When California starts looking a little redder

This might be a bit of an exaggeration, but some people we might not have expected to turn toward the red seem to have modified their positions. And some who were already reasonable have become more vocal. We have seen a lot of terrible information coming out of the Los Angeles area over the past few days about Blue Government, but more jaw-dropping details drift out with the smoke from the fires.

Let's start with some pre-fire news by Team Blue California, though:

Big Accomplishment for Team Blue

On January 6, Gavin Newsom participated in a ceremony to drive spikes into a "first rail" of Jerry Brown's dream for High Speed Rail extending from San Diego to San Francisco (then Los Angeles to San Francisco, then . . .

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. (FOX26) - - Governor Gavin Newsom announced that the California high-speed rail project is poised to begin laying tracks, marking a significant milestone in the long-awaited infrastructure endeavor.
Newsom announced in Kern County on Monday, where he participated in a ceremonial event by driving spikes into the first track.
"The fact that we are here today to make visible finally we are here to lay some track to make real invisible all of the hard work of the last decade, decade and a half is a big damn deal," Newsom said.
The governor highlighted that the high-speed rail project, which spans the 171-mile route from Bakersfield to Merced, has already created 15,000 jobs.
He noted that 50 major projects, including bridges and other structures, have been completed, and the state has acquired 99 percent of the private parcels needed for the route.
"I've never thought of this fundamentally as a project that's just about rail," Newsom said. "It's about economic development. It's about creating a sense of place. It's about up zoning around the rail."
The Biden administration has contributed more than $6 billion to the high-speed rail project, though future federal funding remains uncertain.

Reminds you of the completion of transcontinental railroad, doesn't it? Ceremonial spikes and all . . .

IT'S NOT ABOUT HIGH SPEED RAIL, FOLKS! It's about transferring money to people favored by government.

Despite the criticism, Newsom remains committed to the project, dismissing detractors as "cynics" and emphasizing the importance of moving forward.
He stated that track laying for the high-speed rail is only months away, with early commitments on train sets also expected soon.

The project got its official start in 1996 after years of planning.

Track laying is only months away!

Even this remnant of Jerry Brown's dream is still facing opposition:

From December:

A Republican lawmaker has set his sights on federal funding for California's high-speed rail, driven by the ambitious initiative's escalating costs and significant delays.
On Wednesday, California Representative Kevin Kiley announced that he would be proposing a bill to halt federal funding for the "failed California High-Speed Rail Project."
"California's high-speed rail project has failed because of political ineptitude, and there is no plausible scenario where the cost to federal or state taxpayers can be justified," Kiley said on Wednesday. "Our share of federal transportation funding should go towards real infrastructure needs, such as improving roads that rank among the worst in the country."
When contacted for comment, Kiley's office said that the bill would be introduced at the beginning of the 119th Congress, set to commence on January 3.

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THEN THE FIRES HIT

Yesterday at Powerline, Wildfire of the Vanities, with efforts of the press to protect Democrat officials. Plus supercuts of officials trying to protect themselves.

And then, some strong words from a farmer, classicist and war historian, (VDH) with a transcript:

I’m here in California. I’ve been a lifelong resident of the state, fifth generation to live in the same house. I had a house in the Sierra, and it would almost burn down three years ago during the Aspen Fire, and I’m speaking on the evening when you’ve all heard about the disastrous fire in Los Angeles.
As I’m speaking on a Wednesday night, there have been 15,000 acres, 1,000 structures destroyed. Nobody knows how many people are killed or missing. And how do we characterize this? Everybody’s talking about the Santa Ana winds, climate change—I mean everybody, the people in power.
But it was preventable. And once it started, this fire, it could have been assuaged. You could have had it lessened, that the severity didn’t have to be as catastrophic. So, I would characterize it as a DEI–Green New Deal hydrogen bomb. It’s something out of “Dante’s Inferno.”
And what I mean by that is, it’s a systems breakdown, a civilizational collapse. When you look at the people in charge, [California Gov.] Gavin Newsom flew in, to sort of do these performance-art stunts, but he has systematically ensured that water out of the Sacramento River and the watershed of Northern California would go out to the sea, rather than into the aqueduct, so Los Angeles didn’t have sufficient amounts of water.

Performance Art: On my social media, the true lefties are mightily upset that Trump would "politicize" the fires. That is worse that the negligence of the officials in charge. During his first term, Trump repeatedly advised Newsom to manage forests and brush better, and increase water storage (per his legislation). But in April of 2021, Newsom promised much better fire prevention with the election of Biden. How did that work out?

Back to VDH:

He bragged not very long ago that he blew up four dams on the Klamath River. They provided 80,000 homes with clean hydroelectric power. They offered recreation, flood control, irrigation. He blew them up.
California’s fire management, whether we look at the Paradise Fire or the Aspen Fire near where I’m speaking, it destroyed 60 million trees. We have no timber industry in California. [Newsom’s] dismantled it.
We don’t clean the forest. We don’t let loggers come in and have a viable livelihood by harvesting trees. It’s sort of considered natural to let these things burn or to at least create the conditions in which they will inevitably be burned.
It’s almost as if we don’t like humans. We worry about grubs and worms and birds and the ecosystem.
The second breakdown was the mayor, Karen Bass, was in Africa. . .

It’s almost as if we don’t like humans. We worry about grubs and worms and birds and the ecosystem.

DEI Green New Deal Fire Hydrant

Looks nice, does not deliver water. At least is hasn't been stolen yet.

The head of the DWP makes $750,000 a year, a big boost from the previous head because she had experience at PG&E(!). AND THEY CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW LONG THE RESERVOIR ABOVE PACIFIC PALISADES HAS BEEN DRY.

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Celebrity News

Many on the left celebrated the loss of James Woods' home, but:

A miracle has happened. We managed to get to our property and our home, that we were told is gone forever, is still standing. In this hellish landscape “standing” is relative, but smoke and other damage is not like the utter destruction around us. The view from our deck area: pic.twitter.com/JZU2kTJC52
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) January 10, 2025

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Breitbart to Zuckerberg

An interesting little article. Check it out.

Holy crap Zuck seems (almost) like a biological human being on Rogan! I don’t think people give Joe enough credit.
— Seán Ono Lennon (@seanonolennon) January 10, 2025

Lefty contacts on FB are certain that Zuckerberg, Bezos and Musk are now slaves to Donald Trump. They are not too enthused about the idea of participating in community notes on FB. Heh.

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Weekend

Steven Hayward: The Week in Pictures: Gulf of America Edition!

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Music

Swaying Palms

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, January 4, Conspiracy Theories about Conspiracy Theories

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:20 AM

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1 Morning, KT!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:23 AM (2UnvF)

2 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:24 AM (fwDg9)

3 Duke you getting them or me?

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:24 AM (fwDg9)

4 I've informed the denizens below.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:24 AM (2UnvF)

5 Three quarters of a million dollars a year plus a huge benefits package for a public official that is in charge of the LA water supply and they fvcked it completely up.

Good job california, no wonder why the cost of living in that state is the second highest in the United States.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 11, 2025 11:27 AM (Rcnd3)

6 There is a place more expensive than California?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:29 AM (YeGMU)

7 Bureaucracy only is out to make more Bureaucracy

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:29 AM (fwDg9)

8 With all the devastation we should be grateful that the Hobo Express high-speed rail program is still "on track" (even though there is no actual track yet).

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 11, 2025 11:29 AM (JkO4W)

9 There is a place more expensive than California?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:29 AM (YeGMU)

Dubai, I think. Bern Switzerland. Monaco. North Korea.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 11:30 AM (D7oie)

10 Willowed: Speaking of twisted leftist morality, an Episcopalian priest in Virginia has effectively placed an interdiction on his parish regarding Communion until society meets his social justice demands.

You can't make this up. (Link to my blog on it.)

https://tinyurl.com/493sf3b6

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2025 11:30 AM (ZOv7s)

11 And that's how you get a bureaucrat making 3/4 of a million a year.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:31 AM (fwDg9)

12 Bureaucracy only is out to make more Bureaucracy
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:29 AM (fwDg9)

The purpose of bureaucracy is to avoid responsibilities for making the decisions that the bureaucrats are paid to make.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 11:31 AM (D7oie)

13 Do I even need to say it?

Posted by: Taggart at January 11, 2025 11:31 AM (Aqu9a)

14 Hi! Sorry I'm late. Migraine. If I act like a dope, it's because I feel dopey.

Posted by: KT at January 11, 2025 11:31 AM (xekrU)

15 Well, well, well. New Keurig is already here.

Take that, Amazon.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 11, 2025 11:33 AM (ZOv7s)

16 Do I even need to say it?
Posted by: Taggart at January 11, 2025 11:31 AM (Aqu9a)

If we were living in the world of Atlas Shrugged, John McAfee would be hijacking natural gas tankers on the Atlantic

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 11:33 AM (D7oie)

17 I don't buy the rosy projections of CA swinging to our side. How did Hawaii vote last fall?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 11, 2025 11:33 AM (1bNHn)

18 One of the almost dozen books on the Russian Bolsheviks had quite a bit how the KGB infiltrated western churches higher officials.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:34 AM (fwDg9)

19 Who you callin' a denizen??

Posted by: Cletus Delroy Spruckler at January 11, 2025 11:34 AM (PiwSw)

20 Visit California! It's America's Future!

Posted by: California Chamber Of Commerce and LGQTB NAMBLA Headquarters at January 11, 2025 11:35 AM (R/m4+)

21 Maybe Divine Providence is working through this fire, waking people up by smiting this new Gomorrah with a fire that reveals our leaders' corruption and incompetency.

And punishes those that have not paid attention and let these evil leaders thrive.

Maybe. I don't know.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 11, 2025 11:35 AM (ufFY8)

22 $8 billion to build two EV charging stations

$7.5 billion to build ZERO new CA reservoirs

Two decades and $15 billion spent on a choo-choo train that doesn't have a foot of track to show for it

Camping tents distributed to skid row bums in LA at $40,000 each

Trillions shoveled at "shovel-ready jobs" to no visible effect

It's almost as though we're not being governed very well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 11, 2025 11:37 AM (JkO4W)

23 Thanks for drawing a connection between the high speed rail boondoggle and the fire emergency fiasco.

Two sides of the same insane coin.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2025 11:38 AM (RIvkX)

24 There is a place more expensive than California?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:29 AM (YeGMU)

Dubai, I think. Bern Switzerland. Monaco. North Korea.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 11:30 AM (D7oie)

There's one difference between Nork and the rest of those places: You can't buy child sex slaves in North Korea.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 11:38 AM (lH8E4)

25 What does a $40,000 tent look like?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:39 AM (YeGMU)

26 More damn Disinformation!

Ben Domenech@bdomenech
"There is no shortage of water in the Los Angeles area. The reservoirs are at or above historical levels. The water is there." - @CNN fact checker Daniel Dale

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)

27 25 What does a $40,000 tent look like?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:39 AM (YeGMU)

Same as in town.

