I'm a subscriber to the ignoramus solution.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (PY/t0)
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Justin Welby officially resigned at midnight Monday, ending his tenure as the archbishop of Canterbury.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025
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Grandson of Dr. Marcus Welby?
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025
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Grandson of Dr. Marcus Welby?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (J2vNu)
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Hey Teresa! How are you doing? 🙏🏻
Posted by: lin-duh at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (llS7k)
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I t can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (0Sv+K)
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Thanks for blowing the margins Don!
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (GoY7t)
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176 I’ve lived in cold snow climates for 2/3 of my life. Snow is just another Tuesday. Everyone owns a 4wd/awd vehicle and has snow tires. 3 inches of snow? Nobody even notices. 6 inches of snow, I’ll have to break out the snow blower I guess. A foot of snow, probably should take it easy on the roads.
And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
A-fuquing-men ...
Grow a pair !
Hell most of the complaining people are transplanted Northerners.
And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
A-fuquing-men ...
Grow a pair !
Hell most of the complaining people are transplanted Northerners.
Posted by: browndog zooming in the snow at January 06, 2025 11:52 AM (TTAGa)
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China's population might indeed be overstated. This Univ of Wisconsin demographer thinks it might be around 40 million smaller than official estimates...
https://tinyurl.com/2bdrhvdd
https://tinyurl.com/2bdrhvdd
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (kTZg/)
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"And Texas cold is MEAN - there is nothing between us and the North Pole but barbed wire fences"
....and they're blown down.
....and they're blown down.
Posted by: BignJames at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (Yj6Os)
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Justin Welby officially resigned at midnight Monday, ending his tenure as the archbishop of Canterbury.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025
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We wish him well as he prepares for his new life of hookers and blow.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025
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We wish him well as he prepares for his new life of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (krQz2)
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SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-71
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
SPACE AFFAIRS
Launch Date: January 6, 2025
New T-Zero: 1:59 p.m. ET, 1859 UTC, 19:59 CET in a launch window which is open until 3:43 p.m. ET.
https://www.youtube.com/live/B-caeRktmlI
SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS - Space Affairs Live
SPACE AFFAIRS
Launch Date: January 6, 2025
New T-Zero: 1:59 p.m. ET, 1859 UTC, 19:59 CET in a launch window which is open until 3:43 p.m. ET.
https://www.youtube.com/live/B-caeRktmlI
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, abbiamo un lancio piu tardi at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (i0xsb)
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NYC’s defense, they can’t just push the snow onto the sidewalks, as there’s no where for the snow on the sidewalk to go. So you have to scoop it and put it in trucks and move it out of the city.
Pro-tip: don’t live in a big city. :-D
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
Weirdly enough other big cities like Chicago or Detroit or Minneapolis figured this out already.
Pro-tip: don’t live in a big city. :-D
Posted by: DoublySymmetric
Weirdly enough other big cities like Chicago or Detroit or Minneapolis figured this out already.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:54 AM (5y+cL)
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They also said Kamala would win 3 months ago.
Posted by: Roy at January 06, 2025 11:54 AM (z+ik4)
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The BBC babe in the sidebar trying to smear Trump and getting windsplained by the weather is a pleasure to watch.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 06, 2025 11:54 AM (kTZg/)
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Archimedes at January 06, 2025 11:46 AM
I'll just throw this out for discussion...
https://tinyurl.com/28zfml4k
I'll just throw this out for discussion...
https://tinyurl.com/28zfml4k
Posted by: CPT. Charles at January 06, 2025 11:54 AM (XjTSo)
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>>>You'll see that no humans are really forecasting anything.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops
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Big Joe Bastardi @ weatherbell.com
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops
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Big Joe Bastardi @ weatherbell.com
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (PY/t0)
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China's population might indeed be overstated. This Univ of Wisconsin demographer thinks it might be around 40 million smaller than official estimates...
https://tinyurl.com/2bdrhvdd
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (kTZg/)
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This is not the first time I've seen "clues" that China lost a lot more people during Covid than they reported.