Posted by: Reforger at January 11, 2025 11:40 AM (xcIvR)

28 The head of the DWP makes $750,000 a year, a big boost from the previous head because she had experience at PG&E(!). AND THEY CAN'T ANSWER QUESTIONS

8 of the 10 highest paid LA city employees are DPW. $ 5.9 million . Odds on firings, resignations or early retirement amongst that group?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 11:41 AM (rtSlS)

29 It's almost as though we're not being governed very well.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 11, 2025 11:37 AM (JkO4W)

It's almost as though the more government you have, the worse it governs.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 11:42 AM (lH8E4)

30 The actual fire chief of Los Angeles County is named Anthony Marrone. He's white, about 60, and has 37 years with the department, having served as acting chief for several years after his predecessor retired. He's talking now, since the hood ornaments have been cleared from the stage.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 11, 2025 11:42 AM (zdLoL)

31 Would Hearst say ‘Go east, young man’ today?

Posted by: Eromero at January 11, 2025 11:42 AM (jgmnb)

32 Overpaid public officials occur in a lot of places. Erie, PA, not exactly a garden spot, had a school superintendent making $400K a year, with his wife on payroll for about $300K. Plus cars, travel and who knows what else. But they both had doctorates, so everything was OK.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 11, 2025 11:42 AM (gm9Sb)

33 Monaco would be my guess.
May have changed but remember some years ago, and think the article was related to F-1 that it was done purposely that keys were left in a Ferrari and no one touched it overnight. That kind of money laying around was as safe as in your bank.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:42 AM (fwDg9)

34 Well, sure LA is burning, but at least the lesbians are in charge!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:43 AM (2UnvF)

35 Apropos of nothing but I'm going to go hat shopping today. Depending on availability my choices will be flat hat, pork pie, fedora or homburg.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 11, 2025 11:43 AM (kTd/k)

36 Nothing will change in CA. Realistically you cannot remove layer upon layer of awful. Elected officials, state/city/county rules and laws and a citizenry that has allowed all of this to build to the leviathan it is. Like sending a toddler to battle Godzilla. CA is lost and the real shame is that every US taxpayer will pay for the devastating results of their pipe dreams. Good thing diversity is moving forward.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 11:43 AM (2NHgQ)

37 VDH absolutely nails it.
I've been waiting to hear/read his thoughts and he did not disappoint.
"...alarming symptoms of a society gone mad, and if this continues, and if this were to spread to other states, we would become a Third World country..."
Sadly Oregon and Washington are hot in the heels.of California in this slide into madness.
Will this be a wake-up call? For some I think. But enough of one?
I doubt it. The dems/Marxists will fight back every inch of the way.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 11:44 AM (W/lyH)

38 It can be lunch time
Oh wait, I am home so anytime can be lunch time

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:44 AM (fwDg9)

39 "What does a $40,000 tent look like?
Posted by: Boss Moss"

Genuine goat hair. Used by little old sheikh, only on Sundays.

Posted by: Mo Mo Mo's Tent Emporium at January 11, 2025 11:45 AM (vFG9F)

40 $7.5 billion to build ZERO new CA reservoirs

Two decades and $15 billion spent on a choo-choo train that doesn't have a foot of track to show for it

Camping tents distributed to skid row bums in LA at $40,000 each

Trillions shoveled at "shovel-ready jobs" to no visible effect

It's almost as though we're not being governed very well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 11, 2025 11:37 AM

We just had a brand new reservoir built in my county here in Texas. It's 26 square miles and can supply the DFW metroplex with 82 million gallons of water a day. It cost $1.6 billion dollars and took less than two years to build once they started working on the dam.

They started working on a second one last year.

It's not rocket surgery people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 11, 2025 11:45 AM (Rcnd3)

41 14 Hi! Sorry I'm late. Migraine. If I act like a dope, it's because I feel dopey.

Posted by: KT at January 11, 2025 11:31 AM (xekrU)
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Thanks for the thread KT. Feel better. Migraines are the pits.

Posted by: Scarymary at January 11, 2025 11:45 AM (zddDv)

42 Would Hearst say ‘Go east, young man’ today?

Probably not, since it was Horace Greeley who said it.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (zdLoL)

43 Free camel with every tent.

Posted by: Mo Mo Mo's Tent Emporium at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (vFG9F)

44 I've heard that Oregon sent fire engines to California, but they're not being used yet as they haven't passed an emissions inspection.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (2UnvF)

45 More damn Disinformation!

Ben Domenech@bdomenech
"There is no shortage of water in the Los Angeles area. The reservoirs are at or above historical levels. The water is there." - @CNN fact checker Daniel Dale
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 11:40 AM (L/fGl)

People who know can usually tell you which CNN employee works for which agency.

For example, the lady who had the fake prisoner in Syria story, she's apparently CIA. I wonder who this guy works for.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (lH8E4)

46 18 One of the almost dozen books on the Russian Bolsheviks had quite a bit how the KGB infiltrated western churches higher officials.
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:34 AM (fwDg9)

Some gal, back in the day, wrote her memoirs after she converted: "Oh, yes- we had men being ordained for decades and eventually putting the comrades in positions of authority."

Let me see if I can find the title.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:47 AM (f+FmA)

47 If you want something to relax, these folks restored an old cabin in Montana, complete with woodcook stove. This is a cooking video but there are videos on the restoration.

https://tinyurl.com/2yd8ucv2

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 11, 2025 11:49 AM (NQtI0)

48 Can we build the California refugees conestogas?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:49 AM (YeGMU)

49 It can be lunch time
Oh wait, I am home so anytime can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 11:44 AM (fwDg9)

*thinks cheesesteak*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 11, 2025 11:49 AM (RIvkX)

50 The thing about clearing out the dead underbrush is that you can do it or Mother Nature will do it for you and if she does it, she's not gonna be nice about it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:50 AM (2UnvF)

51 Let me see if I can find the title.
Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:47 AM (f+FmA)

Nah, but her name was Bella Dodd.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:50 AM (f+FmA)

52 Let's see. Ozark Trails cheapo pop up tent, about $20. Blow off $30 bucks at Aldi's for canned goods. $20 voucher for clothing at Goodwill. $30 for a half gallon of Valu Rite and a big bag of tobacco and rolling papers. You now have one happy homeless dude for under $40K.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 11, 2025 11:51 AM (gm9Sb)

53 Overpaid public officials occur in a lot of places. Erie, PA, not exactly a garden spot, had a school superintendent making $400K a year, with his wife on payroll for about $300K. Plus cars, travel and who knows what else. But they both had doctorates, so everything was OK.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 11, 2025 11:42 AM (gm9Sb)

The corruption starts early.
Do a FOI request for all the travel vouchers of you local city council.
A new guy gets elected mayor in Bugtussle and within months he/she has been invited to a conference on new technologies in first responder. The "honorarium" of course covers all the expenses of the travel, p!us a little extra.
And it gets worse over time.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 11:51 AM (W/lyH)

54 Diverse reactions to snow.

https://is.gd/w5BNPZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

55 Will Chief Marrone take any blame for what’s transpired or will it be Trump’s fault. 37 years and actual chief for 2 years and he’s allowed the hiring practices that are based on social justice, didn’t know that a reservoir was empty. Has he pushed for more reservoirs. I’m guessing he’s waiting on that sweet, sweet LA fire pension to kick in and he’ll retire to Phoenix.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 11:53 AM (2NHgQ)

56 >>The actual fire chief of Los Angeles County is named Anthony Marrone. He's white, about 60, and has 37 years with the department

Right, he's the fire chief of LA *County.*

The fire chief for *the city* of LA is Kirsten Lezbo-whatever

Posted by: one hour sober at January 11, 2025 11:53 AM (Y1sOo)

57 Those tents are actually $44,000.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:54 AM (YeGMU)

58 I've heard that Oregon sent fire engines to California, but they're not being used yet as they haven't passed an emissions inspection.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (2UnvF)

As of last night they were allowed to proceed from the border check station to Sacramento to have the vehicle inspections done there.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 11:54 AM (W/lyH)

59 Let me see if I can find the title.
Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:47 AM (f+FmA)

Nah, but her name was Bella Dodd.
Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:50 AM (f+FmA)

School Of Darkness

It's available on Amazon.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 11:55 AM (lH8E4)

60 CA bureaucrats are servicing Californians real good

Posted by: Ben Had at January 11, 2025 11:55 AM (0wWvl)

61 35 Apropos of nothing but I'm going to go hat shopping today. Depending on availability my choices will be flat hat, pork pie, fedora or homburg.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 11, 2025 11:43 AM (kTd/k
‘My English is more better now but my hat remains too flat….’

Posted by: Eromero at January 11, 2025 11:56 AM (jgmnb)

62 It's almost as though we're not being governed very well.
Posted by: Cicero

You're expecting physical results for money spent?

A true forensic audit for government management the last 30 years would be sickening except for the ingenious funneling of public funds into criminal pockets.

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 11:56 AM (j4U/Z)

63 CA bureaucrats are servicing CA bureaucrats. They cut out that pesky middleman.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 11:56 AM (2NHgQ)

64 One of the lefty "Harumph" memes going around is about low pay for inmate fire workers. But Kamala Harris worked to delay release and/or parole of inmates so they could work in prison industries and on firelines for low pay.

Posted by: KT at January 11, 2025 11:56 AM (xekrU)

65 Are the fires able to pass the emissions tests?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:56 AM (YeGMU)

66 I’m guessing he’s waiting on that sweet, sweet LA fire pension to kick in and he’ll retire to Phoenix.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 11:53 AM (2NHgQ)

Years of service pension percentage: 50% of the final average salary at 20 years of service, plus 3% for each additional year, except for the 30th year when it's 4%. The maximum percentage is 90% at 33 or more years of service. I' rich bitches! Suck it losers! Pay me!

Posted by: Chief Marrone, Looter And Moocher at January 11, 2025 11:56 AM (R/m4+)

67 I've heard that Oregon sent fire engines to California, but they're not being used yet as they haven't passed an emissions inspection.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (2UnvF)

As of last night they were allowed to proceed from the border check station to Sacramento to have the vehicle inspections done there.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 11:54
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You guys are joking right? Lie to me if you have to.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 11, 2025 11:58 AM (hoCmQ)

68 We are doing the New Year's House Purge.
The 2025 liturgical calendar I got from the FSSP has been MIA since early Dec.
I put it in a "safe place", which I did not make a note of.
Looked in all the logical places- not there.
Working on the kitchen now- it was in the cookbook rack, with the local info/menus folder.

It's lovely to have open bookshelves and emptier drawers and cabinets, but we have piles of things waiting for the Thrift Store to open again.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:58 AM (f+FmA)

69 Will no one think of the Teslas?
Or the Rivians?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 11, 2025 11:59 AM (dg+HA)

70 You guys are joking right? Lie to me if you have to.
Posted by: olddog in mo at January 11, 2025 11:58 AM (hoCmQ)

Ummm...
Are you sitting down? You need to be sitting down.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 11:59 AM (W/lyH)

71 Will this be a wake-up call? For some I think. But enough of one?
I doubt it. The dems/Marxists will fight back every inch of the way.
Posted by: Diogenes

I'm not optimistic about the woke actually awakening . The only thing I can predict is that the volume of incoherent voices will go up. I also firmly believe that Nero Newsome believes he is the future of the Democratic party and that 2028 will be his Bob Dole moment.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 11:59 AM (rtSlS)

72 42 Would Hearst say ‘Go east, young man’ today?

Probably not, since it was Horace Greeley who said it.
Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at January 11, 2025 11:46 AM (zdLoL)
But did Horace Greeley’s great granddaughter rob a bank? I think not.

Posted by: Eromero at January 11, 2025 12:00 PM (jgmnb)

73
Not to depress anyone, but California is NOT going to start voting Republican over this; the cake is baked and we are all going to continue to have to eat it.

Oh! Look! No power, no water, no sanitation, no housing! Cuba and Venezuela are going to start voting out communists!

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:00 PM (j4U/Z)

74 Malfeasance is a word we need to be hearing a lot more of in the future.
The near future.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 12:01 PM (W/lyH)

75 I’m not typically so cynical, however when I read the other day that you needed a permit in cali to install a new garage door, there’s no solution for their ills. I feel sorry for the innocents and hope they can eventually move elsewhere. Not MT, we’re full up.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 12:01 PM (2NHgQ)

76 What does a $40,000 tent look like?
Posted by: Boss Moss

Same as a $400 one without the graft.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 11, 2025 12:01 PM (WXNFJ)

77 Depending on availability my choices will be flat hat, pork pie, fedora or homburg.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at January 11, 2025 11:43 AM (kTd/k)

I like a fedora, but it ultimately depends on which style best complements your face shape.

Posted by: Emmie at January 11, 2025 12:01 PM (Sf2cq)

78 James Woods, no standing, we must have equity, tear that house down.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:02 PM (TRSaI)

79 "On January 6, Gavin Newsom participated in a ceremony to drive spikes into a "first rail" of Jerry Brown's dream for High Speed Rail extending from San Diego to San Francisco (then Los Angeles to San Francisco, then . . ."

The ironic thing is that Newsom hated Brown, and vice versa. Gavin didn't need to finish Brown's boondoggle. I guess he had his own reasons for continuing it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 11, 2025 12:02 PM (oqgEn)

80 Maintenance smaitenace, what's the worst that can happen, oh wait.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 12:02 PM (YeGMU)

81 Thanks, Burt!
To be fair to the Episcopalians, they started copying Vat II nonsense back in the 60's. It got progressively worse until they jumped the shark with women's ordination in the 80's.
Now, like other denominations, they are split on doctrinal lines.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:03 PM (f+FmA)

82 Fox reporting they are clearing brush around structures. Escaped horse, barn door.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 11, 2025 12:04 PM (gm9Sb)

83 Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 11:50 AM (f+FmA)

School of Darkness, I belive.

Posted by: Polliwogette at January 11, 2025 12:05 PM (hLcTl)

84 The question that comes to mind is who will be given priority for available housing in LA, Todd and Mandy Smith or Miguel Jesus Arturo Rodriguez and his wife, 4 kids and 6 cousins?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:05 PM (rtSlS)

85 Don’t forget Kumallah spent $40 billion and connected ZERO PEOPLE to high speed internet!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 11, 2025 12:05 PM (17s+e)

86 It would be lovely to have lefties wake up and stop supporting destruction and defilement. But people are sooooo blind to themselves and resistant to positive change. Even me. If that were not the case, I'd be much more disciplined and less stressed about the small stuff.

Posted by: Emmie at January 11, 2025 12:06 PM (Sf2cq)

87 In my state we have this contractor, Asplundh, that trims brush around the power lines.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 12:06 PM (YeGMU)

88 17 I don't buy the rosy projections of CA swinging to our side. How did Hawaii vote last fall?
Posted by: Eeyore
---

Those that would have been red pilled received the red death.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:07 PM (TRSaI)

89 By the time these fires are out thousands of people will have been displaced. Will they vote in the next election? Probably. Will it matter? Only locally. I predict this will flip 3, maybe four House seats nationally and about the same number at the state level. Will it change anything?
Not really. We will hear a lot of huffing and puffing and see some high vis "absolutely vital" things get started, but the lies will continue.
The best we can hope for in a 51st state of Northern California.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 12:07 PM (W/lyH)

90 Oh! Look! No power, no water, no sanitation, no housing! Cuba and Venezuela are going to start voting out communists!
Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:00 PM (j4U/Z)

Now do counties in Florida, like Miami-Dade.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:08 PM (lH8E4)

91
There's, like, 600 different Baptist denominations.

Try Pope'in that shit, Frankie.

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:08 PM (j4U/Z)

92 Seriously hope the GOPe helps kill Federal funding for the Cali high speed rail project. However odds are the GOPe will be worry that their own cash cow boondoggle will be next (ie ethanol)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 11, 2025 12:08 PM (RLc6v)

93 The project got its official start in 1996 after years of planning.

Idaho Power has been trying to build a new transmission line, almost entirely within the State of Oregon:

After 19 years of planning, development, permitting, lawsuits, delays and seemingly everything in between, Idaho Power is hoping to finally break ground on the Boardman to Hemingway Transmission Line project in the first half of 2025

Posted by: Left-Wing Portland Nonprofits! at January 11, 2025 12:09 PM (uxCna)

94 Thanks, Burt!
To be fair to the Episcopalians, they started copying Vat II nonsense back in the 60's. It got progressively worse until they jumped the shark with women's ordination in the 80's.
Now, like other denominations, they are split on doctrinal lines.
Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:03 PM (f+FmA)

I'd like to see an investigation into the correlation between these commie infiltrators and the sex predators.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:09 PM (lH8E4)

95 I think California is just a larger version of the capitol city. With better real estate. Or had better real estate.

There are policies in place that would have mitigated the destruction caused by wildfires. Nobody wants to enforce them. Just as nobody in the capitol city want to properly govern for the well being of the country.

Same shit. Different place. Same results. Felonious Trump's administration is going to have their hands full trying to sort all this out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 12:11 PM (Q4IgG)

96 @84 neither. It will be Lance and Bruce and Princess Fabulous the tranny

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 11, 2025 12:11 PM (RLc6v)

97 91
There's, like, 600 different Baptist denominations.

That's a lot of fried chicken.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 11, 2025 12:11 PM (dg+HA)

98 True life Fargo.

https://is.gd/OWvrfh

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

99 Wrechardthecat didn’t. mention the cover on the reservoir that was installed in 2009. It looks like it was never fully refilled after that whivch tells me that t the cover failed and that fact was covered up.

Some journalist should dig into this because we are talking about some serious legal issues here.

Posted by: pawn at January 11, 2025 12:12 PM (oWKM+)

100 I don't buy the rosy projections of CA swinging to our side. How did Hawaii vote last fall?
Posted by: Eeyore
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Those that would have been red pilled received the red death.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:07 PM (TRSaI)

I don't think it should need to be said, but I'm gonna say it anyway... swinging elections and voters kinda depend on having the candidates who are capable of doing so.

As has been noted time and again, Florida swung from a swing state to as solid red as any. That girlie boots man, Ron DeSanctimonious had as much to do with that as anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:12 PM (lH8E4)

101 Miss us yet?

Posted by: 50 year old white guys at January 11, 2025 12:13 PM (dg+HA)

102 I don't think it should need to be said, but I'm gonna say it anyway... swinging elections and voters kinda depend on having the candidates who are capable of doing so.

As has been noted time and again, Florida swung from a swing state to as solid red as any. That girlie boots man, Ron DeSanctimonious had as much to do with that as anything.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:12 PM (lH8E4)

And then of course, there was this fella named Don Trump.

He did some things, in the realm of swinging voters.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:13 PM (lH8E4)

103 After 19 years of planning, development, permitting, lawsuits, delays and seemingly everything in between

Mark Steyn just wrote an article recapping an article he wrote in 2010 where a reader criticized Mark for his negativity, saying that "“we’re rich enough to afford to be stupid.”

Somehow, we're not looking so rich anymore.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 11, 2025 12:15 PM (uxCna)

104 Only a true believer Leftist would worry about emissions when a city is burning down causing for carbon to go in the air than all the vehicles in a state could put up

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 12:16 PM (fwDg9)

105 The thing of whit men bully most of the country and when you specifically exclude whites men from taking care of the shit they built the things they built turn to shit.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 11, 2025 12:16 PM (17s+e)

106 91
There's, like, 600 different Baptist denominations.

Try Pope'in that shit, Frankie.
Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:08 PM (j4U/Z)

Well, we don't believe in interpretating the Bible on our own, so that helps...

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:16 PM (f+FmA)

107 What does a $40,000 tent look like?
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Ozark Mountain three person tent. Available at Wal-Mart for $40.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 11, 2025 12:17 PM (4780s)

108 As if they don't have enough to deal with in southern California, now this: a break-in at the Army Reserve Center in Orange County:

https://tinyurl.com/7r6hrf9e

Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.

Posted by: Just reporting at January 11, 2025 12:17 PM (tdeL5)

109 What does a $40,000 tent look like?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:39 AM (YeGMU)

Like a 200-dollar tent with $39,800 of grift attached.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 11, 2025 12:18 PM (8zz6B)

110 HOW LONG THE RESERVOIR ABOVE PACIFIC PALISADES HAS BEEN DRY.

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Picture of the aforementioned reservoir.

https://is.gd/FlCn1C

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:18 PM (L/fGl)

111 Watch that clip from FNC of the woman who approached Newscum while he had a phone to his ear.

She could out word-salad Harris. And you can bet she voted for Harris and Newscum.

Looking like a face-tightened LA woman, maybe 60, she says her daughter is 3, and nowhere in the interview was there a mention of dad.

My heart does not bleed.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 11, 2025 12:19 PM (KiBMU)

112 106
'Well, we don't believe in interpretating the Bible on our own, so that helps...'

Well, YOU don't.
I do it whenever globohomo tells me to.

Posted by: Pope Frankie at January 11, 2025 12:19 PM (3wi/L)

113 Burn the false priest, is that what you say?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 11, 2025 12:20 PM (jXUKE)

114 As if they don't have enough to deal with in southern California, now this: a break-in at the Army Reserve Center in Orange County:

https://tinyurl.com/7r6hrf9e

Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.
Posted by: Just reporting

Cartel military preparations.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:20 PM (rtSlS)

115 Karen Bass is giving a news conference now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2025 12:20 PM (63Dwl)

116 105 The thing of whit men bully most of the country and when you specifically exclude whites men from taking care of the shit they built the things they built turn to shit.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 11, 2025 12:16 PM (17s+e)

Friends who lived overseas explained that the concept of maintenance was almost impossible to explain to certain cultures.
So when the evil colonials left ...

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:20 PM (f+FmA)

117 Cleaning house.

Leading Report@LeadingReport
BREAKING: Incoming National Security Adviser Mike Waltz says all intelligence officials assigned to the National Security Council under Biden must leave by 12:01 p.m. Eastern on Inauguration Day, when President-elect Donald Trump is inaugurated again.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:21 PM (L/fGl)

118 As if they don't have enough to deal with in southern California, now this: a break-in at the Army Reserve Center in Orange County:

https://tinyurl.com/7r6hrf9e

Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.
Posted by: Just reporting at January 11, 2025 12:17 PM (tdeL5)

If there's a sudden rise in bayonet stab wounds for the cripes OR the bloods, we'll know.

What good are the machine gun mounts without machine guns. What, are they gonna sell them for scrap metal?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:21 PM (lH8E4)

119 Today celebrities are hurting. So many have lost so much.
But you can help.
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Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 12:21 PM (W/lyH)

120 Every vehicle that will be used to rebuild in L.A. will have an internal combustion engine, unless Newscum does some kind of executive order that they all be EVs. The lumber deliveries, concrete, roofing, etc. All EV.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 11, 2025 12:22 PM (KiBMU)

121 > It got progressively worse
Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:03 PM (f+FmA)

I see what you did there.

Heh.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 11, 2025 12:22 PM (W5ArC)

122
I get a notice every spring in Michigan about the power company coming through to clear an easement they have over property I own; they sort-of-kind-of ask you about not using some Round-up derivative weed killer and I always say no, but can never get a deer food plot to grow so I know they're doing it anyway.

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:22 PM (j4U/Z)

123 On January 6, Gavin Newsom participated in a ceremony to drive spikes into a "first rail" of Jerry Brown's dream for High Speed Rail

That's great. It's a monorail?

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2025 12:23 PM (D7mYu)

124 Like a 200-dollar tent with $39,800 of grift attached.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 11, 2025 12:18 PM (8zz6B)

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Bingo.

Those company-car Bentleys that the NGO managers drive don't pay for themselves.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 11, 2025 12:23 PM (JkO4W)

125 Friends who lived overseas explained that the concept of maintenance was almost impossible to explain to certain cultures.

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power! at January 11, 2025 12:24 PM (uxCna)

126 It's almost as though we're not being governed very well.
Posted by: Cicero

The government is accomplishing exactly what it set out to do.

We're just being lied to about their goals.

Posted by: mikeski at January 11, 2025 12:24 PM (DgGvY)

127 Like a 200-dollar tent with $39,800 of grift attached.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Your giving them too much credit. 200 dollar tent was probably purchased at REI on sale for $898.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:24 PM (rtSlS)

128 For half a century, 'as CA goes so goes the rest', CA set the standard for products. The auto industry and many others bent to CA's emission and safety standards before they became federal law. S&W put safeties on their revolvers, for heavens sake, because of CA. It's a long list.

California will no longer set the standard. It has discredited itself to the public and to corporate. The nation has been set free of their delusions.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:24 PM (TRSaI)

129 And the track that Gavin tapped the spike into is only the track for supplies, not the actual track for the train. That's my understanding.

This state is just doomed.

Posted by: PJ at January 11, 2025 12:24 PM (RRCAT)

130 > There's, like, 600 different Baptist denominations.

That's a lot of fried chicken.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 11, 2025 12:11 PM (dg+HA)

A friend of mine as a kid was a Baptist minister's daughter.

She told me that one of his previous congregations had had a schism over what color to paint the basement.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at January 11, 2025 12:25 PM (W5ArC)

131 Finding 3 military Humvees shouldn't be hard to spot if out riding around.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 12:25 PM (fwDg9)

132 What does a $40,000 tent look like?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 11:39 AM (YeGMU)

Like a 200-dollar tent with $39,800 of grift attached.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 11, 2025 12:18 PM (8zz6B)

So the question is, who caused there to be no $200 tents available for sale?