They said that about cell-phone data in late 2020-to-2021.
https://tinyurl.com/2bdrhvdd
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (kTZg/)
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This is not the first time I've seen "clues" that China lost a lot more people during Covid than they reported.
They said that about cell-phone data in late 2020-to-2021.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (krQz2)
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Right on, Buck.
"Climate" nonsense and "environmental" lysenkoism are the biggest threat to freedom and prosperity today. Edging out the raging fever of racist-totalitarian social engineering and a few other things.
Tepid optimism that this will be effectively addressed, unfortunately.
"Climate" nonsense and "environmental" lysenkoism are the biggest threat to freedom and prosperity today. Edging out the raging fever of racist-totalitarian social engineering and a few other things.
Tepid optimism that this will be effectively addressed, unfortunately.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (1m82a)
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>> China's population might indeed be overstated. This Univ of Wisconsin demographer thinks it might be around 40 million smaller than official estimates...
Well, they did some major culling of their dissidents during 'Covid' Lockdowns.
Well, they did some major culling of their dissidents during 'Covid' Lockdowns.
Posted by: garrett at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (qu/pS)
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Maybe 20,000 Chinese missing are here
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (0Sv+K)
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>hanks for blowing the margins Don!
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent
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did I do that?
seriously, it translated as a short url on my screen
management regrets the inconvenience
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent
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did I do that?
seriously, it translated as a short url on my screen
management regrets the inconvenience
Posted by: Don Black at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (/7KEl)
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Grow a pair !
Hell most of the complaining people are transplanted Northerners.
Posted by: browndog zooming in the snow at January 06, 2025
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The colorful natives here bitterly resent being unable to dress like Bart Simpson twelve months a year, have no cold weather clothing, and think pouring hot water on your car windshield will melt off the early morning ice. Uh, Chief, that's not all it'll do. . . .
Hell most of the complaining people are transplanted Northerners.
Posted by: browndog zooming in the snow at January 06, 2025
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The colorful natives here bitterly resent being unable to dress like Bart Simpson twelve months a year, have no cold weather clothing, and think pouring hot water on your car windshield will melt off the early morning ice. Uh, Chief, that's not all it'll do. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (J2vNu)
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And then I see 24/7 breaking news alerts in NYC that 3 inches of snow is on the way acting like it’s the apocalypse. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
A-fuquing-men ...
Grow a pair !
Hell most of the complaining people are transplanted Northerners.
Posted by: browndog
One of the few times I agreed with Obama was when he pointed out what sissies (not his word) DC residents are when it comes to winter.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:41 AM (5y+cL)
A-fuquing-men ...
Grow a pair !
Hell most of the complaining people are transplanted Northerners.
Posted by: browndog
One of the few times I agreed with Obama was when he pointed out what sissies (not his word) DC residents are when it comes to winter.
Posted by: Bulg at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (77rzZ)
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234 209 "I will not resign! I am an F Bee Fuckin Eye supervisor and I ain't berthing no babies either!"
FBI SSA L'Quisha Bromide, NOLA Field Office
FBI SSA L'Quisha Bromide, NOLA Field Office
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (gm9Sb)
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I take excepttion to the prevaleent usage of:
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
No. If it's 20 degrees, then that is what 20 degrees feels like!
Aaaargh!
*Pounds tiny fists impotently against the wall.*
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
No. If it's 20 degrees, then that is what 20 degrees feels like!
Aaaargh!
*Pounds tiny fists impotently against the wall.*
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (991eG)
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Justin Welby officially resigned at midnight Monday, ending his tenure as the archbishop of Canterbury.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025
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We wish him well as he prepares for his new life of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (krQz2)
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BREAKING: Hunter Biden Appointed Archbishop of Canterbury; Gives Up Painting Shit. Developing ...
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025
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We wish him well as he prepares for his new life of hookers and blow.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 11:53 AM (krQz2)
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BREAKING: Hunter Biden Appointed Archbishop of Canterbury; Gives Up Painting Shit. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (XxsuW)
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182 Can't remember a password I created yesterday, but I can remember how an intersection was set up from 50 years ago.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
12345.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 11:31 AM (SDPbT)
12345.