I'm gonna take a guess.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:25 PM (lH8E4)

133 Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.
Posted by: Just reporting

Cartel military preparations.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:20 PM (rtSlS)
***

Future insider threat.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 12:25 PM (W/lyH)

134 Auspex, the LA daughter and family are currently in Ann Arbor.
I'm sending her thought waves about staying there.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:26 PM (f+FmA)

135 California, a prophet on the burning shore

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)

136 TIME@TIME
L.A. fires show the reality of living in a world with 1.5°C of warming

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And that's Time, the blue chip of news magazines.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:26 PM (L/fGl)

137 What good are the machine gun mounts without machine guns. What, are they gonna sell them for scrap metal?
Posted by: BurtTC

The M240s have already been smuggled up from Mexico.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:27 PM (rtSlS)

138 A friend of mine as a kid was a Baptist minister's daughter.

She told me that one of his previous congregations had had a schism over what color to paint the basement.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Splitter!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:27 PM (L/fGl)

139 136 TIME@TIME
L.A. fires show the reality of living in a world with 1.5°C of warming

Because there has never been a fire in Southern CA since the World began ...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 11, 2025 12:28 PM (VE6XX)

140 Call now. Operators are standing by.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 12:21 PM (W/lyH)

I'm sorry, but I'm gonna need to see video of said celebs shivering in a cage, with Sarah McLachlan's song playing over it, before I get my credit card out.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:28 PM (lH8E4)

141 TIME@TIME
L.A. fires show the reality of living in a world with 1.5°C of warming

It turns fire departments lesbian? That sounds like a conspiracy theory to me!

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2025 12:28 PM (D7mYu)

142 Anybody read the Breitbart to Zuckerberg article?

Posted by: KT at January 11, 2025 12:29 PM (xekrU)

143 Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.
Posted by: Just reporting

What good are the machine gun mounts without machine guns.
Posted by: BurtTC

"Among" the stolen items. They conveniently didn't list the guns and ammo. Wouldn't want to get the public worried.

I'm just hoping the "unspecified medical equipment" isn't samples of smallpox or anthrax.

Also, that looks like it should be set to the tune of "The Twelve Days Of Christmas."

".....and unspecified medical things."

Posted by: mikeski at January 11, 2025 12:29 PM (DgGvY)

144 The shining city on the hill is burning to the ground.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 12:30 PM (YeGMU)

145 Call now. Operators are standing by.
Posted by: Diogenes
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You think you're joking. They actually have GoFundMe sites up.
JamieLeeCurtis was on one of the talk shows crying for donations.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:30 PM (TRSaI)

146 What good are the machine gun mounts without machine guns. What, are they gonna sell them for scrap metal?
Posted by: BurtTC

The M240s have already been smuggled up from Mexico.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:27 PM (rtSlS)

Ok, not to be pedantic, but SAWs don't need mounts. And if the crips/bloods turn them sideways when they shoot, they're not going to be very accurate.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:30 PM (lH8E4)

147 “we’re rich enough to afford to be stupid.”

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You know, like Michael Jackson.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:31 PM (L/fGl)

148 Then you have this horseshit from ca. Have you noticed how many items sold on Amazon that have a ca cancer warning?
https://tinyurl.com/y7vn45kw
This is just for appliances.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 12:32 PM (2NHgQ)

149 I'm just hoping the "unspecified medical equipment" isn't samples of smallpox or anthrax.

Also, that looks like it should be set to the tune of "The Twelve Days Of Christmas."

".....and unspecified medical things."
Posted by: mikeski at January 11, 2025 12:29 PM (DgGvY)

Covid 2025!

But on the bright side, I'd like to think they don't actually HAVE weapons and ammo at those Natty Guard sites.

People in uniform can't be trusted with such things.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:32 PM (lH8E4)

150 Curris LeMay in March 1945 only burned out 16 sq miles of Tokyo.

LA? 55 sq miles so far.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 12:32 PM (MBS2I)

151 I get a notice every spring in Michigan about the power company coming through to clear an easement they have over property I own; they sort-of-kind-of ask you about not using some Round-up derivative weed killer and I always say no, but can never get a deer food plot to grow so I know they're doing it anyway.
Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:22 PM (j4U/Z)

Maybe you should let them use Roundup, and not the alternative. Roundup only kills green, growing plants by absorption into the leaves. Whatever falls to the soil breaks down, and is harmless. Maybe the alternative is a soil-based herbicide that works on roots and sprouting seeds?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 11, 2025 12:33 PM (8zz6B)

152 Think you can stream live video of KTLA5 coverage. An airshow of awesome firefighter aircraft.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with festive little hats and interpretive dance. at January 11, 2025 12:33 PM (QEnxz)

153 The liberals in CA are the most tarded of the libtards and will be the last to figure it out.

Posted by: Roy at January 11, 2025 12:33 PM (z+ik4)

154 > Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.
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And the criminals tried to get uniforms too... if reports are accurate. Yea... something's up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 12:34 PM (Q4IgG)

155 40 but... But... The IS NAIL DARTER....!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 11, 2025 12:35 PM (Ag+aB)

156 148 Then you have this horseshit from ca. Have you noticed how many items sold on Amazon that have a ca cancer warning?
https://tinyurl.com/y7vn45kw
This is just for appliances.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 12:32 PM (2NHgQ)

They need to fly one of those small planes dragging a sign around the city that says the air in LA might be carcinogenic.

Posted by: Roy at January 11, 2025 12:35 PM (z+ik4)

157 Looters dressed as Army Guard soldiers

Way to go California, your very own death squads. NOPD during Katrina looted stores IIRC.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 12:36 PM (MBS2I)

158 Celebritard: I paid $10 million for my house, and it was worth $15 million when it burned down! Why are you only giving me $1.5 million?

Insurance Co.: Because that's all it costs to rebuild it.

Celebritard: I don't want to rebuild it! I want to take the money and buy a house in Florida!

Posted by: Orange Skies Bad! at January 11, 2025 12:36 PM (qUkBO)

159 Ok, not to be pedantic, but SAWs don't need mounts.

A true moron you are. Being only marginally informed about military weapons, the M240 was the first thing that came to mind. I have now learned my one new thing for the day.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:37 PM (rtSlS)

160 Think you can stream live video of KTLA5 coverage. An airshow of awesome firefighter aircraft.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with festive little hats and interpretive dance. at January 11, 2025 12:33 PM (QEnxz)

We have an AOS Moron, DB Cooper, flying some of those missions, as he himself mentioned here a day or two ago.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 11, 2025 12:37 PM (8zz6B)

161 Curtis LeMay? Hold my beer.

Posted by: Karen Bass at January 11, 2025 12:37 PM (YeGMU)

162 Have to say the cancer warning signs on the door of a McDonald's in LA was what made me say "What the hell is wrong with you people?" IRL.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:38 PM (f+FmA)

163 Have to say the cancer warning signs on the door of a McDonald's in LA was what made me say "What the hell is wrong with you people?" IRL.
Posted by: sal

In California government? Ask "what isn't wrong." The list will be shorter.

Posted by: mikeski at January 11, 2025 12:40 PM (DgGvY)

164 Okay- this is isn't getting the freezer cleaned out.
Have a great day, all.
Missed the Prayer List, but you have them everyday anyway.

Posted by: sal at January 11, 2025 12:41 PM (f+FmA)

165 I would think it was a professional robbery by drug gangs and quite possibly illegals

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 12:41 PM (fwDg9)

166 But on the bright side, I'd like to think they don't actually HAVE weapons and ammo at those Natty Guard sites.

People in uniform can't be trusted with such things.
Posted by: BurtTC

Nephew is a full time ANG tech sergeant in Spokane. According to him, they have a fairly substantial armory and ammo supply on hand.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:41 PM (rtSlS)

167 L.A. fires show the reality of living in a world with 1.5°C of warming

Huh, then there should be all kinds of evidence of even stronger fires since the globe is unusually cool when viewed in the context of a secular understanding of the age of the Earth.

But I think the fire shows the reality of living in a world with malevolent corrupt government thugs and arsonists.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 11, 2025 12:41 PM (rHxhM)

168 Pretty sure the Guard has a bugout checklist.

1. Turn off the gas.
2. Remove classified material.
3. Remove all firearms and ammo.
4. Lock the doors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 12:41 PM (MBS2I)

169 Then you have this horseshit from ca. Have you noticed how many items sold on Amazon that have a ca cancer warning?
https://tinyurl.com/y7vn45kw

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I listened to Caesar's Civil War 49-44 B.C. by Adrian Goldsworthy a few weeks ago that begins with a disclaimer assuring us of no defamatory intent. I guess they didn't want to piss those touchy pro Pompey radicals off.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:42 PM (L/fGl)

170 Every bit of carbon sequestration and remediation ever by California has been blown away in the last few days. Like it never happened.

Posted by: fd at January 11, 2025 12:42 PM (vFG9F)

171 95 I think California is just a larger version of the capitol city.

of panem?

Posted by: anachronda at January 11, 2025 12:42 PM (edU/H)

172 Does Kristine Larson still have her job?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 11, 2025 12:43 PM (dg+HA)

173 171 95 I think California is just a larger version of the capitol city.

of panem?
Posted by: anachronda at January 11, 2025 12:42 PM (edU/H)

Yes.. It has it's share of freaks and elitists

Posted by: It's me donna at January 11, 2025 12:43 PM (VE6XX)

174 170 Every bit of carbon sequestration and remediation ever by California has been blown away in the last few days.

which means you're just going to have to sacrifice harder to make up for it, h8r!

Posted by: greta thunderbird at January 11, 2025 12:44 PM (edU/H)

175 Right now, at KTLA's live stream, all I see is Bass, Fire Chief Lezbo and the chick doing the sign language, along with three big, dufus-looking white guys standing behind them nodding like trained seals.

Posted by: one hour sober at January 11, 2025 12:44 PM (Y1sOo)

176 152 Think you can stream live video of KTLA5 coverage.
https://ktla.com/on-air/live-streaming/
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It looks like a war zone.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:45 PM (TRSaI)

177 172 Does Kristine Larson still have her job?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 11, 2025 12:43 PM (dg+HA)

The fact that she didn't know the reservoir was empty should be reason enough.. perhaps those type of things should be checked especially when you had days notice of the Santa Ana winds

Posted by: It's me donna at January 11, 2025 12:45 PM (VE6XX)

178 All the regulations and taxes and restrictions on carbon are for naught. CARB's efforts were pissed away in the wind.

Posted by: fd at January 11, 2025 12:45 PM (vFG9F)

179 35 Apropos of nothing but I'm going to go hat shopping today. Depending on availability my choices will be flat hat, pork pie, fedora or homburg.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup

I just returned from Texas with 2 new Stetson open Roads

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 11, 2025 12:46 PM (WF/xn)

180 It would be lovely to have lefties wake up and stop supporting destruction and defilement. But people are sooooo blind to themselves and resistant to positive change.

Posted by: Emmie at January 11, 2025 12:06 PM

You can't reason someone out of something they did not first reason themselves into.

Wokeness is a religious cult. Just like you cannot reason someone out of belief in their religion, same with wokeness.

DEI, CRT, ESG, transgender/gender BS, "climate change", environmentalism, "toxic masculinity", support of illegal aliens, you name it. There is no reasoning the woke out of their belief system. Especially when the last 2-3 generations were never taught how to reason in school / college / university.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 12:46 PM (P5BPp)

181 The government is accomplishing exactly what it set out to do.

The system is what the system does.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 11, 2025 12:46 PM (rHxhM)

182 Can you imagine the Carbon assprint of all these fires.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 12:47 PM (YeGMU)

183 I’m not typically so cynical, however when I read the other day that you needed a permit in cali to install a new garage door, there’s no solution for their ills. I feel sorry for the innocents and hope they can eventually move elsewhere. Not MT, we’re full up.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 11, 2025 12:01 PM (2NHgQ)

And not OK. We just don't want 'em. Buncha' prancing sissies.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:47 PM (g8Ew8)

184 Kristine Larson is probably having a weenie roast with a 5 gallon side of Rocky Road.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 12:47 PM (MBS2I)

185 Maybe the alternative is a soil-based herbicide that works on roots and sprouting seeds?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Thanks for the advice! I'm told only that it's a long term herbicide and have been directed to an MSU extension guy.