Posted by: John Podesta at January 06, 2025 11:55 AM (PiwSw)
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228 AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
GOOD JOB WUHAN & Fauci...
Posted by: CPT. Charles
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During the heyday of the Soviet Union, Robert Heinlein (can't remember if it was before or after his trip there), felt that the population estimates of the USSR were grossly enlarged. I think he talked to someone in the our natsec community that had access to spy photos, etc. and the guy confirmed Heinlein surmise based on the necessary logistics facilities needed to sustain urban and suburban populations.
We have better sat info now with Google Earth than the military had in the 60's which is when Heinlein's anecdote was set. So probably a relatively easy task for AI to look for similar factors necessary to sustain populations and apply that to satellite imagery plus some other relevant logistics data.
GOOD JOB WUHAN & Fauci...
Posted by: CPT. Charles
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During the heyday of the Soviet Union, Robert Heinlein (can't remember if it was before or after his trip there), felt that the population estimates of the USSR were grossly enlarged. I think he talked to someone in the our natsec community that had access to spy photos, etc. and the guy confirmed Heinlein surmise based on the necessary logistics facilities needed to sustain urban and suburban populations.
We have better sat info now with Google Earth than the military had in the 60's which is when Heinlein's anecdote was set. So probably a relatively easy task for AI to look for similar factors necessary to sustain populations and apply that to satellite imagery plus some other relevant logistics data.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:56 AM (ctrM5)
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Just had a neighbor install a Tesla Powerwall without solar panels. It cost more to install the for the unit. For a house as big as his, he should have gotten at least 2... we'll see if he gets to use it this winter.
Posted by: lin-duh at January 06, 2025 11:56 AM (llS7k)
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From the last thread: Betty, Wilma… or Samantha?
https://youtu.be/NVp6Nb-lXrI
Sadly, they seem to have got the rights to Dick York’s likeness, but not Elizabeth Montgomery’s.
https://youtu.be/NVp6Nb-lXrI
Sadly, they seem to have got the rights to Dick York’s likeness, but not Elizabeth Montgomery’s.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at January 06, 2025 11:56 AM (EXyHK)
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I traveled all the way to our DC area sales office this morning and...I'm the only one here. In the whole office complex, I think. I think if I can travel two hundred miles this morning my colleagues can drive ten, but apparently not.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 06, 2025 11:57 AM (kTZg/)
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7 ...The idea that Velma is a sex goddess hiding under all that baggy clothing is a fair one, but she might also be a man hating feminist dyke.
Daphne is certainly cute and sporty.
Damn...toss-up.
Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (bVDBR)
Just a cotton-pickin' minute!
The dykes don't get to claim Velma as one of their own - she was a role model for all of us ugly duckling smart girls. And FWIW, we were ALWAYS sex goddesses under all of the baggy clothing, as any gentleman brave enough to ask us out discovered, to his great delight (saved all of mine for the lucky Mr. TiFW 😘😘😘
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Daphne is certainly cute and sporty.
Damn...toss-up.
Posted by: Robert at January 06, 2025 11:01 AM (bVDBR)
Just a cotton-pickin' minute!
The dykes don't get to claim Velma as one of their own - she was a role model for all of us ugly duckling smart girls. And FWIW, we were ALWAYS sex goddesses under all of the baggy clothing, as any gentleman brave enough to ask us out discovered, to his great delight (saved all of mine for the lucky Mr. TiFW 😘😘😘
.Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at January 06, 2025 11:57 AM (fV+di)
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Justin Welby officially resigned at midnight Monday, ending his tenure as the archbishop of Canterbury.
the next AoC will be a lesbian, even odds at being an immigrant
the next AoC will be a lesbian, even odds at being an immigrant
Posted by: brak at January 06, 2025 11:58 AM (jGJov)
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Can the prodigal son Brave Sir Justine Castreau return to and rule Cuba?