Also, per P.J. O'Rourke, I'm lying about "owning" property. Fail to pay the twice annual property tax and the state takes it.

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:47 PM (j4U/Z)

186 Ok, not to be pedantic, but SAWs don't need mounts.
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A true moron you are. Being only marginally informed about military weapons, the M240 was the first thing that came to mind. I have now learned my one new thing for the day.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:37 PM (rtSlS)

Heh. I carried one for a couple years, I might as well get something out of that experience.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:48 PM (lH8E4)

187 > As if they don't have enough to deal with in southern California, now this: a break-in at the Army Reserve Center in Orange County:

https://tinyurl.com/7r6hrf9e

Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;
— seven free-standing machine gun tripods;
— unspecified medical equipment;
— 40 pairs of binoculars; and
— 18 bayonets.
Posted by: Just reporting

>>Cartel military preparations.
Posted by: Sock Monkey

What isn't generally known is that much of the retail theft in California isn't just committed by lone smash-and-grab thieves or local mobs. It's organized cartel crime. They've become so emboldened that they've stolen untold millions of dollars worth of merchandise from warehouses and overseas shipping containers.

They've already seized and continue to hold territory in California and the desert Southwest while seeking to expand it.

So yes, I'd put Mexican cartels at the top of the list of suspects responsible for a break-in at an Army Reserve Center.

Posted by: Just reporting at January 11, 2025 12:48 PM (tdeL5)

188 Nephew is a full time ANG tech sergeant in Spokane. According to him, they have a fairly substantial armory and ammo supply on hand.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli

This was 30 or 40 years ago but I was shocked when I saw the armories some of the Western Slope little towns' law enforcement agencies had including anti- armor RPGs. I guess if Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid upgrade to tanks, they'll be ready.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:49 PM (L/fGl)

189 But on the bright side, I'd like to think they don't actually HAVE weapons and ammo at those Natty Guard sites.

People in uniform can't be trusted with such things.
Posted by: BurtTC

Nephew is a full time ANG tech sergeant in Spokane. According to him, they have a fairly substantial armory and ammo supply on hand.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:41 PM (rtSlS)

Hopefully more securely stored than their binoculars.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:49 PM (lH8E4)

190 Only Arnold shoots M240s from the hip.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (TRSaI)

191 Heh. I carried one for a couple years, I might as well get something out of that experience.
Posted by: BurtTC

I have a foxhole I will gladly share with you.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (rtSlS)

192 DEI, CRT, ESG, transgender/gender BS, "climate change", environmentalism, "toxic masculinity", support of illegal aliens, you name it. There is no reasoning the woke out of their belief system. Especially when the last 2-3 generations were never taught how to reason in school / college / university.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 12:46 PM (P5BPp)

This is true. Tens of millions of people in this country will die miserable and stupid.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (g8Ew8)

193 By the time these fires are out thousands of people will have been displaced. Will they vote in the next election? Probably. Will it matter? Only locally. I predict this will flip 3, maybe four House seats nationally and about the same number at the state level.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 11, 2025 12:07 PM

I predict the only elections that will flip will be the ones that the state of California allows to flip. Didn't they enshrine into law voter fraud in California? (i.e. no requirement to show identification to vote) The future of California is the corruption of the 2020 election over and over again.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (P5BPp)

194 Palisades fire is headed to the San Fernando Valley. That is wine country?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 12:51 PM (YeGMU)

195 Considering fuel prices in California all LEOs better BOLO for gas station robberies.

And HUMVEEs always seem to have the heater on.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 12:51 PM (MBS2I)

196 150 Curris LeMay in March 1945 only burned out 16 sq miles of Tokyo.

LA? 55 sq miles so far.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Incendiaries + wind is a wicked combination.

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 12:51 PM (j4U/Z)

197 The government is accomplishing exactly what it set out to do.

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Rather like Audrey in Little Shop of Horrors.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

198 If your disbelief has been turned off the last couple decades this last week probably isn't turning that off. Your sucked into believing Global warming caused it and nothing man could do would have saved the city.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 12:52 PM (fwDg9)

199 Clint Eastwood used two, count them two, MP40s.

So there.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 12:53 PM (MBS2I)

200 Heh. I carried one for a couple years, I might as well get something out of that experience.
Posted by: BurtTC

I have a foxhole I will gladly share with you.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (rtSlS)

I take up more space than I used to. We're gonna need a bigger foxhole.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:53 PM (lH8E4)

201 > So yes, I'd put Mexican cartels at the top of the list of suspects responsible for a break-in at an Army Reserve Center.
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Couple cartel adjacent homies who are in the Reserves wouldn't be farfetched either. Seeing as we're talking about the state of California... cartel central and they don't ask no questions about your affiliations.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 12:53 PM (Q4IgG)

202 Every vehicle that will be used to rebuild in L.A. will have an internal combustion engine, unless Newscum does some kind of executive order that they all be EVs. The lumber deliveries, concrete, roofing, etc. All EV.

That creates an interesting situation. No sane person would use their own money to build on a site under those conditions.

OTOH, does an insurance company have to pay whatever it takes to replace a homeowner's residence if the residence is insured? Mortgage companies would be hacked off if the collateral can't be restored, but if CA piles the regulations on so deep that it costs three times more to build than without the regulations, are the insurance companies forced through the threat of litigation to underwrite this deliberate attempt to discourage rebuilding?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 11, 2025 12:53 PM (rHxhM)

203 Fire is on its way to Brentwood.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:53 PM (TRSaI)

204 I would say Biden's greatest accomplishment as president was exposing just how incompetent, corrupt and greedy the Democrat party is.

And stupid. Almost forgot the stupid.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 11, 2025 12:54 PM (CHHv1)

205 Stupid always has it's say.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 11, 2025 12:54 PM (bss/y)

206 I predict nobody has any idea what's going to happen in California. This was no boating accident.

Things never change until they do.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 12:55 PM (LkLld)

207 Only Arnold shoots M240s from the hip.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (TRSaI)

You certainly CAN stand and fire them. You're not going to be very accurate with it, but you can.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:55 PM (lH8E4)

208 At least James Woods home was spared....

Posted by: It's me donna at January 11, 2025 12:56 PM (VE6XX)

209 Ok, not to be pedantic, but SAWs don't need mounts.
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A true moron you are. Being only marginally informed about military weapons, the M240 was the first thing that came to mind. I have now learned my one new thing for the day.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:37 PM (rtSlS)

Heh. I carried one for a couple years, I might as well get something out of that experience.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:48 PM (lH8E4)

SAWs came too late for me. But, damn, that's got to be one of the best weapons ever introduced into an infantry squad.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:56 PM (g8Ew8)

210 I take up more space than I used to. We're gonna need a bigger foxhole.
Posted by: BurtTC

I have a backhoe.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 12:56 PM (rtSlS)

211 Not a DeSantis fan but 'girlie boots' is a step too far.
No comment about Musk's boots?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:56 PM (TRSaI)

212 Curtis LeMay? Hold my beer.
Posted by: Karen Bass

You gonna burn 'em back to the stone age?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 12:57 PM (L/fGl)

213 Please bring your garbage and recycling containers in from the curb after they are emptied by the City and to prevent them being lost in the recent fires.
Thank you.

Posted by: City Of Los Angeles Solid Waste Division at January 11, 2025 12:58 PM (R/m4+)

214 Fire is on its way to Brentwood.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 12:53 PM (TRSaI)

Oh no.

Anyway.....

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:58 PM (g8Ew8)

215 There are policies in place that would have mitigated the destruction caused by wildfires. Nobody wants to enforce them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 12:11 PM

That is the story of probably 75% of the problems in this country. There have been laws in place for illegal immigration for decades. Deliberately not enforced. Laws in place for all crime in big cities. Deliberately not enforced.

In addition, there has been funding in place for pretty much everything the left has been complaining about for decades - education, infrastructure, etc. -- but almost all of it is either not spent correctly or is taken by corrupt politicians.

Corruption, lack of will of good people in positions of power to do the right thing and lots of will of bad people in positions of power to be corrupt are the problems. Not to mention the majority of the populace which does not have the will or the desire to hold anyone accountable.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 12:58 PM (P5BPp)

216 It’s a bitch when reality comes knocking on a woke state’s door.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 11, 2025 12:59 PM (17s+e)

217 Old and busted: Things can't get any worse.

New and cool: HOLY SHIT!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 01:00 PM (L/fGl)

218 Are OJ's houses safe?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:00 PM (YeGMU)

219 stupidity continues as long as there is no cost. Eventually the bill comes due

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 01:00 PM (D7oie)

220 Among the stolen items:

— three Humvees
— eight machine gun vehicle mounts;

Is there video of the Capitol Police holding the gates open for them to drive away?

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2025 01:01 PM (33Cgj)

221 As has been noted time and again, Florida swung from a swing state to as solid red as any. That girlie boots man, Ron DeSanctimonious had as much to do with that as anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:12 PM

Didn't they also clean up the voting process in Florida to eliminate the corruption and try to guarantee a clean vote? That's the opposite of what happened in California where they just enshrined voter fraud into their voting process (no identification required).

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 01:01 PM (P5BPp)

222 The point of government is to take as much money from the taxpayers as possible, anything else it does is incidental.

So you get a high speed train to nowhere...and no fire prevention. It makes sense when you understand why it works out like that

Posted by: 18-1 at January 11, 2025 01:01 PM (t0Rmr)

223 Reality can be a stone cold mutha fucka.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:02 PM (YeGMU)

224 Faults along the Los Angeles power grid alarmingly soared in the same areas where major wildfires raged this week, sparking a new theory that they may have caused the devastating crisis.

Bob Marshall, the chief executive of Whisker Labs, a company that monitors electrical activity, told Fox News that the firm saw spikes in faults in the hours before the Eaton, Palisades and Hurst Fires.

Marshall said data shows the power was not immediately shut off after the faults surged, and may have been caused by 'tree limbs touching wires or wires blowing in the wind and touching.'

'That creates a spark in a fault, and we detect all of those things,' Marshall said. Faulty electrical equipment, a sudden surge in electrical demand or earthquake tremors are also possible causes of the surges.

In the worst-hit Pacific Palisades area, there were 63 faults in the two-to-three hours before it ignited, with 18 coming in the hour before it started Tuesday.

The Eaton Fire, near Altadena, saw 317 grid faults in the hours before ignition, Marshall said, and the Hurst Fire saw around 230 faults. On a typical day, he said the company registers very few.

Source: Daily Mail

Posted by: one hour sober at January 11, 2025 01:02 PM (Y1sOo)

225 On the bright side, post apocalypse shows are popular and Hollywood has a hell of a set.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 01:04 PM (L/fGl)

226
In all the horror of the fire and destruction, Gavin Newsom has found time to sit with the bro-show, Pod Save America. I've been listening for about 5 minutes and the conversation is all about Trump's "politicization" of the fire and Newsom's brilliant leadership leading up to it and how it would all be worse if it weren't for his brilliance.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 11, 2025 01:04 PM (lCaJd)

227 Palisades fire is headed to the San Fernando Valley. That is wine country?
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 12:51 PM (YeGMU)

Yes. That is where the ultra- wealthy have their wineries and boutique horse stables.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 01:04 PM (D7oie)

228 explain to me why my little old-fashioned, horsey-farm niche of SE PA has underground power lines and LA does not?!?!

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 11, 2025 01:05 PM (JXo/4)

229
As if anything can't get worse, now burned out residents of L.A. have to confront Meghan and Harry who have shown up to console them.

Posted by: Auspex at January 11, 2025 01:05 PM (j4U/Z)

230 151 AOP, the other cheap generic weedkiller is 2-4-D, which acts as you say.

Posted by: whig's phone at January 11, 2025 01:05 PM (ctrM5)

231 You need a permit to replace your hot water heaters in Cali. A coming inspector went to my neighbors house saw a new water heaters and asked if he had permit for it. My neighbor laughed so hard the inspector walked away.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 11, 2025 01:05 PM (17s+e)

232 > So yes, I'd put Mexican cartels at the top of the list of suspects responsible for a break-in at an Army Reserve Center.

>>Couple cartel adjacent homies who are in the Reserves wouldn't be farfetched either. Seeing as we're talking about the state of California... cartel central and they don't ask no questions about your affiliations.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Right.

Hell, there are "cartel adjacent" politicians planted in some of California's local governments.

Posted by: Just reporting at January 11, 2025 01:05 PM (tdeL5)

233 They are going to blame it on the power company again. How many times can they go bankrupt before there is no electricity left?

Posted by: fd at January 11, 2025 01:05 PM (vFG9F)

234 SAWs came too late for me. But, damn, that's got to be one of the best weapons ever introduced into an infantry squad.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:56 PM (g8Ew

It had its pluses, but also its minuses. They jammed easily, were very rickety on the bipods, and you had to keep them clean (yeah, like most weapons, but even moreso) or they were going to just stop working.

That being said, the ammo being light, the weapon itself being relatively light, they absolutely WERE the best of both worlds, when it came to having an auto at the squad level.

Everyone loves the M60, but let's be honest, humping that thing is a massive pain, and unless you really set it up with time and effort, it was going to be very inaccurate. The SAW, you could simply lay down where you were, flip the bipod, and go to town.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 01:06 PM (lH8E4)

235 And then of course, there was this fella named Don Trump. He did some things, in the realm of swinging voters.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 12:13 PM

Sure, President Trump did. But did the Republican Party overall? No. I think I counted 5 states where the Presidential vote was for Trump but the Senator vote in those states were for Democrats.

People voted for President Trump, but did they vote for MAGA, conservatism? Not sure about that.

Granted, maybe the GOP Senate candidates in those states were not MAGA/conservative enough. I guess we'll find out in 2026 and 2028 if this is the beginning of a movement/trend or just a one-off of voting for President Trump.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 01:06 PM (P5BPp)

236 DEI, CRT, ESG, transgender/gender BS, "climate change", environmentalism, "toxic masculinity", support of illegal aliens, you name it. There is no reasoning the woke out of their belief system.

I don't think you understand what DEI,CRT,ESG, Trans, Climate Change™ has to offer to those who support it.

Evaluate the cui bono of it: talent-less, stupid, lazy, unmarketable, mentally unstable losers who only come equipped with a huge sense of entitlement.

Lets say that you are someone who is utterly worthless and you want a corner office and high compensation package. Simply chop off your dick, color your hair something unnatural and blame all of your personal failures on something amorphous and vague like "patriarchy" or "climate change".

Get other losers to agree, pay off managers with bonuses over meeting DEI goals rather than sales or production gains and you have an entire industry that can abandon hard work, creativity, responsibility and valor.

Its easier to tat-up and put on a dress and call yourself "brave" than it is to actually risk your life doing something truly brave.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at January 11, 2025 01:06 PM (rHxhM)

237 > Faults along the Los Angeles power grid alarmingly soared in the same areas where major wildfires raged this week, sparking a new theory that they may have caused the devastating crisis.
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There was video of power lines sparking when trees or tree branches were bouncing into/off of them in the high winds the other day. A lot of sparking. But did not see fire as a result, in that video.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 01:07 PM (Q4IgG)

238 Fwiw, look for mudslides going forward in LA as the vegetation binding it together is now burnt to a crisp. Usually happens after fire events in that area

Posted by: whig's phone at January 11, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)

239 Nancy Pelosi about to lose her winery?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 01:08 PM (ENyf3)

240
Palisades fire is headed to the San Fernando Valley. That is wine country?
Posted by: Boss Moss

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No, nowhere near.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 11, 2025 01:08 PM (lCaJd)

241 Didn't they also clean up the voting process in Florida to eliminate the corruption and try to guarantee a clean vote? That's the opposite of what happened in California where they just enshrined voter fraud into their voting process (no identification required).
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 01:01 PM (P5BPp)

Maybe we can get Jimmy Carter to go into Cali and monitor their elections...

Oh.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 01:09 PM (lH8E4)

242
This is true. Tens of millions of people in this country will die miserable and stupid.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (g8Ew

And spend eternity in hell. There's a way out of that, but they refuse to believe in Him.

Posted by: Moki at January 11, 2025 01:10 PM (wLjpr)

243 Is Brownie available?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:10 PM (YeGMU)

244 Where is Gov. Moonbeam?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 11, 2025 01:11 PM (ENyf3)

245 Granted, maybe the GOP Senate candidates in those states were not MAGA/conservative enough. I guess we'll find out in 2026 and 2028 if this is the beginning of a movement/trend or just a one-off of voting for President Trump.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 01:06 PM (P5BPp)

Here in AZ, Kari Lake lost her second straight race. Some of that's on her, for reasons I can't explain she obviously rubs some people who might otherwise vote for a Republican the wrong way. But I also think the corruption in Maricopa County is getting worse, not better, and frankly, there are still too many McCainiacs in this state.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 01:11 PM (lH8E4)

246 Before the FL electoral reforms: There is no fraud in FL's votes...this is a proven fact

After FL's electoral reforms: These poor undocumented immigrants DeSantis is arresting didn't even know it was illegal to vote...and it shouldn't be. Ron DeSantis is rayciss!

Posted by: The FNM at January 11, 2025 01:12 PM (t0Rmr)

247 Ring up the Evergreen 747 Supertankers. We've got some fires to put out!

Posted by: CalFire at January 11, 2025 01:12 PM (rUvIq)

248 explain to me why my little old-fashioned, horsey-farm niche of SE PA has underground power lines and LA does not?!?!
Posted by: Black Orchid

SWAG*..... Power lines suspended on towers are more earthquake-resilient than power lines buried underground?

* - scientific wild-assed guess

Posted by: mikeski at January 11, 2025 01:12 PM (DgGvY)

249 In all the horror of the fire and destruction, Gavin Newsom has found time to sit with the bro-show, Pod Save America. I've been listening for about 5 minutes and the conversation is all about Trump's "politicization" of the fire and Newsom's brilliant leadership leading up to it and how it would all be worse if it weren't for his brilliance.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Nero Newsome thinks he is destined to lead the Democrats out of the wilderness. 2028 is his for the taking.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Ashli at January 11, 2025 01:13 PM (rtSlS)

250 But I also think the corruption in Maricopa County is getting worse

I remember in 2020 where the lunatic sheriff of Maricopa took the ballots into a secured building and threatened to murder anyone that showed up to observe the ballot counting.

Nothing says "free and fair" like doing the counting in secret and threatening to murder observers...

Posted by: The FNM at January 11, 2025 01:13 PM (t0Rmr)

251
Yes. That is where the ultra- wealthy have their wineries and boutique horse stables.
Posted by: Kindltot
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It takes time to move horses. They should have been moved days ago.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 01:13 PM (TRSaI)

252 So, they spent over 30 years on this high-speed rail project, but haven't laid an inch of rail yet? And which nobody wanted in the first place? These guys are grifting GOATs. Pure genius.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (XMwZJ)

253 Underground powerlines cost more to service then above ground ones.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (t0Rmr)

254 Palisades fire is headed to the San Fernando Valley. That is wine country?

Posted by: Boss Moss

It used to be porn country, but that's yet another industry that's relocated. I think it's all work from home now, anyway.

BTW, I think that's also where Nightwatch kives, but SFV is a big area and that doesn't mean he's in any sort of danger yet.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (4DY5T)

255 I'm dispirited by various comments along the lines of "Who the hell cares about CA? I don't live there" . See you all on another thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (VNOTt)

256 I bet all of their horses have long faces

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (YeGMU)

257 > Ring up the Evergreen 747 Supertankers. We've got some fires to put out!
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One of the aerial tankers, a seaplane IIRC, from Canada was hit by someone's drone and was forced to retire from the firefighting efforts until it could be repaired.

Punched a big hole in the wing.

People be stupid.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (Q4IgG)

258 Podcaster Peggy Hall alleges that the fires are not about incompetence; indeed, she claims that is a false narrative intended to distract from the truth of the fire as an entirely unnatural and directed microwave-driven attack to decimate homes in preparation for globalist 15-minute cities.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 11, 2025 01:15 PM (ZlOcj)

259 Nikola Tesla dies, and the ONLY person allowed access to his safe—the one containing all his most secret inventions—is John G. Trump, a brilliant MIT scientist and, oh yeah, Donald Trump’s uncle, who conveniently says, “nothing to see here” while the government quietly packs up Tesla’s life’s work

then, in 1958, a Trackdown episode features a conman named Walter Trump selling people a “magic wall” to save them from the end of the world

but WAIT—it gets weirder: back in the 1890s, Ingersoll Lockwood writes about Baron Trump, a kid from “Castle Trump” going on wild adventures with a guide named Don, and then writes The Last President, where chaos breaks out in America after the election of an outsider

fast forward to 1953 and Wernher von Braun—the father of rocket science—publishes a book about humans colonizing Mars led by a guy literally called Elon!!!

and today we’ve got Elon Musk, who runs Tesla (named after Nikola Tesla!) and is obsessed with getting us to Mars and is not only working with Trump but quite literally got him elected and has even visited his magic wall

how is this not the wildest, most ridiculous, too-weird-to-be-real conspiracy of coincidences ever?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 01:15 PM (TRSaI)

260 The usual suspects voted against the Laken Riley Act.

https://is.gd/Y1l1XI

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at January 11, 2025 01:16 PM (L/fGl)

261 228 Black Orchid,
Doing any project in CA is hard due to regulations. Topography, soils, and tectonic activity along with CA power companies listlessness due to government basically running it now, precludes considering it. Underground power installs are also a stone cold bitch to fix if you have problems as locating line issues is a lot more difficult than a lineman cruising along in a truck.

In a very past life, served in a USAF Civil Engineering unit and saw the good and bad of buried power cables as USAF does that on airbases for resiliency from battle damage (Cold War era) and safety reasons.

Posted by: whig's phone at January 11, 2025 01:16 PM (ctrM5)

262 Instanced the first half of Zuck on Rogan. He’s either been very well coached or he genuinely thinks censoring people is and was a bad idea. It’s hard to maintain a lie like that for a 2 hour podcast. That’s the cool thing about these long formats. The real person comes out. Unlike the 2 minute segments on Fox or CNN where it’s just bumper sticker talking points repeated 4 times with no in depth discussion or push back.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 11, 2025 01:16 PM (82z/0)

263
People voted for President Trump, but did they vote for MAGA, conservatism? Not sure about that.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton

=================

They didn't. AOC pondered that very issue. Why did New Yorkers split their votes between Ds at the local level and Trump in the presidential? It happened to an extent in her district.

Some of the anecdotal data don't look good for Republicans. It was all about personality. "He seems authentic, like you." "You both seem like outsiders." blah-blah
Republicans better not blow it over the next 4 years.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 11, 2025 01:18 PM (lCaJd)

264 DEI, CRT, ESG, transgender/gender BS, "climate change", environmentalism, "toxic masculinity", support of illegal aliens, you name it. There is no reasoning the woke out of their belief system. Especially when the last 2-3 generations were never taught how to reason in school / college / university.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 12:46 PM (P5BPp)

This is true. Tens of millions of people in this country will die miserable and stupid.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 11, 2025 12:50 PM (g8Ew

I find that acceptable.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 11, 2025 01:18 PM (VwHCD)

265 Newsom is psychotic. A video from a few years ago of Adam Carolla pressing him on his failures; Newsom is completely incapable of responding, as if he simply cannot comprehend the questions. He cannot internalize the idea that he is wrong about anything.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 11, 2025 01:19 PM (ZlOcj)

266 The usual suspects voted against the Laken Riley Act.
You're telling me that the provisions of this act (i.e., simply retaining an illegal immigrant when they commit theft) are not already law?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 11, 2025 01:19 PM (XMwZJ)

267 Palisades fire is headed to the San Fernando Valley. That is wine country?
Posted by: Boss Moss
No, nowhere near.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

That is wine mom country.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 11, 2025 01:20 PM (KAi1n)

268 There’s a flight from the LA area to the Bat a year every 15 mins. There are 4 major airloets in the LA area and 3 airports in the Bay Area. The flight is an hour long. Add another hour for security. So 2 hours once you’re at the airport.