Posted by: ShainS -- Eliminate vast bureaucracies of civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil at January 06, 2025 11:58 AM (XxsuW)
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Seeing on YouTube from Fox Castro has resigned
Posted by: Skip at January 06, 2025 11:59 AM (0Sv+K)
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I read a detailed analysis of why people are questioning whether China may be roughly doubling the reporting of their real population. It included math...sorry about that...and posited that the "one kid" policy combined with lower fertility rates and the number of completely *vacant* multi-family complexes all added up to it being very likely China was much smaller in terms of current population than what is widely reported.
Posted by: Crusader at January 06, 2025 11:59 AM (TN0g+)
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Having lived in the South for many years, I thought the weather forecast most of the year should be "it's hot and shitty again."
Posted by: fourseasons
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Eh, cold is actually more dangerous than heat. With a minimum of precautions people can survive heat pretty well. Not pleasant but survivable.
Cold, on the other hand, with no heating sources can kill at temps above freezing.
People can be pretty adaptable if they chose to be.
Having lived in the South for many years, I thought the weather forecast most of the year should be "it's hot and shitty again."
Posted by: fourseasons
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Eh, cold is actually more dangerous than heat. With a minimum of precautions people can survive heat pretty well. Not pleasant but survivable.
Cold, on the other hand, with no heating sources can kill at temps above freezing.
People can be pretty adaptable if they chose to be.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:59 AM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 06, 2025 12:00 PM (L/fGl)
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272 Trudeau could figure out a way to fuck up Cuba more than it is now. "Cuba now imports sugar. Lets increase the saccharin crop".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 06, 2025 12:00 PM (gm9Sb)
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>>On the way back from shopping radio said, we're (energy cos) not going to have power to keep warm tonight because we don't have enough coal and natgas plants to satisfy the need. Asshoes, they're the one's that shut them down.
If we’re going to have climate rolling blackouts, the first houses to lose electricity need to be those of politicians, energy company execs, NOAA employees, billionaires, and environmentalists.
If we’re going to have climate rolling blackouts, the first houses to lose electricity need to be those of politicians, energy company execs, NOAA employees, billionaires, and environmentalists.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 06, 2025 12:01 PM (FC8SQ)
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Nood
Posted by: Thanatopsis at January 06, 2025 12:01 PM (GYt5+)
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During the heyday of the Soviet Union, Robert Heinlein (can't remember if it was before or after his trip there), felt that the population estimates of the USSR were grossly enlarged. I think he talked to someone in the our natsec community that had access to spy photos, etc. and the guy confirmed Heinlein surmise based on the necessary logistics facilities needed to sustain urban and suburban populations.
We have better sat info now with Google Earth than the military had in the 60's which is when Heinlein's anecdote was set. . . .
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025
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Heinlein tells the story in his 1980 collection of essays and stories, Expanded Universe. He and Ginny, his wife, toured the Soviet Union in the (late, I think) '70s. Ginny had taught herself Russian, so they were not limited to what their Intourist guide told them. She and Robert independently concluded that Moscow alone was smaller than the Russians said, and that the Soviets were not even replacing themselves. Later, he said, they confirmed it with an intelligence-linked source.
We have better sat info now with Google Earth than the military had in the 60's which is when Heinlein's anecdote was set. . . .
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025
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Heinlein tells the story in his 1980 collection of essays and stories, Expanded Universe. He and Ginny, his wife, toured the Soviet Union in the (late, I think) '70s. Ginny had taught herself Russian, so they were not limited to what their Intourist guide told them. She and Robert independently concluded that Moscow alone was smaller than the Russians said, and that the Soviets were not even replacing themselves. Later, he said, they confirmed it with an intelligence-linked source.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 06, 2025 12:01 PM (J2vNu)
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263 I take excepttion to the prevaleent usage of:
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
No. If it's 20 degrees, then that is what 20 degrees feels like!
Aaaargh!
*Pounds tiny fists impotently against the wall.*
Posted by: muldoon
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Military started that when they were trying to make a technical determination on maintenance and operation of machinery in extreme temperatures. Long ago they dropped the notion of wind chill. The factoring doesn't work.