Who in their right mind sees that option and thinks, nah I’ll take a 5 hour train ride instead?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 11, 2025 01:20 PM (82z/0)

269 Republicans better not blow it over the next 4 years.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 11, 2025 01:18 PM (lCaJd)

The Republican Party called, and said blowing it is what they do best.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 01:22 PM (lH8E4)

270 *That is wine mom country.*

I hear you, sister.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at January 11, 2025 01:23 PM (dg+HA)

271 Newsom is psychotic. A video from a few years ago of Adam Carolla pressing him on his failures; Newsom is completely incapable of responding, as if he simply cannot comprehend the questions. He cannot internalize the idea that he is wrong about anything.

Posted by: Ordinary American

This is what one-party rule and a fully subservient media gets you.

The second part is key. I actually remember the time when LA media stopped framing their stories from two sides and just decided to parrot everything coming from the dems as gospel. That was maybe 15 years ago.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at January 11, 2025 01:23 PM (4DY5T)

272 Joe Rogan inter viewed Zuckerberg. He gets some big interviews.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:24 PM (YeGMU)

273 Newsom is psychotic. A video from a few years ago of Adam Carolla pressing him on his failures; Newsom is completely incapable of responding, as if he simply cannot comprehend the questions. He cannot internalize the idea that he is wrong about anything.
Posted by: Ordinary American at January 11, 2025 01:19 PM (ZlOcj)

Not psychotic, and not even psychopathic. He's as strongly on the sociopath/narcissist spectrum as anybody in politics.

Granted, if Newscum is rated 1a, damn near everyone else is 1b.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 01:24 PM (lH8E4)

274 263 Blonde Morticia, I think you may have this wrong; people voted for Trump precisely because he's authentic MAGA, while many down-ballot GOPers are not. May as well vote for the authentic demotard. I don't support that sort of argument (just about every R is better than any D), but that may be their reasoning.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 11, 2025 01:25 PM (XMwZJ)

275 262 Instanced the first half of Zuck on Rogan. He’s either been very well coached or he genuinely thinks ...
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In 2020 he put in $400,000,000 toward Biden's election.

He genuinely thinks he doesn't want to go to jail, be sued or lose his cash cow. He donated a million dollars toward Trump's inauguration.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 01:25 PM (TRSaI)

276 If Bass and Newsom were regional heads in China and did their jobs this badly the Chinese government would put a bullet in each of their heads and send their families a bill for the bullet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 11, 2025 01:25 PM (RLc6v)

277 Smell the Glove, in many ways the Chinese Communist way of doing things is vastly superior to ours.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at January 11, 2025 01:27 PM (XMwZJ)

278 The second part is key. I actually remember the time when LA media stopped framing their stories from two sides and just decided to parrot everything coming from the dems as gospel. That was maybe 15 years ago.

I remember in the 2010s the FNM started on a kick that covering both sides was morally wrong because the right/conservatives lied about literally everything so if you covered both sides' claims you were just helping the right lie.

Their evidence that the right lies? Well the leftwing fact checkers say they do. So Trump claiming he has the best economy ever? LIES! even if by many metrics that was true. Biden claim there was no inflation, there was inflation and it was Trump's fault AND there is inflation but it is a sign that Biden fixed the economy? All true...at the same time!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 11, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)

279 250, Any state using cheat by mail as the primary voting system will have dysfunctional voting. Other nations do not allow vote by mail as the general voting method because of it.

In addition, AZ has a large elderly population and Trump barely won baby boomers by something like 50-49. Elderly voters for a number of reasons have voter preferences of their youth harden as they get older. Probably sunk cost fallacy. Trump won the Gen X generation handily and made inroads in millennials and Gen Z enough to win the pop vote overall despite the cheat. Trump gained something like 3 million vites or so from 2020 and about 15 million plus from 2016.

Posted by: whig's phone at January 11, 2025 01:28 PM (ctrM5)

280 > "Podcaster Peggy Hall alleges that the fires are not about incompetence; indeed, she claims that is a false narrative intended to distract from the truth of the fire as an entirely unnatural and directed microwave-driven attack to decimate homes in preparation for globalist 15-minute cities."

The entire situation in California is so utterly bizarre that I cannot automatically rule out any plausible explanation or theory at this point that accounts for it.

In one sense it's a matter of simple logic.

You don’t live and play in a desert environment tinderbox that has ANNUAL fires, and gouge out your disaster infrastructure, prohibit the clearing of underbrush, and then shut off your water supply. That's not merely incompetence. It’s sabotage.

It also won't surprise me if some insurance CEOs knew this disaster was coming, thus the timely home and business insurance policy cancellations just a few months ago.

Whatever the truth is, the disclosures will keep coming.

Posted by: Just reporting at January 11, 2025 01:28 PM (tdeL5)

281 >>Sure, President Trump did. But did the Republican Party overall? No. I think I counted 5 states where the Presidential vote was for Trump but the Senator vote in those states were for Democrats.

Does that seem normal? Someone walks into the voting booth and pulls the lever for Trump but then also pulls the lever for Ruben Gallego?

Trump got nearly 200,000 more votes in Arizona than his ideological soulmate Kari Lake. That makes exactly zero sense.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 01:29 PM (LkLld)

282 GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 01:30 PM (fwDg9)

283 "He's as strongly on the sociopath/narcissist spectrum as anybody in politics."

Biden has been doing it for 50 years. FFS, he's still doing it right now.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 11, 2025 01:31 PM (Gqoy+)

284 Santa Anna winds are picking up.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:32 PM (YeGMU)

285 Machine gun mounts are sold separately? I would have thought it would have been added at the point of manufacture or be a more impromptu thing.

So three humvees and 8 machine gun mounts. I guess they will have spares.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 11, 2025 01:33 PM (bss/y)

286 Biden has been doing it for 50 years. FFS, he's still doing it right now.

Posted by: Ignoramus

I've noticed the similarities. Just waiting for our first, "my word as a Newsom."

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at January 11, 2025 01:33 PM (4DY5T)

287 284 Santa Anna winds are picking up.
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 11, 2025 01:32 PM (YeGMU)

"Santa Anna turned scarlet
"Play degüello!" he roared
"I will show them no quarter
Everyone will be put to the sword!""
-M Robbins

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 11, 2025 01:35 PM (bss/y)

288 >>>Elderly voters for a number of reasons have voter preferences of their youth harden as they get older. Probably sunk cost fallacy.
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That's interesting. I don't know any male boomers that voted for Biden.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 01:36 PM (TRSaI)

289 Is it just me or do other people hear Brittney Spears singing Hit Me Baby, One More Time and start thinking

Let me find a nine iron and I'll be right with you!

Or Boy George singing Do You Really Want to Hurt Me
Yes! Where is that nine iron?

Or Bruce Springsteen drowning about Oh I'm On Fire
I wish, asshole.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 11, 2025 01:36 PM (4XwPj)

290 That is wine mom country.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 11, 2025 01:20 PM (KAi1n)

Well done !

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at January 11, 2025 01:37 PM (WF/xn)

291 Hmm. Some old song lyrics just came to mind:

I am the god of hellfire! And I bring you

Fire, I'll take you to burn
Fire, I'll take you to learn
I'll see you burn

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2025 01:37 PM (XeU6L)

292 one hour sober at January 11, 2025 01:02 PM

Our internet was out in the San Joaquin Valley for about 18 hours not too long from when the fires started. Not saying that there's a connection, but the phone message we got included a special link to report "dangerous wires", and there was no wind or other cause for wires to be acting unusually that I knew about.

Posted by: KT at January 11, 2025 01:37 PM (xekrU)

293 Trump got nearly 200,000 more votes in Arizona than his ideological soulmate Kari Lake. That makes exactly zero sense.

Posted by: JackStraw
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Cheat by mail and prolonged counting of actual ballots allow for a lot of corruption including vote insertion after the fact and destruction of ballots in pro GOP areas where the poll working counters were Dems. Plus, I genuinely think that Lake turns off some people, especially elderly women as too hard edged.

Gallego though is the type that is most likely involved in corruption and that may make that evident in future years. He strikes me as a SW version of Menendez.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 01:38 PM (ctrM5)

294
then, in 1958, a Trackdown episode features a conman named Walter Trump selling people a “magic wall” to save them from the end of the world

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0732741

You can guess what the comments are like.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2025 01:38 PM (63Dwl)

295

Red Flag Warning: Orange County Inland
KTLA 5

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 01:38 PM (TRSaI)

296 I'm dispirited by various comments along the lines of "Who the hell cares about CA? I don't live there" . See you all on another thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (VNOTt)

I think it is learned helplessness. How do you fix what you have been beaten for caring about for most of your life? The goal is to create helplessness and apathy, and unfortunately that is what goes on when disaster strikes, not just while TPTB are actively stealing and mismanaging what they were given to care for.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 11, 2025 01:39 PM (D7oie)

297 Hmm. Some old song lyrics just came to mind:*

*Must be over 29 to recall.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2025 01:39 PM (XeU6L)

298 Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 11, 2025 01:36 PM (4XwPj)

Baby one more time makes me think of this:

https://tinyurl.com/ycy9a7da

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 11, 2025 01:42 PM (bss/y)

299 Our internet was out in the San Joaquin Valley for about 18 hours not too long from when the fires started. Not saying that there's a connection, but the phone message we got included a special link to report "dangerous wires", and there was no wind or other cause for wires to be acting unusually that I knew about.
Posted by: KT

Internet cables are hung from the same poles that power lines are in many locations and under odd conditions the power lines and those internet copper cables can get intertwined leading to some bad events. I think that is what they were getting at. For that reason and emp resistance/capacity, I think the US should move to fiber optic cables instead of the older copper based coax, etc. cable.

Reason they don't is initial cost to retrofit existing networks but the reward is worth it in resistance to weather, emp resistance, maintenance, scarcity in copper supplies, etc. Verizon, for example, basically abandoned their buried copper phone lines and subscribers in order to build out their fiber optic line and invest in wireless. ATT has followed since then where they can make money at retrofitting. Same result to their legacy copper wire subscribers.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 01:44 PM (ctrM5)

300 Trump got nearly 200,000 more votes in Arizona than his ideological soulmate Kari Lake. That makes exactly zero sense.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 01:29 PM (LkLld)

You don't have to overthink it. 200,000 people who like Trump, don't like Kari Lake.

I don't exactly know why, but that's basically it.

It's been said a million times, voters vote for candidates, not policies. Sort of. At least 200,000 of them in AZ did.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 11, 2025 01:44 PM (lH8E4)

301

Arthur Brown Recalls How He'd Set Himself Ablaze While Performing Hit Song 'Fire'

https://t.ly/_endd

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 11, 2025 01:45 PM (63Dwl)

302 Trump should hold a press conference at Riviera Golf Club.

Posted by: Redenzo at January 11, 2025 01:45 PM (V/pbu)

303 >>Cheat by mail and prolonged counting of actual ballots allow for a lot of corruption including vote insertion after the fact and destruction of ballots in pro GOP areas where the poll working counters were Dems. Plus, I genuinely think that Lake turns off some people, especially elderly women as too hard edged.

I find it really hard to believe that Lake turns off the same voters that enthusiastically vote for Trump. There is nobody in recent politics that has a harder edge when he chooses to deploy it than Trump. Trump has raised hard edge to an art form.

Arizona is obviously deeply corrupt when it comes to voting. We saw it brazenly displayed in 2020 when both Trump and Lake lost the state and I think the only reason Trump won it in 2024 is because his lead over Harris was so big and there was no pandemic/mass mail in crap leftists couldn't plausibly make the case Harris won.

There's still a lot of work to do securing our elections on a state by state basis. The only reason for not having 1 day voting and ID is to cheat. Period.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 01:47 PM (LkLld)

304 >>>I think the US should move to fiber optic cables instead of the older copper based coax, etc. cable.
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Starlink

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 01:48 PM (TRSaI)

305 I suspected straight away when Trump wins overwhelming but Republicans lost in other races there still is shenanigans going on.