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
No. If it's 20 degrees, then that is what 20 degrees feels like!
Aaaargh!
*Pounds tiny fists impotently against the wall.*
Posted by: muldoon
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Military started that when they were trying to make a technical determination on maintenance and operation of machinery in extreme temperatures. Long ago they dropped the notion of wind chill. The factoring doesn't work.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 06, 2025 12:01 PM (PY/t0)
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Weirdly enough other big cities like Chicago or Detroit or Minneapolis figured this out already.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:54 AM (5y+cL)
NYC - 8.8 million (29K per sq mile)
Chicago - 2.7 million (12K per sq mile)
Minneapolis/St Paul - 850K (8K per sq mile)
NYC is a class of its own when talking about “big” city.
* all numbersbased on the 2020 census. Of note, the 2023 estimate has NYC down to 8.3 million. Still over 27K per square mile.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 06, 2025 11:54 AM (5y+cL)
NYC - 8.8 million (29K per sq mile)
Chicago - 2.7 million (12K per sq mile)
Minneapolis/St Paul - 850K (8K per sq mile)
NYC is a class of its own when talking about “big” city.
* all numbersbased on the 2020 census. Of note, the 2023 estimate has NYC down to 8.3 million. Still over 27K per square mile.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 12:01 PM (FGFJD)
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nood canada
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at January 06, 2025 12:01 PM (iMpf5)
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I take it that you don't agree with Thomas Gold and his abiotic theory.
He was the reason that the lunar landers had massive landing pads on the legs. Gold posited that the lunar surface where it was not rocky had meters deep layers of dust. That would make landing perilous so NASA (despite evidence from Surveyor landings to the contrary) put massive landing pads on the LEM sufficient to land on massive loose dust surfaces. CYA at its finest.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (ctrM5)
IIRC, every well ever drilled to test the "abiotic oil" theory has been a dry hole.
He was the reason that the lunar landers had massive landing pads on the legs. Gold posited that the lunar surface where it was not rocky had meters deep layers of dust. That would make landing perilous so NASA (despite evidence from Surveyor landings to the contrary) put massive landing pads on the LEM sufficient to land on massive loose dust surfaces. CYA at its finest.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 11:51 AM (ctrM5)
IIRC, every well ever drilled to test the "abiotic oil" theory has been a dry hole.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 06, 2025 12:02 PM (8zz6B)
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@270/Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas:
Preach it! Married me the mousy librarian type with glasses, at least that's what she presented at the time to the public at large.
Cue up Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" because, daaaayum.
Preach it! Married me the mousy librarian type with glasses, at least that's what she presented at the time to the public at large.
Cue up Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" because, daaaayum.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 06, 2025 12:03 PM (O7YUW)
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Then-Speaker Pelosi violated House rules when she banned minority representation on her Select Committee to investigate Jan. 6. The unprecedented move to bar Republican lawmakers from the committee meant Cheney had misled witnesses and federal agencies about the panel’s legitimate bipartisanship. Because House rules dictate that ranking committee members must be appointed by the minority party, Cheney, who was appointed by the Democrat speaker at the time, served as the panel’s vice chair.
Posted by: SMOD at January 06, 2025 12:03 PM (GITLP)
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And Texas cold is MEAN - there is nothing between us and the North Pole but barbed wire fences
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
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Well, barbed wire fences and 10 or 12 cold-weather states. And Canada.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
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Well, barbed wire fences and 10 or 12 cold-weather states. And Canada.
Posted by: muldoon at January 06, 2025 12:03 PM (991eG)
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I take excepttion to the prevaleent usage of:
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
No. If it's 20 degrees, then that is what 20 degrees feels like!
Aaaargh!
*Pounds tiny fists impotently against the wall.*
Posted by: muldoon
20 degrees in a vlosed up garage is bearable.
20 degrees in a 30 mph wind is something else. And the only ones that say it's the same have never experienced it.
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
No. If it's 20 degrees, then that is what 20 degrees feels like!
Aaaargh!
*Pounds tiny fists impotently against the wall.*
Posted by: muldoon
20 degrees in a vlosed up garage is bearable.
20 degrees in a 30 mph wind is something else. And the only ones that say it's the same have never experienced it.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 12:04 PM (SDPbT)
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the next AoC will be a lesbian, even odds at being an immigrant
Posted by: brak at January 06, 2025 11:58 AM (jGJov)
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AOC might be a not-as-dumb-as-she-pretends spook.
Mike Benz said that USAID is a known CIA front, and she was sent to Nigeria by USAID, she left two weeks before a coup in Nigeria.
the next AoC will be a lesbian, even odds at being an immigrant
Posted by: brak at January 06, 2025 11:58 AM (jGJov)
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AOC might be a not-as-dumb-as-she-pretends spook.
Mike Benz said that USAID is a known CIA front, and she was sent to Nigeria by USAID, she left two weeks before a coup in Nigeria.
Posted by: Axeman at January 06, 2025 12:05 PM (krQz2)
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>>>Cold, on the other hand, with no heating sources can kill at temps above freezing.
People can be pretty adaptable if they chose to be.
Posted by: whig
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On the other hand, one may always put on more clothes whereas after one is stripped naked that's it.
People can be pretty adaptable if they chose to be.
Posted by: whig
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On the other hand, one may always put on more clothes whereas after one is stripped naked that's it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 06, 2025 12:06 PM (PY/t0)
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And Texas cold is MEAN - there is nothing between us and the North Pole but barbed wire fences
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
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Well, barbed wire fences and 10 or 12 cold-weather states. And Canada.
Posted by: muldoon
And they're all flat. Instead of calling it a "polar Vortex", they need to call it the "Polar Express".
Because it doesn't stop until it passes Galveston.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth
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Well, barbed wire fences and 10 or 12 cold-weather states. And Canada.
Posted by: muldoon
And they're all flat. Instead of calling it a "polar Vortex", they need to call it the "Polar Express".
Because it doesn't stop until it passes Galveston.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 06, 2025 12:06 PM (SDPbT)
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AOC might be a not-as-dumb-as-she-pretends spook.
Mike Benz said that USAID is a known CIA front, and she was sent to Nigeria by USAID, she left two weeks before a coup in Nigeria.
Posted by: Axeman
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That revelation was a shocker. The whole bartenderess story was kabuki.
AOC might be a not-as-dumb-as-she-pretends spook.
Mike Benz said that USAID is a known CIA front, and she was sent to Nigeria by USAID, she left two weeks before a coup in Nigeria.
Posted by: Axeman
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That revelation was a shocker. The whole bartenderess story was kabuki.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 06, 2025 12:07 PM (PY/t0)
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This delicate little flower isn't used to such frigid temps! And Texas cold is MEAN - there is nothing between us and the North Pole but barbed wire fences 😊❤️🥶🥶🥶
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (fV+di)
Yes, our new mid-south neighbors don't understand that it is ten degrees WARMER in our Colorado Rocky Mountain foothills former neighborhood.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at January 06, 2025 11:50 AM (fV+di)
Yes, our new mid-south neighbors don't understand that it is ten degrees WARMER in our Colorado Rocky Mountain foothills former neighborhood.
Posted by: Emmie at January 06, 2025 12:07 PM (Sf2cq)
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Mike Benz said that USAID is a known CIA front, and she was sent to Nigeria by USAID, she left two weeks before a coup in Nigeria.
Also that USAID has nothing to do with foreign aid, it's purely a CIA operation.
Also that USAID has nothing to do with foreign aid, it's purely a CIA operation.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 12:08 PM (2ocoG)
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AI analysis shows that China no longer has 1.4 billion people...the real number is much lower...like somewhere north of 800 million.
That's going to cost them Representatives in Congress.
That's going to cost them Representatives in Congress.