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 01:48 PM (fwDg9)

306 296 I'm dispirited by various comments along the lines of "Who the hell cares about CA? I don't live there" . See you all on another thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 11, 2025 01:14 PM (VNOTt)

I think it is learned helplessness. How do you fix what you have been beaten for caring about for most of your life? The goal is to create helplessness and apathy, and unfortunately that is what goes on when disaster strikes, not just while TPTB are actively stealing and mismanaging what they were given to care for.
Posted by: Kindltot
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To some extent, people blame groups instead of relevant individuals. California (or NJ for that matter) have long had dysfunctional, corrupt, and effectively evil governance at times and their national representatives like Pelosi (or Menendez) is looked upon by people in saner states as an affront. Back in the Civil Rights era, the same universal blame by Northern and Western states were applied to the South and Southerners. Regions hating on other regions is nothing more than tribalism instead of evaluating people as individuals. Easier to simply blame the whole state and its residents. And so it goes.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 01:49 PM (ctrM5)

307 304 >>>I think the US should move to fiber optic cables instead of the older copper based coax, etc. cable.
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Starlink
Posted by: Braenyard
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Starlink is a niche product for areas that you cannot get good internet but it is more expensive, less capacity, and latency bound than something like ground fiber optic networks.

Have no idea about Starlink satellite resistance to EMP but in a world with places like Iran and North Korea possessing nuclear weapons and missiles, it is something to worry about.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 01:52 PM (ctrM5)

308 Arthur Brown Recalls How He'd Set Himself Ablaze While Performing Hit Song 'Fire'

https://t.ly/_endd

Posted by: Bertram Cabot
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"The single became a transatlantic hit, reaching number one in the UK and Canada and number two in the United States..."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2025 01:53 PM (XeU6L)

309 > Trump got nearly 200,000 more votes in Arizona than his ideological soulmate Kari Lake. That makes exactly zero sense.
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I'd be willing to entertain the notion that the Trump vote harvesting operation, their "cheat," was successful in returning Trump to the White House. But was ineffective at putting local Republicans on top. Because it was designed to put Trump in office, not anyone else.

I said "entertain the notion." Not that I believe it. It's an interesting debate, nothing more. It only offers up a possible, but farfetched possibility that the GOP had a cheat op of their own, but it failed to put local Republicans over the top... for reasons.

But it certainly fits the half-assed approach the GOP has to winning elections.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 11, 2025 01:55 PM (Q4IgG)

310 Trump won the Gen X generation handily and made inroads in millennials and Gen Z enough to win the pop vote overall despite the cheat.

Posted by: whig's phone at January 11, 2025 01:28 PM

Yep.

2024 overall voting demographics:

Men 18-29 years old: (49-4

Trump (7% of overall vote)
Women 18-29 years old: (38-61) Harris (7%)

Men 30-44 years old: (52-45) Trump (11%)
Women 30-44 years old: (41-56) Harris (12%)

Men 45-64 years old: (59-39) Trump (16%)
Women 45-64 years old: (50-49) Trump (19%)

Men 65 and older: (56-43) (12%)
Women 65 years and older: (46-53) Harris (16%)

Women basically offset men in every demographic except for (45-64). Gen-X is (44-59 as of 2024) (Years 1965-1980).

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 01:55 PM (P5BPp)

311 >>Trump should hold a press conference at Riviera Golf Club.

He could always do another one from Trump National in Palos Verdes.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 01:56 PM (LkLld)

312 Arizona is obviously deeply corrupt when it comes to voting. We saw it brazenly displayed in 2020 when both Trump and Lake lost the state and I think the only reason Trump won it in 2024 is because his lead over Harris was so big and there was no pandemic/mass mail in crap leftists couldn't plausibly make the case Harris won.

There's still a lot of work to do securing our elections on a state by state basis. The only reason for not having 1 day voting and ID is to cheat. Period.
Posted by: JackStraw
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AZ cheat for prezzie vote was not needed as Trump had already secured enough EVs elsewhere.

Easy enough if you care (or others care) enough to dig through ballots and voting history files as enough judges have ruled over time that they are public records under MVRA and have no privacy protections for a public act such as voting and voter registration. Mail in balloting is mostly where you see fictitious people that ballot harvesters submit as very real ballots.

Perhaps some reporting violations as well but the weakness to absentee balloting is that there is an actual paper record to be audited post election rather than electronic blips in states with no paper receipts.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 01:56 PM (ctrM5)

313 Gardening thread up!

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at January 11, 2025 02:00 PM (hBG3V)

314 Clyde Shelton,
You see something similar in minority voting. Older minorities still have their overwhelming Dem tendencies, younger ones are looking more at something different.

Generational voting was long known as a thing in political science due to political socialization via family, society, and friend networks. There are always a few defectors in any given generation until there is a realigning period of elections where mass conversion (of the younger voters) swamps the older generation's voting tendencies.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 02:00 PM (ctrM5)

315 88 17 I don't buy the rosy projections of CA swinging to our side. How did Hawaii vote last fall?
Posted by: Eeyore
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Those that would have been red pilled received the red death.

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Hawaii is the most expensive place to live. Been there since 2002, with a 7 year reprieve to Alabama in the middle. And like CA the moment the polls close they declare for the democrats with 0% reporting. We rarely have a republican win anything. And when they do, they are farther left than GOPe. See Linda Lingle.

Posted by: Aloha at January 11, 2025 02:02 PM (ucOy+)

316 >>I'd be willing to entertain the notion that the Trump vote harvesting operation, their "cheat," was successful in returning Trump to the White House. But was ineffective at putting local Republicans on top. Because it was designed to put Trump in office, not anyone else.

I think that's probably accurate. Not because Trump didn't want people like Lake to win, he obviously did. But mission 1 was to make sure he won and the organization wasn't big enough to take care of every election.

Look how hard Democrats pushed to try an overturn the Senate race in PA. It wasn't until Trump's team came in and started threatening lawsuits that they finally backed down.

Democrats have always cheated in elections. It's what they do and I think they've convinced themselves it's not really cheating when they do it. Part of the reason people are showing disdain for California's problems is we are sick of their brazen cheating and rubbing our noses in it. I genuinely feel bad for people who have lost so much in this disaster but at some point people have to realize when you keep allowing corrupt shitheads to steal elections this is inevitable.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 02:03 PM (LkLld)

317 Hawaii is the most expensive place to live. Been there since 2002, with a 7 year reprieve to Alabama in the middle. And like CA the moment the polls close they declare for the democrats with 0% reporting. We rarely have a republican win anything. And when they do, they are farther left than GOPe. See Linda Lingle.
Posted by: Aloha
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Vermont was solidly GOP for over a century until suddenly it was electing people like Bernie Sanders to office but that occurred in urban Vermont areas first because that is where the votes are. Urbanization causes a move to Dem (and liberal) voting and this link has long been known.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 02:07 PM (ctrM5)

318 >>AZ cheat for prezzie vote was not needed as Trump had already secured enough EVs elsewhere.

Exactly. And it was obvious weeks before the election that he was going to win regardless of what the babbling idiots on teevee and the polls said. The entire strategy of the election was to win so big cheating wouldn't be possible and that's exactly what Trump did.

But you will never convince me that the same people who turned out in droves to vote for the guy who said Ted Cruz's dad might have had something to do with the Kennedy assassination couldn't bring themselves to vote for the pretty lady who is much less caustic than Trump but has the exact same platform.

It was stolen and it wasn't the only one.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 02:11 PM (LkLld)

319 Democrats have always cheated in elections. It's what they do and I think they've convinced themselves it's not really cheating when they do it....
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You're correct. It's a bit blasphemous, but I'll paraphrase Goldwater:

"Extremism in the defense of Democrats is no vice."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 11, 2025 02:11 PM (XeU6L)

320 Democrats have always cheated in elections. It's what they do and I think they've convinced themselves it's not really cheating when they do it. Part of the reason people are showing disdain for California's problems is we are sick of their brazen cheating and rubbing our noses in it. I genuinely feel bad for people who have lost so much in this disaster but at some point people have to realize when you keep allowing corrupt shitheads to steal elections this is inevitable.
Posted by: JackStraw

Historically, the GOP did cheat in rural areas after the Civil War. Voting registration and other new laws killed the GOP cheat machine but the Dems, in urban areas kept on cheating because their cheat machine was already built and then they adjusted their cheat to triumph over new laws. Tammany Hall cheated Fiorella LaGuardia out of the mayoral seat in 1929 for example and after Fiorella won in 1933, he had to become a virtual mayoral dictator sidelining the old corrupt offices controlled by Tammany Hall to stay in power.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 02:13 PM (ctrM5)

321 It was stolen and it wasn't the only one.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I agree and I think cheating cost the GOP Senate seats in Mi, Wi, and NV, as well as AZ.

But far too often, losers in those races refuse to challenge those elections for cost and perhaps worrying about future electoral prospects. That is how the cheat becomes routine--everyone knowledgeable about it knows (even Dem operatives) but no one challenges it.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 02:15 PM (ctrM5)

322 >>Tammany Hall cheated Fiorella LaGuardia out of the mayoral seat in 1929 for example and after Fiorella won in 1933, he had to become a virtual mayoral dictator sidelining the old corrupt offices controlled by Tammany Hall to stay in power.

Spending most of my life in the northeast around NYC and Boston I am well aware of the Democrats urban cheat machine. They don't even try to hide it anymore. They openly talk about things like "walking around money" as if it normal.

California is corrupt to the core largely because of the influence of politicians from SF and LA who dominate the system. I wouldn't hire Newsom or Pelosi to be a janitor but because of the California machine they are in positions of power way above their abilities.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2025 02:20 PM (LkLld)

323 Lake turns me off. I think she's plastic - not in the technical sense but in the jargon sense.
However
I would have voted for her and hoped my assessment totally wrong.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at January 11, 2025 02:22 PM (TRSaI)

324 From this far east Kari seems better than what I often do

Posted by: Skip at January 11, 2025 02:29 PM (fwDg9)

325 Gallego though is the type that is most likely involved in corruption and that may make that evident in future years. He strikes me as a SW version of Menendez.
Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 01:38 PM (ctrM5)

Would bet a considerable amount that he can-and will be —honey trapped. He is greasy, dumb and loves the perks of the office. Textbook sting pidgeon—IF the MAGA’s will play the game as it is played against them.

Posted by: Voter theater. at January 11, 2025 02:32 PM (66O4G)

326 I agree and I think cheating cost the GOP Senate seats in Mi, Wi, and NV, as well as AZ.

But far too often, losers in those races refuse to challenge those elections for cost and perhaps worrying about future electoral prospects. That is how the cheat becomes routine--everyone knowledgeable about it knows (even Dem operatives) but no one challenges it.

Posted by: whig at January 11, 2025 02:15 PM

Here in Michigan, I think it was a combination of the cheat and a bad candidate (Mike Rogers). Probably more of the former, as Rogers lost to Elissa Slotkin by only 0.34% (~19,000 votes). A state Trump won by 1.4% (~80,000 votes).

But not only did Michigan in 2022 enshrine election fraud in their elections going forward (mandatory drop boxes for mail-in votes; don't need to show ID just sign an affidavit) they also made it more difficult to challenge voter fraud in the state.

The legacy of Whitmer-Nessell-Benson.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 11, 2025 02:33 PM (P5BPp)

327 The San Fernando Valleys is a vast sea of mid-century residential subdivisions punctuated by shopping malls, ugly apartment buildings and fast food joints. The rich folk live in the hills that rise from the valley floor to Mulholland Boulevard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 11, 2025 03:10 PM (JRe3J)

328
Where is Gov. Moonbeam?
Posted by: Anna Puma

I think that he lives in Oakland. His most recent political office was serving as mayor of that festering shit hole.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 11, 2025 05:25 PM (xG4kz)

329 What's happened to the Saturday Night Joke? I haven't seen it for weeks.

Posted by: Rod Paynter at January 11, 2025 09:39 PM (ZwRq1)

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