Posted by: Noted Genius-Brain from the USVI at January 06, 2025 12:09 PM (CFrOc)
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267 Just had a neighbor install a Tesla Powerwall without solar panels. It cost more to install the for the unit. For a house as big as his, he should have gotten at least 2... we'll see if he gets to use it this winter.
Posted by: lin-duh
I am contemplating solar as an auxiliary power source as I need to build a carport anyway. Putting solar cells as the roof on it gives about 6kw for a single car and about 10-12 kw for a double one with current efficiency panels and using microinverter technology means that you can gain enough efficiency to run an average house load during the day where I live for most of the year via grid tying plus run most of your house during the day if the power goes off ( a trick that microinverters can do versus most regular inverters as well is make solar installs less fire prone, easier, and less dangerous.)
Microinverters convert DC to Ac at the source rather than after all the solar cells are tied together and that also makes the assembly less sensitive in output to shade over part of the bank of solar cells.
Large battery banks right now make the project unappealing as I already have alternative heat and generating capacity.
Posted by: lin-duh
I am contemplating solar as an auxiliary power source as I need to build a carport anyway. Putting solar cells as the roof on it gives about 6kw for a single car and about 10-12 kw for a double one with current efficiency panels and using microinverter technology means that you can gain enough efficiency to run an average house load during the day where I live for most of the year via grid tying plus run most of your house during the day if the power goes off ( a trick that microinverters can do versus most regular inverters as well is make solar installs less fire prone, easier, and less dangerous.)
Microinverters convert DC to Ac at the source rather than after all the solar cells are tied together and that also makes the assembly less sensitive in output to shade over part of the bank of solar cells.
Large battery banks right now make the project unappealing as I already have alternative heat and generating capacity.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 12:09 PM (ctrM5)
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>>>Large battery banks right now make the project unappealing as I already have alternative heat and generating capacity.
Posted by: whig
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Give Musk a couple more years he'll have a much better battery.
Posted by: whig
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Give Musk a couple more years he'll have a much better battery.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 06, 2025 12:11 PM (PY/t0)
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On the other hand, one may always put on more clothes whereas after one is stripped naked that's it.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Eh, might want to talk to Bedouins about that. That is an example of adaptation to their particular climate where more clothes actually can reduce body heating. Air is a pretty good insulator to heat transference.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Eh, might want to talk to Bedouins about that. That is an example of adaptation to their particular climate where more clothes actually can reduce body heating. Air is a pretty good insulator to heat transference.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 12:12 PM (ctrM5)
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I take excepttion to the prevaleent usage of:
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
The sun is at noon right now, but that's like 9:34 on May 29th.
"It's 20 degrees, but it feels like 12."
The sun is at noon right now, but that's like 9:34 on May 29th.
Posted by: t-bird at January 06, 2025 12:16 PM (c/Z2E)
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Give Musk a couple more years he'll have a much better battery.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Tis true but I am not all that enthused about a large lithium ion battery complex near and about my house. Easier to just employ a few of the new lithium ion battery units for specific purposes instead of one big battery unit.
If I was offgrid it would be a Powerwall but I don't need that right now.
Next several years, when I replace the current AC, I look to be going to geothermal ac as I have the room to install a closed loop system and already have one working well on the property if I want to do open loop though I would have to drill another one to complete the loop.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Tis true but I am not all that enthused about a large lithium ion battery complex near and about my house. Easier to just employ a few of the new lithium ion battery units for specific purposes instead of one big battery unit.
If I was offgrid it would be a Powerwall but I don't need that right now.
Next several years, when I replace the current AC, I look to be going to geothermal ac as I have the room to install a closed loop system and already have one working well on the property if I want to do open loop though I would have to drill another one to complete the loop.
Posted by: whig at January 06, 2025 12:17 PM (ctrM5)
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101 For my money, the best weather reporting & predictions can be found on Mexican news broadcasts.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (XjTSo)
Oh wait, there’s a weather report happening on Mexican news broadcasts? ;-)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (FGFJD)
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Yes. something about bewbs and arses.
Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at January 06, 2025 11:25 AM (XjTSo)
Oh wait, there’s a weather report happening on Mexican news broadcasts? ;-)
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at January 06, 2025 11:26 AM (FGFJD)
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Yes. something about bewbs and arses.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, belli sederi at January 06, 2025 12:20 PM (i0xsb)
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"He was the reason that the lunar landers had massive landing pads on the legs. Gold posited that the lunar surface where it was not rocky had meters deep layers of dust. That would make landing perilous so NASA (despite evidence from Surveyor landings to the contrary) put massive landing pads on the LEM sufficient to land on massive loose dust surfaces. CYA at its finest."
Moon dust was actually a huge problem. I had the privilege of interviewing Pete Conrad at length (third man on the moon), and he told me it got into the LEM and onto everything: ultra-dry, of course, and static electricity made it stick to everything.
Worse, it got into the seals between helmet and suit, wrists and gloves, etc.; compromised the airtight integrity of the spacesuits. Conrad said that the Apollo suits could only be used for moon EVAs for about 72 hours for that reason.
He also told me what moon dust smells like: gunpowder.
Moon dust was actually a huge problem. I had the privilege of interviewing Pete Conrad at length (third man on the moon), and he told me it got into the LEM and onto everything: ultra-dry, of course, and static electricity made it stick to everything.
Worse, it got into the seals between helmet and suit, wrists and gloves, etc.; compromised the airtight integrity of the spacesuits. Conrad said that the Apollo suits could only be used for moon EVAs for about 72 hours for that reason.
He also told me what moon dust smells like: gunpowder.
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 12:27 PM (Epeb0)
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Who you gonna believe: the computer models or your lying frozen toes?
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at January 06, 2025 12:29 PM (fgkXD)
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294 Mike Benz said that USAID is a known CIA front, and she was sent to Nigeria by USAID, she left two weeks before a coup in Nigeria.
Also that USAID has nothing to do with foreign aid, it's purely a CIA operation.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 12:08 PM (2ocoG)
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United States Agency for International Development
see the trick? The wiki entry is so wrong. Its job is color revolutions and installing CIA-friendly tinpot dictators such as Z in Uke.
Also that USAID has nothing to do with foreign aid, it's purely a CIA operation.
Posted by: Ian S. at January 06, 2025 12:08 PM (2ocoG)
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United States Agency for International Development
see the trick? The wiki entry is so wrong. Its job is color revolutions and installing CIA-friendly tinpot dictators such as Z in Uke.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, belli sederi at January 06, 2025 12:29 PM (i0xsb)
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USAID does shovel a lot of money to the UN Population Fund. "Reproductive health" in sub-Saharan Africa.
Posted by: Beverly at January 06, 2025 12:39 PM (Epeb0)
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Record Cold? Weather
Record Heat? Climate Change
Record Heat? Climate Change
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia0 at January 06, 2025 12:50 PM (ynpvh)
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Studebaker reached out to Toyota and Nissan during the late 60's --Tonypete
Studebaker of Canada, a badging and sales successor firm.
By the late 60's, Studebaker-Worthington US was busily taking over other companies (Cooper Electric, then Federal Mogul). They were on an acquisitions tear in the last several years of car production, and all their subsidiaries did well except cars. They were way ahead of their time on that, too. Everyone's quitting.
Studebaker of Canada, a badging and sales successor firm.
By the late 60's, Studebaker-Worthington US was busily taking over other companies (Cooper Electric, then Federal Mogul). They were on an acquisitions tear in the last several years of car production, and all their subsidiaries did well except cars. They were way ahead of their time on that, too. Everyone's quitting.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 06, 2025 12:59 PM (zdLoL)
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Science!
Science!
Posted by: Thomas Dolby at January 06, 2025 01:36 PM (y9nCu)
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I would like to see the Keep it in the Ground useful idiots burning their anti fracking Keep it in the Ground signs just to stay warm on Cold snowy days
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 06, 2025 04:25 PM (wGqjj)
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Non-scientific predictions of this winter were it would b cold and wet.
Posted by: GWB at January 06, 2025 09:48 PM (WlvCt)
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